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Torture, torture, torture everybody.
Adam Curry, John C. DeVore.
And it's Sunday, July 3rd, 2016, and time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination, episode 839.
This is no agenda.
Prophesying twice weekly because we are from the future and we're broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in FEMA Region 6, Austin Tejas.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm drinking water from a cur jar.
And I'm not sounding great.
John C. DeVore.
It's Crack Vaughn and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
I'm really trying to make it all work.
Really trying to make it sound good.
It's been troubling.
You said prophesifosize or whatever it was.
Yeah, yeah, prophesying.
I know, I know, I had to look the word up, but then I liked it.
Yeah, good.
Have you heard of this word?
Please, it's an old word.
Everyone knows it.
I didn't know it.
You're the only one that I know of that's never...
You didn't know it.
You just have not been paying attention.
Okay.
I did know it.
I just wasn't paying attention.
Okay.
I know you did know it because I know it's come up in the show before.
I don't think so.
Yeah.
Well, you're the one with the great memory.
True.
I have a great memory.
I was once a great beauty.
If anybody remembers where that came from, you will.
So I'm trying to make you sound good today, but I'm having trouble.
I don't know what's going on with the Skype connection.
Keep fiddling.
Keep fiddling.
Oh, I'll just keep fiddling away.
Absolutely.
Tweaking.
Constantly tweaking.
Yeah.
Well, I had a bad couple of days, man.
Mom.
Right there was like a great spot because it was like I had to make a decision.
This is how the show works, people.
This is a performance.
I had to make a decision.
When he said that, immediately I had to either go to something interesting or did he tweak something?
Kind of my curiosity and what happened, Adam?
Wow!
Behind the scenes at the No Agenda podcast studio.
Behind the scenes of my brain.
Did you drink the mouthwash this morning?
Just the question?
No.
I should have, though, it sounds like.
No, we had a massive fail on Thursday's show, and it really...
Oh, God.
Yeah, I just want to explain what happened, and then we can move on.
It was somehow the...
Well, two things happened.
One, I selected the wrong recording bus for the recorder, which pretty much gave us a recording of the entire show, but only the clips we played, which is interesting.
Actually would have been as interesting as the show itself.
But these big gaps in between is pretty funny.
So that was fail.
And then I said, oh, don't worry.
We have the backup recording.
And I'm always skeptical because this backup recording seems to be sketchy.
So here's what happened.
Somehow the final processing unit, before it goes into the backup unit, had become switched off.
And it was...
I don't know if I... I don't think I heard anything in my headphones.
I should have, looking at the routing.
But I was riding the levels pretty hard.
So in my head, everything was kind of even.
But this backup device has a little automatic gain thing in it.
So it was so confused receiving this uncompressed, unprocessed signal that it was doing its own thing.
The levels were all over the place.
It was like a 3D. Why is the backup thing doing its own thing?
Isn't it just backing up?
Yeah.
So that was the third part of the fail, is that somehow that automatic gain controller had switched on in the backup.
Anyway, so it gave this like weird 3D effect and the levels were all over the place and it really bothered me.
Especially since you had touted me as such an amazing producer of the podcast.
Which makes it your fault.
Which makes it your fault.
Exactly.
I'll take credit for it.
You jinxed it.
You jinxed it.
I jinxed it.
Yeah.
Anyway.
You've been in baseball or something.
You remember the red biplane that Tina and I flew on?
I read this, yes.
Oh my god, he crashed into Lake Travis.
Or not crashed, he ditched.
He ditched into Lake Travis.
He ditched.
He ditched.
Now the funny thing, this is for people that don't know what Adam's referring to, is he took a biplane ride, I think, when was it?
It was Valentine's Day, around Valentine's Day.
Oh yes, of course.
A Valentine's Day biplane ride in a red biplane.
Yeah.
Yeah, and they had little flowers around, and then they went home.
And then they went home and took a bath with candles all over the place.
Well, we were safe, but the video I put in the show notes, if you haven't seen it yet, the video is, oh my God, and of course I know Robert who flies this thing, and he made the right decision, but boy, what a day wrecker.
Right in the drink.
Did it ruin the plane?
I think the plane is...
That'll have to go back to the jig.
Although I will say...
He dropped it in the water and it sunk.
Well, if he flipped over, and personally, I don't know the situation.
I know what he does, and this is his own fault, because when he goes over the lake, he did it with us, he goes down to about 150 feet.
That is your problem.
He left no out.
There are other places he could have landed around there, but there was 150 feet, you got an engine failure.
But I personally, I think I would have done a better ditch, although it's hard to say because I wasn't in the situation.
Have you ever ditched a plane?
No, but as a helicopter pilot, you have a lot more experience in this type of maneuver and pulling up right at the end so that you don't flip over, or at least not with such veracity.
That was pretty nasty.
Anyway, everyone's okay, so that's good.
Just a bad day, that's all.
Very bad day.
And then there was some other crap going on.
Hey, Australia!
Australia what?
I am a little disappointed in our Australian producers.
They have pretty much sent us no information about what's going on there, as they woke up this morning, which was yesterday for us, to this news.
Australia faces the headache of a hung parliament and a minority government, as there's no clear winner from Saturday's general election.
Vote counting has been paused, and it's so tight Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull's Liberal Party may need the support of smaller parties to stay in power.
I remain quietly confident that a majority coalition government will be returned at this election when the counting is completed.
A clearer result isn't expected until at least Tuesday, but Turnbull's main challenger, Labour Party leader Bill Shorten, said there was already one clear loser, the Prime Minister's reform agenda.
What are you supposed to tell us?
There's nothing there.
I barely even knew the elections were taking place.
Let's put it that way.
Ah, yes.
Right.
Yeah.
They're remiss.
They should be ashamed of themselves.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know if they should be ashamed of themselves, but...
They should be.
They should be ashamed of themselves for not giving us stuff.
There should be tons of stuff to talk about.
Tons of funny things.
Yeah, we have nothing.
Oh, no.
But the other similar-sounding country...
You mean Austria?
Yes.
So this guy, this right winger, lost, but then it turns out that there's some corruption going on in this election, so they're going to have to do a redo.
In Austria, the highest court has ordered a rerun of the presidential election after the far-right candidate, Norbert Hofer, was narrowly defeated.
Hofer, who won 49.7 percent of the vote, ran on an anti-migrant platform and would have become the first far-right head of state elected in Europe since 1945.
The court ruling opens up the possibility he may seize power in the new round of elections.
Hold on!
Do-over!
Now, let's take a closer look at democracy now.
These guys have, and I've got a clip coming up that's even worse.
When you win an election, that does not equate to seizing power.
True.
When Obama won, President Barack Obama seized power.
I'm surprised they didn't say hammered the country.
Well, seizing power is...
This is one of those...
Yeah, it's a propagandistic word.
She says it again at the end.
Oh, hold on a second.
It's a very propagandistic word.
Totally.
Hold on a second.
Oops.
I already dumped the clip.
Let me see if I can get you the ending there.
Seizing power is not the same as winning an election.
...would have become the first far-right head of state elected in Europe since 1945.
The court ruling opens up the possibility he may seize power in the new round of election.
Thank you for catching that, because that is indeed bullcrap.
It's unbelievable when I heard it.
Yeah.
Winning an election, why didn't she just say he'll win the election?
You win an election, you don't seize power.
If you're a dictator, you are.
If you're a right-wing crazy guy, you are.
That's the messaging.
Yeah.
Donald Trump won the presidency of the United States.
He seized power in November 11th or whatever the day would be.
Fourth, I think.
Anyway, I found that abhorrent, but they're going to do a do-over for this guy, and he may or may not win.
The way they make it sound is that he just hates, you know, he's a racist pig.
And by the way, Gary Johnson just came out with a statement that Donald Trump is clearly a racist.
He was on Bill Meyer's show, and there was really nothing to clip.
But he was high.
I think he was stoned.
He was dumb.
I'm so disappointed.
All the time he stoned.
All the time.
Just so disappointed.
He stoned all the time.
It must be.
No, I seriously think he stoned all the time.
He looks like a guy stoned.
If you've been around people, they get stoned all the time.
With the exception of you, by the way.
Yes.
And I've said this before on the show, and I'll say it again.
You never, during that era where you were stoned all the time, and pretty much stoned all the time, in fact, I can think of one other person, but you never had any appearance of being stoned.
Now, that says to me that somebody's really good at getting stoned all the time, so they're stoned all the time.
It's natural they're stoned all the time.
Gary Johnson must be really stoned, because he would seem to me, he probably was always stoned all the time, But to look stoned, to see you so you look stoned, I can see when you've drunk too much, but when you're stoned to the point where you look stoned, you'd have to be really stoned.
Dude, I'm stoned right now.
So Gary must be out of his mind.
Here's the problem.
If you're a habitual pot smoker, like several times a day, Eventually, the way it works, and this is pretty well known and demonstrated, you need much less to get high each time.
So I can just imagine, you know, he's in the green room, he's getting ready, and I'll just take one toke, and then that little bit just sends him over the edge.
I don't know.
Well, you know, this modern...
Bread, marijuana.
This stuff is nasty.
Dynamite.
Not good.
Not good.
Okay, um...
Well, there was a lot of action regarding Hillary Clinton over the weekend.
She had her quote-unquote interview about the quote-unquote review with the FBI on Saturday.
Quote-unquote FBI. Yeah, quote-unquote FBI. And, you know, there's a lot...
Man, everyone seems...
Well, certainly Fox News has all kinds of Benghazi documentaries.
And I went through the documents, 799 pages.
Most of it...
I think the most interesting section is part two, which is internal and public government communications about the terrorist attacks in Benghazi.
And this details quite clearly...
What the administration, what President Obama, Hillary Clinton, et al.
were doing in these hours after it became known that there was a problem at the consulate in Benghazi.
Here, now, let me see.
This one, I think, is the clip I want.
This is where, the first time I've heard this mentioned, but very interesting.
Yeah, absolutely they lied.
There's no question.
This, by the way, is former CIA operative Claire Lopez.
I don't know, she must have a book out or something, but she's running around.
Yeah, absolutely they lied.
There's no question.
We know, again, from Judicial Watch documents obtained through the FOIA process that the administration, including the President and the Secretary of State, Clinton, were actively involved.
That very night, while the attack was still going on, in concocting a false narrative to deflect the story from the truth and to defend at all costs, even the cost of American lives, the re-election campaign of the president.
They were not even decided on which video they were going to blame.
They only knew that they were going to blame a video.
I don't know if you know about this, but there was another video out there created by A minister named Pastor John.
Now this, to me, this is a big smoking gun right here.
You want to say something?
No, I was just going to make a joke about Pastor John, but go on.
Well, now, so when you look at this document, and you recall that they had a two-and-a-half or three-hour meeting about, you know, what should we do?
And this was already after Sean Smith was dead.
I'm quoting directly from Part 3 of the Benghazi Report.
Five of the ten action items from the rough notes of the 7.30 p.m.
meeting referenced the video, including an item mentioning Leonie Panetta, Secretary of Defense, Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Chaff, reaching out to, quote, Pastor Jones directly.
For nearly two years, the White House had been issuing public statements in the wake of actions committed by Pastor Jones, although no connection at the time linked Pastor Jones to the video Benghazi Attacks.
And it appears, if you keep looking at these notes, and there's a couple of draft speeches that Hillary was going to give, a lot of stuff in here, they really could not make a decision whether to say it was the Pastor Jones video, Terry Jones.
Which, this is the guy who burned the Korans.
That's the guy.
Right, and that's the one we played excerpts from during the event.
And so they didn't even know who they were going to blame it on.
It was terrible, by the way.
Yes.
So they didn't even know who they were going to blame it on.
So it's really apparent.
And then, of course, if you look at the timeline and how she was emailing an hour later with Chelsea, that, you know, it's like, hey, this is a terrorist attack.
Same when she called up El Magriff, the crime dog.
Yes, Magriff.
Libyan President Mohammed Magriff.
Same thing.
He said, hey, we got a problem there, no mention of the video.
So I think that really is the only thing that matters in this report.
I mean, other than that, there is no real mention or understanding of what we heard from Tony the Terrorist, which was the whole setup with the guys coming in from Tunisia to kidnap the ambassador.
Everything else was true.
Everything else was, oh, we want to make sure this works out for the president's re-election.
And that's kind of anything of...
I mean, the Benghazi report, we've heard so much about it.
It's just boring.
It's boring.
Well, they did, I was listening to the News Hour with, they had this other guy, this Indian guy playing Brooks, and he's from the New Republic, no, not the New Republic, National Review, so we know he hates Trump, and so Brooks, not Brooks, but the other guy, Shields, comes out with this very interesting analysis of how well Trump's doing by targeting and trying to cajole the working class.
And the other guy, it's funny, because the National Review just hates Trump, so this guy hates Trump, so why is he on the show?
And he's supposed to be the right side of the...
Yeah, but he's just another Trump hater from the National Review.
But they go back and forth, and they bring up the Benghazi discussion, and...
Shields makes an interesting point.
Apparently, because they said it's a wash because of the way the information came in.
They couldn't bust Hillary.
She was really good at her 12-hour testimony.
Everything kind of became a wash, so Benghazi's not in play.
And Shields came up with a very interesting observation.
He said that it does have kind of an effect because...
During the election, the early planning for Hillary's run for the president was going to kind of be based on the great job she did in Libya.
Oh, wow.
It really screwed everything up.
No wonder she's pissed off.
As an element of how great she was as Secretary of State, this Libya thing.
So that's completely off the table.
I think the whole Libyan effect, I think she could use this in one of her...
In one of her campaign advertisements.
I mean, that is the land of unconfirmed videos.
We came, we saw, he died.
Hillary Clinton for president.
Yeah, she used that.
Well, you know, a lot of Democrats feel the same way.
They're a bunch of butchers.
I do have, we had the mom, Patricia Smith, Sean Smith's mom.
There's a new next of kin on the circuit.
The widow of Security Officer Woods, this is Dr.
Dorothy Woods, and she was on CNN with Aaron Burnett.
Interesting to listen to her.
Now, of course, her husband is dead, was killed, and she also has, I guess, as little information as Sean Smith's mom does.
There was a report obviously out this week, both Democrats and Republicans.
This has become so politicized, and there was a report that came out, and here's what she had to say about it.
I'll leave it to others to characterize this report, but I think it's pretty clear it's time to move on.
How do you feel, Dorothy, when you hear that response?
I think that nobody in government can tell me how I feel, what I should feel about it.
She has no right, nor does anyone in government have the right to tell me it's time to move on.
They're not in my shoes.
You know, I think that's the essence of what they have done, is they've been dismissive.
The committee's been ridiculed.
The committee has been...
They've been criticized.
And, you know, for them to sincerely do the right thing, to care about Americans, that's what's important.
You know, I agree in a way with her that it's for the public to decide.
You know, some people have made their decision.
Others haven't.
But the facts are there.
And it's up to the Americans, the American people, to really figure out where they fall in this.
Isn't that odd, the way she's responding to this?
She is very, you can hear her inner voice, she's very disturbed, nervous, and angry.
Yeah.
Yeah, but the whole let the American people decide, I just thought that was kind of odd.
Well, I don't know.
She doesn't seem like she's a happy camper.
No, no.
But, you know, Hillary telling everybody to move on, yeah, that's kind of rude.
That's Hillary.
There's a lot of stuff.
Don't you think?
Yeah, true.
Hillary.
That's Hillary.
Ah, it's just Hillary.
What can you do?
What can you do?
So, between the previous show and this, how many terror attacks have there now been in the world?
I can't change my social media icon fast enough.
There's too many terror attacks.
I don't know which flag to fly anymore.
They're all over the place.
It's like there's a barrage.
It's a terror attack blitz.
It's the wheel of terror.
And in the meantime, of course, we miss a lot of news because a lot of the...
Networks won't tell us certain things like Samantha Powers killing a kid.
Oh, I didn't hear about this.
What happened?
You're never going to hear about this.
She killed a kid?
She didn't directly kill the kid.
Oh wait, this is old news.
Isn't this old news though?
It was just on Friday.
I think it happened a while ago.
Yeah, it did.
What happened, which changed is they finally made a settlement.
And this discuss discusses the settlement in Cameroon.
The United States has paid compensation to the family of a seven year old boy who is fatally run over by U.N. Ambassador Samantha Powers motorcade in April.
The compensation includes two cows, hundreds of kilos of flour, onions, rice, salt and sugar and about seventeen hundred dollars.
The boy was killed after an armored Jeep and Powers convoy hit him at top speed.
Wow, that's interesting compensation package.
I can't.
Have some sheep.
Yeah, how generous.
Man.
It's a wash.
In family.
So we have, you know, this, let's see, if we go back to the Ataturk airport, Istanbul airport attack, still no, and of course everything else that is ISIS, ISIS right away claims it, and they're all over the place.
