This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 986.
This is no agenda.
Back on the stick, ready to deconstruct your world, and broadcasting live from downtown Austin Tejas, captain of the drone star, stay in the Cludio, in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm retweeting everything, I'm John C. Dvorak.
Do we have a lag?
Is that what happened, or did you just fall asleep?
Do we have a lag, I guess.
Oh, boy.
Okay, we'll see if it gets better.
We have new Skype, so the experience should be fabulous.
Uh-uh, no.
We went through about an hour of reconfiguring.
Mic check.
Yeah, mic check.
It always happens when you come back from vacation, you think nothing's changed.
Nothing's changed.
Yeah.
Something changed.
You're using a completely different mic now.
Yeah, I had to go.
I went through three mics to get something that sounds good.
Yeah.
We still have some Skype stuff.
I don't know.
Skype is pissing me off.
They changed that interface again.
It's like, what?
Can't find anything.
Yeah.
Anyway.
It's Microsoft.
Microsoft.
Microsoft's about to build out a new Microsoft city.
Oh.
Really?
And they're going to tear down the Redmond campus, which everyone says, oh, as you know, it's threadbare.
It needs to be torn down.
And so they're going to tear it down and build a Microsoft City.
And they put an example of this, and they sent a press release out.
It looks like crap.
There's no architectural touch whatsoever.
It's just a bunch of buildings that look like warehouses or prisons.
Yeah.
And then they're going to have stuff like a soccer field and a cricket field for all the cricket nuts that work at Microsoft.
Anybody who's an Indian would like it.
I don't hear about a basketball court or a football field or a baseball.
Where's the baseball field?
Everybody plays softball.
Dodgeball, at least.
No, no.
Cricket and soccer.
I didn't know this.
They're doing away with all those buildings that have just a number on it.
I'm in building nine.
It's cool.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're getting rid of all that.
And everyone's, you know, oh, it's threadbare.
I haven't been to the campus for some year or so.
Maybe it is threadbare.
What they're putting up is not interesting.
I'll tell you, power to them.
I'm switching to windows.
Power to them.
Yeah, well.
Yeah.
I may go to the Mac.
Yeah, that'll be the day.
It can happen.
No, I don't think so.
Yeah, you used to use a Mac.
Anyway, screw that.
We're back.
We're live.
It is the 30th of November.
I only slept like four hours last night, so if I have trouble finding stuff, then please excuse me.
I was talking to your wife all night.
Yeah.
Doing some admin stuff.
She's good.
Now I know why you married her.
She's good at what you're describing.
That's what she's good at.
Sounds lewd, but it's not.
She used to go find people who had their books were all a mess.
It was just a screwed up mess and she'd go fix it.
No, she's like Nancy Drew.
She's a fixer.
Yes, she is, but she's like Nancy Drew.
She's like...
I know a lot about you now.
I'm like, what?
She tries to tell me of something.
I'm not interested.
You're like, what, about me?
Was she trying to tell you what I do?
Yeah.
Well, how about some professional courtesy here?
What's up with that?
I've talked to her about it.
My God, Adam's really weird.
What are these charges?
Oh, my God.
And she'd be like, here's the best part.
She's like, yeah, you even have some bogus charges.
I said, really?
Yeah, like $8.
And I'm like, it's got to be porn.
It's like, yeah, bogus charges.
All right, so tell me about the meetup.
You know, I saw luckily that someone had a cardboard cutout head of mine on a stick.
I was very happy to be able to participate, but tell me.
Yeah, we had a ceremony afterwards burning it.
Okay, thanks, buddy.
Out of about 30 people, one of the guys came in from, one of our producers came in from Munich.
Hello, Deutschland!
Here's the Hoff!
And everybody else was, you know, from around the area.
I mean, London, greater London.
And it was fantastic.
And some women who showed up.
Ah!
Were they hot?
They were all, yes, they were incredibly hot.
And then we had, one of the guys is interesting, he's a set designer and art director for the Star Wars franchise.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Over there?
He works out of Pinewood.
Oh, yeah.
When they go to Hollywood to pick up an award or something, everybody hates them.
Because they're at the Harry Potter studios?
Is that why?
I guess.
Whatever it is, it's because they're cheaper, I guess.
Yeah, they're taking away business.
Yeah, non-union and they're taking away business.
Yeah, no wonder they hate them.
Yeah, this is really dangerous to go to Hollywood.
Did you learn anything?
Did you learn any local color?
I mean, what were you guys doing there?
Did you have any travel issues?
Was it just a ho-hum?
We went off to London and it was all great, here's a t-shirt?
No, I got a whole list of things.
I got talking points.
We did a lot of...
This was actually an interesting trip for me because I hadn't been to London for about four or five years.
And every other time I went, it was so expensive, I'd go to Amsterdam.
Right.
By comparison, it's dirt cheap.
Entertainment is cheap there.
And so here's a couple.
I'm going to go through my list.
I think this is very interesting.
Okay.
Most of the pubs in London are owned by two companies.
I should have known this.
You should have.
Yeah.
And it's ridiculous.
They have no Brits.
I was with...
Okay, we had...
Here's how many people.
We had a total of eight people, including a couple of friends of Mimi's and mine who live out in Cornwall.
One of them is a incredibly famous harmonica player.
Oh, Toots Thilemans?
And he is with the Ruts.
You ever heard of him?
No, I don't think so.
That's funny.
He said he'd know...
And also the four guys or something.
This is a bunch of British fans.
So he says that he's annoyed by London having no British people working in the pubs.
They're all from Eastern Europe.
And it was pretty obvious.
And everybody is on list number two.
Everybody smokes.
In the pub?
I thought that wasn't allowed.
Are they allowed to smoke?
They're outside the pub, but everybody's smoking all the time.
Yeah, that's Britain for you.
Yeah, well, I thought they'd be off it by now, you'd think.
Well, you'd think that with that great national health system that, you know, they'd be forbidden.
Hey, you want NHS? No smoking for you.
Duty-free fiasco.
It says I got a list.
I have to go through it so I don't skip anything.
We flew in and out of Oakland Gatwick direct flight.
That's because I was told by the talk with the crew.
I spent a lot of time in the back talking to the crew.
That's because Norwegian is making this trip.
Everything Norwegian Airlines does, British Air copy.
Yeah, and they're doing the same with Austin.
That's why we have a flight from London to Austin.
And I think they even have a budget airline that they're going to do.
A special one for South By or something.
So we go to find the Gatwick.
Which is, I don't know, it's like three days away from London, but it's close enough.
Well, you took the train, though.
Yeah, the train.
The guy with the Wicke Express is nice.
If you order online in advance, when you have more than a couple people with you, they drop the price, so it's a $10 ride.
Oh, nice.
It's a pretty good deal.
So, on the way back, I want to mention this.
It's so commercial in London right now.
I've never seen so many department stores.
There must be I brought up with my wife.
I said, how many, or anybody, how many Macy's are in New York City?
Big city, you know.
I don't know.
Four, maybe?
One.
You surprised me, even.
Just one, yes.
Fifth Avenue Macy's.
The big, giant Macy's.
There's probably 150 Marks and Spencers.
Yeah.
Name any other department store.
There's hundreds of them.
Harrods.
How many Harrods are there?
You got me on that.
Aha, only one.
Hello.
There's more than one.
They have a bunch of these outlets because all these stores now are doing these little food stores for prepared food.
Right.
And Marks and Spencer has one or two or ten or twenty or a hundred.
And so people are really buying this prepared food.
It's already made for you.
Yeah, and they get it at the gas station at Tesco's.
Everywhere.
Yes, Tesco's got a little store there.
So they don't cook.
They eat chemicals packaged in plastic and they smoke.
Yeah.
Woohoo!
The beaches are open.
So it's gotten so commercial, you go to Gatwick to go to the gates.
Yeah.
You go through the check, you know, and they give you a hassle for whatever you're doing.
My wife had some clotted cream.
Oh, yeah.
You could turn that into a bomb.
You could blow shit up with that.
Yeah.
So they go to gates.
So here's the gates.
Let's go.
Instead of going to the gates, they walk you through a random walk that's required.
You can't get out of this.
There's no shortcuts.
There's no way around it.
Through a giant duty-free store.
So you start at a duty-free and then it wanders you around just like an Ikea.
Oh, that's right.
It has a pathway.
You can't get off the path.
To get to the gate, you're forced to walk through it.
I remember this.
Yes.
Jeez.
Yeah.
That is deplorable.
Yeah.
And meanwhile, while you're going through, they're spraying people with perfume.
You know, there's a bunch of hawkers all along the way.
Come on in here!
We got your booze!
We got your booze!
But then they're spraying people with perfume.
We're going on an airplane.
We don't want a bunch of people coated with stinky perfume.
But okay.
You finally get to the gate.
Once you get to the area where there's the gate and they have these closed little gate areas, there's no bathrooms anywhere nearby.
And they had these vending machines, none of which worked.
So they could be making money there, but they don't.
So we're coming back into Oakland.
Now they got these new machines, these self-scanners.
Oh yeah, you put your passport on it.
You put your passport in this thing, and you type in a bunch of information, and then you get this little card, which is like a boarding pass with your picture on it, because they take a photo of you.
And then you get this little piece of paper, and then you have to go to another station, which is passport control.
What did they put this extra step in there for?
Maybe they're just beta testing and getting it ready.
I actually believe that's what they're doing.
So those guys who are in the booth, they're probably worried.
They're like, hmm, hate those booths.
Somebody pointed out that if you're handicapped or in any way, shape, or form, even minor in London, you're screwed.
They have no considerations.
You can't find elevators.
There's no ramps.
It's pathetic.
Wow.
Were there any highlights of stuff that you liked?
I'm going to finish this here.
Dog shit.
People figure the government's going to clean it up so they have their dogs meet.
You know, Jay is a dog walker, so she notices this.
There's dog shit everywhere because they don't pick up after their dog.
It's an outrage.
Well...
Also, Mimi and her friend Teresa spotted a fox floating around.
Remember when Christina was still living in London?
The fox would go in and steal her shoes?
Yeah.
So the foxes are all over the place, and they round them up and then drop them off in the country where they die because they don't know what to do there.
But there's foxes all over town, and you see no stray cats, no stray dogs.
There's nothing in London that's strayed.
Well, the fox eat them, probably.
Yes.
And they also take care of the rat population, so that's a plus.
That is a plus.
How about garbage?
Speaking of rats, is there garbage everywhere, or is that pretty tight?
There is, in some parts of, like off Oxford Street, you'll find these areas where there's just piles of garbage.
Hmm.
Interesting.
Oh yeah, here's another one.
So British Air apparently has the worst computer system of all the airlines.
In fact, it even went down for an entire day once.
And what it is, they used to have a good old COBOL system, but they wanted to upgrade and modernize.
And so they never really did that.
What they did instead was buy a surplus computer system from Qantas.
Oh, really?
Qantas ditched their system because it was a piece of crap, and somehow the British air geniuses bought it.
Oh, no.
And it doesn't work.
And everything gets shipped off to India.
So anything that has to do with anything is all India programmers, and they're just, you know, we know what that's all about.
They stink.
Um...
Muse, Trendy, IRA versus...
Speaking of that, there was a glitch at American Airlines.
A glitch.
I said it.
I said it.
You said it.
And so they've accidentally have no pilots booked for Christmas season.
Right.
I know.
It's funny.
I wonder what they're going to do.
They have to pay everybody...
Extra.
Overtime, yeah.
Lose a bunch of money on that deal.
Professor Ted laughing his ass off in jail.
Mimi finally got sick of the British accent for some reason.
There was a panic in one of the subway stations because two guys got into a fight and somebody yelled, he's got a gun!
And it was trampling and people got hurt.
Oh, you guys were in the tube?
No, it was Oxford Circus and we were there a little while earlier.
Um...
So people are on edge is what you're saying.
I don't need any more of these stories.
But people are on edge then, it sounds like.
Yeah, they all ran like crazy.
Oh, that sucks.
Anyway, other than that, the weather was good.
It wasn't raining.
It never rained at all, luckily.
And it was freezing cold.
And we were over by Paddington in an Airbnb.
And it was, I think, a productive trip.
I went to Berry Brothers and Rudd and picked up a bunch of wine and cognac and stuff, which we shipped back.
I was going to say, you didn't put that in your suitcase.
We did check luggage.
I just want to go back to someone in the tube, which is what you say instead of Subway, Yelled, he's got a gun?
Two guys got into a fight, apparently.
And they were beating each other up, and somebody yelled, he's got a gun.
And everybody panicked and ran out of the subway as fast as they could.
And they shut down Oxford Circus.
They cordoned off the area.
It was a terrorist attack, they thought.
It became a big news item for about four or five hours.
They kind of deconstructed it and figured there was nothing going on.
Two guys got into a fight.
But, yeah.
Yeah, apparently a bunch of people were trampled.
So you had a good time.
Was it just you and Mimi in the Airbnb?
No, it was me, Mimi, JC, Jesse.
Oh, the whole family.
Oh, okay.
And Theodorable?
Eric.
Eric didn't make it.
Theodorable?
Theodorable.
Jay and her boyfriend, and then we hosted Mitt Gaiman and Teresa Holcomb.
We're married, so we had the places packed.
I thought it was a logistics nightmare, personally.
Sounds like it.
How about breakfast?
Oh, they all scattered and went to these different English breakfast places and then complained bitterly.
How about the greasy food?
Well, not about that, but nobody had bangers, apparently.
The piece of the good British banger.
Hi, I'm Alice.
I'm from California.
I want some bangers in my ash.
Yeah.
You gotta ask for full English.
That's what you do.
That's what they did.
Oh, and they didn't have it?
I'm the only one who ever asked for bangers and mash because I was trying to get a decent banger.
Yeah.
And it was, I never got one the whole time.
Oh, damn.
Well, I did a lot of shopping.
It's because you and Mimi weren't alone.
That's why there was no banger for you.
There you go.
Hey.
Restaurant.
Oh, here's a, yeah, I got to point this out.
JC spotted this idea.
He says that Yelp, and we kind of documented this, he says Yelp and most of the you review it sites, you know, where you go to a restaurant and you review it, are useless in the UK. Really?
Yes, because everybody judges almost solely on service.
And not on food.
No, no.
Food, forget it.
It doesn't make any difference.
So you can have the world's greatest meal.
You'll get one star because the guy didn't kill your water.
I hate to say it, but, you know, the Brits, man, they got the priorities mixed up.
Yes.
And they don't tip.
And they don't tip.
So we also went, because I wanted to introduce the kids to this place.
This is my last story.
I'll scatter them out through the next day or two.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So I wanted to show you, yeah, let's go to Simpsons in the Strand.
A famous old place where they roll a card out and they have a guy that carves, you know, a carvery.
And you get a big piece of meat.
I've been there probably five times.
I like to show people the place.
Roast beef?
Did you get roast beef?
What kind of cut?
Yeah, roast beef.
