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	Adam Couric, John C. Dvorak.
	And it's Thursday, December 14th, 2017.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 990.
	This is No Agenda.
	Deconstructing dead neutrality so you don't have to call Congress.
	And broadcasting live from downtown Austin, Tejas, Captain Jones, Star State, in the cladio, in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where our minds are in the gutter, I'm John C. Devorak.
	It's crack, blood, and buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Yes, not just ours, but the entire media landscape and Democratic Party.
	Yes, seems so.
	Yeah, good newsletter.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	Actually, I think I pulled a clip of...
	Maybe I didn't.
	I thought I had a clip of Sarah Sanders.
	Saying, get your mind out of the gutter!
	Well, actually, I have a whole clip.
	Oh, I have it.
	I have it.
	I have it.
	Oh, you have a whole clip?
	I got a short clip.
	I have the whole clip where the question's asked, and she goes on.
	It's actually a better clip, the whole clip.
	Okay.
	Which one is it?
	This would be Sarah Sanders, it should say, no.
	You'd expect it to start with an S. Yeah, you would, wouldn't you?
	Yeah.
	How about Gillibrand before Trump tweet?
	No, that's good.
	That's actually...
	If you want to do the Gillibrand story, I might as well do it from scratch.
	No, no.
	Well, then let me do the April Ryan question if we can't find it here.
	It's on here.
	I don't think so.
	Yes.
	Well, they're your clips.
	Or Jones tidbits.
	Trump, no.
	More slightly twisted analysis, more support from Trump.
	No.
	Bullard-Barrett T versus G. Unbelievable.
	Okay, I'll play mine then.
	Is that okay?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	April, is Gillibrand owed an apology for the misunderstanding of I think only if your mind is in the gutter would you have read it that way.
	So no.
	Hunter?
	No, it's not.
	What he said was open, and it was not mined in the gut.
	He's obviously talking about political partisan games that people often play, and the broken system that he's talked about repeatedly.
	This isn't new.
	This isn't a new sentiment.
	This isn't new terminology.
	He's used it several times before.
	As I said a few minutes ago, he's used it several times before, referencing men of both parties, in fact.
	And so, I think that there, if you look back at the past comments he's made, it was very clear what his reference was.
	Hunter?
	So, looking at this issue with the system, the President gave almost $8,000 to Senator Gillibrand over the years.
	His daughter also gave her $2,000.
	What specifically did they get?
	Blowjob?
	Look, I think oftentimes what you do, you're getting access.
	A member of Congress will take your phone call.
	They'll take your meeting.
	And if you're driving something as a businessman that the president may or may not have been driving at any particular point, you can talk to that individual about it.
	And sometimes they carry your water.
	That's...
	That's a reason that we have a broken system.
	That's a reason that often special interests control our government more than the people do.
	And that's one of the reasons that this president ran to be president.
	It's one of the top reasons I think that he won and that he's sitting in the Oval Office today and Hillary Clinton's not because he couldn't be bought and everybody knew that she could because they'd seen it time and time again.
	And now it's time for your sexual harassment update.
	That's right, everybody.
	The new agenda sexual harassment update.
	Well, since we started with the gutter clip, if you're going to have your mind in the gutter, I want you to listen to these two ISOs I have.
	ISO of ISOs and ISO 2, but start with ISO of ISOs.
	And with your mind in the gutter, tell me what's going on.
	I've loved it since I've been old enough to chew.
	All right, so this is really fantastic.
	And I can notice just from picking it up, it's very soft.
	Soft, right.
	Absolutely.
	Creamy.
	Melts in your mouth.
	Yes.
	Oh my...
	Big bite.
	Thank you very much.
	Well, it's clearly a native ad for something.
	Play ISO 2.
	Thank you very much.
	Wow.
	Is that ever good?
	Well, what is it?
	Now you've given me no answer.
	It's a clip from QVC. They're selling fudge.
	You know, I gotta tell you, I was doing something else.
	I saw my timeline go crazy over something the president had tweeted.
	I take a look at it.
	I chuckle because I'm like, yeah, exactly.
	These douches will do anything.
	And that's how it works.
	But really, and then I was like, what is this, slut-shaming all of a sudden?
	I see people saying he's slut-shaming.
	They've gone out of control.
	In fact, even, play this clip.
	This is, play Gwen Stefani.
	Oh, yeah, she's getting some heat, our Gwen is.
	Well, I think the point she's making is that this is a very powerful moment in America's history, and not only should women be heard, but they should be believed, and they should be investigated.
	So when you have these allegations coming forward, those allegations should be investigated, just like you would invest any other allegation of fraud or...
	Yeah.
	That was Kirsten Gillibrand.
	Yeah, but why does it say Gwen Stefani?
	I thought she sounds like her.
	Now, Gwen Stefani's getting all kinds of heat because she's friends with Chelsea Handler.
	And, you know, Gwen, you can't be with the sexiest man alive, who's a country guy, a white bumpkin, and then be hanging out with a Trump-hater.
	That doesn't work.
	That just can't be.
	This will not stand.
	Well, let's go.
	I thought you'd be more impressed with the Gwen Stefani clip.
	But here is Gillibrand before the Trump tweet, and this is what got the whole thing started.
	Okay.
	President Trump should resign.
	These allegations are credible.
	They are numerous.
	I've heard these women's testimony, and many of them are heartbreaking.
	And President Trump should resign his position.
	Whether he will ever hold himself accountable is something, you know, you really can't hold your breath for.
	And so Congress should have hearings.
	They should do their investigation.
	They should have appropriate investigations of his behavior and hold him accountable.
	Sure.
	So you are standing by your prominent senator colleagues, Senator Cory Booker and others, who have called today for the president to resign.
	I hear you very clearly agreeing with them.
	Do you think, though, that there should be, as these women have called for, a bipartisan investigation?
	Or are you calling for an immediate resignation?
	I think he should immediately resign.
	And if he doesn't, we should have the investigation.
	Let me back that up with a quick clip from these three women who are members, who are part of this film, 16 Women and Donald Trump.
	So these are some old, some new accusers of the president.
	And first they went on Megyn Kelly's show, three of them did.
	And then they did a PR event for the movie they're in, run by Brave Films, which is clearly a very partisan outfit.
	I looked at their nine.
	They got like $3 million in the bank, which I thought was a lot of money for just a little nonprofit doing a film.
	But okay. um The allegations are pretty intense.
	I am hoping that this will come forward and produce enough pressure on...
	Congress to address it more than just for their own members, but to address it in the president.
	They've investigated other Congress members, so I think it only stands fair that he be investigated as well.
	If they were willing to investigate Senator Franken, I think it's only fair that they do the same for Trump.
	I mean, it's pretty flimsy.
	Does anybody...
	Yeah, no kidding.
	Does anybody know anything about separation of powers?
	Not these people.
	You listen to this trailer, or I don't know if it's an excerpt or if it's a trailer of these women, and I have a comment about one of them.
	He groped me.
	He absolutely groped me.
	And he just slipped his hand there, touching my private part.
	He turned to me and embraced me and gave me a kiss on the lips.
	And I remember being shocked because I would have just thought to shake somebody's hand, but that was his first response.
	It was a real shock when all of a sudden his hands were all over me.
	When he started putting his hand up my skirt, And that was it.
	That was it.
	The person on my right, who unbeknownst to me at that time was Donald Trump, put their hand up my skirt.
	He did touch my vagina through my underwear.
	The women walked across the table.
	Donald Trump would look up under their skirt and, you know, comment on whether they had underwear or didn't have underwear.
	I didn't want to have to walk across the table.
	I wanted to get out of there.
	Then his hand touched the right inside of my breath.
	I felt intimidated and I felt powerless.
	Lana was standing right next to him when he touched my butt.
	When we entered the room, he grabbed each of us tightly in a hug and kissed each one of us without asking permission.
	After that, I received another call from either Donald or a male calling on his behalf, offering me $10,000.
	His actions are a huge testament to his character, that of uncontrollable misogyny, entitlement, and being a sexual assault apologist.
	I'm sitting there in my robe and having my makeup and hair done and everything, and he comes walking in, and I was just like, oh my goodness, what is he doing back here?
	I saw him walk into the dressing room.
	He just came strolling right in.
	There was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or anything.
	Some girls were topless, other girls were naked.
	Walting in when we're naked or half naked in a very physically vulnerable position.
	Now, touching butts and vulvas and stuff, I can't comment on that.
	Sounds pretty egregious, but The last voice you heard was one of the Miss USA contestants.
	Trump owned the franchise.
	And let me tell you, I've been around a lot of fashion shows and have participated in them.
	I've emceed them.
	And when you're backstage, everyone's naked and no one gives a shit.
	They do not care.
	All the girls want is a smoke, some coffee, and some coke.
	That's all they want.
	And they don't care.
	I would agree with that, and not that I've been back there, but it's been documented.
	All you have to do is watch some of these TV shows where they're doing a runway, backstage runway stuff, and there's guys all over the place wandering around.
	Yes.
	Yeah, so that last thing is bullcrap.
	I also think, I don't know how much of the other stuff is bullcrap, but probably half of it, but the problem I'm foreseeing is that I just can't Have to assume that Roger Stone has put some phonies in there.
	He's planted a couple of girls.
	They're going to come out and say, I was paid to say this.
	And then it's going to get Trump off the hook and embarrass the Democrats.
	But on this stupid tweet, which has caused trouble, listen to the Gillibrand tweet with Mika.
	And then, who's shaking like a leaf, apparently, because she read this tweet.
	It's the worst thing she's ever read.
	And then Katie Kay, who's an anchorwoman for the BBC America, She says something and makes a flub that I want to comment on.
	Yesterday, because they were all on TV yesterday.
	Just be sure that the fact that the three of us here are literally shaking in anger, that tweet meant a lot.
	That tweet said so much about his character.
	That tweet said so much about how this White House is run.
	That tweet was one of the worst things I've seen so far in this presidency, actually.
	And here's why it's so undermining.
	You can make it to the stage of senator.
	You can do everything by the rules.
	You can be as good as the guys.
	Hold on.
	What was that one person clapping about?
	I know.
	One person clapping.
	To the stage of senator, you can do everything by the rules.
	You can be as good as the guys around you.
	You can be the top of your class.
	And if you're a woman, you can get to the top and you can still have that kind of crap thrown at you.
	Well, no doubt.
	No doubt.
	You hear a flub?
	No, I was too distracted by the clapping.
	Is it the last bit?
	Let me hear it again.
	Why is that not working?
	And here's why it's so undermining.
	You can make it to the stage of senator.
	You can do everything by the rules.
	You can be as good as the guys around you.
	You can be the top of your class.
	And if you're a woman, you can get to the top and you can still have that kind of crap thrown at you.
	I mean, the guys against you instead of...
	This is the way she...
	This is Katie Kay.
	This is the way she sees the workplace.
	Yeah, the guys are against her.
	Yeah, the guys are against her.
	Is she seeing it because she's against them?
	And it's like a competitive thing and you have to do what you have to do?
	But I find it was very interesting that she'd say that because that's what she was trying to say and she changed it to around you so it didn't sound so harsh.
	Because the men are all against me.
	I don't know.
	I found this whole thing to be quite funny.
	You mentioned...
	Well, yeah.
	In that clip, I like specifically where she says, you know, this is his mindset.
	No, that's your mindset.
	That is exactly the opposite.
	It is your mindset.
	You read that.
	It's what's in your head.
	This was an interesting...
	I don't know if you heard about this, but Bill O'Reilly called into Glenn Beck's show with an interesting allegation.
	I want to tell you one thing, though.
	I don't know if I mentioned this on your program.
	But I predicted, and we discussed last week, that there's going to be a tremendous assault on President Trump coming.
	I agree.
	Probably come in January.
	Because he did get the tax reform passed, and the Democrats now say, well, we've got to destroy him because he may get re-elected.
	There is a tape, Beck, an audio tape, of an anti-Trump person offering $200,000 to a woman.
	To accuse Donald Trump of untoward behavior.
	So, you know, you have talked to me about this.
	You've talked to me about this tape.
	You've talked to me about it privately as well with additional information.
	Is this tape going to be released?
	Well, I may have to go to the U.S. attorney myself.
	I don't want to have to do that and inject myself into the story.
	But I had my lawyer listen to the tape.
	My attorney.
	Right.
	He's listened to it.
	There are at least three crimes on the tape.
	So as a citizen, I may have to do this.
	Oh, he hates inserting himself into the story.
	I'm sure, Bill.
	What a phony.
	I'm curious if there's something to it, though.
	That's kind of funny.
	There probably is something to it, but his, oh my God, I have to get involved.
	Bull crap is ridiculous.
	But okay.
	I'm sorry.
	No, go ahead.
	Here's the big rundown.
	I want to get it out of the way.
	This is the rundown of the Trump versus Gillibrand story on CBS, and I think it's pretty good.
	And it kind of covers all the stuff we just covered, but it also gives it a little more depth to the whole thing.
	I think it's not a bad report.
	T versus G. Ah, makes nothing but sense.
	Bitter argument has broken out between the president and the junior senator from his home state.
	It began when Democrat Kirsten Gillibrand called on Mr.
	Trump to resign.
	And by the way, is it Gillibrand?
	Is it Gillibrand?
	Do we really know what the official pronunciation is?
	No, we don't.
	I like Gillibrand better.
	I think it is Gillibrand.
	Senator from his home state.
	It began when Democrat Kirsten Gillibrand called on Mr.
	Trump to resign because of accusations of sexual misconduct against him.
	The president fired back with his weapon of choice, the tweet.
	With the latest on this, here's Nancy Cordes.
	It was a sexist smear attempting to silence my voice.
	New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand was attending a bipartisan Bible study this morning when the president sent his suggestive tweet calling her a lightweight and flunky who once begged him for campaign contributions and would do anything for them.
	I think it was shameful.
	Democrats called the president's words and grotesque.
	Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren even accused him of trying to intimidate and slut-shame Gillibrand.
	I think only if your mind is in the gutter would you have read it that way.
	White House Press Secretary said.
	Sarah Sanders insisted there was no innuendo.
	He's obviously talking about political partisan games that people often play and the broken system that he's talked about repeatedly.
	But by this afternoon, more than 100 House Democrats had signed a letter requesting that the House Committee on Oversight investigate the reports of sexual misconduct raised against President Trump by more than a dozen women, stretching back to the 1980s.
	Forced kissing, unwanted touching and groping on an airplane, in a corporate office, in a pageant dressing room.
	Democrats forced out two of their own members last week over similar allegations.
	I'm sorry, Mr.
	President, you do not live under a different set of rules.
	But the party that controls Congress...
	What we're in charge of here is the Senate.
	...does not want to touch the issue.
	Should there be a formal investigation?
	I thought that's what the last election was.
	Gillibrand says she won't stop trying.
	Republican leaders have been reluctant to even acknowledge the allegations against President Trump.
	Why do you think they'd be willing to open an investigation?
	That is the right thing to do, and I am urging them to do that, and as should their constituents.
	Late this afternoon, the Republican chair of the House Oversight Committee officially declined to open an investigation, but for an unexpected reason.
	He said the allegations against President Trump, if true, are crimes and therefore are better handled by the Justice Department than Congress.
	Yeah, but no one, as far as I know, has filed any suit or any official complaint even.
	No, they haven't filed anything.
	So this is...
	What bothers me about this is the Democrats are...
	And maybe Scott Adams kind of implies this with his analysis of these tweets.
