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April 3, 2016 - No Agenda

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	Here's how I'd like to punish women.
	First, I'd like to punch them in the gut.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	And it's Sunday, April 3rd, 2016.
	Time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 813.
	This is No Agenda.
	Yes, and this time it really is Sunday.
	From the Violet Crown to the Big Apple, I'm broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in FEMA Region 6.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from the 18th floor of some godforsaken part of the west side of Manhattan, looking at what appears to be construction, I'm John C. DeBoer.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	All right, well, in the morning to you, John.
	That lag was me.
	Yeah, okay, it wasn't the Skype, it was all you?
	Yeah, I believe so.
	Luckily, I'm just trying to adjust your sound on the fly.
	So, John, you're in Manhattan today on your mobile rig.
	Yes, the mobile rig.
	Which is always challenging with hotel Wi-Fi.
	I believe that's what you're on right now.
	Yep.
	Well, pretty good.
	Seems to be working.
	Before we get underway, I just need to ask you a quick little question.
	I saw the spreadsheet today.
	Is this because you didn't get any checks in for the spreadsheet?
	No.
	Right.
	I can't get checks because I'm not...
	I wasn't...
	Oh, good.
	Because I look at the spreadsheet...
	I slept very little last night.
	We have an hour earlier today.
	I was volunteering at the bandana ball last night for Ronald McDonald House.
	And when I saw the spreadsheet, I was like, I almost...
	I was like, I'm going to go back to bed.
	And then I thought, no, wait a minute.
	This must be because there's no checks.
	There's no checks.
	Okay, good.
	No, good.
	Good.
	I feel much better now.
	So...
	How you doing in Manhattan?
	We got in on Friday and we went to a play.
	Now, we as the whole Dvorak family, right?
	Yeah.
	Well, no.
	Eric's still in...
	The shill is still in Washington State with his family.
	Oh, okay.
	But everybody else seems to be here.
	He was invited, though?
	Yeah, of course.
	Just checking.
	Okay.
	It would have been a huge hassle for him.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And besides that, we like to go to plays.
	Oh, okay.
	Eric's not a big play guy.
	Plays or musicals?
	Well, the American way, of course, is musicals.
	So we go to musicals.
	We do go to plays once in a while if there's something that's kind of interesting.
	But generally speaking, the musical.
	And I have to say, if you want to hear the experience so far.
	Yeah, of course.
	Now, we always go because of the prohibitive costs of going to musicals.
	We always get our tickets at Rush.
	What's Rush?
	Rush is what people should do.
	The morning of the 8 o'clock play, you find when the box office opens on that day of the play.
	And then you get in the line and you buy Rush tickets.
	And Rush tickets are just sold, maybe I would say at cost, to fill up the theater.
	Right.
	And typical play, a Broadway musical currently, is around $250 of seat.
	And that's just the regular ticket price on the ticket itself?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I gotcha.
	Rush tickets are like $30.
	Holy moly!
	Is that what the StubHub guys go pick up to sell online?
	Is that how that works?
	I don't know what they do, but here's the process.
	Mimi's actually researched this even more than I have.
	I always knew about their Stub and Student Rush.
	I mean, not Stub, but Rush and Student Rush.
	Uh-huh.
	So you want to get these tickets, and now there's certain shows you're just not going to get.
	They're just sold out, actually, at the full price.
	I would guess Hamilton is sold out.
	You have to pay $300 to go to Hamilton, at least.
	And you might have to blow somebody.
	You just wait.
	I was talking to somebody about this.
	I said, what's the rush to see any of these plays?
	If you know how the theater works, not one of these plays...
	It's like something so contemporary that you have to go see it today.
	It's been out in the public going from, as previews and tests, test markets around the country, usually for about two years.
	Generally speaking, a Broadway musical has been in the wild for a couple of years before it gets to Broadway.
	Right.
	Sometimes it'll even go off-Broadway, then Broadway.
	Hmm.
	And so it's not like this, you know, so for example, we haven't seen the Book of Mormon because we were here the last time when it was opening.
	It was like Hamilton.
	You couldn't get in.
	You'd have to pay $250.
	We're not doing that.
	There's too many good plays you can get into for $30, which is still high as far as I'm concerned.
	And so you just wait.
	So we'll go see Book of Mormon, probably be able to get Rush tickets for it by now, I'm hoping.
	And the difference is, well, you don't get to see the original actors.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, a couple things to think about.
	This is tips for you people that want to come to New York and do some Broadway scrounging.
	Okay, you can't see the original actors.
	First of all, let me ask you, Adam, who played the three starring roles in the Book of Mormon?
	I have no idea.
	Exactly.
	And I saw Book of Mormon.
	There you go.
	I have the playbill even somewhere, but I have no idea.
	No.
	The point is, is that the actors who come in to take over the roles, you're still looking at a Broadway musical.
	It's still on Broadway.
	And the actors who come in are never slouches.
	Right.
	Except for the Hamilton guy, he's a superstar in his own right.
	Right.
	You'll run into that once in a while.
	But you might find that the guy who replaces him, which will probably happen after, they usually only work it for six months, maybe, might be just as good or better.
	And a future star, you don't know.
	Sure, sure.
	So it's silly, these arguments, they're having to rush to see these overpriced plays.
	In fact, wasn't Barbra Streisand's big breakthrough as an understudy somewhere at one point?
	That would not surprise me in the list.
	Yeah, I think that's, maybe I'm wrong, but I think that was how she started.
	If you heard, it's probably true.
	Yeah.
	I think everybody was an understudy at one point.
	At one point, yeah.
	So that's what we do.
	So we get the cheap tickets.
	And the cheap tickets, 90% of the time, are always...
	They're damn good tickets.
	It's not like...
	Yeah, you're not front row center.
	And you're not sitting together, I presume.
	Yes.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Five in a row.
	Because I have some audio from the Dvorak family inside the theater, and it didn't sound like you were sitting together.
	We'll play that.
	No!
	It's off!
	Off!
	Turn them off!
	They're too bright!
	Turn them off!
	Turn off the lights!
	Turn off the lights!
	Yeah, that was a special audio from me.
	Sorry.
	So the Broadway musical is an American art form, and it is an art form.
	It is.
	It's art.
	And so the first play we saw was because we just got here, and we were trying to see something on a matinee today.
	Mm-hmm.
	But we got here and we went to the movie Disaster, which was kind of a musical version of this Poseidon adventure.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	This has been a long-running show, though, isn't it?
	No, no.
	I think it's still in previews.
	Oh, I thought it was.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm mistaken.
	So it's a Poseidon adventure as a comedy?
	It's actually quite entertaining, but you can just see, when you've seen enough of these, you look at it, you go, this is entertaining, it's fun, everybody's really, a number of famous people up there, but you can just see it has no legs, it'll never go on the road, and it's just one of those things that comes and goes.
	But really entertaining.
	I thought so, it was very entertaining.
	A lot of songs.
	And so that's what we're doing.
	Good.
	Until Tuesday when I have the dinner, and we're already getting people jacked up about coming over to the Sparks Bar to hang out.
	Yeah, and what's the time?
	8 o'clock?
	Is that what you wanted?
	Yeah, 8 o'clock.
	8 o'clock at Sparks.
	Or go to dinner there, and then, you know, we have a dinner at 6.
	Yeah, go up to the Dvorak table and go, and then just walk away.
	That's what Mimi says is going to happen.
	They will now.
	They're all going to come and they're going to pester you.
	So what?
	I think that's great.
	Yeah, me too.
	Take pictures.
	Oh, good, man.
	I'm glad.
	And your birthday is?
	Tuesday.
	Tuesday, right.
	Okay.
	So you're flying back on Tuesday.
	No, you have the dinner on Tuesday.
	I'm sorry.
	I got you.
	I got you.
	Dinner on Tuesday.
	Well, good, man.
	I'm happy for you.
	Well, thank you.
	This is good.
	You have fun right now.
	So, the weather is very strange.
	It was hot and muggy yesterday, and now it's windy and cold.
	It's classic New York bullcrap.
	It happens.
	Okay.
	Well, meanwhile, lots of things going on.
	And I... Let me see.
	Let me start today with Euroland.
	Franz Timmermans, who I think is the...
	Is he the vice chairman of the...
	He's...
	What's his face?
	He's the number one guy.
	Who's the president over there?
	Is that Barroso?
	No, not Barroso.
	Anyway.
	Junker?
	Maybe he's Junker's guy.
	Yeah, I think you're right.
	He's Junker's guy.
	I think so, yeah.
	So, Frans Timmermans was assistant secretary of state to the Netherlands.
	When I met him, this was at the radio station that eventually...
	Got burnt to the ground.
	Burnt.
	That's why we have to do this on the run.
	We do.
	I'm on the lam.
	I'm on the lam.
	And I don't know if you recall me telling you the story about him, but I said, during the interview, I said, so you're a Bilderberger.
	I said, yeah, I am.
	And then, you know, kind of laughing about that and...
	I'm saying, okay, so you're one of the elites who was changing us to the New World Order.
	And it was all funny, but he's a very smart guy.
	And he really travels, or used to travel with the Queen, before we had the King, and would go to all these, what he called sales calls.
	And I liked that he said that.
	But then after that interview, he pulled me aside and he said, you know, you're really doing something important here.
	Just keep doing that.
	Which to me at the time meant either he's going to...
	Either he's telling me, hey, you're so right, the New World Order is coming, and just sit back and watch the fireworks because you can't stop it anyway.
	Or maybe he was saying...
	Help me!
	Help me!
	Get me out of the new world order!
	Either way, he's propagating his one world, one new world order meme in the European Parliament as he did just the other day.
	And of course this comes down to migration slash refugee crisis.
	I'd say it's migration more than anything.
	Diversity is now in some parts of Europe seen as a threat.
	And he, of course, was one of the many people in all of the EU government who started with the idea of the multicultural society.
	This is what it had to be.
	This started really 20 years ago, aggressively, when I saw it taking place.
	And I was in the Netherlands five years after kind of the start.
	And you could see everything that is now coming to head.
	You could see these integration issues, because these countries in Europe are just not integration or immigration countries.
	But that's not acceptable.
	That's not what we're going to do, people.
	We're back to the multicultural society, except we're not going to call it that anymore.
	Diversity is now in some parts of Europe seen as a threat.
	Diversity comes with challenges, but diversity is humanity's destiny.
	There is not going to be, even in the remotest places of this planet, a nation that will not See diversity in its future.
	That's where humanity is heading.
	You better like it, slaves!
	Those politicians trying to sell to their electorates a society that is exclusively composed of people from one culture are trying to portray a future based on a past that never existed.
	Therefore, that future will never be.
	Hold on.
	So in the past, it was never just countries?
	Is that what I understood him to say?
	Well, there were fiefdoms.
	Yeah, but that's the same thing.
	Not really.
	Well, he says we were never culturally integrated.
	Is that true?
	Do you think we were just all one big mass of people?
	That's bullcrap.
	Thank you.
	That never existed.
	Therefore, that future will never be.
	Europe will be diverse, like all other parts of the world will be diverse.
	You will like it.
	The only question is, how do we deal with that diversity?
	My answer to that is, by ensuring that our values determine how we deal with diversity, and not giving up our values to refuse diversity.
	Hold on, let me hear him.
	You know, this guy, I messed this up, I didn't have enough sleep, but I probably need to slow him down and do the scary voice on him.
	He would be great with this little spiel.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's actually a great spiel.
	Let me hear what he says here.
	Ensuring that our values determine how we deal with diversity and not giving up our values to refuse diversity.
	Not giving up our values to refuse diversity?
	What?
	Yeah, I'm not understanding.
	It's a written statement, so I don't understand what he's saying here.
	Hold on.
	Why don't you back it up?
	Yeah, I'm going to back it up just a tad here.
	...that diversity.
	And my answer to that is by ensuring that our values determine how we deal with diversity and not giving up our values to refuse diversity.
	What the hell does that mean?
	It doesn't mean anything.
	He's an insane person.
	Yeah, I think so.
	That will bring us down as a society.
	If we don't get this right, I truly believe Europe will not remain the Europe we've built.
	Europe will not remain a place of peace and freedom for very long.
	Woo!
	What's that supposed to mean?
	We're all gonna die!
	Oh, okay, that makes sense.
	A war, I think, is what he's saying.
	I hear it as war.
	If we don't do it, blah.
	What does diversity have to do with...
	That's what he's trying to...
	What he really means is integration.
	Yes, but you can't say multicultural, you can't say integration.
	So he's using diversity because that really works.
	I think that diversity really is a good word.
	Oh yes, it's just diverse.
	Admit it, John.
	Have you not been trying since our last show, once in a while, just trying out the new speak we learned?
	I caught myself using it from time to time.
	Like what?
	Like I have native incumbent citizen privilege.
	I tried that one on a couple people.
	Just all these ways to describe people.
	Not old people, but people of advanced age.
	I've been working on that.
	And people look at me very oddly.
	Oh, I call people non-disabled.
	Yes.
	Hey, you look like a fine non-disabled guy, don't you?
	I got so many emails from people who are saying, wow, this is good.
	We've been trying it out.
	Fantastic.
	By the way, I just opened the spreadsheet.
	The spreadsheet is wrong.
	Like really, really wrong?
	Yeah, like really, really wrong.
	Okay.
	So what do we do with the spreadsheet?
	I'm going to send a note to Eric and maybe he can fix it or not fix it.
	I don't know.
	But it's way off.
	I mean, Astrid, Dame Astrid came in because I got the email about 9 o'clock with $250 and that's not even on there.
	Yeah, it is.
	It's online.
	Oh, well, then I'm wrong about it being wrong.
	But the number's wrong.
	I know for a fact.
	All right.
	We'll get to that in a moment.
	No worries.
	I'm sorry, I got distracted.
	Eh, no worries.
	It's okay.
	It's okay.
	Because you normally don't...
	I know what your range is for complaining about the spreadsheet.
	Mm-hmm.
	And when I saw the number, I said, well, that's within his range.
	He's not going to complain about it.
	No, no.
	But you complained about it.
	So I had to go check it, and I see it's off by a lot.
	It fits on one screen today.
	Well, at least give those credits away.
	We have to do it on the next show or something.
	It's no good, man.
	It's no good.
	Well, these guys...
	This whole diversity thing, I think, is really just an anti-Western civilization thing, to be honest about it.
	It doesn't really make a lot of sense.
	To me, it still sounds more like New World Order.
	Some control mechanism.
	Something is wrong with you.
	I mean, I think diversity is fine to a point, but not when you're just destroying the culture that you had, which seems to be what's going on to me.
	Right.
	That's what the British are complaining about.
	What do you mean?
	Well, you know, I mean, if you listen to UKIP, they're talking about, you know, the British structure, the British society is not going to be British anymore.
	Oh, yeah, of course.
	That's exactly what they're saying in the year.
	I mean, this is more fodder for a Brexit, for sure.
	Saying, no, pretty much you can't have your own identity.
	This is the way the world is going, and everybody just has to live with it and shut up, slave.
	That's just it.
	Done.
	And the shut-up slave thing is really coming to a head in the Netherlands right now.
	The Ukraine-EU Ascension Treaty is coming up.
	Well, actually, it has been ratified by most of the EU countries so that Ukraine...
	I'm not quite sure exactly the parts of the deal, but it is a pathway into the EU itself, although they're saying, well, that'll take a while, but we have to have better trade agreements.
	And the Dutch people, who are still reeling from the loss of several hundred of their citizens...
	Well, they don't really know.
	Did Russia shoot it down or not?
	Apparently, in all the reporting that we're seeing, the Dutch government never even really used or even possibly saw the radar images the U.S. made available.
	So a smaller kind of upstart party...
	Guys I know, they're kind of douchebags.
	I think they did it kind of as a joke.
	But not really.
	They started a referendum.
	And they legally got the amount of signatures necessary for the referendum.
	And now on the 6th of April, there will be a Dutch referendum, which is an advisory referendum.
	This is what I like.
	And the Dutch are like, oh yes, this is so fantastic.
	We get to determine the future.
