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	You got kittens?
	You got a little kitten outside?
	Meow.
	Wandering around.
	Boom.
	Done.
	Adam Curry.
	John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, April 30th, 2017.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 9025.
	This is No Agenda.
	Watching paint dry in Washington, D.C. so you don't have to.
	And broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet here in the capital of the Grown Star State, Austin Tejas.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley where there's no paint to dry, I'm John C. DeVore.
	It's Crack Vaughn and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Yeah, I watched it.
	Well, I'm sorry to hear that.
	Yeah, but that's not my problem.
	I've had a rough weekend, John.
	Rough weekend.
	How rough was it?
	Very rough.
	You know, we're in the middle of our move here.
	Oh, that's right.
	You're not even at home.
	You're in the trailer.
	No, I actually am at home.
	But you're in a new home.
	You're in a new home?
	No, I'm in the old home because they came in to pack up Friday and they packed up Tina's house on Friday.
	And Monday is when we move.
	So I've been living amongst boxes, which has two very serious side effects or not even a side effect.
	Paper cuts?
	Nope.
	Number one is the dust.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, my God.
	There's so much dust.
	Now, I have the HIPAA filter running 24-7.
	I've got humidifiers.
	And I woke up this morning, and my glands are swollen.
	My ears hurt.
	I'm completely screwed.
	But that's not the worst.
	Oh.
	No.
	No, it's been very emotional.
	Now, the keeper...
	Oh, wait.
	Let's get this straight.
	Why?
	I'm going to tell you.
	So the keeper is a minimalist, which I like.
	Oh, minimalist.
	Yeah, you would like a minimalist, I think.
	Yeah, so we like that.
	And I said, well, you know, we're going to move in together.
	I can certainly get some minimalism going.
	And so I don't have all that much stuff, but I have this one closet which contains just huge crates of stuff that I've been shoving away.
	Oh, that's why she tweeted the pictures.
	Yeah, well, I asked her to tweet the pictures because here's what's going on.
	I will never make a joke about you being an archivist ever again.
	Because I'm an archivist.
	And when I saw the stuff that I've been schlepping around for over a decade, I mean, I'm talking just big bundles of wires.
	I must have 15 mixing boards, compressor limiters.
	You want a USB cable?
	You can't name a USB cable I don't have.
	I've got 17 old laptops.
	I've got...
	Hundreds of USB drives.
	Wow, you have more old laptops than I have.
	I know, and there's really good laptops.
	You know, like the old iBook, the clamshell iBook.
	I've got one of the first.
	Oh, yeah, that's a winner.
	One of the first trans, you know, tranny laptops that goes from a laptop to a tablet.
	Yeah.
	Really like an old one.
	I mean, we're talking 10 years.
	The first iteration of those things.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That was the Microsoft laptop.
	But here's the problem.
	I have real emotional issues throwing stuff out.
	Oh, now I get it.
	So you're pointing the finger at me, who has it completely under control.
	I have thrown out more laptops than I've kept.
	To just make yourself feel better.
	Well, there's a couple things.
	One, I can't be throwing these laptops.
	Who knows?
	They may even contain Bitcoin.
	I don't know what's on them, so I have to figure out a way to destroy them.
	You can't even boot them all up, so I don't know how to get the data off unless I just stick a drill into it.
	No.
	I know exactly what you should do.
	This is what I was hoping to hear.
	Take the hard disk out of each one.
	Mm-hmm.
	Well, you can't take a hard disk out of a Mac.
	There's got to be some way.
	The Mac you can throw out.
	Although that's a very collectible Mac.
	It's one of the worst Macs they ever made.
	You're telling me it's an actual collectible?
	See, now I have even more trouble getting rid of it.
	I think that is a collectible.
	So the other ones are not.
	But...
	If you wanted to, I would pull the hard disks out of every one of them, and then if you'd want to try to recover what's on the hard disk, you can do that with some equipment.
	Wait a minute.
	I have drives that are firewire.
	I don't even own a firewire machine anymore.
	Just drill them then, and toss them.
	See, then there's the other thing.
	Wait, wait.
	Take the laptops without the hard disk and donate them to a local museum.
	Do you think there's a museum that'll take all this crap?
	There's got to be one around the country somewhere.
	I mean, I even have...
	Do you remember the cube?
	The cobalt cube?
	Yeah, I do remember the cobalt cube.
	Yeah, I have the original cobalt cube.
	I've got...
	Why?
	Thank you!
	I'm a hoarder!
	I just have to say it!
	And I took this all...
	Now you feel better, I hope.
	Because of my therapy, I was able to take this all the way back to childhood.
	Oh, your mom threw something out of your favorite toys away.
	No, I think I was lonely.
	You had two sisters.
	Believe me, when you're the eldest and you've got two younger sisters, it's lonely at the top.
	And I think that, you know, just like I had a lot of stuffed animals on my bed, like these are my buddies, my wires and everything.
	John, I was ill.
	I actually kind of got ill just thinking of, what am I doing with, it must be a thousand pounds in weight that I have separated to be either given away, donated, or thrown out.
	Yeah, my wife would routinely, because she liked to clean up.
	Actually, she doesn't like to clean up, but she gets on a jag and she likes to clean up.
	So she'll start cleaning.
	And my daughter's worse.
	I have to be careful with her.
	With the cleaning?
	Because you'll throw good stuff out.
	Oh, no.
	I can see her.
	She looks left.
	She looks right.
	She doesn't see me looking at her.
	Boom!
	In the good stuff goes into the garbage bag.
	What is she doing in your office, man?
	What is she doing in your space?
	She can clean this.
	My daughter in particular can make this office spotless.
	I mean, I actually had the conversation.
	I have a big Yamaha keyboard.
	And Tina's like, what are you going to do with that?
	I said, well, I can't throw this out.
	No, you'd give that away.
	Give that to Salvation Army or put it on the show.
	But wait, well, that's an idea.
	What if Elton John drops by?
	And then he says, oh, Tina, I'd like to play a song for you.
	You've got a keyboard.
	Oh, you threw the keyboard out.
	Oh, sorry.
	No song for you.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	That's projecting the future.
	Yeah.
	Or Bruce Hornsby.
	It could happen.
	Oh, sure.
	Any one of those guys.
	How often have they showed up in the last five years?
	Well, you know, I'm in Austin.
	Oh, yeah.
	The place where nobody knows anything about music.
	But seriously, it was really surprising to me, one, just how much junk I've collected and have been schlepping for 10 years.
	This stuff that is older than 10 years.
	Creative Labs MP3 players.
	Are you kidding me?
	Oh, yeah.
	That's a goner.
	I have experimental stuff in here.
	I'll give you some more advice.
	There's another way you can go.
	There's some stuff you've got that is probably worth something to someone.
	Not much, but I'm sure there's something in there.
	What's not much?
	I think the Cobalt Cube might be interesting for someone to collect.
	I mean, who's a serious collector that has a collection that's neat and organized.
	So you can put a list of stuff you have.
	This will make you feel a lot better.
	You can put a list of stuff you have that you need to get rid of and it'll go to a good home if somebody claims it.
	Otherwise, you're just going to throw it out.
	But you do have artifacts that are actually art.
	Such as?
	What is actually art?
	This is a great way to explain.
	Hey baby, this is actually art.
	We should display this in the living room.
	One of the things I've got is I've got three display cases I got at Ikea.
	They're kind of a box with a glass thing in front of it.
	All three of them are filled with weird looking mice.
	Oh, yeah, I have that for Morse code keys.
	That is okay, because I think Morse code keys are indeed art.
	These handmade keys are beautiful.
	I really enjoy them.
	But that's about the only thing.
	I'm not going to display computer stuff.
	That's lame.
	No, a bunch of mice all tangled up together in a box like that is actually quite interesting as art per se.
	And this coming from you is even more interesting.
	This is your ode.
	You have a collection of mice.
	Ode to the mouse.
	Well, I started noticing an accumulation of mice that I never used.
	You know, the ball mouse.
	Who uses one of those anymore?
	I still have the Microsoft mouse with the metal ball.
	Which is an extreme collectible as far as I'm concerned.
	But who's going to buy these things?
	So I stuffed them in these boxes and hung them on the wall.
	It looks like some sort of art.
	Oh, I'm sure it does.
	It does.
	It looks just like art.
	Another reason why it's two separate homes really works.
	Well, actually that would work at either house.
	It's a very attractive piece.
	You'd be surprised.
	No, I believe you.
	I believe you.
	And so there's that.
	I'm sure that they'd like a little MP3 player from...
	Yeah, Creative Labs.
	Well, here's a cool idea.
	Take that MP3 player, go to one of those tap plastic places, a place where you can get this lucite stuff that you can make a mold, a cube mold, pour this plastic in there.
	Then push the thing down into the plastic before it dries, and then let it solidify into a giant plastic cube with the MP3 player embedded.
	Wow.
	That'll be worth 50 bucks on Etsy.
	It won't be worth anything, but it'll look cool.
	Anyway.
	So, no, it's a period of growth.
	I'm sorry to hear this because of all the grief you've given me, A. But B... Didn't you notice this stuff when you moved from the last place?
	Did I not explain this is a psychological issue that goes back to my childhood?
	Blank out?
	No, I've always been like, oh, I can't throw this out.
	Let me try this.
	So running into the minimalist, she snapped you into realization?
	Is that what happened?
	No.
	I was ready.
	I've just been ready.
	I've been ready to give this up.
	All of a sudden it hit me and I wasn't quite prepared for it.
	It was frightening.
	I mean, I'll live and I'm okay now, but man, it was a big deal.
	And I've felt bad because I've chided you.
	Let me tell you, per square footage, I know I have a denser pile of crap than you do.
	Oh yes, because you don't have as much room to spread out.
	Exactly.
	But I've just been dragging this crap around for decades.
	That's what was so frightening.
	Why am I doing that?
	What is wrong with me?
	And I realize I don't want to let go of the little boy.
	I don't think that's it.
	I don't think that's it at all.
	What I think it is, I think it's a problem with a lot of hoarders.
	Yes.
	Let's just call ourselves archivists.
	With a lot of archivists, you see value...
	In all of this stuff, and you don't like throwing money away.
	You're a cheap tightwad.
	That's what it really amounts to.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	Let me look at this old copy of Lotus Jazz.
	You know, I'll bet you this is worth ten bucks.
	Lotus Jazz?
	Wow!
	Then I could never get Lotus Jazz to work properly on the Mac Plus.
	It just never did the...
	It never dialed...
	There's supposed to be like a dial-in thing, or...
	Because it was the full suite.
	It had...
	That's loads of jazz.
	So you have this stuff you think has value.
	Because I've watched the hoarder show, and it always boils down to this is worth something.
	Why am I throwing money away?
	Why am I throwing something worth something?
	You're right, but on the other hand...
	It's not a little boy anything.
	It's bullcrap.
	You're trying to come up with some romantic reason that you're a cheapskate.
	I'm far from a cheapskate, and you know better than that.
	I'm not a cheapskate.
	Well, I'm not saying that you don't spend money wisely, but you don't throw money away.
	No, but I... You're not a throwaway guy.
	But, John, we're talking about, okay, there's gear, but when you look at the amount of wires...
	Yeah, every wire's worth five bucks.
	You're rich.
	You're a millionaire.
	That's right.
	Go podcasting.
	I'm quitting.
	It's quitting time, everybody.
	All right.
	So that's been my weekend so far.
	No, no, no, no.
	This is good.
	I feel good about it.
	I really do.
	Don't be sorry.
	I'm sorry in a roundabout way, but I'll just say it.
	I apologize for making fun of you as an archivist, but this just proves you are what you accuse others of.
	This just solidifies it.
	Ah, yes, exactly.
	Solidifies it.
	Solidifies it.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, so between all the boxes last night, I of course watched two things.
	I watched the President's speech in Harrisburg, which was...
	I was led to believe it was meant as counter-programming.
	I think it was much smarter.
	It wasn't counter-programming.
	It was on just before the White House Correspondents' Dinner.
	And what C-SPAN did is they...
	Now, just so people who don't know, every year...
	How long has this been going on?
	It's been going on for a while.
	I think it started during the Roosevelt administration, maybe.
	Yeah, and he probably didn't like it.
	But the idea was the White House Correspondents Association, and it's a lot of them.
	There's a lot of guys and gals.
	It's thousands.
	They have a big party, which up until this year, it got progressively more show business-like, and the hashtag was nerdparty.
	It's so cool.
	We got all the cool journalists, and look at Wolf Blitzer.
	He looks good in a tuxedo.
	Oh, and he's sitting with Kim Kardashian.
	It was a complete douchebag fest.
	Yeah, totally douchebaggy with all those Hollywood types.
	Yeah, and the idea is that it's really meant to give out scholarships to journalists and some awards, some cash prizes, some booby prizes.
	And then the president speaks and he's allowed to excoriate the press a little bit with a couple of videos and some funny jokes.
	Obama was very good at it.
	And then they typically have a comedian.
	Reagan was good at it too.
	I don't remember that.
	Then they have a comedian come up and he roasts everybody.
	That's the basic idea.
	I think the model that's most recent is the comedian roasts everybody and then the president comes up after that.
	I think you're right, yeah.
	So this year, the president said, no, I'm not coming.
	Screw you guys.
	And everything, it broke the whole thing.
	It broke the mold.
	It broke everything.
	They didn't have the red carpet.
	I was all ready to, you know, I know you don't want to do it, but I was ready to just do it for myself, just to make Tina laugh.
	I'm like, oh, watch this.
	I'll do the red carpet what everyone's wearing.
	And they didn't show that.
	C-SPAN cut when they were already in and getting started.
	And it was by far the most boring thing I've ever seen in my life.
	Well, I'm going to start a tape.
	Let me rack it up.
	Which tape do you want me to...
	We'll refer to it throughout the show.
	But let's get the first part going.
	I've had this thing running before we had the reboot.
	And I want to just put on Bob Woodward.
	Yeah.
	I just want to put a little bit so we can hear what the pace of the show is like.
	And then throughout the rest of this show, we'll play.
	I'll just cut back to it because it's playing right now as we speak.
	We're just going to cut right in on him.
	And here's what he has to say.
	We heard about document destruction, a massive house cleaning at the Nixon re-election committee, a money trail, an organized, well-funded cover-up.
	Just to have these two guys, Woodward and Bernstein, who both have been CIA assets currently or in the recent past, was laughable.
	Like, why don't you get your bosses up on the stage, people?
	Look, here's your boys.
	You do what they do.
	Clark McGregor, then the Nixon campaign manager, called Ben Bradley the editor of the Washington Post.
	I mean, just when you hear that, the editor of the Washington Post, I'm like, oh, pass the weed.
	I can't handle this.
	It was so boring and so bad.
	And although, of course, the comedian gets rave reviews, I think he bombed quite a bit.
	Well, I got a clip of that, too.
	Give me that.
	We'll cut back to him later.
	Yeah, we'll cut back to him, of course.
	Okay, so I'll just let it play in the background and then we'll cut in and out.
	The comedian wasn't funny.
	Let's start with that.
	I don't know who gave him rave reviews.
	In fact, a couple of clips from the comedian.
	Yeah, you just need to look at the face bag to know about the rave reviews.
	This is one of his jokes, and this is typical of his material.
	Hey, has anyone seen Rick Perry since he became energy secretary?
	I have a feeling he's sitting in a room full of plutonium waiting to become Spider-Man.
	That's just my hunch.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Woo!
	Is this like great material?
	He was nervous.
	He did have one.
	The only funny line is when he opened, he says, welcome to the last White House correspondent.
	The season finale, I think he said.
	Yeah, it was something like that.
	And here's another one of his fabulous...
	I don't think he put much effort into this either.
	And he should have hired some other outside writers, but it doesn't seem that he did.
	Or he even used the Daily Show writers, which maybe is what he did.
	Let's try the second gag.
	Now a lot of people think Steve Bannon is the reason Donald Trump dog whistles to racists.
	Oh yeah, this was funny.
	And that is just not true.
	Ask Steve Bannon.
	Is Steve Bannon here?
	I do not see Steve Bannon.
	I do not see Steve Bannon.
	Not see Steve Bannon.
	One more time.
	Not see Steve Bannon.
	Yeah, that's on their level.
	So saying Nazi Steve Bannon is funny.
	But, you know, I think that the room was sweetened because you could look out there and there wasn't anybody laughing at all.
	There's a few people smiling, very few.
	Well, you know, with the sweetening business, I pay a lot of attention to this.
	There's, when they have the room mics, depending on who's where, you know, things can sound really loud, even though maybe one person just near one of the ambiance microphones.
	Build Magazine, I just point out as an aside, says, this is all bull crap.
	There was no booing of Ivanka Trump at the event.
	And for Build to do that, yeah.
	You know, the thing we debunked on the last episode.
	And, you know, the same thing.
	And maybe there was some room noise that was mic'd near the press pit.
	In this case, you have nothing but the press.
	I'm sure there's all kinds of noises going on.
	But, you know, laughing?
	No, I didn't hear it.
	Only at the end, when he went into, you know, you guys protect the First Amendment.
	This is important.
	God bless America.
	And then everyone's like, oh, standing ovation.
	Yes, we are important.
	We are very important.
	Yeah, we are important.
	Douchebags, what you are.
	We're important.
	Well, the counter program was actually, and it was at the same time, was Samantha Bee's show.
	Oh, I didn't realize she had that.
	Okay, interesting.
	So she did an hour of press correspondence dinner that was at least five times funnier.
	Even though it was just still Trump hate, Trump hate, Trump hate.
	But, I mean, here's an example of one of her jokes, which is just a Trump hate joke that was funny to this audience.
	I found it to be slightly annoying.
	I don't like these kind of...
	You're ridiculing people for their appearance, but this is Samantha Bee's orangutan joke.