Yeah.
However, the Istanbul airport attack, this is now Russian ISIS recruiters, just to make it even.
Yeah, from Chechnya.
Yeah, from Chechnya, yes.
And, of course, we had the one-eye guy, Abu Makhdar Makhdar Makhdar with one eye, and now we got the one-armed, Ahmed the one-armed guy.
I didn't know this was one-armed.
Yeah, yeah, listen.
Ahmed Chataev is an ISIS commander and a convicted arms smuggler.
He spoke with the wrong kind of arms.
Listen to...
Sorry, go on.
It's okay, but just listen to...
The massacre at Istanbul's main airport, according to a U.S. official and Turkish media reports.
Like thousands of other ISIS... By the way, that's beautifully produced.
Did you hear that?
So she does the pause, they get the big explosion, AK-47 gunfire.
Perfectly timed.
Well produced.
Turkish media reports.
Like thousands of other ISIS fighters...
Isn't that great?
It's fantastic.
I like the sound effect.
It's got a nice...
It's good.
...is from Russia's Chechen minority and a veteran of Chechnya's brutal conflict with the Russian state.
A US official says he's believed to be in Raqqa, the so-called ISIS capital.
Turkey's state news agency today named two of the suicide bombers as Rakim Bulgarov and Vadim Osmanov, and also reported that Istanbul police arrested 15 foreigners in connection with the attack.
There are conflicting reports about where the bombers came from, including Russia, Uzbekistan, And Kyrgyzstan.
But all are recruiting grounds for ISIS. For five years now, foreign fighters have used Turkey as a transit country to reach the Syrian war zone.
In 2013, we watched people slipping through the border fence in broad daylight.
There's better security now.
But Hershet Ganesh, a Turkish politician, told us the airport bombing is partly a result of Turkey's failure to control its border.
Some people call it a highway.
Some people call it a connection point.
And now Turkey's become a target.
Yes.
The bombers reportedly used a cocktail of explosives in their suicide vests.
And Josh, we've learned that those explosives are widely used in the Syrian conflict and readily purchased on the black market here in Turkey.
So they're really doing everything they can to pin this on these guys.
And this one-armed guy, and I have another report here with a timeline, I mean, it's unbelievable.
And you know what?
Britain, yay to Brexit, because your compatriots there in the European Union are effing up big time.
The Russian government waged two anti-terror campaigns against militants in the North Caucasus.
This is when he first came to their attention.
He was named as a person of interest during this time and earned the nickname Achmed One-Arm.
He allegedly lost one of his arms.
I'm sorry.
They need to do a better job with a nickname.
Ahmed One-Arm.
It doesn't sound good.
You know what I mean?
It should be anything but Ahmed One-Arm.
The one-armed ISIS fighter or something better than that.
These all sound like they're derived from mafia nicknames.
Anything, anything dependent on these guys.
Now listen to the timeline.
One arm, he allegedly lost one of his arms during the Chechen conflict.
He was able to leave Russia 12 years ago and he was granted asylum in Austria.
And despite being on Russia's wanted list even since 2003 for terrorist activities, Now, despite Russia's warnings, he was welcomed into the West with open arms and granted this asylum.
And he's been able to move freely across Europe and post-Soviet states.
And by no means has he been lying low during this time.
He's been arrested multiple times and in various countries across Europe.
And if we take a look back at his history, it really would send alarm bells ringing.
In 2003, Ahmed Chataev, wanted by Russia, is granted asylum in Austria, allowing him to travel freely across Europe.
And he...
This, by the way, is all part of the free movement of people.
Didn't keep a low profile.
He was arrested multiple times in different countries.
In 2008, he was arrested with ammunition and guns in Sweden and jailed.
The same year, he was added to the Interpol wanted list by Russia.
After his release, he was arrested yet again, this time in Ukraine, where he was found with bomb-making manuals and photos of terror victims.
Following this, Russia demanded his extradition, but rights groups opposed the move.
Amnesty International urged Ukrainian authorities not to extradite Chitaev to Russia, amid fears he would be at risk of torture and other grave human rights violations.
Way to go, human rights!
Way to go!
Wow, good work!
In 2011, he was arrested...
Actually, I had this clip that you played earlier, but for some reason I never extended it to this part of the clip.
Well, because it's so crappy, I had to cut out 18 different pauses.
Very weird read the guy did.
They have human rights violations.
In 2011, he was arrested at the Bulgarian-Turkish border...
Russian pleas for his extradition were again denied.
A year later in Georgia, he was arrested in an anti-terror operation and charged with illegal arms possession.
Extradition was again refused.
In 2015, reports emerged that Chetayev had entered Syria and joined Islamic State.
He's finally put on the U.S. terror list.
That's unbelievable.
This guy was arrested everywhere, wanted to be extradited.
Oh, we can't have him extradited because they might hurt him in Russia.
It's really, really unbelievable.
They're responsible for the death of those people in the airport if all this is true.
I think there's certainly culpability.
Certainly.
Certainly.
But there's a lot going on with Turkey right now.
So we had...
Erdogan apologize about shooting down the Russian jet.
Putin then says, okay, that's good.
We should stop the ban on tourism.
Although I'm not sure the Russians want to go right now.
And we'll also start cranking up the Nord Stream 2, which now we're calling the Turkish Stream.
And the reason why this is important, as Israel just came out and said, hey...
You know, we're about ready to start some of that gas flowing from the Leviathan fields, which we've talked about, the Leviathan gas field, off the coast of not just Israel, but Lebanon, Syria.
I mean, it's going to be quite interesting to see who thinks that gas is theirs.
Noble Energy with former President Clinton on the Board of Advisors.
They're the ones that are in there.
And the Israelis are talking about either pumping gas to Turkey, but, you know, hey, we could always just build a really long pipeline up to Cyprus into Greece, and, you know, we could bypass Turkey.
So Turkey is trying to get all their ducks in a row.
And I think that we'll also see some real problems off the coast.
Well, Lebanon and Syria will see some real problems about the claims as to who really owns all of this Leviathan gas field.
So there's a lot of moves.
I actually have a clip from, who's this guy?
This is Harold Road.
Somewhere I got his Wikipedia page.
He's kind of a super neocon.
Let me see.
American specialist on Middle East and worked as an analyst at the Pentagon for 28 years.
That's all you need to know.
Israel will need to sell gas.
And as a result of Erdogan screwing up his relationship with Putin, the Russians stopped selling gas.
So Israel needs to sell gas.
The Turks desperately need gas.
It's also a good route to send gas to Europe.
And so it suits everybody's economic needs.
There is very clearly no love, Israel feels, towards Erdogan.
And Erdogan hates the Jews.
He hates the Jewish state.
Yeah, there you go.
Fighting words.
Another one of those guys.
Yeah, yeah.
I think you were talking about three or four shows ago with the parens around the name in a social media context like Twitter.
Oh, the three brackets, three parens, yeah?
Yeah.
What was that about?
Oh, the Jew.
Jew echo chamber.
What does it mean when you do that?
It means, so, we would say, Secretary of Treasury of the United States, Lou, whatever his name is, and then we put his name, Lou, in three brackets, which means Lou...
Okay, what does it mean when you put your own name in three brackets?
So what happened was the Jewish community started fighting against this, and so now just everyone's putting their name in brackets, Jew or not, just to muddy the waters.
It's an odd thing.
That's very strange.
But I see it everywhere.
I see these...
Yeah, I've noticed it with a number of people.
I'm thinking, what's the point you're trying to make here?
When I see it, I just think they hate the Jews.
Yeah.
Um...
Meanwhile, we have some real issues with our diplomats, and this is, I would say, poorly being covered up by the State Department.
I don't know if you followed any of this, but there's, you know, there's, let's see, what happened apparently is a State Department official at the embassy in Russia was harassed by a security guard and broke the person.
It started with the State Department.
Diplomats are causing trouble.
Well, I have a report here.
This came up, of course, in the question and answer session with the State Department spokeshole Kirby.
According to the Russian foreign ministry, on the record, on that night, a U.S. diplomat emerged from a taxi late at night in a low cap, pulled down over his face, rushed to the checkpoint, refused to show his credentials, hit the sentry in the face with his elbow, pushed the security guard and fled into the hit the sentry in the face with his elbow, pushed the Is that the State Department's understanding of the events of that night or do you dispute the official Russian account?
Josh, I'm not able to speak to the specifics of any particular incident.
But I can say that we continue to be very troubled by the way our employees have been treated over the past couple of years.
And I can tell you that we've raised those concerns at the highest levels, including to President Putin there in Moscow.
Harassment and surveillance of our diplomatic personnel in Moscow by security personnel and traffic police have increased significantly.
Yeah, it seems like what you do.
I'm pretty sure we do the same to the Russian officials here.
And we continue to find this unacceptable.
I've also seen these comments made by Russian officials, which are factually inaccurate.
Moscow knows that all too well.
However, we're not interested, the United States is not interested, in having a public debate on the issue.
We believe that this is best handled in private, government-to-government discussions.
And by the media.
Yeah, wait for it, because this guy comes back with what the Russians actually said.
Continue to do this.
We've raised, as I said, our serious concerns all the way up to the highest levels of the Russian government.
And the last thing I'd say is the secretary takes extremely seriously our responsibility to look out for the safety and well-being of our personnel overseas, wherever they are.
Yeah, well done in Benghazi.
The Russian foreign ministry also said that there is a video of the incident that they have handed to the State Department that is in your possession.
Is that correct?
We're aware of a video, yes.
Will you release that video?
I have no plans to release that video.
The Russian Foreign Ministry said that the diplomat is a known CIA agent who is disguised and returning from an intelligence operation.
Is that correct?
I'm just not going to go into more details about these incidents.
Gee, there's spies in the State Department?
I'm shocked.
Go figure.
I actually heard that the spy was possibly doing something for the Hillary campaign.
I'm not sure why, but that's just what I heard, just to throw it out there.
I had no other corroboration.
What are you doing in Russia for the Hillary campaign?
I have no idea.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I was a spy.
That makes more sense.
Of course it does.
Just the point of hammering some poor, just some guys working for the foreign services and he's getting out of his cab to go do some paperwork.
He's going to arrest him.
It's not worth the trouble.
The guy's already leading a miserable life.
Yeah.
But just, you know, being a fan of the Americans and having watched all of those episodes, you know, it's just like, of course, of course there's a spy, obviously.
And so now I think we're probably harassing, we're harassing Russian diplomats.
But the Russians have a bunch of spies over here, too.
Of course they do.
Of course.
Yeah, why wouldn't they?
But I'd love to see that video.
That'd be fun.
Oh, there are no plans to release it.
Yeah, thanks.
Why not?
Somebody said, why not?
Why not release it?
What are you afraid of?
What are you afraid of?
You're just lying up there, you're standing up there at the podium, just bold-faced lies in your video?
Yeah, Matt Lee did get in his face about it, but it wasn't worth clipping.
It was just sad.
That reminds me, since you brought up the CIA, I got a CIA clip.
Okay.
Actually, I got two of them.
All righty.
Play this one.
This is an interesting, another untold story by the mainstream media.
This came up in, I believe, probably Democracy Now.
You take the good with the bad with this show.
This is the C.I.A. El Masserist story.
A newly released internal CIA report has revealed how the agency arrested, imprisoned and interrogated German citizen Khalid al-Masri at a secret prison in Afghanistan, even though the CIA knew he was not the man they were looking for.
The report chronicles how the CIA seized al-Masri after Macedonian agents accused him of being a member of al-Qaeda traveling on a false passport.
Yet no one from the CIA even looked at al-Masri's passport for the first three months of his imprisonment, at which point agents determined his passport was real and that there was, as CIA agents wrote, quote, no basis to justify the continued detention of al-Masri, unquote.
Yet the agency continued to hold al-Masri for months because it could not decide on a, quote, And who was this guy again?
He was a nobody.
He was a schmendrick.
It was a guy that Macedonia claimed must have been some horrible person.
He's got a fake passport.
You should pick him up.
And so I guess they, okay, they picked him up.
They picked him up and beat him up, I guess.
Kept him for a while.
The guy was just some guy, some schmuck.
And so then they, what are we going to do?
I don't know.
And they dropped him off on some street corner in Albania and took off.
This is after like a year or two, I guess.
Yeah.
Well, let's just stick with CIA for a moment then.
Yeah, I didn't have this on Thursday's show, but the little sit-down chat and the whole talk that CI Director Brennan did at the Council on Foreign Relations included a question about the so-called 28 pages.
The 28 pages of the 9-11 Commission report, which were redacted and held from public view.
And journalists actually asked him, hey, what are we going to do with that?
Since it's now pretty well known, I think everyone kind of knows what's in it.
Yeah, I think a lot of people, enough people have read it and leaked what's in it.
We're pretty sure we know what's in it.
Although the whole thing could be a scam, we maybe don't know anything.
Well, there's also this file 17, which is kind of a, that is a public document, and it's kind of like an overview of what the 28 pages is comprised of.
And I believe this came from Bob Graham.
I think he put this out.
Anyway, so here's Brennan talking about the 28 pages as the question is asked.
Director Brennan, my question concerns the 28 pages.
You've been on record about your view of their relative lack of value.
My question is timing of release and the level of declassification and whether they will also be released with the investigative report, which puts it all in context.
Well, I am only the director of CIA, so I don't make the decisions about the release of a congressional document, the joint inquiry that was produced in December of 2002, that subsequently was followed up with the 9-11 Commission that thoroughly investigated all the allegations and information that was in those 28 or 29 pages.
Even the Bieber thing.
So there's an executive branch responsibility because that document cited executive branch information.
So there is a, I think it's been said publicly, there's been a review that has been underway.
And so there is going to be the appropriate discussions that need to take place between the executive and legislative branches to finalize that.
I believe it's important that that document get out because there's so much speculation and conjecture about it.
Thank you.
But that's why the 9-11 Commission thorough, thorough research investigation really should be seen by folks as the more much more dispositive of it.
And there are some other documents that may come out at the same time, as you point out.
But again, I defer to others who have that decision making responsibility.
OK.
OK.
Yeah.
I don't even know what he said.
Well, what he said was, it's up to Congress to release it, but there's nothing in there.
Nothing to see here.
Move along.
It's really not a big deal, folks.
And since I see you have a clip for it, we might as well discuss what the White House released on Friday, the end of day Friday, which is exactly what you want to do with news that you really don't want anyone to talk about.
No, just not any Friday.
No, not any Friday, the long weekend Friday, the holiday weekend Friday, 4th of July.
That's when you want to release, finally, the numbers of civilians and others killed with our CIA-operated drone strikes all over the world.
Shall I play your report that you have here?
Yes, play away.
Caleb Mopin explains.
The report from the White House indicates that between 64 and 116 noncombatant civilians have died as a result of U.S. drone strikes.
Now, it was made clear by the White House that this report does not include people who died in Afghanistan, Iraq, or Syria.
The reason that these three countries were excluded is because these are considered to be active war zones.
And according to the White House, the number of civilian deaths in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria are classified.
That information is classified.
These numbers released by the White House, again, 64 to 116 civilians estimated killed, according to the White House report, are much lower than the numbers given by many independent civilian watchdog groups.
In fact, the numbers given are roughly half Of the lowest estimates given by independent groups.
Many people rate many, many independent investigators and civilian watchdogs.
Say the numbers of people killed, non-combatant civilians killed are much higher.
The timing of the report is also interesting.
The report was released on the Friday before the July 4th Independence Day weekend in the United States.
And as the report was coming out, already the streets of D.C. were clogged with people who were leaving the city.
The report was covered in U.S. media, but there was very little reaction to it.
Yeah!
Yeah, classified.
Well, I have the numbers, which there's another number here, another metric that was released.
So first we have combatant deaths somewhere between 2,372 and 2,581.
That's a lot of drones, a lot of drone people being killed.
And that's not in the areas where they use them mostly.
And interesting, we have the non-combatant deaths, which is a range of 64 to 116.
But this number I liked.
Total number of strikes against terrorist targets outside areas of active hostilities.
We are just a-holes.
No wonder.
You can't just, you know, this death from the skies, people have no idea, and we don't think about it.
Eh, we have a surgical strike, it's all fine.
But just, drone, kill, dead.
I have a real problem with this strategy.
And, you know, these numbers, God knows, God knows these numbers, I don't know if there's anything true to them or not.
Seems low.
It's definitely low.
There's way too many.
I mean, at some point, you say, well, this is a bunch of propaganda that we're killing all these innocents, like the whole entire wedding, both families, that sort of thing.
But there's too many of these reports.
There's too many people looking into it.
And also, it's unconstitutional at this point.
We really have to stop doing this.
Because there's no oversight this way.
There is no oversight.
We know at least two American citizens were killed by drone without any due process.
It's just that we need oversight on this side.
Right.
One kid at a cafe, depending on the stories, he was sitting in a cafe where he could have been picked up if they wanted to do that.
