When there's blood on the moon, death lurks in the shadows.
It was a western.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, May 11th, 2017, and this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 9028!
This is No Agenda.
Reading through pink slips so you don't have to.
And broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the United here in the capital of the throne, star state, in the concludio of the common law condo in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where there's no time like the present, I'm John C. Dvorak.
That's right.
Now is the time for all good men to come together.
So I turned on the machine.
Which machine?
Oh, your podcast machine?
The podcasting machine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Windows 10.
The big sign comes up.
Windows 10.
Oh, Windows 10.
New Windows features are almost here.
Oh.
They're almost here.
What does that mean?
Are they shipping them?
I don't know.
It just says they're almost here.
We're preparing a new update for your machine.
They just updated it today.
Ooh.
Great new features are coming with this update, such as Paint 3D. Waiting for that.
More inking capabilities and 4K gaming.
4K gaming.
And then it says, we've heard your feedback.
I haven't written them.
With Windows 10 Creators Update, we have more control over your privacy settings.
It says, let's get started by reviewing your privacy settings.
And there's a button that says Review Settings.
I'm going to push it.
Boom.
Uh-oh.
No.
You might not want to do this on the show.
This could be dangerous.
You're worried sick.
So these, I wanted to push because I wanted to see what the defaults were because they have them all laid out here.
And here's what the defaults are.
Okay.
Okay.
One, two, three, four, five of them.
These are defaults for what?
For Windows 10?
Yeah.
Now, is this going to be helpful for anyone else in the world?
Yeah.
Okay.
Because I'm going to tell you what to do.
Ah, here we go.
Number one, location.
Turn to on.
It's on.
Oh, that's a default?
Yeah, it's defaulted to on, so they're just spying on you, whatever you do.
No, that's to improve your experience.
Yeah.
It says it helps to improve location services.
So you go to it and you go off.
Oh!
Now it's off.
Okay.
Speech recognition is off.
Yeah, because otherwise your microphone is on the whole time.
Yeah, it's okay.
So that's good.
That's a good thing.
Diagnostics.
Help us find and improve Windows services and products.
Send diagnostic data, including browser history.
And all dick pics.
Yeah, there we go.
Okay.
It says full, click, basic.
It won't even turn it off.
Basic?
Yeah, now it's from basic to full.
In other words, they're stealing certain things.
Oh, so you can't even turn it all the way off.
You can only send basic or the dick pics.
One of the two.
Number four, tailored experiences with diagnostics data.
Ooh, tailored experience.
Get more relevant tips and recommendations to tailor Microsoft products and services to your needs.
And can you turn that off?
Microsoft use your data to make this work.
That's defaulted to on.
You click off.
Okay, good.
Off.
Last.
Good man.
Good man.
Last.
Relevant ads.
Oh, yes, of course.
I want relevant ads.
I like shopping.
Can this be a part of my experience?
Advertising ID to make ads more interesting to you based on your app usage.
That's not the same as more relevant.
No, it's not the same at all.
And it's defaulted upon...
But wait a minute.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Is this only for your browsing?
Or does Microsoft just have ads pop up in their system?
Here, let me set my screensaver.
And you get an ad.
System-wide.
Relevant ads turn it off.
Now it says, the number of ads you see won't change.
But in other words, you're an idiot.
The number of ads won't change.
But does it say where these ads will...
But they may be less relevant to you.
I don't know where these go.
I'm just going to hit accept and kill all that stuff.
Boom.
Less relevant to you.
I have to reboot?
No.
Oh, it says, thank you.
We'll handle the update from here.
Oh, don't worry about it.
We got you covered, Browsef.
Okay, John.
Great.
That was a great lesson in why I have a Mac.
This is why I have a Mac.
Yeah.
Except it's all on permanently.
They got all that crap in there.
Of course they do.
But not the advertising stuff.
They tried that.
They failed.
They tried that in iOS.
They tried to sell...
Remember that?
Apple ads or whatever?
Yeah.
We have the inventory.
No, you don't.
Anyway.
Well, this looks like some news this week.
Yeah, that was kind of fun, really.
This was...
I didn't expect this one.
I liked it.
I didn't mind it, but I was very disappointed by the fact that it so overtook the news cycle that you had to really go overseas to get anything other than just...
Oh, no kidding.
And it was really...
To me, it was just fun to watch the meltdowns and people freaking out.
CNN was...
It was just pure entertainment to watch.
Really beautiful.
I'm sure you didn't watch any of it.
I watched quite a bit of it.
Oh, you watched CNN? Because I couldn't get around it, and I had a lot of the stuff set to pre-record.
Ah, okay.
So I ended up with a bunch of stuff I didn't want.
Well, can I give you just a couple things here?
Because what happened here?
Now, of course, we're talking about FBI Director Comey being fired.
What was so fabulous to watch is the Dimension A people really hated Comey for making Hillary lose.
And then when he got fired, everyone went, yay!
You got your dimensions mixed up again.
Not B, I mean B. Yes, B. B for bot, A for Adam.
I remember now.
So B, everyone went, yeah, he's fine.
Wait, good.
Wait, could someone please tell us?
Tell us what to do and how to feel.
That's really what happened.
People had to be told how to feel about this.
And this was witnessed nowhere better, really, than Stephen Colbert.
I'm not going to play the clip that has been out there just on and on and on.
Oh, look!
That's where Stephen Colbert said, FBI director got fired.
The whole audience goes, yay!
And then he's like, wait, don't you hate him?
Don't you understand why he's not?
Come on!
No, he's investigating Trump or Putin!
Then everyone goes, oh yeah, that's right, boo!
But it really took the oracle had to come in.
That's right.
Jon Stewart had to come in to tell everybody how stupid they really are.
You know that James Comey was fired by Trump, right?
What?
I got a question for the audience.
When I said that Comey had been fired by Trump, y'all cheered.
Why?
Is it because what he did to Hillary?
Yeah!
Screw him!
He's investigating Trump's campaign's ties to Russia, which now will evaporate like cotton candy in the ocean.
You know what you got?
Boo!
I mean boo!
That was like a beginner surfer's class, where they were like, I'm standing up!
Oh no, wait!
Oh no, now I'm on my knees!
Hold on!
Because it was.
I hate that guy, I love that guy, but Trump did it, and they didn't know how to feel, and it was interesting to watch.
Well, listen, you live on a farm now, okay?
So there it is.
It was interesting to see you people did everything wrong!
This is not how it works!
It's just great to see late-night comedians are controlling the messaging for Dimension B. It is.
Jimmy Kimmel with the American Health Care Act, he's controlling the messaging and reference as such.
Yeah.
I mean, it's just beautiful.
But anyway, so this news came through and Jeffrey Toobin, Toobin, on CNN, who is a, he's a constitutional lawyer, I think.
We've discussed this in the past.
I think he is.
Well, every lawyer should be a constitutional lawyer, but he just lost his mind.
Can we point out that the emperor is not wearing any clothes?
Wow, how many times have we heard that in the past two years?
Do kids even read The Emperor Has No Clothes anymore?
No, just the reference is lost.
I was curious about that.
The Midas references are lost, too.
Of the Midas touch?
Yeah.
Well, that was lost even in my youth, but this Emperor Has No Clothes, yeah, I don't think kids know what this means anymore.
I don't think the books, well, we should check that.
This memo from Rod Rosenstein says that James Comey was fired for being too mean to Hillary Clinton?
Does anyone believe that?
Could anyone believe that?
I mean, it's just absurd.
I mean, suddenly, here it is in May of 2017.
Factually, that's not what the Rosenstein memo says.
It doesn't say you were too mean.
No, it doesn't say that at all.
What's he talking about?
That's his interpretation.
He's a lawyer.
You can't question the constitutional lawyer.
In May of 2017, that he's being fired for a press conference that he held in July of 2016?
No.
I mean, this is just the most preposterous pretext.
This is an investigator who is investigating the White House.
Hmm.
And he was just fired by the White House.
This doesn't happen in the United States except on October 20, 1973, when Richard Nixon filed Archibald Cox.
And if anyone thinks that a new FBI director is going to come in and the agency will just take over and continue their investigation as if this had never happened, That's not how it works.
They will put in a stooge who will shut down this investigation.
This is my favorite part.
So already he's made up in his mind that it is because Comey was mean to Clinton, whereas the letter very specifically states that he did things that are expressly forbidden by the FBI protocol.
And there's something hidden in there which is not discussed, which we'll get to in a moment.
They are in charge.
And now it's like, oh, well, of course he'll put a stooge in.
We'll put a stooge in.
Stooge!
Political people are in charge of the FBI, not the street agents.
The street agents do what they're told.
And now Donald Trump will put in maybe Chris Christie, someone who will do his bidding.
That's the part I love.
That would be great.
By the way, he does know, of course, that the investigation of the Russian connection is being handled by the Comey's the second guy, the deputy.
Yeah, the second in command.
He's the guy doing it.
He's not Comey.
Comey is a bureaucrat.
He's a technocrat.
He's a manager.
He's not the guy doing it.
He doesn't do investigations.
He's not an FBI agent.
No.
That's okay.
Well, hold on.
I'm going to top that.
I have a follow-up, then you can top me.
You know how I love being bottomed.
Listen.
Toobin now, in the same conversation with a Trump stooge, I think, former Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli, who I've never seen before on CNN. Do you know this guy?
No.
I've heard of him, actually.
Well, he seems like a Trump operative, and he argues exactly that about the FBI. It just shows that he knows he's under investigation, yet he's firing this guy anyway.
It's not normal, and it's not American.
Yeah, I disagree.
I'm completely on the other side of the coin.
Here we have an investigation that is proceeding.
Everything that happens in this investigation tomorrow is going to be the same in spite of the removal of the director of the FBI. Because the professionals who handle this day-to-day are going to keep handling it day-to-day.
They're not going to all go into their office and start sucking their thumb.
How do you know that?
Oh, come on, it's ridiculous.
This doesn't stop anything.
All the grand jury subpoenas go out.
The work and pursuit of those will continue just as it has before.
So why is there a head of the FBI if the guy doesn't matter at all?
They just sort of operate on automatic pilot?
The whole agency operates day to day, a whole set of career professionals who carry these investigations and are responsible for them day to day.
Who tells them what to investigate?
You know, once in a while, one of them dies.
I've never worked at a company in his life.
Did you hear that last bit?
That's funny because Tubin's face was fantastic.
Investigations and are responsible for them day to day.
Who tells them what to investigate?
You know, once in a while, one of them die.
And they replace them.
And lo and behold, the investigation goes on.
And Tubin went...
Someone dies?
It was beautiful to watch.
Just heads exploding.
Yes?
Give me the Maxine Waters jingle.
Oh, my God.
Well, you're going to usurp.
I have the jingle.
I have the same clip, obviously.
And now you're going to think that by slipping it in now, you're going to top me, whereas I have the exact same clip?
First come, first serve.
Bullcrap!
Maxine Waters, keep on trolling.
California shills, won't you keep on whining with me?
Scumbags!
All right.
and here it is.
Okay, the clip I have, of course.
You're not getting Clip of the Day because I have the clip.
I'm not expecting Clip of the Day.
I was.
Maxine Waters, it is Maxine MSNBC, not the bonus clip.
I understand.
No, it's classified and we can't tell you anything.
All I can tell you is the FBI Director has no credibility.
That was Congresswoman Maxine Waters criticizing now former FBI Director James Comey after a closed briefing on Russia's interference in the U.S. election.
It took place just one week before the President took office here at the White House.
For more, I want to bring in the Congresswoman herself, Maxine Waters, who is joining me now.
Congresswoman, we appreciate your time.
You obviously have been very critical of James Comey in the past.
You said that he had no credibility.
I assume that you support the president's decision then to fire his FBI director.
And you might want to mention this was on MSNBC. This was the best part.
I was totally stunned by this.
It was the best part about it.
And not only that, but the guy was relentless at ridiculing her.
I loved it.
No, I do not necessarily support the president's decision.
If the president had not gone all over the country praising him about the way he handled Hillary and the emails, if the president said he had confidence in him, if the president had not said he was a part of his team, But Congresswoman, I understand that in the past he was praising him, but if you said that FBI Director James Comey had no credibility, wouldn't you support the fact that the president, then-candidate Trump, now President Trump made the decision to get rid of him?
No, no, not necessarily.
And let me tell you why.
You have an investigation going on where the president is implicated.
And this is a serious investigation.
I've been trying to get people to focus on this connection with the Kremlin and with Putin.
I have a resolution that I introduced in February.
I think there's enough there that we know about the Kremlin and about Putin to be concerned about whether or not there was collusion.
I believe it was, and I believe that they should have to connect the dots and get the facts because I think it will lead to the impeachment of this president.
So, Congresswoman, respecting that, to be clear, you believe it would have been better to keep in place an FBI director who you said had no credibility to oversee this investigation than to find someone who you think would be a better choice?
No, but I believe the president thought that.
Don't forget, you're talking about what some Democrats said, what I said, but don't forget, he was the president.
The president supported him.
He had confidence in him.
It was within his power.
Well, you said he had no credibility, so it would seem to make sense that he should get rid of him.
No, no, no, no.
Under investigation.
No, no, no.
This president basically has interfered with an investigation where he may be implicated.
That's outrageous, and that's why we're having so much of a conversation about it today.
Everybody is talking about it, because this is highly unusual.
The bottom line is that you think an FBI director without credibility would have been best served in this position to try to pursue this investigation.
I think if the president had fired him when he first came in, he would not have to be in a position now where he's trying to make up a story about why.
It does not meet the smell test.
The smell test.
Wait!
Watch out!
Her head's exploding!
My millennials!
Stay woke!
Ew!
That's pieces of her head.
I think that she...
I don't think she even knows that she is being ridiculed.
I think it's racist.
I think MSNBC is racist.
Well, yeah, that's possible.
Hey, you're black and you must be stupid.
Yeah.
That's kind of what it's saying.
She is a sucker to come out.
Camera time.
She's a camera.
She's a media whore.
She'll come on at the drop of a hat.
She doesn't get invited on enough as far as she's concerned.
And say whatever she's going to say.
And it's all convoluted.
She's never been the brightest bulb in the Congress.
And her head is gone.
And she thinks that she's going to be president or has a shot at it.
Yeah, of course.
See, I'm going to give us a shared clip of the day for that, because we both...
Come on, we can do it.
Clip of the day.
It's too beautiful.
Too beautiful.
It's very funny.
What's your bonus clip?
The bonus is that it goes on a little bit longer, but there's another...
He does it again.
He pulls a quick one to show that it's her logic.
She has no logic.
Understood.
So if Hillary Clinton had won the White House, would you have recommended that she fire FBI Director James Comey?
Well, let me tell you something.
If she had won the White House, I believe that given what he did to her and what he tried to do, she should have fired him.
Yes.
So she should have fired him, but he shouldn't have fired him.
This is why I'm confused.
No, you're not confused.
No, you're not confused.
Yeah, we are kind of.
Just a little bit.
We're not racist.
Well, we're ready for her presidency, that's for sure.
By the way, there's two firings.
We've been fired twice on this so far.
I know, it's good.
Now, I do have one little clip that I think is kind of meaningful as a backgrounder, besides the backgrounders themselves.
And this is the one from PBS. Tim Kaine's also pretty funny.
Hopefully, the problem is there's too many clips about Comey.
Yeah, but I got some new shit that's come to light, bro.
Yeah, I know.
I expect you to do something like that.
Overview Rundown Comey PBS? Is that the one you're looking for?
This is the...
Well, actually, we might as well play that's the rundown and I can find the rest of it.
Since this is only the...
Oh, that was, by the way...
What was that?
What was that?
That was Judy smacking her lips.
Lip smacking?
Nice.
Edit.
I like it.
Since this is...
It's a Tourette's thing.
Let me see if I can make it work.
No, it doesn't work that way.
Okay.
Since this is only the second time a U.S. president has fired the head of the FBI, the initial shockwaves from Mr.
Trump's stunning move left awake of questions and condemnations from across the political spectrum.
William Brangham begins with where we are now and how we got here.
He wasn't doing a good job, very simply.
He was not doing a good job.
That was it.
President Trump's verdict this morning over his firing of FBI Director James Comey.
The President's termination letter to Comey yesterday said the move was necessary to restore public trust in the agency.
An attachment from the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein faulted Comey's handling of the Hillary Clinton email investigation.
White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders gave more detail today.
Frankly, he'd been considering letting Director Comey go since the day he was elected.
I think that Director Comey has shown over the last several months and frankly the last year a lot of missteps and mistakes.
In a tweet this morning, the president said, Comey lost the confidence of almost everyone in Washington, Republican and Democrat alike.
When things calm down, they will be thanking me.
But little was calm on the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue today.
Vice President Mike Pence was on Capitol Hill and offered a longer defense of the president's decision.
President Trump provided the kind of strong and decisive leadership the American people have come to be accustomed from him.
And he took the action necessary to remove Director Comey.
And that's why this was the right decision at the right time.
Meanwhile, senators face non-stop questions about what Comey's firing means for the ongoing probes into Russia's meddling in the election and whether the Trump campaign colluded in that meddling.
Democrats said the firing would lead Americans to suspect a cover-up And they repeated calls for a special counsel.
But Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said that would be counterproductive.
Today we'll no doubt hear calls for a new investigation, which could only serve to impede the current work being done to not only discover what the Russians may have done, also to let this body and the national security community develop countermeasures.
Minority Leader Chuck Schumer questioned the president's timing.
Why did it happen last night?
We know Director Comey was leading an investigation in whether the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians.
A serious offense.
Oh, it is so very serious.
I do want to mention one thing, which is that this is payback.
For the Clinton special prosecutor, Kevin Starr.
I'm glad you brought that up.
It's a little bit out of sequence.
But it's his payback, which led to a witch hunt, which led to the Monica Lewinsky scandal, which led to the impeachment.
It had nothing to do with what they were looking at, which was whitewater, I believe, and some other crazy...
Whitewater.
It was whitewater.
And cattle.
Cattle futures.
And the cattle thing.
And you know that that's what these things...
The guy's got the job as special prosecutor and he just wants to build up his budget and keep his job so that it becomes a witch hunt.
