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Dec. 29, 2016 - No Agenda

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	Yes, Russians, the Russians, the Russians are riling up our children!
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	Yes, Thursday, December 29, 2016, this is your award-winning Gibbon Nation Media assassination episode 890.
	This is No Agenda.
	Protecting 2016 from the facebag memes and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet here in FEMA Region 6, Austin Tejas.
	Here in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where Plato's say, woman who deliberately over-decorate her house for Christmas has a lot of balls.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
	Now, is this the desired effect you're going for with your microphone sound?
	Why would I do?
	You sound like you're in a tunnel.
	I didn't change anything.
	You sound fantastic.
	You sound like you're in a tunnel.
	You didn't change anything?
	No, I didn't change anything.
	Oh my god.
	This is very strange.
	What happened?
	Do I sound okay in the tunnel?
	No, no.
	You sound like you're in a submarine, actually.
	I'm in a submarine here in Northern Silicon Valley.
	You're messing with me.
	What did you do?
	It was perfect.
	The minute you said hit it, that's when I heard it.
	I thought I heard it.
	Am I still doing it?
	Yeah, it sounds like you're talking through that can that you always do.
	Really?
	Let me see.
	Oh, oh.
	Oh.
	I'm talking to the back of the mic.
	When I took the mic off to put the shim in, I put the mic upside down.
	Ladies and gentlemen, this is why we are without any doubt, no doubt whatsoever, I don't care what you say, we are the best podcast in the universe!
	Okay, let me put the mic back on the right way.
	Yeah, so those of you who are wondering what's happening here, we had some kind of technical issue.
	Glitch.
	A glitch, yes, indeed.
	We had a little glitch, we jiggled the handle, and that result is John was talking into the back end of the microphone.
	Sound pretty good from the back side.
	Yeah, yeah, award-winning, award-winning sound, John.
	Fantastic.
	This is the Audio-Technica AT2020U. This is a podcasting mic that they make specifically for podcasters.
	Oh, really?
	And my other thing, apparently my audio...
	Your M-Audio.
	My M-Audio device blew up.
	This is the second time in 10 years.
	Maybe the third time, actually, I think about it.
	No, I don't have any.
	I keep track of how many I buy.
	Because you keep them, right?
	You don't actually throw it out.
	No, no, I throw it out.
	I throw out the bad one because I have another one of those old, old ones up at the other house, and I use that up there, and I don't want to have a bad one floating around that could get mixed up.
	Anyway.
	I got you.
	So this is the audio technique of mic, because the other mic was hooked to this other line of stuff that was making a buzzing sound, and I had to move over to this.
	And we wanted to test this mic out anyway.
	Yeah, it could use a little more high-end, pumping as much in as possible.
	Of course, you know, you're coming through Skype, so it always makes it look more complicated, but you sound pretty good.
	If it sounds good, I'm sure that...
	I said pretty good.
	I think this mic is $99 or something like that.
	It's cheap.
	Yeah, it sounds about right.
	And it's a USB mic, so it goes right into the system.
	Yeah, baby.
	Right into the system.
	Direct input.
	Just right in.
	Yeah, great.
	Hey man, how was your Christmas?
	I want to hear all about the meetup, the La La Land, the Disneyland.
	Well, we've got the meetup to talk about.
	We've got Disneyland to talk about.
	I went to see Rogue One.
	I went to the El Capitan to witness the Dolby laser projector on this monstrous screen.
	Right, this is the HDR version of the movie.
	Yes, HDR and all that.
	I want to talk about that, but...
	I think everybody else wants to know about this.
	Did you get married all of a sudden?
	I know I've been playing the wedding bells theme over the years, knowing this was going to happen.
	And you kept telling me, no!
	And I said, yeah, yeah, it's happening.
	And it apparently has.
	And there's some silly little gif with you guys waving your wedding rings.
	Into the camera.
	Well, it's interesting.
	This is a...
	By the way, I want to stop you there.
	Okay, please do.
	You get started.
	It interrupted the meetup.
	It interrupted the meetup.
	Did someone...
	Hold up!
	Breaking news!
	Breaking news!
	So it interrupted an upstage, let's say, the meetup.
	And so we were passing around people's phones showing you and Tina waving your hands in the camera with shit-eating grins on.
	And so that became kind of a point of discussion.
	But I should have called, but I decided, no, we're talking about it on the show.
	That's what we do.
	Of course, that's what we do.
	Well, this was very interesting for a number of reasons.
	Mainly how it's always fun to see how mainstream media works.
	But not just mainstream, how people work in general.
	So this was a test?
	This wasn't real?
	Well, let me tell you the story.
	Okay.
	So, first of all...
	Stop talking.
	I'm going to stop talking now.
	No, I'll need your interaction as we go along.
	Okay.
	So, Tina and I have been together a year and a half.
	And she's been approved by you, obviously.
	And she's the keeper.
	And we really love each other, and we decided that, you know, we'd like to make a commitment to grow old together.
	That was how it started.
	Which, by the way, most people find very cute when they hear that.
	You, of course, laugh.
	Now, I find it cute.
	So I said, you know, let's get some rings.
	It'll be nice.
	And I've been talking about...
	Yeah, look, you can't play instruments.
	That doesn't work.
	I got one.
	Can I do this instead?
	No, no, no.
	No, you can pretty much do...
	That's only after the candles.
	Hold on.
	Now, so we've been talking about this for a while.
	Both of us have been married twice.
	We're not jumping up and down to jump into marriage.
	We have decided next year, summer, when our leases are up, we're going to move in together, get a new place together.
	Uh, and what really was the impetus is I'd been looking for a while for rings.
	I was very specific.
	I wanted to, well, let me just cut to the chase.
	I found brand new.
	They just came out.
	What are you doing, man?
	You're not really interested.
	How long have you been looking for rings?
	Let's go to about three, four weeks.
	Me.
	I was talking about a certain design that I was looking for, and I found it.
	It was already made.
	It is a replica of a magnetic loop antenna.
	A what?
	A magnetic loop antenna.
	You see, we can read each other's thoughts when we're close together, and I wanted to have a broadcast device, and so it resembles a magnetic loop.
	It has the exact same properties.
	And, okay, so I said, will you grow old with me?
	And she said yes.
	I said, will you grow old with me?
	I said yes.
	And that was what we had said yes to.
	Interestingly, every single mainstream newspaper, television show, yes, even the news in the Netherlands, now immediately announced that I had been married for the third time.
	Yeah, I noticed that.
	And, of course...
	That's what made it somewhat mysterious.
	And somebody pointed out, I put it on Twitter, and I said, I'm trying to, the news, I don't know if you got married.
	He's getting married, he's got engaged.
	And then some woman wrote in on the Twitter, she said, why do they have two rings then?
	What does that mean?
	Usually the guy doesn't get an engagement ring.
	The woman does.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, there you go.
	I would never stand for that.
	So that would be the reason it looks like you got married, because you got two rings.
	I don't blame the newspaper.
	No, but they didn't ask me.
	They didn't call me.
	They didn't say, hey, what's going on?
	It was just a fact.
	Fake news.
	Fake news.
	They got my number.
	So nobody...
	Wait, hold on a second.
	Are you telling me that not one member of the media in Holland where they dog you for some reason from many decades ago, they've been dogging you ever since, Not one member of this vaunted crew of journalists even bothered to call to confirm anything?
	They probably couldn't have gotten a scoop.
	Not a single one.
	Huh.
	Not a single one.
	And obviously, hey, let's tweet this out.
	I know what we'll do.
	We'll say, you say it, I say yes, and I'll say I say yes.
	Let's see what happens.
	And also, for us, it's like, I don't have to go explain to everybody what we're not married yet, it's an engagement yet.
	No, screw you!
	That's our private business, how we celebrate our togetherness.
	Well, if it's your private business, why are you posting it on all the social networks?
	Well, I just gave you the answer to see what happened.
	And guess what?
	Exactly what happened is fake news.
	It was just an interesting little experiment.
	And we were, of course, also happy.
	Okay, good.
	So, not Mary John.
	Sorry.
	That's fine.
	Do you have a wager?
	Yeah, I lost 50 cents.
	I should have made a wager with you.
	That would have been better.
	Well, again.
	You even took credit for it.
	What are you talking about?
	You tweeted something.
	I did take credit for it.
	Of course I took credit for it.
	I'm the one that should take credit for it.
	It's all me.
	It is.
	It is true.
	In an odd way, some of that is true.
	And, of course, she also has great health insurance, I have to say.
	That's pretty awesome.
	Now you're talking.
	Yeah, now I get it.
	Now I get it.
	All right, everybody, this is the best podcast in the universe, as you can tell from the snappy banter and the awesome sound quality.
	When you're talking to the back of the...
	And the expertise of our hosts.
	Talking into the back of the mic.
	That's right, everybody.
	That's right.
	If it sounds that good, I'm going to use it more often.
	Hey, we've got to say something right off the bat.
	People.
	2016...
	I don't know if you've been seeing...
	You don't have a face bag, John.
	But this 20...
	Like, 2016 sucked.
	2016 was no good.
	Worst year ever.
	People have turned into blithering morons because celebrities are dying.
	I don't care about anything else, but oh, not another one!
	Oh no!
	Not her mom!
	Celebrities are old, mostly.
	When people think love and like Debbie Reynolds, name one thing Debbie Reynolds did.
	I'm not saying that she didn't have a career, but come on.
	Singing in the rain.
	Yes, it's true.
	No, it's pathetic.
	She actually had a hotel casino in Vegas for a while.
	Yeah, I remember that.
	The Debbie Reynolds Hotel.
	But my point is, yeah, people die.
	You know, there's no life without death.
	Well, I think what's interesting is Debbie Reynolds died the day after.
	I don't think it's interesting.
	I think it's very normal.
	Your kid dies, you're heartbroken, you'd fucking die.
	Yeah, no, I understand.
	I think I would probably...
	Yeah, did somebody take a note of the time code on that one?
	Oh, please.
	Time code, schmime code.
	Yes.
	But to me, it really showed the obsession with celebrities.
	There were a lot of celebrities who died, but there were also other people who died.
	I mean, no one talks about Rick Parfit of status quo who died.
	You know, when Edward Albee died, who's kind of a playwright celebrity, but I don't even remember him dying.
	He died, I guess, in February or something.
	I don't remember anybody paying any attention.
	One of our great players, a guy who was afraid of Virginia Woolf, among other good plays.
	Richard Adams died?
	Who's that?
	Watership Down.
	Oh, yeah, right.
	There's another one.
	Well, I watched the ABC 2016 Rundown.
	Ah, now you're talking.
	I'm sorry.
	Maybe I'll get some clips for Sunday.
	You don't have a clip.
	Oh, damn.
	I don't need clips.
	I'm going to tell you what it is.
	I wanted to say something about this.
	No, go ahead.
	What was on the rundown?
	Celebrities.
	Celebrities.
	Celebrities deaths.
	There was not one mention in the entire two-hour period of Syria.
	No, well, why bother?
	And I wanted to say something about George Michael briefly because I have warned for this.
	I said it was going to happen.
	I'm from the future.
	It wasn't that hard to predict.
	And the hypocrisy, it actually riles me up a little bit.
	George Michael, who I consider to be a great songwriter, one of the best of my time.
	I really loved his songs.
	This guy was a...
	Well, first of all, as I've said many times, when he released in 2008, When George Bush just became president, W, he released the...
	W or HW? W. He released the Shoot the Dog video, which showed Tony...
	It was an animated video.
	Tony Blair as the lapdog of George W. Bush.
	And it was a huge fracas.
	I was like, oh...
	You're horrible.
	It's kind of like the Dixie Chicks, you know, or like Michael Moore when he first railed against the Bush.
	Oh, you can't do this.
	And then he got excoriated.
	Particularly in the UK, it happens.
	Phil Collins, by the way, Phil Collins put him on the Deadpool list.
	He's next to go.
	Phil Collins.
	How old is Phil Collins?
	He's in his 60s.
	Yeah, but he's been ill.
	He ran off with a nanny.
	Phil Collins can't buy a hit anymore in the UK. George Michael was excoriated.
	Now, a couple of things.
	One, this guy, I've had him several times.
	He was in 88, 89.
	He was so afraid that young girls would not buy his music if they found out he was gay.
	He was really, really hushing that up.
	Okay, that's his business.
	Then he was kind of forced out in 89 and 90.
	But he was a drug addict.
	Everybody knew it.
	We all knew it.
	He smoked weed.
	He did coke.
	He did GHB. Coke's bad for the heart.
	Yeah, but everybody knew it.
	Everybody knew it.
	We all knew it.
	And now, oh, love and light.
	Oh, here's me, a picture with George Michael.
	The people who do that, you're fucking sick.
	Timecode.
	You're sick.
	You're sick.
	You did nothing to save this man.
	You don't give a shit about him.
	You don't care.
	You do not care.
	You're now just for your own ego.
	It's disgusting.
	Are you talking to the Facebook people?
	Yes, of course.
	I doubt anybody that listens to this show is on Facebook.
	What do you mean?
	We have a huge Facebook group.
	That really bothers me.
	Hypocrites.
	They're just picking off the cadaver now.
	Oh, yes.
	This is a bunch of brain-dead celebrity mavens.
	This is what I'm saying.
	The 2016 rundown from ABC, which is a Disney channel, was nothing but just celebrity crap.
	And I think that most of the time was chewed up by the Brangelina breakup.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That was the biggest event in 2016.
	You know what's really interesting at this point is we have the Trump inauguration on the way.
	And as we discussed, not a single big brand name celebrity would even consider doing it because they know their career would be over.
	Look at Kanye West.
	He can kiss his career goodbye because of all the things he said.
	I'll have a clip about that in a minute.
	But...
	What I find interesting, and I don't know if it was...
	I can't quite put the timeline together.
	I don't know if they really were trying to find celebrities.
	I think they were.
	I think they really did think they had Elton John, and then that turned out to be not true, or that he didn't confirm, or whatever it was.
	But now the messaging is, hey, this is not about celebrities.
	This is about people.
	It's about the American people.
	It will have an American people celebration, and that's where we don't care about the celebrities.
	However, the...
	This obsession with mainstream media that you cannot do anything, if you don't have the celebrities on your side, well, pfft, pfft, you might, ha ha, I mean, who gives a crap about you if you don't have any celebrities?
	And you recall the Republican National Convention, it was, oh, ha ha ha, they have Scott Baio, they got you, Tchotchke, ha ha ha ha ha.
	Well, let me play for you.
	The co-creator of The Daily Show, Liz Winstead.
	I've never seen this woman.
	And just her opening statement says enough about how this highly political show thinks about celebrities and the necessity for them.
	And, well, just have a listen, as it's all the obsession with celebrities.
	You basically cannot be president of the United States if you don't have celebrities on your side.
	First of all, when you look at Celebrity Apprentice, those were crummy celebrities.
	So, like, the basis of his celebrity outreach is terrible.
	Oh, God.
	Hold on a second.
	So everybody who is on that show, which includes a lot of actual celebrities, not A-list, but...
	Right, right.
	...have now been insulted by this woman.
	Yeah.
	Good to know.
	Because he doesn't have a big pool anyway.
	He's fishing in the B, C, and D Liberty pool, obviously.
	The show is about apprentices that are kind of well-known that are going to learn something.
	They're not going to bring in...
	What do they think?
	John Travolta's going to do the show?
	Are they nuts?
	That's never going to happen.
	I bet you if you asked him, he would.
	I think somebody like Travolta hasn't got the time, or Tom Cruise.
	Tom Cruise is busy.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But then, to me, it was just accentuating the point of how hung up people are on celebrities.
	They're not all we need in culture.
	All right, let's continue.
	First of all, when you look at Celebrity Apprentice, those were crummy celebrities.
	So, like, the basis of his celebrity out...
	Stop, stop, stop.
	Stop, stop.
	This woman sounds like that Vivian Shuler woman with the advertising, whatever you want to call it.
	Doesn't she?
	I'm telling you, it's a genetic type.
	Let's see if I can find that.
	It's a genetic type.
	Like Vivian Shuler?
	Let me see.
	Was it NPR Advertising?
	If I can't find it.
	Rich Rodriguez.
	No, I can't find it.
	Don't worry about it.
	I think you're probably right.
	Here we go.
	Basis of his celebrity outreach is terrible.
	But I think, to your point, when you think of the A-list celebrities that are out there now, women, black and brown people, immigrants, like for somebody who ran a campaign and won an election saying, I'm going to strip rights away from you, I think they're human beings who said, you want to know what?
	I don't think I'm going to celebrate you when you want to literally destroy the lives of me and my family.
	Literally.
	Literally.
	Literally destroy the lives.
	Literally.
	Just coming in there like a bull in a china shop.
	...when you want to literally destroy the lives of me and my family.
	And remember, Elton John performed at Rush Limbaugh's wedding, and it was the same thing.
	Horrible backlash.
	It's like, why would you help celebrate somebody who literally...
	Literally.
	Completely criticizes everything that you're about and your way of life.
	Yeah, I don't think so.
	I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh a lot.
	Does he literally criticize everything about his thinking and his way of life?
	That's all he does.
	Literally.
	Literally criticizes you and your crappy life.
	It completely criticizes everything that you're about and your way of life.
	Yeah, Mark Ross is a concert promoter and the son of the late-time Warner CEO Steve Ross is in the process of putting together a large-scale concert called...
	Oh yeah, this is my favorite.
	This has been brewing for a while.
	It started off with basically a poster.
	Where'd you get this?
	This is MSNBC. Oh, of course.
	Joy Reid, of course.
	The superstar.
	And so it started with a poster with just a whole bunch of names.
	It was a free concert the same day as the inauguration.
	All the celebrities are going to be there.
	We're creating something else for people to watch besides the horrible, horrible ceremony, which will be now the 45th time, the horrible ceremony of swearing in a president.
	No, no.
	We need to create something counterculture.
	And of course, Because it's celebrities, no one will watch the inauguration.
	Everybody will watch the concert.
	Putting together a large-scale concert called We the People, which would directly counter this inauguration.
	According to Ted Ross, he's saying that celebrities are actually clamoring to get in.
	He said the talent is banging on our doors to do this.
	I mean, I think it's great for a number of reasons.
	I think it shows solidarity.
	I think it gives people who literally don't want to watch this person get sworn in.
	Literally.
	Something to watch.
	I think it's always nice to gather around and feel like, hey, we can move forward.
	And I think it's a reminder that Trump couldn't get people.
	I mean, not only can he not get A-listers, he can barely get B-listers.
	I don't think he can get Craig's listers at this point.
	So I think I'm thrilled that people are trying to do anything to counter this.
	Hey, Craiglisters, now you're talking.
	It's disturbing to hear how important...
	The smug jerk-off.
	The fun continued with the traditional year-end winner or loser segment over there at MSNBC. And so this, again, is Joy Reid.
	A.M. Joy, everybody.
	Joy A.M., whatever her show is.
	And she has on...
	The Root political editor.
	Now, The Root, I believe, is a website that is affiliated with NBC, or maybe just MSNBC. Then they have the political editor, Jason Johnson, on, black guy.
	It matters in this case.
	And they do the typical, who's the winner and who's the loser?
	Hilarity ensued.
	Biggest winner, Vladimir Putin.
	He did it.
	He did it.
	He did what Gorbachev couldn't do.
	He did what Castro couldn't do.
	He basically took over the United States and got himself a Manchurian candidate.
	And that is something that no other Russian leader has been able to do.
	And he'll be cheering about this, and this will be in history books for the next 50 years.
	That's amazing.
	Russia emerging as the global hegemon after we defeated them in the Cold War is shocking.
	Exactly.
	It's just shocking.
