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	A friend of Dorothy.
	Adam Curry.
	John C. Dvorak.
	And it's Thursday, May 4th, 2017.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation media assassination.
	Epidode 9 or 2-6.
	This is no agenda.
	Epidode.
	Epidode.
	Give me another hit for the Epidode.
	I'm leaving this in, by the way.
	That's too funny.
	Epidode.
	Go.
	Hit it.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Thursday, May 4th, 2017.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 9026.
	This is no agenda.
	Managing mental hygiene for the masses and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet in the capital of the drone star state in the Cluedio.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley where we have no Cluedio, I'm John C. Devorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzcast.
	I was thinking what I would name it, but I have a Cluedio.
	That's what I have now, a Cluedio.
	Oh, I thought you meant you didn't have a clue.
	No, I got a clue.
	That's some jargon, some sort of hipster jargon for clue.
	No, no.
	I got no Cluedio, man.
	No, Cluedio is a studio in a closet, you see.
	I see.
	That's where I am.
	The new studio is in the closet.
	How big is this closet?
	Oh, it's pretty sizable.
	I would hope.
	It's one, two, three, four, probably five feet by nine feet.
	That's bigger than most New York apartments.
	Hey, we're in, John.
	We did it.
	We made it.
	I heard that.
	Okay.
	So how is it?
	Ah, it's fantastic.
	Fantastic.
	You know, since Tina and I moved in together, we were able to consolidate.
	So we now have an apartment that doesn't have chilled water for air conditioning, but has an actual air conditioning unit.
	Well, that's going to cost you.
	Yeah.
	The chilled water.
	No, the chilled water was very expensive.
	It was?
	Oh, yeah.
	It's just a fan.
	No.
	In Austin, the way it works is there's a building, a government building with a parking garage near...
	I thought you were talking about a swamp cooler.
	No.
	No.
	So there's some more elaborate system.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They have this huge facility, which makes a real racket.
	It has all these fans on top, and so it's cooling water, and then there's pipelines underneath the downtown area, and it sends off mainly to the government building, but then also to my old apartment building.
	It sends off just this chilled water, and then that's circulated.
	I mean, it's like a recipe for Legionnaire's disease.
	I've never liked it.
	It's got really dry...
	And it didn't work well.
	And now it's like, oh my gosh, I can actually keep it 72 degrees.
	It works okay unless it's hot out.
	Yeah, when it doesn't work well.
	Yeah, so it's nice.
	Yeah, very happy.
	Well, you didn't get Legionnaire's disease.
	That's a plus.
	This Cludio sounds pretty good.
	I think it sounds better than the other one.
	And I have moving blankets hung up all over the wall.
	Ooh, blankets.
	Yes, moving blankets.
	It was the Zephyr.
	Oh, it's got a private car on the end.
	Oh, a nice one, too.
	A Burlington Northern Observation car in chrome.
	Oh, so who do you think that belongs to?
	I don't know.
	Every one of the private cars that goes by looks different enough.
	It could be a renter.
	Who still uses this?
	Who still travels the country?
	Like sports guys?
	Bill Gates uses a private rail car?
	Buffett?
	Really?
	Every year, Gates and Buffett, at least as far as I know, I don't know if they're still doing it, but they used to, every year, go on a journey in a couple private cars, and they'd invite a few friends.
	I never got invited, of course.
	The key word being friends.
	Yeah, and so they'd go floating around, and according to somebody I know personally who was on one of these trips, it was a private...
	Drive through the closed-off tracks down in the Grand Canyon, which normally you can't go on.
	But, of course, they could.
	And so they went on this thing, and according to my mole on the expedition, all Gates and Buffett did the entire time was play...
	I was going to guess.
	I was going to say either Parcheesi or Backgammon Bridge.
	Big time bridge players.
	Don't you need four people to play bridge?
	Yeah, I guess there are two other guys who join in.
	But it was like, the guy says to me, there's these unbelievable views you cannot legally see because you're down on this track inside the canyon.
	And it's just unbelievable.
	It's just like, wow.
	And they're playing bridge.
	Well, they're jaded.
	Yeah, here's a dollar.
	I'll bet you a dollar I can ruin this guy's life.
	Kind of guys.
	Oh, yeah.
	The usual, Mortimer.
	Exactly.
	Anyway, so this was a tiring move.
	I've moved a lot in my life.
	For some reason, it was really tiring.
	But luckily, I got the TV hooked up pretty quickly.
	I thought you hired a bunch of movers.
	Yeah, two men in a truck is what it's called.
	Okay, you hired two men in a truck, so just wore you out saying, a little to the left, a little to the left, that box could be more full, that box could be more full.
	You know it's not like that.
	You know it's not like that.
	But anyway, it doesn't matter.
	I did have a chance to watch a lot or listen to a lot of C-SPAN while moving, so that was good, because there was a ton of stuff.
	Yeah, a lot of stuff.
	We had some good stuff happening.
	We had Comey, which was...
	It's surprising.
	That's like, whoop, all of a sudden there's Comey.
	And, of course, before Comey.
	Do I hear something?
	What do I hear?
	Nothing here.
	Oh, no, I hear it.
	There's construction.
	I could just faintly make it out.
	Hillary Clinton.
	Just open the door and tell them to shut up.
	You're doing a podcast.
	Yeah.
	Hey, hey, hey, hey.
	Podcast has precedence.
	And then, of course, we had, timed perfectly the day before, Hillary's big War on Men interview with Christian Anumpur.
	Did you see any clips from that?
	Yes, I did.
	I didn't even hear it.
	I didn't even watch it.
	I refused to take part in this charade.
	Well, the reason why I was all over this is Hillary's hit list.
	I'm still thinking that she's going after everybody.
	Let me bring it out for you here.
	Let me whip it out for you, John.
	Here we go.
	Hillary's hit list.
	Okay, so the setting is...
	Actually, we got an email from one of our producers.
	Maybe I should read that first.
	Who works there in the venue where this took place?
	Anonymous, of course.
	The big Women for Women international event featuring Hillary and Christiana Nippur happened at the event space in New York City that I work at.
	Thought I'd give you some backstage info.
	First of all, CNN are a bunch of douchebags.
	This is interesting.
	Not that they're douchebags, but during the month-long process of getting this event set up, they kept on wanting to bring in more and more equipment to the event and wanted a six-camera shoot.
	Can you believe this?
	Six cameras?
	What?
	It truly is the Clinton News Network.
	Who needs a six-camera shoot unless they're not using anyone to run the cameras, which is, you know, you'd set up stationary cameras and then you'd do six cameras.
	But if you've got a guy behind the camera, you only need three, maybe two.
	They even wanted to remove tables to make room for their cameras.
	It was about $2,500 ahead for the event.
	Oh, it was a paid event.
	Nice.
	They were shifting.
	Is that mention at the event?
	I don't remember hearing about that.
	No.
	Thank you, CNN, for all the information.
	Right.
	Rich women were sitting there.
	Gotcha.
	Well, to be fair, there was lunch or there was some food.
	CNN was also very shitty at gaffing their cables.
	Well, there you go.
	It's news business.
	They don't care.
	Now, according to our producer here...
	Why should we gaff them when we have to pick them up later?
	Christiane Amanpour and her handler were super cool.
	She has a handler?
	Yes.
	And, well, that's what you call it in show business these days.
	Someone who is getting you to wherever you need to be.
	The assistant to Christiane Amanpour, she usually gets a credit roll.
	Right.
	She and her handler were super, super cool, even early for her call times.
	Wow.
	That's unheard of.
	However, the event was about 25 minutes behind schedule and starting because Hillary didn't leave her hotel on time.
	Well, there's the difference for you right there.
	Well, she was always late during the campaign, too.
	She's a late type.
	Always.
	Always late.
	They just inconvenience everybody else.
	That's fine.
	So they were scheduled to talk for about 30 minutes.
	It was supposed to be a hard out, but they ran over.
	After the talk finished, they were supposed to have a moment and exit the stage, but the final speaker was so excited to get to the podium on stage right.
	She ignored her cue and cut them off.
	I don't know what he's saying here.
	Oh, this caused both of them to sit down in their chairs while the final speaker was doing her big sales pitch.
	Oh, so it was kind of embarrassing.
	They were sitting there, Anupur and Clinton, while the sales pitch was going on.
	That's a mistake in staging.
	So this was a sales pitch.
	Well, who was that?
	I don't know.
	Also, I did accidentally call Hillary Clippity-Clop over the intercom, and everybody was wondering what I was talking about.
	Can you imagine that?
	All right, Dick.
	We need a little more light on Clippity-Clop.
	Uh, what?
	Fantastic.
	Thank you very much to our producer.
	We can assume that any of the women at that event, a $2,500 plate luncheon hamburger, meatloaf, or chicken, doesn't listen to our show.
	What was interesting, right off the bat, as I was watching this, is on screen was a hashtag.
	You put a hashtag on screen so people can tweet or toot about the event.
	And it's all trackable.
	The hashtag, SheBringsPeace.
	I thought that was...
	Lame!
	Well, not just lame, but astoundingly opposite of what she's doing.
	Hillary Clinton is sitting there really causing...
	Well, you'll hear it.
	Causing problems.
	She doesn't give a damn about the fallout and how people are arguing and the split in the dimensions.
	I'm surprised that they weren't honest about it and put hashtag...
	Resist.
	Right.
	Well, here is.
	So this was a lot of this was, of course, about why she lost.
	And we know that's nothing to do with her just sucking.
	It was everything to do with everything else.
	Yes.
	But her such as misogyny.
	Were you a victim of misogyny?
	And why do you think you lost...
	Victim!
	Victim of misogyny!
	It starts off beautiful, doesn't it?
	You're a victim of misogyny!
	Were you a victim of misogyny?
	And why do you think you lost the majority of the white female votes?
	The security moms, the people who want to be protected from the kinds of challenges...
	Is that a category I missed?
	Security moms?
	I never heard that, but it's a new one.
	But to start off, are you a victim of misogyny and then blame women?
	That's kind of misogynist in itself, isn't it?
	In a big way?
	White women.
	It's misogynist.
	Misogynist.
	Were you a victim of misogyny?
	And why do you think you lost the majority of the white female vote?
	The security moms, the people who want to be protected from the kinds of challenges we're talking about right now.
	The wimps who voted for Trump.
	The security moms, the losers.
	It's kind of an insult.
	There's probably half of them in the audience.
	Actually, the ones in the audience probably aren't.
	No, no, no.
	You have to be a Hillary nut to pay $2,500 to hear her now.
	I was going to say, if you're going to pay $2,500, then, you know, you're clearly not just any old security mom.
	You lost the majority of the white female votes.
	The security moms, the people who want to be protected from the kinds of challenges you're talking about right now.
	Right, well, you know, the book's coming out in the fall.
	Oh, yes, this was also a little promo for her book.
	Just to give you a tiny little...
	What is her book?
	Yeah, well, what did she say?
	She said it was a title.
	What was the title?
	But she hasn't given the title yet, but it's all coming out.
	Didn't she say something about the bush came in the fall or something?
	The book is coming out.
	Oh, books.
	The book is coming out in the fall.
	This is the bush.
	No, the...
	Just to give you a tiny little preview, yes, I do think it played a role.
	I think other things did as well.
	Every day that goes by, we learn more about some of the unprecedented interference, including from a foreign power whose leader is not a member of my fan club.
	And so I think...
	It is real.
	It is very much a part of the landscape politically and socially and economically.
	An example that has nothing to do with me personally is this whole question of equal pay.
	We just had Equal Pay Day in April, which is how long women have to work past the first of the year to make the equivalent of what men make.
	You see what she does there?
	Now, the question was, were you a victim of misogyny or was there something else going on?
	And then she promotes her book, says, yeah, men suck, and then she goes straight into how they suck even more because women don't get paid enough.
	The prior year.
	Yeah, like until April.
	Incomparable.
	Isn't that...
	Interesting, that analogy, that we celebrate, you know, equal payday in April because that's how many months women have to work, you know, or the three months, basically, they're working.
	to make the equivalent of what men made the prior year in comparable professions.
	And we know it's a problem in our country.
	It's not something that exists somewhere far away.
	It exists right here.
	And it's really troubling to me that we are still grappling with how to deal in an economy to ensure that people who do the work that is expected of them get paid fairly.
	and equally.
	Equally, yeah.
	Well, we're not even going to debunk that again.
	Don't even bother.
	It's just like impossible to discuss.
	It's fact.
	It's fact.
	So this was the...
	And I like listening to a little more in context of what people say.
	Just cruising through the corporate media, the news channels.
	They just show quick little snippets.
	You don't really get any context.
	I think it's very important.
	So this is a little bit longer, but this is...
	How Hillary Clinton claimed she was on her way to victory until, well, you know, James Comey screwed it all up for her.
	We need a Comey.
	A Comey!
	Don't I have one of those?
	I don't think so.
	I thought we had a really loud Comey.
	We need one for sure.
	He had one message, your opponent, and it was a successful message.
	Make America great again.
	And where was your message?
	Do you take any personal responsibility?
	Oh, of course.
	I take absolute personal responsibility.
	I was the candidate.
	I was the person who was on the ballot.
	Oh, there you go.
	She's personal responsibility for the spelling of her name.
	I am very aware of, you know, the challenges, the problems, the...
	She's aware.
	Very.
	Shortfalls.
	She's woke.
	Shortfalls that we had, again.
	I will write all this out for you, but I will say this.
	Now, what you can't see, it's not even that subtle.
	Because, of course, they had six cameras, so there's a lot of close-ups.
	Did they actually get the six cameras in?
	Well, they got enough for two separate ISO close-ups, so they must have at least five.
	But she has this new mannerism, which is...
	Let me see if I can explain.
	It's kind of like where she tilts her head and puts her chin up a little bit.
	We all know this is fucking lame.
	And she does it over and over and over again.
	Oh, I'd like to see that.
	Oh, you have to.
	Well, she mentioned...
	She plugged herself again right there where she says, I'm going to write this in my book.
	That book is a must-read.
	Well, this book...
	It's not just the book.
	This is, as far as I'm concerned, this is...
	It's her run for 2020.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Or to be ready to jump in.
	Hello.
	For you.
	But I will say this.
	Okay.
	I've been in a lot of campaigns.
	And I'm very proud of the campaign we ran.
	And I'm very proud of the staff and the volunteers and the people who are out there.
	That's the people who are there who volunteer.
	Thank you.
	Yes, yes, we rocked.
	It wasn't a perfect campaign.
	There is no such thing.
	Well, that's what you would know.
	I was on the way to winning until the combination of Jim Comey's letter on October 28th and Russian WikiLeaks.
	I love that.
	Russian WikiLeaks.
	It's not just WikiLeaks.
	We just slip in.
	It's Russian.
	Who else did that?
	Someone else did that.
	It may be Maxine Waters, actually, now that I think about it.
	And Russian WikiLeaks raised doubts in the minds of people who were inclined to vote for me, but got scared off.
	Oh, that's it.
	Intervening event is, I think, compelling, persuasive.
	Oh, sure.
	For you.
	You won't do a red carpet event with me, but you're pretty good at just mumbling through Hillary Clinton.
	You asked for it by playing her.
	All she does is make...
	Say little annoyances.
	Yeah, but there's some good stuff.
	I want to make sure you catch it.
	They can hear it.
	I'm sorry.
	I want to make sure you hear it.
	Oh, I'm hearing it.
	We came a lot in the campaign.
	We overcame an enormous barrage of negativity.
	Oh, a barrage now.
	A barrage of negativity.
	Oh, I'm going to write that one down.
	False equivalency.
	False equivalency.
	Well, these, you know...
	False equivalency?
	Specifically, Hillary, what are you talking about?
	I like barrage of negativity.
	I want to know what false equivalence she's talking about.
	All I heard was that Donald Trump is a misogynist douchebag all the time.
	What's the false equivalency?
	She says, well, I'm not a misogynist douchebag.
	I'm just a douchebag.
	Is that what she's talking about?
	I don't know.
	False equivalency and so much else.
	But as Nate Silver, who doesn't work for me, he's an independent analyst.
	Let's just review.
	Nate Silver is the guy who consistently got everything wrong about Donald Trump.
	The reason why he rose to fame with 538 Media, 538 I think, is because he nailed the previous election with Obama-Romney, and he got everything wrong.
	He put Clinton at 1-2%, and now she's going to use him as a reference.
	This is perfect.
	It doesn't work for me.
	He's an independent analyst, but one considered to be very reliable.
	And wrong.
	You know, has concluded, you know, if the election had been on October 27th, I'd be your president.
	Oh.
	If it were on October 27th, I'd be your president.
	There you go.
	But no!
	That's a classic line, by the way.
	October 27th, I'd be your president.
	And it wasn't.
	It was on October 28th, and there was just a lot of funny business going on around that.
	It's very good the way she throws these lines in, you know, among other things.
	When was the election on October 28th?
	Yeah, that's what I thought, too.
	What's she talking about?
	The election's in November.
	I'm going to tell you.
	What she said, what she meant was, if the vote was on October 27th, I would have won, because on October 28th is when Comey came out with his statement.
	Within an hour or two of the Hollywood Access tape being made public, The Russian theft of John Podesta's emails hit WikiLeaks.
	What a coincidence.
	Yeah, it's called the hitting back, I think.
	No, of course that was no coincidence.
	It was ready to drop by the Russian WikiLeaks, of course.
	So, I mean, you just can't make this stuff up.
	Oh yeah, you can.
	She's very good at making it up.
	Of course we did.
	Of course!
	Of course!
	Did I make mistakes?
	Oh my gosh, yes.
	You know, you'll read my confession and my request for absolution.
	Request for absolution?
	What did she do?
	I don't know.
	And who was she requesting it from?
	But the reason why I believe we lost were the intervening events in the last 10 days.
	And I think you can see I was leading in the early vote.
	I had a very strong...
	No, she was leading in the polls, not in the vote, in the polls.
	Not just our polling and data analysis, but a very strong assessment going on across the country about where I was in terms of, you know, the necessary both votes and electoral votes.
	And remember, I did win more than three million votes.
	That's now, wait, she's going to come back.