	POTUS has convinced 88% of his fans that you're an enemy of the people.
	You basically get paid to stand in a cage while a geriatric orangutan and his pet mob scream at you.
	It's like a reverse zoo.
	Yeah, I don't like that either.
	We do it a lot, of course, personally, but we do that as television executives, not as human beings.
	Now, the thing that started off with the Samantha Bee show, which was, again, It started off with a fake press conference that was technically quite funny.
	Although, again, it was a hate thing.
	Then it got preachy.
	The problem with Samantha Bee's thing is at this event, her counter-programming, which is, again, a lot better than the correspondence dinner, was...
	I'll tell you what.
	I'm still playing this Woodward clip.
	Can you see what he's saying now?
	Do you have the patch cable in?
	Yeah, I got it.
	It should go right to you.
	Maybe ever.
	Oh.
	No.
	What?
	More?
	Report it.
	They knocked on doors late at night and telephoned from the lobby.
	They hounded.
	Yeah, no, he's still going, John.
	Yeah, okay.
	It took him a long time.
	I saw there were some shots.
	I didn't take pictures of the screen, but there were a couple of shots of people dead asleep.
	Now get back to the fake press conference.
	Okay, here's the fake press conference.
	And I thought this was, this is the way it started off.
	And so they do this fake press conference.
	I think they make some good points because everybody at the press conference, this is an actress that's on a lot of sitcoms who's pretending to be the press secretary.
	They're not doing a mockery of Sean Hannity or Sean Spicer.
	Sweaty Sean.
	So wait, Sean.
	And it's actually got some, it's got a couple of funny points.
	Over here.
	Yes.
	Yeah, hi, Ed Bauer, the bold-faced Red Fawn email alert for America's uncles.
	Is tonight's special going to be like every episode of Full Frontal where Sam just talks about vaginas for a half hour?
	No, Buttercup.
	Tonight she'll be talking about them for a full hour.
	Hey, I'll take a Skype question because I guess that's a thing now.
	Yes, Leonard Skinner, tribute band member.
	Yes, speaking as a fringe nut job survivalist who unaccountably drinks his own urine.
	What's your question?
	No question.
	Is anyone here a reporter?
	In the American U.S. News.
	Yeah, I know you're from Russia today.
	Joan Stern, wakeupsheeplenewsbiz.org.
	Next.
	Okay.
	Last question.
	Opus Dei.
	Lloyd Merkin, Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
	Why hasn't Samantha Bee commented on the allegations that she's a witch?
	Okay, you know what?
	You people are monsters.
	Yes, we have freedom of speech and of the press in this country, and that is a beautiful thing.
	So if a morally bankrupt gang of racist bloggers, anarchists, dominionist radio hosts, and rancid women haters want to call themselves journalists, no one can stop you.
	But you are part of the reason that no one trusts the real press.
	These journalists work day and night to find the truth, write it down, or tell it to a camera, and sometimes they f*** it up, and when they do, they apologize, most of the time.
	They chase down stories, even when the stories put them in danger, and their phone batteries die because of all the Pepes tweeting abuse at them, and you pretend to be them, ruining their reputation, at least among people too stupid to tell the difference.
	What a circle jerk.
	That's pretty funny.
	At least she didn't put podcasters in there.
	Yeah, well, she could have.
	Actually, that would have been funny if she dropped that in there.
	Yeah, well, they missed that.
	They got the peppy part.
	Let me play a couple clips that I have here.
	The one that I thought was...
	I'm going to go back to the other counter-programming.
	Now, before...
	Let me see.
	What's the best way to do this?
	We'll come back to that in a moment.
	Maybe just for a second play three quick little nuggets from the Harrisburg, Pennsylvania counter-programming show.
	Which I thought was pretty good actually.
	For a couple of reasons.
	One is the crowd really knew exactly what they wanted to do.
	You can hear them say CNN sucks.
	CNN sucks.
	Yeah, kind of.
	What was cool is that I wanted to get this sound from cspan.org and you can search within the transcript of each video and I searched for CNN sucks and it was in there.
	They transcribed what the crowd was saying.
	That was pretty good.
	Then we had one of these beautiful only Donald Trump moments.
	Thank you for that sign.
	Blacks for Trump.
	I love that guy.
	Blacks for Trump.
	But then he goes old brother on him.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, man.
	Thank you, man.
	Hey, man.
	Power to you.
	Black power, man.
	That's great.
	That's really cool.
	I appreciate it.
	Yeah, I appreciate it.
	And I know he's sincere, but God comes out really weird, doesn't it?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, one guy.
	And then my favorite is, you know, if you want to be...
	This was just unbelievable to me.
	I was smiling throughout this whole thing.
	It was so funny.
	So, the best thing to do when you want to let someone know that they're doing something wrong is say, I'm not going to say you're doing this.
	I'm not going to say that what you're doing here is wrong.
	So you're telling them, but at the same time you're saying, I'm not going to tell you about that.
	And this was regarding the media's incessant hysteria over the meeting with the Chinese president, Pronoun Xi, who Donald Trump had a meeting in Mar-a-Lago, and the press said, hey!
	You didn't call him a currency manipulator like you said you would do.
	Huh?
	Huh?
	Why didn't you do that?
	So he tried to explain this.
	We have China who is really trying to help us.
	You've seen they've sent back vast amounts of coal coming out of North Korea.
	So let's see what happens.
	And I think it's not exactly the right time to call China a currency manipulator right now.
	Do we agree with that?
	It's just not the right time.
	But they never say that.
	They say, why didn't he do it?
	And he repeated that several times.
	It's just not the right time to call them a currency manipulator.
	He's basically calling him a currency manipulator.
	But, oh, I just don't want to do it right now.
	Very, very interesting from the United States president.
	So this, especially the CNN stuff, and he spent a lot of time on fake news media and excoriating everybody, of course.
	And so before we went to the White House correspondence non-event, They had a nine-person panel on CNN. They're insane over there.
	Do they not see that this doesn't even look good in the shot?
	I know their shots are terrible.
	By the way, I should mention Samantha Bee did a whole segment on CNN targeting Jeff Zucker.
	Oh, good.
	He's just making entertainment.
	He's doing what he was hired to do.
	She had plenty of clips of him saying that, too.
	But Paul Begala?
	Who is this douche?
	I've seen him all the time.
	Yeah, Paul Begala.
	He's a Clinton stooge.
	Oh, well, listen to his response to the president's speech in Harrisburg.
	He needs this affirmation from his base because he's a moral midget and he is a deeply insecure person.
	He's haunted by the fact that the vast majority of Americans, 54%, voted against him.
	He lost to Hillary Clinton in the popular vote by 2.8 million.
	He's haunted by that.
	So he needs, he's a needy little baby.
	What he needs as a president, though, is to unify the country.
	What he needs as a politician is to expand his base.
	Okay, if you want to be small-minded, he needs to expand his base as a politician.
	But as a president, he needs to expand.
	The moment that, when we were watching this, John, you pointed out, when he hollered at that protester, that is not how a president behaves.
	And I went back and looked.
	During the campaign, this one we just finished, President Obama was speaking in North Carolina, and a protester should have interrupted his speech for minutes on end, much longer than Trump.
	And the President of the United States told the crowd, which was rabid pro-Obama, of course, stop.
	Look at this man.
	He said, first, he's older, and he is entitled to our respect.
	Second, we believe in free speech in this country.
	It's an American value.
	He had a shirt or a hat that looked like he was a veteran.
	He said, we owe him thanks for his service.
	He called that crowd to a higher, better place.
	Trump is incapable of doing that.
	And we're going to wait 1,361 days, and he's still going to be the moral midget that you saw in that stand in Harrisburg.
	So, what sticks out here, of course, is the term moral midget.
	That's interesting.
	Well, that's not what sticks out to me.
	Well, the thing that is, of course, a complete false equivalency is some douchebag protester who gets kicked out within two seconds and a veteran who stands up and wants to say something.
	No, no, no.
	If you remember, we both blew this veteran thing.
	That was a scam.
	It was a scam.
	I know, I know.
	Just like all the other ones that Obama's done, the only one that we could find where it was sincerely happening...
	Actually, there was a couple, but they didn't broadcast too many of them, was when he was in his own White House, and this person started saying something, and he goes, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, and Obama goes nuts.
	You're in my house.
	You can't drink my drinks.
	We have all those clips.
	Yeah.
	And that is the, a bunch of them have been made into songs.
	So this old, this Paul character, this guy is really a dreadful, He's a sickening person to be on any of these shows because he's full of crap.
	Yes.
	Of course he is.
	But I think we have...
	But this is on CNN. I mean, CNN, that's all they have on.
	They wonder.
	I think it's...
	Transparent to the viewing public that these guys are insincere phonies.
	I hope so.
	Although I don't think so.
	I think heads were exploding.
	If any Dimension B people saw this Harrisburg speech, I think their head would explode.
	They won't watch it.
	They hate him.
	They won't watch.
	Now, before, as I was watching C-SPAN, they didn't do the red carpet.
	They re-aired something I'd missed on Friday on C-SPAN, and it was a conversation amongst journalists.
	It was the state of the news media.
	On it was Jake Tapper, Katie Turr, and Brian Seltzerwater from CNN. And here is Brian Seltzer talking about how he views the audience and the American public at large.
	So facts are just these little wisps of things in the wind that blow away.
	If that's the case, Brian, why bother correcting facts?
	Well, I don't think we're in a post-fact world or a post-fact-check world or a post-truth world.
	I think we're only in that world if all of us in this room agree to be and if everybody else in every other room agrees to be.
	There are alternative realities, though.
	There are, to put it simply, two alternative realities and then to be more honest about it.
	Many, many alternative realities.
	I find myself thinking about that, but with regards to post-truth, post-fact, it's only if we all allow it to be.
	Just because there's an alternative reality that we might label as the Alex Jones Infowars bubble, just because those folks live with a different set of facts, doesn't mean that we're post-fact as a society.
	Where did this alternate universe story come from?
	Came from the alternate universe.
	Again, no agenda show, way ahead of the pack.
	Yeah, I have these clips, too.
	Now, since you played them, I can't figure out which of the two is which.
	Well, I'm going to play my second one, and let me play my second one here.
	This is Jake Tapper responding to what Seltzerwater said.
	Let me also say, there's been a lot of attention on Trump supporters, and I think that's good, because the media does need to get outside the bubble.
	But they are a minority of the electorate.
	Not even just a minority of the American people or a minority of the world.
	They're a minority of the electorate.
	And not all of them.
	You know, believe President Trump no matter what he says.
	And the reason why facts matter is because when President Trump says something about the U.S. Armada being headed to the Korean Peninsula and it turns out it's not.
	Oh man, he's still on that one.
	That becomes a major issue in South Korea.
	Major issue.
	During their election.
	It's a major issue.
	It's a major issue.
	The next one is my favorite.
	Because when President Trump suggests that vaccines cause autism, despite the fact that the medical community, the respected medical and scientific communities say, that's not true, please don't say that, or else people are going to stop getting their kids immunized.
	That's dangerous, yes.
	And maybe you should talk to Robert Kennedy while you're at it, because he's out there really promoting that message.
	That could literally have a life or death conscience.
	Literally.
	So, facts do matter.
	And it's okay that some people don't believe them.
	18% of the public thinks that they've seen a ghost.
	Good luck.
	Okay.
	Well, that's what you think of your audience, huh?
	Nice, Tapper.
	Very nice.
	Check in with Bob Woodward.
	I'm checking with...
	Yeah, Woodward's still on.
	What's Woodward saying?
	I don't know what he's saying.
	Ben Bradley, the editor of the...
	Oh, my goodness.
	It takes forever, that guy.
	All right.
	What else you got?
	The Katie Turr first of my two clips is because she has a couple of things to say because she's had a lot of experience.
	And I think this adds a little more dimension.
	Then we can talk about what these guys, what conclusions they came to and why they're wrong.
	Supporters, they did not care.
	What we said.
	They did not care.
	They didn't want to hear it.
	They didn't care that Donald Trump was inconsistent.
	They don't care if he builds the wall or not, for the most part.
	They don't care what he does.
	They believe that when he got into office, and they still largely believe this, that he will make the decisions that are best for the country.
	So facts are just...
	These little wisps of things in the wind that blow away.
	If that's the case...
	It's really interesting how I knew that you would be interested in Katie Turr, and you got the clips of her, and I got the clips of Seltzerwater.
	That's interesting.
	Now, Seltzerwater actually made the best point when he says...
	He used a term at the end of that first clip of yours where he says an alternative set of facts.
	Now, if...
	The blondie Trump...
	Kellyanne Conway.
	Kellyanne Conway had said an alternative set of facts instead of alternative facts.
	Right.
	She'd be gold.
	Yeah, she messed it up.
	She messed it up because alternative facts implies, even though it's not what she was trying to say, but it implies that you have a fact that the...
	Water is blue and the alternative effect is it's red.
	As opposed to an alternative set of facts, which has nothing to do with whether the water is blue or red.
	It has to do with a set of facts.
	That is standalone, and your set of facts is different because you maybe have more facts, you may have less facts, but you may have different facts, and different facts is what she's trying to get at.
	Different facts, not different, the same facts said differently.
	Even though we know that what is going on is that in dimension A and dimension B, people are looking at the exact same information and translating it differently.
	It is exactly the same as the gold and white and the blue and black dress.
	It's the same thing.
	Yeah, I think that's the best analogy, to be honest about.
	So we're going to be on these guys.
	Let's go to the Mr.
	Alternative Facts.
	I don't even know why they would put a guy like this on.
	Well, it's MSNBC, so I think that explains it.
	But let's hear what Rob Reiner has to say.
	This man, who is the head of our country, is a pathological liar.
	And everybody around him is lying.
	There's no other way to look at this thing.
	Not only did we know about Michael Flynn, there were a number of articles.
	There was a letter written by the House Oversight Committee.
	It was well known what Michael Flynn was doing.
	He was fired by Barack Obama.
	So that is clear.
	And what E.J. Dionne said...
	Is absolutely true.
	The one thing that they have been successful at so far is obfuscating the biggest single story that is permeating this country right now, and that is the invasion of a foreign power, a hostile foreign power, into our democracy.
	And the Michael Flynn story, aside from the fact that he was taking money from Turkey, from Russia, from places, and clearly that's a criminal behavior, The main part of this story, and something that we haven't even talked about, is why?
	Why, with the White House knowing full well that this is who he was, they still appointed him National Security Advisor, and that goes to the story of why Sally Yates has been kicked off the stage.
	She'll now come back on, and that is she overheard Michael Flynn talking to the Washington Ambassador Kislyak.
	What?
	What?
	About getting rid of the sanctions.
	That's the story, and that's where we have to start thinking about the undermining of our democracy.
	Wow, wow, wow.
	He made the whole Sally Yates thing up.
	Sally Yates was fired.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Let me just bend over.
	Borderliner.
	Yeah, borderliner.
	Close.
	I got something to complete it, though, when you're ready.
	Well, the point is, is that he throws his...
	Sally Yates isn't in the White House.
	No, she's...
	She was never in the White House.
	How did she overhear Michael Flynn's conversation?
	She was fired because she wouldn't abide by the new immigration edicts.
	She said, I'm not doing that.
	And so they fired her.
	She's got nothing to do with Michael Flynn.
	But according to Reiner...
	It has everything to do with Michael Flynn because Michael Flynn is the bad actor.
	He's a Russian agent.
	He's allowed Putin to run things.
	I mean this guy – and they all defer to him because he's a famous director and he has a standing in Hollywood.
	But he's a lunatic.
	Well – This, of course, came up, or sweaty Sean made a very bad showing, and you'll understand why it's a bad showing, and I'm not entirely clear why they're not just saying what the facts are, and I have some facts here for us.
	So here's one of the questions that came up about this.
	General Flynn was a career military officer who maintained a high-level security clearance throughout his career in the military.
	His clearance was last reissued by the Obama administration in 2016 with full knowledge of his activities that occurred in 2015, as you point out.
	So the issue is he was issued a security clearance under the Obama administration in the spring of 2016.
	The trip and transactions that you're referring to occurred in December of 2015.
	So stupidly, stupidly, this guy goes, well, they vetted him, but it was their fault.
	But here I have...
	Let's check in on Woodward.
	Washington Post.
	No, he's still doing it.
	But I have here a letter from Flynn's law firm.
	We've read these letters before.
	This is a statement that was sent to Congress.
	Yes, Congress.
	This is a statement by Robert Kellner, Covington& Burlington LLP, Counsel to General Mike Flynn.
	April 27, 2017.
	You didn't see this anywhere, interestingly enough.
	We respectfully disagree with Representative Cummings' characterization of the April 7, 2017 letter from DIA, that's the Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, to the committee.
	DIA's letter actually confirms in a terse section that has been partially redacted That General Flynn provided information and documents on a thumb drive to the Department of Defense concerning the RT speaking event in Moscow, including documents reflecting that he was using a speaker's bureau for the event, as you pointed out, John.
	General Flynn provided two briefings to the department, one before and one after the event.
	The department was fully aware of the trip, and we urged DIA and the committee to release the full unredacted letter along with the documents that General Flynn provided to DIA during the briefings and details concerning the in-person briefings provided by General Flynn to DIA. This is fake news.
	What these people are saying, and it doesn't matter, we know, it doesn't matter, because Russia still attacked Georgia, we know, these things do not matter.
	Because the truth is in Rob Reiner.
	We know he speaks the truth.
	But this is so far removed from what they're saying.
	RT. Wow, okay.
	RT. Should be arresting everybody who speaks at an RT event through a speakers bureau and told the Defense Intelligence Agency all about it before and after.
	He got debriefed.
	What more do you want?
	Let's see if Woodward's talking about it.
	No, he's not talking about it.
