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	It's Trump Watch Wednesday.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	And it's Thursday, October 5th, 2017.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 970.
	This is no agenda.
	Broadcasting with one gigabit of bandwidth power.
	And coming to you from the darkest corners of the Internet here in downtown Austin, Tejas, capital of the Drone Star State, in the Cluedio.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, we've got no gigabit here.
	I'm John C. Devorak.
	Yes, I'm so happy.
	About that, at least.
	That I don't have a gigabit?
	No, that I have a gigabit.
	I've learned so much.
	What have you learned?
	Well, first of all, that the Google Fiber is actually already in my apartment with an optical network converter interface.
	Remember, they said my building doesn't exist.
	We don't know when it's going to come in.
	Yeah.
	So the AT&T guy comes here.
	Great guy.
	I'm not a fan of AT&T. I've had lots of problems with them in the past.
	I've dropped them.
	You'll have problems again.
	Don't worry about it.
	I'm sure I will.
	But besides the bandwidth being pretty much, if you do a hardwired, you're getting about 980 kilobits per second.
	So that works.
	Megabits per second.
	I'm sorry.
	On Wi-Fi, probably about four, something like that.
	But here's the interesting thing.
	I'm dropping the Spectrum cable, so I also have their U-verse, which I was like, no, it's probably going to suck.
	This thing is great!
	What's great?
	Well, the first thing is the speed of switching channels.
	On cables, like you switch.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Okay, you've got me confused because you threw this U-verse thing in.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	It's the television part.
	So you get the internet and then you get television to go along with it.
	And that's part of the gigabit.
	I took it because I want to get rid of the $300 a month spectrum bill.
	Screw those guys.
	Right.
	Did you dump that completely?
	No, no, no.
	Not yet because what I'm going to do is I'm going to call them.
	I'm going to tell them that I'm going to drop it and I'm going to record the call for training purposes.
	Oh, it reminds me.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, I'm sure they'll bring it down significantly before I still shove it to them.
	Okay.
	And, but the, I'm very, very surprised with the U-verse.
	The best thing about that, besides the switching, is their universal remote actually works.
	You don't have to switch devices.
	It's beautiful.
	Okay.
	And that's what Tina likes a lot about it.
	It's complicated switching between input sources.
	It sucks.
	What gun do I use?
	Exactly.
	Okay.
	Well, talking about guns...
	Was there something going on?
	There was an event.
	Yeah, I hear.
	That is apparently up to us to figure out.
	Yeah, and I want to say right off the bat...
	Although it really hasn't been mentioned that way, I consider this to be a 9-11 event where people are...
	I'm in shock.
	People are in shock.
	And when people are in shock, that's the best time to push an agenda, a narrative, put ideas into people's heads.
	And I'm really concerned about this.
	I think only now we're starting to realize what kind of effect 9-11-2001 had.
	This is going to be pretty big.
	Fake, real, I don't care.
	The shock is real and we need to recognize that and be very careful what you're opening yourself up to, including what we're saying.
	We don't have the solutions to everything.
	No, but we do have some theories and some thoughts and we've obviously spent too much time going after one thing or another to see, you know, what What is going to come of it?
	I see this as a legitimate event that was completely unexpected by the Deep State.
	By pretty much everybody.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Yeah, but the Deep State is the way...
	See, they have been trying to analyze what's been going on and some of the news items that...
	That they were leading into, and they turned out to be dead ends because of this thing that happened in Las Vegas.
	It screwed up two narratives that I could spot.
	Which was?
	Well, one of them was the Tillerson, he's a moron commentary that was going to lead to some discussion of North Korea.
	And I was looking at my old clip list, and I didn't play these clips.
	And people are going to have to tolerate how we're going to get into this discussion.
	I have a little funny short clip about the Tillerson hate, if you want.
	Well, I've got a bunch of clips about Tillerson, but let me just mention that I believe there were two narratives that were going to get pushed through the media.
	One was Tillerson, and we'll play some of those clips.
	And I think it has something to do with North Korea, because if you look at them last week, and I moved those clips forward, I didn't use them on the last show, but there were clips about North Korea, which this Tillerson thing had something to do with.
	And it started with a Mark Morrell clip, where he's on Charlie Rose talking about North Korea to lead into what's going to happen, or was supposed to happen this week, with the moron clip.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	So, stop.
	I just want to reiterate what you said.
	This event, which I agree was not expected by anyone, certainly not in deep state.
	And I have a number of pieces, I think, evidence for that.
	But they were working on Trump being a moron about North Korea.
	And that was a story, that line that was being promoted.
	And I have some of the, when you play your clip, so Mike, the biggest, most disappointed group of reporters was NBC.
	They felt so bad that they couldn't get this narrative out that they would interrupt the Vegas coverage to go on and on about it.
	Now, the other one, the other one was, and in this case, ABC couldn't take it and they had to play a clip.
	This relates back to the Chelsea bombing that took place in New York that was kind of a Mandela effect moment, where a pressure cooker bomb was released.
	Yeah, released, yes, in the streets of New York City, in Chelsea.
	Yeah, in Chelsea.
	And so now they had, this was going to be the week of the trial, and they have new film, and they have a new picture of the explosion, they got 911 calls.
	Beautiful.
	And they had all that lined up.
	And now it's just a dead end.
	I mean, I do have some clips that are funny looking back on it.
	Well, let me just play the quick...
	You want to go into the moron thing first?
	Let's do the moron.
	Let me just play this.
	This is just Chris Matthews with the soliloquy that kind of sets the stage.
	I mean, who gives a crap?
	Who gives a crap?
	But okay.
	Trump Watch Wednesday, October 4th.
	Trump Watch Wednesday, everybody.
	2017.
	Confident presidents surround themselves with a cabinet and advisors smarter than they believe themselves to be.
	By that standard, Donald Trump has expanded his horizons.
	He's selected a secretary of state, someone to marshal U.S. foreign policy, who thinks the president is a moron.
	Moron.
	Interesting choice of words.
	According to the dictionary, Secretary Tillerson could just as accurately said idiot, blockhead, dunce, ignoramus, imbecile.
	One more.
	Half-wit, dope, nincompoop, dimwit, dingbat, dumbo, ditz, numbskull, numnut, thickhead, jughead, chowderhead, goofus.
	All right, I'm going to give you a borderline clip right off the bat.
	Yeah, just a borderline, though.
	Borderline!
	This was a good example of everybody in the media wanting to use the words Trump is a moron.
	And they kept trying to get Tillerson to say that he wasn't, which of course is another clippable, and so Tillerson wouldn't play the game.
	Although then they accused him of, he refused to deny!
	And this was a joke, this whole situation.
	And the NBC, which is the one who broke the story, they came out and it was just almost embarrassing how much they had to keep talking about it because they had broke the story and they were so happy with themselves.
	Let's start with MSNBC. This is MSNBC, the Katie Turr show.
	She has the reporter who wrote the story, and she's got another.
	There's no more backup.
	And they kind of give away something in this particular clip.
	Is this the spooking the moron?
	MSNBC spooking.
	Yes.
	I don't know what that means.
	I am told that there were a whole host of policy issues where they saw things very differently.
	So the bottom line here, it is striking that you didn't hear the Secretary of State refute the fact that he called the president a moron.
	Our story is widely sourced.
	Twelve current and past administration officials corroborating our...
	Wait a minute.
	What are you dinging the bell for, old man?
	What is this 12?
	You want service?
	Why are they saying 12?
	Why are they making a point of exactly how many people they got to source from?
	I found that to be very peculiar.
	Interesting.
	Where they saw things very differently.
	So, the bottom line here, it is striking that you didn't hear the Secretary of State refute the fact that he called the President a moron.
	Our story is widely sourced.
	12 current and past Administration officials corroborating our reporting, seven specifically saying that the Secretary of State did intend to resign, and now those tensions have been brought to the forefront.
	Katie, and I think the problem for this administration is that now it potentially becomes a real policy issue for them as they try to deal with Crises like North Korea, one of the most pressing problems facing the president right now.
	And whether or not Tillerson has any credibility to speak for the administration, whether he can be seen as somebody who has the ear of the president, they're speaking in one voice, that's certainly an issue.
	I was struck that Tillerson, not only did he not come out and directly refute calling the president a moron, but he did come out and just lavish praise on him.
	There's one headline out there that That put it this way, Tillerson on Trump, he's smart.
	Is that going to be enough for this president who is so hyper-aware of how he is being perceived, his own self-image?
	Katie, I wouldn't be surprised if the president does his own due diligence on this story, his own digging.
	As Carol and I have been reporting throughout the day, it's not clear that that moron comment ever reached him.
	And so this may be the first time that he's really learning about this.
	I anticipate he's going to have some conversations in the wake of this reporting.
	And we'll have to see.
	But you're absolutely right.
	I mean, obviously, one of the key things for this president is trust.
	And that is something that he's going to have to evaluate moving forward if he in fact can trust and has the trust of the Secretary of State.
	Trust, loyalty, and praise as well.
	Ladies, great job on this reporting.
	Great job, ladies.
	Who cares?
	You have to remember that...
	This was recorded right in the throat of the Vegas shooting.
	They just had to bring this up.
	And the same thing with the mainstream news.
	In other words, the night news.
	You know why?
	They probably had ads already pre-scheduled around it.
	They may have had ads, but I think that they were just, oh my God, we put all this work in and we didn't get any credit because all this other bull crap's going on.
	So let's just play one other clip, which is the NBC Moran Report.
	This is the network news.
	This is the big news show.
	In Washington, President Trump is returning to new fallout from our NBC News exclusive report revealing high tensions between him and his Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.
	Tonight, Tillerson is firing back after multiple official sources told NBC News he came to the brink of resigning over the summer.
	And the Secretary responding to another explosive detail in our reporting that he insulted the President in front of other officials.
	Let's get more from NBC's Andrea Mitchell.
	Tonight, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson coming out to respond to an NBC News report about friction with the President and that he was on the verge of resigning this summer.
	There are some news reports this morning that I want to address.
	But stopping short of a full denial.
	There's never been a consideration in my mind to leave.
	But senior administration officials confirmed to NBC News Tillerson threatened to resign in July.
	The boiling point, the president's highly political speech to the Boy Scouts, a group Tillerson once led.
	We won Florida, we won South Carolina, we won North Carolina, we won Pennsylvania.
	Just days earlier, Tillerson even called the president a moron after a Pentagon meeting, according to three senior officials.
	Oh, what happened to 12?
	Well, apparently the three verified the...
	And you know who the three are.
	Freebus, Banyan, and probably one of the other guys that was fired.
	This is going back to July.
	They don't have these guys in the White House anymore to leak.
	So they had to find something they did back in July.
	I found it to be...
	They're desperate.
	And they put a lot of work into the story.
	They plugged it and Tried to make it go somewhere.
	It got nowhere.
	I mean, I think the best example is your clip, which was, okay, well, we don't have anything.
	There's no story here, so let's look in the dictionary and read off all the synonyms for all the things we want to call Trump.
	You know, it's interesting that, you know, that was Matthews because, you know, We'll just do it live!
	He asked to have that all written for him.
	We just do that on the show.
	Read the dictionary definition of something.
	Read the dictionary.
	Yeah.
	So this was one of the stories that was a complete dead end.
	It was apparently the old leakers back again.
	They can't leak from the...
	I mean, they don't have any new material that they can use, so they dug this thing up.
	And it just made a big fuss about it.
	And unfortunately, nobody cares because of the shooting.
	Now, the other one, which is I just only have one clip.
	Well, I actually have two clips.
	First of all, I have an idiotic 911 call.
	This is about the Chelsea bombing back in September of 2016, I believe is when it was.
	Mm-hmm.
	And there was a, so they, the big news, oh, they played this 911 clip in court, and by the way, I had the, this clip, which was put on New York Daily News, had the woman's phone number in it.
	Oh, jeez.
	I can't believe that they ran it this way, but yeah, let's play, this is a, this is a classic 911 clip.
	911, where can we just see?
	Well, I saw something suspicious on my street.
	It's 135 West 27th Street.
	135 West 27th Street, okay.
	Between 6th and 7th in Manhattan.
	There's like a pot that takes shut and has wires coming out of it.
	And goes into another bag.
	It just looked like it could...
	I was afraid it was like a bomb, and I know there was just a bomb on 23rd Earth explosion.
	How long ago the explosion was there?
	What?
	How long ago the explosion took place?
	Ugh.
	No, no, there was no explosion.
	I just said I saw this pot with wires coming out of it on the street.
	Okay.
	Power wires coming out of the street.
	She sounds pretty alarmed again, 9-1-1 operator.
	I just found this to be fascinating.
	Hopping right on it.
	I'm almost convinced that they put these 9-1-1 operators in place just as an F-U to the public.
	Or a buffer.
	Okay, I see something here.
	1-3-5 West 27th Street.
	Let me see if I see a jab around here, okay?
	Let me see if this is the same thing.
	This email says, "Pot wrapped up with duct tape." - Yeah. - And it wires out.
	- Yeah, someone already called?
	- Yeah, all done. - I hope I never have to call 911. - Pot wrapped up with tape and a bai zangna.
	What?
	Like Ms.
	Swan.
	Do we have to listen to all of this?
	Yes, yes, you have to.
	And, um, it looks suspicious.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	What's your name?
	Jane Shrigman.
	Your telephone number?
	Very good.
	Thank you.
	Did you already send the police here from the other call?
	Yeah, police already.
	That's my priority job.
	It's high parity.
	Number one parity.
	Have this on the way.
	It's a very high parity job.
	No, but I'm asking if this is the second...
	Am I the second person that called?
	Yeah.
	That's right.
	And it's very high parity.
	Number one parity.
	They respond to that right away.
	Okay.
	Everybody's coming in.
	There's no cops around.
	Are they outsourcing our 911 to India or something?
	I have no idea.
	Even the delay.
	There's even a delay there.
	It may be the Philippines.
	Well, let me just remind everybody.
	If you see something, say something.
	Anyway, the only network that played anything about this damn Chelsea trial, because they also had an obligation, because I think they were given the lead, Like NBC was given the lead on the moron story.
	ABC ran this little thing, and this is the only clip I have, which is the Chelsea bomber.
	A surveillance of the alleged New York City bomber, prosecutors say Ahmed Rahimi is seen carrying two explosive devices concealed in duffel bags through a very crowded Penn Station.
	One of the pressure cooker bombs exploding on the street about an hour later.
	Okay, now how does all this tie back into Las Vegas?
	Well, it doesn't, but the point, how it ties into me is that Las Vegas is obviously not part of a government narrative.
	I agree.
	So when I read, like, there's a number of analysts and there's some people that you can kind of take more seriously than others.
	They, you know, kind of didn't appreciate this, that this thing is completely off the books, has nothing to do with anything that was planned, which is generally the news cycle.
	And I mean, we've been following the six month cycle, six month cycle and some of these other things.
	And I think it also screwed up Nancy Pelosi's town hall.
	Oh, I think we have the identical clip.
	That was fantastic.
	The one at the beginning?
	Oh, fantastic.
	Where the guy reads the questions.
	I know who he is.
	You do?
	Yeah, of course.
	I'll play your clip.
	Where is it?
	Pelosi town hall.
	I'll tell you who the guy is.
	Oh, you got a very long version.
	Hold on.
	I have the whole clip.
	Yeah, I don't think you need that here.
	Probably not.
	No, this one.
	But I like it because I have another clip of Pelosi, which is a very short clip about she was on some other show and she was apparently brought on for whatever the promotion was of the week.
	The shooting took place, and so she had to answer some questions about that, and she didn't have any rehearsal time, apparently.
	I just want you to play that clip first, and tell me if you can understand a word she says.
	Hundreds of shots.
	But something that we did with President Bush when I was speaker was we had the digital, in terms of the background checks, digitizing the funds to do that so that people would, it was more serviceable.
	Now somebody said, I think somebody in the White House was saying, oh, Chicago has the toughest gun laws in the country, but still they have the most murders on the street.
	But all you do is cross the line into Indiana, open up your trunk, fill it up, and take it back.
	So we have to have a national law to do that if you're going to a gun show or buying on the internet.
	Yeah, you're right.
	She is apparently so incredibly rehearsed that she just can't think on her feet anymore.
	She does know that there's legislation working, they're doing something, so she knows that.
	That's why she can talk about that.
	Here's what she sounds like, very different, when it's a scripted question from a shill in the audience.
