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837: Open the Chunnel!
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Just stop there for a second.
Is that not the definition of bigotry?
Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
It's Sunday, June 26, 2016, and time once again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 837.
This is no agenda.
Calling CQ Field Day as one Bravo Sierra Tango X-Ray and rolling QRP as we're broadcasting live from the Drone Star State in the woods.
FEMA Region 6 in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley where I'm calling for a Calexit.
I'm John C. Forrest.
It is Crackbot and Buzzkill.
I'm sorry, Calexit?
Calexit.
Yeah, you threw me off.
That was good.
Calexit.
Oh, coming to you from the airstream of consciousness once again, John.
Yes, you're out in the woods and you tweeted a picture of your fabulous and well-organized rig.
Yes, I did.
It looked like what they call a kludge.
Oh, no, that's the small batch studio.
That's the podcast device.
That's something else.
Oh.
Yeah, that's something else I'm working on.
No, it's been fantastic.
Field day.
Field day, baby.
When all the ham radio operators go out into the field and try to make contacts.
So that's what you were doing?
That's the real reason you went out there?
Yeah, that's the real reason.
Also, I needed to just get away.
Just get away.
Sure.
For a CQ Fest?
Yeah, this is a nice one because this is the SHTF exercise.
Okay.
You know, shit hits the fan.
So, the idea is you go out with minimal stuff, battery power, and you try to make as many contacts as possible.
So, I'm a...
I really like the basics, so I'm just 5 watts.
5 watts, and I had all these different antennas to try out, portable antennas.
I had a magnetic loop.
I've got an NFED ZEP. And then, of course, the one that always works is 63 feet of wire hung in the tree.
It's unbelievable.
I know you're impressed.
I know.
So, wait, how many feet?
63 feet on the antenna side and another about 30 feet as the...
Is this tuned?
No, it's cut to a certain length and then you have a tuner in this rig that I have and then it'll correct the impedance.
Okay.
And it's fantastic.
I love HF. You have no idea how it'll work, when it'll work, but sometimes it just works.
Well, it's like these antennas that they've come out with that...
I have an antenna on my roof for a...
to pick up the VHF signals for HDTV. Yeah.
Actually, most of them are in UHF band.
Yeah.
Except for one.
Yeah.
And...
So it's on the roof.
It's huge.
And it gets everything.
Yeah, but that's all line of sight.
Yeah, that's all line of sight.
So I have a...
There's these little freaky little flat things that are like...
I don't know if there's...
If it's...
What the technology is inside, but it's a...
There's an antenna in there, but it's just the cheesiest little ten buck...
A piece of crap.
Yeah.
Flat.
Flat piece of plastic.
Yeah.
For those frequencies, you don't need much.
You know, very, very small.
Very small.
But I have the metal ones.
I had, in fact, I had a, in the house, before I put the stuff on the roof, I had the antenna in the house.
The old-fashioned one.
Mm-hmm.
A lot of these are fractal antennas.
Probably a quad array or something of that sort.
The old one.
But this little plastic thing, which is $10, it's a fractal antenna.
It's very small.
And it's flat.
And it's plastic.
And I guess there's some wire inside.
Maybe a lot.
Who knows?
It gets better reception than anything.
It's going through five walls.
I know.
The craziest antennas work.
My magnetic loop antenna.
You know, it's just a small loop.
You sit on a chair and you tune it with your right hand while you're doing something else with your left.
And it can work very well.
But the conditions weren't so good.
So I just flung the wire up there.
And even this morning I got up at, you know, 630.
Florida, Virginia, New York, New Jersey.
It was a lot of fun.
And thank you so much for getting me into this fabulous hobby, John C. Dvorak.
I'm sorry.
No!
No, not at all.
Not at all.
I'm very happy.
It makes me feel...
Well, you've gone further than anyone else that I've turned on to it.
It makes me feel very good.
I like it.
You're a tinkerer.
I've always been kind of a tinkerer.
Yeah, I am a tinkerer.
I am.
So let's get started.
Yes, good idea.
I will point out one thing.
Something could happen during this broadcast.
Of all the gear I had, then I had my checklist.
Somehow the clamp for the mic boom didn't make it.
Didn't make it intact, or you just forgot to pack it?
It didn't get packed.
At least I had not been able to find it.
Find it after the show.
Yeah, so I have the boom, but how are you going to make the boom and the mic work?
So I had a tripod and a gaffer tape, and if it falls down, you'll know.
I'm sure we will.
I think we should start off with, since we're going to be, we pre-announced the show as going to be mostly about the Brexit.
And I want to start off with the clip, official vote, so we can get off to a good start.
As Chief Counting Officer for the referendum on the UK's membership of the European Union held on the 23rd of June 2016, I hereby give notice that I have certified the following.
The total number of ballot papers counted was 33,577,342.
The total number of votes cast in favour of Remain was 16,141,241.
The total number of votes cast in favour of Leave was 17,410,742.
Thank you.
We're leaving.
The number of ballot papers rejected.
33.
33.
Love it.
Nothing like the magic number.
I want to make note that that clip was from Sky from England.
The same exact clip was played on CNN, but they cut off the cheering.
Well, CNN had a bone to pick.
Let me slip in...
Christiana Anumpur.
This might get us started.
Quickie.
Fortunate thing, Anderson, and this is where it gets really tricky and really ugly.
A lot of these Leave movements are led by the hard-right, very, very xenophobic, anti-immigrant, very populist, nationalist, white identity politics.
They are the leaders who are...
That was quite a sentence she rolled out there.
Yeah, that was a good one.
Like, just horrible, horrible people who did this.
Horrible people.
You know, the funny thing is that was a theme on most of these shows because they're run by the elites.
Yes.
And not to go into this backwards, but as I think about it, because I have some theses.
One of them is that I believe that the European Union is World War III. In fact, it was designed to be a slow-motion version of World War III, and the Germans were going to take over the place.
And that was the whole scheme.
The Brits have finally come to grips with it, realizing this was going on with these crazy...
I think there was a good variety of reasons people voted.
For example, over half of the Sikhs in the country voted for Brexit.
In fact, you find any Nigerians that came out of the British colonies voted for Brexit.
They do not give you a very good ethnic breakdown on the way the vote went.
They did a whole thing with ageism.
Young versus old.
They do not talk anything about it.
Also, uneducated.
You said, yeah, no.
Uneducated.
Right.
It was as though there, in other words, I guess Farage and Boris Johnson and the 40% of the Tories are all uneducated.
I don't know what this, yeah, it was uneducated, stupid.
It was, the idea was that the stupid people voted to leave.
Yeah, that's, I think that is the best demarcation, is smart people said stay, stupid people said leave.
That's pretty much all I heard.
Yeah, I heard that a lot.
And I was listening, because I have my regular channels here, which is part of the point, but I was listening to BBC World Service Radio pretty much all the time, so I got a really good feel for the pulse there, according to the Beeb.
The Beeb would have one approach.
I was listening to LBC and a couple of other things.
Sky and also I found that on the American channels during the moments that this was going on I witnessed as it changed because it started off with the Oh, they lost.
We're not going to leave.
And 52 to 48 was the thing.
And they said that, and that's when Farage came out and said, oh, well, it's too bad, but we lost.
And then as the votes started actually coming in, more than, you know, nothing...
It became very apparent that it was going to be the other way, and it was.
It was actually 5248 the other way.
Sky News had some professor on who does nothing but these sorts of analysis, and he called it way before anybody else.
In fact, this guy came on, and he called 5248 very early, and then it finally came to be that.
And I thought Sky had absolutely the best coverage of the whole And it would follow that in the United States, the best coverage turned out to be on Fox Business.
Yeah, what's the guy's name?
Varney is his name, I think?
Varney was one of them.
He came later.
Yeah.
In fact, I have a couple of clips.
He's the British guy on Fox Business who just seems, I don't know, maybe it's me, but he just seems kind of like a dummy.
I saw him.
He had some member of European Parliament on.
This was just before I was leaving, so I didn't get a clip of it.
And the guy was kind of timid.
Varney was just going, wait a minute, are you the guy who's always yelling and screaming?
How come you're not doing that on my show?
Come on, the producer said that you would be really excitable.
The guy was not having it.
That would be the way that guy.
Stuart Varney.
Stuart Varney.
Thanks, Chuck.
Stuart Varney.
Varney.
Let's play this.
This is one of the best ones here for Fox.
And this has got a bunch of interesting insights that just kind of trigger a lot of good thinking.
This is the best bitch session, Fox Tea Kettle.
...right now.
I think that this is a rebuke to President Obama.
Liz Peake, is it a plus for Donald Trump?
Actually, going back to the Obama thing, when he went to England and made those comments and sort of weighed in, most people really didn't think that was appropriate for him to be encouraging the English to vote to stay in the EU. Interestingly, the polling shifted right then, after his comments, to remain.
I mean, to exit, excuse me.
So whatever impact he had was exactly the opposite of what he had set out to do.
And maybe the English also thought it was a bit overreaching of President Obama to tell them what they should be doing.
As far as Donald Trump is concerned, look, he's a disruptor.
He's an anti-establishment populist character who is now being derided by every establishment elite in the country.
Who is this speaking, John?
This is a woman from the Financial Times, Liz something or other.
Good, good.
But you think she's a millennial, I think.
Sounds like it.
She might be.
If she's not, she's on the cusp.
Peter's point, I think there is an analogy here, absolutely for sure.
Well, there's a parallel, isn't there?
Totally.
And if Donald Trump were smart, going forward in the campaign, he would talk about bureaucracy and taking the power back to the people, local authorities, states' rights.
Wow, does she watch anything he says?
That's right.
Issues like that.
Apparently not.
My goodness.
Because Americans hate the federal government.
I'm sorry, that's an overstatement.
But the fact is, they do feel like our faceless bureaucrats in Washington have usurped a great deal of the power that their local authorities traditionally and typically have had.
Yeah, the suffocating pillow of regulations is what people don't like.
And in the European zone, I mean, they had rules like children under eight couldn't blow up balloons.
They had rules on the powers of vacuum cleaners.
There's rules of recycling teabags.
That's exactly right.
Actually, hyper-regulation made people crazy, I think, in England.
And rightly so.
And the thing that they did that was over the top and made the difference, they came out and banned electric tea kettles.
Every English family has an electric...
Yes!
Is she actually claiming that the EU regulations on electric tea kettles really influenced the British in this?
Well, if you listen to enough of the British bitching and moaning about some of these regulations, yes, I think that she has a point to a point.
Now, this is bullshit, by the way, the tea kettle thing.
The tea kettle thing turned out to be the EU was about to regulate tea kettles, so you couldn't really buy one of these electric tea kettles.
They have them all over England.
I have them.
Yeah.
And the best way to boil water is to make some quick tea with a bag.
Yeah, and just pretty much create a short circuit with electricity in the water.
Crudely put.
What happened was a memo got out that said that they were going to...
I think she's got this wrong, and I could be wrong too, because it's hard to dig up a lot of these regulations that the EU kept pounding into England, but they seemed to be directed at the British, almost to get them to quit.
But a memo got out saying that they were going to regulate tea kettles and toasters, specifically the British style of toaster, like a Duolet, which is an electricity hog, because it had something to do with global warming, so they're going to make these things illegal.
But then they pulled back on the...
The science is in!
Sorry.
What's my elbow?
They pulled back.
You hit the right button.
They pulled back at the last minute because they were afraid it would affect the Brexit vote.
But that memo of them pulling back got out.
And so if we don't vote Brexit, we're going to take our teapots away.
Let's listen to the rest of this.
It was a minor thing, but there was a lot of, if you listen to Sky...
Well, I'd like to listen to the rest of her.
Yeah, okay.
And electric tea kettles.
Every English family has an electric...
Yes!
This is a new rule that has been on the shelf for months.
It's all the small appliances, you know, and the energy efficiency, a climate issue, right?
So they banned toasters of the kind that the English use and the tea kettles.
People went crazy.
Yeah!
I do think there's a powerful lesson here, and that was if you look at the original formation of the EU, when it was called the EEC and the common market, it was a tranquilizer on the Game of Thrones that Europe had been, and it really was a commercial entity.
It was a free trade zone.
Exactly.
And then it morphed.
It evolved over time and became sort of a wolf in sheep's clothing.
It was a surreptitious political angle and the politics got more and more to the forefront.
And as that happened, something was going to break.
It became a triumph of micro regulation and micromanagement.
And lobbyists plying the hallways of the European Commission.
Because let's face it, it's also, have we seen an Amazon?
Have we seen a Google?
Have we seen a Microsoft come out of the EU?
No, because they're all about harmonization.
It's the, what she's talking about there, something we discussed, which I ran into in some of the research for today's show, is the Council of Europe, which has a great EU official sounding name, but the Council of Europe is not part of the European Union governance.
It's a lobbying group, and everybody's in that.
And those guys suggest and recommend to the commission who, by secret ballot, create or propose laws.
I learned so much about the EU, which I actually didn't exactly know.
And one thing you had asked previously, I stumbled across the yellow card.
Remember, we were joking about it.
Did they make it just like soccer?
Yeah?
They do.
Okay.
They have a red card, too?
Well, yes.
So you have the orange card as well.
So you have the Council of Europe, and they're the lobbying group, and they'll lobby the commission, commission who are unelected, and, you know, it's a small group, and they have secret votes proposed in the laws.
If the laws seem to breach sovereignty, then a country can issue a yellow card.
If there's enough yellow cards, it becomes an orange card.
The orange card tells the commission that they have to revisit.
Not change, not reject it, but they have to revisit.
And then there is a red card, but that doesn't happen very often because, quite honestly, it's political suicide.
So it's a very strange way of governing.
And of course...
Well, it's non-democratic.
It's a new form of government.
It's a new world order.
It's a new world order.
I think it's all a practice run.
I mean, they'd hope it would go better than this with having these guys walk out, one of the big ones, and leave.
But it was largely botched.
And I think it's, you know, I don't know if they're going to recover.
Most people think it's the beginning of the end.
I mean, I'm not absolutely convinced of that.
Before we play any more clips, I'd like to state that although just before the vote...
We both were pretty convinced that it was not going to happen for a number of reasons, including the murder.
A number of good reasons.
Yeah, the murder of Joe Cox.
We had the bookies.
By the way, the bookies have looked into it.
I don't think they lost any money.
I mean, the odds just show...
They don't lose money.
The bookies don't lose money.
Right, exactly.
But the idea was that the bookies...
By the way, the bets come in are predictive.
Well, they weren't.
And about midnight West Coast time, the numbers switched over really quickly to like 95% chance of them leaving.
The bookies, because the bets were starting to pour in...
As those numbers started to change, and I'm sure that once that guy from Sky News said something, it just switched over and the bookies pulled the plug on the old odds instantly.
And what we had always said is, should they get the vote, it will not happen because there will be a do-over.
This is the culture of the EU. We saw it with the Lisbon Treaty.
Ireland didn't give the right result.
Do-over.
The Netherlands and France didn't give the right result.
Don't worry about it.
We'll just fix that in our chambers and parliaments, and then, of course, it was all good to go.
And now it looks like...
Well, actually, very interesting.
Hold on a second.
I have a couple of clips here.
So there's this kind of like the White House...
We can create a petition and people can sign up for it.
So now we're up to two and a half or three million signatures.
But that's the point.
These are not signatures.
This is a website.
It's a website where somebody clicks a box and says, yeah, I want another vote.
This is no good.
But it's being described by every news organization, including the BBC, as signatures.
These are not signatures.
This is not an official...
You can't get that many signatures that quickly.
No, of course not.
It's not possible physically.
But this referendum was not binding.
They can do whatever they want.
And it looks like there's a big push now for a do-over.
Before we go there, this is Catherine Rample, who writes for the Washington Post.
Just to give you an idea, so we already heard the Financial Times lady.
Thank you.
Here's the Washington Post.
She is quite young.
I'm not blaming everything on millennials, but we know that the younger generation voted for stay and the older generation voted for leave, which in my mind means we should raise the voting age to 40 because, you know, that'll be much safer for everybody.
I want to mention something about that, because when they were showing the kids protesting, and we have to discuss this sometime during this show, the kids were holding up signs, protest signs, saying all kinds of nasty stuff, but a couple of them, and I think more than a few, said, I am not British, I am European.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah.
I thought that was the most interesting thing of the night.
Yes, and we also received several notes from producers who are unhappy about Brexit, and one of the main arguments is, now I don't have the right to go, what is being described as freedom of movement, but what I'm hearing everyone say is, well, now I can't move to France and work there for a year.
Yeah, you can, but if the most important thing of being in the EU is that you can leave England, What is your point?
No, I can't leave.
Yeah, you can.
They're idiots.
And I got a lot of those notes, same notes, and it was always, oh, now I can't leave.
You can leave.
You can always leave.