	We're going to help with democracy.
	We don't want this ascension agreement.
	And we're going to have a referendum.
	This is really fantastic.
	But if you look at it, the referendum is only an advice to the government.
	They do not have to follow this advice.
	And the thinking is that they'll just say, oh, that was great.
	Thanks for your advice.
	We'll move on.
	But what is interesting in this...
	And I have all the documents.
	The Ukrainian government was hacked, some of their computers.
	And I have a full spectrum of documents regarding the Netherlands Referendum Media Campaigns.
	So the government, of course, they want a yes vote.
	And it's very simple.
	If you look at the ballot, yes, no.
	Although it looks like we have some unique opportunity for this to go wrong because you have to fill in the red square completely.
	There's a circle inside the red square.
	And if you mark anything outside of that, then it'll be invalid.
	Yeah, it's like a hang and chad thing.
	It's ridiculous.
	The pictures will be in the show notes.
	So, the Dutch government, of course, they want to have a positive outcome of the referendum.
	And they have put together a media campaign, and so I have a couple of things that they will be doing, but also who is funding this, and who is directly funding this campaign, funding money into the Dutch government.
	So this is the media campaigns they're looking at, and this has been ongoing, it's almost time for the referendum itself, but this is now the first time the documents are coming up.
	Proposed idea.
	The core of the emotional campaign is designed to resonate with the hearts and minds of the Dutch people through familiar cultural images.
	One of them is Teil Eulenspiegel, a folklore character popular in the Netherlands, Belgium, and Germany.
	Moreover, Richard Strauss composed the tone poem Til Eulenspiegel's Lustige Streiche in 1894 to 1895, which illustrates the cultural significance of the character.
	Today he serves as an illustration of a hipster adventurist who could be played both by adults and children thanks to his unique appeal to all ages.
	The campaign will focus on the musical dedicated to Tal Eilenspiegel performed by Ukrainian musical prodigies, a 10-year-old Anastasia Bainska and Roman Sasnietchen, and a duo of young violinists, and despite their young age, the performances will be performed in Dutch.
	To show their skills and how much we're alike.
	And they really go deep into this about make the kids, you know, make them blonde so they look like Dutch children.
	It's really abusing children, actually.
	The media campaign contains the right photos of how this will work.
	It's very typical, although you never see these documents.
	But what is damning is the 700,000 euros...
	And I have the meeting memo, the notes, everything between marketers and the Prime Minister of the United States and representatives of this person's organization.
	Can you guess which organization it is or who the person is behind it?
	With the 700,000 euros to support the Dutch government with their campaign?
	Soros?
	First guess, you're right.
	Direct payment to the Dutch government.
	Why?
	Well, to protect his stuff.
	We've been through this.
	Yeah, I know.
	I'm just saying it to give you the talk about something.
	Well, I think Soros has lots of interest in Ukraine.
	Seems to be.
	Lots of people have interest in Ukraine.
	He's somewhat behind a lot of this.
	He's behind tons of it.
	I would argue the whole Maidan may have been part of his doing.
	Yes, we've always said...
	Kagan's are working with the Soros's?
	I don't think so.
	Why not?
	Why not?
	Because I've never seen that connection made.
	That would be a bad connection to have in public, I'll tell you that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, Glenn Beck would be all over it.
	Yeah, it's not good.
	Not good.
	Anyway, so it'll be interesting to see.
	And, you know, the Dutch, usually when they feel screwed over, they make a lot of noise and then they kind of like go back and put their head in the sand.
	Sad to say.
	All right.
	So we will keep an eye on that, obviously.
	So I did a little editing since I had a little extra time on my hands.
	You know, I was kind of fascinated by what I've been able to do with Hillary talking.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Now, I want you to play this clip.
	It's a little long, but I want you to play this clip.
	This is Hillary Plane.
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay.
	Impenetrable encryption provides significant cybersecurity advantages, but may also make it harder for law enforcement and counterterrorism professionals to investigate plots and prevent future attacks.
	ISIS knows this, too.
	At the same time, there are legitimate worries about privacy, network security.
	If you even kill it.
	Yeah, okay.
	All right, now, so I've decided to go with people.
	So I'm now using my abilities.
	Yes, your skills are...
	This is...
	If anyone watches Face the Nation, they know John Dickerson.
	Yes.
	Or Dickinson.
	Dickinson.
	Dickinson.
	This is Hillary, the exact same thing, transmogrified into John Dickinson.
	Impenetrable encryption provides significant cybersecurity advantages, but may also make it harder for law enforcement and counterterrorism professionals to investigate plots and prevent future attacks.
	ISIS knows this, too.
	At the same time, there are legitimate worries about privacy, network security, and creating new vulnerabilities that bad actors, including terrorists, can exploit.
	That works for me.
	Yeah, I was impressed with my own ability there.
	Very good.
	How much did you slow her down for that?
	That was a tempo.
	No, that was a pitch change.
	It wasn't slowed down.
	Now, this one is a...
	This one is...
	You remember that stooge that was on 60 Minutes, then we heard from him in the clip?
	Yeah, John Miller.
	He was an NSA guy.
	John Miller.
	Now he's with the New York Police.
	Hillary is John Miller.
	Same exact feed.
	Impenetrable encryption provides significant cybersecurity advantages, but may also make it harder for law enforcement and...
	This is good.
	I like it.
	Okay.
	John Miller, yes.
	Yeah.
	And you want me to continue?
	I don't have any more.
	There's only two I got that worked.
	What are you trying to say?
	That she's a tranny?
	I mean, what are you trying to say about Hillary?
	I'm not quite sure.
	She does have a...
	It doesn't take much to make her sound like a man.
	Let's put it that way.
	I noticed something else about Hillary.
	Because I did a lot of editing myself.
	Actually, the White House and everybody's been editing these days.
	I'm going to have a little package to share with you later.
	I was...
	On MSNBC, Rachel Maddow had an interview with Hillary Clinton.
	Yes, I saw that.
	Did you notice anything?
	Because you had extreme close-ups, which I like.
	I like seeing someone's face for a long time filling the screen because you get to really see their visual cues.
	Did you notice anything when you watched that interview?
	No.
	I didn't notice what you're getting at.
	I didn't notice that.
	Hillary Clinton's pupils are extremely dilated.
	Now, and I looked at Rachel Maddow, and her pupils were very small.
	Rachel Maddow has beautiful brown eyes.
	I do want to add that.
	Now, there was a lot of lights, and I've been in studios, and women, particularly, are always disappointed by how their eyes look on television, unless, you know, that's why you have a lot of makeup on your eyelashes and everything, to kind of detract from the smaller pupil.
	Yeah, you've got a pinhole for a pupil because it's so bright in there.
	So I don't know what she's doing to have these dilated pupils.
	Something.
	But...
	You know, I'm actually irked now that I didn't notice this.
	Well, and I went...
	So I was searching around.
	Google search term, Hillary's dilated pupils.
	No one has noticed this, but there is a study...
	That shows that people trust people much more by a factor of three if their pupils are dilated.
	Well, the reason for that is because I know other studies that indicate that if you're with someone that you're dating, that your pupils dilate if you're attracted to the person you're with.
	Wow!
	Wow!
	Well, that's even better than my theory.
	You're telling me Hillary has the hots for Rachel?
	That would indicate yes.
	Yes.
	Even under the bright lights.
	I think it's secondary that people trust people who have dilated eyes because the signaling would be you see somebody with dilated eyes, that means they're attracted to you.
	You would be more trusting of somebody like that.
	Right.
	Well, Rachel had no vibe for it because her pupils were little pinholes.
	She doesn't like old women.
	And I really focused on him.
	I wound it back and I looked again.
	And strangely enough, at a certain point, it almost looked like the eyes were...
	And I've never studied someone like this, so it's a first impression.
	It looked like the eyes were being controlled by some other entity.
	They were telling a whole different story.
	There's a lizard inside.
	I can see it.
	There's a lizard inside.
	But your pupils...
	I don't know.
	We used to use something called star drops, I think, back in the day.
	I don't think those probably are illegal.
	You put them in your eye and your pupils would dilate for television.
	But it didn't last long.
	And I'm pretty sure it was not good for you, whatever that crap was.
	Sure it's not good for you.
	So maybe Hillary's just on the Vyvanse or the Adderall or whatever.
	Or something.
	Well, I'm not sure which of those things.
	And people in the chat room were saying, contact lenses!
	No, no.
	I know how to spot contact lenses.
	These are not contact lenses.
	No.
	No, go look at it.
	Go look at the video.
	I have it in the show notes by coincidence.
	Anyway, so...
	I don't know which of the SSRIs or anything that Hillary would be normally taking.
	I mean, I think...
	I know marijuana will dilate some people's eyes, but there's definitely not which...
	Yeah, but that comes with redness.
	I don't know about cocaine, whether it dilates eyes or not.
	Somebody might want to look it up.
	I'm pretty sure it does.
	Could be something that simple.
	But I think the idea that she's got the hots for Rachel.
	Rachel, I like that one better than anything.
	It's a good...
	I'm in.
	And I'll say, her eyes, you know, they're clear, but the pupils were big, and I was listening to the words, and I'm like, this woman is evil, but then I'm looking at her, and I was like, oh, she looks kind of nice and trustworthy.
	I felt it, and this is before I'd even searched for the whole meaning behind the dilated pupils.
	Yeah.
	Well, that'll pay off for her.
	Hopefully.
	And as I said, I'll probably do that after we thank some people.
	I have a little package I put together of Hillary and Rachel.
	But first, over to the White House, who were doing their very own editing.
	And since the government did it, I would say this is censorship.
	It was very, very disturbing.
	We had a number of things happen in Washington, D.C. We had the big nuclear summit.
	I'm sure everyone saw the video of the president and, you know, we had, what's her name, the twerp, Susan Rice, and watermelon head Carrie.
	Everyone's on one side.
	And then on the other side, it was all the other people, it seemed like.
	You know, we had people from Japan, from South Korea, and we had President François Hollande.
	And President François Hollande, he's a speaker of French, and everyone's listening in on...
	And in hindsight, when you watch Obama's face, he has a little earpiece in, and looking at him intently, listening to the translation.
	And here's what he at one point said...
	And this is only the, because I have the transcript, and this is the official White House transcript, which is always a bit hidden.
	It's never released paired with the video.
	Francois Hollande said in the translated version, but we're also well aware of the roots of terrorism.
	Islamist terrorism is in Syria and in Iraq.
	We therefore have to act both in Syria and Iraq.
	And this is what we're doing within the framework of the coalition.
	Well, that's what he said.
	What is wrong with what he said?
	I don't know what.
	I'll read it again.
	But we're also well aware of the roots of terrorism.
	Islamist terrorism is in Syria and Iraq.
	What did he say wrong?
	Islamist terrorism is in Syria and Iraq.
	Yes, what did he say wrong?
	I don't know.
	Islamist terrorism!
	You can't say Islamist terrorism.
	Why?
	Because that's not what the president says.
	No one said...
	This is what the huge debate has been about.
	But this was Hollande, wasn't it?
	Yes!
	Sitting across from Obama.
	I think he can say it.
	It's our president that never says it.
	Let's listen to the video as posted on whitehouse.gov.
	When it comes to fighting against these terrorists, we're also making sure that between Europe and the United States, there can be a very high level coordination.
	But we're also well aware that the roots of terrorism...
	There you go.
	They cut it out and put a silence in and then just pick it up.
	Are you kidding me?
	No, sir.
	No, sir.
	And you can hear it.
	They actually put silence in.
	They didn't just edit it.
	They put silence in.
	Listen again.
	What it were not the shit of terrorism.
	Click, gone, and then they come back.
	They took it out!
	That is censorship!
	That's a scandal!
	That is censorship.
	I would think.
	I think you should give yourself Clip of the Day for that.
	Thank you, I think I do.
	Clip of the Day.
	Holy mackerel, that's astonishing.
	It's an outrage.
	It's an outrage.
	And what gall does it take to do that?
	And so poorly done, they just like...
	Why don't they just go...
	They probably were just cutting and pasting in QuickTime or something.
	It was totally, totally...
	Let's listen to it one more time and really listen to the silence that appears in the clip.
	So, what it were not the roots of terrorism...
	And they miss that whole sentence.
	Again, the sentence, but we're well aware of the roots of terrorism.
	Islamist terrorism is in Syria and in Iraq.
	And then he says, and we therefore have to act in both Syria and Iraq, and that is what we're doing within the framework of the coalition.
	Wow.
	Unbelievable.
	I mean, how anal are you?
	Because, oh, we don't want the press.
	I guess.
	Oh, let's not have the press pick up on it.
	That's a great soundbite.
	We can't have that.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	And I would say along with that comes...
	See, the right-wing radio talkers have always been bitching about this, this thing that the president...
	In fact, Hannity on TV does it, too.
	The president will not say Islamist terrorists.
	Correct, correct.
	And you've never heard him say it.
	He doesn't say it.
	I think it's because he's a Muslim.
	I know your thoughts, John.
	Probably.
	I'd go along with Daniel Pipes on this.
	Now, to go along with this, I picked up audio is not fantastic because it was a weird location.
	It was kind of impromptu.
	And this, of course, is where there's slack in shutting people up.
	This was a, I think it was veterans or some guys were ROTC. This question, in fact, was asked by an ROTC guy.
	To the Defense Secretary, Ashton Carter.
	I've never liked this guy, but I don't like his background.
	I just don't like how he talks.
	He seems like he's a total shill for the military-industrial complex.
	And there was something about how he was talking.
	I think you'll hear in the beginning, the serviceman asks, you know, what is mission accomplished in this?
	When are we done?
	What is a win?
	And his response was, cavalier...
	I don't know.
	You tell me.
	I may be just seeing things that I don't like the guy, or hearing things in this case, but none of it sounded very pleasant.
	My question for you is, you mentioned how we're going to defeat Iceland, and what I was curious about is whether or not you have some specific criteria that needs to be met before you're satisfied that we're mission-completely and elimination-wise.
	Alright, so what are the specific criteria that need to be met in order to say mission accomplished?
	Yeah, I do.
	It takes the following things.
	Can you hear this at all, John, or is this going to be too tough for you?
	No, I can hear it.
	So he knows he has to come up with a story.
	I do.
	It takes the following things.
	First and foremost, and absolutely necessary but not sufficient, is to defeat them in Syria and Iraq.
	This is interesting.
	This is exactly what Holanda said, which was also taken out of the video.
	We, first and foremost, although not sufficient, we have to beat them in Syria and Iraq.
	If this is true, why don't we just go in and really do it?
	That's my question.
	Because we're not.
	We're kind of pussyfooting around.
	We got guys from the Pentagon in there, guys from the CIA. But it doesn't seem like we're actually doing that.
	Sorry?
	Our thesis is that we're not doing it for a good reason.
	We don't want to do it.
	We don't want to do it.
	Yes, we want to fill up Europe with nastiness.
	Yeah, because they want the diversity.
	Here you go.
	Have some diversity!
	And that means a number of things, but importantly, it means taking away from them the cities of Raqqa in Syria and Mosul in Iraq.
	And thereby making it plain to all that there is not going to be a state based upon this ideology.
	So that is necessary.
	It's not going to be sufficient.
	By the way, that needs to be followed by To get back to an earlier question, governance there can keep terrorism defeated.
	We can enable the defeat of terrorism, but somebody's got to govern that.
	That's a whole other challenge.
	We're working on that, too.
	But we also know, second, that ISIL has, I'm talking about like a cancer, has metastasized it.
	So here he is with this cancer thing again.
	And here's what I don't understand.
	Somehow he has the idea we can go in and we can just remove ISIL from Syria and Iraq.
	But yet that's not enough because it's cancer.
	So it's going to keep popping up everywhere.
	And while we will be supporting governments...
	It's the same fucking thing.
	While we'll be supporting governments...
	You know, with military stuff, we'll still have our, what is it, the Delta Force?
	What was that instant kill you force?
	I forget.
	I was ETF. ETF, like, I forget what the whole term was for.
