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	I got new, fresh meat.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Thursday, February 8th, 2018.
	This is your award-winning Gimbo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1006.
	This is no agenda.
	I blew the fat lady's Cinco de Mayo.
	We're all gonna die!
	As we broadcast live from downtown Austin, Tejas, capital of the Drone Star State, and Chicole Nation, in the Cludio, in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where apparently it's the warmest place in the country, John Cena Black.
	It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill in the morning.
	Silicon Valley, warmest place in the country?
	San Francisco, apparently.
	The San Francisco Bay Area was, like yesterday, was the warmest place in the country.
	Oh, wow.
	Well, congratulations.
	You are...
	Yes, 75 degrees.
	You're ground zero of global warming.
	Yes, of course.
	Hey, John, I screwed up Cinco de Mayo.
	When was this?
	This morning.
	I did it...
	Oh, I was downstairs.
	I did it, but my mic was muted.
	So, just so you know.
	Well, it still went into the ether.
	No, it didn't.
	It didn't get past my microphone.
	It went into your local ether.
	It was heard around the room.
	I don't know, man.
	There's a mouse in the house.
	He heard it.
	It's a bad omen.
	Okay, well, great.
	No, that's not the only thing.
	This was supposed to happen on Friday, but I got a notice last night from the building.
	Updated notification of fire alarm testing.
	Oh, this will happen right during the show then.
	Dear residents, we have updated the fire alarm schedule to complete testing on floors 14 through 38 on Thursday, February 8th.
	We're about in the middle.
	A member of our staff will accompany the inspectors.
	Please note the alarms will be audible in residential apartments.
	You might hear classical music when they are testing the alarms rather than the siren.
	Due to the large-scale nature of this inspection, we are unable to schedule specific times for these inspections.
	Additionally, we do not know the exact time when the inspectors will be entering each unit.
	Now, you have to know, I'm in here all alone.
	I'm in the closet.
	The Clutio.
	Yes, the Clutio.
	And I lock the door because I have no idea, you know, someone could bust in the door and I wouldn't know until they were up upon me and kill me because I got the headphones on.
	So I always lock the door.
	And it's locked again.
	I'm not leaving that unlocked.
	Um...
	Please keep in mind.
	So somebody, some joke, you shouldn't have even said anything about this.
	This was a huge mistake.
	No, no, no.
	Because some joker out there is going to call the police with one of those scam, need the SWAT team.
	SWAT me.
	SWAT you.
	Well, you have to kind of know my address.
	He's locked inside the closet.
	Please keep in mind, the fire alarms are very loud when sounded.
	If you work from home, we suggest vacating your apartment during the day when your floor is scheduled.
	Should you wish to remain in your apartment, we have earplugs available in the leasing office for your convenience.
	Well, you have the headphones on so you shouldn't be able to hear them.
	Right.
	But it probably will affect the show.
	The likelihood, well, even though you were such a blue Sanco de Mayo, nailed it.
	Not nailed it.
	It's possible.
	There you go.
	Hey!
	Called it.
	You called what?
	Called it.
	Super Bowl, called it.
	Oh yeah, we nailed the Super Bowl.
	Now, I had the score completely wrong.
	Your score was all screwed up.
	However, the Illuminati knew about my score.
	That's why they put a little 33, 41-33.
	They're like, okay, Curry, just so you know, you're not always right.
	Well, I think there was a mathematical thing that worked out when I gave my score, which was pretty close to this one.
	But I think the rationale is the one I chose, which is you're paying these quarterbacks too much money.
	These guys are cheap.
	Let's let this guy win.
	Even though he was obviously not as slouch, which I think was another thing.
	This game had no defense whatsoever.
	It was unbelievable.
	It was a good game.
	I thought it was a really compelling game.
	I liked it a lot.
	I thought Justin Timberlake was, you know, he had his Illuminati stuff going on.
	He had his triangles flipping around and fire and everything.
	It's good.
	It's good, good, good.
	Yeah.
	I didn't see it.
	Nice to see that we are now moving America the Beautiful a little more towards our national anthem.
	I know.
	I saw that, too.
	Everyone noticed it.
	We all know Agenda.
	All the producers noticed this.
	Like, yeah, this is what we'll do.
	Yeah.
	Let's do this first and see what happens, and then we'll play the other song.
	America the Beautiful has never been played at the beginning of things like this, and then all the military stuff.
	I mean, come on.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Ad-wise, was it just my perception, or is it the first time I've seen competing advertisers in the same category advertise on the Super Bowl?
	We had Tide, which I thought those were pretty funny, versus Persil.
	We had Amazon Fire versus YouTube.
	I mean, there was a couple of these.
	Well, the whole YouTube thing was annoying.
	But is that a first?
	I don't think so.
	I think it's been done.
	I see that a lot on television.
	But that to me means there was less revenue because they were not apparently, you know, the advertisers were not buying category exclusivity.
	I'm guessing you're probably right.
	I mean, this ad's cost $5 million.
	Yeah.
	I was not impressed.
	I think a lot of them, too many of them had social messages, social justice warrior messages, which really annoyed me.
	Yeah, Ram with Martin Luther King.
	Did they get flack for that yet?
	Because I'm sure they will.
	No, they already did.
	It's already over.
	Yeah, of course.
	They got pounded.
	Pounded!
	Pounded or...
	Butt slammed!
	Yes.
	Butt slammed.
	The best reporting I found on the game was actually after the game, speaking of social justice warriors, Gisela Bündchen, who was Tom Brady's wife, he's the quarterback for Patriots.
	Or as Americans call her, Giselle Bündchen.
	Bündchen, yeah.
	Gisela Bündchen.
	They have two sons and a daughter.
	And they were really, really sad and were crying that Daddy had lost because this has never happened.
	And so this happened three times.
	Yes, and so the reporting, it was that Gisela Bündchen was talking to the kids and she said, just this time, Daddy won five times.
	The Eagles never won before.
	Their whole life they've never won a Super Bowl.
	You have to let someone else win sometimes.
	A message for the kids.
	Right on, Gisela.
	That's how you do it.
	That woman is so photogenic.
	And she's telegenic, too.
	She's very attractive.
	Very attractive, yes.
	But, you know, is that the message you want to send?
	No.
	She's just trying to quiet the kids down.
	They obviously built the kids up to be, you know, the fan of the team and the whole thing.
	And they don't have the emotional stability to do it.
	And so the kids probably fell apart.
	I think it's the end of the world and daddy's not going to come home.
	Because you're going to have to kill him for losing, and they're all freaked out, and she had to come up with something.
	Well, it reminded me of this, of course.
	Oh, there's no winning.
	We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot.
	Now everyone hug and share a secret.
	Here is the Super Bowl in eight seconds.
	Oh, wait, that's the wrong one.
	Close enough.
	That was the Super Bowl in two seconds.
	There you go.
	That's all you really need to know.
	What was disheartening, though?
	Just disheartening is Philadelphia tearing their city apart.
	What is wrong?
	You're like a kid who's found a box or got stuck in a candy store.
	I'm not sure what it is.
	But you're naive about some of this stuff.
	Because you don't really, until you started doing this show, really weren't paying much attention because you didn't care and I don't blame you.
	But this is funny because you make it sound as though this is some new thing.
	No, it's not new.
	Not at all new.
	Every time this happens, I say it's disheartening.
	What was different this time, I don't know if you saw the CCTV video footage that was released of this mob of kids just destroying a convenience store.
	A couple of things that were really interesting.
	First of all, just watching that happen, and it's like an army of ants.
	It's also a little bit the angle, but it looks like all of them had stunted growth and were just stocky.
	Because of the angle.
	Probably the angle, but you're like, and they're just grabbing stuff.
	They're shopping.
	This was beyond the crazy turning stuff over.
	They went shopping.
	And new in this is every five seconds, someone stands in the middle of this mayhem where people are ripping down shelves, they're stuffing their jackets full, they're grabbing boxes full of stuff, and they'll hold up their phone and they'll turn 360 degrees like, yo, look, I'm in the middle of the mayhem, yo, brother, look at this shit!
	It's off the hook!
	Yeah, that is new.
	That, of course, is new because of the nature of selfies.
	And I'm thinking that it has something to do with kids growing up watching incessant news coverage of, I'm out here and this is really pandemonium, what's going on here?
	Everyone wants to be a newscaster.
	Somehow this has become the model.
	Yeah, the whole thing, yeah.
	And then they all get arrested.
	So despite your...
	Because they always post it, you know?
	Yes!
	Let's post the evidence.
	That'll be great.
	A bunch of dummies.
	Yeah, yeah, that's true.
	But no, I don't think this is something new.
	Well, I found the game to be...
	The last couple of games, last year's game was actually even more interesting because the...
	Patriots were down 28-3 right away, and they had to somehow claw back into the game and tie it, so they went into overtime where the Patriots won.
	And that was probably one of the most interesting games ever, because I've never seen anybody fold like the Atlanta team.
	So this year...
	And I know anybody who likes football or watches football knows that with one minute left or 55 seconds left with Tom Brady stuck back on the five-yard line of the other team, you were still worried.
	And for all the crap our version of football gets...
	I do like the fact that you can have a Hail Mary at the end of the game, and if someone had caught it somehow in the end zone and had plopped down and held on to it, they would have won.
	No, they would have tied.
	Oh, tied.
	Oh, okay.
	First of all, they had to do that first, and then they had to get a two-point conversion.
	Then they would have tied.
	Then it would have gone to overtime, and they were seeing a replay of last year.
	But I still like the fact that our scoring works that way.
	It makes it interesting.
	Yeah, well, if you notice, we'd watch Family Feud or any of these game shows.
	The Americans set it up.
	Or the NASCAR races.
	If NASCAR was an honest race, there'd be one guy five laps ahead of everybody.
	But no, they got it so the cars are all detuned, so they all have pretty much the same horsepower.
	They pretty much have the same chassis.
	And if some guy gets too far behind, like he's two or three laps behind, they bonus him after a pit stop.
	He's up a couple laps, and now he's back on the...
	I mean, they do all these little things to keep the race tight to the very end.
	And if you watch Family Feud, they have some family go way ahead and there's two minutes left in the show and it's 3,000 to nothing.
	There's still one shot at the end where the other family can maybe win.
	Yeah, the answer is television.
	That's the American way, yeah.
	It's television.
	That's the answer.
	That's how we've always rolled with it.
	But the game of football itself lends itself to that.
	American football lends itself to...
	Well, so does soccer because it's...
	Nil, nil, usually, until the very end.
	It's mostly just stalling until the last basketball.
	I used to always say, if you want to watch a basketball game, just watch the last two minutes and you're going to get the whole game.
	You won't get to see all the crazy plays and stuff that go on in between.
	But you get to see what happens until it counts as the last two minutes.
	And it's because we need to get the ads in on the right time.
	I mean, it's obvious why we constructed these games that way.
	Yeah.
	It's just a stall, everybody.
	Because the game could only be two minutes.
	But you get the little fatigue, so they're tired at the end.
	That's always plus.
	Makes it more interesting.
	Yeah.
	And I realize that they really only play 30 minutes of game time.
	Right?
	No, I think it's an hour.
	An hour, I'm sorry.
	Each half is only 30 minutes.
	Yeah, because I heard the coach say, oh, we've got 30 minutes to play.
	I'm like, yeah, it's going to take three hours.
	Oh, yeah, because of all the timeouts and the stops and all that stuff.
	Yeah, and the commercial timeouts are the ones that bother me.
	That's why I won't go to a game anymore.
	I won't go to a live game.
	Because if you're at the stadium, besides the regular timeouts, after every kickoff and punt, they have a commercial timeout for the television.
	Yeah.
	And so everybody's standing around, just doing nothing, kicking the turf, and then some guy says, okay, the TV's Timeouts are okay, now we can get back to the game, and then they all start playing again.
	It's extremely boring.
	Now, just to wrap this up, because we always do believe it's rigged.
	To me, I think the refs, although I wanted the Eagles to win, I think there were two calls at least where they made a bad call.
	I would like to know what you thought these two calls were.
	When he caught it in the end zone, but his foot was really over the line before he...
	No, it wasn't.
	Okay.
	No, I'm not going to argue.
	I'm going to tell you what you were susceptible to.
	The two announcers on that show are two of the worst.
	I was not susceptible to that, but I know your point.
	Go ahead.
	Collinsworth and the other guy...
	Who's been doing Monday Night Football forever and was responsible.
	What's his other guy's name?
	Somebody in the chat room knows.
	Chat room.
	What's the other guy's name?
	Troll room.
	Anyway, Collinsworth.
	Al Michaels.
	Al Michaels.
	Al Michaels is the guy who somehow wormed his way into Monday Night Football until he found Chris Collins.
	He was having everybody fired.
	And I don't think he's very good.
	And he sounds like Kermit the Frog.
	And Collinsworth has got a strange voice that kind of annoys me.
	And Collinsworth was the one harping on this.
	Ah!
	I wouldn't have called it that way!
	And if you thought there were riots in Philadelphia, if they had called that and not a catch or the other one, there were two of them.
	Yeah, then you would have seen some shit go down.
	But the commissioner had, before the game, had gone on and on about these idiotic no calls.
	Is it a catch?
	It's a catch.
	He caught it.
	And if you look carefully where his foot was, he caught it before, but he had two feet in it.
	I'm not going to argue that.
	I don't care about that.
	I'm just going to say that I think it went to where it should have gone.
	Now, I don't know if this is true, but a report came through that an NFL entertainment lawyer who...
	Had at some point said to reporters, although this has not been reported widely and I have questions about the sources, that, hey man, the Super Bowl is rigged.
	It was found dead in his BMW. Shot dead.
	If anybody wants to look into this, Super Bowl is rigged.
	Type in Google or Bing it, baby.
	Or Bing it, yeah, Bing it.
	Bubba Smith Super Bowl rigged.
	And read the whole story there.
	Bubba Smith was the first guy who bitched and moaned about, he believed that the Joe Namath Jets, when the first American conference team won a Super Bowl, he believed that game was rigged and he has a lot of Evidence.
	I think he's dead too, but...
	Uh-huh.
	But this is a long time, so he's like...
	Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing.
	You go bing it, people.
	Get back to us.
	So, John Perry Barlow died yesterday.
	Oh, you're kidding.
	Oh, that's horrible.
	Yeah, I want to call out if we don't have any.
	I knew him pretty well.
	I didn't really leave on good...
	He didn't really leave on good terms with me, which is what I'm sad about, but...
	Well, he had a really bad heart attack in 2015.
	I remember you telling us that he was sick and you went to see him not too long ago?
	Yeah, I saw him and hung out.
	So tell us about John Perry Barlow, just so people know who we're talking about here.
	He's a very famous, kind of a strange character who was...
	A hippie.
	First of all, he's a hippie.
	He's a major league hippie.
	a lyricist for the Grateful Deadness.
	He got a big reputation for being that way.
	But he helped start the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
	He's a radical.
	But he was a weird radical.
	He was, like, voted for George Wallace.
	He was a campaign manager for Dick Cheney in Wyoming.
	He's a strange guy and likable.
	I've always liked talking to him when he was sick.
	I probably saw him more than I did ever.
	And what I always liked about him is he was a poet.
	Yeah.
	And what it meant for me was when you're just chatting with him, he would turn a phrase every so often, just in the right amount of time, every so often you'd hear him say something.
	It's just a Just a different way of saying something.
	And it was always fascinating.
	He was the most interesting guy to talk to if you appreciated people who could twist things around a little bit and make them interesting.
	But he had this heart attack and he blamed Stanford Med for his never fully recovering.
	He was bitching on Twitter about it.
	He never fully recovered.
	That's the problem.
	Well, so I met him the same time I met you for the first time on the set of the CNET pilot, when they were still thinking this was going to be...
	Well, they didn't know what they were doing.
	No, I registered CNET.com for them because they were so stupid.
	I said, I'll register.
	And I hosted their email for about a year.
	But later, the famous MTV.com lawsuit came about, and I called him.
	I don't know if I called or emailed him.
	I said, hey, man.
	Actually, we did speak.
	Can you guys help out with this?
	He said, no, we're not going to do that.
	I said, well, wait a minute.
	You tout to be against the man, and here I am fighting the man, David versus Goliath.
	No, we're not going to help you.
	So I was like, oh, fuck you then.
	See, now I feel bad about it because now we didn't resolve that before he died.
	It's going to haunt me.
	Well, I had what we used to do to these events for journalists called the Spangler Society meetups.