	I play a little more than that.
	McGregor, report it.
	No, I can't.
	It's just like paint.
	It's paint, man.
	So, you know, why doesn't Sweaty Sean say this?
	Hey, look at this.
	Here's this letter.
	Why doesn't he do that?
	This is what confuses me.
	Does he not know?
	I mean, is he an imbecile?
	I mean, don't answer that.
	But does he not know?
	You know, I get kind of a sense that although this could be just nonsense developed by the New York Times and the Washington Post.
	But it's possible that they're a little in disarray or they don't really have their act together.
	And Spicer should...
	He should know what you just did.
	Reading from that letter to Cummings, who's an idiot, is exactly what he should do.
	I don't understand why he can't bring himself to do it.
	I think these guys are out drinking too much.
	Here in Washington, D.C., there's nothing but parties.
	We played a couple of clips a couple of shows ago.
	Nothing but parties going on constantly.
	Yeah.
	This correspondence dinner is another example of it.
	They don't really do their work.
	I still love how everyone's all dressed up like penguins.
	Yeah, now we're elites.
	We're part of the Washington elites.
	I did watch the after show.
	They were showing people like Wolf Blitzer standing around looking for somebody to try to find someone to talk to.
	It's actually kind of embarrassing.
	I don't understand.
	That's got to be one of the most uncomfortable events to go to unless you're with a group.
	And if you're with a group, you just group up.
	You don't even really mix much.
	I don't think there's a lot of mix going on.
	No.
	Anyway, it just reiterated a lot of things once again.
	It was nice.
	Nice to see that they are indeed morons.
	How long have we been doing the show now?
	Almost 10 years now.
	No, I mean today.
	Just for my timing.
	What time did we start?
	That's what I said.
	10 years.
	Anyone in the war room have an idea we've been going for 20 minutes maybe?
	We've been going longer than that.
	We may have gone longer.
	Let's see.
	Look at the clock.
	I can't tell.
	About an hour.
	All right.
	Well, so I think it's time to...
	In that case, let me thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C., what the C stands for.
	I can't keep track of time over here.
	Dvorak!
	In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning to you, ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air.
	Subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there.
	Yes.
	And in the morning to everyone in the war room, noagendastream.com.
	Good to see everybody there.
	They don't know how long we've been going, though.
	I have 69 minutes.
	Everyone's a comedian.
	33 years.
	Hey, thanks for not helping.
	33 years.
	Very funny.
	I do want to thank Dennis Cruz, who brought us the...
	Who brought us the artwork for episode 9 or 2, 4.
	Now, this was an important one.
	This was the Golden Bozos episode.
	And the artwork...
	Now, we had a number of...
	You made a comment, which was very funny, that instead of dropping these small diameter bombs, we should just drop Ferraris on ISIS because it's about the same price.
	And there were a number of people who had...
	Cheaper.
	Yeah, had Ferraris dropping out of...
	And we, for some reason, chose the Chevy.
	The red Chevy.
	We knew it was a Chevy.
	It wasn't like, oh, this is a Ferrari.
	I thought it was actually funny.
	Because it's red.
	I thought it was funny.
	Funny.
	We're low-rent Ferraris that we put out there.
	It was.
	You know they could drop Chevys would really be cheap.
	Yeah.
	Same mass.
	Dump the inventory.
	You got inventory issues at General Motors?
	Get rid of it.
	Drop them on the Afghanis.
	But it was a better composed image.
	It was.
	So we picked it for that reason.
	And a note, because the one we wanted initially was a great piece of art.
	It was a hand with a thumbs down with a forearm in the French flag colors.
	But it was stolen, so don't do that.
	Don't rip it off.
	You can repurpose things to a point if it's really...
	Under fair use, you can make a parody out of something, but you can't just repurpose someone else's joke.
	That was just a straight lift.
	So that's no good.
	Yeah, so please don't do that.
	But we do appreciate all...
	We do image searches and we can be fine.
	And we appreciate all the work that our artists do.
	And we just have to tell you what's going on if you're wondering why your artwork wasn't chosen.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can upload right after the show.
	We always appreciate the work of our artists and thank you very much for your courage.
	And now let's thank some of our executive producers or all of our executive producers and associate executive producers for episode 925.
	Yes, we have a big donor today, Mike Heck, from Parts Unknown, $1,000.
	Whoa.
	And he is going to be knighted later.
	Insta Knight?
	He's an Insta Knight?
	He's an Insta Knight, yeah.
	Beautiful.
	So he sent in a handwritten note in longhand.
	Dear Rowan and Martin, it's taken me several years of listening to finally get off my tight ass and send some value y'all's way.
	Thank you for the superb education in geopolitics, big business, and international culture.
	Both of you bring a unique perspective and insight that blends together, creating infotainment gold.
	My college-age son and I share many moments from the show, and this has strengthened our relationship.
	I still remember driving home from the deer lease one January evening.
	A clip of some Pentagon spokeshole glibly talked of whacking schnozzes, and we both lost it.
	I'm still working on my wife, and I may never feel comfortable recommending it to my daughters.
	Be that as it may, you do an invaluable service for the listeners, and I feel compelled to do what I can to ensure your continued operation.
	Keep on straddling.
	Now, he says, I would like to be 90.
	He's got his name.
	We have that.
	Please play these jingles.
	To the climate gate, Whoopi's saying, get out of my vagina, and Dr.
	Kiki, shut up, it's science.
	And as an addition, he does say his favorite antiquated phrase is worthless as tits on a boar hog.
	I hadn't heard that one, actually.
	I don't like that.
	You have tits on a bull and tits on a this, tits on a that.
	And what was the first one you wanted, John?
	I missed that.
	The first clip?
	I don't have that written down, obviously.
	Oh, To the Climate Gate.
	I got it.
	Here we go.
	To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate.
	Get out of my vagina!
	Shut up already!
	Science!
	You've got karma.
	I fit nicely there in the outro.
	Yeah, it was a classic.
	A classic of sorts.
	I like it.
	Okay.
	Now we have Anton Emmerich in Stockholm, Sweden.
	$430.
	Executive producer.
	Been listening to about three years now from show 800.
	Unfortunately, I've never donated before, so this is long overdue.
	De-douche me, please.
	Yes, sir.
	Whoops, here we go.
	You've been de-douched.
	I'm going to keep this a bit short because I'm about to go to Uppsala for Vorgensmaso so often at some event, I guess.
	What?
	It's celebrated at 4.30, hence the amount.
	Well, 4.30, that's what he gave us.
	I want to get this donation on time.
	I do have a douchebag call-out to Marcus in Uppsala.
	Douchebag!
	He has been listening for at least a year and has never donated.
	I want to thank you both for this, our outstanding product, which has helped me stay sane the last couple of years.
	In Sweden, the discourse has actually become more...
	It has become more sound...
	What?
	What does he say here?
	The discourse has actually become more sound in the last year, but still, wow.
	Ironically, I'm writing this, my two friends, progressive females, are watching RuPaul's Drag Race and started discussing some drag queen coming out as non-binary, as being non-binary something to come out as.
	It's a big event, John.
	It needs to be celebrated.
	How do you come out as non-binary is the question.
	Here's how it goes.
	I want to thank you for coming tonight.
	I want to let you know it's been a long time.
	But I need you to know I'm non-binary.
	And I'm not making fun of it.
	I mean, I presume it's just as big a deal as coming out as gay or a heroin addict.
	I'm not comparing them.
	I'm just saying, well, you've got to tell people that there's something you've been hiding or that you...
	I don't even know what it means.
	Anyway, now I'm starting to ramble.
	I won't be able to listen to this episode live since I hopefully will be way...
	Way fucked up enjoying Valborg.
	Woo!
	But please may I have the following jingles.
	Mac and cheese.
	Can you see the juice?
	Anything from the seed man.
	And we'll throw in a gratuitous karma for him.
	I think that would be good.
	Right?
	You slaves can get used to mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	Cheese macaroni and cheese cheddar melted together.
	Mac and cheese.
	Oh my gosh.
	Can you see that juice?
	For 20 years, they've been growing open-air HIV corn in Texas.
	Protogen.
	You know about pharmacological corn?
	Thanks, AJ. For 20 years.
	Okay.
	Next is Kimberly Singleton.
	Is that right?
	Kimberly, $333.33.
	No, no, no.
	Oh, wait, no, I do have this.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	It's my husband's birthday, May 1st.
	He's already a knight, Sir Pool Man Tim.
	We love listening to your podcast.
	Please give him a happy birthday, and I just send your cash song.
	Song?
	Don't send your cash song?
	Or just send your cash song?
	It's not a song.
	It's sing-songy.
	Thanks for what both you do.
	Thanks, Kim and Tim.
	And this is...
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah?
	Is he on the list?
	Oh, let me check.
	I hadn't checked that.
	Hold on.
	Birthday...
	No, of course not.
	Kimberly?
	Really?
	It's Kimberly to Tim?
	That's interesting.
	I know a Kimberly and Tim here.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	I ran into...
	I remember seeing...
	Over the years, you'll run into this.
	You see a guy who looks like a friend of yours...
	Just like him, but not quite.
	And then his wife comes by.
	She looks like my friend's wife.
	Have you ever noticed this combination of a certain look always attracts another certain look and they end up getting married and it's like a fractal?
	Oh, of course.
	That's how nature works.
	Yeah, people are drawn to each other.
	Makes nothing but sense.
	All right, onward.
	Well, hold on.
	We have to do...
	Oh, yes.
	Give her to her.
	Her do.
	Oh, yes.
	Here we go.
	We just need cash.
	I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
	Just send your cash.
	You've got karma.
	There we go.
	We got Sir Poolman Tim on the list.
	Sir Christopher Dolan, Brookline, Massachusetts.
	That's $333.
	His check goes to the bank, shows up.
	He doesn't make a big fuss.
	Sir James Catman in Denver, Colorado, $300.
	He wrote in, in December 2016, I was knighted Sir James Catman before a complete knee replacement.
	It's still healing.
	But that was the last time I donated, and it's time once again.
	The news continues to be more contrary since the election, and I must depend more on your clips and analysis more than ever.
	You have aided...
	Sorry.
	You've aided your many worldwide listeners more than ever with the world's greatest podcast.
	And if the media wishes to attack your advertisers, as stated in a recent podcast, feel free to send their comments to us.
	I am ready.
	I would welcome the opportunity to send my thoughts of the really bad job the media is doing in distorting all the facts and truth.
	Keep up with the great work.
	I recently ordered a ring and I'll wear it when it arrives.
	I'm ready to defend the truth against the malicious lies that are all too common.
	Out of being Jim Carlson.
	Nice.
	I'm going to give him a karma.
	Thank you for your support.
	You've got karma.
	Okay.
	The Overland Night, I believe?
	Yes, The Overland Night, 295-67.
	Or 255.
	295-67.
	295-67.
	There you go.
	295-67.
	This donation's been overdue.
	My daughter Scarlett was born on 2317, so here's the 20317.
	The show has helped me...
	Keep sane through the sleepless nights and days spent dealing with my Bill Nye-loving friends.
	God.
	All stuck in Dimension B. Oh, no.
	Say it ain't so.
	Could I get out of my vagina?
	Random number.
	We and little girl yay combination.
	I'm also sending $92.50 to request some job karma from my friend Dave.
	He could really use it right now.
	Thanks for all your Courage, Joe Overland.
	Get out of my vagina!
	Yay!
	You've got karma.
	Ciao!
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	All right.
	That is actually a good combination.
	That is a good combo.
	I liked it, too.
	Yeah, I liked it.
	Seth Griffin, 256, 256, Parts Unknown USA. The Overland Knight was in Troy, New York.
	I think I said that.
	On the last show, you asked for more variations on the phrase, are you going to sit there like a blah, blah, blah.
	One that really got me a few years back was, are you going to just...
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Hold on a second.
	You can't just launch into it like that.
	Why?
	You got to do a phrase from the chain.
	There you go.
	I wasn't going to do a segment.
	Oh, but he's...
	Okay.
	Okay.
	One that really got me a few years ago was, are you going to sit there with your teeth in your head?
	Yeah, that's a good one.
	I have not heard it.
	I haven't heard half of these.
	How did we get from with your teeth in your head to with your dick in your hand?
	That's quite a stretch.
	A lot of these are regional, I think.
	That one that you just said last there, I think, is Austin.
	So you have the lump on the log.
	Bump on the log is the one.
	My mom said lump on the log.
	Somebody said bump on the log.
	And then you got a bump on it.
	I think somebody else said bump on the log.
	Anyway, this is We're working on it.
	A boomer business owner I worked for said his dad would say this to motivate him.
	I thought it was humorous.
	For sure.
	I appreciate the news analysis you two provide more than ever.
	Clarity it provides is helping to keep me saying, keep up the good work.
	Yeah.
	Give him a karma.
	Yeah, of course.
	Well, we try very hard.
	Thank you for your support of the work.
	You've got karma.
	You really do.
	Rodney Etten in Tampa, Florida.
	Let's check in on...
	I think we must be departing right now.
	He's knocking on doors late at night.
	He'll be dumb by the time the show's over.
	Rodney Eaton, Tampa, Florida, 213.
	ITM, thank you for all your hard effort and insightful analysis of the greatest podcast in the universe.
	I've reclosed my donation to 2013-13.
	It's been a couple of years since my last donation.
	I'm way overdue.
	I've been listening on and off for three years since my friend Nick punched me in the mouth.
	The only question comment I have for the dynamic duo is about climate change, environmental issues.
	At first it took me a while to understand the angle you were taking with climate change and my MSM programming was strong.
	Strong!
	The machine is powerful.
	Yeah.
	clean energy like solar, wind, hydro, nuclear, et cetera.
	That's not true, including energy and independence.
	What's wrong with that as a goal?
	Carbon tax aside, that's the reason carbon tax.
	Yeah, put that aside as you're missing the point.
	And I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
	Wind and solar heavily subsidized.
	If you put that aside, then let everything stand on its own.
	These are not money makers.
	We did a whole show on the bogus costs.
	I think a polluter's tax might make sense in America.
	And we are huge proponents of nuclear energy.
	Huge.
	Huge.
	I think a polluter's tax might make sense in America.
	What's the pollution?
	Carbon?
	No, carbon dioxide is what they're calling it.
	But they call it carbon pollution now.
	They've moved that needle a little bit.
	Yeah, that's because carbon...
	You can say carbon pollution because carbon implies a subconscious level soot.
	Soot.
	Sucking on soot.
	All right.
	Thoughts, comments, we just gave them to you.
	Keep up the tech segments.
	Please call my friend Nick and I see as a douchebag.
	Douchebag.
	Douchebag.
	For being overdue donating and say hi to my smoking hot wife of almost 20 years, Teresa.
	And karma for everyone.
	Please add my son Evan Eaton to the birthday list.
	Is he on the birthday list?
	Yes, he's on the list.
	He's on the list.
	Here is a...
	That's one, mother.
	I like this.
	You've got karma.
	You've got a good list today.
	A lot of producers came in for this.
	Just to hear that letter that Adam read.
	That's worth the price of admission right there.
	Oregon, $202 in Hong Kong.
	$202.02.
	So it's a palindrome.
	Been douchebagging too long since my last donation and after an amicable Twitter exchange with JCD, I felt guilty and decided to set this right.
	With my last donation, I was also too giddy and forgot to request a de-douching, so I'd like...
	You've been de-douched.
	So I'd like to ask for that now.
	Along with the Reverend Manning, Jiddy Karma to Jiddy.
	Jiddy, was that Manning that said Jiddy?
	No, you're thinking of Sharpton.
	I think, yeah, let me see, getting Jiddy with it.
	Oh man, I don't know what the, Sharpton.
	I think that's Sharpton.
	Yeah, I know it's not.
	Just get Jiddy with it.
	I would give him just a random manning.
	Anyway, to bless his coming nuptials, he's getting married this July.
	Keep up the good, outstanding media deconstruction.
	I don't know what I'd do without y'all.
	Yeah, what would we do?
	Two y'alls on today's show.
	Yes, I'll give him, let me see, what can I do here?
	Yeah, the Sharpton thing.
	It's part of a larger thing.
	Yeah.
	No.
	No, we'll just do this.
	That's a show of money shot!
	Woo, Jesus!
	Woo, Lord!
	Look at that!
	That's a money shot!
	Kenan Conway is a money shot!
	You've got karma.
	They're interchangeable, really.
	They're interchangeable.
	We'll get that jitty thing in an end-of-show clip in the next couple of shows.
	Mark Mallon in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
	$200.
	He'll be our last associate executive producer for today's show.
	Hey guys, just wanted to send some very well-deserved value for value your way in light of last week's poor showing.
	Thursday's show was packed with excellent deconstruction and news.
	Nobody will hear anywhere else and we all owe it to ourselves to make sure it keeps going strong.
	No jingles, just karma exclusively for our artists and our end-of-show mixers.
	You guys rock.
	Oh, that's very nice.
	I'm sure they appreciate it as well.
	We've got some good ones for this show, too.
	You've got karma.
	All right.
	And that's it for our executive producers, associate executive producers.
	I do have a nice PR mention here.
	Jake Lester has been working on this for a while.
	He has completed the Amazon Echo skill for the program.
	And a skill means it's now baked into every Amazon Echo.
	And you can do this, and I think I should demonstrate it.
	You can demonstrate it, but that's not telling me how it works.
	Okay.
	With the Amazon Echo, you can set up what they call skills, so you can use their API, and you can then enable, and it's now enabled for everybody, a no agenda skill.
	So you can ask no agenda to do something.
	And in this case, you have a number of options, and I'd like to demonstrate them.
	Of course, we don't call our...
	Ours is not Alexa.
	We've changed that to Book of Knowledge.
	So you'll hear it a little differently, but you can do this at home.
	So...
