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	Yes, I'm triggered now.
	I'm getting all weirded out.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Thursday, December 8th, 2016, and this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 884.
	This is No Agenda.
	Standing guard at the gates of your reality and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet here in February 6th, Austin Tejas.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where Plato's a woman who unfashionable and call kettle black probably have pan suit.
	I'm John C. Devorak.
	In the morning.
	Oh, man.
	I don't know.
	I don't know about this one.
	It was a little too much for me.
	Well, it was a little too long.
	Yeah, it was too long.
	That's what it was.
	It's okay.
	How can we complain for a guy that...
	When did he do this stuff?
	A couple thousand years ago?
	Oh, Plato?
	Yeah.
	Well, digging this stuff up is the problem.
	Yes, you gotta brush the dirt off.
	And that's just from your collection in your office.
	Well, yeah.
	Well, John, I have now officially appeared in a fake news report.
	Hey, by the way, appreciate the crank call from Max Keiser.
	Okay, so I was with Max and Stacey yesterday.
	They're in Austin.
	From RT, which of course is why I reference that I've been part of Fake News.
	Oh yeah, fake.
	And after, so we did two things, an interview and a podcast.
	I want to talk a little bit about what I learned.
	But then, because you know Max, right?
	Didn't he used to be a guest on your show?
	He was a guest on my show once.
	Oh, Silicon Spin, correct?
	Yes.
	Silicon Spin.
	Silicon Spin!
	So he says, hey, let's call Dvorak!
	He says that.
	Well, actually, it was because I was explaining to him and to him and Stacey, I was like, we never talk.
	We don't talk in between shows.
	Maybe we email back and forth.
	Rarely.
	Yeah, and it never works out.
	Well, no.
	Either we prepare a bit too much and it fails, or we're just yelling at each other.
	I've seen this clip already!
	And so he said, well, let's call Dvorak.
	Okay.
	He said, well, I don't know, man.
	If he answers, I'd be surprised.
	I only have eight phone numbers for you.
	I don't know which one is really the number.
	And so he calls him.
	What did he say?
	He said, hey, who's the Bitcoin guy?
	Oh, yeah.
	Nakamoto Satoshi, whatever his name is.
	Which I'm still not convinced he isn't.
	That's another story.
	Yeah, and here's how the phone call went.
	Hey, hey, how you doing?
	And John goes, hey, yeah, great.
	How are you, Max Kaiser?
	Oh, you recognize my voice?
	Yes, I did.
	Okay, that's all.
	Boom.
	And then he hung up.
	Yeah, he hung up.
	Something like that.
	So Tina the Keeper and I went to dinner with Max and Stacey Tuesday evening here in Austin downtown.
	And I learned a lot of interesting things.
	First of all, regarding the fake news, and I didn't know this, but do you know that they don't actually produce the Max Keiser report for Russia Today?
	What's it produced for?
	Well, same thing with Larry King.
	It's produced for the Associated Press, who sell it to Russia Today.
	Hello?
	Oh, that's interesting.
	How can we have the Associated Press participating in fake news and propaganda and state-sponsored something or other?
	Terrorism.
	Uh-huh.
	I thought that was news to me.
	So did they contract with him, or what was the deal?
	Does the Associated Press pay him?
	Yes, the Associated Press pays them to do the show, and then they sell it to RT. The Associated Press does.
	Huh.
	It's crazy.
	They know they're into that sort of syndication.
	That's interesting.
	Well, but moreover, you know, the fact that they're sponsoring state-sponsored propaganda.
	This has to stop.
	This cannot continue.
	I feel bad for Max and Stacey.
	Yeah, another...
	Okay, go on.
	Okay.
	But I think they do an actual podcast for Sputnik, which is, I believe...
	Which is the other one.
	Yeah, which I think is a direct sale.
	I'm not so sure.
	I also learned...
	I get a lot of good news stories from Sputnik.
	Sputnik's great!
	If you remember the clip that we have from The Economist editor, or one of the editors of The Economist, who is just now, you know, the thing has become an insufferable publication, you know, for the elites.
	He says, you know, if we see someone with a resume that says Russia Today or Sputnik, they're not even considered Russia Today.
	Right.
	And as we were talking, I learned that, like myself, Max Keiser is not verified on Twitter.
	And, well, I found this interesting because, you know, I've actually tried.
	I don't want it anymore, but I've tried.
	And he said, oh, no.
	Are you crazy?
	No, no, no.
	Now you have no culpability.
	You're not verified.
	I don't know who tweeted that.
	I have no idea.
	That's probably some fake or some fake account.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Well, it's not like Kaiser tweets himself a lot.
	Yeah, no, but you know what I'm saying.
	Let me see.
	What else did we learn?
	Really nice, though.
	You can tell that they're exactly like the show, actually.
	When you watch him.
	Except that Max is...
	I'm pretty convinced he's on the spectrum somewhere.
	He's on some autistic spectrum.
	And Stacey pretty much talks the whole time.
	Which is great.
	She does on the show too.
	She does all the real talking and then he just goes off.
	Well, and that's what I saw, is that he's kind of like, he's very reserved, kind of in his head.
	I think he's a pretty smart, he's like a macro thinker.
	He understands the macro picture of things happening.
	He has a good take on the scene, yes.
	Yeah, so I like that.
	But then, this is Okay, let's do this show the next day, and we meet at the Hotel San Jose on South Congress, and here's how they do it.
	They have an iPhone 6 Plus with a big adapter and then two cords coming off of it with lav mics, and Stacey walks backwards while she's recording us.
	That's their entire production.
	It's pretty good.
	They think the results are pretty good.
	She walks backwards?
	Is this the podcast or the new show?
	No, this is RT. This is what's on RT. You'll be on RT? Yeah.
	Well, where's the video come from?
	Well, she shot the video on her iPhone 6.
	Wait a minute.
	She's shooting the video on the iPhone.
	Well, how do they do those two shots when they're in their little studio in London or wherever it is?
	Oh, no.
	Well, okay.
	The facilities that they have...
	That's actually why they moved from Paris to London is because of the great facilities that RT make available or rent, I think, in London.
	In fact, Max or Stacey was telling a story about...
	I don't know.
	Maybe it was on MH17. Something happened.
	And in these studio facilities, first Russia Today went in to do all their bits.
	And right after that, Voice of America went in to use the same facilities to do all their bits, which is pretty much...
	The Russia Today facilities?
	I think Russia Today contracts them, and they're also contracted out to others.
	It's probably ITV or something like that, yeah.
	But I thought that was kind of funny, that you get two propaganda outfits.
	One propaganda.
	Okay, who's next?
	Macedonia, you're next.
	You're up on deck!
	Yeah, it was fantastic.
	Anyway, so it's about 12-13 minutes and one take and he just...
	It's interesting because I was expecting him to launch right into the fake news stuff, but he's all hung up on the memes and he's like, oh, the memes really won the election.
	I was a little...
	I didn't expect that.
	Like, well, yeah, you know...
	He really blames everything on memes, I guess, in a way.
	Yeah.
	Was he against Trump?
	Was he a Hillary guy?
	Oh, no.
	Oh, no, no, no, no.
	I don't know if they voted for Trump.
	They definitely don't like Hillary.
	When you talk to Kaiser, he'll go off on, you know, well, you know, this is, the people wanted this, and we got the false prophet Obama, and he's just, woo!
	He's like, okay, he's just, you know, he's half-conspirating.
	He's talking about memes, by the way.
	He's a meme-meister.
	He is, that's why, I think that's why he likes it so much.
	Now, what was cool, though, Did you get any plugs in for the show?
	Of course!
	No, no, it was all about the show.
	All about the show, all about our theory of where does this fake news lead to?
	And I said, well, our hypothesis is obviously licensing.
	Licensing of journalists.
	And he was like, oh yeah, that makes total sense.
	That's exactly where we're going.
	And, you know, then as we were talking more about social networks and how people are divided, and then I said, well, you know, I really follow the writings of the famous Harvard professor, Theodore Kaczynski, and it rolled right by him!
	It rolled right by him!
	It did!
	Yeah, he didn't get it.
	Oh, that's too funny.
	I did tell him later, I said, wow, I can't believe you stopped me on the Unabomber thing.
	He says, what?
	What?
	But he always said, I have heard from people.
	This is actually a pretty interesting read.
	I said, yeah, you should give it a shot.
	The guy went and killed people over it.
	Let me see.
	Was there anything?
	Oh, yeah.
	What else did we have?
	We had...
	Just talking later on, just in general, about the situation in London.
	And the censorship is unbelievable, particularly for them, their show on RT. What?
	Yes.
	Let's start with a premise to begin with, which is, what about their show is so dangerous that anything needs to be censored?
	Yeah.
	I mean, he does give it to the British government and the Bank of Scotland.
	I mean, he ribs of them a lot, but I don't see that it's censored.
	Well, here's the thing.
	When you...
	When there is a perceived violation of some...
	I think it's a little broader than the FCC, but that's their version of the FCC. And what they then do is they send a letter to RT, and by law, it's just like a national security letter.
	You're not allowed to discuss the content of the letter.
	But they've had to do apologies on air, and apparently in the beginning when they first were on RT, they were getting several Ofcom letters a month.
	And so they're restricted.
	Now that I think about it, yeah, but it's mostly, if anything, if he does anything that would be offensive, he will go after...
	Somebody and insult them.
	You know, call them a fat bastard or something.
	I don't feel comfortable giving the exact examples because they were pretty clear about, you know, you can't really talk about stuff because of this.
	That's fine.
	But I'm just saying that's what I notice when I'm watching their show.
	And, yeah, I got to tell you, really nice people.
	Super nice.
	Don't have much more.
	And, you know, it'll be a nice plug for the show.
	Okay, that's all we care about.
	I know.
	I could have just said, hey, we've got a good plug coming up on RT, and I didn't have to say anything else.
	But there you go.
	And they're also interviewing the Seed Man, so that should be funny.
	Oh, that should be good, too.
	So it'll be two in a row.
	A twofer.
	Beautiful.
	And awesome, just to see the crackpots.
	That's kind of...
	They're doing a little bit of a tour.
	They're going around the U.S. trying to...
	Getting a barbecue while they're there, I hope.
	I don't know if they're big food.
	Oh, so I took them to Fix.
	I'm like, my place.
	Yeah, they're in my town.
	I'm going to take them out to a nice dinner.
	I said, hey, this is my treat.
	Fully well knowing that Tina, the keeper, and I will be going to London and we'll be expecting reciprocation.
	Yeah, you'll never hear from them.
	And, you know, so I made my reservation.
	I called the owner, Keith.
	I said, Keith, you know, I got guests coming in.
	So can we have a nice booth near the bar, a little quieter?
	We can talk.
	And he said, got you covered.
	So, you know, I want to be that guy.
	Like, hey, look.
	Yeah, that's the guy you want to be.
	Everyone blows me here at this restaurant.
	And, of course, the obligatory, when we're having a coffee, the owner, Keith, comes by and says, well, I hope you enjoyed everything.
	He didn't bother us during dinner.
	And here's Max's answer.
	Well, let me tell you.
	I wanted a Bloody Mary, but it turns out you have no tomato juice here.
	Well, for some reason, they don't.
	And he got into this big conversation with the owner about, well, do you have horseradish?
	Do you have celery sticks?
	Do you have ice?
	Do you have vodka?
	Ah, you don't have tomato juice.
	And I was a little embarrassed.
	Well, you get what you pay for.
	He didn't have tomato juice.
	It's an abomination.
	I have to agree.
	Is it a full bar?
	Yeah.
	Oh, then they should have tomato juice, for God's sake.
	It was just, yeah.
	It was kind of...
	He reminds me a bit of you, actually, in his direct approach to anything.
	Well, you know, watching around the bush.
	Yeah, well, you know, I agree.
	I agree.
	I've gotten used to it, and I kind of appreciate the stance.
	It's taken me eight or nine years.
	I'm there.
	Well, while we're on it, let me see.
	Oh, man, there's so much to do today.
	Well, let's start with a weather report then, because I want to make sure I'm fair and balanced on this show.
	Okay.
	And we have our...
	Because, you know, I like to play these weather reports, because just to prove the weather guys can't figure it out, how can global climateologists...
	Let's play today's weather report.
	All right, well, we're about to get some rain.
	Let's get in with our chief meteorologist Bill Martin.
	And Bill, you told me during the four that it's significant.
	Yeah, significant rain and not just one or two, not a one and done, but some rain coming on Thursday, Friday, a little more on Sunday, a little more next week.
	So it's going to be kind of on and off.
	We'll get some breaks in there, but rain back in the forecast starting tomorrow afternoon.
	You'll notice the clouds increasing.
	And with those increasing clouds, of course, there comes the chance of some showers and some rain.
	There are the clouds right now.
	That's the system I'm tracking.
	It gets in here late tomorrow afternoon.
	So what that means is by the afternoon, yeah, late afternoon commute, might be a little wet on the ground.
	But what it does mean is Thursday morning's commute is going to be wet.
	It's going to be kind of a little bit windy and pretty wet.
	So Thursday morning's commute right now seems to be the weather headline here.
	We've got rain all day Thursday.
	And then again, a little bit into Friday morning in the mountains.
	We'll see you.
	All right, we go live now to our correspondent, John C. Dvorak, who is at the mudflats in northern Silicon Valley.
	John, what are you learning?
	Well, I'm learning there's mudflats are still there.
	There's no wind, so we can just write that off.
	Okay, we'll scratch off wind.
	Now, it did rain.
	I have to agree.
	It did rain a little bit, but it's not lots of rain by any means.
	It's kind of like missed rain.
	It rained a little bit last night, but as we speak, as this broadcast is going on, which is at 9.29 in the morning where it should be pouring rain, it's not raining.
	Ah, wrong again.
	Well, they were closer than last time.
	But it's a good lead-in to a nice little climate change clip I have here with the one and only Bill Nye, the science guy.
	He's at a conference for...
	The conference is Anti-Man-Made Global Warming, AGW. And he's talking to...
	I think it's a religious guy.
	But he has a number of graphs and charts, and he's showing that climate change has always been here with us, but it doesn't seem like, if you look at the numbers, it's really man-made, but it's always been there, and he gets into this short tat-a-tat with Bill Nye.
	Climate change is the most serious problem facing humankind.
	Really?
	And so by trying to convince young people...
	That climate change is not real is very serious because they're going to have to grow up and deal with it.
	Actually, we're saying climate change is real.
	The Middle Ice Age was a local phenomenon.
	Bill, we're saying climate change is real.
	So is it serious?
	Climate change?
	What you have to do then is say, why have they changed?
	Climates change all the time.
	Let me rephrase it for you.
	Human-caused climate change is very serious.
	Well, there's a lot of debate about that.
	There's a lot of scientists who would disagree with that.
	In fact, we have PhD scientists on our staff that would disagree with that.
	We have other PhD scientists.
	No!
	The scientists and your staff.
	As respectful as I can be, are incompetent.
	Oh, you mean Dr.
	Nathaniel Jensen, who has a PhD from Harvard University?
	Oops.
	He's incompetent?
	From what I've seen on television, he is.
	Tell me, Dr.
	Georgia Purdom, who has a PhD in molecular genetics from a higher state, she's incompetent?
	Certainly seems to be.
	He never gives up.
	Science is in!
	I love it.
	What a douchebag.
	Yeah, I should probably give him a little douche at the same time.
	I like that.
	Well, then maybe, let me see.
	Doesn't agree with me.
	Must be incompetent.
	That's right.
	From what I've seen on TV. I wonder what he said about the 30,000 scientists who signed off on the document saying this is bullcrap.
	I wonder what he said about that when that cropped up.
	Yeah, well, not in this particular piece it didn't crop up.
	Um...
	And, uh, actually I had a, uh, I had something that fit into that as one of, uh, uh, Donald Trump's, uh, was his EPA guy.
	Oh, I love the irony of this EPA guy.
	Yeah.
	Hold on a second.
	Everybody's bent out of shape about him.
	Yeah, and it's, oh, it actually cropped up in, okay, I know where it is here.
	It was a conversation between, what's this guy, you know, he's actually not bad these days.
	What's his name?
	Tucker, Tucker Carlson.
	He has a show on CNN. Yeah, I've noticed this too.
	Once you get rid of the bow tie, you seem to have improved.
	And this was in relation to...
	I thought this was very funny, and no agenda producers were probably chuckling themselves.
	Donald Trump is named Person of the Year by Time Magazine, and the first thing that everyone comes out and says is, well, yeah, that makes sense, because so was Hitler!
	Like, wow.
	Wow.
	We've been using this exact same thing for years in reverse by saying, hey, you know, how great is it?
	You know, we got Obama on the cover of Time magazine.
	I don't know.
	Hitler was on it, too.
	You know, but never like this.
	And so now it's, well, Time magazine is right.
	He's Hitler.
	So what kind of conversation?
	I mean, describe the discussion that you were trying to invoke by comparing Trump to Hitler.
	I think that it's very important that we are critical, that we do not normalize or sanitize the rhetoric or actions...
	Now, by the way, this is fake news.
	Just wait.
	...of Donald Trump or the ghastly appointees to his new administration.
	Ghastly!
	Ghastly appointees.
	It gets better every day.
	Ghastly, I tell you.
	The ghastly appointees to his new administration.
	And I want people to remain vigilant.
	I want people to realize that none of this is normal.
	None of the hate speech, the hate crimes that are spiking in the United States.
	And we, as the American people, have to hold our president-elect accountable.
	And I would like to point out that the Southern Poverty Law Center came out with a report, which part of this is based on, that talked about hate crimes that have occurred against LGBT community, that talked about hate crimes that have occurred against LGBT That's never happened before.
	Against African Americans.
	Yeah, the problem with the report, because they actually asked, the way they did the survey, is they asked educators, teachers and professors, are you seeing this at your educational facility?
	And I believe there was about 40% said, yeah, we got this going on.
	Unfortunately, Southern Poverty Law Center, although asked several times, finally had to come out and say, well, yeah, no, we didn't put the 20% increased hate crime against white kids in the report.
	Oops.
	It just shows you how biased they are.
	They just hid that.
	They just didn't put it in the report until pressured.
	They hate the white man.
	They do.
	Okay, here we go.
	Back to the clip.
	Okay, so you've made a lot of pretty general statements.
	And by the way, I don't think there's any danger of Trump going uncriticized during his term as president.
	Well, I think it's something like hearing the way that the media...
	Oh, please.
	You just compared him to Hitler now.
	So, I mean, clearly there's, you know, a vigorous conversation about Trump underway, and you're part of it.
	But you said his ghastly appointees.
	Give me an example.
	Today, you're talking about appointing a head of the EPA, someone who has sued the EPA on behalf of the coal industry and the coal lobby.
	Now he's going to walk her right into the trap.
	You're talking about putting a known anti-Semite...
	Who is that?
	Pruitt, the Attorney General Pruitt.
	And what was his suit about, do you know?
	Trap.
	Yeah, he was suing on behalf of what the New York Times actually...
	You can just see a la-di-da-di-da-di-da.
