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	and kids of course are going nuts for him adam curry john c devorac and sunday december 10th 2017 this is your award-winning gitmo nation media assassination episode niner eight niner this is no agenda bringing our way through the morass of media and broadcasting live from downtown austin tejas capital drone star state in the studio in the morning everybody i'm adam curry And from northern Silicon Valley, where we're asking the question, what's up with Al Franken?
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	I get you to read something.
	Before we start the show, so I know you're not going to, like, overmodulate.
	Yeah, so I immediately overmodulate.
	You went a little hard, yeah.
	You went in there a bit hard.
	It's okay.
	It's all right.
	Meh.
	Exactly.
	Sorry.
	No, it's okay.
	I can talk softer.
	Well, I got to admit something right off the bat here, John.
	Mm-hmm.
	You recall we got a note from one of our producers that he sent me this Lavender Blossoms...
	Care package of his lavender creams that contain CBD. Okay.
	Which is kind of cool, right?
	Yeah.
	Oh, I get it.
	You smoked it?
	No, I did not smoke it.
	No, it's CBD and it's all kinds of salves.
	Salves.
	Salves.
	This is stuff my wife needs.
	This has been shipped to her.
	Well, I can certainly ship her one, but here's the thing.
	So I'm reading this.
	I'm putting the salve on.
	I'm like, oh, I got a little pain in my lower back.
	You know, I'll put something there.
	And he wrote me a really nice note.
	He said, I have people who use it, and they say it really helps for Tourette's.
	So I'm smeared on my neck, you know, everywhere that I have some kind of tick.
	And then I read...
	On the bottle it says, effects may not be felt until 30 minutes, may last 6 hours.
	I'm like, what do you mean?
	And I see, ah, it's 250 milligrams of CBD and 200 milligrams of THC. Oh, so you got wasted.
	I did it this morning before the show.
	What did I know?
	Yeah, well, it's not going to have that much of an effect, that being ingested through the skin.
	Yeah, but I don't know.
	I do feel a little, you know...
	Woo!
	I feel a little groovy, for sure.
	You do?
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's all right.
	Well, it's okay.
	Are you hearing anything weird?
	Are you getting any oral effects?
	Stop it!
	Stop it!
	Don't do that!
	Don't do it!
	Hello, Adam!
	The third eye is calling me home!
	Anyway, show two of the transition.
	My transition.
	You're having a sex change?
	When did this happen?
	Are you still talking through that tube?
	Because you sound horrible.
	Oh, well, I'm not talking through the tube.
	Okay, I don't know what you did.
	So what transition are you going through?
	This is the Windows transition.
	Ah!
	Yes, transitioning to Windows.
	Yeah.
	And, well, I have an analogy...
	It's kind of like you put into a...
	because everything's different.
	You're a professional driver, you know how to drive the race car, the F1 car, and then you're put in a different car, only this one has no traction control.
	That's the difference between Mac and Windows.
	I don't know if that makes any sense.
	No, it makes no sense to me.
	What traction are you talking about?
	You know, there's nothing to kind of stop you from going off the rails.
	You can get stuck and get messed up all over the place in this thing.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	You know, just look for a control panel.
	It's like, it's not really intuitive.
	Well...
	For me, I'm just saying, coming from a different operating system.
	Yeah.
	But what I did find...
	Uh...
	is your review of my setup.
	I didn't know you did one.
	You did a review of my Windows setup.
	You don't remember that?
	No.
	Let me play the clip.
	I like the size of the thing.
	That's one thing for sure.
	And the engineering in size is unbelievable.
	It's just fantastic.
	But the performance of the machine, except for the hard disk, it has a special cache that allows it to run a lot faster, or effectively faster, even though it's a slow, hard disk.
	The performance of the machine is really a couple of years old.
	There's nothing particularly outstanding.
	In fact, the screen that we've got here is what shows a benchmark running.
	And it shows the machine running effectively at 9.8 megahertz.
	Obviously not using weight state.
	It's got one weight state memory, which is kind of old-fashioned.
	The screen is blurry.
	There's a lot of little idiosyncratic things.
	It's a closed architecture, even though the other guest says it's open.
	It's open in a certain way, but IBM threatens to sue anyone for patent violation if they use it.
	I'm, you know, a little disappointed, actually.
	That was a review of the early IBM... Was it the PS1? PS2. PS2, yeah.
	There is one addition to the setup I just wanted to mention real briefly.
	The main problem I had on the last show was getting certain clips and jingles, and that's because I moved away from this iPad jingle firing mechanism that then had to be connected to the same network as the computer to remote control fire off the jingles, if that makes any sense.
	Yeah.
	And so instead, I got just an 11.5-inch touchscreen display, which is only like $100, and you connect it right up to HDMI, and you connect it to a USB port, and then I can just hit the on-screen jingle cart machine.
	Do you have a touchscreen?
	Yeah.
	Or is it a little device on the side?
	No, it's a little touchscreen.
	Yeah, just use it as a second monitor, drag the cart thing over there, and then I can hit anything I want.
	Of course, I recoded everything, all different colors and positions, so I still don't know where anything is, but at least it works.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'll take a picture.
	People will enjoy it.
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay.
	I know they're fascinated by this.
	Some people are, yeah.
	Yeah, both of them.
	Yeah.
	All right, we're going to talk about Al Franken.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Well, let's listen to...
	Do you have his whole thing?
	Because I didn't get the whole thing, but I do have his snippets.
	Yeah, well, I don't have his whole thing.
	I have the main...
	Well, I got that.
	So let's go.
	Well, here it is.
	I'll play this.
	Nevertheless, today I am announcing that in the coming weeks, I will be resigning as a member of the United States Senate.
	The Minnesotans deserve a senator...
	Who can focus with all her energy on addressing the challenges they face every day.
	He's a woman?
	I didn't know he was a woman.
	He's a woman?
	I think Minnesota is a woman.
	I think that's the idea.
	Her challenges refers to Minnesota.
	I had to listen to it two times myself.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Just seems odd.
	No, I think it's...
	He's going out of his way to say something like that.
	Oh, no doubt about that.
	Minnesota's not a male.
	Minnesota's not a female.
	It's a state.
	Yeah, and our state's predominantly...
	It's like calling a rock, you know, a woman.
	My girlfriend here, there's quartz rock.
	Okay.
	No, I think they'd like that.
	Don't make it quartz, make it diamond.
	Quartz.
	Yeah.
	That was it?
	Yeah, well, what else did you want to hear?
	I don't want to hear anything.
	Let's start off by playing Franken on CBS. Minnesota Democrat Al Franken took to the Senate floor today, and Nancy Cordes tells us he made the announcement he could no longer avoid.
	I will be resigning as a member of the United States Senate.
	Senator Franken bowed to pressure today, but did not bow to his accusers.
	Some of the allegations against me are simply not true.
	Others I remember very differently.
	If anything, Franken suggested, he is the victim of a double standard.
	I am leaving while a man who has bragged on tape about his history of sexual assault sits in the Oval Office.
	Like President Trump, Franken is accused of groping multiple women before he came to Washington.
	I would have liked to see him take some responsibility, but the end result was the same.
	Senator Amy Klobuchar is Franken's Minnesota colleague.
	Did you think it was important for him to step down?
	I felt that given what was going on, that you had more and more allegations, that you had members that were calling for him to step down, that it was just going to become really difficult for him to do his job.
	The pair of Democratic resignations this week puts even more pressure on the GOP. And it's Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore.
	A man who has repeatedly preyed on young girls.
	Many Senate Republicans disavowed Moore again today.
	I wish he were not our nominee.
	I think if he wins, he's the gift that keeps on giving for Democrats.
	Then, late this afternoon, they learned that Arizona Republican Trent Franks intends to step down.
	The eight-term congressman would not tell reporters why.
	I'll let the statement speak for itself.
	What does the statement say?
	In that statement, Frank said he may have been insensitive when discussing the topic of gestational surrogacy with two of his female staffers.
	The House Ethics Committee announced that its members had voted to investigate whether Frank's engaged in sexual harassment.
	Jeff?
	Now we know a little bit more about what he actually discussed, those uncomfortable conversations that he had with the women in his office.
	Yeah, actually, it's on the next clip.
	Oh, okay.
	Good, good, good, good.
	Because I thought that was...
	I called it immediately.
	I'm like, yeah, he wanted them to be surrogates by sitting on his penis, I think, was the idea.
	Yeah, well, maybe.
	But he offered one five million bucks, it seems to me, that if that was all he wanted, they were going to get a lot for their money.
	This is kind of an interesting contrast to what you just heard.
	This is the ABC report on the resignations, and on the screen they got John Conyers, the black Democrat.
	They have Al Franken.
	The white Democrat.
	And then they have this other character.
	And now I want you to listen to this.
	This is the ABC. Pretty much the same kind of report on pretty much the same day.
	Are you sure this is CBS or ABC? This is ABC on Resignations.
	I got you.
	You got three of them.
	Got it.
	And I want you to listen to this.
	Tell me if you notice any sort of a slant.
	Any sort of a slant to this report?
	Because I kind of noticed one.
	Okay.
	Next this evening, the growing crisis on Capitol Hill over claims of sexual misconduct.
	Three members of Congress now resigning in just three days.
	One of them, a Republican congressman who was accused of asking two staff members to carry his baby.
	ABC's Mary Bruce on the Hill.
	As bizarre allegations of misconduct emerge, tonight Congressman Trent Franks is abruptly resigning.
	The Arizona Republican is accused of asking two members of his staff to carry his child.
	One woman reportedly tells the Associated Press Franks offered her $5 million to act as a surrogate.
	The Congressman doesn't admit that directly, but says, I deeply regret that the topic of surrogacy was discussed in the office and that it caused distress.
	Franks, a staunch social conservative, It is a test of our basic humanity and who we are as a human family.
	Is now bowing to pressure from House Speaker Paul Ryan, who urged him to quit after learning of credible claims of misconduct.
	He is now the third member of Congress to resign just this week over allegations of sexual misconduct or harassment.
	This really is a watershed moment for our country.
	And Mary, tonight another Republican congressman now under scrutiny.
	David, the Ethics Committee is also looking at Texas Congressman Blake Farenthold over allegations he sexually harassed a former aide.
	He denies the allegations, but has also agreed to pay back taxpayers for the $84,000 settlement that staffer received.
	David?
	Barry Bruce.
	So where are the Democrats in this report?
	No, we can't be doing that.
	That would make no sense.
	I gotta tell you, man.
	That's ABC. ABC is the worst for this.
	I always used to blame CBS since it's the CIA broadcasting system.
	But ABC is far worse when it comes to being slanted.
	Now, there's also two switchbacks in here.
	Two of these, you know, you just say something and then play a clip that's got nothing to do with it.
	You mean a whipsaw, not a switchback, a whipsaw.
	Whiplash, whipsaw.
	It's your word.
	I know I can never keep track.
	Ever since somebody mentioned that, it's actually a non sequitur.
	And so I'm always like, this is a non sequitur.
	I have them isolated so you can hear them.
	And see if you can, you know, as you listen to him, you'll notice it, I think, because it's been ISOed.
	But let's start with number one.
	Frank says, stop.
	Sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	This is my fault.
	And by the way, this puts Mary Bruce on the list of douchebag reporters who do this.
	Because so far, only Jeff Begay's I've never been able to catch doing this.
	Frank's a staunch social conservative.
	It is a test of our basic humanity and who we are as a human family.
	Is now bowing to pressure.
	He's a staunch conservative, and then they play some random clip.
	That was completely random.
	Let me just play that again.
	That was kind of cool.
	Frank's a staunch social conservative.
	It is a test of our basic humanity and who we are as a human family.
	Is now bowing to pressure.
	What was he talking about in that non-sequitur clip?
	I have no idea.
	It's like she's piecing this thing together in the edit room and she just grabs anything.
	Like, this is a good clip.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So that was dumb.
	But the worst part is she does another one not quite as bad near the end of the show.
	She does two of these things in the same report.
	Over allegations of sexual misconduct or harassment.
	This really is a watershed moment for our country.
	It could have been from anything.
	Yeah.
	Oh, that's fantastic.
	So she stinks.
	We always forget to play the jingle.
	I think we need to do that.
	And now it's time for your sexual harassment update.
	I feel like we keep missing the ball on that.
	We?
	Yeah, me.
	Me.
	Me in particular.
	Me in particular.
	I got something here.
	The CBS morning show, Shame Themselves, due to Charlie Rose's sexuality and his DNA, had on, let's see, Republican Senator Thune to talk about, you know, what's going on.
	Thune.
	Thune, yes.
	Yeah.
	And so we've got Gail talking to him.
	And just listen.
	Now remember, this is about sexual harassment, inappropriate behavior, and just listen to the whole clip.
	We just turned to the resignation of Al Franken yesterday.
	He said it's not, the irony is not lost on him, that the man who was bragged on tape about his history of sexual assault now sits in the Oval Office.
	What do you say to that, now that it looks like Roy Moore might be coming to Senate?
	Well, I mean, I think there are men across all kinds of different industries that are learning that there are consequences to bad behavior, and I think that's a good thing.
	You know, what happened yesterday is unfortunate in the Senate, but I think on Capitol Hill, the discussion that we're having right now is long overdue.
	Yes.
	And I think what it points out is that action is needed.
	We can't continue to accept the status quo there or anywhere else for that matter.
	You had called for Roy Moore to step aside.
	That clearly is not the case.
	What will you all do if he's elected?
	Well, I think the one thing I've said all along is if he comes to Washington, he'll immediately be under an ethics cloud, probably an ethics investigation, the result of which could be recommending expulsion, could be recommending censure.
	There are different things the Ethics Committee can conclude.
	But it's a huge distraction.
	I mean, the simplest, wisest thing for him to do in the best interest of the country and our party is to step aside and allow another Republican to get into that race because I think we would win the seat.
	And yet the RNCs are supporting him.
	And that's unfortunate.
	I don't condone that.
	I think they made the right move in the first place.
	All right, Senator.
	Very good.
	Good to have you.
	Good to be with you all.
	Thank you.
	Merry Christmas.
	Very nice to see you in person.
	Look as good in person as you do on TV. Yeah.
	Really?
	What?
	So she goes, and she does it with the whole, you look as good in person as you do on TV. She sexually harasses him.
	That's disgusting.
	She's harassing him.
	Yes, she's sexually harassing the man.
	Listen to this.
	Can we play that again?
	Let me see.
	Here we go.
	We just turned to the resignation of Al Franken.
	Another Republican to get into that race, because I think we would win the seat.
	And yet the RNCs are supporting him.
	Yeah.
	Well, and that's unfortunate.
	I don't condone that.
	I think they made the right move in the first place.
	All right, Senator.
	Very good.
	Good to be with you all.
	Thank you.
	Merry Christmas.
	Very nice to see you in person.
	Look as good in person as you do on TV. Pretty bad, huh?
	That is really bad.
	Especially considering the topic.
	You get Clip of the Day for that.
	Thank you so much.
	Not unexpected.
	Clip of the Day I mean, you're going to talk about sexual harassment and then you do want to pull one of those stunts?
	Yeah.
	Oh, you look pretty good.
	You look pretty good.
	Yeah, yeah.
	What are you doing later?
	Yeah, hey.
	Like she's into men.
	Please, Gail.
	Don't insult me.
	We know.
	So here's the wrap on Roy Moore.
	Somebody sent me a nasty note saying, all you guys have been doing is calling Roy Moore a pervert on this show.
	Have we?
	No.
	I don't think we've been calling him a pervert.
	You're fixing your shows up.
	I don't think, well, okay.
	By the way, did you get the bonus clip?
	Yes, I did.
	Okay, good.
	Because we're going to go from this clip to that clip.
	This is Roy Moore rap on CBS. Alabama's special election that Errol mentioned is Tuesday.
	It's a heated battle for the Senate seat vacated by Attorney General Jeff Sessions.
	And it could change the balance of the U.S. Senate, where Republicans hold a slim majority.
	Manuel Borges is in Mobile.
	Are you familiar with the Senate race that's coming up on Tuesday?
	Yes, ma'am.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	So can we count on your support?
	Yes, ma'am.
	Barbara Brewster and her husband Henry spent part of their Saturday canvassing this Mobile, Alabama neighborhood for Doug Jones.
	Hey!
	They believe turnout, especially among African-American voters, could be the key to giving the Democrat a chance of winning Tuesday.
	I mean, unfortunately, we got the new Alabama versus the old Alabama going on here, and it's time for our kids to want to see the new Alabama.
	So you're reaching out to young voters?
	Young for sure.
	Jones supporters have seized upon allegations from several women that the Republican Roy Moore pursued them as teenagers, one when she was 14 while he was in his 30s.
	Moore has denied any wrongdoing.
	While endorsing him in Florida yesterday, President Trump sought to discredit one accuser, Beverly Nelson, who says Roy Moore signed her yearbook.
	I like the way he does that.
