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	I'm going to kill in place.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, August 16th, 2015 time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 748.
	This is no agenda.
	Your dark horses of deliciousness are back on the stick again and broadcasting live from FEMA Region 6 in the capital of the drone star state in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I've got a new red book.
	I'm John C. DeMorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
	Oh!
	Okay.
	What number red book is this?
	Five, I think.
	This book is black.
	There's something so wrong with that.
	Hey, I've noticed something.
	What is the date?
	Today is the 16th of August, 2015.
	Have you been out and about with your GPS in the past couple of days?
	No.
	I have heard multiple people complaining about their, particularly Google Maps, throwing them off.
	Yeah.
	Thinking they're on the other side of the road.
	And I'm thinking that this was the meteorite storm.
	Oh, well nobody said anything about it.
	And I would think that if it was a major GPS outage or some of the satellites got moved.
	I think it's going, oh really?
	But you can't move, what was it, not Poseidon, Poseidon?
	What was the name of this meteorite storm we had?
	Perseus.
	Yeah, Poseidon.
	The Poseidon Adventure, exactly.
	A couple of people have mentioned, hey man, this thing routed me all wrong, and I was talking to the Uber guys, like, yeah, what's going on with this?
	Well, you know, Google Maps has been deteriorating for years.
	And when they first came out, I used to rave about it and say that's the only reason to buy an Android phone.
	And then out of the blue, they switched something.
	They switched vendors.
	And of course, Google's closed mouth.
	They don't really have a public relations department except an operation that you email them and they send you, maybe they send you a note back.
	There's not anybody you can actually talk to.
	I mean, you can try.
	Oh, yeah.
	They don't know how to do customer service at all.
	They don't care about it.
	At all, no.
	And so when they made these changes, you couldn't ask them about it because it was none of your business.
	Right.
	But I know that for a fact that they've changed a couple of times because the original, whoever the original vendor was could have been TomTom or Magellan or anybody.
	The maps were fantastic.
	They were like out of control good.
	They wouldn't tell you to keep turning around.
	But this is pure positioning.
	Yeah, no, the positioning is a different issue.
	Yeah, I think it is.
	As opposed to going down, my favorite thing is Google Maps, you go down one street, and it says, turn left on Powell.
	Hey, John, John, I'm not complaining about Google Maps.
	I'm complaining about the GPS situation.
	Okay.
	Well, I'm complaining about Google Maps.
	I know you have a real issue with the Google Maps.
	I'm sorry about that.
	I'm sorry to hear it.
	But I think, and I noticed this because I have a new antenna here in the skyscraper.
	I got a buddy pole.
	You got a buddy pole?
	Yeah, for my hand.
	In Austin, that doesn't surprise me.
	Okay, it's B-U-D-D-I-P-O-L-E, buddy, as a bud dipole, a buddy dipole.
	A bud dipole.
	I hadn't even considered this dumb joke.
	Yeah, I got a buddy pole.
	It's not uncommon here in Austin.
	Okay.
	And man, the conditions just popped up yesterday.
	I'm sure it's because of these meteorites.
	It was just all of a sudden getting around the world on five watts.
	It was nice.
	Well, the meteorite has absolutely zero to do with the troposphere.
	No, but your signals are bouncing off, and it's the ionosphere, not the troposphere, the ionosphere.
	Okay, the ionosphere.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's bouncing off, but the ionosphere doesn't change because of a few meteors coming in.
	No, but your signal bounces around off of them.
	This is true.
	I don't believe this.
	Do you know that I can bounce a signal off the moon and hear myself back delayed?
	It's probably the bathroom.
	No!
	No!
	You can shoot a signal at the moon, it'll bounce off the moon, and you can hear it.
	Okay, do you know the size of the moon, and do you know the size of these little meteors?
	Alright, look.
	I'm not going to argue with you.
	They used to have it.
	One time they sent this big giant balloon.
	It wasn't Echo Star, but it was something like that.
	It had some funny name.
	And you were supposed to be able to bounce off of it.
	And?
	Apparently it worked.
	But it too was a million times bigger than one of these little pellets that comes flying through.
	It's a general cloud of stuff that you bounce off of.
	Just take it from someone who's really a ham operator.
	Yeah, I know, but you make this sort of stuff up.
	I'm not making it up.
	You just happen in good conditions.
	It's just good conditions.
	It could happen anytime.
	It happens every once in a while.
	It doesn't happen in many years.
	Alright, alright.
	So the meteorites are also not responsible for the GPS issues.
	I would probably guess, unless they hit one, those little guys would do some damage.
	Okay.
	But I don't know.
	Something's up.
	Maybe they moved them or maybe they thought there was a...
	I mean, they do move them.
	Sometimes they turn them off.
	You know, I don't understand how you passed your license.
	This was a question on the exam.
	Oh, wait.
	Meteors?
	Oh, wait.
	You're not a general.
	I'm sorry.
	You're just a tech.
	I've seen the general test.
	There's no meteor question.
	Meteors.
	Let me ask you something you know more about.
	You have a meteor shower.
	Can you get better reception off the ionosphere?
	Let me ask you a question.
	Yes.
	Yes, no, sometimes.
	Okay.
	Now, you are like half a generation ahead of me.
	Breakfast at Tiffany's, the movie.
	And I'm still running fast.
	Yes, a very, very seminal movie.
	Okay.
	I saw it recently, by the way.
	Okay, well, hold on.
	I saw it yesterday.
	Okay, I just saw it pretty recently, closely yesterday, but not that close.
	So this is Audrey Hepburn, who, of course, looks dynamite in this movie.
	And I don't think...
	I'm sure I saw it a long time ago.
	My sister was named after this movie.
	And I gotta question my mom's sanity.
	This movie is fucked up.
	This is about a gold digger.
	Audrey Hepburn is a gold digger and some douchebag.
	What?
	I saw it again.
	I remember seeing it when I was a kid.
	I thought it was a fantastic film.
	At least I remember it as a fantastic film.
	Then when I saw it again, I thought the film was nuts.
	It's crazy.
	It's a totally crazy movie.
	What was the appeal of this?
	You got people drunk.
	And the guy, one of the lead characters is so gay, it's ludicrous.
	And that's George Pappard from the A-Team.
	Yes.
	But what was the appeal?
	Why is that heralded as such a great movie?
	It's completely crazy.
	I'll tell you why.
	Because before I saw it a few weeks ago, I remembered it years ago as a great movie.
	And you'd always throw cuts of it.
	You know, the little car going around and around and around.
	They would always be used as reference points for other movies.
	So you just remembered it wrongly.
	Well, I was...
	If you had asked me before I saw it the second time recently, name a great movie, yes or no, or give me a listen, you said Breakfast at Tiffany's, I would say yes.
	Yeah, but not after you saw it recently, because you said this movie isn't crazy.
	You're right.
	It's completely...
	Is this maybe like...
	And it's corny.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And it's all about gold diggers.
	Well, not that, but she's a flake.
	A total nutjob.
	And she's not, I don't think she's that lovable like everyone is.
	I mean, she's pretty tall.
	She's completely nuts.
	But she's kind of like disconnected from society.
	Yeah.
	She's kind of a beatnik of some sort.
	Yeah, I'm in total agreement with you.
	You've got the wrong guy to argue with.
	I'm just trying to understand why it's heralded as such a great movie when you watch it.
	And I'm just like, I'm going to sit through it.
	I really am going to make it, but holy crap, this is dumb.
	I'll reiterate.
	Yeah.
	I thought it was a great movie.
	It's probably like if we would watch Blazing Saddles now, we'd probably think it's stupid.
	I've seen Blazing Saddles recently.
	It's still good.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	I'll watch it tonight then.
	Yeah, you'll know.
	Blazing Saddles holds up.
	I don't know why.
	Because it's pretty gross.
	But it was gross to begin with.
	It was never considered a great movie.
	It was just considered oddly funny.
	Well, anyway, here's what I recommend for all parents who are listening to this show.
	We have a new change in the FDA or the CDC has made a very important decision.
	And I would say rack up Breakfast at Tiffany's When you take your kid to the doctor and your doctor now is allowed to give children as young as 11 years old OxyContin, Play the clip.
	I got it.
	Lovely.
	I hadn't seen it.
	Yes.
	Tonight, the FDA approving OxyContin, that powerful narcotic, for some children as young as 11.
	Critics saying the highly addictive drug could put those children at risk.
	Some doctors saying it could actually help children battling diseases, including cancer.
	The newest addition to the Bush...
	Yes?
	Kids dying of cancer is in dreadful pain, and you're saying, no, I can't have OxyContin.
	He's only going to live another hour.
	No, can't have it.
	I'm not saying that.
	Okay.
	I'm not saying that.
	But I'm pretty sure if you look at the amount of prescriptions written in 2012, which was, what was it?
	The 150 million prescriptions of Oxy?
	Oh, it seems low.
	Yeah.
	Family, Poppy Louise Hager, right there with Mom Jenna, named for great-grandpa, former President George H. Oh, okay.
	I know.
	I got up.
	Sure, John.
	Sure, I'm all for pain management.
	But come on.
	We know that these fuckers prescribe this stuff.
	Anything to children.
	This is not, this is crazy.
	Kids for a backache.
	Yeah, just getting them stoned.
	Everybody is so stoned in America.
	Come to America, people, we're stoned.
	We're not, I'm not.
	I'm not, well, I'm not stoned right now, no.
	You're gonna be stoned after the show?
	Oh, you know, you know it.
	You know, when I always say after the show, I say, I'm going to go get my drink.
	Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
	Uh-huh.
	So I'm listening.
	That report came from David Muir on ABC. Yeah.
	And I want to mention, you know, I've been tracking the three networks, and it's going to be part of a project I'm going to continue for the next few weeks.
	And ABC is the one I spotted with the native advertising.
	They always slip it in.
	Yeah.
	And I couldn't find it.
	I said, oh, maybe the theory was wrong.
	They just did it once.
	I mean, I did find some great native advertising on the other networks, and I found some, well, great is a loose term here.
	I found some native advertising on the Today Show, which is pretty much all native advertising, but I re-listened to one of the clips.
	Yeah.
	And I found...
	Now, I want you to listen to it.
	Tell me if you...
	Knowing that there's some native advertising buried in here.
	It's buried.
	Okay.
	I didn't hear it the first time.
	It was very good then.
	Which clip is this, John?
	This will be David Muir hidden ad, ABC Native Advertising.
	The newest addition to the Bush family, Poppy Louise Hager, right there with Mom Jenna, named for great-grandpa, former President George H.W. It was right there.
	We're already done.
	The kid's name is Poppy.
	It's obviously an Oxy native ad.
	It's cute, but no.
	...whose nickname, of course, is Poppy.
	And we're told Poppy has already FaceTimed with her great-grandfather.
	Congrats.
	Oh, really?
	I've listened to all the reports that this kid is in the news on all the stories, just short stories, not like the long, boring stories about how the royal couple doesn't want paparazzi taking pictures of their baby.
	Wow, I missed that one.
	And why are we even covering that?
	Why do we care in the United States that this is even an issue?
	But every network had the little short story that you heard just about that length on this girl, the baby, the poppy.
	And only ABC dropped his little bomb about FaceTime.
	Yeah, that's good.
	Yeah, that could probably cost $100,000.
	People come to the No Agenda show expecting to hear different takes on the news, different deconstructions, analysis.
	And there was one of my favorite news stories came out.
	Was it yesterday, maybe the day before?
	And it wasn't that hard, really, for me to look into it to see what was going on.
	It's aviation-related.
	That's why I'm very...
	I got 99 glitches.
	Glitch. Glitch. Into the glitch. .
	And put a ghosty on there, will ya?
	Alright.
	I see you have a clip of the air traffic control glitch.
	Should we play yours as an intro here?
	Well, it says air traffic control 1.
	Where do you get the idea that I have glitch?
	Do you need me to play this, or can I just continue?
	Air traffic control one place.
	Tens of thousands of travelers face long delays or cancellations today caused by major problems with a computer system at an air traffic control center in Virginia.
	What started on the East Coast quickly spread well beyond.
	NBC's Kristen Dahlgren is at New York's LaGuardia Airport tonight.
	Kristen, good evening.
	Good evening to you, Peter.
	Well, the FAA now says that its system is back in service, so things slowly getting back to normal.
	I just checked the board inside here at LaGuardia.
	Only three departure delays, but more than a dozen still on arrival.
	And tonight, up and down the East Coast, there are many passengers still stranded.
	At D.C.'s Reagan National this afternoon, the only thing going up was frustration.
	It shouldn't be like this.
	Planes weren't going anywhere.
	According to the FAA, the glitch was in a tracking computer system based in Leesburg, Virginia, supposed to help route high-altitude traffic near the nation's capital.
	And so this is what the airspace looked like for several hours, planes not allowed to fly in or out of the usually busy region.
	Not a good day to fly, so stay home if you can.
	I figured, what the heck, might as well go see what was going on.
	I'm glad you did, because I wasn't interested.
	These things are always interesting to me, and I find it quite appalling.
	This reporting that has been done on this.
	All we do is get men on the street, women on the street.
	Oh, my flight's delayed.
	I've been here for a million hours.
	Terrible day to fly.
	Oh, this is not good.
	So I look into this, and there was a definite glitch, computer glitch, in the ERAM system.
	Now, I have talked a lot about the next-generation aviation system that has been planned for a long time and being implemented in the United States and eventually will go global.
	Because of this next-gen system, we do have some benefits, such as the ADS-B. So you can actually receive aircraft data just free over the air.
	A lot of people are doing this with these little software-defined radio USB sticks that are intended for receiving television.
	You can tune them differently and use them to receive this data.
	Was the ERAM system, which stands for Enroute Automation Modernization.
	This thing launched in April of this year.
	And as the Department of Transportation Inspector General put it, quote, ERAM is a foundational component of FAA's next gen, and it is critical to meeting FAA's goals for increasing airspace capacity and reducing flight delays.
	And I saw, I went back and I looked at this thing.
	Now this is the follow-up to the, also a failed program, the AAS, the Advanced Automation Systems, which you may remember in 1990, they brought this in.
	It was the same thing.
	We're just going to modernize aviation.
	It's going to be fantastic.
	It's going to really, it's going to be great.
	$2.6 billion of the advanced automation system, and it failed.
	And they said, ah, well, you know, at Mulligan, we'll do something new.
	It'll be the next gen.
	And I went back and I read all of the...
	Actually, I'm going to play a little bit of the promo reel while I get these two statements from the company and from the FAA. Let's see.
	This is...
	Here we go.
	The FAA has completed the foundational system that gives controllers greater vision across the 20 Enroute centers, enhancing safety in what is already the world's safest aviation system.
	Oh, yeah.
	The Enroute Automation Modernization, or ERAM, is the future of air traffic control.
	The future!
	By replacing a series of single sites with a networked and integrated system, controllers have greater vision across the airspace.
	Okay.
	So this is intense.
	I mean, this thing goes on.
	You can listen to all of it.
	Just get it in the show notes.
	But every single article about this, when it launched in April, was very, very clear about their redundant backup systems.
	This thing cannot fail.
	I'm looking here at the FAA's own website.
	A fully redundant backup channel precludes the need to restrict operations in the event of a primary failure.
	Nice catch.
	Now, I gotta tell you, This next-gen aviation, and I'm all for improving the way things work, not against it at all, but I have a real issue with the reliance people, particularly dumb people in government.
	Yeah, I'm picking up my Trumpisms here.
	These stupid people in government who don't fly, a lot of them don't, who are making this shit up and just think, oh, this is great, what a bonanza.
	Everyone can get in on this and make some money.
	We're going to be removing pilots from planes.
	That is the ultimate goal.
	Just like self-driving cars, I've got to tell you, These things are pipe dreams for where our technology is today.
	I was driving a couple days ago, and I'm on Mopac, which is a pretty busy road here in Austin, going up north, and I'm amazed at how well human beings do at driving.
	Do you ever just stop and realize that?
	Or not stop, but when you're driving, do you realize how cool that is?
	How your brain is anticipating whatever other idiot on the road is doing and you're just maybe a foot away from the guy next to you traveling at 65 miles an hour?
	We're pretty good at this.
	I'm always fascinated by the decisions two people make separately and independently who both want to make a left turn in a situation where you can go past the guy and make a left turn behind him or you can go in front of him and make a left turn in front of him as he makes a left turn in front of you, which is the more risky of the two.
	And sometimes you can actually look into the other driver's eyes And, you know, somehow you have a communication.
	Yeah, you anticipate what you're going to do.
	I don't know if computers are good at that.
	And we have all these self-driving cars around Austin.
	Let me tell you.
	I see this no different from the trains, the so-called, you know, bullet trains or the high-speed rail.
	After the non-human driver, believe me, comes the non-human passenger.
	You're going to be sitting at home in your fucking pod, working, doing all your...
	I've been passing a lot today.
	I'm sorry, it's the Tourette's.
	You're going to be doing all of your human resource needs.
	All the shiny toys will show up and your food.
	And you're just going to be at home.
	And these cars are not going to be driving you around.
	Other robots.
	Yeah, other robots deliver stuff.
	Cleaning robots.
	Hey, honey, the cleaning robots here.
	Oh, yeah, that I ran.
	To think of having centralized air traffic control is completely insane.
	When the cloud goes down, which is what happened, with this $2.1 billion system, fully redundant, what could possibly go wrong?
	Everyone's grounded.
	The whole system is disrupted for days.
	I would bring people into, why doesn't the Senate or the House bring these guys in and ask them what you just read about the redundant, no problem, if it goes down, another backup will be right on it.
	Why didn't that work?
	Well, there's no reporting, no questioning.
	There's just no one.
	It's like, ah, whatever.
	Oh, it's just...
	What an annoyance.
	It's just an annoyance.
	I guess we can keep reminding people who listen to our show that we actually do...
	And I hate to say it, but it's reporting.
	How hard was it?
	It wasn't.
	I mean, you just...
	Oh, it's the next gen.
	How hard was it?
	How hard was it?
	It was a glitch.
	It was Flymageddon.
	No, I think it was Flypocalypse was what they were calling it.
	Flypocalypse.
	Flypocalypse.
	Flymageddon, Flypocalypse, something.
	Ah.
	Yeah, and everyone's moaning and groaning, and the explanation is simple.
	It's a glitch.
