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1005: Circular Reporting

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	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	And Sunday, February 4th, 2018, this is your award-winning Gimbo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1005.
	This is No Agenda.
	Pass the popcorn, I'm reading memos, and broadcasting live from downtown Austin, Tejas, kind of with the Drone Star State here in Shithole Nation in the Cudio in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm enjoying a cup of Miles West Country tea from Porlock, UK, where all the old people go.
	I'm John C. DeBoer.
	It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill in the morning.
	Fascinating open.
	Poor luck.
	Where all the old people go.
	Is that where you pick?
	They do.
	It's the oldest town.
	It's where the most old people are.
	That's where you picked it up?
	No, somebody brought it.
	I've never seen it before.
	It's pretty tasty.
	I got some CBD tea from Amsterdam.
	CBD, I wonder what that, hmm, CBD tea.
	Yeah, and you buy it right in the...
	How effective is it?
	It has no THC. It's, they call it sleepy time tea with CBD. Does it knock you out?
	Well, when I drink it, I always, you know...
	Get drowsy?
	Yeah, I get drowsy.
	Not really drowsy, but it calms you, I think.
	I think.
	I don't know.
	I'd rather smoke my CBD. I think that's a much more effective way of administration.
	Just my opinion.
	Yeah.
	It's easier on the lungs.
	Yeah, big day today, Jean-Claude.
	We got the Stupor Bowl happening today.
	I have the whole thing wrapped up in a nutshell.
	I have a clip for the Super Bowl.
	I have one Super Bowl clip that says Sippy Bowl, but it means Super Bowl.
	Yes.
	It's just an ISO, though.
	Yeah, that's all there is.
	Okay.
	Let's go!
	Let's go!
	Yeah, okay.
	That's the Super Bowl in a nutshell.
	Well, we always feel that a lot of these sporting events are rigged, certainly organized sporting events.
	The Olympics is always very interesting to watch.
	But with a lot of geopolitical stuff going on, I think that we need to investigate this or just pre-construct, deconstruct what might happen with this year's Super Bowl.
	Well, I think we did that at the end of the last show where you said you think the Eagles will win, and I thought the Eagles would win for technical reasons.
	No, I don't because of the replacement quarterback.
	Mine.
	That was my thesis.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, now, last year, the Patriots, the Patriots, the Patriots.
	The Patriots.
	Patriots.
	No, that's their new name.
	That's their new name, the Patriots.
	They were going to win.
	Because of Trump's friendship with Brady and Belichick.
	He's the coach, right?
	Yeah, Belichick.
	And the owner, Robert Kraft.
	Yes, they're all Trump supporters.
	That's a good point.
	Right.
	But we can't have that this year.
	And now, of course, we have the NFL. They've allowed players to take a knee for the national anthem.
	The ratings are down.
	So I don't think they're going to be doing Trump any favors to get into his good graces so Eagles win.
	It's obvious.
	Okay, well, that's a little more stark.
	And I gave you 17 points.
	The Eagles will be down 17 points before halftime.
	And then they will still win the game.
	And the rationale, where'd you get that from?
	I can't review my sources and methods.
	It's important to national security.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, this is important in national security.
	That's all that counts.
	And by the way, all you have to do is say that, and then everyone should lie.
	Yes, yes, sir.
	Yes, indeed.
	I think I might have a compilage of such.
	Let me see.
	This would be under the heading, the memo.
	Yes, I do have a compilage.
	For those of you who didn't know, the memo came out.
	I was surprised.
	You were right.
	I didn't think it would come out this quickly.
	Yeah, here is what we heard about how dangerous this memo truly was, I think before we read it.
	The next Waco, the next time that federal law enforcement agencies are killed in the line of duty, that's on Trump.
	I'm not surprised that the FBI comes out and says that this is dangerous.
	Declassifying this information is dangerous and dangerous national security.
	The so-called Nunes memo, a four-page memo, which, by the way, threatens extremely classified information and endangers sources and methods.
	The president wants it out even though there are concerns that the work of tens of thousands of law enforcement and counterintelligence professionals may be smeared.
	They're advancing, in some sense, the interests of Russia.
	So, I didn't see any real national security concerns.
	In fact, I have another compilage.
	I have another compilage, which, this was really mind-boggling.
	Of all the terms you could bring back to describe this memo, and by the way, it did say memorandum in it, but it wasn't structured as a memorandum.
	No, yes it was.
	It was?
	Is that how you structure a memorandum?
	Pretty much.
	Why was it?
	I hate this.
	I'm going to say something.
	Everyone's going to roll their eyes on this one.
	I'm actually an expert on memo writing.
	No, I'm not rolling my eyes.
	I know you are.
	That's why I'm asking you.
	Because I actually took a whole full day seminar...
	Of all things, I'm a big fan of seminars, by the way.
	I took a full-day seminar when I was working for the Air Pollution District on how to properly write a memo.
	If you can imagine it being a whole day, it actually was a whole day, and I thought it was very valuable.
	I can write an unbelievably kick-ass memo.
	Well, I would like to...
	No, if you feel this memo was structured properly according to your seminar.
	I think so, yeah.
	It was good.
	Pretty well structured.
	Yeah, I always like writing memos that start off with, to memorialize our conversation.
	I love doing that.
	You just said it in stone.
	No, no, no, no.
	They brought one back.
	They brought one back.
	Of all the things you could call this memo, what would the stupidest word be?
	I don't know, but I'm guaranteeing the audience that you've got it right ready to tell us.
	The release of this memo is really reminiscent of the darkest days of the McCarthy era.
	Imagine if Devin Nunes is feeding us a nothing burger.
	This is, you know, amongst one of the most dangerous days of this presidency so far.
	Talk about a nothing burger.
	This is extremely dangerous manipulation information in order to discredit an investigation.
	Oh, for goodness sakes, the memo.
	It could be momentous or it could be a great big nothing burger.
	Well, that's right.
	We're at a very dangerous inflection point here.
	An incredible abuse of power.
	So what happens if this thing does turn out to be basically a dud?
	And I'm not saying the word nothing burger because I was...
	Well, this to me is very, very sad and dangerous.
	We're talking about defending the rule of law, defending the independence of the Department of Justice.
	I can say it's worse than a nothing burger.
	It's like having nothing mustard.
	Wow, that guy needs his head checked.
	So it's dangerous.
	So you had that con, but you overdid that one.
	They had, it's dangerous, and they fall by nothing burger, dangerous nothing burger, to imply that it was a nothing burger, which is the worst phrase ever developed.
	I think it was during the Clinton campaign.
	No, it was after, it was Van Jones who started that, remember?
	Yeah, he was, they hijacked him, or they jumped on him outside of some building.
	Maybe.
	I can't remember that.
	But I do remember Clinton used it once.
	Well, I have it right here.
	I'm sure you do.
	Yes, I have it right here.
	This is what we do.
	Hey, man.
	We met in Palm Springs a few years back.
	You good?
	Yeah.
	How you been?
	What are you doing?
	What do you think is going to happen this week?
	I mean, with the whole Russia thing.
	The Russia thing is just the Big Nothing Burger.
	Really?
	That's the way he launched it.
	The Big Nothing Burger.
	And it was Van Jones.
	Low calorie.
	Alright, so we both read the memo.
	Your thoughts?
	Yes, yes.
	I actually think the PBS report is quite good, which I have clipped extensively.
	Okay.
	And the other networks, I mean, I think PBS just did a better job, except for one thing, which is highlighted by the first clip.
	The teaser?
	Memo, PBS won.
	Hold on a second.
	Got it.
	Tonight's other major story is the release of a highly contentious congressional memo on the Russia investigation.
	Okay.
	Was this memo on the Russia investigation?
	No, no, no.
	Good catch.
	Let's hear that again.
	Tonight's other major story is the release of a highly contentious congressional memo on the Russia investigation.
	It's so interesting because that conflagration is made continuously.
	Oh, especially on PBS. Ha, good catch.
	Now, PBS also kind of...
	What is the memo about?
	It's not about the Russia investigation?
	Apparently not.
	I don't think it is.
	No.
	I'll just tell you the two sides.
	Methodology.
	Yeah.
	Methodology.
	Thank you.
	That's a great word.
	The memo is about methodology.
	Dimension A is saying, our institutions, everything's rotten to the core.
	Democracy has fallen apart.
	This can't stand.
	And dimension B is saying, ah, this memo is trying to stop the Mueller investigation by getting everyone fired.
	That's pretty much all I've heard.
	I think that's pretty much all there is.
	So let's listen to their actual report here a little longer.
	This is PBS 2.
	Tonight's other major story is the release of a highly contentious congressional memo on the Russia investigation.
	It's named for Chairman Devin Nunes of the House Intelligence Committee.
	And Republicans say that it shows abuses and bias.
	Lisa Desjardins begins our coverage.
	President Trump personally announced the decision to release the Nunes memo.
	The memo was sent to Congress.
	It was declassified.
	Congress will do whatever they're going to do.
	But I think it's a disgrace what's happening in our country.
	And when you look at that and you see that and so many other things, what's going on, a lot of people should be ashamed of themselves and much worse than that.
	The memo written by Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee begins with some stunning language.
	It speaks of concerns with the legitimacy and legality of how the Department of Justice and FBI have worked with the FISA or Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court and says there is a troubling breakdown of legal processes.
	What's that based on?
	The memo centers on secret surveillance of Carter Page, an advisor to then-candidate Donald Trump for some six months in 2016.
	Republicans charged that the FBI and DOJ, including top officials James Comey, Rod Rosenstein, and Andrew McCabe, got permission to spy on Page based on flawed sources that were biased against Trump, and that the agencies knew that and hid it.
	Specifically, the memo says that officials did not disclose that the Trump opposition research dossier put together by Christopher Steele was funded at one point by the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign.
	Another charge, that Christopher Steele himself was biased, telling a justice official in September of 2016 he was, quote, desperate that Donald Trump not be elected.
	One more, that the justice official he told...
	A man named Bruce Ohr himself had conflicts that his wife worked for the company behind the dossier.
	This all matters far beyond Carter Page because Republicans say this information sparked the much wider Russia investigation by the FBI, now led by Special Counsel Bob Mueller.
	Some are using that to question the investigation.
	Democrats say that's the real and political objective here, to undermine Mueller's investigation.
	Oh, well there you go.
	That's pretty much what I said, only they took two minutes to do it.
	We were done.
	But they had some details that were worthwhile.
	You know, we started...
	By the way, is there anything that ever comes out in this?
	I'm going to play two more clips, but is there anything in here that we haven't discussed on this show many a time?
	Nothing.
	The only thing...
	Well, we knew that Steele had talked to the media, but I was unaware of the Michael Isikoff conversation.
	And that was mentioned in the memo.
	Specifically, he wrote the article that was apparently used as corroboration that the Steele dossier had some meat to it.
	So I didn't know that.
	But I did...
	Pick up something from Michael Isikoff's podcast.
	Because of course he has a podcast.
	And he has more.
	His podcast is called Skullduggery.
	And first I should point out that I'm not the only journalist that Christopher Steele was meeting that day.
	And I can talk about this because Christopher Steele himself, in a British court filing, has said he spoke to journalists from multiple news organizations, including ours.
	Kind of makes him a slightly unusual spy, a spy who talks to a lot of reporters.
	Well, yeah, he was...
	Former spy.
	Right, right.
	And by the way, if I learned anything...
	I feel that you could have a third take on the memo and the whole situation at large.
	The British government disrupted our elections by putting their spy in the middle of our business.
	I think you're 100% on that one.
	I mean, that needs to be one of our...
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	I mean, it's...
	That needs to be one of our points, one of the no agenda points regarding this.
	It's certainly plausible.
	We know that Britain didn't even want to let Donald Trump land before he was president.
	They didn't want to let him in the country.
	Right.
	Before he got elected, there was...
	We have the clips...
	Yes, we do.
	...of him being excoriated in the House of Commons and...
	It was ridiculous.
	They were all calling him names.
	Everybody.
	There was one of your clips.
	What would you have titled that?
	House, Parliament, Parliament something maybe.
	Probably Parliament.
	Yep, I think I have it here.
	I'm sure that it's a great shock to you to see that a genuine...
	No.
	That's the EU Parliament.
	Now we want the British Parliament.
	Anyway, we have it somewhere for sure.
	We have it somewhere.
	But that's the only thing that no one is really bringing up is, hold on, this was a, yeah, sure, former MI6, former, I'm sure, can you really be a former spy, really, who worked in Russia?
	So, you know, it could just as well have been the guy was flipped by Russia and he was doing this on behest of the Russians.
	That's all plausible if we're just talking out of our buttholes.
	He spoke to journalists from multiple news organizations, including ours.
	Kind of makes him a slightly unusual spy, a spy who talks to a lot of reporters.
	Well, yeah.
	Former spy.
	Right, right.
	And I should say, he was forced to document that as part of a lawsuit that's been filed against him and his company over the dossier.
	But in any case, yes, look, Glenn Simpson, as I mentioned, old friend, you know, stellar journalist for you.
	I didn't realize that Glenn Simpson, who runs Fusion GPS, was a big-time former journalist.
	I'm sure you knew this.
	I didn't know that.
	It seems like a great gig.
	Yeah.
	Much better than reporting.
	There's a lot of gigs that are better than being a journalist nowadays.
	I mean, doing oppo research?
	Yeah.
	And you see the numbers these guys were getting?
	Oh, yeah.
	There's good money in that.
	Yeah, we should be doing it.
	Just a thought.
	Investigated business and was doing opposition research for the Democrats.
	I did not know, by the way...
	That it was the Clinton campaign itself and the DNC that was paying Glenn's company, Fusion GPS. But I knew it was on behalf of Democrats who wanted Hillary Clinton.
	This was oppo research.
	And that's what I do during political campaigns.
	Talk to oppo people from both sides to see what they got, to see if there's anything they have that might be worthy of a story.
	So I meet Christopher Steele.
	He's a serious guy.
	And I mean that in every sense of the word, not just his resume.
	He's a former MI6 operative in Moscow, the top Russia specialist for British intelligence for many years then in the private investigative business, had been hired by Glenn to do this research on Donald Trump's ties to Moscow.
	But he was not interested in small talk.
	There wasn't a lot of, you know, humorous asides.
	It was all business, and he had what clearly he viewed as some very significant information that he had developed from his sources, the people that he had tapped.
	So, I mean, obviously throughout the course of your career, you've met a lot of secret sources in a lot of different places, including, I'm assuming, Washington Hotels.
	He struck you as credible, is what you're saying, that he was not flaky or conspiratorial.
	He struck you as someone who was a serious guy.
	Now wait for it, but this is what he's really in the business for.
	Yeah, I think that's fair to say.
	Obviously, I wanted to check him out.
	And by the way, I should have mentioned this earlier, all of this will be documented in great detail in the forthcoming book I have coming out with David Korn, Russian Roulette, the inside story of Vladimir Putin's attack on America.
	Douchebag!
	He's just plugging a book!
	David Korn.
	With David Korn.
	The other guy who's complicit in this.
	Come on.
	That's just lame.
	We gotta have a book.
	Podcasting the Memo.
	Podcasting Russian Collusion.
	Yes.
	We lived it.
	We lived it for years.
	We have a book about it.
	We all will be revealed.
	All will be revealed.
	We have sources.
	Alright, let's go jump back to the PBS discussion on Memo PBS 3.
	Democrats say that's the real and political objective here, to undermine Mueller's investigation.
	President Trump was asked today if he is now more likely to fire Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, the man overseeing the Mueller investigation.
	You figure that one out.
	Meanwhile, Democrats argued the Republican memo is wholly misleading.
	For example, it shows the date of the surveillance request, October 21, 2016, but that was nearly a month after the Trump campaign had said Carter Page was no longer with them.
