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	Adam Curry.
	John C. Dvorak.
	And Thursday, December 7th, 2017, this is your award-winning Gimbo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 9 or 8, 8.
	This is No Agenda.
	Winding up the sticks to save L.A. and broadcasting live from downtown Austin, Tejas.
	Capital of the Drone Star Stick here in the Cudio in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm expecting the worst, I'm John C. Devorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Yeah, how far are you from any of this, Jean-Claude?
	350 miles.
	Oh, okay.
	So you're far enough.
	I know a guy who's in Santa Barbara and it's like eight miles away.
	Yeah.
	Isn't that where Oprah lives?
	I mean, that can't be done.
	You can't burn down Oprah's place.
	Well, they're not going to burn down Santa Barbara, that's for sure.
	But the shots from the 405 going through just nothing but flames on either side of the road were fantastic.
	Now, is this typical for California?
	Drive from hell.
	Through hell.
	Is this typical for California?
	No, it's global warming, man.
	No, I understand it's global warming, but it's been going on for years, the global warming.
	So I wonder if maybe it's...
	No, it's just the confluence of two things.
	One, we had too much rain, and then that area, especially in the Ventura County area, apparently had been overgrowing for years, and there had been no fires there because we have all these fires in Southern California when the Santa Ana winds.
	And so when this thing took off, it just took off like a rocket.
	Wow.
	It's bad.
	Well, I mean, you have 70-mile-an-hour winds.
	Right.
	It's the same thing that happened in Napa Valley.
	We had these reverse winds that come off the desert, and they're dry, and they're high speed, and they use something lights.
	It's just like a blowtorch.
	Well, I think we should do it for them, then.
	Okay, I kind of resist this because of the East Coast getting pummeled.
	Yeah, and we have rain here now.
	But by the way, I think also the East Coast getting pummeled is mostly lake effect snow, which will have nothing to do with the rain stick.
	Exactly.
	The sticks do not do snow.
	They only do rain, as far as we know.
	Yeah, the rain sticks.
	Are you ready?
	California.
	How many times do you want to do it?
	We got to do three.
	It's a threefer.
	Ready?
	One, two, three.
	Wait, stop.
	Oh, I'm already in sequence.
	I can't stop.
	One, two, three.
	It's going to rain like a...
	It'll be too late, by the way.
	It's going to rain like crazy in Austin.
	That's always how it goes.
	Well, I don't know.
	Too late or not, I feel we should still give it a shot for our brothers and sisters.
	We did have a few requests.
	Yeah.
	So, anyway.
	Do you have a TV or anything monitoring the news?
	No, I don't.
	Should I? Is there something that...
	Well, I want to show you what Al Franken does.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I guess the idea is that he resigns today.
	Well, that's never been confirmed by his office.
	I have...
	I'm thinking.
	I have a bunch of Al Franken clips.
	Well, let me start with a backgrounder.
	Go.
	Quick backgrounder, ABC. We're at about two dozen senators now, including some male senators, but the majority of the female senators, I believe.
	Also the chairman of the Democratic National Committee calling on him to resign.
	It is a coordinated effort to push him out, which is a striking departure from the effort to rally behind him and around him that's dominated since the stories first broke.
	I think in part it's driven by new accusations, new revelations, but I think more broadly it's a recognition of this cultural moment, this societal moment that we're in, The contrast with Republicans who have rallied behind Roy Moore, the RNC re-endorsing him, President Trump offering that endorsement as well, I think could not be more stark.
	And I think that's one point for Democrats.
	I think it's even bigger than that, though.
	I think Democrats are realizing now, look, we cannot say that we stand in solidarity with the women who Say that they've suffered at the hands of powerful men without showing, by example, that there is accountability.
	And the fact that John Conyers, the senior member of Congress, House or Senate, happens to be a Democrat, resigned his seat this week.
	That's the beginning of that accountability.
	And there have been several senators, Al Franken's colleagues, who've come out just in the last few minutes and said their expectation is that Senator Franken resigns his seat tomorrow.
	Democrats who realize this is a bigger moment than they can potentially harness, they realize that women are frustrated and angry.
	Many of them are running for office now for the first time, citing this sort of treatment endemic in society.
	And I think they're looking at this and they want that contrast.
	And whatever happens in Alabama next week, I don't think is going to be impacted by Al Franken in Minnesota and whatever his decision is.
	But I think Democrats would like to say, look, when we had a problem in our own ranks, we did something about it.
	Look at what the Republicans have done and use that as a voter to make a judgment.
	There's your strategy.
	I have a similar one from ABC, which is a report.
	Coordinated attack on Franken.
	Oh, yeah.
	Interesting.
	You put little dashes in front.
	Did you do that?
	No.
	No.
	Oh.
	Must be a database.
	The cascade of calls for Al Franken to go started this morning with a handful of women senators.
	Enough is enough.
	It appeared to be a coordinated strike.
	One after another, they flooded social media.
	By the end of the day, at least 38 senators were calling on Franken to resign.
	They're saying he should resign.
	And I get no pride or pleasure in saying that.
	Thank you.
	Just days ago, most Democrats were holding their fire.
	This was Senator Patty Murray of Washington.
	The Senate Ethics Committee should do an investigation, and that's where I believe it should go.
	Just FYI, he resigned about 30 minutes ago.
	Oh, he did resign?
	Yeah.
	He's done.
	But today, a starkly...
	Sorry?
	I didn't say anything.
	A different tone.
	Murray tweeting, I'm shocked and appalled by Senator Franken's behavior.
	It's clear to me that this has been a deeply harmful persistent problem and a clear pattern over a long period of time.
	What was the tipping point here?
	Why today?
	The numerosity and the type of complaints and accusations.
	Just hours earlier, another woman had come forward saying Franken forcibly kissed her.
	The senator denies that allegation.
	Tonight, eight women in total have accused Franken of sexual misconduct.
	The first, radio host Leanne Tweeden, who released this photo.
	I think today's revelations just further add to a fact pattern here that's just unacceptable.
	Franken has apologized and promised to make amends.
	I know there are no magic words that I can say to regain your trust.
	But tonight, the trust of his colleagues now appears lost for good.
	All right, Mary Bruce, live back on the Hill again tonight.
	And Mary, you've been working your sources.
	What do we know about this promised announcement from Senator Franken?
	Well, David Franken's office tonight says no final decision has been made, but multiple Democratic sources tell us he is in fact expected to announce his resignation tomorrow.
	Okay, a troll room update.
	Apparently he announced his future resignation, whatever that means, or his pending resignation.
	What does that mean?
	I don't know.
	And now it's time for your sexual harassment update.
	Yes, it is.
	Well, here's what I was looking at this, and now, of course, and I think this may be true, but Tom Arnold brought it up into a series of tweets, and now everybody's tweeting about it, and it was discussed in Deadline Hollywood, the online publication I think is owned by Variety, that Roger Stone's behind this whole thing.
	Yeah, I heard about that.
	It could be.
	I mean, he's that kind of guy, I guess.
	Well, it makes sense because the one thing that Stone...
	Stone is one of those guys who can't just do stuff and shut up about it.
	Yeah, he has to take credit all the time.
	And that is a weakness, but you have to look for the cues.
	And it was actually mentioned in this Atlantic article, which I want to discuss, which is titled, I Believe Franken's Accusers Because He Groped Me Too.
	Right.
	And it has a subhead, which I think is misleading, which is the Democrat Party needs to stand with women who have been harassed and not defend the politicians who abused them.
	Who are the politicians they've been defending?
	The Democrats?
	Yeah.
	What male politicians have been defended so far?
	Not really any, I guess.
	No, of course not.
	None.
	This article goes on to another woman who...
	I want to just read a couple things.
	Here's a sentence.
	In this article, Roger Stone had tweeted that the touchy Franken was about to be exposed six hours before the story dropped.
	And that's to me is like, okay, this is Stone again, either didn't know about it in advance, and so I think that that was the giveaway that he may be behind this whole thing, and he manipulated the woman tweeting.
	But I'm going to read a few quotes from the woman who wrote this article, who is a, I don't know, she sounds like kind of a tough chick, and Tina Dupuis, a radio thing.
	You should take a look at her.
	I'm going to.
	Is she hot?
	She's very pretty.
	T-U-P-U-Y. Yes.
	Oh, yeah.
	I see.
	She has a radio show?
	You sure she's not a podcaster?
	No.
	No, she has a radio show, I think.
	She looks like a podcaster.
	But she's like the tie.
	She goes running up to Franken and she wants a picture for her mom, according to the article, and he grabs her around the waist.
	He doesn't grab her ass.
	He grabs her around the waist and squeezes a couple of times.
	I'm going to read a couple of quotes.
	Here's a background.
	Not that I had an interest in politics and grandstanding.
	She puts that in there.
	Kind of a guilty thing.
	I'm not a grandstander.
	I'm not trying to do this.
	That's never a good thing.
	Never do that.
	Noting that I had an interest in politics and in grandstanding at 14, I ran a scorched earth campaign to make the entire group home I lived in recycle my faucet.
	District Goff and Representative George Miller.
	Anyway, so she's not like a naive.
	We also have to make a distinction between something that is done within a power structure, such as an employer, employee, any other type of relationship where one party has some form of power over the other, and just being a douchebag.
	I mean, there are some subtle differences.
	It doesn't mean that he isn't still a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	We'll assume he's a douchebag.
	But we have to also, you know, be a little more tolerant in this.
	She comes rushing up to him by her own accounts because she wants to get a selfie for her mom.
	And so she, you know, she runs up.
	I need a picture with you and me.
	And I don't know if you've had pictures taken with a group of people.
	Your arms are cut.
	You're either going to be scrunched up and look like an idiot or you put your arms around them.
	So you put your arms.
	He puts his arm around her.
	He says, Then she says, I'm reading now.
	We pose for the shot.
	He immediately put his hand on my waist, grabbing a handful of flesh.
	I froze.
	Then he squeezed at least twice.
	Okay, well, she froze.
	Whatever.
	Then she says, and this is interesting, I've been married for two years at the time.
	I didn't let my husband touch me like that in public because I believe it diminishes me as a professional woman.
	So here's a woman who is a grandstander, but she won't let her husband put his arm around her and give her a kind of a squeeze.
	A little boob tweak.
	Come on.
	It wasn't a boob tweak.
	It was around his waist or her waist.
	There's no boob tweak.
	I'm just saying, if she doesn't like her husband to put his arm around her the way Franken did and give her a little...
	A little squeeze.
	What kind of a marriage is this?
	I don't want to comment on that.
	I don't know.
	And then she says, she says this event, which nobody apparently noticed but her.
	She says, it shrunk me.
	It's like I was no longer a person, only ornamental.
	Well, here it is, John.
	The problem is the differences in what douchebags are doing.
	And I think it turns out to be that there's more douchebag men in the world than not when it comes to women.
	I disagree.
	I think there's a lot of them.
	You just said they're the majority.
	I think they are.
	But I'm not saying necessarily that they're grabbing or doing anything like that, but they speak in degrading tones without maybe even realizing it.
	But yeah, I think the majority of men do that.
	I do.
	Okay, good.
	I'm glad.
	Yeah, I thought about it.
	Like, you know, every guy I know, and obviously we could be shoved into any category, but, you know, we're doing a show and it's a little different.
	I don't walk around town talking like this and say, hey, is she hot?
	Oh, wait a minute.
	I actually do.
	Well, yeah, I guess with the two of us, you're right.
	You're definitely that way.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Hmm.
	Let me just finish this.
	Yeah.
	And so she goes on and she says that diminished her, you don't matter, and I do.
	He wanted to cop a feel and he demonstrated he didn't need my permission.
	You know, she throws him, and there's a picture of the two of them, and he's their head-to-head kind of a shot.
	Right.
	She didn't have to do that, and she's leaning into him.
	Yeah.
	Nearly 20 years ago during the Kenneth Starr investigation, President Bill Clinton, I was taking night classes.
	Now listen to this.
	She won't let her husband give her a public squeeze, but listen to this.
	Yeah.
	I was taking night classes, waiting tables, and chasing boys who look like Ricky Martin.
	Okay.
	I mean, this woman has got to get her acting.
	That's what she's saying?
	She's saying, I was chasing boys who look like Ricky Martin?
	That's kind of sexist.
	That's what she said.
	That's sexist.
	Yeah, totally sexist.
	So she's a psycho.
	Just leave it at that.
	All right.
	But we got a nasty note from somebody from the newsletter, one of our female listeners, who said, we're a couple of pigs for suggesting that two guys can make any...
	Can make any commentary on sexual harassment.
	You know what?
	If I saw one woman who was making a good commentary, then it wouldn't be necessary.
	But it's not.
	In fact, I'm going to jump ahead just a tad here.
	Let me grab this.
	Where did I put this?
	Here we go.
	Oh, man.
	Keep going.
	I'll find it.
	It's in a different category.
	I've got to find it now.
	All right.
	Well, anyway, the point is that this Franken thing, I've suggested, using the power of Twitter, that he not resign and realize that he is being, the Democrats bring it up all the time, he is being bullied.
	This is bullying.
	Not all of it.
	It's all bullying.
	The fact that you had the clip, I had the clip, that this thing was a group of women starting off that were ganging up on him and bullying him.
	He's being bullied by women.
	Well, let's listen to two of them.
	This is Lois Frankel, Democrat from Florida.
	This Congress, with a unanimous voice vote...
	I passed a resolution that mandates anti-sexual harassment training for members and staff.
	Well, of course it's about time.
	But here's the thing, Mr.
	Speaker.
	It is pitiful and embarrassing That a member of Congress would need an instructive manual that tells them that they must keep their pants on in their office.
	What's wrong with that?
	What we need is to create an environment, an environment of a safe and respectful workplace and policies and procedures that will allow victims to come forward, to be fully compensated, for members to be held accountable, and to have fair due process.
	That is the thing that I believe is lacking in a lot of this.
	Because when, you know, Franken was also, one of the more recent allegations was anonymous.
	I think that's an issue.
	That's the latest mouth-kissing, tongue-in-the-mouth event, I think.
	Right.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	But when it's anonymous, you know, I mean, it's not a court case, but when you're anonymous, it doesn't work that way.
	I mean, we even have a Sixth Amendment that says that, you know, you have the right to face your witnesses and accusers of whatever crime.
	Yeah, but this is witch hunts different.
	Well, yes, it is.
	And that's exactly my point.
	A witch hunt is very different.
	You know, and it can be applied anywhere.
	And this is kind of my point.
	If you listen to this, this is just a quick, quick, quick hit here.
	This was on some Democratic strategist that Tucker Carlson had on us.
	The only thing that's important is what she says right in the beginning.
	And I've talked, discussed this with several women.
	Last thing I want to do is put myself in a position to appear to defend Al Franken, whom I know well and have never cared for.
	Don't think he was a good senator.
	I think he's kind of creepy.
	This is all plausible as far as I'm concerned.
	But I'm very struck by a couple of things, and one is the pivot that the entire Democratic conference in the Senate seems to have made.
	A year and a half ago they were defending Hillary Clinton, who everyone knows attacked The women who accused her husband of sexual harassment and assault.
	She attacked them, belittled them, and they were defending her.
	And today they're saying, on the basis of anonymous accusations, that they can't even bear to serve with Al Franken.
	Where were they a year and a half ago?
	So there's a couple things wrong with that statement.
	First, I think we can all agree that we'd be better off if the women were in charge.
	Really?
	Because I see...
	See, that statement right there, I hear over and over again.
	We all know, as if it's a fact, that things would run much better if or when women are in charge.
	And that's...
	And I'd like you to ISO that.
