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	And I know it's bullcrap because I've seen the owl.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	December 14, 2016, this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 883.
	This is No Agenda.
	Guarding your reality 24-7, even on weekends, and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet, here in Austin, Tejas.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where Plato say, man who seduces German woman who owns a Messerschmitt really wants a fucker.
	I'm John C. DeVorex.
	It's Crackbot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Oh, nice.
	Aviation, Plato says.
	These guys are way ahead of their time, man.
	Yes, I don't know how you even knew about these models.
	I mean, seriously, how do they know about that stuff?
	Fantastic.
	Anyway, always nice kicking off the show with a Nazi joke.
	Good one.
	Welcome.
	I have to say I love my job, John.
	Why?
	What happened?
	It's just great.
	People are catching on once again.
	You know, they're sending good stuff, good info.
	Oh, yeah.
	Good stuff is coming in.
	Some of it is dated.
	I'm sorry?
	A lot of our newer guys, there's a lot of problems.
	I've had this problem.
	It's happened to me.
	Where you run into something and you say, holy crap, this is going on.
	I can't believe it.
	And here, check this out.
	And then you notice that it's like five years old.
	Oh, I've had that happen a lot.
	Oh, yeah.
	They don't do enough.
	The problem is with some of these websites and news sites in particular, they don't put the data anywhere in some instances.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So you're just finding out that 9-11 was an inside job?
	Is that what you're trying to say?
	Heyo!
	No, but I did get the one...
	I got onto this one thing about VMAT2. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
	VMAT2? What is that?
	VMAT2, if you remember...
	We talked about this, I think probably when this first appeared.
	It showed up again and started floating around.
	This is a video of...
	VMAT2 is the god gene.
	And people who want to look this up, they can look at VMAT2, number two usually, gene therapy, and you can run into these documents about this.
	They're trying to kill this gene off, and they think if they can do it, supposedly they call it a vaccine, but actually I think it's just a toxin, or they want to implement it through the flu virus maybe.
	You mean the flu vaccine, not the virus?
	Yes, you're right, the flu vaccine.
	Oh, who knows?
	Maybe they do it through the flu virus.
	Actually, doing it through the flu virus is the way to go.
	And I think this is going to happen sometime in the future.
	But it's kind of a part two of the show kind of thing.
	But VMAT, this video keeps cropping up every few years of this guy giving a lecture in the Pentagon about this.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay, I saw this video.
	Yes, of course.
	And now I know what you're talking about.
	All right.
	Yeah, it's from 2012.
	You can play a little of the clip if you want.
	Yeah, let me play a little.
	So our hypothesis is that...
	I think it was a Pentagon.
	At least it was stamped DOD. Yeah, and nobody's debunked this part of it.
	Because I keep looking and saying, I could do a VO, you know.
	But this is way too genuine.
	It looks pretty genuine, yeah.
	These are fanatical people.
	He's talking about genes of terrorists, right?
	Yeah, there's a gene in the brain, and it produces a spot in the brain that creates this kind of...
	All fanatics apparently have this.
	Yeah, which the highly dubious fMRI can apparently detect.
	That's very dubious.
	And the other dubious part is that if you really look into the fanatics that are fighting most of these, you know, very few of them are religious fanatics.
	They're just kids joyriding.
	Who have all kinds of weird shit going on in their brain anyway.
	The hypothesis is that these are fanatical people, that they have overexpression of the VMAT2 gene, and that by vaccinating them against this will eliminate this behavior.
	So we have some very, very remarkable data in this next slide.
	Here we have two brain scans.
	These are fMRIs.
	These are two different individuals with different levels of expression of EMAT-2.
	On top is an individual who's a religious fanatic and individual, and we've repeated this numerous times.
	How unhappy must you feel?
	If you are one of the, especially under taking Title 41 into regard, the power, the changes that the FBI now has, how do you feel that you actually sent your DNA to 23andMe?
	Really good, huh?
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm sorry, Mr.
	Curry.
	It appears you have the terror gene.
	Yeah, we'll have to kill you.
	We'll have to do something with you.
	...that has high levels of VMAT2. Now, this individual down here who had low levels of the VMAT2 gene, this individual would self-describe as not particularly religious in any...
	Yeah.
	I put the video in the show notes.
	People should go and take a look at it.
	But this is kind of creepy.
	Well, it's creepy if you think of the stories about both AIDS and Ebola and coming from a lab in Fort Detrick, Maryland, which we've brought up on the show before.
	And the fact that there's some comparable structures in both those viruses is alarming.
	That part I didn't, or at least I don't remember.
	Yeah, when we were discussing, when Ebola came out, there was some discussion.
	It was a long thing.
	I did it.
	And if you look at all the literature, there's a couple of structures that are coincident to both AIDS and Ebola.
	And these both cropped up, of course, in the 70s and 80s.
	And the thesis, of course, is the one I... I'd like to promote, which is that in the 70s, there was this huge movement towards population control.
	And all the literature showed that the real problem was in Africa.
	This is kind of second half of show material.
	Well, yes and no.
	I mean, it kind of relates to a story that just came across the wire yesterday, that Western University is moving into phase two human clinical trials of an HIV vaccine.
	And the reason why it hit my scanners was because it's being tested in 33 humans.
	One of those things, you know, just one of those things.
	Just a coincidence.
	But if they, so if they have some fix for Ebola and it has the similar design as HIV, who knows?
	Who knows what we can come up with all of a sudden?
	Well.
	But this VMAT thing is, yeah, it's a little disturbing, just a tad.
	Or as we say.
	Fact check, false, hands clapping, thumbs up.
	There you go.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Ah, okay.
	Let me see.
	Get into a little light stuff.
	Just because it's...
	I mean, the media deconstruction part of today is fun.
	Since there really is no news about what the new president will do when he's actually president, but he's not president yet, it's just on and on and on and on.
	They have nothing else to discuss but shit that could be true, making it up.
	What do we think?
	Let's start with the Taiwan incident.
	Yeah, this was dynamite.
	I'm like, oh, okay.
	This is new.
	And I didn't even know the rules about Taiwan, quite honestly, until this phone call took place.
	Where did we start?
	Well, I have a couple of clips.
	I have a, for one thing, we can get started with the worst case scenario, which is NBC's report, and then contrast it with PBS's report, the NewsHour.
	Okay.
	To see one hysterical report from NBC, and one of the things you'll miss from this clip is the, you're not going to see all the little tweets that they showed, that they popped up on the screen from people like Chris Hayes.
	Oh, the guy's an idiot not to know not to do this.
	I have two NBC clips with Taiwan.
	Which one do I start with?
	Okay, well, let's see what we got.
	Taiwan incident, NBC version.
	I think, oh yeah, it's the incident clip.
	The first one says version.
	Lauren, thank you.
	We do now want to turn to politics and Donald Trump at the center of a diplomatic controversy.
	The president-elect turning decades of protocol upside down with his 10-minute phone call with Taiwan.
	There's that protocol again.
	The reaction pouring in, including from China.
	Needless to say, Beijing is not happy.
	The latest on the phone flap from ABC's David Wright.
	Tonight, the 10-minute phone call with global repercussions.
	China!
	China!
	What China's doing to us is horrible.
	Having provoked China plenty out on the campaign trail, Donald Trump broke with four decades of U.S. foreign policy by speaking with his Taiwanese counterpart.
	The president of Taiwan called me today to wish me congratulations on winning the presidency, he tweeted.
	Thank you.
	But ever since Nixon, the U.S. recognizes one China, the People's Republic, which considers Taiwan to be a breakaway province.
	Today, Beijing lodged an official protest.
	Uh-oh, tweeted former Bush press secretary Ari Fleischer.
	I wasn't even allowed to refer to the government of Taiwan.
	China will go nuts.
	It's probably time we get a Secretary of State nominee on board, tweeted Democratic Senator Chris Murphy, preferably with experience, like really, really soon.
	President-elect Trump is fully briefed and fully knowledgeable about these issues on an ongoing basis, regardless of who's on the other end of the phone.
	I do have some questions about this, but do you want to play your PBS first?
	Well, first I also want to mention that they showed Donald Trump's initial tweet where he got the phone call and talked about it on Twitter.
	But they didn't show, which I thought was unfair, not showing the second one, which was a sarcastic remark.
	An hour later, when people started, they got upset immediately.
	I can't imagine people just must dog his Twitter account.
	So an hour later, he says, gee, it's funny, I get criticized for taking a congratulatory phone call while we sell billions and billions of dollars worth of arms to this country.
	Exactly.
	I mean, that, of course, that wasn't really talked about, of course.
	But this is my question.
	As a kid growing up, I remember that we would have goods in the...
	So this is 70s when I was still in the US. I remember it would either say made in Taiwan or made in Pakistan.
	It was kind of the joke.
	Like, where's that made?
	Taiwan?
	Fire!
	And that was before we had Chinese stuff.
	So we were really in bed with those guys on the trade front, as far as I can recall.
	Oh, it was absolute.
	Everything was coming in from Taiwan.
	Yeah, they were the predecessor of the Chinese cheap production, manufacturing.
	The Chinese were all kind of irked that we were even talking to them or trading with them or anything, and they were always...
	Threatening them.
	But the funny thing was, the Chinese in the early days of the split-off, when Taiwan was formed by the leftovers from Chiang Kai-shek, the Chinese had built, because I've been to the coast, around Xiamen, China, which is right, you can see Taiwan from down.
	From your front porch.
	Pretty much.
	And there's a bunch of embattlements that have been set up.
	They're all abandoned now, but they're along the beach.
	It's very interesting.
	There were these old foxholes, not foxholes, but these little turrets and all this crazy stuff.
	Yeah, the pillboxes.
	Yeah, pillboxes.
	There you go.
	They were expecting the Taiwanese to attack China and take it over.
	So when Nixon made the deal, it was Nixon who made the deal, Nixon's the one who opened China for trade.
	Open China.
	So, was it part of the deal that we said, okay, here's what we're going to do.
	Well...
	F Taiwan, but...
	Okay, yes.
	We can't talk about it.
	No, the...
	This is a little cloudy, because if you listen to the PBS report, they mention Nixon specifically in that report from NBC, because Nixon's a Republican, and NBC is just all in with the Democrats.
	So that's a little bit of propaganda there.
	Because the protocol began this so-called protocol, which is, by the way, I don't know why anybody doesn't back away a little bit and look at this and say, this is stupid.
	It's stupid.
	This country exists.
	We sell them stuff.
	Our friend Moody lives there.
	Oh, did he move to Taiwan?
	Yeah, he's a Taiwanese wife.
	I don't know if he moved.
	I'm sorry.
	I thought he had moved, but who knows?
	He could move there.
	Yeah.
	So it's stupid.
	This protocol is stupid.
	And the fact that it's gone on this long, and Trump should just say, why?
	Why are the Chinese telling us what to do and who to talk to?
	I think his second tweet said it all.
	It's like, listen, we sell billions of material to these guys, which I'm sure the Chinese are not happy with, or do they not know this somehow?
	Yeah, they don't know.
	It's just a, what?
	I don't know.
	Oh, it's...
	Trump gave it away.
	We were secretly selling billions of dollars.
	Oh, no.
	Who knew?
	So this thing should go away.
	But the protocol appears, according to the PBS report, and I believe them more than I believe NBC about any of this, started in 1979, which is Jimmy Carter.
	Ah, a Democrat.
	And they won't mention that.
	So let's play.
	Now, listen to compare that hysterical report you just heard of the people running around their hands in the air, waving and screaming, which was NBC, compared to the more sober and more realistic report from PBS.
	And late today, the Trump transition team reported that President-elect Trump spoke by phone with the president of Taiwan.
	It is a highly unusual move.
	The U.S. cut formal diplomatic ties with Taiwan in 1979.
	That's it.
	That's all.
	That's the report.
	That, to me, was the perfect report.
	Yeah, no mention of protocol.
	No screaming and yelling.
	What an idiot!
	This is the only media outlet that I so far have heard someone say, oh yeah, and we sell billions of weapons to Taiwan.
	They could have mentioned that on the PBS, the ditty there.
	They could have, but they've kept it short and sweet and it was fine.
	Anyway, so this whole thing is a joke.
	But it's fun to watch.
	They pile on a little bit on the NBC report because they have to.
	And if you play the second part, you'll see what I'm talking about.
	And David joins us now live from Trump Tower.
	David, this was not the president-elect's only controversial call with a foreign leader.
	Not by a long shot, Cecilia.
	Also today, the president of the Philippines said that during his call with Trump, Trump praised his controversial anti-drug program.
	Now this is a program where police have killed more than 2,000 people.
	The U.N. and the U.S. have condemned that program, Cecilia.
	Right.
	Yeah, Trump wants to kill us all.
	Oh, yeah.
	Of course he does.
	I don't even know.
	I mean, this guy, this nutcase that's running the Philippines, which I think we agree is kind of wacky.
	Yeah.
	He could have made that up.
	There's no verification of that.
	Trump said, oh, you're doing a great job, you know, cleaning up the drug thing.
	It just doesn't make sense.
	He probably took the call and chatted, you know, for a minute or two, and that was that.
	Right.
	The guy can barely speak English.
	Well, I like it.
	I hear these things.
	I'm like, yeah, nice.
	Whatever protocol is, bust it up a bit.
	We'll see.
	This protocol is stupid.
	And again, why is China...
	Telling us, since 1979, China was a weak sister in 1979.
	Why are we walking on pins and needles for China?
	Well, we're going to find out.
	And China, by the way, of anybody, they're doing more business with Taiwan than any other country.
	Most of the Taiwan products are all now made in China.
	I mean, Ace or everybody else has moved to China, and they work together.
	They're even going to run an airline direct flights to Taipei if they haven't already, which took a while.
	So why are we on pins and needles about this?
	Well, the only thing I can recall is that there was a lot of noise about President Obama's first campaign.
	His first election campaign, there was a lot of financing from China through credit cards and all kinds of nefarious things.
	I don't know, maybe that.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	But everyone has agendas in Washington.
	Surprise, surprise.
	It just makes me laugh.
	How come Kim Jong-un hasn't called yet?
	Can't get, there's no phones at work.
	The dial phone, you have to click the handle.
	The White House doesn't accept collect calls, is that what you're saying?
	That's another one, yeah.
	There's a million jokes here.
	There was a fun segment on CNN where one of the hosts sat down, because of course now we're still raging about the illegals, the illegals who are voting.
	The illegals!
	And so the CNN host sat down with people who had voted for Trump, and she kind of already falls into that trap that Scott Adams was talking about, that it's not even whether there was illegal votes taking place, but how many illegal aliens were voting.
	And this group...
	Challenges her, and then she comes up with some bullcrap, but we're going to debunk it here.
	So let's just listen to this.
	So where are you getting your information?
	From the media.
	Which media?
	Some of it was CNN, I believe.
	CNN said that three million illegal people voted in California?
	Well, it was coming all across the media.
	Well, of course.
	But CNN didn't do it then.
	They were being smart this time.
	Do you think that three million illegal people voted?
	I believe in California that there were illegals that voted.
	How many?
	I don't.
	To tell you the truth, nobody really knows that number.
	But do you think three dozen or do you think three million?
	I think there was a good amount, because the president told people that they could vote, and it happened in Nashua.
	We caught some people that they went into Nashua, and they said, the president said I could vote.
	I'm here illegally.
	Did you hear President Obama say that illegal people could vote?
	Yes, I did.
	I heard it this morning.
	Yes, I did hear it.
	Tell me, where?
	You can find it.
	Google it.
	Google it.
	You can find it on Facebook.
	All right.
	Hold on.
