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	Oh man, that's disgusting.
	Adam Couric, John C. Devorak.
	And Sunday November 20th, 2016, this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 879.
	This is No Agenda.
	Tracking the Trump transition and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet, camped out in the Sunshine State, classified under FEMA Region 4 in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where Plato say, man who fires gun at cheese targets shoots the breeze.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning.
	Oh, I like it.
	It works.
	The breeze.
	Very nice.
	Yeah.
	Funny.
	Funny.
	Hey, you'll be happy to know, as we are on location for this episode of The Best Podcast in the Universe, that that very expensive iPhone 7 Plus that I bought...
	Oh, I want to hear.
	...is delivering for us.
	Oh, okay.
	I thought you were going to have something bad to say.
	No, no, no.
	It's fantastic.
	So we're in an Airbnb, of course.
	And they have internet, and it's 10 megabits up, 10 megabits...
	No.
	Yeah, 10 megabits up, 10 down, but for some reason it's sluggish.
	I don't know.
	I do the speed test, I get the...
	I see the megabits, but even prepping is like, this is going to take too long.
	10 megabits!
	How can that be that that's now slow these days?
	It's bullcrap, that's why.
	Yeah, I guess you're right.
	There are some of these systems that manage to fool...
	And I think everybody, I don't know what kind of code they've got going back and forth, but it triggers something.
	This kind of thing, tricking tests, has been a long-established kind of tradition in America, especially in the technology companies.
	Especially in the automobile industry.
	The automobile industry.
	When I was at PC, well, I was still at PC Magazine, but when they had their big labs and they had this one guy who kept finding these graphic cards manufacturers, It has some code in there that would make the test results different than what reality was.
	And I believe that there's a...
	This happens on everything, and I don't know how they're doing it with these tests, but they're doing it.
	So, in other words, it's bullcrap at 10 and 10.
	Okay.
	Well, I'll tell you that, of course, I have the Verizon MiFi that I always bring with me.
	We have a monthly 20-gig allotment for roadshows.
	That's slow.
	I mean, you know...
	It's just not really zippy.
	So you went to Plan B. What's the iPhone running on if it's not Verizon?
	T-Mobile.
	And the reason I got the iPhone 7 Plus is because it has the new radios for the extended reach or whatever they call it, LTE. Because now you can get T-Mobile's other transmitters.
	And it is kicking ass.
	I'll knock on wood, of course, but it's kicking ass.
	I'm very happy.
	Always got to knock on wood.
	It hangs up.
	And before we get started...
	Your allotment is over.
	Yeah, we're sorry.
	Before we start, I do want to issue a...
	Hold on, sir.
	Tigger warning, trigger warning.
	There will be a mic drop at the end of the podcast.
	So for those of you with very sensitive ears who for some reason think that it's louder, which it's not...
	The frequency is hard for you to hear.
	You can turn it off so you won't be offended after you hear the donation jingle.
	And there's the mic drop right there.
	Yeah, but I'm not doing it now because that would be unfair.
	That's where it would be.
	That's where it would be.
	Exactly.
	That's where it would be.
	Oh, I thought you had the woman screaming the Yoko Ono singing, then you did the mic drop a couple of shows ago.
	Well, no, just once.
	I did that once.
	But it's the mic drop.
	People are complaining loudly about the mic drop.
	You know, it's kind of like, oh, donation segments.
	Well, listen, we invented this whole podcasting thing with total interactivity in mind.
	Shh, don't tell anybody.
	But we have controls built in.
	It's usually labeled FF. Give it a shot.
	If you want to miss out on some of the best content.
	And there's a pause button if you're going to be triggered by this horrible mic drop sound.
	I don't know.
	When did this start?
	The complaining started getting loud in the past week.
	About the mic drop?
	Yeah.
	I think it started on the face bag.
	Yeah, it's of course in the face bag.
	Oh, face bag!
	Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
	Everybody!
	So I'm looking at the face bag, John.
	I know you don't have an account.
	And there's a photo posted by Jesse.
	You know Jesse, don't you?
	Yeah.
	Which is Buzzkill Jr.'s wife.
	Right.
	And she posts a picture of three pairs of socks.
	Yeah, that was her announcement.
	One little tiny pair.
	Yeah.
	Well, we have the patter of tiny feet in the Dvorak household again.
	No, they know they got a poodle.
	In the morning.
	Okay, you were ready for that, I guess.
	No, I was not.
	You could.
	That wasn't in the script.
	Nice one.
	Do we know what it is yet?
	This is rich.
	They want to be surprised.
	Oh, what morons.
	Classic millennial.
	We want to be surprised.
	Oh, man.
	So they're going to have nothing.
	They'll have nothing for this kid.
	Everybody's hounding him, so, you know, but no.
	No, the only thing they'll have for the kid, because I realize that this is, well, it's not really the origin of this particular object, but that's what it's been used for in recent history, even though it was invented in the 1870s.
	Safety pin.
	You know, safety pin, of course, although initially meant for, you know, pinning clothes, was pretty much used in most of the 20th century for diapers.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	How fitting that that is now the symbol of the millennials.
	A nappy pin, I tell you.
	A nappy pin, as we call it in the UK. Well, congratulations.
	So we don't know what it's going to be, and I guess you're just going to not care until it's there.
	Apparently, I guess that's what's going to happen.
	Yeah, I know I would have mentioned it on the show, but I figured that they're the ones that's not my business to pre-announce.
	Right, but since it was announced on the bag.
	They may have a friend that listens to this show.
	You never know.
	What?
	I don't want to pre-announce it before they do, because they may have a friend.
	Oh, no.
	That's highly unlikely.
	Highly unlikely.
	By accident.
	Really.
	I tripped and fell and just could catch my eye on the bathroom towel hook, and then I heard the show.
	No, I don't think so.
	Okay.
	Well, I sent a newsletter out that was about fake news.
	Yes, fake news is what it's all about.
	And so my thesis today is about fake news.
	Oh, you know what?
	I'm happy you say that because I got a couple of fake news thesi as well.
	And my thing is that most of the fake news that I picked up this week...
	Can we do a background around this before you jump right into it?
	I think...
	Well, actually, I have a clip that's a background, I believe.
	Beautiful.
	Which is the fake news clip, which is in here.
	Mm-hmm.
	I can find it for you.
	Maybe Fake News 1?
	Is that a thought?
	That would be one of them.
	Yeah, they go with that.
	Well, there's...
	Okay.
	Fake News 1, everybody.
	In the week or so since the election, there has been mounting criticism of whether web giants like Facebook and Google used enough discretion and editorial responsibility in screening out fake news sites.
	A new analysis by BuzzFeed found that false election stories from hoax sites and hyper-partisan blogs Generated more engagement than content from real news sites during the last three months of the election.
	Users shared false stories like this one about Pope Francis endorsing Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton selling weapons to ISIS hundreds of thousands of times, even more than real stories.
	President Obama weighed in today during his trip to Germany.
	If we are not serious about facts, And what's true and what's not.
	And particularly in an age of social media where so many people are getting their information in sound bites and snippets off their phones.
	If we can't discriminate between serious arguments and propaganda, then we have problems.
	I actually had this clip too, of course, but this is what I think, John, you and I have been waiting for.
	We knew this was coming, and it's probably fair to say that the genesis of this fake news came from the Hillary Clinton campaign or Mm-hmm.
	Yeah.
	It's everybody's fault.
	Yeah.
	Did you read Zuckerberg's actual note about this?
	I didn't read Zuckerberg's full note.
	I do have a little clip of Zuckerberg.
	Okay.
	Why don't we do that, and then if I need to read any of the notes, we can do that.
	Well, first, let's finish this fake news thing, this part two.
	This short, just a little more information.
	Okay, part two.
	Craig Silverman worked on the analysis done by BuzzFeed, and he joins me now.
	Craig, how do we know Facebook's impact on the electorate?
	How did you research this?
	Well, what we did was we looked for the biggest 20 hits in the last three months before the election from sites that published fake news or sites that had published something false that also went viral.
	And then we looked at the total number of Facebook engagements for those, and that's a number that encompasses the comments, the reactions, and the shares.
	And we decided to compare those to the top 20 real election news hits From 19 major news organizations.
	And what we ended up seeing, which was quite surprising, was in those last three months of the election, compared to the six months before that, the engagement on the top 20 fake news stories was actually higher than what you saw for the real news.
	And you found that some of these sites were really news sites, but still they had as much power, if not more, than, say, the New York Times or the Washington Post?
	That was one of the really surprising things to me.
	I didn't expect fake news to get more engagement than real news overall, but to see that the leading fake news site getting the most engagement had only been registered months before, and its top four fake stories got more Facebook engagement than the top four election stories from the Washington Post.
	I mean, that was really surprising.
	And you found in some of your investigations that some of these are sites that were built in Macedonia for more of a profit motive than a political one.
	Oh man, there's so much beauty in here.
	I know that you've got a whole thing prepared, so I'm going to let you roll, but I think I should read the Zuckerberg letter.
	Well, yes.
	I want to read the Zuckerberg, and also, so here's what he gave an example of a fake news story.
	My God, for 25 years, they've been growing babies in cows!
	See, this is when I love the chat room, and they have great ideas, okay?
	Alright, here it is.
	Zuckerberg's note.
	A lot of you have asked what we're doing about misinformation, so I want to give an update.
	The bottom line is, we take misinformation seriously.
	Our goal is...
	Yes, you may comment.
	Our goal is to connect people with the stories they find most meaningful, and we know people want accurate information.
	We've been working on this problem for a long time, and we take this responsibility seriously.
	We've made significant progress, but there's more work to be done.
	Historically, we've relied on our community to help us understand what is fake and what is not.
	Anyone on Facebook can report any link as false, and we use these signals from those reports along with a number of others, like people sharing links to myth-busting sites such as Snopes.
	Woohoo!
	Snopes!
	Call out for Snopes.
	To understand which stories we can confidently classify as misinformation.
	Similar to clickbait, spam, and scams, we penalize this content in newsfeed so it's much less likely to spread.
	These problems here are complex, both technically and philosophically.
	We believe in giving people a voice which means erring on the side of letting people share what they want whenever possible.
	We need to be careful not to discourage sharing of opinions or mistakenly restricting accurate content.
	Ooh, accurate content.
	So the difference between fake and real is accurate.
	We do not want to be arbiters of truth ourselves, but instead rely on our community and trusted third parties.
	While the percentage of misinformation is relatively small, we have much more work ahead on our roadmap.
	Normally, we wouldn't share specifics about our work in progress, but given the importance of these issues and the amount of interest in this topic, I want to outline some of the projects we already have underway.
	Here we go, John.
	Stronger detection.
	Ooh.
	The most important thing we can do is improve our ability to classify misinformation.
	This means better technical systems to detect what people will flag as false before they do it themselves.
	This is AI, John.
	Stand back.
	Easy reporting.
	Making it much easier for people to report stories as fake will help us catch more information faster.
	Third-party verification.
	There are many respected fact-checking organizations and while we have reached out to some, we plan to learn from many more.
	Warnings.
	We are exploring labeling stories that have been flagged as false by third parties or our community and showing warnings when people read or share them.
	Related articles quality.
	We are raising the bar for stories that appear in related articles under links in the news feed.
	Disrupting fake news economics.
	A lot of misinformation is driven by financially motivated spam.
	We're looking into disrupting the economics with ad policies like the one we announced earlier this week and better ad farm detection.
	And finally, listening.
	We will continue to work with journalists and others in the news industry to get their input in particular to better understand their fact-checking systems and learn from them.
	Some of these ideas will work well and some will not, but I want you to know that we have always taken this seriously.
	We understand how important the issue is for our community and we are committed to getting this right.
	There you go.
	He's a doofus.
	So let's play his clip here to prove that point I just made.
	Okie doke.
	While speaking to world leaders in Peru today, Zuckerberg acknowledged the role social media has played in elections.
	He also says all websites have a responsibility to ensure accuracy and fairness on the internet.
	We also need to do our part to stop the spread of hate and violence and misinformation.
	We can build artificial intelligence to fight terrorism, but we also need to make sure that we protect people's privacy.
	Zuckerberg plans on including warning labels on false stories and working with journalists to develop a better fact-checking system.
	Facebook is hardly the only company struggling to address this problem.
	Google has also taken steps just this week to try to stop fake news writers from making money off of their ad services.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah, heaven forbid.
	So let's play the little ISO there of Zuckerberg.
	I thought this was an interesting non-sequitur.
	We can build artificial intelligence to fight terrorism, but we also need to make sure that we protect people's privacy.
	I know.
	It's beautiful.
	What has one got to do with the other?
	Why use a but?
	Why doesn't he use an and instead of a but?
	I have a thought.
	Do you have a thought?
	Well, I want to hear yours first.
	What he's saying is we've built systems to combat terrorism online, which I guess would be horrible things people post.
	And the reason he said but is because they're completely intruding on your privacy in the process of doing that.
	Let's listen to that again.
	That's a very good catch.
	We can build artificial intelligence to fight terrorism.
	But we also need to make sure that we protect people's privacy.
	Yeah, which we're clearly not doing right now.
	Yeah.
	Nice.
	Good one.
	If you said and, I think I wouldn't have caught it.
	No.
	But it would have meant something else.
	Yeah, but that means something's wrong when you say but.
	The truth always wants to come out.
	But the real issue is not even who determines what is fake, but what is fake?
	Yeah.
	That's...
	I mean, jeez.
	Television by itself, its very nature is fake.
	Well, that's the second part of my little clippage here.
	Okay, can I just...
	I believe that if we're going to look at fake news and if we're going to take this seriously, the real fake news purveyors are the networks.
	Give me some examples.
	Wow.
	I think I will.
	Actually, I've got lots of examples throughout this show.
	How can you not have them?
	Let's go with NBC, Andrea Mitchell on Flynn, the general.
	You've got all my clips, don't you?
	This is great.
	Donald Trump campaigned on shaking up Washington.
	His first foreign policy hires live up to that promise.
	For National Security Advisor, a job that does not require Senate approval, retired three-star Lieutenant General Mike Flynn, a decorated combat veteran who rose to the top of military intelligence before being fired by President Obama two years ago, criticized for ruffling too many feathers.
	A lifelong Democrat drawing attention for his strident takedown of Hillary Clinton at the Republican convention.
	Lock her up.
	That's right.
	Yes, that's right.
	Lock her up.
	Stunning former colleagues by cozying up to Vladimir Putin at a lavish dinner in Moscow for Putin's propaganda arm, Flynn is outspoken against radical Islam.
	There is a disease inside of this Islamic body.
	It's like cancer.
	He'll be the last person talking to the president about national security decisions, running an office that has exploded to 400 staffers.
	The national security advisor role is the most pivotal because it plays the role of quarterback for national security policy.
	General Flynn is a good and important choice to have given his experience and background.
	Some are questioning whether Flynn can be an honest broker inside the cabinet.
	Can General Flynn make that leap to understand the diplomatic side of things?
	I think those are just some of the questions that are being asked.
	I also have a clip about...
	Well, I got a bunch of follow-up clips to show that she's...
	This is a fake news story that she just did.
	Can I play the same fake news story from CNN? Okay, I don't have the CNN. Give me the CNN. Yeah, I do.
	Let's just throw up this tweet from Michael Flynn earlier this year.
	It says, fear of Muslims is rational.
	And there's a video, and it says, please forward this to other people.
	You know, the truth fears no questions.
	What does this tell us about Donald Trump's worldview going forward?
	Well, the fear is that this doubled down on his darker impulses about the Islamic world.
	Look, Michael Flynn, General Flynn, has made fair criticisms of how this administration dealt with the rising threat that became ISIS. But then you jump the shark into this kind of Islamophobia to say that Islam is a political ideology, what he has said, and not a religion, to indict four billion Muslims around the globe.
	I mean, that's just short-sighted, ignorant thinking.
	Jason, one more troubling thing that his Twitter feed reveals.
	He tweeted a fake news story that is so over the top, it's absurd.
	Let me read it to everybody.
	You decide.
	NYPD blows whistle on new Hillary emails, money laundering, sex crimes with children, etc.
	Must read!
	Exclamation point.
	This comes from a...
	So clearly fake news site that there's a gullibility that this suggests that is troubling.