	But, you know, we'll be sending guys in to go shoot these guys.
	You know, they're no direct threat to the USA. You're just going to be killing people all day.
	You can't stop the cancer.
	There's no cure for cancer!
	Pops up a little bit in Afghanistan and a little bit of And we're going to need to defeat it in those places as well.
	Each of them is a somewhat different context and a different history.
	We get back to an earlier question, but we've got to go after that.
	And then finally, we have to protect our own country.
	Both from the possibility of attacks that are directed by the outside, or simply inspired by somebody who's lost their way in looking at the internet, and that happens.
	So here's the Secretary of Defense saying...
	Lost their way?
	Yes.
	We also have to go after people...
	Does the military go after people in America who have lost their way and are confused and inspired by ISIS? Lost their way.
	Lost their way.
	And why is the Secretary of Defense saying we have to...
	Is that his job?
	Do we put military on the streets?
	No.
	And we need to protect ourselves against that.
	I'm confident we can do all that.
	And we're going to do all that.
	In addition to everything else we need to do.
	That sounds like Trump.
	We're going to do all that.
	I promise you.
	We're going to do all that.
	Don't worry about it.
	People complain about it.
	What is this guy talking about?
	Just generality bullcrap.
	We're going to do all that.
	In addition to everything else we need to do to protect ourselves.
	We're that good.
	We will do it.
	But it's going to take a lot of time.
	Yeah.
	We're that good.
	Well, what's worse is he's saying we're going to do all that.
	Now, we still do not have the official strategy from our president.
	What we are really going to do.
	You know, this is overdue now.
	I can't do anything.
	Well, yes, and thank you.
	That is, to my point, to your point, there's an interview, I think it's tonight, with Robert Gates, former defense secretary, the guy who was...
	No, wait, Robert Gates, FBI. And then, was he...
	No, Robert Gates was defense secretary.
	Right.
	And...
	There's an interview...
	I don't know if I missed it or not, but just listen to the preview about how the military-industrial complex inside the Pentagon itself really thinks about the White House and the presidency.
	And tonight, Fox News takes an in-depth look at the fight against terrorism, what the White House is doing and could be doing better.
	Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates talks about his reaction during the crisis in Libya.
	I don't want any military plans or options going to the White House that I haven't seen.
	I mean, you write it a little bit more bluntly.
	You say, don't give the White House staff too much information on the military options.
	They don't understand it.
	Pretty much.
	It's a little more blunt.
	Wow.
	Those dummies don't get it.
	And he just laughs at them.
	He laughs at him.
	He said, yeah, we wouldn't tell them too much about what we were doing.
	What a douche.
	Well, that's the way it works.
	Don't tell them how much money we're spending.
	Tell them we can't audit the Pentagon.
	It's not possible.
	We're too busy.
	All the systems, none of them are compatible.
	We're too busy, man.
	We're just too busy.
	Snookering the American public.
	What a waste.
	I concur.
	I concur.
	Hey, did you...
	No, let me ask you differently.
	Looking at the April Fool's jokes that were put on...
	I didn't look at them.
	No, I didn't look at them either, but of course...
	April Fool's has been ruined by the internet.
	April Fool's jokes don't make sense anymore because they can crop up at any time other than April 1st.
	Well, it's even worse than this.
	I stopped doing it.
	I used to be one of the great...
	You did great April Fool's jokes.
	I have an April Fool's gag in the April Fool's Gags Hall of Fame.
	Oh, is that...
	In what state is that?
	It's the Hoax...
	Okay, look it up.
	Hoax Hall of Fame.
	You'll find one of my April Fool's Gags.
	No way!
	I've had a number of good ones.
	But I won't do them anymore because it's senseless.
	The internet has ruined April Fools.
	And then Google came along and made it worse with their lame, incessant April Fools.
	This is what I wanted to talk to you about.
	Oh, that thing you're talking about is just stupid.
	It's not just that one.
	Open table.
	Open table.
	What I've been using for years.
	Send me an email.
	We're announcing lickable menus so you can taste what you're going to eat.
	This is so insulting.
	And you put that next to...
	Wait, hold on a second.
	April Fool's gags have to have some foot in reality, and it has to be kind of a hoax of some sort that they could actually be believed, and then it has to be given away that it is an April Fool's gag somehow in the gag.
	That's the rules, the way I see them.
	I don't care what anyone else thinks.
	Now, that gag, for one thing...
	Open tables online.
	Yeah.
	So how is it even possible to give you a menu that you could lick and taste the food you're going to eat?
	So it's a nonsense joke.
	Yes!
	Yes!
	This is my point.
	Which is an immediate violation of the April Fool's rules.
	Yes.
	What I'm saying is we have lost our humor as a country.
	We used to be so phenomenal with fabulous jokes.
	We were the humor capital of the universe.
	We have relegated into dumbass Silicon Valley Dockers and khaki a-hole jokes.
	And it goes even further.
	Did you see Elon Musk announce his new battery car?
	Oh my god, you have to see this presentation.
	The X? Yeah, and uh, no.
	Oh, the E? What's it called?
	The cheap one, the $35,000 car.
	Yeah, it's, what is it called?
	It doesn't exist yet.
	Whatever it's called.
	Yeah, that one.
	And...
	The 3.
	I think it's, yeah, it's the third model.
	Yeah, Model 3.
	Model 3.
	Yeah, that's why, so you can have the word SEX, S-E-X. The three, of course, is the E and the Haxor.
	Yeah, yeah.
	As his cars.
	Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
	But listening to the people in the audience, and he's obviously doing a form of a Steve Jobs, but you know what?
	Thank you.
	This is where people really need to appreciate what Steve Jobs did.
	This man was an entertainer.
	There's a reason why Pixar is incredibly successful.
	His vision, his DNA is in this company.
	He understood entertainment and real stage presentation.
	Everything else is a sad, sad, sick facsimile.
	And just pathetic.
	And this is what's getting reported over and over in these stupid April Fool's jokes.
	We're losing our humor.
	Well, the April Fool's jokes, I have not seen one that was worth even...
	That's why I didn't pay any attention to them, because last year I decided that it was all over for April Fool's jokes.
	They're not funny.
	They're out of time because of the internet.
	You don't know when the thing was written.
	They can't become a hoax.
	The people are actually having meetings?
	Oh, I got a great idea.
	Let's do...
	We'll tell them we have tasteable menus when you lick them.
	Just lick them on your phone.
	I think it was even that bad.
	Lick them on your phone.
	And then Austin, the Chronicle, which is our weekly...
	The weekly hippie journal.
	It's the weekly hippie journal.
	Front page!
	Our newest resident!
	And there's a picture of Obama.
	Yes, after Southwest, he's so happy.
	He and Michelle will be moving to Austin.
	Hilarious!
	So dumb.
	It's disturbing and disappointing, by all measures.
	Disturbing.
	Very, very disappointing.
	I have a...
	All right.
	Well, before we go into...
	How's the spreadsheet doing?
	Did you get anything we need?
	No, I can't fix it.
	So we're just going to do the spreadsheet.
	I didn't hear it back from Eric.
	He goes as soon as he does the spreadsheet.
	He stopped listening to the show.
	All right, I got you.
	Well, then we'll just do the spreadsheet as it is today.
	No, it's fine.
	It's the way it is.
	It's sad.
	You're right.
	Then we'll fix anything.
	It's not that much better than the way it is, but at least we get one executive producer, and then we'll hear from the people we didn't mention.
	Good.
	Let me do one more little bit, and then we'll go thank you.
	That's a short list today.
	One person.
	But I think I've caught a new Black Lives Matter racial meme that needs to be...
	We need to keep our eye on it because it is false, but it is also...
	Really, it's a horrible thing to do.
	And of course, this would come from only one guy.
	Who's the guy that makes all the crap when it comes to race in the United States of America?
	That man is, of course, Al Sharpton.
	And he was on the Morning Joe's with MSNBC. And they were talking to me.
	Of course, there's some other guest whose name I didn't catch.
	But at the end of this, the guest says something and Sharpton agrees vehemently.
	And has made that statement.
	That's where a lot of the things are.
	If you look at policy issues, she is a step back from Barack Obama.
	She was always the most aggressive on military response in every cabinet meeting.
	She supported intervention and nation-changing in Iraq.
	She supported the same in Syria.
	She supported the tripling of troops in Afghanistan.
	She was always the most aggressive.
	She was far more keen to help Wall Street out than Barack Obama.
	That's what he ought to be saying.
	He is saying that, but it's not connecting.
	And the Clinton campaign is saying that his tone is harsh.
	And the people who die in those coffins, by the way, have a racial makeup that is much browner and blacker than the rest of the country.
	There's no doubt about it.
	Okay.
	What the guest said is of the U.S. military that is being sent into the Middle East, And doing all of this nation building and regime change and propagating democracy, that of those military men and women, a disproportionate amount who die are brown or black.
	I did something really crazy.
	I went and looked it up.
	A little fact check.
	Uh-oh.
	Uh-oh is right.
	Uh-oh.
	Uh-oh.
	The Congressional Research Service released a report in January 2015.
	That's the most recent one I could find.
	And it is American War and Military Operations Casualties Lists and Statistics.
	And besides calling out these douchebags as liars and hateful race insiders...
	I've learned a lot of interesting things about all the way.
	This starts with the Revolutionary War.
	You can see exactly how many people died during the Revolutionary War.
	Service personnel, of course.
	And the Civil War.
	And the War of 1812.
	And it's really quite amazing.
	If there's anything you'd like to...
	Send me that link.
	It's a PDF. So, for instance, in the Revolutionary War, how many military personnel do you think died?
	In the Revolutionary War?
	We don't really know how many we're serving, but we do know how many total deaths there were.
	I don't have no idea.
	4,435.
	That sounds...
	Yeah, I was going to guess in the thousands.
	Right.
	The Civil War, military personnel, we're talking 364,511.
	Yes, there's a lot.
	And then you get World War I, 116.
	World War II was really the doozy.
	More than the Civil War, by the way.
	Because I often hear, oh, more...
	What you're saying right now is exactly what I've heard.
	Civil War.
	Now, this is service personnel.
	So, you know, civilians and all that, that's out of the realm of what we're talking about.
	Civil War is the 364,000.
	World War II, 405,399.
	Then the numbers really drop quite dramatically.
	Persian Gulf War, 383.
	Then we go to...
	The Vietnam War was the biggest one after that.
	It was 50,000.
	I think the exact number is 58,220.
	So yeah, you're right about that.
	60.
	And they also break it...
	It's close to 60.
	They also break it down by...
	You know, by, here we go.
	This is, now we're talking about, this is since the, here we go.
	This is with Desert Storm, Desert Shield, really pretty much from 2001 onward.
	Oh no, I'm sorry, Vietnam conflict.
	Here we go.
	This is a good one for you.
	The Vietnam conflict, which I always was quite convinced that it was the poor black kids who were dying on the front lines.
	Did you ever get that idea?
	Actually, no.
	I never got that idea.
	That wasn't sold to us back in the day.
	It was sold to me that it was, oh, it's always the poor kids with no underprivileged.
	That's the anti-war folks around the world.
	They have a fixed sales pitch and that would be part of it.
	Right.
	Well, just so you have the numbers, the total of white service members, that was almost your 50,000.
	49,826 who perished.
	And black or African American, 7,243.
	Big difference.
	Huge.
	I really had a different view of that, and that's how it was indeed sold to me.
	As an aside, this is also in the table.
	And this is all marked up in the show notes if you guys want to see it.
	So, you know, it's from the government.
	It's the numbers they have.
	Here are the different types of deaths that occur.
	And this is since 1980.
	You can have...
	Well, maybe I'll just ask you, what do you think the number one cause of death is of U.S. military personnel?
	What is the number one cause of death?
	Can I have a couple guesses?
	Yeah, sure.
	Okay, guess number one.
	Food poisoning.
	It is not listed as an item, but it could be part of the number one.
	Try again.
	Friendly fire.
	That is possible, yeah, that would possibly, the biggest number I'll just tell you is accident.
	It's listed as accident.
	Accident.
	Yeah.
	And if you look at accident, it's really, if you look at across the board.
	Yeah, it's friendly fire.
	Yeah.
	I mean, among other things, I was listening to a PBS show, and they were talking about this specific thing, and they used to have a, again, since I'm in New York, a Broadway play they used to put on, and the Army guys, the stiffs that run the plays, they killed this thing, but it went on for about a decade.
	It was about...
	Entertaining the troops with why accidents, you know, you have to be careful.
	And it was about getting run over, running yourself over, shooting your buddy.
	Sure.
	And it was done as a play and it had an impact and it actually lowered the accident amounts because people were more thoughtful because nobody's thoughtful about this.
	And accidents include all kinds of crazy things.
	A lot of mishaps during basic training.
	Shooting your buddy.
	People get electrocuted in showers.
	Dropping a hand grenade in the barracks.
	There's also homicide against each other.
	That's pretty high, actually.
	Yeah.
	Now, here's the number that counts.
	And it's consistent across the board.
	I'm going to give you Operation Enduring Freedom.
	Now, currently, just so you know, the quote was a disproportionate amount of the deaths and going into the coffin sent there by Hillary Clinton, because that was what it was about, which I thought was even funnier, although it gets kind of lost in that whole piece.
	A disproportionate amount of black and brown Americans, which I will take to be considering the two who are talking to be African Americans.
	I do not believe they speak for Hispanics or Mexicans, but that number is even lower.
	Currently, the population of African Americans, as per the Book of Knowledge, in the United States, and this was also a surprising number to me, do you know what the percentage is of African Americans in the United States?
	It's like 17% or something?
	12.3.
	Yeah, okay.
	Mexicans is 17%.
	Now, that's not Hispanics.
	They are listed separately.
	Anyway, we're talking about African Americans.
	It is 12.3% of the overall racial makeup of the United States.
	But if you look at the numbers, the claim was disproportionate.
	Well, here we go.
	Operation Enduring Freedom, 1,999 white deaths, 193 black or African American deaths.
	That is 10%.
	So it's disproportionately less, in fact.
	What was it, 200 and what?
	No.
	Number of deaths in Operation Enduring Freedom, 1,999.
	White.
	Black.
	999.
	1,999.
	1999.
	Yeah, you're right.
	It's maybe closer to 11%.
	But it's not every coffin.
	Yeah.
	No, and it's not true is what it is.
	But they are starting the racial war inside the military.
	This is what I want you to be on the lookout for.
	To say this, you know how Al Sharpton is?
	He's like, oh, that's a good idea.
	So there's about 2,000 dead white people and about 200 and something dead blacks.
	No, less than 200.
	193.
	Less than 200.
	Oh, 193.
	Yeah, less than 200.
	Okay, so there's 2,000, 1,999, 2,000 whites, and 1,93 blacks.
	And according to Al Sharpton.
	Let's listen to it again.
	We can listen to the very end.
	That's what he ought to be saying.
	He is saying that, but it's not connecting.
	And the Clinton campaign is saying that his tone is harsh.
	And the people who die in those coffins, by the way, have a racial makeup that is much browner and blacker than the rest of the country.
	There's no doubt about it.
	Why is this guy on SNBC in the first place?
	Does anybody call these assholes out about this sort of thing?
	I think that everybody, including Joe and Mika, believes him to be correct.
	Yeah, Joe and Mika, what idiots are they?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, they're all killing a black man.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	That's a good one.
	That would be clip of the day.
	Not Dale Sharpton, but your clip indicating it was 10%, but there was no clip.
	You had to do the research.
	I did.
	I looked for a clip.
	Please, somebody spare me the work.
	Fact-checking clips.
	Fact-checking clips.
	But you know how Sharpton is.
	He saw the opportunity.
	You heard the guy say, oh crap, another way to go make money.
	Yeah, let's go protest.
	We need less black deaths in the military.
	Hey, you whitey, kill yourself so we change the numbers.
	Whatever.
	You know how he operates.
	He goes in there and incites racial hatred until they pay him off and he leaves.
	And he saw this.
	He saw this.
	Despicable human being, this guy.
	Yeah.