	I don't want to waste any more time, but anyway, I see where it came from, and it's...
	Fox Business Network deceptively edited a clip of Barack Obama to argue that the president encouraged illegal immigrants to vote when in fact he had said nothing of the sort when you go back to the transcript.
	So she tries to debunk that.
	She tries to do a fact-check-false live.
	Unfortunately, these people are right to some degree.
	There was an interview one day before the election with a millennial voter who, interestingly enough, is here illegally.
	She sat down, interviewed the president.
	Not like you get arrested or anything for breaking the law, but she asked a very specific question.
	And although the president...
	I think his answer is truthful because he didn't really, either didn't hear the question or didn't want to, the way he answered it totally can be misconstrued.
	Many of the millennials, dreamers, undocumented citizens, and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country.
	Now notice what she's saying here.
	I call them citizens because they contribute to this country.
	This is important.
	I like the redefinition.
	It's cute.
	Well, we should probably look up the actual definition to make sure.
	Citizens, and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country, are fearful of voting.
	So if I vote, will immigration know where I live?
	Will they come from my family and deport us?
	Now, the correct answer is you can't vote because you're not a legal citizen of the United States.
	That's what the president should say, correct?
	I would hope so.
	Guess again.
	You know where I live?
	Will they come for my family and deport us?
	Not true.
	And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself.
	Now, he's already playing into what she just said.
	I call the dreamers and the illegal citizens because they contribute, and he's just saying, well, you know, when you're a citizen...
	You are a citizen yourself, and there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, etc.
	The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for.
	If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.
	So while he is talking about something else...
	He's telling people to vote.
	That's the way I take it.
	Oh yeah, there's no doubt about it.
	And, you know, I don't know...
	I mean, whatever the CNN woman was looking at...
	I don't know what the CNN woman was talking about, but what do you expect?
	Did they pull up this clip that you just pulled up and then play it so they can analyze it as they listen to it?
	So she pulled up this clip and the clip was edited.
	But when you look at the, you know, for brevity, I guess, and that's why, oh, this has been deceptively edited by...
	That clip was not that long.
	Hold on.
	That clip was not that long.
	No, not this one.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I know what you're saying.
	But I'm just telling you, there was a version on Fox News that she pulled up.
	At least that's what she pulled up.
	I didn't find that actual story, the way they deceptively edited it.
	And it looked like there was a bad jump cut.
	But I pulled the original interview, and there's no jump cut.
	I've been in television a long time.
	I don't think this was edited.
	I'm pretty good at detecting that.
	Yeah.
	No, you're really good at it, actually.
	So, the president, without a doubt, just kind of skipped over saying, well, you know, you can't call yourself a citizen.
	What is the actual definition of citizen?
	I got it.
	Here's the William Webster version.
	Definition of citizen.
	An inhabitant of a city or town, especially one entitled to the rights and privileges of a freeman.
	Free man.
	Free man.
	2.
	A. Member of a state.
	2.
	B. Natives or naturalized person who owes allegiance to a government and is entitled to protection from it.
	3.
	Civilian as distinguished from a specialized servant of the state.
	So that's it.
	That's your examples.
	It's pretty weak.
	I thought so.
	Pretty weak.
	Well, we do have rules.
	I know that.
	We have laws.
	And luckily, and now everything starts to come together with all the noise about voter ID laws.
	They're suppressing the vote.
	They're suppressing poor people who don't have ID. Because we all know, as a black man in Los Angeles, you can't carry ID. That would be dumb.
	Or New York, as a black man in New York, or a black woman.
	You know, you get stopped.
	Sorry, no ID. I don't have picture ID. Bullcrap.
	Bullcrap.
	There was a couple of good videos made that show the naivety.
	Well, actually, black Americans going, what the F are you talking about?
	We always carry ID. So I have here a clip which will go into this illegal voting and explains, I think, why Democrats in particular are always accusatory of voter ID laws in particularly Republican states.
	This is former Federal Election Committee Commissioner Hans von Spakovsky, And he really lays it out, including the numbers.
	But Donald Trump's claims of fraud in the election, what do you make of his claim that there were up to millions of fraudulent voters?
	Well, I would say he's more right than his critics.
	We actually don't know the answer to that.
	And the problem is that our whole voter registration process is pretty much based on an honor system.
	I will tell you, we know for certain that non-citizens are illegally registering and voting.
	There have been cases all across the country of people being prosecuted for that.
	But there's no systematic way of verifying citizenship.
	A number of surveys have looked at this, and non-citizens themselves admit that they are registered to vote.
	It could be anywhere from 10 to 15 percent of non-citizens being registered.
	Okay, but let me just take the detail.
	That's because if you're an illegal immigrant here, you can go out and get a fake ID, fake social security card, fake driver's license, and then register to vote even with those fake documents.
	Nobody's going to check those.
	As you say, it's the honor system.
	So that's the basis for the ability of people to register even if they're not citizens, correct?
	Yes, but also non-citizens who are here legally.
	Many of them go and get driver's licenses and they are asked where they want to register to vote and they're allowed to register to vote.
	A case in Virginia just before the election, more than a thousand non-citizens were found registered in just eight counties in the state.
	All of them here legally but illegally registered and many of them had voted in prior elections.
	Okay, but through There's a question of magnitude here.
	Do we have any sense of what that magnitude is?
	I mean, you mentioned anecdotes, and anecdotes are worth mentioning.
	But statistically, we really don't know how many people might be fraudulent voters, do we?
	No.
	There we have to, again, look at the surveys.
	Based on the surveys, it could be anywhere from 2% to over 6% of noncitizens voting in elections, which could be anywhere from a couple hundred thousand to over a million.
	What should states do to limit this kind of voter fraud?
	Every state should have a law like Kansas that says when you register to vote you have to provide proof of citizenship.
	And frankly the Trump administration needs to start a new project whereby the Department of Homeland Security starts checking state voter registration lists to verify citizenship of people who are registered to vote.
	But this is typically done on a state basis.
	This is not something that you would do nationally in terms of voter ID laws.
	That's right.
	But states have had problems with the Obama administration because the Obama administration has tried to stop all verification of citizenship on voter registration lists.
	Okay.
	Hans von Spakovsky, thanks for being with us.
	Appreciate it.
	There you go.
	So it could be quite large.
	Well, if it's 10%, like you said earlier, then it said 6-8% or 4-6%.
	Yeah, that's based on 11 million illegals.
	That's at least a million people.
	Now, the problem is, there's a couple problems.
	One, I'm actually not dead set against somebody that's living and working in the country voting.
	In fact, I'm kind of upset that I can't vote twice, because I also have a place up in Washington State, and there's issues, local issues, that affect me up there, but I'm registered to vote in California, where there's local issues here, too.
	But why can't I have...
	Yeah, you should be allowed to vote in both states, but not in the general.
	Not for president, but the local issues up there affect me.
	I should be able to vote there.
	And I bet you, if you go up there and you show your ID, you'll be okay?
	I'm not doing it because it's illegal.
	Well, there's that.
	Now, yeah, there's that.
	But I've never seen it.
	If you say you've been living here for 10 years, I think you should be able to vote, but it's illegal.
	That's the problem.
	The way I see it, if you want to get these guys, you want to put them on the voters' ballot, the way they're doing it, the Democrats in particular, who want to do this is by cheating.
	Change the law.
	This is one of those things.
	You got a problem with the Second Amendment.
	You got a problem?
	Repeal the Second Amendment.
	You got a problem with the voting situation?
	Change the law.
	Yeah.
	Instead of cheating the system.
	This is sneaky.
	Oh, let's do this.
	Oh, yeah, you can vote.
	Go ahead and vote.
	Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
	Change the law.
	I've never really had that much of a problem with the idea.
	I think felons should vote.
	In fact, I've never understood why they can't.
	They're the ones that are affected by the system more than anybody else.
	They get out of jail.
	They maybe want some corrupt system.
	They should be able to vote.
	Well, you know what I say to you then, John?
	Change the system.
	Change the law.
	That's what you have to do.
	Yeah.
	Hmm.
	And I should be able to vote.
	There should be some way I can vote in Washington.
	It's really irksome.
	While we're on law, we were talking about the road versus Wade and abortion and constitutionality versus religion.
	You got the note?
	Yeah, from, of course, we have our resident constitutional lawyer.
	How stupid are we?
	Sir Richard, the lord of the law libraries in Lincoln, Nebraska.
	Yes, and we will...
	Yeah, right.
	When he sent his note and I read it over and I realized that no media outlet has really discussed it from an absolute perspective.
	Yeah, and last night I read it to Tina the Keeper and she also was like, oh, I didn't really know that's exactly what it was about.
	And, you know, and she's very interested in this.
	Here it is.
	In the morning, both of you guys, last episode you had a brief discussion about laws surrounding abortion.
	You got it kind of wrong, but in your defense, it's complicated, and virtually no one without a legal education understands it, including most TV pundits and reporters.
	And we concur, since we have not seen anyone explain it this way.
	Here we go.
	And remember, this is from the actual guy who maintains the, what do I have it here?
	The law book, what is it?
	Yeah, this big book.
	It's a National Survey of State Laws, 7th edition, which he sent to both of us.
	Huge, huge.
	Abortion is a crime in virtually every state.
	I'm not sure what that means.
	I don't like the word virtually, but okay.
	Abortion is a crime in virtually every state, and as such is illegal in them, all within the constitutional limits described by the Supreme Court.
	The court in Roe v.
	Wade found that a woman has a right to privacy that shields her from laws of the state in the first trimester.
	That's important.
	Therefore, after the first trimester, the state can regulate abortion in any way that they see fit.
	So that's really the crux of it.
	Abortion is a crime in the United States, according to the Supreme Court, after the first trimester.
	And the states can then do whatever they want.
	So, most of the controversy you see today regards how the state attempts to regulate legal abortions, but that are clearly intended to limit access, requiring a burial for all embryos.
	Hello, Texas.
	The abortion clinic doctors have hospital privileges at a local hospital, etc.
	You can see this clear.
	Well, and I do want to say one thing about that.
	Um...
	That it is the hospitals who need to be kicked in the ass in this case.
	Because they are, and most of the hospitals in Texas certainly are religious based, religiously based.
	Although they're owned by only a few huge, huge, very commercial corporations.
	They are just refusing flat out because they don't want the hassle.
	But I think that is, you know, that would certainly go a long way towards solving some issues here in Texas.
	It's like, you know, come on.
	Don't be an a-hole.
	But there it is.
	That's how it works.
	And you're right.
	I don't think anyone has broken it down that simply.
	Right.
	Now we can go back to our old theories.
	Oh, by the way, I forgot to mention on Thursday, although he probably won't become Secretary of State, I do want to mention that being from the future, Dan Quayle did show up at Trump Tower.
	Okay.
	Well, it's good to know.
	It showed at Bolton.
	Well, then the weirdest one, I mean, we talk about going to the skewed media.
	Amy Goodman brings up this one.
	This one, I never, nobody else reported this, and as Secretary of State candidates, you have to do a realistic clip here.
	Amy on Exxon picks for Secretary of State.
	Listen to this bullcrap.
	Donald Trump has still not chosen his Secretary of State, but new media reports say he's considering two additional candidates.
	ExxonMobil CEO Rex Tillerson and former ExxonMobil CEO Lee Raymond.
	ExxonMobil is the U.S.'s largest oil company.
	It's currently being investigated by a handful of attorneys generals following revelations that for decades the company covered up its own scientific findings linking rising carbon emissions to dangerous climate change.
	What?
	What?
	Yes, right.
	We got your fake news.
	We got your fake news.
	Bye.
	Yes, fake news.
	Fake news.
	The likelihood of either one of those guys, especially the second guy she mentioned, who you've seen him, he's the guy who had, I don't know if he has some condition, but his face is all swollen.
	He has like a thousand chins.
	Just the worst looking person ever.
	I don't know who this guy is.
	Just a bad representative of anything.
	It's just nonsense.
	It wouldn't, it's complete nonsense, especially since he's like targeting military guys to put in charge of everything, which is also kind of, you know, here's my take on it, because of course, with every military guy, every military industrial complex, you know, all these people coming in, you got to have some skepticism.
	It's like, what exactly is going on?
	Will this be any good?
	Now, on the military side, what I've been hearing is, you know, first of all, we have the top brass are all leaving.
	Brennan's going to go.
	Clapper's going to go.
	Of course, what's his name?
	Yeah.
	Who's D.O.D. right now?
	Yeah, Ash Carter.
	Ash Carter.
	Now, I do like bringing in Mad Dog.
	Just the idea of having a guy.
	Well, no, I have mixed feelings about Mad Dog.
	Oh.
	And play the Fox report I have a clip of here, because he said, he got this one quote of his into this report that just really takes me back.
	Saying, quote, by reading you learn through others' experience, generally a better way to do business.
	Especially in our line of work where the consequences of incompetence are so final for young men.
	Mattis is also known for turning a compelling phrase like, quote, be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.
	Mattis also finds himself defending accusations that as a brigadier general in Afghanistan in 2001, he repeatedly refused to send helicopters to rescue a group of Green Berets trapped by enemy fire.
	The army captain who led the mission says Mattis betrayed them.
	The general has not responded.
	The other thing I don't like about this guy, even though I don't dislike him specifically for this, but it's like he doesn't own a TV. That's good.
	But it's also bad.
	And he reads.
	He's just a reading.
	He's a voracious reader.
	People who are voracious readers, I don't know what his level of education is.
	I should look him up on Wikipedia right now.
	But that's a sign of somebody who feels that they don't know anything.
	They just read too much.
	So you think his news diet does not have a healthy balance is what you're saying.
	Definitely not.
	Also, if you use some media theories like the stuff McLuhan would promote, he's a linear thinker because of the way he takes in information, which is reading, which is a linear process where you go from here and you're just like word after word instead of getting an impact or a gestalt, let's say, from the television where you get to see stuff.
	It's a little harder to deal with this stuff off the TV because there's all kinds of information coming at you.
	A lot of it goes subconscious.
	But with this guy, he's a linear thinker, so he's old-fashioned, whereas he's pre-1900 mentality in terms of the way his brain works.
	And that quote about he planned to kill everybody you meet, I don't see the guy as being funny.
	So I don't see this as a humorous comment, because it is funny, but I don't see him as funny.
	I've never seen him even barely smile.
	I don't think the other services like him, and I think that Ranger guy probably epitomizes the Army's take on him.
	I'm not sold on this character.
	Okay.
	44 years in the Marines?
	Come on.
	Just not a guy that you could hang out with.
	I don't know if I want to hang out with...
	With anyone, really.
	I'm happy hanging out here.
	I don't know.
	That's beside the point.
	You're saying in general.
	Oh, okay.
	Seems like he's a little, you know, he's a Marine.
	He's a 44-year-old Marine four-star general.
	I mean, this is a guy that's definitely got a fixed mentality here about things.
	And he doesn't like the idea that Putin, that, I'm sorry, that Trump is warming up to Putin.
	He doesn't like that.
	Why?
	I don't know.
	I'm not sold on this.
	We'll have to see.
	Okay.
	Who else did we have in the recent appointments?
	Well, the idea of a lot of oil guys coming in is, on one hand, makes nothing but sense, because that's what Trump promised.
	Well, also he's got his munchkin character, who I kind of think is, I like him.
	Who, Pence?
	Pence?
	No, Munchkin, the guy who's the Secretary of the Treasury.
	Oh, Munchkin.
	I don't think his name is.
	Isn't that his name, Munchkin?
	I don't think it's Munchkin.
	No, I don't think it's Munchkin.
	No, it's totally Munchkin.
	Is this a Treasury guy?