	I can't do it right now, but I will.
	Okay.
	And, first of all, I think they truly believe it.
	They truly believe it.
	Oh, yeah.
	And it was interesting.
	I was talking with Tina last night.
	And, you know, she says, well, you know, yeah, give women a chance.
	And I said, well, I just want to...
	Do you know how many...
	Female CEOs there are, Fortune 500 companies, and she was quite surprised when I gave her the list.
	And I'll just give you the list real quick.
	Mary Barra, CEO of General Motors.
	Ginny Romney, CEO of IBM. We have Nui Lindra Nui, who is CEO of...
	We have PepsiCo.
	We have Marilyn Hewson, CEO of Lockheed Martin.
	These are not small companies.
	Meg Whitman, of course, HP. We have Safra Katz of Oracle.
	I mean, the list goes on and on.
	Oh, no, it's a huge list, and the companies are monsters.
	Lockheed Martin being the most impressive.
	Yeah.
	Have you ever seen this woman?
	No one has ever seen her.
	No.
	And that's what Tina said.
	She said, Well, no one ever talks about that.
	All you hear is the feminists saying that we get no shot.
	I said, well, clearly something's working within corporate America.
	I mean, it's not in no means in the majority, but it's not like these are small...
	No, I'm actually stunned that she didn't know all this.
	In fact, I think it's probably pretty common.
	Exactly.
	They'll shake their fist, but then at the same time, hey, what are you going to do?
	I mean, these women are running these companies.
	And in some cases, like Ginny's at IBM, she's running it into the ground.
	She's not doing a good job at all.
	The company hasn't made a nickel since she's been there.
	Yeah, and let's not talk about my favorite over there, Yahoo.
	I was really rooting for her, Marissa.
	Oh, I was never rooting for her.
	I was always rooting for her.
	I wanted her to win.
	I wanted her to win.
	I like her.
	Yeah, well, I found that...
	What did she ever do before she got this job?
	She jumps from...
	Being a kind of an ambassador for Google, gets to go to all the conferences and look pretty.
	And then they just make her a CEO of one of these incredibly large company out of the blue.
	And everyone's, oh, yes, yes.
	Oh, no.
	How about letting her pay a few dues and maybe getting a few jobs in between?
	They jerk her right to the top.
	And then they give her like a $50 million golden handcuffs.
	And she's like, she's a rich girl now.
	I mean, she's going to be the most eligible in town.
	Well, I think she's married.
	There are a couple other cases that have come to light.
	One is Shervin Peshevar.
	He's at Sherpa Capital.
	And he's been accused of sexual harassment.
	John Travolta's biopic of Gotti, supposed to be released, I think, in a week, pulled off the slate.
	And that's a pretty big...
	Let me see.
	His wife is in there, Kelly Preston, Stacey Keech, Kevin Connolly.
	There's probably some...
	It's probably going to be a decent movie, but they're not taking any risk.
	And then in our ongoing...
	What is the risk?
	The risk is that the way things are going, you can't say to somebody...
	So Travolta, it hasn't really quite popped open because it's a gay thing.
	Well, that's coming, but I still want to know what's the risk.
	They roll the movie out and they're going to get protests?
	Yes, people will not go to the movie.
	Well, that's different.
	That's what I'm saying.
	That's why they won't roll it out.
	Do you think the risk is that this great movie, like you just said, might come out and people aren't going to go to it?
	They're not going to go out of curiosity?
	I'd say more people would go to it.
	No, I don't think so.
	I'd make the opposite argument.
	Okay.
	Well, they've chosen this path.
	Then we have another Netflix, and as you know, we see that this is, we believe this may be being misused by the big broadcasters and studios to get rid of all those horrible video-on-demand a-holes.
	And this is, let me see, Danny Masterson.
	He is on...
	He was named early.
	Well, he has now been fired from the ranch amidst rape allegations.
	The ranch is a Netflix show.
	And I like this.
	Did you know that the Met Opera has suspended conductor James Levine?
	Now that you mention it, let's just skip this one by one and go to Democracy Now!
	with their sex rundown, which includes this and more.
	Okay.
	Here we go.
	He did not perpetrate sexual misconduct toward me, nor have I ever claimed that.
	But I now know for sure that he is a liar.
	The Moore campaign said Trump told Moore in a phone call from Air Force One on Monday, quote, go get him, Roy.
	On Capitol Hill, Texas Republican Congressmember Blake Farenthold said he'll return $84,000 to taxpayers after news emerged that he used a congressional fund to settle a sexual harassment settlement claim filed by his former communications director, Lauren Green.
	Green says she's been forced to resort to babysitting and other odd jobs to make ends meet after Farenthold blackballed her from politics when she accused him of sexual harassment, gender discrimination, and creating a hostile work environment.
	Meanwhile, another Texas Republican, 68-year-old Joe Barton, said Monday he's retiring from Congress over a naked selfie that's appeared on social media amidst revelations of extramarital affairs.
	Wow, that guy got screwed, huh?
	Yeah.
	I mean, that's the stuff that I'm worried about, is that people, I mean, it was between two consenting adults.
	Whether he's cheating on his wife or not is irrelevant.
	It may be relevant in an election, you know, what someone's character is.
	Well, the naked picture didn't help.
	No, the way he looked in the picture didn't help.
	...on social media amidst revelations of extramarital affairs.
	Barton's retirement paves the way for a special election in Texas' 6th District.
	In Detroit, Congressmember John Conyers is expected to announce today he will not resign from the House, but will not run for re-election.
	Multiple women accuse Conyers of sexually harassing or groping them, charges he denies.
	House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and other top Democrats have called on Conyers to step down.
	Conyers' grandnephew, Michigan State Senator Ian Conyers, is expected to announce he'll run for John Conyers' seat in 2018.
	Netflix says it will resume production of its popular House of Cards series without former lead actor Kevin Spacey after more than a dozen men accused Spacey of sex.
	Holy moly!
	I didn't know that!
	Yeah.
	Oh, man!
	I guess they're going to kill him off.
	And clearly it's such a successful show for them that they need to do something, and yeah.
	Well, I don't think it's even that.
	I mean, the ratings were dropping, but I think what was going on is that People are going to get irked if they didn't finish the thing with an ending.
	They got to end it.
	Oh, okay.
	You're going to watch this thing year after year after year, binge, binge, binge, and then they just stop it?
	Stop it.
	Yeah, that's it.
	We don't care about sexual harassment.
	You have to end our binge watching.
	It's popular House of Cards series without former lead actor Kevin Spacey.
	After more than a dozen men accused Spacey of sexually harassing or assaulting them, Robin Wright will star in a shortened eight-episode final season of the show.
	Elsewhere, the School of American Ballet has removed its longtime teacher, Peter Martins, while the school and the New York City Ballet conducted joint investigation into a sexual harassment claim against him.
	In New York City, John Hockenberry, the recently retired host of public radio station WNYC's The Takeaway, has been accused of sexual harassment, unwanted touching and bullying by several female colleagues.
	And Vice Media has fired three of its employees over what the company called verbal and sexual harassment and other unspecified behavior.
	Oh, what a great list.
	And here's the interesting thing about Hockenberry.
	He's in a wheelchair.
	Oh, hey.
	So?
	Doesn't mean he can't harass.
	Equal opportunity.
	Who knew?
	Yeah, who knew?
	Wow.
	And by the way, there is a Sacramento kicker, which you probably should play, which has actually followed this report.
	The sexacto kicker.
	Sacramento, huh?
	And in Sacramento, California, lobbyist Pamela Lopez has named Democratic Assemblyman Matt Dabavne of Los Angeles as the lawmaker who sexually assaulted her, forcing her into a Las Vegas hotel bathroom last year and masturbating in front of her.
	Dabavne has denied the allegation.
	This is Pamela Lopez speaking from her office on Monday.
	This is a moment of collective action.
	Many women have stepped forward and said, me too.
	I've been sexually harassed or I've been sexually assaulted.
	Wait.
	What?
	She said workplace.
	Oh, she said workplace?
	I thought she said workplace.
	Well, I don't know.
	Maybe I'm wrong.
	Let me listen again.
	Place.
	Yeah, place.
	She says place.
	Sexually assaulted in my workplace, and it's taken courage for them to do that.
	Yo.
	Yeah.
	What is it with guys who think it...
	No, wait.
	Stop.
	Stop.
	This is a serious mental condition that I don't understand.
	You're talking about the guys who grab these women, make them...
	And by the way, how do you do that?
	You're kind of busy, it seems to me.
	You've got one hand...
	You know, doing something.
	Are you holding the other one?
	It doesn't make sense that they have to sit there and watch.
	Well, they just throw something at the guy and walk out.
	Kick him in the balls.
	Kick him in the balls.
	But this is the point, John.
	I think this is helping women.
	No, it's not.
	But this is the point.
	If it's your boss, if it's in a workplace situation, you don't feel that brave necessarily.
	Maybe now women will.
	I hope so.
	She was a lobbyist.
	Doesn't mean that she's not, that she wouldn't be afraid.
	Just because lobbyists are cutthroat a-holes doesn't mean that she didn't have issues when this took place.
	I can understand it.
	I remember when I was sexually harassed.
	Hashtag me too.
	I was hitchhiking.
	I was like 14, hitchhiking home from school.
	Can't believe my parents let me do that.
	And a car stopped, got in the front, we're driving, and it was probably about a 25-minute drive, and the guy starts massaging his crotch.
	And I see it out of the corner of my eye.
	Exactly.
	Woo!
	The beaches are open!
	And I see it out of the corner.
	I must be mistaken.
	Maybe it was just a little adjustment or something.
	And I remember he said, hey, you know, we could always pull over.
	And I'm like, yeah, pull over.
	Let me out now.
	He said, well, but don't worry.
	Now, let me out.
	And I got out.
	But I was shaking.
	I was really shaken.
	It was just because he was basically doing the same thing.
	It's frightening.
	Yeah, well, it's creepy.
	It is.
	Now, though, it's getting very interesting.
	This is a great time to be alive.
	Great time to be a podcaster.
	It's a great time to be a podcaster.
	Facebook is deleting posts, and I believe maybe Twitter as well, of women calling men scum or trash...
	Are now being deleted by either the content deletion team or some algo as hate speech.
	It is hate speech.
	It is, but I don't give a crap.
	It shouldn't be deleted.
	Well, it ruins our show because we like to read from Facebook.
	We do.
	Do you have anything?
	Maybe later.
	Okay, good.
	Okay.
	So, well, speaking of, Gene Simmons was on, I think he was on the BBC. I don't know why.
	He gets invited on the oddest shows, and he likes going on them.
	And so they were talking about the Me Too, hashtag Me Too campaign, the sexual harassment, etc.
	And, you know, but he was, I guess the topic was, you know, you're kind of a douchebag.
	Especially when you boast about this.
	There's a photograph of, you know, 4,800 women that he supposedly had sex with.
	And this came up in the conversation.
	He didn't touch drugs.
	The women, though, that sort of third element of the rock and roll lifestyle, you really went to town there.
	It's all true.
	4,800 women is supposedly your...
	Gene Simmons, hero of douchebags everywhere.
	4,800 women is supposedly your record, your tally.
	You know, one or two, whatever that is, yeah.
	And there was a point.
	I know your wife made you burn the Polaroids that you said were the proof of the 4,800.
	Publicly.
	It was a public thing.
	It was not a secret.
	Alright, now the conversation goes into the Me Too.
	You will know the hashtag Me Too, where women are calling out behavior where they have suffered in the past sexual harassment at the hands of men.
	And your name has appeared in a couple of tweets.
	Why would I want to do anything?
	Look, I'm not even going to hold up the hypothetical.
	Nothing happened.
	All of a sudden, 44 years on in a rock band, somebody's coming up and saying, this guy's a bad guy.
	It's not true.
	I think the climate is horrifically bad, and yet at the same time empowering to the right women.
	There are some really bad guys out there.
	I just happen not to be one of them.
	When you read what women are saying happened to them, what do you think about the culture that...
	You lived through, in one sense, everybody lived through.
	The women who are going after the Weinsteins of the world, they should go to the cops.
	The police are here and the court system is here for you to do what the women did with Bill Cosby.
	You have a complaint?
	Go to the cops.
	Going to the court of public opinion on social media is maybe exactly happened the way it happened.
	Why don't you get yourself a lawyer and But isn't there a question of changing the culture, the kind of stuff that maybe you don't go to the police over, but you just think, I'm going to call this out because women don't have to accept it any longer.
	And what about the, there's an organization here in England, I saw it yesterday on a chat show, a woman heads it, about the victims, you know, the men who are committing suicide, who are wrongly accused of all kinds of nonsense.
	What about them?
	What, do you think it's gone too far?
	Do you think it's unfair?
	No, it's not.
	I'm not saying it's gone too far and not enough.
	I'm saying go to the cops.
	And maybe they'll feel like they can do that now.
	Maybe there will be.
	Well, I think they can always do it, but the cops half the time don't pay any attention to this sort of thing.
	There's that?
	The guy did what?
	He took me to the bathroom and then he jerked off.
	Okay.
	Did he grab you?
	Did he hurt you?
	Are you bruised?
	Is there legal recourse against that?
	Someone does that?
	I don't know.
	Maybe.
	I mean, yeah, lewd behavior.
	I don't know, but I'm sure it's low on the list of priorities, especially in California where you have...
	Listen to this.
	This has got nothing to do with the sexual thing, but I want to play this clip.
	This is about the people getting...
	In California, if you put something in your car, the window gets broken and stuff gets stolen.
	Listen to this Prop 47 report local.
	Okay.
	Just be aware.
	The real risk in this is when you go out to your car and you just put your bags in your car and then you go back in the shop.
	You wouldn't do that?
	Well, if it's in plain sight, I mean, it doesn't take anything to break somebody's window and get in.
	So now some of the SUVs have little covers for that back area.
	Do you think that deters them?
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	It's easy, it's fast, and Sergeant Nelson says it doesn't really come with enough serious consequences.
	The voters of California have essentially decriminalized theft, especially if it's less than $1,000.
	So the risk-reward for the criminal is definitely there for them.
	So if someone steals from you $900 in stuff, what could they get?
	It's a low misdemeanor now.
	I mean, you might spend the night in jail.
	That's it.
	From my experience, this is why you're seeing this rash of car break-ins in San Francisco and Oakland and a lot of places.
	There's no punishment that goes with that crime anymore.
	The old days, you know, you'd get 30 days or 60 days, or if you kept doing it, you know, six months in the county lockup.
	That doesn't happen anymore for that.
	So in the mind of a criminal, though, you're trying to do whatever you can do to get stuff with the least possible consequence.
	The least amount of resistance, consequence, and chance of getting caught.
	Wait a minute.
	Is this a local California law?
	It's a California Prop 47.
	The voters of California voted that shoplifting, petty theft, robbery, anything that's under $1,000 is a misdemeanor that's just punishable by a day in jail.
	Wow.
	I didn't know this either.
	I mean, I remember.
	I just voted no on most of these things, so I probably voted no on it.
	But I don't quite remember when this happened, but apparently it did, and this guy's bitching about it.
	I think rightly so.
	And this is the thing, because the cops are the ones who push these things.
	Too much work!
	And so the same thing when somebody says, well, this guy took me in the bathroom and jerked off.
	Oh, do I have to file paperwork on this?
	Hmm.
	Hmm.
	Who was behind this Prop 47?
	I don't know.
	I have to look into it.
	I just got this clip yesterday.
	I'd be interested to know what the thinking is behind that.
	Police paperwork.
	So the police just put a bill and everyone went like, well, sounds good to me.