	Let's put this in context.
	On Monday, President-elect Trump selected Steve Bannon to be his...
	It's all kind of in one clip because I didn't know where you were going, but I like this because it has the fake news story followed by him with the fake news story, but then they're going to wind it up with this black guy.
	They're fake news.
	Yeah, but this is like going to top the fake news story.
	His senior advisor, and this is someone who sympathizes with white nationalist groups who are basically terrorist groups.
	Okay.
	And now, he's got a national security...
	Save the rest of that clip because I have an abandoned thing that that would fit into.
	Okay, I'll save that part of the clip.
	Let's go back to the Andrea Mitchell clip.
	Yeah.
	The one part where she's extolling this guy's problems, including him standing there saying, lock her up, lock her up.
	If you remember that clip.
	Yeah, that was Flynn.
	But it was out of context.
	This was fake news the way she did it, because it was out of context.
	He did not initiate.
	It made it sound like, lock her up!
	Like he initiated this.
	He did not initiate the lock her up thing.
	Here's the PBS, this is the Flynn Genesis clip.
	Plus?
	Yes, plus.
	We do not need a reckless president who believes she is above the law.
	Lock her up.
	That's right.
	Yes, that's right.
	Lock her up!
	Yeah, of course.
	Yeah, out of context.
	That's the best kind of fake news.
	Completely out of context.
	So I would say that Andrea Mitchell's report is insincere and it's misleading because he was just giving his regular speech and the crowd started chanting this.
	And then he said, yeah, lock her up.
	Sure, it sounds like a good idea.
	But she made it sound like he's initiating it, which is an example of fake news.
	Now the other one is this cancer thing.
	I want to play this.
	This is Michael Flynn on Bill Maher where he brings up this cancer thing about Muslims being cancer.
	There is a disease inside of this Islamic body.
	It's like cancer.
	Right.
	It's like cancer, a disease within the Islamic body.
	Now, play the BBC clip, BBC on Flynn and the Muslim cancer, and listen carefully.
	This is America's next national security adviser, General Mike Flynn, a retired intelligence officer whose views on Muslims have been accused of being Islamophobic.
	In a speech this summer, he likened the world's second largest religion to a malignant cancer.
	Islam is a political ideology.
	It is a political ideology.
	It definitely hides behind this notion of it being a religion.
	Ladies and gentlemen, the next president of the United States, Donald J. Trump.
	But it's precisely that kind of outspokenness and his experience of counter-terrorism that's made him such a trusted advisor.
	You know, John, not only did they clip off the end where it puts it into context, they're a state-sponsored news outlet.
	They're a state-sponsored news outlet, and I want to play this clip again because this guy clearly calls him out.
	He associates Muslims with the malignant.
	The word malignant was never used in any of these quotes.
	But he says malignant cancer.
	Then he plays a clip as if the clip backs him up.
	Yep.
	And there's nothing in the clip.
	This is America's next national security advisor, General Mike Flynn, a retired intelligence officer whose views on Muslims have been accused of being Islamophobic.
	In a speech this summer, he likened the world's second largest religion to a malignant cancer.
	Islam is a political ideology.
	It is a political ideology.
	It definitely hides behind this notion of it being a religion.
	Ladies and gentlemen, the next president of the United States, Donald J. Trump.
	But it's precisely that kind of outspokenness and his experience of counterterrorism that's made him such a trusted advice.
	This is the worst of the group.
	Unbelievable.
	Shameful.
	Shameful from the state-sponsored BBC. That's the BBC. Yes.
	Gotta love it.
	That clip to me was enough that it just made me sick.
	That clip is enough to not only make me sick, but to hand out the clip of the day.
	The clip of the day.
	Hell yeah.
	Oh yeah.
	Deserved.
	Deserved.
	Nailed it.
	I'll have other fake news along the way.
	Yeah, I'm sure you will.
	I have here...
	Well, I'm going to play that guy now.
	We don't have to get into Bannon just this moment, but just what fake news has done to this commentator on CNN is astounding.
	He's got a national security adviser who has said that Muslims should be feared, who's made very, very aggressive statements about countries that we have to interact with across the globe, and who's also appeared on Russian television, state-sponsored Russian television.
	This is dangerous.
	And tweeting out fake news suggests to me that not only is he going to continue to spread the kind of violent rhetoric that he did throughout the campaign, he'll continue to do it once he's in office, once he's in a position of power.
	And that is dangerous for everyone in this country.
	Oh my gosh, he's appeared on Russian TV! Oh no!
	We're going to die for sure.
	Ed Schultz is on Russian TV. Larry King is on Russian TV. I mean, I have more just outrageous fake news stories, which is, if you think about it, we are the fake news filter for the mainstream media.
	That's what we've been doing for, you know, going on nine years now.
	At least we try, and we're not always successful, and we're not always right, but damn, we're doing better.
	We're going on 10 years.
	We just had our 9th anniversary.
	I'm sorry.
	I lost track, darling.
	Sorry.
	Did you get my card?
	And the flowers.
	No, I did.
	Alright, here is the CNN panel on one of my favorite lies about Mike Pence.
	And I have researched this guy.
	This is Angela Rye.
	She is the former Black Caucus staffer who is now a CNN commentator.
	Before you play it, let me just push back a little bit.
	I think...
	This is in relation to the Hamilton fracas, which was interesting because, of course, the people who were in the Hamilton...
	I mean, Tina and I wanted to see Hamilton.
	I couldn't get tickets for Hamilton.
	I can't afford the tickets for Hamilton.
	But okay, the former assistant, the gopher for the Black Caucus...
	Yeah, she had no problem.
	This is so important because of who Alexander Hamilton was and this cast, which I happened to get to see this musical last year.
	We spent way too much money on the tickets.
	You can call me an elite.
	I'm just being honest.
	It was a sacrificial offering to go to this play.
	And I assert that you still are an elite.
	Even if it was just a sacrificial offering, I don't think you had to kill your children.
	But still, most people can't sacrifice $800 minimum.
	And what I want to say is this.
	This cast is so far from the elites.
	This cast is the representative of the American dream.
	They worked hard.
	They pulled themselves up by bootstraps before they had the boots on.
	They worked really hard.
	Unlike anyone else in show business.
	Holy crap, why is she kidding?
	Unlike anyone else, of any color, creed background.
	Everybody that works on Broadway works their asses off.
	Are you kidding me?
	Yes, we're kidding you.
	It's fake news.
	There wasn't space for them.
	And Tara, I know you said that race doesn't matter in this space.
	Oh, but it does.
	No, I'm talking about the way that fear folks get along with each other and work with each other.
	I hear you.
	But so often, right?
	Wait for it.
	That's not the story that we can tell.
	But this cast is diverse.
	They had a Latino man playing Alexander Hamilton.
	They eliminated race barriers through this play.
	And the one thing that I would say that's so important to frame this is the lead character playing Hamilton now, no longer Lin-Manuel.
	Yeah.
	Manuel, sorry.
	Right.
	He...
	Is...
	Openly gay.
	Openly gay, HIV-positive man.
	And let's talk about...
	Javier Munoz.
	And he was part of Out Magazine's 100.
	But Don...
	You notice Don Lemon is, again, only thinking about himself.
	Oh, he's part of Out Magazine's 100.
	Yeah, because he's in there, too.
	He's trying to get his name.
	I was in that article, too, along with the openly gay, HIV... I'll let you know, man.
	Fine.
	This is against a vice-president-elect who wanted to use HIV-AIDS money for conversion therapy.
	Can you imagine what that's like for that?
	I'm so tired of this lie.
	I'm really tired of this one.
	That is a blatant lie.
	Produced documentation on the show over and over again.
	This is your little thing.
	And it's outrageous that this is fake news.
	You're right.
	And where is everyone saying, oh, that's...
	Hold on a second.
	Nuance that a little.
	No.
	It's money for conversion therapy.
	Can you imagine what that's like for that man in that space?
	I think we can't just always say, you know, it's about the elites or whatever.
	We have to, like, look at things for their full experience, right?
	And all Don Lemon says is, right.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Please.
	This is so just...
	I really dislike that one.
	Now that you brought this clip into play, now the whole thing that took place on Hamilton, because you know that's what they think.
	They think there was actually something that said AIDS money should be turned to conversion therapy.
	All the people in that play believe that.
	That's why they did the show stop.
	Well, it wasn't a show.
	No, it was at the end of the show.
	Yes, of course they do.
	Of course they do.
	And this is the sad thing, is I can't blame them for believing that.
	You've been subject to, what is it called?
	Oh yeah, fake news.
	Lies.
	Absolute fabrication and lies.
	And it's just getting rampant.
	I mean, we can have a field day with this.
	It's going to be real easy.
	Well, I'm telling you, I think over the next year, people thought we were doing a splendid job over the last two or three months of the election.
	The way I'm seeing it when I'm listening to the current clips coming out and some of the things these guys are doing, I think it's getting worse.
	PBS, for example, has completely turned nuts.
	And it's as if...
	And PBS is...
	Now they're showing their corruption, too.
	PBS, the news hour I'm talking about, has just...
	Obviously, somebody on their board or one of the donors or some underwriter has gotten on their case for being a little, I guess, wimpy during the election and trying to be objective.
	And PBS has gone out of its way to just go in the other direction.
	Listen to this.
	This is a clip.
	I've got to get this right clip.
	PBS Long Expo on Flint.
	Well, I've got three clips.
	I don't want to start hogging clips here.
	You clip hogger!
	My clip hogger.
	Let's play.
	There's the one here.
	Let's start with the obituary.
	The obit for it.
	This guy, okay.
	I've never seen PBS do this.
	They do an obit.
	For a dead CEO who hasn't been the CEO of the company for maybe 20 years.
	He's just a random CEO. I've never seen anything like this.
	It's for Archer Daniels Midland guy.
	The number one sponsor.
	Who was actually busted for illegal actions.
	And you know, there's a big sponsor of the news.
	Play this obit for ADM guy.
	And the man who made Archer Daniels Midland into a food industry giant has died.
	Dwayne Andreas passed away Wednesday.
	He took over ADM in 1970 and built a dominant position in everything from ethanol to corn syrup.
	He stepped down in 1997 after a price-fixing scandal.
	ADM was also a major underwriter of the NewsHour for years.
	Dwayne Andreas was 98 years old.
	Oh, good.
	At least they said that.
	Yeah, they did have a disclaimer in there, but I have never seen anything like that, where they do an obit for one of the underwriters, who's not even currently, wasn't an underwriter for the last 20 years.
	Obviously, somebody at Archer Midland came in and said, well, you're not going to do this.
	Well, John, but I'll be fair.
	If one of our producers passed away, and this has, in fact, happened, we've been asked to stop and say something.
	We have.
	Yeah.
	But we do it for all of them.
	We don't do it for some selective guy.
	Well, this is true.
	We've only had one death in the family so far.
	We don't know how we'll respond to the next one.
	Well, maybe we'll have to stop.
	No, I thought that was bad form.
	But here's the one.
	Here's douche on Breitbart.
	Here's a guy who comes on.
	He's just one of the two.
	They always have two guys, right?
	There was these two commentators.
	So now they have these two guys.
	And both of these guys are against the administration, the new administration.
	And this one guy goes off on Breitbart being a misogynist, white supremacist, and she has to back him off, which she does in such a wimpy way.
	You've got to listen to this.
	Ideally, if we could set aside the politics for a moment, but some of these things are not political.
	When you go and take somebody who's run a publication that's a white supremacist, misogynist publication, and appoint him right next door to the president in the White House, that sends a message, particularly in Europe right now where there's a rising tide of the right.
	One of those people who he's appointed, Steve Bannon, has already sent a message to the Le Pen team who's going to compend for the presidency of France next year, extreme right-wingers.
	And so he's saying, look, we'll help you.
	We're part of this rising tide of the right.
	So actions are being taken, choices are being made, and the consequences are serious.
	And we should say that the Breitbart news organization argues against the characterization that it's white supremacist.
	But setting that aside, Michael Pillsbury, what about this argument that already, by his statements...
	You know, I picked up an article here that Breitbart News is planning on filing a lawsuit against a, quote, major media company.
	And, you know, you're going to see this happen because, you know, if you're just calling people fake news and you're putting them on lists as fake news...
	Right.
	And you're calling...
	I've been reading Breitbart for years on and off.
	It does real reporting.
	Yeah.
	And I'd like to ask, you know, a member...
	In fact, a couple of people that got assaulted by Ladowski or whatever the guy's name is in the Trump campaign were at Breitbart before they made such a fuss.
	But when was it white supremacists?
	I've never noticed that in there.
	This is not Stormfront.
	Do they have a clue?
	Stormfront.
	There's a white supremacist group.
	Go there.
	And misogynist.
	What is them?
	Where's that coming from?
	Because they didn't like Hillary.
	This is like this is what you just witnessed on PBS News are was fake news.
	Can I give you another one?
	And she didn't have the gall to say, no, no, no, that's not right the way they describe it.
	Oh, no, they're fake news.
	Fake news of white supremacists.
	Let me give you another piece of fake news, because what I found myself doing was all these things that were just being said, particularly about the Trump transition team.
	So, of course, there are three actual announcements of positions.
	And one of those is Senator Sessions.
	I don't know that much about, and I certainly don't know much about the CIA guy.
	But when I hear things like, oh, I'm going to go investigate and see where does this come from?
	And CNN actually kind of answered it for me.
	It's likely Sessions alleged racist comments in the past that cost him a federal judgeship.
	Now, of course, the key is right off the bat saying alleged, but that's not really been the way it's explained.
	It's like the guy, he's a white supremacist.
	And this is Sessions.
	We're just pulling it all out.
	And here's the so-called proof of this alleged...
	White nationalism.
	It's likely Sessions' alleged racist comments in the past that cost him a federal judgeship will resurface during the confirmation hearing.
	During his 1986 confirmation hearings, colleagues testified he called the NAACP, quote, un-American and communist inspired.
	An African-American who had worked under Sessions testified that Sessions called him boy and joked about the KKK, saying he was okay with them until he learned that they smoked marijuana.
	This assertion is ludicrous.
	I detest the Klan.
	Very interesting they put that in there.
	I thought that this was something that there was actual evidence of, you know, audio tape, video tape.
	No, it's some guy who said, well, he called me boy and he said, you know, he made a joke about, which of course can all be in context or not.
	But it's very different from the way it's being portrayed.
	Well, here, listen to Andrea Mitchell do her thing on Sessions.
	This is NBC, Andrea Mitchell on Sessions.
	Then there's President-elect Trump's pick for Attorney General, veteran Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions, a hardliner on immigration, rejected by the Senate 30 years ago for a federal judgeship after accusations he had made racist comments.
	I am not a racist.
	I am not insensitive to blacks.
	Decades later, after Ferguson and Black Lives Matter, tonight's civil rights lawyers are speaking out.
	He has demonstrated a hostility towards our nation's civil rights and equality.
	And that is cause for concern.
	But supporters pointed Sessions' vote to extend the Voting Rights Act and to confirm Eric Holder.
	Okay, now I want you to, you gotta remember what she said at the end.
	Let's listen to it.
	Just the very end.
	The Voting Rights Act.
	Hold on.
	And that is cause for concern.
	But supporters pointed Sessions' vote to extend the Voting Rights Act and to confirm Eric Holder.
	Now, of course, this is the way they're presenting the news now.
	They blast, blast, blast, and they throw a few things in at the end.
	This is what I want everyone to pay attention to this way it's done.
	This is important.
	You go, blast, blast, blast, blast, but he also, you know, he likes puppies at the very end, and so people come up and say, well, you never said anything.
	Well, no, no, we said it.
	We said it right at the end.
	He likes puppies.
	Now, here is Jeff Sessions on Democracy.
	Now, with it in mind...
	That Andrea Mitchell mentioned that he did support the Voting Rights Act as it was being thrown out.
	Now listen to this report.
	Back in the United States, Donald Trump has chosen Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions to be Attorney General.
	Sessions is a former prosecutor who was elected to the Senate in 1996.
	As an Alabama senator, he's consistently supported anti-immigration legislation.
	In 2010, he was a leading proponent of the efforts to repeal the 14th Amendment, which grants citizenship to everyone born in the United States.