	He's asking me questions.
	...called a secretive alliance between energy firms, between state prosecutors, where he is attorney general, and between oil and gas companies.
	Let me just say this.
	It doesn't sound like you know a ton about this, but he was one of 28 attorneys general.
	So the majority of states sued the Obama administration over its environmental regulations.
	So you can't just say he was acting on behalf of oil and gas companies.
	the majority of states were involved in that suit.
	He actually appropriated text out of a letter written by the oil and gas companies as his own.
	Right.
	So what about that?
	Did you disagree?
	In other words, what you're doing here is you're quoting out of context of New York Times piece that says because he has the same views as an oil and gas company that they're illegitimate, but you're not actually making the case against him.
	Oh, my God.
	Fake news.
	There you go.
	Fake news.
	She's just filled with fake news.
	Fake news.
	Fake news.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Pretty interesting, this transition.
	Well, while you're on the topic of mentioning the...
	Appointees.
	The kids, the fake news, the whole thing.
	Yeah.
	There's a very interesting clip I picked up.
	It says yesterday was Pearl Harbor Day.
	Yes, December.
	No, it was the day before.
	December 6th.
	Okay, the day before.
	Yeah.
	By the way, it's a day that'll live in infamy.
	It'll probably live in infamy, but it won't live in history, in the history books, because apparently none of the kids know much about it.
	Oh, I think they know very little about it.
	They know nothing about it.
	What they know is that George Takei was thrown in prison.
	So we have a clip of, this is, somebody was on one of the, I think it was one of the news shows, one of the talk shows, and they were just talking about visiting, making a big point to visit the memorial in Arizona, an anniversary of some sort, and they wanted to bring the whole family and do some stuff, and this is kind of the end of his little discussion of, I think this may have been also on Tucker Carlson, but play the Pearl Harbor anecdote.
	To see some veterans who are signing books, to see the big tribute, it's a thriving military port, I get it, and base, but it also is a tribute to those who gave their lives that day.
	So we got on the boat and we go out there with the After seeing the movie, the competency movie, to let everybody know what you're back to see, we go to see the USS Arizona, and after I saw the great job the tour guide did and how fundamental and rudimentary the movie was, I said, listen, when people come, when Americans come to see this, do they usually ask questions as if they know what's going on or don't?
	And they said, most of the young people have no idea what happened and who won the war and who was on what side.
	And these are the state troopers that do this on a regular basis.
	They give the tours.
	And I was just struck by that.
	What do they teach these kids in school?
	Well, I think they teach them...
	Gender politics?
	I have no idea.
	I mean, I remember when my kids were going to a local school here, and we were in the Bay Area, where it's a very liberal...
	In fact, my town is very Democrat.
	And he came back...
	You don't say.
	He came back one day, I think it was in the third grade or something, and he's talking about how...
	One kid was talking about how...
	Columbus was a slaver.
	Yes, of course.
	They had the impression that he was one of the guys that was driving slave trade.
	We can't celebrate Columbus Day anymore because he was a bigot.
	Well, not on the West Coast you can't.
	A xenophobe.
	A xenophobe slaver.
	And the other kid had some other crazy notion that was...
	Something about Martin Luther King freeing the slaves or something like that.
	Oh, great.
	Seriously.
	And then the other one, I remember seeing some local event and there was somebody claiming that Harriet Tubman freed the slaves.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's very common, by the way, that belief.
	Well, I have two clips for millennials.
	I have both kind of short.
	And I have a question about this first one.
	This is BBC World News, and this is a protester.
	You know, these protests are worldwide now.
	We've got it happening.
	Black Lives Matter is also in Canada.
	We've got what they call the precious snowflakes, the millennials, the butthurt.
	They're everywhere.
	So, too, in the UK. I think this might be an American interview.
	I don't know if this...
	This particular young woman was in the UK or not, but she explains, and I've heard this a lot, particularly from young LGBT youth in America, how afraid they are.
	I mean, like, really afraid of the new administration.
	I'm very scared.
	Yeah.
	I'm very scared.
	As an LGBT person, I am very scared of a Trump-Pence administration.
	I'm very afraid of the rights that we've worked so hard for to be taken away, and I'm worried that my safety will be threatened, that I won't be able to go across the country like I want to do.
	What makes me very afraid, honestly, more so than Donald Trump is Pence, his vice president.
	He has been staunchly anti-LGBT from day one.
	They don't care.
	They don't care.
	They're not a president for all people.
	They do not care about LGBT people.
	I can't accept a bigot.
	I can't.
	That's why I protest.
	Now I have a question for you, because I've heard this several times, and it kind of glosses over you, kind of like one of those terms such as comprehensive immigration reform.
	I ask you, John, what exactly are these LGBT rights that she fought so hard for?
	What rights are specific to LGBT rights?
	Well, before you go on, I'm going to attempt to not answer that question, but first I want to mention something.
	Is she a lesbian?
	Yes.
	Why doesn't she say that?
	She's not LGBTQ. Well, quite honestly, I don't know if she's a lesbian.
	I don't know how she identifies, but just looking at the video.
	She could be bi.
	Well, that's the B. Well, why would you say I'm LGBT? It's like I'm a man, woman, girl, boy.
	It's like you can't be all these things.
	You're one in the group.
	Right.
	Just like comprehensive immigration reform also means nothing.
	So she's not LGBTQ. She's whatever she is.
	Well, I think she...
	LGBTQ is the entire world of people.
	Let me just listen to how she identifies herself again.
	I'm very scared.
	I'm very scared.
	As an LGBT person...
	There you go.
	LGBT person.
	She's an LGBT person.
	Shut up!
	You can't question that.
	You can't question that.
	Don't question it.
	So I've looked into this.
	Hey, are there any special rights that I could get if I said I'm B or L or G or T or Q? Then here they are.
	It's really only two things.
	Okay.
	Decriminalization.
	And this is from...
	They're not going to recriminalize, so what are they worried about?
	Well, I'll read the little blurb here.
	And this is from...
	Actually, I got this from Amnesty International, but ACLU pretty much has the same list.
	People detained or imprisoned solely because of their homosexuality.
	Now, I have a hard time believing Mike Pence is going to bring that in.
	Are you gay?
	Log him up.
	I don't think so.
	Including those...
	What?
	What?
	I think they're almost being promoted that concept.
	I think this community is being promoted that concept.
	Yes.
	Okay, so including those individuals prosecuted for having sex in circumstances which would not be criminal for heterosexuals.
	Okay, fair point.
	Although, let me say that there are laws in states in the United States that forbid all kinds of heterosexual acts.
	Yes, this is true.
	I believe buggery is still illegal in Georgia.
	I could be wrong.
	Yeah.
	Amnesty International calls for the decriminalization of homosexuality where such legislation remains.
	Okay, so you have a little bit of a point, but it's kind of for everybody has the same issues.
	And then the second, these are the only two, is marriage equality.
	That's the big LGBT rights that they've fought so hard for.
	And the marriage thing, I don't think that should be a law at all.
	That shouldn't be the government's business at all, but okay.
	And then they just give a couple of examples of human rights abuses based on sexual orientation.
	Execution by the state.
	Well, if Pence did that, I think I would take issue with it.
	Denial of employment, housing, or health services.
	That's pretty much not happening in the United States.
	Loss of custody of children.
	I don't know what Child Protective Services are doing.
	Denial of asylum, rape and otherwise torture, threats for campaigning for LGBT human rights, and regular subjection to verbal abuse.
	Well, I want that right, too.
	I get abused verbally all the time.
	Yeah.
	So, you know.
	So what's she afraid of?
	Whoever did the interview should ask specifically.
	Although then you'd say, well, you're just being a dick, you know, if you do that.
	Oh, yeah.
	But you don't know?
	Yeah.
	I did find something, and this is clippable for everybody who has millennials in their life.
	This is a positive note.
	Rabbi Dr.
	Abraham Tversky explaining in a reverse way what's wrong with our millennials today, why the children are in trouble, and I think this is a very good message to them.
	There's something I want to tell you about The stress and how we have to look at stress.
	He's talking about stress.
	Okay.
	And I think it's an important thing because many people have told me from my lectures it's the one thing they remember.
	Okay.
	I was sent in to the dentist's office and looked at an article that said, how do lobsters grow?
	I don't care how lobsters grow.
	But I was interested in it.
	And it points out that a lobster is a soft, mushy animal that lives inside of a rigid shell.
	That rigid shell does not expand.
	Well, how can the lobster grow?
	Well, as the lobster grows, that shell becomes very confining.
	And the lobster feels itself under pressure and uncomfortable.
	It goes under a rock formation to protect itself from predatory fish, casts off the shell, and produces a new one.
	Well, eventually, that shell becomes very uncomfortable as it grows, right?
	Back under the rocks.
	Good.
	And the lobster repeats this numerous times.
	The stimulus for the lobster to be able to grow is that it feels uncomfortable.
	Now, if lobsters had doctors, they would never grow.
	Because as soon as the lobster feels uncomfortable, goes to the doctor, gets a Valium, gets a Percocet, feels fine.
	Never kicks off himself.
	So I think that what we have to realize is that we have to realize that times of stress are also times that are signals for growth.
	And if we use adversity properly, we can grow through adversity.
	Now, there you go.
	Yeah, that's a good message.
	A little bit of uplifting news for everybody.
	A little corny.
	I do want to stay with fake news, if you don't mind.
	I love it.
	Yes.
	Brian Williams said one of the best things I've ever heard him say the other day.
	Oops, sorry.
	Well, I might as well play the jingle while we're at it.
	Sorry.
	And they're going to make news.
	Fake news.
	We have a million of them.
	I'm sorry?
	We have a million of them.
	A million of them.
	As we talked about here last night, fake news played a role in this election and continues to find a wide audience.
	I don't know.
	This struck me as really funny.
	It continues to get a wide audience.
	Fake news is good.
	Or should we say, I thought about this.
	People don't read.
	We can agree on this.
	People don't read.
	What do people read?
	Headlines.
	Headlines.
	I assert that headlines written by mainstream publications meant as clickbait.
	Always.
	Headlines are meant for you to buy the paper, click the link.
	They are just as fake often as the actual stories that are fake.
	No, the headlines can be very misleading.
	Very common.
	In fact, it's so common that it's brought up in J school quite a bit about you're not supposed to do it.
	And the only reason you bring something like that up is because people are doing it all the time.
	But headlines are always done by a separate department, right?
	Not always.
	The way it generally works.
	It depends.
	Generally speaking, the editors write the headlines.
	And there's usually one or two good headline writers, and they do most of them.
	But you always write a headline, generally speaking, for your article.
	And if you have any skills at all, you should be able to get your headline in a certain percentage of the time.
	Not always, and probably not most of the time, but sometimes you can.
	Let me ask you.
	The false promises of the internet.
	Is that your headline?
	False promises of the internet.
	You wrote it.
	I think it might have been.
	I think it might have been my head.
	Okay, all right.
	Just asking.
	On the Morning Joes, they came up with a topic about fake news and how we should handle that.
	Because, of course, even though we like them, we think they're very anti-MSNBC while being on it, they're still all in on this.
	It's time for these isolated know-it-alls in the Silicon Valley at Google and Facebook.
	To, like, get this stuff together.
	I like this, by the way.
	I like the war between mainstream media, mainly television news, and Silicon Valley.
	I like this is happening.
	Good luck with that one.
	It's still great.
	I like that it's happening.
	It's time for these isolated know-it-alls in the Silicon Valley at Google and Facebook to, like, get this stuff together on things like this.
	They have to.
	I mean, First Amendment, we all live within the First Amendment.
	We don't want to tamper with the First Amendment, but there's something askew here that has to be looked at.
	Are you mumbling?
	I'm mumbling, sorry.
	I'll stop mumbling.
	Sounds like the guy in there.
	I'm like, who the hell is mumbling in the background?
	Mika, stop mumbling!
	It's gone in cycles, this misinformation.
	It used to be telephone calls.
	The night before, I remember, Jeb Bush lost to Lawton Childs because Lawton Childs called hundreds of thousands of people.
	Yeah, this is rarely discussed.
	I found this to be quite interesting.
	And that used to be the news.
	That used to be the way that elections were, you know, the people worked on elections, is making hundreds or thousands of calls, telephone calls, of course, stuff in the mail, and then as Joe will say here, I think, emails.
	I think Jeb Bush was going to take away their Social Security.
	Of course, you can't do that as governor.
	He just made it up.
	And then it was emails.
	People would send around the most horrific emails.
	And now we're to this stage.
	And you're right.
	It's hard to stop these phone calls the night before an election.
	It's hard to stop the emails.
	It's not hard to stop this fake news.
	No.
	If you're Google or if you're Facebook.
	One second.
	Now these guys are all in, John.
	It's not hard to stop.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	What they're saying is that the fake news thing is a, it's hard to stop the fake news in the emails and it's hard to stop the fake news here and the fake news there.
	What makes any fake news more or less hard to stop?
	Here's what I'm thinking as I hear this.
	They're bitching about the olden days when people would make a phone call and say, hey, did you know that guy was a pedophile?
	You know, he's a horrible person.
	Don't vote for him.
	Vote for this other guy.
	And that is hard to stop.
	But it's an element of the system.
	But this other one, this fake news, which comes from Sputnik or whatever, is easy to stop.
	Is that what they're trying to say when it's not easy to stop either?
	And when most of the fake news is coming from the mainstream?
	Well, the thing that they're skipping, because, yeah, I think what they're saying is, well, it's not hard to stop fake news in a closed-off environment, the so-called walled garden of a Facebook, And I believe they're just automatically implying that the fake news is tagged by someone.
	And I'm telling you, Max Keiser's right.
	Not being verified is going to be very interesting.
	I believe that anything I post in the near future on Twitter or Facebook, where I'm also not verified, will be censored or shadow banned or something.
	That's how they're going to do it.
	I mean, that's the only mechanism they have.
	Verified journalists.
	They're journalists with 500 followers on Twitter, and they're verified.
	I know, I've seen that.
	Every once in a while I go look at some, who's this idiot?
	And then I look at somebody working for one of the big papers, and it's like, they're, you know, big blowhards, and they've got 443 followers.
	And they're verified.
	I guarantee you, go on Twitter right now.
	And look up the Twitter handle of your weather guy who just gave you a false report.
	Which I would say is fake news!
	I bet you he's verified.
	I'm sure he is.
	That's how this goes.
	Okay, so that's what I think they are.
	That's how I believe they are thinking.
	...the night before an election.
	It's hard to stop the emails.
	It's not hard to stop this fake news.
	No.
	If you're Google or if you're Facebook.
	Hard if you're Twitter.
	Yeah.
	So this pizzeria story, I won't dignify it by explaining what it is.
	Now, be quiet for a second and listen, because this is...
	I'm not saying anything.
	It's just them.
	You're not?
	Okay.
	So the link that is about to be made, and this is exactly what was supposed to happen, and I do want to get into this a little today, they are going to say, oh, well, that's just like Pizzagate.
	This fake news Pizzagate, which is now being used...
	To show the danger of fake news.
	And because of all the great sleuthing and investigative work, you will see we've now...
	Actually, I'm kind of happy because we are now accelerating the licensing or whatever measures will come in place.
	Yeah, well, like, so this pizzeria story, I won't dignify it by explaining what the conspiracy is, but people saw in the leaked Podesta emails, they hallucinated words meaning something other than what they appeared to mean about some very nefarious thing.
	In other words, they took a pretty innocuous email and thought the words inside that email are code for what's actually happening inside this.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh my God!
	And it has real-world implications.
	Again, when a guy walks in because he thinks he's saving children in a pizzeria with an AR-15 and fires off a round where families are eating, that's real-world stuff.
	That's not just stuff floating around the internet.
	And one of the most shocking things to me is you actually have people with college degrees who read these fake news stories.
	Nice.
	And these conspiracy theories.
	And then call all of us up.
	Is this true?
	Is that true?
	You know, after about the 20th, I'm like, no!
	Stop!
	Stop the tape.
	After the 20th?
	So in other words, he takes the calls and he says, yeah, I guess.
	Yeah, I guess.
	And then after the 20th, he says, no, stop.
	Does it take 20 calls before they get a clue that maybe there's a story they should do?
	I'm just asking.
	No, they will not.
	Well, I have to...
	Or it's just going to be three people.
	It sounds like three.
	Sitting around a table gassing.
	Oh, they hallucinated this.
	What do they hallucinate?
	They're taking drugs?
	I mean, it sounds like this is worse than...
	Never mind.
	Is this true?
	And young people don't differentiate.
	Is that true?
	You know, after about the 20th, I'm like, no!
	Stop!
	You think the Flynn's are doing it knowingly?
	I know who you're talking about.
	Oh, stop.
	Do I think the Flynn's are doing what?
	When they retweet this stuff, do they know it's not true and they're just trying to stir up trouble?
	I think either way is really disturbing.
	All right, and I have a couple things to say about Pizzagate.
	First of all, this is now spreading, and I thought long and hard about this.
	It was the keeper who sent me this link yesterday.
	I'm like, holy shit.
	So some YouTuber in Austin...
	Was tipped off through, I guess it's VOTE now, VOAT, that have taken over the closed-down Reddit on Pizzagate.
	And that's where, you know, the investigation continues.
	Oh, yes.
	And I have to say, when I was a kid, oh man, I'm getting to the days where I'm going to say it.
	You know, kids, young people, but kids have investigative spirits.
	And I recall after reading, you know, the Hardy Boys probably listened.
	I think I read a lot of the Nancy Drew stories, too, because my sister had Nancy Drew.
	And so, you know, you go out with a pad and paper, and you walk around the neighborhood, and you write down license plates.
	Okay, that car's there.
	I never did this.
	Well, I did.
	I think lots of kids have done this.
	So, one of these YouTubers here in Austin decides that, oh my gosh, I see all the horrible symbolism at Eastside Pies here in Austin, which is a pizzeria.
	Eastside Pies, oh my goodness, ESP. Oh, oh, this is weird.
	This is kooky.
	I gotta play a little bit of his investigative report, John.
	I mean, I'll just tell you what I saw.
	I mean, nothing against it.
	Nothing against this if it's how you it, but, you know, this is how you are.
	But the guy who took my order had monster holes in his ears from his gauges.
	Oh, no!
	The people had piercings, and the woman who I think reheated my pizza had blue hair.
	And they just all looked at me kind of funny.
	And I don't know why.
	Ah, they're pedophiles!
	I went in there.
	I didn't expect to have a weird experience, folks, but I'm telling you, the music, the stuff on the wall.
	Oh, and then just creepy.
	The absolute coup de gras.
	The coup de gras.
	Coup de gras.
	I'm kidding you not.
	I'm kidding you not.
	What kind of English is that?
	I'm surprised you didn't say the old Jack Parr phrase.
	I kid you not.
	That's probably what he meant to say, but I'm kidding you not is bad.
	Absolute coup de gras.
	I'm kidding you not, folks.
	I'm kidding you not.
	Folks, you said it twice.
	There were kids playing dominoes at the pizza place.