	Now we're going to start race wars in the military.
	Yeah, that's where we really need it.
	Yeah, let's break up the ranks.
	Actually, most of the military guys, whatever race they are, are pretty together.
	Yeah, of course, because that's how you stay alive.
	Yeah.
	Well, with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C, where the C stands for Caucasian Advanced Age Guide, Dvorak.
	And in the morning to you, whatever that means.
	Also, in the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and the dames and the knights out there.
	In the morning to the chat room, noagendastream.com.
	Thank you all for showing up an hour earlier, because, of course, John's in New York.
	We didn't want to keep him waiting too long.
	And nice to see you all here, noagendastream.com.
	Thank you very much to our artists.
	Let me see...
	This is the artwork for episode 812.
	It was titled Non-Disabled, and the art was brought to us by Chun Ji.
	And we messed up for the second time with this artwork.
	I can't believe it.
	We had used this for the iTunes special promotional thing.
	I don't think that counts.
	Well, the problem is, instead of it saying corporate sponsors, it said corporate sponsors.
	We miss it the first time we use it, and we miss it the second time we used it.
	It's because it's missable.
	It's yeah.
	Well, yeah, it's missable.
	I was disappointed that we made the mistake again.
	That's the way the humans work.
	We're not robots.
	Alright, so this is a truncated list and we're going to thank everybody we can and everything we missed or whatever.
	There's only one person to thank here at this part.
	I know.
	And that is Dame Astrid, Duchess of Japan, who sent in $234.56, which is 23456, one of my all-time favorites.
	And she, unfortunately, the spreadsheet thing that I have on this little laptop, which I was unaware of, doesn't do word wrap.
	So I can't read what she said.
	Dear John, where the C stands for Chick Magnet!
	Oh yeah.
	Happy birthday!
	Please, please, John, tell us more stories.
	They are classic gems from Wine Connoisseur to how...
	Classic gems.
	...to how to burn ants, from trying to pick up girls on a motorbike on a snowy night in Tahoe to where buying fake paintings in Vietnam.
	Incidentally, before you even told the story on No Agenda, I bought a large fake of Klimt the Kiss and a Sunflowers by Van Gogh in exactly one of those little alley galleries in Ho Chi Minh on my honeymoon.
	I think I'm joining the Crush on John Club.
	Wishing you all the best.
	Send pictures, John.
	I love you, Dame Astrid, Duchess of Japan.
	Well, she doesn't say the send pictures part, but...
	Oh, I thought you couldn't read.
	I thought you had no line rap.
	What is this?
	I don't, but wishing the best is a standalone line, and I didn't see the other part that you're talking about.
	Right.
	So I got a letter from somebody saying that he's tried the ant trick, and it works like a champ.
	Okay.
	Would you like to reiterate how it works?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Here we go.
	So, if you're in California where you have Argentine ants, These things are a plague.
	And a lot of the West Coast has them, but we don't have in Washington State, they still have regular ants, which are much more casual.
	So these ants come and they always have, they have a very well-structured society, and one of the things they do is they send scouts out to peruse the territory for possible things to rush in and grab.
	Mm-hmm.
	And so when you see these scouts, and you'll see them once in a while, you'll see it like a lone ant on the kitchen.
	Ants!
	Yes.
	And so you take one of those Bic lighters or scriptolighters, those things you light barbecues with, and you torch them right there on the counter and you leave them there.
	Yeah.
	And then when another, and then of course somebody who keeps tabs on these guys says, you know, Bill hasn't reported in.
	Can we send a couple of guys to look for him?
	And so if you see those guys, you torch them too.
	And then pretty soon they send somebody else to look for the old...
	What happened to these ants?
	Do they communicate through walkie-talkies?
	Or how does that work?
	I don't know what they do.
	Maybe it's psychic.
	Whatever.
	Once in a while, ants will be out there looking for where these guys went.
	Maybe they're running into a different hive or who knows.
	And they'll find the dead ants.
	They invariably find the dead ants within a few hours.
	I don't know.
	These ants really get around.
	And they will sniff and sniff and go crazy, run around the ant, and they won't know what to do.
	And they might go back to the ant nest and say there's a dead ant there and they've sent somebody to get him.
	So some ant comes out and grabs the ant and takes him back, where they analyze him.
	Then they decide whether there's something bad going on out there in the void.
	They analyze them like in CSI. Rotate the ants.
	Zoom.
	Enhance.
	What happened to him?
	He has burn marks.
	So the rule is what you want to do as a human is you torch the ants when you see them.
	But if you see an ant carrying an ant, in other words, one of the dead ants taking him back to the nest, you leave that one alone.
	Yeah.
	Because he's like the guy who's the witness.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, you go tell them what happened.
	Okay, boss.
	Okay, boss.
	So if you see lone ants, you torch them.
	If you see ants carrying ants, you let them go.
	And then within, you won't see any ants for like a month or two.
	Now, if you don't do that, and these ants find something, like anything, some crazy little thing they can see, anything.
	Next, you wake up in the morning, and the kitchen will have a big stream of ants, and you'll find their head into a honeypot or something.
	Who knows?
	But you have to do that.
	People have tried this.
	They all say it works.
	That's it.
	That's it.
	That's another ant killing tip.
	I think I'm embellishing it more and more, though.
	Well, it's good.
	I think it's not embellishing.
	I think you're expanding your tactics.
	I think maybe I've been having a better understanding of the mechanism.
	The ant, yes.
	All right, everybody.
	Well, thank you, Dave.
	Anyway, that's it for us.
	Yes.
	Dame Astrid came in with some money, and that's the end of it.
	And we do appreciate your support.
	Oh, by the way, stop.
	She becomes executive producer.
	Yes, absolutely.
	For the show.
	The sole executive producer.
	It's bumped up.
	And well-deserved.
	We've got another show coming up on Thursday.
	Please remember us for that program.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. And no matter where you are, and of course the Dvorak family is doing this, they are in New York propagating our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Amen.
	Good phone.
	Shut up.
	Shut up. - See?
	I've been watching a developing news story that I just have to comment on because nobody seems to make this comment.
	But you're familiar with what's going on in Myanmar?
	No, I'm not.
	Well, they had the election and that woman...
	The woman won, yeah.
	Well, she didn't win because she's not electable.
	Oh.
	Because it's against the law.
	Here, play this clip and you'll catch up.
	And I have a comment on this I think people...
	No one seems to be paying any attention to.
	His government in 54 years...
	Under the constitution written by the junta, Suu Kyi was not allowed to run for president because her children are foreign nationals.
	She said she will lead the country anyway.
	And as foreign education and energy minister and minister in charge of the president's office, she'll also have a major official role to play.
	Tin Chaw was handpicked by Suu Kyi for the role of president.
	He's not widely known and is not a member of parliament.
	While democracy has made huge advances in Myanmar, the current constitution gives the military a quarter of the seats in parliament and control of several key ministries, so it will have a veto over any new, fully democratic constitution.
	So everybody's all, if you haven't noticed, they're all gaga over this woman and she's cracked the junta and she's got, you know, this president's there.
	Yeah, Hillary's been with her.
	Everyone's been with her.
	Everyone's been hanging out with her.
	And she's cute.
	Has anybody noticed that she's not the elected president and she, this is the, if this happened in this country, this would be the scene.
	It's like the boss tweed phenomenon.
	This is so corrupt.
	She handpicks the president, he gets elected, and she says, I'm gonna still run things so everyone will be happy.
	How is this even close to being a Democrat?
	This is the basis of corruption.
	This is a corrupt system.
	That is pretty crazy.
	No one says this.
	Oh, this is fantastic.
	This woman finally military.
	Get him out.
	And when you say no one, I have to agree because I watched every day.
	I've been watching PBS NewsHour.
	I've been watching the news channels.
	You're right about Friday, by the way, on PBS NewsHour.
	Boy, do they phone it in on Friday.
	Nothing going on on that show.
	But it's all Clinton, Trump, Clinton, Trump, Trump, Clinton, blah, blah, blah.
	There's nothing of worldly views.
	Things are taking place in our world that are interesting and important.
	But we're not hearing about most of them.
	How often do we have to hear about Trump, who's been...
	I'm getting sick of the fact that he dominates the news so much.
	If he says something that gets everybody's attention, oh, that's great.
	Or he says, oh, women should be beaten and hung by their feet if they have an abortion.
	Oh, my God, this guy's an idiot.
	He can't do it.
	And he says, no, I'm sorry I said that.
	Well, you know what, John?
	Kick back and relax.
	Kick back and relax.
	I believe Donald Trump lost any possibility of winning certainly the general election, but probably even becoming the Republican candidate because of what happened to him with this comment, which you just categorized.
	How did you categorize it again?
	What did he say?
	The women who have an abortion should be strung up.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Well, let's go now to...
	Punished, punished, punished.
	Let's go to the videotape.
	And let me see, where is this woman?
	Okay.
	In the wake of this Chris Matthews, Donald Trump interview and how it was presented to the public...
	She should have never submitted to.
	Well, I have some thoughts on that.
	Here is Cecile Richards, though, weighing in on what Donald Trump said.
	Cecile, thanks for coming back for this occasion.
	And with Matthews, I might add, the same guy who interviewed Trump, of course.
	Cecile, thanks for coming back for this occasion.
	What's your reaction to what Donald Trump said on the tape we just showed?
	Well, obviously, what he said was outrageous, but I think what's really important—and I'm glad you pushed him on it, Chris—I think, though, what's important to recognize is Donald Trump's position on making abortion a crime is the exact same position that John Kasich has, that Ted Cruz has, and, frankly, the Republican National Committee and their platform.
	And so I think that the logical next question which you pushed him on is, well, then— What will we do when women are criminals and doctors are criminals because abortion is outlawed?
	That, I think, is a very legitimate question.
	And I think, although people may not want to hear it, that he's saying that women will be punished, we know that they will be.
	We know that they will be punished.
	If you even look at a Republican, you will be punished.
	Cecile Richards has her henchman out.
	This is Dawn Laugans, I believe, and she is also from Planned Parenthood.
	She showed up on CNN. Again, I would just maintain, Allison, that they're horrified to have been outed for what they do every day, which is punish women who seek abortion.
	To back laws that tell doctors they must lie to women, to work to shut down clinics, to ban certain procedures that doctors say are important for women's safety and health.
	I mean, all of these things, that's what their agenda is day in and day out.
	They do punish women.
	The way this sounds is, if a woman looks at a Republican, he's probably going to punch her in the face.
	Isn't that what she's saying?
	For women's safety and health.
	I mean, all of these things.
	That's what their agenda is day in and day out.
	They do punish women.
	We wake up as Republicans in the morning.
	Not that I am one.
	But Republicans wake up in the morning and go, how can I punish women?
	Those horrible beasts.
	It would be so much better.
	Republicans have been so outfoxed by the Democrats regarding anything that has to do with women.
	With women.
	It's humiliating.
	Wait for it, babe.
	Their agenda is day in and day out.
	They do punish women.
	And so they can be upset that Donald Trump is saying it out loud and proud, if you will.
	But I really don't draw a distinction between what the effect of their agenda is in their efforts to punish women every single day.
	Every day we wake up and we think, how can we punish women?
	Yes, that is the Republican mantra.
	That may be true for some Republicans.
	I don't know.
	Maybe the gay ones hate the women.
	I don't know.
	There are gay Republicans and maybe they hate women.
	There are gays who hate women.
	But this is not what Donald Trump thinks.
	But, okay, so prefacing this by saying, as I already stated, I believe Donald Trump has now lost all opportunity.
	I don't think he can recover from this.
	I really don't.
	It is so...
	When Tina saw the soundbite, because we all saw the soundbite of Donald Trump basically saying, as you summarize, women should be thrown in jail if they have an abortion.
	Tina the Keeper, who has been following along with the show and has been looking at Trump with different...
	She, of course, never voted for a Republican.
	She's a woman, for God's sake.
	This would never happen.
	And when she heard that, she went, Oh, my God!
	Oh!
	Oh, I can't vote for him.
	He's all against women, and I understand women, how they feel about their bodies, and you have something growing inside you don't want.
	I get it!
	And of course, you know, when I said, oh, I think he lost any chance of the election because her next comment was, ah, that means we get Hillary.
	Yeah, that's kind of the point.
	But I am here to prove to you that this was orchestrated, set up in collaboration between MSNBC, Rachel Maddow, and Hillary Clinton.
	If I can prove this.
	Uh-oh.
	And, but more importantly, Donald Trump did show he is not a skilled politician.
	Because he committed the cardinal sin, he commented on a hypothetical.
	Now, you never, ever, ever comment on a hypothetical.
	Because that hypothetical can then be used, your answer can be used, and said, that's your position.
	Would you agree this is something you don't do in politics?
	I think that's absolutely true.
	That's why most people say I refuse to comment on a hypothetical.
	Yes, the State Department, we hear it a million times.
	I'm not going to comment on a hypothetical.
	I know what you're trying to do.
	That's what they say.
	He commented on a hypothetical, and I'd like to prove that to you.
	I'd like to show you, and I'd like to take you through the whole thing.
	So a lot of people who are listening to this and jump in, oh, they're defending Trump.
	No, I think Trump is toast at this point.
	I'm not defending him.
	We don't defend Trump.
	I just want to preface it.
	Okay, so first, and everybody saw, let me put it this way, very few people actually watched the Donald Trump town hall.
	It's MSNBC, no one cares anymore.
	There's a million of these things going on, and it was easy to miss.
	By chance, I caught it yesterday afternoon.
	I'm looking like, wow, this is, wow, this whole thing is And this is kind of the sad part.
	Trump was doing what Melania had asked him to do.
	He was being presidential throughout this whole town hall.
	He was being kind, courteous, calm.
	He was addressing things with thought.
	But he made the mistake of commenting on the hypothetical.
	So let's start with what you did not see.
	And then I'm going to go into the segment that started this all off, which was 100% Rachel Maddow right after it took place.
	And, well, you'll see that in a moment.
	So first, about a minute of what you didn't hear, the lead in with a question from this young girl to Donald Trump, his answers, and then we'll get into how this was propagated into making Donald Trump pretty much unelectable.
	Young lady.
	Hello.
	What is your stance on women's rights and their right to choose in their own reproductive health?
	As you know, I'm pro-life.
	I think you know that.
	With the three exceptions.
	Pretty much that's my stance.
	Is that okay?
	You understand?
	What should the law be on abortion?
	Well, I have been pro-life.
	I know.
	What should the law be?
	I know your prince's law.
	That's a good value.
	But what should be the law?
	They've set the law.
	And frankly, the judges...
	I mean, you're going to have a very big election coming up for that reason.
	Because you have judges where it's a real tipping point.
	And with the loss of Scalia, who was a very strong conservative, this presidential election is going to be very important.
	Because when you say, what's the law?
	Nobody knows what the law is going to be.
	It depends on who gets elected.
	Because somebody's going to appoint conservative judges, and somebody's going to appoint liberal judges, depending on who wins.
	I've never understood the pro-life position.
	I never understood it.
	Because I understand in principle, it's human life as people see it.
	Which it is.
	Well, what crime is it?
	Well, it's human life.
	No, should the woman be punished?
	Okay.
	That is what you did not hear and not see in any of the clips.
	You only saw that if you watched it live from the beginning.
	I want to make a quick comment.
	You're right.
	In terms of what they're passing around.
	But I think it's interesting that a commentator...
	We'll say that he doesn't understand in any way the pro-life position.
	Well, it gets more interesting because Donald Trump, I don't know if it was a trap, but he put his foot right into it with that question.
	It was a trap, obviously.
	So, right after this thing was done, this was just a...
	Yes, go ahead.
	One more thing.
	Yeah.
	Chris Matthews is going to take credit for bringing Donald Trump down.
	Oh, of course.
	And that's going to be some...
	He's going to be some...
	He'll have a network job.
	He's moving to the big house.
	No, that's not possible in his flesh mouth.
	He's not moving up to the big house, no?
	I like the big house.
	You know, he's just going to take credit.
	It's going to be in his bio.
	So the way this aired linearly...