	It's just shocking.
	What are they talking about?
	He is the Manchurian candidate.
	What show is this?
	Who are these lunatics?
	This is Joy Reid.
	This is MSNBC. It's still on Joy Reid, yeah.
	This is the news channel.
	So, Putin is the big winner because it's unbelievable, the hegemon of the world, because they have the Manchurian candidate.
	Yeah, brother.
	Now, who do you think the loser is, according to political editor of The Root?
	Hillary?
	No, loser.
	Yeah, loser.
	No, no, no.
	He's a loser.
	Exactly.
	With the support of Republicans.
	With the support of Republicans and with the support of our brand new president-elect.
	Yeah, the biggest loser.
	Kanye West.
	And I know it doesn't seem entirely political, but he starts the year with Life of Pablo.
	It seems like it's fine.
	But the problem is he exemplifies what happens when you try and mix pop culture and politics and make the wrong decisions.
	He came out against Black Lives Matter.
	He said that racism is bad.
	And now he's allied himself with Trump, had to cancel concerts.
	People don't respect him.
	People don't like him.
	He may be the only person performing at the inauguration.
	This is a year that shows you keep your politics and your pop culture.
	stop, stop.
	They're condemning him for saying racism is bad?
	Yeah.
	That's what they said.
	Yeah, that's what he said.
	I'm sure they didn't mean to say that, but that's what he said.
	I know.
	I know.
	Kanye knows what he did.
	Remember, this is the whole thing.
	Remember the MTV thing?
	You can keep Kanye.
	We know what you did, Kanye.
	The problem is, he exemplifies what happens when you try and mix pop culture and politics and make the wrong decisions.
	He came out against Black Lives Matter.
	He said that racism is bad.
	And now he's allied himself with Trump, had to cancel concerts.
	People don't respect him.
	People don't like him.
	He may be the only person performing at the inauguration.
	This is a year that shows you keep your politics and your pop culture separate.
	Well, and also remember that hip-hop's origins was always about fighting injustice and being on the side of progressive change, not on the side of Donald Trump.
	Mm-hmm.
	Not on the side of Donald Trump.
	Gotcha.
	That's what hip-hop is all about.
	Not being on the side of Donald Trump.
	Oh, it's painful.
	You know, I do like these periods in between Christmas and New Year because you get a combination of this totally moronic stuff with a bunch of morons, I will say, just talking crap.
	But sometimes they let someone in who's really smart.
	You know, all of a sudden some guy like, oh, hold on a second.
	How did he get on?
	You notice this?
	They have a booking problem in a lot of these networks.
	They can't get enough people, and so somebody worms their way in through a PR person, and then they find out that it's a mistake.
	Right.
	Well, what was interesting is an article came out in Mother Jones, which, of course, by many is seen as a bastion of free, independent journalism, which I'm pretty sure they're not.
	I'm pretty sure they receive plenty of government funding.
	I could be wrong, but we've looked at them.
	I'm not necessarily...
	I don't see them getting government funding.
	We could look at it again.
	What did they get?
	I don't want to say Soros.
	That's too easy.
	Well, beside the point, let's go ahead.
	The perception is that they're independent.
	The perception is that they're independent, yes.
	I thought they got money from the...
	Didn't they get money for the National Endowment for Democracy?
	I have no idea.
	Anyway, so on the screen here, in the shot, MSNBC again, we're going to have the author of this article.
	Here's the intro to it.
	A report from Mother Jones claims a Russian operation has been working for years to cultivate and assist Donald Trump.
	Now the story says that a former senior intelligence officer claims he gave the FBI evidence that, quote, there was an established exchange of information between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin of mutual benefit.
	The former spy also reportedly said the FBI responded to the evidence with, quote, shock and horror And the spy believes an FBI investigation is underway.
	Okay.
	So that obviously caught my attention.
	I like the idea of using a character as one of your mystery men on the show and just call him the spy.
	The spy.
	And the spy says this.
	And the spy says that.
	And the spy says this.
	And he reports back that they were stunned by this revelation.
	Well, that's kind of what it is, because once you got the guy on, but forget his name, once you got him on, that's pretty much what it is.
	You know, well, the spy said this, and the spy, you're like, what?
	I met this for...
	What's his name?
	Corn?
	David Corn, I think, is his name.
	Does that make sense?
	David Corn?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Corn?
	Yeah, David Coyne.
	He's the worst.
	Tell me about him.
	What do you know about him?
	Well, he's like, he was with The Nation.
	He's with one of these news magazines.
	Look him up.
	Google him.
	Or not Google him.
	Find what magazine he works for.
	He is on MSNBC all the time with the worst material.
	It's just like, it's just crazy.
	He's the closest thing to the babies in the cow udder or whatever it was.
	Babies and cows?
	Is that what you're talking about?
	Yeah, babies and cows.
	God, for 25 years, they've been growing babies and cows!
	It's called a cast, by the way.
	And, yeah, well, it makes nothing but sense because he's talking out of his butthole.
	I met this former senior intelligence officer who's really an expert and specialist in Russian counterintelligence for an intelligence service that we all would respect and learned that he had been sending very detailed memos to the FBI throughout much of the summer based on his own work that he did with Russian sources.
	Hold on a second.
	That's...
	Let's start with the premise here.
	Whoops.
	Damn it.
	Let's start with the premise.
	You have a senior intelligence officer with some well-known agency, which has to be one of two or three of them.
	Is he talking about a U.S. agency, or is he talking about FSB? Or is he saying it's a counter-spy for one of our agencies who's over there reporting back?
	Well, whoever it is, he's not going to talk to David Korn under any circumstances.
	Ever.
	It's just not going to happen.
	He's not...
	You can't do that.
	It's like, you know, this is a good way to get your ass in a sling.
	I agree.
	So that's not happening.
	So the premise is off.
	You doubt the integrity of Mother Jones?
	And so I see it as either the guy's just a BS artist, which would be great to get one of these, and then just make stuff up and tell him all this crazy stuff.
	The second thing is, if he is doing anything like he describes, he's not reporting to the FBI ever.
	The FBI, he doesn't work for the FBI. They don't cut him checks.
	He's not calling them up and telling them stuff to do.
	This is bull crap.
	That he did with Russian sources that was indicating that there had been a Russian operation to, for a couple years now, to co-opt and cultivate Donald Trump.
	And he believes, you know, in terms of the response he got from the FBI, they asked him for more information, and he provided it, that this was a subject matter that they were, of course, keenly interested in.
	Was he able to reveal to you what information he provided?
	Well, I saw some of the memos he sent.
	Oh, crap!
	Yeah, there were faxes, probably.
	Here, take a look at my top secret memos.
	David Korn, who I don't know from Adam.
	Here, read my top secret memos, because I don't care about my job or security or anything.
	I'm a crappy spy, to be honest about it.
	And in the memos, he doesn't identify the sourcing by name, but though he describes it, and I'm sure to the FBI he could give the actual names.
	But it'd be something like a foreign minister official, a former Russian intelligence officer, or somebody who was at the hotel when this meeting happened says this, that, the other thing.
	So that's sort of the level...
	Wait a minute, wait.
	Now there's your spy craft right there.
	This, that, and the other thing.
	What did the guy say?
	Well, you know, he said...
	And says this, that, the other thing.
	Yeah, this, that, the other thing.
	You know, it's fact!
	Fact check, false, I say.
	So that's sort of the level of detail that he would get into.
	Yeah.
	And if you read the article, it's very long, and it's just as dumb as this, pretty much.
	But, the reason I bring up Putin...
	It's because we have a new jingle to play.
	And whenever we have a new jingle, I get really excited, particularly if they're really good.
	I think you might want to be sitting down for this one, Joe.
	I'm sitting down.
	I'm ready.
	If you're blue and you don't know where there's fake news, why don't you get your Gitmo fix?
	Food and all the rest.
	Dressed up like a million dollar trooper.
	Trying not to look like Anderson Cooper.
	Super Cooper.
	Come, let's mix where John Podesta walks with kids.
	Oh, I mean pizzas in his midst.
	Hooten on the Ritz.
	Hell yeah.
	That was good.
	Who did that?
	Secret Agent Paul.
	He's done all the good.
	Really, if you look, he's done...
	He can sing.
	He's got a nice mocking voice.
	Chops.
	Chops.
	Well, he's done...
	He's got chops, yes.
	Diane Sawyer drunk again.
	He's done F Cancer.
	The El Shabab Shabab.
	Al-Qaeda Elvira.
	I mean, the guy's done so much.
	I'm glad he has enough time on his hands to throw us a bone.
	He actually doesn't have a lot of time on his hands.
	No, that's what I'm thinking.
	That's what I meant.
	Obviously, a guy like that is busy.
	The problem with the creative types, if I may interrupt, is that a lot of them, especially if they're no-agenda people, something will come to them that is like a no-agenda-related little jingle like that, And because of your creative, you actually have to get it out of your system.
	Yes, you're spot on.
	You gotta do it.
	Or it'll sit there and fester.
	Yes, exactly.
	And it'll clog you up.
	And so he had to do that to get it out of the system.
	And okay, now I get back to my real job.
	Yeah, good.
	Nice, made it.
	Yeah, you're right.
	You're right.
	That's great.
	Okay, so while we're talking about Putin, there are a couple of things that are interesting that happened just in the last 24-48 hours.
	And I believe these two news stories are related.
	There is now a deal, an oil deal, between Eni and Rosneft.
	So Eni is the Italian...
	Oil company.
	Rosneft being a Russian oil or gas.
	I'm not sure.
	I guess it's oil.
	Rosneft, I think, is mostly gas, isn't it?
	I'm looking at the article.
	No, it says oil giant Rosneft.
	Okay, so they're taking a 30% stake in the giant Zor gas field, which is offshore of Egypt.
	My point being that there are now moves and we're seeing stakes in oil companies And of course, my assertion has always been this whole thing started with an argument over whose pipeline.
	Was it either going to be Russia's pipeline, Iran, Iraq, Syria, boom, up to Cyprus, then into Greece, into Europe, or was it going to be Qatar and Saudi Arabia and the Turks?
	And you can clearly see that all of a sudden, you know, hey, those guys seem to be fighting those guys, so maybe it is all about that.
	So this says, now shares are being sold back and forth And Putin, I guess last night, announced ceasefire agreements in Syria, three documents signed.
	Seems that maybe we have something happening, which of course is happening without the watermelon head, which must irk him to no end.
	I don't know if that guy can actually be irked.
	Well, he got an earful.
	So, staying on Putin for a moment.
	A sit-down.
	This is an interesting little ditty.
	Lindsey Graham and John McCain were doing interviews together.
	Like an old gay couple sitting next to him with a fireplace in between him.
	Did you see this?
	It's pretty funny.
	I don't know who advised him on that.
	Somebody with a sense of humor.
	Oh, that's true.
	He's had multiple opportunities, and I do want you to answer, Senator Graham, to both before and after the election to accept that assessment, and yet he's doubled and tripled down on talking about a cozy relationship with Putin, denying the intelligence community's assessment.
	What are you going to do, Senator Graham and Senator McCain, if he doesn't change his tune, in effect, on Russia?
	There are 100 United States Senators.
	Amy Klobuchar is on this trip with us.
	She's a Democrat from Minnesota.
	I would say that 99 of us believe the Russians did this, and we're going to do something about it.
	Along with Senator McCain, after this trip's over, we're going to have the hearings, and we're going to put sanctions together that hit Putin as an individual and his inner circle for interfering in our election.
	And they're doing it all over the world, not just in the United States.
	Estonia is hit all the time.
	They're interfering in elections and democratic countries' efforts to self-determination all over the world.
	It's just not in our backyard.
	Oh, man.
	That guy is ruining everybody's day.
	That's no good.
	Oh, yeah.
	I've said this before.
	I want to say it again.
	All right.
	Wait to the Republicans who took this election.
	They got the House.
	They got the Senate.
	They got the president.
	They wouldn't have gotten the president.
	The only thing they may have hacked would be the DNC, even though all evidence points to the guy who was shot dead in the streets, who was working for the Republican Party and decided that they were bad actors when it came to Bernie.
	He was working for the Democratic Party.
	Yeah, I'm sorry, he was working for the Democratic Party, and then he saw what was going on with Bernie, how they were screwing him over, so they released his stuff to WikiLeaks.
	That's really the easiest thing.
	The Podesta emails were a simple phishing expedition that anybody could do if they just go to, you know, the dark web and look up, get a few scripts, you can do it yourself.
	So the record...
	Russia's involvement is zero the way I see it.
	But that's okay.
	Let's blame them.
	And then we can also say to ourselves, as Republicans, we probably would have lost.
	It would have been Hillary as the president.
	I mean, is that what they're trying to do?
	Put Hillary in?
	What is wrong with these people?
	Well, this only solidifies the argument that political parties are both owned and operated by the same people on the back end.
	It's all about the money.
	It's the military industrial complex.
	Although I believe Donald Trump is going to up the spending more than we even can believe, I think.
	Yeah, probably.
	And then the complaining will stop.
	Yeah, although the NDAA, which President Obama signed stealthily Friday, that actually, as we read, increases the money, the budget, by $3 or $5 billion.
	That's on the numbers that we can see.
	And it increases personnel.
	We read those amendments.
	So it's actually more money going in than was expected.
	A correction I have to point out.
	Incorrectly, on the previous episode when we were talking together, 888, we misidentified McCain as being a prisoner of war of Korea instead of Vietnam.
	Right.
	Although the point remains the same.
	Actually, the Vietnam War was a proxy war.
	The Russians were helping the North Vietnamese because the Chinese wouldn't.
	Right.
	So there's two things I want to say about this.
	By the way, the guy who told us this got really bent out of shape about it.
	I blocked him.
	It was so annoying on my email.
	Well, you know, he was being a little shit.
	Time code.
	Because he was being annoying.
	He was being annoying about it.
	But he said, hey, yeah.
	I mean, all he had to say was, hey, you messed up.
	And we say, oh, yeah, shoot, you're right.
	Now, my disappointment is in the chat room.
	They may have been screaming we had done it wrong.
	Because of all the comedians in the chat room, I can't always catch everything out of the corner of my eye.
	So, guys, work with the program.
	And don't be all...
	I mean, you should have seen the Reddit, John.
	Like, we can't trust them anymore!
	If they can't even get that right, what else is wrong?
	They're horrible!
	They're Trump supporters!
	And this never ends.
	You got a new voice you're using.
	Yeah, that's a pretty good one.
	The evil Reddit.
	Evil Reddit.
	I don't even know.
	Well, I do have a fake...
	I have a German connection to your last story.
	If you're going to play it...
	I know exactly what you're going to do.
	Let's play it.
	I love this.
	This is fantastic.
	This is a clip.
	Fake news in Germany.
	Yes.
	And now the fear of perceived propaganda or fake news has spread to Europe.
	Stop right there.
	All of a sudden...
	And I thought this switcheroo was quite entertaining.
	They have switched...
	And I think this is something that's going on in all the media.
	Fake news is not fake news like crazy news that's got nothing to do with anything.
	Fake news now equates to Russian, specifically, she didn't say it.
	Specifically, fake news equals Russian propaganda, Russian disinformation.
	Isn't that fascinating?
	No, it's beautiful the way that goes.
	And now the fear of perceived propaganda or fake news has spread to Europe.
	In Germany, there are concerns that its 2017 parliamentary vote will be undermined.
	Peter Oliver explains.
	We saw it in the United States.
	Now, fake news from Russia is being touted as the biggest threat to the 2017 Bundestag election in Germany.
	We are having to deal to some extent with information coming out of Russia as well as cyber attacks originating from Russia.
	Coping with this is an everyday task for us.
	Over the last couple of months, Germany's security bigwigs have been preparing us.
	There is growing evidence of attempts to influence the Bundestag election in the coming year.
	We expect a further increase in cyberattacks in the run-up to the election.
	In fact, Germany is so concerned about fake news, the 2017 will see the establishment of the country's own defence centre against disinformation.
	Nothing at all like Orwell's Ministry of Truth.
	Writing up some fake news Trying to get cheap clicks and top-page views Writing up some fake news Thank you, Bob Seger.
	Bob Seger, always.
	You kind of stepped on the punchline, but that's okay.
	No, I heard it.
	Well, do you want to reiterate it then?
	I'm sorry.
	I didn't mean it.
	Yeah, he was just making fun of the fact that this is the Ministry of Truth from 1984.
	Yeah.
	Um...
	So this is interesting.
	This is not law yet.
	This is a little different than the way that we did it.
	We just, after the fact, dreamed this crap up.
	They're doing a pre-announcement.
	Yeah, and of course, this is not law yet.
	This is something that they want to put on the books, and they're talking about a 500,000 euro fine per fake news item.
	And really, that's the number.
	Stick the fork in them.
	See, what Facebook did wrong, and Twitter now is also saying, oh, we're a media company.
	This is about the dumbest thing you can do.
	Hello, Yahoo!
	This is the Yahoo!
	How many times, oh, Yahoo, we're a media company.
	They had 15 CEOs.
	Oh, we're a media company.
	The minute you start, you have the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
	And you can have a safe harbor.
	If you say, hey, you know, we don't edit anything.
	People put stuff up there.
	You know, if you've got a legal thing, we'll take it down.
	But now, once you get into the business of actually changing content, deleting it, editorializing, then you no longer qualify under the safe harbor stipulation.
	So these guys will get regulated out of business.
	It's goodbye.
	Goodbye.
	I agree with this.
	In fact, I've written about this years ago.
	When the issue first came up with the early, like even MySpace and some of these things before that, they made a huge point that we got nothing to do with what these people are posting.
	Yeah.
	If we had something to do with it, then you could sue us, but we got nothing to do with it.
	We're just like a common carrier, is what they used to always say.
	We're like the phone company.
	The phone company doesn't regulate the conversation between you and another guy.
	And that's what we're doing here at GeoCities.
	So now, these idiots, and I agree with you 100%, this is the stupidest thing you could do.
	Yes.
	Which is to all of a sudden say that now you're a media company.
	So now you're liable for everything.
	So dumb.
	So they're going to get like slander suits, libel suits, this sort of thing, go right after Twitter.
	They got the money.
	This poor schmuck that posted that you're a moron, he hasn't got any money, but you can say, well, Twitter, would a Twitter approve it?
	I can't believe, this is the naivete This is the naivete.
	I wrote about this.
	Naivete of people who actually believe they own the truth.
	That's the naivete.
	Well, no, it's the naivete of the Silicon Valley mentality.
	This is the same thing with Uber.
	When they decided all of a sudden that they don't need permits from the state of California to run autonomous tests all over the place, killing people.
	They don't care.
	No, no, we don't have to take your permits.
	Screw you.
	By the way, the Associated Press has heard you.
	And in their most recent style guide, here is a rule.
	Services such as Uber and Lyft are ride-hailing services or ride-booking services.
	Don't call them ride-sharing services.
	Very good, John.
	That's where the white right hailing comes from.
	That makes sense.
	Anyway, this is the kind of dumb, this is the naivete of the kind of millennials that are running Silicon Valley, these sorts of companies.
	Not all of them, obviously.
	But they're dumb.
	They don't know what the heck's going on.
	And they're making these sorts of errors that have been already, we've already gone through this in the 80s.
	Just look at Yahoo!
	Look at Yahoo!
	Are you blind?
	Yes, well, there's Yahoo.
	Yahoo was the media company.
	Remember they brought in Terry?
	What was his name?
	Well, Terry Semmel came in, and he was going to turn into a massive media company, and then they clapped out.
	AOL Time Warner.
	Massive media company.
	We're going to rule everything.
	Right, that fell apart immediately thereafter.
	It just failed merger in history, pretty much.
