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973: Exit on the Floor
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I'm looking at this here brain.
What do you think?
Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
It's Sunday, October 15, 2017.
This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination.
Episode 973.
This is no agenda.
27% day trader, 38% podcaster, and 100% broadcasting from the future.
Live from downtown Austin, Tejas, the capital of the drone star state, in the Cluedio, in the morning, everybody!
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm pitching on fumes, I'm John C. DeVore.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill!
In the morning!
Is the phrase from the Shays not, I'm running on fumes?
Well, this was a reference to Verlander, who they said was pitching on fumes.
Who's Verlander?
Games.
Yeah, who's Verlander?
Oh, wait a minute.
Sports reference.
Oh, OK.
I'm sorry.
Who's Verlander?
Who was pitched a complete game.
Saw it last night.
Actually saw some... Oh, I didn't see that one.
No.
You watched what, the Dodgers?
Cubs, yeah.
It was a good game.
They were both good games.
Surprisingly, both of them were good games.
We have a guest protocol initiated here in the common law condo.
Tina's sister and her husband are here.
They're from the Chicago area, so big Cubs fans.
Well, the games weren't on against each other, so you could have watched both.
Yeah, but we also had to go drinking.
They're from Chicago, so.
Oh, yeah.
Chicago equals drinking.
Equals beer.
Exactly.
Well, it's funny, I'm sure you enjoyed the local brews.
There's a lot of good... Yeah, we went to this place called Lazarus, which is a great name because in Holland, if you're completely blotto drunk, they say you're Lazarus.
Which makes sense from the biblical meaning of the word because Lazarus was resurrected, you know, from the dead.
So you're as dead as Lazarus.
Yeah.
And we had a beer flight of the things I learned.
So you had a flight of the beers?
I did.
I did indeed.
That was good.
Why?
Because that was... All right.
Thanks, John.
All right.
Chicago.
Just Chicago.
Okay?
Don't ask questions.
It's all about Chicago.
Did you find any beer that was any good?
Oh yeah, they're all good.
It must have been a consensus beer where I said, this is the best.
Oh, now, no.
There's never a consensus, no.
There you go.
Okay.
Well, stuff happening.
Yeah, there's a few things.
Media-wise, lots of stuff happening, actually.
Yeah, media-wise.
You want to go do the Weinstein thing because... This might as well.
I mean, that's what... There's so much to... Let me use the phrase, unpack.
In Hurricane Harvey, we forgot to see the obvious.
And then I found at least two editorial cartoons where they caught that gang.
Use Hurricane Harvey?
Yeah, we were late to that.
Hurricane Harvey.
Which hurricane are you talking about?
Exactly.
Exactly.
I know there's a number of things.
I think the commonality that exists is using this.
Well, actually, I've heard two using the Hurricane Harvey ordeal for political means and racial means.
I mean, it's just, it's beautiful.
You know, whatever it is, just remember our president sucks.
Actually, let me just play a couple of these.
Jane Fonda was on CNN with Christiane Amanpour.
It's very worthwhile listening to the longer piece, but we can do that later.
I just want to play the kicker.
This was at the end of her interview.
But, I mean, Donald Trump is... We have a man who is president who does these things.
What kind of a message does that say?
Unfortunately, that...
It counteracts a lot of the good that we're doing because a lot of men see, well, our president does it and he got elected even after people discovered that he was an abuser.
So I'm just going to go ahead and do what I want to do.
It's unacceptable.
We can't ever forget that.
We have to stand up to them.
Yes.
By the way, this is one of the elements of the Trump cycle.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
It's spot on too.
Spot on.
And I think that the one that follows is Russia.
So I think there's more Russia stuff.
And I think you're right.
Let's go to Hillary.
We don't have the cycle down completely because then what comes after Russia?
But we have all the elements.
We just don't have the order.
Yeah, well, let's stick with this for a second.
Yeah, stay with this, Hillary.
Yeah, keep going.
Alright, here is Hillary Clinton, who took it one step further.
You probably saw this, this has aired a lot.
Your family lives there, you're from Puerto Rico.
You used to own an island down there?
I did, until four months before the storm hit.
I'm sorry, what is that?
How did I get that?
That's odd.
That is... It's an island.
No, that's very strange.
No, that is Geraldo.
How did that get under that?
Hold on a second.
What happened here?
Uh-oh!
That was... How did that get renamed?
Hold on a second.
Well, while I'm looking for the appropriate clip, let's listen to one minute of Hollywood thanking Harvey.
Harvey Weinstein.
Bob Weinstein.
God bless him.
Harvey Weinstein, who believed in us and made this movie.
Harvey and Bob Weinstein.
Harvey Weinstein.
Thank you, Harvey Weinstein.
Especially Harvey.
I want to thank Harvey and Bob Weinstein.
Thank Harvey Weinstein.
Harvey Weinstein.
Harvey, who first took me on 20 years ago.
I would like to thank Harvey Weinstein.
Harvey Weinstein, who had the guts, the courage, the commitment.
Especially Harvey Weinstein, a man of dedication and vision.
Harvey Weinstein, well, listen, so... Harvey and Bob Weinstein, you also break my heart with your uncensored passion.
Harvey Weinstein.
Harvey and Bob.
And Harvey and Bob Weinstein.
To you, Harvey.
Harvey Weinstein.
Harvey Weinstein.
The Harvey Weinstein Company, okay?
Thank you, Harvey Weinstein, for putting your heart behind this film and shining the light on this.
We'd really like to share this with you.
I want to thank the Mashpuka Weinstein.
Robert Williams at the end.
So I don't know what happened to the Hillary clip, but it doesn't, I mean, she, what she said is we now have an admitted sex assaulter in the White House.
That was her, the main thing, which is kind of disputable with the evidence that he admitted he's a sexual assaulter.
Yeah, where's all the women lining up like they are in this deal?
Let's go back to... I just got another one here.
I got a few more.
This is ABC's 2020.
I think this was from Friday.
This had a double kicker in it.
This was the special.
It had a double kicker in it.
The culture of silence exists because it is a scary thing to go public.
But that culture is changing.
In fact, a kind of cultural climate change is underway.
Oh, nice!
Even as Weinstein walks the Oscars red carpet, equally powerful media titans are suddenly being toppled for allegations of sexual misconduct.
Bill Cosby.
Fox CEO Roger Ailes.
And late today, word of a major change at Fox News.
Bill O'Reilly.
Bill O'Reilly, fired by Fox News.
Even a 10-year-old recording of a boastful future President Trump has come to light.
Hey, when you're a star, they let you do it.
You can do anything.
Oh, yes!
It's beautiful.
It's beautiful.
It's all politicized.
It's fantastic.
Well, I have a couple of inter- I'm gonna slip this clip in because of what she just said.
Which is, oh, it's the culture of silence.
Yeah.
Oh, oh, no.
Well, here's how.
This is the H.W.
Harvey Levinson tale.
Harvey Levinson was on Hannity and he told this story.
And this is an example of what contradicts everything that we keep hearing about.
Oh, the culture of silence.
Yeah, I just don't know which clip it is.
I'm sorry.
It's very hard.
H.W.
Harvey Levinson.
Yeah, I just don't.
Oh, here it is.
I'm sorry.
Okay, brain fart.
Got it.
Everybody talked about it.
People even joked about it, but nobody spoke out about it.
What can you tell us?
Well, I can tell you a lot right now.
We just put this up on the website, and I think this is really significant.
Angie Everhart, a model and an actress, John, if you're interested, I have her story, what he's about to tell.
Unless there's something else that he says, it may be more interesting to listen to Angie's words herself.
Okay, put her on.
on a boat and she was sleeping in a cabin even though john if you're interested i have her story what he's about to tell unless there's something else that he says it may be more interesting to listen to angie's words herself okay put her on um first of all my my hands are shaking um you know this isn't really easy to talk about it's uh I was at the Canthum Festival.
I was on a friend's boat.
Harvey walked in, walked in front of me, took his pants down, did his thing, exited on the floor, if you know what I mean, pulled his pants back up, said, you're a really nice girl, don't tell anybody about this, and left.
So I told everybody about it.
I said, I mean, you know, I mean, it was a lot longer than that.
And I, you know, he was blocking the door.
I couldn't get out.
I'd rather not say which year because I don't want to talk about which boat I was on.
And I don't need to talk about that.
I had just arrived from America.
I had jet lag.
I was in the bed sleeping when I woke up to him above me.
He came in actually with another girl and she left.
And... he stayed.
They both stood up there.
They both stood there, and I was like...
Uh, I couldn't get out of bed because I was wearing just a little t-shirt and nothing else.
So I was stuck and they were in front of the bed.
It was just, it was just terrible.
It was a terrible moment.
You know, I told my husband about this when I first met him and when all of this came out, he was like, you know, you have to come out.
You have to tell people this.
I'm just glad that this is because when I talked about it before, nobody listened.
Now people are listening, and not just for me.
I'm glad that people are listening so that it doesn't happen anymore because it's not okay.
You know, they say it's hearsay, it's my word against your word.
I told people on the boat, I told people at the dinner I was at, and everybody was like, oh, that's just Harvey.
People have known this about Harvey for more than a decade.
There isn't A single person who is anybody in this business that doesn't know that Harvey Weinstein has been like that.
If they know Harvey, they know he's been like that.
You know, it's a very scary thing in Hollywood to come out and talk like this about somebody who is so powerful as Harvey Weinstein.
He got stories crushed, and he can crush you.
You know, he didn't physically touch me.
But he physically touched a lot of girls from what I hear.
And I feel so bad for those girls.
I think we both picked up on the same thing, John.
That this is a whole other industry which I personally have always had a beef with.
Because Andrea Everhart's not an actress.
She's a model.
Very, very different.
And that, that can of worms needs to be opened up.
The agencies... And, you know, why wouldn't she say what boat she was on?
I think that's important.
I think we actually might need to know.
There's a lot of these women who are telling a story... You know what it is?
...that they won't... I know what boat it was.
Okay.
That's right, everybody!
Welcome aboard Harvey's Love Boat!
Well, that didn't work.
No, it did.
It just needs a little production.
They don't give us specifics.
There's a lot of nonspecific stuff, but the point that was being made here, and Harvey goes on and on and pounds it home with Hannity, which is that when people went around and told everybody, like this woman, she told everyone at the dinner, she told everybody she just couldn't stop talking about it because she was so offended. she told everybody she just couldn't stop talking about it And I, of course, my takeaway from the whole thing is, lock your damn door.
Yeah, exactly.
That's another.
Anyway, so, but here's the, but she, you know, she told everybody and everybody knew it, which brings us back to Meryl Streep.
Okay.
You know who claims, I don't have a Camaro Street clip, but we played her the other day, and she's, I don't know, but I'm befuddled.
I never heard of such a thing.
Who knew?
Yes.
So, but let's go back to, this is on Democracy Now!, they dug up some woman who's a professor at Colorado University, and this took place in 1984, when Harvey and Bob had just started their company.
This is when the whole thing, I guess, Harvey, when he was doing music production, which is another can of worms business.
He must have picked up these habits because when she-- it's kind of hard to hear this, and Amy's intro is a little long.
But this is the H.W. 1984 story.
1984.
In 1984, when she was an aspiring actress, her work focuses on the psychological consequences of the sexual objectification of women and girls.
Tomi Ann Roberts, let's begin with you.
We're going to talk about the work you now do on the sexual objectification in girls and women.
But let's begin with what happened to you more than 30 years ago in 1984.
How did you come in contact with Harvey Weinstein?
Well, the stories are beginning to sound monotonous, right?
And chillingly familiar.
I was waiting tables.
I was a student at Smith College and several friends and I had decided to spend the summer in New York City pursuing our dreams.
And so we sublet an apartment and I was waiting tables at a restaurant and that's where I met both Bob and Harvey Weinstein.
They were relative newcomers on the scene, explained to me their new company, Miramax, and pretty soon I was given to believe that I might be someone who could audition for a movie that they were going to be writing and directing.
It would have been the first movie they were writing and directing here in the United States.
And so I thought, I think I thought to myself, such a new company might not, uh, might not take such a new unknown person, uh, for granted.
And so I decided that I would try to audition for that movie.
So throughout the course of the summer, I would receive scripts and script updates.
I did visit the office on occasion.
Yeah.
God, yes.
It gets a course.
It goes right back to the same M.O.
Which brings me to the point of Bob Weinstein says that he only knew about this two years ago?
Sure, yeah.
No, he knew.
Are you kidding me?
No, of course.
Of course that's crap.
So he's a liar.
These people are unbelievable liars.
Let's just wrap this up.
You know what the ending is to this story.
And then I was invited to what I believe was Harvey's apartment.
And my expectation, of course, was that others involved in the movie would be there as well.
And that turned out not to be the case.
And it was in this, down a rather darkened hallway, that I discovered him in the bathtub.
And that encounter, as you might imagine, was petrifying to a 20-year-old.
I sort of stood there frozen, and Mr. Weinstein was quite calm about Trying to explain to me that if I would at least take my top off, this would demonstrate to him that I wasn't going to be shy about doing so in front of the cameras.
The movie was likely to have topless scenes.
And looking back, as I've said in several interviews now, I'm slightly ashamed to think that the only way I could imagine getting out of there was not running, but rather politely and sort of self-effacingly apologizing for the fact that I didn't feel comfortable with that.
And so I did eventually exit and found a payphone, called my boyfriend, and basically threw my acting aspirations in the wastebasket.
You had actually gone back to one of your tryouts, your auditions, where they said that you were moving forward and they told you they weren't interested anymore in Weinstein's company?
Yeah.
I don't know if it was Weinstein's company.
It was a casting agent.
At the time, I was so frightened because of the previous experience that I convinced one of my housemates to come with me.
a rather larger young man.
And once we got there, it was pretty clear that Harvey himself, neither Harvey nor Bob were going to be there.
And the casting agent was a very kind older woman who just sort of said to me, you know, you're not getting this part, right?
Yeah.
Surprise, surprise.
So this begs the question, which I think I have one explanation for it.
I'm not sure if you do.
Why now?
Well... We see this started in 1984.
It's pretty obvious it's been going on.
Everybody knows about it.
Everybody did all the material from the open jokes, you know, Seth, the McFarland material, the Dirty Rock material.
Right, right.
It's all there.
It's all there.
Well, the obvious easy answer, which you came up with on the last show I like very much, is that this was out of control and Bob Weinstein decided to do something about it.
Um, it still does not necessarily explain the timing of it and particularly coming from the New York Times, although we know that in television news, they want it to be in the New York Times first and then everybody, it's okay.
Yeah.
Everybody mentions that.
Yeah.
The, um, When Harvey Levinson talks about, in fact, he says that Weinstein is going to sue his brother and try to get back in the company.
It wouldn't surprise me.
He says because he was wrongly fired.
He says they didn't have the rights.
And apparently there was a clause in his contract that says he could be a pervert.
Yeah, he could be a pervert.
He would just have to pay fines and a fine and any hush money that the company had to pay.
I have not seen the contract, but I will believe it.
You can find it actually.
You know what I heard?
I heard something interesting.
Do you remember the fappening?
When we had Hollywood actresses, there was a whole dump of sexy, semi, and nude photos, suggestive.
You know, Jennifer Lawrence was one of them.
Yes, he would be.
Well, if you go back and you look at 4chan, where the fappening unfappened, the or one of the insiders at the time was saying, hey, this is coming from one Hollywood mogul from one phone.
And the thinking is it could have been Harvey's phone.
Uh, which he had, you know, he received nice little messages from his, uh, his potential actresses.
It's possible.
Yeah.
I think it sounds very possible.
Well, anyway, so the one, one explanation that I liked, which came, just came out, which was in PJ media and this guy's name, the writer, Simon, who's a Hollywood screenwriter, I think he's done some other stuff.
He says, Oh, he theorizes that the reason, and this makes sense when you hear it because the New York Times was involved.
The New York Times is this big Democrat kind of a propaganda machine.
They would not do it without reason.
I agree.
The reason is Hillary.
And I think that that blow up between Hillary and Bill is part of this.
They think that Hillary's off the rails.
She, this book, makes it look like she wants to run again.
They see it as a nightmare scenario, having her run again at age 80 or whatever she's going to be, 75.
And they had to do what they had to do.
They had to throw Harvey, despite his connections, under the bus because this brings out the connection between Hillary and Harvey and those photos.
Putting her hands on his chest.
Hold on John, let me just play the, it's about a minute ten of the Hillary interview.
I think it was a BBC interview actually.
I was shocked and appalled because I've known him through politics as many Democrats have.
He's been a supporter.
He's been a funder for all of us, for Obama, for me, for people who've run for office in the United States.
So it was just disgusting, and the stories that have come out are heartbreaking.
And I really commend the women who have been willing to step forward now and tell their stories.
But I think it's important that we Not just focus on him and whatever consequences flow from these stories about his behavior, but that we recognize this kind of behavior cannot be tolerated anywhere, whether it's in entertainment, politics.