	Come on, people voted on it.
	I'm pretty sure this would not have been passed if it wasn't for...
	Wow.
	The police are endorsing it.
	I'm sure of it.
	I'd be stunned if that wasn't the case.
	Wow.
	Or the district attorneys or the other ones who don't want to do anything.
	You know, unless they got some guy they could, you know, railroad and make a big deal out of some, you know, poor bastard who did some copyright to that, let's say.
	Right.
	And they'll make a stink about that because they can make, you know, hate.
	We know people have gone to jail for very innocuous white collar crimes.
	Yeah.
	That involve no money.
	Bust your window, take your stuff, and, you know, too bad.
	They won't even bother taking a report.
	Wow.
	Then we had the Time Person of the Year 2017.
	Well, I happen to have the clip of the Today Show where this was revealed with the editor of Time Magazine, if you want to play that.
	Sure.
	What's it called?
	Well, that's a good question.
	Uh...
	Time Person of the Year.
	About to come.
	The answer to the question we've all been asking, who will be Time's Person of the Year?
	Edward Feldenthal, Time's Editor-in-Chief, is here to reveal the pic.
	Good morning, Edward.
	Good morning.
	All right, we kept the secret.
	We kept the secret.
	Just real quickly, was this a hard decision or an easy decision this year?
	Well, you know, this is the 91st year we've named a person of the year.
	It's always hard.
	But I think it was especially hard this year, a year of so much disruption in the United States and around the world.
	We're going to count down.
	We're going to keep the anticipation going.
	Number three on your list, the president of China.
	Xi Jinping.
	He has consolidated power in his own country to a degree not seen in decades.
	And even more importantly, he's made very clear that he intends for China to lead the world and step into the breach as the U.S. retrenches.
	The runner-up, President Donald Trump.
	First of all, your rationale.
	And second of all, he had tweeted that Time wanted him to be the person of the year and he rejected you.
	Want to set the record straight on that?
	Well, he's number two on our list because he has changed the very nature of the presidency and the way the White House functions.
	He's on the verge of his first major legislative victory.
	He's reshaping the judiciary and aggressively rolling back regulations.
	The tweet, as we said, wasn't correct.
	In fact, we did the photo shoot for the reveal we were about to do five days before the tweet.
	We didn't say probably, but you know how it goes.
	I think it's time for the big reveal, so I'm going to let you do the honors.
	Who is Time's Person of the Year?
	The 2017 Person of the Year is the Silence Breakers, the voices that launched a movement.
	This is the fastest moving social change we've seen in decades, and it began with individual acts of courage by hundreds of women and some men, too, who came forward to tell their own stories of sexual harassment and assault.
	We see celebrities on your cover, but most importantly, perhaps, we see someone whose face is obscured.
	This is the woman whose name we don't know, the woman who came forward bravely or is thinking about doing so.
	I just want to say one thing off the bat, and I kind of pulled a Dvorak yesterday and I was misunderstood.
	The time person...
	With who?
	With Tina.
	Oh, okay.
	Which is why I'm nuancing it now.
	The time person of the year.
	I'm a little tired of it not being a person.
	I mean, this has happened several times in the past.
	It's not a person.
	Then it's global warming or some other thing.
	It's like...
	Why can't it be a person?
	I like the whole idea.
	Look, first of all, we know they do this for one reason and one reason only.
	It's not for some big social justice warrior crap.
	It's to sell ads.
	Yeah.
	It's a special edition.
	Rose McGowan on there.
	Yeah.
	But I got the biggest kick out of it.
	The main person was...
	What's her name?
	That horrible...
	Excuse me.
	What's the name of the woman that's front and center in that picture?
	Actress?
	Yes, of the sisters.
	Yeah, the sisters.
	Yeah, the sisters.
	So next to her is Taylor Swift.
	I just thought that was hilarious.
	Taylor Swift was not part of the Me Too anything.
	She just sued some guy for grabbing her ass.
	Well, no, I think she's...
	Look, the fact that she's in there, I'm very...
	Look, I'm Team Tay-Tay.
	And I said look twice in a row.
	I'm Team Tay-Tay.
	You're saying look a lot.
	Thank you.
	I just called myself out.
	No need to pile jump.
	Could you stop coughing?
	No.
	Get a lozenge.
	Or a cough button.
	There's an idea.
	A cough button wouldn't work with this mic.
	Yeah, oh, you're right.
	Anyway, anywho...
	I mean, XLR. Anywho.
	Yes, anywho what?
	Yes, anywho.
	I'm very happy that Taylor Swift was included.
	Now, naturally, they do that for reasons of discussion and ratings because a lot of people got triggered because, hey, look, she's a white supremacist.
	We all know this.
	She hasn't spoken out against Trump.
	How can she possibly be there?
	But...
	Because she was with the hashtag MeToo women in Time Magazine, now it's good for her.
	And I like her.
	I like what she said in court.
	And that guy, that DJ's a douche.
	And there's a whole category of douche DJs out there.
	Ah, all of them.
	Pretty much.
	Yeah.
	Pretty much.
	It's a generality you can make.
	So I'm very happy for her.
	I am.
	I am.
	But for me, it's like, okay, I keep asking, now what?
	And the way I see it is, this is going to continue for a long time.
	And the women of the United States, for sure, of Gitmo Nation, but probably of the world, as this spreads...
	We'll be calling out men everywhere, and men will get fired, shamed, etc.
	And in most cases, rightfully so.
	And I'm telling you right now that the women of the world are sorry if someone gets wrongly accused, but they really don't care.
	And I understand where they're coming from.
	And the good thing is...
	Okay, where are they coming from?
	A lifetime of being harassed.
	A lifetime.
	Yes, and it's subtle things, John.
	It's small and subtle things.
	Yeah, I hear it on the show.
	You said so yourself.
	Um...
	Well, I think they're abusing the situation, but that's okay.
	They can do what they want.
	It's up to them.
	Although I'd like to see men and women a little more kind of in the same team.
	Well, yes.
	Yes.
	And because now we're getting into a situation where men aren't going to say anything.
	Why do you think there's a rise of sex robots?
	Hello?
	Look, guys are already...
	Apparently, there's a huge group of men who are already happy just jerking off in front of you.
	I'm sure the sex robot takes care of all of their urges.
	Yeah.
	Hey, the sex robots are a pretty one.
	Apparently, there's a Channel 4 documentary that I haven't been able to get on the YouTubes yet about the sex robots.
	I want to see that.
	So on the Today Show, this clip is a medley of complaints that they ran.
	Because they had the woman who started the Me Too movement, by the way, and that Me Too hashtag thing was in 2006.
	A black woman came up with it and it just caught on again.
	So 10 years later.
	But here's the medley of complaints.
	And I think there's a couple of gems in here.
	This is just various women...
	Complaining in very short snippets and they run this on the Today Show.
	I think people forget a lot that there's a human behind this.
	When you go through something as traumatic as sexual violence, there's a way that you close up.
	Who were we supposed to tell?
	Were we supposed to call some fantasy attorney general of moviedom?
	And we're conditioned since birth, before our feet hit the ground, to be polite.
	Politeness kills.
	To be kind, to be liked, to not make waves.
	That has to stop.
	There wasn't a place for us to report these experiences.
	I am here to give you permission to be angry.
	Having somebody else connect with you and say, you're not alone in that, it just frees you.
	It frees you from the shame.
	I always thought maybe things could change for my daughter.
	I never thought things could change for me.
	From a very young age that it's important that not only they take care of women, but that they are respectful and that they understand that there are things that are not okay.
	Hopefully we will have the next generation of people that are very mindful and are being shown respect and will give it in return.
	I think women are starting to believe we don't have to just live like this.
	Me Too can be a conversation starter or it can be the whole conversation.
	It is a socio-political, cultural, gender revolution.
	Why not fight back?
	What else are we doing?
	And I get every single one of them.
	What I don't get, now that I listen to that thing again, is why Megyn Kelly, who really is one of the people that started this ball rolling, if not McCallum, isn't on that cover.
	Well, they should, yeah.
	McCallum, for sure.
	Martha McCallum, she's the one who got the big settlement and can't get work anymore.
	John, we already put Taylor Swift in.
	We can't go too crazy with the white nationalists and the Fox News bimbos.
	Yeah, no Fox News bimbos.
	No Fox News bimbos for you.
	No.
	All right, I got one more clip about this whole thing.
	It's going back to Matt Lauer.
	There is page six, which is the gossip sheet on the New York Daily Post.
	Yes, and Liz Smith used to write that, and she just died.
	Yes, she did.
	She was the editor of it.
	And they have decided, because it's so easy to do, they're going to do a TV show...
	With some of their guys, because they saw TMZ, and golly, it can't be that hard if TMZ can do it.
	And so they have this kind of mock TMZ thing with just the host is okay, and then there's some gay black guy who's just, you know, kind of, he's okay, and then there's kind of a dimwit.
	Seeming, unless she gives reports, and then there's a black woman, and she never says anything.
	He said, yeah!
	And so they talk about Matt Lauer here in this clip, and this is the Page Six TV on Lauer.
	A lot more about the other side of Matt Lauer that no one knew about.
	He was spotted recently in East Hampton with his family when all of these details came out.
	We know, we reported it exclusively at Page Six, that he drove to East Hampton where his wife lives with his children to talk to his oldest son about what was coming out in the headlines because he wanted him to hear it from his father.
	But there's another side of Matt Lauer that we now know, that he's a very He's a deviant sexual predator, essentially.
	That's what a lot of women are accusing him of.
	And sources have told me that he belongs to this boy club, a very powerful, rich man who are entertainers.
	We're looking at you, Jeff Zucker.
	You're on deck.
	He's goth with them.
	And I'm told that they indulge in kinky behavior and act extremely inappropriate toward women.
	Who is this guy?
	I'm told.
	Really?
	Who is this guy?
	I'm told.
	I'm told.
	Really?
	Come on, man.
	You know they do.
	Men who are entertainers.
	He plays golf with them.
	And I'm told that they indulge in kinky behavior and act extremely inappropriate toward women.
	Wow.
	Carlos, I actually just got the chills when you said men that he plays golf with because this is your reporting, your sourcing, nothing that I had to do with.
	And that sounds eerily similar to one of the women.
	Who is this person who talks like crazy?
	She's the dingbat.
	When you said men that he plays golf with because this is your reporting, your sourcing, nothing that I had to do with.
	And that sounds eerily similar to one of the women that I spoke to when I was investigating this story.
	One of the women who used to work with Matt Lauer, and I want to say it was in the old regime.
	It was a long time ago, way back when Brian Gumbel was there.
	Right.
	She told me that it was very difficult for women at the Today Show because it was a total boys club and they would all play golf together.
	And she said, if you're a woman, how could you compete with these men when they all have their little clique, they play golf, they talk about the women.
	She even told me an example one time.
	She was on assignment and she was traveling and she had a cold sore, which she didn't think was a big deal because that happened.
	Yeah.
	And she overheard Matt Lauer talking to Bryant Gumbel about how gross her cold sore looks, and it made her feel really bad, and she said it's just cruel.
	And the exact quote she told me was, it was such shame with not being liked by Matt Lauer at the Today Show if you were a woman.
	Okay, well there's your report from page six.
	And that's their TV show?
	Oh my gosh.
	I think they tried to make it a TV show.
	I think it's only on the web.
	It's a podcast.
	It's a podcast.
	That may actually be a netcast.
	I'm not sure.
	I don't think that's just a podcast.
	Well, here's my final conclusion for today.
	As I said, this is going to continue, and there's a very interesting combination we have now of social justice warrior movement, of not offending anybody, and not tolerating being offended.
	I predict women are going to start ratting out women on stuff.
	It won't be of sexual nature, but we're creating a culture where everybody's going to be afraid to do anything.
	And you watch.
	Women will be ratting out other women for just other stuff.
	This is where it's going.
	Yeah, here's what I... You want to hear my prediction?
	Sure.
	This whole thing...
	I'm going to get the lozenge out for my time.
	This whole thing blows over once the Alabama election's over and we go back to Russia or Mueller or something else.
	This is a...
	This whole thing was designed just to get...
	Judge Moore not elected in Alabama...
	By keeping this as a bubbling issue.
	It's going to just drop dead.
	Really?
	Yeah, that's what I think.
	After the election, after the election in Alabama, this will be a second-tier story, then third, then gone.
	And this concludes your sexual harassment update.
	There you go, your sexual harassment update.
	I did want to follow that up with another type of award.
	Well, not really award, but we had the Time Person of the Year.
	The Grammy nominations just came out.
	And this is very interesting along these same social justice warrior lines.
	On NPR's, I believe, On Point with Tom Ashbrook.
	He had on his resident music expert to come in and discuss the nominations and we discover something that is not only Remarkable, but it actually makes everyone gleeful do you lock it?
	What are the headlines of the Grammy nominations?
	Hey, you I don't know anything about pop culture.
	He lock it.
	What are the headlines of the Grammy nominations this year?
	So it's a big year for rap and R&B One of the big stories is the album of the year category There are no white men nominated in this category for the first time.
	First time ever at the, what, 60th Grammys?
	Wow, that's great!
	First time ever no white men nominated!
	I mean, that's progress!
	This is great!
	Nominated in this category for the first time.
	First time ever at the, what, 60th Grammys, I guess.
	Yes.
	Wow.
	Zero white men there and surprises in or out this year, Dee?
	So, one of the big surprises in that category is Childish Gambino getting a nomination for Album of the Year.
	Many people thought that that would have gone to Ed Sheeran because his album Division is one of the biggest of the year.
	Yeah, but he's a white guy, so eh.
	It's the highest-selling album of the year until Taylor Swift came along.
	Childish Gambino, a.k.a.
	Donald Glover.
	Yes.
	Yeah, okay.
	How's that sound, huh?
	Donald Glover is a rapper.
	Here's the next bit.
	I mean, it just kept on going.
	Everybody's so happy that the album of the year...
	I guess that's a really important category.
	I never really thought about it as the most important category, but I guess back when people bought albums...
	Album of the year.
	What's an album, Daddy?
	Before the unbundling of the album, and we brought tracks, or forget it, we just streamed stuff.
	Things are changing.
	Hip-hop, very big this year at the 60th Grammys.
	Oh, hip-hop, it's been around since the 80s.
	No white guy in the very top rank in country music.
	Shut out.
	I mean, how many white guy hip-hoppers does he know?
	Besides M&M, that would be pretty much one of the few.
	Vanilla Ice.
	Yeah.
	No white guy in the very top rank.
	And country music shut out.
	Oh, more white people!
	Top categories this year.
	Those favored rap and hip-hop.
	Pop not even doing so well.
	Taylor Swift, a Grammy favorite in past years, did not receive a nomination for her eligible singles.
	But she's up for two Grammys, one for Country Song of the Year.
	Here's the song she wrote, Better Man, by country group Little Big Town.
	Okay.
	Now, the audience of NPR... He's also delighted.
	Yeah, I got a quick comment and a question.
	So I'm in Boston.
	I work at a Boys and Girls Club.
	I'm a music director here.
	Awesome.
	In Dorchester.
	Great.
	And we are paying attention this year to the album of the year category.
	The fact that there are no white men on that list is very important to me.
	I am a white male.
	But we're actually voting and looking at the best album of the year.
	It's really important that there's a lot of hip-hop represented here, certainly with Kendrick and Jay-Z. Just make sure there's no white guys in there.
	Is it hip-hop?
	Why is this important to this guy?
	That sounded pretty rehearsed to me, honestly.
	Yes, but still, even rehearsed or not rehearsed, why is it important to him or anyone else?
