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	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	And Thursday, November 17, 2016, this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 878.
	This is No Agenda.
	Surveilling the sanctimoniously smug and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet here in the Crackpot Condo, downtown Austin, Tejas, the Drone Star Stadium.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where Plato say man who mistake Dvorak as Curry doesn't know him from Adam.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Is it just me or do these keep getting better?
	Well, some of them get better.
	I got a list, and then I pick and choose from it.
	So I've been leading up to that particular one since that was one of the gems.
	I like that one.
	That was good.
	That was good.
	Woo!
	How you doing, man?
	All right.
	Except we got the grinding up the street out in front of the house, which he stopped a second ago, luckily, because it's noisy.
	Yeah.
	Well, it happens.
	We'll do the best we can.
	Yeah, it's going to go on for a month.
	Really?
	Holy crap.
	Yeah, they're taking that to hold everything to put new pipes in.
	Oh.
	Hmm.
	Well, that'll be super fun on Sunday, because I will be in Florida.
	Well.
	With who knows.
	Well, you know how it is on the road.
	It's always like, crap shoot if it's going to work or not.
	So you have to get a new screen, it sounds like.
	Yeah, I'll work on it.
	I already have three.
	I'm trying to cut back on my screen real estate.
	Four.
	Four's good.
	It's good balance.
	Yeah.
	Four.
	Four.
	Anyway, so here in the United States of Gitmo Nation, there's some specific things going on.
	I have a lot of other stuff from around the world.
	However...
	What the American news media seems to be obsessed with right now is the transition team.
	And everyone's pretty much talking out of their ass continuously.
	There's rumors, and this person, that person.
	Oh, that guy, he hates Jews.
	That guy hates blacks.
	That guy hates women.
	That woman is a man.
	I mean, there's a million things.
	And everyone's speculating.
	Just speculating.
	And I know exactly what is going on, and I can prove this with a few clips from the Morning Joes, who actually had a pretty good breakdown of...
	What is happening?
	Or at least who's out?
	If they were ever in, I don't know.
	But I know exactly what's going on here.
	Let me start first with...
	You know what's going on.
	I know what's going on.
	No one else knows what's going on.
	Before you say anything, I want to tell you that today's show for me is going to go as the grinder again.
	Today's show for me is going to be largely deconstructing NBC News and their approach to all the exact same stuff.
	Oh, very good.
	Okay.
	Well, this is MSNBC. But I'll stay away from the NBC stuff.
	Okay, first, and by the way, Joe and Mika, and you know that they're, I guess they're both, they divorced and now they are together.
	I did not know that.
	Yeah, I think I might have brought it up a couple weeks ago.
	And you can tell.
	You can tell these two are having a great time.
	Like no kids.
	Are they batting their eyes at each other?
	I don't know, just you can see the body language, everything.
	They look very strong together.
	And they need to be because they're on MSNBC. Here is the first person who apparently was kicked out if he was ever in, I don't know, but I'm happy to hear this.
	Mike Rogers, douchebag extraordinaire, the radio DJ. He's out.
	So Donald Trump received his first presidential daily briefing yesterday.
	On the front page of the New York Times, this headline, firings and discord put Trump transition team in a state of disarray.
	After Chris Christie was booted off the transition team last Friday, yesterday Mike Rogers announced he's out too.
	Rogers is a former FBI agent and House Intel Committee chairman and was thought to be high on the list for CIA director.
	Sources are describing a, quote, Stalin-esque purge.
	Really?
	Did they shoot people?
	No.
	Here's Joe Scarborough doing his best Dvorak.
	Stalinist purge!
	Really?
	Did they shoot people?
	No.
	Because Stalin killed people, right?
	Did they have show trials?
	Boom, boom, boom, you're out is what they mean.
	Did they have show trials and then they hung people?
	It's descriptive writing jail.
	Okay.
	Well, before you...
	By the Stalin-esque purge.
	That is an NBC meme everybody's using.
	Oh, perfect.
	That wasn't his invention, that's for sure.
	Got it.
	So, you know, what is obviously taking place here, certainly on MSNBC, is we just have to make the entire Trump administration look like bumbling fools and idiots.
	They don't know protocol.
	They don't know how to do it.
	They don't know what's going on.
	Yes, that's NBC's thing.
	Yeah, there's fiefdoms.
	You know, Pence has taken over.
	Christie is out.
	They have lobbyists in, lobbyists out.
	But in this clip, I think we actually find out what is going on.
	A Trump campaign staffer tells NBC News that emerging fiefdoms have complicated things.
	The Wall Street Journal reports this morning that Mike Pence, who has taken over the transition, has ordered the removal of all lobbyists from the team.
	Donald Trump tweeted yesterday, very organized process taking place as I decide on cabinet and many other positions.
	I am the only one who knows who the finalists are.
	I think it's genius.
	Here's Trump's thinking.
	Well, I'm going to have the news anyway, so we might as well just have these guys talking about what I'm doing, something that's not going to hurt me.
	So, he's just running a reality show on who's going to be in the cabinet.
	You're fired.
	He's firing people, he's bringing them in, and he's saying, only I know who the finalists will be.
	Okay.
	I love that.
	I'm surprised nobody picks up on that and ridicules them for it.
	And it makes nothing but sense because that's what he loves to do.
	He's messing with them.
	Well, I'm...
	I have one more out clip before we get to your Mike Rogers.
	Well, just say something.
	Mike Rogers, I didn't even know he was in the running for anything.
	I don't think he is.
	No, I don't think he is.
	I think it's pure speculation.
	I think it's bullcrap.
	Okay, go on.
	Yeah, no, it's all bullcrap, and Trump knows exactly what, or he may not know exactly, but he knows that he's playing everybody, and all they're doing is running around in circles and complaining a lot.
	Giuliani, who, you know, a lot of people, oh, yes, he should be attorney general or...
	The Secretary of State.
	I'm like, man, is he really going to bring these losers in?
	No.
	Again, I think it was just baiting.
	But listen to Giuliani and why he's not in.
	I presume why he's not in.
	This guy is like Hillary Clinton with a penis.
	And as we talk about the thought of Rudy Giuliani as the frontrunner for Secretary of State, let's go over why it hasn't maybe gone over well with some.
	Politico reports he was paid as a lawyer and a consultant to work for foreign governments, including groups from Qatar and Venezuela.
	And he made hundreds of thousands of dollars off paid speeches.
	Wait, wait, Qatar and Venezuela?
	Yeah.
	Qatar, they're the ones that basically...
	Turn a blind eye to terrorism across the Middle East.
	And Venezuela's been our sworn enemy for years.
	So there's some New York Times rights quoted.
	Did he get paid money?
	Venezuela's been our sworn enemy for years, John.
	Apparently.
	Okay.
	Venezuela's been our sworn enemy for years.
	So there's some New York Times rights quoted.
	Did he get paid money from those countries?
	Just a tad bit, yep.
	Wow.
	In 2006, Giuliani reported a financial disclosure report.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Stop.
	He's working for an international law firm and they get paid money.
	Oh no!
	It gets better.
	It gets better.
	Paid money from those countries?
	Just a tad bit, yep.
	Wow.
	In 2006, Giuliani reported a financial disclosure report that he made 124 speeches for as much as $200,000 each.
	And had earned a total of $11.4 million.
	He often made extravagant demands in returns for agreeing to make a speech.
	More.
	He made more than Hillary Clinton made for speeches?
	That's crazy!
	He had extravagant demands.
	Did you know that, Willie?
	What?
	You're like a bunch of old women.
	Yeah.
	What number was that?
	Including making sure the private plane that flew him to these engagements were a certain size.
	According to the Wall Street Journal, Giuliani regularly appeared.
	Well, you don't want to go on his Cessna.
	Yeah.
	But at least he didn't get involved with, like, Iranian groups or anything like that.
	He appeared at events for Iranian opposition.
	What?
	Yes, yes.
	Are you kidding me?
	There's just a little...
	What if Hillary Clinton were doing that?
	MEK, that's the group that's on the State Department.
	I believe so.
	Poor Howard.
	That's on a terror list.
	There you go.
	So he's got a lot of problems.
	Oh, brother.
	His problems are all bull crap.
	I don't believe half of that, by the way, unless somebody shows me the sheet, the term sheet on his speaking, which we had a copy of the Hillary one, which floated around.
	He has a minimum requirement for his jet size.
	I'm sure it's going to surface.
	If it does, I'll be interested.
	This seems so rehearsed.
	Oh, no!
	Totally.
	He knew exactly what was coming.
	He knew what was going on.
	He didn't do...
	I know I'm talking about these guys.
	One of them says, oh, well, at least it wasn't for Iran.
	Oh, yes, it was.
	Oh, no, it wasn't.
	It was a total setup, total script.
	Totally.
	Who we don't have to worry about is the DNI director, you know, kind of the boss of the intelligence community, James Clapper.
	Clapper's out.
	We understand that the director of national intelligence, James Clapper, has told the House Select Committee on Intelligence that he submitted his letter of resignation last night, and he said it felt pretty good.
	And oddly enough, he is expected to testify before the House Intel Committee at any moment now.
	He'll be testifying about the cooperation between intelligence sources within our government along with the Defense Department.
	This is, um, Clapper was the fourth director of the National Intelligence.
	All right.
	So, uh, he resigned and, you know, just keeping the honor to himself, didn't want to have one of those, ah, screw that guy.
	I think that's pretty, probably...
	Honored himself by doing that.
	And I want to get to your NBC clips, but I do need to just, because this will set us up.
	Rachel Maddow, I know, I should back away from her.
	But she epitomizes the, and the term I'm using is sanctimoniously smug.
	Because that's exactly what she is.
	About how stupid Trump is.
	How stupid.
	They're no crap.
	They're idiots.
	They're morons.
	And of course she makes all the faces while she's talking about this.
	So this is an unusual development.
	Do that again.
	That was good.
	So this is an unusual development.
	As you know, the president-elect visited the White House along with his wife, Melania, last Thursday.
	His son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who's now serving in an official role on the presidential transition team.
	On that Thursday visit, Jared Kushner was apparently also part of the Trump's entourage on their visit to the White House.
	And Mr.
	Kushner apparently left a real impression while he was there.
	The LA Times says that Mr.
	Kushner, quote, drew notice from Obama's staff when he asked, as they toured the West Wing, how many of the individuals there would remain into the next administration?
	None of them.
	No, no, no.
	Did you ever see that TV show, The West Wing?
	So, what they're saying is, and I think they're making it up, oh, well, you know, Trump was there in pants, and they didn't know all the things that happened.
	They didn't know that all that has to be done.
	Who leaked that information?
	Oh, they had no idea.
	What?
	All these people are going?
	We have to hire 4,000 people?
	No, they didn't know.
	How many of the individuals there would remain into the next administration?
	None of them.
	No, no, no.
	Did you ever see that TV show, The West Wing?
	None of them stay.
	The West Wing, when the president leaves, all the president's staff, whoop, out the door.
	You're supposed to bring in all new people.
	The West Wing staff will all leave when President Obama leaves.
	And the Trump transition team apparently doesn't know that.
	Woo-hoo!
	Woo-hoo!
	What is that?
	Woo-hoo!
	What is that?
	Oh, man.
	As for Mr.
	Trump himself, the Wall Street Journal reports today on something that I don't quite know what to do with.
	I'll just read you how they reported it.
	Quote, during their private White House meeting on Thursday, President Obama walked his successor through the duties of running the country, and Mr.
	Trump seemed surprised by the scope.
	After meeting with Mr.
	Trump, President Obama realized that the Republican needs more guidance.
	He plans to spend more time with his successor than presidents typically do.
	And if that's true, that is a nice thing for President Obama to be doing.
	It also puts a whole different cast, not just on what President Obama wants to do in the next 66 days to cement his legacy, it also puts a very different cast on how much help, like what kind of training wheels he may need to provide for these folks who are coming in next.
	Training wheels.
	She's so degrading.
	Sanctimoniously smug.
	That's what she is.
	So this is not by accident.
	You have deconstructed NBC, part of the CNBC, MSNBC, the whole family.
	What did you come up with?
	Well, they're slanting to such an extreme that I don't see how anyone can listen to...
	Actually, I don't know how you can watch this network.
	It's almost impossible because of their...
	It's just...
	It's slanted in journalistic ways that are all of what you would consider illegal in terms of no balance whatsoever.
	I'd say most of the stories are just loaded...
	Spiked with innuendo.
	No facts, just innuendo.
	Lots of innuendo.
	A lot of it has to do with Trump's holdings and the conflicts of interest.
	I'm just going to go through some of these and we'll go over some of the details.
	There's a lot of these, but they're usually in three segments so I can break these out.
	Let's start with the rundown on NBC. This is where, again, the Stalin thing came into play.
	I'm going to mention something, by the way.
	Stalin-esque If Trump was taking the people like Mike Rogers and Christie and taking them out in the back and having Barry, a guy who was the head of the secret police, shoot them, that would be Stalinist.
	If Trump was taking these guys and sending them off to some gulag or even to tombs in New York, that would be Stalinist.
	No, none of that's going on, so it's not Stalin-esque at all.
	But let's start with the Trump-Stalin rundown on NBC. Okie doke.
	Okay, and then nothing fired.
	What's going on?
	This is one of those days.
	What is going on?
	Good evening.
	Six days into the Trump transition with the president-elect holed up with his team inside his tower here in Manhattan.
	Tower.
	There were major signs of strain emerging.
	First came word of a shakeup at the top of the transition team.
	Now comes word of a purge with some insiders being forced out.
	All of it happening as Donald Trump and his team face a massive task of filling powerful cabinet jobs and preparing to take over the White House or the far-reaching federal government.
	It's where we begin tonight with NBC's Kristen Welker.
	As President-elect Donald Trump huddled inside Trump Tower with Vice President-elect Mike Pence, signs the Trump transition may be in turmoil.
	Former Congressman Mike Rogers, who had been advising Trump on national security, abruptly announcing his departure.
	That following Chris Christie's recent exit.
	But sources telling NBC News Roger's departure was a part of a, quote, Stalin-esque purge aimed at Ashton Christie and his allies.
	And sources say multiple fiefdoms have emerged inside Trump Tower, all competing for Trump's ear.
	Tonight, the new picture of Trump's cabinet emerging.
	Top Trump loyalist, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, now eyed for Secretary of State.
	Also in the running, supporter John Bolton, former U.S. ambassador to the U.N. under George W. Bush.
	John would be a very good choice.
	Is there anybody better?
	Maybe me, I don't know.
	Giuliani could face questions about potential conflicts of interest.
	He was paid millions of dollars as a lawyer and consultant for foreign governments.
	A transition official knocking that down and insisting every candidate will be thoroughly vetted.
	I do think that as a matter of course, these processes even out and it will not seem quite so chaotic in the choices down the road.
	But tonight, Democrats still pouncing on Trump's pick of a chief strategist, Steve Bannon, former head of Breitbart, with a following among the alt-right.
	This is a man who says by his very presence that this is a White House that will embrace bigotry.
	Traveling overseas, President Obama didn't weigh in on Trump's administration choices, but warned of the dangers of, quote, crude nationalism.
	Meanwhile, a senior Trump official tells NBC News Mr.
	Trump received his first intelligence briefing as president-elect today.
	What do we know about this Bannon guy, actually?
	Well, you can look into him.
	Well, I have.
	I have.
	He's definitely targeted.
	By the left, for some reason.
	You know what's interesting?
	If they really want to target, there's more evidence to say he's a wife-beater than there is to say...
	No, I think the wife-beating part is the reason he's being targeted.
	But they're not mentioning that.
	It's all, oh, he hates Jews.
	Well, because the wife-beating charge was thrown out.
	And you can't start accusing people of stuff that, well, he was only accused, and you have some ammunition back at him.
	Well, they have no problem accusing him of being a white nationalist.
	Well, that's one of those things you don't want to deny.
	No, I've never been a white nationalist.
	Why was it brought up in the conversation?
	It's just a bad situation.
	And they only show pictures of making him look as much like a douchebag as they possibly can with the...
	Oh, well, he dresses like a douchebag.
	He looks like a douchebag.
	He's unkempt.
	Well, you don't know that.
	Well, the pictures I've seen, I'm sorry, you're correct.
	The pictures I've seen, he looks like an unkempt a-hole.
	It's the same pictures of his, you know, he hasn't shaved for a couple of days.
	It's a crappy picture.
	He looks like a douchebag, totally.
	And that's the pictures they use.
	But I don't know.
	We'll work on that later.
	I got 30 seconds on Bannon from CNN. That's all I got on him.
	From Professor Jason Johnson of Morgan State University.
	There is nothing to laugh about when the president-elect has picked a white supremacist with ties to terrorist organizations like the Ku Klux Klan to be his senior advisor.
	That's quite a statement right there!
	I'm telling you, they're out to get this guy.
	I'm not laughing.
	In fact, people are afraid and concerned.
	And I think the fact that Dave Chappelle said, look, we're going to give him a chance, he gives us a chance, and then 24 hours later, Donald Trump is attacking the press and putting Steve Bannon in that position, this is not something to laugh about.
	People need to be concerned, and people need to push back against this kind of presidency.
	If we laugh at it and we normalize it, there's a problem.
