It's Thursday, June 30th, 2016, and time once again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 838.
This is No Agenda.
Reading crappy books so you don't have to.
And we're broadcasting live from the capital of the drone.
Stars say it here in FEMA Region 6 on this award-winning podcast.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm caressing the award, the trophy, finally achieved.
I'm John C. DeVore.
It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
Well, I know that to be factually untrue, because if we want the trophy, I believe we have to send Bunny.
Yes, Bunny.
Bunny has to go there.
We have to send money.
Bunny!
You want to take a trip?
Money.
Money.
I thought you meant Bunny.
No, money, man.
We got to...
Hey, screw that.
Congratulations, John.
Well, thank you.
And congratulations to you.
You're the one that produces the show so expertly.
They took the Best Producer award away, I think.
Really?
I didn't even see it on there.
Really?
Best Produced?
Best Produced, I think, is not available.
Otherwise, you would win it.
Thank you.
Well, mainly I want to thank our producers, the actual producers of the show, which is everybody who is listening and contributes with, of course, financial contributions, information, insider info, artwork, sound, jingles, feedback.
We don't call you producers for nothing, people, so congratulations.
Best news and politics podcast.
And you know what was crazy?
I thought that this was going to happen next week because I had to be on Skype and we even sent in our bios, if you'll recall, after the show.
I sent in our bios.
We were going to be on Skype.
Yeah, and so I thought it was next week.
All of a sudden I hear people like, oh, congratulations.
So I go to see the podcast awards and then, oh, wait a minute!
Podcast gate!
Some falsification in the voting process.
Did you follow any of that?
No, tell me.
Oh, so everyone's like, hey, you won.
I'm like, how can this be?
This makes no sense.
So I check it out.
There's a big note.
All the winners are on hold because, you know, there's some tool out there that bots were using and we have to figure it out.
I'm like, oh my God, there's...
Fake voting going on in the podcast awards?
I'm shocked, I tell you.
And we know it's not our producers because our guys...
We've been begging them to do it for years.
No one ever does it for us.
Oh, what's the point?
They don't care.
But I'm going to pick us up.
As far as they're concerned, we're already gold.
Well, this is true.
Uh...
But anyway, and congratulations to all the other nominees.
Just being nominated in that fine category was honor enough.
Don't you agree, John?
Oh yeah, that's right.
What am I thinking?
It's so interesting that people are saying, I haven't won an award for how long?
It's almost been 10 years.
I only have...
I have the Hall of Fame award from the podcast.
That's just Lifetime Achievement Hall of Fame.
It's all...
Yeah, it means it's time for me to die.
What are we going to do about this guy?
He hasn't won anything.
And everyone knows him.
Hey, thanks for putting the buzzkill on my award.
Okay.
When did you get that?
Last year.
I agree.
You deserve that award.
Because it was a Pioneer.
It was actually a Pioneer Award.
Pioneer Awards, I think, are great.
Because the guys who started the whole thing, they never get credit.
Most of the time, they fall off, you know, at some point, like recently, when those guys from PBS started to say, well, we invented podcasting.
Oh, yes, of course, of course.
And Ricky Gervais is the podfather.
Yeah, we know how it works.
It's okay.
It's okay.
It doesn't bother me.
It really doesn't.
But I took the title Podfather away from you.
Yeah, that award's fine.
So that's a good award.
Yeah.
I'm thinking about more when you're like 70 and they've noticed that, shit, this guy's done a billion great movies and he's never won a damn thing.
What are we going to do?
We got to do something with him.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, what an honor.
Fabulous.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, everybody, who voted.
But more importantly, thank you all for doing it with us.
And a number of emails came in, people saying, oh, man, you're going to get so much attention.
Are you insane?
I got that same mail.
No.
I sent a note back.
It's like, let me think.
No.
You're going to get a lot of attention.
I said, yeah, you, a nun, and three homeless.
Exactly.
It was pretty much about it.
Nobody, I mean, I, in fact, a couple of years ago when they did these awards, I checked out, I started checking out all the nominees and who actually won these awards.
Just to see, maybe, well, maybe there'll be something good here.
No, it was all mainstream stuff, pretty much.
Well, yeah.
And not only that, but either that or it was just...
It wasn't...
I hate to say this because a lot of people podcast.
And except for maybe five or six of these podcasts out of thousands...
Most of them are hard to listen to.
I find them not entertaining at all.
I personally believe a lot of that is because of the quality of the audio.
That's something I'm very anal about, and I think it's very important.
There's an element of that, but if material was good, I think it would at least make up a little bit for the...
Somebody I know well has started up a podcast recently.
And I went to check it out.
And there's, I think, three or four episodes out.
And it's all poorly modulated.
And I realized that this person had done a lot of broadcasting or done podcasting of a sort.
But it was all this stuff where you have ten engineers and some guy miking the person up.
But I guess this person's never mic'd themselves.
So I tell you, the podcast sounds mostly like this.
I wouldn't be making too many jokes today, because you sound like you put your underwear over the microphone today, but that's just a Skype anomaly, unfortunately.
I'm not, you know, over-popping my peas.
No.
And, oh, as an aside, please do not email me with your better VoIP solution.
It's just not necessary.
I appreciate it, but...
People still do that?
Oh, my God.
Yeah, all the time.
But they don't understand things like latency.
Yeah, we can make it sound dynamite.
But it would be like this.
In the morning, John!
And in the morning to you, Adam.
And how are you today?
I'm good.
Outstanding.
That's pretty much what it would be.
So that's not going to work.
Anyway, anyway, anyway.
Plenty of stuff going on today.
Plenty of stuff.
But I'll tell you what I did, and then you can start into where you want to start.
I got halfway through the Benghazi report, which is very interesting.
There's a lot of interesting things in there that I think are important.
We'll discuss that later.
Let's discuss it right off the top.
Really?
Well, then let's discuss the book I read, which came in yesterday.
You read a book?
Woo!
Stop!
Oh, hold on a second!
Stop the show!
Stop the show!
There's something wrong without him!
Yeah, I read a book.
Thanks.
I read a book.
I placed a pre-order on Amazon.
And let me see if I have this.
Yeah, here it is.
This is the book Crisis of Character written by Gary J. Byrne, former Presidential Secret Service officer.
Hold on one second.
Now, didn't this guy...
This may be the Mandela effect.
Here we go.
Here we go.
But I have this sense that this book came out already, like two years ago.
Or was it just a different Secret Service guy?
But there was some Secret Service guy who wrote a book...
And it's got all these stories in there about the ashtray or the vase that Hillary tossed at Bill and hit him in the head.
I believe that that was the preamble to the book, and I don't know if it came out then or not.
I don't think so.
There was another book that came out.
It had a different title.
And I got the sense it was by the same guy because I saw this guy.
Now, that may be because Secret Service guys have kind of a similar look.
Well, he was Secret Service Uniform Division, so he always wore a uniform.
It's interesting that he was from the Secret Service Uniform Division because these are the guys that just stand next to the door all day long.
Yeah, they don't do it.
And they just live.
I bet you they gossip.
Oh, yeah.
They hear everything.
So this came in yesterday.
I interrupted the Benghazi report, because I'm sure we can do all that on Sunday, as more bull crap comes out in the mainstream about it, and I'll give you the real lowdown.
So I read this, and one day, you know, I can do this, and I did it for you, and I'm very, very, well...
For me?
For you, yes, and everybody else.
I'm very disappointed.
Here's, well, interesting, you bring up the Viles story.
Here is Gary Byrne on Fox, I think it was with Megan Kelly yesterday.
No, it wasn't Megan Kelly.
The Vace story is I came in one morning to go to work early, came in and worked out, and then as I headed over to the post, I ran into two house residence workers that were going home, and they said, oh, you better go over and see your buddy.
We had a problem last night.
So I went over to the mansion, posed on the ground floor, and I said, what's going on?
And I heard something happen.
They said, you know, Mr.
and Mrs.
Clinton had had this horrendous fight.
It was so loud that the staff people on the ground had walked away, you know, from the elevator shaft.
The sound was coming down.
And then they heard a crash.
And then when it was investigated, they saw a broken vase on the floor.
Now, this has been reported to be not true.
And they reported that a lamp was thrown.
Well, a lamp wasn't thrown.
A vase was.
Now, the vase was on one side of the room and broken on the other side of the room.
Right.
The vase sat on a long, oblong table that was on the front of the living part.
So it didn't fall?
I doubt it.
Yeah.
So, yeah, it looked like it had been launched and it was shattered.
And the reason I know this is true is because when I heard the story, after I heard it, having worked at the White House and know how the White House works, I knew if something like that had happened where the debris would be.
So I walked down to the curator's office and looked inside the curator's office.
And there was a cardboard box with mostly blue and some white on it.
So I knew it was true.
So this is how the book starts out.
And along with that, apparently Hillary socked Bill a black eye during that same fight.
So let me get this straight.
This contentiously married couple who have a relationship of convenience of some sort, maybe crazy in love with each other early on and time passes, had a fight.
Yeah, I know.
Unbelievable.
How can a man and a woman do such a thing?
And I want to say, Donald Trump better stop saying that this is the book that shows Hillary's not electable because it's just not.
It's just not in here.
What this is, there are a couple pieces that are fun.
I'm going to read from it.
What this is, is a guy saying, Secret Service gets a bum rap.
We work very hard.
We put our lives in danger.
It's really a very angry tome about the Secret Service and how they loved Papa Bush.
Then when the Clintons came in, it's interesting to see the attitude of the Democrats, or I'd say the Clinton Democrats perhaps, who were just coming in saying, oh, I can see people with no pass all of a sudden at the pool, with his feet in the pool, and he goes, excuse me, you got a pass?
I don't need a pass, it's our house now.
Stuff like that.
Now this, of course, is all his experience and through the filters which he viewed all that, but Hillary, total see you next Tuesday.
A total biatch, according to him.
Bill, very nice, very cool, but they were so tired of covering up all the girlfriends.
And did we talk about Eleanor Mondale in this?
Because she was clearly one of Bill's girlfriends when he was messing around with Monica.
Tell all.
So she died recently.
She died a couple years ago at 51, brain cancer.
So this is the daughter of the great, was it Vice President Mondale?
Vice presidential candidate, Mondale?
He was a presidential candidate, actually.
Yeah, presidential.
Very hot.
I don't think he was...
Super hot.
Now, you know, the problem, I can't remember, and most people can't, who was the vice presidential candidate for, well, McCain, because it comes up quite a few times.
I would say, who was the vice presidential candidate, off the top of your head, Romney?
Right.
Who?
Vice presidential candidate for Romney?
Yeah.
I can't remember.
This is a common situation.
Who was it?
I don't really know because of the Mandela effect.
I think it was Ryan.
I think it was Ryan.
That's right, Ryan.
Who is it?
Okay, right.
But let's just move on.
I'm just pointing this out.
This is the way everybody is.
It's like coming in second place in the, you know, who lost the World Series in 1964.
Right, you don't remember.
It's Mandela effect, exactly.
Exactly.
Well, it's not technically.
So what this book attempts to do is to...
To frame Hillary Clinton and the Clintons as a team as really people of horrible character.
And the timing of this book is interesting in regards to the Benghazi report when you read in this Crisis of Character book.
Byrne saying they only care about the optics and the political fallout from anything.
Anything that's going on, it was only about the politics, not about the American people.
And in the Benghazi report, we now know that there was a three-hour meeting while people were getting killed and they were talking about the optics and the politics of it all and came up with this video lie.
But I digress.
A couple of things just to read from the book.
And I want to stop you right now.
What?
Because I'm not a fan of Hillary, and I believe she's probably a grouse and has other issues, and she's probably mean to people.
But here's the thing that I'm going to...
This is my big pet peeve about all this.
Should I have the jingle ready?
No, no.
It's not that kind of a pet peeve.
Where, oh where, is any audio tape of any of her screaming or yelling or acting like a crazy person?
You know, in the government, people are carrying around wires.
Your phone, using like, there's a number of good apps that can turn your cell phone into a beautiful recorder.
Does a fantastic job.
In fact, once in a while, you see a press conference.
This guy's got his phone held.
Yeah, I use it for my Uber.
Well, there's no more Uber, but I use it to record stuff in the car.
Sure.
Well, do you think because we have not heard it?
And mind you, when the Clintons were in the White House...
Hold on.
When the Clintons were in the White House, we didn't have iPhones.
I just do want to point that out.
No, but you had recorders and everything's being recorded left and right.
Well, are you saying because we've never heard it?
Are we saying because we never heard it, it didn't happen?
I'm not saying it didn't happen.
I prefaced it with it probably did happen.
But still, until the tape shows up, I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt.
Okay.
Maybe she cries all the time.
I mean, you don't know she's screaming at people.
No, no.
And then when she was over here at Florida Lee having lunch or I guess a dinner with all her staffers, the gaggling women, she was very, you know, everyone says she just kind of keeps to herself.
She doesn't even order.
She just sits there on her phone looking at it.
I mean, I don't know.
I'd like to see some evidence of this.
I know they're trying to goad her into going nuts on the stage, but they haven't done that well yet.
Mm-hmm.
I don't know.
I just don't know.
So a couple of things that are interesting in the book.
One is the ongoing ever interdepartmental feud between the FBI and the Secret Service.
There's a lot about that.
We know there's interdepartmental strife.
But the Clintons, according to Byrne, use the FBI as their own personal little investigative unit.
I had forgotten about this.
This goes back to, what's the guy's name?
Aldrich, I believe.
Aldrich.
He was, I think, the FBI agent who, on behalf of the Clintons, and this came out later in the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee, that White House office personnel and security had requested FBI to conduct more than 900 illegal background checks on its political opponents.
Do you remember that?
Yeah.
I'd forgotten about it.
And of course we had the White House, the Travelgate.
I've forgotten about that too.
Where Hillary wanted to fire everybody and bring in her cronies.
So it's all just gripe, gripe, gripe, gripe, gripe.
Interesting little passage in this book is this.
The First Lady took a surprising liking to firearms, especially a Thompson submachine gun, an original and an American classic.
I've never shot one of those.
I'd love to.
Al Capone's legendary Chicago typewriter.
Well, Mrs.
Clinton, so they had one of these dog and pony show days and everyone comes and says, you know, hey, this is what the Secret Service is.
And then, of course, they take everybody to the gun range.
When Mrs.
Clinton let loose a spray of man-stopping.45 ACP rounds into the paper, dirt and burns of her outdoor one-way range, I thought she'd erupt in a maniacal laugh.
She just smiled ear to ear.
Most newcomer women shy away, but not her.
If not for the assault weapon ban, she probably would have taken the Thompson home with her.
Her neck shots zipped right into the target's crotch.
Everyone chuckled, turned away, or glanced at the president.
Ha!
I can just see.
I can just see.
We also provided our visitors with a rifle, rested its stock on a sandbag, and sighted targets at 50 yards.
The visitor just had to pull the trigger to hit the target.
I was impressed with Mrs.
Clinton pulled the stock of the rifle onto her shoulder.
Now, recoil can slam right into you, but she knew what she was doing.
High-caliber rounds like the 7mm Remington Magnum can snap a collarbone.
And he goes on how she had no problem shooting whatsoever.
I didn't know that about her, that she liked shooting guns.
Kind of cool.
It surprised me.
And this is a very politically charged book, and it's very disappointing.
The last three chapters take this unsatisfied experience the guy had with the Clintons.
It does not sound presidential.
It doesn't sound great.
It sounds like total a-holes, total power-hungry a-holes.
And then he morphs that into, it's obvious why she didn't do anything for Benghazis.
So, politically charged book.
Not worth reading.
Done.
Sorry.
I wish there was something in there.
No smoke and gun.
Nothing.
I know.
Disappointing.
I know.
I know.
Well, I had the sense that that was going on.
Crisis of character.
Meanwhile, back on the scene as we talk about character once again, and I really don't want to do the Benghazi report today.
I will just say that it's a fantastic read.
It's much better than this crisis of character.
Because they have all the witnesses that were shuttled off to Germany, you recall?
It wasn't just the four guys, including the ambassador.
There were 30 people.
And other people got hurt, too.
So all those interviews, although the people are not identified only by what their function was, are also interviewed.