It goes for everything, of course.
And that's what they're trying to do here.
It's not like we haven't been predicting this for a couple months.
Right, no.
Which is exactly what we've been predicting.
The clip I wanted to get in here before we went any further is this particular clip because it does bring out an issue that I think is floating around...
Kind of as a subtext.
Right.
This is the DW sub-take on Comey Aspen guy.
Explain a decision that had caught them off guard as well.
But we have to remind people it is within the president's authority to fire the FBI director, isn't it?
According to the law, that is the case.
But the norms have been set over, frankly, over a century now.
The first director of the FBI, J. Edgar Hoover, who was there for a long time, notoriously had a very difficult relationship with several presidents.
That's right.
The director position is a 10-year term position, and the reason it's established that way is to maintain the integrity and independence of the FBI as a law enforcement agency.
Okay.
No, no, that's bullcrap.
The 10 years was not to maintain any sort of integrity.
The 10 years was to limit the term.
Exactly.
And they extended Mueller.
Mueller got extended, which was very, very scary.
And he mentions the firing is legal because it is.
So, okay, there's no illegal activity here.
And then he mentions J. Edgar Hoover as an example of presidents who didn't like him.
He was blackmailing everybody.
Yes, he was.
J. Edgar Hoover was a blackmailer.
The FBI does not have a very clean record.
And so the 10-year thing was put in place to prevent another blackmailer from coming in and staying too long.
And what was scary about Mueller is he was the guy that came in just a few months before 9-11, obviously knew something and therefore was extended through Obama, if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, he got extended.
And so the idea of the 10 years for some consistency, that's bull crap.
That is total bull crap.
And this guy, this is in Deutsche Welle, this is in Berlin.
This guy apparently is out of the Aspen Institute offices in Berlin.
Yeah, there you go.
The Aspen Institute, which is a spooky operation out of Aspen, Colorado, run by the guy who wrote the Steve Jobs book.
Isaacson.
Ah, oh really?
And the whole thing is fishy.
And why is this guy all of a sudden an expert?
And then defending the FBI, J. Edgar Hoover, this is kind of a bullshit thing that people need to be reminded of.
The 10 years was not to maintain anything, it was to prevent something from happening again.
And this has sparked a whole bunch of reaction, a lot of comparisons to Watergate, you know, just pulling in everything possible.
Bernstein of Woodward and Bernstein, as we know, he's now making money through CNN and apparently some agency...
Let's get to basics, and that is that this is a terribly dangerous moment in American history.
The President of the United States has repeatedly made clear he does not want a legitimate investigation into the possible collusion of his aides and campaign With a hostile power.
This is unprecedented in our history.
A president who himself has attempted to impede the legitimate investigation of essentially looking into whether or not people around him and perhaps himself have colluded in some way with the enemy.
With the enemy.
And I heard a lot on MSNBC, you know, we were attacked by Russia.
They struck us.
We were attacked.
Attacked.
And Rachel Maddow could not find any.
Well, Pelosi said that it was, you know, she tried to say, is this an act of war?
Yes.
Rachel Maddow was so beside herself with glee.
She says, unprecedented!
And then, of course, she had a whole bunch of examples of precedence, which was funny.
I've been seeing live images of a plane sitting on a tarmac.
This was great.
This was like OJ, almost.
So they have a helicopter shot of Comey's Gulfstream, the agency Gulfstream, whoever it is, taxiing down the taxiway to line up and to take off.
And Rachel Maddow was narrating it.
Now moving down a taxiway in Los Angeles.
This is a private plane of some kind.
It's not unusual for federal agencies.
Now she's an aviation expert.
Big ones like the Department of Justice or the FBI to have private planes at their disposal.
Director Comey was in Los Angeles for I think what was supposed to be a recruiting event today, an event that was canceled.
There was some logistical question once he was fired today by the White House as to what would physically happen to him in the immediate aftermath of his firing.
He would be taken away in handcuffs.
This is what Trump is about, the dictator.
He was removed effective immediately, so right now he is no longer the director of the FBI. But he's still on that private plane.
But we believe that Director Comey is on that plane, which is now taxiing down the runway in Los Angeles.
Presumably, that will be flying back to the East Coast.
Presumably, FBI headquarters are in Washington.
He will be heading back to Washington.
Oh, man.
She's doing the whole travel itinerary.
This is riveting.
But all of this It's unscripted at this point.
It's unscripted.
It's unscripted, John.
Oh, it's crazy because everything should be scripted in government.
We're heading back to Washington.
But all of this is unscripted at this point.
All of this is unprecedented.
There are historical parallels to what happened today, but there has never been anything like this before.
There's been one instance previously in U.S. history in which an FBI director has been fired by a U.S. president.
That was a very different circumstance.
It was President Bill Clinton at the time, the FBI director who was fired.
Did she even circumvents the whole Nixon thing?
It's very interesting.
It was William Sessions.
There were, in effect, abuse of office concerns that had been documented against him by the Department of Justice.
Things like using a Department of Justice aircraft to fly to see his family.
Now, you see, she's just confusing so many things.
Completely unhinged, I think, is the term we'd like to use.
She's unhinged!
Unhinged.
Now, here is something really nice that I picked up.
Let me see if I have this here.
Yeah.
Kellyanne Conway came on with the Cuomo Kid on CNN. And Cuomo, you know, is just raking her over the coals.
Of course, it's fun to do.
I thought she was persona non grata.
Oh, but now if we get to pull her apart, it's fun.
But what happened?
Because I decided I wanted to...
She started to say something about how the news business worked and having videos go viral.
So I was like, oh, I got to listen.
You know, she often lets things slip.
That I think she doesn't mean to.
And there was one small news story that came out just before the firing.
After the last show, in between the last show and the firing, there was this little news story that Comey had directed the FBI to go back and change the record of his statement to, was it Senate or Congress?
I don't remember who he was talking to.
Where he said, oh no, you know, Huma Abedin, no, no poor intent there to, you know, the hundreds of thousands of emails, hundreds or thousands I think is what he said, emails that were sent to Anthony Weiner, you know, that was just a mistake.
And apparently that information was factually incorrect.
And this is what no one is talking about, but Kellyanne lets a slip in this interview.
Look, what I want is the truth.
That's all we should all want here.
And the idea that you should know the fruit of the investigation these many months in is naive and deceptive.
People who have been around these investigations will tell you they take time.
Those who are doing it on the Senate and House side say they take time.
You've been misrepresenting the White House, what James Clapper said.
You see, she's talking about, and I couldn't figure out what she was saying.
So this is why I started to listen to her.
You've been misrepresenting the White House, what James Clapper said, when he said he had seen no collusion.
Can you stop for a second?
Yeah, of course.
Does she get a word in ever, or is he just going to put somebody on the screen and just start yelling at him?
He's the host.
When did the host become an advocate?
Kellyanne will say exactly this in not the same words.
Misrepresenting the White House, what James Clapper said, when he said he had seen no collusion proof, that's accurate.
But he also said it's because he didn't know anything about the investigation.
Comey had been quiet about it.
He wasn't privy to the record.
He doesn't know the facts.
See, that's very different.
You don't like that part because you want, as the president says, for this to be a hoax.
I get it.
And that's why Comey being ousted just when that is heating up.
Not back when he started his tenure.
He didn't need anybody to tell him that Comey had been divisive within the agency.
He knew all that.
You want me to ask some questions?
Because you're giving all the answers.
Kellyanne, I've got to check what you're saying.
I've got to check what you're saying.
Check false.
Kellyanne, I've got to check what you're saying.
I've got to provide the context for it because you're creating an image that doesn't reveal itself in fact.
Let me know when I can answer.
Knock yourself out.
Oh, what a dick.
Knock yourself out.
She had an interesting comeback.
Creating an image that doesn't reveal itself in fact.
Let me know when I can answer.
Knock yourself out.
Well, I'm going to knock this out of the park.
I'm knocking out of the park on your ass, Cuomo.
All right, now listen carefully.
Knock yourself out.
Well, I'm going to knock this out of the park by telling you that I'm sure it'll go viral now that you use the words naive and deceptive people think you use those words about me, although you were talking about a state of mind.
I'm talking about...
This was interesting to me, that she accuses him.
The whole conversation, she doesn't care.
She accuses him.
Of using the words naive and deceptive, and she claims that this is the new thing in the news business, is to cut up the video.
So it sounds like, so the viral headline would be, Cuomo calls Kellyanne naive and deceptive.
And that would go viral.
And she's claiming this is the new way that news works.
That was interesting to me, and then of course then I heard more.
Use those words about me, although you were talking about a state of mind.
I'm talking about this narrative coming out of the White House.
That's the new thing to try to go viral.
But here's those of us who do want the truth.
The idea that you think that this was about Russia and not about an FBI director who just yesterday forced his bureau to correct sworn testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee where he said Huma Abedin had this practice.
She had forwarded, quote, hundreds of thousands of emails.
So President Trump was so upset that James Comey was unfair to Huma Abedin that he fired him.
No, President Trump wants an FBI director who is impartial, who's not politicized, and who has the confidence and the trust of people in the Bureau, of Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill, of the Attorney General, of the Deputy Attorney General who oversees the FBI director, and of the President of the United States.
And why didn't he do it in January?
And he had lost that.
So what I'm seeing, I think there's an internal issue.
Remember, it is the FBI in New York City who have the emails.
It all came down with those guys, and I think Giuliani is involved in all of that.
I think what happened is Comey tried to dust that away.
He got called on it because he said something wrong, which he probably didn't even intend to do.
But there's something about the Huma Abedin emails which is really not kosher.
And Kellyanne let that slip.
There's another little tidbit you missed here.
Oh, what did I miss?
The guy makes, and this is part of the narrative, well, in fact, Maxine Waters uses it.
Well, nothing's changed.
Why didn't he fire him when he got in office?
Because he didn't have the deputy confirmed yet.
Exactly, because she says, or he says, well, no, she says in this case, that the Deputy Attorney General is the one who oversees the director of the FBI. The guy's only been in office for two weeks.
Yeah, he had to wait for him to get confirmed.
He's getting his feet wet.
He gets in office two weeks later.
He says, this guy's got to go, and fires him.
Yeah, exactly.
So does anybody take a look at that and say, well, maybe that's the reason he wasn't fired right away?
No, and there's a lot of Hush-hush about Uma's emails.
No one is talking about that.
But there's something big going on with those emails and it goes beyond the stuff going on, for sure.
I mean, she lets this slip and no one else is talking about it.
And even Cuomo doesn't dive into it.
No, he doesn't care.
Now, Comey, I just want to reiterate, we've always been thinking, what is up with this Comey guy?
If we're just going to talk circumstantial evidence, as everyone does, please remember he was on the board of HSBC, the notorious money laundering bank.
He was on the board to help fix, he's a fixer, to help fix this issue with HSBC. And they also do all the Clinton Foundation money.
These guys are not kosher.
I always thought Comey kind of knew what was going on there.
He's like, oh, keep an eye out.
And I thought maybe he was on Trump's side.
But it's possible that he was really there covering for Hillary all along.
It's impossible to figure this out.
It's a mess.
Yeah, it's a mess for sure.
But the one thing that I keep seeing over and over, which is very disconcerting, especially by now, is the CIA front people.
Yeah.
The spokesholes, mostly in the media, that are somehow not necessarily working on a payroll basis.
Many maybe, maybe as consultants, or somehow they're connected.
And they're all in a row saying the same thing, which leads me to believe there's something really wrong at the CIA because they're trying to keep – because what they don't want – I mean Trump put a new person in there.
But there must be something big going on there that they're trying to get – stop, cover up or something.
It may have to do with – I don't know if you can find the story, but look at – see if you can find – search for the word warlord.
It was a clip that we didn't play, which I had.
Never got around to it.
But then one of the major, major warlords in Afghanistan came out of the woodwork and is now demanding that the United States leave the country.
Thousands of Afghans turned out today to hail the return of a former warlord to Kabul.
Gulbuddin Hekmatyar responded with a demand that U.S. and other outside forces leave Afghanistan.
He rallied the crowd with a call for peace with the Taliban, and he criticized the Afghan government for its cooperation with the U.S. Let's all end this war together in our country first and tell the foreign forces that Afghans are able to sort out their issues themselves and that we want them to leave Afghanistan.
No one has any justification for the presence of foreign troops.
The U.S. now has about 8,000 troops in Afghanistan.
Next week, the Pentagon is widely expected to recommend sending more troops.
Now...
I think at this point, I mean, there's been a movie about this, about the Vietnam War and the movement of heroin into this country, coordinated by one of the intelligence agencies.
And then we had Iran-Contra.
We had Iran-Contra, which was a minor compared to what's going on now.
And now we have this opium epidemic in this country.
Gee!
If it ever got out, I mean, with some proof, instead of two guys speculating, based on, you know, well, it's...
American Gangster, that was the...
American Gangster is an excellent, true movie.
And if it got out with the epidemic that we have and all the deaths that we've been having with overdoses in this country, that the CIA was responsible for it in any way, shape, or form because they're using it as a Theoretically, is there a way of getting a lot of black money that they can spend on other things, including controlling the media?
It would be a disaster.
You're absolutely right, and it is so analogous to Iran-Contra on a different scale, I agree.
The CIA was selling drugs.
The way they did it is they created crack cocaine, sold it mainly to poor neighborhoods.
Right.
Gary Webb got killed over this.
So that was 35, 40 years ago.
It'll take 35, 40 years, and then we'll learn, hey, remember the big heroin epidemic when kids were dropping dead?
Yeah, it was the CIA bringing that shit in so they could get their funding for whatever other things they were up to.
Yes.
Ding.
There was a very beautiful...
And by the way, I'd like to just point out how slick we were just there a minute ago.
Oh yeah, no.
You do this too often.
Never mind.
That's okay.
I take it back.
Condoleezza Rice was on The View.
And you don't have to groan because it was really interesting in that she did not, and she's promoting a book, then maybe she's promoting herself.
It goes hand in hand.
And, of course, this is right after Comey got fired.
And she's asked a series of questions.
And none of the answers are what The View wants to hear.
So they just keep asking questions.
And no one's like, oh, really?
No, none of that.
And so it kind of starts with Flynn.
And, you know, how could they have not known?
We saw Polly Yates say that she told everybody, don't hire this guy.
Get rid of him.
He's horrible.
How?
How do you make somebody heed a warning that they may not want to hear?
Well, let me just say, I've been in Washington, and a lot of times you say, oh, I told them this, I told them that.
I don't know what those conversations were really like, so I'm not going to go there.
I'm just going to tell you this.
Michael Flynn is gone.
Yes.
And H.R. McMaster is as good as you can do for National Security Advisor.
And so Americans ought to be comforted.
Wait a minute.
By the character of the person who's there.
This is one of the most decorated and best generals of his generation.
Isn't he having trouble with Trump though right now?
Not that I can see.
Well, damn it, they'd say something right.
I think this is a really good national security team.
Look, we have a different kind of president, all right?
He's different.
That's a great way to put it.
He had never been in government before.
And when you haven't been in government before, sometimes it looks kind of easy in there until you get in there.
And when he said, you know, this job's a lot harder than I thought.
Oh, yes, this is where we get a punchline.
Oh, what an idiot.
He didn't know it was going to be much harder.
Nope.
When he said, you know, this job's a lot harder than I thought, I actually kind of felt bad for him because it is a really good job.
What?
Did you feel bad for him?
We got problems here with this guest.
Yes, get rid of her.
No, no, no.
We just keep asking until we can get a punchline.
I felt bad for him, because it is a really hard job, and it's a lonely job.
And you want people around you who you trust.
So they've done well.
Rex Tillerson is a really good Secretary of State, and Jim Mattis is a great Secretary of Defense.
And they've got some really tough problems, as you were just saying at the beginning, you know, when you're dealing with a North Korean leader who is, let's just say, reckless.
He might even be unhinged.
Oh, yes!
Unhinged!
Yeah, and he...
We've got to do that more in unison.
Hold on.
We've got to get better at that, because this word is not going away.
Let's just say reckless.
He might even be unhinged.
Unhinged!
Unhinged!
Come on, you were late.
Come on, let's try it again.
You know, hold on.
You have to...
What are we going to do?
A two beat?
What are you going to do?
Just as soon as they say unhinged, you say it on top of them?
One beat, and I'll do two, and we'll sync up.
Okay, we'll try it.
A leader who is, let's just say reckless.
He might even be unhinged.
Unhinged!
Close enough.
And he is getting better with nuclear weapons.
He's getting longer in his ranges to perhaps one day reach the United States.
I don't care who you are as president.
That's a scary proposition.
You take it seriously.
Yeah, okay.
So, oh, this guest is starting to suck.
Okay.
Let's talk about Flynn, then, because we all know he's in the pocket of the Russians!
Well, Madam Secretary, it's been alleged that weeks before President Trump's inauguration, Flynn discussed American sanctions against Russia, as well as other areas, perhaps, of possible cooperation with the Russian ambassador.
This, by the way, is not proven.
This is all just assertions.
You know, this is not a fact by any means.
Release the transcript so we can get it over with.
Why don't they do that?
Because it's not in there, I presume.
...with the Russian ambassador.
As someone who has had that position as national security advisor, would you have felt comfortable at that time before the inauguration having those conversations, or is that inappropriate?
Oh, goody.
Now we're going to get him.
Well, let me make a distinction here, because when you are the national security advisor-elect, in other words, your guy's been elected, but you've not yet been inaugurated, you will have conversations with foreigners.
What?
They want to meet you, they want to establish a relationship.
The thing you shouldn't do is to talk about policy, suggest that you might be changing the policy of the administration, because there's only one president at a time.
Until your president, until the new president is sworn in, the president who is there gets to make policy.
So I don't know what Michael Flynn did or did not say.
Nor does anyone there on The View.
I'll just say that as a matter of principle, you can talk to anybody in that period, but you should never suggest that you might be making changes in policy and maybe they should just wait until there's a change in administration.
I don't know whether he did or did not, but the principle is you wouldn't do that.
Hey, Gene, this is clearly a dead end.
Try Tillerson.
Try the oil guy.
Maybe she'll have something to say about the oil guy.
Exxon.
Tillerson.