	And I have to say again, you do not want...
	So this kind of evolves into my central theme today.
	If GPS goes out, which won't happen due to meteorites ever, that won't happen.
	We know that.
	Science is in.
	Do you have any idea how much of life that's going to screw up?
	But we're already screwed with the internet.
	Right.
	But even like Uber drivers, they won't be able to...
	These guys don't know the way.
	My wife was bitching about this the other day.
	Here's the story.
	She's a huge Craigslist nut.
	She's always buying stuff.
	Is she on the Casual Encounters, or where does she go?
	No, no, no.
	She buys stuff, like, you know, armoires, let's say.
	MW4TW. She bought a couple of things that are probably $2,500 a pizza.
	She got them for $150 each.
	Nice.
	And so now I have a fantastic chair.
	Because we're moving to a trailer.
	We don't need it anymore.
	Hey, sounds like me.
	You don't have work.
	They spent too much money on furniture.
	So she's talking to these people about getting something.
	And she says, how do I get to your place?
	And the woman could not tell her.
	Huh.
	Because she's been...
	Just use your phone.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, no more directions.
	And Mimi doesn't like using the phone.
	She just doesn't do it.
	She wants to drive around.
	She says the woman couldn't name a landmark, a street, didn't even know what street she was on.
	This is the point where I would not go and pick up the cheap chair because I'm thinking someone's going to be there to kill me.
	Yeah, well, there's always that risk.
	Ugh.
	Um...
	Anyway, I think you're dead on.
	In fact, she asked me about this.
	I said, I use the Navigator because it shows me new kinds of routes.
	But I do admit that if I use it, and I can find my way around.
	But I admit if I go someplace with the Navigator, sometimes I can't get back without the Navigator.
	Because you're paying attention to the Navigator.
	You're not paying attention to where you are.
	Right.
	I have done this a lot where I force myself to just figure out how to get there.
	I look at the directions beforehand just to keep myself sharp.
	But yeah, and we don't even see the whole globe.
	We just see the two miles or two kilometers ahead of us.
	That's it.
	Anyway, you do not want the cloud managing your systems that way.
	You don't want a single point of failure, which it is, even though they lied and said this has multiple redundant systems.
	They lied.
	$2.1 billion after the first 2.6 were squandered on a piece of crap that didn't work.
	It's terrible.
	Well, yeah.
	It is.
	Yeah.
	And that's your tech news for today.
	All right.
	Did you see Donald Trump's New Hampshire speech?
	No.
	Oh, man.
	Here's his new thing.
	Hey, let's give the kids helicopter rides.
	That was Iowa.
	No, he's doing it everywhere.
	He's doing it everywhere.
	Are we doing helicopter rides today?
	Let's do some helicopter rides.
	But this guy...
	The more I see him, the more I'm liking what he's doing.
	I just have one clip from his New Hampshire spiel, which was just dynamite.
	He's taking questions.
	He's saying, I'm not a scripted president.
	You don't want a scripted president.
	Look, I got nothing here.
	Obama failed when the teleprompter failed.
	He's hitting every single...
	He's putting his finger on every open wound.
	He's got it down.
	Now, here is...
	About how he's going to run the country.
	You cannot argue with his logic.
	Our country has tremendous potential.
	We have to take back our jobs from China and all of the other people.
	We have to renegotiate our trade deals by getting people like Carl Icahn and Henry Kravis.
	When I hear this, I'm like, yeah, yeah, get those guys in.
	They know what they're doing.
	The greatest dealmakers in the world.
	Yeah, in the world.
	Like Carl is very busy.
	He's a busy man.
	I called him.
	He said, you're doing great.
	You're doing great.
	Tough guy.
	Calling Carl's story.
	It's a great story.
	You're doing great.
	You're doing amazing.
	You're doing amazing.
	Do me a favor.
	Just relax.
	I want to do this.
	It's like a gangster.
	Carl, do me a favor.
	Relax, Carl.
	Relax.
	I want to do this.
	All right?
	We're going to do this together, man.
	All right.
	Come on.
	If I win, you take China.
	You take China.
	You take those little gookie checkers.
	You take the Chinas.
	You take them.
	You screw them, Carl.
	You screw them.
	I'll get somebody else to take this one.
	I'll get some...
	We will have our best.
	And these people...
	Carl, I think he's a nice guy.
	But some of them are not nice.
	No.
	Some are horrible human beings, okay?
	But they're the greatest in the world.
	Yeah.
	Do we want nice people or do we want these horrible human beings negotiating?
	Let me think.
	Let me think.
	Which do we want?
	Who do we want, John?
	Do we want nice people or do we want horrible human beings negotiating with those crazy Chiners?
	I want horrible.
	That's right.
	Horrible.
	I want the horrible.
	Give me the horrible.
	We will make great trade deals.
	Yes, we will.
	We will save Social Security without cuts.
	We will...
	By making a deal.
	We will come up with health care plans that will be phenomenal.
	Phenomenal.
	By the way, I hope the press calls Carl Icon because he feels very strong about this.
	The gauntlet is down.
	Bring Icon into it.
	And he wants to do it.
	He's so anxious to do it.
	He's wealthy.
	They all want to do it.
	You know, a guy like Carl Icahn, he's worth many billions of dollars.
	Not as many as me, but many billions.
	He wants to do it.
	He wants to do it.
	That's more important to him than a deal.
	He doesn't need another deal.
	I say, Carl, how many deals can you do?
	Just make the great deal.
	It's his country.
	That's the great deal.
	We've got to make this country rich.
	And then we've got to make it great.
	Fuck yeah!
	He's my man.
	I'm down with that.
	Get Carl Icahn in.
	Why don't we give Yahoo to the Chinese?
	In trade for, you know, like, is our trade deal.
	Isn't that one of his?
	Since you brought up the Donald, I'm never going to say that again.
	No, please don't.
	I do have a couple of clips that you have to...
	I thought it was interesting.
	Bill Maher, who just goes after...
	Is he losing his crap over this?
	Yes, but once in a while he calms down and he actually has some observations that are worth listening to.
	And I think this was a fascinating clip because this was Bill Maher actually noticing the same thing I noticed, which was that Fox was out to get Trump.
	Well, let me ask about one Trump.
	He certainly gets all the press.
	We're not going to give him that much.
	But I hear a lot of people say, you know, it's just a bubble.
	You know, it's going to go away just the way Herman Cain and Michelle Bachmann and all these people did.
	But, you know, you kids are a little young to remember.
	But that's what they said about Ronald Reagan.
	I remember when I was 12 years old, in 1968, when he first floated the bubble of running, and it was a joke.
	Oh, come on.
	He had a stupid television show.
	He's divorced.
	He avoided combat.
	He's got weird hair and crazy face paint.
	This guy will never...
	So for all those people who say Donald Trump could not go all the way, I don't think they're right.
	They didn't say he would get this far.
	And obviously, I don't know what the results are from last night, but Fox tried to put a stake in him, and I don't think they did.
	Fox tried to put a stake in him.
	And by the way, they're still trying, but they're doing it more subtly now.
	And the thing was, starting the week right after there was this supposed detente between Roger Ailes and Donald Trump, Kelly quit the show and went on vacation immediately.
	Yeah, for a year and a half.
	By a week and a half.
	But she just said, she was so irked because your boss wasn't backing her up.
	So she's, ah, I got vacation time.
	It's starting tomorrow.
	Bye.
	Right, right, right.
	She must be just steamed.
	Yeah.
	Now.
	What I understood, I was told, and then I have some information coming up, but I was told that it was Rush Limbaugh who called, I guess, Roger Ailes at Fox and said, you lay off him.
	I doubt that.
	Oh, okay.
	Rush Limbaugh's got no leverage on Fox.
	Okay.
	They never bring him on the show.
	I mean, he's never even been on Fox, but once or twice.
	Just what I heard.
	That sounds like gossip.
	Okay.
	Let's try this.
	Now, I only have one other one.
	I'm listening to PBS NewsHour.
	And then David Brooks is on.
	Who's he supposed to be?
	You know, they got Brooks and Shields, and I got this Brooks and Korn.
	This guy is used to Mother Jones editors, and one of the guys from Mother Jones.
	Oh, yeah.
	That one.
	He's weird-looking, because he's got, like, these very dead eyes.
	But the two of them go back and forth on Trump.
	And so it goes to Brooks, who's supposed to be the Republican representative.
	Maybe...
	Kind of being objective.
	But he's obviously a Trump hater.
	And then he says that there's a little thing at the very end.
	You have to make sure to get this little thing at the very end, which I thought was way over the top and demands an apology.
	He's in the catbird seat at least this weekend.
	And I think he'll be for months to come.
	I think it was foolish to dismiss him, not because of him.
	He comes across as a reality TV tycoon buffoon.
	But the people who are, you know, attracted to him are a real important part of the Republican primary base.
	A lot of Republicans still believe that Barack Obama was not born in the United States, that he's some sort of secret socialist and secret Muslim who has a secret plan to destroy the United States, and they just really don't like him.
	And so they want somebody who's going to vent their fears, their frustrations, not someone who's for good government with policies.
	And that block is anywhere between 10 and maybe 25 percent.
	And in a divided field, that gives Donald Trump, if he speaks to these people, you know what he said, this outsized influence.
	And I don't think that block is going away.
	And Trump isn't going away.
	I agree, Trump isn't going away, but he's not going to get votes.
	I think his voters...
	You think he's not going to get votes?
	I think much less than he polls.
	He'll poll really well.
	I think he'll hang around 20 forever.
	But his voters are what they call low-information voters.
	That is, say, people who don't pay attention to politics.
	And this is a conservative party.
	And he is not a conservative.
	He's against entitlement reform.
	He's for a single-payer health care system.
	His ideology is not left-right.
	It's winners and losers.
	Yeah!
	I'm a winner and all those people that you don't like and you feel alienated by their bunch of losers.
	And so it's not a classic ideology.
	I think he'll get it because, for the reasons I said it earlier, for the same reason Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton are struggling, he's rising.
	He's at the moment where the country wants some sort of weird insurgency with a lot of ego.
	And that's him.
	And so he's at the moment of the times.
	But I don't think those people are going to show up.
	And he'll just hang around at 20% forever.
	But somebody will eventually beat him.
	Well, we keep talking about him every Friday.
	We'll see how long it lasts.
	He continues to be an incredibly gross human being.
	Wow.
	A gross human being?
	Yeah.
	He continues to be an incredibly gross human being.
	This guy's the Republican commentator?
	Well, is he really a Republican?
	Well, we all, everybody questions whether he is or not.
	I personally doubt it.
	You know, so the emails I receive, and whenever there's a positive article about Trump, always have this, and I just look for the line, if that line's in, I won't even read it.
	Of course, I wouldn't vote for him.
	That's one way.
	But of course, everything he says is crazy.
	That's another way.
	So there's these article after article, email after email.
	And I believe people really want to believe his message.
	Because it's such an American, yeah, F yeah.
	But they can't bear to actually say, yeah, I kind of like what he's saying.
	You know what I mean?
	It's just article after article.
	I think this is where Bill Maher actually hit the nail on the head.
	And these two guys, this is the latest meme, by the way.
	I picked it up not only with these two guys, but I also picked it up here and there.
	It's starting to bubble up in Fox.
	I can't say that I heard it on Fox, but it will be up, I'm sure, on Fox, which is Trump has tapped into this rigid 20%, the 20-25% make.
	This little group, but it's a group that's going to stick with him.
	And that's it.
	He's not going any higher or lower because this group is going to stick with him.
	That's it.
	So what you've done is you explained away all your bad punditry.
	You've been wrong about him all along.
	And now you're still wrong about him, but now you've got this new explanation, which makes sense.
	There's a 25% factor, and they're always going to vote for him.
	And once the party starts to coalesce and you don't have so many candidates, you know, the 7%, the 8% for this guy, and that guy starts to add up, it goes way beyond the 20.
	Trump stays at 20 no matter what happens.
	That is the latest and greatest punditry.
	Well, here's the latest that I got.
	I've got information, man!
	New shit has come to life!
	That's right.
	This is one of our producer connections.
	This one goes high up into the elites via drug dealers.
	So you know this information is good.
	The drug dealers always hang out with everybody.
	Right?
	The good ones.
	Yeah, the elite drug dealers.
	Yeah, the elite drug dealers.
	Here's the word, and I just want to get it in now.
	Word is, Hillary is out, announces she's out on Monday, tomorrow, Biden comes in.
	And if this is wrong, it's wrong.
	But I trust this source.
	Alright, I'm betting it's wrong.
	Okay.
	It just doesn't sound right.
	The timing's not good.
	Here, listen to...
	Let's see, this is CNN doing some analysis.
	Joe Biden's capabilities as a campaigner are generally excellent.
	He has that authenticity that is really being craved in this election cycle.
	He is, you know, Joe from Scranton.
	He appeals to the Joe six-pack character.
	I remember covering his race in 2007 and early 2008, and he is right, it didn't go beyond here in Iowa.
	But he did very well in retail political settings.
	Anderson, I'm told the calculus is this.
	Calculus?
	He is.
	He does not believe that he would not be able to put an organization together.
	He believes that he is a unique figure in the sense everyone knows who he is, and he believes he would have the money there for him.
	He's looking at a couple things.
	One, one of his friends told me that running for president might actually be somewhat therapeutic for him as he tries to get over this tragic, tragic loss of his money.
	Well, that's what we need.
	Well, the emails definitely are not going away.
	They are a real problem.
	And this next clip, which I think Whether this just is a media, let's get some more advertising, let's make it a horse race, let's make it closer, or if my source is correct, here's what the Morning Joe kid said.
	A lot of New York Democrats, blue, you would go, these are automatically Hillary backers, and they go, oh.
	Well, no, you know why they're frustrated?
	You talk to these people.
	I do.
	It's just, I have not found too many people at this point.
	I've got to tell you, the bigger problem is, now, she has some really tough defenders.
	I know.
	But I will tell you, by and large, most Democrats, powerful Democrats I talk to around dinner tables or lunch tables, are just like...
	They know the email scandal is going to get worse.
	They know there's more in the Clinton Foundation and they're exhausted.
	They basically said we've been exhausted.
	We've been doing this for 20 years with these Clintons and this is no way to start the case.
	These are around the dinner table, around the lunch table, powerful Democrats saying we just can't do this.
	Well, I'm not in disagreement with any of this.
	I just don't think that's the timing.
	I think you had better analysis when you thought that there was going to be a different kind of way, a more gruesome way of getting out of this.
	Oh, my next line was going to be, I think Bill should watch out.
	No, Bill's got to watch out.
	But if Hillary does what this guy predicts tomorrow, or even next weekend sometime, I'll give you that much leeway.
	Okay, you give me a week, thank you.
	I give you a whole week.
	That's enough time for the oyster.
	If that happens, then Bill's got it made.
	He's going to go, whew, fantastic.
	And Bill, you know, went golfing.
	He showed up.
	Supposedly they bumped into each other in Martha's Vineyard.
	Bill's there.
	And so they're golfing together.
	And you know what that was about.
	Who, Bill and Biden?
	Obama.
	Oh.
	Oh, yeah.
	That was, yeah.
	Yeah, so Bill's golfing.
	I can't even imagine he could swing a club.
	So Bill's golfing with Obama, and that's only about, you know, is there any way we can lay off Hillary?
	You know, he's all for her winning the presidency.
	Well, I think right now, and I was reading a very well-written article by Judge Andrew Napolitano, who wrote about the legality or illegality of the emails, and he's really combed through them, or at least what has been released.
	And he says that the only person stopping Hillary Clinton from being prosecuted is Obama.
	Now, I don't think he'll do anything because this would also then ultimately implicate him and the current administration in Benghazi.
	From what I understand, these emails are pretty clear about the weapons sales that Hillary Clinton was orchestrating.
	Well, let's look at it from another perspective.
	Okay.
	If Clinton was having a meeting with Obama, he may have been threatening him.
	Or he could have been begging for his life.
	Convict the bitch now, quick!
	I think he'd actually take a bullet.
	Take a bullet for the team.
	Bill or Obama?
	Bill.
	Not Obama, no way.
	No way, no.
	Bill.
	I think Bill would.
	And it doesn't have to be death.
	It can just be hospital.
	It could be a million things.
	But it's beside the point I'm trying to get to, which is that...
	He goes and says, look, we all know about, because Hillary told me about this, we all know about the kidnapping scheme.
	If this goes any further, this is going to come out and it's going to ruin your...
	So that's what Bill would be threatening.
	So to reiterate, we have this on pretty high authority.
	That it started in Tunisia, and the word went out in Tunisia.
	Wasn't it Tony the Terrorist who told us this?
	I don't remember.
	Yeah, Tony the Terrorist in San Francisco.
	The word had gone out, we need a kidnapping of the ambassador, and this was meant to be like an October surprise, and then Obama would swoop in and would save the ambassador, and that would be a shoo-in for the re-election, which of course he didn't really need, which is the sad part of it all.
	Right, because they got suckered by the media, and they continued assertions that this was a close race, which is the way the media does it, so they can get more money from campaign advertising.
	So they botched it.
	These guys were all jacked up, and they decided to go...
	Right, next door.
	Yeah, next door.
	So the whole thing was a mess.
	But the stuff they did to the ambassador, that has never really been properly reported.
	But they sodomized this guy with broomsticks, and they really did a number on him.
	None of that was ever properly reported.
	It's not really in the history books.
	Now, Obama, I don't know how this is going to turn out.
	I mean, they could drop the whole thing.
	We'll see.
	I mean, if they drop the whole thing, you know Clinton got to Obama.
	Yeah.
	On the golf course where nobody's listening.
	Although I can't believe nowadays that they don't have him.
	I think Bill, he'll take the bullet.
	This is coming way too soon for Hillary to off him.
	He can be serious, heart attack, anything.
	I want to remind you that we're the only show that would discuss anything like this seriously.
	Yeah.
	Because it's a real possibility.
	It's something that could actually happen.
	Well, we'll see if Hillary gives up the ghost.
	Even if they dropped this, they do still have the Clinton Foundation to deal with and all the money that comes in from the Saudis.
	But she has her war chest.
	She can be the kingmaker.
	She can give it if it's Elizabeth Warren.
	Here's the way I would see this playing out.
	Let's say she quits.
	In the next couple weeks.
