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974: iPoop

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	Adam Curry, John C. DeVorah.
	And it's Thursday, October 19, 2017.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 974.
	This is no agenda.
	Preparing to calibrate our equipment.
	And broadcasting live from downtown Austin, Tejas, and the capital of the drone star state, in the Cluedio, in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's cold, overcast, and gloomy, I'm John C. DeVorah.
	Yeah, but is it smoky?
	No, it's not smoky.
	It may be smoky someplace else, but it's not smoky here.
	Ah, man, we gotta recalibrate.
	What happened?
	We're off!
	The rain sticks.
	Well, it's supposed to rain.
	But it's, listen to this, the headline.
	Atmospheric river to wallop northwest with rain and snow.
	We were a few degrees off, but it's coming.
	Well, like a week.
	Yeah, but it had to build up.
	I mean, come on, we did a massive rainstick rainstick shake for the fires in California.
	You did the most.
	I did.
	Yes.
	And you know what that means is once it starts raining there, it's going to be pouring in Austin.
	It always happens.
	But I'm okay with that.
	Yeah.
	So you think this is Europe, Europe above sea level?
	You think this thing is going to make it to California?
	That storm?
	Yeah.
	Well, I hope not.
	What, don't you?
	I hope it makes it to the fire.
	Yeah, to the fire and stop at the water so you don't get wet.
	Is that what you're saying?
	Don't go to the city.
	Although the city could use it to wash away some of the poop.
	Poop.
	Yeah, we're even seeing new stories here about people dying.
	Is it San Diego?
	Is that where the count is the highest?
	San Diego is where it started.
	Yes.
	People keep dying there from poop.
	Yeah, it's poop.
	Which brings me to- I have a whole series on something that's just similarly disgusting.
	Okay.
	Uh, Dr. Oz.
	Wait a minute.
	You're telling me that you watch Dr. Oz?
	Here's the story.
	They had something, I forgot exactly what it was, but there was some guy that was going to be on Dr. Oz.
	I wanted to hear what he had to say.
	I turn on Dr. Oz, and it turns out they have fire reports.
	So I never got to hear it.
	But I watched the fire reports.
	When they cut back to Dr. Oz, there was this great segment, which I recorded.
	Okay.
	I can't wait to hear all about it.
	Yeah, start with number one.
	Two-thirds of you.
	So I'm going to go ask you questions here.
	So I noticed your hand went up.
	So why do you take your phone to the toilet?
	I need to escape my children.
	Good reason.
	And what do you typically do in there?
	Well, I have a company phone, so I'm always doing business while I'm doing business.
	A company phone.
	How long are you generally in the bathroom for?
	It's just a question.
	On the phone?
	Longer than I should.
	I'll say that, yeah.
	Do you think that you're in the bathroom longer because you're on the phone?
	Yes, absolutely.
	To the point that my legs are numb.
	Your legs are numb?
	I love this!
	So it's not surprising if you were bringing a phone to the bathroom, right?
	We all like to be distracted when we go to the bathroom.
	That's why we have magazines.
	Literally, there are magazines that are written knowing that you read them in the toilet.
	I have a feeling this story is not going to a good place for those of us who take their phone and sit on the toilet until our thighs are numb.
	Couple things so far.
	It's a four part or so.
	A four?
	And you complain about the view.
	Okay.
	Now, he ends that segment.
	If you can go back and just play the ending again with something I dispute.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I just dumped the clip out.
	I can get to it.
	Hold on.
	At the end.
	The last, what, 10 seconds?
	Yeah.
	To the point that my legs are numb.
	Your legs are numb?
	I love this!
	So it's not surprising if you were bringing a phone to the bathroom, right?
	We all like to be distracted when we go to the bathroom.
	That's why we have magazines.
	I mean, literally, there are magazines that are written knowing that you read them in the toilet.
	That's only Wired, John.
	It's not every magazine.
	Only Wired magazine is published to be read in the toilet.
	Bullcrap.
	That is pretty funny.
	Yeah, he throws it in too, as if it's fact.
	This guy, by the way, does this constantly.
	He's always, um, throws out just these little sides that, that are like anecdotes, factual anecdotes when they're not.
	They're just bullcrap.
	He just makes stuff up.
	Yeah.
	So, but anyway, so now we get started getting into the, I, by the way, you mentioned that you, I've never talked on the phone when I'm taking a crap.
	Oh, I don't think this is for talking on the phone.
	I think it's just for surfing the web.
	...doing email and stuff.
	I'm sure you don't do that.
	Doesn't seem like a thing you would do.
	I, on the other hand, yes!
	I got my phone in there, I got my, uh, my Chromebook on the basket with towels, it's perfectly balanced.
	I got my coffee.
	How long do you have to sit there?
	Ah, sometimes I'll sit for 45 minutes.
	Eat prunes.
	So, uh... I get lost, I get lost in the moment.
	So I'm thinking of these guys, these people, I think a lot of them are talking on the phone.
	That's what they kind of say.
	Maybe they're surfing the web.
	I think they're surfing the web.
	That's what I think.
	You know, there's a lot of, yeah, okay, fine.
	Anyway, people like to surf the web on a phone with that little screen.
	I have more power to it.
	May I just give you an experience, just remind you?
	I want to remind you that you dropped your phone in the toilet more than once.
	I only think it was only once, but it was the first iPhone.
	I remember KJ, Sir Chris, got it for me.
	I was still living in London.
	And so I got in San Francisco, took it back, and I was like, look what he's got!
	Because they weren't available.
	And I'm in the bathroom, and I get up, and who knows, I don't remember exactly, but it fell in the toilet.
	Uh, pre-flush.
	And, what I- Ah!
	What I- I know.
	What I wound up doing, cause a lot of people had- you know, I was- I took to the blog immediately.
	What do I do?
	And, uh, the idea was to put it in a plastic Tupperware- in a Tupperware container with kitty litter.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, the phone never worked again.
	No, yeah.
	I don't see how it could.
	But anyway, go back to your meaningful little comment about something that makes it okay to sit in the toilet forever and surf the web.
	You had a story I interrupted.
	No, no, no.
	That was the story I was going to tell.
	I was going to tell the story that I dropped my phone in the toilet.
	And I'm sure I'm going to be horrified by what I learned from Dr. Oz.
	Yeah, you will be.
	Although, nobody else seems to care.
	People don't take, you know, well, people do not understand bacteriology.
	And I think there's also this hepatitis A outbreak, I think, is related to what we're going to learn here.
	Ah, okay.
	But I wanted to find out just how sanitary it was to use your phone in your toilet.
	Because you guys are all doing it, but we're asking that question.
	So, my team and I did a germ test.
	We swabbed the phones of five staff members who used their phones in the toilet, and the phones of five staff members we found who claimed they didn't.
	And then we sent them to the lab to be tested, and I have got the results today.
	We're gonna start with the staffers who don't use the phones on the toilet.
	I think they're clean folks.
	Again, they're claiming this.
	Hold on a second, stop.
	Now, he's already said twice that they cleaned it.
	Claim.
	He's used the word claim.
	They claim they don't use the verb.
	He said this twice.
	He's going to say it again later.
	He cannot believe.
	I find this very annoying.
	And by the way, this is despite the crazy numbers that come up.
	He cannot believe that anybody, he doesn't say this, but you can tell when he keeps saying claim, claim, claim.
	He cannot believe that anybody doesn't sit on the toilet with the phone because he does.
	Anyway, I just find it extremely annoying that he doesn't even trust his own staff, to be honest.
	It just, to me, just galled me to hear this over and over again.
	Claimed, claimed.
	They claim they don't.
	They claim they don't.
	Anyway, continue.
	Who don't use the phones on the toilet?
	I think they clean folks.
	Again, they're claiming this.
	We test this specifically for the bacteria found in human intestines and feces.
	Obviously, that's the stuff you might find flying around in the toilet.
	And we use that same test to figure out if the food or the water is contaminated.
	That's the test we use, right?
	So it's pretty valid.
	And ideally, we want the number to be under 10.
	The bacterial count on these phones was an average of 30.
	So it's more than ideal, but not crazy high.
	Now, for the people who do use their phone in the toilet.
	That's the majority of us.
	You know those answers?
	I'm gonna give them to you when we come back.
	Stick around.
	Oh, no!
	Not a tease!
	Oh, you must have been hating the tease.
	I hated the tease.
	What's the point if this is so important that you're gonna tease, make people wait?
	I was watching something the other day because of these fires locally and then there was some episode somebody shot somebody in San Francisco.
	I'm watching the... Again, I just was flipping around.
	Looking for show material.
	And I caught the Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?
	And they had this very simple question to this guy.
	And by the way, that's the worst show ever.
	The modern Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?
	consists of a guy trying... it's like they answer two questions in a half an hour.
	And the guy who answers the question spends most of his time kind of psychoanalyzing himself as he tries to pick an answer.
	And so they finally get to the point where there's going to be an answer.
	They break in.
	With breaking news, I never found out what the answer was.
	Oh, they interrupted the program and didn't pause the show?
	It just resumed later?
	They never pause the show nowadays.
	They just let it roll and then they cut back in.
	So I'm always kind of worried when some guy pulls one of these teases when I just want the answer.
	Now let's remember that the people who claim That they don't use the phone in the toilet.
	And by the way, the test I believe he's talking about is coliform.
	I used to run that test at Union Oil.
	And the coliform test is a bank of kind of some gels that you put in, you put all these drops of the samples in these little vials and then you cook them for overnight and then the next day you get a Some of them have reactants, some of them haven't if they have bacteria.
	Right.
	And so he's done the test.
	The number is 30 for the first batch.
	Now let's go to part two.
	So we're back revealing the truth about using your phone on the toilet.
	Now Sandra's here.
	She admits to using her phone on the toilet.
	Why?
	Why do you take it in there?
	First of all, I don't put my glasses on.
	I take my phone straight to the bathroom.
	I need to relax.
	I need to know what was going on through the night when I was sleeping.
	I just need to do a good poop.
	So how much time does it usually take you to have a good poop?
	Well, depends on the day.
	You know, if it's a rough morning, it could be about 30 minutes.
	You know, I thought the five minutes we did on french fries was already a little off color, but man, you're taking it to a whole new level with this.
	This is on network TV.
	Yes, this is the PoopCast.
	Depends on the day.
	You know, if it's a rough morning, it could be about 30 minutes, 40.
	It just all depends on what... They're in it 40 minutes?
	Absolutely.
	I have to sit there until my legs go numb by watching on my phone, and then I release a little bit.
	All right.
	Are you ready to see the results of people like you who take their phones to the toilet?
	I am.
	Come on.
	Bring it to me.
	To recap, folks who don't take their phones to the toilet, you know, they claim they don't, have a score of 30.
	Yeah?
	Did that get cut off there?
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	You're kidding me.
	I must have misclicked.
	Well, let's try the next clip and see if it's in there.
	Four parts of poop!
	Those who don't take their phones to the toilet, they claim they don't, have a score of 30 of these colonies of bacteria.
	They're supposed to be less than 10, but 30 is pretty close.
	Compared to people like that, we look to people like you, who take their phones to the toilet.
	Frankly, I'm in your group, by the way.
	Not there for 30 to 40 minutes, but I spend more time than normal.
	The average colony count?
	109,000!
	627!
	30 and 109,000!
	30, 109,000!
	109,627. 30, 109,000. 30, 109,000.
	Big difference.
	Okay.
	139,000 what?
	Microbes?
	No, 30 is a value.
	Okay.
	And the value for passing sanitary testing is 10.
	That's 10?
	10 is the value you're supposed to, you can't go over.
	Well, ho, ho, ho.
	Most importantly, do we know if this was their own microbes?
	Or someone else's.
	The colonies start to grow on these phones.
	And by the way, the number actually, I'm surprised he knew.
	He knows math.
	He should have rounded up.
	It's actually 110,000.
	So he has 110,000 is the value as opposed to 10, which is the value needs for something to be sanitary.
	And most people's phones have around 30, which is, I guess you can put up with that.
	This is your poop, God knows what.
	I mean, it's your hands, it's from your hands, it's from... All I know is I'd listen to this thing, I am not using anyone else's phone ever again.
	Detective Dookie!
	Detective Dookie!
	Poop Police!
	That's right!
	That's me, you!
	Special Opportunity!
	John C. Dvorak on the case!
	Now what this tells me...
	Is that Hepatitis A, which is a component of these, not of that particular test, but it's a component of how things are spread.
	It's a very, and you mentioned the other day, it can last for days and days and days in the wild without, you know, drying up and dying.
	Yeah.
	These phones are going to be the culprit when it comes to the great spread of Hepatitis A. You watch.
	We're going to share phones.
	Yes.
	And I guess, can I use your phone for a second?
	I just want to let me just check something.
	Let me check.
	You know, once you touch the person's phone, that's covered with bacteria.
	Yeah.
	You're going to transfer hepatitis A to your hands.
	You're going to rub your eye.
	Boom.
	You're going to have hepatitis.
	I'm telling this is a does everyone took this as a big joke in the audience.
	Oh, is anybody going to change their mind?
	No.
	Screw that.
	I like to sit and poop.
	And No.
	And by the way, what is this with every- there's at least two women that were in this audience that said they wait till their legs go numb.
	What is that?
	Yeah, I actually have that.
	If I sit on the toilet too long, and that's because of the height of the toilet, it's the wrong- it's not a perfect- it's not a good chair.
	Let's put it that way.
	And then my- yeah, my legs go numb.
	Alright, well anyway, so you apparently thought your phone must be just a bacterial... Yes!
	I am stopping that immediately and I appreciate this.
	This took an unexpected turn.
	I thought this was purely, you know, adolescent dumb humor at the beginning of the show, and it turns out this is a public health crisis that needs to be addressed in light of San Diego and San Francisco.
	Exactly.
	And the joke of it is, is everybody took it so, oh, what a great gag.
	Right.
	They don't have a clue what those numbers are.
	That's the point.
	Extremely outrageous.
	And he should have said that to pass, it cannot be more than 10.
	That would have been... He did at the very beginning.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, I didn't catch it, so that wasn't clear enough.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah.
	Alright, we need a PSA.
	Hi, I'm Adam Curry here with John C. Dvorak.
	It's very important you do not poop with your phone.
	And here's why.
	It's bad.
	Or, or we could come up with, you know, some kind of device like a bathroom poop case or something like that that could protect people.
	There's the opportunity everywhere.
	He did bring one guy and they had one kind of a product he had.
	There is a, uh, although a lot of people don't like using these, but it's one of those shells, uh, case, I don't know what you call it for a phone.
	I never use one.
	And it's made out of a plastic that's got antibacterial chemicals built into the plastic so nothing can really grow on the plastic.
	But the screen is still what you're touching with your finger and you're grinding around on it.
	It just makes me want to wash my hands listening to this segment.
	Yeah, you are a bit of a germaphobe in general.
	Not really.
	Okay.
	Alright, you got one more?
	There's a kicker here I guess?
	Yeah, it's just a little bit kicker.
	Not shaken on.
	Is that enough proof to get you to think twice about using your phone in the toilet?
	Absolutely not!
	I'm still taking my phone.
	I don't care if it's a million.
	I don't care about that.
	Have I changed anybody's mind here with that?
	Not a cent.
	Two people.
	Alright, you're very kind.
	I'm gonna keep working on you.
	Yeah, alright.
	Well, I appreciate it, John.
	Thank you.
	That's yet another handy tip from your No Agenda podcast.
	Thanks.
	Yes.
	Did you catch the Me Too hashtag?
	No.
	No.
	Oh yes, you know, on the face back.
	Yeah, this was a big thing the past week.
	I will explain.
	Yes, this is in observation of Harvey Weinstein, Hurricane Harvey, and his plant, and exiting on the floor.
	He's a nasty dude.
	And so now that women are coming out pretty much everywhere with a story, and it's not all necessarily Assault or predatory tactics.
	It's douchebaggery for sure But the hashtag me too Started trending and yeah, you had a lot of women were posting me too And then they'd expelled they would tell their story and I'd like the MTV group on face bag the private group I cannot read these because you know, there's names in there.
	Holy moly who knew but like give us a Before we go to the sub, I do have a clip that kind of is the over kind of the update on the sexual harassment thing and what I've concluded and I'm glad you brought this me too thing up because what I'm seeing now what I'm observing is that being sexually harassed is the new status symbol.
	You are the ultimate victim.
	This is the victimhood meme continues.
	I concur.
	So we're finding people coming out of the woodwork They're trying to come up with anything they can.
	In fact, some of them are extremely pathetic, and they're being sexually harassed.
	But it really started the ball rolling with this woman who was a showrunner, who Bob Weinstein apparently had a crush on.
	Yes.
	And he never molested her.
	He just kept emailing her.
	This was molesting was the problem, and rape.
	Yes.
	To a guy who is a pest.
	There's a difference between molesting and rape.
	And a guy jacking off just because you're standing there.
	Into the plant.
	That's a big difference between that and some guy who has a crush on a girl and he keeps asking her out no matter how many times she says no, which is now It now equals, equals.