	Nah, they must be sex slaves!
	Right here, in the back, I was sitting right here at the edge of this, like, table, and then right here, and it's all like...
	Stop.
	Stop!
	This guy, I'm going to throw this out there.
	You can say I'm fully crap.
	This is a satire.
	No, it's not a satire.
	It's absolutely not a satire.
	It sounds every bit...
	It's not.
	Come on.
	No, it's not.
	John, it's not.
	It's a hell of a lot less satire than that stupid video of those two morons with the fake baby you sent me.
	So no, it's not satire.
	It's like table, and then right here, and it's all like one big table.
	It's a weird thing to begin with.
	Weird!
	And then right here, there was a woman and two kids.
	Creepy!
	First, she was reading a story, and they were both kind of staring at me weird.
	I'm not going to lie.
	It didn't look like it was their mom, either.
	Oh, this is probably their handler.
	And then, she finishes reading the story, and both of the kids talk about how they want to play dominoes.
	And they start playing dominoes, and she's like, yeah, we'll play dominoes.
	Oh!
	Code.
	And they started playing dominoes.
	That's code.
	As if it wasn't weird enough that I saw satanic symbols all over the wall.
	Illuminati symbols all over the wall.
	Some weird clock next to some weird heart.
	Creepy.
	And then a paddy-locked iron, like, steel curtain door.
	And then a sex artwork show as well on the wall.
	I'm telling you, American pizza is just pedophilia.
	The whole pizza industry.
	I'm surprised that Roundtable hasn't, the stock hasn't dropped.
	The last honest pizza, by the way.
	I want to say something.
	Because it suddenly hit me last night.
	I'm like, ah, now I know.
	Now I know.
	Having investigated for over a decade with great vigor, John, back me up.
	In fact, when it comes to the Catholic Church, at a certain point on this show or outside of this, you said, man, back off a little.
	Back off.
	Remember?
	Dracula.
	You said back off a little because it was every show.
	And it was a huge scandal, which, of course, we don't talk about anymore.
	Now, so we had that.
	We had Dutroux in Belgium.
	We had the boys' orphanage.
	Is it Jersey or white?
	I think it's Jersey.
	It's not white.
	It's Jersey.
	We had, and it's true in Belgium, you know, it was horrible.
	We had the Rolodex files.
	We have Joris Demink in the Netherlands, which I got fired and radio station burned out.
	I have investigated these things with great vigor.
	Yeah, this is true.
	What is missing from Pizzagate is one thing.
	Any evidence?
	Victims.
	No, victims.
	They're victims, right?
	They're killing them, Adam.
	Unless they're killing every single one of them, every single one, and putting them in the holes in the ground that we've seen in the Instagram feed.
	I mean, Jimmy Saville.
	There were victims.
	Now we have the football players in the UK. Victims coming forward.
	They do True Trace in Belgium.
	They had kids in cages!
	They released children from cages.
	So there are really true...
	Evil things happening, but this has no victims.
	Not yet.
	Not even a suggested victim.
	This is problematic, believe me.
	Now, I do want to say...
	Let me see, I have three clips here.
	Missing the code, Adam.
	Yeah, I'm missing the dominoes code.
	Dominoes!
	Yeah, I missed the code.
	Sure, I got it.
	By the way, that's a great game.
	Dominoes.
	So all these abused kids have been killed.
	Now...
	I'm absolutely convinced that this is going on in government.
	You only have to look at Boys Town.
	Actually, the name of the documentary is Conspiracy of Silence.
	And I put the link to the YouTube video for it in the show notes.
	Again, Conspiracy of Silence.
	You need to see this.
	This is about George H.W. Bush.
	And the type of crap that was going on during his administration.
	But again, with victims, some of these are written books.
	I mean, there's tons and tons and tons of people who have come forward about this.
	The one thing I will say about specifically Bill Clinton is, and if you want to do some investigative work, I would suggest looking into Jeffrey Epstein, who is a convicted child molester.
	A 15-year-old, so under statutory age, I'm just saying, he is convicted of that crime.
	And he has what is called the Lolita Express, his airplane, which there's all kinds of...
	And you look into the design of that airplane, and yes, there's some documentation that there's lots of bedrooms.
	And then he has his island, and the flight manifest shows that Bill Clinton has accompanied him to his house and island on the so-called Lolita Express multiple times, sometimes without his secret security detail.
	So if you want to go and investigate something, do that.
	Go to Jeffrey Epstein's house and go and look.
	I mean, that's where you're going to find something.
	Talk to victims of that crime.
	Now, that is something very real.
	But the way it came up was, let me see what this is.
	Oh, it came up in a discussion on CNN about Mike Pence's son and Mike Pence.
	So Pence Jr., who has now been removed from the campaign, was pretty much saying, look at Pizzagate.
	It was like he was on Reddit half the time and then tweeting.
	And so he's been removed.
	Not Pence.
	Flynn.
	Flynn.
	I'm sorry.
	Flynn.
	National Security Advisor to be.
	And then Flynn also tweeted something out in regard to Epstein and Lolita Island.
	And there is something here.
	There is a possible story here.
	But man, when you get...
	So it's Kayleigh McEnany, the blonde Republican who's always on CNN, who I think has really...
	She's earned her...
	Or keep.
	Aaron Burnett.
	This is the show that it's on.
	By the way, is it just me or is Aaron Burnett starting to look a lot like Boy George?
	I haven't noticed this.
	Take a look.
	I watched it the other day.
	I didn't notice this.
	Take a look.
	You should take a look.
	The boy George has a very feminine face, yeah, it's possible.
	Let's have a listen here.
	Once a fake news story is out...
	Sorry, this one.
	But with the National Security Advisor actually tweeting these types of conspiracy theories, it leads to questioning his judgment and whether or not it was a joke.
	It should be made clear if he thought it was a joke.
	But people take this...
	When people in power say things on Twitter accounts, it gets taken very seriously.
	Let me just play this in a different order.
	I'm going to play this...
	Let me see if this is...
	Here we go.
	Fake news!
	Okay, this is the back...
	I'm sorry, I should have done this first.
	I have a backgrounder on the fake news, according to CNN, which I think is kind of important to listen to.
	This is that Brian Schmelter guy, what's his name, who does the media show on CNN? Yeah.
	Whatever his name is.
	Okay, listen to this backgrounder first.
	Fake news, real gunfire.
	A North Carolina man arrested in a D.C. pizza shop after brandishing a gun, telling police he was there to investigate a conspiracy theory called Pizzagate.
	One of the hosts runs up and is like, did you see that guy?
	He had a big gun.
	We actually thought initially that he was a staff member because he was walking straight for that back room.
	The staff member kind of looked at me and indicated that this was a gunman.
	Edgar Welch appearing in court this afternoon.
	According to police, Welch said that he had read online that the Comet Ping Pong Restaurant was harboring child sex slaves and that he wanted to see for himself if they were there.
	The suspect said he was armed to help rescue them.
	The accusation came from this unhinged story that originated online days before the election, saying that Hillary Clinton and her campaign chairman John Podesta were operating a child sex ring.
	The lie took root in the digital swamps of Twitter and far right-wing websites.
	We're not covering Pizzagate enough, even though we covered it every day, to expose the Satanism and the occult and the code words for pedophilia.
	October 30th, a Clinton-hating, Trump-loving Twitterer claimed a police source said Clinton was at the center of a pedophilia ring.
	Others latched onto this, seemingly hoping it was true.
	Which, by the way, is not at all what was said, but that's just the fake news take on it.
	Scouring dark corners of the web for possible clues.
	This is how conspiracy theories are threaded together, lie by lie.
	Eventually a name stuck, Pizzagate, and the believers started harassing the owner of the pizza place.
	We've received many, many, many calls, but really they're from around the world, so we didn't expect anyone to come.
	On Sunday, the suspect fired his weapon.
	No one was hurt.
	With detectives still on the scene in D.C., Pizzagate believers were already claiming that this real development was just part of a cover-up.
	The media is claiming that this is because of Pizzagate.
	This is very dangerous fake news.
	Anybody claiming that the gunman today at Comet Pizza had anything to do with Pizzagate?
	Okay.
	So the whole idea, as I said earlier, is to take Pizzagate and show how dangerous fake news can be.
	Now the conversation, conversation with Kayleigh McEnany and the Bryan guy, and then some Democratic woman and Burnett.
	But with the National Security Advisor actually tweeting these types of conspiracy theories, it leads to questioning his judgment and whether or not it was a joke.
	It should be made clear if he thought it was a joke.
	But people take this, and when people in power say things on Twitter accounts, it gets taken very seriously.
	So we certainly need to be holding our leaders accountable.
	Erin, I do think it's important, though, that Mike Flynn Sr.
	was actually tweeting about something entirely different.
	It wasn't Pizzagate.
	But it was another child sex ring scandal conspiracy.
	But it was not.
	But hold on, Naira.
	Let me point out, though, what he was suggesting actually had some basis in truth.
	There's a mandate.
	Are you done?
	You don't want to listen?
	No, I'm listening.
	Oh, because it kind of killed the whole audio when you do that.
	Oh, sorry.
	...actually had some basis in truth.
	There's a man named Jeffrey S. Epstein who was convicted of child pornography.
	Bill Clinton took several flights with this individual, and there were some real questions as to why these flights were not on the books.
	What happened on these flights?
	Are we really going to do this?
	You hear this guy, are we really going to do this?
	Really?
	Really?
	We're really going to do this?
	We're going to talk about this?
	Well, this is actually something you should be talking about.
	Yeah.
	As to why these flights were not on the books.
	What happened on these flights?
	Are we really going to do this?
	Are we really going to go down these fake rabbit holes?
	They're two separate things.
	Again, trying to parse all of this information about this connection with that connection, This is exactly how conspiracies start.
	And this is exactly the type of logic and reasoning that we need to all be working against and start working with facts.
	I mean, this is a post-fact universe that we're working in.
	Post-fact universe.
	Yeah, well, and now we continue.
	Which actually gets into...
	Listen to this woman.
	What she's saying, again, which is, according to mainstream media, true, but we know is false and therefore can be classified as fake news.
	Kayleigh, should Trump bear some responsibility himself to say, enough, enough, I don't believe...
	Even in private, to tell these people, stop with this.
	I don't want to see a tweet like this.
	I don't want to see these things.
	They're lies and they're hateful.
	Doesn't he bear some of that responsibility when some of this is coming from people who are in his inner circle?
	Does President Obama have the responsibility to say, I disavow the 9-11 truthers?
	No, because he doesn't have to go around disavowing every single conspiracy theory because they're fringe, left-wing people.
	And Naira, your party has gone around with false, false, false narratives of Trump is a racist, Trump is a xenophobe, with no basis in truth.
	So we want to talk about conspiracy theories and out there, outlandish, gossip sort of stories.
	Let's talk about...
	Your party's responsible for it.
	Sure, let's talk about what happened actually just in my neighborhood.
	So Comet Pizza is only a couple blocks away from me, so this is very personal.
	But actually a few blocks in the other direction, you had, what, two weeks ago, a bunch of white supremacists who held an event and said, Heil Trump.
	Hold on a second.
	It was not a bunch of white supremacists who said, Heil Trump.
	It was the NPI and a couple people said, Hail Trump!
	Not Heil!
	Hail!
	Fact check false white supremacists who held an event and said, Heil Trump!
	Now this is actually in Trump's new backyard, not something he's disavowed that's even happened in his own neighborhood.
	Usually when there are gun shootings in where a president or president-elect is, there is some sort of statement or some kind of denouncement of that or any kind of horrific attack.
	So we haven't seen that.
	We haven't seen any Anytime the KKK endorsed him, or David Duke, or any of these white supremacists were advocating on his behalf, he never said, I disassociate myself with those people.
	That's so, hardly a disconnect to say that by, when he has people who are supporting him actively and campaigning for him, if he doesn't disavow them, it seems like they are part of me.
	So again, he hasn't disavowed, he hasn't disavowed, he hasn't disavowed, he hasn't disavowed.
	That clip was too long.
	Yeah, two more clips.
	I think you'll find this interesting.
	So, I do want to say that this guy who went in and discharged around the reporting on it...
	Just gotta be loud.
	Which some people said they never even heard it because he had a suppressor.
	Sure.
	But the way it went down, and this guy is an actor, he has an IMDB page, the way it went down is not at all the way any type of gun brandishing event happens in Washington, D.C. No way!
	The fact the guy's alive is already telling us this is fishy.
	When you walk into any place in Washington, D.C. with an AR-15, yeah, no.
	So you're finally getting to the point, which is this is bullcrap.
	Well, it is now being...
	Staged.
	No, first of all, Pizzagate is bullcrap because it's the wrong investigation.
	There's no victims.
	Every other case had victims, including Saville and everybody.
	You made the point.
	Okay, thank you.
	This, yes, I feel that this was bullcrap and it's being used to bring in the idea that fake news is dangerous in multiple ways.
	Now you're getting something.
	Now here are the next clips from NPR. And get ready for this.
	Legal recourse against fake news.
	This is coming.
	Once a fake news story is out there and the harm has been done, what can a person do about it?
	Well, to help us answer that question...
	And by the way, you should have a little faith in me after nine years.
	I'll get around to a point.
	No.
	Banging the thunder, telling me the clip's too long.
	No, I'm just saying you're usually better, your stuff is better when the point is made, and then you pound on it.
	You made me listen to that very long clip.
	Which didn't really make the point.
	I think the clips coming up probably do.
	Once a fake news story is out there and the harm has been done, what can a person do about it?
	Well, to help us answer that question is Derrigan Silver.
	He teaches media, First Amendment, and Internet law at the University of Denver.
	Welcome to the program.
	I love Internet law.
	I could get a degree in Internet law, couldn't I? No.
	So, to begin, what legal action can someone take if they've been harmed professionally or economically by being the subject of a fake news story?
	Where can they start?
	So in most of these situations, the person who's been harmed is going to bring a lawsuit that we call a tort.
	Now, a tort is a non-contractual harm between two private individuals.
	It's a civil lawsuit where you're alleging that one person harmed another.
	The most famous tort that most people know about is the McDonald's hot coffee tort.
	Now, this is the famous lawsuit where the woman got a lot of hot coffee from McDonald's and got horribly burned by it and then sued the fast food chain for damages caused by the hot coffee.
	So anytime one private individual harms another private individual, you can bring a lawsuit for a tort.
	So one of those torts that people can have advantage of is called defamation.
	Defamation is a tort that alleges that a communication damaged your reputation.
	And so when somebody decides, I have been harmed, right, by being the subject of such a story, who do they try to hold accountable?
	Well, they can hold accountable anybody who has communicated the defamatory statement to anybody else.
	That includes the person who originated the defamatory statement.
	But under something called the republication rule, it also includes anybody who repeated the defamatory statement.
	Now, simply retweeting a defamatory statement is probably not going to be enough to qualify for republication.
	But passing on information that you heard from somebody else certainly is republication.
	So you have some cases coming out of Texas, for example, where hundreds and hundreds of people were adding to a posting that had more and more and more defamatory contents.
	And if you can track those people down, if you can find out those identities, then yes, you can sue every single person who sort of adds to that defamatory statement or repeats that defamatory statement.
	That sounds like an expensive proposition, though, right, for the average person?
	Absolutely.
	And that's one of the problems with defamation law is once the information is out there, you know, is monetary damages really what they want to recover?
	And should they have to be able to pay lawyers for $500 an hour in order to recover their good name from a story that is clearly made up and clearly fictitious and clearly has no basis in reality at all?
	Now, what I found interesting, and there's one wind-up kicker to this, we've talked about tort laws on the show many times in the past, in particular as regards to, is it medical profession?
	Well, that's where most of this takes place.
	That's what they keep talking about, tort reform.
	Now, there's a couple things here before you go to the last clip.
	One is the use of the word tort as such in this context.
	If you try to remember a few years ago, nobody did that.
	In fact, this is a good example of something I did want to bring up before, because I've run into this over the last, probably only the last month or two, where the word tort is used as such.
	In other words, tort, tort, tort.
	They keep talking about it.
	This, I'm telling you, a year ago you would never hear this, but now for some reason, tort itself has become a meme.
	I don't know why, but I've been noticing it.
	The literal translation or the definition of tort is a wrongful act or an infringement of a right other than under contract leading to a civil legal liability.
	Pretty broad.
	Generally speaking, the words that were used to describe this were always a civil suit, a civil suit, a defamation suit, a libel lawsuit.
	But the word tort itself was never brought into it.
	Tort is defined as what you just said.
	But I've never heard it until, again, like within the last month or two, used commonly in this, the way this guy did.
	He just brings it up and he starts talking about tort, tort, tort, tort.
	And is that incorrect because of the actual definition?
	It's incorrect?
	I don't think it's incorrect in the least, but I don't know why it's now being used when it's never been used like this before.
	It's always been undercurrent.
	You heard about tort reform.
	Yes, you've heard that, and that's never gone anywhere.
	But there's something going on with this word I'm not sure what it is.
	But when something crops up like this out of the blue and just keeps being hounded, and this guy's the best example of it, I get very suspicious.
	I am as well.
	And the kicker clip here is, to me, was kind of mind-blowing.
	I couldn't find any follow-up or anything that...
	That went into the fact that this is what Donald Trump was talking about when everyone was yelling, he wants to get rid of free speech, wants to get rid of the First Amendment!
	That's exactly what he was talking about.
	About these types of laws of defamation, and that for celebrities, people who are in the public eye, you have very little recourse when this takes place against your public persona.
	And so I found it rather interesting that they actually talk about this without mentioning the fact that this is exactly what Trump was talking about when he said we need to look at the First Amendment, which was his code for dominoes, and for, hey, we need to change the way civil suits are brought or can or cannot be brought against people in the public eye.
	Is there any movement afoot to review these laws or statutes or among your community, right, of academics?
	How are people talking about this?
	I think that fake news really has kind of all set us back a little bit.
	One of the ideas behind the First Amendment is that we believe in something called the marketplace of ideas.
	That if you let truthhood and falsity battle in the marketplace of ideas, that truth will eventually win.
	an assumption that people are rational and they can determine truth from falsity.
	And that's kind of making us rethink these sort of basic premises behind freedom of expression.
	Are we in a situation now where truth no longer matters and people are not able to sort these things out?
	Other people say, you know, the idea that truth is always going to win is idle sentimentality.
	The reason we have freedom of expression is not because truth will always win, but because without freedom of expression, truth has no chance of winning whatsoever.
	And so this has been a really challenging election for a lot of people who believe in free speech.
	And, you know, media law has actually come up a lot in this election, and it's something that a lot of us are thinking deeply about.
	I like falsity.
	Good term, falsity.
	I like post-truth.
	Well, it is the word of the year, after all.
	Well, at least with one dictionary.
	So I think that's where we're going to be headed.
	We're not going to be beheaded, but we are headed down the path of...
	I think you're still cutting this Pizzagate thing a little short.
	I was thinking about this during this segment, and I was thinking of the naming conventions for pizza places.
	Little Caesars, that has kind of a pedophile sound to it if you ask me.