After all, we have someone admitting to being a sexual assaulter in the Oval Office.
There has to be a recognition that we must stand against this kind of action that is so sexist and misogynistic.
And this depends upon women coming forward and having the courage to come forward.
And yet in your book, the three women brought onto stage by Trump attacking your husband, and you kind of dismissed them.
Here it comes.
Was that the right thing to do?
Are you sure about that?
Well, yes, because that had all been litigated.
I mean, that was the subject of a huge investigation, as you might recall, in the late 90s.
And there were conclusions drawn, and that was clearly in the past.
But it is something that has to be taken seriously.
As I say, for everyone, not just for those in entertainment right now.
There you go.
Well, here's another little add-on then.
I heard that interview too.
Sure.
She kind of feigns naivete in this whole thing.
And I think that's why right now and on this show, we're playing clips that have now been presented showing that this has been going on for a long time.
A.
Yeah.
And B.
Everybody knew.
That means Hillary knew.
Yes.
That's the counter thing.
You've got to do something to counter Hillary because first they blow this out and then Hillary's got all these bullcrap excuses.
They are trying to get Hillary out of the way.
She won't go away.
She's a nightmare to the Democrats.
They had to do this.
Then, if they decided that it was this important and Harvey was the right fish to fry, they have to have something else.
It's got to be a one-two.
It's not enough.
It's just not enough.
Hillary's slick.
There's gotta be a one-two.
There's gotta be something else.
Meanwhile, there is a lot of stuff going on, particularly in the film industry.
This, of course, came out.
Amazon put its studio's chief, Roy Price, on an immediate leave of absence following allegations that he harassed a producer and ignored an actress' claim of sexual assault by Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein.
The Hollywood Reporter reported that a producer on one of Amazon's shows said Price allegedly lewdly propositioned her in 2015.
The Amazon producer did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Also, actress Rose McGowan wrote on Twitter that she told Price that Weinstein assaulted her, but that Price did nothing.
Price could not immediately be reached by Reuters.
He declined a comment to The Hollywood Reporter.
A spokeswoman for Harvey Weinstein said, any allegations of non-consensual sex are unequivocally denied by Mr. Weinstein.
Price has been integral to Amazon's movie business.
The studio picked up three Oscars this year under his helm.
His removal creates uncertainty about its direction, just as Amazon invests some four and a half billion dollars in video content this year.
And it's always so fun in Hollywood.
Oh, the studio head!
Oh, they have no... Oh, what's gonna happen now?
Oh!
Oh, what are they gonna do without the studio head?
I have a couple things on this.
I want... By the way, I want to add a little color to the thing with McGowan.
Because she told Price, according to the Twitter back and forth, that her account was suspended for.
She says, I was raped by Weinstein!
And he says, There's no evidence of that, and she says, I'm the evidence!
Yeah.
I got a note from one of our producers, a Texas baron actually, which I'd like to share with the group.
You might enjoy this because, you know, this is, we have lots of stories from Hollywood, but how about something from our own little environment?
A Harvey Weinstein story.
I think it's quite salacious and nice.
This is 2009.
Our baron in Texas had a unique circumstance running with Harvey Weinstein.
He said, I'll try and keep it short here, but he was on the lake during spring break to promote an alcohol party related product that he had developed as a side business.
He had a wakeboarding boat and a crew of his friends and promo models.
It just happened to- I'm going to switch to him now.
It just happened to be when we were filming Piranha- when they were filming Piranha 3D and we were approached to use our boat and peoples in the party scenes.
So how could I say no?
The Wine Scene Company was one of the production companies.
The director actually threw a party for the cast and extras one night.
He said, pathetic flop.
The cops were called by 11 p.m.
due to poor choice of neighborhood slash house despite a pretty chill event and shut it down.
My friends and partners and I took it upon ourselves to throw a real party for everyone at our rental house.
Proper planning and neighbor networking produced a party of epic proportions that went until two hours after sunrise.
Most of the younger cast were there and Eli Roth.
You know who Eli Roth is?
No.
He was the bear Jew in...
Uh, what was the, uh, the Nazi, uh, Tarantino Nazi movie?
With Brad Pitt?
Okay.
And, uh, but he's a, he's a horror director.
I know him!
I know him from L.A.
Uh, that's why I think the story's better.
Most of the younger cast were there, and Eli Roth spent a lot of time trying to make out with my girlfriend, who is now my wife, but he had to settle for a BJ from some random party-goer apparently on the back of my damn boat while it was still covered in fake blood from the set.
Come to think of it, that's probably why Eli was drawn to it.
Harvey Weinstein showed up with the director and the director's PA once the party was well in swing.
House was packed to the gills, club music thumpin', skinny dippers in the pool, and plenty of dark corner shenanigans by this time.
A frighteningly perfect environment for a creeper.
An epic creeper he was!
We immediately noticed him as we were looking to promote a product and keeping our eyes peeled for the VIPs.
Unfortunately, he quickly started using our product as an excuse to creep on random young girls.
In short order, the complaints of groping and strong uninvited advances started to roll in.
He was even trying to grope girls right in front of their boyfriends.
With my eagle eye view as ad hoc DJ at a raised table, it was all very obviously a power trip for him.
I brought the lights up and used my megaphone to thank Weinstein, Roth, and Aja, the director, and their staff for creating a fun experience for all of us extras, and in doing so, paused everything long enough to create an opening for one of my business partners to saddle up to Weinstein and talk his ear off to protect all the women from his advances.
It worked perfectly, clearly scaring him off as he left the party shortly after.
Couldn't count how many thank yous we had after he left.
He left a real stain that took some serious party people effort to wash off the crowd.
Nice.
Everybody was unaware.
Douchebag!
Nobody knew.
Nobody knew.
Nobody knew, especially Hillary.
Now, one troubling thing is part of how this is being spun into, again, more hate against men.
And unless you want to do something in the interim, this will be the last thing I have.
I just want to play this couple of minutes of Jane Fonda with Christiane Annenpoel because, you know, I think she does think like a lot of women, certainly in the United States.
You okay?
Oh, I'm always highly entertained by whatever Fonda does.
I'm glad it's coming out.
I'm so proud of those fellow actors that are speaking up.
And I know that it's taken a long time.
It's a very, very, very hard thing to do.
You don't get anything out of it.
Oh, by the way, preface, preface.
Fonda claims she didn't know anything.
What she'll say in this interview is she didn't know anything until a year ago, and she'll explain why she didn't know anything.
It's a little more expanded than just the headline we got.
Yeah, I know, and I heard this too, and it's bull crap.
Okay, it's just bull crap.
It's a very, very, very hard thing to do.
You don't get anything out of it as the person who's been victimized, but it's important that it come out.
But, you know, let's not think that this is some unique, horrific This goes on all the time.
In Hollywood?
It's this male entitlement.
In Hollywood and everywhere.
In offices and businesses all over the world.
Yeah, exactly.
She's completely right, because at Department of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano was abusing... Oh, wait a minute.
She's not a man.
Well, she was abusing the men, moving their desks.
Yeah, moving their desks.
Yeah, moving their desks into the bathroom.
Go work there.
Shut up.
It was horrible.
You stupid man.
It was the most covered up scandal that I've ever seen.
And it was published.
The New York Post kept writing about it until no one cared.
There's no celebrities who came out.
No one said this is horrible.
Yeah, it happens.
In bars, in restaurants, in stores, women are assaulted, abused, harassed.
...seen for just being sexual objects there for a man's desire instead of as whole human beings.
Did that ever happen to you?
Uh-huh.
What?
You know, I get a kick out of her.
She was, like, promoting herself as a sex pot.
Barbarella.
Barbarella.
Yeah, Barbarella.
And had a couple ribs removed so she could have a more noticeable shape.
Is that true?
I think it is true.
And look at the work she's had done that she got irked about when Megyn Kelly even mentioned it.
I mean, give me a break, lady!
As whole human beings.
Did that ever happen to you?
It has happened to me.
It has.
I only met Harvey when I was old.
And Harvey goes for young, because that's more vulnerable.
She certainly knows him.
You know, but it's very, very common.
Bill Cosby, you know, another example of Hollywood.
But, you know, Dominique.
Strauss-Kahn?
Strauss-Kahn!
Oh, yes, that's right!
Dominique Strauss-Kahn, how could we forget?
You know what?
While you're naming other people from other industries, what about Al Gore, humping the poor massage lady like a poodle?
Isn't it time to call him out?
Isn't it time?
Hello, Al Gore?
Yeah, and can I interrupt?
I was just thinking, would you see anything that you might want to massage?
Yeah, Al Gore.
Come on, but isn't it time for him to fry a little bit?
Yeah, maybe, she did an email with Gore, for sure.
For example, he's not in Hollywood, but this, you know, this is not unique.
This goes on at the most horrendous high levels.
What do you think Hollywood men should do right now?
Studio heads, leading actors?
Because it can't just be the women who have to be brave enough.
Especially, as you say, most of them were young, fledgling careers.
That's right.
Let's go to another Hollywood man.
How about Terry Crews?
That's actor Terry Crews in one of his Old Spice ads.
He says the Harvey Weinstein scandal is giving him PTSD, reminding him of when an unnamed Hollywood executive sexually assaulted him.
Now, in a 16-part tweet yesterday, Crews said, quote, my wife and I were at a Hollywood function last year and a high-level Hollywood executive came over to me and groped my privates, end quote.
He went on to say if he had reacted how he wanted to, this would be the headline.
Quote, 240 pound black man stomps out Hollywood honcho.
Wow, that's your excuse?
Because you were afraid of creating a racial storm?
Fuck you.
Fuck you, Cruz.
Back to Jane.
We have to be helped by men.
It's important to know that not all men are predators.
Thank you!
There are good men, and the good men have to stand up and defend us and embody other ways of being.
We have to believe the women who come forward.
We have to speak out.
I found out about Harvey about a year ago, and I'm ashamed that I didn't say anything right then.
Why didn't you?
You're so bold.
You're so bold and so brave.
Come on, Hanoi!
I was not that bold.
No, it's okay.
She's honest.
She wasn't that bold, so you're also part of the problem.
Because I guess it hadn't happened to me, and so I didn't feel it was my place.
How did you know?
Well, she's admitting the exact problem.
One of the women who has spoken out, Rosanna Arquette, told me, and it, you know, it came as a shock and a great disappointment.
This male entitlement.
What did she say to you?
This isn't male entitlement.
Hold on a second.
That's the other thing that's going on with this.
This is generalizing.
Male entitlement.
This guy's just a pervert.
Give me a break.
Now I have to say, because I'm sure that the women in your life say the same thing.
Yes, women get harassed all the time.
In all kinds of workplaces.
Not denying that at all.
But not by all... It is a big... My dad was like this.
God, I hated the shit he would do.
Well, there's a bunch of guys, I've told stories on the show.
God, I hate this.
I hate these guys.
The guys in the air pollution district like to harass waitresses.
But harassing and poking around and doing one thing is different than a guy who comes to a party that you just read the synopsis of.
He comes to a party and makes such a scene that everyone's thankful when he leaves is not a classic anything.
He's a singular perverted douchebag.
Yeah.
Yes, but there are a lot of these types of douchebags and it's not entitlement.
It's something else.
It's passed on.
It's douchebaggery.
And you can say there's a lot of them, which seems to be part of the litany.
I think you've been suckered into saying.
What about that party that you just discussed?
There was a lot of people at that party.
How many of them were Harvey Weinstein-like?
None.
Just him.
And I think if you generalize about Hollywood, I don't think you're going to find too many, oh yeah, there's a guy who makes a pass at someone or grabs a breast now and again.
We have a clip of something we wanted to use because it has a nice little phrase in it from the list, which you might want to get to.
Yeah, I'm going to open up the list right now.
I think it hurts the cause, especially the cause that women have, to generalize that this is some sort of male entitlement.
There's no entitlement here.
This guy is an off-the-rails perv, period.
A total agreement.
I'm just saying that there is a large group of men who are not the same as Weinstein, but definitely use their... I don't know how large the group is.
How many do you know?
Well, I'm gonna start with my own father.
I'll start right there.
Okay, you got one.
I know two guys.
Two guys.
And I know a lot of people.
But I only know of two guys.
And it's not that you don't know about these guys.
Because it gets around.
Everything does in these communities.
Whatever community you're in.
Whether you're a writer community, tech community, whatever.
The word gets around.
Some people never get the word for some reason.
I suppose that could happen to anybody.
But, generally speaking, it's a It's a guy you can point to.
It's not like an epidemic.
Okay, it's alright.
I'm just trying to show some sensitivity towards what's really happening in the male-female world, is just what it is.
But it's not like Weinstein.
I totally agree.
And I too am irked by, you know, male entitlement.
That is absolute... I mean, yeah, I don't like it either.
That is a generalization which is just incorrect.
What did she say to you?
I want to leave that to her to describe what she went through.
Because they say it was an open secret in Hollywood.
I didn't realize that, but I believe that it's apparently it was so common that everybody must have known.
And of course, these kind of men, it's not, it's not only sexual predation.
These tend to be men who treat other people not well.
I mean, not people they need, not people like Meryl Streep or me in my old age, but, um, you know, he didn't treat the people who worked with him.
Well, this is the first time I've heard her talk about how old she is.
You know, twice in a second.
You went beyond that.
She said old age.
Old age.
She went very far with that.
He was just not a nice person.
Although he could be nice when he needed to.
And this is very common among these kind of men.
It's a mindset.
Well, who else then, darling?
You said it happened to you, obviously not with Harvey Weinstein, but in your youth.
Want me to give you an example?
The very first French film that I made, the director didn't speak very good English, and he flew to L.A.
to pitch me the story, which was hard for me to even understand what the story was.
But I remember him saying to me, and I was 20, he said to me, you know, in the movie, your character has to have an orgasm, and I really need to know what kind of orgasms you have.
I gotta try this one myself.
Does that really work?
I'm a French director.
I have a perfect role for you.
But I must understand the nature of your orgasm.
So if we can try that.
So, you know, he wanted me to sleep with him.
That's subtle.
Yes.
That is unbelievable.
Really?
Oh, well, I have a quick interrupt interrupting type story.
I was hanging out with a kind of an empresario of nightclothes, I think kind of Boston mob based.
A story I have not whored, whored, heard.
I'm liking it.
Never whored it.
I never whored it in my life.
The guy makes the comment, the guy makes the comment, yeah, well, I wasn't getting laid much until I learned how to lie to women.
Oh, I've read this quote.
You have told me this privately, maybe.
That's probably it.
Maybe.
And I always was taken aback by that.
And then I realized the first time I went to New York City, I was hanging out with them when they had all this unbelievable bar scene up on the upper first and second.
And it was just about this when the bars were open.
It was a city that never slept and all that.
That went away very quickly.
But it was true until about 1985.
And I remember seeing these guys in the bar.
With these pickup lines that were just, how dumb are you to believe this person?
They're all casting guys.
A lot of it had to do with show business.
They had phony cards, you know, that said they were executives at CBS or whatever.
And they were all trying to just bed these women.
And it was just a, just a kind of a, kind of a snake pit of liars.
And, uh, which then when they met the guy from Boston, that's when I realized what the hell is going on everywhere.
Right.
We don't have to finish the clip.
But what happens is she didn't sleep with him, got the role anyway, the guy was nice and she never reported him.
She says she didn't sleep with him.
Do we know that for a fact?
It doesn't matter.
He tried a sexual advances, she should have called him out.
But that's different than a guy sneaking into a cabin and jerking off.
And this exiting on the floor business.
I mean, this whole MO is very odd.
It's very sick.
Yeah.
Yeah, and it's written into his contract, and he's going to get his job back, probably.
No one's going to talk much about that, because this is all about burning Hillary.
And you're probably right, because Hillary is so dogged, she thinks she's going to run for president again, and she's going to ruin it for everybody if she tries, because she's got the mechanism.
She does.
She's got the machine.
She's got the money.
It's still in place.
And she's got the women.
So do you think that maybe she was banking on Harvey?
That she was really banking on it, like bank banking on Harvey?
I wouldn't be surprised.
They claim that some reports that she at least received at least 1.4 million during this last campaign.
He's a bundler.
He's a bundler.
And he's a bundler.
She is, but I believe you're right.
She is going to, they have to drop another shoot because you can't take somebody out like that with one punch.
And there's such a close connection between Weinstein, the Weinsteins and the Clintons.
It's, it's, you know, close, like next door neighbors close.
So they got to have something else up.
Okay.
Well, that's, I like that.
I like that as a, as a theory, we need to be on the lookout for clues.
Yeah.
For the next thing.
And then see when you spot it in advance, that'd be cool.
Uh, I'm done with Harvey.
Are you done?
Everything good with the Harvey Meister?
Hurricane Harvey?
Yeah, I think so.
I got one more clip, but I'm not going to.
It's not important.
Why don't we take a quick break and get a look at or take a look or take a listen to the week's news as brought to you by NPR.
