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	Oh, that's very funny.
	Someone who's not a scientist telling a scientist what to do.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, August 20th, 2015.
	Time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 749.
	This is no agenda.
	Your official Infidelity podcast is on the air everywhere and broadcasting live from FEMA Region 6 in the capital of the drone star state.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, whatever he said, I'm John C. Devorak.
	It's crackpot and bonus kill.
	In the morning.
	Okay.
	Taking the easy way out.
	The easy way out.
	Hey man, first things first.
	Is Mimi okay up there in Port Angeles?
	And she wouldn't be for some reason.
	Why?
	Well, you know, I don't have any infrastructure up there and all I read is there's fires everywhere.
	Hey, there's a snowing in Reno.
	Are you okay?
	Yeah, uh-huh.
	Seriously.
	There's nothing going on.
	Except one thing she talks, two things she's talked about.
	There's no fires anywhere near the compound.
	No.
	Or the whole place you go up and smoke any minute.
	Oh, okay.
	Just checking.
	A couple things to note.
	One, we shop and we grew up, when I'm out there, she goes there all the time.
	I don't go there as much as she does.
	There's a bunch of, if you leave town, you get into the farming areas, there's people that sell honey for like, you know, a big giant jar of it for 10 bucks.
	And it's mostly honor systems, things where they have the stuff laying out, you put money in there.
	Oh, really?
	How un-American.
	It's all over the place.
	There's an egg guy out there.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
	This is an unmanned and autonomous farmer's market?
	Well, they're individual stalls.
	Just like a guy's place, and you drive up the driveway, and there'll be, for example, the farm guy, or I'm sorry, the farm guy, the egg guy.
	The farm guy.
	Known as a farmer.
	Well, he's a chicken guy.
	Egg guy, the egg guy.
	And he's a big bin out there, and you open it up, and there's a bunch of eggs, and then he asks for different kinds of monies for each other thing.
	You put it in a slot.
	That's really nice.
	That's kind of old school.
	Very old school.
	You can find this in rural America, probably all over the place.
	But there's a guy around the corner from this egg guy who's usually there.
	The guy's like 90 or something.
	He sits around.
	In a rocking chair.
	Pretty much.
	It's like a family farm.
	They sell hay and alfalfa mostly, but they grow vegetables on the side and they sell them in this little shack.
	So now they've got the, apparently, the guy himself at his ripe old age says he's never had anything like these tomatoes.
	Now, you can't grow tomatoes.
	I don't even know why they bother.
	You can't grow tomatoes in Washington State.
	They're always, compared to a good tomato, they're mushy, they don't have any acid, they're poorly balanced, and they have no tomato flavor.
	But these, apparently, are world-class because of the crazy heat that's been going on.
	And now what's more about...
	And this guy says himself he's never had tomatoes like this.
	And what's even more baffling, even though we're still in the middle of a heat wave, it's like 85 and it's very hot up there, which is causing fires, the geese have decided to head out.
	So the geese are flying in huge flocks to get out of the state as fast as they can.
	Are they burning up flying through the fires?
	Whee!
	Ghost goose, kids!
	I tweeted this out, and people from all over the northern states, including Michigan being the last one, have responded with tweeting that, yeah, in Michigan, geese are all taken off, headed south, headed down to South America.
	So the answer is, I asked, is she okay with the fires?
	The answer is, the geese are flying.
	Yes, the geese are flying.
	Well, I'm glad I asked.
	I'm sure you're very happy you want to ask me another question?
	No, no more questions.
	I think I'll just refrain from that, if you don't mind.
	I just think it's weird that the geese are headed out.
	Somebody also said even Oregon, they're all leaving.
	Come on.
	This is important.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it is.
	Well, I'm a little...
	I had this whole thing set up, and I see that you have two clips.
	Oh.
	Women of America, you are under attack.
	You are under attack, and it is something very dangerous is happening.
	I know you saw the same thing, John.
	Well, I saw it on ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS. I have the spokeshole even on ABC, NBC, CBS and her practice run on a local station.
	What we are talking about is one of the worst things I've ever seen marketed on American television.
	And make no mistake, this is marketing.
	Big Pharma is out with female Viagra.
	When you get any real stories, it turns out to be anything but.
	No, it's a drug.
	It is illegal Spanish fly.
	Not the way I understand it.
	Well, you want to start it off?
	Well, there's a couple things.
	I have the New Pill CBS report and the New Pill News Hour and the...
	Neither one of these...
	I think the CBS report turns out to be the most interesting because they attribute the fact that this stuff's even on the market to a public relations campaign.
	Late today, the FDA approved the pink pill to improve a woman's sexual desire.
	Until now, no drug had been approved to boost libido.
	Dr.
	John LaPook has more.
	Happy birthday, Grandma!
	Sherry Mike is a married mother of two.
	After going on birth control in her late teens, she noticed a change in her sex drive.
	The lack of desire, the lack of sexual thoughts, no libido, it's just this one area that's kind of holding us back from being truly happy.
	The drug, Addie, is designed to treat low libido in pre-menopausal women.
	The 34-year-old is eager to see if it works for her.
	I've tried vitamins.
	Me and my husband have tried counseling.
	I've tried hypnotherapy.
	But none of those have worked.
	Side effects include sleepiness, nausea, and when used with alcohol, fainting.
	The company told us it plans to include a warning not to use alcohol with the drug, which must be taken daily.
	Before today, the drug was rejected twice because of concerns about the side effects and its level of effectiveness.
	A public relations campaign called Even the Score lobbied Congress and the FDA for approval.
	You have countless medication options that will make you just as randy as a teenager.
	They made this spoof ad and charged sexism because there was no sexual dysfunction drug for women.
	Dr.
	Adrian Few-Berman urged the FDA to reject the drug.
	It will send a signal to companies that they can launch a well-funded public relations campaign and pressure the FDA into approving a drug that it wouldn't approve based on the science.
	The FDA says this approval comes with a boxed warning to highlight the risks of low blood pressure and fainting in patients who drink alcohol while using the drug.
	Sounds perfect.
	The warning will also apply to patients on certain medications and those with liver disease.
	Listening to this, and I want to hear your opinion before I launch into a couple things that I caught regarding Addy, which is probably the worst name in the world.