	Yeah, I'd say.
	Well, these guys are making mistakes.
	Yes, and it was kind of a little bit of a side note.
	I got an email from President Obama.
	I got an email from President Obama.
	Oh, you did?
	He says, hey, would you like to receive a handwritten thank you note?
	I'm like, yeah, I want that!
	I'll go perfect with my Hillary Clinton invitation to the White House.
	I didn't get this memo.
	I'm on his list.
	I donated to everyone's campaign.
	That's how I got all the...
	Well, you got to the A-list.
	Or what they call in the mail order business, the hot list.
	I'm on the hot list.
	So I'm like, yeah, I want that.
	Fill out my name.
	Boom, boom, click.
	Okay.
	Oh, yes.
	Next page.
	Yeah, but do you want to support Democrats?
	I'm like, no.
	No way to skip it.
	So you're forced.
	You're forced.
	Into paying, which I didn't do, of course.
	You had to pay?
	If you want the thank you note.
	Oh, that stinks.
	What does he need money for?
	Is he running again?
	For the Democratic National, for the DNC. But then I got follow-up emails.
	You're almost there.
	One more step.
	You almost have to thank you.
	And I'm like, I'm not going to do that.
	But then they sent me another note.
	Become a factivist.
	Ooh.
	Yeah.
	Hold on.
	Let me write that down as a showtime.
	I know.
	I know.
	Factivist.
	I'm pulling up the email now.
	Who calls me up with that one?
	Want to get exclusive news and updates about Donald Trump and his fellow Republicans and share the facts about the GOP with your friends and family?
	Sign up to become a factivist.
	Woo!
	So I sign up?
	Sure you do.
	Next page?
	Donate!
	No!
	I don't want to pay you to be a factivist.
	Why should you have to pay to be a factivist?
	Well, it's obviously a ruse.
	It's just a way to get on a mailing list.
	It's a ruse!
	It's a ruse.
	So you never got your signed thank you note?
	No, because I didn't pony up.
	No, I didn't chip in.
	Chip in.
	Chip factivist.
	Gary Jungling, producer of the show, recalled as regards to fake news.
	A PSA we played on episode 571, May 30th, 2013.
	He actually sent me the clip from the show, but I went back and got the original PSA, which was from the National Association of Broadcasters.
	It was your clip, and I thought it was kind of interesting in the context of fake news today, what the NAB was talking about just three, about four years ago.
	In times of joy, in moments of grief, we are there.
	When the world looks for truth...
	Broadcasters come through, even when all else fails.
	Today, with more ways than ever to experience the moments that transform our lives, Americans still choose broadcast television and radio more than all other media combined.
	Television and radio are still the most trusted sources for news and entertainment.
	And our web and social sites are among the most visited sites in our daily lives.
	When important moments happen, both big and small, we're the first informers to history.
	We are the pioneers, the innovators, the local broadcasters of radio and television.
	Reaching more people.
	Touching more lives.
	Fact check false.
	Wasn't that great?
	We.
	Yeah!
	We are the trustable.
	I got that.
	We are trustable.
	You can trust us.
	Hey, hey, hey!
	You read that.
	Fake news.
	All right, everybody.
	That's it.
	Ping pong balls of fake news.
	Yes.
	Love it.
	Alright, well I can talk about it.
	I still want to talk about it.
	Take a break and talk about the party, the meetup.
	A little bit.
	Yeah, I'd love to hear a little bit about it.
	Now, did you do Disneyland the first day or the second day?
	We did Disneyland on Christmas.
	Oh, then you should do it in order.
	Talk about Christmas first.
	Let's see, what do we do first?
	First we went to dinner, I think, at a cafeteria.
	Well, not that easy.
	Okay, we go to Disneyland, and we leave early.
	I have to say this, I've never seen anything quite like this, and we were stunned, I say, by the freeway traffic on Christmas.
	It was like, it's like the world had ended and nobody was out.
	They were all gone, they all left the area.
	I have never seen traffic like this.
	There was nobody on the roads.
	And apparently what was going on was they were already at or going to Disneyland.
	I talked to one of the police guys as we went into Disneyland, which was all dolled up for Christmas.
	And in fact, they rewrote a number of the rides and the storylines in the rides themselves for Christmas.
	I'm under the impression that from Halloween until New Year's, for example.
	The Haunted House ride?
	Totally different ride.
	If you haven't been on the Haunted House ride...
	I've been on the Haunted House ride at Halloween.
	Yes, it is different.
	Totally different ride.
	And the one that's a real head-scratcher, even though some people didn't want to go on it, but we did.
	At least half of the family did.
	Is the Fairy Dirtland ride.
	Which is also known as It's a Small World.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's a small world after all.
	That song is just now part of a medley of tunes for the Christmas period, which is mostly jingle bells, jingle bells, and all the rest of these Christmas.
	All this low end, and they've changed everything in size.
	What happened?
	And so that was interesting, and they've also lengthened the ride.
	I took a movie of it, of the entire ride.
	Wow, there's some copyright violations somewhere.
	Oh, there's tons.
	It's all copyright violations.
	I'll post it, and they'll let it be taken down.
	And it's 16 minutes.
	Wow, that's pretty long.
	They've lengthened the ride, it seems.
	And, of course, it was also bumping into...
	It was loaded with...
	Traffic was in the...
	Little boats were bashing into each other constantly.
	Same thing with Pirates of the Caribbean, although they didn't change the storyline.
	They put Christmas gifts everywhere.
	And also, the African ride where you go through Africa in a boat...
	They had coins for gifts.
	That totally changed.
	They got...
	The elephants and everything are in Santa suits and they've got crap hanging off of them.
	It's ridiculous.
	Were any of the Dvorak's high when you went there?
	No, I was thinking it would have been a good idea.
	If you had me out there, I would have arranged it.
	Now, the thing is, is that I was told by one of the police security guys, because we chatted with him, we're waiting for people, and he says, oh, Christmas is the most crowded period ever.
	Every year, it's the same.
	He says, do not leave the park.
	He says, if you leave the park, you'll never get back in, because every year, the fire marshal shuts it down.
	Oh, okay.
	No more people are allowed in!
	Oh, good tip.
	And so we stayed in there, watched all the way to the fireworks, and then we left.
	And I thought it was, you know, it was so crowded that it was actually interesting.
	It was so crowded because they...
	They're struggling with trying to keep, you know, people getting on and off rides.
	It looks like it was just a total struggle.
	We finally went to this restaurant, the Blue Bayou, which is next to Club 33.
	I'll post a picture of myself standing next to the Club 33 door.
	Isn't that burned down?
	No, this is the Disney Club 33.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I know that one.
	It's not a disco.
	It's a lounge.
	Yeah, inadvertently, every year we get about 15 emails of people saying, I found Club 33 in Disneyland!
	Yeah.
	So the Bayou Place is not recommended.
	Well, at least on a crowded day.
	I thought, for one thing, it's pitch black inside and you can't see your own food.
	I find that annoying.
	And it's got some...
	And then the boats from the Pirates of the Caribbean go right by it.
	So these guys are watching us eat.
	That's kind of my report from Disney.
	I thought it was fun.
	It was fun.
	Alright, thank you.
	We'll continue with this story in the next break, if you like it.
	How about, you don't want to talk about the meet-up, or you want to do that at the...
	No, well, I'm going to do an order, like you insisted.
	I have to talk about the Disney movie next.
	The Rogue One.
	Yeah, do that.
	We'll talk about the meet-up in the second segment.
	That'll be Block D. Okay.
	Rogue One.
	So we went to the 9 a.m.
	showing...
	And I'd say in this theater, huge theaters, anyone who goes to Los Angeles, if you go to the El Capitan, watch a movie.
	It's one of the great experiences that you'll ever have.
	It's a beautiful place, and it's owned by Disney.
	So they got it all fixed up.
	So when you watch the movie, there's not only just the movie, but there's a bunch of actual star troopers walking around, and they come off behind the stage.
	There's a guy who gives a lecture before the movie begins.
	There's smoke in the theater.
	How much was the ticket?
	What was the ticket price?
	20 bucks each.
	Okay.
	And so, yeah, I think it's 20.
	But anyway, it was nice.
	You know, if I took five people, it's 100 bucks.
	You know, it's better to donate.
	Yeah.
	So they have this new, they've got the new Dolby sound, which sounds like the old Dolby sound to me.
	And they got the new laser projector, which does, I think, has a negative attribute, which is this HDR. Makes it so everything in a dimly lit scene, you can see all the details because of the high dynamic range of the gamut is bigger and the color dynamic range is bigger.
	And so this is just going to encourage people to shoot in the dark, it seems to me.
	I'm not sure it's a good thing.
	Because that movie was dubiously lit.
	I thought the movie was, personally...
	Except for they had some people that were not there, they were dead for years, and they still have them acting.
	Oh.
	Because what they've done is they've gotten to the idea where they can just, they code somebody's face with a bunch of dots or something, and then they can transpose somebody else's face on their face, and then they can act with somebody else's face on them.
	This technology is, I mean, it really does work.
	I mean, I've been dead for years.
	That worked so well that when the movie was over, everybody talked about it, but I said, what?
	Because I guess they read about it in advance, because I didn't even notice it wasn't the same guy, but then I think about it.
	This is the old man from the 1977 movie.
	How could he possibly be alive?
	Right, right.
	One of the evil guys in a lieutenant or something.
	And then Carrie Fisher, she's in the movie?
	Yes, but it's not her either.
	They just mapped her face onto something, and I think I heard an interview with her where she says she didn't even give permission for it.
	She says she was annoyed by this.
	And it looked like her.
	I thought it was actually her, a little older, but it mapped an older face, it seems.
	I don't know.
	But that was kind of, that was very interesting, and I have to, kudos to that.
	But the story, that's the whole thing, everybody dies, and, you know, it's explained to me that they were said to have died in the 77 film, and I'm saying, well, okay.
	I didn't think much of it.
	I thought it was pretty.
	And the action scenes were dynamite.
	But yeah, I don't know.
	I think I'm losing interest in this Star Wars franchise.
	The thing is, I think Disney was going to really start emphasizing this.
	Everyone's going to go see this movie.
	Well, you know why?
	I have to say that with the amount of people who died in 2016 and the amount of time was spent for tributes, it was pretty much all spent on the only tribute that made sense from a commercial aspect, which is Star Trek.
	So we don't want to talk about anything that doesn't have any commercial purpose at the moment.
	Or Star Wars.
	Star Wars.
	There you go.
	Star Wars, I mean, yeah.
	You got a dead actress.
	Oh, let's talk about that the whole time.
	And every single story was about Star Wars.
	Every story.
	Yeah.
	There's a lot of tie-ins.
	So it's going to do very well commercially, but I think people are going to I don't think this is going to continue.
	I think they're going to bank on this or the Star Wars thing.
	We've got it made forever.
	I don't think so.
	I think this thing is dying on the vine.
	Personally.
	Personally.
	It wasn't really an interesting story.
	It was a kind of a Suspenseful, shoot-em-up kind of, no plot.
	Right.
	We gotta get this, the map.
	Yeah, okay.
	Okay, let's go get the map.
	Yeah, so I don't need to see it.
	You don't need to see it.
	No, no.
	That's what I, I would say yes, you don't need to see it.
	I watched that, Christina and I watched that Woody Allen movie, the new one that Netflix, that Amazon paid for.
	Well, it's not a movie.
	It's a series.
	No, he has a movie out just released on Amazon.
	Paid for by Amazon.
	What's the name of it?
	It's so bad, I can't even remember the name of it.
	It's with Jeffrey Eisenberg and...
	Hold on.
	Amazon.
	Here we go.
	What's it called?
	It's Cafe something.
	Cafe Society, I think.
	Oh, Cafe Society.
	Yes.
	Cafe Society.
	Well, we saw that at the theater, yeah.
	You saw it on the TV. I think it was a theater thing.
	I liked it.
	I did not like the ending.
	What was the ending?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Well, sometimes we watch movies.
	Oh, the ending was so great.
	What was the ending?
	They both were in love with each other.
	They were married to other people.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, it was sad forever.
	They're going to be sad forever.
	Oh, that's because you're getting married and this kind of movie is not for you.
	Oh, please.
	Oh, please.
	I'd like to thank you for your courage to say in the morning to you, John C. Where the C stands for Christmas at Disneyland.
	In the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning to all ships at sea.
	Boots on the ground, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	Are you talking in the butt of your microphone again?
	Yeah, it's the back of the mic.
	Hello, hello.
	It doesn't have the same effect as it did previously.
	Oh, sorry.
	In the morning to the chat room, noagendastream.com.
	Everybody, good to see you there.
	Merry Christmas to you.
	In the morning to Martin J.J. He brought us the artwork for episode 889er, which was our Christmas special.
	The artwork was Santa being hounded by an F-14, kind of an old-school retro.
	And obviously, thank you to Sir Ramsey Cain for putting that together for us.
	Truly fabulous.
	And thank you to all our artists, obviously.
	And thank you, I guess I should say, because I already bitched about it.
	Comic strip blogger, you used his artwork in the newsletter.
	They did.
	He's like, I got used in the newsletter and all I got was this lousy t-shirt.
	No credit.
	You need to put credits in the newsletter now.
	People are complaining, John.
	No, people aren't complaining.
	Yeah, no.
	People aren't complaining.
	Comic strip bloggers complaining.
	Yes, but we appreciate the work of all of our artists, as always.
	I didn't know he got the newsletter.
	So you spend $100 on tickets, probably another $50 at least on some shitty drinks.
	I didn't buy anything.
	No one had anything to drink?
	No, they did, but I didn't.
	Jesse posted on Facebook this morning.
	Oh, and...
	I'm sick.
	I guess I won't be traveling when pregnant anymore.
	And I'm like itching to place a comment, you know.
	Oh, she has a cold?
	She's sick, she says.
	Yeah, she probably has a cold.
	Yeah.
	Well, yeah, you're traveling with mobs and mobs of people.
	It was the pregnant thing.
	Don't mind.
	It's a throwback.
	Callback.
	Okay, well, I'm not going to delve into it.
	Let's thank a few people for show 890.
	Came in as show 890, 889.
	889 was a clip show.
	Yes.
	Since show 890, Ty Tran and Wanaru, 888.88, so there's still a little carryover from the 888.88 era.
	A merry X-mas to everyone in no agenda land.
	Being Chinese, I felt, ah, finally!
	There we go.
	Someone gets it.
	Being Chinese, I felt obligated to chime in with the donations to celebrate this occasion.
	Here's another 888 shows of the best podcast in the universe.
	Thank you.
	Thank you so much, Ty.
	It says go podcasting.
	And I do want to mention, I don't know if I said it before, but Tina and I are seriously in the pre-planning stages for a trip to New Zealand and Australia around April.
	May.
	Okay.
	Good.
	Are you going to have a meet-up while you're there?
	The whole point is to meet everybody.
	Everybody in Australia, be aware.
	And New Zealand.
	What places are you going to go?
	Well, the only place we're not going to go to is Perth, which of course is the most beautiful place in Australia, but it just doesn't make any sense.
	So, you know, Melbourne, Sydney, up to the Great Barrier Reef, New Zealand, Christchurch, and well, the people are going to tell us now that they know.
	But I'm very much looking forward to meeting everybody.
	It's been way too long since I've been in Australia.
	And it'll be a fun trip.
	Sounds like it.
	Okay, onward.
	Marshall Scapula in Henderson, Nevada.
	The little town of Henderson.
	888.88.
	He's still there.
	And he did send a note in because he was expecting this thing to show up on show 888, which is two shows ago.
	He says, Dear John and Adam, wonderful analysis of everything.
	I love it.
	You are the only podcast I regularly listen to.
	Screw PayPal via snail mail.
	I've sent you a lucky sack of eights.
	However, I'd like to think of it as a sack of boobs.
	Tiny boobs.
	Use this donation well and continue your vow of poverty.
	One thing has been bothering me.
	Kudos to Adam for starting the donation segment tightly.
	Thinking you have completed your diatribe, only to find you have a little more to say.
	This is tragically funny.
	Get some hand signals or something.
	It's the 21st century, for God's sake.
	A big red light.
	Who am I kidding?
	It's too hilarious.
	Keep up the good work.
	Please give Tony Farmer some acting karma.
	Really, he's about to burst through to stardom.
	Give Mark Ross a douchebag call-out.
	Douchebag!
	But especially, and most importantly, give my lovely wife some business karma.
	Last year it worked so well.
	I finally finished up with a montage of Mr.
	Sharpton.
	Can't get enough.
	Enjoy your nights, Sir Marshall of Henderson.
	A Mr.
	Sharpton montage and some karma here.
	I want to do it the same way.
	But resist, we must.
	We must and we will much about that be committed.
	Okay.
	Jeffrey Kleppinger in Seattle, Washington.
	He says, he gave 3-3-3-3-3, and all he has to say is, go podcasting!
	Amen.
	Amen.
	Fish bump.
	We'll give him a karma while we're at it.
	Of course.
	You've got karma.
	Uh, Sir Rob Alter in Kansas City, Missouri, three, three, three.
	Thank you for an outstanding 2016.
	No agenda gets better and better with every year.
	Here's to many more.
	Cheers!
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	I think maybe a karma would work.
	Yes, karma is good.
	You've got karma.
	It's funny.
	Okay.
	Sir Alex Vonderhengst in Springfield, Tennessee.
	Send a check-in for 321.
	By the way, I want to mention to everybody that went to the No Agenda meetup, your donations are going to be read on the Sunday show.
	Okay.
	I do have them, by the way.
	They came in.
	I have the donations from the meetup if you want to do them today.
	No.
	Okay.
	We're doing them on Sunday.
	That's what I thought.
	Okay.
	And the reason is because this is two shows.
	These thank yous are from two shows.
	So there's a lot of checks and other stuff.
	It kind of made a bookkeeping nightmare.
	So I didn't want to do anything with the donations.
	Send less money.
	No.
	No, we don't want to load up one show so much because we're going to get like no donations for the Sunday show.
	I know.
	We'll have plenty to complain about it.
	You don't have to tell them to send less money.
	They're not going to send any money.
	Onward.
	I'm losing my voice already.
	What are you doing with the donations?
	How did you get the donations?
	Eric sent them to me.
	And Mr.
	DH Slammer sent them to me.
	I have three copies.
	DH Slammer 1 is the one that's floating around.
	Alright, we'll do that on Sunday.
	Good.
	Onward!
	Sir Hawnonymous.
	We have Sir...
	No, what about Alex Vanderhengst?
	You just did him!
	No, it says JCD has note.
	I have a note to read.
	I thought you were reading it.
	I'm sorry.
	3-21-17.
	No, I was saying that we're not going to do the meetup awards today.
	Ah, okay.
	I gotcha.
	I'm sorry.
	John and Adam, last year a fellow producer started a countdown donation.
	I... Use the idea and resolve to make a yearly countdown donation, as long as I am able.
	I'm hoping you will have a Merry Christmas and a Blessed New Year.
	Thank you.
	And I don't know what the countdown donation means, but he's at 3-2-1-1-7.
	So, we'll see what happens next year.
	Yeah, 3-2-1-1-8.
	Or the, no, it's a countdown, it'd be 1-6.
	3-2-1...
	I think he started with zero.
	Oh, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	We'll find out.
	Sir Hanonymous, Knight of the Haw River Basin, 289.
	Working on a...
	Okay, whoops.
	Give yourselves two karmas for, one, working on Christmas, and two, Plato says, Outdoors girl who loves N.A. thinks great analysis equals good intent.
	Okie dokie.
	I will definitely give us a Karma.
	Thank you very much, Sir Harnonymous.