	It now equals that, which is bullcrap.
	And this is like destroying the society that we live in.
	But let's play the sexual harassment update.
	We turn next here to stunning new developments after the flood of accusations of sexual misconduct against Harvey Weinstein.
	Tonight, a woman has now come forward to accuse his brother Bob of sexual harassment and what his lawyer is now saying.
	And it comes as two of Hollywood's biggest movie stars, Reese Witherspoon and Jennifer Lawrence, are also now coming forward.
	Here's ABC's Lindsay Davis.
	Tonight, Harvey Weinstein has officially resigned from the board of directors of the Weinstein Company.
	This after the board fired him last week from his position as co-chairman.
	Weinstein's lawyer is seen here exiting today's board meeting in New York City.
	Weinstein has sought treatment for his behavior in Arizona, but is still pursuing a claim he was wrongfully fired from the company.
	Now a woman has come forward to accuse Weinstein's brother, Bob.
	According to Variety, Amanda Siegel, who worked as a showrunner for the Weinstein Company drama The Mist, Weinstein's brother sexually harassed her in 2016 multiple times.
	She says he made repeated unwanted romantic overtures to her, including, according to the article, a request that she come up to his hotel room and repeated invitations to private dinners even after she had said no.
	Bob Weinstein's attorney responded, there is no way in the world that Bob Weinstein is guilty of sexual harassment.
	And even if you believe what this person asserts, there is no way it would amount to that.
	Now other Hollywood A-listers are coming forward with their own experiences.
	Actress Reese Witherspoon spoke out about sexual abuse she says she suffered by a Hollywood director.
	A lot of the feelings I've been having about anxiety, about being honest, the guilt for not speaking up earlier, for taking action, true disgust at the director who assaulted me when I was 16 years old.
	At the same event, Jennifer Lawrence described how, as a teenager, she was asked to pose in a lineup nearly naked.
	The female producer told me I should use the naked photos of myself as inspiration for my diet.
	And Lindsay Davis with us tonight, and now the head of Amazon Studios, also resigning after allegations of sexual harassment.
	That's right, Amazon's Roy Price also resigned today after being put on leave last week after an allegation of sexual harassment, David.
	Alright, Lindsay Davis on this again tonight.
	Lindsay, thank you.
	Hey, I have a quick little entremont that cuts into this.
	Jeffrey Katzenberg talks about both the Weinstein brothers.
	I will say for the two years that he worked for me at the company, interestingly enough, my greatest issues were with his brother.
	Bob Weinstein was genuinely abusive with people in my company and I very directly said to Bob, if you actually ever talk to somebody who works in this company, again, you're finished.
	And he said to me, Are you threatening me?
	I said, No, I'm telling you, if you do this again, you're done.
	So there's the fascinating thing about this.
	And the one person who did reveal himself in an unacceptable way to me was in fact, Bob.
	Interesting, huh?
	Yeah, it's very interesting and it doesn't surprise me.
	He's probably just a dick.
	You know, one of these Hollywood douchebags.
	power trip but he's not he's not uh he's not he doesn't have that he's not that crazy gene he's not a master he needs lessons but they come from the same family so they're going to have similar characteristics and i'm sure they're both mean-spirited it's unbelievable hard to work for you know what bugs me you know what bugs me the most is there were plenty of people talking about harvey weinstein publicly but these people were deemed nuts
	And all kinds of sexual stuff is going on in Hollywood, but whenever someone came out and said it, uh, nah, he's just crazy.
	He's just nuts.
	Here, this is 2005.
	Very quick.
	It's, uh, I think this is probably the beginning of Comedy Central, and they interviewed Courtney Love, Kurt Cobain's, uh, wife.
	Widow.
	Widow.
	So, do you have any advice for young girls in Hollywood?
	Um, I'll get lively.
	If Harvey Weinstein invites you to a private party at the Four Seasons, don't go.
	That may be hard to hear.
	If Harvey Weinstein ever invites you to a private dinner at the Four Seasons, don't go.
	She said it right there.
	The actual thing he does.
	Yeah.
	And, oh, just crazy Courtney Love.
	We're not going to listen to her.
	And I'm... The truth is there.
	It's there.
	This is the thing about covering this news the way we do it.
	Yes, there are no secrets, only information you don't yet have.
	We find people saying stuff off the cuff they shouldn't be saying and we just take it seriously.
	If you start taking people more seriously instead of thinking everything is a big joke or everything is a big conspiracy theory, You might get a little further in understanding what's really going on, and I think this is a perfect example of it.
	Actually, this is a ridiculous example.
	I have another one that is always brushed aside, that I feel is extremely important, and I've been talking about this for ten years on this show.
	Although this clip is more recent than that, the view when Barbara Walters was still hosting, Corey Feldman.
	I'm saying that there are people that were the people that did this to both me and Corey that are still working, they're still out there, and they're some of the richest, most powerful people in this business.
	And they do not want me saying what I'm saying right now.
	Are you saying that they're pedophiles?
	Yes.
	And that they're still in this business?
	Yes.
	And that's what you were saying in your book.
	When you talk to parents, Corey, there are a lot of parents out here who want to put their kids in this business.
	Their kids are cute, they're great actors.
	What would you say to a parent who just has the best of intentions who's coming here with their child?
	If you're saying that there's a lot of predators in this industry.
	It's a many-feathered bird, okay?
	Be careful what you wish for.
	That's what I'll tell you.
	You know, don't go into it with naivety.
	Don't go into it thinking that it's all roses and sunglasses and all that.
	You're damaging an entire industry.
	I'm sorry, I'm not trying to.
	I'm just trying to say that it's a very important, serious topic.
	You said that there was one gentleman in the industry who did not take advantage of you.
	He was not a pedophile.
	You said it was Michael Jackson.
	Of all people.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah.
	It's funny.
	Mm-hmm.
	And so there he is.
	And there's Barbara, of course, defending Hollywood.
	Yeah.
	Oh, you're ruining an entire industry.
	Well, she's ruining her industry.
	She does the interviews of Hollywood people.
	Yeah.
	Or she did.
	She doesn't anymore.
	Well, I got one other clip.
	They're just kind of an interesting contrast, because this is.
	This is the woman scoring who's not brought into the conversation at all.
	This is Gretchen Carlson.
	Who actually makes it, she tells a different story or she presents a different angle and she doesn't show up on any of these things.
	Nobody sticks a microphone in her face, even though she won a huge settlement from Fox for being harassed by a couple of people over there, I guess.
	But she's got a different perspective on the whole thing.
	And of course where you find this is on Book TV on C-SPAN because nobody else is going to discuss anything like this.
	Over 90% of sexual harassment cases end up in settlements.
	And what does that mean?
	That means that the woman pretty much never works in her chosen career ever again.
	And she can never talk about it.
	She's gagged.
	Now how else do we solve sexual harassment suits?
	We put in arbitration clauses and employment contracts, which make it a secret proceeding.
	So again, nobody ever finds out about it if you file a complaint.
	You can never talk about it.
	Ever.
	Nobody ever knows what happened to you and in most cases you're also terminated from the company and the predator in many cases is left to still work in the same position in which he was harassing you.
	So this is the way our society has decided to resolve sexual harassment cases.
	To gag women so that we can fool everyone else out there that we've come so far in 2017.
	Boom.
	Boom, count one, ladies and gentlemen.
	We're good.
	I only have one more.
	um Hey.
	Hillary is doing all of these interviews in the UK for some reason.
	Or at least on the BBC, and she did a long sit-down interview with The Economist.
	Which, for all intents and purposes, is a British interview.
	And she kind of reiterates everything with one little extra kicker, which could be interpreted however you want, from the Lizard Lady.
	Let's turn to another subject in the news, a rather disturbing one.
	You've said that you're shocked, appalled by the revelations about Harvey Weinstein.
	And of course, you've distanced yourself, you've condemned what he did.
	But does it give you pause for thought?
	How carefully did you check the background of your donors?
	What are the lessons to learn here?
	I think there are a lot of lessons for everybody to learn.
	With respect to him specifically, he's been a supporter of Democrats for decades.
	He's a strong supporter of mine, a strong supporter of President Obama, and many others.
	And we do vet donors, and that shows you what was and wasn't in the public arena in terms of specific knowledge.
	Because I certainly, as the Obamas themselves said, was surprised and disgusted by these revelations.
	But there is a network of people who know each other well.
	And I've seen so many people come out.
	A lot of them are at least sympathetic to the Democratic cause.
	I suppose my...
	Yeah.
	The hunch is that there's an incuriosity sometimes within groups, within elites, left or right, where they don't want to ask awkward questions about people they're comfortable with, no socially.
	You know, with our vetting, and I know this is true for the Obamas as well, we turn down a lot of people.
	Oh, yeah.
	So if information comes that is, you know, troubling, we act on it.
	And all I can tell you is that no such information came.
	It may have been a well-kept, unfortunate secret in entertainment circles.
	No, that's not true.
	But even some of the women who've come out, I've been with them.
	I've been at events with them.
	What?
	What?
	Did she just come out to everybody?
	No.
	But even some of the women who've come out, I've been with them.
	I love taking stuff out of context.
	I've been at events with them.
	I know them.
	And no one has ever said anything.
	And so part of it was, I guess, as they have all described, the fear factor, that they wouldn't be believed, they wouldn't tell anybody, until finally the dam broke.
	I can't speak to why it didn't break sooner, but now that it has, he's facing consequences.
	But I don't want to lose sight of the larger problem.
	Shining a bright spotlight on just him is missing the point.
	We have a confessed sexual assaulter in our White House.
	There she goes again.
	So we can't just say, oh my gosh, condemn this one person and move on.
	This is a larger problem in society.
	Yeah, and the problem is the Ministry of Truthiness.
	Who just won't report on stuff.
	And the stupidity of the people who don't want to find stuff out.
	They just want it handed to them like they're mac and cheese.
	Which is why you're all here, I presume.
	I'm hoping.
	Yeah.
	It's just... Oh well.
	Anyways, I found the whole thing to be... Now that the dam is broke, as she likes to put it, I think a lot of people are looking for some sort of... I mean, the Reese Witherspoon thing was kind of annoying, because all she could come up with was... When she was 16, she was assaulted by a director, and she wouldn't say his name.
	Now, I haven't done this yet, but I know I could just go to the IMDB, reverse engineer her age, if her age is accurate, which may or may not be.
	It might be off a few years.
	But assuming it is, you can see what she was working on when she was 16, and you can assume it's that director, if she was working for anybody, or maybe she was just doing Yeah, I don't understand that either.
	Why won't you call the person out?
	Unless it wasn't that egregious, or was it?
	I don't know her story.
	I mean, people called out Harvey Weinstein left and right, no matter what Hillary said, and you proved it with that clip earlier.
	Right.
	And it was also shown, and 30 Rock had a bit about it, and Letterman did a whole bunch of interviews with women he knew were attacked by Weinstein on his show.
	Including that little Jennifer Lawrence girl.
	So it wasn't anything that was a shock to anyone.
	And the reason for that is that, what's Weinstein going to do?
	He's not going to do much other than blackball you, which he can do, which is pretty powerful.
	Or pay you off, which he did with a number of people, I guess.
	Which is also pretty powerful.
	Yeah, it's very powerful.
	And the gag order comes in play, which is what Gretchen was bitching about.
	And so you end up with, uh, but it's not as though you don't know what's going on.
	And generally speaking, if somebody actually did that to you, you have a, you have a legal case against them.
	And then what are they going to do?
	Sue you for liable?
	He tried to rape me.
	Well, it's bullcrap.
	You need witnesses.
	And he said, she said, and people are worried about their careers.
	I love this so much.
	For now, whenever anyone says that that's just a conspiracy theory, someone would have talked, you know, there's too many people who knew I said, just like Harvey Weinstein.
	Seriously.
	Yeah.
	Everybody talked.
	Shut up.
	Everybody knew everybody talked.
	Well, what happened?
	And people do talk.
	This is very good.
	This is very good for a lot of things.
	Except for the women who are abused, which is horrible.
	And the men.
	Yeah, we haven't gotten to that yet.
	No, I mean, my buddy Jack, he posted, because he hates this stuff, he posted about how a record boss grabbed his crotch, you know, how there was a A&R guy, he invited the band, you know, oh yeah, play for me, great, and then some record exec, or he called the next day, he's like, hey, it was great, you guys come up here, and the president of the label wants to know if your keyboard player's gay, because he'd like a date with him, you know, all this kind of bullcrap.
	Just as horrible and physically assaulting someone?
	That's bullcrap!
	Yeah, it happens.
	It happens.
	Well, there is a thing known as male rape.
	Yeah, well, I don't know.
	We don't need to harp on it because it's women's turn this century.
	We're done.
	Yeah, that's actually what would happen.
	That's actually you just nailed it.
	That's what would have happened.
	That's what would happen.
	It'll happen.
	This will get into the news once the other thing starts to slow down.
	But the women are going to say, oh, there's the men trying to draw attention.
	Wow, you talk just like all women.
	That's fantastic.
	How do you do it?
	Yeah, exactly.
	So what's going to happen?
	Yeah, well, you know, right now it's just a free for all and we get to see what comes of it.
	I mean, I see it tapering off.
	I mean, why is Jane Fonda being interviewed over and over about this?
	But she's been, you know, none of these people are really calling anyone out.
	Y'all what happened to me?
	But no one, I see very little nameage.
	I see none.
	Yeah.
	Except Harvey Weinstein, now Bob.
	There are so many douchebags.
	So many douchebags.
	No, there are.
	There are, definitely.
	But, you know, this is nothing new.
	But you can't change it just overnight.
	I mean, this is a long, long process.
	I don't think the Me Too thing was very effective.
	I think it's virtue signaling.
	As you say, it's a little bit of the... There's some victimhood in there.
	It's a... Status symbol.
	Status symbol.
	You're a nothing if you haven't been assaulted.
	Well, I know women who didn't do it, who said, I don't want to participate in that.
	I know that too.
	And they see, you know, this is, well, I went through some shit and that's life.
	And, uh, I've learned from it and I'm a better person for it.
	And I won't let things happen to me again, but don't necessarily want to be out, you know, in the me too crowd, which is, there's nothing's going to come of it.
	Rip all of Hollywood apart.
	Do it.
	Now is the opportunity.
	It's not gonna happen.
	Pussies.
	It's not gonna happen.
	It's a money making operation.
	Get all the beautiful people all pushed together in the same room and weird things happen.
	Yes.
	And people want to see it, so they pay money.
	They go to the big movies.
	They'll pay, I don't know, what do you have to pay to go see an IMAX film nowadays?
	25 bucks?
	No, 15.
	15 here at the theater.
	That's at the museum.
	Yes, but it's 15.
	It's beautiful.
	It's not 15 here at AMC.
	Gotcha.
	Alright, so there's that.
	Hey, did you hear about, I don't really have any details, apparently the final 31,000 files that are sealed in the National Archives under the 1992 JFK Records Act on October 26th, Uh, these are supposed to, it's 25 years, and it's supposed to be, uh, made public.
	Yeah.
	And from what I understand, the CIA is urging the President to delay this disclosure for another 25 years!
	Yeah, of course.
	There's nothing to see here.
	Gee, I wonder why it would be the CIA who wants to- Don't look over here!
	Nothing to see here!
	Ooh, look at that!
	That's insulting!
	Gee, yeah, well, hmm, gee, do you think, you think?
	You wanna take bets on what's gonna happen?
	You go.
	Does anybody think that the actual thing is going to be released unredacted on October 26th?
	Well, is that not the law?
	Is that not what is on the books?
	I don't care what's on the books.
	I'm just asking.
	Do you think this is going to happen?
	Gee, I don't know.
	Oh, strange fire just took place.
	Yeah, it's like the NASA moon landing tapes.
	We lost them.
	We don't know where they are.
	I'm so sorry.
	Or maybe they go in and they'll be like Geraldo's vault.
	There's nothing in here.
	In fact, Geraldo could do that.
	Geraldo should do the show.
	It got stolen by the Russians.
	Awesome.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Blame it on them.
	The Russians.
	I'm all over it.
	The Russians are the ones who killed Kennedy.
	And it's on our big 10th anniversary.
	Yes, isn't that wild?
	Our 10th anniversary, which is October 26, will be the day that the Kennedy documents won't get released.
	It will be commemorated.
	To show even more relevance.
	It will be commemorated.
	That was the day when they did not release the Kennedy files.
	Yeah, you're right.
	It's a bet I won't take.
	For sure.
	Well, since we mentioned the Russians, I want to make this segue and then I'll let you take over.
	So none of the networks except ABC seems to have picked up on this story.
	Or none of them wanted to do this.
	I don't know what the deal is with this story.
	Because the story needs a lot of interpretation.
	It says the clip is Black Matters, but it should be Black Matters.
	Racist slip there.
	I didn't know about that.
	The M is next to the N.
	Play this clip and tell me what you think.
	This evening, if you thought the Russians and their involvement ended with the election, authorities tonight say not so fast that they are still hard at work.