	Jeff Sessions has also been a vocal opponent of the Voting Rights Act.
	In 1986, President Ronald Reagan nominated Sessions for a federal judgeship, but he was denied confirmation because of his history of racist comments, including reportedly saying he thought the Ku Klux Klan, quote, was okay until I found out they smoked pot, unquote.
	Now, a couple of things.
	One, she was the opposite of Andrea Mitchell about the Voting Rights Act.
	She said he was fighting against it.
	So, assuming NBC has more resources than Democracy Now!, which is a reason for a sheet from what I can tell and they don't have any reporters out there, She's lying.
	Someone is.
	So that's fake news.
	The other thing was, she does this all the time, and it really bugs me.
	He supposedly said, or he was reported to say this crap about the Ku Klux Klan and marijuana.
	It's like a double hit.
	He hates the drug users and pot.
	And how can that be a direct quote when I saw the document say marijuana?
	Because the report that I had had a copy full screen.
	Of what he allegedly said that was testified to and it said, until I found out they smoked marijuana.
	End quote.
	She just said, quote, pot.
	End quote.
	She's always doing this quote, unquote thing about alleged statements.
	Yeah, that wasn't even close to the alleged.
	And it wasn't even accurate.
	This...
	I would...
	I would...
	Yeah, fake news.
	I'm sorry.
	Fake news.
	We need a fake news jingle.
	We need a fake news jingle.
	Oh, well, you know, we need a list.
	There you go.
	A list.
	Okay, maybe it would be easy to just say who is not fake, because this list is going to be too long.
	And all news has fake news or wrong news.
	I mean, all news.
	And how do I know this?
	Once you've been interviewed a couple of times by, I don't know, the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Financial Times, I've been interviewed by all of them.
	They all get something wrong.
	That's not necessarily because they're evil, but you don't get it right.
	It's just how journalism works.
	It's not possible.
	At least in my view, you don't get it right.
	And you asked me, and here's what I told you, and you still wrote it down differently.
	You could say, that's fake news.
	The New Yorker magazine, here's the editor of the New Yorker, I'm not sure.
	I think it was on with CBS. That 90-minute meeting between President Obama and Donald Trump.
	I think you're the closest to a fly on the wall as we can get.
	Okay, so now we've heard all the news about this meeting, although no one actually knows what happened in the meeting, but this guy kind of says that he might have an idea sort of, well...
	Fake!
	What did you learn about what happened inside the wall?
	Yes, that's fake news.
	I want to be very clear that the president is not, in fact, I asked him about that naturally, as any of you would, and he said, well, and he smiled and he said, I'll tell you all about it over a beer, off the record.
	What I do know about that meeting...
	I'm going to assume Donald Trump didn't tell him.
	I don't know who else was in the meeting, who else was there to tell him what happened.
	What you know about that meeting is, let's just say that Donald Trump did not show himself to be any more sophisticated about policy than he seemed to be in the debates or in the campaign.
	But that he was solicitous and that he was kind of in shock and awe, to coin a phrase, about the responsibility of the president.
	To coin a phrase means to coin a phrase, not to steal a phrase.
	He should have said, fake news, fake, fake.
	He should have said...
	Yeah, the phrase was already coined by a Republican president as he was killing brown people in the sand.
	About the responsibilities of actually being president.
	And Obama said to him, look...
	This is one thing I know, and one thing that Obama has revealed, that governing is not the same as campaigning.
	Circus is over.
	Okay, so listen to this.
	He says, the one thing I know that the president has revealed is that governing is not like campaigning.
	Yeah, he said that publicly.
	I don't recall the circus is over, quote, unquote.
	No, I don't recall that either.
	I think he made that up.
	Of course he made that up.
	Fake news.
	This is one thing I know, and one thing that Obama has revealed.
	Revealed.
	That governing is not the same as campaigning.
	Circus is over.
	Circus is over.
	Okay.
	And all of the so-called nominees, everything is fake news.
	No one knows anything.
	I think I have another hit piece here from CNBC. He's already making an impression here.
	I know, this is...
	This may be British.
	I forget which...
	Maybe Scott.
	He's already making an impression here.
	On sale in Moscow.
	The Trump-a-phone.
	Gold-plated with his portrait.
	Russian artists are painting him.
	Russian politicians...
	Say what?
	John?
	That's the BBC. Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	They're talking about how the Russians love Trump.
	Another fake news story.
	Russian politicians posing as him...
	And in the village of Kasimova, a rare honour indeed, they've declared Donald an honorary Cossack.
	But why?
	Because, unlike most US presidents, Trump wants good relations with Russia, says Cossack Chief Andrei, and because he has a beautiful Slavic wife.
	Makes nothing but sense.
	Yeah.
	That was BBC. He's a beautiful Slavic wife.
	So I think the BBC is one to look at because I'm watching, especially BBC America, I'm watching Katty K or whatever her name is, one of the three women that hosts the American version of the BBC News.
	Right.
	And she's beside herself with distress over this thing.
	Oh, this is the one that, yeah, I remember, yeah.
	The British are very upset by this, and so they're doing fake news to just slam him.
	I don't know what good it's going to do.
	I just don't get that, what they expect to accomplish besides just create a lot of ill will.
	But we'll see.
	I've noticed it on the Twitters.
	I only did a few tweets on my newsletter, this last one.
	But it's still going on.
	I mean, I can name various guys.
	A lot of Hollywood types.
	Who are just completely nuts.
	They don't apparently have anything else to do but do tweet after tweet after tweet after tweet.
	Lies, they say, about one thing or another.
	Now, let's just talk about the implications of this.
	As I said at the beginning of the show, I think this is what we've been waiting for.
	We knew this was coming this day.
	Ben, this is how it's being ushered in.
	Okay, the fake news affected the election.
	Fake news is rampant as what this administration, the new incoming administration, believes in fake news.
	And so we are going to have to come up with a ministry of truth or ministry of truthiness, maybe.
	Might even be better.
	Yeah.
	Licensing journalists is always a winner.
	Yes, that's right.
	Licensing journalists, podcast license.
	Of course, we have podcastlicense.com, which is good.
	It'll be good for about three seconds when the actual regulations come down the pipeline.
	That should be fun.
	But here's what I don't understand.
	With all the technologists and all the tech horny news shows, and everybody is so freaking smart about, oh, we're going to use algorithms and AI. Ugh!
	Doesn't it make infinitely more sense?
	And I think we should start one.
	We've already done this before.
	We did this years ago, and we need to do it again.
	But now we need to take a more serious approach.
	I mean, a serious approach from us can come.
	Browser plugins.
	This is the way to do it.
	If you have your bias, your cognitive dissonance, dissonance, dissonance, for all those who don't think I know how to pronounce it, You have your cognitive dissonance, and you get together as your group, and we'll call it the trigger plug-in, because, of course, we can't have fake news triggering you.
	And just whenever, you know, the browser plug-in filters out the bullshit.
	You won't even see the links.
	You won't even see the story.
	It won't even appear in Google searches, anywhere.
	And we can just do it by top-level domain.
	We can do it any way we want.
	There's a lot of ways to do it.
	I'm reminded of NetNanny, which apparently is what the public eats.
	It's a modern NetNanny.
	Yes, you're right.
	Keeping these sites away from you so you don't read the fake news.
	You won't see Breitbart, the white supremacist site.
	Instead of Operation Paperclip, it's Operation Safety Pin.
	There we go.
	Safety Pin, right.
	Safety Pin's the exact right symbol.
	Yes, it's totally the right symbol.
	Nanny, yeah.
	But the thing is, instead of everyone just waiting for Facebook and Google to do it, This could even be a national...
	Look, if you're so triggered by all this stuff, then we'll have...
	You can have the sanctioned government...
	Have a slider switch on your dashboard.
	Ooh, slider switch!
	Yes!
	Like, oh yes, more fake, less fake.
	Ooh, nice.
	Yes, hoosh!
	No, I think you can have multiple slider switches.
	You know, I want a little bit of fake news.
	I want a little bit of porn advertising.
	Just a tad.
	I want a bunch of sliders.
	People love the sliders.
	Yeah, we need some sliders.
	I do have the ultimate fake news story, which I thought was just so beautiful in this entire conversation about fake news.
	Because, of course, we know where the real fake news is.
	And I know, for multiple reasons I know, mainly because a lot of what this outfit reports on me is fake news.
	You can say false, inaccurate, but I prefer the term fake, since that seems to be what everyone uses.
	And this was...
	This played out in...
	It was a special Senate session.
	An oversight session, I believe, with Representative Nunes, along with multiple douches from the Pentagon, including our friend Clapper, before he quote-unquote resigned.
	Are you familiar with Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia?
	Yes, I am.
	Mr.
	Clapper?
	Generally.
	Generally.
	Generally, yes, sir.
	What an asshole.
	I'm sorry.
	What kind of answer is that even?
	Yeah, generally.
	Yeah, generally.
	Does the Department of Defense or the intelligence community edit Wikipedia pages on behalf of the U.S. government?
	I really can't speak authoritatively on that.
	I know I personally have never edited a Wikipedia page.
	I don't know off the top of my head.
	I don't think so, but I don't know.
	Yeah, he's always good at the hedge, isn't he?
	Off the top of my head.
	Just don't go any below it where I have the actual information.
	Well, he's got to be more careful now than ever.
	Oh, he knows, yeah, because he's a liar.
	He lied to Congress.
	Okay, off the top of my head, I don't know.
	Yeah.
	I don't think so, but I don't know.
	I don't think so is the right answer.
	It's like a performer.
	That's the answer he should have given when he perjured himself.
	Why did he just say, I can't recall?
	I mean, that's what everyone does.
	I can't recall.
	I don't know.
	I don't think so is a better answer.
	Okay.
	Knowledge, whether or not it happens or not, sir.
	Does the DOD or the IC use Wikipedia as an official source of information?
	I just don't know, Congressman.
	I would have to look into that.
	I don't know offhand if it's...
	Offhand.
	Another good one.
	Offhand.
	Offhand.
	This guy.
	Oh, man.
	He had already checked out here.
	He's like, I'm resigning tomorrow.
	I don't know.
	I know that the department and the IC community uses a lot of open source information.
	I don't know whether or not Wikipedia is one of those open sources.
	Well, Deputy Secretary work on March 21st.
	You and Director Clapper.
	Say what?
	Technically, it's not open source.
	No.
	It's creative comments.
	I know that the department and the IC community uses a lot of open source information.
	I don't know whether or not Wikipedia is one of those open sources.
	Well, Deputy Secretary Work, on March 21st, you and Director Clapper met with Chairman Thornberry, Chairman Freeling Heisen, and myself to discuss the analysis required.
	There's the trap!
	Set it open by the National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal year 2016 regarding the joint intelligence analysis complex slated to be built at the Croughton Air Base in the UK. Do you recall that meeting?
	I do indeed, sir.
	Director Clapper, do you recall that meeting?
	Yes, I do.
	Oh, yeah.
	Sure, of course.
	There's something I remember.
	Yes, okay.
	We had a great time.
	Remember that?
	We were hanging out.
	We had a nice lunch.
	We had a good dinner.
	We had a little meeting.
	Remember the hookers?
	Remember those hookers?
	Oh, yeah.
	I sure do.
	That was great.
	Sorry, Charlie.
	You just stepped into the trap.
	Do you recall that meeting?
	Yes, I do.
	Secretary Work, you informed the committee that Department of Defense did not intend to fully reevaluate lower-cost alternative sites for the Intelligence Center.
	As justification for your decision, you provided the committee with two documents regarding communications infrastructure supporting Laja's Field.
	I'm going to ask the clerk to please distribute Exhibit 1 and Exhibit 2, which includes one of the documents provided as justification for the department's decision.
	Secretary of Work, are you aware that significant portions of this document that you passed to three committee chairmen to meet a public law were plagiarized from Wikipedia?
	Well, sir, I can state with certainty that I did not provide Exhibit 2.
	Oh, start digging.
	I have never seen Exhibit 2.
	You have no idea.
	Well, I can now explain it.
	Exhibit 2 are the Wikipedia pages that were plagiarized for Exhibit 1 that you provided to meet public law.
	I see.
	I see.
	No, I did not know that the information...
	You want to hear more?
	It's still funny.
	I think you get the point.
	Yeah, play a little more.
	That document came from Wikipedia.
	Okay, so you can see basically all of the graphics in this, what you provided us, everything that's highlighted, that was all taken directly out of what we have in Exhibit 2.
	To provide to three committee chairmen to fulfill the requirements of the National Defense Authorization Act.
	Well, I'm just alarmed, Secretary of Work, that we would rely on Wikipedia, a free online encyclopedia that's famously known for most high school students plagiarizing their homework.
	And that the Department of Defense would even use Wikipedia, a free online service, to provide any information to Congress to put in any report.
	And he goes on and on.
	So there, that's real fake news being used by our defense, our trillion-dollar defense industry.
	Woo-hoo!
	Great.
	Unbelievable.
	Really, to me.
	It is unbelievable, because they have the resources.
	They have tons of people.
	They have the resources to do it right.
	So why don't they just go grab a Wikipedia page, slap it together, and give it to Congress and tell them to eat it?
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Beyond me.
	Alright, before we take a break, a little autrement?
	I'm okay.
	Yeah, because of course we're still afraid.
	We're very afraid.
	We're very afraid of this time.
	Oh, just racism, misogyny, horrible things.
	Oh, misogyny.
	Xenophobia.
	Xenophobia.
	They seem to have dropped xenophobia, which is bothering me because I was of the opinion that the word xenophobe and xenophobia was going to be word of the year.
	Huh.
	Because nobody's ever heard this word before.
	I mean, I have, and you have, but the public at large didn't know what it meant until, you know...
	What did become the word of the year?
	Well, it's not that you're still going.
	I thought I saw a news article about the word of the year.
	Well, maybe for two...
	Well, I would hope that they let the year finish before they have the word of the year.
	No, it's kind of like the Oscars.
	No, here, Stephen Colbert goes off on Oxford's...
	Oxford Dictionary's word of the year.
	And that came out.
	Let me see what it says here.
	Post-truth.
	Fake news.
	All right.
	Post-truth is 2016's most important word according to Oxford's Dictionary.
	Well, that's Oxford's most important.
	I'd rather have the Merriam-Webster.
	I think they do one.
	I think there's a couple of American dictionaries as opposed to Oxford's, which usually have these popular words that became popular that year.
	Right.
	Like selfie, I think, was like last year or the year before.
	Yeah.
	Stuff like that.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Well, we still have to be very afraid because, as you know, the Trump people are just haters, violent.
	They're doing all kinds of horrible, horrible things.
	And, well, you know who the arbiters are of all things frightening.
	It is the ladies of the view.
	This is America.
	Black people are not going anywhere.
	They're not going to be slaves anymore.
	So take that out your head.
	Muslims who were born here.
	Is that your whoopee?
	As Americans are not going anywhere.
	We're not going anywhere.
	I don't know why you don't get this part.
	But they're being harassed.
	Hold on a second.
	Stop the clip.
	They all said they were going somewhere.
	They're all going to leave the country.
	No, they're not going anywhere.
	They're not going anywhere.
	Well, wait a minute.
	They promised to leave the country.
	If we voted in Trump, we voted in Trump so they would leave the country.
	That was the idea.
	In fact, that's why a lot of people voted Trump, I'm sure.
	I think that's the reason Trump won.
	I think she meant something else when she says we're going to get out.
	Get out of my vagina!
	She meant something else.
	Oh, okay.
	We're not going anywhere.
	I don't know why you don't get this part.
	But they're being harassed.
	We're all being harassed.
	These people are being harassed.
	Somebody I know, a gay boy, a friend of mine.
	I love this.
	Imagine anyone saying, a friend of mine, gay boy.
	Come on, people.
	Since when is this okay?
	She said gay boy?
	Yeah, listen.
	Where?
	We're not going anywhere.
	I don't know why you don't get this part.
	But they're being harassed.
	We're all being harassed.
	These people are being harassed.
	Somebody I know, a gay boy, a friend of mine.
	How does that work?
	How did you get away with that?
	You can't say the gays, but it's okay to say he's a friend of mine, so I call him a gay boy.
	Come on.
	You know that he is a LGBTQ plus community member who happens to be your friend.