This is the most important stories and see if you can find the common denominator amongst this wrap up of the most important news of the week.
A heck of a week.
The President cutting health subsidies for the poor, making some big changes on the Affordable Care Act front by executive order.
De-certifying, today's the day for that, we're told, the Iran deal.
Smacking around Puerto Rico a little bit, talking about helping them as well, but some tough language there.
Senator Bob Corker, Republican, saying Trump risks starting World War III with his public language and comments.
Trump, facetious I guess, but still challenging the Secretary of State to an IQ test after the reports that Rex Tillerson called him a moron.
Trump threatening the free press in very specific terms.
We'll talk about why, but kind of remarkable language there.
We've got the Clean Power Plan scrapped this week, California burning, and all of us with that on our minds.
And of course, yes, the Harvey Weinstein sexual harassment, assault, rape.
You can join us this hour.
What do you think?
Will the president's moves kill Obamacare?
Is that all the news NPR has?
It's just Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
Hell of a week with Trump.
Nothing else in the world happening.
Nothing to see here.
Their agenda is showing.
It's unbelievable.
That is the worst rundown I've ever heard, if you want to do just general news stuff.
It's all there is, nothing else to talk about.
Moron, IQ test, all the memes.
It's great.
Wow, where'd you get that?
That's NPR.
What is that?
Where's the preface?
I never heard that rundown.
Oh, he does that, it's on point, Tom Ashbrook.
Yeah.
One of our producers listens to NPR religiosity.
And he's always sending me a rundown so I can literally pick and choose.
You know, we want to pull that.
And you run it every Sunday.
That's much better than the this week bullcrap that I've been... Yeah, you're right.
We want to have his rundown.
The most important... His rundown is dynamite.
The most important stories of the week.
This week in Trump.
Yes.
Yes.
Well, there's more hate Trump's love stories.
Let me see.
George Lopez, it's finally happening, we knew it would.
George Lopez was at a gala before.
I guess when, it never really happened with me, but whenever you're asked to do something at a non-profit, if you are some form of actual star, not like a D-Liberty from MTV or worse, a podcaster, you get paid for these events.
And it was a gala for juvenile diabetes in Denver last week.
And he started doing Trump jokes.
And then there was some guy in the front.
He said, Hey, I just donated $250,000.
Would you mind just like laying off the present?
I'm just not in the mood to hear it.
This is about kids and diabetes.
And he kept going.
And then the audience wasn't responding.
And he says, Are you what?
El Chapo people?
What's going on?
And he got booed off the stage.
Nice.
Yeah, it's about time.
I was mentioning Mimi was down here for comedy day, which she works, and she says every comic comes up Trump, Trump, Trump.
It's very tiresome.
And Mel Brooks, of course, came out and says that Trump has ruined comedy because these guys are, they're not, these jokes aren't funny.
Wait, it's Trump?
Trump's to blame?
He's got a Cheeto face.
I mean, this is not funny material.
But Trump is to blame?
It's not the comics who can't come up with anything better?
It's actually Trump who's being blamed?
No, no, Brooks said that, no, he's obviously not blaming Trump, but he's blaming the fact that Trump won and these comics are preoccupied because they can't come up with anything else.
It's ruined, you know, the scene is not Trump, Trump, Trump.
I mean, Jimmy Kimmel is a good example.
I do admire the fact that Fallon came out and says he's not going there.
I didn't catch any of that.
That's what he said.
That's the latest.
Fallon actually did an interview saying, I'm not doing that.
I'm not going to do a hate Trump night show.
It's just not, I don't see the point of it.
And yeah, so I said, cause he's got a, you know, you got to, It's pointless, and Kim was, meanwhile, backpedaling on it.
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
All the rest of, you know, the stuff that he's doing.
I sure hope he finds some time to talk about the 85 people killed in Mogadishu.
Yeah?
You think?
Nah, no one gives a shit.
As long as it's in America.
Trump.
Trump.
Is Trump responsible?
No?
Alright, next story.
That's how it works in newsrooms everywhere.
125 psychologists and other mental health professionals marched on lower Broadway Saturday to demand President Trump be thrown out of office!
Yeah, because that's just the way it works.
You just demand, he gets thrown out, and he gets thrown out.
It's just so simple.
And even though it would have been a great sign, they didn't say, and we marched for the 25th, because that's what they really want to do.
They want to use the constitutional clause, the way it's being described, that allows presidents to be ousted when their cabinets decide they are unable to discharge the powers and duty of their job.
And this says, so is he, Harry Seagal, Cornell University psychologist says, we can sense the power of Trump's underlying fear that he is worthless and weak by how intensely he resists and retaliated against any criticism.
Yeah.
No matter how minor, he can't let anything go.
Michelle Golland, also a clinical psychologist, agreed, quoting, excuse me, We're actually suffering from his narcissistic personality.
He has no empathy.
You can feel it.
The way he spoke about the San Juan mayor.
She has PTSD and our president mistreats her.
She's re-victimized.
That's a narcissist.
Really?
Re-victimize.
Now I can play my Geraldo clip about Puerto Rico.
Here we go.
He's from Puerto Rico.
His family's there.
I guess he had an island there which he might have sold.
Your family lives there.
You're from Puerto Rico.
You used to own an island down there?
I did until four months before the storm hit.
And the island survived, ironically.
Everything is fine.
The solar panels.
How is that ironic?
I don't know why it's ironic.
Maybe it's just... Because it's all about him.
It's about him.
It's ironic.
And it's available on Airbnb, I'm sure.
Survived, ironically.
Everything is fine.
The solar panels, the pool, everything is fine.
Everything's fine.
The pool, the solar panels, it's all great.
I'm so glad you asked me about Puerto Rico because I want to say this about the president.
He has been getting the worst, most dishonest press about his visit to Puerto Rico.
It is staggering to me how unfair, how grotesquely unfair the reporting has been.
For example, I can attest because I saw it with my own eyes that 90, 95% of Everyone he came in physical contact with or who lined the routes were all enthusiastic about his visit.
And the president is right about something else.
He is right about the fact that the infrastructure in Puerto Rico was an absolute disaster before Hurricane Maria.
It is a dysfunctional system.
It is a corrupt system.
The power authority should be in jail.
They have used the public Puerto Rican Electric Authority as their own private piggy bank.
They should privatize energy in Puerto Rico.
They were awful before the hurricane.
70% of Puerto Rico was out of power before Maria hit.
- Oh, okay. - The Irma was a glancing blow.
Last year, three days, it was one fire, one power plant.
Three days, the entire island was blacked out.
We should bring in whoever it takes, bring in GE, bring in the Chinese, bring in somebody to buy that power company, run it as a business, and give people reliable.
I can't have my Aunt Ellie sitting in the dark anymore.
On the island with the pool and the solar panels.
That's a good point though.
It's a good point.
It was a mess before the hurricane struck.
Yeah, but no, here's a look at the news for this week.
President's bad.
Well, he wants an IQ test.
He is kind of a moron, though.
I have to admit.
Weird shit.
Well, let's see what we got here.
You know, I'm trying to get a rundown.
I have a rundown of what happened this week, according to CBS.
Trump, I ramp—because I want to play this new head of DHS from Democracy Now!, which kind of tells the story a little differently than we're getting from the mainstream media about this woman.
President Trump says he plans to nominate Kirstjen Nielsen to serve as the next homeland security secretary.
John Kelly, Trump's previous homeland security secretary, now serves as Trump's chief of staff.
Nielsen's a longtime DHS official, recently serving as Kelly's chief of staff.
Under President George W. Bush, she was the senior director for preparedness and response at the White House Security Council, ahead of Hurricane Katrina.
She was subsequently singled out in congressional reports as one of the key figures in the Bush administration, who had been warned about the impending catastrophe of Katrina, but failed to act.
I'm glad you picked up on this, because I have not looked into her background at all.
First is a firm called Civitas Group and then founding the security firm Sunsis Consulting.
I'm glad you picked up on this because I have not looked into her background at all.
Who is this woman?
Well, she's apparently an old Washington, D.C.
hack, the kind of people that they don't want in there, and who goes back and forth between the private sector and the public sector, and has worked her way up to, of all things, to be the head of Homeland Security, which is not a minor role.
No.
I find it actually kind of fascinating that anyone could manage to do this.
Let's see where she comes.
She graduated from Georgetown School of Foreign Service with a J.D.
from the University of Virginia School of Law.
So she is a spook.
I don't know if she's a spook.
She has the earmarks.
That's the earmarks.
Let's see.
She was Elaine Duke's chief of staff at Department of Homeland Security and informally performed the role of White House deputy chief of staff Since Kelly resumed office as White House Chief of Staff.
And then she became Secretary of Homeland Security.
Oh, okay.
So she was doing something.
She was running.
She was interim Chief of Staff momentarily that we maybe not heard about.
Didn't realize that.
And she was Chief of Staff of the White House.
Yeah.
She, yeah.
Right.
Cause.
Oh, Deputy Chief of Staff.
I'm sorry.
Deputy, Deputy, Deputy.
Got it.
Hmm.
Yeah, that is interesting for her.
I don't think she really has the background for that role, honestly.
No, I don't think so either.
It's all been like really sharing people.
She's an administrative assistant, glorified.
I mean, she's Kelly's assistant.
He's the chief of staff.
She's not.
Well, it certainly blows the whole Sessions will go there out of the water.
By the way, what happened to the hate for Sessions?
Did that just end or was that just a media frenzy?
It's part of the cycle.
Yeah, you're right.
Maybe it should come up again.
Maybe that should be next.
Well, it will come up again.
No, no, I'm saying maybe we have Sessions is next in rotation.
Yeah, I think so.
There's so many items.
We made that long list of items, which I don't know if you have any more.
I have it somewhere.
I have a long list of items.
Why Trump's an idiot.
He's a moron.
The Russians stole the election.
And one thing after another.
And this is a long list.
Yeah.
He's a sexual pervert.
He's incompetent.
There's one thing after another.
And they come and they push one agenda, or one meme, let's say, and then another, and then they move to the next, to the next, to the next.
And Sessions is in there, and he'll come up again in the rotation.
Right now, I think the rotation is headed toward Russia.
Russia?
Yeah.
That's what it looks like to me.
It looks like they're They got that Harvey Weinstein thing that can make the association, it's a sex thing, as you say, and Trump is a sex fiend just like Harvey Weinstein.
Right.
Which is bullcrap if there ever was anything that's bullcrap.
And I see this slow transition back to the Russian thing, and we also have that he's a madman, we gotta get that in there.
But it rotates.
So Sessions will be back in the picture shortly.
Yes, oh for sure, for sure.
Well, regarding Russia then, the only new news that I got is that the Russian Facebook, Twitter, Google, YouTube, Tumblr ad campaigns, also on Instagram, also included part of a campaign with Pokemon Go.
They're so smart, these Russians.
They know exactly where to get the stupid Americans.
That's the problem.
We need re-education.
Put people in some FEMA camps.
Make them understand.
We're stupid.
I love it.
We'll do anything for a video game.
Well, let's play the long, this is a long clip, but this is a Trump rap from one of the networks that kind of keeps us up to what's what's in the news.
A little better, I think, than the NPR guy.
Oh, yeah, but that's NPR.
It should be, you know, it should be world affairs, all kinds of interesting topics.
We'll show you this, but this is just Trump.
Iran is not living up to the spirit of the deal.
A day after Donald Trump's broadside against the nuclear deal, Iranians are digesting the news and trying to figure out what it means.
It is possible their country's economy will take another hit.
But Iran's Foreign Minister Jawad Zarif, who sat down with CBS News today, thinks President Trump's decertification has above all damaged America's reputation.
Nobody else would trust any U.S.
administration to engage in any long-term negotiation.
In his response to Donald Trump, Iran's president hinted his country might now expand its conventional weapons program, which would add fuel to the fiery rhetoric blazing between Washington and Tehran.
No sooner had the deal been signed that the Revolutionary Guard began testing missiles.
It was, at the very least, provocative.
Because the United States is selling hundreds of billions of dollars worth of so-called beautiful military equipment to countries in this region.
He means to Iran's arch enemies, especially Saudi Arabia.
We need to defend our people.
At Friday prayers this week in Tehran, there was the usual chant of death to America.
In recent years, Iranians have come... Did they still do that?
I didn't hear them go death to America.
I didn't hear them go... Well, I think it's in Persian, but yes, according to her, she... They still do that?
Yeah, she claims that it doesn't... She has a little explanation.
Tehran, there was the usual chant of death to America.
In recent years, Iranians have come to see this more as a stale ritual than a real battle cry.
But after Donald Trump's aggressive speech on Friday, that could certainly change.
Come on, that's just guessing.
That could certainly change with his rhetoric.
Yeah, it changed my rhetoric.
I'm thinking this, if we're going to listen to some of our own theses.
As opposed to our own feces.
If the military intelligence group took over the White House from the CIA, the Central Intelligence, DIA, took over from CIA, which we've discussed as a possibility, is it possible that their idea of a good time is going to be a lot different than the CIA's?
And they would like to see, because it was mentioned in this report, They would actually enjoy seeing an Iran or Iran-Saudi Arabia war, general war in the Middle East, because there's a proxy war right now going on in Yemen, which is... It's bad if you're in Yemen.
Yeah, if you're in Yemen, you're in the middle of a proxy war between the Saudis and the Iranians.
With us refueling and doing other groovy things.
Well, yeah, we're giving the money to the Saudis to kill innocent people.
And is it possible that there is a scenario that somebody has written down, a game, a war game, a war scenario, something that shows that would be beneficial to the United States for a general war to break out between Iran and Saudi Arabia?
Because Saudi Arabia's kept out of the whole fray, but until this Yemen thing came up.
And they're all in on that.
So, and it doesn't take much logic to take it to the next level if you're going to be fighting the Iranians in Yemen.
You might as well just fight them in general area.
Right, right.
But the Iranians don't really do that.
They don't really like to, they like to fund other people.
They don't like to fight.
Well, no, but they were all in on the war against Iraq, so they do have a warlike tendency.
I mean, they weren't not fighting.
And so it's not that we haven't seen it within our just recent memory that the Iraqis and the Iranians were at a full-blown war.
Well, let's listen to the President's own words.
Well, I'm sorry, they're not his words.
They're teleprompter words, which he is delivering.
My fellow Americans, as President of the United States, my highest obligation is to ensure the safety and security of the American people.
Yeah, no, I'm really, really, really sorry.
Who is writing this for you?
You may feel that's your responsibility, but the oath you took is to defend and uphold the Constitution.
Yes, we fall under that, but please.
I hate it.
It pisses me off.
It really does.
History has shown that the longer we ignore a threat, the more dangerous that threat becomes.
For this reason, upon taking office, I've ordered a complete strategic review of our policy toward the rogue regime in Iran.
That review is now complete.
Today, I am announcing our strategy, along with several major steps we are taking to confront the Iranian regime's hostile actions and to ensure that Iran never, and I mean never, agains.
Acquires a nuclear weapon.
Alright, so here's the problem with the thesis, and I like it, and it sounds like, you know, this is indeed part of the plan, and so you're never gonna have a nuclear weapon, we'll put a stop to it.
The problem with Iran is they don't have a dude.
There's no one to point at.
You know, that Shah guy, no one, eh, it's too confusing.
People don't understand if he has power because they got some president.
They need a bad hat.
We can't sponsor an information war against Iran if we don't have a baddie.
I think it's a real problem.
Well, that can be resolved with good public relations.
Right, so let's be on the lookout for it.
If that is the mission, they've got to have it.
OK, let's just let's make the assumption that the DIA running the White House and the president, the executive office, once a war between... Military intelligence.
Let's just make it clear.
Yeah, military intelligence.
We'll use that.
Once a war between the Saudis and the Iranians, for whatever reason, Take over the oil, we don't know.
Or just have it.
Well, we can sell stuff.
Yeah, we can sell a lot of stuff, that's true.
It's a moneymaker for us, if it's done right.
If the plan is executed properly.
Yeah, so let's see if things head in that direction.
Yeah, we'll just have to wait.
We do have a little episode with Cutter.
Which is another little sore point that again, I'm sure NPR mentioned that in their rundown about the craziness going there.
I guess not.
No.
With the Qatar and the Saudis having a beef with them and the Iran.
Qatar is advertising everywhere.
CNBC and other business channels, they're advertising.
Qatar open for business.
This is just, this is an unfair block, you know, screw Saudi Arabia.
Come on over and join us.
It's all groovy here.
This could be, if orchestrated correctly, this could be quite interesting to watch.
Yeah.
Well, we will be watching.
I'm looking for a bad hat to arise.
I don't know how they do it.
I don't think there's any election schedule.
We need someone to be the bad guy.
You need to say, that guy is killing his own people, or... Come on, you know how it works.
That's the basic one.
It's the basic building blocks of what we do.
Well, with that...
I'd like to thank you for your courage.
That's it, in the morning to you, John, C-U-S-E stands for Compositing Russia Stories for the Trump Cycle, Dvorak.
Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry, also in the morning to all ships that see boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
Yes, in the morning to, let me bring it up here, Josh Shatorium.
Now, Joshua Torian brought us the artwork for episode 9 or 7.2.
Title of that was Menprovement, which is not caught on yet, but we're still waiting.
Menprovement.
This was Taylor Swift, the patriotic 2020 presidential kind of photo of her with the stars and stripes in the background and the White House.
I can't remember why it was so good.
Oh, I can remember.
Yeah.
We looked at all the different art and we said, well, you know, a picture of Taylor Swift.
Oh, that's right.
Always a winner.
You're right.
It's like, you know, there's nothing against Taylor Swift on your album art.
It always works.
It's cheap, but we're doing it.
Yeah.
And I, until we get a letter.
You're right.
I forgot.
That's exactly why we did it.
Yeah.
Because we had notes like, oh, Taylor Swift wouldn't run for office.
Yeah, a bunch of complainers.
Well, we only have two people here to thank.
And we do have a third, which is because the checks didn't get posted.
Oh, OK.
I'm just going to move the third.
And hold on.
To Thursday's show.
I'm going to tell Patrick Mealy in bountiful Utah that he's going to get moved.
And Gage, his son, he's giving a knighthood to.
Hopefully we got all birthdays and stuff off the checks if we're lucky.
Oh, this is the only, there's none.
Okay, good.
All right, good.
The only thing here is this thing to Gage is a late birthday present because he was turned 18 in September, which is last month.
So let's go with what we got.
Kelly Sandland is the executive producer for show 973.
She came in at $333.33.
No note.
Keep doing what you're doing.
Boom.
Thank you.
And Jay and Tay.
There's one on the boomometer.
Keith Gibson, $200, will be our associate executive producer.
And he just says, dealer's choice on the jingles.
Well, dealer's choice.
I'd like to pick an Obama if, if, if, if you can find it.
Yeah, I think so.
Obama if.
Let's see what we have.
I think it has to be if, if, if, doesn't it?
If, if, if.
Yeah, every time you look for it, you can never find it.
Yeah, I'm not sure what that is.
Obama if?
If, if, if.
Okay, how about this?
How about, uh, Greg, just form a circle and give a big hug, uh, that, that old-fashioned, uh, that old clip that's, uh, tell a secret.
Okay.
No, there's no competition.
Yes.
Yes, I have that one.
Uh, okay, that's a favorite of mine.
That's all you want?
Only that one?
You want an if, if, if?
Well, no, I had the if, if, if.
If, if, if.
Dammit.
Obama stutter?
Why can't I find this?
This is really bad.
Yeah, this one needs to be re- It does.
Yeah, it does.
Let's do this every time you look for the if, if, if.
I'm not sure what's going on.
Oh, there's no winning.
We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot.
Now everyone hug and share a secret.
You've got karma.
I have this.
I have this.
We've seen more manufacturing jobs created since I've been president than any time since the 1990s.
But frankly, part of it's all to do with a bunch of okey-doke.
That's a fact.
Better crappin' now.
That's a good one.
That's alright.
I forgot about that one.
We have better ones.
That's a good one.
That's all right.
I forgot about that.
We have better ones.
Yeah.
I want to mention about there's no competition.
We just hug and share a secret.
There's an article that came out on Zero Hedge about Home Depot fearful, which is something we talked about recently, that the millennials, they don't even know how to use a hammer.
They can't hammer a nail.
Really?
Yeah, and they don't know what to do about it, so they come out with videos to show people how to use a hammer and nail.
I mean, it's just unbelievably idiotic.
This goes back to our home ec conversation.
Home ec and shop classes are no longer available to kids because of liabilities.
Liability, of course.
Liability.
So there's no shop classes.
There's no auto shop, which used to have one.
You can't do anything with autos anymore anyway, John.
You can't get in there.
It's all tightened up and it's all locked down.
You can't get in.
Yeah.
And that's true, but you can still build a car from scratch or you could maybe learn how to tune up a fuel injection system.
I mean, there's new things you can do that would be appropriate in auto shop.
Wood shop, they used to have, they used to have metal shop in one of the schools I went to.
So they had the three kinds of shop for the boys and they had home ec and a couple of other classes for women.
Although they, you'd see women in the wood shop class too.
But then you learn how to, you know, use a screwdriver.
Do you think, uh, do they still do the, we had this, where you have to partner, boy, girl have to partner up and you have to have a baby that's a doll and you have to take care of the doll for the weekend together?
Yeah, that's never happened.
I've never seen that.
Maybe I'm, I'm pre, I pre-date that bullshit.
Yeah, it was around for sure.
I'm sure it was, and I'm sure it came after I was... it came in real good time.
Hey, was that it?
Was that it for the donations?
Yeah.
Yeah, man, I can't take this roller coaster.
Yeah, it goes from up to down, up to down.
Yeah, I know.
Even if we had the extra one, it'd only been one more.
Disturbing.
Which will be on the next show.
And there's also some guy promised a big giant check, but it never showed up.
Skeptical.
All right.
Well, we want to thank our sole executive producer and sole associate executive producer for coming in and helping us out as best they could.
But I'm just looking at this list.
It's going to be a short second donation segment as well.
What is going on?
It's weird.
I can't put my finger on it.
We always have to wonder if it's a message.
There's a pre-collapse of the economy.
Yes, Armageddon is nigh, I'm sure.
Well, these of course are official credits, so you can take them, put them in our business cards, put them on your LinkedIn, join a guild if you want to, the Producers Guild will recognize it.
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We'll be thanking more people, $50 and over later on in the second segment.
And remember our show coming up on Thursday, Dvorak.org.
And of course, the rest of the weekend, you got your Sunday left to go out there and propagate the formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Yes.
Yes, yes, yes.
yes yes yes yes okay hey poop update So.
Oh, okay.
This is, yeah, you know, you've seen the poop app.
This is all based on your story about Hepatitis A. Yeah.
In San Francisco, in the general San Francisco area.
Well, the San Diego's worse.
San Diego is where it's the worst?
Okay.
Now we may have an answer to why this is happening, why this all of a sudden sped ahead.
And if it's true, and I think it's reasonable, it shows you how sometimes the best social justice movements can result in undesired movements.
And the... I got it.
Go.
No.
I got the joke.
Oh, you got the joke.
Oh, okay.
There was a joke in it.
You didn't know?
Yeah, I did.
But it wasn't meant to, like, be deconstructed.
No, this is because of the plastic bag ban.
There's no more plastic bags for the homeless people to poop in.
Oh, that's an interesting little observation.
It's not just a little observation.
I think it's huge.
Here, uh, this is, uh... Homeless Man Who Writes the Homeless Survival Guide.
Said, the hepatitis outbreak was completely predictable.
It's why I left San Diego.
Umm...
Absolutely, we know people use bags for that, said the San Diego County Public Health Officer Wilma Wooten.
We know people don't have bathrooms and they can't- they can put bags in cans and buckets and maintain good hygiene.
That's why we put plastic bags in the hygiene kits we're handing out.
Oh, okay.
That'll solve it.
You take away millions of plastic bags and now you're gonna hand out little kits.
Little hygiene kit.
Here's your poop bag.
Here's your toothbrush.
Don't confuse them.
I mean, come on.
That's a very good observation.
And I didn't know this, but Hepatitis A, spread by contact with feces or blood, we knew that, but even a trace amount that's months old?
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
You have to heat it to 185 degrees to kill it?
It can live for months outside the body?
Holy moly.
Yeah, it's a very bad actor.
Geez.
Maybe this is a new product we can...
Launch.
What?
The No Agenda Shit Kit.
Just an idea.
I walked right into that one.
Yes, you did.
So, uh, well, while you're on that, the idea of some of these things, this is, you know, these things last, the diseases and the horrible things that are going to happen.
Uh, I didn't clip the whole thing cause it went on forever, but cause there's this show, it's, I think it's called DW World.
That I pull some crazy clips from every so often, this is one of them.
Yeah.
But this is a classic example, because I remember there's this one guy, I can't quite remember his name, who's on London's talk show, who's always condemning people who despise the EU for their frivolous laws.
Play the Pomfret versus the EU story.
Did you know that the French fry is in fact not French, but rather Belgian in origin?
I did!
Belgian fry doesn't quite roll off the tongue in the same way, but they are delicious.
One reason for this is the country's unique double fry method.
I do just want to say one thing.
You know I am an expert in the fry arena.
Well, I'm glad for you.
No, just saying.
I will be listening.
And you can comment when I, after this clip is over, I'm going to make some, tell you some more stuff that was in the furtherance of the clip.
And then I want you to tell me, using your expertise, what's going on.
I think we did this story, by the way.
We didn't have a clip, but we did the story.
This is pretty new, and there's news rotation that just came out this weekend.
We did the story.
Okay.
For this is the country's unique double fry method, rendering the spuds crispy on the outside and soft on the inside.
But this beloved dish is now being threatened by European Union laws on food.
The rest of Europe often complains about bureaucracy coming out of Brussels.
But now it seems bitterness is being tasted closer to home.
This summer, Brussels was the site of an unusually delectable political drama.
At its center, Belgian frites.
Unlike similar tasty treats made elsewhere, here they are lovingly bathed in lots of oil, twice.
First you've got to deep fry or poach the chips in hot oil.
That ensures they stay soft inside.
Then they're fried again to a lovely golden color.
The amount of time depends on the type of potato, on its sugar and starch content.
You need an eye for that.
It's a skill.
You can sense when they're done?
You can sense when they're done?
Oh, yes.
In Belgium, we can tell when they're ready.
So understandably, Belgium fry aficionados weren't pleased when the EU Commission proposed new guidelines on how the snack should be prepared.
And to add insult to injury, the report called them French fries rather than frites.
Pages of recommendations regarding crispiness, sugar content and pH value.
A change in processing procedure actually began in the early 1970s, when a German fry manufacturer used a machine to cut up the potatoes, which were then blanched.
That is, briefly plunged into boiling water.
The result?
The chips absorbed less oil.
But they also tasted a little bland.
Artificial flavoring took care of that problem, but that's another story.
Then in 2002, acrylamide was discovered in food.
Believed to be carcinogenic, it forms in the frying process when certain foods are heated to a temperature greater than 120 degrees Celsius.
Before you say anything, you said this was brand new news.
I'm not doubting you, I just want to show you how far ahead the No Agenda show is.
This is episode 940, June 22nd.
The commission...
Has come up with a little issue with the Belgians.
You need to know that even though the Dutch... Okay.
So that's when we were talking about it.
Sounds right.
That's how good we are.
So now I'm looking at this report because they showed on the screen in HD the pages of the... which is about 10 pages of rules.
How to cook French fries.
Yeah.
And I'm looking at this and it's like, I gotta get a copy of it because it's like, by the way, the way the story ends, it goes on to big fusses made and people come out with all kinds of bitching and moaning articles and then the EU comes out and says, we're not going to do anything.
Which I think is what we determined in the first time we talked about this.
But I'm looking at these rules and it's discussing the sugar content of the potatoes has to be such and such.
They have a color scale and you have to match the potato chip when it's finished to a color scale with a value.
And you can do that either by comparing it to a chart or by hitting it with some... With a paint chip!
That looks the business right there, yeah.
Perfect.
It went on and on and on with the sugar content and the pH, the finished pH and how long you can leave it in the oil.
It was unbelievable that these guys are that bored.
This is the problem when you have with bureaucrats with nothing to do and they decide to go after something.
Maybe they hate the Belgians.
I don't know.
But they didn't go into the details about the German method of making potatoes with their, you know, boiling the potato first and the rest of it.
But I will say this.
Anyway, I just thought I was aghast by the story, but I wanted, just since we're going to talk about french fries, just for a second, you're a french fry expert.
I have found that, for one thing, I have played with this double cooking idea forever, because it shows up in the Joy of Cooking, and it shows up in Julia Child's cookbooks.
Yeah, and it's double frying, really.
Yeah, you fry it a little bit, and you take it, and then you fry it again.
I have found that it does nothing.
And it doesn't do crap.
I'm more concerned about the potato itself than the methodology for cooking the potato.
I will say one thing for people who like to make French fries at home, that if you can find, if they have them, the German butterball potato.
If turned into French fries is an absolutely remarkable product because it actually ends up looking like it was coated or something when it's cooked.
It doesn't just make a smooth surface, it's got a kind of a crinkly little thing going on in the cooking process and it's a fabulous tasting French fry.
Generally speaking, when I do French fries... Can I just say one thing about what I know about the frying process in Belgium of the Frito?
I live there and of course... Sure, yeah.
It's two different types of oils at different temperatures.
And what are those temperatures?
And what are the fuels?
That I don't know.
But I know that it's, they have a pre-fry, and they have the, let's say, yeah, the pre-fry four, and then the main fry.
Right.
I think it's two different kinds of oils.
That makes, well, it makes sense.
Because you have different specific heats in each oil.
Yeah, yeah, different heats for different temperatures of the oil.
Generally speaking, I cook in safflower oil, which has a high specific heat.
You can really get it hot.
And I use If I can, if it's normal potatoes, as opposed to the German butterball, I will use a five millimeter size chip, which is close to being shoestrings, but it's not.
And do you cut that yourself?
Yes, but I don't do five millimeters.
That's how I use one of those slider things that you can kill yourself with, those horrible wrench devices.
Slice a half of your finger off.
Those are my favorite.
But you have to be careful.
You gotta be careful.
My finger!
You have to be very careful with these things.
But five millimeter you get the little five minute because they get the little blades you stick it in this thing and they're five millimeters apart Then you adjust of the vertical by hand and you get a nice five millimeter French fry and it's absolutely killer But safflower oil is what I used to use a safer oil once it's what is the oil?
What is the oil?
Safflower.
I use safflower or sunflower.
Safflower.
Safflower.
Safflower oil is a great high-temperature cooking oil.
Sunflower is a good oil too.
You don't need expeller oil.
In fact, you probably don't want it.
These oils are created from a hexane extraction process, generally.
All those hexanes are toxic.
When you heat the oil up the first time, I don't use any of these hexane oils for salad dressing.
But if you heat it up the first time, if there's any residual hexane, it gets blown off by the heat.
So you're in pretty good shape.
I have long since thought that in the United States, having a frietkot, or as we would say a snack bar, Just selling french fries, like the Dutch do it, but they actually sell it, but you have the, you can have, it's like a food trail, you can have a food truck.
They have, they have exactly what you're describing in New York City.
Yeah, well, you need a lot of them, because people dig that, and it's very cheap, it's a cheap product to make an outstanding tasting dish.
Yeah, I agree.
Hey John, another, another opportunity for us.
Yeah, we can go into the free truck game.
Free truck game.
Very nice.
Well, Zero Hedge also wrote an interesting story.
Maybe it came from somewhere else.
Or maybe it's a reprint.
And I know we brought this up about the Spexit, where Catalonia wants to get out.
I don't really have an update on that at the moment.
But the talk in the European Union is, you know, this is very dangerous or somebody actually won it, who knows.
They talk of the Catalan chain reaction which could set off next on the list would be Flanders and the Flemish and the Walloons.
Yeah.
Where Flanders would want to split off.
I saw there's a little map floating around showing all these little hot spots where this could happen.
How about Wales?
Wouldn't Wales be... I think Wales less likely than Scotland.
Okay.
You got a Friesland?
Yeah, there's a little map floating around showing the real hotspots and I think Basque country is one of them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I think that's pretty reduced and next to nothing.
I really like this French fry truck game idea.
Do you know what the toppings are?
The typical Dutch-Belgian toppings.
And I'll give you the nicknames, too.
So you have French Fry With.
You just say French Fry With.
Yeah, mayonnaise is the number one.
Very creamy mayonnaise.
Then you can have a special, which is mayonnaise, ketchup, and onions.
Then you can have a patatje oorlog, which means a French fry war.
And that is the same as the special.
So you have the mayonnaise, the ketchup, the onions, and you add on some peanut satay sauce.
Satay.
Satay.
Satay sauce.
Yeah, we call it satay saus.
So the peanut satay sauce.
There's a multitude.
I wonder, do they use that peanut sauce in Belgium?
Because that sounds more like a Dutch thing.
Uh, which one?
The satay sauce is just peanuts, peanut sauce.
It comes from Indonesia.
The Dutch would have it because of their trade.
Indonesia.
I'm smacking my lips because I'm hungry now.
I can taste it.
Then the secondary product is croquette, frikandel, hamburgers.
You can sell all kinds of secondary stuff.
But make that, make your french fries, make it the main deal.
It's money in the bank.
Ten dollars!
All righty.
Speaking of oil, our old phrase, peak oil, is back.
Why?
I'm glad you asked.
There's a new meaning to peak oil.
You have just dropped a bombshell off camera and then you've done it again on camera.
Do you think the oil price is plummeting to $10?
Yeah, not in the next few weeks or months or maybe even quarters.
But I think the long-term outlook for oil, because of what's happening in terms of electric vehicles, you know, 70% of oil use is transportation, cars and planes and so on.