	Yeah, that's a little annoying detail, isn't it?
	It's not annoying to me, and I can tell you why.
	I think there's one aspect of this completely overlooked.
	Okay.
	And that is, and by the way, the Democrats, if you listen to the talk radio guys, and including the Trump haters that are on the talk radio, the right-winger Michael Medved, who seems to be like a never-Trumper, and they all bring out this date.
	Well, this was after he quit.
	But as we found out from Snowden, once you get one of these warrants, it's like a tape recording that goes to infinity in both directions of the timeline.
	Right?
	So you drop right in on that date, but that doesn't mean anything.
	You get to listen to all the recordings in the past.
	All the Trump recordings in the past.
	And all the recordings in the future.
	John put the Vinegar book on hold.
	Our book is going to really explain it all.
	So the bullcrap about the date is nonsense, and we know all that because Snowden told us.
	Yeah, why isn't anyone bringing that up?
	Because they either, A, don't think of it, or it doesn't meet their standards of whatever theory they're promoting.
	I think, you know, we registered section702.org maybe five years ago, six years ago, maybe even longer than that.
	And I was collecting articles about Section 702, which is exactly what we're talking about, which President Trump just reauthorized quietly, I might add, which is extremely disappointing.
	It wasn't that quiet.
	Well, it was reasonably quiet.
	It was on a Friday, you know, one of those deals.
	It was quiet.
	Yeah, but you know what I'm saying.
	Why are you arguing with me?
	You agree on this.
	We agree on this.
	I do, but the thing is he first didn't want to sign off after the Napolitano thing and we had the clip of it.
	Napolitano went on and on about how Trump's all in trouble because of 702 and then whoever else came up and then Trump sent out a tweet saying he's not going to sign it and then the quietness began and he signed it.
	So somebody got to him for some reason.
	You have to sign it, President, because we're going to be screwed.
	The Russians will take over the government.
	Or, you know, hey, do you want us to get rid of all these people?
	We need 702.
	That's also possible.
	That's probably more likely.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Anyway.
	So this is bull crap.
	The date is bull crap when they start venting off this guy.
	And I want to maybe stop right here and let's go into something.
	If you think they're not discussing the date and the way it can be used, let's talk about Carter Page.
	All right.
	Let's talk about Carter Page.
	I'm going to ask you what you think when I tell you his background.
	Can I tell you something first right off the bat?
	Yes.
	Without a doubt, if I went to Central Casting and said, get me a guy who looks like a Russian spy.
	He would be in the top five.
	He has the look.
	Just like Stephen Miller has the Nazi look.
	It's sad, but that's just what they got.
	He can't help it.
	He's got the look.
	He's got a Russian spy look.
	Yeah, I can see that.
	I think he projects himself as a goofball.
	Cage graduated in 1993 from the United States Naval Academy with a distinguished graduate, top 10% of his class, and was chosen for the Navy's Trident Scholar Program.
	which gives selected officers the opportunity for independent academic research.
	During his senior year at the Naval Academy, he worked as a researcher for the House Armed Services Committee.
	He served in the Navy for five years, including a tour in western Morocco as an intelligence officer for a United Nations peacekeeping mission.
	In 1984, he completed a Master of Arts degree at the National Security Study at Georgetown University.
	After leaving the Navy, Page completed a fellowship on the Council of Foreign Relations and in 2001 he received an MBA from New York University.
	And then he became an investment banker with Merrill Lynch in the firm's London office and a vice president in the company's Moscow office.
	Does any of this sound a little suspicious?
	I spot the spook.
	Spot the spook.
	Everybody wants to spot the spook.
	Let's move on.
	You think?
	Wow, you just blew my mind with that.
	So let's go to George Papadopoulos.
	Uh-oh.
	Who I believe was actually extracted.
	And that's why he...
	Okay.
	Give me Papadopoulos.
	Okay.
	Political science from DePaul University.
	He speaks Arabic, English, French, and Greek.
	Later went on to earn an MS degree in security studies at the University College London, which is the key here because remember both Papadopoulos and Page were in London.
	London is the number one place for globalists to train their people.
	That's where the Rhodes Scholars go.
	The whole thing is London-based, and that's all about globalism.
	So he was with the Hudson Institute, and then according to records, Papadopoulos was recruited to join Trump's foreign policy advisor team in early March 2016 by Sam Clovis.
	So he gets into the team, and then the next thing you know, he's sending emails concerning Putin to at least seven campaign officials.
	Clovis, as Trump national campaign co-chairman, encouraged Papadopoulos to fly to Russia to meet with agents of the Russian foreign ministry.
	Between March and September of 2016, Papadopoulos made at least six requests for Trump or representatives of his campaign to meet in Russia with Russian politicians.
	Of course, none of them bit on this.
	And so then you go look at Sam Clovis, who is actually the undersecretary of something, agriculture under Trump's.
	This guy, U.S. Air Force lifer, ends up going to Golden Gate University, starts with political science, receives an MBA from Golden Gate University, attends a national security program at Georgetown.
	Oh my God, that is amazing!
	Sirs 25 years in the Air Force.
	Then he ends up working for Booz Allen Hamilton, worked for Homeland Security Institute, joined the Homeland Security Studies and Analysis Institute.
	So this guy's a plant.
	He brings Papadopoulos in.
	And Papadopoulos starts the whole thing.
	Carter Page comes in.
	The whole thing is a complete scam.
	No, it's a setup.
	It's a setup.
	The memo is a scam.
	It's a setup.
	It's a setup.
	They're trying to get the meetings with the Trump administration.
	It's too brain dead.
	They couldn't even figure it out.
	They couldn't figure it out.
	And they're going, no, we don't want these meetings with the Russians.
	Oh, no, come on.
	Let's go have a meeting with the Russians.
	Let's Fly to Russia!
	So the whole...
	So it was a complete frame job?
	Yeah.
	Let's play it again.
	Let's just play it one more time.
	Spot the spook.
	Because it's so groovy.
	Spot the spook.
	Yeah, everybody.
	Walk up.
	To our little No Agenda Night Club.
	Where we spot spooks.
	Yeah.
	Now, how many of these so-called journalists out there have even mentioned Carter Page's background, let alone Clovis and Papadopoulos?
	Well, here's what's annoying, because Carlson, Tucker Carlson, in his annoying way of trying to get people to answer a question they never will, which ruins his show, he has, on several occasions, said, you know, this guy was Naval Academy Honors, but he never went into it.
	And so now, just now that you've set my mind straight on that, I appreciate it.
	Maybe everyone was really worried.
	Here you go.
	Sources and methods.
	Maybe they were worried that it would come out that these guys were spooks.
	And that they were essentially planted there to spy and to perhaps set them up.
	And then this memo was needed to cover up that job.
	Could be.
	All I know is these guys are very suspicious, all of them.
	And I think the Papadopoulos thing where he pleaded guilty to him.
	If you look at somebody, go look at this indictment.
	His indictment for lying to the FBI, I think, was an extraction.
	It was to get him out of there and bring him in as a source.
	I'm going to do something that you always say but you can't do.
	I'm giving you a clip of the day for it.
	I got nothing better.
	I got nothing better than that for it.
	It's the highest award I can give.
	Well, anyway, so let's go back.
	The pop dust has been extracted.
	I guarantee that lying to the FBI is a felony.
	This will not go on his record.
	This will not be a felony.
	It'll be dropped to a misdemeanor or something similar.
	But also, you know, if the guy truly is a Russian spy and he's been under investigation for, you know, since 2013, why isn't he in jail or at least in custody or something, further questioning?
	You didn't just let the guy walk around.
	You're talking about Page?
	Yeah, Page in this case, yeah.
	Yeah, Page.
	Yeah, I know.
	The whole thing's bullcrap.
	And the thing that's funny about Page, if you start looking at him, he's decided he's changed his style.
	There was a number of reports about people reacting to him as a wackadoodle.
	But he called him an idiot.
	I've seen him a couple of times.
	You wouldn't know he's a PhD from the University of London.
	Globalist.
	But also, Papadopoulos, if you recall, he spilled the beans while drunk in London.
	Again, London.
	If we know anything about CIA, they like to drink.
	Now, that's not proof, but for him to do that in London and then spill the beans, it smells of a complete, complete setup.
	I hadn't even considered that.
	Jeez.
	Good one, John.
	This is why there's two of us.
	And why we never travel together or in the same room together.
	It's very important we stay separated.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Okay, so, well, now we have some stuff to investigate.
	Yeah, this whole thing stinks.
	It stinks, and the guy who stinks the most is Adam Schiff.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He must know.
	He knows everything.
	Yeah.
	He knows this is a setup.
	It's not working.
	It's not working.
	Let's go to the PBS 4 that wrapped this up.
	...had said Carter Page was no longer with them.
	Another example.
	Democrats insist the Steele dossier was only one factor in the surveillance, and Republicans have left out the others.
	The FBI said today it takes its obligations in this area very seriously and that it was given only a limited opportunity to respond to this material.
	What's next?
	The ranking Democrat on House Intelligence, Adam Schiff, is working to clear the release of a separate Democratic memo.
	For the PBS NewsHour, I'm Lisa Desjardins.
	So that is now what we're going to be dealing with for the foreseeable future.
	Everyone's going to have a damn memo, which has no legal standing.
	It's just a memo.
	Well, this memo, which is really, is almost identical to what you predicted, not in so far as what it contained, but in its effect and its importance, which is zero.
	Yeah.
	There's nothing in here that's setting the world on fire.
	Well, so wait a minute.
	So here's what's going to happen.
	So now we get the Democratic memo, and then, hold on, there'll be more memos!
	And you know, I've been saying this.
	This is a new message.
	For a year now that there was no evidence of collusion.
	Are there other memos that are going to come out?
	Are there other memos?
	You said this was phase one.
	Yeah, so this completes just the FISA abuse portion of our investigation.
	We are in the middle of what I call phase two of our investigation, which involves other departments, specifically the State Department and some of the involvement that they had in this.
	That investigation is ongoing, and we continue to work towards finding answers and asking the right questions to try to get to the bottom of what exactly the State Department was up to in terms of this Russia investigation.
	Oh, okay.
	So now we're going to get a memo about the State Department.
	Oh, it's just going to be a memo fest.
	Everybody's got a memo.
	Maybe it'll repopularize the whole idea of memos.
	That's right in my wheelhouse.
	Now, tell me, what is the actual function of a memo?
	Memo is usually a statement that is...
	That's a good question, by the way.
	Not a great question.
	No, it's not a great one, no.
	It...
	It itemizes, explains, and kind of summarizes some subject that you want people to understand better, and it's supposed to do that.
	And it usually goes out to a group of people, sometimes to one person, if it's to cover your ass, which is just one or two people.
	And I've written those, too, just by accident.
	But they're very valuable.
	I saved a job I had in...
	This is one of my long stories that doesn't really fit in to tell here, but it's a useful function to write cover your ass memos where you ask a lot of questions about something and you hope you don't get an answer.
	Ah, so a memo is something you put out there and you hope you don't get anything back about it.
	Well, no, to cover your ass memo.
	That's a cover your ass memo.
	Right, right.
	So this was maybe a cover their ass memo.
	I don't see any covering anything.
	The whole thing is a cover their ass.
	John, you blew my mind and I'm annoyed I didn't even catch it.
	So yeah, that to me, you know, framing Flynn, you know Flynn was framed.
	Yeah.
	So that would make sense.
	Yeah, well, Flynn was always an enemy of the CIA. He's a DIA guy.
	Of course.
	And we know that this is FBI, CIA. Nothing better than for the CIA to put a guy in to make the FBI look bad.
	I mean, it fits everything we've ever thought about.
	It really does.
	Pretty much.
	So there is a CIA guy on the House Intelligence Committee who's a Texas congressman.
	I don't like him.
	Heard.
	Yeah, black guy, right?
	Yeah, he's a black guy.
	He is a Silicon Valley douchebag as far as I'm concerned.
	He probably is.
	But he has some interesting things to say because they brought him on the NewsHour on PBS. And he talks about the memo.
	And he's all it seems to me you might if this was a setup on top of a setup on top of a setup to make the FBI look bad in some circumstance.
	Hurd is playing a kind of a funny role here.
	But let's listen to this and see if we can deconstruct it.
	I spoke earlier with two members of that committee, starting with Republican Will Hurd of Texas.
	I asked him what information was so explosive to warrant releasing the document despite calls by the intelligence community to keep it classified.
	Well, I don't know if I would describe it with the adjective explosive, but what the information in the memo question asks is, should federal law enforcement be allowed to use unverified information, Circular reporting and rumors in a Title III court to request a FISA warrant.
	And for me, this is about making sure that Congress is actually providing good oversight of our federal law enforcement.
	This is not, in my opinion, about the Mueller investigation.
	I believe Bob Mueller should be allowed to turn over every rock Pursue every lead to ensure that we know what the Russians are trying to do in our elections.
	But this is Congress's responsibility to the American people to provide oversight and ensure that our civil liberties are being protected.
	I'm sure you know those who are defending the FBI here say that it did follow procedure very carefully and it relied on more than that controversial Steele dossier, so called, to make its case.
	And again, I expect them to make their case and to defend their actions.
	Whether or not other information was used is immaterial.
	The former director of the FBI himself said that some of the material that was used was salacious and unverified.
	And then another piece of information, the Yahoo News article, I'm sorry, what is the definition of circular reporting?
	You pointed this out the last time on the last show.
	We didn't have the term for it, but you already pointed it out.
	This is where the CIA puts an article someplace else.
	Ah, yes.
	Yeah, we just didn't know the name.
	He's a CIA guy, so he knows what it's called because it's a term that's floating around the CIA. So circular reporting is a real thing.
	Yeah, so just to explain that, circular reporting is a very old trick where you get something into, let's say, the South African Times, which sounds pretty good and official, and it's an official newspaper, but an agent there on the ground will write the article, then the New York Times is instructed to point to that article as, there's the fact, there's the truth, because the South African Times said so.
	Now it has a name, circular reporting.
	And yeah, it's in their lexicon right now.
	Because it appears to have been used.
	Yes, I think that which is kind of a giveaway.
	That's why I like these clips because we get to pick up.
	I don't think they know they're giving away some of these secrets.
	That is actually a methodology secret that he gave up.
	Yeah, and we caught it.
	Right out of thin.
	A fly ball!
	Fly ball!
	The clip's not over.
	I want to hear the rest.
	Other information was used as immaterial.
	The former director of the FBI himself said that some of the material that was used was salacious and unverified.
	And then another piece of information, the Yahoo News article, relied on that same information, which is circular reporting and it was being used as confirmation of the original source.
	And then third, rumors from another host government, another government.
	So whether or not more information was used or not, to me, is not the question.
	It's why was that kind of information used?
	And to me, as a professional intelligence officer, Judy, as you know, I spent almost a decade as an undercover officer in the CIA, protecting sources and methods, gathering information.
	My job was to determine the difference between information and intelligence.
	And I was comfortable releasing this information because, as you've looked, none of this damages national security.
	Well, that is the argument Democrats are making, that this damages the intelligence community.
	It does long-term damage to the agencies that do this fundamental work day in and day out.
	According to the Book of Knowledge, circular reporting is a situation in source criticism where a piece of information appears to come from multiple independent sources, but in reality comes from only one source.
	In many cases, the problem happens mistakenly through sloppy intelligence-gathering practices.
	However, at other times, the situation can be intentionally caused by the original source.
	Right on.
	Want to go to part two of him?
	Yeah.
	Fundamental work day in and day out.
	And I would disagree with that.
	This is not a criticism of rank and file members of the FBI. I've had the honor of serving side by side with them.
	This is about making sure the political leadership of these organizations are crossing every T and dotting every I.
	We give a lot of responsibility and authority to the Department of Justice and FBI.