	Let's first ask for the live stream.
	So we go book of knowledge.
	Ask no agenda to start the live stream.
	Playing no agenda live.
	Book of knowledge.
	Ask no agenda to start the live stream.
	There you go.
	Stop.
	So that worked pretty good, huh?
	Are you impressed?
	I'm not understanding this correctly.
	Okay.
	Okay, so somebody goes into the API, and the API, which I would think is a universal API, so when I programmed the API, every Alexa machine now all of a sudden has this capability?
	It's kind of like the App Store.
	It has to be approved first.
	Ah, you didn't mention that.
	I'm sorry.
	In fact, I gave permission for him to do this, because they wouldn't do it without permission from us.
	I figured you'd be okay.
	I forged your signature.
	Okay, it's fine.
	So now everyone can do this, but you can also say, book of knowledge.
	So you can do the, wait a minute, back up.
	You're preoccupied with the whiz-bang part of it.
	I'm kind of interested in this methodology where you can do something and then Amazon incorporates it into their system.
	We have talked about this quite extensively.
	Well, no, not really.
	This is a little different than iTunes approving an app.
	Because you still have to load the app.
	Yeah, it is different.
	You're correct.
	Now, there are tons of skills.
	You can ask, you know, you can have an Uber.
	You can order an Uber.
	They've got a skill.
	You just have to say, ask Uber to book me a car.
	This is the whole kind of idea.
	Typically, though, it's rather lame because you have to remember how you speak to the skill.
	Right, so you have to say, ask no agenda or ask Uber or ask whoever.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	If you don't do that, then it fails.
	So that's kind of lame because it takes away the whole natural language part.
	So it would be better if you say, play no agenda stream.
	Yes, but it doesn't work that way.
	You have to activate your application, which is now connected.
	But there's an approval process, and once it's approved, everybody has it.
	Can I do the following demonstration?
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay, Book of Knowledge.
	Ask No Agenda to play the recent show.
	Playing No Agenda show.
	Stop.
	Now, here's the cool one.
	There are a couple more things you can do.
	This one I like a lot.
	Book of Knowledge.
	Ask No Agenda to play the latest episode.
	Skip 33 minutes.
	Ah, shit.
	Dumb thing.
	Stop.
	Idiot.
	Epic fail.
	Book of Knowledge.
	Ask No Agenda to play the most recent episode.
	Skip 33 minutes.
	I hate it.
	It worked earlier.
	Yeah, you don't know that, do you?
	Yeah, I bet you don't.
	Ah, shit.
	Ah!
	Well, it works.
	You just have to know how to talk to it.
	It was cool until I messed up the demo.
	Sorry.
	No VC money for you.
	I've never seen a demo not messed up.
	No VC money for you.
	It does work.
	You can skip ahead.
	I don't know why.
	I must be doing it wrong, which shows you the weakness of not being able to use natural language in your commands.
	Too bad.
	But anyway, Jake, I really appreciate it.
	I'm sure you'll add more little things in there so we'll recognize more phrases like the one I used.
	This is the state of artificial intelligence, by the way.
	If it gives you any idea how far along we are, the Algo is going to do just great for you.
	Anyway, I want to thank everybody who came in as an executive producer or associate executive producer for today's program.
	It's highly appreciated.
	Of course, we'll be thanking more people near the end of the program, $50 and above.
	And everyone else, please do remember, we have another show coming up on Thursday.
	Remember us at dvorak.org.
	Whatever you do, don't try to propagate the formula to that echo thing.
	It won't understand it.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	New.
	World. Order.
	Shut up, Slade.
	Shut up, Slade.
	Ah, you know.
	I got a tip.
	I got an idea.
	They say, ask no agenda what the formula is, and then it plays that jingle.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, he can do all that stuff.
	So he'll come up with a list, and it's just, it's not really artificial intelligence.
	It's not really recognizing what I'm talking about.
	Of course not.
	None of this stuff is.
	It's all bogus.
	Bogative, I tell you.
	Let's check in on Woodward.
	A massive house.
	Oh, geez.
	It just never stops with that guy.
	Well, he goes on forever.
	Yes.
	I thought that was the peak of the whole event.
	It was pretty boring.
	And Bernstein wasn't much better.
	No.
	No, not at all.
	No.
	Now, who's the spook now?
	Is it Bernstein who's now the spook, or is it Woodward?
	Well, by just simple observation, once a spook, always a spook.
	So Woodward's a spook.
	But he...
	I got the impression we did not see much of Bernstein for the last 20 years.
	And Bernstein also wrote that article in his blog, which I'm wondering if it's still up.
	It was done in 1997 where he accused all the networks of being in with the CIA and the whole thing was a scam and there's too many CIA reporters and all the rest, which we've talked about on this show.
	But he keeps seeing Woodward come out with these big tomes, these monstrous books that was written.
	And it's like, you know, with lots of inside information that you can't really just get.
	And so I think he finally said, okay, I give up.
	I'll do what you want.
	I can use the extra money, and what do you want me to do?
	Whatever.
	Yeah, go for it.
	So he's on CNN all the time, bitching about Trump with the same arguments.
	He's an orangutan and an idiot and all that sort of thing, even though he takes it.
	He's a little more intellectual about it.
	He doesn't just call him names.
	No, but that's funny.
	You call him a moral midget.
	These are great things to say.
	Orangutan, orange, very funny.
	The moral midget.
	Yeah.
	We were talking earlier about, during the donation segment, about our stance on climate change.
	And of course, in the news, hot and heavy, the past two weeks has been Bill Nye, the anti-constitutionalist guy, who thinks science is a God-given right by the Constitution.
	So there were protests, big climate protests everywhere over the weekend.
	If you caught any of that, of course, this is because the president says he's considering now pulling out of the Paris Climate Accord.
	Didn't he already pull out?
	No, no.
	In fact, during his speech in Harrisburg, he said, you know, I'm going to make a very important decision in a couple of days here, which to me means he's not pulling out entirely.
	I understood he pulled out.
	But, it was kind of sad for the People's Climate March in Colorado.
	They were all ready to protest, of course, the President and his crazy agenda.
	It snowed, sadly, for their anti-climate change, their global warming march.
	I hate it when that happens.
	Always a winner.
	Now, let's talk about Bill Nye for a second.
	Oh, actually, I hear I have one of our producers went to...
	I forget.
	Now, who did this?
	Where was this protest?
	But they started their own little climate protest chant.
	And the cops show up right away, of course.
	Hey, hey.
	Oh.
	I like that.
	Good tribe, people.
	Good one.
	You know, there's a lot of people making fun of Bill Nye.
	Mostly millennials.
	I guess you were right.
	The millennials were their biggest fans, and now they're all disappointed.
	Well, Snopes had a posting, and I thought we should share, because Snopes, of course, is the fact-check, the fact-base of the interwebs.
	Headline, Snopes says meme making fun of Bill Nye is true, but problematic.
	What does that even mean?
	So the meme that's going around, you've probably seen, is they have a picture of Bill Nye and Dolph Lundgren, the actor who, of course, famously starred in Rocky against Sylvester Stallone.
	And the meme is, that moment you find out that Dolph Lundgren is exponentially more qualified to be called a scientist than Bill Nye is.
	They have there that Bill Nye has a Bachelor of Science in Mechanical Engineering from Cornell.
	However, Dolph Lundgren has a BS in Chemistry from Washington State, a BS in Chemical Engineering from the Royal Institute of Technology Stockholm, a Masters in Chemical Engineering, University of Sydney, and a Fulbright Scholarship recipient from MIT. So, of course, Snopes says, well, the meme is largely accurate.
	Nye did study mechanical engineering at Cornell University, where he graduated with a Bachelor of Science degree.
	And Lundgren, who may be best known as an action movie star, has an impressive educational background.
	The credentials listed in this meme, however, are slightly inaccurate.
	According to a biography on the actor's old website, Lundgren did receive a master's degree in chemical engineering from the University of Sydney and was the recipient of a Fulbright scholarship at MIT. The University of Sydney said in a Facebook post, Lundgren was our only alumnus that we know of who has gone toe-to-toe with Sylvester Stallone.
	However, Lundgren did not receive a Bachelor of Science degree in chemistry from Washington State.
	The school says on his website that Lundgren spent one year studying chemical engineering there as an exchange student, but he didn't graduate.
	So that's the problematic part, you see.
	Oh, no!
	It's problematic, yes.
	It's very problematic.
	I'd like to see the two of them fight.
	Well, here it is.
	That would be great.
	What did they say here?
	Uh...
	So what they really find problematic is that Bill Nye is probably, you know, is the question here if Bill Nye is not qualified to be a scientist?
	Where Snopes kind of steers it toward, if you read through it, is that they say, well, as far as we know, there's no Dolph Lundgren standard for science television show hosts.
	So they're taking it as, oh, he's unqualified to do a science television show.
	That's the angle they're taking on this.
	When will we wake up?
	These guys are worse than RT. On anything that's political, they're pretty good at internet hoaxes.
	I'll give them that.
	If an internet hoax starts up, they usually can find it and track it down.
	They usually take it to its source.
	They do a good job, or they used to.
	I think this thing has become completely politicized.
	WikiLeaks is the same way about climate change.
	It's a known fact.
	You can try to go into some of these pages that talk about climate change.
	Which, again, is part of the giant propaganda scheme, which we have plenty of listeners that have subject to it, and we found that out today in today's donation segment.
	You know, still thinking of carbon dioxide as, you know, as polluting.
	Well, here's the big problem I have with all of this, with Bill Nye specifically.
	And it's the same problem I have with Albert Gore.
	Bill Nye is not just in this...
	Albert.
	Albert, I'll call him Albert.
	Bill Nye is not just in this for the Netflix dollars, and I'm pretty sure he's doing okay.
	But this guy is an actor.
	Sadly, I believe he's doing anything he can to make money, because there's no residuals to speak of from this show in the 90s.
	No, and I think after the show in the 90s, he was scrambling, because he liked doing this show.
	He's a stand-up comic.
	He's not going to make any money from that, because he's not that funny.
	And so he's scrambling and he managed to...
	I think he's done a great job of self-promotion for a guy that's really washed up.
	Well, the problem I have here is the following promotion.
	This is a video that he's done on an outfit called Rattan or Rayton.
	I think it's R-A-Y-T-O and Rayton Solar.
	We can convert sunlight into electricity with a couple of thin silicon wafers in a sandwich.
	A very thin one.
	For decades, to get a thin piece of pure silicon, we had to saw it off a thick piece of pure silicon.
	The saw turns a lot of that silicon into dust.
	This process is fine for making integrated circuit chips for computers or smartphones because the amount of silicon used is so small.
	But for manufacturing big solar panels out in the wide open spaces, it costs a lot to waste a lot of pure silicon.
	The gang at Rayton Solar has come up with a way to chip off an extraordinarily thin...
	Oops, there's your first clue, by the way.
	When he says, the gang at Rayton Solar, that's your first clue something's going on with this.
	An extraordinarily thin piece of pure silicon, not with a saw, but with a subatomic particle accelerator.
	An atom smasher.
	Well, it doesn't smash atoms as such.
	It smashes protons into the atoms of a chunk of silicon.
	Technicians can control the depth to which these particles penetrate with precision, so they can place the particles perfectly.
	And once the particles are perfectly in place, Rayton gives them a nudge using a little bit of heat of just the right magnitude, and a perfect super thin slice of pure silicon is set free.
	A little bit of pure silicon goes a long way.
	So this is a second part that I'm going to play in a moment.
	This is clearly produced, in my mind, by the same people who produces television shows, same type of animation, graphics, editing, etc.
	And the idea behind this Rayton Solar is that they have a particle accelerator, which they use to slice off wafers of silicon, Which are much thinner than any other process, and he claims that it's about a 10 to 1 savings.
	Therefore, they use conventional processes to create solar panels, but they're doing it at a tenth of the cost of the raw materials of the silicon.
	And at the end of the video, we get this.
	We stand on the cusp of a new era in which the paradigm for energy is changing.
	The last similar moment in history was over a hundred years ago when oil became the new main energy source, replacing coal.
	An opportunity to back a disruptive solar technology represents...
	Did you hear what he said?
	Play it again.
	...became the new main energy source, replacing coal.
	An opportunity to back a disruptive solar technology...
	Did you hear?
	An opportunity to back a disruptive solar technology.
	Yes, this is the wind-up and the pitch, ladies and gentlemen.
	Oh, this is a sales pitch.
	...new main energy source, replacing coal...
	An opportunity to back a disruptive solar technology represents a path to enabling change to a renewable future and an investment with very bright economic prospects.
	Join us as we begin the solar age.
	Mr.
	Bill Nye has $5 million worth of shares in this crowdfunding operation.
	He's shilling for his own pocketbook in his own companies.
	Yeah, this has been going on with a couple of companies.
	Small breweries use this.
	There's some law that allows you to sell shares directly.
	Yes.
	It's a crowdfunding system, but...
	Yeah, but it's more than crowdfunding.
	No, I understand.
	I'm going to tell you what it is because I understand it.
	Okay.
	But it's a specific type of filing, so you can actually sell shares directly to people and you have a particular type of filing for that.
	This only came into effect, I think, maybe four or five years ago.
	So it's crowdfunding where you're selling shares, and you're not necessarily beholden to all the same SEC-type regulations of a publicly listed company.
	And there's a lot of regulations for venture capital-backed companies who really push for this law because this is the – or this rule change.
	This is what the seed funding guys like to do.
	For the seed round.
	And so they get to keep a lot more.
	They don't have to disclose all these things.
	They have to disclose some things.
	So it's a change in the law to rip investors off, basically.
	Well, that's the idea.
	Now, let's just put the main thing out there, which is that if you think that your little solar power company here in the United States is going to compete with the Chinese who took over the business and broke everybody, good luck.
	And I'm looking at, how much do you say he has?
	He has a couple million, you think?
	He has $5 million worth of shares.
	It's disclosed on the website.
	Well, he must have the most, because the crowdfunding page for Rayton Solar has been funded at $2.8 million.
	It's closed now.
	The goal was $1.8 million, and it got $2.8 million.
	And so he's probably a majority shareholder.
	Well, he has a piece of the float.
	They don't have to put the whole float out to the people.
	Well, he probably has different kinds of shares, I'm sure.
	Yes, of course he does.
	Of course he does.
	He'll make out like a banner.
	No, not necessarily.
	If one investor buys this bull crap and says, hey, good job everybody on that seed run funding.
	We'll come in now and we'll give you a valuation of $60 million.
	That would be kind of typical.
	Maybe $50 million.
	No, it'll start with a million.
	This is not flying.
	I think you're very optimistic, and I think it's like he's got the starry eyes on this, too, because he's been a scientist for so long, and he wants to be a billionaire.
	He wants to make money in all of this great stuff.
	Everyone's making money around me.
	I know all these guys that, I mean, all these guys making billions are making billions, and I'm not making anything, and so he's come up, joined forces with these guys.
	This is another lark.
	Yeah, because he tried to get in with Albert and the boys, and they said, no, no, you can't be a part of our fund.
	You would have lost his ass on that, too.
	Yeah.
	I mean, Albert's the only guy that's made out.
	But all of this climate change fear-mongering is having an actual, very real effect on people.
	People are becoming...
	Their mental hygiene is at such a low level.
	They're becoming ill, very analogous to people who are addicted to alcohol or drugs and are trying to...
	Like a 12-step program.
	In fact, there is a 12-step program...
	That exists, and I have an NPR report about it, that is now being rolled out around the country of the United States of Gitmo Nation for people who have echo grieving.
	And it's a real thing.
	It's a real issue.
	And here's a report.
	A growing body of research shows climate change is bad, not just for the planet, but for our mental health.
	People who've lived through weather disasters are more prone to depression, suicide, post-traumatic stress.
	Psychologists see more subtle effects too.
	Just thinking about the impact of a shifting climate can make you feel anxious and overwhelmed.
	This group of strangers started coming together last year.
	They range from millennials to grandparents.
	Dick Meyer used to be skeptical about climate change.
	As the group sits in a circle in the living room, he tells why the problem made him emotional.
	And I think I came to the conclusion that it was the loss of the future.
	The future that I had lived, knowing was going to be there, all of a sudden is gone.
	And that is really disorienting.
	At some point you come to a conclusion, if you're paying attention, I think, where you just say, whoa, this is serious.
	And then you suffer for a while.
	You grieve.
	Laura Schmidt was also struggling when the idea for this group first came to her.
	She was an undergrad then, studying species extinction and melting ice caps.
	The human impacts of all that made her feel heartsick and powerless.
	Then Schmidt remembered the 12 steps that self-help groups use for problems like drugs and over-drinking.
	I have been an avid participant in an Al-Anon group, Adult Children of Alcoholics, and I realized that that group can be co-opted.
	Schmidt wrote her own steps, nine of them.
	The first is the standard, admit there's a problem.
	It's a lot about understanding...
	Your power and what you're capable of, but also your limitations as a single human being on this planet.
	Yes, people are anxious.
	We have climate anxiety all over the place.
	Lisa Van Susteren is a Washington, D.C. psychiatrist and climate activist.
	Every single day, we are told about what disasters are just around the corner.
	And this is being processed whether we know it consciously or not.
	In Utah, Ellie Harbertson says she comes to these meetings to mourn the past and reimagine her kids' future.
	We don't do chit-chat.
	We go right to...
	What's on your heart?
	And I cry every week, which is no big thing for me.
	I'm a huge crier.
	But still, feeling like I can do that with almost complete strangers is amazing.
	I'm so happy for the people who listen to this program so they don't have this horrible affliction.
	Clip of the day.
	Oh, thank you so much.
	I felt that might be possible.
	Clip of the day.
	Very disturbing.
	Yes, they're affected, really affected by this.
	And now I look at some friends of mine.