	Who came up with this?
	A-D-D-Y-I? Addy?
	Yeah.
	So, to me, if you've got a pill that's going to make your wife horny and she might pass out, it's perfect!
	Yeah.
	Genius.
	Of course, I think, was revealed more on the NewsHour.
	Yeah, I saw this.
	I saw the NewsHour.
	Where they discussed it with this one woman who says, this is bullcrap.
	It doesn't work anyway.
	And by the way, this would be a very attractive drug for lesbian bed death.
	Although the lesbians seem to be doing fine using just a small amount of testosterone, which was never mentioned in any of these reports.
	You know, and it's...
	You say that, and this is the number one way that women currently are treated, but the problem is testosterone.
	I don't think there's a patent on any of these, or that it's out of patent.
	All these testosterone drugs are kind of generic now.
	You can get them compounded.
	There's a million different ways to get it, so there's no real money.
	And I want to mention something at that last report.
	The first woman who came on says, I went and had hypnosis, and she went on and on and on.
	This woman is a grandmom.
	She apparently is just preoccupied with sex because she did have a very apparent...
	Tongue piercing with a little ball.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	So this is like a sketchy representative.
	Before you go into the PBS NewsHour, I wanted to play a few quick clips from their spokeshole.
	I saw this woman.
	Let me see.
	Her name is Amanda Parrish.
	I'm not sure where this first clip is from.
	It may have been from CBS. But I just Googled her name, searched for her name.
	And she's been everywhere with the same story, with the same exact script.
	She and her husband are the perfect people who you want to market this pill to.
	And here's the first one from Amanda Parrish.
	Amanda and Ben Parrish were crazy about each other when they met after their first marriages broke up.
	But a few years in, things changed.
	I was becoming one of those people who...
	We'll try to be in bed and maybe pretend to be asleep before Ben came to bed.
	But then Amanda signed up for a clinical trial for a little pink pill she took every night.
	There's your sub-branding, the little pink pill.
	That's what everyone's calling it now.
	It didn't make me feel any differently during the day.
	What it did do was...
	No side effects.
	At the end of a long day.
	I felt the same during the day.
	That's a good one.
	How tired I was.
	I wanted to initiate and it was not I wanted to initiate.
	There you go, initiate, engage.
	...work to do that.
	Things were different.
	Amanda was testing a drug intended for premenopausal women diagnosed with what doctors call distressing low sexual desire.
	In that trial, funded by the drugmaker, women on the drug flabanserin reported improvements in sexual desire.
	And one more satisfying sexual event per month...
	One satisfying sexual event per month.
	Women not taking the drug.
	We know that it works.
	It works.
	We experience it.
	It works.
	There's no perfect drug.
	I hammered her.
	Jack hammered her.
	Sure has their friends talking.
	Kyle Driver.
	Here she is on CBS. Doctors diagnosed Amanda Parrish with HSDD, or hypoactive sexual desire disorder, a low sex drive.
	Got to where I would be one of those women that would try to maybe be asleep before he got to bed.
	But Paris took part in a clinical trial for a drug called flabacerin, the so-called little pink pill.
	There it is again, sub-branding.
	Designed to move for women what Viagra does for men.
	It just was like a light switch in my head.
	It's the same?
	Oh, light switch?
	And once it got turned on, things were fine.
	Now, two months ago, she was practicing this on a local station.
	I think it's Colorado.
	And she's in the car, stopped.
	She's practicing her act.
	Her act, exactly.
	For years, there has been a pill out there to help men with their sex drive.
	You may have heard of it, you know, the little blue pill.
	But now, a pill for women is one step closer to being available.
	New tonight, our Talia Kaplan speaks to a woman who was part of the clinical trial.
	It's a really difficult thing to say to the man that you love that you're not really interested in having sex with him.
	Amanda Parrish and her husband Ben live in Brentwood, but they're in Colorado for the weekend, so we spoke with them via Skype.
	She says her sex life used to be better.
	We had a really strong chemistry.
	About three years into the relationship, she noticed a change.
	Quickly becoming one of those women who would either pretend to be asleep before he came to bed at night or, you know, come up with a headache.
	So she joined a clinical trial for this pill called Flippanserin.
	Literally was like the light switch was turned back on.
	There it is.
	So we've got the light switch.
	We've got it pretending to be asleep.
	And then finally she changed her message just a little bit for her ABC appearance.
	This woman was everywhere.
	Cue clip.
	Hello, lady.
	I hate it when that happens.
	What?
	This is like an empty cliff?
	How can that be?
	Oh, hold on.
	...involving women, the drug nicknamed the Little Pink Pill, Viagra for women, a key decision today, and now just one more hurdle.
	Here's ABC's Lindsay Davis.
	Ah, a little Barry White.
	It is tonight for women who may soon be dancing like a couple in this band.
	With women now one step closer to joining their frisky male counterparts who've enjoyed the benefits of pills to help their sex lives for years.
	This little pink pill is surrounded by big controversy.
	An FDA advisory panel today hearing the pros and cons of Clebanserin, also known as the female Viagra.
	Some hope it will treat women with a sexual desire disorder known to affect roughly one in ten women.
	Women like Amanda Parrish, one of the 11,000 who participated in the clinical trial.
	11,000 participants.
	Apparently the only one.
	11,000.
	And she's the only one that shows up everywhere.
	I can remember the very first time all of a sudden getting a little flutter.
	And when I say flutter, I'm not talking about a heart rate flutter.
	It was a little further south.
	My vag was on fire.
	My lady pots are tingling.
	This is disgusting.
	This is so wrong.
	Look, before we do any further analysis...
	When you get married, you're in your 30s and your 40s, and you got moron kids running around, your job sucks, everything's, you know, you're busy.
	This is very normal.
	There's a million ways to get your sexual desire back.
	This cannot be an actual disorder, although HSDD is considered by the DSM 345 to be a real disorder, hypoactive sexual desire disorder.
	When you hear what the actual effect of this drug is, which I have here, I think this is from the PBS piece.
	It's definitely a mistake for the FDA to have approved it.
	This drug is barely effective if it's effective at all, because its effect really may be due to its sedative effects.