	And you get about 80 or 90 people gathering, all journalists.
	I'd always invite Barlow into these things because, I don't know, my sense of humor, I guess.
	Because the professor I talk about, my professor, Greg, the journalist, and Barlow hated each other.
	Uh-huh.
	And I never could figure out why not, but I was always fascinated.
	They'd be in the same group of people, less than 100, but enough that they'd have to run into each other.
	And I've always been keeping an eye out for this.
	And then they would.
	And it was almost like the chicken fight on Family Guy.
	I mean, they seemed like they could get along, but for some reason they just couldn't.
	And that they would go at each other, and I was like, I could, to the life of me, never figured out.
	And I grilled both of them about it, especially Barlow.
	Yeah.
	Couldn't come up with any reason.
	No, I said, well, no, I don't see it that way.
	Or it's just like, they would not pay.
	Dimension A and B, perhaps.
	They were both super dimension B people.
	The rift in the dimension.
	I have no idea.
	But anyway, he's a B-Mist.
	He's a really great guy.
	A very fundamental character.
	Yes.
	And there were some other interesting things that happened this past week.
	I was listening to all of the financial channels as I watched the market crash.
	As I watched everything go down, and I have some thoughts on that.
	Here's a clip that I picked up.
	And we can talk about what the VIX is, but I just thought that this was from a woman on television.
	I thought this was a great...
	Yeah, it caught my attention.
	Amazon stock.
	It was highly technical.
	So you've got that VIX index.
	The fear index was really low last year, which didn't make a lot of sense to many people.
	We're going, wait a minute.
	We're not paying attention to any geopolitical risks.
	But we weren't.
	And a very profitable trade, which became very popular, was people going short that VIX index.
	People going short volatility, saying there's no risks in these markets, so I'm going to continue to go short.
	And when you go short a product like that, you can do it on a levered basis.
	So suddenly, when volatility ticks back into the market, those guys who are short volatility took it like they were wearing a barbed wire thong.
	It was devastating when you saw the dish double in one day.
	That is a rough image, Stephanie Ruhl.
	Well, that's exactly what it is.
	When you see the Vicks double in one day, those guys got absolutely liquidated.
	They got smoked.
	It was like a derivative on top of a derivative.
	I'm just going to leave it there.
	We can just let that barbed wire thong thing sink in.
	Actually, don't let anything like that sink in.
	Stephanie, good to see you.
	I love that.
	They're good.
	Give me more analogies like that.
	I heard you and Horowitz on DH Unplugged talking about it.
	I think I have a little different take on what happened.
	Alright.
	What was your conclusion?
	What did you guys come up with?
	The basic conclusion?
	I don't remember.
	I don't think we really had a conclusion.
	I had a couple.
	I didn't think it was a big deal.
	I thought it was a correction of sorts.
	I still think it is.
	And, uh, it, it may have been a symbolic, uh, thing because the, uh, the, the hand, I mean, I don't think it was a coincidence that the exact, almost the exact moment they hand over the reins, uh, to, uh, the new guy.
	Yeah, that definitely didn't help.
	And then Janet Yellen comes out and says a bunch of bad things about the market that didn't help.
	She did it on Judy Woodruff's show that Friday.
	And I didn't clip it because she's so boring.
	And Horowitz felt similar because he had something else that she did that she said along with Greenspan complaining about the market being overheated.
	I love the conspiracy theories that the bankers, the Illuminati, brought it down.
	They brought it down.
	That's how they do things.
	Well, why would they do that?
	I actually had an initial theory that because Janet Yellen was on the Council of Foreign Relations and the new guy wasn't, that it was a message.
	But how wrong I was...
	She's on the Council of Foreign Relations, and so is he.
	Well, of course they are.
	In fact, they've all been, every...
	Every one of these guys has been on the CFR. Well, I study the markets, and here's what I saw happening.
	You really have a couple of groups who are in the marketplace.
	You've got your algos, you've got your algorithmic bots out there doing stuff, which are really not all that smart.
	You can actually recognize some of them, some of them key off, like when it hits 50, it'll bounce, or 35.
	You can actually see it over time if you look at a chart.
	You can see how that works.
	Then you have the big, big players, big money, big manipulation, banks, huge hedge funds players.
	They can actually move markets with the size of money they have.
	Wait, because I'm going to lose this train of thought.
	I think we should have a segment like this every so often and we need one of our guys.
	Chris might be able to do it.
	We need a jingle.
	Take the song Day Trippin' to Day Tradin'.
	There you go.
	Day Trader, yeah.
	Beep, beep, beep, beep.
	Oh, that's a different one.
	Okay.
	Yes, day traded.
	Yeah, perfect.
	So then you have fund managers, or managers like Horowitz, people who manage your money.
	And then you have really, people-wise, 90% of everybody, of people in the market is retail.
	Maybe you've got kiddies with Robinhood.
	I've complained about this for a long time.
	But it's a lot of people.
	People trading from their IRA accounts.
	Besides pharmaceutical ads, what is the other prevalent ad you see?
	Oh, I can take care of my own financial future.
	I'll trade on E-Trade.
	This will be great.
	And a lot of these people, even people I warned, they all got into Bitcoin.
	Or derivatives thereof.
	And Bitcoin was tanking.
	And I said it would be $82.30.
	It went through $82.30.
	I said, oh shit, we're going to go to $68.
	It went to $66 at a certain point.
	So Bitcoin was crashing.
	What happens is the retail people lost their money.
	They didn't have any money to play.
	Certainly not on that day.
	And even if they sold, they couldn't get their money immediately.
	We've talked about that.
	These exchanges can take up to 10 business days just to get your money.
	They were not playing, and the algos were programmed, which I think they've been for a couple of weeks now, to pop and drop.
	It waits for a certain level, it pops up, idiots go, oh, we have action!
	They click buy, and then it drops, and then they lose their money.
	And this just kept on happening.
	Whatever people were in the market just kept on losing.
	They gave up.
	And then you hit all of these really simple rules in the algos that say, if this dips below the 50-day moving average, sell.
	And then, of course, you would sell, sell, sell.
	Then you had those exchange-traded funds, which are kind of a black box of bullcrap inside.
	And I think you can win twice as much if you win.
	I don't know.
	I don't trade.
	You can lose twice as much.
	And then that just started a cascade, and it just took it all the way down.
	It actually did a pretty orderly fashion.
	And so I think it was a...
	Now, you can say maybe Bitcoin was manipulated, and it's rebounding somewhat as we speak.
	I haven't actually checked it today.
	But I think it was a perfect storm of elements, and I blame the cryptos and the algos.
	Cryptos and the algos.
	I think that argument would be viable, I think.
	Mm-hmm.
	That's not the word.
	I mean, viable, valuable.
	I think it's legit.
	This is CNBC. They had their own take on the algos, which is funny.
	When the algorithmic trading kicks in...
	You know Alan Valdez?
	He's been a trader here for a long time, a good friend at the network.
	He said to me, Liz, the reason it's calm down here is because it's silent and the algorithms, he calls them algos, are making these trades.
	He said these kids who are running the algos...
	He said they're loading up the machines.
	They see it go up, they sell 10%.
	They see it go down, they buy 20%.
	Liz, that's short, that's short.
	When the algorithm starts to sway Opinions on the news today There's a guy coding in L.A. To keep us afraid And Facebook made That's right.
	The algos are to blame.
	Technology is not your friend.
	At all.
	Oh!
	Speaking of.
	Another big news event.
	We saw the launch of the...
	What was it?
	The Falcon Heavy?
	Yeah, the...
	Whatever, the big one.
	The one that they want to use.
	Apparently no one has ever...
	The big payload.
	Yeah, no one has ever launched one of these?
	No, no, they've...
	No.
	People have launched bigger rockets than that.
	Uh-huh.
	This is the first for them, for SpaceX.
	It's their big...
	Oh, Elon!
	Yes.
	Oh, Elon!
	Elon!
	Well...
	So now part of his PR campaign is he sent a Tesla Roadster up into space.
	Yeah, because they can't sell them.
	You waited on that one.
	I like it.
	Very good.
	So they have this guy in it called the...
	Well, before I even get to that, let me play this little clip here just to show you the Elon love is so almost unhinged.
	This also created probably the ISO of the day.
	This is...
	What is her name?
	Rachel Crane.
	She was at the launch live.
	By the way, I've got one more voice.
	Rachel Crane, who's actually there.
	Lucky, lucky fellow space geek.
	Who's there taking it all.
	Lucky, lucky fellow space geek.
	What is that?
	There's a thing with women.
	Lucky, lucky, lucky fellow space geek.
	There's a group of women who love to be recognized as geeks.
	Nerds and geeks.
	Nerds and geeks.
	This is what happened with me about five years ago, maybe longer.
	When Veronica Belmont was on one of these shows I was on with her, and I said, well, you're anything but a nerd, because I was referring to the fact that she didn't look like a doofus.
	It was basically your hashtag MeToo moment.
	Yeah.
	By not saying she was a nerd, I apparently insulted her.
	Yes.
	And this became a big deal for a couple of weeks.
	And I apologized, as I should do.
	And I rolled my eyes and gave up on the whole idea.
	But yeah, I don't know what this is all about.
	You see with actresses, a lot of actresses call themselves nerds.
	So, this is fellow space geek.
	I guess, I don't know what it is.
	Maybe some of our female producers can enlighten us.
	Us old white men.
	But it's identifiable.
	By the way, I've got one more voice.
	Rachel Crane, who's actually there.
	Lucky, lucky fellow space geek.
	Lucky, lucky fellow space geek.
	Who's there taking it all in.
	Jumping up and down.
	I feel your enthusiasm.
	Jumping in front of the camera.
	Rachel, talk to me and tell me also about these boosters.
	Yeah.
	Right, well, Brooke, we did just see two boosters coming down moments ago, but the entry burn was shut down.
	We don't see them anymore, but I do hear people cheering around me.
	There's a couple buildings, so it's long.
	Oh, there's a sonic boom!
	Woo!
	Wow.
	Brooke, I can't even begin to describe the excitement around me.
	I mean, everybody's coming out from the buildings here.
	It's orgasmic!
	Oh, there's a sonic boom!
	Woo!
	Woo!
	Oh, lovely.
	For this obvious scam where they're now saying, oh yes, we have this Tesla.
	And there may very well be a Tesla as a payload, but they have a live stream of a Tesla with a mannequin in a little suit spinning around above the beautiful, beautiful globe, the round earth, not flat at all, but the round earth.
	Sadly, though, in their own video, and I put it in the show notes, you have to see this, there's a YouTube of their broadcast, and coincidentally, at 33 minutes, they switch over to the, you know, what they say is, now we're going to the rocket, to the payload, so you can see the...
	At 33 minutes?
	Yes, 33 minutes, the Starman, and they switch, but it's just the car, the Starman, for like two seconds, a second and a half, the Starman in there, And it's in a studio with lights shining on it.
	It's got tape on the walls for the superimposed so they can match it up perfectly.
	And then the background fades in.
	Their own stream.
	It's a hoax.
	It's a total hoax.
	YouTube is filled with people talking about this.
	Well, there was another theory that they actually did send something up.
	And it's actually a corpse.
	And nobody...
	This is one of our producers, by the way, not me.
	And they're not talking about...
	But in the underground amongst the super elite rich, this is the latest way to...
	To bury the super rich.
	That's probably David Rockefeller in that car.
	So you get buried in space in a Tesla, in a suit.
	Yeah.
	Oh, very good.
	There's a star man running through the sky.
	He'd tell us that the Earth's flat, but he thinks he'll blow our minds.
	There's a star man, driving through the sky.
	He says he sees a flat plane, but the thought is just a lie, he told it.
	Yes, we live on a disc, and Kepler's full of shit.
	Copernicus, a wanker.
	Yes, Sir Chris from Australia.
	Of course.
	He's lighting it up.
	He got a longer version of that later at the end of the show.
	But yeah, that was disappointing.
	I'm sure Rocket went up, but I even have engineers writing me emails saying, wow, there's a lot of stuff that really, looking at the video, just looked pretty incredible.
	Yeah, well, that's an awkward payload.
	But I like the idea of burying the rich in space like that.
	I think we should keep that one, yeah.
	Keep that one going, because that's a possibility.
	Yeah.
	So in other words, if you see another publicity, see who died recently, that's super rich, that could afford, it probably cost 100 million bucks to pull this off, maybe more.
	It's good money, it goes right into the coffers.
	Yeah.
	Under petty cash.
	He is.
	And up they go and send them to Mars.
	Yeah.
	You know Elon is probably, when he dies, he's definitely going to put himself in one of these things and crash land on Mars.
	Because he said he wanted to die on Mars, I think.
	Here's the summary of the whole launch.
	Let's go!
	Let's go!
	There you go.
	That's the whole launch right there.
	That's a good mix.
	Talking about humorous mixes.
	So I'm watching Conan.
	Oh.
	And there's a comedian on there who's kind of like a...
	I'm sure he doesn't listen to No Agenda, but he's got the No Agenda.
	If anybody likes No Agenda humor, they'd like Bill Burr.
	Mm-hmm.
	And so I have this clip because this one I kind of came into kind of confirming my kind of, I feel the same way.
	And then it comes on and throws out something that you feel the same way about.
	We did this, a still.
	This is about Alexa.
	I think we have it.
	What's going on here?
	Did you buy Alexa?
	No, I don't know why people would voluntarily bug your own house.
	Like, do you think you're the only one listening in on that?
	You never saw Weird Science, how creepy these nerds are?
	All these cameras on your phone?
	All of that.
	The people who go on Ancestry.com, why would you send your saliva into the internet?
	Why would you do that?
	Why don't you just go to the Illuminati and help them build your robot replacement?
	I don't understand.
	Yeah.
	Very good.
	Yeah.
	Hits all the marks with that one.
	Yeah, he hits two or three of them.
	A couple of check marks.
	I did grab my own copy of the paste bin of the entire address book of Anthony Weiner's laptop.
	How many names were on yours?
	Oh, I didn't count them, but I think I got the full thing.
	You sure?
	No.
	Again, I didn't count them, but it was a big list.
	The one I saw had numbers along the side because it was a...
	It's first name.
	It was alphabetized by first name.
	Let me see.
	I have it here.
	Yeah, by first name.
	How many?
	If you have it there, how many?
	Which is Google.
	So how many names were on yours?
	Well, but I don't see any numbers, so I don't have a spreadsheet.
	I just have a list, so I don't have a number list.
	But what's the last name on the list, then?
	Oh, okay.
	Hold on.
	Let me go to the bottom.
	Oh, you're right.
	I only go...
	No, no, no.
	Z. Zoe Chance?
	No, no.
	Zoe's in the middle.
	That's just some sort of a screw-up.
	The last name on there is a Peter.
	No, but I also have Wayne.
	I've got all kinds of W's.
	I've got Tricia.
	Oh, you've got a lot of W's at the end?
	Yeah, I've got Wayne Barrett, Wayne Coombs, Wayne Hutton.
	My list craps out at Peter.
	Peter Doherty?
	Well, one of the Peters.
	I don't have it in front of me.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But above that is...
	I have a full list.
	I think it's a full list.
	It's a great list.
	It's got Bill Clinton's cell phone.
	Yeah.
	There's a lot of good stuff on there.
	I get the biggest kick.
	You know David Korn?
	Yes.
	AOL.com.
	Very good.
	You get to see how lame some of these guys, both their email addresses are.
	A lot of them just Google accounts.
	First and last name.
	Not a big deal.
	A lot of cell phone numbers.
	It's a good list.
	I want to get a copy of yours because mine craps out.
	Because I think there's a good mailing list in there.
	You have all the email addresses.
	And that's why I grabbed it.
	I personally don't really care.
	But I was like, oh, John would love this as a mailing list.
	So I grabbed it for you, actually.
	I'm like, oh, he loves this stuff.
	Because he strips out the email addresses and emails people with his angry rants.
	That's all.
	That's what I do.
	I just imagine some old fart.
	Look at this.
	I got new fresh meat.
	I got new fresh meat.
	I can mail them.
	So a lot of these guesses, it looks like somebody massaged the list a little bit and tried to change the at.
	Yeah, they did that for scraping.
	Yeah, but they only did a few, because most of them you're going to have to do it.
	The raw version was out there, too.
	That's what I got for you, baby.
	I got the one with the at signs.
	Okay, good.
	I'm taking care of you, bro.
	It was Perrin's at, the word at.
	That's easy to cut and replace.
	I know, but I did it for you.
	No, I appreciate it.
