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	Hey, this is terrible.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	And it's Sunday, January 1st, 2017.
	This is your award-winning Gibbo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 8901.
	This is No Agenda.
	The only broadcaster so poor we work on holidays.
	And broadcasting live from the darkest corners on the Internet, here in Austin Tejas, in the Region 6, here in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where Plato say, no more Plato in 2017, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	That's how we started off?
	Yeah.
	No more Play-Doh in 2017?
	No.
	I'm so sorry.
	Why?
	There'll be the Play-Doh book, the No Agenda, Play-Doh Says Book.
	Well, it's interesting you bring that up, because I thought, even though we don't really do New Year's resolutions, I think this will be the year, 2017, I finally get my podcast device out.
	Oh, fantastic.
	Yes.
	And you will get your cycles book out, and the Vinegar book, and the Play-Doh book.
	Yep.
	Well, those books are giblet, so they're not going to be real hard to do.
	Well, not the cycle book, though.
	And I have to do the cycles book before June, so that's like in a rush mode.
	You really got to do that one.
	That's the one that I think is most important.
	Yeah, because the cycle's up.
	Yeah, you kind of want to do that before the cycle gets here.
	Yeah, otherwise I look like an idiot.
	Although I've been talking about it for years.
	But I look like an idiot anyway.
	Nah, you don't.
	What did you do last night?
	What am I going to do, right Hillary?
	What am I going to do?
	Were you alone last night?
	Did you have family over?
	What was going on?
	What did you do for the New Year's?
	I did show prep.
	Yes, okay.
	I did the same, yeah.
	And I worked till midnight, watched the fireworks display, and went to bed.
	I have to go to bed early because I got a show.
	Me too.
	No, the show takes precedence, so we don't have any fun.
	Tina and I went out for dinner.
	Austin is strange.
	I understand that on July 4th you do the fireworks at 10 o'clock.
	It's, you know, okay, fine.
	For kids, I guess.
	But New Year's Eve, you do the fireworks at 10 o'clock?
	I don't understand.
	No?
	That makes no sense.
	They did?
	Yes.
	Oh, our fireworks are at midnight like they're supposed to be.
	That's what it should be.
	This is typical.
	Are you kidding me?
	Are you telling me that in Austin, Texas, the fireworks were at 10 o'clock?
	I'm sure that there was a committee meeting.
	Oh, the children have to sleep.
	That was kind of the point.
	I'll find out.
	I think 10 o'clock fireworks are microaggression.
	Yeah.
	Let me see.
	10 p.m.
	I didn't actually look it up.
	I'm just wondering if there's anything about that.
	I'm sure that it's, oh, the children.
	But again, that was kind of the, here it is.
	Free, family-friendly celebration in downtown Austin.
	There it is.
	My goodness.
	Let me see what they say about this, you morons.
	Austin's New Year will transform, okay?
	I hate to mention it to them, but 10 o'clock is not New Year's.
	No, of course it's not New Year's.
	But they're doing it for the kids.
	For the children.
	Think of the children!
	Wasn't that kind of the fun part of New Year's?
	You get to stay up late?
	Yeah, that you get to stay up until midnight.
	That was part of the fun.
	Oh, won't somebody please think of the children?!
	A little champagne toast.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Kids will get a little bit.
	Yeah, you'll get a little buzzed.
	Come in and bust those parents.
	Yeah, not anymore.
	Not anymore, man.
	Not anymore.
	Nope, nope, nope.
	However, of course, we did have an opportunity to watch some very funny television.
	A number of great things going on, as I did that for show prep.
	Oh, good.
	Yeah.
	First one?
	Because I did none of that.
	I didn't zip.
	I didn't watch any of the stupid shows.
	Oops.
	Sorry.
	Well, they're always going to be drunk.
	Well, there was one in particular.
	I got the sense that this segment always kind of leads to the conclusion of drunk.
	Yes.
	The jingle's a giveaway.
	Yeah.
	So I watched two different programs switching back and forth.
	I always have to watch Kathy Griffin with Anderson Pooper.
	I find her to be usually quite funny.
	Answer drunk!
	Yeah, drunk, yeah.
	She was good this year.
	In previous years, she really yelled, man, just a little too much, but she was pretty funny.
	Then I watched, of course, Dick Clark's New Year's Rockin' Eve with Ryan Seacrest.
	Man, you gotta, that's pretty cool if you'd been dead for 10 years and your name is still on the show.
	Do I know somebody who works with Ryan Seacrest?
	Yeah.
	Apparently the guy is like, He's just on the ball for like 18 hours a day.
	He goes from meeting to meeting with like a handler who just got a stopwatch.
	Then he goes out to the next meeting and bang, bang, bang.
	This guy is the next Dick Clark.
	Oh, he is.
	Yeah, no doubt.
	So I want to talk about that in a moment.
	But the CNN show, they were tossing all over the place.
	And Brooke got Don Lemon on.
	Who, later in the evening, had his ear pierced live on TV, which is, hello, 1987?
	Boy, that was a big deal then.
	Ooh, he got his ear pierced.
	He was hammered.
	Listen to this.
	I don't really do it.
	I always live my life to the very fullest.
	Yes, you do.
	The thing is, I need a little bit more balance in work-life.
	I may be open to a relationship this year.
	I wasn't before...
	Breaking news, Don Lemon is open to a relationship?
	Yeah, well, yeah.
	Actually being available to be in a relationship.
	I'm a bad person to date.
	I'm not selfish.
	I'll give you my last, but I'm very self-centered.
	I'm not going to be as self-centered.
	You're going to be less self-centered in 2017.
	But I don't really do resolutions, and I live my life to the fullest.
	I don't care what people think about me.
	I do what I want, because it's my life.
	I'd fire him immediately.
	Quoting Shirley Bassey on New Year's Eve, everybody.
	Oh, man.
	I'm too self-centered.
	You think?
	Overnight legend Don Lemon, everybody.
	Bonky Moon celebrated New Year's by becoming a stand-up comedian.
	Monkey Moon, of course, Secretary General of the United Nations.
	This is his last...
	Last night was his last day in office.
	As we have a new Secretary General incoming.
	And he stood there with the crowd and just...
	The United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon is spending his last full day in the office before standing down.
	Well, this was the scene at the UN building in New York as he said goodbye to his staff.
	He will be replaced on the 1st of January by Antonio Guterres.
	He was the former Prime Minister of Portugal.
	Now, Mr Ban was in a rather cheerful mood as he made these farewell remarks.
	Now, I feel a bit like a Cinderella.
	Tomorrow and midnight, everything changes.
	Why is it open?
	There's a bit of a part.
	I have to do all my own.
	Tomorrow night, on the eve of New Year, I'll be in Times Square for the ball drop, New Year ball drop.
	Millions of people will be watching as I lose my job.
	Shut up.
	Shut up.
	Man.
	Now So what he said, I don't understand, he's going to the sperm bank?
	Yes, the sperm bank, the bod drop to Rinderera.
	Finally, the guy's doing something funny as he's leaving.
	I think he was doing something funny all the time, the whole time.
	He's highly regarded, though, I'll tell you, for some reason.
	Big to-do at Mar-a-Lago in Florida.
	The President-Elect...
	Stop briefly to talk to the press, tell everybody what he thought of the Russian hacking, and you know?
	Oh yeah, oh yeah, he's not messing around.
	Well, I just want them to be sure, because it's a pretty serious charge, and I want them to be sure.
	And if you look at the weapons of mass destruction, that was a disaster, and they were wrong.
	And so I want them to be sure.
	I think it's unfair if they don't know.
	And I know a lot about hacking, and hacking is a very hard thing to prove.
	He knows a lot about hacking, man.
	He knows a lot about it.
	But you think he's just a builder?
	No, no, no, no.
	They don't know.
	And I know a lot about hacking.
	And hacking is a very hard thing to prove.
	So it could be somebody else.
	Wouldn't it be cool if he just popped out a laptop, brought up a command line, said, let me show you.
	Let me trace right over here.
	here.
	I'll show you exactly what's going on.
	Now that would be great.
	I think to prove.
	So it could be somebody else.
	And I also know things that other people don't know.
	So they cannot be sure of the situation.
	You'll find out on Tuesday or Wednesday.
	Make America great again.
	So how about that?
	He's got info!
	We've identified this issue before when I played that clip of him from some time back.
	He obviously had access to the 28 missing pages of the 9-11 report.
	Yes, he lets that out.
	Exactly.
	So he actually may have some...
	And he's got Flynn working for him.
	Flynn knows what's going on.
	Yeah.
	I was watching the wrap-up.
	The news wraps on all these stations was good.
	Before you go there, thank you for the newsletter.
	Thank you for just stating it exactly how it is.
	What?
	Bullcrap celebrity culture in the world.
	Well, I think we mentioned that on the show a couple of times.
	Yeah, but it was a good newsletter.
	And before we get into the Trump side, I need to mention one more thing.
	I think we saw a tipping point as it comes to celebrity worship and culture.
	The number one thing that was tweeted was Mariah Carey's debacle on the Ryan Seacrest show.
	Did you hear about it?
	Did you see it?
	Because I know you went to bed.
	Nope, nope, nope, and nope.
	Oh, this is great.
	So at a quarter to midnight, and you know, I'm always looking at how these shows are produced, because I've done New Year's Eve shows on Times Square.
	A friend of mine was in the truck.
	He was line producer for the Ryan Seacrest show.
	Then he was actually putting stuff on Facebook and pictures and then all of a sudden he's like, it wasn't my fault!
	So what happened?
	She walks out.
	And I know exactly what happened.
	Whatever you read, bullcrap, this is what happened.
	She walks out.
	Now, Mariah Carey, you have to understand, she has this Mariah's World.
	She has a reality show on E! Which, by chance, Tina and I happened to catch on Friday.
	We caught, like, 15 minutes of an episode.
	Admit it.
	Fans.
	No, absolutely not.
	And it is...
	I mean, she lives in her own...
	And I know this universe.
	I know this world.
	It's all women and they all have to be single and they can't cry when something goes wrong.
	She is oblivious to anything outside of her own bubble.
	Like really anything.
	And she's extremely annoying.
	Which she wasn't always, but she's had an interesting career and a tough life.
	And I will put above everything else, she's very talented.
	But she's gotten into this thing, and she's starting a world tour, and this was supposed to be the kickoff, 15 minutes before midnight.
	She's going to do three songs, you know, just before the ball drops.
	And I saw it, the minute it started, they started Auld Lang Syne, her version, and I saw her react late.
	So I'm like, ah, lip sync, okay, lip sync, good.
	And it was great.
	I was like, okay, that's good.
	Then she goes into the second song, and it's the wrong track.
	It is the track that she uses in concert to sing, or when you're singing live for a track date, is what we call it.
	So it doesn't have her vocals.
	It only has, interestingly enough, some of her flageolette is in there.
	And that stuff.
	I can't do it.
	And so she notices that there's no vocals and of course her mouth is opening and nothing comes out because there's no vocals on it.
	And then she just freezes.
	And her mic is put open now, so she's talking to the crowd.
	She's like, oh, well, okay.
	Hey, sound guy.
	She's talking crap.
	Oh, I'll just let the audience sing.
	Meanwhile, this thing is just going on in the background.
	It's only the backing vocals.
	And then her flageolette, which really shows you that that is meant to be on the tape, even when she's singing live.
	Then the dancers are like, oh, they're trying to get back into the choreography, and they pick her up, and they try to do some of this dumb choreography.
	And meanwhile, she's basically wearing nothing, like a whore!
	It's just crazy.
	And so the whole diva thing falls apart and she winds up walking off stage.
	And it's ignored.
	Ignored throughout the rest of the broadcast.
	Rightfully so.
	But of course social media.
	Nobody even said wow.
	No.
	No.
	Of course not.
	Social media exploded.
	You know, like, oh, the last person to die in 2016.
	Mariah Carey died, her career died.
	Right on the stage, yeah.
	And it was, in a way, it was a tipping point, because then they, of course, they go to the pre-tape stuff, and ABC was going to Lionel Richie in Vegas, who was on stage at a concert completely lip-syncing.
	That was really egregious.
	And I do want to say to the thousands of people, it's not lip-syncing, it's lip-syncing.
	Oh, that's a new one.
	Somehow that got out of control.
	Lip-syncing, really?
	So I hope, although it may just be...
	Hold on a second, you gave us a premise and you're not concluding it.
	Okay, I was going to, but go ahead and ask me a question.
	What happened?
	Well, nothing happened except that everyone in social media exploded and Mariah Carey, you know, oh, her career's over.
	She's dead.
	Can never do anything again.
	And in a way, it was kind of like, oh, we just discovered, strangely enough, that all these shows are fake.
	Duh!
	So I'm hoping that people see that everything is fake.
	I know.
	What am I thinking?
	Do you think it was a screw job by somebody in the engineering department that got chewed out earlier?
	No, I think it was her multitude of little minions who I've seen on her show running around who were just idiots.
	But they all kiss her ass.
	They kiss her ass.
	That was good.
	The funniest response was, you know, Mariah Carey blames Putin, of course, for hacking her audio tape.
	I thought that was probably the best tweet that I saw.
	So that was New Year's Eve.
	Sad.
	Sad state of affair.
	Huh.
	Very, very sad.
	Well, I didn't watch any of that crap.
	No, you can rely on me to do that.
	Yeah, well, I'm glad that you did.
	Somebody watched it.
	And besides that, especially the feeds.
	They already played this.
	It's like a rerun anyway.
	I'm surprised they didn't cut it out of the secondary feeds.
	I wonder if they might have cut it out of the West Coast feed.
	I haven't checked that yet, but that's what I would be doing.
	I think it's a timing issue if they do.
	I don't think they can really cut it out.
	It's too much work.
	I mean, you cut that out and what are you going to do?
	Let's just play Ford ads!
	There was a lot of that!
	I'm sure of that.
	I will say one thing.
	I watched a couple of these football games.
	Just the beginnings and then I sped watching.
	I gave up.
	But I have to say I admired the Washington Alabama game for the National Anthem.
	They brought out two giant College bands, both of them, put them on the field and let them play the national anthem.
	So we didn't have some crazy singer out there go, you know, hamming it up.
	Oh, that's different.
	Yeah, that's different.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	When I saw that, I said, that's what everyone should do.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, maybe we're finally entering the era of celebrities don't matter quite that much anymore.
	Since they can't actually do anything, they couldn't get Hillary elected, they're not going to stop the Trump inauguration with their bogative concert.
	Which is totally disrespectful.
	I think it's going to hurt them more if they actually do that.
	If they do that concert, they're through.
	Yeah, I agree.
	I agree.
	I mean, I think at some point, some smart guy will say, hey, you know, maybe we shouldn't be doing this.
	Just let's back off.
	Maybe just coincidental, but it was actually the national anthem that was Mariah Carey's previous disaster.
	Remember that?
	After 9-11, 2001?
	No, I don't.
	Let me see.
	I think I have a clip of it here.
	What the hell's that?
	Give me more.
	Oh, I don't know.
	Let me see.
	Where is it?
	Where is it?
	I did not know.
	Someone here.
	Well, we like this.
	Okay, I should have pre-produced it.
	Forget about it.
	She's a disaster.
	Yeah, I think it's a good idea to do that with just bands.
	And I love it.
	Do they do real cadence stuff?
	Do they do like real...
	It was played straight.
	They were standing there.
	Nice.
	There was no bullcrap.
	So I watched the end of the year shows.
	NBC did a great tribute to everyone who's dead.
	And pretty much I was looking for something.
	I know who they're going to not say.
	But no, they covered everybody.
	It went on forever.
	Every dead person was listed.
	Actually, I started writing them down and then I A lot of people died in 2016, because they die every year.
	I think in 84 or something, there were many more celebrities, so-called celebrities, who died.
	It was up to 170 or something.
	Maybe.
	This was not the worst year ever.
	Well, it was a start.
	Yeah.
	It was just an old lawyer joke.
	Sorry.
	Sorry I said that.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	A couple of things we should I was noticing all the rundowns for the 2016 what happened I made my own list of stuff that was forgotten I don't know if you can think of anything that was forgotten, but just to mention a couple.
	Okay.
	The Panama Papers.
	Panama Papers is a good one, yes.
	That was not mentioned, of course.
	No, not mentioned.
	You remember that?
	And the Panama Papers led to the resignation of the Prime Minister of Iceland, if you remember that.
	Yes.
	And Iceland, although you don't like to talk about sports, they won the Euro Cup.
	Their soccer team is this, you know, this little bitty thing.
	Hmm.
	Yeah, I know.
	You mumble.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All the shooting.
	Is Charlie Hebdo 2016?
	I believe so, yes.
	Yeah, and there's the other couple things.
	Those weren't mentioned on the rundowns.
	Hmm.
	The Turkey coup was apparently forgotten already.
	Yes.
	Cameron quitting was forgotten already.
	Nobody in the rundowns mentioned Dilma Rousse, the president.
	Brazilian head of Brazil getting ousted by a coup.
	You could go down the street in anywheresville America and say, hey, what happened in Brazil with the coup?
	And people go like, huh?
	No.
	That brings me to a contrast.
	I got a couple of clips of Rundown of Britain.
	RT has this show called Going Underground.
	It caters to the British.
	It's about British news.
	And there was a couple of things I picked up out of there.
	And just to give you a tease, this is one of, they brought these columnists in from various newspapers.
	But there was a tease in here I've got.
	Where is it?
	British Rundown 2, British Rundown 3.
	Oh yeah, this is actually pretty interesting.
	You're talking about people not knowing anything.
	Here's a guy, I think he's from the Telegraph, came in and he started discussing what 2016-2017 is going to be like.
	He equates it to various years in history.
	And then he goes into the understanding of the Brexit strategy, which he believes is a bogus strategy.
	But I just got the biggest kick out of a guy coming on And the British, they would pick up on this.
	Americans would go, what's he talking about?
	What happened in 1848?
	Play British rundown predictions analogies.
	We're living through quite momentous times.
	I think that 2016 has been a year like 1848.
	Wait, what was 1848?
	Well, 1848 was a revolutionary year, but this is on the European side of the motion.
	For us, 1848 was...
	You know, just a prelude to the discovery of gold.
	Ah!
	Yes, 1849.
	Yes.
	Like 1848, a year like, maybe like 1917.
	It's a year when there's been a, maybe 1990, 1979, a year when the existing orders are being overturned.
	I just got the kick out of it.
	It's very hard to predict.
	Stop it for a second.
	It reminds me of people who review wines.
	Oh, this one, yeah, 2015 is very much like, it's a little bit like, oh, I don't know, 1996, maybe, maybe 95, and they go on with this sort of thing, and unless you're like in the know, you would have no idea what they're talking about.
	I've got to ask you a question.
	Last night at dinner, which was at Zephyr going by as we speak, at slow speeds.