	The Democrats are spinning their wheels over this sexual breast-touching or butt-grabbing or whatever he's done.
	As far as I can tell, all he's done was talk a big game, which was what was going on with that...
	Access Hollywood tape or whatever.
	I don't think that was.
	And they're missing, like, we've just spent $700 billion on a military budget, which is money going to an out-of-control Defense Department they're supposed to audit sometime next year.
	By the way, one of our producers sent me a note, and his company is doing the audit.
	He says, I don't know if we'll get anywhere.
	He says, but we're doing it.
	It is really happening.
	Yeah.
	Good luck with that.
	Just saying.
	I just wanted to let everyone know.
	We got people in important places.
	So we have...
	So this is going on at this...
	I mean, if they really did an audit and found out where all the money was wasted...
	I was going to use the word going, but I meant wasted.
	They could probably get by with a $500 billion budget and put $200 billion into the economy that would do some people some good, fix the potholes in Highway 80, for example.
	There it is.
	And I would say that this would be more of an issue besides the guy grabbing somebody's butt 20 years ago.
	Who cares?
	The Democrats are completely...
	And by the way, and I do have a lot of clips about this Roy Moore situation.
	We're not there yet.
	We've got some other stuff to do first.
	I'm just going to say that everything they're doing, they're just sidetracking themselves.
	I think they're going to be a big flop in 2018 if they can't come up with something other than just slut-shaming Trump.
	I don't see anything else on the horizon.
	It's all I see they got, really.
	So I don't think they have anything else.
	It's pathetic.
	I do have a couple clips and a couple other people who have been caught up in the web of hashtag MeToo.
	This is from CNBC. Here's what's happening at this hour, everyone.
	New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, I should say, calling on President Trump to resign.
	This is three women spoke out against him, accusing him of varying degrees of inappropriate behavior.
	One was asked if she was considering a lawsuit.
	I mean, what am I going to sue him for, being really creepy?
	That's not something that would stand up in court.
	But what I'm more concerned about is as a culture in our country, what is acceptable behavior?
	And if the standard that our president is setting, it's not high enough right now.
	I'm going to say again.
	That the standard of our community, of our, what word did she use?
	Our culture, what we are in the United States of Gitmo Nation.
	Yeah, acceptable behavior.
	Turn on television.
	Go look at a magazine.
	Go look at a movie.
	Go listen to one of the Democrats' podcasts.
	And tell me that it isn't coming...
	You know, it's everywhere.
	We are a highly hyper-sexualized society.
	Yeah, thank you, Hollywood.
	Certainly the United States, highly sexualized.
	Now, let me give you a couple other...
	A rundown of some names and what's been happening, in case you haven't kept up.
	Morgan Spurlock did something very interesting.
	You know who that guy is?
	I've heard of him.
	Yeah, he's the documentarian...
	He did Supersize Me.
	So he came out with this huge letter and he said, oh, I'm part of the problem and here's what I've done.
	He said, I used to call my assistant hot pants in the office.
	And he also went into, I think it's actually very interesting what he did.
	He went into something where he was with a woman, and they were drinking, and then they were naked, and then they were having sex.
	She said he didn't want to have sex, and then they stopped, and then she sued him for rape.
	Or said, if you don't pay me ten grand, I'm going to sue you for rape.
	Something like that.
	So he's taken a very interesting tact by coming out and saying, oh, I'm bad.
	And I think you won't hear anything about him.
	We'll see.
	Then the New York Times, Salma Hayek.
	Oh, my God.
	If you haven't read that article, her about Harvey Weinstein, this guy is an a-hole.
	Yeah, he's the perfect example that we can now compare Trump to.
	Here's the stuff that he was asking for.
	Actually, she says, I'll just read a little bit from the article.
	Little did I know, it would become my turn to say no.
	No to opening the door to him in all hours of the night, hotel after hotel, location after location, where he would show up unexpectedly, including one location where I was going to do a movie he wasn't even involved with.
	No to me taking a shower with him.
	No to letting him watch me take a shower.
	No to letting him give me a massage.
	No to letting a naked friend of his give me a massage.
	No to letting me give him oral sex.
	No to me getting naked with another woman.
	No, no, no.
	And with every refusal came Harvey's Machiavellian rage.
	And at one point he said, I could kill you.
	You know that, don't you?
	I mean, this guy is an asshole.
	I mean, that's really, really, really...
	He's like an insurance salesman.
	Then, one of the judges who struck down the immigration travel ban was busted in some sleazy sexual scandal.
	CAA agent, that's Creative Artist Agency, accused of offering sex in exchange for access to directors and a Hollywood star.
	Oh, surprise, surprise.
	Veteran anchor Steve Edwards, Good Day LA, out.
	CNN contributing host Ryan Lizza, fired from New Yorker.
	David Korn got busted.
	Yes!
	Oh, you know what I have?
	What am I thinking here?
	Hold on.
	I have the...
	I don't want to get it here.
	Very fortunate.
	I have the spreadsheet.
	The shitty media men's spreadsheet.
	I think we need to review this.
	I think you should read off the list.
	Okay.
	Well, this is very interesting.
	This list has...
	It's a spreadsheet.
	So the fields are last name, first name, affiliation, alleged misconduct, and then notes.
	No email address?
	No.
	Well, you can get some of that.
	And then there's highlights.
	Men accused of physical sexual violence by multiple women are highlighted in red.
	I do not know all these names, so we'll see.
	Jeremy Kessler of Columbia Law.
	Alleged misconduct, hitting women, secretly removing condom during sex.
	Oh, that's a felony in some states.
	It should be.
	No, it is.
	It's not it should be.
	It is.
	It should be in all states.
	Lauren Stein from the Paris Review alleged assault, workplace harassment, non-consensual anal quid pro quo offers at FSG. I don't know what FSG is.
	What's this non-consensual anal?
	Dude, get a clue.
	Okay, Christian Lorenzen, New Republic, New York Magazine.
	You know any of these people?
	You ever hear of this guy?
	No.
	They keep reading names.
	Well, let me just do the ones in red.
	I think it's a little more funny.
	Michael Hafford, freelancer.
	Accused of hitting and punching women, non-consensually choking a woman until she lost consciousness, forced drug use, non-consensual, non-condom use, inappropriate communication.
	Jeez.
	Uh-huh.
	Sasha Frere Jones, freelancer, formerly LA Times New Yorker, workplace harassment, domestic assault, creepy DMs, especially when drunk.
	Uh-huh.
	Okay, we have Stephen or Stephen Elliott, a freelance writer and novelist accused of rape, sexual harassment, coercion, unsolicited invitations to his apartment.
	A dude who snuck into binders.
	Hold on a second.
	Yeah, I know.
	That's nuts.
	I agree.
	Unsolicited invitations.
	Hey, would you like to come over?
	You didn't ask my permission to ask me that.
	Well, that was also like one of the women in the, one of the Trump accusers who said, he kissed us all without asking permission.
	I mean, I think what happened is, hey girls, mwah, hey girls, mwah, hey girls, mwah, you know, it's like when you come in, it's like, this is not, I don't think you need permission, or, I mean, maybe you do, I don't know.
	Some parts of the world, like Brazil, you have to get two kisses on the cheek or you can't do anything.
	The Netherlands, three, three kisses.
	Yeah.
	Do you have to ask permission?
	No.
	Hey, may I give you the normal three kisses?
	I don't know what two.
	Cal Morgan of Riverhead Books.
	He's accused of weird lunch dates that aren't about work.
	I mean, please.
	Oh, brother.
	That's in red?
	No, that's not in red.
	I just had...
	Okay.
	Mauro Javier Cardenas.
	He's a novelist.
	Rape accusations, sexual harassment attempts to harass and intimidate women into recanting accusations.
	Let me see.
	What else?
	There's a lot here.
	I just want to get...
	Make sure you send me that.
	I never could find a copy.
	Emmett Renzen.
	I don't know where he's from, so I'm not going to skip him.
	Thomas Rios.
	Of vice sports?
	Unconsensual sex acts?
	Physical intimidation with weapon?
	Inappropriate physical digital contact with young writers he reaches out to for mentorship?
	What?
	Yeah, he's trying to pick up young girls, I guess, is the idea.
	Let's see.
	Glenn Fleischman, tech journalist of Fast Company.
	Do you know him?
	Oh, yeah.
	Everyone knows Glenn.
	He is not in red, but here's the accusation.
	Leading with open marriage and unsolicited emails slash self-introduction to young women writers.
	Oh, God.
	Hey, baby.
	I'm in an open marriage.
	Pfft.
	He got on the list for that.
	Does that work?
	That's what I wonder about half of these things.
	Does this work?
	Jimmy Soni from HuffPo.
	Sexual harassment.
	Greg Howard of the New York Times.
	And Deadspin.
	Sexual assault and harassment.
	Inappropriate conversation.
	Groping.
	Not taking no for an answer.
	Inappropriate conversation.
	I know.
	Now you get on a list for that.
	Mark DeSilva, the Harper's Review.
	How about inappropriate podcasting?
	Anybody got that nailed?
	We're the top of that list.
	Luke Dempsey, HarperCollins, sexual harassment, workplace harassment, inappropriate communication.
	Nate Erickson of Esquire GQ, sexual assault.
	Sam Biddle.
	There's a name I recognize.
	Oh yeah, Biddle used to be with Gawker.
	Yeah, and The Intercept.
	Inappropriate communication, harassment, inappropriate digital contact.
	I like that.
	What does that mean?
	I'm writing it down.
	If it was digital, like your fingers being digital, and then you're sticking them someplace, they shouldn't go.
	But I don't think that's what it means.
	Well, it could be.
	No.
	I don't think it's what that means.
	It means digital.
	It means somebody...
	PM'd or sent a tweet.
	Right, right, right.
	Yeah.
	Inappropriate digital contact, sexual assault, and followed someone into a bathroom, tried to masturbate in front of them.
	That's one of those guys.
	He's one of those jerkers.
	Let's just back up, because I've had some meetings with Biddle, or at least just email exchanges.
	Did he try to masturbate?
	Did you have inappropriate digital contact?
	No.
	The thing is, is he is one of the most hard-ass...
	Of the guys that worked at Gawker and that Silicon Valley version, whatever it was called.
	Valleywag.
	Ah, Valleywag.
	He was after everybody.
	I can see a lot of people hating him and just making stuff up about him.
	Sure, sure.
	I'll defend him.
	It doesn't make sense to me.
	I won't defend any of these guys.
	I have no idea.
	Sean Quinn, 538.
	Isn't that the statistics outfit?
	I don't know.
	Maybe.
	Inappropriate overtly sexual emails.
	Revenge porn.
	Stalking.
	Revenge porn is bad.
	Yes.
	Go on.
	Jeb Lund, former Guardian, Rolling Stone magazine.
	Verbal intimidation of female colleagues.
	Creepy DMs.
	Encourages other men to have sex.
	I'd like to know what a creepy DM is.
	I can only imagine.
	So creepy DMs encourages other men to have sex with blacked out women because, quote, that's what they're there for.
	That's sick.
	No shit.
	Abe Reisman, New York Magazine, gave woman a black eye.
	A DM Harriser, emotionally abusive, loses his shit at women in a public fashion.
	Really?
	Okay, well when you're done with this, I have two clips to play.
	We're almost there.
	I want you to keep that clip, that little guy in mind.
	Okay.
	I lost my place.
	Here we go.
	Then we have Ryan Lizza.
	This is the guy who just got fired from New Yorker.
	He's accused of creepy DMs.
	Jeez.
	Let me see.
	Peter Grant.
	Well, this is like the people who used to start blogs and talk about their boss, and people, you know, they don't understand that once you do something on the internet, it's there for good.
	Well, listen to this.
	From Mother Jones, David Korn, sexual harassment.
	From Mother Jones, Ben Dreyfus, harassment, abusive language, threatening to ruin the careers slash reputations of younger women.
	That's not exactly sexual in nature, but it's dickish.
	It's dickish.
	Then from BuzzFeed, Joe Bernstein, inappropriate conversations, comments to young staffers and interns, inappropriate.
	This would include telling a dirty joke.
	Yeah, it could be.
	And what bothers me about that, as someone who tells dirty jokes, but generally speaking, I always check.
	I do check.
	But some of these, there are women who say, oh yeah, no, no, no, no, don't pay, I'm one of the guys.
	Yeah.
	And then you tell the dirty joke and the next thing you know you're on the list.
	Zay Frank.
	You remember Zay?
	Zay Frank?
	No, I don't remember Zay.
	Yes.
	He was the first guy who did a YouTube, like, you know, a daily YouTube thing that was cut up and we talked really fast.
	Oh, okay.
	You know Zay Frank.
	You do.
	I do?
	Okay, I do.
	Okay.
	Violent language, bullying, verbal, emotional abuse, idea theft, especially from women.
	Oh, please.
	This is great.
	This is great.
	Somebody really had a grudge who put this list together.
	A lot of people had a grudge.
	Well, before you go on, let's do something that never gets discussed, is why do some people get a pass?
	And some people that are really bad get a pass.
	And I will include, how come no one talks about, because he just got a new movie, Johnny Depp, who beats women.
	No, that's okay.
	No problem.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Let's listen to Alec Baldwin praise on ABC.
	He's a good guy.
	Another great guy.
	Alec Baldwin returning to sitcom television in the best part right here at ABC.
	Pretty excited about this.
	Variety is reporting that ABC is developing a new comedy series co-created.
	An executive produced by Black-ish creator Kenya Barris and Baldwin, who was so excellent on 30 Rock on NBC.
	This time around, he'll play an opinionated, fading TV star who moves in with his progressive daughter and her girlfriend.
	The currently unnamed series is set to premiere right here next season on ABC. Baldwin, who's a known jerk, why does he get such a pass?
	And he gets a huge pass.
	And let's play to remind people, this is Alec Baldwin talking to his 11-year-old daughter and left a message on her phone.
	Okay?
	And I want to leave a message for you right now.
	Because again, it's 10.30 here in New York on a Wednesday.
	And once again, I've made an ass of myself trying to get to a phone to call you at a specific time.
	When the time comes for me to make the phone call, I stop whatever I'm doing, and I go when I make that phone call at 11 o'clock in the morning in New York, and if you don't pick up the phone at 10 o'clock at night, and you don't even have that goddamn phone turned on, I want you to know something, okay?
	I'm tired of playing this game with you.
	I'm leaving this message with you to tell you, you have insulted me for the last time.
	You have insulted me.
	You don't have the brains or the decency.
	As a human being, I don't give a damn that you're 12 years old or 11 years old or that you're a child or that your mother is a thoughtless pain in the ass who doesn't care about what you do as far as I'm concerned.
	You know what's sad, though?
	He's mad at his ex and he's yelling at the kid.
	It's, you know, it's transference in an odd way.
	Yeah, well, it's actually more pathetic when he doesn't know her age.
	Yeah, but that sucks.
	Well, I don't want to play the whole thing because it's horrible audio.
	I think people remember it.
	He calls her a pig, a dirty little pig, and he goes on and on and on.
	Why does this guy, and I'll put Johnny Depp in the same camp, why do they get a pass?
	Well, you named a number of journalists whose only sin was to have a lewd direct message or an inappropriate direct message.
	It's not even something they did physically.
	Why do these guys get a pass?
	Interesting you bring that up.
	From the face bag, I won't play the jingle because it's not necessarily a voice I want to use right now, This is a friend of mine who works at Saturday Night Live.