	I'm all for laughing.
	I'm all for having a good time.
	But this president could pose an existential and physical threat to press members, to members of minority communities.
	Press members.
	And we have to remember that as we're laughing about him and thinking he's silly, he could also potentially be dangerous.
	Oh, ooh.
	Okay, well, I'm sorry you played that clip now.
	Oh.
	Because it took us completely off track.
	I didn't want to talk about Steve Bannon.
	I wanted to talk about the propaganda.
	That's all I had.
	I'm done with Steve Bannon.
	I know, but now you don't remember what the other clip was.
	Of course I do.
	Well, do you remember Elizabeth Warren?
	What did she say?
	I'm just asking if you remember Elizabeth Warren.
	No, I don't remember.
	I'm sorry.
	I'll play the clip again.
	No, no.
	Don't play that clip again.
	It's too long.
	Elizabeth Warren says that it's going to be a bigoted administration.
	Yes, that's what she said.
	And she uses the word says.
	She says Steve Bannon says it's going to be a...
	Oh, I didn't hear that.
	She says Steve Bannon says it's going to be...
	But if you listen carefully, she uses the word says.
	This woman is dangerous.
	She's the one who's highly involved in the Soros event that's going on, or what was going on yesterday.
	I think it continues throughout the week.
	What's this?
	That has been discussed on RT and elsewhere.
	And there's a memo.
	There's actually one of our producers sent us the agenda for the Soros event.
	And it's an event.
	I actually have a clip about that, but I'll play that later.
	Do you mind if I find that Elizabeth Warren again?
	I don't mind hearing that, where she says that.
	It was about three quarters of the way through.
	Okay.
	I know exactly where to go.
	Picture of Trump's cabinet emerging.
	Top Trump for Secretary of State.
	Supporter John Bull to the U.S. John would be a very good choice.
	Is there anything to be?
	I don't know.
	Here we go.
	And consultant for foreign governments.
	A transition official knocking that down and insisting every candidate will be thoroughly vetted.
	I do think that as a matter of course...
	Are you sure we're three quarters of the way through?
	No.
	...of a chief strategist, Steve Bannon, former head of Breitbart, with a following among the alt-right.
	This is a man who says, by his very presence, that this is a White House that will embrace bigotry.
	Well, that's a little different than he says that.
	But that's not the way she emphasizes it.
	No, he says...
	Yeah, you're right.
	This is the way all the reports are on NBC currently.
	This is a man who says, by his very presence...
	Ah, you're right.
	By his very presence...
	It doesn't say anything by his very presence.
	By his very presence, he would be saying, hey, I'm here.
	That's all you can say by your very presence.
	I'm going to give you a borderline...
	Borderline.
	Let's go.
	It was borderline in more than one way.
	They also used the word at the beginning of that report, purge.
	Yes, the Stalin-esque purge.
	So you use the word purge, but if you have like a bunch of things going on, you purge them.
	I mean, as though they were in existence.
	These were just hangers-on.
	Again, I brought up with you earlier, was Mike Rogers, did we even know he was involved in any way?
	No, I can hardly imagine that.
	He's such a douche.
	He's a total douche.
	Maybe he wanted to get an interview for his radio show.
	Yeah.
	So let's go to Trump-Stalin 2.
	In the meantime, there are new questions being raised this evening about the president-elect's tangled web of business ties here at home and around the world, many of which remain hidden because he still has not released his tax returns.
	That is prompting concerns about possible conflicts of interest.
	There are also questions about the role Trump's children will play in the White House, in particular the strong influence of Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner.
	We have it all covered for you, starting with NBC's Katie Turner.
	When Donald Trump takes the oath of office, he'll be able to see his newest property from the Capitol steps.
	The old post office, Trump's D.C. hotel, is owned by the federal government.
	So Trump is now his own landlord.
	Blurred lines across a Trump administration.
	How much will Trump be involved in his own business?
	And how much will his family be involved in his presidency?
	NBC News has learned from a senior government official, the transition team inquired about top-secret security clearance for Trump's adult children.
	Trump himself denied this on Twitter.
	Oh, well there you go.
	He said, this is not true.
	Doesn't matter.
	No, this doesn't mean somebody on the team didn't say, what do we have to do to get some security clearances around here?
	Who do we have to blow to get some security clearances around here?
	That's possible.
	But they're making a big deal out of this.
	And there's a couple of elements in here that when I bring them up, I think they're actually shocking.
	Well, let's go to clip three on the Stalin report.
	Okay, Stalin 3.
	Since he still hasn't released his taxes.
	Obviously the public didn't care because I won the election very easily.
	But Democrats care, tonight calling for a congressional investigation into Trump's finances.
	This is her NBC News, New York.
	What?
	Now, what are they going to do?
	Why are they doing that now?
	I want to play this clip.
	This is an ISO. This is an NBC ISO on security clearance.
	On the campaign trail, Trump often said if elected, his kids would run his company.
	What he didn't say is that they could get security clearance, too.
	If we're concerned about the blending of political power with personal interests, as has been the case in the Clinton Foundation, we should be asking hard questions about how President-elect Trump divides his political and business interests.
	Now, there's an implication in this report, and Katie Tours, she's really going after him.
	Well, they didn't get along too well on the campaign trail, so that's understandable.
	Well, he called her out a couple times.
	But this idea, there's an idea that's being floated and is becoming a meme that if you get a security clearance, you can't have anything to do with business.
	Right.
	And this is, you know, a lot of the reports, oh, oh my God, if they get security clearances and then they run the Trump organization, what are we going to do?
	This is as if nobody in business, let's look at Chertoff, for example.
	Oh, gosh.
	Anybody in business running a company or having anything to do with the company should never have security clearance because they'll know stuff.
	Yeah.
	This is nonsense.
	Yeah.
	Yes, it's obviously total nonsense.
	Moreover, that it's just not true.
	It's not true.
	So let's go to...
	And by the way, I just want to reiterate, tax returns don't show...
	You can't lie on your FEC documents, the Federal Election Commission.
	He put a document in with all of his assets, right down to share levels, everything.
	It's all in there.
	It's a lot, you know, if you want to go and count it all.
	It's too much for people to deal with.
	Yeah, but the taxes won't show anything.
	They're not going to show...
	They don't want to...
	In fact, here's a clip that I want to...
	Bounce off of that thought.
	NBC, terror, conflicts, properties.
	Trump owns 65 properties around the world and 500 companies in 27 countries.
	While the president is exempt from conflict of interest laws, even the appearance of conflicts can pose problems.
	Like what?
	Like what?
	Well, here's a couple of things.
	Now, first of all, this information, the 500 companies and 26 properties, which I guess are resorts mostly, That never came up during the election.
	Because the Democrats were using all kinds of compartmentalized, slanderous ideas to make Trump lose votes.
	One of them was he wasn't rich at all.
	He had no money.
	He's bullcrap.
	He's lucky to be a billionaire.
	Those planes fly so cheap.
	757 is about $13,000 an hour.
	Yeah.
	So he's just broke.
	Doesn't include parking.
	So now they're making a big stink about all his properties worldwide and all the rest of it.
	And in fact, there are no laws against conflict of interest if you're the president.
	I think it was always assumed that the president would probably have natural conflicts of interest.
	And the only thing you can't do as a president, besides break some sort of law and murder somebody...
	You can't take huge gifts from foreign governments.
	A Secretary of State can do that, though.
	Well, she can't either.
	But she did.
	They had a workaround.
	It was a workaround.
	Yeah, they didn't want to insult the guy.
	Yeah, they had a workaround.
	$30,000 necklace.
	I don't want to insult the guy.
	So again, back up to my thesis here, this is all innuendo.
	Yeah.
	And NBC's not going to let up on it.
	Every report they've done, and I started tearing these things apart, I said, my God, this is terrible.
	This is some of these ISOs I've got.
	Here's NBC. These are all short.
	That's why this is not a really terribly boring report.
	NBC ISO on Andrea.
	That would be Andrea Mitchell, I presume?
	Yes.
	The Democratic Party is absolutely on their side.
	As the president leaves tonight for his last foreign trip, he said he will reassure European leaders Donald Trump told him he will not pull out of NATO. One campaign idea that Mr.
	Obama says his successor will not fulfill.
	Really?
	No.
	It's a promise that you don't fulfill.
	Not an idea.
	No, thank you.
	Good point.
	And this is another thing they're doing.
	They're misusing language.
	So they dropped this.
	When you hear fulfill, oh, he won't fulfill that, you think there's a promise that's not going to be fulfilled.
	That's the first thing your mind triggers on.
	Right, right, right, right.
	This is good stuff, yeah.
	But she says this.
	And he never even had such an idea.
	He just was bitching about them not paying their fair share.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, he never promised that we're going to pull out of NATO in the first place.
	He never had an idea that we're going to pull out of NATO in the first place.
	This is just a lie, and then it's twisted.
	They can't even just do a simple lie.
	They've got to twist it.
	Well, that's like what I hear continuously, right down to the kids, you know, the high school kids, is Donald Trump wants to deport Mexicans.
	That's now the truth.
	You're Mexican, you're out.
	But he never said that.
	Well, we had that report on one of the clips on the last show where the woman's bitching and she says he wants to deport Americans.
	Sure he does!
	All right, which is something you can't do.
	Let's play this last ISO. This is NBC ISO. This is the way the news opens.
	Developing news tonight, Trump transition in turmoil.
	The president-elect's team plagued by infighting.
	First a shakeup, now reports of a purge.
	What we've learned about the power struggle happening inside Trump Tower.
	All in the family, new concerns as NBC News learns the Trump team has asked about top-secret security clearances for his children.
	Should they have access to America's most sensitive information?
	Focus tonight, centering on the role of Trump's powerful son-in-law, Jared Kushner.
	Oh my goodness.
	That's the way they open the news.
	Be afraid, people.
	Be afraid.
	I got scary music.
	They go after Trump.
	They say, should...
	This is the question I'm going to ask you.
	Should the kids have access to America's top secrets?
	Should they?
	Adam, should you have access to America's top secrets?
	There are two million civilians with top secret security clearance.
	Two million.
	Should they have access to America's top secrets, those people?
	No.
	No, they shouldn't.
	The other thing is, it's not as though you get a top-secret clearance and you knock on the door at Langley and you say, hey, let me in, I gotta go look at some files.
	You gotta think, yeah.
	Pay no attention to that little buttonhole with the camera.
	I can take microfiche.
	Oh, man.
	That, yeah.
	Now you nailed that.
	No.
	Yeah.
	I got more nailing if you want to do.
	Here's one more ISO from NBC. This is the way they do this reporting.
	I want you to play this one.
	This is contradiction.
	Okay.
	The idea that someone would be an informal or unofficial advisor and also have those powers is itself a contradiction.
	What powers?
	The powers that see top secret stuff and that's a contradiction?
	They're talking about Kirshner here, or whatever his name is.
	And he's going to be advising...
	He's like in the family, so he says something to Trump once in a while, I'm sure.
	And so play this clip again, because...
	You caught it right away.
	But it was like, what are we talking about?
	They just throw this stuff in there.
	This is what NBC's doing now.
	Let's say A plus B. I don't know why they can put up with such a contradiction.
	The idea that someone would be an informal or unofficial advisor and also have those powers is itself a contradiction.
	Powers!
	It's power.
	If you have powers and...
	I'm telling you, this particular ISO has had me scratching my head ever since I first heard it.
	People are insane.
	They're just making stuff up.
	This is done on purpose.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	But, you know, you got to wonder how, in what kind of state these people are when they're...
	I'm pretty sure that everyone at NBC, the NBC family of stations, I think they really believe all this.
	They really believe that's crazy.
	You can't have that guy have top secret actors.
	No!
	There's got to be somebody in that group that thinks it's nuts.
	No, well, they certainly won't say anything.
	I can't believe everybody in this organization is lockstep into this nonsense.
	Yeah, I do.
	It doesn't surprise me at all.
	Okay, if you want, I can take it just a little bit further with three more clips.
	Yeah, I like it a lot.
	Please.
	Now let's go, so they, and what I'm doing here is I'm going to show that everything they're doing, if it's got anything, if they can get Trump in and give him the needle, they're going to do it.
	This is NBC again.
	I don't know how, I could probably do this for maybe a week, you look at NBC, or a couple of weeks maybe until the end of the month looking at just NBC. Yeah.
	As part of the three by three.
	Yeah.
	But, but.
	It's really aggravating.
	Let's listen to this.
	This is their report on Carrier and jobs leaving the country.
	And this is what I would call an unbelievably unbalanced report using propagandistic techniques to get the message across.
	Let's play Carrier 1.
	When Carrier Air Conditioning told its 1,400 employees it was shutting down...
	To move production from our facility in Indianapolis to Monterey, Mexico...
	It became a focal point for Donald Trump in the election.
	We're bringing jobs back to our country.
	We're not going to let Carrier leave.
	Many at Carrier are now counting on him to keep his promise.
	Put your money where your mouth is.
	It's as simple as that.
	Across from the plant, Sully's Bar and Grill, where workers, after their shift, say they have high expectations for the president-elect.
	We want you to do what you said you're going to do.
	We're going to hold you accountable.
	Just down the road, another blow to American jobs.
	The Rexnore plant makes ball bearings.
	It too is now moving to Mexico.
	350 jobs lost.
	Okay, so they start off by grabbing people from the factory who are...
	I don't believe the black guy for the first guy was a Trump voter to begin with.
	So I don't want to put your money where your mouth is.
	He's aggressive.
	The other guy is, we're going to hold you accountable.
	I mean, these are not the typical, you know, if you went around, you'd probably hope to get somebody like, so, well, I hope he can do, keep the jobs here, it would be great, because otherwise I'm screwed.
	But no, none of that.
	Yeah, this is cherry-picking the man on the street bit.
	It's as old as the road to Rome.
	Cherry-picking the man on the street bit, which everyone can do, and it's very anti-Trump-sounding.
	But that's, let's assume that's not the case.
	Well, I'd say they're on mission.
	Well, they are on mission, but let's just assume that was just a coincidence.
	Let's play clip two.
	But Trump's threat to make companies that leave pay fines may not help.
	In the end, manufacturing in the United States, a lot of it is going to be relocated to lower-cost countries, and I'm afraid that's just a fact of life.
	In a statement, Carrier says it's trying to ease the workers' transition.
	Okay.
	Now, instead of having a normal, journalistically balanced report, they bring some stooge on that says, no, too bad.
	We're all going to have to die.
	We're moving out of here.
	You're telling me there is no professor or any counter-argument to, no, we have to leave the country to manufacture because it's too expensive to do it here.
	There's no alternative opinion to that one guy.
	Which you would normally put in a normally balanced news report.
	Are you fooling yourself with these crazy thoughts?
	Please.
	So you normally balance that opinion.
	But no, you put this guy in who says, ah, this is a fool.
	It's folly to even think we're going to keep any factories in this country.
	That was a globalist message for globalists to know that NBC is all in on the globalist side of the equation.
	And they're not going to even...
	They don't even try to remotely balance that with someone else saying something different.
	No, they're all outpedaled to the metal.
	Wide open throttle.
	They're going.
	They're moving for it.
	So we might as well play just to kind of, like, put the icing on the cake, the third part of it.
	In a statement, Carrier says it's trying to ease the workers' transition, providing three years' advance notice of the move and by funding education and retraining programs.
	Some Carrier workers see politics at play.
	They'll say whatever needs to be said to get people's vote, especially in a time like this when we're all losing our jobs.
	If he could come here and save these 1,400 jobs here tomorrow, I'll gladly vote for him again.
	Many of these American workers say they took a gamble on Trump and are now hoping the payoff means winning back their jobs.
	Kevin Tibbles, NBC News, Indianapolis.
	Okay, here's the spot-up words.
	They took a gamble.
	It was a gamble.
	Trump is just a crapshooter.
	He's a gamble.
	The second thing is they finished this thing up in a...
	And with nobody else around as though this is the working class.
	This is the way they see the working class in America.
	They hang out in 1950s style pool halls, which is probably only one in all of Indianapolis.
	And then they have the guys who are the spokespeople.
	Don't forget, this is Indianapolis.
	This is the Midwest.
	In the Midwest, you don't talk like this, like you just got out of Alabama and we're just kind of moving around here.
	We're lucky to be alive.
	Well, South Indiana can get up there.
	Well, this is Indianapolis.
	Oh, okay.
	And so you have the standard, let's find somebody that sounds as stupid as we can find, put them on as representative to kind of insult the piece, and then show this pool room thing, and then have this idiotic little compliment, which was, well, Carrier's going to retrain them.
	Retrain them for what?
	Did the guy have gaps in his teeth?
	Because that would have made the image perfect.
	No, but they had the little soul patch on one guy.
	Oh, beautiful.
	The other guy's like gold teeth on some other guy.
	Beautiful.
	Thank you, NBC. Those guys are going to go all out.
	They're just not going to stop.
	I think if I was Comcast and I was thinking about witnessing this, I would take steps.
	Comcast, who owns NBC, although General Electric still has a minority share as far as I know, Comcast is going to get screwed.
	They're going to get screwed.
	You guys at Comcast, get a clue.
	Yeah, because, well, you know what?
