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880: Promise to Prosecute

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	Boom, that's off the table.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	And Thursday, November 24th, 2016, this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 880.
	This is No Agenda.
	Celebrating traffic and weather together on the 8th!
	And broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet here in FEMA Region 6 in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where Plato's a woman who plays with man's pickle makes love with relish.
	I'm John C. Devorak.
	It's crack, bomb, and buzzkill!
	In the morning!
	They just keep getting better, man.
	I really have to go back and I have to apologize.
	I was kind of against the whole Play-Doh say.
	Play-Doh, yes.
	Play-Doh.
	Play-Doh.
	Yeah, he's got it going on, our Play-Doh.
	That guy's got chops.
	He should do something with that.
	Oh, yeah.
	So back from the little jaunt in Florida.
	Yes, you went to Florida to celebrate Thanksgiving in advance, I guess.
	No, it was time.
	It was time for me to...
	Well, Tina lived there, the keeper, for, I don't know, 16 years or so.
	She has friends and stuff, and I went and visited all the friends.
	It was nice.
	So you saw everybody's friends?
	I saw her friends, yes.
	And he probably brought it up to you when we saw Andrew Horowitz and his lovely wife Jill.
	Yes, who's apparently sick as a dog.
	He was already kind of sick, but I guess he took us out of his boat.
	We had a nice dinner.
	Yeah, you ran him into the ground.
	Well, I heard the show and he sounded really, really hoarse.
	Yes, he's not like you.
	You can be sick as a dog.
	I'll just inform people out there because I've witnessed this.
	Sick as a dog, you sound fine.
	Well, I would have to suggest to him that maybe the hookah was not a great idea.
	What?
	Yeah, I know.
	We're back.
	He says, so we come back.
	He's got his boat right behind the house.
	Oh, by the way, the tiki hut that I've heard him talk about?
	This is not a tiki hut.
	It's a friggin' annex.
	Is it that big?
	It's huge!
	I always thought it was just a little hut.
	That's exactly what I thought.
	I guess he had some Seminoles come by and bless it, so then it's legal.
	It's an annex.
	It's like the Benghazi annex, the thing is so big.
	And then he breaks out the hookah.
	Excellent.
	And he has already a lung thing going on.
	Exactly.
	This is not...
	Okay, well, you know, if he'd spent more time in California, he'd know these things.
	Yeah.
	But we had a great time.
	That was fun.
	But also, Tina's friends were fantastic.
	It was great.
	I passed all the tests.
	I'm good to go.
	Oh, you did?
	Yeah.
	Did they tattoo something on your face so they know?
	No, they all just have their little clipboard.
	Checkmark.
	Checkmark.
	Tonight they discuss it on the big Thursday night conference call when all women talk about how they're going to bring man down.
	You know, that one.
	Yeah, well, let's...
	You need to get a line tapped into that thing.
	Yeah.
	Okay, well, lots of places to start.
	I have some good European news today as well.
	But what is abundantly clear for those in the United States of Gitmo Nation and far beyond...
	Is the media in particular, but people who just hate President-elect Trump are going to not let up with this racism thing.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh my goodness.
	It has been, I mean, it's just atrocious.
	Well, it is pretty bad.
	I haven't noticed targeting racism so much as this conflict of interest issues that don't exist.
	See, that's much less for at least the media that's been thrown in my face.
	I'm seeing the racism there.
	I'm still on the NBC side of the thing, so I'm studying them the most.
	And I've got...
	Some breakdowns of the bull crap, the way they're presenting it.
	Okay, you want to do that first?
	No, you go with the racist thing, and then I'll move on to it.
	How come I have to do the racist thing?
	That's racist!
	Go racism!
	He said, go racism!
	Go racism first, then we'll move.
	Alright.
	Southern Poverty Law Center.
	Southern Poverty Law Center.
	Yeah, Southern Poverty Law Center.
	These guys are really bad.
	They are very bad.
	They are hugely funded.
	This is a non-profit with, last time I looked, $250 million?
	Yeah, lots of money.
	Yeah, and their job is to identify hate and racism and put it on a map.
	And then go on TV and explain it.
	Here's Southern Poverty Law Center's editor, Ryan Lentz, who's not often.
	It's usually the other guy, the CEO, who does these things.
	I guess they're splitting it up.
	They're so busy.
	Yeah, they got so much to do.
	Well, they're just identifying all the racism.
	All of the racism.
	And I'd like to make one more point.
	So, yesterday, Donald Trump released his 100-day plan on YouTube.
	And he announced some very thorough, some very specific things that he was going to be doing by executive action.
	And he referenced a phrase in the midst of this speech.
	He said that he's going to drain the swamp.
	Drain the swamp was a meme, a Twitter hashtag that grew, exploded really, after Donald Trump came forward with allegations that it was a rigged election.
	And it was spread specifically, or among the people that were spreading the drain the swamp hashtag, were avowed racists, white supremacists who exist on Twitter to harass.
	I like that.
	I like that.
	I would like to be a white supremacist who exists on Twitter.
	Hi, my name's Adam.
	I'm a white supremacist.
	I exist on Twitter.
	Racists.
	White supremacists who exist on Twitter to harass and demean various ethnic groups.
	So we have a little bit of a two-sided message here.
	Yeah, he's saying stop it, but he's also giving a wink, wink, nod, nod to the very people he's asking to step away from their violence.
	So he's now drained the swamp as racist, John.
	Now that you would say, I unfortunately didn't pick this up, so I didn't make a couple of clips that would fit right into this, including the thing with one of the basketball coaches, or actually one of the, I guess he's a general manager, Phil Jackson, a very famous guy, who used the word posse in discussing, somebody mentioned posse, Oh, racist.
	LeBron James.
	Well, I'm going to give you the rundown of the clip I would have made if I had known we were going to go in this direction.
	So O'Reilly had Stephen A. Smith, one of these pundits or sports pundit, on talking about this because O'Reilly was befuddled by how the word, using the word posse in describing LeBron James' entourage or business, no business.
	It was racist, and it was the most convoluted explanation.
	It was that if O'Reilly had said posse, it's not racist.
	Hell yeah.
	But because Jackson works with black players, and he has been doing so for 20 years, he should know better.
	Thus, it's racist.
	Ah.
	And I was just, it was an eye roller for me.
	Isn't that interesting?
	Well, and if you had had that clip, I would have been even happier because I would have seamlessly flown right into this clip, which is CNN Brooke Baldwin.
	You might have seen this one.
	Probably.
	Again, yes.
	And she has some author, professor, pundit Charles Kaiser on.
	And he is going to explain to us what Trump must do to stop being...
	If he doesn't want to be seen as a racist, he has certain things he has to do.
	And I found this to be just...
	The whole segment was fabulous.
	Let's bring in CNN political commentator and Trump supporter Paris Denard.
	Paris Denard is a pro-Trump guy, a black guy.
	Charles Kaiser is with us.
	He's a CNN.com contributor.
	And a white guy.
	And the author of multiple books, including The Cost of Courage, the story of how one French family fought the Nazis during the Paris occupation.
	Gentlemen, welcome.
	Of course.
	Thank you.
	Charles, let me just begin with you.
	I mean, now that you're hearing, we're getting some of the information coming out of this New York Times meeting that Trump has disavowed this particular group.
	Is that enough for you?
	Well, I'm delighted that my...
	Mr.
	Trump has visited my alma mater at the New York Times and said that he doesn't want to do this anymore, but I want...
	Did you hear this guy?
	Douchebag.
	What, did you go to a university?
	New York Times University, your alma mater?
	Can you say that for everything, your alma mater?
	I guess so.
	I guess.
	Now he's a New York Times guy.
	What he says goes.
	Yeah, he's the gray old lady.
	Right there.
	He is.
	He said that he doesn't want to do this anymore, but I want to give him a little advice.
	Oh, advice.
	For the future.
	If he does not want to stimulate the alt-right.
	Here we go.
	Don't stimulate the alt-right.
	Words I never thought I'd heard here in the media.
	First thing, you should never retweet someone with the name White Genocide who lists his address as Jew America.
	That's what he did in February.
	I have to say, good tip.
	I wouldn't do this either.
	If your address is Jew America, it's not something to retweet.
	Good tip, good tip, good tip.
	He should never ask his supporters again to give the Nazi salute, which he did at a rally in March.
	Now, this is interesting.
	And he has a little list, so he's reading these off to the right-hand side of him.
	He's saying that in a rally in March, he said, everyone, give me the Hitler salute.
	To pledge allegiance.
	And we deconstructed this at the time.
	The photo was taken from behind.
	Yeah, taken from behind, up high.
	And it looked like people were doing a Heil Hitler.
	But they pretty much were not.
	I mean, that is...
	And it's interesting because...
	The, whoever's in the line producer on Brooke's show, it takes a second, but then says clearly to Brooke, and in fact, I'll emulate that.
	Hey, wait a minute, that may not be true.
	You know, like, fact-checking on the fly.
	Quite impressive.
	Give the Nazi salute, which he did at a rally in March.
	That's not a good idea.
	In July, I think it was...
	When did he say that?
	In March, he asked his supporters to raise and pledge their support to his candidacy.
	That's true, but it was not the Nazi salute.
	And promised to vote for him.
	There's plenty of video behind that.
	Plenty of video not showing that.
	And then, of course, in July, he retweeted an image of his opponent with the six-pointed Jewish star on it.
	I thought that was a mistake.
	Also known as the Star of David, you numbskull.
	The six-pointed Jewish star.
	Six-pointed Jewish star.
	I think that's anti-Semitic right there.
	I think so.
	The six-pointed Jewish star on it.
	I thought that was a mistake.
	But we have bigger problems here.
	Also in July, you know, he selected as his vice president the most homophobic man in American public life, a person who believes...
	I love that.
	The most homophobic man.
	Really?
	In American public life, yes.
	See a video behind that.
	And then, of course, in July, he retweeted an image of his opponent with the six...
	Stop.
	He says there's a video behind that.
	What do you need a video for?
	He says he appointed the most homophobic.
	And there's a video.
	A video of what?
	Proof!
	He appointed a Jewish star on it.
	I thought that was a mistake.
	But we have bigger problems here.
	Also in July, you know, he selected as his vice president the most homophobic man in American public life.
	A person who believes that gay people actually do not have the right to exist.
	And then, you know...
	I thought you'd like that.
	What?
	Yeah, Mike Pence apparently feels that gay people do not have the right to exist.
	Is there a video for that?
	No.
	But I have to deconstruct the whole AIDS conversion therapy again, which we'll do in a minute.
	But first, let's just continue.
	Let's just continue.
	And then, you know, if you don't want to support the alt-right, don't choose as a White House counselor, a man who uses the word nigger, whose wife says that he did not want his daughters to go to a school with...
	Now, this is why I pulled this clip now.
	Because here is a white man using the N-word.
	And Brooke freaks out about it.
	She does, but I think right when he says it, that's when you should...
	What we have to do is a new sound effect, which is a counter.
	Click, click, click.
	Because it takes forever for her to come around to realize that she has to do something.
	And you can start counting down from when he uses the word.
	We'll do that.
	He did not want his daughters to go to...
	I'll have to go back a little further.
	My wife says that he did not want...
	Now, what is this?
	Come on.
	...for a man who uses the word nigger, whose wife says that he did not...
	Now, she said, wow, she said that almost immediately.
	You hear her go, wow, within two seconds.
	So she heard it.
	Yeah, but she doesn't put a stop to it yet.
	...daughters to go to a school with too many Jews, and don't choose, as an attorney general, a man who calls the NAACP an un-American organization, and who we learned in The Guardian today, went so far as to prosecute...
	Charles, can I just...
	Hang on a second.
	I appreciate you going through all of this, but please don't use the N-word on my show.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, I never use the N-word, except when I'm quoting someone who's been appointed by the president to serve in the Oval Office, since this is such a disgusting moment in our history.
	So, you know, Brooke was clearly, you know, she was clearly affected by this.
	And at the end of the segment, here's what she said.
	She was crying, John.
	She was really, she was tearing up.
	How do you feel when...
	All right, gentlemen, I'm going to...
	We're done.
	We're done.
	I appreciate both your voices.
	I am still...
	The more I've sat here and listened to the fact that somebody used the N-word on this show...
	My show.
	It is not okay.
	Yeah, my show.
	It is not okay, Charles Kaiser.
	I respect you.
	I enjoy having you on as a guest, but not okay.
	By the way, the claim that Mr.
	Bannon used the N-word, I've never heard of this.
	Oh.
	So there's that.
	Oh, maybe it's fake news.
	Sounds like fake news to me.
	Hold on.
	Don't talk on my jingles, man.
	Oh my God.
	Fake news.
	Okay.
	What?
	That's the new jingle?
	We have a whole boatload.
	I'm just going to play each one as we go through fake news.
	Okay.
	We'll figure out which is the best.
	I like the little...
	No, I thought that...
	What was the other one?
	There was a...
	Well, I mean, what we see here, this is...
	These are people who produce our show and have a lot of creativity.
	They don't have a lot of chops, but I appreciate all of it.
	of it.
	I'm still not sure why there's a puking sound and a ping pong ball at the end of that one.
	No, I think you called me out for mentioning something which you think might discourage us.
	I think my criticism of the first fake news jingle is something...
	The creator needs to know.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Because one of these famous things is going to be selected.
	I'm sorry.
	Don't take it wrong.
	No, absolutely.
	And we have to give feedback.
	Absolutely.
	So they wonder, why didn't they pick mine?
	Right.
	Because this other one's better.
	Right.
	I like this one, though.
	I thought that was pretty good.
	Okay, so now we move on to some little more racism stuff, because, hey, racism is what we do in America.
	Howard Dean, one of those moments, once again, goes on foreign television, thinking, no one will see that.
	I can say whatever I want to say here.
	He's a complicated guy.
	He appoints a reasonable person who's much more conservative than I am, but for somebody you can talk to, to his chief of staff, and then his senior advisor is a Nazi.
	I mean, what, you know...
	Okay, hang on.
	What are you doing?
	Well, this is interesting.
	You're talking about Rince Priebus, who is the chairman of the Republican National Party, right?
	He's now his chief of staff.
	Steve Bannon, who ran something called Breitbart News.
	Right, which is a far-right, anti-Semitic publication.
	You called him a Nazi?
	Well, he's anti-Semitic, he's anti-black, and he's anti-women.
	People like to throw around this word Nazi.
	I mean, I can't imagine he has any friends.
	I mean, who the hell is left?
	Anti-Semitic, anti-women, anti-black.
	That makes him a Nazi.
	He's anti-Semitic.
	None of it's necessarily true.
	No.
	I don't think he's anti-women.
	I don't think he's anything.
	No.
	But how does it, even if he was, how does that make him a Nazi, which would be a member of the National Socialist Party of Germany in the 1930s?
	Yeah, well, this Scandinavian actually does delve in a little bit.
	I think he's a little shocked, and rightly so.
	You called him a Nazi?
	No.
	Well, he's anti-Semitic, he's anti-black, and he's anti-women.
	People like to throw around this word Nazi.
	It's a pretty big word.
	It's a big word, and I don't usually use it unless somebody's really anti-Semitic.
	Unless I'm in Canada.
	I think no one's going to look at it.
	Black.
	And he's anti-women.
	People like to throw around this word Nazi.
	It's a pretty big word.
	It's a big word, and I don't usually use it unless somebody's really anti-Semitic, really misogynist.
	You really believe he did that?
	I mean, again...
	You look at Breitbart News.
	You'll make up your own mind.
	All right.
	Some will say, look, Donald Trump's daughter married Steve Kushner, who's an Orthodox Jewish guy.
	How do you square the circle?
	That's a very good question.
	I have no idea how he squares the circle.
	Maybe you're delusional, Howard Dean.
	Maybe that's why.
	Delusional.
	Delusional.
	I have no idea.
	No idea how he squares that circle.
	What does that even mean, square the circle?
	Well, square the circle, of course, is a reference to professional wrestling.
	Oh, I didn't know this.
	Well, you square the circle.
	They have these cage matches, which are often in a form, or actually the circles of the square is the ultimate fighting.
	They have this circle thing.
	But they talk about squaring the circle in boxing and wrestling every so often.
	That's where it comes from.
	Okay.
	Well, here is an actual case of racism that I was very surprised by.
	And we have a new face on CNN. Oh, I'd like this girl.
	Let me see.
	Her name is Simone Sanders.
	Have you seen her anywhere?
	No.
	Okay.
	Simone Sanders.
	Let me see.
	Well, she's a new CNN correspondent.
	Let's use the book of knowledge.
	She's probably in there.
	We can probably do that.
	Simone Sanders.
	Yeah, I had it written down.
	I just can't find my link.
	Here we go.
	Oh, she was Bernie Sanders' press secretary.
	There you go.
	Doesn't have much...
	He only hires people with the same last name?
	I guess.
	How'd that work out?
	And so, of course, you know, she's mad.
	Mad about getting screwed over by the Democratic Party.
	Mad as hell.
	Yeah, but then she's not going to take any longer.
	But enter the racism!
	Howard Dean?
	Howard Howard Dean, you know?
	Howard Dean was there for that 50-state strategy.
	But here's the issue.
	Howard Dean is also on record maligning young people and millennials, telling those Bernie folks they just need to get in line, and maligning Bernie Sanders.
	And that is not what we need, in my opinion.
	We don't need white people leading the Democratic Party right now.
	The Democratic Party is diverse, and it should be reflected as so in our leadership and throughout the staff at the highest levels, from the vice chairs, To the secretaries, all the way down to the people working in the offices at the DNC. I think we need to have a robust discussion about this.
	And I think we need to hear more from all the candidates.
	Jamie Harrison in South Carolina, he's great too.
	He has done real party building.
	But everybody doesn't necessarily know Jamie, and they want to know what it is that he stands for.
	So I want to hear more from everybody.
	I'm here for the millennials and the brown folks.
	You know, to say...
	Talk about racism.
	Did I not say this is actual racism?
	To say we don't need white people in the Democratic Party because obviously there is a difference in skin color and white people are different and not good enough to lead the Democratic Party.
	Yeah, that's what she said.
	I mean, come on!
	Yeah, she's extremely racist, this woman.
	Very racist.
	Technically racist.
	Yeah, technically racist, yes.
	So, very surprising.
	Now, here's a little bit longer clip, which has everything in it, and it's going bigly viral on the face bags.
	Bigly?
	Bigly viral on the face bags.
	I'm going to get a tattoo that says that.
	This is Tess Rafferty.
	Maybe you would know.
	Tess Rafferty.
	Okay, what about her?
	Okay, she is a writer for The Soup and other Comedy Central shows, like some of the roasts.
	So she's a comedy writer.
	She's a comedy writer.
	She does one-liners.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	You already don't like her.
	I can tell.
	I thought you would like it particularly because Mimi probably knows her.
	Don't you guys know all the comedians, the comic writers?
	Some of these up-and-comers.
	We're dated.
	Okay.
	So she does a video which is released under Occupied Democrats.
	And it's a little longer than our two-minute kind of max.
	But, holy moly, this really shows you the delusional thinking.
	And everyone's hallucinating and delusional right now.
	And I can show that on both sides, which we'll do during this program, to help everyone deconstruct themselves.
	But listen to this.
	I am so damn tired of trying to see it from the other side.
	I'm trying to discuss...
	Wait, maybe I should just set up.
	The setting is her in...
	It looks like a large recording studio, but it's dark.
	It's black and white.
	She has, you know, like a sheet note holder.
	In front of her, but that's with her speech that she's doing here.
	It's very stylized.
	Like a musician's thing?
	Yes.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Yeah, musician's music stand.