	But I'm only giving you one week on this thing.
	Alright, one week.
	Thank you.
	Otherwise, I'm never buying my drugs from this guy again.
	You're going to have to complain back to him.
	It would go like this.
	She would drop out And stay mum, probably disappear for a week or two.
	And then O'Biden would come in and he would, you know, try to crank up a campaign.
	Warren would see the opportunity because she knows that, you know, this may have been planned or she was always hoping this would happen or maybe she was always clued in that this would be her cue.
	She comes in.
	And when she, because the Democrats have to elect the woman president, they've got to be the first.
	Everybody's in a big race.
	Yep, we got it.
	So she comes barreling in, and she, now there's a real race between her and Bernie Sanders, which is kind of the same person.
	In fact, there are some Bernie Sanders badges.
	I'll talk about this.
	Yes, I read your newsletter.
	Bernie, it says Sanders Warren.
	As I feel the burn.
	What, it says Sanders Warren?
	You saw these badges?
	Yeah, you can look it up on the internet.
	Oh!
	Okay, perfect.
	So there's that.
	But that is a dead ticket because they will not put two people from the same general vicinity as president and vice president with almost the exact same opinions of things.
	So she's going to come in and she's going to get into the fray And as she does, Clinton will throw her support behind Warren and give her all the money as opposed to giving it to Biden.
	Because as far as I know, Biden has never come out and endorsed Clinton.
	So he's already on there.
	But he would do that in a heartbeat if they're all going to get behind him.
	And Joe's controllable.
	They like Joe.
	And he's funny.
	He's also funny.
	He could go against Trump in a debate.
	That would be cool.
	There'd be like two East Coast guys.
	That would be the best debate ever.
	That would be good.
	It'll be Trump versus Warren.
	And Warren is really good on her feet.
	She could probably give Trump a run for his money.
	Biden!
	Sorry.
	I think she could beat Trump in a debate.
	Huh.
	Yeah, because he's too...
	Misogynistic.
	He'd say something shitty.
	I don't think he's misogynistic at all.
	No, it's perceived as.
	Yeah, too casual.
	Right, and he has the reputation.
	Anyway, we'll see what happens on Monday.
	I'm trusting my source.
	It seems to have gotten pretty bad.
	She has to stop.
	She has to get out of any kind of investigation as soon as possible.
	Oh, yeah, because it's going to threaten.
	Here's the real problem.
	It could threaten the Clinton Foundation.
	Oh, yeah.
	And that is a huge cash cow.
	And that's much more important.
	The global initiative and all the rest of it, it's all going to be under scrutiny if this continues.
	Can't have any of that.
	Anyway, my final clip, there was a smear song written, and it was playing all over the place in different kinds of...
	Left-wing websites.
	Some girl, she's like 12, she has a very unclear voice, and she sings this folk song about Trump.
	Have you heard this?
	No, I don't think so.
	I heard a different one.
	It's a piece of crap, but it's like you can see, oh yeah, ho ho ho, she put him in his place.
	Oh, God.
	Open chords.
	Dear Mr.
	Trump, stop being such a chump.
	You're embarrassing the nation.
	Time to take a long vacation.
	You don't explain positions fully.
	Your first instinct is to bully.
	You're a bit of a disgrace.
	Time to pull out of the race.
	Oh, yeah.
	Time to go, time to go.
	We've seen your show.
	It was fun at first, but now you...
	Wait a minute.
	You're telling me that there are websites that are actually promoting this crap?
	Yes!
	It's not even good.
	I think it was even on the Huffington Post.
	Oh, jeez.
	It's a video.
	She's kind of a cute little 15-year-old or whatever playing the guitar.
	And so it's kind of quaint.
	But it's this horrible song.
	She can't sing.
	She's flat.
	Anyway.
	Take it to the bridge.
	Bing, bing, bong, bong, bing, bing.
	Oh, no. no.
	time to go We've seen your show It was fun at first, but now you know Time to go, time to go We've seen your show It was fun at first, but now you know Oh, she said blow.
	That's hilarious.
	Let's put that on the HuffPo front page.
	Oh, please.
	All right.
	Well, you've got our information.
	We can only be as good as the information we receive or uncover or research.
	And Monday, we'll know more.
	But thank you for giving me a week.
	I think that's very fair.
	Yeah, that's more than fair.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you very much for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C, where the C stands for the Cadillac of podcast hosts, Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water.
	All the dames and knights out there.
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	Good to see you all there.
	We've got about a thousand people just on the stream.
	A lot of them in the chat room as well.
	Good to see you.
	In the morning to our artists, and thank you, No Agenda Racing.
	This is, I think, Sir Andrew Gardner, who brought us the artwork for episode 747.
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	So let's start by thanking a few executive producers.
	We have two of them and a few associate executive producers.
	We have three of them.
	Sir Patrick Seymour comes in at the top at 543.21 from Clayton, Ohio.
	And he says, ITM, gentlemen, I knew it was time to donate again when I was forced to sit through a campus police safety video covering how to deal with an active shooter.
	Ugh.
	More than once we heard the phrase, if you see something, say something.
	Hold on, let me play it for you.
	If you see something, say something.
	That's right.
	Apparently an active shooter may have only a knife, not a gun.
	That's an active shooter.
	Oh, okay.
	Also, that's according to the cops.
	Also, it's a good idea, according to the video, to disarm the shooter by throwing your backpack at them.
	Well, yeah, better than just cowering in place.
	So that's Sir Patrick of the Enormous Noggin.
	You might as well give him a Karma.
	I'm happy to do that.
	You've got Karma.
	We got David Young.
	He's this other associate executive producer from Tiburon over here in California.
	But he's an executive, not associate.
	He's an executive.
	I'm sorry, executive.
	That's what I said, didn't I? No.
	No, no, no.
	46639.
	He did have a note he emailed, and I will read it.
	Back office.
	The contribution today is the first to your show.
	While the culture of the show and the many donation options are many, example, double nickels on the dime, I decided that to dial in Honey For my first donation, and I hope to do more in the future, keep up the great work, David Young and Honeymoon Brands.
	He's actually a locally famous entrepreneur who does all kinds of little food startups.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, he does this Honeymoon Brand ice cream that is like Whole Foods carries it and all these.
	It's a very touchy-feely ice cream.
	Nice.
	Do you know him personally?
	I sent him a note saying I wanted to talk about ice cream flavors on the show.
	Yeah, that'd be great.
	Because one of the things...
	I know what he's doing.
	He's doing these very unique...
	There's a bunch of ice cream makers in the Bay Area that have cropped up.
	Oh, is this a new, like, douchebag thing?
	It's a new millennial thing.
	Now, he's older.
	So he's a passive of being a millennial, but he's in the swing of things with really a hot ice cream brand.
	But if you go up to College Avenue in Oakland, there must be six or seven vendors, and they've got lines going out the doors.
	Does he have kale ice cream?
	No, I don't think he has kale.
	But here's the ice cream.
	The best one, there's this one woman, I think it's not Mary, it's somebody, I can't think of her name, but she does these ice creams that are all wild.
	I don't think it's eucalyptus.
	Once she had Roos Bios.
	I'd love to have potpourri ice cream.
	You never know, she would do that.
	But the problem is she's such a hippie that the containers are made out of recycled cardboard and it's probably very expensive for that very reason.
	And it's extremely expensive ice cream.
	But she's got these great flavors.
	Now, my story about flavors, I don't understand why this one particular flavor...
	The closest anyone has ever come to it was when Swenson's was in business.
	There was an ice cream maker in the Bay Area, I think California, called Swenson's.
	And Swenson's had a orange chocolate chip, I think was the name of it.
	And it reminded me closely of the best ice cream I've ever had.
	It was so memorable, I still remember it from the 1970s.
	Only you would remember the best ice cream you've ever had.
	I was in Cower, France, lounging at one of the better restaurants, and this is where I discovered that women in southwest France commonly throw ice cubes in whatever wine they got in front of them.
	So it's not a big deal.
	But they had this orange-flavored dark chocolate ice cream.
	It was orange-flavored dark chocolate ice cream, very much like the Swenson's, only it didn't have all these stupid chocolate chips in it.
	And I never could figure out why they have to keep...
	Orange and chocolate is a great combination in the exact right proportions.
	So is orange and duck.
	Exactly.
	Orange and duck is quite good.
	Think of that as an ice cream.
	Probably prunes and chocolate would be too.
	But this ice cream was fantastic.
	Orange and chocolate is just fantastic, but they're going to, you know, even if this guy could tell by looking at his ice creams, he'd have big chunks of orange in it or something.
	Oh no, that's not good.
	Make the orange chocolate ice cream.
	No.
	Now, well, I don't want to get carried away, but there's another ice cream that I had that I thought was very impressive, which is there used to be a place called McCallum's, another famous, famous ice cream parlor in Berkeley.
	That the guys picked up their tent and moved out after the 89 earthquake.
	They just said, no, I'm not good.
	Don't want to die here.
	So they made a couple of different...
	They made probably one of the best pumpkin ice creams I've ever had, and I like pumpkin ice cream.
	But they made a licorice ice cream that was phenomenal.
	Oh, man.
	So on Halloween, you could have a scoop of pumpkin and a scoop of licorice.
	Dynamite.
	Hey, do you think...
	So our producer here, David Young, our executive producer, does he have stores in the Bay Area?
	Does he have stores all around the country?
	Where does he have these?
	No, it's all in California.
	Oh, can we have like a code word for a discount?
	Well, you're going to have to ask him.
	You go in and you say, Bill's a dead man.
	I don't think he runs stores.
	I didn't see any stores.
	I think it's mostly a retail.
	Oh, just a retail?
	A wholesale to retail.
	Well, here in Texas, we eat Blue Bell ice cream, which is pretty good.
	I've had Blue Bell.
	It's good.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's pretty good.
	It'll kill you.
	Yeah, we had a big recall.
	Yeah, Bluebell were out of the store for weeks.
	Oh, I remember Bluebells having a recall.
	Yeah, weeks for something.
	Yeah, they had Listeria or something.
	Yeah, something not bueno.
	No, once you do that, you might as well just shut up.
	Shut up, shut up, shutter.
	Yeah.
	Let me continue to thank you to these people.
	Sorry I did that.
	No, people love hearing about your life.
	I don't think that he's loved it that much.
	And here we go.
	Banonymous.
	Ah, we have a B. Well, I think he's already been Banonymous.
	Oh, right, right, right.
	Well, 22222 is his thing.
	He's in Sunnyvale over here.
	Uh...
	He says eliminate the location.
	Okay, well, whatever.
	The last few shows have been out.
	I guess if anybody around here is going to...
	I know there's a bananimous.
	He's in Sunnyvale.
	Let's go kill him.
	The last few shows have been outstanding.
	Let's go kick him in the shins.
	They're some of my favorites so far.
	Trump makes fantastic show material.
	Thank you for topping yourselves consistently as of late.
	That's us, the toppers.
	The toppers, I have been listening since 2009.
	I've made my way through college, and I credit the show for giving me a sharper, more analytical worldview.
	Nice.
	Thank you again.
	The No Agenda show is an excellent primer for how to analyze world affairs for any students out there.
	In celebration of Amy Goodman's twinner flub, can I get a Let's Get Social song plus a karma?
	Love, be anonymous.
	Okay, I think I have that cut down.
	Yeah, here we go.
	I'd love to do that for you.
	Let's get social.
	Let's get social.
	Let's get social!
	Let's get social media!
	Woo!
	Mary McCormick, everybody!
	Give it up, Mary McCoy!
	Woo!
	You've got karma.
	Hey, let me give David Young a dedouching since his first time.
	You've been dedouched.
	Crossed back over benonymous there.
	And as part of the random number theory, giving the exact same amount 22222 randomly is teenonymous.
	Or teenonymous, as he calls himself.
	Huh.
	Yeah, isn't that interesting?
	Yeah.
	That's what I say every time.
	Isn't that interesting?
	Yes.
	It's quite interesting.
	It's just dynamite time.
	And finally, last but not least, our associate executive producer, David Lane from Springfield, Missouri.
	$200.
	And he sends in this crazy note.
	In the morning, John and Adam.
	Thank you both for the...
	I say it's crazy because it was typed...
	I believe, yes.
	I'm pretty sure it's typed.
	Typed with a typewriter, and these only were out for a very few years.
	I remember them.
	It was a typewriter that typed cursive.
	So it's pretty much borderline unreadable.
	I mean, I can read cursive, but this is like eight point, which nobody could actually write in real life.
	Thank you both for the bi-weekly therapy sessions.
	You're welcome.
	I received a passing grade on comp...
	On the TJA Network Plus Exam the other day, I give all the credit to your Sunday tech news segments.
	Oh, yes.
	That is all I have to report from FEMA Region 7.
	Perfect.
	Would you please play the following?
	Oh.
	Woman saying that she is a rule follower, then followed by Adam clearing his throat to say bullshit.
	Yeah, that's not really me, but I'll take it.
	That's not you, but it sounds enough like you that that's what he thinks.
	I'm a rule follower, so if the rule is that we have to do it, then I'll do it.
	Bullshit!
	And a karma chaser, I'm sure that's okay.
	You've got karma.
	That concludes our Associate Executive Producer and Executive Producer segment and ice cream lecture for show 748.
	That's right.
	And one of my people will go to Dvorak.org slash NA because we do a show 749 coming up on Thursday.
	We need continued support.
	And we still have our Maya High Club.
	Is that still open?
	Yeah, it'll be open.
	We're just not going to be promoting it so much until show 767.
	Okay.
	Okay, good.
	I love the newsletter, John, although I have to say, your cat GIF at the end was hypnotic.
	I couldn't stop looking at that thing.
	I was going to caption it, but I just couldn't come up with anything.
	Caption it yourself.
	Yeah, it's just beautiful.
	These, of course, are official credits.
	They work just like Hollywood.
	They're just as valid.
	Unlike the douchebags in Hollywood, we will vouch for you if you need anyone to confirm that you are an actual executive or associate executive producer or any kind of producer.
	And we recommend putting that on your LinkedIn page.
	It does seem to get you a lot of views.
	PR Corner, thank you to Mike Cole, who has discovered that the.show domain, top-level domain, is now available.
	And he went ahead and registered noagenda.show for us.
	Oh, nice.
	We can actually have all of them.
	I think that can be picked up.
	That's a really good one.
	Yeah.
	We can move it over.
	So, noagenda.show, now forwarding to noagendashow.com.
	We appreciate that.
	And thank you very much to producer Ron, who is helping us with a well-known strategy.
	You know, we...
	Thank you.
	things.
	It reminds them of the program.
	It reminds them to support us.
	I mean, obviously we have.
	Vorak.org slash N. A.
	But without doubt, one of the most successful musical elements for recruitment has got to be the ISIS song.
	Donate to a No Agenda They give us shows week after week Donate to a No Agenda It's a show that's really unique Donate to a No Agenda Listen to John and Adam speak Donate to a No Agenda Science is turning into a clique You know, you could slow that down.
	It's borderline already, but if you slowed it down and just a touch more echo, it sounded like a Gregorian chant.
	Well, I want to mix it with the music and with the sword, shling, shling, but it's good.
	I liked it.
	And it works.
	We're going to have a lot of...
	A lot of people complain about it.
	Even though we've said it, we're not trying to hide anything.
	We're not slipping in.
	Oh, we went on FaceTime.
	We're not trying to trick anybody.
	We're just trying...
	Because we tell them...
	A lot of the stuff we do is so you'll remember the show.
	Well, and here's this.
	For good reason.
	Yes, when you hear this song, and you're thinking, oh, I must support ISIS. No, now you'll think, oh, I should support No Agenda instead of ISIS. Yes, No Agenda.
	And besides your financial contributions, you can always do the very important work of going out there and propagating the formula.
	The formula is this.
	We go out...
	We'll hear people in the mouth.
	Amen.
	Shut up, slaves!
	Shut up, slaves!
	Shut up!
	Dumb slaves.
	Shut up, slaves.
	All righty.
	Well, what else you got going on, Jean?
	Well, let's see what we got on the list.
	I just moved everything around now.
	Of course, I can't find anything.
	Oh, are you running your show on the stick today?
	Are you on the stick?
	No, here's what happened.
	Okay, I got one of the Intel computers.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	You called me back after the show on Thursday.
	Yeah.
	You texted me.
	Yes.
	You're like, Jean, never text me except newsletter.
	This is like a newsletter.
	Okay, I think I have to go check the newsletter.
	Then that's about it.
	Or you'll send me a two-hour documentary Saturday night at midnight about Project Bluebeam disclosure craziness.
	Like, oh, this is great.
	No!
	I'm prepping for the show, man.
	I have two hours to watch your conspiracy crap.
	I knew you'd give me grief about this.
	Who do you think you are?
	So he texts me after the show, and I'm in decompression mode.
	I'm chilling.
	I've smoked my joint.
	I've drank my whiskey.
	He's like, yeah, get back on the show.
	Get back on the Skype.
	I was watching some of this crazy aliens attacking stuff.
	And my favorite one was this guy.
	There was apparently before, I guess, was it the one that crashed?
	It was Columbia or Challenger.
	The one that came into the atmosphere.
	Challenger.
	Oh.
	Not the one that blew up on takeoff.
	I don't know which one.
	So everyone said, oh, it was attacked by aliens.
	There's some movie of the thing in space, I guess, is all shot up by something.
	And the guy is showing this video and he says, a lot of other guys, you know, they do Photoshop to phony these things up, but I'm looking at this, I think it's legit.
	And then he says, I only have one problem with it.
	And so he goes into a deconstruction of the spaceship or the space shuttle and space all shot up.
	And he says, when it was taking off on the left-hand side, it said it had the flag in the United States and then there was no NASA logo, but this phony one or this one that's in this movie or this video has got the logo on it.
	He says, I think that's kind of a problem, but except for that, I think it's legit.
	And I'm thinking, except for that, that's the main clue that it's a fake.
	Right.
	Well, you know, I'm kind of on board with the project Bluebeam, which is that we are going to be introduced to our overlord alien visitors, just like V, and then we'll all be very compliant.
	Wasn't that supposed to happen in 2012?
	No, 2020.
	2030, I think.
	Oh, okay.
	Who knows?
	Anyway, so John says, get on the Skypes.
	This is pretty much like, to me, it's like...
	Selling wine.