	Are any of us surprised?
	No, this is what happens when you do this.
	And by the way...
	It's abusive towards people.
	I can look out my window right now.
	How are the mudflats doing?
	They're still there.
	Oh, man.
	Has not done anything.
	There was a nice article in this weekend's paper about now they think that the ocean's going to go up 10 feet.
	Next year.
	Pretty soon.
	Any minute.
	10 feet.
	And I'm looking.
	Wait a minute.
	And I will remind newer listeners that I do have the geologic surveys map from the 1800s showing the exact same mudflats that I can see out my window.
	It hasn't gone up an inch.
	And my favorite thing, I should remind people about this too.
	We didn't really play it up that much.
	But there was some events.
	They had one of these climate change meetings and they're talking about, well, how come the Pacific hasn't really moved?
	We haven't seen any real evidence.
	I mean, there's been erosion.
	Yeah, you get a lot of erosion and then a house falls in the water and that's climate change.
	But it's called erosion.
	Yeah.
	But how come there was really no measurable height change?
	And they came up with this cockamamie story that Australia is somehow a giant sponge.
	I don't remember the sponge part.
	Yeah, it was like a sponge.
	And under Australia, they're sucking all this extra water.
	They're sucking in soot.
	Sucking in soot, baby.
	These models don't work.
	These are computer models.
	Computer models are notoriously poorly done.
	There's always a variable you leave out.
	There's something wrong with all of them.
	It should never be relied on.
	No.
	But no, it's okay.
	It's bad.
	It is so bad.
	You know, we were talking about crowdfunding.
	I think there could be a new segment on the show, which I'd like to kick off today with an example, and if we get a jingle and people dig it, then we can turn it into a segment.
	I've noticed, and of course a lot of this has to do with my work within the NoAgendaSocial.com, the Mastodon Open Source Federated Social Network of Gooiness.
	OpenSore.
	OpenSore, yeah.
	I am seeing so many of, and I'll just call them, all of these people who do this are social justice warriors.
	I bump into them because I am being accused of being a consistent abuser of other people and are...
	Our domain there is being blocked by some federated instances because they feel that, you know, I'm an abuser.
	And I haven't even been on the thing for like three days.
	What have you done?
	I don't know, but the admin is abusive, so they block the whole...
	What have you done?
	Nothing.
	I don't know what they're talking about.
	No one's asked me.
	I've never seen these people on the network before, but I see screenshots of them talking about me as I'm a consistent abuser.
	It's not true.
	I've done nothing.
	So all of these social justice warriors who go complaining to their administrators to block noagendasocial.com Have crowdfunding.
	Little GoFundMes or...
	Oh, they got little things just to put up a server?
	No, no, no, no.
	No, not for servers.
	For their lives, John.
	This is where I want...
	This is not so much about the Mastodon social network.
	This is about the social justice warriors on the system.
	And we get a unique look into their lives as all of them in their little profile bio have a link.
	You're talking about people that are looking for some extra cash through GoFundMe and...
	Yeah, not for some extra cash, John.
	This is their lifestyle.
	Let me give you an example.
	This is from Del's Doodles, and she's one of these people who has called me a serial abuser, and I just felt, well, look, she has a GoFundMe campaign.
	Let's see what it says.
	Have you called her out?
	No, I haven't.
	You've got to get some examples of this abuse if they're going to accuse you of this.
	I said, me asking, here apparently, me asking what is going on is considered abuse.
	Yes.
	I said, well, what's going on?
	I'm not aware.
	Oh, and then they block me.
	And then I go to another...
	I log in somewhere else and say, hey, you blocked me, but I want to know what the abuse is.
	And they block me again.
	And now that's being called the abuse.
	But this happened three weeks ago.
	I mean, I don't know why.
	Anyway.
	So all of these kids have little crowdfunding things.
	So here is one of these millennial...
	I'm assuming her gender.
	Jacko quit work last August when we had an advanced royalty payment through from my book, which gave us enough money to live off of for five months.
	Time Jacko planned to spend working on developing his indie game studio to make video games full time.
	Unfortunately, at the same time, he became ill.
	When I eventually managed to convince him to get checked out, he was at the point of fainting when he stood up.
	Turns out he had a bleeding stomach ulcer and his blood count had dropped significantly.
	The doctor wanted him to get a transfusion immediately, but he declined and went for taking strong iron supplements instead.
	It stopped bleeding now, but anyone who's had anemia knows how long it takes to recover from even a little bit of anemia, and his was terrible.
	His blood levels are climbing, but he hasn't had the energy needed to work full-time, so we're behind on our plans.
	He started freelancing for the company he left last year on a part-time basis, but we're still struggling.
	I've put this off as long as I can, but we really need help.
	Jacko still can't work fast enough on his game projects to get stuff out there for sale to support us.
	We're close to being okay, but when you're poor, the world works against you.
	Missed payments mean more bank fees, bouncing fees, people nagging you for money, etc.
	Our car is close to being paid off.
	And if we can clear that monthly payment, every month will be in much more stable place financially.
	There's only five more payments to go on it.
	But the extra monthly payment is just tipping us over the limit every month on our reduced income.
	So if we can clear that and not have to make that payment every month, it'd be a huge help.
	I hate asking.
	I know so many people who are struggling right now and I wish we were in the position where we could help and not ask for it.
	But such is life.
	If you can help us, there are no words for how grateful we'd be.
	So these losers think that their future is in indie game companies and writing haikus on Patreon.
	This is their business model.
	I've identified this.
	We're going to see kids who think that this is how life works.
	Well, we just ask for help.
	First of all, I'm going to excoriate you for being so mean.
	I can see why they don't like you.
	Because maybe this is the new business model.
	Maybe this is the future.
	You don't know that.
	I do.
	This is what I'm identifying.
	They're creating this future of loserdom.
	They will have no life, no future.
	Indie game company.
	Haiku writer.
	Are you kidding me?
	Oh, he can't get his indie game company off the ground.
	How about get something as a job?
	A real job.
	Where are they located, first of all?
	These two...
	It doesn't say here.
	That makes a huge difference.
	And how do we know that any of this is true?
	Is it possible?
	That you could become a fictitious character doing this?
	Of course.
	Of course you could.
	But I don't think so.
	You saw the picture.
	The kids in UT, they don't even put up Patreons anymore.
	Just put signs in the window saying, we're broke.
	Here, give us money to our PayPal.
	And they have a PayPal address.
	And they put it on their window.
	Yes.
	I keep forgetting to put that in the newsletter, but I've got to put that in.
	Yes.
	Why cut out the middleman?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I don't know if it's – I mean I don't like the fact that these are the same people that are blocking you for being abusive when you don't really do anything out of it.
	I've seen your toots.
	Who cares?
	They're not a big deal.
	You're not shaking your fist.
	I mean, mine are more abusive than yours.
	Listen to this.
	So I now have in my possession the most current mastodon block list circulating amongst system administrators.
	And so there's a number of domains.
	Most of them are silenced, which means they'll never show up in the...
	If you're following someone on a different server, you can still follow them, but you'll never show up anywhere in the federated timeline.
	I don't give a crap.
	All of this to me is just a social experiment anyway, but I'd like to give you the reasons that these particular domains...
	There's a list with reasons?
	Yes, sir.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, you've got to send me a copy of that.
	I can put it in the newsletter.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Shall I read you a few choice ones?
	Oh, yeah.
	Especially if ours is on there.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, we have the best entry.
	Social.au2pub.net.
	Severity.
	Silence.
	Media allowed.
	Yes.
	Reason.
	It's a free speech zone.
	It's my favorite.
	So we need to silence these people because there's a free speech zone over there.
	We don't want to hear what they have to say.
	Is this crazy?
	I'm understanding it.
	Okay.
	Then we have unsafe.space reason.
	It is an unsafe space.
	Makes nothing but sense.
	Then we have...
	Here we go.
	Here's us.
	You ready for this?
	Noagendasocial.com.
	Silenced.
	So everyone on this who has this list will just silence them.
	And the big one, Mastodon.social, they've silenced us.
	What do you think the reason is for our being on this list?
	Douchebags.
	Close.
	Get ready for it.
	Alt-right KKK Nazi quadroons.
	That's us.
	Yes, we are categorized.
	I think that's actionable.
	As alt-right, KKK, not...
	I don't know, what's a quadroon?
	What's a quadroon?
	Well, a quadroon may be like an octoroon that we're one-fourth black.
	Let me consult the book of knowledge.
	I don't think they mean that.
	Quadroon definition.
	Where's the definition?
	Definition.
	Okay.
	Quadroon.
	Here we go.
	Quadroon.
	We always like to take Merriam-Webster.
	Here we go.
	Merriam-Webster says, a person of one-quarter black ancestry.
	You're right, John.
	We're one-quarter black, but we're Nazis and KKKs?
	That's what it says.
	And when you say actionable, what do you mean?
	We can sue somebody over this?
	Yes, that's what I mean.
	That would be fun, wouldn't it?
	Yeah.
	We'd be guaranteed to be blocked everywhere.
	There are a bunch of lawyers over there.
	I don't care.
	Lawyers.
	Blocked.
	Silence.
	Reason.
	Bunch of lawyers.
	I just think alt-right, KKK, Nazi quadroons, and I consider us to be a lot of things.
	And by the way, the term these days the kids are using is not free speech zone.
	It's freezed peach zone.
	Ha ha ha.
	As in frozen peach.
	Freezed peach zone.
	But that kind of blew me away.
	Well, the quadroon thing I think is a compliment.
	Yes.
	We're definitely a quarter block.
	For sure.
	For sure.
	Well, that is very disturbing.
	You want to stay with some more disturbing millennial stuff?
	I have some more stuff we can talk about.
	Well, yes.
	Okay.
	Let us talk about, here we go.
	We have, ooh, okay, this is just a little entremant.
	This is something in your neck of the woods.
	It's actually too bad you don't actually have this.
	UC Davis, so that's part of the California system.
	The Zephyr stops in Davis, by the way, on the way to the train museum.
	Well, they're under severe attack.
	Well, attack, I would say.
	Just like, remember when the HPV vaccine came out?
	Which, of course, we know is, you know, really only handles three of the 20-some strains of Yeah, that's a scam.
	It's overpriced.
	It's a huge overpriced scam.
	Remember they were hanging promotional bags on the doors at dorm rooms?
	Remember this?
	No.
	Just to promote it?
	Yeah.
	We had a clip about that several years ago.
	They were doing anything.
	Just promoting, promoting, promoting, promoting.
	We did a lot of work.
	Dude, this is probably...
	Dude!
	This goes back to 2006 probably.
	We were talking about this stuff when it was just starting up.
	So UC Davis is now under attack.
	Well, not attack.
	They made a deal apparently with Plan B. And Plan B is the morning after pill.
	So if you have an accident or some kind of mistake or worse, which we'll talk about in a minute, a new term to learn, then you're in good luck.
	You have good fortune if you're at UC Davis.
	This now famous vending machine is located here at the Activities and Rec Center.
	This is where students work out morning and night, and it's now getting all the buzz for the morning after pill.
	In this quiet UC Davis study lounge, back in the corner, just past those cups of coffee, you'll find contraception for sale in a vending machine.
	Yay!
	Look closely.
	The machine isn't just stocked with condoms, tampons, and pregnancy tests.
	It's selling the morning after pill.
	Up top, the A-row will dispense the Plan B pill for 30 bucks a box.
	For students here, an out-of-the-box idea known as the wellness-to-go machine, drawing more praise than criticism.
	It's easier to take a Plan B than have to tell your parents that you're pregnant.
	It's, like, useful so that you don't have to go to a pharmacy.
	People doubted this project.
	That's exactly why this economics major turned his focus to public health, spending close to two years trying to bring the vending machine here.
	There was an incident where my friends went to the one pharmacy that's open 24-7 in town on a Friday night, and they were all out of emergency contraceptive.
	Partick Singh is suddenly very popular on the UC Davis campus and others across the country.
	Taking calls from students everywhere, asking him to help bring the wellness machine to their schools.
	I want to see this on every college campus.
	Ambitious plans for Plan B on campus.
	Now the backup pill in the back of the study hall even has moms weighing in.
	It encourages responsibility.
	I mean, if you mess up, waiting to see if you get pregnant and have an abortion.
	I love that it encourages responsibility.
	Yeah, that's how kids think, for sure.
	I don't know how the logic is there, but okay.
	So what's the controversy?
	It seems like a good idea to me.
	I thought there's no controversy.
	I thought that the way the millennials were describing it as, you know, hey, it's great.
	You don't have to tell your parents you're pregnant.
	A lot of things like this.
	I don't think that's a millennial phenomenon.
	I think that would be the same with any age group.
	Well, they're targeting the college kids.
	But it comes at the same time a new meme is being launched because, of course, we all hate men.
	And there is now, and this comes from some actual research.
	What is SSRN? Who are those jabronis?
	It's from the Columbia Journal of Gender and Law.
	We have a new term, rape adjacent.
	Rape adjacent, which is the non-consensual condom removal.
	And this is now being played as a thing.
	That men are removing the condom during sex before ejaculation in a non-consensual manner.
	I've not heard of this, but man, now we're really into a whole new ballgame.
	I can see that.
	I can see that becoming a thing that they would give a specific name to and use as another excuse to sue some poor schlub.
	Yeah.
	Well, to up the rape culture and the victimization.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	No, it's...
	And how do you do that without the female partner noticing?
	I have no standing in that area, so I don't know.
	Well, I'm just asking.
	Just think of the logistics here.
	You're going at it, and then you...
	What do you do?
	You pull out and take the thing out and swirl around your head and throw it against the wall and then go back in?
	Yeah, I just don't see how you can do that without...
	It's just that there's something about it that doesn't make sense, personally.
	But you'll see, it's up and coming now.
	It's trending.
	We'll see how far it gets.
	On the...
	Let me see.
	How did I come up with this one on the Instagram?
	There was something about Instagram that was...
	What was it?
	I had this clip from the CEO. Because I was reading something about Instagram.
	And now I don't know exactly what it was I was reading about it.
	But then I caught this...
	Thanks for all the detailed information.
	Yeah, that means...
	Oh, no, I got it.
	I know why.
	I know why.
	Yeah, the reason why is the FTC is up in arms about undeclared endorsements.
	Oh, yeah.
	They should have...
	This has been going on forever.
	But I want to get to that in a minute.
	Because while I was researching the story for a specific reason, the CEO, I didn't even know it was a woman, Marnie Levin, she is the CEO of Instagram, she goes out of her way during some woman's conference, labeled as such, some woman's conference, About how they're really working with their audience to really help them.
	Now, I consider all social media, certainly with pictures, to be very destructive.
	It's horrible because what you're doing is you're putting your life out there.
	You're faking it.
	You're putting in filters.
	You say, oh, look how groovy my life is when usually most people are pretty depressed and sad, and that's why they do this.
	And there's lots of studies, there's moral self-licensing, there's virtue signaling, there's all kinds of reasons that people are a part of this, and it is being encouraged in, I find, a very disingenuous way.
	It's something that's really important to me as COO of Instagram.
	Oh, she's COO, sorry.
	But it's also really important to me as a mother, as a woman, like I really think about this a lot.
	So one thing we did just a few weeks ago is we offered a new tool which is around comment filtering.
	And what this does is it allows you to filter out words you might not want to see in the comments.
	Oh my, we can't get triggered by words we might see in the comments.
	And that creates a much more positive experience for the person who is actually telling their story.
	And what we want people to do is to feel safe.
	Safe.
	To feel like they can express themselves.
	Express myself.
	Because when they feel safe and when they express themselves...
	They like advertising more.
	They put their story out there.
	The reactions they get are overwhelmingly positive.
	And that is the way that they can find community of...
	Stop for a second.
	Actually, what you just said casually there, I'm wondering if that may...
	I don't know if they're doing it overtly, but it is possible...
	Because when you do advertising, you always want to get somebody in the right frame of mind.
	Bill Ziff had this whole thesis.
	Oh, totally.
	Humor is a great example.
	Get someone laughing, you can give them any message you want.
	Well, you get them to start saying yes is another one.
	But if you get somebody in sort of a mood...
	That because they're so non-threatening, everything's so non-threatening because it's been filtered out.
	You're giving yourself out there and you get nothing but love back.
	Your garden is down.
	Love comes in the form of buy a Coke, buy a Pepsi.
	And that's what Coke and Pepsi do.
	They sell something many times, at least in today's era, they sell their product as a monument to love.
	I mean, you drink a Pepsi and you feel better about yourself.
	That's an interesting thing.
	And it's sick.
	It's sick.
	Wait until you hear how far they're going with this.
	I agree with you.
	These guys, they're commercial.
	She's the COO. She's nuts and bolts.
	Chief revenue officer.
	Do whatever you want.
	She's about making sure the nuts and bolts work and the money's coming in and the expenses are low.
	That's what you do as a COO. I'm totally thinking this about advertising.
	The reactions they get are overwhelmingly positive.
	And that is the way that they can find communities of support.
	Teens are really good about telling their stories really authentically.
	You see them with these really positive messages.
	One woman who I love is this young woman named Gigi Crouch.
	Her account is scolarina.
	She has scoliosis, but she's a ballerina.
	And so her message is that If you have a passion and a dream, you can overcome adversity.
	She posts these photos of her doing these really complicated, beautiful poses.
	When she decided that she was going to stop dancing, she also posted on Instagram.
	And the overwhelming support that she got Is what she said helped her feel comfortable with her decision to go to college and stop dancing.
	So that's an incredible thing.
	We also just recently launched a campaign around, it's called hashtag perfectly me.
	And a number of teens talked about how they have taken what would be perceived as a weakness and turned it into a strength.
	And accepted themselves.
	Body positivity.
	So those are the kinds of things that we've really tried to do is to teach people great behavior.