And so you have, they've cleaned the place.
It's not as grimy as it used to always be.
It used to be kind of Old-fashioned grime.
It was kind of nice.
And I was reading somebody blasting it in the Independent, and I was thinking, it can't be that bad.
So we go there.
For one thing, there's none of the old Englishmen who do the guy coming out with the carving.
They have a French guy, a young kid, a millennial, chopping away, and another guy was from India or Bangalore, and he's got the roast of lamb, and he's chunking off pieces.
It's like he's just randomly...
So you get a plate full of chunks.
He was no good.
The roast beef is overcooked.
Oh, no.
You can't have that.
Overcooked.
Overcooked.
And then the same thing.
This guy didn't know how to carve.
And so you get a chunk here and a piece and a thick piece and a thin piece and a piece of scrap.
And this is all on this plate.
It was the worst.
I couldn't imagine this meal being any worse than this.
Service was good.
Service was good.
Five stars.
Five stars on Yelp.
Yes, perfect.
So I'm not going back.
All right.
Ever.
Ever.
No, I'll go to...
I'll try...
No, not back to Simpsons.
I'm not going to go back there.
Oh, you go back to the UK. Oh, yeah.
Oh, okay.
I just didn't want our listeners to think you had a bad experience.
No, and I liked them.
By the way, our producers are dynamite.
Yeah, we had a couple of nights, too, didn't we?
I saw some night rings being flashed in photos.
Yes, the night rings being flashed.
They wore the rings and flashed them.
And I just thought it was a very intelligent crowd of people, and they seemed to get along with each other, and I thought it was a good meetup.
Oh, good.
I'm glad you did that.
Yeah, I am too, actually.
Yeah, outstanding.
And now it's time for your sexual harassment update.
Tell me about the sexuality.
It's in your DNA. You know, we go on vacation.
You've been waiting for three shows to play that clip.
Fuck yeah, sorry, yes.
Yes, I've been waiting.
I said, oh my god, I can't believe it.
This happens and we don't have a show.
Yeah.
I mean, I was all ready to settle in, you know, like, okay, I'm just not going to think about the world.
You know, we got Thanksgiving, it's all fine.
I'm like, oh no, Charlie Rose!
Yeah.
Well...
Charlie Rose and Garrison Keillor.
Before we go into Charlie Rose, let's play this Garrison Keillor clip.
Because this is all the...
The news media says they couldn't associate it with Trump.
Damn!
Damn!
They just gave Garrison Keillor short-sheeted by CBS. Folksy radio host Garrison Keillor was fired today for what Minnesota Public Radio calls inappropriate behavior.
Keillor told the Minneapolis Star Tribune he had put his hand on a woman's bare back to console her.
He said her shirt was open and his hand went up about six inches.
She recoiled and he said he apologized.
Keeler said the woman forgave him.
We continued to be friendly, he said, right up until her lawyer called.
Bull crap.
Another really ugly looking guy.
Well, Keeler, who is a very ugly looking guy, looks a little like Al Franken, I decided.
Bookmark that.
I need to talk about the similarities in appearance.
Yeah.
Now, Keillor is the big loss here.
I mean, Charlie Rose is bad enough because his interview show is very popular amongst the liberal cognoscenti.
But Keillor is on NPR. He has this show that he does.
He's been doing it for 30 years.
I've never heard of the show.
His name is vaguely familiar to me, but I've never heard of it.
If you're a liberal's liberal in the Bay Area or any place else across the country, you would be listening to this show.
It's like a live radio show, very old-fashioned, very good, well-produced show that is, you know, he's got guests on that sing, and he's got, it's like, and it's in a big theater.
It's almost like the 1920s, more like the mid-1930s type of radio show, variety show that's actually produced as a radio show.
It's a fantastic show.
And I don't know what they're going to do without this guy.
Because he, for all practical purposes, carried the show.
It's like having the Jack Benny show without Jack Benny.
And everywhere I'm hearing when people are talking about it, NPR, they say, no, no, no, no.
It's not NPR. It's independently produced.
It's not part of NPR. They only air it.
It was really quick to say that.
And please pay no attention to the news director who we fired.
Yes, it's produced by Minnesota Public Radio and that they distributed themselves through one of the networks of distribution.
There's a bunch of...
Public Radio, having worked in it, is not just NPR. NPR is a syndicate and the biggest one.
It's not just a syndicate.
It's a cabal.
It's a cabal.
So that came out and I thought that was the funniest of the group.
But the big one...
But we might as well start with Charlie Rose.
I don't know if I have any Charlie Rose clips.
You might.
No, I don't really, because it was so shocking, really.
Shocking, and then it wasn't shocking.
Because I remember, you know, I remember these guys.
I remember these douchebags from show business particularly.
But it's all surrounded around power.
Some kind of power position.
Well, his thing was he liked to walk around naked.
Oh, that's just Charlie that you see.
He's been doing this for like 20 or 30 years.
This is all coming down on these guys all at once, and they didn't expect it.
And the big one, of course, that came out is Matt Lauer, and I've got a bunch of clips.
Yeah, I got a couple clips, too.
Well, here's a creepy clip when he's with Anne Hathaway.
This is Lauer with Hathaway.
Okay.
Oh, wait, wait.
Let me set it up a little better.
All right.
She was caught with an upskirt shot getting out of a car or something.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And then he made a comment about it.
Yeah, he had to comment on it.
Anne Hathaway, good morning.
Good morning, Matt.
I've seen a lot of you lately.
Sorry about that.
I'd be happy to stay home, but the film.
Let's just get it out of the way.
You had a little wardrobe malfunction the other night.
What's the lesson learned from something like that, other than that you keep smiling, which you always do?
Now, was that a complete beaver shot, or was it a panties?
I don't know.
I don't remember.
But he was all jacked up about it.
I can't believe this escaped my attention.
What did she learn from this?
Here's the thing.
First of all, this broke our entire model of, hey, you don't hear a lot of sexual harassment charges against good-looking guys.
Matt Lauer arguably is a good-looking guy, although I'm not, you know, I don't know.
I think he's an acquired taste.
But he's definitely, you know, I mean, here's my initial thought was, wow, the Clintons took him down.
You know, because he was...
Hillary hates him.
And he was droning on and on about the emails.
Remember that town hall?
And she got really pissed off.
And we had some...
Oh, that's a good one.
We had some information from, you know, background from people who were there.
We had the entire transcript of how she was yelling at everybody.
And just Matt Lauer.
And you F him.
And it's like, she was really, really mad.
And so I thought, well, maybe...
Maybe, you know, and it still could be true, but then when I saw the TMZ video, which I don't have any, it's hard to hear, where he's, you know, what happened was they cut to the affiliate break in the mornings, about five minutes,
and I think Kentucky, a station in Kentucky, didn't cut to the local, you know, the local five-minute news break, and so they just kept that on the air, and their sub-staff, you know, like PA, production assistant, He's doing something just slightly off camera.
The camera's focused on him and he has this douchebag look and he's one of these guys and he says, yeah, that's a nice looking sweater.
Yeah, keep bending over like that.
That's nice.
It has a nice view.
Nice view.
And I'm like, oh my God, he's one of those guys.
And these guys really exist, and these are the same guys who at the stoplight will turn up their stereo to 10 to impress the chick next to him in the car.
These are douche...
I gotta douche him.
Douchebag!
But this has been going on for a long time, so I still think it's possible that the Clintons are like, fuck it, let's get this guy.
But wait, now, and we come back to my bookmark, Best friends with Matt Lauer, who was executive producer of the Today Show, is Jeff Zucker.
And I look at those two guys, they have the same look.
The same kind of bald head, a little bit of fuzzy hair on top.
They have a similar kind of look.
I'm thinking maybe this can go all the way to Zucker and CNN. That would be great.
For sure, NBC is problematic.
I got a clip here.
Let me see.
This is...
Okay, let me play this one first.
An NBC News spokesperson tonight says two more accusers have come forward since the news broke this morning.
And, quote, we can say unequivocally that prior to Monday night, current NBC News management was never made aware of any complaints about Matt Lauer's conduct.
We've reached out to Matt Lauer tonight, Lester, and so far we've not heard back.
All right, Stephanie, we know you'll continue.
So there you go.
Current NBC management.
Yes, I have a similar clip from ABC. This says MNC, but it means NBC management on Matt Lauer.
And then it's a CYA, and I'll tell you what, you can hear it.
Yours is good.
I think this is better.
To have sex with her, David.
And Lindsay, tonight, NBC News out with a new statement.
Yes, they just released a statement not too long ago, David, saying that we can say unequivocally that prior to Monday night, current NBC News management was never made aware of any complaints about Matt Lauer's conduct, David.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, so we know what that means.
Andy Lack, who runs NBC, is, I think that's his name, he's only been there for a year and a half.
Well, he would have heard of it.
Current NBC? Well, yeah.
Well, the guy just got there.
He's not going to...
But you have to assume, because of the way these things operate, and nobody's stupid, that everybody knew all about this all along.
Yeah, they did.
And it's clear to me that, and this again points back to just a general theory...
The New York Times and Vanity Fair were working together, and the way it sounds to me is they got word that these articles were going to come out, and that's why NBC tried to get in front of it, as what Tina would say, get out in front of the news and say, oh, you know, we just found out this guy's a douchebag, and we're firing him, and...
So here's something about Variety here.
Unnamed women tell Variety they were sexually harassed.
Their accounts, Variety says, corroborated by friends or colleagues.
The magazine also reports that several women made complaints to executives at NBC, which were ignored.
Now, NBC, we've had a lot of stuff going on.
Their news director, I've lost count of how many people at NBC are douchebags.
And you know, it's like pedophilia.
They hire people who are like-minded.
It may be a real, real horrible nest in there.
Yeah, and you had Zucker.
That's what I'm saying.
Zucker's now at CNN, so it's going to be interesting.
Yeah, you're going to hire your kind.
I mean, it's like, this is a common thing in business.
You have to be careful you don't have these little empires going on underneath your head.
Management, because you end up with these guys, they hire their own, you know, you end up having a gay cabal, or you have what happened at Homeland Security, which was a lesbian cabal.
Yes.
That was a tough cabal.
It never gets talked about.
Here's the New York Times bit.
Hey, Shepard, the firing of Matt Lauer may have been a shock to his Today Show colleagues, but not to reporters at the New York Times and Variety, who say they were working on pieces about Lauer and alleged sexual misconduct with multiple women for weeks.
And months.
The NBC News boss, Andy Lack, said that the complaint Monday to HR by a female NBC employee was the first lodged against Lauer since he started out at the Peacock Network more than two decades ago but says the complaint was detailed and a clear violation of company standards.
The New York Post reports that the woman claimed that Lauer sexually assaulted her during the So she Olympics in 2014.
A reporter for Variety tweeted today that she and a colleague had been working on a Matt Lauer story for months and that NBC was aware there are multiple women we've spoken to with far-ranging accusations against Lauer, the reporter wrote.
The power of journalism has never been more evident with this cultural change.
No word on if or when that story might be released, Shepard.
And behind me, all these barricades being set up for the Rockefeller Center Christmas tree lighting, which is for tonight.
I guess not.
I have the complete report.
This is the ABC version, which I thought was the best overall.
Then I want to play a couple of clips that show you, especially CBS... It's about Matt Lauer, but let's make it about Trump.
It's great to have you with us here on a Wednesday night, and for millions of Americans, it was a stunning headline to wake up to.
Matt Lauer, the longtime host of the Today Show, has been fired.
His co-host, Savannah Guthrie, her voice trembling, she learned just before the show.
Lauer is accused of inappropriate sexual behavior and late today, new allegations now surfacing.
Off camera, Guthrie and Hoda Kotb seen hugging.
The close-knit team clearly shaken.
And tonight, as these new allegations now surface, NBC News out with a new statement.
Did they know anything before the complaint this week?
ABC's Lindsay Davis leading us off.
Savannah Guthrie's voice trembling at the top of the Today Show.
Good morning.
Breaking news overnight.
Matt Lauer has been terminated from NBC News.
And then, her first moment on camera without Matt Lauer by her side.
And good morning, everybody.
Welcome to Today.
And Hoda's here with me this morning because this is a sad morning here at Today and at NBC News.
Just moments ago, NBC News Chairman Andy Lack sent the following note to In the email, Lack writes, Dear Colleagues, on Monday night we received a detailed complaint from a colleague about inappropriate sexual behavior in the workplace by Matt Lauer.
It represented, after serious review, a clear violation of our company's standards.
As a result, we've decided to terminate his employment.
While it is the first complaint about his behavior in the over 20 years he's been at NBC News, we were also presented with reason to believe this may not have been an isolated incident.
We just learned this moments ago, just this morning.
As I'm sure you can imagine, we are devastated and we are still processing all of this.
And I will tell you right now, we do not know more than what I just shared with you.
I'm sure we will be learning more details in the hours and days to come.
And we promise we will share that with you.
And Hoda, I mean...
You know, for the moment, all we can say is that we are heartbroken.
I'm heartbroken for Matt.
He is my dear, dear friend and my partner.
And he is beloved by many, many people here.
And I'm heartbroken for the brave colleague who came forward to tell her story and any other women who have their own stories to tell.
And we are grappling with a dilemma that so many people have faced these past few weeks.
How do you reconcile your love for someone with the revelation that they have behaved badly?
I love there.
You know, and the fact that she kind of was shocked and stunned and it's a sad day when it should be a happy day to get rid of guys like this.
Yeah.
I don't believe a word of it.
I think she was either involved with this guy at some point or something else because...
Unless she's an idiot.
You know who worked in broadcasting environments.
I think you nailed it.
Yeah.
You work in broadcasting environments.
Unless you're completely above it all and you hate the crew and everybody else in between, they talk.
They talk to each other.
It's like a farming community.
You know everybody's business.
Yes.
So this was just like, what?
But, you know, apparently what, you know, the main infraction was rape in Sochi.
Yeah, yeah.
And, you know, there's some, well, look.
Yeah, get rid of him.
I always thought he was a douchebag.
Remember I was spending some time in an airport with him.
Back in 2001.
Oh, what happened?
Well, because he had done stuff at VH1 before he got the Today Show gig, so I'd seen him, but I had upper hand.
Like, I'm MTV. Oh, hey, VH1 boy, how you doing?
And actually, no, it was before he started Today Show.
It was, I think, maybe the Iraq War?
Could be.
Anyway, so we were watching TV in a bar in an airport and flights were delayed.
And I just thought, you know, you're icky.
Icky.
That's what I thought it was.
Icky.
Yeah, that's whatever.
It doesn't matter.
But holy moly.
This is great for women.
I'm trying to understand how they feel about it and what they want to do.
Which doesn't seem to be anyone...
Okay, we're going to get the douchebags out.
I think women are...
What I hear someone say, yes, we're renegotiating the social contract between men and women.
I think we're just weeding out the douchebags is what we're doing.
Let's hope.
CBS, of course, can't really do a story.