It's no problem.
Or he's at some, you know, another wedding or people getting married a lot out of fear.
I don't know.
It's The way I see it, the real problem is that once the drones start flying over the United States...
That's when we should be really worried?
Well, yeah.
It'll be a little late.
Let's face it, we're not really worried about these murders that are going on all over Northern Africa and every place else.
No.
We're not worried to any extent.
I'm not worried.
Well, we don't hear about it.
I'm disgusted.
This is the point, because there's no oversight, because it's a covert program, when on Tuesdays, you know, the president takes a look at the list and goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, yeah, we'll take that one.
Yeah, that's good.
I almost get the feeling that Obama would actually like to be at the controls.
You should invite him down to Las Vegas.
Actually flying.
Yeah.
Okay, there it is, Mr.
President.
You can just push the red button.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
I tried watching the Eye in the Sky movie with, what's her name?
The famous British, you know, the award-winning old lady.
What's her name?
I don't know.
Vanessa Redgrave.
No, no, no.
Oh, come on.
I could not get through it.
I'll tell you who it is.
I always thought it was odd that she was in this.
This is Helen Mirren.
Oh, yeah.
She likes to work.
I guess.
It's well made and everything, but who cares?
I don't know.
What are you trying to tell us?
It didn't sit very well.
So while all this is going on, of course...
Before we leave the CIA, I might as well play this last CIA clip.
Because every time I hear one of these clips, I'm just thinking Hayden, the CIA director, him and Rodriguez, those two guys are the ones that are promoting the torture, torture, torture everybody.
Because it works!
Apparently.
CIA in Romania.
Meanwhile, a human rights lawyer has accused the CIA of paying Romania millions of dollars to host secret U.S. prisons that were the site of CIA torture programs under the George Bush administration.
The allegations were raised during a hearing of the European Court of Human Rights.
Romania, a close U.S. ally, has denied the charges.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, we're just doing this.
Nothing has changed.
Nothing has changed.
This CIA, man, those guys.
Meanwhile, Bashar al-Assad did an interview with Australian broadcaster SBS, which I didn't hear much about here, and of course his message was...
No, you didn't hear much about it.
It was not...
Broadcast.
Right.
Or rebroadcast or anything else.
You didn't hear much about it because it was suppressed.
Well, here is what he said.
Syria's President Assad is claiming that Western countries have sent security officials to help his government covertly fight militants.
He told Australian TV earlier this week the Western states opposed his rule but faced the threat of attacks at home in the name of Islam.
Actually, this is the double standard of the West in general.
They attack us politically and they send us officials to deal with us under the table, especially the security.
Including your government, they all do the same.
They don't want to upset the United States.
Actually, most of the Western officials, they only repeat what the United States want them to say.
This is the reality.
A Syrian war plane crashed northeast of Damascus on Friday.
An insurgents captured and killed its pilot, according to both Syrian and rebel sources.
Meanwhile, a monitoring group and rebels say that in a rare gain, insurgents, including the al-Qaeda-affiliated Nusra Front, seized a strategic town in Latakia province.
Government forces had captured it in February.
So I have to understand this correctly.
So we're funding YPG, we're funding al-Nusra, we're funding multiple groups who are there to attack, I guess, ISIL, but also they're against the Assad regime, and then we're also sending security forces to protect the Assad regime?
Well, I didn't quite get that clear.
It was almost as if he was saying, and maybe you have to play it again, He was saying, Western countries are helping us to fight the ISIS and all the rest of them because they're getting, you know, bombed in their countries and so they want us to be like a line of defense.
But they don't want to talk about it because the United States, this is what I heard, because the United States gets all bent out of shape if you're not doing what they tell you to do.
So I'm not so sure that we're helping him.
Hmm.
Okay, right.
You said Western countries, not us.
Yeah, right, right.
But they're doing it at the behest of the United States.
No, no, I got just the opposite opinion.
Really?
Really?
So our allies are undermining us?
Yeah, because they don't want to get their cities bombed.
They want ISIS to stop there in Syria.
You've got to keep them occupied.
So here, we'll send some helpers over there and you can use them.
This is a clusterfuck.
Well, that's not the worst of it.
I have the Breeland thing.
Oh, yeah, I have a clip.
Well, try mine because I believe mine came from RT. You probably have the same.
I'm from RT, yeah.
This is like...
Yeah, I got it.
Very interesting.
This is the...
Because NATO is supposed to be a defensive organization to keep, you know, aggression from coming at us.
But we all know NATO really is the sales arm of the military-industrial complex.
Exactly.
Hacked emails from the account of a former NATO Supreme Commander reportedly show that he privately plotted against President Obama over his policies in Russia.
Again, Chikian has got the story.
The hacked emails of retired General Philip Bridloff, who until recently was the commander of NATO forces in Europe, reveal the intense back-channel lobbying for the Obama administration to arm the Ukrainian government against the rebels in the East.
The emails are from 2014, at the height of the war in Ukraine.
Breitlov attempted to influence the administration through several channels, reaching out to various former and present officials, as well as seeking the advice of foreign policy experts.
Here's a snippet of what they discussed.
I don't see this White House really engaged by working with Europe or NATO. Frankly, I think we're a worry.
I seek your counsel on two fronts.
How to frame this opportunity in a time when all eyes are on ISIL. And two, how to work this personally with the President of the United States.
Given Obama's instruction to you not to start a war, this may be a tough sell.
This is a mess.
I do not understand our White House.
General Bridlov appears to have been frustrated by President Obama's reluctance to further militarize the conflict in Ukraine, and by doing so, increase the bloodshed.
In a string of emails which were addressed to officials, including Assistant Secretary Victoria Nuland and the U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine, Jeffrey Pyatt, Bridlov says, quote, Victoria, meaning Victoria Noland, can attest there is precious little support for lethal aid.
This has changed on the military side, but still not across the river." In this context, the now-retired general seems to have been working very hard to escalate the conflict in Ukraine.
What I didn't understand from this story is what was the source of the hack?
I know it was a Gmail account, which leads me to believe it could have been an inside hack more than just a hack.
No.
I don't think so.
The Russians are hacking everything.
That's why I'm totally convinced.
I'm okay with that, but it was not like they painted on anybody.
I noticed the same thing.
They talked that it was a hack, but there was no blame.
In this country, we get bent out of shape of who did the hack, and we're all concerned.
I think it's pretty clear that the Russians did the hack.
I think the Russians also, and this hasn't come out, we talk about it on the show, Hillary's whole server is probably owned by the Russians.
Because one of the things that we don't discuss when we talk about the Chinese hacks and North Korean hacks and all these other hacks and the hackers in the country, the Russians probably have some of the greatest hackers in the world.
They're the ones that do the antivirus stuff.
They're the ones who found Stuxnet.
The Russians are outrageously good at computer science.
But we never talk about it, for some reason, the mainstream media never discusses the Russians and their capabilities.
Hmm.
And so the Russians are obviously hacking a lot of this.
They're the ones who hacked at the Victoria and Newland phone conversation.
That was never really discussed as a Russian hack.
It was never really even played on anywhere.
We can't have this getting out there.
There is some suppression of this fact that the Russians are as good of hackers as we are.
They've helped decode the DCS, DCS, DSS, whatever that thing is that's on the DVDs.
There's that kid who came over here, a Russian kid.
This is a number of years ago.
Yes, this was the copyright.
Yeah, he comes over here and shows some sort of a hack that's outrageous.
Yeah.
And they decide to arrest him.
And we had the Russian guys who were doing all the flash trading.
They built all that.
Yeah.
Which, you know...
I don't think they want to scare the public with any of this.
Because if you...
If you really knew what the Russians could do, you would be kind of like, what are we doing making enemies to these people?
And meanwhile, apparently, Guccifer is gone.
He's gone.
They can't find him.
He escaped from prison.
I didn't know they ever arrested him.
Yeah, I had a...
This is very odd...
Very odd story.
Let's see, where was it?
A good hacker like that should be a...
Even though it seems unlikely to most people, but...
Here we go.
I got it here.
There's no reason a good hacker can't hack into a system and develop and design his own release papers.
So Marcel Leo Lazar, who was known as Guccifer, was discovered missing...
The FBI discovered he was missing...
Who were sent to interview him at a U.S. jail where he is supposed to be.
He was extracted.
Yeah.
And he's gone.
He's gone.
I don't know what happened.
Well, there's an untold story.
Where's the mainstream media on that?
Of course, the mainstream media won't even mention the guy.
No, they don't want to do that because when you mention Guccifer, then you have to bring up the hacked DNC documents, and then it all becomes about Hillary, and they just will not do that.
They will not do it.
So is his WordPress blog still up?
Probably.
I haven't looked.
I haven't seen anything new.
He disappeared.
So they extracted him.
That's funny.
Here it is.
Guccifer2.wordpress.com.
He put up an FAQ on June 30th.
Okay.
No new documents, though, as far as I know.
Just...
But this cool document, I'm sure you took the Excel spreadsheet with the email addresses of all these millionaires.
I downloaded everything on that site because I don't believe it's going to be up forever.
Oh, no.
It can't be.
I'm surprised this is...
I wasn't taking any chances of losing the material on there, so I have a copy.
I'm sure a lot of people have done that.
If you're smart, you do that because I was stunned that it was posted.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a lot of bad stuff on there.
All against Hillary.
Which makes me think there's worse stuff out there.
Yeah.
It's on a WordPress blog.
I mean, you go to a WordPress blog and you got all this criminal information.
It's unbelievable.
Oh, for those who don't know, it's Guccifer2.wordpress.com.
It's very simple.
Or just Google Guccifer 2.0 and you'll find it.
Yeah.
Yes.
It'll be up for a...
I would say if you see it in two months, I'd be surprised.
Before we thank some of our executive and associate executive producers today, I did want to just stop momentarily.
I've been avoiding it for as long as I could.
Because it makes me ill to think of it, and seeing pictures of it really rises bile in my throat.
You no longer need to send me pictures, news articles, or tweet anything about the Burger King Mac and Cheetos, okay?
It makes me want to throw up.
But, it is worth noting that just like we see with other fast food restaurants, this is a big ass media buy.
Big media buy.
Two examples of how it works, in case you didn't know what native advertising is.
Here is Chicago.
Over Doritos Locos Tacos, there's a new food hybrid in town.
Burger King has rolled out the Mac and Cheetos.
Yep, you heard that right.
Mac and Cheetos.
Essentially, they're Cheetos powdered mozzarella sticks, deep fried and filled with mac and cheese.
They're only available for eight weeks, or unless they run out sooner.
And customers will have to fork over $2.49 a pack.
So far, only a few Burger King locations, mostly in Southern California, have already started to offer the snack sticks.
So that's an ad, and that is bought and paid for.
No, that's not an ad.
That's a news report, Adam.
This is important news.
There's all kinds of things happening in the world, and this is right up there with the most important of them.
Well, case in point, Fox News took to the streets.
Mash-ups just keep getting crazier and crazier, but Burger King has taken it to the next level with the mac and Cheeto.
It's a deep-fried mac and cheese with a dusting of Cheetos.
Basically, it just looks like a giant Cheeto, but does it taste good?
We took to the streets to find out.
Now, let me guess.
If you take to the streets, if you do your man-on-the-street interviews, perhaps there would be one person who said, no, I don't like it that much.
I would...
Well, this is all shills, of course, so we don't worry about that.
No, you would think one person...
This was like Jimmy Kimmel on the street.
Exactly.
Legitimately, they'd find probably half the people that wouldn't like it, and half of them never had it.
But that's not what the advertiser paid for.
No, but before you play that, which I know what you're doing, and I agree with that, that this is all such bullshit...
What comes to mind to me immediately is to do the man on the street thing.
That has got to cost a fortune.
As a native ad?
No, a media buy?
Sure, sure.
I mean, just doing the bullcrap story is one thing, and that's got to cost you at least a couple of ads, normal ads.
Yeah.
This has got to be 5X. Unless Fox wanted it so bad that this is what they just chum the water with.
We'll do this for you.
We'll do that for you if you give us one of these gigs.
And for people asking me in the chat room, why are you playing it on your show?
To teach you.
You need to understand what is happening.
The taste is good, so the combination is not a failure.
I like the outside.
It's crispy.
It's a little bit more of a kick.
It's not too salty.
I can't wax poetic about this, but it's good.
Would you expect to like mac and cheese and Cheetos together?
Like this?
Yeah, I think this is a good snack.
It's got both the best rolls.
I think it's really good.
I like the outside.
It's kind of crispy.
I didn't really know what to expect from a mac and Cheeto, frankly.
But yeah, it's about what I expected.
Oh, wow.
I'm surprised it doesn't taste as good as it does.
It goes to a nice mixture.
I think you even slipped in the macaroni shell.
Now you get the idea.
Hold on a second.
Even when they go out and ask about, you know, if Hillary Clinton shot somebody in the street, they don't ask a million people.
They ask three.
Oh, no.
This kept going.
There's another 20 seconds.
Maybe some pasta in there?
Oh, it's good!
Oh, good!
Oh, my God!
I didn't get that.
It's definitely different.
I didn't think I would buy them if I didn't try it right here, so...
Dangerously cheesy.
I would probably take my kids to Burger King to buy this, right?
There's mac and cheese and Cheetos.
Pretty simple as that.
Would these Cheetos make Chester proud?
Let us know at FXN Leisure.
And not a single obese person in the bunch who are testing.
How can you walk down the streets of any American city and not find an obese person who would love mac and Cheetos?
Obese persons have a harder...
It's a little harder for them to get acting gigs.
Mac and Cheese by Ayn Rand.
And with that, I would like to say in the morning to you and thank you for your courage, John C. Or the C stands for Canadian Dollarets Dvorak.
Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
Also in the morning to all the ships and sea, boots on the ground, subs in the water, feet in the air, and all the dames and knights out there.
And in the morning to everyone in the chat room, of course, noagendastream.com, and Nick the Rat, who brought us artwork for episode 838.
Nice to have...
Let's have Nick back on the stick.
There were a number of nice pieces.
Nick on the stick.
This was the Hillary Clinton Tommy gun shot, which was just, it just worked.
It worked so well.
Very nice.
Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can find all of these submissions and where we always choose from right after the show, and of course we appreciate the work that our artists do.
Anything you wanted to add about the art?
Was there something we needed to mention?
Was there?
I forgot.
I don't know.
I know we looked at the art selection.
We had a good selection.
A lot of people threw art up.
And I think there were three pieces we kind of liked.
Yeah, pieces that can be used for newsletters, etc.
Yeah, so we'll probably use them as Evergreen somewhere else, but the Nick the Rat one with the machine gun thing was good because it was a good reference to her liking to shoot Tommy guns, and that was a Tommy gun.
And that look on her face was a good Hillary face to use with that crazy look on her face.
That was a good piece.
I don't know.
I don't know what I was supposed to say.
It doesn't matter.
Well, be better.
Thank you.
Just be better.
Let's thank some people, John.
Yes.
We do have a few people to thank.
Right off the top, we have our Archduke.
I believe he's not a Grand Duke yet, is he?
He's Archduke.
Archduke still.
I believe.
I believe.
Yeah, this is...
Well, he must be very close.
Yeah, he's still the Archduke, he says.
He's getting there.
The Grand Duke is a long haul.
From Tigard, Oregon.
Dwayne Melanson.
ITM, sir, I'm the Archduke of the Pacific Northwest.
I've enjoyed your analysis lately, as well as the Brexit coverage.
A lot of people did like the Brexit coverage.
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Next, we have...
I'm going to bitch about this, but if you can tell me who it was, I'll read it.
James Nathpliotis?
Yeah, Nath...
Nathpliotis.
Yeah, he was...
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I don't...
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Yes.
Oh, as a year ago, I found you guys on the YouTube channel, Conspiracy Archive.
Thanks.
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I've been hooked ever since.
I also got my brother hooked on you guys a few months ago, of which he's already donated, so he can't call him out.
However, I've been a douchebag since then.
I've worked in corporate IT for a long time in agreement with John's PCMag article from a few years ago.
Big data is a marketing scam.
I would write something like that.
Nice.
By some definitions of big data, we already have a product called Teradata that has been around since the 80s.
All the big companies use them, and I bet most of the tech hornies have never heard of them.
Hmm.
Anyway, keep up the good work.
Can I have a shut up already?
It's science.
The Alex Jones spider goats or babies in cows.
This is one of the greatest.
Get out of my vagina.
He's got a lot here.
Ah, jeez.
Okay.
What else is he got?
Get out of my vagina.
Scream and don't eat me, Hillary.
Thanks.
That's quite a list.
We try to keep it at three if at all possible, but...
Yeah.
We'll do...
But he's got 700 from...
And he's from De Plain, Illinois.
Des Plains.
Anyway.
Shut up already!
It's science!
My God!
For 25 years, they've been growing babies and cows!