	Slow speeds Zephyr, everybody.
	At the restaurant.
	They said, oh, we have a special on wine this evening.
	We are offering a Moet Chandon.
	Normally $110 per glass.
	Tonight, only $55.
	And I'm like, what?
	For Moet?
	I'm sorry, Dom Perignon.
	I'm sorry, Dom Perignon.
	I said, what year?
	He said, 2004.
	Now, you are the expert.
	We did not order this, obviously.
	What should the price be for a glass of 2004 Dom Perignon?
	Well, you can figure it out for yourself, but all the Dom Perignons are vintage.
	Not all vintages are the same, but 2004 is credible.
	The bottle would cost probably between $120 and $150.
	So that's the retail price.
	And I don't see it much cheaper usually.
	And so it would probably $55 a glass.
	This is a markup.
	They're making money at $55.
	No kidding!
	Yeah.
	I'm like, baby, drink up your vodka martini.
	We're not going to order that.
	What you want to do is you throw it back at the guy.
	Do you have any growers?
	Here's the key.
	Do you have any growers champagne?
	Oh, man.
	If I had only known this, I could have made the day.
	Do you have any grower champagne?
	If the guy goes, then you know he doesn't know what he's talking about.
	You should know what you're talking about.
	Let's go back to your clip.
	...being overturned, and it's very hard to predict who's going to be the Prince Messinic of the counter-revolution in 2017, or maybe there won't be.
	Maybe it's going to gather pace.
	I think it's more likely to gather pace the revolution.
	Some saying the counter-revolution may be either the Supreme Court or politicians in Westminster, because, of course, the biggest issue politically in this country, obviously, is Britain leaving the European Union.
	In this country, it is.
	I don't see that, you know, that the Supreme Court or Parliament or Big Business or Tony Blair, that formidable figure, will be able to prevent any of this.
	What's your impression of the preparations for this process now?
	I think they're very well.
	I can see exactly what's going to happen.
	I think it's all quite well set out now that you're going to basically Mrs May's strategy is to stay in the European Union without actually belonging to it, if that makes sense to you.
	Really?
	Well, that's certainly not what she's saying in Parliament.
	No, it's exactly what she's saying.
	One of the first political correspondents eventually learn that you must always watch what politicians are doing, not what they're saying.
	When you work that out, you can see exactly what she's manoeuvring to do, which is to basically keep as much as possible in the single market and conceding in return a great deal of freedom of movement.
	You're hearing this whispered around.
	So CEOs of big major companies, little government secretaries in the civil service, worrying about the fact there's been no big preparations for revolutionary change.
	They can take heart from this.
	It's going to be stable.
	Well, this is what Mrs.
	May is trying to do.
	In many ways, it's a betrayal of what people voted for on June the 23rd.
	That's what she's doing at the moment.
	Well, if that wasn't bad enough, here's a very short clip of a different guy.
	He was interviewed on that show, another columnist from one of the newspapers.
	And this is a very short clip.
	So the UK diddy on rundowns.
	Again, you have to listen carefully because these Brits at this level, they're very hard to understand.
	Not much easier than Bunky Moon, honestly.
	Right.
	But listen to the UK ditty.
	This is a good one.
	Just careful.
	All right.
	Here we go.
	So, basically, Jeremy Corbyn, he'll be gone.
	Brexit will be staying in the European Union.
	There'll be a second referendum.
	And why do you want to talk about Loch Ness?
	Second referendum.
	Nice.
	Not sure what Loch Ness has to do with it.
	Well, hey, it had to do with this guy's...
	I didn't want to keep the whole clip, but he was showing that if you'd bet one pound, it had to do with betting.
	Right, right.
	London, I will say, had probably the most spectacular New Year's fireworks synchronized music display I've seen.
	You should look at it on YouTube.
	I mean, really phenomenal.
	Very modern, great music, impressive.
	Impressive.
	Well, good.
	I'm glad they had something to liven things up.
	Let's go back.
	Can we get back to these rundowns?
	The same guy that talked about the 1848 goes on.
	This is British Rundown 2.
	And you've written that there will be a statue of Farage somewhere.
	A statue of Farage, no less.
	Now, I want to stop right there with the statue of Farage.
	And the guy has an explanation for it.
	The only reason I want to stop there and mention this is not to pat ourselves on the back because there's no reason to do that.
	But I remember when we first picked up on Farage, which was about seven years ago.
	Very early on when we were getting into the show was the model that we have today.
	And we got nothing but grief from our British audience.
	Oh yeah, racist, a-hole, why do you even don't give him exposure?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, he's a loser.
	Racist.
	And he's a racist crank.
	And you guys are off.
	You're wrong.
	You guys are wrong to be even mentioning him.
	He's not important.
	You think he is.
	He's not important.
	And it went on.
	These are the people from the country sending us notes.
	But we saw something else.
	We saw some sort of...
	We had insight into his, like...
	He was...
	People like to say truth to power, a phrase I don't like that much, but he is the one doing it when he was giving these speeches at the European Parliament.
	So now he's going to get a statue.
	Well, that's a prediction, I presume.
	It's not actually a prediction, but I think it's...
	Listen to his reason.
	And I mean, you've written that there will be a statue of Farage somewhere.
	I said there should be.
	I simply said that he's one of the most significant post-World War II politicians in this country, probably one of the two or three most.
	You know, this fellow who started with, I remember him 20 years ago, this sort of lunatic in a posh coat, you know, and a trilby hat.
	Handing pamphlets to commuters at railway stations.
	That's how he began.
	And he's ended up by changing British history.
	Now, that's an amazing thing to do.
	There will be, there should be, a statue to him.
	But he'll never be forgiven by elites, presumably.
	Well, he'll continue to, of course.
	History makes different conclusions eventually.
	Because part of that Brexit vote then became, of course, certainly on the eve of the Brexit vote, was the entire British economy will be destroyed almost instantaneously.
	Now, there has been massive rises in homelessness.
	We've seen NHS strikes.
	We've seen all sorts of impacts on social justice that have been talked about.
	But in pure numbers, apart from the devaluation of the pound, which is good for British exporters, things don't seem that bad.
	I don't see the strikes.
	I don't relate those to Brexit.
	It may be...
	You do, but I don't.
	I don't see this much.
	Social justice issues are perennial.
	They don't have much to do with Brexit.
	That was just austerity.
	But then, a lot of the establishment economists, their reputations in tatters after predicting that Britain could only exist as part of the European Union or die.
	Or die.
	Die.
	Yeah, we heard that.
	Yeah, sure we did.
	And last, there's a little mockery of the...
	You know, we have to remember, there's a number of things that people that listen to the show, if you want to understand the international aspects, is that the British Parliament mocked Trump, and we played clips a couple of times on this, to an extreme...
	And they said, we shouldn't even let him into the country.
	That was the debate.
	There was actually a debate in Parliament whether they should ban him from ever entering the country, thinking, of course, that he had no chance of winning and this would be just a good political thing to do.
	And they have banned people.
	The radio talk show host, Michael Savage.
	Michael Savage, yeah.
	Michael Savage has been banned from England for hate speech.
	So this is the last one, which is kind of mocking the British government.
	Of course, Nigel Farage was one of the first senior politicians to greet Donald Trump.
	Will that really be the defining moment of 2017, however 2017 goes when he's inaugurated in general?
	Well, I mean, I think 2017 has a glorious moment.
	Farage meeting Trump, while the British ambassador, some unfortunate bureaucrat called Darragh, can't I can't get anybody to pick up his telephone calls and put all of his money on the State Department and Mrs.
	Clinton.
	And so poor old Derek, this hopeless British ambassador of Washington.
	I mean, he's getting there, sort of twiddling his thumbs.
	Bam!
	Sending back impotent messages back to London.
	How can they make these kinds of mistakes and not prepare for the other side?
	It's a bit like the Brexit thing.
	The British ambassador in Tehran in 1979, there's a character called Sir Anthony Parsons, greatly respected, glowing obituaries, but the fact is he was sending back bulletins right after the last minute with the Shah of Iran.
	He's completely safe.
	In other words, these guys don't understand.
	This has been a year in which all these so-called experts, these ambassadors in these countries and so on, whose job it is to know what's going on, have been completely clueless and blindsided by events.
	This is the very momentous things which are happening.
	Well, he's right about that.
	Yeah.
	It's a beautiful time to be alive and to be broadcasting.
	It's a beautiful time to have the No Agenda show.
	Oh, yeah.
	Because we fly in the face of all the information that everybody else is providing and from people who are being blindsided.
	Yes.
	And that guy you were talking about on the last show shows up now on PBS, David Korn.
	Oh my goodness.
	You got a clip from him?
	I have three little clips.
	Oh, beautiful.
	Korn and Brooks.
	Oh, what happened to the other douche?
	He probably took the day off.
	Now, Corn comes on as the kind of, now both of these guys hate Trump, which doesn't make for a really interesting kind of argument because there's no debate.
	It's just, well, Trump sucks.
	Yeah, he does.
	He sucks.
	He sucks bad.
	He sucks bad.
	He sucks worse than bad.
	He's worse than worse than bad.
	So you have these two guys doing that.
	And they have this, a couple of, this is the, I got three clubs, Corn and Brooks Outrageous Analysis.
	They do not think that Trump should not only not have won the thing, but he's a, both of them kind of imply, Korn for sure.
	Korn goes beyond implying.
	He comes out and pretty much says that Trump is a Russian spy.
	Yeah, yeah, that's the guy.
	That's the guy.
	Ready?
	Yeah, outrageous analysis.
	At the presidential level, which is more or less unprecedented.
	Let's start talking a little bit about Russia.
	Will the sanctions that we've imposed keep the Russian hackers out there?
	No, you know, it's so disproportionate.
	I mean, they interfered in our election, and we, like, penalized a few of them.
	Whatever we're doing underground, we don't know.
	No, this is going to be a big issue.
	And I have to say that the Obama, the Trump position is, A, mystifying, but B, doomed.
	He has a nice little Putin bromance going on right now.
	I think...
	Anyone who says bromance should just be beat to death.
	Now, what's interesting about him when he brings a bromance, he makes this dire prediction, which is so off the rails, with absolutely zero foundation.
	It's unbelievable to me.
	Mystifying, but be doomed.
	He has a nice little Putin bromance going on right now.
	I think we're going to get out the hankies because this is going to turn into an ugly relationship within a year or two.
	The things that make them similar, their machismo, their expansionary, braggadocio...
	Is going to turn them, I think, into bitter and dangerous enemies.
	Yeah, braggadocio.
	Isn't it braggadocious?
	Is he Italian now?
	I think his pronunciation is correct.
	But braggadocio expansionism, he says.
	Back it up a little bit.
	What expansionism are we talking about?
	The Russians doing that phony baloney little election in Crimea and just pretty much taking over the place?
	I mean, because they needed it because it's their base or that area?
	Yeah.
	That's it.
	What other expansion are they doing?
	I mean, we are, for sure.
	But it's not even us, it's NATO. And so what is, I don't even know what he's talking about.
	I have an interesting clip, but it won't be ready until Thursday because we have a number of Russian speakers.
	And I've basically recruited Sir Gene.
	I said, look, I need you to do translated voice of Vladimir Putin when he's saying really important things.
	And he did it for me, but I said, I need more Boris and Natasha, so he's going to work on that.
	So we'll finally have clips that we can actually hear what he's saying, because he was all about all the bases that the U.S. has versus what Russia is doing.
	Very interesting.
	So that's coming.
	That's coming.
	But yeah, expansionism, please.
	Their machismo, their expansionary braggadocio is going to turn them, I think, into bitter and dangerous enemies.
	We will look back on this moment where we thought Putin and Trump were so close.
	Let me hear that again.
	This is my feeling.
	This is my feeling that this is going to happen.
	Let me hear what he said.
	This is great.
	...each other's worst tendencies, and putting the two countries in some sort of scary position, that's just my feel of how things are going to go in the next year.
	This is my feeling because I'm an expert.
	Best case scenario.
	I mean, I don't necessarily see it going that way.
	I still am mystified, to use your word, about why Trump is out there tweeting the praise of Vladimir Putin these days and still kind of denying and dismissing whether the hacking happened or the seriousness of it.
	And people out there keep asking, what is behind this bromance?
	Before the election, I reported on a story about a counterintelligence officer from another service sending reports to the FBI saying that his sources in Russia were saying that Moscow tried for years to cultivate and co-opt Donald Trump.
	I'm not saying that happened.
	I'm saying that I hope the FBI... Then what are you saying?
	Because it really is hard to believe That a president-elect would be so callous in how he approaches this issue and so dismissive of the seriousness of it.
	And so maybe he'll turn on Putin, as you suggest, but maybe there's something else there in which he is enamored with Putin for some reason that we don't really understand yet.
	Oh, my goodness.
	This is so tiring.
	And he also makes this, the way he presents it is, oh, he talked to a counterintelligence officer, quote, from another service.
	Now, what does he mean by another service?
	We don't have any services discussed.
	No.
	In other words, there's no discussion.
	It's not like they were talking about the CIA, then he says, I talked to somebody from another service.
	They didn't do that.
	They weren't talking about the CIA, the NSA, anything.
	He just throws in another service.
	What does that mean?
	The spy.
	And again, I'll say it, when you brought this clip up before, I mean, this wasn't this same clip, but it was the clip that this Korn guy said before.
	Nobody's allowed to talk to him that way.
	He's talking to a traitor.
	Yeah.
	Yes, you can't do that.
	Of course not.
	This is David Korn, man.
	The guy said...
	Cornholio.
	It's his new name.
	David Cornholio.
	So here's Korn and Brooks.
	This is the wrap.
	They go in to say, well, is this all about, is this complaining delegitimizing?
	I can't even say it.
	Delegitimizing.
	That's it.
	Yes.
	Trump's election.
	And Korn's all in on this idea.
	No, not as much as he should be delegitimized.
	The president-elect's position that we've got to move on.
	These are all essentially ploys to try to delegitimize my wins.
	Well, I think he should be delegitimized for many reasons.
	Why?
	Well, there's many reasons.
	Don't ask questions.
	The guy's elected.
	He should be delegitimized, he says.
	Just be quiet.
	He should be delegitimized for many reasons.
	And his response to this hacking is also cause for delegitimization.
	But to say we should move on when the bedrock of American democracy, the sanctity of our elections, has been messed with, He just raises suspicions.
	It would be so easy for him to say the obvious thing.
	This is terrible.
	We're going to look into it, and we're going to try to prevent this from happening again in the future.
	But his denial of it happening or its seriousness shows that there's something really amiss from his end of it.
	No, he's just not on board with your program, which is bullcrap.
	You know what I find fascinating, and we'll get into it in a moment.
	I know you have one more wrap-up here.
	When Slashdot and Hacker News and other, I would say, reasonably respectable publications have gone through this joint assessment report and said, there's no proof there.
	Where are all of my dudes named Ben who hate Trump, let's put it that way, where they were Hillary supporters or Bernie bros or whatever?
	Where are they?
	I'm looking on the face bag.
	I know people who hate Trump and who are very, very skilled.
	They're not saying anything.
	That's pathetic.
	It is pathetic.
	Because it's so obvious.
	This whole issue should be dropped.
	A cheap fishing expedition.
	Well, you know what I have?
	I don't know if you got a copy of it.
	One of our producers...
	I'm allowed to mention his code name, Sir Crash EMT, was on the open phone call with DHS, FBI, and other cyber communities where they briefed everyone on the joint analysis report.
	And he gave us a whole rundown, which I'd like to do.
	But let's play your last clip first.
	The last clip is just the kicker.
	It's kind of a humorous thing.
	I cut it off where it should be cut off.
	This is Brooke's David Brooks, what happens in that conversation with intelligence officials that Donald Trump said he is going to take in order to get to the bottom of this or get to a common set of facts?
	It's already a fairly tense relationship with the intelligence community.
	Of course I don't know what's going on.
	Of course I don't really know what's going on.
	If you're blue and you don't know where there's fake news, why don't you get your Gitmo fix?
	Putin on the rest.
	That's right, everybody.
	Putin!
	Putin!
	So, of course, I read the report for everybody.
	I'm sure everybody read it.
	It wasn't all that big.
	This is the initial report, the joint analysis report from the cyber communities.
	And I would like to give a little rundown.
	Apparently, there will be audio, which may be interesting to cut up.
	But our producer was on the call.
	And he says the briefing started off with the same disclaimer as the joint analysis report itself, which of course I saw immediately at the top of this report in a big banner.
	I think people don't see that.
	Maybe because of banner ads we gloss over that?
	I mean, when a report starts off like this, and they called it as well, with the following terms, this report is provided as is for informational purposes only.
	The Department of Homeland Security does not provide any warranties of any kind regarding any information contained within.
	DHS does not endorse any commercial product or service reference in this advisory or otherwise.
	So they're saying they don't even warrant the information in their own report.
	Right.
	You can stop right there.
	Done.
	At the top of the report?
	Why is no one mentioning that?
	Actually, most of the news outlets have...
	Oh, they did?
	Okay.
	I missed it.
	But they did it in an offhanded way that, again, we've talked about this on the show before, the way you present makes a big difference, and you present it in a way that it's light.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	So, point two from our producer.
	They referenced the integrity of voting systems once, but provided absolutely no evidence or statements that voting anywhere in the U.S. was compromised, like the Democratic National Committee, the Hillary and other companions, think tanks, university, etc.
	None of those were in any spear-fishing attacks.
	Grizzly Step...
	That's a code name.
	A 100% spear phishing campaign, according to this briefing that our producer received, created and created insider threats in these organizations who entered their username and passwords on a form from a fake email.
	We know this.
	So just some details.
	All the landing pages were made to look like Gmail and Yahoo landing pages.
	All attacks were persisted from Yahoo and Skype domains.
	Interesting.
	Skype.
	Hello Microsoft.
	The attackers mingled their traffic from sources that are legitimate business so as to deter blacklisting.
	To that fact, FBI and DHS experts stated openly on the phone call not to blacklist these domains in response to the attacks.
	Really?
	Please don't blacklist these domains.
	DHS re-emphasized there was no attack on voting systems.
	DHS and FBI declassified the signatures for specific antivirus companies.
	They wouldn't say whom, but the signatures will eventually be made public.
	And then they went through the...
	That was what most of the report was, a recommendation to the IT security community.
	So watch for false positives.
	Use detection.
	Watch your firewall logs.
	Uh-huh.
	Let me see what else we have.
	DHS FBI emphasized in their native advertising moment of the call that you should ask your cyber vendor the following things.
	If they back up your essential data regularly, if they conduct risk analysis on your systems, how they train their staff and yours to prevent phishing and other scams, and implementing patterns for vulnerability patching and scanning.
	Ugh.
	Jeez.
	Practice application whitelisting methods, perform a practice notification tree for when a problem is detected.