	I got a message yesterday.
	That's interesting you bring that up.
	Let me just see.
	Regarding the transition, here's what I know.
	There's some interesting things.
	First of all, the guy who most likely would become Secretary of Defense is Meese.
	Remember him?
	Ed Meese?
	No.
	Retired Army Brigadier General Michael Meese.
	Oh yeah, yeah, Michael Meese.
	But he was a Petraeus guy.
	And he was, you know, all these guys who got kicked out and were a thorn, I guess, in the side of the military industrial complex.
	Now here's the cool thing that I heard.
	And right after our little executive producer thank you segment, I want to play a few interesting clips.
	But Trump, the word on the inside is he will be reviewing accredited journalists every three months for access to White House briefings.
	So he's going to kick people out.
	Yeah, well he should.
	It's going to be interesting.
	Because, you know, do that to the press, the press will freak out.
	Well, you already have this situation.
	And I think I can do the same teardown with CBS and probably less so with ABC. I'm sure you can, yeah.
	They're already...
	After him, with unreasonable reports, incredibly slanted propaganda, as I pointed out in this little thing here, just a little look.
	So what difference does it make at this point?
	What difference does it make if he kicks out Katie Turr from the press box?
	Well, they'll have something to talk about.
	That's kind of the good thing.
	I guess they'll like it.
	They probably would like it, because it's got to be the boringest meetings.
	Prediction.
	Press purge.
	That's what you're saying.
	Yeah, Stalinist press purge.
	Yeah, they're going to use the word purge.
	Let's make sure that everybody out there who listens to this podcast knows that the word purge, which has all kinds of negative implications, including bulimia, So the word purge, which is a negative word, and it does not engender positive anything, shorts out the brain.
	Isn't that also the movie The Purge?
	Isn't that also that movie?
	I don't know that movie.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's a science fiction once a year.
	I think it's called The Purge.
	Once a year, there's The Purge.
	And then, you know, yes, 2013 dystopian horror film.
	It's worth watching.
	Every year you can go and kill people.
	That's kind of the basic plot.
	I remember the plot of this.
	This is where you have like 24 hours to kill anybody you want.
	And so everybody has to hide out or go on the offensive and start killing people.
	Yeah, I think we should have The Purge 2 coming out pretty soon.
	The Purge.
	I remember that.
	Hold on a second.
	Let's find out what company was behind The Purge.
	Who ran that?
	What?
	Disney.
	That would be very funny, wouldn't it?
	IMDB, The Purge.
	I wonder.
	Let me see.
	Let me see what I've got here.
	I just remembered that.
	This is, hmm, this is Say Who?
	I can't find anything.
	Well, chat room, go work on that for me, will you?
	Let's find out.
	Let's find out.
	Before we take a break, maybe just something a little lighthearted for a moment, although for me personally, extremely, extremely disappointing.
	When you have this group of guys...
	Who have been seen as the rebels.
	Always kicking against society.
	They kicked against the Beatles.
	You could be a Beatlehead.
	Or you could be Rolling Stones and you'd be cool.
	A Beatlehead?
	Beatlehead.
	Or you're a Beatlehead, John.
	You're a Beatlehead.
	So the Rolling Stones are interviewed about Donald Trump.
	And this package was put on Associated Press.
	These guys, and what happened?
	Money must have changed them because they have become little, sniveling, whiny bitches who won't say what's on their mind.
	Everyone outside the US is mystified, I'd say.
	That's the polite word.
	I could say a lot, but this isn't really a place because I can't get into a really good...
	No, you can't get into it.
	I can't get into a good, like, chat with you.
	Discussion about it.
	I don't want to say, you know, superficial and flipped.
	Well, let's try Ron Wood.
	Maybe he's better.
	Wow, that was quite mind-blowing watching from England as well, you know.
	Because we were all shocked and stunned with the Brexit thing, and so I thought, nothing's going to shock me now.
	You know, for all I know, Trump's going to get in.
	Sure enough, he did.
	They had a big mouth using his song, but this is like...
	Let's get Charlie Watson.
	Okay, there will be some changes made.
	Hopefully they'll be good ones.
	Come on, Charlie.
	I don't think he's going to be as radical as he was coming into it.
	You know, making a big thing.
	So I think a lot of what he says is going to be tempered down.
	Because if it isn't, it's going to be a bloody ride for four years.
	No one says anything really disparaging.
	You know, I think that they're being very careful with their eggs.
	Knowing where they have all of their money.
	Finally, we got to...
	Who was the last guy?
	Oh man, I'm totally spacing.
	I've already put them out of my head.
	Yeah, the crazy guitar guy.
	It's a blank spot to me, man.
	I ain't going there.
	I ain't going there, man.
	I ain't going there.
	Lame.
	Yeah, I haven't spread that whole thing.
	I mean, come on, guys.
	You're the Rolling Stones.
	They won't say anything.
	They sound like a bunch of old bankers.
	Yeah, accountants.
	Well, I don't want to ruin my empire or anything like that.
	Yeah, disappointing.
	Disappointing, I say.
	And with that...
	I'd rather hear...
	Wait.
	You brought that one up.
	I'd rather hear from these guys.
	This is the, this is one that hasn't been played up too much in the mainstream media, but there's a huge, you know, a lot of these protesters are anarchists.
	Yeah.
	So it would make sense that you hear something like this from this group of protesters.
	No more president.
	No more president.
	Impeachment.
	We need to stay single for a while as a country.
	We don't need a president.
	We don't want leadership.
	We just want to all get together and not really do much.
	Yay!
	This guy says he wants to just be single for a while as though it's like a dating scene.
	I am putting that in the end of show sequence.
	That is crazy.
	No more president.
	No more president, I tell you.
	We can't have a president in our republic.
	That doesn't work right.
	Well, now I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C! The C stands for College of Electorates Expert.
	Dvorak.
	In the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	All the morning, the boots on the ground.
	And all the dames and knights out there.
	In the morning to the chatroom, noagendastream.com.
	Being helpful, very good.
	Of course, always fighting internally in there.
	It's always fun to watch.
	And in the morning to CZM137, who brought us the artwork for episode 877, The Angries.
	And that was, let's see, this was, oh yeah, this is something that I got a lot of comments on.
	It was democracy, but the C was replaced with a Z, so it was democracy for America.
	I have never seen that particular meme, turning democracy into democracy.
	I've never seen it either.
	I thought it was original.
	Yeah, me too.
	So we thank Season 137 and all the artists who are submitting to noagendaartgenerator.com.
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	Moving up on our triple, we've got 888 coming up.
	880, the big eight celebration, triple producerships.
	Who took advantage of it?
	We got two of them today.
	I took advantage of it.
	Justin Karsk, 880.
	And I had to actually cut and paste his note out of the spreadsheet because otherwise it blew up the spreadsheet.
	It's a little lengthy.
	I'm not going to read part of it.
	Thank you both for your courage and passion.
	I needed de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	I like it.
	It starts off with 880.
	First donation.
	Wow.
	That's awesome.
	My virgin voyage on the best podcast in the universe was episode 232.
	Well, he's been around.
	You hooked me in hard at first listen.
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	Well, that's unusual.
	Most at first listen, people think we're a morning zoo show.
	I don't know what has taken me so long to donate.
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	You both are much deserving of every dime of this donation.
	After all, the two of you let absolutely nothing get in the way of providing fantastically pertinent media deconstruction and analysis in an unadulterated format that seems so inconceivable to most.
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	Here's a scary thought.
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	I have so much other than that, than this show to be grateful for.
	I have been both an associate executive producer and executive producer for Great Ideas Radio, or somebody else.
	That's interesting.
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	I can't thank Void Zero and...
	Mountain Vortex.
	Mountain Vortex enough for the work that they do to keep things going.
	For all of us, not to mention the terrific creative commons music curation that Sir Rhino the Bearded provides the 00 show every Friday night.
	It's a 00 show.
	I don't know.
	I don't...
	And the kick-ass merchandise that noagenda.com offers to help me stylishly propagate the formula.
	Anyway, it goes on after that.
	He does have some requests for...
	Yeah, he's got quite a sequence here.
	Yeah, it's a long one.
	I have them also.
	He wants a hey-hey, hold-up, okey-doke.
	We don't have a mix of hey-hey, hold-up, okey-doke, but I do have an okey-doke, hey-hey, which I'll play a bit of and I'll put at the end of the show sequence.
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	And we really appreciate your support of the program.
	Don't forget it's dedouching.
	I did the dedouching.
	Oh, I paid no attention.
	If we turn against each other based on divisions of big race, of big religion, of big, of big.
	If we fall for.
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	Get out of my vagina.
	Whooping, whooping, whooping, whooping, whooping, whooping, whooping, whooping, what the Constitution?
	Down.
	Atlas drugs.
	By Ayn Rand.
	Jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's go for jobs.
	You stop.
	Come on.
	Nice delay.
	Wait, wait, what?
	Down the...
	Well, what, you stopped it, so that sound that's on there didn't come in too late?
	I didn't hear it.
	It's all good.
	We love you.
	Also, for Justin, he's bitching about my promises to do the train museum trip meetup, so I'm going to work on that.
	My wife is also complaining about this.
	She wants to get you out of the house.
	Yeah, well, there's that.
	Ray Martin in Dothan, I think, Alabama, 880.
	He's our other 880 triple executive producer.
	The last 12 months of the show, he writes, have been fantastic.
	I've been listening early on, and I let the $5 PayPal sub stay broken.
	I don't know what that means.
	So please graciously give me karma.
	It feels good to support the dollar-for-dollar model and the BPC and the best podcasts in the universe.
	Very short, sweet.
	He also says he wants a climate gate.
	Oh, no, no, I'm sorry.
	I'm one ahead.
	I'm sorry.
	What did he want?
	Karma?
	He just wants karma.
	Karma?
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	There you go.
	You've got karma.
	Got it.
	There we go.
	Sir Semi-Anonymous in Sunnyvale, California, 333.88.
	Fell off the ship around the end of last year, he says, and got back on a couple of months ago.
	The election coverage has been entertaining, and I'm glad to have found out about the Congressional Dish and Grimerica podcast.
	I'm curious to know if you guys discussed Julian Assange's book, When Google Met WikiLeaks.
	Briefly, maybe?
	Yeah.
	I would like to get a climate gate.
	Wee!
	Jobs karma clip combo.
	That would be much appreciated.
	Thank you for your courage, your semi-anonymous.
	P.S. Anomaly...
	I don't think he wants us to read that.
	Okay.
	To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
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	Olaf Wolf in München, Deutschland, 3333.
	This is Munich to you.
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	They don't need to worry.
	These donations won't impact their presence.
	Hey, kids!
	No presents this Christmas, but guess what?
	You got a shout-out on the No Agenda show.
	That's my guest in the universe.
	Aren't you so happy?
	Yeah.
	What's wrong with these kids?
	Now it's time for the second one of this year, November 15th.
	Quentin is celebrating his ninth birthday.
	All right.
	Please include him on your birthday.
	This is where we got him.
	You're covering the election with Simply Great, the deconstruction and analysis of the international Excuse me, the international media campaign for HRC really helped me to keep my mental health.
	And he's in Germany!
	Your mental hygiene.
	Oh, he said mental health.
	It's unbelievable how German mainstream media and politicians are struggling with the democratic vote.
	With a Democratic vote.
	In other words, I can't believe Trump got elected.
	Yeah.
	With this donation, I finally finished my first knighthood.
	I'd like to be known...
	Oh, do we have him on there?
	I'm not so sure.
	Let me check.
	I don't think so.
	He wants to be known as Sir Walwo.
	Walwo.
	W-O-L-W-O. Guardian of the Bavarian Beer Brewers.
	Now, I'm guessing he may be one of the guys who makes those delicious pilsners there in Deutschland.
	Yeah, he's on the list.
	I got him.
	So, I want to find out.
	Yeah.
	Not that he can ship us any, but if we ever show...
	I mean, we go to Munich once in a while, I'm sure.
	Yeah.
	Show up, have a beer.
	That'll be getting out of the house.
	Yeah, yeah, that's true.
	So, I guess that's not happening anytime soon.
	Thomas Sir Duke Thomas Nussbaum Grand...
	No, not Grant.
	It's an Archduke, I believe.
	And we have a Nussbaum thing to yell.
	Nussbaum!
	314.59 in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
	No karma, thank goodness JCD didn't block me after the ant rant.
	It seems popular.
	I love that one.
	My favorite.
	He says this is a pie donation because he can.
	Much love to Brian and working on my Arch...
	Oh, he's working on his Archduke.
	You already have the jingle for him.
	Okay, no karma.
	This is good.
	Thank you very much.
	The big man.
	The big man on campus, Sir Nussbaum.
	Brian Barrow in Royal Wooten Bassett in Wiltshire, UK. 23456 from Black Knight, Sir Brian Barrow.
	I'll send a note in.
	Did you receive any notes?
	I don't know.
	I gotta figure this out.
	I don't think I have a note.
	Borrow.
	I do not have a note from you.
	My keyboard.
	Have you lost your keyboard again?
	There it is.
	Yes, I put it on the floor in various locations.
	Okay, let's see.
	Brian Barrow, donation note.
	Dear, dear guys.
	Sir Brian, he loves being a black knight.
	Hey John and Adam, sending you this donation.
	Thank you for your excellent work over the years, and especially through the election cycle.
	I have now watched through three recent elections, UK, General, Brexit, and now the US presidential, with grim satisfaction as I realized that once again the pundits and journalists were wrong people.
	Because they bought into their own narrative.
	Or they bought into somebody's narrative.
	I don't think it was theirs.
	Last Tuesday night, I settled down to watch the BBC coverage of the elections.
	I was surprised to see that despite the top three issues of concern, two voters being one, the economy, two, terrorism, and three, immigration, the Beeb spent the next three hours inferring a Hillary win because of a massive support from women.
	Excuse me.
	From women, Latino women and millennials.
	Nothing about the top issues.
	Nothing!
	Then they spend the rest of the night trying to understand why Trump was appearing to be winning and refusing to call states for him long after the others had done so.
	Even worse, the voters on the losing side still can't understand why people don't agree with them and are crying and calling for a do-over.
	You have held my powers of critical thinking, and for that, I am grateful.
	Keep up work.
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	One word to Sean Connolly, 23456.
	That's nice.
	Nice number.
	We have three 23456s.
	This is interesting.
	Sean Connolly is in the U.S. somewhere.
	Tempest and Teapot, I'm on a monthly plan, but wanted to...
	Chip in.
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	Well, look at all those characters.
	It's the non-double-biting coded crap from PayPal.
	Extra for the...
	I think those are quotes.
	I think you must be right.
	For the excellent election...
	Election coverage.
	There's the kind of quotes that go in the opposite direction so they actually work.
	Election coverage provided by the best podcast universe.
	I was thinking the other day about how the millennials might have fared in the late 1930s Europe.
	Between screaming at the panzers to respect their safe spaces and forgiving the zeros at Pearl Harbor because their culture had been appropriated, I'm sure we'd live in a better world today had they been there to provide us with the wisdom and enlightened viewpoints.
	That was read in the style it was meant to be read in.
	If you would, please give me the Violent Femmes acoustic version of Adam is going to read the Face Bag and the Beatles cover of Shape Shifting Jews.
	Please keep up with the great work, Sir Sean.
	I think this is it.
	I haven't played this in a while.
	When Adam needs to make an example of some typical slaves, he just reads the comments on their Facebook page.
	Gonna read Facebook.
	Gonna lose some brain cells.
	Gonna read Facebook.
	Gonna read comments from shills.
	Beautiful.
	And we'll top this one off for you.
	Come on, everybody!
	You've got karma.
	Good combo.
	That first one makes me think you should read more from Facebag just so you can play that.
	Just so I can play the jingle.
	Yeah.
	Got it.
	I got some Facebag for you today if you're interested.
	Do you now?
	Oh yeah.
	I got a horrible Facebag.
	Okay.
	Well, there you go.
	Ben Smith in Greenville, Texas is in with 23456.
	He's the third one.
	ITM, gents, thanks for the cogent and compelling analysis of the recent election.
	Nobody is putting the pieces together like you guys.
	Thank you.
	Guess the rest of the media has to keep their commercial-driven masters happy.
	Can't believe there are listeners going overboard.
	Your twice-weekly dose of truth is priceless.
	Ben KF5SWC73. S73 is Kilo 5, Alpha Charlie Charlie.
	I'll give him a Karma.
	You've got Karma.
	All right.
	Amanda Rossette in Rockville, Connecticut, 201-02, which is a palindrome.
	She did send a note in.
	She also has a note that she's going to be a knight dame.
	She sent a very nice note in, and she attached to it with something I'll read maybe later in the show or the next show, because it's just really fantastic.
	It's her 33 things I love about no agenda.
	Oh, 33 things.
	Perfect.
	And number seven, I'll read, inspired me to become a ham.
	Now extra.
	Whoa!
	That's what I said.
	Whoa!
	Where's your call letters in here?
	I don't see them.
	She became an extra?
	Are you kidding me?
	Even Adam hasn't gone that far.
	No, and that's just laziness or lack of time, I guess.
	But wow!
	I'm going to talk about becoming a ham later for people who need to go become one.