Before you go there, I want to finish a little thing on the thing you just did.
I'm looking on Amazon right now.
There's actually about 20 of these books.
Almost identical.
Oh, really?
Makes total sense.
Yeah.
The question is...
And the main thing is the timeline.
And the timeline is really damning.
Well, again?
I'm sorry?
I'm sorry.
Sorry?
On September, the evening of September 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th, while she was there, you know, we have meeting notes internally.
There was a three-hour meeting while the Benghazi people were saying, send help, send help.
There were guys on the runway for four hours in Spain not believing for help.
And they had this three-hour meeting, and there were ten action points, five of which were, how do we explain this is because of that silly video?
Well, I've got a clip that I want you to continue this after you hear the clip, because this is Charles Krauthimer, and he discusses the timeline, and I want to get this out of the way so we can hear what you say against what he's going to say.
Everybody wants to talk about her role.
She is in one of the roles.
But the real story is here.
The failure of the chain of command, starting with the President, going to Secretary Panetta, and going down to the Joint Chiefs.
The President had a meeting with Panetta and the Joint Chief of Staff Commander at about 5, 6 o'clock.
By 7 o'clock they ordered, apparently Panetta said, this is Eastern time, ordered everything be done to help them.
Nothing was done until it was all over.
But here's the worst part.
What Cummings and other Democrats will say, it wouldn't have made any difference anyway.
That is completely irrelevant.
The reason is, yes, in hindsight, we know they wouldn't have gotten there in time.
But at the time, nobody knew when it was going to end.
It could have gone 10 hours.
10 hours, 20 hours.
How can you not send help when the ambassador was missing?
But it's even bigger than that.
How can the military not obey a direct order from the Secretary of Defense, which he says was backed up by the President and the Secretary of State Clinton?
How can the military not obey that order?
That should be the big investigation.
Who defied it?
I agree with you.
The other is...
Where was the president during those six hours?
He's in the Situation Room, nicely on camera, during the Bin Laden raid, which is essentially out of his hands the minute he launched it.
But yet here in a situation that is changing, fluctuating, requires presidential or at least secretarial instructions, nowhere to be seen.
That's the scandal.
And that's what we don't know.
What difference at this point does it make?
Exactly!
What difference at this point does it make?
Well...
Okay.
So I have not read enough of the report to have an answer on the chain of command.
The main thing is the cover-up of whatever happened and the lies and the twerp went out and did all the Sunday news shows and said it's a video to video to video to video.
In fact, this came up in the State Department briefing yesterday just to make sure it had nothing to do with the video.
Can you just say just what the essential facts are on the role the video played in the attack?
I think it's, nothing has changed in the fact that we have acknowledged before that our initial assessment took into consideration what was happening elsewhere in the region.
By the way, they continue to refer to Cairo.
Cairo and Benghazi, I wouldn't call that in the region.
Would you?
No, I wouldn't.
And I would also want to mention that as people listen to Toner, who is doing the talking here, the binder this guy's got.
This thing is like at least three inches thick and it's got these huge rings.
Huge.
Haven't they ever heard of an iPad or something?
He is constantly, constantly fiddling with it.
Yeah.
I know.
Constantly.
As he talks, he's moving the page over and he moves it back.
Then he's moving it over and he's moving it back.
And then he's thumbing through the tabs.
There's a hundred of these tabs.
And he's thumbing through those.
Then he's moving it over and he's moving it back.
And this thing is sitting off the desk.
If it was any bigger, it would be blocking his head.
And that's why I have to cut out all the pauses in his answers, or most of them.
I try to leave some in just to give you the feeling that he's struggling.
But it takes forever for him to flip through these tabs.
We're in the region.
We had had protests at embassies, including Cairo, including Khartoum, based on this video that had...
It appeared on YouTube.
Which in the report, the demonstrations in Cairo was reported as rocks and spray paint.
So it wasn't all that scary.
That was seen as blaspheme against Prophet Muhammad.
And so I guess I go back to the fact that And it's not just unique to Benghazi, but in any kind of situation like this, it is hard to get all of the facts right away and to present them to the American people.
To present them to the American people in a way that they'll just carry on and not ask questions.
We, at the time, did the best we could to convey the facts as we knew them at the time to the American people.
Which is a lie, because they knew just hours after the attack that it was a coordinated attack.
So it's a lie.
Just to clarify, you no longer believe that the video played any role in motivating these extremists armed or...
I don't think we've ever been...
To be honest, I don't think we've ever...
Been able to categorically say that the video played no role?
As opposed to all the lies I just told you.
Yeah, it's a funny thing to say.
To be honest, the rest of it...
Whenever someone says, I'll be honest with you, I say, okay, I'm going to discount everything you just said then.
People usually go, huh?
What?
I think as you go on here, we should at least have one explanation.
There's no agenda explanation for this, and it's the only thing that makes sense.
And when Krauthimer talks about the president being out of action for six hours, it actually falls right back into what we...
And we understood that it was 56 days before the re-election of the president.
They were worried.
Romney was doing pretty well.
According to the bogus polls.
According to the bogus polls, and this is not, of course, in this report, but what we heard and understood is they wanted to do a kind of a October surprise.
The idea was to have a kidnapping, and then the president would show his dedication and his leadership, and we would spring the ambassador free from this crime.
from this hostage situation, which was set up with guys from Tunisia.
But instead, some other dude showed up and everything went awry.
Well, what happened was, to recall the What would happen was there was a concurrent CIA operation going on that the other side didn't know about.
They were selling guns.
They were doing a gun deal while this was going on.
At the same time, they did not communicate this to each other, and so this thing got all fouled up.
And you ended up with the dead, you know, four dead and the dead ambassador, which is really pretty rare.
And Hillary's storming around during, and she gets very angry about this, and she felt that somehow, because she would be part of it, that they screwed it up.
And so she was very...
Beside herself.
And this actually explains almost everything, including the stand-down orders, because stand-down, stand-down, we have an operation underway.
Yeah, they thought everything was rolling the way it was supposed to.
This was a known fact within Hillary's world for sure.
And I'm sure the President knew too.
He must have known.
Yeah, he had to.
And this thing went sideways, and now you have...
And somebody in the Republican side of the aisle knows this.
And that's why they keep bringing it back.
They have investigation after investigation, trying to get somebody to crack.
Or those guys that disappeared, the ones that were rousted, immediately shipped out of the country, which...
I'm sure it was addressed in there.
Anyway, you can continue.
I just thought we should...
We have new listeners.
I think we have the nun and the homeless that are now listening because we got nominated and won an award.
So I wanted to make sure they knew what we were talking about.
Hey, nun!
Hey, nun!
In the morning to you, nun.
Yeah.
And we got this from pretty reliable sources.
As reliable as they can be.
But it does fit into everything.
And it makes a lot of sense.
They were running scared at the time.
We were doing the show.
I remember the vibe.
To categorically say that the video played no role...
But what I think we have been able to say is that this wasn't a demonstration gone awry.
This was a coordinated attack.
So you don't believe the video was the motivating factor for this attack?
I'm not getting into...
Right, right.
I can't say that it's...
I'm talking about the video.
Yes, yes, yes.
Okay.
You don't believe that.
Yes, we've said that before.
I can't say that it was not...
It played no role, but I just can't, it was, sorry to be, I just don't want to say categorically, it played no role.
It did play a role.
The role it played was in the play.
Yes.
Yeah, I was just going to say, that's a role, a role.
It was a part of the whole bullcrap scenario, and that is a role, and he can't deny it.
Yes.
What is interesting here is that there's something else that just happened yesterday, which I don't think has gotten a lot of newsplay, but the questions were certainly being asked in the State Department.
This time, Elizabeth Kennedy Trudeau has to answer the question.
This has made what it come down to is the illegal guns.
And man, there's a lot going on with this administration and gun running and giving guns to people, whether it's Mexicans, which we'll get to later, smuggling them over the border illegally to try and entrap people, or whether it's selling them out of the CIA annex to the Libyans.
This just happened in Jordan, and here's the exchange, and wow, they're freaking out now.
Hi, there was a joint Al Jazeera-New York Times report, rather I should say New York Times-Al Jazeera report, alleging that some members of the Jordanian intelligence structure may have taken weapons intended for rebels fighting against the Assad regime and sold those weapons on the black market.
What is this building's reaction?
What conversations has it had with the Jordanian government?
We all know that weapons turn up on the black market all the time, but...
Given the complexity of the situation in Syria, it does raise some alarm bells.
Okay, so thanks for the question.
We have no comment on that report.
There is an ongoing investigation.
Investigation!
Investigation!
Do we need the hot Russian chick?
Here she comes.
United States remains committed to Jordan's security and stability, and we're proud to stand side by side with Jordan in the global counter-ISIL coalition.
But on that particular report, there's an ongoing investigation.
I just can't speak to it, Ross.
The CIA is not coming either on its covert transfers of weapons, and yet it is a U.S. government policy.
Who else should we ask about this?
This is a very good question.
I like the hot Russian chick whose name we can't remember.
No, no, no.
We can remember it.
We just can't pronounce it.
Okay.
This seems to be policy of the U.S. And we know it's policy.
Iran-Contra.
This is policy and it usually doesn't work out well.
So it was policy with Iran-Contra didn't work out well.
Fast and Furious.
I mean, Holder, a lot of people feel they had to quit and kind of get out of town.
Did you know that one of the guns used in the Paris terrorist attack was one of the guns from Phoenix, from Fast and Furious, from the gun running?
No.
Yes.
Yeah.
That's a long way to go for a gun.
Judicial watchers.
That gun's having the time of its life.
They had a report of investigation.
They had, let's see, the case against the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms.
They tracked the gun, and one of the guns used in the Paris attack was tracked back to one of the gun-running operations in Phoenix who were sanctioned to sell guns illegally.
Good work.
Good work.
Okay, we continue.
As I said, I have no comment on that.
More of a policy.
These weapons potentially ending up in the hands of extremists.
Is it a consequence that the U.S. is willing to accept in order to prop up rebel forces in Syria?
As it's an ongoing investigation, I just don't have a comment on that.
It's a policy.
It's not the only red flag.
Attention, attention.
We should have Matt ask a question, please.
For example, last September the Pentagon acknowledged that the Syrian rebels that it trained gave at least a quarter of their weapons cache to al-Nusra.
How many red flags do there have to be for the U.S. to stop arming rebels?
So we're going to leave it where I left it.
Matt, you had a question?
Yeah, I just...
Who's doing the investigation?
It's actually an interagency investigation, but the State Department is contributing.
And she's really such a valley girl.
She talks a little bit, like, up-talking, and she doesn't...
So what are the other agencies involved?
Yeah, I can't speak to all the...
I can't speak to that!
...agencies, but it's multiple U.S. agencies.
We're contributing information.
Well, she does make a good point.
Hold on, hold on.
Just one thing.
I mean, the White House was just asked about this in their briefing, right?
I believe they were.
Yeah.
You know what they did?
They refused to comment on it.
No, no.
They referred the questions to the State Department and to the FBI. So it's not even coordinated, John.
They're in a complete disarray.
That's one thing we've learned over these last seven years.
These guys don't talk to each other.
That's why the Benghazi thing went south.
Exactly.
So, and on this, I'm saying there's an ongoing investigation.
But you won't even say who's doing the investigation?
It's my understanding.
It's interagency.
It's multiple government aid.
I don't have a rundown of who exactly.
If I have anything more, we'll come back to you on that.
I'm going to hold my breath.
Hold on one second.
How long should I hold it?
Probably not until the end of the briefing.
Okay.
So, shut up, slave.
We're not going to tell you anything.
Nothing at all.
Now, here's what I think should happen, because this is the woman who showed up early on in the Bagazzi fracas, and that is the mother of Sean Smith, Patricia Smith.
Who was at the coffin, the casket ceremony at the airport with Hillary Clinton.
And we know this is 10 days after everything happened.
And she leans over and says, don't worry, it's this video.
We're going to get to the bottom of it.
And this woman is dynamite.
I think she is the smoking gun, but she's a loose cannon and someone needs to rein her in.
And if I were Donald Trump and I was going after Clinton, this woman needs to bring her in, put her on Xanax, give her the script, and she'll be great.
Because otherwise, she's not that great.
So you personally spoke with Hillary Clinton.
She said she would get back to you and she never did.
That's correct.
I spoke to her at the coffin ceremony and she told me what she told me.
Within about five feet of my son's coffin and she lied to me then.
And she said, we will get you answers, and then you have never heard back from her or her team.
No, no.
Actually, she told me that it was the fault of the video.
And I said, what video?
I didn't know anything about a video.
And she said it was a video that caused all this.
And if it's any different, she will get back to me.
I have not heard from her other than to hear.
I called back over there to the State Department asking what's happening.
I'm sure he's in, rightfully so.
and they tell me we cannot tell you you are not a member of the immediate family and to this day People of America, this is still what your country does to you.
She still has not spoken to me or anybody in her group telling me what happened.
I'd like to see her in stripes.
I think somebody ought to...
Yes, I talked to Johnny.
I talked to Tom Ford.
He agrees she'd look dynamite in stripes.
What?
If they're vertical, thinning.
I guess what she told the committee, I haven't seen the report, but I guess what she told the committee is all her words, and nobody's questioning anything.
This is crazy.
It was her department, her area, and when she talked to me, she said she didn't know anything about it.
Now tell me, if it's her department, why didn't she take care of the situation?
Patricia, we're going to keep in touch.
I thank you in the meantime.
Please, please, do something.
Make her admit to what she did.
Please, do something.
Don't just talk.
Don't just listen to her.
Question it.
Make her say something.
Have her call me.
I'm still waiting.
Hillary, I'm waiting for what you promised me.
All I heard was you getting on TV calling me a liar.
That's not true, Hillary.
I am not the liar.
You are the liar.
Woohoo!
So, there's nothing like a troubled mom, but they've really got to do something with her if they want to make it useful.
You know, back to the guns in, was it Lebanon?
Jordan.
Jordan.
Since the administration is so notorious for having, you know, slipping guns to whoever, you know, Fast and Furious was a gun-running operation, and we discussed this for newcomers.
I might as well give you some background.
We discussed this on the show.
There was a guy that was a Sinaloa cartel guy arrested, and he showed up in Chicago.
Yes.
There was a deposition and a request from his lawyer to get some information from the government in Washington, D.C. And he outlined the entire scheme in his...
Testimony.
Deposition.
This was a lawyer.
This was a lawyer's request for...
For documents.
He was doing discovery and he made this...
I think the commentary came out then.
Or it could have been on a deposition from the criminal himself.
The thing was that the U.S. government was working with the Sinaloa cartel to make them the one and only...
In charge of all the drugs.
Because that way they're easier to control by us.
And so it was a scheme.
Another one of our massive schemes we're doing constantly.
And we're good at it, usually.
But this was not good.
I've never seen any evidence that this group is good at anything.
No.
And this was documented.
It's available.
I think we even had links to it in one of the newsletters.
And you can read it yourself.
And it was getting everybody all excited.
Oh, shit.
Fuck me.
Sorry.
What did you do?
I just spilled coffee all over my...
Hold on.
Oh, jeez.
You want to stop?
No, I don't want to.
No, keep going.
Keep going.
Okay, so anyway, so they had...
This came out, and this also has something to do with Guzman getting, you know, escaping prison every so often as part of it.
And it was a very elaborate thing, and it made a lot of sense.
I'm now thinking that these guys supposedly selling these guns that were...
The guns are supposed to go to some rebel group in Syria, and these Jordanians got a hold of them, and now they're selling them.
I'm thinking that was intentional.
Oh, hello.
That's why Hot Russian Chick says it's policy.
Yes, it's policy.
It's all intentional.
And here's the way I would write it.
Hey, we got a bunch of disgruntled guys here that are working in intelligence and doing counterintelligence and they keep asking for a raise.
Is there any way?
I had a great idea.
Is there anyone who can get us some guns, let them put them out on the open market and just collect some money?
Give them like five grand apiece and they'll satisfy their needs.
Because we can't afford giving them a raise unless you want to give us more money.
Oh yeah, okay, no problem.
Yeah, we'll get a whole shipment going out.
We'll just send it over to you guys.
Silly.