	I believe he works with black kids.
	He's kind of racist, doesn't he?
	He works with non-white kids.
	The whole thing is, by definition, racist.
	It doesn't mean that it's no longer culturally accepted, because it is.
	One more listener.
	Somebody a couple of callers ago said, as a white man, I'm very concerned about the Grammys.
	I'm not sure exactly what he was saying.
	I think he was celebrating.
	I think he was celebrating the trend, Nico.
	Oh, good, good.
	That's what I was hoping.
	Oh, I was worried for a moment that we had a racist on NPR. Exactly what he was saying.
	I think he was celebrating.
	I think he was celebrating the trend, Nico.
	Oh, good, good.
	That's what I was hoping.
	I think that ended up being pretty clear.
	After all these years of people of color not being recognized, finally it's happening, and I think that's great.
	Jeez.
	Here's a band name for you.
	No White Men.
	Zero white men.
	That's even better, maybe.
	I'll give you Clip of the Day for that last one.
	Oh, that's very kind of you.
	I didn't expect that.
	Clip of the Day.
	I didn't expect to hear anything like that.
	It's crazy.
	By the way, let's give the blacks and the hip-hoppers and everybody in between...
	The blacks.
	Give all the credit and recognition they deserve in an era where the albums don't sell anymore and CD sales are down the drain and it doesn't help them a bit.
	How about maybe giving them some recognition 20 years ago?
	Oh yeah, you can't do that.
	That only works if you're a politician.
	You did something bad 40 years ago.
	You can't do it in music.
	It doesn't work that way.
	John, we live in interesting times.
	Podcasting times.
	Yes, and I will say I'm happy I'm a podcaster because no matter what someone might accuse me of, nothing can go wrong.
	I can fire you.
	Yeah, and you can't get much lower than podcasting.
	I mean, there's no lower rung on the showbiz ladder.
	No, I agree.
	We're there.
	We're there, baby.
	And also, I really like that you and I both know that no one has anything on us.
	I love that.
	I mean, it's paying off.
	I was a nice guy all my life, and now it's paying off.
	I'm not...
	There's got to be guys who are...
	Yeah, you could have been a complete, total, and dreadful douchebag.
	You're in the right position.
	You're in the right position as a podcaster to weather the storm.
	There's no storm to weather.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John, say where the C stands for Caucasian Dvorak.
	In the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water.
	All the dames and knights out there.
	Yes, in the morning to the troll room, noagendastream.com.
	Good to everybody here on board.
	Nice to see you.
	Thank you.
	Please stop inviting me to private chats on the troll room.
	I have nothing to say to you.
	What would somebody do that for?
	I don't know.
	It's for the same reason people...
	Again, I got an email.
	Hey, Adam, we'd really love for you and the No Agenda show to help with the homeless population in Austin.
	You know, like from a non-profit here.
	Oh, you got a form letter.
	No, no, people signing me up for stuff and sending emails.
	It's really annoying.
	Anyway, I do want to thank Cesium137 for bringing us the artwork for episode 9 or 8, 7.
	The title of that was Kebab Panic!
	And it was the douchebag e-meter, which was a nice mocked-up version of the Mathis meter that was deployed by the Church of Scientology.
	And it had an on-the-scale douchebag.
	And you set it to 33 cycles, and off it goes.
	By the way, in the show notes for today, I have the entire manual for the original Mathis e-meter.
	The E-meter?
	What about the fruit meter?
	That's what I mean.
	It's the psycho...
	Okay, the psycho...
	Psycho-electrometer, I think is what it is.
	It's very interesting.
	It's the instructions, you know, it's how to...
	It doesn't actually say, if the meter is here, this guy's gay.
	But it's used for...
	You know, the thing was, even then...
	Yes.
	Even then...
	It was used as a lie detector and other things of this ilk.
	So, it's very interesting, this history of Scandinavia with their fruit meter.
	Very interesting.
	It's fascinating.
	Well, I wouldn't say that.
	Well, unless you hear only about this stuff on the No Agenda show.
	This is true.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can upload your art.
	We always appreciate it.
	And remember, we got the big 1,000th episode on the way.
	I know people who are already working on art.
	Do we have a date for that yet?
	When is that taking place?
	If you have a calendar, we can figure it out.
	I do.
	I have a calendar.
	Let's see.
	So we have 989 Palindrome for Sunday.
	Then we have...
	Shit, I don't know.
	Someone will figure it out.
	It'll take too long for me.
	You can do it right there.
	No, it'll take too long.
	Okay.
	We'll worry about it later.
	Palindrome for Sunday, 989.
	Huh.
	That sounds good.
	Yeah, we could do something with that.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And we might have to.
	Kelly Stewart in Kanai, Alaska, came in with the top number of 12-12-17, which, guess what, is the date and a date for her birthday.
	It's a date.
	Well, it's not today's date, obviously, but it's her birthday on 12-12-17, so to wish...
	To which Kelly, I believe, is, I'm assuming, yeah, it is a female.
	Kelly can be, is either.
	My nephew punched me in the face a little over a year ago, she says.
	Hold on, it's called hitting them in the mouth, not punching in the face.
	Well, no, I'm assuming her nephew punched her in the face.
	It's possible.
	I was out of work and now I've got three jobs.
	I'm going big.
	My birthday is 12-12.
	Here's a present to me and to the best podcast in the universe.
	If I get to pick, I'd like to be Dame Kelly of the K-N-E-I. K-E-N-E-I. You got it.
	One of my three jobs as a recruiter focusing on IT and engineering.
	Sending an Alaskan-sized dose of Jobs Karma for No Agenda listeners.
	Alright.
	Anything else?
	That's it?
	Yeah.
	Jobs.
	Jobs.
	And jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Alright.
	Dame Kelly, looking forward to your ceremony later on.
	Evan Johnson in Tigard, Oregon, 367.77.
	He sent a note in.
	John and Adam, despite your missing last time, I am not Sir Dwayne, although I do live in Tigard, Oregon.
	You know, we have a bunch of people.
	Well, Dwayne is Dwayne Melanson.
	He's the Duke.
	So, I don't know.
	It's been nearly three years since I started listening to No Agenda after moving to a new apartment into unit number 33.
	It was destiny.
	This donation should bring me to Baronet with some extra thrown in.
	Since the donation doldrums after the massive outpouring during the 10th anniversary double deal has been making me cringe for you guys, also, shamefully, I haven't contributed in a few months, and the guilt has been weighing heavy on my soul.
	Oh.
	I was inspired to step up in part by noticing an article confirming a no-agenda theory about DNA testing compliance fudging results to make people think they're all from Africa.
	Yeah, did you hear about that?
	23andMe specifically did that because they were what they deemed to be racist who were saying, how is it possible that I have some African blood in me?
	I want you to clarify.
	And what they did is they made a category which was African or African And they put in less than one, which means it could be zero or it could be up to one percent.
	And they thought that was hilarious because the racists would forever think that they might be part African.
	Yeah, well, this is the kind of thing you have to deal with.
	This also accounts for there's a clip...
	It's not in today's batch, but it's from last show.
	And maybe we can play it later.
	Yeah.
	Or actually, I'll just explain it.
	Well, tell me what it is.
	See if I can find it with my swanky sis.
	It just says DNA on it.
	There's three of them.
	This is a clip where the Today Show, I believe it was a Today Show, or it may have been Good Morning America, or it could have been a CBS morning show.
	Anyway, it was one of those three shows.
	They had a guy take the three main DNA testers, take triplets, Yeah, we actually talked about this on the show weeks ago, maybe months ago.
	This is different because this only happened like last week.
	Okay.
	Well, would they tell me what the results were?
	There was a whole bunch of similarities, like African, but then there was wildly different subcategories.
	Yeah.
	Let me start over then.
	All right, I'm sorry.
	And this came out after your thing that you just mentioned.
	They had the three testings.
	They had the three women who are all exact, and boy, they talk about triplets who look like each other.
	Was this the Fox and Friends five-hour DNA? Was that it?
	No.
	Okay, all right, all right.
	It's on the Today Show.
	It's a morning thing.
	Oh, yeah, I'm sorry.
	And this is very elaborate.
	I keep starting over.
	They had the three kids.
	They had the three women that were triplets with different names.
	They each took, each one of them took each one of the tests, and so they compared them side by side and individually.
	So all the results had to be identical for the three, and then they compared the three different kits to each other.
	So it was a three, four-way deal.
	And what do you think happened?
	They nailed it.
	All three kits had the exact same results.
	Except for, you know, one was off a little bit, but they were all identical for all three women.
	It was unbelievable how great these kids are.
	Sounds like a native ad to me.
	Well, it was a native ad, but for which one of the three groups?
	I can't tell.
	They didn't say which company it was?
	Yeah, they said all three of them.
	They had 23andMe, they had MyHeritage, and they had some other one.
	I'm telling you, that's got to be a setup because, first of all, people, do not give your DNA to these companies.
	This is not a smart idea.
	It's just not.
	I don't trust this at all.
	They always have different results, but they go on the Today Show and it's all perfect.
	I will say one thing.
	They all had a little bit of DNA from Africa.
	Or the Middle East.
	It was Middle East, Middle East Africa.
	North Africa.
	Every other test that I've seen where they, because many of these have been performed, there's always at least subtle differences in the results, but yet on the Today Show...
	Not in this case.
	Yeah, no.
	Okay, what does that tell you?
	They nailed it.
	By the way, I'm going to put Evan Johnson on the title change list, because he's not on there.
	Good.
	All right.
	This donation should bring me to Baronetta County below.
	Shamefully, I haven't contributed in a few months.
	He goes on.
	Article confirming the DNA. I read this already.
	People think they all have African heritage.
	What a strange world.
	I also noticed that a recent clip of the soon-to-be new princess of the UK telling her bogus story about mailing women in politics about a dish soap ad.
	I found this very unnerving.
	That's an interesting catch.
	Yeah, Emilio.
	If anyone out there has been feeling...
	Yeah, I, by the way, thought that dish soap thing was...
	Well, also, you know, she was...
	Her parents divorced when she was six.
	So five years later...
	I don't know.
	Maybe she was living with her dad.
	Maybe it was all a great relationship.
	I don't know.
	It just...
	It doesn't really matter.
	She's a spook.
	If anyone out...
	Yes.
	Yes.
	If anyone out there has been feeling guilty and not donating, then donate.
	As Adam was saying recently, we want to trap the crackpot and buzzkill in this line of work forever.
	For our own selfish enjoyment and our own collective mental hygiene as well.
	Thank you both for your courage.
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	Yes!
	We have a Bitcoin segment coming up.
	There's also a fractal of the Bitcoin price chart every few weeks.
	Adam, you are probably correct about Bitcoin Core, BTC, but I don't think the same criticisms apply to Bitcoin Cash, BCH. Bitcoin's core became tulips when the transaction cost exceeded that of regular bank or credit card transactions and when the Mempool,
	the transmitted transactions that have yet to be included in the blockchain, grew to more than 20 blocks worth of transactions.
	Mempool, HTTP has got a thing on here.
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	No agenda, on the other hand, maintains its value with continued media deconstruction, thoughtful analysis, and occasional flights of entertaining paranoid fantasy that might just be true.
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	You've been de-douched.
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	And now we move to Sir...
	Oh, Sir Crispac, the Baron of Quinnipiac.
	Quinnipiac.
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	Quinnipiac Valley in Cheshire.
	Quinnipiac.
	33333.
	I'm giving myself my annual birthday gift of an executive producer shift on...
	On reflecting over this past year, I have realized that straddling between dimensions A and B feels a lot like being a kid in a divorced household.
	I like that.
	Each side does not trust the other and assumes the worst about everything.
	Both sides think I am siding with the other simply because I refuse to condemn them.
	Taylor Swift knows about that.
	Yes, she does.
	Sickening, really.
	Pretty sickening.
	I hope that 2018 is a better year on this front.
	Don't count on it.
	But I doubt it.
	I have thought that the anti-Trumpers were getting bored of it until the Flynn plea ratcheted things up all over again.
	We all need a little karma for the new year.
	Mazel tov.
	Yes.
	Sir Chris Back of the No Agenda Brewers Guild, Baron of Quinnipiac Valley.
	Yes, I make my friends call me that.
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	Keep the sanity going.
	Stop it!
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	And wrapping up our...
	Dan Hees will be an associate executive producer for the show number.
	988?
	988.
	And Voldek...
	Z... I don't know.
	This one here...
	Zeleniac?
	Zeleniac is close.
	I'm sure that's not it at all.
	I'd have to run this through Forvo or one of the things I'd pronounce his names, but he knows who he is.
	$200.02.
	No reason to read the note.
	N-J-N-K. But I will.
	Thank you for all the excellent work.
	This is my annual donation, which is a little late this year.
	Makes me a knight, I think.
	Yes.
	It does.
	Okay.
	Well, you're on the night list.
	Vlodek.
	Zeleniak.
	Zeleniak.
	I think it's Zeleniak.
	Zeleniak, it sounds like the way you'd pronounce it.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, I want to thank all these folks for showing 988.
	Onwards to show 1,000, which is very hard to achieve.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	It's just 12 shows away.
	I hope we make it.
	By the way.
	Yeah.
	988 is hard to achieve.
	Yes, it wasn't easy.
	I agree with you there.
	But it was only made possible with our value for value model.
	That's why we're still on the air.
	That's why we haven't been fired.
	Why people haven't gone after our sponsors.
	It's why we can discuss things that are difficult to discuss.
	Conversations that you can't have in the M5M media.
	No, if it's not completely illegal to have the conversation.
	Correct.
	So you should cherish that, and obviously we have executive producers and associate executive producers who do, and we appreciate that.
	More people to thank in our second donation segment, and we do have a show coming up on Sunday.
	We hope you will support us.
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	Be out there, have your eyes peeled, and always propagate the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out...
	We hit people in the mouth.
	Real.
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	Shut up, slave.
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	There we go.
	Thank you.
	From the bottom of my heart.
	And my wife's bottom as well.
	There's a couple, you know, they did a piece, because the Lauer thing, they did a piece on...
	Her wife?
	His wife?
	No, on Today Show, Gaffs.
	And there's a bunch of these lists of all the stupidest things they've ever done.
	I have a clip of, there's one of the seven stupidest things they've ever done, but I have a clip of two of the things that I personally find to be, one's slightly offensive, but the other one I personally, they're actually both incredibly offensive and stupid.
	But I want to play this clip so you can hear them.
	Because you probably...
	I never know this ever happened, but apparently it did.
	This Today Show gaffs.
	When the Today Show reported Amy Winehouse's death back in 2011, her music video for You Know I'm No Good played.
	With the caption, you know I'm dead, underneath.
	The following year, Kathie Lee Gifford made the cringeworthy mistake of asking Martin Short how long he and his wife, Nancy Dolman, had been together.
	Completely unaware, Nancy had died back in 2010.
	And you and Nancy have gotten one of the greatest marriages of anybody in show business.
	How many years now for you guys?
	We married 36 years.
	But you're still, like, in love.
	Madly in love.
	Wow.
	Why?
	Why?
	Shoot, I'm cute.
	Wow.
	Unbelievable.
	But you know I'm dead.
	This is like in the Chiron.
	Unbelievable.
	That's harsh.
	It's very harsh.
	Oh, man.
	Oh, wow.
	Hey, Bitcoin for a moment.
	Yes, Bitcoin.
	So Bitcoin has now skyrocketed past 15,000.
	Yeah.
	But it seems like only a week ago it was past 10,000.
	And we already have some more issues cropping up, as I predicted.
	You have two coins.