	I worked with this person, her, for many, many years at MTV. Then she posted about Al Franken, because of course, she worked with Al Franken as well.
	or maybe just a little bit, because I think, I'm not sure when he left, but...
	The Al Franken situation is heartbreaking.
	I haven't written on this because Al is someone I've known personally since 1981 and truly admire and respect.
	I would even call him a friend, though I was closer with his dearly missed ex-comedy partner, Tom Davis.
	As many have said, the Al that we saw at SNL was incredibly respectful of mostly everyone.
	I like that, mostly.
	And in regards to his relationship with women, I will always remember the times that he insisted on women writers be present when auditions were held for films that parodied models or beach bunnies or whatever to keep sexual tension out of the room.
	And as with many grown men who have continued to find college frat boy humor funny, many in their 60s still love fart jokes, others gross sexual situations often acting like cavemen, Al did have a bit of that in him.
	Uh-huh.
	That's enough these days, I might want to add.
	Anyway, I do find this behavior that has led to the current situation really ugly and fucked up, if indeed it is true.
	There would be no excuse and some sort of action to be taken, again, only if it's accurate.
	But here goes.
	If this had been happening during a different type of administration, like our also dearly missed Barack Obama, whose people had integrity, good intentions, views that showed they were real human beings, and one that made us feel safe and that we were led by people that had our well-being at heart, I might have thought that maybe Al should resign.
	Maybe.
	But in a time where someone as obviously unqualified like Betsy DeVos gets approved and what is happening with immigration, taxes, our national landscapes and parks, and an administration full of sexual predators and countless other things, we need people like Al Franken to stay in the Senate.
	He's fighting the good fight, and on our side.
	You know which side that is.
	Sorry, but there must be other ways to deal with this alleged awful personal behavior.
	Treatment?
	Which would not help Weinstein and Spacey whose acts are unspeakable and evil on a whole other level.
	That would actually help.
	Have the victims who were affected by this confront him directly in meetings.
	Oh, let's have a meeting.
	Maybe they were...
	Maybe there will be some healing there, or the hell with it.
	Bring back flogging and lash the fucker.
	The philosophy of let's take our licks and let a new breed come forth is naive horseshit.
	If y'all think I'm wrong, I'll take this down, but as of this moment, as Stan Laurel says, that's my story, I'm sticking to it.
	Is just seeing one of the great people I've been lucky enough to know get unfairly taken down like this without even a hearing is shattering.
	Double standard much?
	Sounds like it to me.
	But here's the kicker.
	Steve Pachanik, the psychological warfare expert who has worked for many presidents and many agencies and military, he posted one of his videos.
	And by the way, we have an interview with him for our Christmas show, which I did, which I think you'll like.
	Well, listen to it, and then you can understand what he's saying.
	Just some background.
	Currently, he's fighting, what is it called?
	It's a water company, Mosaic Mining, I think, in Florida.
	Because they have all the water rights, and they're diverting water away from certain parts of Florida, and he hates him.
	He hates him, he hates him, he hates him.
	And it's in this context that he makes an interesting admission.
	Senator Al Franken from Minnesota had to resign.
	The reason?
	Sexual harassment.
	The real reason?
	It's simply that I had put a psychological profile on him knowing fully well that he had had a history of sexual harassment.
	Now, how do I know that?
	It's not relevant.
	In my business of psychological profiling and psychological warfare, I know a lot about many individuals, particularly those who are in the Senate, who are in government, and who are high up in the private industry.
	The point of fact here was that I had requested Al Franken and his superior, Amy Klubacher, Senator from Minnesota, to really intervene on behalf of the honest citizens of Central Florida, So that they would stop the horrendous terrorist activities of mosaic mines that came out of Plymouth, Minnesota.
	Al Franken didn't respond to that request.
	I wrote blogs about it, I implored them, and nothing was done.
	In turn, I decided that I would start a psychological warfare against Al Franken.
	Now, that is not a direct hit.
	It's what we call in the business a side pocket shot.
	There was evidence to suggest that Al Franken had a history of sexual harassment, but it's not an accident that the two major evidences that came out came out from two different tours that he made in the USO during his tour in the Middle East.
	Remember, Pachenik is very tight with military intelligence.
	One was in 2001, 2003, and then 2006.
	So I leave that Supposition and target of opportunity for you to think about and for Al Franken to think about.
	That's interesting.
	He's kind of claiming that he...
	Yeah, he's claiming the responsibility for getting rid of the guy.
	I like...
	It's pretty brazen.
	I don't know.
	It doesn't sound like somebody who actually has those abilities would actually brag about.
	Well, he's very angry about this water thing, but I don't understand why it would be Franken, but...
	Well, he saw Frank, and I'm surprised if you're going to go after somebody, go after Amy Klobuchar.
	Right, you want to go after that, exactly.
	But...
	It's because he didn't get any response, because the company's a Plymouth, Minnesota-based company.
	Ah, there you go.
	That was the reason.
	I didn't get it.
	Okay, that's why.
	Anyway, it's an interesting video.
	You see in the show notes, he goes on and on.
	Then, this stunning allegation from Eddie Fisher's ex-wife.
	I don't think anyone but you and I remember Eddie Fisher.
	I remember Eddie Fisher, and he was married to a number of women, which one are we talking about?
	He was also married to Debbie Reynolds.
	Yeah, you know, it's not Debbie Reynolds, obviously.
	The hot one.
	I forget her name.
	Well, listen to her story, and it's dramatized.
	Hi, I'm Travis.
	Damn it, I gave away my next clip.
	Larry King is a groper.
	He grope me twice.
	They were the moments 63-year-old Terry Richards says she will never forget.
	I was doing a story for the Tolucan Times.
	It was the baseball RBI Hall of Fame dinner.
	And Larry was there.
	And Larry saw me.
	And my photographer tried to bunch us together.
	And Larry had his hand on the middle of my back.
	And as the photographer said, look this way.
	He took his hand and he slid it all the way down into the crack of my ass.
	He just stuck it.
	I don't know how he got it in there, but he did it.
	I don't know how he got it in there, but somehow, Larry King's a genius.
	He got it all the way.
	He takes a lot of experience.
	He got it all the way in the crack of my ass.
	I froze and I yelped out.
	My reaction was to slap him in his face, but he was the guest speaker.
	It was awful.
	What really got me was, I'm a wife, my child was at the event, I'm working, and I was over 50.
	So there's no age limit.
	There's no age limit.
	That's right.
	Larry King, the groper.
	Slipping it in the ass crack.
	Nice, King.
	Very nice.
	Bad news, though, for Kentucky State.
	I guess he gets a pass.
	Does he get a pass?
	Of course he gets a pass.
	He gets a pass.
	I'd like to know why these guys get a pass and other guys don't get a pass.
	What is the what is the line of demarcation?
	We can't say it's because it's just Republicans, because most of the people that are busted, including Al Franken and this are Democrats.
	In fact, it wasn't until recently to the tide turned and we started to have a balance of Republicans and Democrats.
	So why do these guys get a pass?
	I'm not sure.
	I'm not sure.
	This guy didn't give himself a pass.
	Sad story, but, you know, it's the breaks.
	The WDRB News Alert.
	Kentucky State Representative Dan Johnson has reportedly committed suicide.
	This comes just one day after he denied accusations of child molestation.
	We have crews across the area tonight as the story is still developing.
	This bridge behind me is where investigators say Representative Dan Johnson appears to have committed suicide tonight.
	This comes just one day after Johnson denied allegations of sexual molestation.
	Bullitt County Sheriff Donnie Tennell says Johnson shot himself on the bridge once under his chin.
	This happened in Mount Washington in a rural area off Grinnell Ford Road.
	Investigators say Johnson drove his SUV, a Ford Escape, over the bridge, pulled over, stood in front of the SUV and shot himself one time.
	A deputy tells us someone saw Johnson's post on social media and called 911.
	Law enforcement then pinged his phone, which led them to this general area.
	They discovered his body.
	I thought that was interesting.
	They pinged his phone?
	Is it that easy, huh?
	To ping someone's phone and find their location.
	It's just a throwaway line in the report.
	I think it is.
	Noticeable.
	Posted on social media and called 911.
	Law enforcement then pinged his phone, which led them to this general area.
	They discovered his body near the bridge on the bank of the Salt River.
	Adrian, Representative Dan Johnson denied the accusations yesterday right here at his church.
	On Monday, the chairman of the Republican Party of Kentucky called on Representative Dan Johnson to resign.
	It came after a report emerged accusing him of sexually molesting a 17-year-old girl in a church basement in 2012.
	Just yesterday, Johnson responded to those claims at the Heart of Fire Church, where he was a pastor.
	This allegation concerning this...
	This lady, this young girl, absolutely has no merit.
	I'm not standing here today to step down or resign or do anything like that.
	There's a lot of people that are willing to jump to judgment without any proof.
	Yeah, and then he went and killed himself.
	Sad.
	But, you know, it's like he molested a girl in the basement of the church.
	Well, that was kind of...
	The joke is...
	The age of consent in Kentucky is 16.
	Is it still 16?
	Well, let me look.
	The age of consent for sexual intercourse depends on the victim's age.
	The general age of consent is 16.
	But maybe 18 years for other circumstances.
	So it's possible that they do have some of these age things.
	You can have sex at 16 if you're having sex with them at 17.
	Sounds like it might not have been consensual.
	But still...
	It sounds like, when I first started hearing the report, I thought he was a pedophile, and by that I don't mean a 17-year-old.
	Oh yeah, no, I understand.
	This word is bandied about so easily.
	I've heard people say on television, on the telescreen, you know, admitted pedophile.
	You know, about Roy Moore as an example.
	It's not exactly how that goes.
	But the worst one of the Me Too movement, another blow for the public broadcasting system, the propaganda broadcasting system, after Charlie Rose, we take down a staple of public broadcasting, Tavis Smiley.
	What?
	Yeah.
	I didn't hear this one.
	Show suspended.
	Fired.
	I'm a fan of Tavis Smiley.
	Let me give a little background on that.
	Tavis Smiley, I never liked him.
	I never liked his interviewing style.
	I always found his voice to be peculiar.
	Yeah.
	But over the years, I have watched his show.
	He is a really outstanding interviewer, and his show is great.
	So I would watch his show.
	He'd have unusual people to interview.
	It was very interesting.
	He seemed like a really good guy.
	And he, I should mention this, because we're talking about who gets a pass and who doesn't.
	You have to remember that he was with Coronel West, the black professor, and they were on the rampage against Obama.
	Yep.
	So no pass.
	No pass for him.
	No pass for him.
	But when you hear his side of the story, it's even more crazy.
	So the headline is, Tavis Smiley talk show host suspended after PBS investigation into sexual misconduct claims against the host.
	And he posted this on the Facebag.
	Hi, I'm Tavis.
	I was as shocked as you were to hear of PBS's sudden announcement regarding my television program.
	Let me say at the outset that I have the utmost respect for all women.
	And I certainly celebrate the courage of those women who've come forth of late to share their own truth.
	But let me also assure you, That I have never groped, inappropriately exposed myself.
	or coerced any colleague in the workplace ever in my 30-year career.
	PBS launched this so-called investigation of me without ever even telling me about it.
	I only learned of this investigation because former colleagues, former staffers started to call me to tell me they were getting a phone call from some PBS investigator asking, number one, did Tavis ever make you feel uncomfortable in the workplace?
	And number two, can you give us other persons to call?
	Only after threatening a lawsuit Did PBS investigators agree to sit down and talk to me for three hours?
	And even then, their minds must have been made up, because almost immediately after that session ended, this story broke in variety.
	PBS investigators refused to look at any of my documentation, refused to talk to any of my current staffers, refused to give me the names of any of my accusers, and refused to give me any semblance of due process.
	It is clear that this has gone too far, and I, for one, intend to fight back.
	PBS overreacted, and they launched a sloppy investigation.
	It's time for a real conversation in this country about where the lines are, about how men and women can engage each other in the workplace, and I look forward to actively participating in that conversation.
	You know what this all means?
	Big-time lawsuit.
	This is a slander suit.
	This is slander plus an unlawful termination.
	He is going to make a fortune off of PBS. And by the way, for you out there donating to PBS, stop.
	Stop.
	Stop.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know, the whole idea of due process, you know, knowing who your accuser is, all this anonymous stuff, it just doesn't cut it for me.
	But I can't even go to Nashville.
	I personally cannot go to Nashville anymore.
	Okay.
	Certainly not Tennessee State University.
	They have a new rule in their policy.
	Their school policy.
	Close.
	Close.
	Whistling in a suggestive manner may qualify as sexual harassment and can get students expelled or employees fired.
	Those caught making suggestive or insulting sounds or making suggestive or obscene gestures also face similar consequences.
	As well as students or staff who joke about sex on campus.
	Joking about sex on campus can get you expelled.
	Joking about that rule could get you.
	I'm already expelled.
	What lame school is this?
	Tennessee State University.
	I can see the spreading, though.
	I can see that spreading.
	Tennessee State, as far as I know, known for incest.
	Hello, Tennessee.
	John at Dvorak.org would be the email.
	I'm just calling the school out, not the state.
	Someone launched this at me.
	I thought it was interesting.
	Because I was watching the signing of the NDAA, the National Defense Authorization Act, still combing through it.
	Then I hope to get the tax bill today or tomorrow or whenever so I can actually tell you what I think is in it or what it says.
	But when you see Pence behind Trump, you just got to wonder, what's going on in that guy's mind?
	And his eyes are kind of like little slitty slits, and he's kind of just looking off.
	He's always looking around.
	And someone said, what if Pence, maybe, you know, Pence has quite a team.
	He's already registered to run for president, I think, hasn't he?
	I don't know.
	Could be.
	But it makes sense.
	And he specifically is very adamant about not being in a room with another woman without his wife present.
	Yeah, he's really adamant about that.
	Maybe this is his long game.
	This would be a great long game.
	I mean, it's also possible, we don't know any of this, But it's also possible, we just look at possibilities, that Trump had told Pence he's only going to be in for one term because he's going to be too old to keep going on this stupid job, and I think that's what he thinks of it.
	And Pence should groom himself to run against, you know, Gillibrand will be one of the competitors.
	I have some information about that.
	She's being promoted as a presidential candidate in a number of different venues.
	She has a...
	Well, all you have to do is read the latest article on her in Vogue magazine, which I was reading a part of before the show.
	And from your personal copy?
	I printed it out.
	And Vogue magazine, you know, it has a...
	It has a target audience, let's put it that way, that is very susceptible of this sort of thing.
	Let me read from that.
	Well, especially when Vogue had that entire pictorial of teenage girls, 13-year-old girls, dressed up as sluts.
	Do you remember that?
	I haven't forgotten that.
	Bing it, ladies and gentlemen.
	Bing it.
	Bing it.
	And you can see this.
	It was really, really disturbing.
	But yeah, okay, so Vogue magazine.
	Yeah, they are on top of the morality tree.
	Yeah, and you know, what's her name, the president of Planned Parenthood, what's her name, the good-looking woman who's mean.
	President of Planned Parenthood, she says she came and spoke to our national convention this year and she just got people on their feet.
	She's talking about Gillibrand.
	She has a personality and a drive that people relate to.
	People outside New York.
	And to me, that's exciting.
	Can she imagine Gillibrand running for president?
	Quote, I can imagine Gillibrand Kirsten doing anything she puts her mind to.
	And throughout this article, the writer is asking people whether she'd be a good president or should she run in 2020.
	And I think she's one of the women that are going to run in 2020.