	And again, with that head movement.
	And I just want to tell you what she's going to do before you hear it again.
	So she says, again, I did win by three million votes.
	And then she comes back to it later.
	But then she does that head to the side, chin up, and then puts her open palm next to her face like she's whispering.
	You know, like, just keep it a secret.
	I won the popular vote.
	You know what I'm saying here?
	I can see it.
	I visualize it.
	Here it comes.
	You know, the necessary both votes and electoral votes.
	And remember, I did win more than three million votes than my opponent.
	So, it's like, really?
	Really?
	I see the tweet coming.
	Well, fine.
	You know, better that than interfering in foreign affairs.
	If he wants to tweet about me, I'm happy to be the, you know, the diversion because we've got lots of other things to worry about.
	And he should worry less about the election and my winning the popular vote than doing some other things.
	Yeah, all from California, which wouldn't even let Trump speak, and they won 75% for Hillary.
	That comes up in another clip in a moment, but first, we go to the final clip from this ordeal, and this is just a little rah-rah, which I think is the setup for 2020 or whatever she's going to run for.
	But I want to ask you as a woman, and we're dealing obviously with issues that affect women all over the world, what do you imagine your election as the first female president of the United States might have said to the world and to the women of the world who were looking for validation, for somebody to shatter that highest and hardest ceiling?
	Oh, the highest and hardest of all ceilings.
	That's the one, John.
	It's the highest and hardest of all.
	Oh, I think it would have been a really big deal.
	Why?
	And I think that...
	Big deal.
	It's...
	And you know, I am writing a book, and it's a painful process.
	Reliving the campaign, as you might guess.
	But I think that partly here at home, there were important messages that that could have sent to our own daughters, granddaughters, grandsons, and sons.
	But I think especially internationally.
	You know, I've had the great privilege of traveling around the world, visiting in many different settings, far from the formal palaces or offices where leaders are.
	Yeah, whenever I go to Paris, I have Pierre do my hair.
	It's just normal.
	I'm a normal person.
	Into villages, down dusty roads.
	Down dusty roads in the villages.
	Meeting with people, many of whom are...
	Dodging snipers.
	Dodging snipers.
	The kind of women that Women for Women International are helping.
	And there is still so much inequity, so much unfairness, so much disrespect and discrimination toward women and girls.
	So, have we made progress?
	Yes, we have.
	But have we made enough?
	No, we haven't.
	And it's not a minor issue.
	It's not a luxury issue you get to after everything else is resolved.
	It is central to the maintenance, stability, sustainability of democracy, of human rights.
	It is critical to our national security.
	You look at places where women's rights are being stripped away Yeah, like Saudi Arabia, like Somalia, you know, like these places.
	Nigeria.
	This is where women's rights are stripped away at a very early age.
	They are the places most likely to either catalyze or protect terrorism or create...
	No, stop a second.
	She should have said these are the places most likely to give to the Clinton Foundation.
	Yeah, to give me money, exactly.
	They are the places most likely...
	Wow, you're on a roll today.
	I like this.
	I like this running commentary, Dvorak, that I'm hearing.
	...to either catalyze or protect...
	What's catalyze?
	Catalyze?
	It means it's like a catalytic activity.
	You catalyze.
	By your presence alone, things change.
	Oh, like catalyzation?
	Catalyzation?
	Yeah, it's catalyzation.
	Catalyze.
	Sounds like you're turning people into cows.
	Well, then she may be thinking catalyze.
	Let's turn these sheep into cows.
	...to either catalyze or protect terrorism or create ideologies that are...
	You say protect terrorism?
	I don't know what she said.
	Let's listen.
	Or protect terrorism.
	Protect heroism?
	No, she said protect terrorism.
	No, she's not saying terrorism.
	No, she's not.
	Listen to that.
	Or protect terrorism.
	What the hell is she...
	Listen to the whole thing in context.
	What is she saying here?
	Are the places most likely to either catalyze or protect terrorism?
	I guess she is saying protecting terrorism?
	That's what she said.
	Protect terrorism.
	That's odd.
	I think this has just slipped out.
	Protect the terrorism.
	She said.
	Wow.
	That's very strange.
	And why would they protect terrorism?
	I've never heard of anyone protecting terrorism.
	Well, listen to it one more time.
	They are the places most likely to either catalyze or protect terrorism or create ideologies that are antithetical to women's lives.
	Okay, that's what she's saying.
	No, it just makes sense what she said because what she's saying now is that The places that she's concerned about, which is Saudi Arabia, that classic, that gives her the money, they're the kind of places that catalyze or protect, in other words, catalyze, they make terrorism happen because of their crappy governments.
	In Saudi Arabia, terrorism is job number one.
	So she says they catalyze terrorism, they protect terrorism.
	She could use the words over and over like that to make it a little more profound.
	And then she has the last one, which is also adding to that.
	Lives and futures.
	It's not an accident.
	And so part of what I really believe is that women's rights is the unfinished business of the 21st century.
	There is no more important, larger issue that has to be addressed.
	No more important issue than women's rights.
	Well, since now, just to break things up a little bit.
	Okay.
	I want to go on with the clips because they just had this.
	RT is, of course, the only people on this.
	Saudi story RT1. Only seven out of 54 countries abstain from voting to appoint Saudi Arabia to a UN Council for Women's Rights in the absence of the ability to vote no.
	And that's according to the Swedish foreign ministry.
	However, most European countries which voted are still refusing to reveal which way their balance were cast.
	And Murat Gazdiev investigates.
	It's remarkable.
	Some of the foremost democracies in the Western world, champions of human rights, voted for Saudi Arabia, where women arguably face more discrimination than in any other country to join the United Nations Women's Rights Commission.
	And almost nobody wants to admit They did it.
	According to the Geneva-based human rights group UN Watch, at least 15 of the 22 countries you see here voted for Saudi Arabia.
	Now, it's all secret.
	They all cite confidentiality and bureaucratic rituals as the reasons why they won't admit to voting for Saudi Arabia.
	But the hunt is on.
	WikiLeaks.
	It's offering 10,000 euros for information about who Sweden voted for.
	The Norwegian opposition is demanding answers, calling on the government to reveal who it voted for.
	In the UK, the government is under pressure and has refused to deny voting for Saudi Arabia.
	And the one European country that was exposed as voting for Riyadh is already regretting its choice.
	Who is it?
	If we'd had the chance to discuss this at the government level, of course I would have argued that we don't approve it.
	I regret the vote.
	According to leaked emails, the Belgian government knew exactly what it was doing.
	In fact, officials were allegedly ordered to inform Saudi Arabia about Belgium's vote in an apparent attempt to curry favor.
	Oh, that's fantastic.
	So the Belgians actually had to say, yes, we voted for you.
	And then that memo got leaked.
	Whoops!
	So meanwhile, she's going on and on about this, and here's the number one Violator of women's rights in general.
	I mean, we've told stories here about, you know, America's with Mary a Saudi and the nicest guy in the world, a sexy guy dude, and they moved to Saudi Arabia, and the rest of her life she's beaten constantly.
	And she tries to get out of the country.
	I've heard about this, and other people can...
	I always want to get some photos of this, but apparently they're lying outside the American embassy trying to get back to the United States, and the American embassy won't do anything about it.
	Yeah.
	You made your bed.
	Bye.
	So what if you were an American once?
	It's just pathetic.
	And she's part of this system.
	Oh, she's evil.
	She is evil.
	Now, we're going to take a little trip here into a fabulous example of dimension A, dimension B in the same place, looking at the same information and arguing.
	And I'm sad to say this happened on The View, but that's just what it is.
	You've got to take it.
	But it is important because these are women's issues.
	Women are getting screwed over.
	Hillary lost because of men.
	So there's the two...
	I think it's Sonny Hostin, who's the Republican...
	And you're asking me.
	Yeah, I know.
	Crazy, crazy.
	It doesn't matter.
	It'll be very apparent who's who.
	I found this entire conversation just fantastic from a split universe, alternate universe, dimension A, dimension B perspective.
	Cover some reasons as to why?
	Or is she overlooking stuff?
	This was the most unimpressed I've been with Hillary Clinton.
	Every time I see her do an interview, I'm waiting for a moment where she just doesn't blame anyone but herself and acknowledges why they lost.
	You can imagine this is getting the other ladies on The View kind of riled up.
	The reason why she lost was that her foreign policy at the State Department was a disaster.
	Her intervention in Libya led to terrorist havens and the infiltration of ISIS. My head was going, what?
	You're saying this on The View?
	What?
	She lost because she picked a bad vice presidential candidate.
	She didn't do proper groundwork in states like Wisconsin, in states like Michigan, in states like Pennsylvania.
	She lied to people.
	She made the decision.
	Don't bring up the lie.
	Please don't bring up lying.
	Don't bring up lying about people.
	Let's not put lies in, because we're going to compare.
	Whoopi Goldberg defending Hillary about lying.
	She lied.
	The email server, she completely lied.
	But you can't say that, according to Whoopi.
	I'm not here to compare one.
	I can hear you on other stuff, but the lying I just can't handle.
	Go ahead, babe.
	No, no, I was going to let you finish if you had to.
	That's kind of misogynist there.
	Go ahead, babe.
	Did you hear what we said?
	Go ahead, babe.
	Yeah, she said go ahead, babe.
	Go ahead, babe.
	I'm here to compare.
	I can hear you on other stuff, but the lying I just can't handle.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead, babe.
	Well, I was just...
	No, no, I was going to let you finish.
	But I tend to agree.
	I was a little shocked when I saw her say that at first, because I think there was a moment after the election when so many of us stopped after looking at those polls and the build-up, and we were like, what did we miss?
	In some ways, I think she might still be missing some of it.
	I think if she had said these both were a part of the problem, but that they missed...
	But she did.
	No, she did, but...
	She said, do you take any responsibility for this?
	And I found that the fact that out of the gates, her answer was the Russian thing and Comey, because I think there were messaging problems.
	She wasn't on the ground.
	A lot of the people that spoke up...
	She won 3 million more votes than Donald Trump.
	Yeah, here we go.
	So her message was out there.
	People wanted to vote for her.
	And the bottom line is the FBI was investigating Trump's Russia ties since July, and they only mentioned that this March.
	They mentioned it in October.
	I voted for her.
	I'm a Hillary Clinton supporter.
	But what I'm saying is I was disappointed by the interview.
	Because to me, at this moment, what she needed to say was, we missed the mark in a lot of ways.
	There were things we didn't hear.
	And it shows me in this interview, she might still be missing.
	I don't know that she missed the mark.
	I don't know that she missed the mark.
	She also lost the election because the election isn't run by the popular vote.
	It's run by the Electoral College, and she's a seasoned politician.
	And she should know that those states that she skipped out on, those states that she didn't go to, that cost her the election.
	Oh, she knows that!
	Come on!
	Well, she knew.
	Maybe she would have gone.
	She should know that those states that she skipped out on, those states that she didn't go to, that cost her the election.
	Really?
	She sounds like she didn't because that's what cost her the election.
	There were people in the center of the country that felt the Lord.
	FBI Director Comey.
	What cost her the election, in my humble opinion, is Russia's hacking.
	And what cost her the election is, if you look at the stats, people, this was, I agree with Van Jones in a sense, this was a white lash.
	There have been studies.
	So wait a minute.
	We're blaming it on men.
	We're blaming it on white people.
	Who voted the same white people who voted for Obama.
	Ah, she's going to make that point here, actually.
	I agree with Van Jones in a sense.
	This was a white lash.
	There have been studies 20% of people voted because of racism.
	This is great.
	I need to see this study.
	So people said, hmm, racism.
	I can't vote for her because she's white, unlike the other guy.
	She's also white.
	Yeah, this is a dimension B. But it's racism.
	20% of people voted because of racism.
	And I think after eight years of a black president, there was no way that this woman was going to win.
	Who they elected twice.
	The country elected a black president twice because he was a good candidate.
	She was not a good candidate.
	You know what?
	Here's the truth about her.
	My opinion, she would have made a great president.
	She was not a great candidate.
	I'll agree with you.
	But she would have been a great president.
	He was an interesting candidate and a lousy president.
	You know what?
	Let's face it.
	Putin wanted to make America great again.
	Let's tell the truth.
	She was the most qualified candidate for president that we've ever...
	Oh, really?
	That old bromide.
	Yeah.
	She was more qualified than Dwight D. Eisenhower.
	There's one final clip I have here, which I love this a lot.
	And again, a video that needs to be seen to see the hurt of In this woman's face.
	Hurt and...
	Yeah, just hurt that she is partially being blamed for this loss.
	And she was blamed in an op-ed in the New York Times.
	And actually, she's become the Xerox of the problem.
	The New York Times editorial pretty much said, you know, the smug liberal media was a big part of the problem and specifically named it the Samantha Bee problem.
	Which must hurt her to no end.
	Yes, I would think so, because she takes this very seriously.
	For a comic, she takes it very seriously.
	She's very butthurt by this.
	So flattering.
	I didn't know that there was a Samantha Bee problem, but let me read part of it to you.
	The Democratic Party's problem in the age of Trump.
	Ha ha ha.
	I know this because I've been in the same situation where, you know, you're getting blamed for something and you know it's kind of your fault.
	You just laugh at all.
	It isn't really Jimmy Fallon, who you had criticized and others have criticized for being too soft on Trump.
	Its problem is Samantha Bee.
	Not Bee alone, of course, but the entire phenomenon that she embodies.
	The rapid colonization of new cultural territory by an ascendant social liberalism.
	First, what's your response?
	And second of all, how does it feel to be, you know, the face of the problem?
	Oh, brother.
	Good catch.
	Yeah, she really is sad about this.
	That's great.
	Liberalism.
	First, what's your response?
	And second of all, how does it feel to be, you know, the face of the problem?
	Hillary hates me.
	Can you stop for a second?
	The...
	If she, yeah, you're absolutely dead on on this analysis, and that laugh is the indicator.
	She should actually be mad about it.
	If she would take it as, that's bullcrap, I'm a comic, and then she should have gone aggressive.
	But no, she did that laugh, which indicates, oh my god, I am the problem.
	She's taking it very seriously.
	There's no way, I mean, if that was John, say it was, let's move people around on this chessboard and make Jon Stewart the guy.
	If he was the Jon Stewart problem and it was the same situation, let's say, he'd go right after the guy.
	He'd go after the New York Times and say, this is nonsense.
	He'd use his comic foil, I'm just the comedian.
	I can't even make fun of anybody.
	And it would end right there.
	This is going to affect her career.
	Yes, in fact, if you and I were watching this interview and we were running, what is it, TBS that she's on?
	Yeah, I think it is TBS. Something like that.
	One of them.
	We would have fired her after this interview, and you'll hear why.
	You know, the face of the problem...
	Oh my God, my name was in an article.
	It's me.
	It's not racism.
	It's just me.
	No, you know what?
	I'll wait for all that evidence to roll in and then I'll make up my mind after that.
	Oh, because, you know, it's clearly unproven.
	This is just the New York Times.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	That's my Bible.
	A little brain freeze.
	So it was because there was no backup.
	You know, it's one person's opinion.
	Yes, that's what op-eds are, one person's opinion.
	Only this one is in the New York Times, darling.
	One wonderful chap who I'd love to have on that show.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Does he have a larger, and you've addressed this on your show, so remove yourself from it.
	Does he have a point about smug liberals?
	I'm not talking about you, but is there a smug liberal problem?
	Well, that is something that I can't really...
	I mean, I just can't take responsibility for the way the election turned out.
	I just absolutely don't.
	I can't.
	You told her not to go to Wisconsin.
	There is.
	Like, I do the show for me and for people like me, and I don't really care how the rest of the world sees it, quite frankly.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, we're going to have to fire you because you care about the advertisers and the ratings.
	If you say you're just doing the show for you, why don't you go do a podcast?
	Like, I do the show for me and for people like me, and I don't really care how the rest of the world sees it, quite frankly.
	This is pretty much the definition of sanctimoniously smug, right there.
	Smug.
	Holy smug.
	So being said, were you smug?
	No, I'm not smug.
	She's self-defined smug.
	Yeah, it's a perfect, excellent job.
	I don't really think what you think.
	What's that?
	That's what she said.
	I don't care what you think.
	I don't care what you think.
	I do the show for myself.
	For people like me.
	It's a very small group.
	You know, I don't think there is.
	Like, I do the show for me and for people like me.
	And I don't really care how the rest of the world sees it, quite frankly.
	That's great.
	We make a show for ourselves.
	We put it out in the world.
	We birth it.
	Now, I've heard this exact sentence so many times in my career.
	This is what someone says when they're about to get canceled.
	We birth it.
	We put it out there for the universe to see.
	What you're saying is you think you have an outstanding product that no one wants to watch.
	We birth it.
	Have you not heard this?
	This is something similar?
	I haven't heard it for a while.
	We're doing the best we can.
	We're putting it out there into the universe.
	Let everyone see how awesome we are.
	That's great.
	We make a show for ourselves.
	We put it out in the world.
	We birth it.
	And then the world receives it however they want to receive it.
	Welcome back to Friday.
	She goes into vocal fry.
	Yeah.
	She reminded me of...
	Oh, and this one time at band camp, I stuck a flute in my pussy.
	Reminds me a little bit of her.
	The band camp girl.
	A little bit.
	Now, something else happened in the mainstream, which Tina the Keeper alluded to me to.
	She is my canary in the coal mine when it comes to what the memes are on social media.
	Yeah, she actually gets out of the house.
	Every day.
	As a job.
	Yes.
	And of course, it must be hard for her at her job.
	Well, it must be hard for her when she comes home and the dinner's not done and ready.
	The dinner is always done and ready.
	I love making dinner.
	My wifely duties are on point.
	Now, when she's at work and people say, how's your boyfriend?
	What did she do again?
	He's a podcaster?
	A podcaster.
	So Stephen Colbert made a joke.
	Now this is total dimension A, B. This is total political correctness.
	Fantastic controversy.
	In this report, the word cock is beeped out, but at least you know what that is.
	It was the late night joke that left audiences shocked.
	You talk like a sign language gorilla who got hit in the head.