	These people are outrageous.
	A gay boy.
	It's terrible.
	A gay boy.
	We're all being harassed.
	These people are being harassed.
	Somebody I know, a gay boy, a friend of mine, put on Facebook that he was on 10th Avenue in New York the other day.
	I'm a Trump supporter.
	I mean, this is happening in New York City now.
	And I had a driver last night, an Uber driver, who was a Pakistani guy, and he said that he's frightened.
	What kind of country is this now?
	People better not sit back and just take it because they have all the power in the White House, in the Senate, in the House of Representatives.
	The FBI is in their pocket.
	We have to be the loyal opposition in this country.
	They are in, John.
	The royal opposition.
	Did she say loyal?
	She said loyal.
	No, she says royal.
	Yes, she says royal.
	We have to be the loyal opposition in this country.
	She's saying loyal.
	She's saying loyal.
	Listen again.
	I think she was mumbling.
	We have to be the loyal opposition in this country.
	I'm telling you, I watched the clip.
	I couldn't believe what she said.
	I mean, I'm not a liberal.
	Royal opposition.
	I think she was between words or something.
	Royal and loyal.
	You have different mouth formings.
	And it was an R. Actually, it was a royale with cheese, I think, is what she wanted.
	In this country, that's what we're here for.
	Thank you.
	But I will say there was also, and by the way, my optimism was just about the photo ops, that bringing in, going from here.
	That's my optimism.
	But there, you know, in fairness, too, there was a guy that was wearing Make America Great again hat on the subway and was totally beat up.
	Down in D.C., there was a woman.
	Yes, it's a response you're going to get.
	I know, but I'm just saying it's on both sides.
	Hold on, let's try this out.
	How about Royal as in R-O-I-L? How about that?
	Royal opposition.
	Yeah.
	I can see Behar coming up with that.
	Yeah, I can too.
	Yeah, I'll take it.
	Wait a second.
	Wait a second.
	It did not start.
	We're seeing incidents from anger on both sides.
	And that's why I think the onus is on our leaders to come out and say, please peacefully protest.
	That is your constitutional right.
	But no more violence.
	Violence, I agree.
	Never, okay.
	I was waiting with all these protests.
	I thought Trump would come out, and you know how we've all said it would help.
	Right now, the problem is his silence is letting his appointments speak for him.
	This is bullcrap.
	I'm amazed that he's not listening to the women of The View.
	He's come out a number of times.
	The View's not playing.
	No, he has to come out in front of Trump Tower and confront the protesters.
	That's what she's talking about.
	Get rocked.
	They're throwing rocks at the guy.
	The violence is obvious.
	You all do see all the riots going on.
	I don't see any Trump riots going on.
	Oh, baby.
	Oh, baby.
	I've got a little bit left in this clip.
	Appointments speak for him.
	That's right.
	And those are scary.
	His appointments are scary.
	I disagree that we're seeing it on both sides.
	I think too many people are saying that.
	I think there's this false equivalency.
	You see protests...
	And remember, John, before we go to the false equivalency, remember, yes, they're afraid, because when you...
	Just like the Hamilton cast...
	They're afraid of Pence.
	The gay boy, a gay boy, is afraid of Pence.
	Of course he is.
	If he's been told that they want to, Pence specifically wants to take away his HIV treatment funds and channel it towards conversion therapy, heck yeah, you're scared.
	Of course you are.
	Despite the fact there's no evidence of this.
	Correct.
	But I cannot discount the fear.
	We're here in Florida.
	Nice little trip for us.
	But of course, Tina lived here for I think 16 years.
	So I'm on display.
	It's cool.
	I took her to meet my family and everything.
	Does she have you stripped naked and put a collar around your neck?
	Yeah, and I got this tiger print on and everything.
	Yeah, it's perfect.
	You know, Tiger Prince string, G-string.
	And she has friends who voted for Trump, and she has friends who voted for Hillary.
	Sorry?
	I would guess that the Hillary friends are more numerous.
	Well, we've only had two friend dinners so far.
	Tonight we have a third.
	And then tomorrow night with Horowitz.
	Um...
	Well, I'll tell you, but what I found very interesting is her really super hillbott friend, like massive, super Jewish, interestingly, from New York, who's lived here for, I don't know, 15, 20 years.
	Because she looked at Tina and she went, well, here's how the dinner started.
	This is better.
	And I'd met her before, but I've seen her Facebook and it's like, you know, misogynist, racist, all of that's in there.
	Every single thing we've heard she's posting.
	Xenophobia.
	All of it.
	And trying to keep it alive.
	Right.
	And I don't think she knew this because she was in Austin and we went out to dinner.
	But then she said, well, so we're sitting down to dinner.
	Well, I listened to your show.
	It's all never good.
	Well, I listened to your show, and, well, you know, I really, really liked the 30 cents on the dollar you guys were talking about with Obamacare and how you could deal, you know, the problems with that.
	But there were other things.
	I just had to turn it off.
	I couldn't listen.
	I couldn't listen.
	I said, hey, how are you doing?
	Would you like a drink before we have dinner?
	But...
	Couldn't listen.
	Why?
	Because the things were so offensive that we said.
	The things we were saying were so offensive to her.
	But I will say, because of course she had met me before, she didn't know what we talk about on the show, and I can see where if you, no matter who you are, you can come in and think these guys are douchebags for X, Y, you could think about any, because we offend equally, or as equal as possible.
	Yeah.
	But because she knows and loves Tina, and she had met me before, and she was really open to listening to some points of view, and all I was trying to do was just say, well, these are the things that you've been told, but the way you're recounting them are not exactly the way it happened.
	And she was, I have to say, she was very open to listening, but what got me at the end, my conclusion, my takeaway, and this is for all the friends, of course women, but I'm meeting the husbands too.
	They really are just afraid of violence and an evil world.
	And that's what...
	It's consistent.
	I just want people to be...
	We need to stop the killing.
	And they're very afraid of the violence.
	I think that's what George Bush and Dick Cheney preyed upon.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	To an extreme, especially with all those, oh, remember the yellow alert, the orange alert, and all the green, there's never green, because we're always under, you know, it's always dangerous, always orange, never green.
	Whereas, as we know, that if you look statistically, we live in the safest world ever.
	Right.
	Ever.
	You're more likely to get hit by lightning than what happens.
	But our brains are, and mine is too, our brains are completely fried from the massive inputs of information, of which a lot, if not most, is fake news.
	So...
	But that was the takeaway.
	And actually, when I heard that, I'm like, you know, I get it.
	I get it.
	You've been terrorized.
	Just absolutely.
	She's been terrorized.
	Now, here's what's disappointing to me when I hear stories like this.
	Because we have a lot of producers and people that just listen and never help.
	But we have a lot.
	And we get a lot of notes from many of them.
	And they always talk about how the show has a calming effect.
	Because we get this out of their system as best we can.
	And it seems to me that people like her probably prefer being terrorized because we're the antidote to that.
	We're not making it worse.
	Right.
	Interesting.
	Interesting.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Wow.
	I hadn't thought of it that way.
	And it's not like, you know, she's obviously a very intelligent woman.
	It's not like she said, oh, I want to be terrorized.
	But there is something, some programming that's going on where we seem to need more of it.
	You hit an interesting point there.
	Yeah.
	There could be endorphins for all I know.
	Do you remember when kids, when I was a kid, the scariest thing for me was the Ouija board.
	I didn't have any of this other stuff.
	Remember that?
	Oh man, the Ouija board, I'm freaking out!
	Mom, mom, mom, we need a Ouija board!
	All that good stuff.
	So I want to pick this up in a moment.
	But you just said, you know, obviously, it's so true.
	We are the antidote because we're not here to make it.
	I think you're right.
	I don't recall us really ever.
	We have been talking about reality, but I don't think we've ever really been fear mongering about anything.
	In fact, just the opposite.
	We talk about how these things are like the swine flu was.
	It was a bullshit thing.
	Today we'll probably talk a little bit about how Zika has been pulled off the list.
	It's a phony balloon.
	We called that from the beginning is what it was.
	And you actually broke down the billion dollars or 1.9 or whatever.
	1.9 billion dollars, exactly.
	Which went to everything but Zika.
	So we do try to be antidote.
	And sometimes the antidote is sometimes nastier than the venom itself.
	But, wow, philosophical.
	With that...
	I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. Where the C stands for Call Him Grandpa Dvorak.
	And in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning to all ships and sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and nights out there.
	In the morning to the chat room, noagendastream.com.
	Everybody, thank you.
	Doing a good job today.
	Handing all kinds of goodies to me.
	That's very helpful.
	This is how I like it to work.
	This is how it does work.
	And thank you to Nick the Rat.
	Who brought us the artwork for episode 878.
	Well, it was the no agenda on the blackboard.
	Being erased.
	Being erased, yes.
	That's right.
	Yeah, it was very subtle, very good.
	Very subtle.
	It was a good-looking piece.
	Yeah, it was dynamite.
	Thank you.
	Nick Durrett can do good work.
	Yes.
	And he can do great work.
	And we appreciate the work all of our artists do.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com Keep it coming, please.
	So we do have a few people to thank you.
	As executive producers, we've got three of those and four, and a couple of associate executive producers, starting with Jason Simpson, who came in with $1118.80 from Seattle.
	Holy moly.
	What's the breakdown of that?
	I see the 880, but he just added three, like a trio of ones?
	Not sure.
	Nice.
	Half a dozen shows, and I'm...
	Oh, it's only...
	We need more people like Jason.
	Oh, man.
	He's seen a half a dozen shows, and he's finally sold.
	No, he says, half a dozen shows in, and I'm sold.
	Making it drizzle from Seattle, I humbly request the title of Sir Jason.
	He's an instantite.
	Ah, the triple three is make it rain, of course.
	Making it drizzle.
	Yeah, got it.
	That's a drizzling.
	Sir Jason of Cascadia.
	Keep keeping hysterics in check and keep the people grounded in reality.
	Thank you, which is what we tend to do.
	Fantastic.
	Big-ass karma for you, sir.
	Look forward to your ceremony.
	You've got karma.
	Nice, nice.
	Now, Sir Nicholas Neff...
	Naftaliotis in Waukegan, Illinois, didn't leave a note.
	Oh.
	And I went and looked back and I found, I mean, he was knighted in September, and he's Sir Nikos of the American Midwest.
	I remember that.
	I have nothing from him.
	But he's got no note, so we will just give him some karma and thank him.
	Yes, thank you so much.
	You've got karma.
	He will also get that triple credit.
	Yeah, he will get a triple credit for $880, even though it's, yeah, $880.
	That's what it is.
	Now, have you pulled all the $880s?
	Because you know, next show, and be like, hey man, where are the $880s?
	I have them put aside.
	Sir Olaf, a.k.a.
	Walwo, guardian of the Bavarian beer brewers.
	Yes.
	He's our brewer in Munich, which is München, Deutschland.
	And...
	I'm sure I'd just love to go over there just to drink, go hang out with him and drink Pilsners all over the place at the different bars.
	I'm sure he knows exactly.
	He's like our guy in our night in New Zealand who's like a major, major brewer.
	Yeah, but the No Agenda beer.
	I could use one of those now.
	Dear John and Adam, now it's time to celebrate my friend's son's birthday with another 333 donation.
	Oscar will be 6 on November 24th and is looking forward to hearing his name on the birthday section.
	He just heard it again.
	This is part of my duty as a dad to counterbalance the influence of mainstream media.
	I was very surprised as Quentin, who is now in the third grade, told me the new president of the United States is a bad man.
	There you go.
	Child abuse, I'm telling you.
	Child abuse.
	He was not upset but curious how this could happen.
	I learned the entire...
	You should just tell him it's because everybody wanted the Hollywood celebrities to move out of the country.
	That was the only reason he won.
	That's right.
	He was not upset, but curious how this could happen.
	I learned the entire class was discussing U.S. politics.
	With my no-agenda background, I was able to inject some new talking points to the conversation.
	Now, thanks again for giving us our twice-weekly dose of sanity and humor.
	Olaf Wolfdell, a.k.a.
	Sowalwo, Garden of the Bavarian Beer Brewers.
	Very nice.
	We'll give him a comment as well.
	He doesn't ask for any jingles, so I hand it out for him.
	You've got Carmen.
	Another birthday here with Teresa Huxley, $333.
	Parts Unknown USA. It's my and my brother Jeff's birthday month.
	How could I not donate my birthday checks to you all, plus some?
	My Florida Gators won with three field goals and three seconds on the clock.
	Nice.
	Can I get a wee and karma?
	A wee it is!
	You've got karma.
	We go to associate executive producer David Van Sunder.
	And he sent a note in, I think.
	I will have to go grab it.
	Van Sunder.
	Let's see.
	We can do a quick search.
	Let no man put Van Sunder.
	Great.
	Sorry.
	It's just, you know, my natural singing ability.
	No, it wasn't.
	Let me see.
	No, I don't have any.
	I have old emails from him.
	I have one.
	Okay.
	Associate Executive Producer Note.
	I'm assuming that's it.
	I wanted to thank you both for the tremendous analysis over the past few years, and especially during the past election.
	Some people aren't willing to hear the truth.
	You met one.
	So often people aren't willing to say...
	Stop, stop, stop.
	She totally opened up.
	Some people aren't willing to hear the truth, so often people aren't willing to say the truth, which is another problem.
	So thank you both for speaking the truth so that us producers don't feel alone and crazy for not believing what the mainstream media is peddling.
	And that's all they really care about, peddling products for their advertisers.
	There you go.
	I always have to remember that.
	My wife and I are going through a bit of politics over here trying to find a new location for our physical therapy clinic because the company that bought the building released space and looks like they will be giving our space to someone else without allowing us to match the offer.
	That's some sort of bigotry, I'm sure.
	People have to go in and out of their wheelchairs.
	I'd sue them.
	We have a space that we're trying to get now that would be bigger and better.
	But like I said, the politics are what we're trying to overcome to show that we are the right people to be in the space.
	And it's not even about the money.
	It's about the city, some new development in town and whether we would best serve the downtown.
	Forget whether or not we help people walk around who haven't walked in years or make seniors able to safely walk and enjoy their lives.
	Why would that matter?
	A little cynicism there.
	So since I've discovered what I can do to help out for now, I thought I would at least give you help out by stepping up the producer credit to give you something despite the politics that cost you some listeners, which it did.
	Please keep doing what you're doing.
	It's appreciated.
	No requests or anything.
	He did have a second note, which I'll open just to see if there is a...
	He's in the Pacific.
	Oh, he's in Pacific Grove.
	That's interesting.
	That's all it said in the second note.
	Okay.
	Let's give him a karma.
	We might as well give him a karma.
	Definitely.
	You've got karma.
	Okay, we have another note sender.
	Anonymous.
	This is our last one, by the way.
	$200.
	We don't have a big group today.
	Sending a separate email as requested jingles.
	If you could write it in here, you could write it in here.
	Never mind.
	Too picky.
	Let me see if I can get this.
	Is this the anonymous?
	Yeah.
	I have it here.
	Oh, you have it?
	Okay.
	So this was a donation on behalf of himself and his wife.
	Can I mention her name?
	I don't see this in the season.
	No, don't mention it.
	It's anonymous.
	Yeah, alright.
	Well, she shows up in the birthday list, but we won't be able to listen.
	Okay, well then mention it then.
	Anyway, thanks for all you do, and especially providing clarity and humor during this crazy election season.
	My wife and I voted for third-party candidates, and it sometimes felt like there was no escaping the political and media insanity this election.
	The No Agenda show really is a breath of fresh air.
	Andy has a little sequence here, which I don't have to mention to you because I already looked him up.
	So, I mean, that is the land of unconfirmed radio.
	We came, we saw, he died.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Intelligence work takes place within a strong legal framework.
	We operate under the rule of law and are accountable for it.
	In some countries, secret intelligence is used to control their people.
	In ours, it only exists to protect their freedoms.
	Protect their freedoms.
	You've got karma.
	There we go.
	I think he makes this point about keep us anonymous.
	I wonder if we can use his wife's name at all.
	I think you just call her out for her birthday.
	That's what I said.
	She knows who she is.
	Yes, I know.
	It's all good.
	Is that it?
	I think that's it, isn't it?
