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	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	And Sunday, December 3rd, 2017, this is your award-winning Game of Onation Media Assassination, Episode 9 or 8, 7.
	This is No Agenda.
	Welcome to the world of windows and broadcasting live from downtown Austin, Tejas, capital of the drone star state here in the Clunio.
	And good morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where the Zephyr has gone by without carrying anything, The sun is out.
	Everything's fine.
	I'm John C. Ford.
	It's Crackblot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning!
	Everything's kind of fine, but yeah.
	Yes, because we should tell everyone what you're doing.
	Yes, what I'm doing.
	I've switched to Windows.
	The whole show is running on Windows as of today.
	And that means that you can expect to experience the unexpected.
	And may you, or might I ask, why you made this switch?
	Well, I've been thinking about this for a long time.
	I've watched Apple successfully alienate the professional video industry.
	I see the weirdness going on with upgrades, particularly when it pertains to USB. They don't care.
	There was a USB problem about a year ago, and they left that problem going for six months.
	Fester is the word you're looking for.
	Fester.
	Nice.
	Yes.
	Fester.
	And I don't trust them.
	And honestly, I became quite enamored with the Windows product, the Windows 10.
	I like the Surface machines, although I'm not on a Surface machine.
	I'm kind of enamored by it all.
	And I think that maybe it's time for them to cycle up.
	Now, I would have done this on Linux if Linux had any kind of tools for podcast production.
	And sure, please don't send me the links to the open source mixers.
	I already went through this with all the guys trying, because I wanted to put a really small Linux box to run Skype.
	Yeah.
	Because I don't need the other stuff that you have.
	And Skype doesn't work on Linux.
	It doesn't work?
	Yeah, it works, doesn't it?
	Barely.
	Yeah.
	So anyway, they go, oh, you can try this and use this.
	Oh, you got the wrong Linux.
	You should use, instead of that Linux, use this Linux.
	It's really made for multimedia.
	Okay, so I loaded that, and I wouldn't even load that Linux.
	I mean, it's ridiculous.
	I know exactly what you mean.
	Now, hey, man, Jack Pilot, it works great for audio.
	No, no, it doesn't.
	It really doesn't.
	Well, here's what got me.
	There was this advertisement on the TV that, And it showed some little girl with her iPad and a keyboard on the iPad.
	And she's doing all her homework and she's doing all this stuff.
	And at the very end of the commercial, the mom says something like, can you do something about her computer?
	And she says, can you do something with the computer?
	I don't remember what the mom says.
	She says, did you do that all on your computer?
	And the kid is working on an iPad.
	And I must say...
	If you haven't seen the commercial, it's really good because the positioning is so well done.
	My favorite part actually is the kids ordering, like I think maybe he ordered an ice cream cone or something.
	That was a little girl.
	Could be.
	I don't know.
	Who knows these days?
	True.
	And he or she, you know, slams on the iPad, which immediately says to any parent, oh, the thing's indestructible.
	Fantastic.
	My moron kid won't break it immediately.
	And then the kid's lying in the grass, typing on the keyboard of the iPad.
	I think it's iPad Pro.
	And mom says, hey, you've been working on it.
	Did you do that all on your computer?
	And the kid goes, what's a computer?
	And we talked about this yesterday briefly when we were testing, and that hadn't even hit me like that.
	Like, there's proof.
	They're giving up entirely.
	The Mac, Mac OS, it's gone.
	Right?
	Yes, because at the end of this commercial, they said iOS.
	Yeah.
	They actually had the iOS commercial.
	And we know that they wanted to move the iOS to the Mac where they were trying to, which would have been a joke as far as I'm concerned.
	And they kind of gave up on that.
	And I think they're going to bail.
	They've got bookkeepers there that can look at these numbers and say, the amount of resources we put into maintaining this Macintosh in a world of changing everything is not worth the trouble.
	We can make more margin just with phones, and everyone loves the iPad, and I don't know.
	I think it's a mistake.
	Yeah, and for me, you know, migrating to Windows, and I've actually been using just pure Windows all week, and if anything goes wrong, I'd switch right back to the Mac.
	The setup is good to go.
	So, you know, if we don't like it, we can always go back.
	But, man, everything's so much faster, and just the filings, although Windows has its little problems.
	Oh, my God.
	File Explorer.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	It's busy.
	How long do you have to look into a directory to tell me what files are in there?
	What are you busy doing?
	But anyway, it's fascinating.
	I haven't seen that message for years.
	I don't know what you've got going on there.
	Well, there you go.
	Case in point.
	There's all kinds of little quirks and little things that just pop up on Windows.
	I don't know.
	It's quirky.
	That was almost disastrous.
	Sorry.
	It was quirky.
	It's quirky.
	Yeah, there's some quirks in it for sure.
	Not as bad as it used to be.
	I think Windows 10 is usable, very usable.
	Yeah, and it kind of works the way my mind thinks about where my files are and where I want stuff.
	It's tricky how the Mac obfuscates that, but they do it.
	They really obfuscate the filing system, which is the whole point of iOS, I think.
	Yeah, you don't know where anything is.
	Photos have to be in photos.
	Why would you want to put your photos anyplace other than photos?
	Well, now I've got to tell you, and I hate to do a tech segment here, but Windows, I have a little folder, and I'm dropping all the files in for today's show, and I have a JPEG. I drop that in.
	Immediately, the folder goes...
	I'm like, where's my date-modified sort?
	No, it had automatically decided it would optimize that folder for pictures.
	So, F you, Microsoft.
	Well, now this is a real issue.
	I mean, that's stupid.
	Yes, I agree.
	In fact, they have had the same problem with, I mean, you can go to view.
	Yeah, you can change it, but I don't want it to change automatically.
	No, it just decides that, whoa, these are photos.
	So what this guy obviously wants is he wants this information when it's not necessarily true.
	I have the same problem with the clips.
	I have this pile of clips.
	And it says, oh, this is all music.
	All this guy cares about is music because it's all MP3 files.
	So I don't get the length.
	I have to actually go in there and hand-pick viewed length.
	So when I get my list of clips, I have the length so I can go, this is a short clip, this is a long clip.
	You know, kind of regulate my clippage.
	Well, here's the cool thing.
	About our setup.
	And I found this program, which I think is really going to work well for us.
	We'll find out, because the workflows are untested as of yet, but it does have a SQL database built in.
	So all of our clips are all categorized, and even I can tag things easily, and it should be easy to find things.
	In fact, just migrating all this stuff, I found some amazing stuff.
	I don't even remember.
	I remember we had it, but I'm doing this off of Motu interface, Mark of the Unicorn, which is only five, six hundred bucks.
	It's getting affordable.
	What is it?
	I don't even know what you're talking about.
	Oh, well, there's hardware.
	I'm not doing it.
	You can't do this kind of stuff in software.
	You have to do it in hardware.
	So we've got a Mark of the Unicorn audio device, and it provides digital signal processing for EQ, for compression, and for gate, which is really all you need once you have those things in hardware.
	But that box is new.
	It's like, you know, five, six hundred bucks.
	That's all.
	That's how you used everything through the universal audio controller.
	Right, but I wanted to use that, but you have to use Thunderbolt, so you have to get a...
	I remember the whole thing, the PCI Express card to USB-C, then a dongle to a Thunderbolt.
	So you switched over your hardware.
	Yeah, I went big time.
	And that universal audio, by the time you get the plug-ins, that's $1,500, $1,700 bucks.
	So, you know, this is...
	So you're on board with Mark of the Unicorn.
	Well, so far.
	Last night we had all of a sudden the, you know, you got little, all kinds of bits and bytes and started to sound like crap.
	So if that happens, I won't be so on board, but we'll have to figure it out.
	All right, well, let's get started by doing everything back-assward.
	And I'd like to play the Joy Behar goes nuts.
	Do you have an ISO? I do have the ISO, but that's for later.
	Yeah, okay.
	Obviously, I have this clip, too.
	Do we want to set it up?
	Because I believe the producer running onto the set...
	Right as they're coming back from the commercial break is an obvious scripted setup moment.
	Oh, yeah, because she can't act, and it's pretty obvious.
	Nor could that guy, for that matter.
	Okay, let me set it up.
	Now, this is regarding, and we do have more clips about this, is Brian Ross at ABC... Produced a false report for which he was a suspect.
	I could not find the report.
	I have the second one because the first one was pulled and it only showed up on the East Coast in time to sink the stock market.
	It was crazy.
	I saw this happening and I was listening to CNBC. And they were pumping it.
	Oh, that's the end.
	The Trump trade is over.
	Trump, oh, it's all going to fall down now.
	We're all going to die.
	Yeah, well, they're of little help.
	Well, before we play Behar, then let's catch this up.
	Play the Brian, it says Ryan.
	Ross suspended KTVU local clip.
	Under R. Oh, Ryan.
	I'm sorry.
	I got it.
	Okay.
	ABC News apologized today for a serious error and suspended reporter Brian Ross for a month without pay for an erroneous report on retired General Michael Flynn.
	Ross had delivered what was billed as an exclusive report about Flynn.
	The report said Flynn would testify that Donald Trump had ordered him to make contact with Russians about foreign policy while Mr.
	Trump was still a candidate.
	The report set off calls for the president's impeachment and sent the Dow into a free fall.
	But later in the day, ABC issued a clarification saying President Trump's directive came during the transition after he'd been elected president, which is a key distinction.
	Ross appeared on World News Tonight to correct the report.
	Now, I wish, and this is the problem with Google, Because, you know, I even did a minus sign suspend, so that should omit those...
	Anything that has suspension in the content would not show up in search results.
	You cannot find the original video.
	It's done.
	It's gone.
	Yeah, I know.
	I hate that.
	What you can come up with is this report.
	This is the Brian Ross second.
	This is the...
	This was the one that he did as the mea culpa.
	And the way they describe it in the other report is...
	No, no.
	They just kind of ran through this as though it was the original report.
	Yeah.
	And I only have it clipped at the end because this thing is actually the original report with his little bit taken out and then him put back in telling it correctly.
	And you can play this and it's kind of, you know, you show it's kind of wishy-washy.
	Two weeks later, Flynn was fired and Comey says the president later asked him to go easy on the general.
	I understood him to be saying that what he wanted me to do was drop any investigation connected to Flynn's account of his conversations with the Russians.
	Even after Flynn was gone, the president still praised him.
	General Flynn is a wonderful man.
	I think it's really a sad thing that he was treated so badly.
	And David, a clarification tonight on something one of Flynn's confidants told us and we reported earlier today.
	He said the president had asked Flynn to contact Russia during the campaign.
	He's now clarifying that, saying, according to Flynn, candidate Trump asked him during the campaign to find ways to repair relations with Russia and other hotspots.
	And then after the election, the president-elect told him to contact Russia on issues, including working together to fight ISIS. David.
	Before and after.
	And in the meantime, Brian, we do have a statement from Michael Flynn tonight.
	He said, I accept full responsibility for my actions.
	That's right.
	And Flynn's confidence says Flynn's extremely angry at the White House tonight that he was going broke with crippling legal fees and made this deal for his family.
	His son, Michael Jr., had also been under investigation, but he was not charged today, David.
	All right, Brian Ross leading us off tonight.
	Brian, thank you.
	You know, the whole financial angle, which is not really being discussed, that was odd.
	Why was it odd?
	I don't know.
	It just, it felt off to me.
	I don't know.
	I mean, how did...
	Oh, this market is panicky.
	And they see Trump as the...
	No, no, no.
	I mean, no, no.
	I'm sorry.
	Not about that.
	What was odd was about Flynn, that he, you know, a million dollars in legal bills.
	Did he tell them that?
	I mean, is that what Flynn said?
	I don't know.
	See, I don't trust that.
	I don't trust that.
	Well, Brian Ross has been condemned a couple of times on the media, that PBS show where they looked into some of his reporting, and he's not really that good.
	I mean, Jeff Pegues, that guy I think is really good, and he never makes these sorts of mistakes.
	This was just, I mean, it was a huge blunder.
	It didn't make any sense if he looked at the timeline.
	But the mistake, it must have come from so sources.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Somebody told him this.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and he didn't check it out.
	All he had to do was look at the timeline.
	Because the timeline itself, it's all about when Obama put in those sketchy Sanctions in December, which is after the election, which means it would be okay.
	After the election, and then, you know, they kicked those guys out of that Maryland house, and those houses, and then the San Francisco place, they kicked the Russians out so they can rewire the bugs.
	They haven't let them back in yet, but they will.
	Because I think it was illegal, what they did.
	So let's, I have the good report on Flynn, on CBS, which Jeff Pegues is doing part of.
	Of course.
	He's an award-winning pooper.
	But before we do that, let's play the Joy Behar and talk about a biased, horrible person.
	This is that sketch that they did because they thought the Brian Ross report was accurate.
	Welcome back to the show.
	Breaking news.
	Oh my God.
	Oh, breaking news.
	ABC News Brian Ross is reporting Michael Flynn promised full cooperation to the Mueller team and is prepared to testify that as a candidate, Donald Trump directed him to make contact with the Russians.
	Yes! Woo-hoo!
	Yes!
	Yeah!
	Thank you!
	Like she won the Academy Award.
	It's unbelievable.
	I mean, that is...
	I mean, that clip is going around, so everyone probably saw it by now, but, I mean, yeah, first of all, it's so poorly acted on both the production assistant's part, or the producer, whoever that was, floor producer, floor director, and then her, oh, breaking news!
	Oh, I'm shocked!
	And then, you kind of need the video to go with it, because you just see the face.
	Ah, everyone's so happy.
	Oh yeah, no, except for the two Republicans or the one Republican that's there.
	But before we go any further, let me just try and understand it.
	So, what we now know according to still sources, even though the second report was a correction of the first report, it's still from sources.
	I don't think it's from any official anything, is it?
	I think there's some official statements, sure.
	Hmm.
	Nobody's disputing what's going on.
	Right.
	But the request was, please go talk to everybody on the UN Security Council and talk to the Russians and talk to everybody and let's make sure that we know what we're doing.
	We listened to the Flynn Report, CBS 1, and they actually explained what this was really all about.
	And you have to ask yourself, and it stops after a while, You have to ask yourself, why was this considered anything other than business as usual?
	Good evening, I'm Anthony Mason.
	The special counsel got himself a three-star witness.
	Retired General Michael Flynn pleaded guilty today to lying to the FBI and agreed to cooperate with Robert Mueller.
	Mueller is investigating Russian interference in the U.S. election, whether anyone in the Trump campaign was involved, and any other crimes he may find along the way, including obstruction of justice.
	Flynn, the president's first national security advisor...
	Hold on, hold on.
	He's already supposing that those are crimes.
	Is there any other crimes that he may have found?
	What crime is there?
	Yeah.
	Good catch.
	Whether anyone in the Trump campaign was involved...
	No, stop, stop.
	No, the crime was lying to the FBI. Ah, okay.
	Which, I think it's kind of funny how all the right-wing media are saying, oh, it's the Martha Stewart punishment.
	Yeah, it's like...
	This Papadopoulos guy, this other guy, this outlier that's also busted for lying to the FBI that's supposed to be cooperating, really wasn't part of anything.
	I looked at his indictment.
	And his lie was like missing the dates.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	You should look at it.
	It's like, what?
	He said it was on July 3rd, but it was July 4th, so he lied.
	I have a, let me see if I have it here.
	I do have a piece of the document about Flynn, and I can paraphrase it, but I want to see if I can find it.
	In essence, the crime he committed is punishable by zero to six months in jail and or $4,999 to $9,999.
	And typically, there's never jail sentence served or even the fine levy.
	But that's exactly what Martha Stewart got.
	She got the full Monty.
	She got the fine and she got the six months.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, she's a hazard to the public, I guess.
	Anyway, let's listen to the rest of this, and you see what this is really about.