	Because you're right, you beat me.
	That's because I love you, man.
	But it was very...
	In fact, I was up too late last night because I was going through the list, even though I only had 639 names.
	I think you have probably 800 before.
	And I just couldn't stop going through the list to see who's on it.
	He doesn't have George Soros' personal phone numbers or cell, so he's not that connected.
	He has a bunch of Hollywood moguls' names and phone numbers and cells.
	Yeah.
	A lot of Hollywood people on that list.
	Well, he sees Carlos Danger.
	I mean, what do you expect?
	And then a bunch of just names, like there was one Daphne or something and no information whatsoever.
	Yeah, just Daphne.
	It's just a screwy thing to look at.
	It's just entertaining.
	Yeah, you should, when you send your angry rants to the list, you should just, you know, a subject line, you've got mail!
	Yeah.
	You can bitch about potholes and stuff.
	It's great.
	Yeah, potholes.
	Did you see the Nancy show?
	Yesterday.
	I watched about half an hour of it, trying to find something good, because she was actually doing okay, even though I do have the best slur I could find, you know, where she's trying to pronounce.
	It was actually a teaser on one of our local shows.
	I think I have it here.
	I'm going to play it.
	We'll tell everyone what this is about, what we're talking about.
	Yes, so this was a...
	Pelosi trying to say dignity.
	Now, she's got the word in here, dignity.
	See if you can hear it.
	Give us a vote, Mr.
	Speaker.
	Give us a chance.
	Treat this house with the jigny it deserves.
	I think she said kidney.
	She said jigny.
	Jigny?
	It sounded like kidney.
	Kidney.
	Maybe it's kidney.
	That was funny.
	Hold on.
	Treat this house with the jigny it deserves.
	Well, you know, I'll say this.
	She's no...
	You know, no youngster.
	And talking for seven or eight hours, you and I have both done it, on this show even.
	It's pretty tiring.
	And, you know, she was very...
	We could have gone another two, easily.
	She was very proud of herself, because I kind of came in at the end.
	I saw your tweet, and so I watched about, you know, 20, 25 minutes.
	She was very proud of herself.
	She got into that kind of silly giggle.
	And, you know, that she was doing this all for DACA kids and, you know, the Dreamers, fantastic...
	She might do it for American kids once in a while.
	That would be fun to watch.
	But yeah, we don't really get that.
	What I found the only clippable bit was this one.
	I'm reminded of my own grandson.
	He's...
	Irish, English, whatever, whatever, and Italian-American.
	He's the mix.
	But he looks more like the other side of the family, shall we say?
	And when he had his sixth birthday, he had a very close friend whose name is Antonio, who's from Guatemala.
	And he has beautiful tan skin, beautiful brown eyes, and the rest.
	And this was such a proud day for me because when...
	My grandson blew out the candles on his cake.
	They said, did you make a wish?
	And he said, yes, I made a wish.
	He said, well, what is your wish?
	He said, I wish I had brown skin and brown eyes like Antonio.
	So beautiful.
	So beautiful.
	The beauty is in the mix.
	The face of the future for our country is all American, and that has many versions.
	It's very interesting what she's saying here.
	The future of our country is in the mix, which means we will all be brown, which is true.
	But really, she couldn't say the word white or Caucasian.
	He looks like the other side of the family.
	The whole thing was kind of a big microaggression to me.
	Racist.
	Well, I think it is racist.
	Textbook definition racist, but worth noting.
	That was a good catch, because I couldn't catch anything.
	I recorded a bunch of it.
	It was right at the end.
	I thought she was going to go all night.
	I didn't know she was going to kill it at eight hours.
	I would have tried to catch something near the end.
	Do you have a Pelosi speech PBS clip?
	This is about it.
	This is about the speech.
	You can play this in a minute.
	So I'm going to go on as long as my leadership minute allows.
	The Democratic minority leader, Nancy Pelosi, held an exceedingly rare sort of filibuster, turning her allotted one minute of time into hours, all about so-called dreamers, those brought to the U.S. illegally as children.
	She said she could not support a budget deal until there was a guaranteed path for a bill that would protect Dreamers in the House.
	That is a simple request.
	That is a simple request that the House Democrats, and in a bipartisan way, others have joined in asking the Speaker to bring a bill to the floor.
	All about so-called Dreamers, those brought to the U.S. illegally as children.
	She said she could not support a budget deal until there was a guaranteed path for a bill that would protect Dreamers in the House.
	Senate Republicans have promised a debate on the Dreamers' status.
	Speaker Ryan sent a statement out this afternoon urging his House Republicans to vote for this deal.
	He stressed that he thinks this is the way to end this cycle of short-term budget fixes that we've been in for so long.
	John?
	So the way the situation is now is the Democrats are accusing the Republicans, but really President Trump, of holding the DACA kids hostage, using them as a bargaining chip, which they did.
	We have clip after clip of the Dreamers even railing against Pelosi, telling her that if she didn't get a clean bill passed, you remember this, clean bill, then you are racist.
	And that's pretty much the message.
	And what the Democrats are saying is the Republicans, read Trump, are holding these poor children hostage for a stupid wall.
	And the reality, the way I see it, is the proposal that has at least been verbalized is, oh no, I'll give all of your DACA kids and the ones who didn't register as DACA, I'll give them all amnesty and a path to citizenship.
	I'll give it all to them.
	But I do want the wall.
	And so the Democrats, in my view, are actually holding the DACA kids hostage and using them as a bargaining chip.
	So if they give Trump the wall, then they've really lost.
	I don't know how far they're going to go, but they will do, as far as I can tell, anything, including holding DACA kids hostage, to stop any notion of the building of a wall.
	And it's really fucking pathetic.
	I think your analysis is correct, but I will add a couple things.
	We have local coverage of Pelosi because she's a local girl.
	Mm-hmm.
	And because of that incident where she thought she was doing the right thing and trying to help the DACA kids, and then she was confronted.
	And I don't know who put this up together, but they did a great job.
	They confronted her, and it was right local, and almost killed her, it seems.
	Because they got so angry at her because she couldn't deal with them.
	She's old.
	She doesn't know what she's doing.
	I actually have one of those clips.
	Let me see.
	Why don't you play this?
	34 seconds.
	This is the dreamers who were angry with Pelosi and said, we are not your bargaining chip.
	They were accusing her of using them as a bargaining chip.
	She got really flustered.
	We have clip after clip of this one.
	But there they are.
	They were yelling they wanted a clean bill, which at the time I asserted had to be an organization, because this is a political term.
	Now it's in the...
	But they did mention the bargaining chip thing there, and Pelosi figured if she comes out with his eight hours of reading notes from...
	Dreamers who have a hard time of it, or they got screwed by the ICE people, that she would get them back on her side.
	But now that you mention it, I think they'll note that they're still being used as a bargaining chip, which is what their complaint was originally.
	Yeah, but if Democrats do it, then it's not the same.
	That's with everything now.
	At least it's not portrayed that way in media.
	I don't think this is going to get the Dreamers off her ass, is what my comment is.
	I also don't see how...
	Why they have made this, you know, the last stand, this wall, is just beyond me.
	I mean, let him build the damn wall and then bitch about how Mexico is or isn't paying for it, which I think there's a plan for that.
	I think you're right.
	There's a leverage there.
	This is another example of the Democrats not knowing their strengths.
	I mentioned this before about Elizabeth Warren not using the thin-skin thing enough to get...
	Yeah, yeah.
	Because it was very annoying, but she's kind of dropped it.
	But they...
	I think...
	The fact that Mexico is not paying for the wall is a lot of leverage, because then you can keep pointing to the wall, saying, look what we did, we agreed to pay for this, but with the promise that Mexico is going to pay for it, and we did this, it cost this much taxpayers money, and now Mexico is not paying for it, and then you have something to bitch about.
	However, I think they know how Mexico is going to pay for it, and that's why they're afraid to take that tact.
	Because you just do it through...
	You know, through taxes.
	Yeah, well, you can.
	There's a million different ways to do it.
	If that wall is built, there's plenty to bitch about.
	Because it's going to be just a ugly wall.
	And they could make jokes about the wall.
	The media could go look at the wall.
	They could have people scaling the walls.
	There's a million things you could do.
	Cut to a clip.
	A beautiful wall.
	It's going to be a beautiful wall.
	And have a big hole in it.
	There's so many opportunities, but they're not doing it.
	And then Chief Staff John Kelly comes out, the typical military guy, and he says, hey, you know, we offered the Dreamers this path to citizenship.
	But the only number of people is not even 800,000.
	It's less than that.
	But we know there's a million extra people.
	They either were afraid or too lazy.
	I love that, yeah.
	Here's one of the...
	Here's a dreamer.
	Staff John Kelly today swiping some as too lazy to do so.
	Some would say we're too afraid to sign up.
	Others would say we're too lazy to get off their asses, but they didn't sign up.
	That's not sitting well with dreamers like Angel Romero.
	It disgusts me how this administration has been...
	Continually using this harsh language against immigrant communities, against Latino communities.
	It's just wrong.
	His message to General Kelly?
	You need to actually consider that your words do have an impact.
	Hallie Jackson, NBC News, The White House.
	Now, NBC's the worst for this.
	I will suggest...
	That most of the...
	Yes.
	My wife told me to get off my ass yesterday and get something done.
	I didn't take offense to it.
	So I guess if you're white, it's okay that people say you should get off your ass?
	You're lazy?
	Well, I actually see it differently.
	There's a lot of people who are too lazy to get off their ass and to go register.
	And I will tell you that most of them are white.
	They come in from Europe, they overstay their visas, they're working in restaurants.
	New York City is filled, filled with them.
	Working in restaurants mainly, serving.
	And I think they're the lazy ones.
	So, you know, you pull on the shoe you think fits you best, but to me, I think if we did the numbers, you would see that the people who were too lazy were white.
	Well, there's probably that.
	Yeah.
	So, you know, stop being so butthurt over everything and stop victimizing yourself continuously.
	And by the way, you want to be American?
	Gonna show some balls, son!
	And... and Yes.
	I was looking for a segue out of that.
	I was waiting for your seg.
	I didn't come up with anything.
	I dropped the ball.
	This is the jinx.
	Normally I'd have a segue.
	That's okay.
	We have a bunch of...
	I'm just looking at my clip list for stuff that I don't think I have any more on this particular thing.
	No.
	We do have some stuff on the budget.
	The budget is a big deal.
	And that's what Pelosi was bitching about.
	She's trying to hang up the budget.
	I think that's what that last segment was about.
	Mm-hmm.
	They've got a compromise deal in the Senate.
	They both voted for it.
	Schumer, I made this Schumer clip on the compromise because I think if the Republicans lose the Senate in 2018, which is quite possible because everything switches around usually in that off year, I want to keep this clip around.
	I believe we have reached a budget deal that neither side loves, but both sides can be proud of.
	That's compromise.
	That's governing.
	That's what we should be doing more of in this body.
	Because he's going to be the next Speaker of the Senate or the...
	Not the speaker, but the majority leader.
	Majority leader, yeah.
	And he will be, it'll be his turn to eat shit.
	Yeah.
	I mean, the thing, the beauty of the internet is that just every single story where you have some douchebag, you know, talking smack about any topic, all you have to do is bing it, and then you can find the same douchebag talking smack about the exact same opposite side of that conversation a few years earlier.
	It just happens over and over.
	Yeah, and our show proves it.
	In fact...
	Actually, you don't even have to Bing the internet.
	We have the clips.
	That's right.
	Go to bingit.co.
	And you can find all of that.
	I don't want to stray, but you...
	Budget.
	Because you have another budget clip here.
	Yeah, I get a bunch of stuff.
	The budget thing, it looks like it's going to pass.
	They're making a big fuss about it, but I think they got the numbers that passes.
	But of course, let's play...
	I got budget concerns with...
	Where's my budget clips?
	I have a bunch of budget clues, but let's start with the one I can find, which is budget concerns.
	This has got some numbers so we can get a feeling for what's going on.
	They're just spending us right into bankruptcy.
	The deal centers around the over $1 trillion in spending Congress controls.
	Defense and non-defense nearly split that total, and both would have faced budget cuts.
	This proposal would increase both, boosting defense about $160 billion, and non-defense about $130 billion.
	That erases budget cuts and adds more as well.
	In all, it's about $300 billion in increased spending over two years.
	About two-thirds of that, most of it, is not paid for and would add to the deficit.
	But those in charge in Congress and at the White House praise the mega deal as well worth it for granting budget stability and strengthening the military and the rest of government.
	If you vote yes, you're voting to fix the military.
	If you vote no, you're voting against fixing the military.
	From the House Armed Services Chairman to President Trump's Press Secretary Sarah Sanders.
	This deal achieves our top priority, a much-needed increase in funding for our national defense.
	The bottom line is that thanks to President Trump, we can now have the strongest military we have ever had.
	And that's just the beginning of the deal.
	It includes billions to fight the opioid crisis for community health centers, a longer extension of the Children's Health Insurance Program, and even a special committee to deal with minors' and others' pensions.
	But it wasn't all cheers.
	The most conservative members exiting the meeting where they learned of the deal were openly hostile to it.
	And they went on about, it's just too much money being spent.
	Well, and all this on military, you know, and this bull crap about, oh yes, the war against opioids.
	Have you seen the buildup we have going on in Afghanistan, which is to protect the poppy fields?
	Trump has no handle on the military.
	They are off to the races doing their own thing.
	I don't know what...
	Where's all these...
	We're supposed to have audits.
	Yeah.
	You know they're just throwing money away.
	I mean, it's not just the military is using money wisely.
	And by the way, we're not talking about – they're always talking about cuts, cuts, cuts.
	And we have to remind our producers and everybody out there that when they're talking about cuts, they're talking about cuts in an already inflated budget.
	In other words, you're spending $600 million and you're proposing you want $660 billion.
	You want $700 billion.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	We can only give you $640 billion.
	They call that a $60 billion cut.
	Yeah, it's a cut in the proposed increase, is what it is.
	Yeah, it's a cut in the increase.
	All proposed cuts are cuts in the increase.
	So this is completely crazy.
	Now, this guy, the Freedom Caucus guy, was on, and he talked way too long, but I do have a clip of him.
	This is a guy in the House who's going to be one of the Republicans who's just not going to vote for this thing, so they're going to have to get Democrats to vote for it, which means...
	Pelosi is going to get her way and they're going to have to at least discuss the kids.
	I want to be clear on what you want here.
	Are you objecting to removing the caps, the spending caps that the Senate is talking about, or do you just want that offset, that additional spending offset?
	I want us to be financially responsible where we do not increase the risk of America going through a debilitating insolvency and bankruptcy.
	Just by way of example, and I'm going to share some data with you.
	You remember we had four consecutive years of trillion dollar deficits.
	That resulted in large part in Republicans capturing the House.
	And we worked hard to reduce that annual deficit down to $438 billion three years ago.
	Two years ago, it went in the wrong direction, up to $585 billion.
	Last year, it went in the wrong direction, $666 billion.
	With this bill, we're going to push the deficit through the trillion dollar mark.
	That's going to adversely affect credit markets.
	That's going to drive up interest rates.
	In turn, that's going to suppress the stock market.
	I think you saw a little bit of that today as news started getting out as to how financially irresponsible this legislation is and how much more money the federal government is going to have to borrow.
	And you look at all the cascading effects of this legislation, and nobody who has any financial sense at all could possibly be for it.
	We've already got the Congressional Budget Office, the Government Accountability Office, the Comptroller General of the United States a year ago warning us that our current financial path as a country is unsustainable, which in accounting language is really, really bad, meaning we're headed towards an insolvency and bankruptcy.
	And now you add to it a spending bill that increases our deficit by at least $200 billion that collectively with everything else causes us this year to blow through the trillion-dollar mark With every single year thereafter being in excess of a trillion dollars of additional debt, and you can see that it's unsustainable and that will collapse in time, the government of the United States, when we no longer have the money to pay for the things that citizens are used to receiving.
	Do you think the Freedom Caucus as a bloc is going to stand up against this?
	Well, the Freedom Caucus, by and large, puts country first.
	This is a no-brainer.
	Quite frankly, the only folks who should be voting for this are the debt junkies who love unsustainable spending bills.
	It might be positive they like unsustainable spending bills because you get to spend a lot of money and then the country goes broke and we become communist.
	But you've always been for putting lots of money into the economy.
	You've always been for this.
	Well, putting money into the...
	Yes, actually, I have.
	I'm a debt junkie.
	But not in the way that where it's just borrowing.