	This was the Nancy Pelosi Dreamers Town Hall on CNN with the Cuomo kid.
	Thank you, Leader Pelosi.
	I'm a DACA beneficiary, and I am terrified that a deal with Trump would mean That even if it protects me and my sisters who also have DACA would enable Trump's mass deportation agents to go after my family.
	We need a solution.
	By the way, I like how he says, you know, Trump's agents to go after my family, like Hitler is on the way with his brown shirts.
	I think that this clip of yours is, my clip again just shows.
	This was the intention of this town hall.
	Yes, sir.
	Was stuff like this, as opposed to, oh, my God, we just had this shooting, and it screwed up all of our schemes, all of our plans, all of our blueprints.
	And they had to start off with the question about the shooting, which is the one I have.
	But this is – I believe this question is the one that – The nucleus.
	The nucleus.
	This is what they were supposed to be talking about.
	And this kid is perfect to be the spokeshole.
	I think we're seeing more of him.
	Text me and my sisters who also have DACA would enable Trump's mass deportation agents to go out.
	A little bit.
	Trump's mass deportation would enable Trump's mass deportation agents to go after my family.
	What did he say?
	Mass deportation?
	Trump's mass deportation agents.
	It's apparently a new group.
	MDP, baby.
	Trump's mass deportation agents to go after my family.
	We need a solution, and we need it soon.
	Do you commit to pass a clean dream act?
	Now, when I heard that, and I've been excoriated for it because...
	Why wouldn't someone normal say that?
	No.
	No one says pass a clean bill.
	Clean.
	Clean.
	Clean bill, and I will tell you who this is, then we'll let Pelosi answer her scripted question.
	This is Adrienne Reyna, Director of Membership and Technology Strategies at UnitedWeDream.com.
	United We Dream is the largest immigrant youth-led organization in the nation.
	Our powerful nonpartisan network is made up of our 100,000 immigrant youth and allies and 55 affiliate organizations in 26 states.
	He is a shill.
	He's not introduced as such.
	He's just a nice dreamer.
	Nice dreamer who wants a clean bill for December.
	Yes.
	And let me tell you, actually you may recall, that when we had this arrangement with the President, he called the next day, early in the morning, and I said, Mr.
	President, you have to, it's very important for you to send a message to our DREAMers that you're not going after that, not to worry about this, because this is a worry we all have.
	Our dreamers, they make America dream again.
	They're so lovely.
	Nice bastardization.
	Wait for it.
	Wait for it.
	That's the new slogan they've been looking for.
	Make America dream again.
	Go back to sleep.
	It's so out of place you have to be correct.
	Go back to sleep.
	It's all a dream.
	It will be fine.
	Our dreamers, they make America dream again.
	They're so, so lovely.
	And we frankly owe a debt to your parents for bringing you here to be such a brilliant part of our future.
	A constant reinvigoration of America.
	That's what newcomers are.
	Newcomers.
	That's what they call them in the alien movies.
	Mada!
	Make America dream again.
	Your courage with your optimism.
	Their commitment to making the future better for their children.
	That's what Americans are all about.
	She sucks.
	She's a bumbler.
	They shouldn't have done this.
	She's probably the one who insisted on this.
	They needed a spokesperson to do this, but she is the top dog.
	Yes.
	Yeah, you're right.
	You can put up with as much as you want, but this is a guy who's reading.
	He's reading this very slowly, and this is the first question that began the whole event.
	Joining us.
	I'm sorry, and I just want to...
	And it's about the shooting, so it's a real problem for her.
	Joining us.
	What would you like to say tonight?
	Thank you for having me.
	Leader Pelosi, I am not opposed to having a gun for protection.
	My wife and I had a gun for that reason.
	We talked about guns and both felt that there is no reason to own the type of guns and the amount of ammunition that the shooter had.
	There was Sandy Hook, Florida, San Bernardino.
	How many more lives have to be taken before something is done?
	Congresswoman Pelosi, as a leader on Capitol Hill, what are you going to do to stop this?
	First of all, thank you for sharing this.
	Hold on a second.
	That is the same speechwriter.
	Hold on.
	I think it was the same line.
	Hold on, let me hear what this kid said.
	Thank you.
	Leader Pelosi.
	I'm a DACA beneficiary.
	Leader Pelosi.
	Is that typical?
	Yes, no.
	Throughout these questions, there was somebody who wrote, probably who wrote the questions, but there seemed to be an insistence on the Pelosi office that she had to be constantly referred to as der leader.
	Der leader.
	So she's the leader, the leader, as the leader, as the leader, as the leader.
	I found it a little, I noticed it too, and I found it very annoying.
	First of all, thank you for sharing this time with us.
	Amber, to you and your dad, again, the condolences of all America are with you.
	Your question is one that everyone is asking.
	In fact, John Lewis asked on the steps of the Capitol today over and over again.
	Before I answer, though, I want your permission to pray for your family.
	May I have your permission?
	Thank you.
	I feel honored by that.
	I thought this was the most awkward moment in the whole thing.
	Can I have permission to pray for your family?
	Now, she is Jewish and doesn't understand that Christians don't ask for...
	You don't need or you don't...
	Need to ask for permission.
	In fact, it's the point where with the Mormons, they will have you baptized as a Mormon without your permission.
	PTL, baby!
	So there is no...
	This is like a crazy man's question that she would say this, and they're looking at each other going, I sure...
	We have been trying for a very long time to get really common sense gun safety, gun violence prevention legislation passed.
	Gun violence prevention safety.
	She starts off with gun safety.
	First thing she says is...
	We're trying to get some gun safety violence protection.
	And she mumbles her way through this because she's not prepared.
	That's fantastic.
	Violence prevention legislation passed.
	Because you asked the question so well.
	Children in a classroom, people in church, young people in a nightclub, many more thousands listening to music.
	And I will say that, let me just bring it up here.
	Not Pelosi, but Feinstein has already put a bill in place.
	There's no text to the bill yet.
	Actually, it was entered today.
	And the title of it, we do have that.
	It says, Senate Bill 1916, a bill to prohibit the possession or transfer of certain firearm accessories and for other purposes.
	So we know what that is, obviously.
	Actually, Pelosi discusses this.
	I don't have the clip, but she discusses it in some It claims there's dozens of these bills to prevent what we're going to discuss later in the show, which is that bump stock.
	It's too bad that...
	That there's no text, but this was clearly prepared.
	If she can get it done this morning, then I'll say it was reasonably prepared.
	But they definitely hustled to get this entered into the books.
	Coming together as a community.
	How many more incidences of this should it take?
	It's important to note that a mass murder is defined as four murders or more at one episode.
	I think it's three or more, but okay.
	Well, she's mixing up mass shootings.
	Which is four.
	With mass murders.
	Ah.
	Very good.
	Good catch.
	And they're like one a day in our country.
	270 some mass murders.
	This is nonsense.
	270 mass murders?
	That is not true.
	No.
	And two-thirds of all gun deaths are suicide.
	Maybe she's only talking about Chicago.
	That's possible.
	Can we have background checks so that people who shouldn't have guns don't have them?
	Can we have background checks?
	Every state has a background check.
	That may not have prevented what happened in Las Vegas.
	We don't know all of the details of that yet.
	But it could prevent and has prevented many, many other murders.
	I want to take that suggestion, which is bipartisan.
	Please, let's put together a select committee, a 60-day term to say, let's find our common ground.
	We take an oath to protect and defend the American people, and we're not doing that.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no!
	You take an oath to uphold, protect, defend the Constitution!
	By the way, she's not Jewish, she's Catholic.
	I thought she was Jewish.
	Well, I don't understand why she did that then.
	Praise be, Brother John.
	That's right.
	Praise be.
	You just pray if you want to pray.
	Just say, let's find our common ground.
	We take an oath to protect and defend the American people, and we're not doing that.
	So your impatience.
	And the weight that you bring to your question is a real challenge to the conscience of all of us.
	And we're never going to rest.
	We've said this to the families over and over again.
	We're never going to rest until we get this done.
	But we have to shorten the distance between what is inevitable to us and inconceivable to others.
	We have to bring that closer together.
	So thank you for turning your grief into power to make a difference in other people's lives.
	And thank you for the honor to be able to pray for your family.
	Thank you.
	Bob Patterson, Amber, thank you for joining us tonight.
	Let us know how we can help going forward.
	By the way, the good Lord just told me, asking permission to pray for someone is called prayers of agency.
	And that is to get someone's permission to pray for them, and that is more powerful than passive third-party prayers.
	Thank you for the update.
	Yes, just letting you know.
	Okay, the chat room came up with that.
	Somebody in the chat room is devout.
	Not just someone.
	And I appreciate it.
	This is a moment.
	I think we should stop the show.
	It's a moment in history.
	Hold on a second.
	It's actually contributed something of value to the conversation.
	And it's from a religious one.
	No, no, that.
	It had to be.
	Most of them are irreligious, let me tell you.
	No, I disagree.
	I disagree.
	Okay, I know.
	You have to defend them somehow.
	I don't have to defend anybody.
	I'm just saying, I think we have a large contingent of believers of all different faiths.
	We have a variety.
	Most people in the world are religious.
	I would say that's probably true.
	Yeah.
	Except in Holland.
	All right.
	Oh, the Protestants.
	So let's...
	Hey, there's two clips that I find important.
	And neither of them are news reports per se, but this is from last evening's briefing from the Clark County Sheriff, Joe Lombardo.
	And the first thing, well there are two things I noticed in previous briefings.
	One is the inherent lack of FBI involvement.
	And typically with any type of event, certainly one of this magnitude, the FBI are doing their own press conferences.
	I talked to Dame Angela Castaneda in Vegas.
	By the way, she's okay.
	Her family's okay.
	One of her friend's cousin, I think, got shot.
	He's going to be okay.
	One of her friend's dads got trampled on.
	He's going to be okay.
	But she said that the FBI has no standing in Vegas, that the gaming police...
	Have, you know, rule the roost.
	In no way can the FBI just muscle.
	I don't know if that's true.
	It sounds believable.
	It wouldn't surprise me considering the way Nevada operates.
	I know the FBI is there and the FBI grabbed the girlfriend.
	I know that and they have her.
	Well, but hold on.
	So the FBI, this is what really bothered me, that the only guy they got at the FBI was some schlub, special agent Aaron Rouse, who was placed there in 2016.
	He used to be counterintelligence in D.C. I looked around.
	He really has not done anything of any significance.
	You just do his name and then affidavit, because that's how you find out.
	I would assume that...
	The FBI outpost in Nevada, wherever it is, is the no man's land.
	It's one of those places they send you when you've done poorly in D.C. Exactly.
	So then I went to the FBI.gov website, and if you look at what they do, they say their primary responsibility is for events like this.
	They also, on their most wanted list, this is very odd.
	You just go to it, FBI.gov, and just go to the top most wanted list.
	They have James Hodgkinson.
	He's the guy who shot Scalise.
	And they've got his photo in there, and a big red banner, deceased!
	But yet, nothing.
	And to this day, to this morning, when I last checked, not a single news article, nothing about...
	Their involvement in what they're doing.
	And it's just not typical.
	Okay, fine.
	Maybe our dame is correct.
	She may be correct.
	But at the same time, I heard a lot of guns from nine different manufacturers that led me to believe, wow, that might be an interesting way, although I don't think that's the case, might be an interesting way to implicate all gun manufacturers.
	It's certainly handy for the narrative that is being built right now.
	But the things that the County Clark Sheriff said last night were of high interest.
	These clips are not too long.
	More than 100 investigators have spent the last 72 hours combing through the life of 64-year-old Steven Paddock to produce a profile of someone I will call disturbed and dangerous.
	We have no profile on the guy.
	And he's reading this, by the way.
	And the sheriff is very tired.
	He has a short fuse.
	If you look at the video, you see the FBI agent just staring at him.
	There's little movements in his face about when he says things, when he flubs things up.
	But this was written for him, and he is told to say this.
	That, you know, we have a profile of a...
	Well, you'll hear it.
	To produce a profile of someone I will call disturbed and dangerous.
	What we know is Stephen Paddock is a man who spent decades acquiring weapons and ammo and living a secret life.
	Living a secret life?
	I've never heard this.
	Unless they say a secret life of a double agent, a secret life of a, you know...
	An undercover cop.
	I don't know.
	It could have been anything, but a secret life.
	Much of which will never be fully understood.
	And why will we never fully understand that?
	These things...
	That is putting something in your head at the moment you're most vulnerable.
	I don't like it.
	Meticulously...
	Sorry?
	Yeah, go on.
	Keep playing.
	...will never be fully understood.
	He meticulously planned on the worst domestic attack in United States history.
	As many of you already reported, Paddock rented a room at the Ogden Hotel in downtown Las Vegas.
	This has been confirmed, okay?
	Reasons that ran through Paddock's mind is unknown, but it was directly during the same time his life is beautiful.
	We have received recovered evidence from that location.
	We don't know if it is evidence, but we have recovered items in video evidence.
	You know what, I'm using the wrong term.
	Evidence is not the term.
	We have a recovered video from there to review Mr.
	Paddock's actions while he was there.
	Now, it's important for you to understand, the rooms were not rented by the Ogden.
	Now, why is this important to understand that the rooms were not rented by the Ogden Hotel?
	Why is that important?
	I don't understand why it's important.
	Well, he should say why it's important.
	He's not gonna say it.
	The rooms were not rented by the Ogden.
	It was done through Airbnb.
	Maybe it's important because Airbnb is now a terrorist outfit or something.
	There's something about that that's important.
	Maybe it's the ownership of the Ogden.
	There's a lot of issues with ownership of MGM donating to care.
	A lot of hotels have permanent rooms for permanent residents.
	I'm sure, but why is it important to tell us that?
	That's all.
	Why is it important?
	Well, I think from his perspective, it's important because we have no real evidence that he ever stayed there.
	Okay.
	It was done through Airbnb by a private owner known to the Ogden.
	So we have very great...
	Hold on a second.
	Well, never mind.
	He confused.
	I know what he said now.
	But he says the private owner is unknown to the Ogden.
	What he meant was that the deal was unknown to the Ogden.
	Okay, he's just a guy who's confused.
	So they're not responsible, I presume.
	Unknown to the Ogden.
	So we have very great cooperation from the owners of Life is Beautiful and the Ogden, and they're in full cooperation.
	Okay.
	So that's really all that was important, and mainly the secret life, a profile of a crazy, disturbed individual, and paraphrasing.
	Now let's hear from the goofy doofus from the FBI. To say that this investigation will take a while is not surprising.
	So there's a lot of information that's going to change over time as we determine more facts.
	But this is what I can tell you.
	Okay.
	Our resolve is firm.
	What is that?
	That was it?
	No, no.
	This is what I can tell you.
	Our resolve is firm.
	Thanks, I expect that from you.
	I can tell you.
	Our resolve is firm.
	We will get to the bottom of this, no matter how long it takes.
	Sounds like a guy whose agency got effed.
	The FBI has deployed over 100 personnel from across the nation to assist the Las Vegas Division in this investigation.
	This includes victim witness assistants, EAP counselors, evidence technicians, and technical assets.
	Not to mention additional agents to help cover leads.
	The information that the public provides us is going to help us solve this.
	But we must focus on facts.
	We cannot give in to conjecture and we cannot respond to every little Twitter feed that may indicate a theory.
	There was a lot of this.
	The sheriff spoke about it multiple times.
	They're really irked about the conspiracy theories.
	And this is nothing new.
	When something happens, boom, everybody's on social media.
	But when they were in control of it...
	Which again, this is obviously not.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	When they were in control of it, they weren't so irked because it was like they don't know what's going on either and they don't want a bunch of...
	It's just a mess for them.
	...that may indicate a theory.
	We need to focus on the facts.
	You need us to be right.
	You expect us to be right.
	And we want to be right.
	There's going to be questions.
	I'm sure you're going to have questions about some people that we've been talking to.
	Maybe people outside of the United States.
	The fundamental trust of the American people and the FBI is based upon our discretion.
	And how good would that discretion be if we were to provide information that they provided to us?
	Inconfidence.
	I believe he's talking about other countries' law enforcement agencies in this case.
	This is about informing on an investigation.
	This is about resolving an investigation.
	So specifics regarding any individual contact cannot be answered.
	You need us.
	You trust us.
	And the way we have that trust is by using good discretion about what we share.
	Again, this is his moment to put stuff into your head.