	It's very interesting that they don't play crimes he may find along the way, including obstruction of justice.
	Flynn, the president's first national security advisor, was an advisor to the campaign.
	He could serve as a guide as investigators look into the Trump team's contacts with Russia before and after the election.
	Jeff Pegues begins our coverage.
	Michael Flynn arrived at the courthouse this morning to plead guilty to making false statements to the FBI. Once inside, a federal judge asked him if he was doing so willingly and voluntarily.
	The 58-year-old former lieutenant general answered with a simple, yes, sir.
	According to court papers, Flynn lied to FBI agents about the details of two phone calls he had with then-Russian ambassador to the U.S. Sergey Kislyak during the presidential transition.
	CBS News has learned Flynn was directed to make the first call by President Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, described in court papers as a very senior member of the transition team.
	You know, he's in rare form today, our Jeff Beges is.
	He's really in the upper regions of needing to go.
	Directed to make the first call by President Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, described in court papers as a very senior member of the transition team.
	On December 22, 2016, Flynn called Kislyak to urge Russia to delay or defeat a United Nations resolution concerning Israeli settlements.
	A week later, Flynn spoke to Kislyak again, this time about new sanctions imposed by the Obama administration on Russia.
	He relayed to the ambassador that the Trump team did not want Russia to escalate the situation.
	Flynn made that call after consulting with someone court papers identify as a senior transition official.
	CBS News has learned that was Flynn's deputy, KT McFarland.
	After the second Kislyak call, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced that he would not retaliate for the U.S. sanctions.
	And President-elect Trump tweeted Putin was very smart.
	Now, a couple of things.
	This is the only report that mentions KT McFarland, who we know as a former security advisor to Bush, I believe.
	And she looks like a spook.
	And so I don't know what the connection is there with her and this whole fiasco.
	But the fiasco part of it is what the conversations were about.
	Yeah.
	It was just trying to get business started.
	One was on Israeli settlements.
	And the other one was on emptying out these houses and kicking the Russians out of the country and telling Putin not to overreact to it.
	Right.
	So what was...
	But more importantly, why does CNN and MSNBC and all of ABC and everybody, why do they think that because there's this information that it means anything?
	It sounds really delusional.
	Yes.
	And I hate when I have to say that because it's like, come on.
	These are intelligent people.
	Well, Behar excluded.
	But they're intelligent people.
	How can they think this?
	How can they not just listen to the evidence or the bullshit they're spewing and think that there's something happening?
	I'm really baffled by it.
	Dimension B. I'm baffled by a couple of things.
	I'm also baffled by...
	There's no reason for Flynn to have to lie about this stuff.
	Because it wasn't anything meaningful.
	It's just a conversation about Israel and a settlement.
	Yeah, maybe he had something else going on.
	Well, he does have something else going on to try to kidnap the Gulan and some of this other bull crap.
	And maybe he's got Alzheimer's.
	We don't know.
	I mean, he maybe forgot the conversations.
	And he should have known they were being recorded.
	Yeah.
	Because everything Kislyak does in this country or anywhere else is being recorded.
	So the whole thing is making less and less sense to me.
	Well, I was going to say unless, you know, it's like one of those, you know, he lied but it was about a date or something and it's just being blown all out of proportion.
	Yeah.
	Well, I think there's a delusion.
	I think it's wishful thinking.
	I think you could tell the pent-up wishful thinking when Behar went nuts.
	I have to play ISO-OMG Behar.
	Oh, my God.
	There you go.
	That Academy Award winning.
	Totally.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, my God.
	Anyway, so let's go to clip two of this report.
	What does Flynn's cooperation signal about the direction of this investigation?
	It signals it's going forward and it's moving and advancing very quickly.
	Peter Zeidenberg is a former federal prosecutor.
	If anyone was going to be interacting with the Russians or would know about it, it would be Flynn.
	So if you can get him to talk, it would be worth giving him a great deal.
	Court papers say Flynn could get up to six months behind bars, but he was under scrutiny for other alleged crimes, including failing to disclose payments from Russian-backed companies and trying to orchestrate the kidnapping of a Turkish cleric in exchange for $15 million.
	Anthony.
	Jeff Begay.
	Thanks, Jeff.
	Now, I'm thinking this.
	And, you know, there's this crocodile tears about a lot of this, about, oh, I'm going to go broke, I have to cooperate.
	If nothing actually happened, which we believe to be true in terms of collusion, wouldn't this be a great opportunity for Flynn to turn himself in, plead guilty, and do a deal that gets him off the hook for all the other weird crap that he was doing?
	What would he have to give up for said deal?
	He just has to answer every question that has anything to do with anything on the lie detector.
	I mean, he's cooperating.
	Yeah.
	You know, whatever that means.
	Let's go to the last clip and we'll get a little wrap-up here.
	Let's go now to our Chief White House Correspondent, Major Garrett.
	Major, this is the first time current and former White House officials have been implicated in the investigation.
	What's the significance of that?
	Well, it reveals a high-level We're good to go.
	These revelations today do not necessarily suggest that either Jared Kushner or KT McFarlane committed a crime.
	The two issues involved, criticizing Israeli settlements and Russian reaction to new sanctions, would be relevant to any incoming administration.
	And engaging the Russians is something a presidential transition team might reasonably try to accomplish.
	But in the context of so many transition and White House denials about dealings with Russia, today's court revelations strongly contradict at least some of those denials, putting them in a sharply different context.
	So what is the White House saying about today's developments, Major?
	Well, the president was notified this morning and he considered it a sad event for sure for General Flynn and a serious crime for a three-star general retired to admit to.
	But the president still believes nothing that was revealed today threatens either him or his administration.
	And those close to the president tell us That he was neither angry nor frustrated by this particular development of the special counsel's investigation and reassured that nothing that Flynn pled guilty to touched his campaign and the actions that Flynn did plead guilty to dealt with him and him alone.
	And by the way, that contradicts the Brian Ross report where everyone's freaked out.
	Right.
	Of course, Ross is a sideline now for a month.
	The thing that's really taking place is, you know, stuff that we track on a more, you know, singular item level is, and it's very apparent when reading the face bag, is like, you know, this is the proof.
	The proof is here.
	Mueller is going to make it happen.
	These guys are all effed.
	And the details no longer matter.
	And this will go down in history.
	I mean, as just false facts.
	It's like the, you know, like what Trump said.
	You're famous, you can grab him by the pussy.
	No, no.
	What it is now is admitted sex offender.
	You know, it's that kind of, it's really a psychological operation.
	Well, the interesting thing is when I first found the Behar clip, it was on Twitter and some guy had pointed out how this And this alone is false news.
	It's fake news.
	But you would start to see it crop up as fact.
	Yes.
	All over the place.
	Well, he's done now.
	Wait a minute.
	It's already been disproven.
	The guy who did the report has been suspended.
	This is a major deal, by the way.
	You're not one of these guys that works on the network as an investigative reporter, one of the top guys, top men, and you get suspended for a month without pay?
	Yeah, and let's talk about that for a second, because, you know, from a journo perspective, what are the levels of discipline that you can get, and where does this particular disciplinary measure, where does it fit in on that scale?
	Well, you can get fired.
	That's your number one way.
	Why didn't he get fired?
	Because they like him.
	I think he presents himself well and he's very authoritative.
	He's good.
	But he's loose with the facts and he's done this before and I don't think he would have even gotten a suspension if he hadn't been caught doing stuff like this in the past.
	So one month without pay is a lot of money for a guy like that, for anybody.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I don't know what he makes, but he's not underpaid.
	I've never seen it.
	I've never seen it.
	Most of the time it's just reprimand and the nasty note in your file.
	I've never seen a guy suspended for a month.
	I mean, that's probably just under getting fired.
	Yeah.
	And I wonder why that?
	Why not fire?
	Well, you're right.
	I like him.
	And, of course, it still launched kind of a fake story that will go down in history as the story.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And Behar didn't help.
	She just passed on fake news.
	I have one last report.
	This is Pierre Thomas.
	He's on ABC. He's kind of the Jeff Pegues.
	He's somewhere between Pegues and...
	What's his name?
	Stephanopoulos.
	No, the guy who just got fired or didn't get fired.
	Charlie Rose.
	No.
	The guy we're talking about.
	Brian Ross.
	Oh, Brian Ross.
	He didn't get fired.
	He's in between the two guys a little bit.
	And I think he's credible.
	That one count of lying to the FBI. Robert Mueller, a seasoned prosecutor here.
	Is he trying to show as little of his hand as possible?
	David, make no mistake, Mueller approved this deal to get something.
	He's an aggressive KZ prosecutor who's been targeting the Trump campaign, the transition, and potentially the White House inner circle.
	Flynn now faces hours of FBI interrogations in the coming months, subject to lie detector tests along the way to prove he's telling the truth.
	Mueller wants to know, did Trump campaign officials and White House advisors know about any contacts with the Russians to impact the election?
	And David, those transition advisors mentioned in today's charges face the possibility of being called before a grand jury.
	And if they've already been interviewed, they better have told the truth.
	David?
	Peter Thomas with us tonight as well.
	Scary.
	Well, it's not ending anytime soon.
	It's going to be in the background for the next six months, at least.
	But, you know, the journos are on notice now.
	Hey, you got to be careful.
	Got to be careful with your sources.
	Because, you know, Brian Ross, I'm sure, is doing okay, even with a month's pay docked.
	But you don't want to be lower on any totem pole and have that happen to you.
	Yeah.
	I love Comey's reaction.
	Now we have the fired FBI director James Comey tweeting.
	So let me just share this with everyone.
	Here's the quote.
	But justice rolled down like waters and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream.
	If you actually look at his Instagram, it's this whole picture of a stream and rocks.
	Amos 524.
	What kind of guy does that?
	Nutball?
	I mean, it doesn't seem to fit with his character.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	Maybe he's a religious guy.
	I don't know.
	I just...
	I found it very peculiar.
	Yeah.
	How, Karin, do you interpret that?
	He's hammered, yeah.
	Here's Brooke and the CNN panel trying to figure it out.
	Comey doesn't tweet much, but when he does, he likes to quote important weighty things.
	I think this is him kind of sitting back and having his moment of thinking, ha, I said so, I knew it, I wasn't.
	I mean, look, the guy got pushed out of his job.
	Weighty things.
	This is the guy that says, lordy.
	Yes, very weighty.
	Lordy, lordy!
	Important weighty things.
	I think this is him kind of sitting back and having his moment of thinking, ha, I said so, I knew it, I wasn't wrong.
	I mean, look, the guy got pushed out of his job by the president, and it was connected to people that are involved in the events of today.
	And so he's clearly watching all this, he clearly has thoughts and feelings about that, and he's expressing it all in a tweet that is using somebody else's words, which is, if you look through his Twitter profile, it's how he tweets when he very seldom tweets.
	So that's just kind of, you know, the...
	Good work.
	Good investigative work.
	You look through his Twitter profile.
	The narrator voice off to the side, really, of James Comey remarking on this whole proceeding.
	And certainly, it's still...
	His firing is what touched off, you know, much of this, right?
	I mean, you can't take that out.
	Right, right.
	Had the president not gotten rid of Comey, there never would have been a special counsel.
	The special counsel would then never be looking at Michael Flynn and the very senior members of the Trump transition team that he apparently was speaking with when it came to doing what he, now he admits he lied about to the FBI. So...
	Do you hear?
	She's building this story and just lied, blah, blah, blah, blah, FBI, blah, blah, blah.
	And it just all sounds like they're all going to jail.
	It's just exactly what that defense attorney said.
	He was defending the convicted illegal immigrant who killed that girl.
	He says, hey, you know, these guys got to shut up because they're under investigation themselves.
	What do they know?
	Like, jeez.
	It's weird.
	That's not really a legal perspective.
	It's very weird.
	I actually have a clip here that's a little, not quite off topic, but I'll bring it up later.
	But this is a very funny lawyer clip here that's got to do with another story.
	So I'll just remind you when I play it, I'll re-mention.
	I do have one little sanctions issue, ABC wrong info question.
	We can play to get this out of the way.
	A sanctions issue.
	We know that Michael Flynn has now pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about conversations with the Russian ambassador.
	But many have pointed out, don't all incoming presidents and their teams start to reach out to other countries during the transition?
	Let's get to Dan Abrams tonight, our chief legal analyst.
	And Dan, we get it.
	Lying to the FBI is no good.
	But many people have pointed out that these transition teams often reach out to other governments.
	So what is it about this conversation that's a problem?
	Part of it is the timing.
	President Obama had just issued sanctions against the Russians for meddling in the election.
	Then you have Flynn effectively calling the Russians and saying, please don't retaliate.
	and then you have President Trump saying, "Oh, it's great that President Putin didn't retaliate." - Yeah.
	That's really... - Yeah, I gotta tell you, face bag has never been so entertaining And now we have this, the tax bill.
	Now, did the Senate pass a version of it last night?
	Is that what happened?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, it got passed at the last minute very late.
	You were probably in bed when it happened.
	I think it was like four in the morning or something.
	Yes, I'm sure I was in bed.
	Yeah, it got past 51 to 48 or 49.
	Oh, okay.
	So on the edge there, as expected.
	Well, it's always going to be on the edge.
	Democrats aren't going to refuse.
	I have a tax bill clip.
	Yeah, because then I want to read something from FaceBag.
	Okay, great.
	But let's play the tax bill clip.
	We'll catch up.
	This is not a great or long synopsis.
	It's just a little...
	little tidbits that that I picked up that I thought were funny.
	Initially get a tax break averaging twenty two hundred dollars, but only until 2025.
	Millions of Americans must be watching in stunned disbelief tonight.
	Democratic senators without enough votes to stop the bill could only protest.
	They're sending around their edits as we speak.
	Can you tell me what that word is?
	Retiring Tennessee Senator Bob Corker, the lone Republican holdout, was frustrated the bill added over a trillion dollars to the deficit over the next decade.
	It just came down to sort of the bump up between fiscal issues.
	And my concern about, you know, the long-term debt.
	The Senate's bill now heads into conference, where Republicans will work to reconcile it with the House version, ironing out key differences.
	Now, President Trump wants congressional Republicans to get him a final tax bill to sign before Christmas.
	This is in addition to other pending deadlines.
	Republicans are also preparing a two-week spending bill to avoid a government shutdown before federal funding runs out this upcoming Friday.
	Rena?
	Errol Barnett from the White House.
	Thank you, Errol.
	Now, a couple of things.
	One is the Democrats are making a huge fuss over, well, you know, they're going to have a tax break for the middle class, but it ends in 2025.
	They're going to be screwed.
	Now, 2025 is a long ways away.
	I think to get a nice tax break for eight years...
	Is it a sunset clause?
	Is that the idea?
	Yeah, something like that.
	This tax break ends.
	And you go back to your old taxes.
	I'm assuming it doesn't go up...
	Oh, come on.
	We know one thing for sure.
	Taxes always go up.
	I know, but I mean, it's not intended as a trick to go up.
	The other one is Wyden, the guy with the screwball voice from Oregon, who says the Republican, the electorate must be in stunned disbelief.
	What is he talking about?
	He's in stunned disbelief.
	The electorate is playing World of Warcraft.
	What are you talking about?
	I don't give a crap.
	And another one, this guy says, can you read this?
	And he points it a little.
	He said, there's a bunch of scribbling on half of these bills they're trying to.
	Yeah, they did the markup in red line.
	That was a big complaint I read about.
	And so I'm looking at it.
	I think it says aforementioned or acknowledgement or something.
	I saw the word.
	I don't remember specifically what it said, but when I saw it, I said, I could read it.
	So it's bullcrap.
	Now, I like to follow this stuff, and it's very hard to even get a hold of the right publication, and this was too long for me to get anything.
	The problem with this type of legislation, I like to read this.
	I really do.
	It's a hobby.
	I love it.
	They refer to the current law in almost everything.