Well, I think a lot of this stems from, and we may touch on this later, a lot of it stems from the fact that we do not have a congressional approval for war.
And so that's why it's no boots on the ground.
Well, I meant like, you know, really like 10,000 military boots, not just boots on the ground.
Well, you know, we're not really doing anything.
We're just leading and training people.
Because it's completely unconstitutional what's taking place.
I believe somewhere...
I have to look.
I might have a clip.
It was either Obama or it was Hillary Clinton who was saying, you know, we need to go to Congress and we need to get them to buy in.
You know, we really got to get sign-off on it.
Because in order to really launch the war, you can't just keep using the old authorization of use of military force.
So to circumvent that...
It has nothing to do with any of the things we're doing.
No, but to circumvent that...
We give it to friendly rebels and we train them.
We say, there, shoot there.
And that usually doesn't end well.
There's one clip that I took from the Toner press conference.
Uh-huh.
And I want to play it because I didn't realize, I listened to the whole thing, and I couldn't get any clips, and I heard that when you played, and I wasn't that thrilled.
Because it went on too long.
But I did notice something the third time he said it.
And he may have said it longer because after this I just gave up on him.
But the third time he said it, I said, wait a minute.
You don't keep repeating yourself over and over and over about something unless it's in your craw and it has something to do with something that could be misinterpreted or, you know, I mean, there's some reason for this.
And this is, let's see what clip is.
This is the Department of State Benghazi uniforms.
This is the third time he brought this up, and I want to explain in more detail what the problem was.
You know, and again, I don't want to speak for Department of Defense on what are its equities.
All I'm trying to say is, and there was this not even veiled allegation at the press conference this morning that somehow they were kept on hold because of the uniform issue is just incorrect.
That's what I'm addressing.
Yes, yes, that was in the report that the guys on the runway...
We're waiting to take off, and the report states they changed their in and out of their uniform four times.
Not quite sure what that means, but that's what I read in the report.
Well, they were, if you remember, we had another event probably some months back where a guy testified that he, or they had this guy, they were wearing local uniforms from some brigade that was a Some kick-ass Kurd Brigade, and they were wearing these Kurd uniforms.
Our guys were wearing Kurd uniforms, and then it got Erdogan all bent out of shape.
Ah, yeah, the YPG uniforms, yes.
Yeah, remember that?
Mm-hmm, of course.
So there's something going on with the uniforms.
And when Toner first – when he first brought it up, and I didn't pay attention to his first commentary.
It took me the third time to pick it up.
He says that there was a question asked in the earlier part of – an earlier press conference.
And some reporter accused them of stalling and dicking around while they were changing uniforms.
And every time Toner talked about it – and this was the third time you just heard – he got more elaborate.
And what he said, if you parsed it, he said, I can assure you, and it's bogus and there's no truth to it, that there was no uniform issue that caused a delay.
Well, thank you.
You just proved our point.
Which just said to me that they were changing uniforms, but it wasn't causing a delay because they were probably doing it in flight.
It was a stand-up.
No, according to the report, it was on the tarmac.
They're in the plane changing uniforms.
In the plane.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's not causing a delay.
So he's all bent out of shape about this.
This guy's going to be a real problem for the State Department because what he's done, for one thing, he brings it to the fore because he got my attention after he kept going on about it.
It brings it to the fore and then...
Because he's picky about not the changing of the uniforms, but that it caused a delay.
Right.
Mistake.
So he's taking a look and he's parsing a scenario and missing the main point of it because of some inaccuracy in the interpretation.
This guy is no good.
You can't do that.
He's a tab-turner.
That's all he's good at.
Tab-turning.
The minute he has to improvise, smoke comes out of his ears.
And so he was very...
And I want to emphasize, there was no delay.
And he made it...
It was just terrible the way he handled it.
And yeah, so apparently what we're doing over there, we're doing stuff that is, by international law, extremely illegal.
You can't be wearing the enemy's...
You know, suit.
You can't wear the uniform of the enemy or whatever you were doing or looking like...
I did get some feedback on that from some of our producers, our military producers.
And what they said is, although doubtful this happens on the battlefield, is often when they meet a group from a different country, they will swap patches.
And they'll put someone else's patch on, and then they'll give their patch, and those guys will put...
But that's more like a base hanging around.
It's kind of like swapping shirts at the end of a soccer game.
Like challenge coins.
Yeah, it's like a challenge.
Exactly.
It's a challenge coin.
Precisely.
Precisely.
Yeah, but that doesn't sound like what's going on here.
No, I know, but that is, you know, I'm just giving you what could come back.
Um...
Yeah, that could come out as what they were doing when it pierced.
It doesn't look like that to me.
And so it's all part of this illegal war.
I mean, we do all kinds of illegal stuff, and I think passing the guns to the Jordanians, you know, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, would really not be tolerated in an actual war.
No.
No.
But again, Sunday I'll have read the whole report, I'll have it marked up, and we'll have the no agenda take on it, which always includes something that the mainstream is missing, obfuscating, or just...
This book, I guarantee you, not a single person who's going to interview this guy has read the book.
Sounds like a boring book.
Sure.
But I still guarantee you no one read it.
That's what we do.
We do that.
So I will read, and it's not 800 pages, it's 799 of the Benghazi Report.
It's too long.
Tell me.
TLDR. Now, there was lots of other exciting stuff.
Mainly, CIA Director Brennan was at the Council on Foreign Relations.
Okay, stop right there.
Because I want to put this in.
Brennan was not at the Council on Foreign Relations.
He was everywhere.
And one of the places he was was the Council on Foreign Relations.
He was on CBS. He was on 60 Minutes.
Of course, 60 Minutes was a couple of weeks ago.
He was on CBS. He was on...
Judy interviewed him on NewsR.
He was on a road...
Judy interviewed him with a Q&A at CFR as well.
Okay.
Well, she was also sitting at a desk with him in some little office.
This was out of control, Brennan.
He was everywhere.
And I just kept seeing him everywhere.
I'm looking for clips and I'm going to one thing and the other.
There's Brennan again.
And his head is back and he's looking down his nose at Judy when he's sitting across from her.
And I just, there's something going on.
There's something going on.
Maybe it's a message to Trump.
Hey, we're here if you want to chat.
I mean, I just kept...
I saw way too much of him.
He's the head of the CIA. Doesn't he have anything else to do?
Well, I'd like to play a few clips from his CFR speech.
Okay.
Because I thought he was saying some very interesting things.
Now, of course, you know, he spoke about ISIS and we'll get to that.
But he had a couple of interesting topics.
Things we should be very afraid of in America.
So what else is there besides terrorism, global instability, cybersecurity, and nuclear proliferation?
Well, I don't know.
Is there anything else besides we're all going to die?
Stop.
Stop for a second.
If anyone's listened to the show for more than 100 episodes, I bring this up.
I don't bring it up all the time, but I bring it up once in a while, this cadence, the way people speak.
And you can tell what office they're working in and who else is speaking.
Because you pick up a milieu, characteristics of the milieu.
And the milieu, like, for example, with all the torps that were, and there's many of them that work inside the White House, they all have the same exact cadence, and it's pretty much epitomized by Susan Rice.
I brought this up before with other guys, and I think they're either in the agency or they're working out of some milieu that makes them sound like Meet the Beaver.
The Beaver Kid talks with his funny cadence.
And it's kind of a fast talking, but...
You mean Leave It to Beaver?
Is that what you're talking about?
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Yeah, Leave It to Beaver.
I forgot the exact name, but Leave It to Beaver has this, the main character, little kid, has this funny way of talking.
And it's like he really is a lousy actor is the way you have to conclude it.
But there's a bunch of people working in the agency and elsewhere that talk like this.
And Brennan is the worst example at the moment.
And you'll hear, anyone who remembers that old show, they will hear this, the beaver in his voice.
Well, let's listen to a little bit of the beaver then.
I think we can probably find something to play for a moment.
Here we go.
Is this working?
Oh.
Is that it?
Barbara Billings.
Cook inside.
Mom always does it cooking.
Whenever we cook outside, you always do it.
How come?
Is that it?
It's almost it, but it's close.
And it's really bad acting because of the style of it.
Oh, well, bad acting.
Let's just keep it at that.
Brennan the bad actor.
Listen to Brennan's cadence, and you'll hear this cadence in other milieus, but I think most of them come from the CIA, so there's a bunch of people in the CIA that talk like this.
So what else is there besides terrorism, global instability, cybersecurity, and nuclear proliferation that worries the CIA director and keeps CIA officers busy around the clock and around the globe?
Notice the spacing.
And it's like the beaver does the same thing.
It's this funny spacing.
In fact, that clip you play with the beaver had this pregnant pause between something within the same sentence.
It's kind of a staccato, choppy cadence.
Yeah.
Well, as a liberal arts guy from the baby boomer generation, the rapid pace of technological change during my lifetime has been simply dizzying.
Moreover, as we have seen with just about every scientific leap forward, new technologies often carry substantial risks to the same degree that they hold tremendous promise.
Nowhere are there stakes higher for our national security than in the field of biotechnology.
Recent advances in genome editing that offer great potential for breakthroughs in public health are also cause for concern.
Because the same methods could be used to create genetically engineered biological warfare agents.
And though the overwhelming majority of nation states have tended to be rational enough to refrain from unleashing a menace with such unpredictable consequences...
A subnational terrorist entity, such as ISIL, would have few compunctions in wielding such a weapon.
Oh, ISIL got the genetically modified mosquitoes, maybe.
The scope of the biothreat, as well as potential measures to mitigate it, were laid out very clearly last October in the bipartisan report of the Blue Ribbon Study Panel on Biodefense, chaired by former Senator Joe Lieberman and former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge.
As with the cyber threat, the international community's response to this issue lags behind the technology driving it.
Effectively countering this danger requires the development of national and international strategies, along with the consensus of the laws, standards, and authorities that will be needed.
Mmm.
Okay.
Ow.
So, bio.
Bio, genetically modified, very dangerous.
Now he's going to...
Talk about another danger.
This is all about dangers.
It's all the stuff we're working on, apparently.
You have no idea.
He's kind of giving away the store here because, you know, ISIS is working on genetically modified organisms so they can kill us all.
No!
They blow themselves up.
There's a much greater risk to entire nation-states, John.
But first, Brennan's going to crack a little joke.
As former Defense Secretary and CIA Director Bob Gates is fond of saying, when intelligence officers smell flowers, they look around for a coffin.
That remains a pretty good depiction of our intelligence mindset.
I smell flowers.
Must be a dead person nearby.
There's another little thing I've noted.
Brennan and there's a few other guys, when they talk about the CIA, they say CI. CI, yeah.
Because he's director of central intelligence.
He doesn't have to say agency.
Right.
Right.
But nobody else does that.
I'm going to start doing it.
Well, that'll make everyone suspicious.
Now, if I give you three guesses, what is the biggest, a large danger to any nation?
Cyber.
No.
Well, yeah, I'm sure.
But we already heard what he talked about.
So it's not cyber.
It's not ISIS. What is the most dangerous thing?
Lack of compassion.
One example, again taking a page from the biotech and life sciences sectors, is how a wide range of breakthroughs that potentially could extend life expectancy, such as new methods of fighting cancer and a greater understanding of the aging process, could reinforce the trend toward older populations in advanced nations.
Some of the world's leading economies and even the lesser economies could face even stronger headwinds from having significantly larger proportions of retired people and older people relative to working-age citizens.
Old people are going to kill us.
Yes, the old people.
Kill the aged.
Get rid of them.
We can't have you outliving your useful life.
Eliminate them!
What is he saying?
He's saying because of technological advances in science and medicine, people will become very old and they'll drag everything down.
Holy crap!
Does he know what he's saying?
It's like an offensive ageism.
Hello, old person.
But now, ladies and gentlemen, this has to be my favorite clip.
Because it justifies...
Justifies.
I'll just say it justifies.
Are you familiar with SAI, Mr.
Dvorak?
Another example is the array of technologies, often referred to collectively as geoengineering, that potentially could help reverse the warming effects of global climate change.
One that has gained my personal attention is stratospheric aerosol injection, or SAI, a method of seeding the stratosphere with particles that can help reflect the sun's heat in much the same way that volcanic eruptions do.
Chemtrails.
An SAI program could limit global temperature increases, reducing some risks associated with higher temperatures, and providing the world economy additional time to transition from fossil fuels.
This process is also relatively inexpensive.
Hear what he said, very important.
He said, it would give us time to transition away from fossil fuels.
So this is happening.
Does he know anything about who's really behind a lot of the...
You know, who's running the country besides the CIA? I don't think he cares.
The oil companies?
No, I think he doesn't care.
The CIA... Well, he's not going to be there for long with this attitude.
So, as we transition...
Away from fossil fuels, this is the President's words, this will give us ample time to do so by spraying aluminum and barium and all kinds of crap in the stratosphere.
What could possibly go wrong?
And, and, John, it's cheap!
This process is also relatively inexpensive.
The National Research Council estimates that a fully deployed SAI program would cost about $10 billion yearly.
Well, what are we waiting for?
What are we waiting for?
What are you waiting for?
Get it going already.
Oh, that's right.
You're already doing it.
Yeah.
As promising as it may be, moving forward on SAI would also raise a number of challenges for our government and for the international community.
Government?
Government.
His government, baby.
Government.
On the technical side, greenhouse gas emission reductions would still have to accompany SAI to address other climate change effects, such as ocean acidification, because SAI alone would not remove greenhouse gases from the atmosphere.
On the geopolitical side, the technology's potential to alter weather patterns and benefit certain regions of the world at the expense of other regions could trigger sharp opposition by some nations.
And we know from 1978, was then Cohen, I think was Secretary of Defense, he said, we need to get on this ship.
Other countries are doing weather modification.
That is not good if we're not all in and on board.
And of course, of Of course it's happening.
I'm fascinated by the fact that he'd go into this in the first place.
Obviously, he has a scientific background.
No, he said he's liberal arts.
Oh, wait a minute.
Let me look.
Oh, he's got a BA in political science, which, by the way, of all the...
No offense to everyone out there who's gotten a BA in political science, but it's weak.
It's like a BA in sociology.
Not much going on there.
He received a BA in political science from Fordham in 1977.
His studies included a junior year abroad learning Arabic.
Well, good for him.
And taking Middle Eastern studies.
Yes, he speaks Arabic fluently.
Multiple dialects.
Multiple dialects.
Well, he should be in the field.
Could trigger sharp opposition.
What?
He also received a master's degree in government and concentration in Middle East studies.
So he's a Middle East expert.
He's not a climate expert.
Doesn't matter.
He's just telling what's going on.
This is happening.
He wouldn't be talking about it if it wasn't already happening.
This is not just pie in the sky.
...regions of the world at the expense of other regions could trigger sharp opposition by some nations. Others might seize on SAI's benefits and back away from their commitment to carbon dioxide reductions. And as with other breakthrough technologies, global norms and standards are lacking to guide the deployment and implementation of SAI and other geoengineering initiatives.
Yeah.
Well, I think it's chemtrails, baby.
It's all that's going to happen.
I've been saying for years, and here we go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You've been saying chemtrails is part of population control.
Who says it's not?
I say it's not.
Okay.
There's too much of a mixing effect.
Unless everything can be taken in parts per trillion, this can have no effect on anyone.
And you have some reason to believe any government gives two craps about their population?
I'm sorry.
I'm a little too cynical.
They wouldn't control the population.
Well, that's why you spray stuff that controls them, like bugs.
Final one.
Here she is with Judy during the Q&A. Just a little joke.
I thought it was kind of cute that he was saying this.
And what's the level of communication between your agency and Iran?
I don't communicate with Iran.
There's zero...
I do not personally have any interaction.
Not personally.
I do not have any interaction.
And here the elites...
We all know CI. The CI. We all know you're great.
You're everywhere.
You kill people in the middle of the night.
Any formal liaison relationship or engagement with Iran?
Does the agency?
The agency does not.
Okay.
I can't understand what this is talking about.
With what?
With who?
Okay.
She says, do you have any formal contact with Iran?
And he's saying, nope, nope, I do not have formal contact.
He's making a joke.
He's trying to be coy about the fact that we're spying on everybody.
I don't understand why she says Iran.
It sounded like she said Ron.
The agency does not.