	Oh, we want to teach people great behavior.
	Hold on.
	There you go.
	Those are the kinds of things that we've really tried to do is to teach people great behavior, create a safe and welcoming community, and really encourage people to tell their stories so that they can find those communities of support.
	Oh, communities of support.
	This is very destructive because these children will get out in the real world where people are assholes.
	And they're going to laugh at you, scoff at you.
	You're going to be discriminated against.
	You will not get chosen because of your affliction, whatever your issue is.
	Everybody has negative body positivity issues.
	And you're really learning how to trick yourself, trick yourself into feeling good because people you're collecting likes.
	Oh, you look amazing, girl.
	Oh my God, I love your haircut.
	It's destructive.
	These children will all grow up.
	Strangers in Indiana.
	Easy on Indiana.
	These children will all grow up with these horrible, with thinking that everything's going to be great and they have all the support.
	Well, this is that same problem with the self-affirmation movement and the Self-esteem is taught in the schools.
	It's all part of the same system.
	It's just the most modern version.
	And it's completely commercialized for selling crap to the children.
	Well, that's the key.
	But here's what's cool about it.
	These people feel real good about themselves.
	Maybe they'll buy this stupid couch.
	So it was only two weeks ago.
	That the Federal Trade Commission?
	Yes, Federal Trade Commission, I think.
	Yeah.
	The FTC, they released an important statement.
	It was April 19th.
	Federal Trade Commission reminds influencers and brands to clearly disclose relationship.
	Now, this has been going on for a long time, but after reviewing numerous Instagram posts by Celebrity's athletes and other influencers, Reed Kardashian's, The Federal Trade Commission staff recently sent out more than 90 letters reminding influencers and marketers that influencers should clearly and conspicuously disclose their relationship to brands when promoting or endorsing products through social media.
	Now there's a couple of interesting reasons for this.
	One, when you read through some of the examples, PewDiePie had a huge endorsement deal with Warner Brothers.
	And the reason why that's problematic is because guess who's not getting a piece of that money?
	It's Instagram.
	So if you think for one minute that all of this removal of advertising of YouTube money is only about not being brand safe, no.
	It's because they can't control your money flow.
	They need to have a part of that.
	FTC is probably somewhat complicit, but they have a lot of rules like you can't just do a hash.
	Totally complicit.
	Yeah.
	I would like to find out the lobbyist action that was going on.
	Now that you mentioned it, I don't think they're somewhat complicit.
	I think they're part of some grand scheme.
	Right.
	This is a – But then again, if you're Twitter and you have a bunch and you're trying to make money, you're providing a free service.
	People can use Twitter for nothing.
	This is about Instagram.
	Yeah, I know.
	I'm saying Twitter, Instagram.
	It's the same model.
	In terms of the FTC being irked about this, and it's the same.
	Both companies want to make money, but I'm using Twitter because I don't use Instagram.
	But it's the same thing.
	I'm on Twitter, and Coca-Cola made a deal with me.
	I don't have $100,000.
	I've got 5 million, 10 million people.
	I'm Britney Spears.
	And all of a sudden, I'm promoting Pepsi over Coke because Pepsi is giving me a cash payout.
	Well, there's no money going to Twitter for this.
	Okay, I'm just going to keep it with you.
	So why does FTC give a crap?
	Because they're complicit.
	You're right.
	And they sent the letter to 90 Celebrities, so they knew exactly who's doing what.
	But this folds into something very cool that happened this past weekend, which was promoted on Instagram by, amongst others, Kendall Jenner.
	And she was paid for it.
	And this is the Fyre Festival.
	I'm sure you read something about this.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's hilarious.
	So this is, you know, this bunch of douchebags.
	And it was all promoted by models who were paid to do it on Instagram.
	And this, if you haven't, I'm sure you heard about it.
	But, you know, the whole festival fell apart and was a disaster and was kind of just right because of all these...
	Wannabes and douchebags who saved up their money to go to this...
	And if they had only done, like, DJs or something?
	No, they had to do concert.
	Blink-182.
	Hello, 1912.
	Who the hell wants those guys?
	You're right.
	Actually, DJs would be a much...
	And people would go for that.
	Of course they would.
	I've seen, you can see, look up some of these DJs, you know, there's a number of very famous ones.
	I know most of them.
	The Dutch.
	Just hit images, and you'll see like 100,000 people rocking out to some guy up on a big podium, you know, doing his thing.
	It's unbelievable.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Well, I was going to say that I find it interesting to watch how these things kind of intersect.
	Because, of course, the Jenners or the Kardashians were people who received these letters.
	And who knows why this concert failed?
	But for sure, Instagram was not getting a piece of it.
	So, you know, I'm not saying Instagram went out.
	Well, the concert failed.
	There was a lot of articles written about it.
	The concert failed because they didn't deliver on anything.
	They couldn't get people over there, and it was just a ridiculous situation.
	And the bands were bailing out.
	No one was going to play, and there was no cabanas.
	There was shoddy tents that people were putting.
	There was no food.
	And, of course, because it's a social media phenomenon, the word got out instantly.
	Well, here's what I liked.
	This told me exactly what was going on.
	So this was organized by Ja Rule and his buddy there, one of his douchebags name is, some 25 year old.
	And here in this little bit in Rolling Stone as he was interviewed about this.
	I was a computer programmer and after computers the two things I love most are the ocean and for some reason rap music.
	Yeah, right.
	So these three hobbies of mine somehow led me to meeting with my partner, Ja Rule.
	Somehow.
	You don't have a story behind that, douche?
	Together we became friends and business partners.
	And here's the part that told me this guy's an ass.
	For us, it was always a battle of pushing the limits.
	Once we got flying lessons together, we got on these really bad 40-year-old planes and flew from New York to the Bahamas, not really knowing the Bahamas very well.
	We ran out of gas and landed in the Exumas, and both of us immediately fell in love.
	So if you are an aviator and you're licensed and you run out of gas, as you call it, fuel, you did not do your flight planning.
	So no wonder this whole thing fell apart.
	Fractal.
	Yeah.
	You don't plan.
	Fractal.
	Fractal.
	Well, there's a couple other things about that event, because people are all over it on the tweets and the toots and the this and the that.
	Going, oh, any douchebag, any dork that's spent $12,000 to become part of it.
	I doubt they got anybody's money.
	No, I think they got some money.
	They got some money.
	They probably got a few of the low-end monies, but nobody's...
	People that have the kind of money just to throw away, yeah, there are some dummies, dumb money out there.
	This was actually much worse because the way I see it, there were no actual rich kids of Instagram there because they would fly in on their own jet.
	They have their own stuff ready to go.
	They would never put up for just some tents or anything.
	I know how these kids operate.
	They would never get on the chartered flight, which was billed as a private airplane.
	It was just a chartered airplane.
	This was wannabes.
	This is people who were duped by Kendall Jenner, amongst others, on Instagram to come into this great douchebag thing, have the best Instagram pics ever, so you have no FOMO, and you're all a part of the groovy thing.
	This is a tipping point here.
	This is a tipping point.
	I will say, I will agree with your first part of your commentary, and I will disagree with the tipping point part.
	Well, I think we're on the tipping point of some kind of huge economic thing.
	Well, we're going to have an economic collapse in the next few quarters, but I don't think it really has much to do with these clowns.
	This was just a joke.
	Well, I love the fact that this sneaky advertising is falling apart.
	And this is what you're saying.
	I think it will affect Alphabet and their numbers long term because business-wise, they can't have the big PewDiePies anymore to advertise on.
	Not so much apparently now because it's not safe for brands because he's got all these side deals they're not getting a part of.
	So, either they keep them away for good and they suffer, or you watch, there's going to be new terms, there's going to be a whole bureau that's going to arrange this for these kids.
	You watch, there's something afoot and it's big.
	I think there's something afoot, but again, I'm not seeing the enormity of it.
	You're going to have to call me out if this ever happens.
	No, that's okay.
	Well, one thing's for sure, we don't have to deal with that kind of sneaky advertising.
	I'm going to show myself all by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	Yeah, we do have a few people to thank for show 9 to 5.
	Working 9 to 5.
	What a way to make a living.
	And it starts with Andrew Drake, $150.
	He said, the last show was excellent and it had me laughing out loud.
	Ah, good.
	I like hearing that.
	I just want to point out that even being laid off, heart surgery, and John not liking the book I sent you both, will provide enough value for value for me for my much more modest income.
	So we're against him.
	I don't know what book he's talking about.
	But he's got no work.
	He's got a heart surgery.
	This guy, Andrew, this guy...
	He still gives us $150 to help support the show.
	And I think he will live longer because of it, for sure.
	The stress is just so much alleviating.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know, the health and benefits of this show are ridiculous.
	I mean, we should be covered under Obamacare.
	You should be able to deduct that.
	Yeah, we should be getting money from the government.
	You should be able to deduct that.
	Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
	Where's your co-pay, Andrew?
	Thank you, Andrew Drake.
	Tony Andrees in Iowa City, $133.33.
	He says it's $100 for the show, $33 to cover Bill O'Reilly's podcast license.
	Yeah, taken care of.
	Yeah, okay.
	Jason Wall in Regina, Saskatchewan, $100.
	Thomas...
	Parts Unknown, $100.
	Brian Wifels, $99.99.
	Sir Richard Moffitt, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, $99.99.
	Anthony Fields, 92.50.
	Michael Wright in Orlando, Florida, 92.50.
	These are all the 92.50 donors.
	These are...
	It's Michael Reif with an F. Reif, I say.
	Nathan Craddock, Santa Clarita, California.
	These are all 92.50.
	Paul Erskine in Seattle, Washington.
	Sir Philip Meason in Welshport Powers, U.K., William Gefkin in Maspeth, New York, 92.50.
	Black Knight Sir Lineman of the Net, Raleigh Hawk in Anna, Illinois.
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	Sir Stephen Schwartz, May the Schwartz be with you.
	Bern, Texas.
	Bernie.
	We say Bernie.
	We say Bernie.
	I'll try to remember.
	And that's a little group of well-wishers with a 9250.
	That's 925.
	Celebrating the working man.
	That's a good one.
	I liked it.
	That was a good one.
	Yeah, it's cute.
	Austin, that was one of our producers.
	Austin Wilson in Sammamish, Washington, 9025.
	Gabe Shabazian in San Francisco.
	He's got a call out here.
	And he says he does.
	He's ready for the train museum, it says.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	David Boda.
	I was at Boda.
	I'm sorry.
	You're right.
	I just went ahead.
	David Boda.
	Boob.
	Yeah.
	David Boda.
	Monroe, North Carolina.
	Can I get a de-douche and a call to my bro, Bill Boda, Boda, for not, for being a douchebag?
	Douchebag.
	You've been de-douched.
	All right.
	Eric Tolbert in Topeka, Kansas comes in with the 808, and he sent a note in, and actually, if I'm not mistaken, he sent in a card.
	Oh, nice.
	Very nice.
	Nice.
	Cards are always nice, and appreciated.
	I love the show.
	Please accept this donation in honor of my wife and my sixth wedding anniversary on April 30th.
	We have a wedding listing.
	No, we don't, but you just did it.
	Great.
	Yeah, happy anniversary.
	Eric plus Bennett Tolbert in Topeka, Kansas.
	He likes, if you would, please play the boobs jingle for my lovely wife.
	It cracks her up.
	Boobs.
	Boobs.
	Miguel Gonzales.
	Gonzales.
	Depends on how you want to pronounce it, but in Great Britain, I don't know how they pronounce it.
	6969.
	Sir Got Nate, our buddy in Sebastopol, California.
	6969.
	Sir Eric...
	V.M. in Van Nuys, California, $59.25.
	Sir Eric V.M. says, hi, H-I-G-H. Baron Mark Tanner, our buddy in Whittier, California, $55.33.
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	Baroness Monica in Drayton Valley, Alberta, 5117.
	And the following people are $50 donors, name and location.
	Dennis Brown in Rhinelander, Wisconsin.
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	Chris Grimoli?
	Grimoli or Grimole?
	Grimole.
	Grimole.
	Parts unknown.
	Our buddy over here in Oakland, Joshua Defabo.
	And last but not least, Jared Seuss in Chicago.
	And then it drops off rather rapidly.
	It's funny.
	Yeah.
	I want to thank all these folks for helping us produce show 925.
	Yes.
	Thank you all so much.
	And of course, everyone who came in under $50, we see some podcast licenses here.
	This is typically for reasons of anonymity.
	People don't want their name mentioned.
	$49.99 just to come in right underneath the wire.
	But also lots of people on subscriptions.
	So thank you very much.
	It's highly appreciated.
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	So please support us at dvorak.org slash n a.
	There's a couple requests in there for some Jobs Karma.
	Can never have too much jobs, Karma.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
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	I'm no one chance to...
	And we start with a little belated birthday.
	Oberland Knight says happy birthday to his daughter Scarlett.
	She was born on February 3rd.
	So I guess she's just born.
	Brand new human resource.
	Congratulations.
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	Jeffrey Tuhigg says happy birthday to his love of his life, Rebecca Nelson.
	She's celebrating today.
	And Kimberly says happy birthday.
	Oh, we already have that one.
	To Sir Tim Pullman Tim.
	There you go.
	Happy birthday.
	And we have two nightings today.
	Always nice to see those come in.
	You know what that means?
	Oh, yeah.
	Let me get it.
	It's on the floor.
	There we go.
	Next to your keyboard.
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	You know how it works.
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	Eric, the show will gladly help you out getting that off to you.
	And nice to see all the tweets and toots of our new knights who have received their ring and their sealing wax and their certificate.
	Thank you for supporting the show.
	Thank you.
	No FTC giving us hassle here.
	Tell you that.
	No.
	Not going to hassle us.
	Truth in advertising.
	We are true.
	That's the reason the FTC is involved.
	That's what the claim is.
	There's no truth if you're shilling for some product you don't use, you don't care about, and you've been paid to shill for.
	That's illegal.
	Yeah.
	I mean, when we show for products, we show for products because we use them and like them.
	We're not getting paid.
	You know, we've gotten into the base with some of our producers over this.
	Well, you know, I think interesting is that whenever we do that, the first thing people always say is, oh, native advertising!
	That's the first thing they always say.
	They wouldn't even know about native advertising if it wasn't for us educating them about it in great detail.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Well, there's a clip I wanted to play.
	This is a meme cropped up and it stems from this particular clip.
	This actually ran as a teaser, but this was the Trump, the job is hard clip.
	And this is John Dickerson or Dickinson.
	Dickerson or Dickinson.
	I don't know.
	I'm confusing the two because I know a guy named John Dickinson.
	Anyway, so this is the CBS Face the Nation, and we have this question of Trump, and Trump casually says, oh, you know, this job's harder than I thought.
	And Dickerson's handled it really well.
	He...
	He talks about other people.
	This is apparently a common problem with anyone who becomes president for the first time.
	The job is hard.
	I remember George Bush going, the job's hard, hard.
	It's really hard.
	He goes on and on about it.
	Obama is quoted as saying the same thing everybody does.
	I think there's maybe even nobody that's not bitched about the job.
	But the way the internet handled it, oh, what an idiot!
	He didn't know the job was hard!
	And it's all over the Rob Reiners and all the rest of us.
	What a moron!
	Now, John, let's have a listen to what the president said yesterday in an interview with Reuters.
	It's getting a lot of attention.
	I loved my previous life.
	I had so many things going.
	I actually, this is more work than in my previous life.
	I thought it would be easier.
	I thought it would be easier.
	John, your thoughts?
	Well, all presidents feel the constraints of the office, and they find it more difficult than they expected.
	I mean, they're stymied by the bureaucracy, the Congress, the courts.
	It's supposed to be such a powerful job, and President Trump has faced all of that.
	And there's, of course, the fast pace of incoming administration.
	It sometimes even encourages the same kind of bluntness that the president showed in his remarks.
	John Kennedy once said, I wish I'd spent less time trying to get to be president and more time learning how to be president.
	Not a job to be underestimated, John Dickerson.
	Thanks, John.
	Hmm.
	Yes.
	So this was like a casual thing to say, honest thing to say.
	Being sincere.
	And he gets excoriated by the Dimension B group.
	What a moron!
	What did he think?
	I just found it very annoying.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, there was actually a point of light there during Bill Maher's show on Friday.
	Of course, Bill Maher is in an interesting position where he is a total dimension A person, a dimension B person, but he has dimension A tendencies.
	And mainly because I think he probably boned Ann Coulter in college.
	Didn't he go to the same school?
	I've been watching this guy for years, and if he hasn't boned her...
	He's definitely had a crush on her for at least five years.
	So he went off on UC Berkeley's treatment of Ann Coulter.
	And I have a clip for you.
	An issue that's always near and dear to my heart, the First Amendment, because Ann Coulter ran into a little problem this week.
	I know, we don't like Ann Coulter's views.
	You do?
	I like her as a person.
	I never agreed with one thing she ever said.
	That's different.
	Okay, but I was the speaker at Berkeley a couple of years ago, and they disinvited me, and then they got their act together, and I wound up doing it, and apparently that's what's going to happen with her, I think.
	But Berkeley, you know, used to be the cradle of free speech, and now it's just the cradle for fucking babies.
	And I feel like, you know, this goes on all over the country on campuses.
	They invite someone to speak who's not exactly what liberals want to hear, and they want to shut her down.
	I feel like this is the liberals' version of book burning.
	And it's got to stop.
	Howard Dean tweeted today about this.
	Hate speech is not protected by the First Amendment.
	Yes, it is.
	Threats are not protected by the First Amendment.
	This is why the Supreme Court said the Nazis could march in Skokie.
	They're a hateful bunch.
	But that's what the First Amendment means.
	It doesn't mean just shut up and agree with me.
	I can't believe you have to remind liberals of this.