	It's a change, and then it's like, okay, so insert this word and change that word for this word over in that document.
	And that's almost impossible to parse.
	In fact, it would be a great project for someone to put it together, so it would all be hyperlinked.
	How about that for a concept?
	Duh.
	Just a thought.
	The concept behind the tax bill, I understand, but I just have no idea what's in there now.
	And I'm just on the surface of it, I'm not thinking it's going to be all that great.
	What do you think?
	I would agree.
	They're never great.
	Unless they go to some radical change, like a flat tax or a reverse income tax or something really radical.
	It's just going to be a bunch of patchwork crap.
	Right.
	And it's going to benefit a few people that you won't find out about until after the thing's passed.
	Hmm.
	Adam's gonna read his face God, it's that one On the No Agenda show And this is from...
	That's a really bad one Sorry, I didn't realize that was the one.
	Anyway, let's get an opinion on what's going on regarding the tax bill from one of my facebag friends.
	This is a local Austin woman who used to live in California.
	She is in her early 60s.
	Code phrases.
	States' rights equals right to own slaves.
	Small government equals deregulation of industry and removal of consumer protections.
	GOP tax plan equals majority of citizens subsidizing increases that subjugate us to the greed of the 1% and the sycophants in Congress.
	Make America Great Again equals...
	If you voted for me, you're a self-defeating fool, a white nationalist, or a greedy SOB. I don't really care.
	I made my money bankrupting small businesses and manipulating the tax code.
	It'll be a cold day in Mar-a-Lago before I show you my returns.
	It's all a return to our murderous roots.
	Give the American Indians back their country.
	We've undone any good that may have emerged from our original sins of creation and are wallowing in shit.
	Turning away immigrants when virtually every one of us has immigrant roots.
	Denying health care, education, liberty, and most definitely the pursuit of happiness.
	I am disgusted that we cannot muster the national cohesion to recognize the devil is now in power.
	And the devil must be banished.
	And the devil's minions too.
	She's Jewish, by the way.
	How do these people get religion all of a sudden?
	I don't know.
	But, uh...
	Well, that's a person that's about to have a nervous breakdown.
	What?
	You know, a lot of people are on the verge.
	You can tell.
	The smallest thing triggers people these days.
	Yeah.
	Just the smallest things.
	Eh, oh well.
	Well, I want to hear more of these Facebook notes.
	I keep telling you this.
	Yeah, well, I just...
	I brought one.
	This is where you say, thank you.
	May I have more?
	Yes, thank you.
	May I have more?
	All right.
	Let me see.
	While we're in the A block, I think we're kind of done with the Brian Ross and Russia story.
	For now, it's a show day.
	Who knows what will be coming?
	Who knows?
	A little follow-up.
	I think we may have discussed this, but now it finally went through.
	EU diplomats have backed extending the use of the weed killer glyphosate.
	A new five-year license will enter into force after the current one expires on December the 15th.
	We're so disappointed.
	We see that those who are supposed to protect our environment and to protect our health are failing to do their job.
	They're basically not doing what they're supposed to do.
	They're betraying the trust that Europeans place in them, and they leave us with another five years of glyphosate, which contaminates our environment, contaminates our bodies, is in our food.
	It's hard to avoid.
	One study said glyphosate was probably carcinogenic, but others have found that it's safe.
	We are talking about...
	Hold on, I need to talk to our resident chemical expert, Dr.
	Dvorak.
	Glyphsophate, safe or not safe?
	We need a jingle for that.
	Safe or not safe?
	For people out there that don't know what we're talking about, this is Monsanto Roundup.
	Monsanto!
	Well, I don't know if it's safe or not safe.
	I think there's more evidence that it's very unsafe than there is any evidence that it's safe.
	Our bodies are in our food.
	It's hard to avoid.
	One study said glyphosate was probably carcinogenic, but others have found that it's safe.
	We are talking about a very widely used chemical substance that is considered safe.
	We use it in a very responsible manner in Europe.
	We are, by law, We're trained and our sprayers are tested quite frequently.
	And we are quite disappointed that all this work, and especially with the assessment of EFSA and ECA, European institutions, and in this case now European Member States representatives, went for a decision that certainly doesn't follow that consistency.
	The glyphosate decision created some considerable collateral damage within Germany's caretaker government.
	Instead of abstaining, as Berlin did before, the German representative on the council voted yes, following an order by the conservative agriculture minister and ignoring the expressed wish of the environment minister, a social democrat.
	Result?
	The social democrats were livid.
	Here's the tricky thing though.
	Merkel's conservatives are desperately courting the Social Democrats to form a new grand coalition.
	But SPD leaders are now decrying a breach of trust.
	Merkel, who was in Africa this week, reprimanded her conservative cabinet colleague, stopping short of firing him.
	A face-saving measure that won't make negotiations with the Social Democrats easier.
	Now, I left that bit on the clip because it shows there's a political issue with this in Germany.
	Yeah, I'm glad you did.
	And I think we are able to identify a media distraction in its very infancy, so infant, in fact, that I don't have a clip.
	But Germany has launched another issue...
	Now remember, this was glyphosate.
	Is that glyphosate?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Glyphosate.
	Now, from Germany comes now the threat, only the threat, but it's getting big, big headlines everywhere, starting in the UK, comes the threat.
	That the EU Parliament's Health Committee, which Germany has a large hand in, is going to object to allow the use of phosphate additives in such important meals as frozen kebab meat.
	And this is creating outrage.
	We've got glyphosate, we've got phosphate, so people are going to forget the Monsanto news, because shut up already, it's science.
	And I think this is what's going to grab the headlines.
	Well, this phosphate in kebabs, Turkish kebabs to be specific, caught me off guard because I don't know what they're talking about.
	I have no clips.
	I didn't even look into it that much because they said, what are they doing?
	What is in...
	Is it in the seasoning?
	I mean, what are we talking about?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Phosphate additives are used in many foods to enhance flavor and moisture in not only frozen meats used often in kebabs, but also in cheese, bran cereals, and other baked goods.
	However, a 2012 study found that phosphate is linked to heart disease, prompting some members of European Parliament to act, including Crystal Schadelmaus of Denmark.
	Is that like an MSG? Yes.
	I have no idea.
	I've never heard of this.
	I mean, I know about phosphoric acid being used in soda, but that's about it.
	I don't know anything about this phosphoric acid.
	Well, you need to know about it, because this is good drugs.
	I feel like I'm completely...
	It's my beak.
	I don't know what the hell's going on.
	Yeah.
	Well, this is also used, of course, in Savarma, which is my favorite meal whenever I'm in Amsterdam.
	And I guess it's going to ruin it.
	This is a disgusting meal.
	You keep discussing it.
	You don't like shawarma?
	Isn't it chopped kale and mashed potatoes?
	No, no, no, no.
	Shawarma is like kebab in a pita.
	It has a special garlic sauce and a little bit of lettuce and a little tomato.
	So it's like a hand roll?
	No, they slice the pita bread open at the top, then stuff in lettuce, tomato, and then kebab meat.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, they sell those in New York City.
	Yes.
	No, they sell them in Austin.
	They sell them everywhere.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I've had that.
	It's delicious.
	So, well, they're not going to be so delicious once they take the phosphate out, I guess.
	I don't know that.
	Well...
	Let's do some research.
	I think we should...
	Okay, let's go.
	Phosphates in food, I'll start there.
	Because it sounds like, because what I liked about MSG, which is monosodium glutamate.
	Monosodium glutamate.
	What I liked about MSG is that what it really did is it made you think the food was tastier.
	Now that's a groovy ingredient.
	Actually, what it gives it...
	I thought it affected your taste buds or your brain or something.
	It does an umami thing.
	Umami?
	Yeah, umami is the...
	Umami is like the eighth sense.
	It's like something you can't actually taste.
	It's just something you sense.
	And umami is in mushrooms and it's in MSG. Look it up.
	Look up umami.
	I think we have the umami of podcasting.
	All right.
	I'm looking at phosphates in food additives.
	Yes.
	Let's see what we got.
	What foods are high in phosphate?
	Phosphate additives in food, a health risk, according to the National something or other.
	NIH included.
	Let's see what it is.
	Is it sodium phosphate?
	Live strong.
	Phosphates in food, a health risk.
	Hyper blah blah blah has been identified in the past decade.
	At least mumble into the microphone.
	Sorry.
	I'm not still getting this.
	You apparently get chronic kidney disease.
	Nice.
	From some sort of phosphate.
	That sounds like a day wrecker.
	Yeah.
	Let's try this.
	Food additives.
	What is sodium phosphate?
	This must be all about sodium phosphate.
	Because this is the Livestrong website.
	Okay, any sodium, salt, or phosphoric acid, they're commonly used, added to food, and may serve a variety of purposes.
	Sodium phosphates have been well studied and are generally considered safe when used as a food additive.
	And this kind of contradicts the other thing.
	Sodium phosphate may refer to any of the three specific...
	Okay, okay, what is this supposed to do to you?
	All right, well, I'll get it started now.
	I'll work this out and figure out what the hell's going on.
	It's a emulsifier, a leavening agent, a surface active agent, a neutralizing agent, a nutrient.
	Nice.
	I don't know what they're using it with the kebabs for it.
	Kebabs just a...
	Well, maybe it's not even that important.
	Maybe it's just...
	Again, I introduced the story as a possible distraction from the Monsanto because Monsanto doesn't want this attention.
	Right.
	They don't want that.
	No, they don't.
	And everyone hates the Turks.
	And they're specifically talking about Turkish kebabs.
	So right.
	Yeah.
	But the thing is, the Brits love their kebab.
	Well, I don't know.
	Well, wait a minute.
	Hold on.
	Wasn't this German kebabs?
	Yeah, but while they're still in, this is an EU thing, while they're still in the EU, they'll have to adhere to it.
	So maybe it's interesting.
	It could be a, let's really Brexit, or it could be, hey, you know, let's just mess with those guys before we get rid of them.
	Nah, that's always a possibility.
	I wish they'd have more things to do with their time than something like that.
	You mean and destroy a good five minutes of no agenda show content?
	No, no, no.
	I don't think you're on the right track.
	So I run into this Turk who's a mechanic.
	A mechanical Turk.
	And he's from, I think he's from, he's not from Istanbul, but he's from somewhere in Turkey.
	And he starts telling, I was asking him questions, obviously, like you do with the cab drivers.
	And he says, Gulan is the best thing that's ever happened to Turkey.
	Really?
	Not, I'm sorry, what am I thinking?
	Not Gulan, but Erdogan.
	Erdogan, oh.
	Yeah, not Gulan.
	Erdogan, let me get this straight.
	Erdogan's the best.
	He says before Erdogan, if you went to a hospital, you'd wait for eight hours.
	Everything was falling apart.
	The infrastructure was crap.
	He says the whole country was falling apart.
	It was a mess.
	And he says especially the medical system, which was just down the toilet.
	He says ever since Gulen, or I keep wanting to say Gulen, but Erdogan got in, he's straightened that out.
	He's actually like a dictator, obviously.
	But he's straightening out the country.
	He says the place is very livable now.
	He says it's fantastic.
	And he goes on and on and on and on, singing this praise.
	He said, without Erdogan, we'd be screwed.
	It'd be a mess.
	And then he went on to condemn Gulen, who should be shot, according to him.
	Did you ask him why he wasn't back living in Turkey?
	He likes it here.
	Gee, no surprise.
	He's got relatives.
	He goes there all the time.
	He's got relatives there, and he just says it's just like night and day.
	He says pre-Erdogan, the place was hellish.
	And he says now it's like all the new hospitals.
	He's built hospitals all over the place.
	He's put new infrastructure in.
	The place has been modernized.
	And he says you can go.
	And he named about 10 little cities.
	He said check these cities out before and after.
	They're old, crappy, old dirt roads, and now they're all fancy and new.
	He says the people love him.
	Well, I think...
	This is not the story we're getting here.
	No, this is definitely not the story I'm getting from the Uber drivers, but maybe it's different from the cab.
	No, this wasn't a cab.
	Who was this guy?
	No, this is a mechanic.
	The mechanic.
	Auto mechanic.
	Yeah, the mechanical Turk.
	Right.
	Well, keep talking.
	I think there's something...
	I think he's...
	I mean, he just may be a maven, you know, a fanatic, but...
	It seems to me that he was...
	Because I checked a few of these things out and there is a modernization process going on.
	Right.
	Which is one of the things that caused that...
	You know, he was going to...
	But I thought they went completely...
	You know, secularism is gone.
	Yeah, that seems...
	It seems to be...
	Yeah, that's...
	That's kind of the...
	I think that's mostly propaganda.
	We need to get some Turkish experts.
	Do we have listeners in Turkey?
	I don't think we have any.
	I don't think we have any.
	Maybe some guy passed through once.
	I don't think so.
	Well, we're looking at you, Boots on the Ground, in Turkey.
	We need some help here.
	Be able to deconstruct this.
	Because that's very...
	I mean, Turkey is such an important country when it comes to, you know, the pipelines for energy.
	Yeah, everything.
	The immigrants.
	I don't believe anything the media tells us.
	I think the whole thing could be...
	I think the guy could be right.
	With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C, where the C stands for Chemist Dvorak.
	Well, thanks for jumping the gun on that.
	In the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all ships at sea.
	Boots on the ground, feet in the air.
	Subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there, of course.
	Yes, and in the morning to the troll room, noagendastream.com.
	Thank you for being here, as always, and participating in the program.
	It's highly appreciated.
	And in the morning to Illuminati-a.
	She brought us the artwork for episode 9 or 8-6.
	The title of that was Fruit Machine.
	And it was a very nice original piece of work.
	It was like a drawing on an animal hide.
	You know, like you'd see as an archaeological discovery.
	Right, like archaeological.
	Yeah, some archaeologists had come up with it.
	And also, just on the topic of Fruit Machine, before we launch into thanking some of our executive and associate executive producers, After the show, we started looking around at this fruit machine.
	Yeah, you found it.
	Yes, and so this is the gaydar that now...
	You know what?
	Forget it.
	I even have a clip.
	What am I doing here?
	We'll do it after the...
	This is a tease.
	We got great stuff about the fruit machine.
	So, Illuminati, thank you very much.
	We appreciate that.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can go and upload all of your clips.
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	It worked out.
	Okay, so we start off with Baron Mark Workman, Baron of Galt's Gulch.
	And he sent in a check with no note.
	For $543.21 from Dayton, Ohio.
	So I've got no jingles, no karma, no note.
	NJNKNN. Yeah, NJNKNN. NJNKNN. NJNKNN. Got it.
	NJNKNN. Nice.
	Thank you.
	Want to go through that again?
	Wait, hold on.
	One more time fast?
	Yeah.
	Come on, go.
	NJNKNN. NJNKNN. I think you've got something there.
	Sir Tom McRod Adams came in with $333.33 from Sir Rod.
	From Sir Tom McRod, he writes, currently baron of the Blue Ridge.
	Request for a barony change from the Blue Ridge Mountains to Florida Suncoast.
	Oh, wow.
	I will no longer be able to oversee my former lands due to a relocation to be closer to our grand human resources.
	Can I have Two little girl yeas and some travel karma for our planned period of being homeless vagabonds between abodes.
	Wow.
	So that means the Blue Ridge Mountains are open.
	So in other words, he's, yes, which there's plenty of takers too, I'll bet.
	You know, so in other words, he's, the kids move to Florida to get rid of the, you know, get away from the parents and...
	Yeah, and then the parents follow.
	Oh no!
	Oh no!
	Yay!
	Yay!
	Karma.
	Good try, kids.
	I don't think so.
	I'm going to do that to my kid later, too.
	Great idea.
	Hey!
	We moved in next door.
	Hi!
	Yeah, you might as well.
	Sir Todd Cochran, 333, from Night Todd Cochran.
	Hey, Todd Cochran, Mr.