	I think it was a good idea.
	I do want to talk about that because it's very simple to get the tech license.
	If you move up, it's a little harder to become extra.
	That actually requires work.
	Yeah.
	And study.
	It does.
	Dear JC and ACD, I'm proud to announce that this donation of 201 brings me to the Damehood.
	It's an honor and a privilege to be seated amongst the Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	I respectfully request that I'm henceforth called Dame Amanda of the Nor'East.
	Very nice.
	Nor'East as in the Cyclonic Snowstorms.
	Unique to the Northeastern USA and Japan.
	I have corresponded with her before.
	She is Kilo Charlie One Echo Echo Romeo.
	She put a bunch of stickers all over everything.
	These little soft, spongy stickers.
	Have you ever seen these things?
	No.
	It's a big birthday cake at the bottom of this.
	A celebratory cake for old dames and knights.
	It's a big giant sticker that's like a spongy thing.
	It's very, very cute.
	No agenda has been with me for many years.
	It's been a catalyst for so many positive things in my life.
	Therefore, I would thought it appropriate to celebrate this momentous occasion by listing out 33 things I love.
	And now she requests the following jingles.
	Sorry to catch you off guard.
	Well, before I read those off, I'll tell you what they are.
	You can line them up as I read more.
	Ebola Calypso, 3x3, and Fear is Freedom.
	And she says, here's to nine more fantastic years of the best podcast in the universe and many more to come, 73 and Love and Light.
	P.S. For my knighthood ceremony, I thought it would be best to provide the proper pronunciation for my name, which is Rosette.
	Rosette, I think is the way to pronounce it.
	Like the tiny little flowers decorating in the middle of a bra.
	What was the first one she wanted again?
	Ebola Calypso.
	Ebola.
	Yeah.
	Ebola.
	Cause diarrhea.
	Yeah, but it's not labeled.
	Did we not label that as Calypso at some point because I went through this a million times?
	I don't know if we did.
	We should have if we didn't.
	Anyway, I'll read the 33 items.
	Yeah, you read that and I'll look for this.
	Okay, I can read the 33 items now.
	Just read a couple of them.
	Well, they're all good.
	The problem is it's got a punchline.
	I'll read some of them though.
	No ads.
	Number one.
	Two.
	Watching C-SPAN so I don't have to.
	Number three, notes from producers.
	Number four, the chat room.
	Number five, when Adam says fuck the chat room.
	Six, fabulous jingles that get stuck in my head.
	Seven, inspired me to become a ham.
	Now extra.
	Eight, enhanced my critical thinking.
	Nine, inspired me to go out there and hit people in the mouth.
	Ten, John's yearly telling of the story of Thanksgiving.
	Eleven, when JCD shares a recipe.
	Twelve, boots on the reporting from Euroland.
	Boots on the ground reporting from Euroland.
	Thirteen, remediating the legislation so I don't have to.
	Fourteen, the guys in the back office, void zero, the shill, etc.
	The rare yet momentous JCDF bomb.
	You know, see, you've got blah, blah, blah.
	16.
	JCD's array of instruments.
	Bring back the automaton.
	I have to get the batteries for that.
	17.
	Climate denier.
	Cut three.
	18.
	The fat lady.
	19.
	Sanco de Mayo.
	20.
	Six hours a week of unmatched entertainment.
	21, the bi-weekly newsletter.
	22, Adam's Dutch person speaking English.
	Hey, thanks, man.
	It's great that you donated to the show.
	Thanks, man.
	Cool, cool.
	23, second half of the show.
	24, news clips from places I wouldn't hear otherwise.
	25, risking your health and sanity to bring us ISOs from The View.
	26, album art.
	27, the invaluable show notes.
	28, karma.
	It works.
	Twenty-nine, a rockin' harmonica solo.
	Thirty, learning about the inner workings of media companies.
	Thirty-one, introduce me to Grimerica, Congressional Disch, and DHU. Thirty-two, the only tech news I need.
	And thirty-three, the magic number.
	And now it's time for 3x3.
	Experiment by JCD. Comparing stories from ABC, CBS, and NBC. The never-ending three-by-three.
	Fear is freedom.
	Subjugation is liberation.
	Contradiction is truth.
	Those are the facts of this world.
	And you will all surrender to them, you pigs and humans.
	You've got karma.
	All right, got it.
	Nice.
	Miller Strauss in Cape Town, South Africa.
	$200.56.
	Great place to go.
	I speak South Afrikaans.
	I see.
	Hi John and Adam.
	The past few months of shows have been outstanding.
	Thank you.
	And I very much look forward to the next four years of shows.
	Have you noticed this meme coming up about four years?
	We got to quit, I guess, in the 13th year, I guess.
	I'm not sure.
	Your show is the island of reason in a sea of millennials crying their eyes out because Trump has now been elected president.
	It's not even localized to the U.S. Even in South Africa, people are freaking out because the media here has also made him out as the worst thing possible.
	Can I get an employment visa karma?
	Because I got a job in Deutschland and now I have to wait to get the visa approved.
	P.S. I want to say thank you to all the jingle and song creators.
	You guys are great.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Visa karma.
	Amanda Toodle in Chillicote, Ohio, 200.
	Uh...
	Friday, I want to thank...
	What is this?
	Zero.
	Did I miss the beginning of this thing?
	Oh, there it is.
	This donation is in honor of my funny, sexy, smart husband for his 30th birthday.
	And on Friday, I want to thank him for hitting me in the mouth and having me listen in the car to what I first called a talking thing or the talking thing.
	Is that what a podcast is?
	The talking thing?
	The talking thing.
	Yeah.
	He listens on his commute, but will...
	Oh, and it gets cut off.
	It gets cut off.
	Oh, man.
	That's lame.
	Stupid PayPal.
	It doesn't cut everybody off.
	I don't know what causes this.
	Anyway, well, we'll listen to anything she has in mind.
	I think I know what she has in mind for this.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	Well, I'm not going to say.
	It's going to...
	That's one more.
	You've got karma.
	I took some liberal artistic license there and figured that would be okay.
	That's so kind of you, Amanda.
	That concludes our executive associate executive producers for show 878.
	We've got two shows before we get to show 880, which is a pretty lucky show, I would assume.
	It's going to be on Thanksgiving.
	How about that?
	Looking forward to it.
	We do have another show coming up.
	I will be coming to you from Florida.
	Florida.
	It's the big show the boyfriend to the old girlfriends in Florida trip.
	It's also vacation and we're just going to hang out.
	We've always been to places where I've been and I've never been to.
	I've been to Florida.
	Where are you going to Florida?
	Boca.
	Boca, Fort Lauderdale.
	We're going to see Horowitz.
	You're not going to take the drive to Orlando?
	For what?
	Go to the Universal Park.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, thanks.
	Never been there.
	Never done that.
	I'm sure Tina, who lived there for 12 years, never been there.
	No, no, no, no.
	That's weird.
	So it's going to be fun.
	Airbnb, and so hopefully the internet will be good.
	And I look forward to that.
	That is going to be Sunday.
	We want to thank our executive producers and associate executive producers who stepped up big time today, bigly.
	Oh, by the way, just so you know, people, we're in on the joke.
	The amount of emails I get from, he's not saying Bigly, he's saying Big League.
	Really?
	Gee.
	Yeah, I've gotten a couple of times.
	That's amazing to me.
	I like Bigly better.
	I don't know why people are complaining.
	Bigly is fantastic.
	I use it all the time.
	It's a great word.
	Thor.
	Bigly.
	There you go.
	Dvorak.org slash N-A. Another segment coming up at the end of the show.
	Thank everybody else for above $50.
	Until then, propagate the formula!
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Order!
	Order!
	Squirrels!
	Shut up, Slade!
	Shut up, Slade!
	Now, there was a little bit of deconstruction, well, not really deconstruction, but just showing you how insane it is right now, and then we've got to move away from this, but insane, I tell you, with the press.
	The press really think they are incredibly important.
	Now, I'm sure that you caught wind of this, John, but apparently Trump gave the press corps the slip.
	He gave the press corps the slip.
	I know you're going to have a clip.
	I should have had a clip on this.
	It bugged them so much.
	They said, oh, it's against the law.
	Well, I have a number of clips we need to play to get them.
	They were really freaking out.
	So what he did is he slipped away from the press pool that is following him and went to have dinner with his family and a couple of friends, I guess.
	And so here is breaking news.
	I had a huge, I swear to God, you can look at the clip in the show notes, 878.noagendanotes.com.
	Big lower third.
	Donald Trump has dinner!
	Whoa!
	Wow, turn up the sound, honey.
	Sir Murray joins us now from Trump Tower, whereas I understand the president-elect just left without telling pretty much anyone anything.
	Is that right?
	That is correct.
	His press pool was given a lid for the evening, which normally suggests that Donald Trump isn't going anywhere.
	He's sticking around Trump Tower.
	But Trump apparently had other plans.
	He decided to go out to dinner without alerting some of his key staffers as well as the press.
	And it appears to be yet another misunderstanding of exactly how much gravity his new title as president-elect holds.
	Oh, he doesn't understand.
	This millennial is very irritating.
	He doesn't understand the gravity of what I'm told.
	You know, if, God forbid, something were to happen to him, that is a matter not only of public record, but also a matter of national security, given if he was next in line to take the White House.
	And we only know where he is because I think a reporter was in the restaurant that he actually happened to suddenly show up in and sent out a photo, right?
	Well, that's right.
	There are folks in this restaurant who put photos out on Twitter.
	You know, I think this is the new normal that no one famous can go anywhere without being spotted by someone else.
	Gee, this woman just discovered Twitter and social networks.
	Oh, it's the new normal!
	We'll just take pictures of you and they publish them.
	It's crazy what's happening.
	No one famous can go anywhere without being spotted by someone else.
	And folks put out photos showing Donald Trump in this restaurant to a standing ovation.
	So that's how we know where Donald Trump is right now.
	But obviously not a normal situation when you're talking about dealing with a president-elect normally in these situations.
	Whether the person likes it or not, we understand.
	It can be a difficult thing to get used to having a pool of reporters follow you everywhere.
	But...
	You know, this is part of what being the president-elect is about.
	You no longer get to have the same level of privacy you did as a normal citizen, even if your life as a normal citizen was being a celebrity, Anderson.
	So the press...
	This is unbelievable.
	Before you go to the next clip, I had to comment on a couple of these.
	Why has it got anything to do with national security or safety?
	Are they going to take a bullet for him?
	Is some press guy going to run in front of a guy with a gun?
	The press needs to know!
	We need to inform the public!
	They also kind of minimized the fact that he got a standing ovation in the restaurant, which I thought was kind of interesting.
	Also, how about doing some actual reporting?
	What restaurant was this?
	Yeah.
	I'd like to know.
	The printed 21, Club 21.
	It was at 21 Club?
	21 Club, yeah.
	Although I also saw a report it was at Keen's, and I looked at the picture, and it could have been Keen's, I'm not sure.
	I've been to 21 a couple of times.
	I've been to 21 and Keene's.
	Oh, okay.
	I've never been to Keene's.
	But this whole assassination thing, God forbid something could happen.
	Oh, my goodness.
	We need to be there.
	It's national security.
	We need to report on national security.
	We would immediately have to cover Pence.
	And these people are full of themselves.
	She also said something that was the pool of reporters.
	It was something she said at the end there.
	It was like...
	I know exactly what she said.
	She said, you know, we'll just have to get used to it.
	You have no privacy, even less than when you're a celebrity.
	That's bullcrap.
	He can do whatever he wants.
	He's the president.
	He doesn't have to have this.
	He could tell these guys to get lost.
	And this is what's going to be so funny when he does his three-month review and says, you out.
	Go away.
	You can't follow me anymore.
	Bloomberg...
	Took the whole assassination thing to another level.
	Bloomberg!
	Not telling the press pool about the president-elect's whereabouts is, of course, a major break in protocol.
	Protocol.
	One that the White House corresponds to.
	Protocol.
	Is this written?
	Is this codified, this protocol?
	Was this taking place during the Lincoln administration?
	What protocol?
	When did this become a protocol?
	Hey, man!
	The press, he escaped to Gettysburg without us!
	Not telling the press pool about the president-elect's whereabouts is, of course, a major break in protocol and one that the White House corresponded.
	I'm never going to get past that.
	You've played it over and over.
	I'm going to say the same thing.
	Whose protocol?
	When did this become protocol?
	When they decided there was protocol.
	Who's they?
	The press.
	The press think they run the show.
	This is showing you how imbecile they are.
	Now, please, you can say it, but I'm gonna play it again.
	Not telling the press pool about the president-elect's whereabouts is, of course, a major break in protocol and one that the White House Correspondents Association called, quote, unacceptable in its statement about Trump's excursion.
	This was not the first time that Trump has shunned his traveling press corps.
	He's done it as a candidate and as president-elect.
	We need to be with the President-elect and the President of the United States, not because we're trying to bother him, but because it is our job to cover him.
	And in the world in which we live, it's- Kennedy assassination, 9-11.
	Reagan assassination attempts.
	It's just essential that this exists.
	I think what they're saying is, when someone takes a pot shot at this guy, we gotta have the scoop.
	We need the blood first.
	What else are they saying?
	That's exactly what they're saying.
	We need shots of him when he's killed, when he's been assassinated.
	That's disgusting.
	Yeah.
	But that's exactly what they're saying.
	Oh, yeah.
	Here's, well, it was also breaking news on MSNBC. Tonight, dinner with his family became a media scramble when Donald Trump finally left Trump Tower after days inside, but he left unannounced, and he left the reporters whose job it is to cover his every movement in the dark.
	So we begin this evening with the curious case of Donald Trump making a run for it in the dark New York night.
	Motorcade and NYPD in tow.
	Our intrepid-- Making a run for it in the dark New York nights.
	PD in tow.
	Our intrepid correspondent, NBC's Hallie Jackson, caught up with him and his family in the dining room at the 21 Club tonight.
	I'm sure they were thrilled to see you.
	Hallie is just back and joins us.
	Let me, even as someone who covered a president, in this case Bill Clinton, who loves giving reporters the slip, let me be devil's advocate for the folks watching at home.
	We always cheer for the guy who gives the posse the slip in the movies.
	Perfect.
	It's very Butch Cassidy.
	It's very Springsteen lyric.
	So why...
	What Springsteen lyric?
	What Springsteen lyric is celebrating the guy giving the posse the slip?
	I have no idea.
	Rosalita?
	I mean, come on.
	Cheer for the guy who gives the posse the slip in the movies.
	It's very Butch Cassidy.
	It's very Springsteen lyric.
	So why is it so important to those of us in the news media?
	Yes!
	Good question.
	Why?
	And more importantly, and just as importantly, why should somebody sitting at home right now that's not a member of the media care?
	Because that's the question, because I think that you will see Donald Trump this entire campaign, and now as president-elect, has sort of had an adversarial, at times, relationship with the media.
	Here's the deal.
	The president-elect, Donald Trump, has every right to a private dinner with his family in New York.
	The point of having a small pool of journalists cover his movements is to act as a conduit to the American people, essentially.
	Everybody in the nation knows where he is, because that is something that happens when you are going to be President of the United States.
	People want to know where you are.
	I don't care.
	I don't care where he is.
	I don't care that he...
	I mean, it's interesting he went to 21, but...
	I don't care.
	...in the United States.
	People want to know where you are.
	God forbid, in case of a potential worst-case scenario or some sort of attack on the nation, you need to know where the president is, one would imagine.
	It just hit me.
	I know what the problem is.
	It just hit me, of course.
	Because what did we see when this happened?
	We saw, and she mentioned it, we saw photos taken by people and sold to newspapers.
	The press don't want to be scooped by paparazzi and the public.
	That's all this is about.
	They hate the fact that they are not in control.
	That they are not in control of the messaging.
	They already hate the whole Twitter thing.
	And the paparazzi are winning.
	Guaranteed National Enquirer will have a full spread of the Trump family, whoever else is there.
	With the dinner, with the food.
	What do you order?
	I don't know.
	We're going to find out.
	The kind of stuff these guys would love to know.
	That's what's happening here.
	Yeah, they're paparazzi.
	They're not journalists.
	Finally...
	There was a conversation.
	The editor of The Hollywood Reporter, and the conversation here was, we need to stop talking about ourselves.
	So that was nice.
	That feels good.
	Yes, please stop talking about yourselves.
	That is certainly a valid point that he is not the president.
	It's also a valid point that he has only been the president-elect for a week.
	It is a third valid point that all the press has talked about is this for the last 24 hours.
	Again, and I would say this is a red flag warning, stop.
	We have to stop talking about ourselves.
	It's not about us.
	And unless we learn that, we're going to continue to go down the road, find ourselves in the position that we found ourselves last year.
	Michael, let me ask you this.
	He's talked about a hundred other things in the last 24 hours.
	Yes, I've talked about a lot of things.
	But nevertheless, they have talked in enormous about something 8-point.
	Michael, he made a mistake last night.
	He made a mistake.
	His administration made a mistake.
	They should have brought the press with him.
	I was a mistake.
	I don't think that they should have brought the press.
	That's the Brian Seltzer guy who does the media show on CNN. Listen to him.
	They should have brought the press with him.
	I was a mistake.