	Pizza, pizza, the little buzz phrase, that's kind of sketchy.
	Pizza Hut.
	Hut.
	Huh?
	Hut.
	Straw Hat.
	Yeah, kids wear straw hats.
	Shakey's, huh?
	Shakey's.
	Shakey's, shakey's, huh?
	Yeah, uh-huh.
	Lane Splitter is a big one around here.
	Lane Splitter.
	Get it?
	Oh, split the lane.
	Mmm, mmm.
	Code Domino's.
	Domino's Pizza.
	And Domino's Pizza.
	We should go to Domino's.
	Uncle John's.
	Five guys.
	Yeah, Uncle John.
	There's a guy for you.
	Yeah, this is very suspect.
	I can see where you can get carried away thinking this because it's so obvious.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, super obvious.
	Except there's no victims.
	Well, there's that.
	But we are going to see.
	Maybe they become the sausage on the pizza.
	Like Soylent Green.
	You're eating kids!
	I don't know, man.
	So that's all.
	I'm not selling it short, John.
	That's bullcrap.
	No, I'm still on your side on this.
	I will say those guys at the Comet Place probably deserve a little grief because they're kind of creepy.
	And like the guy in Austin was talking about, you know, guys who have the ear piercing that has a big giant hole.
	Yeah, it's blown out with a shotgun.
	Blown out.
	Yeah, it's a big, huge, and they make it bigger and bigger and bigger.
	You know, this is something that used to take place during, when I was a kid, I remember.
	It happens in Africa to this day.
	Yeah, with the eubangies and these people that put the film cans in their lips and they get these huge mouths.
	And they play music with Sting.
	Yeah, those people.
	Sting, yeah, Sting.
	Yeah, what are you saying?
	They're creepy?
	Is that what you're saying?
	Yeah, well, they're creepy, fine.
	Yeah, but creepy is not the same as being pedophile necessarily.
	But the more Pizzagate continues, the more it's going to be used to bring in licensing of journalism, the more it's going to be used to sue people who propagate this.
	Well, I think you're real hit in this long-winded thing, which included that very long clip of people bickering.
	Is the possibility that this guy was...
	You said he had an IMDB page.
	This actor goes in there, and you're right.
	Nobody goes roaming around Washington, D.C. with an AR-15 in the air and shooting off rounds and doesn't get gunned down.
	My point, exactly.
	So, we'll continue to follow it from this direction.
	Well, I hope we don't have to continue to follow it.
	I wish it would end.
	It's not that good.
	It's not.
	I mean, I like that.
	I think it's funny.
	I got a kick out of, you know, Hillary Clinton running a pedophile ring.
	I mean, that to me is just priceless.
	Well, it'd be more like Podesta, not Clinton.
	Or Podesta is totally the...
	He looks the role.
	That's the problem with you.
	You're going to be that kind of crazy looking.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C, where the C stands for Culpable Through Verification, Dvorak.
	Well, as I grab my mouse and open the spreadsheet, I want to say in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry, also in the morning to all the ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
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	Mark G, who brought us the artwork for...
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	He brought us the artwork for episode 883, Throne Sniffing, and this was the podcaster button, which we both liked.
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	That's where we take our submissions from, from our fabulous artistic producers, and we appreciate all the work that all of you do.
	Thank you.
	And we want to thank some of our executive producers and associate executive producers for today's program.
	Yeah, we do.
	We absolutely want to thank these people for helping us produce, and especially associate executive producers and producers.
	For show 884, I believe is what it is.
	Is it 884?
	884, yeah.
	I think it is.
	And then let me start by reading their names one after the other.
	Starting with Oscar.
	Oh, no, that's not right.
	Starting with Sir Anonymous, the Angelic Knight, who came in and saved the day with $1,207.41.
	It's two people.
	Oh, and Sir Angelic.
	That's his brother who died.
	He passed away.
	Remember?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Oh, right, right, right, right.
	From Sir Anonymous' brother, Sir Angelic Knight, that we may always remember this day and how it changed the world.
	Thank you for all This is Pearl Harbor Day.
	Thank you for all those who have and continue to defend our freedoms.
	Freedom of religion and speech are the first mentioned because they are so precious.
	The election season has improved my faith as every day I now pray for the eternal damnation exists and may fall on the intentional liars that harm others with words and deeds.
	I don't think you can pray for negative stuff.
	I don't think so either, but he's doing it.
	Okay.
	Freedom's coming to cause, so this is my donation to honor freedoms we all fight to save on this important date.
	And let us give you a little bit of karma for that.
	Thank you.
	You've got karma.
	Now, this is 1-2-0-7.
	Oh, that's the date.
	Jeez, that's fantastic.
	Wow, what a donation.
	Thank you.
	It was yesterday.
	Yeah.
	I thought it was December 6th.
	I guess I'm wrong.
	No, December 7th was the day that lives in infamy.
	Apparently not so much infamy that we couldn't get it mixed up with the 6th.
	Well, it was a little early.
	Kevin Anderson in Milford, Michigan.
	41667.
	Ah, he has an email.
	He wanted to get his knighthood today because he's going to the big meetup tonight.
	There's a massive meetup in Michigan.
	Michigan Local One has all these meetups around the state.
	The only state that really got into it.
	And where can people find info on this?
	Go find his name.
	It's on Meetup?
	Sorry?
	Is it on the Meetup?
	Meetup.org,.com, whatever?
	I don't know where they listed it.
	They have their own mailing list and they send it around.
	Alright, good.
	Great.
	We're going to have a Meetup in Los Angeles.
	Are they meeting up at a pizza parlor?
	I don't know, maybe Pizza Pizza.
	Have to be Little Caesars.
	What was the funniest one?
	I can't remember.
	Split Lane.
	Lane Splitter.
	Lane Splitter.
	Okay.
	That's funny.
	Where is Anderson here?
	Well, he did send a note in.
	Mm-hmm.
	Let me see what we got.
	Sorry.
	Kevin Anderson.
	I must have spelled it wrong in the search.
	Yeah.
	I'm getting there.
	I didn't spell it wrong.
	I'll take a look.
	Alright.
	Well, anyway, Kevin, the note was about getting your knighthood.
	He did have some requests.
	I'll dig it up as we go and we'll do it later.
	I have it here.
	Oh, you do?
	I think so.
	Here we go.
	No agenda took four years, but I finally achieved knighthood.
	I hereby wish to be referred to as Cervix of the Hot African Bush.
	I intended to wait for episode 888 because it's my lucky number, but I had to pull it out way early to get my knighthood prior to the Michigan meetup, which is this Thursday evening.
	Please play me out with my fake news jingle, which I'm sending with my note.
	I'm very aware that my voice sucks, but the show inspires me.
	Kevin Anderson, soon to be knight on this program from Milford, Michigan.
	Writing up some fake news.
	Trying to get cheap clicks and top page views.
	Writing up some fake news.
	Oh, it's propaganda time.
	Nice.
	You've got Carmen.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Dynamite.
	That was good.
	Actually, it was not bad because I think the off-key voice made it work.
	I like it, too.
	Sir Chris Bach of the Brewers Guild in Cheshire, Connecticut, $333.33.
	And he looks like he's going to be taken up to Baron.
	Do we have him on the list of upgrades?
	My birthday this week, I've given myself an executive producership to celebrate.
	The donation also makes me a Baron.
	I want to be the Baron of Quinnipiac.
	I'm glad you asked.
	I'm glad you asked because he's not on the list.
	Quinnipiac Valley.
	Thanks for helping us keep things in perspective in a crazy world.
	Karma for everyone.
	Ready?
	You've got karma.
	So he is...
	Let me just get this right.
	He's going to be a baron and the baron of Quinnipiac Valley.
	That did not make it into the spreadsheet.
	Okay.
	He's Quinnipiac.
	Quinnipiac.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	Onward.
	Thomas Butterick in Dayton, Ohio.
	$201.
	Be associate executive producer for show 884.
	$201.01.
	ITM gents, Sir Ladyfingers here.
	I've been a baronet most of the year and I didn't bother to tell you all See attached email to both of you for Mattis, notes, jingles, and accounting.
	D-bag call out for Samuel Butterick and David Johnson, the mailman.
	Mail carrier.
	He says mailman on here, so I read what they wrote.
	Let's see what we have for Butterick.
	I have...
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Yes.
	You have it?
	No, no, no, no.
	Go ahead.
	Keep going.
	I have the next one.
	Oh, okay.
	We'll just give him a karma.
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	Now, this next one, I got an email.
	Wait a minute.
	I didn't do this one.
	He's got some call-outs.
	I mean, some other stuff he wants to put in there.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	That's what he says.
	All I see is...
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, I see what you're saying.
	I'm sorry.
	I was wrong.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Okay, same thing.
	He's kind of reiterated.
	Okay, here it is.
	Brief note on General Mattis.
	Oh, this is a story.
	Something we should know.
	This is important to the show.
	I, he says, as a former military sergeant, the Marines can report that Mattis has a passionate cult following and is universally admired.
	he's known for looking out for troop welfare above and beyond the call of duty checking on the guards while deployed in the dead of night interacting with junior personnel and frequently giving his personal time former command command commandant general crew lock related a story of finding mattis a perpetual story was news to me it was reported in the stars and stripes at the time mattis was reluctant to send aircraft without knowing the situation on the ground according to an account in the only thing worth dying for a book or movie
	Well, they've taken fire, and I can't tell me definitively how they got all scuffed up.
	well they've taken fire and i can't tell me definitely how they got all scuffed up i'm not going to send anything until you can assure me that the situation on the ground is secure i think that's that situation that the army guy was bitching about as a student of war perhaps he was avoiding another black hog down this is already too long but it's important to point out his reputation as a warrior monk and student of war and the only thing worth dying for, a book or movie.
	I'm not going to send anything until you can assure me that the situation on the ground is secure.
	I think that's that situation that the army guy was bitching about.
	As a student of war, perhaps he was avoiding another black hog down.
	This is already too long, but it's important to point out his reputation as a warrior monk and student of war.
	He is the embodiment of the warrior ethos.
	His humor might be dry, but it's eaten up by the young gun-toting warfighters.
	Taking quotes out of context, e.g., it's fun to shoot some people, is part of a character assassination effort targeting a man who operates well in an environment.
	I think he's pointing this note at me.
	Operates well in an environment where PC culture doesn't have a home.
	The one negative story aside, I have yet to hear any substantial criticism lodged from fellow service members of any branch.
	Maybe knee-jerk, but I cannot think of a better man for the job to continue to counter assholes like Secretary Mabus.
	Mabus?
	I don't know who Mabus is now.
	Anyway, he's got a jingle request.
	Trigger warning at the end of the show.
	Douchebag check.
	Bag check.
	Bag check.
	No douchebag check.
	And whoa, whoa, whoa, you got butt slammed.
	Douchebag check.
	Yeah.
	And you got butt slammed.
	Whoa, whoa.
	Uh...
	Just a butt slam thing that we do.
	Yeah, I know, but he needs whoa, doesn't he?
	Well, it says whoa, ho, ho, you got butt slammed.
	Oh, okay, okay.
	So I've got the douchebag check, and he wants the trigger at the end of the show, which will be odd because it says it's meant for the beginning of the show, but...
	Okay.
	Douchebag and what was the other one?
	The last one?
	Sorry.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
	You got butt slam.
	I guess.
	Nice.
	Finally, last but not least, anonymous in parts unknown here.
	He sent me an encrypted note.
	Okay, that's fantastic.
	Greetings from afar.
	I'm a loyal monthly contributor, but this is my first true producership credit.
	I struggle to find words that fully convey my appreciation for your work.
	It's all been said before anyway, so please accept my simple, heartfelt thank you.
	of giving away from home again.
	I think he may be military.
	Fortunately, I have great access to the internet.
	Yeah, he's military.
	And as much evil as packet-switched data networks have brought to humanity, it is uplifting to have a stable line of communications to friends and family back home.
	Hmm.
	I'm thinking maritime for switch.
	If he's on a switch network.
	Hmm.
	The internet also gives me a line to reciprocate giving.
	In that spirit, I ask that this associate executive producership go to Sir John the Brewer.
	All hail the ale!
	One jingle request for the end of the show, the integrate or die, or maybe it was evolve or die song that sampled Jean-Claude Juncker.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Yeah, wow was right.
	That is not going to happen.
	Darn.
	You know, it was probably one of those Danny Loose things.
	I remember it, but it was long ago and it was a one-off.
	Well, I'll look for it before the end of the show.
	Well, you know, I could get...
	Was it Integrate?
	Was it Integrator Die?
	No, it was Evolve?
	I have no idea.
	Damn.
	Okay.
	I do have a Make Good, though.
	Okay.
	Do you have your pen out?
	Oh, yes.
	Okay.
	This is Allison, who on her birthday, from last show, Allison had a birthday on Monday.
	I want to put her on the list.
	And she wanted a Don't Eat Me Hillary movie.
	Get out of my vagina and...
	Little girl, yay.
	Okay.
	Don't eat me.
	Out of my vagina.
	And...
	What was the...
	Little girl, yay.
	Little girl, yay, yeah.
	Okay.
	This is so much.
	Hey, and when is her birthday?
	I need to put her on the birthday list, I presume?
	The birthday was last Monday.
	Okay.
	25.
	She's 25.
	Okay.
	Turn 25.
	So that will be belated.
	25.
	Here we go.
	Eat me, Hillary Clinton!
	Get out of my vagina!
	Yay!
	You've got karma.
	Bookkeeping.
	Paperwork.
	Well, we got it out of the way.
	That concludes our little group of producers and executive producers for show 884.
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	I have a little reported story here that's showing up around the Bay Area and elsewhere.
	And it's very interesting because there are solutions to this problem.
	And I knew this was going to happen.
	Not in this form.
	This is fantastic, the way it's going down.
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	New car, easy to steal.
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	We're back now with a new warning for drivers about a mysterious device being used to break into cars without even touching them.
	Thieves are using 21st century technology to copy your keys just by standing near you without you ever knowing it's even happening.
	We get the alert and details in tonight's Rawson reports from National Investigative Correspondent Jeff Rawson.
	In California, this suspect is using a mystery device to break into this SUV, stealing an expensive bike.
	In Seattle, another suspect holding his backpack close to the car door, and boom, he's in.
	And it's happening across the country.
	But now, officials at the National Insurance Crime Bureau say they may have solved the mystery.
	This device that fits in a small bag could be what thieves are using, showing us how it works.
	All right, so we're going to demonstrate this.
	And by the way, this is a two-person job because the device comes in two different pieces, your piece and my piece.
	My producer Giovanna here is going to play the victim, basically any one of you who park at a mall parking lot, any big parking lot.
	So here's what would happen.
	You and I are going to play the suspects.
	We'd come over here and we'd sort of be in a parking lot talking amongst ourselves, nothing suspicious.
	Meanwhile, you would park your car and here's what would happen.
	Okay, getting out of my car, locking my door like I normally would and just walking away.
	What she doesn't see, our suspect trailing behind her with the device, cloning the signal of her car's key fob in just seconds.
	Okay, I've got the green light, I've got a signal from the fob, and I'm backing off.
	So his device just automatically sent the signal to my smaller device.
	Now this is basically the key to the car.
	Now remember, the door is completely locked, but when I hold this up to the door, look, I open the door right up, and that's not all.
	With this device, watch this.
	Yes, I just started the car.
	So now I'm a thief in your car driving away within seconds all because of this little device.
	It's terrifying how fast this is.
	And it's not just this car.
	Our experts using the device to break into and start 17 different makes and models.
	The alliance of automobile manufacturers telling NBC News automakers have been working on multiple fronts to address security and enhance it, calling it a top priority.
	So what can we do?
	Park in a crowded area at least so it lessens the chance.
	And if you see somebody suspicious around there, have second thoughts and maybe alert the police.
	A new warning just in time for your holiday shopping.
	Jeff Rosson, NBC News, Chicago.
	I really love that effect they got in there.
	I tried to ISO it.
	They got a fast one, though.
	Yeah.
	Nice.
	Yeah, so, okay.
	Now, this was expected.
	Let's face reality about a modern car.
	Which, of course, is my excuse to keep my 24-year-old Lexus.
	Which drives like a train.
	It still drives well.
	And people, when they see me and they say, oh, is that the old car you keep bitching about in the show that you do?
	These cars have got GPS in them since about 1996 or 97.
	There's like a GPS thing.
	It's the newer ones.
	They know where you are all the time.
	The cars use this wireless remote, you stick it in your pocket, you never have to pull a key out, you just walk up to the car, it opens, and it starts.
	You've got a button, you push a button, and the button makes it start, just like a 1945 Packard.
	I think, didn't you have to use a shotgun shell to start the Packard?
	There's a button.
	It seems to me, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.
	Actually, I probably am wrong.
	The mechanical key that you used to use, like my old Lexus, you stick a key, a fancy key as a matter of fact, stick a key into a thing, and you turn it, and then the car starts, and then you're on your way.
	Now there's no key, there's nothing to turn, so it's all...
	So the electronics that are on one side of the car that do all this fancy stuff, and then the wireless key thing, which the battery can go dead, by the way, can't get in your car.
	Great.
	That little item is...
	Generally speaking.
	My question is why isn't this communication between car and key encrypted?
	That seems like the obvious thing to do.
	That's not the problem.
	The problem with this device is they clone your key, so they would clone the encryption key too.
	So they get behind you with this little device that just talks to the key in your pocket or the key in your purse in the case of the device.
	And then the key tells, says, oh, are you the car?
	No, yeah, I'm the car.
	Well, give me the code.
	Okay, here it is.
	Oh, okay, never mind.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm going to have to, I got to throw up an objection on that.
	Okay.
	If you're using encryption properly, then the only thing that will be sent back and forth is the one-time verification code.
	No, they're not going to.
	Because you have...
	Well, jeez, I mean, I can do it with my email.
	Why wouldn't they do it in the car?
	You have a public key and a private key.
	There's no way that if someone got that one-time token that you can use it again.
	I don't understand why that's not possible.
	Sorry.
	I'm sure that there is an encryption mechanism that makes it possible.
	But they're not using it because they didn't see any reason.
	That two-and-a-half-minute report didn't include any of that.
	Well, I'm thinking...
	No, because the car companies aren't going to do any of that.
	They didn't do it because nobody thought that would be one of the solutions.
	But that's at the car level.
	What are you going to do with all these old cars on the road?
	We're talking about how long has this been going on?
	A decade?
	Millions of cars with this stupid system?
	At least?
	So, I have a recommendation.
	Yeah, disable that and use your key.
	Well, a lot of these don't have a key.
	No, mine does.
	Yeah, well, your car's not that new.
	It's 2015.
	No, 2014.
	You're right.
	But yeah, but yours, it's a truck, too.
	They have to be more practical.
	You know, you can't have no keyhole at all.
	Yeah, you could disable it if you could, but then you still have to somehow turn it back on.
	And I look at those things.
	My daughter's got a Volkswagen, and it has one of these electronic keys, or it's going to, but I've seen these things.