Tillerson.
So you mentioned Rex Tillerson, and you're a big fan of his.
I hear you now, and I've read that.
And he has the same job you had.
That's right.
Right.
But the difference between him and you, I think, is...
You're not a woman.
You're a woman?
That he has deep ties, business ties, to Russia.
And it seems as though we were talking this morning about all these people who are attached to Russia.
I mean, what do you make of all that attachment to Russia?
Well, if you're an oil man, the Russians have what people call good geology.
They've got a lot of oil.
And if you're an oil CEO, of course you're going to try to negotiate with Vladimir Putin to get rights to drill for that oil.
That's what you're going to do.
I think what you've seen, though, is that whatever Rex Tillerson's relationships may have been in Russia, he is acting on the basis of what the Russians are doing.
He did something I'm not sure I would have had the nerve to do.
He went to Moscow just before he's going to meet with Putin.
Wait a minute, but...
Now she thinks she's a hero?
I mean, this is crazy.
I'm not sure I would have had the nerve to do.
He went to Moscow just before he's going to meet with Putin and he says, well, the Russians were either incompetent or they were lying about the Syrian chemical weapons.
I thought, wow, that's rough.
I'm not sure I would have said that.
So he's acting on our behalf.
Oh, oh.
But isn't he acting on behalf of Exxon?
That can't be.
This makes no sense.
And now, Condoleezza Rice sticks the knife in the view and they can't even say anything.
I get that about him, but what about the rest of them?
The rest of them didn't work.
The other guys!
The other guys!
Just look at where relations are with the Russians.
I think we ought to be looking into what ties were there.
That makes perfectly good sense.
But I also want to say something about Vladimir Putin and interfering in our elections.
He has been trying to interfere in our elections and everybody else's for a very long time.
I love the girls in the background.
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
Yeah, it's true.
Fact.
Yeah, that's right.
Listen to them.
They're in the back.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Interfere in our elections and everybody else's for a very long time.
What cyber allows him to do is to do it more efficiently and more quickly.
But let's not deceive ourselves that the Russians haven't tried these tricks before.
They have.
Now, I would have said to the Russians, we know you did it, right?
At a time of our choosing, we will find a way to punish that behavior.
But Vladimir Putin is an eye for an eye kind of person.
And we questioned, or Secretary Clinton questioned the legitimacy of his election in 2012.
Now he's saying, now I'm going to question the legitimacy of your election by hacking into it and so forth.
So don't let him get the satisfaction of thinking that we don't believe our own elections to be legitimate.
So do you think that was a personal eye for an eye against Hillary Clinton?
I don't know what she said, but woo!
Yes, yes.
I think it was personal.
He likes to intimidate.
Madam Secretary, if he indeed did engage in these types of tactics in our election, then the very legitimacy of our election is an issue, isn't it?
No.
No.
And that's where I would...
Well, no.
This sucks.
Is it an issue, isn't it?
No.
First of all, I don't want to question his motives beyond he's an eye for an eye kind of person.
Secondly, I trust the people who voted in Wisconsin and Texas and Alabama and California to have voted on the basis of who they thought was best going to represent their interest.
And so I'm not going to question the legitimacy of their vote because Vladimir Putin tried to interfere in the elections.
That's just a step that I don't think we should take.
Let's trust our fellow citizens to have been smart enough to vote for the people that they thought they ought to be voting for.
This is a moment of freshness and clarity on The View.
Oh my goodness.
It'll be the last you'll ever see of her.
Well, interestingly, now she's on a tour.
She's going to many different outlets.
And this was on...
Let me see.
I don't know where she was on.
But she slipped.
As good as she was on The View, she slipped.
Listen for the slip in this short clip about North Korea and South Korea.
The situation is going to be complicated further by what happened in South Korea in the elections, because by all reports, this is going to be a South Korean government that has a more favorable disposition toward the North Koreans, perhaps wants negotiations.
But we're going to have to say to that North Korean government, do you understand that with Missile defenses and the like, we would like to try to protect you, but don't even think about trying to end the isolation of the North Koreans because the American president will not tolerate the situation as it is.
What?
Yeah, she says...
She blotched two or three things in there.
Yeah.
She says, we're going to tell the North Koreans, as though she meant South Koreans, and then she's...
I don't know what the hell she was trying to do.
No, no, no.
What she's saying is...
She was scrambled.
Yes, the possible new leadership of South Korea will want to reunify.
And she's saying, we can't have that.
I mean, arms sales.
Crazy?
Exactly.
Well, here is...
This clip is New Moon.
It says Moon.
The guy's name is Moon.
There's only four names in Korea.
Park, Moon, Kim.
Yum, yum.
And the first name is the last name, so it's Park, Sun, and Moon.
Anyway, so this guy is probably related to the Moon guy.
But listen to this guy.
There's a report on him from Deutsche Welle.
All right, now to South Korea, where the new president says he is willing to visit North Korea to improve relations between...
The two countries.
The son of refugees who fled the north, the new leader advocates a less confrontational approach towards Pyongyang.
That's one of several challenges facing him already on his first day in office.
This is South Korea's new president, Moon Jae-in, former human rights lawyer and a liberal, taking over after a decade of conservative rule.
His inbox is full and given recent high tensions with North Korea, perhaps the most urgent task is to set a new tone with Pyongyang.
He says he's ready to go wherever necessary.
I will urgently try to solve the security crisis.
I'll be always on the move for peace in the Korean Peninsula.
If necessary, I will fly straight to Washington.
I will go to Beijing and Tokyo, and if the conditions allow, to Pyongyang as well.
Exactly.
Oh, we can't have any of this.
No, we can't.
I don't know what's going to happen.
It's not good.
I just got a clip in it.
It would be kind of dangerous just to play it, but we could.
Apparently, Condoleezza's take on killing Kim Jong-un.
Should we give it a shot?
I think you make a really good point about what China may or may not want.
I mean, if we were to see the regime, you know, go away or die, what does that mean for refugees?
Are they all going to flood into China?
In fact, they don't want that.
They don't want that, and that long border that they share would be, they believe, unstable.
But the alternative at this point is a North Korean regime that keeps going on the path that it's on, and that ultimately confronts an American president.
I don't know if it's A year from now, three years from now, five years from now, with having to use military force to deal with the capabilities in North Korea.
So I would say to the Chinese, nobody wants to take advantage of what might happen in North Korea, most especially the United States.
But you've got to get tougher with that regime.
I guess it was about the killing of him.
I don't know.
It was about nothing.
I'm sorry.
We tried.
Yeah, yeah.
But it is very interesting to see South and North Korea wanting to reunify.
And these are families that were split apart.
I mean, this is...
And the new guy, Moon, is from a North Korean family.
Yeah.
But we can't have this because then, well, it's more about China than about arms sales, but China is also about arms sales.
We can't have this happening.
So how are we going to do that?
We probably have to kill the new North Korean, the South Korean guy.
That's the only solution.
Because we need the evil kid.
Yeah, the evil kid's good.
The evil kid is awesome.
I got an Ask Adam.
It's still based on the Comey stuff.
Okay.
So I got this chatterbox that was on Charlie Rose.
Some journalist couldn't talk and she was stammering and everything.
She was bitching and moaning about the firing of Comey.
And at some point she mentioned something.
I said, no, no, no.
I stopped it because this is a perfect Ask Adam.
Massacre, you know, forcing out of...
During Watergate.
That's right.
The Watergate comparisons abound.
Renewed calls for a special prosecutor.
Representative Eric Swalwell of California, a Democrat, is on the House Intelligence Committee, saying this is not what an innocent person would do.
This is an abuse of power.
Shows a consciousness of guilt.
Pat Leahy, the senator from Vermont, says it's nothing less than Nixonian, so on and so forth.
And while most Republicans...
That we've heard from so far in these early, you know, hour or two since this has begun unfolding, have stood by the decision for Comey to go, saying he had been, you know, a lightning rod and contentious figure.
But one notable exception so far on the Republican side.
Ask Adam.
Ask Adam.
All right.
Let's see.
I'm ready.
What one notable exception on the Republican side would take the side of the Democrats in attacking Trump?
You got five seconds.
Lindsey Graham and or John McCain.
Pick one.
Lindsey Graham.
Ah!
Wrong!
No!
Damn it!
Damn it!
Do I get a booby prize?
I'll tell you, you gotta remember this one little precept.
Lindsey Graham...
Does what John McCain tells him to.
Oh, okay.
I think the reason why is because I remember seeing a Lindsey Graham clip somewhere.
I just thought maybe he was the one.
Yeah, there was a few.
Ah, damn it.
So it was McCain...
Yeah, play the answer.
But one notable exception so far on the Republican side, Senator John McCain, saying that while Trump has the power to do this, he's disappointed in President Trump and that this just underscores the need for a special congressional committee.
So while this certainly affects internally how the administration moves forward, it is like throwing gas on the fire in terms of the congressional reaction.
One point, which you just referred to, the president does have the authority to fire the FBI director for any reason.
Fire.
Fire.
This is not being emphasized very often on the normal news shows.
No, no, no.
Because it doesn't fit in with the narrative.
He got fired.
Did you see Lavrov?
Lavrov was with Rex Tillerson at the State Department?
Lavrov was just gloating, it seems to me.
Oh, this was beautiful.
So they come in just to say hi.
You know, the old clippity-clop place there.
The door's open.
They walk in.
And they're like, hey, everybody.
And then the reporter shouts, yo, what do you think about Comey getting fired?
And Lavrov does, what?
He gets fired?
What?
And then the CNN response is beautiful after that.
Thank you.
Does the Kony firing have the shadow of your talk?
The whiskey firing?
You're kidding.
What about the rocket and investigation?
Okay, a little Russian humor there.
I don't know if that was a joke or what.
That's the foreign minister.
He looked back at the reporters who were asking about the impact of James Comey's dismissal on this meeting, saying, you're kidding.
To me, he looked really surprised.
I'm sure he was.
What does he do?
That's all he's got to do is follow the machinations of who gets fired and who doesn't?
I mean, I think this is blown out of proportions.
This is a domestic thing to begin with.
This has nothing to do with international policy necessarily.
Wow.
Well, here's the one.
CBS was all over this, of course, with the, I'd say, the company...
Thesis and how it should go down.
And they sent Elizabeth Palmer to Sochi to talk with Putin because they could catch him in between matches.
He's playing hockey.
Ice hockey.
And so this is a...
Wait, wait, wait.
Hold on.
I didn't see this.
So is he wearing the big shoulder pads during the interview?
No.
With a jersey on?
He's coming off the ice with the big shoulder pads on.
Yeah, that's great.
And she's standing there in this kind of tunnel where the players are coming through as the game is over.
And is she wearing a parka?
Is she wearing a parka?
Yes, she's wearing a kind of a parka.
Yeah, okay, perfect.
And so she's there and he's skating off the ice.
What's missing is he doesn't skate up to her at high speeds and then stop and kick ice at her.
He doesn't do that.
But he skates off and he comes up and she starts asking him questions.
He just almost instantly answers the question because he understands English very well.
But the translator stops him and makes him slow down so he could ask the question in Russian through the translator.
And you can barely hear what he has to say, but most of it is, who cares?
It's got nothing to do with me.
Which is what Putin keeps saying.
And then as the report continues, they go off and they give kind of a weird, kind of a nasty little needle to Putin in the end of the report when Scott Pelley comes back on.
It's a very interesting free trip for Elizabeth to Sochi, which is a resort area where she can go do some skiing.
And so she goes there.
And this is it.
What happened yesterday was truly shocking.
Senate Democrats accused the president today of courting a constitutional crisis.
He feels the dragnet tightening on the Russia investigation.
I believe that's why he's let Comey go.
They argued there is now just one solution.
It's, uh, well, maybe, maybe I got the wrong one.
I'm sorry.
It should be Elizabeth Palmer in Sochi.
I'm sorry.
I see the problem.
Okay, there's my problem.
Alphabetization issue.
Russian officials have been keeping an eye on all of this, including Vladimir Putin.
Well, today, our Elizabeth Palmer went one-on-one with Putin.
Rinkside in Sochi, Russia.
All suited up for an amateur hockey match, President Vladimir Putin took the time to weigh in on Washington's latest scandal.
How will the firing of James Comey affect U.S.-Russia relations?
There will be no effect.
Your question looks very funny for me.
Don't be angry with me.
We have nothing to do with it.
I could only hear we had nothing to do with it.
It was hard to care.
So the kicker is then...
It lives kicker.
You see, I'm going to play hockey with a hockey player.
Officially, Putin denies Russia even has an opinion.
But he's as skilled a player on the world stage as he is on the ice.
As the president scored in Sochi, his foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, was chalking up a win in Washington, meeting President Trump in the Oval Office.
American reporters were shot out, so it was up to the Russians to tweet this picture.
And this one, with Russia's controversial ambassador, Sergei Kiselyak, who remains at the heart of the alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia's meddling in the last election.
The pictures would have pleased Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, who, in a quiet backroom at the hockey arena, explained his concern that any mention of Russia is now so toxic in Washington that real improvement in relations is a long way off.
It's quite difficult for Mr.
Trump to speak about willingness to cooperate with Russia.
Even if it is in the interest of the United States, what is a ridiculous part of the story.
So you're afraid he's now hemmed in?
Well, he's definitely under a huge pressure by those who still argue his presidency, by those who still cannot accept that he's head of state in the United States.
By those who cannot accept the fact that they have lost to Mr.
Trump.
Scott, the Russians had high hopes they would get along well with the Trump administration, but it's all gone terribly wrong, and relations haven't been this bad since the end of the Cold War, so they're looking for any opportunity to build on at the moment.
However, all that didn't put Mr.
Putin off his game today.
He went on to score seven goals.
Not even Vladimir Putin checks Elizabeth Palmer.
Liz, thanks very much.
Okay, so we have two jokes at the end.
One, nobody scores seven goals in hockey.
Unless it's rigged.
Yeah, well, hello.
Oh, I missed it.
I can't stop it from going in.
Or kicking it in.
And then the Chex joke, which is...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Very funny.
Well, you know, it's not like Obama with the mom jeans throwing out the first pitch.
Remember the lob?
That was great.
And Bush wasn't much better.
We definitely have to talk about Putin, but before that, I would like to personally thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C, where the C stands for.
CIA is covering up the poppies.
Dvorak!
Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
Also in the morning to all the ships at sea, feet on the ground, subs in the air, feet in the air, and subs in the water, and all the air and subs in the water out there, dames and knights.
Yes, indeed.
And in the morning to everyone there in the, who do we have here, in the war room, noagendastream.com.
Good to see everybody there, trying to help out, some of you at least.
Remember, this is a job you have as a producer, and we also want to thank comic strip blogger, For being an awesome art producer, great piece for episode 9 or 2-7, Meme Fumes.
And it was the medical staff with the two snakes climbing up the DNA symbol, and one snake was red, one was blue, one had a donkey head, one had an elephant head, and dollars in the wings.
It was beautiful.
It said a lot.
With a microphone, no less.
Snuck in there.
It was a good piece.
Damn good piece.
Who knew?
Who knew?
You know, I remember when he first started, and we didn't pick some of his stuff, and then he got irked and left, and they came and went and came and went.
But like everybody else who got really good, and my original example is always Martin JJ, who, when I looked back on it, had been doing pieces for years without getting picked, and then all of a sudden got a clue, or something happened, something changed, ding, and it was hitting him one after the other to the point where he had to go into semi-retirement.
Wow.
Remember that?
He said, I can't keep winning every week.
He's got six or seven in a row.
Yeah.
Oh, well.
It happens.
Anyway.
Well, we do have a few people to thank.
A lot of them, actually.
For show...
Nine or two, eight.
Nine or two, eight.
And we start off with a big donation from Sir Animas.
$971.93.
He sent a note in.
I don't know why he hasn't claimed his barony yet or anything, but he sent a note in and his notes are always critical.
I get a kick out of it.
And will he also explain the donation amount?
Well, here he goes.
No.
Maybe.
I don't know.
Let's see.
Yeah, there it is.
I got it.
Yeah, he does explain.
For producer credit, please use my title Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch, not Sir Anonymous or Anonymous as you have in the past.
Oh, no.
Anonymous is the opposite of Anonymous.
Query.
Are the two dimensions a demonstration of Einstein's special relativity theory?
Special relativity incorporates time dilation and length contraction.
Simply a stationary clock is observed to move more slowly than a moving clock, and objects are measured to be shorter in the direction they are moving.
Perhaps the groups have faster clocks and shorter parts as they look at each other but seem normal to themselves.
Personally...
I strive for that safe place in dimension C, somewhere near Area 51.
As Google, Facebook, and Amazon and other social media track us for profit.
By the way, this is the guy, Anonymous, who the letters come in with no return address and there's no stamp or anything that would indicate what state it even came from.
The checks are just blank checks.
With no name and address or nothing.
And his signature is illegible.
Oh.
Yeah, so he's very much into anonymity.
Or onanimity.
I'll get criticized for saying that.
As Google, Facebook, Amazon, and other social media track us for profit, and for profit they stifle free speech, supporting forums with free speech is important.
This means us.
You continue to be gold.
Even when I disagree, you offer uncensored perspectives.
$971.93 equals one ounce of gold as measured in sterling.
Which is now only half a Bitcoin.
Yes.
Talked about that on the DH Unplugged show.
I sent in the value in dollars.
You lose on the conversion just like I did with Brexit.
Take that, bitches.
And that was that.
So I'm going to give him a karma even though he didn't ask for it.
I'm sure it's wrong, but...
You've got karma.
I want to make sure we do that just for myself because it's highly appreciated.
Your ounce of gold.
Once again.
Yeah, an ounce of gold and sterling.
And sterling reconverted to dollars, which means we get gypped.
Jordan Goodfellow in Arvada, Colorado, $333.33.
We have three of those.
We have three times 333.33.
John and Adam, it's been too long since my last donation, and the poor showing on Thursday was his much-needed wake-up call.
I need a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
I was in South Korea last week and from where we've been hearing from the MSM it seems as though we were on the brink of another war.
Based on what I saw, it could not be further from the truth.
Everyone's going about their westernized day as if nothing's going on.