	This wine, I bought this wine.
	It's terrible, store clerk.
	It's the worst thing I've ever had.
	Oh, no, no.
	Just give it some...
	It needs age.
	It needs age.
	About five years from now, it's going to be dynamite.
	Can I move on now?
	Somehow, all you've taken, you've had ice cream, wine.
	What next?
	So, okay.
	So John says, get on the Skypes.
	And he says, how do I sound?
	I said, you know, yeah.
	It didn't sound like that.
	That I sound.
	And you were running it on this computer stick.
	A computer on a stick.
	Explain.
	Okay, so Intel's got a bunch of these little machines that they make.
	They have the NUC, which is, I think, a wonderful little unit.
	And then they brought the compute stick, but they never wanted me to get one.
	I don't know why, but I got a new guy over there that sent me one.
	So he sends me the compute stick.
	It's $150.
	It's an Atom-based computer, and it actually works.
	And so I hooked it up to the entire podcasting rig, and it worked fine.
	And the problem with it is the following.
	I mean, in terms of just having a little cheap computer that you can plug into an HDMI port, and it has 1920 by 1080p output, it's a dynamite little product.
	And it's cheap, relatively cheap.
	I think somebody else makes cheaper ones, but it's similar.
	So I wanted to know if you could use it as a podcasting rig.
	So I looked it up and it seemed that it sounded good.
	Now here's what happened since then why I'm not using it today.
	Okay, because we agreed.
	I said, let's test it on the show.
	Yes.
	And you're not testing it on the show.
	Right.
	What happened was it has a little input.
	For an additional memory.
	It has like 32 gigs or something in it.
	It's got a lot of memory for the stick, but it doesn't have enough to use day-to-day with word processing and Photoshop for sure.
	So I stuck some more memory in it, and I tested it on Skype, and it was breaking up a little bit.
	The extra memory in there, I think, was...
	I don't know why someone...
	Oh, maybe it was bad.
	Chip-level engineering could tell me.
	Memory.
	I think it was...
	It had to deal with this extra memory.
	It was losing cycles when it came to using Skype.
	And so instead of fooling around anymore with it...
	Another thing...
	Another problem with it, by the way...
	I think there's a problem with a lot of these little small boxes.
	It said if you plug a standalone hard disk into, in other words, a hard disk that uses USB power, because the things only have like 10 watts total, it just shuts down.
	Oh, it can't handle it.
	It can't handle it.
	But if you have, I think, a plug-in disk drive, like a big...
	I think in general these computers on a stick are not quite ready for prime time.
	I have the Amazon Fire Stick, and sometimes it has trouble processing to get the video out, and it's jerking around a bit, particularly with a lot of motion.
	Well, I have very little trouble with the Roku box, and I think this compute stick from Intel is actually pretty good, and I think if I hadn't upgraded it, I think we could have used it today, but I decided not to.
	Onward, then.
	Onward.
	Yes.
	Grease.
	I have a couple of things.
	Oh, I was going to say Grease.
	I decided that, again, I'm doing this study of the three networks.
	Oh, yes.
	Now, you were going to do this for three weeks.
	You're going to watch the three networks.
	Two, three, and one.
	Do three.
	Make it threes, man.
	Three networks, three weeks.
	Three networks, three weeks.
	There you go.
	I got it.
	Three networks, three weeks.
	John Dvorak, three networks, three weeks.
	Three networks, three weeks.
	Three networks, three weeks.
	So I was listening to Richard Engel, who's on NBC. Oh, the liar?
	You mean the award-winning liar?
	Liar.
	Liar.
	And he's reporting.
	This is the report that's worth listening to anyway.
	And I started noticing he has a cadence.
	And then I ended up going to another guy who gave a report, and he has a cadence.
	And I think I figured out.
	And I think many NBC field reporters have a cadence that sounds like somebody, reminds me of somebody, but play the Richard Engel clip first.
	27 years ago, Saddam Hussein murdered 5,000 Kurds with mustard gas and other chemical weapons.
	This time, they're allegedly victims of terrorists.
	U.S. officials say this is not a red-line moment, and it's unlikely to significantly change U.S. policy.
	The U.S. is already bombing ISIS. But the use of chemical weapons does change the dynamics on the battlefield.
	The Kurds don't have gas masks.
	They may need them, as ISIS is apparently willing to use any weapon it can.
	Lester?
	NBC's Richard Engel tonight.
	Thanks.
	Up next, we'll tell you more about a monster change in the forecast.
	The monster change in the forecast is the next.
	You're not ending your clips well, man.
	You've got to edit the clip.
	No, that ending goes to the next clip.
	Okay.
	So I know the cadence.
	I recognize it immediately.
	Yeah, it's kind of a cadence, but there's another cadence that's a little more extreme.
	Engel has got the foreign affairs guy, and I don't like his cadence, by the way.
	And this mustard gas thing story is bogus.
	Like raping hostages and throwing mustard gas.
	So here's the NBC reporter sounds like clip.
	Before you go, I've got, I'm pretty sure, now I don't have the best example of this guy who I think they're all trying to sound like, but I've got the guy in here.
	Almaguer has our report.
	It rolled in with fury.
	This Las Vegas monsoon wreaking havoc.
	Lightning sparking fires.
	Torrential rain triggering flooding.
	A fast-moving summer storm.
	Hi, Billy!
	The Big City Slider Station.
	The fast and easy way to press and cook delicious sliders.
	Those restaurant mini-burgers everyone loves.
	That's it.
	That's the cadence.
	Yeah.
	That's it, like this guy.
	Wake up!
	I demand you break your conditioning!
	Yeah, that's Richard Angel.
	Now listen, you didn't let the thing finish because they have a...
	No, I'll finish.
	...or squishing and squashing, or flipping and flopping.
	With a slider station, just scoop, press, and cook right on your stove.
	That could be a preview of what's to come this winter.
	El Nino is definitely a double-bladed sword.
	It will provide drought relief, but it also provides an awful lot of mayhem and damage.
	NASA climatologist Bill Patzer says...
	Okay, that's good.
	Anyway, I'm telling you, it's that guy, Billy whatever his name was.
	And he sells the what?
	Well, in that case, this is not the best example of him.
	Billy Mays.
	Oh, right.
	He's dead.
	He's dead, yeah.
	But there's a couple other guys, and they're usually all Australian.
	And that's what this guy sounds like.
	And I was like, why does this guy sound so familiar?
	And it's Billy Mays.
	NBC has got a bunch of Billy Mays.
	They're all selling such stuff.
	Hmm.
	Well, there's cadence.
	Every channel has their cadence, and this is the NBC cadence.
	And these things creep in, in an organization you don't even really realize.
	Should we play that again?
	Richard Engel, just one more time.
	27 years ago, Saddam Hussein murdered 5,000 Kurds with mustard gas and other chemical weapons.
	I mean, it's just like scum, Nazi filth, trash, garbage maggots.
	There's always a job for Richard Engel in Austin.
	No problem.
	He would fit right in.
	Okay, Greece.
	So, everyone's reporting, oh, we have a bailout deal.
	We have a bailout deal.
	We do not have a bailout deal.
	Nothing has been signed up.
	Well, I've got the bailout deal report if you want to play it.
	I'd love to, because we do not have a bailout deal, and there's something very important that is missing from the bailout deal.
	After you play this, I think this is a funny clip.
	Eurozone finance ministers met in Brussels today and gave final approval to a third bailout for Greece.
	Hours earlier, after an all-night debate, the Greek Parliament backed the draft agreement, despite a rebellion by members of the ruling party.
	The deal requires new cuts in public spending and tax hikes in exchange for $93 billion over the next three years.
	That's what they agreed to, more slavery.
	I got the biggest kick out of that because it goes like this.
	You give them a bailout, and then you give them these conditions, say bailout number one, and you've got to tax more and you've got to spend less.
	And they do that and go into the tank, and then they say, okay, okay, we're going to try this.
	We're going to try something new.
	Here's another bailout.
	You've got to tax even more than you taxed before and spend even less than you spent before, and that may do it.
	And then they go completely broke.
	And so they come back with a third thing, the same thing?
	No, no, no.
	Then they go completely broke.
	Then the Germans take all the assets which are sitting in the KFW Bank, all the pink slips, for the infrastructure, and that's the whole point.
	They're not going to give them anything.
	You're saying that this is just the Greeks stealing, just ripping the Greeks off.
	Yes, and the clue to this, this bailout does not include the International Monetary Fund.
	They are not a part of this deal.
	Which means the EU, not the Eurozone, but the EU will be on the hook.
	They will be guarantors for this so-called bailout loan.
	Of course, they won't be able to succeed in all of the new austerity measures.
	And it's just intended for Germany to take all their stuff.
	The IMF said, we need debt relief.
	And Merkel and Schauble said, no, no, nein, nein.
	We're going to take their stuff.
	They're bicycles.
	And the deal has not officially been signed yet, but Fifi Lagarde says, I'm not in.
	So the Troika, there's a fracture in the Troika.
	This could be interesting for Portugal, for Italy, for Spain.
	So things are happening.
	At the same time, Greece is being just deluged with We're good to go.
	With hundreds of refugees arriving in COS every day, the new initiative aims to help prevent recent recurring clashes with the police.
	The problem will be solved when the European Union understands there's a war in Syria and in other countries there are major economic problems, said the local mayor.
	And if they don't find a solution for those countries to end the problems, then we'll always have immigration problems in Europe.
	These people are queuing to get into a stadium on the island, which is also acting as a reception center.
	You gotta see a reception.
	Hello, visitors!
	Come to the reception center.
	Yes, come into our camps.
	There to keep people out from hurting you, kind of.
	They're trying to obtain papers to enable them to move around within Greece and elsewhere.
	For me, I just want to complete my study.
	I just want to have life.
	And everybody wants like that, because they all ran out from the war, from death.
	So it's normal to see all these things, because everybody just wants to live.
	Damaged dinghies and flotation devices regularly wash up on the beaches of Coz, providing further signs of the increased pressure cash-strapped grease is under.
	Oh, man.
	I always get the sense, this is just a gut thing, Yeah.
	Us rebelizing North Africa and the Middle East is responsible for this, and we're doing it on purpose.
	And we're doing a damn good job.
	This is clippity-clop Lady MacDeth Clinton, who was so happy when we killed Gaddafi.
	So, I mean, that is the land of unconfirmed.
	Yes, we came, we saw, we died.
	We killed him!
	We killed him!
	Go vote for her!
	And it's funny that actually the video of that really is disgusting.
	Yeah, because Uma, Uma leans in, leans in, goes, shows her the Blackberry.
	He's dead!
	Oh, yes!
	But we have, and the EU is now, they're trying to cut deals amongst everyone in the zone, saying, look, you know, you gotta take some of these visitors and Italy is Lampedusa.
	Thousands and thousands of people.
	They're rolling up in dinghies.
	They're dying.
	Ships are capsizing.
	200 people in the hold.
	Oops, sorry, you're dead.
	Now, at the Eurotunnel, the tunnel between France...
	Now, this is another interesting point.
	Tell a story about it.
	What's happening is you have all these...
	One of the world's worst security breaches.
	Well, it's getting worse.
	So at Calais in France, this is where there's thousands of visitors who are trying to get into the UK and they're hanging under the undercarriage of trucks.
	They're getting in freezer trucks and freezing to death.
	They're trying to walk the whole thing.
	Walk the whole thing.
	And now the mayor of Calais Kelly, they're saying, hey, someone's got to come in or I'm just going to open the border and screw y'all.
	Let them all go to the UK. Which I think...
	Oh, they didn't know this.
	Yeah, this is new.
	Well, this is good.
	I don't blame him.
	I think he says, you're my fool, screw them!
	Yeah, and of course you can't blame him.
	What is he supposed to do?
	I mean, the guy, yeah, it's a disaster.
	And yeah, they're trying to walk the thing.
	These guys are pouring into England as best they can.
	There was a special on Newsnight, and they had some guy from the UK Independent Party showing the reporter, bitchin' a moanin'.
	Showing the reporter where these guys are hiding and they're all over the place.
	They're over by the freeway and if there's a backup they jump into lorries.
	They get into London and it's just like a nightmare and they can't seem to do anything about it.
	What can you do?
	Get a big ship and bring them all back to Tunisia?
	You know, this is...
	I'm going to have to agree with your assertion that this is...
	We did this on purpose.
	Give that crap to the EU. Hey, you know, that's time for us to play...
	We need to play...
	What's her name?
	What's her name?
	Hillary.
	No, Victoria Nuland.
	What do you think?
	Oh, not that one.
	It would be...
	Yeah, Victoria Nuland.
	Yeah, actually, this is what...
	This is what she said.
	While I'm driving off laughing, this is what I'll say.
	Fuck the EU.
	Oh, exactly.
	Fuck the EU.
	That's right.
	And that is our entire stance.
	And that's what we're doing.
	Just what she said.
	Good job.
	Congratulations, John.
	And the EU seems pretty...
	I don't know.
	I think there must be idiots.
	What can I say?
	Yeah.
	Alright, so I've got another.
	Since we talked about this earlier, something like a similar chat earlier in the show.
	Again, I think this is again with ABC. This is a David Muir ABC old story leverage report.
	This is again ABC, which I think is probably the most corrupt of the networks.
	Especially ABC News, who have news directors married to insiders in the Obama administration.
	There's a lot of crossover there.
	I think I'll catch a lot of native ads, and I think they use leverage, which means if you're not advertising with us, you're going to get blasted.
	Oh, yeah.
	Because this, to me, is a hit job, and this is an old story.
	Now, none of the other networks are doing this story.
	Okay, so let me understand.
	You picked up a story which was so obvious that That it was an old story, it was brought back, and you identified the native advertising, which is the raison d'etre, that it was brought back.
	No, this was not native advertising.
	This was a hit job.
	And I would say this was one of those leveraged things where it's like, you know, you guys stopped advertising with us.
	So we're going to dredge up old stories and embarrass you.
	And maybe we'll do them every once in a while.
	Unless, you know, you guys want to get on board.
	Honestly, because this is done.
	This is a natural thing for publishers to do.
	And allow me to explain.
	It works both ways.
	MTV, when Michael Jackson had a new video and before MTV Networks owned black entertainment television, BET was getting the world planetary exclusive galaxy premieres.
	And we would say, well, listen, we'll make up an award.
	We'll call it the Michael Jackson Vanguard Video of the Year Award.
	We'll give the first one to you.
	We'll give you a prime spot opening the Video Music Awards.
	And, you know, so you give us the planetary premiere.
	And, oh, yeah, Sony will throw in that piece of crap video that no one wants to play into the buzz bin.
	It's where we put all the hot stuff.
	Play it in three in the morning.
	Yeah, so that's how it works.
	And it works, of course.
	More recently, the leveraging of the publisher against the advertisers has been lessened, especially in print publishing, because the advertisers just all bailed out and you couldn't make them come back.
	So they call the show.
	We're always bad in an era, which I think we're in this era.
	ABC's apparently not in it, but most people are in the era where the advertisers push their, throw their weight around.
	Get anything they want.
	Give us an ad right next to an article that's very favorable to us.
	Mm-hmm.
	We'll advertise more.
	And that, I believe, is the era we're in, and that's the bad era.
	Turn to stunning new information tonight about a British Airways flight bound for the U.S. last spring.
	The pilots suddenly feeling disoriented, putting on their oxygen masks for an emergency landing.
	And tonight, the explanation now.
	Here's ABC's David Curley.
	A mystery at 34,000 feet.
	Pilots on board a British Airways Boeing 777 flying to Seattle having difficulty concentrating, and they're carrying 235 people on board.
	From the start, the pilots notice low airflow from the vents and an unusually warm cockpit.
	At cruising altitude, concern grows as they encounter headaches, nausea, lightheadedness, and a lack of concentration.
	Let's get on 100% oxygen immediately and then we can troubleshoot the problem.
	They did this just like reading out of the textbook.
	With no problems in the passenger cabin, the cockpit door, normally locked for security, is opened to help cool the instruments and ventilate the cockpit.
	The crew dons oxygen mask and the decision is made to return to London.
	In the end, it turned out it was simply trash and old wires blocking a duct and restricting the airflow.
	The problem is, this is the third time it's happened on the plane.
	The airline says it's taken action to make sure it doesn't happen again.
	David, David Curley with us tonight.
	David, thank you.
	Okay, so was this a slam at British Airways or at Boeing?
	BA, right?
	It would be Boeing.
	Yeah, Boeing.
	Because it's trash.
	Boeing's got nothing to do with that.
	Trash.
	There was trash.
	This is the story.
	I read the story different, but okay, trash.
	This is an old, old...
	McDonald's wrappers are in there.
	They could have gotten native advertising from McDonald's on the story.
	They could have.
	Trash and old wires were blocking the vent, and this is the third time this has happened.
	What is the image you come away with?
	British Airlines, they don't even own a broom up here.
	It reminds me of when we did the Hot Pockets tour with Mustang Sally and it was overheating going through the Rockies.
	Maybe you have to turn on the heat and open the windows to get up the hill.
	Yeah.
	That's what Boeing has now become.
	And you had to open the door.
	An overheating jalopy.
	Anyway, I was convinced.
	Because this came out of the blue.
	There was no reason for this story.
	That's good.
	I like it.
	And you had a second one.
	Is this the native advertising you want to do with David Muir?
	That's the one we did.
	That's the one that had the...
	Oh, we had that one.
	Right, right.
	I'm sorry.
	Yes, we had that one.
	Very good.
	So I'm good.
	All right.
	A little update on Planned Parenthood.
	I keep following this.
	They've now released a sixth video.
	But the story is so cold by now, no one cares.
	Luckily, though, there's one guy out there who I have respect for him doing this, and he continues to do it, and he takes it one step further.
	Of course, this is the genesis of Planned Parenthood, which we discuss on the show a long time ago.
	We've never really done anything about it.
	We haven't discussed Planned Parenthood.
	We don't really care about it, I don't think, too much.
	Oh, we had the big thing in Texas.
	And we did discuss it then.
	No, you did a good job on some of the phony baloney misdirection of the Texas stuff.
	Oh, that's right.
	There was a lot of misdirection.
	And the Hobby Lobby.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Well, this is ongoing, of course.
	The genesis of the company is Margaret Sanger, who was a founding member of the Eugenic Society, I'm going to say.