	You might want to...
	She's cute.
	You might want to take a look at her.
	I'm looking at her in a picture now.
	Yeah, okay, good.
	Well, then you have the whole vision.
	Sarah Silverman type.
	Yes.
	Not so bony looking.
	You know?
	It's a gestalt.
	It's a gestalt.
	Well, yes, gestalt indeed.
	I am so damn tired of trying to see it from the other side.
	I'm trying to discuss nuance while they paint us and our candidates with the broadest of hateful brushes.
	I'm tired of pretending it's somehow reasonable.
	Do you want to interrupt the whole thing?
	I'm sorry, but it's hard to get by some of these commentaries.
	Okay, what bothered you there in the first eight seconds?
	Talk about broad brushstrokes.
	In fact, that Jon Stewart clip that you play, the premise of it was that We, as Democrat liberals, condemn the Republicans for painting Muslims with broad brush strokes, but we do the same thing with Trump by calling everyone who voted for him a racist.
	And a bully.
	Exactly.
	And so she's in denial about that immediately.
	Correct you are, sir.
	I am so damn tired of trying to see it from the other side.
	I'm trying to discuss nuance while they paint us and our candidates with the broadest of hateful brushes.
	I'm tired of pretending like it's somehow reasonable to teach creationism in public schools with my tax dollars while you tell me that two same-sex people who love each other getting married somehow threatens your marriage.
	If you voted for Trump, I am tired of trying to see things your way while you sit in your holier-than-thou churches slash white power meetups refusing to see things mine.
	Wow!
	While you sit in your church meeting slash white power meetups.
	Holy mackerel, what a bigot.
	It ain't over yet, boy.
	Did I just lump you in with white supremacists?
	No.
	You did that to yourselves.
	You voted for the same candidate as the KKK. You voted for a candidate endorsed by the KKK. For the rest of your life, you have to know that you voted the same way as the KKK. Does that feel good to you?
	Here's a hint.
	It really shouldn't, especially if you call yourself a Christian.
	This is another good one.
	They just keep bringing back the KKK. And, you know, you have to disavow.
	You can't just disavow.
	You have to get on a box, on a tower, with a megaphone and disavow.
	But even that may not be enough.
	It's insane.
	I'm tired of pussyfooting around what offends your morals while couching what offends mine.
	Because racism and homophobia and misogyny and xenophobia offend mine.
	Let me say it right here.
	If you voted for Trump, I do think you're a racist.
	I do think you're homophobic.
	I do think you're a misogynist.
	There you go.
	There's your generalization.
	You're lumping together.
	Racism and homophobia and misogyny are all a spectrum and you're on it.
	Oh, it's all a spectrum.
	That's new.
	That's new and it doesn't make sense.
	Well, we have a spectrum, which is the spectrum.
	Where is everything on the spectrum?
	Autism has a spectrum.
	Well, autism is a single thing.
	You could say misogyny has a spectrum.
	No, it's all on the spectrum, baby.
	It's all on the spectrum.
	And I think you could say racism has a spectrum, but you can't put the three of those and say they combined have a spectrum.
	It makes zero sense.
	You're just throwing it out.
	They're on the spectrum of a-hole.
	Okay.
	Racism and homophobia and misogyny are all a spectrum and you're on it.
	Don't like getting painted with the broad brush of racism?
	Now you know what it feels like when you get told that you want to rip a baby out of a mother's womb at nine months when that's not what happens.
	That's never what happens.
	Okay.
	So people who are pro-life want to think that pro-choice rip babies out of wombs at nine months.
	It's kind of graphic.
	Well, she's also...
	She's very...
	Anyway, go on.
	Just keep playing.
	I'll try not to keep...
	No, please do.
	No, please do.
	No, no.
	Interrupt when you feel appropriate.
	It's okay.
	Or rip a baby out of a mother's womb at nine months when that's not what happens.
	That's never what happens.
	Hold on a second.
	Not that I want to keep interrupting.
	Why is she even doing this video?
	Who's it for?
	And why did she...
	And again, why did she do it?
	Oh, well, there is a conclusion.
	And...
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, there's a conclusion.
	You'll love it.
	...out of a mother's womb at nine months when that's not what happens.
	That's never what happens.
	I tried to be polite, but now I just don't give a damn.
	Because let's be honest, we don't live in polite America anymore.
	We live in grabbing by the pussy America now.
	I like that.
	Hell yeah.
	And that's true.
	Everywhere you go, the punchline is grabbing by the pussy.
	I mean, we do live in grabbing by the pussy America.
	Let's be honest.
	We don't live in polite America anymore.
	We live in grabbing by the pussy America now.
	So thank you for that.
	Being polite was exhausting.
	And don't come at me with how you just didn't like Hillary.
	This was bigger than Hillary.
	Hold on a second.
	Stop, stop.
	And I'm really reluctant to keep interrupting.
	No, this is the point of playing the whole bit.
	But she makes a point that it was difficult and exhausting to be polite.
	She's naturally rude.
	Yeah.
	Yes, exactly.
	It was so exhausting.
	Thank you.
	That's a good point.
	It takes a lot of work to be polite, and I don't like doing it anymore.
	I'm going to just be my normal rude self.
	And she is, apparently, if you listen to this.
	I like that.
	Hold on.
	You know what I don't have?
	Hold on.
	Where's my pen?
	Pen.
	My pen.
	So while you're looking for your pen, I will make a recommendation to the listeners out there.
	Yeah.
	And the producers.
	Yeah.
	And it's a long story behind this, but the pen that you want to buy, which is the smoothest writing instrument I've ever run into, and it was discovered by a bank teller who used to work at the mechanics bank, and she was raving about this pen.
	It's the Paper Mate Ink Joy.
	Ink Joy?
	The Ink Joy pen is absolutely fantastic.
	You know, I'm always looking for a pen.
	Currently I'm using...
	What is it called?
	Paper Mate?
	Paper Mate Ink Joy.
	Paper Mate has a bunch of different kinds of pens, but the Ink Joy is the pen that just is dynamite.
	Oh, it comes in multiple colors.
	Yeah.
	20 count of these?
	Okay.
	You can get a cheap set of 10 different colors for like $5, which is $0.50 a pen.
	Yeah, I'm going with this.
	But I would try to get the upscale models that have a nicer barrel.
	Although that doesn't make any difference, the little ink cartridge inside is the same in all of them.
	Yeah.
	I mean, currently I'm using the Pilot Precise V7 RT. No, it doesn't hold a candle to the ink joint.
	Really?
	No.
	You're going to die when you get one of these angels.
	Holy shit, this is such a nice thing.
	And let's get back to the clip.
	Yes.
	Wow.
	Woo!
	Digression, everybody.
	And don't come at me with how you just didn't like Hillary.
	This was bigger than Hillary.
	This wasn't your standard, I just want lower taxes and smaller government Republican.
	We had Germans warning us that this guy was scary.
	The Germans said this guy is scary.
	This is a bigoted comment.
	Yeah.
	She takes the Germans and puts them in a special position of being a-holes, and even these a-holes...
	Let's be honest, when it comes to being an a-hole, the Germans, they take the crown.
	This is a great example of incredible kind of unconscious, because she doesn't know what she's doing, bigotry.
	Yes.
	It's dynamite.
	And it has the ultimate sanctimonious smugness in it.
	Yeah, sanctimonious smug, bigotry.
	Smug joke.
	This guy was scary.
	And still you cried emails or Benghazi or that voice.
	And so there's been mountains of evidence proving that nothing that you think Hillary did was that big of a deal or even true.
	Some of the finest minds in the world have drawn you graphs and charts proving that no crimes were actually committed and you were either too dumb or too willfully ignorant to care.
	And if you really cared about crimes...
	You're too dumb.
	You're dumb.
	Dummy.
	You're dummies.
	Dummies.
	Dummies.
	No crimes were actually committed, and you were either too dumb or too willfully ignorant to care.
	And if you really cared about crimes, you'd care about any of the three pending against your candidate.
	Take your pick.
	I'd start with the rape of a 13-year-old girl, but if you voted for Trump, you probably don't care much what happens to women.
	Doesn't matter anyway.
	She received so many death threats from your political peers that she dropped the charges.
	Wow, man.
	So just say, hey.
	Like 20 years ago, some...
	This was a very sketchy case.
	And I warned everyone that was going to happen and that it would all go under Jane Doe and it would all be dropped.
	It's exactly what happened.
	Even though her name is, apparently she tried this suit in Los Angeles where her name was actually revealed.
	Yeah.
	And it was like she was suing for like 70 grand or some really small amount until a real attorney got a hold of her.
	Well, Gloria Allred.
	Yeah, I said, no, no, we're going to sue for millions.
	And I'll tell you, Gloria Alred?
	Alred?
	Alred.
	Yeah.
	She doesn't give up a case unless she knows she's not going to win it.
	Exactly.
	She's a hound, man.
	Bites in.
	All right, continue.
	But ask me again when more women don't come forward.
	And speaking of smaller...
	I'll ask you when more women don't come forward.
	Okay.
	But ask me again when more women don't come forward.
	And speaking of smaller government and lower taxes, enjoy not getting mine.
	If Trump actually does what he says he's going to do, then your petty backward state and your small angry towns can pay for your own schools to not educate your children.
	I live in California, the largest economy in the United States and the sixth largest in the world.
	We'll be fine.
	You're broke!
	What do you mean you'll be fine?
	Good!
	You're broke!
	We live in California, the largest economy in the United States and the sixth largest in the world.
	We'll be fine.
	But have fun affording all those children.
	Except for the potholes.
	The largest economy in the United States and the sixth largest in the world.
	We'll be fine.
	But have fun affording all those children your health insurance won't pay for your birth control to prevent.
	I'm just kidding.
	You're not going to have insurance.
	Won't that be just great again?
	Okay.
	The truth is that for those of us on this side, there is no when all this is over.
	Things are just getting started.
	We think last Wednesday was bad.
	We don't know what bad is yet.
	This isn't something you get over.
	This is something you endure.
	We are going to face attacks on every right we fought the last 60 years to gain.
	The deck is so stacked against us, we may not win.
	The best we can hope for is gridlock.
	And that's just nationally.
	Internationally, who the fuck knows what this lunatic is going to do?
	And the scarier thought is that the only thing worse than this guy is the guy who's one angry tweet away from the presidency, Mike Pence, advocate for gay conversion therapy and mandatory funerals for fetuses.
	So now's the time you might want to see things from my side.
	Because if we're all going to have to be friends after this, imagine me having to be polite and respect your vote to take away my rights and freedoms and those of my friends while we fight desperately to try to hang on to them.
	Because that is what you did.
	There you go.
	Join the resistance, everybody.
	That's what you did.
	You did that.
	You did that, yes.
	And now imagine us trying to be friends.
	Can't happen.
	What is the point of this?
	Why would she do something like this?
	It's dumb.
	I think it's part narcissistic.
	Oh, part?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I think it's part narcissistic.
	What I wanted to read is the...
	I think this is it.
	I need to deconstruct once again what Mike Pence said.
	I'm going to remind the producers and listeners that don't help us That we have to do this more often than not a couple or two or three times because nobody gets it the first time.
	Or it keeps coming up in the conversation.
	That's what bothers me the most because it's so obviously bogus.
	Yeah.
	And...
	You have the stage, my friend.
	I have the stage.
	Okay.
	It all stems from the publication, which is linked in the show notes, 880.noagendanotes.com.
	Find them all at archive.noagendanotes.com.
	This is Mike Pence for Congress.
	The Pence agenda for the 107th Congress.
	So this is from 2000 for the 2001 election.
	And in this Pence agenda, he has...
	Here we go.
	He has under the heading, Strengthening the American Family, the following.
	And this is what this is all based on.
	Now, I'll ask you again, John, what exactly is he being accused of when it comes to LGBTQ plus rights?
	He thinks they should all die.
	Yeah.
	And he thinks that the conversion therapy is what we should use our taxpayer money to fund.
	It's even worse.
	It was divert funds from HIV money to conversion therapy.
	People were quoting this in emails to me and then misquoting it in their interpretation.
	It was unbelievable.
	People really need to work on reading and understanding and words matter.
	Here we go.
	Congress should support the reauthorization of the Ryan White Care Act only after completion of an audit to ensure that federal dollars were no longer being given to organizations that celebrate and encourage the types of behaviors that facilitate the spreading of the HIV virus.
	That's the first part.
	Now, the way this is interpreted, the way people literally copying this quote and then saying, what does that mean?
	Organizations that celebrate and encourage the spreading of HIV. But that's not what it says.
	It says...
	Federal dollars will no longer be given to organizations that celebrate and encourage the types of behaviors that facilitate the spreading of the HIV virus.
	Now, you can interpret that any way you want because that's your truth and that's what's in your mind.
	It could easily be...
	Drug use.
	Many different types of organizations.
	Obviously, he doesn't like homosexuality.
	That's his right, but everyone in our country has rights.
	The Ryan White Care Act, which he says should be reauthorized, is specifically intended to give treatment to HIV victims.
	So, he's talking about organizations that he feels there should be, in line with his own convictions, that it should be organizations that are, I guess in this case, purely medical.
	But it certainly is not talking about organizations that celebrate and encourage the spreading of the HIV virus, which I see written over and over again.
	The second and last part, resources should be directed, not redirected, should be directed towards those institutions which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior.
	That does not mean if you don't want to be gay.
	That could mean promiscuity.
	That, again, could be drug use.
	It could be a whole bunch of things.
	But it's in your mind how you want to interpret that.
	But for sure it doesn't say redirect funds, and for sure it doesn't say conversion therapy.
	Redirect is not there.
	No, and it doesn't say conversion therapy.
	Yeah, conversion therapy is never mentioned.
	Again, you can...
	Isn't people just reading into it?
	Yes, it is complete delusion.
	I'm not taking away from anyone's belief of what they think words mean, but that's it.
	This is what this is all about.
	And from this, I mean, in that video, which you didn't see, when she was talking about conversion therapy, they cut to a screenshot of a page scrolling by and then zoom in on the words conversion therapy as if he wrote that.
	You know what that is?
	That's fake news.
	Yeah.
	That's fake news.
	That's exactly what it is.
	Fake news.
	Fake news.
	I'm in my living by fake news.
	Write boogie stories that come from your views.
	You think people will get some clues.
	They give me a quick fake money.
	Wait for the hook.
	See, and I tell you that my tears aren't true.
	CBS just don't know what to do.
	The doctors, they all do it too.
	They need that native ad money.
	They do it all because they need that native ad money.
	laughter It's a good one.
	Fabulous.
	It's a little long.
	Yeah, well, and I should mention the previous one was Mr.
	K. Bacon.
	This was Joshkin.
	Joshkin, who did that one.
	Joshkin!
	Joshkin.
	Hello, Cleveland!
	Exactly.
	You know, so, you know, this is just being peddled off as true, true, true, true, true, true, true.
	And I'm sorry, I am just not reading the same thing you're reading.
	It certainly is not, if that's all there is, that's not a lot to really, you know, call this guy the things that he is.
	I'm sure he's the most hateful homophobe in the country ever!
	In public life!
	In public life!
	I'm very sad to report the end of Tim Allen's career.
	I always liked him.
	I always thought he was a cool guy.
	What did Tim Allen do now?
	The ultimate sin.
	Here he is.
	First of all, he went on Megyn Kelly's show.
	That already puts you on the shit list.
	You're on the watch list.
	You're on the watch list.
	But then you do this?
	I'm not a spokesman for Hollywood.
	I'm a comedian.
	So I get to tour around the country and I do comedy and I do a show that leans...
	We have a point of view.
	Your character is a conservative.
	Point of view, but it's written by liberals.
	We have a liberal staff.
	That goes without saying.
	That's redundant.
	But we have a sense of humor about ourselves.
	She thought that was so funny.
	I didn't even get the joke.
	What did she say?
	But comedy writers being liberals is redundant.
	I'm telling you, she thought that was a hilarious object.
	Someone wrote that for her then, I guess.
	No, I think this is one of her one-liners that she has waiting and, you know, ah, that's just redundant.
	We should give her some Confucius say.
	It would be cool.
	And if she just popped it out and said, Plato, say, that would be cool.
	We have a point of view.
	Your character is a conservative.
	Point of view, but it's written by liberals.
	We have a liberal staff.
	That goes without saying.
	That's redundant.
	But we have a sense of humor about ourselves, and there's a point of view, and there's a place to do it.
	What I think is what I find odd in Hollywood is that they didn't like Trump because he was a bully.
	But if you side, if you had any kind of inkling that you were for Trump, you got bullied for doing that.
	And that's where this, it gets a little hypocritical to me, is that you can now bully people, and you're always on the defense with this, but mostly what I'm finding is there's no source material for comedians.
	Like, if I want to find a joke on the show, we go up river to find the joke, and there's no, like, he was against homosexuals somehow.
	And I said, where did you...
	Donald Trump?
	Yeah, whoever said that?
	And he didn't, he waved the flag at the convention, he had the LBGT flag.
	And I said, that was an unusual...
	They've got to be with Mike Pence on that, but Donald Trump, no.
	But a close associate to him, I don't see it.
	And so he said, I can't make a joke about it.
	I feel like we're playing that game I played when I was a kid at Telephone.
	Did you ever play that in high school?
	Yeah, of course.
	Where you say something at the beginning.
	And that's what's happening.
	It's only funny to me because I'm a comedian.
	I can do this.
	But it's very difficult in Hollywood to find anybody, any source material that would...
	Well, how are you surviving there as somebody who's, you know, on TV as a conservative?
	Well, I might not after tonight.
	He's proud of himself as open to Donald Trump's ideas because there are a lot of actors, I know many of them, who are part of the Hollywood conservative underground and they do not reveal that they lean right at all.
	I'm really an anarchist.
	That's how I look at it.
	As comedians, I don't let anybody tell me what to do, period.
	I know, but people still object to that.
	If they find out you support Trump at all, it's like you smell bad, especially in Hollywood.
	Believe me, I've had these.
	They're not even discussions.
	You get bullied into a position.
	I don't want to defend the guy.
	He said stupid stuff.
	To me, sometimes he acts like a new talent comedian.
	If you've ever been to a new talent show at a comedy, there's guys that have great material that have very, very bad comedy timing.
	And he's got terrible timing.
	What do you mean?
	Well, he'll see.
	He says stuff that could be.
	George Lopez, and I hate to doubt George, he said a joke about that he was against the wall.
	Years ago on stage, it was real funny about, we've got to build a wall.
	Forgive me, George, but the Mexicans will have to build it.
	And that was the joke.
	Donald says it, or the expectant president?
	President-elect Trump.
	President-elect, expectant president.
	Guess that would be kind of weird, wouldn't it?
	He actually was expectant.
	Well, who knows?
	But sometimes he doesn't say things I give him the benefit of the doubt.
	A lot of comedians we watch go, God, if he just gapped that a little bit, it might have been funny.
	And he may, in fact, be a guy that wants to be funnier than he is.
	So, interesting perspective.
	Then, what he says, A, is...
	He said, I wanted to make up jokes about him hating gays, but I go looking for the source material, and guess what?
	It's not there.
	Uh-huh.
	And now, that's not necessary, though, to write jokes.
	Do all comedians do that?
	It doesn't seem right.
	Well, I mean, you can be Sarah Silverman, who I brought up earlier, and just do material about Trump being anti-gay without the material.
	Just make it up.
	Right, right.
	But I think he was just trying to make a point.
	It's not like everybody researches their jokes.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	He's making a point.
	Then he also said, well, you know, you get bullied.
	You get bullied.
	Right.
	No one calls Trump a bully.
	That's exactly what you said.