	And there's no way to disable it.
	There's no little button that turns it off.
	It's not like on my Lexus, which is an old 93 Lexus.
	They used to have a little button on the side of the key that would open the doors.
	But that could be the sale by turning it off inside the car.
	And there's also the issue with making the button work to start the engine on the newer cars.
	It's not the way to go.
	You can't do it.
	But what you can do is be a little nerdy and carry a...
	A aluminum foil pouch.
	A Faraday cage.
	Or a small Faraday cage with that cloth that they make.
	And then as soon as you get out of the car and you hit the button to lock the car, you drop it into the Faraday cage pouch and then stick that in your purse.
	This was not suggested at all.
	You know, I have a suggestion.
	When I just started out driving in the Netherlands, I had a number of cars.
	My first car was a Volvo 141, which was a tank with a lawnmower engine.
	Yeah, very classic.
	Then I had a Volkswagen Bug 1303, which was souped up.
	That was classic.
	I bet it was souped up.
	Yeah, it was.
	And I also had a Citroën De Cheveau 2CV. Boy, that's a gutless wonder of all time.
	Yeah, it's the two horsepower, three speed, I think it was, three speed on the dashboard, with this big stick that, you know, you push it in and to the left for one and back.
	Yeah, the impaler.
	The impaler, exactly.
	But because it, by design, had kind of like a sardine can top that you could roll back.
	So it was a rag top, but not, you know, literally you rolled it back.
	You had to have two people to roll it over.
	A classic.
	So these things are very easy to steal because you can get into them.
	And we had a steering wheel lock.
	And it was great.
	It was a long piece of metal with, you know, it was adjustable in length, with rounded edge on one side, and then like an S, it rounded the other way, and you put one end of the S around your brake pedal.
	Do they still make these?
	I wonder.
	They were great.
	No, they do.
	We had one for a Miata that we once had.
	Yeah, these are easy to deploy.
	And it doubles as an ugly stick to beat someone over the head.
	Yeah.
	That's my recommendation.
	Well, that's the point of the report was they weren't necessarily wanting to steal the cars.
	They wanted to steal the stuff that was in them.
	I understand.
	I understand.
	So your recommendation...
	My recommendation doesn't work.
	And then my second recommendation...
	It does if you don't keep stuff in your car.
	Yeah, that's my second recommendation.
	Don't leave shit in your car.
	I'm telling you, Faraday Cage, carry one with you at all times.
	I have a couple.
	You do?
	Yeah, I have Faraday bags.
	And in the Faraday bag, I always have two ham radio walkie-talkies.
	Or as we call them, handies.
	An HT, the handy-talkie.
	Why are they in a Faraday cage?
	So if we get nuked or some EMP, then they'll still work.
	Oh, I get it.
	It's a set, you know?
	Hello, hello McFly.
	There you go.
	If we get nuked or an EMP, yeah, big EMP, boom, right over Austin, you'll be ready.
	That's right.
	Save the world.
	I have my meals ready to eat.
	I have my one acre crisis garden.
	I think I have some iodine drops here somewhere.
	Ebola.
	Ebola, that's right.
	That's right.
	Ebola.
	Whoa, whoa.
	Ebola.
	I have a follow-up on the Ebola crisis.
	There was a kind of a post-mortem on NPR. Got a lot of NPR clips from people for some reason.
	With a guy from the CDC. And we always talk about how the truth wants to come out.
	And people say the darndest things.
	Like, wow, you know, the truth kind of wants...
	And sometimes it comes out in the form of jokes, wouldn't you say?
	Oh, absolutely.
	In fact, I think most people who joke about...
	In fact, just to give you a little backup on that thesis, the great folklorist, Legman, can't remember his first name, wrote these two books called The Rationale of the Dirty Joke.
	And he surmised and kind of proved that if you can kind of psychologically analyze somebody by the type of dirty joke they like to tell, Yes, exactly.
	And this was a very serious conversation about Ebola and how challenging it was for the operatives in these countries who are running the medical facilities to get people to come in and stay in the facility so they could be treated.
	And one of the challenges they had is they had people who were accustomed to taking drugs of the illegal substance kind.
	And they were tweaking.
	They wanted their drugs.
	So they had to figure out a way to get people what they needed so that they wouldn't be outside of the tents spreading Ebola.
	If any of this is true at all, but...
	In this report, we may learn something.
	I told the government that we had to anticipate that some of these young men may be drug users and they may go into withdrawal if we put them in the ETU. And, in fact, that was the case.
	About two to three days later, there were some of them getting agitated.
	And somehow they found a way to support their needs for drugs.
	Did you have to do some of that to help them get what they needed to keep them in this facility where they could be quarantined?
	No, the CDC didn't pay for that or do that, but the government found a way for the community to support them, so they were doing that.
	But in some ways it's sort of an awkward situation for the government, because in some ways you're asking the government to sort of look the other way while someone's doing something illegal here.
	Yeah, I think that they, but at the same time, it'd be like any withdrawal.
	They needed treatment.
	It wasn't a conventional treatment, that's for sure.
	It was odd for public health officials to be sanctioning illegal drug use.
	But again, when you're in the middle of an unfolding catastrophe, you sometimes have to bend the rules.
	Even though CDC wasn't actually supplying anyone drugs, the arrangement produced lots of double takes.
	One day, a Liberian government minister turned to Frank during a discussion and joked about the backdoor drug channel.
	And he says, and I understand that CDC is providing them with the marijuana.
	And I said, excuse me, sir, I'd like to correct that.
	He said, CDC is not providing the marijuana, but we're providing the cocaine.
	How about that?
	Now, there's a clip with a punchline.
	Now, there's one other thing about this, though.
	Since when do people have withdrawal symptoms from marijuana?
	They don't.
	And since when do they have withdrawal symptoms from cocaine?
	They don't.
	They don't.
	So, I think maybe this whole story is somehow, it doesn't fit, but then the joke about, no, we're not supplying the marijuana, we're supplying the cocaine.
	Dude, who knows what they were doing out there?
	It had to be heroin if there's anything going on like that.
	I just thought it was funny.
	Well, since you brought up marijuana, you have a clip.
	So I'm watching the NFL. Yeah, NFL Today.
	It's a show on Showtime with a bunch of guys yakking for an hour about the football games of the last week.
	And so they have this...
	the guy was an executive producer and also one of the hosts, Phil Sims, a famous quarterback from the New York Giants from years ago, has his son on, who apparently got on the show because he did some rant on one of these sports shows or website, actually, about marijuana and how it should be legalized actually, about marijuana and how it should be legalized across the board and that the NFL in particular should let people use it instead of letting them get strung out on oxycodone and all the other.
	Isn't there a famous UT player who also is advocating this?
	Probably.
	There's a bunch of football players who advocate it.
	And so they do a little thing on here, and here come the old memes, and I really felt like this was...
	I mean, I'm watching something from the 40s, or listening to these guys go back and forth, but...
	Reefer Madness!
	And there's definitely not a...
	Mention of CBD. They talk about, you know, they kind of beat around the bush because they didn't do enough research.
	But play this clip, marijuana in the NFL, and it should be mentioned that...
	These players who get just massively injured in all kinds of different ways really need some sort of a pain medication like CBD, which does not get you high in any way.
	On Bleacher Report.
	So that brought it up.
	Hey, Phil, we're going to do this segment because your son said this.
	And I went, well, this is great.
	Yeah, it's okay.
	I'm fine with it.
	I'm fine with it.
	And I said, you know, I'm going to come on there and I'm going to just smash it.
	In other words, I'm going to be anti against everything he's saying.
	And then I did a lot of research.
	I called some experts in the field of all this and what we're talking about.
	And I'm telling you immediately, it changed my mind.
	Because there's ingredients in marijuana.
	I'm not saying legalized marijuana, but the ingredients in marijuana, just a well-known doctor told me this.
	He goes, it's anti-inflammatory, the ingredients you're talking about.
	So that was one thing.
	It helps nerve pain.
	And the biggest thing, Mike, you were saying, Judy, to get players off the painkillers.
	This is just a few of the things that, if you could separate it, not smoking marijuana, but get the ingredients that can help you.
	Just hearing that and knowing pro football and knowing what a lot of ex-players go through.
	And what normal people go through, just reading this, in the last two days, it's changed my thoughts on it.
	So, Judy, let me ask you this from the perspective of the NFLPA. Is this something that they're going to use in their negotiations, trying to get this to be allowed for, I would say, as Chris was saying, recreational use as well?
	Well, I'm not sure that the league will ever go to that, or I think we're a long way from the league approving it for recreational use.
	I could certainly see a carve-out for medicinal use, where it's closely monitored, where the team doctors know exactly what's going on.
	But it's a negotiating point.
	It's got to be negotiated between the union and the league, and you better believe they're going to try to extract something from the other side to get it.
	Judy, you're right.
	But the thing about marijuana, you know, everybody goes, oh, I've said some of the good things that are in it, too.
	But the other part about it is, too, it makes you drowsy.
	Your memory, other things you lose.
	So those are the...
	It's like drinking and driving.
	CBD does not do that.
	Yeah.
	DPD does not do any of those.
	No, of course not.
	It can happen if you're smoking marijuana.
	But, you know, if you're going to watch ESPN for your medical information, you know, you get what you pay for.
	What about the other ingredients that are in there that can help?
	Well, all I know is that there's two sides of every story.
	I talk to people in law enforcement that I know very, very well.
	They tell me that it's a gateway drug, that they're totally against the recreational use of it.
	I think I do understand where you're coming from, the medicinal side of it, and I say in the Palliotic care world, then I would definitely use it.
	As far as recreational, where you're going, I think that's too extreme, especially for NFL players.
	Oh my goodness.
	Yeah, it's a gateway drug.
	Hold on a second.
	Let's stop.
	That was Boomer Esiason, who obviously doesn't know anything.
	Really?
	From the Cincinnati Bengals?
	He said knowingly?
	Yes.
	I know, you're impressed.
	Boomer Esiason, who obviously has cops as friends, who tell him, oh, I've talked to my friends who are cops, and they say it's a gateway drug.
	Hold on a second, what's the real gateway drug we're talking about here?
	Is it marijuana or is it oxycodone?
	What gateway drug are we talking about here?
	I would say oxy is the definition of a gateway drug, because people can't afford it, they get cut off, and they go to heroin.
	Yeah, how many people can't afford pot and then go to heroin?
	Nobody.
	Although heroin is way cheaper than pot.
	It is way cheaper than pot, but nobody goes to heroin because that's what they're looking for.
	But there's a lot of meth.
	I think meth may be a gateway drug.
	Well, a lot of things are bad.
	Of all the things we've talked about, the least gateway drug is marijuana.
	Yeah, and the fact that it's the cannabinoids you want.
	It's not the THC. Yeah, especially if you're a football player.
	Is that easy to separate?
	Yes!
	How do you separate the CBD? It's just an alcohol separation of some sort.
	I'm not sure.
	They probably use a distill.
	It's probably distilled off.
	There's a million ways to separate these chemicals.
	And I get the sense because there's so much CBD product out there.
	And they're blending it.
	You know, let's put a little of this and a little of that.
	Make it a 40-60.
	Let's make it a 60-40.
	That is probably very easy to separate.
	I got some stuff from Danny, the drug dealer, who went to California.
	He's up in the mountains, and he's learning how to grow all this stuff.
	And he sent me some stuff to the mail.
	I walk into the mail room here in my building.
	Oh, my God.
	No, it's stinking.
	Danny, the drug dealer.
	Yeah.
	Danny, do a better job of sealing this stuff up.
	Now, I'm a pretty weathered guy.
	This is Oz Gorilla.
	You're what?
	Weathered.
	I mean, experienced with the marijuana product.
	I thought you were outside too long.
	Yeah.
	Too much.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Um...
	I'm experienced.
	I have some standing in the area.
	You do.
	Having grown up in Amsterdam.
	And I have to say, this Oz gorilla stuff, that knocked me on my ass.
	That is uncommon.
	Now, I didn't immediately say, wow, that was great, I need some horse, but...
	There definitely is some hard-ass stuff out there.
	Oz Gorilla?
	Oz Gorilla, yeah.
	I want a refund.
	It's not fun.
	I mean, yeah, if you want to go to sleep.
	But I rarely have that.
	Anyway...
	No, most of this stuff's not fun anymore.
	The CBD is interesting, and like I said, I'll say it again.
	For everyone who listens to the show, they know this.
	They're going to roll their eyes.
	You go into one of these drug pot shops in Washington State.
	The place is filled with old ladies who have aches and pains, and this stuff does just great.
	You know, I still have the kratom, which I need to try.
	That is on the list.
	But after our conversation about mushrooms, oh man, I received so much email about that particular topic.
	And it was consistently like this.
	You need to try this.
	This can give you a life-changing experience.
	It will take about seven hours.
	You should fast a few days beforehand and take a week off.
	Yeah.
	How many mushrooms are these guys eating?
	I don't know, man.
	That was my thought exactly.
	Like, I can't do that.
	I've never heard anyone say anything so crazy.
	Yeah.
	Fast and take a week off.
	But the whole idea of being high for seven hours, no.
	No.
	No.
	And everyone's like, well, you know, usually it's great.
	You could get a really bad trip.
	Not looking for that.
	No.
	You could get a bad trip.
	Not looking for it.
	That's why I like DMT. 20 minutes, done.
	You know, you're going to live.
	I'm going to live if you have a bad trip.
	Theremin.
	Play the theremin.
	Hey, man.
	Hey, you could have a bad trip.
	I'm having a really, really bad trip.
	Oh, man.
	I'm seeing monkeys flying out of your butt.
	That's my little...
	Well, that was my lead-in to your mushroom clip.
	I thought you'd catch the drift.
	Oh, the mushroom clip.
	Yeah, yeah, the mushroom clip.
	What was I... I can't remember this.
	We're back now with what you might call an unconventional way that has helped some cancer patients feel better.
	Psychedelic medicine, you might say, in the form of magic mushrooms.
	And doctors say for some, they're working, well, magic.
	Let's get more from NBC's Kristen Dahlgren.
	When you think magic mushrooms...
	Chances are something like this comes to mind.
	But you may soon think of this, a medication.
	Two small but encouraging studies out today show the hallucinogenic ingredient in some mushrooms, called psilocybin, reduced anxiety and depression in 80% of cancer patients for more than six months after receiving just one dose.
	So you've been through a lot, though, in your life.
	Gail Cowan was in her fourth bout with breast cancer.
	Very stressed.
	After extensive psychological testing, she was given a pill and watched closely by doctors as she listened to music and went on a vivid mind trip.
	It's beautiful.
	It's, you know, it's something you want to embrace.
	Cowan took the drug two years ago and still...
	Like every night when I get in bed, I find that I have this smile on my face.
	It's that long-term effect that has doctors hoping for more studies conducted under tight DEA regulation and medical supervision.
	People should not look at this research and data and extrapolate from that.
	They can go get mushrooms illicitly, try it and think it's going to help them.
	But researchers are now encouraged by the potential of psychedelics to treat things like alcoholism, smoking, and depression.
	Just this week, the FDA approved a large-scale trial using the illegal party drug ecstasy for PTSD. Once criminal compounds getting a second look and giving some, like Gail Cowan, a second chance.
	I think it's wonderful.
	Kristen Dahlgren, NBC News, New York.
	I think I worked with her.
	I find that very interesting.
	I mean, it may very well be true that, I mean, you know, we're learning more and more about our natural surroundings and what natural things can do for us, and I find that encouraging.
	But here's my problem.
	The advertisement that you hear, you know, for magic mushrooms is like, Hey!
	It's all so nice!
	It's so wonderful!
	And I know the minute I take mushrooms, it's going to be like this.
	Well, that's what I'm expecting.
	I'm not thinking I want that.
	I'd be more in line with expecting this from this clip.
	This is the YouTuber, and I recommend people check this woman out.
	Or girl.
	I didn't send this to you because I know you would get so irked.
	Yeah, especially on a prep night, yeah.
	Especially, this is a very short clip, an excerpt from Boxy and what she has to say.
	If we had a class together, I would have remembered you because I love your hair!
	And it's so pretty, and it's so long, and I have been growing my hair out for two years, and this is as far as I've gotten, and it's not very long, but your hair is so long, and it's not as raw, and it must have taken forever for it to get that long, and I really like it, and so I think I would have remembered you, because I really love your hair.
	Also, I really love your kitty!
	He's so cute, and he jumps, and he's...
	And he's super cute.
	And if I had to, I would love him and cuddle him all day long.
	And you should too.
	You should be happy you have such a cute little kitty.
	He's so cute.
	And also, when your nails fell off, I kind of giggled because that used to happen to me all the time.
	Yeah.
	Vyvanse.
	Magic Mushrooms.
	Vyvanse is what I'm thinking.
	You're thinking Magic Mushrooms?
	No, I don't know what I'm thinking.
	I think it's Vyvanse.
	I like it.
	Earlier a clip in the show, we had this effect.
	I think I pointed it out.
	And she did the same thing, which is overpronounce the T's that are in the middle of a word.
	So she said, gotten.
	Gotten.
	Important.
	Now, this is interesting because we actually played something some shows ago about how And we talked about it, like the tooth brush.
	Some letters are missing, and we're starting to hear people drop the T's in the middle, so they say gotten.
	So she's the opposite, gotten.
	So there's a gotten going on, and a gotten going on.
	Important.
	So there's something going on with the language, it's almost like the climate, it's just trying to make up for people saying gotten.
	Oh, it's like trying to balance it out.
	Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
	Between underpronunciation and overpronunciation.
	Yeah, don't you think?
	Oh, I like that.
	Yeah, I like it.
	I've got information, man.
	New shit has come to light.
	I just wanted to share an email that came in, John, from our friend Brian the Gay Crusader in Chicago.
	Okay.
	Adam, I just heard the clip of the chick who is scared.
	This is referring to Mike Pence.
	And I have to agree.
	I'm scared too.
	Remember, this is our official gay crusader.
	Yes, Governor Mike Pence did sign the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which potentially allowed for discrimination against LGBT individuals.
	However...
	the fact, yeah, I forgot to mention this again, that after the bill became law and concerns were voiced about the Religious Freedom Restoration Act enabling discrimination against gays, it was Governor Mike Pence who called on lawmakers to pass legislation clarifying that it was Governor Mike Pence who called on lawmakers to pass legislation clarifying that it does not allow business owners to Adam, did you know that Indiana law prohibits discrimination in state employment based on sexual orientation and identity.
	In Indiana, by law, you cannot be fired for being LGBT. And I think Brian should have clarified that does that mean you have to be lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender all at the same time, or just one of them?
	Anyway, if you work for the U.S. federal government, you can be fired simply for being LGBT, as there is no law that provides the same protections as Indiana.
	Did Mike Pence say dumb shit about LGBTs in the 90s?
	Yes.
	But who didn't?
	I love this guy.
	And then he goes on about how Hillary is horrible.
	While Trump's words may be murky about LGBT rights, the man hosted Elton John's wedding long before same-sex marriage was cool and he rolled out the red carpet at Trump Tower for Caitlyn Jenner to use the women's bathroom.