	Is this a Goldman Sachs guy?
	Yeah, that guy.
	Do you like him?
	I do like him.
	Why?
	I don't know anything about him.
	Well, it's a gestalt that he's got that I like because I've known these types of guys.
	He's also an insider-outsider, so he's been in the business.
	They accuse him of, oh, he's part of the predatory lending and all the rest of it.
	But he seems like a sharp operator.
	He's a hedge fund guy last time we looked.
	He used to be Goldman Sachs.
	And he just seems like a guy that has a clue.
	And I want to mention something here from my own personal experience.
	This idea that if you're on one side of the fence, you go to the other side of the fence to become a regulator.
	That this is bad.
	It's a conflict of interest.
	Oh, you used to work for a bank, so you can't regulate banks.
	Well, that's not entirely true.
	You want people who know how it works to go in and stop the corruption.
	Yeah, so they can say, oh, you know, this is over.
	We're not going to let this go on.
	Or you say, well, this is the way it actually works.
	People don't know it.
	But we have to, you know, you don't want to go after that because it's going to screw things up.
	Because you know the business.
	I used to work at an oil refinery.
	As a chemist, but I was working in the oil refinery.
	You get into the scene, you get kind of part of the milieu of the oil refiners, the oil refiners, the stories.
	So when you're a part of the scene, what do you guys do for fun?
	You hang out and talk gushers?
	Talk about oil, man.
	Gushers?
	Gushers?
	Gushers.
	That was a gusher, man.
	Yeah, gushers.
	There's a joke there.
	Gushers, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	So then I became an air pollution inspector, and the first thing they did when I was an inspector, the first assignment they gave me was another oil refinery.
	And I felt that was the perfect assignment, because I knew enough about it.
	I didn't know the business of the extreme, but...
	I knew what was going on.
	I knew they were bullshitting me.
	That's the big problem that you have.
	You find it with journalists.
	I want to ask you a question about that.
	At any point, did anyone approach you with what might have been possibly seen as a bribe to close one eye during your inspections?
	Never.
	Huh.
	That never happened.
	Apparently, it just didn't happen.
	I think it happened with some other inspectors that came from New Jersey.
	Oh, yeah.
	Where apparently the air pollution district there is all pay off.
	Yeah, hello.
	The guy told me.
	He says, oh, that's all they do.
	No, there's none of that.
	Especially Standard Oil is extremely professional.
	And they, you know, they had a guy assigned to me and I could go wherever I wanted and I get to go into the place and drive around and look at this and that.
	And I'm sure they steer me away from something that was a problem.
	And of course they were, you know, like puppy dogs when something bad was going on.
	We were fixing it right away.
	Yeah, did you actually write someone up?
	Did you like have to call for TPS reports and like a real government a-hole?
	Were you like that?
	No, we actually had these notifications of violations that we wrote up.
	Hand them over.
	Excellent.
	Excellent.
	I just needed the sunglasses and some sort of a helmet.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And a billy club.
	Tap, tap, tap.
	Hey, hey, hey.
	Nice.
	Very nice.
	So that's nonsense.
	And people keep bringing that up.
	They're naive.
	Anyone who you hear says, well, he used to work there, so he's not going to be a good regulator.
	You're very naive to think that.
	And the mainstream media will promote it because they have the, in fact, the whole world of journalism promotes the idea of neutrality.
	So you can be a journalist.
	This is the problem I find with the modern journalists who cover tech.
	They get buffaloed.
	They've never been in tech.
	They weren't hobbyists or they weren't interested in computers, let's say, or anything else except phones.
	And they'll go and somebody will just buffalo them.
	They'll lie to them.
	And, oh, okay, whatever.
	They don't know any better.
	You don't get buffaloed if you've actually been in that business.
	It's interesting you bring that up.
	The Intercept had a pretty big article about technology companies, and they asked, you know, for some reason, it's like, oh, okay, we have a good idea.
	Let's go ask tech companies if they would build the Muslim database, the registry database.
	Which, of course, is kind of an, although we're in millions of databases, every individual, and certainly in government databases, if you have, how about PreCheck, whatever, you're in databases, but okay.
	They asked nine tech firms if they would help the government create a Muslim registry database.
	And the only one that said outright no was Twitter.
	But the one that jumped on it right away and wrote a personal letter to President-elect Trump, offering congratulations and the services of her company, is our old friend who is no stranger to databases.
	That would be Ginny Rometty of IBM. Oh, God.
	And we need to remind everyone.
	What a mistake that was.
	I mean, talk about a publicity nightmare.
	And even the image on this story is her with her back in kind of dark shroud and then the big IBM logo.
	And I think maybe we should revisit for a moment your friend who actually did the documentary about IBM's involvement in World War II with the Germans.
	Yes.
	Yeah, Ed Black, who is absolutely underplayed.
	He's on the level of Cy...
	Cy Hirsch.
	Cy Hirsch.
	He's on that.
	He may even be on it because he does deeper research.
	But Ed Black busted IBM. It became a huge story on 60 Minutes for providing the Nazis all of the Hollerith machines that we're going to sort out.
	Jews sent them to various camps efficiently.
	They had punch cards.
	So they had a big database, even though it was on punch cards.
	It was a punch card database, but it was the same thing.
	So IBM is going to do it again, and she obviously doesn't know this.
	Doesn't know the history of IBM, that's for sure.
	Yeah, that's idiotic.
	Well, she'll be reminded of the history.
	Well, she's on notice.
	The best podcast in the universe has just made it known.
	Stupid.
	But The Intercept knew.
	They put her front and center.
	Oh yeah!
	But no mention of it.
	No mention of it in the article.
	Disappointing for a $250 million WordPress blog.
	But no mention of the Hollerith thing?
	No.
	Really?
	No.
	Really.
	None.
	Whatsoever.
	Front and center.
	Whatsoever.
	I have not been able to find the full recording.
	Because it interests me incredibly.
	There was a post-mortem conversation at Harvard between the Clinton and the Trump campaigns I have a report on this that has some of the clips going back and where they go back and forth, but to hear the whole thing, I'd love to.
	I have four minutes of it.
	Oh, that's probably more than I have.
	Now, here's a little background on this.
	Every year after the election, Harvard has a little forum, and they bring in all the campaign managers and people from both parties, and they...
	Sit there and civilly discuss what went right, what went wrong, how this worked, how that worked.
	Not this year.
	No.
	The Clinton campaign comes in and they're just accusatory, you are exploiting white racism, you're a racist, and they're giving it to Kellyanne Conway.
	And she's trying to defend herself.
	And by the way, just mentioning her name, because I have some other stuff with her in it.
	She seems to be the press...
	Go-between.
	When did that begin?
	They're always going to her.
	She's like the press secretary, and she's not a press secretary type.
	No, but she is very good.
	Yeah, she's good, but she's...
	Are they still...
	Wasn't the...
	Weren't they still considering Laura Ingraham to be the spokeswoman?
	I don't think that was her story.
	I don't think so.
	No, she wouldn't.
	I don't think that would ever happen.
	She's too...
	No, she's too nasty.
	Alright, so this is from PBS, this Harvard report?
	Yeah, it is.
	But at Harvard University, top officials of his campaign clashed with Clinton campaign managers at a normally civil post-election review.
	Clinton-aid said the Trump campaign fueled racism I would rather lose than win the way you guys did Do you think I ran a campaign where white supremacists had a platform?
	Are you going to look me in the face and tell me that?
	It did, Kelly, it did Do you think you could have just had a I found that interesting because I've heard it a couple times now Instead of using the correct phrase, are you going to look me in the eye and say that?
	Why do you think she said you're going to look me in the face?
	Maybe that's a woman thing I don't understand.
	You're going to look me in the face?
	Yeah.
	I didn't even catch that.
	That's interesting.
	Yeah, well, I've heard it three times now.
	I'm like, why would you say look me in the face?
	It has to be a woman thing that we don't understand.
	And it probably has something to do with resting bitch face or one of these terms.
	And I'll have to ask around.
	Yes, ask around.
	This is worth looking into.
	I agree.
	It's worth looking into.
	You're going to look me in the face and tell me that?
	It did.
	Do you think you could have just had a decent message for the white working class voters?
	There were also sparks when Clinton aides noted that their candidate won more votes than the president-elect.
	You guys won.
	That's clear.
	You won the Electoral College.
	That was the fight, right?
	Let's also be honest.
	Don't act as if you have some popular mandate for your message.
	The fact of the matter is that more Americans voted for Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump.
	Hey guys, we won.
	You don't have to respond.
	I mean, seriously.
	Today, Trump supporters moved to block recounts in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.
	The president-elect was in New York today, meeting with longtime supporters Republican Senator David Perdue of Georgia and former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton.
	His schedule also included an unusual suspect, Senator Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota, a Democrat.
	For the PBS NewsHour, I'm John Yang.
	Having heard those little clips, I think it's worth it to play a little bit of the full recording that I have.
	Yes, I'd like to hear it.
	I heard one recording, I think it was on RT Work.
	Where they're yelling at each other and Kellyanne is going, that's crap.
	That's crap.
	Kind of interstitially.
	In the PBS report, they took that out.
	I by no means have the full thing, but if anyone has a copy, I'd love to have it to make some clips for Thursday's show.
	Because I think this is really good.
	It's providing a platform for white supremacists.
	This is the Clinton communications director.
	I forget her name.
	Jennifer Palmieri.
	A brilliant tactician I am glad to have lost.
	Give me a minute, David.
	I am more proud of Hillary Clinton's all right speech than any other moment on the campaign because she had the courage to stand up.
	I would rather lose than win the way you guys did.
	No, you wouldn't.
	Yes.
	That's very clear today.
	No, you wouldn't, respectfully.
	I'm sorry, how exactly did we win?
	Now go for it, Jen.
	How exactly did we win?
	I'd like to know, because I sacrificed the last four months of my life to do it.
	Excuse me.
	This is something that Kellyanne Conway deploys very effectively, and it's something that Trump does as well.
	And it's extremely rude, but it works.
	When someone is going, blah, blah, blah, they interrupt you, and you go, excuse me.
	Somehow it works.
	Well, you know, Kelly, we have to remember the background, the I'm probably one of the few people that remember the background of Kellyanne Conway because I was a fan of hers in the mid to late 1990s.
	And she was the progenitor, as far as I can tell, of Ann Coulter, of Laura Ingram, and a bunch of other people because she's the first cute blonde.
	And she was pretty cute back 20 years ago.
	She's still cute.
	She's still cute, but you can tell she's older.
	But she was really cute.
	But she was a cute Monica, what's her name, is another one of them.
	She was fiery, cute, and she was blonde and a fast talker, kind of a Ben Shapiro.
	I think Ben Shapiro developed himself out of her.
	And she could hold her own against anybody on these talk shows.
	And she would always be dropped in.
	this is during the Clinton administration, by the way, she'd be dropped in as the conservative girl who would just could take on anybody.
	And so she's very experienced in this kind of debating.
	And she's watching a pro.
	Oh yeah.
	So whether she picked it up from Trump or vice versa, it is extremely effective.
	And there's something about this.
	I think the American psyche and you have to say it just right.
	You can't say, excuse me.
	No, you can't say, you got to say, excuse me.
	You got to extend it a little, excuse me.
	And then you grab the floor immediately and it works.
	Thank you.
	Really interesting.
	To know, because I've sacrificed the last four months of my life to do it.
	Excuse me.
	Bam!
	And we did it.
	And we did it by looking at the schedule and looking at, yes, the electoral map of 270, because that's how you win the presidency.
	And we went places and we were either ignored or mocked roundly by most of the people in this room, but I have a smile on my face at all times.
	True.
	She always had a smile on her face.
	And we did it by focusing with Steve Bannon and Dave Bossy and everybody you see here, they're going to say, oh, she just said Corey was part of the campaign.
	Jeff Zucker.
	Okay, Corey until whatever, what was that, June?
	And we focused on how you win.
	We connected with voters.
	We connected with voters.
	Is himself, you know, we've already gone through some of the examples of his own languages, his own positions that I believe are at odds with my values as an American of embracing diversity, inclusivity, equality, and hiring someone like Steve Bannon.
	Which is exactly what Breitbart is.
	This, by the way, gives you such an insight into how people are really thinking and, of course, how the media is.
	Man, there's a list, I put it in the show notes, of all the journalists who have exchanged emails with John Podesta.
	It's quite a lot.
	Including the fact-checked false girl.
	She's also in his email.
	Fact-checked false girl.
	This is interesting to listen to.
	You say things doesn't make it true.
	One of my proudest moments of her is her standing up and saying with courage and clarity, Steve Bannon's own words and Donald Trump's own words, the platform that they gave to white supremacists, white nationalists, and it is a very...
	Very important moment in our history as our country.
	And I think as, you know, his presidency goes forward, I'm going to be very glad to have been part of the campaign that tried to skin.
	Hey Jen, do you think, do you think that I, excuse me, she said white supremacists.
	I know it's mentioned a lot on your website too.
	Do you think I ran a campaign where white supremacists had a platform?
	Are you going to look me in the face and tell me that?
	Did you look at you in the face again?
	Do you think you could have just had a decent message for the white working class voters?
	You think this woman who has nothing in common with anybody...
	I'm not saying that's what you won, but that's kind of a campaign that was running.
	These counties, we flipped over 200 counties that President Obama won and Donald Trump just won.
	You think that's because of what you just said or because people aren't ready for a woman president?
	Really?
	How about it's Hillary Clinton?
	She doesn't connect with people.
	How about they have nothing in common with her?
	How about you had no economic message?
	We are.
	You guys are not.
	They want this to be about strategists.
	That's right.
	You guys are punching down.
	It's unbelievable.
	You guys are punching down.
	What's going on?
	What does that even mean?
	I don't...
	I don't know.
	Maybe we should do what we usually do.
	Punching down.
	I don't think you're going to find it in...
	Urban Dictionary, punch up?
	Punch down me and ask Dr.
	Vinny, the wine spectator.
	Oh, the guy who has credits.
	Punching down is a methodology for winemaking.
	There you go.
	That's what it is.
	Stop making wine.
	What else could it mean?
	What you want, when you buy it, look, for example, you can find the owners and you ask them to use a punchdown technique or a pump over.
	Okay, well maybe they're talking about wine.
	I don't know.
	I haven't heard this either.
	Punchdown.
	Punchdown.
	Punching down.
	You know who he is.
	You're talking about one Steve Bannon.
	Well, there's another Steve Bannon.
	There's another Steve Bannon as the CEO of Breitbart.
	He himself has said that was his platform for the alt-right.
	Folks from the platform, just two weeks ago, in the rise of the alt-right, which is now part of the mainstream of our politics, America is for white people.
	So don't tell me.
	Yeah, that's the thinking, John.
	America is for white people.
	...politics.
	America is for white people.
	So don't tell me...
	And that is the kind of platform...
	That is the kind...
	There's a video of it.
	No, no, no.
	Prove yourself of what you just said.
	I think she was referring to the Hale Trump video, I think.
	Oh, there's a video of it.
	Karen, prove yourself.
	Okay?
	Prove yourself.
	The alt-right is the mainstream American politics.
	No, I said now they've come to the mainstream.
	Part of what Donald Trump did in this campaign was to mainstream the alt-right.
	I actually have a question about that specifically for the Clinton campaign.
	By bringing Steve Bannon into the campaign and now appointing him to the White House and Jeff Sessions potentially as our Attorney General.
	You guys are bitter.
	There's a question about the alt-right.
	It just goes on like that.
	There's got to be more and I would love to hear it.
	Let me just jump into two things that were said there.
	One was Hillary Clinton had no message, didn't connect with voters.