	In fact, the only thing your mouth is good for is being Vladimir Putin's cock holster.
	I've not heard this phrase, a cock holster.
	No, I've never heard it either.
	Yeah, so the only thing your mouth is good for is as Vladimir Putin's cock holster.
	Yeah.
	It's pretty crude.
	Well, it's very crude, but if you listen to the entire rant, it's a screed.
	It goes on for a long time.
	If you listen to the thing from the beginning, and I did not clip it, but if you listen to the whole thing when it first starts, because it starts off with him defending John Dickerson, who can defend himself, by the way.
	So John Dickerson did this interview with Trump, and Trump was slamming him and CBS, and they're very...
	In a way that fits in context, it's just Trump being a dick.
	I actually have a clip from that later.
	And so Colbert decides to go after Trump with just one insult after another, and in context of the series of insults, Which is just never ending.
	That's the last of them.
	That's the punchline that got to be finally ended.
	But I thought in context it wasn't as crude as the whole thing.
	I agree with you.
	And that is not...
	The controversy is something else.
	That's the surprising part.
	I agree with you on that too because the controversy is ludicrous in my opinion.
	It was the late night joke that left audiences shocked.
	You talk like a sign language gorilla who got hit in the head.
	In fact, the only thing your mouth is good for is being Vladimir Putin's holster.
	Stephen Colbert used a crude phrase while attacking President Trump during a 12-minute monologue Monday night.
	The comments received instant backlash online.
	The hashtag FireColbert trending worldwide.
	While on cable news, conservatives pounced.
	I thought that was obscene.
	I thought it was rude.
	I thought it was inappropriate.
	And it shows how out of touch.
	Because I've never said the word cock.
	That part of the media is with the rest of America.
	And it wasn't just Trump supporters blasting the late night host.
	Some called the comments anti-gay.
	Colbert explicitly mocks gay intimacy with the cover of Mocking Trump.
	This is hate speech.
	I love blowjobs now being categorized as gay intimacy.
	It's like the way this – I thought when it happened that it was just crude and the guy was out of control, but he was still appealing to his audience, which he's making hay with his anti-Trump stuff.
	I mean by making hay, the advertisers are flocking in.
	Nobody's backed off.
	Now they should go after the advertisers if they wanted to get some effect here.
	This is the moment.
	Or you can go after the advertisers, which again is one of the things that we discuss on this show a lot because we have no advertisers for the same, for the reasons that, you know, the opposite, the reasons that this is what can happen.
	I think they're going to hurt his show.
	Oh, absolutely.
	You can go too far with all of this stuff.
	Yeah.
	But the main thing...
	And you think a good Catholic boy like Colbert...
	You'd think he'd have some sort of self-censorship mechanism because he needs that.
	I mean, any comic, especially on nighttime, you know, night TV that...
	I mean, you can get a little dirtier than daytime stuff, but you have to have some self-censorship, and that was just...
	It was a jaw-dropper that he didn't have the censorship, self-censorship, necessary to keep him from using that joke.
	He already made his point.
	I've seen this more often after 10 p.m.
	That's the watershed moment, certainly on cable, but at late night.
	I've heard shit a lot.
	I hear that on CNN all the time now.
	All the time.
	I hear shit.
	They're saying it too much.
	They are.
	It's like someone sent out a memo.
	It's okay to say shit now.
	And I was like, oh, shit.
	They all say it.
	It's like a bunch of little kids.
	That's great.
	Shit, shit, shit.
	Mommy, can I cuss?
	Go ahead, son.
	Cuss all you want.
	And then the kid starts cussing.
	Of course, why wouldn't he?
	And so this is what's happening.
	And we're seeing this.
	And I think these people need to get a clue here.
	They're mature adults.
	Yeah.
	And I'd say Colbert in particular, he's got this thing locked up, he's killing it.
	Yeah, because he's number one in the ratings, right?
	He's top of the late night now.
	Yes, he's killing it.
	And that must really irk the Jimmys.
	Well, the Jimmys both have problems.
	One, Jimmy Kimmel, has to actually retire, not retire, but he has to leave the show because he just had a child who has heart conditions.
	Wait, but he's going to stop doing the show?
	No, he's not doing the shows we speak.
	Oh, okay.
	He'll be back.
	All right.
	But he did a heartfelt thing, and he got a lot of attention for it, but then he had to go because of his child is having issues.
	Yeah, his kid almost died, I heard, something like that.
	Yes, almost.
	And Fallon is now getting a lot of negative publicity.
	We're hearing, there's just a report recently that he's a high-functioning alcoholic.
	That makes total sense.
	I didn't know this about him.
	Yes, apparently.
	I don't know this for a fact, but it's been really reported a lot that he's a high-functioning alcoholic and he doesn't care.
	He still goes out and parties and gets into fights.
	In fact, one guy in one of the gossip sheets claims that it's astonishing how good he is at fighting.
	You want to know where he learned it.
	And so he's got, you know, the network can't like this, but If he's drunk on that show, more power to him.
	I have never seen anybody do so well if he's drinking at all.
	I mean, this guy, it's not that easy to go and perform like that.
	Although some people, the comics in particular, many of them, and Mimi can attest to this, she used to produce comedy shows.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Only perform well when they're drunk.
	Or stoned.
	Or high on coke.
	Yeah.
	Not weed, only coke?
	Generally speaking.
	Dave Chappelle said that he usually smokes weed before...
	Well, yeah, but Chappelle, his style of comic is very laid back.
	Most comics...
	Chappelle on Coke would be funny.
	I don't think he could handle it.
	No, no.
	These guys all have a drug of choice, and so it's one of the group, but very rarely do they get to the point in their career where they're hosting a late night show.
	Well, so that explains Fallon's, you know, girly, giggle-ish laugh.
	He's always laughing along with everybody.
	He has a good time on that show.
	He does.
	Hey, I'm hammered.
	Let's go do a show.
	What a life.
	So we have this late night issue and now we have a Colbert.
	The late night scene is not what it used to be.
	No, no.
	You mentioned that the CBS interview, I have a little clip here.
	This is in the Oval Office.
	And is that Dickerson who just consistently is hounding Trump on Russia and the spying?
	I wouldn't call Dickerson's style hounding, but maybe.
	Well, you learn that skill.
	Who do you call to say what's it like?
	Sorry?
	Yeah, that's Dickerson.
	He's got a funny twang.
	I can't figure out what that accent is.
	You learn that skill.
	Who do you call to say what's it like?
	Because nobody you can call.
	Did President Obama give you any advice that was helpful?
	Well, he's very nice to me, but after that we've had some difficulties, so it doesn't matter.
	You know, words are less important to me than deeds, and you saw what happened with surveillance, and everybody saw what happened with surveillance.
	Difficulties how?
	I thought that.
	Well, you saw what happened with surveillance, and I think that was inappropriate.
	What does that mean, sir?
	You can figure that out yourself.
	Well, the reason I asked is you said you called him sick and bad.
	Look, you can figure it out yourself.
	He was very nice to me with words, and when I was with him, but after that, there has been no relationship.
	But you stand by that claim about him?
	I don't stand by anything.
	I just, you can take it.
	Hello, President Trump.
	Don't say the words, I don't stand by anything.
	This...
	These are the things that you do wrong.
	This is what comes back to bite you in the ass, you oaf.
	No relationship.
	But you stand by that claim.
	I don't stand by anything.
	You can take it the way you want.
	That's so stupid.
	That is really dumb.
	Whatever.
	Well, he's just...
	He's like winging it.
	I mean, this is a guy, talking about the comics a minute ago, this is a guy who's so sober, it's ludicrous.
	Yeah.
	And he is, he's just, he's just a motor mouth, that's all I can say.
	And I understand where he's coming from, but, you know, he just needs to go a little easy.
	Slow down!
	Yeah.
	You know what the problem is?
	He needs a floor guy, he needs a floor guy that's on the other side of the camera.
	Making the motion to slow down, stretch slow, slow, slow.
	I learned this from Scott Shannon.
	Scott Shannon, WHTZ 100.
	During the morning show, we had like five or six voices.
	He said, let the room breathe.
	Just be quiet for a moment.
	It's okay.
	I still do that.
	I love silence.
	And he's pile jumping.
	It's almost like he's afraid to have any dead air.
	Seriously, he's like, I've got to talk.
	He's like a high school broadcaster.
	Yes, he's like a high school broadcaster.
	Yeah, or just a podcaster, whichever comes first.
	No relationship.
	But you stand by that claim of happening?
	I don't stand by anything.
	I just, you can take it the way you want.
	I think our side's been proven very strongly, and everybody's talking about it.
	And frankly, it should be discussed.
	I think that is a very big...
	You know, I think you'd nail it, because he doesn't love...
	Frankly, it shouldn't be...
	He says, I believe very strongly in it.
	Frankly, it should be...
	Just word after word after word.
	Shut up.
	Shut up for 10 seconds.
	Just filling space.
	It's like there's a little dead air.
	Let me put a word in there.
	I'll put any word in that comes to mind.
	Yeah.
	So he's completely out of control, which I think makes him a good public speaker.
	Yeah.
	But not so good when the press...
	Microanalyzes everything.
	That's what Obama was great at.
	He would never say anything out of place.
	No, and he would stop.
	And he had weasel words, and he'd go...
	And he'd stammer.
	If...
	If Just throwing words together so it makes you sound smart.
	I don't know what Trump's brain is like, but it's not good for these situations.
	He did another, every interview he's done like this, again, he's slouched over so he doesn't look fat.
	And he's yakking away and he can't stop talking.
	Strongly, and everybody's talking about it.
	And frankly, it should be discussed.
	I think that is a very big surveillance problem.
	Of our citizens.
	I think it's a very big topic, and it's a topic that should be number one.
	He also makes it, you know, somebody sat down and transcribed what he said.
	It makes no sense when you hear that.
	His sentences are all screwed up.
	It's a very big surveillance.
	Yeah, he drops words all the time.
	Yeah, he's worse than Ron Paul.
	Remember Ron Paul?
	Yeah, would drop words too.
	He would always start a sentence and never end the sentence.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	...of our citizens.
	I think that's a very big topic, and it's a topic that should be number one, and we should find out.
	Well, wait a minute.
	What happened to number one about women?
	What the hell is going on?
	I just wanted to find out, though, you're the president of the United States.
	You said he was sick and bad because he attacked you.
	You can take it any way you want.
	But I'm asking you, because you don't want it to be fake news.
	I want to hear it from President Trump.
	He said, you don't want it to be fake news.
	Why would you throw that in, douche?
	You said he was sick and bad because he...
	Here's another thing.
	A lot of these guys who do coaching, and I would say Tony Robbins is probably the Greatest coach in the United States, even though he's someone you may not want to pay attention to.
	But if you read any of his material, one of the things he likes to say, and this applies to sports too, when you see these two teams playing, like the Warriors will be playing again tonight, one team is trying to get the other team to go at their pace.
	It's always a rule of sports.
	Ah, if they can speed up the game, then those other guys, they don't know what, they'll fall apart because they can't speed up the game.
	They want to slow down the game.
	So, Ramos makes this point, which I always felt was a...
	It's a salesman's trick and Trump does it and Trump sets the pace and he gets people He's yakking away, and he gets people to step up their pace, and they start to screw up.
	That's what Dickerson just did.
	Yes.
	You know the old trick where you want to get somebody, or the other trick, which Robbins advocates, if the guy's slow and talking real slow like this, you want to talk real, okay, I'll talk like this, because then now you're starting to get in line with him to be able to sell him something.
	That's how you apply MLP. Yes, exactly.
	Neuro-linguistic programming.
	And so Trump is completely out of control, and so Dickerson is, instead of controlling the pace because he can't, Trump is.
	Well, they're also standing in the Oval Office, and he knows he's about to get kicked out.
	I mean, especially when you throw, well, you don't want to be fake news.
	And I want to remind everybody, fake news did not come from President Trump.
	It came from the media themselves, and I'm going to say it was CNN. I think it was CNN. Who said Hillary lost, you know, fake news, fake news.
	Neither that was the Washington Post.
	Is there a difference?
	It's the same thing.
	You're the President of the United States.
	You said he was sick and bad because he attacked you.
	You can take it any way you want.
	But I'm asking you, because you don't want it to be fake news.
	I want to hear it from President Trump.
	You don't have to ask me.
	You don't have to ask me.
	Why not?
	Because I have my own opinions.
	You can have your own opinions.
	But I want to know your opinions.
	You're the President of the United States.
	That's enough.
	Thank you.
	Get out.
	Thank you very much.
	Way too fast.
	He stepped it way up.
	I think Trump saw that or he understood the guy was up.
	Now he's yakking away at Trump's speed.
	And that was it.
	He won.
	You can go.
	Trump won.
	He won the debate.
	And he ended it.
	You're the President of the United States.
	That's enough.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	Well, he was done with that conversation.
	Yes, he was, Gail.
	He was done with that conversation.
	Yeah.
	Amazing.
	I think Diggerson got beat.
	I turned on CNN last night, and Bettina and I were sitting there, and I was like, they're just making things up.
	They're just making stuff up.
	Well, you know, perhaps when Trump went there, and he said, oh, but we had a meeting behind the Starbucks, and some guy got some money, and they're just making it up like they're spy novelists.
	It's really, really, really unbelievable what's going on in Dimension B. But anyway, I think with that, I can safely say I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. Where the C stands for Coach Extraordinaire Dvorak.
	In the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water.
	And all the dames and knights out there.
	And in the morning to everybody in the No Agenda War Room.
	You can find that at noagendastream.com.
	You can listen and participate at the same time.
	In the morning as well to comic strip blogger who brought us the artwork for episode 9 or 2-5.
	Barry's Choice, the title of that one.
	And this was a very nice piece.
	It was the hammer and sickle, only the hammer is a microphone.
	Yeah, we went and did a little research to see if that has been ever done before.
	No.
	And it's important to say...
	No evidence of it.
	Yeah, that if you take someone else's work and you change it into parody or any other...
	You can look up what fair use is.
	We're okay with it.
	But just taking a funny bit and posting no agenda on it is not good enough.
	This was an original idea that was extremely impressive.
	I mean, I was taken aback.
	And there was a piece of art that more related to the show, which is typically what we like to use.
	But this thing was so interesting because it's just...
	And we did a tribute to our comic strip bloggers, a Polish guy.
	Well, he's a Polish guy living in Germany who I think his main job is making iPhone apps.
	And he's missed his calling.
	Well, yes, he could be a starving Polish poster maker.
	For podcasts.
	A Polish podcast poster maker.
	Yeah, that's not going to work.
	But that's the kindest crazy thinking.
	I mean, that was just dynamite.
	So we really appreciated that piece.
	So he doesn't have to do anymore.
	And noagentartgenerator.com is where you can upload your art.
	We choose something right after we're done in our post-production meeting.
	And we appreciate the work that all of our artists do.
	And...
	I guess we have one name for this segment today.
	Yeah, one.
	We have one associate executive producer who came in, and she will be named Vanessa.
	Vanessa Hampshire in Verwood, UK. She's not even in America.
	She's in the UK. Because we're covering the UK quite...
	We got a lot of UK coverage today, too.
	We do.
	We do.
	She came in with $250 and she'll be bumped up to executive producer for being the highest associate with no execs above her.
	You got lucky.
	Nobody else cared about today's show.
	You spun the wheel of fortune and you got lucky.
	Vanessa Hampshire.
	She's finally got around to donating.
	She loves the show.
	It's my birthday this weekend.
	See if she's on the list.
	She is on the list.
	Yep, she's on the list.
	Send you a present as logical as the rest of the world.
	I thought.
	As logical as the rest of the world, I thought, just for your...
	No, no.
	What she's saying is, it's my birthday, but I'd send you a present just as logical as the rest of the world is.
	Okay.
	Pronounce Hampshire, not hams here.
	Hampshire.
	Yeah, okay.
	Yes, the nature of the show is that you have a birthday, you send a donation.
	I think it's a good idea.
	We endorse this idea.
	And we endorse this idea.
	As crazy as it sounds on the surface.
	We'll give her some karma and that's it.
	Yeah, where's the karma?
	You've got karma.
	Well, thank you very much.
	I will mention to people out there, the problem when we have something like this is that now you have to listen to us grouse about the lack of support.
	I got nothing to grouse about.
	It is what it is.
	I can't help it.
	I can.
	All right.
	I'm doing the work.
	Anyway.
	I can grouse about it.
	I can't do anything about it.
	Let me finish up here.
	I want to thank our one now executive producer.
	Of course, we'll be thanking more people later on, $50 or above.
	And this is a real credit.
	So, Vanessa, take that and put it on your LinkedIn.
	Apparently, it helps with jobs.
	And remember, our show, the next one, coming up on Sunday.
	Please support us at Dvorak.org slash N-A. Whether you're in a Cludio or whether you're in just a plain old office, be out there propagating the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water. Water. Time to turn false.
	Shut up.
	Play.
	Shut up.
	Wasn't there a song by Phil Collins, Cludio?
	Clu, clu, clu.
	Cludeo!
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that was the title of it.
	Yeah, I remember that song.
	Anyway, well, at least Vanessa came in.
	That's at least a positive thing.
	Yes.
	I found a couple of short clips here and there that I thought were interesting, including this one, which...
	Play this clip and then we'll discuss it for a second.
	This is Tillerson on rights.
	President Trump's America First policy means that human rights will not determine U.S. relations with foreign governments.
	Secretary of State Rex Tillerson took that message to his employees today.
	He said that in some cases, quote, if you condition national security efforts on someone adopting our values, it really does create obstacles.
	Well, there's nothing new there.
	He's just stating the obvious.
	Well, we try to...
	We've had trouble.
	State departments have had trouble.
	I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing.
	Otherwise, we'll end up supporting Hitler.
	I mean, that's what the implication is.
	Well, Hitler's got his own way of doing things.
	Why should we give a crap?
	So what if he's cooking Jews over there?
	What difference does it make?
	Show title, John.
	Cooking Jews over there.
	Show title.
	Yeah, I don't think so.
	Now, but this is what this is about.
	Because that really is not our policy, generally speaking.