	President Trump stopped to discredit an accuser.
	On my way to the venue, I stopped to discredit somebody.
	In Florida yesterday, President Trump sought to discredit one accuser.
	It was like, uh, 1-13, we're stopping to discredit the accuser, then we're on to the venue, Prez.
	Okay.
	Beverly Nelson, who says Roy Moore signed her yearbook, but admitted yesterday she added notes to the message.
	You know the yearbook?
	Did you see that?
	There was a little mistake made.
	The president bucked the trend of prominent Republicans calling for Moore to step aside in light of the allegations, telling supporters the GOP can't afford to lose the Senate seat.
	But Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell repeated this week that he believes Moore will face an ethics investigation if he wins.
	Dean Young is with the Moore campaign.
	We're going to elect Judge Moore.
	And if Mitch McConnell wants to pretend like he's a dictator and overturn an election of the people of Alabama, he's making a huge mistake.
	A fight coming.
	A big fight coming.
	Big names are pouring into Alabama in the final days before the election.
	Former White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon for Roy Moore on Monday.
	Senator Cory Booker for Doug Jones today.
	Yes.
	So...
	They're panicked.
	Nobody knows what's going to happen here or what anyone's going to do about it.
	If Roy Moore gets in, somebody came up on one of the other analyses on one of the other shows and mentioned that the Ethics Committee has never done anything about anyone who did any sort of wrongdoing before they were elected.
	The only time they get busted is when they're in the Senate or the House, depending on which committee.
	If they're doing something while they're in office, yes, all kinds of things happen.
	But if it's something that happened 40 years ago, no, nothing's going to happen.
	It never has and never will.
	But nobody knows if this guy can win.
	He might be able to pull it off.
	I think Alabama's, at least the Republicans in Alabama, are irked about the whole thing, and they're going to vote for him.
	Before you go into your bonus, I have a quick little clip from Cokie Roberts.
	And she has a different take on things.
	One of the things to keep in mind is in the base, even women are suspicious about these sexual harassment claims.
	And part of the reason for that is that women who are not in fancy white collar jobs often have really awful things happen to them on the job.
	They are assaulted.
	They are raped.
	They have horrible things happen to them.
	And so when they hear women say, he talked dirty to me, or he came on to me, they think, big deal.
	That's not what happened to me.
	What happened to me is so much worse.
	And so there's not that same sense of affinity.
	It's teenagers.
	I get it.
	Trust me.
	I have 14-year-old grandchildren.
	So what goes through their heads in that?
	That doesn't seem to work as an analysis for this particular case.
	I think they decide that the kids are telling a lie.
	Is she a Republican?
	Cookie?
	Yeah?
	No.
	Huh.
	Could have fooled me.
	I don't know that she is.
	She's always been on the PBS. She's always been in that circle, and she's always been kind of a liberal.
	Right.
	Wow.
	She says, hey, poor women, they're used to this.
	Nothing new under the sun.
	I think she makes a good point.
	I know that they're used to it, and I think she may be exaggerating, but I think the point is well made because people are saying, oh, the guy comes up and he propositioned me.
	Right.
	Surprise.
	That is horrible.
	He did what?
	That's sexual harassment.
	Do you work for him?
	No, I don't work for him.
	He just propositioned me at the trade show or something.
	And it's like, I think you have to be an idiot.
	I mean, what are you supposed to do with the men and women?
	They're always propositioning each other, and women do it too.
	Every so often, they don't do it as much as we like.
	As they should.
	But they do it.
	Yeah, that's true.
	And it's not sexual harassment.
	It's propositioning.
	You know, if you go up to someone and say, would you like to have sex?
	It's called your lucky day.
	Well, I don't want to be that insensitive.
	But let's listen to the bonus clip.
	This is a clip that was produced for Vice magazine.
	Just came out.
	It's trying to, again, put the Alabamans in a bad light, I think.
	They did make a couple of mistakes, and I'll tell you what they are after we play this clip.
	Alabama, 40 years ago in Alabama, it was a different world.
	40 years ago in Alabama...
	People could get married at 13 and 14 years old.
	My grandmother at 13 was married at 15, had two children and a husband and a job.
	You know, if Roy Moore was guilty, if he was at the mall hitting on this 14-year-old, 40 years ago in Alabama, there's a lot of mommas and daddies that would be thrilled that their 14-year-old was getting hit on by a district attorney.
	I mean, that is true, though.
	Boom count two, I'd say.
	That was a good one.
	I'm going to give you a clip of the day for that.
	Clip of the day.
	That's right, because we always take it into context, but then it comes to this douche knuckle, and then, oh, we can't talk about what it was like back then.
	Well, a couple of things.
	Forty years ago, I don't think so.
	50 years ago, maybe.
	60 years ago, for sure.
	70 years ago, absolutely.
	I think he's pushed the timeline a little bit on this one.
	A little bit too much hard?
	Yeah.
	And the other thing Vice didn't do right, they didn't follow the rules of broadcasting, which is, instead of having this guy, who's pretty well-spoken, you want to got a guy who talks a little bit slower, and he talks like this, and he's got one tooth.
	And that's what you want.
	They didn't get that.
	They got an articulate guy.
	He's got a slight accent, but he's articulate.
	And he does make the point, even though I think it's exaggerated.
	But this is, again, I say that this is going to be interesting because if Roy Moore gets in, it's going to be It will give the Democrats what they hope that they can just ride this guy and ride the Republicans and keep an eye on Trump until 2018 and maybe get some people elected.
	But then, again, the other thing is, if they see this guy getting elected because Trump actually came out and supported him and the guy does get elected...
	They're going to be a little scared of what's going on, and they may have to rethink their strategy.
	I think their strategy stinks.
	Well, while you mention that...
	It's just anti-Trump, anti-Trump.
	There's no positive message here.
	Well, that kind of folds into my next clip, which is Monica Crowley.
	I think she was on the John Batchelor show.
	And, you know, something that you identified probably two months ago, because we're just much faster than the M5M, is exactly what she corroborates here.
	Why the left has been so willing, if not outright eager, to sacrifice so many big, big names...
	Politicians, fundraisers, Hollywood heavyweights, all of these people have been deeply aligned and deeply helpful to their cause over decades.
	Why are they so willing to throw them overboard?
	And people are now starting to put it together that essentially the left would like to rewrite the rules and that they're burning everything to the ground so that they can start fresh with a new set of faces and a new set of and a new set of rules.
	Now, we are just in the early stages of this, but when you sort of piece it all together, it sort of makes sense.
	And when you think about new faces and new individuals in a lot of these positions, the pressure is going to be brought to bear to have women replace these people.
	I mean, you think about Matt Lauer, the now former co-host of the Today Show, and the whole conversation has been, well, what woman is going to replace him?
	It's got to be a woman.
	You can't replace him with another white guy.
	But I think, look, I think the takedown of Harvey Weinstein was the first attempt to remove Hillary from the national conversation, and to some extent Bill too, because Bill was accused over many decades by multiple people of sexual assault, sexual misconduct, and in fact rape, in at least one case by Juanita Broderick.
	So he is extraordinarily compromised in this cultural moment, and Mrs.
	Clinton as well, because she enabled him.
	She enabled the accused rapist for all of these years.
	So they were going to be marginalized anyway.
	I think the takedown of Weinstein was the first attempt at doing that.
	And like Mrs.
	Clinton keeps coming back like Glenn Close's character in Fatal Attraction.
	You think she's dead in the tub and she comes back.
	So I think that this now new wave of removing...
	Progressives, leftists, like Al Franken, who we just discussed, I think that is the final stake being driven through the heart of both Clintons.
	Don't you dare try to get back up out of that bathtub, because we are not having it.
	Two things come to mind.
	First of all, Franken, it looks like he's going to be replaced by a woman.
	Yep.
	It was going to be assigned and Amy Klobuchar, who is his stablemate, you know, turns on him, which is why I think he should have not quit and become an independent.
	But he didn't have the guts to do anything like that.
	And the other thing is he was also being seen when he came out with his latest book, Lion of the Senate, which is kind of a kind of a put on.
	Excuse me.
	You know, this book, when it came out, he was being seen as a potential candidate for 2020.
	Right.
	Which is not, no, that's not going to happen.
	We already know who they want to run.
	If you start looking into it, you're going to see it's Kamala Harris.
	Yeah.
	The black woman.
	Is it Kamala or Kamala?
	Who cares?
	She was a district attorney in San Francisco.
	She's got a lot of She's not going to beat anybody because she's got a lot of skeletons in her closet for doing a poor job here in San Francisco.
	Then she snuck into the state office of, I don't know, she's an attorney general.
	Maybe something like that.
	She's an attorney general for California.
	Yeah, okay.
	Okay, then she goes into the Senate, and they're all looking at her as, well, she's a woman of color, and she's a woman.
	Yeah.
	Key, she's a woman.
	Yeah.
	We need a woman.
	We didn't get Hillary in.
	We got to get a woman in.
	We're going to get rid of all these old – these other guys screwed up.
	We're going to get a new woman in there, and let's make her black because we were very successful with a black candidate the last time.
	Perfect.
	That's the real thinking.
	Yeah, that's what they're thinking because they look at their track record and say, who's the best that we've done with recently?
	Oh, Obama.
	We need a black person.
	Well, we can't have another black guy.
	Let's bring in a black woman.
	And they got this.
	She's no good.
	And you see her at the Senate.
	She's not that bright.
	Really?
	Yes.
	But she's a good campaigner and people like her.
	But she's not going to beat...
	Anyone can beat her, I think.
	And I think Trump can easily beat her.
	She'll be flustered.
	She's just not that good.
	She's not...
	She's too soon, for one thing.
	But I think that the line in the Senate where they start saying, oh, Franken can be the candidate, that was that.
	That was the end of him right there.
	Because I think she's absolutely right, Monica.
	She's their cleaning house.
	It's like the end of the Godfather movie.
	Yes.
	She had the wrong analogy.
	She had the basic instinct.
	Yeah, no, it should have been Godfather.
	Just wipe everybody out.
	Yeah, better analogy.
	Meanwhile, the hashtag MeToo is really growing worldwide.
	What we call catcalling or wolf whistling in the United States of Gitmo Nation GMT could soon become a hate crime.
	And they did a pilot scheme, a trial.
	How's it hate, by the way?
	Well, let me read this to you.
	The trial, led by North Nottinghamshire Police, saw sexist incidents like street harassment, verbal abuse, and taking photos without consent recorded as hate crimes.
	How's taking a photo a hate crime now?
	Well, it's just however you want to define it.
	Police chiefs are now considering rolling out the idea elsewhere in the UK, suggesting a harsher stance on everyday sexism could stop it escalating into sexual harassment or assault.
	Police believe halting misogynistic remarks could go towards lowering serious sexual violent crimes overall.
	Hmm.
	Okay.
	Where's the hate, though?
	I don't get the...
	Where's the hate?
	The hate.
	Yeah, that's however you just want to define it, you know?
	I don't see it, but that's apparently now hate speech.
	So the Brits see it that way, or are they just knuckling under to any old thing that happens?
	Probably the latter.
	Probably.
	Alright, well.
	Anyway, let's see.
	We're going to finish this segment.
	Let's see if I have anything else.
	I do have one thing.
	I do have a very interesting Today Show report on the mechanism that Weinstein used to create his Network of Complicity.
	Also this morning, the New York Times has new details about the sexual harassment accusations facing Harvey Weinstein and how he may have kept them hidden for decades.
	Chanel Jones is here with more on all that.
	Good morning.
	All of this comes amid the Me Too movement.
	And as we just mentioned, Time recognizing the silence breakers as the person We're good to go.
	This morning, new details on how Harvey Weinstein apparently covered up years of reported sexual harassment.
	In a wide-ranging report, the New York Times describes a complicity machine inside and outside of his company and says he used his friendships with major power players from the world of politics, business, and the media to his advantage.
	The Times writing, according to nearly 200 interviews, some aided his actions without realizing what he was doing.
	Many knew something or detected hints, though few understood the scale of his sexual misconduct.
	Almost everyone had incentives to look the other way or reasons to stay silent.
	Weinstein faces more than 80 allegations of harassment, some criminal in nature, which he has denied.
	Those mentioned in the article include Hillary Clinton.
	The Times reporting Weinstein had long-raised campaign cash for her, and her feminist credentials helped burnish his image.
	And Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, who the Times says sought Weinstein's advice on how to combat bad press.
	Weinstein reportedly recommending a lawyer who, quote, makes sure everyone sticks to the...
	Wait a minute, wait a minute.
	Bezos asked Weinstein for advice about bad press?
	Apparently.
	Yeah, that's the first guy I'd call.
	And Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, who the Times says sought Weinstein's advice on how to combat bad press.
	Weinstein reportedly recommending a lawyer who, quote, makes sure everyone sticks to the right narrative.
	As for how Weinstein dealt with his own bad press, it was with a mix of threats and enticements, drawing reporters close with the lure of access to stars, directors and celebrity packed parties.
	Adding he was so close to David J. Pecker, the chief executive of American Media Inc., which owns the Inquirer, that he was known in the tabloid industry as an untouchable F.O.P. or friend of Pecker.
	Within his company, the Times reports the Human Resource Department was seen by many as protecting Weinstein, saying when one female employee complained that she was frightened to travel with Weinstein, the response was basically, let us know if he hits you or crosses a line physically.
	The Times adding one of the former movie moguls' signature lines was, I'm Harvey Weinstein, you know what I can do.
	Weinstein denies all allegations of non-consensual sex.
	The Times also reporting that actress Lena Dunham warned Hillary Clinton's aides about Weinstein's behavior and his treatment of women.
	For her part, Clinton released a statement in October saying she was shocked and appalled by the revelations, adding Weinstein's behavior, alleged behavior, could not be tolerated.
	Friend of pecker.
	Gotta love it.
	Well, you know, there is your operation that could have blown the lid off this thing years ago.
	Easily.
	Easily, but failed to do so.
	So that's a flaw.
	Well, there was an article in the Columbia Journalism Review titled, What We Found When We Asked Newsrooms About Sexual Harassment.
	Uh-oh.
	It's bad.
	It's really bad.
	What's bad?
	The amount of sexual harassment in newsrooms.
	And there, too, the women have whisper networks, kind of like the spreadsheet that whenever surfaced.
	But I believe it.
	I believe it.
	Hey, that guy's a douchebag.
	You've got to stay away from him.
	Yeah, well, they have to do that.
	But in the newsrooms, John.
	Yeah, that makes it hard to cover the topic.
	It's like when the newsroom is all Democrats.
	And let's just face reality about that.
	And I have talked to newspaper organizations, speeches, and I've asked for a show of hands.
	How many people are Democrats?
	Yeah.
	And they don't mind lifting their hand up.
	No.
	And then you say, how many people are Republicans?
	And maybe two guys will lift their hands up out of 100.
	Yeah, you never see them at the next meeting.
	No, well, those are the guys that get in good positions, because other guys will come up to me and say, I would have lifted my hand up, but you can tell why I didn't.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So there's a lot of that.
	Most people just don't lift their hands.
	Poor saps.
	But it's extremely dominated, and many of the newspapers are unionized, so they're a member of a guild.
	And so that also puts them in a certain frame of mind.
	And so they're biased.
	They're incredibly biased.
	And the fact that they have sexual harassment going on, too, is just like makes the whole thing just an eye roller.
	Yeah.
	It's like, you know, it's pretty useless.
	I'm still waiting for some more signals from academia, although I did catch from CBC, there's a professor, a Scandinavian professor, put out a call for stories of harassment on campus and received hundreds of responses.
	No, I don't know.
	It's going to be...
	This thing is going to pop so hard.
	It's going to be targeted.
	It's going to be targeted.
	If the guy's a Republican or a conservative professor, and there's a few, not a lot, but there's a few, they'll be targeted.
	This all looks like it's all been targeted, especially at this point now.
	It's getting very targeted.
	And to find somebody like Franken, who...
	For all practical purposes, there's an innocent bystander that's been targeted and falls for it instead of being his own man, which means he shouldn't be re-elected because he obviously can't think for himself, because if he did, he would have done what I said, which is to quit the Democrat Party.
	And run as an independent.
	Run as an independent and say, I'm not quitting the Senate.
	I wasn't hired by the Senate to take this job.
	I was hired by the voters of Minnesota.
	If they don't want me, they'll vote me out.
	Right.
	But no, he didn't do that.
	He knuckled under to Amy Klobuchar, who was a jerk.
	And Schumer, he went up to Schumer and he says, you gotta go.
	And, you know, he wasn't thinking for himself.
	It's the Lion of the Senate.
	There you go.
	That's going to be the great...
	Get that autograph.
	Get an autograph.
	But you know what?
	He ain't gone yet.
	We'll see.
	Well, he could still back off, but then he looked like a complete wishy-washy jerk.
	So, I don't know.
	Nothing surprises me anymore.
	Alright, I think we can close that segment.