No formal intelligence leads on relationship with the Iranians.
Maybe somebody out here can phrase it better.
President Assad...
But we know the Iranians very well.
Just saying.
Dick.
Just saying.
Just on Iran for a moment.
I didn't play the clip last week, I think.
Boeing sold a whole bunch of planes to Iran.
Yes.
As part of the deal.
And this is confusing to people.
How is it that we're giving, for the first time apparently in history, we are allowing sales to a nation-state that sponsors terrorism, I think is the term.
In fact, since the last show, there's been a number of discussions about Iran, and they always say the largest...
They make a point of this.
Oh, it's the largest.
The largest, the number one in sponsoring terrorism.
Yeah.
Well, here's John Kerry, and of course I had to clip out all the silences and pregnant pauses, explaining how this works.
These are a terrorist organization in another country that's being supported by Iran.
So you're absolutely, we're going to call them on it.
We're going to absolutely stay focused on that.
We're going to shame you.
We're going to call you out.
Shame, shame, shame, shame.
But at the same time, we're trying to move the process thoughtfully, And doing business is one of the best ways to create interests and a vested purpose, if you will, in furthering transformation.
It's complex, folks.
It's complex!
This is for the elites to do, folks.
Folks.
Just because you don't understand doesn't mean we're not doing the right thing, folks.
You know, purpose, if you will, in furthering transformation.
Now, it's complex, folks.
Not every...
Hold on for a second.
You know, there's so much...
Obama does this, too.
But it's part of the milieu, again, with his folks, adding folks.
Folks.
I think from now on, everyone out there, and you and myself, we should all...
When you hear the word folks, he's actually saying idiots.
Idiots.
This is kind of like the Mr.
Robot, where every time he sees this E-Corp, he sees it as the evil corporation.
He just sees it everywhere, evil corporation.
So from now on, when you hear folks just think, dummy, stupid, cannon fodder, grass eater.
So we're doing this, folks.
And when Obama says, well, the folks out there, well, the idiots out there is what he's saying.
Yeah, I think you're right.
It's obvious.
Transformation.
Now, it's complex.
And I love the transformation.
Transformation.
Transformation.
Now, it's complex, folks.
Not every, I mean, issues in foreign policy don't always, if they lend themselves to, you know, just right and wrong, black and white, simple line, you draw it.
You're often wrong.
The distinction between the planes and the other things is, I think, trying to draw a line that threads a needle.
It's a very difficult needle to thread, but very important in order to have a transformation that doesn't send you down the road to a needless confrontation or to misunderstanding or to lost opportunity.
You're telling me you're going to fit that head through the eye of the needle?
I don't think so.
Thread the needle.
Do people really buy this?
I guess they do.
I don't know what to say about that.
Thread the needle.
Thread the needle.
He said nothing, by the way.
I'll give you a minus one for that clip.
There was nothing he didn't say shit.
No, it was only about...
Okay, you give me a minus one, but the thing that was interesting was he said it's complicated, folks.
That was the whole reason for the clip.
Well, that was worth the trip, I'd say.
I'll reverse and give you a plus one on the minus one so you're back to neutral.
Okay, then I'll continue.
But I will remind you and people listening to the show that you promised, I don't know, about a year ago that you would never, because of one incident that we had on the show.
Well, I'm lying because I'm going to do another one for you.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I'm going to do another one.
From the same speech, it's short, short, but then I have a counter clip to that.
It's a package.
So what was really interesting in light of the Ataturk airport attack, which we should probably talk about after the break, is that it was categorized By many in the administration, as desperation, you see.
Because we're hammering, we're slamming, we're obliterating, we're decimating ISIL. So they're so desperate, they're blowing stuff up.
It has been more than one year since Daesh has actually launched a full-scale military offensive.
And that's because our coalition is moving forward relentlessly on every front.
Now, yes, you can bomb an airport.
You can blow yourself up.
Yeah.
That's the tragedy.
Yeah.
Dash and others like it know that we have to get it right 24-7, 365.
They have to get it right for 10 minutes or an hour.
So it's a very different scale.
And if you're desperate and if you know you're losing.
Desperate.
You're losing.
You know you want to give up your life.
Then obviously you can do some harm.
Yeah, obviously.
Let me be blunt.
Blunt, please.
Taking out Daesh is only one part of this struggle.
We have to, as a nation, and particularly a Congress and an executive, come together to engage in a far more comprehensive effort against the forces that make terrorism a global, not just a regional threat.
And this is, and I want to play a counter to this.
I'll play the counter first, and then I'll tell you what I think about what he just said.
Because he said right there, we need to work with Congress.
What he's calling for is for an extended or new authorization for use of military force, or God forbid, we could actually have Congress say, okay, go to war with ISIS, ISIL, IS, Daesh, whatever you want it to be.
It's because, according to John Kerry, they're desperate and they're on the run.
Let's go to Mike McCall, who is on the Oversight Committee for Homeland Security.
I'd like to know if you feel like the Secretary of State that ISIS is desperate and they're losing.
That's why they're doing things like this.
You know, they've said they're on the run for many years.
You know, they're not, Brian.
That's a fact of the matter.
I think the air strikes.
I have ramped up external operations, which is what you're seeing now, both in Turkey and you saw them in Europe.
You're seeing them in the United States.
This is an unprecedented pace of terror in modern times.
So to say they're on the run is absolutely, defies reality.
I was just in Cairo.
In Egypt and up in the Sinai province.
Buying some rugs.
ISIS is very heavy.
Tunisia, Libya.
They are expanding beyond the caliphate now into northern Africa.
So they are not on the run.
They're on the rise.
Well, gee, that doesn't quite corroborate.
And this is, I believe, and remember, Turkey is a NATO member.
Article 5.
And this is a ramp-up.
We hear Kerry saying, we need Congress to help us out.
We have no claim for the airport, the Ataturk airport attack.
We have no claim from ISIS. But it has all the halls of ISIS. All the hallmarks of ISIS. Gee, this is what ISIS does.
All the hallmarks of ISIS. No.
Turkey is funding ISIS. Turkey sends weapons to ISIS. This was obviously PKK, which everyone, oh no, no, it wasn't PKK, they only attack military targets, bullcrap.
But whether it was a false flag or not, I don't care.
The result is we're going to see, maybe this week even, depending on what else pops up in the news, we're going to see a United Nations NATO initiative saying, hey, wait a minute, we have ISIS now attacking one of our nation, another one of our member states.
We have to invoke Article 5 and we have to get some new stuff going in Congress.
I'm not completely a subscriber to this thesis.
Okay.
I don't see any reason why it can't be ISIS because I know that the Turks have stopped ISIS Or disallowed a lot of the stuff they used to do for ISIS. And now they're apparently, especially a recent bombing coordinated by both the Americans and the Turks may have put ISIS in a conflict situation with Turkey.
And so I'm not completely convinced that this is a PKK thing.
I know that they did go out of their way to, I mean, the Americans in analysis went out of their way to say it's ISIS, ISIS, ISIS. But the problem, of course, is that neither PKK or ISIS have actually come out and said anything.
At least not that I know of.
Which would say maybe it was, look, we know if it's ISIS, Rita Katz would have the info.
Boom!
Like, hey, we have a video.
We found something on it.
They take a while to produce these things.
They're very slow.
No, but usually it's like we found a link on a jihadist website and they don't even provide the link.
Just here's the text.
So I'm very, very skeptical.
Well, let's play a couple of the clips I have collected on this airport thing since you went over to the airport somehow.
I don't know how you even transitioned.
I transitioned from Cary into Turkey.
I'm good.
Yeah, you're great, folks.
Thanks.
So let's start with the backgrounder.
I'm sorry, the background of that is...
Backgrounder.
And a concern here in the U.S. You think it's absolutely time to do something?
They've achieved success, they've achieved what they wanted, max number of casualties, world detention, and an economic impact on airports, and that's their goal.
There have been nearly 60 airport attacks in just the past year, most in Europe, Africa, and Asia.
Not one in North America.
But some security experts do worry about U.S. airports.
We've built up checkpoints.
Okay, hold on.
You can stop the rest of it.
I hear where you're going.
Of course.
Now, of course, they make the point that there's never been an attack in an American airport, and they make the point kind of in the face of an attack in an American airport.
If you remember from two or three years ago, the Los Angeles airport was attacked by a bunch of maniacs.
One guy.
One guy.
Not a bunch of maniacs.
One guy.
Yeah, it was one guy.
But, you know, only one guy attacked the Orlando thing, and that was, like, considered a horrible event.
I got a clip about that later that's very funny.
But if we're going to go with the thesis that no airport's ever been attacked under any circumstances, which is what they kind of said there...
Why are we worried about any of this?
And even the one guy was pretty much taken care of by the local guys, the security guys.
And we don't even know if that wasn't just a complete exercise, which every indication was that it was an exercise.
So why is everyone all going crazy?
Because when you have a scared population known as folks, you can control them easily.
Peter King came on one of the shows with Megan, I think.
And he introduced this character, this guy Flynn, who's a lieutenant general, retired.
Apparently, he ran the DEA for a while.
I don't remember him.
And he came, he's got a book out.
And of course, his main thesis, this Flynn guy, is that all we have to do is discredit ISIS. Discredit them.
Shame them.
That's all we have.
Exactly.
Shame them.
We should call them racists and xenophobes.
That'll work.
But let's listen.
I think I have the clip of Peter King Prelude.
Yeah, I got it.
Bomb detection dogs, also license plate readers, all of that, all the technology and moving out the perimeter if we have to.
But again, Megan, if someone arrives at the airport and they have explosives or they have an AR-15 or an AK-47, odds are they're going to succeed.
If they go to a subway station or a shopping center, they're going to succeed.
The only way that we have a real hope of stopping them is to stop it before it starts, and that requires surveillance.
And I know the Obama people call that snooping and spy.
The reality is, that's what we have to do.
There's not support for that.
Or for Senator John McCain's push to expand the capabilities of the feds to look at people, suspected people's Facebook accounts and Twitter accounts.
Things that wouldn't necessarily be made public.
They do that now?
Who is she kidding?
I don't know.
She's saying that, oh, you know, they could just look at Facebook accounts.
They won't even do that.
They do that.
Are you kidding me?
Is she making the claim, and Peter King's the two of them, they're making the claim that there's all this stuff going on on Facebook and Twitter, and because Obama is so much against all this, since when, so much against all this that they don't even do these simple things that wouldn't even hurt anybody.
Well...
What is the point of this messaging?
It's bullcrap.
Yeah.
I agree.
Let's listen to the intro to Flynn.
...made public...
Yeah, and again, we are in time of war, and for instance, I believe that if that had been done with the shooter in Orlando, we could have found out a lot more about him beforehand.
Right now, we're still treating, 15 years later, too many of these cases as ordinary law enforcement cases.
I know you have General Flynn coming on.
He's a real advocate for being aggressive and going forward.
Ah, General Flynn.
Yes, I know who he is.
He is deemed by our guys as a really good guy.
A good guy, Flynn.
I'm just saying, our guys, our military guys, specifically Agent Orange says Flynn's a good guy.
Years later, too many of these cases are ordinary law enforcement cases.
I know you have General Flynn coming on.
He's a real advocate for being aggressive and going forward in this.
We have to.
This is not like going after a burglar or even going after a bank robber or a murderer.
We're talking about going after an army that wants to kill us and has troops right here in our country, and they're being investigated by the FBI. But again, we can't treat it as law enforcement.
We have to be preemptive and go out and stop them and get them.
Congressman, thank you, sir.
We've got to stop them.
Okay, well, since everyone's all high on Flynn, who seems like a guy out of a job, if you ask me, with a book out, I want to play a couple of clips.
He's going to talk about ISIS here.
This is Flynn and his fantastic analysis, and he's the one on the show.
I'm not saying he's not a great guy, but he's not showing well.
He's the one who says, we just discredit ISIS and we got it made.
That's all we need to do.
But let's listen to this.
This is kind of an Ask Adam sketch.
Okay.
So I got ISIS part one.
It's ISIS, Flynn, something like that.
How's it like?
Yeah, the ISIS and the counterattack one.
Yes.
I want you to play this.
Okay.
That, you know, internationally, we have not really stated what our real strategy is as America.
But wait, but let me ask you about that, because the Obama administration has made progress in Iraq.
We've taken back cities.
They no longer control Fallujah.
They're on their heels.
Now, Mosul's basically what they have.
So here's how people have to look at this.
We have a very, very tactical strategy, meaning it's very narrow, it's very sort of short-term.
And we go after, we do these little attacks in Iraq, in Fallujah, in Raqqa, you know, in Ramadi, in all these little places.
ISIS, they actually counterattack.
Ask Adam, ask Adam, yeah.
All right, I'm ready.
All right, they counterattack.
What's their methodology?
Where do they counterattack?
counterattack by calling them folks Well, that's one possibility.
But let's go back.
That clip to talk about what we do.
We target our things.
We're very specific.
We do surgical stuff.
And every time we do that, ISIS counterattacks.
And let's play this clip out.
You know, in Ramadi and all these little places, ISIS, they actually counterattack in San Bernardino, in Orlando.
Oh!
Whoa!
Okay.
So every time we attack them, they counterattack in Orlando.
Only in Orlando?
Well, wherever else.
I think we should give Orlando to ISIS. Have at it.
Now, also play Flynn talking about Orlando, and I have to preface this.
Maybe you should cue up that clip, and I think it's called a Davis, I think it's David Weiss.
You have to look it up in your little database there.
It's the one with all the shooting that took place by the cops.
But first play Flynn on Orlando.
Megan, thank you.
Well, our next guest spent more than three decades in the military, including more than ten years doing intelligence work, eventually becoming the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, which is the sister to the CIA. General Michael Flynn is tonight asking why the Obama administration was so quick to move on from Orlando, the worst attack on U.S. soil since 9-11, less than three weeks after it happened.
General Michael Flynn joins me now.
He's also the author of the new book, The Field of Fight, How We Can Win the Global War Against Radical Islam and Its Allies.
General, good to see you.
Thanks for having me.
Why do you think that is?
No one's talking about Orlando anymore.
Yeah, I tell you, so after the terrorist attack, the most recent terrorist attack in Turkey, You know, I'm paying very close attention to this entire problem that we're facing, and all of a sudden, Orlando just drops off the screen.
We barely, if anybody's even talking about San Bernardino, I feel bad.
I bet you those people that lost loved ones, no one's even talking to them anymore.
So, I mean, we have a problem, as Congressman King just pointed out, we have a problem right here in our homeland.
Turkey is another example of this radical ideology that we are facing and we must discredit this ideology.
We can build all sorts of fences and security systems that we want but until we really go after the ideology which is this radical Islamist ideology, Megan, until we decide to do that All the tactics in the world, all the little things that we do around airports, that just actually increases the cost, and that is to the advantage of our enemy.
It just, it doesn't feel like it doesn't.
I mean, you take off your shoes in the air, but it doesn't feel like it's doing anything other than this banal comfort check.
No, and actually, every time that they do one of these things, what it does is it increases the cost for our own security.
Okay, you can stop it.
Now, what clip did you want me to play?
Look for the, here, can you do a keyword search?
or something like the word sweet spot.
This is the cops in Orlando.
Right.
Here we go.
Get ready.
Now, this is 5.15 a.m.
Is that what the timing of this was?
Yeah, that's when the SWAT team shows up.
No, it's not when the SWAT team shows up.
It's when they start coming out the hole in the wall.
That's when that happens.
Well, they just punched the hole in the wall.
You just heard that bang.
I bet you...
That was them shooting into the building.
I bet you that somebody can get a waveform of that, and you could probably count.
You'd get pretty close to a count.
Now, here's the thing.
This guy, Flynn, is bitching about the fact that we're not talking about this anymore.
I believe, and I've always thought this, and I thought it was they may have killed a number of people, the police, but the...
Clip, you played in the last show with Napolitano saying that there's nobody shot until this happened.
Which is exactly what the FBI report said.
And I'm thinking, the reason that there's all this chatter that Flynn, who apparently has no perspective on anything, Flynn, sorry to all of our military guys, Flynn, unaware of any of this information, Bitching about the fact that we're not talking about Orlando anymore because there was an ISIS, some sort of an ISIS thing, which it wasn't.