	If the people are horrible, horrendous.
	I mean, now everyone's bitching about the fact that Trump would have Duarte from the Philippines, a murderer for all practical purposes, visiting the White House.
	Everyone bitches about it.
	This is done for one reason and one reason only.
	Africa.
	The Chinese have moved into Africa and pretty much taken over the place using this philosophy.
	Yes.
	We're Chinese.
	We got going what we're doing.
	These people are doing whatever they're doing.
	They got nothing to do with us.
	We just want to do business with them.
	And that's what Tillerson's adopted.
	It's going to backfire, though, because it's a bad image.
	So you're saying that we are going to be like the Chinese?
	Yes.
	Well, we better get a move on.
	Not in China, but in Africa.
	Yeah, the Chinese in Africa.
	Get a move on, then.
	I'm sure we're getting a move on.
	The stories will start to change over the next few years.
	But this is not going to sit well with the image-conscious liberal elites.
	There were a couple other interesting interviews and some follow-up.
	I want to hit North Korea for a moment.
	So again, the headline was, I would be honored to meet with Kim Jong-yum-yum.
	That was the headline, which of course by itself sounds like, what?
	What?
	You'd be honored to meet the crazy, crazy boy, the crazy kid?
	So again, we'll play this in context.
	You have put, throughout your career, a great emphasis on forging personal relationships, and that's true in the White House also, and your ability to make deals in part based on this personal relationship.
	So what I want to ask you is, have you thought about this?
	Would you be willing to meet with Kim Jong-un?
	We have a potentially very...
	Bad situation that...
	Interesting what I noticed here in this particular interview.
	He's much more careful with his words.
	You can really hear the brain crunching about what he wants to say next.
	And I think, to your point, he's mirroring her tempo exactly.
	He is not speeding it up.
	Now he's going the other direction.
	Bad situation that we will meet in the toughest of all manners if we have to do that.
	If it would be appropriate for me to meet with him, I would absolutely, I would be honored to do it.
	If it's under the, again, under the right circumstances.
	But I would do that.
	Hey, look, I'm meeting with Abbas on Wednesday.
	The leader of Palestine.
	You think that's slightly smaller, right?
	I'm meeting with Abbas on Wednesday, and people are saying, that's a very good thing to do, because I'd like to see peace in the Middle East, and I'd like to see the Palestinians and the Israelis come together, and Israel come together and have peace.
	Now, so under the right circumstances, I would be.
	Do you think these are the right circumstances now?
	Well, I think he is...
	Look, we have tremendous...
	We cannot allow him to say what he's saying.
	He's making very provocative statements.
	We cannot allow that.
	We cannot let a situation happen where Under any circumstances where he can launch missiles into the United States.
	Plus, we happen to have great allies in that area, and I feel very strongly toward those allies.
	So, yes, under the right circumstances, I would absolutely meet with him.
	No problem.
	Most political people would never say that, but I'm telling you, under the right circumstances, I would meet with him.
	So I think he messed up by saying I would be honored.
	But that is a great negotiating tactic.
	I really look forward to meeting the guy I want to kick in the teeth.
	I hope they meet.
	Yeah, well, we know that that's what Kim Jong-yum-yum wants.
	We know that's what he wants.
	Kim Jong-yum-yum!
	Kim Jong-yum-yum!
	He just wants to be a country with tourism.
	That's what he wants.
	Now, let's...
	Yeah, of course.
	And it's apparently a very beautiful place to visit.
	And when they have those special events, who wouldn't want to go to one of those?
	What's those guys marching around, jerking their heads around and everything, flying?
	Holy mackerel, how can you do that?
	With those papier-mâché missiles?
	It's great.
	Well, I think this also plays into the other thing.
	There's kind of a parallel thing going on news-wise with this.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	I just wanted to stay on for this for one second.
	Two short clips still.
	About those allies in the region.
	Ally number one would be Japan.
	According to Russia Today, the U.S. has sent a high-altitude surveillance RQ4 Global Hawk drone to Japan.
	It's expected to monitor moves made by the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
	The drone arrived at Yokota Air Base in Tokyo late on Monday after flying from Anderson Air Force Base in Guam.
	The U.S. military said it will remain in Tokyo until October to avoid inclement weather in Guam, including typhoons.
	But experts believe staying in Tokyo will enable it to arrive at the Korean Peninsula faster.
	The drone is capable of collecting aerial data from an altitude of about 15 kilometers or higher.
	According to the U.S. military, four other Global Hawk drones are also scheduled to arrive at Yokota soon.
	15 kilometers.
	So what is that?
	That's 15 kilometers is...
	It's about...
	Yeah, I guess 45 miles.
	No, it's less than that.
	15 kilometers?
	Yeah.
	About 11 miles.
	No.
	No, I think it's more like 8.
	It's not 11.
	Well, somebody can do the calculation and talk about, put it into the chat room.
	Yeah.
	Well, that just brings you the clip.
	Nine miles.
	Nine miles.
	Well, no, I have the final clip and then I'm done.
	Well, you just write up a Japanese clip.
	But I'm going to, okay.
	I'm doing allies in the region.
	Okay.
	You want to do...
	I mean, it'll just...
	30 seconds.
	Just play it.
	Okay.
	So, the other ally is, of course, South Korea.
	Let's check in with the South Koreans and see how they feel about our U.S. military might.
	Live from Beijing, I'm Panjong.
	We start in South Korea.
	An anti-fad rally was held in Seoul on Saturday ahead of the presidential election in the country.
	People were urging the next president to reconsider the deployment of the U.S. anti-missile system.
	The organiser said about 50,000 people attended the rally, including over 100 residents from Xinjiang County, where the system will be installed.
	The organiser is planning to hold another demonstration closer to the presidential election on May 9th in Xinjiang County.
	Currently, Mr.
	Moon Jae-in of the Democratic Party is holding the lead in a majority of the polls.
	The polls.
	Oh, there you go.
	They don't want it.
	50,000 people demonstrating.
	Get your damn missile thing out of here.
	No, of course they don't want it.
	They don't want to pay for it, so it's going to screw the American taxpayer.
	And besides that, nobody knows if it even works, and I doubt if it does.
	And who is the buyer?
	I still don't know who the buyer is.
	The buyer is apparently the American taxpayer at this point.
	Yeah.
	Woo!
	Well, this is all, this is what you kind of got close to touching on the point, which is this THAAD thing.
	But let's play this clip from RT, who's the only ones that seem to really want to isolate this as an issue.
	This is the re-militarized Japan clip.
	Japan's pacifist constitution has turned 70.
	In fact, it turns 70 today.
	But days before the big occasion, the prime minister said the country's main law needs a change.
	In this milestone year, we will take a historic step towards the large goal of constitutional reform.
	Proposed revisions would change the charter that renounces the use of force in international conflicts and limits Japan's troops to self-defense.
	The government's made several steps towards militarization.
	Five years ago, Abe's party advocated a revised constitution, while in 2014, the Prime Minister wanted to allow the military to use force and cooperation with other countries.
	Two years ago, Japan's parliament passed changes allowing troops to fight abroad, and that same year, Shinzo Abe said amending the pacifist constitution was one of the Liberal Democratic Party's most sought-after goals.
	And just last week, the Prime Minister named one of the main reasons for Japan's current military build-up.
	North Korea is a grave threat to our country.
	We'd like to be watertight to ensure safety for our citizens.
	Our country will be resolute in its response.
	HR specialist Tim Beale believes restoring the Japanese military is about confronting more than just North Korea.
	The United States sees Japan as its major ally fighting force against China and for certain incident against Russia.
	So the Americans are very keen to promote Japanese militarization.
	So this is a continuing effort by Abe, which is reaching a pretty tense point at the moment.
	Are we nuts?
	Yeah.
	Now, the Trump thing about meeting with Yum Yum is kind of in contradiction to this movement that we're also playing, which is, again, the Kegel, the Kegans.
	The Kegel.
	No, they're just called the Kegels.
	The Kegels.
	The Kegel exercises.
	And so...
	Speaking of which, are you a granddaddy again yet?
	When is that kid coming?
	I don't know.
	Pretty soon.
	The point is that this is nuts.
	And this is, again, the war...
	Machine that's within the system.
	Now, I mentioned this in the newsletter that you don't even see any anti-war stuff anymore in the media.
	It used to always be, oh, you know, we can't do too much war.
	What Eisenhower said kind of thing.
	Rule number one, do not piss off your advertisers.
	They're all part of the complex.
	Well, that and the drug companies, which is part of that, too.
	Yeah, of course.
	It's all the same, of course.
	This is crazy to me, and we're helping them.
	Yeah, yeah, why should they just be defensive?
	We want them to be offensive, too, just attack people like we do.
	I love that we're also on the side of, well, of course, the new Japanese are not the same, but if you look at the Sino War, was that it?
	Japanese against the Sino War, Japanese against the Chinese.
	The Japanese were pretty bad, man.
	No, they're terrible.
	They were raping and pillaging and cutting women's breasts off.
	And they would never apologize.
	They were terrible.
	Still happens.
	That was the reason for making them put together a pacifist constitution.
	Not a good idea.
	No, it's not.
	No.
	If you want to defend yourself.
	And if you want to stay in this region, and let's talk about one more crazy thing.
	This is my clip.
	This is the Korean teens want to vote.
	Now, the South Korean presidential election comes seven months early, following the impeachment of former President Park Geun-hye on corruption charges.
	A side effect of that political scandal is youth engagement.
	Young people had joined protests, calling for the country's president to step down.
	Now, those young people are calling for voting rights.
	NHK World's Kim Chan-ju reports.
	Jong-un, it's freedom!
	Jong-un, it's freedom!
	Many high school students throughout South Korea are politically energized these days, and they want more of a say.
	We want to elect the country's leader ourselves in order to create a better society for us all.
	The corruption scandal involving the president and her longtime friend Choi Soon-sil has kept Buseogu busy with a youth group that's engaged in social issues.
	So they want the teenagers to vote.
	Yeah, we'll get them however we can.
	We got the votes as long as we can get all the teenagers to participate.
	Yeah.
	Well, I don't know if it's unbelievable, but it's totally.
	It's unbelievable to me.
	Totally believable.
	Hey, have we heard about the Queen's little Intermenso?
	It's a show day.
	Last night, before I went to bed, I heard there was some special meeting called the Buckingham Palace, and people are thinking.
	Yeah, what happened?
	It's supposed to have been revealed at midnight last night.
	What happened?
	I was looking.
	I couldn't find anything.
	I couldn't find anything.
	Everyone thought the Queen died.
	That's what I thought.
	And then maybe Prince Philip?
	Yeah, Philip may have died.
	But, you know, I was tuning into the BBC. They're under strict...
	Even LBC, I listen to everything.
	They were just doing filler because you're not allowed to talk about it until they sanction it according to the broadcast rules in the UK. Let's see if there's anything in the current Google News.
	Google News is never really that up-to-date.
	Why don't you check that Google News?
	Yeah, I was wondering.
	According to the war room, the prince, who is now 96, has retired.
	That's it?
	Yeah.
	He retired from what?
	From his important commonwealth duties.
	What duties did he have?
	That weren't in the toilet.
	Calling people cannon fodder, useless eaters, you know, that kind of stuff.
	That's what he's known best for.
	Loving Monsanto and GMOs.
	So I was watching CNBC and there's something that happened on the show, just a real short, a short, the clip has come back anytime.
	Something happened on the show which I always thought, I've always wanted to do this.
	This is just a little piece that this woman was coming out of the...
	This is a closing bell.
	She's coming out of the interview, and then she makes a comment, and the guy does what I've always wanted to do.
	We'll talk about the Fed.
	We'll talk about all those other things, but come back any time.
	Or, like, tomorrow?
	Tomorrow, the next day, and the one after.
	Yeah, wiseass.
	Yeah.
	That actually gets you uninvited, that kind of stuff.
	Yeah, you would never get invited back.
	You really don't want to do that.
	Yeah, come on, anytime.
	Okay, tomorrow I'll be back.
	That is funny.
	Should we just take a little detour here and go into a little science stuff for a moment?
	Science!
	Yes, that would be...
	Science!
	There was...
	There was an interview with, what's his face, Neil deGrasse Tyson.
	Oh, Elon!
	That guy.
	And we just need to listen to this.
	Now, he's an astrophysicist, so he's more of a scientist than Bill Nye, the way I see it.
	But he's also, here's a definition or an example of a guy who's extremely smug.
	Very, very smug.
	And I'm sure he's a little irked about Bill Nye's success.
	He's a certain type of smug.
	He's not the smug Samantha Bee style.
	He's a smug kind of...
	This is the kind of smugness, and people out there who listen to talk radio will remember the right-wingers that used to be local.
	They used to be all over the country.
	You'd have a right-wing channel.
	This is usually during the Clinton administration.
	And there would be these smug right-wingers that had these shows.
	And all of them got knocked out of the park.
	Hold on, stop for a second.
	So what you're saying is it is not a left or right or A or B thing.
	It's whoever is on the losing side becomes smug?
	It's a certain kind of weird smug.
	And it's, yes, I think so.
	And nowadays it's...
	It's childish is what it is.
	That's what high school, the children do.
	But it's kind of this way.
	Oh, yes.
	Oh, how stupid can they be?
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	Well, I think what Neil deGrasse Tyson is doing here is trying to show that he really understands science and why it needs to be protected because, of course, science is under attack.
	He's not an engineer.
	That's right.
	Now, he doesn't mention that, but I'm just saying because this interview, which was quite lengthy, Now, was it PBS? No, it was NPR. I'm sorry, not PBS. NPR. And, well, let's just kick it off.
	He has quite an obsession with Lincoln.
	Let me play this interview for you and get your perspective on the other side.
	What if you're wrong?
	Look, let me say to you, CO2 contributes to greenhouse gas.
	It has a greenhouse gas effect and global warming, as methane does, and other types of gases.
	The issue is how much we contribute to it from a human activity perspective.
	Neil deGrasse Tyson?
	Oh, yeah.
	Was that a question?
	Yes.
	You want me to react?
	I do.
	So, Abraham Lincoln in 1863, when clearly he had other priorities in front of him, in that year he signed into law the creation of the National Academy of Sciences.
	Ah, you see.
	See, this is very important.
	We have to take it to Abraham Lincoln, who, by the way, is synonymous for Obama.
	We know this, right?
	No.
	Yeah, Obama was always compared to Lincoln.
	Well, it doesn't matter.
	Okay, here's why.
	So if you now work for the government and going to deny what the National Academy of Sciences tells you, then go back to Abraham Lincoln and say, Abe, you didn't know what the hell you were talking about, and I do.
	Go tell him that.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, well, why would he even suggest that as a scientist?
	We know we can't do that.
	Why is he doing this?
	If you didn't know what the hell you were talking about, and I do, go tell him that.
	Go ahead.
	And ask yourself, why are you in any position of power in this country if the health, wealth, and security of this country is a priority?
	Because without any understanding of how science works, you are jeopardizing our health, our wealth, and our security.
	There's so much in this.
	Like, you don't know what you're talking about.
	You don't respect something.
	No, the whole point is people are disagreeing on things that cannot even be reproduced.
	Oh, wait.
	Stop.
	Stop.
	I'm going to guess what the woman said next.
	She said, well, I understand your position.
	I think it's well taken and you're well spoken about it.
	But aren't all these climate concepts based on a computer model, which are notoriously flawed because you can't really get all the data in a computer model?
	And they really want to discuss it in a little more detail since the whole thing is a computer model.
	And if you take a computer scientist, which you're not, and Bill Nye is definitely not, But you talk to computer scientists about computer models and their reliability, they will tell you they're not reliable in the least.
	You are Nostradamus, just like him.
	You predicted it incorrectly.
	Oh, good work.
	No.
	No, he goes on to talk about how we're all connected and, again, obsession with Lincoln, which was kind of...
	icky in this particular case.
	Do you want one?
	Toss one in.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	There are more molecules of water in a glass of water than there are a cup of water than there are cups of water in all the world's oceans.
	What?
	And your point is?
	Well, she's going to ask it because that was very complicated what he said.
	There are more cups of glass of water in the oceans of the water, the molecules.
	A cup of water.
	Then there are cups of water.
	In all the world's oceans.
	Okay, say that again.
	Say it again.
	Okay.
	There are more molecules of water in a cup of water than there are cups of water in all the world's oceans.
	What this means is there's enough molecules in one cup to scatter to all other cups that you could dig out of the ocean.
	Which means if you drink that cup and those molecules come back out of your body through sweat, through pee, through whatever, Then your liquid effluences are now shared with the entire Earth.
	And what that means is, every glass of water you do drink contains molecules of water that pass through the kidneys of Abe Lincoln, of Genghis Khan, of Joan of Arc, of Jesus.
	I'm drinking Lincoln's pee!
	Oh, God!
	What is he on?
	What is the point of this analogy?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Which it means is this.
	What that means is this.
	What that means is you're drinking Abe Lincoln's pee.
	He's unhinged.
	He's coming unhinged.
	Then, of course, he has to defend science because there is an anti-science movement, which I haven't gotten the sign-up form yet for.
	Do you believe there is an anti-science sentiment in the United States right now?
	Well, among some, yes.
	But I don't think it's anti-science in general.
	Those same people who might be in denial of certain scientific truths still use a smartphone.
	Stop, stop.
	What he implied there...
	It's a false equivalency.
	That's an example.
	Well, yes.
	But I'm thinking what he tried to get into the subconscious was...
	Scientific fact.
	He used the word scientific fact or something like that to imply that global warming is a done deal.
	And it's not based on a computer model, which is just speculation.
	Ah!
	Okay, there you go.
	There's a little neuro-linguistic programming for you.
	There is an anti-science sentiment in the United States right now.
	Well, among some, yes.
	But I don't think it's anti-science in general.
	Those same people who might be in denial of certain scientific truths still use a smartphone, you know, and, you know, to find grandma's house on a GPS grid.
	Many of them are alive and didn't die in childbirth because of advances in medicine.
	So I think fundamentally people cannot rationally say they're anti-science.
	What I think they object to is that as adults they have adopted a certain outlook on the world and think that denying science that conflicts with that outlook is actually overturning the truth of that science.