	Was it Eugenic Society?
	Eh, probably.
	And they were very specific about not having the black man impregnate the white woman.
	All this kind of stuff.
	And there's only one guy out there who will still recount this history, and he's a Republican candidate.
	His name is Dr.
	Ben Carson.
	Maybe I'm not objective when it comes to Planned Parenthood, but I know who Margaret Sanger is.
	And I know that she believed in eugenics and that she was not particularly enamored with black people.
	Put it lightly.
	And one of the reasons that you find most of their clinics in black neighborhoods is so that you can find a way to control that population.
	And I think people should go back and read about Margaret Sanger, who founded this place.
	A woman who Hillary Clinton, by the way, says that she admires.
	Look and see what many people in Nazi Germany thought about her.
	That she was for targeting certain races.
	A great person.
	Thank you, Dr.
	Ben Carson.
	The Nazis loved Planned Parenthood.
	Especially Margaret.
	Oh, yes.
	Well, the whole eugenics thing which was invented in the United States was adopted by the Nazis.
	Yeah.
	And they were suppressed after that because they got a bad reputation.
	That's where Mengele came from.
	Yeah.
	And he got a bad reputation.
	It kind of resurged again in the...
	In the late 60s and 70s with Dr.
	Ehrlich, who is still around, now is promoting global warming, which again is a methodology.
	It's all to cut down on the population.
	He wrote the Zero Population Growth material.
	And he also had a book right after that called The Race Bomb.
	And now he's got something.
	His name still crops up in regards to global warming and how we have to stop...
	Growing our population because people...
	Well, it seems to me if we have global warming coming up, which is going to kill a lot of people, wouldn't he be all in?
	This is good.
	This controls the population?
	Well, here's the point that you don't know you're missing, but you are, which is since it's bull crap, it's not going to control the population.
	And he wants to control the population.
	Gotcha.
	So you don't want...
	The global warming thing is just a ruse It's the things you want to implement that will slow down population growth.
	And this also leads to the crackpot theories, which even I've propagated, during the early 70s, where in Maryland, at Fort Detrick, they invented a number of coincidental diseases that were going to target Africa, then kill off the Kill off the Africans.
	And I think the Africans have always been kind of aware of this.
	I remember in the 70s, and you can still look at these old books about population control that were done in the early 70s, and they'd always cite Africa as having too many babies.
	They're overpopulating.
	And even when Bill Gates brings up his thing about vaccinations, he says you'll have less kids if everyone's healthy.
	Which is currently the real goal, is to slow down this reproduction cycle.
	It seems to be working.
	And it seems to be continuing, even though we're still having more people on the planet.
	And most of the real students of population in today's world see it as a thing that plateaus naturally.
	And not to worry.
	You know, we can still stuff everybody in the whole world into the state of Texas.
	That's okay.
	You know, I hear Oklahoma is nice.
	Don't bring them over here, okay?
	I got a couple of emails, which I'm going to read now.
	We were discussing the circadian rhythm, this platitude of drugs that are coming out, specifically targeting this disorder.
	Have you seen them now?
	I have not seen them.
	Unfortunately, when I'm doing these studies, I've got to stop on one of these studies of the three networks for three months.
	That's all right, three by three.
	And look at the ads.
	Yeah, do that.
	I got an email from Kevin, one of our blind listeners.
	I want to send you a quick note regarding your discussion about blind people and circadian rhythm disorder.
	The term used is non-24.
	That's the term we have to be on the lookout for, John.
	Non-24.
	As a blind person, I've had this issue ever since childhood.
	What happens is your circadian rhythm free runs.
	Instead of a cycle, your body clock readjusts itself at random.
	Due to the fact that the brain is not getting proper input it needs from light sources in order to regulate the body clock, I spent sleepless night after sleepless night reading books, listening to no agenda, of course, and being a zombified dead man during the day.
	Most of us try and regulate using melatonin in order to maintain a normative sleep-wake schedule.
	As you said, the meds being advertised could be nothing more than a scam or a means of repurposing another medication whose patent is about to run out.
	I didn't check the patents, but I understand this is for the...
	Service-based slave culture we're creating where people are working crazy hours, crazy shifts.
	You're inside.
	You have no natural light.
	And yeah, it's ruining people's lives.
	We're not meant to do this as humans.
	As someone who's worked shift to work, Meaning I work a week of graveyard, a week of swing shift, and a week of regular day for a little over two years.
	And where was this?
	At the Union Oil Refinery in Rodeo.
	If you work at an oil refinery, you have to work shift work.
	I don't know why.
	Sure, well there's lots of jobs that have that, sure.
	Yeah, there's a lot of shift work jobs.
	It's not that big of a deal.
	No, but in the United States of Gitmo Nation, we love our drugs.
	So if we don't feel good, there's a pill for that.
	And if it's good enough for blind people, hello.
	It's good enough for me.
	I think the argument that you don't have all these cues, because the brain is always looking, what is it?
	I know it's just when you have longer days, you don't eat until you eat later.
	There's all these visual cues.
	Yeah, I can see the blind people have to have a horrible time of that because of that.
	And I'm seeing some alternative theories to the air conditioning level war on men, where women, of course, are just being...
	Treated so poorly by men in offices, keeping it just way too cold for them.
	And I think we've probably talked about this on the show, but women, particularly in the United States, and the question as to why is this happening, and there's lots of answers, I'm sure, close to 60 million Americans, mostly women, have hypothyroidism.
	And the thyroid really isn't discussed a lot.
	I don't think.
	But it really is the director of your systems.
	And if your thyroid is off, this results in anxiety, irritability, achiness, muscle weakness, fatigue, weight loss fluctuations, hair loss, carpal tunnel syndrome, temperature sensitivity, constipation.
	You think it might be for a new drug coming out?
	You know, we've been waiting to find out what is going on with these studies.
	They do seem to be like a setup.
	And there's good thyroid drugs.
	Thyrex, you can get...
	Well, I'm sure the compounded stuff is going away.
	You can't have that anymore.
	You can't have natural compounded things.
	We followed that for a couple of years.
	But there may be something to this hypothyroid.
	A lot of women have it.
	Well, if they didn't have it before, they'll have it now.
	Precisely.
	Alright, well I got a couple things here that's off the wall.
	So, Abbi, the Japanese guy.
	Japanese dude.
	So he comes out to do his supposed, it's another anniversary or something, and he's going to like...
	Well, it was 70, first we had 70 years of North Korea, of Korea, when they defeated the Japanese, and that's why the Koreans went back to their old original time zone a half hour before South Korea.
	And we also had the end of the war.
	And I will note that not a single U.S. president ever, I don't believe any U.S. dignitary of note, has ever been to Nagasaki or Hiroshima to apologize, or even been there as far as I know, just to say, hey, wow, man, that's sad.
	Well, everybody's not apologizing.
	So Abhi is taking not apologizing to a new level.
	In Japan, the prime minister today acknowledged the pain his country inflicted during World War II. But he stopped short of making a fresh apology.
	Shinzo Abe's statement marks seven decades since Japan surrendered to Allied forces in 1945.
	On the 70th anniversary of the war, I bow my head deeply before the souls of all those who perished both at home and abroad.
	I express my feelings of profound grief and my eternal sincere condolences.
	Over 80% of the population were born after the war.
	These generations and those in the future who have nothing to do with the war should not have to continue apologizing.
	Resentment toward Japan's wartime action still runs high in South Korea and China.
	The Chinese state news agency dismissed Abe's statement today as a tuned-down apology.
	Reports out of Israel say police...
	So Abe comes out and says the future generation should not continue to apologize.
	No one's ever apologized.
	No.
	They've never apologized for the Manchurian situation.
	Where they cut off women's breasts and stuff.
	The worst imaginable atrocities.
	The rape of Nanking.
	And they've never apologized to the Koreans for anything they've ever done to them.
	And so now, according to Abe, they shouldn't continue not apologizing.
	Ugh.
	What is the big deal?
	Are they going to lose so much face?
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	It's all about face.
	Of course, with those guys.
	Yeah.
	It's beyond me.
	No, they don't like doing that.
	I'm seeing...
	Well, we've been following the war on cash for a long time.
	Was it Louisiana?
	You'll recall Louisiana wanted to do a complete ban on cash, even at garage sales.
	Yeah, that didn't get very far.
	Well, they have a new version.
	What is it?
	RS-37-1866.
	And it still has a line in here that it will be illegal.
	I don't know if it's passed, but I'm sure it'll pass.
	It will be illegal to exchange cash dollars for gold or any precious metals.
	What?
	Yeah, in Louisiana.
	Yeah.
	You will be able to buy a lawnmower with cash at a garage sale, but you will not be allowed to exchange cash, dollars, for gold or any other...
	This is a good question.
	This, of course, reminds us of the 1930s when FDR banned all ownership of gold.
	Well, he made it illegal to own gold.
	To own gold.
	Yeah, well, that's...
	Yeah, you had to dump it.
	You had to give it to the government and get the script.
	Yeah.
	The people who didn't do that, by the way, which was a violation of the law, and they stored the gold.
	They're rich, beyond their wildest dreams.
	Yeah, they're rich.
	Gold became worth a fortune.
	So, I've looked at some economic discussion of this.
	When you have, what we have is pretty much zero interest, right?
	Banks pay nothing.
	There's just no interest on cash, on borrowing money.
	On them borrowing from the government.
	Yeah, from the government.
	Yeah.
	Does this not eventually mean that cash in the system becomes a problem?
	Well, how?
	Well, this is what I'm asking you.
	I'm reading things that, well, the reason this is being done is because...
	Somehow having the money...
	I'm asking you, I don't understand.
	That having the cash in the system, it has to get out.
	And that we actually don't have a lot of cash running through our system.
	Like cash money.
	Well, we have a lot.
	It's called the money supply.
	I think our initial thesis on this is more accurate than any of these economic explanations.
	It's just purely about control.
	It's easier to control a populace that doesn't have cash that they can spend freely.
	And if you have everything done on a card, you can track everybody's purchase, where they are, what they're doing, and you can stop them.
	You could cut off their money supply with the push of a button.
	When you're not following the rules.
	Yeah.
	That makes more sense to me.
	Even though it sounds nuts.
	What else would you...
	And it's also expensive.
	I mean, they have to print these bills every few years.
	They've got to collect them.
	There's a whole system in place.
	Yeah, whatever happened to Hillary on the 20th?
	Whatever happened to that story?
	I miss those good stories.
	Well, first, they decided it was...
	I think they kind of stopped because they realized that it's Hamilton...
	Who's on the 20 now?
	No, they want to take Hamilton off.
	Hamilton off, yeah.
	I believe.
	Oh, I thought it was...
	Who's on the 20?
	That's Jackson.
	I haven't seen the 20 in a long time, so...
	I got Washington's.
	Franklin's?
	I got Washington's.
	Washies, baby.
	I got Washies.
	I'm waiting for the big head Washington bill.
	Where is it?
	AT&T has been under scrutiny, thanks to Laura Poitras, James Risen, Henrik Moltke, Jeff Larson, Charlie Savage, Julia Anguin.
	Big article in the New York Times.
	Oh, a shocker!
	AT&T helped the NSA eavesdrop on American citizens.
	And we've talked about this since 2008.
	2008.
	The big building in San Francisco.
	It's not.
	Well, it's news because apparently some Snowden document came out detailing how AT&T was in partnership with the NSA. In fact, one document reminds NSA officials to be very polite when visiting the AT&T facilities, noting that, quote, this is a partnership, not a contractual relationship.
	It's a partnership.
	So they weren't even...
	That's why it was news.
	Yeah, there was a partnership.
	Duh.
	Along with Verizon, actually.
	And who was it?
	Who was the Silent Wind guy or Big Sale?
	Was it Benny?
	Who was the guy that popped the whole story on that secret room in the building on 2nd Street in San Francisco?
	I don't know if it was Benny or one of the other guys.
	It was one of the guys.
	They paid dearly.
	Yeah.
	Why is this not big news?
	Geez.
	I don't know.
	So that was, I guess, their big breakthrough.
	Have you been looking at The Intercept at all?
	I think they've got some stories now.
	They're too long.
	Oh yeah, they need an editor.
	They're too long.
	They are too long.
	Or do a TLDR at the beginning.
	Something.
	Help us with something.
	It's crap.
	This should graduate their news coverage.
	They should have a little thing at the beginning saying, this article is 3,000 words long.
	At the 1,500 word mark, we'll put in marker, and then you don't really have to read anymore.
	Or just a TLDR at the top.
	AT&T are douchebags.
	They help the NSA in a partnership.
	The articles need abstracts.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	There you go.
	Yeah.
	Abstractive article.
	Really does.
	Really does.
	So they can get there like a 200 word abstract and then you don't have to read it at all.
	Yes, they're too long.
	All right.
	I got another thing.
	All right.
	So I'm watching the Today Show, which is loaded with...
	Bullcrap.
	Bullcrap.
	I can see why it is the...
	It's the traditional morning show that people watch, but it's of the three shows on right now.
	And you're doing three by three?
	Well, this is what I'm not doing.
	I'm just doing this casually.
	This is similar, but not the same as the news hour or news half hour.
	The three networks have these different Good Morning America, which is ABC, which is the showbiz news.
	This might as well be like extra.
	They should start off.
	They might as well have Mario Lopez as one of the hosts.
	And now, back to real news.
	Yes?
	And then there's the morning show on CBS, which I think is the best of the three.
	It's got Oprah's girlfriend, Charlie Rose, and a very pretty woman.
	I can't remember her name.
	Yeah, Gail.
	No, Gail is Oprah's girlfriend.
	Yeah, I know what you mean.
	Milfie girl.
	She's very attractive.
	And they do really outstanding roundtables.
	There's a lot of native ads and stuff like that in there too, but it's not as annoying as it is on NBC. So here we have an NBC segment where Al Roker...
	This is kind of a long clip, but I'm going to set it up when you stop when you feel like it.
	But Al Roker's decided...
	I don't even know if he decided or somebody made him do this.
	Somehow Al Roker's supposedly a cook now.
	Now that he's lost 300 pounds, he's a cook.
	So he is going to show you how to do your own homemade, done at home, mac rib sandwich.
	Oh, brother.
	Which is a McDonald's item that is an option.
	They go into a long, large thing about McDonald's, brings them on and off.
	But wait a minute, didn't they just hire the Michelle Obama chef as the, and he's going to be the executive food analyst, the senior food analyst on the network?
	Maybe, but he's not on this show that I can see.
	Okay.
	So they have Al.
	And anyone who likes to cook and likes to watch cooking shows, that would be me.
	You can tell within just a few seconds if the person that is presenting can cook at all.
	Right.
	You know, they can't handle things right.
	They don't know how to cut.
	They don't know how to touch things.
	They don't know how to stir.
	It's a big scam.
	They're just reading and playing along.
	And this is Al.
	He doesn't know what he's doing.
	Bring light to make the ultimate sandwich, the McDonald's McRib.
	You know, a lot of times it's either on a limited menu or your McDonald's has to decide to put it on the menu.
	Well, now I'm going to show you how you can make your own.
	Is this a call out to get everyone to go to McDonald's and say we want the McRib sandwich?
	Well, what you just pointed out, it makes it kind of interesting because at the very end, and actually during this, They blow...
	I know there were paid plugs all through this thing.
	They blow them up, and at the very end, they just completely screw up the bit.
	They're getting made goods from everybody.
	This is three minutes.
	Yeah, you can...
	No, I'm saying it's three minutes of...
	Of plugs.
	I've never had this at first for me.
	Okay, so this is the deal.
	For people who love it...
	And this is how it goes, by the way.
	Here's the meeting.
	We've got a bye here, and we need to do this segment on the McRib.
	Al, Al, you can do this, right?
	Yeah, we'll have Al do it.
	Al's always good with a little color in the show.
	So let's have Al do it.
	He's perfect.
	Al, you cook, don't you?
	I'm a great cook.
	I'm a cook.
	I'm a cook.
	Yeah, no, they're a foil.
	Yeah, no, yeah, no.
	A pound and a half, two pounds of pork shoulder.
	You're going to have sugar, water, some salt.
	This is Hunt's, no, Heinz's.
	Heinz Hunt.
	Is it?
	Pinaka, which is it?
	Hunt.
	It is Hunt's barbecue sauce.
	Original barbecue sauce.
	This is the closest.
	Hoagie roll, onions, and beautiful pickles.
	So you're going to chop this up.
	You're going to put it in the food processor.
	Cube it.
	Okay?
	Then you're going to take some salt, some sugar, and some water.
	Whoa!
	Sugar.
	And you're going to put it in the food processor.
	All right.
	Pork shoulder, right?
	So it's pork shoulder.
	Oh, anyway, you get the idea.
	There you go.
	And I'm going to pulse it, and you're going to grind it up until it gets into these nice little...
	And you'll form these into four balls.
	It'll make four patties, okay?
	How do you make the McRib shape?
	Basically, you make the McRib shape by just pressing it down flat.
	You'll get it into a rough shape.
	Okay, right here you go.
	All right?
	What?
	So he's got the...
	He says balls, and then he has...
	He's got a gob of this stuff, and there's one in front of the gob that's perfectly shaped, and he's trying to shape his in the same shape.
	And it's sticking to his fingers.
	It's just like he doesn't know what the hell to do.
	So he's pounding on it, so he skips it, kind of gives up on his own little thing, and then he takes the other one, which has already been preformed, and he starts to make it into this, you know, he takes a chopstick and makes little lines in it.
	Anyway, play on it.
	And then what you're going to do, because if you remember, if you ever had the McRib, it actually is like a boneless rib patty.
	So there's no bone in the McRib.
	There's no bone in it.
	There's no meat in it either, probably.
	Little indentations so that they're like little mini riblets, okay?
	Oh, riblets.
	You put that, take those.
	Put it on a sheet with parchment paper, and you're going to put this in the freezer until it's frozen.
	Just so it kind of firms up.
	Alright, so we've got one already here.
	Alright, he keeps saying alright and okay.
	Yeah, which is not, it's not all right.
	And it probably doesn't look so okay.
	No.
	Now you're going to heat a pan.
	All right.
	You can take those out whenever you're ready.
	If you cook out or whatever, just take them out whenever you're ready.
	Put them in a nice nonstick pan.
	I don't know what the real one tastes like, but this is amazing.