	In fact, this evening, a new report about Russia's efforts to stir up racial conflict right now inside the United States.
	Here's ABC's chief investigative correspondent Brian Ross.
	A stunning claim tonight about just who's behind the group promoted in this music video, Black Matters U.S.
	Congressional investigators say Black Matters U.S.
	was actually set up by the Russians during the 2016 election to stir up racial tension.
	It's not fair.
	I don't think it's fair.
	The St.
	Louis rapper who wrote the music for the video says he got Instagram messages from people he did not know asking him to write a song dealing with police brutality.
	I had no clue that it was it was Russian or anything like that.
	No sir, it messed me up.
	All part of a sophisticated campaign that included Facebook ads, Twitter posts, and efforts to organize at least two big rallies, one against police brutality.
	U.S.
	investigators believe it was directed from this so-called troll factory in St.
	Petersburg, Russia.
	It's a way to suppress votes and stoke fear at a level of sophistication that I don't think we appreciated at the time.
	Investigators say the Russian factory also was behind these YouTube videos, first reported by the Daily Beast, aimed at black communities attacking Hillary Clinton.
	Hillary Clinton is not our candidate.
	The speakers claim to be in Atlanta, but investigators think they may actually be people hired by the Russians in Africa.
	And the Russians remained busy even after the election.
	Another Russian group called Black Fist organized self-defense classes, supposedly for protection against the police.
	Five American fitness trainers were hired to run them.
	They pay me $320 for the month, four classes.
	They're taking advantage of people who really care about the community.
	Right.
	It's very sneaky.
	It's very sneaky.
	It's very underhanded.
	And in fact, Brian, the Attorney General Jeff Sessions was asked today on Capitol Hill if he believes the U.S.
	is prepared for what the Russians continue to do.
	Yes, David, he had a stark answer.
	Probably not, he said.
	We're not, he said.
	The midterm elections are just over a year away, and there is still no national strategy to deal with the issue, David.
	Brian, you'll stay on it.
	Now, before we discuss this ludicrous crap, CNN got the same memo.
	They spun it a little differently and didn't have the music video part to it.
	In January of this year, well after the presidential election, New York martial arts instructor Omowale Adewale says he was contacted by a group called Black Fist, saying it would pay him to hold free self-defense classes for members of the black community.
	Did you ever think this is weird?
	Yeah, a lot of times I thought it was weird.
	Weird, but the money was good.
	$320 a month paid direct through PayPal and Google Wallet to teach just four classes, and Blackfist would promote it.
	What was also weird?
	No one from Blackfist... Since when is reporting...
	Does journalism at any point include the word weird?
	I think using the word weird is a glitch.
	Yeah, it's a glitch in the brain.
	You can't do that in a serious report.
	That was weird!
	Let me tell you, man!
	That was weird, Bill!
	This is podcast quality.
	And Google Wallet.
	Yeah, it's really weird and suspicious.
	To teach just four classes.
	I think that's actually the hallmark of a conspiracy theory, when people start throwing that in.
	Weird, curious, you know, strange.
	The mainstream is doing that.
	Hello?
	$20 a month, paid direct through PayPal and Google Wallet to teach just four classes, and Blackfist would promote it.
	What was also weird, no one from Blackfist ever showed up to meet him.
	His only communication was in text and faraway sounding phone calls from this man named Taylor.
	The digital trail suggests the contact on the phone was part of a Russian propaganda arm seeking to stoke racial tensions and disrupt the U.S.
	political system.
	CNN has confirmed the social media accounts connected to Blackfist are among the pages Facebook identified as coming from Russians, according to a source familiar with the matter.
	Links to those accounts appear on the Blackfist website.
	And Black Fist, which portrayed itself as an activist group seeking to empower black Americans, was likely developed inside the Russian troll factory in St.
	Petersburg, Russia.
	Look at what Blackfist said about its self-defense class.
	Just look!
	They are by black for black and let them know that black power matters.
	The Russian magazine RBC first identified Blackfist as well as dozens of other Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram accounts designed to look and act like real Americans.
	Not the fake ones.
	A propaganda troll factory operating out of this building in St.
	Petersburg employs hundreds of people running fake Facebook accounts, Twitter accounts, Instagram and Tumblr accounts designed to look and act like real Americans spewing out messages aimed at sowing discord among the American electorate.
	I am a fake American and proud of it.
	Tumblr.
	Tumblr.
	Then so we got to count the money now $100,000 for the ads 320 for the black fist 320 bucks a month a month.
	Oh, let's just say it's three thousand then ten months.
	So it's one hundred thousand three one hundred three thousand and twenty dollars Well, I think that writer who did, although CNN for some reason didn't cover what I think is the more interesting half of the story, which is, which is Black Matters.
	Yes.
	Well, wasn't that the outfit that mimicked Black Lives Matter and then became more successful?
	That is the strategy for counterintelligence, which we talked about on the show all the time.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	You create a similar sounding organization and you claim their same values.
	And then you co-op them, and then you destroy the movement.
	Yes.
	And Black Matters has just got all the elements.
	Black Lives Matter.
	Black Matters.
	Not Black Lives Matter.
	Black Matters.
	Black Matters U.S.
	But they also had a music video.
	I'm telling you that's very sophisticated.
	I think the music video was hot.
	It was a hot idea.
	Very sophisticated.
	That probably cost them a grand.
	Nah, I think going rate is $1,700.
	Yeah, if you want some catering.
	If you guys are throwing in 20 bucks a month, they probably got this guy cheap.
	That's unbelievable.
	Plus catering.
	Hey man, I know my budget.
	We bring in our own brass section.
	Yeah, now, so along with that comes, and this is, there's no clips because there's no clips.
	Is the uranium story is back and everyone's acting like this is the other shoe that was supposed to drop after we found out that Hillary Clinton knew about Harvey Weinstein.
	The uranium story is interesting to me because it It's old.
	It's been around for a long time.
	It's a very old story, yes.
	It's back from when she was Secretary of State.
	It's a good story.
	It makes nothing but sense that it's a story of corruption.
	But now the FBI has confirmed through documents they had to release Who are those lawyer guys I like a lot?
	Judicial Watch.
	Judicial Watch forced them under FOIA and they had released these documents where somewhere else it buried in another file and so they were clearly being obfuscated and now they show the timeline etc.
	and they were already looking at corruption and collusion but mainly corruption and payoffs from the Russians for this very deal.
	And the Clinton cash guy who wrote about it in his book, it's like $145 million at least that we know of.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's unbelievable.
	But it's getting no legs, no play.
	I'm baffled by this because if you were in the media running one of these operations and you were the editor-in-chief, whatever you want to call the guy, this seems like a great story that you could I mean, you could really have a time with this story.
	Well, there's only one guy doing it.
	Only one.
	Tucker Carlson.
	He's the only guy that's on this.
	He's also- Yeah, he's marginalized himself.
	He's gonna be off the air.
	The boy is out there talking about drug companies.
	And not just a little bit.
	Like, really- A mistake.
	Yeah, a big mistake.
	That show is so canceled.
	Hey, Tucker, look at the bread.
	Yeah.
	See where it's buttered.
	Really, man?
	Like, you can go far, but, you know, ixnay on the uggdrays.
	This really is a very dumb idea.
	But I mean, it's great and I applaud him for it, but he'll never make it to the finish line.
	Never.
	Exactly.
	He's popping.
	He's going to be stopped dead at the halfway point.
	He's peaking too quickly.
	He's got to go easy on this.
	Pull back a little, man.
	If you're going to do something like that, just strategize that.
	You have to get your... Maybe he knows he's on a sinking ship.
	It's possible.
	Because he's a one-trick pony.
	So it's possible he says to himself, look, I'm a one-trick pony.
	This is not going to last.
	I'm not O'Reilly.
	I don't have a formulaic show that I can make tons of money with.
	I'm going to die here.
	I might as well get this out of the way.
	Right.
	Otherwise, the normal strategy is to get bigger and bigger and bigger and so big that nothing you do gets you kicked off.
	I mean, look at what... It took a lot of work to get O'Reilly off.
	Yeah.
	And it was always just sexual bullcrap.
	So, this is maybe what he's thinking.
	Because I don't think he's got legs in that show.
	No.
	He can't get guests.
	Somebody was tweeting, this is about some woman I follow, that she's a writer or something, a producer.
	And she says, Tucker Carlson invited me to this show, there's no way!
	And she goes into a rant about, and she's kind of like a, I'd say, conservative.
	She's not like a liberal.
	No.
	So it's going to get, you know, he ambushes people.
	He's an ambush style journalist.
	So now he's, I don't think that show's going to make it.
	So he's probably doing that for that reason.
	I'm just thinking.
	Well, good, because he'll get a few hits in there.
	I think, was it yesterday, or the co-founders of GPS?
	This is all tied into it.
	This is why you're not hearing about any of it.
	The report.
	The report!
	The report about the hookers peeing on the bed the Obama slept in.
	The guys who co-founded the company that produced the report are all taking the fifth.
	They're not going to testify.
	Of course they're not.
	They don't stand behind their work, I guess.
	Apparently not.
	I mean, but we can't be reporting this.
	This would be crazy.
	Everything falls apart.
	I mean, a lot of... Isn't Mueller's investigation even, for a large part, based off of this?
	Well, Sessions was actually... I have a very short Sessions clip, because he was being grilled by the Judiciary Committee on C-SPAN.
	Not on C-SPAN, but, you know, he was on C-SPAN.
	Down the hill.
	He's a funny character, Sessions, because he's very slow talking and they only have a limited amount of time to ask questions.
	So he makes sure to talk real slow.
	And then one question, I didn't clip it because it was just dead air.
	Somebody asked him a question and I'm telling you, it was 15 seconds of him staring.
	Really?
	Yeah, it was like, why?
	And then he asked to have the question clarified.
	Which would make sense if he was just staring blank stare.
	He was asked a number of questions about the dossier from Lindsey Graham, who asked him if there was a FISA warrant that was issued against Trump or the campaign based on information in the dossier.
	I'm sorry.
	Yes.
	FISA warrant.
	Yeah.
	He asked if there was a FISA warrant issued against Trump or the campaign based on information in the dossier.
	And Sessions says he didn't know of anything.
	And which means he doesn't know.
	He says, but he'll check into it.
	He wouldn't.
	He says he wouldn't have known that.
	So that's going to be checked out.
	But there was one question that came up and that was kind of a news to me that that would that's in the mix.
	But Lindsey Graham did ask one question at the very end of his questioning time.
	And that I thought was.
	This was news to me and I because the The hearing was mostly about why Comey was fired and all the reasons he was fired and what they knew about the Russians.
	The Russians and Comey.
	The Russians and Comey.
	And this little tidbit came up.
	So, are you sure?
	Sessions clashed most bitterly with Minnesota's Al Franken.
	Oh, actually, that's... Stop.
	That's not the clip I'm looking for, but that is a clip we should play.
	So let's play that clip.
	That's the background.
	I'm sorry, I can ask you the Lindsey Graham question.
	Is that the one you want?
	Yeah.
	Why don't we play that one first?
	No, no, no, no.
	If I thought about it, I would have played the clip you're playing.
	Okay.
	Mr. Chairman, I don't have to sit in here and listen to his charges without having a chance to respond.
	Give me a break.
	Franken accused Sessions of changing his story about a meeting with Russia's ambassador during last year's campaign.
	Not being able to recall what you discussed with him is very different than saying, I have not had communications with the Russians.
	things.
	The ambassador from Russia is Russian.
	Senators wanted to know how he plans to prevent future election meddling.
	I'll be frank, I don't know that we are doing a specific legislative review at this point.
	Do you think it would be prudent to do a specific legislative review?
	We have been warned.
	I take that as a suggestion.
	Republican Ben Sasse asked if the U.S.
	is doing enough to combat Russian interference online.
	Probably not.
	We're not.
	Sessions did eventually confirm in that hearing that he has not been asked to sit for an interview in connection with the Russia probe, but said he's committed to cooperating and reiterated that he had no improper conversations with any Russians about the 2016 campaign.
	Anthony?
	Nancy Cordes on Capitol Hill.
	Thanks.
	I keep hearing these questions and what they're asking and, did you talk to the Russians?
	I mean, we've gone collectively insane.
	This is unbelievable and Frank is an idiot.
	And by the way, what a miserable life you have to be if your name is Ben Sass.
	Don't you think?
	Ben Sass.
	Ben Sass.
	Hey, Ben Sass!
	I don't know if Mnuchin is any better.
	That's not great.
	So that was the CBS version of the whole thing.
	It was just always boils down to like anti-Trump kind of action.
	But this is, nobody brought this.
	This I got from C-SPAN.
	Nobody brought this up.
	This is Lindsey Graham asks a confidential question.
	I'm buzzing about for months.
	Now this is very important.
	I got nine seconds.
	I know that Comey has told other committees that the main reason he got involved in July to take over the investigation was not because of the tarmac meeting, was because he was worried there was an email in the hands of the Russians between the DNC and the Department of Justice.
	And I know that testimony exists.
	And some claim the email was fake.
	Do you know anything about this?
	And is there any way for us to find out what actually happened?
	Wait a minute.
	I know we talked about this.
	What exactly was that email again?
	Nobody knows.
	I don't know that we talked about it.
	Yeah, there was definitely an email and it was faked and stuff had been based off of that.
	Maybe.
	It's possible we have.
	But what's interesting to me is that Lindsey Graham is talking about hearings that were closed.
	Oh.
	Because there's no, if you listen to this carefully and read between the lines, he's actually, he says he knows there's testimony.
	That means it was closed.
	If it wasn't, he could just go look it up.
	Right.
	And he's trying to get sessions to open up about it.
	Got it.
	So there is something that happened in one of the closed sessions with Comey, because Comey gave a lot of testimony, especially to the intelligence guys, in closed sessions, so nobody knew what was going on.
	Lindsey Graham got wind of it or knows about it, and maybe it's what we talked about earlier about this email between the DNC and the Justice Department, which is probably incriminating somebody.
	That's why Comey jumped into the email scandal so he could make sure that it was either erased or there was no trace of it or we're going to figure out who has it.
	Who knows?
	We don't know.
	But let's... There must be something to it because of Sessions' reaction.
	And the Department of Justice, and I know that testimony exists, And some claim the email was fake.
	Do you know anything about this?
	And is there any way for us to find out what actually happened?
	Well, I'm not suggesting one way or the other that I know anything about it.
	I would just say that would be improper for me to share at this time if I knew.
	We just stopped.
	He said he can't share whatever I know.
	For some reason he's sharing everything else.
	Well, the thing is unraveling.
	Something's unraveling.
	And maybe that's what Mueller's in there for, is to just kind of plug the leaks.
	There's something up.
	Yes.
	And it's not minor, and I think Trump's oblivious to it.
	But people, I think Lindsey Graham's not.
	And of all people to go after these things, you know, he's not a...
	Guy I would expect.
	I'm really, I'm just really getting tired of it.
	You know, they have not, there's nothing new.
	And the only thing that they have new is, oh, Black Matters and Brush.
	Here's something new for you.
	How about George Soros just transferred $18 billion to his Open Society Institute?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's a pot load of money.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You should think of starting up an operation.
	Well, if I were Black Matters, I'd be pissed.
	320 measly bucks.
	You creep.
	That's black fist.
	Black fist.
	Yeah.
	Black.
	I feel black fisted.
	This is just bad.
	I mean, does anyone see?
	There's got to be some real gravy train operations out there that know how to... Look, I cohabitate.
	The love of my life does this for a living.
	You set up, well she doesn't do this, but we have an awesome, we have tons of these.
	You have the Dell Foundation.
	The Dell Foundation is the motherlode.
	Big, big, big.
	These guys are great.
	Not only do they have the Jell Children's Hospital and they do a lot for Austin and Texas and for the universe.
	But at the same time, I can probably point to 20 non-profits, anywhere between 100,000 a year and maybe a million and a half.
	And they all do little things, little non-profit things, usually one or two people.
	And they suck up the money.
	And with the Soros thing, you know, it's these little black fists, black matters, you know, and that could even come through as third hand.
	I mean, we trace this back all the time through the Form 990s, which they have to release for tax purposes.
	You can see exactly where it goes.
	It's all in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.
	But that's how you do it.
	It's not that hard.
	We just have to have a hook.
	So I think if we... Well, some people, the good operation is the way I'm looking at it.
	Do it by the millions of dollars.
	Oh, yeah.
	If you know what you're doing, but we're just small guys.
	That's the point.
	I'm thinking of retirement.
	I'm thinking we should do the Black Fist podcast.
	Hello, I'm Mr. White.
	Here's my other Mr. White.
	It's the Black Fist podcast.
	It seems to me that there's a lot of people that know how to get on the tit.
	Yeah.
	and get the millions at a pop.
	Bang, bang, bang.
	So you see, every once in a while we run into some unknown operation, and you look up to 990, and they're like $45 million budget.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Or $450 million, give or take $100 million for Southern Poverty Law Center.
	Another outfit that hands money to people.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Maybe in this whole tax thing we can...