	And that authority every single time should be used appropriately.
	And I think this is a case where I'm firmly in opposition of using unverified information in a fiscal court.
	I still don't like him, although he gave us some valuable information there.
	That's appreciated.
	A couple of things that kind of irked me, and maybe I missed it if it was in the report.
	You may remember it being in there.
	It's used to leverage the date, which of course I debunked by saying that the date didn't mean anything because you can go backwards and forwards in time, of the Carter Page FISA warrant to spy on him, which is my understanding is that they had tried to get a FISA warrant before this date a number of times.
	And they failed until they brought in the memo and the circular reporting.
	The dossier.
	The dossier, right.
	The dossier.
	Was there any mention of this initial failure in that memo?
	Yes.
	Yes, I believe there was.
	Okay.
	But, you know, at this point we've heard so much.
	I'm actually looking at it right now.
	At this point we've heard so much that you don't even know where you read something and where you heard something.
	But yes, I believe that was described in the memo.
	Okay, well that's good.
	I'm just looking real quick.
	I don't see it.
	But just the fact that this involves someone like David Korn, I mean that he's even mentioned in the memo, just tells you right there, you can't take it seriously.
	And was Steele like, you know, what kind of contact did he have with all these other news outlets?
	That's kind of interesting.
	He got $10 million from the law firm who the DNC hired, and he apparently also sold it to the FBI, which I think is double-dipping.
	I'm not sure.
	Hey, here's the next.
	Oh, I dropped $1,000, Jake Tapper.
	There's this other thing that going around, I mentioned in the newsletter, I wanted to mention.
	I'd worked for a government agency for long enough to know that this is the case.
	They're going on and on about Rosenstein and Comey and, oh, it's just ruining their morale, the morale.
	These journalists and other analysts or pundits, they see these operations, massive operations happening.
	basketball teams.
	Oh, the coach is being, oh, the coach quit, the coach quit.
	What am I going to do?
	And they go on, like you said, the coach of Michigan State leaves for some other school, and all the basketball players are depressed about it.
	You know, all 12 of them, they're on the team, or 15.
	And that's not the case.
	When you're working for any agency, small or large, most of these guys at the top are perceived as the douchebags.
	Who gives a shit whether they get fired or not?
	Comey wasn't pals with the guys that were doing the day-to-day work.
	It's bullcrap.
	I mean, the guy you're loyal to is maybe your immediate supervisor, the guy handling your group, you know, who's never going to get his name in anything because he's just too far down the ladder.
	And those guys, yeah, he is the basketball coach.
	Rosenstein, McCabe.
	It's bullcrap.
	Anyone who's worked for the government knows it's bullcrap.
	It's not ruining the morale of everybody that works in the FBI. It's just nonsense.
	If anything, I would actually argue the opposite.
	I would say...
	That it is not ruining morale, it corrupts the organization.
	When you have the rotten top, and I've run companies successfully and unsuccessfully, and I've seen what happens in corporate culture, you get shit at the top, it propagates down to the bottom.
	It does, it goes all over the bottom.
	And so the whole FBI may be completely crap.
	This blanket, this is not about the rank and file, the rank and...
	Where does this phrase from the Shays come from?
	Rank and file.
	Ooh.
	I mean, these are things we need to discuss.
	I mean, you just hear...
	Rank and file.
	We've got to look this one up.
	You're right.
	Let me see if I can...
	You want to do it now?
	Okay, let's go.
	Yeah, we might as well do it now.
	Sure.
	A phrase from the chaise.
	All right.
	A phrase from the chaise.
	Rank and file.
	Jean-Claude Dvorak.
	Okay, let me look up the...
	What's the meaning of rank and file?
	This is a website called phrase.org.
	Which has to do with this.
	It specifically goes after these things.
	The ordinary members of a group as opposed to group leadership.
	That's the definition.
	What's the origin?
	Rank and file now refers to the ordinary members of any group and they originate as a military term.
	The rows and columns of soldiers drawn up for drill and not including officers were called ranks and files.
	Ha!
	There you go, everybody.
	This usage...
	Yes.
	This usage dates back to the 16th century.
	Woo!
	Yes, when we had rank and file on the battlefield.
	Okay.
	So, back to my original premise.
	This corrupts these organizations.
	It really does.
	It does.
	And FBI, which...
	Actually, I have a clip here from Philip Mudd, who has been freaking out on CNN. He...
	He likes to talk.
	He's an ex-CIA guy.
	Let's see what he has to say about this regarding the FBI. The president's talking about basically corruption at the FBI today, but we oppose the leadership.
	The workforce is going to look at this and say, this is an attack on our ability to conduct an investigation with integrity.
	There's hundreds of agents and analysts working on this investigation.
	It's not just Christopher Wray, the FBI director.
	So the FBI people, I'm going to tell you, are ticked.
	And they're going to be saying, I guarantee it, you think you can push us off this because you can try to intimidate the director?
	You better think again, Mr.
	President.
	You've been around for 13 months.
	We've been around since 1908.
	I know how this game is going to be played.
	We're going to win.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	1908.
	I think he's full of shit, that guy.
	Yeah, 1908.
	It did indeed start in 1908, but it wasn't until 1917 that J. Edgar Hoover came in and built his fiefdom where we had the commies and we had McCarthyism coming from the FBI. From the FBI. Yeah, the FBI's done a good job of that.
	Well, they just pulled out the old material.
	They just pulled out the old playbooks and, hey...
	Let's go back to...
	And listen to Thomas Drake, the NSA, one of the three or four most famous NSA whistleblowers, when he was giving a speech to the National Press Club.
	And here's his FBI comments.
	After your experience, would you advise someone else in your position to blow the whistle on government wrongdoing?
	Yes, but make sure you understand what you're getting yourself into.
	So...
	Do not speak to the FBI and make sure you have a lawyer right from the start.
	If my case is any example, they'll do everything they can to take anything you say and anything they find and use it to justify charges.
	That in my case were actually framed.
	See, I told the truth to the FBI agents.
	They didn't believe me.
	In fact, four of the ten felony counts were for making false statements.
	One of them was for obstructing justice.
	You know why?
	Because a chief prosecutor said that unless I cooperate with the investigation, they're going to pursue prosecution.
	So...
	The answer is yes.
	We actually need more.
	Having spoken to Daniel Ellsberg, he actually thought in the early 70s, with all the publicity that surrounded the Pentagon Papers, that more people would actually step forward.
	And other than some close colleagues and associates, guess what?
	Hardly anybody else stepped forward regarding the travesty of Vietnam.
	Yeah.
	So there's your FBI... I actually have another FBI. I'm not here to slam the FBI, but I want to play one more FBI. What do they have on you?
	What do they have on you?
	So let's play this clip.
	I would like somebody to explain this to me.
	We all know about the guy Nassar, that horrible doctor who was like fingering all this.
	Yeah, the FBI knew about this.
	FBI, this is Nassar abuse in the FBI. At least 40 girls and women say Larry Nassar molested him for over a year after his sexual abuse was initially reported to the FBI. The New York Times reported today that USA Gymnastics told the FBI of Nassar's abuse back in July of 2015.
	However, He wasn't publicly exposed until the Indianapolis Star published a victim's story about 14 months later in September of 2016.
	In the meantime, Nassar continued to see young female athletes while working at Michigan State University.
	Over 250 people have accused Nassar of sexual assault.
	Yeah, I was reading this just this morning.
	I didn't have a clip, so I'm glad you got that.
	What kind of boneheads are these guys that they let that go on for a year?
	Uh, I don't know.
	I do have thoughts about the idea of lying to the FBI as a felony or making false statements, especially after the Drake thing where he actually told the truth because he was a whistleblower and he had truths to tell.
	And they said, no, it's not true.
	They just decided...
	That it wasn't true.
	That it wasn't true because it was, I guess, far-fetched or they couldn't get confirmation or whatever.
	So this was...
	This happened to Martha Stewart.
	She just misspoke and she ended up in jail.
	Same thing.
	Why is this?
	Are you under oath?
	So you can't talk to the FBI ever, it seems to me, because you are apparently by some statute under oath perjury type problem if you talk to the FBI at all.
	And the Carter Page thing, not the Carter Page thing, but the Papadopoulos thing, which is, if you look at that indictment...
	Yeah, he wasn't under oath.
	He wasn't under oath, and what his mistake was, he made a mistake of giving the wrong date for an incident.
	Right.
	It was a wrong date.
	Oh, lying to the FBI. Right, well, that was, as you pointed out, the extraction.
	Well, use anything.
	Yeah, you gotta get him out of there.
	Hmm, hmm, hmm.
	Anyway, these guys are up to their ankles.
	And it reinforces the CIA-FBI meme that we've been looking at.
	I do have two other clips of responses regarding the memo.
	Just some unhinged behavior, Donnie Deutsch, over there at MSNBC. Wasn't he an advertising executive?
	I probably ask this every time.
	Yes, he was.
	He was something like that.
	I remember back in the 90s, we had our...
	Yeah, he's famous.
	Think New Ideas, and he was like, oh, Donnie Deutsch, Donnie Deutsch.
	Oh, yes, he knows everything about advertising.
	He was one of those pundit types, like Faith Popcorn.
	Yes!
	There's another name from the past.
	Yes, Faith Popcorn.
	Cocooning.
	We're cocooning.
	What happened to cocooning?
	I remember the only thing from Faith Popcorn was that...
	Her advice, one of her great moments of giving a lot of advice was, and by the way, I think if anyone takes this advice, what's his name over at Facebook, the CEO of the kid?
	Zuckerberg?
	Zuckerberg.
	He takes this advice.
	Somebody pointed out that he buys one t-shirt and he just wears it forever.
	Her idea was, if you find a dress you like, buy ten of them.
	And just wear that dress.
	What happened to cocooning?
	It was such a good movement.
	Wasn't that her whole book about cocooning?
	Yeah, cocooning.
	How'd that work out?
	Cocooning.
	Apparently it didn't help her career much.
	My leg is shaking.
	I know, I know.
	Go, go.
	Let it all out.
	Here's what's going on here.
	I don't want to talk about a memo.
	We've got a dozen instances of clearly the Russians colluding in this election with top Trump officials.
	Two have already been convicted.
	We have a guy, a president, who clearly is owned by Putin.
	We have an investigation going.
	Okay, that's good news.
	We basically now have a press release that's been put out that's been twisted and mangled that now will give this president...
	Permission to fire Rosenstein, who will now take over this investigation.
	Our democracy is under siege.
	People need to start taking to the streets.
	This is a dictator.
	This is not something to analyze anymore.
	This is not something, oh, a good day for Trump.
	This is frightening stuff if you are an American.
	If you're somebody who's 80 years old and sitting at home and you've watched the greatness of this country, you should be terrified.
	And if you're a 12-year-old and the future is in front of you, this is terrifying.
	This is not time to analyze and pundit.
	We need a revolution at this point.
	I want to know what the people of this country are going to do if Rob Rosenstein is fired.
	We can't take this sitting down.
	Trump is winning.
	He's winning, kids.
	This crazy, wacky guy is winning.
	And a year into this, he has already, not chipped, has cut away at the things that protect us.
	Half of this country thinks the media totally lies.
	At this point, 44% of this country doesn't trust the FBI. And guess what?
	A year from now, if this doesn't change, maybe this table's in trouble if we keep talking like this.
	I'm not being dramatic.
	This is what's happening, kids.
	I mean, and this guy's winning.
	This wacky, orange, poofy-haired guy is winning this game.
	And we cannot depend on the Congress anymore.
	And if Rosenstein is fired, there needs to be people in the streets.
	Who was this guy?
	Donnie Deutsch.
	That was Deutsch?
	That was Donnie Deutsch.
	Wow, he's nuts.
	Yes.
	So we have a couple of interesting things.
	First, a memo that everyone's freaked out about that it's going to destroy the country if it ever was released because of – I don't know why.
	But that's what they were all saying.
	And now we have this situation because Rosenstein is now the target supposedly of all the hate and vitriol.
	Well, no, the thinking is, ah, when they get Rosenstein, then Mueller can get fired.
	That's the whole thing.
	Well, when you listen to the PBS, I mean, they're not letting up on this.
	I mean, again, I still believe this is the globalist versus the people that believe in sovereignty for the United States, as shown by all these people doing work for the government.
	Council on Foreign Relations and working out of London.
	So they had Schiff on to give his side of the whole thing.
	And on the PBS show, after they heard, they weren't in this room at the same time.
	Because that would have been the interesting thing if it wasn't.
	Unfortunately, they weren't.
	But I have the whole Schiff thing in a nutshell.
	He goes on and on about one thing or another, how they have to have their own...
	The Democrats have to have their own memo to counteract this other useless memo, but okay.
	And then I think this is really what, then Schiff ends with this.
	No, the goal here is to try to distract attention away from what the Russians did and what the Trump campaign may have done in combination with the Russians.
	Boom.
	Yeah.
	Boom, count one.
	Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.
	Yes, nothing FBI. Nothing FBI, nothing England.
	UK, I think is an interesting point you made.
	It could be they were doing more meddling with a globalist for sure.
	It's at least worth discussing since they wouldn't let Trump land.
	Right.
	First they argued against Trump ever showing up and then now if Trump goes there there's going to be huge amounts of protests so he can't really visit the country even though he's their closest ally.
	Yeah, and it's a security risk at this point as well.
	Yeah, it's a huge security risk.
	Who's behind all that?
	Oh, here.
	I have it here.
	I think I found the clip.
	Britain is pretty good at roasting beef.
	Do you not think it's better that we just roast Trump?
	On that point, about 1.6 billion Muslims.
	Thank God there are 1.6 billion Trumps.
	Yes, sir.
	His policy to close borders is bonkers.
	Donald Trump is free to be a fool, but he's not free to be a dangerous fool in Britain.
	He is a wazzock.
	His words are not comical.
	His words are poisonous.
	Donald Trump is a buffoon.
	Buffoon!
	Buffoonery.
	Daft and offensive.
	Nasty, abusive, racist tweets.
	Not a criminal, a buffoon.
	Bring him here.
	Let us have the opportunity to challenge him and let him go home with his tail between his legs.
	And ultimately, buffoonery should not be met with the blunt instrument of a band, but with the classic British response of ridicule.
	You know, thinking that MI6 is no different from our CIA and MI5, FBI, I can see them sitting there having a meeting.
	It's a buffoon!
	Let's screw him.
	Easily.
	That clip was people in Parliament voting on whether or not to ban Trump from entering the UK. Yeah.
	Yeah.
	There you go.
	Yeah.
	And then they have a former agent meddling in our elections.
	Literally.
	Yeah.
	Just a thought.
	I got one last one just because I thought it was funny because it is a U.S. congressman.
	We got to find out.
	This may be a very small guy.
	I mean, size-wise.
	Tina pointed this out last night.
	We were watching him.
	Eric Solwell.
	He's from California.
	He's one of your representatives, John, out there.
	And let's do a quick search, see if this guy's like 4'9 or something.
	Because he has a really big head, which works well on TV. He's a very clean-cut kind of guy.
	What's his name?
	Swalwell.
	S-W-A-L-W-E-L-L. First name?
	Eric, with a C. Eric Swalwell.
	But when you look at his head and then you see the shoulders, he must be very...
	Oh, he looks very small.
	He looks like a petite male.
	Yeah, I'm only bringing it up just because context is everything.
	And just because I want to ridicule him.
	But the clips...
	You're a big tall guy.
	You like to do that to little guys.
	I got some edge over some...
	You're heartless.
	Just right.
	Hell yeah.
	There's no evidence of his height.
	Randy Newman is my god.
	Okay.
	Here is him explaining to Tucker Carlson...
	How this really went down.
	And remember, this is a person who represents people in the United States Congress.
	What specifically have I espoused that empowers threats to our country?