	Of course, it's easy for the winning party to say that.
	Why don't we listen to Andrea Mitchell, known elitist on MSNBCs, because she has the research and she knows what happened.
	They were very protective of her.
	And the reason was they were hurting because, not only because she lost and she's in pain, they're in pain, but because it was so nasty coming from the other side.
	Nasty.
	People don't like her, you know, she's, that was the, that's what they were saying, you know, your candidate is not relatable.
	And what Mandy Grumwald said is that all of her focus groups showed that people related to Hillary Clinton as a man.
	As though she was a commander of chief.
	She said, I've elected six women senators.
	I've never had a candidate.
	People view her as a man.
	They did not see the humanity in her.
	Wow.
	How about that, huh?
	Clip of the day.
	Vote for me.
	I'm Hillary.
	Clip of the day.
	Dynamite, huh?
	Well, yeah, but that's a radical interpretation.
	I think the better one, which I have, Is Shields and Brooks 2.
	This is the analysis.
	And this is not Brooks, you know, who's lost control in the New York Times.
	This is Mark Shields, the guy who represents the Democrats in this debate that these two have.
	Going to the center would violate all the momentum you feel on the left.
	But I do think there's some case to be made for it.
	Are you saying that's what happened in this election?
	I mean, in 2016?
	Well, they culturally lost.
	I mean, part of the problem is simply Democrats as individuals, not as a political party, are moving to a very few places, and so they're clustering.
	And that's just a demographic problem for the party.
	When Barack Obama was re-elected in 2012 with the majority of the vote in the country, first president since Eisenhower to win a popular majority in consecutive elections, He failed to carry a majority of congressional districts.
	That hasn't happened since 1960.
	I mean, so the Democrats are not competitive in large swaths of the country.
	I mean, they're a coastal party.
	I think they've become, and I think Nancy Pelosi bears some of the burden on this.
	I think they've become too culturally liberal a party.
	I think that there's been a willingness to emphasize LBGTQ issues rather than working class issues of people and declining incomes and families falling behind and carrier jobs leaving.
	I mean, I think that has been, that the Democrats have become a party that, quite honestly, is more emphasizing the cultural issues.
	And I think that's been to their disadvantage in the National Appeal.
	Hmm.
	Well.
	I kind of like that.
	Yeah.
	Analysis.
	I do have to balance it out, though.
	I mean, if you're going to lay down heavy stuff like that, we got to balance it out with some cotton candy for the cortex, my friend.
	You know what it means.
	No.
	The view.
	Oh, God.
	I don't know why I repressed that.
	Yeah.
	You're going to like it.
	Let's listen to The View's opinions on this.
	What are the ratings on The View?
	They must be really good.
	They're not bad for daytime.
	They're competitive.
	But they are the voice for women in America on television during the day.
	Then later we get Ellen.
	Well, I think Ellen is for the voice of women in America, but this...
	Yeah.
	By the way, they voted for Hillary as a man.
	That is also a little bit of covert language that she's a dyke.
	And I say specifically that, not lesbian.
	But, you know, that's kind of calling her out.
	Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
	Actually, you might be reading too little.
	You never know.
	Now, also in your clip, they talked about Jeff Sessions.
	Yeah, Jeff Sessions.
	Okay, well, Jeff Sessions came up.
	By the way, I've been in contact with his office.
	I called him twice, maybe.
	You didn't record it.
	You were going to record the call.
	No, no, it's illegal.
	I can't do that.
	Oh, that's right.
	Sorry.
	No, I do it for information.
	The first time I ran into him, I called and got their...
	She turned me on to some sites that have these videos that I can get that the Senate actually produces, not C-SPAN, and these don't go on C-SPAN. And also, I thought they were a day to get me off the phone, but they were at least talked to me, and they were very cordial.
	It seemed like a very professional operation, so I take it that Sessions is probably a decent manager, as opposed to Chaffee, who won't even return calls.
	They won't send you emails that they promised.
	They're a douchebag.
	Yeah.
	And what was your question for Sessions?
	He was on a couple of the committees during...
	This was...
	I first called him during an era when the Senate was run by the Democrats.
	And he was the one of the...
	He was working with the White House on one of the environmental things.
	And he had said some things, and I needed to get a hold of the original...
	Video.
	So I can take a clip from it.
	And I did get a clip from it.
	And I was asking him how to do this and where I could get it and all this other stuff.
	And maybe some follow-up questions.
	I'm not sure.
	But they were very cordial.
	It seemed like a kind of a...
	But they weren't going to let me talk for too long.
	Okay.
	Well, The View discussed...
	The View discussed...
	And by the way, also with Sessions, he denies all this supposed racism when we have Hillary, you know, with big buddies of Bird, who was a Ku Klux Klan member.
	Ku Klux Klan.
	And I don't know what they've got against Sessions, except for one thing.
	He's extremely global warming skeptical.
	Well, they don't talk about that.
	And this isn't Joy or Whoopi who are talking.
	It's the right-wing girl.
	I forget her name.
	Kind of right-wingy girl.
	And then Sunny Hostin, who is not only not a right-wing girl, she is a broken record.
	The secret word is bigot.
	I do think, like, there are several cards that we can play.
	We can play the sexism card very easily.
	The racism card can also be played.
	It can be so dangerous.
	You can play all of them.
	I know, but one thing, I think, you know, we looked at the hiring of Jeff Sessions for Attorney General, and these were unfounded accusations from 30 years ago.
	He's a bigot.
	But listen, but wait a second.
	If you're in a courtroom, okay, there are claps here, but if you're in a courtroom, there is no hard...
	Somebody testified under oath that he called an African-American man a boy.
	I get this, but he also testified that he did not.
	So it's one person against another.
	And if you look at the whole picture, Jeff Sessions also was a champion and advocate for Rosa Parks to get a memorial.
	Do not want to be in the seat defending Jeff Sessions.
	I'm not defending it, but listen, if you look at the whole scope, we go by facts.
	There was no facts.
	It was completely unsubstantiated.
	I don't think the Assistant United States Attorney sat under oath.
	Okay, but just let me finish.
	So Jeff Sessions, also prosecuted members of the KKK, Jeff Sessions, his right-hand man for a very long time that he hired, was an African-American.
	He championed and advocated for Rosa Parks.
	And he's a bigot.
	He's just a bigot.
	It doesn't matter.
	He's a bigot.
	He's a bigot.
	I don't care what you say.
	He's a bigot.
	The View ladies come up with the idea.
	The worst.
	Remember I said that the women of America, if they really wanted to stop Donald Trump, should have employed Lissa Strada.
	No more sex.
	No more sex, I tell you.
	Well, The View kind of has heard of this, but nah, they got it backwards.
	Question for men out there, okay?
	Are you listening, you guys?
	Yeah, we're listening.
	We're listening.
	Have you noticed that your wife is disgusted by the sight of you lately?
	Would she rather get a root canal than see you naked?
	Well, you shouldn't have voted for Trump, okay?
	One therapist calls it the Trump bedroom backlash because her clients have lost their sex drive since Trump won.
	So here's my question.
	Is Trump causing electile dysfunction?
	I think women feel the need to assert their authority and their power.
	Because I feel like they saw this guy come to power.
	They feel like this guy came into power who didn't respect women.
	And, you know, sex for women, I think, is a vulnerable experience more than men.
	I think they feel vulnerable.
	What?
	Hello?
	Hello?
	I don't appreciate you speaking on my behalf.
	No, that's right.
	We've heard this from them before.
	Men just like to put it in.
	We're done.
	No, there's no emotions, right?
	No, not at all.
	No.
	Just gonna stick it in.
	Yeah, that's incredibly insulting.
	It really is.
	Sex for women, I think, is a vulnerable experience more than men.
	I think they feel vulnerable, and I think it's their way of sort of lashing out, not at their man, but at society.
	Like, wait a minute.
	No, you do have to respect me.
	I am in control.
	I can still be in control of my life, even though this guy is in power now, who's running the country, who has said some things about women that concern...
	Stop.
	Do they ever mention that the majority of women...
	Voted for Trump?
	Coming right up.
	Guy is in power now, who's running the country, who has said some things about women that concern me and that make me a little insecure about where I'm going to be, where I'm going to be with my job, where I'm going to be, am I going to be respected the same way?
	What's going to happen to me?
	And I think they go into their bedroom and they face their man, and it's like a power dynamic that they're kind of working through.
	I get it.
	This election was different.
	If you look at the stats, I think 36 anti-women hate crimes were reported within one week of the election.
	Anti-women?
	Yes, yes.
	And that's according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.
	And so I think, to Jen's point, women are feeling very vulnerable.
	Remember, we talked about the fact that women after the election were going out in droves to get an IUD. Oh, yeah, that's right.
	Because they thought that their birth control would be taken away from that.
	Well, yeah, we are impacted politically by this.
	Profoundly by it.
	But I think that the sex drive does die.
	And, you know, we are building a wall around our vaginas.
	Yeah.
	I was ahead of Trump on that one.
	I already had a couple walls.
	Because the guy says it's okay if he would grab a woman by her, you know what.
	And women are either a 10 or a 1 or this one's fat.
	And you voted for that schmuck?
	You voted for that?
	I'm not sleeping with you.
	War on man is in full overdrive.
	Yeah, the war on man takes precedent.
	I like the one girl who says, I already have something.
	She's going to be able to wall around her vagina.
	She says, I already have three or something.
	Yeah, no kidding.
	And there was something else in there that was...
	Yeah, it was this...
	I thought it was kind of insulting to women, which is that women are the first...
	Yeah, well, it's very insulting.
	It makes women sound like a bunch of dingbat dummies to say that they rushed out right after the election and bought IUDs because they thought birth control would be taken away.
	In what universe would you think that?
	Unless you're completely stupid and have been inundated by the media bullcrap because birth control is not being taken away from anyone ever.
	Ever.
	Certain forms of free birth control may be taken away, I think is what they're afraid of.
	Oh, they didn't say that.
	They said birth control.
	Why would you get an IUD? I mean, it's like, maybe it's because it was covered by their insurance and it won't be.
	But they don't break it down that way.
	They just say that people think that birth control will no longer be available.
	Yeah.
	So are women that stupid to actually think that?
	Well, I think they're propagating stupidity.
	That's why I play these clips.
	This has to be stopped.
	Can't be stopped.
	Smart women.
	Final one, just so you know.
	Most smart women that listen to our show, I would say, which most of the women that listen to our show are pretty sharp, I would say, none of them listen to this show except you.
	You're the only woman who listens to that show.
	Wow, you did not just say that, did you?
	Wow!
	I'm the only woman that listens to that show?
	I'm sorry.
	I was just kidding.
	I thought it would be fine.
	I thought you'd get a kick out of it.
	Alright, final clip.
	Just to pester you.
	So is Clinton's camp right about running a...
	that the Trump campaign ran a racist campaign?
	Or are they just being sorely elusive?
	That's even overstating it.
	I don't think they ran a racist campaign, but when she says, are you going to look at me and say we gave a platform to white supremacists, that is...
	A fact.
	It doesn't mean that everyone that voted for Trump...
	It's a fact.
	It's a fact.
	They ran a racist campaign.
	It's a fact.
	Everyone that voted for Trump is a racist.
	But as Whoopi says over and over, all the racists voted for Trump.
	So I think the fact that you won, just be honest, it's not even admitting anything.
	The part that I find really upsetting is that as I watch her, you're the victor.
	Now be okay with the facts, because she gets personally offended by that, but they all along their campaign campaign, this was one of my biggest beefs with them.
	They would jump in in 140 characters constantly about everything else.
	That's another thing I keep hearing everywhere.
	140 characters in 140 characters in 140.
	I can do it in 140.
	Trump in 140.
	It's 140 characters.
	I keep hearing this.
	Yeah, that's interesting.
	That one, you had to beg them to say, oh, we don't associate with them, and it took ten times to ask them.
	Right.
	So disavowing at the very end.
	No, it didn't.
	That's just a lie.
	Yeah, it's a lie.
	Take ten times.
	I would exaggerate every day.
	Disavowing at the very end, which Kellyanne said on this show, he disavowed, he disavowed.
	Yeah, two weeks later, and we had to ask you a thousand times.
	Like, if you really...
	A thousand?
	It's gone from ten to a thousand times.
	In five seconds.
	It doesn't matter, John.
	It doesn't matter.
	It's like, you know, this is fact.
	This is just a fact, and it's just going to be that way, and you and I and everyone else who knows the truth will have to live with it.
	It's like, if you really felt something, you should have had a visceral reaction to some of the things that happened.
	Oh, he didn't have a visceral enough reaction.
	Visceral.
	And they never did.
	The other thing about it that I would say is, yes, we're sore losers, because a lot of the reason he won was based on racism, the Russian hacking, lies, continuous lying that went on, and the intrusion of the FBI at the last minute there.
	All of that seems to have basically distorted the whole election.
	So, yeah, we're sore losers, because it wasn't really won legitimately.
	Amen.
	Fist bump.
	Love you, mean it.
	Fact check, false.
	Mm-hmm.
	Well, I have to agree with him on one point.
	I think Comey, coming in and out of this thing, did cost Hillary some votes.
	Of course it did.
	Of course it did.
	And so that's the only point that they make that I think is correct.
	Well, I do have one more with Joy Reid.
	Oh, Joy Reid.
	Yeah.
	She's the one who is in the video.
	She's the new superstar.
	I don't get it because she's as dumb as a firefly.
	Oh, they love her.
	She's got a lot of personality.
	A.M. Joy, yeah.
	And she's a total bigot.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	But she has a new angle.
	She has a new angle.
	Joy Reid.
	We're doomed.
	Remember, you know, Donald Trump, who did not serve his country, who was, you know, the correct age, the appropriate age to go to Vietnam, got five deferments, was never asked about it, by the way, during the entirety of the campaign for 18 months.
	Well, aren't you in the news business?
	Why didn't you ask the question?
	I don't remember that.
	Did Trump say not getting a venereal disease was my Vietnam?
	Is that a quote that I missed somewhere?
	I don't remember that quote either.
	There was a couple of...
	He did say something about service.
	His version of service was something, but it had nothing to do with venereal disease.
	To defend the fact that he's never sacrificed...
	I think she just took the...
	This is third hand.
	This is getting pretty pathetic.
	Yeah.
	When are they going to get over this?
	I mean, I don't even want to cover this anymore.
	This election's over.
	Well, if it wasn't...
	I wouldn't play it if it wasn't funny.
	Well, I've got to...
	Hold on, let me finish.
	Let me finish.
	He's just interrupting.
	Excuse me!
	I'm sorry, I should have said, excuse me, let's listen to the clip.
	Not one Trump interviewer, not one person who had the opportunity to interview him.
	And every person, every man who's run for president since the Vietnam era has had to account for the Vietnam era.
	It's been a searing part of our politics.
	Donald Trump has never asked about it.
	They have essentially been a family whose entire service has been to themselves, to their own pocketbooks, to their own egos, to their own He needs.
	And he is a bottomless pit of need.
	This is a needy, narcissistic man who is not a man who understands and can conceptualize sacrifice for one's country.
	So, yeah, if I had a son or daughter in the military, I would be concerned.
	You know, Kate and Dawson this weekend on our show was talking about the fact that now anything with Trump's name on it around the world becomes a target.
	If I'm in the military, I'm very concerned.
	I don't want that to be my child's mission, to defend the name of Trump, the person of the state.
	That isn't what we are as Americans.
	Yes, I hear the new uniforms.
	When did the Democrats become these warmongers that everyone has to be in the military now?
	Not only that, but they're going to have Trump on their uniform, because, you know, that'll make them a target.