	It'd be like last week you gained weight and this week you want to repeal the law of gravity.
	What?
	Yeah, I would say, wouldn't you say the law of mass or something?
	But what does the law of gravity have to do?
	So that's going to make you less fat?
	Well, the law of gravity, if you repealed it and you stepped on a scale, you'd only weigh an ounce or a pound or 10 pounds less than you used to, depending.
	Ah.
	This guy is yack, yack, yack.
	Last week you gained weight and this week you want to repeal the law of gravity.
	No, it does not work that way.
	I'm sorry.
	Hold on a second, John.
	Hold on one second.
	Wow.
	Did you have grapefruit last night?
	Or this morning?
	I just drank your pee, you see.
	Ah!
	Okay.
	Winding it up.
	The most important thing when it comes to science.
	You've got mind-blowing tweets on everything.
	You've also been suggesting names for Beyonce's tweets.
	Mind-blowing.
	You stepped on it.
	You've got mind-blowing tweets on everything.
	You've also been suggesting names for Beyonce's twins.
	Cosmic names.
	How do you like that one?
	Yeah.
	For Beyonce's twins.
	Cosmic names.
	You went there.
	You went there.
	I had to.
	I saved it for the end.
	What are your suggestions for the Queen Bee?
	The Queen Bee.
	What are your suggestions for the Queen Bee?
	Please.
	I saved it for the end.
	What are your suggestions for the Queen Bee?
	Dr.
	Tyson.
	Yeah, I just had some...
	Well, I only did this because I think her daughter was named Blue Sky or something.
	There's some innovative name for her other kid.
	Blue Ivy, thank you.
	So I thought, okay.
	See, that the interviewer knew.
	Oh, no, no, no, that's not the right name.
	Yeah, she couldn't ask any other follow-up questions about computer models.
	But, hold on a second, that's Blue Ivy.
	I know all about that.
	I know about the Queen Bee's daughter.
	There's some...
	NPR. Exactly, NPR. Fade of name for other kids.
	Blue Ivy, thank you.
	So I thought, okay, well...
	She's open for some suggestions.
	So I just found a lot of paired phrases and words in the universe just to put it out there.
	And many of them actually are gender neutral.
	So you can just, no matter who they are or what gender they assign or choose, many of them will work.
	They assign, that's a huge microaggression.
	You don't get to assign.
	That's the whole point, DeGrasse Tyson.
	The child gets to choose.
	He's wrong!
	You can't...
	Assigning...
	First he tries to be all politically correct by saying, oh, it's gender-neutral names.
	I think the two names that I put together were douche and bag.
	But he's, oh, this is gender-neutral, and then goes on with a huge...
	Microaggression against non-binaries.
	Yes, he does.
	It's terrible.
	Yes.
	Universe, just to put it out there.
	And many of them actually are gender neutral.
	So you can just, no matter who they are or what gender they assign or choose, many of them will work.
	But I think my favorite was the last one I posted, which was, what was it?
	Quinn and Tessence.
	Quintessence.
	Wow!
	Wow!
	Comedian, too!
	Quinn and Tessence.
	The kicker here is, who was listening to this program?
	That's what you want to know.
	And I think I have the quintessinal...
	Quintessence, whatever.
	Quintessinal.
	Quintessinal, thank you.
	The quintessinal NPR listener who calls in and compliments Mr.
	DeGrasse, Dr.
	Tyson, on his fabulous interview.
	Let's get Brenda in here from Aiken, South Carolina.
	Hi, Brenda.
	You're on the air with Neil DeGrasse Tyson.
	Hi, Jane.
	Hi, Dr.
	Tyson.
	Yes, hello.
	I'm calling in praise of your humility, not only on your own behalf, but for all of us humans.
	Oh, no.
	Your humility.
	All of us humans.
	Your humility.
	That's a woman who's sitting at home hating Trump and is going to die of cancer if you don't stop the hate, people.
	This is what's killing you.
	I can't say it any different.
	You have this kind of hatred and horrible, you're harboring these feelings inside and it's beating you up.
	It is literally eating you up.
	That's my take on cancer.
	Not always, but totally one of the reasons in my mind.
	I'm not a doctor.
	So let's listen to, since we're on the subject of these celebrity icons, I got the little clip of Katy Perry sticking her foot in it and getting into trouble by being a racist.
	Oh, someone says I miss your old black hair.
	Oh, really?
	Do you miss Barack Obama as well?
	Okay, times change.
	Bye.
	See you guys later.
	Wow, douche.
	First of all, I didn't know she was that.
	Douchebag!
	You didn't know what?
	I didn't know she was that much of an idiot.
	But that was a little clip she made and posted and everyone's calling her out for being a racist because she's equating all black hair with black people, Obama.
	And I don't even know.
	But to be honest about it, I listened to this thing because I heard about it.
	It was a big fuss.
	I heard about it.
	I got the clip and I listened to it and I went, who gives a crap?
	This woman's, you know, she's just a dingbat.
	But okay.
	It's very much like the...
	I think we've been blocked by just about everybody.
	For what?
	Because we're alt-right KKK Nazi quadroons, if you recall.
	That is what's on the ban list.
	That's what we are.
	We're banned.
	But this caught my eye.
	It actually was pointed out to me.
	Now, you know that you've used the system in the Mastodon.
	When you toot, it's called CW, a content warning.
	So you can put a picture or text behind a little grayed-out area, and then if you actually want to see that, you have to explicitly click on it, and then it shows it, which I think is a great idea.
	That's what Twitter should have done, because then you're not triggered all the time.
	But...
	This B. Cavello, this woman who was in this social...
	I'm putting this in the show notes.
	You've got to read the whole thread.
	It's one of those little booklets that you like that Mastodon does so well.
	It has a nice little...
	The thread is really well done.
	One page.
	It's beautiful to look at.
	Yeah.
	The question here is, should a post like this have a hashtag CW for hashtag food?
	Hashtag CW, of course, stands for content warning.
	I'm not really clear on what that warning includes.
	I assume pictures, but I'm inconsistent when it comes to all mention.
	I confess I can feel hesitancy in myself sometimes regarding content warnings because the reward cycle of people responding to me feels less certain if I hide things.
	I know this isn't a good reason, but I still try to use content warnings responsibly.
	But I feel like it's worth acknowledging.
	I crave attention, validation, and some design patterns may emphasize or deemphasize those things in ways I'm still learning to react to.
	No other people are coming in.
	Any mention of food is usually a good idea for a content warning, in my opinion.
	You know what they're talking about?
	You know what they're talking about?
	What she posted that people got all upset about?
	Peanuts?
	A picture of macaroni and cheese.
	Why?
	Because this could trigger people with an eating disorder.
	Who?
	People with an eating disorder.
	When they see the macaroni and cheese picture, they will be triggered by it.
	And what would they do after they're triggered?
	Are they going to become mass murderers?
	It depends on what the eating disorder is.
	It could be binge.
	Are they going to start throwing up all over the computer?
	That could be a problem.
	It could be someone who wants to binge.
	I mean, that's serious.
	But come on.
	I mean, we're going to stop everything.
	I mean, you have to stop everything.
	It's going to be just a world where you just have everything is covered.
	Oh, don't look at this.
	You might get triggered.
	I mean, seriously, macaroni and cheese.
	They're worried that that will trigger someone, so we have to put it behind a little content warning.
	Warning.
	Macaroni and cheese ahead.
	This is...
	So, we've gone nuts.
	We've gone nuts.
	Living the mac and cheese life.
	Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand.
	Ugh.
	Well, it's time for a reboot.
	We're going to get one.
	I think economically that'll set a lot of this stuff into the back burner where it belongs.
	Let's talk a little bit about back burners where it belongs.
	Some of the action going on in the UK with the Brexit, of course, falls right into my thesis, which I've maintained since day one, since we started the show, that this is really the Fourth Reich.
	And you can't, you know, once you're in it, you can't get out.
	They're not going to let the UK leave.
	It's the Roach Motel.
	And so let's play a couple of clips, if you don't mind.
	Let's start with Brexit woes, the beginning.
	British Prime Minister Theresa May has accused the European Union of meddling in Britain's general election.
	In a forceful speech outside Downing Street, May said that European officials had issued what she is calling threats about Britain's withdrawal from the EU. She said that they were designed to affect the outcome of a snap poll taking place on the 8th of June.
	According to a report in the Financial Times today, Europe is raising the stakes in the Brexit negotiations to 100 billion euros.
	The potential price tag of Britain's divorce from the EU will do little to heat up already frosty relations between Brussels and London and that before negotiations have even begun.
	They've offered 50 billion, 60 billion, 100 billion.
	We've actually not been given an official number.
	Whilst we'll meet our international obligations, we'll meet the legal ones, not the best guesses and wishes of the Commission.
	The EU's chief Brexit negotiator, Michel Barnier, is adamant there will be no easy way out for Britain.
	In Brussels today, Barnier maintained that commitments have been made and those responsibilities have to be honoured.
	Some have created the illusion that Brexit would have no material impact on our lives.
	This is not the case.
	London is also taking a sharper tone.
	Prime Minister Theresa May made some serious allegations against Brussels.
	Threats against Britain have been issued by European politicians and officials.
	All of these acts have been deliberately timed to affect the result of the general election that will take place on the 8th of June.
	The Brexit negotiations seem set to be bruising.
	Talks are likely to begin soon after the snap election.
	Snap election.
	So here's what I don't understand.
	$100 billion.
	So?
	That's doable.
	It is doable, but they don't want to do it because they don't owe $100 billion.
	How do you know?
	Well, that's my understanding.
	If anything, it's about 40.
	Why do they owe any money?
	Well, I guess there's some indebtedness that's involved with the back and forth.
	I ask the same question.
	They're one of the most rich and successful of all the EU countries.
	It seems to me that they should get money to leave.
	Yeah.
	Because it seems as though the EU owes them money.
	But okay, we'll just let that slide.
	But this is a...
	Because we don't...
	In fact, we see this with the French elections.
	The two candidates, which I don't have any part...
	By the way, the French debate with...
	Yeah.
	Le Pen and...
	I saw some of that.
	That was pretty cool.
	Did you catch the line she threw at him?
	The line that there's going to be a female leader of France?
	No.
	That one?
	No.
	Let me give you my line and you can top it.
	Okay.
	She says, well, whatever happens...
	In the election, there's going to be a female leader of France.
	Either me or Merkel.
	No, the one I caught was...
	So they were arguing.
	It was pretty heated.
	She said, hey, hold on a second.
	We don't have a student-teacher relationship here, okay?
	Which, of course, is a huge dig because his wife was his teacher when he was in, I don't know, kindergarten or whatever.
	Oh, my God, that's great.
	Well, the way they said that, people should note this.
	They had, like, a couple of moderators, but they were sitting there, and these two were sitting across from each other for three hours just berating each other.
	Yeah, it was good.
	We should do that.
	It's better than any debate I've ever seen in this country.
	And they have those big clocks on each side, so you're counting down how many minutes you have.
	It's like a chess clock.
	Yes.
	Much more sophisticated.
	Oh, now, television production-wise, not that exciting.
	It wasn't a grandiose, pompous thing, which we like to do.
	No, it wasn't bad.
	No.
	It wasn't bad in terms of design, but it's riveting.
	Yes, it was really fun.
	I have a clip from it.
	I mean, it's two people pretty much berating each other in a very entertaining fashion.
	Can I play this?
	Let me get my Farage clip, by the way, on the Brexit.
	Farage is on his radio show.
	And this is something I didn't know was going on, but I think this is...
	At the end of this, what the EU is going to do or is trying to do is absolutely deplorable.
	Is that the cue?
	Well, in the face of the Brexit negotiations, the Daily Telegraph reveal they've seen secret documents that show that the EU have privately decided to block any deal to guarantee the rights of UK citizens living in the European Union and, of course, the reciprocity that would come for the over 3 million EU citizens living in our country.
	It is truly extraordinary.
	Well, it was them...
	Actually, there was accusing Theresa May of not being reasonable.
	And I've said already, they're asking for a fortune.
	They're trying to stop us reaching out to speak to other parts of the world.
	They want us after we've left to maintain all their rules.
	And worse than that, they've effectively given the Spanish a veto over Gibraltar.
	And worst of all, in my opinion, worst of all, the EU have indicated that if Northern Ireland...
	Would opt to leave the United Kingdom and join up with ERA, there would be absolutely no problem in a new United Ireland virtually automatically becoming a member of the European Union.
	So what they are doing to try to make Brexit negotiations difficult for this government is they are prepared to stoke Irish nationalism and And all that could come with that, I have to say.
	I think that perhaps is the most contemptible thing that I've heard so far.
	So he's talking about like Northern Ireland type stuff, bombing and blowing up IRA. Wow.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	I actually have, if you're interested, I have, of course I had a Brexit clip.
	I have a little, I wanted to play the little piece where, what Theresa May actually said, because that wasn't in your report.
	The British Prime Minister has visited Buckingham Palace to formally dissolve Parliament ahead of June's snap election.
	It marks the official start of campaigning, and Theresa May wasted no time in making a plea for voters to give her Conservative Party a large majority in order to strengthen her hand in divorce talks with Brussels.
	After meeting the Queen, May accused EU officials of issuing threats over Brexit, deliberately timed to influence the election.
	There are some in Brussels who do not want these talks to succeed, who do not want Britain to prosper.
	So now, more than ever, we need to be led by a Prime Minister and a government that is strong and stable.
	Because making Brexit a success is central to our national interest.
	And it is central to your own security and prosperity.
	There you go.
	And she's pretty much saying that they're meddling in their elections.
	Where have we heard that before?
	You hear it all the time.
	How come Putin's not doing it?
	Yeah, Putin should get involved.
	He should do a little propaganda.
	Crank up the RT antennas.
	All I know is that this is a disaster waiting to happen.
	I don't know if the elections are going to go the way and there may be nothing come of it.
	You know, you have the same exact people in America that retired, which is what I think is going to happen.
	But it's not going to be this huge mandate.
	And I think half of the country still would just as soon be European and give up on their own sovereignty.
	Brussels tell us what to do, we'll be fine with it.
	No nations, no borders.
	Which is just beyond me.
	It just makes zero sense to me.
	Well, having lived there, during this changeover, I moved back to Amsterdam in 1999, the end of 99, and I witnessed the whole thing.
	It was sold, and to this day, I think people still believe it.
	So besides the no borders, so you can travel wherever you want, you don't have to go through any passport control.
	Everyone has the same money, which of course is the real change.
	Once you control the money, you control everything.
	But the way people and the campaigns, there was actual propaganda.
	Of course, they just call it promotion of the European concept.
	Was we're all Europeans.
	We're all brothers and sisters.
	We all live together.
	We all love each other.
	We're the new Europeans.
	We'll even like the new Germans.
	We won't make the joke about the bike and all that stuff.
	That is...
	It was pounded into people's heads.
	And they believe it.
	And they believe it.
	And they believe in...
	It's like, hey, we want to be a great...
	This is what happened.
	I should mention this.
	People should look into this.
	Before World War I... We're good to go.
	Between 1900 and World War I, it was on the upward slope.
	It was going skyrocketing, and it was the same situation.
	And when the war broke out, it was horrible.
	It just went from, oh, everybody's so happy, to just the most miserable situation you can imagine.
	And that's exactly what this is leading to.
	I don't like that.
	You mean leading towards another great war?
	Yes.
	Ugh.
	I mean, this phony baloney, oh yeah, we're great, you know, that's Brussels.
	I mean, the whole thing of Brussels and these idiotic regulations, rules, and laws that they're creating for all these other countries...
	Their mentality there is not the same as anybody like in Hungary, for example, seems to be one of the few countries that seems to be resisting a little bit.
	They wanted to be in the deal for the trade aspect.
	They didn't want guys in Brussels telling them what to do.
	That's why they cut off the, no, no, no, we don't want any migrants.
	We've already been through that like 200, 300 years ago.
	We didn't like it then.
	Yeah, well, I think that people inherently like to have a leader, you know, someone who has the public persona who is running the joint.
	And I feel that having been there when all this took place, it was like, yeah, let's have someone running the whole Europe.
	You know, this is great.
	We'll be great.
	We'll be more powerful in America, more people, so our money will be great.
	We'll be able to...
	Basically, America, America, America.
	We'll be able to travel back and forth like in America.
	We'll have our own Washington, which will be in Brussels.
	The only thing they messed up is the people who were there we didn't actually vote for.
	Whoa, well.
	Oversight.
	Just keep on going.
	It's all right.
	They can't introduce any laws.
	Constitution.
	Which is why the French and the Dutch turned it down.
	Right, they put a big parliament together, and the parliament can't do anything.
	Well, they can't introduce laws, and they can only send stuff back for a yellow card or a red card, which just means send it back and then fix it, the commission, the unelected secret commission.
	Not secret.
	Yeah, that sits there grinding laws out.
	Yeah.
	And some people are figuring it out.
	But in general, no.
	People are stupid.
	People are stupid.
	They're stupid everywhere.
	I think it's a miracle that Brexit passed.
	Well, it's the same miracle that Trump won.
	Well, yes.
	So is it a miracle or is it just sign of the times?
	Well, we're going to find out after this next snap election in June.
	And then as this progresses...
	You know, I've never understood this system in the UK. We're very simple.
	We have every four years, every two years for the House and Senate.
	But how do they determine...
	I've never really looked into it.
	Did they just say, oh, let's have an election?
	I mean, it's like we're sitting around drinking.
	Hey, I got an idea.
	Somebody can tell me I'm wrong about this, but the prime minister decides that things are skewed in one way or another, and she calls for an election, and then the House of Commons, and I think confirmed by the House of Lords, says, okay.
	And then they have an election.
	But is that the only time?
	Or if you're elected, then you're just in there?
	Okay, max term is five years, the war room says.
	Okay, so we have five years max.
	But if you can just say, hey, let's do an election.
	Yeah, you can do an election when you feel like it.
	Which is also, I think, pretty much...
	And it's usually for political reasons.
	Yeah, political propagandistic reasons.
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	We think we have an edge right now.