	I don't think that they should have brought the press with him at all.
	I was about to say, he doesn't have one yet.
	He has a press secretary.
	I think it's ridiculous.
	As a matter of fact, I have listened to this for the past eight days.
	I have listened to this again and again that they should have done this.
	Why?
	I don't know why they should have done this.
	What is the advantage?
	So no one has an answer.
	At least the Hollywood Reporter guy is saying, why?
	Yeah.
	Now, all of this did lead to one little bit on MSNBC, which I thought was interesting for two reasons.
	One, they got a really good bit.
	And it's also something you don't hear very much.
	A millennial Trump supporter freaking out on the press saying, I would say pretty much equal to the protesting children.
	Just complete freak out.
	Just so that you can hear that, yeah, there's some crazy millennials on the Trump side too.
	So these guys are interviewing one of the protesters.
	This girl walks by and just starts ripping on the guy.
	Anything to aid his campaign?
	I mean, I don't support him.
	No, I know.
	Make sure you get that on camera, all right?
	No, but you don't get that interview.
	That's not what bigotry means.
	You just get that on camera.
	That's not what bigotry means.
	That's not what bigotry means.
	Educate yourself.
	Why don't you get it on camera instead of editing?
	Instead of editing his $1 million a month anonymous feed the children donations.
	Why don't you get that on camera?
	Why don't you get it on camera?
	That he recruited immigrants to help him build towers so he could put them up.
	You don't get that on camera, right?
	This is what you get on camera.
	This is what you get on camera, right?
	And you edit it accordingly.
	You wait until they bait him, and then you edit it, right?
	You don't include the fact that we have an awesome, awesome president now who took a step down from unappreciated motherf*****s.
	Okay?
	Unappreciative.
	What's your name?
	Oh, you'll edit it.
	You'll edit it and portray it as something totally different than what it really is.
	Right?
	So you're not getting my name.
	You're getting a f*** you.
	You don't give it.
	You don't give it as it really is.
	You don't give it or portray it as it really is.
	A good man with a good, awesome heart that traveled the world feeding the kids.
	You f*ing mother f*er.
	Thank you.
	Okay, clip of the day.
	Thank you.
	Clip of the day.
	Man, she's dyno.
	And she was hot, too.
	That made it even better.
	Oh, she was good looking?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Hilarious.
	She's just laying into him.
	Yeah.
	Just as crazy as the rest.
	Just as crazy as the rest.
	Really beautiful.
	I really enjoyed that.
	Right?
	Right?
	That was so funny.
	You're going to edit this, right?
	Right.
	I want to mention a couple of things.
	Since we're talking about Trump ditching.
	Ditching.
	The word no one used, ditching.
	That's what he did.
	You know, you ditch your buddy.
	You do this.
	You know, this is what guys do.
	You ditch people.
	Ditch him.
	Yeah.
	What are we going to do with this guy?
	Let's ditch him.
	Let's ditch him.
	You ditch him.
	Oh, I know.
	Where'd you go?
	Where'd you go?
	Franklin Roosevelt had a train line underneath in Manhattan.
	It's still there.
	Oh, that's right.
	Yeah, I remember that.
	The Waldorf Astoria.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That he could go into this train and then take off.
	And his own car was there.
	His own train car, wasn't it?
	Yes, he had his own train car, and the train went under the city, and it was a spur off, I guess, one of the nearby terminals.
	It was a spur, and it's still there, underneath the Waldorf Astoria, into a special elevator that took him to a private area, so he can get in and out of there, and he can be very private.
	I was lucky, as one of my little stories, I had met up with, or got friends with one of the women secretaries that worked in the Canadian government.
	Well, first things first.
	But was she hot?
	She was extremely hot.
	So I went to...
	She showed me...
	Mackenzie, the Premier of Canada from some years ago, Prime Minister, he...
	His offices, which are now the offices of the opposition, are still there.
	They're beautiful.
	There is a secret door, which he took me through out to the back, which I thought was just great, because I've been to a couple different secret doors.
	I went to the secret doors in Wintoon, where Hearst used to go.
	The original William Randolph, I should sneak into this.
	It's through a closet.
	And he'd wander around in Marion Davies' apartment.
	But this one, it was behind the bookshelf, and you move the books, and the whole bookshelf kind of opened up, and you go into this little opening, and up the steps, and then down some steps in the back, they get into a waiting car so you could ditch the press, because apparently McKenzie would have a huge throng come up, and then he couldn't stave him off long enough, couldn't say, no, no, I'm I'll be out there.
	Yeah, he had some excuse to keep them at bay, but then they'd rush the place, apparently.
	But he'd be gone through his exit.
	So this is nothing new to ditch the press.
	And I think Trump should just ditch him all the time.
	Well, he's going to ditch him selectively.
	You're out.
	You're fired.
	You're off.
	You're voted off the island.
	Not on the press island.
	It's going to be fun.
	Viewer, you mentioned Scandinavia.
	I happen to have two Scandinavia clips.
	And I haven't asked John as my second clip.
	The first one would be, for all of those thinking of moving to Canada, because of course, you know, it's much better there.
	We all know this.
	But maybe it's not!
	The debate over Canada's surveillance laws is growing.
	Canadians are being given a document that is strongly biased.
	The commissioner of the RCMP knows there are many critics of proposals to expand police digital powers.
	It's not like we're trying to trick our way into people's privacy.
	He's been lobbying the Prime Minister's office asking for changes.
	A top priority?
	A new law to let police look up a person's basic digital subscriber information, like a name and IP address, without a warrant.
	He likens it to looking up a driver on a highway.
	We can query license and we can get the subscriber of a car and we keep records of all that and we're accountable for that.
	I don't think it's unreasonable.
	But a warrantless system would roll back a recent court ruling.
	Basic subscriber information has been stated by no less than the Supreme Court of Canada to have reasonable expectations of privacy because it has the potential to link to other kinds of information that is exceptionally intimate and private.
	I have no trouble with the police getting the information providing they jump certain hurdles.
	The real problem is, what hurdles should they have to jump in order to get this information?
	Hurdles high enough that it provides real protection for a citizen's privacy.
	Police are looking for another major change, a law that would force phone and internet companies to retain users' text, email, and phone records.
	That we would only access, you know, with warrant, but it has to be there, because there's nothing worse than trying to go and recreate somebody's movements through cell sites or to deduce who the offender is, and the data's all been destroyed.
	In principle, I think it's wrong.
	This researcher warns the data collection is highly invasive.
	I mean, it would be equally very helpful to have a surveillance camera in every room that we were in, and police would never access it, ever, except under judicial warrant when they know something has gone wrong.
	But I don't think that many Canadians want a surveillance camera in every room they're in because something might go wrong.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Hey Canada, welcome to 2012.
	You finally got your surveillance state.
	Ah!
	Well, the camera thing's a bit much.
	Yeah, but they want content of emails.
	They want to track your movement through cell sites.
	They already do that.
	Just like us.
	It's just like us.
	So it's not that much better.
	Now, there's a law in Canada that people want to repeal because it is, of course, sexist and put any more ists out there.
	Islamophobic?
	No, not necessarily.
	It's more against LGBT. It's anti-gay.
	Oh, it's anti-gay.
	Tell me what this 30-second clip.
	Tell me what this law is about and what the Canadians are trying to overturn.
	Well, I can't speak to why this section wasn't changed before, but several four appellate courts and two lower courts across the country have deemed Section 159 unconstitutional.
	And this piece of legislation is about ensuring that we eliminate discrimination, ensure equality, and it is about time that 159 was repealed from the criminal code, and I hope very much that this piece of legislation moves through quickly.
	Okay, I hope you didn't look it up.
	I didn't look up anything.
	I could barely follow it.
	Okay, so you have no...
	No, about 159.
	Yeah, because it's discriminatory against LGBTQ+. Okay.
	Any idea what it is?
	It's bathroom signage law?
	No, I'll give you two more.
	You're going to make me guess twice?
	Yeah.
	It's about...
	Okay, that's probably something crazy, or you wouldn't have brought the clip up in the first place.
	Yeah.
	So let's see.
	It's about terminology.
	In other words, I call myself Zee.
	It's about driving on the right side of the road.
	Apparently, this law in Canada, which the LGBT community and allies would like to overturn, is the fact that anal sex is illegal under the age of 18 and only between a man and a woman.
	So this, of course, is discriminatory against people who happen to like that.
	Well, I guess men who like it with other men or women somehow with other women.
	Well, under 18 in general.
	And under 18 and young.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I just thought that was...
	And we have those laws here.
	We have state laws like that.
	So they want to legalize what I think...
	I know Canada used to have a very low age of consent years ago, but I think they've jacked it up because the United States has been pushing 18 around the world, even though...
	Well, the Vatican, of course, is 13.
	Vatican City.
	Yeah, well, it sounds right.
	Yeah.
	So the U.S. wants 18 because they figure everyone under 18 is an idiot.
	So they want to purge a law that is encouraging law-breaking?
	No, they want to remove that one particular clause from the law.
	They like little boys?
	Is that what you're saying about the Canadians?
	Someone out there does.
	Someone does.
	18 is not necessarily a little boy.
	And then finally, it's shocking to me.
	Shocking.
	Because I'm a big fan.
	I'm a fan of the Sutherlands.
	I'm a fan of Kiefer.
	I'm a fan of Donald.
	I've always been a fan of those guys.
	Kiefer, I have to say, but I've been watching the Designated Survivor series.
	He's starting to get on my nerves.
	Sadly.
	Hey.
	Welcome to the club.
	Yeah.
	And Donald Sutherland, he was on the Today Show.
	This really blew my mind.
	Helen Mirren came up to me on a set.
	She said, you are the most privileged person on earth.
	I said, how can you say that?
	And she said, you are a white male.
	Oh.
	And your reply to that was?
	There's no reply.
	I was ashamed.
	I was stunned.
	And I have gotten more ashamed.
	It's interesting to realize that you are seen as an integral part of a group that many of whom are mendacious, misogynist, bigots, racists.
	And it's appalling.
	For grandchildren, what do you tell them to give them a hopeful view of life?
	How can I give them a hopeful view?
	Now, how can I give them a hopeful view?
	I have a wife.
	I have a daughter.
	I have a daughter-in-law and a granddaughter.
	The kicker is coming.
	What do I say to them?
	What do I say to them?
	Their women's rights are gone?
	You know, the environment is gone?
	Minimum pay?
	John, wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	Listen to what this guy is saying.
	It's already all gone.
	He's already, you know, past the Trump administration.
	What do I say to them?
	What do I say to them?
	Their women's rights are gone?
	Women's rights are gone!
	John, can you double check on that for me?
	I'm looking right now.
	I didn't know about this.
	This is breaking news.
	That's right, everybody.
	Breaking news.
	We have Donald Sutherland who has discovered that women's rights are gone.
	Gone.
	Gone.
	I have a wife.
	I have a daughter.
	I have a daughter-in-law and a granddaughter.
	What do I say to them?
	What do I say to them?
	Their women's rights are gone?
	Yeah.
	You know, the environment is gone?
	The environment is gone.
	It is.
	It's gone.
	Holy crap.
	I'm having trouble.
	I'm looking outside.
	It's still there.
	I'm having trouble breathing.
	Minimum pay has gone?
	Minimum.
	We still have minimum wage.
	It's gone?
	Yeah, apparently it's gone.
	But here's the best part.
	What do I say to them?
	How do I, you know, I can only say one thing.
	Okay, what is the one thing he can say?
	You want, is this another quiz?
	Yeah, just give me one answer.
	Uh, shoot yourself?
	There's one answer.
	No, I'll just play it for you.
	I'll just play it for you.
	So all this complaining.
	You know, I can only say one thing.
	I am a Canadian.
	So what are you worried about?
	There's a guest up in Canada.
	They're up in Scandinavia.
	The environment's still okay.
	Nothing's changed there.
	What a douche.
	That's terrible.
	I lost respect.
	Very disappointing.
	Very, very disappointing.
	Okay.
	Very disappointing to say the least.
	Obama is on a...
	You know, I wish I had this clip.
	I don't have the clip, but I'll tell you what the clip was.
	They have this Waters guy who is...
	Yeah, he's on Hannity?
	No, he's on O'Reilly.
	And he floats around with the man on the street.
	He's got a stupid smile always on his face.
	He's some kind of folk hero for some reason.
	I think he's a...
	I like him because I think he's really good at going in anywhere and just with that stupid smile.
	Because he's got the smile, he just seems like a stupid guy.
	Yeah, just the fearless thing.
	Nobody freaks out when they see him.
	And he always chuckles.
	He seems like a good-hearted guy, so you'll talk to him.
	He comes up to somebody.
	I wish I could get this clip.
	I may have to dig it up.
	Somebody may dig it up for me.
	Where he goes up to someone and he's interviewing all the millennials that are screaming and yelling.
	And this...
	This woman says, well, I bless everyone.
	I think everyone is...
	I forgive everyone for their sins and all the rest of it.
	And she goes on about something like that.
	She's pretty cute, but she's got that vapid look.
	Berkeley type.
	And he says, well, do you forgive me?
	And she says, no.
	She says, no, I can't forgive you.
	You suffer from obvious white privilege.
	And then she goes into a lecture that she gives him about his white privilege.
	And I'm just...
	And he's just...
	That's the only time I've ever seen him, like, stunned.
	I will say the audio clip that you included in the newsletter with the professor talking, he gave a little background kind of...
	A history of how this millennial problem came to be, particularly in universities.
	Very good.
	I put it in the show notes.
	If you have not heard that, you need to listen to this.
	It's really good.
	I listened to it twice, and Tina listened to it twice.
	Holy crap.
	It's a frightening clip.
	Do you want to just summarize?
	I understand why you couldn't play the whole clip.
	You have to really play the whole clip for it to work.
	It's a long clip.
	I could have taken a piece out of there.
	This is a guy who's going around the country ranting about the microaggression problems and all the other things that are going on in the universities.
	I got a letter from a guy.
	If I printed it out.
	Oh, I got like eight letters from people around the country at universities.
	Well, this guy wanted to come in anonymously.
	He's an administrator at one of the schools.
	Do you have that letter?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Well, yeah.
	Do you have it?
	I might.
	No, I don't have it.
	I should have it.
	I should have printed it.
	Yes, I have it here.
	Hold on.
	Oh, there's my insurance card.
	I wonder where that went.
	Was it next to your keyboard?
	No, it was in the thing.
	Yeah, next to the keyboard.
	Was this the one with the attached memo from the school?
	Is that the one you're talking about?
	No, this is the guy that says, you know, I'll dig it up for the next show.
	Or maybe I'll look for it while we're talking.
	Yeah, I don't have it.
	Sorry.
	I have a number of them.
	We can talk about that later.
	Yeah, we can save that for...
	Anyways, do you want to just finish your...
	You guys are talking about stuff that I can't even bring up.
	Right.
	These guys...
	A friend of mine who works...
	The ASU professor, he's talked about this to me a little bit.
	Has he also changed his syllabus?
	You have to walk on pins and needles in these classes.
	This guy was talking about professors changing their syllabi...
	So they don't offend everybody.
	And I'm very disappointed.
	If you're a professor, and you're like, oh, I'll just shut up and be over here, and I won't anger the millennials, then you're a dick.
	You don't deserve to be a professor.
	It's almost like, is there a Hippocratic Oath for teachers?
	Hippocratic Oath.
	I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
	No, it's something else.
	Never mind.
	All right.
	Yeah, we can find that a little bit later on.
	To the president.
	We'll make that a point of discussion.
	We will.
	The president, President Obama, is on his big farewell tour, and it's quite different than the last time he swung around.
	He is currently in Berlin.
	Remember the last time he came in, he was at the Brandenburg Gate, and it was, you know, rock star Obama.
	Now he comes in under the cover of night.
	Yeah, and they're booing him, and they're having street demonstrations in Greece.
	Yeah, he's...
	Well, hold on.
	He's staying at the Alden Hotel in Berlin, and the guests are pissed off.
	Report boots on the ground.
	This one lady who rolled up in two MyBox, one for her and one for her luggage, she's, why do I have to go through metal detectors?
	And, you know, she's yelling this in the lobby.
	And, of course, no recording, sadly.
	Um...
	There's all kinds of areas in the hotel that are off limits to regular folk.
	But the interesting thing is the top three newspapers in Berlin...
	All reported the same thing.
	I'm talking about the Berliner Zeitung, the Berliner Morgenpost, and the Bild Zeitung as well.
	They all ran articles about Air Force One and the Beast as the presidential vehicle.
	You know, what does it look like on the inside?
	And so they're giving exclusive access amongst the three of them to look inside Air Force One, inside the Beast.
	That was their story.
	Coordinated much?
	Shallow reporting anyone?
	Yeah, coordinated.
	I think Jerry Seinfeld was inside the Beast in his Cars show that he does.
	I saw that one, yeah.
	He's in a limo.
	Yeah, just a heavy, big limo.
	The president was in Greece first, and yeah, that didn't go over well.
	Rioting, people yelling and screaming, the press were not asking friendly questions.
	But I think what the president said, and I think it's the only clip I have of him, I tried to make it as short as possible, was telling, and it was not the message, certainly not the people of Greece wanted to hear, or anybody in Europe for that matter.