So what happens to electric vehicles is really, really important.
And if you look at some of the long-range forecasts, you know, we used to talk about peak oil in terms of supply.
We now need to talk about peak oil in terms of demand.
And I think the year could be somewhere 2023-25, peak oil demand.
Well, the great old Saudi oil minister quote, of course, which we often drag out in moments like this, is the Stone Age didn't end because of lack of stones.
Right, yeah, and that's fascinating, isn't it?
I mean, you know, what's fascinating?
It's like he had rolled right off his tongue.
I never heard it, but I like it a lot.
I like it!
The Stone Age didn't end just because of a lack of stones.
Lack of stones.
Right, yeah, and that's fascinating, isn't it?
But, I mean, you know, what's fascinating?
We forget, I mean, a hundred and twenty... Yeah, he's a dick.
He was like, shut up, you interrupted me.
I'm fascinating.
Let me continue.
Twenty years ago, the world didn't live on oil.
Oil hasn't always driven the global economy.
Yeah, to be fair, although I have got room for a horse, I don't particularly want one.
It's like my daughter.
No, you don't want a horse, but it was coal, and before that it was wood, and there have been other sources of energy.
Excuse me.
But I think the point is, alternative energy, in some forms, is gathering speed.
You know, there's Moore's Law within solar energy.
You gotta be on the lookout for that meme.
Really?
That means every two years the amount of silicon you can pack into a sheet is going to double and the price is going to drop by half?
Boy, that hasn't happened.
Within the cost of it.
I think it's a terrific point, because interestingly it's often new economies and emerging economies that adopt new technologies first.
Because they don't have the old infrastructure that they have to keep servicing.
So it's easier to do that.
Dare I say, a command economy, it's easier to get stuff done.
Everyone says that oil is going to be a very important part of the mix 20, 30, 40 years out.
Yeah, I'm talking about peak oil.
I mean, think of, and you know, the numbers could be not much more than 20 million barrels a day where we are, maybe 25.
I don't want to pin it down too precisely.
It's a big broad range.
But the point is, you know, Saudi still makes its money.
I'd like that little bit at the end.
Everybody loves Canada, but wait until the oil price goes to $10.
Ha ha ha.
Some of the oil companies do.
Dramatically, Canada.
Everyone loves Canada at the moment.
Right.
But they need high prices.
I like that little bit at the end.
Everybody loves Canada, but wait until the oil price goes to $10.
Ha ha ha.
You'll be screwed.
Well, the oil price could go to $20.
I mean, it's happened.
We've seen these fluctuations before, but it really looks very stable at where it is right now, which is at $51.42.
Right.
I like the concept of peak oil as in demand.
Yeah, I like it too.
Because everywhere I go, I hear people talking about electric vehicles.
The hypnosis is complete.
There is no thought at all about the dependents and who then controls your vehicle, or potentially can control your vehicle, and that is your pipeline.
to energy, to electricity, which in some disasters isn't available, but it's also something that gets cut off.
Imagine being in Puerto Rico.
This is very deep inherent belief that once we have the infrastructure in place to recharge or swap out a battery, it's going to be just as easy and you'll have your freedom.
And I'm like, no.
I mean, get a diesel.
It's also hard to convince people that even a modern-day diesel can run on salad oil.
Yes, it can.
You don't have to change anything.
Well, you have to make some adjustments.
No, nothing.
The only adjustment you have to make is you need to be able to heat it in the tubing if it's too cold outside.
That's all.
It will run.
Well, diesel engines are remarkable and I would say if you're a total paranoid freak, that's exactly what you want.
Yeah, that's what I really do want.
I can't afford the diesel version of a truck.
But the gasoline engine, to me, still seems like to be the best alternative when given a choice.
And I agree, this electricity thing is unreliable.
I have a question for you.
Not go very far.
I have a scientific question for you, which struck me.
I can't answer it.
I may sound really stupid.
But John's like, oh, goody.
Oh, yes.
OK.
Let's go.
All right.
The energy that you have in your vehicle, whether that is in my truck, which is gasoline, whether that's in a Tesla, or maybe even a supercar, it doesn't matter.
The amount of energy which is measured in kilowatt hours, and there's other types of measurements that come along with that, that is just the amount of energy that you have to spend on the road with your vehicle.
If you're whether you have a tank full of gas or whether you have a filled up charge, that energy comes from somewhere.
So if you if you have Let's just say for purpose of argument, you have the same range in a Tesla as you do in a midsize car that can go 200 miles radius.
Let's just say it's the same.
But doesn't the amount of energy that ultimately is transferred to the wheels onto the road, that has to come back from somewhere.
And is it so much cheaper To create all of that energy that is stored in the battery than it is to burn it almost straight away in the gas-powered car.
Does that make any sense?
I think what you're trying, I don't know what you're trying to say.
I mean, it might make sense.
I'm asking a question.
The point is, is that you have to get the energy into the battery from some place.
Yeah, and then you've got to take the, creating the battery, you know, all of these things.
Is it, does it really do that much other than possibly?
Does it save money is what you're asking.
Does it really save money when you count the cost of electricity, the cost of generation of the electricity and all the rest of it?
There are some, it seems to be cheaper, that's why you get that 100 mile per gallon equivalency.
It seems to be a little cheaper to use electricity, but electricity is using some power someplace and people think that a gas engine can also provide that same sort of miles per gallon equivalency.
If it was, if the engine was more efficient or there's some new kind of motor that was developed, apparently there's people working on that as we speak.
Not necessarily with the... Maybe it's the ultimate cost-to-power ratio that I should be looking at.
What does it really cost?
Yeah, I think it's a little cheaper.
And it also has got more environmentally friendly.
For sure.
At the car level.
Yes, for sure.
Not necessarily at the power plant level.
Right.
But you lose a lot of electricity through the power line.
So there's a really a lot of wasted energy, no matter what you do.
Right.
But I believe it to be a little cheaper.
I could be wrong.
And there may be an engineer so they can show us a calculation showing it's not cheaper because we do know that these numbers.
The equivalency numbers are one thing.
There's also the fact that these cars are subsidized and you're not really paying what you should be paying for these cars.
So if you're paying $120,000 for a really fancy electric car and you have the gasoline equivalent car that is $75,000, are you saving $50,000?
I don't think so.
you have the gasoline equivalent car that is $75,000.
Yeah.
Are you saving $50,000?
I don't think so.
Yeah.
I don't think so either.
All right.
Well, I notice in my environment, people are all in. - Hmm.
And really forget about- Can you remind us what town you're in?
Oh, Austin.
Yes, Austin.
Blue dot in the red state.
Woo!
I wonder if you went outside of Austin to a normal town- Yeah, you ask the question, you get shot.
It's like, no.
Son, what you doing here, Austin?
What are you doing?
What happens when that electric car electrocutes you?
Hey, let me tell you.
Go look at the training manuals for EMTs on how to disable... Every vehicle has special kill switches you have to pull before you can do anything to it.
Yeah, that includes Priuses.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
The Prius has got a lot of high voltage that could mess with you.
Yeah, mess with you for sure.
All right.
All right, I want to at least do one.
I got two clips.
I want to do two rundowns of the fires because the fires are still going on.
Have we seen any rain?
We have, but further north.
Okay, it's on its way, people.
It's coming.
We've done it.
I'm doubting it.
I have some personal anecdotes.
I mean, the other day there was ash coming down in the Bay Area.
I mean, it wasn't enough to cover anything.
It was just like, oh, look, there's a piece of ash.
Yesterday, the winds shifted around here in the Bay Area.
It was beautiful.
And in fact, it was so nice.
Yesterday, it was clear.
There was no smoke in the air.
It was absolute dynamite, even though they're showing people wearing masks and getting carried away.
And then yesterday evening, I'm going to bring a term into the domain here.
Yesterday evening I went out.
It was like it was one of those perfect evenings in California where it's about 67, 68 degrees.
No wind, no breeze, but still clear.
Beautiful.
It feels great to be outside and in that weather in the evening or in the even the early night.
And the first thing you think if you lived in California, when you feel that feeling that only happens once in a while, you say to yourself, Earthquake weather!
And... That's what I always say!
That's what I was... I went outside, oh man, oh, earthquake weather.
Earthquake weather.
People always mock Californians for saying earthquake weather, but that experience is... that's what earthquake weather is.
And it's always usually in October when there's usually an earthquake.
So... Wow.
That's bullcrap!
There's no such thing.
So let's play...
Let's play the, uh, well, I say you have an earthquake.
It's funny.
Fire update.
Now, I want to say this is Lindsay Janice on ABC, and I have to just do a call out because I've decided that as a reporter, she's always in the field doing something like this.
I think she's the best reporter on all three networks.
Really?
Domestic reporter.
I think she's pleasant to look at.
She presents herself well in terms of the way she does her reads.
I'm sorry, what is her name again?
What is her name?
Lindsay Janis.
J-A-N-I-S, I think.
It's Lindsay, L-I-N-Z-I-E.
She is Just, I mean, when she does a report, it's always thorough.
It's well put together.
It doesn't have a lot of propaganda necessarily in it.
And I just like her reporting.
She's great.
She comes from CNN International in London when she started her career.
Really?
She's got no London accent.
She must have been... Graduated with... Well, she's a real journo.
She graduated with a degree in journalism from the University of the Arts of London.
In London, which is a fine journalism school, I'm sure.
Well, now listen and see if she has a British accent.
She has none.
That's how good she is.
Turn next here to California's deadly and devastating wildfires.
They fear possible worsening winds there this weekend.
Dangerous conditions expected through Sunday.
Winds up to 50 miles an hour.
And look at this tonight.
Smoke 75 miles away in San Francisco.
People wearing masks.
Schools closed today.
ABC's Lindsey Janis in Santa Rosa again tonight amid new stories.
One couple surviving in their neighbor's pool.
The fire all around them.
Tonight, firefighters keeping up the battle to save homes.
I heard it right there in the tonight.
Tonight, in the tonight.
It is very minor.
If you hadn't told me that, I would have never guessed.
No, I wouldn't have known either.
All around them.
Tonight, firefighters keeping up the battle to save homes amid the deadliest week in California fire history.
The enormity of this disaster, we're only beginning to understand.
Harrowing stories of the victims now emerging.
The Shepard family's car catching fire as they fled the flames.
Fourteen-year-old Kai didn't make it.
The rest of the family badly burned.
The fires now larger than New York City.
This is how so much of the battle against these fires is being fought, by hand.
Firefighters spraying and raking the ground, putting out hot spots.
More than 3,500 structures destroyed.
In Sonoma, a team of firefighters saving several homes in just a few hours.
We were just literally running from house to house.
It's super smoky.
It's super hot.
You really can't see very well.
Tonight, with hundreds of people still missing, we're learning incredible stories of survival.
She said, you've got to get out of that house.
Jan and John Pascoe say their daughter called to alert them to the fire.
I looked out my window, and there was a wall of flame out my window.
So that's how fast it happened for us.
We had no warning.
Their only option?
Their neighbor's pool, holding each other in the water.
And countless family pets rescued too.
The Sonoma County Humane Society treating cats with burned paws.
Doing hard work there to help save the animals and that story of the pool is just something, Lindsey.
Lindsey Janis, back with us from Santa Rosa tonight.
And Lindsey, you were telling us they're now estimating the damage to housing alone there at more than a billion dollars already.
That's right, David.
At least 5% of the housing here in Santa Rosa totally wiped out.
The damage estimate, more than $1.2 billion.
And you can see just how quickly people fled.
These three wheelchairs left charred and mangled right outside this house.
Man, what a horrible story.
By the way, she's from Schaumburg, Illinois, which I think is the rich suburb of Chicago.
Well, was that where she's from before she went to London?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And she's married to Good Morning America's senior broadcast producer, John Farrakhan.
Farrakhan.
Farra-chain.
Something like that.
Hey, I like her.
I think she does good work.
Yeah, well, she looks like a real Giorno.
Now, Giorno, you don't have to overdo it.
I do.
So, there's a little snippet I have of this story, and I want to discuss it.
This is from ABC also.
This is the mailman snippet.
Vicky Walker hugging this firefighter to say thank you.
Firefighters across California saving lives, homes, and so many family treasures.
In this image, the mail truck still stopping at mailboxes.
A haunting moment, but still a moment of dedication.
Okay, so here we are.
That's our United States Postal Service, John.
You should be proud of that.
I'm kind of proud of it, but again, I'm thinking maybe they should have some common sense here.
There is a house.
There's a block of houses.
There's not a house there.
It's just, they're gone.
There's nothing.
It's just a mailbox.
But, there's a mailbox and a stick.
What are those made of?
How come they hang around?
I don't know, but this apparently didn't catch on fire.
It's one of those, it's like an RFD box.
It's not like in the house.
It's out by the sidewalk and it's there and the guy is putting mail in it.
There's no house there.
There's just a mailbox.
Oh, Armando, Armando.
I bet you there's a rule about it.
We've got a, we've got a very famous mail carrier here in Austin.
Well, you should get a hold of him and tell him what's the deal.
Yeah.
He's never offended, by the way.
Luckily.
Well, good.
Not going to go postal on us.
Well, we do have, we're pro-post office.
We've always been on the show.
Yeah, it's a great institution.
It's an astonishing product, if you think about it.
Yeah.
It has its issues.
Yeah, but look what they do.
But again, common sense here.
There's no house, but there's a mailbox where he puts mail in it.
It's a truck.
It's that mail truck.
They won't let anybody drive around these areas, but the mail truck's okay.
Good to go.
Now here's my problem.
Why have they not been able to link this to Trump somehow yet?
Well, they haven't.
I think the same thing I said before, which is that they're going to do the linkage.
In the post-mortem.
And they're going to link it to Trump, they're going to link it to global warming, they're going to link it to all kinds of things.
But the real problem is that California is such a Democrat-run state that has been kind of kicked to the curb by Washington and Trump.
Right, they don't care much.
It's going to be hard to blame Trump for anything in California, ever.
What do you think is, you said it was incompetence was your feeling.
Last time we discussed it.
Yes, I said I didn't like the way this was being handled because it got out of control so quickly.
Yeah.
They didn't call in the Calvary right away when it first broke out.
I think it was on Wednesday, maybe.
And then they played.
It was all a defensive game after that, you know, telling people to get the hell out.
And I'm just bothered by a suburb, a development, a housing development on flat land.
Yeah, you've gone through this.
And I know, it's a continuous complaint of mine.
The whole thing going up in flames.
I don't care, 50 mile an hour winds or not.
It just doesn't... Yeah.
Doesn't add up.
It just says to me that everything is under... is nothing safe.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
Get used to it, slave.
You're not safe.
Please.
But you said cavalry and that brought up a different topic, different clip, but I'm aghast.
Segway.
Yes.
I'm aghast.
You don't have to point it out.
Canada is now leading the social justice warrior movement.
I mean, this is supposed to be our gig, alright?
But no, they have to go and take it one step further.
I know we've talked about it, but it actually is now coming to fruition with certain names and things that we just cannot use anymore because they are cultural appropriation or culturally inappropriate.
Mr. Bird, what's wrong with the word chief?
I think the administration here at the TDSB made the proactive decision to change the Toronto School Board TDSB, just given the fact that it has been used as a negative word, a slur, a pejorative to people in the Aboriginal community over the years.
So they made the proactive decision to eliminate it from the about roughly 20 or so people who had that in their title here at the TDSB.
And that's out of the obviously close to 40,000 staff we have here.
Well, give us some examples of the titles that have been changed.
So, for example, we had 12 chiefs within our professional support services department.
So, for example, the chief of social work.
We had a number of those.
Those are now managers of social work.
So that's one of the decisions.
Are you kidding me?
No, I'm not.
The whole C-suite has to go.
And I think it's going to happen here.
I think it's going to happen.
Chief Executive Officer.
That is appropriation of American Indians.
I'm all on board with this.
Where do we have it in American Indian history that they call themselves chief using the word chief?
Do you remember Aaron Bursell?
No.
He was the big, at the pod show, big guy, probably 280, 290, big guy.
Dark skin.
And he was PR or something like that.
You don't remember him?
I remember one time... The PR guys were in and out of their like... Yeah, yeah.
I remember one time saying, Oh, yo, chief, what's up?
But I didn't know he was American Indian, and he said, you know, I'm really offended by that.
I'm like, sorry, okay, I'll never do it again.
I had the same experience once at a dinner party where I said, well, that's a gyp.
Gypsy, yes.
One of the guys was a Romani or whatever.
And he was offended?
Yeah.
Oh, God.
He says, you can't use that word.
I said, what?
He says, it's derogatory toward gypsies.
Yeah.
And I said... The correct answer would have been, okay, I'm sorry, fag.
That's what you should have said.
Yeah, that's what I should have said, sure.
Hmm.
Well, I have a feeling this could get legs.
The Commander-in-Chief.
I mean, it's a great way to bring Trump into it.
It's the Commander-in-Chief culturally appropriating American Indians.