	Oh, brother.
	I know.
	Isn't it beautiful?
	Unbelievable.
	I love the bottomless pit of need.
	That's pretty good.
	Yeah, that is good.
	I actually like that phrase.
	I want to thank two people, John.
	Let me see.
	First of all, Sir Cross Stitch, who sent me a book.
	And I had not heard of that.
	Actually, I know the author, William Engdahl, the lost hegemon, whom the gods would destroy.
	Now, he's the guy that got me on the track of pipeline theory.
	So, who knows what I'll come up with after I've read this tome.
	Okay.
	And then there was another gift that came in.
	This is really nice.
	This is from Kilo4CharlieDeltaNovember, Cale Nelson.
	He's from Ham Radio 360, the Ham Radio 360 podcast, which I've said, if you want to hear a good ham radio podcast, that's the one.
	I really appreciate what you and John do with the No Agenda podcast.
	I appreciate how you genuinely interact with your audience, giving them a true value-for-value experience.
	I'm a stay-at-home dad of five.
	So monetary gifts are a stretch for me right now, but wanted to express my sincere thanks in the form of an HR 360 beanie, which I have on my head right now.
	You got a beanie?
	Well, hold on.
	I'm thinking this may come in handy during your long operating nights out of the airstream of consciousness, especially with winter field day approaching.
	Yeah, this is true.
	I hear that a beanie is pretty useless in California unless you're a metro snowflake protesting for Bernie, so sorry, John, your baseball hat is on the way.
	Would you prefer a beanie instead of the baseball hat?
	No, no, no.
	I don't want a beanie.
	You'll get the baseball hat.
	But I do like the idea of you wearing a beanie in that trailer with your microphone and you'll be talking and you have a window open.
	Somebody walks by and sees some guy in his trailer talking, just yakking into a microphone, big cans on his big headphones, yakking away.
	With a beanie on your head, I think they'd cordon off the area.
	Call the park ranger, quick!
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C! Where the C stands for courage and commitment, Dvorak!
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames.
	And nights out there.
	And in the morning, too, Nick the Rat.
	Nick brought us the album artwork for episode 882, Fact Check False, the title of that, and of course his fabulous image, his Photoshop of Trudeau Castro, which a lot of people...
	It took a double take.
	Yeah, a lot of people didn't understand it.
	I believe that's true, and I think that's what made it such a good piece.
	Yeah, I agree.
	It's because I didn't get it at first.
	I looked at it, and I think you mentioned it or something.
	I said, holy crap, that's not Fidel at all.
	That is Trudeau with a Fidel beard.
	And it looks just like it.
	Now, a lot of people wrote to me and said, ah, a lot of Canadians, of course, this is not possible.
	The Canadians are bent out of shape over this.
	Oh, yeah.
	Let's back up the theory.
	Let's discuss this so people may not listen to that show.
	Justin Trudeau's mom, Margaret...
	Who you described as a known slut.
	Yeah, well, she had sex with her.
	In a very thoughtful way.
	Did I say slut?
	I don't think I said slut.
	Oh, maybe not.
	Maybe not.
	No, but she was promiscuous, I think, was the term I used.
	And she was very promiscuous with the Rolling Stones, with Charlie Watts, and Mick Jagger.
	I mean, that's really two ends of the spectrum there.
	You're going to do Jagger and the accountant?
	Yeah, she's a collector.
	She's...
	She's a collector.
	We know the type.
	Oh yeah.
	However, the first official visit to Cuba was in 1976, not prior to 1971 when Trudeau was born.
	But that, of course, is an official visit.
	We don't know about what else might have happened.
	Well, you could always go to Cuba from Canada.
	Yeah, that's true.
	I don't think it's ever been blockaded from travel from Canada, I don't believe.
	I know that's the way everyone who's been going to Cuba recently before they lifted the blockade.
	They go through Canada or Mexico.
	And you get paper documents and they take them out of your passport and nobody knows that you went there.
	So it's possible that she could have, but the dates don't match up your right.
	But the coincidental look...
	I mean, the guy has the same eyes and that cute little smile.
	Yeah.
	Look, Castro.
	Hey, but, you know, it's okay, Scandinavians.
	I mean, we all know that Chelsea Clinton isn't actually Bill's kid.
	We know that, too.
	I mean, we're no better than you.
	Are they throwing that at us?
	No, I'm throwing...
	I'm saying, hey, we know.
	We know.
	We know how it works.
	Yeah, we know that's Webster-Hubble's kid.
	Come on!
	Anyway...
	I was at lunch with one of my liberal friends.
	If you live in California, all your friends are liberal.
	Wait, you were out of the house?
	Yeah.
	I actually went to an event last night, too.
	The New York Times held an event for Markoff, who's retiring.
	How old is he?
	What?
	How old is he?
	Like 64, 65.
	He's going to retire, huh?
	Well, okay.
	Yeah, so he went to the event.
	We don't know what he's going to do.
	It was free lunch?
	Is that why you went?
	No, it was a nighttime thing.
	I went because I was hounded to go, to be honest about it.
	I mean, I see Markoff all the time.
	I don't need to go to the event.
	It was a thing for a friend.
	You got to show up.
	Otherwise, you're a douche.
	You got to go.
	You're local.
	You have no excuse.
	I did have a funeral I could have gone to, but it was back in New York.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Whose funeral?
	Bill McCrone died and I had been invited to the funeral.
	I couldn't get back there because I just couldn't do it.
	You went to the next best thing.
	I went to the other thing.
	Because all your friends are either retiring or dying.
	There's not much else to do.
	This is not good.
	I agree.
	This is the way it goes.
	When I was talking to my liberal friend that we were having lunch with, the one who lost a bet that we talked about previously.
	Ah, yes, yes, yes, yes.
	He brought up, he's like a fretter.
	He just frets.
	He's worried to death he's going to drop dead any minute.
	You know the kind.
	And I brought up this story, which I think is true, and once you get over 60, I think this is when it sets in.
	When you watch television, or you watch any event, and they have the guys dead...
	Died.
	A guy died.
	And they have his year of birth and year of death at the bottom.
	They have these two dates.
	You always make the calculation.
	Well, I was born 10 years after that, so I could probably live another 10 years.
	Or, oh shit, this guy's younger than me.
	And so you start doing this just kind of routinely.
	And he admits he does the same thing.
	I know I do it.
	Yeah, I don't do it yet.
	You probably don't.
	But I do, well, because of you and other people who are a little older than I am in my life, I do consider it.
	Then here's how it works.
	Holy crap, if Dvorak dies, I've got no job.
	That's how it goes.
	That's different.
	That's how it goes.
	That's different.
	I can say the same thing.
	You get hit by a bus or die of mold poisoning.
	Yeah, well, there you go.
	Anyway, so it was a funny event.
	It was filled with the obots, and there was a couple people there I could have yacked at, but instead I just met as many people as I could, introduced myself, and talked about the No Agenda show.
	Did you bring CDs?
	No, I would have been gauche.
	Wait, you bumped into someone who listens to the show?
	Yeah, he's a writer up in Oregon, and he was down for something from Marco's thing.
	And he's, oh yeah, no agenda.
	We talked a little bit about podcasting and the future and all the rest.
	Everybody thinks podcasting is a future.
	We ran into two quite gorgeous women who, one of them is a podcast junkie.
	And I definitely got them to listen to the show at some point.
	Although they'll be sick and fine.
	What were they doing there?
	Apparently, they weren't there to see Markoff.
	Their husbands were.
	And so they were just talking to myself.
	So you're chatting up the married gals?
	Yeah.
	Hey, girls.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Sure you have heard of me.
	Well, here's what's funny about that.
	And I think this is a trend.
	As I introduced, I was talking about the show because this one girl said, what are you doing?
	That's what I said the whole time.
	This was kind of this humiliating thing where you're not a writer anymore.
	What do you do?
	What do you do?
	Did you actually say it?
	Yes.
	Oh, no.
	Yes.
	To everybody.
	I'm a podcaster.
	I'm a podcaster.
	Do you say it a little too loud as well?
	I'm a podcaster.
	Probably.
	But when you say you're a podcaster, in this group, this is like a New York Times, an East Coast kind of event.
	They're all impressed!
	Wow!
	That's cool.
	Yeah, I thought so.
	So I'm talking to these two women, and one of them, as I mentioned in the No Agenda podcast, she's on her phone, and she's got my whole bio up.
	Oh, I see you went to Cal, he says to me.
	I said, what are you doing?
	What are you doing?
	Due diligence on me?
	Apparently that's what I think a lot of people do nowadays, as soon as they meet you.
	What we need for you, John, is one of those round buttons, a little too big, you know, like a vote for Hillary button, only it'll say, I'm a podcaster.
	Ask me about my podcast.
	Yes.
	Wouldn't that be great?
	I'm a podcaster.
	Ask me about, or how about ask me about podcasting?
	Okay.
	So they both went home with you, yeah?
	So they both went home with you to see your studio.
	Oh, they did.
	Oh, they were there.
	Damn.
	You're losing your touch.
	I've lost my touch years ago.
	But it was a very interesting eventful night because I got to see a few people I haven't seen for a long time.
	Again, we didn't talk much.
	I did get to drop a few political bombs in there.
	Oh, no.
	Well, my meme about, well, Hillary won the popular vote because California gave her 3 million votes more than Trump, and that's where that comes from.
	It's just California.
	Oh, and how did they respond to that?
	Most people said, oh, I never thought of that.
	And this is journalists and writers?
	Yeah.
	And hot babes.
	Yeah.
	What a life.
	The life of a podcaster.
	Life of a bon vivant podcaster.
	Bon vivant podcaster.
	Now you're talking.
	Bon vivant.
	Alright, let's thank our executive and associate executive producers, Mrs.
	DeVoreg.
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	Sir Dwayne.
	Who was just moving his way to become Grand Duke as fast as he can with $883 flat.
	So he's actually got a show number.
	Oh, fantastic, yes.
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	Enjoyed clicking on the selfie and seeing the 800 donation there.
	I felt the need to join the 883 club.
	Keep up the outstanding analysis, and yes, please play a Sharpton flub or two with karma to all knights and dames.
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	Thanks to you, Ed.
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	There is no real conflict.
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	He gets paid millions of dollars while we languish.
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	Since Brown County, Wisconsin, where I live, already has a baron.
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	Actually, it started Friday.
	You needed rain, didn't you?
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	That's it.
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	Alright.
	A little on the short side.
	Shorter than usual.
	Alright.
	Well...
	Heading to Christmas.
	Heading to show 888.
	That's right.
	And we, of course, really appreciate the executive producers and associate executive producers.
	That's why they get the thank you up front.
	Very much like Hollywood.
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	Dvorak.org.
	So whether it's raining or whether it's dry, you need to go out there and propagate the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Shut up, Slade.
	Shut up, Slade.
	I wanted to bring something up since you sent me the video, which I watched.
	Well, before we veer away from the campaign, I do have one last thing.
	Oh, sure.
	And then we can go to your video.
	I don't remember which one.
	I do this to you all the time.
	I'm sorry.
	But this is the one, this clip, I just want to get it out of the way.
	This is the clip where the death threat, this is the, I feel bad about the Democrats being so upset that they can't do the thing in Harvard without screeching at each other and the death threats now to electoral college folk.
	Yeah.
	By the way, which is against the federal laws, you can't try to influence an election through threats.
	In the United States, following Donald Trump's victory, an elector from a state that the president elects once says he has faced pressure and even death threats to change his decision in the Electoral College vote later this month.
	A youth vice chairman of the Michigan Republican Party, Michael Benarian, described to us the messages that he received.
	Unfortunately, this election cycle was pretty divisive on both sides of the aisle, and that's bled over into the weeks following it.
	And as a presidential elector from Michigan, unfortunately, I've just been inundated with hundreds and hundreds of emails, Facebook messages, letters to my home about four or five a day, tweets.
	And in those messages, unfortunately, some of them have been death threats, death wishes, and just generally angry, angry messages from people who can't accept the results of the election.
	U.S. Electoral College voters are also facing other kinds of pressure ahead of the official election on December 19th.
	More than 4.7 million people have signed a petition calling on electors to ignore their state's votes and instead cast their ballots for Hillary Clinton.
	Among electors themselves, some have been trying to convince others to vote for a compromised Republican candidate in a bid to stop Trump.
	Yeah, we already know that that's...
	The thing that I find interesting about this is that two television series have had this form of scenario because what they are talking about, and I've looked at some of the numbers and reports that are being bandied around, the idea is to get the vote to the House instead of the Electoral College because whatever they want to try and do would somehow stop the 270 electoral votes.
	And what's interesting about it to me is that on both Veep and Madam Secretary, in both cases, they've had similar storylines about elections, with a woman in an election, and it going to the House of Representatives for the final vote.
	It's just noteworthy.
	I wonder whether those are not coincidences.
	I wonder if the Lear operation has got into the story.
	You gotta think.
	You gotta think they're part of that.
	No doubt.
	I mean, there's so much...
	Oh, crap.
	I might as well play this now.
	Here's a fine example of the Lear Foundation at work.
	No doubt about it.
	Maybe it was done tongue-in-cheek.
	Maybe.
	No.
	This is last man standing, Tim Allen, who will never work again in Hollywood, so maybe that's why he's doing this stuff.
	This is a little clip.
	From one of the most recent episodes where he has to write some speech or something for his daughter's school.
	And so he writes his speech and then the speech has to be sent in to be checked by the officials at the school to see if it's okay.
	Well, here it is.
	Well, I hate to brag.
	My kid, I love to brag.
	It's fantastic, you know.
	But we're good under pressure.
	I'm kind of like Lincoln in that way.
	He was so great they want to kill him off at the end of the first movie.
	Do you want me to give you some notes before you send it in?
	Why, send it in?
	What do you mean?
	The faculty committee needs to approve it after they check for microaggressions.
	Microaggressions?
	You mean like midget warriors?
	No, they're objectionable words or phrases.
	For instance, midget warriors.
	I know what microaggressions are.
	It's a liberal attack at free speech.
	And a lot of fun if you do them right.
	The university has a list of stuff they don't allow speakers to say, you know, to protect the students.
	From what, ideas?
	It's just the way that my school does things, Dad.
	Please, my grade is riding on this.
	Fine.
	So he concedes.
	Yeah.
	It's funny.
	Yeah.
	I have a, well, just to follow up that clip with a clip that's similar, only this is real.
	This is a clip of, it's an RT clip.
	Let me see if I can find the name of it here.
	Censored Books?
	It actually follows the...
	Oh, actually, no.
	It's the Censored Books yoga clip.
	Okay.
	Does it need a setup?
	Not really.
	Educational establishments have seen controversy before with perceived political over-correctness.
	Warwick University stopped a human rights campaign from giving a speech amid fears that she would incite hatred on account of her atheism.
	The University of Ottawa cancelled yoga classes over, quote, cultural appropriation and cultural genocide concerns.
	I think we'd heard that.
	Wouldn't it happen in the States as well, someone who was doing yoga?
	Yoga, I think it may have, but the more I think about it, because a lot of the people that would be yoga fans would also be social justice warriors.
	Yeah.
	So using this, you go to yoga?
	You don't think that's cultural appropriation?
	It encourages genocide?
	Yeah.
	I don't know where it encourages genocide.
	And it's making fun of camels?
	I mean, you can't do this yoga stuff anymore.
	Yoga is cultural appropriation of the highest order.
	Ha ha ha!
	Wow, that is pretty good, isn't it?
	Yeah, I love it.
	Have you noticed, by the way, and maybe I should start collecting some clips regarding this.