	You trust us.
	You trust us.
	Well, before you go on with your clips, I have to stop and play two clips backing up your first clip.
	Because I think that was an important clip you played.
	But it was taken to an extreme when I went over to...
	I think this is CBS. No, Brian Ross, I think, is NBC. But play the Brian Ross clip which profiles the shooter.
	Authorities now are putting together a psychological profile of the shooter.
	A 64-year-old one-time accountant and IRS agent who claimed to be a multimillionaire.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute.
	I've heard this once or twice.
	An IRS agent?
	This is not really...
	Is this confirmed?
	I think it is.
	That he worked for the IRS. I've only heard he was an accountant.
	No, I know.
	That's what this clip is interesting.
	This is the only time that IRS thing was actually brought to the fore.
	Ah, interesting.
	...
	who claimed to be a multimillionaire.
	But investigators say a picture is emerging of a man descending into madness, losing weight, diminished physical appearance, what are described as crazy eyes.
	Ha ha!
	Coupled with easy access to the powerful weapons he began to accumulate more than a year ago, a deadly combination.
	Yeah, there it is.
	There it is.
	Crazy.
	We've got to make him crazy.
	Well, now we go to CBS and your buddy Jeff Pegues.
	It was Jeff.
	The guy was taking the dump all the time.
	Oh, the dumper.
	Yeah.
	And he brings in a guy, some ex-FBI guy, who decides to just go off the deep end with an analysis.
	He's not even in Vegas, as far as I can tell.
	He's just some random guy.
	And he goes crazy on this.
	Paddock's mental health and whether something happened in October of 2016 that pushed him to stockpile most of the 47 guns and rifles in his arsenal.
	Man, he needs a little less fiber in his diet.
	Also of interest, whether Paddock was considering targeting another large concert that took place in Las Vegas a week before the country music festival.
	Manny Gomez is a former FBI agent.
	This person was looking for the best target opportunity and it didn't matter what crowd he was going to fire into.
	He was looking for the largest impact for this attack.
	Investigators say Paddock spent a lot of his time gambling in the days before the attack and more than a dozen currency transaction reports filed with the U.S. Treasury Department.
	Back that up.
	Anthony.
	Now, before I do anything else, I would like to play a clip of a former CIA agent.
	Well, before you do that, I want to say something about this last clip.
	Which is, this guy goes out of his way, and this is CBS, so we're talking, you're going to play a CIA clip I just did.
	No, you played an FBI clip.
	No, I just played a CIA clip, it was the CBS report.
	Oh, I thought you said it was an FBI guy, I'm sorry.
	It was a retired FBI guy.
	He said it was FBI. Oh, I'm talking about the CIA being CBS. I'm so confused.
	You are.
	So let's, what the guy said, and I take it very seriously what it said on CBS because it's like from, you know.
	It's from God, yes.
	From God.
	He says it doesn't matter what the venue was.
	He just wanted to kill as many people as possible.
	Why would they bring some guy on, some guy that was an ex-FBI? He doesn't know anything.
	To say that.
	To say that specific thing.
	Yeah.
	Which I'll get back to that.
	I want people to remember that because when I have my thesis, it will involve that.
	That's interesting because the actual former CIA agent, who's I think a Fox contributor, Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer, I don't know if this is the company line, but here's what he had to say.
	Well, look, I think it's shaping up to be a very deliberate act of terror.
	This is beyond dispute.
	The question becomes motive.
	Everybody seems to be searching for a motive.
	Martha, I would argue...
	No, no, let's just stop for a second.
	This is important because we're going to have to...
	I'm taking my face bag segment seriously, so I do have something to read later for you.
	There is a lot of confusion, and the meaning of the word terror is changing dramatically.
	If you kill a lot of people, you're a terrorist.
	That is the new meaning of the word terror.
	Please alert the affiliates and all dictionaries because that is not the definition of terror.
	Terror is, if you do this with a political or religious motive, I think it's specifically those two, that is when it's considered terrorism.
	It's okay if we want to change it, but let's just be careful what we're doing here.
	Everybody seems to be searching for a motive.
	Martha, I would argue most of the clues of the motive is right in front of us.
	First off, this individual parallels in many ways by age and by predisposition of being unstable.
	The shooter who attacked Congressman Scalise back in June.
	The Hodgkinson attack.
	Very similar age.
	They are both considered unstable, and so in many ways, after talking to both the psychological professional and some other folks in law enforcement, there's a lot of parallels there.
	Let's look at the target as well.
	It was a politically selected target.
	I think the target being selected, and let me say this is the perception based on available information, the perception was there's going to be a lot of pro-gun folks there, Trump supporters at this concert.
	So therefore, I believe the perception was by the shooter, by the individual who did this, Paddock, that this was a legitimate target of political expression.
	Martha, this may be something people don't like to understand, but the very reason that Hodgkinson did what he did, and I believe Paddock did what he did, is because the left has now encouraged the use of violence as an extension and use of political speech.
	And this is what we have to be very careful about, this slippery slope.
	The idea here that somehow violence can become part of someone expressing themselves.
	And I think that's the real danger here.
	Let me tell you something else out there.
	There was no violence perpetrated against Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton during the run-ups to this election.
	So this has become a feature of desensitization by the left.
	The Kathy Griffith beheading, fake beheading the president.
	Things like this, I think, are what's pushing a lot of folks to believe now that somehow violence is an acceptable piece of their...
	It's politically justified.
	We will see.
	I mean, it's an interesting theory.
	So, he's taking it one step further, and he's saying, yeah, the guy was crazy, but he was driven to crazy by the radical left.
	So, I don't know how former CIA this guy is, but this is echoed, this thinking, particularly, it's got to be a certain group.
	Look at him.
	It's obvious everybody knows this.
	If it was a hip-hop concert, I think we would have known that this was an obvious racially-based attack.
	And I should mention, since I'm on the same train, That the first concert that he supposedly scoped out was a hip-hop concert.
	No, Blink 182, it was not a hip-hop concert.
	No, okay, it wasn't pure hip-hop.
	But it was not a conservative, gun-toting, Republican concert.
	And it had rappers.
	And it had Lord, I know he's not a rapper, obviously.
	Yes, okay.
	Lord, he's not a rapper.
	No, Lord, he's not a rapper, for sure.
	No, he's not a rapper.
	Here's the bigoted view.
	I know it's a girl.
	Here's the bigoted view, though.
	We were talking at the break.
	I really believe that if there are certain politicians that the wake-up call didn't come when 26-year-olds were murdered.
	I can't imagine that this...
	Shooting of perhaps fellow Republicans, country music lovers, Democrats, Americans.
	I don't think that it's gonna change anything.
	Everyone wants to take their guns, which I think, my dad has always had a gun.
	I have a gun.
	But I think the things that people could get on board with are limited magazines, how much ammunition is- Yeah, yeah, yeah, blah, blah.
	So, oh, it was a country and western concert.
	So, of course, it's got to be Republicans.
	We saw the CBS woman.
	There are many different...
	In fact, is it time to do the face bag?
	I don't know if I should do that now or not.
	Well, if we're going to switch into the face bag, I want to...
	No, no, because I have a second clip to this.
	Second clip, which is important, this is the same former CIA gay guy, Lieutenant Cohen Colonel Tony Schaefer, and this is something that came up not once but twice right after the event.
	We haven't really heard much about it.
	The other part of this is, you know, that ISIS claimed...
	Right.
	Responsibility twice.
	And we talked to Catherine Herridge about this last night.
	He does not line up in any way to be the typical sort of recruit for ISIS, a 64-year-old man.
	But does that hold any water with you?
	Yeah, two points to that.
	First, they talked about the video.
	I think we're going to get a lot of clues off that video.
	The sheriff himself, during his statement today, used the word radicalization.
	We're checking for radicalization.
	So they've got to go through all that very thorough, obviously, the electronics.
	Second factor, to your point, the FBI dismissing terror within the first hours of the investigation was completely insane.
	The FBI has no way of knowing.
	I mean, for goodness sake, the special counsel has been investigating the president's team for a year looking at Russia collusion.
	How does the FBI come to a conclusion there's no terror link, especially now, Martha, in light of the $100,000 transfer to the Philippines?
	Yeah.
	I'm sure he wasn't sending that money for water buffalo preservation.
	Well, he may have been sending it to this girlfriend who was living there, and that's the other piece.
	We don't know if she's Filipino or not.
	We don't know what her background is.
	But she's been upgraded to being a person of interest, which means that she's of investigative importance to the whole thing.
	I mean, we understand that she is coming back.
	If she comes back voluntarily, that tells you a little something, doesn't it?
	It does.
	But again, we believe that her work with him, being co-located with him, she would know everything intimately, Martha, about what he was doing.
	You cannot get past having a house full of guns by someone who is not in the military, has no previous record of wanting to do things with guns.
	All of a sudden, he buys these.
	And we're talking about, I've been told, an estimate of a $100,000 worth of high-end weapons.
	Unbelievable.
	So it's clearly something there.
	Thank you, Matt.
	Thank you very much.
	Always good to talk to you.
	All right, there you go.
	So I think the ISIS connection cannot be dismissed.
	Hold on a second.
	Let's just straighten out a few things here.
	You had 47 guns.
	Well...
	If they were $1,000 apiece, which would be high-end, that would be $47,000.
	No, no, no.
	High-end is about $3,000 for these, with the stuff they had on them.
	Well, what did they have?
	I know he...
	Okay, well, let's just assume he had the $100,000.
	He sent her the $100,000.
	But you know what's interesting?
	It's interesting that the guns were probably worth about $100,000.
	And he sent $100,000.
	It's just an interesting coincidence, perhaps.
	He likes the round numbers.
	Well, he sent her $100,000 supposedly so she'd buy a house in the Philippines.
	And he coincidentally had some ticket for some unknown reason that they could give her to go away during this episode.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Well, go on with your thing, because I'm pretty much, I think we're going to come to the same conclusion, which I'm not, it's a conclusion I don't like.
	Well, there's just a couple quickies that I'll play then, just because I always like this showing up.
	Now, since she was his live-in girlfriend, Mary Lou Denley may well be able to tell investigators about Stephen Paddock's accumulation of weapons.
	An ATF spokesperson tells CNN tonight that he purchased 33 firearms, mostly rifles...
	I just love it when it pops up.
	Just love it.
	Well, I have the definitive 33, which came up on CBS. And curiously, and I should mention this to people, the exact same clip was played, slightly edited.
	They edited out the part where the girl...
	The representative of the firearms people said that the only time...
	Oh, here, play the clip first and I'll explain what happened.
	Gators are also going through Paddock's two homes and crime scene evidence from the hotel suite.
	They recovered a total of 47 firearms overall, 24 of them from his hotel room, some seen here in these pictures.
	Jill Snyder of the ATF told CBS's Nora O'Donnell that Paddock had been stockpiling weapons for years.
	How many firearms were purchased in the last year?
	He purchased 33 firearms, majority of them rifles.
	That didn't set off a red flag anywhere in the ATF? We wouldn't get notified of the purchases of the rifles.
	We would only get notified if there was a multiple sale, which would be two or more handguns in an individual purchase.
	Police body cam footage from the moments during the attack show the firepower the officers faced and how they tried to help civilians.
	Get out of here!
	There's gunshots coming from over there!
	The gunfire continued for more than nine minutes.
	SWAT police stormed Paddock Suite on the Mandalay Bay's 32nd floor.
	Breach, breach, breach.
	About an hour after the shooting.
	I need to stop there for a moment.
	This is another hole that cannot be explained that is troubling.
	And we have a lot of audio, video evidence, but it's all about the audio in this case.
	They really don't have anything to tell us, or they don't have stuff they want to tell us, so they give us timelines and when stuff happens.
	The timelines are very flawed.
	By the way, I think Las Vegas and their response to this is just unbelievably professional.
	Really, really good information.
	Yeah, they were spiking the ball a lot over it.
	That's okay.
	I mean, everyone just...
	Hey, let's say something nice instead of these reports with a damn gunfire the whole time.
	This is traumatizing to people.
	It's not a good idea.
	But when did he shoot himself?
	And why is that...
	Because it was a Magnum.
	At least the gun that's lying next to him that is, you know, from the leaked photos, which we don't know how that happened...
	That would have been recorded somewhere.
	And the official explanation is, well, you know, we were setting off explosives, so maybe it happened at exactly the same moment.
	But they have no audible evidence of that.
	They talk about this, so it's not as though they're trying to cover anything up.
	But they don't have it.
	No, they talk about it.
	They say, hey, we don't know how he shot himself.
	We don't know when he shot himself.
	I know.
	That's troubling.
	A.357 Magnum makes a big noise.
	It sounds like a cannon.
	Yes, it's a cannon-like noise, and it would have been someone...
	That taxi driver, we've seen the 18-minute video.
	It would have been somewhere...
	It's nowhere.
	There's no gun.
	I hear what I think are different sounding weapons, but yeah, we've all seen the fourth floor and the 32nd floor.
	I don't think we have to rehash all of that, but it's to be noted that that is not there.
	It could have happened before, after, in many different ways.
	And found Paddock dead of an apparent gunshot wound.
	Paddock was a regular at the gun shop near his home in Mesquite, Nevada.
	He bought five guns here.
	This is a bolt-action rifle.
	Including a bolt-action rifle three days before the shooting, says General Manager Christopher Sullivan.
	Over coffee, I was having a moment in myself thinking that I may have very well been the last person to shake hands with that man.
	I'm sorry, there's one more clip I forgot.
	Before you get to that, I want to explain the detail in here that I need to discuss.
	Um...
	By the way, why is he buying a bolt-action old carbine if he's going to do this?
	But that's another question that seems kind of weird.
	This was the exact same report they used on PBS, the CBS report.
	And I'm noticing that PBS and CIABS is, they're doing a lot of this.
	I mean, the Charlie Rose this week, it's all clips from CBS. And this is the CBN. They took that same exact Nora O'Donnell clip, but they ticked off the end of it, where the woman Jill from the ATF says, well, it's only when you buy a number of handguns at the same time that it sets off a red flag.
	They cut that out.
	Well, they share Charlie, so it's not that surprising.
	Well, they do share Charlie.
	They do share Charlie.
	But now they're sharing Nora, apparently.
	But I found that very peculiar that they had that in there.
	The final clip I think is important.
	This certainly comes through to the headlines.
	The headlines such as, White American men are a bigger domestic terrorist threat than Muslim foreigners.
	White privilege of the lone wolf shooters.
	A lot of hate against old white men.
	This is forensic psychiatrist Dr.
	Michael Welner, Wiener, I don't remember.
	And he gives us his version of the mental state of the apparent shooter.
	Well, if you want to understand the killer, the most important place to start is with the victims.
	And what we can immediately see is that he had no relationship to the killers.
	A workplace mass shooter knows his victims.
	Hold on a second.
	He had no relationship to the killers?
	Did you catch that?
	The killed, yeah.
	It's funny he says that.
	It's interesting he says that.
	Relationship to the killers.
	Let me roll that all the way back.
	Well, if you want to understand the killer, the most important place to start is with the victims.
	And what we can immediately see is that he had no relationship to the killers.
	A workplace mass shooter knows his victims.
	And they want to see...
	By the way, he was a mail carrier, I'm just saying.
	That could be brought in later as he went postal.
	Remember that when guys used to go postal?
	Yeah, that's another meme that came and went.
	It's gone.
	Maybe they're bringing it back.
	Victims.
	And they want to see the victim.
	And they want to destroy, annihilate the workplace.
	That's another key point.
	The family mass shooter knows the family, wants to annihilate the family.
	The criminal enterprise wants to kill the gang.
	So it's a stranger mass homicide.
	And a stranger mass homicide happens for one of two reasons.
	Either a person acting for a cause, or a person acting because he wants to transcend notoriety and kill as many people as possible, like a James Holmes.
	However...
	James Holmes, who was the Aurora shooter.
	And you worked on that case.
	Yes.
	Here's the thing.
	Shooting for notoriety's sake and nothing more is a young man's crime.
	And this is a 64-year-old with no dramatic mental illness, no major decline, someone who's intact.
	I think if we want to understand what's behind the crime, we should look at James Hodgkinson.
	Scalise because that crime itself was intended to be a spectacle and and of much bigger scope.
	Imagine this.
	What he intended to do, Hodgkinson, was not only kill all of those lawmakers, Republicans, but in doing so, we would have had to have special elections to replace all of them And if it weren't for the security people who intercepted him, you had all kinds of congressmen and lawmakers in a dugout, defenseless, who would have been mowed down.