	We'll have an election and we'll get more people on our side.
	Or we're not going to have an election because we don't have an edge.
	And so the Prime Minister never calls for one until the five years or whatever period of time is up.
	Then they have to do one.
	So they have a lot of elections.
	There have been moments where they've had two or three of them.
	Yeah, you're right.
	How long has she been in?
	About a little over a year, if that?
	No, not even.
	Not even.
	So, we'll see.
	But it's a mess.
	And they got themselves entangled in this.
	I don't know how you do that.
	We've done it with the WTO. We've given up our sovereignty in a lot of ways.
	And we're all for, you know, no borders.
	Oh, hell with it.
	What do you need borders for?
	Let everyone go wherever they want.
	Oh, boy.
	Yeah.
	Well...
	I don't know.
	I mean, you know, if you're an internationalist, you would...
	For one thing, you're rich.
	You're an internationalist.
	You're loaded.
	And you got a lot of stuff.
	And you don't want people stealing your stuff.
	Right.
	You know what to do.
	Yeah.
	So you want to have this thing kind of just a wild west out there, except in your enclave.
	Right.
	You're in Monaco.
	Or you're in Los Altos Hills.
	You're not worrying about when all hell breaks loose and the power goes out in San Francisco and they're looting and rioting.
	Eh, so what?
	It's got nothing to do with you.
	Apparently the Queen can dissolve the government whenever she feels like it.
	I don't know if that's ever happened.
	I think you have to go to the Queen to get her to make the decision to do it.
	Yeah, but she's just ceremonial, please.
	Always remember, just ceremonial.
	I know, I get it.
	So speaking of people stealing their stuff, there were, again, from C-SPAN stuff happening up in D.C., the president of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, Patricia Harrison, now this is about PBS, and if you watch PBS, I watched it last night, There are ads.
	They take commercial breaks.
	And then I see 23andMe.
	I see all kinds of stuff.
	I mean, it's just they have advertising, correct?
	Yes.
	And we know that the actual funding from CPB is small for CPB from the government.
	It's very small.
	I think it's like...
	15%.
	I think it's even less than that.
	Yeah, it could be.
	We might as well take a look.
	I know it's been shrinking.
	Hold on.
	Percentage funding PBS government.
	This will be very unscientific, but at least...
	Okay.
	In 2012, according to the Washington Post, so that would be...
	I guess good enough is proof.
	Whereas I'm rolling down here.
	It's a very small amount.
	NPR and PBS combined got $445 million.
	About 0.014% of the federal government.
	But how much is it of their budget?
	Hmm...
	Well, what's their budget?
	There's $400 million total there.
	Well, that's what PBS and NPR received combined.
	I know for NPR, it's like 2%.
	It's a very small amount of money.
	We'll get the answer to that.
	So she's in a hearing, and I just wanted to play this because it's really quite interesting how she just lies about where their money comes from.
	Okay, let's say it's 17%.
	That's not the end of the world.
	Oh, and this, of course, is a setup, as usual, to get it on the record, to ask a question of which the answer is already known and rehearsed.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	So, they get forward funding years in advance, and she's going to explain how that works with television.
	But she says it's very important because then it doesn't matter who's in...
	Because I guess the money has already been given to them, so they can't change their programming or say we're not going to fund it for this.
	Is that what she's saying?
	That's what she's implying.
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay.
	Well, I think if you get anything from the government, you can get all kinds of hassle.
	It may not be immediately, but a year down the road it could happen if people didn't like what you did with their forward funding.
	I don't understand why she thinks that's how it works.
	Oh, here it is.
	I'm sorry.
	PBS gets 15% of its budget from the government, NPR 2%.
	I was right.
	Okay, well, I was right about the 15% number I got, I guess, is the one that's stuck in my brain.
	2%?
	NPR, 2%.
	This is PBS, 15%.
	Yeah.
	It's called...
	This is what's great.
	So what she's actually describing here, and I think we should talk about it before I let her explain, is how commercial television works.
	Because they're just commercial.
	She's full of crap.
	They have ads.
	And their ads pay for a lot.
	And it can also be Archer Daniel Midland.
	But they have actual commercial breaks.
	What she's trying to say, well, she's hiding it, is this is how commercial television works.
	You've got to invest in your pilot.
	You've got to take it to the upfront.
	You've got to show it to the affiliates.
	They decide if they want to get it.
	They take that pilot back home and they go to their local advertisers and say, will you advertise on this program?
	Can we get the money?
	Okay, good.
	Now we'll order 10 episodes.
	It's an abstraction of how it works, but that's how it works.
	So the reason why she says we need our funding up front is not because the government doesn't have control.
	It's because you're participating in the commercial up front system.
	Raise the money.
	You mean sell ads, you liar!
	Raise the money.
	Bull crap.
	If it's only 15% on PBS, it's not important.
	Yeah, it's ads, ads, ads, whatever you want to call it.
	It's all about ads, whatever you want to call it.
	Something that we do not have on this particular program.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on no agenda in the morning.
	Hold on a second, Joe.
	People are saying they can't hear the clips.
	I can hear the clips.
	I can hear the clips.
	Got it.
	I don't know.
	You wouldn't be able to hear them on the stream.
	And why would they say it now?
	This is like the show's almost over.
	I don't know.
	All right.
	Doesn't matter.
	They would have said something sooner.
	Yeah, it's very interesting.
	A couple of things I want to bring up before I start with it.
	Anonymous is a $100 donation from Maidstone Canton.
	A lot of UK today.
	In fact, the top two donors are from the UK. Well, you know, we're helping them with their mental hygiene on Brexit and other issues of European nature.
	So a couple of things.
	One, if you're going to do the pop money thing, try to do it through a credit union or some mechanism.
	And if you're going to just do it straight to the show...
	You cannot send it to john at dvorak.org.
	I had one come in.
	Oh, I sent you all this money.
	John at dvorak.org.
	And I said the pop money.
	I get an email.
	I got to go through a rigmarole.
	Oh, okay.
	I have to, one, go through a rigmarole to get it.
	Two, now I'm intermingling my personal account with the company.
	That's how you get audited.
	And I'm going to get in trouble with the IRS. That's how we get audited.
	Exactly.
	So don't do that.
	And I'm going to have to bring a lawsuit against you.
	You're stealing our money.
	Yeah.
	It's no agenda.
	RORIC.org is one you can use.
	But I would recommend going through a credit union and then going straight to the bank with it.
	I have all the information on the bank.
	Just send me a note and I'll tell you where it is.
	It's available.
	Yes, the page ends in.htn.
	I actually got three things now.
	The second one is...
	I think I'm close to knighthood.
	How much do I owe you?
	Kind of thing.
	We don't know this.
	We said this on the show a million times.
	I'm going to say it again.
	I don't want to be angry about it.
	But do your own accounting.
	Just do it.
	You can be wrong by five bucks or ten.
	I mean, you don't have to be perfectly accurate.
	Most people are.
	It doesn't really take that much to do.
	Did you see the last email from Eric?
	What did he say?
	Oh, he said, oh, I'm going to set it up so people can automatically tell.
	I'm like, oh, God.
	Well, he had it before, but he was definitely running it through Contact Avenue.
	And it doesn't work because we get checked sometimes, and people use various methodologies.
	Different email addresses, different names.
	All kinds of different things.
	Anonymous.
	And the idea is you can do it.
	You can just keep track, and then you can keep an eye on your own account.
	It's not really that difficult.
	You can do it, people.
	You can do it.
	And I thought it was magnanimous to do it that way because it's on the honor system.
	Yeah.
	Now, the other one is we do have a method of who gets to say what.
	You know, in other words, if you send in $100 and then you have a million clip requests.
	Yeah.
	$200 is where we started doing that.
	We used to do, when the show first began, and probably for the first couple of years, we would read all the notes and do all the jingle requests and do everything.
	Right down to $50 where it becomes anonymous after that or below that.
	And we used to do that.
	And then the show started dragging because everybody, some people were writing that War and Peace by Tolstoy would be in the note for the $52 donation.
	And then everybody was asking for a million clips because it was fun.
	It's fun to do.
	And yeah, we'll do a dedouching or some call-outs and things like that.
	But generally speaking, we don't do all these requests because...
	Everybody was turning off to it because it was dragging the show.
	It was too much blather from, you know, just...
	And the way I see it, you know, people were writing lectures and reading them, every word of it.
	And it became a nuisance and it became ridiculous.
	And so we had to stop it.
	And so $200 was the cutoff point.
	So at $200...
	Maybe you should add that to the donation page.
	I don't know if it's on there or not.
	I think it is on there.
	If it's not, I will add a note.
	Okay, will you then also remove the NoAgendaStickers.com link, which still links to the Chinese porn?
	Yeah, I get one.
	If you see the thing that says NoAgendaStickers.com, don't click on it.
	So this is just a little housekeeping.
	I wanted to get out of the way because people, I guess we don't talk about it enough.
	And so we're talking about it.
	All right.
	So let's now do the list of people, the well-wishers.
	It's not really a big list because it was Cinco de Mayo Day.
	Nobody really cared about that.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's fascinating.
	We're like, hey, Cinco de Mayo is going to be great.
	Cinco de Mayo.
	Yeah, we got no donations.
	John Robinet in the U.S., $100.
	Lon Baker, $100.
	Also in the U.S., Monica Kidwell, $99.99.
	And she has a...
	Free that initial donation.
	She needs a dedouching.
	We'll give her one.
	I'll give her right now.
	You've been dedouched.
	Forgive me, Podfather.
	I was hit in the mouth by co-worker Scott in August.
	I've been freeloading since then.
	I've sent my initial donation of $99.99 via PayPal to receive a dedouching instead of a monthly donation.
	I think your Jobs Karma really works.
	They start a new job this week.
	Great.
	We'll have more.
	We'll heap on some more Jobs Karma in a moment.
	Alex Simkus, 92.50.
	I've been seeing 33s everywhere.
	I knew it was time.
	Yes, it happens a lot.
	33, donate.
	33, donate.
	Lance Forrest.
	That's a magic number.
	Lance Forrest in Newport, North Carolina.
	Keep up the good work.
	9250.
	Now, 9250 is a...
	Is that the Star Wars number?
	See, this is where we screwed up.
	Today is apparently Star Wars day, and that's what we should have done.
	Oh, yeah.
	I didn't realize this.
	Then we totally screwed up.
	And Star Wars is your beat.
	No, it's not.
	I haven't even seen all of the Star Wars movies.
	What are you talking about?
	Mika Miller, Bethel, Pennsylvania, 92.
	Micah.
	Micah.
	Sorry.
	Brian Rosa in Milton, New York, A08. Boob.
	The boob donation puts him over the top.
	He's going to be knighted today, I believe.
	Yes.
	The boob donation puts me over the top for knighthood.
	Love the work you do and make sense of the world that used to confuse me for this.
	I thank you.
	Can you knight me, sir?
	Brian of the Jeep Flow.
	And can I get a Reverend Manning whipping with the Constitution for the end of the show and a little karma never hurts?
	Of course I will get a whoop-em, whoop-em for the end of the show.
	You got it.
	Melissa Hodges, the other boob.
	Kale Nelson, 73, 73.
	73 is Kilo 5 Alpha, Charlie, Charlie.
	Kale is from the Ham Radio 360 podcast, which I listen to.
	Kale 4, Canadian Dollar National.
	Kilo 4, Charlie Delta, November.
	Mark DeWitt in Saudi Daisy, Tennessee, are regular there.
	He needs a moving karma.
	Put a little karma at the end for you.
	Dude named Muhammad Ali.
	We have a dude named Muhammad Ali, but this is, I mean, Muhammad, but we have a dude named Muhammad Ali, 6440.
	It's two different guys?
	It's not the same guy?
	6440, I bet you it's a different guy.
	Okay.
	Brandon Gruber in Vista, California.
	Bryce Laughlin in Columbus, Ohio.
	These are 5562s.
	These are the 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10 Sanco de Mayo donations.
	Starting with Brandon Gruber.
	Then Bryce Laughlin.
	Kaylin Nistor of Sanco de Mayo.
	Daniel Reynolds.
	Jacob Honan.
	Jessica Hardy in Mayo, Maryland.
	Kevin Gabriel in Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
	Sam Knox.
	Sir Brad Doherty.
	Doherty.
	Thank you for putting that on there.
	Doherty.
	In Yardley, Pennsylvania.
	And the last San Francisco de Mayo donation, Sir Nick in Waterford.
	Not one Latino.
	Sir Tom Derry in DeForest, Wisconsin, 5510.
	Sir Herb Lamb, 5507.
	Adam Beck in Las Vegas, 50.
	The following people are $50 donors, name and location if available.
	Adam Beck, anonymous.
	Justin Barber.
	Matthew Januszewski out of Chicago.
	Nicholas Robinson in Redwood City over here should be on the train to the train museum.
	Robert Bruckner in Gilbert, Arizona.
	And Shane Rozdilski in Saskatoon.
	Sir Alan Bean in Oakland.
	And last but not least, Todd Brink in New Berlin.
	And Tyler Schimpf, I believe.
	Schimpf.
	No, it's the Schimpf.
	Bothell, Washington.
	Schimpf.
	Tyler, let me know if you're related to Hans.
	Yeah.
	Because that name is a very peculiar name.
	And the kid I grew up next to, Hans Schimpf, who I grew up next to, I've never heard that name anywhere else.
	So I wonder if he's related.
	Maybe.
	Well...
	That's it.
	That's all we got.
	Short group.
	Short list.
	Short list of well wishes for Sanco de Mayo, which is tomorrow.
	Yeah.
	And we'll hope to do better on Sunday, I hope.
	And that'll be that.
	Well, we always do the best that we can.
	And we appreciate it, of course.
	We'd like you to continue to support the program any way you can.
	I got some, you know, people are sending in clips.
	It's great.
	The artwork's fantastic.
	Jingles.
	It's highly appreciated.
	But, of course, we also do need...
	The financial support.
	So remember us for Sunday's show.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. As requested.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	You've got karma.
	Well, just like donations, very short list today.
	We say happy birthday to Vanessa Hampshire.
	She celebrates this weekend as she donated as our executive producer for today's program.
	And Sir Nick Asmendi says happy birthday to his mom, May.
	She turned 60 yesterday.
	We say happy birthday from all you buddies here at the Best Podcast in the Universe.
	It's your birthday, yeah!
	And we have...
	Wedding anniversary, Sir Herb Lamb, and I presume his wife, celebrating tomorrow, May 5th, Sanctum DeMaio.
	And Tina the Keeper and I also celebrate our anniversary tomorrow, May 5th.
	You got married?
	No, it's our anniversary of...
	Oh, the meeting anniversary.
	No, it was going study.
	Oh, the first date anniversary.
	Oh, the Going Steady anniversary.
	Yes.
	Well, you're missing out on all these other anniversaries.
	We can put them in the show.
	Maybe we can get some donations.
	I learned yesterday that Texas is a Commonwealth marriage state.
	And that means?
	If you live together as a married couple for more than six months, then in the eyes of the law, you're married.
	You're done!
	Excellent!
	I've always wanted to get my hands on her money.
	You know, Texas isn't as bad.
	There's places like Georgia when you get married there.
	I mean, I know guys that have been married and divorced in Georgia, and they claim that's the worst, that place.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	And they say women get a raw deal.
	You get a raw deal in Georgia.
	Guys or women?
	Hello?
	Yes?
	Guys or men?
	Guys or girls who get a raw deal in Georgia?
	Guys get a raw deal in Georgia.
	It's very reverse misogynistic, I guess.
	I don't know what you'd call that.
	Well, anyway, two years, the Keeper and I, we never had a fight.
	You've never had a fight.
	If there's a fight, I'm thinking murder-suicide.
	We're going to celebrate with a bathtub and candles.
	Oh, yeah.
	Don't forget some soft music.
	Luther Vandross.
	Luther Vandross, yes.
	And some dimmed lighting.
	Ah, yeah, John, you know all about it.
	A little bit of ranch hand, we're good to go.
	The purple lighting.
	Ah.
	Yeah.
	Got a special karma request from Sir Jim Blanchard, Sir Cull of the left turn at Albuquerque.
	He says, I'm in Syria.
	And of course, we always stop for nights, as you know.
	I'm in serious need of some jobs, karma.
	I'm sending a check for $99.99, hoping that using this magic number...
	Three times over, we'll put an especially good spin on it as I was laid off seven months ago, ran out my unemployment, cashed in my 401k to move to FEMA Region 8, Boulder, Colorado, from FEMA Region 6, Albuquerque, New Mexico, to look for better work.
	While I'm finding better opportunities, the process of finding a job using the internet sucks and I'm getting passed over a lot.
	In the past three months, I've only gotten four actual interviews.
	The last interview I had last week went very well.
	I need some jobs karma followed by little girl yay to seal the deal.
	I think that we should probably do that before we do our nighting, John, because that's important.
	Here we go.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Yay!
	Yay!
	You've got karma.
	Yay!
	Alright, that should seal the deal.
	There we go.
	Alright, John, one nighting today.
	If you can just need the medium blade.
	Okay, that'll do for today's show.
	Ah, let me see.
	Brian Rosa.
	Hello, sir.
	Could you please step on up to the podium next to the lectern here as you are about to be inducted into that very exclusive club.
	It is the No Agenda Knights at the round table, the Knights and the Dames.
	And I am very proud to pronounce the KD, Sir Brian of the Jeep.
	Yes, for you we have hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay.
	We've got Nicaraguan cigars, rolled in Panama papers, whiskey and bacon, sake and skanks, Legos and leg warmers, meat and water, garlic and broccoli, espresso and hemp milk, fried bread and fembots, root beer and pepperoni pizza, breast milk and pablum, ginger ale and gerbils, sparkling cider and escorts, bong hits and bourbon, vodka and vanilla, gashes and sake, and of course the ever-effervescent mutton and mead.
	Do you have to take a breath in the middle of that?
	No, I don't.
	I should.
	Why?
	It's because it's just like astonishing.
	It's all one breath.
	It's extremely long when you only have one night.
	He gets the most.
	Well, the music is only so long.
	Hence that.