	These guys are bullies.
	How can you like Trump?
	He's a misogynist.
	He's a xenophobe.
	Are you a misogynist?
	Are you a xenophobe?
	I always liked your show, Tim.
	Especially since you're a ham.
	He doesn't have a show anymore.
	He's just on the road.
	He's got money in the bank, I hope.
	Finally here, our former congressional black staffer, Angela Rye on the CNNs.
	The Democratic Party seeks to divide and keep this country guessing for them, playing for them.
	And the Republican Party wants to have people with their eyes on the horizon achieving as much as they can.
	And that's what Donald Trump represents.
	When you look at the New York City skyline...
	This is a Trump supporter, obviously.
	You see achievement.
	You see Donald Trump's achievement.
	He wants every American to be able to achieve the same thing.
	The Democratic Party wants to keep it dependent on them.
	No, on the backs of poor people.
	John, I have to respond to this.
	On the backs of poor people, you're talking about a Donald Trump that refused to pay contractors.
	You're talking about a Donald Trump who used immigration laws and abused immigration laws to build these same buildings.
	You just compared what Democrats have done, whatever that is, to slavery.
	You're saying that?
	To slavery.
	Democrats are slave drivers.
	Uh-huh.
	Historically, yeah.
	Whatever that is.
	To slavery.
	You're saying that Democrats and the fact that people are not who and what they should be, they haven't been able to economically thrive in this country, you're comparing them to slaves?
	If you want to talk about that, let's talk about economic inequality and what your candidate is going to do to address some of that.
	Part of the real issue here, Carl, is the fact that he won't denounce white supremacy until white folks.
	How many times do you want to do it?
	No, he hasn't.
	Not this time.
	That's how he uses everything else.
	But until he goes on a platform and says, this is not the path for our future.
	We will not be able to benefit off of the backs of poor people and continue to push this type of racist propaganda.
	We need to call it for what it is.
	The very people who you're talking about, who you think are looking for free gifts and handouts, are people who have been disenfranchised since they got off the slave ship in this country.
	And until you recognize that and pay for that, We're going to continue to have this problem.
	Oh, now we're going to pay for it.
	Now you want us to pay for it.
	Yeah, there should be reparations.
	You stepped on her.
	That's exactly what she said.
	Now you want us to pay for it.
	Yeah, there should be reparations.
	I'm happy to have that conversation, but I'm sure there's not enough time in that statement.
	That is the most ridiculous un-American statement I've ever heard.
	Oh, there's nothing un-American about reparations.
	Reparations.
	I think some people outside of the United States of Gitmo Nation may want to understand what that's about.
	Reparations.
	Professor Dvorak.
	It's paying...
	It's like if you...
	There's a lot of ways you can define it.
	But it seems to me that the major definition they're working with is the idea that...
	40 acres in a mill?
	Because of...
	No, because of slavery, every generation since the Emancipation Proclamation by Lincoln...
	Ever since then, they have been disadvantaged because of the original situation, and they've been disadvantaged in such a way that it can actually be determined in a monetary sense that they are owed money for being screwed over systematically by the system, by the government, and they should get paid a compensation, which is referred to as reparations.
	It makes some sort of sense in some way.
	It's just problematic because so many years have gone by and there's a lot of people that...
	Well, but not only for that.
	I mean, if that were possible, then why can't transgendered Americans say reparations have been screwed?
	They could.
	They could.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's the big fear, because almost everybody, the Irish, when they first came over, were discriminated against horribly.
	And you could make a case for reparations for everybody in the Boston area.
	But I think it was only the redheads, only the ginger Irish, because, you know, they have no soul.
	So you could have all these cases made for reparations for everything, pretty much.
	You went to a crappy school, which is very possible, especially in today's day and age, and you end up with a big student loan debt because of your situation.
	You were screwed.
	Reparations are in play.
	Handouts.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it's not fair.
	Not fair.
	Pay me.
	I got treated unfairly.
	Okay.
	That's why it's going to go nowhere, because if that ever happened, it would be a nightmare.
	I mean, you might as well just bankrupt the country.
	I had a thought the other night, where a lot of people still probably don't know the history of slavery, and that it was the Republican Party, Abraham Lincoln in particular, the leader of the country at the time, who, you know, the Republican, who said, we've got to stop slavery.
	And the Democrats were...
	Well, the Republican Party came out of the abolitionist movement.
	Yes, thank you.
	That's even better.
	And so Republicans were the abolitionists, Democrats were the racist slave-holding a-holes.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Now somewhere along the line, that switched.
	Lyndon Johnson, it's believed.
	Okay, I'll finish the sentence.
	So somewhere along the line, that switched, and then all of a sudden, Democrats became the high and mighties, and Republicans became the misogynistic, racist, anti-Semitic, blah blah blah, horrible people.
	Yeah.
	You said this came out of LBJ? That's the thought.
	Yeah, LBJ had some recordings actually where he said that we can have the...
	Wasn't this the Nixon Southern strategy?
	Wasn't that part of this?
	No, that was taking advantage of what LBJ was doing.
	LBJ, with his war on poverty, decided that he could set up...
	He believed he was setting up a system that would make the blacks vote Democratic for the next 1,000 years.
	And there's some recording of him talking about this.
	When that happened, the Republicans were kind of screwed because they were doing the switcheroo.
	And so they went to the Southern strategy to pull all these Democrats that were down there who are racists, the Dixiecrats, to make them Republicans through code words and the like, supposedly.
	And now I think the Republicans are pulling another quick one to get the working class to be Republicans.
	Well, I think that's been happening for a number of years.
	Well, it has to because the Democrats have gone toward the yuppies and they've been the white collar workers.
	They hang out with the bankers and they're Wall Street oriented and they don't give a crap about the workers.
	And they've just been coasting on the union support.
	And so that is easy enough to steal.
	And so I think Republicans are the only one who noticed you could do this, and he's the one who did it.
	And now the Republicans are thinking about maybe making this switch.
	The irony to this, because I've thought about this with the Republicans switching over, or I'm sorry, the working class, lower middle, middle, and so on, switching to be all Republicans.
	This makes me think that Norman Lear...
	Here's a very interesting irony.
	All in the Family Show had Archie Bunker as a working class guy, probably a union guy, who was a Republican.
	It was made zero sense, especially during that era, because there wasn't a guy like that.
	My family was this way.
	My dad was kind of an Archie Bunker type character, not in the racist way, but in just a working class, died in the world Democrat, you know, always going to vote party line.
	And that's the way all these people were.
	But somehow Lear decided to make him a Republican.
	That was...
	No way he could make the connection that Republicans are racist, xenophobes, and all the rest of it, which has been drummed into the Democrats' heads, because Archie Bunker was.
	But there was no such guy as Archie Bunker.
	They never existed.
	There was no Republican working guy like Archie Bunker.
	It was bullcrap.
	So I would say that that's where the switch happened.
	It was Archie Bunker.
	Well, that's where the switch may have begun.
	Huh.
	Because it was like, you're watching this guy.
	I think it was a mistake.
	Because you're watching this guy, and you're just a working class guy watching comedies, going, huh.
	Well, I kind of think like that, too.
	The guy's bone, meathead, whatever the nickname was for the kid was just a tub-thumping, you know, radical.
	And, you know, check out the Republicans.
	But the Republicans were never open to it until now.
	And now I think they're going to steal that entire part of the election.
	So that is exactly where I was going, is it feels like with this election...
	People will eventually wake up, because you can't keep going on in this loop of hallucination forever.
	And people will wake up and say, hold on a second, the Democrats are racist.
	I feel there's a crossover here.
	I think it's gone back.
	We won't notice this for years, probably, but I believe this is the cross, the turning point.
	It could be.
	But when you have like that clip you played of that bigoted comedy writer going on and on with hate, it's essentially a hate speech.
	Yeah, it's hate.
	You have to start thinking to yourself, wait a minute.
	How can you be, you know, you're pointing the finger, but you're exhibiting all these qualities you're complaining about.
	It reminds me of that Dutch saying.
	Ja, wat je zegt bent jezelf met je kop door de helft.
	Exactly.
	You are what you say they are.
	Yeah.
	Which is more often true than not.
	Yeah.
	When you call somebody a racist, you are the racist.
	So this all fits under the header for me, the civil war that we are now in in the United States.
	Luckily, it's a civil war that's being fought out on face bag, mainly.
	So we're pretty safe.
	Yeah, it's like, you know, people getting into a purse fight.
	Yeah, but...
	Man purse.
	But still, you know, it's tricky.
	It's tricky.
	You know, it's very difficult to speak with people.
	And this...
	It's impossible.
	It really is, yeah.
	So this is a form of cognitive dissonance.
	But what I found here is a clip from Jonathan Haidt.
	That's the professor who you had talking about how the millennials became so safe spacey.
	The one you put in the newsletter?
	That guy?
	Yeah.
	I like him.
	And what he does is he's taking it, I think, to the logical next step.
	You know, let's just put all the racism and all that stuff behind us.
	What is happening?
	We have rising nationalism.
	Then we've seen this argument.
	Arguably, that's what Brexit was about.
	I think, arguably, that's what the Trump election is about.
	And, you know, he is a professor of ethical leadership at New York University.
	I'd like to play this clip of him on the psychology behind the rising nationalism, which is, I believe, responsible.
	Or, no, the friction over it is responsible for the civil war that we're in right now.
	So the story that I tell is one in which, in a sense, the globalists or the left started it, or I should say they did things that amplified the conflicts.
	So we have to ask why.
	Why?
	And even in Scandinavia, why are the really successful, prosperous democracies, why are they having the same issues of right-wing reaction?
	And I think what you have to do is see, globalization doesn't just change our economies.
	It changes the next generation of people.
	So young people who are raised in peace and prosperity develop values that shift to the left.
	That is, they begin to care about women's rights, animal rights, gay rights, the environment.
	So you get this very progressive set of values in the next generation.
	So the generation that fought World War II, they were toughened, they were changed by that in many profound ways.
	But their children come out caring not much about nationalism and patriotism, but much more about women's rights and other issues far away.
	So that's beautiful in many ways.
	But it creates a generation that really is anti-nationalist, anti-patriotic.
	And I think the anthem here is John Lennon's song, Imagine.
	But you know what?
	A lot of people, maybe more than half in any country, have a very different psychology.
	They don't find this beautiful.
	They find this basically a commitment to eliminate many of the things that they love most.
	Their nation, their culture, their sense of identity.
	Globalists have to understand that all over the world they're doing things that trigger an authoritarian reaction.
	And what is it that you think is the outcome of this new division of globalists versus the nationalists?
	Because there appears to be a sense of not just acute polarisation, but actually intolerance on both sides.
	Yes, I think there are two disastrous outcomes, two things I'm very, very worried about for my country.
	And for all the Western democracies, it's the same thing.
	One is identity politics on the left has been brewing for a long time.
	I've been a professor since 1995 at the University of Virginia and now New York University.
	And so I've watched identity politics get stronger and stronger, more focused on matrices of oppression, straight white males this, straight white males that.
	And after a while, as I forget who pointed out in the current election, you keep treating white men as an identity group.
	You keep saying they're terrible, they're evil, and eventually they become just like another identity group.
	And they voted their racial interest, in a sense, you might say.
	So identity politics on the left eventually triggers identity politics on the right.
	Now, what's interesting is I picked this up from the Stanford professor's Facebook page.
	Then he actually had a comment saying, hmm, interesting perspective.
	Which is good.
	Yeah, well, maybe he'll talk to you again someday.
	No, I doubtful.
	Hey, you're a Civil War expert.
	Are there any parallels?
	I don't know about that, but I'm knowledgeable.
	I thought you studied the Civil War.
	I did, yes, absolutely.
	Okay, you're not an expert, you studied.
	You're more expert than I. That's probably true.
	Any parallels between what we're seeing right now with this cultural divide?
	I would say probably is very similar.
	I don't think this is even new.
	I think you could trace this back through the John Birch Society of the 1950s and everywhere in between.
	And I just think it just shows up in the news more.
	I've never been a believer that anything that we're witnessing is new.
	Well, and I would wager that it's really social media that is...
	I think the social media has amplified the problem.
	Yeah, it really does.
	There's no doubt about that.
	Well, I do have a song.
	But why don't you just play that guy?
	I have to play.
	There's a clip here.
	I have a little entremant to move to your clip?
	It's better to play the clip first, I think.
	Okay.
	Because it's about what he just said.
	Okay.
	And I think the entremant would be good for moving on to something new.
	That was my plan.
	This is a couple of...
	There was a thing on C-SPAN. I'm watching C-SPAN and NBC pretty much exclusively.
	Did you see Book TV? Book TV's got some good stuff going.
	Book TV always has good stuff on it.
	And this is about Western civilization.
	There's a couple professors that came on and they pointed out something interesting.
	First, let's just play the guy from, here's a guy from tech, a professor at Texas Tech, one of the few schools, it turns out, that actually teaches Western civilization anymore.
	I was unaware of this until I listened to these two guys bitch about it.
	Yeah.
	Oftentimes, when you kind of speak in defense of Western civilization, the comeback is that you're being ethnocentric.
	You're not being inclusive.
	You're not kind of taking in the whole global scene in which all of humanity is present.
	And I think that actually reflects a profound misunderstanding about Western civilization.
	And what it has become.
	And the misunderstanding is this.
	To the extent that one can talk about there being a global civilization, about there being something that embraces and links together all of humankind, that something is Western civilization, which has gone global.
	And it has gone global because it is so powerful.
	Because it has brought such Constructive and liberating change to the human condition.
	Western civilization is as close as anything could possibly be to global civilization.
	They're really two names at this stage of the game for the same thing.
	Of course, Western civilization's roots are in a very particular part of the world, in Europe, in the Mediterranean.
	And eventually in those places that were settled by Europeans.
	So if you looked at Western civilization circa, say, 1700, you would see something that was still relatively confined geographically.
	But if you look at Western civilization today, it is indeed very close to being human civilization.
	Now, the reason these two guys are talking is because they've discovered...
	Let's play the other guy first, then I'll explain this thing.
	This is the Yorktown professor.
	...of whether or not or how Western civilization is taught in our colleges today.
	It's online and you'll be able to read it, but it is a striking evidence of the move away...
	From the basics of American civilization and participation in the West in our premier colleges and universities.
	When I was an undergraduate many years ago, I had to take two semesters required courses in history of West civilization.
	I bought a big textbook, and it was quite burdensome, but on the other hand, I learned something about my civilization that I would never have known.
	Absent that, I don't know where you're going to get this kind of information or knowledge.
	These guys pointed out around 3,000 major universities in the United States.
	At this point, only 2,975 of them, in other words, all except 25, They don't teach it anymore.
	Harvard doesn't have it.
	Princeton doesn't have it.
	I don't even think Cal has it over here.
	They do not teach, like the guy says, they do not teach the kids about their own civilization.
	They teach about African civilization.
	They teach about Muslim civilization.
	They teach about all these other civilizations, but they do not teach our civilization to our kids.
	That's correct, and that is why you get groups like NPI, who we'll talk about after our break, putting together what is deemed as white supremacist conferences.
	Yeah.
	And worse.
	Oh, yeah.
	And I've been blaming the schools.
	I think one of the themes of our show is that the schools have not taught anybody anything.
	Civics is not taught like it used to be.
	Kids can't balance a checkbook.
	They don't know how to get a checking account.
	They don't know how to be part of the system.
	They're removed from it.
	And the whole teaching of the civilization in which we work and live, people don't even know what it is.
	They don't teach it.
	So they can be buffaloed into all kinds of problems.
	Believing all kinds of stuff.
	Lifestyles.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	You're queer, you're here, get over it kind of thing.
	That's pretty much the basis of everything as we speak.
	And this, of course, is what ultimately creates our crybaby millennials.
	They have no foundation.
	That's the problem.
	So why, why the millennials cry?
	We'll discuss race in a safe space, let the gender terms fly.
	We must adhere to social justice or die.
	Hope that you're not us as gendered white guy.
	You're not us as gendered white guy.
	Hey, can I point something now before we go into the segment?
	That's William Stagno, by the way.
	Yes.
	Very good.
	He's got that lilting voice, which is so perfect for singing folk songs.
	Totally has it.
	So my wife comes down for Thanksgiving.
	She drives down from Washington.
	Did she bring animals?
	Yeah, she brought some animals.
	She also brought some dry goods from Washington State that you can only get at certain places.
	Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
	One.
	Which animals did she bring?
	She brought the big giant dog.
	And a couple other dogs.
	How many in total?
	Three.
	Oh, okay.
	And what dry goods?
	Stuff you could buy at these special dispensaries in Washington that are now open to the public.
	That will surely be open to the public here.
	I thought you would have sounded a little happy today.
	No, I don't use that stuff.
	And I'd be like, hey man...
	Whoa, the light's coming in.
	So she would listen to 15 hours straight of No Agenda, because she hasn't been listening to the show.
	So she is like going to Paris after you haven't been there for 10 years, and you go, oh, things have changed.
	Wait, wait, did she say, hey, that show's pretty good?
	Let me guess.
	No, she did, actually.
	Uh-huh.
	But she made some interesting comments that I have not, she says the show is snappier, it moves faster.
	She says there's more inside baseball, inside material that, you know, that we take for granted that is very confusing.
	Hard for new people to figure out, you know.
	But!
	Uh-huh.
	I told her that, and we had to discuss this, because I know that we do this on purpose.
	I said, we do it on purpose.
	I said, well, no, we do that on purpose.
	And every time I say that, she says, sure you are.
	I think it just evolved.
	But no, we do stuff on purpose.
	And I said the idea of having our own language, calling people Chip instead of their real name and stuff like that.
	We used to use different names from Clippity Clop, for example.
	She says there's more of that than before, and it's very confusing, but she says the way you listen is that you listen to what the hell?
	She says, what the hell are they talking about?
	And then something grounded.
	And then the penny drops.
	Then all of a sudden it's like, oh, I see what they're saying.
	Exactly.
	And I said that this is interesting because we used to always have this problem with new listeners where the show was off-putting for two or three shows like five years ago.
	And so people just until they heard three shows, they didn't like the show at all.
	But the feedback I get now is, I listened once, and I was hooked.
	I've had that comment over and over again.
	Yeah, you're right.
	I think it's our comedic stylings that are hooking people.
	Yeah.
	So she said...
	It must be Plato Says.
	You're hooked from the minute the show starts.
	Well, it's definitely a good hook at the beginning.
	But she made some observations, and I paid some attention to them.
	And...
	You know, besides, it sounded like you made a lot of money on that last show.
	Where's my cut?
	What?
	Is that what she said?
	No, I'm just kidding.
	You're hoarding cash, Dvorak!
	Yeah, uh-huh.
	But she says the show is more rapid fire.
	It moves along a little.
	It's got a quicker pace.
	I'm not totally convinced of all of our observations, but...
	I'm good to know that we were using more of our little secret terms that are only part of the No Agenda world, which is a way you want to create communities, and that's not putting people off from the show.
	They just put up with it for a while like she was doing, and then just eventually it comes, oh, okay, oh, that's what that was about.
	Okay, I get it.
	Well, this is good feedback.
	Yeah.
	I thought so.
	Anything we should change?
	Any ideas?
	She absolutely had no ideas for anything to change.
	Well, in that case...
	She thinks I... Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, in that case, let me thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C! With a C stands for...
	Cannabis ain't for me, dude.
	Dvorak.
	In the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground.
	Subs in the water.
	And all the damn nights out there.
	In the morning to everybody in the chat room, noagendastream.com.
	Helping out as usual.
	Very good to see y'all.