For some reason, they really took every mention of any of these stories, they had to bring it back to Trump.
Yeah, why let a good scandal go to waste?
So imagine having that same report you just heard, and then you tack it, this is what you tack on the end of it.
What?
Making Matt Lauer about Trump.
Ah, got it.
His legacy is cooked.
NBC News Chairman Andy Lack said this was the first complaint about Lauer's behavior in over 20 years at the company.
Anthony?
Bianna, thank you.
One of the first comments on the Lauer story came from the White House.
Margaret Brennan is there.
You're with me this morning because this is a sad morning here at Today and at NBC News.
The president's response came just 15 minutes after NBC's stunning announcement.
There you go.
Wow, Mr.
Trump tweeted, Matt Lauer was just fired from NBC for inappropriate sexual behavior in the workplace.
What the president didn't mention was that more than a dozen women have accused him of sexual misconduct.
Last October, in the final weeks of the presidential campaign, Summer Zervos claimed she had repeatedly been harassed by Mr.
Trump in 2007.
Because I'm being truthful, and I'll always be truthful.
She was a contestant on his NBC show, The Apprentice.
And they tried to push him away.
I pushed his chest to put space between us.
And I said, come on, man, get real.
Earlier this fall, Zervos' attorney served Mr.
Trump a subpoena to preserve all documents concerning any accusations that were made during the campaign that he subjected any woman to unwanted sexual touching and or sexually inappropriate behavior.
The president's lawyers fought the request.
Throughout the campaign, then-candidate Trump dismissed the allegations.
The events never happened.
Never.
All of these liars will be sued after the election is over.
But Mr.
Trump has not followed through on that threat.
And one of his accusers told us that she never believed he would sue.
White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders in late October.
Is the official White House position that all of these women are lying?
Yeah, we've been clear on that from the beginning and the president's spoken on it.
You can do anything.
Whatever you want.
Grab them by the...
The president may also be trying to distance himself from the infamous Access Hollywood tape.
One Republican ally says the president has privately cast doubt on whether it was his voice on the NBC recording, even though he had publicly apologized for it.
Now, the White House said the president's view on that tape has not changed, but one Republican source said the president often creates his own reality.
Yes, the ultimate reality.
It goes on like this, but I think it's going to backfire because the more they play that tape...
And everybody played it because it has something to do with Matt Lauer?
No, because they wanted to play it.
I'm sorry, you keep hearing Trump never saying he ever did anything.
He says you can't.
No, in fact, for our liar-in-chief, he is telling an absolute truth because what he said was, when you're a star...
Then women will let you do anything.
You can grab them by the pussy if you want.
I'm not saying he did it.
I bet he did.
But yes!
And that's exactly what we see with these douchebags in media.
You know, it starts, oh, I star power and you can kind of do anything.
And then, you know, Matt Lauer took it too far, clearly.
So the president was telling the truth for a change.
Well, anyway, so this whole thing is, you know, it kind of, it's interesting how they, because they still have the Conyers thing.
In fact, here's another example.
This is CBS again.
They got the John Conyers, that old fart that's from Michigan that is, you know, apparently walks around half naked in his office and he's grabbing tit and pinching ass and doing all the rest of it.
And by the way, Katie Couric was caught on some talk show saying that Matt Lauer used to pinch her in the ass all the time.
But here again, CBS, the CBS, making conures about Trump.
Geez, this is great.
Now to the sexual misconduct allegations that have shaken Congress with the Dean of the House, its longest serving member among the accused.
Democrat John Conyers was holed up in Detroit today after leaving D.C. in the middle of the work week.
He is at home with his family.
They are discussing the allegations.
Colleagues of Conyers in the Congressional Black Caucus say it's not their place to urge the veteran lawmaker to resign over claims that he propositioned staffers.
We think that is a decision for he and his family and his constituents to make.
The House did vote today to belatedly require anti-harassment training for members and their aides.
And the resolution is agreed to.
There's also a bipartisan push to prevent lawmakers from using government funds to settle with accusers, as Conyers did.
Florida Republican Ron DeSantis.
If you're somebody that's in power, you can misbehave.
The taxpayer will bail you out.
House Speaker Paul Ryan said even he isn't informed when members pay off victims.
Does leading by example on sexual harassment mean Congress should say more about the women who have accused President Trump of misconduct?
Right now we're focused on making sure this place works the right way.
Yeah, they're not really focused on that, but we need more show business people to be outed so that they can just carry on as normal.
I was thinking about that.
Seriously?
If you get enough of them outed, Then it's like, oh, well, I guess that's the way everybody's that way in show business, and we can, you know, go back to get our jobs back.
Go back, watch Kevin Spacey.
Oh, I'm telling you, within five years, everybody who has now been scandalized can be back on the air.
Maybe not in the same position, but they can be working again.
America loves a comeback story.
I'm sorry, man.
I'm a douche.
Yeah, they do.
And I think these guys are good actors.
The better actors, like Spacey, will pull it off.
Yes.
He's a good actor.
He knows what he's doing.
There's a real twofer now in this whole scenario.
The twofer is Norm Pattis, who I know personally.
And Norm Pattis, I know from the radio business, You may know him as the regent, or is it a regent or the regent?
I don't know.
From the University of California school system.
Ah.
And he's in trouble now.
Teresa Watanabe, were you there on Wednesday when a band of UC Berkeley students showed up to protest Regent Norman Pattis and demand his resignation?
Can you tell us what that was like?
Yeah.
Yes, I was there.
There were four women, four Berkeley students, who got up and they demanded that the regent, Pattis, resign.
For his actions involving a...
It wasn't a staff member.
It was actually a podcaster, Heather McDonald, who was doing an ad for a...
I mean, really, if you're going to harass...
I mean, you've really got to go that low on the show biz rung.
I mean, you can't get anything better than a podcaster, Norm Pattis.
A hundred millionaire.
Seriously.
Who was the name of the...
Don't worry.
I got a clip.
Don't worry.
A podcaster, Heather McDonald...
memory foam bra and Regent Pat went into the broadcast room and joked that, you know, basically, can I hold your breasts?
Anyway, he apologized at that time.
The regents subsequently adopted a policy on regential misconduct, allowing them to sanction regents who they believe engage in inappropriate behavior.
Okay, so of course, I have the recording because she was recording a promo.
Now, Norm Pattis, he sold, I want to say Westwood One.
Yes, Westwood One, huge, very, very, very successful radio syndication company.
Used to own, I think they might even own some stations at some point.
And, you know, he's, I think, maybe also ran Sirius XM for a while.
I mean, the guy is just super famous in the radio business.
And he started, that's where I know him from, from Z100 in New York.
You know, he's a pompous asshole.
But that's, you know, hey, he's in the radio business.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, man.
He also started Podcast One, which is this bullshit app with all kinds of bull crap.
Right, right, right.
We talked about it on the show.
Oh, yeah.
It's like, oh, yeah, we're going to get advertised.
He's trying to replicate the radio model, and we know the network can't be monetized.
So here he is walking in on Heather McDonald.
Her show is called Juicy Scoop.
Her podcast, Juicy Scoop.
You can just imagine that the guy goes down the list like, ah, Juicy Scoop, yeah.
Let me see what she looks like.
Have you looked at her, Heather McDonald?
No.
Should I? Yeah, I think we should.
I haven't looked at her, actually.
Let's see.
Let's see what kind of gal.
Oh, yes.
Oh, this is...
I know her.
She was on Chelsea Handler's show.
I don't know if you want to admit it.
Yeah, so she's a comedian.
Oh, and she's a comedian?
She should have thought that was funny.
Well, here we go.
And one day I was there, and at the end of my podcast, I was doing all my ads.
Because, you know, I'm a millionaire for my podcast.
I see him walk into the booth, and I'm like, and I say, hey, I want to talk to you, but I lied, and I said, I have to go to a meeting.
Now, she...
She said she lied.
That means that she was already uncomfortable with his presence.
To go to a meeting.
And then he comes into the room where I'm taping.
And I go, well, I've got one more ad to do.
Let me just get through it.
And I start to do the ad, and this is what happened.
Oh, my God.
I can't do it.
I don't have any time.
Hi.
No, I'm just about to do my last ad.
My last ad.
Oh, okay.
Go ahead.
Hold on.
Hold on.
You're doing good.
Oh, thank you.
You're doing good, baby.
You're doing good.
He should be saying you're doing well.
You're doing good.
This guy's a regent at University of California and he says you're doing good?
Holy mackerel!
You're doing good.
Hey, I'm Norm Pettis.
I can do whatever the hell I want to do.
You're doing good.
You're doing good.
Oh, thank you.
Your numbers are going up nicely.
Your numbers are going up nicely.
Does that sound like Ron Bloom or what?
Like, your numbers are going up, the audience is expanding.
I love Ron.
That's exactly what he does.
Don't worry, he doesn't listen to the show.
Someone will.
Your numbers are up.
What kind of bull?
Bull, bull, bull.
Your numbers are going up nicely.
Okay.
We're getting more interest in the show.
Okay.
Stop a second.
What?
Let's at least give us a little background.
What is this show?
Is this a University of California show?
No!
Is this one of his Podcast One shows?
Yeah, this is a Podcast One show called The Juicy Scoop.
They have no idea what the numbers are on any of these shows.
No, you can't measure it properly.
There's no way to do it.
But I like the one where there's a lot of interest, like meaning advertising, there's a lot of interest for your show.
A lot of interest.
But meanwhile, what she's getting is bra ads, you see?
So it's already offensive.
By the way, I got her picture up.
She is, I don't want to generalize like this, but she's the dime-a-dozen radio girl in a zoo show.
Yeah.
The picture's even like a zoo girl.
Yeah.
Hey, everybody, good morning, WHTZ. Z100, Heather McDonald with you.
Yeah, we've got a cold morning, cold start.
Hey, Scott, what's going on in entertainment?
Woo!
Pretty much.
That's pretty much her.
And so here he is saying, yeah, it's really offensive.
The only ad she got, because, yeah, Podcast One is such a smart idea.
I got it.
We got a girl who likes to show her boobs.
I bet you we can get some bra ads.
Hey, it worked!
We're getting more interest in the show.
It's good.
All right, let me just do this really quick.
Sure.
Okay.
You guys, I love 3rd Love's 24-7 t-shirt bra because it's the most comfortable bra that I've ever owned.
And it's just super smoothing, and it's invisible under every outfit.
John, just so you know, it's super smoothie.
Super smoothie.
Super smoothie.
...bra that I've ever owned.
And it's just super smoothing and it's invisible under every outfit, which is great, especially when you're wearing a light t-shirt, which is so popular.
It's the summer.
And I think it's because the cups are made out of memory foam.
So it molds to the shape and truly gives you the perfect fit.
So here's the thing.
You want a bra that's comfortable.
It's...
You're making me nervous now.
Okay, let me do one more.
He's standing there like a dick.
That's the worst, by the way.
When your boss is there trying to be professional and you're reading a boob ad and you're making me nervous.
No, I agree.
You should have asked him to leave the room so she could concentrate.
He should have left.
He should have gone away.
Yeah, he knows better.
Yeah, that's horrible.
You're making me nervous now.
Okay, let me do one more.
Wait a minute.
Yeah.
Can I hold your breasts?
No.
Would that help?
No.
Okay.
Here's memory foam.
Memory foam hands.
My memory.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Okay.
All right.
Douchebag.
Typical radio douchebag.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I didn't see anything unusual there.
No.
It does give me a reason to play a classic movie clip.
Okay.
Yes, I brought a classic movie clip to the show today.
Oh.
Yes.
Okay.
And this is It's a Mad, Mad World.
As far as I can see, American men have been totally emasculated.
They're like slaves.
They die like flies from coronary thrombosis.
And this positively infantile preoccupation with bosoms.
In all my time in this wretched, god-forsaken country, the one thing that has appalled me most of all is this preposterous preoccupation with bosoms.
Don't you realize that they've become the dominant theme in American culture?
In literature, advertising, and all fields of entertainment, and everything.
I'll wager you anything you like.
If American women stopped wearing brassieres, your whole national economy would collapse overnight.
Words so true.
There you go.
Did you just see that movie?
No, one of our producers sent me the clip.
I thought it was good.
Then I have just one more tie-in to all of this.
Unless you have something else.
No, I'm pretty good on this.
Well, I'm going to wrap it up with more.
And why is this not loading up?
Hello.
New information is coming to light regarding Judge Roy Moore's accusers and throws suspicion on their motivations for accusing him.
Former Alabama police officer Faye Gary previously came forward claiming she was told to be on the lookout for Judge Moore at school games.
In her story, Gary claims Moore was known to harass the cheerleaders at sporting events and even targeted female employees at the Gadsden Mall.
By the way, this is from One America News.
Which is an odd channel.
I think we've talked about it.
It's an odd channel, but they do come up with some interesting reporting.
Their personalities are kind of, you know, iffy.
Anyway.
Her own research revealed no truth behind the claims against Moore at the mall.
In fact, when we spoke to mall employees, no one there even knew anything about it.
But new evidence has emerged and suggests that Fay Gary has a personal axe to grind with Roy Moore.
While Gary claims to have been a police officer in the city of Gadsden, she also has a number of close ties to the underground world of the illicit drug business.
One America News researched the case and found that in 2008, her son Cordero Gary was arrested for distributing drugs.
But before he could ever make it to trial, he was shot and killed.
Her other son, Tracy Jones, is now in a federal prison for distributing cocaine.
Mm-hmm.
And while Gary was supposedly working for law enforcement, those who knew her say they had to keep a tight lip when she was around.
Apparently, Gary was well known for leaking information about police and drug enforcement activities to her drug dealing family.
Matters get even more personal when her brother, Jimmy Wright, comes into the picture.
Wright was also big in the drug business and was arrested for distributing controlled substances back in 1981.
The prosecutor for that case?
Roy Moore.
Not only that, but Moore would go on to make another potentially powerful enemy out of Richard Hagdorn, a criminal and convicted drug dealer who was caught with over two pounds of cocaine.
When Hagdorn got out of prison, he came before Judge Moore on contempt charges because he owed back alimony and child support.
Judge Moore ruled against him on May 18, 1994, for contempt.
Hagdorn was fined $50,000 and is still paying back alimony and child support to this day.
But more interesting than his convictions are his relations.
Richard's brother is none other than David Hagdorn, a longtime editor for the Washington Post.
The same post that broke the story about Moore's alleged involvement with underage girls nearly 40 years ago.
There you go.
Well, what are you going to do?
That's some interesting connections.
Yeah, that was pretty well done.
Yeah, and...
Good find.
But that's, you know, this is Rinky Dink Cable News Network, and I'm surprised that no one else is, even Fox.
You know, where are they?
Shouldn't they be latching onto this story?
Oh, it's so bogus.
Folks, Fox doesn't care.
No, I think you're right.
But I don't trust anything.
I'm sorry.
No, no, go ahead.