	You've got Karma.
	Knight of the Hall River.
	Okay, onward.
	Now we have Age Anonymous.
	Age Anonymous.
	266-64.
	Call me Black Knight Anonymous.
	No, call me Black Knight Age Anonymous.
	Knight of the O. Okay.
	You guys must think I'm a pisshead drunkard in Aussie land.
	Well, you might be right.
	So I guess this is a drunk donation.
	I'll try to read it a little bit.
	But you have to do an Australian drunk donation, right?
	I can't.
	My Australian sucks so bad that I'm not going to do it as an Australian.
	Anyway, what else to do in AU? Our government is crap.
	No matter which side you vote for, we are a...
	We are something.
	Screwed.
	We are screwed.
	I love the show.
	I've been listening for years.
	I'm a knight now.
	Black, please, please.
	Why does anyone want to be a black knight?
	I don't.
	It's just the sound of it.
	I donated for 888.
	I had accounting in the other email.
	I congratulate you on 888 shows and wish you 888-888 more.
	My donation was for show 888.
	I donated 888-888 times 3.
	I want a whoopee get out of my vag whoopee fart.
	What?
	I don't know what the Whoopi fart is.
	Thanks something.
	Thanks Obama.
	Call me Sir Black Knight Edge Anonymous.
	Knight of the O. Karma for everyone.
	Get out of my vagina!
	Thanks Obama.
	You've got karma.
	That was actually Whoopi's fart.
	That's pretty good.
	I have that handy.
	I like the part followed by thanks, Obama.
	Oh, let's try those two again together.
	Let's see how that works.
	Thanks, Obama.
	Childish, yet always funny.
	Yeah, and I like the ah part.
	Very good combo.
	Matt Mills, $256 somewhere in Texas.
	Adam and John, thank you for all the light you bring to my life.
	I would like to show some love by making one large lump donation.
	Lump.
	Please leave a litany of your present presence online on Earth and all over the universe.
	Lots of luck and I hope to learn as much as possible while loyally listening to Long into the future.
	This is the most money I have put forward to anything online, and I was going to purchase a firearm.
	But first I decided to send some Christmas cheer instead with a quarter of my savings.
	Damn.
	Yeah.
	To follow the dollar and value for value model.
	And then he says, F Snopes.
	Ha ha ha.
	Go team, no agenda.
	Sincerely signed Matt from the Bell County.
	Sorry for the sloppy writing.
	And this is supposed to be for show 888, but got bumped up.
	And I'm going to give him some karma.
	And if you're ever in Austin and you need to borrow a firearm, I'll hook you up.
	You've got karma.
	No problem.
	Excuse me, Mr.
	Robber.
	I have to go borrow a firearm.
	Yeah.
	Mark Lapicola in Madison Heights, Michigan, who I believe is a knight.
	It doesn't say.
	It says a wandering surf.
	It says a note.
	John and Adam, today's donation is a sack of eights and a pair of boobs.
	Because who doesn't like boobs?
	Calculation, 80.88 plus 80.08 plus 80.08 is 249.04.
	Got it.
	I'm glad he straightened that out for us.
	Yeah, thanks.
	With all the cannabis talk of late, I thought I'd share my experience.
	I was privileged to sit on a jury in December.
	As it happened, it was a case of operating a vehicle with THC in the system.
	It turns out, while legal to possess and use marijuana in many Michigan cities, it's illegal to have any amount of THC in your blood.
	Yes, any amount.
	While this individual had open booze bottles, a big no-no in most states, he was not drunk, nor was he high.
	He was pulled over for failing to move over for emergency equipment on the side of the road.
	Wrong move.
	However, the arresting officer did smell marijuana.
	There were three baggies in the car.
	Huh?
	What?
	I'm laughing because Danny the drug dealer moved to California to learn how to grow.
	Yeah.
	But, you know, that's my dealer.
	I'm like, hey, I need something.
	So he sends me this stuff through U.S. Postal Service.
	And I walk into the mailroom here.
	I'm like, hmm, I think Danny sent his...
	You can smell it?
	Oh, hell yeah.
	And he puts talcum powder in there and all kinds of stuff.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's picked right off the vine there in California.
	It's beautiful.
	Bring out the dogs.
	Anyway, however, the arresting officer did smell marijuana.
	The subject was legal to possess but refused a breath test.
	There's no breath test for marijuana.
	Hey, breathe in my face.
	And then he says, so blood was drawn under a warrant.
	This was his downfall because they found THC even though he wasn't drunk.
	Or, I guess, buzzed.
	Right.
	I'm hoping for a Catch-22 marijuana law is not being used all over the country because even I, as a non-user, recognize this is BS. Start jingle here.
	Yes.
	Bullshit!
	Time code.
	This is a long-overdue donation to my knighthood.
	Please, please, please play the Korean news lady...
	Ready?
	The ninja master, the guy who could call a million ninja for Putin, don't think you have an ISO for this one if I couldn't find it.
	Wait, what was that again?
	Say that again.
	Maybe I have it.
	He says it's the ninja master.
	It's the guy who called a million ninja for Putin.
	I don't remember this.
	He says he doesn't think we have an ISO for it.
	We're all gonna die and the fiscal cliff scream.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	You want the order again?
	Yeah.
	Korean news lady.
	Yeah.
	We're all going to die in the fiscal cliff scream.
	But what was that second one that you said we wouldn't have?
	The ninja master.
	The guy who could call a million ninja for Putin.
	Let's just see.
	Ninja.
	Maybe this is it.
	Let me see.
	No, that can't be it.
	Yeah, I don't think we have that one.
	That may be a little difficult to find.
	So I can do this for you.
	You've got karma.
	Music Most of it.
	Yeah, that's good.
	Let's see what we got.
	We got Michelle Topinski.
	Where's Michelle Trapinski?
	Yeah, there she is.
	Okay, Michelle Trapinski in Alberta.
	23456, curiously, followed by another one with 23456, curiously, both as checks.
	ITM, John and Adam, a first-time donor.
	I was a first-time donor.
	I was hit in the mouth by my incredible boyfriend, John Billings, in May.
	I was immediately hooked on the first podcast and haven't missed one since.
	I'm noticing this more and more.
	More people than, I'd say, four years ago will listen to one podcast and be hooked immediately.
	In the olden days, we always had to tell people to listen to at least three.
	What changed?
	I don't think it's the podcast that changed that much.
	Instead of calling John out as a douchebag, her boyfriend, as he has been a listener for over two years, apparently never sending any money, I would like to send this donation as a Christmas present towards his knighthood.
	Although we live across Canada from each other, I'm hoping this arrives just in time for when we'll be listening to the podcast together.
	Oh well.
	By the way, Adam, is there a reason you call us Scandinavia?
	And John, I wouldn't say Canadians think they are better than Americans.
	From what I have seen, we mostly don't feel the need to argue over it.
	Because you're superior.
	We are pretty easygoing.
	I would like to...
	This is like the Los Angeles-San Francisco debate in every certain year.
	I can tell you exactly why I do that.
	Microaggression.
	Exactly.
	Yes.
	I would like to thank both...
	I think someone said it somewhere.
	I think someone said it and we liked it.
	Yeah, of course we liked it.
	And there's Canadia is the other one.
	That's another good one, yeah, Canadia.
	Canadia and Scandinavia, they're both winners.
	It's close to people saying, what do you speak in Dutchland?
	Right, exactly.
	Holland-ish?
	And it's definitely microaggressions.
	Yes, a total microaggression.
	Admitted.
	I would like you to both, I'd like to thank you both immensely for opening my eyes to a whole other world.
	I used to believe in climate change because I watched one documentary on it.
	Before listening to No Agenda podcast, we have another weather report today.
	I used to believe in climate change.
	Before listening to the podcast, I had very little world knowledge or ability to think critically.
	No agenda shows.
	My only media diet now is I don't watch any TV or movies.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	I don't know what I would do without the best podcasts in the universe.
	I love your interactions with each other.
	Banter and literally laugh out loud commentary.
	I love the humor you both bring as opposed to the fear mongering that is so prevalent.
	Thank you for changing my worldview and showing me what a slave I was.
	I'd like to request the following.
	Obama?
	No, no, no, no.
	Let's hold hands and share a secret.
	And we...
	Okay.
	Looking forward to my twice-weekly dose of sanity.
	Much love, Michelle.
	Okay.
	Ta-da.
	And...
	What is it?
	Tell a secret.
	Oh, man, I'm slow today.
	Tell a secret.
	What was the other one?
	Ah, yes, the we.
	The we is so popular.
	Okay, we can do this.
	Hey, listen.
	Hey, you're in my house.
	Hey, shame on you.
	You shouldn't be doing this.
	Oh, there's no winning.
	We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot.
	Now everyone hug and share a secret.
	You've got karma.
	All right, well, there's no, no, no, no in there, but that's fine.
	Oh, I thought, that's, I'm sorry, I thought it was a no, no, no.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	That's okay, it was a good, it was a good combo.
	She can bitch if she takes it.
	Oh, I'll put one at the end.
	End of show notes.
	Ah, we're going to end of show notes.
	Sorry.
	Do a song, one of those great songs.
	Yes, I shall.
	Kate McKiernan in Roanoke, Virginia, 23456.
	And she writes, Dear John and Adam, it's been about a year since our family's last donation.
	I like the end of the year when people will catch up.
	I was listening to show 887 when the report on Italy referenced fake news.
	Sounding exactly like the mainstream media in the United States and referencing the same stories.
	Worldwide phenomenon.
	New world order.
	Blame Russia.
	It was then that I realized we needed to support the show that brings us real news.
	No agenda.
	This year has included many outstanding deconstructions of our favorites being the U.S. election and the Brexit coverage.
	We want to keep our unparalleled podcast alive and closed.
	Please find 23456 for the cause.
	If you can, please play It's Trump, the President, followed by Little Girl Yay.
	Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, Katie McKiernan, and husband, Tim, daughters, Morgan, Maggie, and son, Elon.
	Yes, and we should also give her a little bit of karma, I think.
	Who ends?
	He's Trump!
	He's Trump!
	The president!
	Yay!
	You've got karma.
	Damn, I'm good.
	You are.
	It's ridiculous.
	That's crazy.
	I'm not getting paid enough.
	Stuart Morrison in South Yarra, Victoria, Australia, 230.
	And he sends us a note.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	That's exactly what he sounds like.
	Sir, Stuart Morrison of South Yarra here, a board to donate in light of the foiled terrorist attack in Melbourne.
	I got it.
	It appears Australia has received the Holy Hello Citizen starter pack.
	The media is covering with as much hyperbole gusto as ever and I shall send you some resources.
	Hoping to be in the USA next July and to sit at a medical exam.
	Looking forward to meeting some more producers then.
	Merry Christmas.
	Okay, I think that's it.
	Okay.
	Now I have to use the scroll thingy.
	What is wrong with your spreadsheet?
	What's going on, man?
	You're having issues.
	Would you like me to do them?
	James O'Brien.
	Now I'm going to do them.
	222.
	No, you get this thing.
	The spreadsheet's big.
	Thank you for your commitment to excellence.
	Here's a quarter.
	One-fourth towards your 888.
	Thank you.
	So you got 222.
	Oh, Dame Monica Lansing in Drayton Valley in Alberta, 2088.
	And she says...
	Stephen and John...
	Well, here's the problem.
	I'll tell you what the problem is.
	Oh, thank you.
	Happy New Year, she says.
	John and Adam, I'd like to request relationship karma for Stephen and job karma for Ken.
	Keep up the great work.
	Baroness Monica...
	You've got karma.
	Uh, now on word to...
	Oh, I see what it is.
	Okay.
	Stephen Johnson, Carmel, Indiana.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Sir Trevor Mudge.
	Oh, Sir Trevor Mudge!
	He has something to say, too.
	Click this thing.
	Merry Christmas?
	I'm not sure I'm allowed to say that anymore.
	No, no, we work fine with it.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, season's greetings, and he's got no requests, it seems like.
	No.
	Stephen Johnson.
	Carmel, Indiana.
	Please accept my sincere thanks.
	I've canceled my Economist subscription, along with my local communist Indianapolis Starge subscription.
	I now divert those funds to no agenda.
	I love the skepticism, even though I'm not always agree with you guys.
	Of course not.
	No.
	And no request for karma, please.
	You've got karma.
	That is the group for show 890.
	I want to thank them all for producing this show, actually, literally.
	Literally.
	And remind everyone that we do another show coming up on Sunday, short week.
	There'll probably be very few donations because this list that we just read is for the last two shows in reality.
	Exactly.
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	I wanted to talk for a moment about a couple...
	theme that we've discussed before, but I had the pleasure of having my daughter here for the past week, and I was able to ask her about it.
	As you know, she is a full-fledged member of the LGBT community and knows a lot about it and is very, he speaks with me about this with great ease.
	So, we know that the attacks that are taking place against the incoming administration are based mainly on race, not draining the swamp, filling up the swamp, hating women, and I think killing gays.
	I think it's close to killing gays.
	And, I mean, CBS, I don't know who you were monitoring over the holiday, CBS really took this to the extreme, I think, you know, insinuating all kinds of McCarthy-type ideas.
	The memo shared with CBS News requested details on existing programs and activities to promote gender equality, such as ending gender-based violence, as well as a list of jobs that handle those issues.
	It did not state why the information was needed.
	Hold on a second.
	So wife-beating has become gender-based violence?
	I guess so.
	Good catch, by the way.
	I didn't catch that myself.
	Interesting.
	Another rephrasing of the language.
	Oh, yeah.
	And this, of course, is about a memo that the Trump administration asked for federal programs.
	And, you know, this goes along with everyone trying to copy their climate change research because they're afraid the Trump Nazis are going to come in.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know, we didn't play that story out, but I did have some clips from a couple of shows ago.
	That was the most ridiculous thing.
	Oh my god!
	The Gestapo are going to come in and grab our records and burn them.
	A big public burning.
	Like a book burning.
	Exactly.
	We've got to protect the climate change records.
	So they said, hey, what are the programs?
	What federal programs do we have?
	LGBT. I'm sure they asked for all the programs, including energy and transportation.
	But this has been micro...
	Whoa!
	This has been micro-analyzed down to this.
	It did not state why the information was needed, but raised concern that the Trump administration might want to cancel State Department initiatives championed by former Secretary Hillary Clinton.
	The memo did not ask for the names of officials who work on these programs.
	Unlike a controversial questionnaire sent by the Trump team to the Energy Department earlier this month, it requested a list of programs and staffers essential to meeting the goals of President Obama's Climate Action Plan.
	The questionnaire prompted House Foreign Affairs Committee Democrats to urge Secretary Kerry in a letter last week not to single out his employees.
	In our view, gathering names in this manner bears striking resemblance to dark chapters in our history marked by enemies lists and political witch hunts.
	Wait a minute.
	So I'm asking for some memos?
	And now all of a sudden I'm McCarthy?
	The memos are public documents.
	Yeah, no, this is...
	What did I miss about that?
	I miss this story.
	Whatever the story was that you played, I don't have a clue what it meant.
	What it...
	Okay.
	The idea is, the Trump administration is asking for documents on all kinds of programs, and as it pertains to LGBTQ, it is now, the story is, oh yeah, they're looking, they're looking, they're looking, they're getting rid of people.
	They're taking names.
	Yeah.
	So another attack, which I think is...
	Wait, I don't believe this story.
	Oh, well, it's true.
	I mean, it's...
	No, here's what I don't believe about it.
	What?
	It makes it sound as though they did one thing and one thing only.
	Of all the things they've done over the past three or four weeks, they've only done one thing, and that is ask for documents about gay programs.
	Well, no, she says very specifically...
	There's my voices going again.
	She says very specifically, she says, they also did that for energy and for transportation.
	Well, then what are we talking about here?
	Propaganda.
	Propaganda making it scary.
	Making it scary.
	Fake news.
	Fake news, exactly.
	Now, I'm not sure if this is fake or if this is timed.
	I believe it's timed news.
	I think this took place half a year ago.
	I didn't really have time to do the type of investigating I'd like to.
	But the story comes out now.
	It is a national story, although I caught it on a local NBC station, but it's an NBC package.
	And we have to recognize, before we play this, that the current president of the Boy Scouts of America is also the incoming Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.
	Tillerson?
	Yeah, something like that.
	Tillerson.
	I think I call him Tillerman a lot.
	I don't like that.
	I think it's Tillerson.
	Yeah.
	So, if we're gonna make...
	You need a nickname for him.
	That's the problem.
	Yeah, we'll come up with it.
	Big Rex.
	Big Rex.
	So let's cause some trouble for these people.
	The Boy Scouts of America faces new questions after banning a child over his gender identity.
	Eight-year-old Joe Maldonado, who was born a girl and now identifies as a boy, was removed from his New Jersey Cub Scout troop.
	Joe's family says parents of other children had complained.
	Errol Barnett spoke with Joe and his mother.
	Errol, good morning.
	Good morning.
	Joe Maldonado's mother says the organization already knew her son was transgender when she signed him up for the Cub Scouts.
	But now the Boy Scouts of America, which is no stranger to controversy when it comes to membership rights, is telling them he's not welcome.
	Joe Maldonado is just like any other eight-year-old.
	Hold on a second.
	Are you telling me this is the Cub Scouts?
	We have some prepubescent kid.
	Yep.
	Who's decided he's a girl.
	Yes.
	And so he's decided he's a girl.
	No, no, no.
	He's a girl who's decided he's a tomboy in the olden days.
	That's what we'd call a person like this.
	Correct.
	So we have a tomboy, prepubescent, really doesn't get to the point where they're even old enough to think clearly, has made these decisions that the parents are all in on.
	This is the conversation we're going to get into in a moment.
	Okay, I'm just going to drop it.
	I just want to set the stage.
	The stage is set correctly, sir.
	Thank you.
	Welcome.
	Joe Maldonado is just like any other eight-year-old.
	I got two points.
	Eight!
	But Joe was born a girl.
	So as a parent, how do you know that you don't just have a girl who is a tomboy and that rather it's a transgender...
	Your question exactly!
	I drew you right into it.
	I love it.
	Who is a tomboy and that rather it's a transgender issue.
	For a couple years, I didn't realize it.
	He was born Jody.
	That's enough answer for me.
	I didn't even realize it.
	He was born Jody, but has been identifying as a boy for over a year.
	Why did you want to join the Boy Scouts?
	Because all my favorite friends were there.
	Joe was a member of Cub Scout Pack 87 in New Jersey, but was recently removed over his legal gender, which is female.
	What do you think of that reasoning?
	I don't know.
	Poor kid.
	Poor kid.
	What do you think of that reasoning?
	Reasoning.
	I don't know.
	Child abuse right there, man.
	They knew full well he was not born a boy.
	They all know.
	In a statement, the Boy Scouts of America defended its actions, saying in part, no youth may be removed from any of our programs on the basis of his or her sexual orientation.
	But added, gender identity isn't related to sexual orientation.
	In recent years, the Boy Scouts have reversed bans on gay scouts and scout leaders.
	But this incident could spark a new debate.
	Now, the Boy Scouts of America says its programs are for those who identified as boys on their birth certificates.
	The organization tells us it offered the family alternative co-ed programs for Joe, but his mother told me she is not interested and instead wants an apology for Joe.
	Now we're back in studio.
	Listen to a little banter amongst the hosts about this story.
	Being a child at that age is always tough.
	I mean, for a kid, he just wants to belong.
	You really see public opinion.
	I know in your piece you said it's already coming.
	That will seemingly carry the day here.
	Yeah, and the mother says she just wants to do what makes her child happy.
	This isn't about anything other than that.
	Hear, hear.
	Oh, yes.
	Oh, yes.