	This drug is as sedating as four drinks.
	Okay, let me get this straight.
	So you take it every single day, and you're pretty much drunk all the time.
	Yeah, no wonder you're ready for it.
	Hey, baby, you're looking pretty good tonight.
	I don't know what it is.
	I don't know.
	Maybe I'm just drunk.
	Oh, I'm blacking out.
	That's about it.
	It's a crime that they let this happen.
	It is an incredible crime.
	And probably no coincidence, this happens at the very same moment, this promotion happens at the very same moment, when we have a slew of stories about cheating husbands.
	Hey, you know.
	Yes, of course.
	Now, let's stop for a second and consider this.
	This public relations agency that was behind this, who obviously is hired by a drug company, the company Producibility, is so good that they hired the hackers.
	Well, I don't say hired the hackers, but you consider...
	Come on, think about the possibility.
	First of all, you must repent.
	You said the Ashley Madison data would never see the light of day.
	I said it was coming, and it's here.
	I never said that.
	What?
	You said verbatim, that data will never see the light of day.
	I never said that.
	Yes, you did.
	You would not find me ever saying that.
	Okay, somebody please go.
	Why would I say that?
	Good question.
	You said it will never see the light of day.
	You said that.
	I don't recall saying it.
	Okay.
	If I said it, there was a rationale behind that.
	It was about...
	It was a blackmail operation.
	Blackmail operation, yes.
	Now that it just came out, they just blow the whole thing out.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Before we get into that, I just want to finish with one thing on this little pink pill bullshit.
	This is...
	The way this is being discussed by women is so incredibly sexist, is so messed up, shows such a lack of understanding for your male counterpart in life, it's disturbing.
	Back to PBS. Are you getting at this question of why it's taken so much longer to come up with a drug like this for women than it was for men?
	Why?
	Well, it hasn't been for want of trying.
	Pharmaceutical companies have really been trying.
	Viagra didn't work for women, and neither have some other drugs.
	So really, women are more complicated than men, which isn't news.
	Uh, what?
	I guess none of us could argue with that.
	But in a good way.
	Are you kidding me?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	All we have to do is just rub our penis and we're good to go.
	No, there's nothing, nothing in our head at all.
	We don't have to have any kind of stimulus.
	Is that what I'm hearing, John?
	I think it's probably a subtext.
	Well, listen to this, then.
	This is CBS. This drug, I know some people are calling it the female Viagra.
	Kinda, sorta, let me tell you a little bit about it.
	This is for women who don't have a lot of sexual desire.
	In fact, some of them had really basically no sexual desire.
	And by the way, when guys are middle-aged, they're 40 or 50, that's who this drug is really targeted towards.
	But of course, teenagers will be taking it.
	Boys will be slipping it to girls like Spanish Fly back in the day.
	With wine.
	With wine, of course.
	So you black out as well.
	Sure.
	You know, when you're in your 40s and 50s, not for everybody, but maybe as a generalization, you know, women are looking at their husbands going, oh man, he's hairy, and he's got his big gut hanging out, and he didn't shave.
	And then she looks at herself, she goes, I got cellulite.
	There's nothing, yeah, of course, this is when you should just have four glasses of wine, smoke a joint, and bang like bunnies.
	Don't take this crazy-ass pill.
	This drug works on the brain to basically make you feel more sexual desire.
	I mean, what's interesting is that, just what you talked about, is that the pleasure center, often for women, is the brain.
	You know, it's different than men.
	What?!
	I'm sorry, my pleasure center is only in my penis.
	Yeah, you're right.
	This is extremely sexist.
	This pisses me off.
	You know, women...
	Well, hold on.
	It's not done yet.
	...need to be sort of emotionally stimulated in a different way.
	So how does this pill...
	Meaning men don't need any emotional stimulation.
	We're so stupid.
	Yeah, well, is there a sheep around here?
	Let's find a cow.
	It doesn't matter.
	Who cares?
	As long as something is rubbing against my dick, who cares?
	I don't need emotional stimulation.
	No, not at all.
	Affect that.
	Porn has nothing to do with it.
	Allison, I'll tell you, I was at the FDA hearings the first time around.
	Of course.
	This is, what's her name?
	This is Elizabeth Cohen, who, by the way, is kind of milfy and hot.
	And they were trying to get a...
	She has a pearly necklace on.
	...for this drug.
	And you could sense the frustration that the FDA scientists felt, because with men, it's very easy to measure.
	You take a pill, do you get an erection, or don't you?
	Okay, stop.
	This is not how Viagra works.
	It's not how it works.
	Viagra, and I read all the descriptions, and I read all the forums, because I wanted to see what exactly is this thing doing.
	It increases blood flow to make an erection easier, but you still need to send the stimulus from the brain down to the penis.
	That's medical fact, and they're just saying...
	No, no, we're just stupid bulls.
	With women, it's completely different.
	So with women, what they measured was, did you have a satisfying...
	John, let me ask you a question.
	You've been around.
	Yeah!
	What do you need, boy?
	You've been around out here.
	But I am reliably informed that you can turn a woman on by stimulating her genitals.
	Is this not true?
	Do you have to rub her head instead?
	Is that what...
	I've always found a good head massage and scratching of the scalp.
	Yeah.
	Works wonders.
	So that could be anything from an orgasm to feeling closer to your partner to feeling better self-esteem.
	So if your self-esteem increased, you were considered a success in this study.
	That's a completely different thing than it is for men.
	A satisfying event.
	That is a euphemism.
	And I'll add to that.
	That orgasm does not...
	Women, if you think orgasm is the end-all and be-all, then you're not doing it right either.
	This is taking sex so out of context and really so sexist against men.
	We're just stupid, moron...
	Cock rubbers!
	Ah!
	And then the kicker of this whole little banter between these two women was this.
	Okay, Elizabeth, thanks so much for this.
	I mean, I think that one of the big burning questions is will we see more awkward, embarrassing ads at all times?
	Yes, of course.
	Doing breakfast and dinner.
	Yes, of course.
	That's why you're there.
	That's why you're there to set it all up for the embarrassing ads that are coming from this privately held company.
	Sprout Pharma, who have so far raised $100 million.
	They're private, but man, this is of course going to be a bonanza.