	You kind of get in the idea that this was more about how to not get spear phished and how to hire the right cyber vendor, I guess.
	And the only, only, only thing they have is the spear phishing.
	That's all.
	And this was actually...
	Which can be done by anybody.
	Yeah, it was kind of brought up in a funny way by...
	I think he's a former Trump advisor, Steve Cortez.
	He was on with Chris Hayes.
	Always funny to listen to Chris Hayes get butt slammed.
	Listen to this.
	Podesta was not hacked.
	He gave into a phishing scheme, which, by the way, was as juvenile as the emails that we all receive about a Nigerian prince.
	You think it was his fault?
	Yes!
	Who falls for that?
	What kind of a senile grandfather falls for that sort of...
	You believe John Podesta is a senile grandfather because he was the victim of a phishing attack?
	Yes, but here's the more important point, too.
	What we keep talking about is I don't know who did the hacking of the DNC. Podesta was not hacked.
	He fell for his scheme.
	The DNC was hacked.
	That is clear.
	Who did it?
	I don't know.
	What we do know, though, is what was revealed by the hack.
	And what was revealed was...
	A Democratic Party that was corrupt to its core, particularly when it involved their primary and Bernie Sanders.
	And the more the American people learned about the Democratic Party, and the more they learned about Hillary Clinton, the less they liked and trusted them.
	And it's one of the reasons they won.
	And the Washington Post even had to, they do this a lot now, they keep having to append their reporting.
	And the most recent report was, and this was really fake news.
	This was unbelievable.
	That, oh, the Russians are trying to hack the grid!
	They're trying to get in!
	They're trying to hack the grid!
	With, check it out, my favorite, with outdated Ukrainian malware...
	And as it turns out, the malware was on a laptop that was not, nor had it ever been connected to the grid system at all.
	Is it the Vermont hack?
	Yeah, it's the Vermont hack.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Total bullcrap.
	What an eye roller that was.
	And they had to amend that story as well.
	Let me read you their amendment.
	I want to ask you a question about that.
	Your editor's note, an earlier version of this story incorrectly said that Russian hackers had penetrated the U.S. electric grid, Washington Post.
	Authorities say there's no indication of that so far.
	The computer at Burlington Electric that was hacked was not attached to the grid.
	And hacked is a big word because picking up some malware can happen from a number of ways.
	Yeah, and this guy just said his laptop was infected.
	I mean, it's like...
	As someone who's been in the business, when a newspaper such as the Washington Post, not once, not twice, but really multiple times in the same story, has to have an editor's note put on a postscript, how does that seem journalistically?
	Is that, oh, you did a great job, or is it you sucked the first time?
	How is that viewed?
	Well, this is interesting because this is a new development.
	And when I was doing the show Cranky Geeks...
	Great show.
	It was.
	It was a great show.
	I'd have these editors on from big newspapers and elsewhere or journalists, professors and whatever.
	And I'd ask about this because I had this...
	My thinking was you should just do slipstream changes.
	Just change the article itself?
	Yeah, just change the article because this is not a newspaper that's printed and you're stuck with it because it's in print and then you have to make a correction the next day or the next edition.
	You can change the next edition sometimes, but generally speaking, you always want to put a little note on there, a correction.
	Or you put the note someplace else in the paper, which they like to do sometimes, that mentions that this was corrected, so in case somebody pulls the original up and says, this is terrible, and you say, no, no, no, we corrected it, and then there's the evidence of the correction.
	Now, with real-time news gathering and reporting, which I consider the internet to be, I just don't see why you just don't change it in the article, make sure the article's fluid.
	So I got into a lot of arguments about this because nobody, it turns out nobody accepts this idea of mine, which is that it's a different medium and so you treat it differently.
	So what they like to do is they like to go back as though it was in print.
	And I can see what they're thinking.
	So they see as if it was in print, and it can't be changed because it's in print, so you have to make these corrections at the end of the article.
	So the articles start to collect corrections because there's another problem that evolves, which is that they rush these things out because, you know, you got to, you can.
	With a newspaper, it goes through a series of processes before it actually gets to the printer.
	Right.
	But you don't do that anymore.
	So they make a lot more mistakes than they used to.
	But they document the mistakes in these, ed, note, ed, note, correction, correction, correction.
	And sometimes it can be longer than the article.
	And that's where we stand right now, is that, yes, those will be there until somebody changes their mind about how they do it.
	I like your idea, and I remember that that was kind of what everyone wanted to do with blogs when they first came out, but then there was this backlash.
	Oh, you can't do that!
	There's a lot of things that people would bitch and moan about that just went by the wayside.
	I remember with lifting images.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	You're deep linking.
	You're linking to the image.
	You're stealing content.
	Well...
	You're stealing content, and then the big argument was you're stealing bandwidth.
	Oh, yeah, I remember.
	You're stealing bandwidth.
	Yeah, of course.
	And then bandwidth got so cheap that you're stealing bandwidth.
	How much is it costing you exactly?
	You're so right.
	Well, I will say that, man, this must have been 2003 or something.
	I think Slash Dot was already around, and you got Slash Dotted.
	You know, slash dot point into your web server, you were going down.
	But a lot of people said, man, they're stealing my bandwidth.
	There's two things that were going on with the arguments about the blogs and the images.
	One, the images, the way I always saw it, and it was another argument that I'd get into with a lot of journalists and others.
	If you've got a blog and there's an image that's attached to USA Today, it's on their server, and it's a picture of a hurricane.
	And you want to talk about the hurricane.
	You'd link to that image.
	Right.
	And you say, the hurricane is terrible.
	The image is on their servers, on USA Today's server.
	There's no doubt about who owns the image.
	All you're doing is linking to it.
	Other people say, no, no, you're stealing their bandwidth.
	Well, the only other alternative, if you want to use that image, you could steal the image and put it on your server, but now you've actually literally, and I mean that, stolen the image.
	Yeah.
	When you're just linking to a link, it's just a link just happens to bring up an image when it when you're looking at it.
	There's nothing's being stolen.
	It's just somebody else's image on somebody else's page.
	And then they tried to make this argument about stealing bandwidth.
	This stuff's been up in the air since the early days of framing.
	And that actually went to court.
	When people would put a frame, because there's a frame function that you could have, you could frame a whole webpage.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, frame, yeah, sure.
	And in the frames, you could put advertising.
	That's right.
	That was the guys who started doing that got sued, and nobody would back them up, and so they actually lost that suit.
	So framing actually became illegal.
	Ah, good times, man.
	This is the days when we still had the blink tag.
	These were good times.
	So everyone's jumping on this hack bandwagon.
	Here's a shill from the Chertoff group.
	About the Russian hack?
	Paul Rosenzweig is a Homeland Security consultant.
	He joined me from Chicago a short time ago.
	I began by asking him for his thoughts on the future of cyber conflict.
	I think that we're coming to a changed world where there's going to be a great deal more uncertainty.
	There's a pervasiveness to cyber vulnerability that goes across all dimensions of Western society these days.
	And security services will never be able to say...
	With any certainty at all that all of Britain's secrets, all of America's secrets, all of our infrastructure, all of our political system is protected against attack.
	We're just never going to get to that place.
	Yes, we can.
	So what does that mean for individuals?
	Take it off the internet.
	That's an idea.
	You got secrets?
	Take them off.
	What are they doing on the internet in the first place if they're secrets?
	How about this?
	Encryption.
	Ever hear of it?
	It's real easy to do.
	So what does that mean for individual nations then?
	Does this mean that all our children need to start coding from a young age?
	Realistically, what do we usually do?
	Well, twofold.
	First, there's a great deal more that we can do in terms of education, in terms of developing the capabilities within the nation.
	The other portion of this, of course, is do better at doing the simple things.
	I mean, fundamentally, we're in the place we are right now with respect to the U.S. elections because the IT manager for the Democratic National Committee disregarded some pretty clear signals and they wound up getting hacked.
	That was a solvable problem.
	That doesn't mean the Russians are absolved from responsibility, but it does mean that if you don't have the good sense to lock your door, some of the blame is on you.
	Of course, they blame the poor dude named Ben, who apparently was a victim of autocorrect.
	Oh, that's the Podesta thing.
	Yeah, that's a very funny story.
	It said legitimate email, and he said, I typed illegitimate, but it must have auto-corrected.
	That's the new excuse.
	That's a good one, though.
	I like it.
	Here's Good Morning America.
	Remember, again, the report that was released has no proof Yes, there was a spear phishing.
	Nope.
	No proof it was Russia.
	Zero proof.
	It's just not in there.
	Go look at slash dot.
	Go look at, you know, go look at, uh, what's the other, uh, hacker news.
	They've looked at it.
	Don't take my word for it.
	But, of course, Good Morning America is all in.
	Matt, what do you think?
	Do you think these sanctions go far enough, and do you think a President Trump is just going to roll them back anyway?
	Well, I think we don't know that.
	In 22 days, he'll take office, and we'll see what he does.
	I was thinking this morning, Dan, about how we've lost so many stars from the 1980s in the course of 2016, and now we have a President-elect who's burying the foreign policy of Ronald Reagan, who called Russia and the Soviet Union an evil empire, and And he's basically saying, we're done with that.
	It's time to move on.
	I find it fascinating that Donald Trump said it's time to move on from a cyber war.
	Hold on, stop a second.
	First of all, Reagan said that during the era of the Soviet Union.
	He was talking about the Soviet Union, not Russia.
	Thank you.
	And if you want to also remember something, a bromance that was going on between George Bush, George W. Bush, and Putin.
	They were buddies that used to hang out at the ranch.
	And so that's a possibility.
	That can still happen.
	So this is bullcrap.
	This is bad reporting.
	This is twisting history.
	It really irks me.
	I know.
	Empire.
	And he's basically...
	And by the way, that's why I play these clips.
	Because your response is just gold.
	Russia and the Soviet Union, an evil empire.
	And he's basically saying, we're done with that.
	It's time to move on.
	I find it fascinating that Donald Trump says it's time to move on from a cyber war, an act of cyber war with Russia.
	Cyber war.
	But he actually can't move on from a bad restaurant review or not winning an Emmy Award for Apprentice.
	It's an amazing situation.
	What?
	Oh, yeah.
	Now the guy's just completely confused.
	Who is this guy?
	Dowd.
	Dowd something.
	Dowd.
	Dowd.
	He's on GMA. Good morning, America?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So, he said two things there, cyber war, and hacked the election, of course.
	Now, this, the true kicker, short clip, from NBC, NBC News, Hans Nichols, he really takes the cake when it comes to proof that Russia did this.
	It was obvious proof.
	Here at the Russian embassy in Washington, they retweeted Trump's praise for Putin.
	But a U.S. official tells NBC News that Putin's decision not to retaliate may in fact be an acknowledgement that they crossed the line.
	Oh, please.
	I heard that, too.
	How are we going to spin this one?
	Hey, he didn't admit it.
	Guilty!
	Okay, here's the...
	I have the...
	Now, you played the short clip.
	I want to play the long version.
	This is the complete NBC, again, NBC, rundown of the kicking Russia out of...
	And I want to...
	Before we play this, they're talking about especially these two properties that the Russians own.
	One of them bought by the Soviet Union, I guess, in the 70s and one more recently.
	Yes, I'd like to know a little bit about these properties and what the deal is with them.
	Well, there's a couple of things.
	They own them, but they were confiscated by the State Department.
	And I'd like to know why no reporter...
	Do they do that under a domain?
	How do they do that?
	How do you confiscate?
	Hello?
	Why isn't some reporter in one of these news conferences that have access to these blowhards asking that specific question?
	Even RT doesn't ask it, because I think they don't know what property rights are.
	I was unaware that they actually confiscated them.
	They kicked everybody out, and in this report they say they confiscated them.
	Now, I want to say a little aside here before you play this, because this is long.
	You're going to interrupt it.
	Is that I think, personally, because they know Trump's going to just say, you guys get back, you can go move back into these places.
	Oh, wait, don't say it.
	I know exactly what you're going to say.
	They're bugging the place.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	They're wiring that crap up from top to bottom.
	They're taking the old bugs out, the old crappy bugs, which probably had been already caught and figured out, painted over.
	And they're putting in the new high-tech bugs that the Russians will never find!
	What else?
	Yeah, I mean, when you said it, I'm like, oh, of course.
	Makes nothing but sense.
	All right, I'm intrigued.
	Tonight, President-elect Trump tweeting more praise for Vladimir Putin after Putin's unexpected move not to expel any U.S. diplomats from Russia.
	Putin holding fire after President Obama ordered 35 suspected spies.
	Hold on, holding fire?
	What kind of terminology is that?
	There's a bunch of little ditties.
	They're putting things in a certain way to make it sound like wartime.
	And I've noticed this, especially with NBC, they're doing this a lot.
	These crazy little phrases and things that make it sound more ominous and crazy.
	We're in a state of war.
	I wish somebody would explain to me what the deal is about this hate toward Russia.
	I've got a whole thing here.
	You remember how it started.
	Okay.
	It started with the gays.
	And once the gays were told that Russia...
	And I'll put it in the show notes.
	We did a whole white paper with Brian the gay crusader that this was bull crap.
	It was really only meant to levy fees on Western media.
	But it started with the gays.
	And if you look at the percentage of gays in mainstream media, I would say that they have been tainted from day one.
	And this is what now?
	Three years ago?
	Four years ago when that started?
	Yeah.
	It begs the question, what is the deal?
	Why do we have to hate the Russians?
	And John McCain and Lindsey Graham are part of this.
	The neocons are part of this.
	They're pushing this agenda of hating the Russians.
	But what did the Russians do besides write some gay law?
	Go ahead, say it.
	What?
	You know what they did.
	What?
	Come on.
	You're going to make me say it?
	Yeah.
	Snowden!
	Ah, exactly.
	I gave you every opportunity.
	It's your bid.
	I'll let you say it this time.
	U.S. diplomats from Russia.
	Putin holding fire after President Obama ordered 35 suspected spies out of America and sanctioned top Russian officials for hacks aimed at influencing the election.
	Putin writing, we will not create any problems for U.S. diplomats, but insisting that we are keeping the right to retaliate.
	Trump's response?
	Great move on delay by V. Putin.
	I always knew he was very smart.
	Putin's decision?
	Surprising some administration officials.
	And coming just moments after his own foreign minister publicly called for American diplomats to be kicked out.
	But the former KGB colonel, instead personally inviting the diplomats...
	Wait a minute, KGB colonel?
	What, what, what, what, what?
	Don't forget, the KGB was disbanded in 1991.
	Yeah.
	1991.
	And instead of calling him the president of Russia, which is what he is, they call him, this is NBC again, they use the former KGB colonel.
	What has that got to do with the story?
	It's all implications.
	This is the greatest example of propagandistic style of reporting.
	And NBC reeks of it.
	And we interrupt these clips frequently, and people are wondering sometimes why.
	But this is why.
	The words matter.
	The words that are used have been controlling...
	They use it to twist your thinking, exactly.
	Yeah, and it's quite effective.
	I think so.
	Why these guys do that, I mean, do you think this guy actually sits down and writes his own script?
	Yes, but I, you know, I'd like to know how many editors there are at this level of the news at NBC, because this is the highest of the highest.
	This is the top of the top, cream of the crop.
	How many people sit there, and I think they do this on purpose, obviously, that's in the script, but Are they doing it to manipulate the listener?
	I'm actually, as a writer who writes to manipulate readers, because that's what you do.
	You try to convince them that your position is correct.
	And why do you do that?
	Because you have a position on something that you see what you believe is righteous.
	But you're an essayist.
	These guys are reporters.
	Yes, as an essayist or an opinion writer...
	My job is to push an opinion or an idea.
	The reporters are supposed to be neutral.
	We'll get to another clip I have later.
	How that's not working out.
	These guys are...
	Supposed to be reporting on a neutral basis, but they're slanting their coverage, which I think is completely illegitimate, which is what we point out on this show to show people that you're not getting a good product from these folks.
	It is anything but an outstanding product.
	It is inferior, in fact.
	But the former KGB colonel, instead personally inviting the diplomat's children to a New Year's Eve celebration.
	NBC's Lucy Kavanaugh is in Moscow.
	The holiday parties that the American children were invited to will take place behind me at the Kremlin Palace.
	The move comes as Putin's spokesmen seem to dismiss President Obama's actions, saying in three weeks there will be a new American president.
	But Trump's move today?
	Not as surprising as Putin's.
	Despite assessments by 17 intelligence agencies that Russia was behind the hack, the president-elect has never been convinced Russia was to blame.
	It could be somebody sitting in a bed someplace.
	Trump has said he'll meet with the intel community to see the fresh evidence against Russia.
	But his approach carries risks.
	Now, I would hope that he wouldn't give away the farm just for a good photo op.
	We have real concrete interests that need to be pursued with Russia.
	And here at the Russian embassy in Washington, they retweeted Trump's praise for Putin.
	But a U.S. official tells NBC News that Putin's decision not to retaliate may, in fact, be an acknowledgement that they crossed the line.
	Hans Nichols reporting in Washington tonight.
	As part of the punishments leveled at Russia, the U.S. today closed down two exclusive properties used by the Russians here in the States.
	The U.S. government believes those sites may have been involved in espionage.
	Tonight, NBC's Gabe Gutierrez has an inside look at...
	Stop, stop, stop.
	Back it up a little bit, because I want to reemphasize, may have been involved in espionage with what comes later in the report.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Which is like, you know, they dropped this little bomb in there.
	This may be involved in espionage.
	They're vacation homes.
	Yeah.
	And they're big mansions for parties.
	It's a party house is what it is.
	Pride house like.
	And they bring that up.
	But now they've dropped a little espionage thing in there so you can go, oh, they may have been involved in espionage.
	Oh, really?
	And also a lot of the reporting that went into the newspapers, with these stories about this, they also brought up some stories about some Russian gang criminals that were arrested to try to make you associate the two.
	They had nothing to do with either one.
	There was just a complete dissociation.
	I don't know who they're trying to kid, but okay.
	Punishments leveled at Russia.
	The U.S. today closed down two exclusive properties used by the Russians here in the States.
	The U.S. government believes those sites may have been involved in espionage.
	Tonight, NBC's Gabe Gutierrez has an inside look at these compounds that have stood in plain sight for decades.
	Today, outside this compound in Maryland, a rush to pack up and get out.
	A day after the U.S. said it was shutting down the home and another one on New York's Long Island as part of its retaliation against Russia.
	The Obama administration has not detailed what type of intelligence gathering took place in these buildings, but a senior intelligence official tells NBC News the properties were not part of the cyber campaign against the U.S. Instead, they were secure facilities where the Russians could hold secret meetings.
	They've been quiet neighbors.
	Across the bay from Washington, the Maryland compound is just 63 miles from the White House and near NSA headquarters.