	My point is, a spectacle is either designed to cause some derivative impact or to instigate some cause discussion.
	So the point is, he's an older man.
	There's no...
	Definable mental history or decline, and yet it happens now.
	Now, if there is a cause, there will be a manifesto, there will be a communication with the television or other kind of media or social media.
	It will be out there.
	If there's nothing to necessarily tie him to a cause, then instigating is enough.
	And that's exactly what the parallel is with another organization.
	Older man's crime, Hodgkinson, spectacle crime, just like the person who flew a plane into the IRS. People who commit crimes for notoriety alone are young, and he's not.
	What about genetics?
	Because his dad was on the FBI and was one of those, was a bank robber.
	Well, the genetics of psychopathy are, you know, of course, 50% we inherit roughly, but in terms of the genetics of psychopathy, they may be as important as environment.
	Nice.
	Of which we know pretty much nothing about his environment.
	There's just one other thing that was an interesting little tidbit.
	A number of news organizations had this young 21-year-old who was in Vegas celebrating her 21st birthday, was at the concert but left a little bit before the shooting took place.
	And, I mean, were you thinking, oh my gosh, this woman told us that before we left?
	Yeah, I thought it had a positive correlation to it.
	Like, obviously, she was telling us that either to tell us to warn us or to tell us that we were all going to die, and she was part of it.
	Okay, so they want the description of this woman.
	Describe to me what this woman looked like.
	Her and her boyfriend were both Hispanic.
	They were probably about shorter five-footers, probably about 5'5", 5'6".
	They just looked like everyday people.
	Just...
	Can you tell us anything more about them?
	What they look like?
	Why were they escorted out?
	Were they escorted out because you were feeling uncomfortable about what they said?
	Yes, because she had been messing with the lady in front of her and telling her that she was going to die.
	That we're all going to die.
	So they escorted her out to make her stop messing around with all the other people in front of them, but none of us knew that it was going to be serious.
	No, I don't know.
	That's interesting.
	Yeah, I heard this one too.
	That's a very peculiar...
	Clip.
	Yeah.
	I didn't get it.
	I didn't get it.
	And I don't know what to make of it.
	And also, I didn't pull any clips from the Brothers interview because you can watch that whole thing and go, oh man, this guy is really off the wall.
	But tell me who he sounds like here.
	No religious affiliation, no political affiliation.
	No, he just hung out or shocked, horrified.
	Who is that?
	Who does that sound like?
	Sounds like Lawrence O'Donnell.
	Louis C.K.? Milieu.
	Interesting.
	Interesting.
	Milieu.
	So his brother was in the milieu.
	Listen again.
	No religious affiliation, no political affiliation.
	Actually, he sounds a little bit like Kramer from CNBC. That's who he sounds like.
	Listen.
	No religious affiliation, no political affiliation.
	I gotta tell you, we should, we should, those guys rock it to the moon!
	Maybe he's talking like Kramer.
	That makes more sense than Louis C. By the way, for people who are listening to this for the first time, we've noticed a lot of this milieu of how people speak.
	And we think that's a pretty big giveaway for the environment that they're in.
	So when you hear this and you detect it, and keep your ears open for this, I think it's not insignificant.
	Jim Cramer from CNBC, the stock guy, who has a stock show in the evening, and maybe this guy is in his milieu by watching him because apparently they're all rich.
	I don't think you're going to pick it up from watching.
	You've got to be in the milieu, and it takes a long time to develop the cadence.
	This was what we noticed with the Hillary people.
	They all had this certain sound.
	They all had this Susan Rice kind of staccato, weird...
	It's a very strange voice, and there's numerous people that sound like that.
	They all sound kind of like robots.
	Just like Andrew Horowitz sounds like Jamie Dimon from JPMorgan Chase.
	He does.
	I mean, he's in the milieu of that industry.
	Exactly.
	Which is different from this.
	No religious affiliation, no political affiliation.
	I mean, you could play that for someone, say, Kramer, Jim Kramer.
	Lawrence O'Donnell has that same voice.
	Hmm, okay.
	Okay.
	Where it cracks.
	It purposely cracks.
	All right, John.
	So what do you think?
	What do you think about all this?
	Well, I think it stems...
	I'm going to go back, and then you can follow up with some stuff, but I'm going to go back to where I think this stems from.
	I think that none of this...
	I believe, kind of like the CIA guy does, that this was a reaction that...
	It was kind of given away by this Haley Getman gold woman that was shoved under the rug as fast as it could happen.
	This is this woman on Facebook who was a vice president at CBS. You mentioned her earlier.
	And she came out with just a casual comment that, and I'll read it, If they wouldn't do anything when children were murdered, I have no hope that the repugns, which is a funny word, repugns, repugns.
	That's a big face bag term, by the way.
	Is it?
	Yeah.
	I will ever do the right thing.
	I'm actually not even sympathetic because country music fans often are Republican gun toters.
	I don't think that this kind of thinking came about in a vacuum.
	Hold on.
	I don't think it's one off.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	When Adam needs to make an example of some typical slaves.
	I think it's time for me to do it.
	He just reads the comments on their Facebook page.
	Gonna read Facebook.
	All right, you ready?
	Go.
	This is the 66-year-old from California now living in Austin, Texas.
	I know who she is.
	I have learned today that two people, update, make that three, who are friends slash colleagues of mine have died in the Las Vegas shooting.
	I do not know those who are dead.
	I don't need your condolences, prayers, or wishes.
	I am sad for my friends who have lost friends, but I don't know who are lost personally.
	I'm angry, deeply angry.
	My nation has been hijacked by heartless, soulless lunatics.
	You do not represent me or anyone I know, love and respect.
	You can take our health care, a woman's right over how her own body, the value of our votes through gerrymandering, our education with idiots like Betsy DeVos at the helm, and our very lives via tweeting, the tweeting orange maniac and his dotered associates like Kim and Vlad.
	But you will never be my voice or my representatives.
	You do not value life.
	Or you would fight to control the gun lobby harder than you fight to invade my body and my choice.
	You would shut up about taking a knee at a fucking football game where much of the crowd has a sweaty flag bandana on their head or in their pockets and plasters their July 4th and Labor Day tables with every variation of the commercial bastardization of our flag.
	All so we can eat our potato salad and wipe our brows.
	You would pay attention to the drug epidemic in our country, not by imprisoning citizens of color for drug offenses, but by treating all addicts with the care you are evidencing with concern for the opioid epidemic, a much whiter shade of drug problem.
	You would roll back EPA protection so you can pocket more profits while letting American citizens of Latino descent suffer and die in Puerto Rico.
	You would not ignore the very real and now present threat of global warming, and you would not look upon the bodies of dead Americans killed largely by sick, white, American, homegrown terrorist men with legal firearms and weapons with rounds only intended to kill most people in the shortest amount of time and shrug the worship at the altar of your Second Amendment rights.
	You are all sick SOBs.
	You do not represent me.
	I hate you all from the bottom of my fighting heart.
	You suck.
	You are liars.
	You are selfish.
	You lack any morality.
	You all roast in hell, and I wish you a speedy journey to get there!
	I don't know if you have to quite amp it that much, because it was pretty bad to begin with.
	I know who that is, too.
	Interesting.
	No, it's not.
	It's not that person.
	No, it's not.
	It's someone who knows her for sure.
	Milieu.
	Milieu.
	Yes, Milieu.
	Now, here's what happened the way I see it.
	This kind of hate, and it's propagated by Hollywood to an extreme.
	Go read Rob Reiner's tweets.
	The guy is horrible.
	This woman, Haley, when she did this thing, was just taking off as fast as they could while it was racking up likes.
	And this other woman, Erin Fagan Silber, who answered her...
	And I don't know who she is, but she must have been getting some flack.
	She says, yeah, I was thinking this since it directly hits the country music population, but maybe they do something now.
	But after Sandy Hook, Republicans reacted by wanting to arm teachers.
	And she goes on to the deep end.
	Now, the way I'm looking at this Haley woman is she is not in a vacuum.
	She is a senior vice president at CBS. She doesn't just say this stuff on Facebook.
	This is what she talks about.
	And it was so cavalier on Facebook that you have to assume that the milieu, again, is so toxic and so poisonous, and it creeps around.
	Scott Adams did one of his little periscope things and he found out he had to I couldn't find this clip, but he listened to somebody on CNN discussing this as a as kind of a milieu problem, even though he didn't do the this kind of hate that's been developing this hatred toward Republicans.
	And he said the guy finished on.
	I think this is why I can't get the clip.
	He says the guy finished up his discussion by blaming CNN.
	And the networks, they're the guys who promote this stuff.
	And so so so to me, this character was no different than the guy.
	And they always like to mention the Scalise shooting in that maniac.
	But I think he's more parallel to the guy who came storming into the pizza parlor with his AR-15 to save the children.
	Yes.
	He thinks he's doing a favor.
	He was going to escape from this.
	I think he was expecting to escape and to cheers and adulation.
	I agree.
	I totally agree.
	This is a creation of the media.
	And the minute we see the Hollywood...
	And Hollywood.
	Hollywood's going to come out, they're going to do another gun video, most of whom are pretty much complicit by promoting violence in movies.
	It's all paid for.
	The military pays for it.
	Gun manufacturers, I think it was Beretta...
	Paid...
	I forget which production it was.
	$250,000 for their new handgun to be used.
	The Glock was placed in Bruce Willis.
	What is it?
	What's that?
	The Die thing?
	The Die Hard series.
	Die Hard series.
	So, you know, everyone's taken...
	Everyone's complicit.
	It's a holier-than-thou crap.
	All right, so what do you think happened?
	And I'd love to tell you...
	We're probably going to be very similar in...
	Well, I think something happened last year when Trump was winning the election or was nominated.
	That's when the guy started really buying his guns.
	And then after he won the election, I think this guy...
	And the thing that...
	That's noteworthy is they never talk about party affiliation.
	There's only been one piece written on it, and I think he's a Democrat.
	And I think that if he was a Republican, registered Republican anywhere, they would have reported it.
	But it's one of those things, like you pointed out recently, where they were talking about somebody, but they never mentioned it was a Democrat.
	They kept it out.
	Yeah, Anthony Weiner, he said.
	Yeah, the Anthony Weiner thing.
	Former Democrat congressman.
	Never mentioned.
	No, they just say former congressman all of a sudden.
	Where's the Democrat part?
	Because if it's a Republican, especially if it's a gay Republican, it's all, oh, the gay Republican, oh, and he voted against this and that.
	That shows, you know, that he's a hypocrite.
	The media has created this guy, literally, by feeding him poison, And this is the result.
	And he saw the country-western thing.
	That's the one he was going to shoot at.
	It was like he was going to be a high-end...
	You know, it was doable.
	And he had the bump stock.
	He knew what he was doing enough so that he could just pummel this people crowded, 20,000 people crowded shoulder to shoulder.
	Yeah, you can...
	I've read some people say, oh, you can't kill that many people.
	Yes, you can.
	If they're shoulder to shoulder and they don't know they're being shot...
	Essentially, this is a full...
	Just what Scott Adams said about that.
	CNN is part of the problem.
	CNN and all the tweets about let's kill Trump.
	There were way too many of those.
	We've documented them in the newsletter.
	And people like Rob Reiner, a sick pervert when it comes to Trump.
	He just rants on him and he's got his family doing the same thing.
	Old Carl Reiner taking a knee.
	I mean, this whole thing is completely out of control and it's not going to get any better because we've seen the Republicans are now the enemy, the repugs.
	The repugs, yes.
	By the way, I find it interesting that a 66-year-old woman is complaining about the government invading her body.
	She's nuts.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	People have been made nuts by the media.
	Well, that's why we've been doing this show for 10 years.
	Coming up, October 26th.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, that's all I can conclude, and I've got some other backup clips.
	You could take the boy out of mainstream, but you can't take mainstream out of the boy.
	It's just impossible.
	I have a different conclusion, and I don't say anything until I'm done.
	I'm just looking at what fits this guy's profile and the secret life, the high-end accumulation of weapons, high-end weapons, the stacks of ammo, the tannerite ammonium nitrate, I think it is, in his car.
	Then Tannerite, I've shot at Tannerite before, just a little baggie will explode upon impact.
	It's very cool, but if you have, you know, a 50-gallon tub or whatever the hell the guy had, or 5-gallon, then, you know, that could produce quite a little explosion with some ammonium nitrate next to it.
	I believe that was not for blowing up.
	I believe, and the word in Vegas, is that he was a weapons dealer.
	And there's a couple of great ways to whitewash your money if you're a weapons dealer.
	Real estate is a way, but gambling is number one way.
	This is why in the Netherlands you can go to the casino, but it's government controlled.
	You have to give your...
	You have to be identified so that you can't whitewash money.
	That just fits his profile as an arms dealer.
	This was a showcase, and it's typical.
	You've got a nice big suite, and you've got the showcase, and here's everything.
	Yeah, I'm not going to argue with this.
	Can I just finish?
	I just want to mention one thing.
	Was it a suite or two rooms?
	They never expected.
	It was a two-room suite, from my understanding.
	So, a two-bedroom suite.
	Which is how they also have two sides, because it was on the corner.
	One side on the, whatever, east or west.
	Now, what is possible that happened...
	This is why I played the ISIS clip.
	I'm just going to put this out as a different theory to yours.
	What is possible that happened is that he was selling these guns.
	He had everything up there, everything neatly stacked.
	Look, I've got all the ammo you want down the car.
	I've got more ammo.
	I've got the blow-up stuff you wanted.
	Not really curious why you want it.
	That's all great.
	Please come on up and we'll do this deal.
	Now, if we take the ISIS angle, who claimed the attack twice, they don't claim every attack, not every single one.
	They claimed this one.
	They didn't claim the guy who shot the senator.
	representatives, whatever they are, who thought, you know what, we could buy this stuff from him and then cause an event, or we could kill the guy, cause the event and not be out any cash and get out.
	And you know, then what happens?
	What happens now?
	There's a theory, I think on 4chan.
	There's always something on 4chan that says that this was a gun-running operation like Fast and Furious, maybe.
	But I agree with you.
	The FBI looked pretty demure because weapons dealing would, I think, be with ATF, but it would also be their wheelhouse.
	So that's what I'm looking at because that's the profile.
	He does not fit...
	Completely the description of the crazy white guy, a Democrat who hates Republicans.
	There's no face bag posts.
	There's none of this.
	So it's very different from your typical Trump face bag hate.
	That, I think, is a definite possibility.
	And I'm pretty sure the drug running thing is bogus.
	That would also explain why there was no suicide gunshot recorded anywhere.
	That's the angle that I'm looking at.
	And whether it was convenient...
	Maybe the deal was supposed to go down previously in the Ogden Hotel and they couldn't make it, or maybe the buyers didn't like the people that they would kill.
	I don't know.
	Or not.
	That part, I don't know.
	But this guy, to me, weapons dealer.
	I like the weapons dealer theory, except that, and I like my theory better, but I like the weapons dealer theory because it does...
	Fit a lot of what happened, including being at the casino where you could actually showcase the weapons that you're going to sell.
	And get some hookers to celebrate the deal.
	There's a lot of hookers there, and you're down whitewashing money, which you can do easily in a casino.
	And he apparently went through $10,000 at a pop here and there.
	The problem I have with it is, one, there would have been some video, Paul video from the casino of these guys going in and out of that room.
	Well, we have not seen any video yet.
	And Tina keeps saying, where's the video?
	Everything in Vegas is videoed.
	And, oh, I'm sorry, one more thing.
	That would also explain the cameras.
	Because if you're going to kill yourself, I need to know when they're coming so I can stand in front of the door and get killed.
	And you place one on the food cart?
	I thought that was creative.
	That's to see when your buyers are coming and to see if anything else is happening.
	That's what that is for.
	In my theory, it fits perfectly.
	Not with a guy who wants to cause mass murder, go out blazing.
	I agree with that.
	And also, the curious thing that was reported once...
	By the sheriff, which I have a clip of, but there's no reason...
	Just as an addition.
	And now this is tying the ISIS side.
	The ISIS side is very interesting.
	I haven't fleshed it out long enough or deep enough.
	But the owners of the MGM Grand, you know, deep ties to the Obamas, but also donate a lot of money to CARE, the Council for American Islamic Relations, to the Southern Poverty Law Center...