	This is fantastic.
	We've got a legal Spanish fly now for women.
	Yeah, Bill Cosby's bummed he got caught.
	He's ahead of his time.
	He's a trendsetter.
	You're right.
	Total trendsetter.
	This is bullcrap.
	And I think you're...
	I didn't take it from this perspective, but you're right.
	This is a sexist bunch of reporters.
	Yeah, men are so easy.
	Judy Woodruff right in the group.
	Absolutely.
	And you know what?
	None of them have been banged properly if they think this is how it works.
	That's the sad part.
	If you listen to that, I have the same report you did.
	You want to play the full one?
	You play from the beginning because there's a little...
	They had, with the NewsHour, they had Judy interviewing the woman who hated this drug, thought it was a joke.
	And she was the same woman who showed up on...
	Yeah, she showed up here and there.
	Yeah, and then I have...
	She also has some Jewish doctor from Yale.
	She was just too Jewish.
	The men, they take this, and this works, and this will be fine.
	I'm going to give it to my patients.
	And the other woman mentioned that.
	She actually said something, which I'm sure is in your report.
	She said something even more interesting.
	Should we just play it?
	Focus is to increase sexual desire.
	It's a very, very different drug than Viagra or any of the drugs in that category for men.
	Those drugs have a distinct physical effect, basically to increase blood flow to the penis.
	That's what it does.
	So it's really a performance drug, not so much a desire drug.
	And you've told us that you do plan to prescribe this drug for some of your patients.
	Hell yeah!
	And she had her smart little white uniform on, her crazy...
	Yeah.
	The glasses that look like...
	Those crazy glasses.
	The glasses look like the ones that, you know, kids get, you know, if they were good doobies at the dentist.
	Here, wear these glasses.
	That'll make you feel good when you get all numbed up, you stupid kid.
	I do plan on prescribing it under appropriate circumstances, with appropriate counseling and ruling out other things.
	What kind of counseling do you need?
	If this is a disorder...
	What kind of counseling?
	Going on and saying, yep, this is the right thing to try, and we'll give it a try.
	Give it a try.
	Now, Dr.
	Fu Berman, you have said, you said in an interview I saw at one point, you said this is a drug that...
	You left out an important part of what she said, John.
	Luckily, I have it isolated.
	Play it.
	Okay, this drug is designed for women who have, the fancy term is hypoactive.
	Fancy term!
	Fancy!
	Because science is fancy!
	A sexual desire disorder.
	Women who really don't have an interest in having sex is basically the simple way of thinking about it.
	And this drug is aimed for women who are pre-menopausal, not post-menopausal women, younger women.
	How is it different from the drugs designed for men, like Viagra?
	Well, first of all, Judy, I wish we knew exactly how it works, because this brain chemistry stuff that's Adrian will talk about is very tricky.
	Oh, we don't know how it works.
	Who gives a shit?
	We don't know what's going to happen to you.
	Just take this and see what happens.
	You're just hammered all day.
	You're all jacked up on the little pink pill.
	We're going to have so many things going wrong.
	There are plenty of women...
	And they're naturally not that interested in sex.
	And I would like to see them bring in some of this data.
	Like, there was one report, we had it on the show, it was about two or three years ago, where it turned out that old virgins, women who never had sex, and never had any desire, just never had it.
	Just, you know, okay, it's their business.
	Live longer.
	Yeah.
	Oh, is that so?
	John, John, John, John, let's just not talk too much about that.
	Well...
	Ixnay, Ixnay, on the urgent bay.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Now, here's the other thing that was...
	And I knew I met one of these women once, and the problem is they may live longer, but I don't think they're that happy or normal.
	I was trying to buy this house years ago on...
	Marin Street in Berkeley.
	Beautiful antique house with shades that pull up from the...
	I can't wait to hear how this turns into an old virgin story.
	So this woman who insisted on being called Miss Evans...
	And she was an old virgin, you could just tell, and she was Miss Evans, and she was always walking around, like, holding her hand just below her throat, grasping her blouse.
	Oh, that's a tell.
	That is a tell.
	That's a virgin tell.
	And so she had an offer for the house, and this was before the craziness of real estate, where you bid over and under and all the rest of it.
	This was...
	The real real estate era where you could buy a house less than they asked, usually.
	But the rule was that if you just came in with the offer for...
	This changed, by the way.
	Just came in at full price.
	They had to sell it to you.
	I came in at full price because I wanted this place with a fantastic house.
	Okay.
	And Ms.
	Evans changed her mind in violation of the law at the time.
	Why did she change her mind?
	Because she's an old virgin.
	Oh, okay.
	I would like to, on behalf of the Curry-Dvorak Pharmaceutical Group, I would like to make a recommendation to all women, and all men who have women in their lives, please do not encourage the taking of this pill.
	This is Soma, if you're at Brave New World.
	And you're on it all the time.
	Yeah, you have to take it all the time.
	You're hammered and jacked up.
	Which means you can never drink a glass of wine, ever.
	If you want to pass out, you can.
	That's the groovy part.
	They talk about it in the PBS report where sometimes you need medical help if you pass out.
	Yes, they have to revive you.
	Here's my advice, and John, you tell me if I'm on the mark with this.
	I believe you can forego the little pink pill and take the little pink no agenda solution.
	Two glasses of champagne.
	The second glass, you mix a little bit of Grand Marnier in there.
	You're good to go.
	It's a fact.
	Well, that would probably work on most normal people.
	Question.
	I need your opinion on the difference between champagne and Prosecco.
	Okay.
	I love champagne.
	I can't afford it.
	Yeah, you can.
	You just don't know how to buy it.
	Would you please tell me?
	Because I then resort to the Prosecco, which to me seems like...
	Well, Prosecco doesn't have any real champagne flavors.
	My wife likes Prosecco, too, and she's a big champagne collector.
	Champagne, of course, is made in one very limited area of France, and it's called the Champagne area, and it's where you get all the good stuff.
	You cannot name it Champagne unless it's from the Champagne region.
	Well, you can, but...
	You'll be violating some international treaties.
	Oh, well, there you go.
	It's possible, but you might go to jail.
	International criminal court.
	Yeah, well, so we have these sparkling wines all over the world.