You can go leave now.
There's nothing that's changed for at least a year or two.
So go leave.
Get out of there if you hate it that much.
But it seems everybody who's pissed off about it is the fact that they can't work outside of England.
The UK. That just doesn't make sense.
Anyway, this I thought was very interesting.
This is actually the kitchen sink.
All the memes are thrown in here with this woman.
How confident are you, based on what you wrote, that Americans will vote based on their knowledge and not their anger?
Sadly, I am rather pessimistic.
If you look at the kinds of reasons why Americans cite their attraction to Donald Trump so far, it's mostly about the fact that he gives voice to their anger, to their feelings of being left behind by globalization, by other forces within the economy, by economic stagnation.
It's not necessarily his policy positions per se that are attracting voters to his message.
It's more the fact that he's sort of a way of saying, you know, damn you establishment, we hate you elitists, you have left us in a terrible position and we want to shake things up.
I also want to get to something else you wrote in your column.
You said at least some Brits who voted to leave are already expressing regrets now that they realize what their ballots have brought.
I do want to point out there's an online petition we've learned this morning for a second EU referendum that has reached more than a million signatures.
We know that it's not going to make a difference necessarily.
It's not going to change anything.
But what do you think they're regretting specifically?
I think they're regretting the consequences of their vote.
If you look at what happened to the pound yesterday, if you look at what happened to global financial markets, to panic around the world as a result of this decision, of course they're having buyer's remorse.
Didn't we all know that was coming?
One would think.
Certainly lots of economists and other experts warned that this would have dire consequences.
But yet, the leaders of the...
As a part of the science is the new religion, a lot of the younger generation, when they hear things like 98% of all scientists agree, 98% of all economists agree, they take it as fact.
They take it as, hey, consensus means it's got to be right.
It's got to be true.
It would have dire consequences.
But yet, the leaders of the Leave campaign said, well, down with the experts.
Actually, one of the leaders of the campaign had basically said, of course there are no experts who agree with me, but who cares?
I think this country has had enough of expertise, has had enough of experts.
So yes, there were a lot of people who were forecasting these consequences, but in a very perverse way, because of this anti-establishment, anti-elitist, anti-intellectual, Anti-establishment, anti-intellectual attitude that has taken root around the world.
People just brushed those forecasts aside and said, I don't care.
Because they're against it, I'm for it.
Sure, so real quickly, maybe in one or two sentences, what would you like to say to the American U.S. electorate?
Now, she's not a journalist.
She's an opinion editor.
From where?
Washington Post.
Washington Post.
Oh, they're asking her to tell the American public something as though she's a foreigner?
Okay.
Here we go.
As we head into our own, you know, election in November.
Elections have consequences.
It may feel gratifying to vote for the protest candidate, but think about what they actually stand for.
Think about what experts, economists and otherwise political historians, say about the policies that the two candidates are putting forward.
And think about the consequences of those policies, which you will have to live with.
So this meme of, the most Googled term is, what is the EU? This was a big one.
This was expertly launched.
I got that too.
Before you continue with going in that direction, this woman has a couple of things, a couple of memes in there that need some addressing.
Yes.
One of them is the buyer's remorse idea.
Yes.
And that's where this phony baloney online thing came from.
Probably Facebook, I'm sure, helped out with that.
Sure.
She made this thing about people are regretting their vote to leave.
There was a number of people that they tracked somebody down, a couple of people, on one of these shows or other.
And they said, oh, I went in voting.
I don't know how they try to sell this to anybody because there's a logical thing going on here that is being ignored by the younger voter.
And it's being ignored by the news media, too.
The argument is this.
I went in to vote, and I voted for exit, for Brexit, because I didn't think it was going to make any difference.
I didn't think it was going to make any difference.
I didn't think it was actually going to happen.
I was stoned.
I just went in to vote.
I don't care what electorate we're talking about, if it's British or American, if you don't think your vote's going to mean anything, you don't vote.
I don't know if anyone gets out of bed, hauls their ass down to the voting place, and votes because they think it's meaningless?
That's what they're trying to sell us.
Yeah, which is by these very smart people.
Oh no, very dumb people, I'm sorry.
Right, they're dumb, uneducated people, even less likely to go out of their way to vote.
Nonsense.
Even Max Keiser bought into this.
Now what's amazing is that the hangover from this is that Brits don't even know what they voted for.
According to Google, the most popular search the day after was, what's the EU? Why did I vote to leave the EU? Who am I? It's one incredible accidental revolution.
I'm not buying it.
I'm not buying that at all.
That just popped up.
Let's listen to another version of this.
This is a bigger...
Matt Kaiser has no audience.
ABC has a huge audience.
And this is the clip, ABC Rap Google Search.
Other major story tonight, the global aftershocks after that vote in Britain and for so many around the world, a stunning result, deciding to leave the European Union to go it alone.
Wall Street here at home plummeting more than 600 points and the faces in Britain, those who thought there was no way this could happen.
Then another surprise, the Prime Minister of Britain announcing his resignation, walking back into 10 Downing Street, his arm around his wife.
And here in America, fear over Americans and their savings.
The Dow ending the day down more than 600 points.
And tonight, as the reality sets in, evidence some British voters may be having second thoughts.
One of the top Google searches in the UK, what is the European Union?
Voters asking what it is they just left.
I'd like to know who...
Now, wait, wait, stop, stop.
I got to analyze the end of this thing because there was a joke opportunity.
And it was presented in such an awkward way.
He says, wondering what it is they just left.
Is it supposed to be?
It should have been.
He says, wondering what it is they just left.
I think was what he's supposed to say, but he had a pause in there.
So he said, wondering what it is.
They just left.
Which makes it very awkward because that would be the way to present a joke.
I think somebody misput...
I don't know how this problem was.
Let me listen to it again.
Let me listen to it again.
Announcing his resignation.
Walking back into 10 Downing Street, his arm around his wife.
And here in America, fear over Americans and their savings.
The Dow ending the day down more than 600 points.
And tonight, as the reality sets in evidence, some British voters may be having second thoughts.
One of the top Google searches in the UK, what is the European Union?
Voters asking what it is, they just left.
Yeah, it's a misread, misread, misread.
The way it should have been, if you wanted to make this funny, you could have done this, wondering what it is.
They just left!
I mean, I think it was written as a joke, and then he read it as not a joke.
It didn't work out.
It didn't work out.
A couple things in there I want to talk about.
One, savings.
He uses the word savings.
The stock market went down of 600 points.
He's done that before.
What's it got to do with savings?
Nothing.
Well, this is where people...
I got a couple emails.
I woke up, my money is worth 10% less.
That's not...
Oh, yeah.
My money's worth 10% less.
The elites lost 5 billion euros, pounds, because of their money's worth less.
Well, our money's worth more.
I know.
No one says that.
I'm like, yeah!
No.
Yeah, nobody's writing that.
Trump did, and then they ridiculed him.
Did you see the audio wasn't good enough to clip?
He was doing his Scottish golf course press conference.
Before the press conference started, some comedian from the UK, he was apparently some really funny dude, he crashed the press conference, and he said, oh, I'm here to sell my new golf balls, and he had golf balls with swastikas on them.
They were great looking golf balls.
Very few people covered this.
In fact, ABC trying to slam him about the Scottish...
Slam?
Slam him?
Yeah, I said that.
The only democracy now that I know of, except some other maybe minor outlets, showed the guy, had him come out.
You can see him.
He's a funny little guy.
And then he threw a bunch of these golf balls out and then they showed shots of him.
Everybody, all American major outlets, nobody even mentioned this little thing.
And it was...
Anything was funny.
It was this.
The audio wasn't good.
That's why.
It was just not well recorded.
Somebody should have mic'd him up.
The guy should have mic'd himself.
I have an MSNBC version of the Googling what is the EU I'd like to play.
Yeah, it's interesting because the Googling of what is the EU and what happens if we leave that spiked after the vote was pretty incredible.
Bob, I want to play you...
Just to Kim's point, sort of the uncertainty that we're now seeing among people who actually voted to leave.
This is one young man who's gotten a lot of play, probably to his extreme sadness or woman, about the regrets about the vote.
Take a listen.
The whole family this morning, even though the majority of us voted to leave, we are actually regretting it today.
I wish we had the opportunity to vote again, simply because I would do so many things differently.
And Bob, I was thinking of the, there's a young man who was at a round table who was even more famous than that poor young lady, but that kind of regret that you're seeing now, what do you make of it?
Well, I think that people were basically saying, I'm mad as hell, to use the cliché, I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore.
And that's what they were saying with their vote.
If you ask them, what are you mad at?
They can't really say.
But what they are angry at is the fact that not only is this a nostalgia for the past, but a fear of the future.
And probably it's a valid fear.
They have been talked down to and been taken advantage of by the elites, whether they're the intellectual elites, the political elites, certainly the economic elites.
And of course, that is the feeling in this country and forms the basis for the support for Donald Trump.
Oh, there you go.
Always bringing it back to Trump.
Lovely.
I guess we can credit Trump for the whole thing.
Yeah.
Um...
So, unless you have something else, I do have an opinion about the real cause of this.
I've got plenty of stuff.
Yeah, play some more clips.
I want to do that in a bit.
The thing that bothers me, okay, let's go, I've got plenty of crazy clips.
Let's try, let's go to the ABC, back to ABC with Tom Yamas, and he's covering Trump at the golf course.
Hold on, okay.
We're still doing Brexit though, right?
Yeah, we're going to do Brexit for a while.
We promise we're going to do Brexit.
All of our thoughts about Brexit aren't all bent out of shape or screwy.
Or made ill.
Made ill by the bull crap.
You can get made ill by this.
And all of fears and everything.
Again, I'm going to stick with my theory that this was all part of a World War III scenario.
Which is interestingly, a couple of the memes I'm hearing, another big one, which Angela Merkel tweeted out as well, saying the European Union project was about stopping wars.
And because it's gone, now we'll have war.
That is a big one.
Oh, it was about stopping wars.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's actually people in England that believe that.
Yeah, I'm going to disagree with that.
I was on some forum and somebody says, oh, we're going to have war now.
There's some kid, you know, an 18-year-old.
We're going to have war now.
My dad said so.
Well, I spoke to Michelle, my buddy who has the place in the south of France.
Oh boy, sorry.
South of France.
South of France, I tell you.
And he said, well, there's a couple of things.
He said, number one, Now, the French are very vindictive.
He said, they are going to mess with us.
That is his thinking, and he's a real, real Brit.
But the thing he brought up, which I found interesting, is Gibraltar.
And Gibraltar is now in play.
And the parallel is so uncanny, because here we have a small piece that's attached to Spain.
It was acquired after the war of the succession of Spain.
When the big kahuna, we'll forget his name, he was childless, and so who was going to be the ruler of Spain, and they had to divvy it all up, and some went to his sister, and so there was a lot going on, and then there was a big war over the secession, and what wound up happening is England, which was a smaller player, they got a couple of protectors, they got Menorca, and they got Gibraltar.
And Gibraltar arguably was a part of the EU with, or is a part of the EU with the United Kingdom in the EU. But now the EU and Spain is saying, hey, you know, we should change the rules here.
It should be different.
And the Brits, they love Gibraltar because it's a great place to go.
You know, they love going on vacation.
It's been there in their family for hundreds of years.
And here's the irony.
It's like Crimea.
It's the exact same thing.
But I think it'll be handled a little differently in this case.
Well, it's going to be interesting to see how Gibraltar is handled because something like it voted 80-90% to stay, which makes sense because they're actually in the EU. They're physically attached as opposed to the British Isles.
What do you think of the comparison to Crimea with Russia?
I never thought of that.
I think it's a good idea.
But the problem is it's not as though it's traditionally anybody's...
I mean, the only people that could...
I mean, British are...
It would make a better parallel if the Russians always had Crimea and the Crimeans wanted to be with Ukraine.
Well, it's just kind of the opposite.
It's kind of like a reverse twist, kind of a fancy version of the Crimea situation with everything backwards.
Yeah.
So, it's an interesting thing to bring up as such, but the parallel is not really accurate.
It is a problem.
And Gibraltar every so often goes into one of these little snippet things where they...
I don't know.
I mean, it's very British.
I've never been there.
I'd love to go.
But it's apparently, you know, it's like Little London.
And I guess London itself is also problematic because they voted heavily into staying.
Yeah, I have a...
Actually, this is a Max Keiser clip, which I think is a fantastic short one, about the problem with...
The city of London being within London.
Of course, they all wanted to stay, and here's why.
The UK has got financial services, okay?
And this is what they have is a raunchy economy, and they're at the nexus of the European Center for Money Laundering and Other Financial Crimes.
Now, with Brexit, that is in question.
A lot of that business is going to flow to Frankfurt.
So their ability to skim the cream off the top is diminished.
And that means less cash flow.
And that means less ability to keep that top one-tenth of one percent happy.
And meanwhile, there's no manufacturing base.
I mean, so what?
The pound drops down to record lows.
Does that mean that they're going to go back into the factory and start, you know, building shoes?
And they're going to start building, you know, stuff?
And that's not going to happen.
Maybe in 20 or 30 years, they have to rebuild the entire industrial base.
That's not going to happen in one or two years.
Yeah, we have to find a new place to launder the drug money.
I don't know what we're going to do.
That's a good one.
Here's a little snippet that's kind of funny.
Play this HMS Cornwall story.
Okay...
And then, I've got to tell you something, Connell.
No one's talked about this, but in 2007, the HMS Cornwall was stopped by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.
They held their sailors for 15 days.
They humiliated them, just like they did ours in January.
And the Great Britain had to go to Brussels for help.
And, of course, Brussels dragged their feet.
So along the way, I mean, this doesn't happen overnight.
Remember, the Euroskepticism or the Euroskeptic movement goes back a minimum of five years, even longer.
So this has been building for a long time.
I didn't know that story.
Somehow I vaguely remember.
Yeah.
But I don't have any B12 in the Airstream.
Yeah, you should probably grab some.
Let's play a couple random clips.
Actually, go back to the Trump clip.
Yeah, the ABC. There's ABC Tom Yamas trying to hammer.
Hammer!
Hammer!
And slam Trump.
Europe to its core.
Donald Trump choppered in for the reopening of his golf course with this bold announcement.
Basically, they took back their country.
That's a great thing.
With bagpipers following him and staffers wearing red Made Turnberry Great Again caps, Trump spent less than 30 seconds at the top of his speech addressing Brexit, then another 13 minutes praising the course, from the new sprinklers to the luxury suites.
A lot of people think this will be the greatest par 3 anywhere in the world.
Afterwards, Trump fielding many questions about Brexit.
Do you think anything you said in the United States influenced voters here in Britain when it comes to leaving the EU? If I said yes, total influence, I'd all say, that's terrible.
His ego is terrible, right?
So I will never say that, Tom.
But my opinion is that what happened should have happened.
They'll control their country and they'll control everything about their country.
Trump also tweeting, they took their country back, just like we will take America back.
And as the British pound was sinking, Trump was singing.
Look, if the pound goes down, they're gonna do more business.
You know, when the pound goes down, more people are coming to Turnberry, frankly.
On Wednesday, Trump was less certain about Brexit.
I don't think anybody should listen to me because I haven't really focused on it very much, but my inclination would be to get out.
And today, Hillary Clinton releasing this new video mocking his golf course appearance.
Are you traveling with any of your foreign policy advisors?
Well, I've been in touch with them, but there's nothing to talk about.
David, though Trump is in Scotland for this critical time in Europe's history, this was a scheduled business trip.
And tonight, the Trump campaign tells me right now, there are no other foreign trips planned before the election.
David, Tom Yamas in Scotland for us tonight, Tom.
Yes.
They played a clip from some Hillary thing that was just lame.
There was a lot of this analysis, people saying he didn't even know what it was about.
He didn't know there was a vote.
A lot of hyperbole.
A true leader would have taken this time to talk about the consequences and not just about his own stuff.
By the way, I have a confession to make.
He went there to open the golf course.
That's what he was supposed to do.
I have a confession to make.
You hate golf.
I don't blame you.
No, no, no, no.
I didn't experiment a test to prove or to demonstrate how media can control your mind.
And I didn't tell you about it, although I think in the last episode...
I never know with you.
You may have already figured out what I was doing.
Here's what I did.
I made a big deal about the media using the word slammed and hammered and thumped and pounded and all these words.
And you have highlighted this for us, of me doing this.
Yeah, yeah.
The reason why I did it is a mind control trick.
Because every time you read this or hear this on the news, what do you think about?
When somebody says slammed or hammered?
Yeah.
If you've been listening to this show and you hear that on the news, you think about this show.
Oh, yes.
Yeah, we do that every so often.
We try to do that.
So I did it on purpose, and I want everyone to realize how well it worked.
I don't know that it did.
Oh yeah.
Have you seen Twitter?