I don't trust anything that comes from the Washington Post.
Well, it's hard to.
But, you know, Jeff Bezos, he's the man, so how can we argue with that?
Oh, my.
Well, to continue our policy of being the show from hell...
That's what this one is.
I stupidly closed the spreadsheet, and I don't know why or when it just disappeared.
Oh, it's gone?
I can start while you figure that out if you want.
Yeah, go ahead.
Okay.
We have a few people to thank.
Yes, we do.
But actually, I've done everything wrong now.
I was supposed to say John C. Dvorak was supposed to thank everybody.
Oh yeah, you didn't do that.
You left out the fake intro.
This is what happens.
We take two shows off and the format is blown.
It's completely ruined.
I can't drive the train.
Well, let me say in the morning to you, John C, where the C stands for Cluster F. Dvorak.
Good morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
Good morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
Good morning to all the people in Great Britain.
I'm John C. Dvorak, and the dames and the knights, thank you.
Good morning to everybody in the troll room.
Thank you all for showing up, noagendastream.com.
And now I can't remember offhand who the previous two artists were for the artwork for our Best of Show, which, again, we want to thank Sir Ramsey Kane.
Yes.
People love that show.
Yeah, I know.
I loved it, too.
They liked the Ramsey Kane one, but when I was at the meetup, because the show had played before the meetup, they were talking about what a great show it was.
They said, thank you guys for doing that.
Oh, the show X, you mean?
Yeah, show X. They love show X. Yeah, Tina listened to it.
She's like, wow, I learned a lot of things.
Yeah.
So I guess what happened was, this was kind of a joint idea, but I kind of credited to you for confirming my thoughts on this, which is we were doing these shows, these X series, the 200 series, and we kept just overlaying more new stuff and taking some stuff, actually not taking anything out, just adding to it.
It was about three hours.
And somebody says, it's like an onion, you know, I can't follow it.
Right.
And so you said, I was thinking it, but you said it.
Let's do the whole show.
Let's do the whole show.
Do a new one.
And in fact, I realized it probably saved me an hour or two of editing.
Yeah, because you did all that.
Yeah, so it worked out.
All right.
Do you have your spreadsheet by now?
Oh, and also, yes, noagendaartgenerator.com.
That's where you can go to share your art love with us.
And we need to, you know, man, we take two shows off and there's almost no art.
There's no art for the pre-stream.
Everything's breaking down.
It's like crazy.
We've got to get our groove back.
Yeah, well, hopefully we will eventually.
Mm.
Let me move a couple of things around and I'm ready to rock.
All right.
Okay.
Starting with Sir Truman in Provo, Utah.
500 bucks.
By the way, this is for people out there listening.
This is actually for three shows.
Yeah.
But it turns out to be about as long as it is for one show.
This is another problem with taking two shows off.
Well, we were...
Our numbers were slipping anyway, and so I figure, yeah, take some time off.
Provo, 500 bucks.
Dear John and Adam, I'm giving thanks for your show.
Your analysis, insight, and humor provides calm and sanity.
I have twin sons, 17, that have grown up listening to your show.
Last year, one of my sons came to me literally hyperventilating after watching a military parade and reading a nuclear war article online.
Wow.
My first reaction was, the No Agenda show is two days away.
Hang in there.
My No Agenda listener fantasy would be to go wine shopping at Costco with John.
I should do like a meet-up at Costco and I'll go wine shopping.
He'd be annoyed and I'd love every minute.
My Adam fantasy would be to burn one over an Austin cup of coffee.
As listeners, we need No Agenda goals.
Sir Truman, karma and Putin me.
Much gratitude.
Yes, thank you very much, sir.
Putin!
You've got karma.
Next, $333 from Timothy Pierce.
And I believe...
Oh, I know what happened.
When I rebooted the machine, it took all the...
I had this whole thing set up perfectly to read.
I had all these...
I had the emails all set up.
Yeah.
Believe me, I know.
I know.
When I reboot, I have to set everything.
I have macros, but still.
So, okay.
So the formatting is messed up and you can't read?
No, no.
I can read it.
I just...
I had Pierce's thing ready to go, and then I got to go look him up again.
Ah, I understand.
The conundrum, yes.
You got to hit the squirrel mail.
Yeah.
So I got it.
This is 33333.
John, I'm on a traveling contractor team, upgrading, working on an aviation restructuring plan.
Didn't you send us this already?
Yeah.
This is an old note from November 14th.
Well, that's not that old.
Well, we read it before, though.
Okay.
I remember it.
No new note?
No, there's no new note.
I do not see a new note.
Well, I'm going to give him karma just in case.
You've got karma.
Okay, let's find Kevin Thomas.
Kevin, K-E-V-I-N-T-H-O-M-A-S. People don't realize how hard it is to do this show.
I do.
One person does.
Okay, so he's got three notes.
All right.
It says, I laughed, truth, and then hipster nativity scene.
So I'll start with I laughed.
You can bring it up.
Just a link.
Maybe he doesn't have a note.
Truth.
Let's try that.
Another link.
Just a bear link.
So he's got no note here that I can see.
Okay.
He's got a lot of links, and when dudes named Ben have a little fun...
No, just another link.
Okay, well, Kevin, here's some karma for you.
He's in Smyrna, Georgia, $333.
You've got karma.
Lovely, thank you very much.
Nick Seal in New York City, also $333.
I've listened to the show about two years now, so a de-douching is in order.
You've been de-douched.
I've recently turned 33, and as a gift to myself, I wanted some of that sweet karma that's helping to keep the world sane.
Everyone can at least hit someone in the mouth to spread the word, so stop making excuses and start contributing.
The No Agenda show is a beacon of light in this brainwashed world.
Thank you, John and Adam, and all the producers who make it possible.
Jingles, Goat Karma, and 33 The Magic Number, please.
33, that's the magic number.
Goat Karma!
It's the magic number.
You've got...
Karma.
Black Pete, the white knight of Cambridge.
333.
Cambridge, Great Britain.
Oh, he's up there in college town.
Hi, Black Pete here.
White Knight of the Cambridge and the Fens here.
Thanks to John and family for creating a fantastic meet-up situation.
I really enjoyed meeting your family and the No Agenda family.
Thank you, Mimi.
We also had another person I should mention.
Brooke Gammon was there.
She's the 16-year-old daughter of Teresa and Mitt.
So we had nine people.
Nice.
And she wants to go into broadcasting.
Surely you advised her not to do anything of the kind.
I didn't say anything.
Wise man.
Yes, very wise.
It's funny because Mitt Gammon has an unbelievable Cockney accent.
And she's got a perfect British, you know, proper accent.
I found that to be interesting.
Yes.
How do they get along?
They don't.
I recently enjoyed meeting your family.
Thank you, Mimi, for reminding me to get my act together on the Night's Rings.
John, could you ask Mimi to name the book she recommended written in the 1700s regarding crowds and delusional group thinking?
Hmm.
They're recommended it to me.
What book is that?
I like to read that book.
We saw an example being played out in real time with the closure of Oxford Street Tube Station we talked about earlier in the show.
Two goat karmas, please.
First one for the lovely ladies in my life, Silky Cindy, my super lady, Naomi, something as a...
I think it's Naomi Shut Up Slave White.
Shut up, slave white, my daughter with attitude, and my amazing 86-year-old mom, Edith, who just keeps on living life to the fullest.
And the second, a cam chain karma, cam chain karma from my trusty diesel Mazda 6.
Okay.
All right.
I think we can do something for you here.
Shut up, slave.
You've got karma.
You ask, we make it happen.
Baron Ed of the Pugner.
200 bucks last.
This is all we got today.
Again...
Slow day.
Patrick Baronet of the Pugner Order.
Nick the Rat Radio is amazing.
No agenda listener should go check it out if they haven't figured out the meaning of life.
No jingles, no karma.
Okay.
Well, that's it then.
Yeah, that's it.
Plug for Nick the Rat.
That's how it ends.
There you go.
That's our donation segment.
Hey, you know, we do have to keep the show working.
I know a lot of people are saving up for show 1,000, though.
I have a feeling.
They are.
Yes.
I think it's now become a thing where let's see how long we can make Adam and John do this.
Ah, that'd be funny.
Let's all team up.
See, this is the only weakness in our model.
With the advertising model, you boycott the advertisers, you shame the advertisers.
You can get someone off the air easily.
Easily.
It's the third rail of mainstream media.
This, they can just wear us down to the bone.
Yeah, well.
And we just died.
Today's show proves that.
Now, please think about supporting us for our show coming up on Sunday.
You can do that at dvorak.org slash NA. And we're back, so you can let everybody know it's time to propagate the formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
We were, was there someone about Black was there someone about Black Pete in the donation segment there?
Yeah, Black Pete.
The white knight of Cambridge.
Yeah.
So I'd like to play this clip for you.
I think it is Black Pete related.
It is Black Pete related.
For those of you who don't know, Black Pete is the...
Yeah, he's the St.
Nikolaus' helper.
This is a Dutch custom.
And for several hundred years, he's been coming in his steamboat around December 1st, because on December 5th, he and his Black Peets, he has a white horse, they gallop around on the rooftop, sound familiar?
But the Black Peets, they go down the chimney, and, you know, if...
So they're covered with soot, and thus they're black.
No, that's not at all why they're black.
They were Moors.
This is supposedly a real guy, you know, St.
Nicholas, and he helped the Moors.
And so these were Moors, and they were really dark black.
And that's the true reason behind it, because it's a historical, fictional kind of celebration.
But don't the Dutch wear blackface?
Well, yes, the Dutch wear blackface, but in the context of the Dutch, it has nothing to do with blackface as we know it here as a racist.
It has nothing to do with minstrel shows.
Nothing to do with minstrel shows whatsoever.
And by the way, blacks wore blackface in minstrel shows.
That's where it started.
So in Scandinavia, as you can imagine, there's Dutch shops.
And this is a Dutch shop who have had to cancel their traditional Sinterklaas and Black Pete celebration at the store.
Because everyone's aware of it now, and it's all racist.
What's this racist stuff going on?
And I really like it when there's Dutch people speaking English, especially with Canadian accents.
It's great.
It's not racist.
Svartipit, as a boy, was a moor from Spain, and they were dark-skinned.
And St.
Nicholas took him in and took care of him.
And they're not handled as slaves.
They are his helpers.
And I'm very upset that they will disturb this children's tradition for so many years.
He will disturb this children's tradition for so many years?
You've got a Yiddish accent in there.
Well, that is a little bit of it.
But she's very disturbed by it all.
For so many years, it has been going on...
I mean, I was brought up with Sinterklaas and Swatapete and that was fantastic.
And now they're trying...
I was brought up with it.
It was fantastic with the black face.
What's your problem?
And that was fantastic.
And now they're trying to get away with this.
It's unbelievable.
Can you see why from the outside when you look at that?
No, I cannot see this.
No.
Because they see it as black people as discrimination.
But it's not.
It's not discrimination.
It's not discrimination.
I tell you.
I love the Dutch.
Hello?
This is part of the EU homogenization process.
Oh, yes.
And there's big stuff going on in Scandinavia.
They're trying to introduce this anti-discrimination bill.
Yeah.
What's it called again?
I forget what it's called.
I don't remember.
It's like a big one.
Yeah, it's a whopper.
Yeah, and it'd be pretty much illegal to say anything.
Like, hey, you fag, you know, you're going to go to jail.
Jail.
I mean, that's really the way, I'm just paraphrasing it.
But that's kind of the way it feels, and that's the way I hear people talking about it.
And so, Trudeau, I've got a multi-clip, very short clip, multi-bit here, which Haley sent in, which is really appreciated, because he sat through all this.
And I mean, Trudeau is now the top dog, number one social justice warrior in the New World Order.
He's really all over it.
He's the number one guy.
Yeah, apparently there was something called the purge back in the 50s or the 60s, and they were trying to get gays out of sight in Canada.
Don't know this.
Yeah, you should look it up.
Look up the purge, gay purge, and as a part of the introduction of this bill, he's bringing back this history and apologizing.
Mr.
Speaker, today we acknowledge an often overlooked part of Canada's history.
Today, we finally talk about Canada's role in the systemic oppression, criminalization and violence against the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer and two-spirit communities.
Two-spirit!
Were they rousting the two-spirits?
Yeah, hey, they killed Tupac, too.
You know, it's like, two-spirits, gun.
And they forgot intersex, which is the New World Order term.
It's supposed to be LGBTI. We know this.
This is what the United Nations has determined.
Any deviation from that is racist.
Do intersex have to do with bestiality?
I hope so.
Did you look it up, The Purge?
I'm looking, yeah.
Apparently this is a good one.
Canada is now going to offer $85 million to victims of its gay purge.
Now tell us, give us the background on The Purge.
I'm sure there's a wiki page.
We can probably consult the book of knowledge.
The New York Times, so there won't be any good information in here, but let me start reading it.
The Canadian government paid up to $110 million Canadian dollars, or $85 million U.S. dollars, to compensate victims of the so-called gay...
Don't be laughing about their dollaretts.
That's not nice.
...gay purge.
Decades of government-authorized discrimination against gay Canadians.
The announcement on Tuesday followed a speech in the House by Trudeau, who apologized to the victims.
The government program, which lasted for more than 30 years and ended only in the 1990s, caused thousands to lose their jobs and sometimes face prosecution because of their sexual orientation.
The policy affected Canadians in the military, the public services, and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
Government also introduced legislation to expunge unjust convictions.
Wow.
So who are they going to give this money to?
To descendants of?
Or maybe these people are still around?
They must be pretty old.
I guess there's some still around because it just ended in the 1990s.
Wow.
All right, here's the timeline of what happened.
From the 1950s to the early 1990s, the government of Canada exercised its authority in a cruel and unjust manner, undertaking a campaign of oppression against members and suspected members.
The LGBTQ2 community.
The goal was to identify these workers throughout the public service, including the Foreign Service, the military and the RCMP, and persecute them.
You see, the thinking of the day was that all non-heterosexual Canadians would automatically be at increased risk of blackmail by our adversaries due to what was called character weakness.
This thinking was prejudiced and flawed.
Sadly, what resulted was nothing short of a witch hunt.
Very bad, Scandinavians.
Very bad.
Yeah.
So I just had to look it up.
Two-Spirit.
If you're Two-Spirit.
Is it T-U? T-W-O. Refers to a person who has both a masculine and feminine spirit.
Go figure.
And is used by some First Nations people.
Is that engines?
To describe their sexual gender and or spiritual identity.
That's about the fifth thing you said that would have gotten us fired.
I know.
I love it.
I'm enjoying my job so much.
If only I could get Norm Pattis to harass this podcaster.
You can cut my breasts.
Just pay me.
So there you go.
That seems like a...
Do they have a large indigenous First Nations people's community?
I've got to be careful.
I don't want to get fired.
Now you've got me all conscious.
Do they have a big two-spirit community in Canada?
I don't know.
Sounds like a scam.
All right.