Which he said it was.
Which he said it was.
And now we're...
Not talking about it, perhaps for the following reason.
In the hospital, every time they pull out a bullet from one of these dead guys, because they're doing that, they say, oh my god, that's a police bullet.
Oops.
Oops.
There's another police bullet.
Oops.
Oh shit, there's another police bullet.
Oops.
They're pulling police bullets out of people.
Nobody's talking about it.
They don't want to talk about it, and they're not going to talk about it.
Ever.
You might as well kiss this whole thing.
Ever.
It's done.
We got guys who I'm in communication with who have friends in ED, as it's called, emergency department, so in what we would call ER, emergency room, and he says no one's talking.
That's exactly what you said.
No one's talking about it.
Yeah, so there's Flynn with his fantastic analysis right before us.
The guy is not high on my list.
I'm not saying that he's smart.
I'm just saying people like him.
Well, he's probably a likable guy.
I'd probably have a beer with him.
I'd probably have a beer with him before Clapper.
I'd have a beer with you any day, John.
Actually, wait.
I think Comey may be top of the list for beer.
Oh, I'd love to have a beer with Comey, right?
I bet he's right.
Did you say right?
Did you just throw a right out there?
Wow.
Hello.
Get off Facebook.
I'd have a beer with Comey, right?
With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C with a C stands for co-host of the award-winning No Agenda Show podcast, Dvorak.
Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
Also in the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, subs in the water, and feet in the air and all the dames and knights out there.
And in the morning to, well, I have to thank two artists.
One, I made a mistake and said Mark G. had done the artwork for 837.
That was CZM137 who had done that.
My apologies.
But, or 836 actually, 837 was indeed again by Mark G., We have to say something here.
We have to open this up to get his credit.
I don't remember who it was.
We were talking about picking the artwork.
Adam and I both thought that the funniest piece was the Hogan's Heroes piece.
Oh, this is for Open the Channel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because it actually literally made both of us laugh when we saw it.
And I said, we're too old and we're too American for this to matter to many other people.
I mean, even this...
Hogan!
I don't think a lot of people know that this comes from Hogan's Heroes with Schultz going, Hogan!
No, no.
No, it was never Schultz.
It was always Klink.
Oh, Klink.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, Klink.
Yeah, Klink would be shaking his fist and yell, Hogan.
Are you sure?
Mandela effect!
It was never Schultz.
Schultz's thing was, I see nothing, I know nothing.
It was always this, you know, he was...
And he would say, holy, but not with that screaming voice.
That was Klink.
And I'm not absolutely sure Klink actually said that specifically just as a standalone in the show.
I think it was from some mockery either in The Simpsons or someplace else.
Oh, that could be that Mandela effect.
There you go.
It's not a Mandela effect.
A Mandela effect, which I ended up going deeply into.
Oh, no.
Yeah, just to figure out what...
After you excoriated me for even bringing it up.
Oh, I remember there was a big island off the coast of Australia.
She's selling for it.
And it's gone!
And no one can remember the name of it.
Yeah, New Zealand, I think, was the name of the big island.
No, it was on the other side.
And then they showed some globe from an old movie.
See, the thing is, if the Mandela effect was, if this thing was true, that there's somebody's rewriting history because of the Hadron Collider.
Yeah, that's a big part of it.
Oh, you did go deep, didn't you?
We went through the whole thing.
And now John C. Dvorak.
And all the Christian videos pushing this thing.
It's like somebody's rewriting history, but they're not quite getting everything out of the way.
People still have vague memories, but they don't know what those memories stem from.
I think it was Tasmania.
It's the stupidest exercise in mass hypnosis that I've ever seen.
Now, one guy, I kind of bought it.
He says, this whole Mandela effect thing is a psyops to see how stupid the public is and how much they can be manipulated.
I'm down with that.
I mean, I'll go with that.
I was thinking that's probably the case.
I could buy into that.
It has some validity to me.
It's an experiment.
Anyway, you wanted to say something about the art that we laughed out loud, but we just felt it wasn't international enough.
Well, actually, I thought that that was an element, but I thought it was because it's so dated.
It's from the 60s.
I mean, I'm not sure how many people would actually recognize those two characters.
I mean, it's like people who are comics and mimics, they like to do impressions, and they still do Jimmy Stewart.
Yeah.
Yeah, hello Martin Short.
Martin Short.
I like that show, Maya and Marty, because it's a Lorne Michael show, so they get all the great Saturday Night Live people on.
But Martin Short, everything he says is really dated.
All his jokes are dated.
I mean, when Richard Simmons is the punchline to a joke, you've got to work on your material.
I mean, yes, when's the last time anyone's seen Richard Simmons?
You know, the word is he's transgender to a woman.
Oh, well, just saying.
Wouldn't surprise me.
But anyway, let's get cracking.
Let's get cracking.
A Dame Astrid client, is she at the top of the list?
Yes, so she becomes our automatic executive producer today since she had an associate donation.
That's interesting because she just missed the cutoff for the Thursday show, sent a note in which I have to read, and then she sent, I'll explain it, but anyway, she came in with $272.72 and she is the Viscountess of Tokyo, I believe.
Yep.
No, is she Baroness at this point?
Well, you read the note.
Let me read the note.
Let me get the note.
Okay, so she came in like 10 minutes after the cutoff.
Oh, she's the Duchess of Japan, John.
The Duchess.
Oh, she's the Duchess.
That's right.
Okay, she's way up there.
And she says another note.
Couldn't you tell by her sash?
It was so obvious.
She says, I screwed up.
You don't have to read the note.
In fact, I'd rather not read the note.
And I said, no, I want to read the note.
I think it's a funny note.
It's a good note.
And she says, oh, okay.
So she wasn't hard to convince.
And here's the note.
She's a pushover.
It's a pushover.
In anticipation of the Brexit analysis.
It's over.
We did that.
Yeah.
Born and raised in a multicultural environment in the early 1960s, I used to proudly call myself European.
I still stand for breaking down all cultural barriers, always.
Good.
Back then there were French francs, Italian lira, and Dutch shillings.
Gilders.
She says shillings.
Shillings.
Gilders.
Yes, Gilders.
So much for breaking down all the cultural barriers.
And, she says, and healthy competition.
I believe that much more can be achieved when directly dealing with each other, when each can negotiate their own appropriate terms rather than having to blindly obey to a one-size-fits-all common denominator dictated by an unelected somebody no one even knows, trusts, or believes in.
Okay.
I'm all on board with that.
She says, though it might not come easy for quite some time, people will actually have to start using their brain again.
I believe the Brexit is a first step in the right direction to much more meaningful success and prosperity.
Maybe I am an optimistic daydreaming anarchist, but definitely not a xenophobe.
Over to you, John and Adam, from the future.
And so that's her.
I'm going to give her a big karma.
Thank you so much.
You've got karma.
Duchess of Tokyo.
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I'm sorry.
Duchess of Tokyo.
She'll be the executive producer for the show.
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I recently went on a trip to Myrtle Beach in South Carolina with the family.
While there, we decided to check out Medieval Times, which is one of those clubs you go to and you get to watch jousting.
Given the outrageous pricing, I was expecting to be treated like a king.
We get there, go through some insane line, get to our table and start looking around and thinking, where's the mutton?
Where can I get some mead?
In the mead!
Then it dawned on me these treats are only available from the No Agenda Roundtable.
That's correct.
What the fuck was I expecting?
So the lesson is, if you want mutton and mead, you ain't going to find it at medieval times.
Which, by the way, now that he mentions it...
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That's followed by Sir Tim Anonymous.
Parts Unknown 23456.
He comes in and he actually does the anonymity trick the best.
Anyone who's really paranoid...
It's kind of discouraged, but if you're paranoid about being associated with the show, or you're swindling somebody to send us money, and you want to be anonymous for sure, what you do is you mail a check to the post office box, which is 339, box 339, El Cerrito, California, 94530, and And on the check, you can send a note and have us read it anonymously or not.
But you take one of those little post-it note things and you put it right on top of the check, over your own name usually, and say anonymous on top of it.
And it's pretty hard to miss.
And that's what he does every time.
Matt Hamilton from El Cerrito, California is next, and he drops down to 2-12-30, and he sent a nice little note in, and he's like Coble.
I want to make sure the two of these guys meet, because he sounds like an analog of Sir Coble out there in Tennessee.
In fact, if Coble comes back out here, which he does quite often, these guys should get together for sure.
Oh, cool.
I mean, he's one of those guys.
He does, what do you call it, penetration testing.
Yeah, I'm trying that tonight.
So he...
Thank you.
So he does send a nice card.
It says, May, thanks to you.
And this is printed.
He's crossed out something and puts in B-P-I-T-U. I don't know what my dad and I would do without the show, he says on the card.
But he sent a note in, too.
It's two notes, actually.
One not to be read on the air.
And one is, I can go no longer without giving value for value.
The last few shows have been fantastic.
I'd like to request a jobs karma to spread the love as my new job is fantastic.
I'd like my father to match this amount.
Apparently dad listens but doesn't douchebag him though.
And request the funds be pooled in an aid for John's spreadsheet problem.
It's a new monitor.
Do you want to explain the problem?
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I'm doing fine today.
Okay, great.
Thank you for the great shows, friends.
All right.
And he wants a jobs, Karma?
Yeah.
Jobs, jobs, jobs.
It's not the one I wanted.
How did that go wrong?
I like that one.
Even though it's not quite as excitable as the...
It's not quite the one I wanted.
Let me see.
It's the one he wants, the one the back and forth?
Yeah, hold on.
It's the...
Oh, here it is.
Got it.
Jobs.
Jobs.
And jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
In the morning.
All right, we got it.
Thank you.
John Thornton in Monrovia, California.
Sending you some mail regarding best news and political podcast, Johnny O.T. I don't see.
I looked.
I don't have anything from him.
Let me take a look.
John Thornton.
Just Thornton?
T-H-O-R. Okay.
You know, I... Okay.
T-H-O-R. Thornton.
I don't have anything.
I have no idea where they came from.
Let's see.
Got a Thornton here.
We've got time.
Dale Thornton.
It's not Dale, though.
No, I have Dale, too.
I don't know.
I don't know what happened.
Well, he'll have to write back.
Yeah.
We'll read it next time.
We do that.
And then we have...
What's coming up next on the thing?
Sir Rod Adams.
Oh, yeah.
Sir Rod.
This is not the correct note.
I have the correct note here.
This is a previous note.
Now, of course, Sir Rod had an issue with something you said.
You countered him.
I think we're okay.
Everyone's cool.
He got on my case again.
On Twitter.
Take it to the Twitters.
I don't know why anyone even bothers to do this with people that have a big bullhorn.
This show, my Twitter followers, I'm just noisier.
And so what he said, somebody said, I agree with you.
These guys are a-holes.
And I said, yes.
I said, yeah, you're right, sailor.
Thanks for the backup.
And then he says, I don't like being called a sailor.
This is another guy.
He says, I don't like being called a sailor.
And then I put the word swabby in.
And so...
Why didn't you just say Popeye?
Shut up, Popeye!
I could have done that.
And I'm being lighthearted with this guy.
I said, oh, the guy never said anything, but Rod jumps in again.
We find that offensive.
The principled professionalism of the neighbor...
He goes on and on with this...
I said, this is what my dad, World War II veteran, used to use.
This is the term he used.
He was the chief petty officer.
I'm sorry that your principled, you know, professional class is offended.
You're offended, apparently.
Offended by this word.
And, oh my God, I'm offended.
Oh, I'm being bullied.
I'll tell you, John.
I'll tell you.
So, Rod, just stop goading me.
Again, they're filters.
The Navy has been...
They're troubled.
Now, we have to mention Rod Adams actually comes in twice.
He's got the $200 here.
And then at the bottom, he's at $49.99, which is normally anonymous.
And he says, can you kick in the penny?
So he gets into the $200, but he's already in the $200.
So I'm not sure.
Well, here's his note.
Thanks for the apology.
Of course, I'm not sure that it will have happened before getting to this point in the donation segment.
I'm just assuming that we all know what happens when you assume nothing.
No idea what he's saying there.
Anyways, he says with an S, keep up the good work.
I never let a single flog in the way of enjoying an outstanding product.
Sir Atomic Rod Adams.
P.S. I think this might put me over the barren line, but I'm a terrible bookkeeper.
And he says, I forgot to request my title be upgraded to Baron of the Blue Ridge.
I've attached a photo from the deck of our castle, which is beautiful.
And of course, you said, hey, as a resident expert in all things atomic, you get the benefit of the doubt.
Upgraded to Baron.
And we thank him for being...
Yeah, he's like on the staff.
He's like on the staff.
He's a staffer.
He's a member of the No Agenda staff.
He's a staffer.
He's a staffer, man, I tell you.
He's a staffer.
And I'm going to have a big dose of karma for him.
And all the other sailors!
You've got karma.
Woo!
Alrighty.
I just don't see the Navy being so hypersensitive.
Jeez.
You know, you don't know how Rod woke up this morning.
You're not a mind reader!
No, this is true.
People have issues.
That is, well, you've pointed out a couple of times that I've been grouchy on this show.
Sure, me too.
It's never really happened, but I know that you're hypersensitive to such things.
Yeah, sure.
It must be the Mandela effect.
Anyway, that's our group of producers and executive producers.
And it's a funny group today because it's all $200 people.
And we want to remind you, we do have another show coming up shortly.
And it's Sunday and there'll be a show of 839.
And we remind you, devork.org slash NA to kind of help us...
Get into July, and the 4th of July is on Monday, so that means this is a holiday weekend.
No one will be listening to the show on Sunday.
No.
They might listen later.
We'll do the show.
We're going to do the show.
We're going to work on the holiday.
Yeah, so it's what we do.
Show business.
Yeah.
Show business, baby.
We gotta be working on holidays.
What?
Quit show business?
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Dvorak.org slash NA. Well, don't you dare quit show business.
You can be out there participating by propagating the formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Water. Water. Can fail. Shut up. Can fail. Shut up. Can fail.
Okie dokie.
Very nice.
Perhaps we should just briefly go to Brexit, just because there's fallout.
I got a lot of compliments.
People liked very much what we did.
Some people said, I've got to go back and listen to it again.
It was just so much information you gave.
Oh, is that right?
Yeah, which I thought was nice.
Did you get the Farage clip?
Yes, I did.
Now, did you get the beginning of it?
Here's what I have.
Now, I know...
I know that virtually none of you have ever done a proper job in your lives.
This clip?
Oh.
This clip?
Yeah, that's the clip, but that's deep into the clip.
You know, this is my fault.
I should have clipped it.
If you catch the whole clip, which I believe is on his website.
Yeah, but I've heard the whole clip, but I felt it was, you know, we're now four to, you know, what, a week later.
Well, the reason I like the whole clip is because right, and the only reason, just to make a point, is Right at the beginning, I'll just explain it.
We don't have to play it because I don't have it.
Okay.
But right at the beginning, he is rudely and soundly booed.
Before he even gets to start to talk.
Oh, no, I don't have that.
You're right.
And whoever's the...
Schultz.
Schultz is running the thing.
And he excoriates everybody.
I have that.
Well, he excoriates everybody else.
Oh.
No, he didn't do it just once.
Oh, I only have him excoriating garage.
At the beginning.
He does it at the beginning.
When he's really booed.
I mean, it's noisy.
And they're booing him.
And he actually looks a little shook up by it.
Because before, they just ignored him.
And so he looked a little shook up, and then he started his rant, and he went on and on and on, and then he goes into this thing that you're going to play, where he condemns everybody, and then he gets razzed again, this is the second time, and then Schultz comes out, and he has, Schultz is, depending on who he had translated, I thought his response was very funny, because he says, hey, you know, you guys are doing what this guy's always doing.
Here we go, here we go.
Now I know!
I know that virtually none of you have ever done a proper job in your lives, or worked, or worked in business, or worked in trade, or indeed ever created a job.
But listen.
Just listen.
Just a second.
Ladies and gentlemen, I do understand that you're getting emotional, but you're acting like UKIP normally acts in this chamber, so please...
Don't imitate them.
Mr.
Farage, however, I would say one thing to you.
The fact that you're claiming nobody has done a decent job in their life, you can't really say that.