	And I also see, if you read Gillibrand's bio in the Wikipedia, she also played dirty when she ran for Congress to the point where the wife of the guy she beat in a Republican district, Said it was the filthiest thing she's ever seen.
	She was completely discouraged by what a nasty woman this Gillibrand is, even though she seems so sweet.
	She's a Hillary protege.
	In fact, the Vogue magazine article written about her again seven years earlier by the same writer, I think the title of that is called Hillary's protege, something like that.
	She's in the pocket.
	And I think that there is a, I think there's in the Democratic Party, I think there is a split between the Clinton faction and the Obama faction, which represents the Kennedy faction.
	I think the Kennedy faction and the Obama faction are on one side of the aisle, and I think the Clinton faction is on the other, within the party.
	And I think that Kamala Harris, or Kamala, or whatever you want to call her.
	Kamala Tope?
	You'd be fired for that.
	Kamala Harris is going to be representing the other side of this argument.
	She's going to run for president, and she's the black woman.
	And Kirsten and whoever else thinks they're going to run, I think Cory Booker, who I believe is probably, even though he's black, is probably on the Clinton side of the equation.
	It's going to be more interesting this next, in 2020, But whether Trump runs in 2020, and I think he might if people like Kirsten run, because I think he just likes to ridicule people like that.
	It's just interesting.
	It's going to be a very interesting lead-in.
	And this concludes your sexual harassment update.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C, where the C stands for crack of her ass, Dvorak.
	And in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all ships and sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, all the dames and knights out there.
	And in the morning to the troll room, noagendastream.com.
	Nice to have everybody on board.
	Just stop telling me to invest in cryptocurrencies, please.
	It's not helpful for the show.
	And in the morning, Mike Riley brought us the artwork for episode 9 or 8, 9, titled That's Stick Control.
	Stick Controls.
	He gave us the artwork Friend of Pecker.
	It was the National Enquirer mock-up with Trump and Weinstein.
	And we used it even though we really typically discourage the use of an episode number because it had the episode number in the artwork.
	Yes, we don't like that because sometimes the artwork can be used.
	I mean, we have a lot of artwork that's backed up.
	And sometimes it might be useful in another future show or in a newsletter, excuse me, or in a lot of different venues.
	But you're limited to one shot.
	Right.
	Don't like it.
	But we do have a few people to thank who we do like.
	James Lawler's top of the list, and this is a very strange list, because we have James Lawler at 333.33, and then Michael Zimmerman at 333.33, and then 333.00, and then 300.
	It's just very unusual.
	There's no variety here of donation numbers.
	Yeah, was there a call-out for 333 for some reason?
	No, none whatsoever.
	Interesting.
	Zip.
	Zip.
	So this is one of those strange random number deals.
	Anyway, James Lawler, 33333.
	Hey, John and Adam.
	Jimmy James here.
	Keep on podcasting.
	Hopefully this helps.
	Jobs karma I need, but I want to give it to others instead.
	Stay excellent to each other, especially you, John.
	But your highly analytical mind may not allow you to do that all the time.
	Seriously, though, we all need this podcast for our mental hygiene.
	Give to no agenda today, slave.
	Come on now.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	By the way, I forgot to mention noagendaartgenerator.com is where we like to have you upload the artwork.
	All right.
	Thank you very much, Jimmy James.
	NJNK, I guess.
	No, he wants a jobs karma, he said.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Yes, I see it now.
	Jobs karma.
	Jobs.
	Jobs.
	And jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Michael Zimmerman follows with 333.33 exactly the same.
	ITM John and Adam, I decided I could not enter another year of life as a douchebag.
	Oh, 14.
	Yeah, he's on the list.
	He's on the list, yeah.
	And my colleague at Infowars, Sir DeWoffer Knight of the Four Strings, Funk, Four Kids, and Time Travel, called me out in episode 976.
	Ruh-roh.
	I humbly asked for a dedouching, WTC7. Won't go away.
	My millennial stay woke and some goat karma.
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	I just heard in the troll room that when you click on the donate button from Dvorak.org slash NA, it automatically enters 333 as a number, apparently.
	Did you know this?
	No.
	Oh, you should go check it.
	People are just willy-nilly just clicking and paying.
	Well, that...
	I'm not going to change it.
	You've been de-douched.
	Hey, where is it?
	My millennials!
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	Why didn't this one go away?
	WTC7 won't go away!
	You've got...
	Karma.
	Gene Witch in Otis, Louisiana.
	333.
	Please tell Adam to fix the clips for the last few shows, especially Fruit Machine.
	He knows who I am.
	Signed, Gene Witch.
	P.S. I love this show, and I'm sorry for this first monetary donation I have made.
	N-K-N-J, but you can de-douche me if you want.
	I think he's always in the troll room.
	Yeah, there's a new setup, so yeah.
	I'm going to fix everything for you.
	No problem, man, but thank you very much.
	You've been de-douched.
	I appreciate it.
	Following suit with the random number theory, Chris Johnson with 333.00.
	Hoping to break a recent run of bad luck with a long overdue de-douching, coincidentally.
	Can you give me some karma, please?
	You've been de-douched.
	You've got karma.
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	There's old, our buddy Anonymous, $300.
	Merry Christmas.
	Thanks for the great show.
	Keep it going!
	Can I have a jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs karma, please?
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Then from Sammamish.
	Sammamish.
	Now we're down to associate executive producer here.
	Yes, and this is Laura Wilson at $200.
	The exact same amount as the other associate executive producer.
	Laura Wilson from Sammamish.
	I'm a lurker, and my husband is calling me out.
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	Give them some karma.
	The family that listens together loves together.
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	This actually fakes the question on this donation.
	Was Jackie the one who got Troy to listen?
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	Because the way it's put together in this little note, you have never missed an episode since we got together three plus years ago.
	Was she listening at the time?
	Yeah.
	That she would know this?
	I think she's the one who got him listening.
	Maybe.
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	Well, you never know.
	Anyway, I want to thank all these folks for contributing to the show 990, 10 away from the show 1000.
	Oh man, you're the big 1000, 1K! Very difficult to do this many shows.
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	Sometime in January that happens.
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	Listen, thank you everybody.
	This was a nice executive producer list and associate executive producers.
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	One of our producers made up business cards.
	He's going to Vegas for...
	What is going on in Vegas?
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	There's always something going.
	CES is coming up.
	And he made business cards with associate executive producer with the episode.
	I think he just said associate executive producer of the No Agenda show, a little logo on it.
	Yeah, it's great.
	He actually said, is it okay if I do this?
	Are you an associate executive producer?
	But make sure you don't use it to try to pick up women in this era.
	Well, if you do, let me...
	Blame the No Agenda show for you!
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	Really appreciate it.
	We'll be thanking more people later on, $50 and above, in our second donation segment.
	And, of course, we have another show coming up on Sunday.
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	Just the news alone was enough to ruin everything.
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	Again, another show Sunday, and please remember us for that show at...
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	I know what you're going to do.
	Kebab is safe.
	Oh.
	Yes.
	How was it unsafe to begin with?
	I still haven't heard that explanation.
	No, I mean, with safe, I mean that the lawmakers voted to block the use of phosphates in frozen kebab meat.
	Why were they being used?
	This was your beat.
	I'm not Mr.
	Chemical.
	I don't know, but I posited at the time that this was a distraction from the Monsanto case.
	Ah, yes, that's right.
	That's what you posited.
	And I think you probably were right.
	Yeah, and they voted 373 to 272, and it's no problem.
	You can continue to use phosphates in your kebab.
	So Britain is saved.
	They are very happy.
	And I am happy, too, about the shawarma.
	Now, before you launch into the Moore-Jones thing, I just wanted to mention, I watched all the channels.
	It was hard to miss because everybody was...
	It's so insane.
	Well, not just giddy, but all the three cable news networks were breaking in, coming back, and we got an update.
	It was going very fast.
	The information was coming in, just lightning speed.
	Very interesting.
	But, you know, there were other things going on in the world.
	I mean, jeez, people.
	It's like that was not the most important thing ever.
	But a couple of points.
	First of all, CNN's magic wall that John King operates, they got to update that.
	It says, powered by Microsoft.
	Hello, 1986.
	Why don't you just put your logo on it, your square colored logo.
	That would be smart.
	No.
	No, they don't do that.
	And I remember that, wasn't John King married to one of the other reporters?
	Sexual harassment.
	Well, he was married to Dana Bash, or was married to Dana Bash.
	And I just wanted to, because I know that we talked about it, and I just wanted to remember exactly what her history was.
	Now, you know who Dana Bash is.
	Yeah, she's the one who looks like she's an alien who just dropped in from a space satellite or a flying saucer.
	So let me give you her career path and you tell me.
	Here we go.
	Without even mentioning a word, I know where you're headed.
	Okay.
	She went to, let me see, George Washington University.
	That's a start.
	Check.
	After college, right away she joined CNN as a producer of their weekend programs such as Late Edition, Evans and Novak, and Inside Politics.
	Later she began producing programming specializing in coverage of the U.S. Senate.
	What do you think?
	What do you think?
	Well, if you're gonna play Spot the Spook, I'm not completely convinced.
	Wait for it.
	Spot the Spook.
	Everybody wants to spot the spook.
	And then, she married Jeremy Bash, where she got her last name, was married to him from 1998 to 2007.
	Who was Jeremy Bash again?
	Uh-oh.
	Oh, yes.
	Former CIA Chief of Staff.
	Nah!
	Ha ha!
	But then she married fellow CNN correspondent John King in 2008, gave birth to a son in June 2011, and then they separated in 2012.
	And they're now working together, although I've noticed there's no tossing back and forth, like, hey Dana, what do you think?
	She goes, thanks John, dick.
	None of that.
	Maybe the kid was a gray.
	I just needed to remind everybody how Operation Mockingbird is still alive and well.
	She's a spook!
	He's a spook.
	He met the spook in the spook yard.
	John King always looked like a spook to me.
	He may be a spook, although he has a very serious journalistic background.
	Actually, I pulled his thing, too.
	I pulled him, yeah.
	I think it was completely incompatible, those two.
	Maybe he found out, like, what?
	You're a spook?
	That could be.
	Some guys don't like being married to a spook.
	85, he joined Associated Press.
	He starred as a writer.
	In 91, he was named Chief Political Correspondent, headed the AP's political coverage.
	Then he won the 91 Top Reporting Prize from AP's Managing Editors Association for his coverage of the Gulf War.
	Here's what happened.
	He was like, you know, he couldn't live with her.
	You walked in as a spook and I had to start as a writer at Associated Press.
	Yeah, she gets right to the top.
	Yeah.
	It's very hard to go from Associated Press into one of the broadcast organizations.
	Anything.
	Anything.
	Any job after that is tough.
	Anyway, I just thought I'd mention that because it just popped to my head and just wanted to make sure everybody remembers where the spooks are.
	Yeah, these places are crawling with these guys and they're very biased and they're giving their marching orders and they do what they're told.
	And they can't talk about it because they've signed these agreements in their lifetime.
	Mm-hmm.
	So they can't mention anything.
	So it's crazy.
	And why we put up with it is beyond me.
	I think nondisclosure agreements should be outlawed.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	All nondisclosures, all including government ones, should all be outlawed.
	Well, Silicon Valley is filled with nondisclosure.
	We know that most of them are already, the courts have already voided.
	And just the callback.
	When are the women of tech going to out some of these a-hole tech reporters?
	Okay?
	I'm just saying it.
	They outed Biddle.
	That's one.
	That's one.
	Yeah, there's some people that I know for a fact that have gone from job to job because they've been fired for sexual harassment.
	And why are the women of technology tech?
	Tech.
	Why are they so...
	What are they afraid of?
	Is it such a great...
	Someone has such power over the technology?
	I don't know.
	But there's a lot of...
	A lot of technology publications.
	You and I know a lot of people there.
	Certainly dudes who are douche dudes.
	Disappointed.
	Yeah, well, they got a pass for some reason.
	Same as Alec Baldwin, Johnny Depp.
	I mean, Alec Baldwin, that is really interesting.
	For the guy who he called a gay guy a fag on the street.
	He's done all kinds.
	He did some race stuff, I think.
	He used the N-word, maybe.
	I'm not sure what the racial thing was, but he did a slur.
	And that crazy recording and the way he treated Kim Basinger, his wife.
	Which, just treating Kim Basinger poorly is egregious in my book any day.
	Well, you don't know she's not nuts.
	Well, you always warn me, don't marry an actress.
	You don't know, but you'd think that you'd be, you know, she has no signs of that.
	She's never flipped out in public or anything.
	She's agoraphobic, which is kind of nutty.
	How do you know this?
	It was a big deal.
	They were talking about it during this era when Alec was having trouble with his 11-year-old.
	They talked about Kim being agoraphobic.
	It could have been a smear.
	What is agoraphobic again?
	That means you can't leave the house.
	Ah.
	You know, people, and there's been movies about it.
	It's always hard to understand.
	But it's the guys who stay here in the house.
	They can't get out.
	They start to go outside.
	Maybe they can get the mail, and they've got to rush back in the house because they don't feel safe in public.
	And it's a real problem.
	All right, so we have this election, this special election, which, interestingly, Europe is all over it.
	I was reading the morning publications in Gitmo Nation Europe, EUs.
	And everyone's like, oh, it's the start of a new world.
	They're like, ah, finally.
	Finally, things are turning around in America.
	Well, there was a couple of anomalies in this thing that I had to look into to find out what really happened.
	None of the networks, and I mean none of them, and even the people who actually gave me the information I needed to figure out what was going on here, The whole thing again, this is again the Democrats spinning their wheels, was about Trump.
	This guy was a bad guy, and if you listen to Amy Goodman, I think I have a couple of clips from her, but I've got to get the right one because I don't want to mix these up.
	This is a slightly twisted analysis maybe?
	Yes, I just want you to hear this.
	Tuesday's vote was highly divided by race and gender, with African-American voters, particularly women, largely responsible for defeating Roy Moore.
	Overall, 96 percent of African-American voters voted for Doug Jones, with a staggering 98 percent of all black women voting for Jones.
	In contrast, nearly 70 percent of white voters voted for Roy Moore.
	A full 63% of white women voted for Moore, despite Moore being accused by multiple women of sexually harassing or assaulting them when they were teenagers, one as young as 14.
	Democratic strategist Simone Sanders, who served as Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders' press secretary during his presidential campaign, said, quote, Black women have been absolutely clear in their support for Democratic policies and Democratic candidates.
	It's high time for Democrats to invest in that effort.
	Okay, so that was kind of her breakdown of what was going on.
	I thought it was loosely explained.
	There was no real reason for a lot of these phenomenons to be taking place.
	And here's the clip I wanted you to play, and I didn't find it, sorry.
	More support from Trump.
	But President Donald Trump, who'd repeatedly endorsed Roy Moore, did acknowledge Moore's defeat, tweeting...
	Okay.
	This is bullcrap.
	Amy Goodman should be ashamed of herself.
	Donald Trump promoted this guy Luther Strange.
	Yeah.
	To beat more.
	Now, I want you to listen to any of the newscasts.
	Nobody mentions this.
	All they do is mention the very end where Trump had, without it, he had no choice.
	These guys are Republican.
	What's he supposed to do?
	I mean, other people didn't vote for him, and they said they were Republicans, but no, no, no.
	It was so poorly explained, Tina and I had to look up the whole history of this special election.
	Didn't even get to Luther Strange's name.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Because no one cares about delivering any information.
	No, so screw Luther Strange.