So they were so into this, the Canadians, at the time, they had gaydar, a real gaydar.
The public service, the military, and the RCMP spied on their own people inside and outside of workplaces.
During this time, the federal government even dedicated funding to an absurd device known as the fruit machine, a failed technology that was supposed to measure homosexual attraction.
I mean, I will pay good money for one of these devices.
I want me a fruit machine.
By the way, at the end of this clip of the day, no doubt about it.
I'm going to take it right now.
Clip of the day.
Anything that talks about the fruit machine is for the day.
I mean, what is this box?
I need to see what this is.
This sounds fabulous.
The fruit machine.
Failed technology.
Oh, yeah.
And interesting that, you know, Google Images, or what was that AI deep learning project?
Oh, this guy's gay, this guy's gay.
We actually have that technology now.
Remember that?
Yeah.
So he's apologizing.
It is with shame and sorrow and deep regret for the things we have done that I stand here today and say we were wrong, we apologize, I am sorry, we are sorry.
We are sorry.
I mean, what was coming down on him that he had to go through such great lengths to apologize for this?
Did some pressure group say, we're really going to nail it to you?
Bunch of gay haters?
What was going on?
Well, he's gay.
Okay.
So, one thing for sure, they don't set it up the way politicians in the lower half of North America do.
Well, I think it's a pretty generous offer by the Canadians.
What?
To just throw away $110 million Canadian dollars to make up for the screw job.
Half the people probably committed suicide.
Who knows?
I don't know the story of this.
I never heard of this.
I hadn't heard of it either.
So here's the problem.
Maybe no one in the audience even heard of this.
Because, you know, when you're doing this kind of speech, there are what we call applause moments, right?
Right.
Yeah.
And you pause, and then sometimes people who don't have the right stage presence will say, well, that was an applause moment, because no one clapped.
Yeah.
So that's an applause moment.
Please clap.
Please clap.
Yes, Jeb Bush applause moment.
Thank you.
To those who wanted to serve but never got the chance because of who you are, you should have been permitted to serve your country.
You were stripped of that option.
We are sorry.
We were wrong.
Wow!
How about that?
The one gay guy in the back.
Let's hear that again.
You were stripped of that option.
We are sorry.
We were wrong.
The Curry-Devorak Consulting Group remains available for any politician who wants to have a successful media event.
Because he's got the money.
He's got a big bag of dough.
He's gay, as you said.
So they tossed out the gaydar, and he's apologizing.
You need a whoop!
They need something.
They need shills.
You know, there's nothing wrong...
For people who do...
Expensive public speaking and you really want to manipulate things, you have to have shills.
Yes.
You have about a four – well, you don't need that many.
You can usually do a ten.
But you have about ten or maybe more people in the audience that you brought in and they start clapping at certain key spots and one of them maybe go whoop, whoop, whoop.
Or something.
And they start all clapping.
Maybe they can jump to their feet if they're all in the front.
You can maybe set off a standing O. It's possible.
Yeah, or the wave.
But if you're just going to have one lone guy back there in the back, you know.
Yeah.
So wrong.
So wrong.
Mr.
Herbert.
Okay, I have a couple more just Aaron clips from this, although I don't know if any is funny.
You asked about intersex.
There are still real struggles facing these communities, including for those who are intersex, queer people of color, and others who suffer from intersectional discrimination.
Oh!
I want to have a t-shirt that says intersectional other.
Yeah, you need that.
Yeah.
Especially in Austin.
Tina and I were talking last night.
We'll get to this later in the show.
The homeless problem is growing with leaps and bounds here in downtown Austin.
Full employment.
Leaps and bounds.
And the things that the city is concerned with compared to the homeless people who are homeless...
It's off-kilter.
You can't just walk to the store without people begging.
And if it's not the damn students shilling for Save the Children, Planned Parenthood, etc., which they know nothing about because they're just hired to hold up an iPad, and the homeless, it's not even fun to walk around anymore.
No, you have to pay tolls.
In fact, it's almost impossible in some areas.
It's tolls.
You're exactly right.
Hey, you want to pass by this part of the sidewalk?
You've got to pay me.
You've got to pay the toll.
Troll?
Yeah.
Toll trolls.
There we go.
That's a good one.
Well, they used to have those guys in the Middle Ages.
They'd be standing in some little pathway where you had to go to get through to the other side.
You had to go through past this guy.
Isn't that what trolls did?
Didn't they sit under the bridge and you had to pay the troll?
Or feed the troll to cross the bridge, I thought.
Something like that.
Alright, what action will be taken by Mr.
Trudeau and his government?
Further, I am pleased to announce that over the course of the weekend, we reached an agreement in principle with those involved in the class action lawsuit for actions related to the purge.
The purge.
Never again will Canada's government be the source of so much pain for members of the LGBTQ2 communities.
Q2. Okay.
Well, thank you very much.
Now, I'm into numerology, and we always pay attention to numerology, certainly if there's a 3 in it.
33 is a good number.
But I don't know what's going on with this, but it was an interesting sequence, and maybe we can decode it.
...the kids who are listening at home and who fear rejection because of their sexual orientation or their gender identity and expression.
That to those who are nervous and scared, but also excited about what their future might hold, we are all worthy of love and deserving of respect.
And whether you discover your truth at 6, at 16, or at 60, who you are is valid.
Six, 16, or 60.
Yeah.
That's odd.
Have you ever heard that sequence?
Nope.
I mean, it'd be from kids from 9 to 92, as the song goes, Milton Bradley games, 3 to 300, you know, that kind of stuff.
Yeah.
But it was just like a whole bunch of sixes.
Yeah.
And that's always concerning.
What was the total number of sixes?
If you just took the sixes out, what would you have?
Six, six, six.
The beast.
Yes!
Scandinavia is the mark of the beast!
Wow.
What's up with that?
I think there's something here.
I think it's pretty self-evident.
Okay, I'm listening.
Trudeau is the Antichrist.
Nice.
That's right, we thought it was Obama.
That was just racist thinking.
It's the white Obama who's the antichrist.
What's wrong with us?
666, you just said it right there.
Boom.
Let's wrap it up.
Boom count one.
To the trailblazers who have lived and struggled, and to those who have fought so hard to get us to this place, Thank you for your courage.
Thank you for lending your voices.
I hope and I know that you look back on all you have done with pride.
I just had to do that for the ISO. Thank you for your courage.
Nice.
Exactly what we want.
Thank you for your courage.
Woo!
I know, we score.
The No Agenda Show scores.
Thank you for your courage.
Nice.
So...
Kind of wacky.
Just putting that all together, you know, the fruit machine, the 666.
What is he trying to say?
I don't know, but if I was a Canadian, I'd move out.
Move to the United States.
I'm homeless in Boston.
Yeah, right.
Please, you're welcome here.
Come on in.
Not a problem.
So if you heard...
I've got to change the topic.
If you heard that somebody was a graduate in international studies, lived in Los Angeles, a young woman, international studies, lived in Los Angeles, Toronto, interned in Argentina, is a member of the United Nations Entity for Gender Equality, Empowerment of Women, as an advocate.
Oh, Buzzkill Jr.'s wife.
No.
No.
No, she's into making cheese and chocolate.
Cheese!
Cheese, I tell you.
She's not a graduate of international studies.
One Young World, the annual summit in Dublin, big speaker there, kind of gets around.
One Young World Summit.
Is there any possibility that that would be a spook?
I would say, hmm, let me think.
Yes?
Is there a clip associated with this?
Yeah, there's a clip.
And it has a lot to do with...
That's a description of Meghan Markle.
Okay.
Who's now going to marry Prince Harry.
Ah, thank you.
Now I know where you're going.
Okay.
Now I'm looking at this as a joint venture between the CIA and MI6. This is big.
So let's listen to the two of them talk about their love for each other in this clip.
Meg and Harry.
Is this Meg and Harry top news?
Yep.
Okay.
Oh, sorry.
A few weeks ago, earlier this month, here at our cottage.
It's a standard, typical night for us.
It's a cozy night.
What were we doing?
Just roasting chicken and having...
Trying to roast chicken.
Trying to roast the chicken.
And it was just an amazing surprise.
It was so sweet and And natural and very romantic.
He got on one knee.
Yes!
As a matter of fact, I could barely let you finish proposing.
I said, can I say yes now?
She didn't even let me finish.
She said, can I say yes now?
And then there was hugs, and I had the ring in my finger.
I was like, can I give you the ring?
She goes, oh, yes, the ring!
So, no, it was a really nice moment.
It was just the two of us, and I think I managed to catch her by surprise as well.
Yes, we first met.
We were introduced, actually, by a mutual friend who we will...
We should protect her privacy.
Protect her privacy, yeah.
We don't feel too much of that.
But it was literally, it was through her, and then we met once and then twice, back to back, two dates in London last July, beginning of July.
And then it was, I think, about three, maybe four weeks later that I managed to persuade her to come and join me in Botswana.
As one does.
Another one.
And we camped out with each other under the stars.
Watch one.
For five days out there, which was absolutely fantastic.
So then we were really by ourselves, which was crucial to me to make sure that we had a chance to get to know each other.
Because I'm from the States, you don't grow up with the same understanding of the royal family.
And so while I now understand very clearly there's a global interest there, I didn't know much about him.
And so the only thing that I had asked her when she said she wanted to set us up was, I had one question.
I said, well, is he nice?
Because if he wasn't kind, it just didn't...
It didn't seem like it would make sense and so we went and had that for a drink and then I think very quickly into that we said, what are we doing tomorrow?
We should meet again.
What are we doing tomorrow?
Let's meet again.
And then it was like, right, diaries.
We need to get the diaries out and find out how we're going to make this work because I was off to Africa for a month.
She was working and we just said, right, where's the gap?
And the gap happened to be in the perfect place.
Spot the spook.
Spot the spook.
Everybody wants to spot the spook.
Damn, John, I think you're on to something.
Maybe.
There's a couple of things I'll say because I've been following these two.
And it's funny that it's covered better here than it is over there.
Yeah.
You mean the spook angle or just in general?
No, the spook angle is only covered on the No Agenda show.
Ah, okay.
Just checking to make sure we're unique.
But the total news content seems to be less over there.
Although over there, they're more critical of her because she's half black.
And...
And so they're racist about it.
Even though, when you watch the two of them, and her in particular, they really are an attractive couple, and she's gorgeous.
She is a very good-looking woman.
And he's a great-looking guy.
So, I mean, this is kind of the mutual seduction club.
They leave out the name of the person that put them together for some reason, and they may go, oh, it's going to protect your privacy, really.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So there's something very fishy about the whole thing.
And I like that, because that's clearly the connector, the handler, you know, whatever.
Yeah, something like that.
So there's a handler involved in putting the two of them together for...
I don't know what the point of the whole thing is.
Maybe they actually...
A lot of people are very racist about this, but other people are looking at it from a positive side, which is that the royal family blood is inbred too much.
Ah, but that's what they said about Diana.
You know, we need to get some fresh blood in there, and that didn't turn out well for everybody.
Well, they got some fresh blood this time that's...
Got it.
It's a little more, as they put it in some references, is very exotic.
Yeah.
And I think it's going to be a cute couple.
It'll be very interesting to see how they compete with the other cute couple.
Well, good.
I mean, we need something to gossip about.
And you need something to follow.
The Royals.
And we need a jingle now.
Then we can make it complete.
The Royals.
Really?
The Royals.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Onward to less spooky stuff.
Did you get the...
What do you think about...
Play my Pocahontas clip, which came at the end.
They're talking about all the stories about sexual misconduct.
This is PBS. They have to bring Trump into it again with a discussion with Elizabeth Warren and I guess they were talking about the Consumer Protection Agency.
Let's just say...
That that was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
When Trump turned to the Navajo code talkers, and I know what he's trying to say, but he's a moron.
He can't speak.
The man can't communicate.
What he's trying to say is, you guys are great.
Isn't it horrible that there's this woman who's impersonating you?
Which, of course, is completely inappropriate at the time.
Yeah.
Completely inappropriate.
But I just, I can't help but laugh.
I'm like, holy crap.
Now, I'm sure a lot of people think I'm an a-hole for laughing about it and I don't care about the country.
But I just, it's, geez, there's plenty of humor.
Well, here's the part that gets me.
Play the clip and then I'll discuss it.
I said, Senator, earlier today, President Trump at a ceremony honoring Navajo Code Talkers, again derisively referred to you as Pocahontas.
Do you have any response to the president's comments?
You know, this was supposed to be a ceremony honoring Native Americans who had done incredible work on behalf of the United States that had saved countless lives, both of people in the United States and people, our allies, around the world.
This was a moment to honor them, to honor their heroism, and Donald Trump just couldn't make it through without adding a racist slur to the event.
You know, I know he thinks that somehow doing that is going to shut me up, but it hadn't worked in the past, and it's sure not going to work in the future.
Yeah, it's pretty much the same she said on every single interview.
He didn't work in the past, he didn't work in the future.
But racial slur?
Are we accepting that concept?
No, I'm not.
Isn't Pocahontas a fictional character?
No, I think it's a real person.
And she became, I believe, if I'm not mistaken, she actually moved to England, changed her name to Rebecca.
I believe.
I could be wrong.
I heard that everywhere, and I didn't quite understand either.
Racial slur.
Yeah, racial slur.
It's a name!
Yeah.
Like I started calling you Ben.
Dude, that's racial slur.
Yeah.
It's like a random racial slur.
Yeah.
No, I'm not accepting that.
But just the whole...
Yeah, Trump, he has...
On one hand, please stop doing that.
On the other hand, I love it!
He can't stop doing it.
He's never going to stop doing it.
Just the way it goes.
He can't stop it.
Well, there is something that I believe to be totally bogus.
And I think it was a setup, and Trump's in on it, and it stinks, and I don't like it.
So we have this missile launch.
Now, you know, it's very odd, comes out of nowhere, but more importantly...
Everybody has details, MSNBC in particular, but everybody has details, you know, oh, when it could go up higher, this could land right in the middle of Japan.
Yes, I have a pretty complete report we should play, then you can finish this because you're right.
Okay.
This is from PBS, which I think is fairly objective.
It doesn't get carried away.
This is the DRK new missile launch.
Now, North Korea tests a new missile, rattling nerves in Asia and here in Washington.
William Brangham has the story.
The North Korean news anchor hailed the latest launch, delivering a statement from the nation's leader on state TV. Kim Jong-un declared with pride that now we have finally realized the great historic cause of completing the state nuclear force, the cause of building rocket power.
The broadcast showed an image of Kim signing the order to launch.
The new missile, dubbed the Hwasong-15, flew farther than any North Korean rocket had before.
It soared to an altitude of nearly 2,800 miles, then dove into the Sea of Japan, within what's known as Japan's exclusive economic zone.
That means, if shot on a flatter trajectory, the missile could have flown some 8,000 miles, reaching Washington, D.C. It remains unclear if the North Koreans have figured out how to either fit a nuclear warhead onto the missile or created one that could survive re-entry into Earth's atmosphere.