Get out of my vagina!
Can they eat me, Hillary Clinton?
You've got karma.
Holy mackerel, that was outrageous.
Especially after the complaining.
Right.
I think that touched it up.
I don't know, it's too many.
Ben and you nailed it.
Now we have...
Grants Pass, I'm sorry, Rancho Palos Verdes.
Henry Clay's, Clay's, Clay's, C-L-A-E-Y-S. Clay's, Clay's, C-L-A-E-Y-S. Clay's.
And he's got a simple note for $333.33.
Thanks and keep it up.
We'll give him a Karma anyway.
Yeah, absolutely.
You've got Karma.
Okay, now I got Russ Williamson in Grants Pass, Oregon, $333.33.
He actually sent a check-in.
Nice.
Much to be appreciated.
Let me put my reading glasses on.
I know it's pathetic.
Hello, great purveyors of truth.
First of all, I want to say you two are doing our country and its citizens a great service.
Keep up the great work and thank you.
And I have an F cancer for my father-in-law, Edward, who just lost a valiant fight against pancreatic cancer.
Some karma for the family to get through this great loss and a whip Obama's ass.
And then he's got a birthday.
He should be on the list.
He's going to be 60 today.
Oh!
And he says 73's KG7ZPF. Nah, 73's Kilo5 Alpha Charlie Charlie.
And I might point out, I have 7 of the 13 colonies already on my CUSO list.
Yeah.
This weekend, I'll explain what that is, this weekend is a 13 colonies contest, and you collect all 13 of them.
There's special event stations, and you get a contact, and you get them all, then you get a prize.
What might the prize be?
Like a sticker?
What, uh, is this going on now?
13 colonies, you're referring to the 13 original colonies of the United States.
Yeah, yeah, and so they have these special events stations.
And you have seven, you say?
Yeah, of the 13.
I've got seven already.
What seven do you have?
Oh, I don't have the list here, but I have, uh, you know, I'm, I don't know.
What's the tough one?
Delaware.
No, I have Delaware.
I have Massachusetts.
I have Maryland.
Vermont's got to be a tough one.
I don't have Vermont.
Even worse would be New Hampshire because there's so many mountains there you can't get a signal.
I don't have New Hampshire yet.
You'll never get New Hampshire.
Get out there!
Whoopin' whoopin' whoopin' whoopin' whoopin' whoopin' whoopin' whoopin' the Constitution!
Stop!
You've got karma.
There you go!
Last but not least is Wesley Young in Jamestown, New York.
I looked and looked and looked.
I can't find anybody named Wesley Young in my email.
And if you have something, send us a note if you want something to say.
Send us a note.
Put it on the subject line, missing in action.
And anyways, $300 from Jamestown, New York, and we'll give you a karma.
I don't have anything either.
We have received email from Wesley Clark in the past, but I don't see anything here.
Wesley Clark is not Wesley Young.
Oh, Wesley Young.
I'm sorry.
Hold on.
You look for Wesley Young.
You won't find him.
Wesley Young?
You're right.
I have no idea.
How did that happen?
I don't know.
It probably came in as a company name or something.
I don't know how we...
Okay.
Karma, as requested.
You've got Karma.
And that's our group for our executive and, well, no associate executive producers, all executive producers, which is typical of a TV show.
I want to thank them and everyone else who contributes.
We'll talk about them in the second part of the show.
And I want to remind you that we do have another show coming up next Thursday.
It's a holiday.
We're in the middle of the holiday.
Tomorrow is 4th of July.
Nobody listens to these shows.
They ignore us.
And you're already drunk and I'm stoned, so there you go.
Yeah, there you go.
So if you can, please help us.
That's right!
While you're out there, why don't you propagate the formula on the fourth?
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Water! Order!
Shut up, slave!
Shut up!
All right.
Now, I've got a little entremant if you wanted something funny.
Please, about time.
This will be amusing.
This is...
Can I guess?
Yeah, I guess.
Dukakis.
No, I do want to talk about that.
Dukakis is interesting.
C-SPAN played over the weekend.
This was a killer for me, for time killer.
They played all the...
Speeches when you're elected at the convention and you come up and you give your speech.
They played all of them.
Well, not all.
And of course, you watched all of them.
I did.
Yeah, that's great.
I watched Truman.
I watched Kerry.
Oh, Kerry's terrible.
I watched Dukakis.
Well, let's go with that.
This is Dukakis.
This is the middle of his little speech and I want to say something first because I never noticed this when it ran and I think it's because the Seinfeld show appeared after 1988.
I'm not sure when it first started but I'm absolutely sure that George It's based on Dukakis?
Yes.
Dukakis is...
Well, before you play, Dukakis is up there.
He's got this George smirk.
Except for the lack of a bald head, he's got the smirk.
He's got that stupid look, that look of, you know, I got something on everybody.
It was so annoying to watch Dukakis when you were familiar with the Seinfeld show that it just was unbelievable.
This is typical of what he had to say.
Does he actually speak?
My friends, we all enrich.
My friends as president, I'm going to be setting goals for our country.
Not goals for our government working alone.
I mean goals for our people working together.
working together.
I want businesses in this country to be wise enough and innovative enough to retrain their workers and retool their factories and to help rebuild their communities.
I want students and office workers and retired teachers to share with a neighbor the precious gift of literacy.
Yeah, he'd.
I agree.
The sound is George Costanza, but the cadence is something different.
I don't think the cadence...
The cadence is more New England.
It just wants to be Kennedy.
Yeah, Kennedy.
Kennedy, right.
But he's got the smirks and the little sly looks.
But if you listen to the last thing he suggested there, the first thing I said to myself...
What about the factories?
Is literacy a real problem in this country so much that you should go to your next door neighbor and teach him to read?
Yes, it is now.
Hell yes.
We are an illiterate country.
Do you ever look at...
No, you don't.
Just look at Facebag.
Yeah, we are becoming completely illiterate.
We are becoming...
This is 1988.
Well, that's when it all started.
There was way before face-bagging.
But what he says is, you should go to your next-door neighbor and teach them to read.
Yeah.
That's what he said.
And then he's speaking in Spanish half the time, and there was a bunch of signage that was propped up by the delegates, and one of them was, speaking English only is un-American.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, we've been through all that.
It's back.
It's the same crap.
Dukakis was just an outrageous loser.
Since we're on this, I ran into the Barry Goldwater one.
Alright, explain who Barry Goldwater is.
Barry Goldwater was the right-wing nut that was running for president in 1964.
Ah, he was Trump 1.0, you mean.
The original Trump.
Well, when you listen to him, not really.
But he was the right-wing guy.
The John Birch Society was behind him, and all the right-wingers, all right-winger, right-winger.
John Birch Society, we might as well say that as well.
Go ahead.
Do you know anything about it?
Yeah, John Birch Society, the original crackpot conspiracy theorist group.
The John Birch Society, which was run by a guy named Welch, was a...
I don't know, you can call them conspiracy people, but they're very traditional.
A lot of their...
Constitutionalists, maybe we should say that.
I don't even know if that was it.
It's a very strange operation at the time, but it was very patriotic, pro-America and all the rest of it.
And they felt that Reagan was actually, I would say, as a child of that thinking, as it matured.
Barry Goldwater was the thinking itself at the moment.
And so I was kind of stunned, having kind of familiar with this during that era.
In fact, I actually snuck into this convention.
It was in the Cow Palace in San Francisco, the 1964 convention.
And met a couple of interesting girls that pretended to be French, and they were actually from Daly City.
It was very annoying.
Really?
So did you speak French with them?
No, they were so long.
Bonjour, girls.
Get back to the point.
No, let's stick with bonjour, girls.
Je m'appelle Jean-Claude.
Bonjour, girls.
Comment allez-vous?
So Barry Goldwater was the none-dare-call-it-treason guy.
He wrote a couple books.
He was a senator from Arizona.
I always wanted to meet him because he's...
Apparently an outstanding photographer, and it seemed like you could go meet him and cajole him and get a free picture.
That's how you collect art.
So, just reading from the Book of Knowledge, the John Birch Society, in its own words, a conservative advocacy group supporting anti-communism and limited government.
So, maybe more like Ron Paul, perhaps.
Well, the anti-communism thing was a big deal during that era, because we were still in the Cold War.
Yeah, we had a bunch of comies running around, yeah.
So I'm listening to this, and I want to ask you a couple of questions.
Listen carefully to what he has to say.
It's not a short clip, but it's not a long clip.
But this is just a piece of his acceptance speech.
That's what I'm talking about.
And I can see in the distant and yet recognizable future...
The outlines of a world worthy of our dedication, our every risk, our every effort, our every sacrifice along the way.
Yes, a world that will redeem the suffering of those who will be liberated from tyranny.
I can see, and I suggest that all thoughtful men must contemplate the flowering of an Atlantic civilization.
the whole of Europe are unified and freed, trading it openly across its borders, communicating openly across the world.
Now, this is a goal far, far more meaningful than a moonshot.
Did he say moonshine?
Yeah.
Or moonshot?
Moonshot.
Is he just calling for New World Order?
Is that what I'm hearing him say?
Yes.
Yeah.
It's a truly inspiring goal for all free men to set for themselves during the latter half of the 20th century.
I can see and all free men must thrill to the advance of this Atlantic civilization joined by its great ocean highway to the United States.
What a destiny!
What a destiny can be ours to stand as a great central pillar linking Europe, the Americas, and the venerable and vital peoples and cultures of the Pacific.
I can see a day when all the Americas, north and south, will be linked in a mighty system, a system in which the errors and misunderstandings of the past will be submerged one by one in a rising tide of prosperity a system in which the errors and misunderstandings of the past will We know that the misunderstandings of centuries are not to be wiped away in a day or wiped away in an hour.
But we pledge, we pledge that human sympathy were our neighbors to the south, call an attitude of simpatico.
No less than life and self-interest will be our guide.
Subjugation is liberation!
Contradiction is truth!
Those are the facts of this world!
And you will all surrender to them!
You pigs in human clothes!
I don't know.
No wonder he didn't do it.
He's talking about the EU, one world government?
Yes.
How does this match with today's conservative movement?
Not at all.
That's really odd.
I haven't heard that probably, I don't know, ever.
That's a good one.
And when I listened to it, it was just jaw-dropping.
Huh.
Because it's just opposite of what everyone's been talking about when they...
Oh, Barry Goldwater's a nut.
He's not talking about sovereignty.
He's not talking about Americanism.
He's not talking about nationalism.
He's talking about one world government.
Maybe saying we're going to lead it.
Yeah.
Which is kind of what...
But this is the kind of thing you get from the Democrats.
Well, that just proves that it's all the same party.
It's all the same.
All the same people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, that was...
That was good.
I like that.
I like a little bit of history.
Some little history is nice.
Speaking of eye...
By the way, I should say something.
Yes?
Like those two clips, the Dukakis thing and the Goldwater thing, that shows we could have been doing this show in 1988 or 1964.
Yes, and hand-delivering vinyl to everybody.
That would have been great.
Well, I guess the problem would be that the distribution of the show would be an issue.
Yes, yes.
And delivering 45s.
Oh, honey, my box of 45s came.
How long is the show this week?
Now, unfortunately, we're going to do a little lesson in French.
Jean-Claude.
How is your Francais?
This is Junker the Drunker.
This is Jean-Claude Juncker.
Speaking in front of European Parliament regarding Brexit.
And I shall play this little ditty in French, and we may have to replay it, but I will certainly translate it for you.
Here he is.
Your French may be too rusty.
It's very, yeah, it's, oh, I heard when it's raining in Aruba.
Which means, we must know that those who observe us from afar are worried.
I have seen and heard and listened to several of the leaders of other planets.
They are very worried because they question themselves about the path the European Union will follow.
Thus we must reassure both Europeans and those who observe us from afar.
That's what it sounds like he said.
I find it hard to believe that he's talking about other planets.
Yeah, he is.
You can even hear him.
Listen to the line.
He's really saying it, John. John.
He is really saying it.
Might have a second meaning.
I'm going to my French-English dictionary.
Okay.
Now, I would love to say, of course the leaders of the world know exactly all about the off-world leaders, but I think he was just drunk.
Well, that's always a possibility.
He's looking through his telescope.
I have no idea.
I think it's one of the funniest things he's ever said.
There's other planets.
He said of other planets.
Leaders of other planets.
Dirigeants d'autres planets.
It's as clear as day.
Yeah.
I can see you're underwhelmed, but I thought it was quite interesting.
Because I just think it was like some one of those words that has another meaning.
I don't believe so.
It was the whole structure.
I said other, he said other planet, there's no question about that.
Yeah, and that is, the directors, the leaders of other planets.
Okay, let's go.
Maybe he meant to say pays, possibly, but he was drunk.
You know, pays, planet, whatever.
He keeps coming up as planet.
But maybe he meant pays, as in other countries.
Other lands?
Oh, you think he may have slipped the word.
Possibly.
Well, because he is saying those who observe us from afar are worried, and it could be other leaders of other places.
Yeah, the planet is afar.
I don't know.
This guy has no business running anything, as far as I'm concerned.
And nor does the woman who we accurately predicted would be running hard and heavy for the Cameron spot in the United Kingdom.
I hope she doesn't do that.
Oh, yes.
Theresa May, everybody.
I've invited you here today to announce my candidacy to become leader of the Conservative Party and Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.
And I do so for three clear reasons.
Okay.
First, following last week's referendum, our country needs strong, proven leadership to steer us through this period of economic and political uncertainty and to negotiate the best possible terms as we leave the European Union.
We need leadership that can unite our party and our country.
With the Labour Party tearing itself to pieces and divisive nationalists in Scotland and Wales, it is nothing less than the patriotic duty of our party to unite and govern in the best interests of the whole country.
And third, we need a bold, new, positive vision for the future of our country.
A vision of a country that works not for a privileged few, but for every one of us.
Brexit means Brexit.
The campaign was fought, the vote was held, turnout was high, and the public gave their verdict.
There must be no attempts to remain inside the EU, no attempts to rejoin it through the back door and no second referendum.
There should be no general election until 2020.
Sorry, a little remix.
...should be a normal statement held in the normal way at the normal time and no emergency budget.
And there should be no decision to invoke Article 50 until the British negotiating strategy is agreed and clear.
I just love English Parliament.
Do you think that this failure to invoke Article 50...
Yes.
They're not going to do it.
I don't think so either.
Well, of course, we had the big demonstration over the weekend in London.
I think 50,000 people rallying against the Brexit vote.
All of them wearing European stuff and with signage.
Professional signs, and there was a professional guy there.
The leader of all things.
I can't believe the Brits...
Listen, they should...
You want someone drawn and courted?
It should be that guy.
You know what I'm talking about?
Yeah, your buddy.
Thousands of people have rallied through London to protest against Britain's decision to leave the European Union.
Some were draped in EU flags, while others waved banners backing the bloc.
France, London, or further afield, they all had one thing in common.
Mutual shock over the result of the Brexit vote.
All the disgusting behavior that's been going on throughout the country with racism and xenophobia, it's just unacceptable.
You know, I just want to show the nation that we're not giving up on the EU. We need the EU. The NHS needs the EU. We would have no staffing wherever I work.
That's really interesting what she's saying there.
And what I hear everybody saying who is against Brexit is, well, no freedom of movement, no freedom of movement, no freedom of movement.
What she's saying is, if there was a Brexit, there'd be no freedom of movement, and therefore we'd have no nurses, no general practitioners, the national health system would disintegrate overnight.
The NHS needs the EU. We would have no staffing wherever I work down in South London if it wasn't for free movement of people.
10% of British university funding comes from the European Union and I don't think it's going to be replaced by our austerity government so I think this is going to do terrible things to British science, British technology, British research.
If we're the home of democracy, parliamentary democracy, well they've got to give us a general action.
They can't just push this through saying the people have spoken because the people have been lied to.
March ended peacefully with a rally outside parliament where political activist and musician Sir Bob Geldof urged young people not to give up the fight.
Don't go online and vent your indignation to your mates and think you've achieved something.
You've achieved nothing.
You've just vented into the atmosphere.
Get out on the streets with your friends in the colleges.
Get active.
Properly active.
And go and meet the people who voted to get out and understand why they voted out and try and persuade them that maybe it was a wrong decision.
An estimated 50,000 people took part in a demonstration.
Bob Geldof, what a dick.
He's a dick.
And he's a shill, and they hire him, but somehow, I don't know if it works, but there's this belief that Bob can do it all.
I mean, he was so responsible for USA for Africa, we are the world, all that money went to warlords.
He's so good!
And he's Irish, so he has a whole other issue going on with the Brexit.
Mimi, both of us, we have a couple of friends in Cornwall, who we visit once in a while, and they are freaked because of this NHS thing.
Totally.
Oh, we're all gonna die.
We're not gonna have any doctors.
We're not gonna have any nurses.