	That concludes our latest sexual harassment update.
	As a reminder, flirting of any kind is no longer tolerated.
	Good luck with that.
	We now have two women creating little bits and bobs for us, little jingles.
	Love that.
	Finally.
	I was just going to say as a final thought, And I'm going to continue to promote this.
	I think that in an office environment, all makeup on women and men...
	Should be forbidden.
	Should be forbidden.
	Yeah.
	No makeup.
	You're not going to get an edge, you know, and then accuse people of one thing or another.
	There should be no makeup, and the dress code should be a little more firm about what you can and cannot wear, and I would...
	Push trousers on women more than anything.
	I'm so happy we're podcasters.
	It's so much easier.
	I mean, I'm standing here in my wife beater.
	I don't know about you, but I'm glad we don't have to deal with any of that.
	Well, I think because in two hours after today's show ends, or maybe a little bit less because we got a late start with some technical stuff, For the first time, Bitcoin will start trading on the Chicago Board of Exchange.
	I didn't know they trade options on Sundays.
	Not that I know of.
	Yeah, well, everyone's talking about it being today that it goes live.
	Maybe there's some kind of pre-market or something.
	I'm not familiar with it.
	Well, they have futures markets.
	Yeah, it could be just the futures.
	Even though it's futures markets for futures.
	Ha!
	Yes.
	So there's a lot going on.
	This past week was, once again, just crazy listening to the M5M talking about Bitcoin.
	I actually, I deposited, just to see what was going on, I deposited just a couple dollars into my Coinbase account, which is the one that everybody uses, and they say, oh, this is great, thank you, it'll take seven business days for that money to clear into your account.
	This is a big red flag as far as I'm considered.
	With the banking transfer system, and I have a connection to my bank, I mean, that's overnight.
	Now it still takes three days to clear, but not seven.
	So they're holding that money, and that's part of the scam.
	That's how it works.
	Your money is in limbo.
	It's just somewhere, somewhere, something's going on.
	But I think the, not really a great explanation, but certainly a prognostication of what could happen came from Kramer.
	He's, you know, the He's like a morning zoo financial guy on CNBC. And he's explaining what can happen when you get these futures and options and the ability to short this quote-unquote currency.
	And here we go.
	Look, I think that the futures are going to...
	I think my sources in the Bitcoin community, which is actually about 20 people in that community, I think that they will bid on, on very little volume.
	And I think that the short selling is going to just annihilate people when you can start trading.
	Annihiling.
	Because it's creation of supply.
	There's been no supply.
	But short term, what do you think happens to the price once futures go live?
	I think you get a little more liquid market, and more liquid markets can't have these kinds of, typically can't have these kinds of gyrations.
	And I think that if they walked it up, these guys can hit it back down.
	I mean, I think the propensity of people when futures start would not be to bid it up after this turmoil that we've had.
	And what is basically what's called, really, an island reverse.
	You know, it goes up intraday and then gets slammed.
	And I think that's the traders move it up.
	And then once this thing starts trading the futures, they are just going to kibosh it.
	Kibosh it.
	Got it.
	Thank you.
	K-A-I-B-O-S-H. How do you go with kibosh?
	I don't know.
	Google it.
	Okay.
	It wouldn't surprise you to see it cut in half?
	Go back to where it was.
	I mean, 5,000 was a few weeks ago.
	Well, look, I think you get sellers who can come.
	There's no way you can borrow the stuff.
	But you get sellers to come in, and suddenly they create Bitcoin, so to speak.
	I also think that once the futures get in, you're going to see a lot of shenanigans.
	I think there'll be more shenanigans in futures than kibosh and shenanigans.
	Watch out.
	There you go.
	Kibosh and shenanigans are expected.
	Yes, none of it is good.
	No.
	Here is the very first Bitcoin, this self-proclaimed very first Bitcoin investor, Robert Verr.
	Do you know him?
	Robert Verr?
	Do we know this guy?
	Why would I know him?
	I don't know.
	Maybe he's like some Silicon Valley guy.
	I don't know.
	I never heard of him.
	All right, here we go.
	I stayed home and read about Bitcoin all day.
	I stayed up all night the next day until around 4 p.m.
	the next day.
	And I got too tired and I fell asleep for only about an hour and then woke up again and read all about Bitcoin.
	And I went on sleeping maybe an hour and a half per night for about a whole week until I got so sick from lack of sleep.
	I had to call my friend and say, help me, I'm so sick.
	He came and picked me up and drove me to the hospital and they gave me some sort of a sedative or something and I passed out of sleep for maybe 12 or 16 hours but then woke up again and it was all Bitcoin and here we are about 7 years later and it's been all Bitcoin all day every day for 7 years now because this is literally one of the most important inventions in the entire history of humankind right up there on par with the importance of the invention of the wheel or the electricity or the transistor that's how big of a deal the invention of Bitcoin is.
	There you go.
	The invention of electricity itself, I tell you.
	Unbelievable.
	Which is the problem.
	This is what's so interesting.
	We have a number of, I would say, listeners and probably some producers who are in this camp.
	Oh, totally.
	I would say the majority of them.
	No, not the majority.
	Yes, the majority.
	The majority are hypnotized by the Bitcoins.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	Absolutely.
	And here's the interesting thing.
	You know, the concept of mining your Bitcoin, which requires a lot of processing power, which translates directly to energy consumption, which is why it's very hard to make a living mining Bitcoin.
	And with each Bitcoin that's created, you know, it gets a little harder, costs a little more energy.
	Which I think is why we see a lot of Chinese miners being very successful.
	They're sitting there off one of those hydroelectric dams.
	They're tapping right into it, so it's kind of free energy.
	But the projection is, and this is just math, if the ramp were to continue like it does now, which I don't expect, but the ramp of the creation of bitcoins does, that looks pretty on par.
	By, I believe, 2045, the Bitcoin network will, per day, use as much energy as the entire world uses today.
	And that would be just the Bitcoin mining network and transaction network.
	So something's destined to fail.
	And it could be our grid.
	Oh, please.
	This whole thing is going to collapse out of the blue.
	Well, when the economy goes down, this thing's going to be the first to fail because if you can't get rid of your coin for seven days...
	No, no, no.
	That's just translating my dollars into coin.
	Well, what, do you think it's even longer to sell?
	Probably about the same.
	I haven't sold.
	You can only do one a day because they have limits?
	You have a limit on selling?
	Yeah, you do.
	I've heard people who have a $7,000 a day limit.
	You have to identify yourself.
	You have to give them your paperwork, some kind of documents, ID documents.
	And I've heard people can go up to $7,000 a day.
	But even then, you're not really liquid.
	That's not liquid at all.
	And if you do say the thing is selling for $14,000 a coin...
	And you can sell a half a coin a day, but if it's being sold at all, it's going to be dropping faster than you can sell it.
	And so it'd be back down to $400, and then you'll be selling it.
	And you lose out on the trade, exactly.
	And then it could be back down to $100, it could be back down to $50, it could drop back down to $0.25.
	You're right in line with Deutsche Bank, which is interesting.
	You'll hear what he has to say.
	Because Deutsche Bank is one of the leaders of this entire bullcrap futures market.
	Does Bitcoin have any systemic risk to anything other than Bitcoin?
	Well, we added that to the list because it's, of course, something that's being talked about more and more.
	And the worry, of course, that one can have is that it's catching on quite substantially.
	And, of course, with the speed with which prices are going up, then you do wonder where prices will be even by the end of 2017.
	But we do think that in 2018, this, of course, will continue to be a topic.
	And there's a number of questions that remain unanswered about regulation, about transparency, about do you have to reveal what you are holding?
	Can the regulators do something about it?
	It's mainly because it is something that I think financial markets so far has been discounting as a small issue.
	But to answer your question, Brian, we do worry a bit that it could become more systemic, in particular, if the current trends do continue going well into 2018.
	No.
	It could be bad.
	Well, every time there's a collapse, a market collapse, the triggering mechanism is always something different.
	Well, and on that, the Ethereum network...
	Which is also crypto coin, but with this Ethereum, you can put all kinds of things into the coin themselves, contracts and applications and all kinds of groovy stuff.
	That network is now jamming up because some yahoos decided to come up with something for kids.
	And this is right there with the Beanie Babies, which is the predictor of a bubble pop.
	Cryptokitties, K-I-T-T-I-E-S.
	Little toy virtual kittens that are part of their cryptokitties.
	Yeah, and kids, of course, are going nuts for them.
	Because it's their, you know, it's their entry into blockchain.
	It's their entry into the Bitcoin.
	It's beautiful.
	Because of all we know, all the kids need to know about blockchain.
	To wrap it up, this is CNBC with a flub, which really is, it tells it all.
	Meanwhile, Coinbase is now among the top iPhone apps in the U.S., which clearly means Bitcoin, to some degree, has gone mainstream.
	Bitcoin.
	Bitcoin.
	Makes nothing but sense.
	We shall see.
	I'm very excited to see what happens when the exchange opens.
	Yeah, actually, it'll be fun to watch.
	We'll follow it.
	We'll follow it for everybody.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C, or the C stands for Can't Get Liquid Dvorak.
	In the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning, all ships and sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	Yowsers.
	In the morning to the Troll Room, NoAgendaStream.com.
	Good to see everybody there.
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	And in the morning to...
	Let me see.
	What are you banging your drum, my man?
	I gotta get some bongos.
	Okay.
	In the morning to Stephen St.
	Clair, who brought us the artwork for Episode 9 or 8.
	The title of that was Don's Dentures.
	And this is London being overrun by giant rats.
	Which was pretty damn good.
	A good piece of artwork.
	Somebody sent us a note.
	You guys shouldn't be criticizing dentures.
	You're laughing and mocking them.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	We got a nasty note.
	We laugh and mock everybody.
	Well, apparently this person thought it was out of place.
	We were bad people.
	Well, I very much like the...
	I very much like the artwork and we appreciate the work that Steve and St.
	Clair did and all of the artists who upload to our No Agenda Art Generator, noagendaartgenerator.com.
	We choose from that for many different things and of course you can always find some of this artwork at noagendashop.com on mugs, t-shirts, tote bags and other great apparel and as an artist you can get paid for it.
	Yes, if they pick it.
	Yes.
	Low showing today, I think.
	Oh yeah, we had a terrible day.
	This is really pathetic.
	And people should think seriously about getting themselves into the Christmas spirit and contributing to the show here.
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	You slaves can get used to mac and cheese.
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	And you would like to hear the amygdala PSA? Oh, hold on a second.
	Amygdala?
	Amygdala PSA. I vaguely remember that one.
	Hmm.
	It's probably under amygdala.
	Yeah, no, it's not.
	Yeah, no.
	Oh, yes, I think it is.
	Okay, the amygdala PSA, yes.
	Putin, don't worry, be happy.
	Two to the head and some karma for a safe winter.
	Yes, I think we can take care of that.
	Let me see if this is the amygdala.
	You should check your privilege.
	Oh, yeah, you should check your amygdala.
	Something else.
	I don't know what this is.
	What?
	Enlarged amygdala.
	Something different.
	I start thinking about Noodle Boy.
	Check your amygdala.
	I don't think that's what he was looking for.
	She made a determination with her doctor.
	Ah, jeez.
	That's the wrong one, too.
	All right, well, you played it at the end of the show.
	No, I got it.
	I got it.
	Let's talk about the other one.
	Don't worry.
	Be happy.
	Don't worry.
	Be happy.
	You've got karma. .
	There we go.
	Richardson the Farrier, $225, parts unknown, from Richardson the Farrier.
	Read as much of this or as little as you wish.
	Boy, you've got nothing else to do, apparently.
	It's mainly for you guys, though, getting tired of having different names.
	Okay, here's the deal.
	I have several emails, and this one is just my PayPal email.
	Please just refer...
	To me as Richardson the farrier.
	Okay, we got that straightened out.
	I give you guys $225 every six weeks or so.
	I'm a farrier.
	Oh, farrier.
	I guess it's a guy who trims hooves and nails on.
	He's a guy who's a horseshoe guy.
	Yeah, I gotcha.
	$225 is what I charge for a full set of shoes.
	That's four.
	We reset shoes every six to eight weeks depending on how much the hooves grow.
	So 225 is what we call an all...
	I don't know what he says.
	They call it an all-around.
	Oh, it's called an all-around.
	Yes, it sounds dirty, and it is.
	But it's actual dirt.
	Bartender's choice on the jingles, please.
	Read a bit of nothing else...
	Anyway, he says, shout out to Chris Wilson and Felix.
	Hope his new shoes fit.
	Yeah, so I guess they got horses?
	I don't know.
	So I don't even realize that a horse's hoof is like a fingernail, I guess.
	It keeps changing, growing.
	Yes.
	Yeah, it totally grows.
	Because I used to do this.
	When you put the hot horseshoe on it, it smells like a burning nail.
	Yeah, it is his fingernails.
	All right, dealer's choice.
	All aboard!
	Trains good, planes bad.
	You've got karma.
	All right, well, I guess that's it.
	That's all we got.
	We got no more than that.
	We got the three, and that's all we got.
	Oh, that's disappointing.
	Very disappointing.
	I'm very disappointed in the audience.
	Hmm.
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	Try them on your LinkedIn.
	I hear you can get jobs with it.
	And while you are out today, propagate that formula.
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	Exactly.
	Now...
	I have kind of an offshoot clip that has kind of to do with the sexual harassment thing in a very odd way.
	Okay.
	But it's not quite.
	This is a local KTVU report on the scandal.
	It's a scandalous thing.
	And I have a commentary to make after this.
	Oh, I heard some of this.
	And with the issue of sexual misconduct dominating the news right now, a holiday party trend in Silicon Valley is getting some attention.
	Companies are hiring models to attend holiday parties to make small talk with guests.
	According to one report, it is happening in record numbers this year.
	KTVU's Ann Rubin is in our San Jose studio now with more on this.
	Ann?
	Yeah, the models are told it's their job to create a certain atmosphere, but without letting on that they're there for work and not for fun.
	That attractive person you're chatting up at your tech company's holiday party may be paid to be there.
	A recent Bloomberg article drew attention to the hiring of so-called ambiance models.
	These are good-looking men and women paid $150 an hour to mingle.
	Maybe sometimes they'll be given an employee's name to say they're friends with.
	Other times they'll have to sign NDAs or wear a certain outfit to fit a theme.
	Sarah Fryer of Bloomberg spoke to agencies sending models to half a dozen parties this weekend alone.
	In some cases, 30 of them per event.
	The tech companies, some big, some small, work in everything from gaming to virtual reality.
	So it's really an interesting phenomenon, especially in the middle of all of these harassment scandals and diversity issues that we have started to care so much about in the Valley.
	At Halverson Model Management, which focuses on Silicon Valley, they've received a few requests for this type of job.
	They've turned them all down.
	The fear that lines might get crossed if party guests don't realize the models are paid to be there.
	Are they getting hit on by people at the party?
	Is it there to solicit them or take them out on dates?
	We just don't know.
	And while models have long been hired for tech trade shows, the agencies say this is different since the job is to make small talk, not pitch products.
	And while the practice does not come as a shock to some in the industry, others say it may alienate women.
	I'm not personally surprised and they can choose to do that and I can choose to go somewhere else.
	That's how I feel about it.
	Agencies say they are seeing a significant spike in business this year and that the models are often hand-picked based on their photos than asked to sign those non-disclosure agreements before they show up.
	Julie?
	Just such an interesting phenomenon happened, given everything that's happening with this wave movement going across the country with the sexual misconduct allegations.
	It's a new thing.
	They're really saying that this is a trend they're seeing a lot more of.
	Yeah, and that doesn't mean that it hasn't gone on in years past, but the modeling agencies say they've seen a definite uptick in business this year.
	You know, no way of knowing what that means or why it's happening now.
	But yes, perhaps interesting timing given the current climate, Julie.
	Ann Rubin, thanks, Ann.
	So you say that's bogus?
	It's so bogus.
	This has been going on for at least 40 years that I can document.
	This is not even close to being new or a trend.
	Maybe there was an uptick this year because last year was a dog of a year, but that's beside the point.
	And the one agency they talk to is not an agency that specializes in this.
	There's numerous...
	Okay, at least 10 years ago, maybe longer, I ran into one of the men and women, they were partners, that ran a big agency out of Atlanta.
	And I discussed this whole process with them.
	And then I talked to some of the girls that took And then to take it one step further, I know of one company in Silicon Valley, that's a chip company, I think they've been since bought, I don't know if they're still independent, that used to literally bring hookers into their parties.
	Ah, the good old days.
	And everybody knew it.
	And so you wanted to get an invite to that party, because these weren't normal hookers, these were killer hookers.
	Oh, killer?
	Wait a minute.
	What constitutes a killer hooker?
	They're just an unbelievable, beautiful woman.
	But they're hookers, and they ran through this party.
	We prefer the term sex workers, John.
	In this case, they're hookers.
	The point is that this is not a new phenomenon.