	And this topic was the last topic of this town hall.
	Right after that, Rachel Maddow comes on the show.
	So I saw this in linear sequence, and I was just...
	Now I'm like, oh my god, this is great.
	Here is how it went down.
	What happened?
	Rachel Maddow had a scheduled interview with Hillary Clinton.
	I don't know if you've watched the Rachel Maddow show lately, but unfortunately I've been...
	I watch it about once a week.
	So she does a lot of embellishment and long setups.
	Oh, and she's terrible.
	She's got one of the worst shows, and she's so snotty.
	Geez.
	Oh, get ready.
	You got a bucket?
	So she was interviewing Hillary Clinton while this town hall was taking place.
	And I left...
	It's a little long, but it's going to be worth it.
	I left in there the adoration and the love for Hillary and just how awesome Rachel Maddow is and how awesome Hillary is.
	And it just goes on and on and on.
	And then she'll eventually lead into the piece that we all saw.
	In fact, she actually aired a much longer piece than it was cut down to in most other newscasts.
	But there were also three edits.
	And those three edits...
	I have to say were extremely important to the context of what was going on.
	And it was a railroad job.
	Top quality.
	Top notch.
	Good job.
	But it was a railroad job.
	So here is Rachel first explaining how awesome.
	Because Hillary was at the theater and she had to go in.
	Her name up on the marquee at the Apollo Theater.
	You can see in the foreground there are some Bernie people across the street.
	She's very Hillary.
	So Bernie people across the street.
	Losers.
	Losers.
	You can see in the foreground there are some Bernie people across the street from the theater.
	Meanwhile, while that was all happening, me and my crew, we're all inside the Apollo, backstage in the offices there, prepping last-minute questions and research for Secretary Clinton, fact-checking everything.
	You see photos of them on laptops, fact-checking everything, because we're going to interview the next president of the United States.
	We've got to be perfect.
	It's got to be all perfectly perfect.
	Clinton fact checking everything we were going to ask her and put to her.
	As soon as the event ended and they cleared out that auditorium that had been so full to see her, we rushed in as fast as possible to set up the lighting and the cameras and the microphones and the chairs and the tables and the water glasses and everything on that stage.
	I got seated on the stage, then she got seated right after me, and then it's like, rush, right?
	Everybody got your phones turned off?
	Okay, good, we gotta go.
	Secretary Clinton and I kibitz for just a teeny tiny second.
	Oh, we kibitz just because we're such good friends.
	We kibitz for a tiny teeny second, but we had business to do, so we had to hurry up.
	For just a teeny tiny second until everything is adjusted in terms of the lights and the sound and everything, and then we go.
	Go, go, go, go, go.
	No messing around.
	She's only got so much time.
	She's a presidential candidate.
	She's the next president, guys.
	We do the interview.
	It's fairly intense.
	You're going to see it in just a moment.
	She ends up making news on the Supreme Court and on Bernie Sanders and on what European leaders have been privately telling her during the campaign.
	That's just another great bit.
	But anyways, Rachel helped Hillary make news.
	And, and, and, and, and.
	And, and, and.
	Fascinating interview.
	Super intense.
	And then wrapped.
	Super intense.
	It's over.
	She's got to go.
	We got to go.
	So, whoo.
	Woo!
	Turn on the lights.
	Ah, let's go.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	And then we all get off that stage.
	We grab our stuff.
	We all turn our phones back on.
	And what happened?
	My phone's blown up!
	And...
	Oh my God!
	What just happened?
	Well, that was happening and we had our phones turned off.
	Did you guys see this?
	Literally, while we were taping that interview with Hillary Clinton today, Chris Matthews was simultaneously doing the part of his town hall with Donald Trump where Donald Trump started pontificating on exactly how he would like to punish women.
	Now, hold on a second.
	That lead-in is already misleading.
	How he would like to punish women.
	He didn't.
	Did you hear anything like that?
	Do you ever see any of these soundbites of him saying, here's how I'd like to punish women?
	Here's how I'd like to punish women.
	First, I'd like to punch them in the gut.
	Punish women?
	And slap them, slap them, slap them left, slap them right.
	And then bang in the ear.
	Boom!
	Pop that eardrum.
	And then one more sock to the solar plexus.
	And then tell them to stop it.
	Yeah, no, I don't think I saw that one either.
	I didn't hear any of that.
	Exactly how he would like to punish women, jail them maybe, maybe some fines.
	If any American woman tried to have an abortion in this country, once he was president, an abortion was banned.
	So the lead-in is saying...
	That's actually really horrible.
	Yeah, well, now I don't know if she...
	I really dislike her.
	I have to only think that...
	She's driving back from the Apollo Theater.
	I don't think it was online right after the broadcast.
	So I don't know if she actually saw the whole 17 minutes of this particular topic or not.
	But she leads in.
	And remember, Trump was quoting a hypothetical, which she edited the hypothetical context out in the piece she is about to play.
	Of course, she doesn't start with the context of the question and how he answered it first, which was appropriate, saying, hey, this is going to be an important election.
	Whoever gets in is going to get that final judge vote, and that could change how the abortion laws run in America, which is not abnormal for a Republican candidate to say.
	But that's a little different than he talked about how he is going to punish women once he's president and changes the law, which is not his change to make.
	And I will stop at the first edit because there were three where she edited out most of the context of this hypothetical.
	vehicle.
	Should the woman be punished for having an abortion?
	Look...
	This is not something you can dodge.
	If you say abortion is a crime or abortion is murder, you have to deal with it under the law.
	Should abortion be punished?
	Well, people in certain parts of the Republican Party and conservative Republicans would say yes, they should be punished.
	How about you?
	I would say that it's a very serious problem.
	And that's a problem that we have to decide on.
	It's very hard.
	Are you going to say put them in jail?
	Notice Trump is actually asking him.
	Are you saying you're going to put him in jail?
	You're going to say put them in jail?
	Because you say you want to ban it.
	What's that mean?
	I am against.
	I am pro-life, yes.
	How do you ban abortion?
	How do you actually do it?
	Well, you know, you'll go back to a...
	Here's where Trump messes up a bit because what he wants to say is that may not be such a good idea to ban it because then women would resort to coat hanger shops.
	That's what he's saying, but he screws it up and it comes out wrong.
	You know, you'll go back to a position like they had where people will perhaps go to illegal places.
	At this point, John, would you agree that he is refuting what Matthews is saying?
	He's handling it well.
	Yeah.
	Like they had, where people will perhaps go to illegal places.
	Yeah.
	But you have to ban it.
	You ban it and they go to somebody who flunked out of medical school.
	Again, this is hypothetical now.
	Yes, I think I... And how do you feel about the Catholic Church's position?
	Well, I accept the teaching authority of my church on moral issues.
	But do you know their position on abortion?
	Yes, I do.
	And do you concur with that position?
	I concur with their moral position, but legally I get to the question.
	Here's my problem.
	No, no, but let me ask you, but what do you say about your church?
	It's not funny.
	It's really not a funny thing.
	What do you say about your church?
	They're very, very strong.
	But the churches make their moral judgments, but you running for president of the United States will be chief of executive of the United States.
	Do you believe in punishment for abortion, yes or no, as a principle?
	The answer is that...
	There has to be some form of punishment.
	For the woman?
	Yeah, there has to be some form.
	Ten years?
	I don't know.
	That I don't know.
	Why not?
	I don't know.
	You take positions in everything else.
	Frankly, I do take positions in everything else.
	It's a very complicated position.
	What you didn't hear was the crafty edit between Trump's answer and Matthew's answer.
	And then it jumps in saying, do you believe the woman should be punished?
	They took out his follow-on, which is 43 seconds.
	Where he continues badgering Matthews about his religion.
	And I understand exactly what he was trying to do, but he was doing a hypothetical.
	What he wanted Matthews to say was, yes, I'm a devout Catholic.
	Yes, the Catholic Church is against abortion, considers it murder.
	And Trump was trying to get him to say, so what is the punishment the Catholic Church hands out?
	Hail Mary's?
	Or what is it?
	That was what he was trying to say.
	Thereby saying, you know, yeah, if it's law and you break the law, there has to be punishment.
	So what is the right punishment?
	Well, how does the Catholic Church handle that?
	What is your idea, Chris Matthews?
	That was taken out.
	Here's the bit where he continues to badger him.
	But you say bluntly you're pro-life, meaning you want to bad it.
	No, let's not talk about my religion.
	No, no.
	I am talking about your religion.
	Your religion.
	I mean, you say you're a very good Catholic.
	I didn't say very good.
	I said I'm a Catholic.
	Secondly, let me ask you this.
	You're running for president.
	I'm not.
	I'm asking you, what should a woman face if she chooses to have an abortion?
	I'm not going to do that.
	I'm not going to play that game.
	Game?
	You have...
	He even says, I'm not going to play that game with you, Chris Matthews.
	You didn't see this on the Rachel Maddow piece.
	No.
	Why not?
	You said you're pro-life.
	I am pro-life.
	That means banning abortion.
	And so is the Catholic Church pro-life.
	But this isn't Spain.
	The Church doesn't control the government.
	What is the punishment under the Catholic Church?
	Let me give you something for the New Testament.
	Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.
	Don't ask me about my religion.
	I'm asking you.
	You want to be President of the United States.
	You tell me what the law should be.
	Okay, so that's where we came back in.
	All that piece was removed, where Trump was clearly trying to say, maybe we should do the same as the Catholic Church.
	It's not what it is.
	Actually being quite friendly, I think.
	If the law is like, you should be punished, then let's make it not a punishment that's too big.
	Now we go back.
	To the Maddo piece, this is where she picks it up, and there's another edit coming up.
	I am pro-life.
	I have not determined what the punishment would be.
	Why not?
	Because I haven't determined it.
	When you decide to be pro-life, you should have thought of it.
	No, you could ask anybody.
	Here's my problem with this.
	If you don't have a punishment for abortion, I don't believe in it, of course, people are going to find a way to have an abortion.
	You don't believe in what?
	You don't believe in what?
	I don't believe in punishing anybody for having an abortion.
	Okay, fine, okay, that's fine.
	Of course not.
	And I think it's a woman's choice.
	So you're against the teachings of your church?
	I believe...
	I have a view and a moral...
	I'm sorry, this is actually the piece...
	The edit was so small.
	This is the piece that was also now in the interview, obviously.
	But I believe we live in a free country, and I don't want to live in a country so fascistic that it can stop a person from making that decision.
	That would be so invasive, so determined of a society that I wouldn't be familiar with.
	And Donald Trump, you wouldn't be familiar with a society like that.
	But I've heard you speaking so highly about your religion and your church.
	Your church is very, very strongly, as you know, pro-life.
	I know.
	What do you say to your church?
	I say, I accept your moral authority.
	In the United States, the people make the decisions, the courts rule on what's in the Constitution, and we live by that.
	That's what I said.
	Yeah, but you don't live by it because you don't accept it.
	You can't accept it.
	Can we go back to matters of the law and running for president?
	Because matters of the law, what I'm talking about, and this is the difficult situation you placed yourself in, by saying you're pro-life, you mean you want to ban abortion.
	So you hear Trump moving on the whole concept of this hypothetical, which he just doesn't...
	He's not able to get Matthews to commit to it, although I think the intent was clear.
	Again, that's nothing...
	Matthews won't bite.
	No.
	But we didn't hear that.
	We never saw that.
	Now she winds it down.
	I am pro-life.
	What's that mean?
	With exceptions.
	I am pro-life.
	I'm sorry, I already had that piece.
	Now...
	Now we go to the...
	Oh, here's the Matthew...
	Rachel's summary is coming up.
	Here we go.
	I have not determined what the punishment would be.
	Why not?
	Because I haven't determined it.
	By saying you're pro-life, you mean you want to...
	That was it.
	I'm sorry.
	I played him in the wrong order.
	Did you see that whole piece that I just played?
	That was knocked out after nine seconds in this piece.
	So that whole piece you just heard was not in it.
	Here's how it aired.
	I am pro-life.
	What's that mean?
	With exceptions.
	I am pro-life.
	I have not determined what the punishment would be.
	Why not?
	Because I haven't determined it.
	By saying you're pro-life, you mean you want to ban abortion.
	How do you ban abortion without some kind of sanction?
	Then you get into that very tricky question of a sanction.
	A fine on human life, which you call murder?
	It'll have to be determined.
	A fine of imprisonment for a young woman who finds herself pregnant?
	It will have to be determined.
	Donald Trump in that remarkable exchange with Chris Matthews there.
	It happened just here on MSNBC. Mr.
	Trump, the Republican frontrunner, pontificating on how he would punish women who might dare to try to have an abortion in this country, something which he would try to ban if he were president of the United States.
	I did not hear him say that.
	Did you?
	No, it was a very good job.
	This was a hit job.
	A hit job now.
	But wait.
	Here comes the best part.
	First, I'm going to play you the last 36 seconds of the actual interview we didn't see.
	Then you get into that very tricky question of a sanction.
	A fine on human life, which you call murder?
	It'll have to be determined.
	A fine of imprisonment for a young woman who finds...
	Crap.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm a little confused.
	It was late last night.
	This is it.
	Here we go.
	Donald Trump.
	Now, this is it.
	So she sees this, she wraps it up, she makes false claims based on a hypothetical with an edited piece, but then...
	I ended up, I kid you not, left the Apollo Theater, came back to my office, and then turned right around, rushed back out again to find her again.
	After our interview was done.
	Because I felt like I really needed to get her response to this development.
	Now remember, this is the woman they had just a few moments of time with because she's the presidential candidate.
	We have to go, turn your phones off, shut up.
	We go, but, but, but, but, but, no time, she's on the move.
	But yet, after this aired, Rachel Maddow, she said, I'm going to go back.
	I'm going to find her.
	Because I felt like I really needed to get her response to this development.
	I'm not in the habit of following people back to their offices after my interview with them is over.
	Oh, please.
	But in this case, that's exactly what I did, and I'm glad I did it.
	Yeah, because we need to get Trump out of the race.
	Because watch this.
	Watch this.
	Madam Secretary, I am not in the habit of chasing people down after I've had the chance to speak to them for a second round, but...
	While we were speaking today, Donald Trump made some remarks that you have had a strong reaction to, and I just wanted to get your take on this.
	Mr.
	Trump told Chris Matthews today that abortion must be banned in this country.
	No, he didn't say that.
	He did not say it!
	He said that abortion must be banned in this country, that he thinks women will go back to illegal places to get abortions once it is banned.
	No!
	He didn't say that either.
	No, he said that's what would happen if that's not a good idea, is the way I heard it.
	He said, quote, there has to be some form of punishment for a woman seeking an abortion, and then he said he hasn't yet determined what the appropriate punishment should be.
	And you said on Twitter about that, just when you thought it couldn't get worse.
	Horrific and telling.
	What do you mean by that?
	Well, what Donald Trump said today was outrageous and dangerous.
	Ha!
	Ah!
	Outrageous.
	Hillary is lying here.
	I'm sorry.
	Maybe she didn't see it?
	But these are lies.
	Outrageous and dangerous?
	Yeah, if that's what he wanted to do, but that was a hypothetical.
	Well, what Donald Trump said today was...
	I'm sorry, you want to say something, Joe?
	Well, yeah, I mean, if you're going to start doing editing on anything...
	And here's what kind of gets me.
	I think Trump's decision-making is a bit much...
	Because I don't understand why he would do anything with MSNBC, which is a clear partisan.
	He tried...
	I think this is the sad part.
	If you look, if you see the whole town hall in context...
	He was really doing a good job.
	He had a lot of policy answers.
	It's still beside the point.
	No, but that's why they had to ruin it.
	It's the enemy, period, to a Republican.
	He refused to do one of the Fox debates, and they're kind of semi-friendly, even though, as we claim, they were actually run by the Democrats like everybody else.
	But this group is, as you proved earlier with the fact-checking on the Sharpton lies, this is a lying, low-level organization that can't get very good ratings, but they can cause trouble, as you again showed but they can cause trouble, as you again showed earlier with the Sharpton stuff.