	You're going to brown them on each side.
	All right.
	Then you're going to take them.
	All right.
	And you're going to put them in the oven, bake them for a little bit.
	But first you're going to put some barbecue sauce on them as you put it in the oven.
	Okay.
	Let me guess.
	And then you have your patty.
	Okay, alright.
	In the meantime, you're browning your hoagie roll.
	Take your hoagie roll.
	You put the patty on top.
	Now, very important.
	Pickles and raw onion.
	Very important.
	And that's pretty much it.
	You can spoon on a little more sauce if you'd like.
	Oh!
	Sauce!
	And gentlemen, you have your homemade McRib.
	And to get the recipe, you go to today.com slash food.
	Kick on Restaurant Review, Ted.
	And that, my friends...
	This is so good!
	Exactly.
	It's awesome, huh?
	It's so good!
	I mean, look...
	You can't get the McDonald fries with this.
	Why?
	Because you can't make them at home.
	We should extend the redo week and you do fries.
	Can you get a shake?
	I'll fries with that.
	Thank you.
	I'll work on that.
	But in the meantime, Janelle Monae, artist from Wonderland, hitting the stage one more time for the hit song, Classic Man, right after these messages.
	I don't think I would ever want a real one after this.
	What a bunch of idiots.
	I don't think I'd want a real one after this.
	Not after this.
	There's a whole deal down the drain.
	I've got to tell you.
	People watching this, and I hold you in very high regard, John.
	But you sit through this crap.
	Your brain must hurt.
	Doesn't it?
	I'm laughing too hard.
	No, but the people that watch this...
	There was an interesting report, which is not something we don't know, but it's always good to reiterate.
	At first glance, the mishaps of a person falling while using their cell phone can be funny, but the number of injuries and even fatalities associated with the app.
	Oh, God, not this story.
	Yeah, I love this story.
	I didn't clip it.
	I love the story.
	I just thought it was kind of macabre.
	It's good.
	There's no laughing matter.
	They're pretty much strapped to them 24 hours a day.
	According to the recently released Governor's Highway Safety Association, since 2009, there has been a 15% increase in pedestrian deaths.
	The most recent full data recorded is from 2013, where there were more than 4,700 deaths, equaling to one pedestrian killed in the U.S. every two hours.
	Outstanding!
	This is great!
	Oh, I thought you were taking it to the next level.
	Well, what'd you think?
	It's not done, but tell me.
	Oh, no, the guy who got killed running under a roller coaster to get his phone.
	Wasn't that great?
	That's a great story.
	And he got decapitated.
	Just his head taken off.
	I gotta have my phone.
	My phone, my phone.
	What is it?
	Nomophobia is the term?
	No, I never heard this.
	Nomophobia?
	Yeah, no-mobile-phobia.
	The phobia of not having a mobile phone.
	Psychiatrists are saying it's real.
	DSM-5, baby.
	Nomophobia.
	Just leave my phone at home.
	I do.
	I regularly, when I'm walking around Austin, and it's tempting, but I turn my phone off.
	I just walk through the street, but I don't go that far.
	I go down to Second and Lavaca, and I go to the Spin Studio.
	And I just see all these women filing into the spin studio, and all their necks are cramped down, they're all looking at their phones.
	Why?
	What is so important?
	Are they surgeons waiting for a call?
	I have done some investigative research for you.
	I'm glad you asked.
	The number one application used by phone zombies in the streets of Austin, Texas, is Instagram.
	And this is something that's really beyond me.
	I... I mean, I think it's gotten to the point where the only thing we care about for our impulse to give us that Pavlovian response, but also to participate in the system, we don't even need words anymore.
	Because when you post a picture to Instagram, I think you can do just a caption pretty much.
	I don't know if you can do more than that.
	Most people don't.
	No, no, you can write a lecture.
	Oh, you can?
	Well, they don't do it.
	Some do.
	It's just a picture that tells a thousand words.
	And then all the feedback comes in.
	Oh, that's such a nice birdie.
	That lunch looks great.
	Congratulations.
	I hope you had fun.
	So sad.
	R.I.P. Rip, rip, rip.
	Oh, yes.
	My heart goes out to you.
	You're in my prayers.
	Our family loves you.
	Instagram is considered right now to be the most important of the social networks owned by Facebook, which is probably the wisest decision they ever made.
	I agree.
	Even though there's no advertising.
	We talked about this at the dinner table.
	And what's interesting is that if you take a look at Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram as the big three, Instagram is the most modern.
	Just by accident, I don't think anyone really thought this out very thoroughly, but when you start looking at how it works compared to, like, Twitter...
	Twitter is like a bunch of people yakking in every which way and every direction.
	It's not very well focused.
	With Instagram, you focus on your picture.
	You take a picture of something, your dinner, your maid, your dog, your cat, and you post it with maybe a note, maybe not.
	So it's always a captioned photo as opposed to just a straight-up photo, which you could do on Twitter.
	And then the action that follows the photos being posted is singular to that photo.
	It doesn't get mixed up with other messages.
	It's very...
	It's just that.
	It's like a standalone whole skit.
	And it's there with all the little comments.
	With Twitter, you can kind of...
	Yeah, it gets strewn out.
	It's strewn out.
	It's different.
	It's a different...
	And even with Facebook, because I'm using it more and more to understand it better, sounds like a good excuse, doesn't it?
	If you reshare, this is a mistake they're making, if you reshare a post, then the comments go only on your reshare and not on the original, which I think is also a mistake.
	Yeah.
	Then everything's also split up.
	Whatever.
	But my point being, the zombification is here.
	And just do it.
	Just walk around.
	Just pay attention to people.
	And I think this is where little mini air horn comes in handy.
	Just once in a while, just right next to somebody.
	Make them jump.
	They would, too.
	Well, I never thought of grilling people.
	They're always wandering around, looking at the phone.
	There's all this cool stuff around you.
	Yeah.
	But they'd rather see a picture of someone's puppy.
	No, food.
	Lunch.
	Or lunch.
	Yeah, a lot of food.
	Or how cute your kid is.
	My kid is so cute.
	Look, my kid ate these.
	My lunch is so good.
	My kid is so cute.
	Yeah, I can see where people get depressed.
	Now, do you think that the next generation of human resources will make it worse, or will they rebel?
	We're already seeing the millennials going back to the 80s, like in vinyl, or is that just transitory?
	You think that's just the...
	I think it's...
	The millennials are the ones who...
	We rarely talk on the cell phone or the mobile phone.
	They are always texting.
	They're the ones who promote the idea of text.
	If you start texting, you can't call.
	It's like a rule.
	And if you violate the rule, you text, text, text, back and forth, back and forth, and that's the confusion reigns, and so somebody decides to give up, and they call, they have violated the rules of texting.
	I will also say, I made a call the other day.
	I rarely make calls.
	Man, it's so shit.
	The quality of cell phone calls is just diminished.
	I mean, it's better to make, oh, I don't know, FaceTime, a FaceTime call with someone over the data than it is to use the actual GSM networks.
	It's crap.
	It's terrible.
	The quality stinks.
	The old pin drop commercial's dead.
	I used landlines.
	I do actually have a Bakelite phone, but it's up north.
	Alright.
	It's got a dial on it.
	Dials don't work.
	As a callback to Breakfast at Tiffany's, do you remember the gift they go and try to buy for $10 at Tiffany's?
	Oh, no.
	A sterling silver phone dialer.
	Oh, was it a phone dialer?
	Yeah, you remember those?
	Yeah, you stick your finger in the thing so you don't...
	Yeah, it was like a glorified pencil.
	People used to dial the phone with a pencil, with the eraser end of the pencil.
	Yeah.
	Good times.
	Yeah, I think that's true.
	I barely remember.
	This program is brought to you by the producers of the No Agenda Show.
	That is people like you.
	Instead of NPR or PBS or any other government-controlled public media around the world, we actually do things you want.
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	Exactly.
	D.H. Slammer starts off the list here with $105, which is actually what he claims to be two of the simultaneous Mile High Clubs for himself and Dame Bang Bang.
	Doesn't she already have a lifetime membership?
	The Mile High Club?
	I don't know.
	You better ask her.
	Some anonymous from somewhere, California, comes in with $100.
	And this one, what does it even say?
	Shecky Bahuda?
	It's shaky.
	Oh, right.
	Shaky Behuda.
	Shaky.
	Shaky Green.
	Shaky Behuda.
	I'm a long-time...
	He's wrote a note, and since it's handwritten, I thought I'd read it.
	I'm a long-time douchebag, more of a douche nozzle, if you ask me.
	I have finally gotten around to donating.
	Please don't de-douche me.
	Save it for someone more deserving or less fortunate than I. And he says, why are there no ho-hos and yo-hoos?
	Yoo-hoos.
	No ho-hoos and yoo-hoos when you do the nights.
	Well, maybe if you got a knighthood, you could add that.
	Yeah, you can add it.
	Wouldn't hurt.
	Paul Webb in Twickenham, Middlesex, 69-69.
	Nicholas Samaras in Earliesville, Virginia.
	These are both birthday people, 60-07.
	Yeah, got them.
	Charles Ackley in Point Pleasant Beach, New Jersey.
	Another birthday.
	5678.
	Sean Doherty in Overland Park, Kansas.
	5432.
	Gary Owens in Lost Wages, Nevada.
	And these are 5280s.
	These are Mile High Clubs.
	Mile High Clubs.
	When do we have the webpage, John?
	The full webpage.
	I'm working on it now.
	I should have something before the next show.
	But before Thursday, there'll be a webpage with almost everybody's name on it.
	I'm writing it down.
	Okay, and you can call me out on it right after I call you out on the Hillary prediction.
	Although I'll give you another extra day after that.
	Okay.
	Where was I? John Dollar.
	Gary Owens in Los Wages.
	Eric...
	Vessel Dyke.
	Vessel Dyke in Burlington, North Dakota.
	John Helmar in Shawnee, Kansas.
	Kevin McLaughlin in Locust, North Carolina.
	Nice name for a town.
	Sir Thomas Nussbaum in Michigan Beach.
	Virginia is always around.
	Sir Richard Leiter in Lincoln, Nebraska.
	Nick...
	Johannes in Pryor Lake, Minnesota.
	Nuts.
	Chris Novak in Sparks, Nevada.
	Armando Guerra.
	There he is, our mail carrier here in Austin.
	I miss you.
	He's now a member of the Mile High Club.
	He's in Bee Cave, Texas.
	That's what those mail guys do.
	Daniel Rudin.
	We had this guy who was a UPS, not a UPS, a UPS parcel.
	Great looking guy.
	Still works there.
	Great looking guy.
	Years and years, about 10 years ago when he was just a...
	Let me guess.
	Was he servicing the clientele?
	It would be so funny because he, you know, he, I was like, he'd show up at eight.
	Howdy, man!
	How you doing?
	Just a wreck.
	The hot shorts on?
	He didn't wear the shorts.
	He didn't need them.
	Daniel Rudin, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, 5280.
	He also had a story once about how he was offered a job at Webvan, but he thought he'd keep this job instead.
	Good choice.
	It was.
	Eric Mankiewicz in...
	I think it's Makarowicz.
	Makarowicz, okay, in...
	Where is this?
	Socorro, New Mexico?
	Yeah, 5280.
	William Branick in Calgary, Ontario, where all the money used to be.
	Sir Daniel Foster in Maynardville.
	Maynardville, Tennessee.
	Oliver Reich in South San Francisco.
	I can actually see South San Francisco from here.
	Aaron Huber in Patak Tikva.
	Israel.
	Israel.
	Good.
	Nish.
	This looks like...
	No, no.
	Nico DeHaan.
	Nico DeHaan is our martial arts knight.
	We stayed with him on one of the Hot Pockets tours.
	Dutch guy.
	Martial arts.
	He could F you up in a second.
	Probably.
	Thank you, Nico.
	In Florida.
	Greg Gunther.
	In Folsom, California.
	Jason McKinney in Sugar Land, Texas.
	Which I think is a great name for a town.
	Priscilla Carey in Baldwinsville, New York.
	Gary Howell in Houston, Texas.
	Brian, a lot of people in the Mile High Club.
	Brian Watson, Sir Brian Watson, if I'm not mistaken, in Raleigh, North Carolina, 5280.
	Sir Trevor Baxter in Aurora, Indiana.
	I'm sorry.
	For Brian Watson, a quick note here.
	Mile High Club for Ken, my grandfather, who died of old age tonight.
	He will love you for that, man.
	He will love you for that.
	Jason Peterson in Austin, Texas.
	Francis Thomas Hockey.
	Isn't it funny?
	No, it's not funny.
	Isn't it remarkable?
	I caught myself.
	That on Instagram...
	That's right.
	That's right.
	You know, I'm sorry I have not been able to catch you.
	No, I'm sorry.
	I'm catching myself.
	The healing has begun.
	I'm catching myself.
	It's remarkable that on Facebook and Instagram, when someone dies, like, oh, rip, R.I.P. We're sorry.
	Oh, my heart go out to you.
	It'll find a place.
	Don't worry.
	It'll all be good.
	You're in our prayers.
	You're in our thoughts.
	So sad.
	And in no agenda show, it's like, fuckers mile high club.
	Yeah, live it up.
	Well, that's a New Orleans attitude.
	That's the difference.
	You know, they have a celebration.
	That's right.
	That's the difference.
	You should run the pet peeve, or you're going to have to if you keep bitching about this.
	I'll do it.
	Celebrate.
	Celebrate Mile High.
	I think everyone who dies who listens to the show should automatically become a posthumous member of the Mile High Club.
	Benjamin Ritgers in Ames, Iowa.
	Larry Stewart in Norman, Oklahoma.
	Matthew Hastert in, I don't know, Bowls somewhere.
	How do you pronounce it?
	Bowlsberg?
	I'd say Bowlsberg.
	Yeah, Bowlsberg.
	Bowlsberg, Pennsylvania nuts.
	Tyler Sandberg in Gearing, Nebraska.
	Maxime...
	Béland.
	Béland.
	Oh, Béland.
	Oh, that's right.
	She's in Quebec.
	Laval, Quebec.
	It could be a he.
	Maxime could be a he.
	Maxime could be.
	That's true.
	Thai, Aul.
	Aul?
	Aulville.
	Get a knighthood and name yourself something else.
	Anthony Bullock in Seddon, Victoria.
	André Klaus in Den Haag.
	Excellent.
	I've been there.
	Yes.
	I went to miniature world.
	Maduro Damme.
	Yeah.
	And then here's...
	Wow.
	And now we have another Dutchman.
	Right in the row.
	You can do this.
	Jeregen Timmer.
	Swedish chef on board.
	No.
	Jeroen Timmer.
	Jeroen Timmer.
	In?
	In Weggensborgen.
	Wachenborgen.
	Wachenborgen.
	Have we talked about this in the Second World War?
	No.
	Okay, if you've never watched Soldier of Orange, this is a great movie.
	If you can read the book, it's even better, but it's a great movie.
	And to test, if you were a spy, only the Dutch can say the ch sound.
	Even the Germans can't say it, so they would have them say schefeningen.
	Schefeningen.
	You'd be shot on sight.
	I would be.
	I'd be a dead man.
	Yes.
	Oh, well.
	And then the next one is from Belgium.
	Which is similar.
	Yeah.
	Back up Dutch people, in case you run out of Dutch.
	Tjardik van der Kroon.
	Tjardik van der Kroon.
	Tjardik van der Kroon in Juppit.
	I think it's Juppille.
	Juppille in Liege.
	Liege.
	Liege.
	And that's it.
	That's our Mile High Club.
	Yeah, there you go.
	It finished off kind of interesting with another random number example.
	5150 is Ryan Kessler out of Raleigh, North Carolina.
	Peter McConnell, 5011, parts unknown.
	And the following, and last but not least, are the group of people that came with 50 bucks.
	Most of them come in by checks or their automatic payers.
	Amitav Hajra in Daleville, Virginia.
	John Camp in Antlers, Oklahoma.
	I just love the name of that town.
	It's second only to Gnawbone, Indiana.
	Jason Zeisler in Renner, South Dakota.
	Simon Horn in Manly, Queensland, Australia.
	Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas.
	Chris Slowinski.
	Sir.
	Sir Chris Slowinski in Sherwood Park, Alberta.
	Patrick Thomas in Petworth, West Sussex, UK. Thank you, UK. John Haller in Missoula, Montana.
	Dame Melody Mann in Ringo, Louisiana.
	Why is she lit up here?
	Usually means there's a note.
	Or it came in as a check, maybe?
	It came in as a check, yes.
	Sir Mark Tanner, who comes in often from Whittier, California, closes it.
	It's really funny because we get a lot of these.
	Is it funny?
	Should I be laughing hysterically at how funny this is?
	Yeah, you should, but you weren't.
	Because it's not funny.
	So you've got me saying it instead.
	That's how you do this.
	It's not funny.
	You push it over to the other guy.
	That's right.
	Take it.
	Anyway, I want to thank all these folks for helping us out, and especially the members of the Mile High Club.
	I don't know what's going to happen when they fall off.
	It reminds you to go to Dvork.org slash N-A. Yes, and I wanted to give a quick little karma shout-out to Jared Hall.
	His wife is pregnant with the third child after having just recently had a miscarriage.
	So any karma you can send our way may result in this baby being named after you or John.
	Oh!
	Here you go!
	That's a double dose.
	Just remember who did that for you.
	Can you imagine a girl named Adam?
	That would suck so bad.
	I asked for the double dose.
	Yeah, I'm sure you did.
	All right, thank you all very much.
	A special, lots of thanks to everyone under the $50 level, which is mainly done for purposes of anonymity.
	And, of course, we have all of our monthly subscribers, our weeklies.
	We've got 10-10s, 11-11s, 12-12s, 33-33s.
	We really appreciate all of it.
	Thank you so much.
	Dvorak.org slash N-A-G. And we say happy birthday to William LaRock, comes from Nicholas Samaras.
	William turns 32, or turned 32 on the 14th.
	Paul Webb celebrating today.
	Nick Johannes says happy birthday to his hetero life mate, Kent Anderson, celebrating tomorrow.
	And finally, Charles Ackley says happy birthday to his girlfriend, Natasha, turning 28 years old on August the 19th.
	Happy birthday from your Uncle Adam and Uncle John.