We're not gonna have anybody working here anymore.
I don't know what we're gonna do.
Right.
And no matter what you do, you can't convince them otherwise.
It's not possible.
Hmm.
And is this...
So, what was new to me was because there's no freedom of movement for people, which, of course, even before the EU, you could get in and now you could work.
It's just, you know, it's not going to be set in stone.
You need a new agreement.
It's not the end of the world.
But it seems highly unlikely.
There's no medical professionals.
They don't train them in the UK. That's what it seems like.
And then there's this we need EU for the money for national health system.
Is the EU paying for a portion of that?
I get the impression from the guys who want to stay or at least they give the impression that apparently Britain is broke And useless.
They can't produce their own, anybody that can do any of this kind of work.
They apparently have no money whatsoever.
And they're completely dependent.
They're like a welfare state in the EU itself.
Even though the world's fifth biggest economy and the second biggest in the EU, for some reason, I guess they're running everything at a loss.
I have no idea.
It makes no sense.
Yeah, it's baffling to me.
But that is the main thing.
The vote was xenophobes and racists.
We got it.
Old, white, xenophobes and racists.
But really, the big problem is the loss of freedom of movement of people.
Somehow everyone thinks that they'll not be able to move anywhere or go anywhere in Europe.
How did they get this impression?
I don't know, but you've seen the emails we get.
Whenever someone is saying, hey, I don't like this Brexit, it's all about, I won't be able to move to a European country and work there.
I said, what is the point then?
You want to leave.
You actually want to Brexit.
You just don't want to have to...
In the real way.
Yeah, you just don't want to have to prove that you're a freelance freeloader or whatever.
It's just, you know...
Yeah, you'll have to prove to the country...
Almost every letter we get says something like that.
Yeah.
I want to do this, I want to do that, and I can't do it now.
Which is not...
I don't see that part of it.
You can get a passport.
Yeah, I don't see the problem.
You gotta have a passport anyway.
Yeah.
You have to do an exit from Britain.
You have to go through passport control.
It's not there.
Is it passport control?
It's not like other countries?
I don't know.
It feels very strange that that seems to be the main driver.
And then when you see these demonstrations like the one you're talking about.
Yeah.
It's almost people that hate being British.
That's what it feels like.
It's like they hate being British, they like the idea of being European, and they think it's fantastic.
I don't know, this is again some function of the educational system.
And I don't know what, who, where, how it happened, how it began, but there's kind of a dislike of Propagandized dislike of being British.
In fact, I got a nasty note from somebody.
I should dig it up.
I probably can find it.
Criticizing me for saying, well, this is an interesting part of British history.
He said, British history.
He went on and on and blasted me saying that everybody's British and just some anti-British screed.
And it's like British, British.
There's something going on and it's embedded in the society.
Well, what I believe the Brits should take a look at that and be very, very happy about this because this is a big deal.
In the Netherlands, for sure.
But it's not getting the exposure it should.
And this is the European Parliament's proposed legislation for retirement and for pensions.
And they're going to take over or they're trying to take over the pensions.
Well, here, I read from this, the occupational pensions, revision of the institutions for occupational retirement.
Of course, the thing that's great about pensions is Is you have this big pot of money, and governments like to steal that.
Our Social Security is being stolen.
Right.
By law, the Social Security thing should be...
Funded.
Always.
100%.
And not accessible for the general funds.
You can't take money, borrow.
I'm just borrowing it.
I'll bring it back tomorrow.
You can't do that.
But they've done it.
Yes, and in the EU, now it's going to be institutional.
So here it is.
In 2014, the European Commission proposed a revision of the existing Institutions for Occupational Retirement Provision Directive 2003, which covers certain occupational pension savings.
These are overwhelmingly in the United Kingdom at 55.9% of the assets, and the Netherlands, here's the scary one, at 30.7%.
So these are woefully underfunded.
The proposed revision aims to improve the governance, risk management, transparency, and information provisions of these pensions, and help increase cross-border IORP activity, strengthening the single market.
So they would like, now they're coming for your pensions, people.
And Brits, she should be very happy you're not a part of that shit.
It really is outrageous.
The Dutch are just finally catching on to this because it was kept very quiet in Parliament.
Just take a look at Greece.
Yeah, exactly.
Just look at Greece.
Yes.
I was thinking about these bureaucrats and they were making all these rules and regulations constantly like a machine just cranking this stuff out.
And I kind of figured out what the rationale is, which is, you know, we've got to have, and that's what they talked about, the French losing their 35-hour work week.
If you're going to be all in the same one single giant state, it has to be kind of the same from country to country, so there's no competition issues.
You have the same rules.
So I have the same rules as you have.
I'm French and you're Belgian, and I have to have the same rules for making wine that you have.
I have the same rules for making cheese that the Dutch have.
So nobody has an advantage.
That's what everybody wants.
Everyone wants to be a blob of grey goo equal to everybody else.
I don't think...
It's a sickness.
It's a sickness.
No, I think a lot of people have been...
Well, I think, yeah, the people doing the demonstrations in London, I'm sure they are.
Yes.
Yeah, let's all be the same.
You know, hold hands and sing a song.
No, I'll tell you, you know, it gets even worse.
Because it's rife.
It's all over.
Everything is, we have to all be equal and fair to everybody.
And one of my major gripes about this political correct naming stuff was brought up in the Huffington Post.
Let's see, they had an interview with transgender fashion designer Adrian Wu, who says the gay rights acronym LGBT, or lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender, is not really politically correct anymore.
No?
I heard this too.
Yeah.
You know why?
Gender non-conforming people have been left out of the discussion for a very long time simply because people didn't know they could be non-binary until now.
But the reality is that gender is a spectrum and male and female are not the only gender identity.
So, I believe that my acronym is still the best one and should be adopted by the United Nations and the Federation of Planets, possibly.
Which is LGBTQIAAP. It covers everybody.
I think we should start a website and maybe collect some money.
I like the idea.
How exactly do we collect the money?
Well, you know, you just put up a tip jar.
People flock to it.
And this was also something that at least the transgender came up this past week as we got the official word from Ashton Carter, Secretary of Defense.
Transgenders now welcome in the United States military.
With the upper end of their range of estimates of around 7,000 in the active component and 4,000 in the reserves.
That's a lot.
But a relatively few in number.
We're talking about talented and trained Americans who are serving their country with honor and distinction.
We invest hundreds of thousands of dollars to train and develop each individual.
And we want to take the opportunity to retain people whose talent we've invested in and who've proven themselves.
The reality is that we have transgender service members serving in uniform today.
And I have a responsibility to them and to their commanders to provide them both with clearer and more consistent guidance than is provided by current policies.
Also, right now, most of our transgender service members must go outside the military medical system Now, I like this.
I think it's very good.
I'm all for everyone being eligible to serve in our military if you want to do that, or if that's the only way you can get rid of your student loan, because that seems to be a nice little scam that's set up.
But man, in my lifetime, we've gone from Klinger on M.A.S.H. to this.
I mean, that's mind-boggling when you think about it.
You remember Klinger, man?
You remember that?
That must have dawned on you sometime last night.
It did.
As I'm watching this clip, I'm thinking, remember Klinger?
What was it, Section 8?
He was trying to get kicked out.
He was trying to get kicked out for dressing like a woman.
And even then, the U.S. military was fair.
Yeah, they just ignored him.
It was funny.
Of course, I doubt these are even in reruns.
I don't think you can have this on television anymore.
Too offensive.
It's way too offensive.
John McCain is a little irked about this.
Not for the reasons you What do you think?
I've just heard about it when you have.
It's very hard for me right now to make a judgment.
I will be calling up the chiefs of the services, those men in uniform who are the heads of the military, and asking their views, including the costs of implementing, I'm talking about the fiscal costs of implementing some of these changes.
And we'll be having hearings, so it's hard for me to make...
I can't wait for these hearings.
You know we're gonna have some dynamite transgendered folks.
Oh, it's going to be fantastic.
It's going to be great.
I can just wait to see John McCain's face.
Talk about a waste of money.
You know, they don't tell McCain anything, even though he's ahead of it.
He should be told.
He should be told.
Of course, of course.
In advance.
Of course.
But he wasn't.
So now, okay, he's going to pull one of these stunts where you say, okay, we're going to have a hearing.
You guys have got nothing better to do than sit around and sit at the table all day instead of doing some other stuff, which is just paperwork, but still.
Yeah.
Maybe take a few days.
You don't know.
Okay, so they're going to have to sit there and then they're going to be grilled.
And McCain, who's an old school, is not happy, you can tell.
And he's going to make their lives miserable.
Yeah.
That is actually a problem.
This guy.
Yeah, everyone should be in.
Well, it's a funny bit.
So let's play...
It's sad is what it is.
I want to play this kind of rundown on the Clinton email Lynch story as it ran on CBS. And move on now to the political firestorm over that meeting between Bill Clinton and Attorney General Loretta Lynch.
Her department investigating, of course, Hillary Clinton's private email server.
Well, tonight, Lynch is calling that meeting a mistake.
And Donald Trump, with some sharp words of his own tonight, calling this proof that his opponent cannot be trusted.
ABC's David Wright on the campaign trail for us tonight.
Attorney General Loretta Lynch today admitted her private meeting with Bill Clinton on the tarmac in Phoenix was a mistake.
I certainly wouldn't do it again.
Lynch and Clinton both insist the 20-minute or so meeting Monday was just a friendly chat about golf and grandchildren while their planes happened to be parked near each other.
It seems like, you know, he's talking about golf and grandchildren.
I love my grandchildren so much.
But if I talk about him for more than about 9 or 10 seconds, you know, what are we...
Today in Denver, Donald Trump...
It reminds me a bit of you.
I love my grandchildren.
I know most of their names.
Today in Denver, Donald Trump mocked the idea they were so busy talking about grandkids that Hillary Clinton's emails never came up.
I love that one.
I love that one.
I love, love, love that one.
And look at the beautiful...
I love these kids.
After that, what are you going to say, right?
As the nation's top law enforcement officer, Lynch has final say over the outcome of the FBI probe.
ABC News has learned an FBI interview with Clinton could take place within days.
In some ways, she owes her Justice Department career to Bill Clinton.
He appointed her as a U.S. attorney back in the 90s, all of which, she now admits, contributes to a perception of bias.
The fact that the meeting that I had is now casting a shadow is something that I take seriously And deeply and painfully.
Lynch now says once and for all she'll follow whatever recommendations are made by the lawyers and agents investigating this case.
While Trump says Bill Clinton has managed to make his wife's email problem worse.
He opened up a Pandora's box and it shows what's going on and it shows what's happening with our laws and with our government.
So far, no comment from Secretary Clinton or her campaign about that.
I have three quick clips I want to play before you get into this.
This is just an overview of how this meeting was reported on.
First by Andrea Mitchell, CNN. As though there weren't enough conspiracy theories out there already.
He did say hello to Loretta Lynch, met with her for about 30 minutes.
She said it was completely social.
They talked about grandchildren.
But this has led to a lot of conspiracy theories that even before Hillary Clinton has been interviewed by the FBI, to our knowledge, that somehow this is Bill Clinton talking to Loretta Lynch about clearing Hillary Clinton of the email investigation.
It does, I guess, fuel the conspiracy theorists and shows that it wasn't smart of either of them to have had a private meeting.
Part of what you're hearing from Republicans is that this was in some way arranged beforehand.
It wasn't.
As you pointed out, they happened to be at the same tarmac at the same time.
It's protocol for former President Clinton to greet someone like this and say hello.
And as you say, they talked about grandkids.
It's protocol, John.
I'm sorry.
Hold on a second.
Andre and the other one.
Do we have a tape?
Did somebody record this so we know that's what they talked about?
Oh, well, hold on a second.
I have the answer for you.
Xi, as a matter of fact, landed on time.
He and his entourage were running late, according to my sources.
They then make the decision, they meaning the president's team, former president's team, They wait for her to land.
She arrives.
Some people step off of her plane.
The former president steps into her plane.
They then speak for 30 minutes privately.
The FBI there on the tarmac instructing everybody around.
No photos, no pictures, no cell phones.
He then gets off the plane, gets on his own plane.
He departs.
She continues on with her planned visit.
Okay.
Why was the president in Phoenix, do we know?
To be honest with you, we have no idea.
And the Attorney General, as a matter of fact, she said they talked about him playing golf.
At this very moment, as I'm talking to you, I've reached out to several sources, those with intimate knowledge of his movements, because they work with these dignitaries when they come into Phoenix.
Not one so far has said that he played golf.
I'm not saying that he didn't play golf.
I'm just saying I have yet to confirm that he played golf.
Yeah, we don't know what he was doing.
Why?
He may have gotten it wrong.
This report is the guy who broke the story in Phoenix locally.
He may have gotten it wrong.
Maybe he meant to say Secret Service, but what was the FBI doing there saying no photos, no photos?
That's troubling.
Well, it's also troubling the reporting in general.
One group says he was on the tarmac, bumped into her coincidentally.
Yes, and it's protocol, John.
It's protocol.
Yeah, no, that's a new one.
I've never heard that one.
It's protocol.
Protocol.
But now if he went and snuck into the other plane, and then they had a half-hour meeting, come on.
Here's Gail.
Oh, and it's a conspiracy theory.
I like that.
What conspiracy theory?
She said it three times.
It fuels conspiracy theory.
Yeah, she's just trying to kind of...
Cover!
CBS, Gail.
But John, it's almost being treated like this is a house of cards scene.
If it was going to be something that was so secretive, they wouldn't have done it in such a public place is what some people are saying.
And could we take him at their word?
Listen, we're talking about our grandkids and he's asking me about my husband.
Could that possibly be true?
It might be true, but why have the meaning at all?
She's investigating his wife.
It's not like a house of cards scene, but no.
It was meant to be a clandestine meeting.
I'm quite convinced Bill Clinton flew there just to bump into her.
And we wouldn't have known about it if the local media, because the guy who was on O'Reilly, who we heard earlier, he was the one that was getting calls from his sources at the airport.
Hey, they're in the hangar.
I get all kinds of calls when stuff happens like that.
The aviation community is tight.
Uh, let's see.
Today's show, they got Halperin from Bloomberg on to talk about it.
Mark, to the optics of this, the Clintons know better than anyone else what this, the appearance in this divisive world we live in.
Why this era?
Why this unnecessary meeting?
The most obvious explanation, and probably the right one, is Bill Clinton is a really social guy, right?
And we've all seen situations where famous people on the tarmac, the two planes, it's kind of fun, hey, let's go over and visit.
Someone, Bill Clinton, Loretta Lynch, or someone who worked for them standing there should have said, this is the wrong time for a social meeting.
Yeah.
He's a really social guy, though, you know?
Yeah, that would be.
That would have happened if it wasn't a bull crap.
It was a real meeting.
It wasn't a social meeting.
So nobody, you know, they just said, okay, there's nobody around.
Go always sneak over there.
And nobody says it's a wrong time for a social meeting because it wasn't a social meeting.
No.
And when Loretta Lynch says, oh, I wouldn't have done that.
I won't do that again.
Or I wouldn't have done that.
She doesn't have to do it.
She already made the deal, whatever the deal was.
Yeah.
Now, I'm thinking there's all kinds of dimensions to this.
Besides your original thesis, which I like.
He offered her SCOTUS. Right, and she would not, and if she got that, she would not be approved by the Senate.
Nope.
Because they would point to this, and they could just not offer her SCOTUS. And what's she going to do?
Say, well, I had a meeting with Bill, and he promised me.
She's screwed no matter what happens.
I think she's dumb.
I came to that conclusion listening to her.
She's a dummy.
And she's gotten suckered into this.
She's the one who shouldn't have had the meaning if she had any gumption and any backbone.
But no, she went along with this.
Clinton himself may have been doing this to screw up Hillary's campaign.
So she won't kill him.
Right.
So she won't kill him.
He's going to stay away from her, that's for sure.
He's going to stay on the jet.
He's sleeping on the jet now.
So there's a lot of possibilities here that are not being explored by anybody.
And the mainstream media with this bullcrap, although they talked about their kids, I think Trump is right.
I don't know anybody that talks about their kids more than a minute.
And then two days later, Hillary Clinton is brought in and interviewed by FBI. And just hearing Trump, because we know Trump is on the FBI side, we know he and Comey are buddies, because Trump gave Comey a total pass on Orlando by saying, eh, they had a bad day.
They just had a bad day.
The FBI had a bad day.
But the general consensus is, oh, no indictment.
It'll never happen.
It's not going to occur.
They're very sure of it.
Just like Brexit, really.
Well, there's that one.
In fact, there's a big scandal going on.
I've noticed it.
I retweeted it, I believe, about CNN, the Clinton News Network.
They seem to have the inside track on this, and nobody can figure out why or how.
What do you mean by inside track?
They've already announced that they're going to drop the charges against Clinton.
Today's and this morning.