Thank you for keeping us sane and helping us realize that we don't need to worry nearly as much as we are told to worry.
We need to call out all the freeloaders that don't donate and remind you that any time they have used the information from this show to their advantage, they have received value, and yet they haven't returned a likewise contribution.
Value for value.
Donate today, and don't be a douchebag.
I would like a Reverend Manning Obama calls.
Reverend Manning, any Reverend Manning, I guess.
I guess Obama calls on America, John slash business karma as I'm working to grow my business before the economy ends up in the toilet again.
Thank you for all the work that you put in every week.
The shows are just getting better and better.
Thank you very much, sir.
Thank you.
And I love it when we get these notes.
People say, how do you pitch this value for value thing?
Well, the people who are donating do it, actually.
Yeah, I love that.
That's a show, the money shot!
Woo, Jesus!
Woo, Lord!
Look at that!
That's a money shot!
Ken Ann Conway is a money shot!
There's a need for a rescue mission.
When the world is threatened, the world needs help.
It calls on America.
And that's the story.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Yay!
You've got karma.
This is Jordan Goodfellow in Arvada, Colorado.
Thank you, Jordan.
Sir Warren Carroll, Parts Unknown, according to this, 333333, number 203.
Listening since around episode 200, and while I'm a knight, I have let you down over this many past years.
In the years that I have not donated, I have spent many thousands of dollars on alcohol, weed, and hallucinogens, so it is high time, no pun intended, that I make a donation to the best podcast in the universe.
I'm a little conflicted here.
Keep up the great work, and thank you both for your dedication and hard work.
Maybe you should just send me the weed directly.
I'm going to give him some karma.
Thank you, sir, for this.
I appreciate it.
You've got karma.
Sir Warren Carroll.
Very nice.
Very nice.
Sir American Carnage comes in next.
The third 33333.
And it's a donation from Sir American Carnage.
Stay woke.
No note.
My millennials!
Stay woke!
We will!
Sir John of Shingle House, $300.
This is Sir John of Shingle House calling out my longtime friend Wayne and Laura, that's two of them, douchebags.
Douchebag!
And one more.
Douchebag!
He heard my nighting streamed live, wrote me on the face bag to congratulate me, and now I know he's a boner, not a donor.
I have become executive producer of this episode to make the most impact on this horrific finding.
No karma for you, Wayne.
Back in the line.
Excellent.
Thank you.
I'm going to give Sir John some karma.
You've got karma.
We have a real anonymous at $280, an associate executive producer for the show.
This is a two-boob donation.
It's a gift to myself for Mother's Day and a one-year-old daughter whose favorite word is boob.
Boob.
And my son, who thanks to the...
Favorite word.
Yeah, of course.
One-year-old.
And my son, who thanks to the show, is no doubt the most informed and politically savvy eighth grader in the world.
Yes.
My son requests a Hillary.
We've come.
We saw he died.
And we'd all like some karma to help us deal with the crazy family members who hates us for not being Hillary bots.
It was very interesting.
Did you read her whole note?
The part that she didn't want us to read on the show?
Yeah.
About her family?
Yeah.
That's pretty fun, isn't it?
Yeah.
Hilarious.
Sorry we can't tell you.
So, I mean, that is the land of unconfirmed.
Yes.
We came, we saw, we died.
Woo-hoo!
Woo-hoo!
You've got karma.
That's right.
I was watching it last night, early last night.
I had been looking for it for a long time, and I finally found it on YouTube, the full two-hour and 15-minute Adam Curtis documentary, Hyper-Normalization.
What's the name of it?
Hypernormalization.
Oh, okay.
Fantastic.
Now, his stuff is outrageous.
I mean, it's BBC, so you've got to always keep that in the back of your mind.
He's kind of left to his own devices.
But he explained a lot about Libya and Syria, and really how it all fit together with Kissinger, and it filled in a lot of holes for me.
Particularly, it's really interesting how Syria, Assad's dad, who is accused of being a horrible, evil dictator, yeah, he killed a lot of people, but he did that after he got screwed.
He was really trying to make the Arab world unified, at least according to the documentary.
And that's why he got all bitter and said, screw it, I'm going to kill everybody, kind of, that idea.
And then how Gaddafi was just marginalized and completely...
It's well worth watching.
I'll put a link in the show.
All he does is he spends all his time in the archives, the film archives of the BBC, which go way back, film and audio.
And he just develops a thesis based on watching stuff, and he's really good.
Yeah.
I'm going to watch it again.
I got through half of it, and I'm going to watch it again tonight with Tina.
You've got to see this.
It's really good.
Onward.
Sir Ladyfingers in Dayton, Ohio.
$253.89.
This is Thomas Butterick, he calls himself.
Which is his name.
He calls himself Sir Lady Fingers.
Howdy John and Adam.
I'm currently listening to episode 926 and I'm appalled by the poor showing of support and I've attached a check for 33% of a recent merit bonus from work.
Post-slave tax extraction.
As I am a couple of donations away from Barron, I'm curious what duties are expected of this esteemed title.
May I request the following jingles?
I'm Neil deGrasse Tyson.
I'm Neil deGrasse Tyson, bitch.
You have that one somewhere?
Maybe.
Yeah, I do, actually.
Kiki, shut up already.
It's science.
I have a new Kiki, which I'm going to use.
Okay, and then you want some travel karma?
I'll be in Israel with my smoking hot girlfriend.
So he wants a MILF, I'm sure.
So successfully hit in the mouth.
Well, she's not a MILF. Oh, sorry.
She's not a mother, she's a girlfriend.
We look forward to catching up on the show when we return.
Thank you for, you know, you can listen to the show on the road.
On the plane.
The plane's a great time to listen to the show.
Sir Ladyfingers Thomas Butterick.
I'm Neil deGrasse Tyson, bitch.
What has science done for you lately?
You've got karma.
I'm really liking that new one.
I like it.
Kiki.
I'd like to hear that again.
What has science done for you lately?
Girl is insane.
Show business.
Jim Burlingame in Bergen, New York.
$250.
My donation is in honor of two occasions.
One, my first born male human resource is 17 today.
I don't know if he's in the birthday.
I believe so, yes.
I'll check.
Keep reading.
What do you get the teenager that wants a car for his birthday?
No agenda producer credit, of course.
It goes to humans.
This will drive you very far in life, son.
I have predominantly been exposed to the left-right brainwashing paradigm in the mainstream media.
Learning how to simultaneously remove the conditioned emotional response to the news while applying some critical thinking skills is truly life-changing and has turned out to be one of the most valuable lessons I have been able to share with my children.
You're welcome.
Sunday is also Mother's Day, so my wife Amy hated your show when I first discovered it several years ago.
To be fair, she is a music listener, so she hates all the podcasts that I listen to.
So I set out on a mission to hit her in the mouth.
Every evening while she was lying in bed, I would take my shower with your show playing in the adjoining bathroom.
She was forced to listen just a bit at a time.
After several weeks, I started to hear comments when I turned the show off, like, hey, hey, I was listening to that.
Now she listens to every show and was one that suggested this donation.
Listening to and discussing No Agenda has helped our marriage and given me yet another reason to be grateful for your show.
So happy birthday to my son.
Happy Mother's Day to my wife.
Here is $200 toward a knighthood and $50 to start my wife on her way to becoming a dame.
My 17th birthday should be weighted more than an annual Mother's Day, right?
Right.
I'd love to hear the following jingles.
Don't eat me, Hillary.
Two to the head.
Trump is president.
And, little girl, yeah, thanks, Obama.
Don't eat me, Hillary Clinton!
He's Trump!
He's Trump!
The President!
Yay!
Thanks, Obama!
There you go.
Uh-huh.
It should be something of a botch.
Mark Beecham in Nairobi, Kenya.
$250.
Hope my contribution finds you both well and is the first of many.
And if I can contribute to the show in any way, please let me know.
He's in Kenya.
We can get anything you got.
I'm sure it's always going to be highly interesting.
Keep an eye on the Chinese for us.
Yes.
Craig Harm, Sir Ka.
$246.80.
Can I get a milf for my hot fiancé?
Enjoying some Glenlivet 18.
Good product.
Getting ready to get hitched tomorrow, Friday.
To my wonderful fiancé, no karma, but I would like to get an Obama, you might die.
It would be much appreciated.
Also, I snuck my no agenda ring into our engagement pictures.
What?
Oh yeah, I saw that!
It was hilarious!
He keeps pointing, like, hey!
And that's his engagement ring?
The no agenda night ring?
Yeah, that's funny.
We got a lot of funny guys.
That is very funny.
Okay, so what do you need here?
He needs...
Obama, you might die.
Okay, but no karma, correct?
Yes.
That's one mother I'd like to...
You might die.
There you go.
Cute.
Douglas Garcia, Dunbarton, New Hampshire, $234.56.
Keep up the great show.
I don't know why so many people out there listening are being douchebags.
Please send me some moving karma.
There you go.
You've got karma.
Here we go.
Here's Baron Otaku, Baron of the Northeast Texas and the Red River Valley.
Right there by you.
Thanks to the book recommendations.
I love Michael Crichton's state of fear.
I actually checked a couple of the statements that were made in the book.
And in fact, according to the WHO, malaria really did kill more people than Hitler.
In fact, I think it's killed more people than Hitler and Stalin combined since the DDT ban 40 years ago.
Yeah, that's in the book.
John, we finally got a call at Barbecue Cook-Off and got paid for the second place ribbon, so I'm donating to spread around some of the love.
If it wasn't for the show, I'd be bored as hell during these long nights at competitions.
I'm a professional barbecuer.
Can I get a JCD mac and cheese, a little girl yay, and some karma?
Mac and cheese and a little girl yay and some karma.
You slaves can get used to mac and cheese, mac and cheese, macaroni and cheddar melted together.
Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese.
Wow!
You've got karma now.
Dewey Daily.
$222.22.
It's a good showing today, by the way.
Gentlemen, your podcast helps us all laugh at the craziness of the left and feel better about the current condition.
You'd be laughing at the right, too, by the way.
Yeah, we do.
Lindsey Graham.
And feel...
I do, however, believe that this is the beginning of the second civil war.
As a country, the last time we were separated and hateful of each other was the first civil war.
It may be worse now.
Unfortunately for the left, we have all the guns.
Yes, I think that's an observation many people have made.
Got to love it.
Rest assured, I will defend southern central Pennsylvania for us.
Ha ha ha, he says.
Also, I'd rather hear Adam say, of course, 100 more times than hear old Johnny boy say, stop, stop, stop, once more.
Yours truly, I have to, it's the only way I can get him to stop.
Yours truly, millennial Dewey Daly.
Oh, beautiful.
Okay.
Of course.
Of course.
Sean Fincham.
Parts Unknown.
$202.02.
I have no note from him.
Let us take a quick search of the email database.
Fincham.
F-I-C-H. Okay.
Just try Finch.
Should do it.
F-I-N-C-H. Okay, maybe, maybe, maybe.
Sean Fincham, actually in July 16th he sent something in.
Oh wait, here it is.
May 10th.
AITM gents, Adams' HCA analysis on the last show was spot on and outstanding.
I agree with that.
Oh, thank you.
Humbly requesting the following jingles.
I like it.
You love this.
Here we go.
These are some gems.
You'll never get these.
Climate haiku, then two to the head, followed by some student loan debt jobs karma.
Oh, that's not that hard.
My smoking hot wife is graduating from USC with a degree in pharmacy, a PharmD.
This is Sir Finch, Nasty Night of the Bachelor Butte.
Let me see if this is the right one.
Haiku for slaves.
This Too delicious to believe.
Can you see that juice?
I don't think that's what he wanted.
I think, yeah, that may have been it.
Oh, okay.
Well, there it is.
You've got karma.
Very well done.
And then you get this nasty night of the Bachelorette.
William M. Rank, $200.
We're getting to the end here, finally.
This donation is made in honor of Jim Comey.
Agree with Trump's decision or not, it's clear to me that Comey did what he thought was the right thing to do given the circumstances and I hope our country gets more out of his leadership at some point.
Your show is more important than ever with all the insane speculative narratives flying around as fact.
Particularly the firing Comey is clear evidence of a cover-up narrative.
John, you're a level-headed, witty, insightful grump.
Adam, you're a gentleman and a scholar who knows how to run a podcast damn well.
Side note, let the grump do what he does best and stop yelling at him.
Love you both.
Could you play me any pro-comey clip you have?
Pro-comey?
I have one short one.
I don't want a door, I don't want a window, I don't want a sliding glass door.
I would like people to comply with court orders, and that's the conversation we're trying to have.
I don't know.
That's as pro as I can make it.
I don't know what...
Yeah.
There's probably other ones.
Maybe.
Maxine Waters.
That was a pro-clomy clip.
All right.
Ron Noren.
He sent a note in an email, which I just dug up.
Probably missed a deadline for Sunday show-up.
Well, no.
Yeah, yeah, you did.
You missed the Sunday for...
Yes, right.
Can you push me to Thursday?
Yes, that's what happened.
You got pushed, and here...
Right.
I remember this note coming in, by the way, late.
It came in at 3 in the morning the next day.
The show's done more than an excellent job lately, having me laugh out loud regularly.
I was surprised to see donations at such poor levels last Thursday, time to step up and support the best podcasts in the multiverse.
Why?
Because, like Adam puts it, I pay for my entertainment.
You're getting a lot of mileage out of that.
And to trigger three of my co-workers who listen all the time but somehow never hear their names in the donation segment, let's call them out as douchebags.
Ready?
Oh, I'm sorry.
Yes.
Ronald Koningenberg, I think.
Koningenberg.
Douchebag.
Okay.
Tim Koster.
Tim Koster.
Douchebag.
And Xavier Hacking.
Douchebag.
Second of May, my third human resource, Charlotte, was born, and she is having some startup issues.
Can you please send some much-needed no-agenda boost karma?
Thank you.
Finally, for my jingle request, can I have a Manning money shot?
Whoopie Get Out of My.
Yeah.
And Whoopie Classified.
Okay, so...
Oh, jeez.
I'm doing a million things here at the same time.
Whoopie Money Shot.
No, Manning.
Manning Money Shot.
I can't type even.
I got a small thing going on here.
Why the hell can I... Okay, I'm sorry.
Money Shot.
Whoopie...
Get out of my...
And then Whoopi Classified, which I don't know what that is.
Yeah, I do.
Yeah.
Jeez.
Can you play the slide whistle or something?
Oh, I can play...
No, I can...
I know what you want to hear.
You want to hear me tuning up my recorder.
Oh, no, never mind.
I just got it off.
That's a Shona money shot!
Woo, Jesus!
Woo, Lord!
Look at that!
That's a money shot!
Kenan Conway is a money shot!
Get out of my vagina!
Classified!
You've got karma.
What was that?
What was the classified one?
Oh, it was Whoopi.
Huh.
A while ago.
I don't remember that at all.
Yeah, she was going, it's classified, it's classified.
Oh.
Well, that's right.
It runs in the Netherlands.
I forgot about that, to mention that.
Herbert Harms, 200 bucks would be our last donor.
And he, let me just go again.
Let's see if he sent us a note.
I'm sure he did.
Everyone else has.
Harms.
Harms.
I don't want to get in harm's way.
And yes, we got something maybe.
Craig Herbert Harms.
No, the last note came in from him on October 19th.
It was just a donation note.
So if you have something to tell us, we'll run it later.
Thanks, Herbert.
Give him some random karma.
You got it?
You've got karma.
That's our executive producers and associate executive producers for the show, and this will be a lot of them, and we want to thank them all for helping us carry the show on to Mother's Day, which will be our next show.
Yes, and do we have special donation amounts coming for that?
Yeah, 51.
There's a couple of them.
It's 5 the date, which is something like the 18th.
Nobody actually is caught.
No one really cares.
Moms are getting a raw deal this year.
5140 appears to be it, and there's very few...
I'm glad for all the donations, but the Mother's Day...
No, no, I blame this on Comey.
You have to understand that the news media always has their Mother's Day...
Package is good to go, but they're just running out of time.
They don't have the time for the human interest.
It's all got to be, call me, call me, call me Trump, call me, call me Trump, call me, call me Trump, call me, call me Trump.
You know what I'm saying?
Mark the time.
Okay, I shall mark the time when I say, remember us for our next program.
Thank you very much, executive and associate executive producers.
This is highly appreciated.
We will be on the air again on Sunday.
We need you to support us at Dvorak.org slash N-A. So while you're here, call me Trump, call me Trump, call me Trump, call me Trump.
Hopulate the formula!
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Back to a cult.
Shut up, Slame.
Shut up, Slame.
Okay, let me tell you what's going on.
Let me just tell you what's going on.
Okay, what's going on?
Okay.
So at the beginning of the donation segment, even before that, I go to the archive to see what art was used.
I don't always write that down and what the title of the episode was.
And as the page loads, I see that the player is failing to load the MP3 file.
Just notice that.
So we're now in the donation segment with jingles to search for.
It turns out that one of our very important domains has expired two days ago.
And the reason why I didn't know about it, well, the whole bunch of reasons, but I didn't get a notification, not one I saw.
So I'm like, okay, now I have to figure out where I got to renew this because we have to upload the show and everything should be working.
So, I'm with Void Zero and Sir Bemrose.
They're in the back channel.
I was like, look, just renew it.
Well, yeah, but it's your information.
And, of course, I've changed my credit card address.
So, it got a decline, failed, whatever.
Wait, what you're telling me?
Hold on.
You're doing this while I'm throwing random requests for jingles at you.
Yes.
Yes.
Wow!
Yes.
But it gets worse.
I am impressed.
It gets worse.
It keeps getting failed.
It doesn't say decline.
It says fail.
So then I like...
Okay, I log in.
I can pay with PayPal.
Good.
I use the no agenda PayPal.
Failed.
I use my personal PayPal.
Fail.
I'm going through this while you're throwing out...
You'll never get these clips.
Oh, thanks.
Ha ha!
Anyway, I think we've sorted it out, but I'm sweating.
That's great.
Not really.
People have no idea how good you are.
No, thank you.
I didn't...
Yes.
Fact.
That's astonishing.
A little bit of...
A bit of more of this Russia thing, just a few things, a couple of things.