	These pictures from inside show massive dining rooms and luxurious lounges.
	A sprawling 45-acre estate known for diplomatic parties.
	Have you ever seen the green zone in Iraq?
	Where the vodka flowed, closing the compounds now perhaps more symbolic than operational.
	It's possible that this is more of just sort of sending a message, almost an annoyance to the Russians, saying, look, you have these nice facilities and we are no longer going to give you access to them.
	The properties were on U.S. officials' radar for decades, but he's in the Reagan administration at the height of the Cold War.
	Let them stay.
	If we went and arrested every single person that we suspected to be a spy and kicked them out of the country, they would do the same to us.
	Tonight, the two Russian retreats, now under the control of the U.S. State Department.
	You're right.
	Gabe Gutierrez, NBC News.
	Under control.
	Okay.
	So I don't know, it sounds like they've confiscated property, real property that somebody owned, and I find that weird.
	But they also, notice the way their terminology, again on NBC, all loaded words, instead of being an estate or a mansion or whatever you want to call it, they call them compounds.
	And it's only 63 miles from the White House.
	What does that mean?
	It's like from here to Sacramento.
	I mean, it's not even close.
	From here, like the Berkeley area, to San Jose, it takes me 45 minutes to drive there.
	That's only 40 miles away.
	I mean, it's not even anywhere near the White House, is what they should say.
	That's crazy.
	I find it extremely offensive to get these reports, and you know the public's lapping it up.
	Oh, God.
	Well, I was very happy to see Matt Taibbi, finally.
	Well, he finally got irked, I guess, and had to come out against this crap, too.
	He's like a huge Hillary supporter.
	Rolling Stone magazine headline, something about this Russia story stinks, he says.
	But here's what was interesting about his story.
	This dramatic story puts the news media in a jackpot.
	Absent independent verification, reporters will have to rely upon the secret assessments of intelligent agencies to cover the story at all.
	Many reporters I know are quietly freaking out about having to go through that again because we all remember the WMD fiasco.
	It's deja vu all over again, as one friend put it.
	That, and I wouldn't have minded him saying which reporters were freaking out about that, but yes, this is what, I mean, when Trump says this, he says, hey, we heard this, the WMD from the same people, then it was, oh, you douche!
	Pretty much, I mean, that's kind of the response, douche.
	I have this clip, and I'm not absolutely sure, and it's all misspelled.
	You might want to play it.
	Yeah, that's a shocker.
	It says, Me Doha lies about Russia's sanctions.
	Fabulous.
	Let's play that.
	Well, despite all that, some U.S. media outlets were quick to report that Russia had already retaliated before any official statement was made.
	Russia's foreign ministry spokeswoman gave a strong response to the misinformation.
	Russia now vowing to issue its own response to U.S. sanctions and has already ordered the American School of Moscow to close.
	That is a lie.
	And there is no need to say that Moscow denied or Moscow will not.
	Just say it how it is.
	CNN and other Western media outlets basing their reporting on official U.S. government sources have spread false information.
	You know, from our spies in the military intelligence, they were sending jokes around like, yeah, yeah, no, the Russians have to leave.
	They'll be back on January 21st is kind of the joke.
	Yeah, probably.
	Day after the inauguration.
	Oh, by the way, March 11th, I've been invited to go to D.C., For the 100th birthday celebration of Lieutenant Colonel James Majelis.
	I don't know who that is.
	Yeah, he's from the 82nd Airborne.
	He fought the Battle of the Bulge.
	Battle of the Bulge, the guy's still alive?
	Yeah, he's 100.
	He's going to turn 100 years old.
	And I've been invited to the celebration, and it's going to be spook heaven.
	Flynn's going to be there.
	Petraeus is going to be there.
	Tons of spooks.
	In fact, I've asked if I wanted to ask Uncle Don if he wanted to come along.
	What?
	Yeah.
	That's very funny.
	Well, apparently there's guys there who ran CIA stations in Panama and around the time when Don was involved in Iran-Contra.
	So how did you get invited to this shindig?
	Is anyone going to look around and say, what's this guy doing here?
	Well, that's why I'm taking Tina.
	Who cares?
	They're allowed to stay.
	Well, our guy knows that it'll be fun.
	We'll have material.
	Oh, I'm sure there'll be some.
	Maybe.
	You never know.
	Some of these guys aren't as talkative as you'd hope.
	Well, the casual conversations, though, because they have casual conversations, these guys, might be interesting to eavesdrop on.
	Well, I'm very excited about it.
	And the same guy told me that the invitations have still not been sent out, but there is still a possibility I'll get an invite to the inauguration.
	Well, I hope you do.
	Oh, man, that would be so much fun for the show.
	Well, I, you know, personally...
	I'm guessing that the spook heaven would be more interesting for the show than the inauguration, which would just be a madhouse.
	I agree, which is why I mentioned it first off.
	But, you know, we'll see.
	We do have a lot of spooks that listen to the show.
	It's possible one of them...
	Wait a minute.
	Hey, check them, Jay!
	Uninvite this guy now!
	Take him off the list!
	No!
	I'm sorry, you're not on the list.
	No, I think in general...
	How do you spell that again?
	Could it be C-O-R-R-Y? I think in general, people who have listened to us for a while and are in armed services, regardless of which country, they seem to like the show.
	And they seem to appreciate what we've done in the past.
	You know, highlighting issues that our military has.
	Well, they have to have a source of real analysis that's not...
	Colored by the bull crap that these guys in these big networks have to do or do because they want to do.
	I don't know.
	You were mentioning earlier about how these guys do some of this stuff on purpose or not.
	I have a clip, which is on RT. They were slamming Christina Anandpour.
	FUD SLAM! You douchebag.
	You want me to tell you when you're using that word?
	What?
	Slamming.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But sometimes it's to trigger that cool thing.
	This RT report on truth in journalism I thought was actually pretty good.
	...for raising the minimum wage and against globalization.
	They call Merkel a leftist, yet she championed austerity and privatization.
	Not so long ago, being wary of immigration was considered perfectly normal.
	Now, that makes you a far-right nutcase.
	The European community qualifies as populist, everybody who doesn't agree with it.
	But political polarity is not all that's changed.
	2016 is the year that journalism fell into a death spiral.
	So I now say, truthful, not neutral.
	There's a difference.
	Yes.
	Truthful is bringing the truth.
	Neutral can be creating a false equivalence between...
	Here are two examples of truth.
	An aggressive pit bull attacked its owner.
	That's absolutely true.
	It did.
	Now, here's another truth.
	The owner was cruel and regularly beat the dog.
	That's also true.
	And it's the other side of the story.
	It changes the narrative.
	Telling both is what makes journalism.
	Now, here's the kicker.
	What Christian Amampo is telling you, what CNN is telling you, is that You don't need to hear both sides of the story.
	They will choose the version, the truth, you need to hear.
	And I really want you to know that I go out of my way to bring you the truth.
	And if you want to know what's in store, look at the media's coverage of the U.S. election, acclaimed as the most biased and one-sided in recent history.
	But then again, the world is changing.
	Yes.
	Now, that's an interesting thing she said when she said the problem with the neutral thing where you're supposed to just present information and let people kind of put it together themselves instead of you doing it for them.
	Right.
	And it creates a so-called false equivalency.
	Yeah.
	This argument is specious.
	It's bullcrap.
	It's nonsense.
	But it sounds good.
	And that audience that clapped for what she had to say was on the Trevor Noah show.
	Oh, of course.
	And so they're all very slanted.
	And as far as they're concerned, you know, Trump's a douchebag and Hillary should be president.
	Now, the false equivalency argument is only in extreme cases.
	It goes like this.
	Uh...
	You're supposed to...
	You report on Hitler from both the pro and con sides.
	So people that are anti-Hitler, you know, Hitler's a jerk and he's a murderer.
	And he's a good family man.
	Hey, we got the Volkswagen.
	And he's a good...
	Yeah, he got the Volkswagen.
	So...
	That is where the false equivalency...
	In other words, you can't...
	There's no good and bad side.
	You can't balance a report on genocide is really the argument.
	Yeah, it doesn't really work.
	You have genocide...
	Okay, well, what's the...
	Let's get someone who's pro-genocide and someone who hates genocide and let's give a report on that.
	That's what she's talking about.
	But in general, the number of stories where you have the false equivalency problem is just minuscule.
	This is bullcrap what she's saying.
	This was...
	Well, she's an elite.
	This is what these people believe.
	It's just this total belief they live in a different universe.
	We share the same Earth, but I don't know.
	Well...
	Actually, that dimension thing that you have is something we have to really emphasize.
	Yeah, the parallel universe, multiple dimensions.
	Yeah.
	Just before we go to a break here, one other thing I was noticing during New Year's Eve, and this must be a huge...
	Disappointment for the cell phone operators.
	Up until about two years ago, maybe even up until last year, New Year's Eve, I'm getting text messages all night long.
	Then it starts around 5 p.m.
	when my friend's in Europe, and it's my sister's birthday on January 1st.
	And you know the Dutch, they congratulate the whole family.
	But it was all SMS text messaging.
	I think I got two last night.
	Everyone else was just posting their New Year's stuff on social media.
	And that was so much money for the cell phone operators at their, you know, 40 or 50 cents a text message.
	And international is crazy.
	I just wonder how much money they're losing or what the upside was before people did this on social media.
	I don't know.
	I'm sure there's disgust with these meetings when they have them.
	And then one other thing, although it kind of belongs in tech news, but I do have a gripe.
	Um, both the Facebook app and Apple iMessage, when you type the words Happy New Year into either the Facebook, uh, if you send someone a message, or into the Apple message system,
	iMessage, the minute you type that and hit return, or the minute someone opens that, the iPhone goes into this, and you see fireworks, and the screen is flashing, and everyone I saw, oh, this is so cool, that's This is not a good idea.
	I don't want Apple adding shit to what I'm sending to people.
	Who knows what they'll add next?
	I don't think this is a good idea.
	You should at least be able to opt out of it.
	I agree.
	This is editorializing.
	And it could trigger people.
	Good.
	You know, with, I don't know, with epilepsy or other things.
	It's quite a lot of flashing.
	But, you know, everyone was, oh, screw Apple, screw YouTube.
	Remember when YouTube slipped their album on to your iTunes?
	Yeah, my favorite.
	But now it's like, oh, this is so cool.
	I don't think it's cool.
	You can put an opt-out or opt-in would be preferable.
	But I'm not on board with this idea.
	I don't think that's good.
	Stop it.
	And with that...
	I'm sure they will pay very careful attention to this critique.
	No, they're too busy trying to fix that stupid MacBook Pro.
	They got no time for anything else.
	With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak with a C stands for...
	Correcting your journalistic goofs is okay.
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning, no boots on the ground, seat in the air, five, the sun, the water, and all the names and nights out there.
	In the morning to everyone in the chatroom, no agenda stream.com.
	Thanks for showing up on this first day of 2017.
	And in the morning to CZM137, he brought us the artwork for episode 890.
	The title of that was Factivist.
	And his image was great.
	Fit perfectly.
	Pouring digital money into a homeless person's cup.
	It was a great piece of art.
	Very nice.
	Yeah, it hit the spot.
	It certainly did.
	Very, very good.
	You can find all of the submissions at noagendaartgenerator.com.
	And, of course, we thank all of the artists for all of their submissions.
	You know, Mark Pugner.
	Did he send something in?
	He sent something in other than suggestions.
	No, I don't have it.
	I think he sent a note in, but besides the one note, I think he sent two notes in, and I don't know where the other one went.
	I'm going to have to read it some other time.
	But he is...
	He sent in one note that just said...
	The information, Mark Pugner, $1,000 in one cent.
	He was at the meetup.
	At the meetup, yeah.
	And he once denied himself as Sir Angel of Pasadena.
	Okay.
	And so that's on the list, and everything's there.
	But he had some other things to say.
	He had some commentary, and I'll get that somehow back, and we'll read it in the future.
	But we want to thank him profusely for his...
	And he also gave his real email address.
	Yeah, I'm going to give him a karma for that because that's very nice.
	Thank you so much.
	Good way to start off the new year.
	You've got karma.
	In the morning, citizens and slaves of Gitmo Nation, please stand and salute Sir David Foley, Grand Duke of the USA. Yeah, he's back!
	Where'd that one come from?
	That's new.
	Yeah, Sir David Foley, the Grand Duke of the USA, 33333.
	It's been great to be back after forced living off the grid.
	One of the first pleasures I've experienced was catching up with the best podcasts in the universe.
	Your news analysis was sorely missed.
	Thank you for your courage and love and peace, whatever I can to earn.
	I know.
	Thank you for your courage and passion.
	And passion.
	Yes.
	And the effort it takes to bring the show every week, twice a week, I need a de-douching and some of that amazing no-agenda karma.
	Yes.
	I'm glad that he's back from the spa.
	So, yes, here's some red tape karma for you, my friend.
	You've got karma.
	Good to have him back.
	Now, uh...
	Nice, nice, nice.
	The Forgotten Jedi, $330.
	And I have the note.
	I have to walk over here to get it.
	Okay.
	Hold on.
	I've got to turn off your noise gate when you do that.
	Okay.
	Are you there?
	I'm back.
	Sorry.
	The notes were in a pile.
	This is one of our donors from the meetup.
	And, of course, I got the note.
	And here's a good example of my...
	Way of doing things.
	As I go to get the notes in a pile...
	Oh, shoot, man.
	I'm sorry.
	I forgot to deduce it.
	You've been dedouched.
	Oops.
	Gotta make sure we do that.
	Okay.
	He's been dedouched.
	Yep.
	The Forgotten Jedi, $330.
	He sends a note on the back of an envelope.
	Literally.
	Now, he was also at the meetup, correct?
	Yes.
	That's why I have a back of an envelope.
	Got it.
	To our guardians of reality, I've been a douchebag for too long.
	Enclosed as a down payment towards knighthood, I've often waited on donating for fear of tracking over the something.
	Well, no longer.
	If they threw me into a camp, so be it.
	Oh, he was...
	Well, we still didn't mention his name.
	He's still this forgotten Jedi.
	But he's one of the paranoid listeners.
	There's a lot of them in Los Angeles, apparently.
	Note.
	Enclosed patches.
	Oh!
	Ah!
	Ah!
	Oh!
	From a group called Nevermind the Name.
	The runes translate to We Few and the Valhalla.
	One for you and one for Adam.
	He dropped off.
	He's a military guy.
	He dropped off a couple of screwy patches.
	I'm going to scan them in and figure out what they mean.
	But they're military patches.
	Yeah.
	And they're Velcroed so that it looks like the type of patch you can put on temporarily.
	Right.
	And then when the brass come along, you tear them off.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, of course.
	And I think it's like, you know, those patches, there's a lot of skull and crossbones and like death stuff.
	Remember the soldiers that were working with the Kurds?
	Yeah, the YPG. Yeah, and they were wearing their gear.
	Oh, yeah, the U.S. guys were wearing the white...
	Was it the U.S. guys wearing YPG? I think so.
	Yeah, the U.S. guys were wearing their stuff, and it was, like, annoying to the Turks.
	Yeah.
	It became an issue.
	So I think there may be something going on like that.
	Oh, cool.
	Scan it in.
	I want to see it for sure.
	Yeah, and you have one.
	I have one to get me, too.
	Excellent.
	Anyway, thanks for that, The Forgotten Jedi.
	Thank you very much for getting The Forgotten Jedi.
	Kevin Strange in Norwich, Norfolk, UK... 265.
	Happy New Year's, fellas.
	Thanks for making 2016 so entertaining and helping me not only keep my sanity, but also develop mad skills to help with our search for the truth.
	This donation pushes me into my New Year knighthood.
	I'd like to be known as Sir S. Is there anything beyond that?
	I think it's Sir Strange, actually.
	But I think the PayPal cut it off.
	Could be.
	Yep.
	Cool.
	Onward to, he's also be associate executive producer for show, what's 291, 391, 890.
	890 or 1.
	Marco Strauss in Ithaca, New York, 219.85.
	And I do not have a note from him.
	Yeah, I did receive a couple of notes.
	Let me see if I got one from him.
	See if I got something.
	Mail.
	Marco Strauss.
	Marco Strauss.
	And negative.
	I have nothing.
	Okay.
	Is it A-U-S? A-U-S. Okay.
	S-T-R-A-U-S. And donation note.
	Show $8.91.
	Apparently those patches are called morale patches.
	Okay.
	Probably for teams.
	Yeah.
	Probably illegal.
	Probably.
	Probably.
	Happy New Year to the two of you.
	Your work on New Year's Day is highly appreciated.
	I hope the show will continue to improve in 2017 and keep providing us a safe space for all the suffering from imbecile media.
	And please get some jobs relationship and green card karma for green card karma for 2017, whatever jingles that might be.
	Thanks a lot and have a great 2017.
	All the best from Ithaca, New York.
	Marco.
	So what did he want?
	He wants jobs, relationship, and green card karma.
	I don't know.
	Which is all the same.
	Yeah.
	Okay, we'll do that.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Okay.
	Um, onward to...
	Oh...
	Come on.
	Tim Gladney.
	And he is $209.11 from Pickering, Ontario, Canada.
	Long, long time boner.
	First time donor.
	Please find the payment donation of $209.11 where 9.11 represents the biggest media hoax of all time.
	9.11.
	Yes.
	Yeah, you're all in on that.
	Which is, you know, I think at this point you could probably make the argument better than you could.
	Wow, with the 28 pages I sure can.
	Yes, 28 pages.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you for putting it out on the weekend.
	Holiday weekend, if I'm not mistaken.
	It's so big I decided to dedicate fakeologist.com To exposing the hoax.
	It's through this site.
	I promote the work of Simon Schack and his groundbreaking 9-11 movie, September Clued.
	I haven't seen this one.
	Some people have been asking.
	For some reason, this is coming back up in the conversation.
	I'm not exactly sure why, but somebody asked the other day, what's the best movie about 9-11?
	And I said, ask Adam.
	He would know.
	This may be it here.
	I'm going to take a look at this one.
	I'm interested.
	I'll take a look.
	Along with Hoi Pelloi, Simon has created cluesforum.info, where psyops such as NASA, JFK, and the nuclear bomb hoax are discussed.
	In other words, we're going to go that far where there's no such thing as an H-bomb?
	Your show is the closest mainstream podcast that implies some of the major revelations.
	A-bomb, not H-bomb.
	A-bomb.
	You said H-bomb, but it would be A-bomb.
	H-bomb is not an A-bomb.
	The H-bomb is triggered by an A-bomb.
	Oh, okay.
	It's an A-bomb.
	All right.
	The fire.
	It won't fire without an A-bomb.
	Okay.
	So, H-bomb.
	Your show is the closest mainstream podcast.
	It implies some of the major revelations on 9-11 and NASA fakery.