	In the morning to all of our artists who are always contributing some of the most outstanding art at the Art Generator, noagendaartgenerator.com.
	And thank you to Pei.
	Pei brought us the artwork for episode 879.
	I can't believe it's not news, was the artwork.
	Yeah, a very simple one.
	This is the one...
	All it is is to take a butter thing and change one word, but...
	Yeah, well, sometimes that's all it takes.
	The simplest ways are sometimes the best ways.
	I'm reminded back on the George Bush with the big glasses part.
	I think that Nick did, or...
	Yeah, I think it was Nick.
	Well, we appreciate it, and we appreciate everyone who supports this program.
	Again, all the jingles.
	We play more of your submissions during today's show and more as they come in.
	It's good to have people...
	Back on the stick, you know, not all of them are great, but we'll give you some constructive feedback.
	We'll turn you into producers yet.
	And also people who support us financially.
	That was my lead-in to you, sir.
	So we have Mark starting with, we have a bunch of executive producers and associate executive producers to thank for show 880.
	Starting with Mark Power, who came in with 999.99 out of London.
	ITM guys, please dub me Sir Marcos Dracos of Deep Thought Karma for Art.
	Well, if we're going to dub him anything, we have to chip in a penny.
	Okay, I got that for it.
	No problem.
	Okay, that's a thousand.
	He wants to play the pestilential trio, Ebola, Zika, and Bugs.
	Okay.
	Here's to the best podcast in the universe, and his final comment is, kill the mic drop, it sucks!
	Not gonna happen.
	But I do have your pestilential trio with the karma.
	Ebola, Ebola, Ebola.
	You come from Africa, you fly a ringer.
	May I have your attention, please?
	Zika, zika, zika, zika, zika.
	Yeah.
	Where's the money?
	1.9 billion dollars.
	Zika, zika, zika, zika, zika.
	Yeah.
	Where's the money?
	Small heads are coming.
	I love bugs!
	Bugs, bugs, bugs!
	You've got karma.
	Tastes like poop.
	There you go.
	Okay, then we're going to move to, for reasons that will become apparent, Anthony Trusknich in New Hope, Minnesota Nuts.
	$880.
	And he says, whoops, let me just get this.
	All I got is I could use a dedouching is what I got.
	That's all he wants is a dedouching.
	You've been dedouched.
	You've got karma.
	That's 880, man.
	This is nice.
	880.
	Thank you.
	Lex from Brooklyn, 880.
	Please credit this donation to Lex from Brooklyn.
	Okay?
	Done.
	I made one previous donation prior to this.
	Hopefully it'll be on my way to nighthood for show 888.
	For the triple producer credit, I'd like to have this applied to show 880, 888, and 889.
	Is that how it works?
	It's kind of, yes.
	Fine by me.
	Thank you, Lex.
	It's a matter of doing it.
	Thank you, Lex.
	That's Lex from Brooklyn.
	And onward to, let's see.
	Oh, my keyboard.
	My keyboard.
	Did you lose it again?
	No, I have this tendency to put it down, and then I can't figure out where I put it.
	Not that this floor is covered with crap.
	Demetrios Nepliotis, which we constantly mispronounce.
	$400.
	And $400.
	I'm wondering if you both already have read Joel Kotkin's book, The New Class Conflict.
	It's about the conflict of the economy that produces consumable, tangible goods manufacturing and the intangible world of media software and entertainment.
	I wonder what you think of the thesis.
	Anyway, I think I'm a knight.
	Oh, he's not on the list.
	No, well, he just thinks he's a knight.
	He should be on the list.
	I believe he's...
	Yes, he's a knight.
	He doesn't give us a name to use.
	Oh, no, he wants to be Sir James of Cornucopia.
	Yeah, so that's...
	Got your pen?
	Hold on a second.
	Demetrius Nafpliotis.
	And he wants to be Sir James of Cornucopia.
	Correct?
	Yes.
	Okay, done.
	It's on the list.
	Taken care of.
	On the fly.
	I've decided, oh, I skipped over an $880 donation from someone.
	I just want to make sure that he knows he's getting credit on the list, but we're not going to mention his name.
	Because he doesn't want us mentioning his name on this particular show.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Done.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	He's got some scheme afoot.
	That's the reason.
	Squire Stickton?
	Yeah, now we're at the Squire Stickton.
	It says, keep doing what you're doing.
	It says, no, it's just handwritten note.
	Nice penmanship.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry, John.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Night to be Sir James of Cornucopia had three jingles he wanted.
	Where?
	Look at it.
	He wants butt slam.
	Can you see that juice?
	Don't eat me, Hillary Clinton.
	Sorry.
	Just notice we have to do that.
	Whoa, you got butt slammed!
	Can you see that juice?
	Eat me, Hillary Clinton!
	And I'll throw in the karma.
	You've got karma.
	Sorry, I completely spaced on it.
	Hey, man.
	Was that the hookah?
	Did Andrew Horowitz just send you the same thing he sent me?
	No.
	He sent me a video of him sucking on the hookah.
	It's posted on Facebay!
	Yeah!
	Done!
	That'll go over.
	Hey, Horowitz, you should be listening to the show, man.
	I think he just downloads and listens once in a while.
	Squire Stickton has a note.
	From Houston.
	Keep doing what you're doing.
	He says, there's a PS. My wife calls you the boys.
	Oh.
	When I say something off the wall, that's when she uses this term.
	She says, oh, did you hear that from the boys?
	Ha, ha, ha.
	Well, at least we're boys.
	Yeah, well, give him a karma.
	Of course, and his wife a big karma.
	You've got karma.
	Well, I used to do that with one of our producers, who I know personally, who used to be a big fan of Rush Limbaugh, and he began to, like, just parrot what Limbaugh said.
	And I'd say, what, did you hear that on Limbaugh?
	Sounds like it.
	Yeah, it's also, it's rude because, you know, it's not conforming to our, how we identify and our pronouns.
	It's not the boys, it's Z. Did you hear that from Z? Z? Yeah.
	We use our pronouns.
	It's rude.
	Whatever's the case.
	Yeah.
	I think we got that.
	Tom in New Hampshire, 222.22.
	Adam and Amp.
	Just one of those things we need.
	Thanks, PayPal.
	Double-biting coding, people.
	Thank you for delivering wisdom.
	Oh, sorry.
	Let me read it again with the right pacing.
	Thank you for delivering wisdom-drenched analysis each week.
	Thank you.
	We do our best.
	I think he needs a little wisdom-drenched karma.
	What do you think?
	Here it comes.
	You've got karma.
	Timothy Kiernan in Plymouth, Michigan 222.22 Here's one small step for no agenda and one giant leap toward my eventual knighthood.
	I will mention some things I'm thankful for despite John's pet peeve about this particular holiday.
	I'm thankful for no agenda keeping me sane during 2016 and for John and Adam working on their holidays like today.
	But feel free to take a break once in a while.
	You've earned it after all these years.
	I'm thankful for Uncle Don, whose informal and perhaps unwitting contributions to the show have always made me look forward to the holidays when Adam might visit him.
	I did buy Don's book Pot Shards twice, once to keep and one to give as a gift.
	It's magnificent and should be on everyone's gift list and they should, if they should like, thought-provoking nonfiction and sane foreign policies.
	Uncle Don for Secretary of State.
	I'm thankful for my fellow Michigan No Agenda producers.
	And there's a very good group.
	It's local number one.
	Please include the following link in the show notes for today's episode as it will help other Michigan producers to join our Michigan mailing list that we use for occasional meetups, which is blissfully silent the rest of the time.
	So you're going to put that in there?
	Yeah, it's already in there.
	Already in there.
	Please play the No More Okie Doke jingle based on the awesome American funk band, The Meters.
	Did Adam or John ever see them live?
	Not me.
	At the end of the show, please play the full-length Bing Bong Bong China I Love China Trump song.
	I would also like some career karma.
	I mean, also...
	There's something at the bottom.
	I don't want to hurt your feelings, but I feel both John's Confucius Says openings and Adam's beloved mic drop endings are played out.
	Okay.
	The Confucius Say is funnier until it craps out, which will probably be shortly, but not...
	So I don't, the whole, which is not our song, I might add, the China, and China, and China, it's not our song, and I have a whole bunch of other things for the end of the show.
	But I got your karma, and I'll put it together like this for you.
	Okie doke.
	If we fall for okie doke just because it sounds funny or provocative, if the tweets are a bunch of okie doke.
	Bing, bing, bong, bong, bing, bing.
	You've got karma.
	Thank you.
	And our last two is Mats Kier...
	Kesrud.
	Kesrud in Oslo, Norway.
	$200.
	No karma for me.
	I'm not worthy.
	He writes.
	Please send it to Sir Skigmanen of Borgshire, his wife and their newly acquired human resource, Ella.
	Please add Ella to the birthday list.
	She is added, and here's the karma.
	You've got karma.
	Very nice.
	Always nice to hand out karma to someone else.
	Beautiful.
	And Craig Allen is last on the list with $200, and he has nothing here, so I'm thinking he may have an email.
	And I'm going to look it up.
	Ah, okay.
	Well, while you're looking that up, No, actually, I won't do that while you're looking that up.
	I can take a look, too.
	What's his name?
	Alan Craig Allen.
	I've got a lot of Alans here, that's for sure.
	Here it is.
	He's got a sorry, and then he says, read for late donation.
	Sorry.
	Let's read the sorry note first.
	Give karma to everyone who needs it.
	I'm going to fight for my life, so karma is not needed.
	Okay.
	That's what he says.
	Now here it is.
	Read for late donation.
	Thank you again.
	Sorry for the late donation as well.
	This came in.
	I should have put it for the last show, I guess.
	Again, use what you need with my letter.
	Ha ha.
	I know it too long.
	I'm just happy I can donate to the show.
	Craig.
	All right.
	So, uh...
	Oh, here is a long one.
	He says, I never donated to the show for almost a...
	Year and a half, I've been in a fight for who, like Donald Trump, is a silent killer.
	But honestly, I've been fighting lymphoma since 2015.
	And I wanted to donate, but my treatments with chemotherapy, my naivete with death and cancer, I've been struggling with trying to understand what type of cancer I have.
	And the doctor's trying to figure out how to deal with helping me due to the rarity of my strain.
	I'm Native American, American Indian, whatever the masses call us.
	But screw them, because this has been a long fight.
	What I know is that you give me motivation, us, to get this shit.
	Right on.
	Yeah.
	With more hindsight and more understanding, though, what the hell is going on?
	No one knows what is going on, but I want to trust your vision and progression of what lies ahead.
	Underline that because it's not certain, but we know through your deconstructions as we as producers run an outlet on a way to see the world through a new world order.
	I'd like a mac and cheese for natives.
	It's hard to donate, and I did.
	And I love bugs because we are heading that way.
	And Adams and John's favorite, of course, fuck cancer.
	Sorry for the late donation.
	Ah, okay.
	And what else did he want?
	He wants a mac and cheese.
	Yeah, I got that.
	He wants the bugs, bugs, bugs, and then F cancer.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	Yeah, man.
	Hang in there.
	Karma usually...
	Love yourself.
	Love yourself.
	Oh, that's the wrong one.
	Dash dang it.
	Dash dang it?
	Wow.
	Yeah, I know.
	Am I dating myself?
	No.
	Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand.
	I love bugs!
	Bugs, bugs, bugs!
	Tastes like poo.
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	F the cancer.
	And that concludes our opening credits for associate executive producers and the executive producers of episode 880, the super lucky number.
	These are triple credits that these fine producers will be receiving.
	And I know, John, you have a spreadsheet with all of the ones from the previous shows, so it'll be easy after the show to put them all in.
	Okie doke.
	There you go.
	We'll be thanking everyone else, $50 or above, later on in this segment.
	And thank you very much.
	Thankful for all the producers.
	That's really what I'm thankful for.
	Thankful for all the producers here at the No Agenda Show.
	And we will be back on Sunday with yet another episode.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. And you're at the Thanksgiving table.
	You might want to try propagating the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Shut up, slave!
	Shut up, slave.
	A new one.
	Oh, crap!
	I forgot.
	I have three PR mentions.
	Number one.
	This is from...
	I don't know who sent this.
	I was messing around with this before the election.
	Pretty fun.
	You can have the extension replace your least favorite candidate.
	But we're talking about having fake news filters.
	One of our producers has two of them, which could be modified, so it's a good starting point.
	You can find them at TrumpFilter.com, which I guess filters out every...
	Mention of the word Trump and HillaryFilter.com.
	Not exactly what we were asking for, but it's something to look at.
	Then we have, in the PR, also the Michigan Meetup email list.
	And here's...
	I really love this one from producer Eric.
	In the morning, Adam and John, long-time listener, monthly PayPal subscriber for many years.
	I'm also an iOS developer with my company's sugar-coated apps and have recently started making sticker packs for iMessage because, hey, why not?
	I mean, us slaves love texting and stickers.
	I recently completed some custom badge stickers inspired by no-agenda jingles and catchphrases.
	No Agenda podcast stickers are now available so fans and listeners can propagate the formula with 33 classic jingles turned into iMessage badges.
	So you don't have an iOS device, John, but the kids, the women, I say, not just kids, women love the stickers.
	Yeah, it's like an emoji, only it's not.
	It's a big sticker.
	It's a sticker.
	It's a sticker of a unicorn.
	Oh yeah, women love these stickers.
	So now you can send no agenda stickers.
	You've got karma in the morning, shut up slave, hey citizen, thank you for your courage.
	They're very pretty.
	Yeah, they're great.
	I mean, you know, they're big, you know, colorful stickers.
	Keep in mind, Eric says, every time someone sends one of these stickers to an iOS user, they will see sent from No Agenda podcast in their iMessage feed.
	This is an easy and fun way to help promote the show.
	I agree.
	They're 99 cents in the iMessage app store.
	Apple keeps a third of the proceeds, of course, but I plan to donate 50 cents per sale back to the show.
	If they get enough traction, I'd like to press some as real physical stickers for sale because they look pretty nifty in my opinion.
	Thank you for your courage and continued dedication to media deconstruction.
	How cool is that?
	It's very cool.
	I'm going to give the chat room the link so they can start on it right away.
	A good idea.
	And I especially like that it says sent from the No Agenda podcast.
	Yeah.
	That's cool.
	Good initiative.
	Thank you very much, Producer Eric.
	Well, I wanted to do a breakdown of, of course, I've been watching NBC. And NBC is the worst of the Trump haters.
	And now they've got three women, I don't remember, the three different women reporters who are going after Trump.
	Hallie Jackson's one of them.
	They still have Katie Turr.
	And then there's some, the third one.
	They're just going, they're doing report after report, you know, slamming this guy as much as they can.
	Slamming!
	Not slam!
	Just to give you an idea of what NBC is kind of all about.
	I want to play this clip.
	This is Richard Engel.
	Yes, our Peabody Award winning A-hole.
	He is in Aleppo.
	But no, he's not.
	He's actually on a computer talking to a guy in Aleppo.
	Oh, yeah.
	And I've got this, uh, and of course they're slamming the bombing of the hospitals.
	Over and over again.
	And he's reporting on this.
	And at the very end of this particular clip, he goes on after this.
	But he does coach the guy to say something.
	And then I think he just forgets to take this little tidbit out when he gets into the room.
	Editing booth.
	I think he just left this in and made a mistake.
	I think he shouldn't have left it in.
	But you can play this and you'll hear it at the end.
	There is urgent new concern tonight about the situation in Syria after government forces bombed yet even more hospitals in the rebel-held part of Aleppo, leaving 250,000 people with severely limited access to critical care.
	The UN humanitarian chief said the situation has gone from terrible to terrifying and now barely survivable.
	Our latest now from Chief Foreign Correspondent Richard Engel.
	Cameras captured the moment bombs hit what was one of just two hospitals left in eastern Aleppo.
	A team from Al Jazeera Television was filming inside.
	Ah, good effect.
	Nurses faced a heartbreaking choice, taking babies out of the incubators, keeping them alive.
	Oh, wait a minute!
	Not the baby incubator ruse again.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, man.
	You know what?
	It worked well the first time.
	You're right.
	In case you don't know what we're talking about, Gulf War...
	Was it one?
	Was it the original?
	The original.
	Desert Storm.
	Yeah, and they had a phony person who worked for a PR agency in New York.
	Daughter of a guy who ran a PR agency in New York.
	Daughter.
	Yeah, and she testified before Congress with a bullcrap story.
	I don't understand.
	I guess she never got sworn in.
	So otherwise they would store in the slammer for perjuring herself, but it was a bullcrap story and it emphasized babies in the incubator.
	Yes, and it sounded like this.
	My God, for 25 years, they've been growing babies in cows!
	No, that's the wrong clip.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, it sounded kind of like that.
	Patients didn't know where to run.
	Nurses faced a heartbreaking choice, taking babies out of the incubators, keeping them alive.
	Or leaving them in a hospital that had become a target.
	Now, there's only one hospital left.
	Tonight, we spoke to a member of the Aleppo Medical Council.
	We're so worried for that final hospital.
	If this final hospital is bombed, what will it mean for the people in eastern Aleppo?
	Party!
	It will be a disaster for all of us in Aleppo.
	By almost any measure, this part of Aleppo, under attack by the Syrian regime, is already a disaster.
	There is no food completely.
	Food is running out.
	Okay.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	I couldn't hear it.
	Hold on.
	Don't say anything.
	I want to hear what he says at the end there.
	What the hell was that?
	The Syrian regime is already a disaster.
	There is no food completely.
	Food is running out.
	Okay.
	There is one being out.
	He said food is running out?
	Yeah, he said, there's no food.
	And then Engel coaches him and says, food is running out.
	Ah, yeah, you have to say it that way.
	And the guy then says, okay, food is running out.
	He couldn't say it.
	But it sounded like he said, they're bombing now.
	That's what it sounded like at the end.
	He says, they're bombing now.
	No, he tried.
	Play it again.
	Maybe he did say that.
	There is no food completely.
	No food is running out.
	Okay.
	There is bombing now.
	Yeah, I think he says, okay, and then he says, okay, they're bombing now.
	Yeah, of course he's prompting him, of course.
	Yeah, you're right.
	But I don't think he edited himself, that's why.
	If you were just an editor, you may not have understood that that was a prompt.
	Yeah, Engel has a Peabody.
	He's not going to edit his own piece.
	Hello, he's got staff.
	Well, you might be right.
	I never thought of using somebody else's editor.
	Most of these guys are supposed to do their own editing.
	I have a tie-in to this bombing, unless the NBC stuff stays on that track.
	No, go with yours.
	This other thing, the rest of this NBC stuff is about Trump.
	Okay, well, it's even better.
	It's not just about the bombing in Aleppo.
	No, it's Diane Ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-chan, our favorite from Russia today.
	Who is on the Kirby shit list, as you know.
	We played it the last time.
	Oh my goodness.
	And he'll hear it, how disdainful he is.
	And of course, she's not letting up on this, hey, you said the Russians bombed the hospitals.
	Show us proof, please.
	He keeps saying, well, why don't you talk to your own military, man, you fake newser.
	You fake news are not the same.
	It's state-sponsored news.
	State-sponsored, like the BBC. Here we go.
	Did you have a question?
	On your...
	Did you hear how he's...
	Do you have a question?
	Do you have a question?
	No, he hates her.
	Oh, damn he hates her.
	Did you have a question?
	Europe.
	Go ahead.
	So yesterday you said Russia's deployment of missiles to its Kaliningrad region is destabilizing to European security.
	Do you think the largest buildup of NATO forces near the Russian border since the end of the Cold War and the deployment of the missile defense system which Russia sees as designed to contain Russia?
	I'm sorry.
	It's completely the wrong clip.