But on the streets of the capital Pyongyang, North Koreans played their dutiful part, cheering the announcement.
The missile launch has brought us another victory.
Our success has once more cracked down on the US, which is unable to see its coming death.
South Korea responded with its own drill, firing off missiles into the sea.
And President Moon Jae-in spoke with President Trump by phone.
His spokesman said he'd warned the situation could get out of control.
President Moon stressed that we should prevent a situation in which North Korea misjudges the current situation and threatens us with nuclear weapons or a situation in which the U.S. takes into consideration preemptive strikes.
Mr.
Trump also spoke by phone with Chinese President Xi Jinping.
Afterward, Mr.
Trump tweeted that new sanctions on the North would be forthcoming.
The Chinese foreign ministry said Xi is gravely concerned.
This afternoon, the U.N. Security Council held another emergency meeting on the North's continued defiance of U.N. resolutions.
All right.
So that is a good clip, and it is very impartial, but they got all the same information from the Defense Department as everybody else got.
Hold on.
Whenever we're talking about the missile, we have to, from time to time, just light one up.
Yeah, fire it off.
In a natural break, where I'm just like, you know, so we're talking about this missile that North Korea has.
I mean, that's how you do it.
Yeah.
Now, we know from firsthand information from my uncle that, you know, what North Korea is really about.
He's been to North Korea eight times in the past 15 years.
He was ambassador to South Korea.
He believes Dennis Rodman knows more about Kim Jong-un and North Korea than anyone in the entire State Department or the White House.
And the bottom line is they just want to be recognized as a real country.
They don't want armistice.
They just want to be their own country, do their own thing.
And that is not being done for the military-industrial complex.
It is every single time they light something up.
It's a sales job to someone.
And in addition, we want to maintain our military force in the region because China.
It's that simple.
Trump is in on this, this time, and I will continue to condemn him for this bull crap.
It's disappointing.
Everybody was doing this.
Every president has used little North Korea to get military funding, sales jobs, and okay, maybe he's looking at it from a macro perspective and saying...
You know, this is good for the economy, so I'll use the same damn trick.
And because we know he can't speak in public, certainly not off the cuff, he gives it all away in his response here.
Well, as you said, Katie, we have confirmation now that this was a North Korean...
Ah, sorry.
Fucking wrong clip.
Here we go.
Thank you very much.
As you probably have heard, and some of you have reported, a missile was launched a little while ago from North Korea.
I will only tell you that we will take care of it.
We have General Mattis in the room with us, and we've had a long discussion on it.
It is a situation that we will handle.
With that being said, Chuck Schumer and...
There's the pivot.
Right away, there's the pivot.
He can't do it any other way.
He has to immediately tie it into the entire reason for this bullcrap.
Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi did not show up for our meeting today.
I'm not really that surprised.
We have a lot of differences.
They're weak on crime.
They're weak on illegal immigration.
They want the illegal folks to come pouring into our border and a lot of problems are being caused, although we've stopped it to a large extent, as much as you can without the wall, which we're going to get.
This, by the way, this is him, again, not sticking to the topic.
He's off on his wall and all this bull crap.
Maybe he's a shock caller.
Okay, let me get back to the topic here for a second.
Oh yeah, I remember.
A sales job.
They...
Before this meeting and before this missile launch, they've been weak on military in terms of spending.
They're very hard to get from military.
They want it for a lot of other things, but the military is always secondary to them.
The military, to me, is number one.
We won't be here without our powerful military, and we're building it up stronger, bigger, better than ever before, and General Mattis can testify to that.
So they decided not to show up.
They've been all talk.
That's another thing.
When someone's doing a sales job, and Bloom used to do this to me all the time.
You know, we got Adam Curry here, and I'm going to keep talking.
And Adam can attest to that, and I'm going to keep talking.
Don't let me say anything.
And Mattis was the Adam in this one.
He's just sitting there, okay, that's right.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
This is a sales job.
He's selling the American public and the world more money for the military, which the Democrats are blocking.
And we're building it up stronger, bigger, better than ever before, and General Mattis can testify to that.
So they decided...
Did he say, attestify?
Back it.
I think he did.
And General Mattis can attestify to that.
Nice.
They said attestify.
Attestify!
He should be like...
In the church, everybody.
Yes.
Brothers and sisters, I testify!
What an idiot.
Wait, wait.
He doubles down to the very end.
We're almost done.
So they decided not to show up.
They've been all talk and they've been no action.
And now it's even worse.
Now it's not even talk.
So they're not showing up for the meeting.
I will say this.
In light of the missile launch, probably they'll be here fairly quickly or at least discussions will start taking place fairly quickly.
Yeah.
Set up.
And he gave it all away, and it's disappointing.
Well, I think Kelly must have the time of his life trying to control this character.
I don't think he can control him at all.
Well, it doesn't look like it.
In fact, that's why we came up with the next topic, at least the one I want to head toward, which is retweetgate.
Ha ha ha!
Yes.
Yeah, I did a little research for you.
President Trump today retweeted anti-Muslim videos posted by the leader of a far-right extremist party in Britain.
The retweets were widely condemned, even by the president's political allies, British Prime Minister Theresa May and television host Piers Morgan, who won Mr.
Trump's Celebrity Apprentice.
Mark Phillips reports from London.
They've got our Christian process.
She's an admitted agitator from the far-right anti-immigrant fringe of British politics who's already been convicted of religious hate crimes.
And provoking Muslims where they live is what she does.
And now Donald Trump has done Jada Franson a huge favor.
Was this a good day for you?
Very good day indeed.
Earlier this morning, the president retweeted three old, largely discredited videos that Franson had dug up.
One, her Britain First Party claims, shows extremists throwing somebody off her roof.
It turned out to be a fight between rival political factions in Egypt and a crime for which the perpetrators were sentenced to death.
Another showed a jihadist fighter destroying a Christian statue.
And a third claimed to show an Islamic immigrant in the Netherlands attacking a Dutch boy on crutches.
It turns out both the attacker and victim were born and bred in Holland.
The content of the videos is suspect, but the message is clear.
I think the issue here that we need to home in on is that Islam has threatened the world for far too long.
And that, said White House spokesperson Sarah Huckabee Sanders, is why the president did what he did.
Whether it's a real video, the threat is real, and that is what the president is talking about.
Now, a couple of things.
I believe that this story is designed to, and there's some hints about it, but CBS in particular, CIA, I don't think that they really are a pro-Muslim organization by any means.
And I think this report was actually a white supremacist report promoting it.
If this story was a non-story, and if these guys, what they've done is they've really given a lot of attention.
I'm talking about this network, CBS. They've given a lot of attention to this woman in England who had something like 40,000 followers, I think, and now she's got over a million.
Yeah.
And they've given a lot of attention to this and they and everybody's done the same thing, but they've always couched it.
Oh, my God, this is so terrible.
And here's what happened.
And then they show you this guy throwing a guy off the roof and all the, you know, some of this stuff, everything short of the head chopping, which they used to promote all the time, too.
But that has been kind of disappeared.
So they need some new head chopping stuff to get everybody to hate the Muslims.
Now, it gets even worse when you take a look at it.
See, that clip, I think, was the retweet controversy.
Jews hate Muslims on CBS. ABC has...
This is Retweetgate ABC. A vote is coming very soon, traveling to St.
Louis today.
But overshadowing his push, a series of tweets today, inflammatory videos, one proven false, and the White House saying whether the videos are real or not, it doesn't matter.
ABC's chief White House correspondent, Jonathan Karl.
The president today avoided questions about the extremist videos he retweeted, videos that have provoked an international backlash.
The three videos were originally posted by a tiny, anti-Islam, ultra-nationalist party called Britain First, a group known for hate-filled incitement.
They purport to show Muslims engaged in violent acts.
In a blunt statement, the office of British Prime Minister Theresa May, perhaps America's closest ally, condemned the president for his tweets, saying the group Britain First seeks to divide communities through their use of hateful narratives which peddle lies and stoke tensions, It is wrong for the president to have done this.
But White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders defended the tweets.
It's important to talk about national security and national security threats.
The White House insists this is about strong borders.
Anyway, so now here's what gives me the idea that these are promotional, to promote this This group and to promote the anti-Muslim hate.
And I say that because the one element of these tweets, because they're questionable.
One of them was the guy being thrown off a roof was two military groups or militant groups fighting each other and some guy got thrown off the roof.
They all got thrown in jail.
That was in Egypt.
The smashing of the Virgin Mary is like, so they do that all the time.
And by the way, those are...
Often bogus statues.
Yes, and that didn't look like a real statue either.
It was made of plaster of Paris.
Did it have rebar inside?
No, no.
It was cheesy.
And then the other one, which they left out the point, it was probably a Muslim kid beating up somebody, but it's beside the point that that kid was arrested.
But here's what these are.
They amount to what?
Specific thing Trump's always bitching about, and none of these networks turned this around, because they could have, but they didn't.
None of them turned it around and said, hey, fake news.
Right.
This is fake news, Trump.
No, I heard some on MSNBC saying fake news.
Well, they're the only ones, because I never heard it on the big networks.
I think that this is a promotion, and...
And now, and then the worst part about it was we had this, the retweet clip.
This one's going to be the Jew and the Muslim on PBS. We have a situation on PBS, again, the news hour, doing what I bitch about constantly, is they're going to bitch about these retweets.
It's retweets.
How is this even news?
Oh, the president retweeted some bogus story.
Who hasn't done that?
Anyway.
Oops.
Yeah, go play, because here's what we're dealing with, which is always on PBS NewsHour.
Two guys that bring Kempler to talk about it.
Both of them on the same side of the argument.
President Trump today retweeted anti-Muslim videos posted by the leader...
What?
It's a wrong clip.
This is retweetgate, Jew and the Muslim.
It says Muslim.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, retweetgate.
That was the CBS one.
Which you already played, actually.
Okay, got it.
Sorry, here we go.
Jonathan Greenblatt, what was your reaction when you saw the president's retweets?
Well, I think all of us were fairly stunned to see the retweets.
The fact of the matter is extremists already feel emboldened because the president has repeatedly equivocated in the unequivocal, whether it's after Charlottesville or any number of other incidents.
I equivocated the unequivocal just the other night.
Now, which clip was that?
It's not done yet.
No, I know, but was that retweetgate Jew and the Muslim?
Yeah, Muslim.
Or retweetgate PBS discussion?
No, retweetgate Jew and the Muslim on PBS. Muslim, yes.
Play the retweetgate PBS discussion.
That's the one where it brings this point up.
Okay.
What he has done and said, not only in his own country, but now, you know, getting involved in the debate here, he's normalizing hatred.
And in a statement, a spokesman for British Prime Minister Theresa May said, it is wrong for the president to have done this.
But White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders defended the retweets as she acknowledged they may be misleading.
Whether it's a real video, the threat is real, and that is what the president is talking about.
Sanders also said Prime Minister May and other world leaders, quote, know that these are real threats.
For more, I'm joined now by Rizwan Jaka.
He runs interfaith and government relations for the all-Dulles Area Muslim Society, or ADAM Center, the second largest mosque in the United States.
It's located in Virginia.
Yeah.
of the Anti-Defamation League, a civil rights group.
He served on the staff of the Obama White House.
And we welcome both of you.
Now, the point is, we have two guys that are going to go...
Why don't there has to be somebody that can rationalize or at least take the president's side in this debate and say, well, he does a lot of stupid retweet or he does this or he does that.
Or it makes sense.
You know, he saw these things.
He's just a guy who is like anybody else on Twitter.
I mean, there's nobody ever given the opportunity.
It's probably worse.
I think no one wants the job.
Like, I don't want to go defend that crap.
Sarah Huckabee already has to do it.
I will...
I will argue against that, because there are so many people that would do anything to get on television.
Yes, this is correct.
Or there's plenty of guys on the list that the producers have, and they call them, can you go and talk about this, about that, from this perspective?
They have 100 people that would, at least a few of them would say, yeah, sure, I can do that.
You could even get a Muslim to talk about it.
I can see.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yeah, I agree.
So they don't do that.
So it's propaganda broadcast system.
Exactly.
PBS, the propaganda broadcast system.
This has gotten much, much worse over the last few years since Eiffel died.
Yeah.
And I get irked by it.
I don't like to see that.
There's no debate here.
You get two guys taking the same exact side of an argument, and it's just piling on.
This is not journalism.
You know, I hear Matt Lauer's available.
Maybe he could...
He could fill in and do the pro-Trump side.
I made my point.
Yes.
Well, meanwhile, there was actual news regarding immigrants in the Eurozones.
And that would have been tweetable.
Well, this attack took place in the small Western German town of Altena.
It's a town that's taken in more refugees than were asked of it from central government here in Berlin.
Its mayor, Andreas Holstein, who was the target of this attack, has spoken out publicly in the past about the need for German towns and for his town in particular to do more for refugees.
Well, he was at a food stall in the town when a man came up behind him and attacked him.
Thankfully, he was okay enough to be able to give this interview afterwards.
When he approached me, he looked aggressive.
He asked me whether I was the mayor, and I said yes.
Then he pulled out a knife, saying, you let me starve, but you let 200 refugees into our city.
I really feared for my life.
I was scared that I hadn't just been wounded, that I might die, but then I was rescued.
Certainly quite understated from the mayor just there, but when we listened to first responders who were on the scene, we realized this could have been much worse.
Judging by what he said, he was a German citizen who objected to our mayor's migrant policies.
He asked, are you the mayor?
To which the mayor replied, yes.
And then he asked, how can you feed the refugees here while we are starving?
So he can't be a refugee.
He must be a German citizen.
Eyewitnesses told German media that the man appeared to be intoxicated and that he was shouting about Andreas Holstein's policies on refugees.
Now, Chancellor Angela Merkel has also issued a statement on this.
Mr Holstein is from her own party.
She said that she was horrified by this attack and relieved that he was back at home recuperating with his family.
Big H Deutschland, here is the half...
So, that's a real story to me.
The people of Germany are so sick of it now, they're stabbing their mayors.
That's a story.
Yes, I'd say stabbing the mayors.
You know, we're so sick of these policies, you know, this should get everybody paused in the Death Star there in Brussels.
And just to stay on the Deutschland topic, Merkel herself is in some trouble.
But at the end of the day...
Oh, I love this woman.
So we already made fun of the Dutch woman.
Here's the German woman who kicks it off with an end of the day and just a lovely accent.
But at the end of the day, it looks like the SPD will always be the loser because even if by this situation a new election is triggered, they will be hammered in the polls because they will be seen as the ones who didn't want to.
They will be hammered in the polls.
They will be hammered in the polls even if they would have the election.
They will be hammered in the polls because they will be seen as the ones who didn't want to take responsibility.
Which is interesting again because Angela Merkel, she could kind of take a step back again and is now watching everybody collapsing around her.
So the CSU in Bavaria is in big trouble.