	You're peddling the narrative that the Trump administration is putting out, which also is the Putin narrative, because they're retweeting this with their Russian bots.
	So I'm working for Putin.
	What?
	What?
	I know!
	He is explaining that the narrative gets retweeted by Russian bots, but just listen how he spews it out, because that's all the information he really has.
	What specifically have I espoused that empowers threats to our country?
	You're peddling the narrative that the Trump administration is putting out, which also is the Putin narrative, because they're retweeting this with their Russian bots.
	This is...
	That's your representative out there.
	It's the Putin narrative because they're retweeting the Russian bots.
	Didn't you know that?
	I can't find his height.
	Ah, damn it.
	But I will say, you know, Yahoo, you know, they are in the old New York Times building.
	These guys are all in the same boat.
	They're all...
	I'm sure they all know what's going on.
	I want to just re-emphasize what PBS did when they started that little discussion about the Russians.
	Yes, I will play it because I think it's well worth it.
	And I had the teaser.
	Yeah, oh, the teaser.
	Oh, hold on.
	The teaser.
	What do you want, teaser first or the re-emphasis first?
	No, I don't need the re-emphasis.
	This is the teaser just to show that they just, this is what they're going to tell you.
	This is the meme.
	Come on the NewsHour, two different takes on the now public memo about the Russia investigation.
	That was the teaser.
	That's a teaser, and we already did the front thing too many times.
	But I'm just saying, it's not about the Russian investigation.
	No, it's a procedural issue, which is very important, and I will say that.
	Get rid of this whole thing.
	This has to stop.
	This Section 702, this sucking up everybody's data.
	And by the way, we're doing it all to ourselves.
	This isn't about foreign intelligence something or other.
	It's about our own domestic spying.
	It's domestic spying for the purposes of...
	Political means.
	Yeah, for political reasons.
	For any reason.
	It's not really national security.
	And if I hear one more person say the Russians hacked our election, I'm going to puke.
	I'm so tired of just...
	I mean, Auntie Maxine, really...
	We don't have to play the whole thing, but maybe we should...
	I finally found her response to the State of the Union...
	Oh, right.
	I forgot you did one.
	Yeah, and it didn't air until the next day, and it was Angela Rye, apparently, who was a commentator on CNN. She may still do that from time to time.
	She now has her own show on BET called State of the Union.
	Yeah, it is State of the Union.
	Is that what it's called?
	Oh, shit.
	Anyway, she has some kind of show over there that she brought Maxine on.
	And you tell me when you've had enough of it, but Maxine, Miss Waters, goes through the entire list of stuff, really from a year and a half to two years ago, which is an irksome list because it's the things that we know have been debunked that were not true, but they've been presented in such a way that they are now fact and accepted as fact.
	Oh yeah.
	I hate that.
	We both hate it because we both have suffered under this.
	Where a media meme gets out and then before you know it, you're a dick because you did something or people think you did something.
	Oh yeah, my mouse thing.
	Your mouse story.
	Yeah, that's a good example.
	Exactly.
	Hello.
	I'm Maxine Waters, a member of Congress, serving California's 43rd Congressional District, and the ranking member of the House Committee on Financial Services.
	Yesterday, Donald Trump had the audacity to call upon people to set aside differences, when in reality, he has divided Americans in ways no other modern president has doubted.
	I guess I'm not allowed to do that anymore, to harp on her poor command of the English language because it's racist.
	She said modern?
	Modern, yeah, modern.
	Yeah, you're racist for saying that.
	Yeah, she really does not have proper command of the English language, and I find it also annoying.
	That's not a good example.
	...committee on financial services.
	Yesterday, Donald Trump had the audacity to call upon people to set aside differences when in reality he has divided Americans in ways no other modern president has done.
	We must look at his State of the Union address in the context of all of the ways he defined himself during his campaign and throughout his first year as president.
	response to the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville when he defended white supremacists.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And the KKK. Oh, yeah.
	And the KKK. Yeah, he never defended any either.
	That's bull crap.
	But you're right.
	It's become fact.
	It continues.
	Even after a young woman protesting against racism was killed by a white supremacist.
	No, no.
	She had a heart attack.
	None of that was good.
	And by the way, we never talked about the guy who was chasing the guy in the car with a shotgun.
	No.
	And whatever happened to that guy?
	Did he just disintegrate?
	The guy who drove the car.
	Seriously, what happened to him?
	He probably put him in front of a judge and they found out what the real story was and they let him go.
	That's what happened.
	I'd like to know what happened to him.
	They're not going to report that.
	It doesn't fit the narrative.
	Which is being retweeted by Russian bots.
	After Trump defended white supremacists, targeted Muslims with his travel ban.
	Targeted Muslims with his travel ban.
	You could say countries, but okay.
	Described Mexicans as rapists and mocked people with disabilities.
	Well, if that's true, it was only one.
	And it was not people, it was a reporter.
	So, dubious.
	It's impossible to believe him when he tries to declare that he wants to bring the country together.
	One speech cannot and does not make Donald Trump presidential.
	This is because she's irked that he got high numbers, even from negative number touting outlets.
	One speech doesn't do it, people.
	He's not presidential, and he never will be presidential.
	He claims that he's bringing people together, but make no mistake, he is a dangerous, unprincipled, divisive, and shameful racist.
	Trump often works to convince dissatisfied elements in our society that all of their problems are caused by people of color.
	He stokes racial...
	What?
	Where did he do that?
	He claims that he's bringing people together, but make no mistake, he is a dangerous, unprincipled, divisive, and shameful racist.
	Trump often works to convince dissatisfied elements in our society that all of their problems are caused by people of color.
	This is to make him Hitler, because Hitler did that with the Jews.
	I don't think I ever heard him say, America, your problem is black America.
	Maybe I missed it.
	He stokes racial animosity by referring to black NFL players as sons of bitches and demonizing immigrants from Haiti and Africa.
	This president, with his vulgarity and his disrespect for women and people of color, is a terrible role model for our children.
	Whenever he appears on TV, there should be a disclaimer that says, this may not be acceptable for children.
	Okay, I'm not against that.
	I think that would be funny, because more kids would want to see it.
	Not only has Donald Trump failed on domestic policy, he is leading us in the wrong direction in the world.
	He withdrew the United States from the Paris Agreement on climate change, despite the participation of nearly every country in the world.
	He routinely insults our democratic allies while showing admiration for dictator Vladimir Putin, despite the fact that Russia interfered with our election and undermined our democracy.
	He refused to certify the Iran nuclear agreement.
	I mean, you want to hear the rest of it?
	I mean, she just drones on.
	I'm sorry.
	I know when you do this, you always make a mistake.
	You don't, you know, you say...
	Just let it play until you want me to stop.
	Oh, if you like it, it's good.
	Then let's go.
	I enjoy listening to what she has to say.
	Okay.
	Which has prevented Iran from developing nuclear weapons.
	Oh, nuclear oil.
	He is isolating us with his inept trade policies, withdrawing the United States from trade agreements without negotiating viable alternatives.
	My remarks today are not merely a response to this President's State of the Union address.
	They are a warning to the American people.
	A warning.
	That this president does not deserve to represent us, and that he's taken America down the road to isolation and division.
	Donald Trump constantly brags about himself, but he does not take the time to learn about public policy or study the many challenges facing the United States and the world, and he has no understanding of true leadership.
	He attempts to take credit for economic growth but refuses to acknowledge that he inherited our nation's thriving economy from our nation's first black president.
	Under President Obama, the unemployment rate fell from 10% to 4.8%, and the African American unemployment rate fell 9 percentage points.
	Unfortunately, the Republicans in Congress, led by Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell, are terribly irresponsible in the way in which they enable him and refuse to confront him.
	And they have abdicated their responsibility to the citizens of this nation by condoning his actions.
	We, as Democrats, are committed to a growing economy that leaves no one behind.
	We're committed to an economy that protects consumers.
	Yeah, now's the whole pitch for the Democratic Party.
	And provides good jobs.
	You can stop it now.
	We know the pitch.
	Hit it!
	So to wrap this up, John...
	I'm looking now at the testimony, the Fusion GPS testimony, which, you know, this was released, and this is much more interesting than the memo.
	So the law firm that paid him, really passing on money from the DNC and the Hillary campaign, if there's a difference, that's Perkins Coie?
	Is it C-O-I-E? How do you pronounce that?
	Coie?
	I don't know how you pronounce it, but they're up in Seattle.
	Okay.
	So their banking records were also subpoenaed, and in the transcript of this case, there are three...
	Uh, three names have been redacted and the amounts, although all the other amounts seem to be around $100,000.
	I'm just going to read a little bit from this since we haven't done that.
	Uh, plaintiff's interactions with media entities will provide equally pertinent investigative leads.
	Uh, here we go.
	For example, the committee has information that plaintiff, that would be, um, um, steal.
	Yes, brokered meetings.
	Oh, no, not steal.
	Um, ah, Well, Steele was sued.
	Right.
	I think Fusion GPS. Yeah, Fusion GPS. Okay.
	The committee has information that plaintiff brokered meetings for dossier author Christopher Steele with at least five major media outlets in September 2016, including Yahoo News, which specifically reported on the facts citing information it received from a, quote, single, well-placed Western intelligence source.
	The additional transactions requested by the committee therefore include transactions related to plaintiff's work on behalf of another media outlet in which plaintiff could have seeded its research.
	Media Company A, and that's redacted.
	Additionally, the committee seeks transactions related to three individual journalists, redacted.
	Each of whom have reported on or have been quoted in articles regarding topics related to the committee's investigation, some of which were published as recently as October 2017.
	I feel we need to know what names they are.
	We can probably deduce their names.
	Yes, but this is the part.
	Why wouldn't you name them?
	I think this is getting pretty important now.
	Is it possible that there are actually spooks?
	Journalists spooks and places crawling with them.
	Man, you are on fire today.
	And with that, I would like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. What is this dance for?
	Constructing memos.
	Dvorak!
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	In the morning, all boots on the ground, feet in the air.
	Subs in the water.
	And all the dames and knights out there.
	In the morning to everybody in the troll room.
	NoagendaStream.com.
	Some problems with the chat widget today.
	So it may not have as many trolls.
	It's actually kind of quiet.
	Trolls are...
	This is the chat widget.
	Not enough trolls.
	The troll room is bare.
	That's very sad.
	They're all getting ready for the Super Bowl.
	They are indeed.
	And in the morning to ComicsterBlogger.
	He brought us the...
	Adorable.
	Just adorbs.
	Artwork.
	This is how we talk these days, John.
	Adorbs.
	Adorbs.
	It's adorbs.
	The adorbs artwork.
	Adorbs.
	Hell yeah.
	Oh yeah.
	Hey, you don't have sushi, you have soush.
	It's delish.
	Soush, man.
	I got some soush.
	Soush is delish.
	Soush.
	You've heard this.
	I know I'm not alone in recognizing this.
	I had...
	I was at...
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I was down when I was in L.A. recently.
	I was having something to eat with Victoria Recano.
	Ah, Victoria.
	How's she doing?
	My producer, Jennifer.
	Well, we're sitting there at some little place, and she uses the word delish.
	Oh, yes.
	She would use that word.
	Oh, yeah.
	And of course I called her out on it.
	Yes.
	Because I'm a douchebag.
	I'm calling people out when they say delish in front of me.
	You see, you're doing it wrong.
	You just got to go right back at them and start using words like, oh yes, that's adorbs.
	Adorbs.
	That's a new one.
	And dits.
	I say dits instead of ditto, dits.
	But that has a double entendre.
	I know.
	I'm a podcaster, so there you go.
	All right, so we have...
	I want to thank Commister Blogger.
	He did the artwork for episode 1004, Micro Livestock.
	It was a very sad-looking bug being eaten, as Nicole Kidman does, and we appreciate the work that Commister Blogger did, and all of our artists do.
	Go to noagendaartgenerator.com.
	That's where you can look at all the art.
	Upload your own if you want.
	We usually choose it right after the show.
	We use it for newsletters, for pre-announcements, and it's also on clothing and mugs at noagendashop.com, which benefits the show, the shop, and the artists.
	And thank you all for your courage.
	So I'm going to propose a change in the structure of today's show.
	Whoa!
	Format change?
	Mid-show?
	Well, just a one-time only.
	One-time, one-time only promise?
	I want to...
	I want to do both donation segments at once because the total of donations that we have to read is only 23.
	It's pathetic.
	Yeah, but that kind of messes up the blockage, man.
	I got birthdays, I got a nighting.
	You can do the birthdays and I do the whole thing.
	Why do you want to do that?
	Because there's only 23.
	Yeah, but that doesn't matter.
	No, but we need the break in the show as a natural segue from block to block.
	Okay, I proposed it to everybody.
	You heard me.
	Overruled, vetoed.
	All right, here we go.
	We have an interesting donation off the top here, which is $770 from...
	Oh, man, it's Chef Rob.
	Robble Alley?
	Chef Rob.
	But he's splitting it into two.
	He needs a double dedouching for Adam C. Banks and Chef Rob.
	This is Rob.
	You've been dedouched.
	Maybe it's Robo.
	Robo.
	You've been dedouched.
	Okay, so he has a...
	It was a complicated situation.
	He sent it to the old thing and became a pain in the ass.
	But he's getting credit for this.
	He also wanted to call out another chef whose name I keep forgetting.
	Let me get its name here.
	Do-do-do-do-do.
	Chef Rob McHugh is a douchebag.
	Now Rob, who was at the meetup in New York, this other chef, there's a Chef Royale going on here.
	These are all celebrity style chefs.
	McHugh, he's famous.
	This guy's famous.
	They're all kind of...
	Chef Rob is famous?
	Yeah, he is kind of famous.
	In fact, Chef Rob McHugh is...
	Reality TV chef to helm new gastropub in Upper West Side.
	Ooh, nice.
	So he's got something going on there, and maybe we can get a free meal.
	Got to go to New York.
	And now this chef, Chef Robley, or his name is Bladakis, I believe.
	They're all...
	I don't know if they all hate each other or they love each other or they're calling each other out, but they all listen to the show.
	So we have a bunch of chefs listening to the show.
	Well, it's because of you, my friend, because they listen to you and go, wrong again, Dvorak.
	Yeah, well, there's that.
	He's just sitting there, wrong again.
	He said, what about Beaujolais?
	Obviously, he's never been there.
	Wrong again, Dvorak.
	How is Morgone has that status?
	This is what happened.
	I used his email.
	Let's see if I got a note from here.
	He wanted to be, I think we got him.
	He's got his call-ups.
	He doesn't have a request for anything.
	We'll run it for him.
	All right.
	So that's our top donor.
	Well, thank you, Chef.
	What is the name of his restaurant?
	Let's plug his restaurant.
	Thank you, Chef.
	He's right now, I think he's a caterer.
	He's in between restaurants?
	I think he's a caterer at the moment.
	Ah, okay.
	He doesn't never send us his restaurants.
	We'll plug all these chefs' restaurants on a future show.
	Yes.
	So send us what you want plugged.
	McHugh, you know, he's a Bravo guy.
	Bravo TV. Oh, okay.
	And he's also Rob McHugh, Chef Robley and Company.
	Do these guys have cookbooks I can purchase?
	I've really gotten into cooking from books.
	I know, it irks them to you, but some people don't have that natural chemical talent you have.
	Well, we'll catch up to all these guys.
	All right.
	I'm looking here at a picture of Rob McHugh.
	He has a mohawk and his shirt is out.
	The chef with a mohawk.
	The chef with a mohawk.
	Nice, nice, nice.
	All right.
	No Agenda chef.
	He's the official chef of the No Agenda show.
	Well, he is, even though he never has donated.
	Or has ever cooked anything for us.
	None of these guys have.
	I have a great...
	This one, I have to say, this is a great recipe.