	With those two actions, Trump has done far more for LGBT people than Hillary has ever done.
	So Adam, I'm scared because despite the ability to fact-check these things at their fingertips, young people have no interest in doing anything that might allow them to discover that reality is different than what lobotomized talking heads suggest it is.
	Fact check, false.
	Thank you, Brian.
	A little twist-a-roo there in that letter.
	Nice, huh?
	Yeah.
	Well, thank you.
	That's why I'm scared.
	Good.
	Yeah, as a gay man in Chicago.
	There you go.
	If he were black and Jewish, it would be better.
	This is the best we can do.
	Hey, big news in Europe, in the Euro lands.
	We have elections going down.
	We got things taking place.
	And in Germany, Angela Merkel, Frau Merkel.
	It was re-elected to represent her party in upcoming elections, and, well, the way she did it is the way most politicians do.
	Angela Merkel says the burka should be banned in Germany, quote, wherever it is legally possible.
	She also toughened her stance on refugees, and she made the statements while bidding for a fourth term as chancellor at her ruling CDU party conference.
	Ah, there you go.
	So the lady who let him in is now saying, now kowtowing a bit to the dissatisfaction of the population.
	In Italy, on Sunday, there was the referendum, which I don't think we brought up.
	We talked about it very, very, very briefly.
	Very casually, yeah.
	We said we're going to do more.
	Well, here's a more clip.
	As promised, Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi has formally tendered his resignation to the President.
	His decision to step down after a crushing defeat in Sunday's referendum has plunged the country into turmoil, with the tension now turning to forming a new government.
	Consultations now get underway and are due to last until Saturday afternoon.
	The President reserved his decision and asked the government to remain in office to cover the current business.
	The head of state will start consultations with the political parties on December 8th, the schedule of which will be announced through the press office.
	President Mattarella is expected to ask a member of Renzi's Democratic Party to try and head up a caretaker government.
	However, many across the political spectrum are hoping for early elections.
	Speeding up the timetable could mean gains for anti-establishment parties that want to turn their backs on the euro, something which has Brussels on edge.
	Okay, I think this is rather important news.
	I think so.
	I fell asleep last night after like three seconds of DH Unplugged.
	Do you guys talk about it?
	A little bit.
	Okay.
	Well, what is the consensus financially when it comes to banks, the European Central Bank, the Euro?
	No, no.
	I have no clue.
	But thanks for asking.
	Yeah, well, I thought you might have an idea.
	Well, I'm going to have to ask my former New York banker then.
	I think it's worse than we think.
	Here's a clip.
	The stuff that definitely is not going to get reported over here.
	This is the clip that says, leaving EU Veneto.
	Well, Veneto is in the north of Italy.
	Although it makes up only 8% of the country's population, it is the third wealthiest region, contributing over 9% of national GDP. Veneto has long been pushing for independence.
	An unbinding referendum that was held two years ago showed that almost 90% of voters want to break away from Italy.
	Now, one of the issues Veneto wants to take control of is its tourist industry.
	Well, if they're talking about a...
	What is the Italian version of Brexit?
	I exit?
	I don't know.
	Basta.
	I think it's just called basta.
	Basta.
	Okay.
	Well, if we go on, there's even more action like this.
	I mean, And Veneto is not the only area in the EU that wants to break away.
	Spain's autonomous Basque region is also desperate to hold an independence referendum.
	Another Spanish region, Catalonia, has already held a number of local independence votes.
	However, Madrid branded all of them unconstitutional.
	The secessionist movement of the autonomous South Tyrell region of Italy is also pushing to break away, while in Germany, a Bavaria party claims the region would be better off out of the country and the EU. Their calls intensified after the independence vote in Scotland in 2014, which, even though it failed, still sent a strong signal across the rest of the EU. Huh.
	Huh.
	And you know the funny thing is, of all these places?
	Huh.
	The only one that doesn't seem to want to break away anymore is Quebec.
	They don't, huh?
	What happened to them?
	Hey, Quebecers, get your act together.
	I have an update on the Brexit.
	Some seemingly important decisions were made and things were voted on.
	And at the end of the report, you find out, well...
	Question.
	British MPs have voted to support the government's timetable for Brexit after a potential rebellion in the House of Commons was avoided.
	The government wants to trigger the divorce procedure by the end of March to set in motion formal negotiations.
	In a compromise move, it accepted an opposition Labour motion to publish a Brexit plan that Parliament can scrutinise.
	For months, Labour has been pressing the Prime Minister and the government to set out its plan for Brexit.
	Mr.
	Speaker, facing defeat on today's motion, the government has now caved in.
	The government has come under pressure to reveal details of its plan, critics say it hasn't got one, over issues such as potential access to the EU's single market.
	It still insists it can't give too much of its negotiating stance away.
	We will need to find a way through a vast number of competing interests to manage our exit from the Union so that our people benefit from it.
	That's the aim of this exercise, so that our people benefit from it.
	To do this, the government must have the flexibility to adjust during negotiations.
	This week in the Supreme Court, the government is appealing against a ruling that it alone cannot trigger Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty to begin the Brexit process, but needs Parliament's assent.
	Judgment is expected in January.
	Okay, so we're still at the same spot.
	Big noise, big running around, but, well, we're not going to do anything until you publish a timetable and a schedule of what you're going to do, and then we still have to decide whether we can actually do it.
	Well, I guess the courts got involved and said, you just can't just do this.
	You have to go through Parliament.
	Right.
	I don't see it not getting through Parliament, but they're making a big stink.
	I was watching Question Time this week, and they were making a big stink about the customs treaties.
	There's some treaty where they can let these shipping containers.
	We have the same thing going on in this country.
	Here's a question.
	Because they keep talking about divorce procedures...
	This is how the metaphor is there.
	Divorce.
	Divorce procedure.
	Do they think they'll carry the metaphor all the way through?
	Will there be alimony to be paid?
	Well, there's a $75 billion bill that supposedly the UK owns the EU that keeps cropping up.
	Ah, that's right.
	That's right.
	So I'm not sure how that's going to be dealt with.
	Well, who's the primary breadwinner?
	The EU or the UK? Okay.
	The way they've got it structured, they've like de-balled all these countries.
	Don't you think?
	They've taken all the fishing rights away from the UK and then given them to Norway and elsewhere.
	So everyone can have their own little thing.
	They were supposed to divvy up this new world they're creating.
	And Great Britain was assigned to be the financial center of everything.
	Yeah, yes.
	And you see that now they're moving to France, to Frankfurt, and to Amsterdam.
	A lot of banks are opening up subsidiaries.
	Right.
	Not quite the same.
	No, no.
	The real center of banking could have been Switzerland, but they refused to play this stupid game.
	But it's both Frankfurt and Amsterdam, both exchanges.
	They have some, but I think if they could move the whole thing to Liechtenstein, which is a banking operation, I think they would solve their problem.
	But right now, the Brits want to keep the banking thing going and say, well, we can still be the de facto bankers of the EU, not a problem.
	Man, this is a mess.
	They got themselves in too deep, and now they screwed themselves.
	Now we're talking about the bankers.
	Two clips, and I'll lead into one I saw you have.
	The first is regarding the Euribor interest rates, which were manipulated, as you'll recall.
	I have a question about this report.
	The European Commission has fined JPMorgan Chase, Credit Agricole and HSBC a total of 485 million euros for their alleged role in a cartel to fix the price of Euribor interest rates.
	The EC says the trio colluded to manipulate the financial benchmark.
	Today's final decision sends a clear message.
	That's for Haag, the anti-competition lady.
	I don't know why she's in charge of this.
	Banks, like all companies, have to respect EU competition rules.
	The commission found a series of chatroom messages between traders at the banks congratulating each other on their actions.
	It's still investigating foreign exchange trading.
	So here's my question.
	Now they fined them, half a billion.
	If they have the evidence of these guys with this illegal activity, why aren't they arresting them?
	They know who they are.
	They committed a crime.
	They're bankers.
	You don't arrest bankers.
	God, that's...
	Where's the protest?
	That's nuts.
	Oh, no, there's too many...
	No, you don't protest over that.
	You protest over Trump.
	Or...
	You might want to protest over this...
	This new thing that happened in Greece, we have...
	So the bankers came in and, you know, they've had austerity and all these deals and now they need some debt relief because, you know, there's just no way.
	And people are being squeezed, squeezed out of every penny they've got, every drachma.
	Of course, it's Euro cents.
	And I think that they're in worse trouble than ever.
	Eurozone finance ministers have agreed to a modicum of debt relief for struggling Greece.
	But there is division on the exact reforms required to hit fiscal targets.
	The Eurogroup has met to assess how far the country has advanced with reforms before the next tranche of loans are released.
	A second review looking at potential changes to Greek labour reform is still ongoing.
	Once the second review of the program is completed, and one way or another it will be completed, things will get better.
	We'll see an improvement in the investment environment, QE, a return to the financial...
	I think he said QE. Are they going to perform quantitative easing?
	He said QE? Well, they are doing QE in Europe, but it's pretty lame compared to what we did.
	Oh, I just felt like he was saying it was going to be about Greece itself.
	Improvement in the investment environment, QE, a return to the financial markets.
	In a couple of years, we'll feel this in our pockets.
	But don't get any ideas about prosperity.
	The ECB believes that the 3.5% target for the budget surplus excluding debt servicing costs is achievable within the bailout time frame.
	Maylina Tugtido is our correspondent in Athens.
	Well, in this case I would say the devil is in the numbers, a very specific number in particular.
	I'm talking about the commitment of a 3.5% primary surplus in the medium term, which means at least until 2021.
	Why is this a problem?
	Because numbers are very hard to manipulate.
	It is totally different to say I will reform my economy, I will become more competitive, I will return to sustainable finances, like the memorandums have been saying until now.
	There are many ways to go around and find alternatives to achieve these goals, but a 3.5% surplus says that even if the economy grows as fast as the government hopes, still the state will be sucking in more revenue that it gives out.
	I don't think there's a single member of the European Union who has adhered to the 3.5%, and now part of the deal is Greece has to do that?
	Not going to happen.
	No, it's not going to happen.
	Of course not.
	Nobody else does.
	They do fudge the numbers.
	Well, my story about Greece is different.
	Ah, actually.
	My clip is about the outrageous riots going on as we speak that no news media in this country wants to touch.
	Violent clashes between protesters and authorities have taken place overnight in central Athens following a peaceful march marking the anniversary of a teenager's death at the hands of police eight years ago.
	Dozens of demonstrators wearing masks through Molotov cocktails and firecrackers at riot police.
	Similar clashes also took place in Greece's second largest city, Thessaloniki.
	Crowds gathered to commemorate 15-year-old Alexandros Grigoropoulos, who was killed by two police officers in 2008.
	Back then, his death triggered the worst riots Greece had seen in decades, and as we can see, emotions there are still strong.
	A former British diplomat, Professor William Mallinson, says couple anniversary emotions with frustration of the government, and people are acting out.
	Yeah, why would we cover that?
	That's no good.
	We have Trump riots.
	Yeah.
	You don't want that.
	Oh, man.
	I got a note that I wanted to share with the group.
	We've received many reports about millennials having issues with seeing people eat or hearing people eat or drink certain liquids.
	What are these reports?
	We've talked about it in the past.
	Remind me.
	I don't remember.
	Lip smacking is a big deal, which has come up on this show.
	Your mouth opens a good one.
	There's some phobia.
	The tongue comes out.
	My favorite.
	These kids are getting triggered by this stuff.
	To do what?
	Do they pee in their pants?
	What kind of trigger are we talking about?
	You know, triggered where they go, they get all weirded out.
	You know, like with the hexagrams.
	Hexagons.
	The same idea.
	Weirded out.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, title of a note regarding our sound quality millennial safe podcast.
	This is from Karsa.
	She says, Adam, I just wanted to tell you how much I appreciate the work you put into the sound quality of your show.
	Ah, as a sufferer of misphonia, there it is, look it up, misphonia, M-Y-S-P-H-O-N-I-A. Hold on.
	I told you there was...
	Let's get set the book of knowledge and read the definition.
	Here we go.
	Misphonia, literally, hatred of sound, was proposed in 2000 as a condition in which negative emotions, thoughts, and physical reactions are triggered by specific sounds.
	It is also called Select Sound Sensitivity Syndrome and Sound Rage.
	Misphonia has no classification as an auditory, neurological, or psychiatric condition.
	There are no standard diagnostic criteria.
	It is not recognized in the DSM-IV, which, by the way, everybody recognizes.
	Everything can get in the DSM-IV. ICD-10, which is the codes, and there's little research on its prevalence or treatment.
	However, proponents suggest misphonia can adversely affect ability to achieve life goals and enjoy social situations.
	Do you want to hear more about this?
	Oh yeah, I'm all in on this one.
	Signs and symptoms.
	As of 2016, the literature on misphonia was very limited.
	Some small studies show that people with misphonia generally have strong negative feelings, thoughts, and physical reactions to specific sounds, which the literature calls trigger sounds.
	These sounds are apparently usually soft, but can be loud.
	One study found that 80% of the sounds were related to the mouth, eating, yawning, etc.
	And about 60% were repetitive.
	A visual trigger...
	I got one.
	What?
	It triggers me.
	What?
	Somebody takes a big glass of water and then they go...
	You do that.
	No, I don't.
	Yeah.
	Really?
	Yeah, that's it.
	That's it.
	Did I trigger you?
	Yes, I'm triggered now.
	I'm getting all weirded out.
	Hold on.
	I love that.
	Okay.
	But what's interesting is that it appears that a misphonic reaction can occur also in the absence of an actual sound.
	This is crazy.
	That sound is triggering me that you're making there.
	It should.
	It's designed for that.
	Let me see if we have anything else here.
	Mechanism, diagnosis, management.
	Anyway, so I'll go back to my email.
	I wanted to tell you how much I appreciate the work that you put into the sound quality of your show.
	As a sufferer of misphonia, no agenda is a rare gleaming gem in a sea of diarrhea.
	Oh, God.
	That's a bumper sticker.
	There you go.
	A rare gleaming gem in a sea of diarrhea.
	It sounds like a bullshit millennial condition, I know, but it's unfortunately all too real.
	I am generally an easygoing person, but certain high-frequency sounds, such as lip-smacking or loud chewing, fill me with an intense and completely irrational desire to attack the source or flee the scene.
	I love audio.
	I work making high-end speakers where I listen to eight hours of podcasts and audiobooks all day and I don't stop when I get home.
	Yes.
	Stop.
	Can we get a discount?
	I'm sure.
	However, very few podcasters take the time to learn anything about sound.
	It seems they just go find an expensive microphone, then point it at their yappers and go.
	The result is that it sounds like my ear is located inside their mouths for the whole show.
	I can't.
	I can hear Molyneux every clicking motion of his tongue as the saliva crackles during a dramatic pause.
	And I can hear the spit building up in Rogan's mouth followed by his hurried midward gulps as he tries to continue the rant without pause.
	It sucks, but in order to tolerate these and other podcasts that I love, I have to turn on an equalizer and cut out any frequency above 1000 Hz.
	Well, that, by the way...
	Is a good tip?
	We could sell misphobia, misphonia filters.
	Yeah.
	It's easy.
	It's a cheap filter to do with thousands.
	Yeah.
	And you just plug one into your iPhone, the other into your earbuds.
	Yeah, and then you hear something like, let me see.
	I've got to get the right thing to do this right.
	Okay, let me try this.
	Then it sounds like this.
	No, hold on, hold on.
	Just talk normal.
	Just talk normal for a second.
	Talk normal.
	Okay, now you can...
	Adam, are you there?
	Because I've got this new device that's making it sound a little different.
	Yeah, no, I fixed it.
	It sounds great, John.
	I bet you did.
	You sound great.
	The no agenda misphonia filter.
	Anyway, but no, not no agenda.
	Listening to you feels like buttery smooth chocolate being poured into my ears, coating my soul.
	Instead of making me want to stab up my eardrums with a pencil.
	If only the world would follow in your footsteps.
	Much love from Karsa.
	Once again, proof we truly are the best podcast in the universe.
	I'm going to show myself a little by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	We do have a few people to thank for show 884.
	And let's start thanking them.
	Paul Polchek, I'm guessing, in Camberwell, West Victoria, Australia.
	$180.
	Rosanna Oglesby, who's got a birthday call-out for someone, San Angelo, Texas.
	Well, wait a minute.
	There's even more.
	She wants a donation to go to her husband's knighthood.
	Also want to wish him a happy birthday and call him out as a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	Wow.
	Again!
	According to her, he has deduced himself once after I called him out for not donating.
	He hasn't donated since.
	Oh, no.
	Even...
	Even though I keep telling him he should, because I love him, I'd like to also give him some karma.
	Thanks for, Andrew, karma for him at the end.
	Yes.
	Thank you.
	Very nice.
	Joshua Defabo in San Francisco, California.
	Hey, he'll be a knight?
	He will be a knight.
	He wants to be...
	He says something funny.
	He says, I'm optimistic that Trump will work out and Adam can come out as a Trump sexual.
	Do you think that might be an insult?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Now we have a little grouping of 88.88 well-wishers.
	Yep.
	88, 88, 88, yep.
	Four mere of them.
	Oscar...
	Quiroga II somewhere in the U.S. Tim Connor in Edmonton, Alberta.
	Sir Mike Wakefield somewhere.
	And Dame Pamela Haag in Allegheny, New York.
	Those are our four well-wishers.
	Thomas 88.84 in Frankfurt, Germany.
	Boob.
	Yeah.
	Roger Boots in Mechanicsville, Iowa is Boob80.08 and Todd Rathkamp, 80.08.
	We don't have a lot of...
	And he has a call out.
	He says, please call out Corey Rathkamp as a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	I thought I raised a son, but may have gotten a freeloading millennial.
	Hey, try smacking in his ear with your lips.
	Yawning in his face.
	Or doing...
	There's a whole Larry David Curb Your Enthusiasm episode about that specific thing.
	it would be like this you got it mixed up there John Hamilton in Carlsbad, California, 69-61.
	Robert Gusick in High Point, North Carolina.
	55-10.
	That's double nickels on the dime to you.
	Koubarius Kerner.
	Koubarius or Koubarius Kerner in Philadelphia.
	53-17.
	Michael Gates.
	52-80.
	Parts unknown.
	Christopher Trop in Sturgis, Michigan.
	Hey, Sturgis.
	Hog Heaven.
	Isn't that Sturgis?
	Is that the right Sturgis?
	Oh, no.
	Not Michigan.
	No, I don't think it is.
	I think the Sturgis we're talking about is an ah.
	They should get rid of Sturgis, Michigan.
	That's lame.
	No, they should have the event there.
	They should steal the event.
	I think that they're culpable under the Lanham Act.
	Gene Ablin in Sonora, California.
	These are all $50 donors, name and location.
	Gene Ablin in Sonora, California, $50.
	Jonathan Meyer in Xenia, Ohio.