	The French grow copies of their own champagne all over the world, and they make very good copies here and there.
	They make a decent one in Brazil.
	Chandon does.
	There's a whole bunch of them in California.
	Many of them are credible.
	Prosecco is made like champagne, but it's made with a specific grape.
	It has bubbles.
	It has bubbles, and it turns out to be, for the price, an astonishing product.
	Oh, yeah.
	If you find a really good dry Prosecco, it doesn't have the flavor profile of champagne.
	It doesn't even come close.
	The flavor profile.
	But it's very refreshing and it's tasty.
	It's not harsh.
	I don't like the Spanish champagnes, for example.
	And I've never been a fan too much of the German sect.
	The Spanish ones are called cavas.
	The German ones are called sects.
	There are various bubblers all over the country of France.
	Blanquette de Lameau, I've had some of those that are quite tasty.
	The Law Valley has tons of sparklers, and a reasonable price is $12, $13, $14, $15.
	Right, right, right.
	Okay, so...
	I have nothing against Prosecco.
	I'd like a recommendation.
	For Champagne, and cheaper, what is the most affordable Champagne, and what is the most recommended Prosecco, according to the Curry-Dvorak pharmaceutical.
	Well, I hate to give you the...
	I don't drink Prosecco, but I do know, because my wife found the kind of pink-labeled Prosecco.
	Now, this is kind of silly, but it's true.
	The Kirkland.
	Kirkland Prosecco.
	From Costco.
	It's got kind of a pink label.
	Let me see.
	It's really good.
	Okay.
	And what does that cost?
	12 bucks.
	Perfect.
	Okay.
	So the Kirkland Prosecco.
	Oh, yes.
	I see the pink label here.
	It looks very girly.
	It's very girly and it's extreme.
	It's a little pink bottle.
	That's better than the little pink pill and cheaper.
	Yeah, much cheaper.
	Although I'm sure there will be all kinds of, oh, you have to put the little pink pill, it has to be insured like Viagra.
	I believe Viagra is covered by insurance, is it not?
	I think it is in some plans.
	I think Obamacare covers it.
	Oh, maybe.
	They probably need it.
	Anyway, the Prosecco, that Prosecco won't give you a headache.
	My wife is preoccupied with drinking stuff that won't give her a headache, and she doesn't get a headache.
	Yeah, and subsequently, no headache.
	Bingo, boom, shakalaka, Johnny boy!
	See?
	It works.
	And for champagne, what would you recommend in the affordable category?
	Well, there's a lot of them.
	A lot of them tend to be what's called a grower champagne.
	There's a lot of independent little growers that make...
	They sell usually most of their grapes to the big houses, which would include mum and moe and...
	Vauve Clicquot, and there's a bunch of these big giant houses, huge champagne houses.
	There's actually a code on a champagne bottle, very small code with a number next to it, usually at the bottom of a label.
	And most of the time you see the two letters N-M, which means Négociant Merchant.
	I can't remember the code's meaning, but that means that's usually a big house.
	The R-M, Yes, right, Negotiate Manufacturer.
	The RM, if you see a little RM, means Rick Colton or Grower Manufacturer.
	And you find that little code on there, that means the guy who made the champagne is the guy who grew the grapes.
	And he made the stuff, it's like homemade.
	Those are always cheap.
	You can get good ones for 23, 24 bucks.
	Good.
	Noted, and we'll put that in the show notes.
	Look up the Google Champagne codes, and you'll find a list of these codes.
	There's like one for the co-op wines, there's one for the big houses, there's one for the little guys.
	Just look at the bottle.
	There you go.
	Your champagne, your prepping advice.
	What to get for the bunker.
	And women of the No Agenda Gitmo Nation, please do not take this pill.
	This is not necessary.
	And John and I would be happy to show you how to get around it.
	Sorry.
	All right, so I've asked the chat room to find me the clip where you said that Ashley Madison data would never see the light of day.
	Of course, what I've been waiting for is, and this is the context in which we discussed it, Is the OPM data.
	If you can cross-reference all of the OPM data, which was stolen on 22 million federal employees, former federal employees, employees who have never even made the cut.
	This is the security background check where all of your life is.
	It's the F-986 or something, I think the form is called.
	Now we have this dump, which to me is just a shot across the bow.
	Well, the way it came out, I would have to agree that something like that is going on.
	And a good database company that knows how to do Merge Purge should make hay with this stuff if they can get a hold of the other stuff.
	Which I believe will happen.
	Now, what immediately came out as a part of this...
	And I think Ashley Madison was also very scammy because it turns out you actually could register...
	The emails were not checked when you registered your account.
	And I looked today, there was another list of emails by category, like everyone at IBM. And you see email addresses like BillGates at IBM.com.
	Okay, so we get it.
	And I believe people are being...
	I blackmailed just with these phony, baloney accounts where someone would go in, register, for instance, it would be john at dvorak.org, And then you would get an email that said, hey, look, here's your account.
	It's your email address and you're on Ashley Madison, you cheating scumbag.
	Send me some bitcoins or otherwise, which of course is what bitcoins are really good for, for blackmail purposes.
	Send me some bitcoins or otherwise we just might have to let somebody know that you're a cheating douchebag.
	I have been signed up for stuff.
	I've never signed up for that.
	No one signed me up, I mean.
	But somebody did sign me up for JDate.
	Is that the Jewish thing?
	Yeah.
	For a long time I kept getting these come-ons because all these operations do the same thing.
	They send you a bunch of bullcrap.
	Oh, so-and-so wants to meet you.
	So-and-so wants to know more.
	Bullcrap.
	This is what they all do.
	In fact, the story that's underplayed about the Ashley Madison thing was the woman who said she was paid $35,000 a year to create hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of bogus women for the Ashley Madison site.
	Right, right.
	Now, I do know a woman who was registered and who went on multiple dates, and I think we discussed this, and she told me...
	Yeah.
	You know...
	Yes, we did discuss this.
	On the show?
	Yes, on the show.
	And she said there was a lot of politicians, a lot of pilots.
	Does that ring a bell?
	We talked about it.
	There were a lot of pilots who she met up with, and doctors, but definitely in the D.C. area, just tons of...