	Then we just want to hate Trump, hate the president, 2018, 2020.
	Here is the make it time note.
	Yeah, I'm writing it down.
	Yeah.
	You and that voice.
	Well, that's what it sounds like to me.
	Now, I got some tidbits of the election from PBS, and I want you to play this one.
	This is the Moore-Jones PBS tidbits Trump.
	Oh, hold on.
	I had the wrong one queued up.
	Trump.
	Yep.
	We want jobs.
	Jobs.
	Jobs.
	So get out and vote for Roy Moore.
	Jobs.
	Jobs.
	Jobs and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs.
	Jobs.
	It wouldn't stop.
	This was a video clip of Trump supporting Moore.
	He had the most bored look on his face.
	He said support Roy Moore in a downtone.
	Right.
	And he threw his arms out as though, what am I supposed to do?
	I didn't want this guy.
	I wasn't for this guy.
	I was for Luther Strange, anybody but this guy.
	In fact, there was people that wouldn't vote for this guy.
	But meanwhile, the media plays it out.
	Oh, he was a huge fan of this guy, Moore.
	Nobody like Roy Moore was a douchebag.
	He was a Bible-thumping douchebag, period.
	He's always thumping the Bible.
	He wanted no separation of church and state.
	He said all these things.
	And he chased teenagers when he was in his 30s.
	Which may or may not have been okay.
	The point is that he was, for a guy such a religious zealot, you'd think he'd have a little bit more...
	A little integrity.
	Yeah, some.
	And he also looked like a creep.
	He had that look, that southern look of somebody you just won't like.
	But let's play these tidbits.
	This is on PBS. This is Moore Jones.
	Tidbits 1.
	Today, Jones said President Trump reached out to him with a gracious phone call.
	And we talked about finding that common ground to work together, and he invited me over to the White House to visit as soon as I get up there.
	With a surprisingly strong turnout for a special election, voters in one of the most Republican states repudiated the party's nominee, Roy Moore.
	In the closing days, he was dogged by decades-old accusations of sexual misconduct with teenagers.
	Thank you.
	Last night, Moore refused to concede.
	And realized when the vote is this close that it's not over.
	And we've still got to go by the rules about this recount provision.
	But the Alabama Republican Party declared that the race was over.
	This morning, former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee agreed, tweeting, God wasn't registered to vote in Alabama, but the people who voted did speak, and it wasn't close enough for recount.
	So, this guy's also a poor loser.
	This is really a bad guy, in terms of, like, somebody that should be the...
	Let's play a tidbit, too, which is spelled TWP. He had a cute horse, though.
	He had a great looking horse.
	Another crucial factor?
	Write-in votes after Alabama Republican Senator Richard Shelby said he didn't vote for Moore.
	Well, I'd rather see the Republican win, but I hope that Republican would be a write-in.
	I couldn't vote for Roy Moore.
	There were about 23,000 write-in ballots, roughly the same as Jones' margin of victory.
	Yeah, it was interesting that the write-in vote, which was a protest vote by the Republicans who won't vote for a Democrat.
	You're talking, here's what happened politically.
	There was Republicans that won't vote for a Democrat, but they don't mind the Democrat gets in, but they're not going to vote for him.
	Right.
	And so the guy got in largely because of his own write-in campaign.
	But let's listen to Tidbits 3, and then I will explain exactly why Doug Jones won in the first place.
	The African-American community, thank you!
	Woo!
	Jones' improbable victory was fueled by a diverse coalition, including strong support from African-American voters.
	I feel like tonight means that America can be inspired now.
	I feel like for so long for that past 13 months, righteousness seems like it was losing.
	We won today.
	Exit polls show that 96 percent of African-American voters supported Jones.
	They made up 29 percent of the electorate, about the same as turned out for President Barack Obama's 2012 re-election.
	Basketball legend Charles Barkley, an Alabama native, said it was a wake-up call for Democrats.
	It's time for them to get off their ass and start making life better for black folks and people who are poor.
	Alright.
	Now, the thing that got me is it's almost, you know, the way they present this, and I think it's a racist way of doing it, they present as 96, 98% of women in particular of the black community came out, everybody voted, they all came out and voted higher than any normal special election.
	And then the way it's presented as well, it's because blacks are just a bunch of dumb fuck Democrats who always vote for the Democrats.
	Right.
	That's the way it's being presented, the way I see it.
	And they keep harping on this black, all the blacks voted for the guy, and it just is discouraging because, well, I guess blacks can't think for themselves.
	What they don't realize is that there's a history here with Doug Jones, and it's major, major, major for the black community.
	How major is it?
	It's major.
	And...
	The thing is, is that nobody brings this up, and I never heard this until Amy Goodman, who didn't even realize what she was talking, what she was dealing with here, did a little interview with a reporter from Mother Jones, a woman, who explains, And when you hear the story, you're going to hear the black community in this deep south have a long memory.
	And they and I think the white progress.
	That's racist.
	They have a long memory when it comes to something like you're going to hear because they've been putting up with a lot of crap for a long time.
	And, yeah, I guess it's racist.
	But listen to this and you're going to understand why why this Doug Jones guy is not only a superhero, but he could be a presidential candidate.
	And that's why Trump maybe wants to warm up to the guy, because this guy, what he did is beyond compare.
	That's Doug Jones significantly quoting Dr.
	Martin Luther King.
	Explain Doug Jones' history as a prosecutor prosecuting Ku Klux Klan members who were involved with the bombing of the 16th Street Church in Birmingham, Alabama in 1963.
	Of course, the prosecution happened much later than that.
	Yes, it did.
	You know, when that bomb went off in 1963, the situation in Birmingham was that the police were essentially in cahoots with the KKK. And, you know, it was impossible to put on a trial and bring the bombers to justice.
	And so they They were not tried for a long time.
	One of them was put away in the 70s when Alabama elected a progressive attorney general, but that person could not get the support of the FBI to go further.
	And so it was not until the late 90s, when Doug Jones was a federal prosecutor in Birmingham, that they were able to put this together.
	And Jones, you know, I've talked to people who worked with him on this case, who were in his office, and they said, you know, this was a meticulous, dogged, three-year process.
	Jones Did an incredible amount of work.
	It was not guaranteed.
	You know, you have a cold case that's 40 years old.
	That is a remarkable thing to be able to pull off.
	And Jones, you know, by all accounts, was incredibly dedicated to bringing these people to justice and for turning a page in Alabama history.
	And so you, I think, see that again last night in his speech, the idea that, you know, the Alabama that he knows and loves is not the one that we think of when we read about the 1960s and we hear about the bombings.
	And he wants to sort of turn that page.
	And I Wow.
	No, no.
	A ding is not sufficient.
	Clip of the day.
	Jeez.
	You know, all I heard from anybody, if it was about Doug Jones, well, to use this racist poster, this racist ad, that's all I heard.
	Yeah, well, you didn't hear this.
	No, no.
	So he opened up these cases, how, 40 years later?
	Yeah.
	Jeez.
	And found the guys guilty.
	No thanks to the FBI and the corrupt police.
	Huh.
	Yeah, so now I see what you're saying.
	He's a massive candidate.
	But he's not female or black.
	That's a problem.
	Well, he might as well be black.
	He's got the black community behind him big time, and that's the reason.
	It's not because they just vote Democrat.
	Huh.
	That's baffling.
	No, actually, why am I surprised?
	Yes, it's our show.
	Why are you surprised?
	What am I thinking?
	Okay, that's a piece of news I didn't know.
	Well, yeah, that's the guy to vote for.
	Yeah.
	No doubt about it, particularly in the South, particularly if you're black.
	Yeah.
	And have all that history there.
	Jeez, nice.
	Very nice.
	Good wrap-up.
	Even Amy had to keep it on, oh, it's, you know, sexual Trump, you know, the women.
	No, nothing to do with it.
	This makes total sense.
	Yeah, it makes nothing but sense.
	I'd vote for the guy.
	Yeah.
	And you're as Republican as they come.
	I'm not Republican.
	I'm an independent.
	I got my card carrying.
	I got an independent.
	I got a card I can show you.
	I know.
	Show me your card.
	Show me Ausweis.
	Write your papers.
	Show me your papers, man.
	Anyway, so that concludes that whole thing.
	And when I heard that, by the way, I was really irked.
	And I was irked at the media.
	The media has given us none of this background.
	All they did was they're looking for more ways to slam Trump and the Republicans.
	It's pathetic.
	And then they're extrapolating.
	Oh, this is a big turning point for the party.
	The Democrats have got them on the run.
	So they're in for a big shock when, you know, a lot of people, in fact, Schumer came out with some commentary that was like, oh, yeah, let me see if I can find this.
	This is like, I think there's a Schumer clip in here.
	Polar Bear Facebook warning.
	Where are you, Schumer?
	There it is.
	This is the next issue that I want to talk a little bit about, which is the tax bill.
	But you listen to Schumer, and Schumer was just about the tax bill, it's not about this election.
	But these Democrats, I think they're frightened to death because they don't know what's going on.
	They don't know what to do about it.
	They have no topic of conversation.
	They have no Nothing they're promoting that's positive.
	It's all anti-Trump.
	And it's also the anti-tax bill.
	Let's play Schumer.
	I'm going to ask you a question about logic.
	For Christmas.
	And when I say giant, I mean giant.
	Meanwhile, Democrats argue the bill would hurt middle-class families while giving permanent tax breaks to the wealthy.
	Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, referencing last night's Senate election in Alabama, warned Republicans that passing the current tax bill would unleash political backlash in the midterm elections.
	Our hope is that Mitch McConnell will hear what the voters in the suburbs of Alabama said.
	Help us.
	It's our hope that Mitch McConnell will realize proceeding with this tax bill will be a dramatic, dramatic death knell for the Republican Party in 2018.
	All right.
	Now, is he a consultant for the Republicans all of a sudden?
	He should be.
	What does he care?
	Wouldn't he want that?
	Wouldn't he want the Republicans to fall apart in 2018 and lose all their seats?
	Isn't that something logically that he'd desire?
	Yeah.
	Well then why would he say any of this?
	I don't know.
	Because he's full of crap, that's why.
	Well here's Nancy Pelosi with her response to the tax bill.
	At this news conference and on the floor, Democrats talk about this bill often in very apocalyptic terms, but isn't really what's going on is that many people are getting a very modest tax cut and some people are getting a tax increase while a lot of this is also going to business, but it's not the end of the world?
	No, it is the end of the world.
	The debate on health care is life death.
	This is...
	Armageddon.
	This is a very big deal.
	Because you know why?
	There's really a very hard way to come back from this.
	They take us further, more deeply into debt.
	What can you do but raise taxes?
	They contend that their gift to corporate America of a trillion and a half dollars, could be up to a trillion and a half dollars, will be paid for.
	By the growth it creates.
	And even their own people say, nonsense.
	Not true.
	Not true.
	So let's be truthful with the American people about that.
	They throw a few crumbs to the middle class, or they give with one hand, they take away and bounty with the other.
	And why?
	Because it is in their DNA to give tax cuts to the rich.
	That's their purpose in coming to Congress.
	It's in their DNA. It's the only reason they come to Congress.
	Born to cut taxes.
	That's why they're so thrilled with Donald Trump as president because he's a trickle-down guy.
	That's a sexual thing.
	It's a sexual thing.
	Sexual innuendo.
	Yeah, trickle-down.
	I know.
	Dossier, peeing on beds.
	Trump as president because he's a trickle-down guy.
	And this has never paid for itself.
	It's never created.
	I think 23andMe actually has a category when you do your DNA test.
	Oh, trickle down.
	Good jobs.
	And it's always increased the debt.
	Okay.
	Thanks, Nancy.
	If you don't mind, I'd just like to stay with a little bit of Trump hate because I had some funny ones.
	Well, before you do that, I do want to play this tax bill misunderstanding clip since we're on tax bill.
	Okay.
	Good, because I can't wait to read this thing.
	I'm very curious.
	At the White House today, Republicans proclaimed they're on the verge of a big win on tax reform.
	The president with a Christmas promise.
	We want to give you, the American people, a giant tax cut.
	For Christmas.
	And when I say giant, I mean giant.
	But back on the hill, protests.
	Kill this bill!
	Kill this bill!
	Not us!
	Not us!
	Protesters say it will hurt the working and middle class, as lawmakers huddled in the basement of the Capitol to finalize the bill.
	Even top Republican negotiators admit it's not a totally done deal.
	So do you have a deal?
	Well, it's going forward.
	Very positive.
	It feels very close to an agreement.
	Even the president is cautious.
	I mean, we are so close right now.
	So close.
	In fact, almost, I don't want to talk about it.
	Maybe we shouldn't talk about it.
	Tonight, they have agreed to this.
	Helping corporations, it drops the corporate tax rate from 35 to 21 percent.
	Caps the mortgage interest deduction at $750,000, a middle ground between the Senate and House versions.
	Repeals the Obamacare individual mandate that all Americans have insurance, which could leave 13 million more Americans without insurance in the next decade.
	And to help the wealthy, it lowers the top individual tax rate from 39 down to 37 percent.
	How does that help middle class America?
	This bill is going to lower the tax burden on working families, on middle-income families, and it's going to generate tremendous economic growth.
	But what about the deficit?
	It's still unclear how much this will ultimately cost.
	A new analysis predicts it could add more than $1.5 trillion to the nation's debt.
	And a previous analysis of the Senate version said Americans making $75,000 or less will pay more over the next 10 years.
	Democrats insist the long-term benefits will go to the wealthy.
	Most of what's there for the middle class is written in disappearing ink.
	The Republican tax bill is one that Ebenezer Scrooge would love.
	Too bad you fumbled that one, lady.
	Damn it, I missed the punchline.
	Let me say this about that.
	There's a couple of things.
	There's a lot of could do this, could add, could do this.
	There's a lot of that.
	And the other thing is that Democrats keep emphasizing that It will increase your taxes if you make under $75,000 over 10 years, meaning the thing is the disappearing ink reference is that in 2025...
	Is when that provision sunsets.
	Yeah, or 2027, one of the two.
	So it's not going to happen for 10 years at least, is the point.
	Yeah, and then as you know, depending on what the political climate is at the time, it could be continued.
	It could be lowered even more.
	There's a million things that can happen.
	These are two parties that are both, both of them, lying to the public.
	Democrats lying more, I think, more and worse.
	It's just disingenuous.
	Listening to these people, what have they got against this thing?
	Oh, it's going to make the deficit go up more?
	It's already outrageous.
	Let me say this about that.
	So they mention healthcare.
	Well, that's another disingenuous remark, because it's not going to pull the rug out from anybody.
	It's just going to mean that they don't have to join a system.
	I had a little experience with the system yesterday.
	For a number of reasons, I had to get healthcare through the exchange before they close, or the open enrollment period.
	And I'm not sick, so that's not one of the reasons.
	But I had no health insurance.
	In fact, I was kind of a little bit against the whole idea.
	And I paid the fine last year.
	Because I was looking at $1,500 a month because I'm over 55.
	I mean, over 50.
	I'm not 53.
	I feel over 55 today.
	So I had to go through the system and get some coverage.
	And I was just looking for anything that I'll pay my deductibles.
	If I'm half dead, I don't want Tina or my daughter to have to worry about it.
	That's pretty much all I was looking for.
	Because I'm going to get the concierge thing here in Austin where you pay $150 a month.
	You can see your doctor whenever you want.
	It's a great system.
	It's a kind of co-op.
	We've talked about it before.
	So I go to healthcare.gov and I fill out my...