Well, where's Commander-in-Chief?
I get it.
I hope not.
Chief Executive.
Chief of Staff.
Chief Marketing Officer.
That's right.
Chief Executive Officer.
That's right.
The C-suite.
Chief COO.
Chief Operating Officer.
Let us help everyone now by coming up with an appropriate alternative.
What can we use with a C?
Besides John C. DeVore.
We would come up with something that's not lewd.
Yeah, right.
It doesn't have to be a C, although it would help business cards.
Chief Petty Officer.
It was a C because... Yeah, usually we're not... Chief Petty Officer.
Yeah, gotta go.
Yeah.
Uh, Chief... How about Chief?
How about just Head?
How about just Cheap?
How about Head?
Head?
Yeah, Head Marketing Officer.
Head Executive Officer.
Oh, no.
That was the same thing.
So you said Chief to this guy just casually as kind of a... That's it, hey Chief.
Yeah, hey Chief, how you doing?
Yeah, I'm offended by that.
Did you know he was an American Indian?
No, I know I didn't.
I do now.
Well, if you'd know that he was an American Indian, it wouldn't even be more appropriate.
You're complimenting him.
Well, he was offended.
He's easily offended.
And he's a PR guy?
Yeah, he's on Facebook.
Holy mackerel, this guy.
Wow.
Okay.
Well, let's see.
Head.
You don't like head.
I don't like head.
Well, let's go to the synonyms and see what we got.
Because we have no other choice.
But I think chief...
That is bad.
Yeah.
Champion?
I don't think it'll happen here.
I'm betting money it won't happen, but... Well... I think it's one step too many.
Czar?
We already did.
No, Czar's no good.
Yeah.
That's appropriating from the Russians.
How about just Chef?
Chef?
Chef Executive Officer.
Chef would be appropriate.
We don't have to change too much.
Yeah, especially if you're black.
Commander and chef.
I don't know.
Well, maybe you have to work on it.
I got the synonyms here.
Hold on a second.
Oh, okay.
Okay, we got lean, we got champion.
How about champion?
That starts with a C. Champ.
Champ.
Executive officer.
Okay.
Yeah.
Champ.
Yeah.
Champ.
Champion.
First grand.
Grand.
Yeah.
Main prime prime principal prime prime prime executive prime is good prime executive officer.
Yeah.
Prime executive officer.
I think prime could work.
Prime is good.
Prime prime is nice.
You can use that in French premier.
You can use it in.
I think that probably.
It would work everywhere.
Cardinal, Primary, Central, Ruling, Star, Superior, Telling, Consequential, Controlling.
Superior Executive Officer has a nice ring to it.
But I think Prime, I think you've nailed it.
I think you've nailed it with Prime.
Prime is it?
Prime is it?
Yeah, Prime.
Prime.
Okay, we're done.
Alright.
And Amazon Prime has to then rebrand.
I don't think they do.
No.
But it makes it even better.
All right.
Well, I'm glad you brought that into the conversation.
I have a little side note since it came up in the conversation, I think a couple of times.
And I know Horowitz talks about this.
You know, there's a big grocery store chain in Europe and in Germany called Aldi.
Yeah, A-L-D-I.
Aldi.
Sure I do.
That was A-L-D-E.
No, it's A-L-D-I.
And their whole game is they have the stuff out in boxes.
They don't actually put it on the shelves.
I, uh, yes, right.
It's a kind of like cheap way.
In fact, you have to give them that stuff in a certain kind of box so it fits into their system.
Yeah.
Okay.
So they basically take pallets of all the boxes, put them in areas in a big warehouse and they call it a supermarket.
Yes.
And they do quite well for themselves.
Um, Actually, according to the Wiki, it's A-L-D-S-A-L-D-I.
Okay.
Geez, you can take it from me, broseph.
I grew up there.
Yeah, I know, but we all make mistakes.
And I made a mistake on the clip.
You fact-checked it.
The title?
Did you spell it?
Yeah, you spelled it wrong, but I wouldn't have said it.
I gotcha.
That's not the worst offense in your clip.
Anyway, that's it.
It's got nothing to do with anything.
Here's what it's got to do with the punchline to this story.
Today's story?
There are actually two different Aldis.
Aldi Nord and Aldi Sud, or North and South.
In the 1960s, Theo and Karl Albrecht couldn't agree on whether or not they were going to allow their stores to sell cigarettes.
So instead of compromising, they divided the company in half.
Theo took the North, while Karl took the South.
You can tell the difference by looking at the logo.
North's logo is a basic blue and white.
South's logo is orange and blue.
It's the Southern Aldi that's a bit fancier.
And when it came time to expand to the rest of the world, those countries were divided up too.
Stores in areas like the UK, Ireland, and Australia are all Aldi Sud.
While you're shopping at Aldi Nord, if you go into France or Poland, there's only one country where Aldi Nord and Aldi Sud share pieces of the grocery store pie.
And that's in the U.S.
You wouldn't know it, though.
And that's because Aldi Sud does business as Aldi.
Aldi Nord goes by a different name, Trader Joe's.
Oh, yeah, I did know that.
Yes.
You did?
Yeah, I knew that.
I didn't know there was two, but I knew that they owned Trader Joe's.
Interesting.
Yeah, well Trader Joe's is a nicer version, I think, of Aldi.
But yeah, it makes total sense.
It is very much their format.
There was an original Trader Joe's.
They didn't start Trader Joe's.
Trader Joe's was started in the 50s by this guy Joe.
Really?
You don't say.
Yeah, his name was Joe.
I think he sold to the Aldi Group, which was a holding company, about 1979.
So they've owned them for a long time.
But I was never under the impression that this was a German company.
Yes, I knew that for sure.
Yeah.
And I knew somewhere about Trader Joe's, but I did not realize it was two different companies.
And so apparently the North owns Trader Joe's, the Aldi North, if I remember correctly from the clip.
Well, one of the two.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't like it there.
They're what, Trader Joe's?
Nah, I don't like it.
I hate it.
There's one within walking distance, and I'd rather get in my car.
I won't go there.
Trader Joe's, most of this stuff is prepackaged, which apparently Aldi specializes in, too, which is a lot of branded, Aldi branded.
Yeah.
I've never been to an Aldi store, so I don't know, but they talked about it.
And Trader Joe's got a lot of branded food.
It's Trader Joe's, this Trader Joe's, that.
They have a spiel.
Great millennials love it because they've got a story behind every product.
Yeah, every product.
Yeah, this was grandmother's secret recipe.
Yeah, it's always a story, and stories sell to millennials.
If you don't have a story, you can't sell to millennials.
And all the wine has pretty labels.
Well, the wine, they do actually, they bring in wine from all over the place.
Generally speaking, you don't get any good wine there except Stuff you can get anywhere.
But the fruits and vegetables are what bother me because they have this like kind of crunchy style of, you know, everybody who goes there, they're all, ooh, Trader Joe's, you go to Trader Joe's.
The fruits and vegetables are terrible.
They haven't got anything good.
It's not fresh.
No, no, they don't.
It's all pre-packaged.
It's not good.
It's just a bunch of apples are sold by the apple.
It's just very disappointing.
They have good cheese.
And which now makes more sense that it's German owned.
So the cheese selection is very good.
Yes.
Anyway, I thought people didn't know that.
Yeah, well, Trader Joe, yes.
But, you know, it would be that kind of stuff I'd catch because I still read the European news.
Before we... I was stunned by this.
I can tell.
I did an old piece.
I have a tech request for a dude's name, Ben.
Just because I wrote it down.
Okay.
I need an image conversion script or something.
Yes.
I'm trying to, I keep trying to whittle down the automation of the process here.
And the one of the final things I need, I got a lot of things really slick.
I need to be able to take an image from the art generator.
And what is the format that it comes out in?
It's standard format.
It's 540 by 540.
I think something like that.
No, it's 520, 520.
No, it's either J-Pick or P.
No, it's 520, 520.
Oh, okay.
No, no, no.
Because I chop it down to 256.
Shoot, I don't remember what it is.
Anyway, you can download one and figure it out.
And so I need three versions.
And I need them renamed.
And I just want to be able to... Maybe someone can bake it into the... All I want is just to be able to... Here's the image.
I want to drop this image somewhere.
It has to come back in a 256x256 and a 3000x3000.
And it has to be renamed.
And they have to be JPEGs.
And if you want to help, send me an email.
I'd really appreciate it.
It would be cool if it was actually built into the art generator.
But Bunk'd does not have time for it.
Nah, it's okay.
I'm going to show myself a lot by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning.
All right, we have a few people to thank, and we'll thank them.
Starting with Ronald Williams, 143.
He says, 101 plus 42, you're invaluable.
Karma, please call out my boss, Bill, as a douchebag.
He says he needs to be reminded to donate because he quotes your show at work all the time.
And what does he say?
I don't know.
He's probably, well, you know, he probably just takes some of our conclusions and uses them in conversations.
You said, yeah, no.
I did.
No, no, no.
He, that's what he's probably saying to his employees.
You said, yeah, no.
We should do that.
Yeah.
Or, or what's the other one?
Uh, it's the fact of the matter.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's when, when you're watching TV with people and the fact of the matter comes out and people look at you, you know, you know, you're part of the group.
Yes.
Let's see.
We have a number of them that we use.
They're triggers.
They're big triggers at this point.
They also remind you about the show, which is really good, right?
Which is the idea, but it triggers me.
I get triggered, right?
Right?
Right?
Okay.
Right?
Okay.
You know, right?
I want you to play... At the end of the day, right?
At the end of the day, the fact of the matter is... Yeah.
What do you want me to play?
I would like you to play, not this second, but before the show's over, that guy again.
The right guy?
The right guy.
Oh, the tech millennial.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
Okay.
Let's go on thanking people.
Sir Christoph the Cantankerous, 1-2-3-4-5.
Greg Dial, 99.99.
Ned Jeffery, 8008.
Boob!
He's got a birthday call out for someone.
Colin Hanowell in Vashon, Washington.
Thanks for making other podcasts seem like canned corned beef hash.
Hold on.
Let me just read what Ned said here.
He said, thank you for the birthday shout out for my new human resource exactly one month ago.
She had no name at the time, but she does now.
Alira Aisling Jade Jeffrey.
Nice.
Okay.
I'm not sure what the connection to the show is, but... No, but it doesn't matter.
It's nice when you have a kid.
We said congratulations on the show back then.
Oh.
Okay, well... She didn't have a name.
And now she has a name.
She had no name at the time, but she does now.
Yeah.
Well, he mentioned it in the note.
I guess he wanted us to say it.
Okay, well, you did.
I'm not complaining, I'm just wondering... You're pausing!
Move forward!
Yeah, because I'm looking at the structure of the sentences.
Colin Hannawell in Vashon, Washington.
We got him, but he's boob.
Raymond McGowan, 8008 in Morgan Hill, California.
That's just down the street from us.
Thanks for the sanity.
He wants a de-douching, which we have enough time to do.
You've been de-douched.
Another birthday from Laura Wilson in Sammamish, Washington.
$75.
A little ritzy community there.
From a bro-in-law, Tim White from Lee's Summit, Missouri.
We got him on the list.
Christopher Dector 5678.
Stephen Wolf in Kirkland, Washington, which is not the home of Costco, but they use that brand, they use the town's name for their brands.
Joshua Brickner, 5510.
James Buell in Spring Hill, Tennessee, 5341.
Sir Chuck Walters, 5001.
Happy birthday call out.
He's got that on the list for his mom.
And now we go to the $50 donations.
Name and location, all 50s.
Robert Newby in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, does have a douchebag call out.
Calling out anyone in Murfreesboro that hasn't donated in the last three months as a douchebag.
Our core of support for the show is getting soft.
So pony up at least $50 for the value for value and get out and get our town ringing through the donation segments again.
Yes, we haven't heard from Murfreesboro for a while and that would mean, I suspect, They should have a meetup down there.
We should go to it, the two of us.
Okay.
Jay Stallings, Parts Unknown, $50.
Very long note for some reason, not sure what he's got in here.
You can take a look at it and tell me if you should go back to it.
Kathleen Leander, $50.
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Titus Chow in Houston, Texas.
John Haller in Missoula, Montana.
Trevor Hoagland in Portland, Oregon.
Brandy with an I, Kovash, $50.
And she says, I've got a note that's kind of interesting.
I have to expand it, sorry.
Well, while you do that, I'll go back for a second to Titus Chow.
He says, my sister-in-law is on her deathbed because of cancer.
She has only a few days remaining, so we'll do an F-cancer at the end of the segment.
Yes, please.
Brandy says, my brother turned me on to your show when I was suffering from an election stress disorder.
I like that.
Wow.
It has saved me from the depths of fake news media.
I now feel fully informed and smarter than most of my other 40-something mom friends when it comes to current events.
Yeah, next time you look, it'll be 20-something mom friends, and then it'll be 10-something mom friends.
Go easy.
I look forward to the Thursdays and Sundays.
Thank you both.
Go easy.
Sheila Demodaran.
Demodaran.
Demodaran.
Sir Chris Lewinsky.
I think she's a dame.
Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta.
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Short list.
Very short list of donors, well-wishers, and producers for show.
973.
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He celebrates on the 16th.
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Ned Jeffrey.
We talked about him.
It is his birthday today.
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I went through the last update from Sheriff Lombardo of Clark County and pulled a number of clips.
Okay, I only have two clips for this whole thing.
Yeah, why don't you do your stuff?
I mean, I like analyzing what he's doing because the words he's using are extremely interesting from a no-agenda perspective.
Good.
Well, let's play the rundown I have on CBS's, the LV shootings.
It's not all of the whole rundown, but it's the part of it I thought was important.
Lombardo also offered new insight into the changing timeline.
I still stand by the time of 2159, Mr. Campos received his wounds in close proximity to 2205.
At 9.59 p.m., hotel security guard Jesus Campos went to investigate an alarm on the 32nd floor, but was likely not shot until closer to 10.05 p.m.
That's when he used his radio and his cell phone to report that he'd been shot.
Within seconds, Steven Paddock then turned his gunfire to concertgoers below his windows, and the aviation fuel tanks about a hundred yards past the concert crowd.
At 10.17 p.m., police arrived outside his room, 12 minutes after the shooting began.
Campos has not shared his story with the media, but his union released these pictures of him, getting an award for his bravery in the massacre.
Did they steal the concert tickets?
What is that about?
I don't know.
There are stories being built around this very carefully.
explosives, guns, and concert tickets when they went to Paddock's Mesquite home.
Did they find any of that?
Did they steal the concert tickets?
What is that about?
I don't know.
There are stories being built around this very carefully.
And I think we can kind of hear that verbatim in the Lombardo stuff that I've got.
But man, it's...
Well, can I read from Greg W., who doesn't want some of the stuff read, but I can read it.
Yes.
He's a producer, you mean?
Yeah, he's one of our producers.
I've been a listener for a while.
He says, first of all, the screw-up in the timeline, and specifically the security guard story, boils down to a simple mistake by one of the officers interviewing the security guard on the scene who wrote down the wrong time of the incident in his report.
Now, hold on.
We should say that our producer gets this from his buddy who's in Metro.
He's in the police department.
Yes, exactly.
It was not reported anywhere, as far as I know, is that the security guard apparently was checking up on loud hammering noises.
Right here is where we need the Lawrence O'Donnell clip.
Stop the hammering!
Stop the hammering!
Oh man, oh wow, damn.
I only have this version.
Why don't I have a sound?
Alright, it's back.
What's going on?
Why am I losing this?
There's insanity in control.
I need the ISO, though.
There's an insanity.
Someone's pressing a button.
We gotta put some ISOs up for it, because the result of the hammering is just too precious to believe.
Anyway, loud hammering noises, not gunshots, coming from the suite Paddock was staying in.
According to my source, Paddock was trying to reinforce an entrance door.
To the suite and one of the bedrooms inside the suite in order to barricade himself inside and the security guard interrupted him at which point he shot him and started executing the plan early before he could finish the main entrance door and he knew there would be more security cops coming because he knew there were going to be more.
There's still a lot of details missing and there's still a lot of evidence being examined like you mentioned several times already.
This is, you know, forensic science is not like you see on television.
But what is known already is that the shooter was planning to cause a lot more damage and the only reason he didn't was mainly just luck and the fact that he was probably just a rookie when it comes to guns and explosives, something his brother keeps claiming.
Patek made a small cutout in one of the windows and had the gun set up and aimed at the Fuel or gas tanks that were right next to the concert and his first shots right after the security guy interrupted him were at the tank with the goal of blowing it up and causing instant panic and then shooting at people in the street closer to the hotel as they could be running away from the explosion but the tanks never exploded So he had to improvise, and this is from the police, by the way, as you mentioned.
Yeah.
He had to improvise and started shooting at an area in the concert, but the process broke.
The window, apparently it was just a hole in the window, and that was it.
He fucked it up.
And he also moved it to the other window suite where he had a little better view of the crowd and started shooting.