Oh yeah.
The minute there's a slammed headline, boom, there's a hundred posts about it.
Okay, well that's a plus then.
Good, good for you.
I'm glad you did that.
But it was more to demonstrate.
We've done this before with other memes that come out.
We bitch and moan about them.
It works.
I just never thought Slammed was used that much until you pointed it out, and I'm looking, well, they have transformed to Hammered, or whatever the next one is, because they're overusing the term.
But I thought that when we developed the end of the day by catching ourselves...
That also helped.
Yeah, that was also a good one, but we didn't do that on purpose.
No, but the one that came after that we did on purpose, and I can't remember what it was, was another critique.
It's another one of these phrases that the media keeps using over and over and over and over and over, and it just drives both of us kind of crazy.
Slam never really bothered me that much.
It seems a little beneath the New York Times.
And the BBC. Having written a couple pieces for them over the years and I know how the editing works, yes, I'm stunned that the New York Times even allows it.
And BBC. BBC did it as well.
Well, BBC's, you know, they're...
I don't know what they're up to, but it's nothing good.
This whole thing is just a...
And whether it results in, you know, here's the little, if you go on the internets, you'll see a bunch of websites.
If you look for the conspiracy sites about how the U.S. is really behind the entire EU and we want to start.
And there's some truth to that.
But let's listen to, here's a good clip on the PBS NewsHour discussing the USA involved in the European project.
I agree that there isn't any leverage or room for maneuver, particularly with Chancellor Merkel and with the United States.
Stepping back, we have been at this for 70 years.
This is not just a European project, it's very much an American project.
And we have been central for those 70 years to cajole the Europeans at particular times when things were going the wrong way, to do the right thing and work together.
Our leverage isn't the same as it was in the 40s, in the 50s, in the 60s, but it's still there.
We're still a very critical partner.
And I do believe that if the United States, particularly working together with Chancellor Merkel, We're to make it very clear that yes we accept the results of the voters and yes there will be a different relationship between the United Kingdom and the European Union but we still want the United Kingdom to be a fundamental strong European power and we want the Europeans and the United Kingdom And the United States to work closely together.
We'll do it in NATO, we'll do it on an ad hoc basis outside of it, but we need to work this out together in order to maintain the essential European project.
Well, yeah, I can see that.
I'd say more of the globalists, really.
Create a United States of Europe, and then bring it all together eventually.
Yeah, the one world government.
People laugh when we say it, but there's a lot to it.
I don't think they're laughing as much as they used to.
I mean, they used to remember when we first picked up on Nigel Farage and his influence very early on before he was doing anything.
We just saw this guy.
He's too much of an interesting speaker to ignore.
We got a lot of flack from UK listeners.
That guy's a joke.
Racist.
Racist.
Racist. Racist. Racist.
He's a racist.
He's a joke.
Yeah, racist.
Racist. Racist.
And, you know, he's continued to provide us with material.
I know where this racist thing comes from, which I think is worth going back into history for a moment, back to 2011.
Because all of this racist stuff, what are you laughing at?
Let's go way back in history.
If you'd have said 1860, I think that would be a little more interesting.
I already did that with Gibraltar, and I got nothing from you.
I know, because you were floundering with the backstory.
Let's go back to 2011!
Okay, this actually goes back to earlier than that.
These problems, specifically with, let's just say, broadly immigration, started with a concept that was pushed very, very hard by the European Union, and I witnessed this myself at the turn of the millennium, 2000, where Europe was going to create the multicultural society.
That was the idea.
That was the plan.
And along with that came a lot of issues.
Let's start with Salman Rushdie, really, if you think about it.
He was the first guy to write something bad about the Prophet Muhammad, and there's a fatwa on his head.
In fact, not reported or very under-reported in February of this year, the Grand Poobah there in Iran, upped the fatwa to $4 million if you kill the guy.
Which is, you know, people don't even know Salman Rush.
When did this happen?
Because my understanding was the fatwa was lifted.
No, sir.
No, sir.
In fact, the New York Times did report on it.
Let me see, I have it here.
February 23rd, the New York Times reported on this.
Iran's former Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Khomeini, issued the fatwa in 89, and he just upped it to $4 million at the beginning of this year.
Just underreported.
So, these are the issues, and I have a couple more examples after Charlie Hebdo, but listen to David Cameron talking about the issues the United Kingdom faced What I'm about to say is drawn from the British experience, but I believe there are general lessons for us all.
In the UK, some young men find it hard to identify with the traditional Islam practiced at home by their parents, whose customs can seem staid when transplanted to modern Western countries.
But these young men also find it hard to identify with Britain too, because we've allowed the weakening of our collective identity.
Under the doctrine of state multiculturalism, we've encouraged different cultures to live separate lives, apart from each other, and apart from the mainstream.
And this is exactly what the multicultural idea was.
And everyone said, yeah, that's great, everyone should be in Europe, and hey, you Muslims can be over here, and you Orthodox can be over here, and you Jews can be over here, and Muslims you can split up, Moroccans there, Turks there, you know, Pakistanis, whatever you want to do.
Yes!
Yeah, here it comes.
He's actually going to say, remember, this is 2011.
...a vision of society to which they feel they want to belong.
We've even tolerated these segregated communities behaving in ways that run completely counter to our values.
So when a white person holds objectionable views, racist views, for instance, we rightly condemn them.
But when equally unacceptable views or practices come from someone who isn't white, we've been too cautious, frankly, frankly even fearful, to stand up to them.
The failure, for instance, of some to confront the horrors of forced marriage, the practice where some young girls are bullied and sometimes taken abroad to marry someone when they don't want to, is a case in point.
This hands-off tolerance has only served to reinforce the sense that not enough is shared.
And this all leaves some young Muslims feeling rootless.
And the search for something to belong to and something to believe in can lead them to this extremist ideology.
Now, for sure, they don't turn into terrorists overnight.
But what we see, and what we see in so many European countries, is a process of radicalization.
It's refreshing to hear him say those things, which now you can't say that anymore because you're just a racist.
And underneath the undercurrent...
Borderline clip of the day.
Give it to yourself.
Thank you.
I'll take the borderliner.
Borderline clip of the day.
This is an excellent clip.
Thank you.
I went looking for this because I was in the Netherlands.
You remember the clip from the past?
Yeah, we should have had the clip.
Well, Angela Merkel at the time was in German.
Angela Merkel came out and said, the multicultural society has failed.
At that point in time, in the Netherlands, Theo van Gogh, I can't say he was a friend, but he was a colleague.
I worked with him on a couple of TV shows.
He did a movie, which was anti-Islam, about how women are treated.
He was shot down in the streets of Amsterdam, and then a knife.
He was shot, knifed, and they stuck a note with other prominent people who were next on the list into his chest.
With the knife.
I haven't forgotten this.
I'll just skip forward quick.
Charlie Hebdo.
Just an idea about Britain, the UK. After Charlie Hebdo, the Victoria and Albert Museum took down Muhammad's image.
Because, quote, British museums and libraries hold dozens of these images, mostly miniatures and manuscripts, so they had to take them all out of view.
In Germany, the Deutsche Opera canceled Mozart's Edemonio in Berlin because it depicted the severed head of Muhammad.
The English playwright Richard Bean forced to censor his adaptation of Lysistrata, in which the Greek women hold a sex strike to stop men from going to war.
In his script, Muslim virgins were going on strike to stop suicide bombers.
Couldn't have that.
No, can't have that.
Molly Norris, American cartoonist, she drew a picture of Muhammad that proclaimed everyone draw Muhammad Day.
She's still in hiding to this day.
The Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York pulled images of Muhammad.
So people notice these things, particularly older people, and they say, hold on a second, it's affecting our culture.
And this is just the art world.
So that is really a big part of what people have been feeling.
And then the minute you said something about it, that's when the, bam, your racist labeling came in.
So this has been brewing a long time.
And you can say, sure, it's the laws and it's the regulations and all that.
But when you have a problem with the people living next door to you ghettoized, this is much bigger than anything else.
And this is not discussed, particularly if you know that this discussion, this conversation was going on in Europe for years and years and years.
And now it's over.
You can't talk about it anymore because we went from multicultural to complete.
to create a national identity.
Well, that's failed too.
Instead of saying, we failed at this, let's stop it, we said, we failed, let's keep going, and let's take any dissenters and call them racists.
And xenophobes.
And xenophobes, yes.
And by the way, I mentioned in the newsletter that I don't think anybody using the word xenophobe knew what this word meant a decade ago.
They had to look it up.
I think it may have even begun with Trump, because some intellectual said he's a xenophobe.
No, it started with Farage, I think.
That's when I first heard it.
Okay, well, whatever the case, somebody brought up, and I said that phrase, somebody brought up the word, and people started looking it up, and they said, well, this is a good word.
It actually identifies the problem better than just racist.
So now what you get is a xenophobe and a racist.
So you got both words.
And then we got a new one which came into play, which people should look for.
You hear it a lot.
Demagogue.
Yeah, demagogue.
Yes, that's a good one.
The left wing is the one who brought demagogue in.
And demagogue is a horrible...
It sounds bad, but if you look up the definition for it, it simply means populist.
Yeah.
It's a person who takes advantage of popular opinions.
In other words, if everybody wants to, you know, wants to do something...
Let's say they all want to put a lake in the neighborhood.
And we need the lake!
We need the lake!
You could be defined as a demagogue.
Just that simple.
It's not a really negative thing, but it has negative connotations just from the sounds of it.
Demagogue!
Yeah, like demon, demon, demon, demon.
It's got demon in it.
It's got dog, which has got some sort of negative things in some biblical sense or Talmudic sense, I believe.
So now you're a demagogue, a racist, and a xenophobe.
And I have seen posts on Twitter and elsewhere where somebody has called these three things.
And somebody feels so proud of themselves for using those words.
Another word that I think is used incorrectly, but a big word, is divorce.
I mean, what?
That came right.
Now that you mention it, because I noticed it, but I didn't notice it to the point where I'd mentioned it on the show.
But now that you have, yes, it's being used improperly, constantly with this situation with the Brexit.
Oh, it's going to be an ugly divorce.
Divorce, divorce, divorce.
Divorce is easy in Texas.
Just shoot the woman, right?
No.
In the Netherlands, if you kill your wife and you just say, oh my god, it was a crime of passion, it'll be five years you can get out in three.
But if you go through the whole divorce, women have a lot of rights in divorce in Europe, in the EU, you could wind up paying money for the rest of your life.
So, you know, your choice.
Oh God.
Anyway, so the divorce came into play as opposed to just leaving, you know, or divorce, it came into play.
All the networks are using it and it has a negative connotation like everything else that is being reported about this event.
Like someone cheated on their wife.
Or something.
Yeah.
They're divorcing.
They're divorcing.
Something went wrong and it was bad and somebody was at fault and it has to be England.
It seems to be at fault.
But you're probably right about the simmering issues of multiculturalism that have ghettoized these populations.
Well, I've lived in two of these countries.
You've lived in it.
Yeah.
And it does make nothing but sense, and I think that clip of Cameron discussing it, and you're right, I haven't heard that discussion for years, probably had more influence than the other two factors.
And that was at the start.
Of course, the EU does go back a long time.
It goes back to the European Atomic Treaty, I think.
A lot of different treaties have led up to this.
But I was there.
The sale was multicultural society.
It's going to be great.
And it was every single country as part of the EU. It was a big push.
And I also remember when everyone said, crap, it's failed.
And that was around this time, starting with Merkel.
Well, yeah.
Multiculti replacing melting pot, which was the old, you know.
That was ours.
That was America.
Yeah, well, we had the melting pot because we could suck all these people in at a certain rate and make them Americans.
Yeah.
And there was, especially in the 20s and 30s, in some of these early movements where you had a lot of Eastern Europeans coming over and the parents would come in and say, oh, you can't, don't speak the home language.
You've got to learn English.
You've got to speak English.
You've got to speak English.
And to become an American.
And, you know, there's still pockets of Chinese-only speakers and plenty of Spanish-only areas.
Ghettoization.
That was the result.
That was the total result.
Yeah.
Let's listen to...
I've got an interesting clip.
Because Brooks and Shields, the two...
Same from the same pod piece in the same pod on PBS. Brooks is the guy from the New York Times who has been completely baffled by the Trump phenomenon.
And I find it, by the way, discouraging that he hasn't been fired.
Because if I'm going to listen to people doing analysis, I want them to understand and explain to me something.
Not like, I don't understand this guy!
And he even says a few times in some clips we've played where he says, I don't know, I haven't got a clue.
So what are you on the show for?
Well, I think he's still trying to understand it.
And he's almost getting...
He's getting kind of close.
And he discusses the Brexit with, I think, a fairly...
It's a reasonable analysis for someone who still doesn't know what he's talking about.
And it agrees, ends up agreeing with Shields about the same thing.
But this is the blame game argument.
This is one of the things that you've heard you probably disagree with.
They just blame the elites.
Until now, practically.
Oops, oops, oops, sorry.
Scapegoating.
But this is, I thought, was, well, I thought this was better than most of these little bits they do.
Until now, practically, has been about the vote in the UK, David, to leave the European Union.
What do you make of this?
Well, in country after country, we're seeing a conflict between what you might call urban cosmopolitans and less well-educated ethnic nationalism.
Ah, dummies!
And ethnic nationalism is on the rise.
And I agree with everything that Ivo, Richard, and Mark...
You know, just stop there for a second.
Is that not the definition of bigotry?
No, it's total bigotry, and he is a bigot.
And he does fall into the trap of blaming the dummies, because the dummies shouldn't vote, by the way.
Yeah, you should be an IQ test.
An IQ test is what you need.
Yeah, you should need an IQ test.
And he falls into that trap because he is an elite.
And so he actually is speaking from an elite perspective in this little bit.
And if you think of it in those terms, you can hear the bigotry.
He's a horrible bigot.
But at the same time, he's expressing the elite's perspective from a kind of the critic within the elite clique kind of thing.
I just found it interesting.
And ethnic nationalism was on the rise.
And I agree with everything that Ivo, Richard, and Margaret were saying.
But it should be said, and I covered, I lived in Brussels for five years at the Maastricht Treaty when all this was coming together.
And the elites, as much as I hate the leave, the fact that the UK is going to leave the EU, the elites in some large degree brought this on themselves.
There was built into the European Unification Project an anti-democratic, a condescending, and a snobbish attitude about popular democracy.
And secondly, and this is also true here, and I'm as pro-immigration as the day is long, but we've asked a lot of people who are suffering in this economy to accept extremely, radically high immigration levels.
And we've probably over-flooded the system.
And so while it's easy, and I do condemn the vote to get out, a little humility is in order on the part of the establishment, frankly, that we've flooded the system with more than it can handle.
And secondly, we've not provided a good nationalism, a good patriotism that is cosmopolitan, that is outward-spanning, and that is confident, and therefore a bad form of parochial, inward-looking Trumpian nationalism.
Trumpian!
Mark, the elites brought it on themselves?
I think the forces and the advocates of globalization have been primarily obsessed with the well-being of the investor class and the stockholders and shareholders.
And been indifferent, oftentimes callous, to the dislocation and the suffering that people in countries affected by this trade, the expanded trade, the larger economy, have been victimized by it.
And it has been accompanied, I think, by an elitist condescension in many cases.
And it's been taken advantage of.
I mean, the shorthand today is that we saw the words of the Republican nominee in waiting, who is a part-time presidential candidate and a full-time real estate developer.
You know, he won.
And Barack Obama lost.
I mean, by any scorecard.
There's no spin put on this that in any way comforts Democrats today.
Who are the elites, really?
I mean, let's just break it down.
Does that include everyone with a college education?
Because I am undereducated, so I am a dummy, according to these people.
You're a dummy.
I was thinking this exact same thing.
Who are the elites and who are the ones that are being condemned in this particular bit we listen to?
Even though David Brooks, to me, is an elite.
And there is no real group of elites.
I mean, there are people that meet at the Bilderberger Drinking Club.
I mean, that includes people like Eric Schmidt and a number of people from the CFR, the Council on Foreign Relations.
I think that group are the elites, are part of the elites.
I think that entire catalog, you can download it.
How about the Atlantic Council?
That's totally elite.
If you're on that council, you're an elite, period.
It's by definition.
So you want to hear what one of the elites there, one of their economists, had to say?
He was actually quite calm and reassuring about the future, how it would go.
Dr.
Jeffrey Gedman.
Now we know that Britain has decided to leave the European Union.
I would say for all of us, big, deep breath.
It doesn't mean the sky is falling.
It doesn't mean the European Union is coming unglued.
It doesn't mean the end of world order as we know it.
It means that Britons, very thoughtfully, in a very contentious campaign and referendum, have decided, for reasons of maybe economics, maybe identity, maybe issues of sovereignty, have decided their future is best served outside the European Union.