	It appears to me, and also some conversations I've had with the millennial generation, that they don't actually understand what the word racist means.
	I hear people calling race, and I do it now as a joke with Tina, you know, she'll say something, that's racist, even though it has nothing to do with race.
	I hear this all over the place.
	We need to start tracking this.
	Oh, that's racist, even though it could be cultural appropriation.
	That's not necessarily racism, if at all.
	Do you not notice this?
	I've noticed, in fact, that when Craig Ferguson had his Late Late Night show, he used to do this bit routinely, and just out of the blue, for no reason, call someone a racist.
	Yeah.
	for humor yeah and he tended to call his producer who's sitting over there you know like mark like morty on the on the larry sanders show he's sitting over there on the side and he would say he'd have a discussion with the robot let's say right they won't let us do that bit yeah and then he turned to the producer and call him a racist that's racist that you won't let me do that right exactly yeah that's what's going on yeah
	I'd like our producers to see if we can collect some clips of people not understanding what racism is.
	But it really has been almost redefined.
	You've got to be careful with these words.
	Racist.
	Maybe it's because they dropped the T and it's just racist.
	Maybe that's it.
	Maybe it's a new word.
	I had a couple of clips where somebody said...
	Where they're dropping the T. I didn't make these.
	I just saw they drop the T when they talk.
	It's like the Putin girl that used to be in Russia today.
	Somebody said, it's going to be a horrible threat to us.
	And she somehow put the T at the end of threats.
	I think you can use it in a sentence, though.
	Let me ask you if you're racist.
	Yeah.
	One more little political thing I did want to pull out, just because it's interesting for those of us in the magazine business, which, let me see, that's only one of us, kind of.
	I don't want to take you off the track, but before you do that, weren't you going to talk about some video?
	I don't like to see you tease something.
	No, because we went off on this track.
	I'm going to come around to the video in a moment.
	Okay.
	Right?
	We recall that Newsweek Distributed like 100,000 Madam President magazines.
	And of course they also had the President Trump magazine, but they actually distributed the Madam President magazine.
	Did you ever get a hold of one?
	I know you were talking about it.
	No.
	Because of course they are collector's items.
	Yes.
	Well, the true backstory is even more frightening regarding Newsweek.
	Now Newsweek...
	Back in the day, I remember my parents used to subscribe.
	I think my mom, when I left the house, gave me a subscription for Christmas to Newsweek.
	A paper subscription.
	But of course, it then went full digital.
	It got bought and sold, too.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Wasn't it...
	Bloomberg was the last owner that I know of.
	I think they may still own them.
	So then they decided to come out and do a print edition.
	There was a big, whoa, we're doing print!
	We're going crazy over here!
	We're doing print!
	Well, it turns out there's a lot going on behind the scenes in the print.
	Here is the political editor of Newsweek, Matthew Cooper.
	Do you know him?
	I've never heard of him.
	Okay.
	He's going to explain what happened, what went wrong.
	That's right.
	The International Business Times bought Newsweek from the Daily Beast.
	I don't think that Bloomberg owned them.
	They owned Businessweek.
	Well, here's his explanation of what happened.
	Newsweek, like a lot of publications, puts out special commemorative issues.
	You've probably seen them on the newspapers.
	You know, 75th anniversary of D-Day.
	We have one ad about Harrison Ford's acting career.
	I thought this was very interesting.
	I didn't realize that that was the big moneymaker these days for magazines.
	I think I know that, yeah.
	So all these specials, that's really how they make their money.
	Micro-collectibles, yeah.
	Micro-collectibles.
	Hold on.
	Isn't that what we call a giblet?
	It's similar, but a giblet is specific to Amazon.
	Right.
	Micro-collectibles.
	Well, apparently that's where the money's made.
	This is a big part of the magazine business now.
	And what we did for the election was the company that we subcontract to, as you said in the intro, produced two editions.
	One, President Trump.
	The other, Madam President.
	Right.
	They both, you know, the Madam President one mistakenly went out, which was the first embarrassment.
	Yeah.
	That should never have happened.
	But really, as you say, the writing in this is, shall we say, not up to the editor.
	Well, it's just pure throne-sniffing.
	I mean, it's just like DNC talking points.
	I mean, who on your staff wrote that?
	Well, no one on our staff wrote that.
	Again, we subcontracted out to a company that...
	But when you read it before it went out, what did you say?
	Well, no, we didn't, and that's...
	What do you mean?
	You didn't read the throne out?
	See, we subcontract these commemorative issues to a company, and this is pretty common in the magazine business.
	So it's sort of been done on a separate track, and we did not review it before it went out.
	Well, but what if they had reprinted MindConf or something?
	Well, if they had reprinted MindConf, that would have been even worse.
	There's no question.
	Look, even though we didn't, you know, over at Regular Newsweek didn't put it out, you know, we're ultimately responsible for the name.
	I think that's pretty interesting.
	Yeah, that's not really much of a surprise to me.
	I think what you're seeing is these, what used to be called advertorials, where all the magazines did it.
	They'd hire somebody, an outside firm, usually some company that does this as a specialty.
	They have a bunch of writers, and they're competent.
	And you just give them the money.
	They do the whole special issue.
	And it just goes in as an insert.
	But they decided to turn the magazine business inside out and make what would be an insert into the magazine.
	But that they didn't even read it.
	They put their name on it and didn't even read it.
	I'm not buying that completely because...
	In fact, I'm not buying it at all.
	Because I did a couple of these myself, and I remember doing one for a magazine, and they didn't like what I did.
	And they rewrote.
	I still got paid.
	But they looked that over, believe me.
	I like the term throne-sniffing, though.
	I like that.
	Yeah, throne-sniffing.
	Yeah, so you sent me a video, and it kind of tied in...
	Well, wait, wait.
	Since you brought up Newsweek...
	I hate to keep understanding this stuff.
	We're never going to talk about this video.
	I guarantee it.
	But you've got to play this, because Newsweek is mentioned in this report, and when I heard it, I go, oh, this is, this is, I caught this trend early, like a couple shows ago, or at least last show.
	And this is the rundown on Russian influence on voting.
	Oh boy, here we go.
	Beyond the U.S. election, and questioned the legitimacy of the Brexit.
	Wait, is this Guyanne?
	Yeah.
	Well, dude.
	Come on, man.
	Come on.
	We're trying to get people close to us.
	Chichicon.
	That's right, everybody.
	The star reporter of our team.
	We love her.
	She tweets us.
	We tweet back.
	The U.S. election and questioned the legitimacy of the Brexit vote based on the outlet's assertion that, quote-unquote, the Russian disinformation campaign may have influenced the outcome.
	The underlying suggestion in many of these reports is that Russia managed to sway voters.
	That maybe without Russia, Hillary Clinton would have won or Brexit would not have happened.
	It creates an image of Russia as this all-powerful game-changer.
	But that suggestion seems to disregard the ability of voters to think and decide for themselves.
	In Washington, I'm going to check out RT. Yeah.
	No Newsweek mention in there?
	No.
	Well, there's one of these clips that's very similar.
	Newsweek apparently is on board with the Russians.
	Of course.
	And Brexit.
	Of course.
	Yeah.
	And Brexit.
	And Brexit.
	I'm hearing more of this.
	By the way, Guyanne is not the only star on RT who we know.
	We also know Max Keiser.
	Yeah, we do.
	And I got a note from him today, this morning.
	What did he say?
	He said, we're in Austin.
	Can we interview you on Wednesday?
	Oh.
	And I said, hell yeah.
	You gotta do it.
	Hell yeah.
	I said, but only if Tina and I can take you two out for dinner, and we're going out to dinner on Tuesday.
	Oh, it's a double hit.
	It's a double header.
	Exactly.
	Nice.
	So it's Max and Stacy.
	The one who is going to interview you.
	Oh, Stacy Hebert.
	Yeah, his wife.
	Is that his wife?
	Yeah, we discussed this.
	Oh, I can't remember for one minute.
	Yeah, and actually, I'm surprised because we communicate through Twitter direct message for some reason.
	And you recall he had sent me a message and said, Hey, I'm going to be a knight one day.
	Ha ha, I love the show.
	And we talked about it on the show.
	And then we talked about Stacy and I said, Are they boning or whatever?
	You said that?
	Yeah.
	Oh, that's right.
	I remember that.
	But then he sent me another direct message after that.
	It was like, hey, I heard that you wanted to know what the relationship was between me and Stacy.
	We're married.
	And so I replied, well, I guess that answers the question about if you're boning or not.
	And I didn't hear anything after that.
	I was like, he didn't block me.
	You're lucky you got the interview.
	He didn't block me or anything.
	I hope he isn't pissed off about it.
	So I thought that was pretty bold, but yeah, it'll be fun.
	Kaiser's an interesting guy.
	No, I enjoy his theories.
	Stacy's the one that's actually, I think, smarter of the two insofar as down to earth.
	Yeah, please keep mentioning that.
	I'm sure they won't listen before the interview.
	That's really good, John.
	Good way to go.
	Good start.
	Yeah.
	Good prep.
	I'm just kidding, of course.
	Yeah.
	I'd like to talk about this video that you sent.
	Okay, here we go.
	And it kind of relates to the newsletter.
	We didn't discuss you putting the photo of me and Horowitz in the newsletter.
	I didn't think it was a great payoff for the subject line.
	Well, let's put it this way.
	For one thing, I don't think I need to discuss it because you tweeted it.
	Oh no, you don't need permission.
	I'm just saying, was it a great payoff?
	I haven't looked at the numbers yet, but I'll tell you this much.
	I look at numbers a lot when I do this newsletter.
	And if I don't tease a picture, the numbers drop off by 10%.
	I hear you.
	But...
	Did it pay off in money?
	If you wanted a funny picture of Horowitz and I, we have a couple that I didn't put on Twitter.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Well, okay, then give them to me.
	I'll put them in the Thursday newsletter.
	Now, there's the tease.
	Okay.
	I got a good one.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Good.
	But in the newsletter, you talked about how no one is asking why.
	I took a basic deconstruction of today's modern news reporting, which should be where, when, where, who, when, where, why, and who, when, where, whatever.
	There's five of the W's.
	And they leave the why out nowadays.
	If not the who.
	So, regarding pedophilia, And this, of course, relates to all the research and the weird coincidence.
	This crazy...
	Crazy art!
	Alright.
	Pizza game.
	Fine.
	Okay, this is the video of the Podesta house and the crazy art.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	All that stuff.
	But that's not the video I'm talking about.
	Oh.
	Bear with me.
	So I just wanted to remind people who are new to this program that for 10 years we have been talking pedo-bear on this show.
	Going back to Isle of Jersey, to Dutroux, to Boystown.
	Boystown, actually way before any of that.
	Boystown, USA. Look for that documentary.
	It's still available.
	It's harder and harder to find.
	Yeah, well, I'll put another copy in the show notes.
	The copy is getting worse, though.
	Made by Channel 4.
	It was never aired, but it did make it out onto the interwebs.
	Back in the day of Google Video, before there was YouTube.
	But also, Jimmy Savile.
	And all that stuff that's going on.
	So it is undeniable, and in my opinion, having researched this for 10 years now, 10 years, it is undeniable that there is a large correlation between people in government and pedophilia.
	And what I have deducted from my years of research is that this is primarily now used as a blackmail mechanism so that people will be in lockstep.
	Yeah, totally.
	So, regarding Pizzagate, now, it may very well be true, and it would not surprise me that all these people are involved in this crazy pedophilia ring, and it's interesting to me that this is all the research that's going on, but meanwhile...
	Police, politicians, school teachers were busted in an actual pedophile ring in Norway, and they have 175 terabytes of material that they've confiscated.
	In the UK, there is an incredible scandal going on now with football trainers who have abused kids who now are professional players and are coming out and saying this.
	Why is the question that you need to be asking?
	Stop with the idiocy, okay?
	It doesn't matter.
	We have proof for all these people.
	But there are actual people going to jail, and you might want to say, why?
	Why is this happening?
	And although I certainly subscribe to a mental health issue of people who have been abused, there is a percentage of likelihood they will abuse others.
	The video you sent me reminded me of a why question that I like the answer to.
	And that is the video that you sent me of David Icke.
	Well...
	I would say for people who are skeptical about David Icke, we like David Icke for one reason.
	He's extremely entertaining.
	His contrarian theories about things, which I think are many, I mean, off the wall and provably bogus in most instances.
	He presents a very interesting worldview that is just absolutely captivating.
	Yes, and his thesis...
	Is that there is a percentage of the population, which he pegs at about 4-5%, and he bases that on research a friend of his was doing for an iris scan database.
	It's in this video, which is in the show notes, of course.
	And this guy said, you know, about 4-5% of all the eyes that I analyzed for this retinal scan system were clearly reptile.
	Were reptile in nature.
	And what Ike asserts, Is that there is a certain percentage of the population which has more reptilian DNA. We all have a reptile brain.
	I think that's kind of accepted.
	They may not call it the reptile brain.
	But this is enlarged through DNA. And he, of course, then says this is the bloodlines.
	And then he shows how all these people are connected going back until, you know...
	As long as history goes, I guess, and how you're connected to all these people, including Vlad the Impaler, which apparently Obama is even related to somehow.
	But his assertion is ultimately that these reptilian people who live amongst us...
	Have a hungering for the inverted world of what we have.
	So, love and peace, no, they want hate.
	And one of the main things where they get their power from, whether it's true or not, I'm sure the people who do believe in it, is from children who are prepubescent.
	And they suck up this energy.
	And it could be possible that people actually believe this.
	And think they get some kind of power from it.
	And that's why they're involved in this.
	You can go either way with it.
	But that it's happening is undeniable.
	Undeniable.
	But people go figure out why this is happening.
	That to me is much more interesting.
	You figure out why maybe you can stop it.
	Just yelling about people's shitty art is meaningless.
	The art.
	Yeah.
	It's pretty sketchy.
	And you made an excellent point.
	Forget about that point.
	I didn't want to talk about it.
	What was it?
	No, you said, geez, if people looked at Miriam's art, they could probably come up with some crazy things, too.
	Oh, yeah.
	Like, yeah.
	No kidding.
	Now...
	And I want people to know that...
	I'm not going to waste your time by saying, oh yeah, that was a good one.
	John, look at that picture.
	That's some crazy art.
	Looks like Jeffrey Dahmer, one of his victims.
	Who gives a shit?
	There is something definitely going on.
	And that's what all these great citizen journalists should be focusing on is why is this happening?
	Well, the other thing is, is there is the numbers.
	If you start looking into it, there are 200,000 a year missing kids in the world that just disappear.
	Yeah.
	And that's a, 200,000 is like every 10 years, that's 2 million.
	That number's too high.
	That's high.
	That's way too high.
	And that's a document.
	I did a little research.
	I listened to Ike's thing.
	He's got these throwing numbers out.
	I think he's a little wrong in his number, but I looked into it.
	It's about 200,000.
	And the kids just disappear.
	They disappear off the face of the earth.
	And that's like a lot.
	Yeah.
	And I want to give one more data point, because I think you even sent a link to this tweet, Andrew Breitbart's tweet from, what was it, 2011 or 2012, before he died, talking about Podesta covering up the horrible crimes that are being done to children.
	Which, again, is one of those, oh, look at this!
	This is no coincidence!
	He was relating that to Project Veritas and the sale of baby parts from Planned Parenthood.
	That's what that tweet was in relation to.
	And that Podesta, who, of course, worked for...
	Who did he work for then?
	He must have...
	He was in and out.
	But Podesta was, you know, arguably you could say he was covering up for the administration or anyone who was involved with this Planned Parenthood baby parts sale.