	The Bloomberg people and all the rest of them are dumb millennials that haven't got a clue about what the hell's been going on for the last 30 or 40 years or longer.
	But this is not a new thing.
	The way it works with the women that this one agency brings to these parties is I think it is $150 an hour or a flat fee.
	And they make them do, there was one gimmick this one party would, or this one group would do.
	They'd have the girls wearing like 10 Hawaiian leis.
	Nice.
	They're out of plastic.
	Yeah.
	And it was required, and there was some, they played a game where the people had to talk the girls out of one of the leis and collect them, the men or the women.
	It didn't make any difference.
	How old are these people?
	Not the hookers, but the people in Silicon Valley?
	These are 40, 50-year-olds?
	30, 40.
	Okay, good.
	Just checking.
	And I'm sure there's 50s, too, but it's mostly 30s and 40s.
	And the idea is that the girls, if they couldn't get at least three or four guys to get delays off of them, they wouldn't get the bonus or some bonus involved.
	And the guy told me it's to get them so the girls, when they go into the thing, they actually have to mix.
	Now these aren't the hookers I'm talking about.
	These are the regular hostesses.
	And they have to mix to make it so the party livens up because these girls, they gotta get guys to take these lays off of them.
	And so they have to go around and make sure that this happens so they can get their bonus at the end.
	Now the way I was told by one of the girls is that The rules were that you had to be there for the three hours and you get $450 plus the bonus.
	You could stay longer if you wanted to, and now you're on your own time, and so now you can pick guys up.
	And that's for the big bonus.
	Well, that could be.
	Not all the girls were into that, but I was told that a lot of them were.
	And so they were kind of borderline hookers.
	And the point is that this is not a new thing by any means.
	And Julie's going, oh my God!
	Oh my God!
	Well, I think you're right.
	I think she's feigning surprise.
	But this is what is going to be happening now.
	All of these things have been going on for years and everyone just seems as kind of accepted.
	It's going to come down.
	Then it's going to be bad for the hookers.
	Well, we'll see.
	I'm not convinced that this is nothing.
	All we're really seeing is just the targeting.
	I think your earlier analysis by Monica Crowley and my thinking that this is going to blow over once Judge Moore gets in or out.
	Right, but there is an inherent benefit to the news media.
	The news media, not political operatives, but the news media to bring down as much of Silicon Valley as possible.
	So that's why I think...
	Well, I'd like to wish them all the luck in the world.
	Yeah.
	Their Gmail might start acting a little funky, but yeah, they're probably trying.
	They're probably trying.
	Now, it did not go unnoticed by most, certainly not in the No Agenda Facebag group, that our stick control is inadequate.
	I mean, we're shaking our sticks, but we don't really have any...
	They're omnidirectional, basically.
	I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that they were so freaked out.
	I don't think a lot of people were playing our show in L.A. Oh, that's possible.
	Because it really depends on where the show is being listened to.
	Because that's where the noise comes out.
	Yeah, good point.
	So, I said, you know, we're doing some heavy shaking here, and this is our rain sticks.
	Sherry Osborne has made those.
	She lives in Utah.
	And, you know, the next day, it snowed in Austin.
	I mean, it's crazy.
	Yeah, it's funny.
	We had snow on the ground.
	People had snow everywhere.
	And we're, of course, crediting the rain sticks for that.
	Well, I got a clip.
	So we can get, and then we'll talk about this.
	Let's play Storm Update, which has a little bit of stuff.
	In Atlanta, a man was electrocuted by a downed power line.
	Stop.
	Don't go near there.
	It's live wire down.
	And he didn't hear me.
	Across the south, power remains out for more than 380,000 customers.
	For some, it might not be back for days.
	Up to half a foot of snow is expected in New York City.
	Folks here in Central Park don't seem to mind.
	But, Rena, by the time this system crosses into Canada tomorrow, it will have dumped snow along a more than 2,000-mile stretch, starting all the way back down at the Texas-Mexico border.
	I missed the polar vortex meme.
	Where was that?
	Apparently there was no polar vortex involved.
	And by the way, it was snowing in Mexico.
	Isn't that great?
	Yeah, wow.
	Yeah, I love that.
	Well, just bringing up the topic of face bag.
	Well, let me do this for you.
	Oops.
	Oh, damn it.
	I was going to be very slick.
	I wasn't so slick.
	Here we go.
	Let's try this.
	Oh.
	Dispatches from Dimension B, courtesy of Adam's facebag feed.
	Bless their hearts.
	I have a facebag post from one of my friends.
	I consider him a friend.
	He's a big-time movie director, has done big-time movies.
	Yeah, like Adam Sandler, big-time movies.
	People who've listened to the show longer know who I'm talking about.
	And, yeah, I needed to read a little face bag post because he lives in Los Angeles.
	He's dealing with the fires.
	For sure, he does not listen to the show.
	So it was not helping him.
	Here we go.
	My house is this close to burning down and we pulled out of the Paris Climate Accord because the Prez doesn't believe in global warming.
	The RNC and Prez is backing an accused child molester to become a state senator.
	The biggest mass shooting happened a month ago and Congress just passed a law today to loosen up gun laws so you can carry a concealed weapon into a state regardless of that state's laws.
	Donald Trump is president under the guise he's making America great again.
	How the F did I wake up in this alternate reality?
	Please tell me it's just a very weird dream.
	Hashtag wake me up.
	Hashtag resist.
	So his house is in danger of burning, but this is all he can think of.
	Yeah.
	I find that to be out there.
	Yeah, yeah, that's pretty wild.
	I wouldn't be really concerned about Trump or anything else if my house is about to burn to the ground.
	No, no, but this is it.
	I'd be trying to find some way to get some of the stuff out of it.
	Yeah.
	I have another little thread with a couple of comments.
	This is David Ippolito.
	He's that guitar guy in Central Park.
	He's the guy who's out there in Central Park every weekend.
	And I like him a lot.
	He hates Trump.
	Hates Trump.
	And we played the bit of the president's dentures, Don's dentures.
	The United States of America.
	Exactly, that one.
	And he posted about that.
	Did you watch the Trump announcement?
	Legitimate question, because I truly don't know what kind of drug makes you sniff like that, slur speech like that, and dry your mouth like that.
	I'm really asking because whatever drug causes those side effects, Donald J. Trump is doing them.
	And some of the responses.
	He's a long-time lover of diet pills to keep the weight off, or he could cease and desist with those 2,600-cal dinners from Mickey D's.
	That's one.
	Just listen to the end of it.
	Right, WTF. Saw that too.
	I thought perhaps one of his dentures came loose.
	You could see him fiddling with it in his mouth when he sat down to sign.
	Maybe, LOL. Yes, that's what it sounded like.
	Dear God, please have DT's dentures fly out of his mouth during an unexpected sneeze during a press conference.
	Thank you, I promise to go back to church if that happens.
	There's a real problem in this country.
	And it's on FaceBag.
	Another angry rant, courtesy of Adam's FaceBag feed.
	Bless their hearts.
	Bless their hearts indeed.
	Well, since you mentioned the fire, let's play the fire update from CBS. Let me get a little feeling for it.
	At least six major fires continue to burn in Southern California.
	They've torched more than 175,000 acres and destroyed more than 1,000 structures.
	High above the fires, NASA is monitoring drift plumes of smoke.
	Gusts were calmer today, but the Santa Ana winds are still a threat.
	Carter Evans now on the devastation.
	The massive plumes of smoke lingering over Ventura County are an eerie reminder this fire is still growing.
	Nearly 4,000 firefighters have taken advantage of calmer winds to get ahead of the fire and snuff it out.
	Flames have already devoured an area the size of Chicago.
	More than 500 homes and buildings have been destroyed.
	Families who lived here for decades returned to rubble and ash.
	You can't imagine.
	You can't imagine.
	We lost not just a house, we lost a home.
	Today, Governor Jerry Brown toured the devastation.
	We're facing a new reality in the state where fires threaten people's lives, their property, their neighborhoods, and of course, billions and billions of dollars.
	Military helicopters are helping to douse flames in San Diego County where the Lilac Fire has leveled more than 100 structures.
	Robert Howell and his girlfriend Linda were escorted back home by police, only to find their entire block was wiped out.
	But there was only one thing they were looking for, the family safe.
	You seem elated.
	I am elated.
	That was my whole life in that box there.
	You got everything in there?
	Everything in there.
	Is that your retirement in there?
	That's my retirement.
	That's what I'll rebuild with.
	Donations are pouring in for hundreds of racehorses and their trainers injured on Thursday when flames ignited at a training facility.
	A GoFundMe page has already raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for the thoroughbreds.
	Thousands of people still don't even know if their homes survived the fire.
	Many of these areas are still under a mandatory evacuation order and will be, at least until the threat is gone.
	And, Rena, the high winds that are fueling these flames are forecast for tomorrow.
	God bless the United States.
	Now, I have a little tidbit for people out there who put all their stuff in a safe.
	Yeah.
	A friend of mine who's a writer and novelist, Michael Rogers, used to write for Newsweek, was up in the Oakland Hills where they had that firestorm years ago.
	And I was, by the way, the first one to report it, report on it on K&B. Were you on the scene?
	No, I was driving back from the studio, and I saw it burning, and I called it in, and I said, this doesn't look good.
	That was the beginning of your phoning it in career.
	Yes, and I've been phoning it in ever since.
	Now, he had a safe where he had just finished a novel.
	And he was in the house, and he went back to get the safe, and the novel had been burnt to a crisp inside this fireproof safe.
	Oh, no.
	And he mentioned that fireproof safes are one thing.
	Firestorm-proof safes are another thing, because the temperatures in a firestorm go up so much.
	They can melt steel?
	Well, you've seen the melted aluminum and all that.
	They can't melt steel, but they can do a lot of damage because the temperatures get so high.
	It could just heat this thing up and it cooks everything inside, so it's useless.
	And so you have to get a safe that is, if you want a fireproof safe, just to be on the safe side, on the safe side, you want to get a firestorm-proof safe, which goes up to a higher temperature.
	Just a little tip for you out there.
	Yes, another tip from the No Agenda show.
	We always provide a lot of valuable information.
	Very valuable tips, yes.
	He was devastated, by the way.
	Because his novel was toasted.
	And his house burnt to the flat.
	When you're in an area where this happens, I'm sure this will be in LA too, because all these houses that were burned just to the ground in these Oakland Hills, you would see, people had to live in their cars for a while, and you would see them around town, and they were just like shell-shocked.
	Yeah.
	It's not a pleasant situation.
	And nor is it right now.
	Very, very unpleasant situation.
	You know, I saw...
	I was watching Grand Tour last night.
	Yeah.
	That's the Amazon version of Top Gear.
	Right.
	And Richard Hammond...
	They were doing some race with supercars, and it was like the past, the present, and the future.
	And Richard Hammond was driving some...
	I think it was a Bulgarian electric supercar.
	Which, I mean, it out-dragged the Lamborghini and the Acura.
	I mean, it was unbelievable.
	Of course, only for one race, and then the battery was empty.
	But he crashed it.
	And he crashed it pretty good.
	And, you know, so the supercar has just tons of batteries, and I forgot what they called it.
	But so the car caught fire, and they got him out, and he was okay.
	But they went on to say that that thing actually burned for five extra days because the batteries would, you know, it's like 180 cells or something per battery, and it's all just AA rechargeables from Amazon Essentials.
	And so they would expand, explode, and then more heat was created, the next one would expand, explode like a domino effect.
	Then, you know, you get these fires out in California, I wonder.
	They're going to have to be putting out Teslas for days.
	Yeah, probably.
	That's interesting.
	Yeah, five days the thing was burning.
	Actually, I got a little bit of the open.
	Clarkson said something really odd, which I think was meant in a strange way at hating Trump.
	Still can't believe it.
	I still can't believe that Switzerland banned motor racing because of an accident in another country.
	Yeah, it's like Britain banning railways because a train crashed in India.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Or it's like America invading Iraq because some Saudi Arabians destroyed the World Trade Center.
	What?
	Did I say that out loud?
	That came out.
	Did I? That came out of sound.
	Well, never mind, we can edit it out.
	Look, we'll pick that film up later on, but in the...
	Wouldn't that be blasting Bush?
	Well, that would be blasting Bush, but it was kind of blasting America in general.
	And I thought, yeah, it was really out of place.
	What did he want to do with that?
	I wasn't quite sure.
	President Obama was very clear in blasting President Trump at some elite get-together in Chicago.
	Was this a financial meeting?
	Was this like a bunch of bankers or some kind of trade organization that he was at?
	I didn't follow it, so I don't know.
	Well, he's very irked that Trump is taking credit for the economy.
	I did hear this, but I don't know who it was talking to.
	Yeah, I should look up who he was talking to.
	As we took these actions, we saw the U.S. economy grow consistently.
	We saw the longest streak of job creation in American history by far.
	A streak that still continues, by the way.
	Thanks, Obama.
	You see, he didn't do it right.
	Thanks, Obama.
	That's the way you gotta do it.
	Yeah, he doesn't do it.
	He doesn't do that right.
	But then, he went back to the Trump rotation.
	This is a no-agenda patented system of evoking Hitler.
	But I wouldn't underestimate the very simple act of being engaged, paying attention, and speaking out.
	I mean, typically that's what it comes down to in a democracy.
	And I do think because we've been so wealthy and so successful that we get complacent and assume that things continue the way they have been.
	Just automatically.
	And they don't.
	You have to tend to this garden of democracy.
	Otherwise, things can fall apart fairly quickly.
	What's he talking about?
	He's talking about complacency and just saying, oh, things are the way they are and just let them go.
	He's winding up to Hitler.
	Things can fall apart fairly quickly.
	And we've seen societies where that happens.
	Now presumably there was a ballroom here in Vienna in the late 1920s or 30s that looked pretty sophisticated and seemed as if with the music and the art and the literature and the science that was emerging It would continue to perpetuate.
	And then, 60 million people got.
	And the entire world was plunged into chaos.
	So, you gotta pay attention.
	And vote!
	He's saying times were just like now with music and art and culture, which, by the way, would be the democratic sphere.
	Who's the music today?
	All the art.
	And then, boom, 60 million people dead.
	Yep.
	Yep, that's how it goes.
	Yeah, bingo.
	No, I'm sorry, it's not bingo.
	The word of the day is...
	Dingo.
	Okay, good one.
	Now, since you brought this up, it takes me right to two clips about the economy.
	And let's play the prelude clip.
	This is the economy prelude clip on ABC talking about the rise in the workforce.
	And the new headline about the American economy tonight, and certainly one the president will welcome.
	U.S. employers adding 228,000 jobs in November.
	That is more than expected.
	The unemployment rate holding now at 4.1%.
	That is a 17-year low.
	Yeah, sure.
	So they have this guy, I think it's Eric Morris is his name.
	He's on the Wall Street Journal staff.
	He's the economy reporter.
	And he's on C-SPAN. And he's taking questions about the economy and about the big, and he's also reiterating this 228,000 people got jobs, you know, even though what kind of jobs we don't know, they don't talk about Not one of our listeners who would have plugged the show, but somebody calls in with a question that I would have asked, and this is the WSJ Unemployment Eric Morris clip.
	Good morning.
	A couple different things.
	Number one, wondering what you're really gauging your jobless rates figures with.
	And the comment about if you want work, you can find it, I think, is rather optimistic.
	I think there are far more discouraged workers in this country.
	We're falling short measuring the people that...
	Are unable to find anything, even navigating an HR system, particularly when you look at the depressed, the alcoholics, and the opioid crisis.
	Those people aren't even falling into your figures when you're determining your numerators and your denominators.
	I think the numbers are far off.
	Just interested in hearing your comments.
	Are you sure that isn't Janet Yellen calling in secretly?
	Sounds a little bit like it.
	Sure, so we take our numbers from the Labor Department, called the Bureau of Labor Statistics produces that data, but how discouraged workers are measured, you're absolutely right, that's an economic challenge, a challenge for economists and statisticians to figure out If someone isn't responsive to their surveys, and that's becoming a larger and larger problem, people don't want to take a phone call or send a letter back to the government to respond to the survey, they're hard to measure.
	And if someone is unable to find work because they're dealing with alcoholism or drugs or depression...
	That's hard to define.
	If they had a job, they wouldn't have these problems, or if they wouldn't have these problems, they could find.
	It's a difficult problem, and you're right.
	We're talking about a little bit less than a third of Americans are outside the labor force, and some of them choose to be there because they're retired or they're staying home with children.
	Some of them, it's a little bit more of a gray area, and I think that's what the caller is speaking of.
	Yeah, somewhat of a gap there between 4.1% and 33%.
	Magic number, as usual.
	Yeah, and I'll tell you, from my own experience, here are the things that I see.
	I do see people benefiting from the so-called Trump trade.
	I mean, even Tina.
	She's like, holy shit, my 401k went up.
	So yeah, that is exactly how it works when Wall Street goes up.