	They're really, really big Democrats, obviously with support for care, which I don't like.
	I don't like care.
	They definitely were funding terrorism at one point.
	That's proven.
	That's historic record.
	So there could be a connection there, but I'm careful not to make that right now.
	And Soros pulled out his investments in MGM Resorts in March of this year.
	Just coincidental, but just thought I'd mention it.
	Hmm.
	Anyway, the...
	Yeah, it makes...
	And the door...
	Anyway, what I was going to say is that the sheriff reported that when the security guard was roaming around...
	Now, the guy should have been dead by then.
	This becomes part of the timeline issues that I have.
	The security guy, which...
	You don't know, but he was shot in the thigh because he was going by the door, and supposedly what drew his attention to that room, because this was long after the shooting ceased, it only went off for 9 to 10 minutes, the door was ajar.
	Oh.
	Yes.
	No, I did.
	Yeah, I did hear that.
	Okay.
	So the door was ajar and I guess he, I don't know, knocked on or something and they shot him or somebody shot him in the thigh.
	And then the police came up shortly thereafter and then there was like 200 rounds exchanged.
	And then the guy was, they went in there and the guy was dead after they blew open the door, which it doesn't make any sense if it was ajar.
	Why don't you just kick it in?
	But they blew it.
	And I suppose it was barricaded, but if you see the pictures, it doesn't have any indication of that.
	They blew it.
	And then the guy was there dead.
	Where are these arms dealers?
	And who shot the 200 rounds at?
	I think they were long gone.
	Well, then the guy who shot, the leftover guy who should have been dead by then, who shot the 200 rounds?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, no, the guy should have been.
	I agree.
	The guy should have been gone by then.
	The guy would have been killed by them.
	But if that's true, then who shot the 200 rounds?
	I really don't know.
	I really don't know.
	There's a lot of, like, missing information.
	Are they just reporting poorly?
	Maybe there was never a 200-round shot, even though they show some cams of 200-round shot, and the sheriff claims there were 200 rounds shot, and he's lucky that the security guy didn't get shot again, he says.
	And I like the arms theory.
	And I'm not buying the ISIS thing.
	I mean, the first time that showed up was on the DEBCA files.
	And they deconstructed the phony baloney name they gave him, saying it's not a name anyone would use because it doesn't even make any sense.
	And so the ISIS story, and yes, you're right, but who's responsible for who in ISA? Was it ISA PR? I mean, who exactly said that he was an ISA guy?
	And I'm not buying that at all.
	What are you saying?
	What is ISA? I'm sorry, ISA. I know what I'm saying.
	ISA. ISIS. And Debka Files, the one who had the ISA, and he had his ISA name.
	Well, there were two claims by the ISIS Press Bureau that was one of their warriors.
	Yeah, I'm not completely...
	I mean, that one's just too low.
	I liked that one at the beginning.
	I separated it very clearly.
	I said, I'm not sure about this.
	Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's not.
	But I do not think this guy was the shooter.
	I think he was the dealer.
	And it makes so much sense.
	They've got tons of money, houses, $100,000 for the guns.
	He sends $100,000 overseas.
	There's a lot of coincidences there.
	It has the earmarks of an arms dealer.
	Yeah, it does.
	Low-end.
	Yeah, of course it's low-end.
	I know a high-end arms dealer.
	But they have the same kind of secretive life.
	No one really knows about them, what they do.
	And all of a sudden, he's there, and then he's there in a different country and doing stuff.
	Also, with his background as an IRS guy, he could have very easily run into different people that might become customers in the future.
	Yeah, the combo of IRS and former mailman is toxic, my friends.
	Sorry, Armando.
	I'm just kidding.
	Okay.
	But because it was a country and western thing and we saw the kind of hate from this Haley woman and the other ones, the one you read, and some of these other notes, and the continuous hate that is being promoted by Hollywood and the news media and the news networks...
	That kind of thing I think could drive somebody like the Pizzagate guy who was driven that way by right-wing media.
	I think it could drive somebody into just Figuring they're doing the world a favor by shooting up all these damn Republicans.
	Repugs.
	Well, this hit...
	I'll just...
	Finally, I'll say this hit kind of close to home for me.
	A very good friend of mine and her niece, who I know when she was born...
	They never miss a Jason Aldean concert.
	Especially not on a weekend in Vegas.
	It was by coincidence they were not there.
	When I heard this and it was Jason Aldean, my heart sunk.
	It's like, holy crap.
	So, who knows what would have happened.
	They weren't there.
	But that, you know, again, this is much more traumatizing than I think people are willing to let on.
	And right now, to follow up on your point, the mainstream media needs to cut the shit out.
	And they need to stop the trauma.
	They really do.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and I would say Hollywood needs to cut this crap out, too.
	And these tweet guys and people on Twitter that just call for the death of the president.
	Yeah.
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	I don't have the It's a Scam.
	You'll have to do that one live.
	I can do it live, and then you can go from there.
	Ready?
	Yep.
	It's a scam!
	Shut up, slave!
	You've got karma.
	Now we go to, whoops, Kelly and John Rutter in Coventry, Connecticut.
	And they sent a check-in and wrote a note, which I have somewhere.
	Oh, great.
	There it is.
	Um...
	Dear John and Adam, my husband and I have been listening since the beginning and have yet to make a donation, hence the $500.
	Sorry about that, and I hope this helps.
	Thank you for all the time and energy you put into your show.
	May I make a suggestion for another podcast to listen to The Truth For Life with Alice and Alistair Begg?
	Take care.
	Please, no karma.
	No karma, but how about a dedouching, since it's the first time?
	That's not a bad idea.
	Alright.
	You've been dedouched.
	We have another dedouching coming up.
	Surely.
	Sir Meisner in Bellevue, Washington.
	$350.
	First, I love you both.
	An apology for my...
	Last donation, I was quite a bit more than three sheets to the wind and was attempting to hit someone in the mouth when I sent it in.
	An excursion that turned out to be successful, at least as they're now a semi-frequent listener of the show.
	In my drunken attempt at hitting them in the mouth, I decided I needed to donate again, as has been a little while since my last contribution, the whole abuse of sound clips, as Adam called it.
	In my head seemed to be like it went together well.
	Abusive sound.
	I don't know what he's talking about.
	And it would be funny.
	So now we know it wasn't an awesome as my drunken self envisioned it would go.
	Sorry, guys.
	With the media maniacal, he sounds like he's drunk now.
	But the media's maniacal focus on the event that transpired in Vegas this week and the fallout afterwards, political agendas of gun control and conspiracy theories everywhere.
	I couldn't wait for today's show so I can make some real straight line analysis from you both.
	Get some.
	I, once again, I sound like Pelosi here.
	I once again made me realize the value for the show brings and puts me here sending in my value for value.
	Donation yet again, minus the Circus Act sound clips request, of course.
	Thank you again for all you do.
	To request first a douchebag, call out to Shane H. Of Covington, Washington?
	Douchebag!
	He listens to the show enough now that he needs to pony up some dough.
	Second, I can't get away from my sound clip addiction completely.
	How about three of Adam's favorites?
	I'll just do three that we haven't played in a while.
	How about that?
	Okay.
	I think that sounds good.
	Don't look over here!
	Nothing to see here!
	Ooh, look at that!
	Hello, Kendall.
	This is the pod calling.
	The distraction of the week on the agenda over there.
	Jenny Terry comes in from Harrodsburg, Kentucky.
	$333.
	I have a note from her.
	Let's see if she's got...
	Oh, yeah, she does want a de-douching little girl.
	Boom shakalaka.
	Little girl, yay, and overall karma.
	So dedouching little girl, shakalaka and yay.
	She says, please forgive me as this is my first donation to the best podcast in the universe.
	$333.33.
	My old millennial son hit me in the mouth just after the November election, and we have both been avid listeners ever since.
	My son leans toward Dimension B, and I am firmly planted in Dimension A.
	The No Agenda show has given us much to discuss and has also shown us both how to attempt to straddle the two.
	For that, I am ever grateful.
	Oh, good.
	The third 3333 amount is in honor of my son's 33rd birthday.
	I believe he's on the list on October 8th.
	His name is Philip Traver.
	It's pronounced Traver, Traver, Traver, Traver, and is the best son in the universe.
	I would like this donation to be credited to start him on his journey to knighthood.
	Ginny rhymes with Minnie, Terry.
	All right.
	And a de-douching as well, and a karma?
	She says, if it's not too late, I'd like to request a de-douching, little girl, boom shakalaka, little girl yay, and an overall karma.
	All right.
	You've been de-douched.
	Boom shakalaka.
	Boom shakalaka!
	Yay!
	You've got karma.
	Onward to $333 from Sir Luke, the Baron of London in London, UK. Upon randomly checking my no-agenda donation accounting, I discovered that I had donated 32 times over the $50 mark to you guys.
	So in honor of my 33rd donation, here's $333.33.
	Even though it's only $330 according to the spreadsheet.
	I have some advice for all the douchebags out there.
	Just donate.
	Do it once and it'll feel so great you'll just have to keep doing it.
	By the way, we've discussed this on the show.
	People who donate to shows like this or anything for that matter, it changes the body chemistry and it does make you feel better.
	It actually changes chemicals in your brain.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Strange that I've donated more since losing my job in 2014 and even managed to become the Baron of London.
	Now I'm just getting my running cycling events.
	I'm just getting by running cycling events.
	Sorry John, I know you hate cyclists.
	And yes, the cyclists at my events are the ones you hate.
	We call them mammals or middle-aged men in Lycra.
	That's me at my spin class.
	I'm sorry you said that.
	I'd like to request a karma for all the No Agenda producers, my recently deceased buddy Henry, and for this weekend event, keep doing what you guys do, Sir Luke, the Baron of London.
	Does he not need a jobs karma, considering where he's at?
	I think we should give him some of the likes of it.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	And then we jump over to Gary Zachman, Sir Gary of Moongate in Las Vegas, actually.
	And he...
	Just hold on one second.
	This donation is from Sir Gary of Moongate.
	I was working Sunday night at the Luxor.
	After 16 hours at work, some of this overtime has to go to the show.
	I'll send an email when I can get my thoughts together.
	Peace.
	Thank you very much.
	Gary Zachman, Sir Gary of Moongate.
	Outstanding.
	Thank you.
	And I wanted to say, thank you all so much for all the different emails, clips, links you've sent.
	I just have no time to respond to everybody other than, thanks, so don't take it personally.
	And never stop doing that.
	Always send me stuff.
	Always think, yes, I might be the first.
	You might be the first to send it to me.
	When you think, ah, someone sent it to them, you're likely wrong, strangely enough.
	Well, at least half the time.
	Mark Beecham in Nairobi, Kenya.
	That's cool.
	Note sent from Supes at Supes.com.
	Did you get a note from him?
	I don't usually dox people on the show, but let me take a look.
	Sorry about that.
	That's okay.
	We have good listeners, so nobody's going to bother you.
	I'm sorry.
	I hadn't opened my email program yet.
	That's kind of...
	And I don't have the handy squirrel mail that just requires a browser.
	Squirrel mail nails it!
	All hail to the squirrel mail!
	Not for releasing on this show.
	It says at the beginning.
	Here it is.
	Here's a note for show further down.
	Guys, an acknowledgement of the incredible value you continue to offer me and the wider NA community, please find my humble contribution.
	I'd like to say that the last show in particular, the last few shows have had me rolling on the floor laughing, especially at JCD and his quips.
	Adam, dropping the mic was also a highlight, having done this myself a few times in the past.
	I would like to call out...
	Here we go.
	I would like to call out Michael Robinson of North Melbourne, Australia for a...
	Douchebag!
	For a de-douching.
	I apologize.
	You've been de-douched.
	Whoops.
	Anyway, so he's deduced, so that didn't count.
	Then congratulate him on no longer being a see you next Tuesday.
	Right on.
	After right what?
	Right on?
	Did you say right on?
	I said right on.
	After hitting him in the mouth continually for a number of years, he's now hooked and recently donated.
	While he continues in his See You Next Tuesday ways, in many other aspects of his life, he at least has now contributed to the No Agenda show value-for-value model, as he should be.
	Could I please request the following jingles?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Goat scream.
	That is the service goat.
	Service goat scream.
	Don't eat me, Hillary, and two to the head.
	And the karma, I'm presuming?
	I would hope.
	Don't eat me, Hillary Clinton!
	73's V... Karma.
	73's VK3XB or 524XB. Back at you, Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie.
	Mike 5343 Mike.
	November Mike.
	No, what was it?
	November 5343 Mike.
	There you go.
	That's something different.
	Whatever.
	Chris Richardson, $250.
	Dealer's choice for jingles.
	Keep up the good work is all he's got to say.
	Okay.
	I wasn't ready for that one.
	Dealer's choice.
	Just push a button.
	Okay.
	Fact check false.
	Bullshit.
	That's actually a good combination.
	Amen.
	That's a good combination.
	We should remember that.
	What was it again?
	Fact check, false, something bullshit.
	Yeah, you're right.
	It's a good combo.
	They're right under each other, too, on the board.
	How about that?
	Well...
	Yes, we want to thank all these folks for contributing and producing show 670.
	Yeah, we sure do.
	Thank you very much.
	And we'll be thanking more people later on who came in at $50 and above.
	This is how it works.
	I heard The Intercept is also going value for value.
	The Intercept podcast?
	They have a podcast?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Scahill.
	Scahill's podcast.
	So they can't get any advertisers.
	Duh!
	Especially for what they're doing.
	Yeah.
	It can't be associated with that.
	And I think they're asking for $280 a month.
	What?
	Yeah.
	I haven't looked into it, so I'm not sure.
	But I do know that they're going all value for value, please don't.
	The donation model.
	I don't think they're specifically using value for value or understand that per se.
	The Curry-Devorak Consulting Group is available if you're interested.
	Yeah, they need help already.
	We have another show coming up on Sunday.
	I'm sure there'll be a lot of deconstruction and just trying to keep your mental health intact.
	That is what we try to do.
	Anything else we've got to say?
	No, no.
	Just remember us for that show, please.
	Dvorak.org slash NA So now you've got a couple of theories.
	You can use them.
	Go out there.
	Propagate our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out.
	We hit people in the mouth.
	Back trick false.
	False.
	Bullshit.
	Shut up.
	Shut up, slave.
	Yeah, it works nicely there, too.
	Yeah, it does.
	I do it all live!
	Just so you know.
	Yeah, he does.
	He does this on the fly.
	Hey, let's put the brakes on it for a second.
	Stuff is going on in the UK's Gitmo Nation GMT that is very troubling.
	This is the Home Secretary, which is...
	What is that?
	Secretary of the Interior...
	No, it'd be the Home Secretary, I think, is the...
	Oh, like Homeland Security, kind of?
	I think it'd be more like the State Department.
	Okay, State Department.
	Hmm.
	No, no, because Boar's...
	No.
	It doesn't matter.
	Someone will tell me.
	The Home Secretary...
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	The Home Secretary...
	She's in charge of cyber.
	Her name is Amber Rudd, and here she is talking about changing the laws yet again.
	Could be the Department of the Interior.
	That's what I said initially, the interior.
	Oh.
	Here she is about changing the laws again to combat extremism online.
	If we're going to keep people safe, we need to disrupt plots in the early stages.
	Many such plots will include some element of online radicalisation.
	Extremists and terrorist material can still be published online.
	And it is then too easily accessible on some devices within seconds.
	Progress has been made...
	But this has got to stop.
	Today I am announcing that we are tightening our laws for individuals looking at this type of material online.
	We will change the law so that people who repeatedly view terrorist content online could face up to 15 years in prison.
	This will close an important gap in legislation.
	At present, the existing offence applies only if you have downloaded or stored such material, not if you're repeatedly viewing or streaming it online.
	If someone publishes information about our police or armed forces for the purpose of preparing an act of terrorism, then they could face up to 15 years in prison.
	My job isn't just to protect the public.
	It's also to protect those who put their lives on the line for us.
	There you go.
	You're watching the wrong stuff, citizen.
	This is bad.
	Yeah, I guess.
	You guess?
	Yeah.
	If you're watching anything deemed quote-unquote extremist...
	Yeah, you should be locked up.
	For 15 years.
	Makes it very difficult to do research for us.
	Yeah.
	I didn't even think of that initially.
	Yeah, they're all journalists.
	Oh, that's how you bring in the licensing.