	No, I guess not.
	We're such a philanthropic country.
	It's just us being abused.
	I don't like it.
	It's being abused.
	It is being abused, and I think Soros is, like, making it worse.
	The problem is Soros and his political agenda is just, he doesn't, you know, you have to remember, what does Soros do for a living?
	He's a hedge fund guy.
	He only cares about making a ruckus so that he can make money.
	I don't think he, he has some ideals, but it seems like he just follows his nose and goes where the stink is.
	I can make a mess over here.
	Although I can benefit some other way.
	There's a certain number of investment types out there that you run into, very rare, but they have a second sense or a third sense or fourth, I don't know what number it is, but they can see certain opportunities appear in the kind of like, ah, you know, if this happens and that happens, Then this will happen for sure, and it always has to be for sure.
	And then if that happens for sure, then this company over here, out of the way, not even part of the scheme, will benefit big time.
	And that's what you do for a living.
	That's all you do.
	And that's what Soros does.
	He finds ways, he trades money, he does everything he can to make as much as he can with very predatory investment schemes.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C, where the C stands for Can Only Podcast for Money, Dvorak!
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning to all ships at sea.
	Boots on the ground, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	In the morning to the chat room.
	Hello!
	NoagendaStream.com.
	We now have the iOS 11 link up there if you're looking to play this show on your phone.
	And thank you, Apple, for breaking that.
	And in the morning to Cesium 137.
	Cesium 137 brought us the artwork for Episode 973.
	Title of that one, Exit on the floor.
	Thanks, Harvey.
	Very nice.
	Revolver with pills in it.
	It's kind of a variation of a theme, but as far as we can tell, pretty much original artwork.
	It was more than pretty much.
	It was original art and probably fairly original thinking.
	He seems really good at this.
	Yeah, he is.
	It's very good.
	Thank you.
	noagendaartgenerator.com.
	We really appreciate the work that all of our artists do.
	And today we also have some donations.
	Now, this was a very interesting idea you came up with.
	Well, I needed... It's really a celebration for everybody.
	And I liked it.
	We've got three shows.
	We've got today's show, we've got a Sunday show, and then next Thursday is our 10th anniversary.
	It's a big deal.
	So I decided to, in the last newsletter, I thought it would be a good idea to Bonus back our supporters with a two-for-one offer, so whatever they contribute, whatever you donate, like if you donate $100, you get credited for $200, and you get an Associate Executive Producership.
	So it's actually costing us money, but I like it anyway, because we're celebrating.
	Well, it doesn't really cost us money to add more.
	Well, it costs us time.
	Because all these executive producers we have for today's show is completely out of control.
	Everyone jumped on this great offer you've got here on the QVC.
	And so that also means that you can get a night hood for $500 for this show, the next show, and the show after.
	And that's it.
	So we got a number.
	We got one, two, three, four, five, six instant nights, which is a big deal.
	Yeah, we have had more before, but this is great.
	Yeah.
	So the point was is that anything you donate for these next three shows, you can double it for the purposes of knighthoods or producerships.
	So if you contributed 50 bucks this week, you can add 100 to your total for becoming a knight, just to move it along a little bit.
	We had a few people that took up, you know, One guy sent in $10 because he was $20 short.
	Smart money.
	Great idea.
	I think it's a fun idea for everybody.
	The so-called double tap donation.
	It's funny, on the totals, I left out...
	One of them, which I'm going to add by hand in the note to Eric.
	All right.
	Matt in South Bay is our top donor, and he's going to become a knight and an instant baronet.
	He gets upped.
	I actually have to look his email up.
	I knew I was forgetting something this morning.
	Um... No, you rebooted the router, tuned up your instruments.
	That worked fine.
	We tested, did our test read.
	Yeah.
	We didn't play the testing song, but everything else worked.
	What's the testing song?
	The testing song that we play before the show.
	Oh.
	Don't you know the testing song?
	Do you know the testing song?
	I wanna do the song.
	You ready?
	Yeah.
	Testing, testing, testing.
	Modulation.
	Testing, testing, testing.
	Testing, testing, testing.
	Okay, did you find the notes?
	Did you find the modulation?
	This is a massive note.
	He sent an email and then I had to send him back an email saying, hey, you're an instant baronet because it's a check from Chase.
	Chase is a very slow pay Really?
	Yeah, I've noticed this.
	He sent me a note over a week ago and then the check just came in.
	By the way, Chase is also one of the dumber banks.
	I don't do too much aside, we've got lots to go through here, but I'm going to do this anyway.
	When you get checks in the mail, there's a number of credit unions and all the smart banks that consolidate their checks with one service and the service sends you an envelope filled with a bunch of checks.
	Five buck checks, three buck checks, ten buck checks, hundred dollar checks.
	It's a bag of checks.
	Bag of checks.
	Chase.
	If you're going through Chase for your electronics.
	One at a time.
	Idiots.
	Each envelope separate.
	Idiots.
	It's unbelievable.
	That's because they're only focused on doing away with checks and cash.
	They're focused on everything electronic and that's a bastard stepchild.
	They're throwing away a lot of money in the process.
	It's going away.
	Anyway, Matt writes, long time boner, hopefully imminent.
	It's the night here.
	No nighting necessary.
	I'd like to remain anonymous.
	We will be nighting you, sir, Matt.
	The check is in the mail.
	Hope you enjoy the mathematical numerology.
	1123.58, which is his donation.
	$1,123.58, which I believe will be the first use of Fibonacci.
	Exactly.
	Yes, beautiful.
	I recognize it immediately.
	How did you recognize it immediately?
	I love Fibonacci.
	Fibonacci, Lucas, Jacobs, Thal.
	I love these mathematicians.
	I've become a math geek in my old age.
	Weird.
	Yes, that's how you can report on me.
	Weird.
	Weird.
	I'm really hoping to get your attention for an analysis of the Las Vegas event, which I believe is directly coordinated to a drop-off you may have seen in donations.
	Feel free to read any or all on the air with the exception of the note at the very end.
	I apologize for the length.
	Don't worry if you ignore the whole thing as I will take no offense.
	So what I'm gonna do, because of today's busyness, we're gonna put this note aside and then read it as we do final analysis of the Mandalay Massacre.
	Yeah!
	Woo!
	So we'll move him to, uh, uh, executive producer and, uh, night.
	And I did his second note did come in, which says he will be the baronet of the principality of Saratoga.
	Beautiful.
	Let me double check.
	That's on the list.
	Hmm.
	He says he figured out this guy was bitchin' about the check coming in late.
	He says the bank's mailing checks for free.
	I sent the check off last Thursday night.
	Now, wait a minute.
	Who is this?
	Of Pensacola?
	This is... No, this is just Matt of Northern California.
	Okay, I got that.
	He's the baronet of the Principality of Saratoga.
	Ah, well that's not in there.
	Hold on a second.
	No, I just got the mail this morning.
	Hold on a second.
	He says... Hold on, baronet of the what?
	Principality of Saratoga.
	Okay.
	Alright, I'm good.
	So they debit his account so they get the float.
	There's no float.
	There's not enough action anymore to make that a winning proposition.
	Anyway, I think they're just incompetent.
	Sure.
	Yes.
	Okay, onward.
	Alright, onward.
	We've got a lot to do.
	David Cox, Derby, Derbyshire.
	500.
	So he'll be in this tonight.
	Sir Jozo of Derby.
	NJNK, thank you!
	T. Humphries, Wellington, Thorndon, New Zealand.
	He wants to be Knight of the Living... Wow!
	That's a good one, isn't it?
	Knight of the Living Dead.
	Best title ever.
	Unbelievable that somebody in 10 years has never come up with Knight of the Living Dead.
	This is very good.
	Someone's going to write us saying, hey, I did that.
	Joshua Landon in Cincinnati, Ohio, 500.
	That's Tom Friesen's 500.
	Chirag Patel, Louderdale, Florida, 500.
	I don't have notes from these folks, but if I get them later, I will.
	Now, are these people being knighted because they did 500?
	Yeah, they should be.
	Okay.
	I sent Erica's notes saying we should knight these guys, but they wouldn't have done the 500 not to be knighted.
	Right, but they're not on the list.
	So put them on the list as Sirs.
	Sir Landon and Sir Patel.
	Also, Joshua Landon's not on the list.
	Yeah, I mean him too.
	Okay, keep going.
	I'll do the... David Rosa to the B-P-I-T-U-N-J-N-K.
	Thank you, but you'll be knighted as Sir Rosa.
	John Hogarty, email to follow.
	Okay, well, let's see what we have here.
	Fogarty.
	Not that unusual.
	Hogarty.
	Oh, that'd be wrong.
	Squirrel Mail does not have the AI for that.
	It doesn't.
	I know.
	It's actually slightly annoying.
	You know, that spell, misspell... You wrote a very good article about AI, and I just wanted to... You wrote a couple of good articles.
	You should try to make a living out of that.
	About AI, maybe a week or two ago.
	And you made such a good point.
	The day when they actually make an email client that understands how to weed through it and get the stuff out, that's the day that I'll believe in AI.
	And that's the most used application in the world, is email.
	And there's no AI in email.
	Ooh!
	There is an AI in email, only not real AI.
	Oh, I've come up with something.
	We've got to work on it.
	There's no AI in email.
	Ooh.
	I don't know why I like it.
	I don't know either.
	All right.
	But thank you.
	Yes.
	Since the donation he writes, David.
	Oh, hold it, Amy and John.
	He sent a donation you just received.
	The donation represents two quantities of 614 Flag Day, as well as mine and Trump's birthday.
	Birthday?
	Yeah.
	It's when's Trump's birthday?
	I have no idea.
	Well, his birthday, shout out for the both of us.
	I always get invited to have dinner with him.
	Just, I don't have to pitch in one.
	Just chip in $3.
	No, no, no, no.
	The same thing.
	$3.
	Dumb.
	$3?
	I don't get that.
	I don't get it either.
	Somebody's got to explain that to me.
	There's some research.
	Someone did some research.
	Hey, it's three times more than one.
	Can you put John Hogarty on the birthday list?
	Happy birthday.
	I love the show and the dynamics between you two.
	I've listened to it a long time, even back to daily source code days.
	He says he's a folder.
	Ah, not a scruncher.
	I'm a folder too.
	That's much better.
	Well, you should have brought that up with the... No, I actually considered it and I thought, no, I'm not going to be that guy.
	Good.
	Anyway, this donation was a long time coming.
	Additionally, ones will appear, but I just dropped $600 on Adam's Podcaster Pro campaign.
	Right.
	Well, I hope you didn't because it's closed.
	I hope you didn't.
	Oh, you got it back then.
	Is this an old?
	Just came.
	Oh, okay.
	He got the money back.
	I don't know.
	You better ask him.
	I prefer to be recognized as Hoji Hung.
	His Chinese name.
	Hold on.
	Sir Hoji Hung?
	Yeah.
	H-O-G-I Hung.
	And he, since he gave 500, he's got jingles coming if he wants them.
	And here they are.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Sir Hoji Hung.
	I just gotta write it in here.
	I hate Sir Hoji Hung.
	Yeah, you know, I have a whole segment to do later.
	Yeah, I know.
	I know.
	You're making me do work on the fly here.
	The letter just came in.
	What am I supposed to do?
	No, no, I'm not angry, but just, you know.
	Alright.
	He needs the jingles.
	Ready?
	Yeah.
	I should have given you these earlier.
	Yes, you should have.
	Yes, go.
	Zika, zika, zika.
	Whoopie.
	Get out of my vagina and don't eat me, Hillary.
	Okay, yeah, whoopee Okay, and what is the don't eat me Hillary?
	Okay, and don't eat me Hillary Okay, and the karma yeah Zika, zika, zika, zika, zika, yeah.
	Where's the money?
	1.9 billion dollars.
	Zika, zika, zika, zika, zika, yeah.
	Where's the money?
	Small heads are coming.
	You're gonna do it.
	You watch.
	We're gonna have a problem here.
	Get out of my vagina!
	Eat me, Hillary Clinton!
	You've got karma.
	All right, now we will move down.
	Those are all your instant nights.
	I want to thank each and every one of them.
	Uh, Patrick Melly in Bountiful, Bountiful, Bountiful, Utah.
	Uh, this is the, oh yeah, this is the one that, um... This is the one that is actually a make-good from last week.
	Ah, I know who this is.
	Patrick's son is, uh, he was the, he's a... Well, maybe I'm not.
	I don't know.
	You got the note?
	Yeah, I can't find the note now.
	Oh, you're kidding me.
	Yes.
	I'm not kidding.
	You had to do one thing.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	He's got a note in passing.
	OK, well, I'll tell you what, we're going to before we get to the nightings in the second half of the show, I'm going to go.
	I think the notes on the other desk, I can find it.
	So meanwhile, let's go on.
	And by the way, that's OK.
	Roy Pierce in Fort Pierce, Florida, three, three, four.
	Yes, I have the note.
	This one, this is this one's going to be on you.
	Pierce writes, I sent a note to Curry.
	Title, Mandalay Bay Security Guard.
	Set to Adam at Curry dot com.
	That's his note.
	Yes.
	Well, I read everything.
	Now, well, you have to read this note because he's a three hundred thirty four dollar donor.
	He I went and I said here on discuss the envelope.
	Roy, Roy Pierce, Roy, the envelope is that you're using the glue does not stick.
	Throw those envelopes away.
	You know, a lot of people have those.
	You buy these envelopes from Staples and you pull a little strip off.
	It's got an automatic gluing thing.
	This glue doesn't work.
	It's no good.
	This envelope was not glued together.
	It was open when it came.
	Okay.
	I have his note.
	I have his note.
	And he put together his own timeline of what happened in Vegas, which we'll be talking about.
	And this was a donation from last week, you said?
	Because that would make sense.
	Was it from last week?
	No, it's on Sunday.
	No, it's Sunday, October 15th.
	Okay, I don't know.
	He talks about the assault rifles cooking off, you know, shooting off rounds without the trigger being pulled because of the hot chamber.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so this was discussed.
	Thank you, Roy.
	Appreciate it.
	You probably gave me an idea with that, I don't know.
	Oh, I see what happened.
	Okay, you read the note already, because I remember the discussion.
	I guess.
	Okay, I get it.
	Okay, so you got your note read.
	Yeah.
	Good.
	You'll be executive producer.
	Yeah, it came in 10, 10 39 a.m.
	on Sunday.
	So yeah, I read this and we talked about it.
	Boom.
	Yes.
	Boom.
	Boom count two.
	Boom.
	Boom count three.
	Anonymous, $334.34.
	Arnis Salmons.
	Anonymous, $334.34.
	Arnis Selman's Arnis in Talon, $333.33.
	He's in the EE, which I think is Egypt or Arab Emirates.
	I don't know what EE is.
	Tallinn.
	I don't know.
	Okay, onward.
	Jacobus Bursma.
	Estonia.
	Oh, cool.
	Estonia's great.
	They're very wired in Estonia.
	I don't have a note.
	You can become a citizen, can't you, of Estonia?
	Like an electronic citizen?
	I don't know about that.
	That's kind of cool if you can.
	Jacobus Beres Borsma in Los Angeles, California.
	$233.50, which will be credited, doubled up, and you'll get knighthood achieved.
	Congratulations on 10 years of opening eyes and changing minds.
	Your influence on others can't be overstated.
	I'm honored to have enjoyed the ride from the beginning, and it was great to chat with John in New York City a few years ago.
	I'm moving to Austin in a few weeks, so perhaps a run-in with Adam.
	Wait a minute, another Californian coming here?
	Yeah, okay, fine.
	Steiner Ranch.
	Go there.
	Go there.
	Steiner Ranch.
	That's our inside joke.
	Yes.
	Moving to Austin in a few weeks, so perhaps a run-in with... Ah, get your son of a bitch a drink.
	Having a run-in on the horizon.
	I'll be in the other... I'll be the other tall Dutchman.
	Oh, okay.
	Please classically knight me as Sir Jacobus Burisma.
	Jacobus.
	Some...
	Some, uh, karma for the move and the company I started.
	Zumbi, Z-U-M-B-Y dot I-O is appreciated.
	Here's another 10 years.
	I wonder what that is.
	Zumbi dot I-O?
	Yeah.
	Alright, I'll give him some karma, absolutely.
	Whoa!
	Caught that just in time.
	You've got karma.
	Discover.
	Share.
	Learn.
	A platform for people to earn by sharing.
	Making money on sharing, I'm already all for it.
	Yeah, yeah, touchy feely.
	We should maybe we should become VC.
	Maybe we can we'd have fun with that.
	We could harass women.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah harass women.
	Make dumb decisions.
	Make dumb decisions.
	Make them sit in the lobby for hours.
	Tell everybody that you should you should think more like and fill in the blank of the hot unicorn of the day.
	We'll say unicorn a lot actually.
	We'll wear unicorn shorts.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we could do it.
	Yeah.
	Sir Mike of the Gigaverse.
	I think it's Gigaverse.
	Gigaverse, you're right.
	$222.22.
	He'll be an executive producer.