	Tim Abel in Bergfield, Berkshire, UK. Edward Mazurik in Memphis, Tennessee.
	Beaumont Proudfoot in Hallidays Point, New South Wales, Australia.
	Adam DeMuy in Milton, Florida.
	Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
	That's Sir Adam of the...
	Gee, he didn't put it on his donation note again.
	He's the guy that complained about it.
	Well, there's nothing here on the notes.
	Sir Adam of the Coke Empire.
	Sir Adam of the Coke Empire.
	Well, we'll remember it eventually.
	Because we do remember Sir Alan Bean of Oakland.
	There you go.
	And he's the last on the list and that'll be it for today's show.
	A little short but sweet for show 884.
	Yes.
	Four more shows.
	We got 88888.
	Man, how awesome is that?
	It's unbelievable.
	It's the only time it will ever happen.
	A little promo here.
	There's going to be a Los Angeles meetup.
	It's going to be a Los Angeles meetup.
	On December 26th at 5.30pm.
	The day after Christmas.
	Yes, or some call it the second day of Christmas.
	Then you can get info at CitizenBeverlyHills.com.
	Okay.
	We'll have more.
	I'm going to send a couple emails.
	Is that because you're going to be there?
	Is that why?
	Yes, the whole family's going to be there.
	Eric DeShield's going to be there.
	Buzzkill Jr.'s going to be there.
	Oh, man.
	Eric's kids should be there.
	Oh, man.
	I got Christina coming in, so I can't come.
	That's okay.
	You just did the other promo.
	Yeah, but I haven't seen you in three years.
	Yeah, fantastic.
	Yeah, you're right.
	That is fantastic.
	I'm loving it.
	I want to thank everyone who supported the show today in all the ways that you do.
	And I want to say I was very proud yesterday when I was talking to Max Kaiser about our value-for-value model.
	He was blown away by it.
	Not that he isn't familiar with it, because we know he listens, but he's a douche because he doesn't donate.
	Oh, he never donates.
	No, he's a douche.
	Although he's a big tipper.
	Is he?
	Yeah, cash.
	Pays with $100 bills.
	Big tipper.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	He didn't pay with Bitcoin?
	No.
	Strangely, that was so odd.
	I didn't see that at all.
	And what else was I going to say?
	Yeah, so, you know, I just talked about how people have come up with the boob donation.
	And, you know, it's an impressive thing we're all a part of.
	And I appreciate that everyone continues to see the value and to give us value in the many forms that you do.
	And, of course, another show coming up on Sunday.
	Dvorak.org.
	Slash N. And those that's who need it, here's some karma.
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	Boom.
	It's your birthday, birthday.
	Oh, no, I'm not.
	And Dame Pamela Hag says happy birthday to Christy Mutchinstorm.
	Roseanne Oglesby says happy birthday to her husband Tyler Oglesby, celebrating tomorrow's Sir Chris Vox birthday.
	And we have related birthday going out to Allison, who turned 25 last week.
	Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the Best Podcast in the Universe!
	My voice is going a little bit.
	I don't know why.
	We have some title changes.
	Why don't we do the title changes up front first?
	We congratulate Sir Chris Bach of the Brewers Guild, who becomes Baron of the Quinnipiac Valley.
	Baron of the Quinnipiac Valley.
	There you go.
	That'll be updated on our peerage map, itm.im slash peerage.
	And SirLadyFingers becomes a baronetess.
	Baronet?
	Baronetess?
	I think it's Baronetess today.
	And we congratulate her.
	So we need blades for our two...
	Hello?
	Blades.
	Got it.
	Got it.
	Coming.
	All right, up on the stage, Kevin Anderson, please join us.
	And Joshua Deffenbaugh, please join us.
	Take your spot here in front of the podium here at the lectern.
	Both of you have contributed to the best podcast in the universe in the amount of $1,000 or more.
	And therefore, I am very, very proud to pronounce the Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	And you are Sir Vicks of the Hot African Bush and Sir Jofty.
	Gentlemen, for you, we've got hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay.
	We've got espresso and hemp milk.
	We have cheap wine and chili dogs, video games and vaporizers.
	We have malted barley and hops.
	We got librarians and Jager bombs, opium and warm, orange juice, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts.
	Wow.
	Ginger ale and gerbils, and I'm Alex Jones now!
	We'll buy some seeds!
	Wow.
	That was going to South.
	You need a drink of something.
	Yeah, I haven't.
	I think you need a drink of glycerin.
	You know what the problem is?
	I ran out of my water an hour ago, and you haven't had a clip long enough for me to run to the kitchen and get one.
	Oh, I've got some long clips then.
	But I also want to mention that our brand new night should go to noagendanation.com slash rings and pick up, or actually give Eric the shill all of your details.
	Indeed.
	Okay.
	Oh man, oh man, oh man.
	Yeah.
	I don't know how it happens.
	It just happens.
	So you and I both talked a little bit about this.
	We have no clips.
	About that girl, Tommy.
	Tommy.
	Tommy Lahren.
	Yeah.
	I like her.
	I like her.
	I like her a lot.
	She's 24.
	She's got a career ahead of her if she had the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group, which you can find at currydvorak.com.
	Did you see that?
	Yeah, it was dynamite.
	I'd forgotten about it.
	It's been around for a while, I think.
	Yeah, it's paid off.
	Yeah.
	Phone hasn't stopped ringing.
	So she's 20.
	The keeper ran into her once, I think.
	Yeah, when we were in New York, she ran into her in the bathroom.
	Yeah.
	And said, hey, you look a lot like Tommy.
	To which she said, yes, I am.
	Well, I always thought she was kind of pleasant.
	And I'm sorry, and you'll recall that we were sitting in this bar area and having coffee, but Tina didn't tell me that she'd run into her in the bathroom until after we left.
	Yeah, she didn't want you to run in there.
	I don't care what it says on the door.
	LGBT rights!
	Alright, yeah, what about Tommy?
	Well, she got lambasted by...
	I would say she had an unfair interview by Noah.
	Trevor Noah, yeah.
	And he's like, what is the point of...
	What kind of a host are you?
	Unless you're doing one of those shows.
	I mean, there are certain shows where you do...
	And someone does a lot or has done a lot of interviews, I can say.
	I have some concept of how this works.
	If you're doing a comedy show, you're not doing one of those shows where you bring somebody and set them up and then skewer them.
	Well, you sent me the link to New York Times review of that interview.
	The New York Times, what a horrible piece they published.
	I mean, they, apparently, Trevor Noah came out first before she was, and she was still in the dressing room before the taping of the show, and he said, hey, you know, I want you to be respectful, I've got Tommy Lauren on, and, but, you know, just pretend it's like your racist uncle's coming over for dinner on Thanksgiving.
	What is that?
	Yeah, really.
	What an ass.
	But this New York Times article, we should probably link to it in the show notes.
	Yeah, I have it in the show notes.
	I do.
	It has...
	This article is almost calling for people to go shoot the woman.
	Yeah, do you have it there?
	You want to just read a piece?
	I'm looking at it.
	Just about halfway through.
	I'll just read it randomly.
	It's all bad.
	Miss Lauren is frequently denied being racist.
	Hey, you still beating your wife?
	Seriously, what kind of a sense is this?
	She's frequently denied being racist.
	In the interview with New York Times last week, she condemned the fringe movement known as alt-right, which espouses white nationalism and anti-Semitism, calling it disgusting.
	And she would never be an advocate, a cheerleader, or an apologist for the KKK or any other group, unquote.
	This is a classic...
	This is a hit piece.
	It is.
	I mean, the structure of it is a hit piece.
	It's a lot of innuendo.
	Well, she never said she was, you know, this...
	I can just...
	The structure of it.
	People should read this, because for one thing, it's extremely long.
	It prints out to three pages of small, tight, single space.
	John, why do you think...
	The New York Times went to this degree of writing about this, for all intents and purposes, a YouTube star.
	Although I think she's on a different level and doing different things, but comparable in big view numbers, etc.
	Why are they doing this?
	Are they worried about her?
	Trump's team did not respond to a request for comment.
	What's it got to do with Trump?
	Oh, she said, Ms.
	Lawrence says she was a former advisor to Mr.
	Trump's campaign on its use of social media starting in August, and she appeared on the campaign's behalf via Facebook live broadcast in the final weeks before the election.
	She has about 3.5 million followers, it's threatening, on Facebook and over 800,000 cumulatively on Twitter and Instagram.
	Well, that doesn't count the way they put it.
	She's open to opportunities to be on the blaze, including anything that might involve Mr.
	Trump, Mr.
	Trump's team.
	This is good.
	They say, well, she wants to work for Trump from the sounds of the way they've set it up.
	So she says she wants to work for Trump.
	And she doesn't say that, by the way, but that's the way they...
	Well, that's like calling me, was it a Trump sexual or something?
	A Trump sexual.
	Now, the next graph, and it's not just a normal graph, it's a standalone.
	You said graph?
	Oh, yeah.
	Paragraphs are referred to as graphs.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	G-R-A-F. What's the sitch with your graph?
	No, that's not the reason you do it.
	It's not the sitch about anything.
	There's things that you use in writing.
	That are purposely spelled screwy.
	And graph is one of them.
	Lead.
	Lead.
	Yeah, that's another one.
	It's L-E-D-E. And then there's a thing called...
	Sometimes there's a second thing to the title.
	Just out of curiosity, why?
	Is paragraph too much for journalists?
	The reason is you want to get used to using graph, G-R-A-F, because you might put it like you might be doing some copy editing and you put a little line, the should be here, and then you would make a little mark and say new graph, G-R-A-F. It's purposely misspelled because then if somebody actually writes it into the copy, new graph.
	Okay, I gotcha.
	It stands out because it's misspelled.
	Gotcha.
	So it's to prevent stupid crap from going into the copy, like the word L-E-D-E, as opposed to L-E-A-D, which would go in there and then you have this stupid word in there.
	Got it.
	So that's why.
	Thank you.
	Okay, now you know.
	And that's the reason.
	It's not from some cynical reason you implied.
	Wait, another tip from the No Agenda Show.
	It's another tip.
	People should know this.
	Every once in a while, somebody will write me a note saying, I think in your first graph, and they spell it that way, J-R-A-F. Member of the club.
	They're either in the industry.
	Yes, member of the academy.
	That's right.
	I love your work, man.
	So here they come out again.
	She says, you open to opportunities for Trump.
	Then they do a standalone graph.
	And it's a one sentence.
	It's all by itself.
	Then you go to another graph.
	And this one says, Mr.
	Trump's team did not respond to a request for a comment.
	What is that in there for?
	Just to connect her to Trump.
	Hello?
	No, it's in there to show that they're not interested in her.
	She's a low-life sleazeball.
	Oh, well, there's that.
	This was put in there for a reason.
	Here's what the argument would be.
	Oh, my editor wanted me to call Trump to verify that they were interested in her.
	She never said they were interested in her.
	She said she was interested in them.
	There's no reason to call them.
	Right.
	No, of course not.
	But they did anyway, or yeah, they did anyway, so they could just slam her.
	This is a hit piece.
	It's one of the worst I've read.
	And it's shameful.
	It's dangerous.
	It's dangerous.
	It is dangerous.
	I almost call him to her again.
	Jonah Engel Bromwich.
	Who the hell is this?
	Who is Jonah?
	I don't know who Jonah is.
	But he writes on the media.
	Anyway, this piece is overwritten for one thing.
	But this is a hit piece.
	It's uncalled for.
	Uncalled for.
	And the only reason was because she's a right winger.
	Oh, heaven forbid we have any of these people expressing their opinions.
	Right.
	Enough, enough, enough.
	I like her.
	She's grown on me.
	I like her.
	She's grown on me, for sure.
	Well, speaking of Trevor Noah.
	Sanctimoniously smug.
	Yes, the sanctimoniously smug Trevor Noah, who I presume he's on an O-1 visa here in the United States.
	He's from South Africa.
	So 01 is if you have special talent.
	I'm sure he's not a citizen.
	So he may have a green card at this point.
	But he probably has an 01.
	He's been doing the show how long?
	How many years?
	One year?
	Two years?
	He's probably a resident.
	He probably has a green card.
	But...
	His sanctimoniously smug explanation of what is wrong with the Electoral College is something we need to share.
	The whole clip is much longer, but I took out, you know, just to give you a little taste, just a little taste, a little taste of what it's like with Trev.
	The holidays are right around the corner, and because Donald Trump is going to be president, Santa can't come to America anymore because he's a flying immigrant with a beard.
	And it's still hard to get used to the fact that Donald Trump will be president, especially because he lost by two and a half million votes.
	You already got to love how it starts off.
	Yeah, and of course those two and a half million votes all come from California.
	And by the way, Trevor Noah should be kissing Tommy Lahren's ass because he's finally on the map.
	He's finally on the map.
	Skewered.
	Roasted.
	Slammed.
	Butt slam!
	Huge ratings on the show.
	So he should be happy.
	Oh, he got a huge rating so people tuned in to see her?
	Yeah.
	The thing was triple the ratings or something.
	Wow.
	That's impactful.
	That wasn't mentioned in the New York Times article that I can see.
	No.
	Maybe I overlooked it.
	All right, back to Mr.
	Sanctimoniously Smug about the Electoral College.
	And as we know, of course, Donald Trump didn't actually win because he lost the election.
	And it's still hard.
	It's still hard to get used to the fact that Donald Trump will be president, especially because he lost by two and a half million votes.
	But then he won the electoral college, which is all that matters.
	It's almost like being in a relationship.
	You know how in relationships, quality time matters more than the quantity of time.
	Like you'll get into fights like, why are you so angry?
	I hung out with you all weekend!
	She'd be like, yeah, but you spent hours sleeping!
	You're like, it was night!
	And then all of a sudden it doesn't count.
	And if you're like me, you probably thought that on election day, Americans were going to the polls to elect a president.
	But if you did vote, your vote didn't go to Clinton or Trump or the best third-party candidate out there, Harambe.
	He may be dead, my friends, but at least he knows where Aleppo is.
	When people voted, they were actually voting for electors, who are basically a bunch of locally appointed representatives who then vote on your behalf, which again, makes no sense to me.
	Do you understand how weird that is?
	That's like going to a deli, but for some reason you can't order for yourself.
	You're just there at the counter like, hey, can I have a sandwich?
	And then there's some guy who's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I got this.
	Hey, can he have a sandwich?
	So that means it's like going to a restaurant, sitting down, and telling the waiter what you want to get.
	Yes.
	His reasoning is flawed.
	I just find it very interesting that he's excoriating our system, but with really dumb arguments.
	Hey, can he have a sandwich?
	Yes.
	It's a bizarre twist on an already bizarre system.
	Because there are two ways to pick a president.
	There's giving it to the person with the most votes, commonly known as democracy.
	Uh, which we don't have.
	We are a federal republic.
	And then there's how America does it.
	Now, if that sounded confusing, that's because it f***ing is.
	The person with more votes should win.
	Wait, hold on a second.
	That sounded confusing?
	No, I'm sorry.
	I cut out a whole bunch of...
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	It sounded more apparent or less apparent when I put it together.
	He put a bunch of clips together, people saying, well, that shouldn't happen in a democracy.
	But I wanted to shorten the clip.
	Yeah, democracy.
	It f***ing is.
	The person with more votes should win.
	This is a weird system because no other country decides elections this way.
	It's even weird in America.
	You understand that?
	You don't elect mayors like this in America.
	You don't elect governors like this.
	You don't even elect idols like this.
	The presidency is the only office where for some reason you don't trust the popular votes.
	And by the way, it's not about Trump.
	You know this system is broken because the person with more votes lost in two of the last five elections.
	That's 40%.
	40%.
	If a plumber told me that every time I flushed my toilets, there'd be a 40% chance it would spray back at me.
	I'd be like, maybe I need a new toilet.
	But America's like, I've had this toilet for 200 years.
	I'll be fine.
	I'll be fine.
	You know, this, by the way, I'm not offended by it, but it's racist, what he's doing here.
	Are you doing a white man?
	Is that what you're doing?
	A white man who flushes the toilet and shit sprays in your face?
	Is that the joke, Trevor Noah?
	Seriously?
	Is that how low you have to go?
	An audience, you're hysterically laughing about this?
	But America's like, I've had this toilet for 200 years.
	I'll be fine.
	I'll be fine.
	Trump!
	Trump!
	Oh, that was horrible.
	All right, next election.
	And he just goes on.
	So we're comparing the electoral college to a shit-spewing toilet.
	Thanks.
	What arrogance.
	This is a total douche.
	Unbelievable.
	Ugh.
	Oh!
	Sanctimoniously smug.
	Just when you thought they couldn't come up with more ways to make Donald Trump sound like an a-hole, an unprepared...
	I mean, he's not prepared.
	We know this, John.
	I mean, this is fact, right?
	In a post-fact world, we know the fact is, the factor of the matter, at the end of the day...
	Fact check right.
	Is it fact check false?
	Fact check true.
	Fact check true.
	At the end of the day, you know, he doesn't want his security briefings, doesn't give a crap, doesn't listen to anybody, and this is going to ruin the whole inauguration, according to Chris Matthews of MSNBC. You know, Ted, speaking of show business, you know, it used to be when guys got elected president, they were all guys and still are, I guess.
	They used to practice dancing because the inaugural event, the balls, you have to go to all the balls, five or seven or whatever, and you have to dance in front of everybody.
	That's always hard, even at a wedding, especially at a wedding, you have to dance in front of a bunch of people.
	And my generation grew up with basically...
	You go get a drink or two before you go dancing.
	You don't exactly learn to dance.
	Now here you have Donald Trump, who I don't know if he can dance or not.
	Certainly the last two presidents couldn't.
	W would come out to do this sort of idiotic two-step.
	It was ridiculous.
	He pretended to dance.
	And I have to say Barack Obama, who I generally support, came out to do something like the Freddy.
	I don't think that was even a dance.
	I don't know what it was.
	It was another one-step thing just for the cameras.
	Apologies for the audio.
	But you get the idea.
	And they went on for four minutes arguing whether he could dance or not.
	It was a time killer.
	What was the point of this?
	And it's sexist.
	It's sexist.
	Did Hillary know how to dance?
	Did Michelle know how to dance?
	It is sexist.
	Sexist, sexist.
	Excuse me, princess.
	Yeah, sexist.
	Texas pig.
	A happy note came to me.
	We rag on the Scandinavians sometimes because I have a feeling sometimes I think they're better than we are.
	Oh, they always think that.
	Police Department in Canada has officially apologized to Nickelback for threatening to make drunk drivers listen to their songs.
	I'll clap for Canada on that one.
	That's great.
	Nickelback.
	Put the headphones on and crank up Nickelback.
	You're not gonna win.
	Alright, let's talk a little bit about some bigger stories.
	In fact, they have a Gay-Anne.
	Gay-Anne.
	We talked a little bit about this.
	This is a John Kerry-Lavrov fiasco, and it'll be part one.
	But we talked about, they did some sort of a deal, supposedly.
	It was during the last show.
	Yeah, they had some secret talks or something.