	I mean, I don't mind it when it's the Fed doing it by borrowing, by selling more of our bonds at low interest rates to Americans mostly.
	We're the ones...
	A lot of people don't realize, oh, these Russians and those...
	Chinese.
	Chinese, they own all these bonds.
	The American public...
	It owns most of the bonds.
	They own it in their investment funds.
	401Ks and all that.
	Right.
	And a lot of the retirement systems use a lot of bonds.
	They have them in there.
	So we own most of the bonds.
	And so if anything happens, we're the ones who eat it.
	The American public does it, which is what's going to happen.
	But isn't the creation of those bonds, isn't that equal to the same as printing money?
	That's what a lot of people would say.
	Yes, exactly.
	It's very similar.
	It's not changing the money supply.
	Which will actually, as the rates increase, that's your hidden tax and that will remove your tax benefit that you just got.
	When the rates increase, the bond values go down and your portfolios are worth less, which is the real problem.
	Same thing.
	And so you do...
	So when you hit, say, a million dollars in savings, it might become half a million.
	Wow!
	Well, they could easily double or collapse.
	I mean, if they're...
	Go by half, I can see that.
	That's bad.
	Yes!
	Yeah, and that's what's going to happen when the banks collapse because they have to collapse.
	I mean, these guys all know it's going to happen.
	They just don't know how it's going to happen, when it's going to happen.
	Could be triggered by anything.
	Could be triggered by Bitcoin collapsing or anything else.
	It's just a matter of time.
	We're living on borrowed time.
	Yeah.
	I'm a gloom and doomer.
	And you're good at it.
	So far, we're having a good time.
	Well, just before we go into the B block, this whole budget thing and the money for the military somehow spun into Trump wants a parade.
	And I don't know exactly where this came from.
	This Trump wants a parade.
	I don't know who launched this.
	I didn't hear an official statement.
	Well, everybody's talking about it.
	Do I have a Trump wants a parade clip?
	I think I should.
	Yeah, if you have one.
	I don't see it.
	So, now, if Trump truly wants a parade, what I think he would do is it would be more of a veterans honoring parade.
	That seems so obvious to me.
	Yes, that's what he would do.
	I believe you're correct.
	But, dimension B media, ooh, DBM, We have D-A-M and D-B-M. Dimension B Media, which actually includes Fox News.
	I do want people to understand that I have suggested for many years that Fox News is run by Democrats.
	Not suggested, accused.
	Accused, and this proves it.
	At the inauguration, President Trump was disappointed that he could not have a full military parade with tanks and other symbols of American power to mark his ascent to the presidency.
	That I don't recall.
	I don't recall this either.
	I think that's made up.
	So that's probably where it came from.
	No, no.
	No, it came from his visit to France.
	That's the story, but I have not heard anyone say he wants a parade with any official status.
	I think, didn't Huckabee?
	He has no...
	No!
	The tank treads would tear up Pennsylvania Avenue, Shep.
	It's a lot more than that, isn't it?
	I mean, you'd have to get them in there somehow, and I guess wouldn't the light posts have to come up?
	And how are the bridges?
	I mean, there's a lot to think about, including the D.C. Council this morning that put a no tank sign up there.
	Well, and there's also the fact that they will be taken out of training.
	It would be very costly at a time when defense budgets are a real issue.
	I would describe...
	They just increased by $150 billion.
	What do you mean they're a real issue?
	However, the reaction at the Pentagon yesterday when this story broke as a collective eye roll from military leaders who have spoken to...
	Most thought it was a joke at first.
	Many fear that the U.S. will look like the dictators they scoff at around the world.
	North Korea's leader Kim Jong-un plans a military parade through his capital tomorrow, in fact, to prop up his authoritarian regime.
	China and Russia have long held these kinds of military parades for years.
	All right, stop!
	Stop!
	You Dimension B morons.
	Why don't we just skip the whole opening of the Super Bowl then?
	You know, there's our militaristic might.
	We got flyovers.
	Woo!
	We got flags, colors presented at arms.
	That's not a problem.
	I don't get it.
	...attention to divert their population from criticizing their lack of freedom and good government.
	The tradition in France dates back to Napoleon.
	The U.S. did, however, once have a military parade on Pennsylvania Avenue after the first Gulf War.
	Then Defense Secretary Dick Cheney and General Norman Schwarzkopf reviewed the troops, but that was after the military had won a war.
	Bottom line from Military Brass, whom I've spoken to...
	They abandoned the war.
	You should have abandoned it.
	And we can't celebrate the death of ISIS? Whatever the bullcrap is?
	No, no, no.
	This is run by Democrats, this Fox News outfit.
	And Chef Smith proves it.
	I agree.
	Feeling that they have much more pressing and important issues on their plates and planning a parade is not one of them.
	He could go see the tanks at a military base if he wanted to.
	Well, and they do have parades on those bases.
	We have video of the 82nd Airborne.
	They have annual events.
	There are parades and there are shows of military hardware all across the country.
	An airborne one.
	That's a thing to see.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Or they could give you...
	Wait, wait, wait.
	You're stepping on the last bit that is...
	Now it's not even funny.
	All across the country.
	An airborne one.
	That's a thing to see.
	Oh, absolutely.
	It's incredible.
	Or they could give him replicas, little mini replicas.
	I mean, he wants to see what he has.
	Trump is toast.
	For the rest of his life, he will be seen as an idiotic moron.
	Now, wait a minute.
	I'm listening to this thing, and then it's about, oh, how dumb it is.
	We don't need to see all these things.
	And then what's his name?
	Shep.
	Shep.
	Yes.
	Starts gushing over.
	Oh, this other person is so great.
	It's something to see.
	Let's go see.
	I mean, make up your mind.
	So he's dimension B. He's hating on Trump, even though he loves the thing himself.
	Yeah, he's always been to mention me.
	But what's going on is this globalist idea of...
	It's like the Netherlands.
	I grew up in a country like this, socialist country, where we're quiet about military.
	We don't talk about that.
	We don't honor our troops.
	We don't honor our heroes.
	None of that.
	Yeah, they're over there doing stuff.
	We don't care.
	We're not really going to talk about it.
	And people just don't want to see it.
	Yeah, we got military.
	I don't want to know about it.
	So you have some questions.
	I have a question for you then.
	They say this thing that we did in 1991 cost between $8.
	And $12 million then, which is $21 million now, which I don't believe that's true.
	But let's say it costs $10 million to do this, which could have been used better by feeding the poor.
	Yes, no doubt.
	Now, what expenses?
	You've got a tank.
	That is probably going to be used for exercises.
	It's going to be using a bunch of gasoline.
	But instead of being used for exercises on a base, it is driven down Pennsylvania Avenue.
	But hold on a second.
	This is just made up.
	Who said we're going to have...
	No one has said this.
	You're standing out.
	You're stepping all over what I'm trying to bring up as a premise.
	I'm sorry.
	I don't care whether they bring a tank or they have a bunch of naked soldiers.
	Don't care.
	I'm just asking the simple question is...
	How do you get the figure?
	Say you have a bunch of tanks that have been being used anyway, but you have a bunch of flyovers of guys who normally would be driving around their planes in the middle of the desert in Nevada, and you have a bunch of soldiers marching down the road, like, let's say, 100,000 of them, which is lots.
	Why does this cost anything?
	You're paying him anyway.
	This is Elizabeth, what's her name?
	The congresswoman from D.C. who has no voting rights?
	Norton.
	Norton, that's the one.
	She's the one bitching and moaning about how much it'll cost.
	And it'll rip up the streets with the tanks.
	Well, ripping up the streets is a different issue.
	Sure.
	I have that problem.
	I agree with her on the ripping up the streets.
	Here's my bottom line.
	Well, let's get back.
	You didn't answer my question.
	How much will it cost?
	What do I look like?
	I have no answer for you.
	Because they're insane.
	That's my whole point.
	No one bitches about the complete militarization of our society.
	The militarization, the true militarization of our police forces.
	There's been some bitching about it when Obama was president.
	Now everyone's pretty silent.
	The militarization of our sports games.
	True militarization.
	Yes.
	But, oh, Trump wants a parade.
	Yeah.
	We live in crazy times.
	I think your point is well taken.
	Yes.
	With that, I would like to thank you.
	For your courage and say in the morning to you, John C, where the C stands for Collapses Imminent, Devorah!
	In the morning to you.
	And whoa!
	In the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the days and nights out there.
	In the morning to everybody in the troll room, noagendastream.com.
	Yes, we have a different interface.
	Deal with it.
	Is it really?
	What happened?
	I remember the last show, one of our microservices broke down and...
	How does microservices even fit into a chatroom situation?
	We have an IRC server, and I had just put a little widget on the stream page, which came from somewhere else, Kiwi IRC, which had been working fine for years until it didn't work anymore.
	And then I found out that the IRC server we have has its own web interface, so I substituted it for that, and it's different.
	So people are all butthurt.
	Oh, no!
	Exactly.
	And I'd like to thank almighty MyZ!
	For bringing us the artwork for episode 1005, Circular Reporting, the title of that.
	I've heard the term several times now in the media since we used it on this show and as the title.
	This was the big game football with our names on it, which we typically discourage, but it had the nice No Agenda logo, 33.
	It was just appropriate.
	It was appropriate for the show.
	It worked.
	It worked.
	We liked it.
	We appreciate it.
	And thank you, almighty my Z and all of our artists who willingly and gleefully upload their creative work to no agenda art generator dot com as part of their value.
	They are giving back to the show and we use one for every single show.
	No, not many podcasts, if any, are that good at changing the artwork with good artwork for every single show.
	None that I know of.
	No, no, no, no.
	So thank you very much, Noah.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com.
	Well, let's thank a few people for being executive and associate executive producers for this show, which is show 1006, named after the supernova.
	I would mention that we have a balanced...
	The group today, we have three executive producers and three associate executive producers.
	I always kind of like it when it's balanced.
	And curiously, all three executive producers gave the exact same amount of 3-3-3, which I found to be interesting.
	Starting with Sir Abel Kirby, Knight of the Fighter Flight.
	Now, you know who he is, Sir Abel Kirby.
	This is the guy you were just going on and on about how great he is.
	Okay.
	He did that fabulous mix on the previous show.
	Oh, that mix.
	Yeah, that was dynamite.
	Let me see.
	It was...
	Let me just open it up here.
	That was...
	Which one was it?
	I think you opened with it.
	I think it's this one.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, this.
	Yeah.
	You said it was Hamilton-worthy.
	It was.
	It's really good.
	And the guy...
	It's just got Broadway written all over it.
	And he's like, you know...
	I really don't know how to mix.
	I don't know how to master.
	What?
	Heaven forbid this guy has some skills.
	This guy has a career.
	A career, I tell you.
	He can sing.
	He can write.
	He has that whole Broadway vibe, that sound.
	We have great producers on this show.
	And he's supporting us with his donation.
	Yeah, can't beat it.
	Um...
	Looking forward to another Colorado meetup.
	Viva la podcastro!
	Yes.
	I got to go to Colorado now just to see him.
	Yeah.
	Well, then maybe you can sit him down on a board or two and show him some tricks.
	Yeah.
	I'll show him my mastery.
	I'll show him some tricks.
	Okay.
	Show him some tricks.
	Yeah, baby.
	Tricks of the trade.
	Tricks of the trade.
	Tricks of the trade, baby.
	Sir Michael of the Third World Southeast Asia.
	No, NJNK? He doesn't want anything?
	Yeah, I didn't see anything on there, did you?
	Well, let me give him a special karma.
	You've got...
	Go!
	Let's go!
	Karma.
	That's the Super Bowl rap.
	Yeah, that is.
	Sir Michael of the Third World Southeast Asia.
	I'm glad you started to appreciate that a little more.
	What, the Super Bowl?
	Third World Southeast Asia, Seattle.
	He's up in Seattle, 333.
	I wanted to donate 220-222, but PayPal won't let me change.
	Or I'm too stupid.
	I don't know.
	This is in honor of Sir Michael Pocket.
	Pronounced it pocket.
	His birthday was the 5th of February, so this is for him.
	Please credit him and thank him for punching me in the mouth.
	Yes.
	He hit you in the mouth and he's on the list.
	Okay.
	Good deal.
	Sir Roadwolf, Baron of Western New York, again 333.
	And he says, I'm hosting a meetup in the Noagenda listeners in Buffalo on Saturday, March the 17th.
	At the Puro Street Grill at 530 would like be great if fellow listeners in the western New York area shuffled, shuffled, says shuffled.
	It ends that way.
	He wanted me, I'm going to probably send out a little localized because with MailChimp, you can send out within 150 miles of this zip code email.
	Yeah.
	So I'll do him a favor of doing that and then I would hope that he would develop his mailing list of the locals and then try to start up a, you know, have a meetup once in a while with these people.
	You'll find that the people that go to these meetups are all of a like mind and are very happy to meet each other because they're, it's like a, it's like an oasis of logic and reason.
	It is.
	It's nice to have.
	That you don't find anywhere else.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	It doesn't matter if you're black or Latino or you're gay or trans.
	We got it all.
	It doesn't matter.
	It doesn't matter if you're 19 or 99.
	It's the rational people meeting.
	And nobody cares about that stuff.
	Kalen, or Colin, Kalen.
	Kalen, this story in Northville, Michigan.
	We have first associate executive producer coming here at 23333.
	Your last few episodes have been a blast.
	Especially the last 1,005.
	Thank you for that.
	Please blast my friend, a dude named George Melkor, with a douchebag call-out.
	Douchebag!
	And thank you again.
	Again.
	Tim White, 20871.
	Birthday?
	Donate?
	Do easy on the birthday list, is he?
	Oh, hold on a second.
	Uh, hmm.
	Where are we?
	Hold on, hold on.
	I'm guessing new because I see no yellow.
	I don't see any yellow either.
	This is from Tim White.
	Tim White, okay.
	Tim White for...
	His wife, it looks like.
	Does she have a name?
	No.
	But he wants an F cancer karma and a parenting karma for all.
	We can do that.
	I think you've got karma.
	I think his wife must have died because of the way he puts this.
	Oh, no.
	On what would have been my wife's 47th birthday.
	And this is his birthday donation to...
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I don't know whether he wants a call out for her.
	Maybe we should not do it.
	Well, I'm doing it.
	Why not?
	Yeah, why not?
	I don't know.
	It's fine.
	Yeah.
	I still think of my mom on her birthday.
	Okay, good.
	You don't think of your mom, you horrible son, you?
	You know, I don't remember people's birthdates or anything, so I get lucky with a lot of them.
	For example, my daughter's born on 7-Eleven.
	Oh, well that's, hey, same as Tina the Keeper.
	And yes, we mentioned that before.
	And my mother, I don't remember the date.
	I still don't actually remember the date, but she was born on Reagan's birthday.
	Well, that was just recently, just the other day.
	Yeah, well...
	Good work.
	Sir, uh...
	Karis.
	Karis in Somerville, Massachusetts.
	That's 20120, which is 100.60, which is our celebration for show...
	1006.
	ITM gents, loving the memo deconstruction lately.
	Keep up the good work.
	Humbly request Chemtrails and Obama, you might die.
	Sir Karis.
	I'll give him some karma with that as well.
	Chemtrails.
	You've got karma.
	I would consider that an A combination.
	It's a very good combo.
	I like it too.
	So those are our executive and associate executive producers for show 1006.
	Wow, okay.
	It's a light list.
	Well, it's better than it was for that one.
	It's better than last week.
	Yeah, last week was the last show.
	Last show.
	Yeah, last show.
	Well, we want to thank our executive producers and our associate executive producers.
	Contrary to any model that's out there, we actually hand out credits that are valuable, usable, and real because you have done exactly what Hollywood does when it comes to being an executive or an associate executive producer.
	That's why you should use these credits.
	Yes!
	On your letterhead, your business cards, your LinkedIn, anywhere that they're recognized.
	You can even join a guild with it.
	We know people who have done that.
	And please remember, we have a show coming up on Sunday, and you can check everything out at Dvorak.org slash NA. And everything you learn here today, use that as the formula.
	Go out and propagate it!
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water! Water! Shut up, slave!
	Shut up, slave! - I need!
	Well, the media has just been, uh...
	Just been buzzing.
	Buzzing with, uh...
	With new guys.
	New guys and old guys who are all of a sudden coming out of the woodworks and they're now analysts.
	Have you noticed this?
	No.
	So we have...
	Well, actually, I should play the jingle.
	That always helps.
	Spot the spook.