	New York Times.
	New York Times.
	In an opinion piece titled, Why is Asian Salad Still on the Menu?
	And this is...
	What?
	Asian salad.
	Asian salad.
	Why?
	It's an opinion piece.
	This is an op-ed.
	Op-ed.
	In the New York Times.
	Yes.
	And this is a serious op-ed?
	Yes.
	I shall read to you.
	This is Bonnie Sue.
	So she's Asian.
	Argues that Asian salad reeks of cultural appropriation by racist Westerners.
	Her rant was triggered by the Asian emperor salad listed on the menu at some San Francisco joint where she was.
	Quote, I tried to identify exactly what that was, she wrote.
	I made a half-hearted joke to my husband about just which Asian emperor this salad was honoring.
	I thought about its grand imprecision, which irritated me as a Chinese-American, and I wondered, who cooked up this thing?
	Because it's racist.
	This is how far we're going, John.
	We're taking this to the max.
	Yep, that's pretty close to it.
	Why would the New York Times run such a vapid piece for op-eds?
	Can't they find anything that's actually meaningful?
	Well, they ran out of...
	Said somebody bitching about cultural appropriation because they used the word Asian.
	They ran out of Samantha Bee rants.
	And by the way, there's no...
	I've never had a salad in any place anywhere in Asia ever.
	You mean mixed greens with ginger dressing is not really a Japanese thing?
	I've never had it.
	But that pales in comparison to this document that I received.
	And this is a document describing gender-inclusive terms for healthcare workers.
	See, healthcare workers, their bedside manner, you know, they really have to do things right.
	By the way, is that Chinese woman, does she wear Western garb?
	Isn't that cultural appropriation?
	Absolutely.
	Shouldn't Asians wear traditional Asian clothing?
	Well, she's Chinese-American, so she's only half-triggered.
	Anyway, go on.
	I'm sorry.
	All right.
	So these, I have a few, because I know you love them.
	Gender-inclusive terms for pregnancy, birth, and sexual health.
	This is what the healthcare workers of America are being recommended to use, and what not to use, more importantly.
	So they have two columns on this, gendered terms and agender or gender-inclusive terms.
	Agender.
	Jeez, is this our word, agender?
	Agender, wow.
	All right, so I'm going to give you a gender term, and then you're going to tell me what's wrong with it.
	What's wrong with it?
	Yeah.
	So these are the no side.
	You get a column that says wrong.
	Right.
	Wrong column.
	So these are things that healthcare workers would say to patients.
	It could be a healthcare worker at home or in the hospital.
	It could be a nurse.
	I'm going to tell you why they're wrong.
	All right.
	Here, okay, this statement.
	How's mom feeling today?
	Why is that wrong?
	You know, the nurse will come in, hey, how's mom feeling today with the new mother, right?
	New mother, hey, how's mom feeling today?
	This is wrong!
	So that's wrong.
	That's got to be wrong for a number of reasons.
	One, it's cultural appropriation.
	Two, it's diminutive.
	It should be mother, if anything.
	And how do you know it's...
	I don't know.
	What else?
	It's baffling to me that someone would come in there and say, how's mom doing today?
	And that would be wrong.
	It should only be, hello, name, how are you feeling today?
	You should not use the word mom.
	Okay, next.
	I need dad to step out of the room for the epidural.
	Same thing.
	No.
	Who is the parent that will be giving birth, is what that means.
	Okay, next.
	I'm trying to get the hang of it, but I'm having trouble.
	It's difficult.
	After birth, you will be moved to the mother and baby unit.
	I don't have to explain that one, right?
	No, they should move them to the execution unit.
	To the gas chamber.
	Oh...
	Who is the father of the child?
	See, these things are...
	You can't say...
	Oh, that's just bad.
	You can't do...
	That's just bad?
	Yeah, because you got a father there and a mom there, apparently, but it could be an uncle that's just visiting.
	It could be the dad-in-law.
	You don't know that that's the dad, so it's being presumptuous.
	Here's how you have to ask.
	Please specify on the birth certificate or pre-birth order who is the gestational parent.
	Oh, God.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Here we go.
	Will your husband be here for the ultrasound?
	Wrong.
	This is very wrong.
	Very wrong.
	You don't know that they're married?
	Here's how you're supposed to say it.
	Will any co-parents be present for prenatal office visits?
	You can't even say ultrasound, apparently.
	Excellent.
	Is your wife the caregiver?
	Uh-oh.
	I don't even have to explain what's wrong with that one.
	Too many assumptions.
	Oh, hear it.
	Is your daughter sleeping well?
	Is your daughter sleeping well?
	Maybe you can see it as projecting because there may be a second daughter that's at home and you don't know whether she's sleeping or not.
	No, you should just say, congratulations, you birthed a beautiful baby.
	That's all you should say.
	So you don't want to assume gender.
	Or assume that Z is not sleeping well.
	There you go.
	We need a postnatal assessment on baby boy so-and-so.
	The use of the word boy.
	Can't do that.
	Their infant needs to be taken to the NICU for vitals.
	The what?
	The NICU. That's the Natal Intensive Care Unit.
	I have no idea why that would be wrong.
	Yeah.
	It's got no mention of gender.
	It's got no mention of anything.
	What you're supposed to say instead?
	You're supposed to talk about the infant, not about the baby boy, and instead of...
	I didn't hear baby boy.
	Oh, I must have...
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's heard.
	You can't assume boy.
	That's out.
	We don't want boys.
	Are you still on maternity leave?
	Cute maternity clothes.
	If you say any of that, you should be shot.
	It's just completely wrong.
	Yeah, I agree.
	The same with where's the maternity unit.
	You can't say maternity unit because that's gender specific.
	So basically, we all should just be like Barbies with mounds instead of genitals.
	Yeah, no genitals allowed.
	No discussion of such.
	How's your mound doing?
	My mound's pretty good.
	Yeah, the mound.
	Well, that's great.
	That'll be flying high in California.
	Yes, you know.
	You know it will be.
	Now, I've got a couple of notes.
	I want to read and get out of the way.
	We're doing this thing with words, people coming up with old phrases and stuff.
	We've got to get a great collection.
	Well, hold on, hold on.
	We do have a jingle for you.
	Phrase from the chaise.
	Phrase from the chaise, everybody.
	John C. Dvorak.
	The word C stands for chaise.
	Kevin writes in, one of our producers, he says, my wife's uncle, who is gay, will refer to another gay man as, quote, a friend of Dorothy.
	Of Dorothy from The Wizard of Oz?
	Actually, I'm guessing that.
	This was apparently a code used between homosexual men when referring to a third person.
	He now uses it, ironically.
	I don't know.
	Ironically.
	I don't know how he uses it ironically unless he's just referring to everybody.
	As a friend of Dorothy.
	Yeah, a friend of Dorothy.
	I like it.
	Well, I've heard similar.
	Friend of Dorothy.
	And that's it?
	I've never heard that.
	That's it?
	That's today's phrase.
	That is the phrase.
	Phrase from the chain.
	If anybody has a source of code words, I think that would be really good in this little collection.
	Another note came in.
	This is just an interesting note that came in on the 4th of March, actually.
	When I was in the service 10 years ago, we shipped our whole unit to Iraq via Russian merchant ships.
	He says that most of the deployments are on Russian ships.
	Yeah, we used to be buddies.
	Yeah, we used to be buddies.
	What happened?
	Putin happened.
	Putin!
	Well, now that you bring it up, let me have a couple of Putin-Russia things.
	Oh, this was actually quite interesting.
	This is Vladimir Putin, the president of Russia, and he is here talking about how they never interfere with other countries' politics.
	Yeah, sure.
	But what was funny about it is there are questions between, I think, some journalist and someone else, pipes in like a TV host, and the translator does all those people in the same voice.
	And really fast.
	So it's like, what?
	It's like a conversation that should never take place.
	I think that's because she's keeping up with the speed of the Russian.
	Russians speak pretty rapidly.
	This is a true translation, but it sounds like it.
	We never interfere in other countries' politics.
	We really want nobody to meddle in our internal affairs, in our politics.
	Unfortunately, we see the opposite happen for years.
	For years we've seen attempts to influence political processes in Russia through the so-called NGOs and directly.
	Realizing the futility of such efforts It has never occurred to us to interfere in other countries' internal affairs.
	That's number one.
	Number two, you mentioned the example with the United States, but nobody has been able to prove this.
	These are just rumors used For internal political struggle in the U.S. He's very clear.
	Very clear.
	We don't do that.
	Of course you do.
	Everybody does it and we're the masters.
	We are the foam finger number one.
	We are the best.
	Meanwhile...
	News now coming into the Cairo 7 newsroom.
	The Kremlin says Russian President Vladimir Putin and President Donald Trump have agreed to try to schedule a meeting in Germany this July.
	The two finished up a phone call just minutes ago.
	The Kremlin also says they agreed to work together for diplomatic progress on North Korea and to step up U.S.-Russian diplomatic efforts on Syria.
	Now, there are a couple things we might want to discuss and or listen to regarding there are a couple things we might want to discuss and or Yeah.
	The only clip I have, you can take it or leave it, because I'm sure you'd...
	Watch more than I did.
	Unfortunately, my clip is four minutes long.
	It is the entire Comey explanation for what happened from beginning to telling Feinstein to shut up so he can finish.
	To end, and I think it takes care of everything, every question you have about this whole event, and how he feels about it.
	None of this stuff's cut out, like, ugh, I was sick to my stomach, and all that kind of stuff.
	I think this is what no agenda is for.
	This is the things that we can do that mainstream corporate media can't do, is just take the time to listen to something.
	We listened to things this long earlier in the show, so it's okay.
	So this would be the clip, I think, is the definitive clip of his test.
	I mean, he talked about a million things.
	I'm sure you have little clips of it.
	But this is the most important clip in context.
	October 27th, the investigative team that had finished the investigation in July, focused on Secretary Clinton's emails, asked to meet with me.
	So I met with them that morning, late morning, in my conference room.
	And they laid out for me...
	What they could see from the metadata on this fellow Anthony Weiner's laptop that had been seized in an unrelated case, what they could see from the metadata was that there were thousands of Secretary Clinton's emails on that device, including What they thought might be the missing emails from her first three months as Secretary of State.
	We never found any emails from her first three months.
	She was using a Verizon Blackberry then, and that's obviously very important, because if there was evidence that she was acting with bad intent, that's where it would be in the first three months.
	But they weren't there.
	Wow, that's interesting.
	I just realized.
	Yeah, I found that interesting too.
	The BlackBerry definitely has a server component.
	It's tied down to it.
	You know, the BlackBerry itself needs the server.
	Yep.
	Unless you've configured an IMAP email, but I don't think that happens.
	Maybe, you don't know, maybe they didn't use a BlackBerry server, but clearly that's something interesting that no longer comes up.
	Can I just finish my answer, Senator?
	Yeah, please.
	And so they came in and said, we can see thousands of emails from the Clinton email domain, including many, many, many from the Verizon Clinton domain, BlackBerry domain.
	They said, we think we've got to get a...
	Ah, so what he's saying there is that she was using a BlackBerry on Verizon.
	Which means there is most definitely, or there was a copy somewhere, because, yeah, it's just how it works.
	Clinton domain, BlackBerry domain, they said, we think we've got to get a search warrant to go get these.
	And the Department of Justice agreed we had to go get a search warrant.
	So I agreed.
	I authorized them to seek a search warrant, and then I faced a choice.
	And I've lived my entire career by the tradition that if you can possibly avoid it, you avoid any action in the run-up to an election that might have an impact, whether it's a dog-catcher election or President of the United States.
	Dog catchers are elected?
	I bet you there is a dog catcher election somewhere.
	I'm running.
	I'm running for it.
	You should ask Jay if she wants to run for a dog catcher.
	Whether it's a dog catcher election or President of the United States.
	But I sat there that morning and I could not see a door labeled no action here.
	I could see two doors and they were both actions.
	One was labeled speak, the other was labeled conceal.
	Because here's how I thought about it.
	Speak or conceal, I like that.
	I'm going to talk you into this, but I want you to know my thinking.
	Having repeatedly told this Congress, we are done and there's nothing there.
	There's no case there.
	There's no case there.
	To restart in a hugely significant way, potentially finding the emails that would reflect on her intent from the beginning and not speak about it would require an act of concealment, in my view.
	And so I stared at speak and conceal.
	Speak would be really bad.
	There's an election in 11 days.
	Lordy, that would be really bad.
	Did he just say, Lordy?
	Yeah.
	Hey, that's cultural appropriation of the black American.
	Lordy!
	And not speak about it would require an act of concealment, in my view.
	And so I stared at speak and conceal.
	Speak would be really bad.
	There's an election in 11 days.
	Lordy, that would be really bad.
	Concealing, in my view, would be catastrophic.
	Not just to the FBI, but well beyond.
	And honestly, as between really bad and catastrophic...
	I said to my team, we've got to walk into the world of really bad.
	I've got to tell Congress that we're restarting this.
	Not in some frivolous way, in a hugely significant way.
	And the team also told me, we cannot finish this work before the election.
	And then they worked night after night after night, and they found thousands of new emails.
	They found classified information on Anthony Weiner.
	Somehow, her emails are being forwarded to Anthony Weiner, including classified information by her assistant, Huma Abedin.
	And so they found thousands of new emails and then called me the Saturday night before the election and said, thanks to the wizardry of our technology.
	The wizardry of our technology.
	Right there.
	That's the money shot.
	The wizardry of our technology, please.
	Saturday night before the election.
	And said, thanks to the wizardry of our technology, we've only had to...
	Hey, a Unix joke.
	Yeah, good one too.
	Glad you liked it.
	Found thousands of new emails and then called me the Saturday night before the election and said, thanks to the wizardry of our technology, we've only had to personally read 6,000.
	We think we can finish tomorrow morning, Sunday.
	And so I met with them.
	And they said, we found a lot of new stuff.
	We did not find anything that changes our view of her intent.
	So we're in the same place we were in July.
	It hasn't changed our view.
	And I asked them lots of questions.
	And I said, okay, if that's where you are, then I also have to tell Congress that we're done.
	Look, this is terrible.
	It makes me mildly nauseous to think that we might have had some impact on the election.
	Now, that was an interesting...
	I know this is the quote that everyone was playing.
	But the choice of words is interesting.
	Mildly nauseous.
	Yeah.
	So that's microaggression.
	A little bit.
	I'm not violently ill because I feel horrible that this might have happened because of me.
	No, I just feel mildly nauseous because it's Hillary.
	That's how I hear it.
	I think that's how it is.
	That's a reasonable interpretation.
	It's terrible.
	It makes me mildly nauseous to think that we might have had some impact on the election.
	But honestly, it wouldn't change the decision.
	Everybody who disagrees with me has to come back to October 28th with me and stare at this and tell me what you would do.
	Would you speak or would you conceal?
	And I could be wrong, but we honestly made a decision between those two choices that even in hindsight, and this has been one of the world's most painful experiences, I would make the same decision.
	I would not conceal that on October 28th from the Congress.
	And I sent the letter to Congress.
	By the way, people forget this.
	I didn't make a public announcement.
	I sent a private letter to the chairs and the rankings of the oversight committees.
	I know it's a distinction without a difference in the world of leaks, but it was very important that I tell them instead of concealing.
	And reasonable people can disagree, but that's the reason I made that choice.
	And it was a hard choice.
	I still believe in retrospect the right choice, as painful as this has been.
	Speak or conceal.
	That's interesting by itself.
	The opposite of speak is not conceal.
	No.
	That was his choice.
	Interesting term, which he repeated ad nauseum.
	Speak or conceal.
	Save or create.
	It's along those lines.
	Well, I only have one clip that I'll add to this because there was a follow-up question about the emails from...
	And we, of course, guessed this correctly.
	We knew exactly what was happening.
	And it was a guess.
	It's like, oh, yeah, of course, I know what happened.
	But like, hey, put this on your laptop so you can print it out.
	Or keep it or whatever so I can transfer it somewhere else.
	And...
	It's not a shocker.
	Well, there's a number of things wrong with this.
	If you're working with classified information, you should know that that's not okay.
	And Comey gives her a pass, but then he says something else interesting that one of our producers caught.
	Was there classified information on former Congressman Wiener's computer?
	Yes.
	Who sent it to him?
	His then-spouse, Huma Abedin.
	Then-spouse?
	As far as I know, they're still married.
	I think they are still married.
	Yeah.
	Maybe?
	Yeah.
	She announced she was going to get a divorce and then they didn't.
	You might be right, but I think I want to verify this at the book of knowledge level.
	Okay.
	You verify and I'll continue.
	And a very bad idea, of course, for them to get divorced because then he could be compelled to testify against her.
	So she should hang on to that ring.
	Yeah.
	Because Wiener, he's nuts.
	Yeah, he's nuts.
	Who knows what he'll do?
	I would love to see it, because that would be more fireworks for the show.
	His then-spouse, Huma Abedin, appears to have had a regular practice of forwarding emails to him, for him, I think, to print out for her.
	He got divorced.
	Who says?
	The Book of Knowledge.
	Yeah, what, Wikipedia?
	They were married to 2016.
	Well, let me finish Comey.
	Putting emails to him for him, I think, to print out for her so she could then deliver them to the Secretary of State.
	Did former Congressman Weiner read the classified material?
	I don't think so.
	I don't think we've been able to interview him because he has pending criminal problems of other sorts, but my understanding is that his role would be to print them out as a matter of convenience.
	If he did read them, would he have committed a crime?
	Potentially.
	Would his spouse have committed a crime?
	Again, potentially.
	It would depend upon a number of things.
	Is there an investigation with respect to the two of them?
	There was.
	We completed it.
	Why did you conclude neither of them committed a crime?
	Because with respect to Ms.
	Abbott in particular, we didn't have any indication that she had a sense that what she was doing was in violation of the law.
	Couldn't prove any sort of criminal intent.
	That's pretty liberal.
	That's pretty liberal on his end.
	Incredibly liberal.
	And the intent is not the issue when it comes to classified documents.
	It's like that poor schlub in the Navy who took a picture of himself, a selfie inside a submarine.