	Who are these guys?
	Where did you get this from?
	I believe it's NBC. Yeah.
	MSNBC. Yeah, no, it's the local.
	That was the package.
	They come back to the local, yeah.
	I love the little, oh yes.
	Here, here.
	Here, here.
	Now, this flows into the following three-part clips series.
	Why do you do that?
	I thought we were going to discuss this.
	That's where we want to discuss this.
	No, you're not going to.
	Follow my lead.
	Okay.
	I came across on the face bags a new interview from someone we've played before.
	Her name is Camille Paglia.
	Oh, yes.
	Camille Paglia, I'll mention.
	Yes.
	He's one of my favorite writers.
	Mm-hmm.
	She's a lesbian, out lesbian who is very anti-feminist.
	And she's such a good writer that she can destroy anybody.
	I always was admiring, just a little side, I always admired her writing as, because she's an essayist, which I am, and I always admired how she pieced her stuff together.
	I said, I just wish I could write this well.
	I lost respect for her after I discovered that these essays she writes takes her one, two months to write, and Yes, anyone can probably put together a dynamite essay if you spend that much time.
	I liked my window of, like, when you should get something to get, 45 minutes, boom, you should be done.
	But so that's a little side there.
	Well, I'm glad you like her.
	I like her.
	She's great.
	She has a new book out, apparently, which is the reason why she's out promoting it.
	So she had this, she was asked kind of like one question about transgenderism and what that means and how she views that.
	Now, Luckily, Christina, as I said, full-fledged representing member of the LGBT community, has dated transgenders, I think, both ways.
	Male to female, female to male.
	Likes men, likes women, whatever.
	Likes animals.
	It's great.
	And I said, I want you to listen to this.
	She's making three points, and I've broken it up into those three points.
	And I'd like you to tell me what you feel about it.
	So, I'm going to play these three points.
	We can talk about it, and I'll bring in her opinion.
	Are you going to do that with your little recorder device or tremolo?
	What's it called?
	I'm going to let it go.
	What's it called?
	This is a recorder.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	So we'll start off with her discussing transgenderism.
	And she likens it really to, well, a couple of things, including issues with culture.
	I'm very concerned with this.
	I think that it's become a fashion concept.
	That the transgender definition has become a kind of convenient label for young people who may simply feel alienated culturally for many other reasons.
	So that in the 1950s they might have become a beatnik.
	In the 1960s, they might have become a hippie and taken mind-expanding drugs.
	And so today, you're encouraged to think that your alienation is because you are not totally identifying with your particular inherited gender definition.
	So she's pretty much saying it's fashion.
	It's fashionable now.
	That's an interesting definition, and I'm glad I was born when I was born.
	If that's the case, go on.
	Christina completely agrees.
	She said, yeah, we're very confused.
	She says, and this is just so easy to say, I don't fit in.
	She says, particularly under the age of 18, she says, you know, kids really, really, really, there's too much facilitation.
	We'll get to that in a moment.
	But definitely, she said, it's totally fashion.
	It's something that people reach to very quickly and it's being encouraged.
	Now my favorite part of her thesis, which Christine also had some interesting things to say about.
	So I'm very concerned about this.
	I think that a lot of it, I think that the collaboration of the bureaucratic machinery with it has to do with the assault on masculinity, okay?
	Ah, okay.
	You see, gender doesn't really exist.
	It's not really polarity.
	I mean, everything's all about expanding women's rights, but also terminating men, okay, and defining men out of existence.
	Masculinity is, by definition, toxic.
	Masculinity doesn't exist.
	You see, this is the proof of that.
	Now, I began, all of my studies, my book, Sexual Personae, began, There's a dissertation at Yale, graduate school, on androgyny.
	I've always been fascinated, attracted to the subject of androgyny, and that's what sexual persona is.
	I explored it in history.
	But the more I explored it, I realized that historically, the movement toward androgyny occurs in late phases of culture.
	As a civilization is starting to unravel, you can find it again and again and again through history in the Greek art.
	You can see it happening.
	All of a sudden, there's a kind of, you know, the sculptures of handsome, nude young men athletes that used to be very robust in the archaic period suddenly began to seem like wet noodles toward the end.
	Okay.
	And that the people who live in such periods, a late phase of culture...
	Whether it's the Hellenistic era, whether it's the Roman Empire, whether it's the mauve decade of Oscar Wilde in the 1890s, whether it's in Weimar Germany, people who live in such times feel that they're very sophisticated, they're very cosmopolitan.
	Homosexuality, heterosexuality, so what?
	Anything goes and so on.
	But from the perspective of historical distance, you can see that it's a culture that no longer believes in itself.
	And then what you invariably get...
	People who are convinced of the power of heroic masculinity, on the edges, whether they're the Vandals and the Huns, or whether they're the barbarians of ISIS, you see them starting to mass on the outsides of the culture, and that's what we have right now.
	There is a tremendous and rather terrifying disconnect between Between the infatuation with the transgender movement in our own culture and what's going on out there.
	I mean, that's why I'm concerned.
	I feel it's ominous.
	Now, a couple things.
	One, when I hear her talk, it's no wonder she takes two months to put something together.
	I don't know if she's an Adderall or whatever.
	She's tripping.
	She wasn't that bad before.
	She's just gotten worse.
	She's old.
	So I think that she's made very, very good points here.
	And I think that we discussed her previously in the context of cultural collapse.
	One of the signs is this type of, eh, everything's okay.
	Everyone can screw anybody.
	Homosexuality, heterosexuality, transgenderity, whatever it is, it's all good.
	But the war on men totally fits in here.
	And Christina was like, oh yeah, oh totally.
	The whole idea, she said, is we don't want men anymore.
	That's not her, personally speaking, but she says that is without a doubt the idea, and she's removing men from the equation where men become women, and women become men, but they become men, but rarely do they go for any type of sex reassignment surgery.
	It's also very complicated and difficult.
	And she says, ultimately, we're all just going to be a bunch of bikers with vaginas, was literally her quote.
	And she doesn't necessarily like it, but she says, you know, she actually referenced some study.
	There are a number of animals that can procreate without a male.
	And there's a, I read this study, there's a type of gnat or flea, I think it is flea.
	And it can procreate with a male or without.
	The only thing is currently the offspring that is procreated without a male have about 50% chance of living.
	They're just weaker.
	So, you know, maybe we're lucky for a little while.
	Once they figure out they don't need us anymore.
	They'll want us just for the strongness of the children we reproduce.
	But she said, without a doubt, without a doubt, that is happening.
	Removing masculinity from everything in culture.
	And she said, it went so fast, daddy.
	I said, so when did you really, when did you really feel open about talking about this stuff?
	And other people said, two years ago, it just boom, all of a sudden it just took off like crazy.
	And she says, and it's social media, it's the regular media.
	And she says, coming next, toys.
	She says, the toys are going to be filled with transgender crap.
	Well, you can't get a cowboy, an Indian, set up anymore.
	You can't buy cap guns.
	But all of it is a true war.
	And she says it's going really, really fast.
	And part of that, and that's the third and final part of this three-part series, is because of the machine that is set up for this.
	So take into account, this culture is moving this way, there's a war on men, children are confused, oh, don't do mind expanding drugs, you're just confused, you're not right in your body, we can take care of you.
	I question whether the transgender choice is indeed genuine in every single case.
	But again, what concerns me is when well-meaning adults believe that they're helping people by making it easier, some permanent change in the body from which there is no going back.
	For example, Brown University, one of the Ivy League schools in the United States, put sex reassignment surgery on its student insurance program so that they can get a sex change in college.
	I thought, oh my lord, I feel that's evil because to young people today facing an uncertain job market, What it says, people who are questioning their gender while they're at Brown University suddenly feel, well, it's like economically a better judgment for me to move now on this rather than to wait until I don't have a job and live in my parents' basement.
	So actually, the adult community trying to be understanding is, I think, involved in possibly making a permanent change in someone's life that could have tragic consequences.
	And there, I think, another good point is made.
	This is something Christina said quite clearly.
	She said, no one under 18 should be able to do this.
	She said, she's worked with many confused kids.
	And she said, it's really dangerous.
	She believes a lot of kids are getting reassignment surgery and they may regret it later on.
	And it's because of this big machine.
	That's exactly what we heard with this kid.
	It's like, you know, now there was no necessary talk of gender reassignment.
	But still, the machine is...
	This is all part of...
	There's no losers.
	There's no winners.
	Hold your hand.
	Tell a secret.
	Everyone's okay.
	You'll be fine.
	But the machine is big.
	It's free.
	In the Netherlands, if you're transgendered, And you're under 21, you can get free hormones, free reassignment surgery, and money to stay at home while you're getting your shit together.
	Time code.
	So, think of it.
	Oh, I'm confused.
	I mean, shoot, man, I was confused about the world when I was 18.
	Then all of a sudden, well, it's because this is what your problem is, and here's how you fix it.
	It's free.
	And you can be cool.
	I'm not completely subscribing to this.
	I'm just telling you what I'm hearing.
	As Camille's got this thing, you know, it's the end of society and all the rest.
	We haven't been around that long.
	I'm attributing this, and I'll bring out the clips.
	This is one of the promised clips.
	One of the promised clips.
	You always promise clips, and you never bring them.
	The promise clips on atrazine, which I think has been poisoning the American public for about that length of time.
	There's been a number of interesting trends that I've noticed because of the poisoning of the food supply.
	One of them was the use of growth hormone in steer meat that got into the meat.
	And we had a whole slew of people, and they're all about the same age.
	They're probably in their 30s now.
	And they all came at the same time, all these tall women.
	A bunch of women are all six foot and higher.
	And the whole thing with women's basketball came along thanks to these women.
	But that was because the food supply was poisoned with a growth hormone during the era when these kids were young and they were eating this meat, which has been banned since.
	The latest poisoning...
	Besides the lead poisoning that seems to be going around, and now it's being found in Oakland, is atrazine, which is a herbicide, insecticide, whatever, one of the two, that has been studied by a guy over at the University of California, a black guy who's a very good scientist, very well known, and Eclipse will discuss it.
	He found that this is the one that Alex Jones is talking about, frogs being turned into rats!
	The frogs, male frogs turn into female frogs because of this chemical.
	For 20 plus years, they've had glow-in-the-dark dogs you can buy that are part jellyfish.
	That one?
	No.
	The one that frogs are turning into girl frogs, boy frogs into girl frogs, something like that.
	It's one of them.
	That's a good one, though.
	And...
	So this stuff is still in the market because they have decided it makes too much money.
	This guy discovered that it also may have an effect on the human sexuality of humans.
	It's banned in Europe.
	And it has this effect of feminizing men, mostly.
	This was also said of plastic bottles?
	Yeah, plastic bottles I don't think has the impact of this stuff.
	This atrazine stuff is really powerful.
	Yeah, and you're just breathing.
	And it gets in the food supply really easily, even though it's not supposed to, but it does.
	Yeah.
	It gets in the food and water supply.
	And I think a lot of people are aware of some of these toxins that are in the water supply.
	That's why they use, you know, Brita and Zero Water.
	Yeah, I got a filter.
	Hell yeah.
	There's a reason those things are so popular.
	Out of the blue, they never used to be when I was a kid.
	Hmm.
	And so I think we've been poisoning the public.
	And I think eventually this will come out.
	This guy did all the studies, showed all the research.
	They shut him down.
	The guy was shut down.
	And then they decided to smear him.
	The clips will reveal all this.
	Now, which clip is this, John?
	It's the Atrazine clips.
	I actually sent them to you some time ago.
	I know, but I'm looking for Atrazine.
	I can't find anything under Atrazine.
	What crazy name could you have given the clip?
	That's the only thing I would have called it.
	A-T-R-A-Z-I-N-E, huh?
	Atrazine.
	I don't even have anything under zine.
	And I know we kept these clips.
	I know because you've talked about it.
	But it must be something else.
	Well, either that or it's not coming up properly for whatever reason.
	I'll run these clips on Sunday for sure because now that this became a topic.
	I'm going to write it down.
	And I will discuss it some more.
	But I do have some thoughts on this.
	I mean, I like the Camille Paglia concept that there were end of times, but I'm not a big end of times believer, which is why I don't like the basic thesis or that it's just end of times because and your daughter, I think, hit it right.
	In fact, the Greek and Roman era, where this hermaphrodism was a big deal, this was not something that happened over two years.
	She's noticing it really quick, and that's typical of poisoning, of food poisoning, of being poisoned.
	As you take lead-tainted water, it takes about, you know, a couple of years, you're talking like, you're an idiot.
	Yeah.
	So I'm not buying that part of it at all.
	I think we're being poisoned by our big pharma, big chemical.
	The EPA has done nothing, as you can tell by what happened in Flint, Michigan, about the lead.
	Where's the EPA? The EPA does nothing about fracking water.
	The EPA is, you know, they do a bunch of stuff to keep people from starting companies, and they're against coal.
	Well, based on what we expect the Trump administration to do, we're all going to be transgendered pretty soon, because the EPA will be gone.
	Well, I don't think the EPA being there or being gone is...
	I think the local government should do more, and the EPA was superseding them, which I think was the real problem, because all local...
	All states have an Air Resources Board, and they do what they do, and I think they're much better at it than the EPA. I was lucky enough to work with both the EPA and the Air Resources Board of California, and I could tell you...
	And in terms of intelligence, the local is the most intelligent, the state is less intelligent, and the EPA is stupid.
	Yeah, boom.
	But now back to this, there's a couple of things that are, I think, genuinely of interest.
	The tomboy girl, I think, is a case in point.
	We used to have boys clubs, boys clubs of America, and it got to the point where there's too many little girls.
	That's for kids.
	Little girls didn't get to, you know, they had their own girls club, but they call it the boys and girls club now.
	They have the joint, their joint operations.
	I don't see, and there's no equivalent to the Cub Scouts and the Girl Scouts, I don't think, unless the Girl Scouts just go younger.
	It's the Brownies, the Brownies.
	Oh, the Brownies, right, right, the Brownies.
	There are Brownies.
	I just think they should combine the brownies, because this is not a sexual issue they have to worry about.
	I think it would be much more fun to be a Cub Scout and do work with the brownies.
	The brownies and the Cub Scouts, they can socialize, they can do other things.
	And the brownies could prepare the Cub Scouts for the ultimate demise of masculinity.
	I think that would not be an issue, and I think that's the way to solve this problem.
	And the girl can be a brownie or be a Cub Scout.
	Who cares?
	That issue, I think the Boy Scouts at some point are going to have to combine the brownies and the Cub Scouts, even though the overriding organizations, Girl Scouts of America and Boy Scouts of America, I do not think interconnect.
	I don't know.
	I don't know either.
	But...
	I thought it was an interesting commentary.
	I think we're being poisoned by our own people.
	Or maybe Russia's behind it.
	I've got information, man.
	New shit has come to light.
	Yeah, well, speaking of...
	Putin!
	This just came in.
	Finally, we have the word.
	U.S. punishes Russia for election hacking from the New York Times.
	Here's what we're going to do.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	So you're telling me that they've got the evidence now?
	Well, it gets better than that.
	Washington.
	The Obama administration struck back at Russia on Thursday for its efforts to influence the 2016 election, ejecting 35 Russian intelligence operatives from the United States and imposing sanctions on Russia's two leading intelligence services.
	Including four top officers in the Military Intelligence Unit the White House believes ordered the attacks on the Democratic National Committee and other political organizations.
	In a sweeping set of announcements.
	Sweeping.
	The United States was also expected to release evidence linking the cyber attacks to computer systems used by Russian intelligence.
	Taken together, the actions would amount to the strongest American response ever taken to a state-sponsored cyber attack aimed at the United States.
	I don't think we've ever done anything.
	But, here we go.
	The Obama administration also planned to release a detailed, quote, joint analytic report from the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Department of Homeland Security that is clearly based in part on the intelligence gathered by the National Security Agency.
	A more detailed report on the intelligence ordered by President Obama will be published in the next three weeks, though much of the detail, especially evidence, collected from implants in Russian computer systems, tap conversations and spies...
	Is expected to remain classified.
	That's right.
	So they're not going to tell us anything.
	No.
	What's classified about it?
	A joint analytic report.
	It's a lie.
	A joint analytic report.
	How about findings?
	Conclusion?
	Executive summary?
	Yeah, okay.
	Well, that kind of proves the point.
	Bullcrap.
	I see.
	I want to play.
	I have two clips, but I want to play your riots in the mall because I didn't catch my attention.
	Riots in the mall.
	This is an interesting situation and And they say there's no connections, and this is the NBC report.
	I also, but I didn't...
	I have a CNN version, which I think will be interesting.
	Okay, well, let's play the NBC, then let's play the CNN, then I'll voice what I... Because the RT report was a little long-winded.
	I don't think I have it, but they do have a piece of information I want to throw in.
	And now to that breaking news here in New York.
	A security scare at Trump Tower late today, forcing an evacuation.
	A suspicious bag triggered the panic, but a senior police official says it later turned out to be filled with toys.
	President-elect Trump was not there at the time.
	He remains at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.
	And safety also a major concern in malls across the country after a series of massive brawls erupted the day after Christmas.
	Security has been stepped up at more than a dozen malls after violence sent shoppers running for the exits.
	As NBC's Gabe Gutierrez explains, some authorities believe social media is partly to blame.
	Again?
	And again, they seem to explode out of nowhere.
	It looked like people were throwing punches, fighting.
	It was just a huge mob of people.
	Brawls at malls across America, ranging from minor melees to mass evacuations.
	In Aurora, Illinois, eight teenagers have been charged.
	No one really knows what caused it.
	It was just two girls started first and then other people got involved too.
	Chaos at more than 15 shopping centers in a dozen states.
	At this New Jersey mall pandemonium, police and riot shields storming the food court.
	Witnesses say a person shouted gun after someone slammed the chair during a fight.
	This video from Connecticut shows an outnumbered officer trying to control the crowd.
	They just kind of started yelling and then started pushing each other.
	In Fort Worth, Texas, multiple fights with more than 100 teenagers.
	In Ohio, false reports of shots fired near Cleveland.
	No weapons found.
	At another mall in Chattanooga, Tennessee, police say two people set off fireworks, sparking a panic.
	I heard the pop, pop, pop.
	All of a sudden, just a tsunami of people running, jumping over tables and screaming.
	I have shoe marks on my jacket, actually, from people stepping on me.
	Shopper Jim Tanner says it was complete confusion in an age of mass shootings.
	Folks are just more attuned to every little incident that happens.
	Authorities don't believe the incidents are connected, though some blame social media for turning minor disturbances into major hysteria.
	Social media is going to be the death of this country.
	They cause more of a panic than is necessary.
	Tonight, the malls are back open with stepped-up security.
	Here in Chattanooga, police say the fireworks were set off to cover up a smash-and-grab robbery.
	Now the search is on for the thieves.
	Meanwhile, this mall is packed as the post-Christmas rush is in full swing.
	Now I have two CNN reports.
	The first one was similar to this, although very different in the discussion about social media.
	I think the second one, which is a lot shorter, still picks up what CNN is trying to communicate to us.
	Sarah, so are law enforcement officials worried about more of these kinds of incidents happening going forward?
	They certainly are.
	They hope that this is not a trend that is being started.
	But they still can't pinpoint whether or not there was one specific incident that created all of the rest.
	In other words, is there something in social media that they can find?
	But they are certainly scouring through it.
	We should mention this last bit here.
	You know, with all the things happening with soft targets, terrorism or mass shootings, Really, people are reacting in a very big way to some of these things.
	When they see people running and screaming, they automatically think it has something to do with either terrorism or that there's a shooter in place.
	And that's what caused some people to end up getting hurt in a stampede, Jim.