	If you have a 401k, and some people do, then you benefit from that.
	Uh, but when I hear retail is coming back, uh, yeah, no.
	I mean, 2nd Street here in Austin is just, you know, there's shops going out of business left and right, but then it's, I really don't see retail doing too well, but what I see above all is, you know, I, because Austin is a test city and we have all, this is the new Silicon Valley, I'm not so sure I'm happy with that, but We have all these services here, including the most recent one, Yoshi, which they'll come by and they'll fill up your car with gas on a subscription basis so you don't have to go to the gas station.
	There's an app for that.
	They'll also do minor repairs and oil changes.
	Then we have Instacart, which goes shopping from Costco to HEB, whatever you want.
	Then we have favor to bring restaurant food to your place.
	So certainly Instacart, since I'm responsible for keeping the pantry stocked, I use that because, hey, why not?
	And I'm happy I do because the people who show up at my door are not what you'd expect in a college town.
	A bunch of college kids running favors and running groceries errands for some change.
	No.
	These are middle-aged Americans.
	These are 50-year-olds.
	They're my age.
	Some older.
	And they're the ones that are running these services as a full-time job.
	So I think we have a way to go.
	I think people are in very, very dire trouble.
	Now, you know, creating a buzz and everything's better can work and it's helpful.
	But I'm not seeing it.
	I'm not seeing any real results on the ground.
	I'm not either.
	I think it's bull.
	Especially, you know, it's great to sound.
	And around here, of course, you know, where there's an economic boom, which is maybe petering out.
	I mean, how much longer can this continue with the mania of the real estate going up like a rocket?
	Right.
	Well, that's happening here, too.
	Our real estate is out of control.
	And that will back off.
	For sure, when this thing turns around.
	Yeah, but it takes a lot for rent to go down.
	No, real estate is a little more secure.
	Even when they had the crash in 2007-2008, which was a real estate crash, the downside was like 20% or 30% on the real estate.
	Enough to put someone in the poorhouse, but not really a horrible devaluation of the property.
	And it recovered rather quickly.
	In fact, it's way up over that period now, at least in the Bay Area.
	But no, this is nonsense to say that we have 4.1% unemployment.
	That's crazy.
	But especially Trump, who was out there always saying these are bullcrap numbers, and now we're not disputing them.
	Disappointing.
	Yeah, disappointing.
	And he's really happy with the numbers because they're the same bullcrap numbers, but they're in his favor.
	But all you have to do, I think the real key, is the sizes and the continued growth.
	Whether it's a growth industry, it's the tent cities.
	Yes.
	We have them all.
	All over the Bay Area, and they're usually around freeway entrances for some reason.
	And there's a couple of them, when I took the Zephyr up to the meetup and back, in Sacramento, the Zephyr, the tracks go in areas where there's no road nearby.
	Hmm.
	And there's areas in California where there's huge tent cities.
	By huge, I mean, you know, encampments of maybe 15, 15 tents, which is, to me, huge.
	And away off the beaten tree, there's nowhere near a highway, there's no way a cop can drive into the thing.
	You have to actually go there on a rail car.
	Just to even find the place.
	But they're out there.
	They're isolated.
	And there's tent cities all over the place.
	In Berkeley, they're everywhere.
	We were in Uber the other night.
	It was raining.
	And we're talking to the guy.
	This guy's picked this up a couple times, Guillermo.
	And we're talking about downtown, where we live, and the homeless population is growing and growing.
	He says, no, haven't you noticed it?
	He says, actually, now that you mention it, I didn't see many yesterday.
	He says, oh yeah, they held a big raid, and they arrested like 80 homeless people who were all being employed by this drug ring, and they were dealing weed and coke on the street.
	Wow.
	Well, at least they were employed.
	Yeah.
	Austin, Texas, everybody.
	There you go.
	If you want your weed, you want your coke, go to Austin.
	Yeah.
	Just talk to the homeless guy in the corner.
	In my continued quest to understand more about the Scandinavian fruit machine, we got a great email.
	Before you go there, I do have one homeless clip I want to get out of the way.
	Oh, sure, sure, sure, sure.
	And it's the homeless increase CBS. And I want to mention something.
	CBS got their new guy galore and stuff.
	They are now, CBS is the first one to do this.
	They have a thing called the Evening News Break or something like that.
	It's very similar with short little stories.
	Very similar to the Index, which ABC uses.
	But CBS is adding a music bed.
	The number of homeless Americans has climbed to nearly 554,000.
	That is nearly 4,000 more than last year, and the first increase since 2010.
	The soaring cost of living is mostly to blame.
	The crisis is worst in the West.
	Nice.
	I think it's corny.
	A little bombastic.
	I mean, it could have done a little scarier, but it's not that bad.
	You're going to be hearing it a lot if I'm going to get CBS clips, I'll tell you right now.
	Because they start playing the music underneath the newsreads.
	And it's not as dramatic.
	I mean, all these newscasts, if you've ever noticed, the big networks do this.
	The only ones who don't do it is Democracy Now, which plays idiotic folk songs and some of these other...
	The music selection is all corny.
	But the big newscasts, they always have a symphony orchestra.
	It's like a...
	Dun, dun, dun, dun!
	It's like a big deal, the newscasts, and they started off with a real blast.
	Power sound, yeah.
	Power sound, and then they bring in these little beds that are like rinky-dink.
	I think they've got to change their style, and they've got to do something else.
	Yeah, it's not really modern.
	No, it's not modern at all.
	Anyway, you were saying...
	Yes, I was saying that the fruit machine, the e-meters and all of that, it's fascinating.
	Both of us would like to see if we could find this as a collectible, but it probably will be beyond our...
	Our pay scale as podcasters.
	Podcaster pay scale.
	But I did want to read this note that came in from one of our producers.
	Adam and John, I want to write and clarify something from the two recent shows about the fruit machine.
	I'm a Scientologist from Washington, D.C. Now, isn't that...
	Do they have a big church in D.C.? Not that I know of.
	The big churches are all down in Los Angeles and Clearwater.
	Yeah.
	Clearwater.
	They own Clearwater.
	I've been listening to the show for some time, donating when I can, and sent a song your way a while back.
	You played a few times on the show.
	I've hit some of my fellow Scientologists in the mouth at various points, and I find that some of the no-agenda thinking is very much along the lines of what we think in Scientology.
	That the M5M mostly wants to scare people, and that psychiatric drugs are bad for you, among others.
	Needless to say, I was surprised to see a Scientology e-meter on the album art of a recent episode.
	After I listened to episode 9 or 8, 7, Kebab Panic, I went and looked at the fruit machine.
	Turns out this is completely unrelated from Matheson and the Scientology e-meter.
	Oh.
	The first thing I saw was probably the same image you were talking about on the show, the one with all the knobs and dials that says Electro-Psychometer.
	That is, in fact, an early Scientology meter designed by Volney Matheson for Mr.
	Hubbard in England, I believe in the middle 50s.
	Electro-psychometer equals e-meter.
	And yes, it does look badass.
	What's odd, though, is when you look a little further, apparently a Canadian military museum put the Scientology meter on display with a caption that basically says, quote, the fruit machine has long since been destroyed, and while this is not the fruit machine, which was much more complicated, dot, dot, dot, so we've been hoodwinked.
	What?
	Several other sources online, including a major Canadian newspaper, use the same image of the meter and yet mention the same fact that this meter isn't the fruit machine.
	Can't they come up with an artist's rendering?
	Someone somewhere decided to conflate these two things.
	If you look at the Wikipedia entry for the fruit machine, and he has a link, some other sources online, it looks like the machine built in Canada was designed by a man named Frank Robert Wake.
	The Canadian fruit machine, quote, measured the diameter of the pupils of the eyes, that's a pulmonary response test, perspiration, and pulse for supposed erotic response.
	Well, this is a lie detector.
	Yes, the device employed a chair which resembled that used by dentists.
	It had a pulley with a camera going towards the pupils and a black box located in front of it that displays pictures.
	Definitely not anything related to Scientology or the e-meter.
	And feel free to ask any questions if you want.
	Which we will do.
	I'm sure we have plenty of Scientology questions we'll come up with.
	So this is interesting.
	We've been hoodwinked.
	Yeah.
	I want to see what the real one looks like now.
	They say they destroyed it.
	There must be a picture somewhere.
	This is bullcrap.
	I'm sure there was more than one.
	I'm sure they didn't destroy them all.
	I know people, they squirrel stuff away.
	Make sure to take that file and burn it.
	I'm not burning nothing.
	Yeah, I burned it.
	Here's some ashes.
	You can't be the only archivist out there.
	Not everybody.
	I mean, not everybody, but a lot of people would save these things and think a book is valuable.
	I just thought that was pretty interesting.
	Yeah, that was very valuable.
	Good.
	Thank you.
	So much for collecting one of these things.
	I wouldn't mind getting one of those old e-meters, though.
	I mean, one of those would just be beautiful to have regardless.
	Oh, a gorgeous machine.
	But the fruit machine.
	I mean, if you've seen the current e-machine, it's just...
	It's lame.
	They have a...
	Scientologists...
	One of their gambits is to find some very attractive woman to kind of semi-hypnotize you while you're on the E-meter.
	And they have these, they shop every so often on Market Street in San Francisco.
	And there's usually two or three tables and they got some very pleasant people that are asking you want to take that little test.
	And it's really promoting Dianetics.
	And you can sit down there with some, and if it's a gorgeous Female, you know, a lot of guys, yeah, sure, I'll get to stare at her and be asked questions.
	It's kind of erotic.
	But you have the e-meters and you can hang out there and look around.
	It's kind of lame looking nowadays.
	It doesn't have all the knobs and dowels.
	It's pretty straightforward.
	It's a galvanic skin thing.
	It really looks like one of those early breakout boxes, like a stomp box for a guitar that has some kind of reverb in it.
	You throw it on the ground, stomp on it, and the reverb kicks in.
	That's kind of what it looks like.
	It's not sexy.
	Not sexy at all.
	Well, the new one I saw was actually sexy.
	All right.
	Anyway, enough.
	So, in the Netherlands, reasonably big news whenever anything happens there.
	In Amsterdam, a guy with a baseball bat and a Palestinian flag was smashing the windows of a kosher restaurant.
	Saying that, you know, Jerusalem will never be the capital of the Jews.
	Very, very angry about this.
	And this is obviously a part of the four days of rage.
	I'm sorry, three days of rage, which was touted by the M5M everywhere.
	And that is why Palestinian factions are calling for three days of rage.
	Palestinians calling for three days of rage.
	And Palestinians have announced three days of rage.
	Three days of rage and a huge popular uprising.
	So, for sure, the president's unilateral action will get people killed.
	Instead, what the president is doing is essentially throwing a grenade into the middle of this process that's likely to blow it up.
	He's playing with fire, it's a dangerous and irresponsible game, and there will be consequences, very serious consequences.
	Warned Americans to expect violence.
	It seems to have no intended outcome, or no likely outcome, except that.
	Dangerous and destabilizing, and it would lead to people being killed.
	By the way, deaths are coming now because of this.
	You can just bet in the next few weeks we're going to have hell to pay for this totally erratic decision by this president.
	This looks like a declaration of war on 1.6 billion Muslims, basically.
	By the way, that was Chris Matthews in there saying it's an erratic decision.
	He was promising this since the beginning of his campaign, and he did it.
	How is this erratic?
	And since you brought it up, this is a video the president tweeted the other day with his proof that he's the only one that follows through on his campaign promises.
	Jerusalem is still the capital of Israel and must remain an undivided city accessible to all.
	As soon as I take office, I will begin the process of moving the United States ambassador to the city of Israel as chosen as its capital.
	I continue to say that Jerusalem will be the capital of Israel.
	And I have said that before and I will say it again.
	And Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided.
	We will move the American embassy to the eternal capital of the Jewish people, Jerusalem.
	Ah, there you go.
	Yeah, everyone talks a big game, and then Chris Matthews comes up with it's erratic.
	Erratic, yeah.
	So I guess the idea is just promise it and don't do it.
	We are a bunch of douchebags, man.
	I can't believe that we promised that for, what is that now, 16 years?
	20 years?
	Yeah, well, Clinton, that goes back to the 90s, yeah, 20 years.
	So let's play the CBS Jerusalem Update.
	Okay.
	You mean Jerusalem Update CBS? Arab foreign ministers met in Egypt today to discuss their response to President Trump's decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
	The proposed U.S. Embassy move, announced Wednesday, has set off a wave of anger in the Palestinian territories.
	Seth Doan is in Jerusalem.
	There's nothing diplomatic about these exchanges on the streets.
	It's rocks and firebombs versus tear gas and rubber bullets.
	Today, clashes continued following President Trump's announcement.
	Anger and grief were on display in a Gaza hospital and at three funerals there.
	One for a Hamas member killed in an Israeli airstrike.
	That strike was launched in retaliation for rockets fired by the Islamic group.
	On the West Bank, Bethlehem is usually known as the birthplace of Jesus.
	But this holiday season, it's a battleground.
	Mr.
	Trump today is putting gasoline on fire.
	Gasoline on fire.
	Yes, we got a very thoughtful update from the dude named Muhammad about this controversy, and I put that in the show notes at niner8niner.noagendanotes.com.
	Good read.
	Yeah, that's good.
	You did a good job.
	Explains what's going on.
	Yeah, he lives in Bahrain, I believe.
	Yeah.
	And he has got a good handle on what's going on over there.
	Yeah.
	And he doesn't have to worry about rocks and bottles.
	No.
	No, he does not.
	No, he just sits there in the computer.
	He's a computer guy.
	He's a dude named Mohammed.
	Yeah.
	What else we got here that's kind of interesting?
	There's a couple of things you don't get to hear about much.
	This is, again, you get on Democracy Now!
	You don't get it anyplace else.
	Like this India pollution story I haven't heard anywhere.
	You should grab a lozenge, John.
	The lozenge isn't going to clear up that frog in my throat.
	In India, toxic smog has once again enveloped New Delhi, triggering pollution alerts and threatening the lives of residents with breathing disorders.
	The U.S. Embassy in New Delhi measured fine-grained particulate levels at 448 on a 500-part scale, nine times the upper safe limit.
	Not good.
	Sucking in soot.
	Sucking in soot.
	Yes, sir.
	You could die.
	The military-industrial complex, for just a brief moment, just two stories that caught my eye.
	First of all, we have a new head of the Department of Homeland Security, Kirstjen Nielsen.
	Yeah, we've seen her before.
	We've talked about her already.
	Yeah, she looks badass.
	In the photos, maybe.
	Yeah.
	She was always what the...
	What's his name?
	The general that's...
	Kelly.
	Wasn't it Kelly?
	Kelly's assistant?
	Yeah, she was the deputy, I think.
	And this is straight from the horse's mouth from NPR.org.
	Starting in 2018, the Defense Department will have annual audits.
	Our audits will occur annually with reports issued November 15th.
	Bullcrap!
	Yeah.
	I'll believe it when I see it.
	They can't.
	They've already tried to audit the Defense Department.
	It can't be done.
	No.
	There's too many conflicting computer systems, although it doesn't really make any difference.
	It's not in anyone's interest to audit.
	Right.
	You can do it by department, by department, by department.
	You don't have to do it all at once in one computer system, so you don't need one computer system.
	But you nailed it.
	It's in nobody's interest.
	No.
	No one's interest.
	Nobody.
	It's not the economies either.
	It's nobody's interest that we know what's going on with our money.
	No.
	Uh-uh.
	So that's not going to happen, and it's never going to happen, at least in the short term.
	Well, they're saying it will.
	I have a laptop bomb update.
	Oh my goodness, I'll have to get the jingle.
	Thank you very much.
	As Americans finalize holiday travel plans, terrorists overseas are working to build sophisticated laptop bombs that can be smuggled onto planes.
	Deborah Pata traveled to Somalia, where the Al-Shabaab militant group nearly blew up a jet last year.
	In this CCTV footage, you can see two men walking through the airport.
	One is carrying a laptop.
	Watch in the bottom right as he slips the rigged computer to the bomber in the coffee shop.
	The man was the head of Mogadishu's airport security at the time.
	The laptop exploded shortly after takeoff and blew a hole in the side of the plane.
	Only the bomber was killed.
	But Islamic militants of al-Shabaab continue to try and perfect the laptop bomb.
	In fact, they tried to plant the bomb a day earlier, but the flight was cancelled.
	In the past 18 months, three other computer bombs were found after one partially exploded in a cargo hold.
	New multi-layered security checks, including dogs trained to sniff out explosives, are supposed to stop that.
	But al-Shabaab still has people on the inside.
	Syed Elia, deputy head of security.
	The biggest problem we have is no matter who it is, airport manager to the cleaner, everybody has to follow the security.
	The militants operate freely in this crumbling city of Mogadishu.
	We have repeatedly been told that Al-Shabaab has eyes and ears everywhere, that they blend easily into local communities.