	Blueberry.
	Adam, keep an eye out for the special delivery coming your way in a few weeks.
	It's going to blow your mind.
	Ah!
	That said, send me your emailing or your mailing address.
	2017 has been an incredibly successful year for my company and personal podcasts.
	I do not want to jinx it by not getting a donation to the best podcasts in the universe.
	That's so kind.
	To all the douchebags out there, don't be a Grinch.
	Donate today.
	I just need some karma to close out the year and prepare for 2018.
	Much aloha.
	Night, Todd.
	Thank you very much, Todd.
	That's highly appreciated, man.
	Glad you got a good year.
	You've got karma.
	I'm very happy for you.
	He should be, I'm the podfather, he should be known as Mr.
	Podcasting.
	I mean, that guy is doing, he's done so much for the podcast community.
	Truly.
	Do you have anything on this note that presages the word lavender?
	I'm sorry?
	Do you have anything on this next note from SirCal, who came up with $333 from Northville, Michigan, that says any wordage before the word lavender?
	Because that's the only thing that's at the top of my thing.
	I can't get past it.
	Okay.
	Well, yeah.
	I think I have a whole cell here.
	Yeah, I have a whole cell, too.
	Well, I see the website, Lavender Blossoms.
	Let me read it.
	Yeah, read it.
	SirCal333 from Northville, Michigan.
	I used to be a dude named Ben, but three years ago I quit the cubicle life and started farming lavender and medicinal herbs.
	Oh!
	Oh, now I got a delivery notification from some lavender blossoms.
	I'm like, what did I order?
	Okay, I guess he said something.
	Okay.
	Comfrey, Feverfew, Chamomile, etc.
	Now I'm a farmer named Cal.
	Along with my wife Jeanette, who was a nurse, and cult follower Drew, we created some unique blends infused with these beautiful herbs and packages, moisturizers, sprays, essential oils, and CBD products.
	A plethora of natural products for all kinds of medical conditions.
	Say no to Big Pharma.
	Would you be kind enough to help a farmer out by mentioning our website, www.lavenderblossoms.org, and the coupon code ITM for a small token of appreciation for our NA clan.
	Speaking of NA, thanks for a decade of entertainment.
	You have the magic to turn hours of pulling weeds or manually labeling thousands of products into pleasure.
	Almost always with happy endings.
	I've been a listener for five years, nighted on show 666, and probably a triple night by now.
	Eh, who cares about it?
	Just call me Sir Cal.
	Jingle request, tell me about your sexuality.
	Okay, you gotta read those for me, because I, of course, was reading and couldn't get it all set.
	Yeah.
	Okay, let me get to that.
	Jingle request, tell me about your sexuality.
	Yeah.
	Hillary chuckle.
	Do we have a chuckle?
	We have a cackle, I think.
	Chuckle, cackle, same thing.
	Yeah, I got it.
	Advertising.
	Yeah, okay.
	I'm sorry.
	Small business goat karma.
	Yeah.
	So he's got goats, but he says they can't scream.
	So all he needs is the sexuality, the chuckle, and the goat karma.
	Tell me about the sexuality.
	It's in your DNA. You've got...
	I don't think that was it.
	No, but it worked.
	Yeah, it worked for me.
	I was going to say, you know who I met the other day last week?
	I forgot to mention it.
	Chad from Colorado.
	Remember Chad?
	He's the EMT. He's the one that had the funniest note about the toilet paper roll when he was biking.
	We laughed our ass off about that.
	No, you don't remember.
	Oh, yeah.
	He's the one that told us about the Narcan, like he gives someone, you know, he's an EMT, so...
	Oh, right.
	He's the guy who talked about the guy being hyped up on meth.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Just knock the heroin down, and he'd be a meth head, and he'd go nuts.
	Exactly.
	So he was in Austin last weekend, and Tina and I went to see him.
	We had a drink, and he's doing well.
	He says hi.
	And here's the kind of guy he is.
	He's like, yeah, I'm just a little woozy.
	Oh, why is that?
	Well, I did a bone marrow transplant for somebody.
	When was this?
	Two days ago.
	What?
	So apparently they'd gone to the fire station, you know, the hospital, and they said, hey, where can we get some virile men who could be donors?
	And this was two years ago.
	And everyone's like, ah, shit, sign me up.
	Here's my DNA. And all of a sudden, he got a call.
	Some guy in Korea needed bone marrow.
	It's like a 12-hour process.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's supposed to be agonizing.
	Oh, and they're literally just cycling blood through your system.
	What a guy.
	Anyway, so his dad is like a real blue-collar worker, you know, worked a steel worker all his life.
	And so he was visiting them, and, you know, this guy, he had, like, thrown his brother out of the house one time because he was smoking some weed.
	You know, he was really anti all that.
	So, you know, they start talking about the dispensaries in Colorado, and says, because he has really bad arthritis, and Chad says, well, hey, why don't we go get some CBD oil and see how it goes?
	And apparently it was quite funny, because, you know, he felt like it was all illegal, and even though it's not, he felt really weird inside the dispensary.
	And he puts it on his hands.
	Who?
	His dad.
	His dad.
	His dad has arthritis.
	Once you get in there a few times, you notice a bunch of old women in there.
	It's not uncomfortable.
	So he says, here's this guy, steel worker.
	And he says, look, maybe it's my brain.
	They were in the car on the way home.
	He says, I already feel it working.
	He says, I already feel it working.
	And this is a guy who's really against the whole idea.
	So, anyway.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Unbelievable.
	So yeah, I'm a big fan.
	I got a pot report later in the show.
	Ooh.
	Hey, that's my beat.
	What are you doing on my beat?
	I'm the one that's always promoting pot.
	You're the one who's...
	Your beat is smoking it.
	Oh yeah, I'm sorry.
	Which I think will actually have something to do with this clip.
	All right, last.
	Last we got Brian Ladekin.
	Wait, wait, no.
	Timothy Pierce I see here.
	Oh, yeah, no.
	This is Timothy Pierce.
	He was on two shows ago, three shows ago, the same donation with no note, note from the 14th, which I read last show, and I read it before, and I'm not reading it again.
	You sure that he's not donating over and over again, just sending us the same note?
	He's not sending the same note.
	He only has one notice from the 14th.
	Well, then what's going on here?
	We're in December.
	I don't know.
	I think it got carried over for some unknown reason.
	But I'll say Timothy Pierce, $333, no note.
	Maybe he can straighten this out.
	Baron Ladequin in Houston, $200.
	ITM, nighted on show 978, but never de-douched.
	Oh, no.
	Well, let's do that now.
	You've been de-douched.
	Then he asks, does that make me a black douche?
	Well, I have to ask, are you black?
	A black douche.
	Anyway, thorough dedouching.
	Anyhow, Merry Christmas and thank you guys for all you do and that's about it.
	I'm glad you got your dedouching in there.
	Fantastic.
	I do have a couple of notes from people, and I do have the list, and I'm going to read this separately, the list of everyone who donated over 50 pounds in the UK. Oh, in the UK, at the meetup, yes.
	I can do that now, or I can do it at the beginning of the next seminar, but I have to do it before the nighting, because there's a couple of nights.
	Then why don't you just do it now, because this was a light list anyway.
	Yeah, it was.
	So I will.
	Let me grab the notes.
	The notes in a special spot.
	All right, let's start with Toby Langford, who is from Birmingham.
	And by the way, I'm going to talk to people about these notes in the envelopes.
	It's nice to have in the envelope, it's nice to have your name and where you're from, because nobody did.
	And your actual full name, if you can, or just a nickname, if you want to use that.
	And then if there's a note, you know, it would be nice.
	Anyway, Toby Langford, Birmingham, 50 pounds.
	Kaz, to be knighted.
	You might as well get your pen out.
	Oh, hold on.
	Kaz.
	Kaz.
	K-A-Z? Kaz?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay, Kaz.
	He donated 50 pounds, and he already had enough to be knighted as Sir Kaz of the 30 Trees.
	Sir Kaz of the 30 Trees.
	Yeah, the 30 Trees.
	He actually dropped off a card.
	Doesn't really say anything except Nightmare is Sir Kaz, and he's got us.
	It's a funny card.
	Leslie and Dan, 33 pounds.
	I have note.
	By the way, 50 pounds is $66.66.
	I thought that was interesting.
	She wrote a little short little note that was actually kind of pleasant.
	I was going to read it.
	I had a long chat with her.
	She was trying to bring her dad to the thing.
	He didn't want to come?
	No, he did want to come, but he couldn't make it.
	Oh, too bad.
	Yeah, here's another 10 years.
	My dad is a veteran listener to the show, and he was really hoping to get him some time off work to swing by the meetup.
	So this donation is from...
	My dad and I. He introduced me to the show two years ago, and I haven't missed an episode since.
	There you go.
	Nice.
	Keep up the great work, and I have an excellent time in London.
	And there you have it.
	That's Leslie and Dan.
	Dan's the dad.
	Sir Robert Clayson, one of our regulars, $100.
	Sir Nuked-to-be.
	Now, he has 200 in, and he's going to...
	There's another pen.
	You've got to write this down.
	I'm ready.
	Again, no...
	Let me get the note.
	This is a knighting?
	It's going to be, yeah.
	Yep.
	He never gives off the name or anything.
	He just said, Sir Nuked to be.
	So he's going to be a...
	Oh, wait.
	No, he's not going to be a knighting.
	He's going to eventually be Sir Nuked.
	Ah, okay.
	Gotcha.
	And...
	But he never left a name except Nuked.
	So, I don't know what to tell you.
	Okay, onward.
	Doug Kitzig, 50 pounds.
	And Sir Nuked to be with his 200.
	Sir Luke Rainier, Baron of London, 50 pounds.
	He has a note.
	Nuked to be.
	These are the big ones.
	Sir Rainier.
	Yeah, here it is.
	I never thought I'd see a meet-up here in my barony.
	He's the Baron of London.
	Yeah, of course.
	I've included this donation with a 50-pound note as they're being rare because a lot of people won't even take them, he says.
	And so he's doing himself a favor because he can't get anyone in.
	A lot of shops won't take them.
	Did you know this?
	No.
	As of today's exchange...
	Wait, because it's not plastified or it's not the plastic money?
	I don't know.
	He just says they won't take him.
	As of today's exchange rate, this donation is 666.66.
	Keep up the great work.
	Hope to see Adam here at some point, Sir Luke.
	Onward.
	Richard Footer, 250 pounds.
	And he has a note.
	So he'll be an executive producer.
	Well, actually, no, that'll be over 300, won't it?
	Yeah.
	He'll be an executive producer.
	Okay, so we're going to do these names after the show.
	You're going to give them to me again because I didn't follow everything.
	Okay, good.
	Like, oh, no.
	Was I supposed to write down the executive producers, too?
	Just write down the nights.
	Okay.
	I've been listening since The Burning Man when hit in the mouth by Sir Matt Wittering.
	I've been hooked ever since.
	Listened to your shows at least twice during my morning and evening commutes.
	So he's a guy who listens twice.
	Still on the road to be knighted.
	Didn't want a blog off one.
	So let the time pass before I next donate.
	Love everything you guys do.
	Thanks for saving me from being another zombie millennial.
	Yes, that's what we do.
	You're welcome.
	Yeah.
	We'll be an executive producer for this show.
	Happy to help.
	Richard Footer and then Sir John South London.
	Uh, $200 half note.
	He'll also be a, uh, he'll be, what does that get to?
	I don't know.
	50 is 3666 times 4.
	Um, no, I don't, it just doesn't, he'll be a associate executive producer.
	All right.
	And I do have a note from him.
	Um, please find and close $200.
	Hope you enjoy the trip.
	That's it.
	Nothing really.
	These notes are very, uh, not, non-elaborated.
	Uh, Nuked.
	I got Nukes note.
	I should read it.
	Long time boner, first time donor.
	Accept my 200 and cold hard.
	Sterling is my first contribution to the BPITU. Been too afraid to donate via PayPal.
	You guys need to set up a Bitcoin address.
	Can you help my two girls to shout?
	I need to shout out for his two girls.
	Hello, girls.
	Elise 8 and Saskia 5.
	Yay!
	They get subjected to your show every time they're in the car.
	Very good, girls.
	And he needs a de-douching with John saying, you knowbert.
	Okay, here we go.
	You've been de-douched.
	You knowbert.
	Okay, I think that covers it.
	I have one more note here.
	It's a note that was hand-delivered to me yesterday here in Austin from Brandon Toy of the Michigan Local One.
	Oh, Michigan Local 1.
	Michigan Local 1 was in the house, or in town, and he delivered a scroll, which I was notified.
	We have a messenger from Michigan Local 1 with a scroll.
	This is parchment paper.
	It has the ever-recognizable night ring implant on some sealing wax, so we know it's official.
	Be it known...
	In the year of our Lord, 2017, that the no-agenda producers of Michigan Local One request the visit of Adam Clark Curry, beloved among us as the crackpot, and his royal consort, the keeper, to our lands in the near future, the undersigned of Gitmo Nation Mitten.
	Brandon Toy, Sir Timothy Kiernan, Baronet of the No-Fix Title, Sir Vix, Baron of the Hot Southern Bush, Sir Nick, Dragon of the Four Domains, Sir Mark, the Wandering Knight, Brian and Susie Churchill, and Lisa...
	I think it's...
	Beimer?
	Bemer?
	Hmm.
	Don't know.
	So that means we've got to go.
	You should.
	Michigan's fantastic.
	It's a very entertaining place.
	But you're going to demand, because since you would be their leader, somebody to take you over to the Packard plant and also the old train station, which has been abandoned, for sightseeing.
	Okay.
	In Detroit.
	Detroit is fabulous sightseeing, even though a lot of the good stuff has been torn down.
	I've been told that it's probably best to do the meetup in Ann Arbor.
	Yes, but that's a short drive.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it's like 45 minutes or something.
	It's not that bad.
	I don't even think that's long.
	But yes, Ann Arbor is the place you do the meetup, but you definitely want to tour Detroit.
	It's fantastic.
	Yeah, so we're going to have to do that.
	We're going to have to plan that.
	We've got a lot of stuff we've got to plan.
	We've got to get through Christmas first.
	Holy moly.
	All right, everybody.
	Thank you very much.
	Special thanks to people who came to meetups and came to Austin and everybody who's helping out.
	These are executive and associate executive, well, executive producers and one associate executive producer.
	Actual credits you can use anywhere.
	They're recognized by the Producers Guild of America and other associations because we're a real show.
	We've been around for a while.
	And we do this based solely on your support.
	So please think of us for our show on Thursday.
	Dvorak.org slash N-A. And today being a show day, you never know what you might find out there.
	Remember to propagate our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Shut up, slave.
	Shut up.
	Shut up, slave.
	Now, we were talking, just the beginning of the B-block there, about the fruit machine.
	Ah!
	Yes, the fruit machine.
	Let me tell you, I actually had forgotten what the topic was, and I asked the troll room, and they reminded me.
	The fruit machine.
	So, there is this...
	Actually, there's a...
	I did a little bit of looking into this organization.
	It's called the We Demand an Apology Network.
	They're the ones who started this all off, and they wanted, well, I'll just read you a little bit of the introduction here.
	The We Demand an Apology Network demands an apology for the historical wrongs committed by the Canadian government against LGBT people.
	I notice there's no two-spirit on their demand.
	Letterhead.
	The We Demand Apology Network demands an apology for the historical wrongs committed by the Canadian government against LGBT people.
	We bring together people who were directly affected by the national security campaigns to purge homosexuals from public service.
	The RCMP and the military and supporters and researchers who believed an injustice was done.
	And so this is a lot of text they got on this website, but they're the ones that came up with the idea of really reparations in a way.
	Money.
	Money, money, money.
	And I'm going to give you just a quick backgrounder.
	Here's Trudeau, who we played on the last show.