	It's your birthday, yeah.
	No nightings.
	Zero nightings.
	We do have David Colby.
	Oh, wait.
	What is this?
	No, this is a black knight.
	What is this?
	This is something else.
	What's going on here?
	We got a couple things here.
	I got one.
	I got David Colby.
	He becomes a black knight?
	What about Nicholas and Charles?
	They're all lit up.
	No.
	They're all lit up.
	They're all jacked up, man.
	They're all lit up.
	No.
	This must be a make good.
	I don't think there's a make good on there.
	Well, it says Sir David Colby, Black Knight.
	I recall an email, John.
	Okay, well, just knight him.
	Does he have a special title he wants?
	Well, yeah, it's Sir David Colby, Black Knight.
	Okay, thank you.
	I got the sword, luckily.
	All right, David Colby, come on by, sir.
	It looks like we screwed it up.
	I think we screwed it up on the previous episode.
	So we are very proud to have you join the roundtable of the Knights and the Dames, and I hereby pronounce the KD.
	Sir David Colby, Black Knight of the Noah's dinner roundtable.
	For you, my friend, we have Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Shibari and Fat Rooster Craft Beer, Chief Wine and Chili Dogs.
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	And of course, the mutton and mead is always available.
	It's so easy to make, which is why we have it on tap.
	And thank you very much for supporting the best podcast in the universe.
	Go to noagendanation.com slash rings.
	It was a big article interviewing Jarl Mon.
	You know Jarl?
	Yeah.
	He is the CEO of National Public Radio, also known as Lee Masters, everybody.
	And he used to be my boss at MTV. Yeah, you like talking about him.
	He's a good guy.
	In fact, I'm going to be on a panel.
	I've been invited to New York.
	Syracuse University has a media school, which is pretty famous.
	What is it called?
	The Syracuse Media School.
	I don't think it's called that.
	Syracuse.
	Yeah, it's...
	What is it?
	Sorry, named after something.
	It's like Walter Cronkite or something.
	Let me see.
	Communications.
	Dan Rather Media School.
	Let's look it up for a second.
	It is the, yeah, Newhouse.
	Newhouse School of Public Communications.
	Oh, Newhouse.
	The family.
	Is that not famous?
	Yeah, Newhouse.
	The guy's on USA Today used to.
	Right.
	But I'm going to be in a panel, and I will be representing podcasting.
	Go podcasting!
	Go podcasting!
	Yarl, who I will, I guarantee I will consistently say Lee to him just to piss him off.
	You know, we've got Lee Masters up here.
	Yarl, his name is Yarl.
	And who can pronounce that?
	Yarl Mon.
	But anyway, I, and I said, I committed, I said, I'll.
	Sarah Palin and just ask if you can just call him Joe.
	Okay.
	Thanks for the callback to eight years ago.
	It's fine.
	I don't care.
	But I said, can I have an honorary degree?
	If I do this?
	Yes.
	And?
	Yeah, no.
	No.
	No, I can't have that.
	Oh, you have to be a big donor.
	But he...
	Yeah.
	But in this interview...
	He has a couple of interesting quotes here.
	The question is...
	You know, I pulled that stunt once.
	What stunt?
	I was trying to get a...
	Well, I had a book for a speech in Kentucky at some event.
	I don't know if it was a government event or what.
	But I had heard, like, a couple months earlier, Stuart Alsop had been granted a Kentucky colonelship.
	Nice!
	And so I said, you know, I'll do this, but I want to become a Kentucky colonel.
	And the guy says, I can do that.
	What's a word you want to hear?
	I can do that.
	And so I got one.
	I got a certificate.
	And they send me, every once in a while I get something in the mail telling me to pipe.
	Could you put that in the newsletter?
	Could you put your Kentucky colonelship in the newsletter with a picture of you wearing your sash?
	They never sent me.
	You have to buy the sash.
	If I still have the sash I'm sending you, I could wear that one.
	So, isn't there a sash waiting in my P.O. box?
	It's sitting on the table here.
	Send it off already.
	I have chicks who want to model it for us, for the newsletter.
	Okay, okay.
	So this interview is with Current.org.
	When I was prepping for this interview, I came across a prediction that Vivian Schiller had made when she was NPR's CEO. This is the woman who said, advertising is down.
	Whatever you want to call it.
	She said, internet radio would be replacing terrestrial radio within 10 years.
	We're now 5 years into that decade.
	What's your prediction about the future of terrestrial versus internet radio?
	And here's Jarl Mon.
	This is going to be so easy when I'm on this panel.
	Quote, Broadcast radio is the cockroach of media.
	What?
	Let me finish the quote.
	Broadcast radio is the cockroach of media.
	You can't kill it.
	You can't make it go away.
	It just gets stronger and more resilient.
	Yeah, no.
	Yeah, no.
	Please.
	He really thinks that?
	That's a terrible analogy.
	They have a big problem trying to flow this money back in because people are just getting the podcast.
	Well, you know what it is.
	They were living high on the hog.
	Yeah, because they had that $200 million endowment that one year and they just went, woo, whatever.
	Yeah, they were just getting money from everywhere and it was just rolling in.
	And now they have to live like a normal radio operation.
	Which is crap.
	It's right above shoveling elephant poop.
	And quit show business?
	Hey, everybody!
	All right.
	This is a cyber season.
	Wait a minute, you haven't finished.
	You want to hear the rest of it?
	I just want to know what you're going to be doing up there.
	You're just going to be talking about cockroaches?
	Yes.
	It's about the future of broadcast media, in particular radio.
	Is this a major event where there's a lot of panels and you're on one of them?
	No, it is one specific event, one day, one time only.
	I will give you more details as they trickle in.
	But I've been confirmed to be on the panel.
	And who else is going to be on the panel?
	This is important.
	Well, Jarl.
	You want me to dig up the email?
	I can find it pretty quickly.
	I want to know who's going to be on this panel, if I should make a trip out there.
	Oh, don't threaten that.
	Stop.
	I'll tell you who's on the...
	Please.
	Here we go.
	We have...
	Let me get the whole list here.
	How many people are on the panel?
	I don't like big panels.
	I don't like panels at all.
	We have Edward J. Gorham.
	He's from Syracuse.
	He may be the moderator.
	No, Douglas H. Quinn, I think, is the moderator.
	Then we have Andrew Moss from SiriusXM.
	We have Dion Levingston from MS Broadcasting.
	This is all radio.
	We have Genevieve something or other from PRX, which is the public radio exchange.
	And then we have Sandy Smallins from Spotify.
	Okay, so we have one internet music operation, which is very interesting.
	Well, I think they'll probably be talking about how they are now adding podcasts and netcasts.
	Oh, by the way, kiss that person's ass.
	Okay, done.
	Sandy Smallins, I don't know what gender you are, but your ass is about to get moist.
	Yeah, you should do that.
	And so we have that, and then a real podcaster, the man who invented it.
	And I'm going to have my award, and I'm going to hold it over my head and go, Go podcasting!
	And then you're going to have a satellite radio, which is alien to the rest of real broadcasting.
	Correct.
	And then you have one or two broadcasters that are antenna-based.
	Yeah.
	And Jarl.
	Right, who's antenna-based.
	He's riding the cockroach.
	Hey, Lee, how's that riding the cockroach going for you?
	They have antenna-based and internet-based leaning toward antenna.
	I can't wait.
	Hey, did you hear...
	You must have seen the story because it was in...
	Was it Los Angeles?
	And at first I thought, oh, what a nice story.
	This is kind of cool.
	These shadow balls...
	You heard about the shadow balls?
	Yeah, the millions of balls they dropped into the reservoir.
	Yeah, they dropped these 96 million balls, chemically treated balls, were dropped into the Silmar Reservoir.
	Yeah.
	It's cheaper than buying a big cover.
	Yeah, and I thought at first, this is, you know, what a cute idea.
	This woman who did it, you know, she mortgages her house and it's a great success story.
	However, now I'm reading that this is probably going to poison the population of Los Angeles because the UV rays are actually very important to the health of the water.
	UV, you don't want to stop the UV because it actually kills off bacteria.
	Well, this is going to depend on whether the water gets treated before it gets to the population.
	And who knows what the balls are treated with?
	Ah, the balls are fine.
	They get plastics nowadays that can do this without causing problems.
	What I would do, if they ran it through an ozone treatment, that would be the way to go.
	That's the stuff that does the best job of cleaning up water without making it taste like crap.
	Well, they did the balls thing, so we'll see.
	Well, since you're on that, I get to go back to another stupid story.
	Okay.
	This wasn't stupid.
	The population of Los Angeles could be in dire...
	Oh, they only drink bottled water down there.
	Okay.
	They just use that water for their lawns and pools.
	Now, so I'm watching the Today Show.
	So now they have another segment.
	This is not part of your 3x3.
	You're doing a lot of this.
	Well, I just happen to...
	Do we need to have a dead man switch system where if you get sucked in and you can't pull yourself out, that, you know, if we don't get a message every 24 hours...
	You'll get a message.
	Okay, we know to come and...
	All the police.
	He's stuck.
	He's stuck.
	So they have this dingbat girl who goes out in the field, and she just doesn't know what she is.
	She's not very bright.
	And they send her to some town, Garden City or something in Baltimore, and she's going to go.
	And it's all native advertising.
	Suggesting is to get you a life alert.
	Yeah, well, that's why I don't go to the chatroom, because they're a bunch of ages a-holes.
	Correct.
	So she goes to Baltimore, and this segment that follows, and she didn't even have to bring any of this up, by the way, but she's just so, it's just ridiculous.
	So now she's plugging some crab place to get the blue crab, you know, and she's going to go in there and crack a few of them.
	But she has to reveal to us While raving about these crabs, that she's allergic to shellfish.
	With all that winning, I'd worked up quite an appetite.
	And summer isn't summer in Maryland without tasting the blue crab bounty of the Chesapeake Bay.
	So we hopped on over to Blue Crab House in Raw Bar, where owner Cole Towson showed me the ropes of crab picking.
	To pick like the pros, Cole says you need the right tools.
	A mallet, a picking knife, and in my case, rubber gloves.
	Thanks to an unfortunate shellfish out.
	So you can just snap.
	Oh!
	See, there you go.
	That's hot.
	And despite not being able to indulge in the fruits of my labor, my picking skills had me feeling like a local.
	Sort of.
	There's nothing in mine.
	It's because you pulled it on.
	What?
	What is...
	No wonder we're turning into brain-dead zombies.
	Now, the line at the end is the only reason I kept it clear.
	Yeah, mine is empty.
	Yeah, mine is empty.
	And his retort is, that's because you've pulled it out already.
	And then she goes, you gotta play that little bit at the end.
	And then she goes, oh, like she was like, this is a discovery.
	Oh, I get it.
	There's nothing in mine.
	It's because you pulled it out already.
	Wow.
	I better get to something else because this is bad.
	You're in trouble, my friend.
	You're failing me.
	I'm maxing it off, don't worry.
	I'm not going to play any more, anything else that's kind of funny.
	Cyber season, John.
	Cyber season is upon us, and I want to keep track of all these different legislative proposals that will be moving through Congress once everyone reconvenes, and just to have them in a row, and this is all in your show notes.
	It's cyber season.
	Here's what's coming up.
	So we have CISA. That's the Computer Information Sharing Act.
	We have the Protecting Cyber Networks Act.
	Which would authorize within the ODNI, the Cyber Threat Intelligence Integration Center, which was established by the Obama administration.
	Then we have the Federal Cyber Security Enhancement Act.
	We have the Einstein Act.
	You'll recall this.
	This is to implement Einstein 3.0.
	And then we also have the Appropriation Act, which will also put in a $9.5 billion line item for the Department of Defense for cyber operations.
	$1.4 billion at the Department of Homeland Security.
	That includes $480 million for the Einstein system.
	$514 million for cyber investigations at the Department of Justice.
	$242 million for upgrades at the IRS. $262 million for the Department of Health and Human Services, $180 million for the Department of Veterans Affairs, and $187 million for the Department of Commerce.
	Actually, there may be even more.
	This is cyber season.
	Cyber season, John.
	And your No Agenda show will be all over all of these bills.
	I don't think I'd even heard of that last one.
	I haven't heard half of them except Einstein.
	Yeah, the Federal Cybersecurity Enhancement Act.
	Internet has ruined the world.
	Yeah, it is.
	There was no internet.
	You wouldn't have any of these expensive needs.
	So we had the big Aspen Institute gathering.
	Walter Isaacson.
	Tell me about Walter Isaacson.
	He wrote the Steve Jobs book.
	He was there?
	He wrote the book on Steve Jobs.
	What does this have to do with the Aspen Institute?
	How does he have time to write all these big, thick books and then run this institute?
	Okay, that's why I didn't.
	He runs the institute.
	I didn't understand that.
	Yes.
	And we had, Brolf was on deck, and you know how much I hate this when we have news reporters doing these little private conferences, and I'm pretty sure Brolf made 75K on this.
	I don't think that much.
	He's a top guy, man.
	No, he's not that high.
	They love him, though.
	They love him at these things.
	If he got 50, I'd be shocked.
	And Comey was on.
	Now, James Comey, director of FBI, formerly board member at HSBC during the shenanigans, the laundering of drug money, and most famously, of course, What?
	Come on, man.
	What?
	He threw Martha Stewart in jail.
	Oh, that...
	You know, you can give up on this.
	All right.
	I'm done.
	I'm never going to make the...
	I can't do it.
	Okay.
	You're the one who found the association.
	I can't do the joke.
	Okay.
	But he's now full of memes, and he has some, I thought, actually refreshing views on encryption.
	Okay.
	Which we need to discuss.
	Now these are all quickies.
	Quickie clips, but it's a number of them.
	Because Comey is just a beautiful source of mockery.
	Now you say ISIL, some of us say ISIS, some of us say Islamic State.
	It's all the same thing.
	Is that now a bigger threat to the US homeland than Al-Qaeda?
	I love how Brolf just sets it out there.
	ISIS, ISIL, IS, it's all the same thing.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	The threat that ISIL presents, poses to the United States, is very different in kind, in type, in degree than al-Qaeda.
	ISIL is not your parents' al-Qaeda.
	It's a very different model.
	And by virtue of that model, it's currently the threat that we're worrying about in the homeland most of all.
	So he's all hip now.
	Hello, 1991 calling.
	Wants its Chevrolet reference back, please.
	I'm surprised he doesn't say, where's the meat?
	Where's the beef?
	Where's the beef?
	I don't even remember.
	Where's the cyber?
	All right, Rolf continues.
	He has lots of good questions because, of course, we need to be very worried about ISIS. It's not your daddy's al-Qaeda.
	ISIS is very dangerous.
	Why is ISIS so powerful?
	Well, they have adopted a model that takes advantage of social media in a way to crowdsource terrorism.
	Crowdsourced terrorism, John.
	Back it up.
	It's the Kickstarter.
	It's the Al-Qaeda Kickstarter.
	Yeah, it's the ISIL GoFundMe.
	We've adopted a model that takes advantage of social media in a way to crowdsource terrorism.
	They have invested about the last year in pushing a message of poison, primarily through Twitter, but other parts of social media that is a siren song with two dimensions.
	They are preaching through social media to troubled souls, urging them to join their so-called caliphate in Syria and Iraq.
	Or if you can't join, kill where you are.
	You've got to write this down.
	Kill where you are.
	Troubled souls.
	What else?
	What was more?
	And Twitter is about...
	I got the good ones down.
	What do you have?
	What do you have?
	Oh, I've got crowdsourced terrorism.
	Not your parents, Al-Qaeda.
	Martha Stewart.
	Cyber season.
	I also have Kill in Place, which I think is a better one.
	And it's a good one.
	It's one that will come back.
	Preaching through social media to troubled souls.
	Troubled souls.
	You got that one?
	We're not going to use it.
	He's going to use it over and over again.
	...to join their so-called caliphate in Syria and Iraq, or if you can't join, kill where you are.
	Can you join, kill where you are?
	Twitter is a valuable enterprise because it works.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	No.
	Twitter is failing.
	Twitter is not valuable.
	Twitter should be purchased by the U.S. government.
	To catch all these terrorists, Twitter is bad.
	I mean, just to add one more...
	Okay, we have people in the Washington, D.C. area that can go look stuff like this up because you actually have to go there.
	I want to know if this guy owns stock in Twitter.
	Well, you better be short.
	Well, I don't think he is.
	That's why I'd say it's a valuable enterprise.
	It's not a valuable enterprise.
	They have not made any profit.
	It's a losing, a money-losing enterprise that is rudderless.
	People are running away from this in droves.
	No one wants to work there.
	And Twitter is a valuable enterprise because it works to sell shoes or to sell ideas.
	Has this guy ever been on Twitter?
	No.
	Sell shoes?
	What are you talking about?
	Twitter won't let you go sell shoes on Twitter.
	Wait a minute.
	I don't think he's actually been on Twitter ever.
	Sell shoes?
	What's he talking about?
	And Twitter is a valuable enterprise because it works to sell shoes or to sell ideas.
	Ideas.
	It works to sell...
	Hey, Twitter, why don't you verify me?
	Then maybe you'll become valuable.
	This message to troubled souls...
	Troubled souls.
	Again, I talk about your parents' al-Qaeda, and I mean to convey the sense that the model is just totally different.
	With al-Qaeda, if you wanted to consume their propaganda, you had to go find it somewhere on the web, You'd read their magazine.
	If you want to talk to a terrorist, you might send an email in.
	Remember, talk to a terrorist.
	Call 1-800 to their magazine and hope that somebody answers you.
	ISIL has changed that model entirely because ISIL is buzzing on your...
	Terrorist on the line right now!
	It's line three!
	I want to call my terrorist.
	Hold on, let me see if I can call a terrorist.
	Let me see.
	Where is my terrorist?
	Here we go.
	Hello!
	Hey, is this a terrorist?
	Abdul.
	Hey Abdul, how you doing?
	I saw your preaching to lost souls on Twitter and I feel really compelled to call you.
	I need to talk to a terrorist.
	Do you have a problem?
	Yes, I feel like I need to talk to a terrorist.
	I think I'm radicalizing.
	I'm self-radicalizing.
	I don't know if I'm doing it right.
	Are you wearing shorts?
	Yeah, yeah, I'm wearing shorts.
	Good.
	Okay.
	That's a beginning.