	I have a great recipe for a broccoli soup using ginger and bergamot orange.
	It's unbelievably flavorful.
	I'll be publishing that shortly.
	Yeah, let's publish that.
	That sounds good.
	And I have a vegan version.
	I've decided I'm going to make all my recipes vegan.
	Oh, I smell a book.
	Yeah, another book that you'll never see.
	Yeah.
	The vegan yuck book.
	Just use the words I smell.
	Okay.
	Black Knight.
	Sab Swiss 501.
	To make it short, with this donation, I will become a baronet.
	Nice.
	I'd like to ask for some job karma from my very close friend.
	Daniel, I see this thing.
	You know what I didn't do?
	I didn't readjust this spreadsheet.
	I'm sure I'm asking it all at once.
	Okay, I got it.
	Daniel Boone, and to tease him a bit, please also play the jingles, Trump is president, and Putin's Don't Worry, Be Happy.
	Thank you very much, Black Knights.
	Sob Swiss, and I think 501 is...
	That related to 105 backwards?
	Was that part of our promotion?
	I like it.
	Not that I know of.
	I like it.
	He's Trump!
	He's Trump!
	the president.
	Don't worry.
	Don't worry.
	Be happy.
	Don't worry.
	Be happy.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Okay, Black Knight.
	That was Black Knight's app switch.
	501 from him.
	We got Sir Bram of the Upper Scandinavia as our associate executive producer.
	We only have three total.
	233.33.
	TDI is part of a mission scandal.
	After five years, got back 80% of original purchase price.
	Please get...
	Whoa!
	That's nice.
	Have you seen that new documentary on Netflix about this called Dirty Money?
	No.
	Oh, my God.
	This is really a story.
	It goes much further than just what has really been reported.
	Of course, it starts off with the Volkswagen invented by Hitler.
	Woo-hoo!
	He got 80% back from his original purchase price.
	That's fantastic.
	That's fantastic.
	No wonder he gave it to $233.
	Please get a shape-shifting Jew and karma for all.
	Sir Bram.
	Step right this way.
	You've got karma.
	You've got karma.
	Yay!
	Amen.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	That's it.
	That's all we got.
	Oh, that's it.
	I would have continued, but you've vetoed the idea, so I can't.
	I have vetoed it, and it's programming, man.
	It's for programming.
	That would be a little more liberal.
	A little more liberal.
	We can do stuff, you know what I mean?
	Hey, man.
	Listen, man.
	Not so rigid.
	Putin paid me to podcast, baby.
	So, you know, I got to stick to the program.
	So, thank you very much, executive producer and two associate executive producers.
	It is appreciated that you were there, bringing us some value for the value you have received, and we are very appreciative.
	We'll be thanking a few more people, $50 and over, apparently about 20, in our second segment known as the D-Block.
	Meantime, remember to tune in Thursday when we celebrate our correct prediction about the Super Bowl.
	And you can use this today when you're huddled around your little telescreen.
	Tell them about the show!
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water.
	Order.
	Shut up, slave.
	Squirrel.
	Shut up, slave.
	Oh, I wanted to add something to the Trump rotation list.
	Yeah.
	Which, apparently we also have a domain name.
	It's not forwarding yet, but thetrumplist.com.
	Someone created that.
	I think Chris Wilson.
	Sir Chris there in Australia.
	Oh, Chris, I'll send you the list.
	Yeah.
	Well, no.
	Okay, yes.
	Well, you could just make a.htm page and you could forward to it.
	That's what I'm going to do.
	Oh, okay.
	I'll send him the, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Worse than Nixon.
	I've heard a lot of this.
	Worse than Nixon.
	Worse than Nixon.
	Also, I've been tracking the LGBTQIAAP acronym for a long time.
	In fact, I think this show has the longest history of tracking this acronym.
	Yes, definitely.
	We now add a K to the mix.
	The K? Yes, so it now is...
	For Nights?
	No Agenda Nights?
	I wish.
	L-G-B-B-T-Q-Q-I-A-A-P-K. And the K is for a group of homosexual men who identify as kink.
	Aren't they just homosexual men?
	No.
	Kink.
	It's like you can identify...
	They're different?
	Yes.
	You can identify as queer.
	So we have lesbian, gay, bisexual, bicurious, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, allied, pansexual, and kink.
	Notice the only thing in there is...
	What does a kink do that makes them special?
	Oh.
	You know, I just listen to my gay sources and I just take it as fact.
	Do you have to wear a certain colored handkerchief in your left back pocket?
	Let me see if I can find anything on the book of knowledge for this.
	Ah, yes.
	Kink.
	Okay.
	This is people who are into men.
	Men, men, men.
	Oh, geez.
	Woo!
	Okay.
	Didn't want to see that page.
	I do not recommend searching for this.
	Yeah, I think it's bondage.
	Like, men have no love, no anything, just bondage.
	I don't know, we should get a full-on description.
	I'm sure we have kinks in our audience.
	We probably do.
	So if you're kink, let us know exactly how you identify.
	Yeah, we want a clean, safe for the kitties memo describing a situation at a high level.
	A memo.
	We want a memo.
	We want a memo with a subject line.
	Actually, this was kind of more for the donation segment.
	I held on to it.
	You know, what's his name?
	Peterson, the Scandinavian professor.
	Yeah, he sent me his book and signed it.
	Oh, nice.
	I couldn't even get Scott Adams to sign his book for me.
	Good work.
	Well, I got a book from Adams, too, and I didn't get it signed.
	It came from central casting.
	It never showed up as Scott Smith.
	That's the problem.
	So he was on the Joe Rogan show.
	And I have to have a clip from it because, you know, speaking of value for value, so the way he makes money now is, although we think it's not a good idea to use a third party like this, but he is kind of using the value for value model and he's doing it through Patreon.
	And apparently it's working out quite well.
	And you can read and you can just see how much money is committed to somebody on a monthly basis or Episodic basis or however that works.
	And he's doing about, last time I checked, about $65,000 a month.
	Not bad!
	No, that's good.
	But he discussed this on Joe's show.
	If they let me speak, then I get to speak.
	And then more people support me on Patreon.
	It's like, hmm, that's annoying.
	It's like, goddamn capitalist.
	He's making more money off this ideological warfare.
	It's like, okay, fine.
	Let's go protest him.
	So they go protest me.
	And then that goes up on YouTube.
	And then my Patreon...
	Account goes way up.
	So it's like, they don't know what to do.
	And so one of the things they keep accusing me of, yeah, they keep accusing me of, like, hauling in the loot.
	And I think, well, look, here's the situation, guys.
	I give away everything I do online for free.
	It's free.
	And people are giving me money.
	They're just sending it to me.
	I'm not twisting their own, I'm not even asking them for it.
	Well, I guess that's not exactly right, because I set up the Patreon account, but that's more complicated than it looks.
	A lot of that was curiosity.
	Now, here's the money quote.
	I figured out how to monetize social justice warriors.
	That's funny.
	Joe Rogan, the modern Oprah, everybody.
	Go cry at Joe's.
	Well, good for him.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	The problem is what happens when Patreon goes belly up.
	Patreon is not the way to go.
	So our producer there had gotten 85% of his Volkswagen, his five-year-old VW, he had gotten that back.
	They were forced to buy back.
	They were forced to buy back half a million cars.
	Yes.
	And they're still doing fine.
	Well, but here's the latest news.
	German carmakers, including Volkswagen, are under fire for reportedly funding experiments which tested diesel exhaust fumes on monkeys and humans.
	According to the New York Times, a study was carried out in 2014 designed to defend diesel fumes, which were earlier revealed to be carcinogenic.
	The experiment reportedly made 10 monkeys in airtight chambers inhale fumes from a diesel Volkswagen Beetle.
	They can't get a break over there.
	Where's Mengele to help them do those experiments?
	Just a little tip from your No Agenda podcast.
	Knowing a lot about the cosmetics industry.
	There's always been, oh, they tested on animals.
	If you come across any cosmetics that say animal-friendly, you can bet that they're tested on animals.
	But it's just a great marketing ploy, and I know that it's done, and I've seen it, and I understand how it works.
	So they do test on animals, but they say it's animal-friendly.
	I've never seen that moniker, but I've seen no animal testing used.
	That's different.
	Sure, sure, sure.
	But if it says animal-friendly, then you know it's a big scam.
	Well, either that or it's makeup that can be used by animals.
	Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying.
	But the implication is, oh, it's, you know, it's always friendly.
	It's animal friendly.
	Not tested.
	Oh, yeah, that's all good.
	All right.
	Okay, we have some...
	Actually, I should do the...
	I should do the jingle.
	And now it's time for your sexual harassment update.
	That's right.
	It's time for your sexual harassment update.
	It all started with Harvey Weinstein, which, to revisit, we believe was outed to stop Hillary Clinton from getting involved in running for the 2020 election.
	Don't think that worked out too well.
	No, it didn't work at all.
	She's still running.
	Ready for Hillary!
	So we had a new story come out.
	We were kind of waiting for Uma Thurman to tell us what happened to her.
	We had seen her previously saying, I'm too angry to talk about it now, and apparently she was now ready.
	The latest high profile figure to step forward, Uma Thurman accusing Mr Weinstein of assaulting her in the 1990s.
	And there has been, as I was saying earlier, some reaction to that from his people.
	Yes, that's right.
	I mean, if you cast your minds back to the mid-1990s and the film Pulp Fiction, which famously starred Uma Thurman, and many would argue...
	Was perhaps the film that, more than any other, put Miramax Films, the company run by Harvey Weinstein, on the map.
	He produced that film.
	Now, what Uma Thurman has said in a newspaper interview is that in the aftermath of that, in hotel rooms in both London and in Paris, Harvey Weinstein, she alleges, tried to force himself on her.
	In fact, in the interview, she described wriggling away from him.
	him she said almost like a lizard and making good her escape now harvey weinstein through his spokesman has said that any incident that took place was a result of him misreading her signals and afterwards at 2001 can film festival when quentin tarantino challenged him about it he apologized to him a thurman and uh so the account of that is really nasty well that's not the story i got oh what did you get
	this is a slightly different story that one makes a that one was a very positive story Insofar as Tarantino is involved, this one here is not.
	And actress Uma Thurman is accusing Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein of sexual misconduct.
	Thurman told the New York Times that Weinstein made unwanted sexual advances towards her in London back in the 1990s.
	Weinstein has denied all of the allegations.
	She also says that rejecting those advances impacted her relationship with director Quentin Tarantino.
	While their relationship was under strain, she claims Tarantino forced her to perform a dangerous car stunt while filming the movie Kill Bill Vol.
	1.
	She crashed the car into a tree and was hospitalized with damaged knees and a concussion.
	This is a slightly different take.
	Yeah, it's a different...
	Well, the first one's from the BBC. It has to be kind of proper over there.
	But the victim, and I feel really bad for Rose McGowan, who, you know, was she not ground zero of the Harvey Weinstein allegations?
	At this point?
	I believe so.
	Well, she's definitely the one who came out with the most material, and she's the one who was raped.
	Yes, and she is under fire.
	I mean, I have three clips here, and really what is happening to this woman is beyond...
	I mean, I fear for her.
	She doesn't look like she's taking any of this very well.
	She has a book called Brave, which she was out at Barnes& Noble.
	And she's getting attacked from all sides, strangely enough.
	Yeah, she is getting attacked a lot.
	She's getting attacked by the trans community.
	Who, I guess, feel that she's not saying, this also happens to trans women.
	I can see no other reason for them to do it.
	Here's a heckler, which she dealt with, and then you can just feel the...
	Well, before you play that, we should listen for this, because I haven't heard this clip, but I do know that she thinks the heckler was bought and paid for by...
	Could be.
	Yeah.
	Could be.
	Where did you hear this?
	It was just one of the things passing through the gossip channels.
	Although what the heckler says is true.
	Trans women, men who have transitioned to women, are being killed, they're being attacked.
	It's definitely dangerous in certain places to be a trans woman.
	So there's no doubt she's saying something that's true.
	But it's got to do with McGowan.
	Exactly.
	And really the point is, you know, you're not talking about us.
	No, I'm sorry.
	I think she had said on RuPaul...
	Why do I even know this?
	On Cory Booker's podcast...
	Actually, it was really RuPaul's podcast, not RuPaul Booker.
	That, well, you know, trans women don't really know what it's like to be a woman, to go through a sexuality change, menstruation, and a lot...
	You and I can't really discuss this.
	We can't look at it from any angle.
	But I think that angered a group.
	I have a suggestion.
	Talk about what you said I recall.
	Trans women are dying.
	And you said that we, as trans women, are not like regular women.
	We get raped more often.
	We go to domestic violence more often.
	A trans woman was killed here a few blocks.
	I have been followed home.
	So have I. So have I. So have I. We're the same.
	My point was we are the same.
	There's an entire show called IV Channel, a network dedicated 24 hours a day to women getting abused, murdered, sexualized, and violated.
	And you are too, sister.
	It's the same.
	And trans women go to domestic violence.
	And you do nothing for them.
	Trans women are in men's prisons.
	And what have you done for them?
	What have you done for women?
	Lots of things.
	I've done lots of things too.
	You don't know my life.
	Don't sit down.
	Sit down.
	Sit down.
	Enough.
	Get lost.
	Congratulations.
	So am I. Genocide.
	This is the AIDS crisis all over again.
	And this is white.
	Sit.
	Shut up.
	This is just interesting, and she'll go into, and she's really angry now, but the idea is that cis feminism is hurting transgender women.
	I mean, what we're seeing here is more evidence that even if you want to be a woman, women really don't get together well either.
	Men don't suck.
	Women don't suck.
	All people suck.
	But this idea that women will all stick together is proof that it's not happening.
	You're so boring.
	Don't label me, sister.
	Don't put your labels on me.
	Don't you fucking do that.
	Don't worry about that.
	Do not put your labels on me.
	There's some language in this.
	Leave me alone.
	I do not subscribe your language.
	You do not put labels on me or anybody.
	Step the fuck back.
	What I do is for the fucking world, and you should be fucking grateful.
	So shut the fuck up.
	Get off my back.
	What have you done?
	I know what I've done.
	God damn it.
	We love you.
	We love you.
	Don't worry about it.
	I'm not worried.
	I'm fucking mad for the lies.
	I'm mad at the stereotypes.
	I'm mad that you put shit on me because I have a fucking vagina and I'm white or I'm black or I'm yellow or I'm purple.
	Fuck off!
	All of us want to say it.
	I just do.
	Thank you.
	I'm very happy she just said that.
	She's probably the only person now who can say these things and she is.
	Stop identifying me by what I have between my legs or the color of my skin.
	Yeah.
	And there's a reasonably long piece that I think ABC did on Rose McGowan, and I have two clips from this.
	And this first one sets up the second one.
	Your former Charmed co-star, Alyssa Milano, gets a lot of credit for helping me to go viral.
	So?
	Are you proud of her?
	I don't like her.
	Why?
	Because I think she's a lie.
	Why?
	Do you think I don't know these people?
	I'm not looking at this from the outside.
	I have a lot of experience.
	I know she's married to a CAA agent.
	Do the math.
	Who's behind Time's Up?
	CAA. Where do they meet?
	CAA. Who needs good PR? CAA. Who are part of the pimp problem?
	CAA. These are very powerful people you're talking about.
	They are.
	So am I. So we've been looking for the agency that was behind a lot of this, and Marky Mark's agency, which turns out to be CAA, and I'll get into the second clip in a minute.
	She believes that CAA is really a big player in the Harvey Weinstein setups for all of these women.
	The thing I wanted to point out is when you hear her speak in this piece, doesn't it sound exactly like when we listen to CSI Miami show?
	Doesn't it sound just like it's acted?
	I'm not saying she is, but it hit me.