	Spot the spook.
	Everybody wants to spot the spook.
	Oh, I see where you're going with this already.
	Thank you, jingle.
	So John Brennan is now an analyst for NBC News, former CIA chief.
	But nothing, nothing got me more than this.
	He even wrote a New York Times op-ed about his leaving the agency, a new player on the scene.
	This is Josh...
	Before you go on with this, I know where you're headed, but I have to ask you a couple of questions.
	And by the way, this will lead into a couple of clips of mine, too.
	Thank you.
	First of all, If you're a journalistic institution, can you hire somebody that signed a secrecy agreement and they really can't talk about anything?
	Say they come in contact with some classified information while doing a story or while analyzing something but they can't say anything and they can't analyze because they have to just keep it to themselves.
	Is that wise if you're running some sort of a news operation?
	Do you think it's wise to hire people that are...
	Pretty much gagged.
	Well, can I throw that right back with another question?
	Do you think it's wise as CNN to hire a guy who wrote in the New York Times that he left the FBI to go into the public sphere to defend the FBI? Do you think that's a good idea to hire that guy for your journalistic endeavor?
	My answer is no.
	Why did you resign on Friday?
	Well, it was not an easy decision.
	In fact, it was a very difficult decision.
	But if you ask the men and women of the FBI what the last year and a half has been like, I think to a person, they would say either perplexing, sometimes angering, when you see the political attacks on the FBI. I'm not talking about criticism.
	I want to start, make that point clear.
	Criticism of the FBI is needed.
	We have to have oversight.
	We cannot police ourselves.
	But what myself and my colleagues have been concerned about are the political attacks, the attacks that go beyond process and more, you know, some other motive behind them.
	And my concern was the long-term effects on the organization.
	Now, I could not speak out now as I am to defend the Bureau, to defend our people, and to explain the You know, what it is we do if I was still in the FBI. Nor would you want that.
	You wouldn't want an FBI agent in the organization anonymously, you know, speaking out against partisans.
	It's not what we do.
	So I made the difficult decision to leave a career I love, an organization I still love and will always love, in order to defend it.
	Oh, sure.
	They threw a big party for this guy, Josh Campbell, because he's leaving the FBI to go be the spokeshole for the FBI. Yeah, and it was a career he loved, but he loved it so much he had to leave the agency to do God's work in the media.
	I don't see how this is any different than native advertising.
	Thank you.
	It's very similar.
	Yes.
	You got a guy in there that's a stooge for the FBI. And he's admitted it right there.
	And they're going to let him report.
	He's already compromised.
	Article after article, video piece after video piece about this guy.
	He's from the rank and file, you see.
	And he loves the agency so much that he has taken it upon himself, this hero, to leave the agency to make sure that he can tell everybody what the agency does because it's all good and defended.
	And they hired him.
	It's just really sick.
	It's Smith-Munt in action.
	Propagandizing our own people.
	There's also this element where I think, I really question a lot of this.
	I've said this on the last show.
	Having worked for a government agency, the true rank and file, they usually don't like these guys at the top.
	No.
	Because the guys at the top are dicks.
	And many of them are appointees.
	Yeah, they're political appointees.
	They're not rank and file.
	And the only guy you like is your immediate supervisor.
	And I don't know what this guy was before.
	He just was very vague about it.
	Was he in the public relations?
	What did he do there?
	That's a good question.
	Is there anybody?
	Has he got a wiki page entry?
	Was he a...
	I feel bad that I did not look up his...
	Josh Campbell...
	I never heard of him.
	He'll also be writing op-eds.
	Witnesses...
	Yeah, well, he's going to get boring fast.
	Here's his op-ed in the New York Times.
	Why I am leaving the FBI. The New York Times made space for this.
	And not just a little bit.
	Huge, huge thing.
	Doesn't say...
	Now, he...
	Does Josh Campbell?
	Does he have a wiki page?
	Let me go see if he can.
	Josh Campbell.
	Bing it, baby.
	Bing it.
	One of the greatest honors of my life was walking across the stage at the FBI Academy and receiving my special agent badge from the director of the time, Robert Mueller.
	Sure.
	This guy's going to be so all-in.
	I mean, it's...
	This whole thing is filled with just Dimension B bullcrap.
	But to insinuate that he actually left the agency.
	As you say, you have a non-disclosure for life.
	Well, he's listed in IMDB, if that means anything.
	It's the same guy.
	Josh Campbell with a PB? That's interesting.
	Yeah, it's him.
	So he's in the database as an actor.
	Josh Campbell's known for his work on 10 Chlorofield Lane.
	It looks like the same guy.
	I mean, I could be wrong.
	It could be a different guy, but the picture of him looks the same.
	No, he's got too many...
	No, this can't be the same guy because he's got too many credits.
	No.
	No, that doesn't look right at all.
	So that's probably some other guy with the same name.
	Well, we don't know.
	But it wouldn't be...
	Yeah, but he doesn't have no...
	He doesn't have no wiki page.
	And so that doesn't help.
	I don't know.
	What did he do there?
	I'd still like to know.
	Well, you'll never know.
	They just say former FBI agent is how he will be billed.
	Is he a field guy?
	Okay, I'm not looking at this.
	Now you got me irked.
	And CNN is the worst.
	Those guys.
	We got a lot of email and a lot of actually supporting email on both sides.
	But I still believe that your assessment of Carter Page being a planted spook is spot on.
	There's huge correlation between an undercover agent or someone who was working for the FBI undercover who spoke to the same person Carter Page spoke to at the same event.
	Yet Carter Page says that...
	Well, actually, I have a couple of clips if you're interested.
	He was with Laura Ingraham on Fox, which was...
	I mean, Laura Ingraham must be paid off.
	Anytime the guy said something interesting, when he slipped a little bit and said something, and this was his first interview on television since this has happened, or since the memo came out at least, complete softball interview.
	So you really got to wonder where she's coming from.
	Well, she's a newbie.
	She's just brought in recently.
	She used to be a radio personality.
	I think she's pleasant.
	I don't know that she's...
	It's going to be tough.
	She's always yelling over her...
	Well, not yelling.
	She's always interrupting her guests.
	Just moving the conversation along with Carter Page.
	She's completely passive.
	It was just noteworthy.
	So I have a couple of clips from the interview.
	Now, what did we also learn about Page?
	Because I learned a lot about him also from an older clip I found that I think backs up a lot of our thesis and maybe even more.
	So he also worked at Booz Allen.
	Yeah, I think it was...
	Booz Allen, which was Snowden's gig.
	I think so, yeah.
	Yeah, he worked at Booz Allen in Hawaii.
	That's where he was with his girlfriend before he left to Tokyo.
	So here's the first clip of...
	Hong Kong.
	Hong Kong, I'm sorry.
	Here's the first clip of Ingram with Carter Page about how, you know, he really didn't join the administration.
	As we know, Clovis made up a list and said, hey, let's grab these guys.
	And he sat in one meeting and that was it.
	That was his entire involvement with the campaign.
	But of course, that was enough.
	If you hold on to our theory of he's a plant...
	I was really impressed with a lot of the other people that were on the committee.
	As you mentioned, there were a few names that were mentioned, but really the people that came on in the early months were pretty incredible.
	Carter, there was only one meeting, though, right?
	This was kind of slapped together in 24 hours.
	I talked to one of the people involved in it earlier tonight, and this was kind of thrown together really fast.
	It's like, we've got to have a list of people who are advising us.
	And this is when not a lot of people were helping out Trump in the spring of 2016.
	And so they came up with this list, and you guys had one meeting at the Trump International, I understood.
	But after that, there was no formal gatherings of this group.
	Is that correct?
	You actually raised an important point, Laura.
	I should have clarified, correct, one point that Ed had alluded to.
	That one meeting, I actually had previous...
	You were in Hawaii.
	Well, I haven't said where I was, but if that's...
	Okay, sorry, you were in Hawaii.
	Something going on there.
	He's like, oh, well, I haven't really told anyone where I was, and I have no proof.
	Well, that was a very awkward exchange.
	Yes, because he's like, well, no...
	It's like they had some rule or something.
	Yes.
	This was one of those...
	We know about these where you have a kind of a scripted...
	Well, her question is scripted.
	You can hear her just leading the witness.
	Yeah.
	That edit alluded to.
	That one meeting, I actually had previous...
	You were in Hawaii.
	I was in...
	Well, I haven't said where I was, but if that's...
	Okay, sorry, you were in Hawaii.
	Now, if it's been real...
	Okay.
	Okay, but Carter, you know what I'm getting at?
	What I'm getting at is you were put on this list and your past work that you did in Russia, we'll get into that later, raised the red flag.
	And the FBI apparently had been watching you for some time.
	Okay.
	So I just found that, you're right, the exchange was uncomfortable.
	She outed him on something that was not supposed to be talked about and he mentioned it and she just moved along.
	She did this continuously.
	Now, the meat of Carter Page's involvement in the dossier surrounds a so-called meeting that he had with Igor Sechin, I think it is, and that he said, look, if you can get the administration to drop the sanctions, there's a big reward in it for you, and he flatly denies that.
	There's an entire paragraph, and I believe it's on page 31, where it says that in terms of substance of their discussion, Igor Sechin, who is a very former KGB guy, president of Rosneft, the state-owned oil company, said that the Rosneft president was so keen to lift personal and corporate Western sanctions imposed on the company that he offered Page,
	Trump's associate, the brokerage of up to 19% privatized stake in Rosneft in return.
	And Page had expressed interest and confirmed that were Trump elected president, then sanctions on Russia would be lifted.
	That's right from the dossier, Carter.
	And I think a lot of people hear about the dossier, but they don't know what's in it.
	So you're saying tonight that you have never met Igor, I always forget his name, Sachin.
	You've never met him.
	I've never met him in my entire life.
	What's interesting about it, if you do the math on that, the 19% had a market value of about $11 billion.
	So if you think I'm going to get paid off some way, that seems like a pretty hefty sum.
	That's pretty good.
	I'm going to borrow some money from you someday.
	Neither of us caught that in reading the memo.
	We should have seen that as an obvious bullcrap story that he offered him.
	It's in the dossier, 19% of Ross Smith.
	Yeah, no one's going to do that.
	No, of course not.
	You can get people to do stuff for you for $100,000.
	Why would you give them $11 billion?
	It just makes no sense.
	Neither of us caught that.
	Now, if you're being outed in the media as a spy, what is your first...
	Line of defense.
	What would you do?
	When the FBI is accusing you of stuff like this, and it's coming out in the press, what would you do?
	To stop this...
	I'd get a lawyer, and I'd stop talking.
	No, that's not what he did.
	I sent a letter to Director Comey on...
	This is the last thing I would think of doing.
	Unless I knew the guy.
	I sent a letter to Director Comey on Sunday, September 25th, 2016, two days after the defamatory articles came out against me.
	And I was, you know, as I mentioned there, I basically told him everything is totally false.
	If you have any questions about this witch hunt, which is what I called it, please don't hesitate to contact me.
	I would love to set the record straight and talk with your agents.
	And as I mentioned in that memo to Mr. Coffey, Comey, I said, well, I've been in contact with members of the intelligence community for many, many years, and I'd be happy to help out again in terms of...
	Oh, I'd be happy to help out again.
	He says it right there.
	I've been in touch, and I'd be happy to help this community for many, many years, and I'd be happy to help out again in terms of providing you some accurate insights.
	So he's not unfamiliar with working for the FBI, which brings us to...
	The court case where there's an undercover agent who is a consultant in the energy business.
	Same conference, same hotel, same location.
	Description fits Carter Page extremely well.
	And this is the meeting where...
	I forget which Russian he was meeting with.
	But according to the lawsuit with the transcript that was released, the FBI then put...
	Recording devices into binders that were handed off to two Kremlin officials, I guess.
	I can't remember which official it was.
	But he was at this conference, and so Carter Page is going to poo-poo this, and Ingram's going to provide zero follow-up.
	The way you are portrayed, and people who don't know you, I mean, I guess people are just reading this quickly, headline readers, like, oh, Carter Page is a spy for Russia.
	I mean, that's what, that's what, I think that's what just regular folks who aren't focusing on a lot of these details, that's what they believe.
	That's what they think.
	I mean, that case, I was a witness to, you know.
	There was a diplomat here in New York who I happened to meet at a conference and, you know, we struck up a conversation.
	I met him one time after that.
	And I actually was teaching a course at New York University that semester, and I just told him a couple things I was telling my students about, and he wasn't really interested, and I sent him a couple of course documents.
	Okay, I have a couple questions for you, though.
	There's some things that don't really make sense to me.
	See, completely just glosses over it.
	Completely.
	Now, Daily Caller was able to speak, or so they say, was able to speak with Carter Page, and they asked him specifically about, the guy's name is Sporeshev, Sporeshev, I think?
	Yeah, something like that.
	Who was spied on, and they said, you know, were you this guy?
	His answer, I'm just going to quote, I'm not very familiar with the whole UCE concept.
	That's undercover employee.
	He initially told the Daily Caller News Foundation when asked if he had heard the rumors that he was an undercover FBI agent.
	Quote, I would assume that I'd have been briefed if I were somehow in it.
	Told that the undercover agent planted recording devices in order to surveil, Page said, Well, that settles that.
	Never did anything of that variety.
	Come on.
	What variety did you do?
	And the Daily Caller says he was an FBI spy.
	I still believe he was working for the CIA. And I may be able to back that up with two clips from an interview of him in 2016.
	I believe that he was at first friends with the Clintons.
	Well, I have a theory, which is going to be pretty far out there, but I believe he was friends with the Clintons, something happened, and then he became not so friendly with the Clintons.
	Here's this interview, it may even be on RT, funny enough, from 2016.
	I was a Trident scholar when I was at the U.S. Naval Academy.
	Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, he's also an Eagle Scout.
	Just a little tidbit to add there, an Eagle Scout.
	Eagle Scouts are big in intelligence.
	And these are no slouches.
	Because an Eagle Scout is a no slouch person to begin with.
	We had an Eagle Scout in my high school.
	We have an Eagle Scout producer.
	Yeah, we do.
	A couple of them.
	Yeah, a couple of them.
	This is a very big deal, very hard to obtain, and I'd very doubtfully be a Russian agent, but perfect for Spooksville.
	I was a Trident scholar when I was at the U.S. Naval Academy.
	They take a couple of people a year to do independent research, and as a political science major, I did research on the impact of secrecy on congressional decision-making, and I did a long research piece, and I was a research fellow at the House Armed Services Committee.
	And previously I'd worked for Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, so for me it was particularly crazy that there was these steps being taken against me, and based on false accusations in the press, which had in turn been planted by the Clinton campaign.
	It was so amazing that there used to be so much more rigor, and now it's just sort of political gamesmanship.
	Just for example, when I was working for Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan as a political...
	Was Moynihan a Democrat?
	I believe he was, but I'm going to look it up as this clip plays to make sure.
	He was my honors major, my second class year at the Naval Academy.
	I was a junior research assistant on a book he was working on called Pandemonium, Ethnicity and International Affairs.
	You know, he was so diligent in terms of looking at a lot of the specifics and with the deep research efforts.
	And I, you know, one of my jobs was always running back and forth to the Library of Congress to help go pick them up some of the latest books and coming back with these big pile of books.
	And to compare that to just this, you know, number one, false information, but just citing a couple of basic media reports.
	There have been a couple of articles that came out, and I would constantly get called by a full range of all the, you know, essentially all the major media organizations asking, you know, did you do X, Y, and Z? You know, a few of them would mention that, well, we heard about this, and they kind of mentioned that it was from the Clinton campaign.
	Ah!
	So, what happened when the Clinton campaign...
	Because there's lots of information that he was involved in the State Department.
	So, here's my theory, what went wrong here, and why he was happy to spy.
	This guy looks pretty gay to me.
	And I'm just bringing this up to make a point for the second clip from 2016 on RT. I mean, WikiLeaks, we have all these things about Clinton's wanting to destroy the character and veracity of Jennifer Flowers beyond all recognition.
	I mean, doesn't that frighten quite a few people of the kind of...
	How powerful are they?
	To me, I look at that as almost old news.
	And I think it does keep coming up as the Clintons keep pushing gender issues as part of this campaign.
	Even in a diplomatic sense, that's a longer discussion, but they really have been pushing that as a main reason for strength.
	I'm really playing that card pretty intensively.
	But should we believe WikiLeaks, as we're told not to by the networks?
	I mean, CNN famously said even reading it is illegal in the United States.