	I can't believe it either.
	It's a shame because liberals are creating a fantasy land on college campuses that does not exist in the real world.
	In the real world, there are no safe spaces where you can go and no one will offend you.
	Life is offensive.
	Well, there you go.
	That must have been very hurtful for a lot of people to hear.
	The thing that got me about that little commentary, which I thought was from the Friday before.
	Oh, it could be.
	It could be.
	I'm wrong.
	I don't know.
	Was...
	Howard Dean said that?
	Yes, I know.
	Isn't that insane?
	I'd like to hear him say that.
	He tweeted that.
	Oh, he tweeted it.
	But it leads into some very disturbing news from Scandinavia, where hate speech is about to be codified as a criminal offense.
	Yes.
	Well, this has been going on for a while.
	It's been leading up to this.
	Yeah, they have the C-136 or whatever it's called.
	They have some hate speech bill.
	And so I have here the professor again, Jordan Peterson, who refuses to call or says, hey, you know, I'm not going to let my free speech be encroached by being required to use pronouns I have not used my entire life.
	I don't agree with him either.
	So he was on, what's the guy's name, Steve Pilker?
	I forget that.
	Canadian show.
	I subscribe to the YouTube version.
	It's pretty good.
	And so they have on this, Peterson, which a lot of our producers, certainly the Canadians, like a lot.
	Yes.
	And there's a trans woman, male to female trans, who he actually says he would call her she.
	She looks like a she.
	Not a big deal.
	No, not at all.
	But then there's another professor who pipes up.
	He's in studio with Peterson.
	And he's at the same university.
	And just have a little listen to this.
	They're at the University of Toronto.
	Yes.
	And I'm telling you, Scandinavia, you've got to nip this in the bud.
	They won't.
	I don't think so either.
	They won't.
	They can't do it.
	It's very, very worrying for what you're going through up there.
	And my thoughts and prayers are with you.
	Love and light.
	Well, I don't understand what the claim that there's no such thing as biological sex means.
	And I certainly think it's, let's call it an error, to suggest that there's some sort of scientific consensus about that.
	I mean, there's biological differences between males and females in animals and human beings at every level of analysis.
	I'm jumping in here.
	What about the notion he put forward at the end there, that if you do not refer to people with the pronoun that they prefer to be referred to, that is a form, according to the Human Rights Commission, of discrimination.
	It's not just a form of discrimination.
	It's a form of hate speech.
	That's why I made the video.
	I said that we were in danger of placing the refusal to use certain kinds of language into the same category as Holocaust denial, and suggested that maybe that wasn't such a good idea, especially since there's plenty of debate to be had about gender issues in our society, which I also think are also in danger of becoming illegal, and quite rapidly.
	So it isn't clear to me how long we'll be able to have the talk that we're having right now.
	I don't agree with why Dr.
	Peterson has been asked to stop abusing students on campus.
	To stop doing what?
	Abusing students.
	I see.
	And other members of our learning community who do deserve respect and do deserve to be able to work and learn and contribute to society in a...
	Place where if they are physically assaulted, if they are...
	The assault so far came from the social justice warriors who are at this free speech rally, and almost two million people have watched those so far.
	This is not accurate.
	This is not accurate.
	Well, you can look at the videos yourself.
	People have been making complaints about your behavior.
	Yes, I understand that.
	And so, we're seeing a greater opportunity for social justice happening that many people won't understand.
	Nick, can I be clear on something?
	You've accused him of abusing students by not using the pronouns they want to be addressed by.
	That's how I see it, absolutely.
	That is tantamount to abuse, in your view?
	Absolutely.
	Many, many global documents, many organizations...
	How about violence?
	Is it tantamount to violence?
	Yes, absolutely.
	How about hate speech?
	Is it tantamount to hate speech?
	Yes, of course.
	It's hate speech to tell someone that you won't refer to them as a...
	In a way that recognizes their humanity and dignity.
	Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
	Oh, poor Canada.
	Well, that discussion is going on around here, too.
	Right, but they're actually codifying the law.
	With the same guy, the same character.
	He's more of a universal type.
	He's not really any sort of a person that you can...
	It's not a guy that's causing trouble.
	It's a universal type that's causing trouble because they can't.
	Yes, I agree.
	He's his colleague, though.
	Well, the guy should, you know, you've heard my opinion about this, and I don't consider any, I mean, for one thing, do you really have to, before you can even have a conversation with somebody or say anything or chime in, you have to know somebody's pronoun?
	That's the deal, yeah.
	Otherwise, you're violating their human rights.
	Yeah.
	And dignity.
	Their human rights and dignity.
	As far as I'm concerned, they don't have any dignity.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Let's check in with Woodward.
	We heard about document destruction.
	He's still at it.
	Yeah, guy's long-winded.
	Yeah, this is a problem.
	I don't know how to address it properly.
	Perfectly because it is addressable and it hasn't been dealt with in certain situations.
	I've heard about people being successful.
	Ohio State, the president there seems to have done something proper.
	For the most part, people are cowed by these people because they just can't tell them to...
	Can anyone just say, hey buddy, you're just full of crap?
	No, you definitely can't say that.
	Why?
	You get fired.
	Well, you can't get fired, but anyone else can get fired easily.
	Yeah, I mean, we're in an awkward position, the two of us.
	We are.
	Because we can say that the guy's full of crap, and we don't have to worry about losing our advertisers.
	And by the way, I keep mentioning this on the show, and I'm going to keep mentioning it.
	At least five times in this show, he would have been fired.
	Oh yeah, easily.
	Easily.
	Let me see.
	That's why we do the support the way we do it.
	Let's just go a little international for once again.
	I do want to get this out of the way.
	Because it's got an issue in here that I have to ask you about.
	This is the woman who was just arrested in China as a spy.
	And she was just released.
	This is the FBI spy story.
	Okay.
	An American businesswoman has been deported from China on Friday after being convicted of espionage.
	Her two-year ordeal was a source of tension between the U.S. and China.
	Roxanna Saberi has the story.
	More than two years after Chinese security officials detained Sandy Fangillis, she's back home in the U.S. In a statement, her husband said many of Sandy's friends and family members have been crying tears of joy.
	The 57-year-old is an American citizen of Chinese descent.
	In 2015, she was visiting China on a trade mission with Houston officials and business people when suddenly she disappeared.
	She was subjected to repeated threats, including the threat to take away her access to doctors and medicine.
	Last month, her husband, Jeff, told senators her captors accused her of spying for the U.S. Sandy is not some top secret agent for the FBI. She is a wife and a mother and a businesswoman.
	Why would he even say FBI when clearly she would be CIA, not FBI? All the stories report her as the Chinese accusing her of being a spy for the FBI. Interesting.
	A secret agent for the FBI. She is a wife and a mother and a businesswoman.
	Fan Gillis' detention created friction between Washington and Beijing.
	Her case had stalled until Secretary of State Rex Tillerson reportedly raised it on a trip to China in March.
	On Tuesday, a court in China sentenced Fan Gillis to three and a half years in prison and ordered her deportation.
	Huh.
	She got sentenced and then deported?
	Yeah, well, she's already stuck there for a couple of years.
	Yeah, they were sentenced and then deported.
	Which means she can't go back.
	Well, this is part of our deal.
	We're clearly doing a deal with the Chiners.
	Well, there was some deal going on, but the question that kept coming up in my mind was the same one that you stopped the clip for.
	What's this FBI thing?
	I don't understand that.
	It would be CIA. Why are they claiming it's FBI? Does the FBI have...
	Espionage, intelligence, spies, or anybody floating around the world?
	Do we know that for a fact that they don't?
	Here's what I do know, is that FBI has cyber centers all over the world, including the Netherlands.
	They operate out of an office building, I think in The Hague.
	And it's FBI personnel who are eavesdropping and spying on people.
	And they're there with permission.
	But it is FBI. And they're only there because they can do that outside of the country.
	But an actual spy walking around as an FBI agent?
	Do we know for a fact?
	No, we don't.
	These agencies encroach on each other so they get bigger budgets.
	Could be totally true.
	You make a good point there.
	I'm always waiting for the incident where there's a shootout and a bunch of spies shoot each other.
	Spy versus spy.
	You know, no, but spy versus spy is two different sides of the thing, but all on the same side.
	We have NSA, CIA, DIA, NSA. All loaded, carrying weapons, and they get into a shootout, they kill each other.
	Yeah, you're right.
	You're right.
	Absolutely right.
	Well, there was other Chinese news, kind of a non-event, because we already covered one part of this news a while back.
	Given the importance of the Silk Road project to Chinese leaders, the train's arrival was a surprisingly low-key affair.
	No ceremony or fanfare.
	Yet this was still a very symbolic moment.
	The train had left China almost five months ago, laden with clothes, bags and household goods.
	It returned, carrying a cargo of pharmaceuticals, vitamin pills, baby milk powder and scotch whiskey.
	This very train is a reflection of the achievements of trade and is one of the benefits that one belt, one road has pushed forth.
	The service will run once a week for several months while demand is tested.
	Rail is cheaper than a plane and faster than a ship.
	This was not quite the train that left London.
	Differing rail gauges in countries along the route mean a single locomotive and set of wagons can't travel the entire length.
	The new route is designed to open up the fabled Silk Road trade routes between China and Europe.
	China already has rail services to 14 other European cities, including Madrid and Hamburg.
	Now, I didn't know about the 14 other direct routes, which aren't really direct routes because they have to change track gauges.
	But we knew this wasn't much of an event because we already covered it when the train came into the UK. That was months ago.
	But there's something else going on, which I think, as I was researching this, I came across the CPEC, the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor.
	And this is very similar.
	And this is not a train, but this is a road.
	They've built a road through China that goes all the way down through Pakistan.
	And just last week, Pakistan gave China a 40-year lease for the port of Gwadar.
	So they're making big moves here.
	Big moves.
	Well, this all stems from, I believe...
	And I think that the island building is the same thing.
	There's a belief in China, if you watch enough China news, they don't talk about it openly, but you can kind of see them hinting at it, that they think that the shipping that goes through that area that you always cite as the bottleneck.
	The Straits of Hormuz.
	The Straits of Hormuz, they don't trust it.
	So they're doing all these bypasses.
	And they're good bypasses, and this is a very good one.
	Straight through Pakistan.
	Which, of course, has all kinds of issues regarding India.
	There's that little piece in the north where India is in Pakistan.
	And you can see the road is literally like a little half a roundabout there.
	Let's stay away from that.
	We'll continue down in Pakistan.
	But when you get the Pakistanis teaming up with the Chinas, this is going to make the Indian guys pretty pissed off.
	This is not going to end well.
	Well, the Indians are traditionally allies with the Russians.
	Ah, okay.
	So they're even better.
	And so the Chinese really can't do the same kind of deals with the Indians that they could with the Pakistanis.
	And so, yeah, that's great.
	I'm sure it's going to be a very nice road.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's almost done.
	It's almost completed.
	Just that last bit now to the Guadar port.
	And what was that term that you had caught earlier about the one something, one road?
	What was it?
	Yeah, one...
	I can't remember.
	It was mentioned in the report that you just played.
	Yes, I can't remember what they said.
	But yeah, it was like one...
	One belt.
	One belt, one road.
	Yeah, one road, one belt.
	There you go.
	That's what it was.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, I was going to say, tomorrow is the deadline for the writer's strike, the Writers Guild of America.
	Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens.
	So they have until 12.01...
	I am.
	To come up with a solution.
	And it appears, the way the Writers Guild is positioning it, that it's really only about an extra payment, an annual payment of something like $117 million?
	Which seems like, really, that's what they're arguing about?
	It must be really bad in Hollywood if they're arguing about that.
	That's a drop in the bucket for some of these properties.
	And, of course, the writers are getting screwed because they get paid less for writing on a TV series, even though they say sometimes it takes more work to do that.
	So there's a lot of problems.
	And it reminded me that tomorrow is really an important day.
	I'm sure it's not coincidence, but tomorrow is May Day.
	It is the day of labor.
	Traditional communist day.
	Yes.
	Celebrating labor.
	Nine to five.
	Yes.
	And we have more controversy lined up.
	So nowadays, if your boss asks you to work more than eight hours in a day or 40 hours in the week, you're going to get paid extra.
	Time and a half.
	The May Day marches that are going to be taking place on Monday actually circle back to the originating cause, because right now Congress is considering effectively abolishing the Fair Labor Standards Act.
	The bill before Congress today is called the Working Families Flexibility Act.
	Let me just stop it there for a second.
	This is not published yet, the Working Families Flexibility Act.
	So this is only hearsay.
	They have not published it yet.
	It has not even been introduced into the House.
	But tomorrow we have protests about it because the idea is the...
	What did they call that?
	they called it the, what did they call that John?
	That act that they're...
	Yeah, the Fair Label Relations or something like that.
	Now, is it true that the eight-day work week...
	I didn't say anything because I was just listening to you.
	No, it's okay.
	Is the eight-hour work week, is that true?
	Was that the genesis of the May Day protests in the United States?
	Well, it wasn't the genesis of the protests.
	That's what he just said.
	No, no.
	It's this new law.
	No.
	He said it's bringing it back around to the...
	Listen to it again.
	He said it's what the new law...
	Play the clip.
	Play the clip.
	And I'll just tell you what the new law is.
	The new law says that the company should be able to give you time off in lieu of time and a half payment if you work overtime.
	You get time and a half off?
	That I don't know.
	That I don't know.
	You're going to get paid extra.
	Time and a half.
	Okay.
	But Gregory says...
	The May Day marches that are going to be taking place on Monday actually circle back to the originating cause because right now Congress is considering effectively abolishing the Fair Labor Standards Act.
	That's what he's saying.
	Yeah, it's bullcrap.
	Where did it start?
	It just started as a pure communist thing?
	It was a communist thing that started in the early 1900s.
	Well, there's a lot of bull crap in this report.
	A, because the Working Families Flexibility Act has not been published yet, so they've seen something the general public hasn't.
	They probably saw a working draft.
	Yeah, but listen to the complaint about this.
	In general...
	I understand.
	I'm pretty sure that I know people who...
	Celebration of the Communist Revolution.
	And it also stems from the May poll day.
	You know, the kids used to have fun on May Day.
	But the protests are going to be held against the Working Families Flexibility Act of 2017.
	And here's the reasoning.
	The bill before Congress today is called the Working Families Flexibility Act.
	If it passes, instead of overtime, employers could give comp time.
	Republican Kathy McMorris-Rogers of Spokane supports it because she says the bill gives employees options so they can be present in their families' lives.
	Democrat Susan DelBene, who represents the 1st Congressional District north of Seattle, disagrees.
	Well, I think we want to make sure that workers do have flexibility, but that doesn't mean presenting a false choice like this bill where You aren't guaranteeing that employees can even use their accrued comp time.
	There's no remedy if they're denied being allowed to use that.
	The Working Families Flexibility Act is expected to be brought to the floor in the House next week.
	So she's already claiming that this thing, oh, you know, it's a scam, you can't get overtime, you just get the time off.
	The whole thing is a protest.
	You know, when you actually go to this thing and watch the protest, all it is is anti-Trump.
	Yeah, of course.
	That's what it all is.
	Hate Trump.
	Hate Trump.
	Look what he's trying to screw.
	If they had the bill in front of them, they didn't get it out in time.
	May Day will come and go before the actual word is the language of the bill is in the public domain.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	But it's just always a good opportunity to hate Trump and May Day shows that we're good liberals because we're celebrating the communist revolution of 1918.
	Yeah.
	And meanwhile, F Trump.
	Yeah.
	Where's your tax returns?
	Yeah, right.
	Show us your tax returns.
	Exactly.
	That's going to be the thing.
	We are so pathetic.
	So we have another story that's not covered here at all.
	And it seems that it could be covered.
	But this is a German story about the...
	They're beside themselves over this story.
	You haven't heard about it.
	About the guy who's a German officer, I guess in the army, who decided to get in line...
	In the Syrian refugee camps and he's got...
	Now he's come in as a refugee and he's getting all these benefits.
	He's making out like a bandit.
	He's got a car, he's got a house.
	Well, they're trying to think that he may be a terrorist, a Nazi or something, trying to cause trouble.
	But here, listen to this German scandal story.
	I'm trying to figure out...
	How a German army officer managed to register as a Syrian asylum seeker without being detected.
	An interior ministry spokesman said the lieutenant had been given a place in a refugee home and financial aid.
	Even more oddly, he was only exposed after he was discovered planting a gun at Vienna airport.
	Here's more.
	It's still unclear what the man's intentions were and whether he had accomplices.
	Items were seized during a search of a possible acquaintance of his in Berlin on Thursday night, but no arrests were made.
	The federal office for migration and refugees is now under severe pressure.
	They accepted the German officer as a Syrian asylum seeker.
	The decision was made just a few months ago, long after the initial chaos of the migration crisis was over.
	Let's be clear, the quality control mechanisms of the Migration and Refugees Office failed.
	Clearly no one questioned him about any regional specifics in Syria, in Damascus, where he said he came from.
	He was evidently never made to write his name in Arabic, and yet he was still accepted.
	They need some extreme vetting over there.
	It goes on and on.
	There was a lot.
	They never asked them to speak Arabic.
	I cut this short because this goes on because they're very beside themselves.
	Oh, I can imagine.
	Of course they are.
	And they're just fuss budgeting around the whole thing.
	It's like they're all, what do we do?
	It's your fault.
	It's your fault.
	And this is like a major story because it shows that their system doesn't work at all.
	And I thought the guy was just doing it so he can live his normal life but then get this free check in the mail because they give them quite a bit of money.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, that's the odd story.
	They give them money, they give them cars, they give them a place to stay.
	Yeah.
	They protect them.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	No, it's...
	Europe will wake up and it's too late already.