	Although I can only hope you'll one day discuss the YouTube documentary September Clues.
	I continue to enjoy your version of media, our version of media deconstruction on a weekly basis, bi-weekly.
	Please dedouchefakeologist.com.
	You've been dedouched.
	And call out douchebags Marcus Allen of Truth7Face.com who interviewed Adam a few years back and introduced me to your show.
	You remember that?
	Nope.
	I don't.
	Also douchebag Cam of Cam Radio.
	Douchebag!
	And Chris Kendall and John Adams of Hoax Busters.
	Hoax Busters Call.com.
	Douchebag!
	Hoax Busters Call.com.
	Please play the following sound effects.
	Can you see the juice?
	Beautiful yum.
	WTC7 won't go away.
	You will obey.
	And oh my god, that is amazing.
	Okay, it's a little bit much.
	But okay, thank you very much.
	We really appreciate you coming in on this first day of 2017.
	Oh my gosh!
	Can you see that juice?
	Beautiful!
	Yes!
	WTC7 won't go away.
	Oh my god, that is amazing!
	You've got karma.
	Oh, there you go.
	You know, I forgot about Beautiful Yum.
	It's a good one.
	Play it again, come on.
	Play it at the end of the show.
	Okay.
	Alright, onward.
	David Hassan, 20170.
	I've been a douchebag for too long.
	If I ever get to be a knight, I'd like to be called Sir something.
	Happy 2017.
	Sir D-bag, I think is what he wants to be called.
	So he's a douchebag, so we'll be a douchebag.
	You've been de-douched.
	Beautiful.
	Sir Christopher Dolan of Brookline, Massachusetts, please give me a shot at karma.
	He came in at $201.02.
	A shot at karma, and thanks for the best podcast in the universe.
	You've got karma.
	Sir Henry of Outpost West, $200.17.
	Thanks for your great contribution to us in 2016.
	No, you will do even more in 2017.
	Have a Happy New Year, Sir Henry of Outpost West.
	Thank you very much, sir.
	Happy New Year to you.
	Okay, now you get the list of the DH Slammer stuff.
	I do.
	DH Slammer, who was at the meetup, dropped off a bunch of, instead of giving an envelope with a donation in it, it has a complex bunch of envelopes with a bunch of different monies in them, adding up to $200.16.
	And so, can you read how we're supposed to deal with this?
	Yeah, okay.
	I'll just read it off.
	Let me see.
	From Baroness Baronettes Dame Bang Bang.
	Boob, $80.08.
	Boys, can we get a double shot of moving karma?
	Love and light.
	We'll do that.
	Another boob donation, 80-08.
	In the morning, gentle Xers enjoy these two fine boobs.
	Can I get Buzzkill's choice lewd jingle combo?
	Thank you for your courage, Sir DH Slammer Baron of the Central California West Coast Ventura to Santa Cruz.
	$20 from 8-year-old, that's Sir Andrew's very own money.
	Crack button buzzkill jingles if you feel generous to a sub $50 night.
	I love bugs, the magic number, and whoa, you got butt slammed.
	Thank you for your courage, Sir Andrew, Knight of the Mountains.
	And also $20 from 11-year-old Lady Simona's own money on my way to Damehood.
	Thank you for your courage, Lady Simona.
	Also included is a wooden postcard.
	Do you have that there?
	Let me see.
	I have the envelope, fill of envelopes.
	Yes, there's a wooden postcard in here.
	Tell us about this wooden postcard.
	It says, it's timber gram.
	It's made of wood.
	You can tell it's wood.
	I'm tapping it.
	And on the other side, it says boobies.
	And it shows a bunch of different birds that are boobies.
	In other words, they got the Peruvian booby, the blue booby, the red-tailed booby.
	There's a bunch of these birds.
	They're like seagulls, only they're boobies.
	Nice, I think.
	I'll mail it to you.
	It's a postcard.
	Okay.
	Let me see if I can get these jingles in here for what everybody wanted, including a little bit of karma.
	So we'll start with this.
	I love bugs!
	Bugs, bugs, bugs!
	Tastes like poop.
	Dirty green.
	That's the magic number.
	Dirty green.
	It's the magic number.
	Whoa!
	You got butt slayer!
	You got her much.
	Alright, thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	And thank you especially to Sir Andrew and Lady Simona.
	How nice.
	Eight and eleven respectively with their own money.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	We got another donation coming up later which I will read from a nine-year-old who donated $140.
	Oh my.
	Yes, Dame Joni Dodifray in Morgantown, West Virginia.
	We haven't heard from her for a while.
	She came in with the $200 even.
	And she says, if this will open, and it won't, I have not gone overboard.
	I still listen to every single show and love you guys.
	Please de-douche me again for not doing my utmost to keep the best podcast in the universe up and running.
	You've been de-douched.
	Thank you for the bi-weekly dose of sanity and making me LOL at the stupid talking media head.
	Seriously shaking my head at the anti-Russia BS that just keeps getting deeper by the day.
	WW3, anyone?
	Hopefully Putin will keep being the adult in the room and sit on his hands, hoping Trump will diffuse the situation after Inauguration Day.
	Scary shit right now, I-M-H-O. Oh, may I please have a Sharpton?
	Resist we much?
	Yes.
	Resist we much.
	And if you can find that old, uh, the old Hummer woman.
	Oh, uh, what's her name?
	Is that Vivian?
	No, no, no.
	This is the woman from the New York Times.
	That Abramson.
	Jill.
	Jill Abramson.
	Yes.
	And let me see.
	I don't know if we...
	Did we call her the Berkeley Hummer?
	I don't know what we called her.
	I thought it was just Jill Abramson.
	But resist we much.
	We must and we will much.
	About that, be committed.
	I was given an indication of why and, you know, publicly.
	But how do you not, an indication, I'm just curious.
	And this is before we called it Vogelfry, we called it the Berkeley Hummer.
	You identified this years ago, years ago.
	Someone is terminating you and saying you no longer have a job.
	Don't they have to sort of tell you specifically or not?
	You know, I was told some specifics, but basically mainly what I was told, and it is completely the privilege of the publisher of the New York Times.
	We all serve at his pleasure to make a change.
	You've got karma.
	Oh, yes, that's painful.
	Painful to listen to.
	Onward.
	Dennis Price in Pine Grove, California.
	$200.
	Happy New Year.
	Thank you, Dennis Price.
	No need to read on the program, but you do track donation amounts.
	Track your own.
	Track your own, please.
	Give him a karma.
	You've got karma.
	Now we have two, these are the two brothers that came to the event in Los Angeles, Beverly Hills.
	Jack Genuso.
	Genuso.
	And his brother...
	Chris?
	Chris.
	So let's see which one we got here.
	Jack sent a...
	They both donated $200 each with separate notes.
	So Jack has some sort of...
	He says it's A4 pieces.
	I can type in...
	It's a type from some old typewriter.
	God knows how old this thing is.
	On an A4 piece of paper.
	Crackpot and Buzzkill, thank you for your timeless efforts, tireless efforts in deconstructing media.
	They are an invaluable source of entertainment and illumination.
	It closes my donation of 200.
	It is my first donation since listening to the show over three years ago.
	I'd like a shot of jobs karma and a de-douching.
	I look forward to the future hilarity in the coming years and hope for more meetups in the time to come.
	Have a happy new year and best wishes.
	I used A4 paper because of its elegance and natural proportional beauty.
	It's not creepy in the least.
	It is creepy.
	It's a creepy...
	Yeah, I've always believed it.
	Let me take care of it.
	You've been deep douched.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	And here's Chris...
	Genuso.
	One of the two.
	It's hard to say.
	Hi, John and Adam.
	Please accept this long overdue donation.
	It's another $200, which would not be possible without the jobs, Carmen.
	Buy a weekly dose of sanity you both provide.
	I make this donation in cash.
	He added $200.
	Thanks to Adam's insightful analysis of the industry, I previously was working in the vape industry, I quickly transitioned my efforts to designing products, branding, and packaging for the cannabis industry.
	Very good.
	Very smart.
	And have been handsomely rewarded, although somewhat ambiguously due to the gray market nature of the industry.
	Having met Adam while in Houston at the vape convention...
	Oh, yes.
	Oh, I remember.
	Sure.
	Yeah, I'm happy that I've been afforded the opportunity to now meet John, the other half.
	Thanks to you both for your hard work and commitment to providing a high-caliber product.
	And have you seen the marijuana stocks?
	There's like three or four of them.
	Follow them on DHM Plug.
	Oh, these things are off the hook?
	The best is yet to come.
	Do you know which one is the best?
	No, I wish I did.
	Okay.
	There's a lot of good possibilities.
	If you dig around, I don't have the URL. I think CBDS, I think, is...
	That's the one that I've been looking for.
	So right now it's a crapshoot for everything.
	True.
	But what's going to happen, what you want to do is get in on somebody that's got a new idea, that's got something patentable or something.
	Maybe our producer here.
	Maybe our producer will come up with something.
	Something distinctive.
	Yeah, he might know actually.
	Yeah.
	Something distinctive that could, because the money's going to be made as these things get bought out and merged.
	That's because they're all going to jump, jump, jump.
	Oh, they have to, yeah.
	Because all these little guys aren't going to last.
	Anyway, that would be conclusive of our 891 list.
	Did he need any karma or jobs?
	I think both of them can get a dual karma.
	Well, I'm going to do a deducing then as well.
	You've been deduced.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	All right!
	Beautiful!
	Nice list made so, of course, because we put the meetup donations in there.
	It was really nice.
	Everyone made it out to the meetup.
	And we'll be doing plenty of meetups in 2017.
	In fact, I just received a note.
	Here.
	Since Australia is now on, we're looking at May, April.
	Of course, we have our dame there, the famous dame.
	And I have already been contacted by her executive producer on her morning television show.
	Oh, you're going to do the show?
	Yeah, Studio 10.
	This is a great note, actually.
	Do you want to hear this note?
	Yes, absolutely.
	She's famous.
	Hey, Adam, I am the executive producer of a morning TV show in Australia called Studio 10.
	I and one of our hosts, Sarah Harris, listen to your podcast each week.
	In fact, it was Sarah who put me on to No Agenda.
	Hit him in the mouth!
	Nice!
	Sarah just contacted me to let me know that you're coming to Australia.
	We'd love to have you on the show as a guest panelist to talk a range of subjects.
	We cover politics, news stories, and the lighter side of life.
	In fact, you might be surprised at how educated Australians are on American politics.
	The recent election in the U.S. has been a big talking point on our show.
	Yeah, I'm in, of course.
	Well, I wouldn't mention something here.
	That's no surprise that they keep up with our...
	Because I had a couple of sling boxes in Australia, and I'd watch Australian news, and a lot of it was U.S.-centric.
	Yeah.
	They talk about our...
	Well, we know because we also have lots of Australian and New Zealand.
	We're also going to New Zealand producers.
	So yeah, we know people are interested.
	So there's going to be two meetups.
	You're going to have an Australian meetup?
	Or three?
	You're going to have a Sydney, Melbourne, and Price Church?
	No, they're going to be multiple because they are not...
	What's northeast of Sydney even?
	Is that Melbourne?
	Maybe it is Melbourne.
	Is Melbourne North East of Sydney?
	I thought it was South.
	No, Brisbane.
	No, it's Brisbane.
	Brisbane, that's what I'm thinking.
	Brisbane's the one, yeah.
	Brisbane.
	Yeah.
	So I'm looking forward to that.
	Thank you again, of course, to all of our executive producers, associate executive producers for today's program.
	The very first one of 2017.
	We look forward to, oh my, what is it, at least another 104 shows?
	Something like that in this year.
	And this is how you do it in our Value for Value model.
	And of course, we'll be thanking other people who came in at $50 or above later on the program.
	And another program coming up for you on Thursday.
	Dvorak.org slash N-A-S That's right.
	Get your recorder out.
	Go on, play that in someone's face.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Shut up, flame.
	Bye.
	Shut up, slave.
	I am getting a few complaints about the recorder specifically.
	Yeah, okay.
	Just the recorder, though.
	You're talking about the...
	Nobody's complaining about the harmonica.
	No, no.
	But my recorder should be arriving today from Amazon.
	Uh-oh.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, I have to show you how it's done, son.
	Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm.
	So I got...
	Here's a little Entremont.
	Oh, Entremont.
	This is...
	To me, this epitomizes what's wrong with the media.
	This is a local news report.
	Mm-hmm.
	It's called, the clip name is the Idiotic Local Report.
	Do you want any more setup, or is that it?
	No, you'll, I'll get it.
	I'll get it, I'll get it.
	The department tweeted this video of a police officer pulling over an impaired driver.
	Driving the vehicle was Darth Vader.
	That'd be kind of scary for an officer.
	He should know better.
	And look who the passenger is, a stormtrooper.
	Darth Vader tries unsuccessfully to convince the officer he's okay to drive.
	The bottom line, if he can't convince the police to let him slide, neither can you.
	And the bottom line, don't drink and drive.
	The Stormtrooper had it right.
	That's probably the strangest thing that officers have ever seen behind the wheel of a car.
	That's a good point.
	And he drove a white Humper.
	That's right.
	That's something we've learned.
	Well, tonight, if you're heading out...
	So I can imagine the meeting.
	Guys, listen.
	Whatever you do tonight, try and relate it to the new Star Wars movie.
	First of all, it's really relatable.
	Second of all, big ad boy.
	I mean, what the hell was that?
	It was beyond that.
	That's a good complaint.
	But to me, they played it as though it's an actual news story.
	This was a produced piece done by the police department.
	Mm-hmm.
	And it was totally produced, and they make it sound, oh, you know, cops run into all kinds of crazy people behind the wheel.
	Not one person said this was produced for a purpose of sending a message, and it was blatantly promoting the movie Rogue One.
	Yes, yes.
	And I just found it offensive that they would...
	This is reminding me of the NORAD report of Santa.
	You know, they always say, oh, NORAD corner, Santa's over there.
	Scramble all jets.
	You know, and then they play that kind of straight.
	But that's kind of a kiddie thing.
	This is bull crap that they would play this straight.
	The NORAD thing was funny and cute until 9-11 when NORAD actually effed up and, you know, we got attacked.
	Or that's the story.
	You know, so now NORAD has no credibility with me anymore.
	But speaking of Santa Claus, and oddly, you'd think, you know, whenever there's a terrorist attack, Germany, UK, France, anywhere.
	This big news we're talking about the whole time.
	Now we have another NATO member who had a huge terrorist event on New Year's Eve, and very little of it.
	Very, very little.
	No in-depth analysis.
	Of course, this happened in Istanbul.
	And I know this.
	I've never been to Istanbul, but I know a lot of Dutch people, actually, who vacation to Istanbul, and they go to this club.
	I have been to Istanbul, and I have been to two areas where there's lots of these clubs.
	It's actually astonishing.
	Somebody took me to this.
	They've got to see this area.
	It's astonishing how big these nightclubs are.
	And people are drinking.
	They say, we're Muslims who drink.
	They make a big point of that.
	Although that's ending.
	So here's just a quick little report about what happened last night.
	We're hearing that at least 35 people have been killed and 40 people have been injured.
	Some of them are in a critical condition.
	The attack targeted the Reyna nightclub here in Istanbul.
	It's close to the Bosros Bridge, which you might be able to pick out behind me.
	It is one of the most popular nightclubs in Istanbul, indeed in Turkey.
	And it happened shortly after midnight when at least one attacker entered the nightclub.
	He sprayed bullets outside the nightclub before entering.
	There are reports that at least one was dressed in a Santa Claus outfit and then entered the nightclub spraying bullets from a Kalashnikov rifle inside, killing civilians, and we understand at least one police officer.
	I got to see the video of the Santa spraying bullets.
	Thank you.
	And this is troubling as, you know, now Turkey has gone completely the opposite direction of where they were.
	And anything that, and there were warnings about Christmas.
	You know, we can't have, don't be celebrating Christmas here.
	Don't be doing any of this.
	And now we have, they went to the trouble of dressing up in a Santa suit to go kill everybody.
	With the Kalashnikov, I might point out.
	That's what they say, at least.
	This is...
	I don't know.
	I'd like a little more.
	There's no reporting on this.
	I did see some video of the...
	I think it was on RT, of the guy in his outfit, but it was done with a...
	Night vision lens.
	But you can see it was in some sort of an outfit like a Santa Claus, but it wasn't like a classic and he didn't have this big belly.
	So there's no evidence.
	I mean, there's dead people.
	I think there's dead people.
	But it's just the lack of reporting and the lack of...
	This is a NATO country.
	I guess we just don't care anymore.
	Or do we have no reporters?
	I think a lot of it has to do with Erdogan himself.
	He's shut down all the newspapers.
	There's no reporters over there.
	Yeah.
	In fact...
	They're not going to get any reporting if there's no reporters.
	Well, I think that's the point.
	Do they have no reporters there anymore?
	They're all afraid.
	They don't want to be there, which I don't...
	I don't blame them, but...
	Nice.
	A couple other things happened the new year.
	In France, a new rule.
	New rule.
	New rules.
	New rules.
	The French workers now, as of January 1st, have the legal right to turn off their smartphones outside of working hours.
	And this is to make an end to the always available worker bee.
	Apparently if you work for Amazon, whether you're doing anything, you're on call 24-7, and if you don't pick up the call, they'll fire you.
	Well, that would be illegal in France.
	Yeah, should be illegal here.
	Yes.
	In the UK... This was sad news.
	You remember...
	I don't know how long ago this was.
	Not that long ago.
	Some guy put bacon...
	Put a pack of bacon on a mosque.
	As a joke.
	I don't remember this.
	Well, it also happened in the States, but this happened in the UK. And this guy got a jail sentence.
	Of course, it's a hate crime.
	This is how the UK operates.
	So he got a jail sentence.
	For putting bacon?
	Bacon sandwiches.
	He put bacon sandwiches.
	Bacon sandwiches, plural, outside a mosque.
	This guy was killed in jail.
	Holy crap!
	And you can only imagine why.
	And who killed him?
	Oh yeah, I guess you would have to figure that out.
	I mean, that is...
	This is a strange world we live in, my friends.
	Very strange world.
	Alright, well I can do a couple things here.
	I can go to the Atrazine story.
	Yeah, I was thinking maybe we do the Atrazine in the C block.
	We could.
	You don't think you want to do it now?
	Why don't you do it now?
	I've been waiting for this.
	A lot of people sent me emails, and of course it came back to me.
	I have to say, I looked through all my archives.
	Everything could not find your clips.
	I see you've got your backup, so that's good.
	This is a fascinating story, and interestingly enough, this is something that the Seed Man has been ranting about for a long time.
	Right, but he does it in a ranting way that doesn't help.
	No, correct.