	And so why would he go and do anything with these people?
	This, to me, is a judgment issue.
	This was showing extremely bad or naive judgment to even come on this station.
	I would say naive in looking at how much work had to be done to make this happen.
	They were just ready for him.
	They were just laying in wait.
	And when can we do it?
	When can we get it?
	When can we put something in there?
	And to take out the entire conversation about comparing it to, you know, or asking Matthews, what does the church say?
	And maybe that's in this hypothetical scenario, which will only be a fact if...
	The Supreme Court decides to overturn Roe v.
	Wade.
	Trump already said in the beginning he's pro-life except for the three exceptions, which I presume are rape, illness, danger to the mother, etc.
	Something like that.
	Yeah, the big three.
	But got screwed.
	And you're right.
	Judgment.
	Yeah, I agree.
	It's a judgment.
	But it was bound to happen anyway.
	It would have happened anyway.
	Well, maybe, but not with so many people so overtly out to get you.
	It just makes no sense that he'd go on there.
	I mean, because they're not going to be sympathetic.
	They're not going to be swayed by his presidential attitudes at all.
	Their job is to, it's a hit job.
	We've got to get rid of this guy.
	Let's see how stupid he is.
	And they just go after him.
	They aren't paying any attention to It wasn't even a flub.
	It was just a cardinal mistake in politics.
	It was a flub by their standards if you did the edit right.
	Okay, true.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	I agree.
	And so, you know, it's like you can do that.
	You could probably take our show and a couple of times you'll say something.
	Nobody's going to get us.
	Oh, you could totally make us in the super a-holes.
	Easily.
	Yeah, because we say, every once in a while you will say something and then if you just take that one comment, even though we...
	I've done it before.
	I said...
	Well, I think these guys have made a huge mistake.
	I mean, not those guys.
	I mean, these other guys have made a huge mistake.
	And you just cut out the first, the second part, and you leave in the first part.
	These guys have made a huge mistake.
	Did you say that or not?
	Yes, I did.
	I corrected myself five seconds later.
	You could have been nice to play that.
	So Trump tried to walk this back almost immediately, and that got no traction.
	That was even a bigger mistake, in my opinion.
	I think you might be right.
	He may have shot himself in the foot.
	Oh, I'm convinced of it.
	I want to play the rest of Hillary Clinton Been how she turns this into what he said was dangerous.
	No, what was aired in the Rachel Maddow show was dangerous.
	And just listen to the rest.
	About a minute left of her.
	It couldn't get worse.
	Horrific and telling.
	What do you mean by that?
	Well, what Donald Trump said today was outrageous and dangerous.
	And, you know, I'm constantly just taken aback at the kinds of things that he advocates for.
	You know, Maya Angelou said when someone...
	Oh, bring in Maya Angelou.
	That always helps.
	Go straight to that.
	The kinds of things that he advocates for.
	You know, Maya Angelou said when someone shows you who they are, believe them.
	And once again, he has showed us who he is.
	The idea that he and all the...
	It should be when someone shows you who they are, believe them.
	What did she say?
	She slipped it in.
	She made sure to believe him.
	Let me roll that back a sec.
	Just taken aback at the kinds of things that he advocates for.
	You know, Maya Angelou said, when someone shows you who they are, believe them.
	And once again, he has showed us.
	I think she said them.
	She said them.
	I think she did it correctly.
	The idea that he and all the Republicans espouse that abortion should be illegal is one that is not embraced by the vast majority of Americans in our country.
	And in fact, as he pointed out, if it were illegal, then women and doctors would be criminals.
	Yeah?
	That part is actually correct.
	If it's illegal and you break the law, it's illegal.
	And this is just beyond any...
	The Republicans are throwing the election.
	Yeah, you're probably right.
	You know, I'm always wondering about when I see something like this happen where they're throwing the election.
	Because they're throwing the election.
	Because Trump, they can't have him because he could actually win.
	So let's screw him over and just throw him to the wolves and get rid of him.
	And let's run Cruz who couldn't beat anybody.
	He's just an unlikable, unpleasant looking person.
	He's slimy.
	Do you remember the first Men in Black?
	The guy who had all the bugs inside of him?
	Yeah?
	Cruz.
	Cruz.
	Yeah.
	He's got bugs inside of him.
	And then once in a while they come out and they appear on his lip.
	Yeah.
	So, I know this is probably completely one of the nuttier thoughts of mine.
	But I've had this thought a lot.
	Early on in the election where we kept believing that they were trying to throw the election.
	Hmm.
	You know, I have this economic theory that has a 40 and 80 year cycle of depression.
	Yes, there's a book coming out about it, I hear.
	And...
	I've always been subtly convinced that the Republicans know that they don't want to be, even though Trump might be able to get us through it, other people have done it, but you really want to put somebody like Hillary in because it's going to happen.
	As soon as she gets in, the economy is going to collapse.
	Within a year.
	Or immediately or just before she gets in.
	But if it's just before she gets in, she's not going to be able to say, well, whose fault is she going to blame it on George Bush?
	I don't think so.
	They can't blame it on anybody but themselves.
	And it should be nasty enough to get them, the Jimmy Carter style situation, because it was the Carter that got, he was the last president that was involved in this cycle.
	And he was a one-term president.
	Herbert Hoover was involved in this and he was a one-term president.
	This happens and whoever that person is, they have a hard time staying in office because everyone gets mad and they turn to the other party in droves.
	And I really, there's got to be some theorists that work within the party that know this and they can say, look, we really don't want, let's, Hillary's perfect.
	Because from the Republican perspective, it reverses the thoughts on women presidents because she's going to be a screw-up.
	We know she's not going to be any good.
	She's going to be a pro-banker.
	She's not going to be any good.
	She's not going to be a good president.
	I know it sounds crazy, but I keep thinking that this is what they want.
	They want a shitty president to be in there, screw things up so they can get in full force.
	If you're playing a long game, which these parties do, then I'm all in.
	That makes sense.
	That's what they would do.
	Yeah.
	That's what they would do.
	You don't need to be in office.
	You don't need to have the presidency.
	What you really want is when you get the whole damn thing and you can really get some shit done.
	Well, of course, what it does boil down to in that case is if Hillary Clinton's elected, then you can be sure that the Supreme Court will be stacked in the left favor versus the right.
	That is one consideration they may want to make because you can't just, unless you go kill the judges, because it's a lifetime appointment.
	Oh, you mean like Scalia?
	Yeah.
	Huh?
	Yeah, I'm not looking at anybody.
	Yeah.
	I just want to continue with Hillary because she really set the tone for this.
	She's been quoted everywhere, these sound bites everywhere on MSNBC, and they just keep coming.
	And in fact, as he pointed out, if it were illegal, then women and doctors would be criminals.
	And this is just beyond any position taken by someone running for president in a serious way in a very long time.
	That's beyond any president, yeah, but it was hypothetical.
	And I think not only women, but men, all Americans, need to understand that this kind of inflammatory, destructive rhetoric is really on the outer edges of what is permitted under our Constitution, what we believe in, and people should reject it.
	I have a question, John.
	She says, under our Constitution, because the Supreme Court made a decision on Roe v.
	Wade, does that mean it's a constitutional law?
	I just don't quite understand.
	In some technical way, I think so.
	Okay, that's what I think she's saying.
	I just didn't really understand.
	It's more technical way than it's in the Bill of Rights, you know what I'm saying?
	But she makes it sound like it's...
	Well, what it is, you take this thing, you have the Roe versus Wade thing, is that constitutional?
	The court decides, yeah, it's constitutional, so it's part of the...
	So it doesn't violate anything in the Constitution.
	...edges of what is permitted under our Constitution, what we believe in, and people should reject it.
	And women in particular must know that this right, which we have guaranteed to us under the Constitution, could be taken away.
	And that's why the stakes in this election couldn't be higher.
	So she's making the election about women, which is what I'd do too if I was her.
	And in an offhanded way, she's making about the judges.
	Oh, of course she's making about the judges, absolutely.
	One little last bit here, which I think is important, because we've been following Trump's comments about NATO. I liked from a process standpoint.
	He was saying, hey, don't worry, military-industrial complex.
	I'm going to clean you up.
	I'm going to make sure all these other bozos who aren't paying their fair share, every country, every NATO member must commit 2% of its GDP, To NATO. And no one else is doing it.
	The president, you'll recall, he was in, was it South America?
	Hey, countries!
	No, he was in, was it, where was it?
	Went to Argentina.
	Was it Argentina?
	We said, hey, countries!
	No, it was in the Balkans somewhere, wasn't he?
	He said, quick stopover.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, he said, hey, you guys gotta step it up a little bit.
	That's basically what he said.
	Now, Trump has a different view.
	He really wants to do a few things.
	He wants to pick up some cash.
	Presumably to route it back into the military-industrial complex.
	He's been very clear about that.
	And he has a different negotiating style and tactic than what is currently being used, which to some, many is the appeal of Donald Trump.
	Here he is on NATO in that interview, and then we'll go back and listen to the Rachel Maddow, Hillary Clinton version of what he said.
	Look, NATO is 68 years old.
	You have countries that are getting a free ride.
	You have countries that benefit from NATO much more than we do.
	We don't benefit that much from NATO. I think you can turn down new deals, but all these deals we've had for years, like NATO and relationships with Japan.
	Japan doesn't want a nuclear weapon.
	We defend, of course.
	Why should they?
	Do you want them to have a nuclear weapon?
	Wait a minute.
	And I'll answer that question.
	A lot of people don't even know this.
	We spend a fortune on defending Japan.
	We spend a fortune on defending Germany, right?
	We spend a fortune on defending South Korea.
	Now, I order thousands and thousands of television sets here.
	They come from South Korea.
	They make so much.
	They're making a fortune.
	They're a behemoth.
	So is Germany.
	Why are we defending?
	Because it's in our interest.
	Yeah, but why aren't they reimbursing us?
	Why aren't they paying a good portion of the cost?
	Quote.
	It's fine.
	It's a good argument if you can get it.
	I'll get it.
	I'm the messenger.
	I'll get it.
	Another messenger won't get it.
	They're going to do it because they like you or they fear we'll walk?
	No, they're going to get it because it's in their best interest.
	By the way, you said something about South Korea and Japan maybe having to develop their own nuclear weapon capability.
	No, what I said is, I'll keep it the way it is, but they have to pay their fair share.
	Just so you understand, South Korea is a behemoth.
	They make so much.
	The ships of the world, the great ships of the world.
	You can't buy televisions anymore unless you go to South other than Sony, which is in Japan.
	The last time we pulled troops in the 38th parallel, we had a problem.
	It's the Korean War.
	We shouldn't be pulling troops.
	I'll tell you what, the Korean War.
	Okay, so we compete with South Korea.
	I have buildings in South Korea.
	I get along great with the people in South Korea.
	Of course.
	Here's the best part.
	Troops.
	The top people cannot believe.
	Of course, they didn't know I was going to be running for president.
	They used to tell me.
	They don't tell me that anymore.
	They cannot believe they get away with what they get away with.
	You know who else?
	China.
	I have the largest bank in the world in my building paying me lots of rent.
	Largest in the world.
	I know China.
	I have the Bank of America building in San Francisco.
	I got through China, 1290 Avenue.
	I've made a lot of money.
	Condos all over the place with China.
	I know the Chinese better than anybody.
	Let me tell you, they can't believe they get away with what they get away with.
	Well, they get away with it because we owe them a couple trillion dollars.
	No, they get away with it because our leaders don't know what they're doing.
	So Trump, what he said, and he was very clear, is like, I don't want them to have nuclear weapons, but if they want us to continue to protect them, they've got the money, they should pay us for that.
	And we know that in South Korea there's been some of that with some sales.
	It was about a billion dollars.
	But it's clearly not equivalent to what we're putting into it.
	And I guess his version of negotiation is, you know what?
	I'll tell you this.
	If you guys don't pay up, we're going to walk away.
	Good luck to you.
	That's how he does business.
	This does not fit in Hillary Clinton's mind, but when you hear her strategy It kind of sounds like we're getting screwed.
	He's complaining that we're basically carrying other countries' weight in NATO and that other countries aren't keeping up with us.
	Isn't there something to that part of the criticism?
	Well, I think it's fair to say that we do want the countries that are partners in NATO with us to fulfill their obligations.
	And we will continue to push that.
	Some countries, as you said, have really stepped up.
	No.
	No countries have really stepped up.
	...in the last few years to do that, and we want more to step up.
	But we have to look at what it means to have defense.
	We have to modernize NATO. What kind of alliance will NATO be?
	How does it protect from the non-state threat of terrorism?
	We've always been an alliance primarily focused on Russia and aggression, then moving our eyes toward Iran and the potential of nuclear weapons and the like.
	We have to take a 360-degree look about how NATO is going to help improve the defense and security of our European partners.
	But I would still argue while we're in that process to get them to do more for themselves and to change some of their laws so they can be better partners with us, particularly on sharing information across their own borders and with the United States when it comes to potential terrorist activity.
	I, again, don't think you accomplish that by holding this threat over their heads where you act like you are totally oblivious to the fact that Russia is probing the boundaries of the Baltic states.
	for example.
	You don't.
	I think, get what you need out of NATO countries, all of them, including the smallest ones, by acting as though you could walk away from it.
	That could lead to the politicians and the forces within, let's say, the Baltic countries, who are favorable toward Russia, like Russian-speaking populations, to say to their fellow leaders, hey, you know what?
	The U.S. is out of here.
	We'd better start making accommodations with Russia.
	This all is a very complex set of I don't think he even has studied or cares to understand.
	From my perspective, I'm willing and anxious to take him on on this broad range of foreign policy and security issues.
	So I have a question.
	You know, here's the way I'm seeing this.
	He is an American who is a capitalist, kind of a classic character, who is really not part of the ruling elite.
	I'll say.
	He's just a rich guy who's in and out of, you know, trouble.
	Hillary's part of the system.
	She's part of the empire, which is your old saying.
	Yeah, she's uniquely qualified to run the empire.
	The empire is an empire.
	It relies on having these bases all over the place just to assert that we're an empire, even though we don't call ourselves that.
	We're a nation promoting democracy.
	How many overseas bases are there that the U.S. maintains?
	Just take a wild guess.
	Eighty.
	662.
	I was actually going to say 300, but I thought I'd give you a break.
	I was very wrong.
	Wow.
	That's a lot.
	And so this, the reason to have all these bases is just to assert, you know, hey, look, look at us.
	Right.
	It's like the Roman Empire, where the closest thing has ever come, we've come very close to being like the Roman Empire, and they had bases all over the damn place.
	That's good to know, this number.
	And that's a lot of moolah.
	Yeah, these bases cost billions.
	Yeah, per day.
	Yeah, probably.
	The Defense Department spends $660 billion a year, and we don't even know where that money goes.
	And nobody sees this as a problem except very few politicians.
	Every once in a while somebody brings it up.
	I mean, Ron Paul would be one of them.
	Actually, there's a bunch of them.
	They mention it.
	They tend to be conservatives.
	I think Bernie maybe has brought it up.
	But it's, why can't we audit these guys to see where the money's going?
	We know a lot of it's just being squandered or it's going to some corrupt deals.
	There's no way you can't be corrupt.
	Which Donald Trump has called out exactly as such.
	Yeah.
	And said he was going to go clean it up.
	We could do a better job with our money.
	Yes.
	And everyone would be happier.
	For sure.
	But...
	Yeah.
	So it's hopeless.
	But I think his negotiating tactic is...
	More obvious.
	You know, so his tactic is, listen, we're doing this for a long time.
	You owe us money.
	If you don't pay, we're going to leave.
	That's kind of how business works.
	Hillary Clinton is saying, oh, you don't do that.
	You say, hey, we can't.
	We're actually, what she said was, we kowtow to them because if we pull out, they'll go to evil Vladimir Putin.
	So we're the suckers in her scenario.
	Exactly.
	And we are.
	But that's the policy.
	That's the way it's always been.
	They say, thanks for having you here.
	We don't have any money.
	We don't want to pay for it.