	You should have been woke, Europe.
	You should have been woke.
	Woke and toke.
	Woke and toke.
	There's a new book coming out about President Obama.
	And there's a very interesting little nugget in here.
	This is, what is it called?
	This book is Rising Star, The Making of Barack Obama, written by historian David Garrow.
	He is a Pulitzer Prize winner.
	He wrote Bearing the Cross, a biography of Martin Luther King Jr.
	Of course, he's a regular contributor to the New York Times.
	And in this, very interesting, he wrote in this book about a relationship that President Obama had in his two years at Occidental College, which we know nothing about.
	Those records have been sealed.
	His relationship with openly gay professor Lawrence Goldin.
	Ah yes, I know about this.
	Yeah, a quote from the book.
	Golden made a huge impact on Barry Obama.
	Notice he's calling him Barry here.
	Why does no one call him Barry in real life?
	Why is it only now?
	Why don't we call him that when he was in office?
	Anyway.
	You're asking nobody.
	Yeah.
	Golden made a huge impact on Barry Obama, as he wrote in the book.
	Almost a quarter century later, asked about his understanding of gay issues.
	Obama enthusiastically said, quote, Three years later, Obama wrote something elusively to his first intimate girlfriend that he had thought about and considered gayness, but ultimately had decided that a same-sex relationship would be less challenging and demanding than developing one with the opposite sex.
	Again, this is all in the book.
	But there's no doubting that Golan gave 18-year-old Barry a vastly more positive and uplifting image of gay identity and self-confidence than he had known in Honolulu.
	So there's an interview with this author about this particular, well, about a number of things, but about did the president consider gayness and go back on it?
	Let me rephrase one of the conspiracies.
	Was there any time in Barack Obama's life that he experimented outside of the heterosexual lifestyle?
	I think anyone and everyone, no matter what their role in life, deserves a certain basic degree of privacy.
	So that's not something that I speculate upon, either in the book or in speaking about him.
	Prior to Michelle Robinson, Barack had three major serious relationships.
	Alex, Genevieve, both of their names are already on the public record.
	By the way, pretty big stripper names right there.
	Genevieve, please.
	But one should not look at those relationships...
	As being more important in kind than his...
	The guy is trying to say yes.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, he blew the guy.
	I don't even have to fast forward the clip.
	Yeah, he blew the guy.
	But here's the problem.
	If Obama considered gayness, which is the quote from the book, I'm not making this word up, But he decided it would be a same-sex relationship would be less challenging.
	Does that now mean that...
	I think that says it all.
	How would he know it's less challenging unless he did it?
	I don't care about whether he did it or not.
	I do.
	Here's the issue.
	So apparently it is a choice.
	You're not born that way.
	It's a choice.
	The president made a choice.
	Well, for the president it definitely was.
	Yeah, but he is the leader of Dimension B. Where everyone says, if you're gay, you're gay.
	You have no choice in the matter.
	But apparently, you do.
	Well, he did.
	He's a pretty important guy.
	I don't know if you can generalize from his specific experiences.
	I think you understand the point I'm making.
	I know what you're trying to make.
	And at this point, people try to make it.
	And I think it's a good point to make, if you want to make it.
	I'm not a subscriber to either side of that argument.
	I'm not saying that's my belief.
	I'm just saying, you know, you can't sit there and pontificate about how it's a choice.
	It's not a choice.
	You're born that way.
	And then you make a choice.
	And then you make a choice.
	Yeah, that's...
	No, I agree.
	It's the hypocrisy that you're bitching about.
	Yes.
	I don't care what he does.
	We all know that Reggie Love was his lover.
	We all know that those kids are not his, but they're Scotty Pippins and Stevie Wonder.
	We know.
	We know.
	Stevie Wonder.
	I'm less concerned about that anyway as opposed to my concern that he's a Muslim.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And that...
	The head of the CIA, Brennan, is also Muslim.
	I don't mind people being a Muslim in office.
	I don't like people that are hiding it.
	Hiding it, yeah.
	Because why are you hiding this?
	Yes.
	Are you a subversive Muslim?
	That's what you're doing by hiding it?
	If you're openly Muslim, then of course there's political reasons not to brag about being a Muslim if you're the President of the United States named Barack or Hussein.
	People will go, oh, I don't know, maybe I shouldn't vote for him because of these Muslims.
	I don't like these Muslims.
	But on the other hand, it would be like a...
	He's got to come out and say, look, I was a Muslim.
	I didn't blow up the country or anything.
	I don't know.
	Something like that.
	I just have mixed feelings about it.
	Well, but he's being very quiet right now, although he gets a total pass.
	By being on the yacht?
	Well, no, this Wall Street company that he's doing this $400,000 speech for, do you know what the setting is for this speech?
	I don't know.
	Bahamas?
	Healthcare conference.
	This is his quid pro quo.
	This is the payoff.
	Oh, for all the insurance companies, yes.
	Big payoff.
	Here's your money.
	Yeah, it's not unusual to get...
	Hillary Clinton pioneered this.
	Yeah, you get the money later.
	That way you can go testify and say, did you get paid for this?
	And you can say with honesty, say, I've not been paid a nickel for this opinion.
	I've not been paid a nickel to do this.
	And then you may get some money afterwards as a thank you.
	Yeah.
	Seems like that's a pretty big thank you for one speech.
	It's pretty good.
	Well, he's going to get a lot more thank yous than that $400,000.
	Definitely.
	Yeah.
	Okay, well, is there anything else?
	The only thing I have is a little local story I can play.
	Okay.
	Which is kind of disconcerting to me because I have a place up in the woods, not in the woods, but in the Pacific Northwest, where there's...
	The Unabomber shack.
	Yeah, that's what it is.
	There's deers that are nuisances.
	Is it deers or deer?
	Isn't the plural of...
	It could be deer.
	I don't care.
	All I know is that they're pests.
	Okay.
	And the biggest pest up there is kind of the point of this story.
	The story, this clip is called Eagles in Milpitas.
	We have new details this morning about a pair of bald eagles living on the campus of a Milpitas elementary school.
	An eaglet has hatched in their nest.
	The bald eagles have attracted a lot of attention since they were first spotted back in January at Kertner Elementary School.
	Our media partner, The Mercury News, reports a parent who has been watching the eagles says the eaglet was born about two to three weeks ago.
	Okay.
	Get him out of there!
	These birds are pests.
	They take kittens.
	You got kittens?
	You got a little kitten outside?
	Meow!
	Wandering around.
	Boom.
	Done.
	Gone.
	Puppy?
	Gone.
	Anything like that.
	Gone.
	Babies?
	Almost.
	Actually, the Golden Eagle is what I'd be more fearful.
	The Golden Eagle, which is extremely nasty and huge.
	They're much bigger than a bald eagle.
	I had one.
	I think I've talked about it on the show.
	There's one around here.
	And this damn thing took down a seagull and ate it whole in my back deck.
	I remember this.
	It was nasty.
	Yeah, and there was feathers everywhere.
	So it was all these feathers.
	And I look up into the plum tree.
	There's a plum tree back there.
	And there's the eagle digesting this seagull that he ate whole.
	And he's looking at me with a look on his face that says...
	What are you looking at?
	Yeah, what's up, Broseph?
	So I walked very slowly backwards into the house and closed the door.
	And it was like, and so he's, you know, about 15, 20 minutes later, you know, he took off.
	It's huge, huge.
	And I'm telling you, these things are frightening.
	But I don't see any of these stories about the cute little eaglette.
	And the bald eagle in Milpitas is being a positive benefit to the neighborhood.
	I like the term eaglet.
	Is that the real term?
	Eaglet?
	Yeah.
	That's pretty good.
	That's pretty good.
	Well, as we wrap it up, let me check one more time on...
	Clark McGregor.
	He's still out of John.
	Boy, people are lucky we watch that stuff for them.
	We really are.
	And finally, this was a notable switch, a notable change in attitude.
	We went from Kim Jong-un's big celebration with all the goose-stepping military out there showing off their weapons.
	Oh my God, look, there's just something new!
	Now what did we say about the something new?
	That could be made out of papier-mâché, for all we know.
	We don't know about some super thing.
	Well, listen to this report now.
	In a new North Korean propaganda video, the White House and an aircraft carrier are in the crosshairs.
	A carrier in the U.S. Capitol are shown blowing up.
	It's the latest installment of intimidating images from the regime.
	Here, Kim Jong-un enters on the red carpet, flanked by officers.
	He beams with pride at the weaponry on display.
	But tonight, a closer look reveals some of these weapons are far less deadly than they seem.
	I think the parade was based more on impressing their leader, Kim Jong-un, than impressing an adversary.
	Weapons expert Michael Pregett, a former U.S. military intelligence officer who's war-gamed against North Korea, saw some things amiss with the weapons display.
	These are Type 88 rifles.
	AK-74s with a grenade projectile, and you're seeing that here.
	Now, these rounds are dummy.
	These rounds are fake.
	But this capability is so outdated.
	I mean, this is a capability the North Koreans stole from the United States during the Korean War.
	We stopped using this in 1961.
	The reason this is not a menacing weapon to an adversary is because it has a high failure rate.
	At first glance, these appear to be sophisticated grenade launchers, but experts say they're really outdated bullet magazines with a high failure rate.
	We're told some missiles at the parade were likely mock-ups.
	Experts say it's too risky for them to display the real thing.
	Now, sure.
	Okay, it's too risky to display the...
	No.
	What is going on?
	Why all of a sudden would they stop the fear-mongering and now it could be just a bunch of dummies, a bunch of cardboard weapons?
	Why the change?
	Well, that's the question because we do know and we've known from the past and there's been lots of reports the Russians used to pull this crap in the 50s and 60s with their parades of missiles.
	Right.
	And although they do have missiles, but they don't parade them.
	I don't know.
	That's a good question.
	I think that's the question of the day because normally if you want to keep the public all hating on North Korea, you wouldn't even discuss it like this.
	Where was that presented?
	Was that RT? CNN. Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
	Yeah, I know.
	Maybe the word came down.
	Hey, back off.
	Could be.
	Oh, I've got information, man.
	New shit has come to light.
	Okay, this will be my last bit for today.
	We have so many great producers in so many places, high and low.
	We've got low friends in high places.
	Anonymous, four reasons you will understand.
	The true reason why Jason Chaffetz is resigning.
	Don't we all want to know that?
	I do.
	Today was the Utah County Republican Party organizing convention.
	This is the convention where we choose our party leadership for the country.
	For the county, I'm sorry.
	This is Jason Schaffetz's biggest county.
	I, our anonymous source, who I do know, as former member of leadership, get to listen in on conversations with nobody giving me a second thought.
	So, you bet I listen in.
	Thank you.
	Now, that's a producer.
	Jason's inside circle is talking to some other county leadership about why he's really retiring.
	You want to take a little guess, John?
	Sex scandal.
	No.
	He's not retiring to run for governor.
	He's retiring because after the 2016 national election, his family has been threatened.
	He's been threatened.
	His family's family have been threatened.
	These are the types of crazy threats that you can't ignore with plenty of detail on torture, rape, etc., of him and his family.
	Representatives, of course, do not get any special protection when they're outside of Washington, D.C., where Capitol Police handle security in the district.
	Any security that he needs comes out of his own pocket.
	Money isn't the biggest concern.
	The safety of those special to him is.
	Later today, I asked Representative Mia Love if she was receiving the same threats, and she said no.
	She hasn't had any serious threats since she's taken office, but then again, she never crossed Hillary.
	So that's the inside scoop.
	This is what happens when you dare cross Hillary, and I think that he is on the Hillary hit list.
	Well, if that's the case, quitting his position is not going to help him.
	Well, I mean, the hit list doesn't necessarily have to be killing people.
	She didn't kill Bill O'Reilly, which is another, by the way, there's another theory about that.
	Well, then again, I'll say this similar retort.
	Then she was successful.
	She gets him to drop out.
	Yes, exactly.
	Exactly.
	He shouldn't drop out.
	Well, Ross Perot dropped out.
	They threatened his family.
	He went, screw it.
	He could have done a lot of good for the country.
	Maybe.
	But we know he dropped out.
	I think it was the CIA that threatened him.
	I think that was the implication.
	Well, we don't know who is doing this threatening.
	Could be the CIA. Could be, yeah.
	He's a troublemaker.
	Although I did hear that this is a true rumor.
	Who the hell knows?
	That may be, by the way, stop.
	The CIA angle, if it was like one of these intelligence agencies, specifically them...
	Or even the FBI, for that matter.
	That would make it a little more credible if you knew for a fact that's who it was.
	Maybe our source will tell us more as more comes to light.
	I don't know if he's going to know any more than he gave us, but okay.
	There is this crazy rumor, though, that the people leaving Fox, that there is indeed an alternative conservative network that is being actively discussed amongst conservative donors.
	I was thinking, because of the way this came down when O'Reilly left, and then all these other people are quitting, or they're moving out, or they're doing whatever they were doing, that they were going to gravitate toward the Blaze, do a deal.
	I think I could see Beck doing a deal, giving O'Reilly half the network, or a third of the network, bringing in Roger Ailes, giving him a third of the network.
	Beck can drop his ownership down to maybe 20% with some more giveaways.
	And actually survive.
	And actually survive.
	And do well because with Ailes running the thing, in particular, he's a show business.
	Both of these guys, Ailes and Roe Riley, are show business geniuses that can make something work.
	And Beck's already got the kind of half of the network that he needs.
	He doesn't have as many households as he'd like to have.
	Right.
	But I think you could pop that thing right in there and next thing you know you've got this crazy thing going on.
	That's interesting though.
	It could happen.
	It could absolutely happen.
	And with O'Reilly as the...
	He claims he has these secrets of what they're trying to do to get him out of there and all the rest.
	He could do like an expose on it.
	But just looking at Fox News, they're wounded.
	They're weak.
	Now would be the time to do it.
	You can grab a couple of stars.
	Hannity will come over in a second.
	Oh, yeah.
	That way it would be perfect.
	And, and, and it would be an even better scenario, because of course now the Democrats are now openly running Fox News.
	They could set up, set this up with this one up too, with the same, the same, you know, backers who are really pulling the strings.
	Or it may be the real deal.
	I don't know.
	But there's definitely something afoot.
	And of course.
	Well, there's these, O'Reilly in particular is loaded.
	And I think Ailes is too.
	I think to the tune of those guys.
	Quarter of a billion dollars at least.
	They got money.
	They got money.
	Yeah.
	So they could front the thing and then get some investors, some, you know, the Koch brothers or somebody.
	Well, I hope they do it because that's just more material for us.
	Oh, yes.
	It should be great.
	I'm all for it.
	We're all in.
	Let's get it going, everybody.
	Okay, next time we speak, I will be in the new casa.
	So it won't sound as boomy.
	Everything's off the walls.
	I'm actually just sitting here in an empty house.
	Just make sure you've got it all set to go before you come for my Podcaster Pro.
	That's right, everybody.
	Anything to watch today, or can we just have a nice, relaxing Sunday?
	There's not going to be much.
	I mean, there's the last remnants of the NBA first round, which is kind of fun.
	The Warriors will be back in action probably on Tuesday or Wednesday.
	Well, then, I'm excited to see everybody again on Thursday.
	Let's keep it at that.
	Coming to you from the Crackpot Condo here in the skyscraper, it's in downtown Austin, Texas.
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	Until Thursday, remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. Until then, in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where the paint has dried, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Again, we're back on Thursday.
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	Until then...
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	Show the world!
	Oh yeah.
	You're right.
	We own the future, is what that's saying.
	We own the future, we own the children, we own their mind.
	And I screamed so loud.
	All your children belong to us.
	And I was getting ready to cry, but I was like, no, no, I have to go back to class.
	All your children belong to us.
	Unbelievable.
	And I screamed so loud.
	Save the world!
	All your children belong to us.
	We own the children.
	Go back to class.
	Go back to class.
	All your children belong to us.
	Save the world!
	Go back to class.
	Go back to class.
	Go, Toby!
	That's really important.
	I have my pen.
	Where'd my pen go?
	Where'd my pen go?
	Now I don't remember what I was going to write down.
	It was something important.
	Go Tobing!
	I'm on the front.
	I'm on the front.
	It's just a silly thing.
	The allies that's valid.
	The allies that's valid.
	The Scott Jones who just said that he had to go.
	The silly thing.
	You don't have to be so snotty.
	I was about to say, you don't have to get it out.
	You don't have to.
	The best interest of my constituents.
	I think he's dangerous.
	You might want to consider, you know, ties with allies.
	I think it's true to that.
	Ow, ow, ow.
	You don't have to go.
	I don't have to go.
	Back your family.
	No, it's just so big.
	Others, they're across.
	You see, across the sea.
	Across the sea.
	Now, there's something important.
	I'm YouTubing.
	Not the thing.
	The sea is to watch.
	Across the sea.
	Across the water is crossing.
	Not like Uday and Cousin.
	Not that big.
	And now.
	Avocatron.
	It's just a silly thing.
	It's all much wrong with us.
	Not even though we're off.
	Landed on the face of children.
	I look across the sea of the...
	A fact on the ocean.
	I look across the sea of the...
	I look pretty on it.
	It's silly.
	Get it out.
	With the man who changes his mind.
	I'm going to kill him.
	I'm going to kill him.
	Boobies, honkers, glands, mammaries, areolas.
	No kid, areolas are knockers.
	Knockers, breasticles.
	Fun sacks.
	Fun bags.
	Chesticles, another one.
	Hey, war room is on a roll.
	Rooters, balloons.
	Fun bags, this is great.
	Fabulous, you guys are a bunch of animals.
	Golden bozos, never heard me know that.
	Golden Boze Golden Bozard Golden Boze Golden Boze
	The best podcast in the universe!
	Oh my god!
	Adios, mofo.

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