Somebody came out and said, they're not going to do this, they're not going to do this, they're not going to do that, and it's over.
And people are like, what?
Huh?
Where did this come from?
Nobody said anything.
Why is CNN all over it like that?
In fact, here's Lynch from the Aspen Festival.
I think the issue is, again, what is my role in how that matter is going to be resolved?
And so let me be clear on how that is going to be resolved.
I've gotten that question a lot also over time, and we usually don't go into those deliberations, but I do think it's important that people see what that process is like.
As I've always indicated, the matter is being handled by career agents and investigators with the Department of Justice.
They've had it since the beginning.
They are independent.
Which predates your tenure as Attorney General.
It predates my tenure as Attorney General.
It is the same team.
And they are acting independently.
They follow the law.
They follow the facts.
That team will make findings.
That is to say, they will come up with a chronology of what happened, the factual scenario.
They will make recommendations as to how to resolve what those facts lead to.
The recommendations will be reviewed by career supervisors in the Department of Justice and in the FBI. What is the point of her repeating career, career, career agents, career this?
That's interesting.
Maybe she's saying you may not have a career if you mess it up.
Is that the messaging here?
She keeps saying career, career, career.
Ah.
...student in the FBI and by the FBI director.
And then, as is the common process, they present it to me, and I fully expect to accept their recommendations.
Now, what's interesting here is...
I fully expect...
Yeah, expect...
Talk about a weasel word.
I fully expect.
Now, what's interesting here is you say you fully expect to accept the recommendations.
One thing people were saying this morning when the news broke was that you were, quote, recusing yourself from having any kind of role in the final determination.
Is that the case?
Is that what you're saying?
Well, a recusal would mean that I wouldn't even be briefed on what the findings were or what the actions going forward would be.
And while I don't have a role in those findings, in coming up with those findings, or making those recommendations as to how to go forward, I'll be briefed on it, and I will be accepting their recommendations.
Oh, okay.
She said, I will be accepting their recommendations.
Doesn't mean I'm going to act on them, but she'll accept them.
What do you think?
I think douchebag is what I think.
Well, there's that.
Douchebag!
But do you think that she'll get off?
Do you think there will be no indictment?
It'll just pass on by?
Well...
I think there should be some kind of reprimand.
There'll be something.
But no criminal indictment or anything of the sort.
I think.
I'd be with you on this.
Yeah.
Kind of.
Sad.
Well...
Poor Bill.
It's a little, yeah.
Otherwise, I think it might look unfair.
Trying to rig the election the way the NBA rigged the finals of the NBA's finals.
They take the one guy out they need.
And there was this news story going around about a possible Hillary vice presidential contender.
What's this guy's name?
Kine Kane something or other?
We need to talk about this.
I got the report.
Let's see if it helps our conversation.
The presidential veep stakes are gearing up, and today two prospective running mates are making some news.
Not all of it good.
On the Democratic side, Politico reported today that Virginia Senator Tim Kaine, a leading contender to become Hillary Clinton's running mate, quote, reported more than $160,000 in gifts from 2001 to 2009, mostly for travel to and from political events and conferences, according to disclosures compiled by the Virginia Public Access mostly for travel to and from political events and conferences, according Anyway, the givers included political supporters, a drug company that soon after bought a facility in Virginia, and Dominion, the state's largest provider of electricity.
Well, according to this report...
Senator Cain also received an $18,000 Caribbean vacation, $5,500 in clothes, and a trip to watch George Mason University play in the NCAA basketball Final Four.
All the gifts were legal under Virginia laws, and unlike his successor, former Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell, all gifts to Cain were properly disclosed publicly on paper.
Oh, man.
He's out.
I'm going to get to the point where...
That, by the way, that is how the Clintons vet people.
They find something out about you, throw it out there.
Oh, he didn't survive.
Oh, well, sorry.
I don't know who she's going to pick.
I think I'm kind of leaning toward Joni Ernst for Trump.
Joni Ernst?
Yeah, Joni Ernst is the superstar of the future.
Oh, let me take a look.
Have we talked about her before?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mentioned her once.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yes, she's okay.
And I'll tell you why I think this.
Now, they're talking about all kinds of other people that are going to maybe be the guy.
It's like Mike Pence from Indiana, who is just a douchebag.
He reeks of it.
Joni Ernst, I was thinking about who would Trump pick that would work?
Joni Ernst is a woman.
She's a veteran.
She's a tough chick.
Knows how to shoot guns.
She was a veteran.
Hillary never was a veteran.
Joni Ernst, I've heard her speak, which is the mistake I made.
It's the mistake McCain made with the screecher.
Yeah.
You know, who's not a bad person.
It's just that she's so annoying.
You know, what's her name from Alaska?
Do we have any audio of Joni Ernst?
I don't.
I'll dig some up.
Good name.
It's a good name.
It's a good name.
I like the name, Ernst.
Joni.
Trump, Ernst would be kind of a nice little bumper sticker.
Now, here's what my thinking is.
It could be Don John.
Don John?
Donald and Joni.
Don John.
Oh, you mean as one of those little Hollywood...
Yeah, just trying.
Da Joanie.
Da Joanie.
Okay.
Here's what my thinking is.
Trump likes to...
If you look at Trump when he does his real thing, he surrounds himself with his...
He's got his one beautiful, gorgeous daughter on the one side.
It's a beautiful people thing.
Joanie fits right into that image.
Not for any other reason.
I mean, she may be great in all kinds of different ways, but the image...
Is way up there.
Especially if you can compare it to the two old grandmas.
Clinton and Pocahontas.
You put those two up there.
They're just like two old biddies up there.
I think, first of all, your pick is great.
I don't know if she'll be the pick, but she is all-American.
Yeah.
Let me see.
What's her family status?
Let's see.
I think she's married.
Yeah, she's got to have kids.
Let me see.
Where's your personal, personal, personal...
Wow.
She's got a long list of stuff here.
Personal life.
Listen, Iowa with her husband...
A retired command sergeant major and their daughter Libby.
And she has two...
No, Gail.
Her husband's name is Gail, just to make it crazier.
That's not a great name for a guy, you know?
No.
Gail.
Gail, he has two daughters from a previous marriage.
I don't know if they live with them or not.
Okay, so she's accepting of that sort of thing.
Yes.
That's perfect.
Yeah.
And it's a modern family.
And she's got everything going on and she's got that Trump...
Entourage look.
I agree.
That's a good one.
Now, is this being rumored anywhere?
Are people talking about this?
She's on the list, but nobody's talking about it from this perspective.
I don't know what these analysts are thinking, but they just don't think in these terms.
And you have to remember, of all the things I'm good at on this show, this is one of the things I'm really good at.
I picked McCain when he was way down.
Yeah.
I picked McCain when he was way down.
I wasn't going to win.
I definitely called...
Well, we're still hopeful for Elizabeth Warren.
I mean, this has been your two-year strategy, so we're still thinking it could happen.
I'm not abandoning her because she's a screecher.
I mean, she's horrible, but she's very appealing to the Democrats, and she's very appealing.
My wife...
She's never heard her.
She just likes the look, huh?
No, she likes her policy.
She has these policies.
She's a big talker.
She's the one who says, you know, Rachel calls, you know, on the machine, on the robocalls, we're going to put a stop to it.
It was like years ago.
She hasn't done anything.
I still get calls from Rachel.
And what does it take to stop these calls?
Can't the FBI track down the boiler room where they're making these calls or where the robots are?
No, there's no one manning the ship.
There's no one.
No one cares.
These days they just call.
This is a call for Adam Curry.
If you want to be on the do not call list, press 1.
Yeah, now you're on the call list for sure.
Yeah, but I'm already on the do not call list.
Hey, the guy does exist.
I got another robocall from the interactive robot.
I don't know if I talked about the male version of this thing.
No, I don't believe so.
It was pretty good, but I've been getting more calls.
Now I'm getting these Rachel calls, the old-fashioned calls.
I bought my credit card, and I only got a few seconds left to fix it.
And now when I push one, because I always push one, then I harass the guy.
I say, your caller number 11.
And they actually, your caller number 10.
Your caller number 9.
Oh, man.
And it's like 10 minutes of waiting.
But that's very smart.
That way they know you're invested and they know to route you through to someone who can close the deal.
I don't know what the point of that trick is, but whatever it is, I always want to go all the way so I can say something stupid to the guy.
But when it gets to four or five, I just can't take it anymore and I hang up.
So I don't know.
Anyway, that's Elizabeth Warren.
She's a big talker.
She's a big consumer, this consumer, that, and she does nothing.
She's a do-nothing.
She has Tourette's.
This is odd.
There are two things.
I wrote this down.
I wanted to discuss this.
Of course, there's a couple things that happened.
One, the Hillary campaign emails.
Whoever subscribed me as Mimi has now changed me to Bill.
I don't know why, but now I'm getting, hey, Bill.
I know.
And there was apparently...
Did you unsubscribe from Mimi or is it the same mailing?
No, it's the same mailing.
I'm just getting it to Bob instead of Mimi.
Bill.
You're getting two of them of the same exact mailing.
You know, she sends way too many out.
I'm not getting two of them.
Mimi is gone.
It's only Bill.
What happened to Mimi?
Good question!
Huh.
But, here's something we discussed after the show, and I wrote it down.
So I get the emails from Hillary, of course, the emails from Trump.
And Trump, notice this, I notice this, because it's something I really despise about the Clinton emails, is now using the same language by saying, Hey, Adam, my name is Adam there, won't you chip in?
To help chip in.
You already explained about this.
No.
We talked about it after the show.
That's why I'm bringing it up.
I wrote it down on my pad to talk about it.
We said we were going to talk about it.
This is the problem.
I want to mention this to the audience.
This is the reason free interviews and rehearsals and all these things don't work.
As I listen to Adam, I'm thinking, you already talked about this.
I'm glad you wrote it down.
Go on.
I definitely have mentioned previously that the Clinton emails with this chip-in bit, it's like saying, don't support the podcast, just tip us.
You know, it's chip-in, it cheapens everything.
Yeah, I looked at the advertising copy, which is what that sales letter is.
It's very, it's not completely amateurish, but it's close to it.
Both the Clinton, they're all with these, and as we talked about it after the show, It's obvious that the company that holds these mailing lists is one company.
It's a single entity.
Because they were doing Bernie's, the same thing.
Also, chip in?
Chip in?
Chip in?
I don't remember the chip in.
That was your pet peeve.
But I do remember the layouts, that stupid red box that says, you know, click here.
Chip in.
Chip in.
It's one company.
I don't know which company it is.
I think I can figure it out.
They've got all these mailing lists, or maybe they're just part of the marketing department.
They don't own the mailing lists.
But it's the same group doing the letters for all of these guys.
And I'm reading these letters.
Can't Trump find a direct marketing operation that can actually write a good letter?
These letters are mediocre.
I agree.
And now they're just offensive.
Chip in.
Oh, and the worst part is that Jay mentioned this to me.
She's on these mailing lists, and she says, I can't take it anymore.
There's too many.
Hillary's sending me four emails a day.
And then we had the Visit Hamilton, the musical with Hillary, and that particular entry form was boughtable.
And thank you, whoever entered me 300 times.
Thank you.
Very funny.
I just kept getting emails.
Bill, you're registered.
Bill, you're registered.
Well, you have a better shot at it then.
Go see Hamilton with Hillary.
Yeah, sure.
And then I just wanted to throw this out because it's a fun little fact.
As we look at today's media, and I would say that in this race, Politico, The Atlantic, TheHill.com, these are all...
The Economist, I'll put them in there.
These are all publications that have, I'll say, some form of standing.
People read them and they're quoted.
It's now a part of mainstream media.
Would you agree with that?
Absolutely.
I would actually put BuzzFeed in there too, even though half the stuff in there is in native ads.
Well, I do not have any information on BuzzFeed, but...
Atlantic, Politico, The Hill, and The Economist all are offering special packages to both the Democratic National Convention and the Republican National Convention.
The Hill, in fact, is offering the companies or groups or think tanks or sponsors, quote, And the luncheon sponsor, who also gets to curate a list of participants from politics, government, media, and industry.
And they'll even make a video for you, which you can use, and they'll put the video on all of their pages.
And this will cost you $200,000.
That is paid coverage of your think tank.
And The Economist doing the exact same thing.
Sponsors can share lunches or dinners with top policy experts.
From The Economist that are live-streamed so your reach extends beyond the room.
Sponsoring a meal is also good for getting your CEO publicity.
We'll film an interview segment after the event concludes.
So these a-holes...
Pandering.
Pandering.
This is pathetic.
This is the reason that we can do the analysis we do and they can't.
If The Economist...
The Economist...
We know it's been ruined.
We know.
Certainly by the new editor, but for the economist to cross that line and say, well, listen, neocon think tank, for $200,000, we'll make this video, it'll be great.
How can they then, in the meantime, before that deal is done, paid for, and of course it's over at the convention, how can they report, honestly, without problems, about the Kagans, for instance?
They can't.
It's completely compromised.
That was mind-boggling to me.
Is this normal practice?
Has this been going on for years?
Not that I know of.
Ever since the native ad thing came into being, which was a few years ago, all these changes have been going on, and nobody seems to call it the ethics of it.
They don't say, hey, I think we've overstepped the lines here.
We've gone beyond what we're supposed to do.
No.
I don't know why, by the way, I don't know why that never happened.
I mean, the New York Times runs native ads.
Yeah.
I have no idea why everyone's so accepting of this.
So here's Politico.
Politico, I would say, is left-leaning.
Would that be fair?
Yeah.
Politico plans to hold a caucus energy conversation sponsored by VoteForEnergy.org, which of course is run by the American Petroleum Institute, the lobbying arm for Chevron, ExxonMobil, and other major oil and gas companies.
I don't know.
I think the ethics of this are very fucked up.
This is not okay.
No.
No, not in the least.
And that's what everyone's doing.
Because the reason is obvious to me.
Well, they need money.
That's obvious.
They can't make money.
Yeah, they can't make money with that.
They can't make money.
The old magazine model was so different than the online model that they've had to switch over to, even though they didn't have to completely.
I mean, Vogue magazine still does well, but these guys have made this decision, and the model doesn't work.
No.
No, the model is completely broken, and now they're doing this, which just compromises them.
Yeah, they decided to just sell out.
This makes you wonder what their mentality ever was.
If they so easily just sell themselves down the river, or the New York Times, in fact, is included in this.
I'll say it again.
They run native ads.
In fact, they're a part of that system, which we talked about, I think, over a year ago.
Which is an online system, and you can plug the native...
You sign up, and you're one of the advertisers, and you plug in your advertisement into this computer, and it places it into the newspaper without anybody saying anything.
Now, in 2009, the Washington Post planned to do something like this.
They were going to do what they called off-the-record salons.
I'm selling seats at the table for 25 grand a pop.
But then interestingly, it was Politico who broke the news about them doing that, and the Post canceled those sessions.
And as far as I know, they're not doing that anymore.
But it was Politico who broke the news about the horrible Washington Post with their ethics, and here's Politico doing the exact same thing.
Well, they got a competitor out of the way.
Yes.
Smart move.
I'm going to show my school by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
In the morning.
We do have a few people to thank for show 839.
839er, yep.
Bradley Carriers at the top of the list from Lexington, Michigan, $111.11.
And he wrote, and I think I'll read, I've got a success story about the power of no agenda karma preemptively helping me out.
I got laid off from my dude named Ben position a few months ago, and part of any good job hunting strategy, I decided to donate for some jobs karma.
After explaining how the karma works to my wife.
How did that go over?
Would she be okay with me donating?
She said no.
Since she didn't see the value of the karma, I didn't press the issue, but somehow the karma still came through for me.
I was contacted by a recruiter and got a new job a few days later.
I think the karma was just strong enough That even trying to get it, just trying to get it, brought on its effects.
It's possible.
Well, we've actually had other stories similar to this.
To make sure I play the karma forward, I'm doubling down what I originally planned to donate, which works out for us.
And I like the jobs karma for all those unemployed human resources out there.
Yeah, we'll do that.
$11.11.
I think we'll give them the karma for that.
Yeah, yeah, but...
Okay.
But I want to do a Jobs Karma at the end for everybody.
Okay.
It's up to you.
John Robinet in Parts Unknown, $100.
Rory Buska.
What do you think?
Buska.
Oh, this is the Beeb donation.
As in the BBC, the Beeb.
Oh, 8338.
Beeb, Haxor for the Beeb.
Nice.
Oh, okay.
Nice.
Madison, Tennessee.
William Smith in Sarasota, Florida, 7482.
Oh, he does have a specific request.
I can do that.
Can I hear the goose honk?
Small effort.
A lot of people like that goose honk thing.
And it's better than the swoosh.
Swoosh.
Can you imagine...
Yeah, instead of that...
Do the combination, I suppose.
There's a lot of fun you can have with that goose thing.