It's still a European country in power.
It still wants to and needs to and will Work closely with the European Union.
I think the questions that remain are, what does the transition look like?
How do we protect stability?
How do we guard against unwanted volatility inside Europe and with the United States?
And I would even say this, for Europeans, I think it's a wake-up call.
Because the questions that Britons were asking themselves They exist in other countries too.
Other countries too are concerned about democracy deficit, the meaning of the future of Europe.
How does one define that?
Is it more integration?
Is it less integration?
Is it a one-speed Europe?
Is it a multi-speed Europe?
So I would say, while some people will be disappointed, I think Brussels and Paris and Berlin will be disappointed, I think it's a chance to hear citizens across Europe Deep concerns.
How do we make Europe function smoothly going forward, keep Britain part of that project, and America close to both, the United Kingdom and the European Union?
If we listen and learn the right lessons, I think we're going to be just fine.
Oh, that's how the elites tell you it's all going to be okay.
Don't worry.
That's a very elite guy.
Sure.
Just don't worry.
It's all going to be fine.
Because it'll never happen.
There's going to be a do-over.
It's obvious.
They're not going to let it happen.
Well, if they have Junker, one of the presidents, Junker, really the head guy, and Schultz, both of those two guys have said, let's speed up the process.
Let's get these guys out of here.
Get them out!
And meanwhile, Merkel came out and said, no, no, no, no, no, slow down.
I think she's sensing the possibility of it not really happening.
And she's saying, no, no, no, no, no, we don't want to rush into it.
I think I have a clip about this.
But she...
She's like, I mean, it looks so obvious to me that the entire EU project, even though we're behind it, and we were kind of supportive of the Germans after the war.
I mean, we killed as many as we could, but after the war was over, we realized they were good at a few things, and we took a lot of them into our scientific community.
Yeah, NASA. Operation Paperclip.
The operation paperclip.
It seems totally illegal and definitely unethical, but we did it anyway.
And I think the Germans keep making this.
Of course, the French used to do this with Napoleon.
They kept trying to take over the whole of Europe and the whole place.
They wanted to take the place over.
And then the Germans started doing it, but the Germans have a longer history of trying to take the place over.
And it's like, let's let the Germans take the place over.
They can take over the whole place because these people, they knuckled under the last time.
This time it'll be peaceful.
We'll create this EU. Let the Germans run the whole thing.
And it's all run by a bunch of, you know, these bureaucrats and these characters.
Junker's a good example.
Yeah, he's not German.
But he's, what, from Luxembourg, Lichtenstein, Luxembourg, I guess.
This was the clip that BBC was playing, which I did not get a copy of.
Anyone in the chat room on the stream listening, if you can email it to me, if you find it.
They interviewed a veteran of World War II, old Brit, and he was late 80s and 89.
And he is crying.
It's a great piece of audio.
I was listening to it streaming, so I couldn't catch it, couldn't find it.
And he's crying.
He's so emotional.
He says, I can't believe that finally we have my country.
I have my country back.
The one that my friends and my buddies died for just to have a bunch of Germans run the whole place.
He was so happy, but he was emotional.
Because it's not that long ago.
There are people who remember.
Not that many, but enough of them, enough of the oldsters that remember, and they were lectured a lot.
The younger generation doesn't even know there was a war.
The 18 to 24, 75% of them voted to stay in the EU. They don't know, and they're the ones who say that, you know, I'm not British, I'm European, and they think of themselves as European.
I don't know about you.
You've been to Europe a lot.
You lived there a long time, here and there.
Yeah.
I've never thought of the British as European, per se.
I've always thought of them as British.
Well, this was something that was sold in, and I've heard Germans say this.
I've heard British say this.
I've heard Dutch say this.
For a long time, I heard, I feel like I'm a European.
Yes, we are part...
The idea was right.
Hey, we're the young generation.
We don't hold grudges against the new Germans.
They're sorry.
Just give me my bike back.
We won't talk about it.
And...
They all consider themselves to be European.
And it was hammered into everybody's head.
You're European.
You're European.
But ultimately we know a fiscal union without a political union, it's very dangerous.
Well, some people blame the actual creation of the Eurozone as part of the problem.
The British, luckily, never became part of the Eurozone, and so they could get out a little easier without all the entanglements.
I mean, that's why I think the Greeks would have left a long time ago if they weren't somehow wrangled into the Euro.
Yeah.
But it seems to me that you have these Germans running everything.
And the Germans are Germans.
And they are the ones that they set up this number of bureaucracy.
People working in the bureaucracy is twice the size, according to one of the London newspapers, twice the size.
The bureaucracy creating laws and rules is twice the size of the British army.
What we have going on in our country, which is these rule-making bodies, which have gotten out of control, which I think is annoying to most people trying to run a business.
And I think in England, there was nothing but complaining about this.
The small business people, they couldn't do this, they couldn't do that.
There were too many rules.
And these rules all came out of Brussels.
Because there's a manufacturing operation going on in Brussels of rule-writing.
There's writing, oh, let's make the plug this size.
Let's do this.
Let's standardize this.
Oh, yeah.
It's a rule-writing factory.
That's right.
Yeah, so they're writing all these rules and regulations, tons of them, millions of them, and they expect everybody to even keep up with it, which almost is impossible, so you're always in violation, a very Soviet idea, so no matter what you do during the day, you're in violation of some rule.
And we have that here in the United States, too, by the way.
We have it here only recently, and it's been getting worse.
The EPA is a good example.
You don't know what the hell's going on with these rules.
I mean, that's what's going to happen to this net neutrality thing.
It's going to turn into the FCC is going to write a bunch of rules, and pretty soon you're going to need a license to get on the Internet.
Maybe not that bad, but it's definitely a podcasting thing.
Remind me of a clip for that later.
You have a clip for that.
Good.
But this whole thing is like, you know, I'm glad this happened and I'm glad they voted out.
Now, the one that bothers me the most, though, let's listen to the CBS, and this is what bothers me the most, and it should bother you.
You're old enough to feel ageism, but let's listen to CBS ageist rap.
...in Europe would allow an influx of immigrant hordes from the East.
And those who had successfully...
Wait a minute, they're sending whores?
What did he say?
Yeah.
What's the problem, people?
...in Europe would allow an influx of immigrant hordes from the East, and those who had successfully stoked those fears, like Nigel Farage, were gleeful.
June the 23rd needs to become a national bank holiday, and we will call it Independence Day.
By the way, that was well-timed with the Will Smith movie coming out with Independence Day.
Genius.
Very good.
London, unlike most of the country, had voted to stay in.
And Leave campaigner Boris Johnson was jeered as he left home.
He's now a favourite to take over as Prime Minister and tried to take the high road.
I believe we now have a glorious opportunity.
We can pass our laws and set our taxes entirely according to the needs of the UK economy.
We can control our own borders.
The vote had split the country on age, geographic and economic lines.
The older, poor, less well-educated voted out.
The young, better educated, wanted to stay in.
The vote hasn't cleared the air here, it's made it more bitter.
The old have determined what kind of country the young will live in.
So just replace the word old with black, or red, or female, or whatever.
Yeah, it's unbelievable.
I thought it was one of the most abhorrent raps that CBS could manage.
Now, CBS, of course, we know is an agent of a government agency.
And the government agency, the whole government, our government didn't want this to happen because we used the...
We like Britain to be in the...
In the EU because we could tell them to make sure that Russia gets sanctions against them.
Yes!
Anybody outside of Britain, nobody else would go for this, but the British are very powerful and they represent us.
There are agent in the EU, which we wanted to keep as an agent so we could do stuff like the sanctions against which are really the sanctions against Russia hurt the EU.
And by the way, people say, oh, Putin wins because of this.
No, Putin doesn't want the whole thing to fall apart because he knows what the results of that would be.
Because these guys start fighting with each other.
The next thing you know, they want to take over Russia.
Yeah.
Even though NATO wants to do that.
Inside track, it won't be Boris Johnson who will become Prime Minister.
Yeah, what did you hear?
Theresa May.
Yeah, Theresa May is high on the list.
Everyone's talking about her.
Do we listen to her?
Do we?
Yeah, we haven't heard from her in a while.
This legislation is important.
The substance is right, the time is right, and the way in which it has been developed is right.
It is a properly considered, thought-through set of proposals that will help to keep us safe at a time of very significant danger.
It has been drawn up in close consultation with the police and security services.
In an open and free society like ours, we can never entirely eliminate the threat from terrorism.
But we must do everything possible, consistent with our values as a country, to reduce the risk presented by our enemies.
It is a struggle that will go on for many years, and the threat we face right now is perhaps greater than it ever has been.
And we must have the powers we need, powers we need, powers we need to defend ourselves.
news.
There she is.
Your new Prime Minister.
I hear that's...
I forgot about that, yeah.
She's terrible.
Yeah!
Yeah, she's terrible.
Fun for the show.
Oh, by the way, thank you very much, Britton, because this is great for the show.
I mean, I'm very happy about that.
Yeah, it gives us...
And we get to just...
We like to discuss what's going on over there, generally speaking, but this is a real goldmine because it brings in all sorts of issues of the name calling and who are the elites.
We still don't particularly know, but they're there.
And I'm also very proud that the No Agenda listeners...
We're well ahead of knowing what was coming.
Everywhere I heard, well, Americans probably think breakfast is a new breakfast cereal or a new candy bar.
Talk about you're uneducated.
Why don't you say we're all moron idiots?
Maybe true, but still, come on.
Some people are aware.
I would say only your No Agenda show has kept you up to speed with this thing, is what's going on.
Well, a lot of people feel that's the case.
Nobody else was talking about this in advance.
I mean, days before the Brexit vote, there was still no discussion on the mainstream media.
We saw this coming down Broadway.
I want to play an example of bad analysis.
It's actually kind of...
Fox deteriorated after it went back to their normal hosts, because their normal hosts aren't that good.
And this is Tucker Carlson, who's now all of a sudden an expert, discussing with Greta.
The Scientologist.
Some of the fallout of this, and then it just falls into an abyss at the very end, which just needs comment.
I'm trying to find which clip it would be.
It would be an example of bad analysis.
Ah, there you go.
I got you.
France, Germany.
I mean, they're not the Netherlands.
There are not that many huge economies in Europe, but now Germany is preeminent.
And so if I'm Spain or Portugal, or France for that matter, and I'm looking at Germany and saying, really?
I want to be part of an organization that you dominate completely?
No!
The support for leaving in these other countries, Netherlands particularly, France also, is really high.
Trumpism, which is another word for nationalism, is a global trend.
Hold on a second.
What?
Trumpism, which is another word for nationalism, is that in the dictionary all of a sudden?
No, but have you noticed this is the second time somebody's taken Trump's name and made it into something.
Yes!
I love this.
So, tell me how it affects us here.
Well, probably it will cause our economy to contract to some degree.
Again, the finance sector.
One of the main points of globalization is that it allows capital to flow freely with less friction across borders.
That is really good for finance.
And there is some trickle-down effect from that.
What do you mean by finance?
Banking, basically.
Okay, but not everybody's a banker.
A lot of people aren't bankers.
And a lot of people aren't even that dependent on bankers.
They aren't that dependent for their...
Maybe if they're trying to get loans to their business.
You're absolutely right.
But there is some trouble going on.
Okay, and I didn't get too much work to put the buzzer in.
But let's stop there, because he agrees with her when she says not everybody's a banker, nobody's affected by it.
Is she absolutely insane?
Yeah.
She is saying that banks don't mean anything to most people.
They mean everything to everyone.
Yep.
Every dollar you spend is a Federal Reserve note.
That's a bank.
That's an instrument of a bank.
Every check you write is an instrument of a bank.
Every credit card purchase you employ is an instrument of a bank.
Every dollar you get for a salary comes from a bank.
Everything you do all the time.
Well, to be honest, I believe what she means is just two types of banks, and it's been conflated certainly in America since Glass-Steagall was taken away.
You have the bank, which is the retail banking, which is for small business, and then you have, of course, the bigger ones for bigger businesses, but then you have the investment side.
And that's the problem is, oh, the bank stocks are going down.
It shouldn't make any difference to anybody in the example you're talking about.
Well, she made the point that the public seems divorced from banking.
And the point is just the opposite.
And he could have brought that in, but he agreed with her instead because he's useless.
Now...
Now, the whole, you know, the banking sector, by the way, their bank stocks are going down because nobody knows what's going to happen.
Uncertainty is what really caused this stock market crash.
And whether it, when or how it recovers, I mean, we've talked about this before.
It could result in a triggering effect where we actually go into a deep recession.
This is the question I have for you.
Where does this fit into the cycles?
Well, it fits right into the cycles.
It's almost perfect.
But whether or not this is the mechanism, the triggering event, is hard to say.
Now, we're talking about the 40 and 80 year cycle that I'm always talking about.
And that's which says we're going to have a really bad depression.
In 2016, late 2016 or 2017, 2017 should be the year it happens, but because the crash, the real estate crash that started the so-called Great Recession happened in 2008 instead of 2009 when it was actually scheduled by my theory.
It happened six months to a year earlier.
It's possible that Tom Hartman, with his 2016 crash, might be right.
I mean, this could do it.
I don't think so, because my observation is the 2008 thing caught everyone off guard, and...
We're controlling this particular downturn, which started in 2008 and has continued, and I think it had something to do with the Brexit, which is that nobody's doing well.
There's all kinds of reports on the British don't think they're going anywhere.
11% of the public is only optimists.
And so it's possible.
I don't think so.
I think what's going to happen is it's going to recover and go on its merry way marching forward, but it's going to happen now.
Again, when either Netherlands, Denmark, or one of these other countries, those are the two that are targeted for another Brexit vote, or exit, dexit, and nexit.
Swexit, you got the Swexit.
And what's the Swexit?
Sweden.
Oh yes, Sweden.
Yes, exactly.
That could happen too.
And that could all happen every time.
Every time that happens, it's going to drop the market again because, oh my God, we're all going to die.
And I think any one of those could trigger the final collapse, which will be a nasty one.
And that would just be the idea of a referendum, an exit referendum, or an actual referendum.
No, it has to be the vote.
I think it has to be modeled after what we just saw.
There was the idea, it was there, we were waiting for it, blah, blah, blah.
We had our thoughts about how it was going to go.
It went in the way that nobody fully expected, which was a surprise, which was an element of surprise, which was a problem for the market.
And so we had this element of surprise.
And so then the thing collapsed.
I think it's going to be the model.
It's going to be the vote comes in, oh no, and then the market will collapse.
And one of these collapses...
I think will trigger something bigger and it'll probably be combined with something else.
I just don't think this is it.
If it is, okay.
But I just don't see it.
It's just a...
And it wasn't panic.
People keep talking about panic.
There was no panic.
Something else Michel said.
He said, you just wait.
He says, I know what France is going to do.
He says, they're going to load up a whole bunch of these migrants on the ferry.
They're going to take them over.
They're going to drop them off.
Because according to British law, the minute you said...
Put them in the channel.
Yeah, well, that too.
The minute you set foot on British soil, you have a right as a refugee, as an asylum seeker.
There has been some talk about, this is not, this is, this has been discussed, what you're saying.
Yeah, yeah.
And I think the way they're going to do, I think so too, I think, why not?
Yeah.
Because they're sick of these people hanging out in Calais.
Hoping the tunnel!
Yeah.
So just get a big channel thing with a bunch of boxcars on it and load them in, German style, into boxcars.
I'm thinking show title, Open the Channel.
Open the Channel.
And I think that woman that we heard on the last show saying, Brick It Up, I think she was on to something.
Yeah.
And that's what I would do if I were the French.
And I was irked about all this thing.
And get these people out of Calais.
They say, look, everybody, you want to go?
We're going to have one train.
We're going to have two or three trains.
We're going to ship them over there.
Get on if you want to go.
Otherwise, get out of town.
There was no news video, but there was an Instagram video that was doing the rounds.
A couple of Brits as they were driving from France and getting ready to go through the channel.
And it was mayhem.
There were, you know, the migrants were throwing rocks at cars.
Cops were shooting tear gas.
There were people all over the road.
They're swerving around just to get into the channel.
It's frightening. - I'm not kidding.
Yeah, I know.
That was my response, too.
But, wow.
In Europe, it's so hard to believe.
Man, it's so hard.
Yeah.
Let's see what else.
I have a little entremant.
Now, we have a new producer, PMUK, and I've been playing his stuff at the end of the show for the past couple of weeks.
He always seems to come up with them.
They're about a minute long.
I'm going to play this at the end, but I figured this time as an exception, also to honor him for the work he's doing, I wanted to play his most recent one.
Next to the sausage stand, the conversation switched to national sovereignty.
In amongst the cream teas, one of the key referendum issues had reared its head in the most visible manner.
The sun has risen on an independent United Kingdom.
All right.