	I have some coins.
	We've got more than two.
	I'll sell them when it's at a million dollars.
	I will.
	You're destroying 30 grand away.
	I consider that, yeah, sure, try and sell them.
	And why would I ever put my Bitcoins onto anyone else's server?
	For example, what was the name of this exchange?
	$62 million, a nice hash.
	Nice hash.
	$62 million in Bitcoin stolen.
	So that's people's Bitcoins, you know, you put it in your wallet there, and oh, it's all great, and then all of a sudden it's gone.
	It's just stolen or hacked, or maybe they stole it and say they were hacked.
	Yeah.
	I mean, this is very, very...
	And, you know, we've got the big...
	They actually moved it forward.
	The futures, Bitcoin futures on the...
	I think this is...
	Is it the Chicago Board of Exchange?
	Yeah, the Chicago...
	Yeah.
	So how do the futures work?
	I don't really understand.
	So you're betting...
	It's kind of like an option in a way?
	Yeah.
	No, it's contracts.
	Okay.
	And you only have to pay, it's all on margin, so you buy a delivery of, I don't know, it's always different amounts, but let's just say for Purposes of this conversation, a ton of soybeans to be delivered in September of 2018.
	And you pay a certain price for the soybeans and you put down about a tenth of that to cover the bet.
	And then that goes up and down and up and down.
	You can trade that.
	You can say, oh, look, it's going to weigh up.
	I'm going to sell it now.
	So you sell it next month to somebody else who wants the soybeans.
	Eventually, it gets covered at the end and somebody gets a bunch of soybeans delivered.
	Right.
	Hopefully it's not you.
	Right, because that would kind of suck.
	Yeah, you'd have a bunch of soybeans.
	In fact, I know a story I've heard about someone who was stubborn and they felt that the price should have gone up and never did.
	They took delivery of the soybeans and had them delivered to the basement of their house.
	I don't know if it's a true story, but it's a good story.
	And apparently, because soybeans are hygroscopic, they absorb water, lifted the house off its foundation.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Now it's Snopes material.
	Well, there's a lot of problems that are going on, and people know that I don't think it's currency.
	I don't think it's an excellent store of value.
	It is not, because the value today could be wildly different tomorrow.
	Sure, everyone's happy when it goes up, but it will go down.
	It's science.
	It's math.
	There's no other way for it.
	It's the way the universe works.
	Science!
	What you're seeing now, though, is because of the incessant hype, there's an incredible demand.
	So people are just jumping in and everyone's buying because everybody wants to be a part of the craze.
	Now, I'm thinking about this.
	You know, looking for what could possibly happen.
	Is there something big?
	I'm always looking for something bigger behind the Bitcoin, because we still don't really know who invented it.
	Except, you know, Max Keiser, maybe.
	But we still don't really know.
	And we're getting into this point where we also have the risk of someone creating a majority attack.
	So in the...
	And I'm not completely versed in this, but when someone controls more than half of the network hash rate So 51%, which is very possible someone has that.
	Someone controls that.
	Who really can mine?
	Not caring what it costs.
	The U.S. government would be one, or some agency, or I don't know, maybe someone who has a $500 million contract with Amazon for servers.
	I don't know.
	There's a lot of people who could possibly create a majority attack, and then you can pretty much capture 100% of all the hash.
	I know this is not a great technical explanation, but it's in the wiki, so it must be true.
	Now, what if the U.S. may be behind this?
	And he would be my use for it.
	Behind the whole thing?
	Behind the whole thing.
	Just bear with me.
	The Chinese are going nuts over Bitcoin.
	They are?
	Arguably.
	Arguably.
	Yeah, I think that what I understand, the Chinese are the ones that have a lot of Bitcoin.
	They love it because they want to go outside of their system.
	Ah, yes, it's supposed to be a great way to bypass the financial currency.
	Yes, I've heard that about Bitcoin.
	I've heard it might be a great way to bypass, though.
	So what if we wait until all the Chiners have their cash in?
	Now I'm talking Bitcoin $100,000.
	I'm just going to pull a number.
	I think it would be about $100,000.
	They get a quarter million.
	Can you get out?
	$100,000.
	Now you can't get out at $100,000.
	Anyway, forget about that.
	The Chinas put their cash in.
	Bitcoin's $100,000.
	Boom.
	Pull the rug.
	Collapse China.
	All their money's gone.
	In one go.
	And that wouldn't even have to be a majority attack.
	It could be, you know, a short.
	It could be a massive short.
	It could be a huge sell-off.
	It could be a destruction of the blockchain.
	Because once you, you know, once you start a cascade of selling, everyone will just go crazy.
	And they'll be selling all the way down.
	It could go to zero.
	It may bounce back up again, which is where you want to be waiting.
	I'm buying it a nickel.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	So I don't know.
	That thought crossed my mind.
	Like, you know, when I heard about the majority attack, that that stuff was actually possible.
	You know, it's much worse than the dot-com bubble.
	When we were all looking around going, why the...
	I took my company public, raised a whopping $16 million.
	Woo-hoo!
	And, you know, I was looking at people raising $500 million, $600 million for, you know, sock puppets.
	Well, and a billion, yeah, for sock puppet stuff.
	You know, pets.com was the big, you know, was the big joke.
	But what is going on here is they're, you know, they're really intelligent people are just, their judgments become clouded.
	I mean, you can always put, you can always mess around with stuff, but anyone thinks this is safe and they're building their future on it, I don't know.
	I would really recommend you not do that.
	The Winklevoss twins.
	Yes.
	They better be selling.
	If they care about their money, they should be selling.
	And then I came across this New World Order outfit called One Global Democracy, which I wanted...
	They have a...
	It's a very interesting little...
	I think the guy was on Fox the other day.
	I saw him.
	Let me see.
	I think it's OneGlobal...
	Yeah, OneGlobalDemocracy.com.
	Notice it's not.org.
	And they have a...
	OneGlobalDemocracy, an idea whose time has come.
	Let's listen to a bit of this video.
	Climate change, inequality, and fear are tearing our world apart.
	National governments have failed to solve these global problems.
	Separate countries simply don't work anymore.
	The United States will withdraw from the Paris Climate Accord.
	People have lost patience with the slow, incremental approach to reform.
	Yeah!
	Astronomens exploiting desperation are seizing power, turning back the arc of human progress.
	We have reached a crisis point.
	People who normally tune out politics have woken up.
	But the system is so broken, no one seems to see a way to fix it.
	It's time for a new story to raise our sights to what's possible and give people hope again.
	A story of how we can create peace, equality, and justice worldwide within our lifetimes through a bold new approach.
	One global democracy.
	A world without borders.
	No borders.
	No borders.
	Wait for it!
	Many of us believe in a future where countries no longer divide us and we work together to face our shared challenges.
	But few of us realize one global democracy is now within our grasp thanks to two new technologies.
	With blockchains, the technology behind Bitcoin, we can enable everyone to vote online securely as the digital divide closes worldwide.
	And with a liquid democracy model, everyone can vote directly on policy.
	There you go, John.
	Or delegate their vote.
	Blockchain is the way for global voting.
	One global democracy...
	Okay.
	So this guy...
	Yeah, Peter Sherman.
	Yeah, he's the former radio talk show host.
	Oh.
	Also is a politician in Ontario.
	He's a progressive conservative member of the Legislative Assembly of Ontario for a few years.
	He represented this area.
	I don't know where he got this idea.
	Well, you know, I will say, I like the concept of using blockchain for voting.
	You know, that would be a reasonably secure way, although completely open, you know, you can't vote in secret.
	But, you know, you're going to see this talk.
	I guarantee you people are going to be talking about the blockchain.
	Oh, they'll be talking about it.
	You know, people want to vote online for some sick reason.
	And yes, it's not going to be secret.
	Your ballot is open, so you'll be able to see what somebody voted.
	You can still have somebody point a gun at your head and say, okay, open your computer and vote for this guy.
	It can still happen.
	This is bull crap.
	People...
	If it's not important enough for you to go down to the voting place and put your X on a ballot and stick it in the box, it's not that important.
	Electronic voting, I'm dead set against it.
	Blockchain doesn't do anything for me.
	I don't even care about that.
	There's plenty of secure ways to do voting online without blockchain.
	Hmm.
	I understand where he's coming from, and I think you're going to hear a lot of people using this as a great idea.
	I find it kind of ironic that we have the no borders, no nations, global kumbaya people using a phrase that includes the name chain at all.
	You know, the blockchain, you're chained, you're chained.
	That will be your identity in the new world order.
	Your hash, your number.
	You can tattoo the number on your arm.
	It's really cool.
	Yeah, I can see it.
	Sign me up.
	I vote no.
	Right.
	So, are you familiar with this dispute between Amazon and Google?
	Yeah, a little bit.
	That has led Google to block YouTube from playing on Amazon's Echo Show, and I guess also other, like their Fire TV devices.
	Why is this?
	Why are they doing that?
	Because apparently Amazon won't give Google some...
	Content?
	Something like that, yeah.
	Oh yeah, here it is.
	Amazon doesn't carry Google products like Chromecast and Google Home and doesn't make Prime Video available for Google Cast users.
	So I ask you, these are two of the very same people who are touting the importance of net neutrality so the evil ISPs can't filter out or charge you more for specific kinds of content.
	I guess we don't have to worry about that with you assholes in charge.
	They're doing exactly that.
	Yeah.
	They are blocking content based on personal beefs and stuff.
	Exactly.
	Which is normal.
	It's normal business.
	But does anyone see the irony in this?
	No.
	Does anybody at those two companies see the irony in this?
	I guess not.
	It's just like you literally now cannot see the content you want.
	Isn't that the end result that you wanted to avoid?
	Yeah, Roku works fine.
	I got the Roku.
	But, you know, who knows?
	It could happen.
	Hey, Roku, we don't like what you're doing.
	We don't like how you're displaying our stuff.
	We're going to block access.
	Roku's cut off plenty of things that they don't like.
	But I'm telling you, that dispute can happen.
	We're talking now.
	Now you have the issue between the devices people use Which may come down to your phone.
	You got a phone?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	You can't get any Google stuff on your Apple phone.
	I see that in the future.
	It should be now.
	That's a good idea.
	Can't start soon enough.
	Yeah.
	I just found that to be, you know.
	Yeah, that's your beef of the day.
	It should be a pet peeve.
	Oh, it's not really a peeve.
	No, it's not really a peeve.
	I can't take that as a peeve.
	It's just, it's ironic.
	And I need you, based upon our list, to talk about the hamburgers in the UK. Because a lot of people are very disappointed.
	You teased that in the newsletter and then we did not get to it.
	Which means, which is shorthand for we forgot.
	We forgot.
	It wasn't like a high priority item.
	I did say in the last newsletter, I teased it again.
	With a picture of some hamburger.
	Let's put a couple of things.
	Let's start talking about the hamburger.
	Just not going to take forever.
	But there's a way of making American-style hamburgers pretty straightforward.
	You can go to any good hamburger shop.
	All over the United States, Quarter Pounder, Nations Burgers, and even some of the big chains.
	You're saying there's plenty of examples?
	There's plenty of examples.
	It tends to be mustard, mayonnaise, maybe mixed up with maybe some ketchup, usually a pickle, and then a burger that's fried with a piece of cheese on top of the fried burger.
	JC pointed out, because when he was in London, he decided that wherever we went, whatever pub, whatever thing we went to, I didn't know he was doing this until near the end, He'd order a hamburger.
	Pubs have them.
	Restaurants have them.
	He just had a bunch of them.
	And he says the way England looks at a hamburger is they see it as a sandwich.
	Yes.
	They don't see it as a hamburger.
	No, they literally call it a sandwich.
	And many of them eat it with a knife and fork.
	Wow, that's wrong.
	You always get a knife and fork with it.
	And you'll find it like there'll be the burger on top of the lettuce, which makes it slide off.
	And then there'll be, you know, everything will be put on top.
	And then at the top, there'll be like maybe a tomato.
	And then on top of the tomato, there'll be a slice of cheese.
	They don't get it.
	It's just, you know, just ingredients haphazardly thrown on a bun.
	And in one case, he says, can I get some condiments?
	She said, what would you like?
	He said, I'd like to get some mustard.
	Oh, we haven't got any mustard.
	Oh.
	So he couldn't get mustard for his hamburger.
	Although I don't like mustard on my hamburger.
	It doesn't seem right.
	It's beside the point.
	Whether you like it or not.
	It should be available.
	Mustard goes on a hamburger.
	Very common.
	Damn it!
	You're getting really pretty...
	Well, no.
	You come out with, I don't like mustard.
	So there should be no mustard, is what you're saying?
	No.
	It's no big deal?
	You're saying it's no big deal, but it is a big deal.
	You have to have mustard...
	And it should be on the burger to begin with.
	But they got none of this going on.
	They don't know anything about it.
	It's not that difficult.
	And now we see in the United States, especially with Hubert Keller, deciding to come up with a $5,000 hamburger.
	And, of course, this has been going on with the French chefs for a while because Hubert Keller started this thing called the Burger Bar, which has got these miscellaneous types of burgers.
	They're very French.
	And he got into it.
	I think Daniel Boulud in New York started doing these burgers with foie gras on them.
	And now the two chefs are going after each other.
	Meanwhile, Wolfgang Puck, who used to work at Maxime's when he was younger, also has a French take on the hamburger.
	And what these burgers are, to me, are meatball sandwiches.
	You take the burger and they roll it into a ball.
	What you have to do with the burgers, first you've got to flatten it.
	And you've got to do that with pressure.
	You've got to put something to flatten the burger out.
	It's got to be a flat, thin burger.
	It could be a flat, thick burger, but generally speaking, it's still got to be flat.
	It can't be round.
	And so they take and they roll a round ball and they push it together with a very...
	Excuse me.
	Very little effort.
	And then they put it on there so the bun is now a mile high.
	There's no way.
	You can't put it in your face.
	You can't take the whole thing and squeeze it down.
	That's why a knife and fork works.
	So these are not hamburgers.
	Now, since I'm on a roll, so Jan Aylman writes me.
	He's one of our producers and he's a good friend of mine.
	He's Dutch.
	Yeah.
	He's a guy, we went on a tour of Holland of all the great restaurants a few years back.
	He writes me, says, ah, the reason that the Bosch washing machine is the way it is, is because it saves energy and it doesn't damage the fabrics.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It also doesn't dry them.
	It's here.
	Here you go.
	I'm watching this thing.
	It takes two and a half hours to do a load.
	It's there, stopped dead.
	Yes, it's saving tons of energy because it's off.
	So then it spins a little bit and it slops around the clothes and then it sits there again for a half hour because it's saving energy.
	Yeah, it's saving energy because it's not doing anything.
	That's called saving energy.
	Meanwhile, it's not going to damage the fabrics.
	We're washing underwear.
	Oh, I don't want to make sure my underwear gets too damaged from the nasty rotation of a Maytag.
	Come on.
	This is bogus.
	These washing machines suck.
	They do.
	And we called it.
	We said it was probably some energy-saving bullcrap.
	Yeah.
	Oh, it saves energy.
	Yeah.
	Everything saves energy.
	Just unplug it.
	Let me tell you something.
	I now remember growing up in the Netherlands, which was part of socialist Europe at the time, and having a clothes washer and dryer was not common.
	This is 1972, 1973, and it just was not common.
	And in fact, if I recall correctly, I think some people kind of looked down upon it.
	Because you weren't using a service?
	No, no.
	Because we didn't have slaves.
	No, because, well, really, you know, the detergent is bad for the environment.
	You're using up energy.
	I recall that.