The FDP is in trouble because they left the coalition talks and the SPD is in terrible trouble.
But be careful about this because the voices in the CDU saying we need to have a change of leadership are growing with the day.
Mm, Merkel in murky water.
You've been hearing this for five years.
Yeah, well.
That she's going to get booted out.
She never gets booted out.
But now they're stabbing mayors, so...
Yeah, well, the stabbing mayors thing is distressing.
If you're a mayor, it is.
Yeah.
Okay, moving into our break, I have a correction from Show X, which we spoke about earlier.
Yeah.
We made a mistake.
I think we made several.
But the origins of Double Nickels on the Dime was particularly irksome to, and now I've forgotten who it was.
This will be even more irksome.
No, I'm going to get it here.
Dave Pugh.
Dave Pugh.
Dave Pugh Pugh.
What did we say?
Well, I said, when we said, what is the origin, what is the genesis of the Double Nickels on the Dime donation, I said that thing came from Sergeant Fred.
Oh.
Oh, I didn't know who it came from.
I knew it came from somebody, and so I assume that when you said that, you were talking from a point of knowledge.
And there you go.
I assumed wrong.
Yes, you assumed wrong.
This is No Agenda Show 179.
This is March 4th, 2010.
And notice, for some reason, I decided to add echo to my voice.
I don't know why.
Tom Blushy, 5510, who has another hidden cabin we can hide in.
You know, it doesn't have internet because we're going to need that.
And he says it's, but 5510 is actually double nickels on the dime.
Hell yeah!
I thought that was great.
There you go.
Double nickels on the dime.
Okay.
And upon, let's see, I received a letter in the mail, and did you get a letter from Richard and Delia Moffat from Milwaukee with a check?
We already talked about this on the show, I think, a couple of times.
I don't know.
Oh, the Moffitt check.
Yeah, 1111?
Yeah.
Okay, well, I received it.
I just want to read the note.
Okay.
So from Richard Moffitt, Dear Adam, congratulations to you and John on 10 years of podcasting.
The enclosed money is for you to purchase from Infowars, Brain Force, and any other products that will help you to last another 10 years.
Okay, let me explain.
Now I remember.
Okay.
Moffitt sent me a letter with two envelopes in it.
One of them, he says, send to Adam.
That's when I asked you the last time about your address.
I put it on there.
Then I slipped it onto the cabinet where I put all my outbox stuff.
And it was there for about two weeks.
And then I grabbed, oh man, I gotta mail this.
So I grabbed it and mailed it like a couple days before I left.
And so you finally got it.
And I wanted to know what was in it, because it looks like he sent us each a check for $111.11.
Oh, yeah, I can see.
I didn't know that for sure.
I put mine into the system, so...
Okay, now I see the evidence, because I see it's his handwriting with his return address and Adam Curry, and then your handwriting, I guess, with my address under it.
Okay, got it.
Yes, that would be right.
Nice, okay.
Well, hey, the system works.
Who needs email?
You don't need your stankin' email.
I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
I have two errors that I need to read.
Yeah?
Um...
Apologies.
This is from Jared Zeifman.
Apologize for disturbing while away on travel.
I very much appreciate you getting my name right in the second donor segment, but unfortunately my note attached to the PayPal donation either didn't come through or wasn't read.
It was actually for both my birthday, which is today, the 21st, and for my nighting.
I was hoping that can be corrected next episode, and I would like to be known as...
You get your pen out.
Let me whip it out.
Whip it out.
Whip it out, Matt.
Hey, hey, hey.
So he's going to be knighted, yes.
Sir...
Sir...
Bram of the Upper Scandinavia.
Sir Bram?
Sir Bram.
B-R-A-M of Upper Scandinavia.
And we might as well call him out for his birthday on the 21st.
Belated on the 21st.
This is Jaron Zeifman.
Okay, hold on.
Jaron?
Jared.
Jared.
Jared Zeifman?
Subway.
The subway guy is Jared.
Yeah, hold on.
Nice.
Hold on.
How do I spell Zeifman?
Z-A-I-F Zeifman, M-A-N. Okay.
And the 21st.
Okay, good.
Got it.
One other one.
We have two today.
Two and only two.
Knighting error alert!
Uh-oh.
This is from Aaron Yoho.
Aaron, Y-O-H-O. I should have been knighted, Sir Aaron Yoho, Knight Esquire of the Noble Phallus.
Appropriate for this particular show.
Seeing as our law firm, shayoholaw.com is in Kingwood, West Virginia.
I don't see the connection, but okay.
Also, it seems a non-sequitur to me.
Also, I requested karma, but didn't get it.
Also requested, pepperoni rolls and pale ales.
It's a fine dinner after a breakfast of buckwheat cakes and black label.
Pepperoni rolls and?
Pale ales.
Pale ales, yeah.
I would finally like to add harlots and haldol to the offerings in honor of Sir HMFIC. Or buddy.
Harlots and Haldol.
Yeah.
Harlots.
Harlots and Haldol.
Yeah.
Shea and Yoho remind you, don't talk to the police.
Yes.
Ever.
Yeah.
So he'll be Sir Aaron Yoho, Knight Esquire of what?
The noble phallus.
Phallus?
As in dick.
Phallus.
Nice.
Yeah, phallus.
B-H-A-L-L-U-S. Make sure you get the spelling right, otherwise you get another note.
Yeah, another correction.
But, you know what?
I know how to spell phallus.
It's in my DNA. Okay.
Does he need any karma?
I'll throw out a karma.
Give these guys a comma.
Give these guys a comma.
Okay, well, I'm taking back just one third one that I... Sorry.
Sorry.
This is from Stephen Powers.
My name is Stephen Powers.
I am listed as an executive producer on the 10th anniversary show, but wasn't knighted.
With my $4 subscription chip-ins and the double offer, I should have made knighthood that episode.
If things check out, please knight me as Sir Fiverr of the Warren.
So, add him and we're done.
Okay.
So, did he even alert us to his knighthood or he just thought it would be automatic?
I have no idea.
I'm not going to go back to find out.
Oh, no, it's okay.
I was just curious if you knew.
All right, good.
Well, I shall take care of that, sir.
Looking forward to...
So we have four people on the list.
No, three.
Yeah, we got Stephen Powers, Sir Fiverr of the Warren, we got Jared Zeifman, and he'll be Sir Bram of Upper Canada, and Aaron Yoho.
Okay, good.
All right.
Meeting adjourned.
Yes, very good.
Hopefully that will come down to zero errors in the future.
But again, if you have a problem with what we did, write error in caps in the subject line and send a note in to me or any of the addresses that you see on the No Agenda show mailings on the emails.
Yes, which means they all send it to me.
That's exactly how it works.
Okay, good.
All right, so here's a few people to thank.
William Cotter.
I'm sorry, let's start with Sir Zachary, Baronet of the Bluff City.
Cordova, Tennessee.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
We have to do a meet-up in Tennessee.
Everybody lives in Tennessee.
Okay.
William Cotter, New Brighton, Minnesota Nuts.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
And by the way, Sir Zachary's 12345, Sir Cotter's 12345, and Donald Borosky of Spokane, Washington, 12345, and he sends an official note in from United Federation of Planet Starfleet Command letterhead.
Yep.
I don't know.
The bills don't stop even if the 10th anniversary party is over.
So here's a little something.
One, two, three, four, five.
To put beans on the plate for a few days.
Sir Donald of the fire bottles.
Fire bottles equal vacuum tubes.
I collect old radios and vintage audio equipment.
Did you know that?
We didn't know that about him.
Nope.
Now we know.
I have a box of old tubes.
Onward.
Gerald Harrell, $100.
Thanks.
Kyle Blank, Houston, Texas, $100.
Matthew, or I'm sorry, Andrew Tong in London.
Delighted to have met JCD and the family in London.
Hi, Crackpot and Buzzkill.
We're going to do another, we have to do more meetups around the world.
All right, well, yes.
In exotic locales.
Yeah.
Sir Michael Shoemaker, Baron of Lake County, California, 99.99.
I'm not overboard, I just seriously am busy.
I'm a dude named Ben.
Sir Nick in Fremont, 8008, boob.
Sir Herb Lamb, Sugar Hill, Georgia, 8008.
Sir Brian Kaufman in Scottsdale, Arizona, 75-75.
Adam Liet, light, light.
Liet, maybe?
Liet, maybe.
Oh, Juliet without Liet.
Liet, Liet.
Actually, I nailed it!
N-8-Y-D, 73-73s.
Anonymous 73-73s.
Yeah, 73.
Kilo 5.
Alpha Charlie Charlie.
Baron Mark Tanner, 6.66.66.
Sir Johnny of the Swamp Knights, 66.60.
That's the Devil's Dimes.
The Devil's Dimes, 66.60.
Michael Asfalk, 55.33.
James Strack in Miamisburg, Ohio, 55.10.
Devil Nichols on the Dime explained earlier.
Ronald Sedaro, 55-10.
Christopher Wallace, 55 even.
Aaron Lambert, 54-33.
Andrew Prowse, 51-51.
Chris Sundberg in Mercer Island, Washington, 51.
We're getting closer.
Tyler Nonek.
Mount Vernon, Washington, 50-50.
Scott Nelson in Melbourne, Florida, 50-01.
And the following people are all $50 donors.
Name if a location is possible.
We'll give it to you, but I don't have it necessarily.
Starting with Jose Ferreira in Newbury, Berkshire, UK. Brandon, he wanted to use that to meet up.
Brandon Mink in Tempe, Arizona.
Niels Bonnaker in Hamburg, Deutschland.
Louis Pastor.
Miami, Florida.
Alexa Delgado in Aptos, California.
Eric Elaine in Murfreesboro, Tennessee.
Again.
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I've been wanting to donate so bad to tell you guys you have no idea what plasticizers are for.
We talked about plasticizers.
They are for making plastic polymers softer, more ductile, and more plastic-y.
When people add phthalates to traffic cones, it's not to make them shiny, you fools.
It's to make sure they don't break your bumper when you run over them.
The amount of phthalates in mac and cheese is so small, there's literally no reason to think there's any reason it might harm any living being.
Why are they in the mac and cheese?
I have no idea.
Maybe to make him shiny.
Because the cheese that did in the mac and cheese is that funny shiny cheese is weird.
I didn't know about it.
By the way, I did not know this.
I should.
But I don't think I ever said phthalates were used for what was she saying?
No, I think I said it.
We were talking about traffic cones, and I said, oh, maybe it makes them shiny.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
I never said that.
So, no, John, it does not make cheese look shiny, especially if the concentration is in the realm of PPB, whatever.
The PubMed study linked and showed 948 had rats drinking phthalates in the realm of 5 to 10 parts per million for water, constantly, every day, compared to 105 parts per billion...
At the highest in Kraft cheese powder.
Nobody eating this will be significantly or even slightly harmed by eating boxed mac and cheese.
I beg to differ.
That shit will kill you, phthalates or not.
What are you talking about?
Kraft mac and cheese is not good for the soul.
That's, you know, at the rate we're going, that'll be our only commercial.
Along with me doing the boob thing.
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And now he's a knight.
Yeah.
Well, it takes a while, but you get there.
Keeps from going overboard.
But we kept our end of the bargain.
We kept going until he had his knighthood.
Yeah, we did.
I think that's something to be said for that.
Not much?
Well, as you know, I made the prediction that academics will be the next target or one of the next targets.
Yes!
So we got a pervert, I guess.
The pervert professor.
I think they're experimenting because I didn't see this on the nightly news, but I may have just missed it because I was on vacation.
But it did play on the CBS Morning News, and while Charlie Rose was still on the show and sitting there, I thought they ran this story.
It's very funny.
The University of Rochester is responding to claims it mishandled sexual harassment allegations against one of its star professors.
A complaint filed with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission calls Florian Yeager a manipulative sexual predator.
It also accuses university officials of retaliating against faculty who complained about his conduct.
Anna Werner is at the University of Upstate New York with the latest on this story.
Anna, good morning.
Good morning.
Well, University of Rochester officials say that they thoroughly investigated the allegations against their Department of Brain and Cognitive Sciences, Professor Florian Yeager, and found that he did not violate any of their policies.
But the professors and students who have allegations against him claim that investigation was shoddy.
They've now filed an EEOC complaint, and some students are taking actions of their own.
The University of Rochester students say they've lost confidence in school administrators, accusing them of failing the alleged victims.
Senior Lindsay Roble has been on a hunger strike since midnight Thursday.
She vows not to eat until Florian Yeager is fired.
I'm prepared to do this until I'm hospitalized.
I hope that it doesn't come to that point.
The 111-page EEOC complaint filed in August alleges Yeager hosted hot tub parties, used illegal drugs with students and sent one student unwanted pictures of his genitals.
It says at least 11 female students actively avoided working with Yeager because of his constant sexual innuendos, pressure to sleep with students and other unprofessional behavior.
This has been around, though.
This story's been out for a week, a couple weeks, I think.
Yeah.
No one's really picking it up.
Why is that?
I'm wondering myself.
I mean, not only that, but even the school defends this guy.
I have no idea.
And the whole thing about shooting pictures of your genitals and sending them around, look at this!
It's a form of flashing that I think is new.
I mean, this is Anthony Weiner's problem.
Yeah, it's a big problem.
Well, it goes back to, it's a mad, mad world.
We've been over-sexualized.
We've been made crazy, yet you can't even think about it.
Don't say anything.
We are just simple souls.
Anyway, I've found the whole thing to be, that guy's weird.
A lot of Bitcoin craziness going on right now.
Yeah, it went up and it went down.
Didn't go down much, but did go down.
Well, it had a 20% swing, which I can guarantee you, this is like a whip.
A bull whip.
And the longer the whip gets, the crazier the swing at the end is.
And you're going to see the more people jumping in and jumping on this obvious scam...
Man, they're allowing margin trading.
Just think about that for a second.
They're allowing people to borrow.
Who's they?
Oh, the big guys are getting in.
Like J.P. Morgan, all these guys are getting in on this.
Oh, then you know you're going to get ripped off if they get in.
Well, they're getting in.
Yeah, then they sucker the public to take over their positions, and the next thing you know, the thing crashes.
This is the oldest story in the book.
I've seen it all my life.
Mm-hmm.
But the idea that you're trading on margin, which means you're basically borrowing something that nobody has.
So it's an infinite supply.
Because you can say, oh, I'm going to borrow Bitcoin, and then the lender can, you know, it's not going to be that easy to necessarily go, especially with the underlying fluctuation, to go and grab that.
At the price that you want it, at the time the margin is made.
That's the way you would short.
That's the only way, yes.
But going on a margin just means you're borrowing money.
Well, just really pretty simple.
There is one Dutch family who I think did a smart thing.
I don't know if they need to stop pretty soon, but I thought this was kind of cute.
This family is living on a campsite in the Netherlands because they're big believers in Bitcoin.
Here's what's going on.