	Doesn't help matters.
	this will help matters now let's start with the introduction which is the intro before we meet the professor and we have one of his students apparently has written in yes uh it which is he says it's got to be talking about troy and i said yeah what turns out and he said that he sent some some links to some other research on this crap uh including some work that art that he's done one of his dissertation on it right Yeah, he wrote something.
	Which indicates that another one of the things that this material does is it creates anxiety of the type that would require safe spaces.
	This stuff is the worst stuff in the world, and it's been on...
	Let's just step back one second.
	The reason why this topic is being revisited, really for the first time, is because of Camille Paglia, the clips we played on the last show, where she was talking about transgenderism.
	She says it's cultural.
	It indicates the end of a cultural collapse.
	Other things she said, it was about removing...
	Masculinity from society, which is definitely something going on there.
	And the third one was that there's this, and I have a clip about that later on, about this huge machine that is enabling this for very young children, who children are confused just by definition.
	And I think that, we all agree, that's rather problematic.
	But you came in and said, I have a different theory, although maybe an additional theory, and that is the atrazine.
	Let's start with the end, one of the last clips, so you get a feeling for this.
	Let's play the Atrazine 7, Michael Clayton moment, and this refers to the movie Michael Clayton, which I recommend everybody's view, because it's a truthful rendition of how a fixer operates.
	Well, I originally, I had some suspicion that they had hacked into my email, and I originally found out there was a professor at Minnesota, and I was going there to give a big lecture, and this professor in the School of Public Health, Deb Dubinowski, said that she happened to be standing in line at the airport,
	flying back to Minnesota, and just by coincidence, she was standing behind somebody who was having a conversation on his cell phone and who identified himself as an employee of Syngenta, and he made the statement, we have access to his email, we know where he is at all times.
	So it wasn't just paranoia on my part.
	I had direct evidence that they had access to my email and at the time I maintained a second and a third email that I could keep private and I actually used that information Okay, who was after him?
	Syngenta, the company that makes atrazine.
	So let's start with the premise.
	This is Atrazine 1.
	This is the intro before we get to talk with Troy.
	University of California scientists who discovered that a popular herbicide may have harmful effects on the endocrine system.
	Tyrone Hayes was first hired in 1997 by a company that later became agribusiness giant Syngenta.
	They asked him to study their product, atrazine, a pesticide that is applied to more than half the corn crops in the United States and widely used on golf courses and Christmas tree farms.
	But after Hayes found results that the manufacturer did not expect that atrazine causes sexual abnormalities in frogs and could cause the same problems for humans, Syngenta refused to allow him to publish his work.
	This was the start of an epic feud between the scientist and the corporation.
	Now a new article in The New Yorker magazine uses court documents from a class-action lawsuit against Syngenta to show how it sought to prevent the Environmental Protection Agency from banning the profitable chemical, which is already banned by the European Union.
	To start with, the company's public relations team drafted a list of four goals.
	Reporter Rachel Aviv writes, quote, the first was, quote, discredit Hayes.
	In a spiral-bound notebook, Syngenta's communications manager, Sherry Ford, who referred to Hayes by his initials, wrote that the company could prevent citing of TH data by revealing him as non-credible.
	He was a frequent topic of conversation at company meetings.
	Syngenta looked for ways to exploit Hayes' faults, problems.
	If TH involved in scandal, Enviros will drop him, Ford wrote.
	Well, for more, we're joined by TH himself.
	That's right, Tyrone Hayes is with us.
	Professor of Integrative Biology at the University of California, Berkeley, joining us from the campus TV station right now in Berkeley.
	Welcome to Democracy Now!
	Can you tell us what happened to you, how you were originally tied to Syngenta, the research you did, and what prevented you from originally publishing it?
	How long ago is all this reporting from, John?
	Well, the New Yorker article came out quite some time ago.
	This interview was about a year ago.
	And this has been going on, though, and it's been reported on and off since about the year 2000.
	So, I mean, this is not news.
	No.
	But it's underreported, except for your buddy down the street there.
	Who talks about it, and nobody talks about it.
	This is underreported suppressed news, let's just put it that way.
	And it will continue to be so, because apparently this product, which is very important to corn crops, is being used to an extreme.
	A couple mistakes they keep making, they call it a pesticide, they call it this, they call it, it's an herbicide.
	It's a type of weed killer.
	So similar to Roundup?
	No, Roundup does it a different way.
	But similar in the fact that it apparently is a carcinogen, too.
	Besides causing estrogen issues.
	And golf courses and Christmas tree farms?
	Yeah.
	My goodness.
	Have you ever seen the women on golf courses?
	Just saying.
	Well, that's why I recommend the plastic trees.
	That trees thing is crazy, though.
	That's dangerous.
	You get that, and you bring that into your house.
	Yeah.
	Well, also, the real problem is the water supply where the stuff creeps in, and most of the Midwest and Texas.
	Let's start with what I call a bad question, and I'll explain why after the clip, too.
	Well, here at Berkeley, I was a new assistant professor.
	I was already studying the effects of hormones and the effects of chemicals that interfere with hormones on amphibian development.
	And I was approached by the manufacturer and asked to study the effects of atrazine, the herbicide, on frogs.
	And after I discovered that it interfered with male development and caused males to turn into females to develop eggs, The company tried to prevent me from publishing and from discussing that work with other scientists outside of their panel.
	What was the process within the company as you raised your findings?
	What was their immediate reaction to what you had come across?
	Well, initially they seemed sort of supportive.
	You know, we designed more studies, we designed more analysis, and they encouraged me to do more analysis, but as the further analysis just supported the original finding, they became less interested in moving forward very quickly, and eventually they moved to asking me to manipulate data or to misrepresent data, and ultimately they told me I could not publish or could not talk about the data outside of their closed panel.
	And Professor Hayes, talk about exactly what you found.
	What were the abnormalities you found in frogs, the gender-bending nature of this drug atrazine?
	I've read this.
	I mean, they actually, the frogs that have been changed can reproduce.
	Yeah.
	They become totally female.
	A couple of things about this.
	When...
	Amy comes in.
	She does two things.
	One, her style of interview is, well, Adam, talk about.
	Talk about that.
	You know where that comes from.
	Instead of asking a nice question, she's to talk about it.
	I'll tell you why.
	That's because they had a pre-interview with some producer.
	The producer said, oh, he's got a great story about the frogs.
	Yeah, no, I understand that.
	Well, but not everyone understands.
	I'm reiterating for the listening audience.
	She also calls it a drug.
	Idiot.
	It's an herbicide.
	The other guy calls it a pesticide, she calls it a drug.
	It's not a drug.
	You're an idiot.
	That's what she does.
	I like their use of the term gender bending, and we'll go to clip three where we reiterate that.
	What's the gender-bending nature of this drug atrazine?
	Well, initially we found that the larynx at a voice box in exposed males didn't grow properly.
	And this was an indication that the male hormone testosterone was not being produced at appropriate levels.
	And eventually we found that not only were these males demasculized or chemically castrated, but they also were starting to develop ovaries or starting to develop eggs.
	And eventually we discovered that these males didn't breed properly, that some of the males actually completely turned into females.
	So we had genetic males that were laying eggs and reproducing as females.
	And now we're starting to show that some of these males actually show, I guess, what we call homosexual behavior.
	They actually prefer to mate with other males.
	Now, the interesting thing on this one was the voice box thing.
	Because I've pointed this out before.
	There's so many males today that have that kind of high-pitched voice.
	I think Chris Hayes has it.
	Chris Hayes has it, for sure, yeah.
	Kind of a high-pitched voice.
	But on Chris Hayes, you've got to make a decision.
	Either he's had a vasectomy or he's been drinking atrazine.
	A vasectomy is not going to change your voice.
	Okay, true.
	This high-pitched voice, and you hear it when you see a lot of interviews with the college kids that want the safe space, those people, and I'm saying those people, I understand that, they have this voice, and then every once in a while says, is this a girl or is this a guy?
	I can't tell from their voice.
	It could be a girl with a huskier voice, or it's not even that husky.
	And I believe that this coincidence is not a coincidence.
	And I think this high-pitched voice males, which there's tons of, especially in college today, Which would have been raised, many of them in their 20s, and this stuff's been in use since the 90s, is just about the right point in time for them to be, you know, coming of age with this, hi, I'm...
	I have a question.
	This high-pitched voice.
	A question.
	So, about the frogs.
	Atrazine has the ability to change for frogs to gender-benderize.
	What does it do to female frogs?
	Does it make them more female?
	There was no...
	This was never addressed.
	Okay.
	It's all about the males.
	Alright, onward.
	And so, where did you go with your research?
	Well, eventually what happened was the EPA insisted that the Environmental Protection Agency insisted that the manufacturer release me from the confidentiality contract.
	And we published our findings in pretty high-ranking journals, such as Proceedings at the National Academy of Sciences.
	We published some work in Nature.
	We published work in Environmental Health Perspectives, which is a journal sponsored by the National Institutes of Health.
	And when did you begin to get a sense that the company was organizing a campaign against you?
	What were the signs that you saw post the period when you published your findings?
	The company tried to purchase the data.
	They tried to give me a new contract so that they would then control the data and the experiments.
	They actually tried to get me to come and visit the company to get control of those data.
	And when I refused, I invited them to the university.
	I offered to share data, but they wanted to purchase the data.
	And then they actually, as mentioned in a New York article, they actually hired scientists to try to refute the data or to pick apart the data.
	And eventually they hired scientists to do experiments that they claim refuted our data.
	And then that escalated to the company, actually, Tim Pasteur in particular, and others from the company coming to presentations or lectures that I was giving to make handouts or to stand up and refute the data, and eventually even led to things like threats of violence.
	Tim Pasteur, for example, before I would give a talk, would literally whisper in my ear that he could have me lynched, or he would, quote, said he would send some of his good old boys to show me what it's like to be gayed.
	Or at one point he threatened my wife and my daughter with sexual violence.
	He would whisper things like, your wife's at home alone right now.
	How do you know I haven't sent somebody there to take care of her?
	Isn't your daughter there?
	So eventually it really slipped into some pretty scary tactics.
	Well, didn't he file a complaint?
	Apparently he tried.
	It's not that easy unless you're recording people.
	He discusses that a little bit.
	Mm-hmm.
	There was a couple of things here I thought was interesting, though, that if you just look at it from a scientific perspective, he had the data, he had done this research, and they just hired scientists to counter the data.
	In other words, do counter studies.
	Right, right.
	And they were just bought off.
	I mean, this is the kind of corruption I believe that we're seeing with the global warming community.
	And we talked to people.
	It's exactly the same thing.
	One of the guys that was at the meetup talked about, one of his pals is like a climatologist, and he did something that showed something that wasn't kosher as far as anyone was concerned.
	He couldn't get any more contracts to do anything unless he towed the line on global warming and climate change and said what they want you to say, which is what's going on right now, even though nobody bitches about that.
	They bitch about the climate skeptics.
	So we have an issue that's a societal issue that's problematic.
	I'm almost convinced now that...
	This sounds a little crackpotty, but I'm almost convinced now that the global warming opinions are a test...
	To see if you are susceptible to being brainwashed.
	So what would the test for what?
	What is the next ramp up?
	The test, so you're going to go along with the program, you're going to be a good little boy, you're going to be a good citizen in the global system, the global system.
	The New World Order kind of thing.
	That's just my thinking.
	Right, but I'm just saying, so do they do that on an individual basis or a country basis?
	Which country is all in?
	I mean, if you're going to go crackpot, go all the way.
	I think it's all, all of the above.
	And who is they?
	They is the big giant they.
	It's the elites.
	The people we're talking about, the people that David Icke likes to cite as running everything.
	The people that live to be 100 years old effortlessly.
	The Queen, David Rockefeller, these guys live forever.
	I won't go as far as saying the lizard people.
	But I could.
	Yeah.
	Second half of the show.
	We can skip the long clip, which is the optional.
	It's about the corruption of the system.
	I don't mind hearing it, actually.
	I mean, we're a little late for our segment, but this is very interesting.
	We've been waiting for it for a long time.
	So he's going to talk about the general corruption in the scientific community.
	I think, yeah, more or less.
	So what did you do?
	I mean, you're actually, I mean, this is very serious.
	You could bring criminal charges if you're being threatened and stalked in this way.
	Well, initially I went to my vice chancellor here at the university.
	I went to my dean.
	I went to legal counsel here at the university.
	And I was told by legal counsel that, well, I was told, first of all, by the vice chancellor for research at the time, that, well, you publish the work, it's over, so I don't understand what the problem is.
	And I tried to impress upon her, Beth Burnside at the time, that it wasn't over, that I was really being pursued by the manufacturer.
	And eventually, when I spoke with the lawyer here at the university, I was told that, well, I represent the university and I protect the university from liability.
	You're kind of on your own.
	And I remember I looked at him and I said, but the very university from the Latin universitas is a collection of scholars, of teachers and students.
	So who is this entity, the university that you represent that doesn't include me?
	Is this Berkeley?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, Cal Berkeley.
	Nice.
	But clearly there's some entity that doesn't really include us, the professors and students, and doesn't really protect our academic freedom, I think, the way that it should.
	I wanted to ask you about one of your critics, Elizabeth Whalen, president of the American Council on Science and Health.
	When the New York Times ran a critical story about the herbicide as part of its toxic water series in 2009, she referred to its reporting as, quote, all the news that's fit to scare.
	This is a clip of Whelan from an interview on MSNBC. I very much disagree with the New York Times story, which is really raising concerns about a totally bogus risk.
	Atrazine has been used for more than 50 years.
	It's very, very tightly regulated.
	Even the Environmental Protection Agency, which is not known for soft-pedaling about environmental chemicals, even they say it's safe.
	Well, it turns out that Syngenta has been a long-term financial supporter of Wayland's organization, the American Council on Science and Health, paying them at least $100,000.
	Your comments on her remarks?
	Well, again, they're paid remarks.
	One of the most disheartening things in this whole process is that many of my critics, you know, it's one to be active.
	If you come and say, well, we interpreted the data this way, and we want to argue about this point, but these people really didn't even have an opinion.
	These opinions were written by the manufacturer, and they were paid to put their names on them to endorse the opinions of the manufacturer.
	So, you know, that's one of the most disheartening things, is that they were really just personalities for sale.
	And many of the things that she's saying there are just not true.
	Any independent study from any scientist that's not funded by Syngenta has found similar problems with atrazine, not just my work on frogs, but I've just published a paper with 22 scientists from around the world, from 12 different countries, who've shown that atrazine causes sexual problems in mammals, that atrazine causes sexual problems in birds, amphibians, fish, so it's not just my work in amphibians.
	And also with regards to the EPA, one of the scientific advisory panel members on the EPA that was supposed to review atrazine turns out is paid and works for Syngenta.
	So the whole process was tainted and in fact the EPA ignored the scientific advisory panel's opinion and actually decided to keep atrazine on the market and not to do any more studies when that clearly wasn't the recommendation of the scientific advisory panel.
	What I'm missing here, where's the study on mice?
	Isn't mice supposed to be the closest to human test subjects?
	I don't know.
	We have a student that's worked with Troy.
	We can find out.
	Yeah, I'd like to know.
	They weren't doing anything on mice.
	He started off this whole thing as about his frog study, and the rest of it's secondary, and I think that's probably been suppressed too.
	This sounds like a lot of suppression going on because there's a lot of money being made.
	And I also get the sense that some people don't give a crap.
	And you mentioned the last show that Paglia was talking about the war on men.
	This is perfect.
	Chemical castration.
	What could be better?
	Literally chemical castration.
	Yeah.
	Oh my.
	This is disturbing.
	Very disturbing.
	All right, onward with a little shorter clip on another little side effect of this crap.
	I mean, Professor Hayes, this is stunning stuff that came out in this class action suit.
	The suit wasn't brought by you, but the documents that came out that referenced you, Tyrone Hayes, T.H., and trying to discredit you, trying to discredit your family.
	That was a lawsuit that involved atrazine contaminating water supplies, right?
	But what was your reaction when you saw this?
	You suspected this.
	You felt you were being followed.
	You felt they were trying to discredit you.
	But now you have the documents.
	You know what Tyrone should do?
	You should call racism.
	This is racist.
	You're just racist because I'm a black professor.
	You don't want to hear.
	You've got to do something.
	I will mention one thing as an aside.
	Yeah, well, I'm going to have to go meet the guys over here.
	I can just go check out his office.
	And why'd you meet our producer at the same time?
	I'd really love to hear what he has to say.
	This is fantastic.
	And this is a result of something I've warned people about.
	They have to know about, I guess, corporations are careless and He found out about all this stuff against him only because of this lawsuit about the water supply in some area that's not discussed.
	And then when discovery happened, said, hey, look at your mention.
	This happened with me when I was on a Microsoft blacklist, which happened through a discovery process, and somebody sent me a bunch of documents saying, hey, look, you're mentioned.
	And this is the thing about discovery.
	When there's lawyers...
	Get the word that they can start taking documents.
	They take everything.
	And whatever's in there, if you wrote it down, you got some issues.
	And if you don't produce it, you're in big trouble.
	Right, exactly.
	Stek just sent me a link to a page on the NIH.gov.
	Exposure of mice to atrazine and its metabolite elicits oxidative stress and endocrine disruption.
	Endocrine disruption, I think, is what we're talking about here.
	Yeah, and so let's finish this because there's a little tidbit at the end of this one.
	Which one is that, John?
	There's the estrogen.
	The one you were playing.
	It was over.
	That was the end of the clip.
	Oh, then you...
	You played clip six with estrogen?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	No, it was seven.
	I apologize.
	Here's six.
	Ah, you played the wrong clip.
	That's why the discovery thing came.
	I'm so sorry.
	Okay, here's six.
	The Novartis not only made atrazine, which is used on corn, of course, which is an herbicide, but it also induces an enzyme called aromatase.
	It causes you to make too much estrogen.
	And it's now been shown that this herbicide atrazine and this mechanism is potentially involved in development of breast cancer, for example.
	Wow.
	Up until 2000, the company also made a chemical called letrozole, which did exactly the opposite.
	It blocked aromatase, it blocked this enzyme, it blocked estrogen production, and this chemical letrozole is the number one treatment for breast cancer.
	So this company was simultaneously in 2000 making a chemical that...
	induced estrogen and promoted breast cancer and making a chemical that blocked estrogen production and was being used to treat breast cancer.
	So there's a clear conflict of interest there, a clear problem.
	The other problems are that something like 90% of the seeds that we use to produce our food right now are owned by the big six pesticide companies.
	So again, there's a conflict of interest where the companies have an interest in I guess, getting us addicted to the pesticides to grow the seeds that they also own.
	And Syngenta, of course, is one of those big six, one of the big pesticide or agribusiness companies.
	Oh, man.
	That's unbelievable.
	The food supply of this country is poisoned.
	My God, for 25 years, they've been growing babies and cows!