	You know, it's not your contention that it is just a Kremlin-operated outfit.
	Again, there's been no proof to that whatsoever.
	You know, no proof put forward.
	So until there is, I don't see any reason.
	And also, you know, there's there hasn't been any major pushback in terms of the actual speaking about veracity of information.
	You know, it's certainly a big question mark surrounding that as well.
	So and again, at the end of the day, you know, the U.S. has pushed for free and fair elections in a lot of countries.
	And I think, as we've seen here, these types of harsh tactics against U.S. citizens.
	And, you know, people like myself who have served in the military.
	I think, you know, I've had a number of people who have lost their lives, including Chris Stevens, just having, you know, part of him.
	Yeah, he was a good friend of mine, both on a personal level, but also on a professional level.
	He was just the kindest individual, so...
	Okay, so here's what I'm going to suggest.
	He was maybe lovers with Chris Stevens, the way he talks about him.
	That's the way he talks about him, yeah.
	Page is 46 and unmarried, so it doesn't mean anything, people, but this is just a show.
	I'm not trying to be a bigot.
	Maybe they were lovers.
	Hillary killed Stevens, at least did not protect him properly, and that's when he just went, screw this, and he's mad forever.
	And now he's so mad that he's taking it too far, and I think he's going to be in very, very big trouble with the things he's saying in this final piece.
	We're going back to the Ingram interview now.
	He is suing the federal government and other outfits for defamation of character and slander.
	You're actually suing...
	Are you suing the federal government?
	I think you saw in New York Times tonight is pushing for a release of all the underlying documents in your case.
	Are you in favor of that?
	Absolutely.
	And actually, one of the articles that's mentioned in the House Intelligence memo from Friday, it references one article.
	And actually, that was rebroadcast by a state propaganda agency in Washington.
	Broadcasting Board of Governors funds Radio Free Europe.
	And for the last 70 years, most of its history, it was supposed to be used for offering ideas to countries around the world.
	They changed the law in 2013.
	And now they can push government propaganda in the U.S. So this was the first election where that ever happened.
	And actually that's run by State Department.
	It's the Broadcasting Board of Governors, but they put that Yahoo News story out.
	But you're suing the Broadcasting Board of Governors and who else?
	Very quickly.
	Oath, Inc., which is the parent company for Yahoo and Huffington Post, which has a ton of articles.
	Okay, let's unpack this.
	In 2013, as part of the National Defense Authorization Act, the Smith-Mund Act was repealed, which meant that the Broadcast Board of Governors, who were desperate to use new media to propagate...
	We actually do this stuff.
	We accuse Russia of it, but we do it too with Voice of America, Voice for Europe.
	We have it all over the world, and we also do it online.
	That's why it had to be repealed, because once it's on the Internet, you cannot do what the Smith-Month Act stated, which is you cannot propagandize the American people.
	And he's saying that it was the broadcast board of governors who were propagandizing this bullcrap article from Yahoo!
	Oh, interesting.
	And he's suing the Broadcast Board of Governors.
	Oath, Inc., by the way, which he mentioned, I had no idea what was going on with this.
	Oath, Inc.
	is a subsidiary of Verizon, but they own Huffington Post, they own Yahoo, they own AOL. Let me get their page here for a second.
	Oath.com.
	Brands that people love.
	Here we go.
	Their brands are Tumblr, Yahoo, TechCrunch.
	Hold on.
	Why am I getting this?
	Don't do this to me.
	Just show me your brands.
	Here we go.
	Yahoo, AOL, Yahoo Finance, HuffPo, Tumblr, AOL, Brightroll, TechCrunch, Newsroom, Verizon, Makers, Yahoo Sports, Yahoo Gemini, Engadget, Yahoo Mail, and Riot.
	And that's just the top names.
	They're pretty powerful all of a sudden.
	Yeah, they've been buying up these operations.
	And, you know, selling ads across the whole swath of them, no doubt.
	So for Carter Page to go after the Broadcast Board of Governors, I think that's thin ice.
	But either he was left out to dry, or I don't know what happened.
	I'm looking at him, I think you might be right.
	In fact, I think it's obvious.
	You may take a look at...
	Well, I also have links in the show notes to some gay sites who are outing him.
	So, I have a little bit of backup.
	Now...
	And we know Chris Stevens was gay.
	Now, if you have a...
	Yeah, they probably were good friends.
	Yes.
	But if you have...
	If they had these guys...
	If this guy's CIA... He should have some protection, unless he's been completely kicked out.
	Well, not if he was brought in by Brennan.
	So he should have some protection, but I'm wondering, you know, if he starts doing stuff that's not approved, I think he's going to lose that protection pretty quickly and get killed.
	Yes, that's what I said.
	Or hung.
	Oh, he's going to hang himself.
	It'd be a suicide.
	Yes.
	No, he'll hang.
	Self-asphyxiation, masturbation.
	Just to humiliate him a little bit.
	Yeah, that's a good one.
	Yeah, this is it.
	I think you've dug up some good stuff here.
	I'm fascinated.
	I'll fold that into a story that just came out.
	Oh, there's one thing I did want to add.
	I think it benefits him, and I think it helped him on the Laurie Ingram show.
	When I read some of his...
	There's mention of how he's now perceived as kind of a goofball and a loose cannon and an idiot.
	He's being discredited.
	There's actually one other clip I have that kind of relates to him, but certainly relates to Christopher Steele and the whole memo business, which is another thing we talked about in the previous show.
	This is Judge Napolitano on Fox, of course.
	But Steele, Chris Steele, the now former MI6, that's the British version of the CIA agent, presents a very interesting problem here.
	This is the issue.
	This is the wording in the memo that came out last week, the Republican memo, that the FBI and the DOJ fought aggressively against.
	And it's the following reference to Chris Steele as, quote, a longtime FBI asset.
	For most people, they'd say, all right, the FBI has all kinds of assets.
	He is a former British intelligence agent.
	We have an agreement with the British government, Canadian, New Zealand, Australia.
	Five eyes.
	We will exchange information.
	We will not cherry pick each other's agents.
	He apparently was cherry picked by the FBI. If this happened while he was an MI6 agent, he could be prosecuted for espionage by the British government for being a British spy at the same time he was an American spy.
	So that phrase in the memo that he was a longtime FBI asset, we know he was doing work for them.
	They were interested in his work.
	There's still, I think, some discrepancy over whether or not they were paying him, but they also say that they released him at some point.
	Yes.
	So they had some kind of relationship, whether it was monetary or not.
	I think they had a monetary relationship and at some point they decided either it wasn't credible or we can't trust you because you have become a leaker.
	And leaking classified material is a line that cannot be crossed, Mr.
	Steele, so you're no longer with us.
	Now, he left MI6 in 2009.
	This is very serious stuff.
	If before he left MI6, he was an FBI asset.
	The Justice Department and the FBI, which is not run today by the same people that were running it then, we're talking about Eric Holder and Jim Comey, has an enormous problem on its hand.
	That would explain...
	2009 is a long time ago.
	Correct.
	We're talking about the 2016 campaign.
	Correct.
	But can you prove that there was an overlap in his MI6 time and his FBI asset time?
	We don't know.
	But you know they were upset about that line in the memo?
	Yes.
	And I know that Congressman Nunes intentionally used the ambiguous phrase, long time.
	Does it go back to 2009 or before, or did it happen afterwards?
	I also know that explains the ferocity with which the FBI tried to prevent this from coming out.
	Thank you, Joe.
	Good to see you tonight.
	It was good, right?
	All right, you give me the clip of the day.
	Oh, thank you.
	I'll tell you why.
	Clip of the day.
	That clip explains most of the complaining about this memo.
	It does.
	Because everybody saw this memo and called it the Nothing Burger.
	But in fact, if that little tidbit has anything to do with anything...
	And it explains the, this will damage national security.
	Because that does damage our national security with our relationship with Five Eyes.
	Right.
	Which is what all the countries are.
	We're not supposed to be doing that, what we do with that guy.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	And, yeah, it's against the rules.
	So, huh.
	Okay, go on.
	Continue.
	I'll transition.
	Into the Russians, what the accusations are.
	And this is where words really matter.
	This was a despicable piece on NBC about the Russians hacking our election.
	Let's talk about some terms before we play this clip.
	So, hacking is just a term that I think should be outlawed.
	It's up there with glitch.
	So, if you penetrate a system, you're inside a system, there's all kinds of further information that could be given or reported on, but it's just now just hacking.
	And to Tom, Dick, and Harry...
	Oh, they hacked.
	They hacked our election, which insinuates hacking the voting machines.
	That's what the insinuation is.
	How many times have we caught representatives in Congress?
	Oh, the Russians hacked our election.
	Yeah, when you're done with this clip, I have three clips or two.
	Good.
	No, I have two clips I need to play, which are right on the same topic.
	Good, good, good, good, good.
	Good, good, good.
	So what we know is that, and we have all the reporting, and I'm sure it's in the show, you can just Bing it, bingit.co, you can find it, that there was no hacking into, there was no penetration of voting machines.
	There were port scans, which I guarantee you right now is happening to your router at home.
	It happens on all of our servers.
	You see continuous scans, which is the equivalent of casing the joint.
	Okay.
	Seeing if there's a window open.
	Is there a port open that I can get into to penetrate?
	A port scan is not hacking.
	The databases or the systems that were port scanned, and now it turns out one or two may have actually been penetrated, was the voter registration database for each of these states.
	Which really, I mean, you could create a cool mailing list, but you're not going to...
	I know.
	I know.
	Hey, I'm not sure it wasn't you.
	Through a VPN, making it look like the Ruskies.
	You know?
	We'll call you JCD Bear for short.
	But even if you do that, that's not necessarily hacking the election.
	So now we're going to hear this despicable piece with the woman who runs the cyber department of Department of Homeland Security, Jeanette Manfra, and she is going to really confuse the interviewer and the whole piece.
	With a new piece of information that solidifies there was no hacking of our election whatsoever.
	Tonight, a senior intelligence official with direct knowledge of the top-secret report says several states had their voting registration system successfully compromised.
	Now, they say it up front, so that's truthful.
	I don't know if they were successfully compromised, but just the database of the voters.
	By the Russian government.
	This after U.S. officials had previously revealed 21...
	And you know what, we're...
	More nitpicking about stuff.
	The Russian government, I mean, we have, what, the Kremlin was sitting there on an SSH connection?
	You know, it could have been hackers or people who were working for the government.
	You say something other than just the Russian government, please.
	Several states had their voting registration system successfully compromised by the Russian government.
	This after U.S. officials had previously revealed 21 states were targeted.
	We asked Homeland Security's Chief of Cybersecurity, Jeanette Manfra, about that secret document.
	And I can't talk about classified information publicly.
	We saw targeting of 21 states, and an exceptionally small number of that 21 were actually successfully penetrated.
	The fear Russia would remove voters' names from the rolls, creating chaos.
	Really?
	That is now the story.
	The Russians tried to remove names from the database to create chaos.
	Let me tell you.
	I voted here in Austin.
	I saw plenty of people who weren't in the database.
	You show a driver's license.
	You show something with your address.
	You're good to go.
	You vote.
	Right, this happened to me a number of years ago.
	It's total bullshit.
	Potentially swinging the election.
	Swinging the election.
	How can you even say this?
	We were able to determine that the scanning and probing of...
	This is, what's his face?
	Jay Johnson.
	Voter registration databases was coming from the Russian government.
	Oh, he said the scanning.
	Okay.
	Jay Johnson was DHS secretary when these Russian intrusions were taking place.
	U.S. intelligence knew by the summer of 2016 the hacking originated from Russia.
	Hacking.
	Two months later, they told the public.
	It turned out voters' names were not removed in 2016.
	But what about this year?
	My worry is that since that time, a lot of states have done little to nothing to actually harden their cyber security.
	I would not agree with that assessment.
	I would say they have all taken it very seriously.
	NBC News reached out to those 21 states.
	California and Texas, among others, say their voter system was never attacked.
	I stand by the list.
	This was a snapshot in time with visibility that the department had at the time.
	But now, with nine months to go before critical midterm elections, what's being done to secure the vote?
	DHS is offering cybersecurity help, but some states tell us they're still waiting.
	Is there a waiting list for DHS help in the election?
	No.
	There's no waiting list.
	No waiting list.
	No waiting list.
	But some states question whether the federal government should be involved at all.
	What do you say to the states who say, we're fine, we're good, thanks a lot, see ya.
	And I say you're being naive and irresponsible to the people that you're supposed to serve.
	2016 was the wake-up call, and now it's incumbent upon states and the feds to do something about it before our democracy is attacked again.
	Many of the states complained to us that the federal government did not provide them with specific threat details saying that information was classified and state officials did not have proper clearances.
	While DHS Assistant Secretary Manfred tells us those clearances are now being processed.
	I have a different take on this, but give me your takeaway first.
	Well, all I'm hearing is Russia, huge threat, they're going to hack the midterm elections.
	And we're not ready for it.
	And the second layer of this is that the Trump administration are incompetent because there's this classified information and these guys haven't even got clearance so they don't know how they can fix it.
	And you have a spokesperson, Jed Johnson, in there who's got nothing, he's not even in business anymore so why is he doing this?
	This whole thing Was planted by the intelligence people.
	You had Cynthia McFadden as the main reporter, who's very unusual on NBC. She's the 2020 woman, and she doesn't do this sort of thing on the nightly news, but she did this one.
	And I want to play, from my perspective, and this may help your overall argument, the operative clip.
	Because I don't have to play the clip that I wanted to play, because you played the exact same clip from beginning to end.
	Oh, okay.
	But you don't have this ISO, which I want to elaborate on.
	Top secret reports.
	Tonight, a senior intelligence official with direct knowledge of the top secret report says several states had their voting registration system successfully compromised by the Russian government.
	Okay.
	So that's where they got their information supposedly.
	Now I want to go back to 2013 and I want to go to Thomas Drake's speech to the National Press Club on talking to the media and I want you to consider this when you consider the report you just played.
	You mentioned that former colleagues said to you that they believe talking to reporters is a crime.
	Do you believe that that attitude is pervasive among government employees and maybe you could address it inside and outside of the intelligence community?
	It is true that in the intelligence community, of which I was a part for many, many years, both as a government employee and as a contractor, and even in the military, that you do sign secrecy agreements.
	And these vary based on the agency.
	The secrecy agreement that I signed was to protect the agreement, what they call protected information, which by definition was classified, truly classified, or under classification review.
	It was actually carefully articulated in terms of executive statutes and rules.
	There was this misunderstanding that if you happen to speak to a reporter, that by definition anything that you might say to them could be characterized as classified.
	Because you, unless it was authorized, then you were in an unauthorized status.
	And therefore, you are liable under administrative rules.
	You may have heard very recently that James Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence, is now directing, adding a question, questions, to the polygraph mechanism in which individuals are either going to be And so,
	yes, I had individuals that I used to work with who assumed that it was criminal under the U.S. law to have any contact whatsoever with a reporter.
	In fact, I was even asked that question by Scott Pelley on 60 Minutes a couple years ago.
	It's not a crime to speak with a reporter.
	There are certain administrative rules Now, let's go play that ISO one more time.
	Okay.
	Tonight, a senior intelligence official with direct knowledge of the top secret report says several states had their voting registration system successfully compromised by the Russian government.
	Poor gal.
	The guy did it on orders.
	This is the joke of these.
	I do not believe anything.
	This whole thing was done by the orders of someone up the top saying, here, give her this information, tell her it's top secret, and then tell her how to handle it because she has to protect you.
	There's no way that NBC, especially Cynthia McFadden or anybody else there, is getting top-secret information to report on because these people are taking polygraph tests so they can't even talk to the media.
	You nailed it.
	So anytime you hear this, this is a bogus report.
	They're not reporting on anything.
	Right.
	And anytime you hear that this was a, you heard from a source, it's just an approved message is the takeaway.
	This is an approved message designed to get the, this whole, this could, a whole thing could have been written by the CIA for all we know.
	It's a bogus story.
	And you're right, your analysis of it just shows how bogus it is.
	Yeah.
	Unreal.
	So we cannot trust the media.
	No.
	Which is why we're here.
	And before we go into the D-Block, one of our producers, who I'm going to keep anonymous for now, I think that's probably what she wants, works at a very large advertising agency and is putting together reports for us on the new advertising trends that Oh, nice.
	Yeah, that's what I said.
	Here's some trends.
	The big word coming up in advertising is going to be authenticity.
	Authenticity.
	Not small batch?
	Nope, nope.