	You've got to fill in a lot of information.
	And before I even get to the plans, I've filled in my phone number and my email address and my zip code.
	I click submit and I haven't even gotten to the different plans and my phone starts ringing.
	I have received over 60 calls since yesterday.
	And they all call from the same area code as my cell phone, and they switch it up, and they'll move to 512 for Texas, and it's all these brokers.
	Before I even got into the system, my information was given to brokers.
	In fact, I'll leave my phone on.
	I'm going to switch it on, because one of them will call.
	It's like, hey, it's Ann.
	I know you're looking for health care.
	I can find something for you in any state.
	And they're texting me.
	It's really invasive.
	And I think it's...
	Wasn't the whole idea that this website, which is having problems again, apparently...
	This is ridiculous if the government website's giving your phone number away.
	Immediately!
	Immediately!
	Yeah, before you're even done with the process.
	Ah, idea.
	Okay.
	Do you have anybody you want to harass?
	Okay.
	Yeah, it's one of those.
	Let me see if I can find one.
	You know, I'll just...
	So, you know, my cell phone, I can tell everybody, it starts with 650 because I got my phone when I was in San Francisco and that's Palo Alto area.
	That's northern...
	It's a Yura, a Yura neck of the woods, kind of.
	So, here's Pescadero, California.
	Let me...
	I'll just play this one for you.
	Let me see.
	How does this...
	Here we go.
	I'll hold it up to the phone.
	Hi, this is Angie.
	I'm calling because it's open enrollment, and that means it's time to get a great health insurance plan at the price you can afford.
	Now, that's a robot.
	Let me see.
	There were a couple of people who called as well.
	But it's, you know, the system just switches.
	You know, just try a different area code.
	Let me see.
	Here's one from Pennsylvania.
	Let's see.
	Uh...
	No, that's not the right one.
	Anyway, you get the idea.
	If one calls now or during the show, I'll answer it.
	And I'll tell them if they don't stop calling, they're going to need some health care.
	Oh, here we go.
	Cleveland, Ohio.
	Cleveland, Ohio.
	Hello?
	Hello, my friend.
	I hear you're feeling ill.
	Is it time to buy some insurance?
	Yeah, I guess so.
	I feel really ill.
	I'm enjoying the show today.
	Talk to you later.
	What the fuck was that?
	I got trolled.
	That has your jumper.
	Whoa!
	You got butt slammed!
	A good one.
	You're dead, man.
	Good one.
	This, of course, is a show day, and it wouldn't be a show day if there wasn't something big going on.
	The FCC just voted to overturn the net neutrality rules.
	And I wanted to play a little game because in a last...
	Yes.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	Aren't those rules the rules that have never actually been put in place?
	Correct.
	That were just proposed?
	Yes.
	So what's changed?
	Nothing.
	We have people, I have somebody writing me, oh, things have changed since these new rules.
	Nothing has been changed.
	Nothing's changing.
	Nothing's changing at all.
	The rules are never implemented.
	They were never implemented.
	These are just bogus rules that weren't ever implemented.
	They're just sitting in limbo.
	Okay.
	So in a last-ditch effort, there was an open letter, a 43- No, it wasn't 43 pages.
	An open letter sent, yeah, it was 43 pages behind the open letter, to Roger Wicker, Brian Schatz, Marsha Blackburn, Michael F. Doyle.
	These are all ranking members.
	And the title is, Internet Pioneers and Leaders Tell the FCC, You Don't Understand How the Internet Works!
	I thought it would be interesting.
	Here's what grabbed me.
	You can look in any press publication.
	Internet pioneers.
	Oh, okay.
	So what exactly is an internet pioneer?
	Are you a pioneer or a poser, I guess, is the game I'd like to play.
	Oh, I can do that.
	Pioneer or poser.
	Here we go.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	These are people who call themselves internet pioneers.
	All right.
	Here we go.
	And it actually says in this document, Stephen M. Bellavin.
	Don't know him.
	FTC chief technologist.
	He calls himself an internet pioneer.
	Tim Berners-Lee.
	I'll give him pioneer.
	He's a pioneer.
	Well, you know, even then it would be questionable because he's not an internet pioneer.
	He's a worldwide web pioneer.
	Well, but he's...
	Yeah, I'd give him a pass.
	I'll give it to him.
	He's a good guy.
	John Borthwick, CEO of Betaworks.
	Internet pioneer?
	I don't know.
	I never met him.
	Scott Bradner.
	Never even heard of the guy.
	No.
	Internet pioneer.
	Vinton G. Cerf.
	Yeah.
	Well, you have to give him some...
	Yeah, because what did he...
	Yeah, IP. He's an IP guy.
	Steven Crocker.
	Sounds familiar.
	Could be.
	David Farber.
	I think so.
	FCC chief technologist.
	Maybe.
	Martin Hellman.
	I've heard of him.
	I think maybe.
	He might be.
	He says internet security pioneer.
	Could be.
	Brewster Kale?
	Well, Brewster, who's over here.
	I mean, he's an internet archive, but he's not a pioneer of the internet, is he?
	He didn't do any of the protocols or anything that I know of.
	I like Brewster.
	I like him, too.
	How about Theodore Holm Nelson?
	Ted Nelson, that is...
	Hypertext pioneer.
	He invented hypertext, you got that, and he's always wrote a lot, and I don't know that it's...
	He was...
	Involved with this kind of stuff before the internet made it?
	No, I don't think so.
	Not really.
	No!
	Great guy.
	You're not a pioneer.
	David P. Reed?
	I don't know.
	Never heard of him.
	Internet pioneer.
	We should know him.
	How come we not know him?
	A lot of these guys are professors here and there.
	Paul Vixie?
	And they may have worked for the military.
	Paul Vixie?
	Don't know him.
	Internet pioneer.
	Stephen Wolfe?
	Sounds familiar.
	Internet pioneer.
	Steve Wozniak.
	No, he's not a pioneer of the internet.
	I don't see him being a pioneer of the internet unless you call, you know, inventing a floppy disk controller and a color computer having anything to do with it.
	So, clearly missing from the list is John C. Dvorak and Adam Clark Curry.
	Well, I wouldn't call either one of us internet pioneers.
	We're podcast pioneers.
	Yes.
	Listen to this, though.
	Listen to their note.
	We...
	How can you start a letter like that?
	We are the pioneers and technologists who created and now operate the Internet.
	Well, fuck y'all!
	End of letter.
	It sounds like a declaration more than it sounds like a letter.
	Horrible.
	Some of the innovators and business people who, like many others, depend on it for our livelihood.
	We are writing to respectfully urge you to call on FCC Chairman Ajit Pai to cancel the December 14th vote.
	This proposed order would repeal key network neutrality protections that prevent internet access providers from blocking content, websites, applications, slowing or speeding up services or class of service and charging online services for access to fast lanes to internet access providers' customers.
	The proposed order would also repeal oversight over other unreasonable discrimination and unreasonable practices and over interconnection with last-mile Internet access providers.
	The proposed order removes long-standing FCC oversight over Internet access providers without an inadequate replacement to protect consumers' free markets and online innovation.
	In other words, your racket.
	Hold on.
	Can you back off two sentences and read those again?
	Yes.
	It is important to understand that the FCC's...
	Sorry, wrong one.
	The proposed order removes long-standing FCC oversight over Internet access providers without an adequate replacement to protect consumers, free markets, and online innovation.
	So in other words, these guys...
	For whatever reason.
	You have to remember, Vincert is not...
	He's at Google.
	I know the reason.
	He's at Google.
	They want to be the boss.
	Vincert used to be at MCI. But the other guys have similar conflicts of interest.
	And that's what it is.
	It's a conflict of interest.
	And I just said, Wozniak, he doesn't care.
	But it says clearly, if you read that sentence again, that they want, they are demanding that the FCC take over the internet.
	Yeah.
	This is what, this is the, people are just, let me read a little more because I think it gets a little nuttier.
	They are demanding that the FCC take over the internet.
	That's what that said to me.
	Yeah, so they can really quash competition, namely their competition.
	It is important to understand that FCC's proposed order is based on a flawed and factually inaccurate understanding of internet technology.
	That's pretty brazen to say that.
	These flaws and inaccuracies were documented in detail in a 43-page long joint comment signed by over 200 of the most prominent internet pioneers and engineers and submitted to FCC on July 17th.
	Despite this comment, the FCC did not correct its misunderstandings, but instead premised the proposed order on the very technical flaws the comment explained.
	The technically incorrect proposed order dismantles 15 years of targeted oversight from both Republican and Democratic FCC chairs who understood the threats that Internet access providers could pose to open markets on the Internet.
	The expert's comment was not the...
	Hold on.
	Is there any discussion in this thing?
	Because you're not going to read the whole thing.
	No, I just said that.
	But I'm going to ask you if there's any discussion of the fact that the government, the same government that these guys are like hoping to take over the place, that the government has allowed merger and acquisition one after the another of every small fry out there who used to be an ISP and now that the government has allowed merger and acquisition one after the another of every small It happened to you right there in your own backyard when Time Warner got kicked out because they got bought out by somebody else.
	Spectrum.
	Became Spectrum.
	So I'm sure there's a bunch of complaining about this sort of lack of any sort of control, lack of oversight, lack of concern.
	Is that in there?
	Please.
	But here's what's interesting.
	Because this guy's jizzing all over himself.
	The expert's comment was not the only one the FCC ignored.
	Over 23 million comments have been submitted by public that is clearly passionate about protecting the internet.
	Yeah, thanks to your AstroTurf campaigns.
	Well, they're also turned it out to bots.
	Bots?
	Well, the FCC could...
	They've been busted for bots.
	The FCC could not possibly have considered these adequately.
	Indeed, breaking with established practice, the FCC has not held a single open public meeting to hear from citizens and experts about the proposed order.
	Furthermore, the FCC's online comment system has been plagued by major problems the FCC has not had time to investigate.
	These include bot-generated comments that impersonated Americans, including dead people, and an unexplained outage of the FCC's online comment system that occurred at the very moment TV host John Oliver was encouraging Americans to submit to the system.
	Mysterious, so they're implying...
	Hold on a second.
	Let me get this straight.
	These guys are accusing the FCC about not understanding the internet?
	Yep.
	And they don't see that they got overloaded to the system because of John Oliver, and they think instead of it being overloaded because of John Oliver, they actually think, or somebody does, somebody thinks, somebody pulled the plug?
	Yeah, that's exactly what they're implying.
	But what's interesting about the John Oliver comment, who was heralded as the pioneer of net neutrality, And he has all kinds of conflict.
	What?
	It's irrelevant.
	But here's what's going around on the face bag.
	And it always starts with, please cut and paste widely!
	Yeah, because if you just like something or share it...
	Put another time code down.
	It should be better.
	I think you're right.
	Please do this and cut and paste widely.
	Net neutrality is about to disappear.
	Like you can see it now.
	I see some other corner of my eye.
	Some net neutrality walking by.
	Net neutrality is about to disappear, which would be truly catastrophic.
	Follow John Oliver's instructions and tell the agency we want equal access and equal speed for everyone.
	Please do it now.
	It will take two minutes.
	Thanks to John Oliver, there's a super easy way to do this.
	And then he goes on to say, Go to GoFCCYourself.com, the shortcut John Oliver made to the hard-to-find FCC comment page.
	He's so awesome!
	John Oliver is the best!
	It goes on.
	It gives you instructions.
	These poor misguided schlubs.
	You're so misguided.
	But you know what?
	I'm not going to read any of this 43 pages for you, but I did read it.
	And what they're saying the FCC doesn't understand is the difference between a dumb telephone company, which is what they call the ISPs continuously, dumb, dumb pipes, Dumb network, which is very, very insulting to people who run these networks.
	If you think that this stuff is easy, you've got another thing coming.
	I've heard Leo Laporte say, it's just like water.
	He said, what's the problem?
	It's a big deal.
	I owned a data center, and it went bankrupt.
	That's how hard it is.
	It's a very capital-intensive...
	And really, a lot of work goes into making exchanges work.
	But okay, they're just dumb pipes run by dumb people who do dumb stuff.
	So they're saying that the FCC did not want to view them that way because FCC believes the ISPs provide important services in addition to dumb pipes.
	And do you know what the example that they used is DNS? Which I think is actually a pretty good example.
	Well, go on.
	For them to say, that's not an important service, sure, everyone wants you to enter 8.8.8.8 so Google can control your life.
	DNS is truly the DNA of the internet.
	You've messed with DNS. Don't mess with DNS. You've got problems.
	You've got big-ass problems.
	There are other things, but in general...
	What you said in the beginning is exactly that.
	You don't want the government regulating what is legal content and legal traffic.
	And I would say...
	That the FCC doesn't understand the internet yet they want the FCC to take over the internet.
	How does that make any sense?
	You've already said and you're trying to make the point that the FCC are a bunch of boneheads.
	Let's let them do everything.
	How does that even work?
	This is like Schumer and his policies about what the Republicans should worry about.
	I mean, come on.
	Make up your mind.
	Yeah.
	And I want to remind all these pioneers and everybody else out there.
	Hello, pioneers.
	We have a message for you.
	You're the same guys who said, oh, my God, whatever you do, don't let the government have any involvement in the Internet at all.
	Meanwhile, after the Amazon Google fracas, Google is now blocking Microsoft's YouTube Windows phone app from accessing any YouTube videos.
	Why does no one see the irony in this?
	You're actually not getting...
	they're throttling and blocking content to users.
	It just makes me nuts.
	And people think we're the biggest a-holes in the world for being against net neutrality instead of thinking, hmm, these guys have been around.
	Hmm, it's something different from a comedian on HBO who's on once a week.
	Maybe I should look into it or understand what's really going on.
	No, none of that.
	It's...
	Frustrating.
	Hooray for John Oliver!
	Yes.
	Hero of the stupid!
	I think you made your point.
	Yeah.
	Well...
	I gave up.
	I gave up.
	I wrote about five columns on this.
	Yeah, no one gives a shit.
	I mean, there's a few people that care, but most don't give a shit.
	They just lockstep whatever, you know, John Oliver said it, and, you know, somebody else said it, and all the pundits think it's right, but they don't.
	Yep.
	We don't see any downside.
	We don't see the hypocrisy of spending the whole early years of the internet saying don't let the government get involved and now demanding they get involved.
	Nobody sees that as nuts.
	Because it's not about anything altruistic.
	It is altruistic, actually.
	It's not about anything for the people.
	It's about them.
	It's all about them.
	It's about their companies and the power they want to have.
	They want anyone in their way.
	Anyone, anyone, anyone.
	Hey, what's your polar bear clip?
	The polar bear clip is a teaser for a...
	I just thought it was hilarious.
	It was a teaser for a special.
	The polar bears are increasing in numbers, but they decided...
	It's like the powers that be or the system has decided that, no, it doesn't fit in with the narrative.
	And I use that word rarely now, by the way.
	Let's go back to 2005, I believe, when the original An Inconvenient Truth came out.
	And very famously, there was a shot of a polar bear on a little slice of ice looking really hungry and very sad.
	And the polar bears are dying.
	By the way, you don't want to mess with a polar bear.
	But the polar bears are dying.
	That's the genesis of the story.
	So this is a special about it?
	Yeah, this is a tea slip just from a couple weeks ago.
	Tonight on Nightline.
	Nightline.
	Inside the melting Arctic Circle, where the elusive polar bear is clawing for survival.
	Their habitat's gone away.
	The world should be interested in this.