I'm sorry.
You're quite right, Mr.
Schultz.
UKIP used to protest against the establishment, and now the establishment protests against UKIP. So something has happened here.
Yeah.
That was kind of what you were talking about.
Now...
Yeah, the rest of the speech was mostly gloating.
But he was excoriated in the British Parliament for being an a-hole.
It was pretty funny.
It wasn't worth clipping, but there was one thing I had worth clipping.
But why don't you continue on with what you have?
Yes.
So when we heard, and this was Sunday, we didn't have time to really dive into it, but I think Sunday already information came out about the meme that was launched saying, oh, people didn't even know what EU was.
It was the number one Google term.
And of course, as we found out, that there was pretty much about a thousand people who had Googled this, but it came through trends and not through, they hadn't looked at the actual numbers, just the Google trend.
CNBC, who was this?
This is, I can't remember who this was, but they mentioned it briefly, and of course the meme popped up of really, you know, who was to blame and why they're angry.
So you have people who are angry, but anger's not a strategy.
There was only about a thousand people.
It's a thousand people, but if you, who Googled it, maybe most people who made it to the vote don't even know what Google is, because it's a generational issue.
But I think that we need to look at, my point is, that there is pain in the world if people don't have an answer.
It's generational, because, you know, old people don't understand the internet.
It's just old people.
The stupid, stupid old people.
Yeah, a little ageism there.
The ageism is rampant.
It's rife.
It's disgusting, actually.
Christiane Anumpur, and I want to remind you of what she said.
We played this clip.
This was just after Brexit was announced.
Here's what she said.
A lot of these Leave movements are led by the hard-right, very, very xenophobic, anti-immigrant, very populist, nationalist, white identity politics.
So pretty much a bunch of a-hole racists is pretty much what she said.
Old a-hole white racists.
So she gets on the stick with Daniel Hanna.
Now, he's the member of European Parliament.
He was one of the big spokesholes for the Leave campaign.
And, I mean, you can tell me whenever you want to stop it.
It was just fascinating to listen to this argument.
And she is so convinced of what she just said here that she will not let up with this guy.
I'm hearing, you know, a very much softer, gentler version of what you proposed during the campaign.
Temper some of the stuff.
Like what?
Like immigration?
Because you yourself have sort of stepped back.
So has Boris Johnson.
What have I stepped back from?
You have said that...
Yes.
Let me get my...
Yes, I've said that we want control back rather than...
No, no, you have said that maybe we're not.
Yes, exactly.
And when did I ever say the opposite?
When did I ever not say that?
Listen, you've been through all of this on other channels.
The reason people voted, the majority of them, and I can play you what they've said, is to stop immigration into this country.
You just accused me of doing a U-turn.
No, backtracking.
Okay, you've accused me of backtracking.
When have I ever said anything different?
You have said, and your Leave campaign, and you are the Leave spokesman of the Leave campaign, that immigration and the free flow of movement was the sine qua non.
I've never, ever said that.
I've written a book called Why Vote Leave, setting up what would happen.
Would you agree that the Leave campaign's main objective, in terms of sovereignty, was to stop the free Leave movement?
Before I ask that, will you please retract your idea that I've backed up?
She is crazy!
Isn't she an interviewer?
Isn't she a journalist?
All she's doing is saying, you lie, you're wrong, you say...
How?
Let the guy talk!
You know, she...
I think...
It's not unprecedented to be this style of interview.
This is the way, it's very unusual for the American audience, but this is kind of what they do on Newsweek or whatever, Newsnight Week.
What's that show on the BBC? Newswatch.
Newswatch.
No, it's not Newswatch.
Question Time?
No, it's Newsnight.
Newsnight, okay.
Yeah, Newsnight is kind of the 60 minutes in a way of the BBC. They run it on Fridays in America, BBC America, and you can hear on most PBS stations.
And they have that interview style.
Well, this isn't, she's not even interviewing.
Jeremy, what's his name?
He's on there and he's usually yelling at the person and they won't let him change their minds.
That's not, I don't think it's unusual, but she's a dick.
Are you then saying that this immigration is going to be much lighter than you all promised?
I have never, ever made any commitment on numbers, ever, on the country.
Not numbers, just on facts, no free movement of labour.
What we say is we would take back control.
Now, what that means is that a foreign court should no longer get to determine who can reside in this country, who can enter this country, but that should be a question for parliamentary sovereignty.
We are clear about that.
So you're saying that parliamentary sovereignty could quite easily allow the same number of people to keep coming in?
That would be a decision for Parliament.
That's how democracy works.
You've got to be kidding me.
This whole thing was run on...
Can I pay for you?
You guys have been shouting racist so long you weren't listening to what we were actually saying.
Did I say that?
You retract that right now.
Did I say that?
Yeah, you pretty much said that.
Did I say that?
Yes.
Did I say that?
You have accused me of backtracking.
And I want you to give me...
We've always...
Hold on.
Yes.
Yes, you said it!
A lot of these Leave movements are led by the hard right, very, very xenophobic, anti-immigrant, very populist, nationalist, white identity politics.
And the reason is because this has to be the narrative.
It must be the narrative because we can connect this horrible decision...
To Donald Trump.
And that is exactly what Van Jones did.
Now, Van Jones, I did not see him on CNN after Brexit.
Did you see him anywhere?
No, I didn't.
So, he was maybe because it's not his wheelhouse?
I don't know.
I'm not quite sure what his wheelhouse is.
He was one of the guys looking it up on Google.
That he did a Facebook Live video post that I stumbled upon right after.
Maybe it was on the No Agenda Facebag group.
I just have to play.
Because you could listen to Christiane Anandpour forever.
It just goes on for five minutes.
Van Jones, he did ten minutes.
I chopped it down to a couple minutes.
But you'll get the idea.
Because this is the way it's being used in the United States press.
What a mistake.
Polls were wrong.
Old white people, racists, win when you're asleep.
I know you don't want to hear this, but tonight, while we're all just Netflixing and chilling out, not paying attention to anything, the UK just voted to...
Leave the European Union.
So-called Brexit.
Britain exit.
Brexit.
Thanks for that.
You haven't cared about it.
Nobody cares about it.
Dad, you don't listen to the No Agenda show.
It's summertime.
We're all happy.
This is the end of the world.
And that's just the beginning of his little rant.
As we know...
Stop, stop.
Uh...
I think the pre-definition of the audience, as nobody knows about it, nobody cares about it, nobody, you know, we're having fun in the summertime, in the case of who he's talking to, definitely not no agenda listeners.
Folks.
Folks.
Yes, exactly.
Folks.
Idiots.
Yeah.
So he's predefining these people as idiots.
They don't know anything about this, but he's going to tell them about it.
And let's start with the premise that it's the end of the world and so he can scare you to death is the way the Democrats like to do.
This is absolutely, I didn't hear any more of it.
I mean, we want to hear the rest of it, but, or some of it.
But right now I can already tell this guy is an a-hole.
Yeah, disdain for people.
You, American people, who I speak to, are stupid because you're only doing Netflix and chill.
There's an element to that, sure.
We have stupid people everywhere, but this is really coming from up high.
It's just summertime.
We're all happy.
This is the end of the world as we know it.
Okay?
Okay.
Please take this seriously.
What happened?
What happened?
What happened was you have this complete right-wing, crazy, racist, xenophobic horror show that breaks out in the UK. They don't want no immigrants.
I love his double negatives.
These are really good.
They don't want no immigrants.
Hey, Van Jones, go back to school.
He does a triple negative at a certain point.
In the UK, they don't want no immigrants.
Does that sound familiar?
They don't want multiculturalism.
Does that sound familiar?
They don't want to have nothing to do with nobody, period, except for people who look just like them, basically white folks in Britain.
They say they can't even deal with white folks in Europe.
They just want to be on their own.
So everybody goes, no way.
Who cares?
These people are crazy.
If you vote for Brexit, if you vote to leave the European Union, you're going to destroy the economy.
You're going to be doing crazy stuff.
You're going to crash your stock market.
Does any of this sound familiar?
Hmm.
You've got a movement of crazy people.
Hmm.
that are going for power, making lunatic arguments, and then you have good, thoughtful, liberal people saying, oh, that wouldn't be prudent, that wouldn't work out, the policies seem irrational, and then all the polls the policies seem irrational, and then all the polls come out, and the polls say, hey, this thing is going to lose.
There's no way that people would do something as stupid as voting for Brexit.
Is he an economist?
Does he have...
We want to look him up on the Book of Knowledge and see what his credentials are?
He's a scrounger.
He doesn't do anything.
He's been a consultant.
He's a community organizer.
Ah, yes.
And he got kicked out of the Obama administration.
I don't remember why, though.
Why did he get kicked out?
Well, I can tell you kind of why.
Okay.
He was a racist a-hole that the right-wingers got figured out and they hounded Obama on the radio shows and everything else to get him kicked out.
He's got a grudge.
And by the way, I just had to throw this in.
The stock market went down right after Brexit, and then it went down a little bit again.
And that was like, because it was so much uncertainty, nobody figured it out, what we're supposed to do.
And so the next day, it went way up.
Then it went way up again.
And I will say that today, it's going up.
It was up some...
It's up over 200 points today.
It's almost back to the 18,000 mark.
And Soros has his money.
And Soros has his money.
Mission accomplished.
Whatever he did, he made money.
Yeah, that's how you do it.
You're short for a couple days, and you're along again, and you're right back to where you were.
That must be a killing for somebody who knew it was going to happen.
I think he bought into gold.
It was my understanding.
He liquidated everything, got into gold.
Gold was actually hanging in there.
Yeah, gold went great.
It went up $100.
And so now it's starting to drop.
Yeah, it'll drop down again.
It drops slowly.
It doesn't go down fast.
Another minute of Van?
Yeah, get back.
Nobody would do this.
And the polls are so reassuring.
And all the liberal people and the smart people come on the air.
And all these foolish people.
They're voting smart.
Smart people.
Just the smart people come on.
Liberal and smart.
Yeah.
And they come on the air because, like him, he's a smart person.
They think that they would vote.
And this will never happen.
It just happened.
Crazy hard right lunatics just led the UK off a cliff into the vast abyss of stupidity.
Wait, did he say abyss?
I think he's adding a T. No.
Yes.
Abyss.
He didn't say abyss.
He said abyss.
Hold on.
Into the vast abyss of...
Yeah, he said abyss.
Abyss.
Abyss.
Yeah, he went into the abyss.
Does he know that like over half of the Sikhs voted to get out?
Most ethnics voted to get out?
It was mostly working people.
The financial guys are the ones that were all in the stay and the Scots.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm here.
Does this guy actually know what happened?
I'm talking to you from the abyss.
The abyss.
The abyss is actually a bar in South Brooklyn.
Off a cliff into the vast abyss of stupidity and foolishness and soon-to-be economic chaos.
Chaos.
Does this sound familiar?
Hello?
Back to normal.
Well, to be fair, this was after this all happened.
And soon-to-be economic chaos.
Chaos.
Does this sound familiar?
I don't know, Van.
Tell me.
And we've got to take this seriously.
Who are incredibly uncomfortable with multiculturalism.
They're incredibly uncomfortable with immigration.
They're incredibly uncomfortable with the world changing.
And these people will go and vote in very large numbers and the pollsters miss it.
The pollsters don't get it.
The pollsters call reasonable people and ask them reasonable questions and get reasonable answers and put you to sleep.
And they tell you that Trump can't win.
And they told the people in Britain that these Brexit people couldn't win.
The sane people went to sleep, and the crazy people stood up.
Everybody that tells you that Trump can't win, you should start screaming at them.
Because all they're doing is putting our base to sleep.
All they're doing is calming people down when they should be riling people up.
And if you want to know, will this strategy work, or will it fail, look at what just happened in the UK. All right.
So that was a little excerpt from the 12 minutes he posted on the bag, on the Facebook.
It's a reasonable, I think it's a reasonable presentation for the dummies that listen to him, the folks.
Folks.
And the point, the real point is that we've got to make sure we get the numbers because Trump numbers, the most ever in the history of the Republican Party for primary voters, Are kind of frightening because, and there is an element that a lot of people say took part in during the Brexit polling, which is people, which is, you know, they didn't want to take part in the polling.
So they said, I'm voting to stay, and they voted to leave, and there's all this other thing, the buyer's remorse thing.
They're pushing it as hard as they can, trying to convince people.
They bring some stooge out.
This is why I voted to leave, but after all this happened...
Which is going to go away rather quickly once the market stabilizes, because that's what everyone's freaked out about.
They were hoping it was going to crash.
And Horowitz and I talked about this on a special edition on DHS. Yes, I heard that last time.
It was very good.
And it was like, you know, this was like, is this going to be the thing that's going to take the business?
You know, we have a lot of problems.
We've got so much debt, it's unbelievable.
But is this going to be the triggering mechanism?
And that's the question everyone was asking.
It doesn't look like it.
In fact, it doesn't look like anything.
The opposite may happen.
There is something important about what Van Jones did here, although he didn't quite put it together in the same sentence, and of course I'm going to the oracle for this, Scott Adams, who posted on his blog in his never-ending hypnosis persuasion technique analysis of Donald Trump,
he said, OMG! We're good to go.
But by combining crazy, when you say a crazy racist, he says that is a very, very powerful persuasion tool, and it almost cannot be combated by Trump unless he continuously talks about how he loves all children of all colors of the rainbow.
And I think he has a good point.
Crazy racist.
Yeah, I read this too.
And I think there's some weak spots in his argument.
And I think a lot of times he's being kind of purposely combative.
Well, he's probably executing persuasion techniques on us.
There's a couple of things in there that I think, first of all, that the Clinton campaign didn't or didn't, they stumbled on this, which is what he says may have happened.
Thus, what's going to happen is since they stumbled on it, and since they don't believe any of the bull crap about persuasion, because they want to do things the old-fashioned way, it's an old-fashioned group, and they're going to do things the old-fashioned way, like the way you just heard Van Jones do it.
They're going to revert, so that thing is not going to stick, because they won't push it enough, as opposed to the crooked Hillary, which Trump sticks with.
Trump is the guy who knows how to do this, and I think the original thesis of Adams was correct, and I think it remains correct.
I just don't think that Hillary folks will stick with this meme.
Are you calling them stupid?
By saying folks?
They're folks.
They're smart.
They're smart liberals.
They're not folks.
So I think Adams is wrong.
And Trump is trying to switch around a little bit.
I'm not liking the new Trump that much.
He's not that interesting.
He's not that good for the show.
Let's play this.
This is Trump.
He's on...
Hannity.
Oh, no, O'Reilly.
Is he there?
O'Reilly, I think.
It's O'Reilly.
And this one comment just was like, okay, play this little clip.
Pretty good chance of winning.
I don't like to be giving out all this information.
I'd like to just go and do the job.
If you look at General Patton, he wasn't one to give out information on television and then...
Now, I don't think Patton was giving information out on television.
No, not in those days, no.
These references are like, he wasn't giving information on television.
Doubtful.
And then O'Reilly said nothing.
O'Reilly says, those were the radio days, and it wasn't like there wasn't really television.
I mean, it was an experimental, there was a product out there called television.
We had war films.
We had war films before the movie started.
Newsreels.
Yeah.
They played them all in theaters.
I remember when the only war reporting was on a celluloid newsreel in the theater.
So Trump's got to be careful.
And also, O'Reilly should be listening a little bit.
I don't think he listens to anybody.
I don't watch him.
It's hard to watch him.
Annoying.
And you're right.
But you're right.
Trump is boring.
He's become extremely boring.
With his demeanor, but this is the pivot.
This is the pivot, and I think it will make a difference.
Well, he might still be good in these in-person things where he does the big audience.
He talks to 20,000 people, and he brings it up a little bit.
I think he plays a better game there.
And that's being ignored.
He's still drawing the big crowds like Bernie does.
Yep.
One of our producers did something very nice, and he sent me two little clips from the 2008 campaign.
A little shorty here.
These were political advertisements.
Of course, we had Barack Obama running against Hillary Clinton.
And here's a piece from Hillary about Barack.
Shame on you, Barack Obama.
Okay, I remember that one.
But here's the one from Obama about Hillary, which, I mean, shades of Trump.
Just listen.