	Millennials have been reportedly scared of doorbells being tracked and other paranoid tendencies.
	Social media international court is holding sway over business success, much like the way they do most everything now.
	So, reality check.
	Who?
	This is the actual report.
	Who should care?
	Big ticket products and younger audience brands.
	In a nutshell, hyper-connected, socially informed, and knowledge-driven, today's consumers are deeply suspicious of being sold to.
	The days of crafted messages and image are over.
	Now, image is suspected to be photoshopped and filtered as messages are spun and scripted to be far from the truth.
	87% of consumers feel that it's important for brands to, quote, act with integrity at all times, ranking authentic value above innovation and product uniqueness.
	They want brands to have authentic value.
	This means more than just being hashtag unfiltered.
	It's a genuine guarantee of reliability and trustworthiness.
	Sounds like she's talking about us.
	You know, I was actually contemplating not reading this and just slipping in the words how authentic we are to see if it works.
	But I decided against it.
	I think you would be on to me.
	Like, what are you saying that word for all of a sudden?
	Yes, I would be.
	Totally.
	Here's the conversation.
	Never before have brands faced such scrutiny in the form of customer reviews on social media as they do today.
	It's also worth mentioning that 83% of consumers say that they like it when a brand responds to them on social media.
	Hmm.
	Ways that brands can show their value.
	I love it how they believe a brand is actually responding.
	A brand.
	It's a person.
	But okay, it's a brand.
	Ways that brands can show their value through customer reviews are by sharing interesting and useful information, responding to questions quickly, acknowledging advice, and being personal in their outreach.
	That's when you block people.
	That's personal.
	For example, a brand could host a feedback day on their social media once a week to get feedback on specific topics.
	And ignore it.
	Yes, even if all they do is host the conversation, being specific will make the consumer feel like they're really being listened to.
	So, authenticity and listening to, those are the big things.
	And I agree.
	It sounds very much like us, doesn't it?
	Yeah, well, we fell into it because we're pushed around by our audience in some funny way.
	Not in terms of content, but in terms of, you know, going along with douchebag and all these other things that other people would listen to and go, why are they calling their listeners douchebags?
	Exactly.
	And we're authentic.
	Because we talk exactly this way with each other whether the mic's on or not.
	Right.
	Which is a style of broadcasting.
	Yeah, well no it's not.
	And if you can fake it, you've got it made.
	There's no broadcaster who does our style because they're fired.
	I'm going to show my soul by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fun.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	And, of course, we can't get fired.
	We would just run out of money on our own because people would stop contributing.
	Yes.
	But they're contributing here today, and I want to thank a few of them, including Thomas Hitholler.
	He says, when they felt the need to donate again, provide a little more value for value.
	It's my favorite podcast.
	And we give him some karma at the end at $160.60.
	Gerald Preston, $160.
	Oh, by the way, Thomas appears to be in, I guess it's Austria, I think.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I would say it's Austria.
	Gerald Preston, $160.16, parts unknown.
	Dennis Sir Media Filter, $150.
	Please deduce.
	He needs a dedouching.
	Let's get into that.
	You've been dedouched.
	Bruce Schwalm in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, $123.45.
	That came in as a check.
	Anonymous, $111.11.
	Sir DVM Healer of Pets, Baron of Southwest Michigan in Battle Creek, $100.60.
	This is our fabulous promotion for this show, which is $100.60.
	We have one, two, three, four takers.
	The third taker is Lee Scarbeck in Springfield, Pennsylvania.
	Did you get the anonymous donation?
	Yeah.
	Did you read the note?
	$11.11.
	Did you read the note?
	No.
	Oh.
	This donation will take me to knighthood.
	I would like to be known as Sir Neatman, the Knight of Napa, requesting kebab and Persian wine at the round table.
	Love from Napa.
	P.S. Persian wine because they made wine 7,000 years ago.
	That's at least 4,000 years before the French started making wine.
	Speaking about cultural appropriation avant la lettre.
	Good point.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's a great point.
	Yeah, put some grapes in a bucket and all of a sudden you got wine.
	What an invention.
	Wow.
	I'm butt hurt over it.
	No, I'm just saying.
	I mean, come on.
	Are they still making good wine in Iran?
	They probably make some wine.
	They make some wine in Lebanon that you can drink.
	I have no idea.
	Sir Joel Blazik.
	Well, if they do, I'd like to get some.
	Sir Joel Blazik in Reno, $100.60, and he'll be our last guy.
	Simon Alicia, $100 in Australia.
	A little note to you.
	Keep it the great work investigating the Hawaii missile alarm.
	I got a lot of those.
	Hey, man, this is great stuff.
	Don't listen to JCD, man.
	Russell Rhodes, 6789.
	Henry...
	By the way, it's got to be the monitor, not the spreadsheet, because it's still slightly dark.
	It's Reese in Portland, Oregon, 5555.
	Benjamin Shirky, 5110.
	Sir, pain in the ass in Richmond, Virginia.
	You know who you are, 5432.
	Michael Gates, 5280.
	Because I now have Excel running on this machine.
	Ah, very good.
	Yes.
	So it is the VGA monitor.
	I was right.
	Yes, the VGA monitor.
	John Tennis in West Lynn, Oregon, which I think, I don't know, 5125, I thought he donated recently, but maybe he donated it again.
	John Berryhill in Loretto, Tennessee, 5033, and the following people are $50 donors, starting with, name and location, starting with Sir Eric, V.M., Baronet of the Valley in Van Nuys, California.
	We know what valley you're talking about.
	Scott Floyd in Clayton, California, out here in the west, east Contra Costa County.
	Andrew Denton in San Diego, California.
	David Schlesinger in Rosemont, Illinois.
	Tim Abel, or Abel, I bet, in Berkfield, Berkshire, UK. Edward Mazurik in Memphis, Tennessee.
	Jonathan Meyer in Xenia, Ohio.
	Larry Hay in Mooresville, North Carolina.
	I think he sent me a note about accents there, too, by the way.
	Todd Moore in Arlington, Virginia.
	I'm going to talk about that more in the next show, the accents.
	And finally, last but not least, Jason Deluzio in Chadsford, Pennsylvania.
	These are all the people that helped us produce show 1006 and hopefully...
	We'll do a little better on the next show, but it's a good group.
	We want to thank them all.
	Yeah, and also thanking everybody who came in.
	Under $50 for reasons of anonymity, and they're also on the subscriptions.
	Appreciate that.
	Benjamin Shirky, who came in with $55.10, double nickels on the dime, so he has a birthday call-out, so I added that to the list.
	Before you do that, I do want to mention that I'm going to mention the number of some of these...
	Some of these promotions don't work, as you notice, over the years.
	The last few have not worked so well.
	So this one, I know everyone could afford a $10.06 donation to celebrate show 1006.
	Also the Supernova 1006 that took place on May 1st.
	The year 1006.
	And we had a grand total.
	Because $10.
	I mean, anyone could afford that, right?
	You'd think.
	Yeah, it was three.
	Three people came in with $10.06.
	So it was less than I expected.
	Well, the way the system works is very simple.
	We give you the value of the show.
	We put it out there.
	You can do pretty much anything you want with it.
	And all we ask for is that you consider returning some value in kind.
	And by the way, I want to mention that you don't have to have a PayPal account when you go over to the PayPal site.
	They take credit cards and run it.
	It's also a credit card processing company.
	I don't know if people realize it.
	Some people I think...
	What are you saying?
	Well, a lot of people I think they see, well, it's a PayPal link.
	I don't have a PayPal account, so I can't give them any money.
	Ah, okay.
	I honestly believe there is a misconception.
	Yeah, well, I'm sure you're right.
	Maybe you should make that a little more clear?
	I made it very clear in a newsletter recently.
	I've made a whole topic out of it.
	Put a little MasterCard Visa logo next to your link?
	No, I'm not doing that.
	The links are right in the flow of whatever I'm writing about.
	A little diner's card logo, perhaps.
	I bet you still have one.
	It's a long story about diner's cards.
	You have a diner's card, don't you?
	No, I don't.
	We don't.
	It's a long story.
	I do not have one.
	I use American Express.
	Ooh!
	Don't leave home without it.
	All right, everybody.
	Thank you very much.
	We do another show on Sunday.
	It's very important that you support us.
	If you find the value in the program and the reporting, we're certainly working hard for you.
	And you can find information about that at dvorak.org slash n-a.
	For all who need it, some specialized karmas.
	Jobs.
	Jobs.
	And jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Go!
	You've got karma.
	You've got karma.
	Ryan Sturko says happy birthday to his smoke and hot wife Sherry.
	She turned 40 on January 30th.
	Benjamin Shirky, better known as Sir Man on the Mount, says happy birthday to Dame It.
	She celebrated her birthday yesterday, February 7th.
	And on the horizon, we have Tim White saying...
	Happy birthday to his wife.
	She would have been 47 today, and we appreciate the call-out she received there.
	Mike Newman, happy birthday to Sir Michael of Third World Southeast Asia, celebrated on the 5th.
	Russell Rhodes says happy birthday to his son, Vikram.
	He turns 8 years old today, and it's never too soon to get him started on the No Agenda show.
	And happy birthday from Uncle Adam and Uncle John!
	It's your birthday!
	And of course, I should have read the errata before we went into that segment because there may be a birthday mist, which we'll move it to the next show if that's true.
	I have a make good?
	I have a bunch too, so I'm going to read after you're done.
	Yeah, this is, uh, I just congratulated his wife.
	Ryan Sterko said, my wife and I love the show!
	We are forever grateful for my uncle who introduced us to the show during the 2016 election while he was visiting for Thanksgiving.
	Can you imagine that at Thanksgiving?
	Your wackadoodle uncle starts talking about the guys?
	That being said, I haven't heard his name come up during the donation segment, so he needs to be called out!
	Same goes for my brother and wife!
	They're all douchebags, unless, of course, they donate less than $50 for reasons of anonymity.
	If this is the case, then please accept my sincerest apologies and keep up the good work.
	Anyway, thanks to you guys and all of the producers for the hard work in making this the best podcast in the universe and keeping my amygdala at a healthy size.
	NJNK. Thank you, Ryan.
	I got a note from Robert Clayson, just a bit behind listening to the shows as usual, and I just heard that you approved the night name Surreal to a new night.
	I have to commit.
	I think you read this note last show, I think?
	Yes, I did.
	I said the issue and the peerage committee was going to...
	It's in abeyance right now.
	We're being discussed.
	Ryan Sterko made a donation several shows ago.
	I just read his note.
	Oh, that's what you just did.
	Because I'm plowing through...
	Sorry, I'm reading through these.
	It's okay.
	You're plowing through it.
	By the way, if you're going to send these notes, send just one of us.
	Oh, good luck with that.
	Yeah, it doesn't work, I know.
	Okay, here's an anonymous note.
	Let me read this.
	Anonymous.
	No, there's too many notes.
	Too many notes.
	You may want to read this for the show and figure out what you guys want to do.
	I donated $500 for our 10th anniversary episode on the producer credits.
	My name is not mentioned in the Dame Knight credits.
	No, it wasn't mentioned during the super long knighting ceremony.
	I went back and listened to the related shows again to find the links and clips for my evidence.
	I hate to put a burden on you, but because I know what you do, it's time to clear it up.
	Okay, so do we need to knight him?
	I'm trying to decide.
	I don't want to spam.
	Just a long note.
	If I'm going to be a black knight, he wants to be Sir Sean Black Knight of the dude's name Ben.
	Just add him.
	And what's his real name?
	His real name is Anonymous.
	Okay, so we have two anonymous today.
	Yes, we have.
	Well, who's the other anonymous one?
	Sir Neatman.
	Oh, here's another one from Ryan.
	I made this donation several shows ago.
	This is the one I think that got lost in the shuffle.
	I haven't heard it mentioned yet.
	Not sure what it takes to get a call out, but I assumed a donation at 321 couldn't hurt my cause.
	No, we should have been on the list.
	We had a bad one show that you got bumped.
	I didn't donate frequently, and therefore my lack of experience probably led up to this mix-up.
	If you get this message, please let me know what specifically I can do differently next time.
	Nothing.
	You did the right thing.
	Did he have jingles or something he wanted played?
	Well, he didn't put it on here, but we're going to make him an executive producer for this show.
	Ah, okay.
	Well, let me put that on.
	Ryan Sterko.
	And then he did the...
	Well, here, no, he does.
	How many notes did Ryan send?
	No, he sent a copy of the PayPal note, which has his note.
	Right, but he's...
	Oh, jeez.
	Well, that was the make good.
	It was an error, so he sends me the error message.
	I know, I know, but I just read a make good, and now there's another second make good.
	Is this from Sturko?
	Yes!
	Well, he says NJNK, so what the reason is.
	No, it doesn't make any difference.
	I'm just...
	He's cursed!
	No, he got into the vortex.
	This happens to a guy every once in a while.
	I've talked about this before.
	Yes, it's the vortex.
	It's the vortex, I agree.
	Now, we have two knightings to do then, so if I can have your sword, please.
	Hold on.
	I've got one more.
	Trelawney Kelly.
	Trelawney.
	I sent you guys $100 via PayPal for Show 1000.
	Just listened.
	And in case I missed it, he didn't catch my name.
	This is one of the mix-ups from Show 1000.
	This is Trelawney Curley from Waikiki in Western Australia, just south of Perth.
	Your place.
	I humbly request a de-douching and some divorce jobs karma.
	We'll give you the de-douching right now.
	You've been de-douched.
	Here's some karma.
	No problem.
	You've got karma.
	Okay, that's your divorce karma.
	There you go.
	Divorce karma.
	Caught up.
	Yes.
	All good.
	Now, where's your blade?
	This one's heavy.
	Hold on a second.
	It's on the floor.
	Oh, jeez.
	Next to your keyboard, no doubt.
	No.
	Oh, damn it.
	Hold on a second.
	Oh, there it is.
	I got it.
	Okay.
	Very good.
	Hello, Anonymous and Anonymous, both of you.
	Head on the podium here.
	You are about to join the very elite and exclusive club known as the No Agenda Roundtable of our Knights and Dames.
	And I'm going to pronounce the KV with the following.
	You are Sir Neatman, the Knight of Napa, and Sir Sean Black, Knight of the Dude's Name, Ben.
	Gentlemen, welcome to the roundtable for you.
	We have, by request, kebab and Persian wine.
	We've got brisket and barrel aged copper ale.
	We've got pinball and power cords.
	Goat Chops and Goat Milk, Polish Potato, Vodka, Diet, Soda, and Video Games, Breast Milk and Pablin, Cowgirls and Coffin Varnish, Bong Hits and Bourbon, Ginger Ale and Gerbils, Sparkling Cider and Escorts, and Mutton and Mead.
	Both of you Anonomi, now Knights, can head on over to knowageinthenation.com slash rings.
	Eric the Shield will gladly hook you up with your rings and your accreditation, etc.
	Just give him the information he needs, which includes your ring size.
	Funny how that works.
	All right.
	Let me just see.
	Hey, is there an asparagus council?
	I'd be stunned if there wasn't.
	Well, somebody didn't do a media spend.
	Somebody's got these contradictory articles about asparagus.
	It's going to No, it's the best thing you can have.
	Yeah, so this is an article from last year, 10 Reasons Why You Should Eat More Asparagus, and it starts off with, the spring veggie boasts a long list of health benefits.
	Yeah, because you know how I feel about that.
	Yeah, it's about veggie, of course.
	So it's fabulous, fabulous to eat asparagus, but then they didn't pay the bill, and this year, spread of breast cancer linked to compound in asparagus.
	Yeah.
	You're going to get breast cancer from eating asparagus.
	Unless they pay the bill.
	Yeah, then it goes the other way.
	Yeah.
	Found to be wrong.
	Yeah.
	Troubling.
	No threat.
	I've been observing for quite a while the lack of children amongst our young population.
	Yeah.
	And dogs seem to be the way to go.
	Last night, let me ask you a question about this.
	We went to the restaurant in our building.
	Yeah, we went to the restaurant in our building, which I don't want to mention because everyone will know my building, but you know which one I'm talking about.
	Yeah.
	And it has good food, and particularly if you just bop in and you don't do full wine and everything, you just have a meal.
	And it's kind of set up that way, kind of like a French bistro, really.
	Then it's reasonably affordable, just for the two of us.
	And we're sitting there and it's already, you know, the way they do it is just like the French with, you know, small tables just for two, you know, all in a row.
	So you kind of have three conversations going on at the same time.
	You're hearing your neighbors and you have your own conversation.