	Oh, there's got to be.
	Tons of politics.
	And I checked.
	I checked your email address and it showed up in that email address searcher.
	That worked.
	I checked your email address, obviously.
	Thanks.
	Thanks for trusting me.
	Did you find anything?
	No.
	Well, check it out on JDate.
	But this all kind of beautifully came together at the same time as we got this drug that, of course, your man will never want to cheat on you when you're taking the little pink pill because you'll just be lubed and waiting all day long.
	Along with another distraction.
	It is something of a coincidence.
	Well, at the same time, we also had the subway pedo bear.
	Well, I don't know about the subway.
	Yeah, you do.
	Yeah, you do.
	This is the guy who was the spokeshole for Subway.
	Oh, Subway.
	I thought you meant Subway as in underground.
	No, no.
	Yeah, Subway.
	Amen.
	You said, yeah, no.
	I always think, I'm sorry, I would always think that it was a Quiznos operation.
	Oh, you know, they had this guy for three months.
	So this is not like all of a sudden they had this guy for three months.
	They decide to do the perp walk and everything today.
	And a friend of mine pointed out that there was a game that was out there.
	You know what's a game?
	No, no.
	What is this?
	Where you get into Jared's pants.
	I have a confession to make.
	That ever since I've been in Austin, at least in town, so a good three years, I have had a thing for Subway.
	And there's a Subway...
	Okay, not good.
	What?
	Go on.
	I had one Subway once in my life.
	It was terrible.
	So I have a thing for...
	There's only one thing I get.
	I get it consistently.
	I go to the Subway on South Congress.
	And I have the foot-long nine-grain honey oat veggie, not toasted, with pepper jack, lettuce, tomato, onions, jalapenos, salt and pepper, mayonnaise, and a little bit of honey mustard.
	And I have it with a root beer.
	And I sit there, and I watch everybody.
	The root beer?
	Yeah, and I eat it, Barks Root Beer, and I eat it in the subway, and I just watch.
	And it's a very friendly place.
	Everyone says, hey, when you open the door, it's kind of like a sushi restaurant, you know, where you come into a sushi restaurant, and they go, and they hear, like, hey, welcome to subway, how you doing?
	And so, when this thing hit, My first inclination, my first desire was, oh man, I really want that veggie sandwich from Subway.
	So I went.
	It was packed.
	So they can't be complaining because I think they had a record day.
	That's interesting.
	But now that you say that, it doesn't surprise me.
	It was packed, John.
	Busier than I've ever seen it.
	There's no such thing as bad publicity.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	But that also came out coincidentally the same day.
	We have all these things happening.
	Yeah, it's a lot of activity in the news.
	A lot of activity.
	To get you to buy more crap.
	We might as well stick with Big Pharma.
	CBS had another shilling story.
	For big pharmaceutical.
	And they really lay it on thick here.
	This is about the...
	I should get the echo here.
	Super lice!
	Have you heard about the super lice?
	I have not heard about the super lice.
	Well...
	They get off these network TV shows.
	I should be...
	Super lights!
	That wasn't on the network news.
	That was on some show.
	This is CBS. This is CBS with Gail.
	This is on...
	Yeah, in the morning.
	It's a morning show.
	Yeah.
	That's where they think they do the dry runs for what they're going to put on the real insurance.
	Well, but you also sell to the moms.
	This is something for moms.
	Moms are very important.
	By the way, I have to mention something here, because I've commented on this before.
	This entire week, Charlie Rose is substituted for Scott Pelley on the CBS National Network News.
	Here's a guy, I said this before, he's getting up at four in the morning to do that two and a half hour, two hour, three hour show that you just are going to cite in a minute, the morning show on CBS. He does his interview show every night on PBS, which also gets syndicated to Bloomberg.
	He's got the new weekend show that he does, and now he's doing this The news as a substitute host, and he has to do two shows because the CBS of all the networks does two of them.
	They do East Coast Edition and West Coast Edition.
	Right, right, right, right.
	This guy is going to try to top Sean Hannity for working himself to death.
	He's going to drop dead.
	Put it in the book right next to Bill.
	So here's the CBS story about super lice.
	For years, there's been sort of a confusing phenomenon that's happening with lice.
	There are more cases each year since the 90s.
	Even though schools have screening programs, all evidence showed that parents are more aware of it, and there's this easy access to over-the-counter drugs.
	Well, now we have one explanation as to why, which is that lice are mutating to become resistant to the most Common group of drugs used over-the-counter.
	Okay, so the old group of drugs, common over-the-counter, no good to treat them.
	So researchers looked at 30 states.
	In 25 of those states, the lice had what was called a triple genetic mutation.
	This is going to give me nightmares.
	A triple genetic mutation.
	Which makes them completely 100% resistant to the drugs.
	Giant cootie from hell.
	So they're resistant to the old stupid lay-mass over-the-counter drugs.
	You can only guess what's coming.
	And in four more states, the lice had intermediate level of resistance.
	Intermediate.
	Hey, I'm still here!
	So no matter how hard parents are trying to treat, it might not be effective.
	So what can parents do then if their kids get headlines?
	Oh, what can you do, John?
	What is the number one thing every single commercial says you can do for anything?
	Shave your head and then scrub it with Clorox.
	That will kill them.
	Uh, no.
	How can you treat it?
	Sure.
	Well, the good news is there are still several prescription treatments that are fully effective, even against these drug-resistant lice.
	Are they very strong, though, these prescription ones?
	Yeah!
	Are they really strong medicines?
	Some parents probably don't want to put really strong agents on their kids' health.
	A number of prescription meds are not necessarily more strong than what you can get over the counter, but they are more effective and they are still safe.
	We'll have to change our approach instead of our first step being...
	Oh, listen.
	Hello, parents.
	Here's the mind control.
	You need to change your approach.
	To head to the drugstore if your child is diagnosed with lice.
	The first step really should be to pick up the phone and call the doctor.
	Call your doctor.
	Yeah, when you have erectile dysfunction or your kid's got super lice, call your doctor.
	And it's not just medications that we need to use.
	The nitcomb.
	Okay, the nitcomb.
	Now this was interesting, and this was deconstructed by one of our knights.
	Sir Slough.