	Whatever.
	And yet, you know, we can't get in our audited numbers.
	Yeah.
	So in that case, you know, you know, this guy, Milos Yiannopouloulos, the he's a conservative from the where is he from?
	He's from Canada, I think.
	And he's, you know, the crazy blonde hair.
	Gay.
	You haven't seen this guy?
	I'm thinking of the Boris character, the mayor of London, the way you're describing it.
	Well, he does look a bit like Boris, but he's young.
	He's the guy who got unverified by Twitter for some conservative comments he made.
	I don't know anything about this.
	No, we discussed it.
	It doesn't matter.
	Well, I lost it.
	I lost the discussion.
	So he's a huge Trump fan, and he calls Trump daddy.
	And I think he's right.
	America right now...
	And this is probably the hardest thing for Hillary.
	You know, when you're down, you want daddy to come in and fix it.
	And Trump is acting like the stereotypical daddy.
	Come in, make it great.
	You know, you're sitting at home.
	I'm thinking, boy, I'm a loser.
	I've got no job.
	And some guy comes on TV, like an infomercial.
	To be honest, Trump sounds like an infomercial.
	He says, hey, I'm going to make everything great again.
	Oh, you got my attention.
	Hey, you want to be great?
	You want a job?
	Hey.
	It's very simple how this happens.
	Very simple.
	Hillary, on the other hand, has a huge problem which is underreported.
	Luckily, there is Judge Napolitano to the rescue, who gave a nice little summary of the current status of her email investigation by FBI. And although I don't think mentioned in this clip, we just received word here at the news desk of the No Agenda show, We just received word that the State Department has been told by FBI to stop their investigation so they're out of the way.
	They're out of the way what the FBI is doing.
	And of course, FBI is run by Jim Comey, the Republican, so as things are heating up, Judge Napolitano, who had a great show on Fox, he got fired, didn't he?
	Apparently.
	Yeah.
	So he gets to come on and do his little spiel.
	He was a little too old-fashioned conservative constitutionalist.
	Yeah, we can have none of that.
	Here he is.
	I think that Mrs.
	Clinton is currently at the vortex of a perfect storm of legal misery.
	I love that.
	That should be on her epitaph.
	I should read that.
	Perfect storm of legal misery.
	I think that Mrs.
	Clinton is currently at the vortex of a perfect storm of legal misery.
	Her senior aides from her years as the Secretary of State, who are still very close to her, have been ordered to testify under oath in two Freedom of Information Act requests in a discovery context, meaning the ability of the lawyer to ask questions is wide and broad and there's no judge there to sustain any objections.
	And two federal judges, one of whom appointed by her husband, Have both suggested there is likely evidence of a conspiracy in the office of the Secretary of State when she was there to evade and avoid federal law.
	Add to that that in the very same week, the same people that are going to be examined in those two Freedom of Information Act cases are being called into the FBI and asked if they want to speak to the FBI. A very dangerous thing for any lawyer to allow his client to do.
	And after that, Mrs.
	Clinton will be called in.
	The ultimate irony is that the reason she embarked on all this was to hide her communications from the world, from the Freedom of Information Act, from the Congress.
	That was the point.
	There's no other point in doing this.
	It evades, subpoenas, inquiries, congressional committees.
	And now it's all over the world.
	I mean, everything is out there.
	We know that 22 of these were extremely highly secret.
	And it's a perfect...
	The word condign was invented for this kind of retribution.
	This is condign punishment.
	You want to hide your official acts in a way that nobody else has and nobody else would try to.
	I like that word, condign.
	C-O-N-D-I-G-N. Use the adjective condign to describe a fair and fitting punishment.
	Like the condign cleanup work assigned to a group of students after they made a big mess.
	I interpret that...
	I've never heard this word.
	Yeah, it seems to be a legal term.
	Yeah.
	You could pronounce it condign or condign.
	It comes from the Latin con, means together, all together, and dingus.
	That would apply to Clinton.
	And dingus, which means worthy.
	So something that is condign is deserved and appropriate.
	There you go.
	But the way I hear what...
	That was the guy with the scuba diving accident.
	What's his name?
	Krauthammer.
	Krauthammer.
	He said she tried to hide her emails.
	Now everything's out in the open.
	That is a condign punishment.
	Inferring it maybe in a way that nothing will happen.
	FBI won't do anything.
	But at least she had the condigned punishment of all of the stuff that she tried to hide was out there.
	I'm not quite sure what he's trying to say.
	Not quite sure what the FBI is going to do.
	Well, what do you think?
	Well, what I think is that they're going to do what the FBI has done historically and use it to blackmail her.
	So it would be appropriate then for her to get into office and then not to open investigation, but to keep that ongoing and keep things kind of alive to be able to blackmail her while she's the president.
	Yeah.
	I like it.
	Yeah.
	That's the kind of leverage.
	They don't have the kind of leverage that the NSA and the CIA have.
	Right, because they got the pictures and they got the audio tapes of all the shenanigans.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But the NSA and the CIA can embarrass Hillary, but they can't throw her in jail.
	Right.
	The FBI. Yeah, the FBI can do that.
	That's real leverage.
	Hmm.
	That's pretty scary.
	Well, it's not an unusual thing for them.
	It's in their DNA. It's in their DNA. It's because it came from J. Edgar Hoover.
	Is LBJ that thing playing in New York?
	The play All the Way, I think it's called?
	The LBJ story?
	I have not seen any references to it.
	It might be.
	I don't know.
	It has not on my list.
	I saw it in Austin.
	There's a lot of good LBJ stuff in that.
	I think that was pulled already.
	Probably closed.
	Last bit of U.S. election news I have is just the Millennials.
	You saw the bird that hopped up on Bernie Sanders' lectern?
	Yeah, has everyone seen that?
	It's very cute.
	It was beautiful.
	It was really fantastic.
	Well, this has ignited such a passion in the Millennials that Mr.
	Sanders granted an interview to CBS News Facebook edition.
	The facebaggers.
	So they bring out the girl, the facebagging girl for CBS News, who was running the whole facebag.
	CBS News, the Tiffany Network, John.
	The Tiffany Network.
	I remember that, Tiffany Network.
	And she gets a unique opportunity to speak with the man who she clearly would like to see would be the next president of the United States.
	Hello, Senator.
	Will you say hi to all your Facebook fans?
	How you doing, Facebook fans?
	Did you hear what he said?
	How you doing?
	He said, how you doing, Facebooks?
	How you doing, Facebooks?
	How you doing, Facebooks?
	Hi to all your Facebook fans.
	How you doing, Facebook?
	There's also a tone of positivity in your campaign.
	And I see that daily on the campaign trail with you.
	It was most evident when...
	This distortion is their recording, not mine.
	Evident when a small bird came onto the stage and you basically shut down the internet.
	John, a small bird came onto the stage and he basically shut down the internet.
	Shut down Facebook because the hashtag Birdie Sanders started trending.
	Do you think you gained more supporters because it seems birds are on your side?
	Do you think you're getting more supporters because people now know that birds are on your side?
	CBS News, John.
	What the hell are you listening to?
	CBS News, John.
	CBS News, the face bags edition.
	...started trending.
	Do you think you gained more supporters because it seems birds are on your side?
	Well, we think this is a message from the ether.
	It's a message from the ether, John.
	Yeah.
	It's a symbol.
	It's a symbol that we're on the right side of this issue.
	Do you have an animal sphere?
	An issue.
	Bird issue?
	I just want you to hear a follow-up question, then I'm done with it.
	Listen.
	Yeah.
	It's a symbol.
	It's a symbol that we're on the right side of this issue.
	Do you have an animal sphere?
	No.
	Do you have an animal spirit is the next question.
	Oh my god, this is a news reporter.
	Oh my god, that is amazing!
	I can't even play more.
	It's just too horrific.
	Yeah, that's CBS News.
	Hello!
	Hello!
	That's a Borderline clip of the day.
	Take it.
	Oh, thank you.
	Borderline clip of the day.
	I'm going to show myself old by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on the agenda.
	Woo!
	In the morning.
	We do have a few, very few people to thank for today's show.
	What is the number?
	813?
	813.
	813.
	Let's start with Wayne Simmons in Long Island City.
	$101.
	Sir Eric Olson from Water Valley.
	Oh, this says country, but I don't have the states.
	Let me see if I can stretch this over and get the states.
	Yeah, states are an important data point for you.
	Yeah, they tend to be.
	C and E. I don't know where that went.
	Okay, I'll tell you what.
	I'll read the names, you read the state.
	Okay.
	City and state.
	We're going to work as a team for once.
	Oh, that's like teamwork.
	It's collaboration.
	Yeah.
	Hands across the aisle.
	This is what happens.
	This is what it's all about.
	This is it.
	This is a consensus model.
	Leaderless model, John.
	Leaderless governing.
	We're looking for.
	Anonymous in Sultan.
	Washington.
	No, wait.
	You'd better do the city and state.
	Otherwise, it sounds idiotic.
	No, I like doing it this way.
	Keep going.
	Keep going.
	All right.
	John Robinet in $100.
	Blank.
	Nope.
	Town, no city, no nothing.
	He's apparently in parts unknown, I think is the way we put that.
	Parts unknown.
	Thank you.
	Parts unknown.
	Yes.
	Sir Daniel Hochstein in 7388 in Sedonia.
	Sedona, Arizona.
	That's right.
	7388, a double ham shot, and he has a birthday call out.
	Yeah.
	He is November 2, India, Quebec, Foxtrot.
	Ditto.
	Oh, wait.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	I gotta change that.
	He's changed it.
	He got a vanity call.
	W1 Tango Echo Echo.
	And he says, thank you very much.
	I heard about the vanity call from you.
	So he actually upgraded thanks to the show.
	His wife is, I'm sorry, he has a smoking hot wife.
	But his life has become better because of the show.
	That's basically what I was going to say.
	W1T? Echo Echo.
	That's beautiful.
	That was W1T Echo Echo.
	Yeah, W1T Echo Echo.
	Yeah, W1T. T. Tango.
	No.
	Never mind.
	Yes, W1T. Yes, yes.
	Yes, I got you.
	T. Sir Stewart, this is the way the team works, by the way.
	Teamwork is great.
	Sir Stewart Coates, 64-69 in Chelmsford.
	Essex in the United Kingdoms of Gitmo Nation East.
	Brian Seiss, 58-12 in Maryland Heights.
	Missouri.
	Missouri?
	M.O.? Yeah, it's Missouri.
	Maryland Heights, Missouri.
	Maryland Heights.
	Barry Coggins.
	Parts Unknown.
	$0.27.
	Parts Unknown.
	Shane Rosdilsky, our buddy, $50 for Saskatoon.
	Saskatchewan, Scandinavia.
	Justin Barber, $50 in Los Angeles.
	California.
	And that's it.
	Well, we have a couple of birthday donations for you.
	I'd like to read those off.
	These are typically not mentioned because they're under $50.
	Ryan Couture.
	We have from Dallas.
	Christophe Pitode from Goodyear, Arizona.
	Rob Tyson from Rotterdam, the Netherlands.
	Trevor Hoagland, Portland, Oregon.
	Scott Van Walsum, Lansing, Michigan.
	Patrick Koble.
	Sir Patrick Coble to you in Fairview, Tennessee.
	Stanley Jones in Silkston, Missouri.
	Hassan Maynard in Bayshore, New York.
	Rob Maxwell, Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
	And we have an international donation, Marco E. Castellanos from Guatemala.
	Also saying, happy birthday to you, John C. Dvorak.
	Well, I'd like to thank them all.
	Yes.
	And if you were expected to be mentioned today, we probably had a mistake with the spreadsheet.
	No worries.
	We will clear that up.
	But I do want to thank everybody for supporting the show.
	Also, our sole executive producer, Dame Astrid, from Tokyo.
	Another show coming up on Thursday.
	Oh, I wanted to give karma to everybody.
	That's what I was missing.
	Karma.
	You've got karma.
	You've got karma.
	Big milestone.
	Happy birthday from the crew.
	And Sir Daniel Hochstein says happy birthday to his smoking hot wife, Lisa.
	Send pictures.
	She turns 50 tomorrow.
	Happy birthday from everybody here.
	The best podcast in the universe.
	We have one nighting.
	That's it.
	We have Lou the Shoe is all we're going to be doing today.
	So that'll be a shorty.
	Did you bring a sword to New York?
	I got the short one.
	Oh, okay.
	Alrighty!
	Lou the Shoe, could you please stand up here on the podium, on this side of the lectern, if you don't mind?
	Thank you very much for supporting the No Agenda Show podcast in the amount of $1,000 or more.
	And you now can take place to your desired, deserved spot at the round table of the Knights and Danes.
	And I hereby pronounce the KV... Sir Lou, the shoe!
	For you, of course!
	Hookers and Bowl, Rent Poison, Chardonnay, Crickets and Cream, Cuban Cigars, a single malt scotch, cheap wine and chili dogs, raspberry pies and breakfast burritos, pork rip and pale ale, drams and DMT, bad science and perky breasts, Johnny Walker, green label, video games and vaporizers, progressive rock and Russian imperial stouts, hockey and sushi, root beer and pepperoni, pizza, ginger ale and germans, and mutton and mead.
	Woo!
	Long list.
	Yeah, was it longer than a donor?
	It certainly was.
	It certainly was.
	I was watching Antiques Rose Show.
	I've actually played this clip to Mimi, and her jaw dropped too, because this is a very strange, this is the strangest reaction.
	It kind of makes sense when she explains it, but this is one of the strangest reactions.
	They had this oil painting.
	It was just a gorgeous piece, and you could tell it was worth something.
	I was estimating $20,000 or something like that.
	Oh, wow.
	That's a big one.
	When you watch Antiques Rose Show, you try to guess.
	That's the whole point of the show.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	And this is the strange reaction that I just got a kick out of.
	The view is the fact that you've had it in your family, on your wall.
	I've had a look at the back, even the nails in the same place.
	This is its original frame.
	It's never been out of its frame.
	And one of the things about that impasto is it catches some of the dirt.
	You can see that there.
	So it could stand a little bit of a cleaning.
	If I were to put an auction estimate on it, I'd put it in at $200,000 to $300,000.
	Oh, that's terrible.
	What?
	Oh, it was such a nice picture to just sort of have around.
	Wow, so terrible and I have to get rid of it now.
	Yeah, it was a nice picture to just have around and now she knows she has to sell it.
	You can't keep a picture like that.
	that the insurance cost is too high.
	Good poor woman.
	Terrible.
	I ruined my life.
	Went down the wrong tube.
	Hold on a second.
	Yeah, I can tell.
	Well...
	Ah, bola.
	Sorry.
	I had some water and I was laughing.
	It went down the wrong tube.
	Well, I think it's just spit take is what I'm angling for.
	That was close.
	Someone thinks I have SARS. No.
	No, no.
	SARS. SARS. Yeah.
	That's a pretty old reference.
	Yeah.
	Alright, so I'm going to talk a little bit about a funny depression food.
	You know, we always talk about depression foods.
	Yeah, mac and cheese, of course, started the entire...
	That's the whopper.
	But there's one I forgot all about until I saw this advertisement.
	Hold on, hold on.
	I'm sorry.
	Back it up one second.
	Explain how you're doing comparisons, depression foods, and was mac and cheese, was that invented during the depression?
	How is that comparable to you?
	What was the depression food?
	I think it was invented during the 30s.
	Yes, okay.
	During the depression.
	It's a depression food.
	It's cheap crap.
	You know, you can buy a mac and cheese dinner for 39 cents.
	It contains no actual mac and cheese.
	It's cardboard and glue.
	It contains no mac, no cheese.
	But...
	I forgot about this guy.
	And this used to be a fad, and it was in the 70s, and then it just died off right around the 80s.
	But at one point, there were three companies that were involved in this, and they were franchised all over the place.
	So I remember these guys.
	And here's an ad for one of the three.
	This is Archer Treachers.
	Oh, what was that?
	And this is a 30-second ad.
	And this is an old-school ad from back in the day?
	It's a real ad.