	It's like, wow, this sounds like one of those really bad TV shows you like to play clips from.
	Yeah, it does a little bit now that you mention it.
	Let me see if I can find an example.
	Here's an example.
	We have one hour to discover which of these PE devices is capable of...
	No, it's got to be one of those soft-spoken clips.
	That would be CSI Miami.
	That would be the best.
	No, that's the cyber one.
	They've got a lot of these, interestingly enough.
	I do.
	Let me see if we have a CSI Miami.
	No, we don't.
	Just listen to her again, though, just for a second.
	Why is this not working?
	I'll grab some CSI Miami.
	Yeah, you should.
	Listen to this.
	I'm not looking at this from the outside.
	I have a lot of experience.
	I know she's married to a CIA agent.
	We have to arrest them.
	Do the math.
	I will.
	I'll do the math.
	Who's behind Time's Up?
	Rotate.
	CAA. What do you need?
	CAA. Zoom.
	I like the way she says CAA as though it sounds like CIA. And maybe that's purposeful.
	Here's the full segment about what I would just call allegations.
	It's not like people are dancing in our graves.
	People in fancy dresses.
	So now she's referring to the Golden Globes.
	Remember I said these activists, it looked like Bring Your Negro to Work Day, which was really offensive to me, the whole thing.
	It turns out that was pretty much true.
	It was all set up, set up by CAA. They started the times up.
	They've co-opted Me Too.
	Why?
	It's not like people are dancing in our graves.
	You'll hear.
	People in fancy dresses.
	It's not like people are dancing in our graves.
	Black, of course, posing and living it up on the red carpet in the black stupid clothes that the stupid men wore.
	It's a lie.
	And I knew they were going to trot the activists out there for PR. It was one of the most important nights of the Me Too movement.
	Hollywood's biggest stars wearing black at the Golden Globes to rail against the system that allegedly allowed sexual misconduct to fester for decades.
	Yet one of the most crucial people in this saga wasn't there.
	Rose McGowan.
	For her, that night was all for show.
	Every time I thought about those black dresses, I would get a body flashback.
	Every time.
	Even right now.
	What do you mean by a body flashback?
	Feel him there.
	This is an international rapist, okay?
	This is the truth of what it is.
	This is an international rape factory.
	Every single place he ever stayed, there are people there set up to help him rape.
	This is how it went.
	This is what it was.
	People, women, girls would be said, oh, you have a meeting or come to a party.
	They would show up and that party is just him.
	Who got them there?
	there who are the assistants you're saying there was a machinery so i'm saying there's a massive machinery he is a sociopathic predator he thinks he's done nothing wrong i wish just one person would have stood up and said no more because so many people had so many chances to put a stop to this i like the international rape machine you Well, we have discussed this before, which is that there were enablers, mostly women, That we're part of the scheme.
	But, you know, it is foolish to think that the CIA, you brought it up, is not involved in Hollywood movies.
	We know they are.
	We know that they finance...
	Oh yeah, Argo?
	Yeah.
	The funny thing about Argo, I will mention, I mentioned it when it happened.
	Argo was directed by...
	What's his name of the duo?
	Ben.
	Who?
	Affleck.
	Yeah, Affleck.
	It was directed by Affleck.
	It was CIA-funded, I believe.
	CIA and State Department.
	It said it right in the credits.
	Thanks to Huma Abedin.
	It got nominated for Best Picture, Best Actress, Best This, Best That, but not Best Director.
	Fuck that guy.
	It was pretty much a rejection of the fact that, okay, we'll let you go this far, but you're not getting an award for this movie, this CIA film.
	And it won the best movie.
	Did it?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Remember Michelle Obama with that whole awkward, she gave the award from, she had two military guys there, and she did it from the White House.
	Oh, yeah.
	It was like a big, big blowjob for Ben.
	Ben's big blowjob.
	There's a reality show for you.
	Well, yes, I would say, why would the CIA be involved?
	So when Rose McGowan is saying, CAA, CAA, CAA, yes, it's CAA, and maybe that's all a joke, too.
	You know how they're always like, hey, we'll have an agency, we'll call it CAA, huh?
	But the trafficking of women through modeling agencies and talent agencies is well known.
	It's just one of those things people don't talk about because they work in the business and they don't want to get kicked out of the business.
	So you're thinking that because she's so adamant about discussing this like a maniac, they're going to drug her or have her say something stupid and then shoot her?
	Oh man, I hope not.
	This is a woman in peril.
	She needs help.
	She really does.
	Does she have a Patreon?
	Final clip today.
	No, I'm serious.
	It's messed up.
	She needs help.
	She really does.
	She's on edge.
	Every time I've seen her recently, she is so nervous and she seems like she's on the edge of a nervous breakdown.
	Yes.
	And I feel bad.
	Look at what's happened.
	I'm pretty sure she came out with the first allegations against Weinstein.
	And then she's been pushed to the side, doesn't get invited, you know, shut up, go away, no work.
	But she's definitely not going to get work.
	No, she gets heckled.
	You know, I'm saying, it's always, oh, like Amy Winehouse, you know, until she died.
	Oh, if only we knew!
	You know!
	Here's Katie Royf.
	A few months ago.
	She is a well-known feminist.
	Yeah, you want to say something?
	No, it's just that noise you made.
	It's a variation on the standard of the classic.
	Well, is it usable?
	I think it might be.
	You might as well put a point down.
	I put the point down.
	Okay.
	Katie Royf.
	She's a well-known feminist, and she is under fire.
	A few months ago, Harper's Magazine asked me to write an article on the Me Too movement.
	Stop!
	I'm a feminist writer and professor who's disagreed with other feminists in the past.
	Usually, people wait to read what I have to write before getting angry about it.
	Not this time.
	Before the magazine article had even been published, thousands of people took to Twitter, furious at me for rumors about what might be in the piece.
	Total strangers called me a garbage person, a ghoul, human scum.
	They threatened that my career was over and said obscene things not fit for Sunday morning or any morning.
	My children, of course, were reading and hearing all of this.
	What was my crime?
	Having doubts about the excesses of Me Too, even as I shared its goals?
	Departing slightly from the officially accepted feminist position?
	What happened to speaking my truth?
	It felt like there was a mob with torches outside my window.
	In his novel, 1984, George Orwell created a phrase for my accusers, thought police.
	If we as a culture are going to sort through the very tangled question of what constitutes an abuse of male power, we need to be able to hear, really hear, lots of different opinions.
	Is asking a woman for her phone number an abuse of power?
	Does the distinction between sleazy behavior and a criminal act matter?
	Is it okay to try people in the press?
	Lots of good and reasonable people will disagree about the answers to these questions.
	If we want a true reckoning, it means listening to authentically conflicting points of view from both women and men.
	Anyone whose feminist activism consists largely of hurling abuse at other women might want to take a look in the mirror.
	If we are calling other women human scum because they have ideas or politics that are different from ours, are we any different from Trump supporters tweeting lock her up at Hillary Clinton?
	With their politics of personal destruction, the hate and nastiness and name-calling, are these Twitter feminists any less bullying than the people we say we oppose?
	Isn't silencing women what we're fighting against?
	Nice piece.
	She's in trouble.
	Well, you know, I'm going to stop this whole discussion and right away say, none of this would be happening if it wasn't for Facebook and Twitter.
	I totally agree.
	Especially Facebook.
	And actually, all of this, all the hate and everything really lives much more on Facebook and online than in the real world.
	People aren't real.
	I mean, do you see people scouring at each other all the time on the street?
	No, but I had this situation.
	I'm leaving the bank, and some old homeless woman comes by, Chatterbox too, and she asked her some money.
	Oh, the worst kind!
	Well, in this case, yes.
	And so she asked me for some money, and so I gave her five or ten dollars or something like that.
	A few shekels, yes.
	So she goes on.
	She says, thank you so much.
	You know, you're the only one.
	And she goes on.
	She says, everybody is so hateful.
	She says, all I do is get, when I wander around and I ask, you know, I just want to get on the bus.
	I want to do this.
	I want to do that.
	Everybody hates.
	There's so much hate.
	You can't believe it.
	You have to be out here to experience it.
	And she went on and on and on and on about it.
	And she, of course, thanked me profusely because I was the only one she'd run into, I guess, in months.
	Not a hater.
	Who was not a big hater.
	Well, hate of her?
	Hate.
	Just hate.
	She just said, just a general, she said a general hate.
	Huh.
	Well, you know, she's out there, so yes, she would know.
	Yeah.
	So maybe there is.
	Well, the only mistake you made is you didn't record it.
	That would have been a great industry.
	We could have done a whole...
	Now that you mention it, you're right.
	It was a complete botch.
	Yeah.
	But I'll be more aware next time.
	Okay.
	Because I record these people on the street.
	I do it.
	I've done it.
	You can go to my YouTube channel and you find two or three of them on there where I get some guy.
	I like the guy with the sign.
	I'll have him explain stuff.
	And they're entertaining.
	It's interesting.
	But I never thought of that.
	And I didn't really have the gear with me.
	I didn't have my phone, which has a recorder on it, which is pretty good.
	I will add, as a no-agenda tip, if you're in dire straits and you need money, the best place to stand is outside the bank.
	This is a great idea, because you just were in the bank, you were surrounded by coin, you walk out, oh man, I was just...
	And likelihood that you were there and you got something out of the ATM? Genius.
	Well, the cops will bust you if you're hanging around an ATM, but...
	Anyway, she said there's a lot of hate going on.
	Well, California, I don't live in California, so that could also be a little more special for that region.
	Could be.
	The United Republic of California.
	I know people drive with a little more hate.
	Yeah.
	Well, there's definitely hate from Elizabeth Warren.
	She's gearing up.
	You know, she's gearing up.
	She's getting her to be fired up.
	Women know what it's like to get 75 cents on the dollar for doing the same jobs as their male co-workers.
	Oh, did you hear the hate?
	Their male co-workers.
	I feel so loved.
	I want to vote for you.
	Women know what it's like to get 75 cents on the dollar for doing the same jobs as their male co-workers, and to have good ideas that they put forward, and then those ideas get scooped up by some man who later decides it was his idea.
	Now, I wonder what happened to her.
	I wonder, because you know that happened to her.
	Obviously did, or she wouldn't be bitching about it.
	Yeah.
	Is that like, I guess it's a thing.
	It happens all the time.
	It happens all the time when you're a writer.
	It happens all the time.
	The stuff that we bring out in the show, somebody will steal it.
	So what?
	Yeah, you're right.
	People steal our stuff all the time.
	Yeah.
	I'm sick of it.
	And then those ideas get scooped up by some man who later decides it was his idea.
	Nevertheless, we persist.
	Stop.
	Yeah.
	Because women have never done that.
	They have never stolen an idea in their life.
	No.
	No.
	Especially not comedy writers.
	No.
	At all.
	...booped up by some man who later decides it was his idea.
	Nevertheless, we persist.
	Oh, yeah.
	Women know what it's like to get talked over in meetings, passed over for promotions, and screwed over in salary negotiations.
	Nevertheless, we persist.
	We persist.
	We persist and we march.
	We march in pink pussy hats.
	We march carrying handmade signs.
	We march with our moms and our sisters and our daughters.
	And last year, we marched in the largest single-day protest in the history of the entire world.
	Yes!
	That's probably not true.
	That would be a fact check false, probably, if you really looked into it.
	Fact check false?
	Yeah.
	Yeah!
	Woo!
	I guess I just left it on for a fact.
	Sorry.
	Yeah.
	Well, if you're going to play her, I get to play my Michael Moore, which is not as...
	I've been waiting for Michael Moore from you.
	Now, here's Michael Moore going nuts.
	But removing him and Dennis.
	And the whole disgusting love that had been Congress and interstate capital.
	We must remove and replace the system and the culture that gave us Trump in the first place.
	Tell Whitey.
	He did not just fall out of the sky and land in Queens.
	He is the result of a decades-long corporate takeover of our democracy and of us never correcting the three original sins of America.
	A nation founded on genocide, built on the backs of slaves, and maintained...
	Wait a minute.
	I thought the Dreamers built it.
	I'm confused.
	No, no, it was founded on genocide on the backs of slaves.
	Well, I thought it was the dreamers who built this country.
	Well, these changes.
	...women to second-class citizenship and economic disempowerment.
	That's how they've gotten away with it, as we seek to rid ourselves of Trump.
	We must also cleanse our American soul of its white male privilege, its voracious greed, and its enforced ignorance that has made a population of semi-aware and unaware people.
	Oh my goodness.
	So the whole country, slavery, genocide, and the subjugation of women has got to go.
	Well, I was reading a very disheartening article titled Inside a Public School Social Justice Factory.
	This is a school in Adena, Minnesota.
	I don't know if you had an opportunity to read this.
	No.
	Adena is an upscale suburb of Minneapolis.
	In 2013, a shift changed when Edina school leaders adopted the, quote, all-for-all strategic plan, a sweeping initiative that reordered the district's mission from an academic excellence for all students to racial equity.
	Now, this is important.
	Equity in this context does not mean equality or fairness.
	It means racial identity politics.
	So they had their all-for-all plan mandated henceforth, quote, all teaching and learning experiences would be viewed through the lens of racial equity and that only racially conscious teachers and administrators should be hired.
	Racially conscious.
	District leaders assured parents this would reduce Adina's racial achievement gap, which they attributed to barriers rooted in racial constructs and cultural misunderstandings.
	So, whatever minorities they're complaining about, not the Chinese, are getting poor grades because of this.
	Yes, correct.
	Well, yes, because of this, and this was meant to stop it.
	Spoiler alert, it didn't change anything.
	But what they have done as a result, the school system's obsession with white privilege now begins in kindergarten.
	At Adenas Highlands Elementary School, K2 students participate in the Melanin Project.
	The children trace their hands, color them to reflect their skin tone, and place the cutouts on a poster that reads, Stop thinking your skin color is better than anyone else's.
	Everyone is special.
	This is our favorite.
	Everybody's special.
	Everyone's special.
	Highlands Elementary's new racially conscious elementary school principal runs a blog for the school's community.
	On it, she approvingly posted pictures of Black Lives Matter propaganda, rainbow gay pride flags, along with pictures of protesters holding a banner proclaiming, Gay marriage is our right.
	On a more appropriate post, age-appropriate post, she recommended an ABC book for children entitled ABC is for Activists.
	Now, I got this book on Kindle.
	I just got to bring this up.
	So it's a children's book.
	And it's like Sesame Street.
	You learn your ABCs.
	Oh, yeah.
	Here we go.
	Here it comes.
	A. I'm already a J in the book.
	Hold on.
	I skipped ahead.
	Okay.
	A is for activist, advocate, abolitionist, ally, actively answering a call to action.
	Are you an activist?
	B is for banner.
	So wait a minute.
	Are you an activist is being asked of a little kid learning his ABCs or hers?
	Yes, sir.
	You're going to be outraged.
	B is for banner, bobbing in the sky, billowing in the breeze, because you're not shy.
	C is for co-op, cooperating cultures, creative counter to corporate vultures.
	Oh, and cats.
	Can you find the cats?
	Isn't it?
	They left out co-opt.
	Well, that, no, it was, oh yeah, co-opt with a T, yes.
	D, now this is a picture, every page has a picture.
	It's a picture of a blue donkey butting heads with a red elephant who has a militaristic hat on and is really looking angry.
	Little D, democracy, more than voting, you'll agree.
	Dictators detest it, donkeys don't get it, but you and me, we demand equality.
	This is literally propagandizing children.
	What's the name of this book again?
	I want a real hard copy.
	I ordered a hard copy too.
	A is for activist.
	E, equal rights.
	Black, brown, or white.
	Clean and healthy is a right.
	Every place we live and play.
	Environmental justice is the way.
	F is for feminist, for fairness in our pay, for freedom to flourish and choose our own way.