	The other one actually had a little bit more like, could it be coordinated?
	What is going on?
	Could it be coordinated?
	It might.
	It's very strange.
	Could it be coordinated?
	Is it coordinated?
	We don't know if it's coordinated.
	It's a three-minute clip, so I don't want to bore you with it.
	But that's basically what they're saying.
	Could it be coordinated?
	And I think they're going to come out with something, but I'd like to hear your analysis first.
	Well, I don't have much of an analysis except what RT had.
	They had the little bit of information that these guys don't want to reveal, I'm guessing.
	And it makes sense to me because I used to be in high school once.
	And when you're in high school, and once in a while, rumor goes around the entire school.
	Fight, fight, fight, fight.
	There's going to be a fight between this guy and that guy, and you know these two guys hate each other, and they're going to have a fight, so you gather around and fight.
	You'd watch the fight, and you'd see these guys, and you saw some dynamite fights.
	I mean, you don't mind seeing people getting all bloody.
	Yeah.
	According to RT, the Aurora event began with a Facebook posting about a fight at the mall that's going to take place at a specific time, and it apparently skyrocketed.
	It virally went all over the Aurora area, and the place was packed with kids wanting to watch the fight, and I guess these rival schools, the whole thing broke into a melee.
	People ideas of doing it.
	Oh, that's a good idea.
	Let's just, you know, because they would do that.
	What they didn't show, and I did a little bit of looking, they didn't really go after any hashtags, like hashtag mall.
	I liked the brawl at the mall.
	That was kind of cool.
	I snuck in that report you had.
	And...
	I'll tell you, to have this all starting at the same time sounds like one type of Facebook post, you just replace the name of the mall, replace the name of the school, and everyone started doing that.
	Yeah, that makes sense to me.
	And it makes total sense because you have, sadly to say, this generation which just has nothing better to do.
	And they need excitement in their lives.
	There is nothing.
	They don't have clubs to go to.
	They got nothing.
	These kids, this is like a movie that was called, if anyone can find this old 1970 movie called Over the Edge, I'd recommend you track it down and watch it.
	It's about a suburban area where you have a bunch of dipshit cops timecode.
	That are ruining it for all the kids and the town rebels.
	It's a very interesting movie.
	I think it pertains today.
	I wanted to back up the idea that this thing's going to get out of control by social media.
	I have a clip, which is not about the riots, but it's pretty much the same thing.
	Just listen to the information given to you in the social media one million clip.
	The party was only supposed to be for family and friends, but tens of thousands descended on a small town in Mexico Monday for a teenage girl's traditional 15th birthday celebration after the invitation video was accidentally posted publicly by her father.
	Well, it quickly went viral with more than a million people RSVPing, and clearly many of them showed up.
	Yeah, well, that's social media for you, of course.
	In Holland, it happens all the time with parties, and then, you know, a thousand people show up and trash the guy's house, his parents are gone.
	Yes, I know.
	That is, and does anybody, you know, you can't trust these kids anymore.
	No.
	Yeah, I know, the trashed house, there's something funny about it, but yeah, that can happen.
	There's something about the way CNN was positioning it, though.
	Now, if I were to say this is bad actors, and it's obviously very easy to do.
	It's not hard.
	I mean, this is a good campaign.
	If I were Soros, I'd be jealous.
	Like, oh man, that's a great idea.
	I could have done that.
	Make everyone afraid of the kids.
	Make them afraid of the mall.
	You can't destroy America quicker than making people afraid of the mall.
	That will bring us down.
	That will bring us to our knees in a week if we stop shopping.
	So I'm thinking the obvious strategy is to blame.
	Who did?
	Yes, Russians.
	The Russians.
	The Russians are riling up our children!
	I love the short version, too.
	You watch.
	Put it in the book.
	Okay, well, blame the Russians.
	Which brings us to a segue, since I think segment's about the mixer.
	The mixer?
	Oh, yes, the meet-up mixer.
	Hello, 1920s.
	John C. Devorak calling for the mixer.
	So it was a little place in Beverly Hills, right on one of the main streets, across from Bouchon.
	And we had a great group of people.
	I mean, there was just a lot of interesting people.
	All racists.
	They were all racists?
	They were all racists.
	They were all racists.
	It's racists.
	I mean, we had a black...
	How many people were there?
	I've estimated the actual headcount was 42.
	Oh, that's a nice meetup.
	There may have been 50.
	And you said there was a black listener?
	Did you say, there's my African-American?
	There's my one guy.
	No, I think there was maybe a couple, but the one guy was like this.
	Everybody had screwy jobs.
	Everybody.
	With a couple of exceptions.
	A couple of students, for example, they don't have screwy jobs.
	A couple of UCLA kids.
	And...
	But this guy had a job of being a on-the-road-all-the-time notary, working for a title company or escrow company.
	So he's listening to the show all the time because he's driving around getting people to sign stuff.
	We had Adam, the defense attorney.
	Famous defense attorney that handles a lot of cases.
	Really?
	We have a defense attorney in our group?
	Apparently one that's good.
	Oh, did you get his number?
	That would be my one phone call.
	That's what I asked the person.
	Give me your card just in case.
	He said, no, don't get arrested.
	Oh, okay.
	That's the easy way out.
	So he's got a murder case coming up.
	There's all the drug busts.
	You might be good at it.
	I don't know if he's...
	Can practice in...
	In Texas?
	In Texas when I'm arrested?
	Probably not.
	He actually took a group of guys, including the stewardess.
	We had a stewardess that was on Delta who says that she's always on the lookout for you because she knows you fly Delta all the time.
	Does she fly international?
	Yeah, I think.
	She seems to be like one of those...
	Girlfriend, we should coordinate!
	Bump me up in business.
	And Adam took the group of a couple of UCLA kids and the stewardess and they went over to Bouchon because he had this tip.
	He's a gourmet foodie.
	And he says on Mondays, for people in the Los Angeles basin, you might want to pay attention.
	On Mondays, Thomas Keller apparently is put into play at the Bouchon restaurant, which is the guy from French Laundry who has this chain of restaurants called Bouchon.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Apparently some fancy chicken.
	A fancy chicken.
	Like one of these crazy...
	Or one of these hard to get blue-legged chickens or whatever.
	Yeah, it's the Bluefoot.
	The Bluefoot.
	The Bluefoot or something.
	And he makes a fried chicken dish only for Mondays for people in the know.
	I don't even know if it's on the menu.
	That's a good tip.
	I thought so.
	I thought it was a good tip.
	I would have gone...
	Let's see what else there was.
	It was just a really outstanding crowd.
	We had a guy who has got contacts in Ukraine.
	He told me that we're the only ones he knows of that's on the right track in our analysis of the situation.
	Oh, that's nice to know.
	In fact, we didn't have too many people with anything to say, now you're off.
	We had MPs, we had armies, we had people in the military, one of the cop, local cop from Ventura County.
	It was just an outrageously good group of people.
	I can't remember everybody, but when we do the donation segments, a few of them get mentioned.
	I think a lot of them donated.
	And you had a whole, I saw photos.
	I love photos that people take with you because you always have the, your camera strung around your neck like a Japanese tourist.
	Yeah.
	It was a very good look for you.
	Uh-huh.
	And there was photos of a special drink menu.
	Yes.
	Now, the drink menu was put together by Buzzkill Jr.
	and the bartender, who apparently is one of those guys, the bartender of this place.
	You mean a mixologist.
	He's a mixologist.
	It's a place called Citizen, which was appropriate if you think about it.
	Yeah, of course.
	Hey, Citizen.
	And they worked on three drinks.
	One was the Blame Russia, which had no vodka in it but tequila, so you could blame Russia.
	Then there was the No Agenda drink, which JC eventually said was a little bit too strong.
	People are getting plastered on that.
	Good.
	And then the in the morning.
	So there were three drinks that were special for that occasion.
	How nice.
	And it was a good event.
	People stayed longer than I thought they would.
	And you had a good time.
	Yeah.
	We left about nine.
	How about Mimi?
	Did she hang out with people?
	She talked to people?
	Oh, no.
	Mimi was the expediter.
	She would be like, there's a couple guys.
	Oh, she was like your handler.
	No, not for me.
	Oh.
	She was like, she'd see two people standing around looking, you know, like, I don't know, do we have anything in common with these guys?
	There were two Hispanics that were there.
	She was like the greeter.
	She was like Telly Savalas.
	No, no, no.
	I'm going to explain it.
	It wasn't that either.
	She would see these, like, a couple guys saying, why aren't you mixing?
	Hey, hey, hey.
	I don't know if we got anything in common with these people.
	And he said, no, you all know agenda people have the same mindset.
	Yeah.
	And they, so just go talk to anybody.
	And it was true.
	And so everybody was talking to everybody eventually.
	But Mimi would grab people that were on the periphery that looked like they were uncomfortable.
	Oh, good.
	And kind of push him and just introduce yourself to this guy.
	Oh, good.
	Well, good.
	And you had a good time.
	It sounds like you had a good time.
	I did have a good time.
	And I thought it was a very entertaining event.
	I did have a note from Adam Kay, the lawyer, which was kind of interesting because I would read it during the donation segment next time.
	I want to read it now because there's a paragraph in here that I liked.
	Um...
	I'll read the rest of this on Sunday, but this one he says, Beautiful.
	That's exactly what it is.
	We're good.
	The no agenda community is open.
	That's what I like the most.
	We're open.
	And that's the result.
	And everybody liked each other.
	We've yet to do any of these things with a fist fight breaking out.
	Well, no.
	We haven't even come close, really.
	You'd think with 40 plus people that no fist fights.
	Well, we may do the next meet up at the mall.
	That'll be fun.
	Do something on the Facebook to save you.
	Exactly.
	I'm going to show myself a little by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.
	Yeah, on no agenda.
	In the morning.
	We do have a few people to thank for helping produce this show.
	890?
	Patrick Sullivan in Sturgeon County, Alberta, Canada.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	Deborah King.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Patrick Sullivan, this donation brings me to knighthood.
	I'd better get it off before January 1st when the Alberta carbon tax starts and I'll have no money to give.
	Please knight me, sir.
	Pat the overtaxed, saving the world by reverting to the Stone Age by taxing carbon dioxide.
	Thank you, and your ceremony's coming up, sir.
	I didn't know that was taking place then.
	That's terrible.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's the whole thing.
	That's the only reason they came up with the climate change deals.
	More taxes!
	Money.
	Yeah, money.
	Deborah King in Salem, Oregon.
	But you're saving the poor people in Africa, John.
	Who we have destroyed, they have no chance.
	We've given them no chances.
	Yes.
	Deborah King in Salem, Oregon.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	Jeffrey Long in Creighton, Nebraska.
	101.
	He had a note.
	Just thanks.
	Thanks for the shout-out.
	Shout-out to Sir Father Fish for reminding me not to be a boner.
	Thanks, Sir Father Fish.
	Richard Tilley in Pingtung County.
	T.W. is Taiwan, I believe.
	Yes.
	100.
	Ian Trimble, 100.
	Donald Dorsey in Pittsburgh, New York.
	Dorsey sent in a long handwritten, not handwritten, but a typed note that was, let's see if there's anything on here I want to read.
	Okay.
	I've been listening for less than a year, less than a half a year, so he's only been, he's a newbie.
	But I'm a strong supporter of what you're doing, even if my donations so far amount to only, this being the first one enclosed, I was once a professional, oh, okay, this I have to read.
	Now I realize where, I wonder where this note went.
	I was once a professional newspaper man for Gannett, and then a freelance journalist, back when...
	When a respect for balance and factual truth was still a fundamental part of being a journalist.
	I am now a ghostwriter, blogger, and a moderately successful painter.
	Fine arts, not housing, even though I can paint an entire apartment in an afternoon, just like Der Fuhrer.
	He has this quote, two quotes!
	What has become of reporting and the media over the past decade is disturbing and disheartening.
	I voted for Obama in 2008 and voted against him in 2012, partly because of what I was happening in and through the media.
	And parents, he says, what happened to the Justice Department and the IRS under Obama was as disturbing as what was going on under Nixon, and yet East Coast media simply ignored it.
	The way it circled the wagons around Hillary during the height of the Benghazi controversy killed my waning tolerance for what I'd been seeing in Washington and in the mainstream press.
	It's only gotten worse.
	It's encouraging that your voices generate enough support with the value for value model that the podcast appears to be secure for now.
	We need both of you and more like you attempting to speak impartially about the way in which what used to be called the fourth estate has become a propaganda machine.
	Yeah.
	I'm overdue for a de-douching.
	I'd also like to get a Putin followed by a thanks Obama with a we.
	He'd be very pleased.
	He didn't know whether Hunter's enough for a call-out.
	Probably not.
	He doesn't want anonymity, so you're free to identify me by preferred Dave from Rochester until I earn my desired title of Lord of the Absent Mind.
	Keep on keeping on, he says.
	I thought that was a very...
	That's a good note.
	That's a very good note.
	Yeah, it's a very good note.
	Let me give him the karma and the stuff he asked for.
	Hold on a second.
	Putin!
	Thanks, Obama.
	You've got karma.
	I want to talk about that note at some point in the future insofar as what needs to be done to the mainstream media.
	Okay, alright.
	But not now.
	Name 17, Parts Unknown, $89.
	Nicholas van Strijdland in Hong Kong.
	Strijdland.
	Strijdland, okay, he's a Dutch.
	And he needs a deducing first time.
	You've been deduced.
	It's 8888.
	These are the last of the laggards of the 8888.
	Dame 17, I think, first?
	Yeah, I said Dame 17.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Yeah, then we have...
	My mistake.
	Yeah, that's the 8888s.
	Yeah.
	Douglas Pilgrim, 8888.
	Evan Rubington.
	Rubington.
	Rubinton.
	Rubinton.
	That's it.
	8888.
	These are all 8888s.
	David Ritchie, 8888.
	Sir Roadwolf in North Tonawanda, New York.
	Joe Campagna in Ontario, California.
	I think he was at the meetup.
	Christopher Gray in Covington, Louisiana.
	A couple of people came in from out of state.
	Nice.
	Doc Monda in Parts Unknown.
	James P. Rogers in Wilmington, Delaware.
	And that's the end of that.
	Marianne Sabia, $85.
	joshua brickman in 88.88 long jingle for one boob Yeah, there's one boob.
	Marco Strauss.
	Sorry, Marco, you're not really a boob, but you gave the boob donation.
	Ithaca, New York.
	Alexander Schulzberger in Accra.
	Accra, D-E is either Deutschland or Delaware.
	Oh, Delaware, maybe.
	Yeah, Delaware.
	That's 69-69.
	Steven Hutto in Denver, Colorado.
	60-60.
	Derby Dyke is 56-78.
	Maxim Rudolph in Ljubljana.
	Ah, Ljubljana, Slovenia.
	55-33.
	Josh McDonald, 55 double nickels on the dime.
	Ryan T. And by the way, Maxim has a birthday call out of some sort.
	I got it.
	It's a complex reason for whatever he gave.
	Ryan T. Porten.
	Sir Donald Winkler in Berlin, Deutschland.
	Michael Kilosism.
	Sir Kevin Payne in Richmond, Virginia.
	54, 5432.
	Sir Brian Kaufman in Phoenix, Arizona, 50-50.
	Todd Elgee in Katy, Texas, 50-15.
	And now we had $50 donors at the end.
	Benjamin Garlock in Savoy, Illinois.
	Shad Rich, and you know what?
	Parts Unknown, the Los Angeles USA.
	Bryn Evans, 50.
	Sandy Geisler in Watkinsville, Georgia.
	Donald Napier in Oviedo, Florida.
	Matthew Durney, I think it's me, sir.
	Christine Williams in Dallas, Texas.
	Joe Schwartz Bauer in Florissant, Missouri.
	Mitchell Kaufman in Hillsboro, Oregon.
	Sir Peter Totes in the UK.
	Ross Turpin in Troy, Kansas.
	Ben Durall in Malta, New York.
	David Middlebrook.
	Angela Combera in Prescott, Arizona.
	Christine Hewn, parts Unknown.
	Sir Cavido of Richmond.
	Ashley Blanco.
	Zachary Saldivar in San Angelo, Texas.
	And last but not least, Lucero, Lucero or Lucero Moes in Valla Beach, New South Wales, Australia.
	I want to thank all these folks for helping us produce show 890.
	889 and 890, both.
	889 and 890.
	889, yes, and 890.
	Exactly.
	Thank you all very much.
	Also, thank you everybody who came in under $50, usually for reasons of anonymity, but also a lot of people on those extended layaway plans for knighthood.
	Also, you know, the subscriptions.
	It's all appreciated.
	Lots of people sending clips.
	You know the deal.
	Value for value.
	We do the value.
	You give it right back to us.
	It's copacetic.
	It's a beautiful world.
	Lots of people asking for jobs.
	Karma, here it comes.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	And remember us for Sunday's show.
	Dvorak.org.
	Slash N.A.
	It's your birthday, birthday.
	I'm so much.
	And the list for today.
	Christopher Graves is happy birthday to Ryan.
	He turns one year old tomorrow.
	Maxim Rudolph says happy birthday to his smoking hot girlfriend.
	Ida celebrated the day before Christmas.
	Ashley Blanco, happy birthday to her husband Chris, 41 yesterday.
	And Andres Dominici turns 49 tomorrow.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
	Happy birthday, yeah!
	That's right.
	Now we have one, two.
	We have three nightings, John.
	No title changes, just three nightings.
	So if...
	Hello?
	Put down the recorder and pick up your blade.
	Here it is.
	Got it.
	All right, we need Anonymous up on the stage.
	Age Anonymous and Patrick Sullivan.
	I have contributed to the best podcast in the universe in an amount of $1,000 and more, and therefore I'm very proud to pronounce the Knights of the Noah General Roundtable, and the names will be Sir of the Northern Territories, Sir Age Anonymous, Black Knight of the O, and Sir Pat the Overtaxed.
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	And give Eric the Show all of your details, and we'll get the rings out to you as soon as possible.
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	Oh, you know what I wanted to do today?
	I have a segment to do.
	Good.
	We got a little bit of tech news here for you, everybody.
	And I wanted to start off with a new development in the war on cash.
	And we were talking about the problem...
	You have my attention.
	I know you do.
	I know I do.
	We were talking about the issue, my personal issue, when there is no more cash, how can I give cash to the homeless people?
	Right.
	And you routinely give them five bucks, because I've adopted, by the way.
	Yeah, and I don't discriminate.
	You ask me for money, here you go.
	How can I qualify if someone needs it or not?
	However, this will be a problem.
	I think my initial answer was, hey man, give me your square so I can swipe you five bucks.
	But in the Netherlands, where cash is really on the out, there are stores there where you can only pay with your pin and no longer with cash.
	Well, in Amsterdam, the government is trying something new for the homeless.
	It is called the pin jacket.
	And it is a coat that you put on and it has a big badge on it.
	This is great.
	Yeah, a big badge.
	And because a lot of these cards in the Netherlands have RFID, you can just tap it.
	So it'll probably work with Apple Pay.
	And you just tap the person's jacket with your card, and you've given them money.
	Okay, so let's begin with the logic of this and the feasibility.
	Let's do feasibility.
	First of all, they have to be wearing the jacket.
	Yeah.
	Now, can't they just give them like a wallet or something?
	I guess that could get stolen.
	Or just maybe a button.
	No, because they're wearing the jacket and it's integrated in the jacket.
	Yeah, they have to be wearing this jacket.
	So you have to steal the jacket in order to take it.
	Which is harder to do.
	Yeah.
	So now where do they get the jacket?
	The government.
	The government is giving the homeless these very nice jackets, big down jacket.