	I can't resist twofer sale on top of quality.
	People love the twofer.
	It's a twofer.
	Everyone loves a twofer.
	Yeah, they do.
	Jingle request.
	Resist we much?
	The Reverend's Bingo Boomshakalaka Remix and Korean Lady.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Resist We Much.
	Manning Boomshakalaka, right?
	Yeah, and the Korean lady screaming.
	Oh, that's funny.
	Hold on a second.
	Boomshakalaka.
	Yeah, and then Korean Lady.
	Sorry, I should have gone ahead on this one.
	Okay, here we go.
	But resist, we must.
	And a karma?
	We must.
	Yeah.
	And we will much about that be committed.
	And boom shakalaka, brother!
	You've got karma.
	I don't know.
	So Dennis Cruz, our buddy in Portland, Oregon, $201.99.
	Aha!
	Found the note listed in your last thoughts in a very smunky, funky, small italics.
	I will send an email instead.
	Okay.
	Well, we'll have to look for that.
	Natasia Holler, $200.10.
	A birthday donation on behalf of my brother Nick Holler, aka Sir Veeve of the virtual reality.
	Survive.
	Survive!
	Duh!
	Oh, crrr!
	Survive.
	Survive.
	It's like Night of the Living Dead.
	Survive of the virtual reality.
	His birthday was on Tuesday.
	He seems to always be listening to your show when I'm around.
	So supporting you seemed like a better birthday gift than video games.
	Yes, very good.
	Yeah, smart thinking.
	This is a girl that knows what she's doing.
	Yes, she'll make a fine... I have maybe listened to about four shows worth of material, so I hope I'm doing this right.
	I believe his favorite clips are...
	I hope.
	Natassia.
	This is fantastic.
	Natassia.
	Natassia.
	I love that she's... That's real sisterly love, man.
	Yeah, she doesn't say a thing much of the show.
	Well... Hug and share a secret.
	Pew pew and shut up slave.
	Maybe job competition since he is searching for an engineering job.
	Oh, there's no winning!
	We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot!
	Now everyone hug and share a secret!
	You've got karma.
	Oh, jobs karma, sorry.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	It's a twofer!
	Two for karma!
	It kind of doubled up there.
	Yeah, it's operator error.
	Bruce in Doylestown, Pennsylvania, $200, an NJNK.
	Loves what we do.
	He puts them at $1,800, which, okay, he's almost close.
	He's already a sir, so he's pushing to baronet.
	Don Mills, $200.
	Shout out to the show's favorite flight attendant, Todd Moss.
	The drinks are on him!
	Woo-hoo!
	In the morning!
	No idea.
	Ronald Beavis, 200 bucks from California somewhere.
	Sir Robert Tennant in Nagatia, Waikato, New Zealand.
	I don't know how I'm pronouncing that.
	I'm pronouncing it wrong.
	It's okay.
	Well done, guys.
	A donation when Double takes me to Baronet, which will make me match a mate from Cambodia who has a UK Baronet.
	See, he's got one from the UK.
	Courtesy of his great-grandfather.
	All the best for the show, Sir Robert.
	Soon-to-be Sir Robert Tennant.
	B-T.
	I guess you can put that at the end.
	It's like a comma with a small... Right.
	Capital B, small T. Got it.
	We keep... Okay, and that's... He gets credit for... Actually, he's... Yeah, he's over the line for executive producer.
	This is executive producer.
	These are all exec... This, by the way, I'm gonna warn people here in this, affiliates.
	This is a long read we've got because this is everything is doubled up.
	So we're going to read all the executive producers and associate executives.
	When we get to the second half where we read just there's not going to be very many left.
	Right.
	So it's going to be a short read for that.
	Colton Robinson, 159.76.
	He's been listening to the show since the freshman of high school around show 300, and I've dreamed of the day I could become a knight.
	Now being a senior in college, the show can finally say that I am.
	With this donation and your generous doubling, I will become a knight!
	The show's become a necessity as it kept me from becoming a noodle boy or an SJW millennial, right?
	Right?
	With that said, keep up the great work and here's to another 10 years of the best production, one of the best productions in the universe.
	For my jingles, can I have a classic WTC7 and a long ant song at the end of the show?
	Ah yes, perfect for today.
	WTC7 won't go away!
	And he'll be credited with $318, $319 actually.
	Spencer Sumner in Calgary, Alberta, $154.50.
	I couldn't resist the double contributions after offer advertised in the latest newsletter.
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	I have since completed a Bachelor of Arts in History and I can truly say that no agenda changed my life for the better.
	to read slower.
	Completed a Bachelor of Arts in History, and I can truly say that no agenda changed my life for the better.
	Instead of being a typical hill-bought millennial, I was quoting the Wes Clark Seven on a political science exam.
	Ah.
	Uh...
	Beautiful.
	The professor didn't like that very much.
	Really?
	Why?
	Really, why not?
	Why not?
	Well, let's play it.
	Let's play it right now.
	Wesley Clark.
	So, I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan.
	I said, are we still going to war with Iraq?
	And he said, oh, it's worse than that.
	He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper, he said, I just...
	He said, I just got this down from upstairs, meeting the Secretary of Defense's office today, and he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years.
	Starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran.
	Yeah, don't be mentioning that.
	What was Wes Clark again?
	He was general, correct?
	General Wes Clark?
	Yeah, he was general.
	He ran for president.
	He had, kind of, he looked to me, I've always believed he's an alien.
	He got these big, giant, black eyeballs.
	But nobody else, you know, and he was, I don't know why he never got further.
	Maybe the alien thing got in the way.
	Maybe the alien thing, or this, this, this This commentary that should have been kept off the books.
	Yeah, that was probably a problem.
	Courtney Vandenberg.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Now we're in the 150s?
	Yeah.
	Oh, geez.
	Oh, OK.
	I got it.
	Yes, I understand.
	These are still all executive producers.
	Crazy town.
	Love it.
	You're going to have a distant page of the listing of credits.
	It has to be an addendum.
	Currently Vandenberg, but everybody gets credit.
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	All the best.
	Thank you, CJ.
	He has an extra cent for each of us.
	Oh, beautiful.
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	Got it.
	Joseph Brent Stokes, 150.
	Now, the 150s were specifically designed to get you an executive producer ship cheap.
	David Fugazotto, 150.
	I'm going to name some of them.
	I'll just name 150s.
	David Chaney in Dallas, Texas.
	The show just keeps getting better.
	He wants to put some jingles at the end with some karma.
	Sir David Pugh in Massillon, Ohio.
	These are all executive producers.
	John Aiken.
	Pew pew pew.
	He says my bad.
	He says I haven't donated in a while.
	My bad!
	How about some pew pews for Sir David Pew?
	Pew pew!
	Sir Josh Mandel, 150.
	Stanley Jones, Sykestown, Maryland.
	Did you get Aiken?
	John Aiken?
	Did you do him?
	John Aiken, 150.
	Congratulations on the milestone.
	Uh, good.
	Stanley Jones in Sykestown, Missouri is the last guy.
	And then we go to Anonymous 150, who's going to be the executive producers.
	And he says to all the boners and douchebags out there, just put something in the pot.
	It's good for your mind and these guys need to eat.
	Also, Adam, I'm in Austin next week.
	If you want a beer, let me know.
	How about that?
	I may be traveling next week.
	Bruce Schwalman, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.
	It's 100, so he'll be an associate executive producer.
	And we'll, these are all the associate executive producers we're going to name them one by one.
	Dame Karen in Colorado Springs, Colorado, 101.
	And she says, NJNK, thank you for that.
	Daniel Osterlund in White Bear Lake, Minnesota.
	Nuts, 10101.
	Long-time listener since 2008.
	He says, all these years is still the best podcast in the universe.
	My wife and I are in desperate need of some house buying karma.
	Can you spare some?
	Yeah, you can.
	Your associate executive will give you some right now.
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	Don't mind.
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	Oliver Yates.
	Parts Unknown.
	He's in Great Britain.
	Is he in Great Britain?
	Looks like it.
	Please, what more can I say about value for value people?
	I request any Italian clips.
	It's been too long, and a goat.
	Okay.
	That was the Italian goat, so it's a twofer.
	Perfect.
	Uh, K... Oh, K-nonimous is in with $100.
	Oh, nice.
	Uh, Wilhelm Martins is $100.
	Gabe Shabazian in San Francisco, California.
	This puts him in the knighthood.
	$100.
	Christopher O'Brien, $100.
	James Callahan, $100.
	Sir Brian Ferguson, Baron of Costa Meca.
	Costa Mesa, $100.
	Hi from the Baron of Costa Meca.
	Been a long time.
	Okay, so that's our group of executives.
	Our executive and associate executive producers are showing 974.
	Our producerships are so insane we're practically giving it away!
	I would do my crazy Eddie.
	Now, I did skip one because it came in late and I'm going to push it to the next show, which is... I just want to make sure that he knows it got in, which is sort of anonymous of Dogpatch.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Because you hit the note somewhere else, I presume.
	Uh, you got the note?
	No, I have the note right in front of me.
	Okay.
	We'll, we'll push it to the next show.
	It's perfect.
	This, this is, oh, wait a minute.
	You know, I was talking about that.
	I did push that other note.
	I was talking about, uh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	I pushed, I put the note exactly where I should have put it.
	This is, uh, Patrick Mealy in Bountiful, Utah, who's, who's, who's, this is the note from earlier in the show.
	I'm going to read it now and then we're done.
	He says, a $33 a month donor, but my bank had cut off payments last September.
	No reason given.
	They just stopped sending you checks.
	This is a makeup donation.
	This is a $333.39, I think, for the last 12 months of missed payments.
	Coincidentally, the bank cut off my donations right after I made enough layaway payments for my first knighthood.
	Well, actually, it's automatically cut off after you get to $1,000 with the layaway.
	So it's part of the...
	If you click the right link, that's what happens.
	I would like to gift this knighthood to my son, Gage, in honor of him achieving, he's on the list, of achieving the rank of Eagle Scout!
	That's a big deal.
	That's not easy to do.
	Yes, I was a scout in our whole troop and I think the whole area we had one.
	Doesn't the Eagle Scout get like a letter from the president even?
	I have no idea what he gets, but I'm telling you, it's not easy to do.
	It's also, you have to be dedicated.
	And you have to be talented.
	There's a lot of talent involved in these things.
	When you go for your Eagle Scout, do they have a talent portion and a question portion?
	Generally, they have modern dance is what the talent tends to be.
	It's also a late birthday present.
	He turned 18 in September and became a full-grown human.
	Gage hasn't been forced to listen to the podcast for a couple of years.
	Oh, he hasn't been?
	Okay.
	Ever since he got his driver's license, but when he was forced to listen, he was taken by the idea of one day becoming a knight.
	He said, wait, is that real?
	I said, hell yeah.
	He said, we should get one of those.
	It's Gage.
	He collects honor badges.
	Oh, okay.
	Also credit Gage with the producer credit so he can enlist it on his college application for extracurricular activity.
	We can do that.
	For Gage, please play the numbers medley 999, which Gage used to use as an alarm clock ringtone for several months.
	6969, which is Gage's favorite bowling score.
	Oh, that's an insult.
	And 33 is the magic number, which is a score that Gage attained on his ACT.
	Okay, wait a minute.
	So we have 999.
	Yeah.
	And what was the second one?
	What, 69?
	69, dudes?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, do I still have that?
	Yes, I do have that.
	Okay, and a 33.
	And a karma, here we go!
	We got karma.
	69, 69.
	And for everybody out there, it's pronounced Mee-lee.
	Gage Mee-lee, Patrick Mee-lee.
	And they're in bountiful Utah.
	That means they are, they go out there.
	Beautiful.
	Apparently hunting and fishing.
	I want to thank them and everybody that contributed to this fantastic show of support.
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	Thank you very much, and we'll be thanking more people in our second donation segment, which I think will be a little bit shorter.
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	And we will do another show for you on Sunday, so you can remember us for the twofer special promotion ad.
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	Our formula is this.
	We go out, We hit people in the mouth.
	I'm going crazy in the control room.
	Yeah, I would say.
	Let's do a little Vegas update.
	Sounds good.
	You got one?
	Yeah, I see you got one.
	I got a couple, I do.
	In fact, I have the update update.
	The update update?
	You know, that means it's the latest from CBS.
	More than two weeks after the Las Vegas massacre that left 58 dead, 14 of the wounded remain in hospitals, three in critical condition.
	Jamie Ucas reports the first person shot that night, a Mandalay Bay hotel security guard, has finally told his story to Ellen DeGeneres.
	As I was walking down, I heard a rapid fire.
	A routine door check turned to terror for Jesus Campos.
	It happened moments after he arrived on the 32nd floor, when he noticed something unusual about a stairwell door.
	There was a metal bracket holding the door in place.
	When you saw that, did you think, that's weird, why would somebody put brackets on a door?
	Yeah, that's just out of the ordinary.
	Campos took a different route back to the hallway, and then radioed a maintenance engineer to check the bracketed door.
	Moments later, Steven Paddock opened fire.
	I felt the burning sensation.
	I went to go lift my pant leg up, and I saw the blood.
	That's when I called it in on my radio that shots have been fired.
	And I was going to say that I was hit, but I got all over my cell phone just to clear that radio traffic for they can coordinate the rest of the call.
	Campos took cover, and then some maintenance workers, Steve and Chuck, get off the elevator.
	Take cover, take cover, and yelled at me.
	And within milliseconds, if he didn't say that, I would have got hit.
	We also learned that a female guest came out a hotel room door and Campos immediately told her to take cover.
	Many believe Campos diverted the gunman's attention before Paddock killed 58 people.
	Campos believes a slamming door alerted the shooter to his whereabouts.
	He did not clarify any of the details of the changing timeline of the shooting, including whether Mandalay Bay did in fact call police that night.
	Anthony, he says this is his one and only interview.
	Still a lot of unanswered questions, Jamie Ucas, thanks.
	When we... Um, yeah, there's a lot to talk about here, and before we get into it, I thought, personally, that the context of the interview was extremely important.
	I watched it, I have the full interview, and I think we should actually deconstruct it, because this was the most scripted, the most orchestrated, the most bullcrap Piece of television I have seen in lying history.
	I mean, these guys, it's like the FBI even dressed them.
	Did you see what they were wearing?
	Yeah.
	They were wearing FBI costumes.
	FBI suits.
	Yeah.
	I mean, there's no doubt about it.
	The guy on the left, I don't know who he is.
	Yeah, he's the mechanic.
	This guy is Compose Handler.
	Yeah.
	No doubt about it.
	Why is he there at all?
	Now, why Ellen?
	Yeah, why does he keep tapping?
	He keeps touching the guy.
	Yeah, because he's his handler.
	He's his handler.
	Yes, he's his handler.
	Yeah, so he touches him because it triggers him.
	He's been hypnotized and he touches him.
	So why Ellen?
	I know why.
	Oh, well, this is good.
	Before you say why Ellen, I thought it was peculiar too.
	Of course it's peculiar.
	Before you answer why, I'm going to say this.
	Whatever the reason, I want to hire her booker.
	Anyway, go on.
	Yeah, see, that is what Tina said.
	She said, holy crap, what a get!
	I'm like, hold on.
	She hadn't seen it yet.
	I said, wait, you got to see it.
	And from the minute she saw these two jabronis, jamokes, she knew it was off.
	Jamokes is a great name.
	Jamokes.
	Ellen has a business relationship with MGM who owns Mandalay Bay.
	She has her own slot machines in the hotels.
	That's why she was chosen.
	She was chosen.
	You can't book that.
	What, 60 Minutes wasn't competing?
	ABC World News Tonight?
	You're right.
	You cannot book this.
	She was chosen.
	She was chosen.
	But she wasn't just chosen because of her relationship with MGM.
	She was chosen because she could do the Do this bit.
	Scripted bit.
	And she wouldn't complain.
	She did it better than anybody else.
	Softer than anybody else.
	They could trust her because she works for MGM.
	So she's not going to go off script like that woman did on The View that got her fired.
	Remember that?
	We had the clip of this woman.
	She asked some questions that was not on the script.
	Yeah.
	So she's not going to do any of that.
	She's going to.
	And the thing that really got me is she pulls out a like a diagram and then she has a pointer.
	Let's run through it.
	With this premise in mind, I mean, there's no way that, I mean, I don't see why people in the news media don't say, wow, this stinks to high heaven, particularly the relationship between her and MGM.
	This is a news story in itself.
	And I'm going to stop you right there because I did the three by three.
	None of the networks questioned the viability or the rationale or anything about this.
	They just said he was on.
	In fact, the last report, which is when CBS said this will be his last, first and last interview, never questioning the venue.
	Never questioning.
	Now, I know why they want to control it.
	I mean, they're not in on killing people.
	They don't want the liability.
	I completely understand that.
	But, you know, even without that, A guy like this would not appear anywhere without his lawyer.
	I mean, that's... I mean, there's so much so wrong.
	Let's get into the interview.
	We have to stop this along the way because it was... I mean, it's just insane.