	It was not about Podesta's crazy art or the pizza parlor.
	And if you're going to start ganging up one way or the other, you have to also take into account, which I think the Pizzagate, pro-Pizzagate people call them that, with that crazy artist woman who has these screwball dinners where his brother...
	Sure, John, sure.
	And I'm not saying that that's not entirely true, and I'm not saying that they're not a part of it.
	It just doesn't matter.
	Why this is happening is what's interesting.
	Why is it so rampant?
	Why?
	Why?
	I mean, so what's the follow-up on this huge Norwegian pedophile ring which has lawyers, politicians, police, teachers?
	Why?
	Where's the follow-up on why it's happened?
	That's all I'm asking.
	That's what I think would be productive.
	Because you might come up with something really interesting.
	Well, nobody wants to do the research on this.
	When it comes to that particular topic, as you know, having had a radio station burnt to the ground.
	Yes, I brought this up.
	You brought this up in public and the radio station was burnt.
	First, you were fired.
	I was fired.
	Their funding was taken.
	The advertisers left.
	Gone.
	So you're not going to get any investigative reporters unless they're completely oblivious to everything that's imaginable.
	They're not going to be funded to do this investigation to find the why.
	They're not going to they're going to be probably they could be assassinated for trying to find the why.
	It's never going to happen.
	This is a pipe dream.
	So all you got is like crackpot theories like David Icke's.
	That it's just a bunch of energy-sucking alien reptilians that come from a different dimension that's backwards.
	Yeah, I like that.
	Superman comic book.
	I like that.
	Well, it's great.
	It's great fun.
	But at the same time, you know, you can see stuff in there that is all I know about.
	No, this is not right.
	So he's not, you know, nailing it by any means.
	Let me give you an example.
	I went to Bohemian Grove once.
	Yeah, well, we know.
	You're an Illuminati.
	We know that.
	Yeah, I wish.
	Where's the check?
	And one of the things I wanted to see was this thing that everyone's always bitching about, which was the...
	And by the way, anyone go to this place, on weekends, women go there.
	It's like, you get a tour.
	It's not like impossible to go in.
	And so...
	I wanted to see this owl that both Ike and the Seed Man discussed.
	Yeah, Alex Jones got in there and he filmed them.
	What is it called?
	Moloch?
	Moloch?
	Moloch.
	It was part of some play that...
	Yeah, no.
	Moloch is the child molester.
	Yeah, and it's a big, giant owl.
	It's huge.
	It's part of an old tree, I guess.
	It's like a 50-foot owl.
	Yeah.
	Well, I don't know that this owl has existed since the 30s.
	I specifically got to see the owl.
	The owl is probably about 10 feet tall.
	It's all rotten.
	The whole thing is falling apart.
	There's no owl there anymore.
	And it's overgrown with a bunch of some sort of vines and stuff.
	It's just nothing there.
	You can see where it was.
	But this owl hasn't been in play for 50 years.
	But they keep referring to it and showing it and then they cite it.
	Oh, here's an example.
	It's bullcrap.
	And I know it's bullcrap because I've seen the owl.
	It's not there.
	There is no owl.
	I have seen the owl, my children.
	I've seen the owl and it's not there.
	It's just a wreck.
	And they're not having these...
	I just find it as an eye roller.
	The complete eye roller.
	And when they bring it up, and the seed man does it, and so does Ike.
	I just...
	How long were you at...
	What other bullshit are they feeding?
	How long were you there for the whole week at Bohemian Grove?
	No, it was some event I got to go to.
	Oh, it wasn't the official official.
	No, it wasn't the big boy.
	It was an off-season.
	Well, no wonder.
	The two-week thing is different.
	Maybe there's something going on during that.
	I don't know.
	I just know about it.
	I've never been to it.
	It's like a long time.
	They don't like even bringing people in from California.
	If I lived someplace else, I could probably get invited.
	And how were the crunchy baby toes?
	Were they tasty?
	All I ever found, there was just lots of booze.
	Oh, really?
	It's a drinking club!
	It's a major, major, major drinking club.
	Who invited you?
	Can you talk about that?
	I mean, did they give you rules?
	It's just a friend of mine who works in Washington, D.C. He's a lobbyist.
	So you can't talk about stuff that you saw there, or what's the deal?
	I never signed anything and said I can't talk about stuff, but it was uneventful except for the drinking.
	I mean, there's a lot of drinking going.
	I can tell you this, There's a couple of these specialty drinks that they make at some of these clubs.
	There's one club that's got...
	It's all these different little encampments.
	There's like 50 of them.
	And they're all different.
	And everyone's like separate little clubs.
	And there's one that's got like Steve Miller.
	The Steve Miller Blues Band is in one of the clubs with a bunch of other musicians.
	It's mostly music and plays that they do.
	Did he change the lyrics, I'm gonna fly like an owl?
	Like an owl.
	But he gives a concert.
	There's a bunch of...
	There's a lot of...
	There's a lot of drinking and a lot of concerts.
	So basically, it's Burning Man for old dudes.
	That's the way I think of it.
	Yeah.
	Well, maybe...
	More drinking, I think, than drugs.
	Hmm.
	Well, that's not a great report.
	I don't have any goods, but I do know one thing.
	I saw the owl and his bullcrap, whatever he's talking about.
	And I've talked to other people that are just, oh, you went, oh, you, you know, they look like I've been corrupted or something by the devil.
	But no.
	So you're clean?
	I'm pretty sure.
	I'm trying to start the damn jingle.
	Every cue you give me, you step on it again.
	What was that cue again?
	Anything!
	When you stop talking, I'm like, I'm going to break the sequence.
	I'm going to take us to the D block.
	Okay.
	I did have one last thing to say.
	Alright, we'll try it again.
	I know how to make some of these crazy specialty drinks because I grilled these guys about how to do them.
	Well, stop.
	Including the Nembutal.
	The Nembutal?
	Yes, what they call this drink.
	Can we publish the Nembutal?
	I might discuss it some later today, but I can tell you this much.
	If you take a glass of this stuff, and in this club that makes it, you walk by this fire, and you spit it into the fire, it's like an explosion took place, because it's apparently mostly 150 rum.
	Nebu what?
	Nembutal is the name of the drink.
	I'm going to show my salute by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	And I just want to say one thing all the time.
	Already in the chat room, they're already not understanding what we said.
	They're already not understanding.
	They're calling us flippant about Pizzagate.
	Didn't you just hear what I said?
	No, they're calling you flippant.
	No, it says John and Adam, actually.
	Well, I don't even talk about Pizzagate one way or the other.
	This is your beat.
	We just had a whole conversation about it.
	The conversation consisted of me encouraging you to talk more.
	Yeah, well, these guys are a-holes.
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	Okay, we got one, two, three, four, five well-wishers.
	Nice.
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	Wait, he had a note.
	That he sent.
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	There was something about it.
	He sent you an email, he says.
	Yeah, let me see.
	Barum...
	Uh...
	He...
	I wish I could...
	Barum?
	Is that his name?
	B-A-R-R-O-M. Yeah, I can't find him now.
	He probably used...
	That's probably his alias.
	Yeah.
	Well, now I can't find his email.
	Alright, sorry.
	Ah, yes.
	It was a problem.
	You should have sent it as a Barum.
	Yes, exactly.
	Because the spreadsheet goes through a third point.
	Boob.
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	Also found 8008.
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	This is funny.
	Boobs got more numbers than the 8888 celebration lucky number.
	Well, boobs are important, John.
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	That's our boobs for the day.
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	He's one of the $1 a month guys subscribing to the show?
	Well, he's got to have been listening since show 10.
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	Of course, PayPal offers no easy way to do this.
	I've tried canceling the one-month subscription so I could resubscribe at $4 a month, but PayPal keeps giving me an error.
	Wasn't sure if you were familiar with this problem.
	See, I think what happens, and this is definitely a PayPal issue, I mean, for sure I don't understand why they don't have a simple upgrade path for people who want to do that, but when you cancel your subscription, you're kind of saying, F these guys I'm canceling, they're no good, almost like canceling a credit card transaction for some reason.
	I don't think so.
	Well, this is what he's saying.
	Well, I know a lot of people who have upgraded, and they haven't gone through a rigmarole.
	Now, I will say this.
	That $1 subscription, which I think was only offered once...
	Yeah, it cost us $2, didn't it?
	Yeah, it was like the money loser.
	First of all, make sure you actually have that subscription working, because it'll get canceled at the drop of a hat by a credit card.
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	And it'd be better if it moved over to the new via a link to the new PayPal checking account, which is the No Agenda account, which has been there for a long time.
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	You get a lot of notes, I don't open them all.
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	You know, I'm thinking a couple of things.
	One is that we're the only show that probably discusses the pedophilia situation in any depth.
	So it's very, very discouraging that people would be critical of our coverage, which is the only coverage you're going to find.
	The rest of it is just a bunch of suppositions and theories.
	Oh, look at these emails and read the code and then dreaming up your own code for what they're really saying, which is not provable and may or may not be true.
	And Podesta's got creepy art.
	Yes.
	But, you know, a lot of people collect creepy art.
	Yeah.
	A lot of people are creepy.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, a lot of people are just plain creepy.
	And a lot of them would have creepy art.
	You go visit them, you feel comfortable in their environment, you can go have dinner there.
	And where's all the activists with the rubber dinghies to float up on Jeffrey Epstein's party palace there with his Lolita Express and go bust in there and see what's going on.
	Come on, people.
	Do some real work.
	Yeah, I would say this.
	Yeah.
	It's all supposition.
	We cover the real deal.
	Just one other thing.
	About the Standing Rock, North Dakota.
	Yeah.
	Because I had a conversation yesterday, because apparently the 15 or 20 hardcore vets are now going to stand with the protesters.
	Like, you know, like SEAL Team 6 guys.
	And I immediately said, why?
	Why?
	At this point, I am convinced.
	Remember, President Obama isn't really doing anything.
	What did he say?
	He's sending in monitors.
	Finally.
	Oh, I'm going to send in some monitors.
	I don't know.
	LG monitors?
	Samsung monitors?
	What are you going to do?
	He's sending in monitors to go assess the situation.
	As far as I'm concerned, the reason why this pipeline is being protested is because it will ruin Warren Buffett's business.
	And I think that a lot of people are being wound up to be a part of this protest, which is really just slowing down the demise of the oil running on Burlington Northern when this pipeline takes over.
	Maybe I see it wrong, but why else do we not have real involvement from the president or from the administration or from the Justice Department or whoever?
	Just monitors has been going on for, what, six weeks now?
	No, longer than that.
	Three months, maybe.
	I don't know.
	Long time.
	Yeah.
	And I'm just going to say it.
	I think this is bogus.
	I don't think the protesters realize that.
	They probably all...
	They mean well.
	I think they're definitely sincere.
	And if the thing gets rerouted where it's not going under the river, lake, or whatever, they want to...
	Yeah, how hard can it be?
	Well, they're going to have to do that because it's...
	It's going to go on forever.
	Although this...
	I don't know about you, but a winter in North Dakota as it gets cold?
	Yeah, the protesting will slow down, I guess.
	World-class miserable.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, man.
	Finally it happened.
	Finally an admission.
	An admission, yes.
	Ever since the earthquake in Haiti.
	Which I covered extensively, particularly the money flows or lack of money flows, the bogative musician politicians, the Clinton involvement.
	Man, just go back and look from around when that happened and listen to some of those shows.
	And then, of course, we had 300,000 people living in tents and they were pooping their guts out and dying because of cholera brought in by the blue helmets.
	Right, who never admitted liability.
	So finally they have.
	Excellencies.
	Oh, yeah, this is Ban Ki-moon, the Grand Poobah of the United Nations.
	Excellencies, ladies and gentlemen, the United Nations deeply regret the loss of life and suffering caused by the cholera outbreak in Haiti.
	On behalf of the United Nations, I want to say very clearly, we apologize to the Haitian people.
	We simply did not do enough with regard to the cholera outbreak and its spread in Haiti.
	We are profoundly sorry for our role.
	This has cast a shadow upon the relationship between the United Nations and the people of Haiti.
	It is a blemish on the reputation of UN peacekeeping and organization worldwide.
	For the sake of the Haitian people, but also for the sake of the United Nations itself, we have a moral responsibility to act, and we have a collective responsibility to deliver.
	Don't laugh!
	Why are you laughing?
	Shut up!
	Shut up!
	All right.
	There's Banky.
	So they're sorry.
	Yeah, what does that all mean?
	Are they going to give them some money, maybe?
	They're sorry.
	But I would like to go from the blue helmets to the white helmets for a moment.
	Ah, the white helmets.
	Yeah, there was a...
	The Swedish Institute of International Affairs had a big conference about the white helmets known as the official Siri...
	What are they called?
	They're called the...
	Syrian defense, civil defense or something like that, yeah.
	And, you know, the issue we have is exactly what came up is, who exactly are you guys?
	Did you see their mannequin video, by the way?
	No.
	The mannequin challenge.
	Oh, they did the white hats did a mannequin challenge?
	Did a mannequin challenge, yes.
	Oh, brother.
	And here's how it worked.
	So you saw someone lying underneath rubble, and there's two people trying to get him out, and they're doing the mannequin freeze.
	Because it's fake, of course.
	And the iPhone goes around, they see, and then boom, then they start to move, and they pull this guy out.
	But it's totally fake, which shows the ability of them to create anything they want.
	It was very believable.
	Until he knows, hey, how come they're not moving?
	Ah, mannequin challenge.
	Ha, ha, ha, ha.
	So these guys, it's fishy.
	And their funding is fishy.
	And this came up.
	Those guys, they're beyond fishy.
	Well, the Swedes are all over it.
	Syria's civil defense describes itself as independent, neutral, impartial, with no official affiliation to any political or military actor.
	For many people, this self-definition has...
	It led to raising some difficult questions that need to be addressed, I think.
	The first one concerns the funding of serious civil defence.
	Out of approximately $60 million in contributions since 2013, the United States, USAID, or Especially its Office of Transitional Initiatives, an office that by supporters is called democracy promotion, and by its critics called instigating regime change.
	I don't take any side there.
	But this office has contributed $23 million out of $60 million.
	Yes.
	the British Foreign Service, who have donated $29 million.
	And there are some other NATO countries, France, Germany, Netherlands, Denmark, who also contribute a little bit.
	Other European countries have chosen not to give Syria civil defence, the White Helmets, any contribution, including this country, Sweden.
	And as far as I know, the European Union has not...
	Made any effort to support the White Helmets?
	I will go with the points one by another, but starting by about the point of governmental support to the White Helmets and that there are governments who chose not to support the White Helmets.
	Actually, we did not ever submit a request and it was rejected by any government.
	We are not aware, for example, if the Swedish government refused to support the White Helmet.
	I believe our work in Syria is very obvious for every objective person what we are doing there.
	There are...
	Countries like Japan, for example, who support us also.
	I don't think it's NATO. I don't know if it's NATO or not.
	But these same countries, they also fund the United Nations and they fund a lot of humanitarian organizations.
	So does that make the UN and all the humanitarian organizations as NATO tools?
	For example, also we see people accuse the government of Saudi Arabia that it supports Al-Qaeda and at the same time the same government supports the United Nations.
	Does that make the United Nations supporting Al-Qaeda or affiliated to it?
	Well, that's a nice way of deflecting.
	Interesting.
	Yeah, it's two hours long, so this came in this morning, so this is what I pulled from it.
	A question came up, because a lot of editing, because the guy answers in...
	In Arabic, and, you know, it's translated.
	So this was actually quite an edit job.
	But they also asked about questionable videos, other things.
	I hope the mannequin challenge came up in that.