	They had some talks, and then they agreed on a paper, and it was submitted, we're going to do this this way.
	And somebody said, well, gee, this is kind of what the Russians wanted to do.
	And so we end up with this kind of a story that evolves from this.
	And it reminds me, by the way, when you hear this clip, it reminds me of the way Obama does business.
	If you remember, a couple of years ago, Obama did a deal with Boehner when Boehner was running the Congress.
	Yeah, this was the golf course deal?
	It was one of these deals where they agreed on something.
	It had to do with the budget or something like that.
	And Boehner took it to his people because it was ready to go and he got everyone to agree on something.
	And then Obama reneged.
	I think it's reneged.
	Yeah.
	He's not reneged?
	No.
	Well, he reneged.
	You're racist.
	No, I'm not racist.
	You said reneged.
	That's racist.
	I guess.
	So Obama backed out of the deal at the last minute and embarrassed Boehner.
	Yes, I recall.
	And Bainer, there's a whole front line on this, by the way, the entire front line on this.
	And Bainer was bent out of shape and never would trust Obama again because it was an humiliation of some sort.
	I think that's what he does.
	And I think this would happen here.
	Play part one.
	We, the public, are now left guessing what happened to the proposal that Secretary Kerry put forward last week, which, according to the Russian foreign minister Lavrov, would ensure the withdrawal of all militants from eastern Aleppo.
	Foreign Minister Lavrov said that proposal was in line with Russian I'm sorry to interrupt.
	What do you think a technical meeting is?
	is they talk about you know javascript and pearl that's it i think it's the nuts and bolts we're going to do this man you're going to do that man is details okay so there's a quick follow-up this was last week This Tuesday, Foreign Minister Lavrov said the U.S. suddenly pulled its proposal.
	Considering the negotiations on Aleppo, they're like something out of a mystery novel.
	On December 2nd, John Kerry asked me to support a particular document passed on to us by the Americans.
	The document is in line with our stance.
	The next day, we make a public announcement and suggest arranging a meeting with the Americans.
	Yesterday, we suddenly received a message from them saying they're not able to meet tomorrow because they've changed their minds.
	They're revoking the document, and now they have a new one, which seems to bring everything back to square one.
	Once again, buying time for the militants so they can replenish their supplies.
	I went to ask the State Department what happened to the talks and to this reported proposal.
	Here.
	What is the status of those talks?
	Why were the meetings, as I understand the meetings, certain meetings that were due to happen this week were canceled?
	What happened?
	Sure.
	I mean, again, we're just not getting too much into the details or the substance.
	We're just not at a point yet...
	Where we can say that getting together to have these talks would be constructive.
	When we get there, we'll do it.
	And I'm not trying to be...
	I'm not trying to be mysterious.
	serious.
	I'm just saying I'm not going to get in the substance of our diplomatic discussions.
	Okay, nice.
	Unbelievable.
	Yeah.
	By the way, I'm looking it up.
	Both words are in play.
	Reneged and reneged.
	They're both the same?
	They have the same meaning?
	Reneged and reneged?
	Yep.
	I would say we have to remove this word from the...
	Oh yeah, you're right.
	We can't be running around saying reneged about the black president.
	Racist.
	Well, there you have it.
	The chat room exploded because I didn't know that reneged was one version of the word.
	It was funny.
	Thank you chat rooms for giving it to him.
	Calls me out.
	Alright, so this deal is like, obviously, and Kerry wrote it up, and it was all ready to go, and so I guess Kerry's just a stooge.
	Duh!
	I guess I'm dumb not to know this.
	Duh!
	But let's play the second part, and we figured out, it turns out to be Susan Rice, and the other woman at the UN, and all these little...
	Samantha Powers.
	...ankle biters.
	Yeah, Samantha Powers.
	The Department is tight-lipped about the dynamics inside the administration.
	I asked its spokesman Mark Toner to comment on Foreign Minister Lavrov's suggestion that there are, quote-unquote, apparently plenty of those who wanted to undermine John Kerry's practical steps, he said.
	But Mr.
	Toner refused to weigh in on that.
	It should be noted, this Monday, the U.S. pushed a ceasefire resolution through the U.N., which Russia vetoed, citing a pending agreement between Foreign Minister Lavrov and Secretary Kerry.
	One has to wonder, what happened to that agreement?
	Who did not agree with whom?
	Perhaps inside the Obama administration.
	We asked former CIA and State Department employee Larry Johnson why an agreement with Russia remains just out of reach.
	I have no doubt that Secretary Kerry, if he talked about it, I think he was sincere in trying to...
	The problem he faces is he doesn't really have the full clout and weight of President Obama behind him.
	There are others in the Obama administration which have opposed that kind of approach and see that as a sign of weakness.
	So I think, again, it just reflects the...
	The chaotic nature of Barack Obama's presidency.
	And this goes to the point that, you know, Samantha Power is close with Susan Rice and close with Ben Rhodes.
	So they reflect sort of one camp within the Obama administration.
	John Kerry reflects another camp.
	There's also, they have the strong backing of my former organization, it would appear, the CIA, in terms of wanting to continue to support the rebels.
	But the unfortunate reality is that those rebels tend, by and large, to be radical Islamists, the very terrorists that the entire war on terror that started 15 years ago was supposed to defeat.
	Right.
	I think they're making a huge mistake right now.
	From what I understand, we are currently not resupplying the rebels, and they're begging for stuff.
	And, you know, what's going to happen is Turkey's in there and they're going to come in and say, hey, how about all this groovy gear and go shoot these guys?
	You know, the Kurds.
	Yes, there could be something like that.
	Huge, huge mistakes being made.
	But I think also that if you're going to go back, let's go back to the early theory or thesis that ISIS and ISIL and Daesh or whatever you want to call them, advertising...
	Are really a creation of the CIA. Correct.
	And Mossad.
	And that's why, and I don't believe if that's true, that Kerry was ever read in on this.
	Oh, okay.
	So he's just out there making deals and everyone's laughing at him.
	Yeah, everyone back at home, you know, the Susan Rice's powers in the CIA itself, according to the ex-CIA guy.
	They go, geez, we gotta stop this guy.
	He's screwing things up.
	We have a master plan.
	That's the only thing that could be.
	Hmm.
	Well, we're not doing a very good job right now with all that.
	No, it's a mess.
	It really is.
	Less than ten minutes to go.
	Ah, yes.
	Okay?
	Alright, okay.
	Ten minute warning.
	President Obama did his, I guess it'll be his big final send-off speech, the big one.
	The big one with lots of echo on his voice.
	He asserted some interesting claims.
	We've launched a global engagement center to empower voices that are countering ISIL's perversion of Islam.
	And we're working closely with Muslim-majority partners from the Gulf to Southeast Asia.
	This is your work.
	We should take great pride in the progress that we've made over the last eight years.
	That's the bottom line.
	No foreign terrorist organization has successfully planned and executed an attack on our homeland.
	Fact check false.
	Hello?
	What?
	What was that?
	What?
	He says in the past.
	Yeah, but back that up.
	Play it again.
	He's talking about the past.
	Wait, so he said denying Pearl Harbor.
	No, no, past eight years, John.
	During his presidency.
	Oh, the past eight years.
	This is his legacy tour.
	Okay, so during his watch, nothing's happened.
	So in other words, these little incidents that took place in Times Square and Santa Barbara and the crazy stuff that went down in Texas.
	Those are lone wolves.
	I don't understand how he can assert this claim.
	Well, let's play it again.
	We should take great pride in the progress that we've made over the last eight years.
	That's the bottom line.
	No foreign terrorist organization has successfully planned and executed an attack on our homeland.
	Thanks, Obama.
	I think that's...
	I don't think you can claim that, honestly.
	Well, you got the Orlando shooting.
	You have...
	I mean, I think you can claim it.
	Well, maybe because he says foreign, I guess, but I don't know.
	Yeah, and these guys are just lone wolves.
	I'm sure he's got it all locked up legally.
	There was one other thing.
	Legally, it's not an illegal thing to say.
	No, well, you know what I mean.
	A question came up at the White House spokeshole press briefing, and I have found out that, indeed, if you can set up audacity for Josh Earnest specifically, what you want to do is set the values to 0.3 seconds of silence, And then you want it to set it around 40 dB.
	And that way it will automatically strip out every long silence the guy leaves whenever he's answering a question.
	Because this clip was six minutes long.
	I'm not kidding.
	Down to a minute and a half, including the question.
	The president, yesterday, in his remarks, talked about Ron Toneville, that a person hundreds of millions spent to keep 59 guys there, flatten our national conscience, but he stopped short of saying that he's actually going to shut the place down before he keeps.
	Was this?
	And final, you know, sort of coming to terms with the fact that the prison's going to stay open after he leaves office.
	Well, listen, we have been deeply dismayed at the obstacles that Congress has erected to prison.
	Isn't this great?
	He sounds like a robot now.
	If you just cut out all those silences, he's like a robot.
	...vent progress on this significant national security priority.
	Democratic and Republican national security experts...
	I strongly support the President's position that closing the president of Guantanamo Bay would save taxpayer dollars and make the country safer.
	A variety of military leaders have reached that conclusion.
	Even President George W. Bush, who has different views on foreign policy than President Obama.
	Well, I won't keep it going on.
	But he, of course, did not just address the elephant in the room, which is this.
	I will close Guantanamo.
	I will restore habeas corpus.
	You can take that to the bank.
	Boom.
	He must be sorry.
	Couldn't he just do that by executive order?
	He keeps blaming Republicans.
	He could do it, probably could.
	But he keeps blaming Republicans.
	Sure he doesn't, because he doesn't want to close the base.
	Somebody put a gun to his head.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, there you go.
	Alrighty, I have a whole bunch of Obamacare stuff, which I'm going to move over to Sunday.
	Okay.
	I'll have a little mini-report, which is quite telling and funny.
	And the only other thing, we should do one or two more clips.
	I have a Jill Stein talking about hacking of the voting machines.
	Oh, let's talk about the Pentagon report.
	I think that's more interesting than listen to her whine.
	Oh, I feel...
	The Pentagon, you mean the...
	Well, I have a leading clip for that, actually.
	Okay.
	Here is the leading clip.
	Pentagon covering up some wasteful spending.
	The Washington Post reporting a Defense Department study issued in January of 2015 identified a clear path to save $125 billion over five years.
	But the Pentagon buried the findings because of worries the report would give Congress an excuse to slash defense spending.
	The report called on streamlining the bureaucracy through early retirements or cutting down on using contractors and making better use of information technology.
	It revealed the Pentagon was spending a quarter of its $580 billion budget on overhead and operations.
	That's kind of the shallow report of the day.
	It's a backgrounder.
	It's not a bad one, because it leads into this discussion, which I clipped deeper into the discussion, past the backgrounder, on the PBS News Hour, and I thought it was quite interesting.
	Okay, is this Pentagon Report 1?
	I gather there wasn't a great deal of cooperation across the board, but they did come back with a report, and what did it find?
	Well, what they found was pretty striking.
	This is kind of hard, I think, for most folks to understand, but the Pentagon actually, up till then, had no idea how many contractors actually worked for it.
	So they were trying to figure out how many people work in its business operations, and they found that more than one million people...
	Worked in these core business operations, like you said, healthcare management, human resources, property management, things that any organization needs.
	But, you know, even for the Pentagon, one million is a lot of people.
	These are, you know, essentially desk jobs.
	And that compares to only 1.3 million active duty troops.
	So the back end of the Pentagon was almost as big as, you know, the tip of the spear, so to speak.
	Okay.
	So Secretary Work, number two man at the Pentagon, when he and others saw this report, what did they do?
	Well, they had touted this in advance, saying this was going to be really important, and that they had asked these private sector executives to help them make sure that the report didn't gather dust and that they would...
	You know, adopt these recommendations.
	But when the numbers came back much bigger than they thought, and the recommendation was that they could save $125 billion over five years, you know, effectively they buried and killed the study.
	The data that had been collected internally for the first time to pinpoint how many people worked in these jobs was kept secret.
	It's still classified and confidential.
	We worked hard for months to get our hands on it.
	We were unable to.
	And I was working with Bob Woodward My colleague here at the Post is pretty good at that stuff.
	To this day, they've kept that data confidential.
	When and if appropriate, I have an interesting C-SPAN clip of General John Keene about the Pentagon issue.
	So you just let me know if I... Well, you can play it right after this part too, which is I'm going to mention this.
	We have to remember the Pentagon has never been audited.
	Nope.
	They keep saying Oh, you know, we can't do it because the cobalt doesn't work with this report gathering, the RPG, whatever the thing, these other crazy programs are, the old gear, we have to put in all new computers.
	I mean, the whole thing is bullcrap.
	I mean, you can audit section by section.
	And, and, and, September 10th, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld, at a press conference, Offhandedly said, yeah, there's two trillion dollars missing from the books.
	Yeah.
	This thing is a, the Pentagon is a scam.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	All right.
	Report two?
	Yeah, two.
	And you're right.
	The reason it seemed that they wanted this buried was that they were afraid that if this information came out that Congress would not appropriate what he and others thought the Pentagon needed to get in terms of future appropriations.
	That's right.
	There's a political calculation.
	They were worried that members of Congress would say, look, you've been asking us for more money.
	You've been saying the troops need more money.
	You need more funds for ships and tanks and airplanes.
	But look, your own report, your own data show that you could save $125 billion.
	Why are you asking us for more?
	So they were worried Congress would cut the budget instead of giving them more.
	So, you know, that's when they decided this was not something they wanted to act on and that They wanted to keep it quiet.
	So Craig Whitlock, what's the fallout from this today?
	How's the Pentagon dealing with this disclosure?
	Well, I think the Pentagon's, you know, it's very uncomfortable for them.
	They don't dispute the numbers here.
	They don't dispute that there's a million people working in their back office jobs.
	They don't dispute that this study found they could save that much money.
	They do say it would take more time, that maybe it wasn't practical to do this so quickly.
	But what they're feeling today is some pressure from Congress.
	Members of Congress, members of the armed services committees are saying at a minimum the Pentagon owes it to the American public to release this data showing how all this money could be saved.
	And I think the Pentagon is concerned.
	They want to see how President-elect Trump reacts.
	Here's a guy who campaigned on a platform for a major military buildup.
	And he said he would pay for it by cutting waste and abuse in the military budget.
	Oh, then I don't want to play my clip until you play your third one.
	I think that fits perfectly.
	Well, my third one is about the Boeing 747 that they want to build for Trump.
	Right, which is why it leads right beautifully out of that.
	Then just play clip three right now.
	Well, speaking of the president-elect and speaking of Pentagon spending, separately from all this, the president-elect today tweeted and then talked to the press, and we showed this just a moment ago, that he's upset about how much he says it's going to, the Boeing era, the Boeing company, Is going to be charging to build two new Air Force Ones.
	We know there are two of these airplanes that carry the President around.
	Do we know for a fact from Boeing that that's how much these planes are now supposed to cost?
	Well, you know, he's actually pretty close on that, Donald Trump, when he says $4 billion.
	Now, that's over the whole program.
	That's the cost of developing and designing these airplanes and to build and to buy them.
	Boeing doesn't have all those contracts yet, but it really is the inside track.
	It's the only company the Pentagon's been dealing with to work on this.
	But over the next I think we're good to go.
	You know, issue orders in case of nuclear war has to have anti-missile defenses, electromagnetic defenses.
	So these are pretty fancy, essentially, warplanes and command centers.
	That said, you know, President-elect Trump is saying, do we need to be spending that much on them?
	And very quickly, Craig Whitlock, is it believed that Boeing will now hold the cost down as a result of the president-elect's comments?
	Well, I think it's fair to say it's making a lot of people at Boeing and the Air Force squirm a bit.
	Now they're going, you know, they've already had some scrutiny from Congress on this program, but they know now there's going to be a new commander-in-chief who symbolically, one of the first things he's done to point out alleged Pentagon wastes is I think they're going to go back to the drawing board and they're going to have to justify the projections.
	Donald Trump is one smart mofo, boy, I tell you.
	So smart.
	Here's the reaction I get around me.
	Well, yeah!
	Yeah, screw that!
	Yeah, save our tax dollars, Trump!
	Well, those planes are pretty pricey.
	I mean, a Boeing 747, which is overpriced at about $325 to $350 million.
	Yeah, $350 is about the number for passengers.
	You're adding...
	You're adding over a billion dollars, a billion and a half dollars, well, let's see, it's going to be four billion, but yeah, at least a billion and a half dollars over the cost.
	I think two billion, considering there's two of them and all that, two billion is probably right, but that's not what this is about.
	No, I understand that, but I'm just saying that it's so obvious that you can make these comments about this four billion dollar deal.
	And you know it's not going to be four billion anyway, it'd be four eight billion.
	But here was the real message that Trump sent with this.
	He said, if it's too expensive, if they don't want to lower the numbers, we'll just make do with what we have.
	Very important message.
	And that was his intent.
	Hey, you know, we're going to be frugal.
	We're not going to, you know, we'll just say, this plane's fine.
	You know, I kicked the tires.
	It's okay.
	Very smart move.
	Because, you know, people aren't watching the news anymore.
	And they're certainly not watching C-SPAN. If you want to hear the vastness of the Pentagon, here is, and he was brought in for a reason, he's former, he's retired, Chief of Staff General John Keene, and he's brought in for a reason.
	I don't know who brought him into this particular, and it's the Armed Services Committee, this particular hearing, but here's what he had to say.
	What about the DOD business side of the house?
	Certainly, we are the best fighting force in the world.
	We're first-rate at that.
	We're absolutely third-rate at running the business-like functions of DOD. Because we're not good at it.
	We don't know enough to be good at it.
	We're managing huge real estate portfolios.
	We're managing huge lodging capabilities.
	We're one of the biggest motel owners in the United States.
	We're managing the largest healthcare enterprise in the world.
	The amount of maintenance that we're doing from a pistol to an aircraft carrier is staggering.
	Those are all business functions.
	Business functions.
	They're all non-core functions.
	And we're also managing new product design and new product development, using business terms.
	And we don't do well at this.
	And there's a ton of money involved in it.
	We've got to get after that money, and we've got to do better at it.
	And I think we should bring in, as a number two guy in the Department of Defense, a CEO from a Fortune 500 company in the last five years that's done a major turnaround of a large organization.
	We need business people to help us do this.
	We need a CFO, not a comptroller, in BOD. There you go.
	Bring in a CFO. I think that's absolutely correct.
	I like this guy.
	He nails it, yeah.
	I've heard his name, but I have no idea what his deal is, but I like that.
	Keep track of him.
	I do want to say, I hit the 10-minute warning on time, and we still went over, so don't yell at me.
	All right, everybody.
	Groovalicious.
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	Looking forward to Sunday.
	Anything I should be watching, or are we just good?
	Warriors.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	We'll do that then.
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	If I don't tease a picture, the numbers drop off by 10%.
	Owl is huge.
	It's part of an old tree, I guess.
	Or a gestalt, let's say.
	50-foot owl.
	It's a gestalt that he's got.
	I wanted to see this owl.
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