It's what's wrong with politics today.
Hillary Clinton will say anything to get elected.
Now she's making false attacks on Barack Obama.
The Washington Post says Clinton isn't telling the truth.
She championed NAFTA, even though it has cost South Carolina thousands of jobs.
And worst of all, it was Hillary Clinton who voted for George Bush's war in Iraq.
Hillary Clinton should say anything and change nothing.
It's time to turn the page.
Paid for by Obama for America.
I'm Barack Obama, candidate for president, and I approve this message.
All right.
Kind of shows you how these elections work, doesn't it?
Yeah, yeah.
Exactly the same thing Trump is saying now.
Exactly.
She voted for the war.
She voted for NAFTA. When President Obama said it, I love that guy.
Trump says it, crazy racist.
Yeah.
Well, they should dredge some of these old ads up and just play them again.
Yeah, it's always fun to do that.
And then, of course, we had this event in Phoenix, which I think warrants a little discussion before we take a break.
Charlie Rose actually categorizes it as something very funny.
First talk about Hillary Clinton and her husband, the former president, and a meeting with Loretta Lynch, which seems on the face of it simply to be an innocent meeting of two politicians saying hello.
Bye.
I'm just not smart, right?
Not a smart thing to do.
Two politicians saying hello.
Yeah, that's what it was.
No, neither is he anymore.
Of course not.
It's crazy.
Charlie Rose should be beaten over the head with his handbag.
I know exactly what took place on that plane, but I know exactly what it was.
Just to frame this, I don't know if you have any clips on this, but to frame it, they were both in Phoenix.
Clinton gets off his plane, goes under her plane, and has a half-hour meeting.
Now...
In the framing of potential indictment of his wife, this would make no sense for Loretta Lynch to do this, because if she does not indict, everyone will say, oh, well, you know, it was inside, they made a deal.
And I can tell you what the deal is.
I know it.
Okay, game.
First of all, before you do it, let me preface it and give you a little more ground to stand on.
I listened to, I didn't take any clips of this, but I listened to all the analysis of it.
And one of the analysis points, according to Lynch, and she did say a few things, they just talked about their kids.
Yeah.
Talked about their grandchildren.
So nice.
Yeah, they talked about, you know, Chelsea and this and that.
And it took a whole half hour to do this, apparently.
And, of course, everyone mocked this.
And whether they believed that that's what happened or not, nobody was pleased.
There's conflict of interest written all over it.
But these sorts of meetings, you can't do these things.
But, okay, now yours.
I think there's two things.
One, without a doubt, he said, if you don't indict, you're on the Supreme Court.
That's for sure.
That was the offer.
Supreme Court makes nothing but sense for her.
Woman, African American, fabulous.
But I think, you know, the Clintons, and this much I know from reading these books, when there's a scandal, they create a different scandal.
And I think we're going to see someone is going to take the fall for Benghazi, and I think he gave her the info.
He said, go after this person.
This is the person you want.
Something like that.
But for sure, she was offered a Supreme Court seat.
For sure.
I'm not going to argue.
That's a great analysis.
Because that would be exactly what she'd want.
By the way, you know, she's a twerp too.
Yes.
It's like Obama only hires these short black women.
You know, we're talking about women that are, you know, I'm not disparaging short women.
I think there's nothing, you know, very attractive.
Petite women are all over the place.
But these women are all 4'11 to 5'1 maybe.
Is she that tiny?
I didn't notice this until recently when she was with Carrie or someone that's really tall.
She's very small.
I would say if you put her next to the twerp, the twerp, the one with Susan Rice, I think they're the same height.
Well, it doesn't say in the Book of Knowledge.
She's 57.
I do know Hillary Clinton is 5'3".
Yeah, she's short too.
Man, did you see her and...
What a fashion disaster.
I'm sorry, just to talk about the fashion of it.
Elizabeth Warren?
I don't care what you say about what they said.
The two blue outfits?
Oh my god, this was a fashion disaster.
This was really fash holes.
This was no good.
Tell us more.
I'm very interested in this part of the conversation.
It was a total disaster.
It was no good.
No good.
I thought Warren's offer was a little classier because she had the black as a contrast.
But when you see her talk, it's like she has Tourette's, man.
She's, I would say that...
Insane!
Elizabeth Warren, in her longer speeches, when I thought she was going to run for president and win, and I was willing to bet on that, I still think she can still pull it out if something really bad happens to Hillary before the election or before the convention.
Not much time left.
You know, somebody busts her for something.
I think that...
Elizabeth was pretty good because she was more applauding, but she actually sounds like a maniac, a crazed maniac when she's talking about Trump and she's yelling.
She's yelling like Hillary does.
No, no.
She's a very, very different insanity, what I see.
She looks nuts.
I'm just saying she's yelling like Hillary does.
Hillary yells a lot.
She yells with a different cadence, but it sounds like yelling to me.
Misogynist.
When a man yells, you don't say he's crazy.
Now, here's the thing that would be interesting about adding a little, this would really be tough to pull off, but I think it's doable if somebody else does it.
Adding the word, like one of those coinages that you keep using with the person, like Crooked Hillary.
Goofy Elizabeth Warren, Pocahontas.
Those don't work, and the Pocahontas thing is now being interpreted as racist.
Even though, okay.
Hysterical.
Yeah, you can't say that.
You cannot say that.
Yes, because there's nothing worse than calling a woman hysterical.
Even if she is very funny, you can't call her hysterical because it's considered a misogynist commentary currently.
Yes.
But I think somebody could slip it in there.
And I think Trump might even be able to get away with it.
What else can I call her?
Hmm.
She's hysterical.
She's acting like someone who's insane.
I would say in hysterics, perhaps.
Yeah, but thank you.
That's what I'm seeing.
I'm seeing just her eyes go wide and go...
She's choppy and her whole body is moving like...
Tourette's.
It looks like Tourette's.
Come on.
Outstanding.
Just to add to the Clinton body count...
Did you hear about this?
Yeah.
This guy was from the UN. He was identified in a 98 Senate report as the source of hundreds of thousands of dollars illegally funneled through an Arkansas restaurant owner, Charlie Tree, to the Democratic National Committee during the Clinton administration.
And he died before he could testify.
He was set to testify later.
The next day.
The next day.
And I think a barbell fell on his head?
No, it fell on his throat.
Oh, well, there you go.
Yeah, I'll spot you.
Man.
It wasn't a barbell.
It was a big, heavy, you know, thing when you're on your back and you're doing some lifts.
Yeah.
And somebody's behind you because in case you're like, well, I can't hold it, you know, they grab it.
So somebody just positioned it over his throat and dropped it.
And he's dead.
And he's dead.
Whoa.
Crushed his trachea.
Just, you know, don't ever become close friends with the Clintons.
It's just not a healthy idea.
It's not.
No.
Not a good idea.
Alright, let's do this!
Let's do this!
I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
In the morning.
Well, we do have some people to thank for show 833.
Of 838.
Yeah.
For some reason, I always want to say three-somethings.
I guess time flies when you're having fun.
Ah, yes.
So we want to thank, starting off with Philip Smith.
Bloody well done, guys.
It's about time Real Bullshit World applauded your independence on the talent.
Sarah and I are proud to be producers and peers in the No Agenda Roundtable.
Thank you.
Cheers and beers from the Aussie and Dane in Oslo.
Ah, yes, of course.
Thank you.
Philip Smith, $150.
Bent, Bente Helt Edlich in Bennington, Switzerland, I believe.
Excellent coverage on the...
We should look up that city to make sure it's a CH. I'm always thinking of Switzerland.
It's Switzerland.
CH is Switzerland, yep.
Excellent coverage of the Brexit.
Thank you for your courage, and thank you to anyone in Europe who listened in and thought we did a good job.
That's 8888.
Andy Forward in Pacifica, California came in with 8380, which refers to the show number.
Congratulations.
A lot of these are congratulations for winning the award.
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This is a congratulations for winning the award.
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Sir Scott Fuller in Cumming, Georgia, 8380.
Rob Sedlak in New Richmond, Wisconsin, 8380.
I'm going to just name the city for these 8380s, which fully appreciated.
John S. Kristeck in Berkeley.
North Berkeley.
Wave to him.
Wave to him.
I can.
Hey, hold on.
Okay, I'm waving.
Hey, I see him.
Melissa Hodges in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
Sir Patrick Coble, Fairview, Tennessee.
Track Day Karma, please.
Maybe a wet row.
He's running now?
That's whatever he does.
Heiko Santama.
Hilko Santama in Houston.
No, in Houten.
Houten.
Netherlands.
Woods means woods.
Woods.
William Shepard in Houston, Texas.
8380.
John Knowles in Murfreesboro, Tennessee.
I assume he's pals or something with Coble.
Could be.
Alejandro Chapa in Houston, Texas.
And then that was our 8380 well-wishers.
We want to thank them.
And then we have Richard Leiter.
Sir Richard.
Sir Richard.
And we got a birthday.
This was the boobs donation, which was linked to the picture.
It was not good.
It was linked to Merkel.
Yeah.
Thanks.
Yeah, but it was referring to the generic boob.
I gotcha.
As opposed to boobs.
I gotcha.
Robert Alter in Kansas City, Missouri, got the boobs right.
Joe Schwartzbauer in Florissant, Missouri, also in with the boobs.
And Sam Godwin in San Jose, California, also in with the boobs.
Thomas Hittaler in Vienna, Austria, 6969.
Arthur Gobitz in Zandam.
Holland, Netherlands, 6666.
Jay Gerard in Woking, Surrey, Great Britain.
Let's see what he says.
Woking.
I used to live near Woking.
Woking.
To huge relief from relentlessly dumb news media.
I'm talking about our show.
So here's some debased pounds for you.
Well, there's that.
I'll email Longard.
He's going to talk to us about something.
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Sir Tony, the Jedi Knight of the Code in Downers Grove, Illinois.
Of the Codeurs.
The Codeurs.
Downers Grove, Illinois, 54.
Does he have anything here he wants to say?
Yeah, so he has his twin human resources are turning two years old, so they're on the list.
And he said the reason 54, they were both born on 627, so 27 times 2 is 54.
Gotcha.
I think he's on a birthday list.
He is?
They are.
And he says he's the proud owner of several interesting domains.
Armageddon2030.com, BillClintonDeadpool.com, ClintonDeadpool.com, Doomsday2030.com, EndOfTheWorld2030.com, and NAProducers.com.
Very nice.
Forward them to NoAgendaShow.com.
That'd be fantastic.
He says he's going to do something with them.
That means he might actually do something, which is fine.
Yeah.
Forward them somewhere.
Nice.
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Sir Eric, to be exact.
Jeffrey Anderson in Sewells Point, Florida, $50.29.
Bill Talti in New Orleans, Louisiana, $50.01.
There's a note here.
Bill Talti, call out Greg as a douchebag and a commie.
Douchebag!
Commie.
Tush bagging a commie.
Done.
Okay.
I guess he wasn't coughing up money.
Now, the following are $50.
I'm just going to name and place.
Bill Talti, $50.01.
Gerald Nabonnet in Union, South Carolina, $50.00.
Sir Peter Totez, parts unknown, although we know.
Ben Durall in Malta, New York.
Zachary Saldivar in San Angelo.
San Angelo San Angelo Texas Frida Sandstrom in some place in Sweden you've got a note here your show has turned my otherwise long and boring commute to work into the highlight of the day so thank you for your great work two years ago my boyfriend introduced me to your show and I've been eagerly awaiting each episode ever since I would also love it if you could make a happy birthday shout out to my boyfriend Magnus who turns the big 3-0 on Friday the 1st of July yes he's on the list
and I'm so happy you're in my life.
Also, Douchebagging for not donating yet!
Douchebag!
Alright, thanks.
She turned on you.
She's requesting some stuff we'll put at the end of the show for sure.
Or somewhere.
Don't eat me Hillary and Neil deGrasse Tyson, bitch.
Which is her favorites, I guess.
Dennis Brown in Rhinelander, Wisconsin, 50.
Lucas Lundy in Tacoma.
That was, yeah.
Lucas Lundy's in Tacoma, Washington.
He needs to be on there.
Sir Alan Bean, a baron in Oakland, California.
I can wave to him, too.
He's been sending some interesting little notes into help us deconstruct stuff.
Rodney, and that's where it is.
That's right.
Rodney, he wants the extra penny.
We already talked about it.
We got that.
There's one other thing.
Let me see.
Funny, it dropped way off after.
That's very interesting.
This was not a great day, but it was good.
Should I just mention the people who did $8.38?
I thought that was really nice that they did that for the show.
Yeah, we won't name them.
Okay.
It's probably about 10.
I had somebody grouse about us naming them, even though they're calling out their dad for father's.
Oh, really?
Sorry.
Yeah, it's still considered anonymous.
If we can read some of their notes, it's about damn time.
One says, Best Podcast Universe congratulates on the podcast award.
We got about, I don't know, 20 or 30 people maybe.
And then congratulations to the Dames and Knights.
Yes.
Well, thank you all very much for your support.
And, of course, everyone under $50, as we just mentioned, mainly for reasons of anonymity, but a lot of people are signing up to the 33s, the 12s, the 11-11s.
Always have one of those.
It's great because that always keeps us with some kind of base when donations are very, very low.
And thank you all for your courage.
And we do have one shout-out, which is a shout-out.
We can do his call sign, NC4AG. For Andrew, he hit him in the mouth earlier this year.
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They turned two on the 27th.
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She celebrated yesterday.
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Title changes.
Sir Otaku becomes the Baron of Northeast Texas in the Red River Valley.
Welcome, sir.
Very, very good.
And we have Sir Atomic Rod Adams, of course, becomes the Baron of the Blue Ridge.
And we have no nightings.
Zero nightings.
Meh.
Well, that's disappointing.
Well, they'll be back.
I think we're ready to go to the second segment.
Are we done?
Yeah.
Yeah, we're done.
I want to bring up a topic then, which is we've been trying to determine where Putin stands on the Brexit because there's, you know, he doesn't want to get too involved.
So he, now I've realized that he was for the Brexit.
Didn't want to get involved.
And he's probably, for more than that, he would like to see the European Union.
Because they're stooges in the United States.
I don't think he wants the European Union to break up.
He wants it all contained, doesn't he?
I don't know because of this report on RT. By the way, RT has got to deal with these Americans that are on the show because they're conflicting the...
Yeah, they're trying to do journalism.
That's wrong.
That's wrong.
Don't do journalism, people.
They're not even trying to do journalism.
But their opinion style is too much like, you know, it's too left-wing.
Left-wing, American left-wing, which is anti all kinds of things and not really in the interest of Russia.
No.
And Russia Today.
Is Russia Today Russia?
We always watch these shows and look at them and analyze them.
In fact, with it in mind that they're slanted to benefit Russia.
They're Russian Russia.
Yeah.
So you get to see some of these shows like watching the Eagles or whatever that one is and...
They're just bitching and moaning about Trump all the time when I think Putin is probably all for it.
And here's what makes me think that they're hoping the EU falls apart because the EU seems to be like lapdogs to the Americans when it came to these sanctions, which still annoy Putin.
And of course, I believe this all stems from them holding Snowden.
But let's play this report on the labor riots are still continuing in France, and Russia has a different take on it.
France has suffered months of protests over the highly contested changes to the law, which will, among other things, allow employers to sack workers more easily.
We gauged opinions on the streets of the capital, where people told us the government's caving in to EU demands rather than representing its own people.
Artie's Lizzie Phelan reports.
The French Senate passed through a draft version of that labor law.
Critics say that it's an extremely harsh version.
They say it's far too pro-business.
Most controversially, it gets rid of the 35-hour working week law.
Now, of course, amidst Brexit, many French people talking about the impact...of the EU on their national policies.
Many people saying that these reforms, these labour reforms that the French government is pushing through are largely a result of pressure from Brussels.
The EU last year, particularly the European Commission and the European Council, said that France needed to enact labour reforms, very similar to those being pushed through by the French government today, in order to address its deficit.
Here's what some of the people we spoke to on the streets of Paris today had to say.
There was a similar situation in Germany, a similar law in Spain.
All the countries are adopting the guidelines of the European Union, which serve the capitalists.
This is an absurd, scandalous logic, which is unacceptable.