	I'm so sorry.
	I'm noticing.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	It's a good clip, though.
	Yeah, it's a great clip.
	We'll get to it later.
	I'm sorry.
	Whoa!
	Epic fail.
	The jury will disregard whatever the heck I was trying to do right there.
	Epic fail.
	And we're back.
	That was fun.
	That was a fun adventure.
	Yeah, it was good.
	Now we're going to deconstruct Lester Holt and his bevy of beauties who are just going to go after Trump in every way.
	And I'm going to give you an example of what we're going to listen to.
	This is...
	I had a situation...
	I'm going to report on myself in the way that NBC is reporting.
	John Dvorak...
	Wait!
	Stop!
	Stop!
	Wrong!
	It's John C. Dvorak.
	John...
	Well, no, they would screw it up.
	They would screw it up.
	You're right.
	John Dvorak is very irresponsible.
	No, stop!
	It would be John Dvorak.
	John Dvorak is very irresponsible.
	He had a nail in his tire...
	And instead of having it fixed immediately, he drove around for a week and then pumped up the tire with an air pump on a daily basis when he could have had it fixed.
	But he didn't have it fixed.
	Why is this?
	Why didn't he have it fixed?
	He could have had it fixed.
	What a dick!
	So he finally had it fixed a week later.
	An entire week went by and he finally had it fixed.
	This man is irresponsible.
	Sounds right.
	In other words, it's meaningless.
	Who gives a crap?
	Hey, great tire story.
	I like the tire story.
	This is fact, by the way.
	Fact!
	Fact!
	NBC hold Trump about face one.
	President-elect Donald Trump did an about face today on something that became a popular refrain at his rallies on the campaign trail, lock her up.
	Now backing away from his vow to prosecute Hillary Clinton for her use of a private email server.
	It was just one of many issues Trump addressed today, including conflict, potential conflicts of interest involving his businesses.
	We get details from NBC's Hallie Jackson.
	She should be locked up.
	Some promises he ran on as candidate, now looking less likely as president-elect.
	Okay.
	She should be locked up is what she used as her example.
	She should be locked up is not a promise about anything.
	No.
	It's not a promise.
	It's just like wishful thinking, it seems to me.
	She should be locked up.
	And now she says, Hallie, she goes, oh, oh, the man needs to be violated a promise.
	Is there more about this particular promise?
	Because I have one thought about it.
	Yes, sir, it continues as this report continues.
	She brings in a little better clip, but she's exemplifying she should be locked up as a promise to lock her.
	That's not a promise.
	It's just a comment.
	I agree.
	All right, onward.
	Starting with his pledge to prosecute Hillary Clinton for her email server.
	She has to go to jail.
	Now, Donald Trump confirms what a source close to him first told NBC. Quote, it's just not something that I feel very strongly about.
	Well, so much for locking her up, I guess.
	Trump, who doesn't have the power as president to prosecute anyone, tells the New York Times, I don't want to hurt the Clintons, adding, she went through a lot and suffered greatly in many different ways.
	Breitbart, the conservative outlet that's backed Trump, is now blaring the headline, Broken Promise, with news now of maybe another one.
	During his campaign, Trump attacked a major climate deal, the Paris Accord, signed by nearly every nation in the world.
	We will cancel this deal so that our companies can compete.
	Today, he says he has an open mind about the deal.
	The walk back, raising questions about what he will do as president and what he's already done in his businesses and charity.
	The Trump Foundation reporting in a new filing, it violated IRS rules.
	Tax experts say correcting that could require paying taxes and possible penalties.
	On the business side, unanswered questions about how he'd wall off his personal interests from the interests of the country, suggesting on the trail it wouldn't be an issue.
	I wouldn't even be thinking about the business.
	I mean, who cares?
	I mean, I would actually say, who cares?
	Now, Trump's brushing aside fears of conflicts of interest, pointing out, the law's totally on my side.
	He's right.
	The president is exempt from conflict of interest laws, but not from constitutional provisions forbidding foreign gifts.
	The president-elect today also condemned and disavowed a recent gathering here in Washington of members of the alt-right, a conservative extremist movement with ties to white nationalism.
	He added he doesn't want to do anything to energize that group.
	Lester?
	Kelly Jackson, thanks.
	None of the travel headaches that could be ahead for a lot of time.
	I have a comment on this.
	I'm sure there's more.
	Well, I got ten comments on this.
	This clip, by the way, should have been cut off earlier because I'm trying to make these points individually.
	I have one comment specifically about, well, what she's not saying is that what I've heard Trump say is, I want the Clintons to heal.
	These people need to heal.
	I don't want to go after them.
	I want them to heal.
	They need time to heal.
	I think this is the most brilliant checkmate move I've ever seen.
	This is so obvious what he's done here.
	Explain.
	Well, by saying, I'm not going to go after that.
	I'm not going to go after anybody.
	Which, of course, obviously, he wouldn't go after someone.
	It would be Congress.
	It would be the FBI. She says this in a report.
	She makes the comment, he has no power to prosecute anyone.
	But they play that on the downside.
	They have, oh, the guy wants to do this and that, and he's not going to do it.
	By the way, he doesn't have any power to do it anyway.
	And then she's screaming and yelling.
	She does the same thing with the taxes.
	But, wait, stay there.
	Okay, keep going.
	The reason why it's checkmate is because if you have the incoming president saying, eh, just let him heal, we're not going to do anything, makes it very difficult for President Obama to pardon anybody.
	Oh yeah, no, I thought that too.
	Actually, when I heard this on the radio, I said this may be a way to keep Obama from pardoning or in advance.
	Once he's out, boom, that's off the table.
	Oh yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, no, I think you're absolutely correct.
	Okay.
	That's all I wanted to say.
	It's a ploy.
	Of course, they don't see this.
	They don't see this because they won't even suggest it.
	It's checkmate.
	It's checkmate.
	Obama can't do anything now because it'll make him look, oh, why did you have to pardon them if there's nothing wrong?
	Because Trump's not going to go after him.
	What's going on?
	Yeah, I'm in total agreement on that.
	All right, good.
	So let's go back to what else she says.
	She goes on about conflict of interest.
	Oh, it's all kinds of conflict of interest.
	Although it's not, the president's not, she does the same thing.
	Boosts an idea and then mentions that it's not illegal.
	And the other one, which is the one that really got me cracking up to myself, is he may have to pay taxes and a penalty.
	I have to pay taxes and a penalty when I file late.
	Yeah.
	I have to do that, yeah.
	And I guess technically it's a violation.
	It's a violation of the IRS! And hold on, this don't accept gifts from foreign leaders?
	I mean, come on, Hillary Clinton accepted a $75,000 necklace and wore it saying, well, we didn't want to insult this foreign leader who gave that to us.
	Come on!
	This is bull.
	But that's what they're going to use.
	Because I've noticed this amongst my liberal friends.
	You still have some left, huh?
	I don't lose the friends over this.
	That's what you think.
	They're all having meetings.
	Dvorak, what a douche.
	Well, they may be talking bad about it.
	Now...
	They're all banking on this one emoliment.
	I can't remember the word, but it's in the Constitution that you can't take these gifts from foreign dignitaries, mostly.
	And I think they're all hoping to God that there's some way of connecting a hotel somewhere in Dubai or someplace that It has an expensive suite that the sultan rents out to a foreign gift.
	They're going to try to do that.
	But there's no...
	Well, no, it's even funnier.
	Like, well, if some foreign leader comes to D.C. to meet with the president and stays at the Trump Hotel, that's a gift.
	Supposedly.
	It's a room that I could rent.
	How is it a gift?
	Am I giving him gifts, too?
	If you rent, you're gifting.
	But somehow paying for a hotel room is a gift.
	When it's not.
	Let's play clip three and see if it's not a repeat.
	Breitbart, the conservative outlet that's backed Trump, is now blaring the headline, Broken Promise, with news now of maybe another one.
	During his campaign, Trump attacked a major climate deal, the Paris Accord, signed by nearly every nation in the world.
	We will cancel this deal so that our companies can compete.
	Today, he says he has an open mind about the deal.
	Is this the same clip?
	Yeah, it is, but I want to segment it off for a reason.
	I got you.
	Hold on.
	I'll finish it then.
	Stop, stop it.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	How come this isn't celebrated?
	Instead of condemned.
	What do you mean?
	How come it's not celebrated?
	How come it's not celebrated?
	Oh, he's got an open mind about the climate deal.
	Fantastic!
	Now we can maybe go ahead with what we want to do.
	Well, in fact, it seems like he has an open and very counter-conservative thought pattern about all of this stuff.
	Yeah, why isn't it celebrated?
	Why is it condemned?
	Oh, because now he's a liar.
	Okay.
	Whatever, it's just, he's a liar.
	He lied.
	He lied, now he's being kind.
	It's unbelievable to me.
	We can play the last part again, which I think is clipped off for a reason.
	Oh, you mean the last part of that clip?
	No, no, part four.
	On the business side, unanswered questions about how he'd wall off his personal interests from the interests of the country, suggesting on the trail it wouldn't be an issue.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	Were they playing a Rolling Stones bed?
	Yeah, that's Can't Always Get What You Want.
	Can't Always Have What You Want, which is one of the things he played at his things, but I think dropping it in there was a little peculiar.
	I don't know what the video was.
	Maybe the video had that in the background?
	No.
	Wall off his personal interests from the interests of the country, suggesting on the trail it wouldn't be an issue.
	I wouldn't even be thinking about the business.
	I mean, who cares?
	I mean, I would actually say, who cares?
	Now, Trump's brushing aside fears of conflicts of interest, pointing out, the law's totally on my side.
	He's right.
	The president is exempt from conflict of interest laws, but not from constitutional provisions forbidding foreign gifts.
	The president-elect today also condemned and disavowed a recent gathering here in Washington of members of the alt-right, a conservative extremist movement with ties to white nationalism.
	He added he doesn't want to do anything to energize that group.
	Lester?
	Allie Jackson, thanks.
	None of the travel headaches that could be ahead.
	Yeah.
	Okay, that's good.
	You can stop it.
	Can we talk about this alt-right thing for a second?
	Okay, but first let's play the goblin clip so we know what alt-right's all about.
	The goblin clip it is.
	I don't care if he has goblin guides to go into Washington.
	I don't care if he gets goblin guts on him.
	But if he catches him kissing goblins or in bed with a goblin, you know, that's a problem.
	Or what if he marries a goblin?
	What if he has babies with a goblin?
	I mean, that would be what Hillary did.
	End of show.
	Okay, great.
	Perfect.
	Perfect.
	Great.
	Excellent.
	Excellent.
	You're welcome.
	Alt-Right.
	Oh, Alt-Right, yes.
	Sorry.
	So, I don't really have any clips of it, because if you haven't seen it, it's everywhere.
	The Atlantic magazine put a video on a report that this group, NPI, National Policy Institute, who had a conference in D.C., in the Reagan Hall, I believe, just to make it worse...
	That it was a bunch of white supremacists.
	The video they show is of this leader guy, this Spencer guy.
	You may have a clip of it.
	I didn't clip it.
	I have a clip of it.
	Oh, good.
	Why don't you bring it up?
	You can use that as your base.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Where is this clip?
	I don't know.
	Google News.
	I do have a clip.
	Maybe it's this Holly Jackson clip.
	Halle Jackson, let's take a look.
	Press not invited.
	His aides today forced to fend off new questions about how the president-elect can juggle both his business dealings and the business of the country.
	By the time he takes office as president of the United States, everything, every law will be complied with, every I and every T will be done.
	The focus?
	His new D.C. hotel and a recent reception, complete with Trump wine, meant to woo foreign diplomats.
	They spent a lot of time talking about The property and how they hope that this would be a property that the diplomats would use.
	The sales pitch?
	Raising concerns overseas customers might stay there to win brownie points with the next president.
	Meanwhile, the foreign bank that financed Trump's acquisition of that property and these others is under investigation by the Justice Department, a department Trump will oversee come January.
	Trump's name not just on hotels here at home, but around the world.
	15 properties internationally with a lucrative deal in Turkey and business ties in Saudi Arabia, even as he assailed the Clinton Foundation for its links to the foreign government.
	Why don't you give back the money that you've taken from certain countries?
	Some of Trump's biggest business deals coming from India.
	Pictures now surfacing of some Indian business partners visiting last week, despite the president-elect in the thick of transition talks at Trump Tower.
	The conflicts that are going to follow from his ownership of the Trump Organization while serving as president are pervasive.
	They're obvious.
	They're foreseeable.
	Separately, late tonight, different video is surfacing that's raising some concerns.
	It shows an alt-right conference here in Washington, where one of the speakers praised Donald Trump with language similar to that used in Nazi Germany.
	For us, as Europeans, it is only normal again when we are great again.
	Hail Trump!
	Hail our people!
	Hail victory!
	People in the crowd responding with straight-arm salutes.
	That speaker, Richard Spencer, telling NBC News he intended his words to be ironic and exuberant, insisting the alt-right is not a neo-Nazi movement, adding Trump has been good for them.
	A Trump spokesperson responding to that conference says President-elect Trump has continued to denounce racism of any kind, and he was elected because he will be a leader for every American.
	Lester.
	This is a callback to what we were talking about earlier.
	I looked into these guys.
	I watched a whole lot of video.
	Okay, can I mention one thing about the video that they were showing?
	Yeah, sure.
	This guy says, hail Trump.
	And then about three arms out of maybe 200 people go up like a Nazi salute.
	As far as I'm concerned, when the number's that low and not everybody all of a sudden did it.
	In other words, there were shills.
	It could have been from the Democrat side for all I know.
	Not only that, but...
	Okay, so this is Richard B. Spencer.
	He's the president and director of the National Policy Institute, npiamerica.org.
	And what these...
	First, I'll tell you what these guys are about.
	They're about exactly what we were talking about, about white culture.
	And, you know, we have black Americans, Chinese Americans, Irish Americans, everyone's got a culture and a club and it's okay.
	And they're saying, hey, we're a European culture and this is who we are and this is our identity.
	And they claim over and over again they do not hate anybody.
	They're not anti-Semitic.
	In fact, part of the video has a couple of Jews who were at the conference doing the Hail Trump as well.
	Tequila is doing this now.
	And I've heard several interviews, but the guy's boring.
	And he's backpedaling because, look, you're a dick.
	If you want to have a white culture group, fine, no problem.
	But you know that this kind of behavior is going to make you look stupid.
	You know that.
	And now what he's saying, the message everywhere is, Well, this was ironic.
	It was a joke.
	People were just exuberant, and they were happy.
	And, you know, he said, hail Trump, we're happy.
	It has nothing to do with white nationalism.
	And so some people go, hail, hail Trump, which we do that with hail Apple.
	And let's be honest, the song that is played when the president comes in is hail to the chief.
	So it's not like the word hail and what they call the Roman salute is completely out of the ordinary.
	Yeah, good point about the hail to the chief.
	Yeah, I mean, that's our song, hail to the chief.
	So, you know, but for this confusion that they've created, they're a bunch of a-holes.
	It's stupid.
	You know better than that.
	And if you don't, you're an idiot.
	And I listen to the guy listening to me asked to say, and it doesn't interest me.
	There's too much undertone.
	I really don't like it.
	I really don't.
	But it could be a plant.
	Yeah, but they have a point.
	They have a point about what they're doing.
	It's just the way the media immediately portrayed that was as if there's a bunch of crazy racists out there, and of course they want the president-elect to stand on a podium, some podium, national platform, something big, and say, everyone who hates, I hate them, or something.
	I'm not quite sure what they want.
	I think you should just put a one-line quote on the front of his website saying, I denounce white supremacy.
	Done.
	Good idea.
	And it's on the page one of the website.
	You said go to trump.com, you'll see.
	I'm going to put it right now.
	It's donaldjtrump.com.
	I'm going to write that down.
	One-liner, right, because he has the damn, what is it, he's selling t-shirts and hats still before you hit the site with a splash page.
	So put it right there.
	I should make t-shirts.
	I denounce racism.
	Then you just refer to the website.
	It's on the website.
	What more can I do?
	What's more powerful than that?
	Make new hats.
	Make new hats?
	Make a new hat.
	Make America great again.
	Make America great again.
	I don't like the racists.
	Do something, please.
	Yeah, because we're sick of this.
	But I'm also sick of everyone being called a racist for everything.
	There's nothing wrong with people wanting to explore their European identity.
	There is a lot wrong with setting yourself up for being called a Nazi.
	You're just morons.
	Stupid.
	Stupid.
	And I think that they do it to get attention.
	I don't like any of that.
	I don't like them.
	I don't like it.
	I think we got the point.
	Okay, all right.
	But perhaps much more important than any of that is what took place in the European Union this week.
	A number of very important votes and a resolution.
	And it is indeed the resolution that we need to speak about.
	Okay, but can we start, can I intro that with the question time that happened?
	It's about stalling Brexit in the Parliament?
	It has nothing to do with my clip, but sure.
	It might, I bet you it leads into it.
	Okay, all right.
	Thank you, Mr Speaker.
	On the 23rd of June, my constituents voted by a margin of 62% to 38% to leave the European Union.
	Many of those people are unhappy and frustrated.
	And what they see are delaying tactics by some Remainers who don't seem to understand the meaning of the word democracy.
	Order, this is very discourteous.
	It's very discourteous.
	The Honourable Gentleman has a legitimate question.
	And that question, and every other question, should be fully and with politeness heard.
	The Honourable Gentleman.
	Thank you, Mr Speaker.
	And I will repeat it.
	Who don't seem to understand the meaning of the word democracy, which I would remind them, is government by the people, especially rule of the majority.
	With that in mind, what reassurance can my right honourable friend give my constituents and me that Article 50 will be triggered by March next year?
	I'm clear that we will trigger Article 50 by the end of March next year.
	But my honourable friend is absolutely right to make the key point.
	A referendum was decided by this Parliament, 6 to 1, that the people should have the opportunity to vote on membership of the European Union.
	The vote was held, the turnout was high, the public gave their verdict.
	There must be no second referendum, no attempt to weasel out of this.
	This is the government that will deliver on the vote of the British people.
	Well, that's nice.
	That's good.
	Bull crap.
	And I was right.
	It has nothing to do with what I'm about to do.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	That's okay.
	Actually, halfway through the clip, I realized it was the case because you're not going to be talking about Brexit.
	No.
	At least it's out of the way.
	I don't have any more to say about Brexit.
	It's all good.
	It's all good.
	No, the European Parliament, MEPs, who have pretty much zero power, but they still do things like pass resolutions.
	Based upon the resolutions, things start to happen.
	Mainly money starts to happen.
	Money happens.
	I think I know, yeah.
	I do have a clip to back you up if you're done, because I know what you're going to do.
	Now I know where you're going.
	Russia and Islamist terrorist groups are increasingly targeting the EU with propaganda.
	This the warning in a resolution approved by MEPs which aims to combat anti-Europe campaigns.
	It says Moscow spreads propaganda through media and other means, seeking to incite fear and divide.
	To explain how various Russian entities, Russia TV, Sputnik and so on, are trying to influence the audience in Europe.
	They are trying to split Europe and the United States.
	They are trying to The resolution says propaganda aims to discredit EU institutions.
	Moscow has been quick to react, with President Putin claiming the move says a lot about democracy in the West.
	We're observing some totally obvious degradation, he says, in the political sense of this word.
	Of the perception of democracy in Western society, in this case at the level of the European Parliament.
	MEP say Russia has stepped up its anti-EU propaganda since annexing Crimea.
	They're now suggesting more awareness raising, education and investigative journalism.
	So, obviously, there's a lot going on in this resolution that is a problem.