From the window, but as he did, the gust of wind between the two bedrooms from blowing up the second window caused the reinforced door he created, locking him in the room.
Closed the door on him with the wind.
Which is a couple of guns.
This is the way they analyzed it.
With just a couple of guns and only a small portion of the ammo he had because he got locked out away from a bunch of the guns.
Okay, so this is why he didn't use all the ammo and guns he had seen.
It makes some sense.
Anyway, he goes on.
He says, the reason for the delay in the police took so long to get him is he had to remember that at the time nobody knew how many active shooters there were because it's a typical tactic for police is to clear each floor of the hotel one by one until they get to the top instead of rushing straight to the 32nd floor.
That would take some time.
I'd like to add a comment about security footage from the hotel, which apparently a lot of which is missing.
Well, it is true there's tons of security cameras in those hotels.
The primary focus is only on the casino itself, trying to catch cheaters.
And the main entrances, upper floors, are secondary systems and the hotels are not paying nowhere near as much attention.
I would believe that.
I would believe that.
I believe it too.
I can tell from visiting these casinos, they're starting to degrade more and more.
I mean, for that kind of coverage, you want to go to Airbnb.
I mean, you just want to stay at a hotel.
I got it.
Well, this doesn't really debunk... There was a story about Airbnb guy putting cameras... John, the day that we start explaining each other's jokes, we really need to just stop the show.
It's like references that are ridiculous.
Come on, everybody knows.
You're very obscure.
Everybody knows that story.
Sorry for the long note, he says, he finishes up, he says this information is valuable.
Also, on the last note, I personally know one of the ER doctors at one of the hospitals close to the Strip working during the shooting, and he told me that at least 80 to 90 percent of the wounded people from that concert that he has seen were in fact gunshot wounds in case anyone out there believes that the info wars was saying and there's no evidence of any victims of gunshots.
Thank you for the great service you provide.
Right.
Okay.
So that's good that you read that.
I, of course, read that.
I was like, wow, that's so long.
I shouldn't read that.
But it's actually good in context.
And I think the next time he talks to his neighbor or buddy or whatever it is, he'll probably have some updates to the story.
And this requires a little bit of context, the way Sheriff Lombardo does these updates to the press.
Right to the side of him, and he's always on camera, although I don't think he realizes it, is a special agent in charge now.
He's special agent in charge, SAIC, Aaron Roos, from the FBI.
And he also has a little statement, but it's kind of unimportant.
But while the chief is reading what he calls the narrative, which is really what caught my ear, and I really started listening to what he's saying, he says, I need to read this narrative to you.
Now, typically, in today's usage of the word, it has more of a negative connotation.
Narrative is something that is a general conglomeration of talking points to explain something.
But typically, you say, I have some facts for you.
This is what I expect from law enforcement.
I don't expect them to talk about I have a narrative for you.
I agree.
I do not expect law enforcement to be using the word narrative.
It's odd.
If there was some sort of police talk and we know what it sounds like, that makes more sense.
I've not heard it.
Um, so, and then while he, each time he really reads a, what he calls a narrative, and I think it's two or three times in these clips I have, then you see the special agent in charge bobbing his head.
His body language is all about, mm-hmm, that's exactly right, yeah, that he's always confirming, he's almost patronly.
And that is because from what everything I've heard, and it's kind of confirmed these clips, the investigation is now under supervisory.
It's an FBI investigation now.
It's federal.
But they're letting this guy give them and I think he's telegraphing and doesn't even know it.
The poor sheriff.
He's just a dude.
So let's start with his narrative about the death toll.
In a couple of these items, I will read from the narrative.
From the narrative.
It's even better than I thought.
I will read this from the narrative.
I guess that's the playbook, or... I mean, I hate to sound conspiratorial, but it's odd.
Because I don't want my comments to be construed or changed.
That would be misconstrued.
Wouldn't it?
Yes.
I don't want my comments construed.
I like it if there's comments to be construed.
Please!
If there's actually a definition for that, go on.
Construed or changed?
So I wanted to ensure the accuracy of that but most of this conference will be done strictly through my narrative provided to you.
Okay first and foremost I want to give you an update on the injuries.
This has been a big deal on my mind as it has been the public and I think it's important for you to Now this is another part of the problem I have.
of what is occurring associated with the injuries of the one October event.
There was no integrity question associated with that, as I've experienced through the cyberspace.
Now, this is another part of the problem I have.
Again, and you'll hear it throughout these clips, defending himself and the relationship with the FBI and that we're not covering up for each other.
For them continuously to do this is also not standard.
Questioning my integrity.
58 is still the number of individuals that have died.
Now, this is an important piece.
Important.
45 individuals are still hospitalized.
Some of those are in critical condition.
So 58 may raise.
By the grace of God it doesn't.
And we shall continue to move forward.
The medical profession will provide all the medical care necessary, but sometimes it's people meet their demise outside of our control.
Another very weird statement.
The medical profession will take care of everything, but sometimes people meet their demise outside of our control.
I know I'm really drilling down into it, but this guy is almost an open book for a linguist.
Okay, let me throw a little thing in here.
I'm not sure what I'm going to say is accurate, but it's an interpretation possibility.
Because a lot of, and here's what I'm going to say, a lot of sheriffs are elected.
They're not from law enforcement.
They're elected officials.
Yes, correct.
They get voted on, and some of them are just boneheads.
They get voted in because everybody likes them.
So the guy could be just an idiot.
Could be.
Who's being controlled.
That's what it sounds like to me.
Well, he's being told what to do at this point because he doesn't know what to do.
He's a guy that got voted to be sheriff.
Got it.
Okay, that's a good point and good context.
Provide all the medical care necessary, but sometimes it's people meet their demise outside of our control.
So, I'm hoping that number does not raise, but today's number is 58.
He certainly has a high school education.
No, I hope that number doesn't raise.
It'll raise, but it'll go up.
We're gonna raise the roof, y'all.
Okay.
Now the fuel tanks.
Another narrative.
The fuel tanks.
I'm gonna read this narrative so my words do not get changed.
I mean, come on.
But I want to provide you some information in reference to the fuel tanks.
It is believed the fuel tanks were fired upon with intent.
McCarran's leaders have safety protocols in place which they re-examine following any safety-related incident.
The leaders have already contacted experts and fuel storage out of the abundance of caution.
I am more than confident that they will immediately implement any changes or security augmentations If they are so advised.
I have been advised there is a very low probability that aviation fuel could be ignited by gunfire and the tanks are outfitted for continual release of vapors.
So that is the situation of the fuel tanks.
Any future information that needs to be provided, reference that will be provided by the public information office out of McCarran Airport.
So, that's the narrative.
He's shot at the fuel tanks, which is an interesting twist.
You know, if you want to create a narrative, or if you want to give a guy some pieces of the narrative to read, And this is kind of a toss away, but I threw it in anyway.
The dates of the 25th versus the 28th.
This was not breaking news, no matter who believed it to be so in this forum.
We were aware of the discrepancy of the 28th versus the 25th.
In the early parts of this investigation, what we weren't aware of is why the date of the 28th was utilized in the early portion of this as I was provided this information as part of the person registered in the suspect's room.
We have come to learn the suspect did occupy the room.
On the 25th and the situation on how the room was compensated or pay for had changed and the name as part of the registration had changed on the 28th to include Mary Lou Danley.
So that was the confusion associated with that.
No matter what the perception is, whether we were being non-transparent or we were attempting to be subversive is false.
I was acting on the information at the time I was provided it.
He's very defensive about all this stuff.
He's been blasted in the local media.
Yes, I understand.
I'm not sure if the timeline fits.
When did she go to Thailand?
I thought, in my mind, this had happened a week before, maybe even longer.
So this means she left the day before?
Or two days before?
Not the timeline we got originally.
No, no.
Now this is a great piece.
Again, something you never hear about when the shooter suicides himself.
I've just never heard this before and I thought it was fascinating and I'm also curious about about these people's eyes the autopsy um yes there has been an autopsy performed on mr paddock or the suspect or the suspect whoever i don't know in the early evaluation there was no ad normalities observed visually um as a
As a matter of practice in the forensic science, his brain has been shipped to an appropriate evaluation facility in order to take a microscopic evaluation of the brain.
So the initial report that there was no abnormalities was a visual inspection of his brain.
So it's yet to be known whether there is any abnormalities Besides that he blew his brains out of his skull as part of the narrative, what are they looking for, John?
Abnormalities in the brain.
Oh, I can tell you.
Please, enlighten me.
They were looking for signs of football player's disease, PT, whatever the hell it is.
PTSD?
No, you mean... No, it's not PTSD.
No, it's skull trauma.
Yeah, you get a brain trauma from playing football and there's a certain disease that I don't have.
The chat room should come up with it immediately.
Traumatic brain injury.
Yeah, but it's got another more technical name.
CTE.
That's it.
CTE.
Boom!
Whatever it is.
Two on the boom.
Anyway, they were looking for CTE so they could, because they don't have a motive for this guy.
And they said, well, God, maybe he was a football player and he's got CTE and that's why he did it.
Could they be looking for anything else?
Enlarged amygdala?
They were looking for CTE.
They were very specific about it.
Wow, that's interesting.
But I think that he did have traumatic brain injury or CTE.
Because his brains were on the carpet.
Yeah, that's very traumatic.
It's a very traumatic thing to experience.
Yeah, which is the baffling part, because why would you, uh... Hey, hey, John, Dr. John!
I don't know if you can find CTE if your brains have been blown out.
Hey, Dr. Dvorak, I'm looking at this here brain.
What do you think?
Looks like he's got CTE.
Looks like I'm missing a piece of it.
That's odd.
Where could the rest of the brain be?
Wow.
Again, the conspiracy issue.
Very, very troubling to our sheriff.
2217.
12 minutes.
That is when our officers first arrived on the 32nd floor.
12 minutes.
You're very well aware the suspect fired at approximately 10 minutes.
Upon our arrival on the 32nd floor, the firing had ceased.
We did not believe we had continually had an active shooter.
At that point, we conducted evacuations of the rooms adjacent to the suspect's room and You know the rest.
So, there is no conspiracy between the FBI, between LVMPD and the MGM.
Nobody is attempting to hide anything, reference this investigation.
The dynamics and the size of this investigation requires us to go through Oh, okay.
Got it.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, did you hear that?
draw an accurate picture.
My attempt, like I stated earlier, is to give you information as I know it, unverified, to calm the public, not to establish a legal case.
Everybody understand that?
No questions.
Did you hear that?
Everyone understand that?
The public, not to establish a legal case.
Everybody understand that?
No questions, sir.
No questions.
No questions.
All right, we're almost done.
Okay, but before you go on, I will mention that he is elected.
He's kind of a cop.
I guess he got elected to be sheriff.
They don't really have any background on the wiki page.
He just got elected as sheriff during an election.
And just to make it even more funny, if you want to call this funny, he's a Republican.
Oh, yes.
So he's like a dumb Republican.
Groovy.
Well, no wonder they put him front and center.
That's great.
And he just reads the narrative.
That's very good.
Let's do one more narrative.
This is new, and I'm surprised we didn't hear it from our producer's neighbor.
So before we close out today, I want to provide you another written narrative I want to read verbatim.
Yeah, please do, so your words don't get misconstrued or construed.
In other words, bring a better light to what's occurred.
Ah, in other words, listen up!
Okay.
and the carnage that's associated with our community.
There's some bright spots, and I don't want anybody to take offense.
When I've completed my comments today, there's a thousand heroes out there.
But I'm going to bring it home to my department, and I think it's important for you to hear it.
So, the first narrative: In the immediate aftermath of the shooting, Sergeant Garrett Everett arrived at Reno in Haven and saw the need for medical triage area.
For hours, Sergeant Everett and other LVMP officers, along with the off-duty nurses, paramedics, and firefighters, triaged at least 50 gunshot victims.
They ran out of tourniquets and began using anything they could find to stop the bleeding, to include their own hobble devices they use during normal course of their duties.
These officers calmly took care of the wounded and the dying as they waited for medical transport, at times placing the critical victims on the backs of trucks so they could get to the hospital quickly.
Not all the victims made it out as the night wore on.
Those same officers were assigned to guard the deceased victims, not allowing any of them to be left alone.
He started shooting at them?
Thank you.
I don't know if this guy can hit anything from that distance from the sounds of it.
Do you know, it's, it's, so... Well, here it is.
This is, this is the one that I, the, the... I mean, if you're using that, that, that little device, that shoulder thing that makes the thing, it's just gonna scatter shots.
It's like... You know what I also found out about semi-automatic as well as, but certainly if you use a bump stock or if you use a full automatic like an M16, there's something called cooking off.
Have you ever heard of this?
And this may have happened to the shooter, the suspect, the guy whose brain was on the carpet.
If you shoot 20, 30 rounds, the way these things function is that unless the magazine's empty, a new round comes into the chamber.
And it's so hot, That if you just put it on the ground and, you know, fill up, you know, put a new mag in, it can start shooting by itself.
It'll shoot and then it might, it could shoot up to two, three rounds just by itself without pulling the trigger because it's just so hot the shell goes off.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
You see, we saw the videos of these guys using this bump stock and the thing to rifle.
It looks like it's on fire.
They usually shoot out the whole magazine.
I'm just saying.
I have a video in the show notes.
It's kind of fun to look at.
Um, now, now this is what I like the best, is the last clip, where he's telling the press now what they need to write about.
Joey, not only is he giving them the narrative, the written narrative, he's telling them what to write about.
Chief Beck Goldrepublican.
Key individuals I want you to write about.
And one of them is Brady Cook.
Brady sustained four separate gunshot wounds.
And when I say separate, that's entries and exits.
It's not actually four separate bullets.
And this important piece on Brady is, the suspect was fired upon the crowd.
As our officer started to ride via vehicles, which Brady was occupying one, it is readily apparent to me that he adjusted his fire and directed it toward the police vehicles.
So the response to those is... And he says by, he does say properly, it is readily apparent to me, but he's presenting this as something you need to write about.
Brady is.
The suspect was fired upon the crowd.
As our officer started to ride via vehicles, which Brady was occupying one, it is readily apparent to me that he adjusted his fire and directed it toward the police vehicles.
So the response of those individuals, I believe, saved lives.
No matter what his personal vendetta is against the police or not, maybe he was preventing the wolf from getting to his door sooner than later, but he chose to fire upon the police vehicles.
Brady sustained a substantial wound to his shoulder, through his bicep, into his chest, and out his back.
Well, we should certainly have some body-worn camera images of the cops being shot at.
And that's pushing something new in.
He hated cops.
Yeah.
There's no reason to be... I mean, there's... Why?
Well, they've got to build something, and I think I have a much better idea.
You know, we've kind of discussed it.
And it would really only take one company to... It would get rid of a problem for them anyway.
Pfizer could just say, you know what, we'll take it under consideration.
If you just say the guy was taking Shantix to quit smoking, we would be done with the whole thing.
Ah, well, of course.
The press could do story after story of people who've gone nuts.
That's never going to happen.
And let's go back to the Shantix thing.
The guy looked to me like a smoker.
And I'm not going to say you can just look at somebody and say they look like a smoker, but you see pictures of this guy?
Yeah, he looks like a smoker.
He looks like a smoker.
Looks like a smoker.
Mr. Smoker.
Which means it's possible that he took Shantix and this is the thing they're repressing.
They want to... All of this to save Pfizer?
It's possible.
Think about it.
It's possible.
But yeah, the shantyx, I mean, people have, they, they wake up in different cities.
They've, you know, one guy didn't go kill his neighbor, shot him through the door.
Interesting.
There's, there's a story for you.
Mainstream media and 5m.
Yeah.
There's tons of great stories.
Yeah.
There are tons of great stories about the crazy results of using shantyx.
I mean, we spent a whole life.
I don't know, a couple of shows on the topic about three or four years ago.
Yeah.
And we still bring it up on the when you have a mass shooting or anything like that, you want to look into the pharmaceuticals a guy's been taking, including, you know, wherever the event took place.
Well, here's WAPO.
Except in this case, they got the Valium.
Well, here's WAPO, WAPO, WAPO, WAPO, WAPO.
August 9th last year, the smoking cessation drug Shantix has now played a crucial role in a second violent crime.
On Monday, a Maryland man was found not criminally responsible for shooting his wife in the neck in their home in 2014 because he was found to be suffering from involuntary intoxication due to Shantix.
Yeah.
Involuntary intoxication.
It could explain everything and it'd be done.
The cover-up would be done.
Yes.
Whatever they're covering up or not.
Maybe they're covering up Shantix.
I can't believe that.
I do.
I can believe it.
There's billions of dollars involved with these pharmaceutical companies.
And the liabilities?
Holy mackerel.
If that was the case, every one of those guys who's dead would have wrongful death suit.
Everybody who was injured would have a suit.
This would be a nightmare.
Let me take a look with the fourth quarter 2006.
Let me see what Chantix does in revenues.
This stuff is pretty easy to look up.
No, they don't have any numbers.
That's too bad.