	That's right.
	It is poison.
	And a question, can you filter this out with a good water filter?
	Can you filter the atrazine out?
	Well, it depends where your water supply is.
	You probably, in Texas it might be a concern.
	I don't think we have it in our water supply in California.
	It's mostly where they grow lots of corn.
	We do grow corn, but we're not the corn belt.
	So that's Indiana?
	Indiana.
	All the Midwest states.
	That whole belt of states down into Texas.
	There's a map available if you do enough looking at this.
	How about the Carolinas?
	They got a lot of corn there?
	I don't think so.
	Well, if science...
	If you're trying to explain Lindsey Graham with his high-fitched voice, it's very...
	Science is in so much trouble.
	Science is in so much trouble.
	I mean, I don't talk to him anymore.
	The professor, the brain professor, who's now at Stanford, you know, the p-values is, you know, Pretty much all fMRIs are now in question because the scientists are just noodling around with the p-values.
	Oh, I don't like the results.
	I'll change this a little bit, move that up and down.
	And something very disturbing came across my desk.
	If you're done with the atrazine, because this will move on a little bit.
	Yes, I think everyone's kind of...
	Thank you for that.
	That's a good clip to play before the next segment because it does talk about how the commercial interests...
	Have tainted the coverage of this story.
	This story is not a news story.
	No.
	But you're never going to hear about it.
	And I'm also sure that universities don't want to do too much to step on their money.
	The money for these studies comes from the companies themselves.
	So this is a very, very, very twisted, messed up situation.
	It's corrupt.
	Over the Christmas holiday, I was talking to one of my millennials here in Austin, and this millennial said, you know, I think I finally found a good information source that I trust.
	And maybe we talked about this.
	And I said, well, which one is that?
	Time Magazine.
	Now, I didn't say anything.
	I just let that go.
	But Time Magazine is, to me, is shite.
	And I want to accentuate that in this particular topic about science.
	This is the editor...
	I don't know if it's the editor-in-chief.
	He's on CBS. And what they're talking about is, again, Trump asking for names of people who went to the climate summit.
	But he says something in here about science, which I will stop the clip when it's time, which blew my mind that he could say it, that the editor from Time Magazine could say it, and that no one questioned what he was saying.
	Jeffrey Kluger, Time Magazine's editor-at-large.
	Do you know him, Jeffrey Kluger?
	No, no.
	Good morning.
	Good morning.
	First of all, how concerned is the scientific community about the changes in the administration?
	The community is concerned, and it should be concerned.
	Look, global warming is an established fact.
	It's immutable.
	It's non-negotiable.
	Okay, stop right there.
	He says global warming is an immutable fact.
	Immutable means cannot change, will not change, cannot change in the future.
	Science, by definition, is not immutable.
	Well, the other thing that's not immutable, this is based on a computer model.
	If you remember, the computer model first showed us the hockey stick, which turned out to be bogus.
	They had to change the computer model to get rid of it.
	And then the computer model wasn't coughing out the right number.
	So they had to correct many of these numbers.
	And that's what ClimateGate came about.
	That actually was the largest response.
	I think that was the biggest hit they had.
	And I think it still hurts them.
	Yes.
	But even though they're fighting it with the memos that went back and forth.
	Oh, God, we got to fudge these numbers because they're not coming up right.
	How is any of that immutable?
	But I cannot believe that an editor at large for Time Magazine has the balls to use a big word, immutable.
	You know, you're using the word so you know what it means.
	Immutable means cannot change in the future.
	Science is always changeable.
	Can I throw something in?
	Please.
	He's sincere.
	I know!
	But I don't understand how you can...
	Part of the test.
	Oh yeah, part of the test.
	Well, I just think that CBS and everyone should be ashamed for not saying, hold on a second, science is not immutable, ever.
	They're not allowed.
	This is like, as we witnessed on PBS... They're not allowed to.
	On the PBS reports, anytime there's clients, you know, they always have the two guests that like to debate a little bit, maybe not so much, but sometimes they have three guests.
	When they bring a climate guy in to talk about global warming, it's always one guy.
	But this is not a climate guy.
	This is an editor.
	Still one guy.
	The community is concerned and it should be concerned.
	Look, global warming is an established fact.
	It's immutable.
	It's non-negotiable.
	It's not subject to politics.
	Global warming doesn't read tweets.
	It doesn't care about who won the electoral college vote.
	It's an immutable bit of science.
	And what we're seeing...
	And again, it's an immutable bit of science.
	All science is not immutable.
	I'm sorry, I can't get over this.
	Science.
	And what we're seeing is an administration that is choosing to appoint people who are hostile to that very idea, who at best will dodge it by saying, well, I'm not a scientist, I don't know.
	Well then, listen to the scientists, 97% of whom say that global warming is real.
	Ah, no, I'm sorry, that is not true!
	That's a lie.
	It's a lie.
	It's an outright lie.
	Who says that Time Magazine is a viable source of information?
	One of our producers?
	No, one of my millennials.
	Someone who listens to the show.
	Well, yeah.
	I do this as a public service.
	I'm not a scientist.
	I don't know.
	Well, then listen to the scientists, 97% of whom say that global warming is real.
	That's a lie.
	That's just a blatant lie.
	Why don't you explain it real quick, then?
	The 97% number refers to people who wrote positively about global warming, saying it was real, and they'd done papers, and they asked all these people, do they think that global warming's real, based on their own work, which was all positive, pushing it, yes, yes, yes, there's global warming, and they could only get 97% of these people who already believed in it to agree with the premise, which is like ludicrous.
	Yeah, it was only, what, like a handful of reports.
	Yeah.
	In a global scale, yeah.
	So they just keep pushing that meme.
	Listen to the scientists, 97% of whom say that global warming is real, it's happening, and it's a deadly threat.
	And by the way, it wasn't that they said global warming is real, they said man-made global warming is real.
	Right, and then nobody said anything about a deadly threat.
	That wasn't in the survey.
	No.
	Editor-at-large?
	Editor-at-large?
	Really?
	Thank you for pointing out the deadly threat.
	That wasn't in there either, I agree.
	I'm not a scientist.
	I don't know.
	Well then, listen to the scientists, 97% of whom say that global warming is real, it's happening, and it's a deadly threat.
	Jeffrey, what about the discrepancy between the agency heads and the thousands of civil servants who actually staff these agencies and have done a large part of the climate work for the Obama administration?
	Well, this is what we're seeing.
	And there is some hope here because a lot of these people are lifetime civil servants.
	They have the power of...
	They have the power of, for lack of a better term, passive aggression.
	Of course they're required to obey their superiors.
	But there is work that's done zealously in pursuit of a good cause.
	And then there's work that's done grudgingly.
	And there's a quiet power in civil servants here.
	But we're seeing some danger already.
	The Trump Transition Committee has already sent a 74-question questionnaire to the Department of Energy.
	Which they push back on, though.
	They push back on, yes.
	And that's a good thing.
	They said these are civil servants doing their jobs.
	So no, we're not going to give you the names of people who attended U.N. conferences on climate change.
	We're not going to give you the names of people who have studied the social cost of carbon because that's an important study and these people are doing their jobs.
	But it still will have a chilling effect.
	So they're going to slow down.
	Really?
	What are we now?
	Communist Soviet Union?
	What are we doing?
	We're going to slow down.
	Ha ha, we have power.
	We're going to go real slow.
	Well, you know my attitude.
	Go ahead.
	My attitude is if you're working for the government, you should do nothing.
	Why is that your attitude?
	Because whatever you do screws things up.
	Just by doing nothing.
	No, doing nothing doesn't screw things up.
	Well, the social cost of carbon is something we've got to keep our eyes on.
	Oh, the social cost of carbon.
	And if it's 97% of all scientists, how is that immutable?
	Then clearly someone's immuting it.
	Oh, that's a good point.
	3% are immuting it.
	Yeah, but it's immutable.
	It's immutable.
	We only do things that are simple to figure out, people.
	Time Magazine, editor at large, not the smartest one.
	And probably never had any science in his background at all.
	Very doubtful.
	All right, one little entremant before we hit the C block.
	Okay.
	This is...
	Oh, no.
	Actually, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	I will not.
	I got to do that later.
	Ah, damn.
	I can do it after a while.
	Why?
	Because it's too long.
	You know what?
	Why don't we just...
	Okay, well, since you did the climate thing, I got to do a climate thing.
	All right, good.
	Just the opposite side of this whole thing, because we're all in on global cooling.
	Let's hear the latest global cooling report from the media.
	New Year's global cooling report.
	Yes, thank you.
	New Year's global cooling report.
	Parts of the Northeast are still digging out tonight after the first big snowstorm of the season that caused numerous accidents and left thousands without power.
	Morgan Radford reports on the challenges going into this year's New Year's weekend.
	Tonight, millions of Americans scrambling to clear the streets.
	Unless you have to go out, don't bother going out and stuff that makes life easier for us.
	In upstate New York, plows clearing up to eight inches of snow after the first major storm of the season clobbered the Northeast.
	It's coming down pretty hard.
	It's very difficult to see.
	Almost 100,000 people in Maine without power, which officials say may not come back for days.
	Parts of that state saw more than two feet of snow, more than a foot in parts of New Hampshire.
	Tonight, responders trying to prevent this.
	The aftermath of a forceful 24 hours.
	Here in New Hampshire, you can see melting snow still covering the streets.
	This is something officials warn can quickly turn to ice as soon as the temperature drops.
	Dangerous streets under harsh conditions.
	There's such slow visibility that it is very, very hard to even tell what lanes you're supposed to be driving in.
	Residents hoping to end the year with a different type of bang.
	Morgan Radford, NBC News, Concord, New Hampshire.
	When the ocean rises just this much, this whole area will be underwater.
	and That's what you gotta get your heads around.
	That's right, everybody.
	Just remember...
	The science is in!
	Science!
	Alright, we closed the gate.
	We done?
	Yeah, I hope so.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	We do have a few more people to thank for show 891.
	And starting with Joey at PC Lifestyle from Kennesaw, Georgia.
	It's just kind of interesting.
	He was at the meetup, $180.
	Also, Trent Silva, $140.
	And he's the nine-year-old.
	Ah, yes.
	Wait, $140?
	You know, I suspect his parents really contributed this money.
	But they made it, it's in a little envelope, a Chinese envelope with a handwritten note, which I'll read in this case.
	Mm-hmm.
	And it's all in lowercase.
	To Mr.
	John C. Dvorak, D-E-V-O-R-A-C, where the C stands for copying a jingle.
	So I want...
	So I, and he asked a request.
	So I want a, and this is all, this is definitely written by a kid, the handwriting.
	So I want a baby, a baby, boom shakalaka, a bing bing bong bong bing bong, two to the head and you got karma.
	And I think we should give him his wishes.
	140 bucks from a nine-year-old?
	Of course, of course.
	Just a regular karma?
	He doesn't need jobs karma as well.
	No, he doesn't need jobs karma yet.
	Boom, chocolate.
	Boom, chocolate.
	Bing, bing, bong, bong, bing, bing.
	There we go.
	You've got karma.
	Ah, that kid's going places.
	I'm skeptical.
	Brian, you bang?
	These kids are smart these days, man.
	I'm all in.
	Brian Eubanks, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, also at the meetup.
	William Durkin, Greenville, South Carolina, $110.13.
	What do we got here?
	Rich Hayes, who's also at the meetup, $101.33.
	Mason Conklin, $101.05.
	Frank, I don't...
	It's something...
	Wegener or something.
	Wegener or something.
	It's hard to tell because of the Unicode.
	But he's in Berlin.
	Deutschland.
	Deutschland.
	Lon Baker, $100.
	And that was $100 for our Berliner.
	John Heinemann, $100.
	And then we have a bunch of $100, $300 from the meetup.
	David Arlanes via Helen Trejo.
	And I think there is a...
	A note?
	There's a note attached that I think he deserves it.
	See if he's on the birthday list.
	Okay.
	There's a birthday involved in this one.
	Yes.
	December 26th is when it was his birthday.
	Yeah, he says, Dear John and Adam, I hope you both have a great New Year.
	It's been a pleasure to listen for the past three years.
	I never understood what people meant by sanity, but as a DACA beneficiary, this past election has been stressful for those who worry about immigration under Trump.
	MSM tells me I should be fearful, but you have both taught me to make my own interpretation about what goes on in the world.
	Today is my birthday and my beautiful girlfriend has gifted this donation on my behalf.
	It is great to be here with you at the meetup.
	And my girlfriend, our only wish now is to meet Adam.
	Thanks for your courage.
	Thank you.
	I thought that was sweet.
	Bro.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	The sun is blasted.
	Sir Sean Rigaldo of the Adirondacks was also somehow managed to get to the meetup.
	There were people from out of town that showed up.
	And that's $100.
	Sir Nacho, Lord of the Citadel, $100.
	Guy driving around California, $88.89 in Covina, California.
	He's the notary.
	Steven Jaffe, $88.88 in Rancho Palos Verde.
	Boob.
	He's got a birthday.
	I think he's on the list.
	I hope.
	Okay, now we have somebody from Oviedo, Florida.
	And I say somebody, oh, there it is, David Napier, 80-008, that's a boob.
	Yeah.
	And he says, again, thanks guys, and I'll be upping my monthly donation shortly.
	Thanks to Edward for punching me in the mouth a few years back.
	If first you think it's appropriate for reading on the show, he's got some small something stories.
	First, I'd like to explain to my son and my daughter's teachers why they are calling other kids douchebags.
	This is why we're reading this.
	He says, First, I'd like to thank you for having to explain to my son and daughter's teachers why the kids are calling each other douchebags and telling them to shut up slaves.
	In class?
	Yes.
	Explaining that you aren't donating doesn't fly.
	No.
	Second of which doesn't fly too well with the social justice warriors of the school.
	Anyway.
	They thought he was a white supremacist?
	Yeah, I guess.
	Oh my goodness.
	This is ridiculous, but this is what happens.
	Alright, onward.
	Robert Gusick in High Point, North Carolina.
	$75.27.
	Anonymous $70.
	That was from us on the meetup.
	Nathan P. and Brian Black of the Frontier Podcast.
	They were there at the meetup.
	60 bucks.
	Thank you.
	Paul Shavati in Saskatoon.
	He's got Lisa for happy birthday and call Kjell.
	Kjell, K-J-E-L-L. I guess.
	Kel, call Kel out as a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	Done.
	$54.72.
	Our buddy Eric Hochul in Berlin, another Berliner.
	We got two of them there.
	We can do a meetup.
	$52.
	Sir Donald Kuhl, Wyndham, New Hampshire, $50.01.
	Thanks for keeping me sane, he says.
	And finally, these are $50 donors, name and location.
	Shane Rozdilski in Saskatoon.
	Dennis Brown in Rhinelander, Wisconsin.
	Dean Kastanko in Jacksonville, Arkansas.
	Jessica LaRue in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania.
	Stefano Siski?
	Siski?
	What do you think?
	Groningen.
	That's a Dutch.
	I don't know.
	Groningen is where he's from.
	Stefano.
	It's not a Dutch name.
	Siski.
	I don't know.
	Not a Dutch name.
	Could be Italian.
	Tyler Schimpf in Bothel, Washington.
	Schimpf.
	Schimpf in Bothel.
	Schimpf.
	Or Bothel.
	I can't remember.
	It's Bothel or Bothel.
	Schimpf.
	Ralph Massaro in Kirkland, Washington.
	Joe Reynoso in the U.S. is a person known.
	He's going to be a knight.
	We have a lot of nights today.
	Baldemar Artiga, Ryan Jones, Sir Mark Tanner again in Whittier, California.
	He was at the meetup and everybody would love to see him.
	That you're the guy?
	Sanford Staub in Kuskia, Idaho.
	I believe he's a sir.
	Sanford is, you think?
	Yes, Sandy.
	Sir Sanford, you're right.
	You're right.
	Jared Seuss in Chicago, who I think is almost a serve.
	He's not.
	Sir Eric Von Marder was at the meetup in Van Nuys, California.
	Eric Block also there.
	And last but not least, Henry Hernandez from San Pedro, California was there.
	And he was shifting.
	That concludes our little list of producers for shows 891.
	And we got a bunch of nights and birthdays and everything.
	It was a great meet-up with another one at the Train Museum.
	And it's also a beautiful start to the beginning of the year.
	Appreciate that very much.
	Thank you, all of you.
	Because we don't have a lot of listeners.
	Let me see what we got on the stream right now.
	We have...
	Oh, it's still over a thousand.
	That's still not bad for a day like today.
	No, it's a holiday.
	Yeah, that's surprising.
	It's a football game.
	Thank you, everyone.
	$50 or under, usually for reasons of anonymity, but of course, we have a lot of people on our subscriptions.
	It's very good for you to go check out the subscription as well, in addition to any other donations you hand out.
	This is Value for Value, the only way we can keep the show going.
	Our 10th year, very proud of you supporting us.
	And of course, another show coming up on Thursday.
	Just in case anybody needs it, a little bit of jobs karma there.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	you saw karma it's your birthday birthday I'm no one champion all right we got David Arianez David celebrated on the 26th of December.
	Stephen Jaffe celebrated on the 29th.
	Paul Shabati says happy birthday to Kiel, who we also called out as a douchebag.
	And happy birthday to Sir Whosoever.
	All of them celebrating, and we say happy birthday from all your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe.
	Happy birthday, yeah!
	One, two, three, four, five nightings today, John.
	Nice.
	Very, very nice.
	Ow, ow, sorry.
	Ow.
	I think I nicked myself with that one.
	You better get a septic pencil.
	Yes.
	Bring me your blade, man.
	Get here.
	Mark Pugner, Kevin Strange, Donald Napier, and Joe Reynoso, along with Bill Durkin.
	Please step up to the stage here on the podium.
	We've got next to the lectern.
	Gentlemen, all five of you have supported the best podcast in a universal amount of $1,000 or more.
	Therefore, I'm very proud to bring you into the roundtable of the Knights and Danes.
	And I pronounce the KV, Sir Angel of Pasadena.
	Sir Strange, Sir Don of Tanksville, Sir Joseph Reynoso, and Sir Durkin Wee.
	Yes, for you we have Hookers and Blow, Rampoids and Chardonnay, Puppies and Tailors, Winter's Fort, Malted Barley and Hops, Opium and Warm Orange, Juice, Fong, Hits and Bourbon, Sparkling Cider and Escorts, Ginger Ale and Gerbils, Breast Milk and Pavlom, and of course, Mutton and Mead.
	Head on over to noagendanation.com slash rings.
	Give all the details to Eric DeShield.
	We'll get your rings out as soon as possible.
	Your night rings.
	We don't talk about them much anymore, but they are beautiful.
	They are signet rings.
	You get the ceiling wax with it.