	But I do think that there is a common theme that we've seen in a lot of advanced economies and...
	Yeah, economies that are shit like yours, Greece.
	That we've seen around the world.
	Oh crap, this is not so great, this economy.
	Yeah, other ones around the world.
	Although they manifest themselves in different ways.
	Yeah, like with austerity.
	Globalization, combined with technology, combined with social media and constant information, have disrupted people's lives, sometimes in very concrete ways.
	So is he now blaming social media or the globalization?
	I'm a little confused, but it sounds like he's in...
	I don't know.
	What is he saying?
	I think he's lost.
	Well, he's trying to say, hey, Greece, I know it sucks, but globalization, you can't stop it.
	We have to have it.
	So, you know, we have globalization.
	It's difficult for folks.
	Folks, it's hard for folks.
	Especially folks like you, losers.
	That's exactly what he's saying.
	Those lives, sometimes in very concrete ways.
	A manufacturing plant closes and suddenly an entire town no longer has what was the primary source of employment.
	One town, how about a whole country that has been pushed into poverty by banks?
	But also psychologically.
	People are less certain of their national identities or their place in the world.
	That's what globalization does.
	The idea.
	Yeah, it's the whole point.
	It starts looking different and disorienting.
	Yes.
	And there is no doubt that that has produced populist movements, both from the left and the right, in many countries in Europe.
	Europe.
	When you see a Donald Trump and a Bernie Sanders, very unconventional candidates, have considerable success, then Obviously, there's something there that's being tapped into.
	Yeah.
	A suspicion of globalization.
	Yeah.
	Suspicion.
	First he says there's globalization.
	Then he said, well, you know, you got a suspicion maybe that we're doing something behind the scenes.
	Wait!
	That must be conspiracy talk.
	A suspicion of globalization.
	A desire to rein in its excesses.
	Yes.
	a suspicion of elites and uh governing institutions that people feel may not be responsive to their immediate because they're not and he's like the suspicion of there being this group of elites this is i mean how can you be so stupid greece there's There's nothing to see here.
	And that sometimes gets wrapped up in issues of ethnic identity or religious identity.
	No, that's what you do.
	Cultural identity.
	And that can be a volatile mix.
	Yes, a volatile mix.
	So in other words, more of this coming, Greece.
	Woo!
	More coming.
	That was abducting, Lady Nage.
	What do you mean?
	That speech.
	Oh, yeah.
	But it was really crazy.
	I mean, I couldn't...
	You think it was the clip?
	I was giving you crap about the clip?
	Yeah.
	I was going to give you a clip of the day almost for that clip.
	No, that's okay.
	I'm sorry.
	So, you know, and then he also...
	You're a little sensitive, I see.
	No, I'm careful.
	I'm careful.
	Okay, sticking in the Eurolands, it's not like we haven't been predicting it since 2008.
	Which we have.
	But now, in a translated version, once again, we have Junker the Drunker.
	And you know what he wants.
	Beer!
	Besides alcohol, he wants an army!
	Over the past 10 years, we have participated in more than 30 military and civil missions carried out by the European Union.
	But we don't have a permanent structure, and without that, we're not able to work efficiently.
	We must have a European headquarters...
	Oh, clap, clap, clap.
	Where's the outrage of, hey, you promised us no European army?
	You know what's going on?
	To me, at least.
	This is panic.
	Panic about NATO. The Brexit.
	This whole scheme, this is a scheme.
	This whole thing was a scheme.
	It was a one-world government scheme.
	This is just one of the ideas that float and then eventually it all come together.
	And it's falling apart already.
	It's not even on the right timetable anymore, so they've got to rush this army just in case.
	Very good.
	Army, war, very good.
	And so we should work towards a common military force, and this should be in complement with NATO. Oh yeah, I'm sure it'll complement NATO. Yeah, sure, for a year.
	You know, we don't need NATO anymore.
	What were we thinking?
	I have a...
	You got any more on this?
	No, I'm good.
	I got to do my every show.
	What's not being covered by the American media?
	I don't know.
	When I'm watching this, this is on RT. I'm watching this report, and I've been looking at the mainstream media, and I have seen nothing, nothing about this.
	This is the fate of Assange, clip one.
	Okay.
	Oops.
	He's slippery, that Assange.
	Here we go.
	The fate of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange remaining unresolved ahead of a second day of questioning.
	The legal process seems to be complicated.
	He was quizzed by Sweden's chief prosecutor for almost eight hours on Monday.
	However, Assange did finally get the chance to give evidence on rape allegations from 2010.
	However, concerns remain that even if indeed the case is dropped, his freedom is not guaranteed.
	RT's Polly Boyker reports.
	Julian Assange's interview with Swedish prosecutors could take several days.
	It's a complicated process whereby the questions started off in Swedish, they're then translated into Spanish, and they're asked in English by Ecuadorian prosecutors inside the embassy.
	Development could lead to a quick resolution of this entire legal saga.
	Well, they're going to be disappointed.
	It could take some time for Swedish authorities to receive the transcripts of Julian Assange's answers and then for them to consider what to do next with his case.
	We got more details on all the potential outcomes as a result of the questioning taking place here from one of Julian Assange's lawyers.
	The Swedish prosecutor decides not to issue a charge in relation to the one allegation.
	Mr Assange should of course be free to walk out the embassy immediately.
	The problem is that if he exits the door, he still has no guarantee that the United Kingdom will not extradite him to the United States.
	There is an ongoing national security prosecution against Mr Assange.
	In the absence of any assurances that he won't be extradited to the U.S., he faces that risk.
	And the U.K. has in fact said that they could arrest him for violations of his bail, even though when he entered the embassy, it was daylight hours and he was not in any way violating the bail conditions.
	Well, a couple of things.
	Did you know that this was going on, that Assange could be out?
	Yes, I did know.
	Oh, okay.
	But, you know, I could not find any clips, so I'm surprised you found that.
	I'm surprised that I did, too, now that you mention it.
	There's a couple of crazy things in there, like since he walked in during the daylight.
	You know, this is English law.
	God knows what they're talking about.
	I didn't know that there were an extradition order issued by the United States to extradite Assange from Great Britain.
	Yes, I did know that.
	Well, if that was the case, why didn't they do it just before he jumped into the embassy?
	Maybe were these extradition papers written up after he jumped into the embassy?
	I don't know.
	Let's play clip two.
	We may get a little more details.
	And there's one rather ironic twist to what's taking place at the moment, because while Julian Assange is being questioned finally inside the embassy where he's been stuck for over four years, there's a conference taking place on whistleblowing in Brussels at the moment, where MEPs from all sides of the there's a conference taking place on whistleblowing in Brussels at the moment, where MEPs from all sides of the political spectrum
	We spoke about this to one of the men convicted for his part in the Luxembourg leak scandal.
	It is absolutely necessary to have an international mechanism to protect whistleblowers, as more of them are appearing.
	It will save them from scandals being created around them, thanks to the media.
	It is absolutely necessary to have organizations on international and European levels to gather information from whistleblowers and decide whether it harms public interests.
	Whistleblowers are under enormous media pressure.
	You know, I have a feeling he's no longer even in the embassy.
	No, they keep showing up at the window.
	Oh, okay.
	Now, that whistleblower thing is kind of interesting.
	This is the EU where they want to put together a whistleblower's kind of protection agency, even though if you listen carefully, they talk about, well, they're going to determine whether this is in the public interest or not.
	Okay.
	Which means, to me, this is more going after whistleblowers.
	Yeah.
	But...
	Well, you know what they can do?
	They can have Facebook determine if it was a valid whistleblow, and then, you know, Facebook can have them arrested or not.
	Seeing as that is the new Politburo...
	Facebook police.
	Yeah, the Facebook content police are coming.
	I want to say something about that.
	It has always been my view that our brains were not prepared at all to handle the influx of information that the internet brought.
	And I think that we're seeing the results of this.
	Your brain is frying, particularly if you're young, impressionable, you don't really have a clue about the world yet.
	And I think, quite honestly, none of these kids really have a clue.
	Very few of them.
	You get that from your parents and we know the result.
	But what is happening?
	If you look at Facebook and Twitter, Facebook is...
	Well, actually, Twitter is going out of business.
	They can't make any money.
	They're in dire straits.
	And I would say, arguably, the reason why people are leaving is because they don't feel safe on Twitter.
	Because it's actually the...
	They're not the same.
	Twitter and Facebook are inverse of each other.
	Twitter is open...
	And you can, if you want, make your profile private and you could lock it all down so you only see things from people you follow.
	It would take a little bit of work.
	Facebook is the opposite.
	Facebook is private, and you can send stuff out or allow stuff to come in based upon the permissions.
	So the kids, we know this, they're running away from Twitter.
	Now they're on Facebook and Snapchat and Instagram.
	I think Instagram is very popular, mainly because they don't have to write or read anything, although the comments can get pretty nasty, but it's also very easy to lock people out.
	But what is happening is Now when we have this, you know, stop the fake news that you've been hearing about Facebook, oh yes, we can do that, no problem, we'll take care of all that, we'll stop the fake news, it's going to become a very, very thin band of people who are going to be interested in their own echo chamber with pretty much only stuff they want to see, and it's going to become uninteresting for advertisers.
	I predict the demise of all of these social networks, because the reason why these kids want this, don't offend me, is because their brains are frying.
	You can see it.
	We both have kids.
	When your kid's brain is frying, that's what they look like.
	But usually, I didn't eat my candy bar, or you took my Halloween candy.
	It's my favorite.
	So, I think all of this is going to come crumbling down.
	Facebook's already cooking the books.
	They keep saying it's different or whatever.
	Advertisers are going to say, well, where is everybody?
	And it's just going to fall down.
	It is a natural progression, and they're all part of their own demise.
	And I personally applaud it.
	I think that's really going to happen.
	Well, you've been a doomsday naysayer about these networks for some time.
	You're very consistent about it.
	Yeah.
	And every angle you get, you jump in there, and then you have this other analysis.
	I'm not saying your analysis is wrong, but I'm not saying that it's necessarily right.
	But you did the thing on the selfies and how they're ruining society, and I thought that was pretty insightful.
	And so I'm going to, first of all, this is just a warning.
	This is a trigger warning for people out there that just heard what you said, that Adam has got a hard-on For a bunch of things.
	Namely, advertising on the internet.
	That's what it boils down to.
	That would be one, because none of these things are sustainable without it.
	And pretty much none of these social networks are sustainable at all.
	And thank you, your point is exactly right.
	These social networks can take down your advertisers.
	They won't take them down and say, oh, we're not going to...
	What was it?
	Pepsi said...
	Back up.
	Because you just threw in a piece of information that nobody knows the background story to.
	What do you mean by take down your advertisers?
	You mean because the fake news sites, which have advertising, supposed fake news sites, which if you look on the list is bullshit, Breitbart is a fake news site now?
	That's on the list.
	Yeah, it's on the list.
	Yeah, it's fake news.
	So they're going to remove all of that.
	Guess what?
	This podcast will be removed.
	Guaranteed.
	We're going to be removed.
	We're going to be on a list.
	It's going to happen.
	Well, I think that's why people keep giving us four years to live.
	Have you noticed?
	Yeah, it's kind of sad.
	Why four?
	Well, I don't know.
	It's cropped up more than a few times.
	Well, I'm going to enjoy you guys for the next four years.
	It's like we're on an execution row or something, you know, locked up.
	We've got four years, you guys are done.
	Maybe that's true.
	Who knows if we can even make four years?
	I think we can probably do it.
	But for sure we won't have the issue of organized groups going after advertisers and that's why we have our value for value model.
	I'm going to show myself by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning.
	Indeed, we do have some people to thank.
	Starting with, whoops, this is interesting, what happened?
	I don't know.
	What happened?
	Nothing.
	Alex Button.
	Alex Button in San Francisco.
	One, two, three, four, five.
	He says he felt like a douche.
	It's been so long since his last donation.
	You also just sort of go for some karma for you at the end there.
	You don't really need a de-douching yet.
	Todd Russell, $100 from Parts Unknown.
	He has a long little note there, too.
	He had a lot of this.
	Trevor Mudge.
	He's the one with the Value for Value Challenge, which we'll talk about in one of the newsletters.
	Trevor Mudge.
	Sir Trevor Mudge.
	Sir Trevor Mudge in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
	We have a lot of people in Michigan.
	I want to say I hope they keep doing these meetups.
	I think it's fantastic.
	Robert Vogel in Franklin, North Carolina.
	$100.
	Keith and Debbie Holmes in Libby, Montana.
	And there's a call out, I believe.
	There's a note here.
	She did send a check in.
	And it was Libby.
	Even though it says Keith and Debbie.
	Not Libby.
	Debbie.
	In Libby.
	Dear beloved guardians of reality, this makes me think that Debbie wrote the note.
	I just don't see Keith doing it, but you never know.
	You never know.
	Just finished listening to your post-election show and must applaud you on bringing some big entertainment value to the election insanity in true no-agenda style.
	Woo!
	Also, a huge thank you for sorting through countless hours of painful material that I personally could not stomach, i.e.
	the view.
	I also appreciate that you not only call bullshit on deconstruct various national and international issues, But that you also call each other out.
	Call each other out respectfully.
	And I enjoy how you bait each other.
	Maybe this was Keith.
	Bait each other for opinions on certain topics.
	All these reasons justify your title of the best podcast in the universe.
	They're on to our format, John.
	Again, it's probably Debbie.
	I'm proud to say my husband hit me in the mouth this year.
	So I enclose a check for $100.
	It's our first donation, so a dedouching is in order.
	You've been de-douched.
	And I'd also like to call out Scott Price to donate as well.
	He's a recent recipient of formula propagation.
	So he needs to be called out as a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	Anyway, I thought it was a cute letter.
	And it was handwritten.
	Handwritten, I say.
	Yep.
	Thea Samaras.
	These are our 88.88s, as you can tell by the code that was relayed by Adam.
	Actually, we've got a little...
	I've got the paddles right here.
	Yeah, you've got a paddle right there.
	I hooked to the machine.
	Can you give us 88.88 again on that thing?
	Okay.
	8888 is very simple.
	Pretty good, huh?
	Yeah, you're really fast.
	Thea Samaras, Parts Unknown.
	Giving you kudos for your John Oliver call-out.
	Oh, thank you.
	Jeff Holland in Winter Springs, Florida.
	Alan D. Peterson in Parts Unknown.
	USA Caleb Hilly in Central South Carolina.
	I think there is a town named Central.
	Robert Lauridsen, I think he's a sir, in Jules, New South Wales, Australia.
	Could be wrong, but I think I'm right.
	Dame Francine Hardaway in New York.
	Tyler Arp in Des Moines, Iowa.
	Andy Kluber.
	I don't know why these cities aren't coming through on some of these.
	I know they're there.
	Thomas Wisniewski in Suffern, New York.
	Alyssa Karenos in Allentown, Pennsylvania.
	She also sent a note in, and it was a cute little thank you card that she apparently found laying around somewhere.
	And a handwritten note that I'll just take a quick look at.
	Check under the keyboard.
	Ben, over a year and a half since I donated.
	I feel like a douchebag for freeloading on your wonderful service.
	Please accept my lucky eights.
	Give her a dedouching at the end.
	I really appreciate the work you put into the show last year.
	Specifically, your only thing that keeps me sane here in closed-minded Seattle.
	You've been dedouched.
	And she says...
	Future night, she says.
	Of course, she comes in from Allentown, Pennsylvania, but she's in Seattle, which I guess was interesting.
	Give her a jobs karma at the end, too.
	Okay, that's our little group of 88-88s.
	Jeffrey Schwab comes in at 88-80.
	He's W-0 Juliet Charlie Sierra.
	73s.
	Another ham, 73s.
	Dame Janice Kang in Milpitas, California, 8780.
	Daniel Roberts, 8008. Boobs, boobs, boobs, boobs, boobs, boobs, boobs. Boobs, boobs, boobs, boobs, boobs.
	Alan Hawes in Windsor, Berkshire, UK, 8008.
	Sir Gadget Virtuoso, 8008.
	And he has a birthday call for his lovely girlfriend.
	Chris Schooler in Wellington, New South Wales.
	Sir Chris.
	Sir Chris.
	And he's giving us the 7.8, the momentum magnitude of the earthquake on the South Island.
	78, 7.8 was the scale, and 88 is just for luck.
	Thank you.
	He also mentions that I love all this.
	I actually sent him a note back on this.
	I love all the Trump stuff as all the U.S. billionaires are now buying New Zealand land.
	So I guess there's a little boom going on there.
	Yeah, nice.
	Oh, let's get out of the country.
	Let's move to New Zealand.
	We can maybe have sex with sheep.
	There it is.
	That's my line.
	Nicholas Farrington.
	No one delivers a sheep's line like I do.
	Leave that to me.
	Okay, well, you blew it.
	Nicholas Farrington, $75.
	Thomas Jurek, $55.
	Double nickels on the dime.
	Douglas Engstrom, $52.90.
	Anton Panamarenko, I think, in Hollywood, Florida, $52.37.
	I think there's a dog track there.
	My advice has always been, bet on the last dog to take a dump.
	Sir Luke, Baron of London, London, England, $52.