	A quiet street like this may not look menacing, but it can turn nasty in an instant.
	Al-Shabaab.
	Yadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadad There you go, Al-Shabaab.
	So the guy that was partly responsible for this whole scheme was head of security at the airport.
	Yeah, makes nothing but sense.
	Yeah, well, we just shut down this airport.
	This airport's no good.
	So, I don't think any carriers, American carriers, would even go anywhere near that place.
	No.
	Well, I wonder if we're going to get that big laptop ban.
	They're certainly pushing for it.
	Well, you know, actually, no, I take that back.
	I know what's going to happen.
	You've got to think, put the no agenda hat back on.
	You know, there's going to be some very sophisticated machinery that's going to be able to detect if the laptop contains a bomb.
	And, I predict, a secondary conveyor belt for your laptop and other electronics.
	Well, that would be a nice use of the money.
	Yeah.
	It would definitely cost a lot, but the thing is that the current device, which is the x-ray machine, apparently this laptop bomb guy, his system needs a 9-volt battery, and that should be easy enough to spot.
	To spot, yeah.
	But that's beyond the point.
	I mean, you're trying to bring logic into it.
	When I should be thinking about the money.
	Yes, of course.
	The money.
	What am I doing?
	That's just like in the UK when that's where the whole shoes off thing started.
	They pretty quickly had these beautiful machines where you put your shoes on the machine.
	Yeah.
	Do they still have that?
	I don't know.
	I didn't notice it.
	Oh, well, this was back in the day.
	We went through Gatwick, and it was like...
	No, Gatwick had it, too.
	I remember this, but maybe...
	Well, you had to put your shoes in a bin.
	No, no.
	That's the new system, the bin that pops up and swirls around, and it's automated.
	Well...
	No?
	You didn't see that one, either?
	Yeah, there was some kind of a bin distribution thing.
	The bin would pop up.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But it was just like...
	It was lame.
	And they're yelling and screaming.
	It's unbelievable.
	Yeah, they're not very friendly.
	You know, where the TSA has been kind of, you know, we got our eye on them here.
	The security services there in the UK are mean.
	Yeah, yeah, they're a bunch of a-holes.
	There's no doubt about that.
	I have a couple clips that I want to play.
	One, let's do this one.
	This is another Democracy Now!
	clip that I think it's misleading.
	This is the German pilots and the Afghans clip.
	And a new report finds German airline pilots are increasingly grounding flights in solidarity with Afghan refugees whose applications for asylum have been refused.
	Germany's government said Monday pilots have refused to fly at least 222 flights carrying Afghans out of Germany, in some cases delaying their deportations long enough for them to successfully appeal their asylum claims.
	Lies!
	Is it lies?
	Well, here's what is misleading, because she says in solidarity.
	I can't find any evidence of that.
	The German pilots...
	For one thing, they refuse to take anybody out of the country who says no when they're asked a question before they get on the plane.
	Do you want to go back to Afghanistan?
	They say no, and they say, okay, we're not taking you then.
	They're not part of a ring that haul people illegally out of the country.
	But more importantly, they don't, like, find Afghanistan because they're getting shot at.
	Yeah.
	So it's a safety thing.
	It's a safety thing.
	It's got nothing to do with solidarity.
	Oh, yes, these Afghans should stay here.
	Well, did Democracy Now!
	source that information themselves, or did they just copy-paste?
	I think they just dropped the word in, solidarity.
	Let me hear it again.
	And a new report finds German airline pilots are increasingly grounding flights in solidarity with Afghan refugees.
	Interesting.
	Yeah, it's bullcrap.
	Hmm.
	I mean, you just go look at the articles yourself.
	They're very concerned about the safety.
	Some people, they're worried about putting somebody out who doesn't want to go and make a fuss on the plane and cause safety problems, and they don't want to fly into Afghanistan where they feel they're going to get shot at or they've been shot at.
	It's got nothing to do with solidarity with the Afghans.
	This is the kind of twisted news we get from some of these sources.
	On democracy now, no less, which, you know, should be...
	Yeah, darn, who would figure that would ever be like that?
	Other problems with migrants, although, I don't know about problems, but Germany has now put up 3,000 euro reward for any migrants who want to go back.
	Migrants who agree to go back even before their asylum request is rejected have already been offered 1,200 euros per adult, 600 euros per child.
	The Bild Amsantak reported that 8,639 migrants participated in the return program, return to sender.
	Turkey also has now entered into an agreement with Greece, and they will be accepting returns from Greece, and I think Greece is going to pay them.
	It's like Boxing Day.
	Hey, got this package for you.
	Look what's in it.
	And Karl Lagerfeld, man, he's lead-lashed out at Angela Merkel, that she's destroyed the country, and that's why he doesn't want to live there, although he retains his German citizenship.
	She's let all the enemy in, and he really went off.
	Yeah, I'm expecting him to get in some kind of trouble in the fashion industry.
	They're pretty liberal there.
	Yes, they are.
	So...
	And maybe that's a good tie-in here.
	The European Press Organization, let me bring this up, they published a style guideline for reporting on migration and minorities.
	And let's see.
	What can I open this in?
	Yes.
	Acrobat.
	That'll help.
	Here we go.
	Reporting on migration and minorities.
	I'll just read a little bit.
	Whose style guide is this?
	This is the...
	What's the name?
	Ethical Journalism Against Hate Speech.
	Oh.
	Nobody pays attention to anything unless it comes from the AP or one of these organizations.
	As I said, this is a press organization.
	It's a press organization.
	Everyone's a member of it.
	And this is called the Respect Words Project, and they have a hashtag.
	And this is quite a lengthy document, but here's what they're asking journalists to do.
	Under the theme, Ethical Journalism Against Hate Speech, the Respect Words Project focuses on the need to rethink the way in which media outlets and journalists cover issues related to migration and ethnic and religious minorities.
	Amid a troubling global context, the dehumanization of migration policy, a decline in sensitivity to human life and human rights, a rise in Islamophobic and xenophobic speech, the commercialization of journalism, more than 150 European radio outlets and nearly 1,300 journalists from the eight Respect Words partner countries, Austria, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Slovenia and Spain, Have joined together to help strengthen media coverage of migrants and minorities, an indispensable tool in the fight against hate speech.
	So now they are enlisting journalists to fight hate speech, which doesn't seem like their job.
	And they focus on three groups, Muslim communities, Roma communities, these are the gypsies, there's a lot of people who hate the Romas, and Jewish communities.
	I thought it was interesting that they're being put in here.
	Just some stuff that I highlighted.
	These guidelines aim to encourage news coverage that challenges stereotypes and that brings nuance and context to coverage of migrants and minorities, but they are not a call to hide from or even censor difficult debates.
	Oh, no.
	Migration and the situation of ethnic-religious minorities in Europe are complex issues of significant public interest that necessarily involve a variety of forms of news coverage from various angles.
	Protecting press freedom means defending journalists' right to cover stories that may be uncomfortable or controversial.
	It also means pushing back against the concept of hate speech to suppress criticism of ideas and institutions or speech that is merely offensive.
	You can feel where this is going.
	They're telling journalists what they should and should not write.
	The Respect Words project believes that although journalism cannot and should not solve the problem of hate speech on its own, meeting this challenge requires the involvement of many actors, in particular the European Union, which must reinforce existing mechanisms and support new tools designed to combat hate speech.
	It can play an active role in preventing its normalization.
	While we vigorously defend freedom of expression, we also support the view that professional journalism involves treating the subjects of reporting with the humanity and respect that they deserve.
	So would you like some recommendations?
	No.
	Oh, come on!
	I mean, you're asking me, and I'm saying I want to hear them.
	Oh, okay.
	But you're asking me if I'd like them.
	No, I don't like them.
	I'm sure.
	Okay.
	When it comes to producing quality, write this down, John.
	You should get your pencil.
	Again, again, I'm not going to do that, but go on.
	When it comes to producing quality professional coverage of migrants and members of minority ethnic and religious communities, notice they add that in now, We recommend journalists to keep in mind the following ten overarching best practices.
	Best practices.
	Best practices.
	Choose the language you use carefully.
	Consider the ideologies and connotations behind the words you use.
	Hashtag respect words.
	I don't even understand what that means.
	Challenge...
	It means do not write about where do they poop?
	Where are all these migrants pooping?
	Ah, okay, got it.
	Okay, that is the do not write about poop rule.
	Rule number two, challenge stereotypes and avoid sweeping generalizations.
	There's no one single migrant Muslim Jewish Roma community, but instead diverse communities of individuals who have more to offer than just their migrant ethnic or religious background.
	Yeah.
	Again, what does that mean?
	You're writing about the migrant crisis in an overall sense, and you're supposed to bring it down to the individual?
	That's not what the article is about that you're writing.
	And everyone talks about the LGBT community.
	How come they're one community and the migrant Muslim Jewish Romas are not?
	Acknowledge to yourself and to your audience that stories about migration and ethnic and religious minorities are complex.
	Don't try to fit your reporting into accepted master narratives.
	Jeez.
	Provide an appropriate range of points of view, including those of migrants and members of minority communities themselves, but do not include extremist perspectives just to, quote, show the other side and be alert to political and social actors who spread hate to promote their interests.
	That doesn't sound right.
	This is pretty common stuff.
	Go on.
	One more.
	Okay.
	Avoid directly reproducing hate speech.
	When it is newsworthy to do so, mediate it by contextualizing and challenging such speech and exposing any false premise it relies on.
	How come this same sort of reporting framework, how come this isn't used when they're discussing the situation in...
	And where was it?
	In South Carolina where the woman got run over?
	Charlottesville.
	Charlottesville.
	Oh, no, no.
	That's just Nazis.
	That's just the Nazi community.
	How come that same framework isn't used in domestic reporting, which is really kind of like hate Trump stuff or hate Judge Roy Moore, which should not even, his background shouldn't even be brought into the topic.
	What's he like on policy?
	Yeah.
	Anyway, one more.
	One more.
	Avoid oversimplification.
	Huh?
	Wait, now how about this?
	Don't fall into the trap of focusing solely on possible negative aspects of large-scale migration.
	It is also important to highlight positive contributions of migration and individual migrants.
	That's dumb.
	Yeah.
	It's filled with this.
	This is a 300-page document.
	Yeah, this is a pro-migrant document.
	Yes.
	Hey, reporters, you've got to be pro-migrant.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	The whole of Europe turns into a Muslim state from all the migration.
	That's fine.
	Yep.
	Who's bitching about this?
	You know, no, that's no good.
	I mean, it's as though you can't, you know, okay, well.
	And then...
	I have a clip from a Brexit voter who called into LBC, the big London broadcast Nigel Farage station.
	Are you quite done with the air?
	I'm kind of irked by this.
	Yeah, I can tell.
	It's not doing what you want it to do.
	It's not doing anything.
	Okay, go on.
	Just to give you an idea, the Brits are not racist.
	And this caller says, no, he's not a racist.
	I live in Harrow.
	When I go down to Harrow, and this is not being racist, James, because that term is so easily used and very loosely used.
	When I go down to Harrow, and I've lived here for 30 years, I walk into Harrow Shopper Centre.
	And I swear to God, I don't know where I am.
	I've got Polish, Romanians, Bulgarians sitting outside coffee houses doing sod all day.
	I've got every nationality under the sun.
	And it's lost its identity.
	When I go into Norfolk Park Hospital, and I went in there three Sundays ago because I had to go in an emergency, I walked into the accident and emergency As I said to your researcher, 120 people in there.
	I was lucky if I saw three or four white faces.
	Now that is racist.
	No, it isn't.
	No, that last bit is.
	It's realistic.
	No, no, it isn't, because you're forming an opinion of people or their value based on their colour.
	There are people who don't have white faces who are just as British as you and me, Steve.
	But I'm not racist, no, not at all.
	Well, he's right about the ethnic bias on the streets of London.
	There's no doubt about it.
	No kidding.
	You can really see it.
	But that was O'Brien, I think, that was the London's...
	Oh, it could be.
	Yeah, it could be.
	I don't know.
	And he is like an unbelievable...
	He's very sharp.
	I would never want to get into an argument with him because he'd just kick your ass.
	But he's a communist.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, that explains it.
	And as far as he's concerned, open borders are fine, and the Brexit is the worst thing that ever happened.
	He really hates the Brexit.
	And I've seen him kick Nigel Farage's ass.
	Well, he does it in a very coy way.
	He will start to grill you about stuff that you really don't know on the top of your head and then he'll start to condemn you because you should have known this if you're going to take this position.
	It's very chicken shit arguer.
	I've run into guys like this before and they're very hard to deal with.
	It's effective.
	It's very effective.
	He's really good.
	Meanwhile, if you're against Muslims in the United States of Gitmo Nation, do you recall that guy who vandalized the mosque and left bacon on the door handle?
	Yeah, vaguely.
	Well, he was sentenced.
	What do you think he got?
	A pound of pork?
	Now, remember, I'll say this is in context of your revelation on the previous episode, that in California now, you break into a car, you steal anything, up to $1,000 is just a misdemeanor.
	It's like, whatever, who cares?
	Well, they don't even book it.
	Yeah, just the cops don't want to deal with it.
	So this guy vandalized the mosque mainly by putting pork bacon on the doorknops.
	So seriously, what time?
	I mean, he got jail time, I'll tell you that.
	Jail time for that.
	How much do you think he got?
	A year?
	A man who vandalized a mosque in Central Florida by smashing windows, leaving raw bacon at the scene, pleaded guilty to criminal mischief.
	Police arrested Michael Wolfe in January 2016 after a surveillance video showed him smashing lights, cameras, and windows with a machete.
	He was sentenced to 15 years in prison, followed by 15 years of probation.
	Wow.
	Fifteen years.
	You had a hanging judge.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	In the morning.
	We have a few people to thank besides the panting dog.
	Down boy, down.
	Yeah.
	Benjamin Gardner, $100.
	Let me read a couple of these notes.
	The donation is towards Mike Harrington's knighthood.
	My brother and I think...
	And I took up his generous offer for no agenda producers to stay at his place in the Grand Canyon.
	All Mike asked for was a shout-out so other producers could take advantage of his location.
	See show 944 for his contact info.
	Okay.
	Okay, well, anyone wants to go to the Grand Canyon.
	There you go.
	Okay.
	Diane Kepler, 100, from Phoenix, Arizona.
	She sent a check-in.
	And so did Dame Susan Johnson in Newburgh, Oregon, 100 bucks.
	And she sent a card.
	Which I'll read.
	ITM just ordered something from Lavender Blossoms, which is one of our producers.
	Yes.
	Thanks for sharing the info.
	I like supporting other No Agenda producers.
	There you go.
	Keep up the great works, Dame Susan.
	And so far I can say it's an outstanding product.
	I haven't ticked all day.
	Well, that's...
	Yeah, and of course we're doing...
	We don't do a video show, so nobody cares.
	That's right.
	You could be ticking all the time.
	Michael Asfalk.
	What do you think?
	Asfalk?
	Asfalk, yeah.
	Asfalk from Deutschland.
	Deutschland, Asfalk, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	9890.
	Hello, Deutschland!
	Hello, Deutschland!
	Here's the Hoff!
	Tim Chapman in Spokane, Washington, 98.90.
	These are the guys who contributed 98.90 as dimes.
	Very nice, yes, for our palindrome.
	We got like five or six of them.
	Yeah.
	I wouldn't call it a successful promotion.
	No, no, certainly not.
	Zachary Gilbreck, 98.90.
	Anonymous, 98.90.
	And that's it.
	So we got one, two, three, four.
	That was a fantastic promotion, John.
	Good work.
	Well, you know, you did what we always do, and, you know.
	Yeah.
	You do what you can.
	Boobs.
	Boobs.
	Sir Tony, Jedi Knight of the Coders in Roselle, Illinois, 8008.
	This has been too long since his last donation.
	Yes, it has been.
	What do we have here?
	Alan...
	Cuiar?
	I think it's Queer.
	Queer.
	Queer.
	Yes.
	He needs a dedouching and a call out to my brother, Eric, as a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	Not donating.
	And here's your dedouching.
	You've been dedouched.
	There you go.
	Sir Eric Green of Ham, 7373, KC9YJM73. Sir Brian Green of Ham.
	What did I say?
	You said Sir Eric for some odd reason.
	Sir Brian, green of hams.
	Yes.
	73s.
	Sir Eric.
	Scott Wallace, $60.
	Sir Lucas of the Lost Bits in Tacoma, $54.31.
	Larry Hay.
	The rest of these are $50 donors.
	This is how quick this segment's going.
	Larry Pate.
	Larry Pate.
	Or Pete.
	No, what about Larry Hay?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	You're right.
	I was wrong.
	Now I misread it.
	Yeah, this is what's happening.
	You have an excuse.
	You have no excuse.
	Well, not that we know of.
	I've always suspected.
	Yeah, you can suspect all you want.
	David Peet in Aubrey, Texas.
	I never work.