	That's it.
	That's a little group of executive and associate executive producers for show 879.
	We've got show 880 coming up on Thanksgiving.
	We'll be working on Thanksgiving.
	That'll be our super lucky show because 880 is like the major Chinese lucky numbers.
	And we hope that we get a nice turnout.
	And not only that, but as always, every year on Thanksgiving, John will be telling us the history of Thanksgiving.
	The true history of Thanksgiving.
	The bogus history of...
	Right.
	The bogus holiday that it is.
	The bogus holiday that it is.
	And we will be giving you Thanksgiving cooking tips.
	That's where you say, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, that's great.
	Think of one dish, John.
	Just think of one dish everyone can make.
	I mean, my dish is always the same.
	It's my fabulous stuffing, which is just stovetop.
	I just say I made it.
	It's the best.
	Oh, yeah.
	See, I actually make a real stuffing, and I actually stuff it in the bird.
	Uh, which, oh!
	You're gonna die if you stuff it in the bird!
	Okay, that is just a preview of what you'll be hearing on the next show on Thursday.
	Remember us for then at...
	You may die if you put the stuffing in the bird, but you won't if you propagate our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water.
	Water.
	Shut up, slave.
	Shut up, slave.
	All right, I got a couple of things.
	I just wanted to hook into the post-election and analysis, and this was great.
	You know how people go on European news shows and they don't think anyone's watching, particularly some stupid small-ass country that no one really knows much about?
	I know.
	I don't know what you got, but I've always been highly amused by this, too.
	I love...
	What was the last one?
	You think you can go overseas and be on some obscure show and say what you want?
	Yeah.
	But the No Agenda show has its producers globally.
	So when you think, eh, it's just those stupid Dutch, stupid Netherlands.
	Eh, what do they know?
	I can say whatever I want.
	I'm Sidney Blumenthal, dammit.
	I'm an important man.
	I can tell you what really went down.
	Why Hillary didn't win.
	It was the result of a cabal of right-wing agents of the FBI in the New York office attached to Rudy Giuliani.
	Who was a member of Trump's campaign.
	And I think it's not unfair to call it a coup.
	A coup, even.
	A coup d'etat.
	A coup d'etat, John.
	It's fair to call it a coup.
	Holy crap, this guy has his nerve.
	Yeah, it's a coup d'etat.
	There was a legal election that he calls a coup d'etat because of the FBI. One FBI office in New York.
	Yeah.
	Really?
	With Rudy Giuliani, you know.
	The coup meister.
	Oh, yeah.
	Rudy is the rebel.
	The coup meister.
	The coup meister.
	That's what we're going to call him from now on.
	Rudy Giuliani is the coup meister.
	Because he's involved.
	It was all his fault.
	How come he couldn't get himself elected president if he's so in on that sort of thing?
	Just cabal.
	Yeah, he ran, didn't he?
	The kookabal.
	Yes, he did.
	And the kookabal didn't pay off.
	The kookabal.
	Oh, man, I'm writing faster than I can speak.
	All right, the kookabal.
	Beautiful.
	Well, I have a little package of a couple of reasons why Hillary lost.
	By the way, you get a borderline clip of the day.
	Oh, man, thank you.
	A great, great catch by our producers.
	Thank you.
	Just love that.
	Just love that.
	What a douche.
	Okay, so now I have a little package of a couple of the reasons why Hillary Clinton lost.
	Are you okay?
	What was that?
	That was an animal.
	Are you squeezing little animals during the show again?
	Little animal.
	Oh, man.
	All right.
	Harry Reid agrees with Sidney Blumenthal.
	It was all about the FBI. James Comey in particular.
	He did it.
	It's easy to second guess what Hillary did.
	I love Hillary Clinton.
	I'm sorry she lost.
	I did everything I could to help.
	I could go through a litany of things.
	There's no question in my mind.
	She won this election.
	Without any problem, if Comey had not been the Republican operative that he is.
	For example...
	Those are strong words, Senator.
	But I believe it.
	He came out against what the Attorney General had recommended, against what common sense dictates.
	He is the reason she lost the elections.
	So you want one reason?
	That's it.
	Comey, he can be fat and happy in his office there for seven more years after having thrown an election to Donald Trump.
	And if he feels good about that, That's nice.
	That's nice.
	That's fighting words, Harry.
	That's nice.
	If he feels good about it, well, that's nice.
	Dang.
	Here's a quick clip that is not really an explanation necessarily, but it kind of ties into what I'm hearing from Tina's friends.
	And I'm pretty sure, as I said, women in general, moms, let's just put it that way, moms, This is a CNN report, and then we'll get into, you know, the actual reason that this took place regarding women.
	Nothing in Leonore...
	Wait, wait.
	You never finished your sentence.
	What part?
	You said something I've noticed, moms, and then there was supposed to be some follow-up to that, I would think.
	No, no.
	The women...
	I said moms.
	Moms.
	Women slash moms.
	Moms in particular.
	What?
	What about them?
	Oh, they're afraid.
	They're afraid.
	And this loss of this Hillary's...
	I'm sorry, you're right.
	It's a little out of sequence.
	Hillary's loss is, you know, it's put them into a state of fear.
	Nothing in Leonora Pitts' routine in her liberal community in Los Angeles has changed in the weeks since the presidential election.
	Yet California has.
	Why is this so personal for you?
	Children matter to me and our minorities matter to me because they're my friends and they're my community.
	And I want to make sure that they're okay and they don't feel okay.
	They feel really scared.
	If 2016 was identity politics, women across social media feel theirs is under attack in Clinton's loss.
	Video messages from Miley Cyrus.
	Please.
	Please just treat people with love and treat people with compassion.
	Emotion is spilled onto the streets of Los Angeles.
	Mothers carrying signs and children.
	Students walking out of classrooms at UCLA. These UCLA students supported Hillary Clinton.
	When you say you have fear in you, what do you mean?
	Well, I'm a woman.
	I'm black.
	I'm Muslim.
	And those three factors Basically, being a black Muslim woman in America today is very scary.
	And Trump being elected just further builds on to my fear.
	I've had to wake up to the reality that a lot of America is not like what Los Angeles is like.
	No kidding.
	More than a week on, West Coast women are still learning about their new national reality.
	It just doesn't look like any reality they believed they were living.
	Right.
	You're not in that reality.
	Absolutely right.
	That is completely spot on.
	You're in a bubble.
	It's a bubble.
	Yes.
	Of course, California's a bubble.
	In Southern California, where Trump, in one county alone, accounts for most of Hillary's popular vote victory, over a million votes above Trump's votes.
	It's a complete bubble down there, and it's a bubble in most of the state.
	Here's the kicker.
	Here is the kicker.
	As we listen to yet another analysis, but this is from Clinton's campaign communications chief, Jess McIntosh.
	She is going to tell us what she, and I will just surmise that even though Hillary Clinton has said it was Comey, and there's a lot of Comey out there, and a lot of racism, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	But listen to her analysis and why she thinks, well, it basically didn't work trying to go after fearful women.
	My understanding from my conversations with the Clinton folks, right, is that there's a certain demographic...
	Everyone sort of comes up with a demographic path to victory.
	And in some ways, the demographic bet was there's going to be some demographics in which she underperforms that will be made up for ones in which she overperforms.
	And one of those was women particularly, Republican women, white women.
	We should be clear, women of color overwhelmingly voted for her and have overwhelmingly voted for every Democratic presidential candidate.
	But she, among white women...
	Didn't do any different than essentially Obama in 2012, a point better?
	Yeah.
	How do you make sense of that?
	I mean, internalized misogyny is a real thing, and this is a thing that we have to be talking about.
	Now listen to what she's saying.
	Internalized misogyny.
	And as it plays out, it becomes clear that I think I'm right at what she's saying.
	She's saying that women have internalized misogyny, and that's why they didn't turn out in huge numbers for Hillary.
	In fact, only, according to their numbers, MSNBC, 1% higher than President Obama.
	I find this very interesting.
	Internalized misogyny is a real thing, and this is a thing that we have to be talking about as we go through and see.
	What does that mean, though?
	My guess is, look, the President said it the best.
	During this whole campaign, we as a society react poorly to women seeking positions of power.
	We are uncomfortable at it and then we seek to justify that uncomfortable feeling because it can't possibly be because we don't want to see a woman in that position of power.
	We need to, as we go through these numbers, as we figure out exactly what happened with turnout, it seems to be white college educated women.
	My guess is that breaks down married, unmarried.
	My guess is it breaks down older, younger.
	But we have work to do talking to those women About what happened this year and why we would vote against our self-interests.
	I find this fascinating.
	So she's saying women actually delivered the loss.
	With internalized misogyny, which her examples are, we feel women really shouldn't be leading.
	Women, women, not we, women.
	Who I presume were Democrats or I don't know, you know, just all women in general.
	That's some pretty deep stuff right there.
	It's not as though the women voted 90% for Trump.
	No.
	I mean, they actually expected...
	I think this is a projection of an expectation.
	The Democrats literally expected women to vote for a woman because she's a woman.
	And they point back at...
	Barack Obama and the black population voted 93% lockstep for Barack Obama because they're black and he's black.
	Oh, we need a black guy.
	I'm voting black because he's black.
	No, no, no.
	You know why they voted for President Obama?
	Because black lives matter.
	See, not all lives matter.
	Women's lives don't matter.
	Back to the point.
	They expected this similar turnout for women for a woman.
	Yep.
	But the women, not being idiots, voted like they normally vote.
	They voted for this person or that person and it turned out that they voted mostly for Trump.
	Exactly.
	Now, just to wrap this up.
	It wasn't like overwhelming for Trump.
	It was just like a majority.
	It wasn't the number they wanted.
	That's what it was.
	Well, they didn't want anybody voting for Trump.
	Right, right.
	Now, just to wrap it up...
	If you're a woman, why would you vote for Trump?
	He's a man.
	Penis.
	Evil penis.
	Last night, we had dinner with another one of Tina's friends, also Jewish.
	And she and her husband voted for Trump.
	And as I'm trying to just...
	Man, she's happy, and she even went through some medical crap recently, so she had all reason to be not happy, but she'd just be fantastic.
	She's feeling great, happy, shiny.
	Her kids are very successful.
	They're optimistic.
	In fact, they're a little bit older.
	They're like, you're right, 65.
	They're a little bit older.
	Yeah.
	But I'm convinced, because these are Republicans, I'm convinced the reason why is because, and I'm not advocating this at all, at all, at all, quite the opposite, because there's a lot of things wrong with it, but I'm convinced that they have watched more Fox News and have received information about the evils of the Clinton Empire and Bill, Inc., But they haven't been traumatized with fear, because I watch it all.
	You watch it too, John.
	Fox News was just not throwing the terror of your children and black people and Muslims and all of that, and just, they were not ginning up this fear.
	I can't pin it on anything else.
	It's the information diet.
	And it doesn't mean it's right.
	Well, I would say that you're not giving enough credit to social media.
	I think a lot of the fear, and it's who you follow, the social media has, and I would say, I know this has happened on Facebook, but even though I don't use it, but the way it's been on Twitter, is at some point you start to gravitate toward people that don't annoy you.
	And so you end up in a huge bubble, because I like to get into the other bubble as much as I can, and I start clicking on all these different people that are in that bubble.
	And all you hear is hate.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's not healthy, but you hear just so much hate us, and there's a lot of it coming out of Hollywood people, which is very, you know, depressing, because these Hollywood people, you know, they're just beside themselves, and it's like a bubble within a bubble within a bubble, and you get into one of those little bubbles, you can do it on Twitter, and then you can follow it, you can go through the streams that other people, you know, all their tweets for less...
	Month.
	Yeah.
	And you're just like, holy crap, this person is insane.
	And then you go to somebody else and you do the same thing here and there and you find that, huh, I had no idea that this guy, you know, Was this nutty about this?
	There are a few sane people who have stayed off of this, but for the most part, when you go on one of these little tweet, I'd say, binges.
	Recon missions.
	You go and you look and it's tweet after tweet after tweet after tweet after.
	There's nothing else.
	There's no tweets about, hey, I saw a cool car.
	Oh, look at this.
	This is a funny news story about a duck, you know, that has a friend, a pet cat, you know, this sort of thing, which is all over the place.
	No, no.
	It's Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, tweet, tweet, tweet.
	It's like, holy, you guys need to get some some psychiatric help or something.
	You're obsessing.
	When Adam needs to make an example of some typical slaves, he just reads the comments on their Facebook page.
	Gonna read Facebook, gonna lose some rain cells.
	Yeah.
	I think now it's appropriate to read the facebag post that I didn't get to on Thursday.
	All ears.
	So this is from a woman in Austin who I know.
	Tonight as I was driving home from the pool, my thoughts turned to my neighbors.
	A gay couple who just celebrated their 25th anniversary together a few months ago.
	No, this is not going where you think.
	They told me several months ago they were voting for Trump.
	I know.
	How?
	Successful white gay men, beautiful home, good lives.
	How could this monster speak to them?
	I've been in pain over this relationship.
	My friendship.
	I genuinely love these guys.
	Yesterday evening when walking Stella, I saw the older one outside their house.
	They live just up the street from me, and I normally run over and say hello, but...
	I turned my back in pain, hoped he did not see me, and went quickly in the front vestibule of my home.
	Who the fuck says vestibule?
	Tonight, my thoughts turned again to these friends.
	I don't hate them, I just don't know how I ever look at them.
	Knowing that they are part of and the horrid damage unfolding.
	What will happen at that moment when they ring my bell or call and the tears came, flowing from my eyes?
	I thought of my mother, who had to have an illegal abortion in 1967 to save her life in the fifth month of her pregnancy, and I gasped through my tears.
	I'm so sorry, Mom.
	We really tried.
	I thought of my three beautiful nieces, who I hope someday, when they are ready, will be mothers.
	What if that control is taken from them?
	What if they go through what their grandmother did and have a dangerous pregnancy?
	What will their options be?
	Will their options be criminalized?
	Will they have to have a funeral for a stillborn fetus?
	Will they have to risk their lives and their freedom and do what their grandmother did?
	All these unbearably sad sad thoughts.
	I thought of my ancestors in Eastern Europe, murdered by Nazis.
	I thought of my cousins living in orphanages through the bravery of those who were part of the resistance and saved them during the Kindertransport, taking them away from their home in Austria secretively to live without ever seeing their parents again, first in the homes of strangers and in orphanages in England, and finally as immigrants to the United States.
	And I thought again of my neighbors, and what if someone harms them because they are gay?
	The floodgates of sadness, fear, concern and anger.
	I am bereft with grief.
	The knowledge that at my age I will be a soldier and perhaps not live again to see the democracy I love so dearly heal itself and once again embrace kindness and equality makes me so, so sad.
	There you go.
	Why would somebody post that?
	She's sad.
	Well, fine.
	She needs to share her sadness.
	I understand what she's doing.
	I'm not taking her reality away from her at all.
	But, damn, it's different from mine.
	Yes, I would say.
	Yes, I would say.
	Very different.
	Well, but, okay, I think to wrap it up for me, for today, for all of this, we have other stuff to get to.
	Finally, there was an interview with Ground Zero himself.
	No, not John Oliver.
	No, no, no.
	John Stewart.
	Jon Stewart, who I believe is the influencer in a lot of the sanctimonious smugness that we see on television about opposing views to the globalists.
	He has properly trained Samantha Bee, who has her own show, of course.
	Properly trained John Oliver.
	And, of course, also trained Stephen Colbert, although he hasn't done that very properly because Colbert is just not able to do it.
	When he's not in his Republican character.
	So Charlie over there at the CBS Morning News interviewed John, and he had a couple of interesting things to say, and also a vision about the United States, which I'd like to discuss with you.
	So we'll start off.
	So here is John Stewart, very surprised about, well, just surprising answers about the outcome of the election.
	I thought Donald Trump disqualified himself at numerous points.
	But there is now this idea that anyone who voted for him has to be defined by the worst of his rhetoric.
	Like, there are guys in my neighborhood that I love, that I respect, that I think have incredible qualities, who are not afraid of Mexicans and not afraid of Muslims and not afraid of blacks.
	They're afraid of their insurance premiums.
	In the liberal community, you hate this idea of creating people as a monolith.