	Thank you both for being here.
	And first of all, how are you both doing?
	I'm doing better each day.
	Slowly but surely, just healing physically and mentally.
	Yeah, I imagine.
	I imagine that you relive that a lot.
	These are all questions.
	These are all scripted questions.
	It's so clear.
	Yeah.
	And how are you doing, Steven?
	It's definitely hard.
	As each day passes, though, we're working to get over this.
	Okay.
	So... Okay.
	Now on to the next question.
	So you're the security officer, and you were called to check on a door that was... I guess when a door is left open for a certain amount of time, you're supposed to go check on it, right?
	Yes.
	We get notifications, making sure that Uh, to secure them or if they were already been secured, just making that, uh.
	That check on the doors.
	Okay, so you were going up the fire escape.
	He's leading the witness, you think?
	I mean, he's not telling the story.
	Ellen's telling the story, and all he has to say is yes, right?
	Almost most of the questions are leading the witness.
	Yeah, right?
	That's all that's missing is that she says right.
	So you were going up the fire escape to get there?
	Via the stairwell.
	I was coming from the 31st up to the 32nd.
	Right.
	When I approached the door, it didn't open.
	Now, wait a minute.
	He went up to check on a door that was open, but then the door wasn't open, so... No, no, he... No.
	No, I know what he's saying.
	Okay, what is he saying?
	It's right.
	It's correct.
	Alright, alright.
	He went out the stairwell, and that's the door that was locked shut.
	Okay.
	It was blocked off, so I had to reroute.
	Is that a normal thing that the door at the stairwell would be blocked off?
	Is that a normal thing?
	No, they're always supposed to remain open.
	Right.
	And so, after I would drop down, and then came back through the hallway, and then I approached the room, got into the door, Uh, there was a metal bracket holding the door in place.
	Right.
	So what we're talking about here, just so everybody's clear.
	Now she pulls out this, this, it almost, I couldn't tell if it was a 3D, it almost looked like it was 3D.
	It was.
	Yeah.
	It was a model.
	It was an actual model with, with raised.
	No, no, it wasn't a model.
	It was a drawing.
	Oh, it looked like.
	And she had this huge.
	No, it was done in 3D perspective.
	Yeah.
	And she had this telescopic pointer that she pulls out and she's pointing.
	That's what got me.
	Like she's showing the glove was here and this is where Nicole, oh wait a minute, I'm sorry, wrong script.
	Okay, so this is where the hotel room was, where the shooter was.
	This is the stairway, and this door here was blocked.
	Is she Nancy Drew all of a sudden?
	I mean, this was really, this was insane.
	I've never seen this done this way.
	I mean, it's like the hotel delivered a whole package.
	Here you go, and here's your little 3D modeling, and here's your pointer, even.
	I didn't know that until you came up through the elevator and went through this door and saw that there was something blocking that door.
	That's correct.
	And when you saw that, did you think, that's weird, why would somebody put brackets on a door?
	Yeah, that's just out of the ordinary.
	Yeah, that would be like bread alert for me.
	It's like someone's barricaded themselves in, or there's brackets on the door.
	Yeah, I would be on the walkie-talkie right away.
	That's the beginning.
	Yeah.
	Okay, and then you walk out of this, and this just slammed?
	Well, when I was in between that area, I was calling security dispatch to get transferred to engineering.
	They didn't know anything about it, so they dispatched an engineer to go verify what that was.
	That's when you got called?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And at that time, I heard what I assumed it was drilling sounds.
	And I believe that they were in the area working somehow.
	So you thought they were gunshots, but you thought it was just drilling sounds?
	At first, I think it was just drilling sounds.
	Right.
	So then, at what point did you get shot?
	What happens here?
	As that door's closing, and it's so heavy, it'll slam.
	I'm walking down this way.
	And I believe that's what caught the shooter's attention.
	As I was walking down, I heard rapid fire.
	And at first, I took cover.
	I felt the burning sensation.
	I went to go lift my pant leg up and I saw the blood.
	That's when I called it in on my radio that shots have been fired.
	And I was going to say that I was hit, but I got all over my cell phone just to clear that radio traffic.
	Okay, I don't believe this.
	I don't know why, but this is an important part of the narrative, is him giving an explanation why he didn't call on the radio that he was shot.
	But he used his cell phone because he wanted to keep radio traffic clear?
	There's something about that that doesn't make sense, and I'm not sure why it has to be said.
	Well, there's some reason it has to be said.
	Well, the reason it has to be said is for the timeline.
	No, it's because they don't have a recording because either this never happened or it happened and he maybe didn't have a radio and they said, well, we have to make him look like he had a radio.
	There's a lot of reasons that it has to be said, but it is bullcrap.
	That's for sure.
	Yes.
	Thank you.
	If he has a radio, maybe he doesn't have a radio.
	Maybe they're cheap.
	But if he has a radio, you're right.
	That's the first thing he'd do, and it would go on to the recording.
	Well, no, he said, shots fired, and then, but then he got hit, and instead of saying, I'm hit, he's like, hold on, let me get my cell phone.
	Okay, let me see.
	Okay, right.
	You know, oh, hey, I was hit.
	Nah, come on.
	There's something amiss.
	Yeah.
	On my radio that shots have been fired.
	And I was gonna say that I was hit, but I got all over my cell phone just to clear that radio traffic for... Yeah, this is a really, really, really sketchy thing to say.
	I don't like it.
	...over my cell phone just to clear that radio traffic for... They can coordinate the rest of the call.
	So he shot, you didn't even know, he shot through this door, right?
	Yeah, from behind the door.
	I didn't know how he was shooting, but he shot out.
	Right, so you didn't even know it was coming from here.
	So Steven, at this point, so you're called up, you just think that you're coming to look at a door that's been blocked in the firewall, right?
	Yeah, I didn't think anything out of the ordinary at the time.
	I came from a higher floor and came down a different hallway, a service elevator.
	And I walked out, and I rounded the corner for the 100 Hallway, and that's when I, you know, it was quiet at this time.
	And the doors are set back, as you can see in that, about a foot.
	And Jesus was towards the end of the hallway, but I didn't know at that time.
	I thought I saw someone.
	Uh, like, pop out of the cubby.
	And I kept walking and, you know, once I got more than halfway is when I saw Jesus and I started to hear shooting.
	And I thought, at the time I didn't know it was shooting, I thought it was a jackhammer.
	And, you know, as an engineer, I'm like, we're not, we're not working up here this late at night.
	We wouldn't be doing that.
	Right.
	And it was, I believe, outside.
	It wasn't in the hallway yet.
	And that's when Jesus, he leaned out and he said, take cover, take cover, and yelled at me.
	And within milliseconds, if he didn't say that, I would have got hit.
	Because he was still shooting.
	So you would have been hit had he not told you.
	Yeah, I wasn't even fully in cover.
	Nice setup.
	Nice setup for Ellen.
	This is exactly what was scripted, and there's a reason for her saying all this.
	Passing behind my head, and I could feel the pressure.
	You could feel the pressure going past you, just even being out of the way.
	Yes.
	And we're like...
	The pressure of what, the rounds?
	The bullet flying back.
	I wonder, I guess that's true.
	I don't know, I've never been shot at.
	I could feel the pressure.
	You could feel the pressure going past you, just even being out of the way.
	And were guests coming out of the doorways?
	There was a female that came out and I told her to go back inside, it wasn't safe.
	Shortly after... Remember, Alan set the question up.
	That's when Steven was approaching.
	And I told him to stay back and get cover.
	And that's when more rounds were dispersed.
	Right.
	Wow.
	So, I mean, really, he saved your life.
	And he saved also the woman that came out of the door to the hallway.
	I know, first of all, you know, thank you so much for being here.
	And I know that you've had so many people asking for you to tell the story and to talk about this.
	And I understand your reluctance because you just want this to be over.
	So you're talking about it now and then you're not going to talk about it again.
	and I don't blame you because why we...
	Ha ha ha ha.
	Just so you know, other bookers, you're talking about it and you're never going to talk about it again.
	Right?
	I mean, come on.
	This is so insulting.
	It's pretty insulting to the news community.
	Yeah.
	Especially the TV people.
	They should be beside themselves.
	They should be calling this out for what it is, but they're pussies.
	That's exactly right.
	They should be calling out.
	It's because of the sensitivity and all the rest of it because they're, you know, harping on Trump.
	Yeah, but it's okay to talk about, you know, some context of what the president did or did not say to a woman whose son was blown up.
	It's okay to rehash that and put on gold star parents everywhere.
	I'm disgusted by it.
	I'm so disgusted.
	Yeah, that's okay, but you can't call out this.
	And not only that, but if I'm not mistaken, Ellen is a syndicated show.
	I don't think it's syndicated by the networks.
	I could be wrong.
	It could be like CBS.
	I'll look it up.
	But as far as I know, it's not network associated.
	I could be wrong.
	It's to be over.
	So you're talking about it now and then you're not going to talk about it again.
	And I don't blame you because why relive this over and over again, but it's helpful for people to understand what a hero you are because you We have to bring in the hero meme.
	We have to bring it back.
	You see, now we're back to square one.
	He's a hero.
	Being shot in the leg saved so many people's lives.
	And instead of you just getting out of there, you saved Steven's life, you saved that woman's life, and who knows how many other people.
	And so we just wanted to celebrate you.
	That's why you're here today.
	Thank you.
	Because we want to thank you for what you've done.
	Even after this happened, instead of going to the hospital, you stayed to help the police and give them all the information they needed to put these things together.
	And also, what else did you want to mention?
	I just want to mention all the people that assisted that night, whether it was Metro, the FBI, the community especially coming together to help everyone in need, the first responders, even the people that got called in to assist in the hospitals, and just everything is, puts pieces together on how everyone came together to help that night, even in the darkest hour.
	Yes, there were a lot of people that showed up to help.
	Alright, and Stephen?
	Definitely, I want to thank the first responders and people on the ground at the show helping each other out.
	I mean, I think the acts of humanity were major that night.
	And I want to thank Jesus again, from my family and all my friends and everybody for saving my life.
	Yep.
	That's great.
	And now they take it to a whole other level.
	I don't know if you're taking all that in, and I know, like you said, it's hard, you think about that a lot, and you did, you saved people's lives.
	And we of course wanted to give you money, we wanted to, and you both were- I was thinking, car, give him a car, give him a car, car, car, car, car.
	A new Chevrolet!
	Very, very specific, you said you don't want money, you don't want money at all, so you're not getting any money, alright?
	We're not going to give you money.
	But Stephen, your favorite team is the Colts, and you've never been to a game, so the NFL is flying you to meet the team and get VIP tickets.
	Nice, nice little NFL tie-in.
	Nice.
	Always opportunity.
	And then also, it's over here.
	Okay, also, you're a fan of the Oakland Raiders and Shutterfly is going to give you season tickets when the team goes to Las Vegas.
	Shutterfly?
	It's a different advertiser.
	First it's NFL and then it's Shutterfly.
	What does Shutterfly do?
	Don't they make cups with your pictures on it or something like that?
	Also, we know it's really important for you too that everyone is recognized.
	So Shutterfly cares about supporting communities.
	So it's going to make a donation of $25,000 in your name to the GoFundMe page that's dedicated to helping victims of the shooting.
	So for more information on how you can help the victims of Las Vegas shooting, go to our website. - And so the guy's looking at that, you know, they bring out the big ass check, the giant check.
	Oh, yeah, right.
	And it's going right in front of his nose.
	He's like, there was no response, no reaction, no nothing.
	All I could think was either he got a lot more than that check or he's like, I'm an idiot.
	I'm a dumbo.
	You're going to jail if you don't do this.
	Yeah.
	I mean, there's always that.
	Now, Ellen's show is syndicated by very good production, TelePictures and Scripps and WAD.
	There's no network affiliation whatsoever with this show, and all the distribution is done by Warner Brothers.
	Yeah, but so there's no, so the connection here is very strange.
	I think you'd nail it as an MGM connection.
	Yeah.
	And the networks are completely shut out of this.
	And they should be yelling for access to this guy.
	Are you kidding me?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, he's just going to tell a story once and that's it.
	Whoa.
	Yeah.
	Just, I mean, we are being gypped.
	There has to be a huge amount of money, hush money.
	Yeah.
	Pay to this guy to keep him from doing any other interviews because you don't and Ellen should be ashamed of herself for making that comment that you're not going to talk to anybody else.
	She's just part of the hush money deal.
	Yeah, I'm sure she got paid to one way or the other.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, this is this is really disgusting and not so much that Ellen did that.
	I get it.
	I get the corporate interest.
	I understand that.
	I see right through it.
	I think a lot of people saw right through it, but that the journals are avoiding this is, I mean, they jump into anything they can, but not this one.
	And what a story.
	What a story.
	It's baffling.
	It's just baffling.
	Now there's one other clip I have.
	It may be a little hard to hear on the, uh, I want to mention one.
	One of the things is we're still analyzing that last clip.
	Okay.
	Generally speaking, from my experience, I could be wrong about the MGM, but from my experience, once you get into that fire exit well, he's coming up from the bottom floor to go into the next floor, taking the shortcut.
	My experience in those fire exit wells is that they're locked.
	And if you get into one and the door closes behind you, you literally have to walk all the way down.
	Yeah, but you'd think he would have the key.
	But there's no keys.
	I've never seen a key.
	It's not a keyed lock.
	It's just a door that's closed.
	And with no handle or any way of getting it open.
	So I don't know what that's all about.
	Maybe they have a different system.
	Maybe somebody who's staying there in the next few days could go into the well and check it out and see if it's... because otherwise people would be sneaking around in the well because there's not a lot of cameras there.
	Whenever someone brings out the 3D model and is telling me what happened, I'm skeptical.
	We have no evidence.
	We got no proof.
	We got no tapes.
	We got no nothing.
	We got no nothing.
	Yeah.
	So, you know, there's nothing left to do other than deconstruct media, which is what this is.
	And they're doing it.
	All we get to deconstruct is the Ellen Show.
	Are you kidding me?
	That's what we're stuck with?
	Because these guys can't do or won't do or have been prevented from doing their job?
	Won't do.
	Won't do is what it's about.
	I think prevented.
	Well, from one of the most recent press conferences given by the elected sheriff of Clark County, who we're still reading from the narrative, he was asked a question, and I've boosted the audio.
	You may not be able to hear it.
	There is, of course, the video version in the show notes.
	There's a reporter that asks about his car, and I believe if it was wired to blow up.
	What I want you to do is give Aaron Rouse the opportunity to talk about Mary Lou.
	He may not have anything for you, okay?
	But I think it's fair for you to ask him.
	And then I would like to get to Senator Heller and Commissioner Sysleck.
	You probably can't hear it.
	You really have to strain.
	I hear the guy yelling car.
	Right.
	And then, off mic, someone says to the sheriff, don't go there.
	Really?
	Yeah, listen again.
	Don't go there.
	It's very loud.
	Oh yeah, yeah.
	Don't go there.
	It was right there at the end.
	Yeah, here it is again.
	Now, the vid, the shot of the video, it, half, like, only the right-hand corner of the FBI agent's mouth is in there, and he's blocking the guy behind him.
	I don't know if it came from the right of him or the left of him, but, and sounds like a male voice.
	Don't go there.
	Yeah, definitely a male voice.
	Yeah, don't go there.
	So, you know, why not?
	And this is, this is evident.
	This is, this is obviously on, you know, the tape.
	This is something that said that we need to talk.
	I mean, where, anyway.
	So maybe, uh, maybe everyone thinks it's just normal.
	I don't.
	Don't go there.
	Don't go there.
	Yeah.
	This is very, very bothersome.
	The whole thing is bothersome.
	Yeah.
	I can see why you'd think that.
	And that bothers me too.
	I don't know why, why, why can't you talk about the car?
	What's changed?
	We already talked about the car once.
	It was loaded with explosives and they had a thousand rounds.
	That's what I remember.
	What else is there going on?
	Don't go there.
	I'm just going to keep saying that.
	Don't go there.
	All the time.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like Peter Griffin.
	Yeah.
	Uh, okay.
	Anything else on Vegas?
	Let me see if I had something in the notes.
	Let's see, well of course we have the Vegas shooting survivor who was a... Let's see, she ran a charity and she died.
	It sucks when people... We had an extra death, I didn't know that.
	Yeah, but she didn't die from wounds.
	Oh, she just, that's right, she just died.
	Yeah, in her sleep, I think.
	It's always horrible when that happens.
	Oh, well.
	All right, well, we can move on to a couple of things.
	I got, I do have a health, another one of these, this is an ABC presentation on the health care.
	Apparently, this is a kind of an ironic clip because they're talking about Trump whipsawing on the help.
	But we have our own, the term whipsaw means something on the show.
	And within this clip, there's a whipsaw.
	Explain the whipsaw.
	The whipsaw is where you say, and the worst thing that happened is that they all agreed that the Messerschmitt should have been shot down and then they come up with a clip that is supposed to confirm what you just said as evidence.
	And the clip doesn't confirm anything.
	Can we turn some random clip?