Diddy, his wife, three kids, and her cat sold literally everything they owned.
Their house, bikes, furniture, cars, clothes, toys, even their shoes.
They traded it all in for Bitcoin, and now they're waiting for the cryptocurrency to really take off.
It's only been a few months, but they say they don't regret a thing.
Ah, shit, you can barely hear it.
You get the idea, though.
They sold all their possessions, everything, three daughters, beautiful kids, live in a campground now, and they trade it all in for Bitcoin, and they're waiting for the price to be high enough to sell.
Now, this is all fine and dandy, and I know people are like, I agree with the Bitcoin hate, but I want to give you a living example of what is wrong with Bitcoin, what is wrong with, really, with the financial news media.
CNBC is complicit in this scam to either that or they're so stupid, and it may be the latter.
So the way...
You buy and sell Bitcoiners through an exchange.
And, you know, there's a lot of scams going on with that Bitfinex, as an example.
They ran out of money to pay people who were cashing in their Bitcoins for dollars and said, well, you know, because we have this glitch, we're going to give you tethers.
So they launched a new coin.
And now, of course, now it's called Tethergate.
And they would give people, it's like an IOU, a tether.
But then, you know, at the same time they launched the currency, that currency gets some magical value.
And it's just, the whole thing is scammy.
And now, U.S. customers can no longer trade through their system, through their exchange.
Because they don't adhere to any of the SEC rules.
So really what's left is Coinbase.
And Coinbase is the big one.
It's a legit company.
I've spoken to some of these guys early on.
And they seem like they have their heart in the right place.
But there's an inherent problem with Bitcoin.
And that is when you want to get liquid.
Now I said on a previous show that there's limitations like $2,000 a week or something.
Or $2,000 a day.
Some people have said they got seven days or 7,000 a day or a week.
The fact that it's restricted at all is a problem, and it seems rather arbitrary based upon your credibility, and you have to send in documentation.
The whole anonymity of it goes away because they just won't let you cash it in for dollars unless they know who you are because that's what the regulations are now being put in place for.
But when I saw this on CNBC, it blew my mind that here are financial journalists and no one sees the damn scam.
So this guy, he's like, oh, I'm going to show you how Coinbase works because everyone was talking about, oh, Bitcoin 10,000, Bitcoin 11,000, oh, it's to the moon!
And listen to this fallacy.
All right.
Well, here we are.
We're live at the plasma.
I have my Coinbase account, one of my Coinbase's account, right up here.
So you can kind of see the dashboard that you have.
I've talked about this a million times.
It's really easy to use.
So here you have the prices of Bitcoin all around there.
You can see I have a little bit of Ethereum.
I have a little less Bitcoin in there.
So let's go and let's do a live trade on this.
So I'm just going to click up here on the buy and sell button.
You can see it comes up.
I can buy Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin.
Or I can sell that amount.
And so I can either sell some Bitcoin, I can sell some Litecoin, I can sell some Ethereum.
And so what am I going to do today?
What are you going to do, BK? Buy it, BK! Buy it, BK! Buy it, BK! You know what?
Buy it, buy it, sell!
I'm going to be consistent with what I did for myself today and what I did with my fund today.
And I'm going to take a little bit off the table.
Oh!
I think, listen, I think it's...
Do you hear these morons?
Like, oh, wow, you're going to sell some Bitcoin.
Let's zoom in on the plasma.
Let's see how it goes.
So I have a small amount in here, and I did a small amount just because I wanted to show everybody, you don't have to buy one Bitcoin.
I have $66 worth of Bitcoin in here.
I've loaded it up.
It goes to my bank account here.
All I have to do is I click on here and say, I want to take my Bitcoin, and I want to sell it.
I want to sell the maximum amount that I have, which is $66 worth.
Boom.
There's the live trade.
I'm selling that.
I'm going to confirm my sell, and I'm going to get my money on Tuesday.
Oh, the sell failed!
Okay, so at this point, the screen pops up, and it says...
It's an error message.
It's not like, you know, you did something wrong.
No, it's failed.
It just failed.
The system failed.
It's a dude named Ben error message.
The system failed.
And they're like, oh!
Now listen to them try.
They know what's going on.
And listen to them try and talk it right.
We should be buying it.
Maybe that's the...
Let me roll that back.
This is the best part.
Hey, oh, the cell failed!
Oh!
Maybe I should be buying it.
Maybe that's the Bitcoin gods telling me to buy it.
You know what?
This is your financial news.
The Bitcoin gods telling me to buy it?
Let's do it that way.
Let's see if we can do it that way.
Alright, there we go.
Okay, so now I can buy $100 worth of Bitcoin.
Boom.
They're going to take it out of my bank account.
I'm going to confirm my buy.
And I purchased it successfully.
So the Bitcoin gods want me to buy it.
It looks like it's going higher.
That's how you do it.
Easy breezy.
Wait, so let me get this straight.
This is Coinbase, correct?
This is the Coinbase app.
The system that has had outages, basically, difficulties all day long.
Yeah.
You wanted to sell, but you couldn't sell.
But you could buy.
Wasn't that bad?
You weren't using the right denomination, though.
I bet.
No, no, I think it can't possibly be the system.
These guys are overloaded.
And maybe when people are selling, when it's at $12,000 or $11,000, maybe they don't have the funds available.
This is a real problem.
This is not simple, what's going on here.
It seemed like you were just going with the wrong size.
You were too small.
Well, no, I mean, we can certainly try it again, but I mean, they've been having...
Oh, I can hear the producer going, no, no!
No, do not try it again, Coinbase!
I mean, they've been having issues all day.
I think it was probably just a glitch in the system.
There you go.
It's a glitch in the system.
People have tens of thousands of dollars and they can't sell it.
Get out.
Can't.
Yeah, if you can.
If you can even get liquid.
Good luck.
Yeah.
I mean, when this is all said and done, it's going to be bigger than Enron.
Well, it's not happening tomorrow, but it's going to happen.
Oh, it's not happening tomorrow.
When it happens, it's going to be...
It's like Beanie Babies.
I said it from the very beginning.
I cited Beanie Babies, same thing.
Yeah, you're right.
When you're done with Beanie Babies, at least you have some cute little dolls and stuff to hang on to.
You had something.
There's something.
Here you got nothing.
Yeah.
You got a hashtag.
I think it was John.
I'm not sure.
But anyway, he had one of those Bitcoins.
It looks like a challenge coin, but it's got the B on it and the one size gold.
It's kind of gold plated.
Very cute.
Yeah.
Okay.
So really, is that a Bitcoin?
He said, yeah, it's a Bitcoin.
Yeah, very cool.
Use it to buy some drinks.
And I appreciate people who are very pro-Bitcoin and who are always sending me arguments.
I appreciate it.
But I'm just the counter guy.
And I hate to say it, but maybe do a little more on Sunday.
We've got to go through net neutrality again because I see really good people being hoodwinked again into this bullcrap.
You know?
Nothing you can do.
Many of these issues that we have on this show as kind of themes is like shoveling sand at the beach into the ocean.
It's just a waste of time.
Pushing water uphill with a broom, pretty much.
Yeah, same thing.
Alright, so I got a couple last clips here.
This was a very weird clip.
This was on CBS. I don't know what it means or what it...
I don't know the underlying anything about this clip, but they played it on CBS for some reason.
I think it may be messaging.
I'm not sure.
But this is the peculiar question about Harvard.
At the news conference today, our Paula Reid asked Attorney General Jeff Sessions about his department's civil rights priorities.
Her question seemed to touch a nerve.
Paula, what happened?
Anthony, I tried to ask Attorney General Jeff Sessions about the Justice Department's investigation into Harvard University's use of race in admissions.
At issue is whether the elite school discriminates against Asian American students by holding them to a higher standard than other applicants.
Letters we have obtained show Civil Rights Division investigators have concluded the school is out of compliance with federal law.
Now, former justice officials tell me this kind of investigation is unprecedented.
The letters also indicate Harvard is refusing to hand over documents and has gone so far as to challenge the department's authority to investigate.
The Justice Department has threatened to sue the university if it does not cooperate.
Now, none of this should have come as a surprise to the attorney general or his staff, but when I brought it up, here's what happened.
Mr.
Attorney General, your Civil Rights Department, for the most part, has not done many investigations into systemic racial discrimination, but you are currently investigating...
This is the Attorney General of the United States.
I understand you're doing your job, but I'm doing mine too.
Your Civil Rights Division is investigating Harvard University for possible civil rights violations related to affirmative action, possibly discriminating against Asian Americans and white students.
Why is this a priority for your Justice Department?
Okay, we'll take it He was able to ask about Alabama.
He was able to ask about sanctuary cities.
Why can't I ask about this?
Justice Department reporters, we regularly ask about ongoing investigations, and Mr.
Sessions' staff routinely declines to comment.
But not allowing the Attorney General to deal with the direct question in an open press conference is, to say the least, unusual, Anthony.
A very persistent Paula Reid with a very silent Attorney General.
Thank you.
Hmm.
Well, it is interesting that Elizabeth Warren used some of those admission rules to get her tenure by saying she was Cherokee, part Cherokee.
Yeah, that is interesting, but I don't know if it's connected to this story.
Why are they all in a huff about it?
I don't know.
I just saw the clip.
I said, well, maybe...
I don't know.
I just want to get on the record that something weird is going on with Harvard and the Justice Department.
I have a university clip.
Daluese University?
No, Daluese?
Daluese?
I don't know how to pronounce it.
Where is that?
Isn't it in Louisiana?
Let me see.
No, that's in Scandinavia.
Oh.
Makes nothing but sense, though.
Oh, yes.
Oh, they're so good up there.
I don't want to blame Canada and be picking on them, but you guys are providing them as the show.
A piece of fabric and a handful of pins are offering an increased sense of safety for some students at Dalhousie University.
The Nova Scotia Public Interest Research Group has partnered with the Dalhousie Student Union to provide emergency hijab kits at various locations on campus.
Amina Abawaji is the president of Dalhousie Student Union.
Abawaji is Muslim and wears a hijab.
She says the project is already having an impact.
I've already heard a lot of really positive feedback from the community that they are feeling really appreciated and seen, that their concerns are actually, you know, being addressed in a tangible way.
Personally, I do feel safer knowing that these are in places such as security.
So if there is an incident, you know, I've definitely been feeling safer and I've heard from a lot of my friends and colleagues that they've also been appreciating that this is out there.
I think supporting Muslims goes beyond having a hijab kit in your workplace or your office.
What are you doing for prayer times, for example?
What are you doing for those who are fasting during Ramadan?
Are there Muslim people in your leadership, in your workplace?
So I think that there's a lot of things that can be done.
This is one way to support people, but this is definitely not the be-all and end-all.
I would say, you know, even checking in on the Muslim people in your life, like how are they doing?
How are they feeling?
There's so many things that go beyond just having the kit.
So the concept here is the hijab kit.
Should you be walking through the university and someone says, hey, you Muslim, and grabs your hijab, you can run, break the glass, and get your emergency hijab kit so you're not exposed?
What?
Yes, that's what the hijab kit is.
So who's going around any university anywhere grabbing hijabs?
This must be happening.
Not necessarily.
I've never heard of such a thing.
Some goofballs, you know, just like the guys who used to find, you know, there used to be this apparel that was a tube top.
It's called a tube top.
And if you were like a little kid or something and you grabbed a tube top and you just do anything with it, it pops off and you get your breasts exposed.
Have you ever seen these things getting popped off?
That's why they became unpopular.
Because little kids would run up to a girl and just grab the thing and boing-oing-oing-oing.
Well, I'm just looking in the book of knowledge and I see a lot of hijab grab self-defense techniques.
How to stop a grab to the hijab.
Hijab grab.
Who's doing this?
Well...
It could be a scandal around here, and I've never heard any stories.
No, I don't know.
It must be happening.
We must not...
No.
That's nonsense.
It doesn't must be happening.
It might be a fiction.
Well, we've got hijab kits just in case.
So you get your hijab grabbed, and instead of just going home and getting another one, you can rush over to the hijab kit, break the glass, and put another one on, and then you go...
Man, I got lucky there.
Really?
Yeah, that's really true.
How come they don't have yarmulke kits then?
You know, this is a very good point.
And we also need emergency pastafarian strainers.
Now you're talking.
I'm on it.
You know, we can demand that.
We can demand, because they have to be equal for all religions.
So I think yarmulkes would be emergency yarmulke kit.
What else could we do?
What other religions?
For Buddhists, emergency orange blanket.
There we go.
That will be the sixth point that we were fired from this show.
Donate to this show.
We will never make it in real media.
We'll be fired.
We'll be fired.
I have one more if you're interested.
I have one more.
I've got a couple more, but I only have one that's really kind of interesting.
Okay.
This is a CBS report.
Emergency Mormon underwear kit.
Yes.
Ah, mohair.
Yeah.
Jeez, that's the story.
That's really the way to finish the show.
So I've got a report here.
This is CBS Network News, and I have a couple questions to ask after you play this poison, it says poison, dog bone.
Yes, okay.
All right.
The Food and Drug Administration has a warning for dog owners.
Some bone treats could make your dog sick.
These are real bones that are dried, flavored, and packaged for pets.
The FDA says about 90 dogs have reportedly become ill from the treats.
15 have died.
Okay.
All right.
Question.
And I'd like to know why they didn't bring this up.
Where are these dog treats?
What is the brand name?
Yeah.
Are they from China?
Where's the recall?
What is poisoning the dogs?
There's nothing answered in this.
This is a stupid report.
It tells us nothing.
Hmm.
Poisonous dog treats.
That's interesting.
Yeah, you'd think that...
No names were named.
Nothing.
This was the worst.
This is not reporting.
This is just kind of randomly talking about something.
It's unbelievable.
This is CBS network.
They got plenty of time to talk about Trump being a sexual predator, but they won't give us any real information when it comes to the poisonous dog treat.
Yeah.
I was incredibly aghast.
I was taken aback.
You were perturbed by that.
I understand.
All right, John.
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Yes, it has.
It's been a long time.
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They call her Pocahontas.
Pocahontas?
Is that what you said?
Elizabeth Warren?
I think she's as Native American as I am.
What I know about my parents is I know that in that little town they grew up in that my father's parents knew enough about my mother and her family to say, I have no doubt.
Warren says her great-great-great-grandmother is Cherokee, but genealogists have yet to confirm that.
One thirty second.
That's all I ever heard.
One thirty second.
How I love the face of the world.
One thirty second.
She's no good at once.
She's a goofus.
That's all I've danced with since the day I was born.
She's a woman that's been very ineffective.
She's a basket case.
No, that doesn't tell you.
Don't do that.
No, it is not.
Why not?
It's not about the number.
My Aunt Vee has walked by that picture at least a thousand times.
Remarked that he, that her father, Mike Papaw, had high cheekbones like all of the Indians do.
I've looked at her family papers.
There's nothing to indicate she's Cherokee.
Her family is found nowhere among Cherokee records.