	Don't look at Muslims as a monolith.
	They are individuals, and it would be ignorance.
	But everybody who voted for Trump is a monolith.
	I like that he says that.
	Everyone who voted for Trump, but you can't call them monoliths if you don't want other people to call Muslims as a monolith, is a racist.
	I don't know what this disqualified thing is baffling to me.
	I don't think he's saying that this in particular is disqualifying.
	But then comes this bit about...
	What is disqualifying according to the Constitution?
	Turns out that he's only 32, so that would be disqualifying.
	Yeah, okay.
	I mean, if you want to go back to five shows ago when we were talking about what disqualifying means, we can?
	No, go on, just keep playing.
	I just find it screwy.
	Yeah, we can power through it.
	He is also real in our country.
	And so this is the fight that we wage against ourselves and each other, because America is not natural.
	Natural is tribal.
	We're fighting against thousands of years of human behavior and history to create something that no one's ever...
	That's what's exceptional about America, and that's what's...
	Like, this ain't easy.
	It's an incredible thing.
	So this is where he lost me, and this is a two-part clip, really, but this first part of him saying, America is not natural because the natural world is tribal, and therefore what we're doing in America is just a fantastic thing.
	Do you understand what he's talking about?
	Do you understand what this is?
	No, not really.
	I think he's just kind of swinging it, and this is what he comes out with.
	Okay, well, so now, of course, what we need to go into is, you know, what does he really mean?
	And his answer comes up, Or the answer comes up in him answering a different question that was about a question that wasn't asked.
	Donald Trump is a reaction not just to Democrats, to Republicans.
	He's not a Republican.
	He's a repudiation of Republicans.
	But they will reap the benefit of his victory in all of their cynicism and all of their...
	I will guarantee you Republicans are going to come to Jesus now about the power of government.
	One of the things that I think struck me about odd about this election, and maybe I just missed it, was nobody asked Donald Trump what makes America great.
	Did we hear anyone ask that question?
	What makes America great?
	I don't know.
	Somebody may have asked.
	Somebody may not have asked.
	I have no idea.
	I haven't heard it, for sure.
	But now we're going to find out what Jon Stewart thinks makes America great.
	And that was the part that I... He wants to make America great again.
	Yes.
	Nobody said to him, well, what is it that makes America great?
	Yeah, including you, Charlie, news guy.
	Correct.
	What is it you want to do that we're not doing now?
	What are the metrics?
	Because it seems like, from listening to him, the metrics are that it's a competition.
	Now, when I heard this, I'm like, wait a minute.
	I think that may be right, actually, that the metrics for success in America, you know, is measured through as a competition.
	And I'm only basing this on how I grew up, but I think you're the same, John, is, well, you know, you got to work hard.
	America, I think, disadvantages everyone equally.
	But if you can figure it out and you can make it through, you can power through it, you can be just as successful as that guy, the rabbi, the preacher, the professor, the president, the businessman.
	That's a little different than he's thinking, I guess.
	We're number one.
	I think what many would say is what makes us great is America is an anomaly in the world.
	Here we go.
	There are a lot of people, and I think his candidacy has animated that thought, that a multi-ethnic democracy, a multicultural democracy, is impossible.
	And that is what America, by its founding and constitutionally, is.
	And it's becoming more and more.
	Wow!
	Now we understand why he comes up with doesn't qualify.
	He doesn't understand what we are.
	He thinks America is a multicultural democracy.
	Where's that say in the Constitution?
	We're a republic to start off with.
	This is the problem.
	Right, we're a republic, we're not a democracy, so that's a big deal.
	Yeah, that's a big deal.
	Huh.
	And need to pull in the Constitution.
	Yeah, it's a big deal.
	But just listen to what, listen, it's his interpretation of it.
	Multi-ethnic democracy, a multicultural democracy, is impossible.
	And that is what America, by its founding and constitutionally, is.
	And it's becoming more and more.
	By its founding constitutionally, that's what we are.
	Ow.
	Ow.
	Did they print a new version of that thing?
	And what's the deal?
	I don't know.
	I don't know how he comes up with this.
	I don't know.
	I mean, how is that even possible that you think this way?
	That's crazy.
	But this, of course, then doesn't surprise me when you, you know, if you look at the, like, there's a lot of protests still going on.
	They're not as big as they may seem, possibly.
	But have you looked at the signs?
	What are you pointing out?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	The actual signs, the printed signs that I'm seeing are for the Party for Socialism and Liberation.
	Oh yeah, there's a lot of answer stuff too.
	Yeah.
	They have a Wikipedia page, and I know it's all fake news, but they specifically state domestic policy, the PSL's primary objective is to form a revolutionary workers' party based in Marxism and Leninism.
	Hello?
	So is that where Jon Stewart's coming from?
	Is that how he interprets the Constitution?
	Yeah.
	I've always felt Jon Stewart was a socialist that would be of the ilk that would be all in on that stuff.
	Well, Stewart's with his beard, and I don't know if he had the beard on when you saw him.
	He looks a little like Marx.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I saw a lot of signs from Answer, A.N., you know, these guys.
	It's the World's Workers' Party.
	They're out in New York City.
	Ah, yes.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's it.
	The World's Workers' Party.
	That's exactly who it is.
	They're also behind the Party for Social Human Liberation.
	You're right.
	Yeah, it's a front organization.
	They have a lot of sites that are all interconnected.
	They're troublemakers.
	Anyway, I'm just baffled by Jon Stewart calling a multicultural democracy something that our founding fathers put into place in the Constitution.
	That, to me, is really...
	And where's Charlie Rose on this?
	He's just listening.
	I think half the time he just doesn't pay attention.
	Man.
	You know, how poor have we become culturally in the United States of Gitmo Nation?
	How poor are we, really?
	You remember the I Love Lucy?
	When was I Love Lucy?
	Like, late 50s?
	Mid-50s and on.
	Mid-50s.
	Just before the Cuban Missile Crisis, we had inspirational people on television who were in completely stereotypical roles.
	But I tell you, I'm sure a lot of people were like, look at that, man.
	Look at that Cuban immigrant.
	Of course, he was all nutty, like, Lucy!
	Hey, Fred!
	And Ethel!
	And then at the club, he was like, oh!
	But he was an inspiration.
	This guy can make it in America.
	And then Lucille Ball, she ran the freaking studio.
	A woman!
	A woman, she had the pants on.
	Did she play a ditz?
	Yeah, but it was also, there was something, she had a power over Ricky.
	Could you even put that on TV today?
	I bet you there would be protests and advertisers would get shafted and they would have to take it off the air.
	Boycott the advertisers for I Love Lucy.
	I guarantee you that would happen.
	So there's a show on called Just Off the Boat, which highlights, I think they're Vietnamese or some Southeast Asian culture, which I think is one of the funniest shows on TV, and they're trying to get that removed.
	I watched that.
	Tina and I watched that the other night.
	And it's funny, but I really don't get all the jokes because just cultural stuff I just don't understand.
	It's like, okay, and some of it's funny, but they're trying to get it removed for this very reason.
	All right.
	Next, I have a clip.
	This is one of the local news stories.
	Big deal.
	I think it's kind of funny.
	This is the ATM clip.
	If you use the ATM to get cash, wash your hands afterwards.
	That's because you're picking up a lot more than money.
	Researchers took swabs from ATM keypads in New York City.
	They found a variety of bacteria.
	The most abundant was human skin microbes, the same kind you find on household surfaces.
	They also found a lot of microbes that are from foods like fish, chicken, and baked goods.
	The researchers say that suggests that bacteria from a meal can remain on a person's hands and be transferred to the ATM. Oh man, that's disgusting.
	You're all gonna die!
	Oh, man.
	Hey, thanks for that visual.
	I need gloves now when I go to the ATM. I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning.
	And we do have a few people to thank.
	Starting with Jose Flores, Parts Unknown USA, 88, 88, got a birthday coming up.
	These are all going to be 88, which starts right at 88, 88.
	We don't have anything higher for some reason.
	Nice.
	So let me just read them off.
	Jose Flores, Parts Unknown, Craig Thorne in Vancouver, B.C., Dave Villieu in Concord, California, Sir Donald Winkler in Berlin, Deutschland.
	He's got a call out.
	He's got a douchebag call out to all those who went overboard.
	Okay.
	Douchebag!
	If there's time for anyone.
	Unfortunately, there's no specifics, just that they won't ever hear it.
	No, they'll never know it was for them.
	Michael Paquette in Potts Point, Australia.
	Brian Herziger in Omaha, Nebraska.
	Dan Surviving the Media.
	Dan Victor somewhere.
	Who knows where.
	Jeffrey Cadman in Silver Spring.
	Oh, hold on.
	Why is he blue?
	Is he going to be a knight?
	I don't have him on the list.
	I believe it.
	That's weird.
	Shouldn't it be Sir Geoffrey Knight of the Battery Cars?
	Sack of mail.
	Yeah, he says it should get me.
	Oh, very good.
	Is he on the list?
	No, he's not.
	That's why I stopped the show, virtually.
	Now, there's another mistake made here, too.
	I thought this when I was writing this out.
	Mm-hmm.
	I said Silver Springs, and then I went back and looked at the check.
	It's Silver Spring, isn't it?
	Yeah, it's just singular.
	Silver Spring.
	I know.
	I know.
	I used to live near there, so that's how I know.
	I think most people would think Silver Springs.
	Yeah.
	Joseph, okay, that's it.
	That's our little group at 8888 Well-Wishers.
	I hope we have a few more on the next show, which will be on Thursday, Thanksgiving.
	Boob, boob, boob, boob, boob.
	We're going to actually work on Thanksgiving.
	Yes, boobs.
	I had two boobs.
	Joseph Rohn somewhere says, first time donation, please thank my associate Will for hitting me in the mouth last year.
	Thanks for the value.
	And his first donation is boob.
	Very nice.
	Which I thought was...
	First time boob.
	First time boober.
	Gregory Worley, boob.
	Alistair in Tampa, Florida.
	He would like a de-douching.
	I guess he considers himself a douchebag.
	You've been de-douched.
	No problem.
	We can always throw him out.
	And he wants me to do more train whistle.
	And that's our end of our boob collection.
	I mean, he's in the Alistair's in Tampa, by the way.
	Charlie Brown in Mesa, Arizona, 7373.
	Sir Rick in Arlington, Washington, 6933.
	I just want to say 7-3 is in November.
	Julie at 7.
	Victor.
	Dean Roker, 55 double nickels on the dime.
	Pierre Manegra, I'm guessing, in Winnipeg, Manitoba, 55.
	Chris Perry, 51.50 in Silver Spring, Maryland.
	Got that one right.
	Yeah, got it right.
	Steven Drury, 50.50.
	Julianne Ayers, somewhere in the USA, $50.40.
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	That is plural.
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	Matthew Mungin in Baltimore, Maryland.
	Paul Rudkin, Parts Unknown, CN. Could be China.
	I don't think so, maybe.
	Joel Darun.
	Not China.
	It's probably...
	Isn't that...
	CN? It's Czechoslovakia?
	No, that's CZ. What is CN? I don't know.
	Look it up.
	Check the book of knowledge.
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	And finally, last but not least, Benjamin Wilson in Hummelstown, Pennsylvania.
	That's our group of producers for show 879.
	That's right.
	879.
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	Let's begin this last part of the show here with, at least get this out of the way, Zika.
	Oh, my goodness.
	You know, I didn't know you were going to do it right at this moment because we have our little Zika jingle.
	Oh, I forgot about the Zika jingle.
	Yeah.
	Zika, Zika, Zika.
	I think it is Zika, Zika, Zika, Zika.
	Where's the money?
	Is that it?
	Yeah, where's the money?
	Hold on.
	Small heads are coming.
	I'm sorry.
	We're on remote here, so it's always a little tougher to get everything going.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yes, you may.
	Oh, Zika.
	Oh, Zika.
	Zika, Zika, Zika, Zika.
	Little baby.
	With a little bitty head.
	With a baby with a small head.
	They're going to have to make a little head.
	You watch.
	Zika, Zika, Zika, Zika, Zika.
	Yeah.
	Where's the money?
	Okay, that's right.
	It's time for a Zika update.
	We've been tracking it since Zika was Ebola.
	That's how long we've been on top of this story.
	Yep.
	And here's the story.
	Here's the story.
	The World Health Organization says it no longer considers the Zika virus an international health emergency.
	But some health experts worry that lifting the emergency label could slow support for Zika research while the virus is continuing to cause new infections.
	The UN Health Agency is stressing that there is still a need for a long-term plan to tackle Zika.
	Oh, man.
	They got their money.
	But it sounds like the researchers didn't get their money.
	Do you read the list of where the money's going?
	There's very little money for research.
	No, no, no.
	There was several hundred million dollars that was going to the National Institute of Health who dole out the grants for the research.
	I have a feeling they didn't get their money.
	That wouldn't surprise me.
	Everybody listen to that last bit of the report.
	That's great, John.
	I love this.
	Hold on.
	Continuing to cause new infections.
	The U.N. Health Agency is stressing that there is still a need for long-term...
	No, that's not it.
	It was in the beginning, I guess.
	Let me see.
	The World Health Organization says it no longer considers the Zika virus an international health emergency.
	But some health experts worry that lifting the emergency label could slow support for Zika research while the virus is continuing.
	Yeah, I'm telling you.
	I'm telling you.
	Everyone else got paid and NIH is like, well, hold on a second.
	What changed?
	I know what changed.
	I know exactly what changed.
	I'm here in the ground zero of change.
	It's winter.
	Mosquitoes are dead.
	It's the World Health Organization.
	It's winter here.
	It's summer in Brazil where the problem evolved.
	We don't care about Brazil.
	Apparently not.
	You know, it's interesting because with the multiple people we've met, I crack my Zika joke from time to time, which have now changed to Ebola because it wasn't going over too well.
	But again, we're in New York and I caught Zika and they're not laughing here.
	I wonder why.
	They're not laughing.
	They're losing their sense of humor down there in Florida.
	It's for real.
	Well, I'm going to have to look into it.
	I have a feeling, I really do have a feeling that some part of the money went through.
	Honestly, I didn't have time to look it up, but I will, I promise.
	Let's round it out, everybody, because you know...
	Zika, zika, zika, zika, zika, yeah.
	Where's the money?
	$1.9 billion.
	Zika, zika, zika, zika, zika, yeah.
	I love the chat room.
	Small heads are coming.
	Silver says, Tina, are you really sure about this guy?
	Thanks chat room.
	Thanks chat room.
	Oh yes, so nice.
	Let's see what I have.
	Oh yeah, our buddy Nigel Farage.
	was on the telly and he was talking about the Brexit and of course the referendum and we have obviously called for a do-over and there's one other guest.
	This is the woman you'll hear talking.
	She's the one that we played a clip of before who were their own money.
	You know, she protested Brexit.
	What's her name again?
	Jill or something or Mills or I can't remember her name.
	And, you know, they're very quick to point out that this is, you know, that this is only advisory.
	And I think this clip kind of shows that we are headed, you know, in breakneck speed, structurally, structurally towards a do-over of the vote.
	And it's nice because Farage kind of rounds up the reasons why we're suspicious of this as well.
	Don't forget, I've been in the European Parliament for years, so I've seen this happen all over Europe.
	I've seen the Danes forced to vote again, the Irish forced to vote again, the Dutch and French ignored.
	There is a political and wealthy ruling elite who are not prepared to accept the democratic result of referendums.
	Do you want a country where we have no process, where everything we do in life, being a buying house...
	It's called a referendum.
	We've had a referendum.
	If Parliament wanted to, the Referendum Act would not have said it was advisory.
	The politicians lied all the way through because they didn't say that.
	I take the advisory point and I would now wish to see constitutional change to make referendums binding.
	And that then would end this argument and there'd be no need for this case.
	Do you think there now needs to be another general...
	If Brexit is sort of stuck inside the House of Commons and the House of Lords, we haven't even talked about the Lords for a while, do you think there needs to be another general election?
	Yes, I think that if Parliament was to effectively try and mandate the Prime Minister to try and keep us inside the single market, I don't think Theresa May would have any choice.
	But to go to the country for a spring general election, and she could do so on a very clear ticket, win a big majority.