	He didn't have any intent to spy on the Navy and they threw him in the slammer.
	Yeah.
	Now here it says, in August 2016, Abedin announced that she was separating from Wiener, doing his continued sexting.
	It doesn't say, in the text, it doesn't say they're actually divorced.
	It just shows their time of being married.
	Maybe you're right.
	I think you're probably right.
	I was looking through the clips myself, and I recall that first it was, okay, we're going to divorce, and then later it was like, ah, we're really going to try, we're going to keep it together.
	Well, whatever.
	But that's Hillary.
	It was like, you know, pfft.
	Do you think Bill and Hillary would ever get divorced?
	No, for the same reasons.
	Of course, they don't trust each other.
	No.
	I got some signs of the pending Armageddon.
	Oh.
	Yeah, and this was sent to us by a producer who clipped, and this really should be your beat, depression signs in Mountain View, California.
	No.
	Yes, Mountain View, California.
	This, of course, is the center of Silicon Valley.
	And this is mainly about rents, but I just thought it was interesting.
	We have a couple of clips here.
	We can listen to how bad things really are as the apocalypse is upon us.
	Mountain View, California is home to hundreds of technology firms, from NASA's supercomputing division to tech giant Google, which alone employs 20,000 people here.
	The city's unemployment rate is 2.5%, half the national average.
	And the median household income tops $100,000 a year.
	But there are perils to this prosperity, says Mountain View Mayor Pat Showater.
	So many people have come here that the rents, just because of supply and demand, have gone through the roof.
	The median rent for an apartment or house is $4,390 a month, a 54% jump since 2012.
	It doesn't matter whether you make $100,000 or not.
	You haven't planned for a 54% rent increase.
	And it's caused a lot of people to be displaced.
	A small but growing number of the city's 80,000 residents are now living in recreational vehicles, vans, and cars, like these on the street next to a park.
	This is my home, and I'm happy here.
	So this is what's happening to the citizens who are not in the wizardry of technology.
	For other displaced residents who choose to stay in Mountain View, even an RV is too expensive.
	Dwayne Goldstein makes $30,000 a year as a pathology lab technician, but he lived in this rented minivan for two months.
	It was retrofitted with a mattress and window curtains.
	Yeah, that's what I call it, a retrofit.
	Hey, baby, want to check out my minivan?
	I got it retrofitted with a mattress and curtains.
	A lot of these guys at Google, for example, they live, and they're allowed to do this because Google owns the land.
	They have these RVs and these vans, and they park them in the parking lot permanently, like a little housing place.
	Really?
	Yes.
	And then since Google has a gym and all these amenities, they park there and then they go into the Google gym and work out a little bit and they use the shower and shave and they freshen up inside the Google office.
	I think the company encourages this.
	Oh, of course they do.
	You're always on site.
	You've got nothing else to do.
	You're not going to enjoy yourself in the van so you're just going to sit at the office and work all night.
	And take part in the community of Google.
	It's very analogous to my visit to Bonaire once.
	In Bonaire, they still have standing...
	Sorry?
	Where's Bonaire?
	Bonaire is the Dutch Antilles.
	It's right off the coast of Venezuela.
	Yeah.
	Lex lives there, or has a house there.
	I've done the show from there, kind of.
	It was a horrible internet, if you recall.
	Bonaire still has standing, left in place as a monument now, these slave huts, which are very, very small.
	I mean, they're about four, maybe four and a half feet high, but they had six...
	It's like the Cludio there you got.
	The Cludio, exactly.
	No, the Cludio is actually about twice the size of one of those huts.
	Not in height, but in length.
	That's what it is.
	It's slavery.
	Go live there in your little hut.
	Be ready for when I call you.
	And enjoy it.
	You got your cell phone.
	It was retrofitted with a mattress and window curtains.
	He says it was cheaper and had more privacy than the boarding house where he'd lived before.
	$200 a week for a bunk bed in a room with five other bunk beds.
	Wow.
	He saved money, but it wasn't easy.
	I really had to sit down and be honest with myself and say, could I get up every day and take the necessary...
	You know, discipline to not eat after a certain hour.
	You know, make sure that I charge my devices every evening.
	Get up in time to, if I need to move the van because of parking tickets and stuff, do that.
	On top of the everyday rigors of, you know, getting dressed and being presentable for my employment.
	To keep himself clean and presentable for $35 a month, Goldstein joined a 24-hour gym with showers.
	It's usually cold in the evening times when I go to the gym or when I come in, so I keep my sweaters.
	This is my laundry, which I'll take to the laundromat once a week.
	We're in depression already, John.
	At Google, you have the gym, so you don't need that huge expense of $35 a month, which seems actually low to me.
	They have free food.
	They have these cafeterias.
	There's five or six, seven of them, which are dynamite.
	I've eaten at one of them.
	And they're just fantastic.
	And they have, you know, you get breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
	I guess you can get dinner.
	So you don't even have to worry.
	So you don't need a kitchen.
	Nice.
	If you're parked in the lot there and you're living in a van and you work at Google and you shower there and you eat there and you do the events there.
	They have a lot of events.
	Yeah.
	And yeah, it's dynamite.
	Well, this whole culture, this whole Silicon Valley culture, and this is...
	I have another report here.
	What was that from?
	The Denver Post.
	The hipsters...
	You know, they eat such eclectic foods and have big, you know, big fads that is driving up the cost, at least according to this article.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's driving the cost of avocado.
	Avocado is...
	It wouldn't surprise me.
	And unicorn toast.
	This is a new one.
	This is apparently where the kids are eating.
	Unicorn toast features bread topped with cream cheese and various food colors or superfood powders swirled in.
	My God.
	That must be delicious.
	Cream cheese prices have risen 31% over the past year.
	Huh, I didn't know cream cheese was suddenly a big thing.
	Well, we had identified toast as another depression food.
	Oh yes, toast.
	Toast, toast.
	So that is the unicorn toast.
	Last piece here from PBS. A lot of people are blaming the high cost of housing on the tech companies and on the tech workers.
	Yeah, you have all these high paid workers coming into the area.
	People or landlords know they can charge more for rent.
	Yeah, I mean it ends up becoming totally unsustainable and intractable for people who don't have the sort of resources that these tech workers have.
	So I think they're perfectly justified in blaming us.
	As the largest employer in Mountain View, Google recognizes its high salaries have contributed to an inflated housing market.
	Rebecca Prozan is a public policy manager at the company's San Francisco office.
	Obviously, our footprint creates pressure, creates pressure on housing and transportation, but that pressure isn't just tech, it's not just Google.
	It is all the industries that are creating the economy of the Bay Area.
	So how will that end?
	It ends, it's a cycle.
	We've had this before.
	We've seen it before.
	It happened with the CD-ROM phenomenon.
	It happened in the dot-com.
	It's happened before that.
	It happens.
	And it'll collapse again, but it's still kind of a gold rush mentality out here.
	And it just comes, it cycles.
	It goes through a cycle.
	It started, I guess, in 1849.
	And it just keeps doing it.
	With the gold rush, yeah.
	I have an offbeat clip.
	All right.
	This is almost an Ask Adam.
	Almost.
	We have a jingle, Almost Ask Adam.
	This is a, I got this from the, off the television, it is an infomercial for a stupid vacuum cup that you can buy.
	A what?
	A vacuum cup?
	You know, it's like a mug that's got a vacuum in it so it keeps things warm or hot.
	Or cold.
	And it's got a little gotcha in here.
	I want you to explain it to me.
	This is a Rocky Mountain Tumbler.
	Okay.
	Rocky Mountain Tumbler keeps cold drinks colder up to 24 hours and hot drinks hotter for up to 12 hours.
	Order now and get the Rocky Mountain Tumbler for just $19.99 and we'll even give you free shipping.
	Plus, every order today gets a second Rocky Mountain Tumbler free.
	Just pay a separate fee.
	Wait a minute.
	Just pay a separate fee?
	Now, how is something free if you have to pay a separate fee?
	Shipping is already free, so we know shipping is free, so there can't be extra shipping.
	So it's free if you pay a separate fee.
	Where is the FTC? This is an out-and-out scam.
	They said it was free.
	That is a scam.
	Just pay for it.
	Well, that's like, it's free as long as you pay shipping and handling.
	Yes, but this has already got free shipping.
	Well, it's a scam, I tell you.
	It's the fee.
	It's the small fee.
	So it must be the handling fee.
	I'm sure there was a little asterisk, an ass tick.
	Three.
	I have three clips for you.
	Okay.
	Three clips for you.
	The first one is for both of us.
	A warning from the Transportation Security Administration.
	In this half an hour, and that is new concerns of terrorist attacks here at home.
	According to an NBC News report, the Transportation Security Administration is warning truck rental agencies to remain vigilant, protecting their vehicles from theft.
	The message was reportedly sent to law enforcement agencies across the country on Tuesday this week.
	The stark warning comes after a spree of truck ramming assaults in Europe and in Israel, including last year's Bastille Day terror attack that killed 87 people in Nice.
	Outstanding.
	There you go.
	It's coming here, people.
	It's coming here.
	Truck killings.
	Just wait for it.
	Truck killings, yeah.
	I have two clips about the American Health Care Act.
	I'm sorry.
	Even I get it confused.
	Trump Care.
	Let's just call it that.
	Apparently, a new version is going to be introduced today.
	I have some thoughts about it.
	Of course, I haven't seen it.
	Oh, well.
	But I think it's a fiasco for a reason.
	Congressman Connolly kind of alluded to it in a roundabout way in this clip.
	When you say that, you see if this current effort fails and you see a fallback to a single-payer system, who pushes that?
	Is this in this Congress?
	They, in fact, succeed in repealing Obamacare.
	Then sooner or later, when Democrats come back into power, our only fallback is going to be a single-payer system.
	We tried this.
	We tried to work with the insurance companies.
	We tried to make sure it was predicated on the private insurance system, and that did not work.
	And so the way I read that is all of this is intended to fail and come around to a single-payer system.
	And I think that's probably what the intent is.
	I think that's what Trump's intent is.
	Well, you know, this would make nothing but sense.
	Of course, I'm an advocate of single-payer, and I know this horror was finally coming.
	No, I'm around, too.
	Not that I think it's the right solution.
	No, you don't like it, but you can see that there's no other...
	It's the only way to go right now.
	It's the only way to go.
	Yeah, everything's been...
	Everyone's been painted into a corner.
	And now you're stuck with this, which is already a proven system.
	It's Medicare.
	Medicare for everybody.
	Which is universal Medicare.
	They have a lot of names for it.
	It works.
	It will stop some of the problems that we're seeing.
	I would have to say, if this was a giant scheme, because we know that Trump originally was a single-payer guy.
	This was brought up in the early campaigning.
	When he was saying, well, he never used to be a conservative.
	In fact, he was a big believer in single payer.
	I remember this very clearly, and you can look it up.
	I'm sure you can find documents that say this.
	And the whole thing may be a giant scam because we really can't bring ourselves because of the nasty...
	The way the conservatives handle the healthcare thing.
	And in a nutshell, it goes like this.
	Oh, well, if you can't manage to buy insurance or get on one of these programs and you get sick, why is the taxpayers picking this up?
	You should be dying in the street, bleeding and dying in the street, you scum, which is To boil it down is what the conservative argument is.
	And it's not a pleasant argument, but you can't seem to get them off of it.
	Oh, we have the best health care in the world.
	That's not true.
	You look at any stats about length of life, how many babies die and all the rest of it.
	We're like down.
	We're like a number nine and something's number 11.
	We suck.
	We're not even close to being at the top of any of this.
	And all the crazy, you know, tort law problems that we have where people, you know, they get a sponge in their operation.
	They don't get it out of there.
	And then they sew the person up and then they're sued for millions.
	The whole thing is a mess.
	And the only way out is single payer.
	It's just the way it is.
	We've painted ourself into a corner.
	We've got no other way of going.
	And it's never going to help with the drug deals.
	They've These ridiculous, jacked-up prices for drugs, that's what's caused all these increases in costs.
	Nice one.
	Kind of.
	I will go from this to...
	Well, I'm going to give you another pet peeve in a moment.
	But first, Cory Booker's response to this horrible bill...
	Which is just beautiful.
	But just for the moral urgency of this moment, the craven bill that I see coming to vote tomorrow is just cruel and just wrong to tens of millions of Americans, Republicans, Democrats, Independents, people who deserve more from a nation this wealthy, this rich.
	They deserve better.
	So screw the politics.
	This is about people.
	This is about what's morally right.
	This is about what we stand for.
	And this is a president who has lied to people.
	Folks in red states and red counties who passionately want to keep their healthcare, who were promised better healthcare, more access, something better than the Affordable Care Act.
	Well, this is clearly not just worse.
	It's a death knell.
	I don't mean to be melodramatic about this, but I've seen this when people have to wait to get their healthcare until the emergency room.
	This will cost American lives if it ever becomes law.
	This will mean death, pain, and suffering to people's families.
	So I'm not interested in the politics.
	This is something that my colleagues, people I respect across the aisle, they just can't support.
	For God's sake, for the sake of our country and what we stand for, they cannot pass this piece of legislation.
	We're all going to die!
	Mmm.
	Mm-hmm.
	Mmm.
	Bye.
	Bye.
	And something the president promised, oh, I'm sorry, is considering that you will be very happy with, although I'm not sure if it works that way in the state of California.
	So I'll tell you what was very interesting.
	The truckers came to see me, and I have very good relationships with the truckers.
	I have one friend who's a big trucker, and he's like, he said, I've never said anything like it.
	What is this?
	He's a mother trucker.
	Thank you.
	I have one friend who's a mother trucker.
	Trucker.
	He's like, he said, I've never said anything like it.
	You know, with the roads, you've heard the story.
	With the roads and his trucks are all being destroyed and he's going to start buying cheap equipment now.
	The roads are in bad shape.
	But I've had the truckers come to see me.
	That if we earmarked money toward the highways, that they would not mind a tax.
	You know, gas tax or some form of tax.
	Okay.
	So I haven't made a commitment.
	But they would like it because they say the roads are in such bad condition.
	We can't allow that.
	Can I report that you're open to raising the gas tax?
	Would that be fair?
	The truckers have said that they want me to do something as long as that money is earmarked to highways.
	You could say that I had that meeting.
	Well, it's something that I would certainly consider because they've asked me to consider it.
	How do you feel about this?
	You hate potholes.
	It's bullcrap.
	Gas tax has always been about this, always been earmarked, but then new guys come in and they steal the money for something else.
	And so the gas tax is bullcrap.
	It's a bullcrap tax.
	It's just more taxing.
	It's nonsense.
	It's crap.
	Thank you for deconstructing that.
	I did a great job of deconstructing.
	And with that, we will wind up today's program.
	Thank you all for participating, for listening.
	It is your podcast after all.
	So remember to support us at Dvorak.org slash NA for Sunday's show.
	Who knows what will happen today?
	Something.
	According to the War Room, the House just voted to repeal Obamacare, whatever that means.
	Yeah.
	Senate.
	Yeah, well that means the Senate will not pass it, exactly.
	Alright.
	I'm looking forward to Sunday's show.
	Who knows what kind of adventures we'll run into, but until then, coming to you from the brand new skyscraper, still need a name for it, Still in downtown Austin, Tejas, we are the capital of the drone star state, FEMA Region 6 on all your government maps.
	I like Cludio.
	Cludio.
	Yeah, the Cludio.
	Coming to you from the Cludio in downtown Austin.
	That sounds pretty good.
	Until Sunday in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	Hello, I'm Adam Curry.
	I know you're Adam Curry.
	I've heard this a million times.
	I'm John C. Dvorak, by the way.
	Adios.
	Until Sunday, as always.
	Adios, mofos!
	I now have in my possession the most current Mastodon block list circulating amongst system administrators. .
	And so there's a number of domains.
	Most of them are silenced.
	Shall I read you a few choice ones?
	Social.au2pub.net.
	Severity, silence.
	Media out loud, yes.
	Reason, it's a free speech zone.
	So we need to silence these people because there's a free speech zone over there.
	We don't want to hear what they have to say.
	Unsafe dot space.
	Reason is an unsafe space.
	I don't think of a sense.
	NoagendaSocial.com.
	Silence.
	So everyone on this who has this list will just silence them.
	And big one has it on the social.
	They've silenced us.
	What do you think the reason is for our being on this list?
	Douchebags.
	Close.
	Alt-right KKK Nazi quadroons.
	I think that's actionable.
	That's alt-right KKK Nazi...
	I don't know, what's a quadroon?
	What's a quadroon?
	Well, a quadroon may be like an octoroon that we're one-fourth black.
	Merriam-Webster says, a person of one-quarter black ancestry.
	Fuck, you're right, John.
	We're one-quarter black, but we're Nazis and KKKs.
	That's what it says.
	What?
	That kind of blew me away.
	And when you say actionable, what do you mean?
	We can sue somebody over there?
	Yes, that's what I mean.
	That would be fun, wouldn't it?
	We'll be guaranteed to be blocked everywhere.
	There are a bunch of lawyers over there.
	I don't care.
	Lawyers.
	Blocked.
	Silence.
	Reason.
	Bunch of lawyers.
	Well, the quadruiting, I think, is a compliment.
	Haiku for slaves.
	Too delicious to believe.
	Can you see that juice?
	We are one people With one destiny We all bleed the same blood.
	We all salute the same flag.
	And we all made by the same God.
	Love, John, I'm the same.
	Love, John, I'm the same.
	Don't want to make America great.
	Love, John, I'm the same.
	Oh, yeah.
	Love, John, I'm the same.
	Love, John, I'm the same.
	Even if the bones must be lifted into the bones.
	Love, John, I'm the same.
	One more time before.
	Love, John, I'm the same.
	Love, John, I'm the same.
	Amen.
	Fist bump.
	Now get out there and whoop Obama's behind.
	Now get out there and whoop it all up there behind us.
	I'm not a constitution.
	Whoop it!
	What?
	That kind of blew me away.
	What?
	That kind of blew me away.
	What?
	What?
	The best podcast in the universe!
	This is a bunch of scumbags!
	Dvorak.org slash N-A Amen.

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