This was liberal policy, which was imposed by Brussels and adopted by Hollande, and France is expected to yield.
I think there's a little messaging going on there.
Well, yeah, you'd expect it.
Yeah, and I think that's an anti-EU. Well, Putin right now, he's nosing up to Turkey, and he said, hey, we should probably figure out how to get along.
I know you shot down our jet.
I'm not absolutely sure this is Putin's initiative.
I think Turkey's cozying up to Russia because they've lost, and now it's going to get worse.
Turkey is a massive tourist attraction.
Not anymore.
Yeah.
Well, according to everyone that's at the airport the next day, the place was packed.
But, yeah, I know people are skeptical, but I've been to Turkey.
Well, the time to fly to an airport is right after the attack.
Now's the time to go.
It's the safest time for the next month.
Go, go, go.
But they have...
I mean, the Russians used to be their place.
They used to go to, I guess, to the Baltic Sea.
I think he lifted the ban, or there's talk of him lifting the tourism ban.
And if you pay some attention to what Erdogan was saying, he apologized, which I think the Russians wanted.
He literally apologized for shooting down that plane.
There you go.
And then that was it.
That's what the Russians want.
I think a lot of people always...
My wife's in a beef with a city council up in Port Angeles, and she filed an ethics complaint against this one woman.
Can you go into this?
Can you tell us what it's about?
Yeah.
Yeah, well, it's kind of boring, to be honest about it, but the city council's got, they cut off discussions about some topic, and there's conflicts of interest in some other things, and so she filed an ethics complaint for shutting down a meeting improperly,
and now there's this big, the city's spending a lot of money defending this woman, and my wife has made it clear that if the woman just simply apologized, That she would drop the ethics complaint.
And then she filed one against the mayor later.
She's a troublemaker.
So Mimi, because she wants her to apologize.
Well, no, she didn't like the woman and she likes harassing her.
Okay, let's just make sure.
But to get her to end this misery that everyone has to go through.
Mimi found an old city.
She found in the minutes and police did this ethics thing.
Here's the iron.
Okay.
So this woman and some other people had a guy on the city council.
They hated him.
And so they created this ethics law on the books.
And no one's ever used it.
And it's been languishing.
And Mimi said, you know, this would apply to this.
This action this woman did.
And so Mimi was the first one who ever used this ethics law.
And everybody went kind of ballistic.
What are we going to do?
And then she'd use it a second time.
And then she just had a meeting with the city council the other day.
Sorry, the city manager about the second ethics committee against the mayor who is apparently ailing.
He's got some health issues.
And they did a behind-the-scenes deal about what can they do to get her to drop that.
And she said if they allow people to speak...
For a longer period of time in front of the city council, she'd drop it.
I think that's what's going to happen.
You're right.
You are right.
It's a boring story.
Yeah, I told you.
You asked.
I did.
I did.
I'm sorry.
I would have volunteered if it was interesting.
I apologize.
I'll never do it again.
To the gate, to the gate, to the private gate.
Oh!
Yes, the climate gate.
Of course, the Paris Accords are now on shaky ground with the Brexit.
And, you know, we need everyone to buy in.
We need everyone to ratify.
And this is mainly about poor countries getting money, just soaking it all up.
And part of it is guilt.
Of course, we're all guilty for ruining the universe with our global warming for whatever we're doing.
We're so sorry.
Alaska, though, getting in on the game, trying to look for some money.
Unfortunately, this mayor of some Alaskan town that I mentioned at the beginning, he flubs a little bit, but he is saying, we need money up here because the sea is rising and it's eating up the coast and we're all going to drown!
If we don't move.
I want to stop you for a second and mention that this same stupid city has been trying to scam for a while.
I remember a couple of years ago we had some clips from these guys.
Yeah.
They got erosion.
It's called erosion.
Yeah, except he blames it on climate change, wants money, and then he goofs up.
Mayor Mike Ahmed has lived in Barrow for over 40 years.
He wants to move the entire city inland to save it from the effects of climate change.
If there were enough monies available, my thought would be to move the town.
But it's not that simple.
Barrow has a billion dollars worth of infrastructure, houses, schools, a heated underground tunnel that keeps pipes and sewer lines from freezing, all of which makes moving prohibitively expensive.
Our coastal communities are tied to the ocean, so in the past they could move very easily because you just build a new house.
But we've got buried infrastructure in all of our communities now and there's no easy fix.
So here's the problem.
He says we need money, we need money, but in the past, i.e.
before climate change, they just moved.
I don't understand how no one picks up on these things.
The guy actually said, well, we just moved the town way back when, when there was no climate change.
Yeah, so why were they moving it?
Because of erosion.
Just the universe.
Mother Earth.
Somebody should come and check out the little town here around here called Pacifica.
Yeah.
Pacifica has been, because the ocean slams against these sand banks, and it eats away at certain streets, and the next thing you know, these apartment buildings fall into the drink, and they have to, you know, move the street, and it's just erosion.
I have, I think, a more apt one that has less to do with erosion and more to do with just plain stupidity.
This is a good one.
Oakland Coal Facility.
Okay.
Okay.
And as California reels from scorching heat and deadly wildfires, the city of Oakland has taken a step against the fossil fuel industry, a main driver of climate change.
On Monday, Oakland city officials voted unanimously to ban the transport and storage of large shipments of coal, quashing plans for what would have been the largest coal shipment facility on the West Coast.
The facility in West Oakland would have sent coal from the Western United States abroad to China and other markets.
Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf said in a statement, quote, Oaklanders know that it's a false choice to say we have to pick between jobs and this community's health and safety.
We can and we will do both, the mayor said.
So they got this big facility and according to her, It's unhealthy or something.
I mean, all it is is just that they take coal off the train and put it on a boat and the boat ship goes to China, goes to India.
Who knows where it's going to go, but it's going to go to someplace where they burn coal.
What's it got to do with the health of Oakland?
Is there a lot of coal dust?
I mean, I don't think the modern facility has a lot of coal dust.
I think they have scrubbers for that.
I don't think it's a lot of coal dust.
I mean, they're not burning the coal here.
So what is their rationale for saying it's going to save the health of the city?
Oh, I know.
Suck it in soot.
That's what it is.
Sucking in soot, baby.
Sucking in soot.
By the way, West Oakland is one of the most impoverished areas in the United States.
Anything would help the area.
No.
Oakland, we have to have a lot of poor blacks because that's our image.
So let's don't do anything that might screw that up.
I'm done.
Okay, I have a couple things to end up with.
You've got to close the gate.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Swing it, will you?
Swing it.
Hit it.
Pushing.
To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate.
Uh...
Oh, a little bit of second half of show stuff.
You don't mind?
I'm going to play the jingle.
The president had a big powwow, now known as the North American Caucus, between Mexico, Scandinavia, and the United States.
And I want to thank the Canadian who sent me two packs of the Zig Zag Trudeau.
Papers.
Rolling papers.
Oh, rolling papers.
That's got Trudeau's.
They're called the Trudeau papers.
And they got a little image of him.
I need that.
Why did they send it to the non-weed smoker?
Because I asked him to.
Oh, okay.
All right.
So the president had this, and there was a lot of things that he said that we might have pulled clips from, but there was just one thing that just stuck out in my mind, and second half of show totally, because we've talked about it many times, when it comes to the proven MKUltra program, it's proven, this was true, they really did experiments, Bill Clinton even had to apologize for the thousands of Americans who were experimented on with psychological tricks, mainly run by the CIA, it was called the MKUltra program.
And there's a couple of things.
I'm sorry?
Well documented.
Yeah.
There's a couple of things that are, I'll just say, rumored to be triggers for MKUltra.
People who have either previously were, what is the word I'm looking for?
Brainwashed.
Brainwashed.
One of them is Somewhere Over the Rainbow.
That always seems to be a trigger when Somewhere Over the Rainbow.
But the other one came up as the Mexican president used it as an example of how...
The North American caucus is working together.
Finally, I would like to use an example to describe our level of integration.
The preservation of the monarch butterfly conservation.
This is a species that in its pilgrimage, we can see how our countries are intertwined.
And back in our last summit, We agreed that we would take care of this species and make sure that in its journey, the monarch butterfly from Canada flying through the United States all the way down to Mexico, and the figures speak for itself.
That's right.
And then the president actually came back.
We're determined to keep building on the progress that's been made at so many of the previous summits.
And by the way, Enrique, I love the story about monarch butterflies.
Yeah.
They're not just any species.
They're spectacular.
Yes, they are.
And we want to make sure that our children and our grandchildren can see them as well.
To be brainwashed by.
I don't know.
It's a little thing.
The second half of show stuff.
NPR. This will be my last one for today.
NPR had journalists from the New York Times on talking about FBI. And it was, of course, in relation to the Orlando shooting.
how FBI uses informants to what we consider basically honeypot trap and radicalize people into something that we traditionally called the six-week cycle.
As it was apparent, the FBI for years had to have some kind of event every six weeks or so to make sure they're on the radar, they're all doing the right thing, don't cut our funding.
But these were all, you know, they were homeless people that they would radicalize and arrest.
They were like, remember the four morons?
The four morons.
They were completely, totally morons.
They went, they bought the guns for them.
And it was beautiful to hear this in NPR, particularly because I don't think at any point, maybe there's like a little hint of it, but at no point does anyone say in this, does the interviewer say, how can this be right?
So here's the opening.
When we say an undercover operation, how is that different from a standard investigation?
Sure.
These are...
This guy always starts with sure every single sentence.
The New York Times.
...are basically stings where the FBI has identified someone they see as a potential threat, in this case because of support for ISIS. Now, overwhelmingly these people have been identified because of things they have said or done on social media through either Semi-public forums through Twitter or Facebook or Snapchat or Instagram,
or what they're seeing more and more is encrypted communications that the FBI has been able to break.
Ooh, did you hear that?
A little nugget there.
Apparently the FBI is able to break some encryption, according to New York Times.
The FBI has been able to break.
And they want to know, are these people serious about some of the things they've said?
Now, it's not a crime to say, I hate America, or you go ISIS. Why don't you try that?
Why don't you try tweeting right now?
You go ISIS. See if it's not a crime.
If that's taken to the next level, if you are pledging allegiance and support for ISIS, that could conceivably be a crime.
So the FBI, depending on how much of a threat they think someone is...
Could that be a crime if you pledge allegiance to ISIS? That's a thought crime, or is that a crime?
I don't know.
I don't know.
We'll just keep listening.
We're supporting more and more to undercover operations, not just monitoring these people, but sending in either actual FBI agents to pose as jihadists or ISIS sympathizers or sometimes even gun dealers or bomb makers or using informants in but sending in either actual FBI agents to pose as jihadists or ISIS Those aren't FBI employees, but they're sort of acting as agents of the FBI to really determine their intentions.
And what we found was that with ISIS occupying a greater place of concern for the FBI in the last 18 months, they have resorted increasingly to these undercover operations.
Now about two out of every three FBI investigations into suspected ISIS supporters, they are approving undercover investigations to do that, which is a much higher percentage than we saw just a few years ago with these ISIS cases.
So they're using very aggressive methods, not just as undercover observers, but really as participants in cases to say, here, help us out in buying some guns for an attack.
Help us out with setting up a bomb to attack a synagogue.
Hook a brother up, man.
Hook a brother up.
So here's the example.
And people should be careful if you don't make new friends.
Yeah.
Shun people.
Shun people.
Hi, nice to meet you.
Don't want to be friends, if you don't mind.
If you don't mind.
Here's the example of the Newburgh homeless guy.
The case of the Newburgh sting in Newburgh, New York, where there was a documentary about this, where...
Yeah, that was a fascinating case before ISIS where the judge was clearly very, very troubled.
She said in sentencing these four guys in Newburgh that had it not been for the FBI, there would have been no plot.
The FBI, in her view, created this entire situation and And yet she thought her hands were tied and sentenced all four of them to prison time because the FBI, at the end of the day, can point to its record of convictions in all of these cases since 9-11.
And they have never been found to have breached the line of entrapment in Newburgh or in any of these other cases.
They've been very aggressive, but they've been, in the view of the FBI and the judges, within the bounds of the law.
And the final, it was really, there's so much more to this interview.
I'm just bringing out some highlights.
You can find the whole thing in the show notes, 838.noagendanotes.com.
Of course, the question is, how does this all stand up in court?
What exactly is the line?
If they're dealing with someone who espouses radical views, but they, in effect, brainstorm the crime and provide the implements of the crime...
Under what circumstances can the target be legitimately charged and convicted?
Under no circumstances!
If they can legitimately say that the person was predisposed to that mindset, that the FBI did not introduce...
That's pre-crime, by the way.
If the person was predisposed to that mindset, my goodness!
Legitimately say that the person was predisposed to that mindset, that the FBI did not introduce the idea of radicalism to them, they can do an awful lot after that point.
If they have identified someone who has already shown a proclivity towards a radical mindset, They can really go step by step.
That's me, by the way.
In a purported plot introducing fake Stinger missiles, as they did in that Neuberge case and another case in Albany and others.
Fake bomb makers, fake gun dealers, fake attacks on synagogues or local establishments.
As long as they're not just sort of willy-nilly identifying someone and introducing the idea.
If they can say, this is someone who is already walking down that road and we just sort of led them there a little bit quicker.
Pre-crime.
Pre-crime.
It's pre-crime.
We make it a little quicker.
United States of America, everybody.
Do not say anything wrong.
Over your freedom of speech.
Okay.
And on that downer...
That last show and the poor guy was trying to give us a donation and he...
Crazy.
Crazy.
They damn near locked him up.
Dumb.
All right, everybody.
I have the Zika bill under the loop.
Very interesting.
I have a last clip.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I thought you were done.
You said you were done.
I said it was done, but I lied.
Oh, okay.
Just, oh, crooked Dvorak.
Crooked Dvorak.
I just wanted to get this out of the way.
This is the California to put pot back on the ballot.
California voters will decide in November whether to legalize recreational marijuana.
Secretary of State Alex Padilla said proponents of legalization have submitted more than enough signatures to get the issue on the ballot.
If the initiative passes, one in six Americans would live in a state where selling marijuana is legal.
Nice!
All right.
We voted against it once before.
We can do it again.
Do it again.
Of course.
Liberal California.
Look out for it.
All right, everybody.
We will return on Sunday.
As I said, I have the Zika bill.
Very interesting.
What happened there is the Democrats blocked the Zika bill.
And I'll tell you why.
Oh, yeah.
Well, wait until you find out what it was really about.
Nutty.
So that's a tease.
Classic tease in the classic tease sense of the matter.
Just fast forward, folks.
Just fast forward.
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And we'll be back with another show on Sunday.
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My name's Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where it might not be a bad day, unlike yesterday when it was all foggy.
It was terrible.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
We will return on Sunday with more deconstruction, news analysis, and, yes, comedy bits, right here on No Agenda.
Adios, mofos!
Where does this fit into the cycles?
We're going to regulate tea kettles, and it feels perfect.
Where does this fit into the cycles?
Which is right into the cycles.
It's a new form of generosity, but it was largely botched.
Well, it's just right into the cycle.
I'm not saying that they were going to regulate.
But whether or not this is the...
I think it was largely...
Well, it fits right into the cycles.
It's all just great.
All the small that has been right.
All the small that has been right.
So they write.
Right.
Specifically the real old.
Some new kids.
It's the British.
I think it's great.
Specifically the British.
How does this fit into the cycles?
All the small government.
The government.
It's the world.
You know, and the energy is...
And here's what's... I...
But whether...
I'll go to it.
Hostess of the kind of the English...
It's not democratic.
It's a new...
It's a new...
It's almost perfect.
The hog.
Yeah.
It's practice.
I...
But go...
Without saying that they want to regulate...
Ken Traylor.
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and suck. Sucking and suck. Sucking and suck. Sucking and suck.
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You might die.
You might die.
Sucking in soot.
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Sucking in soot.
I think it is.
Isn't it funny?
You know, when I came here 17 years ago and I said that I wanted to lead a campaign to get Britain to leave the European Union, you all laughed at me.
You all laughed at me.
What I have to say, you're not laughing now, are you?
You're not laughing now, are you?
We want our country back.
We want our borders back.
We want to be an independent, self-governing, normal nation.