	The House of Lords problem, you know, there are 104 Liberal Democrat live peers who appear to be pledged to delaying the process as much as possible.
	I mean, this could be the end of the House of Lords.
	Oh, that seems a bit extreme, but...
	Well, that's been talked about.
	Oh, yeah?
	That's been talked about all the time.
	Actually, over the last two years, I've noticed these little reports about getting rid of the House of Lords.
	And it's like a bullcrap operation anyway.
	Anyway, they don't really have any influence.
	They don't design or pass laws.
	Right.
	They're just mumblers.
	They're mumblers.
	Back bench mumblers.
	But it seems like everyone's just going to move towards, hey, it's just advisory.
	So we're just going to say, nope, no Brexit.
	And then there would be another election, which I think is also possible.
	Yes, I think so.
	And I think a lot of people get booted out.
	How about Theresa May?
	Well, she looks like, you know, the problem with her is that she's selling the idea that, oh yeah, no, no, no, no, no, we're going to do it, we're going to do it, we're going to do it.
	The people have made themselves clear we're going to do it.
	So she's bluffing, even though I think she's dead set against the Brexit, and she was not for Brexit to begin with.
	But she is now, supposedly.
	I think she's just a bluffer, but I think she can bluff her way back into her position because she keeps saying that she wants to initiate the Brexit.
	I think she's doing that on purpose.
	I think the whole thing is a giant...
	Well, we both agreed on this a while ago.
	It's a scam.
	Yeah, it's a huge scam.
	And the do-over was a done deal.
	The do-over is almost inevitable, yeah.
	Yeah, because nobody wants any of this stuff to go on.
	This is the one world government is throwing its weight around.
	In the meantime, it's...
	Man, stop squeezing that animal's neck.
	In the meantime, there's some nefarious stuff going on.
	We've certainly looked at this for the past few months about the Snoopers Charter.
	This is now the new normal for the United Kingdom of Gitmo Nation over there, Gitmo Nation East.
	This is what you're dealing with.
	You thought it was bad here?
	Mm-hmm.
	Government's investigatory powers bill, the so-called Snoopers Charter, which sets out what security services can find out about people's internet activity, will become law within weeks.
	Yesterday, it passed through the House of Lords, meaning it just needs a royal assent before it comes into force.
	Well, let's have a look at some of the powers it sets out.
	They will be able to ask internet providers to help them hack into computers and phones, but only after getting a warrant first.
	Internet companies will also have to keep your search metadata for a year and hand it on to authorities on request.
	Again, a warrant will have to be issued first.
	And those warrants have to be signed by the Home Secretary and an independent judicial commissioner, the double log.
	Well, Jim Killock is executive director at Open Rights Group, which is opposed to the new legislation.
	What's wrong with this bill?
	Well, let's just make one correction on the bit you just did.
	You mentioned about warrants, the very big warrants for kind of bulk interception and for getting the content of information about terrorists and so on.
	That has this double lock, the Home Secretary and Judge, the Judge having weaker powers in that relationship.
	But the sort of general data about your phone records and so on...
	That doesn't get any of this warrantry.
	It's just simply the police saying to other police officers, yes, you may have this information, and then they go to the companies and get it.
	But, in fact, now they will go through a machine which delivers it, so the companies won't even interact.
	The company's databases will simply be queried by police officers, and the results will go to the police.
	And that's pretty shocking.
	I mean, it basically means no independent authorisation whatsoever.
	Right.
	But in terms of what they can glean from that information, I mean, the Prime Minister has said, well, it's just the modern-day equivalent of an itemised phone bill.
	They might be able to see that you've been looking at Facebook, for example, but they can't see the content of the chat that you might have been having.
	And Theresa May says privacy is hardwired into this bill.
	Yeah, I think that's a sort of nonsense representation.
	And you think what it means to have your mobile phone location data, for instance, that tells you where somebody is all of the time.
	Your call records, the people you communicate with online, that tells you about their innermost thoughts.
	It's like a reading list.
	So what this does is it tells you who knows who, where they meet, and roughly speaking, what they think.
	And to say that that is okay, that that's not an intrusion into people's privacy, and it's not that important, and police should just be able to search that and get the results, I think that's really misrepresenting what's going on here.
	I can't see what's wrong with all that.
	This seems perfectly normal to me.
	To me, it still sounds like...
	I don't know...
	I saw 20 years ago, I was in England, I used to write for PC Magazine UK, and they had a big meeting, and this was 20 years ago.
	And we had a big meeting in some castle out in the middle of nowhere.
	When there was money abound.
	When there was money.
	Tons of money, man.
	Oh, good times, good times.
	We had all these presentations.
	It was like an editor's day.
	And we had all these presentations.
	And we had a presentation by Interpol.
	Cool.
	And Interpol showed us a system that allowed them to track who people were calling.
	It was a phone tracking system, very similar to what we keep hearing about.
	In fact, very similar to what this guy's talking about.
	And they showed us a ring, like a circle of people who was calling who with arrows and everything pointing to each other.
	And then they could say they could find a leader of a gang based on the way.
	Just for my edification, was this, did they have like a threat map of this, like pew pew, and you saw things shooting back and forth, and the rings were all high, or was it a drawing, like a PowerPoint, or like an overlay?
	No, it was actually a raster graphics screenshot.
	Nice.
	And he had that raster graphics look.
	Yeah.
	And it was a circle that showed us and said, we can tell that this guy is the leader of this mob and this guy here is his right-hand man and here's how we can do that because this guy's called him and he calls him.
	And they had this thing and this is like 20 years ago.
	And so every time somebody brings the same story up about this as some new idea, this has been going on for a long time.
	I think people are being misled.
	This is fake news.
	Ah, there you go.
	That's why it's fake news.
	And now back to real news.
	Well, you know, Chris Hansen, remember the guy who used to do Catch a Predator?
	Yeah.
	So I'm watching one of the obscure stations that has like the worst kind of syndicated shows.
	And apparently over the last couple years, Chris Hansen has been doing a show called Crime Watch or something like that.
	And it's just, it's It's because they showed a piece of it.
	It's catch a predator.
	They get some poor dumb schmuck that comes into somebody's house and he comes out of a closet and says, what are you doing here?
	What are you doing here?
	With that 15-year-old girl.
	Yeah, what are you doing here with that 15-year-old girl?
	So meanwhile, but the guy has aged a million years.
	I still don't understand why we don't have electrocutions on TV. It's just as uncomfortable to watch.
	I think it would be great.
	This is just a promo.
	Because the guy has...
	Become full of himself, and he's doing a Tom Brokaw type of...
	Delivery?
	Delivery.
	It's exactly Tom Brokaw's delivery.
	And then he kind of misses...
	Tom Brokaw, yes.
	And leads a couple of letters on all his things he sells.
	Are you ready?
	And so he...
	But it's the way he ends this.
	This little ditty.
	You're going to just die because he's a puker, too.
	Oh, puker.
	Oh, fabulous.
	I've busted hundreds of people throughout the years, and one thing remains constant.
	These guys think of new and different ways to creep me out.
	Case in point, Jeff Sokol.
	Unfortunately for him, this pizza-chomping suspect is about to get a bad case of indigestion, courtesy of yours truly.
	Try that line on gay bar.
	I have it on ISO if you want to hear that.
	Yeah, no, it's totally, this is great.
	Yours truly.
	I kind of like the whole last little riff there, because I like the whole...
	This is great.
	Indigestion, courtesy of yours truly.
	You're going to get some indigestion, courtesy of yours truly.
	Try that line in a gay bar, see how that works out for you.
	Yes.
	I'm sorry, I had to set myself up again for the punchline.
	Yeah, a gay bar, perfect.
	That's a good one.
	Yeah, I do want to talk briefly about two things that I believe are related, but there's really not, well, there's not a lot, there's zero coverage of it.
	So we have Pizzagate, which I'm sure you've heard of, and we have just WikiLeaks in general possibly being compromised.
	Yeah, I'm glad you got this because I just couldn't stop laughing when I heard this whole story.
	Well, which one?
	The pizza game?
	Well, the WikiLeaks being compromised.
	I mean, they're doing this.
	Maybe it is.
	Maybe it's always been.
	But they just keep bringing this stuff up to, like, making excuses for Hillary's loss.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	I'm sorry.
	Different type of compromise.
	Different type of compromise.
	I don't know if you really read all of this.
	Okay, well, tell me about it.
	Well, since the Internet outage, and then when we had those weird hashes that WikiLeaks tweeted out...
	Of course, they prove authenticity of documents.
	So now new documents are being released on WikiLeaks, but they don't match the hashes that came out before that Internet outage.
	And even though you say, yeah, they've seen him at the window, Julian Assange really seems to be MIA.
	He appears to not be around.
	And he's dead?
	Possibly.
	Abducted, dead, something.
	Yeah.
	You were a bit dismissive of it on the last show, and I believed you.
	I'm like, okay.
	But a lot of people...
	That possibly could relate to this Pizzagate thing in that it would be bogative, because I don't think this Pizzagate thing is anything at all.
	All I'm seeing is a lot of 4chan stuff, and I'm sorry, it does nothing for me.
	I've seen 4chan screenshots, and as far as I know, pretty much none of it has come true.
	Okay.
	But this Pizzagate is, you know, it's about the pizza place and the pizza party and the Podesta emails and child pedophilia and child pornography.
	All code words for pedophilia, whatever.
	Yeah, lots of code words.
	Something means boy, something means girl.
	Right.
	And, you know, and then there's this, well, something was in the, you know, was it, is it pictography?
	Was it when you hide data in a picture?
	Steganography.
	Steganography, thank you.
	So now we have all...
	We found this in steganography, and it's a picture of these two young Korean girls, which actually one of them I recognize immediately is Lisa Ling.
	You know, from...
	Was it CNN or whatever?
	I mean, there's a lot of stuff.
	People are very convinced of something going on.
	And I'm the first guy.
	I've always been on this kind of stuff.
	Always.
	Always.
	And I've gotten in big trouble for it.
	Well, if you're not convinced, then I'm not convinced.
	Because you'll go...
	Yeah, you're more likely to be convinced.
	Yes, I do a lot of the research.
	I'm just not really seeing it.
	So, of course, some of the assumptions are that because some of this may have come out through WikiLeaks, That's why Julian Assange is gone.
	But if I can't believe in the Pizzagate, I want to.
	Believe me.
	Believe me.
	Well, you can believe that Julian Assange is gone, but you can't believe in the other thing.
	It's the disconnect.
	Why do you think Julian Assange is gone?
	Well, I do believe in the hashes.
	I do believe that.
	To me, I see no discrepancy in that story.
	And we have not seen him.
	And so the compromise part, that part, I'm not sure.
	It just seems like maybe Julian Assange has always been all of WikiLeaks.
	And who knows if they have a team?
	I don't know.
	Well, we had Sarah, the hot girl who moved to Berlin.
	We got her, but that was about it.
	The last show, we had a good clip of the fact that Sweden is questioning him for hours on end at the embassy.
	Currently.
	So that's a bullcrap story, and Sweden's not there in the first place, even though his lawyer says they are.
	He wouldn't be gone.
	He's being grilled.
	I've seen a lot of deconstruction of the questioning, and everything gets polluted with, oh, look, we now have Photoshop for voice.
	We've had that a long time.
	This is nothing new.
	So, I'm just not convinced.
	Assange...
	No, you are convinced.
	You're convinced he's dead.
	Well, I'm convinced there's something going on and things are very wrong.
	I'm not convinced he's dead.
	But something is wrong.
	I'm convinced he's being grilled by the Swedish and he's going to be released.
	Huh.
	Okay.
	Well...
	In that case, then the one thing I think I've learned out of this is that he is all of WikiLeaks.
	Whoever is running the tweeters and all that stuff right now, maybe they don't even know how to use the hashes.
	Maybe it's all legit stuff.
	They just made copies or done something stupid, and the hashes don't match up anymore.
	And that's because he's being questioned by the Swedes.
	That's also possible.
	And you know what?
	Gotta tell you, sounds pretty damn plausible to me.
	And I am the crackpot.
	Cuckoo-cuchoo.
	Yeah, you are the crackpot.
	So, there you go.
	So, talking about crackpot.
	Uh-oh.
	Now, again, I'm bitching about PBS going over the deep end, being pushed around by the underwriter, something that doesn't happen to this show.
	And so, I'm watching this thing.
	This is another PBS clip.
	And something caught my attention.
	This is the PBS clip on climate change.
	You know, there's a big thing going on in Marrakesh.
	Democracy Now!
	Amy is down there reporting live from Marrakesh.
	What's the big thing in Marrakesh?
	What's going on?
	Oh, this is a COP22. Oh, COP23 then.
	Keep in track.
	This is how important it is to you.
	This is COP23, I guess.
	Not 22.
	I think it's 22.
	Yeah, it could be 23.
	I think it's 22.
	Okay.
	Whatever.
	It's one of them.
	And they're down there having meetings and everyone's making a fuss.
	That's what they get paid to do, make a fuss.
	So we go to the PBS NewsHour and this struck me because all these climate change guys are going on and on about, ah, it's all resolved.
	Forget the fact that 30,000 scientists signed a petition saying this could be bogus.
	We'd like to talk about it.
	You don't even give us space.
	So here we are with the news hour.
	I'm going to ask you a question.
	I want you to just play this clip and then tell me...
	I'm going to ask Adam, tell me what's wrong with this picture.
	...to withdraw from the Paris Accords, but there are no enforcement mechanisms, so the new Trump administration could simply ignore the U.S.' commitments.
	In Morocco yesterday, Secretary of State John Kerry warned against taking that step.
	He said climate change should not be a partisan issue.
	No one...
	It has a right to make decisions that affect billions of people based on solely ideology.
	At the same time, 365 American companies have written to the president-elect, imploring him to uphold the Paris Accords and warning, quote, failure to build a low-carbon economy puts American prosperity at risk.
	So what would environmental policy actually look like under a Trump administration?
	David Roberts covers this for Vox.
	He's a writer and journalist who has long reported on the need for tackling climate change.
	He joins me now from Portland.
	David Roberts, let's start off talking about the man who is going to help the Trump administration shape energy policy.
	Who is Myron E. Bell and what does he believe?
	Myron Bell is the director of the climate change program at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, which is a think tank in Washington, D.C. His belief is that climate change is a hoax or possibly no big deal, happening in no big deal, or possibly happening in good for us, depending on which day you ask him.
	Okay.
	Ask Adam.
	Ask Adam.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Ask Adam.
	Let me think.
	Discrepancy.
	Discrepancy.
	Well, I would say number one, one off the bat.
	Labeling anyone from Vox as a journalist is a huge discrepancy.
	That is definitely on the list.
	It's not the main one, but I felt the same way.
	I would say...
	I would say the second one is, nice description about this guy who I hadn't heard of.
	I guess I hadn't heard of the story.
	I never heard of him either.
	Yeah, I heard a similar story.
	But I'd like to know who the 63 companies were and what kind of business they're in.
	I would like to know that too.
	Everything you said is true.
	But what got my attention and what I'm going to point out here is that the PBS NewsHour has a formula.
	When they discuss stuff, they have two people.
	Always two people.
	Sometimes, but rarely three.
	But mostly two.
	They did that throughout this particular show.
	They'd have something about Syria.
	There'd be two people.
	They'd have something about Trump's election.
	They'd have two people.
	Two people, two people, two people.
	In fact, they had one of them, which I do have a clip of.
	I can play this whenever.
	There's always two people.
	When they do climate stuff, it's always one person.
	Where's the other guy?
	Where's the guy who says, well, you know, this could be bull crap.
	Wow, wow, wow, wow.
	I'm giving you some points.
	Man, we gotta look at this formula.
	Yeah.
	That's fantastic.
	Always just one guy.
	There's always a climate change that's gonna kill us all.
	Well, we know that, but wow, that, duh.
	Hmm.
	Didn't they change some kind of rules?
	I know the BBC was trying to do this.
	Maybe they did come up with this rule that you no longer needed to have climate deniers on in a climate story.
	Yeah, that's where everyone's picked up on that.
	That was hounded, got hounded by some public relations company about this.
	No, you can't have a climate denier, Ron, because it's all in.
	The science is in.
	97% of everybody agrees.