Someone in the chat room maybe can find that.
But I'll bet you it's not that big.
I mean, it can't be the biggest one.
It's a...
I'm not going to argue that.
The point is that the company that produces it has deep pockets and can't afford to get sued out of existence.
Right.
Yes, I agree with that.
Uh, but still, it just seems like, you know, well maybe, I don't know, they're really doing this, it's hard for me to believe that they're gonna, doing this to cover up shantyx.
I mean, it's, it's... Well, I would like to ask his girlfriend if he's a smoker and if he's been trying to quit.
Yeah.
Nobody ever does any of this.
No.
Alright, I'll, I'll get on the plane to the Philippines.
No, she's still here.
No, she's in Vegas, yeah.
Probably.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Yeah, of course he's surrounded by FBI guys.
You're not gonna be able to go and ask or anything.
Right, and we still can't talk to the Campo guy.
He's being guarded.
You can't get to him.
You can't interview him.
He was supposed to show up for, you know, like five network interviews and cancel at the last minute on all of them.
Yeah.
Yeah, hmm.
Yeah, that's pretty fishy.
Yeah.
No, the fishy one for me, the fishiest thing this week is the Associated Press who come up with this and say, oh yeah, this is it.
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah, that makes me sick.
Claiming this is a recording of the sound that made our U.S.
diplomats ill in the Cuban embassy and living quarters, around their private living quarters.
What you just played?
Yeah.
You should play through the whole show.
Now, I want to tell you that I'm just looking at the chat room and people said it really, it really hurt them.
Wow.
I think they're just, I think they're just tripping out.
Let's try it again.
Donate to no agenda.
We'll see if it works.
I've got pretty good speakers.
I'm not getting anything that seems bad.
I'll see if that worked.
Huge donations next show.
or everyone's dead.
We need to have a rolling transcript of the chat room along with the show sometimes.
That's funny.
All right, you guys.
Sorry, I didn't mean to kill you.
All right.
They're all MKUltra triggered, apparently.
We're off the topic, I hope.
Yes, way off of it.
There's an ad for, it was an ESPN ad for football or something.
I just found the copy of, and I didn't have the whole thing.
This is the ad with the bad info.
The copy, whoever wrote this ad, and it was overproduced, so it had to have somebody that came along and said, hey, hey, hey, hey, what are you doing here?
This is not what this is.
Play this ad.
You feel that?
Feel the ground moving beneath your feet?
It's because the ground is moving beneath your feet.
You're in a real earthquake.
One that registers two miles away on the Richter scale.
The administration tried to stop it once.
They were worried it would break the stadium.
What about the Richter scale?
It's apparently a distance scale now.
200 miles beneath the Richter scale?
No, two miles away on the Richter scale.
Oh God.
And what was this for?
What product?
It was for a football game because in certain stadiums people jump up and down and it's like being in an earthquake.
Well, two miles away on the Richter scale is like... That's a head shaker.
How does that make any sense under any deconstruction?
I like it a lot.
That's great.
But guys, watch football.
Oh, yeah.
Two mile on the Richter scale, everybody.
Yeah, here's my algo story of the week.
You may have caught what happened.
I thought it was fun.
One of our producers did a lot of work to get this off of his DVR and it's a little overmodulated as a result, but I don't think it's his fault.
A discussion on CNBC about Dow Jones Newswire.
Who put out a fake news story, an actual fake news story that Google was buying Apple and they were, I think, getting nine Apple shares or, you know, for one Google share.
And it was, it was, and this is dude's name, Ben, you know, they put in test data.
There's only thing that's just some stock, which is like X, Y, X, Y, X, Y, Z. And it actually trades, but it's a test stock.
I was followed up with more wires that read, Google says yay!
It looks as if it's trading because the data is coming through.
And this created a little problem with the algos.
That was followed up with more wires that read, Google says yay.
Google gets nine Apple shares for each Google share.
You expected to close tomorrow.
Google will take over Apple's headquarters.
Dow Jones apologized, saying that the wires were sent out in a technical error.
That doesn't make sense, though, does it?
Unless somebody was practicing.
Somebody was practicing with something on the news feed, so they came up with the most ridiculous.
I mean, having worked at Dow Jones and seeing how the sausage gets made sometimes, when you're playing with some of these prototypes, you come up with ridiculous headlines thinking it will never happen.
We used to do things like this, like Microsoft takes over the world.
In the old days, we were trying to put web stuff together.
But I don't know how this is.
Same thing.
When we started WSJ.com, you're playing around with some of these things, assuming that no one will ever see them.
And occasionally, you get a little goofy where you should be.
I would believe if I saw Amazon takes over the world.
If Amazon takes over the world.
If that was the headline.
Would you know that that's not true?
If you're almost going to close tomorrow, then what?
I would still want to check to see whether it was true or not.
Google says yay.
That headline might give it away.
Google says yay.
You know there's AI that, now apparently I was talking about a trader, there's AI that listens to our show, they take it, and people try to trade off of it.
Alexa, stop doing that!
So, yeah.
That's scary.
Because Amazon takes over the world.
Makes me think they're going to close tomorrow.
The opposite of what we're recommending.
That's what I'm worried about.
Yeah.
That might be a good idea.
I like this story because it proves once again how AI and machine learning is such a big bag of crap.
Because here are a couple of people, and by the way, the algos did kick in.
And they traded Apple stock up $2 for about 10 minutes and $2 in the Apple stock, you know, that's like, whoa, hey, what's going on over there?
That was a big jump.
And it went back down once everyone figured out it was a fake story.
But, you know, these people are great algos by themselves.
They look at that headline, they see the nuance of, oh, you know, Google says, yay, well, that's got to be bull crap.
Yeah, your brain is so incredibly good.
It's got all this knowledge, all these things stored away and then somehow arrogant Silicon Valley has made the sheeple believe that they can do all this groovy stuff with algorithms when you can't.
The algos are dumb.
They respond to math and just not everything is mathematical.
It's just stupid.
I'm glad you got that off your chest.
Yeah, but the algos are my thing.
Everyone's talking about the algos.
You should see the hype of AI companies.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah.
It's just dumb.
Make a list of them.
Okay.
And track them and then we'll take a look at the list and see which ones will be the perfect shorts.
Well, that's an easy list.
All of them.
They're all perfect shorts.
I don't even know which stocks you're talking about.
Oh, there's six.
I think there's six of them that are You know, and they get one little piece of news like, oh, well, we've, uh, we've completed almost like pharmaceutical, like biotech, you know?
Yeah, we've completed our trial with our augmented reality machine learning hoop-a-dee-poop Goldberg machine, and we're good.
Boom!
Stock rockets!
That's great.
Uh, yes.
Yeah, they're all doomed.
Yeah, totally.
It's just, it's not going to happen.
I'm very bearish on AI.
Yeah, I think we've got that impression.
Well, it's Tech News Sunday, you know.
So we do have the Boy Scouts story.
Might as well play that.
Yeah, I read that in the newsletter.
The Boy Scouts have announced they plan to accept girls into the program beginning next year.
This comes after the Boy Scouts first ended its ban on openly gay Boy Scouts and then transgender Scouts.
They're going to have... It's eventually going to be the boy and girl Scouts are going to merge at some point.
They have to.
Because we can't have these separate things anymore.
It's like the Boys and Girls Club.
For years, I was like, who the hell is the Boys and Girls Club?
I realized it's the Boys Club, which when I was a kid, it was called the Boys Club.
And it was, you know, after school activity things, a center for boys to burn off steam.
And then the girls bitched about it.
And next thing you know, it's the Boys and Girls Club.
Right.
And this was going to happen here.
But the more interesting thing was what happened in New York Times.
They ran a story about how beneficial it would be to boys to join the Girl Scouts.
I was just looking at that going, oh, there you go.
There's our demasculization of male species in the United States.
You know, the de-balling of the American man.
It's not just contained to the United States.
Did Tillerson quit the Boy Scouts?
Because I'm surprised Amy didn't mention that in her story.
You know, Trump being a moron and all.
Yeah, I'm surprised too.
Yeah, didn't he, uh... Did he quit?
I don't know.
I mean, he's not still a Boy Scout, if that's what you're wondering.
No, he was the president of the Boy Scouts of America.
I don't think he's... I thought he retired from that years ago.
Maybe he's an emeritus or something.
He's on the board.
I don't know.
We could look it up.
Nah, screw it.
We don't care.
I really don't.
Alright.
I think that's good.
I'm good.
I mean, I got other stuff, but... Nah, dude, do one more.
You gotta do one more fun thing just to get us out.
Well, the one fun thing is kind of, you know, there's earthquakes in Holland.
I'm going to skip that.
Let's listen to General Kelly.
He apparently went in front of the audience and said, look, I'm not quitting this bullcrap.
Yeah, he went in front of the White House press corps.
He did about 20 minutes.
He said he wasn't going to quit.
He was bullcrap.
And then he gave a long spiel about what he's supposed to do and not do.
And one of the things he says, Trump's tweets?
What am I supposed to do about it?
As far as the tweets go, I read in the paper, you all know, you write it, that I've been a failure at controlling the president, or a failure at controlling his tweeting and all that.
Again, I was not sent in, or I was not brought to this job to control anything but the flow of information to our president so that he can make the best decisions.
I have found that Mr. Trump, from the day I met him, is a decisive guy.
He's a very thoughtful man, I should say.
He takes information in from every avenue he can receive it.
I restrict no one, by the way, from going in to see him.
But when we go in to see him now, rather than onesies and twosies, we go in and help him collectively understand what he needs to understand to make these vital decisions.
So, again, I was not sent into or brought in to control him, and you should not measure my effectiveness as a chief of staff by what you think I should be doing, but simply the fact is I can guarantee to you that he is now presented with options, well-thought-out but simply the fact is I can guarantee to you that Those options are discussed in detail with his team, and then he comes up with the right decision.
I kind of get this visual of Kelly with a bowl of ice cream.
Come on, come on.
I want your attention.
Hold on a second.
Hold on.
Let's do this.
We know he's kinetic.
He's kinetic.
It's all the military intelligence who work in him to make sure he does the right thing so we can get this wars going.
Yeah, I don't think they care about the tweets either.
I mean, I don't.
I don't think it's important.
I don't either.
I mean, I actually, I follow him, but he tweets at some weird hour.
So I never see his tweets.
He's buried in the stream somewhere.
Yeah, but it's like people tweet about their food or whatever.
And he tweets about bull crap that he's interested in.
Which reminds me, this came up in the conversation.
Which is crazy, but I find it entertaining.
This came up in the conversation with the millennials and Mimi and everyone.
She says, and it was backed up by everyone, that people are so upset, these facebaggers, they're like so upset about the way the world's going because of Trump, that they stopped taking pictures of their food.
What?
Was this a protest?
And everyone agreed, oh yeah, there's a lot less pictures of food on Facebook than there used to be.
Did you know that Friday apparently was Women Don't Go On Twitter Day?
No, I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Was it some Harvey Weinstein initiative?
Let me see.
Don't go- I think it was Twitter, maybe it was all social networks.
Tina was reading it to me like, did you know?
No.
Very poorly done.
Uh, let me see.
This Friday- no, that's not it.
Hmm.
Uh.
No, I don't see anything now.
Hmm.
Uh, no, I thought it was a big deal.
Uh, hmm.
Does anyone know about this?
Apparently only you.
Hello, does anyone know about this?
Well, no.
No, okay.
Anyway, the solution, by the way, to the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts is just call it the Scouts and be done with it.
And then you can always have boys and girls internally if they want to mix and match or whatever, that's fine.
Well, there are two organizations and I don't know how they can get them to merge.
I mean, they're going to have to.
It's old-fashioned.
They can just get together.
It'll be fine.
As promised and as requested, last clip is of the tech millennial explaining fake news.
Right?
During breaking news, the likes of which we've been- Fast forward her- The fake post-Circuit Vegas shooting.
Misidentifying- Misidentification is how does that happen?
How do stories like that, how do they rise to the surface?
Oh, shut up.
And what are the fake news, as I said, about victims?
Shut up.
They were incorrect.
And there were two cases that I think are kind of worth highlighting in this context.
So in one case, we had Google, right?
People going to Google and searching for information about possible sort of, you know, identities of the shooter.
And there was one name that had sort of emerged early on that people had sort of believed might have been responsible.
And so they were going to Google.
They were searching for this name.
And instead of coming up with, you know, a link to CBC or CNN or NBC or some sort of reputable news site, they were being sent to a...
essentially a sort of dark forum of the internet, right, where hoaxes and misinformation is often spread.
A place called 4chan, where people were discussing the identity of one of the believed, sort of, you know, one of the names of someone who later proved to not be the shooter.
And that was one example there.
And then on Facebook, Facebook is a feature called Safety Check, right?
People go to Safety Check, and often in times of disasters and other sorts of events.
And alongside Safety Check, they show news stories, right, news stories that are supposed to provide context about what's happening.
And in this case, Facebook was also pulling in misinformation, pulling in sort of hyper-partisan news stories, pulling in far-right sort of news sources, also things that were misidentifying victims and the shooter and things like that.
So this was coming from trolls, either propaganda reasons, either pulling pranks, whatever.
Their false information was popping up right at the top of these screens.
Facebook and Google.
I think there was another clip that had him with more right to what the person at the time.
Yeah, you're gonna have to dig it up and iso it.
Yeah, it's better the other one, where he throws in the middle of a sentence.
Right?
Wrong?
Right?
Yeah, exactly.
Good enough.
You get the idea.
Alright, thanks to... Let's see, Leo Lapuke.
Thanks to Brian Longenecker and UK PMX for the end of show mixes that we'll be playing today for your entertainment pleasure.
And is there a game I need to watch?
Who's playing some World Series?
No, they're in the divisional playoffs right now, so you're gonna have to wait.
Uh-oh.
For these games to be over.
But I would say, I think, all these baseball games right now, the two series that are out there, they're very entertaining.
I would watch them.
Okay.
Thanks.
No less than I did a second ago.
Yeah, you don't know anything.
Never mind.
Forget it.
Coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas, here in the Common Law condo, in the 5x9 Cluedio.
In the capital of the drone star states, in the morning, everybody, my name's Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's actually very nice out, there's no signs of this forest fires, which are forest and urban fires, which are still going on.
I don't know how long this is gonna last, but, uh, hopefully it'll be over soon.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
We return on Thursday, right here, on No Agenda.
Until then, as always, adios, mofos!
I'm full of worms, man.
Full of worms, man.
Oh, wow.
Well, you did live in Africa.
I'm full of worms, man.
I'm gonna grow, man.
Grow, man.
Grow, man.
Get some work.
Go to the veterinarian.
I'm full of worms, man.
It's disgusting.
I'm going to hurl, man.
I'm full of worms, man.
You don't likey.
No agenda show now with more worms, man.
I'm full of worms, man.
Go to your doctor and say, hey, I got worms.
And after the doctor stops laughing, he'll give you something really funny.
You'll poop them out.
Worms just twitching in my head.
I'm thoroughly grossed out.
I'm pretty good.
Because it got pretty noisy.
It's a teeny green music box.
I'm pretty good.
I'm pretty good.
3, 2, 1.
Right on.
Far out.
My bad.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Yes, yes, I hate it.
Where does it come from?
You called me out on it once.
Once and one time only.
And I have never said it since.
When did it start?
It originates in pickup basketball as a phrase used by young urban players when admitting to an error.
It's now widely used to mean something like, I admit that I have made a mistake.
My bad.
My bad.
Cultural appropriation is your answer.
Guess what it is?
Good street argot that you've picked up by whiting.
You can call people out when they say that.
I'm gonna do that.
You know that's cultural appropriation from urban pickup basketball.
So, you know, you really should be ashamed of yourself.
My bad.
It's a glib way of saying, I made a mistake, so what?
My bad.
Why don't I have songs?
Artists suck.
What's going on?
Why am I losing this?
There's insanity in the control room tonight.
Someone's pressing buttons.
Someone in that control room is out of control.
Where's the hammer?
Stop the hammering!
Stop the hammering!
Someone's pressing buttons.
Stop the hammering!
Stop the hammering out there!
Stop the hammering out there.
Where's the hammer?
Stop the hammering.
Stop the hammering.
Stop the hammering!
Someone's pressing buttons.
Stop the hammering!
Stop the hammering out there!
Where's the hammer?
Someone's pressing buttons.
Turning my sound on.
Why don't I have sound?
All right, it's back.
Where's the hammer?
Stop the hammer.
Stop the hammering!
Someone's pressing buttons.
Stop the hammering!
Stop the hammering out there!
Where's the hammer?
Stop the hammering!
Stop the hammering!
Someone's pressing buttons.
Stop the hammering.
Stop the hammering.
Someone's pressing buttons.
Stop the hammering.
Stop the hammering out there.
Where's the hammer?
Why do I have sound?
Bye.
There's insanity in the control room.
Someone's pressing buttons here.
Someone in that control room is out of control.
Stop the hammering out there!
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