	So you're nice and warm.
	That's nice.
	And each time you hit your pin card against the RFID, tap it, it's one euro.
	And there's even a little display in it.
	So it's got a little number.
	So we're talking about homeless people wearing some sort of a device that's got a number that crops up, credits.
	Yeah.
	It'll show you that you added a little number.
	It's like one of those parking machines.
	It's like the movie Brazil.
	It's like a lot of things.
	None of it really good, actually.
	Yeah.
	No one's outraged by this, by the way.
	Oh, great idea.
	Great.
	What about the homeless?
	Are they outraged by it?
	I'm sure they like the jacket.
	Yeah, they're getting a free jacket, sure.
	Has anyone passed a rumor all around saying that this is all GPS, it's for population control?
	No, I haven't heard any of that yet.
	Crowd control?
	You've got a GPS and they know where every plum is?
	And on your statement, when you've donated your euro, on your statement, it'll say thanks from, you know, Carla, whoever was wearing the jacket.
	Thanks for giving me a euro.
	It's unbelievable.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, really.
	Don't you think cash would be better just to give them some money?
	You know, here's a couple bucks.
	Yes, but it's not about controlling the homeless with the GPS jack.
	It's about controlling the non-homeless by having you use digital money, get really used to it, and then when you're not playing by the rules, we'll just turn off your money.
	You know, this never comes up in the conversation when people talk about this.
	And I don't understand why it never comes up in the conversation.
	I mean, you can listen to all these tech nerd shows.
	They never bring this up.
	Well, no, because we're not on them anymore.
	What if somebody in the government takes a dislike to you and decides to just cancel all your money?
	I have had something similar happen, but yes.
	What happened to you?
	All my bank accounts were frozen in the Netherlands.
	They had a disliking of me.
	They felt that I had a big mouth.
	And they said, well, just to make sure, we're going to investigate you.
	But to make sure you don't do anything, we're going to lock up all your money.
	I could not get more than 100 euros out of the machine.
	And they kept it locked up for months.
	Months?
	Six months, yeah.
	What's to prevent them from just stealing your money?
	Nothing.
	I've had that happen in the United States.
	Also, my money was transferred out of my account.
	This happened in the 90s.
	And there was a mix-up.
	Ah, that's the third item.
	The mix-up.
	Yeah, the mix-up.
	Which can easily happen.
	It happens to everybody, especially when they're dealing with American banks.
	Yeah, so what happened in my case is, this was in the 90s, and mortgages were already being sold, and I sent in my mortgage check, and whatever happened, it never arrived or was cashed by the wrong company.
	It was very strange, and I didn't know anything about that.
	I was like, wow, this check went around the world.
	But I guess they put all kinds of liens and stuff on me, and before I knew it, there was tax implications.
	Then I tried to get money on the way to MTV in the morning, and I couldn't get anything out of it.
	I'd go in the bank, and they'd say, oh, it's been transferred to this strange account number with a lot of zeros in it.
	And the government had just transferred it right out.
	1990, 91, maybe.
	Well, I can see why you're against this idea.
	I've had it happen.
	I know exactly what's going to happen.
	And I have to say, I love Apple Pay.
	There's no doubt the ease of it, but I always have cash in my pocket.
	Always.
	Mainly for the homeless people.
	Well, I don't like any of it.
	Apple Pay included.
	No, of course not.
	Of course not.
	Alright, well I have a tech news piece.
	I just thought this was interesting.
	I don't know why they did this piece.
	What the deal was was on NBC. It was very elaborate.
	And this was a whole segment.
	I recorded most of it.
	About resetting your phone.
	Apparently, people are selling used phones and stuff, and it's being used as a very easy way to do an identity theft thing.
	And so NBC actually did a really...
	I thought this was a public service.
	I don't know who it may have been a native ad.
	I don't know who it would be for, but it seemed like a public service to me.
	And this is a little long clip.
	I guess it's a couple minutes.
	It was resetting your phone and laptop.
	Good information, I thought.
	Back now with a warning for everyone who got a new smartphone or laptop this holiday.
	As you switch on those new devices, beware of all the ultra-personal information on old devices you're getting rid of.
	Even if you think you've deleted it all, complete strangers could still use it to access a treasure trove of sensitive data.
	NBC's national investigative correspondent Jeff Rawson and his team share what you need to know to protect your information in tonight's Rawson Reports.
	We store everything on our phones and laptops, emails, texts, even shopping and banking information.
	When I delete stuff off this thing, I assume it's gone.
	All of that information is still there, easily accessible by anyone, even thieves.
	We want to see for ourselves, so we buy dozens of used cell phones online.
	Laptops, too.
	We bring them to be analyzed.
	This would be a identity thieves goldmine.
	This laptop we bought for $75, giving us full access to the family we bought it from.
	Home address, phone numbers, personal family pictures.
	That's scary.
	We found tax information.
	Right down to their bank routing numbers, even account numbers.
	So who does it belong to?
	This suburban mom named Tracy.
	I track her down.
	I want to show you all the things that we pulled off of your computer.
	All of my financial information, my place of employment.
	Social Security numbers of your entire family?
	Social Security numbers of everyone.
	People can do some damage with that information.
	Think that's bad?
	On this next device, a cell phone belonging to Aria, a college freshman, we find 3,000 private text messages, secret passwords to her student scholarship, social media accounts, and shopping apps, even when and where she goes to class.
	We set up a meeting to tell her what we found.
	It's just scary.
	You can lose everything just from a phone because I have all my information on there.
	So how do you really wipe your devices clean?
	Let's show you.
	Starting with the iPhone.
	I have one called up right here.
	First thing is you hit settings right there.
	You come here to general.
	Once you hit that, you scroll all the way down to the bottom.
	You see it says reset right there.
	You hit that.
	Then you want to look for this.
	Erase all content and settings.
	You hit that and you get that magic phrase right there.
	Erase iPhone.
	On Android devices, some models want you to go into settings and encrypt the data.
	Then you want a factory reset here, too.
	You hit settings right there.
	You hit backup and reset.
	Scroll down to factory data reset, reset device, and your information is gone.
	As for laptops, experts say there is no factory reset.
	So take the hard drive out before selling.
	Jeff Rossin, NBC News, Salt Lake City.
	We're all new!
	I thought that was a reasonable little segment.
	Yes, and it flows nicely into my segment.
	And by the way, just before we finish that, if you take those hard disks out, you can reuse them and put them in some sort of array.
	Or, if you don't want to out there, take a big drill.
	Yeah, that's the way to do it.
	The drill through the drive.
	Drill into the thing and you're in good shape.
	Yes.
	But of course, the overall point of this is that we leave our digital breadcrumbs everywhere.
	And this story cropped up, and of course the focus of the story is the wrong focus.
	Amazon's popular home assistant Echo, better known as Alexa, was a bestseller this Christmas.
	Now police in Bentonville, Arkansas, hope Alexa can help solve a real-life whodunit.
	But Amazon is saying no to a warrant seeking electronic data in the form of audio recordings, transcribed records, text records from an echo inside a home where a murder may have been committed.
	When you buy one of these things, even if it's not on, it's on and it's listening.
	Prosecutors say 32-year-old James Bates murdered his co-worker Victor Collins, who was found strangled in Bates' hot tub.
	Bates, who called my...
	How many times do I have to tell you?
	I don't know.
	No hot tubs.
	Murdered his co-worker Victor Collins, who was found strangled in Bates' hot tub.
	Bates, who called 911, pled not guilty.
	He's scheduled to go to trial next year.
	His attorney says Bates has nothing to hide, but this is an issue of privacy.
	You should be able to do what you want in your home, and that is free from the view of public, the view of police.
	Tonight, Amazon tells NBC News it will not release customer information without a valid and binding legal demand properly served on us.
	Amazon objects to overbroad and otherwise inappropriate demands as a matter of course.
	The prosecutor says this is about justice.
	We have established probable cause and obtained a warrant from a judge to search this device the same way we would search a person's cell phone, we would search a person's home.
	Tonight, a murder in Arkansas, igniting the debate over privacy inside the home, and if what's heard there can be used against you.
	Okay, a couple of things about this story, because this is what you'll hear on all the Tech Horny shows.
	Okay, and I want to also have a couple of things to say about that story being poorly developed, but go on.
	First of all, I have tested, and this thing does not send, as far as I can tell from my test, doesn't send anything until you've used the wake word, you use the command, the microphone or the recognition stops, it sends it off for parsing, and it comes back with whatever it's supposed to come back with.
	There's nothing else going out, as far as I know.
	There's nothing else being recorded on the device itself, as far as I know.
	But the real story is not in this report, but in the written report.
	As police say, this guy Bates had several other smart home devices, including a smart meter for his water.
	That piece of text shows that 140 gallons of water were used between 1 a.m.
	and 3 a.m.
	the night Collins was found dead in the Bates' hot tub.
	Investigators alleged the water was used to wash away evidence of what happened off of the patio.
	So the real story here, and we've always had problems with the smart meters, but all of this Internet of Things technology is of course leaving you with all kinds of trails and things.
	And in this case, the water meter is very, we have a problem with that in Austin already.
	People are getting fined without investigators going around seeing if you're watering your lawn at the wrong time.
	No, they just look at your meter.
	Whoa, boy, you've used too much water here at this wrong time.
	You're getting a fine.
	And they just get a fine in the mail.
	Which, of course, with the cashless society, will be automatically deducted from your bank account.
	Right, exactly.
	And you wrapped it up!
	In one breath, too.
	You wrapped it all around into one cute little bundle.
	Nice, huh?
	Yeah, that's outstanding.
	And just one thing about Twitter...
	You rarely do the bundle.
	Yeah, I try.
	About Twitter and, you know, it being a media company and this verified thing.
	Let me ask you a question.
	So, Bana, the seven-year-old who's verified...
	On Twitter?
	The seven-year-old from Aleppo?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So now her mom continuously says, I'm writing this.
	It's not her mom because the English is just above that.
	And I have multiple Syrians and boots on the ground verifying.
	And that's not surprising.
	But for Twitter, I have a question.
	If the seven-year-old is verified on Twitter, but her mom is posting, your verified status means shit.
	It's not the kid posting.
	It's her mom.
	Verified is false.
	Fact-checked false.
	Seriously.
	Think about that for a moment.
	I don't have to think about it.
	I don't think about it at all.
	I don't care to think about it.
	I'm not thinking about it.
	We've got to show you no stinking badges.
	Don't think about it.
	I've got one more story.
	A tech story?
	Yeah, just to show you how lost the music business is.
	Universal Music Group recruited Ty Roberts as their new SVP and Chief Technology Officer.
	And so he is tasked with coming up with great ideas to save the music business.
	And he's saying, oh, no, no, no, no.
	It's going to change.
	Today, a product is more like an API. As a fan, you should be able to talk to the computer server at Universal, which serves you back the latest thing, a package of music information, and here are some people talking about it, the lyrics, and more.
	And it didn't just stop there.
	It didn't just stop there.
	Do you want to go on a virtual date with someone you've met across the internet inside a Peter Gabriel album and walk around Peter Gabriel's world together?
	That kind of experience is going to be possible.
	What a tool!
	What a tool!
	It's unbelievable.
	These guys are so lost.
	Who wants to do that in the first place?
	Nobody wants to walk inside Peter Gabriel's album.
	How does that even work?
	No!
	Not looking to do that.
	And then finally, it's fun to watch on the sidelines how Apple is freaking out.
	I was looking at getting the new MacBook Pro, which I've been told to hold off on.
	I was told before Consumer Reports came out, they're saying, ah, the battery's no good.
	It varies between 19 hours and 4 hours.
	And one.
	What's that?
	Apparently the batteries are just terrible.
	They crap out, so they decided to take the amount of time left on the battery instead of...
	The new fix on the thing is not to tell anybody how long the battery has left.
	Yeah, but apparently there's also some issues with the processor going wild and just running out of control.
	I don't know.
	It could happen.
	Yeah.
	But the inside word I have is it's all software.
	It's not hardware.
	So we'll see.
	They got a lot of...
	My final gripe, and this happened with the upgrade...
	This is happening.
	Wait, how many years went by before they came with this new one?
	Oh, way too long.
	Oh, yeah.
	Way too long.
	You'd think they would have tested it thoroughly.
	This is the number one complaint.
	Of course.
	Everyone's like, what are you guys doing?
	And we all know they're doing whatever they can do because Steve's dead and it's tough.
	It's hard without the iron fist of the asshole Steve Jobs because that's how he operated.
	And people complained about him, but he got stuff done.
	So here's something that's gone very wrong.
	On the iPhone.
	iOS 10.
	I think it started with one upgrade before this one.
	They have this feature called auto-capitalization.
	And it's under the keyboard settings.
	So when you start a sentence, the first letter is capitalized.
	Right?
	That is great.
	Right?
	When you do a period...
	And you start a new sentence or you just period, space, capitalized.
	However, many apps have decided to do this for you, such as WhatsApp and I have Spark email.
	They want to do this for you.
	And what happens is, it counteracts somehow, and when the app is trying to make it capitalize, the iPhone goes, oh no you don't, and then it puts it lowercase.
	So there's this constant battle between apps, so now you have to continuously watch your typing, like, do I have capitalization right?
	It's a huge bug.
	Huge bug.
	Well, my advice is to turn off AutoCap.
	I did.
	And then you get, again, if you get used to hitting the caps, you know, the uppercase key, then you'll find that you're making lowercase on the apps that want to make it uppercase.
	It's a whole UI issue that is really beneath Apple to run into this problem, I think.
	Very stupid.
	But that's just my gripe.
	That's the least of your complaints.
	My life is pretty good.
	Pretty good.
	And that's it for tech news.
	The only good phone's a lamplight, and the phone should be made out of bakelite.
	That's right.
	I do have a cute little thing to play for us today.
	Okay, play.
	Cute little thing, a little air traffic control bit.
	Always nice to listen to air traffic control, who were very aware that this would eventually be put on the interwebs.
	You are going to listen to air traffic control, sequencing aircraft, making aircraft wait briefly so that November 757 Alpha Foxtrot can take off.
	That is also known as Trump Force One.
	So we'll let you know momentarily here we get to clear.
	It's probably the next five minutes or so.
	Oh man, you ain't kidding.
	This is my lucky day.
	I don't think you've ever heard of a canceled letter.
	Yeah, I don't think I have everything.
	And I get to see the Trump plane take off.
	What do you know?
	Roger.
	We heard that over here.
	Southwest 235 contact departures 126.55.
	126.55.
	Southwest 235.
	See ya.
	Oh, by the way, when the pilot does that, everyone thinks, what a dick.
	See ya.
	Like a cowboy.
	See ya.
	No, no.
	Everyone is thinking, oh, a douche.
	6.55, get that.
	126.55, start the list 235.
	See ya.
	See ya.
	Remember, 757 Alpha Foxtrot wins 250 at 10.
	One right, 23, clear for takeoff.
	Clear for takeoff, 7 Alpha Foxtrot.
	And that's exactly how you want your pilots done, Doug.
	Clear for takeoff.
	That's Trump's pilot.
	And Delta 465, I do have the clearance for you, but it has a slight amendment to your routing, so let me know when you're ready to copy.
	You know what, Tyler?
	Stand by one.
	We're trying to take a picture of this Trump plane.
	Take it off.
	You sure you don't want me to just email it to you?
	It's probably better as you up here.
	Well, I tell you what, if we get our email address out there, all we're going to do is start to get these light chop jokes sent to our inbox.
	Well, I like that the truth.
	I'm sure somebody out there is probably recording this, too, and it's going to hit the internet.
	Oh, man, you know it.
	Number 757 Alpha Foxtrot, contact departures 126.55.
	Have a nice flight, and thanks for making ATC great again.
	126.55 Foxtrot, no problem.
	You guys take care.
	I'm sure we'll be hearing this on the internet later today, too.
	That was funny.
	I just thought, a little pilot humor there.
	That was very funny.
	I do have a global warming report.
	Oh, then we need to open up the gates.
	To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gates.
	And of course...
	By global warming report, I mean global cooling report.
	Ruh-roh.
	Is this a clip?
	Is this a clip I'm supposed to play?
	It's a global cooling report.
	It wasn't capitalized.
	At the end of the long holiday weekend, the weather is a top concern tonight.
	Already the post-Christmas rush is off to a slow start after whiteout conditions and fierce winds in parts of the plains and upper Midwest and freezing rains.
	That could complicate travel in the Northeast.
	Tonight, for the first time, we're also hearing one mother's incredible survival story, hiking 26 miles in the snow after her family's car got trapped near the Grand Canyon.
	Gabe Gutierrez is tracking the worst of the weather tonight.
	Tonight, the upper Midwest is digging out after a relentless Christmas blizzard.
	How the heck am I getting out of here?
	Many roads in the Dakotas, impassable.
	240 miles of I-94 shut down.
	Shut down!
	Blanketed Bismarck, while treacherous wind snarled air traffic.
	We pulled up to check our bag at the curbside, and they told us our flight was canceled.
	More than 300 U.S. flights canceled.
	At least 2,800 delayed.
	It's a little frustrating, but what are you going to do?
	They can't control it?
	In Arizona, an out-of-control situation near the Grand Canyon is now an incredible survival story.
	If I don't find shelter, I'm not going to make it another night.
	Oh, boy.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, well, we've been saying global cooling.
	Whenever the government says right, you just go left, and then you're good to go.
	Uh, well, okay.
	I have some good things here.
	We cannot let this program go without speaking briefly, at least, about the fracas of the United Nations New World Order problems.
	Yes, yes, I have clips.
	Oh, good.
	What I want to do, I have a background which comes from an unexpected source.
	I want to say Michael Bolton.
	Not Michael Bolton.
	Michael Bolton.
	The other guy.
	The former ambassador to UN. Yeah, Bolton.
	Bolton.
	And he explains in a relatively short amount of time what the real problem is with this resolution.
	The resolution, which I read, doesn't really say much, but it actually nullifies an older resolution.
	And that's what's at play here.
	And this is, I think, a good backgrounder.
	I think the real trouble with resolution 2334 is that it implicitly repeals the well-known resolution 242 adopted by the Security Council after the 1967 war between Israel and the Arab states nearby that created the doctrine known as land for peace that Israel after 67 and after the 73 war would give back land That it had taken in battle in
	exchange for peace.
	So, for example, the Camp David peace agreement of 1979 with Egypt, Israel basically gave back that part of the Sinai Peninsula it had taken in the 73 war and got the Camp David peace agreement.
	What people are now arguing is that that is invalid, that the remaining territories that Israel once occupied after these wars really are not in its power to give back, so that Israel has to give in to borders that 242 flatly said...
	We're not defensible and not secure.
	And there's a lot of back and forth about the language of the resolutions, but the fact is this is an extraordinarily radical step by an outgoing American president intended to box in his successor.
	I think that's pretty accurate.
	Yeah.
	It's exactly what it is.
	So here's my report.
	This came from NBC. This is the kind of a rundown backgrounder.
	This is Obama or Israel Obama kerfluffle.
	Kerfluffle.
	Does anyone use the word kerfluffle in the actual report?
	Kerfluffle, I do.
	A war of words is picking up steam among President Obama, Donald Trump, and the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu over that UN resolution condemning Israeli settlements and the U.S.'s willingness to let it pass.
	And that's not the only clash tonight between the president and president-elect.
	NBC's Hallie Jackson has the latest.
	Tonight, new fallout after a flashpoint in U.S.-Israeli relations.
	A United Nations Security Council resolution reprimanding Israel for West Bank settlements, seen as a slap to Israel, one the U.S. chose not to block with its veto.
	Israel, furious, now accusing the U.S. of orchestrating the resolution itself.