	I only work sober, period.
	Yeah, me too.
	Drew Mochak in El Cerrito, California.
	Hey, Drew!
	Samuel Cutts, 50.
	And he says, please give this to Eric Brun's knighthood.
	Wish him a happy early 30th birthday.
	Yes, he's on the list.
	Make sure we do that.
	He turned me on to the show around episode 650, and I'm a better person because of it.
	Thank you.
	Always makes me feel good.
	That's what we try to do.
	Stuart Hilbert.
	Parts unknown.
	Robert...
	Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Stuart, this 50 pushes him over the edge.
	Night me, baby, he says, listening since show number three, having ruptured both of my Achilles, playing old dude soccer over the course of two years.
	I would like...
	Sorry?
	This is another song.
	Night me baby.
	This Christmas song.
	Oh!
	Right?
	Come on, people.
	Let's get to work.
	You know, I should say that I think I have a...
	Someone sent me a...
	Bing it?
	Yeah, we got a Bing it.
	Yeah, we got a Bing it.
	Let me see where the Bing it is.
	Yeah, we got a couple of them, actually.
	So now I have another one, which you just produced.
	Just Bing it.
	Just Bing it.
	Yeah, it couldn't be any worse than that.
	Hey, use your own voice.
	I can't sing.
	A longer version coming at the end of the show.
	Knight me, baby!
	So this is from Stuart Hilbert, listening to show number three.
	I've ruptured both my Achilles playing old dude soccer over the course of two years.
	I would like to be knighted as Sir Achilles.
	Keep up the great work.
	Yes, thank you.
	We shall, and thank you for your courage and your support.
	First injury you could possibly have if you like playing sports.
	Robert Duquesne in Fairfax, Virginia, 50.
	Jason Green in Atlanta, Georgia.
	Hold on.
	Jason Green says, Knighthood reached.
	I'm an Englishman living in Atlanta, USA. My grandfather was an officer of the Order of the British Empire, an OBE. Britain's knights are the most senior members of the Order.
	Imagine how proud he would have been if he knew this today.
	That I, too, will become a knight!
	Indeed.
	I think he's smiling down on you as we speak.
	I take this honor very seriously, and therefore I would like to be known simply as Sir Jason Green, Knight of the Order of No Agenda.
	If permitted, I would like to request fish pie and fellatio be served at the round table, and when I say fish pie, I actually do mean the traditional English dish.
	It's my favorite food.
	As for fellatio, I'll take it as it comes.
	Huzzah!
	Yes, classic No Agenda listener.
	I'm putting it on the list.
	Tony Colley in Staccato, Oregon, 50.
	And last but not least, Kyle Meyer in Atlanta, 50.
	And he sent in a check.
	And that's it.
	That's all we got.
	But it's, you know, hopefully people will...
	Come in with something more, you know, or more people will come in.
	It's really the number of people that's the problem.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's what's surprising.
	You have like 29 people total that came in over 50.
	Out of the, you know, 20,000, 30,000, 50,000, I don't know, lots of thousands.
	Well, Merry Christmas, everybody.
	That's a lump of coal.
	Yeah.
	Just before we go into the birthdays and the nightings, I just want to touch on the Patreon outrage that popped up all of a sudden, just because we have a value-for-value model, and we really appreciate everyone who came in today.
	This is the list of $50 and over up to our associate executive level, and of course, tons of people underneath that.
	Typically reasons of anonymity, but also subscriptions that you're on.
	Our layaway plans are $33 a month, etc.
	And it's highly, highly appreciated.
	And when Patreon came on the scene as a sort of value-for-value type idea, the idea of donating to creative projects, and it started with podcasts and expanded into blogs and knitting projects, they changed the way they do their billing, and everyone's up in arms about it. they changed the way they do their billing, and everyone's Yeah.
	Did you follow this?
	Have you seen exactly what...
	Yeah, I looked at the whole thing.
	It's apparently...
	Even with their old method, they had extra fees, and it was really taking more like 10% off the top or more.
	And now they're going to change the way the money comes in, and then they're going to take money from the donors.
	I don't know what the point of this is, by the way.
	I think it's very poorly executed.
	They're going to take some money from the donor, so the donations that they take their 5% to 10% out of will be less.
	And so it's just a screw job, it seems.
	I mean, this is, I think, and we talked about this over the dinner table.
	Well, it's not only that.
	It's also the people who are donating get docked extra, too.
	That's what I said, the donors.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Yes, the donors, but then the way they do it, they used to have, you said, okay, $5 a week or a month, whatever, and that would be deducted all in one go.
	Yeah, no, now the donors are getting dinged at the beginning, and so the total that goes in to get dinged even more is lower.
	Right.
	And so a lot of donors say, I'm not donating five bucks so you guys can take 50 cents.
	I'm donating five bucks so it can go to them, even though they're getting dinged.
	I mean, they could have done it better.
	They could have just jacked up their prices.
	This is what it amounts to, but they're doing it in some tricky dick way.
	Now, it doesn't seem...
	To be that complicated for them to just run a straightforward business and take a piece of the action.
	But these guys keep taking VC money too.
	I mean, how can they not be making money on this?
	How hard can it be?
	It's just a website.
	Yeah, it's just a...
	They're not hosting anything.
	It's just, you know, it's a processing system.
	Yeah, they're not hosting the feeds.
	Yeah, I don't get it.
	How much money do they need?
	Well, yeah.
	I mean, PayPal only takes up whatever it is, 4.5% to 5%.
	And they don't do any of this shenanigans.
	They just, you know, you just get your piece taken out or square.
	Yeah.
	What are these guys doing?
	They're not doing any marketing for you or they have a page that explains a little bit what you're doing.
	But I don't see that there's any benefit that you'd be giving them all this money.
	This is why we never signed on to it, even though we had a number of producers.
	Why don't you use PayPal?
	I'm sorry.
	Do it again.
	Do it properly.
	Why don't you use Patreon?
	Yeah.
	And so PayPal sucks is the other one.
	So we use PayPal because it doesn't suck, at least to us.
	And they allow us to do all these different programs and schemes in infinite number, it seems.
	And with Patreon, it's like you got your subscription, you got your $5, you got your $1.
	You know, kind of thing.
	It's not elaborate at all.
	You can't do a 989s thing.
	You can't do anything.
	It's very limited, and then they take money.
	I mean, come on.
	I don't understand why people hate PayPal and hate everybody and everything.
	How come all these creators aren't thriving on Bitcoin donations?
	It seems like that would be an obvious thing to do.
	Everyone hates PayPal.
	It sucks.
	You have money, what you think is money.
	You should use that.
	The other thing about PayPal is it's very easy to move the money from the PayPal account right into your bank account.
	Just bang.
	And you can do it as often as you want.
	You can do it daily.
	The Patreon guys, they give you a check once a month.
	I don't even know if you get a mailing list from them.
	I've never had this question answered.
	Is there anybody out there using Patreon?
	Answer the question.
	You have, say, 5,000 subscribers.
	For five bucks a month.
	That's good.
	That's reasonable.
	That's very reasonable.
	And do they give you the mailing list of the 5,000 people so you can further solicit them for other things?
	Like maybe you have a premium product or a t-shirt you want to send them?
	Do you get that mailing list or not?
	Yeah, that is an outstanding question.
	I don't know if you get that with Patreon or not.
	I know they send me emails as a patron.
	Well, there you go.
	Anyway, I don't know the answer to that question, but the rest of it, I still don't like it.
	And what's happened is no surprise to us.
	Right.
	And, you know, the idea of checks, electronic checks, multiple other types of payment systems, you should get on all of them.
	That's our recommendation.
	Yeah.
	Get POP money...
	It's a square I'm looking into because I think that has some opportunities.
	Definitely PayPal, you know, unless they hate you.
	I don't know what the deal is there.
	But yeah, everything you can use, you should use if it's usable.
	Yeah.
	But...
	Wait, wait.
	So...
	What do we know?
	What do we know?
	A fine reason not to participate in that program.
	And this is our very own Value for Value.
	It's actually your Value for Value program.
	And we appreciate the financial support.
	Another show coming up on Thursday.
	Dvorak.org.
	Many requests for jobs, Karma.
	Jobs.
	Jobs.
	And jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Yeah!
	You've got karma.
	And our list today includes Paul Saltzman, who celebrated yesterday Sir Sean of Slovakia.
	He turned 50 yesterday.
	Paul Saltzman was Friday.
	Samuel Cutts says happy birthday to Eric Brunn.
	He turns 30 today.
	And the No Agenda Show says a big welcome to the universe of Gibbo Nation to Harry Scalen Ward.
	That is Dame Sarah Harris' brand new son, you know, or Famous dame there in Australia who's on the morning TV show.
	She gave birth and we congratulate her.
	Happy birthday from all you buddies here, including Uncle John and Adam at the best podcast in the universe!
	Best podcast in the universe!
	Wait a minute.
	That's too early.
	We need to draw the swords first.
	Let me see.
	Where's mine?
	I've got mine ready.
	I can't find mine.
	Oh, here it is.
	Hey, man, you couldn't find your sword.
	I couldn't find my sword, man.
	Okay.
	Up to the stage, Bill Hartnett, Stuart Hilbert, and Jason Green.
	Gentlemen, all three of you are about to join the Noah Jenner roundtable of our knights and dames, and therefore I'm very, very proud to pronounce the KB. Black Knight Bill, Guardian of the Tower, Sir Achilles, and Sir Jason Green, Knight of the Order of No Agenda.
	Gentlemen, for you, I've got quite a nice lineup.
	We have hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, fish pie and fellatio, harlots and halbdol.
	We've got pepperoni rolls and pale ales, redheads and ryes, beer and blunts.
	We've got gerbils and ginger ale and mutton and mead.
	Which is right there at noagendanation.com slash rings.
	That's where Eric the Shill can take your information and get that off to you.
	I saw a lot of new pictures being tweeted around of people with the night rings.
	Yeah, I noticed.
	Well, it's because he sent out dozens and dozens.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, he sent out, of course he did.
	He sent out like a hundred or two.
	Right, right, right, right.
	No, they look good.
	It's nice.
	It's very nice when people do that.
	Yeah.
	On the show.
	I like it.
	Okay.
	Okay, what else do we got?
	Well, we have a company of this Russia thing.
	Oh, okay.
	What about the Russia thing?
	Well, the Russia thing, you know, it's kind of in the rotation.
	And now there's this Peter's, what's his name?
	Scrotum.
	I always remember Peter Scrotum.
	Strock.
	Strock.
	Oh, yeah, the Strock story.
	Yeah, he's the bad FBI agent.
	Now, you may have heard some reporting about it here and there.
	What I have is, from C-SPAN, the congressional hearing, This is Jim Jordan.
	He's a Republican from Ohio and he's talking to...
	This is a great clip.
	I almost was going to put it on my...
	Yeah, Jordan's great.
	He just grills him.
	And this is, as we know, this is all theater.
	It's all set up.
	And Ray is a Trump appointee, so I presume he's in on the game, and he got the script ahead of time.
	But the idea behind this is positioning this Stroke guy, Peter Stroke, as the bad actor who was responsible for Everything bad.
	Director, was Agent Peter Strzok the former deputy head of counterintelligence at the FBI? I don't remember his exact title, but I believe that's correct.
	And he's the same Peter Strzok who was a key player in the Clinton investigation, the same Peter Strzok who interviewed Cheryl Mills, whom Abedin participated in Secretary Clinton's interview, and he's also the same Peter Strzok who now we know changed Director Comey's exoneration letter, changed the term Gross negligence, which is a crime, to extreme carelessness.
	Is that the same guy?
	Well, Congressman, I don't know every step that the individual you mentioned was involved in, but certainly I know that he was heavily involved in the Clinton email investigation.
	Thank you.
	And is this the same Peter Strzok who was a key player in the Russian investigation and the same Peter Strzok who was put on Mueller's team, special counsel Bob Mueller's team?
	I certainly know that he was working on the special counsel's investigation.
	Whether or not he would be characterized as a key player on that investigation, that's really not for me to say.
	And the same Peter Strzok that we learned this past weekend was removed from the special counsel team because he exchanged text messages with a colleague at the FBI that were displayed a pro-Clinton bias.
	Is that accurate?
	Yes.
	Talk about the same guy.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Well, here's what I'm not getting.
	Peter Strzok is selected to be on Mueller's team after all this history, put on Mueller's team, and then he's removed for some pro-Clinton text messages.
	I mean, there are all kinds of people on Mueller's team who are pro-Clinton.
	There's been all kinds of stories.
	PolitiFact reported 96% of the top lawyers' contributions went to Clinton or Obama.
	But Peter Strzok, the guy who ran the Clinton investigation, interviewed Mills, Abedin, interviewed Secretary Clinton, changed gross negligence, a crime to the term extreme carelessness, who ran the Russian investigation, who interviewed Mike Flynn, gets put on Mueller's team, And then he gets kicked off for a text message that's anti-Trump.
	If he kicked everybody off Mueller's team who was anti-Trump, I don't think there'd be anybody left.
	So there's got to be something more here.
	It can't just be some text messages that show a pro-Clinton, anti-Trump bias.
	There's got to be something more.
	And I'm trying to figure out what it is.
	But my hunch is it has something to do with the dossier.
	Director did Peter Strzok help produce and present the application to the FISA court to secure a warrant to spy on Americans associated with the Trump campaign.
	Congressman, I'm not prepared to discuss anything about a FISA process in this setting.
	We're not talking about what happened in the court.
	We're talking about what the FBI took to the court, the application.
	Did Peter Strzok, was he involved in taking that to the court?
	I'm not going to discuss in this setting anything to do with the FISA court applications.
	Well, let's remember a couple things, Director.
	And I know you know this.
	We've all been made aware of this in the last few weeks.
	Let's remember a couple things about the dossier.
	The Democrat National Committee and the Clinton campaign, which we now know were one and the same, paid the law firm who paid Fusion GPS, who paid Christopher Steele, who then paid Russians to put together a report that we call a dossier full of all kinds of fake news National Enquirer garbage.
	And it's been reported that this dossier was all dressed up by the FBI, taken to the FISA court, and presented as a legitimate intelligence document basis for granting a warrant to spy on Americans.
	And I'm wondering if that actually took place.
	It sure looks like it did.
	And the easiest way to clear it up is for you guys to tell us what was in that application.
	And who took it there?
	Congressman, our staffs have been having extensive interaction with both intelligence committees on our interaction with the FISA court, and I think that's the appropriate setting for those questions.
	Seems like Peter Strzok is going to be the fall guy.
	Did you get the kicker?
	I don't have it.
	Jordan holds up a document that was Two days old, he says they sent it to the FBI to get this information about the FISA court warrant.
	And then the kicker is when it kicks back, because he runs out of time, kicks back to the chairman.
	The chairman, because this is a judiciary.
	I should cut it off.
	I've made it all too long.
	But yeah, go ahead.
	He says, hey, we're the ones that have jurisdiction over all of this, including the FISA court, so if we want this information, you have to give it to us.
	You have to give it to us, yeah.
	But he hasn't produced it.
	As far as we know, he hasn't, no.
	So, this is interesting.
	Now, all of this comes down to the...
	And actually, if you look at what happened with Flynn, everyone was all going goo-goo-ga-ga, that, ah, yes, now we have proof about the collusion.
	About them talking to the Russians.
	And what's interesting is someone sent me this clip.
	We have to go back in time.
	It's about a year.
	So let's just go back.
	Oh, I feel younger already.
	This is a classic Matt Lee clip over there at the State Department.
	This is before Heather came in.
	This is still the other dude.
	Big binder man.
	And Matt Lee is talking about the Trump administration talking to the Russians.
	You probably have seen reports starting yesterday, but then more of them this morning, about contact between...
	The incoming National Security Advisor and the Russian Ambassador.
	I'm just wondering, from the State Department's point of view, is this something that's of concern at all?
	Or I'll just leave it there and then follow up.
	Again, not necessarily.
	I've seen the reports.
	I don't think they've been confirmed or corroborated yet.
	But, you know, that's – as he's part of the transition team, that's really for them to speak to and how they are engaging.
	I mean, the president-elect has also engaged on his own with many world leaders.
	Right.
	I don't want to speculate, and I don't want to...
	No, there's nothing...
	This building doesn't see anything necessarily, you know, inappropriate about contact between members of the incoming administration and foreign officials, no matter what country they're from, right?
	No.
	No.
	And, again, this has been ongoing.
	I mean, we stand ready if they want to work through the State Department to contact some of these individuals, but we have no...
	You know, no comment or no problem with them doing such on their own.
	Isn't that interesting?
	Yeah, yeah, that's been played a lot in regard to this whole thing.
	So how do we get from that back to 2017?
	Well, I have a clip from today.
	From today's world.
	The Morning Joes.
	The campaign.
	Trump didn't think he was going to win, even on election day.
	But it was all about money.
	It was all about making contacts.