I have one more Comey clip.
Oh, okay.
We'll do one more Comey clip.
This was just a clip of the mania, the really hate, the Trump hatred thing going to an extreme.
This was Tim Kaine.
It was brought on PBS. This is the former vice presidential candidate along with Hillary Clinton.
He obviously hates Trump.
And he comes on, which is just nonsense.
And I found it...
I mean, Judy tried to...
Point out that it was bullcrap what he was saying, but the most egregious one is where I cut it off and then I will make a comment and then we'll go on from there.
On Capitol Hill, we have heard serious concerns raised by some Republicans and calls from Democrats for a special counsel to investigate the Russia story.
We get reaction now to Mr.
Trump's firing of James Comey from Hillary Clinton's vice presidential nominee.
He's a Democratic senator from the state of Virginia.
Senator Kaine, thank you very much for joining us.
Glad to, Judy.
You called the firing of Director Comey outrageous.
Why?
I think this is a clear attempt by President Trump to thwart and block and undermine the investigation into collusion and ties between Russia and the Trump campaign transition and administration.
And there is now a pattern of very extraordinary personnel actions.
The firing of Sally Yates, the firing of General Flynn, Attorney General Sessions having to recuse himself from the Russia investigation, and now the firing of Jim Comey.
And the thread that connects all these highly unusual actions is the investigation into Russia.
President Trump is afraid of this.
He's trying to undermine it.
And that should make us all redouble our efforts to both on the criminal side have a special prosecutor to get to the bottom of it.
And in Congress, the Senate Intel Committee needs to accelerate the pace and get the answers we need.
Well, Senator, I'm sure you know the White House is saying that that's just not the case.
They are saying they had a specific set of reasons for firing Director Comey.
It had to do with the way he handled Secretary Clinton's email controversy.
They had a different set of reasons for asking the National Security Advisor, General Flynn, to leave, and so on and so on.
So why are you so convinced that the Russia investigation is at the core of all this?
Judy, again, let's dig into the pattern.
Sally Yates is the deputy AG, a career prosecutor.
She goes to the White House and she says, we are worried that your sitting national security advisor is compromised by ties to Russia and President Trump immediately fires, not General Flynn, he fires Sally Yates.
He doesn't just instantly fire Sally Yates.
No.
She refused to participate in the Muslim, to uphold the Muslim ban.
And that was big news.
And the same guys like him, oh, she was just trying, you know, she was doing her moral best by not going along with this Muslim ban.
And he went on and on about it.
Now all of a sudden it's because of this.
That's bullcrap.
First reported it, Flynn was fired within two weeks.
Well, hold on a second.
Look up dates.
Hold on one second.
I have only one Yates clip, and I thought it was actually quite good.
When Senator Cruz reads her the law saying, hey, the president's allowed to do this because he was hammering down on why she actually was fired because she didn't uphold the executive order.
You mind if I just play this quick?
Yes.
Texas Republican Senator Ted Cruz asked Yates to explain why she thought it was okay to defy the president.
He quoted the statute that gives the president authority over immigration.
Whenever the president finds that the entry of any alien or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation and for such period as he shall deem necessary suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or non-immigrants or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem appropriate.
Would you agree that that is broad statutory authorization?
I would, and I am familiar with that, and I'm also familiar with an additional provision of the INA that says, no person shall receive preference or be discriminated against in issuance of a visa because of race, nationality, or place of birth.
That, I believe, was promulgated after the statute that you just quoted.
And I really love this because...
The two things are completely separate.
There's a difference between State Department rules and regulations and an executive authority.
And people were like, oh, she just butt slammed Ted Cruz!
Butt slam!
I'm no lawyer.
I'm no lawyer.
But to me, that seemed pretty flimsy.
Yeah, I agree.
So, I have a couple of clips here about the collusion and just a lot of hate.
It is clear that this was fired, that the firing was because the president didn't like the investigation or perhaps was afraid of where it was going.
And I, until today, I would have said that I had suspicions about the president's campaign's collusion with the Russians.
This firing leads me to conclude that there was collusion, that the president was involved in it, because otherwise there is no reason the president would undertake this cover-up.
And this is clearly part of a cover-up.
It's just unbelievable.
They're just making it up.
I mean, listen.
Look.
Hear me now, believe me later.
It would be great for our show if there was this elaborate cover-up.
This would be fantastic.
But, excuse me, Nancy Drew.
I mean, the reason is very expressly stated.
You may not like it.
You may not believe it.
But you're just in a fantasy world.
If there are any facts, this show will certainly be the first to go, Oh, gotcha!
Where's the transcripts of Flynn?
Where's any of this stuff?
None of it exists.
All right, Congressman Nadler, for the record there, you are saying that you believe because of this the president himself colluded with Russians ahead of the election.
Of course, no proof of that at this point unless there's something you have to show that.
This is just your assumption based on this firing.
My assumption based on the firing is that there's no reason why he would do that if he didn't, if he weren't concerned that the investigation was going to show things that he didn't want shown.
That either means that he was or people close to him were colluding with the Russians.
Now, please, he's even saying, no, no, no, there's no evidence, but it obviously means that there's evidence.
Or that it happened.
Maybe they have the movie The Peeing on the Bed.
Oh, another one I'd love to see.
Oh, my goodness.
Now, ABC Nightline had Cokie Roberts on, and they just took this all the way to, you know, just throwing in the kitchen sink every meme, every, and I shortened this up significantly, less than a minute and a half.
You know, from Watergate to, you know, cover, just everything.
Do you think the Watergate comparison is a fair one?
Yes.
What we see in both situations is...
How can it be...
Watergate was...
John, refresh our memory on Watergate for a moment.
What happened exactly?
Because no one is just throwing out Watergate and half the people who are saying it weren't even alive when Watergate happened.
Watergate was during the second Nixon administration where there were some fears that the Democrats were planning some sort of something.
And Nixon's people put together a burglar team of ex-CIA guys.
And if you read the Family of Secrets book...
I don't know.
And then the whole thing turned into an attempted cover-up and then the discovery of tapes.
This is where it gets interesting, and I want you to just delve into it a little bit.
The tapes specifically, the Watergate tapes, which involved recording conversations, wiretapping, or not, this is somehow how it's being compared to each other.
Yeah, and there's no comparison.
It's a very...
False comparison at pretty much every level.
I mean, I'd say you can compare it to a lot of other things.
I think Iran-Contra would be closer, except for the lack of the CIA, although they may be involved in this, you don't know.
But no, they just like throwing it out because it's got an evil term.
Nobody remembers what Watergate's about or who was involved in it.
And what was...
So my grandmother at the time, we were living in the Netherlands, so this was 72, 73, I think, Watergate?
Around that time?
That's a period, yeah.
And my grandmother would record on our little, remember those portable cassette tape players?
A nagra.
No, my grandmother did not have a niagra.
A nagra.
A nagra.
Not diagra.
Nagra.
No, it's a Sony or something.
It's a top loader, slip the cassette, and people don't know this.
Top loader, slip the cassette, and you close the door.
A Philips Norelco.
Norelco.
Yes!
With that shitty microphone with the switch on the side.
The switch would always make so much noise when you turn it on.
It would sound like this.
Okay, I'm talking now.
I'm going to turn it off.
And then you had to press the red button, record, or as the Dutch would say, record, and the play at the same time.
And that would then start the tape mechanism and would say, let's record.
And later, of course, we used those for our VIC-20 and Commodore 64s.
Different story.
Wasn't there some erase?
The secretary had gotten herself all...
Somehow, if she had her left foot on the pedal and her right foot in her ear, her left hand could somehow accidentally erase the tape?
There was a few minutes erased.
This was explained in a movie.
Oh, gosh.
That's our American history for you.
The movie was a comedy called...
I think it's called Dick.
And I'll get the name of the movie.
It's a must...
Unfortunately, it's such a...
It's a reference movie.
So if you weren't around during this era, you would not have...
Have a clue what the jokes were.
Which is the problem with this movie.
But it had this...
The moment where this happened in the movie is somebody was having sex on the desk or something and they bumped the thing.
Oh, I never heard that part of the story.
That's even better.
No, no.
This is bullcrap.
It's a comedy.
It's a comedy movie.
And it explains...
It actually explains the entire Watergate phenomenon in some way that makes sense because of these two cheerleaders that showed up at the White House.
And it's one of the most...
Interesting, well-constructed films ever made.
Oh, another tip!
Yeah, let me get...
Well, you're talking...
I'll get the name of this movie.
I think it's called Dick, though.
Okay.
I will...
That sounds familiar.
Anyway, so Cokie Roberts, who is from that era...
And I forgot to finish the story that my grandmother would send these tapes of all the congressional hearings, which were on TV and radio all day long.
And, of course, she'd send them as, hey, here's the Watergate tapes.
Anyway...
Here is Koki Roberts' ABC Nightline.
Watergate comparison is a fair one?
Yes.
What we see in both situations is a president feeling that an investigation was getting too close for comfort and trying to shut it down.
One key difference between now and then, there was a select committee on Watergate holding hearings on Capitol Hill.
There were actual tapes recorded by Nixon in the Oval Office promising direct proof of a cover-up.
And there were dogged reporters at the Washington Post and elsewhere piecing it all together.
The difference now is that the only one of those checks that is there is the press.
And the president has spent a great deal of his presidency undermining the press.
You need Woodward and Bernstein.
Right.
But would investigative reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein have had the same impact in the era of Twitter and so-called fake news?
We know there's no such thing as fake news.
We live in a time when people don't believe facts.
And if we can't convince people that facts are facts, that's a very difficult situation.
Tonight, the Senate Intel Committee issued a subpoena for documents from General Mike Flynn.
A sign their investigation of him is pressing on.
Senators are also asking questions about Trump's business dealings.
During your investigation of all things Russia, did you ever find a situation where a Trump business interest in Russia gave you concern?
Senator Graham, I can't comment on that because that impacts...
Are they there?
Officials tell ABC News that the FBI is increasingly focused on several Trump associates, including Carter Page.
Now there's something missing for you.
I will get to him.
There's something missing in the comparison because Wooden and Bernstein, didn't they have Deep Throat?
Yes.
And in the movie, which is called Dick, by the way, the Deep Throat is accounted for by the two cheerleaders.
And by the way, the two cheerleaders were Kirsten Dunst and Michelle Williams, playing 15-year-olds.
Yes, Deep Throat was the guy who finally revealed himself a few, I think like five years ago, if I'm not mistaken, as some CIA guy.
Retired now.
All right.
So we're missing a Deep Throat.
We don't have a Deep Throat in this.
But we do have the wiretapping.
Well, we do have Lindsey Graham in a matter of speaking.
Yay!
Nobody wants Lindsey Graham on their dodgeball team, okay?
This is just not happening.
Senator Rand Paul.
Not only is there no evidence that the Trump administration or campaign was connected to Russia or committed any crime, no evidence at all of committing a crime.
There's not even an accusation that I know of of what crime would have potentially be committed.
So all this breathless talk about people...
There's a lot of hypocrisy going on.
Many of these Democrats, including Chuck Schumer, said they lost confidence in Comey a long time ago.
Hillary Clinton's been blaming Comey.
They should be thanking President Trump for getting rid of Comey because he politicized something that may well have had something to do with Hillary Clinton's loss.
So I think it's a lot of crocodile tears and a lot of people saying, you know, They were forgetting Ridicomi, too, but now they're going to say it's all about this Russia investigation, which hasn't produced one iota of evidence that anybody did anything wrong or broke the law.
Oh, thank you.
Finally someone's speaking some truth.
And then he elaborates on the wiretapping, which we've explained, but it's just nice to hear it from Rand.
And I think some of the media have gotten this wrong.
When President Trump said he was wiretapped, of course he was.
We don't really do old-fashioned wiretapping.
There's no wires attached to most of our phones.
Wiretapping means that you were surveilled.
Someone listened...
By using some sort of modern technology that really is not literally a wiretap anymore.
But they did listen to Flynn's phone call.
And this is an amazing invasion of privacy.
And realize what kind of world we're going to live in.
And realize the statement that Chuck Schumer said just a week or two ago.
He said, don't mess with our intelligence community because they'll get you six ways to Sunday if you do.
And that Trump's making a big mistake here.
This is coming from one of the people.
Schumer is one of the eight people in Congress that know everything about intelligence.
When he says that the president should be afraid of the intelligence community, that should make us all wake up.
Because what about the lesser mortals in this country if they decide they don't like us?
What do you think could happen to us if they had that much power?
And when you say you think you were surveilled, do you get a lead on that, or is that a gut feeling, or you just wonder?
We've had two reporters call us who say they have sources.
I have not seen the sources, so I can't say one way or another.
But when I have two different reporters calling me saying they have multiple sources saying that the Obama administration was either unmasking or querying presidential candidates, my ears do perk up.
Not really for my sake, because I know I haven't done anything wrong, but really for the American public's sake that if they're doing this to presidential candidates, they could sway presidential elections.
See, we're worried about the Russians swaying an election.
What about our own intelligence community being used by the previous administration to sway elections?
That is a bombshell.
Yeah, well, remember the Kosinich clip that we had?
Yep, yep.
He was also pissed about it.
Actually pissed.
And of course they finally railroaded him out of office.
Through gerrymandering.
We can't have that.
Okay, what else we got?
Well, I have a quickie, if you don't mind, just a real quickie.
Phrase from the chaise.
Phrase from the chaise, which was my phrase, which was found.
Someone figured out where the term blood on the moon comes from, which is something my mom would say.
Adam Clark Curry, if you do that, there'll be blood on the moon!
I've heard it used.
I don't know what it means.
I think I once did.
Well, but I have the etymology of I know where it comes from.
That's what we're waiting for.
It comes from the movie Blood on the Moon with Robert Mitchum, Barbara Bel Geddes, known from Dallas, I think.
When there's blood on the moon, death lurks in the shadows.
It was a Western.
Oh.
So my mom was pretty much saying, if you do that, I'm going to end you.
Happy Mother's Day.
Happy Mother's Day.
Okay, nice.
Alright, we're going to do some international stuff.
Yes, I was just about to ask.
I'm so tired of...
A lot of stuff is being overlooked.
In fact, Deutsche Welle has been running this story for over a week, and now it keeps getting updated.
I was going to start with the clip about the second guy being arrested as a Nazi plot to set up the immigrants as murderers.
Now I had to throw that clip away because now there's a third guy.
Excellent.
So this is the German Nazi plot update.
Oh, update.
Oh, a German Nazi plot update.
Oh, yeah.
I'm Brent Goff.
It's good to have you with us.
He was responsible for the hit list of people to be murdered.
That is what police in Germany are claiming tonight following the latest arrest in the case of a suspected far-right terror cell inside the German army.
Authorities suspect the lieutenant helped another officer in a plot to assassinate top politicians and then blame refugees.
This is the third arrest in the investigation so far.
Prosecutors say the names on that hit list included Germany's president.
Their sights were set on former German President Joachim Gauk, as well as on Justice Minister Heiko Maas.
Investigators found their names on a list of potential targets.
According to what we've discovered so far, the three suspects were planning an attack on the life of senior politicians and public figures committed to what the suspects considered to be misguided refugee and immigration policies.
Police officers arrested the 27-year-old lieutenant here in Cale on the border with France.
The arrest has raised concerns of a right-wing terror cell within the German armed forces.
Investigators are searching barracks across the country for evidence pointing to right-wing extremism or anything glorifying Germany's Nazi past.
Investigators believe the suspects had cooked up a sophisticated plan to deflect attention.
The evidence we've uncovered so far suggests Franco A. was to execute the attack himself.
When it goes on, they show a lot of...
What is this about?
I mean, what do we know, really?
What we know is that this all stems from that...
I don't know, we played it maybe two weeks ago.
The guy was arrested for posing as a refugee and getting into the refugee system.
Right, yeah, I know what happened, but why?
Apparently, I don't know, this could all be ginned up for all I know.
It could be a false flag, boy.
Well, if it didn't work.
But the idea was to kill some of these pro-immigration guys, which makes, again, if you think about it, does this really make any sense?
Let's kill pro-immigration guys and then blame it on immigrants?
That would be kind of cool.
It's like, what?
So the immigrants killed the people who want them in, yeah.
Right, if it was, you know, in fact, the impact would be you killed people that were against immigration, and you say, oh, look at these people against immigration are going to get killed by these maniacs.
So the whole, this story is not very...
Holds no water.
There's no, they're there.
Well, there's something there, because they arrested three guys so far, and now they're looking into getting rid of a bunch of senior officers.
And what they, and then they show, what they show in the videos, they show...
And then they the latest is they've got some, you know, some soldier, for example, my collective is one of those old Nazi helmets.
It's got that funny looking shield in the back.
You know, the skirt.
It's got like a skirt.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, if you got one of those and you're you're obviously a plotter, a right wing plotter.
Did you see that video?
I think I sent you the link.
About that woman with two children who goes into a shopping mart and then sees...
It's a very good...
You've got to put it in the show notes.
People need to watch this video.
It doesn't work without the video, but you have to see this.
There's a couple of clips in there that could kind of work.
The whole idea of what really happened, you have to see the proximity of her to these guys and just...
I tried it.
Believe me, I tried it.
It didn't work for me.
We have strict rules here on the No Agenda show.
Well, so this woman goes into a grocery store that she shops at in Portland.
It's Portland.
It's a Portlandia store.
It's almost like a scripted story.
She goes in there and she says, oh my God, there's a Confederate flag rug.
Hanging on the wall.
That they were selling.
She never shows it in her clip.
Nope, nope.
And so she starts making a big fuss about it.
But she's doing this while filming.
Filming everyone in the store saying, don't you think that's racist?
That's racist.
And she just goes on and on.
And then these guys are like, hey, why don't you F off?
Yeah, get out of here.
Get out of here.
So she leaves.
Yeah, go ahead.
And so they call her a bitch, and she bitches about that incessantly.
And then she gets back to her car saying, I'm never shopping here again.
Nobody else should either.
And then she puts her kids in the car.
She's got two kids with it.
They're just me rolling their eyes and crazy mom.
And then they have this guy who walks out of the store and gets to pick up some Some carts or something.
And she starts yelling at him.