	The bottom of the screen, when she says the nitcomb, have you ever heard of the nitcomb?
	You use a nitcomb if you have pets.
	It says headlice.org.
	So there's a website, headlice.org, and Sir Slough did a reverse DNS, which is something I should have thought of.
	So the reverse DNS shows other anti-lice sites, such as non-knitpolicy.com, malatheon.com, skinparasite.org, skinparasite.com, headlice.org.
	And these are all registered to the National Pediculosis Association.
	Founded in 1983, the National Pediculosis...
	What does pediculosis mean?
	Head lice.
	Head lice.
	I'm sure it does.
	It means children would be the ped.
	Eucalosis, skin ailments.
	That's the way I'd break it down off the top of my head, but I'm sure it's got something to do with children, their skin, and bugs.
	Well, it's a 501c3 non-profit volunteer organization.
	And they have scientific advisors who are dedicated to protecting children and the environment from misuse and abuse of over-the-counter chemical treatments for lice and prescription pediculicidides.
	Pediculicidides.
	Pediculosis.
	You're killing me here.
	Proceeds from the Leismeister Comb allow NPA to be self-sustaining and accomplish its mission.
	So it's a commercial for these guys.
	For the Leismeister Comb.
	The Leismeister Comb, yes.
	Pediculosis is an infestation of lice.
	There you go.
	So this is just a triple whammy.
	Forget those drugs.
	Call your doctor.
	Get the good drugs.
	Get the comb.
	You know...
	And people wonder...
	This is played as news.
	Of course, that's morning news.
	...effective.
	The medications are most effective at killing the insects themselves, but they're not that effective at killing the eggs.
	If you don't get the nits, which are the eggs, out of the head, the lice will continue to reproduce, and they're really, really hard to get rid of.
	Again, I would like to ask our resident physician, Professor Dvorak, what do you recommend, once again, if your child appears to have head lice, pediculosis?
	I would say shave the head and rub it down with a combination of tar.
	And I would also recommend maybe 100% alcohol.
	And perhaps dip the child into a vat of boiling water.
	I thought the kerosene on fire, I thought, would be your final one.
	Kerosene!
	Oh, that's the other method.
	Oh, man.
	It's almost a eugenics operation, this.
	I'm telling you.
	I'm telling you, this is crazy.
	Now, I think that what you've spotted...
	I would hope what you spotted was an advertisement.
	Yes.
	That was a native advertisement.
	I'm hoping.
	Otherwise, it was stupid.
	No, it's a complete native ad.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	I have to play the native ad of the day.
	Oh, okay.
	Let's get to that in one second.
	I just want to do one little make good.
	We got a very long email from...
	Let me see.
	Christina Lake Harriman, dentist, DMD. She likes our show.
	Her husband is sad.
	She doesn't listen that much longer anymore.
	It's a very long email.
	She's fed up.
	I'm a dentist.
	I practice at a community health clinic.
	We had a conversation about fluoride in the water.
	We said two things.
	I did go back and listen to it.
	One thing we said is...
	Too much fluoride can result in fluorosis, which is very bad, which he agrees with.
	But somewhere, and I don't know if it was you or I or both, and I don't want to accuse you anymore because you just say you never said it, out of the conversation came that fluoride actually causes cavities.
	I don't think we meant to, we intended to say it that way, but she just wants us to know under no circumstance that Does fluoride cause cavities?
	She agrees with fluorosis.
	She says, absolutely, no reason for it to be forced on you.
	It doesn't have to be in the water.
	But she was very, very frustrated, and she made the analogy, said, look, whenever there's something about aviation, I trust you.
	And she says, there is no way fluoride does not, unequivocally, does not cause cavities.
	New study reveals preschool children's tooth decay rates doubled after fluoridation became Kentucky law.
	Yeah, that's the story you read.
	In 1987, 28% of Kentucky preschoolers developed cavities.
	That number increased to 47% in 2001, according to the July-August 2003 Journal of Pediatric Dentistry.
	Are you with them?
	Yes, and there could be all kinds of causation, but I just needed to say, we, of course, will listen to what an actual dentist has to say.
	By the way, she was the only dentist who said anything.
	We have a number of them listening.
	I don't know if she is a unicorn in this.
	I said unicorn.
	Okay, native out of the day.
	We have to say unicorn more often.
	We do.
	Native out of the day?
	All right, so I've got my, I've got the, I want, all right, so I went, again, I'm watching the news from the networks for the next three weeks.
	Three networks, three weeks.
	So it's ABC. They don't do it every day, and it's always in the C block, by the way.
	ABC runs on a four-block system.
	The C block is where you want to put that.
	It's the perfect place.
	Yeah, and it's at the end of the C block, just before you go to the T's.
	It's almost like the circular writing theory.
	A little bit.
	Not quite, but it's important.
	I got the book, by the way.
	I got the book.
	They study this.
	Mm-hmm.
	So this one, they were doing a story about gas explosions all over the country.
	And they had all the networks did this story where, you know, gas lines are blowing up everywhere.
	And so there's something to, you know, they're trying to promote that idea.
	But they have great spectacular explosions of houses that some people caught on camera.
	Which we sometimes think might be drone strikes.
	Yeah, well, the way these blow up, they're definitely not drone strikes.
	But they're beautiful.
	Unless it's your house.
	Well, no.
	I wouldn't want my house doing that.
	But it's just something to see, I have to say.
	So here we go.
	Now, this is the Monday show.
	It seems to me, I've noticed this before, I think it's Monday they load up on Native ads and they back off.
	And then they put other kinds of advertising in.
	But see if you can spot the two.
	Two?
	In 26 seconds?
	Two?
	It's always two.
	It's always two.
	It's bang, bang.
	Okay.
	Here we go.
	Starbucks tonight, we've learned, adding a new ingredient to its pumpkin spice latte.
	Oh, they do this every year, the stupid pumpkin spice latte.
	The company today announcing the drink will be made with real pumpkin and without caramel coloring.
	It's on sale this fall.
	Papa John's famous gold Camaro has now been found.
	The classic Z28 recovered today.
	Stolen from a car show in Detroit on Sunday.
	John Schnatter selling it in 1983.
	Using the money to start his business.