	I have a license to view extremist content online.
	I'm sorry, ma'am.
	Step away.
	I'm a licensed journo.
	Yeah, which is, of course, illegal in the United States because of the First Amendment, but...
	Yeah, well, not in the UK. No, the UK. Oh, I forgot a PR mention.
	And by the way, they can't keep up with this stuff anyway.
	They're idiots.
	Well, but it offers the opportunity to bring in censorship on a grand scale.
	And I'll wait until I see the law, but that is the promise.
	Thank you, producer Adrian, Adrian Archer, for registering and forwarding noagenda.cat to our homepage, noagendashow.com.
	Noagenda.cat?
	Yeah, pretty cool.
	Remember we were talking about.dog?
	Yeah,.dog.
	Yeah, we don't have a.dog yet, but we've got a.cat.
	Noagenda.cat.
	What is the.cat TLD supposed to be for?
	Does it mean cat as in kitten or does it mean cat as in catalog?
	Isn't that Catalonia?
	Okay, but does it generally refer to kittens or catalogs?
	No, Catalonia.
	Catalonia.
	That is the Catalan top-level domain.
	Oh, which we haven't been talking enough about.
	All hell is breaking out.
	I had to chat with somebody who was a Catalonian and I was told that It's like every day there's like a million people in the street.
	This is way beyond anything anyone's reporting.
	I have a BBC interview with the regional...
	Is he a president?
	The regional guy?
	Is he a president?
	What is his official title?
	I don't know what they call him.
	Now, and I want to point out, this is not new.
	Do people learn any history?
	No.
	This is 1981.
	Franco.
	Was it 81?
	I think it was 81.
	It was the exact same issue.
	I think it was before 81.
	I thought all the people got killed.
	I thought Franco died in 81.
	I thought everyone...
	Franco died.
	Well, someone will correct me, but it's within my living memory.
	Let's put it that way.
	Like, oh, Spank.
	Well, we didn't have the kind of news that we have right now, so it was a very different situation.
	I did get...
	So we're talking about Spexit, the way I call it.
	I have boots on the ground from producer Gregory McGregor.
	Also, the blocking of the dot cat...
	Died in 1975.
	It was 71.
	Was it 71?
	He was born in...
	I'm confused with James Franco.
	He's from 81.
	The actor.
	They also...
	Well, they tried to block IPFS, which is a peer-to-peer file sharing protocol.
	You can actually put web pages up on it.
	I've messed around with it.
	It's an interesting technology.
	So you don't have to have a peer.
	They were using IPFS.io and they just blocked all.ios and all.cats.
	That'll do it.
	Yeah, and so that's what I heard.
	You want to hear the Boots on the Ground report real quick from our producer?
	Yes.
	In the morning, Adam and John, I'm writing this on Wednesday afternoon, Spanish time, so who knows what will happen in the following hours.
	You probably know the basics by now.
	Similar to a U.S. state, Catalonia is an autonomous community of Spain.
	For decades, there's been a significant part of the Catalan people who would prefer to be independent, so the government of Catalonia held a referendum last Sunday in order to leave Spain.
	But because it was announced unilaterally and was not authorized by the Spanish government, it was deemed illegal by the Spanish Constitutional Court.
	On the days prior to the referendum, Spanish authorities blocked access to a number of websites put up by the Catalan government to halt the process before the referendum could take place.
	On voting day, Catalonia's autonomous police corps were instructed to follow orders from their superiors in Madrid and seize ballots, ballot boxes, and any other instruments needed to make the referendum happen.
	And a group of Spanish police were sent over to cooperate with their Catalan colleagues.
	Unfortunately, too many people were already riled up and were unwilling to go ahead with orders or stay at home and not vote.
	As a result, we saw clashes between the Spanish police and people barricading the polling stations, around 800 injured, mostly minor injuries, also among cops and voters, people voting without a valid ID and up to four times throughout the day in different polling stations.
	People even tweeted pictures of themselves voting more than once.
	92% of the votes counted were pro-independence with 43% turnout.
	With the exception of Venezuela, a single foreign country is siding with the Catalan government on this matter, and there will likely be harsh sanctions against the organizers.
	If the Catalan government chooses to declare Catalonia as an independent state, which they likely will, it will be considered a coup by the Spanish government.
	Regardless of how this is solved, the bigger problem is the emotional tension among Spaniards.
	My face bag is littered with people furious on both sides of the discussion, and I'll bet.
	I'm genuinely worried about what will happen from here.
	Last time we were this mad at each other, we had a civil war.
	Thank you for the best podcast in the universe and for keeping me sane.
	From Madrid, Gregory McGregor.
	P.S. In English, it's pronounced Barcelona, not Barthelona.
	Stop it.
	It sounds weird.
	Got it.
	Ha!
	Got it.
	Yeah, I take it from him.
	Got it.
	So I think that's a pretty good background, actually, of what's going on.
	Do you have any clips?
	Because I do have this.
	I heavily edited.
	I chopped out all his Spanish and really put the questions and answers together.
	BBC interview of the guy who don't know his title as president or prime minister.
	No, I have some clips from a couple of shows ago, but I don't have anything new.
	It's about three minutes, so we can stop whenever we want, but I think it's good to hear it, because this was recorded yesterday by BBC. We're going to declare independence 48 hours after all the official results are counted.
	This will probably finish when we have the votes in from abroad at the end of the week, and therefore we will act over the weekend or early next week.
	It feels like you're delaying and you're trying to provoke the Spanish government from acting so that they look like the bad guys.
	We would always have liked this process to have been driven by dialogue.
	There wouldn't have been the police violence.
	But, in any case, we decided some time ago that it would be the Catalans who should decide.
	You talk about a process, including Sunday's referendum, it's been going on for years.
	It is akin to you taking the Spanish constitution and tearing it up.
	How could Spain ever accept that?
	No society should accept a status quo it doesn't want, against its will, through force and beatings.
	And this can only be resolved with democracy.
	There are people who interpret the Constitution like the Bible, that it contains absolute truths and that it's more important than the will of the people.
	You're creating Catalan laws and you're saying that they are above Spanish laws.
	And whether you like it or not, you're still part of Spain.
	How can that be right?
	It's obvious that we form part of Spain, but we can and we have the right to create our own state.
	And there's a very clear popular desire, which I don't think anyone disputes anymore, for us to decide our own future.
	A lot of Catalans don't want to leave Spain.
	If finally, through a non-binding consultation, a referendum, whatever mechanism they want, there's a majority of Catalans who want to create an independent state, there has to be a political response.
	We should never lose sight of this.
	Let's talk about the results of Sunday's disputed referendum.
	You say 2.2 million people voted, 40% of the electorate.
	And of those who voted, 90% voted yes to independence from Spain.
	Given the problems surrounding that vote, how can those results be credible?
	Firstly, because there were so many people who wanted to vote, but couldn't.
	That's a fact.
	Of the people who wanted to vote, and we were able to examine their ID card, but we weren't able to count their votes, with these people and the turnout, we would have gone way over the 50%.
	But how can you be sure that people didn't vote twice?
	No, no.
	We looked into the risk of people voting twice quite a lot.
	And there was a bit of work going through all the results.
	And if there was any doubt, we discarded the vote.
	The European Union is saying that this is an internal Spanish matter.
	Do you agree?
	No, no, no.
	No, no, no.
	And what's more, it's very disappointing when I think everyone realizes the magnitude of the problem.
	Almost no one agrees with that here.
	It's a European issue.
	I think we've won the right to be heard.
	But what I find harder to understand is this indifference or absolute lack of interest in understanding what is happening here.
	They've never wanted to listen to us.
	And the British government?
	I think the only position that I've heard is that of Boris Johnson, and I think that was unfortunate.
	If Europe continues believing in Madrid's narrative and denying the gravity of events, denying reality, they could get this completely wrong.
	Tell me your feelings when you watched the violence by Spanish National Police here on Sunday.
	For me, it was very sad.
	I saw it close up.
	They indiscriminately smashed up the polling station where I was due to vote, where my daughters go to school, and they hurt a lot of people.
	People that I know, who have never used violence, people who had their hands in the air, people who did nothing, nothing, nothing, were hit by police.
	The Spanish government says that the Spanish National Police were simply doing their job There you go.
	Well, I'd like to know...
	I don't know how far this is going to go.
	I mean, it could break out to violence.
	Not to kind of police violence.
	We're talking about a shooting.
	Civil war.
	Civil war.
	There's so much hatred.
	Hatred.
	You can't remove hatred.
	So let's say it breaks out into a civil war.
	What does the EU do about that?
	Well, maybe similar to NATO. Actually, C-Mike in the chatroom had made a...
	So what are they going to do?
	Bomb them?
	No, let me finish.
	Send American jets to bomb them?
	Well, that's not what I was going to say.
	But C-Mike in the chatroom said correctly that if Spain...
	Splits up, or has this internal strife, they could not become members of NATO. The main reason that Ukraine is not a NATO member, Georgia, because they have all of these territorial challenges.
	Spain's already a member of NATO. I don't know that you get kicked out.
	Oh, you're talking about Catalonia being a member?
	I don't think it's important to them.
	I'm just telling you, that is the reason why Ukraine, what they give is why you can't be a NATO member.
	We've talked about this, but I don't think, what's NATO got to do with the EU? I said similar.
	I think the EU would have a problem with it.
	That's my point.
	Puke over me the whole time.
	Okay, I'm not going to argue that.
	I'm asking you the first question, which is, what are they going to do about it?
	Send American jets to bomb them.
	You already gave the answer.
	That's all they do, it seems to me.
	Yeah, that's what we do.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	This is, this just, I don't think this ends other way, just, it wasn't ETA, wasn't that all related to this?
	That's the Basques.
	Oh, it's the Basques.
	I'm sorry, you're right.
	I find this to be interesting from the perspective of what's the EU going to do?
	I'm going to throw NATO out.
	But the United Nations, maybe.
	What are they going to do?
	I mean, it's like there's nothing that I can think of.
	The way they set up the EUs is one big happy family.
	I'd say throw the problem on top of the pile.
	There's a lot going on.
	I'll bet you they don't do anything.
	I think that was the setup when they said, oh, it's kind of a Spanish problem.
	We don't give a shit.
	Well, they don't say anything about Belgium and the Walloons and the Phlems.
	That would be the next thing.
	Unless the Basques decided to go nuts, I think the Belgians would have a problem.
	Oh, if they're going to let these guys just split off for no good reason.
	And you could have the Welsh do that.
	Then you could have the Friesland do that in the Netherlands.
	The Scots.
	The Scots.
	There you go.
	There's your answer.
	Thank you.
	We did it live!
	This cannot stand for the EU would definitely see everything fall apart.
	I think that's why it can never happen.
	If you want to know their stance, it can't happen.
	For that very reason.
	Well, I think it can happen.
	I don't know whether it will happen.
	But it would just keep us interested for a long time, because what are they going to do about it?
	I mean, they can't let this...
	I mean, it's part of the EU. I mean, even though, yeah, if they split off, there'd be some...
	There was some thought, I think it was even mentioned in one of the meetings that they had in Parliament, the EU Parliament, that they would have to recognize Catalonia as its own state.
	You know, the EU is kind of like a podcasting network.
	You get all these podcasters.
	They all want attention.
	They all want money.
	Then we have hosts splitting up and there's another show that's created.
	And you can't monetize the network.
	It won't work.
	You have to decentralize some of this stuff.
	This is crazy.
	I'm no economist.
	It is a good story.
	But the other one that's continuing is the Kurdistan problem.
	Yes.
	And I do have that clipped.
	Okay.
	And is that the one from Holly?
	Yes, from Holly.
	Turkish and Iraqi troops held military drills along Iraqi Kurdistan's northern border this week.
	And from its main airport yesterday, people took the last planes out after Iraq's national government cancelled international flights.
	Federal Iraqi authorities are ratcheting up the tension, pressuring the leaders of this region to cancel the results of Monday's referendum, in which over 90% of voters chose full independence.
	Most are members of the Kurdish ethnic minority and they already rule over their own autonomous region.
	Iraq's national government says the referendum was illegal.
	Turkey, which has a restive Kurdish population of its own, condemned the vote and the US also opposed it, worried it could disrupt the fragile cooperation between the Kurds and the Iraqi government in the fight against ISIS. The Kurds of Iraq have battled bravely against ISIS, close American allies who have laid down their lives to defeat the extremists.
	Captain Hazan Nader Hassan lost both his legs to an ISIS bomb in 2014 and told us doctors only gave him a 2% chance of survival.
	When you realize that you've lost both of your legs, what went through your head?
	Whoa!
	Best question ever.
	Well, what went through my head is, I'm going to punch you in the face.
	What kind of question is that?
	I thought, gee, I'll never walk again.
	I mean, what the hell?
	That's insulting.
	I'm totally in agreement with you on this.
	The song, you'll never...
	I mean, come on.
	And told us doctors only gave him a 2% chance of survival.
	When you realise that you'd lost both of your legs, what went through your head?
	I was thinking about my kids, he told us, and whether I'd ever see them again.
	Sergeant Masoud Hamad Majid's body was peppered with shrapnel last November on the front line with ISIS. He was in a coma for 18 days and has neurological damage.
	But he told us he still wants to go back to being a soldier.
	Many people here believe that sacrifice makes Iraqi Kurdistan more deserving of independence.
	But not even its friends seem to agree.
	Hmm.
	So that's going on.
	Yeah, this is not a lot of info.
	No, they're not giving us anything because this is all kept, you know, it's not part of the narrative.
	We want to know more of what a jerk Trump is.
	Moron!
	Everybody who reported, I love saying it.
	Give me your North Korea bits.
	Well, here's the North Korea stuff that would have been part of the narrative if they hadn't had the shooting.
	But let's start with Morrell.
	When he shows up, I think he's with Charlie Rose, and it's scripted, very scripted back and forth.
	Is this Rose's show or the CBS Morning Show?
	No, this I believe is Rose's show, yes.
	Fundamental problem is that the North Koreans are a few months away.
	Okay, stop it for a second.
	I want to mention something I noticed.
	Because I had a different clip than this one.
	But this clip, and what makes me think it's scripted, is because when Morel's speaking, normally every sentence ends with right.
	Right.
	When it's scripted, it's very weird.
	Let's put it to the test.
	Put it to task.
	Morel.
	I'll just grab it.
	Morel.
	M-O-R-E-L. Morell.
	But just grab a random Morell clip.
	And this is titled, Make It Easier.
	General Alexander testified to us that in...
	That's not a clip that he's in in the beginning.
	I'm sorry.
	This was going to be good.
	This is him on Charlie Rose.
	That should prove it.
	Let's come back.
	Let's come back to the deal, right?
	Yeah.
	Right off the bat.
	Good catch.
	Good catch.
	You nailed it.
	Exactly.
	So you'll hear very few of this sort of thing because he's memorized it.
	Or teleprompter or whatever.
	Fundamental problem is that the North Koreans are a few months away, 6 to 12, from demonstrating the capability of putting a U.S. city at risk of nuclear attack.
	There's three pieces, Charlie, that you have to have.
	One is nuclear weapons.
	The ability to get a nuclear yield out of an explosion.
	That's 100%.
	We know that.
	We know they have that.
	They've demonstrated it.
	They've tested.
	Got that guaranteed.
	The second is the ability to deliver a payload the distance you want it to go.
	They've done a couple of tests.
	That demonstrated a capability to put a missile as far east as Chicago or Detroit.
	We don't know 100% what the weight of the payload that they tested was, so we don't know exactly how far they can deliver a nuclear weapon.
	As far as Chicago?
	As far as Chicago or Detroit?
	We're not 100% sure.
	Or Detroit?
	I don't know.
	We do so many shows in a row.
	Huh?
	He made it certain that he's kept Detroit in this narrative.
	Why?
	Because he rehearsed this.
	Oh, yes, of course.
	It had to be Chicago or Detroit.
	Or Detroit.
	So when Charlie says, well, Chicago, or Detroit, he had to do that.
	I don't know why, but the point of Detroit...
	Write it down.
	I'm putting it on the list.
	Write it down.
	Write it down.
	Something to do with Detroit.
	At least Austin's not on the list anymore.
	Ah, damn it.
	Exactly how far they can deliver a nuclear weapon.
	As far as Chicago.
	As far as Chicago or Detroit?
	We're not 100% sure.
	He almost says it like, or Detroit, remember Charlie?