	We've said this before, but I think the most remarkable thing about it is...
	Even now that he's president, it's still all about money.
	Like, he's not sitting there thinking what Barack Obama or George W. Bush or Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan thought.
	Like, what is my legacy going to be?
	He's thinking every day, how can I leverage this so when I get out of the White House, I can make even more money?
	Knowing them, I think they're shocked that the noose is tightening.
	Because I don't know if they were arrogant or just incredibly unselfaware and really dumb about, like, what the job was about, how important it was, and how under the microscope every move you made would be.
	I think they just thought they'd go in there and flim-flam and riff through it.
	And I think they're shocked that the noose is tightening.
	And that people might go to jail.
	You're exactly right.
	For the rest of their lives.
	For the rest of their lives, they're going to jail.
	For the rest of their lives.
	These two are deluded.
	There is one thing that I think is being overlooked.
	I have a feeling that Trump and Mueller may be inadvertently, but who knows, could be actually working together on one particular thing.
	Trump has a problem.
	You've mentioned this many times, and they're kind of off the radar right now.
	The problem is Jared and Ivanka.
	They're problematic.
	You, in particular, do not like them.
	In context of being part of the political process.
	Right.
	And I'm pretty sure that Trump is also, you know, he's got a problem.
	He's got his son-in-law.
	You can't fire his son-in-law.
	I mean, this is his favorite daughter.
	I mean, it's a family mess.
	And even though the guy is a big, tough one on you're fired, I don't think he has the stomach to do that.
	No, he hasn't got the balls to get rid of him.
	I think the following deal was cut with Michael Flynn.
	We have to have some offense.
	So he has a felony offense for lying to the FBI. Fell on his sword.
	Yeah, fell on his sword.
	Because who told him to do what he did?
	It wasn't Trump.
	It was Jared.
	It could be a setup to get rid of him.
	And I think it is.
	And I think Jared is out.
	Well, let's hope so.
	Maybe to jail.
	I want to bring something up before we go on to get too carried away, which was this thing with Struck again.
	Yeah.
	And the letter that he wrote to one of his colleagues saying, you know, Trump's an a-hole, let's get him, or whatever.
	By the way, her name is Lisa Page, and she worked for, remember the, I think, state representative whose wife the Clintons gave $650,000?
	Yeah.
	She used to work for him or for her, I think.
	So it's all tied in.
	Well, here's what's not tied in.
	How do they know about this letter?
	I have no idea.
	Let's play this clip.
	This is McFarland.
	This is about Katie McFarland and the intercepted discussion.
	This is from Democracy Now.
	Meanwhile, the New York Times is reporting that a high-ranking member of Trump's transition team falsely told lawmakers that she was unaware of contacts between Michael Flynn and Russia's ambassador.
	The Times cited newly discovered emails that show the advisor, KT McFarland, discussed a December 29th phone call between Flynn and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak that was intercepted by U.S. intelligence.
	Okay, so there's an email between McFarlane and somebody, private citizens, by the way, was intercepted by U.S. intelligence and then somehow discovered by the New York Times as if it wasn't slipped to the New York Times.
	And how does it get discovered?
	I mean, that needs a warrant by itself.
	Yeah, it's not discovered.
	It was leaked.
	And the same thing with the struck letter thing.
	This was also apparently something the NSA, I'm guessing the NSA, it could be anybody, but the NSA or one of the agencies, Illegally leaked.
	Captured and then illegally leaked.
	Yeah.
	It's a mess.
	It's a mess.
	This is ridiculous.
	Yeah.
	This is completely out of control.
	And this is one of the reasons they've got to change the way this law is written, because it's being abused.
	It's section whatever it is.
	702, is it?
	I think it's 702 or something.
	I think it's 7-something.
	And they can't pass this again because these guys are abusing this.
	This is not supposed to be...
	This is supposed to be for terrorism.
	It's not terrorism here.
	This is stealing the email of Katie McFarland.
	I'm surprised these people haven't put up a fuss about this.
	Yeah.
	Hmm.
	Well, everything's falling apart.
	In the intelligence community, that is.
	I mean, FBI, man.
	I don't know what's going on there.
	But just look at the mess they made out of the Vegas massacre.
	Do you know that it turns out that not only did the FBI leak...
	No.
	I think the FBI sanctioned the leak of the Paddock photo.
	But they also moved the body before the whole scene was recorded and documented.
	I guess they staged the body to look good for the photo or something?
	I didn't know this.
	Yeah, this is just new.
	It just came out before the show started.
	The whole thing's a mess.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it is.
	All right.
	I have a current Russia clip that I held on to for an episode or two.
	There's something going on.
	Tillerson, you know, he is, of course, a big oil guy.
	Big oil.
	Big oil.
	And he's been doing deals.
	And someone caught wind of it, and it came up in the State Department briefing with Heather Nauert, who also has that big binder.
	Deputy Assistant Secretary McCarrick told a group of European journalists...
	That, I quote, we don't see the possibility that Nord Stream 2 is going to be built.
	Now he's talking about Nord Stream 2.
	And this is a big deal for Russia.
	Because they already have the Nord Stream, the original Nord Stream, that basically goes into Europe.
	Now this is a partnership with Gazprom, so this is gas.
	Royal Dutch Shell, Eon, OMV, and Angers, I think.
	And the path is...
	I think this is the one that was...
	Let me see, I have a picture of it here.
	Let's see, the Nord Stream...
	Yeah, this is the one that would go around Finland...
	Down to what enters Germany at Greifswald.
	And so it goes through the sea.
	So it goes right underneath Finland.
	And it's all in the water.
	So no one really benefits from this.
	But Tillerson's been talking about it with the Russians.
	That's not something that we are going to assume is going to happen.
	Could you explain what is the statement based on?
	And I'm wondering if the topic has been discussed during the meeting between Secretary Tillerson and German foreign minister, and what's the conclusion of the discussion, if in fact it was one of the topics?
	Yeah, I can tell you that that conversation did not come up.
	Nord Stream 2 was not one of the topics that came up in my presence.
	Now, they may have had a separate sideline conversation that I did not witness, so that may have come up.
	In terms of where exactly we are on Nord Stream 2, pardon me one second, another topic related to that is the multi-line Turkish stream, as I understand it.
	So our position on this would be that Europe is certainly working to try to diversify where it gets its energy.
	I've spoken with some of your colleagues before, people from that part of the world as well, and recognizing that there should be and could be more sources of energy.
	We have seen in the very cold winter months where Vladimir Putin, which is where a lot of your energy comes from, in particular in Poland, where he will turn down, turn off those energy supplies.
	Causing costs to go up and causing people to lose heat on occasion.
	In the Ukraine, yes, because they didn't pay their bill.
	So we know that Europe is working to diversify its energy sector overall.
	It's also assessing projects that would undermine some of these efforts.
	We agree with many of our European partners that Nord Stream 2 and a multi-line Turkish stream would reinforce Russian dominance in Europe's gas markets.
	It would reduce opportunities for diversification of energy sources.
	It would pose security risks in an already tense Baltic Sea region.
	And it would advance Russia's goal of undermining Ukraine.
	That's a particular concern of ours.
	By ending Ukraine's role as a transit country for Russian gas exports to get to Europe.
	Do you see the problem?
	This Nord Stream 2 is not in our interest, and Tillerson is out there doing the business of Merck and gas and oil companies.
	Well, that's kind of what he's supposed to do.
	Didn't we expect this?
	Yeah, but what a missed opportunity for the media to highlight that it's actually going on.
	Oh, they don't care about that.
	It's got nothing to do with Trump, really.
	Yeah.
	Two would concentrate about 75% of Russian gas imports to the EU through a single route, creating a potential checkpoint that would significantly increase Europe's vulnerability.
	I think she means choke point, not checkpoint.
	I like checkpoint better.
	So we believe that these two projects would enable Gazprom to cut off transit via Ukraine and still meet demand in Western Europe, which would economically undermine Europe.
	But is this statement correct, that you don't believe that the project would be built, that the Nord Stream 2 would be built?
	And Secretary Tillerson called recently the Nord Stream 2 unwise.
	What are you doing to stop this unwise project?
	Sir, I don't have the Secretary's comments in front of me, so I hesitate to comment on Two days ago at the Woodrow Wilson Center.
	I understand.
	I just don't have the exact quote in front of me, so I'm just not going to comment on that.
	And the other person who made a remark, I'm afraid I don't have that with me either.
	All right.
	So the oil pipeline wars continue.
	Yeah, that's not going to end anytime soon.
	No.
	For the duration of the show, that's for sure.
	Probably going on forever.
	No, but it is of note since we follow these pipeline stories.
	How are we doing for time?
	We should be at the limit here.
	Nah, we can do a couple more, I think.
	Well, I have a couple of clips that I want to use.
	I have a WTF clip, which is always interesting.
	I have a Trump lies clip, because they're always saying he's lying all the time.
	And I was listening to this clip, and I'm wondering whether this is a deliberate lie, or just he doesn't know.
	Play the black home ownership clip from CBS. Ah, yes.
	At last night's rally in Pensacola, Florida, President Trump implied African Americans are doing better under his leadership.
	Black home ownership just hit the highest level it's ever been in the history of our country.
	Congratulations.
	Now, despite the president's claim, African-American home ownership actually peaked in 2004.
	It seems the key audience for the president's speech were Gulf Coast Republicans, primarily those heading to the polls next week in Alabama's special election.
	Rena?
	I haven't looked into this, but it's possible that he was told that the home ownership had peaked or had gone up, and he didn't realize it was really high in 2004 or something.
	I don't believe this was a lie.
	No.
	I think he's misinformed.
	I saw this entire speech, or this rally in Pensacola, Florida, the Scientology capital of the South.
	No, no, it's Clearwater.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I thought you said Pensacola.
	Clearwater.
	And I have to say, because I was tuning in to watch Carlson, Tucker Carlson, then I was like, oh, it's not going to be his show because the president's going to do some shindig.
	And CNN and MSNBC did not carry the speech.
	Obviously, this was a speech intended to rile up voters just across the state line, which is, what, 25, 30 miles away in Alabama, to vote for Roy Moore.
	But for a Friday evening, this was some good entertainment.
	He was truly in rare form, John.
	You would have enjoyed it.
	I mean, it was just one after the other, just zinger after zinger, and the audience was into it.
	It was just really good.
	That's where this came from.
	Dingo!
	I mean, he was just delivering beauties to us.
	Non-stop.
	It was really quite good.
	When he's on a roll, he can be pretty funny.
	Yeah, and the reason why this came up, It's because, oh, look at my man over there.
	It was blacksfortrump2020.com.
	There's a movement, Blacks for Trump.
	And that's when he brought up this factoid, which was not...
	And he's getting better at off-the-cuff and then going back to the teleprompter.
	But he had all kinds of new moves, man.
	He had a chop move.
	He kept doing a chop move with his hand, like a karate chop.
	And he was just, I don't know, someone's got to look into that and maybe look at the, see if Bombard's body language helps us at all.
	Probably not.
	And then I would be remiss if I did not play this clip for you.
	This is the Pussy Scouts of America.
	Pussyscoutsofamerica.com, which apparently is prepubescent teenage girls.
	And they hate the president, and they have a website.
	You can look it up, John, while we're playing the clip.
	Pussyscoutsofamerica.com.
	Pussyscoutsofamerica.com.
	Is it Pussyscoutsofamerica.com?
	I believe it's Pussyscoutsofamerica.com.
	And here's their little song.
	Oh, Scouts!
	Oh, Scouts!
	Ready for your song about President Trump!
	Yay!
	Yay!
	Grannie B's dropping her feet, that's it!
	We're gonna rap about a president, sex, dick!
	We call women fat pigs, so no respect!
	Try to grab my pussy, you're gonna get wrecked!
	Cutting plant parenthood, health, hair!
	And it didn't work, fuck being fucked up hair!
	You said it, ladies!
	You gotta treat it like shit!
	She was rapist, sex, assault culprit!
	I take away a woman's abortion life.
	My man's Liz Warren.
	I'll take it down on a fight.
	Like we just lay it.
	Choked out.
	Drop of the hut.
	The women's march showed.
	Women's Mount Camp was shut.
	Super callous.
	Props for racist.
	Sex is not my potent.
	Yeah.
	Bullshit racist.
	Muslim ban.
	You love the Nazis.
	And the cook is the plan.
	You're all stopping immigrants that you hate and berate.
	Is this is ignorance?
	Don't make America great.
	Pussy Scout starts backwards.
	Bye!
	We're future boss bitches.
	And we drop the mic.
	Pussyscouts.com.
	The pussy hat emerged in the Women's March as a powerful symbol of the fight for equality.
	Get your hat or get involved with the cause and get a shirt.
	Girls just want to have fun.
	Demental rights.
	This is what a feminist looks like.
	PussyScouts.com Child abuse.
	Well, it's child abuse.
	It's obviously put together by the Roger Stone of the Democrats, whoever that might be.
	But this is a fake operation.
	There's no question about it.
	But these girls, they don't even know what sex is, and they're talking about grabbing by the pussy.
	Well, that's because it's all scripted.
	They've given it to them to sing that, and you can be a little star for a while.
	And so this is pathetic.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Really, really sad.
	And it is child abuse.
	In fact, it's really bad.
	I think it's a felony to have kids cussing and talking like that.
	No.
	Not good.
	At least the Roger Stone people play with adults.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's bad.
	Very bad.
	The funny thing is, there's a couple of...
	I ran into this when I was doing a search for this.
	American Boy Scouts express interest in pussy-grabbing badge.
	Yeah.
	Now, this is bullcrap, too, obviously, but there's a thing, you know, this is, again, we're back to that cycle of, you know, Trump being a predator, and so we're seeing stuff like this for this round, because the other round of all this sexual humiliation, sexual whatever it is, is ending.
	With this election on Tuesday, and they've got to get things cranked up in a different way.
	And that's what we're going to see.
	Wait a minute.
	Say that again about Tuesday?
	Tuesday, the whole sexual harassment thing is going to swing down because that's the election day.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	That's when it all ends.
	It doesn't end completely because a lot of people don't realize it's supposed to end.
	Right.
	And so they'll kind of drag it out.
	But it's pretty much going to end.
	Hmm.
	And whatever happens, the more.
	If he gets elected, then they've got to be...
	What do you think?
	What do you think?
	I think it's a toss-up.
	I think he can get in.
	He could not win.
	He could win either way.
	I think the Alabamans are pretty independent thinkers, and I believe they'll probably vote him in out of spite.
	Right.
	Hmm.
	I mean, it wouldn't surprise me.
	I just want to thank everybody for, and I put a couple of these notes into the show notes, 989.knowagendanotes.com.
	You can find it at archive.knowagendanotes.com or just bingit, bingit.io.
	Bingit.
	Just bingit, yes.
	CRISPR, C-R-I-S-P-R. This is the DNA editing stuff.
	And Illuminati, who's done a lot of good art for us, is a molecular biologist, and she's used CRISPR to change the DNA in yeast so it can produce a protein of our choosing.
	For instance, she says we can get yeast to make insulin and other kinds of beneficial proteins.
	And this CRISPR technology was discovered in 87, became commonly used in 2013, and got Innovation of the Year Award in 2015.
	It stands for Cluster Regulatory Interspaced Short Palindromic Repeats.
	Without getting too technical, she says, it essentially mimics how bacteria protects itself from viruses by ripping apart the invading DNA, making it inert.
	It then stores the genetic information into a library to better identify any future attacks from future invasions of the same species.
	I think this is what they're using in the UK for the rats.
	Could be.
	Yeah.
	It's a long way to go for that one.
	No, but you know what?
	That just came to mind, but I mean, this is very interesting stuff, and you can pretty much do it at home almost.
	Yeah.
	It's a new era.
	Yeah.
	I have one last clip.
	All right.
	This is my Iraq.
	It says U-Rock, by the way, the U. Iraq, ISIS, U.S. troops, WTF, VBS. While Iraq declared victory today over ISIS, Iraq's Prime Minister says the Islamic militant group was driven out of its final stronghold along the Syrian border.
	ISIS swept into Iraq in 2014.
	Three years of fighting have left cities and villages and ruins with about three million Iraqis displaced.
	American troops will remain in Iraq for the foreseeable future.
	That's right.
	Why are we remaining?
	For the money, baby.
	For the money.
	For the foreseeable future.
	Great!
	That was fantastic, Mr.
	Bush, for bringing us into that thing.
	Well, how about Mr.
	Trump not getting us out?
	Well, how about Mr.
	Obama not getting us out?
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	The statement you made about your trip to Gitmo Nation GMT is that there are no rats.
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	Are you sure there's no rats?
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	Experts at Edinburgh University have come up with a solution to the apparent rat problem in the UK. Science!
	The researchers are proposing releasing genetically mutated rats into the rat population.
	Science!
	What could possibly go wrong?
	Wow!
	Genetically mutated rats are in your future.
	Science!
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	That'd be fantastic.
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