	A number of clips about this apology and how just inhumane it was.
	And here's a bit about the outfit behind it, this We Demand an Apology Network.
	We also thank members of the We Demand an Apology Network, our LGBTQ2 Apology Advisory Council, And the Just Society Committee for EGAL, as well as the individuals who have long advocated for this overdue apology.
	There you go.
	So we looked up these fruit machines.
	Yeah, that's what they called them.
	Yeah, and we both said, almost simultaneously, wow, I think you said, what a collectible, and I said, yeah, I really need one of these.
	Oh my God.
	Beautiful.
	And as you look a little further, the manufacturer went on to create the Church of Scientology e-meters.
	Yeah, they look the same.
	It's the same technology.
	Only there's more knobs and buttons and little switches and gears and whatever, all kinds of crazy stuff on the fruit machine.
	The E-meters are pretty simple.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's just, I think it's an abstraction, really, of what the GADAR was.
	But if you look at it, it's the Matheson.
	Matheson went on to make the E-meters.
	It's called the Electro-Psychometer.
	I would guess this has been debunked more than a few times.
	I want one of these so badly.
	Oh, me too.
	Oh my goodness.
	Wouldn't you love to have that?
	I have a Geiger counter from the World War II, one of those yellow ones.
	I like that.
	That's beautiful.
	I have a Geiger counter.
	Yeah, those are cool.
	And it still works.
	But to have one of these in my collection?
	Oh, man.
	And it kind of begs the question, when the e-meters were used, based on the exact same principle, what was the Church of Scientology thinking?
	Let's find gays?
	I have no idea.
	I haven't got a clue.
	I don't know.
	You'd have to find some insider in the Church of Scientology.
	Yeah.
	They'd have to go way back, because this e-meter thing was used, I think, when...
	Probably not long.
	During the Dianetics era.
	Right, which was what, the 70s, 60s, 70s?
	I think it was the 60s.
	Right, and that's the same time as the Purge.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I have no idea.
	Maybe they just went gays, but that didn't work out for Scientologists.
	You know, what's interesting about it, there's always been the story that Ron L. Hubbard, he made this, that was a bet, he made up the whole church, and it was on the back of a napkin in a bar, and ha ha ha ha, and I'll write about this stuff, and I'll show you that I can make it happen.
	I got a better story from Jerry Purnell, who used to be his good friend.
	But all I'm going to say, in addition to that, then I want to hear the Purnell story, of course.
	Rip.
	Maybe he went, hey, if that's not funny enough, watch this.
	Let me get this fruit machine from the Canadians and we'll use it to clear people with their e-meter status.
	Yeah.
	That's...
	That kind of sounds like it.
	So what did Purnell have to say about it?
	Purnell said the whole thing was a beef that Hubbard had with the government, especially the tax guys.
	By taxes, yeah.
	And he decided to start a religion, and then he took it to the extremes to tell the government to screw off, but they still kept coming after him.
	I guess he had back taxes.
	I don't know what his tax status was, but apparently it wasn't good.
	And that's when he had the retreat to the boat.
	Stay on that thing.
	Ah, that's when the Sea Org started, I think.
	Yeah.
	But no, it was all about taxes and the government.
	It wasn't a lark.
	Right.
	Okay, but then it still holds true.
	It's like, okay, I'll just, you know, it's a lark.
	Eh, let me just...
	It's not a lark.
	A lark is just do it to goof off.
	He did it with a purpose in mind.
	Right, and then he took it really seriously by putting the...
	taking the fruit machine.
	I just love that.
	Well, we don't know that.
	No, but I'm...
	He could have even sold a bill of goods by that manufacturing company.
	Possibly.
	He could have invented it, or he may have dreamed it up himself as not an...
	I think it's a Wheatstone Bridge.
	I'm not sure the name of it.
	It's a galvanic response device, and it's simple.
	It's like a simple light detector.
	Yeah, a light detector, basically.
	But it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of the fruit machine.
	It has all kinds of buttons and knobs.
	I love the meters.
	The meters have 20 different scales on it, all kinds of lines and colors.
	It's fantastic.
	Yeah, there's a line, gay.
	Oh, wait, here we go.
	Oh, just the catalog?
	Yeah, I'm looking at eBay.
	Just the catalog alone for the Model E54? The catalog.
	From 1953.
	Electro-psychometer.
	$500 just for the catalog.
	Oh, jeez.
	Oh, this is bad news.
	Apparently somebody discovered these long before we did.
	Yeah, and went, ha, collectible.
	Oh, man.
	You know the other thing I want to get a hold of?
	What?
	I want to get a hold of an Enigma machine.
	I've played with a couple of them.
	Two people I know have them.
	Really?
	Or two organizations have them.
	One of them is Silicon Valley.
	And I saw another one at some trade show.
	And I typed a little message in it.
	It's kind of cool.
	But most of them that are floating around for sale are in immaculate condition.
	Okay, we have two things we need.
	So we're talking about the German device.
	Yeah, the code machine.
	Yeah, the code machine.
	Yeah, but this other thing, this new thing, the fruit machine, I never heard of this thing, but this has got to be great to have.
	Now, just switching gears here, there was an article in the New York Times, actually an op-ed, I should say, by Jill Filipovich.
	I don't know who she is.
	Actually, I do know she used to work at the Times.
	I think she then went on to work for the Guardian and stuff.
	And I liked it because it kind of corroborates a bit with some of our thinking regarding the hashtag MeToo.
	Oh, we need our sexual update.
	We do?
	I got a sexual update for us.
	No, we need the...
	You need a jingle.
	Yeah, the jingle.
	And now it's time for your sexual harassment update.
	There we go.
	Sexual harassment update.
	So this op-ed is titled The Men Who Cost Clinton the Election.
	And I'll just read a bit of it.
	Matt Lauer, like Charlie Rose and Mark Halperin before him, is a journalist out of a job after his employer fired him for sexually harassing female colleagues.
	It's good news that real penalties are now leveled on men who harass after centuries of the cost mostly befalling the women who endure harassment.
	And then she goes on to say...
	Mark Halperin and Charlie Rose set much of the televised political discourse on the race, interviewing other pundits, opinioning, opining themselves, and obsessing over the electoral play-by-play.
	Mr.
	Rose, after the election, took a tone similar to Mr.
	Lauer's with Mrs.
	Clinton, talking down to her, interrupting her, portraying her as untrustworthy.
	Mr.
	Halperin was a harsh critic of Mrs.
	Clinton, painting her as ruthless and corrupt, while going surprisingly easy on Mr.
	Trump.
	And then I did a little bit before this...
	I'm not completely buying that argument.
	I watched Hal Brennan and his friend John, who I know, I don't think he was going that easy on anybody.
	But the argument is not him going easy.
	The argument is, you'll recall, Matt Lauer interviewed Mrs.
	Clinton and Mr.
	Trump in an official commander-in-chief forum for NBC. He notoriously peppered and interrupted Mrs.
	Clinton with cold, aggressive, condescending questions hyper-focused on her emails, only to pitch softballs at Mr.
	Trump.
	So forget the easy on other politicians.
	I'm not going to argue that one.
	This goes back to the takedown.
	Why did this happen?
	And we've got three guys who Hillary hates.
	And you've got the New York Times.
	You're putting two and two together.
	I'm connecting the dots, baby.
	Could be.
	I mean, why not?
	Why not?
	I don't know why they go after Harvey Weinstein.
	No, no, no.
	Look, the cat's out of the bag.
	Now it's just, who are the targets?
	We could think, John, you and I know at least one person right now today on this show we could destroy his career.
	We do?
	Yes.
	Of course we do.
	Okay.
	Well, we don't do that because we're not vindictive and we don't have an axe to grind with everybody.
	We've got an axe with everybody, but not anybody.
	So, you know, I think this is being misused, abused for all kinds of personal vendettas, all kinds of gain.
	Yeah, well, that's definitely going on.
	Well, since you played the jingle, let's play the update.
	And I have an update and I have a follow-up clip we already played.
	I chopped it down a little bit to get...
	Because there's a new piece of information in here which leads me to believe that NBC... This is full of crap about a lot of this stuff.
	But let's play the Matt Lauer.
	This is the final.
	And then at the very end, they kick it up by also kind of indicting Russell Simmons, the hip-hop guy.
	He was kind of using his power over her.
	According to Variety magazine, several women say they complained to executives at the network about Lauer's behavior, which fell on deaf ears given the lucrative advertising surrounding today.
	Jeff Zucker.
	The former president of NBCUniversal, who led the Today Show when he was just 26, had this to say.
	Obviously, I've known Matt for 25 years, and I didn't know this Matt.
	And NBC's current management...
	Oh, it's getting so close.
	The fire's getting hot for him.
	I've known Matt for 25 years, and I didn't know this Matt.
	And NBC's current management doubled down, releasing a statement unequivocally denying any prior knowledge of complaints about Matt Lauer's conduct.
	But Variety Magazine is questioning the validity of that statement.
	It is at odds with our reporting.
	We had talked to dozens of former and current staffers who say that there was general knowledge within all ranks of NBC, between staffers, high-ranking executives, other anchors that were on air with Matt.
	Knowing, detailing, speaking about what Matt was doing, pursuing women.
	You wish me well.
	Matt Lauer's firing is also bringing the tearful departure of Ann Curry back into the headlines.
	Curry is now speaking out about Lauer's firing, telling People Magazine she is still processing it.
	Adding, the women's movement got us into the workplace, but it didn't make us safe once we got there.
	And the battle lines are now clear.
	We need to move this revolution forward and make our workplaces safe.
	And Lindsey Davis back with us here tonight.
	And this evening, we're also learning details about what NBC News employees were told by their boss after Matt Lauer's firing.
	Yeah, and David, he would not give the details about that complaint, but he did describe a power dynamic at play, which he said made the encounters inappropriate.
	All right, Lindsay Davis leading us off.
	Lindsay, thank you.
	And one more major name, music and movie mogul Russell Simmons resigning from all of his companies today after facing a new claim of sexual assault.
	Screenwriter Jenny Lumet writing in The Hollywood Reporter about the incident from 1991 when she says she was around 24 years old.
	Claiming Simmons offered her a ride home, then locked the car doors and had the driver take her to his home, where she says he sexually assaulted her.
	Simmons denies the assault, saying he remembers the night differently, but apologizes for being thoughtless and insensitive in relationships over the years.
	We do move on to...
	Yeah.
	Please move on.
	Now, I want to go back on the comment that the Variety guys just said.
	It doesn't match our reporting.
	We talked to a bunch of guys.
	I want to go...
	Swing back to the original day Laura was fired, and just play a piece of what Savannah Guthrie was reading, which was the memo that came in from Andy Lack, and this is the Andy Lack memo, and then I have a comment about this.
	Okay, hold on.
	Yes, the Lack memo.
	Just moments ago, NBC News Chairman Andy Lack sent the following note to our organization.
	Dear colleagues, on Monday night we received a detailed complaint from a colleague about inappropriate sexual behavior in the workplace by Matt Lauer.
	It represented, after serious review, a clear violation of our company's standards.
	As a result, we have decided to terminate his employment.
	While it is the first complaint about his behavior in the over 20 years he has been at NBC News, We were also presented with reason to believe this may not have been an isolated incident.
	Okay.
	Okay, first complaint, this has never happened.
	Gosh, we're stunned by this.
	The Variety reporter contradicted that, and so I like to ask the question, How can you trust a news organization, NBC, if they lie about their own situation?
	This is a lie that they never got a complaint before.
	Because once the Variety guys started looking into it, there were tons of complaints.
	Everybody knew what was going on with this guy.
	And I would say Savannah Guthrie knew, too, as she read this thing with the crocodile tears.
	So this is bullcrap.
	This just tells me that NBC is a bad news organization.
	They lie.
	They're liars.
	Yeah.
	Well, they hire liars.
	Liar hires.
	Liars hires.
	How about Brian Williams?
	Another liar.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, they lie over there.
	Yeah.
	What's always cool, though, is when you've had a 20 or 25-year television career, and I think he's 25 because he worked at VH1. It was way below us.
	There's a lot of material.
	There's a lot of fun stuff.
	I just love over and over showing him being all self-righteous about women.
	But Norm MacDonald, who I think is an undervalued comic, he hosted the...
	He's an acquired taste.
	He is an acquired taste.
	He hosted the White House Correspondents Dinner years ago.
	It's been great to be in Washington, I can tell you that, man.
	Oh my God, I had a lovely stay here so far.
	I've been sightseeing, you know, and...
	In fact, I stopped at a museum.
	This is probably interesting to you guys.
	They have this news museum now.
	Have you seen this?
	It's a museum that's dedicated to broadcast journalism.
	And they have all sorts of, you know, tributes to Edward R. Murrow and such, you know.
	And they have this one fascinating place.
	It's kind of an interactive display.
	And visitors, what they can do is they can appear on camera and pretend that they are real journalists, you know.
	So far, it's been visited 20 times by Matt Lauer.
	I thought that was pretty good yeah Matt Lauer.
	He's always been the joke of the industry.
	Yeah, well.
	Poor guy.
	No more.
	Oh, yeah.
	So Pelosi finally changed her tune, Nancy Pelosi, about Representative Conyers.
	How can you have a call on him to resign?
	I said you smacked your lip.
	Oh, no.
	It's the new setup.
	It's not me.
	Fine.
	Well, the allegations against Congressman Conyers, as we have learned more since Sunday, are serious, disappointing, and very credible.
	It's very sad.
	The brave women who came forward are owed justice.
	I pray for Congressman Conyers and his family and wish them well.
	However, Congressman Conyers should resign.
	As Dean, Congressman Conyers has served our Congress for more than five decades and shaped some of the most consequential legislation of the last half century.
	However, zero tolerance means consequences for everyone.
	No matter how great the legacy, it's no life to harass or discriminate.
	So she's very clear, but still, you know, he's been a great guy.
	Fabulous.
	His lawyer is a whole different story, though.
	Did you see this guy?
	Kanye's lawyer?
	No, not that I recall.
	Ah, this guy is great.
	He's a black guy with a bow tie.
	So, you know, it's a look.
	It's a very, very specific kind of look.
	He's not having any of it, and if you listen to the rebuttals from many of these accused men, they remember the night differently, the circumstances weren't quite that way.
	Mr.
	Campbell indicates that he never saw anything and verified that the congressman hired the accuser's daughter.
	But there became a problem.
	All hell broke loose when the congressman fired the daughter.
	And then all of a sudden, we get this sexual harassment, sexual allegation problem.
	Here's the predator that she's talking about.
	He's holding up a picture of the two of them in party dress.
	At the Barrister Ball.
	The 2011 Barrister Ball.
	She said that he took every opportunity during hours to harass her.
	He was an animal.
	But you booed up with him at the Barrister Ball?
	Come on now.
	It doesn't work like that.
	I like that.
	Come on now.
	You know it doesn't work like that.
	Not at all.
	Come on now.
	It doesn't work like that.
	But you want to get angry and you want to get mad when the congressman defends himself.
	This, ladies and gentlemen, I promise you, if this nonsense continues, this is just a harbinger of what's to come.
	And I want to thank all the media who are here, who have been fair, who have been trying to get out the other side of the story.
	Because there is another side of the story.
	So Conyers looks like it could be creepy, but when you hear about, you know, someone's daughter got fired and this could be retribution, then, you know, everything, if you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
	Yeah, but when you hear this story, you can also take it from the perspective that she didn't put out, so she got fired.
	Well, possible.
	It's possible.
	I don't know.
	But you know what?
	No one is talking about this.
	No one is really having, I hate to use the word, no one's having the conversation.
	You know, they can't do it on mainstream media.
	You can't, for one second, talk about the real problems that's going on.
	You know?
	Pamela Anderson, she got slammed, butt slammed.
	Angela Lansbury, oh my god, did you read what she wrote?