	G is for grass roots sprouting from below, sharing nutrients and the water's flow.
	Below the surface we're all connected, stronger together, we grow.
	H is for healthy food, a human right, honeydew, jicama.
	Just want to point out I said jicama properly.
	Nature's Delight.
	Hummus.
	What?
	Is Hiccama spelled with a J? I know.
	I know.
	It spelled you with a J. Okay.
	But they have it under H? Yes.
	It's a children's book.
	They need to learn early.
	Oh my God.
	Hummus.
	Hot dogs.
	Havarti cheese.
	Hot dogs.
	Yes.
	Healthy hot dogs, please.
	That was weird.
	and immigrant together we stand our histories are relevant an injury to one is an injury to all that didn't even rhyme people j is for justice yay for justice jia jing jang wanita jamal justice for the janitors justice for all wow And they have like a Marxist hand holding a broom.
	Kings are fine for story time.
	Knights are fun to play.
	This is with a K. But when we make decisions, we will choose the people's way.
	Oh, gee.
	Well, how come they didn't put knights under N? Well, they spelled this knights with a K because it's about dictating.
	Yeah, but they spelled jicama with a J and put it under H. So why wouldn't they put knights under N to be consistent with this kind of stupidity?
	I totally agree.
	L. LGBTQ. Love who you choose, cause love is true.
	Liberate your notions of limited emotions.
	Celebrate with pride.
	Our links of devotion.
	Okay, I think you're making me sick.
	You might as well just jump to the good one.
	I'm not going to read every 26 letters.
	I'm already at M. Megaphone marching.
	Movement into music.
	Hip hip hooray.
	It must be May Day.
	N is for no.
	No, no, no.
	Yes to what we want.
	No to what must go.
	No, no, no.
	Open minds operate best.
	Critical thinking over tests.
	Wisdom can't be memorized.
	Educate.
	Agitate.
	Organize.
	Wow.
	This is for a person learning their APCs.
	Yes.
	Not a person.
	A little person.
	A young child.
	Yeah.
	PP Peace March.
	Pro, pro, protest.
	Pow, pow, power to the PP people.
	Yay!
	I like doing this.
	I need a classroom.
	Q is for question questioning coercion.
	Ooh.
	Querying qualities counter false assertions.
	Radical reds, the headline said.
	Ruinous rioters, the rumors spread.
	Rebel rousing riffraff.
	Really?
	What?
	Yeah, that's what it says.
	Really?
	This is demented.
	S is for sun, soul, solar, superstar, stellar power, fuels all life, not just flowers, energized homes, cars and showers, silly, selfish scoundrels sucking on dinosaur sludge, boo, hiss.
	You think there's an agenda there?
	Well, you know, the funny thing is, this is kind of what's taught in some Californian middle schools.
	No, this is what's taught in schools.
	I mean, kind of.
	Listen to this.
	T is for trans, for trains, for tiaras, tulips, tractors, and tigers, too.
	Trust in the true.
	The he, she, they, that is you.
	Promoting transgenderism.
	You.
	Wow, this is weird.
	This whole book.
	Yeah, now you're almost done.
	Thank God.
	You is for weekends.
	You is for workers' rights.
	What is you is for?
	Let me finish it.
	Is it why or you?
	No, right now we're in the you.
	You?
	Yeah, let me just finish it.
	It'll make sense.
	No, it won't.
	You is for weekends.
	You is for workers' rights.
	Wait, that's not you.
	That's W. You for union.
	Union, yes!
	What is it?
	The Socialist Workers' Party of America put this together?
	V is for Vox.
	What?
	Did you say Fox?
	No, I said Vox.
	Did you say Box?
	No, Vox.
	Rocks?
	Blocks?
	Socks?
	Vox!
	Vox is the people, voice of the populi.
	Better we go see the letter D. Oh, the voice of the people is Democrat.
	Yeah, okay.
	W, wondrous world, wondrous we.
	We cannot be whole, we cannot be free unless we delight in diversity.
	X is for Malcolm, as in Malcolm X. History's lessons can be complex.
	Remember Parks?
	Remember King?
	Remember Malcolm?
	Let freedom ring.
	Y is for you and youth, your planet, your rights, your future, your truth.
	Y is for yes, yes, yes, yes.
	Z is for zapista, of course.
	Zaptista.
	What the hell is Zaptista?
	That's it?
	That's it.
	The Z? They didn't have Zebra or anything in there?
	Zaptista.
	What's a Zaptista?
	It's a Mexican revolutionary.
	Yeah.
	And a Zapatista, I bet.
	Let me just double check.
	Oh yeah, they have a little picture here of someone with a...
	You know, one of those...
	Yeah, Viva Zapata.
	Yeah, Z is for Zapatista, you're right.
	Of course it even says.
	So that's the Zapatista Army of National Liberation?
	Yeah.
	This is for kids?
	Yeah.
	I guess the message is, let the Mexicans take over California.
	I don't know what the message is, but...
	And I don't mean Mexican-Americans, I mean Mexicans.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Why is Zapatista in there?
	I don't know.
	It's a recruiting book.
	I know.
	I had exactly the same.
	I don't think it was worth wasting everyone's time reading it personally.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I thought you were enjoying it.
	Well, I just don't think it was because it was just horrible.
	It was a horrible, horrible, horrible product.
	I'm buying a copy.
	I'm buying a copy.
	Of course you are.
	I almost picked one up for you, and I thought, ah, screw them.
	Oh, thanks.
	So Sir Kristoff, we want to start off by thanking him.
	He's the knight of the blockchain at $104.
	His donations have gone down by 60%.
	He's from, it looks like Deutschland it seems, but it could be anywhere.
	That would be the knight of the blockchain.
	Ninth of the blockchain.
	Baron Latican in Houston, Texas, $104.
	These are holdovers from the 1004.
	And we have no 1005s.
	What's going on?
	I think the newsletter that I... I blame myself.
	Okay.
	The newsletter had no sales pitch, no nothing.
	It was just...
	It had the actual content.
	There was information in there.
	I'll tell my landlord.
	John at Dvorak.org.
	Sir Morgan, defender of the Hershey Highway in Hershey, Pennsylvania, $100.40.
	Hey, wait a minute.
	He says, I can't think of a better way to spend some of my birthday loot, but is he on the list?
	Well, maybe we didn't ask for a birthday.
	Maybe it's some birthday.
	Maybe that was...
	Let's just put him on the list.
	Maybe that was his way of asking.
	Very weird way of asking.
	Well, I'll put him on just in case.
	All right.
	Happy birthday.
	Sir Morgan defends the Hershey.
	John Robinet, $100.
	Parts unknown.
	Stephen or Stephen Butkay.
	I'm sure it's pronounced some other way than Butkay.
	81.
	It's a change for PayPal.
	Please call out ListenJed and his smoking hot wife, Marcella, for their new human resource, baby boy Stanislaus.
	Oh, that's nice.
	That's an interesting name.
	I'd like to introduce Stanislaus.
	Okay.
	Sir Patrick Coble, our buddy there in Murfreesboro area, 73.
	Travel karma.
	He needs travel karma.
	He's the Baron of Tennessee, and with Dame Sarah, he should get it.
	So we'll give it to him right now.
	You've got karma.
	Sir Got Name, Sebastopol, California, 6969.
	Baron Mark Tanner in Whittier, California, 6666.
	Alex Loesch in Chicago, Illinois.
	He did send in a lengthy note, which I don't have in front of me.
	Somebody sent me a...
	An old comic book and an old copy of Fortean Times.
	Have you ever looked at this Fortean Times?
	Fortean Times.
	Yeah, Fortean.
	Fortean.
	No.
	F-O-R-T-E-A-N. No.
	I guess it's defunct now, but there's like No Agenda magazine from the 90s.
	No.
	No.
	It's dynamite.
	Is there anything online I can look at?
	I don't know.
	Maybe.
	Fortean Times.
	I'm sure there is, actually.
	Scott Walderhair in Middle, someplace in Wisconsin.
	Middle, let me spread this out.
	Middleton, Wisconsin.
	55-10.
	Double nickels on the dime.
	Sir Tom Darry, double nickels on the dime, and he's in DeForest, DeForest, Wisconsin.
	Two Wisconsins in a row.
	Yeah, there's a go.
	Random number theory.
	Anonymous, 52-25.
	Sir Phenom of the Patriots Nation.
	I wonder if he's rooting for the Patriots.
	Yes, go Pats.
	It says it very clearly.
	Go Pats.
	Okay.
	Go Pats.
	Go Pats.
	Play that clip again.
	Come on.
	Play the ISO. Oh, I'm sorry.
	Yeah.
	You know I'll play it at the end of the show.
	Let's go!
	Summarize all the reporting on the Super Bowl.
	People that aren't listening to our show for the reporting, that's what they're getting.
	Let's go!
	Let's go!
	Matthew Dropko in Delaware, Ohio.
	$50.01 sent the following people.
	One, two, three, four, five of them all gave 50.
	Brian Matthews, parts announcer, Lucas of the Lost Bits.
	Matthew Januszewski, Sir Matthew Januszewski, I'm sure of it.
	Did we ever knight you, Matthew, I can't remember, in Chicago?
	Robert Clayson in London.
	Show me on the doll where he touched you with the sword.
	Robert Clayson in London, UK. And last but not least, Sir Brenton Farrell there in Oklahoma City.
	We think he's in Oklahoma City, but that's where his bank is anyway, $50.
	I want to thank all these folks for helping us on show.
	1005.
	1005.
	We appreciate everyone coming in for the Value for Value.
	I know you did put out a plea for more people jumping on the subscription.
	I don't know if that worked.
	I don't know.
	You track all that.
	It's just kind of up in the air.
	I can tell you this, the $33.33 monthly subscription seems to be very popular.
	Yeah, the most popular still.
	It's a value for value system.
	We do it.
	We give it away free, open source.
	Do as you like.
	If you found any value in this, we don't ask you to chip in.
	We don't ask you to listen to ads.
	Chip in.
	Chip in.
	No, we don't ask you to do any of that.
	Just tell us how much you thought it was worth.
	And tell us by sending it to our PayPal, which you can find at dvorak.org.
	And multiple karmas requested.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	We did get a note.
	I will read this note from Butler.
	Michael Butler.
	Who is telling me to go to the Sabbath poultry now to get quail.
	Okay.
	He says, and it's unbelievably delicious.
	I'm glad.
	So I'll go there and get some quail.
	You get a bunch of quail, and then you've got, uh...
	You actually...
	If I buy it on Monday, I could hang it until Friday and have a big dinner of fresh quail.
	You actually got on the rails and stood up the freight train that is the No Agenda show to stop to bring us this important message?
	It's Friday!
	Friday!
	Oh yeah, we've got a real big list.
	Anonymous says happy birthday to Ryan Rosenluchter, who, uh, that's Stephen, I believe.
	There's no race on, no, Ryan and the donation goes to Stephen.
	He celebrates on February 6th.
	Book K! Congratulates Jed and his smoking hot wife, Marcella, on their brand new human resource.
	And we say happy birthday to Sir Morgan, defender of the Hershey Highway.
	Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the Best Podcast in the Universe!
	Now, come gather round douchebags, producer and slave, as we all thank your brothers and sisters who gave us some of them nights, some of them days, for the titles some of them days, for the titles are a-changing.
	And we do want to congratulate Black Knight, Sir Saab Swiss, on his change of title.
	He's now a baronet, and as soon as he gets his barony, he'll be grabbing a protectorate.
	Did you see there was a dispute for the Peer's Committee regarding the use of Sir Real as a night name?
	I missed that somehow.
	You were copied.
	Yeah, but I thought so.
	So I just wanted to remind you on the show that that has to be taken care of.
	In abeyance?
	Oh, okay.
	Officially in abeyance.
	That's very good.
	I have a couple of things.
	Ah, corroborating your Pelosi that she's ill.
	Now, you said Alzheimer's?
	Well, if you remember, we had reports that we relayed that indicated that there are Alzheimer's drugs being brought into the House of Representatives and maybe the Senate.
	For certain members who apparently have Alzheimer's, but it's not official.
	Remember that?
	Yes, yes, yes.
	And I've spoken to people, and you think she's very confused.
	I've spoken to people who have lived with or know parents and people who have gotten Alzheimer's.
	But she doesn't seem to really be showing Alzheimer's symptoms.
	I'm thinking, could it more be like dementia?
	Is it the same thing?
	I really don't know.
	Don't forget, if she's on some sort of medication, it might be covering up a lot of it.
	You don't take that medication to, you know, make it worse.
	No.
	Well, she's done this now six times.
	This is covered up by the Republicans to protect President Trump in this investigation.
	She keeps calling Trump Bush.
	He keeps doing that.
	Yeah.
	That's troublesome.
	Yeah.
	Very troublesome.
	It is.
	Bush and Trump.
	President Bush.
	I couldn't help but notice that you're stepping on my turf.
	Uh-oh.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I have three fake alert Hawaii Emergency Management Agency clips, and you have a clip now, I see?
	Yeah.
	Yes, I have a clip.
	Do you want me to play it or do you want to hear what I have first?
	Yeah, play my clip.
	This is the guy who made the mistake and I think he's been wrong.
	Here, I'm going to tell you what I think in advance.
	This guy's been wrongfully terminated and all this bullcrap, unless you come up with something really good, is just a waste of everybody's time.
	Hawaii, the former state worker who triggered a false alarm warning that a ballistic missile was headed towards the islands is speaking out.
	The alert caused panic and chaos around the islands on the morning of January 13th.
	The former state worker says he sent the alert because he was positive the attack was real.
	I was supposed to be on speakerphone.
	Someone picked up the receiver and the first part of the message, exercise, exercise, exercise, was not heard.
	The message I heard was that this is not a drill and I did not hear exercise from the message.
	I was 100% sure that it was real.
	I did what I was trying to do.
	Hawaii's Emergency Management Agency fired him earlier this week, and although he says he feels terrible about what happened, the former state worker said he did what he was trained to do, as you just heard.
	Now this is very interesting.
	Where did you get this from?
	What network?
	NBC. Why did they have his voice all disguised, whereas the clip that I have, they didn't disguise his voice?
	I have no idea.
	On January 15th, I directed Brigadier General Oliveira.
	Oh, wait, that's...
	Sorry, that's the wrong one.
	Shoot, I don't have it.
	All right, doesn't matter.
	There's more things going on here.
	There's a couple of reports that it's not just that this guy got on fire, it's a guy and it wasn't a woman, as you thought.
	Actually, this guy is suing the state of Hawaii.
	He should be.
	Yes, he should be.
	Here we go.
	On January 15th, I directed Brigadier General Oliveira to conduct an investigation.
	Shit, I keep getting the wrong clip.
	Why is this happening?
	Here we go.
	This is the one I'm trying to play.
	The man who accidentally sent out Hawaii's false missile alert is now suing the state.
	The state has not identified that worker other than to say that he's been fired.
	He told reporters today that he's devastated about what happened, but he's not to blame.
	He is now suing Hawaii for defamation, may also sue for slander and libel.
	People want to kill him.
	Yeah.
	They identified it as a male, 10 years in the office.
	They show a back of a man sitting at a desk.
	It's not rocket science to figure out who it is.
	That attorney says his client has been made into a scapegoat and now fears for his life.
	The state of Hawaii says it cannot comment on pending litigation.
	Okay, now we have the story that speaks of not just him, but multiple people being fired.
	On January 15th, I directed Brigadier General Oliveira To conduct an investigation into the false ballistic missile alert on January 13th.
	Based on his findings, I have taken the following personnel actions.
	One employee has been terminated.
	One employee resigned before any disciplinary action was taken.
	We're in the process of suspending one employee without pay.
	And finally, after numerous discussions over the past two weeks with Major General Miyagi, a respected military leader and honorable man has taken full responsibility for the incident of January the 13th and the actions of all his employees.