	And then a woman walks in with a dog in her arms and just, you know, has dinner.
	I don't think this is okay.
	Well, it's very French.
	The French have dogs in their restaurants.
	Really?
	But that's on the plate.
	That's what they serve you.
	But I mean living dogs that people bring in as their pets.
	Yeah, that's not uncommon.
	I don't think it's okay.
	I know, you hate dogs.
	I don't blame you.
	I don't hate dogs.
	One story after another, you hating on dogs.
	I mean, it seems to me I add up two and two, dog hater.
	I'm not a dog hater.
	I've had many dogs.
	Okay.
	But, you know, your dog belongs, doesn't belong in the restaurant.
	It was like, would I bring my kid into the restaurant and that baby?
	I've done it.
	Well, I don't know.
	I've never brought a dog to a restaurant.
	I don't think that's appropriate.
	I agree with you.
	But I've seen people in a lot of French restaurants in this country, and in France, but in this country, do you see a guy with a dog, and the dog is usually calm and sitting there.
	It's like one of the better dogs, well-behaved dogs.
	I had no problem with the dog, but does that mean I can bring my German Shepherd in, or is there a size limitation?
	Can I just have the dog lying next to me, and I'd like to know what the policy is then?
	Ask him.
	Why are you talking to me about it?
	Believe me, I'm going to ask.
	Well, because we're on the topic of dogs, that people are accumulating dogs instead of children.
	Wait a minute.
	We're not on the topic of this.
	You started it by saying that.
	That's what I said.
	I was on the topic of that, and that's how I came back to the dog in the restaurant.
	It was a little sidetrack.
	He was wee.
	Okay, I'm...
	By the way, I'm in agreement with you in general.
	I don't like people bringing...
	Especially if they're holding the dog.
	Because then they're feeding him a little bit.
	Yeah, that's exactly what she was doing.
	Holding the dog at the table.
	Yes, holding the dog at the table.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's like eating with the dog as it's...
	And the reason I say kids is because, you know, they're now treating them like children.
	But anyway, the New York Times...
	This is new?
	A lot more are treating them like children.
	A lot more.
	A lot more.
	And it's obsessive and it's sick.
	And I just wanted to read this one thing.
	The New York Times has done investigation.
	And what the millennials are saying is we don't want to have children because it's the best thing you can do to save the planet.
	Yes.
	I understand this is a huge problem.
	Because of climate change.
	Yeah, right.
	Yeah.
	How can you be suckered into taking this approach?
	This is just, let's see how stupid, you know, let's get these people not to reproduce anymore, and then we can, like, just take over the place.
	Yeah.
	Add this to the list.
	Look how dumb they are.
	They shouldn't be reproducing anyway.
	Here's the way I see it.
	You shouldn't be reproducing anywhere if you're so stupid to believe this propaganda.
	Among them, there's a sense of being saddled with painful ethical questions that previous generations did not have to confront.
	Some worry about the quality of life children born today will have as shorelines flood, wildfires rage, and extreme weather becomes more common.
	Others are acutely aware that having a child is one of the costliest actions they can take environmentally.
	Let me take a look out the window.
	The birth rate in the United States, which has been falling for a decade, reached a new low in 2016.
	Yeah, it's actually negative in California, except for the Latin community.
	How long does it take for the birth rate to be, you know, minus 1.8 for the population to start dying off?
	I think about three generations, and then you're fucked.
	Yeah.
	Oh, good.
	Well, I don't care.
	Our kids won't feel it either.
	Yeah, Theodorable.
	Theodorable's gonna eat it.
	Theodorable's dead man walking right there.
	Okay.
	Excellent.
	He'll be the one that moves out of California, probably.
	Or gets thrown out.
	You know, the filters are in full force everywhere.
	Filters on the internet.
	And I got a note from one of our producers who works in the Irish Parliament Building.
	We have the greatest producers.
	And he was doing some surfing, as you do when you're working in government.
	You won't actually work.
	And he tried to access the site ufodisclosure.com because he's been hearing a lot about it recently.
	It's pretty old.
	But he went to go to that site and he got a block.
	Web page blocked.
	Now, here's the message.
	ufodisclosures.com, that's the URL. This page is blocked due to a security policy that prohibits access to, quote, alternative beliefs.
	What's alternative beliefs?
	Is like UFOlogy a belief system?
	I know, but it's a category because it actually says URL colon UFOdisclosure.com, client IP, server IP, category colon alternative beliefs.
	What about Protestant?
	If it's a Catholic country, if you go to...
	You're talking about Ireland, not Northern Ireland?
	So you can't go to a website that's produced by the Lutherans?
	It's an alternative belief.
	I guess.
	I guess.
	So I just wanted to point that out as a very disturbing trend.
	But the best...
	There's your net neutrality right there in a nutshell.
	That's net neutrality for you people.
	But the best...
	That's a good point.
	The best is Theresa May.
	Who is calling for a new legal crackdown on the abuse of politicians and other public figures on social media, stating that online bullying has now become a growing threat to democracy.
	How's that work?
	The Prime Minister said that social media platforms such as FaceBag and Twitter have become, quote, places of intimidation and abuse for public figures.
	Get off Facebook!
	And said that new laws were now needed to make sure, quote, what is illegal offline is illegal online.
	Yeah, there's your net neutrality part two.
	In a major speech to mark the centenary of women's suffrage in the UK, May said the Law Commission would look at which new laws were needed to crack down on offensive online communications.
	So that will only be for politicians.
	You want to call out a podcaster?
	No problem.
	You want to call out a Kardashian?
	No problem.
	They truly are lifting themselves above the population now.
	Yeah, a bunch of elite jerks.
	And the Brits love you guys, but you're just taking it up the butt.
	And you should consider stopping them from doing that.
	Yeah, there's a thought.
	Yeah, just stop.
	Stop them.
	Stop that.
	Doesn't the Magna Carta say, you know, free speech?
	The Magna Carta is out.
	It's older than our constitution.
	That's how out it is.
	Yeah, it's done.
	Hey, I heard a weird...
	Here's a couple of weird clips.
	How are we doing?
	Yeah, we got about 10 minutes.
	Okay, let's do a couple of these clips.
	Can I do the Trudeau one just for people who hadn't heard it?
	Yes, please.
	I'm Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau embracing political correctness by quickly correcting a young woman simply for using the term mankind.
	The love that's going to change the future of mankind.
	So we'd like you to...
	We like to say people kind, not necessarily mankind.
	It's more inclusive.
	There we go, exactly.
	A woman was asking Trudeau to make it easier for religious charitable organizations to provide help for those in need.
	People, people kind.
	As he mansplains to her, you can't win.
	You just can't win.
	We can't win if you're a douchebag like that guy.
	Yeah, but do you know how many people are douchebags like this now?
	Who really think that that's great?
	Yeah, everybody that's not listening to this show.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Yes, correct.
	I just want to get this one quickie out of the way, which is this Tillerson versus the Russians clip, which was only played on one of the networks.
	And I still think it's important, so I wanted to play it.
	Thank you.
	Meantime, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson tonight warning that Russia is already trying to influence the midterm elections and that the U.S. is ill-equipped to stop them.
	In an interview, Tillerson saying the U.S. must continue to make it clear that if they do not stop, they will, quote, invite consequences.
	Ooh!
	Them fighting words!
	Yeah, I don't know what he's talking about.
	We discussed it earlier in the show.
	The bull crap is what this is all about.
	I have something that I moved from last show.
	I wanted to move it in because I think you might be interested in hearing this.
	Because I don't think they're talking about you.
	This is from a sports talk show called Jalen and Jacoby.
	Mm-hmm.
	Play it.
	Rob Interview Series produced by David Jacoby and the Podfather Incorporated.
	The Podfather.
	And CJ McComb's name has been brought up as the trade deadline looms.
	And you know what happens if you get jammed up.
	Don't mention my name.
	Nah, it's really disappointing.
	You really harsh my mellow with this.
	It was bad enough when Ricky Gervais called himself the Podfather, then Adam Carolla took the fucking moniker.
	I'm sorry, I'm F-bombing a lot today.
	That was the first one I noticed.
	Okay.
	And now, who are these Jamokes?
	Jalen Jamoki?
	Well, I would like everyone who knows these Jamokes to go set them straight.
	Yes, Jalen was a basketball analyst, an NBA player, and this guy, Jacoby, who's just a jock sniffer, as far as I know, who likes to do sports shows.
	They don't even know that Steph Curry is my brother.
	From another one.
	I want to get this old clip, by the way.
	This is the Disneyland off with their heads clip, which talked about the missing heads on the Disney characters in this place.
	Too fine.
	This was at Disney's California Adventure on the Little Mermaid ride.
	The animatronic Ursula terrified riders after her head fell off.
	This is my accident.
	You can see it hanging on cables and then on Disneyland's Pirates of the Caribbean ride, the auctioneer was seen with his head also hanging by some threads.
	The site really upset several ride-goers, especially the younger ones like that.
	It was supposed to be a fun experience and the kids are traumatized.
	Therapists are outside handing out cards when they get off the ride.
	Geez, wasn't that funny?
	Local news.
	Yeah, well, I'll play one here.
	This is Mike Pompeo, our current director of the Catholics in Action on, well, just categorizing certain groups.
	Some of these threats that are real, one of them you mentioned, Al-Qaeda, aren't nation-states.
	So historically, the threats to the United States and your...
	I'm looking around the room to see how old everybody is.
	Your history books would have all reflected threats from countries.
	What was America doing against the threat from Yugoslavia or some other nation state?
	Today, the threats are much more varied than that.
	Whether it's threats from groups like Hezbollah or Al-Qaeda, threats to our information systems from groups like WikiLeaks.
	They don't have a flag at the UN. Oh, yeah.
	And they present real threats.
	Yeah, WikiLeaks is just like Al-Qaeda and ISIS. What?
	And Hamas.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Holy mackerel, I'm giving you another clip of the day.
	I have to say, I wasn't expecting it, but when I heard the clip again, I'm like, hell yeah!
	Clip of the day.
	That's right, everybody.
	Just like Hamas and Al-Qaeda.
	That is your WikiLeaks.
	Yeah, it's a threat.
	How is it a threat?
	It's a huge threat.
	Threat to our democracy, my friend.
	Just like hacking our election.
	Here's, I got one.
	This is a little offbeat.
	This will be the last one, so it better be good.
	Okay, good.
	Well, none of them are good.
	If you want something good, I'll play you the 1941 spam commercial that used to be on the radio.
	When you listen to the radio, they used to embed the commercials, which you're going to have to do again.
	And this would be what you'd hear.
	It's Monday night, and time for Burns and Allen's.
	And when the kitchen clock warns, hurry up, Mother.
	Time for the youngsters to come running home.
	Take it easy and solve the school lunch problem with Spam.
	S-P-A-M. Spam is that delicious meat originated and made only by Hormel.
	It's packed in a handy can, all ready to eat as soon as it's open.
	No fuss, no bother.
	Just cut off slices of this taste-tempting meat, put between slices of buttered bread, and say to the hungry youngsters, have a Spamwich.
	A perfect combination of sweet, juicy pork shoulder and tender ham, Spam has an extra goodness and meaty flavor all its own.
	Youngsters go for Spam in a big way.
	Try Spam tomorrow.
	When you see the easy recipes on the label, you'll discover you can serve Spam cold or hot.
	It's America's popular mealtime aid.
	So ask your food dealer for SPAM Spam.
	It's good to be reminded of it once in a while, isn't it?
	Oh, yeah.
	Very good.
	I like that.
	Very nice.
	That's right, everybody.
	It's spelled S-P-A-M. Have a nice Spamwich.
	And we will return with more Spam for your witch.
	On Sunday, with 1007 of the best podcasts in the universe, please remember us at thevorak.org slash na.
	It's the fuel for the engine that keeps us running.
	It's very important.
	It's your show, after all.
	Yes, it is.
	Until then, coming to you from downtown Austin, Tejas, where all of Texas sends it homeless, TV Region 6 on the governmental maps in the 5x9 Commonwealth condo in the Cludio.
	Well, the Cludio's 5x9.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, the nation's hot spot.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We return on Sunday right here on No Agenda.
	Until then, as always, my friends, adios, mofos.
	Goodbye, love.
	I'm sorry.
	Goodbye, love.
	This science thing, I was such a new-hoo-hoo.
	I logged into my favorite YouTube-hoo-hoo.
	Some cow was laying down, some heavy falcon, livestream SpaceX.
	Then the stream, it did seem to fade, came back an image on a wave of phase.
	There was no bullet, there was a cosmic plane.
	There's a star man, driving through the sky.
	He'd tell us that the Earth's flat, but he thinks he'll pull our minds.
	There's a star man, driving through the sky.
	He says he sees a flat plane, and the thought is just a lie, he's all red.
	Yes, we live on a disc, and Kepler's full of shit.
	I think a big thief would be one of our producers to do the song Born Gay and then go, in the model of Born Free.
	Born Gay looks like you're a ho-lo.
	We know from the algo that reads your Twitter feed.
	All day, we need your compliance. .
	Can't argue with science.
	We know what you are.
	Stay gay.
	The owl goes beside you.
	Oh, you're into guys, but there's nowhere to hide.
	Oh, you're gay, and you'll never find her.
	So why not try Grindr?
	It's your born game A is for Amygdala, which you don't want to swell.
	From all the bad news, it will make you unwell.
	A is for artwork that makes Adam proud.
	A is for aircraft where pets aren't allowed.
	B is the dimension you don't want to be, full of bigotry and bias and run by bullies.
	B is for Bingit, for blockchain on the bottom.
	And the bug that breaks Bitcoin will make it worth nothing.
	C is for Clinton, for Comey, collusion with the CIA-run CBS to cause us confusion, and CNN, ABC and CNBC push climate change and sell crap to you and to me.
	D is for dames and the dukes of our nation, so don't be a douchebag and make a donation.
	E's for exciting stories by John about trains and emotional support animals that travel on planes.
	F is for facebag, fag news and feminists, who flail their fists in the faces of fascists.
	F is for false flags and for FISA warrants, and the way they're obtained was completely abhorrent.
	G is for Gitmo, where we live ever after, so give to our show to get some goat karma.
	H is for ham radio, for boys and for girls.
	When the apocalypse comes, they'll be saving the world.
	H is for hate, for Hillary hysteria.
	And if you're not with her, you're literally Hitler.
	I is for Ivanka, who's just out of reach.
	It's President Trump they want to impeach.
	I is for ISIS, funded by CIA.
	But since Trump got in, they've all run away.
	J is for John, always there with a joke.
	And J is for Jingle, Adam plays for us folk.
	K is for Night, and K is for Karma, that keeps our heads straight and away from the drama.
	L is for Langley, who love lots of long wars, as do Lockheed Martin with sales for sure.
	L is for a night, layaway plan.
	With a little each month, you know that you can.
	M's Maxine's meme, impeach 45.
	as the M5M tries to keep me too alive.
	And fill millennials' heads with bias and hate as they try to stop Trump's Make America Great.
	N is for Nazi and network fake news and the non-sequitur they use to confuse.
	But lucky we have our No Agenda show to nobble the nefarious plans for Gitmo.
	O is for oil that flows in pipelines.
	O is for Obama we thank all the time.
	P is for petroleum and plotting with Putin.
	And if you follow the pipelines...
	You'll see where they're shooting.
	P is for podcast produced for you and me, so pay up through PayPal to prevent poverty.
	Q is for queer and questioning queens, but with so many genders, it's not as it seems.
	R is for Russia and the radical left, which were one and the same before Gorbachev left.
	S is for science.
	And self-driving cars and stories of sending humans to Mars.
	S is for streaming and searching show notes for silly Al Sharpton and cute service goats.
	T is for Trump and those tormenting trolls who never give up though their means do grow old.
	Used for university and universal health care.
	That's really a scam.
	And clearly not fair.
	W's for whipsaw and privilege that's white and wonderful books that John's going to write.
	X's for Z and for Zem and for Zay from people who insist we address them that way.
	Y's for yes we can or is it thank you Satan and yelling at stuff won't fix git mo nation.
	Z is for Zephyr that goes by John's window.
	He tells us each time at the start of our show.
	But sadly our alphabet ends with a Z. 26 letters and not 33.
	It's the end of our book and your amygdala is well nourished.
	So I say in the morning, and thank you for your courage.
	The best podcast in the universe.
	I'm out.
	Mopo.
	Dvorak.org.
	Slash N-A. Oh, there's a sonic boom!

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