	And before we get to that, one of the targeted organizations that this resolution was created for is, of course, Russia Today.
	Here's RT's editor-in-chief.
	We, of course, are extremely disappointed, and this is really outrageous.
	We are disappointed at how easily the European establishment gives away its own principles, the principles that we've been hearing for ages, for decades, the principles about which Russia has been lectured for years, Freedom of speech is not really needed and looks scary to Europeans themselves.
	This is very, very sad.
	Very, very sad, yes.
	And, of course, this is a fine case of what you say to yourself, but you cope do the health.
	Because we know that there's tons of propaganda outfits that are certainly funded by the United States, Voice of America, just to mention one.
	But anyway, John, I thought it would be fun to run through this resolution.
	Yes, I, yeah.
	You were afraid of it.
	You already knew it was coming, didn't you?
	Here we go.
	This is the motion for a European Parliament resolution on EU strategic communication to counteract propaganda against it by third parties.
	So they always have a lot of whereas as an assumption.
	So here's some of the assumptions.
	Whereas the EU as member states and citizens are under growing systematic pressure to tackle information, disinformation and misinformation campaigns and propaganda from countries and non-state actors, such as transnational terrorist and criminal organizations in his neighborhood, which are intended to undermine the very notion of objective such as transnational terrorist and criminal organizations in his neighborhood, which are intended to undermine the very notion of objective information or ethical journalism, casting all information as biased or as an instrument of This is some serious shit, man.
	Whereas media freedom, access to information and freedom of expression, Really?
	You can see where this is leading, can't you?
	Yes.
	Whereas information warfare is a historical phenomenon as old as warfare itself.
	Whereas targeted information warfare against the West...
	Is Thor mad?
	I thought the sound effect would be appropriate.
	Whereas with Russia's annexation of Crimea and the Russian-led hybrid war in the Donbass, the Kremlin has escalated the confrontation with the EU.
	Whereas the Kremlin has stepped up its propaganda order.
	Putin!
	an enhanced role in the European media environment aimed at creating political support in European public opinion for Russian action and undermining the coherence of EU foreign policy.
	This is the F Russia bill resolution, I should say.
	They can't tell their side of the story, I guess.
	Whereas the financial crisis and the advance of new forms of digital media have posed serious challenges for, quote, quality journalism, leading to a decrease in critical thinking among audiences, thus making them more susceptible to disinformation and manipulation.
	We're under attack!
	I guess.
	Whereas the propaganda war and the intrusion of Russian media is particularly strong and often unmatched in the countries of the eastern neighborhood.
	Okay, now we're going to go down a bit here.
	So what?
	What do you mean, so what?
	So what is that?
	I think they're trying to imply that the Russians don't have the same side of opportunity.
	They're not playing the BBC on the Kremlin TV. Well, they're saying that the Russians...
	This is all anti-Russia.
	Recognizes that the Russian government is aggressively employing a wide range of tools and instruments, such as think tanks and special foundations, special authorities, multilingual TV stations, pseudo-news agencies and multimedia services, cross-borders social and religious groups, as the regime wants to present itself as the only cross-borders social and religious groups, as the regime wants to present itself as the only Social media and internet trolls...
	To challenge the democratic values, divide Europe.
	Okay.
	Now let's get to some of the things we want to do.
	Okay.
	So wait, let's just stop for a second.
	You're talking about a syndicate, media syndicate, like Sputnik.
	Yes.
	Which I would recommend people follow.
	And they actually name Sputnik by name.
	Yes, Sputnik.
	And then an obscure on the Dish Network, for example, is Channel 280.
	An obscure news outlet called RT is, this is a huge threat to the machine in Europe.
	Uh-huh.
	Mm-hmm.
	It is.
	So then they talk about the Action Plan on Strategic Communication, and it's actually called the Joint Framework on Countering Hybrid Threats, which I'm not going to get into now.
	But here are some of the things they need.
	Emphasis that more funding is necessary to support freedom of the media and In the European neighborhood policy countries within the scope of EU democracy instruments.
	Calls on the Commission in this respect to ensure the full exploitation of existing instruments such as the European Instrument for Democracy and Human Rights, the Eastern Media Partnership Media Freedom Watch, and the EED with regard to protection of media freedom and pluralism.
	So they got groups to do this.
	underlies a need to strengthen media plurality and objectivity impartiality and independence of the media within the EU and its neighborhood, including non-state actors inter alia through support for journalists, and the development of capacity-building programs for media actors, fostering and the development of capacity-building programs for media actors, fostering information exchange partnerships and networks such as content-sharing platforms, media-related research, mobility and training opportunities for journalists, and placements with EU-based media to mobility and training opportunities for
	They want to control journalism.
	The licensing comes next.
	Highlight the important role of quality journalism education and training inside and outside the EU in order to produce quality journalistic analysis and high editorial standards.
	Let's get to the last few ones here.
	This resolution underlines that incitement of hatred, violence, or war cannot hide behind freedom of expression, encourages legal initiatives to be taken in this regard to provide more accountability when dealing with disinformation.
	That means judicial.
	Oh.
	Legal initiatives to be taken in this regard.
	So there's speech, but speech that has to be legislated.
	Yeah, this is leading again to licensing.
	And here we go, the final one, I think.
	Resolution calls on the Commission to advance certain legal initiatives in order to be more effective and accountable in dealing with disinformation and propaganda and to use the midterm review of the European Neighborhood Instrument to promote the strengthening of the resilience of the media as a strategic priority.
	calls on the Commission to conduct a thorough review of the efficiency of existing EU financial instruments, so they're looking at do we have the money, and to come forward with a proposal for a comprehensive and flexible solution which can provide direct support, direct financial support, to independent media outlets,
	think tanks, and NGOs, especially in the target group native language, and enabling the channeling of additional resources to organizations that have the ability to do so, such as the European Endowment for Democracy, And they also say, we should be curtailing financial flows aimed at financing individuals and entities engaged in STRATCOM activities, incitement to violence, and hatred.
	Calls on the Commission to conduct a thorough audit of the efficiency of certain big-scale media projects funded by the EU, such as Euronews.
	This is astounding to me.
	Astounding.
	Is it astounding, but is it a surprise?
	No, not to me.
	But they're codifying this.
	What's astounding is, where's the outrage?
	Oh, no one's going to read this.
	And by the way, shouldn't we receive some of this funding if they're going to be giving it to independent media producers who are trying to give everyone a fair shake?
	You know, that's what you'd think.
	But it turns out, in all these things, we've noticed this before, Well, they talk a big game about giving money to this guy.
	They're only going to give money to outlets that have been pre-approved, run by their pals, with a specific agenda that meets their needs.
	They're not going to give money to any other people other than this corrupt little core group.
	And when you give direct financing, which is coming directly from the European financial instruments...
	When you're funding journalists, teaching journalists, what are you teaching them?
	Doesn't anyone have a concern with this?
	I know.
	I'm asking.
	There was a minority opinion.
	This passed this resolution.
	It doesn't mean for what it means.
	But there was a minority opinion.
	So the minority votes had a couple lines here.
	They say, we have a problem with this.
	This report identifies two threats regarding propaganda.
	A state actor, namely Russia, and terrorist groups such as Daesh.
	And there's a whole section on ISIL and Daesh.
	Um.
	So they say it is irresponsible to place a state like Russia on the same level of threat as Daesh.
	Totally agree.
	Promotes the EU race for free trade agreements in East neighborhood and beyond promoting this an escalation of tensions with Russia and its Eurasian Economic Union.
	Yeah, of course it's raising tensions with Russia.
	It does not recognize its own propaganda on EU democracy as the only one possible, which highlights a presumed superiority that may be offensive, and it pledges paradoxically for independent medias to be supported by the EU. Yes, absolutely.
	And it's very rude.
	Very rude towards Russia.
	I don't know what the deal is.
	I know what the deal is.
	Complete control.
	What do you mean you don't know what the deal is?
	It's complete control.
	Well, that's, I guess, the deal and the pipelines.
	Well, today though...
	Well, before you stay on this topic for just another second, C-SPAN had this little meeting at the Aspen Institute.
	Oh, yeah.
	Run by the guy.
	It seems to write way too many books for a guy.
	Who was hosting?
	Was it one of like...
	No, it was the guy.
	It was the guy.
	The guy who wrote the Steve Jobs book.
	What's his name?
	Oh, yeah, that guy.
	The guy who runs the Aspen Institute, he was hosting.
	It was a bunch of journalists, and they were asking each one of them, well, how do you keep political bias out of the reporting?
	And nobody had a good answer.
	And then the worst guy, of course, was Marty Barron, the guy who runs the Washington Post, which is completely...
	You know, biased to the point where Trump had to kick him off.
	They couldn't even let him get credentialed.
	So they had to wait in line at the Trump rallies, like everybody else, to get in.
	And they did.
	And they bitched about it because they wanted their special treatment.
	But I thought you might want to hear what Marty Baron says about this.
	Or would Google on news?
	Google had a representative talking about how they deal with bias and how they keep it out.
	Okay, let's do the Marty Barron first.
	Okay.
	So I don't think that we will ever escape allegations that we suffer from political bias because that's just the nature of the environment at the moment, particularly during a presidential campaign.
	But I don't even...
	And we do have layers of editing where people act as internal checks on others if they detect a bias in stories and we endeavor to guard against it.
	That's not what the editorial levels are about.
	What are editorial levels about?
	To keep the facts straight.
	Not to show bias.
	It's not about bias.
	The bias sneaks in anyway.
	It's to make sure that you're using the right words and all that the piece reads well and it doesn't have a buried lead.
	And you have different people looking at it in New York Times.
	They used to have more people like you'd go through three or four people.
	So what you're saying is the job is not to stop...
	not to stop bias.
	And we do have layers of editing where people act as internal checks on others.
	If they detect a bias and stories and we endeavor to guard against it.
	And it's part of our, uh, code of, uh, code of ethics and part of our principles at the post.
	Um, the way that I see it is our mission is that we need to be honest, honorable, and fair in our reporting.
	And fairness involves being open to what people are saying, listening to them closely, giving them a hearing and a fair hearing.
	But ultimately, we do the reporting.
	And then we have an obligation to tell people in a very straightforward way what it is we found, what the evidence actually shows.
	And not to pussyfoot about it and not to be timid about it and to tell people exactly what the evidence shows and tell it to them straight.
	And when we talk about fairness, my view is let's be fair to the public, too.
	And that's part of being fair to the public, is telling them in a straightforward way what the results of our reporting were, what we found.
	And so I believe that that's absolutely central to our mission.
	I don't think that we should shy from that, and I don't think that we should shy from it simply because someone, as a result, may accuse us of political bias.
	Guarding your reality from things we find inconvenient.
	This is Fake News.
	Yeah, pretty good.
	Another William Stagno.
	Alright.
	Now the Google guy?
	Yeah, the Google girl.
	Oh, Google girl.
	Who is she?
	Do we know?
	Nah, she's just another...
	I don't even think as I listen to her that she knows what she's talking about.
	She's just one of these kind of...
	Pretty spokesperson for the company and representing with some high position.
	I think from Google's perspective, we're not a news organization.
	Google's mission, however, is to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful, which is not dissimilar from many news organizations.
	Their mission was to make money off of advertising.
	No, that was always their mission.
	That was always their mission, I think.
	That's what they've always said.
	Yeah, that has nothing to do with going to Mars.
	...accessible and useful, which is not dissimilar from many news organizations.
	But because many, many people around the world come to Google for information, we absolutely cannot have any type of bias whatsoever.
	And I think that what you see on Google Search, what you see on Google News, it's algorithmically generated and is meant to show...
	Whatever news articles, you know, the algorithm, you know, surfaces.
	Real quick, Olivia.
	Can algorithms have biases?
	Well, I think, right.
	I mean, obviously there is a human being who's creating those algorithms, and I think that's something that has been...
	Bullshit.
	A healthy topic of discussion and a very valid one, which is that every algorithm is a series of choices, but there are literally hundreds of signals going into Google search results.
	I mean, it's not a simple matter by any means.
	In fact, it's still complex and it changes every week, so we can't even describe what all the different factors are that go into it, but it's many, many.
	Many, many, many, many, many, many.
	Penguin.
	Many, many.
	It's important that when you come to Google, you are able to get information across many, many different perspectives.
	Many, many.
	Different news organizations with different political leanings.
	Many, many.
	Or, to Sterling's point, first-person perspectives, if you go on YouTube.
	I mean, I think we are meant to be a portal for the world's information, and that can mean a lot of different things.
	Many, many.
	Many, many, many.
	Fake news.
	Made up.
	False stories.
	Fake news.
	Unreliable source of fake news.
	Sound bites and snippets.
	Fake news.
	Fake news infects the left and the right.
	That's right, Tom Starkweather.
	Good work.
	Yeah, something about that.
	There was an article in the New York Times regarding this very issue, and I totally disagree with what she said.
	There's many, many algorithms, many, many bullshit.
	Here's the problem with the algorithms.
	It's destroying you.
	And this is written by Jenna Wortham.
	And I won't read the whole article, but she says...
	And I shouldn't be surprised that Donald Trump could be elected president, but I was.
	I live in Brooklyn and work in Manhattan, two of the most liberal places in the country, but even online I wasn't seeing many signs of support for him.
	How did that blindness occur?
	Social media is my portal into the rest of the world, my periscope into the communities next to my community, into how the rest of the world thinks and feels.
	And it completely failed me.
	So what she says, I'll actually read this next little piece here.
	Each time I, in hindsight, that failure makes sense.
	I spent nearly 10 years coaching Facebook and Instagram and Twitter on what kinds of news and photos I don't want to see, and they all behaved accordingly.
	Each time I liked an article, or clicked on a link, or hid another, the algorithms that curate my streams took notice and showed me only what they thought I wanted to see.
	That meant I didn't realize that most of my family members who live in rural Virginia were voicing their support for Trump Online.
	I didn't see any of the pro-Trump memes that were in heavy circulation before the election.
	I never saw a Trump hat or sign or t-shirt in my feeds.
	And the only election day selfies I saw were of people declaring their support for Hillary Clinton.
	And that is, and it goes on, it's a good article, that is the problem.
	You created your own little echo chamber with the algorithm.
	That's why these things are not good.
	You have no serendipity, but that's not what the Google lady is going to say.
	And this is exactly what I said, I think, two shows ago, that this will eventually remove advertisers' desire to even be on the social networks.
	It'll be too narrow a band of interest.
	Well, that's what they've always been wanting.
	I know, but, you know...
	They talk a big game about the narrow band, but then when it comes down to it, they, well, maybe get some new customers.
	Those people already bought our product.
	Yeah.
	Well, thanks for saving my two clips.
	What do you mean saving them?
	I'd like to...
	You saved my clips.
	They were pointless!
	No, they weren't.
	I want to take a break, but I have a couple things to catch up on.
	I also want to tease the after the break.
	I'm going to talk a little bit about Thanksgiving.
	Of course you are.
	But not the same old story.
	I'm going to beef it up.
	With my current pet peeve.
	I like it.
	Good, good, good.
	Okay.
	Many, many.
	Michael Flynn.
	So, you know, we deconstruct these things, like Pence, and on the last show, you did a pretty good deconstruction of how the fake news, known, I think that was, was that NBC maybe?
	Made it sound like Mike Pence called all of Islam a cancer, where he was really talking about radical Islamic cancer, yes.
	So, I found a more recent clip, and he's got to watch it.
	He's got to watch it.
	You can interpret this clip however you want, but I think he did not do a good job.
	And if this is what he really means, yeah, it's a big uh-oh.
	I like Flynn, but this is not okay.
	Islam is a political ideology.
	It is a political ideology.
	It definitely hides behind this notion of it being a religion.
	And I have a very, very tough time because I don't see a lot of people screaming Jesus Christ with hatchets or machetes or rifles shooting up clubs or hatcheting, literally axing families on a train.
	Or like they just killed a couple of police officers with a machete.
	I mean, it's just unbelievable.
	So we have a problem.
	It's like cancer.
	I've gone through cancer in my own life.
	Okay, so it's like cancer.
	And it's like a malignant cancer, though, in this case.
	It has metastasized.
	So like I just said, in the number of attacks in 22 countries in just the last 45 days, I mean, when I look back over the last, you know, 10 years or 15 years of my life, and the things that I've seen and the things that I've witnessed against this very vicious threat.
	So, if he had started off by saying radical Islam, or radical Islamic terrorism, but he didn't do that.
	He didn't do that.
	So, I'd like to know what he really means.
	Didn't like it.
	That's not okay.
	Well, he'll be a little more...
	I didn't mind it at all, but he'll be a little more circumspect, I think, now that he's got a job.
	Then, you know, Trump is meeting people, they're coming into his golf club, I guess, in New Jersey, and I could not be happier That Tulsi Gabbard went to see Trump.
	You know, I have a...
	I love this girl, this woman.
	And if there was to be a female president, she needs years...
	She needs to get some experience in what she's doing.
	You know, eventually, maybe eight years.
	She's your fave.
	Yeah!
	I like her a lot.
	She's a Democrat with, you know, who doesn't take any crap.
	And so she went to see Trump, and of course, she's now an Uncle Tom.
	Yeah.
	She is.
	Uncle Tom.
	And so this is Chris Matthews talking about that meeting with Howard Dean, the guy who called Trump a Nazi.
	And he says something here.
	It's a political quip.
	Maybe that's the right word.
	Quip.
	Quip is like a little stinging joke.
	Like a little comment.
	It's meant to be funny.
	And I can remember I distinctly recall this kind of quip Being made in my family around Thanksgiving when we had a lot of, you know, the intelligence people in the room because it would be Uncle Bob would be there and everything.
	So that would be a cool whip.
	Yeah, cool whip.
	Cool whip.
	We could do that gag for an hour.
	Whip.
	And you'll hear it.
	I was like, holy crap, that's political bullcrap jokes if I ever heard one.
	Thank you.
	Well, today Trump met with Democratic Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii.
	This is amazing what's going on here.
	Gabbert released a statement after the meeting saying, while the rules of political expediency would say I should have refused to meet with President-elect Trump, I never have and never will play politics with American and Syrian lives.
	For years, the issue of ending interventions, regime change, warfare has been one of my top priorities.
	Let me be clear.
	I will never allow partisanship to undermine our national security when the lives of countless people land about.
	There's a woman, a politician, Kelsey, who is very anti-intervention, like yourself.
	What about this Middle East thing?
	She's against the whole regime change number.
	And now she's going there with a way of maybe saying, maybe we can cut a deal with Russia.
	Maybe there is a way to somehow end the bloodshed in Syria and keep us out.
	Well, I mean, she's an interesting person.
	The people from Hawaii basically have her tabbed as extremely ambitious with flexible principles.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	I mean, she was a lefty for Bernie, and now she's talking about running against Maisie Hirono, who's a left-wing or liberal senator from Hawaii.
	So who knows what this is all about?
	Extremely ambitious with flexible principles.
	That is...
	It just hit me.
	That is such a typical...
	Beltway insider bullcrap thing to say.
	Quip.
	Quip.
	Yes, it's a quip.
	Really?
	Oh, man.
	It's talking about celebrate.
	That should be celebrated.
	It's fantastic that he's doing that.
	Before we go to break, I want to play one more of our entries for the Suck It Up Buttercup jingle.
	Uh-huh.
	Which has been just fabulous.
	Everyone has done such a great job.
	But we will be critiquing them.
	This one will take us into the break job.
	This is original music, I believe, which is quite impressive.
	And this one comes to us from Tyler and Kyle.
	Suck it up, Buttercup.
	Suck it up, Buttercup.
	There you go.
	There you go.