	Knight of huge data, $51.50.
	Gary Jungling, I think it's Jungling, in Gilroy, California, 5149.
	He's got a bunch of notes here for you to look at while we continue to read.
	Following people are all $50 donors.
	Name and location.
	Harry Campbell, we don't have a location.
	Christy Chaplin in Ankeny, Iowa.
	Robert Gusick in High Point, North Carolina.
	Simon Horn in Manly, Queensland, Australia.
	Manly Place.
	Sir Chris Slowinski in Sherwood Park, Alberta.
	Kent O'Rourke, Hearts Unknown.
	Robert Cohen.
	Don't get it.
	Don Camp in Antlers, Oklahoma.
	It should be a night by now.
	Amitav Hajra in Daleville, Virginia.
	David Porto in Lincoln, Nebraska.
	Brian Noni.
	Smyrna, Georgia.
	David Porto needs a de-douche.
	You've been de-douche.
	Been listening since episode 790.
	Welcome aboard, my friend.
	Samuel Cutts.
	John Holler in Missoula, Montana.
	David Kruger in Parts Unknown.
	Dame Melody Mann in Ringo, Louisiana.
	Jerry Wingenroth.
	Wingenroth.
	Sir Jerry.
	In Sagas, California.
	That concludes our little group of well-wishers and producers for show 7878.
	Okay, what is the special we have for the triple credit?
	Anyone who donates $880 gets three executive producer credits instead of one.
	And they get one for the show they donated in.
	They get one for the 880 show.
	And then they get a third one of their choosing even though we'll probably put an expiration date on that because nobody seems to be choosing anything.
	Okay.
	Well, thank you, all of you, very much for supporting us.
	No advertisers to chase away.
	The only thing you can do is support us or not.
	And I love how people are supporting us with our value-for-value model, which is not just financial.
	It also includes clips, artwork, ideas, feedback, expertise.
	You are the producers, and that's why we treat you as such.
	Thank you again.
	Another show coming up on Sunday.
	Hope you will join us for that.
	Dvorak.org.
	And as promised...
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma. You've got karma. You've got karma. You've got karma. You've got karma. You've got karma. You've got karma. You've got karma. You've got karma. You've got karma.
	All right.
	First, we start off with the May Good, which should have happened on 876.
	This was for Sir Jimmy from Freehollowbooks.com.
	He, let's see, he was referred to as James Gouda instead of Sir James Goots.
	Sorry about that.
	And shit does happen, though.
	Cheesy mistake.
	Onward with the rest of the birthdays.
	Joe Kruever says happy birthday to a smoking hot wife, Carla, celebrated on the 14th.
	Olaf Wolf said happy birthday to a son, Quentin, turned 5 on the 15th.
	Matthew Stevens, Sir Gadget Virtuoso, happy birthday to Missy Implement of Fort Worth, Texas, celebrating today.
	Amanda Toodle.
	Happy birthday to our smoking hot husband.
	Celebrating tomorrow will be 30.
	Anton Panamarenko, 37 tomorrow, as Sir Luke of London is celebrating.
	And Black Knight, Sage Felker, also his birthday today.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
	And no title changes today, but we have two nights.
	Actually, we have one dame and one night.
	I'm very excited about that.
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	And thank you again, everybody, also those under $50, for supporting us here at the best podcast in the universe.
	We talked about Mike Rogers earlier, and we talked about Julian Assange and WikiLeaks.
	There is, of course, the other Mike Rogers, which is very confusing, Admiral Mike Rogers, who currently runs NSA. Right.
	And I don't know how he got up the guts to do this.
	I guess he's not afraid of anything.
	Here's what he has to say about WikiLeaks.
	WikiLeaks.
	You told NPR in August these emails were clearly leaked for a reason, and they were leaked, I believe, to achieve an effect.
	What can you tell us?
	Obviously, there's ongoing investigations, but what can you tell us about WikiLeaks from what you know?
	There shouldn't be any doubt in anybody's mind.
	This was not something that was done casually.
	This was not something that was done by chance.
	It's strange because it looked just like a spear-fishing expedition to me.
	It was pretty much by chance, I thought, but maybe I'm wrong.
	This was not a target that was selected purely arbitrarily.
	This was a conscious effort by a nation-state to attempt to achieve a specific effect.
	We're trying to make life harder for hackers.
	Quite frankly, we're trying to harden systems.
	We're trying to increase the level of knowledge.
	We're trying to increase capabilities both in the private sector and the government.
	We're trying to deal directly with a host of nation states around the world and engaging with them in terms of what's acceptable from our perspective, what is not.
	He doesn't quite say Russia, but he does really say nation state, no doubt about it.
	I hope he can back that up.
	I'd like to know.
	I'd like to know what nation state.
	If he's so sure it's a nation state, what nation state?
	What doesn't he say?
	Yeah, you can't.
	It's under investigation.
	You can't.
	That's always under investigation.
	Provide innuendo.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, no.
	Chichikon.
	One, two, three. Chichikon. Chichikon. Guine. Chichikon. Chichikon. Chichikon. Chichikon.
	That's right, everybody.
	It's time for Guyann Chichikhan.
	She is, of course, the smoking hot reporter for Russia Today.
	Once again, causing trouble on her beat in the State Department.
	Now, this was a fan...
	I know.
	I love doing that.
	I'm glad you got a kick out of it.
	Guyann got into a fight with Kirby, spokeshole for the State Department.
	Well, by the way, when you finish this one, I have a Guyane too, so we just go for it.
	Oh, Guyane to Guyane.
	It's back-to-back Guyane.
	We're sandwiched.
	Hell yeah.
	So Kirby says, oh, well, you know, the Russians bombed five hospitals in Syria.
	Oh, a-holes.
	And Guyane says, excuse me, could you give me the list of which hospitals so I can, you know, go follow up on that?
	And so they didn't actually have their own intel, as you'll hear.
	What they had was, you know, I guess the white helmets?
	Are those the guys?
	The white helmets?
	Yeah.
	That's a corrupt operation.
	Well, that's who he's citing as proof.
	Of course it's a corrupt operation.
	Those guys are a corrupt operation.
	Everybody knows this.
	Sponsored by Endowment for Democracy, USAID, and more.
	And so she says to Kirby, hey, could you please give me the list of these allegations?
	I don't know how many times now I've been to this podium talking about the fact that no humanitarian aid is getting into Aleppo, and that hasn't changed.
	It hasn't changed one bit.
	Don't you think it is important to give a specific list of hospitals that you're accusing Russia of hitting?
	Those are grave accusations.
	I'm not making those accusations.
	I'm telling you we've seen reports from credible aid organizations that five hospitals and a clinic, at least one clinic.
	In one cities, at least.
	You can go look at the information that many of the Syrian relief agencies are putting out there publicly.
	We're getting our information from them, too.
	But you're citing those reports without giving any specifics.
	Because we believe these agencies are credible and because we have other sources of information that back up what we're seeing from some of these reports.
	Alright.
	Shut up, slave!
	Just go look it up on the web!
	That's where you can find it.
	And, you know, she, of course, was like not letting up because it is, after all, Guyanne.
	And Kirby got nasty.
	And you know what?
	Why don't you ask...
	Here's a good question.
	Why don't you ask your defense ministry what they're doing and see if you can get...
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	If you give a specific list of hospitals...
	No, no, no.
	My colleagues who are listening hopefully would be able to go and ask Russian officials about a specific list of hospitals that...
	You work for Russia Today, right?
	Yes.
	Isn't that your agency?
	And so why shouldn't you ask your government the same kinds of questions that you're standing here asking me?
	Ask them about their military activities.
	Get them to tell you or deny what they're doing.
	When I ask for specifics, it seems your response is, why are you here?
	Well, you are leveling that accusation.
	And if you give specifics, my colleagues would be able to ask Russian officials.
	Once again, you're just wrong.
	I'm not leveling those accusations.
	Relief agencies that we find credible are leveling those accusations.
	So why don't you question them about their information and where they're getting it?
	Why don't you question your own defense ministry?
	Which organizations then?
	We'll get you a list of them after the briefing.
	I don't have it right here in front of me, but I'm happy to provide to you some of the relief agencies that are telling us what they're seeing on the ground.
	So this carries on for a little bit longer.
	And, of course, there's only one guy who can come to the damsel in distress's rescue.
	Yes, ladies and gentlemen, it is the friendly from AP. We know him as AP Diplo Writer.
	Yes, Matt Lee!
	Hold on.
	Please be careful about saying your defense minister and things like that.
	I mean, she's a journalist, just like the rest of us are, so it's, you know...
	She's asking pointed questions, but they're not, you know...
	From a state-owned outlet, Matt.
	From a state-owned outlet.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Perhaps you should also be an asshole to people from the BBC, which is a state-owned outlet.
	Or did I misunderstand that?
	How about the Dutch press, who in many cases from public media are state-owned outlets?
	What a douchebag!
	From a state-owned outlet, Matt.
	From a state-owned outlet that's not independent.
	The questions that she's asking are not out of line.
	I didn't say the questions were out of line.
	I didn't say the questions were out of line.
	Oh no, I understand.
	I'm sorry, but I'm not going to put Russia Today on the same level with the rest of you who are representing independent media outlets.
	Douchebag!
	Look, there...
	Well, we'll talk about...
	We can talk about this later offline.
	But just, you know, the question is not an inappropriate question to ask.
	Didn't say that it was.
	But I also think it should be asked of their own defense ministry.
	Okay.
	Which they don't do.
	Which Russia today doesn't do.
	Oh, dick!
	Unbelievable.
	Lay off a guy in.
	That's not cool, dude.
	Well, that takes me actually to a different clip.
	My favorite part?
	My favorite part?
	You're just wrong.
	You could use that as an ISO. No, it's ISO as is.
	You're just wrong.
	Of course it's ISO. You're just wrong.
	You're just wrong.
	You're just wrong.
	So I got this clip.
	This is the Russian side of the Aleppo story.
	Mm-hmm.
	Which, when you listen to this thing, it's a little long, it's not too long, but it's the Russian side of the Aleppo story, and the Russians make the claim that all this action that's going on, the hospitals and everything in between, are just because of the constant shelling by ISIS of the city.
	And they're shelling east-west, they're just shelling the hell out of the place.
	And at the end of this clip, It will bring up a question that has to be asked.
	Stop tomorrow morning, tonight, if Russia and the Assad regime were to behave according to any norm.
	So they did.
	From the 18th of October, Russian jets disappeared from the skies over eastern Aleppo.
	There hasn't been a single airstrike in four weeks.
	As for the rebels...
	We're in the Al-Assad summer.
	And the rebels are pushing into Aleppo again.
	They attacked.
	My favorite kind of report.
	They tried to break into the city.
	Rebel shells pummeled Aleppo every day without a pause for breath.
	Just over the last month, the list of civilians killed and injured runs into the hundreds.
	Schools, universities, houses...
	At times, the entire city shook from the ferocity of the shelling.
	We've spent six weeks in Aleppo.
	In all that time, not a single civilian has been allowed to leave the rebel part of the city.
	Every effort to defuse the situation, including unilateral ceasefires, failed.
	On a number of occasions, we filmed al-Nusra's black flag flying on the front line.
	According to all evidence, they are the power in eastern Aleppo, and the message they were sending was clear.
	No one leaves.
	I left my house as soon as the shelling started, but on my way I inhaled something.
	I felt a sharp pain in my chest and went to hospital.
	They took blood for analysis.
	I felt I was suffocating, as if from some sort of chemical or poison gas.
	It all escalated towards the end of October, when jihadists, angry at being repelled, began shelling the city with artillery rounds infused with chlorine gas.
	There you go.
	After four weeks without a single Russian airstrike, the situation has only deteriorated.
	In the face of repeated rebel attacks and merciless shelling, thousands have fled their homes, forced deeper into, not out of the city.
	Kerry's promised solution had been a complete failure.
	Murad Yazdiev, RT. Man, that guy is no good.
	Now, well...
	That's not how you do a report like that.
	He was on the scene with the bombs going off.
	Yeah, but where's the excitement?
	Where's the...
	I mean, he had all the sound effects, you know, it's like...
	Is that different?
	John, I'm out here in Aleppo where it clearly...
	Oh no, with this cruise missile's going off.
	And...
	What's going on?
	Tell us what you see.
	I'm trying to...
	I'm learning some things here.
	Oh no!
	What have you learned?
	I've learned that the Russians are good.
	And the Americans, no good.
	Be safe.
	Be safe.
	Thanks, bro.
	Now, the question on mine, this report brings to mine.
	Oh, shit.
	I forgot the baby screaming sound effect.
	Okay, well, next time, next time, next time.
	Either the United States or Russia is lying.
	Yeah, someone's lying.
	Because the United States is claiming there's Russian bombers.
	They don't have any evidence of this, by the way.
	I did see on Twitter somebody say, oh, look, here's an aerial view of a school that's been blown out.
	This proves the Russians have been bombing the place.
	That's good for me.
	But if you listen to this report, they're either lying about the whole report, Even though they didn't show any jets flying over.
	Or the United States is lying.
	One of the two sides is lying.
	I think they're probably both.
	We're both lying.
	Well, I think they're both lying too, but I don't think to the extreme that we're lying.
	Hey, we invented the lie.
	Well, we didn't invent the lie, but...
	The political lie.
	We're very good at this.
	We're good for it.
	We're good for it.
	Very good at this.
	Since we've done some foreign reporting, I do have the one thing.
	I want to do a quick thing on Brexit.
	All right.
	In the UK, because of this leaked memo, big deal.
	Let's start off with this.
	This is the breakfast show from Scotland that I got a clip from.
	Okay.
	Leaked UK government memo says splits means there's still no overall plan for Brexit.
	The document written by a consultant for the Cabinet Office suggests it'll take another six months for ministers to agree what they want to achieve.
	Well, the Shadow Chancellor joins us now.
	John McDonald, good morning to you.
	Morning, morning.
	What evidence do you have to say that Philip Hammond is isolated and...
	That guy just got...
	Is this an LBC, probably?
	It's early in the morning.
	No, no, this is the Scottish Breakfast Show.
	Whatever it is, do you have to say that Philip Hammond is isolated and ignored.
	We've had a consistent series of leaks coming out of government and also statements from Number 10.
	On one occasion, when Philip Hammond made a statement about student visa fees, within 24 hours he was slapped down by Number 10, the Prime Minister.
	And this seems to be going on on a daily basis.
	They seem to be falling out amongst themselves.
	I think what is really concerning of the mess that this government has got us into, they have a European referendum.
	Do not prepare for alternative results as you would do even before a general election.
	Don't allow that to happen.
	Then the result comes out.
	Not that we wanted, but one that was democratic wishes of the people.
	Unfortunately, we didn't win the argument on remain.
	Then we have a period of time in which literally there looks as though there's absolute disarray in government.
	And the report that's been leaked today is an independent consultant.
	So...
	It's fairly objective evidence that we've got problems.
	And what we've been saying to the government, you've got to be more open and transparent.
	You've got to set out what your objectives are, and you've got to set out the route by which we'll achieve those objectives.
	And we've offered to work on a bipartisan basis on some of this.
	To achieve what?
	What was Labour's plan for all of this?
	Because on the day that the result was announced, Mr Corbyn seemed to be suggesting that Article 50 needed to be triggered straight away.
	Well, he was misquoted then.
	He said that Article 50 would have to be triggered at some stage.
	And what's happening now?
	Well, yes, but what's happening now is, well, sorry, let's get the semantics of this right.
	He's saying formally Article 50 had to be triggered.
	He didn't say a timescale on that.
	When he said now, he meant as a result of that referendum decision.
	Get ready for a do-over!
	Now, here's what's kind of fascinating to me.
	Labor really is an analog of the Democrat Party in the United States.
	They're all in for one world government.
	We don't want Brexit.
	We don't want any of these things that are screwing up.
	The single market, the one world government, all this sort of thing, which is both Democrats and labor in England.
	This is completely anti-labor.
	Yeah.
	So let's move the jobs offshore and screw our own people and the unions in particular.
	We don't care.
	And I'm just baffled by this turnaround.
	Meanwhile, of course, this little issue about the leaked memo was taken up, of course, at the question time, which is when they argue with each other.
	And do you have question time?
	Yes.
	Question time is scripted, though, is it not?
	Well, according to some...
	Yes, it's scripted, but...
	I don't know if anyone goes off script ever, but...
	It's like a town hall.
	It seems scripted, but there's a Corbyn and what's her name?
	I don't think they're the best of friends.
	I asked the Prime Minister, actually, about the Foreign Secretary's remarks about leaving the Customs Union.
	He's only a few places down from there.
	Mr.
	Speaker, would he be in order for the Foreign Secretary to come forward and tell us what he actually said?
	I'm sure we would all be better informed if he did.
	Earlier this week, Mr Speaker, a leaked memo said the government is...
	The government is considerably...
	I love how the British, when you say leak memo, they're like, oh no, no, no, no.
	Can you imagine us with WikiLeaks doing that?
	Nah, we can't discuss that shit.
	Nah, we kind of did it.
	...said the government is considerably short of having a plan for Brexit.
	No common strategy has emerged, in part because of the divisions within the cabinet.