	I think it was frowned upon to not do your wash by hand.
	This machine stuff was bad all around.
	And maybe that's the genesis of it.
	That's interesting.
	The great American washing machine and dryers, I think they're pretty common in the United States because the women got tired of doing washer board stuff.
	Let's work out on a washer board.
	They got their tits in the wringer and they were done with it.
	Well, the tit in the ringer was on one of the more modern machines since the washerwoman.
	But, you know, I suppose if you had lots of services around there, it was very, you know, complete.
	You could just drop your stuff off and get it back the next day.
	That'd be fantastic, but that doesn't sound like it to me.
	It sounds like they wanted people to do hand labor.
	Wash it by hand.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Soak it, soak it, soak it.
	Wash it by hand.
	Now, another statement you made about your trip to Gitmo Nation GMT is that there are no rodents, no rats.
	There's no rats.
	You said there were just no rats.
	Yeah, because of the foxes.
	Are you sure there's no rats?
	Well, I didn't see any rats, but there have been reports of very few rats.
	I'm sure there's rats all over the place, but the foxes keep the ones that are visible down.
	Well, experts at Edinburgh University have come up with a solution to the apparent rat problem in the UK. Okay.
	Which you did not hear.
	Figures released last week show that London councils, that's the council estates, that's the ghettos, where welfare people live, Well, there you go.
	The researchers are proposing releasing genetically mutated rats into the rat population.
	What could possibly go wrong?
	Wow!
	Could you imagine that?
	They're saying this approach is similar to approaches already being tested in mosquitoes.
	Yeah, mosquitoes, they do that.
	Yeah, malaria.
	These are rats.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	It's a DNA editing technique called CRISPR. I've heard about this.
	And with humans then?
	Well, I think you can do a lot with humans.
	You can probably take the douchebag gene out of men, which I think is what's on deck.
	I think it's already been on deck because if I keep seeing more and more of these reports being done by these millennial quote-unquote men, it kind of indicates that something's up.
	This is very interesting, this CRISPR process.
	I have to read into this.
	Do-it-yourself garage scientists could unleash genetically edited organisms into the wild.
	What is this process?
	We're stuck with that problem anyway.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's this process technique called CRISPR. There's another link.
	No, it links to the same page.
	Here we go.
	First genetically modified humans could exist within...
	I've got to look into this stuff.
	This is...
	I'm sure we have a lot of people who understand DNA editing.
	You've got to talk to us about this stuff.
	Yeah, well, they're probably all gung-ho about it.
	Damn.
	Well, anyway, so, yeah.
	Genetically modified rats are in your future.
	Mutated, I should say.
	Not modified, mutated.
	That'd be great if they're giant and become giant for some reason.
	Giant rats that can walk.
	Giant rats that can walk.
	That can talk.
	Hey, you!
	Yeah, that'd be fantastic.
	No, I don't think it would be.
	I don't think it would be that fantastic.
	If you want to write some good science fiction, I like the idea.
	Let me see.
	What else do we have?
	I got a thing for you.
	A couple of clips.
	This is something you point out.
	I just want you to play the clips back to back and then you can tell me what it is in these clips that you've kind of been pointing out as a kind of a problem no one wants to...
	To address, the two clips are interesting problems, Soquel fires.
	This is the ABC report.
	And then, interesting problems, Soquel fires, a local report.
	And yet, there it is.
	Tonight, the Thomas Fire, just one of multiple blazes, scorching the state.
	To the south, the Creek Fire on the northern edge of Los Angeles, forcing more evacuations.
	That fire also out of control.
	And in Santa Clarita, the Rye Fire, jumping Interstate 5, shutting down that major highway.
	So let's get to Marcus Moore joining us live tonight.
	And we can see that stunning scene behind you, the flames, the home gutted.
	And I know there's real concern tonight because of these windy conditions expected to continue.
	Yeah, that's right, David.
	That high wind has been picking up the embers, and those embers have really been skipping from house to house, jumping over some homes, but destroying others.
	And the other problem we're hearing about, water pressure.
	Firefighters telling me that they've had to let some homes burn because they simply didn't have enough water pressure in some of those hydrants, perhaps because of the power outages.
	David?
	Just a devastating scene playing out there behind you.
	Now, do you want me to play the second one right away?
	Yep, play it.
	Power outages are also making the job even harder.
	What?
	A lot of water systems rely on pump systems, so they're electrically powered, and that could account for some of the difficulties that we've had, plus an enormous amount of usage, stress on the water system, so there's a lot of different factors.
	Well, what do you think the common thing is here, this theme?
	Power?
	Yeah, they've got these electric pumps and they don't take into account the fact that if there's a bad fire like this, it blows out the entire grid.
	Wait a minute, I don't know how stupid...
	Don't they have generators?
	What do we have for...
	Oh, jeez.
	I think you used the right word in that sentence.
	Stupid.
	Yeah.
	It's like...
	Yeah.
	It would only be worse if they drove to the...
	Yeah, in a Tesla firetruck.
	Yeah.
	Which is coming, I'm sure.
	I'm sure there'll be a Tesla fire truck.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yes.
	This is great.
	We need one of those.
	And you can do zero to 60 in four seconds, which is something I never want to see in a fire truck.
	No.
	Definitely not.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	So they go to some guy's rich house up there.
	Bel Air is on fire.
	And they hook up and nothing because there's no water pressure.
	Because the electric pump is burned out because there's no electricity for it.
	This is like stupid.
	Yeah.
	Well, they'll fix it for next time.
	A lot of gasoline going on.
	If you have to do it by, you're in Southern California, actually Northern California too, and you need a contractor for something, good luck.
	Yeah.
	The president announced, I guess he announced that this morning, that he's going to be, he said, we're going to move our embassy to Jerusalem.
	I do have the To Jerusalem clip from CBS if you want to play it.
	Okay, let me see.
	Jerusalem, is it called Jerusalem Clip by any time?
	To Jerusalem.
	To.
	As in T-O? Yeah.
	Because sometimes it...
	Oh, to Jerusalem.
	I see what you're saying.
	Okay.
	David, thank you.
	Trump's announcement today that the United States now recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel for the first time since the Jewish state was founded nearly 70 years ago.
	Mr.
	Trump also ordered the State Department to begin planning to move the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, a campaign promise.
	Major Garrett is at the White House.
	We cannot solve our problems by making the same failed assumptions and repeating the same failed strategies of the past.
	President Trump's recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel rejects the policy of previous presidents and the recommendations of his secretaries of state and defense.
	This is a long overdue step to advance the peace process and to work towards a lasting agreement.
	But administration officials could point to no evidence this symbolically important shift in U.S. policy will accelerate peace talks.
	Mr. Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, is leading that White House effort and has yet to formulate a plan.
	We will move the American embassy to the eternal capital of the Jewish people, Jerusalem.
	In an appeal to his Christian conservative base, candidate Trump promised the embassy move.
	Today he started that effort, which is expected to take at least four years.
	A new embassy.
	Now, I have a couple questions about this, but I also have another clip I want us to listen to.
	First of all, I believe today this announcement comes on the 100-year anniversary of the Battle of Jerusalem.
	Could be.
	Which is not being mentioned.
	I thought that was, you know, rather interesting.
	Yeah.
	And I'm thinking, he must have some kind of deal with Bibi.
	He said, look.
	Because, I mean, it's largely unimportant.
	Other than that, you know, a whole bunch of Arab countries hate him.
	They hate him anyway.
	Yeah.
	They do.
	Here it is.
	I think we have a world leaders clip.
	Let me play that for a second.
	Calls between President Trump and several leaders here in the Middle East have unleashed a wave of alarm and even anger.
	This is why.
	There are concerns that if President Trump goes ahead and recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and starts the process of moving the U.S. Embassy from here in Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, the Arab world will see the United States as choosing sides, siding with Israel in the long-running dispute between the Israelis and Palestinians.
	Now, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, through his spokesman tonight, says that the moves could kill the peace process.
	King Abdullah of Jordan said the potential U.S. action could have dangerous repercussions for security throughout the region.
	And Egypt's President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi also weighed in, telling Trump there's no need to complicate matters here in the Middle East.
	Palestinian factions are now calling for three days of rage right across the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.
	As a result, Israeli security forces are now preparing for demonstrations that could very well turn violent.
	So three days of rage.
	Yeah.
	I don't know if that's started yet, but we'll be on the lookout for it.
	Yeah, it started.
	So, what is behind this?
	Clearly, he must have some agreement.
	Well, a number of presidents have promised to do this over the years because Israel, once Jerusalem recognizes its capital.
	Which already is the capital.
	The prime minister is there.
	I mean, everything's there.
	They've got a lot of stuff going on.
	Yeah.
	And...
	For some reason, and I'm not even absolutely sure what the reason is, we've been reluctant to do it, even though I believe Clinton and Obama both promised to do it, and both of them were by the same Secretary of State kind of mentality.
	No, no, no, no, don't do it.
	It's just going to piss everybody off.
	And so they didn't do it.
	And Trump promised and promised in the campaign to do it, and he did it.
	And now everyone's still irked, you know, and all the world's leaders are all bent out of shape and all the rest.
	And I find it, I think maybe, I don't know if you're thinking any differently, I'm kind of baffled by the outrage.
	It's their capital.
	Well, I mean, I understand the outrage from Arab states because there's, you know, there's dispute.
	Well, I don't fully understand that.
	Oh, but there's dispute.
	This is what the Six-Day War was about.
	There's dispute about, you know, it's, yes, we have the Temple Mount and the wall, but we also have an important mosque.
	There's all kinds of important...
	So why can't it be the capital?
	The temple is not going to be bothered.
	It's not going to be shoved over.
	Well, I think it's the Jews and Arabs hating each other.
	That probably has something to do with it.
	They do hate each other.
	I just don't see it.
	Personally, not getting the reason for all the outrage.
	And Theresa May and everybody's all bent out of shape about it.
	Okay.
	Well, maybe someone will help.
	But what I wanted you to listen to...
	We're going to get a history lesson.
	Yes, we're going to get it.
	It's fine.
	It's not going to be useful.
	Maybe it will be.
	At least a modern-day version.
	Now, listen to...
	Well, we got a lot of dudes named Muhammad.
	Yes, we do.
	We have a dude named Muhammad Muhammad.
	It's actually a dude named Muhammad.
	And he's always been quite good at analysis.
	He'll give it to us.
	Yeah, actually, a couple of these guys have been pretty good at it.
	Now I want you to listen to this piece, it's actually the last minute of Trump's announcement, and tell me our president doesn't have dentures.
	For the many who desire peace to expel the extremists from their mists, it is time for all civilized nations and people to respond to disagreement with reasoned debate.
	Not violence.
	And it is time for young and moderate voices all across the Middle East to claim for themselves a bright and beautiful future.
	So today, let us rededicate ourselves to a path of mutual understanding and respect.
	Let us rethink old assumptions and open our hearts and minds to possible and possibilities.
	And finally, I ask the leaders of the region, political and religious, Israeli and Palestinian, Jewish and Christian and Muslim, to join us in the noble quest for lasting peace.
	Thank you.
	God bless you.
	God bless Israel.
	God bless the Palestinians, and God bless the United States.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you.
	The last part is the best.
	Well, see, people have been speculating about this, and I never thought of the dentures angle.
	God bless Israel.
	God bless the Palestinians, and God bless the United States.
	Thank you very much.
	The United States.
	Yeah, these dentures are loose.
	To me, I hear dentures.
	I don't know why everybody else...
	People are like, he's having a stroke!
	He's drunk.
	Yeah, well, it could be Adderall.
	No, no, no.
	You nailed it.
	You nailed it.
	I think it's dentures.
	I'm giving you kudos for nailing it.
	You nailed it.
	That's what it is.
	He's got the wrong polygrip.
	You know, he's been reused.
	Guy can reuse this again.
	This has never been revealed.
	No, but this is why we are the No Agenda Show.
	That's why his teeth look really good for a guy who's in the 70s.
	Yes.
	Particularly with the dental care they had back in the 70s.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Gee, I hope I don't have to have dentures when I'm 70.
	Do you have dentures?
	No.
	God, no.
	Not 70.
	But isn't it like, I love that.
	Yeah, they're falling out.
	You might as well just be gumming it.
	Gum it.
	Come on, President, gum it.
	And you know what?
	They could have such a field day, the press, if only they would think about stuff like this.
	You could have questions.
	Well, you can ask him.
	Well, you can ask questions.
	Where dentures were they falling out when he gave a speech about Israel?
	Yes.
	Ask Sarah Huckabee about that, see what she says.
	Oh, did you hear what Chelsea Handler said about Sarah Huckabee Sanders?
	A pig or something?
	When somebody from the Trump White House stands at the lectern and tells us that black is white.
	That harlot that they're dressing up and trolloping out every day?
	I mean, one day she has no makeup on at all, the next she's got like six foot long eyelashes, and she's got cleavage and summer whore lipstick all over her face.
	Can you believe what they've turned her into?
	A proper trollop.
	Wow.
	That's some woman-on-woman hate right there.
	Yeah, that's a hateful woman.
	That's not okay.
	No.
	And it's all about appearance.
	Nobody will call her out because she's a Democrat.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	What am I thinking?
	Yeah.
	Woman on woman hate.
	Yes.
	Well, I've got a bunch of clips that I went to Democracy and I started following them because they always have news stories and nobody else plays.
	It's kind of built up now.
	We've got to catch up with some of these stories because nobody's playing these stories.
	And so I want to do that.
	But before we do it, There's a radio guy named Quinn who apparently...
	I have that clip too.
	Yeah, Thomas Kilbride, one of our producers, dug it up and actually sent him the stuff.
	And Quinn played it.
	You want to play your copy?
	Because my copy, I still have the little silence at the beginning.
	It needs to be edited.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, then I have to go and find out where it was.
	Well, you can just play mine again.
	We can talk over it.
	Yeah, okay.
	No problem.
	Here we go.
	Okay.
	Also, a guy named Tom sent me an email here about a radio show called The No Agenda Show, hosted by Adam Curry, former VJ. Did you hear the disdain in his voice?
	Like I have a venereal disease.
	By Adam Curry, former VJ. Let's do it again.
	By Adam Curry, former VJ. Did you get any VJ on you?
	And tech columnist John...
	Hey, what's with this reverb?
	Should we be doing that?
	I hope not.
	I love it.
	His reverb is quite spectacular.
	It's really doing it for me.
	By Adam Curry, former VJ and tech columnist John Dvorak.
	Well, I know him.
	I know that guy.
	But anyway...
	That's the mouse guy.
	They've identified what they call the Trump rotation.
	See, first, it's unfit for office.
	Then we move to Russia.
	Then when that doesn't work, we go to the popular vote.
	We bring that back again.
	And then we go to impeachment.
	And then to the 25th Amendment.
	And then to he's a sex predator.
	And then to he's nuts.
	Now we have to include obstruction of justice in the rotation.
	So, yeah, it's obstruction of justice.
	And when that doesn't work, we'll go back to unfit for office.
	Russia didn't win the popular vote.
	You know, whatever it takes.
	But that's the Trump rotation.
	Nice!
	Wow!
	He made us a jingle, basically.
	Listen.
	Yeah.
	If you just say, that's the Trump rotation.
	Yeah, that's the Trump rotation.
	Yeah.
	Thomas Kilbride sent that email.
	That's cool.
	I like that a lot.
	Very good work.
	I really appreciate that.
	He didn't plug the NoGendashow.com site and call this a radio show, but...
	You know, from his perspective, I guess we are.
	I'm going to show my soul by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	In the morning.
	We do have a few people to thank for show 988.