	I'm sorry.
	To make you think you've got the clip, but you've got nothing.
	And this is about, uh... This is the worst case scenario for this, and I actually end it after the whipsaw clip.
	Uh, this is part one.
	Part two we can play later.
	I mean, right afterwards.
	But this is Healthcare Update with a whipsaw, with a whipsaw.
	One.
	Okay, we turn next here tonight to the healthcare whiplash.
	The president says whiplash.
	Sorry, whiplash.
	Oh.
	Okay, we turn next here tonight.
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	Advertising.
	We turn next here tonight to the health care whiplash.
	The president slashing $7 billion in subsidies meant to help working-class families afford their insurance.
	Then last night, supporting a bipartisan plan to save those subsidies for now.
	But tonight, it turns out, he's now against it.
	So what's going on here?
	Here's ABC's Mary Bruce.
	It was just a week ago when the president launched a crusade to dismantle Obamacare piece by piece.
	Then that late night bombshell.
	The president cutting off $7 billion in subsidies that help lower income Americans.
	People who make too much to qualify for Medicaid, but still need help affording coverage.
	But the president argued they were a bailout for insurers.
	People will have great, great healthcare.
	Great whipsaw clip.
	Just throw something in there.
	It was a bailout for insurers and then they play that?
	Just a random Trump clip?
	Yeah, just throw anything in there.
	They should just throw in the Prime Minister question time.
	Order!
	Just for no reason.
	Why don't they have some guy singing a song using his armpit to make a pooping sound?
	I mean, the same thing.
	Alright, what's in two?
	Okay, let's kind of just wrap up the story.
	People will have great, great health care.
	On the Hill, a deal was already in the works.
	Late yesterday, an agreement to extend the payments another two years.
	The president, optimistic.
	The solution will be for about a year or two years.
	This morning, the senator behind the deal praised the president for getting the ball rolling.
	I give him full credit for engineering this bipartisan agreement.
	But just minutes later, the president tweeting, I am supportive of Lamar as a person and also of the process, but I can never support bailing out insurance companies who have made a fortune with Obamacare.
	Mary's live on the Hill tonight, and the President this evening saying he's still hoping for a bigger fix to overhaul Obamacare.
	But Mary, some studies actually show that cutting billions in subsidies could actually add to the deficit.
	Yeah, David, while the President and lawmakers continue to debate without these subsidies, the federal deficit is projected to increase by nearly $200 billion, and premiums for millions could rise.
	David?
	Mary Bruce with us again tonight.
	Now this little ending here.
	Apparently, if you don't spend this $7 billion for these subsidies, the deficit is going to go up by $200 billion.
	Amazing!
	How does that work?
	How does that even work?
	There's no rationale for it.
	It makes zero sense.
	And these things are rarely ever right.
	If you go back and look at all of the OMB reports and all the community... Yeah, the British economy is going to collapse after Brexit.
	Yeah.
	The stock market is going to collapse after Trump gets elected.
	Yeah.
	And we hear these things all the time, but the logic of this little thing at the end is ditty and every network is saying it without explanation.
	They're not explaining it.
	And the data comes from who?
	I don't know, maybe.
	It's hard to tell.
	Because I think they're just taking whatever they can and they're...
	Finagling it and stuffing it into a phony box and presenting it as fact.
	If you don't spend $7 billion, it's going to cost you $200.
	Here it is.
	This is from The Hill.
	A new study says adding $200 billion to the Senate Obamacare replacement bill would not be enough to fund private coverage.
	Oh, I see.
	I see what they're saying.
	So you take the $7... How much was it?
	$7 billion.
	$7 billion away.
	And that is then being replaced by $200 billion?
	Maybe it's coming from our new tax plan, which Steve Mnuchin was on with the money, honey.
	I like her interviews, Maria Bartiromo.
	She's a good interviewer.
	Yeah.
	And Mnuchin is completely tick-free.
	I watched quite intently.
	I don't know how he did it.
	Man, he was a tick heaven.
	He was a Tourette's hero.
	Drugs.
	Yeah, but what drugs?
	I wouldn't mind having him when I need to do an appearance somewhere.
	You know, twitching, and then I'm gonna take my drugs and it'll all be over.
	Uh, and there was a little interesting, uh, ditty in here about, uh, which I did not realize is, uh, a part of the planet.
	Yeah, about this.
	Hmm?
	He's been replaced with a clone.
	Dude.
	Have you, uh, dude, have you seen... Dude!
	Dude, have you... Dude!
	Dude, have you seen the Melania double?
	This is crazy.
	Now, we've always suggested, and I think believed, that there are body doubles for the president.
	Obama totally- Well, we know there's one for Hillary.
	We know there's one for Hillary.
	We think there's one for Trump, but- and Obama certainly had one- but maybe not Donald Trump, Melania Trump.
	There are pictures.
	It's a different woman.
	Who was with her.
	And whenever you see the big glasses and the hair kind of, you know, a little bit, the bangs hanging down and kind of obfuscating her face a little bit.
	It's not Melania.
	It is a different woman.
	Hands down.
	I show these pictures to different women.
	Oh, you got to send me some links.
	I want to check this out.
	And I want to, you know, people think this is kind of nutty, but I want to point people to a incident that happened in the opening NBA game with the Warriors.
	Where they had one of the players, a very distinctive looking guy named Clay Thompson, famous three-point shooter.
	There was a Clay Thompson lookalike in the audience wearing his jersey, same haircut, same goatee, same everything.
	And you have to look this up on the net just to see it.
	This guy, especially when he's in motion, they could have killed Clay Thompson and put him in and no one would know the difference.
	The guy was an unbelievable dead ringer.
	There are people That are genotypes that are very easy to, you know, that you can make copies of or find somebody that looks exactly like them because they look exactly like them.
	So this, none of this ever surprises me.
	Well, you can just, you can just do a Bing search right now.
	You can Bing it and, uh, and do Melania double and you'll see the pictures immediately.
	It's not.
	I don't want to use Bing.
	Okay.
	Duck, duck, go.
	It's, it's really, it's really clear.
	It's very clear.
	Yeah, do that right now.
	What was the search term you used?
	Melania double.
	How about that?
	I mean, I'm just, just going off the cuff here.
	You're really putting it out there.
	I know.
	How about, are you at startpage.com yet?
	Do you have your own Yahoo portal with links to, like, Squirrel Mail?
	Squirrel Mail would have a search engine.
	Oh, this doesn't even look like her.
	Yeah, but that's what I'm- Big nose.
	Whole different mouth.
	The mouth is totally- is downturned.
	It's not the same mouth.
	Eyebrows are the same.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, the general features, but, you know, that's why the big glasses.
	Yeah, her eyes must be way off.
	Yeah, here she is with Trump, the phony one.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, come on.
	She's probably said, hey, I'm sick and tired of you traveling.
	I'm sick and tired of you standing around in these stupid meetings.
	I don't like it.
	It's not fun for me.
	Can we put somebody in my place?
	Yeah.
	And they got a double and that's what they did.
	She just stands there.
	She never says anything.
	How much do you think that gig pays?
	Well, it's got to pay about a quarter of a million.
	Nah, it's got to be more than that.
	I don't think, I think you can get it for a quarter of a million.
	No, the reason I say a quarter of a million is because I think you can get someone for a quarter of a million.
	Yeah, but you can kill someone for 50 bucks.
	Probably.
	Yeah.
	We're in strange times, Mr. Dvorak.
	All right, here's Steve Mnuchin with a little bit of... And by the way, by the way, when she's there with him, like in the one shot of her with the fake by the helicopter...
	No one ever says that it's Melania Trump.
	It just could be, you know, a secretary.
	Intern.
	Intern.
	So that allows you to take the tax reform bill through the reconciliation process.
	Let's talk about that for a moment because recently this deduction elimination of the state and local taxes has been a debate.
	Where are you on that?
	Is that going to hold up this bill?
	This is very interesting.
	I didn't know this was a part of the bill.
	So, the idea is you deduct the amount you've paid in state taxes from your federal tax bill?
	Generally, you do.
	Otherwise, you... They make it sound like something is different.
	Otherwise, it's double taxation.
	Right.
	You're supposed to be able to... I think they're going to change that.
	You're supposed to be able to take off all your taxes from your income before you pay your federal taxes.
	Hmm.
	Well, then why otherwise you could be taking you to be taxed so much that you get nothing.
	You want all this money?
	Well, let's see what they're saying here, because I maybe I don't understand it properly.
	Where are you on that?
	Is that going to hold up this bill?
	Marie, I don't think it's going to hold up the bill.
	And as you know, I've had the opportunity to work with the president for over the last year and a half during the campaign on tax reform.
	It's been his top priority.
	I've been working on this since January.
	And we understand the issue on state and local deductions.
	As I said, I've lived in California and New York, and I know the impact on both those economies, and we're trying to balance On the one hand, we firmly believe that the federal government should get out of the business of supporting and subsidizing the state and local deductions.
	On the other hand, we are sensitive to those economies and we're working with the House and Senate on this issue.
	Okay, so I guess what they're saying is, we're going to leave it in, we're going to allow that, we're not going to take that away.
	Is that your understanding?
	Well, I understand it's up for debate.
	That's what the problem is.
	But here's the thing that I didn't realize that Maria brings up.
	I guess on the one hand, if you have a deduction and you're able to deduct your state and local taxes, it sort of gives the governor of that state or the mayors in that city free-wheeling to just raise taxes or leave taxes wherever they want.
	That's true, Maria, and I know that people in New York and California will say that they send more money to the federal government that they get back, but that's because more rich people live in both those states.
	And the way the tax system works, I think you know, the top 10% pay 80% of the taxes in this country.
	Okay, so they're just throwing out a bunch of random crap.
	This is a terrible state.
	Okay.
	Well, good, then you've cleared that up for me because no one else is making it clear what's going on.
	I read the proposal.
	I haven't seen any document.
	You're not going to get away with this.
	With what?
	If they think they're going to not let people deduct their taxes on their federal income tax.
	Yeah, you think they're pushing for that?
	It's one of the elements in play because there's a number of, and I can see where you would maybe Put that in play if you were in a state like Florida, Nevada, Texas.
	Yeah.
	I could see that.
	Yeah.
	But nobody that's in New York, New York's worst thing.
	I mean, New York's California state tax is horrible.
	But New York has got not only state tax, but if you live in the city of New York, you have to pay New York City tax just to live there.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So when you go, even if you're traveling through, you're supposedly, if you go to New York and you're a writer and you write a book there.
	You have to pay taxes in New York.
	You have to pay taxes.
	Insane.
	In the city, city of New York and the state.
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	Go to noagenthenation.com slash rings?
	And, uh, I guess we have to order some more rings.
	Yeah.
	Geez.
	Seems so.
	And we will make a good on some of the notes that didn't get mentioned cause they were in the email or they got lost in the shuffle, but you got your knighthoods and we'll figure it out.
	Thank you.
	Thank you all so much.
	Thank you.
	Making up.
	Good.
	Ew, let's see.
	What do you have?
	I have just a few more things.
	The new Project Veritas video is out.
	Oh, what's the topic?
	You know, the thing that's so bothersome about Project Veritas, you know, they unmask shenanigans at Planned Parenthood.
	There's a lot of things that they cover.
	But it's really just, you know, unless you're looking at the video and reading along with the subtitles, it's very hard.
	The audio is very difficult.
	This one is audible enough.
	It is, let me get this right, this is Desiree Hsu.
	She's the senior staff editor for newyorktimes.com.
	Oh, yeah.
	And she's talking about President Trump and Vice President Pence and the bias that is just impossible to keep away.
	I'm speaking all for President Pence.
	It's hard to portray, for instance, the President in a unbiased light when the words that are coming out of his mouth are apologetic toward white supremacists.
	I feel like Trump is a It's just sort of an idiot in a lot of ways.
	Like, just an oblivious idiot.
	Like, that's just f***ing horrible.
	Well, I think maybe possibly worse than 12.
	He's extremely, uh, extremely religious.
	Extremely religious.
	I think one of the things that maybe journalists were thinking about was like, oh, if we write about him, about how insane and crazy he is, and how ludicrous his policies are, then maybe people will read it and be like, oh wow, we should work on it.
	So I think the last part is particularly damning, if you could understand it.
	She says, we're really hopeful that people read about, you know, we just write about how crazy and effing stupid they are in the hopes that people will then understand.
	So they're not reporting, they're trying to convince.
	She used the word, oh, wow.
	Now, at the beginning, didn't she say this was off the record?
	Yeah, I don't think, I don't know if I have that on here.
	Yeah, she said it's off.
	Yeah, it was on there.
	I heard it.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	So that would be a bad thing.
	Well, it's, it's, it's, it's not journalism.
	It's bad form.
	It's not journalism.
	It's bad form.
	When somebody says off the record, you, yeah, it's off the record.
	You let them talk about stuff because it's bad.
	It becomes background and background is useful, but you don't blow it.
	But you know, these guys, that's what they do.
	So, I mean, it's not like it's against the law.
	I mean, they come in with a, with a phony, uh, Premise and then they bust you for being a jerk.
	Yeah Yeah, that's how it works All right, yeah, but we do that we knew this Just before you get into because we weren't getting to some last clips here Uh, I have to compliment you again.
	You know, I've been working on Windows for a while, not during the show.
	That's still all the Mac and I don't think, uh, well, here's, here's the thing.
	You wrote about something that I heard in the Windows store.
	I went to the Windows store a few weeks ago.
	It's in the same Microsoft store.
	I call it the Windows store.
	Okay.
	The Microsoft store, which, um, there's one around.
	Yeah.
	It's in the domain 79 of them, I think, or something like that.
	Well, it's, we have one Apple store here and they're low energy.
	No!
	No, they're not.
	Good!
	No, they were high energy, very enthusiastic, very helpful, not arrogant, not- they don't have that sheen, that apple sheen over them, you know?
	Oh, yeah.
	Like, shit, I'm- Which is good.
	I'm an apple, I got the sheen.
	Um, and I was, uh, very imp- very impressed.
	With the Surface Studio Pro hammered in fact that I've been looking at this, you know, we know that there's a lot of interesting stuff happening with Microsoft and I never thought I would say it again, but you know, things go in cycles and maybe they're coming around and it's fast and zippy and now they've got touch interfaces for studio work for radio stuff as well.
	I'm, you know, it's like and I can really, I don't know, I'm really jacked about it.
	And then you mentioned the phone.
	And I heard this in the store.
	The guy said, yeah, I think they're coming with a Surface phone.
	And this is weeks ago before you wrote this article.
	Are you sure?
	Yes.
	I have written two articles on this.
	It was before the first one, too.
	I read that as well.
	Okay.
	I hate to say it, but I don't think he got the info.
	He works at Microsoft.
	And that looks like a really good deal, man.
	That looks like a cool thing.
	You have the whole computer in your phone.
	And you just hook it up to a monitor.
	I mean, and you blow away the whole app ecosystem.
	You know, it makes so much sense.
	I really like it.
	Anyway, you know guys over there, right?
	At Microsoft, don't you have contact?
	I do, but I have not gotten any of this information from Microsoft.
	It's all based on observational analysis, period.
	Well, I mean, I love the idea of the phone, but really, can you give me like a demo unit of the Studio Pro?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	Damn, the whole story for nothing.
	I thought you would go, yeah, I'll call somebody.
	I can't get one for myself.
	Oh.
	Damn.
	I mean, I'm the poster child for this.
	You'd be ideal.
	Perfect.
	Yeah.
	Idiot.
	All right.
	Onward.
	Ah, a Dutch story.
	On KFI in California, the big KFI.
	Can you receive that where you are, the big KFI?
	After about seven o'clock at night, yeah.
	Man, well this was a story that ran on some show that one of our producers picked up about migrants in the Netherlands.
	The ever-tolerant Dutch, by the way, the Dutch who will take absolutely anybody, of course, and the evil Americans are closing down their borders and the whole thing.
	Well, a lot of refugees from wherever have discovered that the magic phrase it pays in Holland, if you don't want to be deported back to Iraq, back to Turkey, back to whatever, all you have to do is say, but I'm gay.
	I'm LGBTQ, you know, et cetera.
	That's ROFL, LOL, LMAO.
	It's all you have to do is say, oh, all right, maybe I'm not a political refugee, but I'm gay.
	I like the penis.
	And the Dutch immediately put you into a three-year holding pattern, and they just assume, you know, you're telling the truth.
	And they agree, yep, you're going to be killed if you're sent back to Turkey or whatever.
	Well, the Dutch, so many refugees have discovered this magic phrase that pays that they're all using it now.
	So now the Dutch ...are having to invent clever ways to have people prove they're gay.
	And they are, for instance, saying, well, bring your boyfriend next time.
	If you have a boyfriend, bring him.
	If you don't have a boyfriend, go get a boyfriend.
	And we want you guys to make out in front of us.
	But it just shows you that, yes, there are limits to everyone's tolerance.
	I'm waiting for confirmation on you gotta make out in front of us.
	That part I'm not sure is true.
	But yeah, this is great.