	What did Pamela Anderson do besides hang out with Julian?
	She said, you know what you're getting into if you go into a hotel room alone.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I think she's right.
	Angela Lansbury said, there's no excuse whatsoever for men to harass women in an abusive sexual manner.
	And I am devastated anyone should deem me capable of thinking otherwise.
	Because she wrote something, and the women's feminists, I would guess, just got all over her.
	Speaking of radio, let me see, where's her original statement?
	Ugh!
	Oh yeah, here it is.
	She was speaking to Radio Times.
	She's 92, by the way.
	We have to own up to the fact that women, since time immemorial, have gone out of their way to make themselves attractive, and unfortunately it has backfired on us, and this is where we are today.
	Although it's awful to say we can't make ourselves look as attractive as possible without being knocked down and raped.
	People got in their face about that.
	Um...
	But that's the problem.
	We're never going to get anywhere if you can't talk about the stuff honestly, because there are two sides to every story.
	But the power structure, that's where it's egregious.
	It's abuse of power, egregious abuse of power.
	And that's the real problem.
	But you can't deny the tension between men and women, which has been going on since men and women.
	Well, this is why I brought up I forgot which of Jessica Chastain coming out on one of the shows with that slit dress showing all that leg.
	I thought that was abusive.
	It's not necessary.
	Well, this is the problem with show business.
	Yeah.
	It's not a new problem with show.
	No, no.
	It's surprise, surprise.
	It's not something that's really new.
	Although, cool, Lauer's wife is Dutch.
	I'd forgotten about that.
	Yes, she is.
	She's a tall Dutch woman.
	Yeah, the Dutch press.
	I saw a picture of the two of them together.
	They do not look like a matching couple.
	This is his second or third, I think.
	I think he's his second.
	Yeah.
	But he's probably been like this all his life.
	Well, before he went bald...
	Yeah.
	And became kind of a goofy-looking guy.
	He was a good-looking guy with his hair.
	Yeah.
	Younger.
	Got that Jeff Zucker look.
	He was one of those guys who, you know, that may have abused the situation.
	There are a lot of...
	Some of the best-looking guys I've ever known, really, some of them hate women.
	We had a number of salesmen at PC Magazine who were just...
	Amazingly good-looking guys.
	That was what you want as a salesperson.
	Yeah.
	You want good-looking guys, good-looking women that go out and sell.
	For the ads, yeah.
	And one of these guys who may have been the best-looking of the group, I mean, just a male model, no doubt about it.
	And he hated women.
	Wow.
	I mean, he just hated him.
	Why?
	Is it because he got tired of it?
	I think women threw themselves at him, and he didn't like that.
	You know, I have a brain, or something.
	Wow.
	Of all the things guys never say.
	My eyes are up here.
	My eyes are up here.
	Oh, what a punishment to have to go through life being a handsome dude.
	How horrible.
	Of course, we had my favorite, one of my favorite, and it was a fairly, I still, I haven't seen it for years, but I remember the time we're at an event in Atlanta.
	I don't know if I told this story before.
	But we're in Atlanta, and there's a PC Magazine event, and there's a bunch of, we have hired local models to man the table.
	Ah, booth babes.
	Well, it was the table for you to come in and you get your badge.
	Table trolls.
	Well, I don't know what you call them.
	But anyway, one of them was a couple.
	I think they're all like Atlanta Hawks cheerleaders.
	Wow, okay.
	And so one of them was just gorgeous.
	And Mark is the guy, and he knows the story, who kept eyeballing him.
	And so I'm like the troublemaker trying to say, you should get over there.
	Let's just stop.
	Yes, you are a troublemaker.
	Yes, you are.
	And so I said, you've got to get a date with this girl.
	She's lit her.
	She's just staring at you.
	And, you know, I don't think so.
	I got other things to do.
	Come on!
	And so, you know, I finally goaded him into it.
	And so he got his date, and then...
	I'd like...
	The day after the day, I said, so what happened?
	It sounds like it could have been fun.
	He says, first of all, she lived in a trailer park.
	And the second thing was, she was a communist.
	Oh, no.
	And she spent the whole date berating me for being an enemy of the people.
	What?!
	This was the worst date he's ever had.
	She was beautiful.
	Wrong again, Dvorak.
	That was right.
	I got a great story out of it.
	We have a final update here.
	We have another allegation against Senator Al.
	A new woman is coming forward this morning to say that Senator Al Franken groped her years ago.
	Her name is Stephanie Kemplin.
	She is a 41-year-old Army veteran.
	She says that when she was deployed in Kuwait in December of 2003, she met Senator Franken while he was touring with the USO to visit American troops abroad.
	Now, this is what Stephanie told CNN about.
	About the interaction that she had with him during a photo op.
	She said, when he put his arm around me, he groped my right breast.
	He kept his hand all the way over on my breast.
	And I remember thinking, is he going to move his hand?
	Was it an accident?
	Was he going to move his hand?
	Now, she says that the touching lasted at least five seconds and that at some point she shifted her body so that his hand was no longer directly on her breast.
	As you can see in that photo, you can see Senator Franken's hand is on her side.
	Now, she says that she felt ashamed, she felt embarrassed and she was in shock in the moment and that she did not We didn't say anything directly to Senator Franken at the time.
	Now, I will note that we reached out to Franken's office last night and this is the spokesperson's statement provided to CNN. The spokesperson says, as Senator Franken made clear this week, he takes thousands of photos and has met tens of thousands of people and he has never intentionally engaged in this kind of conduct.
	He remains fully committed to cooperating with the ethics investigation.
	Now, Allison and Chris, just to put all of this into context, Stephanie is the fifth woman now in a period of around two weeks to accuse Senator Franken of inappropriate touching.
	And she is also the second woman to say that this kind of misconduct took place while he was on tour with the USO. Yeah, it's a pattern.
	Yeah, they always come out of the woodwork at the...
	And I am semi-authorized to tell you that I intend to do some boots-on-the-ground investigative work as the No Agenda show could possibly have a live broadcast or two from Kandahar.
	Oh, Kandahar.
	Yes.
	Or maybe the other base, whatever it is.
	I may be going.
	Yeah, you said that.
	Well, I don't think I've mentioned it on the show.
	No, you haven't, because it's not a done deal.
	Yeah, so we're working on that.
	But the logistics are kind of there.
	We just have to figure out when.
	And I think it'd be kind of cool.
	Do the show live from Afghanistan, my end.
	We'll get some dudes and some grunts.
	Talk about what's happening.
	I'm thinking lag.
	No, no, no, no.
	They've got, I think they have 20 megabits, which is backhauled straight into, I mean, it's, it shouldn't be too bad.
	We'll find out.
	Definitely will find out.
	Yeah.
	Take a camera.
	Yes.
	I think that might be a good idea.
	It might be the trip of a lifetime.
	You want to come?
	Probably not.
	Oh.
	I mean, I might.
	I think about it when the, when the, when the, Logistics are all worked out.
	Okay.
	It seems like it's pretty straightforward.
	Yeah.
	I'll let you know.
	So anyway, I think maybe the boot's on the ground reporting.
	You'd be interested as well.
	We'll interview some people.
	So tell me about Franken.
	Yeah, it does sound good.
	And now it's time for your sexual harassment update.
	I need a closer, General.
	This was your sexual harassment update.
	Yeah, close the door.
	I do have an interesting clip.
	the lawyer clip that I teased at the beginning of the show.
	Okay.
	Have you heard about the brainwashing killer?
	The brainwashed killer?
	No, no.
	Brainwashed by his own shrink to kill her ex.
	No.
	Okay.
	Where's this report from?
	This is, I think, at CBS. We have new developments in a bizarre attempted murder case that we first told you about last year.
	The guy doing the reporting is taking order from Charlie Rose.
	He is a very skinny, young, light-skinned, bald, black kid who sounds gay.
	What's his name?
	They found the right guy.
	I don't know his name.
	Alright, a new star.
	We'll be on the lookout for him.
	We have new developments in a bizarre attempted murder case that we first told you about last year.
	A young man, Jake Nolan, claims he was brainwashed by his psychiatrist so he could kill on her behalf.
	He is serving time in prison.
	Now, five years after the attack, the woman he claims was the mastermind, Dr.
	Pamela Bookbinder, is under arrest.
	48 Hours Correspondent Peter Van Zandt has a preview of it.
	Jake Nolan readily admits he walked into a New York City high-rise on November 12, 2012, with murder on his mind.
	I planned on killing Michael Weiss.
	Dr.
	Michael Weiss is a psychiatrist.
	Inside Jake's duffel bag, a knife and a large sledgehammer.
	He sees the sledgehammer and charges at me, and I reach for the knife.
	Jake's attorney, Roger Stavis.
	This is not a whodunit.
	He did what he was accused of doing.
	But the big question was, why?
	I saw Jake Nolan brainwashed by Dr.
	Pamela Buckbinder.
	Dr.
	Bookbinder is another psychiatrist and Jake's cousin.
	She and Dr.
	Weiss were battling over custody of their son.
	They hated each other, and in turn she made me hate him.
	Jake claims Dr.
	Bookbinder manipulated him to kill by filling his head with horror stories about her ex.
	And he says he was vulnerable because he suffers from bipolar and other disorders.
	And she morphed me into whatever she wanted me to be.
	This surveillance footage shows Dr.
	Bookbinder with Jake paying for that sledgehammer the night before the attack.
	Wow.
	Now, sledgehammer?
	It's a bit crude.
	Yeah, I would say.
	You come in there, you bust in there, then you crack the guy's head with a sledgehammer, I guess, or kneecap him and then smash him with it.
	I don't know.
	It sounds pretty gruesome.
	But meanwhile, she has a lawyer.
	She's in the slammer.
	She has a lawyer, and this is the bookbinder's lawyer WTF clip.
	And this lawyer comes up with, I think, is really a poor analogy.
	The law finally caught up with this Ivy League psychiatrist.
	Pamela, I'm not guilty.
	Eric Franz, one of Dr.
	Bookbinder's lawyers, says Jake acted alone.
	Pamela Bookbinder is an educated psychiatrist, not Wile E. Coyote.
	Dr.
	Pamela Bookbinder remains in Rikers Island Jail.
	Wile E. Coyote?
	I'm not quite sure I understand the analogy.
	I don't get it.
	There is no analogy.
	It's a stupid thing to say.
	Wile E. Coyote is not Hitler.
	While we're doing that, I have two whipsaws, CBS whipsaws someone sent me.
	Yeah, I think they're pretty good, actually.
	Whipsaw, you want to explain the concept quickly?
	Yeah, the concept is you're doing a story.
	And by the way, good reporters, Jeff Pegues, by the way, I have never caught him doing this.
	And good reporters don't do it.
	And what it is is Is where you make an assertion and then you back it up with a clip.
	But, upon careful examination, the clip has absolutely nothing to do with the assertion.
	Here's clip one.
	But CBS News confirms there's a plan to put CIA Director Mike Pompeo at the State Department, replacing him with either retired Vice Admiral Robert Harward or Arkansas Senator and Trump loyalist Tom Cotton.
	I'm proud to be representing the people of Arkansas.
	Would you like to be CIA Director?
	I'm very proud to be representing the people of Arkansas.
	Cotton denied that he was looking for a new job.
	It wasn't really a complete whipsaw.
	It wasn't a perfect one.
	By the way, we haven't discussed this before.
	Tom Cotton is the worst guy.
	I mean, he's a slick operator and everything, but we talked about him on the show before.
	He's kind of a sketchy character.
	Yeah.
	Next.
	The second one is better.
	And the handling of tensions with North Korea boiled over just a few weeks ago.
	We disagree on a couple of things.
	Sometimes I'd like them to be a little bit tougher.
	That came after reports that Tillerson has become frustrated with the president and had even referred to him as a moron.
	I have never considered leaving this post.
	Those are two in a row that just got nothing to do with what they're asserting.
	How is it boiling over?
	I don't know.
	I just thought it was really funny.
	You've got to play that one again because it was good.
	You have two good assertions followed by a clip that's got nothing to do with anything.
	And the other one was just a non-sequitur.
	By the way, these are technically non-sequiturs.
	And the handling of tensions with North Korea boiled up.
	I also like just the gratuitous missile launch to start off any North Korea report.
	And the handling of tensions with North Korea boiled over just a few weeks ago.
	We disagree in a couple of things.
	Sometimes I'd like them to be a little bit tougher.
	That came after reports that Tillerson has become frustrated with the president and had even referred to him as a moron.
	I have never considered leaving this post.
	Are you sure that these weren't just clipped together by the guy who sent them to you?
	No.
	Well, I'm not 100% sure.
	It doesn't surprise me.
	It doesn't surprise you either, does it?
	No, I've heard worse.
	But they're non-sequiturs.
	They're stupid.
	And a good reporter wouldn't do them.
	I mean, they just, they're lazy.
	They just, you're going to talk, you're talking about Tillerson, just drop, and you make an assertion, then drop some random clip that's got nothing to do with anything.
	It was just Tillerson saying something.
	This is not good news.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on no agenda.
	Sorry, I didn't mean to step on you there.
	No, that's okay.
	We do have a few people to thank, so we'll get on with that.
	Let's start with Sir Milkman.
	I think it's not Milkman, but it's Milkman.
	$150.
	Let's see, anything to say there?
	A little note.
	Andrew Holcomb, $111.11.
	Brandon Toy, also $111.
	There you go.
	Let me just read his note.
	That's who was in Austin yesterday.
	He's in Pontiac, Michigan.
	Yeah, I'm an honorary member of the Michigan Local One.
	Thank you for all the mentions that you give the group on the show.
	We have some great producers.
	Hold on.
	You're not an honorary member.
	You're a member.
	Okay.
	You're a member.
	Thank you for all the mentions that you give the group on the show.
	We have some great producers and nobility in the area.
	I will actually be in Austin for a wedding on the weekend.
	Okay, this is his setup.
	I left my content.
	No, I'm not a stalker.
	That's right.
	He was not a stalker.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Brandon.
	It was nice meeting you.
	And I should have tweeted a picture because we did a selfie with the scroll.
	Yeah.
	No, John Robinet.
	John Robinet, $100.
	Sammy McKinnon in Espoo, Finland, $100.
	I don't know if he's on the list, but birthday shout-out.
	See if there's a birthday shout-out there?
	To Suomi, Finland, which turns 100 years on December 6th.
	No, that's not on the list.
	I'm going to put it on now.
	It's a town, I think.
	Okay.
	I'm guessing.
	I could be wrong.
	Suomi Finland.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I think I'm keeping the good work.
	Lon Baker, $100.
	Alex Button, $100.
	Gerald Preston, 8008.
	That's boob.
	Laurent Bureau.
	I love this guy's name.
	In Besançon, France.
	Ah!
	80.
	Le Ronde Bureau.
	In Besançon.
	Where is Besançon?
	You know, I think I've actually even been there, but I can't remember where it is.
	Well, send us boots on the ground.
	Report.
	Send us some wine.
	Surgat Nate is in Bastopol, California.
	I brought some wine in from the UK. The UK, yeah.
	From Berry Brothers.
	Great, great wine vendor.
	Sergot Nate in Sebastopol, 69-69.
	Jeffrey Young in Upton, Massachusetts, 69-33.
	Peter Tangany in Plymouth, Massachusetts, 66-11.
	Nigel You win.
	I think you have to read this.
	Okay.
	Hi, Adam and John.
	The donation brings me to my knighthood.
	I've donated.
	Listen, it says show one.
	Sorry to hear that.
	First time donation I was with the Deuce Club.
	I could hear episode 200.5.
	I thought this was a drunk donation.
	Where'd you say that?
	Oh, I'm Chris Wilson.
	Where are you?
	Nigel Ewan.
	You said I gotta read it.
	No, I said Chris Wilson you gotta read.
	Oh, sorry about that.