She starts freaking out.
The guy's a mile away.
And so some woman comes and helps her.
And then she's completely beside herself.
They attacked me!
They attacked me!
A nervous breakdown.
And it's a very Portland thing.
Oh, okay.
I didn't understand that.
Well, it's Portland.
I thought it was an episode of Portlandia.
I mean, that's how bad it was.
Now I understand your comment.
Because I have never seen Portlandia.
So that's why I didn't understand what you were saying.
Oh yeah, no, Portlandia is about the insanity of the area.
I have an update.
You should definitely watch a couple episodes.
I have an update.
The domain is now active in our DNS again.
I need to talk about this for a second because this is the adverse and unintended consequences of the great technological society we live in.
I can explain what happened and I have a huge gripe.
Okay, go.
Okay.
So there are two domains that we have hosted with one certain provider because they provide DNS secure.
And my personal credit card is on file, and they tried to bill on May 9th, and it got declined.
Why, you ask?
Well, that's because, of course, I moved and I changed my address, and now I need to go think about every single place my card is used, and I have to change my address, because it will now be declined.
Here's a couple of gripes I have about that.
This building is a new development.
We were lucky to get in, as no one has lived in this particular apartment previously.
That's always nice.
So I actually went through this whole thing of changing my address at the bank, And I couldn't change it.
It kept saying that this address is wrong.
And I had to call them.
Oh, it's usually one of the databases.
Yeah, it's not in the database.
Right, of course not.
It's a brand new development.
The web system said that's not possible.
You can't live there.
Okay, so I finally got that updated only on half of the stuff.
But here's what really irks me.
When you move in the United States, you can go to the U.S. Postal Service, which is a constitutionally installed agency, and I think it's very good, and you can change, say, I want my mail forwarded, all my mail, and if you have multiple last names, you have to fill out more things, and it's a scam of epic proportions that I do not understand why this is allowed and why no one ever says anything about it.
Because you're on the U.S. Postal Service and say, oh, click here, moveme, whatever,.gov, and then moveme.gov, and then you fill out your information, and it never, at any point, does it say, hey, great, we got you confirmed, you're good to go.
No, you get coupons, oh, here, select what you don't want, Best Buy, Bed Bath& Beyond, Home Depot, and you can get out of the loop.
You have to go through and you have to find way down at the bottom, no thanks, no thanks.
How can the Postal Governmental Service be in cahoots with these a-holes?
I'm trying to get away from postal spam.
They're encouraging it.
And it's so seamless, you don't even know what's happening.
Before you know it, you get coupons.
You sure this was a.gov?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Lowe's.
All of this stuff.
Lowe's.
15% off coupon at Bed Bath& Beyond.
Now, I did opt in for that one, but that's not the point.
It's a seamless scam.
They slip you right into it, and I don't know who approves this.
Or, how do we get on the list?
Would you like a subscription to the No Agenda show?
Why not?
Yeah, that's a good point.
There's somebody doing the clearing for that stuff.
Yeah.
Anyway, so we're good to go.
Thank you, VoidZero, for rocking it there, helping me out.
Staying in technology for a moment.
We're back.
We've debunked it all.
Can you imagine if you were a government agency and you had enough power that you could just kill somebody's DNS? That number is no longer valid ever.
They totally have that kind of power.
Yeah.
It's going to happen.
Yeah, it would happen.
Remember with the Silk Road?
Yeah.
They were shutting off people's DNS left and right and you got a big FBI sign.
Or DHS, I think, maybe.
No, I think it was FBI. Alright.
Democracy Now.
Democracy Now had a little bit on the sanctimoniously smug John Oliver, who is back again with his complete misunderstanding of net neutrality and its implications.
Because, of course, we only expect the evil government to censor us.
Censor the internet.
Which I think really they mean...
We don't want Netflix buffering.
I think that's what people are really worried about.
And John Oliver did this whole thing, if you recall, a couple years ago about net neutrality, completely off base, completely wrong, yet heralded by everyone in the scientific community in Silicon Valley and certainly in government as the best explanation ever of net neutrality.
And it's bull crap.
It's total horse shite what he is saying.
Total.
And I don't know if we need to go into it at all, really, but we can highlight some of the things as we go through.
Democracy Now's take on John Oliver doing net neutrality point version two.
And, of course, Judy thinks it's all very not Judy.
What's her name?
Amy.
Amy thinks it's all very funny.
Net neutrality is just a way of saying no discrimination.
Net neutrality is what...
I'm sorry, this is...
That's not true.
No, of course not.
This guy is...
I'm sorry, I should have mentioned who he is.
He's the CEO of...
What is the name of this outfit?
The Free Press.
The Free Press.
We've looked at them before.
A lot of Silicon Valley, they're a lobbyist group.
You can hire them as lobbyists.
You hire this group, and you can only imagine who's hired him for this.
That would be Silicon Valley.
Well, net neutrality is just a way of saying no discrimination.
Net neutrality is what ensures that when you go online, you can go wherever you want, do whatever you want, download whatever you want.
And it's not up to your cable company or the phone company to decide which websites and services are going to work and which won't.
Is that net neutrality, John?
Is that what it is?
God, I hope not.
What is net neutrality, then?
Because this guy just spouted off some bull.
Well, net neutrality is...
The idea of net neutrality is that all bits are equal.
That's in a nutshell.
All bits are equal.
So whatever you ask for from your browser, whatever it is, you're going to get it with the same, what would you call it?
Yeah, the same priority.
The same priority.
That's it.
And is this efficient use of any network in the world ever?
No, no, nobody.
That's stupid.
And why?
Why?
Why is it stupid?
Your famous example of priority packets.
My favorite example is the following, which is that I'm doing remote medicine, and I'm doing an operation, a very delicate operation remotely, and I have...
Yeah.
because the life and death situation is at hand, and I want priority for my bits to do this operation over the YouTube bits.
Yeah.
Yeah, what's wrong with that?
No, you can't have that.
You can't do that.
No, because that's stifling the free and open internet.
What this is about, and you'll hear it in this clip.
I think you're always right about this being about Netflix.
It's all about Netflix and FaceBag.
We fought a fight.
I've talked about it many times on this show over 10 years to push the FCC to pass strong net neutrality rules and have clear legal authority to enforce them.
And the Trump FCC has really declared war on those rules.
The chairman has said he wants to take a weed.
They've declared war.
There's no war here.
These analogies have to stop.
He declared war.
Yes, we're going to war.
No, he didn't.
The FCC just said we're getting rid of that.
I don't think there was war.
The chairman has said he wants to take a weed whacker to them.
He's trying to undo the rules.
He said that?
Yeah.
Ajit, whatever his name is.
He said he wants to take a weed whacker.
A weed whacker to the rules, yes.
It's good, though.
Look, I don't know if he actually said that.
That's a good question.
That's what everyone's claiming.
He might have.
A weed whacker to them.
He's trying to undo the rules passed at the end of the Obama administration.
Those rules were never put in place.
Say again?
Those rules passed at the end of the Obama administration were never put in place.
No, they were passed.
Take those rules away, and this is situation normal.
Everything is the way it always has been, and it never changed forever.
It never changed with those Obama rules.
And what happened to the big browser history campaign?
That faded away really quick.
Another rule that was put in place, that was signed but never implemented, and everyone's just forgotten about that.
Where's the browser?
I don't know.
Because it's the meme fumes.
That's all people...
Oh!
Trump trying to kill the internet.
...at the end of the Obama administration, undo the rules supported by millions and millions of Americans just to give Comcast, Verizon, and AT&T more ability to create special fast lanes for their own content, to favor the content and sites and services that they own or who they're in business with, and cut off...
Competitors undermine the competition, make it harder for independent voices to be heard, really damage...
You know, stop that thing for a second.
You know, the funny thing about this is, yes, in theory, whatever he says is true, but there's no evidence of it.
No.
There's a little evidence of it.
I would say there's none.
Let's put it this way.
There is a complaint that floats around that Comcast...
I don't know if this is still true.
This is from like a couple years ago.
Which is during the battle that was really going on.
Hold on one second.
The genesis is very important.
The genesis of this problem was Reed Hastings, whatever his name is, from Netflix.
And he said...
Oh, hold on a second.
This is bull crap.
Why should I? Because it's all about peering.
And I don't think we have enough show to get into that, but this is how the internet was born.
He said, why should I have to pay extra to get onto Comcast Network?
Because they were saying, you need to pay us extra for all that crap you're using on our network.
That's the genesis of it.
Yes, there's that element.
And it is partly the genesis, because they're the ones who made the biggest fuss, and everybody...
It caught hold with the tech writers.
And so everybody got all worked out, been out of shape, because what was happening, which was never discussed...
Was that Comcast refused to use the appliances that were provided by Netflix.
Exactly.
Because Comcast had their own movie distribution system and they were using, they didn't want these Netflix appliances.
And they were actually being more net neutral because the way they saw it was that I'm reminded of some of the stuff I've written.
Operations like Voodoo and some of these other movie operations, they don't have these appliances.
There's no net neutrality, it seems to me, when Netflix takes a box and I don't know, a petabyte in it or whatever, all the most popular material in movies, and they drop it at an ISP because Sonic.net has one of these, and you drop it there and you plug it in, and it costs a little.
The ISP has to pay a little bit for the power that takes to power the thing.
It's not a small box.
But it gets to serve Netflix movies directly from the ISP's home, the home base.
And what was happening here, and this was, I think, besides your telemedicine example, you don't want any government regulating, starting to getting into regulation of it.
Just know, because before you know it, and you remember that we looked at these rules and it was terms like illegal network traffic would not be allowed.
There's all these little provisions which meant BitTorrent, you can write that off, a whole bunch of things that you really don't want, but people are short-sighted and moronic!
Cut-off competitors undermine the competition, make it harder for independent voices to be heard.
And this, make it harder for independent voices to be heard.
What, on FaceBag?
Are you kidding me?
Damage the amazing tools that so many political organizers have used.
Facebook!
Face bag.
To build social movements using the free and open internet.
No, face bag.
All of this is at risk if we lose net neutrality.
No, it's at risk, John.
We can't resist...
We can't resist if we don't have net neutrality.
Here's what I want you to do while I play this second clip to hear a bit of Oliver's thing.
I want you to go look at my tweet from this morning.
There's only two, I think, announcing the show and then one before that.
Greg, I want to turn to FCC Chair Ajapai speaking at the Newseum last month.
During his speech on the future of Internet regulation, he attacked your group, Free Press.
Consider, for example, the leading special interest in favor of Title II, a spectacularly misnamed Beltway special interest called Free Press.
Its co-founder and current board member makes no effort to hide the group's true agenda.
While he says that we're not at the point yet where we can completely eliminate the telephone and cable companies, he admits that, and I quote, the ultimate goal is to get rid of the media capitalists in the phone and cable companies and to divest them from control.
Craig Aaron, defend yourself.
Well, I appreciate being called the leading group.
Besides that, you know, obviously this is the kind of sort of neo-McCarthyism and red-baiting that we thought we left in the past.
The reality is that Free Press for 10 years has fought for the free and open internet, advocated for net neutrality, and there are thousands and thousands and thousands of pages filed at the FCC, op-eds published, emails sent, are And this is
why I brought up the Adam Curtis documentary.
Because it really focuses a lot around this, that we are just pieces of cogs in the machine.
In this case, it's all connected to Silicon Valley, but it's Facebook, it's Google, it's Twitter, it's Reddit, but it's also the banks.
Everything is connected.
Right down to TRW, who does your credit report.
All these things are connected, and they have total control over us, and we're morons.
Okay, we'll just roll on the hamster wheel.
Keep going.
They all want to protect their turf.
Their entertainment-based turf is what they want.
Now, I thought I had left a piece of John Oliver in there.
I guess I took it out because it was so boring.
But he did this bit, and he says, look at these asshole ISPs who want to control everything!
Then, if you look at the graphic, which popped up three times during the 10-minute piece, missing from the picture is Spectrum slash Time Warner, who owns HBO, John Oliver's own damn station.
Yeah.
What a dick!
Yeah, well, I would agree with you.
Yeah.
So everyone's evil except Spectrum.
Yeah.
For people who watch John Oliver and like it, this is kind of an interesting little post I picked up some time back, and I don't even know where it came from.
But it was from a chat, not a chat room, but a forum.
I ended up pulling up an episode.
This guy's going on back and forth.
A subject of John Oliver came up when a colleague, a fellow psychologist, a couple of professionals, were discussing politics a few months ago, though we were both in agreement regarding the general shit-lib insanity or inanity of the HBO show.
My friend was surprised when I explained that the real insidiousness of it is unmistakably hypnotic structure and pacing.
I ended up pulling up an episode or two of the YouTube.
Oh, this is an old analysis, yeah.
Yeah, we never read it on the show.
All of the segments I've ever seen from this show follow the same repetitive format, present some argumentation and facts for about 10 seconds, and quickly follow these up with a snarky quip, which themselves are overwhelmingly take the form of complete non-sequiturs or otherwise absurd metaphors.
Before any rational processing of the preceding argument can take place in the mind of the viewer, further telling is that the only beats or mental pauses in the show's pacing exist solely to highlight the approving laughter or applause of the studio audience.
Repeat this basic formula without variation 20 to 40 times in a row, and you have one of the 12 to 20-minute segments that form the backbone of the show.
The end effect is obviously not to deliver information, but rather to literally teach the viewers on a subconscious level to mentally associate derisive laughter with any person or opinion that is at odds with the narrative's take on the chosen issue.
And it's accomplished this by maintaining a strict adherence to a roughly 20-second cycle in which a stimulus is presented and a response is cued.
It's like doing a line of coke every 20 seconds.
This is the sense in which the show is fundamentally hypnotic in effect, even more so than its precursors in the genre, Daily Show, Colbert, etc.
Yep.
And that's what he does.
He prints something up, then he has some crazy metaphor, and everyone laughs, because, you know, and then he goes back, and then back and forth, and back and forth.
Putin's cock holster idea.
Yeah, but that's, yeah, yeah.
But that's not as structured as, Colbert's stuff is not structured like this.
Agreed, agreed, agreed.
These bits, when you look at any one of them that Oliver does, they're extremely structured.
There are two stories about this, one about this and another one, both about the, people have no idea what's happening in the world around them when it comes to technology.
So Oliver said, hey everybody, go flood the FCC's website and tell them that you want net neutrality.
So he has a call to action.
Some other group, which I'm going to think is maybe not individuals, who knows, decided they were going to use, they're going to inundate with basically kind of a denial of service attack almost.
They're flooding the FCC websites with get rid of your dumb regulations.
They're using VPNs.
And so now it's like, wow, wait a minute, this is not fair.
It's like, come on, this is like the podcast awards all over again.
Are you kidding me?
You don't know how this works?
It turns out, no.
Because the same thing is happening with Billboard's music chart.
Now, Billboard, what's left of it, they calculate their chart, their Hot 100, to a large extent based on money transactions, which is streams played.
So the diehard Harry Styles music fans, Harry Styles, I think, was from some boy band.
I forget the name.
Yeah, I can't think of the name.
Boy band.
He was on one of the shows the other night.
And so now they're using VPNs.
Just because he's run off with a blogger.
And now they're using VPNs everywhere to stream his song thousands of hours to get it to go up the charts.
One Direction, that was the name of it.
One Direction.
And of course, Billboard's like, oh yes, we have technology to combat it.
No, you don't!
You don't.
You have no technology to combat that.
It's my favorite.
Of course not.
Grep.
Every VPN that you know.
Just a whole bunch of grip pipes, all one after another.
Out pops a list of truths.
But, you know, people have no idea what is going to happen to them.
I'm very, very bearish on the whole connected economy thing.
Yeah?
Well, I'm not going to take the other side.
No, I wouldn't if I were you.
Because there's plenty of evidence this won't end well.
Well, that's coming sooner than later when the bond collapse happens.
I did have this little tidbit I picked up from RT. Humanity birthed the internet only a few decades ago, and we still have yet to understand what we just did.
Just like when we flipped on the lights for the first time, we have no idea what we just brought.
What we do know so far about the Internet, though, is that it's changing everything.
And according to Magna, an ad-buying agency owned by the Inner Public Group, the Internet is wreaking havoc on the television industry.
They assert that TV ratings have dropped a whopping 33% in the last four years, which is nuts.
And in the current TV season, our big networks have lost 8% of their audience.
So fewer viewers than ever are tuning in to the idiot box, instead choosing to tune in to the internet, whatever kind of idiot box that'll turn out to be.
And not only are people tuning out in droves, but also according to Magna, ad prices have risen about 20% during that same period.
So the TV industry is demanding more money from advertisers while offering fewer eyeballs to see their ads.
Which is a bad deal for advertisers, obviously.
So now they're starting to buy fewer ads.
And as a result, ad sales in the US TV market are now beginning to slump.
And that's a big deal because advertisers keep the idiot box alive.
That's who pays for all the shows.
Corporations who make ads to brainwash people into buying the crap during commercials.
And now they're starting to not want to pay for those ads.
Which means that the TV industry looks like it's going to be the next victim of the internet.
No, it's been in a very slow motion collapse.
And as predicted, even though iHeartRadio is formerly...
Clear Channel.
Clear Channel, right?
Thank you.
Bought out by Mitt Romney's company, Bain Capital.
Saddled with $24 billion in debt.
We don't know how they're going to do, but Emmes, who also own a lot of radio stations, they were selling off radio stations this week.
One after another.
Just boom.
Stock was going crazy.
It's probably not a bad time to dump them because the price of radio stations has not completely collapsed.
Right.
They're getting out where they can.
But I've been doing a lot of interviews on podcasts in the past week or two because they were launching...
You have?
Yeah, I'm launching my Podcast Pro Box.
So what podcasts have you been on?
I've been on some Dutch podcasts.
I've been on Todd Cochran from Blueberry.
I've been on the Podcast Pickle Guy, Gary.
The Podcast Pickle?
Yeah, the Podcast Pickle Guy.
He does the podcast movement.
Okay.
Yeah, and so, you know, and every single one of them all talk about, you know, there's no agenda, there's value for value, this is really incredible.