	We talked about that?
	Detroit?
	Douche?
	Remember that?
	Why are you saying Chicago?
	It's Detroit.
	We're not 100% sure how much the payload weighed, right?
	And that's a big determinant of how far it can go.
	So, check for sure on the weapon.
	Close to a check on the missile.
	Right.
	And then the third piece is, can you make a nuclear weapon small enough to fit on a missile?
	The intelligence community thinks they can do that.
	And then the last piece is, can you make it all work?
	Can you make all of the electronics work under the intense vibrations of takeoff and reentry and the heat and pressure?
	They should send Elon over there.
	That we just don't know where they are.
	So hence the fundamental problem we have, right?
	Right.
	There it is.
	There it is.
	Right.
	First one.
	Diplomacy is, I think.
	Nick is the diplomat here.
	So now he's off script.
	Like the algos come off and he's back.
	And he brings this guy, Nick, this character.
	We've seen him before.
	Oh, that guy.
	Trump hater.
	He looks like Charlton Heston a little bit.
	Trump hater.
	And you can see when he goes off script because he immediately starts to stammer.
	And he says, right.
	Diplomacy is, I think.
	Nick is the diplomat here, but I think diplomacy is the right approach.
	I think putting pressure on them is the right approach.
	After 25 years of pressuring them, though, I'm not 100% certain, in fact I'm uncertain, that that is going to stop him from ultimately demonstrating that capability.
	Now, this clip, which would have been played on the last show, but it makes no difference.
	This is the introductory clip that would have gone right into the Trump's a moron because the whole Tillerson narrative had to do with his poor job of working with North Korea and Trump's tweets that said, ah, get off of North Korea, they're dummies.
	And that whole thing.
	So it was all set up.
	The skids were greased.
	A phrase from the shades if I've ever heard one.
	Beautiful.
	That's from the North Pole, I think.
	And boom!
	Hey, you said boom again!
	Oh my god, this is terrible.
	We can't use this now.
	Let's just say moron a lot.
	Hey, Chris, do you have any good ideas?
	Yeah, I'll do a dictionary dump of the definition.
	It's Trump Watch Wednesday!
	Hey, you said boom.
	Boom.
	I know.
	Now, the other two clips about North Korea are pretty much just some kind of, I don't know what the point of these were, but it's about North Korea.
	They apparently qualified for the Olympics in South Korea.
	Well, no, it's the Winter Olympics.
	Yeah, the Winter Olympics in South Korea.
	That's not qualified.
	They're being held there.
	Yes, no, I'm saying the North Koreans qualified to be at the...
	Oh, I see.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	They passed the test.
	They spun the girl around enough times and threw her in the air.
	But that was also the South Korean president, the new president's whole thing.
	He said, hey, you know, why don't we just let the North Koreans come in?
	We can have their teams on, too.
	I think that was a South Korean initiative.
	Could have been.
	You want to play that clip?
	As tensions with North Korea remain at a boiling point, many are hoping that what happened on the ice today could lead to a lowering of tensions in the region.
	At a competition in Germany, a pair of North Korean figure skaters earned their country's first spots at the Winter Olympics next year in South Korea.
	Whether they'll participate remains to be seen.
	We get more from NBC's Jolene Kent.
	For four minutes, a performance that moved a crowd and lifted hopes.
	18-year-old Daok Rum and 25-year-old Jushik Kim earned the first spot for North Korea at next year's Olympics.
	Rum saying, despite the different nationalities, that I could make our supporters happy brought me the greatest happiness.
	South Korea's president saying last week, if the North participates, it will be a great opportunity to send a message of peace to the world.
	But security concerns loom over these games.
	Last week, France suggested that without assurances that their athletes would be safe, it may skip the Olympics.
	American figure skater Ashley Wagner, who won bronze in Sochi, is optimistic.
	I would never do anything that I felt would threaten my life, but this is the Olympics.
	This is where the world comes together to celebrate sport and hard work and people's dreams being accomplished.
	During the Rio Olympics, this photo of North and South Korean gymnasts went viral.
	North Korea has until October 30th to decide whether to use the spot.
	Today, Rum saying, we want to become world champions.
	It's a common dream that connects athletes across countries in a world where so much else divides.
	JoLynn Kent, NBC News, Los Angeles.
	Yeah, this is rigged news.
	Well, I'm very surprised.
	I'm very surprised because I caught the meme being launched.
	It didn't get legs.
	There's only one guy running the meme.
	He's trying to push it.
	Both you and I thought it could possibly be a bullshit story.
	Bullcrap, I'm sorry.
	Here is former CIA director James Woolsey.
	Now, he was a significant director, wasn't he?
	I think he was involved in some hanky-panky.
	Yeah, so he was significant.
	Yeah, and he appears on Don Lemon's show from time to time.
	Yeah, he was working for Trump for a while in some...
	There was a falling out or something.
	Oh, he was?
	I didn't know he was working for the...
	Yeah, he was.
	Well, this is a story that we thought was bullcrap.
	The North Koreans had been able to detonate in orbit for several years a nuclear weapon.
	Orbiting a small satellite is the easiest thing that's done in space.
	That's why Sputnik in Russia in 57 was the first thing done and so forth.
	Oh, yeah.
	And if you put a simple...
	Nuclear weapon, something about the size of a golf bag, into a simple satellite and detonate it up 30, 40, 50, 100 miles above an area, you can knock out the electric grid of that area.
	And I think the North Koreans have been able to do that for now several years.
	What they have not been able to do is to launch an ICBM, an intercontinental ballistic missile that goes up into space and comes back and reenters the atmosphere and has heat shields and accuracy because it's being shot at a specific target.
	All of those are hard to do.
	And the North Koreans are coming along on that.
	They're much further along than I would like to see, but they made progress by this other launch.
	But I think they have been able to knock out our electric grid now for several years.
	The intercontinental ballistic missile that was tested In a sense, it kind of goes up into space briefly, but it follows a ballistic trajectory and requires heat shields and all those things I described, and it's aimed at a specific target.
	The North Koreans have made progress now toward doing that.
	What I'm saying is that if they had wanted to, and the same will be true soon, I'm very afraid of the Iranians, if they want to detonate a nuclear weapon up above the United States, somewhere in orbit, 50, 100, 200 miles up above.
	That is much easier to do.
	And it knocks out, I'm afraid, under most circumstances, a major share of our electric grid.
	Possible show title, Golf Bag Nuke.
	I like it.
	Yeah.
	I don't think it's a possible.
	I think that's the name of the show.
	Mission, yeah, kind of possible.
	Golf bag nuke.
	Although we should probably have some Vegas show titles since we talked about that the most.
	We could do that, I guess.
	Yeah, well...
	You want to take a break or you want to do...
	I have some...
	Let's see.
	White men are shit.
	I have some of those clips.
	Oh, that's common.
	Let's take a break.
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	I have a couple.
	Actually, I do want to do these.
	No.
	No.
	Yes.
	No.
	No.
	I do want to do some Black Lives Matter stuff.
	Okay.
	That thing is interesting.
	You know, the ACLU is under fire.
	Of course, at first, they were like, ah, ACLU, they're great.
	You know, they're on our side.
	They're for Planned Parenthood.
	But they're really just a bunch of lawyers who try to follow the law and file lawsuits.
	And I... I was a supporter of theirs until they really went all crazy.
	I think at one point I played a bit on the show of a donation solicitation.
	Now, that, of course, is just a guy trying to get money out of me for the ACLU. That's his job.
	Yeah, you humiliated him on the air.
	That was great.
	That was pretty fun.
	But also, it's like I don't want to support a group that is trying to get their money in that manner.
	It was really disgusting.
	So the ACLU regional director in Virginia was at the William& Mary College, very famous, a lot of elites there, and she was really there to tell the group how they could protest And what their rights are, and if you get arrested, it was really a helpful thing, which I think is helpful for any citizen to know your rights, whether you're Black Lives Matter or whatever you are.
	It doesn't matter.
	I think that's good.
	However, Black Lives Matter came in and they started doing some new chants.
	And as we've discussed, this chanting and repeating of the chanting is mind control.
	Whether it's intended or not, it seems to be a very slick way to get everybody on board the program.
	Do you have any further thoughts on that, John?
	No, I think that we've determined this a while ago.
	So listen closely to the chants.
	They repeat them a number of times.
	So they really just interrupt her while she's trying to help them.
	And I'm going to talk to you a bit about knowing your rights in protests and demonstrations, which this illustrates very well.
	And I'll appreciate it.
	And then I'm going to respond to questions from the moderators and then any questions that there are from the audience.
	ACLU, you protect Hitler too!
	In case you hadn't caught it, ACLU, you protect Hitler too!
	ACLU! I didn't know that Hitler was still alive.
	They protect him, because he's apparently alive, and Argentina, ACLU, is protecting him.
	Or do they mean the neo-Nazis, the KKK, the, you know, anyone else who wants to...
	Yeah, but that's not Hitler.
	Of course not, but this is what is being programmed.
	Terrorist!
	Time to change it up.
	This one I couldn't understand.
	Can you hear what they're saying?
	I didn't understand it either.
	Yeah, it's not a good one.
	A-C-L-U, hostile to who? A-C-L-U, hostile to who? A-C-L-U. - Oh, hostile?
	Is it hostile to who?
	I don't know.
	Hostile to...
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	But there's some solos here.
	So you might be able to catch something.
	To who?
	A-C-L-U. Hostile to who?
	A-C-L-U. Hostile to who?
	Free speech for who?
	N-C-L-U! Free speech for who?
	Free speech for who?
	For who?
	Free speech for who?
	In other words, it can't be for those guys?
	Is that the idea?
	Free speech for who?
	For everybody?
	Oh, we can't have that.
	The oppressed are not impressed.
	The oppressed are not impressed!
	Shame!
	Ah, luckily, there's our Game of Thrones reference.
	You always need that to cement it in their brains.
	It works.
	So let me get this straight.
	This woman goes up to give a speech about how you can protest and not worry about getting in trouble or protect your rights.
	Very useful information, especially somebody in the Black Lives Matter movement, I would think.
	Very good information.
	And instead of appreciating it, they shout her down.
	Yeah.
	For the only reason, just to shout her down, there's no real...
	Well, because they protected the Nazi...
	Hitler, sorry.
	Hitler.
	Hitler.
	Yeah, they protected Hitler.
	The other clip I have is Michelle Obama at the Conference for Women.
	I think this was Pennsylvania.
	And I listened to this, and...
	I know.
	I want your opinion after you hear what she says.
	And we look around and we all look alike.
	We're all sitting around the same table and we feel really comfortable with ourselves.
	We should question that at any table that we're at.
	And we should be working actively to mix it up so that we're getting a real broad range of perspectives on every issue.
	But I, you know...
	Shoot, I would see that in Congress.
	I mean, one of the most interesting points, I told you about this, usually at the State of the Union address, where, you know, you sit in the balcony and watch the State of the Union.
	You know, like you do.
	Yeah, like you do.
	You know, you see it on TV. I'm in the room.
	But when you're in the room, what you can see is this real dichotomy.
	That on one side of the room, it's a feeling of color, almost.
	On one side of the room, it's literally gray and white.
	Literally.
	That's the color palette on one side of the room.
	On the other side of the room, there's yellows and blues and whites and greens.
	Physically, there's a difference in color.
	Greens.
	In the tone.
	Because one side, all men.
	All white.
	On the other side, some women.
	Some people of color.
	And whenever I was sitting, I would always have a guest in that booth.
	And I was always the most embarrassed at the beginning when people would see that.
	Because I'd say that, is it just me?
	Am I looking at how governance works?
	And people would look down at that and go, yeah, yeah, that looks good.
	That looks right.
	We're probably getting a lot done and we're doing it right.
	I look at that and I go, no wonder.
	No wonder we struggle.
	No wonder people don't trust politics.
	We're not even noticing what these rooms look like.
	But it's not just politics.
	I mean, I'm sure we can go in any C-suite in this country and we'd see the same thing happening.
	So until we are ready to fight for that, which means some people have to be willing to give up their seats to make room or you need to be ready to add more seats.
	I think we're going to continue to struggle.
	Because if people haven't had the experience of being other and out, and you're trying to fix the problems of those folks, it's hard to come up with the right answer when you haven't lived it.
	Thanks, Obama.
	Wow.
	Well, she's a big talker.
	I didn't see that Obama did anything for the black community whatsoever.
	Except make them feel proud that they have a black president.
	But there was nothing, no follow-up.
	And when he had the opportunity to do stuff, because he owned the place, he owned Senate by 60 votes, which means you could do anything.
	He owned the House and he had the presidency.
	He could have ran through anything he wanted for a good six months to a year.
	No.
	So what's she talking about?
	I don't know, but it just sounded really racist.
	It just sounds like a bunch of white racism to me from her.
	Yes, it sounded like a lot of racist talk.
	And ageist.
	And ageist.
	And methanthropist, whatever.
	The male versus misogynist.
	I know what it is.
	And saying that you need to mix it up at the table with people of different colors.
	Not who they are.
	And also, it didn't sound like there's a lot of white people in the Democratic Party.
	No, they've gone to identity politics.
	They've told a white man to get lost.
	White women, too.
	That's why they lost the 51% of the working white women that didn't vote for Hillary, who's a woman.
	But I can tell you, if the goal is to make old white men sound like the other, you're succeeding.
	You're succeeding.
	I think so.
	You're doing a good job of that.
	It's not helping.
	I feel that.
	It's not helping unless you think that these Facebook posts, like the ones you read, are a little over-dramatized.
	Let me tell you something.
	You say that for the second time, thank you.
	I mean, jeez.
	Everybody else loved it.
	The point is that what you read is an exemplification of what's going on.
	It's just hate.
	It's real, real hate.
	It's hate.
	And it's not healthy.
	It's hate speech right there.
	It's hate speech and it's not healthy and these people that are exhibiting it or doing it or practicing it are asking for health problems.
	Yes.
	There you go.
	That's very astute of you.
	Health problems.
	Yes.
	Jeez.
	You can't have that much hate.
	Hate.
	Bottled up.
	It'll make you sick.
	Apparently it is.
	It'll make you sick.
	It gives you cancer.
	That's my theory at least.
	Very, very bad.
	Very bad.
	It's not good for your immune system and you can catch certain things I think you wouldn't normally get.
	And another story I think warrants some deconstruction because the media is doing such a fine job of reporting it is Puerto Rico.
	Do you have anything on Puerto Rico?
	I have a letter from one of our producers.
	Yes, I got that too.
	Yeah, why don't you read that?
	That was a pretty good note.
	Yeah, it's from...
	In the town where my mother resides, nothing happened.
	An overflowed creek flooded part of the town, but not at rooftop heights.
	Yes, they are out of power due to old power lines.
	Maybe to keep up because they are broke.
	Not enough workers because they are broke.
	It's funny how the news shows photos of poor areas in the same way a trailer park is made after a tornado.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	If you see the PR land, the Puerto Rican landscape center is a mountainous region.
	It is not uncommon to see landslides fall on trees or eroded roads compound the situation with decaying infrastructure and a weak economy.
	It does not take much to create havoc.
	It's more of a logistical nightmare than anything else, which sounds like it to me, too.
	Believe it or not, fuel is one of the biggest problems because it has to be imported.
	Before, we had the Corco oil refinery.
	Now it sits derelict next to the highway in Guanajuato.
	The wiki got a decent photo of how it looks today.
	If it was open, they would have all the fuel they need.
	The San Juan mayor is a showboater.
	She's aspiring to be the next governor, playing the old rule of don't let a good tragedy go to waste.
	Keep in mind that progressive party liberals are in power.
	There is a recording in Spanish with subtitles about a gal that works with the state police.
	She is crying over the airwaves complaining about the San Juan mayor holding the aid.
	By the way.
	There's that one picture going around where she's standing in front of a bunch of stuff that's not distributed.
	Very funny.
	I think also the union, the truck driver's union, they decided not to show up.
	That's what I heard, possibly.
	Also says she would not do anything unless the camera was behind her or in front of her.
	Perhaps you guys got the audio, but here's the link.
	Keep in mind, Puerto Rico's building codes, storms, and hurricanes are taken into consideration.
	For example, windows have to be the shutter metal type.
	The houses are made on concrete for many obvious reasons.
	They will not rot.
	It suits the tropics.
	My parents' house is a bunker.
	It was made by pouring concrete into molds, and the roof is on concrete.