	It has a nice ITM on it and hit him in the mouth in Latin.
	Of course, all mirrored so that you can really make it look good either in the ceiling wax or on someone's face.
	And thank you again.
	Okay.
	Oh, you know, we should do this.
	iPhone, schmy phone!
	Yes, that's right, everybody.
	Time once again for tech news.
	The tech hornies can't do what we do because we are the true tech journalists.
	Actually, one of our producers, Sir Cole Kalistra, caught something, which we didn't catch.
	And this was the story about the...
	Let me see, I have it here still.
	About the Amazon...
	Alexa?
	Yeah.
	And the murder case?
	Right.
	Let me just see.
	Let me get this clip.
	Because we need to play the clip again.
	Because he caught something.
	I was blown away that he caught that.
	Now where did this clip go?
	Here we go.
	Listen to this and tell me if you can figure out the interesting part about this.
	Remember, it's about Amazon.
	Amazon's popular home assistant Echo, better known as Alexa, was a bestseller this Christmas.
	Now police in Bentonville, Arkansas, hope Alexa can help solve a real-life whodunit.
	So we don't have to play much more of the clip.
	This is a story, an anti-Amazon story, coming out of Bentonville, Arkansas.
	What's in Bentonville, Arkansas?
	I don't know.
	Walmart?
	Thank you.
	It is the headquarters of Walmart.
	The number one competitor to Amazon.
	Pretty much.
	I'd say that kind of nails it down.
	Yeah, another corrupt story.
	Very, very, very corrupt story.
	A sketchy story.
	But, the best clip I have with an Amazon Alexa went viral.
	I know you haven't seen it.
	This is a little kid, and he's talking into the little Amazon dot.
	And the kid is asking, it's hard to understand the kid, because he's like, Alexa, it's asking for something.
	Like, it wants Alexa to play something for the kid.
	What Alexa then does is hilarious.
	Alexa, play digger digger.
	Alexa, play digger digger.
	Bobby, can you talk to play wheels?
	You want to hear a station for porn detected.
	Porno ringtone.
	Hot chick, amateur girl, quality sexy.
	No, no, no, no!
	Pussy anal dildo ringtone.
	Alexa, stop!
	I love that clip.
	It's very funny.
	Out of control.
	I didn't know you could listen to porn on Alexa.
	You want to hear porn detective with dildos and lesbians.
	They are fabulous.
	Very, very good.
	Did you have any tech news you wanted to share with the group?
	I have two more.
	I have two more.
	I have two more here.
	I don't have any tech news at all.
	Okay.
	I have another Amazon, which is just one of these stories and it's end of the year or beginning of the year.
	I cannot believe that anyone is taking this seriously.
	When you think of blimps, you probably picture the Goodyear blimp, maybe the Greenpeace blimp, a border security blimp, or even the Hindenburg.
	When Amazon thinks of blimps, it sees a warehouse in the sky.
	A patent for what Amazon calls an aerial fulfillment center includes drawings of how stuff you buy would be warehoused in the air, then delivered to your home by a drone dropped from the blimp.
	A shuttle would dock in the air to return the drones.
	You killed my husband!
	And resupply the warehouse.
	Scott Hamilton is an aviation industry consultant for Leham Company.
	When we sent him the Amazon patent story, he zeroed in on the potential altitude of the blimps, 45,000 feet.
	You have commercial airliners flying at 41,000 feet, some can go to 43, but then just to have these drones floating down through all the traffic lanes is just loony.
	Amazon is testing drones.
	Earlier this month, the company said it made the first Prime Air delivery to a customer in England 13 minutes after his purchase.
	In this country, the FAA is writing rules for drone package delivery.
	Today, an agency spokesperson wrote to Cairo 7 that the FAA expects to propose a rule for public comment early in 2017 for commercial drone use above some people.
	The FAA says it will also propose a rule next year for flying drones beyond the sightline of the pilot.
	Which of course is something that is now a rule in the United States.
	You can't just fly it without the operator seeing it.
	This is such bull crap!
	This is total, total insanity bullcrap.
	It is a publicity stunt to get the name Amazon out there even more than this.
	I know, but...
	It's a total publicity stunt, and the news media is slapping it up if they're not getting paid to run these stories.
	Which I doubt, actually.
	I doubt.
	I'm doubting that this is a native ad.
	I'm...
	More convinced that they're just stupid.
	I think so, too.
	I just think they're stupid.
	And now listen to this, because, of course, what happens with all of this great technology and robotics and AI is no one will have a job anymore.
	Somehow we'll have money to have Amazon drones drop stuff off.
	CNBC had a conversation about the future of jobs when it comes to artificial intelligence and robotics in the workplace.
	Their conclusion with this expert is fabulous.
	So we move now from Stephen Lieb on China to Amazon on robots.
	And they are implementing robots and the use of them at a rapid, rapid pace.
	But economists have been arguing that jobs and automation actually go, this sounds counterintuitive, hand in hand.
	So let's bring Hillary Vaughn in on this.
	She has the details.
	Hey, Hillary.
	Hey, Connell.
	Well, economists we talked to said artificial intelligence technology could create jobs of the future.
	They'll look a little different than jobs of today, but they'll pay a lot more.
	So what the data actually says is that even though we're at about a 6% job loss today through automation, By 2021, we're going to have eliminated a net 1% more jobs.
	So it's not a huge 6% loss between now and then.
	It's about a 1% change as jobs are lost through automation and created in new industries through automation as well.
	Today, companies like Uber, Netflix, and Amazon are on the front lines of what analysts call digital disruption because they're matching supply and demand through digital platforms and making old ways obsolete.
	So what are your options if your job is phasing out?
	Well, you can either retrain and reskill yourself for a job in an industry that economists say is growing because of AI technology.
	What could those jobs be?
	I ask you, John C. Dvorak.
	A server at McDonald's?
	Close.
	Remember, these are great jobs.
	These are great jobs.
	This is the future.
	And for anyone who's young and listening to our show, these are great jobs.
	Are you ready for your great jobs?
	A guy who goes around with a little scraper and picks up gum from the sidewalk?
	Economists say is growing because of AI technology, which is the healthcare sector.
	Or you can try something different altogether.
	They also say they're seeing an increase of people using skills that they already have to do something else, like driving an Uber car or becoming a dog walker.
	Mobile apps have changed the game and opened up a lot more job opportunities.
	There you go.
	That's your future.
	Driving Uber or a dog walker?
	Yeah, those are great jobs.
	My daughter's a dog walker.
	Yeah?
	Is it a great job?
	I'll tell you this much.
	She puts on like 12 miles a day.
	Well, there's that.
	And I apologize profusely.
	She actually likes walking the dog.
	She's a dog person.
	That's not a future, though, for her.
	She doesn't realize this.
	No, of course not.
	She's just doing it.
	All right.
	I apologize profusely to everyone whose echo device we triggered with that last report.
	So I would like to say, Alexa, play the latest episode of the No Agenda podcast.
	Boom.
	The only good phone's a landline, and the phone should be made out of bakelots.
	That's right.
	That's your tech news for today, everybody.
	You know what we forgot to do?
	I'm going to have to do it on the next show.
	Move it up.
	What's that?
	Adam K., our defense attorney, who donated to the show at the thing.
	I had to put it all aside, but I never sent the information to Eric, so he didn't get mentioned with his $500 donation.
	Let's do it Thursday.
	I'm going to do it Thursday, but I'm just looking at...
	Yeah, okay.
	Good.
	Anyway, sorry, Adam.
	Okay, we're running a little long, John, so if you want to play a couple more things, we should probably wrap it up.
	I got a little...
	You know, the Russian exodus is a funny little report from RT, because apparently they also shut down a lot of the San Francisco operation, the Russians...
	And they got rid of their...
	I guess they got rid of one of the most important guys.
	It must have been a spy.
	If you've been watching a lot of Steven Seagal movies, you might think that.
	So let's play the RT Report on Diplomat Exodus.
	Now, more details are emerging concerning the Obama administration's latest sanctions against Russia for allegedly influencing November's presidential election.
	Thirty-five Russian diplomats were given 72 hours to leave the U.S., and among them is the head chef at the Russian consulate in San Francisco.
	We hate to have to say goodbye to close to a dozen of our colleagues, our friends.
	They will fly back to Russia on December 31st, meeting the New Year while in flight.
	The three kids will not see Santa.
	to finalize their financial affairs, terminate their apartment leases, pack their belongings, as well as to prepare for the long trip.
	Why did it all happen?
	They were qualified as intelligence operatives.
	Bizarre and ridiculous.
	One of the people who was expelled has been the chef of the consulate.
	As part of retaliation for alleged Russian hacking, diplomats in America were also asked to vacate two holiday homes, although no specific reason was given to them.
	One of those is located in Long Island in New York.
	We already got that part.
	Okay.
	But I'm reminded of the Steven Seagal movie.
	Which one?
	I'm just a cook.
	Oh, yeah.
	He's on some ship.
	He's just a cook.
	Just a cook.
	I'm just a cook.
	Mm-hmm.
	There was a BuzzFeed article, of all things, that came out that a lot of people sent to me, and I thought it might be fun because we've talked about the Dutch, how when they speak English they come across as rude, harsh, and I have some of that still even you claim.
	Oh yeah, you do.
	In how I speak?
	Yeah.
	And they, so BuzzFeed listed 17 deeply satisfying Dutch insults we need in English.
	And these are insults that people do use in everyday life, sometimes even on television.
	These are not considered horrible.
	Interesting about them is that a lot of them, the genesis of them is from hundreds of years ago.
	And I thought maybe we'd run through these so you could have a little laugh about Dutch language.
	Well, that's funny you mention this because I do have one little commentary about these old usages that I think need to be revisited.
	Okay, what do you got?
	Well, Mimi and I were talking about something and somebody was drunk and she made the comment.
	Somebody or Mimi?
	Who was it?
	No, she was.
	She never gets drunk.
	Said the person had a snootful.
	Ooh.
	And I realized that that's something my parents used to say, and we laughed about it, because her parents used to say snootful, too.
	The other one, which is that I had an ant attack, as usual.
	Yeah, it happens.
	And these ants got into the soy sauce.
	Oh.
	And I immediately referenced the fact that there's ants in the soy sauce, in the little soy sauce bottle, and it's got the pour thing, the top, the Chinese style.
	And she and I both recognized the old usage, the term that was completely out of favor, but I think could be brought back.
	My dad used to say it.
	Her dad used to say it.
	The reference to soy sauce was always bug juice.
	Ooh!
	My dad would say, pass the bug juice.
	See, bug juice, when I was growing up, was kind of this, like, shitty Kool-Aid that you had at a picnic, and it was like a big batch, and it was watery.
	That was bug juice.
	Oh, no, bug juice.
	And if you think about the soy sauce, it's kind of like, it looks like, you can see it being bug juice.
	Yeah.
	But bug juice, I think, would be something we should bring back.
	Well, let's start with the first one here, which I've used this on the show before.
	The first word is miranoker, which literally means an ant fucker.
	Of course, implied to be as a nitpicker, but miranoker is, and people say this all the time, rotzak, scoundrel, or literally, because all of these are literal, a rotten sack.
	Then we have my favorite, smearlop, which means literally a grease rag, but of course it means dirt bag.
	Now, this one is used so frequently, kutakop.
	And I think parents will even say this to their children sometimes.
	Eh, kutakop.
	It literally means vagina face.
	What's it referring to?
	If you're just more like douchebag, but it's kind of, you know, it's lost a lot of its meaning.
	But there it is.
	Then we have clotesuck, which is literally a testicle sack.
	We have pardalil.
	This is my favorite.
	Oh, you were a big pardalil, which is a horse dick.
	Then this one comes from hundreds of years ago.
	Plurislayer.
	Tuberculosis sufferer.
	And it's often used by, I krijg de pleuris, which means, go get tuberculosis.
	I see the word pleurisy in there as a part of the root.
	Isn't that tuberculosis, pleurisy?
	Yes, pleurisy is tuberculosis.
	And this is, hey, go get tuberculosis.
	You're a pannekoek, which means you're a pancake.
	You are a dose.
	Yeah, you only use this for women.
	She's a dose.
	And D-O-O-S. And that literally means she's a box.
	Coscope, of course.
	Cheesehead.
	We have Optifin.
	Optifin.
	Now this is another one of those old ones, which means literally go and get typhoid.
	Huh.
	Mm-hmm.
	So they wish you ill as part of their...
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Nepethet.
	Nepethet may be wishing you ill.
	Go get sick.
	Yeah.
	Interesting the Dutch do that.
	Kutwijf, which means vagina woman.
	And muffketel, which means a crazy kettle, as in tea kettle.
	And then the final one, which has to be my favorite, afgelikte boterham.
	And this refers to someone who has had a lot of sex, literally an over-licked sandwich.
	Huh.
	That would be the same as slut?
	Uh, yeah.
	Yeah, but you can also use it for men.
	Slut?
	Yes.
	Could be used for men, too.
	Yeah, well, no, you can say, uh, uh, uh, Alright.
	That's useful.
	I thought you would like it more, but I guess not.
	I think that, well, how much do you like it?
	I think there's a couple in there that can be made into little screams.
	Ooh, yeah!
	Don't you think?
	Yes!
	Well, we'll work with Fletcher.
	Yeah, Fletcher does the screams.
	Okay.
	Yeah, let's see if we can get Fletcher to do that.
	It'd be fun.
	A couple choice ones.
	The most offensive.
	Yeah, right.
	I only have one last thing I'd like to share with the group, but if you want to play something before, we can do that.
	Well, let me see what I got.
	The good story, I'm going to move this.
	I can move these.
	I'm going to move this to Thursday, too.
	This is a...
	This is going to be moved.
	This is going to be moved.
	I'm going to move these to Thursday.
	What are you moving?
	What are you moving?
	So I know.
	What are you moving?
	I'm moving second half of show, new radio signals, which would be good.
	I'm moving the trans...
	It's about the aliens coming to kill us all.
	I'm moving the transgender segment to Thursday as well.
	I got a fake news in Germany, which is an RT story, which is about fake news.
	Any good?
	And we have Assange ginned up articles.
	Ah, let's do the Assange.
	Let's do that one.
	It's got everybody bent out of shape.
	And it was the Guardian decided to do a fake news story on what Assange had to say, do it with an interview, I think it was with Glenn Greenwald.
	Yes.
	Greenwald ripped them apart for this, I think.
	Yes.
	Now, the British newspaper The Guardian has been heavily criticized for publishing a summary of an interview with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, which selectively edited his quotes.
	The interview was originally given to the Italian outlet La Repubblica, and the misleading publication went viral on social media.
	Well, another outlet, The Intercept, did write an article explaining why The Guardian's report was actually false news, and we can take a closer look at its findings here.
	First of all, it disproved the fact that Assange gave so-called guarded praise of Donald Trump, saying he neutrally described his predictions for the US election.
	The second point, highlighted, was Assange's long-term relationship with Vladimir Putin, with the only evidence provided his eight interviews he did with us here on RT. Julian Assange has been branded a Moscow stooge before, as some have even called him a useful idiot for appearing in RT. He was also accused of being Putin's puppet after WikiLeaks released documents damaging to Hillary Clinton's campaign.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And the Guardians, shame on them.
	Shame on them for doing that.
	This is all part of a giant, I would say, I wouldn't call it a conspiracy.
	It's just an agreement, a gentleman's agreement.
	They're all going to go after all this stuff.
	Give it to Russia.
	They're horrible for some reason.
	We don't know why, but they're going to keep up this nonsense.
	And this is corrupting all media.
	I mean, these guys, everybody's bent out of shape about Trump winning and it's not ending.
	This is going to continue to be bad.
	This is going to be a great year for the No Agenda show.
	And you will be part of it, everybody listening.
	It will be a fabulous year.
	It's going to be funny, too, I'm thinking.
	We're going to have some laughs.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I don't think it's going to calm down anytime soon.
	No, no, no, no.
	Especially with the guys.
	How did David Corrin end up on the PBS Newsar?
	That show is ever since, I don't know how it happened, but when Glenn died, all of a sudden, this thing is just, the boat is tilted.
	And that is your deconstruction for today, everybody.
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	till then adios mofos and now back to fake news .
	He couldn't get people.
	I mean, not only can he not get A-listers, he can barely get B-listers.
	People, immigrants, like for somebody.
	People, which would directly counter this inauguration.
	Inauguration, according to Ted Ross, he's saying.
	He can barely get B-listers.
	Immigrants, like for somebody who ran a campaign and thanked her.
	Oh, horrible.
	The rights, A-list celebrities that are out there.
	Celebrities are actually clamoring to get in.
	He said the talent of Ted Rossi.
	He's going to be there.
	I get A-list, couldn't get people.
	Brown people.
	Nice, whatever.
	How can you not get A-list?
	How can you not get A-list?
	It started with a poster with just a whole bunch of...
	Brown people, immigrants, women, black and brown people.
	Immigrants, the rights of the beaten, get by on a campaign.
	It's an inauguration, according to Ted Rossi.
	B-list.
	Ceremonies.
	On our doors to do this.
	I mean, I think it's good A-list.
	No, he can really just want to strip right for a while.
	Great thing to get in.
	It's an inauguration, according to Ted Rossi.
	He can grab B-list.
	Celebrities are actually currently... ...beens who said, you want to know why?
	For a number of reasons.
	Celebrate you when you want to literally...
	I don't think I'm going to celebrate you when you want to literally destroy the lives of you, which this person gets sworn in.
	Literally.
	Ted Rossi saying... ...literally.
	...i-30, i-list.
	...something to watch.
	I want to watch this person show solidarity.
	I think it's okay.
	This person don't want to watch.
	E-list celebrities that are out there nasty.
	I think it's okay.
	This person want to watch.
	This person gets... ...feel like, hey, we can do four.
	The basis of...
	So, like, this person gets...
	Hold on.
	So the bass who literally don't want the, the, the, the morning, I think it gives people who literally, and they're gonna make moves, make moves.
	Literally. Literally.
	Literally.
	In the morning.
	Literally.
	In the morning.
	Literally.
	In the morning.
	Literally.
	In the morning.
	Literally.
	In the morning.
	Literally.
	Literally.
	In the morning.
	Literally.
	In the morning.
	Literally.
	In the morning.
	I think there are human beings who said, you wanna know what?
	In the morning.
	I'm going to strip rights away from you?
	In the morning.
	Slamming the UN as just a club for people to get together?
	In the morning.
	There are some rules on the ground now that exist.
	And if you don't live in these communities, We have no idea what it's like in a second war zone.
	To hear the gunshots all night long.
	To hear the gunshots when the children are walking to school.
	To hear the gunshots when you're trying to walk from the bus corner back to your house.
	It is traumatic.
	And it creates a situation that is just untenable.
	Beautiful!
	Yum!
	Adios, mofo.
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