And everyone's starting to see the light, especially now, you know, with the YouTubers not getting any more money because, hey, it was only a matter of time before the advertisers woke up and went, hey, we live in a new world, you can't put that next to anything edgy.
Yeah, they finally got the clue about brand safe.
Yeah, brand safe content.
Yeah, you can't do that.
Or you say something funky and then people go after your advertisers.
Right.
It's not the way to go anymore.
You can't monetize the open network.
It just doesn't work.
It's my mantra.
And people are seeing that.
Look at it.
It's failing.
Now, I'm not against advertising.
Advertising works in many different scenarios.
And I enjoy it often.
But don't tell me, like, you've got some secret great formulas working out well.
But living on it?
No.
No, no, no.
You're always somebody's bitch.
And if I want to be anyone's bitch, it's our producers.
I'm gonna show myself old by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on no agenda in the morning.
Well, in fact, we do have a few people to thank for episode nine.
What is it?
Two eights.
Nine or two eights.
Nine or two eights.
And we will begin with, let's see what we got here.
We got Officer Kevin Dills, the Baron of Mecklenburg County, is our high donor.
He says ITM from Euroland.
So he's not in Mecklenburg County, Charlotte, North Carolina.
He's in Euroland.
He wants some travel karma.
He's a knight.
He's an established knight.
We'll do that, of course.
You've got karma.
That's 128.64.
Charles Bennett from McCall, Idaho, $101.01.
Gaskin Garcia in San Ramon, Cartago, CR, I don't know, Costa Rica, $101.00.
And he says, here's my donation, second donation, $101.00.
After seven months of listening, I need urgent dedouching.
My friend...
Fabrizio needs to be called a douchebag.
Douchebag!
Because he still listens and he doesn't donate.
Thanks for the dose of sanity.
You've been de-douched.
Alright, there you go.
Onward with Sir Stuart Morrison in South Yarra, Australia.
Melbourne.
Yeah.
He wants some karma for his final exam to become an orthopedic surgeon in three weeks.
Yes, we'll give that to you at the end.
You gotcha.
Sir Brett Mahoney in North Quincy, Massachusetts, 100.
You got a birthday.
James Blanchard, we got a huge list.
James Blanchard in Lafayette, Colorado, 99,999.
Anonymous, 8483.
You know who you are.
Giles Pavot in Paris, France.
One of our few French listeners.
Gilles.
Not Giles.
Gilles.
He's British.
Might be.
He's in Paris.
He says cheers.
How British does Pavot sound to you?
Pavot doesn't sound, but cheers always sounds British to me.
Gilles.
Who says cheers?
Gilles de la Tourette.
Sir Peter...
Bokelmon.
Bokelmon.
Oh, he's the Dutch.
Houten.
Houten.
It's the woods.
What does he say here?
I was audited by the Dutch IRS and had to surrender my PayPal statements over the past 12 years under threat of flogging by my owners in the capital.
As I was trying to explain the mothership boarding pass, I couldn't...
What is this mothership boarding pass you're trying to claim?
I could not help but notice my donations to your subversive enterprise had reached a total of over $2,000.
I've been giving $33.33 since 2011.
I top it off with a boob, 8008, and would like to be known as Surrendered to Slaves.
Surrendered to Slaves.
To receive, just send us your cash jingle.
Well, how about that?
And he's...
Well, so he gets a knighting and he gets a baronet.
Yeah, upgraded right away.
Wow, that's fantastic.
That's a good story.
Yeah, let me play this.
What is this no agenda thing?
I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
Just send your cash.
That is a good story.
Hey, what is the...
Hey, tell me about this.
What is this mothership boarding pass you're trying to take off your taxes, yes?
What is that?
That's my Dutch IRS accent.
Hope you're impressed.
Sir Roadwolf of the Tonawanda comes in.
He came with our...
Burkleman came in with a boob, and so Sir Roadwolf of Tonawanda, boob, 8-0-0-8, Jeffrey Stekroth, boob.
I didn't even have a boob thing on this show, on this last newsletter.
The boob is strong, John.
You don't need to.
Kevin Thomas, Smyrna, Georgia, boob.
Annie Lennon, boob.
She says, biggest boobs ever.
Nice!
Stephan Ritchie, 7777 from Pine Bluff, Arkansas.
Kimberly Feliciano, 7777.
Sir Brian Green of Hams is the 7373.
And I gave Eric his thing he put has noted.
There's no note ever from Brian Green of Hams.
It's just his call sign, which he should have put in there.
Yeah, well, as we say, 7373.
7373.
Adrienne...
Drinkin'.
Drinkin'.
Drinkin' as in drinkin'?
Yeah, drinkin'.
She says, happy birthday to me.
Is she on the list?
Yep.
Okay.
Don Bean.
Sir Beans of the Conejos.
Sir Bean of the Conejos.
69, 69.
Very long note, which we'll read to ourselves.
Paul Davies in Brisbane, Queensland, 66.
Oh, no, no.
I'm sorry.
I need to read this note.
Okay.
Okay.
This is from Don Bean, Sir Bean of the Conejos.
Time-sensitive.
Greetings, Abraham and Jedediah.
This is my humble request.
Ask Adam to provide the annual no-agenda prognostication of the upcoming Eurovision 2017 contest finals this Saturday.
Okay.
This gay no-agenda night will be joining, my preferred pronoun, his, thank you very much, LGBTQIA community at the precinct downtown LA, it's a gay bar, to watch the show live, stream on a big screen with big sound and big queens and bears, I'm sure.
I must arm myself with no-agenda perspective on the final 26 entrants, including the host country, Ukraine, and their feud with Russia, effectively kicking them out of the competition that only DTBPITU can provide.
To show a token of my appreciation for Adam's hard work and research, I offer up this contribution of 6969 because you can never get enough 69s.
And now, Adam, regarding episode 927, your Gucci short-wearing rejection from the gay couple in your building.
You remember the story, John, where I felt like a woman.
You were womanized.
Yeah, I was abused.
Yeah, you were.
Adam, your Gucci shorts wearing rejection from the gay couple in your building.
I have a different take.
You should be honored.
The fact that he made an effort to even judge you says to me that something about you caught his eye that he liked.
Then something else set that off, namely your sweaty, messy appearance from just moving boxes.
Hello, sister.
Get a clue.
I say, let him see you all done up in decent threads, hair just right on date night with the smoke and Tina the Keeper walking arm in arm.
I'm pretty sure you'll both get two thumbs up and most likely a big smile to boot.
Just a thought from the other side of the rainbow.
Honorably yours, friend of Dorothy.
Alrighty.
It's a friend of Dorothy.
Well, let's give him the insight.
I have not followed a word of this, of course, because I don't care about the Eurovision anything, but you do.
I know you're a closet Eurovision fan, so let's get, just give us a quickie.
France.
Why?
France needs it.
France needs it because, you know, we have the new guy in.
We need some solidification.
It's always geopolitical.
It can't be Ukraine because they won.
That's why it's the host country.
It's not going to be Russia because Ukraine kicked them out.
Right.
It's not going to be Britain because screw those.
Well, it could be.
But they never win.
They suck so bad.
Okay.
I mean, if they had won entrance once.
No, France is the one that makes the most sense unless North Korea's got an entrant.
Are they in on the Eurovision?
I'm not sure if they participate.
I don't think so.
But I would say France is my initial.
Okay.
That's my feeling.
So I would say France.
Alright, we'll see.
Vive la France en marche!
It's on Saturday, they say?
Yeah, I can't wait.
Fabulous!
I can't wait.
All right, onward.
Paul Davies in Brisbane, Queensland, 66-66.
David Ritchie, 55-17.
Stephen Smith, double nickels on the dime.
Glenn Spangler, 5432.
Charles Couch in Broomfield, Colorado, 5280.
Call my friend Kyle out for being a douchebag.
Got it!
Douchebag!
Uh...
James Frost in Lost Wages, Nevada, 5151.
Kevin Derbyshire in Ajax, Ontario, California, 5150.
And he becomes a knight today after, let's see, he said my first donation was February 17th, 2010, right around episode 175.
Wow.
That's fantastic.
That is.
What do you call a knight from a forgotten six-plus-year layaway plan?
I don't know.
Fortunate.
William Miller.
Now, these are Mother's Day's donations, so if there's a mom mentioned, we'll mention her.
This is from William Miller, 5140, and my Mother's Day, I did it, but I was going to take a hint, donate, mom, oh, donate, donate, mom, money's tight, time you're hard.
Times are hard.
Times are hard.
He uses the letter R. Yeah.
So it's a little bit of a timer hard.
Get your effin' Mother's Day card.
I don't know what he said.
Here's your effin' Mother's Day card.
Wish I could afford to do more.
No, it's nice.
You'll appreciate it.
Especially listening to boobs.
Boobs.
Yeah.
Sir Vasquez in Denver.
And it's a Mother's Day greeting from Sir Vasquez.
Okay.
William Murr in St.
Charles, Illinois.
5140.
Nobody's mentioned.
To his mom.
Ward Detweiler.
Or Willer.
And he's got...
What has he got here?
As a devout dimension beer, my mom would be horrified by this show.
Keep up the good work.
And happy Mother's Day to Kathy Lee.
All right, Kathy Lee.
Happy Mother's Day.
Derek Boggs, Happy Mother's Day to my wife, April, and Mother Barbara.
Aaron Lambert in Tumwater, Washington, to Tana Lambert, Happy Mother's Day.
Joshua Dennis in Arrington, B.C. He's at 5130, so he's underneath.
That's a birthday donation for his lovely wife, Sandra.
Oh.
This is a birthday, yeah, okay.
Onward, the following people are $50 donors, name and location.
We have very few of the Mother's Day ones.
I expect there'll be tons on Sunday.
Like, oh crap!
Hey mom, I tried to send you a card, but you know, the show's only on Sunday.
Perfect.
Michael DiNapoli, Bill Cameron, Charlotte, North Carolina, Jesse Nolet in Arlington, Texas.
Basker Dandona in Birmingham, UK. Leon Stefanski in Swatham, Norfolk, UK. Two UKs there.
Lego Stefanski?
Leon Stefanski?
Leon Stefanski.
Lego?
I said Lego.
You did!
Richard Gardner, Kurt, parts unknown, Josephus von Weldhoven in Eindhoven.
Very good.
Thank you.
Larry May.
Hey, Larry Hay.
Larry Hay.
Stop.
Stop for a minute.
Just stop.
What's going on?
Well, what's going on?
I have to kind of peer over the mic.
Okay.
And the mic is blind.
So I'm only seeing it through one eye.
Well, maybe you shouldn't be laying down on the chaise.
Maybe you should sit up.
Well, I'll finish it off.
Drew Mochak in El Cerrito over here.
You should get in on it.
We're going to do the train trip thing soon.
So be on the newsletter.
David Peet in Aubrey, Texas.
And Kyle Meyer in Atlanta, Georgia is our last guy.
Yes.
Okay.
Very good.
Thank you all so much, everybody.
And also people who came in under $50, typically for reasons of anonymity.
Sorry.
It's a lot of speculation about what's wrong.
About what?
About why you're having trouble reading some of the spreadsheet today.
I always have trouble on the big read.
I don't have trouble on the small read.
It's the big read.
The big read does it every time.
Yeah, I get tired.
I just wanted to mention quickly, since we're planning this Australia trip, well, beside the fact that you were absolutely right, the route I had set out is insane.
The cost of that is like 10 grand just for coach flights.
Well, that adds to the insanity.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, working on that.
Well, you know, the United States is one of the few countries in the world where you can bounce around.
You can't get Southwest cheap flights.
You can fly all over the place.
It really doesn't cost a lot.
You can get to Detroit for very little money, for example.
Yeah, but also, we had so much.
This is not the same everywhere else.
We also had a lot of flights.
It was just crazy.
So, we're working on it.
We're paring it down for obvious reasons.
Paring it down.
The stops is my recommendation.
A little crazy.
Ah, anyway, thank you again, everybody.
It's highly appreciated.
Support us for the Sunday show, in which I will be discussing more of the American Health Care Act.
We got some great feedback from our producers.
We just don't have time today.
I can already see we're going to run out, and I really want to take a little time, because, John, you'll enjoy it as well.
But support us for that program on Sunday at Dvorak.org.
Everybody needs some karma, certainly those who need it for jobs.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
It's your birthday, birthday.
I'm so much in here.
Well, quite the list today.
We start off with Adrienne Drinkanen, who celebrates today, I think.
Jim Burlingame says happy birthday to his son, Jacob, celebrated on the 5th of May.
Kimberly Feliciano, happy birthday to her husband, Tony Crowe.
Sir Fiber Knight celebrates today.
Laura Wilson, happy birthday to husband, Austin, celebrating tomorrow.
Kevin Dills will be 31 tomorrow.
Sir Brett Mahoney, 29 on the 13th.
Sir Peter Belkomont celebrating.
Joshua Dennis says happy birthday to his lovely wife, Sandra, on the 13th of May.
William Miller on the 14th.
And Paul Davis says happy birthday to his gorgeous wife, Melissa, celebrating her birthday on May 17th.
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
Happy birthday, yeah!
One breath.
That's it.
Just one breath.
Come on.
Come on.
Props.
I need some props.
You need to forget about it.
All right.
Yeah.
Hey!
That's right!
He will become a knight, but we usually...
Well, I guess I should have done it in a different sequence, so...
We do congratulate the future Sir Peter Belkumung with his baronet status on his 3333 layaway plan, which means it is time to...
Blade?
Ah, close enough.
All right, Peter Belcomon and Kevin Derbyshire, step on up to the podium, gentlemen.
Both of you have completed your quest.
That's right.
First stop here is at the No Agenda Roundtable of the Knights and Dames.
You have both supported the program sufficiently, so we thereby proudly pronounce the KD, Sir Kevin of Derbyshire and Sir Peter Belcomon.
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Thank you again, everybody.
It's really appreciated.
Ooh, let me breathe.
Well, that was good.
I have a number of SJW, BLM, LGBT, QQIAAP stories we could handle.
Well, I have some actual news I want to get out of the way.
Oh, damn.
Okay.
You and your news.
News.
Yes.
Me and the news.
News that you will not hear in this country.
At all.
Ever.
And this one in particular, the Jakarta blasphemy case is going on.
The governor of the Indonesian capital, Jakarta, has been found guilty of blasphemy.
Basuki Jahia Pranama, who was Christian, received a two-year jail term.
Now, it's a much harsher punishment than prosecutors had called for.
The trial was widely seen as a test of religious tolerance in the Muslim-majority country.
Reactions there have been sharply divided.
Shocked and angry protesters shout for the release of Jakarta's Christian former governor.
Basuki Chahaya Purnama, also known as Ahok, was convicted of insulting Islam by quoting a verse from the Koran in a critique of a Muslim political opponent.
His supporters insist the conviction is a miscarriage of justice.
I don't have breath.
We're disappointed.
The law is blind.
It can no longer tell between right and wrong.
Ahok has sacrificed being governor, and we accepted that.
Now he's innocent, yet accused of blasphemy.
We are disappointed in the law in Indonesia.
Purnama was Jakarta's first non-Muslim governor in half a century.
The court sentence is harsher than many expected, sparking concerns about growing religious intolerance in Indonesia.
Minorities, including Christians, have been increasingly targeted.
Outside the courtroom, conservative Muslim groups said Purnama should be punished even more harshly for his comments.
Two years is very lenient, in my opinion, for Purnama.
Compared to the pain of Muslims and the sacrifices made by Muslims, including the nation, that was almost wrecked by the crime of Ahok the Blasphemer.
Thousands of police officers were deployed to prevent clashes between critics and supporters of Purnama.
The former governor says he will appeal the verdict.
Now, what exactly did he do?
Well, don't forget, it almost brought down the government.
The whole country.
Great crime.
Okay, I have the verse, curiously.
Wait a minute.
You're going to repeat the same thing that almost brought down Indonesia on the...
Yeah, almost brought them down, and it's just great pain to them.
Wait, wait.
You're going to repeat that here on this show, putting our show at risk?
I don't think it's going to put the show at much risk.
So here's what he did.
The guy that's running against him, he's the guy who ran the place, Jakarta.
And so the guy started throwing the Koran at the voters because the place is largely Muslim and they had to obey this one.
And so he repeated it himself, criticizing the guy for using it.
Oh, you who have believed, do not take the Jews and Christians.
This is 5, 5 colon 5.
I'm sorry, 5 colon 52.
You guys can look it up.
up in some of the Quran, Al-Karim.
Do not take the Jews and Christians as allies.
They are, in fact, allies of one another.
And whoever is an ally to them among you, then indeed is one of them.
Indeed, Allah, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.
So what he said was that the guy running us is, And he started, you know, he would read these kinds of things.
There's a lot of anti-Christian, anti-Jewish stuff in the Koran, if anyone wants to read it.
No, it does.
And they were using that as leverage to get to win the vote.
And so this guy reads from the Koran, which I guess, using it against the guy, using the Koran, I guess, as a weapon, was the blasphemy that almost brought down the country.
Oh, interesting.
No, you wouldn't hear that.
And this brings me back to that Curtis documentary, where he showed that the whole idea of Sharia law and suicide bombing, as suicide is expressly forbidden in the Quran, that it was Ayatollah Khomeini, the supreme leader of Iran, who started with this and said, hey, you know what?
It's okay now.
And they started by, I think they took young boys into Afghanistan to walk across the minefield to blow themselves up so the Iranian army could then run through it.
Yeah.
Holy moly.
It's cheap.
Yeah.
But why not use the girls?
Why use the boys?
It's nuts.
Well, yeah.
Well, there's that.
So anyway, so there's a story that won't be...
No, that's really good.
It'll never show up in American media because, you know, it's a bad life.
It puts a bad light on the Muslims, and we're not like that anyway.
So we made a huge mistake.
We are guilty of huge cultural appropriation.
I feel extremely bad about it.
You probably feel worse about it than I do.
We appropriated Mexican culture.
By celebrating Cinco de Mayo with money, no less.
What is Cinco de Mayo?
Why did the Mexicans celebrate it?
Cinco de Mayo was the Battle of Puebla, which is the first time the Mexican army beat back the French army, which was planted in Mexico to take over the southern parts of the United States, if you want to really look at it from an old conspiracy.