	As their environment disappears beneath their feet, these powerful killers are moving inland towards humankind.
	Is that the most frightened you've ever been in your life?
	Our Amy Robach on a journey to the edge of the earth.
	There are four polar bears right there swimming in the water.
	That's incredible.
	With the Americans who call it home.
	Most people here have firearms just in case.
	We try to scare them out.
	And the scientists racing to save this vulnerable species.
	This special edition of Nightline, Vanishing Ice, the last American polar bears, will be right back.
	Well, it's as if we had coordinated this program today, which we don't do.
	I picked up a little report on NPR from the guy who wrote the book on polar bears.
	He went to Scandinavia with his whole family.
	I think he went to, it's the name of a president, this town.
	I can't remember.
	It's in the piece.
	And, uh, uh-oh.
	Uh-oh!
	In 2008, writer Zach Unger had a plan.
	He was going to save the polar bears by writing an epic treatise on the demise of the species.
	My humble plan was to become a hero of the environmental movement.
	I was going to go up to the Canadian Arctic.
	I was going to write this mournful elegy for the polar bears, at which point I'd be hailed as the next coming of John Muir.
	Again, this is NPR. Born aloft on the shoulders of my environmental compatriots.
	There was just one problem.
	Not all the polar bears seemed to be dying.
	He realized the truth about the polar bears was complicated.
	When I got up there, I started realizing that polar bears were not in as bad shape as the conventional wisdom had led me to believe, which was actually very heartening, but didn't fit well with the book I'd been planning to write.
	A lot of people are going to hear that and say, wait a second.
	All we've been told for a decade now is that the polar bears are going extinct, and it's our fault, and they're all dying, and the ice is shrinking, and their lives are soon going to be over.
	Well, here's a fact that kind of blew me away when I first realized it.
	There are far more polar bears alive today than there were 40 years ago.
	There are about 25,000 polar bears alive today worldwide.
	In 1973, there was a global hunting ban.
	And so once hunting was dramatically reduced, the population exploded.
	So this is not to say that global warming is not real or is not a problem for the polar bears.
	But polar bear populations are large, and the truth is that we can't look at it as a monolithic population that is all going one way or another.
	You moved your whole family up north to do the research for this book.
	What was that like?
	Well, you know, the idea was to use my children as bait, of course.
	The polar bears love little kids.
	They're perfect snacks.
	That part I liked a lot.
	We're in this town in northern Manitoba where polar bears literally will walk down Main Street.
	People leave their houses and their cars unlocked, and it's perfectly good for them just to duck into any open door you can find when there's a polar bear chase.
	So there are literally polar bears on the streets, walking the streets with people from time to time.
	Well, I don't want to oversell it.
	There are definitely polar bears that come into town.
	There are polar bears that will take a swipe at garbage cans.
	There are polar bears that eat people's dogs.
	But Churchill has developed a really innovative polar bear alert program.
	And the way that works is you dial a phone number, 675-BEAR, when you see a bear, and a bunch of wildlife conservation officers in a truck with a bunch of guns come by, and they kind of scare the bears out of town.
	And they have a A progression that they use.
	First, they will fire firecracker shells, then they'll move up to rubber bullets, and then, if necessary, as a last resort, move up to real bullets.
	Then they'll actually kill the polar bear if they have to.
	If they have to.
	That's very, very rare.
	They don't want to do that.
	These are conservation officers, so their job is to keep bears safe.
	So there you go.
	And in the entire report, after that little bit that he mentioned, no one ever said, so maybe this global warming thing is bullcrap?
	Well, he said in there that he doesn't believe that global warming is happening probably and it may be affecting polar bears, but not necessarily adversely.
	But they're growing in population.
	It's never been as big in the past 40 years.
	I got emails from, I think, a Dutch listener or someone who may have listened or was told to email me.
	I don't know.
	Like, I like you, man, but what's up with you and climate change?
	The polar bears are dying!
	You said the polar bears are dying?
	Yep.
	In the letter?
	Well, he's an idiot.
	He's Dutch, so he said, the polar bears are dying, you son of a bitch!
	He's a nut because this is a known fact that comes up in the conversation all the time that the polar bears aren't dying, but they keep harping on it.
	This is the same kind of litany.
	It's like you got a checklist.
	Polar bears are dying.
	Let's put that on the checklist.
	It's got to be checked off.
	I mean, it's just annoying to see this kind of thing just continue and continue and continue.
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	If not just any jam, this is...
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	Jobs.
	Jobs.
	And jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got...
	Karma.
	Oh, boy, everybody.
	Time for the no agenda birthday list.
	It's a big one, so stand by.
	We say happy birthday to Michael Zimmerman, who turns 23 today.
	Happy birthday!
	Happy birthday, yeah!
	That's it.
	One birthday today.
	One.
	One.
	Kind of trace it back nine months and figure out why.
	Yeah, something was not going on.
	Something was not going on.
	Something was not going on at all.
	Now, a couple things here.
	I have a couple of things I'd like to share with you.
	No nightings?
	No, no nightings.
	I know, because you want the song too, but I'll play it at the end of the show.
	There's no nightings.
	There's no nothing.
	There's no title changes.
	There's bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.
	I have a couple of hate clips, which is always nice.
	Now...
	It's always nice here to know a gender show to have some hate clips.
	This is very hateful.
	Omaroso.
	Omaroso.
	They have a fancy title for her there at the White House, but she's basically in charge of communicating with black people.
	You know who I'm talking about.
	It's Omarosa.
	Yeah, Amorosa used to be one of her sidekicks on The Apprentice.
	The Apprentice, yes.
	Well, big news.
	Everybody freaking out.
	Oh, she got fired.
	She got escorted out of the White House.
	She tried to bust into the West Wing to talk to the President.
	Why?
	Why?
	Now, you think I'm exaggerating with that voice that I do, but here on CNN, this was really mind-boggling to me, maybe not to anybody else, but we have April Ryan.
	Who I think broke the story.
	We have the host, Brooke Baldwin, and Angela Rye.
	Angela Rye is the one I want you to focus on in this clip.
	She worked for the Congressional Black Caucus.
	I believe she was a...
	I don't know.
	Maybe I'm mischaracterizing, but I never got the idea she had a very important role at the Congressional Black Caucus, but she's been a CNN commentator and a major hater of anything Trump, anything Republican.
	And this story comes up, and let's listen to her response.
	Same weekend, she came and saddled up next to me trying to do something, again with the former president of the NABJ, who she's friends with, to stir up some controversy.
	And we also know, we remember that famous tape with Ed Gordon, where she, that, I guess it was Friday, where she was battling it out on the stage.
	It was very unladylike.
	It was very, it was ugly.
	But the White House also, and absolutely, but the White House condoned this.
	And so, while again, I'm no fan of Omarosa, I will say that I find it interesting that the high drama person, the high drama, high profile African American individual in the White House is no longer to be tolerated, but there are lots of other problematic high drama individuals that still have jobs.
	Well, Brooke...
	Go ahead, Angela.
	I want to hear you.
	And then I do want to talk about the black vote in Alabama.
	I want to talk about the black vote, too.
	But, Brooke, I'm going to do what you can't do and what April and Simone are too good of people to do.
	And that's just going to be petty for a minute.
	Oh, Angela.
	Oh, Angela.
	Bye, girl.
	Oh, Angela.
	We did it already on the podcast, April, but bye, honey.
	You have never represented the community.
	You are skin folk.
	We don't own you like Zora.
	Goodbye, good riddance.
	Goodbye.
	Dukes.
	Angela, you know I have much love for you, but you know what?
	I don't delight in anyone's demise.
	I'm not delighting in her demise.
	I wish her the best, but...
	God.
	So happy that...
	And I had to look up skinfolk.
	I know you're skinfolk.
	Yeah, I never heard that before.
	Yeah, it's in the Urban Dictionary.
	It means you're of same color, but you don't necessarily like the person.
	I know you're skinfolk, which means you're the same color, even though we don't like each other.
	We're skinfolk!
	Oh man, that Angela Rye is a hate, hate.
	She's going to get sick from her hate.
	She probably is already.
	Why would they have her on CNN? She sounds like she's unhinged.
	That's why.
	And you ask the question, why?
	Because that's what they want.
	They want some unhinged people on the air.
	And honestly, that's why I watch.
	But here's Omarosa with a sit-down, calm interview explaining, explaining it.
	What happened?
	I resigned, and I didn't do that in the residence as being reported.
	John Kelly and I sat down in the Situation Room, which is a very secure, very quiet room in the White House, and we had a very candid conversation.
	And I wanted to make the one-year mark.
	That was one of the goals that I set out to.
	And then get back to my life.
	So you resigned.
	You weren't fired after being reported.
	And you know, I like to hear all of these interesting tales, but I have to tell you that they're 100% false.
	One of the things that I'd ask of those people who are making those assertions, since they assert that I did it so publicly, is where are the pictures or videos?
	If I had confronted John Kelly, who is a very formidable person, It would garner enough attention for anyone in the room to at least take a picture.
	So apparently this all came down at like some White House party and she was yelling and screaming at Kelly.
	Or a video or something.
	The assertion that I would do that in front of 600 guests at a Christmas party and no one has reported that except for one individual.
	Who has a personal vendetta against me.
	And so I have to tell you, completely false, unverified reporting.
	And John Kelly and I had a very straightforward discussion about concerns that I had, issues that I had raised.
	And as a result, I resigned, and it will be taking place January the 20th, when I leave this very interesting administration.
	So you're saying that all these reports are coming from one person, but you speak to...
	One person, no.
	Let's be clear.
	Only one person.
	Only one person.
	No one else has reported what she's reporting, and this is the one person who has attacked me for the last year.
	And so you know that this is personal.
	And that was April Ryan.
	Somehow I had a clip of her report.
	It was all sources, sources, sources, sources, sources.
	Unnamed sources.
	So April Ryan is a bad actor.
	But this black-on-black hate, female black-on-black hate.
	You got fired!
	Jeez, ladies.
	But not as bad as the USA Today editorial board.
	What do we know over there at USA Today?
	Is Schwartz still there?
	He might be, but he should quit immediately.
	Oh, the place has just gone downhill since it was turned over.
	It used to be run by...
	It's a long story, but right now who's in control of it is completely nuts.
	Well, can I just read a little bit of this?
	Oh, yeah, sure.
	It starts off...
	This is an editorial, I believe, and not an op-ed.
	No, it's the editorial board.
	Yeah.
	So these...
	Who's on...
	Let me just see.
	There's a link.
	Who is on the editorial board?
	There's something you never do.
	Let's see.
	Well, they don't have...
	What is this?
	They don't have a good list.
	I wonder...
	Well, maybe you can look up who the editor...
	Wait, they have a link, and the link leads to no list?
	No, it links to all of their opinions, but it doesn't list their...
	who's on the board.
	Now we have to...
	Before you read it, we've got to get these guys...
	The book of knowledge!
	Editorial board.
	Just bing it.
	Just bing it.
	Bing it, bing it, bing it, bing it.
	Just bing it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah. .
	Do you have it yet?
	I'm going to Bing it.
	Yeah, I'm looking at it.
	Yeah!
	You're going to Bing it?
	Good.
	Okay.
	Do you have it?
	Yeah.
	We got Bill Sternberg, David Mastillo, Jill Lawrence.
	I don't know any of these people.
	Duan, Dale Elston, Josh Rivera, Eileen Rivers.
	Is there anyone we know?
	Sandra Torrey, Greg Zoraria, no, nobody we know.
	Okay, here we go.
	Let me just read this to you.
	Headline.
	Will Trump's lows ever hit rock bottom?
	Here's the lead.
	A president who'd all but call a senator a whore is unfit to clean toilets in Obama's presidential library or to shine George W. Bush's shoes.
	Whoa.
	That right there just says it all.
	With his latest tweet clearly implying, clearly implying that a United States...
	Literally!
	You got your mind in the gutter.
	...that a United States senator would trade sexual favors for campaign cash.
	President Trump has shown he is not fit for office.
	Rock bottom is no impediment for a president who can always find room for a new low.
	Can I ask an interesting logical question?
	Sure.
	If Trump is such a douchebag sleazeball...
	Wouldn't he have taken the opportunity to get a blowjob from her?
	I'm thinking he might have.
	Yeah.
	Well, I don't think he did.
	Because I don't think that's what this implies.
	Of course it doesn't.
	He would have taken the blowjob and then bitched about it.
	She was no good.
	It didn't work right.
	White House spokesman Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Tuesday dismissed the president's smear as a misunderstanding because...
	Let me just read the tweet so people have that in context and verbatim.
	Lightweight Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, a total flunky for Chuck Schumer and someone who would come to my office, quote, begging, unquote, for campaign contributions not so long ago, in parentheses, and would do anything for them...
	Is now in the ring fighting against Trump.
	Very disloyal to Bill and crooked.
	Used.
	So that, if your mind is there, I guess you can see that's calling her a whore.
	I think the only reason why people think that that's what he meant is because they might have done it.
	I don't know.
	I mean, it's...
	Anyway, White House spokesman Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Tuesday dismissed the president's smear as a misunderstanding because he used similar language about men.
	Of course, words used about men and women are different.
	Okay, when candidate Trump said a journalist was bleeding from her wherever, he didn't mean her nose.
	Another thing I disagree with.
	You remember that?
	About Kelly?
	Megyn Kelly?
	Yeah, I remember it.
	I remember the context, and I remember the way...
	In fact, when I first heard it, I didn't think that she was...
	Because our minds are not in the gutter, that's why.
	He said, well, she's bleeding from her eyes, her ears, whatever.
	And it wasn't seeming...
	It wasn't targeted.
	I just didn't hear it.
	I didn't hear what everyone else heard, which is, oh, he just smeared her somehow.
	We're Trump apologists.
	We're Trump apologists.
	We don't even think much of the guy.
	I don't want to go on.
	And as is the case with all of Trump's digital provocations, the president's words were deliberate.
	He pours the gasoline of sexist language and lights the match gleefully, knowing how it will burst into flame in a country reeling from the hashtag MeToo movement.
	A president who would all but call Senator Kirsten Gillibrand a whore is not fit to clean the toilets in Barack Obama's.
	They used it twice?
	Yeah.
	So the guy who wrote the editorial called Gillibrand a whore twice?
	Yes.
	So he's the guy calling her a whore?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Do you want to get that straight?
	Go on.
	It should surprise no one how low he went with Gillibrand.
	When accused during the campaign of sexually harassing or molesting women in the past, Trump's response was to belittle the looks of his accusers.
	Okay, blah blah blah blah blah.
	Let me see.
	If recent history is any guide, the unique awfulness of the Trump era in U.S. politics is only going to get worse.
	Trump's utter lack of morality, ethics, and simple humanity has been underscored during his 11 months in office.
	Let us count the ways.
	Enthusiastically supporting Alabama Republican State Senate candidate Roy Moore, who has been accused...
	A lie!
	We proved that earlier in the show.
	That's a lie.
	He was not enthusiastic, and he actually was for this guy strange.
	So, okay, let's just...
	I just want to make sure that we're noticing that this is just a blatant lie.
	Yep.
	All right, go on.
	Trump apparently is going for some sort of record for lying while in office.
	Kettle, pot.
	As of mid-November, he had made 1,628 misleading or false statements in 298 days in office.
	That's 5.5 false claims per day!
	According to the Washington Post, fact checkers.
	Fact check false.
	Trump takes advantage of any occasion, even Monday's failed terrorist attack in New York, to stir racial, religious, or ethnic strife.