We may well be close, perhaps, to next it.
Next it.
I'm told the same may apply to Sweden and perhaps Austria and perhaps even Italy too.
I'll decide.
I declare Independence Day.
I declare Independence Day.
I'll decide.
I said before that Britain can survive outside the European Union.
And indeed that we could find a way.
I'll decide.
I'll decide.
I like the geese.
Yeah, well, I figured you'd like that.
Alright, let's play making an example of the UK one, which I think is probably what is going to happen.
Anyone else from doing this, they're going to make an example of the UK by screwing them.
A clear message that Britain should leave as soon as possible and should not be given any special treatment in order to discourage other nations from following suit.
Personally, I'm very sad about this decision, but of course we have to respect it.
Say what?
We will stand strong and uphold the European Union's core values of promoting peace and the well-being of its peoples.
The Union of 27 member states will continue.
From German Chancellor Angela Merkel, there were questions about what comes next.
We don't know about the consequences of this step that will appear within the next days, weeks, months, and years.
That will depend on how we, the other 27 members, are able and willing to react.
There's no quick key solution that we can take from this referendum decision.
That would only divide Europe even more.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
Revenge.
Yeah, revenge is the German way.
And the French way.
And the French.
Oh, the French.
Oh, yeah.
The French are kick-ass.
We always forget that because, you know, World War II kind of covered up the fact that they're probably meaner than anyone.
Made them look bad.
The optics weren't too good.
Well, for my money, I think...
There's a lot of things in play.
The fact that Cameron has said, hey, I'm not going to sail this ship.
I'm not going to captain this ship.
Y'all go find somebody else to do that.
Where someone has to officially evoke Article 50 and get this thing moving.
And typical EU... But the policy, very much like the Dutch referendum against the Ukraine Association Agreement, is thanks for your vote.
Holland, you have a problem with ratifying and you haven't decided yet whether you're going to listen to the people.
It doesn't matter.
We're just going to continue anyway.
We don't need that 28th of the 27 votes.
So I'm thinking they'll probably say, you know what, we're just going to move forward.
Article 50, it's as good as done.
We're starting to move ahead.
It's just the technicality.
I think that's what it'll come down to.
Yeah.
But Britain can reclaim itself, the United Kingdom.
Well, it depends on how long...
With a duo.
They're going to have to...
Yes, and that's probably...
That's what our basic thesis is.
Yeah.
I would say that...
Otherwise, you're going to have to deal with the separation of Northern Ireland and Scotland.
And the Scots, as far as I'm concerned, they should get rid of those two countries.
The Scots are the worst.
They're disagreeable.
They don't do anything that Brits want to do.
I mean, Northern Ireland's had a long history of this, but the Scots are the worst.
They voted the other way, of course.
They want to redo their split-off vote.
I mean, first they voted to stay with England, and then now they disagree with some, so they want to split off again.
Who needs these people?
Trump.
Yeah, with Trump.
Yeah, Trump needs him.
And they're the ones, by the way, mostly behind the...
Well, Scotland has a lot of resources that would be an issue.
The oil, mainly.
Yeah, the oil.
That's the problem.
That's the problem with Scotland.
But they, eh, so what?
The British have still the banking.
As long as they don't lose their banking sector, they'd be fine.
But the Scots are the ones behind the Trump, keep Trump out of the country to make sure he's, you know, ban him from the island.
If you listen to the, I listened to the House, the Parliament's debate on Trump.
And they, it was mostly Scots.
Thank you.
What I will say to our friends in the United Kingdom, still Gitmo Nation East.
If you are forced into a do-over or some other version of not what the people voted for, pay close attention about what you can and cannot say in the European Union.
What you can and cannot do.
This flows right into hate speech and intolerance.
You can't write Muslim suck on Twitter.
You will be arrested in the UK. And that, my friends, is the real reason...
We have guns in the United States.
That ensures our power as citizens.
You may not like what I'm saying, you may disagree with it, but I'm pretty sure we have not been mangled into the societies that I see in Europe and have witnessed and lived in, because ultimately, with 300 million guns, yeah, there's a lot of accidents that happen, bad stuff that happens, but it probably keeps us safe from...
What some people will call the tyrannical government.
But you don't have to be tyrannical just to tell people that, hey, you can't say that or I'm going to arrest you.
Or, I'm sorry, your vote doesn't count.
It doesn't matter what you said.
I think it's an important distinction.
Well, I'm glad you're...
NRA, Curry, Adam at Curry.com, he's looking for a consulting gig.
I'd just take some donations from him.
Okay, well the NRA should give us donations after that little spiel.
We need to use a different word than divorce, though.
I don't like the divorce.
Divorce.
That's not going to happen.
I know what we call it.
Circumcision.
Circumcision.
Briss.
Okay.
The brisket.
Yeah.
Branding is my middle name.
You want to take a break?
Yeah.
I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C., where the C stands for Carnal Cash Dvorak.
In the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
Also in the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air.
Subs in the water!
And all the dames and knights out there.
In the morning, everybody in the chat room.
Record numbers today, John.
We have more than Twit usually has.
Record numbers in the chat room and on the stream.
Good to see y'all here.
NoagendaStream.com.
You're monitoring it?
Yeah, and everyone's civil and...
It's good.
I'm liking it.
Very nice.
Also, I would like to thank all of our artists, but in particular, I'd like to thank Mark G. Once again, he is back.
And Mark G. brought us the artwork for episode 836, Proof She's Human was the title of it.
And the artwork that he brought us so expertly was...
It was kind of a compilation piece.
It was like a swirling, you know, tornado as looked at from space with the British flag in there.
It was nice.
It was, you know, conceptual.
It was a nice piece.
A flying saucer to me.
Yeah.
A flying saucer.
Okay.
Also good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nice.
That's what I was thinking.
Alright.
Noagendaartgenerator.com.
That's what I was going to say.
Sorry.
Yeah.
We actually have not been getting as much art as we'd like.
Yeah.
So...
Benjamin Oliver starts to listen.
He's a member of the 837 Club, which is rare to have membership in the show number clubs much.
And so we thank him for that.
He's with a $837 donation.
And he writes, is this where I donate to get on the no-fly watch list?
We have to talk about this for a moment.
One of our producers, who sent in a donation for...
We need to talk about this.
People, please listen to what Adam's about to say.
He sent in a donation, and the donation note said, hey, thank you so much for finally giving me an explanation why our president says ISIS, or ISIL, and we all say ISIS. And the reason, of course, is it's the Levant, which includes Israel, and Israel, be on the lookout, you might get screwed.
So he put that in his donation note.
And so we got a note from PayPal, which is all automated, by the way.
Not a single person, I don't think, had been involved in this email exchange.
They said, hey, we have a problem.
We need to know why this specific amount.
And I think he did 4175 or something because it was the...
The letters ISIL on the keypad.
And so, why this amount specifically, and why, and please explain the line, and it had this line about ISIS-ISIL. Then it's all because of compliance.
You know, compliance with the Office of Foreign Financial Assistance, which is the Treasury, which is making sure you're not sending money to the terrorists, which would, in this case, the No Agenda show would be suspected of that.
Yeah.
Even though this will get cleared up, we're definitely on the list.
Please don't do this.
Don't put the trigger words in there.
It's obvious.
Well, I don't know what list we're on, but it's definitely not the thing to do because it's going to get stopped and the money will not come to us.
No.
It's just because you're using these words.
And just be careful what you write.
Sorry, but this is not the U.S. mail where you can write anything you want.
It's protected to some extent.
All this electronic stuff is all spied upon by all kinds of people at different levels.
I'm sure NSA had a copy of that note.
But this was still automatic.
I mean, that's what was interesting.
Yeah.
pretty weak by the way because we get a lot of people writing stuff without the actual trigger words yeah so anyway can i please get a brexit special jingle run uh which includes uh fuck the eu we're all gonna die stop rafting rafting so That's what he wants for, his jingle run.
And he says he's also a knight, so he'll be knighted.
And also, we haven't had one of these in a long time.
He'll be the sole member of the 837 Club, which has not happened in a long time.
We're all going to die!
Don't laugh.
Why are you laughing?
Shut up.
You've got karma.
Now, I have a problem with the next donation, and I'll explain why.
This is one of our regular donors.
He's a very famous knight in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
$333.33.
He does want some karma, sunshine, and smoothies.
Wait, I think you skipped over...
I'm sorry.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
My mistake is an email.
I didn't realize.
I'm sorry.
He said in his email he wants to be anonymous for this donation.
It was awkward the way he said it because it's like he's got a note.
He wants to be anonymous.
And I'm thinking, well, he's not anonymous.
We know who he is.
But I put it in abeyance.
If he straightens this out, I will read this note, which is an email note, on the next show.
But it was confusing the way he wrote his email.
And I want to respect him.
He wants to be anonymous.
Maybe for some reason right now.
I don't know.
Maybe he's...
I don't know.
It's all I know.
It's confusing.
And so we will give him a karma.
And then we'll move on to the more interesting note, actually.
You've got karma.
3-3-3-3-3.
Thank you very much.
And we'll work it out.
All right, Peter White in Cambridgeshire, Great Britain, 3-3-3-3-3.
Yay, Brexit.
Please finally knight me, as this donation should take me way beyond the $1,000 mark.
Sir Peter White, Knight of Cambridge, and the, what is it, the Fens?
Fens, you know what that might mean?
I have no idea.
UK, if it is not...
I don't know.
Well, we'll night in that and figure it out later.
I've been listening to every show since number one.
Timing is everything, and so now it seemed like a right time to step up.
Hopefully you Yanks will welcome us to the USA when we arrive July 22nd at Boston for a great tour of the United States.
The Fens, also known as the Fenlands, naturally marshy region in eastern England.
Oh, the Fens.
The Fens, yes.
Yes, it's true here on the ground.
I've been completely open about voting Brexit in my champagne socialist neighborhood in Cambridgeshire.
Unless and until I make my views clear, it is assumed that I'm a racist.
Yeah, racist.
Old racist.
The talk is that the petition reaching 2 million signatures will trigger a second referendum.
What bullshit.
Mm-hmm.
Another big theme is that we should never have had this referendum as we, the people, are not qualified to decide on such complex matters of national importance.
More utter bullshit.
Unfortunately, oops, whoops, I just lost my cursor.
Unfortunately, the Brexit is in many ways a revolution to replace one elite by another elite.
But at least we can replace our elected representatives, which is exactly what we can do in the EU. Yay, Brexit.
Please finally knight me as this donation should take me beyond the $1,000 mark.
Sir Peter White Knight of Cambridge and the Fens.
It's not taken.
And thank you very much.
We appreciate that.
I wouldn't think so.
Viscount Rolf Nellison in Aachen, Deutschland.
Aachen.
$250.
Thanks for show 837 on Sunday.
Hi, John and Adam.
A little donation I'd like to have a birthday call out.
He's got that.
My main protectorate, neutral MorrisNet.
Turns 200 on 26, 2016.
Oh, okay.
Unfortunately, it ceased to exist at the end of World War I in 1919, but that still means it lasted longer than the Soviet Union.
Keep up the good work and many thanks, Viscount Natural Morissette in Germany without Bavaria.
P.S. I just like Baron better than Viscount.
Nice.
Okay.
Thank you very much.
Dame Francine, give him some karma.
You got it.
Karma coming your way.
You've got karma.
*music* Dame Francine Hardaway in Phoenix, Arizona.
Is she in Phoenix?
Yes, she is.
$250.
She was at the event at Sparks Restaurant in New York.
Yeah.
I always thought she was a New Yorker.
She may be.
I think she relocated to Phoenix.
I don't think she's native to Phoenix.
I was going to donate to 837 today, even before I got your email, because I realized at this historic moment, you'll be the guys I would most want to hear discuss it.
P.S. The Unclaimed Property Division of Arizona just found $4,600 in an old bank account of mine from 20 years ago.
Everyone should go to missingmoney.com and check on themselves.
Yes, I do this commonly, too.
Not necessarily with them.
There's other outlets.
Yeah, we've discussed it on the show.
It was $100 for me.
I found $100.
There's money.
You know, I don't even want to discuss it.
Cold, hard cash.
Sir Simon Bennett in Ipswich, Suffolk.
Hold on, let me give Dame Francine a little karma.
Oh, yes.
It's nice to have her back, absolutely.
You've got karma.
Simon Bennett, Nipswich, Suffolk, UK. $250.
It's been a while since I coughed up some support for the Brexit result.
Gave me that gentle nudge I needed to level up.
The Brexit result also gives me hope for the future of my country as long as I stay out of face bag.
OMG! Plus, not being on Facebook, I'm assuming there's a lot of interesting chatter on those.
Everybody's an expert.
That's what it is.
Everybody's an expert.
Plus, there's all that additional show material that we all know is coming.
Thanks for all you do.
Give him a karma.
You betcha.
You've got karma.
Okay.
Okay.
Sir Bernie Atima.
23456 from Hinton, Iowa.
My son, he's got a birthday call.
I also hit my good friend Vladimir Landman from Sioux City, Iowa in the mouth last year.
And he's been donating $50 each month for the last several months and requested a dedouching, which I think was missed.
So please dedouching.
You've been dedouched.
With the 4th of July imminent, please play the Gitmo Nation National Anthem.
Now we're at the end of the show.
God's blessing, Sir Bernie.
Okay, we'll put it at the end of the show.
Okay, now we've got one of these hugely long notes, which makes it almost impossible to read on my thing.
Tony Cabrera in Hawthorne, California.
I think I may have missed one here.
Did I miss...
Let me see.
Sir Rod Adams.
Sir Rod Adams.
Yes.
I can't see...
It's Sir Rod that overwrote.
So let's start reading his note.
How much did he donate?
I don't have that on my...
$200.
Associate Executive Producer.
It's been a long while since I've contributed either money or news, so I'm still listening and enjoying, but it's been a busy time recently.
It keeps me meaning to get around to donating and then wake up on shows, they realize I've missed another...
12 a.m.
deadline.
I did that again, but if you happen to check your PayPal records, you can slide me in for this late associate producer mentioned for today's show.
No problem.
Especially for nights we do this.
In addition to some important new pieces on atomic insights about the importance of nuclear energy for human prosperity, I've recently become a contributing author at Forbes.
My first month of piecesofforbes.com has been included in news about important paper on the health effects of low-level radiation, the corrupt deal made between PG&E, NRDC, and FOE to close Diablo Canyon well before it's close to the end of its useful life.
And predictions about the effect of Brexit on the UK's nuclear energy industry.
And we'd like to congratulate Sir Rod with that first and foremost.
That's great to have a shield at Fortune.
Yes.
Hey, can you have him not block me if I have my ad blocker on?
Put me on the white list?
Yeah.
You can get...
There's ways of getting through that.
Anyway, P.S. Now about the...
He said thanks for the good work.
Now about the peeves part.
Okay, here we go.
So he's got a gripe.
So let's hear him out.
John has made several very bigoted comments on at least two different shows about officers in the U.S. Navy.
Apparently his opinion is based on a brief encounter with a single poor example when he was an air pollution inspector many decades ago.
As a retired U.S. naval officer, I retired in 2010 as a commander.
We spent 33 years living and working with naval officers.
I'm annoyed.
Annoyed!
It would be difficult to find better examples of dedicated, intelligent, interesting, hardworking, patriotic leaders anywhere.
My daughter and her husband are both lieutenant commanders.
My grandfather was lieutenant commander in the U.S. Navy in World War II. Oh.
Was he a captain?
Lieutenant commander.
No, captain of a ship.
You can be a lieutenant commander and be a captain.
No, he was lieutenant commander.
No captain.
He did not steer the ship.
Anyway, he goes on.
I just want to stop here because it's as far as we need to really go.
What was his problem?
What did you say?
What were you so bigoted about?
I said they're a-holes.
Captains of most of these ships are a-holes.
They act like a-holes.
They're arrogant, condescending jerks.
Now, Now, Rod here seems to have a, being in the Navy, Navy man, although I don't know he was ever a captain of a ship.
Rod, I think Rod was the commander of a submarine.
Oh, okay.
Well, then he'd be a captain of the, if he was, if he was the boss.
He is the captain of my ship.
Um...
First of all, what I was bitching about about the Navy guys is that they're condescending and arrogant.
So, let's see what he says.
Oh, let me read this.
Apparently his opinion is based on a brief encounter with a single poor example when he was an air pollution inspector.
That's an interesting assumption to make.
How about like 25 guys?
I was an air pollution inspector for almost eight years.
I ran into these Navy guys over and over and over again.
It's very condescending on you to assume that it was one example that I'm generalizing from.
I'm generalizing from 20 plus examples.
Every one of these guys, now most of them I have to say were like commander, rank of commander, but they're captains of an oiler or some piece of crap that they used to park out here in the San Francisco Bay.
They'd always blow their stacks illegally at noontime, which is a good time.