That's great.
William Smith, Sarasota, Florida.
Scott Spencer in Dawsonville, Georgia.
And here we have...
These are people that donated $74.16 for Independence Day.
For Independence Day.
Very nice.
And it goes on to Kirsten Gleb.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Scott Olson in San Diego, California is also in for 74-16.
Then Kirsten Gleb in Sultan, Washington, 74-16.
Yes.
Yeah, she's going to be a dame.
Yeah, she's going to be a dame today.
And she got a long note.
She realized she reached Damehood.
I don't see anything.
Adam, for the knighting ceremony, please add kilts and kilt lifters.
Kilt lifter ale.
Okay.
Kilts and kilt lifter ale.
Okay.
I'm adding it to the smorgasbord that is known as the round table gift bag.
Got it.
Kilts and kilt lifter ale.
Yep.
She says that she wouldn't know what life would be like without the show.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you, Kirsten.
Kevin McLaughlin in Locust, North Carolina, 7416.
Nick Ragucci in Hanover Park, Illinois.
Got a birthday, 7416.
These are all 7416s.
Kevin Brousseau in Milltown, New Jersey.
Roger Esty in Tampa, Florida.
Chad Watson in Uless, Uless, Texas.
Christopher Arneson in Hillsboro, Oregon.
That's 73-73.
That's all we got for the 74-16 donation?
Let's see.
There's a holiday.
Nobody cares.
That's pretty bad.
It's pretty bad.
Hey, Christopher, 73's.
Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie.
You know.
Jason Wall in Regina.
Regina.
I thought Regina was in Saskatchewan.
No, Saskatchewan.
I thought it was in Saskatoon.
No, Saskatoon is the city in Saskatchewan, which is the Paris of Canada.
Anyway, Sir Kevin Dill in Charlotte, California?
No.
That would be Charlotte, North Carolina, I think.
Yeah, I think that's what it is.
It came in as a check.
I think it got put in wrong.
Mangled.
6432.
Jason Aubrey in Foreman, Arkansas.
6251.
Douglas Chick in Gatineau, Quebec.
Double nickels on the dime.
Sir Don in Wyndham, North New Hampshire.
See if you can get Adam on the horn.
Then you can get his 2SO card or whatever you send him.
On the horn.
That's what we call it, John.
Hey!
Hey, I'm on the horn here!
Chris Schooler in Wellington, New Zealand.
5432.
Adam Loyal in Lantana, Florida.
53.
This is Adam Loyal in the thing.
I don't know why.
Barry Coggins in Parts Unknown, 5027.
Sir Jim Green in Sugar Hill, Georgia, 5005.
It says, deserved award go podcasting.
Richard Garriott in LaGrange, Kentucky, 50.
The rest of these are all $50 donors.
As we wrap this up, Shane Rozdilski in Saskatoon.
He's in the Paris of Canada.
Sean DeSantis in Fort Pierce, Florida.
Ross Turpin in Troy, Kansas.
Justin Barber in Los Angeles.
Sir Mark Tanner in Whittier.
Jared Seuss in Chicago, Illinois.
That's it.
That wraps it up.
That wraps it up.
That's our group of people that helped us on this show on the 4th of July weekend, where everybody is probably driving to some great lake with the boat in tow.
And we'd like to thank everyone who came in under $50.
That is usually for reasons of anonymity, but also for the people who are on the subscription.
You should pick up a subscription just to keep us going at some kind of base.
Yeah, go to Dvorak.org and pick that.
The $4 a week one is great.
75 cents an hour is not that much.
And we really appreciate it.
Thank you for keeping us rolling in our value-for-value model.
Dvorak.org slash N-A Jobs.
Jobs.
And jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
It's your birthday, birthday.
I'll know what you got.
Here we go.
Jack Genuso says happy birthday to his grandfather, Jack Dixon, who turns 100 years old tomorrow.
Russ Williamson turns 60 today.
We say happy birthday to him.
William Smith says happy birthday to his brother, Jeff Smith.
And Nick Ragucci says happy birthday and welcome to the universe.
And Gitmo Nation, new human resource, John Luca, who arrived at 7.30 a.m.
Central Standard Time this morning.
Welcome, human resource, and happy birthday from all your buds here at the best podcast in the universe.
Hell yeah.
Nice.
The new one, John.
We got a fresh one.
A new one.
It's about time.
Hey, only one nighting today.
Oops.
Oops.
That's my blade.
Do you have your blade?
Yeah, here.
Okay.
Good.
Now, this is nice.
We don't...
Get a lot of dames, really.
Or certainly it's less than it should be or could be, but today we had Kirsten Gleb come in to complete her knighthood, or damehood as we call it here for the ladies, with the amount of $1,000 or more contributed to the No Agenda Show podcast, the best podcast in the universe.
And therefore, come on up, Kirsten!
And we're very happy to pronounce the KB... Dame Kirsten Glenn!
Dame of the Wild Sky!
Yes!
For you, by special request, we have kilts and kilt lifter ale, meth sluts and moonshine, hookers and blow, red boys and chardonnay, geishas and sakes, sparkling cider and escorts, and of course, mutton and mead if you're still looking for it and can't get it at the medieval festival.
And thank you, Dane.
Head on over to noagendanation.com slash rings and let Eric the Shill know what size and where we can send everything to you.
Oh, since we do birthdays, might as well do one obituary, since we've talked about him several times on the show, and I was never a fan of the man.
The Holocaust survivor and former Nobel Peace Prize winner Elie Wiesel has died, aged 87.
Born in Romania, after his wartime experiences, he became a journalist and then an author, activist, and academic, writing extensively of his imprisonment in Nazi camps.
There you go.
The weasel has passed.
Well, I've got kind of an unusual clip.
I don't want to get out of the way.
I think you'll enjoy it.
I think everyone will.
Spatchcock.
Now we're going to spatchcock a chicken.
This funny word, spatchcocking, is believed to be an abbreviation of dispatch the cock, which was shorthand for prepare the chicken for roasting over a spit.
I just find it very amusing and everyone loves to think of what does spatchcocking mean and what does it do?
Well, I'm going to show you.
I have two ways to spatchcock when you keep the breast in the center by taking out the backbone.
Oh, shit!
Spatchcock.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I'll give you a borderline for that, but that's about all I can get.
Spatchcock.
Well, the funny thing is, is when I heard that and then I heard Loretta Lynch, I put a mash-up together.
It's kind of, it may be lewd, but I thought it was, at least, amused me.
Now we're going to spatchcock a chicken.
This funny word, spatchcocking, is believed to be an abbreviation of dispatch the cock.
It's something that I take seriously and deeply and painfully.
Not bad, John.
I'm putting that at the end of the show.
That was good.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Spatchcock.
Spatchcock.
Well, actually, what she showed was a methodology for smashing a chicken so it's flat and you can do chicken under a brick, a style of cooking, in a pan.
Oh.
And I kept that little...
And I don't know if I even called that.
Very nice.
Okay.
But I got a recipe out of it.
Okay, I have a little thing on...
Let me see.
Where's these...
I promised this.
So let me bring it out now.
May I have your attention, please?
Yeah.
Zika, zika, zika, zika, zika.
Yeah.
Where's the money?
$1.9 billion.
Zika, zika, zika, zika, zika.
Yeah.
Where's the money?
Small heads are coming.
You're going to do it.
You watch.
What's going to happen?
Ah, well, there was a lot going on with this Zika bill, which Democrats voted down.
And to me, when I read the Zika bill, it was very apparent.
And that is mainly because they specified very clearly that...
This money, which of course was coming from the Ebola Fund, $1.9 billion, which doesn't really exist since it's coming from other countries and it's to be distributed in multiple ways, with about $800 million going to National Institutes of Health and all kinds of funds that could funnel money to, well, do you have an idea?
NGOs.
Planned Parenthood.
Oh!
Planned Parenthood, yes.
That's good.
That's pretty cool.
Nice and sly.
Sly.
Well, here's what's interesting about it.
Planned Parenthood, well, here is Executive Vice President Don Lagoons.
Often we are the only provider that someone will see all year.
And we are the front line of defense when it comes to battling Zika.
On Monday, many of you were probably there.
We were there celebrating when the Supreme Court said women's health and well-being must be the test for laws and policies, that science, not ideology, must guide policies, and America cheered that common sense direction.
This is very interesting.
You mean, I'm just saying, the front line for fighting Zika is Planned Parenthood?
Yes, and I have a couple of clips where she justifies that, but I want to go back to last week when the deputy director of the CDC was asked specifically...
Is abortion, is abortion, you know, is this a solution to this Zika virus, which although all the science that I have seen shows there is no hard evidence of a real correlation between microcephaly and the Zika virus, specifically because we haven't had the influx of microcephaly even though there are people with Zika in the United States.
And here's the CDC Deputy Director's answer.
We're really at the beginning of understanding Zika in pregnancy, and there's probably a lot to say here.
We don't know if a woman has laboratory-confirmed Zika in pregnancy exactly what that means for her and her baby.
You know, with something like a Down syndrome test or some of the genetic testing that's done, there's a lot of science behind the counseling that goes on with the family about what that means for the pregnancy.
But with Zika, we really don't know.
There are also, you know...
We don't know that a child is going to be born with the microcephaly until the child is born?
The clinicians will do serial ultrasounds to see whether it looks like the brain is developing okay or whether there are calcifications or some other warning signs.
And we don't have a big enough experience to know how predictive the findings are.
So we've had examples where the ultrasounds were looking okay, but the baby wasn't okay, and others where there seemed to be problems and then the baby turned out to be okay.
I think it's too soon for us to have a very confident set of information to counsel women with about just what to expect and how to plan.
Well, it doesn't seem too early for Planned Parenthood.
They are on the front line of aborting babies with tiny heads, I guess.
Let's talk a little bit about what this bill does not do.
This, again, is the Executive Vice President, Don Lue Lagoons, of Planned Parenthood.
It does not provide necessary planning for family planning resources in line with CDC recommendations.
And they just said, we're not really sure that this is what we can do.
We don't think aborting the fetuses is really the way to go.
We should do some testing.
But okay, you say what you want, Planned Parenthood.
It does not give money to the providers best suited to help fight the Zika virus.
It does not expand the base of providers willing to help like a previous bipartisan compromise did.
And it does not put the health of women and children first by making family planning and condoms as widely available as possible to prevent what is now also a sexually transmitted disease.
Okay.
Okay, so we're going to throw it on to the condoms, but of course we need hundreds of millions of dollars for Planned Parenthood to get these condoms into the hands of women who might have a baby with small head because they got pregnant.
But still, when they talk about family planning, we know exactly what it means.
Her final piece of the statement.
This bill also slashes money from the ACA and the Ebola crisis, stealing money from one public health crisis to pay for another.
Right.
Wow.
This was what your president requested.
Take it from Ebola because, I don't know, Ebola's gone.
There's no problem.
Ebola's over.
There's no disease anymore.
And now you have a problem with it?
It really boggles the mind.
And I know why.
Because they were on deck to get some of the Ebola money.
That's why.
To hear that any qualified family planning provider could be excluded by the Republican leadership at this time of great, great need.
I find this abhorrent.
There is no, not even consensus science on Zika being directly responsible for microcephaly.
Well, the evidence is actually going in the other direction.
CBS, though, did finally figure it out, and they reported this briefly.
Tampa Bay Times reports on Florida's first birth defect linked to Zika.
The baby has microcephaly, which can cause an abnormally small head.
The mother got the virus in her native Haiti.
This infant could potentially be the nation's fifth with a Zika birth defect.
All the cases are travel-related.
A funding bill to fight Zika failed yesterday.
Senate Democrats opposed the measure because it did not provide enough spending and included politically motivated language.
Yeah.
In other words, not enough for Planned Parenthood.
Wow.
You know, that's brazen to me.
Really brazen.
Hey, your kid may be dumb.
No, let's abort it.
Your kid may be, you know, small.
Oh, let's abort it.
Yeah.
Now, I wanted to say something.
We had a very important state law was struck down by the Supreme Court.
A proposed state law was struck down by the Supreme Court in Texas.
And I'm very invested and very interested in these types of issues.
And it came down to two things that we have discussed on the program before.
One is that in Texas...
The legislature wanted to ensure...
This is how they said it, okay?
Obviously, it's taken the other way.
It's taken as old a-hole white men who want to be in women's wombs.
Got it.
They said, if you're going to have an abortion, then the clinic should be up to standards of a hospital.
Moreover, any doctor performing this type of procedure in that facility must have rights at a local hospital to Within 20 minutes.
And this would have effectively made a lot of these clinics...
They would not qualify.
So they would have to be upgraded.
Which I think is a good idea.
And to have...
Something goes horribly wrong within 20 minutes from a major hospital.
So...
I do not understand why this is celebrated in the way it was.
Women should have a very good facility if this is going to take place.
And now having both of those struck down, I think, is worse for women because the real problem is the hospitals who will not allow doctors to come in and fix abortions if something's screwed up.
They should be forced to allow these doctors in.
But no, that's not the conversation.
I think Planned Parenthood really put their foot in it this time.
I think it's really, really, really bad what they did.
Whereas it's obvious that it's the frickin' hospitals who should allow emergency cases to come in.
Well, they could be legislated to do that, but they won't do that in Texas.
They don't want abortions in Texas.
But I don't understand the celebration.
Of, oh, we got old white men out of our wombs.
Okay, but did you really get improvement?
The fight should not be over, but it seems it is.
You're like, oh, it's great.
Nah, it's just symbolic.
Well, I take offense to that.
You should take offense.
You're in Texas and you're an old white man.
You have both things going against you.
Yeah, I'm screwed.
You're right.
Hey, did you see...
The brand new NATO headquarters?
Oh, God.
Please, please.
I'll bet they're beautiful.
Now, I'm not going to say anything.
I want you to go search right now.
Just search for new NATO headquarters.
And this thing is located...
Where is this thing located?
I'm not sure where it's located.
Do you have a picture yet?
No, it is.
What?
What?
I'm waiting for you to look at the picture of the new NATO headquarters.
I'm looking at it now.
Okay, what does it look like to you?
There's a couple different ones.
Let me see what we got.
Talking to the mic.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Talking to the mic.
Okay, I'm looking at...
A bunch of different pictures, including this monstrous facility that looks like something from outer space.
Ah, no, no, no.
Look at it.
Imagine this on a collar of a uniform.
On a collar of a uniform?
Well, the thing's too big to put on a collar of a uniform, unless you're talking about the four things.
Yeah.
Like everyone's a general or everyone's an admiral.
Okay.
This is identical to the SS logo that the Nazis had on their collars if they were a member of the SS. Do you see it?
You know, the SS was little lightning bolts.
Yeah, this looks exactly like the lightning bolts.
Put them side by side.
I guess you might be right.
Might be.
It's astounding.
They have the four things, they're actually like double lightning bolts.
Double lightning bolts, which the SS, just look at a picture next to it.
I'm not going to do that.
I'm just trying to see.
Okay, yeah.
It's kind of similar.
Kind of?
Hmm.
Looks exactly the same to me.
Hmm.
Interesting.
Stuff to be aware of.
Why does this thing need to be this size?
This thing looks like the Pentagon deconstructed.
It's that big.
It's huge.
This thing is great.
I love it.
I love it.
Jeez.
Terrible operation.
I got something that's kind of interesting.
Here's a news story that nobody...
I don't know why we didn't get this story, but nobody picked this story up.
Now, the way I have it set up here, this is the Hong Kong clip.
There's something...
Let's see.
Sina versus Hong Kong.
This is the end of one story and it goes to the second story because the end of the other story is the end of a report on the communist meeting in China where the leader there is going on and on about the main thing we got to do now is stop corruption.
Mm-hmm.
Thank you.
And then it kicks to this Hong Kong story which I've never heard before.
And I think it's fascinating.
I'm surprised the major media hasn't picked this up because it's really an interesting story.
We must have a staunch will and not let up on our zero-tolerance attitude.
We must investigate all cases and punish those who are corrupt to give corrupt elements no place to hide in the party.
Meanwhile, thousands turned out in Hong Kong on the 19th anniversary of that city's return to Chinese rule.
They denounced Beijing for kidnapping local booksellers who sold critical works about Chinese leaders.
Huh.
Yeah.
I hadn't heard about that.
They're kidnapping people.
I hadn't heard about that.
They're kidnapping people.
That's crazy.
Huh.
I just thought that was the strangest story, that it got very little play except on the PBS NewsHour, and even Democracy Now!
didn't play it, that I know of.
I thought that was pretty bad.
Yeah, who knows?
You know, Putin had a meeting with Japan, a strategic weapons meeting.
He's all over the place.
Yeah, he's traveling a lot.
Of course, my favorite article, this is kind of tech news, but we don't have to play the jingle.
Footage shot a couple of months ago by a former Navy SEAL demonstrating the autopilot features of his Tesla.