	So maybe I'll have more on Thursday.
	But I'm glad that someone is looking into this.
	So all their funding came from USAID and from the British Foreign Services.
	They're $60 million combined.
	Food for thought.
	Yes, well, we discussed this before.
	I have a clip that's kind of off.
	Actually, I got a couple offbeat clips if you want to hear something I think is at least positive, except for the fact that they kind of ridicule the report by playing sitar music in the background.
	But this is something that's trending, I believe.
	This is the Mushroom Report on NBC. Ah, I've never tried them.
	We're back now with what you might call an unconventional way that has helped some cancer patients feel better.
	Psychedelic medicine, you might say, in the form of magic mushrooms.
	And doctors say for some, they're working, well, magic.
	Let's get more from NBC's Kristen Dahlgren.
	When you think magic mushrooms...
	Chances are something like this comes to mind.
	But you may soon think of this, a medication.
	Two small but encouraging studies out today show the hallucinogenic ingredient in some mushrooms, called psilocybin, reduced anxiety and depression in 80% of cancer patients for more than six months after receiving just one dose.
	So you've been through a lot, though, in your life.
	Gail Cowan was in her fourth bout with breast cancer.
	I'm very stressed.
	After extensive psychological testing, she was given a pill and watched closely by doctors as she listened to music and went on a vivid mind trip.
	Nice!
	It's beautiful.
	It's...
	You know, it's something you want to embrace.
	Cowan took the drug two years ago and still...
	Like every night when I get in bed, I find that I have this smile on my face.
	It's that long-term effect that has doctors hoping for more studies conducted under tight DEA regulation and medical supervision.
	People should not look at this research and data and extrapolate from that.
	They can go get mushrooms illicitly, try it and think it's going to help them.
	But researchers are now encouraged by the potential of psychedelics to treat things like alcoholism, smoking, and depression.
	Just this week, the FDA approved a large-scale trial using the illegal party drug ecstasy for PTSD. Once criminal compounds, getting a second look.
	And giving some, like Gail Cowan, a second chance.
	I think it's wonderful.
	Kristen Dahlgren, NBC News, New York.
	Hmm.
	First they came for our marijuana, then they came for our mushrooms.
	Yeah, and in fact, I think the only reason this report happened was, and I want to play one more NBC clip after this, is because when they did the report, all you saw was, you did see mushrooms at the beginning of the report, the rest of it was this little blue pill.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so some drug companies extracting the psilocybin from these mushrooms and then pilling it.
	Right.
	Well, I heard about the PTSD research with MDMA. Right.
	Yeah, that was a prelude to this, and so they're doing this now.
	But there's also some LSD research being done with PTSD. Yeah.
	It's because the drug companies are jumping in as fast as they can because they know the legalization movement.
	Once the pot stuff gets legalized everywhere, they're going to be screwed.
	Yeah, it's taking away from a lot of traditional pharmaceuticals.
	In fact, our local coach here, Stephen Kerr, who was half out of the season last year because of a bad operation on his back that went bad.
	He's the coach of the Warriors.
	He talked about using pot and medicinal marijuana because of his pain he had in his back.
	But, you know, of course, he didn't.
	He says he looked into it.
	He did all these things, and it's much safer than using it as any...
	He indicted the drug companies for all the crap that they put out there.
	But he never just mentioned CBD, which he should have done, and kind of broke it down a little bit.
	Because people still don't understand there's two components in the medical marijuana.
	And the CBD is the stuff that is...
	Yeah, the cannabinoids, yeah.
	Yeah, they do all the good work.
	The other stuff just gets you stoned.
	So, I've never done mushrooms.
	Is that true, that you do mushrooms once and then every night when you go to bed you have a smile on your face?
	Is this like an enduring trip that just never stops?
	I never heard that.
	Have you ever done mushrooms?
	I might have asked you that.
	I might have.
	If I had done that, I can tell you for a fact that I can't say that I've done mushrooms.
	But if I had, I can assure you, you don't have a smile on your face every night.
	I guess if you're an old woman who's dying of cancer and having all these issues, probably.
	But if you were in college and went to a major university where everyone's drugged up and you experimented a lot, most of these generalities are bullcrap.
	And most of the college kids' drugs are bullcrap, too.
	Well, nowadays.
	No quality.
	It was a little better back in the day.
	This is no quality.
	Less than 10 minutes to go.
	There it is.
	Your 10-minute warning.
	That's right.
	10-minute warning, John.
	10-minute warning.
	Okay, well, then I want to get this native ad.
	It says, we just heard a native ad, which I believe was a native ad.
	And people criticize us for promoting the joke.
	Oh, the stupid pens, man.
	Damn.
	Yeah, I mean, this is like, I gotta, I gotta, this means the wine, my wine, my wine recommendation.
	Yeah, your wine tip.
	You can't do it.
	I can't because they'll just accuse me of, the wine will be gone, by the way.
	And by the way, when you're sending out, and you send it out native as a joke, that doesn't translate.
	Your jokes are not funny.
	I know it discourages me from wanting to give any tips, too.
	Yeah, so there goes the wine tip, which is a killer, by the way.
	I guess we're going to have to skip the leftover discussion, the leftover tip.
	Oh, right.
	We have the leftovers.
	Well, why don't we do that?
	Because I have a phobia of leftovers, so I wouldn't mind hearing it.
	I don't want to do it.
	All right, good.
	I understand.
	I want to do this native ad and get it off my list.
	Okay.
	What you got?
	Now, tell me this isn't a native ad with a kicker.
	This is, again, from NBC. You know, we used to dog ABC about this, but apparently NBC doesn't do it.
	I believe this to be...
	There's actually two clips now that I think about it.
	But this one here, I believe, is a native ad.
	This is the Big Mac.
	The guy who invented the Big Mac died.
	Oh, no.
	This is breaking news.
	Say that again!
	You might not know the name, but for sure you know the burger.
	The man behind the Big Mac has died.
	Michael James' Jim Delligotti has died.
	He created the iconic menu item nearly 50 years ago at one of his McDonald's franchises near Pittsburgh when he decided that customers wanted a bigger sandwich.
	It went national in 1968, and his son says he ate one every day.
	So who knows?
	It might be the secret to a long life.
	Jim Delligotti was 98 years old.
	Well, I think I can top that native ad.
	By the way, I don't think eating a Big Mac every day is the key to long life, and I doubt he did it.
	I would like to play my native ad.
	Okay.
	And you tell me what, it's not about the toy, although the toy is very disturbing by itself.
	It's the hot toy this holiday season.
	Meet your new Hatchimal!
	And it's nearly impossible to find in the Chicago area.
	Target downtown and then here.
	Have you had any luck?
	No, of course not.
	At the Target in Bucktown...
	So here's where they would be and we are currently out of stock.
	Manager Amy Henson says the demand is hard to believe.
	So we typically get around 40 to 50 guest calls a day, inquiring if we have any in stock.
	At the Toys R Us and Roscoe Village, manager George Arroyo is expecting a shipment on Sunday.
	We don't have a number as to how many we're going to receive.
	But he does know there will be customers waiting.
	When we open up our doors on Sunday at 8 a.m., these items will sell very quickly.
	Hatchimals typically cost between $60 and $70.
	On eBay, they are going for multiples of that.
	A message posted on the Hatchimals website reads, We have increased production and a whole new batch of Hatchimals will be ready to hatch in early 2017.
	This is a special season and we don't want anyone to be disappointed.
	Little help for those desperate to find one in time for the holidays.
	Now, we do have a tip for you.
	Target is staffed around the clock, meaning you can call overnight to see if a new shipment has arrived.
	But beware, the shipments are selling out almost immediately, so you will have to arrive a few hours before the store opens if you're hoping to get one.
	Whatever you do, get to Target early.
	Call them overnight.
	Get to Target.
	Yeah, you're right.
	This is not about the toys.
	No, exactly.
	They did slip Toys R Us in there, but it's about Target.
	Too much information about Target.
	By the way, these hatchables, man, we need to turn these into hackables.
	Can you imagine a thing breaks through this egg?
	I don't know if you've seen any of this.
	And it starts talking to you.
	But listen, it's so sick.
	This is so sick.
	If you give this toy to your child, it's an egg.
	It's an oversized egg.
	And you have to rub the egg, and then the egg lights up on the inside where you're supposed to rub it.
	And you rub that area.
	You have to hold the egg.
	You have to nurture the egg.
	And then the egg starts to hatch.
	It's kind of like the Furby thing.
	And then there's a Furby-like thing in there which talks to you, learns, plays games, etc.
	Now, the first time these came around, it was bad.
	But this is, I mean, this is really, you're teaching, give the kid a real egg.
	You know, show, put it under the light, and they'll keep it warm and watch an actual chicken hatch from it.
	No.
	We're going to do hatchables.
	I remember, not for Christmas, it wasn't my present, but we've done that with the egg.
	That's really beautiful.
	You see life happen, but no.
	No, it has to be a stupid hatchable.
	We need to reprogram their ROMs.
	There's another one here.
	This is the NBC surprise announcement clip.
	This is not just NBC, but it's everybody.
	The Fortune 500 consists of 500 companies.
	The Fortune 1000 is 1,000.
	How often does anybody give a crap about a CEO of any of those 500 companies quitting?
	Zero.
	Yeah, zero.
	Nobody cares.
	Nobody cares, no.
	This is either some good PR that's working through some agency or a native ad, which I suspect is partially a native ad, about Howard Schultz Quitting Starbucks as if this is important news.
	A surprise announcement tonight from one of the most high-profile business leaders in America.
	Starbucks chairman and CEO Howard Schultz says he'll step down as the company's chief executive in April.
	He'll become executive chairman, and the Starbucks president will take over as CEO. Schultz has been with the company since 1982.
	Yeah.
	I don't think it was a native ad.
	Well, it may or may not have been a native ad, but it's not news.
	It's a corporate thing, you know.
	And by the way, this was just on the last...
	He quit like a week ago and missed the whole story.
	Oh, then it's just a filler.
	They just needed one story to fill up the last 45 seconds before the break.
	You know how it works.
	Yeah, I know how it works, but there's lots of fillers out there that don't involve Starbucks.
	But you might as well stroke your buddies.
	Get a free coffee.
	Yeah.
	I just have one report from the Eurolands.
	This is expected around Christmas.
	It's expected in Germany.
	Europol has warned that Europe can expect more terrorist attacks in the near future, carried out by the self-styled Islamic State group or in its name.
	Europe's police agency believes attacks such as those in Paris and Brussels show that ISIL has already developed new tactics to strike at the West.
	In a new report, Europol says the threat comes from both networked groups and lone actors, arguing also that the battle against the terrorists is far from lost.
	It is a reality that more attacks are likely, but the response is also stronger.
	So I think...
	I think we'll get to the stage where we will probably suppress the threat of ISIS to a smaller level.
	We're not there yet.
	The report warns that the extremist tactics in the Middle East, such as the use of car bombs, could also be deployed in Europe.
	One of the main findings is that sleeper cells could already be on European soil waiting for an order to strike and that individuals may be incited to act.
	It would be a big mistake to just believe that the threat is coming from outside.
	We still have a lot of people prone to radicalization inside Europe.
	Europol says community leaders have a role to play in preventing ISIL from recruiting.
	Increased cooperation between police across Europe is seen as the key to combating the threat and has already led to plots being foiled.
	Okay.
	Enjoy Christmas.
	Good Christmas in Copenhagen.
	Here's a clip nobody's covering on the mainstream media about the riots in Copenhagen of all places.
	Welcome back.
	Clashes over immigration have broken out between police and opposing protest groups in the Danish capital.
	Street demonstrations by the group Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamisation of the West, or Pegida, were made by a counter-rallying.
	Pro-immigration protesters barricaded themselves against police, set containers ablaze, and chanted anti-racism slogans.
	Ruffles erupted as officers broke up the demonstration.
	Did he say anti-racism slogans?
	Yes, there's a second organization, there's a huge organization that was protesting too, calling the Europeans racists for not welcoming these refugees.
	Ah, well, my report from the Netherlands.
	Big deal going on.
	There's an organization called Meldpunt Internet Discriminatie, known as MIND. That is the place to report discrimination on the internet.
	I believe they receive government funding.
	And they have now stated, this is great, they have stated that if a Muslim speaks out against homosexuality in context of their religion, that is not discrimination.
	Huh.
	That's a good one.
	So, if it's in the context of, this is not my religion doesn't believe in this, therefore homosexuals are horrible, it's no good, as long as it's within the context of the religion...
	They say religion, not culture.
	They say religion.
	Then that is okay.
	I find that problematic.
	It's very problematic, and all you have to do to make anything religious, kind of, in regards to it, based on, you know, you just finish the sentence with, you know, all praise to Allah.
	Praise be upon him.
	Yes, yes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Good work, Netherlands.
	Another winner.
	Good work, everybody.
	All right.
	You got anything else or should we call this a day?
	I can move stuff to Thursday.
	Nothing's pressing.
	Okay.
	Yeah, we'll call it a day.
	We'll call it a day.
	It is almost a day.
	It is a Sunday.
	We do the show twice a week, in case you hadn't heard.
	And we're very proud to bring you your media deconstruction as we guard your reality and your mental hygiene through the best podcasts in the universe.
	College games.
	I guess there's stuff that's out there.
	No, the college games are over as of yesterday.
	Now they have the big major playoff, but that doesn't come for another month.
	So I don't have to watch that.
	Thank goodness.
	That's good.
	But we will be back on Thursday.
	No doubt something will be worthy of our attention.
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	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where Plato say, woman who dated midget gunslinger learns to love small arms.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We will be back on Thursday, right here on No Agenda.
	mofos.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no. no.
	Have you tasted long clip?
	Do you want to take some altitude sickness?
	Generally speaking, I don't really.
	Chew and chew until they kind of get moist.
	And so I'm the one.
	Have you tasted long clip?
	Chew and chew until they get cocaine leaves.
	I don't think, maybe when I was a kid, I don't.
	They kind of get moist and you have a good question.
	Oh, you know, not young as the group does.
	They taste what you think.
	Lawn clippings are not young out of these things.
	I took out two sicknesses.
	Lawn clippings with some juice out of these things.
	What is the cocaine?
	That's the proper way of putting it.
	It's what you think he thinks.
	The kicker, the real thing you want is the cocaine.
	Constant mouthful is your altitude.
	The guy says you got one.
	It's the thing you want.
	That was some guy with a bag of these things.
	The guy's cocaine, a leaf, and known as the dealer.
	Leaves, it tastes like lawn clippings.
	One is the cocaine.
	Leaves, it leaves.
	It tastes like lawn clippings.
	The cocaine.
	Known as the dealer.
	You can also have cocaine tea.
	It tastes as long as you can.
	Cain leaves.
	Cocaine tea.
	You have Jenna up there.
	There's always some guy.
	Generally speaking, I don't have tea.
	Some, some, some, some.
	And generally speaking, I don't really have too much trouble.
	That helps.
	Well, I don't, well, I don't know.
	I mean, I don't have a tea.
	Chasting.
	My name's Michael.
	He has tea.
	It's a very tasty bag of these things.
	But there's leaves.
	You want to grab it.
	What do you do with your dad?
	But there's leaves.
	You want to grab it.
	Amen.
	Fist bump.
	Caliphate In Iraq I think I'm gonna Crap my pants Amen.
	Fist bump.
	Love you, mean it.
	Fact check, false.
	As a general rule, I am just fine with a few hecklers.
	But not when I'm up in the house.
	Hey, hey, hey.
	Can we have this person to move, please?
	Can we escort this person out?
	Come on.
	Adios, mofo.
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