You're still working, but they thought everyone's at lunch, so let's do it then.
Then you go on board, they roll their eyes, oh, another government goon coming on just to give me a ticket.
And it was over and over again extreme arrogance.
I brought it up to the rank and file of the group, many of whom were ex-Navy.
One guy in particular, one of the hotshots, was a chief petty officer at the time when he was in the Navy.
And he said, oh yeah, those guys are all like that.
They're all a bunch of arrogant assholes.
And that's where this comes from.
It doesn't come from...
And again, this is very condescending.
It does not come from a single poor example.
And this is, all you're doing, Rod, is reflecting what I'm talking about.
Because that is extremely condescending to say that I'm bringing it up as a generality from a single poor example.
This is not a single example.
Done.
And thanks for your contribution, Sir Rod.
Wow.
Better give him some karma.
He needs a big heap of karma now.
Dang.
You've got karma.
Well, my experience with Lieutenant Commanders was fine.
I love my grandfather.
He was great.
But he didn't drive the ship, nor did he park it.
There's nothing like someone railing against the Navy.
Part of that is they parked the ship.
It's just, you know, more, maybe, but park.
I think even...
That was great.
I love it.
I don't know this for sure, but I think they still have to use pilots, even the Navy.
Unless they have Navy pilots that...
Well, you know what?
But I will...
In Rod's defense...
Military in general, along with police, even EMS, fire, all these types of services are no longer kept or put on the pedestal the way they used to be and the way I believe most of them deserve to be.
So there's a constant pounding against all things military.
And I'm happy that when he needed to vent, he vented in the family.
That makes me happy.
Yeah, it's fine.
Yeah.
I mean, if it's everybody in his family, they're all Navy, yeah.
I mean, I know a lot of Navy guys that are fantastic.
And as an aside, and I said that purposely, It took me several years to understand.
Is that on our list?
It took me several years to get used to your critiques.
Sometimes after the show, you'll go, well, this is stupid.
I don't like that.
Never do this.
And instead of, I had to learn.
No, no, no, no, no.
Don't tell me.
It's my personal experience.
It's my experience.
It took me a while to learn that You know, that doesn't mean that you're mad at me for the rest of the day or anything.
It's like we vent, we're done, we move on.
It's been the same conversation.
Okay, we're done.
Agree, disagree.
Point, counterpoint.
Can be loud, can be vocal, can contain F-words, and we're done and we move on.
And I like that a lot, by the way.
If only the world were like that.
Hey, this is bullcrap, I don't think it's...
And okay, good, we're done.
Move on.
We're pros.
Yeah, well, that's how pros operate.
And we move on to Tony Cabrera from Hawthorne, California.
Well, on the topic of moving on, $200.
And he says, in the morning from Tony, the brand new NoAgendaShop.com.
Ooh!
Oh, hold on a second.
I hadn't seen that.
No Agenda says, I contacted you guys a while ago about a website I've been slaving away over for a few weeks now.
I can finally announce it's ready for you and your No Agenda community to check out online.
It currently consists of some brand new promotional apparel I designed for the show.
Nice hat!
Make No Agenda great again?
No!
That's the one I want.
Make No Agenda great again.
It looks nice.
It looks nice.
Okay, promotional material designed for the show with plans for more in the weeks ahead.
Best wishes to you both, and I hope you make you guys proud by helping No Agenda fans like myself propagate the formula to new audiences everywhere we go.
And don't worry, I'll make sure No Agenda doesn't end up like No Agenda stickers did, which is a sore point now.
Chinese porn site.
This is nice.
I like the logo, but I like the hoodies, t-shirts.
Nice.
Hey, Tony.
Stickers.
Stickers, Tony.
Tony, Tony, stickers.
Tony, Tony, Tony.
It's an interesting logo he's come up with.
I haven't seen...
Is this our logo?
This is very interesting.
What is it?
Well, go to noagendershop.com.
Look at the logo.
Our logo is actually the official logo.
We don't really have an official logo, but the microphone one is the one that became the official logo.
This is the N and the O. It's very, very interesting.
I don't know who designed this, but I like it.
I think he did.
NoagendaShop.com is that what it is?
Yeah, what a great domain name, too.
Oh, what am I getting there?
Am I getting blocked, or what's the deal?
No.
Agenda shop?
Mm-hmm.
dot com click click click click click click click click not working Yeah, it came up.
Oh, that's interesting.
Huh.
33% of all...
That's a very creative logo.
I like it.
33% of all...
Oh, check this out.
On his About page, here's how it works.
Um, 33% of the sales go to No Agenda Shop, 33% go to the No Agenda Show, and 33% go to the artist whose work was used.
Wow.
Well...
Well, that's fantastic.
John's going, wait, wait.
No, no, I'm not going, wait, wait.
I just know when I hear that split, I'm going, oh, this is going to be interesting how to make money.
How to make money.
Well, they're not cheap.
There's some expensive items.
Well, that probably helps.
But maybe good quality.
I like the no agenda hat.
Okay.
And that concludes our little group of producers, executive producers, and the associate executive producers for show 837.
I want to remind people we do have another show coming up on Thursday, a few days away.
And that will be show 838.
And go to Dvorak.org slash NA to get on board with some additional help.
And, of course, these are executive producers and our associate executive producers, including one member of the 837 Club.
These are real credits.
We treat them as such with respect and put them right up there at the front of the show with our own donation segment.
More coming when we get to our donation thank you segment later on in the program.
As John just said, we do have another show coming up on Thursday.
Dvorak.org slash N-A And even if you are a sub in the water, lieutenant commander, or a captain, propagate the formula!
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Hey, citizens.
Shut up, slaves!
Shut up, slaves!
Yowza.
And by the way, talking about Navy personnel.
You're real heavy on the by the ways today.
Oh.
Jeez.
I put that high on the list.
That's terrible.
Anyways.
Also blame the movies.
I mean, you got...
Mr.
Roberts, great movie that depicts the captain of that ship as a complete a-hole.
And then there's the one where Humphrey Bogart plays the maniac, the psycho, which for some reason eludes me, the name of it.
I have to take two vitamin B-12s.
I'm not the only one who's seen Navy captains as...
No, we got your points.
It's okay.
The rant was good.
Okay, I don't want to ruin it.
No, please.
Okay, onward.
Now, do we want to continue to talk about the Brexit?
Do we have any more points?
I'm kind of done.
I'm kind of done with the Brexit for now.
Unless there's anything really important.
Yeah, you can play this one.
This is France 24.
We didn't play any of their clips.
They had an Oxford professor on the show.
It kind of explained the way he saw things, and he was pretty reasonable, and the French girl was kind of, like, befuddled by the whole thing.
This is France 24 on dumb Brits.
My view is that, yes, we didn't win on that one.
And the other issues he put on the table were important issues.
The immigration issue was important.
And I, for example, do believe that if the EU had shown a little bit more flexibility and thought of the possibility, say, of adding a subparagraph to Article 45 of the treaty, which deals with the movement, free movement, If it had said, look, actually, we'll have a second paragraph.
We said, and member states may, under certain circumstances, introduce their own domestic measures without prejudice to the principles of this article.
The emergency breaks that David Cameron got for seven years.
He didn't get an emergency break.
For a period of seven years, he could limit social welfare benefits to workers.
What he did not get was the right to control immigration.
He got the right to vary welfare benefits and so on.
And I just think that...
It's not just for the UK. I just think there are countries around Europe who would have benefited from a little bit more flexibility in the interpretation of Article 45.
Well, those days, that's gone now.
But when you look, a lot of people...
What is Article 45?
That's the free, you can go anywhere you want.
Ah, freedom of movement.
Gotcha.
And you look, a lot of people are saying, you know, are these immigrants to the UK necessarily a bad thing?
They pay more in taxes than they take in benefits.
It's sheer numbers.
It's sheer numbers.
Do you know what we are now?
We have had, in the last ten years, four or five million extra people in this country.
Not all.
Not all, by the way.
But how many people have left?
Oh, no, no.
I'm talking about net population increase.
Now, that's not all from immigration.
I mean, births.
I mean, basically, population, as you know, is births, deaths, plus or minus immigration.
That's how you calculate.
But, you know, there's no way this country can handle that sort of thing.
If we had, if France had population density levels the same as we have, you would have 100 million people extra in France.
That is the reality.
So something had to change.
But Will, leaving the...
Anyway, I don't know where dumb Brits are, but this was one of the complaints I... One of the complaints I heard over and over, which is that the guy, that there was just too many, it was, it was not, the guy, one guy said, look, we could have 50,000 doctors coming over, but there's no place to put them.
There's not, we'd have to, we can't build hospitals fast enough to put the doctor, give them anything to do.
And it was just an overload, which is again, what David Brooks said too, it was just an overload.
That was the immigration problem.
It wasn't who they were, it was the sheer number.
It's also who they were.
But there's an element of that.
I don't know why they don't like the Polish, but it seems that they don't.
Well, because many, many reasons.
Many reasons.
The main reason, true or not, is the Polish are taking away the cheap labor market.
That's what they say.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, it's still quite...
I think the whole thing is definitely something to discuss.
I'll say.
Okay.
Can we move to a new topic?
Yeah, if you want.
Yeah.
Judge Andrew Napolitano Fox said something.
He was on Outnumbered.
That's the show where there's one guy and a whole bunch of women.
Which I like.
This is crazy.
Talk about a sexist idea.
I like the show.
Of course, if you did Outnumbered and did it the other way around, it would be World War III. That would actually be funnier.
Or have one black person surrounded by whites.
Different versions of the show.
It's not a bad format.
He said something about the Orlando shooting.
I had to go back and really study what he was talking about to see if I agreed with his assertion.
Here's the clip.
How many omissions were there?
Were there one?
Well, then it could explain that one-off scenario that they originally talked about.
It's nearly impossible to tell.
This is not a one-off.
Right.
These are in two parts.
There's an actual transcript and then there's a summary of the rest.
Here's what's news in the summary.
Nobody died until 5.13 in the morning when the SWAT team entered.
Prior to that, no one had been killed.
The 53 that were injured and the 49 that were murdered all met their fates at the time of and during the police entry into the building.
Wow.
What?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I went back and got...
Now, this was...
We, by the way...
And I'll take credit for this.
You said, by the way.
I've always thought the police killed most of the people.
Yeah, we've said this several times.
Yeah.
Yeah, we talked about it, but this is ridiculous.
Nobody died.
This, by the way, right there.
Yeah.
Since we changed topics and the whole thing, you did a good job of transitioning.
Yeah.
Yeah, what?
What?
What?
This, by the way, what?
Yeah, you know what?
You know what?
I like the way you stop.
Nobody died until 5.13 in the morning when the SWAT team entered.
So I went back and I had to look at the timeline from the official, the redacted and the other transcript.
You really have to put the two together.
You might as well play that clip that I had of the shootings, the bullets, all those bullets that went off at once during that one guy was recording the SWAT team shootings.
Yeah, I don't know what it was called.
Yeah.
Well, I went back and I looked at the transcript, and I'm trying to figure out how Napolitano came to this conclusion.
Here's the timeline.
I'm reading directly from the document.
It's marked up in the show notes, 837.noagendanotes.com.
At 2.02 a.m., Orlando Police Department called, transmitted, multiple shots fired at Pulse nightclub.
Two minutes later...
Certainly not time enough to kill 49 people.
At 2.04 a.m., additional OPD officers arrive on scene.
2.08 a.m., officers from various law enforcement agencies made entrance to Pulse and engaged the shooter.
Then at 2.18, so that must have been 10 minutes there.
Then there's a whole bunch.
Then there's the phone call, and then there's some transcripts.
2.48, the first crisis negotiation call for nine minutes.
3.03, the second call.
3.24, the third crisis call.
In these calls, he identified himself.
So they were on the phone with him continuously from 2.48, continuing until 5...
14 a.m.
This is if their timeline is correct, which I'm going to presume it is.
Just before that, they pulled the air conditioner and they started saving people.
And then at 4.29, the shooter said he was going to put four vests with bombs on victims within the next 15 minutes.
He said there's a car outside that's going to blow up.
And then at 5.02 a.m., OPD SWAT OCSO Hazardous Device Team started to breach the wall with explosive charge.
Armored vehicle to make entry.
5.14 AM, OPD Radio Communications stated that shots were fired.
So there was between 5.02 when they breached the wall and 5.14, shots were being fired.
Here it is.
Here's the line that makes all of this, because you just don't know what was happening in between the timeline entry points.
Based on Orlando Police Department radio communications, there were no reports of shots being fired inside Pulse between the initial exchange of gunfire between responding officers and shooter and the time of the final breach.
During this time, the shooter communicated with an OPD 911 operator, an OPD crisis negotiator, and OPD radio communications reported that victims were being rescued.
So they're saying that from the time they engaged the shooter, Two, when they killed him, no shots were fired at all.
Do I think the judge has a point here?
I think he may have the whole thing there.
Yeah.
So, you know, somebody's got some explaining to do on that.
Oh, that's not going to happen.
And also, just finally, there were multiple reports that Omar Mateen was frantically searching the internet for psychosis, results of psychotic drugs, etc., etc.
So, as we always see, or almost always see in these types of events, When you have an SSRI involved, it's stuff that makes people really nutty.
Going back to Columbine, a lot of these shooters are on psychotropic drugs.
Something.
Which is a real problem.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's dynamite.
Yeah.
You won't hear that anyplace else.
That's the way you heard it on Fox.
I mean, it's not as though nobody's heard this, but nobody else will propagate it.
And it makes sense to me.
I said this when I had that clip of those shootings.
All that gunfire, it was thousands of bullets flying around.
If you were in there, you were going to get hit by something.
There was just too much going on.
I don't want to sound like a jerk about the police, but I can almost imagine in some jurisdictions that, you know, say, hey, we're going to go shoot some gays.
Reminds me of a clip.
I gotta play this for you.
So you said famously at this point a few shows ago, you talked about the gays.
Which Donald Trump, you know, obviously a listener, picked up the gays.
And...
Milo, the gay Republican from Britain.
How could you get any crazier?
He's crazy, that guy.
He is a really good public speaker.
Yes.
Well, here he is on...
One of my gripes, of course, is this whole...
The president just...
We bestowed the Stonewall as a national monument.
Stonewall is where there were riots and gays, lesbians, transsexuals were killed there.
And so now this is now a national monument.
And then it's always for the LGBT community.
And I have a huge issue with that, because first of all, it's exclusionary, because LGBT would be lesbian, gay, bisexual, and trans.
Where's the bicurious?
Where's the queer?
Where's all that other stuff?
I mean, it does not sum up everybody.
It just doesn't sum everybody up.
And within these groups, there's all kinds of issues amongst themselves.
They are far from an actual community.
Like, well, I'll tell you in a second.
Here's Milo with what you should really say instead of LGBT or LGBTQ or LGBTQIAAP. He suggests we don't use that phrase, the LGBTQ community.
What is wrong with you?
Just call them gays.
Just say the gays.
After you appeal to the gays.
Or you can call them queers.
You can call them chutney punchers.
You can call them bum bandits.
You can call them any number of things.
We do not use the phrase LGBTQ community.
My God!
There you have it.
From the gay himself.
Proof.
I'll have to tell this to my critics.
And just one more thing about the word community.
No agenda is a community.
But if you looked at all the people individually...
No way would they fit in the classic sense of the word community.
We have different ages, different races, different beliefs, different religions, different political views.
All kinds.
Very, very different.
But the community comes around one particular...
It's the show, really.
The community comes around.
And that is a true community where we're not all, you know, a version of homosexual.
So I agree.
This community is overused.
What is the definition of community, really?
Why don't you look that up while I ask the rhetorical question.
This is gay day here, or the weekend, the gay pride weekend.
And it started off on Friday with the transgender march, and then there was a gay pride parade.
What was Obama doing in town?
Was he in town?
He was in town on Friday, as far as I know.
Celebrating.
I think he left on Saturday, but he was here for some reason or other.
Definition of community.
A group of people who live in the same area, city, town, or neighborhood.
Yes, I think that is a classic definition.
A group of people who have the same interests, race, religion, etc.
Yes, but LGBT, the L, the B, the G, and the T, all have different interests.
It could also be a group of nations or a unified body of individuals.
But commonly, it is the people with common interests living in a particular area.
So it doesn't even really fit when you think about it.
Good, because I'm tired of hearing it.
Yeah, you've made that quite clear over the last four or five shows.
Yeah.
But I'm still interested.
Good, I'm glad to hear that.
Alright, I got one.
This is kind of interesting.
One story follows the other on Democracy Now!
I just found this to be a fascinating one-two punch.
This first clip is Sanders' last stand on Homeless Kids.
Bernie Sanders is now out there really ranting about one thing or another that's very important to him.
And I thought this was a good rant.