	If this memo is, as the Prime Minister's Press Department says, written by ill-informed consultants, could she put the Government's plan and common strategy for Brexit before Parliament?
	I have to say to the right, hon. gentlemen, yes, we do have a plan.
	Our plan is to deliver the best possible deal in trading with and operating within.
	Our plan is to deliver control of movement from people from the European Union into the United Kingdom.
	Our plan is to go out there across the world and negotiate free trade agreements around the rest of the world.
	And this government is absolutely united in its determination to deliver on the will of the British people and to deliver Brexit.
	His shadow cabinet can't even decide whether it supports Brexit or not.
	Jeremy Corbyn!
	What did he say?
	Incoming?
	No, Geoffrey Corbyn.
	Wow, I love the Parliament.
	It's so much more fun than what we do.
	You know.
	Oh, I don't think we're going to have any going to...
	I can't do that.
	I can't do that.
	A Jeremy Corbyn, I meant to say, not Jeffrey.
	So, again, I'll keep tabs on this, but it just seems like a lot of stalling, if you ask me.
	That's a lot of stalling.
	I would think, do we have a direct trade agreement with the UKs?
	Well, I think that we're trying to do some special deal.
	There's a lot of trade agreements.
	Obviously, we have a lot of UK products over here.
	Do you really need trade agreements for every damn thing you do if you ship it over here and there?
	Just in, Merkel and Obama penned an op-ed together.
	Oh, sure they did.
	I'm going to translate one paragraph on the fly for you.
	Ready?
	It's in German.
	Auf Deutsch.
	Today, we are at a crossroads.
	The future has already come, and there will not be a return to a world before globalization.
	Both governments are obliged to deepen the cooperation between companies and citizens, and I'm just going to translate this in, quote, the whole world community.
	Well, there you go.
	Holy crap!
	New World Order!
	New World Order!
	There you go.
	Shut up, slaves!
	Shut up, slaves!
	My goodness.
	Oh, they're not hiding it under any chairs or benches, are they?
	No.
	Damn.
	Oh, man.
	They're hiding it under German.
	That's a Dutchism, by the way.
	Hiding it under tables or benches.
	That sounds a good translation.
	Chairs or benches.
	Okay.
	I have two little bits here.
	I cannot leave us without a little bit of follow-up on the millennials and the protests that are taking place.
	First of all, you probably already heard this.
	Last night, public records show about two-thirds of those arrested during the Trump protests either didn't vote or weren't registered to vote in Oregon.
	And it got a lot of people talking, many asking if they have a right to complain about an election if they didn't make their voices heard.
	There you go.
	Half of them not registered, didn't vote.
	Oops.
	They didn't vote.
	They didn't think they had to.
	Why do I need to vote?
	Hillary's won.
	Look at the results they show me in the polls.
	Hillary won.
	Well, we're going to get to that in a minute.
	But now there's this...
	Not all lawmakers are happy with this.
	I think this is from Iowa.
	There's a new bill.
	It's called the suck it up buttercup bill.
	All right.
	Well, to all the people across the nation protesting the Trump presidency, canceling exams, bringing in therapy dogs and hosting.
	Yes, there's something called a cry in.
	One Iowa lawmaker has a message for you.
	Suck it up buttercup.
	So tell us about the Suck It Up Buttercup bill.
	Where did the idea come from and what does it do?
	Well, good morning.
	Thanks for having me.
	You know, the bill was inspired by what I saw across the nation, where I saw schools with rising, skyrocketing tuition costs were also finding new monies and expenditures for things such as cry rooms, I was hearing reports of rooms where you could play with Play-Doh and you could color on books and talk about your feelings.
	And I was even hearing reports of some schools that were bringing in ponies to be able to get students through the election.
	Well, wait a minute.
	They should have voted for Vermin Supreme then in that case.
	There was a perfect candidate.
	Everyone a free pony.
	That was his whole platform.
	Oh, you dumb kids.
	...and ponies to be able to get students through the election.
	Well, for me, that's a waste of taxpayer dollar, and that also doesn't prepare kids for life, because in life, there's winners and losers.
	And in life, when your car breaks down, your kids get sick, or you have to take a second job up to pay your mortgage, you don't get to go to a cry zone.
	You don't get to pet a pony.
	You have to deal with it, which is why I came up with the bill, and the idea inspired Suck It Up Buttercup.
	Well, I can't help but I don't mean to laugh.
	I mean, you laugh because you want to cry as they are doing in these cry rooms.
	There's another aspect of this bill, though, that you talked about protesting.
	We've seen a lot of protesting that descends into rioting.
	What's the other aspect of it?
	True.
	And that was truly the inspiration was protecting my constituents.
	What really inspired me to push this forward?
	There was an actual blockade of my constituents on Interstate 80 last week.
	And that's dangerous.
	That's incredibly dangerous.
	What if someone had been trying to go to the hospital?
	What if someone was in an emergency and you had these kids, you had people acting like spoiled brats, let's just call it what it is, blocking Interstate 80.
	And I have no problem with dissent.
	I have no problem with protesting.
	I encourage protesting.
	I encourage dissent.
	But you don't have a constitutional right to impede on the constitutional rights of others.
	And when you're blocking the interstate, when you're falsely imprisoning my constituents and putting their lives in danger, I have a big problem with that.
	So I'm proposing to increase the penalties and giving law enforcement more tools to prevent that from happening in the future.
	Nice!
	They did that in Oakland.
	Or they tried.
	This last time around, they didn't get anywhere.
	But a couple of riots before the more recent ones, they used to run up on Highway 80, the same highway that goes across the country.
	Which is a real problem, of course.
	And yes!
	You know, I was thinking, we have lots of musicians out there, lots of jingle makers.
	I have a request.
	It's obviously, you know, it's a pretty straightforward one.
	Ready?
	Remember the song, John?
	Yeah.
	Going back in time to the 70s.
	Yes, we need a new version of this.
	Why don't you suck it up on that buttercup, baby?
	See, we could do a great song.
	I think you got you around to something.
	Yeah.
	We need someone who can actually sing.
	That would be good.
	Man, so...
	Microaggression.
	Exactly.
	This is what this show's about.
	Hey, I got one final one.
	And microaggressions against each other.
	Do you remember the, I think it was on HBO in the States, the Kids in the Hall?
	Oh yeah.
	They were good.
	It was a Canadian show, actually.
	They were way ahead of their time.
	I'm not sure when this particular episode aired, but I think the show went off the air in like mid-90s.
	94 or so.
	And they have this bit, which is about an art class, which is so prophetic.
	It is so...
	They were from the future at the time.
	Please listen to this.
	It is, again, 96 or 94.
	What are we talking about?
	How many years ago?
	You know, about 12 years ago.
	20.
	No, 20.
	22 years ago.
	All right.
	Everyone, today we're going to be tackling what is one of the most fundamental, yet one of the most demanding drawing exercises that any aspiring artist may undertake.
	We're going to be sketching the female nude today, but I'm going to ask you not to focus on portraiture so much at this point.
	Just focus on lines and shadow and form, okay?
	Sylvia, if you'll please.
	Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey!
	Yes, yes.
	Excuse me, Mr.
	Dwyer, but...
	I took this class to learn how to sketch.
	Not to ogle some poor female nude.
	Well, this isn't about ogling.
	No, no.
	We're just going to observe line and shadow and for...
	And we're going to use economic repression to once again exploit a woman's body.
	I don't think that's what we're doing here.
	No?
	Excuse me.
	Sister, are you being paid?
	Yes.
	I rest my case.
	Well, of course she's being paid.
	She's a professional artist model.
	I see no reason why we shouldn't use her.
	Use her?
	Use her?
	You know, I wish you could hear yourself, sir.
	Remember, language is a virus.
	Well, I certainly didn't mean to infect anyone.
	That's no excuse.
	Sexism in any context is never appropriate.
	But what about our charcoal technique?
	Don't change the subject here, sir.
	This class is a travesty.
	That poor woman child is just another victim of the patriarchy.
	She is?
	I am?
	Hate crime.
	Hate crime.
	Not only that, it is also a racist construct.
	This woman represents the same white image of beauty that has oppressed women for centuries.
	Hate crime.
	Hate crime.
	Where are the nude models of color?
	The people of girth?
	The handicapable?
	The elderly?
	The queer?
	I'm sorry, it's just naked, fat, black, crippled dykes are hard to find.
	What?
	I'm sorry I said that.
	I apologize.
	You white male!
	Stop trying to coo up my black anger!
	I'm just trying to understand your black anger.
	Show it to me again.
	Shut up!
	Thank you, I understand now.
	Sir, you leave me only one alternative.
	I must walk out and call for a boycott of your classes.
	Anybody who stays is obviously a racist.
	Hold up.
	Oh, shut up!
	Well, you know, these issues are certainly valid, and we could have a discussion.
	Bye.
	Were these guys from the future or what?
	That was good.
	Unbelievable.
	Really, really good.
	This is not a short-term phenomenon.
	I think that makes it pretty clear.
	Yeah.
	Well, I think we just need to touch briefly on the Electoral College, because that continues, continues.
	And I put in the show notes the Federalist Papers No.
	68, where Alexander Hamilton speaks specifically about the Electoral College, although it's not the Electoral College, but it's the Electoral College.
	Electoral College.
	I don't think it was.
	The college word came in later, I believe.
	It was just the electoral.
	And, you know, it's a great read.
	It's definitely something you want to take a look at.
	What is interesting is Hillary Clinton did her first post-election speech at the Children's Defense Fund.
	And the whole speech by itself, ugh, snooze.
	But the intro from, I think, the CEO or the Executive Director of the Children's Defense Fund.
	The founder.
	The founder, yes.
	Spoke volumes about the thinking.
	And in 2016, former senator and secretary of state Hillary Rodham Clinton becomes the first woman to win the nomination of a major party for president of the United States of America.
	And to win the popular vote in the general election.
	Woo!
	So we're going to say she is the people's president.
	Oh, the people's president.
	And as of the most recent count, 1,221,480 have said she's our president, and she is our president.
	Oh, she's our president.
	I'm confused.
	And I want to just thank her because my two granddaughters are here tonight.
	And because of all the past, she has paid for them.
	One of the days, soon, your daughter and my daughter and our granddaughters are going to sit in that Oval Office and we can thank Hillary Rodham Clinton for that.
	So I am delighted.
	To have her come and share this evening and let her know that we love her and that we appreciate all the hard work that she has done and to say it is not going to be for naught, but she is our president for the people.
	Thank you.
	Hillary, get out of my vagina!
	Wow.
	President for the people.
	So one of our producers sent a note in that was kind of interesting, citing that there were two counties that accounted for Hillary's popular vote sweep.
	Cook County in Illinois, where Hillary won by over a million and 100,000, 1.1, 1.2 million more votes than Trump and Los Angeles County, where Hillary won again by over a million votes, 1.1, 1.2 million. where Hillary won again by over a million votes, 1.1,
	With the comment that if they had taken these two counties out of the total, not just not California, but just two counties or either one of them, for that matter, Trump would have won the popular vote.
	But if you took both of them out, Trump would have won the popular vote by over a million votes.
	So these two counties really accounted for this bullcrap.
	And Trump himself said, well, if we didn't have the electoral college, I would have camped out in Texas and California.
	Yeah, which is the problem.
	Everyone would just be targeting the big cities, the big votes.
	But, anyway.
	Oh, man.
	Did you know that the Newsweek printed 125,000?
	This is super collectible.
	Do you know about this?
	Yeah, they're already on eBay for hundreds of dollars.
	Really?
	So somebody stole a bunch of them?
	I guess.
	Because they were never released, technically.
	And I guess South Park had to change the show.
	They already produced the show with Hillary winning.
	If I could play here, play this little clip.
	This is a...
	I don't have to play the whole thing, but this is an RT report on the Golden Girl.
	Okay.
	Ilya Petrenka and RT America host Ed Schultz now assessing how the establishment's Golden Girl fell at the finish.
	In the world of Hillary Clinton, it was decided long before November 8th who's going to get the White House after Barack Obama.
	And I tell you what, her world is huge.
	Did you see many or any pre-election polls that favored Donald Trump?
	Month after month, essentially, all the media said was Hillary's winning.
	And even the day before the vote, the editors of Newsweek were still inhabiting Planet Clinton with this Madam President cover, which they had to recall when reality struck.
	Some 125,000 copies, no less.
	The creators of South Park were also living in Clintonland.
	Their pre-recorded post-election episode was Also had her win it.
	They had to rush and change it to this.
	The world is in a bit of a shock.
	We're sure this is for real, right?
	What have you done?
	And then at the center of the clip...
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	Did you have extra time this morning?
	For what?
	Where did that come from all of a sudden?
	That was pretty interesting, that drop in.
	No, no, that was in the show.
	That's completely fabricated.
	That's a studio with an echo.
	I can hear that.
	No, that was...
	They were in an auditorium.
	Yeah.
	It didn't sound fabricated.
	That's all I'm saying.
	No, it's in the show.
	They showed the cartoon.
	We're sure this is for real, right?
	What have you done?
	And then at the center of the quick reverse...
	Actually, that's a nice ISO. That is an ISO, man.
	I can't believe you missed that.
	What have you done?
	It's a beauty.
	What have you done?
	This is for real, right?
	That wasn't too bad.
	Hillary herself, who never, even for a moment, stopped to consider the possibility that non-Clinton worlds existed.
	They had everything ready for a huge party, including loaded fireworks machines.
	Last week, to the surprise of many, many people, we learned that Planet Clinton was just a myth.
	Let's ask RT America's Ed Schultz, who knows Hillary personally, if he thinks that Mrs.
	Clinton still believes it herself.
	Ed Hall, thank you so much for joining us.
	So, who was it that created the world of Clinton?
	Was it her campaign chiefs?
	Was it maybe Bill or anyone else?
	Hmm.
	Well, I think that there was a lot of people that contributed to that.
	The world of Hillary is one of power and influence.
	And the world of Hillary is global.
	And there's a lot of factors that play into her success over the years.
	And it is amazing that she's not president of the United States with all the resources globally that they were able to put together.
	I find it...
	It's a bigger story that she's not president than it is Donald Trump being president, considering the world of Hillary.
	Oh, man.
	The world has gone insane, John.
	Just insane.
	Insane with analysis and ideas.
	I'm going to have to call time here, John.
	I think we have to end the show.
	I have to get out of here on time.
	I have to leave at 4.30.
	It's already 2.20, so I've got to get the show out and everything.
	Okay, well, I got a couple of gems for the Sunday show.
	And I have a face bag gem for Sunday as well.
	Oh, the face bag.
	Oh, yeah.
	You're going to love the face bag gem.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Dynamite.
	Okay.
	Good.
	Yes.
	I agree.
	Very good.
	Very good.
	So we...
	Let me see.
	Where am I here?
	This...
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	And thank you, John.
	Woo-hoo, thank you.
	Woo-hoo, woo-hoo.
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	Adios, mofos!
	Come on!
	We turn against each other based on divisions of big race, of big religion, of big...
	If we fall for...
	If we fall.
	Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Over.
	Just because, you know, it sounds funnier.
	The tweets are, sir, sir.
	The tweets are, sir.
	What?
	Visions, race, or religion.
	Yes!
	If we...
	Woo-hoo!
	Chauvinist and sexist and misogynist.
	Then chauvinist and sexist and misogynist.
	Then chauvinist and sexist and misogynist and chauvinist and sexist and misogynist.
	Then chauvinist and sexist and misogynist and chauvinist and sexist and misogynist.
	Then chauvinist and sexist and misogynist.
	Then chauvinist and sexist and chauvinist and sexist.
	Then chauvinist and sexist and misogynist.
	Then chauvinist and sexist.
	Then chauvinist and sexist and misogynist.
	Then chauvinist and sexist.
	Then chauvinist and sexist and misogynist.
	Then chauvinist and sexist and misogynist.
	Then chauvinist and sexist and misogynist and sexist and misogynist.
	Then chauvinist and sexist and misogynist and sexist and misogynist.
	You're just wrong.
	Get them out, get them out, get them out of here.
	Out, out, out, out.
	Get them out, out, get them out, get them out of here.
	Get the hell out of here.
	Get them out, out, get them out of here.
	Out, out, out, out, out.
	Get them out, out, get them out, get them out of here.
	Get the hell out of here.
	Forget about those people.
	Make great deal.
	Incredible.
	So look, isn't it crazy?
	Isn't it ridiculous?
	What?
	Crazy, crazy, crazy, ridiculous.
	Isn't it crazy?
	Is it ridiculous?
	What?
	Crazy. Ridiculous. Pops. Pops. Pops. Crazy. Pops. Pops. Crazy. Pops. Pops. Pops. Crazy. Pops. Pops. Ridiculous. Pops. Pops. Ten feet higher.
	The wall just got ten feet higher.
	Ten feet higher.
	I said, the wall just got ten feet higher.
	Ten feet higher.
	I said, the wall just got ten feet higher.
	I'm building a wall, okay?
	I'm building a wall.
	I'm building a wall, okay?
	I'm building a wall. I'm building a wall. I'm building a wall. I'm building a wall. I'm building a wall.
	Amen. Amen.
	Fist bump.
	Adios, mofo.
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