The British were going to get the top half of the United States, and the French were going to get the bottom half of the United States, which they used to own.
I had big pieces of.
And that was the idea because it was assumed by the Europeans that the United States would be split in half permanently and they could easily be overtaken by the influences of the French and the British.
And they could also get the gold in California, which is what they were after.
Oh, okay.
This is good.
In other words, we as Americans have plenty of reason to celebrate Cinco de Mayo, whether it's a Mexican celebration or not.
We probably have more reason.
They saved our ass.
We saved our ass.
Well, they didn't really save anybody's ass, but they did a good job of winning this one battle.
Listen, if it weren't like that, Mimi might have armpit hair.
Come on.
There you go.
It's possible.
Well, you, sir, because you know the history, would be allowed to wear a colorful poncho on Cinco de Mayo.
In celebration.
However, if you're just some crazy white dude roaming around the streets having a good time, like we do with St.
Patrick's Day, I'm not Irish, but we drink beer, we puke green, the Chicago River, it's all cultural appropriation.
As witness, two social justice warriors attack a young man who's quite calm, actually.
Who's really like, what is going on here?
He's wearing a poncho on San Clemente.
He's celebrating in the streets like everybody else.
But no!
My name is Michael.
I am not making a racial statement.
I'm celebrating a holiday and having fun.
I'm telling you that this is not celebrating.
I love every person, every color, no matter what they are.
I'm having fun.
I'm celebrating.
And I'm telling you that this is not the appropriate way to celebrate a holiday.
You're taking it a step too far and I think you're making too big a deal out of it.
That's how you feel about it because you're not a part of that culture.
I hope we can agree to disagree.
Why?
I'm being peaceful.
I'm not offending anybody.
Can I tell you why that's not funny?
This stuff actually affects people's lives, and I don't think you understand that.
You're perpetuating the stereotype, Michael.
It's not just about you wearing it.
It's about you as a man, a white man, who has the biggest privilege in this whole fucking country, knowing what's happening in this country right now.
Okay, so how is this celebrating?
How is this celebrating?
No!
I'm a college student.
Do you even know what the holiday means?
Can you tell me the history of Hanson Cole?
I don't care.
I'm here to...
That is not celebrating!
You get the idea.
It's just insane.
It's great.
Coming up in about a month, a little bit more, five weeks, you have the big gay pride...
I'm sorry.
Oh, wow.
Woo!
The pride...
It's called Pride.
Pride.
You said Big Gay?
I said Big Gay Pride Parade is what I wanted to say.
Wrong.
Pride.
We have Pride coming up in San Francisco.
There's no gay involved in this anymore?
Yeah, but it's LGBT, BBQQ, the whole thing.
But the gay community...
It used to be gay.
Yeah.
The LGBTQIA community has a memo to straight allies.
That would be us, John.
We're allies of the gays.
I'm not an enemy.
I live in the San Francisco Bay Area.
I better be an ally.
Okay.
Well, you better adhere to these six rules.
I will follow the rules to the letter.
Dear straight allies, please don't come to Pride until you've understood these six things.
Are you ready?
Be careful, John.
Okay.
We hold Pride each summer to commemorate the Stonewall Riots of 1969.
Is that right?
Well, here it is.
The first Pride was a police riot.
At the time, most states had laws banning LGBT people from assembling in groups.
Despite being illegal, the mob opened LGBT bars to profit off the open discrimination of our community.
The bars were the only safe space for LGBT people and were frequently raided by police officers looking for bribes, and I think blowjobs.
Tired of harassment and discrimination, the patrons of the Stonewall protested and began a series of actions that turned into several days of riots.
At its peak, more than 1,000 people took to the streets of Greenwich Village in one of the first organized displays of LGBT protests.
The mostly transgender patrons of color at the Stonewall are credited with starting the LGBT civil rights movement.
So you'll see sequins, rainbows, parade floats, pool parties sponsored by Absolute.
But understand that Pride is equal parts a celebration, a protest, and a community-building event.
It's the one time a year when we can come together and be surrounded by the family we choose because our bodies and our identities are still policed by the government, religious groups, and even the people we love.
We reserve Pride as the opportunity to express ourselves in the way that is most authentic to our community.
Sometimes that's by drunkenly singing Robin songs at the top of our lungs, and sometimes it's by crying during the eulogy for our murdered trans sisters.
We're allowed to have multiple feelings simultaneously as we celebrate our wins and mourn our losses as a community.
So you remember that!
Can I ask you a question?
Please.
The San Francisco Pride Parade will take place June 24th through 25th.
The Stonewall Riots were on June 28th.
This doesn't sound like much of a match.
Maybe it's not a good day.
Maybe they need to do the weekend.
The King's Day is not the King's birthday any day.
That's okay.
I'm okay with that.
But this is one for you, Dvorak.
The 28th is a Sunday.
Oh, no, I'm sorry.
I'm looking at the wrong month.
Okay.
Maybe that's the reason.
Number two.
Kind of that time.
Number two.
A dyke bar during Pride is not the place to look for your unicorn.
This apparently is egregious.
I don't know what they're talking about.
As a femme-presenting queer woman, I've been hit on by cisgender men and couples in queer settings more times than I can count.
Some queer women are attracted to men, some aren't.
We go to LGBT spaces to be around other LGBT people and celebrate our identity with people who are like us.
Sure, there may be people...
Isn't that discriminatory, kind of?
Well, you can join, but you can't do this.
Sure, there may be people who are interested in your advances, but there will also be people who will be offended and made to feel unsafe.
Pride should first and foremost be a safe space for LGBT people.
Keep this in mind and consider arranging your ménage à trois with folks who say they're interested online before the events.
So don't try and go pick up bisexual women for the threesome.
Do not.
I don't think that's going to happen anyway.
I don't think so either.
Number three.
And by the way, these threesomes aren't that common.
But anyway, go on.
And I hear they're overrated.
Go on.
Number three, do not take pictures or snaps of us without permission.
Now, this is a tough one.
This is why people go.
I'd say that's right, but you're parading down the street and you can't...
Isn't a parade for taking pictures?
You're going to see leather folks, drag performers, transgender people, non-binary people, nakedness, gender fuckery, and some wild outfits.
We're not here to be a spectacle for you.
We're here to...
We're here to celebrate with folks who are like us.
Don't post photos of us on social media as a way to be edgy or to show your superior open-mindedness.
And don't make fun of us on the internet.
We don't exist for your amusement.
Okay.
Ready for...
Number four?
By the way, that last one, number three?
Yeah.
Ain't gonna happen.
Go on.
Well, there it is.
Number four.
If your thought process is, quote, gays are okay, but I don't get the whole trans thing, don't come to pride!
That's interesting.
Yeah, maybe you want to go learn about it.
It's possible.
Now, this one I agree with.
Number five.
So there's going to be a lot of guys...
Okay.
Yeah, go on.
Just write down the rules and follow them.
I'm not writing down nothing.
Pride is not the appropriate venue for your girls' night, your bachelorette party, or your misogyny.
Now, I agree with this.
I see this.
Now, I have to assume by that particular edict...
That a lot of that's going on.
Yes, I think this is going on.
Lots of straight women have told me they love going to gay bars because they can dance and celebrate without the presence of come-ons from men.
I've seen drunken sorority girls climb on stage and attempt to make the show about them.
I've seen women get a bit too intoxicated and attempt to make out or grope gay men slurring, Gay show doesn't count.
That's a good one, by the way.
You're gay, so it doesn't count.
I've seen equally disgusting actions with gay men and lesbians, so let's not pretend.
Disgusting sorority girls.
Yes.
This happens.
This happens.
Anyway.
Six in the final one there.
You're a guest in our space.
Act accordingly.
City property, it seems to me, isn't it?
The important takeaway here is not that LGBT people hate straight or cis folks.
Yes, they do from that list.
It seems like it.
Not even about the presence of straight or cis folks at Pride in general.
They really don't want us there.
It's about when straight or cis folks behave in inappropriate and culturally insensitive ways that threaten or dampen the experiences of LGBT people at events that are made for us in the first place.
Straight slash cis folks can go to any party and feel comfortable dancing, holding hands and making out with their significant other or hottie of the night without feeling they could be in danger because of their identity.
LGBT people do not always have that luxury if you choose to go to Pride, be a supportive observer, and participate in activities, but don't try to be the focus of the event.
Man, there's a lot of...
So really, the way I read this, is there's a huge...
It's not even a presumption, there's a...
I guess they feel like people are trying to appropriate gay culture.
Hello?
There you go.
I just appropriated gay culture just by doing that alone.
Right there.
But gay culture is very important.
It apparently should stay within the gay community.
30 years after two snaps and a Z formation.
Come on!
That has influenced culture to the extreme.
But we can't do that now because we're appropriating your culture?
And who are you to tell me how I celebrate my sexuality?
Maybe I'm one of you and don't want to tell.
There's a whole bunch of things.
It's just fucked.
It is.
And I'm disappointed in this.
Burn the list.
I'm sure these people don't represent the whole LGBTQIA community or its allies.
These are the uptight gays.
This is not American, what you're doing right here.
We know how to party with gays.
We're good at it.
We like it.
It's the one time when the cis folks get to be, you know, crazy like you.
I think we're secretly a little envious.
I don't even go to the event.
Come on.
Too much traffic problems.
You can't get over it.
You can't get back.
Forget it.
Let's see.
Okay.
Well, there's only the same lines.
Okay, I have one more.
Another gay thing?
Another social justice warrior?
Well, something that affects us.
There was a Tennessee Supreme Court case.
About same-sex divorce.
And so one of the women had gotten artificial insemination, and so they came, I'm just paraphrasing, it came down to a custody battle, and at a certain point came the equivalency of the husband role.
So, in divorce and with custody rights, it's very clear between a man and a woman, but not so between two people of the same gender.
And now the Knox County judge granted one of the women the rights of a husband.
Which means, you know, that's a thing that can be given away.
You know, anyone can be...
So, you know what I'm saying?
This is really weird.
I don't know.
They've got to do something.
They don't have to base it on the laws that are in that area.
Yeah, but how can you grant a woman the rights of a husband?
Well, did she want to be the husband?
Well, she said that she performed as a husband.
Okay, then she gets the rights.
I mean, that's what she wanted, and I don't see what the problem is.
All right, I just want to make sure that we all know what's happening here.
It's a little...
Mind meldy.
I mean, why does it even have to be based on that at all?
Well, that's another question.
That's a sociological issue, not a legal issue, what you just said.
Okay.
You're up.
Betsy DeVos.
Oh, God.
She gives a speech and she gets booed.
And then they do a shut-up slave moment and everyone shuts up.
Dr.
Jackson, Board of Trustees, thank you so very, very much for this great honor and privilege.
I am honored to become a Wildcat.
In Daytona Beach, Florida, many graduating students booed or turned their backs on Education Secretary Betsy DeVos as she spoke today at Bethune-Cookman University.
In February, DeVos said such historically black schools were pioneers in school choice.
She later acknowledged they were established because African Americans were banned from many colleges.
At one point, the university president warned the crowd that if the booing continued, their degrees would be mailed to them.
It's exciting after that.
Oh, boy.
And this was a black college?
Yeah, small black college.
Fabulous.
Way to go.
Way to go, everybody.
We have never been so divided.
As a universe...
Well, they're doing it on purpose.
Yes, they are.
Damn it, I'm not going to get to my crazy Trump thing again.
I have one kind of a crazy clip.
All right, this will be the last one, so make it count.
How long is this?
This clip's a little long.
I'll save this for the next show.
I got the no-fly zone thing.
Oh, I was watching.
Play the VW dividend.
This is a great way to get around a problem when your stock is collapsing because you're getting these billions of dollars in fines because of the...
Dieselgate.
He said he would ask the board to increase the company's dividend this year from 11 cents to 2 euros per share.
That would mean VW pouring out 20% of its profits.
In the future, that could even reach 30%.
It's some comfort to...
Wow!
Did the stock spike?
Did it go crazy on that news?
Well, that's great news.
It's definitely, yeah, didn't go down.
So the reason I was having this because I was watching DW and they brought back Helena, your buddy, Helena Humphrey.
Oh, okay.
She's the one who got all bent out of shape because we were commenting on her appearance as TV executives.
Yeah, so she's verified on Twitter, so she's a big deal.
Yeah.
Well, she was following me, I noticed, so I followed her back.
Yeah, she follows me.
She follows me.
So I was watching her latest stuff, and she's got a mouth that's very similar to Anne Hathaway.
Big, luxurious lips.
I think it's part of her attraction.
And I noticed that she wasn't standing in the dress anymore.
She did some standing, but it was in pants.
Oh, no, no.
She heard our show and was like, I'm not going to dress like that anymore.
I'm wearing pants now.
Well, no, she's still wearing those dresses, but she's sitting behind the thing a little bit.
Although, I looked at some of her feed on Twitter, and she has stood a couple of times.
Is she smacking her lips?
No, I don't think she...
No, that would be...
No, she doesn't smack her lips like a lot of these...
The guy who's the anchor on DW... Really smacks his lips a lot.
Did you have anything from Helen?
No, I tried to find something, but you know, she's been very...
I don't have anything.
That's alright.
Then it's Helena.
That's what I mean, Helena.
Woo, everybody!
Okay, let's see what happens today.
It being show day, always something cool or crazy that could go down.
We appreciate the firing in between shows.
That was good.
That was much easier for us.
So keep this timing up, everybody.
It's good.
Yeah, right now it's beautiful.
And let's see, thanks to, what do we have, UKPMX, Danny Luce, Brian Longenecker, and the cast of thousands for the end-of-show jingles, including a revamped version of the Cluedio.
Yay!
Now you're talking.
All right.
Coming to you from the Cludio here in the common law condo in downtown Austin, Tejas, FEMA Region 6.
On the map, if you're looking for me in a crisis.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where there's going to be a pleasant day, probably too windy.
I don't know why I'm giving weather reports all the time, but I think people are interested.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
That's right.
With weather and traffic on the 8th, we are the best podcast in the universe.
We'll be back on Sunday.
Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. Until then...
Adios, mofos!
I was thinking what I would name it, but I have a Cludeo.
That's what I have now, a Cludeo.
Oh, I thought you meant you didn't have a clue.
No, I got it.
There's some jargon, some sort of hipster jargon for clue.
There's a place to That's where I am.
The new studio is in the closet.
I come running anywhere.
It's all I need all my life.
I feel so good if I just say the word.
Blue, blue, blue, blue.
How big is this closet?
Just say the word.
Blue, blue, blue, blue, blue.
Five feet by nine feet.
That's a great detail.
Good, great detail.
Good.
I also want you to know that I am supporting Manuel Macron to leave.
Big friggin' smug bastard.
Follows it up.
Great, great, great.
Good, great, great.
Smug bastard.
It's a great detail.
Good, great, great, great, great.
First, I want to teach you a smug bastard.
Here's all these poor people over here.
Well, let's talk to the rich marketing experts.
Good, great.
Good, good.
Refresh.
I'm a bastard.
Refresh.
Good.
I'm a new macron.
Stir.
Great, great.
Great.
Good.
Refresh.
My goodness.
Lordy, Lordy.
The machine.
I can't remember.
I can't.
Bastard.
I'm a monster.
I'm a monster.
For people, I think that's the first time you've ever used that word.
Lordy.
Good.
Good.
It's refresh.
My goodness.
Good.
It's a sheet from the one.
Good.
Refresh my memory.
It's refresh.
My goodness.
Good.
Good.
Refresh my memory, please.
It's a bottle of the market.
Offer.
Memory.
In the background, some champion.
Great.
Good.
Refresh.
Good.
Good.
A.
One.
Good.
I can't remember. - Good.
Do you have any regrets or are there any things you would do differently?
Yeah, the honest answer is no.
I've asked myself that a million times because, lordy, has this been painful.
The only thing I regret is it may be answering the phone when they called to recruit me to be FBI director when I was living happily in Connecticut.
Hollywood Access tape being made public.
The Russian theft of John Podesta's emails hit WikiLeaks.
request for absolution request for absolution request for absolution what did she do What did she...
What did she do?
Hollywood Access tape.
What a coincidence.
What a coincidence.
Of course that was no coincidence.
What a coincidence.
Of course that was no coincidence.
I mean you just can't make this stuff up.
I mean you just can't make this stuff up.
So, I mean, you just can't make this stuff up.
Oh, yeah, you can.
So, did we make mistakes?
Of course we did.
Of course!
Of course!
Oh, my gosh, yes, you know.
Request for absolution.
Lordy!
That would be really bad.
Look, this is terrible.
It makes me mildly nauseous, but I sat there that morning, and I could not see a door labeled, no action here.
There's no Anthony Weiner statue, but it is, there's already a statue.
Well, maybe we need one.
Lordy!
Lordy!
Lordy, if I said that I misspoke, she forwarded hundreds and thousands of emails, some of which contain classified information.
I'm made of stone.
Zombie armies.
I love this work.
I love this job.
You're fired.
You know what?
You're fired.
Lordy, that would be really bad.
You know what?
You're fired.
Lordy, that would be really bad.
You know what?
You're fired.
Lordy, that would be really bad.
You know what?
You're fired.
And so they came in and said, we can see thousands of emails from the Clinton email domain, including many, many, many from the Verizon Clinton domain, BlackBerry domain.
They said, we think we've got to get a search warrant to go get these.
You know what?
You're fired.
Lordy, that would be really bad.
You know what?
You're fired.
You're fired.
Lordy, that would be really bad.
You know what?
You're fired.
Lordy, that would be really bad.
You know what?
You're fired.
Lordy, that would be really bad.
You know what?
You're fired.
Lordy, that would be really bad.
You know what?
You're fired. You're fired. You're fired.
Lordy, that would be really bad.
You know what?
Lordy. Lordy. Lordy. Lordy. Lordy. Lordy, that would be really bad.
You know what?
Lordy. Lordy. Lordy. Lordy. Lordy. Lordy.
I'm not picking on the attorney general, Leonardo Lynch, who I like very much.
Her meeting with President Clinton on that airplane was the caper for me.
Somehow, her emails are being forwarded to Anthony Weiner, including classified information.