We cannot allow ourselves to become used to the fact that we got hundreds of thousands of children in this country who are homeless.
That is our greatest danger becoming used to it and thinking that it is normal.
It is not normal.
It is an outrage.
And never, ever lose your sense of outrage.
Now, right after that little spiel, they were talking about Bernie's going out with a bang.
And I thought that was a very good little lecture.
Everyone should pay attention to it.
So then they go on to just a follow-up, because they just do their organization at that place.
The pace and flow is really awkward.
This goes right onto this clip here, which is just like, oh, since we've been talking about elites, let's play this.
Meanwhile, a number of business leaders have come out backing Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.
Among those backers are Facebook, Sheryl Sandberg, and Warren Buffett, as well as the CEOs of General Motors, Delta Airlines, Airbnb, AT&T, and Boeing.
Huh.
Wow.
I give you Bernie Sanders.
Wow.
Oh, gee, that's not just a vocal support, I'm sure.
Wow!
I wonder if there's any money involved in that.
Oh, yes, we need to read this, although you may have already seen it.
We may have talked about it.
If you wanted Hillary Clinton to speak at your bank...
She, you know, they, her agency, her booking agent, which was the Harry Walker agency, is that a literary agent as well?
No, that's the Speaking Bureau.
I actually work for them.
I work for Harry Walker.
Great operation.
Well, sure.
Have you seen this message they send if you want to have her come do a speech for a lot of money?
It's been floating around, yeah.
I got a kick out of it.
So I'll just read a couple of highlights.
I think you should read the whole thing.
It's a dynamite.
Okay.
Well, good.
Now, this...
Interesting about this is the timeline.
This is dated May 31st, 2013.
Only a few months after she left.
She left, of course, in February after the inauguration as Secretary of State.
So this request had already come in.
I'm sure it was not the first one.
So thank you very much for your possible invitation, Secretary Clinton, participating in your upcoming event.
Here's the standard requirements for her appearances.
The fee for this type of event...
Would be $225,000, plus a chartered round-trip private jet, hotel accommodations, ground transportation, any meals and incidentals for Secretary Clinton, her travel aides, and advanced staff, as detailed below.
So let's take a look at these.
Air transportation.
The host will be responsible for the costs associated with a chartered round-trip private air transportation, which must be a Gulfstream 450 or larger.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Wow.
Yeah, that's a nice aircraft.
And listen, I want to stop you right now.
I want to remind people that when Hillary was asked why she got so much money from Goldman Sachs, $225,000 is listed here, why she got so much money, and her answer was, that's what they offered.
No, that is a lie.
That is a lie.
The offer is clearly stated in the letter.
So, the transportation of the jet, which must be paid in advance of the event.
In addition, the host will need to pay for one round-trip first-class airfare between New York and Washington, D.C. for one of Secretary Clinton's travel aides.
Might be UMA. The host will also need to pay for two round-trip business class airfare to and from the event city for two advanced staffers who will arrive in the city of the engagement for up to three business days prior to the event.
Accommodations, hotel accommodations, which will be the ones identified by Secretary Clinton's staff.
Accommodations should include a presidential suite for Secretary Clinton, then up to three adjoining or contiguous single rooms for her travel aids, and up to two additional single rooms for the advanced staff.
And by the way, for a couple of days, and I said, by the way, damn it!
For, you know, presidential suite.
Yeah, presidential suite is like 30 grand a night.
Certainly if someone else is paying for it.
Then there's meals and incidentals.
So responsible for all ground transportation for the secretary, her aides, and her advance staff as long as, oh, phone charges, cell phones, meals, everything.
And here's a very interesting little ditty.
Transcription.
Transcription.
The host will be responsible for a flat fee of $1,000 for the services of the on-site stenographer, who will be responsible for creating an immediate transcript of Secretary Clinton's remarks.
The agency will coordinate all of the arrangements for the stenographer.
We will be unable to share a copy of the transcript following the event.
So that's nice.
We know that, apparently, transcripts were made.
So here's the itinerary.
She does it two basic blocks when she participates in an event.
Total time, 90 minutes.
30 minute photo line reception, not to exceed 50 photos with up to 100 people.
Move them through.
That's like the Queen.
The Queen of England does that.
Exactly the same.
Then the secretary will hold a 20-minute speech plus a 40-minute moderated Q&A for a total of 60 minutes.
So her speech, should we ever see a transcript, will only be 20 minutes, and it's going to be a stock speech.
Filling in the blanks, different joke at the beginning, different joke in the middle, a different goodbye or transition.
That's the way I see it.
You've done more of these than I have, John.
So I'm saying 20-minute speeches.
What is a 20-minute speech?
My goodness.
Not much of a speech.
We don't even get into the news before 20 minutes of the show is passed.
We do three hours.
So the order of the tiers is up to your preference, but the location of the photo line must be in close proximity to the room where the speech takes place and the two blocks have to be contiguous.
We have limited flexibility with regard to the format for her appearance.
Accordingly, Secretary Clinton will not be able to join for meals or other functions or engagements outside the photo reception, speech, and the Q&A. Which is understandable because, man, is that annoying when you have to do that.
You go to a speech, like, you've got to have dinner with these people.
Then there's some rules about who can introduce her, when the team will show up, and then, you know, please let me know.
But once you're ready to proceed with a formal invitation, please take a moment to complete the attached questionnaire.
Email it back to me.
As I noted earlier, the approval process can take a couple of weeks.
But in order to respond, your invitation...
To ensure this opportunity is considered in a time-efficient manner, it is important that every financial and in-kind sponsor contributing to the fee or receiving a non-financial benefit, for example, getting the opportunity to introduce Secretary Clinton or moderate the Q&A, be submitted during the invitation stage.
So it all has to be...
It's a big proposal.
Now, for celebrities of her stature, she definitely is a celebrity, I think...
It is pretty much on par for a big celebrity who's out to make a crap load of money.
Famously, Bill Cosby would do three events in an evening in New York City.
He would walk from one to the other, and this is now we're talking the 80s.
He would get paid $100,000, go to the next one, turn the chair around, talk for an hour, another $100,000, and he'd do $300,000 in a night.
I don't think it's crazy money in this type of world for a celebrity to be paid that.
But for the amount of work, this of course is what the issue is and what she may or may not have said.
But you're going to find out that most people say, holy crap, really?
20 minutes?
You got paid for this?
Not taking into account the Q&A and whatever else might have gone on.
But there are transcripts, because someone paid $1,000 to have a transcript made, so they definitely are available.
Well, I think it's very high.
You do?
I think it's so high to the point.
Yes, I do.
I think it's to the point.
I mean, yeah.
Well, for a while, Bill Clinton was doing 250 and then all of a sudden he jacked it up to 500.
I think it's God knows what.
There's no doubt in my mind that the amount of money being collected and all the extra work that goes into it, you know, a $30,000 hotel room.
I mean, this is a bribe.
Yeah.
As far as I'm concerned.
Well, I'm not going to disagree.
I'm not going to disagree.
It's just, okay, this is the way she's going to get her money, and it's going to go through Harry Walker.
Harry Walker gets a piece of that.
Absolutely.
And I think most speakers' bureaus take 20%, although they're probably negotiated lower because Hillary needs the money more.
But this is a bribe.
Speaking of bribes, and this may answer some of our questions about elites.
Fifi Lagarde was interviewed on BBC's Hard Talk.
Stop.
Hold on.
She's an elite.
Yes?
I just want to tell you, she's an elite, if you didn't know.
Yes, that's what I said.
She's an elite.
Yes.
And BBC Hard Talk did some hard talk.
Very, very proud of the questions asked.
Because she's not entirely clean.
There's a lot of scandal floating around Miss Lagarde of the International Monetary Fund, who, by the way...
Is the one who quite vocally said, all the economists say, do not leave, do not Brexit.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
Why would you go against all of these different economists?
No, you can't do that.
So, a couple clips.
You say you're trying to do work here at the IMF. You talk about the need for global leadership.
Let me ask you a very personal question.
How much tax do you pay on your salary?
Like all IMF staff members and all World Bank staff members, we are tax-exempt.
And that is taken into account for the purpose.
But I do pay tax, don't worry.
But your salary is tax-exempt.
And I know it's not because you insisted it be that way.
It's always been that way.
Now, do you know why it is taxed?
She's going to explain, but do you have any idea why her salary is taxed?
I'm riveted.
The bottom line is this.
If you are to be a leader on this, and it sounds to me as though you have the passion and you want to be a leader, that's going to have to change.
Aren't you going to have to make a stand and say, you know what, it's not acceptable to be a leader and to send a message which says, oh, well, I want everybody else to pay tax, but actually I don't pay tax.
You should pay tax, shouldn't you?
I tell you, there is...
There is, first of all, I do pay tax in France.
Yeah, but not on your IMF salary, you don't.
On other matters.
On my yacht, tax, horrible real estate tax, it's just disgusting.
I mean, you get a very substantial salary and it's tax-free.
No, Stephen, this is an easy little fight to pick.
I don't know why all international staff people are tax-exempt.
Wherever located in the world, it's to avoid that under the pressure and under the authority of local tax people, then they be asked to move in one direction or the other.
And this tax independence, if you will, is factored in the determination of compensation.
I'm not, you know, arguing for it.
It's been around for 70 years in the case of the IMF, many more years for other institutions.
Should it?
Do you think there's a change?
Otherwise, you fall prey to whatever those local government, where the institutions have a seat, actually decide to do against you.
Yeah, I just wonder whether you can see my point that there is a bit of a perception problem with leaders such as yourself preaching the message that tax avoidance has to end and yet...
Well, the only thing that would be compatible with the principle which is critically important...
That there be no pressure applied by the local authorities where these organizations have their seat would be some international measures that would apply across the board irrespective of the local authorities.
And that's precisely the point that is wrong about taxation, by the way.
Everything is global except tax.
Oh!
Whoa!
Nice little kicker at the end, huh?
Yeah, it's almost like a threat.
So what I'm hearing her saying is...
The IMF, it's kind of saying that people would be corrupted because they might make decisions for or against their own personal situation.
Is that what I understood?
Yeah, I think it was also they could be intimidated.
It would be a form of threat.
It is a form of manipulating them.
Now, let's stop.
Where's the IMF located?
Washington, D.C. If you look at where they're really located, they are very close to the Treasury.
They have eyes on the White House, and they have eight floors underground or something like that.
Some crazy-ass building.
So who is this local authority?
She makes it sound like they've got an office in Podunk, Peru, in the mountains someplace, and the locals are going to take their money, unless they, you know, cough up something.
This is nonsense.
No, but what I like the most is their little kicker at the end.
It's like, oh, this is a problem local tax.
We should have a global tax.
That's what we need.
Yes.
Yeah, well, that's the plan.
Fifi had some problems when she was finance minister to France.
There were some issues about something she did for a buddy of hers.
Right now, a French court has ordered you to face trial on a charge of negligence involving a complicated payment to a leading French businessman during the time you were French finance minister in the administration of Nicolas Sarkozy.
It just strikes me in the context of everything we've discussed about leadership, about integrity, about sending the right messages to the world about the best that global capitalism can be, that it's very difficult for you to continue in this job when you might be summoned to a trial in Paris.
No, it's not.
And I function very well, and I'm very grateful for the trust that has been expressed to me by this unanimous support of the international community.
The court decision has been appealed.
The matter will take its course.
The lawyers are doing their job.
I know that there is nothing wrong that will be held against me.
Okie dokie.
You're starting to get a picture of why people don't like the elites.
Now, to top...
Libley says, oh no, no problem.
It's almost like the guy in the Monty Python movie.
No, just a scratch.
Just a silly walk.
His arm is chopped off.
Just a scratch.
Now, to compete with your outstanding Hillary Clinton find...
So I made a mistake.
That happens.
It proves I'm human.
Yeah, which of course proves she's a lizard.
Now, do you think Lagarde is a lizard?
Oh, definitely.
You said not so long ago that you need a skin as thick as an old crocodile to do this job.
What did you mean by that skin as thick as an old crocodile?
Well, over the course of time you have to learn how to greet your teeth and smile.
Don't let the bastards get you.
And that's what I mean by having a thick crocodile skin.
But the nice thing is that you can take it off.
She can take it off.
I want to thank Joong Lee Jat, by the way, our producer, for putting this together for me.
He did the clips and everything.
I tightened up a couple of them, but it was great.
Really appreciated.
Excellent.
Here's the final one.
This is, well, this is regarding the Panama Papers.
Boston Consulting Group reckoned that private wealth booked in offshore centers grew by 7% in 2014, this is going back a bit, to reach $11 trillion.
So that's money that is not being taxed, that is not going through the state national governments to pay for roads and hospitals and education because it is being squirreled away offshore and tax is not being paid.
Is it, in your view, time to get together with national governments, with leaders around the world to close down the offshore, highly secretive tax havens, whether they be in the Caribbean, the Channel Islands, statelets in Europe, wherever they may be?
You know, I remember 2010 when I was finance minister for France and together with the president at the time, we launched that campaign and it was a very difficult one of trying to eradicate some of those tax heavens.
Well, thus far, it has to be said, a total and utter failure.
No, I disagree with you.
I disagree with you, I'll tell you why.
Because many governments, not all, but many governments at the time endorsed the project and said, okay, we need to deal with this.
And what is called the BEPS, which is this funny, not so funny, base erosion and profit shifting project has been undertaken, has been endorsed by many economies, applies to corporates in the main, and I think that's an area where it needs to be made universal.
As should be made universal, the automatic exchange of information between countries.
But the problem of it is that everybody has to be part of it.
Because if you have little holes in the system, well, you know, creative thinkers and tax optimizers, and there are plenty of those, and they have great minds and great imaginations, will find ways to those holes.
It needs global leadership, doesn't it?
It needs to be totally comprehensive and it needs to include the implementation arm of it.
Because I'll tell you, we are doing a lot of work in that area when we do technical assistance on anti-money laundry.
New world order!
Global taxes!
Global financial system!
Yeah, that's going to be a while.
Yeah, but at least you know where the elites are really headed, what they're thinking.
Of course.
Dole needs a little piece of that action.
It's a matter of stealing money from the public.
Anyway, I think we need to take a break.
Yeah, we need to take a break.
We need to take a break.
And our breaks are where we thank people who supported our program.
We support it with monetary because we do not take advertising money.
We also don't have to sell products to you in order to make money.
I told folks we were going to sell out of Living Defense, which is the ultimate parasite detoxer with 27 known ingredients to flush out safely and healthily parasites, you name it.
I'm going to show myself by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
You have a number of people to thank, and let's start thanking them.
We're starting with Oyst.
This is Oysten, I think.
Oystenberg.
It says Rottendam.
I don't know why it says that, but Rotterdam.
Oystein Berge. Oystein Berge. Oystein Berge. Berge. Berge. Oystein Berge.
Okay.
Rottendam.
Rotterdam, not Rottendam.
It says Rottendam on here.
All right, fine.
What am I supposed to say?
I'm just reading it.
Oh, that's absolutely right.
Sir Josh Mandel in Grotten Dam.
Hey, that dam is falling apart.
Sir Josh Mandel in Greenville, South Carolina, $111.11.
You guys have constantly, constantly excellent analysis.
Admittedly, too easy to take it for granted, but thanks for soldiering on and producing such an excellent show.
Oh.
Thank you.
Merci, Buckets.
Mercy Buckets.
He asked for a...
Well, I'll just do this since I have it.
He asked for a...
What does he say here?
A cylinder of excellence in a Donald Trump jobs karma.
Oh, yes.
Jobs.
Jobs.
And jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Wow!
Yeah.
Who did that?
You didn't do it.
No, no, no.
One of our producers.
Very good.
Very good.
Because it's the timing.
It's bing, bing, bing.
It's fantastic.
Yeah.
And it had the fourth jobs in there, which is what she said, and jobs.
And jobs.
Yeah, it was good.
That was absolutely beautiful.
Beautiful.
That's going to be a keeper.
Sir EGS of Windsor in Windsor, Berkshire, UK, $111.11.
Well, all I can say is, as a Brexter, fuck the EU, he says.
By the way, it was Chris...
I forgot who did the Trump thing for me.
He'll give us more stuff for sure.
That's too good for him not to produce more.
Wesley Walker in Pacifica, California, $100.
Richard Riley in Loomis, California, $100.
Kevin Grant in Vancouver, British Columbia.
Uh-oh.
You okay?
Yeah, I'm fine.
It's just the thing fell over.
The thing?
Yeah, the rain stick.
Your Zimmer frame?
Your Zimmer frame?
My Zimmer thing.
Kevin Grant, Vancouver, 8370.
Sir Vasquez in Denver, Colorado, 8370.
Joseph Gazz in Wilmington, Delaware, 808.
That's boobs.
Ah, you've had an Easter egg.
I had the Easter egg and look at all the people that found it.