	We have proof.
	I don't believe it.
	We know it.
	And we'll share it with the incoming administration through the appropriate channels.
	The Israeli ambassador echoing the allegations of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
	As I told John Kerry on Thursday, friends don't take friends to the Security Council.
	But it's Egypt who pushed the resolution.
	Senior White House aide Ben Rhodes insisting Friday, we did not draft or introduce this resolution.
	Do you not believe, do you not trust the U.S. government when they deny having anything to do with this?
	Well, Ben Rose is an expert in fiction.
	Donald Trump, far from staying out of the fight, tweeting this weekend, quote, the big loss for Israel and the United Nations will make it much harder to negotiate peace.
	And late today, slamming the U.N. as just a club for people to get together, talk and have a good time.
	So sad.
	The escalating tension underscoring Netanyahu's chilly relationship with President Obama and his warm one with President-elect Trump.
	Previewing potential changes in this diplomatic alliance and a break in some ways with decades of U.S. power.
	Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm.
	Well, now...
	Oh, okay.
	First, just as an aside...
	I'm probably going to do a little side bits on this every once in a while.
	I think Holly Jackson, who did that report, has got the absolute perfect female voice for broadcasting or for just chatting.
	I agree.
	Yes, I agree with that.
	Nice voice.
	She's crystal clear.
	She sounds like a woman.
	She doesn't talk with up-speak or down-speak or any of this dumb crap.
	There's no fry.
	I was listening to these different women on NBC, and I think Holly Jackson has a perfect voice for a reporter.
	Great.
	I will follow that closely.
	All right, I have some other things to discuss regarding this.
	We have noticed John Kerry's tell many times.
	The tongue?
	It's the tongue, and usually it's a cough.
	Right, he's got a little cough, and the tongue has got out of control recently.
	Yeah.
	I was watching, and the tongue damn near came completely out of his mouth.
	It was licking the microphone, the thing was out so far.
	But when he went into this, I just wanted to, because it's horrible to listen to him, but I do have his transition from his speech to the tell.
	Israel's permanent representative to the United Nations, who does not support a two-state solution, said after the vote last week, quote, it was to be expected that Israel's greatest ally would act in accordance with the values that we share.
	Time for the tell.
	To veto this resolution.
	Okay, here we go.
	I am compelled to respond today that the United States did, in fact, vote in accordance with our values.
	I mean, this guy, he even said, I'm compelled, no, I'm forced to say, and his throat is all choked up.
	The tail is enormous, and his tongue's flapping.
	Unbelievable.
	Yeah.
	What do you think this is all about?
	This is something going on behind the scenes.
	This is Obama poisoning.
	There's a lot of evidence he's poisoning the well for the next guy.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	I have Krauthammer.
	What a lousy precedent to do that.
	Another thing I've got to say is that it's lousy.
	Here's Krauthammer from Fox.
	I play Krauthammer because the ladies love the kraut.
	Have you noticed this?
	The ladies love the Krauthammer.
	I don't know why.
	Tino loves him.
	I think it's because he's in a wheelchair and he's all messed up.
	It's the only man that you can always...
	I love him for his mind.
	If it's a hot looking guy, then it sounds suspicious.
	But he's got a great mind.
	Well, most Americans are not aware of the fact that we pay about a quarter of the freight to the UN. So we're paying an organization that spends half its time, more than half its time, and energy and resources and bureaucracy trying to attack the only Jewish state on the planet, a tiny little speck, while genocide, mayhem, It's an obsession that to an outside observer appears to be insane.
	Why are we doing this?
	And the rest of the time is spent undermining the United States and democracy and our allies around the world.
	It is an organization that exacerbates tensions.
	It does not assuage them.
	It was born in hope.
	The end of the Second World War, it turned out to be a disaster.
	Any move to minimize our support for it, any move to get it out of the U.S., imagine if headquarters were in Zimbabwe, the amount of weight and coverage it would get.
	It would be zero.
	I think that's good real estate in downtown New York City, and Trump ought to find a way to put his name on it and turn it into condos.
	Good old crowd hammer.
	Now, I will say this about that clip.
	That is actually becoming a talking point on all the right-wing radio shows.
	Ah, to mow down the UN building?
	No, leave the building there, but turn it into condos.
	It's got great views.
	Really?
	I didn't realize that was a thing.
	That's funny.
	And then the funniest response to all this came, of course, from that overnight legend, Don Lemon on CNN, who...
	Of course, you know, it's Christmas time, so what are you going to do?
	You're going to get the Jew on.
	The Jew is available.
	Alan Dershowitz.
	It doesn't matter in terms of international law.
	It doesn't matter in terms of...
	I'm the lawyer here.
	Let me tell you that international...
	I'm the lawyer here.
	Shut up, Don Lemons.
	I'm the lawyer here.
	Let me tell you, the international law is very, very unclear.
	I understand that's a legal argument, but according to the United Nations and according to the Geneva Convention, the argument that you're saying does not stand.
	According to the United Nations, Jews kill babies and take their organs.
	By God, for 25 years, they've been growing babies and cows!
	I love it.
	When did the U.N. say that?
	I don't know.
	I don't know this.
	They may have.
	That was fantastic.
	I love that.
	I love it.
	Now, the president...
	Now, this was very, very bad form.
	But once I heard the clip, it felt a little different to me.
	Big blow.
	Oh, the petulant child Obama.
	He said, if I ran for a third term, I would have beaten Trump.
	That was the headline.
	I have a clip about this from RT, which kind of takes a funny slant with it.
	Let me play the actual quote.
	And this was from a podcast, interestingly enough.
	Yes, what podcast was this?
	The Axelrod Podcast.
	Oh, he's got a podcast.
	Yeah, well, it's a podcast, but I think it airs it all on CBS. So, you know, the accusation was really that the president, what a child.
	He said, well, if I had run against Trump, I would have beat him.
	That was the accusation.
	What he really said was a lot more nuanced.
	I'm confident that if I... If I had run again and articulated it, I think I could have mobilized a majority of the American people to rally behind it.
	In conversations that I've had with people around the country, even some people who disagreed with me, they would say the vision, the direction that you point towards is the right one.
	Okay.
	So he didn't really...
	He kind of did.
	But it's not as bad as it was made out to be.
	I'm just saying that that's not...
	It was a little more nuanced.
	I would have kicked his butt, man!
	Yeah.
	I think he kind of said it.
	Let's hear your RT. Do you need a setup?
	RT doesn't really say that he's really said either.
	I just think that they extrapolate it better.
	The way Axelrod, I mean, and all these pauses.
	Yeah.
	I think they tighten it up.
	So let's see what he said.
	Outgoing U.S. President Barack Obama has claimed that if he'd been legally able to run for a third term, that he would have been backed by the majority of voters and beaten Donald Trump.
	I'm confident that if I had run again and articulated it, I think I could have mobilized a majority of the American people to rally behind it.
	His successor, Donald Trump, took to Twitter to reject the idea that he would have lost, saying that his success came from Democrat failures during Obama's time in office.
	Miguel Francis Santiago takes a look back at the outgoing president's record sheet.
	So Obama is confident he could have won this election.
	That's quite a statement from someone whose party lost its mojo.
	No, seriously, 2016 has become the worst year for the Democrats in almost a century.
	From when Obama took office in 2008 through 2016 elections, Democrats have lost 63 seats in the House, 11 seats in the Senate, 13 governorships, and nearly 1,000 seats in state legislatures.
	This is the lowest they've got since the 1920s, and even the Democrats themselves admit they lack strategy or a plan.
	How many seats do we have to lose before we make a change?
	We're not even a national party at this point.
	I think Obama may have lost even worse than Hillary in the election here.
	American people were kind of fed up with Obama policies.
	Hillary was associated with those policies, but they were Obama's policies, and I think The voters would have turned against him as well.
	Thanks, Obama.
	Less than 10 minutes to go.
	10 minute warning.
	So I thought RT gave him the needle a little better.
	He deserves the needle for sure.
	I just thought it was a little more nuanced.
	Do you remember when President Obama, I think it was before he was president, 2008, when he talked about visiting all 57 states of America?
	Right.
	Let me just remind you with that clip.
	Because, you know, it is just wonderful to be back in Oregon, and over the last 15 months we've traveled to every corner of the United States.
	I've now been in 57 states.
	I think one left to go.
	One left to go.
	Alaska and Hawaii I was not allowed to go to, even though I really wanted to visit, but my staff would not justify it.
	Actually, I'd never really realized that he said his staff wouldn't justify him going to Alaska and Hawaii.
	But there he was, 57 states, whether it was a joke or not.
	And it didn't sound like it to me.
	No, we decided it wasn't a joke.
	It was just a misspeak.
	Well, I'm wondering about that.
	There was a big meeting in Minnesota.
	And Keith Ellison, who's a congressman, a Democrat from Minnesota, he had a whole idea about a strategy for the Democratic Party.
	You know, what does it matter if a man can sit at the lunch counter, but he can't afford a hamburger?
	We have got to be all about that, and the work started on November 9th.
	Let me share with you my plan.
	I believe we need not just a 57-state strategy, but a 3,143,000-county strategy.
	Now, is there something that we're missing?
	What?
	And right away, you get Clip of the Day for that.
	Thank you.
	Gee.
	What?
	Isn't that nuts?
	Why is it the same 57?
	Is there some code going on here?
	That's what I'm trying to figure out.
	It has to be code.
	At the time, there was talk about it being the 57 Islamic states.
	Well, Ellison is Muslim, and so is Obama, as far as I'm concerned.
	I've seen no real evidence that he's not.
	They're going to take the prayer rugs out of the White House when Trump comes in, apparently.
	It's an underreported story.
	Oh, I didn't hear about that.
	Oh, yeah.
	And Ellison is a Muslim, and he is going to take over the Democratic Party.
	He's headed to be the next head of the DNC. Well, the 57 may relate to something that we don't know anything about.
	Again, if you look at Snopes, because as you know, they are...
	Fact check, false.
	They say that Obama's 57 state statement is mixed.
	Yes, yes, he said 57 states, but no, the president was not referring to the 57 states of Islam.
	Let me see what this is.
	We need to...
	Where are we?
	Here we are.
	Where's...
	Let me see.
	57 states of Islam.
	Let me see if I can find something.
	Hmm.
	Yes.
	Here it is.
	Now we're treading new water.
	That's right.
	Organization of Islamic Cooperation, OIC, is an international organization founded in 1969 consisting of 57 member states.
	The organization that it is, the collective voice of the Muslim world, So there's your 57 states, which I'm sure is just a conspiracy theory, but I mean, my God, I remember as a kid, I think I told this story once.
	My parents sat us down one Sunday evening and said, guess where you guys are going tomorrow?
	And we've been at the International School of Amsterdam.
	I said, where are we going?
	They're going to Dutch school.
	What?!
	Barely spoke any Dutch.
	So I entered Dutch school in fifth grade.
	And the teacher, everyone kind of spoke some English, but Americans were not liked at the time.
	There was quite a big invasion, mainly the Vietnam War still going on.
	In fact, it ended when I was in school in the fifth or sixth grade.
	And at a certain point, the teacher's talking about the United States, and it's 52 states.
	And I raised my hand.
	I said, I'm sorry, we have 50 states.
	No!
	You're forgetting to count Alaska and Hawaii!
	I said, but it was 48, and it's the lower 40.
	No!
	Of course, I need to shut up.
	So I went home, and we had Encyclopedia Britannica.
	Brought that in the next day.
	Look, here it is, 48.
	Yes, but that's Encyclopedia Britannica from 1969, or whatever it was.
	It's not the most current version.
	So then I called the consulate, and my mom had one of those, you know, dictaphone cassette.
	Not dictaphone, but, you know, just the small portable.
	I don't remember you ever telling this story.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, it's almost over.
	No, I like this story.
	Because you run into this sort of thing all around.
	Oh, it was insane.
	And again, I'm the loser kid with Tourette's and a bad haircut who speaks almost no Dutch.
	And here I am, and I'm like, because I was really sure it was 50 states.
	Because it was.
	Yeah, my mom had this portable cassette recorder, which she used to play cassette.
	My grandmother at the time was the Watergate tapes.
	She would send them over and she actually called them the Watergate tapes.
	And my mom could listen to the hearings, which was televised, but not in Europe.
	So I use that.
	I call the consulate, the embassy, and they go and get someone.
	Well, we're pretty sure it's 50 states.
	We would know.
	I play that in school.
	I get detention.
	And never an admission.
	Never an admission.
	I know.
	You should track that person down and give them hell now.
	Yeah, what do you think of me now, dude?
	I've got a...
	My plan.
	Oops, sorry.
	What do you think I? Yes.
	Mayster, what was his name?
	He was actually a nice guy.
	He wasn't a horrible guy, but he was...
	You're a total douchebag to me.
	He would not take...
	He would just not accept it.
	So anyway, that kind of mistake when I was...
	How old was I? I was 10, 11, 12.
	I recognized how many states we had.
	How can you have this happening if it's not something for...
	It's got to be some kind of...
	I agree.
	It's got to be some code.
	My plan.
	Yeah.
	I believe we need not just a 57-state strategy, but a 3,143,000-county strategy.
	How many counties are there?
	I don't know.
	Everyone's talking about the counties.
	But let's see.
	Maybe it's on the sheet I have here.
	Let's see.
	What was his number again?
	What was his number?
	State strategy?
	But a 3,143?
	1,000?
	Yeah.
	3,143 counties.
	That's according to the Book of Knowledge.
	But that's 50 states, not 57.
	So what is wrong with these people?
	I think it's some sort of code.
	It must be.
	Or they got 57 Muslim states on the mind for some reason.
	I don't know why Obama wouldn't unless he's Muslim, which is what, you know, everyone seems to think.
	Hmm.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I have another...
	There's another annoying...
	Yeah, you can do annoying after I do this shorty.
	Okay.
	Just a shorty.
	It's here that we remember that even when hatred burns hottest, even when the tug...
	Of tribalism is at its most primal.
	We must resist.
	But resist, we must.
	The urge to turn inward.
	We must and we will much about that be committed.
	There you go.
	Just need to get out of the way.
	Okay, so here's, I'm watching Charlie Rose.
	I got Tiger Woods the golfers on.
	And he's a Stanford student when he was discovered as a superstar golfer.
	And he comes in.
	So one of his heroes are these older golfers like Jack Nicklaus, Arnold Palmer.
	And he tells this story about having a lunch with Arnold Palmer.
	And this kind of epitomizes the problem with amateur athletics in the United States, which is governed by a body called the NCAA, or he calls it the NCAA. And they have all these rules about all this just to keep it clean and fresh so nobody violates anything.
	I see this in this so-called ethics list that reporters are supposed to sign off on, which are borderline ludicrous, where you can't take more from...
	In other words, if somebody buys you a cup of coffee, you're a violation of somebody's ethics.
	I just thought this story was kind of fascinating.
	And we'd rap about, golly, we'd rap about so many different things and have the conversation and the dinners I've had with him were some of the great memories.
	The fondest memories I had was at Napa.
	I was in college and Arnold invited me over for dinner.
	So I go over to dinner and have dinner with him in Napa.
	And Arnold picks up the tab.
	And I'm not going to say, I'm a college student, I'm going to pick up my tab.
	It's Arnold Palmer.
	Well, I ended up became, my coach found out, and did you pick up the tab?
	No, Arnold did.
	Well, I reported into...
	The NCAAs, I'm declared ineligible.
	And so I go to the All-American in El Paso, and I have to write an Arnold Palmer check, $25 for my steak dinner.
	He has to cash the check, fax the copy back to the NCAAs, and then I was declared eligible to play in an All-American.
	Uh-huh.
	This is the kind of bullcrap that goes on everywhere.
	That is pretty nutty.
	It's just bullcrap.
	Crazy.
	You want to hear some real bullcrap?
	Fake news?
	North Korean President Kim Jong-un made the announcement over the weekend that his grandmother's birthday would replace Christmas this year.
	Kim Jong-suk was a communist activist in the 1940s who aided the revolution and installed the dictatorship.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, sure.
	Brother.
	Okay, I've got one little clip.
	This is shorty.
	I just thought this was kind of ironic that somebody came up with the numbers regarding CNN and MSNBC. I guess Fox isn't included in this, but this is the HG, home and garden television clip.
	Does the news get you down?
	Well, that might be very well the reason that HGTV has beat out CNN and all other news networks in a recent poll.
	Bloomberg is reporting that the network of house flippers and decorators saw its shares rise more than 30% this year.
	Alright, I'll give you one just for that.
	I think you deserve it.
	Yeah, you deserve it.
	That was a good one.
	It's sad.
	House flippers.
	It's sad.
	So I have to start adding HGTV to my beat now so that we remain relevant.
	Apparently.
	Oh, geez.
	Oh, well.
	Alrighty, everybody.
	Thank you so much for your support of the show.
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	So please do remember us for Sunday, Dvorak.org slash N-A. And Sunday will be the first of the new year.
	We're working on January 1st.
	Yes, it will be the first day.
	In fact, we're working on a holiday again.
	Yes, once again.
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	Alrighty.
	I got nothing else.
	Uh, nothing.
	Absolutely nothing else.
	Well, let me say Happy New Year to you in advance, then, sir.
	Oh, yes.
	Let me say Happy New Year to you and yours.
	Okay.
	And coming to you from the Crackpot...
	And everybody out there, Happy New Year to everyone.
	From the Crackpot Condo here in downtown Austin in the skyscraper, FEMA Region 6 on the government maps in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, where Plato say, woman who clean arena after dog show gets pick of litter.
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	We'll be back on Sunday.
	Until then, adios mofos!
	Adios mofos!
	Adios mofos!
	You are weak Americans.
	You are weak champions.
	You're well in our hearts.
	We will take them.
	But before we kill you first, try your pigs.
	You are weak Americans.
	You are weak Europeans.
	You're well in our eyes.
	We will take them before we kill you first.
	You pigs.
	You are weak Americans.
	You are weak Europeans.
	You're well in our eyes.
	We will take them before If you're blue and you don't know where there's fake news,
	why don't you get your Gitmo fix?
	Putin on the reds.
	Dressed up like a million dollar trooper.
	Trying not to look like Anderson Cooper, super pooper.
	Come, let's mix where John Benesta walks with kids.
	Oh, I mean pizzas in his midst.
	Putin on the Ritz.
	I've been watching you.
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	Standing across.
	In the morning.
	So some guy goes and he's traveling around and then he was like, oh, and we discovered the quaint little country of the Netherlands.
	And there they have this crazy guy, Gerd Wilders.
	And there they have this crazy guy, Gerd Wilders.
	Because it's going to come across to anyone who doesn't know the background of the country or of a politician, as how it sounds perfectly reasonable, sounds like a true story.
	It is completely wrong from beginning to end.
	Just so you know, it's all fake news.
	For its liberal, progressive, tolerant views, now comes along a man who's being called the Dutch Donald Trump.
	Maybe that's not fair, maybe it did.
	Maybe that's not fair, maybe it is. - Kurt Wilders. - Trying to catch a wave that many other populations in the US and Europe Let's bring in Bill Weir.
	Famously open-minded society.
	You know, the Dutch created that country out of mud and water, and they are famously...
	That's a little, yeah, that's how land reclamation works.
	What there, a little water?
	We can make a country.
	Yeah, right on.
	Let's do that.
	You know, they were the center of trade into the stock market.
	At one point it was the center of the universe, but okay, you can put it that way if you want.
	Kurt Wilders.
	Dutch Donald Trump.
	As this gentleman rises in the polls, he is now a favorite to become the prime minister.
	Dutch Donald Trump.
	Jews kill babies and take their organs.

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