	Well, I was already talking about Nigel Wilson, Chris Wilson, 5861 from Australia.
	Before partying with...
	Okay, cue Drunken Donor jingle.
	I don't know if we have one.
	Yeah, we do.
	What will we do with a drunken donor?
	Lie in the morning.
	Okay.
	Message to all.
	Beware partying with recreational alcoholics.
	Also, anyone in Sydney up for a producer's meetup, hit me up at douchebag at natriggerwarnings.com.
	That's natriggerwarnings.com.
	ITM, gentlemen.
	Please accept this humble, I'm still drunk, Aussie boob donation of $80.008.
	Apparently, Jesus drove the money changes from the temple straight into the foreign exchange business.
	Thanks, Obama!
	I reckon I'd be close to a full-price Trump casino token knighthood, but I'm just going to be down for a while instead.
	Close my eyes.
	Love you all.
	No homo.
	Even though same-sex marriage is legal here now, once the Queen's appendage, our Governor General signs it into law.
	Yes, we're still subjects and slaves of Her Majesty.
	Lizzie 2.0.
	Bless her reptilian heart.
	You're in Gitmo Penal Colony.
	Chris Wilson.
	Thanks, Chris.
	And I can't get a job in show business?
	Are you kidding me?
	The troll room doesn't think you're acting.
	Ha!
	Yeah, the troll room.
	Okay, we did Nigel Uwin in Columbus, Ohio.
	Yeah.
	And he needs to be knighted and he's on the list.
	James Gutz in Summer, North Carolina, 55-10.
	Howard LaRoe in Worcester, Massachusetts.
	That's 55-10.
	Sir Tom Derry in DeForest, Wisconsin.
	55-10.
	Sir Payne in the Ass in Richmond, Virginia.
	54-32.
	John Tennis.
	I like that 5-4-3-2.
	I don't think we have a lot of those.
	That's kind of a new one.
	They come in.
	Yeah.
	5-1-2-5 from West Line, Oregon.
	This is, I love the name, John Tennis.
	John Tennis, detective.
	Johnny Culver, 50.
	Oh, these are following all $50 donors, name and location.
	Johnny Culver, parts unknown.
	Daniel Smith, Dayton, Ohio.
	Black Knight Sir, Lineman of the Net.
	Anna, Illinois, 50.
	Tyler Schimpf in Bothell, Washington.
	Nicholas Cole, parts unknown.
	Jason Deluzio in Chatsford, Pennsylvania.
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	Yeah, I noticed that this morning too as I was typing in the show notes.
	Like, oh man, another opportunity missed.
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	It's the only thing that keeps it rolling.
	I was going to do a couple of advertising-based things just to, you know, the net is crumbling.
	And I think we do have to have a quick conversation.
	But Wired Magazine is now saying they're going to put up a paywall.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Goodbye.
	Na-na-na-na.
	Hey-hey.
	So they'll be gone.
	I get irked when I run into one of these things.
	I just get mad.
	Somebody said, oh, I said, read this article and I can't get to it.
	I always tell people, if you're going to send me an article to read and it's a clip and it's like some paywall, just cut and paste it.
	I can read it that way.
	Otherwise, I'm not going to bother.
	We also saw a video service shutter.
	And this was a service that Vidme.
	Yeah, Vidme.
	Yeah, it was a video sharing platform they've closed.
	Yeah.
	And they...
	Why do you think that is?
	Well, they actually...
	They talk about that in their goodbye note.
	What do they say?
	Well, although we still believe...
	It's sad to see these things go.
	Yeah.
	Although we still believe that the world would greatly benefit from a creator-first video platform.
	You hear that?
	Creator-first.
	Yeah.
	And I love this creator.
	What are you?
	I'm a creator.
	A creator.
	I create blogs.
	When you go to these big conferences from Adobe, they always call them the creatives.
	Ah, yes, the creatives.
	I'm a creator in the creatives industry.
	Yeah.
	We weren't...
	Okay, although we still believe the world would greatly benefit from a creator-first video platform, we weren't able to find a path to financial sustainability.
	You don't say.
	Here are major obstacles we encountered in our attempts.
	Now, let's pay attention.
	Number one.
	Monetizing user-generated content is increasingly challenging.
	I would think.
	Yeah, and this is what I wanted to focus on so people understand why YouTube is doing what it's doing and Google is doing what it's doing and what your future is as a creator.
	Because you're pretty much fucked.
	Advertisers want to target specific audiences, which means a new platform that doesn't store troves of personal user data is at a severe disadvantage relative to Facebook and Google, which combined controls 60% of online ad spending in the U.S. Two, most advertisers want their ads to complement, quote, brand-safe content.
	Yeah, that's a word I haven't heard for a while.
	At least a week.
	Yeah.
	This is a subjective designation, which is difficult to define and enforce.
	Content, therefore, must be thoroughly reviewed and moderated.
	An expensive prospect.
	As YouTube recently learned, with the adpocalypse, even a single poorly moderated video can result in a PR disaster and undermine advertiser trusts.
	Few advertisers are willing to negotiate direct deals with platforms that don't have enormous scale, meaning ad revenue rates are lower for newer platforms.
	In turn, there's less overall revenue to be shared with creators, which means creators are less likely to support newer platforms for a sustained period of time.
	Oh no, it's a catch-22!
	Four.
	Yes.
	Can you send me this document?
	Because it sounds like a column to me.
	It is a column, John.
	I will send this to you.
	Thanks.
	Although we introduced direct fan patronage as an additional business model, let me just say, let me stop you right there.
	Whenever you use the term direct fan patronage and call that a business model, you deserve to go out of business.
	How stupid can you be?
	The profit margin was insufficient to cover the high cost of storing and delivering video.
	Yes.
	Video is expensive to store and deliver.
	Storing and delivering video is becoming less expensive but remains extremely costly.
	Videos are often massive files, making them globally available at any time as expensive.
	YouTube sold to Google just 18 months after launching, partly because of YouTube's high burn rate and to this day is still likely operating at a loss.
	I agree.
	When we launched in 2014, we projected that infrastructure costs would decline due to decreased competition in the CDN and data storage industries.
	While marginal prices have fallen dramatically over the past few years, our aggregate costs still outpace our ability to generate meaningful revenue.
	We'll know this before going in.
	Yeah, but who cares?
	They had some hook.
	I'm sure they had some great deck they showed on Tuesday to the VC. Yeah.
	And they got a bunch of money, and they went for it, and they couldn't ramp.
	And I think it shows that, you know, if you're banking your future on a career as a creator, you might want to start looking at some other vocation.
	Because unless you are a superstar in bed with the video platform, then let's face it, there's only YouTube, really.
	You're not going to make money, and you're probably going to get demonetized and eventually kicked off.
	So, a word to the wise.
	A word to the wise.
	Word to the wise.
	Another phrase from the Shays that has not been used.
	Yeah.
	A good reason.
	Well, that's good.
	So go on.
	You had something to say.
	You got something.
	You got more to add to this.
	Well, I do want to add something else.
	I want to add the...
	Because this is what's going to be conflated with this, is net neutrality.
	And we touched on it briefly at the end of the last show.
	I know we've been through this several times.
	I think we, again, need to remind people...
	Why this is a bullcrap argument and that it's Google and Apple and Facebag and not Netflix anymore because they fixed their problem.
	They don't even go over the net anymore.
	They're in all the data barns and all the storage centers right in the network.
	Yeah, they're in the network.
	But the amount of people who just think that, and of course it helps with this being Trump's guy, Ajit, because everything he does is wrong.
	But believe me, let's give your example again of telemedicine and just how that fits in with net neutrality.
	This is very important because people are being hoodwinked.
	It's only one of many examples.
	I did a column in 2014, I think is being passed around once again on the Twitter page.
	And I think this was the best column.
	I'd done this column maybe six times different variations of the net neutrality column.
	But I think the 2014 version was the best.
	And one of my arguments is that all bits are equal.
	Well, how does that make any sense when you have to deal with the quality of service?
	Should a video bit be equal to a text bit?
	And more importantly, what are you going to do when you have this telemetry operations?
	So you've got a doctor in Sydney, Australia, and he's got his rig, and he's on the internet, and he's going to operate on somebody in the middle of nowhere outside of Perth.
	And he needs the good bits, and he needs some, you know...
	Priority.
	Priority scheduling of his traffic.
	You know better than I do.
	Why don't you tell this story?
	Anyway, so...
	You wrote the column.
	Exactly.
	I write this stuff, but I can't remember.
	Okay, so here's the problem.
	First of all, you're being hoodwinked, and my favorite has got to be...
	I'm sure you've seen this one.
	It looks like an ad for an ISP, and it's always from Portugal or someplace.
	You clearly can't verify it.
	And it's showing you, hey, do you want 30 hours of face bag this month?
	That's $14.95.
	Hey, you want to be good on Twitter?
	That's $9.95 extra.
	And people...
	First of all, they look at this, oh man, this is what's coming, this is what's going to happen, okay?
	How's that work?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	And second, is your life so pathetic that you're upset about losing access to FaceBag?
	No, that's really bad.
	I mean, that's the level that we're at, and it's very easy.
	But that is the level they're selling, because that's exactly where the emotional nutballs are, and that's where you go after them.
	Anyway, everybody's all in on this.
	I mean, we can bitch and moan about it.
	I think there's like five people that...
	Well, let me just give you the main players and their reasons.
	So, the FaceBag, Google, Apple, they want...
	They want regulation.
	They really do.
	They're saying they don't, but they want regulation in their favor.
	What's being done here is a different kind of...
	It's not about you getting on your Facebook or your Twitter or anything like that.
	It's not about stuff not coming through.
	It's about the language of the regulations that we're talking about, where certain types of content will be deemed illegal and thus can be filtered, and certain types of network traffic can be deemed illegal, and they haven't defined those.
	But you can pretty much bet it's going to be peer-to-peer.
	It could be blockchain traffic might become illegal.
	That would be an easy one.
	So particularly proponents of Bitcoin, you should be outraged by the entire concept of the government having any kind of legislative power over the Internet.
	That's what you don't want.
	All this other stuff is pathetic.
	It's pathetic.
	The point I make over and over and over again is that when the internet got to start getting going in today's, you know, with especially when the emergence of the web browser in 93 or so, everybody was, oh, the government hands off, hands off, hands off the internet.
	Don't touch the internet.
	And now they're begging people to touch the internet.
	Does anybody see a conflict of interest here?
	You know, first you don't want that government involved, now you want the government involved?
	I mean, the original thinkers were correct.
	You don't want the government involved, but they're going to be involved and you're not going to be able to do anything about it once they are involved.
	And they are going to start...
	I think BitTorrent's a good example.
	You can spot those packets nowadays.
	All peer-to-peer traffic will be deemed illegal.
	All of it.
	But blockchain in particular.
	Look, they're already cracking down.
	The IRS is getting into the game.
	There's a lot happening in the cryptocurrency scene.
	I just think it's interesting that they've sold the tech community and most of the public a bill of goods.
	And they're all in on it.
	Yeah, they're all in on it.
	If you listen to anybody talk about any of this, they're all in on it.
	And by the way...
	I didn't think about the blockchain thing.
	I've got to put that in the next comment.
	Yeah, oh, that's an update.
	It's the 2017 version.
	Yeah, blockchain.
	Well, remember, it's illegal network traffic.
	That is the main thing.
	That's not even about the content.
	But I would say network traffic is also First Amendment.
	You can argue it.
	You could.
	Well, I'm talking about that.
	So I'm in London, and everything is BT, British Telecom.
	Everything.
	So you're in an Airbnb, and you go online, and they give us a password to use their system.
	Everybody apparently has been plugged in.
	Everyone's got BT routers.
	Because you get a list when you do your list of local nearby Wi-Fis.
	And it's all right down to 100 of them.
	BT603.5.
	It's kind of like AT&T in an apartment building.
	Yeah, it's all BT, BT, BT, BT. You cannot go to thenoagendashow.com.
	You cannot go to dvorak.org.
	What?
	Yes.
	How about curry.com?
	No, dead.
	You are not allowed to go.
	You can.
	You just get limited access, as JC pointed out, to very large corporate sites.
	Huh.
	You can go to Google.
	You can do it here.
	And there's no way to bypass it?
	Yes, there is.
	If you're a customer of BT and you sign in, you can go on everything.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	Well, that sucks.
	Yeah.
	We got on a list.
	What list did we get on?
	We're not big enough.
	We're not big enough for payoffs.
	I would like to have some of our British knights and barons and people look into this and see why we can't be accessed at the first level.
	Yeah.
	I find that to be very, very distressing.
	That is distressing.
	Douchebags.
	So, yeah.
	And I don't think net neutrality is going to have anything to do with any of this.
	The net neutrality thing is a scam.
	Now, I did make a list of some things I also wanted to talk about because you kind of have some knowledge of this.
	Okay.
	Which is the washing machines and dryers in Europe in general.
	You mean the combo washer-dryer.
	Well, there's the combo one.
	We only had a washer, but then they had some drying mechanism.
	But the combo washer-dryer is classic.
	But the washing machine is just in itself.
	They seem to all be made by Bosch or some other German electronic company.
	They're all extremely small.
	Yeah.
	When Tina and I were in Amsterdam on our last trip, they had one of these as well.
	And our experience was, you can't fit anything in it, and it just stays damp.
	And it runs for like five hours.
	Well, the washing cycle's got a timer on it to show you what it is.
	The washing cycle is two hours and 40 minutes.
	Okay.
	And you put your stuff in there and it spins around and swashes back and forth because it's a front loader.
	So you can't open it once you start.
	It spins around and stops.
	Five minutes go by.
	It spins around, spins around, stops.
	And this does this for two and a half hours.
	You're right.
	It's some kind of power saver mode, it feels like, where it goes, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom.
	Instead of a normal machine, which is off to the races and does its thing.
	Yes, a good American Maytag or any of it, Whirlpool, any of them.
	Kenmore!
	Yes, you can put in 30 pounds of clothes and fill it up and turn it on and 15 minutes later the clothes are washed.
	I think this is another EU thing, man.
	This is energy saving.
	But this predates the EU. I first noticed this in the 70s.
	Wow.
	These stupid washing machines are idiotic.
	And then there's the combo one that you mentioned.
	We didn't have this time, but I've used them.
	You're right.
	It takes about five hours.
	And everything's damp.
	And it's still damp.
	It doesn't do any drying.
	I don't understand it.
	I don't get it either.
	It's just beyond me.
	So what was your question?
	Why?
	Is this a common thing and nobody says anything about it?
	That is a great question.
	I love that question.
	That is my favorite question ever asked of me on this podcast.
	Just some I picked up.
	That's a good one.
	That's a good one.
	It's a keeper.
	Hey, you know, you had a nice little expo.
	And a theory behind Meghan Markle, the new princess-to-be.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The spy theory.
	Yeah, the spy theory.
	Now, she's touted as an actress, but I looked at her IMDb, and she's got a lot of third person on the right.
	Yeah, she's definitely got a lot of sitting at the table in the back.
	She's got a lot of Screen Extras Guild stuff.
	Yeah, Screen Extras Guild.
	I don't think there's a guild called the Screen Extras Guild, but I like it.
	You want to look it up?
	Really?
	Is that true?
	Yeah, we had a person at Mevio that, I never thought about it, but we had a person at Mevio that was a member of the Screen Extras Guild.
	Holy crap, let me see.
	Yeah.
	Uh...
	Hold on.
	Let me find it.
	Uh...
	Screen Extras Guild.
	I had no idea that existed.
	Oh my god.
	Well, it's a part of...
	Oh yeah.
	The Extra Union Screen Extras Guild.
	Seg.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	Nah.
	There you go.
	How about that?
	No longer.
	Yeah, anyway, so...
	I can't get in that either.
	You can't get on that website?
	Oh, you can't get into the union?
	I'm so sorry, man.