Christopher Gray, 80.08 in Grand Blanc, Michigan.
Eric Asbury in Dundin, Florida, 50.08.
Joel Blazik in Reno, California, 80.08.
Sorry, 80.08 for Eric.
Yeah, it was, I had the Sarah Silverman clip and so I said, there's a perfect place for boob.
She went on and on about it in one of her Twitter things.
Yeah, good one.
Yeah, I figured somebody could click on that.
Wesley Forney in Las Cruces, New Mexico.
7373.
Ashley Burton in London, UK. 6969.
Andrew Moran in Dunstan.
We have a lot of UK Islanders here on this.
6749 in Staffordshire.
Eric Grunewald in...
God knows what this is pronounced as.
Okay.
Eric Grunewald in...
Oh, this was a good note.
Eric Grunewald in IJservontein, which is in South Africa.
You saw the note about the Table Mountain?
Yeah, we talked about it in the last show.
No.
No.
His note was that the Table Mountain is in Johannesburg.
What did we say?
Something else.
Come on.
I thought it was in Cape Town.
No.
Yeah, I have the email here.
It's important that we correct these things.
Let me see.
Ah, crap.
I thought...
I thought you would have seen this.
I didn't have to get this.
I know we talked about Table Mom, but I thought it was in Johannesburg.
Not Johannesburg, but Cape Town.
It's in Johannesburg.
And he was in the car with his kids...
And they were driving in Johannesburg as we were talking about this, and the kids were going, Hey!
He's wrong!
He's wrong!
I wonder why I made that mistake.
I don't know.
Alright.
Onward.
We now know the difference.
I will look it up to confirm that, of course, because now I'm beside myself for being wrong.
David Groff on Cincinnati, Ohio, 6180.
And this is a Fibonacci number, 6180.
Sir Benjamin Ritgers in Ames, Iowa, 6116.
He sent a note in.
Let's see what his note says.
Note.
Thank you.
Dear John and Adam, thank you for your quality analysis.
The show is worth more than I can donate.
Please accept this check.
And please send home buying karma as I close on my first house Friday.
We'll put that for you at the end.
Home buying karma it is, yes.
Ryan Persichilli.
Persichilli.
What do you think?
It's a tough one.
Persitually, I think.
It's got to be.
Rosenberg, Texas.
5678.
Chris Abraham in Arlington, Virginia.
5555.
James Allen Laudeberg in Reistat, Norway.
55-10.
Matt Seaver in Knoxville, Tennessee.
Double nickels on the dime for him.
Josh McDonald, same thing.
Parts Unknown, Australia.
James Smith in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.
$55.
Sir Eric VM in Van Nuys, California.
$53.54.
Eric Wesseldyke.
Or Wesseldyke.
Wesseldyke.
Wesseldyke.
I think it's Wesseldyke.
In Portage, Michigan.
Paul St.
Laurent in Renton, Washington, 5033.
Bill Hudick in Timonium, Missouri, or Maryland.
Timonium, Maryland.
Timonium.
It sounds like an element on the periodic table.
5033.
Miles Mundy in Lower Sackville, Nova Scotia, 50.05.
Joe Schwarzbauer in Florissant, Missouri.
Adam DeMuy in Milton, Florida.
I think I got there right.
Miles Comer in Buckeye, Arizona.
Baroness Monica Lansing in Drayton Valley, Alberta.
Thank you.
Keith Powell in Swansea, UK. Donald Napier in Oviedo, Florida.
Brian Evans, parts unknown.
Shad Rich and you-know-where, parts unknown.
Peter Morris in Elmhurst, New York.
Oh, and finally, last but not least, the anonymous lesbian is back with us.
And she sent a complaining note, which I will read, but it's actually a great note.
She's from the LGBTQ community.
That's what she tells us.
Anonymous lesbian is not man overboard.
On the contrary, I have never been more appreciative of the show.
It's true that I am broke, but I would rather be broke and enlightened than wealthy and a zombie sheeple.
My career as a concert violinist has actually started to explode and there is no doubt in my mind that this is...
I will say this, I was sitting in the front room and our local classical music station, I play classical music 24-7 in the house, announced her.
Oh really?
Yeah.
And now, what's the name of the station?
It's KDFC or something.
And now, on K-Classics, Beethoven by the Anonymous Lesbian.
Man overboard!
She says, okay, in my mind there's no doubt that a small part of her new success has to do with the mental hygiene I have gained from listening to No Agenda.
Now you're talking.
Thank you both for your courage.
And she's in with 50 and we want to thank her.
Thank you.
And yeah, that was great.
So all these folks are very helpful.
We thank everyone profusely, including people with lesser amounts, which came in lower, for giving us a hand on this special show.
This is a special show we actually pre-announced a topic.
It doesn't happen.
Yeah.
We got lots of people helping us with art and information.
You heard some clips and a couple of jingles came in.
Now, I kind of vaguely remember you would ask, we need a jingle for I've been saying it all along or we've been saying it all along or something like that.
Do you recall this?
No.
Well, Brian Springer took it to heart, and he teamed up with Joe Jack Talcum from The Dead Milkman to create this for us.
Well, I don't need to beat a horse, but I've been saying it all along.
Been saying it all along.
I just like that the dead milkman guy did something for us.
That's cool.
That's very cool.
That's cute.
All right, everybody.
Thank you very much.
As John mentioned, another show coming up on Thursday.
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Slash N. A. Jobs.
Jobs.
Jobs.
And jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
All right, here we go.
Amanda Clare and her daughter Liraelle say happy birthday to their husband slash father Ryan.
Turn 33.
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We'll turn 200 today, actually.
Sir Bernie Adama says happy birthday to his son David Adama.
32 on the 26th today as well.
Also today, Eric Kunoz says happy birthday to his mate Hayden Wood celebrating today.
And we say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
It's your birthday, yeah!
Kedoki, now we need...
We have two nightings, so...
I only brought this smaller...
Wow.
I got the big one.
There you go.
Perfect.
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We saw another picture tweeted out of someone who received their ring a new night along with their...
Garlic and broccoli.
Yes.
It's on the list.
When was that?
I don't remember.
Not too long ago.
Let me see.
It's number...
Garlic and broccoli.
Yeah, it's one, two, three, four.
Well, it's a while back.
It's a while back because I remember poutine and rye whiskey, so it was before that.
Okay.
They're in chronological order, in case you hadn't done this.
How nice is that?
Yeah, it's fantastic.
I got a little ditty here because we are moving along here in the time.
This is just so you can get used to what's going to happen when it comes to your social media.
We already see lots of news reports, under-reported here, obviously, about Facebag and the tweeters removing any type of intolerant speech in the European Union, any kind of racist speech or anti-migrant speech.
All of that's going to be removed.
And one of the companies that does this is...
Hmm.
Norex.
Norex technology.
So, advisor to the extremist, what is the CEP? The Committee for Extremist Prevention, I think, is Dr.
Haney Ferd.
He's an advisor to the government on what we do against, and this is in the United States now, we're not talking about Europe.
I believe that the Norex system already is in place for several of these large companies to remove child pornography from the Internet.
Well, this is not going to be used for speech.
That's right.
So we've developed technology over the last year that...
Technology.
I want to point out he's a vocal fry.
Technology.
That's right.
So we've developed technology over the last year that allows social media companies and technology companies to find and remove terrorist-related content.
And this same technology has been used in the past to remove child pornography from sites.
And it's a very effective technology.
It works fully automatically.
It's efficient.
It's accurate.
Technology companies to effectively enforce what is already in place, which is their terms of service.
That this content is not allowed on the network and we are simply creating for them a mechanism to enforce that in an automatic, efficient and accurate way.
And I just want to point out, this mirrors the language in the net neutrality regulations.
It's not allowed on the network.
It's not legal.
It's illegal content.
Not allowed on the network.
Also illegal network traffic.
In an automatic, efficient, and accurate way.
A post comes up, it stays online for a while, somebody reports it, it comes down, it pops up over here.
And we are saying, once you've removed it, you now have technology to never allow it back onto the network.
So what's the pushback?
What's the pushback then?
You have to ask them that.
I don't know.
I don't actually understand what the pushback is, to be honest with you.
I don't know.
Free speech, maybe?
Could that be some of the pushbacks?
How does it work and how does it define?
What's the definition?
Yeah, that's the right question to ask.
I think the role of the government here would be terrific as a broker, as an honest broker, to bring in the academics, the NGOs, and the technology companies.
Now, I want to highlight this.
He's saying, to determine what is not okay, we need to bring in the government.
...broker to bring in the academics, the NGOs, and the technology companies together, and to create a sense of urgency on this problem.
So I can see them as being a very important partner in this.
But at the end of the day, the technology companies have to decide we no longer want this content on our network.
It is harmful for the network, it is harmful for society, and it's harmful for the world, and we should eliminate it.
You will hear slippery slope arguments that if we do this, we will eventually ban videos of kittens.
Which they made over child porn, which is sort of stunning.
It is true that when we were deploying the...
Say what?
No, no, no, no.
Slippery slope.
This is like a false analogy.
Oh, then we're going to ban kittens.
This is nonsense.
That's not what's going to happen.
No, but this is...
That's how you write the whole thing off.
This guy, what he should do is go over to Tumblr if you want to take care of some...
Keep yourself busy.
Oh, well, that would be Yahoo.
I'm sure there'll be a customer.
We will eventually ban videos of kittens.
Which they made over child porn, which is sort of stunning.
It is true that when we were deploying the child pornography technology, we heard exactly the same concerns, which I found indefensible.
We are not talking about stifling speech.
Who said this bullcrap?
Who is concerned about them raising child porn?
Oh, you're gonna start raising kittens if you erase my child porn.
The guy's supposed to be in jail who posted the child porn.
This is nonsense.
This guy's just ad-libbing.
We are not talking about stifling speech.
We are not talking about stifling dissent.
We are talking about taking off videos that show violent beheadings, that show calls to violence.
These are extreme, as we call them, the worst of the worst.
We absolutely should have dissent on the internet.
We should absolutely have discussions on the internet.
But there is no place in my mind of pictures and videos of young children being sexually assaulted and of people having their heads chopped off.
I think that's where we reasonably can draw the line.
That's not to say that we shouldn't have serious conversations about what does and what does not constitute extremist speech.
We do have to have a serious conversation about that.
And we have to have all the players at the table.
Woo!
Can't wait!
Can't wait!
What is extremist speech?
What could it be?
Who's going to determine what you can and can't say?
All I can say is come together and sing!
Let's get social!
Let's get social media!
Woo!
Give it up!
Mary McCoy!
What?
I would normally complain about you producing a segment using one of our things for the punchline, but you know I love that song.
I have to admit, it was a chat room suggestion.
I know.
I know.
Makes it worse, doesn't it?
Makes it worse, yes.
Let's see.
I got one thing here.
I'll be my last clip.
Okay.
I just thought, remember Trump early on in his thing, he fired one of his guys a long time ago.
And this guy kept showing up on TV. Yeah, it was the guy who was really nice about it.
He was like, eh, it was all fine.
Yeah, it was all good.
Apparently he said, that worked so well.
That we're now going to have Lewandowski, or whatever this guy's name is.
Play the Lewandowski clip.
I went, oh, brother, are these networks so stupid to buy into this?
Yeah.
Meanwhile, the former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski has been hired by CNN as a political commentator.
He was fired Tuesday.
He was charged with battery in March after surveillance footage showed him grabbing reporter Michelle Fields.
Fields, said Lewandowski, left bruises on her arm.
The charges were later dropped.
Wow, put the shill right into the lion's den.
Fantastic.
Unbelievable.
Oh man, they're dumb.
They're dumb.
Fantastic.
Lewandowski is just this total shill stooge.
I mean, whether he's even really fired or he's given this assignment.
That's great.
That's great.
I'll play my day.
I'll play my last clip.
I saw it mentioned several times.
Luckily, someone was able to clip it because it wasn't easy to find.
This is Charlie Rangel.
Is he a senator or a congressman?
Rangel.
He's a congressman who was censored.
Censored by the congress.
Censured or censored?
Censured.
What does that mean?
You've got to shut up?
It doesn't really mean anything legally, but it does mean that he's snubbed because he broke a bunch of rules.
It's like a grown-up version of Time Out.
Only probably worse.
Well, he was caught by the journalist in the halls and talking about guns, of course.
Oh, before I play the clip, I'm so sorry.
This is very importante.
We got a great email from our insider, our Republican staffer in Washington.
There's no agenda producer who is a staffer.
I have no idea who he or she works for, but definitely for a Republican.
And sent some thoughts, insider thoughts, from the sit-in that the Democrats did and were periscoping out on the interwebs.
John Adams, a few quick insights on the gun bills.
First off, due to the sit-in forcing Ryan to go ahead and wrap up the week in the middle of the night, I got two extra days of recess!
Most of my office went home early Thursday, and then on Friday we spent most of the day watching movies.
So hats off to my Dem colleagues for providing the break from work.
Hashtag love and light.
Secondly, as John stated on Thursday, the main bill that was being called for was the no-fly bill.
This bill failed in the Senate on Tuesday with 53 Republican votes.
In other words, it failed because it received no support from the Senate Democrats.
So their own party didn't even support the bill.
No one in the media has mentioned this.
Therefore, of course, it was dead on arrival in the House, even if there was a vote, which there couldn't have been because the sister bill in the House failed to pass in committee.
The media also does not report on this.
Was that while the asks from the protesters were all over the place, and it seemed terribly unorganized, what we discovered from colleagues on the other side was that the DNC had a massive and somewhat organized mailing campaign during the 25-hour protest for donations.
Our colleagues said they nailed their fundraising quota for the quarter overnight.
And that's what it was all about.
Suckers!
Big-ass suckas.
So Charlie Rangel is asked about, you know, about citizens having guns for protection.
He's from New York, so the question is, hey, or actually the statement from the reporters you'll hear is, you know, it's very hard to get a concealed carry license in New York.
The only people who seem to be able to get it are celebrities, powerful politicians, and other people who have bribed the police department, is basically her assertion.
Rangel's answer, particularly at the end, was very interesting.
A New York City concealed carry permit is so rare, and the only people who tend to get it are the very connected, very wealthy, or if you happen to know the right guy in NYPD, That's wrong, but I know what you're trying to say.
Corruption is bad.
Okay, but let's talk about that for a second.
Well, I should say the uber-wealthy who have protection, have that protection, but individuals who are law-abiding citizens in your district should not.
Well, law-abiding citizens just shouldn't have to carry a gun, you know that, so you're not going to push me in that direction.
But you're protected by guns all over the place here in the capital.
Well, that's a little different.
I think we deserve...
I think we need to be protected down here.
Yeah, he corrected himself, but we know what he was thinking.
We deserve protection.
Yeah.
Definitely.
He said.
Definitely.
Douchebag!
Definitely a douchebag.
That's how they're thinking.
I think we've done a pretty good description of elites today on the show, John.
I feel pretty good about that.
I think so.
Yeah, I feel pretty good about that, actually.
I should feel good about the whole thing.
Always feeling good.
Mental hygiene.
Okay, we have a special for the streamers.
There will be a Daniel Luce song here in the final bits, but we may not put it in the final edit of the show.
Just so you know.
John, I can hear your brains crunching. - I know.
I understand exactly what you're thinking.
Yeah.
Okay.
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Adios, mofos!
But at the end of the day, they're backing him.
You know, they're backing him.
Come on.
At the end of the day.
At the end of the day, John.
If someone wants to get anyone, they can get him.
At the end of the day.
At the end of the day, it's more important that we have entertainment.
At the end of the day.
So, at the end of the day, who's going to pay for the real loan?
It's going to be taxpayer money.
At the end of the day.
At the end of the day, that's going to be up to Valerie Jarrett.
At the end of the day, isn't that it?
At the end of the day, all this money is owed to bankers.
At the end of the day, I think it's good.
At the end of the day, as Americans, what we always do is we always say...
So, at the end of the day, it's not actually the healthcare, it's the...
At the end of the day, you can't deny I had to put less gas in...
At the end of the day...
We're all anti-Semites.
At the end of the day, you get, I think it's 4% starts to run together at the end of the day.
You kind of forget, right?
John, you and I are both in the audience business at the end of the day.
And so at the end of the day, she can say, hey, I told you so.
At the end of the day.
But I don't say at the end of the day.
sit at once and together.
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Next to the sausage sandwich, The conversation switched to national sovereignty.
In amongst the cream teas, one of the key referendum issues had reared its head in an almost invisible manner.
The sun has risen on an independent United Kingdom.
I'll decide.
We may well be close, perhaps, to next step.
Next step.
I'm told to say it may apply to Sweden and perhaps Austria and perhaps even Italy too.
I've said before that Britain can survive outside the European Union and indeed that we could find a way.
I'll dissolve.
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