	Holland will end up being the most gay of all the EU countries.
	Well, we used to be that.
	Statistically, yeah.
	We used to be the gayest of all gay and open and free society and any Dutchman will tell you or Dutch woman will say it's now dangerous to be on the street and gay in Holland because you get beat up.
	That's the irony of this whole situation.
	I know, it's crazy.
	Yeah, well, I had that.
	Well, since you're playing Dutch, but America, America, we're the bad guys.
	We're the horrible people for gays.
	Sure.
	Why don't you play this little clip?
	I think I cut it down enough.
	It's from the last show.
	It's it's you have to look at I think it says Dutch.
	And it's from the last show.
	I don't have it on today's.
	Turkey beating up the Dutch.
	No, that's not one.
	That's an old one now.
	It's a pretty new clip.
	You sure it says Dutch?
	I'm pretty sure it either says Dutch or maybe Holland.
	Holland, we can try that.
	Yes, earthquakes in Holland.
	Yes.
	That's it.
	Home to one of Europe's richest natural gas fields.
	The gas from the region brings in billions for the country, but not without a cost.
	Thousands of residents say their homes have been damaged by earthquakes brought on by the extraction of natural gas from shell rocks deep below the surface.
	They wonder, how could such a beautiful area and such a wealthy country be allowed to fall into ruin?
	Hiltjes Farbeck grew up here in the area around...
	What is this from?
	.
	This is a Deutsche Welle weekly show called... It sounds like the Blue Marble.
	Remember that show?
	It's like a version... It's like a... It's... It's a... It's a very slow... It's a... It's a features-oriented news magazine that Deutsche Welle does.
	So they... So they produce everything with all the packages of music and they're pretty well thought out.
	Sometimes it's interesting.
	Groningen, close to the German border.
	Setting off on a boat.
	What does he say?
	Groningen, well, technically close to the German border, but it would make more sense to say bordering on the North Sea, the very north of the country.
	Setting off on a boat and enjoying nature from the water is something he never tires of.
	Oh, yeah.
	This is my life.
	We were all born on the water and loved boats.
	My father was a fisherman.
	It's like heaven on earth.
	But the area is no longer as idyllic as it once was.
	Once a dream, it's becoming a nightmare.
	Since 2012, Swaberg explains, there have been regular earthquakes.
	They're brought on by natural gas production in the region.
	That house is damaged.
	That one is damaged.
	All the houses here.
	Giltje has been living in an apartment for two years now.
	His own house is surrounded by a fence these days.
	You can't really see the problem from the outside, but let's go in.
	Then you'll see what's happened.
	The problems are on this side.
	It's really bad over here.
	This used to be my bedroom.
	This wall is already separated from the outside wall.
	And on this side, the wall has come away from this one.
	So the next time there's a quake, the entire ceiling will probably come down.
	And then this wall could fall inward.
	The natural gas company offered him just 8,000 euros compensation.
	The costs for repairing the damage would probably be closer to a quarter million.
	That's what it would take for Hiltje Svaberg's house to be safe enough to live in.
	Yeah, this is a story, and I did a quick little lookup, that I can find the show notes.
	The show notes search only goes back to episode 490, because that's when I started doing structured data, XML.
	And search.nashownotes.com has episode 514 from 18th May 2013 when we first started talking about this.
	And it's a huge problem.
	Void Zero lives up there.
	And it's not just the fracking.
	I think they also are using some of the dead wells, the ones that have been, you know, they've gotten everything out.
	They're using that to jam more like Russian natural gas into to save it, to store it.
	And yeah, there's earthquakes every day, like waves just, you know, and they're all like 2-2 on the scale, 2-3 on whatever scale, who knows what they're using these days.
	But it's cracking all the houses, and it's already, there's a lot of animosity between, you know, basically Amsterdam, and then let's just throw The Hague in there, and the rest of the country.
	They feel like they're excluded, and, you know, these homes are cracking.
	Yeah, here's a couple grand.
	Shut up.
	Well, that's the joke of their offering and almost nothing.
	Yeah.
	And they had this clip.
	These are features that go on forever.
	So they had a spokesman from the oil company come on and say, you know, we've been taking natural gas out of this area since 1967.
	Yeah.
	And so we've been here a long time.
	But they did taking Natural gas out of a natural gas well is one thing, but fracking is another thing altogether.
	And it's known fact everywhere there's a lot of fracking, Oklahoma being a perfect prime example.
	There's all these earthquakes which are very damaging to anyone living in the area, or even nearby.
	And they're always in denial about this.
	Yeah, well, all these houses are old.
	Zero's saying that it's not daily.
	He says it's not all that bad, but...
	Oh, he says you can feel the real bad ones.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's cracking.
	It's cracking stuff.
	Yeah, well, all these houses are old.
	They tend to be brick or mortar and something.
	And so they're not built for earthquake area in the first place.
	Although you can retrofit steel beams and stuff in a brick house and make it so it still stand up.
	Yeah.
	But nobody does that.
	And it's a specialty.
	We have it in California.
	All the old buildings that, you know, had a problem in 1989, they've all been, you know, they're still there.
	You say, why is this old brick building here?
	And you go inside and you can see how, how, how it's, why it's there is because it's got all these This interior kind of structure which holds the bricks not carrying a load anymore.
	That's the reason it's standing up.
	Well, it's two things and a continuation of the Dutch.
	I really want to compliment our producers.
	When I see how, you know, episode 490, we started to make our show notes, which you can find at noagendanotes.com, archive.noagendanotes.com.
	Made it available in OPML, it's an XML derivative.
	And since then, we have the noagenda search, search.nashownotes, that has now linked to the noagenda player, where the annotations are, so you can find that segment on that episode.
	I mean, the stuff that our community does is mind-blowing.
	Mind-blowing!
	No one has this.
	You can't get it.
	It can't be done.
	It has to be done organically.
	It's beautiful.
	If it happens, you get the organic development that takes place.
	That's what we had.
	Of course, it's taken 10 years.
	Everything's in place.
	We can sell all the assets.
	That's the joke of it.
	Of course, you can't sell the assets because they don't really come in the form of an asset.
	But if you try to do the same thing to have the same impact of a show, it would cost a mint, it would cost a fortune, it would cost a lot more than we get in donations, that's for sure.
	Oh, it would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
	Millions.
	Millions, you're probably right over time.
	Hey, let's stay with the Dutch.
	Another fine Dutch descendant, General Petraeus, was in the Netherlands.
	He's opening up an office there with his little security firm, his consulting arm.
	It's what you do when you're a general and you're retired and you're done.
	But his father was a Dutchman and he received a question from a Dutch guy about Trump.
	As you may be well aware of, there is little respect for the way Trump conducts himself in the Netherlands and other parts of the Western world.
	Yes, including the report you saw him with the hookers pissing on the bed.
	It's crazy this man.
	We don't like him here.
	...conducts himself in the Netherlands and other parts of the Western world.
	In fact, many people think he is absolutely not qualified to be the President of the United States.
	What do you think of this?
	We have to acknowledge that this is a guy who told us what he would do in his book, The Art of the Deal.
	Now this is a meme.
	This is a meme I've heard multiple people state and it's the first time I got a clip of it.
	The meme is, you knew what you were getting when we elected him, read the art of the deal where he goes, he says, you got to punch your opponent in the nose, you got to go in big so you have a negotiating standpoint.
	Like that was some big secret, but it's the meme now, and he's repeating it.
	This book, The Art of the Deal, he says that before you negotiate with somebody, before you even sit down, you punch the other guy in the nose.
	Now, whether you agree with that style or not, that is how he does it.
	MR.
	Yeah.
	But some of that is for effect.
	Some of that is to get attention.
	Some of that is to, you know, keep the other guy off balance.
	And there is some merit to that.
	You have to be careful with that, though, if you inadvertently end up in a crisis with someone who thinks you might do something irrational, because that could be an unstable situation.
	But before you get into a crisis, it might actually improve your bargaining, although we have to see what will happen with the North American Free Trade Agreement, what will happen with the Korea-U.S.
	Free trade agreement and so forth.
	There you go.
	It's Dutch day here on the show.
	Looks like it.
	Yes.
	I always like to play it.
	Are we kind of going Dutch?
	Yes.
	With the donations.
	Yes, it's very good.
	Half price, half price.
	We say it's Americans.
	You know that, right?
	We've talked about that, right?
	Yes, we have.
	The Dutch, you know, you say going Dutch is your cheap-ass Dutch and the Dutch say, let's do an American party.
	Everyone brings their own.
	I have a, uh, one last clip I'll play.
	And it's not that long, and it's kind of boring because it's Tillerson.
	And Tillerson is an extremely boring speaker.
	Oh, good.
	Then I'll wrap it up after your boring Tillerson with... Well, shoot, I won't.
	I have another boring Tillerson.
	Let's see how boring yours is.
	Well, this is done at one of these meetings at C-SPAN coverage, one of these high-end groups of some sort.
	And he is discussing, it's a long speech, well it's not that long, it's about a 40 minute speech.
	In there, this is the nut of the speech, he discusses our relationship with the Indian assault.
	The whole speech is about India and he discusses our relationship with India and he throws in all the geopolitical stuff and everything we really need to know so we have a little foundation.
	This reminds me of Mark Miley's, the general who gave us the speech on exactly how the world operates in today's situation.
	...which was a dynamite piece of work.
	But this is good information too, and you can hear all the little kinds of memes.
	You hear a lot of this background stuff because it's brought to the fore.
	Very interesting.
	...it's a powerful democratic example, and it's increasing stature on the world stage.
	It makes perfect sense that the United States, at this time, should seek to build on the strong foundation of our years of cooperation with India.
	It is indeed time to double down on a democratic partner that is still rising, and rising responsibly for the next 100 years.
	But above all, the world, and the Indo-Pacific in particular, needs the United States and India to have a strong partnership.
	India and the United States must, as the India saying goes, do the needful.
	What is the saying?
	I never could catch it perfectly.
	It must, as the India saying goes, do the needful.
	Do the needful?
	That's what it sounds like.
	I don't like it.
	I don't either.
	How about just do it?
	Be like Nike, man.
	As the India saying goes, do the needful.
	Our two countries can be the voice the world needs to be, standing firm in defense of a rules-based order to promote sovereign countries' unhindered access to the planet's shared spaces, be they on land, at sea, or in cyberspace.
	In particular, India and the United States must foster greater prosperity and security with the aim of a free and open Indo-Pacific.
	The Indo-Pacific, including the entire Indian Ocean, the Western Pacific, and the nations that surround them, will be the most consequential part of the globe in the 21st century.
	Home to more than 3 billion people, this region is the focal point of the world's energy and trade routes.
	40% of the world's oil supply crisscrosses the Indian Ocean every day, through critical points of transit like the Straits of Malacca and Hormuz.
	And with emerging economies in Africa and the fastest growing economy and middle class in India, whole economies are changing to account for this global shift in market share.
	Asia's share of global GDP is expected to surpass 50% by the middle of this century.
	Yeah, this is really good.
	And we forget to talk about the UNICOL pipeline in Afghanistan.
	The whole point of that thing was always to get it from Afghanistan to Pakistan into India, and then hopefully into China.
	It's always been about the pipelines and the oil, and I'm glad that Tillerson's on it.
	Now it's kind of sad because he's an oil guy that makes him sound like a shill.
	Yeah, he did something else in that little talk, that clip.
	I don't have this.
	I was thinking of getting a copy and then deconstructing it a little bit, which is John McCain's horrible speech.
	Oh, I didn't see that one.
	He gave this massive speech where he condemned Trump and he did all these things and talked about the New World Order and how we're bailing out on it.
	Nationalism is the worst thing imaginable.
	I'll try to get this for the next show.
	And he goes on and on, bitching and moaning about the alt-right and everything in between.
	And he goes on and uses the word planet.
	Planet?
	That's what Tillerson did.
	Tillerson uses the word planet.
	Coincidence?
	We're not talking about the earth.
	We're not talking about the globe.
	We're not talking about the world economy.
	We're talking about the planet.
	No, are these guys doing deals with the aliens?
	Maybe that's just signs of... The greys they're talking about?
	I mean, what's the deal?
	Why are you using the word planet all of a sudden?
	I've never noticed this before, but McCain made a big deal about talking about the planet.
	I wonder.
	I'm going to have to go back and listen.
	I'm going to go listen to it.
	Someone did tell me that he there was some disparaging stuff or he was yapping about people saying that he was responsible for that.
	He made the ISIS videos.
	Was that in there as well?
	Is that where he talked?
	I don't remember that because I haven't heard the whole speech.
	If I did, I'll take a look at it and we'll always come up with different clips.
	So clip away and I'll see if I find something too.
	Yeah, that's why I didn't do any Ellen clips.
	Yeah, but I'll leave McCain as your beat.
	Now, while this is extremely interesting, and to know the geopolitical stance of our Secretary of State and the administration, meanwhile, back at the ranch, at CNN, here's all that Jake Tapper could talk about when he had Rex Tillerson in the studio.
	Ever since you called it petty, I've been thinking a lot about it.
	Because I'm a reflective guy and I understand the media makes mistakes and the media always could improve.
	But here's the thing.
	Either you didn't say it, in which case there are a whole bunch of administration officials telling the press and telling the president that you did, and that's a serious problem, or you did say it.
	And look, you're a serious guy.
	For you to say something like that suggests a real frustration with the Commander-in-Chief.
	So, when you don't answer the question, it makes people think that you probably did say it.
	But either way, whatever happened, it is serious.
	So, can you please clear it up?
	As I said, Jake, I'm not playing.
	These are the games of Washington.
	These are the destructive games of this town.
	They're not helpful to anyone.
	And so my position on it is, I'm not playing.
	I'm not playing.
	You want to make a game out of it?
	I'm not playing.
	I'm not making a game out of it.
	I mean, I'm just trying to see clarity because saying that if I said that my boss was a moron, that would be a serious issue.
	It wouldn't be.
	And my boss doesn't control nukes.
	I'm willing to move on, but I just want to be clear.
	You still haven't denied that you called him a moron.
	And, you know, A lot of people are going to watch this and think he probably said it.
	I'm not dignifying the question with an answer, Jake.
	And I'm a little surprised you want to spend so much time on it when there's so many important issues around the world.
	Thank you.
	And that's why we exist.
	Because you just can't get any frickin' news from these people.
	No.
	They're like a bunch of kids.
	You said it, you didn't say it.
	You just say it, you didn't say it.
	So are you.
	And so are you.
	Makes me ill.
	All right, everybody.
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	And until then, everybody, as always, adios!
	Movo!
	Harvey's love, folks. folks.
	On the ocean, there's nowhere to run.
	On the love, folks.
	There's parted plants there for everyone.
	In the morning.
	Ah-ha.
	Hey!
	Ah-ha.
	It's what I like about you.
	You're so uptight.
	If you want to be in Hollywood, you better come over tonight. .
	Well, I'll keep whisperin' in your ear.
	Tell you all those things you don't wanna hear, but they're true.
	It's what I like about you.
	It's what I like about you.
	You really know how to dance.
	Well, I'm gonna get my cock out and finish myself in this plant.
	Oh my gosh!
	Can you see that juice?
	You've got karma.
	Now promise me you will not mention a word of this to anyone.
	Here comes the goo.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Can you see that juice?
	You've got karma.
	Now, promise me you will not mention a word of this to anyone, right?
	Don't call him Shirley.
	Ah!
	This disaster must be a wake-up call.
	The Prime Minister's answer must be heard.
	And it will be.
	We'll take the world out of depression.
	And we not only save the world.
	Save the world's banks, I meant.
	They're going crazy.
	I love their parliament.
	Listen to how everyone's going nuts.
	Which we wouldn't have if we listened to the muttering idiots sitting opposite me.
	I'm very worried about the health of the health minister who's so overexcited he might suffer a relapse.
	The Prime Minister will please withdraw the word idiot.
	It's unparliamentary.
	Honorable member for Brent Central, who's in a very animated state.
	I do know what you had for breakfast, but I think I ought to steer clear of it.
	Yeah.
	So someone even urinated on my office. - Oh, I destroyed it.
	Order!
	We don't need shouting across the chamber in that fashion.
	Order!
	Why can't we have that in Congress?
	That is cool.
	Ah!
	I got ants.
	Bye.
	Bye.
	I got ants.
	I don't know if we had ants.
	We had ant invasion.
	I was thinking if you desiccated a big pile of ants and then ground them to a powder like a fine, fine grind black pepper.
	We were having dinner and I got an ant, uh, somehow in the meal.
	And I ate it.
	These things are peppery.
	I got ants.
	I got ants.
	These ants, they don't need a lot.
	And then you see, you find all the ones that are roaming around here.
	I'm going to back them off by doing the burning trick.
	You torch them.
	And you leave them there.
	The only ant, there are occasional moments where there's an ant that you do not torch, and that's an ant that's carrying one of the dead ants back.
	I got ants.
	We'll be right back.
	Ants.
	Ants?
	I got ants.
	Ants. Ants. Ants. Ants.
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