	There's a secret.
	Where's the secret?
	The secret's at your fingertips.
	It's Arthur Treacher's Fish and Chips.
	How do we make the meal you can't make at home?
	What makes our fish fillets so crunchy?
	Are chips like french fries outside and baked inside?
	We'll never tell!
	There's a secret here tonight!
	Real good secret here tonight!
	Clap your hands and smack your lips!
	For Arthur Treacher's Original Fish and Chips!
	Wait a minute.
	Did I just hear them say, do you want to actually tell you what's inside?
	It's a secret?
	Well, I think they were talking about the...
	The French fries.
	The spices.
	I don't think of the French fries.
	Oh, okay.
	So there was...
	It started in the late 60s, just before the Depression.
	They were very popular.
	There were three chains around the country.
	The biggest one was H-Salt.
	On H. Salt Fish and Chips.
	I think it was like 800 stores or something like that.
	Arthur Treacher's came after.
	It's H. Salt the one who started the trend.
	They were a Sausalito based company called Salt and they changed it to H. Salt.
	And then they were all over the place.
	And they were real fish and chip shops with the big giant cooker.
	Yeah, sure.
	In England.
	Yeah, of course I've seen them.
	And they cooked these things, and there was H. Salt, and then there was Arthur Treacher's was a copycat, and they were all over the place.
	And there was a third one called Rhodes, which there were still a couple of those left in the 90s, but they're gone too.
	And I have been completely baffled when we talk about this.
	The country's lost its sense of humor.
	We have all kinds of different changes in the culture.
	We have multiculturalism.
	We have all these things going on.
	Why, of all the things that have passed into essential oblivion, I believe there's like five H-salt fish and chips left, and one of them, I don't even know why they exist, is one in Sacramento.
	Why do these things go into complete oblivion?
	Fish and chips is a fantastic product.
	I had to think about this.
	What do you think that might have caused this?
	I mean, do you even notice that there used to be fish and chip shops all over the country?
	Well, of course, fish and chips, the only knowledge I have is that it's a British thing, and I've had a lot of it.
	It's a messy, gooey, very simple snack.
	You throw some tilapia, I don't know, cod, I guess.
	Easy place.
	Sorry?
	A lot of place.
	P-L-A-I-C-E. A lot of place.
	Yeah, that's one of the fish they like to use.
	Oh, place.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's just a...
	It's just a special batter.
	Beer batter, I guess.
	Well, not really, but it's like a beer batter, but it has a fluffy quality.
	It's nice.
	And then they throw in the fries, and it's not a bad meal.
	Uh-huh.
	If you like mold vinegar.
	Yeah, it's all right.
	Okay, well...
	I think what happened, because it seems to me that it would be back as a cyclical snack because it was a depression food.
	I haven't researched the 30s with it, but it really was popular in the 70s.
	Anything popular in the 70s, there was a depression element.
	I think it was killed off because it died off in the 80s when this anti-fat movement came up.
	Ah, yes.
	Fried foods and fat makes you fat and all this other nonsense.
	Yeah.
	And that's the end of that piece.
	On to the next item.
	So what other...
	Well, do you want to talk about the Flophouse?
	We were talking about the Flophouse.
	There's another thing that's going on.
	What was the name of that woman?
	She was Russian.
	She's a Russian woman.
	She started this place in Los Angeles.
	What was the name of it?
	I'm going to look that up.
	I don't have my notes.
	She did a Kickstarter for it.
	Yeah, it was a Kickstarter and she set up these little cubicles, little places you could sleep.
	And the photos of it, it was in the LA Times.
	She hasn't made a nickel because it's, even though they're charging 40 bucks a night or something for these...
	Podshare is what it's called.
	Podshare.
	Podshare.
	So you should look this up.
	And I'm thinking this is another depression...
	analog of something that used to happen.
	I was thinking flop houses or something like that, but it's $40 a night for a flop house.
	It should be really $5.
	Yeah, if you look at the numbers, $40 is very expensive for a bunk.
	You can get a motel room someplace for 40 bucks.
	Yeah.
	Well, I don't know if you can get in downtown LA, but...
	Yeah, but downtown LA is not a piece of cake.
	Who wants to be in downtown LA? A lot of millennials are in downtown LA. There's a whole scene going on there.
	Yeah, so you can spend 40 bucks.
	It's like a bunk.
	It's like a barracks.
	It's more like a barracks than anything.
	In a way.
	And so you sleep in there, and you've got one guy with gas...
	And the whole deal's ruined.
	Yeah.
	Or somebody else, the kind of guys that would stay there, maybe they're throwing up, throwing up over the side of the bed because there's like bunk beds.
	They're little cubicles.
	You have a little television set in there by yourself.
	It's kind of like a small prison.
	This is another...
	This just reeks of depression to me.
	As far as I can go with this.
	But according to you, yeah, okay.
	And no predictions?
	Or what do you think we should see from the previous depression that we should be seeing a version of in this as a signal?
	Well, it's not for fish and chips, to be honest about it.
	No, I don't.
	Because I can go for some.
	I think we're going to have it pretty well covered.
	I mean, we have the Uber and the Lyft and all that stuff, which to me is an analog of hitchhiking, which was ride-sharing.
	Although I was thinking about that.
	Because I took an Uber last night.
	The difference between...
	When I was in New York, 1986-87, MTV. Now, if you wanted a limo or a town car, even, with a driver who would wait for you, you had to do a four-hour minimum.
	It was really expensive.
	You had to book it a day ahead of time.
	Then they had car services in New York.
	This was a big thing.
	Cabs and car services.
	It was the same guy, except the same...
	Usually they were Pakistani or Indian or the Sikh.
	A lot of Sikh, no matter where they're from.
	The beads around it.
	The beads on the stool, on the chair.
	And they had CB radios.
	They were always talking on CB radios with each other.
	But then you had the car service.
	Same guy, same beads on the chair.
	And we used Communicar.
	And just to show you the improvement, and I'm going to give Uber this.
	So, if MTV was going to send me with a car back home, I would have to take a voucher.
	They would hand me a voucher, which is like a Federal Express Airway bill with four carbon copies in it.
	And it would say...
	They had those in PC Magazine.
	Yeah, from 1515 Broadway or whatever to, what was it, somewhere on West 57th Street.
	Yeah.
	And that would be the destination.
	But, you know, you had to call up ahead of time, an hour before, wait on the phone, listen to the recording saying, you know, you're almost 15 more minutes, 10 more minutes, 5 minutes.
	Sometimes, oh, if it was rain, we're experiencing delays of more than 20 minutes.
	All of this.
	And then if you didn't show up after 5 minutes or 10 minutes, they would leave, and then you'd get a penalty for it.
	And all of this now is just you click this app and boom and then someone shows up.
	I gotta say, that to me is mind-boggling.
	I have to say, that is pretty incredible.
	We've been using Uber in New York.
	It's the best.
	It's absolutely the best, but apparently Lyft is pushing them out of business, according to the Uber guy.
	Oh, tell me.
	He says that Lyft is in New York.
	Lyft has almost gotten 70% market share because of the tipping.
	Yeah, I gotcha.
	I gotcha.
	I can see how it makes a difference, yeah.
	The Uber guys are a little irked by this, but since JC has an Uber account, even though they're not number one, it's just like...
	It's just, on his phone, it's always Uber driver one minute away, wherever you are in Manhattan.
	Oh yeah, oh yeah.
	And so you push the button and boom, there's the guy.
	But this is a Depression-era gig, a whole infrastructure, which is beautiful.
	Yeah, the tipping thing, I agree.
	I think that's a big problem for Uber.
	And I don't understand why they don't just go over to it.
	Why don't they just jump in?
	Anyway, just a couple bits of news.
	Just want to throw past you.
	I want to let you go because it's your birthday weekend.
	Everyone understands.
	From the military contacts in Europe, I've received a couple of messages.
	Just want to put them out there.
	One of them, you probably heard there were riots in Molenbeek in Belgium.
	Yep.
	And this was quote-unquote protesters.
	So my contact immediately sent me a note.
	He says, this is exactly what you do when people need to disappear.
	What?
	So if there were terrorists sitting in Molenbeek and they needed to get out of town, get out of the country...
	Creating a riot is a perfect distraction for it.
	Oh, nice.
	Yeah.
	And you can just see the Belgians going, oh, man.
	Oh, man.
	You got away, boss.
	Oh, we got away?
	We were too busy with over there?
	The reason why the almost 700 dependents of US military personnel in Turkey were evacuated, I also got that answer.
	There's specific intelligence known to the State Department and Defense Department that ISIS has said they are going to attack American and Jewish children.
	So you'll see Israel making similar moves.
	Oh, that's the first time the Israelis...
	First time, yes.
	Yes, first time.
	Makes you wonder.
	It may not be legit.
	What?
	The information I got may not be legit?
	Is that what you're saying?
	No, I mean, the information that's being passed...
	Oh, it's being passed around.
	Oh, sure, sure.
	Because we haven't seen any evidence that the Israelis are being targeted for anything.
	They've been blowed up.
	Right.
	There's nothing been going on with ISIS in Israel.
	Right.
	And they specifically said children, which is always, you know...
	Right.
	We know who likes to use that.
	It seems like a bullshit thing to just get the Americans out.
	Out, yeah.
	Or our excuse, maybe.
	Yeah.
	Maybe better, yeah.
	Something else is going to happen.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Something's definitely going to happen.
	And I wanted to put Algeria out there.
	There are so many connections now between the Belgians and the different gangs.
	This is kind of like the Rota Armee fraction, which...
	When were they active, John?
	Rota Armee, the RAF. Were they...
	That was in the 50s, wasn't it?
	I think, but they kind of were still jerking around through the 70s, I thought.
	But, you know, they were essentially, you know, to finance their operations, they were criminal gangs.
	And, you know, they steal expensive cars.
	Then a lot of what is happening, you read it all over Europe.
	They call it, in Holland, they call it a ramkraak, which means a smash...
	a smash...
	Well, it's called Smash Job.
	So they'll steal really expensive...
	Smash and grab?
	Yeah, smash and grab.
	Thank you.
	They'll steal an expensive car, smash it into an ATM, or other form of cash dispenser, That's a good bit.
	Yeah, it's a great bit.
	And they'll have another expensive car they stole, and they take off with the cash.
	And the suspicion now is that these are Moroccan and Algerian gangs.
	And there's a lot of connections with terrorist networks.
	And so I'm thinking, eyes on Algeria.
	Diversity, man.
	What are you bitching about?
	Diversity, yes.
	Eyes on Algeria.
	Oh, and it's called a plofkraak in Dutch.
	I'm sorry.
	I thought it was rumkraak.
	Plofkraak.
	Hello, everybody.
	DJ Poof Krak with you.
	I was listening to the school scandal story on CBS. I think it was CBS or ABC. Oh, I don't know about it.
	And right in the middle of it, they actually had a correspondent go into a paroxysm or something, or maybe he had a Tourette's thing.
	I don't know anything about this story.
	Well, the story is about...
	Oh, well, the school scandal.
	But let me play the ISO before you play the scandal story.
	Okay.
	Who are you with?
	Hi.
	Hi.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Let me play it again.
	Who are you with?
	Hi.
	Hi.
	What is that?
	Well, play the whole school scandal story and you tell me.
	Now to the school scandal erupting in Detroit.
	A dozen principals accused in a nearly million dollar kickback scheme.
	One of the principals once helped on an episode of Ellen.
	ABC's Eva Pilgrim on the celebrated principal and the allegations tonight.
	True.
	Tonight, a fall from grace for this Detroit principal who was featured on the Ellen DeGeneres Show in February.
	Hi, Janie.
	Who are you with?
	Hi, Ellen.
	Hi.
	Ellen, I'm with the most amazing man, the principal of Spain Elementary School.
	Ronald Alexander jumping for joy when Ellen and Justin Bieber teamed up getting his school more than a half million dollars for school supplies and repairs.
	He now finds himself facing charges, one of a dozen Detroit area principals accused of receiving kickbacks.
	The conduct alleged here is egregious.
	Kickbacks cost the school district almost $3 million.
	Investigators say the accused employees accepted inaccurate invoices.
	In return, the school supplies vendor, Norman Shai, who lives in this mansion outside of Detroit, rewarded them with gift cards, cash, and home improvements.
	Principal Alexander is accused of taking $23,000 in kickbacks and bribes.
	The story goes on with more after.
	This is the problem.
	I think just...
	In most school districts, I think California is rife with this.
	These middlemen in the middle, they're stealing all the money, the taxpayers' money.
	Yeah.
	That's what you do.
	I still listen to this woman.
	They threw it to her and she made this crazy sound.
	Who are you with?
	Hi.
	That's a woman.
	That's a grown woman.
	Yeah.
	That's a glitch.
	She's clearly an AI. That's a glitch.
	Who are you with?
	Hi.
	No, no.
	That's the DSP just went haywire.
	You think?
	Sounds like it.
	I watched it and I couldn't see.
	I don't know.
	Were her lips moving?
	It's the strangest thing I've ever heard.
	Were her lips moving when they came out?
	Well, it was a long shot.
	It was a wide shot, so you couldn't tell.
	It's the same woman speaking, but then she makes that sound in the middle of it.
	Yeah.
	Who are you with?
	Hi.
	Maybe it was a DSP issue, but it was the worst one I've ever seen.
	Sounds to me like the AI glitch.
	That's what I think.
	AI. All right.
	I won't let you go.
	You good?
	Yeah, I think so.
	I think we've got stuff coming up for the next show on Thursday.
	We'll have lots to talk about on Thursday.
	I want to make sure you get your...
	What time is it there?
	You're now 2 o'clock?
	Almost 2 o'clock?
	Yeah, almost 2 o'clock.
	And we've still got to do art and credits.
	I'll get you out.
	I'll get you out.
	Is the family like at the door?
	No.
	Are you done yet?
	Are you done yet?
	With your podcast?
	With your podcast.
	With that podcast.
	Dad's podcasting again.
	Dad's podcasting.
	This rig I set up in here is pretty fun.
	Take a picture.
	Quick.
	That's a good idea.
	Take a picture.
	Take a picture.
	And happy birthday, John.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	Happy birthday.
	Thank you for your courage and your passion.
	Broadcasting to you from the skyscraper, the crackpot condo in downtown Austin, FEMA Region 6.
	Yes, we are the capital of the drone star state.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from the 18th floor of the west side of Manhattan, looking at, gee, the sky's blue and beautiful for some reason, but it's windy and cold.
	I'm John C. Devorak.
	We will return with another episode of the best podcast in the universe on Thursday, right here on No Agenda.
	Adios, mofos.
	I got ants.
	Music I got ants.
	I don't know if he had ants.
	We had ant invasion.
	I was thinking if you desiccated a big pile of ants and then ground them to a powder like a fine grind of black pepper.
	We were having dinner and I got an ant somehow at the meal and I ate it.
	These things are peppery.
	I got ants.
	These ants, they don't need a lot.
	And then you see, you find all the ones that are roaming around you.
	Although I backed them off by doing the burning trick.
	You just torch them.
	And you leave them there.
	The only ant, there are occasional moments where there's an ant that you do not torch, and that's an ant that's carrying one of the dead ants back.
	I got ants. I got ants. I got ants. I got ants.
	Ants. Ants. Ants. .
	You slaves can get used to mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	Macaroni and cheddar melted together.
	Mac and cheese.
	Who are you with?
	Hi.
	Living the mac and cheese life.
	Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand.
	There's a secret.
	Where's the secret?
	The secret's at your fingertips.
	It's Arthur Treacher's Fish and Chips.
	How do we make the meal you can't make at home?
	What makes our fish fillets so crunchy?
	Are chips like french fries outside and baked inside?
	We'll never tell.
	There's a secret here tonight.
	Real good secret here tonight.
	Clap your hands and slap your lips for Arthur Treacher's Original Fish and Chips.
	Shh!
	Hey!
	You take your firehouse.
	We're going to escort this person out.
	Adios, mofo.
	Amen.
	Fist bump.
	The best podcast in the universe.

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