	A resolute ending.
	What do you think?
	I like it.
	I think...
	I've got the kind of whiny voice I think that works.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It has a good beat.
	It has a great beat.
	The vocals could be a little clearer.
	That's the main problem I had.
	I didn't have too much trouble understanding them.
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	Bert Beavis or Beavis?
	I think it's Beavis.
	Walter Graham, Parts Unknown.
	Baroness Janice Kang in Milpitas.
	Robert Gusek in High Point, North Carolina.
	Stephen Whalen in Milford.
	Milford, Michigan?
	Yeah, Michigan.
	Milford.
	That was cute.
	I just came up with it.
	Ad-libbing.
	Anonymous.
	Christopher Pythood.
	Christoph Pythood.
	P-A-Y-T-H-O-U-D. Kaylin Nistor.
	Chris Eisbach in Cheshire, Connecticut.
	Aaron Huber in Tel Aviv.
	Ah, and he met the berg, state et bruit.
	Chip Tangen.
	Tangen. Tangen.
	T-A-N-G-E-N. Intergove Heights, Minnesota Nuts.
	Tangen.
	Sir Brian Warden in Downs, Illinois.
	Scott Penton in Tonawanda, New York.
	James Mills.
	Parts unknown.
	Jean-Claude Schmid.
	I think we know where he comes from, but I'm not sure...
	I think he's also a sir.
	Shiloh Brown.
	Michael Sislo.
	He has a call out.
	Please call Paul Rudkin a wanker.
	No, no, no.
	We don't do that.
	We only do douchebags.
	Yeah, we only do douchebags.
	No wankers.
	No wanker stuff, man.
	That was Michael Sislo?
	Yeah.
	Sir Jeffrey Yerke over here.
	Again, doesn't show up, but I think he lives in Concord.
	Eric Von Martyr, another missing city.
	Gabriel Shabazian in San Francisco.
	Pedro Villafon, which I think is a sir.
	And again, no city.
	Tyler Stewart, no city.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Pedro and Tyler are both 88.00.
	So we're done with a little 88.
	So it wasn't that many.
	Oh, and then we have...
	Oh, and then we have...
	Boobs.
	Yeah, we have two.
	Two boobs.
	Two boobs.
	Zachary Gilbreck and Michael Montez.
	Was this a clickable boob link?
	Yes, it was.
	Let me guess.
	Who was it?
	I think it was the Hillary picture.
	That's what I thought, yeah.
	Ite Zezkely.
	Zezkely.
	I'm guessing Zezkely.
	Ite Zezkely.
	It's from Teleview.
	Ite Zezkely.
	804.
	I don't know what that is.
	Is this meaningful?
	It's a Jew thing.
	Shortchanging us.
	Come on!
	Come on!
	It's a good one.
	It's funny.
	Sean Zinsmeister.
	I would have never thought of it, though.
	Sean Zinsmeister, 60.
	David Phillips, or Sir David Phillips in Pomeroy, Washington, 5556.
	Sir Kevin Payne in Richmond, Virginia, 5432.
	Sean DeSantis in Fort Pierce, Florida, 5088.
	Sir Brian Kaufman in Phoenix, Arizona, 5050.
	Tim Hazel.
	Hazel.
	It's 50-25, and he says, 50-25 means absolutely nothing to anyone.
	At least he's honest.
	And now the following people are $50 donors, name and location, Joe Schwartzbauer in Florissant, Missouri, Mitchell Kaufman in Hillsboro, Oregon, Daniel Laboy in Bath, Michigan, Christina Williams in Dallas, Texas Patrick Sir Patrick Madcom in New York City Brendan Mink who I think maybe a sir I forgot Jason he's in Tempe Arizona Jason Daniels parts unknown Chris Whitten
	parts unknown Jacob Shaw parts unknown oh no he's in Yukon Oklahoma Andrew Beard in Powhat in Virginia Sandy Geisler in Sir Bodan LeHendro in Roanoke, Texas.
	And last but not least, our buddy over here in Oakland, Sir Benjamin Smith.
	And that concludes our list of producers and well-wishers for show.
	880.
	880!
	Yes, and thank you.
	Thank you, everybody, for...
	That's what I'm thankful for.
	I'm very thankful for the No Agenda family, the community that you have created for our producers who help us in so many ways.
	I'm also thankful, of course, for my daughter and for Tina the Keeper and her daughters, and I'm thankful for you, John, and your family, of course.
	But this is life, and it makes life work, and I'm thankful.
	I'm thankful for it.
	Do you have any thankful thoughts?
	I'm thankful, and I want to thank all the people who gave lesser amounts that don't necessarily get credited.
	But we're aware of you, and if you write notes in there on your thing, we read them.
	We do read them.
	Sometimes out loud, but we try to keep it anonymous.
	And, of course, we'll be back with another show on Sunday.
	So remember us at...
	For those of you who need any special karma, I've got it for you right here.
	You've got karma.
	What?
	Shortlist today, Matt Kieschrout says happy birthday to his daughter Ella, brand new human resource, and Tyler Stewart says happy birthday to his human resource, Maury turning to, I guess, today.
	We say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
	One, two, three, two knighthoods, one damehood, always nice.
	Whoops, sorry.
	Hold on, I went a little too fast.
	Ow.
	I sliced my thumb.
	I got one.
	Oh, man.
	Okay, there we go.
	Special Thanksgiving inauguration of our Knights and Dame.
	Like Mark Power, Amy Poussounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounounoun Sir Marcos, Dracos of Deep Thoughts, Dame Amy of the Punu, and Sir James of Cornucopia.
	For you, we've got hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, half eggs and lee sauce, cheap wine and chili dogs, geishas and sake, bong hits and bourbon, breast milk and pablum, ginger ale and gerbils, and, of course, mutton and mead.
	And if you'd like to pick all of that up and get your rings, head on over, the three of you, so you can go together.
	To knowagendanation.com slash rings.
	And Eric the Show will take care of that for you.
	Thank you, thank you, thank you again.
	And I also say thank you to Joshkin for his entry with the Suck It Up Buttercup song.
	Why don't you suck it up, suck it up, buttercup, baby, and just throw a pair?
	Because life isn't fair, and what's more is when you need to take a break from your sense of faith.
	You've got a special stuff like I know it's hard to wake up and find the world doesn't matter about you.
	So suck it up, suck it up, buttercup, that's what grown-ups do.
	I like the...
	A little mid...
	A little late 50s sound.
	A little maybe mid 60s sound.
	They got a little doo-wop in there.
	Not much.
	You could have used more.
	I did like the...
	Why don't you grow a pair?
	I thought that was a good lyric.
	Why don't you grow a pair?
	Grow a pair.
	Grow a pair, baby.
	Okay.
	I need to say one thing.
	Because people are getting very angry at me specifically.
	And it's bothering me.
	Okay.
	Pizzagate.
	Oh, Pizzagate.
	People need to understand that for nine years, nine years, I have been all over every single pedo-bear, pedo-ring story there is.
	Longer than that.
	And you bring it into this show often.
	Yes.
	You've got a complete pass on this.
	Yeah.
	So nobody should be complaining.
	This is an example of the hallucinations of the other side.
	You are hallucinating.
	There's all kinds of creepy pictures on the internet.
	Congratulations, you found them.
	There's all kinds of creepy art.
	There's all kinds of things going on.
	I just have not seen any actual proof.
	When I looked at Dutroux, when I looked at the Rolodex files, when I looked at the Isle of Jersey, I looked into the Bush White House.
	Boys Town.
	Boys Town.
	We've been talking about Boys Town, the documentary, for years.
	I'm telling you, you're fooling yourself...
	Until I see some actual evidence, it's just not there.
	People keep saying the following thing.
	Well, it's weird coincidences.
	You're not connecting the dots.
	Well, I connect the dots.
	It's what I do.
	And people are saying that I'm compromised.
	I'm probably a pedophile.
	I get the most horrible things.
	Horrible.
	I'm not donating anymore.
	I get a lot of that too.
	As usual, those people never donated in the first place.
	Of course.
	Which irks me.
	But what's sad is that I'm actually the guy who does this all the time.
	Yeah, a lot more than I do.
	You've actually privately said, yeah, back off a little bit.
	I can remember that distinctly.
	That was years ago.
	Yeah.
	Well, I was doing a lot of it.
	That's because you were getting carried away.
	Yeah.
	You were.
	Yeah.
	That's how much you were doing it.
	Yeah.
	But you really go down the rabbit hole.
	And I got into an argument with Ancilla.
	Just to show you.
	Oh, yes.
	Yes, you would.
	And here's what happened.
	So she says, Pizzagate.
	And I text her back.
	I said, yeah, I just don't see any evidence.
	And she comes out with the whole thing.
	But look at the creepy pictures.
	And here's an article that sums it up.
	And nothing sums it up other than there's creepy pictures.
	And it's around this pizza pool place.
	And Podesta went there and had a pizza party.
	You're creating something that there is no real evidence for.
	And so I said, well, you know, to be honest, Ancilla, if someone only had pictures of you, like your Instagram, the way it used to be, because she was a fetish model, I'm pretty sure they could come up with a whole storyline about you.
	Oh, that would have pissed her off.
	Oh, my God.
	I said, you're insulting.
	I'm just trying to give an example.
	Yeah.
	So, anyway, just so you know, I have looked at this very extensively, very extensively.
	I mean, the funniest one is where they have so-called sketches from the Madeline McCann abductors in Portugal, if you remember that case from 10, 11 years ago.
	And it looks just like Tony and John Podesta.
	Yeah, because they looked like that 10 years ago.
	I mean, it's just crazy.
	It's crazy.
	And I'm sorry.
	Don't forget, anyone has a problem, Adam at Curry.com.
	Yeah.
	He's ignoring the obvious, the Pizzagate disaster, and just keep hounding him.
	Thank you.
	It's a part of my brand.
	That's right.
	Part of my brand.
	So I'm sorry.
	I'm really sorry.
	If you got something, I'm open to it.
	But you don't need to send me the links to the Reddit.
	And you're spinning around.
	Spinning around.
	The kid with their hands taped to the table was the photo.
	The person who took the picture was his kid.
	And it wasn't taped.
	It's all disturbing.
	You can look at anything and think it's disturbing.
	Please.
	Especially those of you who know that there are people, certainly the Hillbots are in complete hallucination world.
	You're in your own with that.
	Believe me, if I could find a way to pin this on Podesta, I would be jumping for joy!
	Yeah, I think you made your point.
	I'll forward some of this crap to you.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Keep talking then.
	You want to talk more?
	Go.
	I don't want to see any of you.
	Oh my God, Ants!
	Alright, here's something that kind of bothers me.
	I do want to get to the Thanksgiving stuff.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I don't know where I got this, but this is an old, at least a year old interview with Hannity.
	This is before the 9-11 28 pages were released.
	And this is Trump.
	Trump, an old interview about 9-11.
	And I'm listening to this thinking...
	Wait a minute.
	We've got a lot of dudes named Ben that help us, and I've been trying to, like over a year ago, I was trying to get access or just view online anything to get a look at the 28 pages.
	Right.
	And you get feedback like, oh no, it's actually, they're going to lock anyone up who even sees this thing.
	You can't get access to it.
	I can't even see it.
	None of the guys that would normally be able to get into this system to just get this report out.
	Nothing.
	Until it came out and we read it, I didn't get to see it.
	But I have the sneaking suspicion that somehow along the lines, Trump Who now, of course, we think maybe allied with the NSA and the FBI. I got to look at this because this report here, this interview he did, having now read the 28 pages, he obviously had a copy of it.
	How did that happen?
	I don't know.
	But it's in this report, I guess.
	Let me ask you this.
	You actually said something that really intrigued me.
	There's still 28 pages of the 9-11 Commission report that have never been revealed.
	I got the impression that you knew something maybe we don't know about the Saudis.
	I think you will find out when that's opened.
	I think you're going to find out that Saudi Arabia had a lot to do with the ripping down of the world.
	Would you open that?
	I think you're going to find that.
	He also used a word, which he's changed in his later commentary, but he used a word in there that That also caught me.
	Wait, let me hear it.
	Is it the end, that little thing he says at the end?
	You'll hear the word in there.
	There's an anomalous word that he uses that you'll pick up on if you're now listening for it.
	Okay, let me listen again.
	Let me ask you this.
	You actually said something that really intrigued me.
	There's still 28 pages of the 9-11 Commission report that have never been revealed.
	I got the impression that you knew something maybe we don't know.
	I think you will find out when that's opened.
	I think you're going to find out that Saudi Arabia had a lot to do with the ripping down of the world.
	Would you open that if you became president?
	With the ripping down?
	Yeah.
	Ripping down.
	Ripping down of the towers?
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	Ha ha ha.
	Ha ha ha ha.
	Borderliner. Borderliner. Borderliner.
	I know where that's...
	See, I'm all in on that, people.
	Ripping down.
	Ripping down.
	Uh-huh.
	Uh-huh.
	Can't say no more, yeah.
	Now, you might as well play part two where he also reiterates his position about the 28 pages and says, yeah, we should release them.
	But I listen to these two clips and say he had the 28 pages.
	How did he get them?
	Go.
	And in all fairness...
	We went after Iraq.
	They did not knock down the World Trade Center, okay?
	It wasn't the Iraqis that knocked down the World Trade Center.
	We went after Iraq.
	We decimated the country.
	Iran's taken over, okay?
	But it wasn't the Iraqis.
	You will find out who really knocked down the World Trade Center because they have papers out there that are very secret.
	You may find it's the Saudis, okay?
	But you will find out.
	Hmm.
	Hmm.
	Uh, yeah.
	Well, I think that...
	And what year was this?
	This was at the beginning of his campaign.
	Very early on.
	I'm sure tons of people had seen it.
	Maybe.
	I went out of my way to get a look at it and I couldn't get anywhere.
	But he sounds like he had a copy he's got in his pocket.
	Here, you want to read it?
	Hey, check this out, will you?
	Okay, now I want to do my Thanksgiving thing.
	Yeah, now you're going to do the Trump thing too?
	What Trump thing?
	I see.
	Oh, I thought you had a...
	Trump did a Thanksgiving meeting video.
	He's been doing videos.
	Did you know he's been doing videos?
	Yeah, he's been doing these videos.
	I find it very tedious.
	He's obviously using a prompter.
	He's not very good at reading from it.
	And he's, you know, it's not this Trump I like.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You would rather him say, hey!
	Yeah, I'd rather him say, hey.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You want the funny guy.
	You want the...
	I want the other Trump.
	I want the other Trump who makes for good clips.
	That Trump.
	Yeah, I want the clippable Trump.
	Yeah, the clippable Trump.
	I agree.
	Hey, come on, Trump.
	So let's start off with Obama trying to do his stand-up routine.
	First of all, anyone who wants to look this up, just to summarize, Thanksgiving is a bogus holiday.
	It was first created during Lincoln's administration as a day of remembrance for the dead soldiers in the Civil War.
	It's called Thanksgiving.
	It's got nothing to do with Indians having a meet-up in Massachusetts.
	It's actually a war remembrance day?
	It started as a war remembrance day, and then it got re-invited, re-started every so often, and it became a national holiday.
	From the 1930s, they tried to make it a holiday, and then I think it was finally codified as one, maybe during the ice.
	It's all in the documentation.
	You go to dvorak.org slash blog and look up Thanksgiving.
	There's two or three articles I wrote on it.
	But it's now, of course, transitioned to a sales event.
	Well, now it's the sales of it.
	That's true.
	When I was a kid, I never heard of Black Friday.
	But this thing about the Indians and it's a Thanksgiving for whatever, I don't know, it's all made up.
	It's a bullcrap holiday.
	I've hated Thanksgiving for years.
	I've always hated it.
	I don't like having the big dinner.
	I don't like having to always cook turkey.
	No, not true.
	Not true.
	You once cooked a goose.
	I have cooked a goose once.
	But a goose is more traditional with red cabbage on Christmas.
	And it's kind of a German thing.
	And goose, by the way, is a fantastic bird to eat.
	Yes.
	Not to keep as a pet.
	They're not good as pets.
	Well, you can keep them as a pet, but they're very mean.
	And noisy.
	So let's start with Thanksgiving.
	Yes.
	Thanksgiving Obama stand-up routine.
	Let's get this out of the way.
	So much, everybody.
	Please have a seat.
	Have a seat.
	For generations, presidents have faithfully executed two great American traditions, issuing a proclamation that sets aside a Thursday in November for us to express gratitude, and granting pardons that reflect our beliefs in second chances.
	And this week, we do both.
	Of course, Thanksgiving is a family holiday as much as a national one.
	So for the past seven years, I've established another tradition.
	Embarrassing my daughters with a cornucopia of dad jokes about turkeys.
	This year, they had a scheduling conflict.
	Actually, they just couldn't take my jokes anymore.
	They were fed up.
	Fortunately, I have by my side, here today, two of my nephews, Austin and Aaron Robinson, who, unlike Malie and Sasha, have not yet been turned cynical by Washington.
	They still believe in bad puns.
	They still appreciate the grandeur of this occasion.
	They still have hope.
	Malia and Sasha, by the way, are thankful that this is my final presidential turkey pardon.
	What I haven't told them yet is that we are going to do this every year from now on.
	No cameras, just us, every year.
	No way I'm cutting this habit cold turkey.
	Thanks Obama.
	Worst thing ever.
	Yeah.
	So I listened to this thing where he used the word...
	Wait, did the joke writers already leave the administration?
	Is that the idea?
	I think so.
	This was not material that I think anybody would pay for.
	It was terrible.
	No.
	But he used the word generations.
	Generations, which implies at least 60 years, because that's...
	You can't do generations, 30 years or so.
	60 years would be too.
	So for 60, more than 60 years, they've been pardoning turkeys.
	Yes.
	Well...
	I've been questioning some of this.
	So I'm listening to this thing here.
	Listen to this Thanksgiving.
	Just a second, because I don't know if everyone realizes outside of the United States that, you know, as a part of the Bogut of whole idea, you know, it became a war on Turkey Day and everyone has to eat turkey.
	And then for some unknown reason, which I think we're going to find out now, the president of the United States, for as long as I can remember, has pardoned Turkey.
	So we're not going to kill you.
	Yeah.
	Which is an odd thing.
	Although I've always felt it fits with our bloodthirsty nature.
	I think so, too.
	So we got a bogus holiday.
	Now we have this bull crap about pardoning turkeys.
	This really galled me.
	And then you hear stuff like this.
	Here's the replay of this clip.
	This is Thanksgiving.
	More BS. CNBC. Live out the rest of their days on Virginia Tech's Gobbler's Rest exhibit.
	Tater and Todd, my all-time favorite turkey names.
	And I've been doing this a long time, so I've done a lot of turkey pardons.
	We've seen a lot of pardons.
	We've seen a lot of turkeys and a lot of pardons.
	One of the great traditions.
	Thank you, Sue.
	Sir Bill, welcome back.
	You know, we could actually...
	I'm sorry, go ahead.
	I'm just sorry.
	One of the great traditions.
	We don't pardon people.
	We just put them on the electric chair.
	But turkeys?
	It's one of our great traditions.
	It's a great tradition.
	John, the question is, is this a great tradition?
	Well, I think I got one more pre-clip.
	Because it turned out...
	I guess I wasn't the only one questioning this bullcrap about the turkey pardons being a great tradition.
	In fact, the tradition of naming the turkeys is only recent.
	And the whole turkey pardoning thing turns out to be bullcrap insofar as bullcrap.
	Generations are concerned or it being a great tradition.
	It's worse than the holiday itself.
	Now, we can play this pre-clip or we can just go right into the explanation, which is a little lengthy.