	You know, I tell you, John, the news hour has gone to shit since Gwen Ifill died.
	Actually, it's funny because maybe it's true.
	I'm telling you.
	It seems as if.
	And they keep doing these lamentations for her.
	She died, I think, on a Monday, and then they did a whole show about Gwen.
	A whole show, a complete show.
	So why on Friday do they do a reprise?
	On Friday, at the end of the news, they all went into a reprise.
	Everybody...
	Well, it's the end of the week.
	It's like, you know, it's wrapping up the week, and we're going to the weekend.
	It's time to reflect.
	Reflect on our loss.
	Come on.
	You feel it.
	I did it all through the week.
	Well, and then the final one for the end of the week.
	I've never seen anything quite like it.
	I mean, they're really going to miss her, I guess.
	But yeah, it's gone to crap since she left.
	Hey, if I die before you, would you please do it?
	No, the show will go to crap.
	Well, you'll do a week of tributes.
	I'll definitely do a week of tributes.
	I'll bring all your friends on.
	Short show.
	The show will be reduced to 10 minutes.
	Oh, man.
	Hey, got some news up from Mimi's neck of the woods and something Mimi may be interested in up there in Washington's, right?
	Washington State?
	Yeah.
	Pot sales are closing in on hard liquor sales.
	According to the Olympian, in the second quarter of this year, marijuana sales amounted to nearly $212 million.
	That's just $37 million less than spirit sales, which amounted to almost $249 million.
	This is a change from the quarter before, when the sales gap was $54.8 million.
	Wow, you guys are getting hammered up there.
	Oh yeah, everyone's stoned.
	In fact, now that you're on that topic, let's listen to what O'Reilly has to say about this, and to the white punks on dope, Fox.
	Oh man, that can be no good.
	I want to advocate say, this is just the latest in a string of victories for their cause.
	The market's been there, but it's time for it to be legit, and it's time for, we're very regulated, and it's time for that to be standard for this product.
	But some officials disagree, citing concerns about a possible rise in auto accidents and deeper drug addiction among young people.
	They say the movement needs to take a step back and find ways to make marijuana available more safely.
	Okay.
	So California's the big one.
	Yep.
	You know, they had quasi-legalized marijuana in California.
	They had a look-the-other-way policy.
	You know, they had that big medical marijuana ruse.
	Yes.
	Where, you know, you got...
	It's good for a cold.
	It's good for a bum toe.
	You can take it for pretty much...
	If you haven't been out to California, I'd love this.
	They have a doctor named Dr.
	Lenny.
	He's on the premise.
	You hand Lenny...
	I know Dr.
	Lenny.
	Yeah, you hand Lenny 200 in cash.
	Lenny doesn't want any trace.
	Lenny writes you a prescription.
	And then you just go the next place over, the next room over, and they sell it to you.
	That was the medical marijuana ruse in California.
	And there were 50,000 Lennys.
	They were on every corner.
	This is not good for business for Lenny.
	California, Massachusetts, Nevada.
	All past measures now.
	You've got a 60% approval rate of legalizing marijuana in the country, according to Gallup.
	So, you know, this is the way...
	Well, Nevada, that's good.
	So if you want to gamble, you really want to be high when you do that.
	Especially when you're playing blackjack.
	What?
	Oh, you lose!
	It slows you down.
	Right.
	The thing that I saw of all the studies, and there's no doubt that kids use it more, no doubt there's more traffic accidents, but the minority community, poor minorities in this country use legalized marijuana far more than anyone else, and that's going to hurt those folks.
	Last word.
	What a dick.
	He's a total dick.
	We've traced his attitude about pot for, I don't know, years.
	Where is that from?
	And he comes out with bull crap.
	This is fake news.
	He says there's more traffic accidents for sure?
	No, that's not for sure at all.
	No, there's no evidence of this.
	No, that's totally bull.
	And the evidence that the minorities are going to be stoned more than whites?
	Where's the evidence of that?
	I'd say that's pretty damn racist.
	Yeah, it was very racist.
	No, the guy's full of crap.
	This is fake news.
	Yeah.
	I think I'll be on this little fake news thing.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, we need a jingle.
	We need jingles.
	Warning.
	Warning.
	We need jingles for fake news.
	Yes, we do.
	We do.
	And no one made me a jingle for my suck it up buttercup.
	That was disappointing.
	Suck it up buttercup.
	Why don't you suck it up buttercup, baby?
	No one did a jingle for me.
	That's okay.
	But we do need something for fake news.
	Yes, fake news.
	Fake news!
	That's exactly what it should sound like.
	Yes.
	Fake news.
	Yeah.
	You know, regarding this particular topic, and there are three things you can take away from the No Agenda show.
	You're not radical if you think about just doing the following three things.
	One, if stuff bothers you, then create a browser plug-in so you don't see it.
	Have a friend create it, a dude named Ben.
	It really will work.
	It'll help you.
	Two, you can use encryption on your email.
	Spend 20 minutes learning how to do it.
	Spend 20 minutes.
	Really, you can do it.
	And three, and this is probably the most important, but please, we've got to keep this amongst a No Agenda family.
	You can grow your own pot.
	It's a weed.
	It's very easy to do.
	Try it sometime.
	And then, I don't know, maybe grow some tomatoes or something else you'd like to eat.
	It's not that hard.
	People are...
	Their brains are fried, John.
	Don't think about this stuff anymore.
	You can grow it yourself!
	I mean, I'm a big talker, but...
	But you know what I'm saying.
	Alright.
	I had neighbors who grew it.
	Yeah?
	Did you ever sample it?
	No, you stopped smoking a long time.
	You didn't sample your neighbors.
	It's not good.
	I don't like it.
	I mean, it's just one of those things at some point, you know, you have a choice between a good glass of cognac or a couple of hits of a joint, and the cognac is more satisfying.
	Well, but now you're putting choices in it.
	I can have all kinds of things that are more entertaining than a couple of hits off a joint.
	No, I know, but in terms of an intoxicant.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, yeah.
	Intoxicant.
	Nice.
	Yes, intoxicants.
	And the only thing I have for today to round this out is that, you know, we saw the...
	Where did they...
	Was it the rupee where they took away the bills?
	Yes.
	Yeah, India.
	India, yeah.
	In some parts of India.
	Okay, so less than a week after that happens, what do we have now?
	We have Australia.
	Citibank announced it's going cashless at some of its Australian bank branches.
	Yesterday, Swiss giant UBS called for the elimination of the Australian $150 bills because it would be, quote, good for the economy and good for the banks, unquote.
	Good for the economy!
	I can see how it's good for the banks.
	I can totally see that.
	Australia.
	No, sir.
	Your account is zeroed out.
	You're zeroed out.
	That's a great term, by the way.
	You must have taken the money because there's no money in your account.
	I didn't see any money.
	Yeah, you've been zeroed out.
	Wow.
	Well, Tina and I are going to have to plan our...
	Well, the next big trip's going to have to be in Australia.
	We're going to spend two weeks there.
	We have to go.
	They need help down there.
	They need help.
	Yeah, well, I don't know how much help we're going to be able to provide.
	All right, you got anything?
	The last thing I'm going to...
	Did you see or have any indication of the Shelley Duvall fiasco on the Dr.
	Phil show?
	No, I didn't see it.
	You sent me the link and we were in transit and I just didn't get to it.
	So I saw the photo still of her and she looks really, really sad.
	Well, yeah, she does look sad, but she's also old.
	She's almost 70.
	But you don't have to look like that when you're 70.
	No, you don't.
	Yes, this is true.
	She looks pretty beat up, but it was sick.
	It was sadistic.
	He interviewed her for an hour, and I believe she has functional schizophrenia.
	She just kind of blathers her.
	Who interviewed her?
	Dr.
	Phil, the douchebag.
	What was the point of this?
	There was no point.
	At the end of the show, he says, well, we tried to get her help, but her friends are going to have to help her.
	She's back home, and bye.
	That was it.
	Oh, man.
	It was pathetic.
	But if you want to hear a little bit of it, I have a clip that goes on, but you can listen to it until you're sick of it.
	This is an abuse of, yet again, abusive fellow human beings for ratings.
	This is an abusive situation the way I see it.
	Are you by yourself a lot?
	No.
	Too much.
	So when these people invited me out, I thought, well, that's nice.
	You know what?
	I'm going.
	Despite everybody else going, let me call the FBI first and check them out.
	It's like, do you know how long I live life without the FBI checking everything out first?
	One, two, four, four, five.
	One, two, four, four, five.
	Tell me about that.
	My home address.
	A.45 is a type of pistol.
	Right.
	.45 caliber.
	Yes.
	It's a.06.
	It's a shotgun, a sawed-off shotgun.
	Have you seen the Dr.
	Phil show before?
	Well, you're a doctor.
	Right.
	Have you seen the Dr.
	Phil show before?
	Uh, yes.
	You've watched it?
	Yeah.
	It was, uh, where was it on?
	I can't, John.
	I can't.
	You're bumming me out.
	Yeah.
	Give me something happy.
	Give me something happy.
	Please.
	Something different.
	This can't be the last clip of the show.
	No, it can't be.
	I'm sorry.
	No.
	Oh, don't worry.
	Don't worry.
	Don't worry.
	I got a couple good ones.
	I mean, I can just do one last, just one quick.
	Well, no, I got a happy one.
	Okay.
	All right.
	The Stanford band was prevented from playing at the Cal big game, where Stanford won, I think, for the seventh or eighth year in a row because the University of California refuses to fire the crappy coach they have, but that's beside the point.
	But I just thought this little piece about the Stanford band, and you have to remember the Stanford band since, I think, the 40s, is a lewd but talented band.
	I did not know this.
	The Stanford band...
	When I was at Cal, and this is, I don't know, a long time ago, the Stanford band was lewd back then.
	They used to come out with these sousaphones that had like marijuana leaves painted in them.
	Nice!
	Oh, it sounds like a band for me.
	They'd run out into the thing and then they'd make a formation.
	They'd run around like maniacs and make a formation.
	They didn't do anything marching or anything.
	And they would...
	I remember them running around and then...
	Lining up and then facing the University of California student section and yelling, fuck you, at the top of the lungs.
	Excellent.
	So that's the Stanford band.
	So here's a little bit on the Stanford band with some of the more recent incidents.
	Excellent.
	And I love me a good drum cadence, by the way, so I could become a fan.
	Student section is wild during the games.
	But it may not be as wild at this year's big game without the Stanford band.
	The band has actually been banned since May 2015 for what the university called violations from complaints by band members for sexually explicit and offensive acts, hazing, as well as violations of alcohol and controlled substance.
	Just hours ago, the university told NBC Bay Area, despite the band being lifted for two recent bowl games, as of today, the band still had not made enough progress in addressing the concerns.
	I mean, I'm a little bummed that they won't be there because it's a big part of the school and a big part of spirit.
	At its band's shack headquarters, the band referred us to an online statement saying it understands the concerns and, in essence, is addressing them.
	The band also turned over its transportation money so five busloads of students can ride to the big game free.
	Ben has told us that they're still very supportive of the team and they're going to do everything they can during this week, during Bay Game Week, to support the team, support the students, and get everyone pumped up.
	Now, the university did tell us today that the student affairs staff is working with band leaders and the band's progress will be reviewed before the holiday bowl game season.
	Live at Stanford, Robert Honda, NBC Bay Area News.
	Robert, thank you.
	So suspensions, as you might know, are nothing new for the Stanford band.
	You might recall back in 1986, the band drew a two-game suspension for allegedly urinating.
	On the field during a halftime show.
	Five years later, Notre Dame University banned the Stanford band indefinitely after a band member dressed as a nun and used a crucifix as a baton.
	And in 2004, another suspension after the band's dancers wore wedding veils in a parody of polygamy at Brigham Young University.
	I love those guys.
	There's a couple of gals in there, too, in the band.
	Yeah, it's a wild and crazy bunch.
	I've always admired them.
	That's cool.
	Here's a clip from one of the girls in the band.
	Oh, and this one time, at band camp, I stuck a flute in my pussy.
	Hey-o.
	Yeah.
	It's been a while.
	It's been a while.
	That's the way that clip came from.
	It's been a while since we played that one.
	All right.
	Thanks, everybody, on the stream for hanging in there through some of the...
	Yes, I'll use the word glitches.
	And so we're not going to see the American Music Awards tonight.
	We're going out to dinner.
	But there will be some Illuminati shit in there, guaranteed.
	Probably.
	I'll let you know all about it.
	Exactly.
	All right.
	Jean-Claude, merci beaucoup.
	Another show coming up on Thursday.
	Remember us at thevorak.org slash NA. Until then, I will say, man with athletic finger, make broad jump.
	Good morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where Plato say, woman who chopped cocaine with foot toes the line.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	And we will be back on Thursday with another episode right here on No Agenda.
	Until then, adios mofos.
	Pack your bags and...
	It's time for Vacate Girl!
	John Oliver, fuck you.
	They're gonna make it happen.
	I got your number.
	Yeah, it's a propaganda outlet.
	And it's just snarky.
	What is a British guy doing criticizing the American systems?
	Yeah.
	Donald Trump.
	Here we go.
	America's wealthiest hemorrhoid.
	And second, he's fucking 70.
	Failed British comic.
	Also, and I'm still off with no sight of this, he has really stupid hair.
	But, I'm an idiot.
	Yes, the shackles are off, which is actually an acrobatical, as reported by both Frankenstein's monster and a John Oliver at Just Kidding, don't go fuck yourself.
	His expression is that of someone who just realised, oh my God, I've been shot.
	The John Oliver effect.
	A Peabody Award.
	A Peabody Award.
	I don't care if you fuck your horse, but you are not getting a medal for the foreplay.
	A medal for a ride, lead on the UK Independence Party and a full-time cover model for Punching Your Face magazine.
	And Boris Johnson, a shaved orangutan with Owen Wilson's hair.
	I'm an idiot.
	But a pig fucker calls for a vote, a bus had some bullshit written on it, and then two idiots named Nigel and Boris quoted President Bill Pullman.
	But just listen to the words, listen to what he says...
	And we're company hurtling toward outer space, where there is a must-down light or darkness.
	Just an endless void in which death comes as sweet, sweet relief.
	John Oliver at JustKidding.com.
	I got your number.
	John Oliver, fuck you.
	It's a propaganda outlet.
	It's just snarky.
	John Oliver, failed British comic.
	I am calling it jihad on John Oliver.
	True facts.
	It didn't really make a difference in the election, but as he'd hoped, but it did make a difference in the riots.
	It didn't make a difference in the riots.
	Yours truly.
	Do what we need to do.
	Stuff like the Electoral College, and we're talking about...
	Get up, out of the chair, go out into the...
	Do what we need to do.
	Stuff like the Electoral College, and we're talking about, you know, rules.
	So Facebook is just one now.
	Is just one.
	Right.
	Should be.
	I think that he used in this.
	In this candy.
	Which I think that he used in this candidacy.
	Go back to the darkness.
	Now I know.
	I know.
	I know.
	They just can't go back to the darkness.
	That qualifies somebody for being.
	You know.
	You know.
	It should just.
	People who know.
	They just can't go back to the darkness.
	That qualifies.
	You know.
	It should just.
	I don't know.
	You should break for a million.
	I know.
	Back to the.
	I know, I know.
	Now I know, I know, I know.
	We have to go back to the darkness.
	Now I know.
	We have to go back to the darkness.
	Now I know, I know, I know.
	We have to go back to the darkness.
	Now it's like the electoral college.
	We're at the light.
	We're at the light.
	We don't, we need a million women plus one.
	Right.
	Right.
	Go back to the darkness.
	My mind should be back to the darkness.
	No, I should be...
	But it's the darkness.
	No, I know.
	You know, that should just...
	We can build artificial intelligence to fight terrorism, but we also need to make sure that we protect people's privacy.
	Why don't you suck it up now?
	We turn against each other based on divisions of race, religion.
	If we fall for, if we fall.
	Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
	Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
	Okie dole.
	Okie dole.
	Yeah.
	Okie dole.
	Just because it sounds funny or...
	The tweets are, sir, sir.
	The tweets are, sir.
	The tweets are, sir.
	Yes!
	Amen.
	Fist bump.
	Adios, mofo.
	The best podcast in the universe.

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