	And we'll just name, send locations, and we'll start off with Bruce Schwalm in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.
	And he actually is one of those bank checks came in.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	Nice.
	Baron Sir Hugger of Kitties, 100.
	And this is for his birthday, 12-12.
	This is another 12-12 birthday.
	Is he on the list?
	Let me see.
	Yes, he is.
	Chris, and he came at 100.
	Chris Gro...
	What do you think?
	Grommel?
	Grommel?
	Grommel.
	Grommel.
	Gromall.
	Okay.
	In Kingston, New York, 98-80.
	He's a double job scarring for his wife.
	And we'll put that on at the end.
	And the birthday shout is listed.
	Kent Hilbert in Gainesville, Virginia, 75.
	I got something there.
	I don't know what that is.
	You can look at it while I'm going.
	Continuing.
	Dwight Chick, 6789 in Burlington, Ohio.
	Sir Abel Kirby, Knight of the Fighter Flight.
	Fight or Flight.
	Fight or Flight.
	6660.
	Paul.
	Plain old Paul in Renton, Washington.
	65.
	Stephen Hightower, 5510.
	Sir Trent Wabbis, as in Wabbis.
	5510.
	Double nickels on the dime.
	Michael Gates, 5280.
	Eric Hatchell.
	Is it Hatchell?
	52.
	What is this?
	Todd Moore.
	Let me scroll this so it goes up.
	In Arlington, Washington, 50.
	We're already down to the 50s.
	A very short list.
	Let's name the 50s name and location.
	Starting with Todd and Jeff Williams in Mount Shasta, California.
	Caleb Kniffin in Grain Valley, Missouri.
	David Schlesinger in Rosemont, Illinois.
	Tim Abel in Bergfield, Berkshire, UK. Jonathan Meyer in Xenia, Ohio.
	Edward Mazurik in Memphis, Tennessee.
	Matthew Januszewski in Chicago, Illinois.
	Gene Ablin in Sonora, California.
	No, wait.
	Sir, what's-his-face over there?
	Yeah, I don't know why he jumped.
	And then Christopher Flynn.
	And Christopher Flynn in Groton, Connecticut.
	And he has Sir, what's-his-face over there?
	I have a great gay gentleman from his loving girlfriend.
	So that's from his girlfriend.
	Nice.
	All right.
	And that's it?
	Yeah, that's pretty much it.
	Okay.
	We'd like the list to be a little bit longer for Sunday's show, please.
	There's a lot of deconstructing to do.
	But it's your show, and you pointed that out very well in the newsletter.
	I thought it was really good.
	Yeah, it didn't work.
	Well, actually, it did, but not in the way you wanted it to work, because you said...
	No, I just got a bunch of women irked at me for making assumptions.
	Well, you said the only way, unlike commercial programs, M5M, where you can get fired, you know, it's all in the interest of the advertiser.
	Either your advertisers get targeted, it happens.
	You said, no, the only thing that can happen is, you know, you determine you don't want the show to be here anymore.
	And you said, that's the way it should be.
	And I think people took that to heart.
	Yeah, it's the way it should be.
	Yeah.
	And they said, yeah, that's right.
	Yeah, so they think, okay, you guys suck.
	You're a bunch of sexist pigs.
	Exactly.
	Eat it.
	Well, we appreciate everybody supporting us who did, and, of course, those who came in under $50.
	That is typically for reasons of anonymity, and you know who you are.
	I want to mention one thing.
	Let's see.
	I got these cards from this guy.
	Bless you both.
	Okay, if I may be so bold as to ask for a call-out to Dr.
	Mike, the rich and exceedingly cheap bastard who hit me in the mouth, and fealty to you both, Craig Nosley.
	So Dr.
	Mike in Cumberland, B.C. gets a call-out.
	You just got it.
	And I don't know if it was a call-out for a douchebag, because he's cheap.
	So give him a douchebag.
	Okay.
	Douchebag!
	That's what he wanted.
	And I have a make good for Sir Jimmy from Summerfield, North Carolina.
	He was looking for a quick plug, which we forgot to do, for his freehollowbooks.com.
	Oh, yeah.
	Great operation.
	Yeah, really take a look at that.
	I have a number of his hollow books.
	I have two.
	And they're really good.
	I mean, he made one for the judge.
	I mean, I got all kinds of cool ones.
	He's got, this is the place to go if you want a hollow book.
	Yes.
	And it's a good place to stash some cash in the bookshelf.
	I mean, in these books, although I do have to send him a box of books, the OS2 book or something, I keep promising for years.
	The OS2 book, a classic.
	Yeah, don't you think it'd be a great book to have a hollow?
	A classic, yes.
	And so...
	They're going to ruin your book.
	It's like these books are fantastic because the books are like, they got the covers and they look tattered and they look like a real book that you'd have.
	It's not like some...
	No, it's the actual book, yeah.
	Yeah, it's a good looking book and it's got just hollow inside.
	It's fantastic.
	Yeah, it's a great process.
	Yes, an outstanding product indeed.
	Thank you very much.
	And thank you again for donating and remember us for our show coming up on Sunday.
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	And we say happy birthday from all your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe.
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	A baronet, and we congratulate him, and the changes shall be reflected on our Peerage page, dvorak.org slash peerage.htm, if I'm not mistaken, or itm.im slash peerage.
	Who updates that, really?
	Do you update?
	I never update it.
	Who updates?
	The Peerage page is not the page that shows the knights and dames.
	It's the page that shows how to get to the different levels.
	No, we have a peerage map.
	I'm sorry.
	That's a peerage map.
	Ah, so where's the peerage map?
	You used to know.
	Maybe if I just do...
	Well, no agenda.
	I'm going to Bing it.
	You're going to Bing it?
	Good.
	By the way, go to bingit.io.
	Okay.
	Oh, look where it does.
	Did you see it?
	Yeah, Bing it.
	Bingit.io.
	Have you tried it?
	Yeah, it takes the No Agenda page.
	No Agenda search page.
	Yeah, okay.
	Well, it's No Agenda page.
	You didn't actually type it in, did you?
	It says, yeah, I did.
	It's got a picture of some, like, modern art, No Agenda thing.
	It says, No Agender.
	Yeah, I typed it in.
	Bingit.io, you saw what?
	No Agender?
	It says, No Agender.
	Welcome to the No Agender show notes search.
	It's got a big...
	A photo of one of a cover art says Noah Gentner.
	Oh, I guess it loads...
	Oh, you didn't.
	You obviously didn't.
	No, it loads a different picture each time.
	Ah.
	That's why.
	But anyway, and you know what?
	It's pretty damn useful.
	I've just gotten into the habit of just binging stuff, and you come up with great articles from the past, you know, almost probably six years, seven years.
	Yeah.
	It's not bad.
	All right.
	Well, you're binging this other thing right now?
	Binging it?
	Yeah.
	No.
	What was I binging?
	I forgot what I was binging.
	You were binging something.
	Oh, the No Agenda Peerage page.
	Well, I'm going to try it with bing it.
	Okay.
	Bing it.
	Just bing it.
	Okay, we're looking for a song that has just bing it.
	I think we can get that probably by the end of the show today.
	Yeah, it does not have any results for the Puritz page.
	Fail.
	Eric knows what it is.
	I hate it when that happens.
	All right.
	Let's see.
	Oh, a little update on Sweden.
	You know, things have been heating up over there.
	You don't hear a lot about it in the M5M reporting about the migrant issues and the stuff that they're bringing in or the stuff that they're doing there.
	And a lot of the Swedes are pretty angry about it.
	This is a podcaster, a YouTuber named Peter Sweden.
	Peter Sweden here.
	Things in Sweden have now escalated to a completely new level.
	A military RPG weapon has been found in the Swedish capital of Stockholm.
	Let us think in for a minute.
	This is an RPG, a rocket-propelled grenade.
	This is a military weapon that is being used in wars to take out tanks.
	And this has now been found in the Swedish capital of Stockholm.
	And not only did I find this RPG weapon, it was actually loaded as well with a projectile.
	So a fully loaded RPG was found in Sweden in 2017.
	This is not Somalia.
	It's not Iraq.
	It's not Afghanistan.
	This is Sweden.
	A European country.
	Damn.
	They haven't even had one of those.
	What a report!
	Well, this is just, he's a podcaster.
	You can't find this report anywhere on the news.
	Go bing it.
	No.
	No one's talking about this.
	Funny, RPGs?
	Loaded?
	Yeah, I think it'd do some damage.
	Brexit is...
	Especially if a kid gets a hold of it.
	I don't want to hear about it.
	Brexit, still, you know, prediction, we hold fast to it, that they'll have a do-over.
	Tony Blair, he's all over it.
	I think it's possible now that Brexit doesn't happen.
	Nah.
	I think it's absolutely necessary that it doesn't happen because I think every day is bringing us fresh evidence that it's doing us damage economically, certainly doing us damage politically.
	I think public opinion is moving on it.
	Look, this time last year we were the...
	Fastest growing economy in the G7. We're now the slowest.
	Our savings ratio is the lowest for 50 years.
	The investment community internationally has now gone really negative on us.
	Our currency is down 10-12%.
	Investment in the motor car industry, for example, is down 30%.
	Living standards are stagnating.
	I mean, this is causing us real damage.
	That's beyond doubt.
	I mean, it hasn't even happened yet.
	Wouldn't you say that all those problems are because they're in the European Union?
	That would be the logic.
	They're still in the European Union.
	Nothing's changed.
	Yeah, where did all those problems come from?
	Just because they wanted to Brexit?
	Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
	I'm feeling a do-over.
	That's what I'm feeling.
	Guess who's been saying that since the past?
	Yes, I give you total props for that.
	While we're spanning around the globe, let's go to Scandinavia.
	Justin Trudeau on global warming.
	A bit of a...
	I don't know if he realized what he was saying, but it turns out to be just a beautiful little 20-second clip.
	Let me be very blunt about this.
	Coal represents perhaps the greatest challenge to Canada, or to the world, not meeting...
	I like how...
	That's a nice little faux pas.
	It's the greatest challenge to Canada.
	I mean the world.
	Yeah, it's a challenge to Canada because they're the oil guys.
	I think he was speaking the truth there.
	Maybe.
	It's the greatest challenge to Canada or to the world not meeting its climate change targets.
	Unless we reduce coal consumption, we are not going to be able to create catastrophic global warming.
	Uh...
	Uh, hmm, that's interesting.
	Well, here's a, uh, play this clip.
	This is a, uh, I think Good Morning America did this clip.
	This is a 2000, this is 2004, this is done 2004, 2008.
	There's only a bit of it, a prediction of what's going to happen in 2016.
	Agricultural production's dropping because temperatures are rising.
	There's about one billion people who are malnourished.
	That number just continually grows.
	It's June 8th, 2015.
	One carton of milk is $12.99.
	Gas has reached over $9 a gallon.
	I remember this.
	I think I probably still have that original clip, which was a whole...
	It was like a 10-minute thing about...
	Yeah, of all these horrible things that will happen in 2015.
	Gas will be $9 a gallon and we're all going to die.
	Yeah, milk is $20.
	We're all going to...
	We're all going to die.
	We're all going to die.
	Definitely going to die.
	I have a bunch of stuff that doesn't get reported anyplace else.
	I got it all from the Democracy Now!
	And I can do it as a clip blitz and get them out of the way.
	Oh, I don't have my clip blitz.
	Although it may not work today because you're having trouble.
	Yeah, I don't know if we should do it.
	Let me play a few things for you that we're not hearing about.
	Travel ban in the UN treaty.
	Yeah, I think I can do this.
	The Supreme Court ruled Monday the latest iteration of President Trump's travel ban can go into effect even as legal challenges continue in lower courts.
	The court's order means the Trump administration can fully enforce its new restrictions on travel from eight countries, six of them predominantly Muslim.
	The ruling will bar most citizens from Iran, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Chad and North Korea from entering the United States, along with some Venezuelans.
	The latest version was issued in September, shortly before the Supreme Court was set to hear oral arguments on the previous iteration of the travel ban.
	Last month, the Trump administration asked the Supreme Court to allow Trump's latest travel ban to take effect following an appeals court ruling that blocked part of it from being enacted.
	We'll have more after headlines.
	The travel ban came as the Trump administration said it's withdrawn from the U.S. from the United Nations Global Compact on Migration.
	Over the weekend, U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley said President Trump will no longer commit to the deal in which countries pledge to uphold the rights of refugees, help migrants resettle and ensure they have access to jobs and education.
	Red 33!
	Flip blitz!
	Unreported Honduras News.
	Unreported Honduras News.
	OK.
	In Honduras, police in the capital, Tegucigalpa, refused to impose an overnight curfew ordered by the government after days of protests over allegations of fraud in the country's disputed presidential election.
	Electoral officials say they will not declare a winner in the November 26 election in order to allow the filing of challenges and appeals.
	Early Monday, Early Monday, the government-controlled Electoral Commission found that incumbent U.S.-backed President Juan Orlando Hernandez was ahead of opposition candidate Salvador Nasralla by a margin of about 1.5 percent after a recount of suspicious votes from just over 1,000 polling stations.
	Nasralla and his supporters have charged the commission with vote-rigging.
	We'll have more on the crisis in Honduras later in the broadcast.
	Here's one they don't want you to hear.
	VW, guys, get prisoned.
	Yeah, I heard about this.
	Senior Volkswagen manager was sentenced to seven years in federal prison today for his role in the emissions scandal.
	Oliver Schmidt, a German, had pleaded guilty to fraud.
	Schmidt led VW's engineering and environmental office in Michigan and covered up the company's scheme to cheat on diesel emissions tests.
	Let me throw one in here.
	Hold on a second.
	I'll do a little...
	Here we go.
	Red 33!
	Congress votes down Al Green's articles of impeachment.
	The House overwhelmingly voted today to kill a resolution from a liberal Democratic lawmaker to impeach President Trump.
	A majority of Democrats joined Republicans in opposing the move.
	Democratic Congressman Al Green of Texas says President Trump has associated his presidency with causes rooted in bigotry and racism.
	After Green's resolution was read aloud, the House voted 364 to 58.
	To table that measure.
	And I'll do one more.
	A compilation of Democrats flipping out over the United States tax bill.
	Madam President, in the early hours of Saturday morning, under the cover of darkness, the Republican majority rushed through one of the worst, most hastily considered pieces of major legislation I've seen in my time here in the Senate.
	We are all going to die.
	This is Armageddon.
	Friday was my single worst day as a U.S. Senator.
	It's really akin to rape.
	This is the death penalty to the people in my district.
	How can our Republican colleagues be so heartless and cruel?
	I think it's as undemocratic and as anti-American as anything I've ever seen.
	One of the great robberies, act of criminal activities, if you like, in the modern history of this country because the federal treasury is being looted tonight.
	That's why we call it a tax scam.
	We're educating the American public about this tax scam.
	It's the worst bill.
	In the history of the United States Congress.
	This cruel, malign, malicious, misguided bill.
	If the Republicans pass this horrible tax bill with a healthcare repeal added in, this is really devastating.
	But I think this could trigger a depression in the United States at some point.
	A depression in the United States?
	You really believe that?
	A recession, I'm sorry.
	My piece explains why an estimate that thousands will die as a consequence of this bill is actually a very conservative estimate.
	I didn't come down to Congress to rape and pillage the people of my district.
	Well, they're all going on and on.
	Before you go on with that...
	It might be true, by the way.
	I don't know.
	It's very possible.
	Who knows?
	It seems unlikely.
	But they're going on and on about that, and all the news people are covering one thing or another.
	But how come they don't cover this story?