	I agree with that.
	That was very annoying to me, where we still don't know jack crap about Vegas, but this guy, we know who he is, we know his chain migration, we had people talking about chain migration.
	I totally suspect this failed attempt, because it failed, as a ruse, and I think Trump's in on it.
	I don't put it beyond him.
	I really don't.
	Or the administration.
	A man who clearly wants to put his stamp on the government, Trump hasn't even done his job when it comes to filling key government positions that require Senate confirmation.
	And then the final point, Trump has shown contempt for ethical strictures.
	Does he mention about the Senate confirmation that Gillibrand, who has voted no against every possible confirmation, which he admits to?
	Nope.
	Okay.
	Nope.
	What are ethical strictures?
	S-T-R-I-C-T-U-R-E-S. Strictures.
	Strictures would be ethical standards.
	It would be like standards.
	That have bound every president in recent memory.
	He has refused to release his tax returns with the absurd excuse that it's because he is under audit.
	He has refused to put his multi-billion dollar business interests in a blind trust and peddles the fiction that putting them in the hands of his sons does the same thing.
	Not to mention calling white supremacists very fine people, pardoning a lawless sheriff, firing a respected FBI director, and pushing the Justice Department to investigate his political foes.
	It is a shock that only six Democratic senators are calling for our unstable president to resign.
	The nation does not seek nor expect perfect presidents, and some have certainly been deeply flawed.
	But a president who shows such disrespect for the truth, for ethics, for the basic duties of the job, and for decency towards others fails at the very essence of what has always made America great.
	Now, along with this, because this is clearly dimension B, this is alternative universe, this is their perception, so it's their reality ideology.
	I cannot, nor am I interested in fighting that.
	People see it this way, and they believe it, and you just can't help it.
	But where this comes from...
	Is something deeply rooted, and we talked about it after, sometimes John and I will give each other little tips of things to watch.
	I doubt you had a chance to look yet, and probably better because you will hate it so much.
	Did you watch the new Sarah Silverman show on HBO? No.
	Good.
	This is from one of the episodes, and this one, I think Tina and I decided to go have sex instead of watching the rest of it, which was a good decision.
	But when you listen to this little monologue, It explains, well, it doesn't explain how it happened, but it shows you what's going on in the alternative universes where their perception is the following reality.
	I had a boyfriend many years ago.
	He was my first boyfriend who had his own house.
	And one day I went outside to see what he was doing, and he was hoisting an American flag up the flagpole in his front yard.
	And I instantly felt very weird.
	It didn't make sense, but I felt this feeling of like, I felt scared.
	Yeah, I felt scared.
	And so I was like, what are you doing?
	And he said...
	Raising the flag?
	And I was like, why?
	And he's like, um, because I love America?
	And I was like, right.
	Right.
	Of course.
	But inside I was shaken.
	And then I calmly walked to my car and I got inside and I called my sister Susie to tell her what happened.
	Now maybe you're thinking...
	What do you mean what happened?
	Nothing happened.
	Your boyfriend put an American flag up at his own house.
	No, you're totally right.
	I had no idea why I was freaking out.
	I just, I had this very visceral reaction.
	And my sister, who knows s*** because she's a rabbi in Israel, explained to me, she was like, dude, nationalism is innately terrifying for Jews.
	Think about it.
	Flags, marching, blind allegiance.
	These things tend to ring a bell for us.
	Right.
	Of course.
	Duh.
	It made sense.
	And it made me realize that the things that terrify some people are the same things that give other people great comfort.
	You know, it's like the way the sight of a police car might give some people comfort.
	For instance, white people.
	What?
	Or it might make other people very uncomfortable, like, say, unarmed black children playing in a park.
	Oh, and I guess like the Duke boys.
	They always had run-ins with the cops, didn't they?
	But they would have been shot dead in episode one if they weren't white as the driven snow with a Confederate flag on the top of their car.
	I find that nationalist movements tend to kind of exploit patriotism for their own cause.
	Like, take a slogan like, Make America Great Again or America First.
	They go down easy.
	They sound patriotic.
	But patriotism and nationalism, to me, are very different things.
	Like, patriotism is loving your country.
	I'm a total patriot.
	I love my country.
	Whereas nationalism has this, like, we're number one vibe.
	And I fear that that we're number one nationalism is really like an old bed buddy of racism and xenophobia.
	And by the way, if something is truly number one, you don't have to go around saying it all the time.
	It's kind of like a beta move, really.
	I mean, Harvard doesn't take out ads that say, Harvard, the world's number one college, apply now.
	The failing Princeton is number three, sad.
	You know, like, um, Before we discuss it, I would like to read from Harvard.
	Harvard is the best school because the best students choose Harvard.
	Year after year, students who are accepted to Harvard and other schools pick Harvard over other schools in the majority of cases.
	When students are admitted to both Harvard and Yale, for example, 58% of students choose Harvard over Yale.
	I mean, come on, Sarah.
	But there it is.
	There it is.
	To me, in a nutshell, the idea that the American flag, that it freaks her out, that it's scary to her, with that as the undercurrent of what is present in the United States of Gitmo Nation, I think we're done.
	I mean, we invented the big foam finger number one.
	We invented that.
	We're endeared and mocked for it.
	It's who we are.
	I think.
	You always do this.
	You'll take something like this idiot who is not a professor of anything.
	She's a professor of comedy.
	She was trying to be funny.
	And then you'll make some comedy.
	You've done this a number of times and I find it very galling.
	You...
	You go, oh, we're done.
	We're through.
	We're fucked.
	That's it.
	We're done.
	We might as well shoot ourselves.
	And you take this very negative look at it.
	At what point did I use the F word or say we might as well shoot ourselves?
	That is your interpretation and your perception.
	No, you've done it before.
	When did you use the F word?
	I don't know.
	You use it.
	But it's beside the point.
	I'm trying to point out that you have taken this negative approach when you see some lunatic like Sarah Silverman I think you're right about your analysis, right?
	She's got a screw loose and she's weird.
	But it doesn't mean we're done by any means.
	It just means she's done.
	And how's it going here in America so far?
	I don't know.
	There's a lot of harmony.
	There's some disharmony, but I'm looking out there at the packed freeway.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So it's galling to you.
	Fine.
	Here's my question to you.
	Where does this come from?
	This fear of someone hoisting the flag because they love their country.
	Where does that...
	Explain to me, when did this happen?
	Now, she throws in a Jew joke, like, okay, sure, that's very funny.
	The smart rabbi told her this is what it was.
	Bullcrap.
	But I think this is something that is present and real.
	Yeah, I'm not going to argue that.
	So where does it come from?
	How did this happen?
	Globalism.
	This is the globalist.
	You've explained the globalist perspective, which is dimension B. No borders, no barriers, no prisons, no borders, no flags, no countries.
	And that is permeated.
	That is the problem, which is this global as always.
	We were just one big happy kumbaya, one world government.
	That should be just fine.
	Let George Soros take over the place.
	And she's just reflecting.
	But how did how did how did that get in?
	To her psyche.
	The schools.
	It's in her psyche.
	They don't teach civics anymore.
	They don't teach American history the way it should be taught.
	They have no pride in the country, the entire school system.
	They just demean everything, but they promote the globalist, one-world government, internationalist movement.
	And that's what our show fights.
	Oh, I'm still fighting it.
	Just because I say that I think we're doomed doesn't mean we don't fight it.
	Oh, wow.
	For Mr.
	Crank to call me the Crank, that's pretty rich.
	I thought you had this before.
	About five months ago, you did the same thing.
	You got real depressed about somebody.
	Five months?
	Wow, every five months, I'd say something that really galls you.
	Look, man, complain about the potholes again, and we're done with it.
	I got other things to complain about.
	And I rarely complain about the potholes.
	I got something to complain about.
	You've got something to complain about.
	It's not just the FBI who is corrupt and rotten and is part of the deep state trying to get their way.
	CIA has their fingerprints all over a lot of this muck.
	And that was demonstrated by Mike Morrell, right?
	Right.
	He says right at least...
	After every other sentence in this interview.
	Right.
	I'm surprised he doesn't say it more.
	So he did an interview, I think it was with Politico.
	And the Politico interviewer also has some funny comments in there.
	And he's pretty much admitting that CIA really, really messed with then-candidate and to this day still with President Donald Trump.
	In August of 2016, when I became political...
	When I became political, let me tell you what happened, son.
	You didn't become political.
	You were told to be political.
	I find it very disingenuous.
	I became political.
	It was so hard for me to do that.
	No, you were told to do it.
	You didn't say, hey, I want to go be political.
	Is that okay, CIA? Not how it works.
	In August of 2016, when I became political...
	Right?
	When I endorsed Hillary Clinton with an op-ed in the New York Times.
	And that was a very difficult decision for me.
	And let's remember that this happened right after he resigned.
	He did that op-ed.
	It wasn't like a period of reflection.
	No, just right away.
	Good point, good point.
	Thank you.
	Because I had never been political before.
	I worked at this non-political agency, bright red line between intelligence and policy and intelligence and politics.
	I had never played in that world before.
	But I was so deeply concerned about what a Trump presidency might look like from a national security perspective and believe that there was such a gap between Secretary Clinton and Donald Trump with regard to how well they would protect the country that I thought it extremely important to come out and say that.
	Okay.
	So flash forward a year.
	Was that a mistake?
	I don't think it was a mistake.
	I think there were downsides to it that I didn't think about at the time.
	I was concerned about what is the impact it would have on the agency, right?
	Very concerned about that, thought that through.
	But I don't think I fully thought through the implications.
	And one of the ways I've thought about that, Susan, is, okay, how did Donald Trump see this?
	It's very important.
	One of the things we do as intelligence analysts is make sure that our guy, the president, understands the other guy.
	So let's put ourselves here in Donald Trump's shoes.
	So what does he see?
	He sees a former director of CIA and a former director of NSA, Mike Hayden, who I have the greatest respect for.
	I'm criticizing him and his policies, right?
	And he could rightfully have said, huh, you know, what's going on with these intelligence guys?
	It embroiders his narrative.
	Exactly.
	And then he sees a former acting director and deputy director of CIA criticizing him and endorsing his opponent.
	And then he gets his first intelligence briefing after becoming the Republican nominee.
	And within 24 to 48 hours, there are leaks.
	Out of that, that are critical of him and his then National Security Advisor, Mike Flynn.
	And so this stuff starts to build, right?
	And he must have said to himself, what is it with these intelligence guys?
	Are they political?
	The current director at the time, John Brennan, during the campaign occasionally would push back On things that Donald Trump had said.
	So when Trump talked about the Iran nuclear deal being the worst deal in the history of American diplomacy, and he was going to tear it up on the first day, John Brennan came out publicly and said that would be an act of folly.
	So he sees a current sitting director pushing back on him, right?
	Then he becomes president, and he's supposed to be getting a daily brief from the moment he becomes the president-elect, right?
	And he doesn't.
	And within a few days, there's leaks about how he's not taking a briefing.
	So he must have thought, right, that who are these guys?
	These guys out to get me?
	Is this a political organization?
	Can I think about them as a political organization when I become president, right?
	Okay, what is it?
	Right count, I think it was 15.
	I think you missed a couple.
	No, the troll room was counting.
	But you hear what he's saying?
	He's saying, we leaked?
	And then we didn't give him briefings and we said he didn't take briefings?
	Maybe he's stating it incorrectly, but it sure sounds like it, and there's another piece to this.
	For every other part of the intelligence community except CIA, you're working for a cabinet member.
	At CIA, you are working for the President of the United States.
	That is your customer, right?
	So when you see your customer questioning what it is that you are providing information, to him or her and that person seems to be cherry-picking what they accept and what they don't accept.
	It's demoralizing.
	And when it's demoralizing, people take actions, right?
	So I live pretty close to the agency.
	There's a coffee shop between me and the agency and I've met a number of agency officers in that coffee shop We need to find out what coffee shop this is.
	This sounds like a fantastic place to go hang out, because that's where the spooks all hang.
	I live pretty close to the agency.
	There's a coffee shop between me and the agency, and I've met a number of agency officers in that coffee shop who have said to me, you know, I'm thinking about leaving.
	And my pushback to them is your country needs you now more than ever.
	Don't leave, right?
	But it does lead people to question whether or not what they're doing is of value.
	And it's a – look, working there is really hard.
	The problems are hard.
	They're complex.
	They're not easy to solve.
	Some of these targets that we're trying to collect intelligence are extraordinarily difficult.
	People operate in very dangerous places.
	The hours are long.
	The pressure on families is really tough.
	And so if you think what you're doing doesn't matter because the President of the United States is selectively listening, it has impact.
	Oh, geez.
	What a crock.
	Yeah.
	But...
	I was thinking of leaving because Trump didn't take my report.
	Bull crap.
	This is bull.
	They didn't even give him the report.
	They won't even give him the report of the right briefings.
	Maybe they're thinking of leaving because their bosses are a-holes and they want to leave.
	You know, Brandon was a Muslim.
	Yeah.
	I know.
	A little tidbit that nobody wants to own up to.
	I have a number of short, shortish clips.
	Maybe keep them for Sunday.
	I don't understand why they haven't called this text gate yet.
	I've been waiting for someone to do it.
	Why don't we just say it?
	These text messages between FBI agent Scrotum and his girlfriend, Lisa Page.
	Yeah.
	You want to hear these?
	Why don't we put that off, because I think we've wrapped up.
	I do have one short, short 37-second clip, which answers one of your questions.
	I thought we'd get it out of the way.
	Uh-huh.
	Which is, where's the polar vortex?
	I'm not tracking it all.
	I know it's not officially here, but it's here.
	It is, and it's been a biting wind all day long.
	New York not alone, as you mentioned.
	Take a look at some of these numbers, what it feels like right now across much of the Northeast.
	Single digits in many spots.
	Teens, and as we look ahead towards tomorrow afternoon, really it doesn't get any warmer, nor does it on Friday because we've got a strong Alberta clipper that's bringing that snow to the Great Lakes.
	That's going to usher in more in the way of cold air.
	Right now it's got snow covering the entire hand of Michigan, Detroit.
	And getting in through Pittsburgh, could see four to eight inches of snow, including northern parts of Ohio.
	By the time it gets into New York, though, tomorrow in New Jersey, only one to three inches, but maybe enough to slick up the morning rush.
	David?
	Thank you.
	Thank you for solving this great mystery.
	Yeah, it's the Alberta Clipper.
	That's right.
	The Clipper did it.
	Damn you, Alberta Clipper.
	As soon as I heard that, I said, oh, Adam needs to know this.
	Alberta Clipper.
	Is that, thank you, is that, don't they have a sports team?
	I don't think so.
	Who are the Clippers?
	Don't the Clippers play somewhere?
	The ice hockey team?
	Yeah, in San Diego.
	Ah, close.
	It's almost Scandinavia.
	All right, I'll do a tease then.
	Here's what you're going to hear on Sunday's show.
	This is the person we needed to avoid a conflict of interest.
	And then he said this.
	They fully deserve to go and demonstrate the absolute bigoted nonsense of Trump.
	But he wasn't content to just disparage Donald Trump.
	He had to disparage Donald Trump's family.
	This is what he said, Mr.
	Deputy Attorney General.
	He said, the douchebags are about to come out.
	He's talking about our First Lady and children.
	This conflict of interest-free special agent of the FBI. I love that.
	Just anyone who will use the word douchebag in Congress has my vote.
	Yeah, I vote for him.
	All right.
	Alrighty.
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