	But coincidentally, PBS did an investigative report on this and they came up with all the real answers.
	And we can discuss that after we play Thanksgiving More BS Turkey Party.
	Before President Obama and his family gather for Thanksgiving, today he made time for an executive duty, his final pardoning of the turkey as commander-in-chief.
	The annual tradition sees two lucky birds spared from the dinner table, but only one is selected to take part in the ceremony.
	Malia and Sasha, by the way, are thankful that this is my final presidential turkey pardon.
	What I haven't told them yet is that we are going to do this every year from now on.
	No cameras, just us, every year.
	No way I'm cutting this habit cold turkey.
	The tradition has happened every November for the past quarter century.
	But there's debate about how it all got started.
	President Truman was the first president to pardon a turkey.
	But that's not true.
	In fact, the Truman Presidential Library says Truman sometimes indicated to reporters that the turkeys he received were destined for the family dinner table.
	Truman was actually the first president to receive a turkey from the National Turkey Federation.
	So who was the first president to pardon a turkey?
	Lincoln, it appears, was the first on record.
	But it was a Christmas turkey that his son had taken a liking to.
	President John F. Kennedy was the first to pardon a Thanksgiving turkey.
	In 1963, despite a sign hanging around the turkey's neck that read, Good eating, Mr.
	President, Kennedy sent the bird back to the farm.
	Richard Nixon also gave the birds a reprieve, sending his turkeys to a nearby petting zoo.
	Ronald Reagan was the first to use the word pardon when he was talking turkey in 1987.
	The turkey pardoning became formalized in 1989 with President George H.W. Bush.
	Let me assure you in this fine time turkey that he will not end up On anyone's dinner table, not this guy.
	This year, the Spared Birds will be sent to Virginia Tech University, where they already have a prominent gobbler mascot on campus.
	The event has become a White House holiday tradition.
	This is the eighth I've had the privilege to meet and set free in the Rose Garden.
	In 2000, Jerry the turkey from Wisconsin sported a White House pass around his neck.
	Four years later, the Bush administration also had some fun with the event.
	The names of that year's turkeys were chosen in a vote on the White House website.
	This is an election there, and Biscuits had to earn his spot at the White House.
	Biscuits...
	And his running mate, Gravy, prevailed over the ticket of patience and fortitude.
	I hereby pardon you from the Thanksgiving table.
	For his final turkey pardon naming, President Obama took suggestions from the Iowa turkey producers' children and their classmates.
	The winners, Tater and Tot.
	Nice.
	Nice.
	Well, we're up to speed on that.
	This is another load of crap turned into a great tradition for generations.
	That is bullshit.
	And if you're going to say anything, it's Ronald Reagan who really set the thing off in 1987.
	How long ago was that?
	8, 9, 10, 11, 30 years ago?
	One generation.
	I think we can classify it as...
	Fake news!
	Fake news.
	Fake news.
	Wow.
	Everybody, they got all the media goes there and they're all sitting there laughing at the funny jokes.
	I mean, why are you wasting your time on this?
	This is stupid.
	I have an idea for President Trump.
	It's not even cute, by the way.
	Oh, the bird was pardoned.
	I have an idea for President-elect Trump.
	Because he seems to be doing everything differently, which is good.
	It's confusing a lot of people.
	Well, I can think of two things.
	There's another bitch I had about a year ago on this show that's also galling, which is the saluting.
	Well, do that in a moment.
	How about this?
	How about next Thanksgiving?
	I'm okay with the whole thankfulness for our country and God and the Indians and the corn and all that, but I'm okay with that.
	Christmas, you get Santa Claus.
	It's fine.
	It's families come together and we're thankful.
	Why don't we do something really radical?
	You ready?
	You ready?
	I'm just really radical.
	Why doesn't President Trump next year pardon a person?
	Wouldn't that be a crazy experiment?
	Let's take someone who's done something so horrific, we're going to kill him, but we're going to pardon him and see if we can turn him into a good citizen.
	Is that a crazy idea?
	That's nuts.
	Come on.
	I just came up with that.
	I think that's decent.
	Well, that's better than wasting your time pardoning a turkey and spending half a day on this event.
	Yeah.
	Half a day is spent on this event.
	The media comes in, they all sit around laughing at the jokes about cold turkey.
	Wow, that's a funny one.
	Now, what if Donald Trump, President Trump, what if we could convince him to not only do that, but to build our reality show around it, the one we've always wanted, which is to show people getting killed on death row.
	And then you can zoom in, and we do the big fall promotion for our show, then the president will pardon one of our contestants.
	Well, you'd have to have contestants then who's going to get killed.
	Jails are filled with contestants.
	Yeah, that's true.
	He understands the model.
	He totally understands the reality TV show model.
	Absolutely.
	All right.
	I just galled me.
	I'm sorry I get upset by these things, but I just find the bull crap, and you know, these fake news guys are the same ones bitching about fake news that are sitting in that audience.
	This is fake news.
	Less than 10 minutes to go.
	Alright.
	I'm glad that we have the info right now because I didn't have it last night.
	Here's the clip that I'm talking about.
	Something big happening once again in the European Union Parliament.
	The European Parliament's upcoming vote on whether or not to halt EU membership talks with Turkey has no value in Turkish eyes.
	You see my tie-in with Turkey there?
	Turkey?
	Turkey.
	Beautiful.
	In Turkish eyes, the country's president Recep Tayyip Erdogan says, Ankara's post-coupage.
	She says says the way Trump always says it.
	Says.
	Says.
	It's interesting.
	Because it is say when you say something, but when you say says, it's more like says, but this woman and Trump always says says.
	What is that?
	It sounds like something you'd say if you were just learning English.
	Yeah, that's why it's, well, okay, Trump, there you go.
	President Recep Tayyip Erdogan says Ankara's post-coup purge pushed two of the Strasbourg body's largest groups to call for discussions to be stalled, citing concerns about human rights and democracy in Turkey.
	Erdogan once again accused Europe of siding with terrorist organisations and of double standards.
	He said if we stay silent after all of these events, if we don't say anything, the West will continue to welcome, with red carpets, tyrants who salute the West and who have blood on their hands.
	And they'll label anyone who criticises them a dictator.
	What?
	Founding EU members France and Germany have consistently supported continued engagement with Turkey, insisting that ending negotiations at this point would do more harm than good.
	But German Chancellor Angela Merkel added that doesn't justify curbing press freedom or arresting thousands of citizens.
	And that's what we have to criticize clearly, but at the same time we mustn't cut the channels of conversation.
	Merkel reiterated Germany's commitment to cooperating with Turkey, but said the alarming things going on there would be clearly addressed.
	Okay, two things about this report.
	The vote is now in, that happened today, 471 to 37, to halt Turkey's EU accession talks.
	This is a very important deal.
	Now, you recall, the Dutch had their referendum about this, and everyone was quite worried that, well, they'll just be ignored, even though all 28 member states have to ratify it.
	I guess there's a couple more dissenters now, quite a few.
	And this is, again, stopping New World Order, rolling up stuff.
	To me, it shows great discontent.
	And Turkey is pissed.
	I'll bet.
	Prime Minister of Turkey warns of tensions with the EU after vote urged ministers to freeze talks on its ascension.
	Now, the Parliament's vote, this is always a funny thing, so that whole body, the one we always see Farage speaking in front of, in this report from the Guardian, the Parliament's vote is non-binding.
	But represents a dramatic step ahead of the crucial meeting of EU ministers next month.
	So this doesn't mean it's not going to happen.
	It's non-binding, because the European Parliament has no power.
	Why do they even have a European Parliament?
	What is the point?
	They need a place for Farage to speak.
	Well, he's not even in it anymore.
	I know.
	That's really fantastic.
	And then, just to call out globalists and assholes, this happened in the United States.
	It just takes me a moment to collect my emotions.
	He is a father mourning the loss of a son at this service for Sergeant John Perry, killed in Afghanistan by a suicide bomber.
	Most importantly, I want people to know about the heroic Stuart Perry says his son stumbled on the suicide bomber before the bomber could reach his target, a soldier's 5K Veterans Day run.
	He would have killed possibly 100, 200 people.
	Who knows?
	Perry says his son's death comes at a time military service is facing disrespect.
	He says his family was even vood on the flight to bring his son's body home.
	And to Hear the reaction of the flight being delayed because of a Gold Star family and the first class cabin booing that was really upsetting.
	And it made us cry some more.
	How about that?
	It's bull crap.
	I was on one of these flights where they did that.
	They had a dead guy on there and they were moving him around.
	And the family was on there.
	You wouldn't see People applauded them.
	They all sat down while they got out.
	There was nothing.
	What were they booing?
	It was on Emirates?
	I want to know the name of the airline.
	It doesn't make sense to me.
	I've been on one of these flights with these guys flying around.
	If you listen to the story...
	They booed, the first class booed, because the flight was delayed leaving because of this.
	I believe it, John!
	I'll work on getting evidence.
	Of course, I have no proof, it's just what the father said, but why would he lie about that?
	Well, maybe they said the flight's been delayed without explaining it, and then they booed.
	Possible.
	Is that possible?
	It's possible.
	I also thought, wow, but when he said first class, I'm like, okay, I can see a-holes doing that.
	No.
	This is nonsense.
	There's no way that down a normal airline and any...
	There's no way.
	It's just not possible.
	This is a bogus story.
	Okay.
	It could be fake news.
	I bet it is fake news.
	Where'd you get it?
	That's a local story.
	It's a local news.
	It's bullcrap.
	Okay.
	I've been on one of these flights.
	Nothing like that happens.
	Okay.
	I do have one thing.
	I just wanted to read you something.
	A feedback based upon your dirty ATM clip.
	The nasty, dirty ATM. Oh, yeah.
	This is from our producer, Sir Roadwolf.
	I've always been mystified as to why the use of copper or brass or bronze for door handles and buttons have died off in the modern era.
	Copper-based alloys such as these are naturally antimicrobial and should be used for ATM keypads, public telephone keypads, and elevator buttons, just to name a few possible applications.
	There was a time when brass and bronze door handles were even specified in hospitals for this very purpose.
	I didn't know this.
	Yes.
	I didn't know this specifically, but I do know that those metals will kill bacteria.
	Well, now I know why door handles used to be made of brass.
	I didn't know that.
	But anyway, ATM buttons are already metal or metal-plated plastic in most cases, so why not make them from copper alloy?
	My guess costs.
	Yeah, I guess so, too.
	But here we go.
	It also turned green.
	Yeah, but when you think about what he's about to say here, you will really want brass.
	This made me think of the story from the subway system where I work.
	I was showing some contractors around me one of the stations and came out from a service room into the main public area.
	There in the middle of the floor was a bloody tampon.
	We were all quite perplexed as to how a tampon would have possibly been placed there.
	This is like a Christmas story, children.
	I want to tell you about the story of the bloody tampon.
	Upon returning to the shop, I loaded up the camera and played it back to watch a woman, in mid-stride, reach down into her jeans, pull out the tampon, dropping it on the floor.
	There was a garbage can only ten feet away.
	Then she stopped, reached into her purse, got out a fresh tampon, slipped that into her pants.
	Then she continued on her merry way, placing the hand she just used to do this on the escalator hand railing.
	Yuck!
	How disgusting is that?
	Yes.
	And is this a thing?
	I never heard of it.
	It could be.
	Damn.
	Pretty slick.
	Yeah, to coin a phrase.
	Yeah, ding.
	Well, talking about that sort of thing...
	So they had the Presidential Awards for Freedom Medals, just a brand of people that I think...
	Well, I think it was for Outstanding Human Resource.
	Well, it was for whatever it was for.
	It's a famous award, and they give it out to everybody that Obama wanted to give it out to.
	And so Ellen DeGeneres got it for some...
	I don't know what her contribution is.
	Yeah, Bruce Springsteen got one, Tom Hanks.
	It's a Hollywood moment.
	Yeah, Bill and Melinda Gates were there.
	And so they're giving this thing out.
	This is going to be the last time he's going to do this.
	And of course, Ellen made it all about herself with this interesting report.
	And then she did something that we've never talked about on the show.
	I didn't want to talk about it on the show, but I'm now going to talk about it on the show.
	But you might as well play the clip and then we'll talk about it on the show.
	Obama may hold the highest office in the land, but Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is still higher.
	Way higher.
	In terms of his height, the president had to reach up to present the basketball legend with his Medal of Freedom today.
	The nation's highest civilian honor went to 21 Americans, including Oakland native Tom Hanks, Vin Scully, and Bill and Melinda Gates.
	Really cool to see Tom Hanks there.
	Comedian Ellen tweeted this photo after she was denied entrance to the White House because she...
	Forgot her ID? Forgot her ID. Oh my goodness.
	They finally let her in, and she tearfully received her award.
	She also organized the mannequin challenge before the ceremony with other recipients.
	Did you see Robert De Niro, of course Tom Hanks, and Bruce Springsteen.
	Even Diana Ross was in that.
	That's the most famous mannequin challenge we've seen.
	Yeah, she had the most famous selfie.
	Now she's got the most famous mannequin challenge.
	Go Ellen.
	Thanks for joining us here at 5 o'clock.
	Lester holds his name.
	All right.
	All right, John.
	Okay, first of all, she doesn't have her ID. How does she get there without her ID? She didn't fly in a commercial jet.
	Obviously, they flew her in on a private jet.
	Now, I'm thinking that she might have left her ID in the hotel room.
	It's possible.
	I'll give her the benefit of the doubt.
	But it was kind of...
	Then she took a picture of it.
	She could have gone back to the hotel room to get it.
	Now she selfied herself.
	Then she did this stupid...
	I don't know what this is about.
	I mean, it's like the ice bucket challenge.
	Who's it benefiting?
	This mannequin thing is stupider than the ice bucket challenge where you take a picture of yourself.
	By the way, you can be moving around and take a picture and say it's your bunch of mannequins.
	That's what I would do.
	I'd jump in the air so your feet are off the ground and then take the picture and say, this is a mannequin challenge.
	You somehow levitated and you're stuck there.
	You're stuck there.
	I didn't want to talk about it on the show because it's dumb.
	And it's another one of these things that have kind of gone semi-viral, people doing it.
	I expect various podcasters to probably do it.
	But what's the point of it?
	Well, you know, it's something fun to do.
	The kids like that.
	It's fun.
	That's what it is.
	Yeah, the kids like to do that.
	I don't have that much of a problem with it.
	I tell you, I do have a problem with it.
	I think, let's go back to, I think the best of these, which has been around for the last couple of these things come and go, I always thought the best one, because I believed it was funny, was planking.
	Yeah.
	Planking, yes.
	Yeah, planking was good.
	Yeah, planking.
	It's a version of planking.
	Well, I'll tell you this.
	Planking, the ice bucket challenge, and this is all elements of a depression.
	Ah, the economic downturn.
	Ah, yeah.
	Pole sitting was a big one in the 30s.
	Pole sitting, yes.
	What else can we look at?
	We can set the trend.
	What else was a big one in depression times?
	Well, the big one was those dances.
	Oh, like they shoot horses, don't they?
	Yeah, the dance-a-thon.
	Oh, we could do that.
	We could do the dance-a-thon.
	Like three-day dance-a-thon.
	People dying of sleep.
	Yeah, they pass out.
	Yeah.
	Okay, that's a good one.
	That was the movie, wasn't it?
	They shoot horses, don't they?
	Yes, that was about that event.
	There was other gimmicks.
	There was, you know, different kinds of magicians floating around doing crazy stuff.
	But the pole sitting, there was a...
	I'd have to look into it.
	Maybe I'll come up with a few more.
	But there was a bunch of them.
	But that's no different to me than planking or ice bucket challenge, which did benefit a charity.
	Or as late as this stupid mannequin thing.
	Yeah.
	Well...
	In other words, you won't see me doing that.
	No, but, you know, we're in our 50s.
	It's so much fun!
	Okay.
	Well, with that, I would like to say Happy Thanksgiving to you, John.
	Say hi to the whole family.
	It's another one of those Thanksgiving shows where I'm just complaining.
	Well, everyone needs that uncle on Thanksgiving.
	We appreciate you playing the role.
	That's good.
	That would be me.
	Yes.
	And, you know, congratulate Buzzkill Jr.
	and Jesse on their poodle.
	Yeah, they're getting a poodle.
	They're getting a poodle.
	That's great.
	You might want to, you know, start the conversation at the table to tell them that they really should find out what it's going to be.
	We did that last night, as a matter of fact.
	They were here.
	Any luck?
	Nope.
	They want to be surprised.
	All right, everybody, be grateful, be thankful.
	We're still alive in Gitmo Nation, and our mental hygiene is high.
	And coming to you from the Crackpot Condo here in the skyscraper, downtown Austin, Tejas, capital of the drone, Star State, FEMA Region 6, if you're looking forward on a governmental map.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where Plato say, Woman who does brothel bathroom laundry throws in towel.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Sunday with another episode right here on No Agenda.
	Adios, mofos!
	Adios, mofos! mofos!
	One person's fake news is another person's news.
	We are not serious about facts and what's true and what's not.
	You faked with me.
	Yes.
	No.
	Yes.
	You faked.
	I faked.
	If we can't discriminate between serious arguments and propaganda, then we have problems.
	That whole thing, the whole production, it was all an act.
	Fake, fake, fake, fake.
	I'm shocked.
	Jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it.
	Don't laugh.
	Why are you laughing?
	Shut up.
	Shut up.
	Thank you.
	It's a part of my brand.
	This very boring show can seem appealing until you take a closer look, much like the lunch buffet at a strip club, but it's actually just a cheap tool.
	Oliver, I'm coming for you.
	I don't care if he has goblin guides to go into Washington.
	I don't care if he gets goblin guts on him.
	But if he catches him kissing goblins or in bed with a goblin, you know, that's a problem.
	Or what if he marries a goblin?
	What if he has babies with a goblin?
	I mean, that would be what Hillary did.
	The top 20 fake news stories was actually higher than what you saw for the real.
	Their information in soundbites and snippets.
	During his trip to Germany.
	New York Times or the Washington Post.
	We are not serious.
	To the Washington Post.
	Bites and snippets.
	Expect fake news to get more engaged.
	Bites and snippets.
	The top 20 fake news stories.
	Expect fake news.
	Bites and snippets.
	And particularly in the age of social media.
	Bites and snippets.
	The New York Times or the Washington Post.
	Their information in soundbites.
	The top 20 fake news stories.
	Bites and snippets.
	Eating fake news site.
	The New York Times.
	That was one of the really surprising things to me.
	I didn't expect fake news to get more engagement than real news about information.
	The leading fake news site getting the most engagement had only been registered months before.
	Four fake stories got four fake stories.
	Amen.
	Fist bump.
	And I say stop it.
	Stop it.
	Stop it.
	And I'll say it right to the cameras.
	Stop it.
	Stop it.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	And I say stop.
	And I say stop.
	Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
	I will say this.
	I'll say it right to the camera.
	Right to the camera.
	Right to the camera.
	I would say that I'm surprised that this comes directly from a Wikipedia page.
	I don't know.
	Are you familiar with Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia?
	Mr.
	Mr. Clapper?
	Generally.
	Is it appropriate to take information off of Wikipedia and provide it to the Congress?
	Plagiarized.
	Plagiarized.
	From Wikipedia.
	I would say that I'm surprised this comes directly from a Wikipedia page.
	I'm going to ask the clerk What could it be?
	I would say that I'm surprised if this comes directly from a Wikipedia page.
	I don't know off the top of my head generally.
	Generally.
	Generally.
	I don't know.
	Oh my god.
	Fake news.
	Adios, mofo.
	The best podcast in the universe!

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