	Okay, what else do I need to do?
	Are you sure you're a terrorist?
	I have a shirt on, yes.
	Can you take this shirt off?
	Hey, wait a minute.
	Is my webcam on?
	It is!
	Pip, right?
	That message is being pushed all day long.
	And if you want to talk to a terrorist, they're right there on Twitter Direct Messaging.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	Let me DM at TalkToATerrorist.
	Can somebody please register TalkToATerrorist on Twitter?
	TalkToATerrorist.
	At TalkToATerrorist.
	Please do that immediately.
	For you to communicate with.
	And so they've invested in months and months of pushing this message.
	And it resonates with troubled souls, with young folks and with troubled older people.
	Yeah.
	Hey, hey, hey, hey!
	Troubled older people!
	How'd they go to the old folks home?
	Check that out.
	Yeah, we gotta rouse us some oldies, man.
	These guys are trouble.
	Troubled old people.
	I'm talking to a terrorist on Twitter.
	I'm going to kill in place.
	And it resonates with troubled souls, with young folks and with troubled older people.
	I'm just talking to you.
	I've been meaning to kill someone.
	This guy is insane.
	He's great.
	How does he have the...
	And he has it for another eight more years.
	Ten years by statutory...
	But comedy.
	Get Joe Biden as president and this guy.
	And then we're good to go.
	We can run this show to 2030.
	It's the reason we have these investigations all across the United States.
	Oh, for troubled old people.
	That's why we have investigations all across the United States because of troubled old people.
	investigations all across the United States, that year of investment is producing a work view of the world on the part of a lot of people who either want to travel to the caliphate or kill where they are.
	Kill where they are.
	And my job, along with a lot of our partners, is to find the travelers and stop them, and most urgently to stop those who want to kill where they are.
	This kill where they are thing, this kill where they are thing is creepy.
	Yeah, he's the one promoting it.
	Yes, I've never heard this.
	I've never heard the phrase before.
	But okay.
	We are reaching out to troubled souls on the Twitters, and we're doing this, obviously, through direct messaging.
	Now, this is when we get the troubled soul, but then the whole idea is you use this very sophisticated one-on-one marketing on the Tweeters.
	Why doesn't somebody mention that probably 99% of the troubled or the terrorists online on the DM are all honeypot folks?
	That's what his hundreds of investigations are.
	They're all the honeypots, setting these poor old people, these troubled old people up.
	Now then, of course, this is where it all breaks down, because Comey is quite clear.
	When it's DM on Twitter, Twitter is handing them everything they want.
	Not a problem.
	Twitter's doing it.
	And I hope Twitter's charging a lot because that should be their business model.
	This is a thing, by the way, that does bother me.
	I think the FBI and a lot of these guys constantly hope to get this stuff for free.
	Oh yeah, but you can't do that.
	No, no.
	It should be charged.
	And this is Twitter's business model.
	You should only be working for the feds.
	For troubled old people.
	Who else is on Twitter?
	Troubled old people.
	Yeah.
	And Kanye.
	But then, of course, we move everyone over to the encrypted, end-to-end encrypted systems.
	This is where the problems begin.
	So do you want the software manufacturers to allow some sort of key that will give you that kind of access once you get a quarter order?
	Now, his answer is actually somewhat refreshing for once.
	For once, it's somewhat refreshing.
	The answer is, I don't know exactly.
	I can picture the end state we need.
	We need judges' orders to be complied with.
	Now, how to figure that out?
	Lots of people, smart people, tell me, oh, it's too hard.
	I don't buy that.
	I don't think we've tried hard enough yet.
	If we recognize that we all share the same values, I think smart people can figure out how to do it.
	And it may not be the same for every company.
	The goal of the government is clear.
	We need to, with the right showing to a judge, be able to get access to the information in those targeted individual cases.
	How a company does it may depend upon the company's business model.
	There are companies out there now that encrypt their data in motion.
	This is important.
	There's a difference between encrypting your data end-to-end and encrypting your data in motion.
	Which is a term I had also not heard.
	I've never heard that either.
	What he means is he's looking specifically at Gmail as an example.
	Gmail reads your email unless you send it encrypted, but it only encrypts the data in motion when it's being transferred from Google out to you and vice versa.
	So they, of course, is their business model to read your email, to give you advertising.
	And what Comey is saying is we need everyone to comply with judges' orders.
	And the only way to do that is to go to this encryption in motion idea where the companies themselves have data that is readable and can be requested by judge, by a Fourth Amendment, by a warrant to be handed over to the feds.
	And he's saying, look, I don't care how you do it, whatever your business model is, but you're going to do it.
	It may depend upon the company's business model, right?
	There are companies out there now that encrypt their data in motion.
	And are able to comply with judges' orders because they see the content of the communication because it's part of their business model.
	We need to figure out how to achieve the end goal, but the government ought not to be telling people this is the way you ought to do it because we don't know their business well enough or their technology.
	That's right.
	Hello, Silicon Valley.
	You're about to get a little visit from Mr.
	Comey.
	Then he answered a question which got a lot of applause.
	This group at the Aspen Institute, what a bunch of jabroni douchebags.
	Oh, they're clapping.
	Oh, you saved us.
	Now, I've been counting Jade Helm.
	Jade Helm is now at...
	We are Jade Helm plus 33 days since we're supposed to have been invaded by the United States military.
	And whenever I talk about Jade Helm, you tell me you're waiting for what?
	The attacks on the 4th of July.
	You told us recently that you and your colleagues thwarted a July 4th attack or attacks, right?
	Correct.
	What can you tell us about that?
	Not much.
	Now, why is it not much all of a sudden?
	Whenever these guys catch a terrorist, it's like, oh, front page.
	We release the court documents.
	We're all proud.
	We set up the kangaroo court.
	Right, and we got him.
	We nailed it.
	We're protecting you.
	But no, July 4th, no, I can't tell you too much, bro.
	There were a number of...
	What's interesting about the ISIL model there, too, is the normal terms of inspired, directed, or enabled blend together.
	Inspired, directed, or enabled.
	They blend together.
	Write that down.
	Inspired, directed, or enabled blend together with ISIL. Because they're just pushing.
	They're like a devil on somebody's shoulder saying kill, kill, kill all day long.
	Okay, so Twitter is now a devil.
	You can clip that little kill, kill, kill thing out and add it to the other two or three kill, kill, kill things we've got.
	That's a very good idea.
	Remind me to do that right after the show.
	Inspired, directed, or enabled blend together with ISIL because they're just pushing.
	They're like a devil on somebody's shoulder saying kill, kill, kill all day long.
	All day long.
	So figuring out whether someone was directed or inspired or enabled is actually a waste of time in many cases.
	There were a number of people who were bent on engaging in attacks in the United States, killing innocent people.
	Right.
	Time to the July 4th holiday.
	Right.
	And thanks to great work, not just by the FBI, but by our partners in state and local and federal law enforcement, it was disrupted.
	Disrupted.
	And you say...
	Woo!
	Woo!
	Were these ISIS or ISIL-related threats?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And that's why you've concluded now that ISIS represents the major threat to the U.S. homeland as far as terrorism.
	Hold on.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	Now, wouldn't...
	Hold on a second.
	Stop tape.
	Take the stops.
	Stop tape.
	Stay paid.
	Okay.
	Wouldn't a reporter...
	Point out exactly what you pointed out a second ago with Comey.
	You got him right in front of you.
	You say, well, this is interesting.
	But generally speaking, when you bust the dumbest guys in the world, whoever they are, for even thinking or looking cross-eyed, and you march them out and you tell us the details of what happened, like the New York thing and the bombing, the subway guy.
	Every single time.
	Broadside bomber and all the rest.
	And we need this in order to continue the funding for the FBI. We need to show our relevance.
	You could put that in there for icing on the cake.
	Yeah.
	But you'd think you'd say something, but he's just keeping the whole thing a big secret.
	So you're just saying that you caught somebody?
	You're saying that this was going to happen on the July 4th weekend?
	That's why you've concluded now that ISIS represents the major threat to the U.S. homeland as far as terrorism is concerned.
	Right.
	And one of the reasons I say that is the sheer volume.
	I have investigations, the FBI's investigations related to this threat all across the country.
	There are hundreds of investigations.
	We're trying to understand where somebody is on the spectrum between a consumer of this poison on Twitter to an actor who's about to try and murder innocent people.
	Wow.
	A consumer of this poison or an actor who's about to kill innocent people?
	His words are fabulous.
	And evaluate, where are they on that spectrum?
	We have hundreds of people.
	Where are you on the spectrum, John?
	Are you just a consumer of the poison or are you ready to act?
	I think that I am probably...
	I haven't seen the poison.
	Looking at on that spectrum.
	I snorted.
	The ISIL tweeters in Syria have 20...
	What?
	The ISIL tweeters?
	Hold on a second.
	Ha!
	I hadn't even heard this.
	The ISIL tweeters, really?
	People were looking at on that spectrum.
	The ISIL tweeters in Syria have 21,000 English language followers.
	Whoa!
	Whoa!
	And you can always follow me on Twitter.
	Oh, man.
	Whoa!
	20,000 followers.
	John, what do you have?
	60,000?
	70,000?
	I have 102,000.
	You should be under investigation.
	You got more followers than the tweeters with the English language, ISIS follower things.
	Thousand English language followers.
	Hundreds of those people, probably thousands, are in the United States.
	So our job for some community is figuring out, so who are they?
	Who are they?
	Where are they along this line from consuming to asking?
	Go to Twitter and ask them who they are.
	They're all registered.
	They have domains.
	Hey, talk to a terrorist.
	They have IP addresses.
	You know who their vendor is that gives them the IP address?
	Talk to the terrorist.
	How hard is it?
	Talk to the terrorist.
	And where are they along this line from consuming to acting?
	Oh, just look.
	And that's why this is our dominant threat that we face today.
	Can you monitor all those people?
	Of course not.
	Our challenge is finding them all in that haystack.
	Yeah, we can't monitor them all.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Well, we need our friends.
	Now, I'm almost done here.
	This is just too good.
	Now Comey is going to show us how he's going to convince Silicon Valley to participate in this little scheme of in-motion encryption versus full-blown end-to-end encryption.
	We actually share the same values.
	I mean, I hate this framework where people talk about the crypto wars.
	Have you heard about the crypto wars?
	No, I haven't heard.
	When did that happen?
	Apparently, it's a thing.
	The crypto.
	He hates it.
	It's such a thing, he hates it.
	I got to tell you, I'm on the tweeters.
	I go to AppTalk.
	I haven't heard of it.
	I've never heard the crypto.
	I think he's making some of this up.
	You think?
	We actually share the same values.
	I mean, I hate this framework.
	I hate.
	You talk about the crypto wars.
	Strong words, call me.
	Wars are fought between people who don't share the same values.
	I talk to these folks who lead these companies.
	They all care about the same things I do.
	They care about security on the Internet.
	They care about public safety.
	So I'm hoping we can stop the war talk and just say, look, Stop the war talk.
	Where is this taking place?
	This war talk.
	Stop the war talk.
	Hoping we can stop the war talk and just say, look, you have a business to run, but you love your country.
	You love your children.
	Do you love your kids?
	Hey, hey, hey, hey.
	You love your kids?
	You love your country?
	You might as well stop that crypto war talk, baby.
	But you love your country?
	You send an FBI goer and say, hey, do you like your little girl Jenny?
	I think she's the playground right now.
	Do you love her?
	Do you really do?
	It's good to know.
	Oh, Sally, yeah.
	Isn't she in preschool?
	I think she's with Mrs.
	Robinson.
	And her head is gone.
	Why do you dislike the phrase, lone wolf terrorist?
	Oh, hold on.
	I'm sorry.
	I popped that one too early.
	I'm still on the other one.
	Hold on.
	Convincing the Valley.
	We can stop the war talk and just say, look, you have a business to run, but you love your country.
	You love your children.
	You love public safety.
	We share the same values.
	Help us figure out how to do this in a way that preserves innovation, that protects privacy.
	Maybe it's too hard.
	But Silicon Valley, in fact, the whole country's filled with a lot of people who stood in their garage in flip-flops 20 years ago, and someone said, it's just too hard.
	Thank goodness they didn't believe those people.
	Godness goodness?
	Godness goodness?
	So I think of well-motivated, innovative people, and the FBI director should not be a source of innovation.
	Don't worry, that's not going to happen.
	Come together and say, so how might we position our country so that judges' orders can be complied with, but privacy and strong encryption can remain a huge part of our lives?
	That I'm optimistic that we can do something.
	All right, why don't you pack that optimism and put it back in your underwear where they belong?
	Comey, a little memo to you, Comey.
	Memo.
	Encryption is not something you can stop.
	It's out there.
	So even if you don't have end-to-end, and of course we're dealing with old people who are stupid.
	Are you okay?
	Was that your dead man switch?
	You're okay.
	You're still good.
	Encryption will always be there.
	There is no...
	And he's admitting, although I have some doubt, but he's admitting they cannot decrypt strong encryption, or not fast enough.
	And no matter what you try, Mr.
	Comey, nothing will stop encryption.
	Genies out of the bottle is not going to happen.
	There is only one way you can do this.
	And it's simple.
	We know how to do this.
	We know how to get around encryption.
	You okay?
	Yeah.
	It sounds like someone's knocking at the door, you're falling down, the foghorn's going off.
	I don't know what's happening.
	Speaking of that, that's good.
	So let's just presume most of these terrorists and old folks...
	Lonely.
	What is it?
	Troubled old folks.
	Lonely.
	Spinsters.
	Spinsters on Twitters.
	That, you know, all you need to do is get into their phone.
	And we have a way to do this.
	It's well established.
	It's called waterboarding.
	Let's just go to that.
	You don't need encryption.
	There's a long way.
	I'm not done.
	I'm not done.
	Here we go.
	So not only does he hate the crypto wars, which we've never heard of, he also hates the term lone wolf.
	I didn't know that he hated the term lone wolf.
	I had no idea he hates the term lone wolf.
	Why do you dislike the phrase lone wolf terrorist?
	And why is everybody laughing?
	Because, I don't know, you got me!
	A-holes is why.
	Why do you dislike the phrase lone wolf terrorist?
	Maybe they put a slide up that was that Wile E. Coyote or something.
	I've got a big laugh.
	Applause sign is flashing, I guess.
	Because to me, the notion of a lone wolf carries a sense of dignity that is utterly inappropriate.
	I mean, I either say lone offender or private...
	They've got a focus group!
	Well, it's dumb.
	But Lone Wolf is the...
	It's got a focus group and it turns out that people like the idea because Americans were individualistic.
	Lone Wolf is cool.
	Yeah, we want to be the Lone Wolf.
	So now, oh, we got to change it.
	We got to come up with something new.
	Oh!
	Utterly inappropriate.
	I either say lone offender or privately I say lone rat.
	Lone rat.
	The lone rat.
	Dude, who is advising you?
	You need some media communication skills, my friend.
	Lone rat.
	No!
	Lone rat.
	No!
	That's the show title.
	No.
	I just don't think...
	Again...
	Maybe I'm obsessing on detail, but I don't like giving that label to someone who is going to run up on unarmed Marines and murder them, right?
	Or shoot people at a shopping mall or something.
	It's just they're seeking dignity and meaning in their lives in a misguided way, and I don't want to be part of that.
	Lone rat!
	Very good.
	We don't want to be part of that.
	Lone rat.
	Lone rat.
	Last one.
	This just shows you the level of moronity that is at these Aspen institution gatherings.
	Total morons.
	Listen to this moron with her question.
	Gail Harris with the Foreign Policy Association.
	You talk about terrorists using the internet to spread their disgusting message.
	Could you comment on terrorist planning or have we seen them plan to use cyber as a weapon?
	Now, seriously, this is at the end of this whole thing.
	She's asking this question.
	Have you seen terrorists use cyber as a weapon where we've seen nothing but bullcrap story after bullcrap story about cyber breaches, hacks, etc.?
	And this is your question, lady?
	Have we seen them plan to use cyber as a weapon to attack?
	Yeah, that's a great question.
	That's not a great question!
	Yes, he nails it.
	He brings it home.
	That is not a great question.
	That is the dumbest question I've ever heard, possibly.
	This is your version of the shaggy dog story.
	This is because of Trump.
	I sent a clip in last week.
	I may not bring it back.
	We never played it.
	But Trump is the master of the shaggy dog story.
	I think people ignore that.
	They don't notice it.
	He's very good at it.
	Well, let's do that on Thursday, then.
	All right, we'll rerun the thing.
	It's Trump.
	He's just a shaggy dog story.
	People should look it up.
	It's where you just go roundabout, roundabout.
	You just kind of change the subject and on the fly, you get back to the main point, change the subject, get back to the main point.
	You do this as long as you can.
	You sustain it.
	And then you come up with a punchline, which is usually a pun in a classic shaggy dog story.
	Exactly.
	But it's a type of delivery more than it is a model for anything.
	It is.
	It is.
	Alrighty then.
	Um, good.
	You witnessed a shaggy dog story right there.
	Yeah, you did.
	Hi, thank you very much, John.
	Fun deconstructing everything.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Thank you for your courage, my friend.
	And in the morning.
	In the morning.
	Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the Drone Star State.
	In the morning, everybody.
	Out.
	My name's Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I have a new red book, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Thursday with more of your media deconstruction right here on No Agenda.
	I don't think Hillary liked it.
	Jeb Bush or Hillary or one of these politicians, all talk, no action.
	All controlled by lobbyists and donors and donors.
	All controlled by lobbyists and donors and donors.
	People like me from previous months.
	Okay?
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	They're going to... ...call me. .
	Not going to be any good.
	They didn't give me any money.
	Not going to be any good.
	They didn't give me any money.
	They didn't take care of me.
	I don't need it.
	I don't want it.
	I couldn't care less.
	Couldn't care less.
	You are going to love President Trump.
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	And I love China.
	Nothing wrong with China.
	I love the Mexican people.
	They have tremendous spirit.
	They're taking your job, taking your money, they're taking everything.
	And I'm going to win the Hispanic Club.
	Sure.
	Thank you.
	China, China, China from China.
	You are going to love President Trump.
	China, China, China from China.
	You are going to love President Trump.
	You know what that is, right?
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	Among the many to criticize Trump for the comments is Republican candidate Carly Fiorina.
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