At this point, narrowly avoiding collision with another vehicle.
On May 7th, Joshua Brown was killed when the 40-year-old's Tesla Model S drove under the trailer of an 18-wheel truck on a highway in Williston, Florida.
U.S. auto safety regulators are now investigating details into Brown's death.
It's believed to be the first fatal crash involving a Tesla electric car and is likely to ramp up scrutiny of a technology that's been evolving with little oversight.
The driver of the truck Brown went under, Frank Barassi, said in an interview that the Tesla was moving at high speed and didn't hit the brakes.
He said he believes Brown was watching a movie at the time of the crash.
Tesla said that due to certain conditions, including the height of the tractor trailer and its position on the road, the Model S didn't automatically brake.
Regulators are expected to release driverless car guidelines later this summer.
They'll attempt to balance concerns over the technology's readiness versus the promise of safety benefits.
Tesla's stock price has surged more than 500% since 2013, giving it a value of more than $30 billion.
But the company doesn't expect to be profitable until 2020 at the earliest.
Play my clip as a backup for that.
Okay.
Got it.
When neither Brown nor his Tesla Model S with sensors applied the brake as a truck made a left turn in front of the car.
Tesla says the car's system could not differentiate between the truck's white side and a bright Florida sky.
Tesla's CEO... So the problem with this, besides that someone died, and I don't know, so the truck driver said the guy was watching a movie and that turned into he was watching Harry Potter.
I don't know where that came from, but I think it's humorous.
Yeah.
But this guy, I mean, he was decapitated.
I mean, it's just because the car kept going.
It went underneath, hit the windscreen, chopped the whole top of the car off, including the guy.
Yeah.
Then he just kept on going.
Well, here's the problem I have with the whole thing.
Besides the fact that this guy was a parent, a whole like to drive really fast and let the car do the driving.
Yeah.
He was also a shill for the company.
He was all kinds of YouTube videos.
Now, the thing is the excuse.
Well, you know, we couldn't see the truck because the sky was the same color, which is what Tesla and a bunch of these people say.
But I'm thinking when I hear this, are they doing all the navigation from video feeds?
And her head is gone.
I don't know.
Because I thought it was radar.
Because the radar thing makes more sense, but it also introduces a new element of horror.
The radar, I thought there's LIDAR, radar, some radar-like thing that kept these cars on track.
Yeah.
No, I think it recognizes the stripes on the road, the lines.
I think that's part of what it does.
Yeah.
They could have, yeah, that would be an element I could see, but I don't see it being used, just visual stuff being used as the main element for navigation.
I could see where, I mean, a lot of cars have those little cameras that let's just...
In fact, the little Fords have a camera that tells you the speed limit thing and all the rest of it.
Yeah, it looks at the signs and gives you the speed limit.
It looks at the signs and does all those things.
The problem is...
Let me finish, because what I'm thinking is that they did have radar on this thing, LIDAR or something, and if you looked at that truck, that truck was way up.
The car could have damn near gone under the truck.
And I think the radar just was shooting straight out and it didn't see the truck over the top.
It was like, you know, overpass or something.
Whatever the technical explanation, the first thing we need to understand is that people are a-holes.
Even though it's very clear that this is an assist, you shouldn't use it just for autopilot, don't go to sleep, people just do it.
And they're endangering lots of other people while this is taking place.
But more importantly, they didn't report this until almost 60 days after it happened, which conveniently bridged over their huge money raise.
Yes, I know.
I think they can be sued for that.
And they will be sued.
If the stock goes down...
The shareholders will sue.
We'll go after them because that's what they do, which is what the shareholders do, especially the ones that put a lot of money in.
So they're going to go after them and the next thing you know, they're going to be, Musk is going to be in court all the time.
I was told by a very successful investor and director of a company.
Years ago, he says, and he had a lot of money.
He says, you can have all the money in the world.
There is nothing more miserable that you can ever experience than a shareholder's lawsuit.
Oh my goodness, yes.
You have to be in court all the time.
It's slow moving.
It's a slow moving process.
It's horrible.
It's the worst thing you can imagine and it makes you miserable.
And the great thing about it is it always settles for exactly the amount of money that the directors and officers of insurance is limited at.
Yeah, pretty much.
It always does that.
Tesla PR did put out a video which was step-by-step of exactly what happened.
Did you see this video?
Step-by-step of what happened?
No, it's pretty good.
You're driving 55 miles an hour, and you have a head on.
This is what happens.
In the first tenth of that fatal second, the front bumper and grille collapses.
During the second tenth, your hood rises and strikes the windshield.
Fenders begin wrapping themselves around the object of collision.
You slam on your brakes, but your body is still moving at 55 miles an hour.
You stiffen your legs for the jolt, but they both snap the knee joint.
During the third tenth of a second, your body catapults from the seat.
Broken knees ram into the dashboard.
The steering wheel begins to collapse.
The steering column drives towards your chest.
In the fourth tenth, two feet of the car's front end are totally demolished, but the rear end is still traveling at 35 miles an hour.
Your body is moving forward at 55.
In the fifth tenth, your body is impaled on the steering column.
Blood rushes into your lungs.
During the 6th 10th, the force of impact is built up so that your feet are ripped out of their shoes.
The brake pedal shears off.
The car frame buckles in the middle.
Your head slams into the windshield.
In the 7th 10th of the second, the entire car body is distorted.
Hinges rip off.
Doors bring open.
The seat flails, striking it from behind.
But it really doesn't matter.
You're dead.
You aren't around to experience the final 3 tenths of this one second.
Neither are your passengers.
It doesn't take long to die.
Jack Webb.
Could not resist.
Yeah.
They don't have those graphic descriptions anymore, do they?
No, they don't want to scare the public except that terrorism.
Good times.
Those days are over.
Alright, let's see.
I've got one more here that would be good.
Oh yeah, here's one.
This is an irksome clip.
This is the mileage tax in California that they're thinking about doing.
And before we play this, I want to remind people that the dummies, I guess in most states, but in California in particular, They sell everybody on getting a Prius or electric car.
Good for the climate.
Do all the stuff.
It creates a shortfall because most of the Roads and roadways and throughways and freeways are all paid for by the gasoline tax.
Well, nobody's buying gasoline for an electric car.
So what should we do?
How do we get our door, John C. de Vrec?
Well, they explain it in here, but it's not going to work.
America's interstate highway system is 60 years old and not aging gracefully.
But how to pay for much-needed repairs.
Carter Evans says some states are now kicking the tires on a mileage tax.
The freedom of the open road may soon cost you and it's why Andrew Zingale is using a special app.
It's called the driveway app.
To send photos of his odometer to the state of California.
You take a picture and then that's the reading.
He's one of 5,000 Californians participating in a nine-month experiment to see if taxing drivers by the mile can replace the state's gasoline tax.
So this is getting data from your car's computer.
That's right.
Brian Kelly is installing an experimental GPS mileage tracker.
When you plug it in, it lights up.
Kelly is also California's Secretary of Transportation.
The projections on what we'll get out of the gas tax are down going forward, so we have to find new ways to fund transportation.
California needs $8 billion a year to maintain its transportation infrastructure, but it only raises $2.3 billion from its 27.8 cent a gallon gas excise tax.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the gas tax except for one thing, and that is that our legislatures have chosen not to raise the rates.
Asha Agrawal, director of the Mineta Institute's Transportation Finance Center, polled drivers on what they preferred.
You asked people if they would be willing to pay a penny per mile driven instead of a gas tax.
Yes, we did.
What did they say?
They said not interested.
Only 23% said they would support a mileage tax.
Part of the opposition, the study found, is privacy concerns.
People get concerned when they hear about a device that tracks your location.
That fear is understood.
However, this program is really about just knowing how far you're traveling.
Last year, Oregon launched a similar pilot.
And last month, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Connecticut, and Delaware requested federal funding to test it.
Secretary Kelly also hopes to figure out another potential issue, how to collect the money on a mileage tax.
There are questions, and the way you answer these questions is you test it.
Californians drive about 190 billion miles every year.
Now, even if they were taxed at just under two cents a mile, which is what this study is looking at, Josh, there'd still be a transportation budget shortfall of about four and a half billion dollars.
Carter Evans in Los Angeles, thank you for that.
Yep.
Well, this is in the Red Book.
This is in the Red Book.
Yes.
A couple of things.
First of all, I want to play another clip because of this guy bitching about, oh, I hate to be tracked like a dog.
But play this New York, this is the New York Terror Department.
They got this agency within the police department now with hundreds of special guys who are all specialists in terrorism.
But they had this little snippet that I got a kick out of.
It's been referred to as a ring of steel.
It's our coordination center.
It's our way of protecting New Yorker.
Plus three million vehicle license plates read every day, stored for five years.
You're essentially prepared to go to war with terrorists.
Yes.
It's inevitable that there'll be an attack or another attack, you know, in this country.
That can't kill him.
They don't need him.
Okay.
It's the license plate readers.
California is...
Yes.
Three million a day?
Yes.
In New York City.
Yeah, perfect.
Beautiful.
We have more than that.
And California's got license plate readers everywhere.
And you can look it up.
They know exactly where you're driving all the time.
So that's kind of bullshit.
But what seemed more pertinent to me was the number that costs like eight billion a year to keep the highways the way they are.
Pothole free.
Pothole.
Well, that hasn't happened.
That would, with the amount of money wasted in the Iraqi war, that would mean we'd have that money, if it went to the California highways or we could spread it around, would last over a hundred years of this, you know, sort of expense.
But nobody ever brings anything like that up.
It's always baffled me.
They have better roads in Afghanistan than we have across here with the pothole-filled Highway 80.
Yeah.
I'm going to make a video one of these days, driving on Highway 80 with the potholes and show people how miserable it is.
This will be implemented through your insurance company, of course.
It will be mandatory to have this if you want any kind of decent rate.
You're screwed.
California, it's all over.
Moreover, I have a little overview.
I had a back and forth with Sir Chris, you know, of the armory.
And so have you been following these gun bills?
That have now all been passed and sent to the governor for approval.
I don't know.
Maybe he's already approved some of them.
I don't know.
But I have a little overview of what they want to change regarding weapons in California.
Oh, yeah.
Are you ready?
Yeah.
Number one, ammunition sales will require an ID and background check to purchase ammunition and will create a new state database of ammunition owners.
Right.
Every bullet!
Every bullet!
You have a bullet!
Yep.
Yep.
Now, it says here large ammunition clips, but of course they mean magazines.
This bans possession of ammunition magazines that hold more than ten bullets.
Then bullet buttons, which is not how I would describe it, but two separate proposals would strengthen California's assault weapon law.
By outlawing a small buttonhole used for quickly swapping out ammunition magazines.
It's a clip release.
A magazine release.
What are you supposed to do?
Get a key?
A Phillips head screwdriver.
Hold on!
Ten bullet shot!
Hold on!
Let me just open that up.
Also...
A limitation on gun loans.
So you cannot loan out your gun to anybody.
What if you go to a shooting range and the guy's got a whole bunch of guns and you want to shoot one of them?
It's okay, but you have to have a background check.
Stolen gun reporting would have to be within five days.
Wait, wait.
I have to have a background.
I go to the shooting range with my friend.
Yeah.
And he's a gun collector, so he's going to let me shoot all these crazy guns, so I want to do that.
I'm in a range.
I'm shooting it at a target.
I hear you.
Well, the language is a little opaque.
A restriction on loaning guns without background checks.
I don't know if you borrow it or if you put it on loan.
Maybe both.
I don't know.
But yeah, there's going to be background checks for everything.
False gun reporting.
Ghost guns.
Here we go.
Homemade ghost guns would need to be registered.
Long gun limits.
Only one rifle or shotgun could be purchased per month.
And there will be money for lobbying to urge Congress to lift the prohibition against publicly funded scientific research on the causes of gun violence.
So they're going to try and pin that on video games, I'm sure.
And those are the highlights.
But I think the 10 magazine limit and the quick release is interesting.
Interesting changes.
And, of course, ammunition sales.
This has always been a big one, ammunition sales.
Yeah, they've been working on that.
I think you can't buy ammo in California.
So with that comes my final story about a guy who, and this is interesting, this shows you not just what happened, but also in the reporting with a little bit of a kicker at the end, just to show how ridiculous this is.
So a couple of, like three or four people, they had a couple drinks, they're walking home, they see some guy has Trump signs, and they kick him over.
It's what you do when you're drunk because you hate Trump.
You hate everybody who's a part of Trump.
So the guy comes out and, well, listen to what happened.
Listen to what they were planning to do.
And just listen to the report itself about, you know, instead of saying, hey, this guy was, you know, you destroyed his property on his property and came out and he pointed a gun at you.
Yeah, that's what can happen if you do shit like that in America.
But here's how it was reported.
And listen to the disdain.
Ashton Farron couldn't believe what she captured on video.
She, her husband, and two friends knocked over a Donald Trump sign in front of what she thought was an abandoned business.
They were on their way home after getting a couple of drinks in Bankers Hill last night.
That's when she says the guy came out with a rifle, started cursing at them, and said, quote, I have been waiting to use this.
They ran away, and both they and the gunman's girlfriend called police.
Yeah, dog.
Did he just pull out a gun on us?
Yeah, this guy just pulled out an automatic rifle on us in the middle of the f***ing street.
The gunman's address also shows to be a business called Love and Terror Tattoo.
The man running it, Taron Beecham, police let the man say goodbye to his child before they took him in for more questioning, but later released him.
It's ridiculous that somebody can just come out.
He wasn't even on his own property.
He was in the middle of the road.
And put myself and my friends and my husband, the people who live in his life, in danger.
With what seems to be no consequences.
And police say that one of the women was about to urinate on the sign, but Ferrand disputes that.
What kind of people are these?
Hey, let's piss on the Trump sign.
What is...
Where was this?
Hmm...
I'll have to look that one up.
Some low-rent place, I guess.
I don't know.
But the Disney...
I was like, oh, this guy pulled a gun and she wanted to urinate on the sign.
What is wrong with you people?
Yeah, I'd pull my rifle too.
Moron?
This is crazy.
Turned out to be, that was actually Elizabeth Warren.
Hey-o, everybody.
In the morning.
There we go.
We should end it on that high note.
Yes, fine.
All right, everybody.
Well, you never know what next week will bring.
There's always going to be something going on.
I would also say be on the lookout for Puerto Rico.
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff coming out of it.
You know, I think Puerto Rico, who are getting all angry about the free prom, which pretty much puts them on an austerity budget with Washington overseeing their protectorate financially with a special committee, I'm thinking maybe some terrorism might bring them in line.
Maybe.
I had a bad feeling about it.
Could be.
Things can happen.
Anything on TV? Today?
Not that I know of.
Nothing to watch.
I do have a TV tip for people.
I don't know if I talked about it on the show or ever.
Yeah?
But people who like the Kimmy Schmidt show that...
Yeah, the unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt.
Yeah, the first season was a dynamite.
People bitch about the second season, and I finally figured out what you need to do.
I think I did talk about this.
I'm going to talk about it again.
No, you told me privately.
I told you privately.
Start with episode...
Skip the whole season.
Start with episode 9, 9, 10, 11, 12.
You get to see five episodes.
Before episode 9, the show totally blows.
Just go to Nine and watch it out and you're done.
Or you could just read a good book.
You could read a good book or you could go, apparently now there's some studies that Netflix is trying to propagandize us and it's a brainwashing operation.
Turn off your television, people.
Turn off your television.
Now you're talking.
Just listen to podcasts.
We will be back on Thursday, and we appreciate your support.
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And from northern Silicon Valley, we're starting to fog up.
So the 4th of July fireworks will be ruined once again this year.
I'm John C. DeBorak.
We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
Adios, mofos!
We're contributing information on that.
So we're going to just contribute.
Yeah, I can't comment on that.
To the State Department.
Can't comment on that.
What U.S. statement is.
Yeah, I can't comment.
Questions to the State Department.
All U.S. agencies work.
Yeah, I can't comment.
Questions to the State.
These work.
All U.S. agencies work.
All U.S. statements.
I just don't have a comment.
We're all U.S. agencies.
No, no.
They referred the questions to the State Department and to the FBI. Now we're going to spatchcock a chicken.
This funny word, spatchcocking, is believed to be an abbreviation of dispatch the cock.
A song that I take seriously and deeply and painfully.
Into the back of this.
Crazy people.
Crazy.
Crazy people.
Crazy.
Crazy.
We were so smart, we outsmarted ourselves.
Right-wing, crazy, racist, xenophobic horror show.
Does any of this sound familiar?
Does this sound familiar?
Everywhere the smart people were eating their tofu.
The lunatics who were watching NPR making lunatic arguments.
You are so smart.
Trump is probably going to win.
Thank you.
Crazy people.
Thank you.
Crazy people.
Crazy people.
We'll be right back.
Adios, mofo.
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