	This will be the last Clip Blitz.
	I've got other stuff to talk about.
	This one I thought was outrageous.
	It's the Cluster Bomb story.
	Red 33!
	Clip Blitz!
	Yeah, it would have been slick if...
	The Trump administration is way...
	Oh, I didn't want to play it there.
	Here we go.
	The Trump administration has waived a ban on older cluster bombs, paving the way for the U.S. to expand its use of the weapons, which are banned under a treaty signed by over 100 nations.
	The weapons scatter so-called bomblets over a wide area, exploding into shrapnel that tears through flesh.
	Some of the bombs fail to explode, effectively becoming landmines that later maim and kill civilians, especially children.
	How does that not get discussed?
	Why these guys are going nuts about this other stuff?
	Well, you know why.
	You're asking questions that we know the answers to.
	And there's another one that's kind of not discussed.
	Yeah, okay.
	This is a Yemen update.
	This is the president, that ex-president that the Houthis were out to get is dead and nobody mentions it to me.
	In Yemen, former President Ali Abdullah Saleh was confirmed dead Monday after a video posted online by Houthi rebels showed Saleh's lifeless body dumped in the back of a pickup truck.
	Saleh was killed as pitch battles continued to rage in the Yemeni capital Sana'a between Houthis and forces allied with Saleh's political movement.
	The killing could escalate Yemen's civil war, which has brought 7 million people to the brink of famine and fanned a massive cholera epidemic.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	I was...
	How does that not get discussed?
	Well, the one that I really...
	I really looked for a clip.
	It may be available by now, but this morning I looked everywhere.
	Even RT and Rupley and all those guys.
	Shakersvili, you know, the Thai-eaten nutjob from Georgia, the country Georgia.
	So he was arrested, and then people broke into the police station, set him free.
	They got him out over the roof.
	You've got to see this video.
	It's crazy.
	And apparently because he was in some kind of corruption scheme with the Russians.
	Talk about an Orange Revolution hit job.
	This has Soros' hands all over it.
	We're not getting any real good news.
	There was one story that also Democracy Now!
	did on the National Monuments rollback.
	They got everybody all bent out of shape.
	I personally didn't think it was as big a deal as they had to make it because over the years, anyone who's been following this, is the federal government has been buying up private property all over the place where they own most of California.
	In fact, I think the Obama administration did a lot of that.
	Yeah, they were really overdoing it.
	So Trump rolled back some of it on a couple of monuments that are in the middle of nowhere.
	Utah is national monuments.
	Yeah, you got it.
	Donald Trump traveled to Utah Monday, where he announced plans for the largest rollback of federal land protection in U.S. history.
	The plan calls for shrinking the Bears Ears monument by more than two million acres.
	That's More than 80 percent and splitting it into two separate areas.
	Trump would also slash the state's 1.9 million acre Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument by 50 percent.
	The national monuments were designated under the century-old Antiquities Act, a law meant to protect sacred sites, artifacts, and historical objects.
	Trump criticized the law Monday.
	Your timeless bond with the outdoors should not be replaced with the whims of regulators thousands and thousands of miles away.
	way, they don't know your land, and truly they don't care for your land like you do.
	But from now on that won't matter.
	I've come to Utah to take a very historic action to reverse federal overreach and restore the rights of this land to your citizens.
	Trump's move drew outrage among environmentalists, thousands of whom marched on Monday through the streets of Salt Lake City, where riot police held them back from the meeting between President Trump and leaders of the Mormon Church.
	The protest came as five Native American tribes filed suit against President Trump, Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, and several other officials in a bid to halt the rollback.
	So I guess the protests are saying that he's doing this to give the oil companies free reign to go and drill on the land?
	Is that it?
	Mineral companies?
	I don't know.
	I mean, the monuments are still protected.
	It's just that Obama and Clinton are the two people that did each of these two monuments.
	They just took a whole chunk of half the state so you can't do anything.
	Why did they do that?
	Because they were, because the feds have been doing this for years, buying up, or taking, using any excuse to take up property, own property?
	It's just, Washington State is like half owned by the feds, and so is California.
	It's basically job security for the feds.
	I guess.
	I don't know what to, I mean, there's other rationales for it, but the feds own way too much in the United States.
	I mean, you know, it's not the idea for the government to own all the property.
	I have an update on victims of the directed energy weapon attack in Cuba.
	Yeah, these guys are in bad shape.
	Doctors who are treating the victims of the unexplained attacks on Americans in Cuba have discovered abnormalities in their brain as they've been searching for answers for how these patients developed all kinds of symptoms ranging from neurological to vision and cognitive problems.
	The doctors have found changes in the white matter tracks.
	White matter in the brain acts like highways of information that lets different parts of the brain talk to each other.
	These are the most specific medical findings to date that doctors have been able to come up with, showing that whatever harmed the Americans in Cuba, it led to discernible, measurable changes in their brain.
	Investigators still don't know what kind of device or weapon could cause these types of changes in the brain.
	And outside experts tell the AP that acoustic waves or sound has never been shown to change white matter tracks.
	They also say it's very unusual to see changes in the white matter without also seeing changes to the gray matter, neurons that process information in the brain.
	The U.S. says 24 American government workers in Havana were hit by unexplained attacks in their homes and in some cases hotels.
	Almost all of the Americans heard some unexplained sound and then later developed symptoms.
	Some of those symptoms included hearing loss, cognitive problems, memory and balance issues, and even eyesight problems.
	The U.S. says it still doesn't know who's doing this, but as it learns more about what's happened to these victims, they're learning more about how to treat potential cases in the future.
	With white matter damage, there can be all sorts of behavioral or sensory or motor problems.
	Because the white matter is what really allows the entire brain to communicate with itself, damage to the white matter can cause changes in thinking, it can cause sensory changes in some cases, it can cause changes in movement or speed or thinking abilities in general.
	So typically when we talk about white matter damage that might be due to sound, we're talking about major explosions or what we call blast injuries.
	And so if someone is in a battlefield, for example, and there's an explosion near them, the massive sound waves can indeed disrupt the white matter and change the subtle microstructure of the white matter.
	That's been documented.
	I'm not aware of anyone who's ever shown Sort of more focused or subtle sound-related damage.
	And there's something in that report that tells you about PTSD, I guess.
	That your brain actually changes, the white matter changes because of a sound blast.
	If you remember when this first happened, there was a CIA guy on one of the shows who says, you know, maybe we shouldn't be talking about this and probably shouldn't be blaming the Cubans.
	He's making some sort of apology.
	And I think it's a weapon that we've developed.
	I have that clip.
	It says here, Cuban sound incident with spook.
	I think that's the one.
	Let's listen to it.
	The bizarre incidents beginning last October left a group of U.S. diplomats with severe hearing loss, blamed on what one official says could have been a surveillance device, deployed inside or outside the American's Havana residences, which are all owned by Cuba's government.
	Several U.S. agencies, the CIA, FBI, and State Department's Diplomatic Security Service are all investigating.
	We don't know exactly where this came from, okay?
	We can't blame any one individual or our country at this point yet.
	An investigation is underway.
	We take that very seriously.
	Canada also says some of its diplomats in Havana also suffered symptoms.
	In Havana, a Cuban newscaster says the government is investigating and, quote, Cuba has never nor would it ever allow that the Cuban territory be used for any action against accredited diplomatic agents or their families.
	So who's responsible?
	Perhaps a third country?
	Some suggest possibly even Russia, where there has been a surge of harassment and outright attacks against US diplomats in recent years.
	Or just a surveillance attempt gone terribly wrong, says a former CIA veteran.
	I personally think it was an accident, a surveillance attempt.
	I do not think the Cubans would attack us physically like that, especially given the timing.
	The U.S. has already expelled, too.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Yeah, accident.
	You're right, it's probably one of our things.
	And we have it there, we have it at Gitmo or whatever, and someone pointed it in the wrong direction, it went off.
	Yeah.
	I was cleaning it and it went off.
	Yeah, something like that.
	But the fact that we have something like this is terrible.
	Yeah.
	Who the hell wants to get hit by one of those?
	Whatever that thing does.
	There's a concerning report.
	I should have done this in your UK hamburger bit and about the rats.
	There's something wrong with the weed in the UK. Then I'm saying that as an expert in the consumption of the holy herb.
	Chronic cannabis users are at risk of experiencing a horrifying new condition that is being reported at hospitals across the country.
	Scromiting, doctors say, is becoming an all-too-familiar sight at emergency rooms with patients screaming and vomiting as they turn up for help.
	Yeah.
	The condition called cannabinoid hypermesis syndrome, CHS, is not properly understood, but medical experts believe the symptoms appear from individuals using or consuming heavy amounts of marijuana over a long period of time.
	And then they literally scream and vomit at the same time, or scrummit.
	This is contaminated drugs.
	It must be.
	Yeah, this has got fentanyl in it or something like that.
	Something really bad.
	And you should immediately stop smoking whatever weed is out there and grow your own or something.
	Only smoke it where it's legal.
	And grow your own.
	This isn't bad.
	Yeah, or grow your own.
	I mean, in California, or actually not California yet, but it's in January, but in Washington State and Colorado, they have labs that test all the dope.
	Yeah.
	So when you're buying from one of these shops, you're not getting some crazy crap off the street.
	And the fact that some of these drug dealers think, oh, well, it shouldn't even be passed as a law because the street stuff, you can get it cheaper.
	We like to stay in business as drug dealers.
	This is nonsense because this is what happens.
	What you're dealing with is some contaminant.
	Some people in the government hate this stuff so much they'll contaminate it with rat poison and you smoke it and you get sick.
	Damn.
	It's really bad.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay, I got a couple more.
	Well, I have one longer clip I just want us to listen to.
	Okay.
	Because it's a real beauty.
	And it really shows you the problems with political correctness, social justice warriors, and politics and government.
	I don't know if you saw this or not.
	It's a little long, but I cut it down as much as I could, but just everything was so dynamite.
	This is the mayor of Brighton, Minnesota, Valerie Johnson.
	And she's on a city council meeting.
	Now, these things are streamed live, typically.
	And this is really just like a conference table.
	They're sitting over in the corner of maybe the auditorium.
	Oh, this is a great clip.
	Yeah, and it's streamed live because that's the transparency and openness of today's, what do you call it now, legislators?
	No.
	City councils.
	Yeah, city councils, right.
	And it was just mind-boggling.
	We all have white privilege.
	We don't know what it's like to not have it.
	Because we do.
	We go everywhere and we're just...
	We have that.
	We don't know the difference.
	We don't know what it's like to not have it.
	And I said, we can't do...
	Look at who's up here.
	We can't move forward as all being people of white privilege.
	We can't because we don't know the difference of not having it.
	Now this is one other person, council member, and the mayor is about to respond.
	Because I'm white.
	Hold on.
	That's the first council member, and then the person who responds is another council member calling her out, and then the mayor comes.
	You'll hear that it's the mayor.
	I said, we can't do, look at who's up here, we can't move forward as all being people of white privilege.
	We can't, because we don't know the difference of not having him.
	Because I'm white, you think I was privileged my whole life?
	Are you kidding me?
	I grew up in an Italian neighborhood.
	When they came here, my grandfather came here.
	They didn't speak English, but they assimilated.
	But I resent that you think that I have white privilege.
	Everybody I work for or with is usually from another country.
	And they say to me, here's what they say, is we as Americans don't realize, and it doesn't matter what color we are as Americans, because I believe we are all Americans, is that we are privileged to just live here.
	So I don't want to think that this body doesn't feel that they can't represent people because they're white.
	You are the exact reason we need this commission.
	If you don't understand white privilege, then you are not representing those people.
	You're not willing to listen to them.
	And what you have just said is the most...
	Racist?
	Excuse me?
	Don't you ever, ever accuse me of that.
	You have no basis to say something like that in public and no basis to say something like that.
	Then let me rephrase it.
	That statement was one of the most racist things I've ever heard.
	What statement?
	That you are offended by the fact that you're not feeling the white privilege thing.
	White privilege exists, and it is something that we need to accept in this country.
	You're interrupting me.
	Bye, Dolly, I'm running this meeting.
	We're on camera, and you're accusing me of something pretty big here.
	It's unacceptable.
	You're out of our order.
	No, I have basis for it based on what you just said.
	No, you don't.
	Well, because you said hi to Bernard, you understand?
	Oh, excuse me, I work with people.
	I probably know many more people of color than you do.
	My favorite part.
	I know more people of color than you do.
	And I work with them, so I do not want to have this argument with you, but you are out of line.
	You're out of order.
	And you're out of line.
	Okay, fine.
	That the discussion I just heard now makes me so angry.
	I'm shaking.
	You refuse to understand how other people in this community Feel.
	But you refuse.
	How do I refuse?
	Because you're obviously not going to support this.
	You're obviously not going to support this.
	And what you're doing...
	You don't know what I'm going to support.
	Quit interrupting me.
	You're accusing me of things that are wrong.
	Quit interrupting me.
	I'm going to finish my statement.
	What I heard was a racist statement.
	What I heard was a racist statement.
	No.
	No.
	You're just crediting.
	I'm...
	God damn, Gina.
	I'm passionate about this.
	I'm so passionate about hearing all sides of the story.
	And for you to disregard the fact that white privilege exists is beyond me.
	And to wrap things all around, wouldn't it be better if women ran everything?
	Well, I don't think I can top that.
	No, I think that's good.
	I got some clips I'll play at the next show, which are just as good then as they will be now.
	Yeah, I got lots of stuff left over.
	I've got a funny gay clip I think you'll like.
	You know, from the gays.
	The gays.
	Yes, the gays.
	All right, everybody.
	Yeah, the troll room liked that comment, John, for sure.
	Oh my goodness.
	The ring structure wins.
	Yes, John at Dvorak.org.
	Just saying.
	And that wraps it up for today.
	We will return on Sunday with another episode of Your Best Podcast in the Universe.
	It is your show.
	Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. And until that time, coming to you from downtown Austin, Tejas, capital of the drone star states, in the 5x9 Cludio, in the common law condo.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We return on Sunday right here on No Agenda.
	agenda.
	We'll see you then.
	And of course, until then, as always, adios, mofos.
	Oh my God.
	Oh my God!
	Oh my God!
	I'm looking for a sailor!
	Oh my God.
	Who are you to sympathize that I'm no human being?
	Oh my god!
	Oh my god!
	Oh my God.
	Oh my God!
	Nobody had bangers.
	Trying to get some bangers.
	Bangers.
	he's a banger i'm the only one who ever asked for bangers and mesh to the trend against a decent banger - And you get a big piece of meat.
	Bangers.
	A decent banger.
	A decent banger.
	I'm the only one who ever asked for bangers and mash because I was trying to get a decent banger.
	Nobody had bangers.
	Nobody had bangers.
	You kind of need to remind yourself that you need to focus.
	And try not to let stuff bother you as much as possible.
	But it is going to bother you.
	Because you're human.
	And I was human.
	I am human, but still.
	But I was just referring to myself in the past.
	I'm not.
	Not that I was not human.
	Not that I was human.
	I am human.
	Still.
	But I was just referring to myself in the past.
	Not that I was not human.
	But I was just referring to myself in the past.
	You kind of need to remind yourself that you need to focus and try not to let stuff bother you as much as possible.
	But it is going to bother you, because you're human.
	And I was human.
	I am human, but still.
	That's why I was just referring to myself in the past.
	Not that I was not human.
	No.
	Not that I was human.
	I am human still.
	I was just referring to myself.
	I was just referring to myself.
	The best podcast in the universe.
	Adios.
	MoFo.
	Dvorak.org.
	Slash.

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