	He submitted his letter of resignation to me this morning, and I have accepted that resignation effective today.
	Okay, so if this guy, if this just one guy who made the mistake, and he didn't hear the words exercise, exercise, exercise, which apparently, according to your clip, didn't come in through the speakerphone, but on the handset, why are two other people being disciplined?
	Well, somebody picked up the phone and maybe that guy's being disciplined.
	That guy screwed it up.
	Maybe.
	Let's listen to this third clip.
	All I know is this is wrongful termination.
	I agree.
	And I want to remind you that I said the language, this is not a drill, is not something that is supposed to be in a test message or a drill message.
	Listen to this report.
	This is not a drill.
	The alert that sent a wave of fear across Hawaii was sent by an employee who thought the threat was real.
	Warning of an incoming ballistic missile, the message triggered panic.
	A missile may impact on land or sea within minutes.
	The false alarm came from this civil defense bunker on January 13th, 8.05 a.m., a routine drill by the overnight shift.
	A phone recording starts, exercise, exercise, exercise, but includes, this is not a drill.
	8.07 a.m., a day shift worker, fearing a real missile attack, warns the public from a computer.
	Then a drop-down menu asks, are you sure you want to send this alert?
	He clicks yes.
	Tonight, that employee has been fired.
	He has performance issues, and throughout the 10 years, he has confused drills at at least two times.
	It takes 38 minutes to issue a new alert.
	No threat.
	This is the state warning point.
	Tonight, Vern Miyagi, the Emergency Management Agency Administrator, has resigned, taking full responsibility.
	The FCC saying the state didn't have reasonable safeguards in place and didn't have a plan for what to do if a false alert was transmitted.
	Okay, so what we learn here is that this is not a drill, is not something that was normally in a test message.
	And we also hear that he had messed up before.
	Why was this guy in charge of something like this?
	A couple of things I'd say, because we're dealing with a government bureaucracy.
	We don't know that he messed up before.
	Messed up before, maybe came in late for a shift.
	You don't know anything about that.
	This is just their rationale for firing the guy, the way I see it.
	There is one other option, and I'll stop from now on unless new information comes out.
	No!
	No, because the possibility does exist that there's something really screwy.
	How about this?
	And since you're so enamored with this story, I think you should keep following up on it.
	How about this?
	The Keck Observatory in Hawaii...
	They have a time-lapse video that just runs over and over again, and so now this is widely spread on the internet.
	At a little bit after 8 a.m.
	on the day of the fake alert, there is definitely something that shoots out of the water, just like one of those Iron Dome videos, and knocks something out of the sky.
	There is a distinct possibility that there was, I doubt North Korean, but there was some kind of missile that Whether intentional, whether false flaggy, whatever it is.
	It could have been a test of our systems.
	Yes.
	Something got blown out of the sky.
	And that's the thing that I'd like to know more about.
	It's very clear when you see it.
	It's exactly like an Iron Dome video.
	We do test our anti-ballistic missile systems online.
	Right.
	Not every day, but we test them.
	And it's possible this was some sort of a test.
	Could be.
	And the missile was, you know, headed for, who knows, in the middle of nowhere, probably.
	Or that one hand didn't know what the other was doing.
	Yeah, which is very common.
	We see that all the time with these intelligence agencies.
	But then why not just come clean and just say, yeah, okay, this is what happened.
	Why all this?
	Because what you're talking about was probably top secret.
	Ooh, okay.
	Well, they should turn off the cameras at the Keck Observatory next time they try that top secret test.
	Okay, I'll stay on it.
	Yeah, you should stay on it.
	Okay.
	Last clip I got.
	In for a dime, in for a dollar.
	Always.
	It's the no agenda way.
	This is a clip that we've talked about this in similar matters, although this is the first time that anyone has gotten in trouble for it, and of course not an elected representative, but still.
	We're learning more about that surprise resignation by the now former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
	Dr.
	Brenda Fitzgerald stepped down yesterday after Politico reported she'd invested in tobacco stocks and a health care company, though pretty clear potential conflicts of interest.
	Well, Fitzgerald says a financial advisor is the one who bought the tobacco shares without her knowing.
	As for that healthcare company, however, that investment, she admits, she knowingly made.
	I've been a doctor for 30 years, and I have been against tobacco use in any form that entire time and been vocal about it and am vocal now.
	As soon as we knew about it, we said sell it.
	A lot of local people invested in the company, but it's invested in the company.
	It's not stock, so we can't sell it.
	It's taking too long, and it's too much a distraction from the CDC work, and that's why I offered my resignation.
	There's very conflicting bits of information in this.
	At one point, yeah, I sold the stock, but then it was invested in the company.
	It wasn't stock.
	Maybe it wasn't publicly tradable stock.
	The thing that bugs me was a couple things.
	One, senators and congressmen and women, congresspeople, persons, they can trade all they want with insider knowledge, and it is completely okay.
	President Obama made sure that was cemented in law, that no, not a problem, you can do whatever you want.
	And they refused to put any of that information online, on purpose.
	You have to go into the Library of Congress, into the basement, where you may not photograph or photograph.
	I think it's in Congress itself.
	I think there's some room.
	What is the Library of Congress?
	I don't know where the date is.
	We did have one guy about three or four years ago that actually went and found some stuff.
	I remember that, yeah.
	So this is something that, I mean, that's what you really want to look at.
	That's where the real crooks are.
	Ben, what's irksome is not in a single story, and I looked quite extensively, could I find what stock she had invested in?
	Jesus, journos!
	You're keeping all that to yourself.
	I mean, that's what we want to know.
	I thought somebody did mention it, but I don't have it.
	No, I couldn't find it.
	I'd love to know what she invested in.
	Okay.
	All right.
	At least we got that out of the way.
	Well, yes.
	It's...
	We should probably catch up with the nukes thing.
	We're fixing our...
	All our weaponry, we're going to redo everything.
	Let's catch up with that.
	The Trump administration released its blueprint for the United States' nuclear arsenal today.
	It continues the Obama administration plans to rebuild all of America's nuclear-armed submarines, aircraft and missiles.
	But it also calls for deploying new nuclear capabilities on submarines and ships.
	As Nick Schifrin reports, Pentagon officials say this is a response to what Russia and China are doing.
	Critics say the plan will spark a new arms race.
	For more than half a century, the US nuclear arsenal was designed to deter nuclear attack on America and its allies.
	Today, the Trump administration says the US's nuclear air, land and sea weapons aren't strong enough.
	We cannot afford to let it become obsolete.
	The US says it's trying to cope with adversaries increasingly threatening and complex.
	Russia is modernizing its nuclear arsenal and warns it's willing to launch relatively small nuclear weapons.
	China is expanding its conventional military and increasing its nuclear capacity.
	And North Korea is on the verge of creating a viable nuclear weapon that could hit the U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense Patrick Shannon released today's Nuclear Posture Review, or NPR.
	This NPR ensures we can deter any potential adversary because they are not all alike.
	The review calls for deploying new, relatively small, nuclear weapons carried on submarines and bringing back nuclear-tipped cruise missiles for ships.
	The review also says the U.S. would consider using nuclear weapons in response to non-nuclear attacks, such as strikes on critical infrastructure.
	John Rood is the Undersecretary of Defense for Policy.
	In the context of a non-nuclear attack on the United States or our allies that was strategic in nature, That imposed substantial impacts to our infrastructure, to our people, that we would consider that context in evaluating the appropriate response, perhaps to include nuclear weapons.
	Go nukes!
	Yeah, I don't think any of this is a good idea.
	No.
	But it does bring in another story, which no one's talking about.
	And I wonder what this is all about, if it's not about oil, which I believe it probably is.
	But this is the new disputed islands.
	Oh, more of this China stuff?
	No, this is Russia.
	Oh.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	You think it's about oil?
	Hmm.
	Oh, man.
	I think there's a couple of things I just wanted to catch up on.
	Not clips, but just a few interesting little things that caught my eye.
	Brussels, the EU, where the rulers of the EU sit, are really trying to move Britain to Berlin time.
	And they will be voting this week on whether to scrap British summertime.
	Which I think, I guess they can do that if they're still in the EU. Yeah, they want to do away with daylight saving time.
	Oh, well, that sounds okay, but scrap British summertime?
	Yeah.
	No summer for you!
	Just call it summertime.
	Well, I guess it's a very globalist thing to do.
	Oh, summertime, I guess.
	In France, we now have police being sent into Calais.
	Migrant gangs are fighting each other.
	That's just bound to happen.
	It is bound to happen.
	Bound to happen.
	Now, I think it depends on how you count it, but the headlines vary between a 5 and a 6, but I did like that the Dow dropped 666 points this past week.
	I thought that was a fun little message.
	That's almost as good as 33.
	Just sending you a little love message.
	It was a good one, yes.
	That was kind of nice.
	Hello.
	Got a note about loyalty from one of our millennial producers.
	Adam and John, the previous show, you were talking about millennial loyalty in the workplace being gone.
	I cannot agree with you more.
	Since I was young, I've always admired Apple as a company and their products, and I wish I could have worked for the company.
	I got a job at Apple at age 18 and have been working there since I'm almost 22.
	I find it sad how many millennials I work with simply do the job for a check and for some experience, with the full intention of leaving the second a company where the larger check comes along.
	I'm the complete opposite.
	I have a very strong loyalty to the company, and my dream would actually be to work at the same company until I retire.
	My grandfather worked at the Pacific Gas and Electric for 50 years, and I hope I can do the same.
	He did tell me something that might explain another side of company loyalty.
	He told me that throughout his career at the company, The company loyalty to employees has gone downhill as well.
	I don't think companies are as loyal and invested in their employees either these days.
	Also, P.S. I'm a knight!
	And come back to the MAC. We'll accept you with open arms.
	He is a millennial, for sure.
	I think there's something to that, that companies, you know, it goes back and forth.
	Yeah, I can't argue with that.
	Especially in Silicon Valley.
	Yeah.
	Where it's almost cutthroat, you know, their attitude toward employees going to a board meeting or in a board meeting.
	They don't care.
	We have to fire 10 guys.
	Who are we going to pick?
	Let's pick these guys.
	You're out.
	You're out!
	And have you noticed, just as a general talking point, a lot of M5M media online talking about how the advertising business is a problem.
	I mean, even The Guardian.
	The Guardian's pitch is saying that internet advertising is not working.
	Have you noticed this?
	No, I haven't noticed it many more so than it's always been kind of sketchy and seen as such.
	Internet advertising, that is.
	I haven't seen more, if that's what you're suggesting.
	It feels like there's more discussion of paywalls.
	It seems to me like they're just scrambling.
	You know, they're scrambling.
	They can't make any money with these models, especially the big newspapers.
	Yeah.
	Well, or, you know, what I always say, you can't monetize the network, which just turns out to be true.
	See, now I'm on a Guardian page.
	I want to show you, talk about what their pop-up is.
	But they get this long thing, like, chip in a dollar.
	They're asking for a whole dollar.
	Chip in a dollar to help, you know, keep our reporting going because internet advertising isn't working for us.
	Yeah, but this...
	Wow.
	I mean, that's the Guardian saying that.
	Yeah.
	And I'd love to give them some money, but, you know, they're spooks.
	They meddled in our election.
	That's the way I see it.
	Yeah, we can't have them doing that.
	But also, you know...
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I was going to go to my last clip.
	Oh, I was just going to say that the only one who's saying something different is Wired Magazine.
	Oh, them and their internet advertising works like a champ?
	Yeah, no.
	I have the headline here.
	Podcast listeners really are the holy grail advertisers hope they'd be.
	Yeah.
	Uh-huh.
	Of course, I commented on Twitter that this is coming from an operation that has about three podcasts that they're hoping to monetize.
	Yes, because they're probably not making...
	Well, they're going with a paywall themselves on Wired.
	Yeah.
	I don't know how many people listen to their podcast, but I tried listening to one of them.
	It wasn't interesting.
	So you think that they're shifting course and they're trying to put all their advertising, their focus on selling ads to the podcast part?
	I think they're trying to sell some ads.
	Right.
	I mean, like Leo over there at Twit is complaining about this incessantly, that he has no ads.
	Well, he's got plenty of ads.
	Oh, well, I guess they're not paying.
	He's got more inventory than ads, I guess.
	Maybe that's what he's complaining about.
	Well, he's complaining a lot in between shows again.
	Well, anyway, that's why I love our value for value model.
	We're not going to get rich, but we're still here, baby.
	1005 episodes later.
	I'm coming on on 1006 10-6.
	That's right.
	What is 10-6 on the 10 codes?
	I will look at the 10-6 codes.
	You got one more clip for us to make us happy as we get into the Super Bowl fever?
	Yeah, it kind of makes us happy because this is a clip.
	That I don't know why it hasn't gotten any legs.
	It wasn't part of somebody's planned rollout, anti-gun.
	We don't want to do anti-gun.
	No anti-gun right now.
	No anti-gun.
	We've got to do anti-Trump.
	We've got to do this memo.
	Don't bring any gun stuff into the play because this is a beautiful story for the anti-gun people to promote and make a big deal about.
	In news around the state, a 12-year-old girl was charged with two felonies today after two students were shot at at a Los Angeles middle school.
	Police say a gun in her backpack went off accidentally Thursday, injuring five.
	A single bullet struck a 15-year-old girl in the wrist and then hit another classmate in the head.
	Both are expected to make full recoveries.
	She's charged with being a minor in possession of a firearm and having a weapon on school grounds.
	The semi-automatic handgun in her backpack wasn't registered, and detectives still don't know where she got it from.
	You know, you're right.
	That's a horrible story.
	That deserves attention.
	Now, the thing about this story that, to me, when I hear a story like this, it says, to me, it says we need...
	Gun safety training in schools.
	Yes.
	Like we used to have.
	Because obviously she had this gun.
	Somebody cocked it and left it cocked or somebody shot it.
	And since it's a semi-automatic or an automatic handgun, it re-cocked itself.
	So she's carrying around unknowingly a cocked weapon.
	Yeah.
	With the safety off.
	John, you're right.
	Absolutely.
	We used to have that until it went out of vogue.
	Yeah.
	And then people die.
	Yeah.
	So after years of listening to my daughter, she sits at the table and goes, can you get anyone to show me how to use a gun?
	Really?
	I was working in San Francisco.
	I was getting this point.
	I said, yeah, we'll get some gun training for you.
	What you want is gun safety training.
	That's what you want.
	Everybody should have this.
	And I said it could come in handy, especially if you're in some situation where people are shooting at each other and a gun comes flying your way.
	It comes sliding along.
	That's right.
	And it lands at your feet.
	You want to pick it up.
	You want to know how to cock it and shoot it.
	But she wants to carry?
	No.
	She just wants to know how to use a gun.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, you can do that.
	Didn't you say dad will take care of you?
	Dad will take care of you.
	Well, I would like to take her to a range with somebody who's got a lot of different guns so we can show her the ropes.
	Right, so depending on which one slides over, she'll know what to do with it?
	Yeah, because who knows what's going to slide over.
	It could be a revolver, it could be an automatic, it could be a max chance, useless.
	This is America.
	As a kid, you've got to learn how to drive a truck, drink a beer, shoot a gun, and know how to swim.
	That's pretty much it.
	Congratulations, you're American now.
	Well, good for her.
	Yeah, I thought it was a move up.
	Yes!
	There's hope!
	Yeah.
	10-6 is busy.
	Stand by.
	So I don't think it's useful for...
	Busy.
	Stand by.
	Stand by.
	10-5 was relay.
	We didn't use that one either.
	10-7 is something important, isn't it?
	10-7 is out of service.
	Ah, we're going to be 10-7 if we don't get some money for 10-6.
	There you go.
	Now you're talking.
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