	However, some building codes are not enforced due to the fact that the government's corrupt, and inspectors do not simply care.
	Lazy, he says.
	So people do whatever the heck they want on private residences.
	Puerto Rico.
	Alright, but I have a fun little clip of the former Attorney General of Puerto Rico, and he's on CNN with...
	I forget the guy's name.
	He's kind of like a B-team.
	He's always...
	If it's something in the South, he shows up.
	I can't remember his name.
	And...
	So the former attorney general does not follow the narrative.
	I will give you the control room behind the scenes action as well.
	What do you think of the president's response to the mayor's plea for help?
	Well, the president has done great.
	And every mayor I spoke to...
	The president's been great.
	Yeah, he's been great.
	Even saying the tweets that he criticizes the mayor of San Juan is great?
	Well, the mayor of San Juan is a political hack.
	Who, who, who, who was inventing the president, she was singing the praises of the president to her political...
	My advisor, Luis Gutierrez of Chicago, got there, brought her the t-shirts and said, hey, you want to run for governor?
	I'm going to interrupt you just for a second.
	If she wants to run...
	And if I can't hear you, then I can't go back and forth with questions.
	So until I get this fixed, Maria, I'll let you try and get a response while I try and get hearing you fixed.
	So he did the old, I can't hear you bit.
	What?
	That's low end.
	This is rinky dink, these guys.
	They get anybody on there that has anything to say that's not along the narrative lines, and they cut them off.
	It's unbelievable how bad they are.
	I wanted to talk about the actual situation of Puerto Rico.
	It is my understanding they're a protectorate, and I think there was at one point a vote if they should become an official state or some other official status.
	But that was voted down.
	And as I understand, the main stumbling block is that there is, for most people in Puerto Rico, no state income tax.
	Now, Puerto Rico does tax, and there's lots of federal taxes that come in, but there's also no payroll taxes.
	And everyone's like, screw that noise.
	We don't want to be a part of that.
	We can get almost all the benefit.
	Right.
	But not really.
	They're not really paying.
	Yeah, and that's why they're broke.
	And did I understand that Trump, now he says, oh, we got to get rid of the debt.
	Is he signaling to Wall Street they have to get rid of it?
	Or is he signaling a bailout to Wall Street?
	He was signaling a bailout and everybody said, no, not going to happen.
	Good.
	Crazy nut job.
	You can't do that.
	Yeah.
	But I like the idea of screwing Goldman Sachs.
	That's a good idea.
	Yeah, well, that never happens for a good reason.
	Wow, but he was like, kiss it goodbye.
	That was me, like, kiss it goodbye, we're going to pay for it?
	No.
	Yeah, no, it didn't work.
	No, you can't do that.
	So they're screwed, but apparently they've been screwed for a while, so I guess they're used to it.
	Yes.
	I have a couple of stories to finish.
	I have a good, kind of a good news story.
	Because the ending is pretty funny.
	I'm really happy that we don't have advertisers.
	They wouldn't like it.
	This is a story, a screwball story.
	I thought it was one of those things that would lead the national news.
	It was completely ignored because of what happened in Vegas.
	But this is a madman kills chef in Oregon.
	Oh boy.
	On the Crimewatch, Oregon police say that a Pacific Grove man opened fire in a restaurant in Ashland, Oregon over the weekend, killing the chef.
	40-year-old Neil Norman got in the victim's car, drove five miles down the I-5, got out of the vehicle, and then started opening fire.
	A passenger spy whose car was hit by three bullets ran him over.
	He was killed.
	Criminal records show no criminal history for Norman in Monterey County other than two traffic tickets back in 2005 and 2008.
	So this guy, he's on drugs.
	He's on drugs.
	And he goes and he shoots some guy and he drives off in his car and then he stops for some unknown reason.
	He starts shooting at cars going by and some guy decides to run him over.
	And there you go.
	That's the western justice.
	And where was that again?
	It was in Oregon.
	Oh gosh.
	Outside of Ashford.
	That's bad.
	Have you seen, you know, the scams continue.
	Have you seen the, I only caught the, I caught most of this ad, the oneamericaappeal.org?
	No, I have a different ad that I brought to the party today, but no, what is this?
	We'll play it.
	Hurricanes and flooding have upended lives and livelihoods.
	Across this great country, Americans have answered the call.
	That special calling that compels us, when others are down, to step up and do whatever it takes.
	Americans at our best when, against all odds, we come together and lift each other up.
	Please donate to oneamericaappeal.org.
	America needs you.
	Thank you.
	We'll play it.
	Is that for Puerto Rico?
	I guess.
	It's Clinton's the guy that comes at the end.
	He's got that coy look and he says, thank you.
	Thank you, Debbie.
	I don't know how stupid you are until you've given us money.
	I'll play my commercial later or maybe next time.
	What is it?
	Where is it here?
	Oh, yes.
	Because Clinton came out and he had that new Bill Clinton voice, which is barely just a shadow of his old voice and a shadow of him.
	This is Theresa May, and I predict, you can put it in the book, she's out.
	She will no longer lead the country.
	They've given her the Hillary cough.
	Then she's out.
	The British dream is still within reach.
	For as we look to that future, we do so with the fundamentals of our country strong.
	Ten years after Northern Rock, our economy is back on track.
	The deficit is back to pre-crisis levels.
	It's as if my voice isn't on track.
	Very good, Theresa.
	Yes, tell him.
	You can do it, girls.
	We're firmly on course to get our national debt falling and business investment is growing.
	Now, the work to get there hasn't been easy.
	It's meant big decisions and huge sacrifices.
	I know that the public sector has had to carry a heavy burden.
	The private sector has played its part too.
	But with government, businesses and the public sector working together, we have bounced back.
	We've created record numbers of jobs.
	And it doesn't stop there.
	So, while we will never hesitate to act where businesses aren't operating as they should,
	Let this party celebrate the wealth creators, the risk takers, the innovators and entrepreneurs.
	I mean, it just goes on and on and on.
	This is like the State of the Union she was giving.
	Yes.
	Or the state of the party or something like that.
	It's a very important speech.
	Yes.
	No, she said they used a pricker on her.
	I don't know what that is.
	It's either that or what everyone always says when they hear Hillary is they say coke throat.
	I'm not familiar with this.
	I'm not in that milieu nor have I ever been.
	I've never heard of that either.
	Maybe.
	Maybe she's coked up.
	It's possible.
	I just have never heard of the coke throat bit.
	I've never heard of coke throat either.
	I've never heard of that.
	Well, let's look it up.
	Okay, there's an idea for me.
	Coke's throat.
	Oh, this should be interesting.
	Okay, sore throat.
	I got it, but I'm just reading what I'm seeing here.
	Oh, you found something.
	Okay.
	Yeah, what are the side effects?
	Let me see if there's a throat in here.
	It just says sore throat.
	It wouldn't be a sore throat.
	The physical side effects of cocaine use can be bad.
	It can damage your heart, cause you to have a heart attack, give you high blood pressure.
	If you snort the drug, you can cause damage to your nose, larynx, throat, and can cause permanent damage to your nose and throat to the point where you may have to have surgery to repair the damage.
	It doesn't really mention the...
	No, I don't see anything about a cough.
	No, not in combo with a cough.
	No, I don't think that's it.
	Something else.
	There's a lot of handy tips, though.
	On the internet.
	Handy tips.
	Yeah, the internet's filled with handy tips.
	Handy tips, I tell ya.
	Alrighty.
	So the EU is still on the case of ripping off the NBA.
	This really irks me.
	Let's play this clip.
	This is EU hitting Amazon for back taxes.
	Online retail giant Amazon has been ordered to pay nearly $295 million in back taxes to Luxembourg.
	The European Union ruled today that the tiny nation gave Amazon illegal tax benefits over an eight-year period.
	It said the effect was to shield almost three-quarters of Amazon's profits from taxes.
	It's the latest move in the EU's crackdown to close tax loopholes.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	Now, this is one of those things.
	This seems like a bait-and-switch scam.
	They go to Luxembourg and they say, hey, we want to set up a shop here.
	Is there any chance?
	We'll give you a tax deal.
	We'll make it easy for you.
	We'll give you half the tax.
	This is what happened in Ireland.
	Same thing in Ireland with a couple of companies.
	Apple, I think, was one of them.
	No problem.
	We'll give you a sweet deal.
	Oh, that's great.
	We'll take the sweet deal.
	And so they work and they do a lot of business there for a number of years.
	And so they accumulate this fake debt that they didn't know they had until the EU comes.
	Nah, that deal's null and void.
	Done.
	No good, whatever they did, that deal.
	Now, Now, you gotta pay us $250 million in taxes right now.
	This is bullcrap.
	Yeah.
	I saw you have one...
	This is always the nice thing about our show.
	I have no idea what John's...
	Of course, I know what he's going to do, but we don't have any collusion.
	We don't talk.
	We don't say, hey, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that.
	No, there's no coordination.
	This is just two guys.
	And I see you have an Equifax tidbit.
	I actually pulled a couple of very short clips, but rather entertaining...
	What is your tidbit?
	Can I just play this?
	Mine's just a short bit where Equifax is going to make profit.
	Tonight, Equifax accused of profiting from that massive security breach.
	Senator Elizabeth Warren grilling former CEO Richard Smith on Capitol Hill, saying Equifax could make more than $200 million in revenue if just $1 million customers buy credit monitoring after the breach.
	The former CEO admitting Americans often buy that protection after breaches.
	Couldn't be a better lead-in to my clips.
	I have Elizabeth Warren talking to the now ex-Equifax CEO about that very practice.
	In August, just a couple of weeks before you disclosed this massive hack, you said, and I want to quote...
	Stop.
	I just need to say something about the word hack.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	It is used too universally.
	And journos, you need to get your crap together.
	And specifically what bothers me is that the Russians hacked 21 state systems.
	Now, they were not election systems.
	That news was released on a Friday, so we don't really remember that anymore.
	That's not going to be around.
	But they did not hack.
	That is intrusion.
	Penetration.
	That's not penetration.
	As you know, I'm an expert on penetration.
	Port scans are the equivalent of casing the joint.
	That's what that is.
	That's not a hack.
	It is incorrect.
	We continue.
	In August, just a couple of weeks before you disclose this massive hack, you said, and I want to quote you here, fraud is a huge opportunity for us.
	It is a massive growing business for us.
	You've got three different ways that Equifax is making money, millions of dollars off its own screw up.
	That's more than $200 million in revenue for Equifax because of this breach.
	That is the American way.
	Big foam finger number one.
	Senator John Kennedy from Louisiana asked about this.
	You collect my information without my permission.
	You collect my information without my permission.
	You take it along with everyone else's information and you sell that information to businesses.
	Is that basically correct?
	That's largely correct.
	I mean, I don't pay extra in a restaurant to prevent the waiter from spitting in my food.
	But he went one step further, and this is the kicker.
	You realize to many Americans right now that looks like we're giving Lindsay Lohan the keys to the minibar.
	I understand your point.
	And he says, I understand your point.
	That lush Lindsay Lohan giving the keys to the minibar.
	Poor Lindsey.
	Why did you bring her into it?
	That sucks.
	That's kind of low.
	Yeah, totally.
	I just have another shorty here.
	This is about the insider stock sales on the day that the news was released.
	He told the FBI about the breach.
	On that same day, high-level execs sell $2 million worth of stock.
	This really stinks.
	I mean, it really smells really bad.
	These are honorable men who follow the protocol that was outlined by the organization.
	Okay, thank you.
	That's the answer.
	Honorable men.
	John, you and I, we're just honorable men.
	That's all that we really are.
	Just honorable men.
	White men, old men, but we're honorable.
	And since we're both getting up there, I think this commercial is targeted towards us.
	I certainly perked up when I saw it.
	I see people over 65 with flu all the time.
	My flu experience was just shocking.
	As the body ages, the immune system gets weaker.
	You add in any other underlying health issues, like asthma, and there is your emergency.
	I've seen them go from just a sniffle to in the bed with tubes in their arms.
	It's a domino effect.
	Fever, chills, fatigue, low blood pressure.
	I feel like they're being suffocated.
	That's when we'll have to intubate them.
	Once pneumonia sets in...
	It's very, very touch-and-go.
	It was a real wake-up call.
	To get a flu-related illness because of something that could have been prevented, it's...
	You're over 65 and you've got grandchildren.
	You kind of think, I'm going to be there.
	And then you get the flu and...
	No, you're not, maybe.
	I love the music.
	The website is SeniorFluShot.com.
	Did I follow the story of the woman who got the flu shot and ended up getting the flu and dying?
	I probably missed it.
	I'm sure there's somewhere in the by that specified that.
	SeniorFluShot.com.
	And now they're promoting it now with adjuvants.
	They're literally making that a marketing point.
	It's just like the whole story that we did like years ago starting over.
	Yes, but they're promoting it as a benefit, not with adjuvant, which is the hamburger helper of vaccine.
	Yeah, it's just a bunch of rice.
	Still, my goodness.
	Well, since you're going to be talking about this, I got a vaccination story that's a little more realistic what we can expect in the future.
	Okay.
	What would that be titled?
	I got forced vaccinations.
	Next to the nationwide debate tonight, a mother sentenced to one week in jail after defying a judge's order to vaccinate her nine-year-old son.
	Here's ABC's Ariel Reshef.
	I'm a passionate mother who cares deeply about my children, their health, and their well-being.
	Tonight, this Michigan mom of two is headed to jail, held in contempt for deliberately disobeying a court order to vaccinate her nine-and-a-half-year-old son.
	If my child is going to be forced to be vaccinated...
	I couldn't bring myself to do it.
	Rebecca Bredo pleading her case before a judge, saying she and her ex-husband agreed to space out and ultimately suspend their son's vaccines.
	We've always shared the same beliefs on vaccinations until recently.
	The judge saying that boy will be vaccinated while Bredo is in jail.
	Okay ma'am, I'm gonna stop you.
	Because the truth matters to me.
	I understand you love your children, but what I don't think you understand is that your son has two parents and dad gets a say.
	While the state of Michigan does allow parents to opt their children out of certain vaccinations, both parents must agree.
	The American Academy of Pediatrics says vaccines are safe, vaccines are effective, vaccines save lives.
	David, Rebecca Bredo's ex-husband was granted temporary custody of their son while she serves her seven-day jail sentence.
	She's expected to be back in court next week.
	David?
	Wow.
	Yeah, I'd heard about this.
	Good story.
	Yeah, well, it's more a custody case.
	It's more a custody case.
	It's a custody case more than anything.
	If you're going to say this, I'll say that.
	Yeah, but it is troubling.
	But it's not like...
	Oh, lip smack.
	I don't know what to say about it.
	It's not good.
	You mean the lip smack?
	The lip smack is not good.
	The forced vaccinations.
	Yeah.
	Be careful.
	You sound like AJ now.
	They're putting cancer in the vaccines!
	You almost have the voice where you do some screaming, but your pitch is just slightly off.
	They're putting cancer in the vaccines!
	Maybe like that.
	See, at the very end there, you had the right bit, but it was at the very end.
	I'll work on it.
	And I think it's got to be hard on your throat, so I don't know if you can do it without hurting yourself.
	Yeah, and then I'll be accused of having coke throat by those two douchebags on no agenda.
	All right, everybody, we'll be back on Sunday.
	I am sure there will be tons to deconstruct as we stay on the Vegas story and Spexit, Brexit.
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	Tampatitis is the best one through feces, so you have to touch the poop.
	Some days it's easy, other days it's hard.
	But if your system's working, make your lucky stars.
	Nobody talks about it, not a word is said.
	If you're not pooping, then it means you're probably dead.
	They're pooping on the street.
	There's some tootin' homeless attitude, it's true.
	But even all the people gotta make do.
	And if you live long enough, it's happening to you.
	Sooner or later, everybody poop.
	They're pooping on the street.
	You have to touch the poop.
	Death and taxes and everybody moves.
	Death and taxes and everybody moves.
	Touching poop.
	You're pooping on the street.
	California has turned into a third world country.
	It's a poop map in San Francisco.
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	Hugh Hefner just dropped dead.
	There's unanswered questions about this.
	Nashville causes, but I'm wondering whether he died in the saddle, which I'm sure was his goal.
	Did he die in the saddle, A, which has not been answered, and if he died in the saddle, who killed it?
	We could create a site and write an article about how he died in the saddle.
	Do it for Hef.
	Do it for Hef.
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