	So, I would say, you hit on something really big here, and I have a piece of her at the United Nations Women's Conference.
	And I think that, you know, your assertion is this is a marriage of CIA, possibly MI6. Yeah, and he looks MI6 to me.
	The Prince?
	He just has a look of a guy.
	He's the perfect guy.
	You need a guy like that.
	Yeah, you need a guy that likes to horse around.
	He's always in Africa.
	He's floating around.
	He's a horse around.
	He likes to party.
	Party with booze.
	He likes that.
	He's not into drugs, into booze.
	Perfect speed.
	A lot of these guys, their main job is to recruit.
	Yeah, well, her job...
	And she can recruit, and I think he can recruit very well, both of them.
	Well, here's a little background.
	We're going to have to start following her because I would like you to meet the new Angelina Jolie.
	See, I had been in school watching a TV show in elementary school, and this commercial came on with the tagline for this dishwashing liquid, and the tagline said, Women all over America are fighting greasy pots and pans.
	Two boys from my class said, yeah, that's where women belong.
	In the kitchen.
	I remember feeling shocked.
	I remember she's 11.
	And angry.
	Yes, this is fantastic.
	These stories about little girls that are shocked about stuff.
	Or said certain things.
	We see this all the time.
	These are all bullcrap stories.
	Well, you're gonna love this one.
	This is a tale to tell.
	...shocked and angry and also just feeling so hurt.
	It just wasn't right and something needed to be done.
	So, I went home and I told my dad what had happened.
	And he encouraged me to write letters.
	So I did.
	To the most powerful people I could think of.
	Now, my 11-year-old self worked out that if I really wanted someone to hear me, well, then I should write a letter to the First Lady.
	So off I went, scribbling away to our First Lady at the time, Hillary Clinton.
	Woo!
	I also put pen to paper and I wrote a letter to my news source at the time, Linda Ellerby, who hosted a kids' news program.
	I love Linda Ellerby.
	And then to powerhouse attorney Gloria Allred.
	Woo!
	Because even at 11, I wanted to cover all my bases.
	Of course.
	Finally, I wrote to the soap manufacturer.
	And a few weeks went by.
	And to my surprise, I received letters of encouragement from Hillary Clinton, from Linda Ellerbee, and from Gloria Allred.
	It was amazing.
	The kids' news show, they sent a camera crew to my home to cover the story.
	And it was roughly a month later.
	When the soap manufacturer, Procter& Gamble, changed the commercial for their ivory clear dishwashing liquid.
	They changed it from women all over America are fighting greasy pots and pans to people all over America.
	It was at that moment that I realized the magnitude of my actions.
	At the age of 11, I had created my small level of impact by standing up for equality.
	Oh, man.
	She's going to be a force to reckon with.
	Diana 2.0.
	What a bullcrap story.
	How does an 11-year-old know or even care about Gloria Allred?
	Are you kidding me?
	Well, maybe she's from a spook family.
	Maybe that's how it worked.
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	I like it.
	I like her.
	She took her international studies and she's got to write everything.
	Yeah.
	And she looks the part.
	Yeah.
	So does he.
	And it'll be great.
	They'll be all over the world floating around.
	Mr.
	and Mrs.
	Smith.
	It's the new hot couple.
	I think they're going to far outstrip...
	What's his face?
	Wills and Kate.
	Will and Kate, they got their job, which is to become the next king and queen or whatever she becomes.
	I'm not sure.
	This other guy, Harry, he's a freelancer.
	He can go out and do whatever he wants.
	The likelihood of him ever becoming king or even being something he has to worry about is nil.
	It's like fifth, I think, in succession.
	Well, I think she's got Angelina's job there at the UN, although she's high representative for refugees, and I guess...
	Well, Angelina kind of blew herself up.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, she did.
	So I think they had to take her off the beat.
	Yeah.
	I wonder who her handler's going to be.
	We'll find out soon enough.
	The handler will be...
	We'll see that whoever the handler's way too often.
	Did I... I think I asked if there was a vaccine for hepatitis A. Yeah.
	Is there a vaccine?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Oh, because I didn't know.
	I thought once you get hepatitis A, you're dead.
	You're over.
	No, no, you're not dead.
	You can get...
	It's curable.
	Oh, it is curable.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Well, there's a couple of things about vaccines.
	The vaccine's a short-lived one.
	It's something that's...
	Hepatitis A is a liver infection that is highly contagious.
	It's caused by a virus that creates inflammation and impairs liver function.
	It can be spread many ways, including ingesting even a small amount of contaminated fecal matter, eating food handled by someone with the virus who didn't wash his or her hands, drinking contaminated water, eating raw shellfish from polluted waters, having sex with someone who has the eating raw shellfish from polluted waters, having sex with someone who
	Symptoms don't appear until after you've had the virus for a few weeks and include low-grade fever, fatigue, nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, clay-colored bowel movements, dark urine, and joint pain.
	Not everyone with the condition develops symptoms.
	There's no specific treatment, and your body will clear the infection in a few weeks.
	If you've been exposed to the virus, the hepatitis A vaccine may protect you from infection within two weeks of contact.
	Hand-washing and avoiding infected people are key to prevention.
	There are five types of hepatitis, A through E.
	Each causes some form of liver problems.
	Unlike B or C, hepatitis A does not cause chronic liver disease and is rarely fatal.
	All these vaccines that don't really work is getting on my nerves.
	Yeah.
	I mean, we've talked about the latest flu.
	I don't think it's a vaccine.
	I think it's some preventative thing.
	Well, then they shouldn't call it a vaccine.
	It's like the vaccine to stop smoking.
	It's not a vaccine.
	No, it's not a vaccine.
	They're using the word too loosely.
	Well, the flu vaccine for this year is hosed.
	How many times have we heard this?
	Oh, yeah, wrong strain or something went wrong.
	It's not effective.
	Well, here you go.
	U.S. health officials say they're bracing for a devastating flu season, and they worry that the flu shot might not help.
	This year, only 10% of flu vaccines were effective in Australia.
	That is according to a study published by the New England Journal of Medicine, and it also found that the shot was most ineffective against influenza A, which is historically the most dangerous.
	Dr.
	Anthony Fauci told WTOP, quote, Yeah, that guy.
	...of the vaccine, as we grow it in eggs, the virus itself mutated a bit, so that there was almost an accidental mismatch purely on the basis of the virus trying to adapt itself to growing in eggs.
	That's what happened in Australia, and it is likely...
	That's what we're going to see here.
	Last year, U.S. flu shots were 34% effective according to the study, and while the outlook looks more grim this year, Dr.
	Fauci says Americans still need to take the time to get vaccinated.
	The CDC estimated flu vaccines saved 40,000 lives between 2005 and 2014.
	It doesn't work, but get your shot anyway, stupid slaves.
	And now my favorite, Sanofi Pasteur, Sanofi.
	They have asked for health authorities to update information provided to physicians and patients about its dengue fever vaccine, Dengue Vaxia.
	And this is what is known as a label update, which means you'll never hear about it.
	This is from their official document.
	Based on up to six years of clinical data, the new analysis evaluated long-term safety and efficacy of dengue vaxia in people who had been infected with dengue prior to vaccination and those who had not.
	The analysis confirmed that dengue vaxia provides persistent protective benefit against dengue fever in those who had prior infection.
	For those not previously infected by the dengue virus, however, the analysis found that in the longer term, more cases of severe disease could occur following vaccination upon a subsequent dengue infection.
	What?
	Well, basically, on the base theory of vaccinations, that doesn't make any sense at all.
	But it's also, I mean, it's not a great message.
	Hey, if you want this dengue fever vaccine, and you've never had dengue fever, you might get really horrible dengue fever.
	Hmm.
	Yeah, sounds like a thing to avoid.
	Luckily, it's not required anywhere.
	No, but I'm surprised.
	I mean, I think this is a big, I think this is big news.
	Yeah, well, let me see.
	Let me turn on the TV and see if they're talking about it.
	No, I don't think so.
	No, they're not talking about it.
	Pick this up today.
	Kathy Griffin sold her Hollywood Hills home.
	She's a nice place, too.
	Very nice place.
	Very famous.
	It's famous there up on the hills.
	$4.49 million.
	Do you think she needed the money?
	I don't think so.
	I don't know.
	I think it's nonsense that she's making good money touring internationally.
	She sure seems to be bitching about it.
	Kathy Griffin bitching, huh?
	Okay, I got one for you.
	This is the Hawaiian air raid alert.
	Listen to this shorty.
	Okay.
	Oh, why is it not playing?
	Across Hawaii today, a blast from the past.
	Warning sirens in paradise.
	They blared in Hawaiian cities and villages for the first time since the end of the Cold War.
	It was just a test in response to the threat of an attack from North Korea.
	Really?
	No.
	Did they really do that just a test because of North Korea?
	Yeah.
	That's fear-mongering.
	That's terrorism right there.
	I agree.
	That's not okay.
	Ah, douchebags.
	Douchebag!
	Well, Hawaii is doing what we predicted would happen.
	The Honolulu Police Department has issued an order for medical marijuana users to surrender their firearms.
	And I have a copy of a letter that looks pretty official.
	November 13th, Dear Mr.
	Redacted.
	This letter is to inform you that under the provisions of the Hawaii Revised Statutes, Section 134-7A, you are disqualified from firearms ownership, possession of controlling firearms.
	Your medical marijuana use disqualifies you from ownership of firearms and ammunition.
	HRS 134-7.3, seizure firearms upon disqualification.
	If you currently own or have any firearms, you have 30 days upon receipt of this letter to voluntarily surrender your firearms, permit, and ammunition to the Honolulu Police Department or otherwise transfer ownership.
	A medical doctor's clearance letter is required for any future firearms applications or return of firearms from HPD evidence.
	There you go.
	Yeah, that's a test case.
	It'll be everywhere.
	Luckily, the recreational laws will transcend the problem.
	What do you mean?
	Well, because you're not going to be registered.
	Ah, if it's recreational.
	Ah, yeah, good point, good point.
	But when you have to register and get a permission, it's not going to work.
	Can they do that, though?
	Is that something that...
	Yeah, the states can do whatever they want, pretty much.
	Hmm.
	Alright, I got my last clip.
	I have a couple clips here, but I'm going to play this one the last.
	We're on time.
	I know.
	Isn't it beautiful?
	Okay, this is the weird...
	Now, there's a lot of...
	This was a freelance story that ran on...
	I think it ran on local TV. I don't know what the point of it was.
	It's got nothing to do with the Bay Area that I know of.
	And it's a story about pot in Minnesota.
	Health officials in Minnesota have added autism spectrum disorders to the list of conditions that qualify for medical cannabis.
	Fox reporter Iris Perez spoke with two mothers who say their son's lives change for the better thanks to medical marijuana.
	You see that all the time.
	Oh yeah, we do.
	Heather Tidd and her 13-year-old son TJ flipped through a chapter of life that for eight years was difficult to grasp.
	Pre-cannabis, TJ had a really difficult time reading.
	She adopted TJ when he was four.
	At 10, he was diagnosed with Tourette's.
	School was...
	Horrible.
	I had to quit my job.
	I had to pick him up several times a week.
	By the time TJ was 11, Heather had tried it all until 2015 when she was certified to treat TJ with medical cannabis.
	Previously, we had the police at our house every day.
	We had holes in the walls.
	He was trying to hurt himself and others.
	That all ended immediately.
	We have not had the police here since.
	That life change is one Victoria Grantsowich also attests to.
	We tried everything else, Iris, and nothing else stopped the self-injurious behavior and the aggression that we were seeing every day for a year.
	Her 14-year-old son Julian suffers autism and a seizure disorder.
	And that is how we got him qualified for medical cannabis.
	This was Julian in January, before he started taking medical cannabis.
	He was giving himself black eyes.
	We couldn't stop it.
	It was his way of crying out in pain.
	But these are snapshots of Julian now.
	This is the first time in my child's life I'm truly seeing him pain-free.
	And I'm seeing my child thrive.
	Both Victoria and Heather represent only two moms.
	Relieved to learn autism is now a condition Minnesota considers eligible for the alternative treatment.
	Within a year, he went up three grades in his reading abilities.
	Treatment that leads them away from stories of pain and has them now flipping onto pages of joy.
	People with autism will have an opportunity to become successful because of this choice.
	Well, I can't argue any of that.
	Of course not.
	But why are they running this story?
	Where did it run?
	KTVU, local.
	A local drug story.
	It's like Oakland.
	And this is a story out of Minnesota.
	Iris Perez is the reporter and she's a local reporter at Fox 9 in Minnesota somewhere.
	And she put this package together obviously as a With an eye to be a syndicator or something.
	I don't know why.
	It's just baffling to me why the story's got any, you know, it's a local story from Minnesota.
	I don't know.
	Well, you know, the Tourette's thing, it's true.
	It certainly helps.
	It really does.
	It just makes it very difficult to do television appearances when you're stoned, but otherwise it helps with the Tourette's.
	There's a lot of people stoned on TV from the looks of it.
	No clip but final story.
	Maybe you can help out.
	I think the Curry DeVore Consulting Group is available for this type of service.
	President Trump's staff complain of cockroach, mice, and ant infestations at the White House.
	Yeah, ants.
	Ants.
	Yeah, I wondered about this story because it came out and got a lot of play.
	I wouldn't be surprised if it was true, but it seemed like just kind of a slam because Trump called the place a dump.
	Supposedly.
	I don't believe that either.
	So I don't know if it's a real story or not, but it could be.
	I mean, it's a big place, an old, big old place.
	It was built, you know, like a long time ago and it could be filled, infested with all kinds of stuff.
	Well, for sure, we'll be playing our favorite ant song so that the staffers at the White House can learn what to do and what not to do.
	I don't think they have Argentinian ants in Washington, D.C. I think they got those big, big boys.
	But you can still, you still got to kill the right one.
	I'm not sure how it works with those other ants.
	Maybe you could do a little study so we can pitch our services.
	Somebody should send me out there on a lark.
	All right, everybody.
	We're on a plane.
	Eyes open.
	It is a show day.
	You never know what can happen.
	Because crazy stuff does happen from time to time.
	Indeed.
	Indeed.
	And I am coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas.
	It is the capital of the drone star state.
	I'm in the 5x9 Cludio in the common law condo.
	It is FEMA Region 6 on the governmental maps if you're looking for it.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley.
	And by the way, there's a big giant moon floating around.
	If you get to see it, I think tonight's going to be your last shot at it.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We return on Thursday.
	Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. Until then, as always...
	Adios!
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	her do not believe her do not when they tell you tonight that the single market is good We need to be part of this plan to access the single market.
	Every country in the world accesses the single market.
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	Do not believe them.
	They do call me Auntie Maxine.
	I embrace that.
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	I'm gonna be there, auntie.
	I am sitting here.
	I'm in Detroit.
	I've been in Cleveland.
	I'm on my way to Atlanta.
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	I've been in Chicago.
	And I tell you this.
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	I was in the legislature.
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	I've been to hell.
	I... I... I... I... The fact of the matter is, I don't read everything.
	Et cetera, et cetera, all of that.
	I think I really do believe.
	I want you to know I've said and I also said I will go and take Trump out tonight.
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	Boom.
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	I got ants.
	I got ants.
	I don't know if he had ants.
	We had ant invasion.
	I was thinking if you desiccated a big pile of ants and then ground them to a powder like a fine grind black pepper, we were having dinner and yeah, I got an ant somehow in the meal and I ate it.
	These things are peppery.
	I got ants.
	These ants, they don't need a lot.
	And then you just see, you find all the ones that are roaming around you.
	Although I backed them off by doing the burning trick.
	You just torch them.
	And you leave them there.
	The only ant, there are occasional moments where there's an ant that you do not torch, and that's an ant that's carrying one of the dead ants back.
	I got ants.
	.
	Ants.
	Ants?
	Ants!
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