	Later buying that car back.
	And great news.
	Tonight the car has been found.
	Wow.
	That's pretty blatant.
	28 seconds, two ads, probably cost him a fortune.
	Very good.
	With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C, where the C stands for Champagne Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, and subs in the water.
	And all the James Knights out there, by the way.
	Indeed.
	In the morning, everyone in the chat room, noagendastream.com.
	Good to see you all there lined up, good to go, all jacked up on your little pink pill.
	And thank you very much to PewDiePie, one of our No Agenda artists who came in with the artwork for episode 748.
	And what was the artwork?
	Let me just go check.
	This was the Lone Rat episode, and the artwork was...
	Oh yes, it was the old lady dragging the poison.
	What was this in reference to?
	It was...
	I don't even remember why we chose this now.
	It was funny.
	It was something that we said in the show was about...
	About terrorists?
	Oh, no.
	It was a rat.
	It was the rat poison, and it was...
	I don't know.
	It was a nice, good-looking piece of art, for sure.
	Old lady carrying poison.
	It's something we accepted for that episode because it had meaning.
	It did.
	So if we listened to the episode again, I'm sure we'd figure it out.
	Oh, and...
	Here we go.
	And a note to Sir Paul...
	That seems registration for the noagendaartgenerator.com website is not working.
	There are people who are frustrated.
	They want to give us art.
	Oh, I'll send them a note.
	All right, cool.
	Alright, so we have one executive producer and three associate executive producers.
	Luckily, the one executive producer was Big Spender, and that is Sir...
	Is that Sir Saint?
	I don't know what the S-T is.
	S-T Felter also wants to be known as Rogue, with a G, R-H-O-H-G. Okay, Sir Saint Felter Rogue?
	Hmm.
	I don't know.
	Well, Rogue, no, that's just the way it came up on the thing.
	That's the way I wrote it into the thing to send to Eric for the listing, because he sent in as a check, actually a postal money order, and he had his long note attached, and he said, S.T. Felter, a.k.a.
	Rogue, R-H-O-A-G. I don't know if he's a knight.
	I had a bunch of people.
	Everyone else kind of sealed their envelopes with their knighthoods.
	For many moons, I've been waiting for just the right time to make a sizable donation, you know, for the good of the cause.
	When you announced the club membership, club number membership plan, so he's in the 750 club, by the way.
	Oh, right.
	Okay.
	Which is the next show, I believe.
	Sunday.
	But do you put him in today?
	Of course, of course, of course.
	I thought it was truly a worthy goal and began to plan accordingly.
	And now he goes through a thought process with a stream of consciousness note.
	Hmm.
	Show 726?
	Nah.
	No Feng Shui.
	Show 733?
	Close, but as I hadn't saved enough yet, I didn't think I could make it in time.
	Wait until show 800, which will be a big show.
	Big show.
	Sure, fine for me, but what about you guys?
	Adam needs help with the down payment on the Airstream.
	I do.
	So waiting that long wasn't going to fly.
	And it's really putting money back into the show.
	The Airstream is all about the show.
	Yeah, he's going to go floating around.
	Yeah.
	You know, you won't paint it up.
	That's the kind of thing.
	Who said I wouldn't paint it up?
	I could put a decal on it.
	Yeah, put a big decal on it.
	I need a decal.
	You need a decal in the back for sure, across the back under the window, that says noagendashow.com.
	I think we should make it the Little Pink Pill Tour.
	Okay.
	Sounds good, right?
	Yeah, I like it.
	It has a ring to it.
	The other possibility was show 750, right?
	Smack in the middle of the 700 series.
	Not too soon for the sake of my bank account.
	Not too late for the sake of yours.
	As I noodled on the option, other coincidental aspects became apparent.
	My eldest son was born on 330.
	My youngest was born on 420.
	Wow.
	And the show was scheduled for August 23rd, which just happens to be mine.
	When was he conceived?
	That's the question.
	Yeah.
	Make a note.
	His birthday is next Sunday.
	Hold on.
	Is he not on the list?
	Well, it's next Sunday.
	Why would he be on the list?
	Then why am I making a note?
	I don't know.
	Somebody make a note.
	Hold on a second.
	Attention.
	Back office.
	Make a note.
	Make a note for next Sunday.
	Make a note.
	All right.
	They're alerted.
	I don't think so.
	I don't think so either.
	Well, I typically have less faith in Jungian synchronicity than...
	Well, I typically have even less faith in Jungian synchronicity than I do in singing drunkenicity.
	The karmic breadcrumbs are too obvious for even this simpleton to ignore.
	I don't know if I'm sending a check.
	I'm sending an actual check.
	The only thing that can screw this up besides me is that the U.S. Postal Service, which does a great job, by the way.
	My silly soup.
	We talked about this.
	I don't want to talk about it later.
	My silly superstitious nature believes that I can only help my karma.
	Okay.
	Oh, he says it would be better for his karma if we didn't have PayPal fees.
	And then he says, Amen, fist bump.
	No other requests.
	Amen, fist bump.
	He gets that and then a karma.
	Thank you very much, Rogue.
	You've got karma.
	Highly appreciated.
	Amen, fist bump.
	Scott Hamilton comes in as the associate executive producer from Fair Play, Maryland, 23456, one of my favorite, favorite numbers.
	He has a lengthy note, too.
	And I'll give you the cues for the sound effects he wants.
	Her head is gone, followed by the isolated, blood-curdling scream.
	Okay.
	I'm not sure where the ISO is, but I'll look for it.
	Okay.
	A few nights ago, a local PBS channel broadcast a documentary about the 70s, which featured a segment about a government attempt to establish the Family Hour, which would have prohibited provocative or inappropriate material on TV between 7 and 9.
	I thought that was in play.
	As this was presented, clips from MASH and All in the Family were being shown to illustrate the type of material which would have been blocked in that time slot.
	They then showed news footage featuring interviews with First Amendment supporters who were speaking out against this government censorship.
	Among them, most vocally, was Norman Lear, creator of All in the Family, now well known to NA listeners as the founder of the Lear Foundation, which challenged the voice of the government in supplying TV and movie writers and producers with agenda laden content.
	I don't know.
	So first we see the progressive liberals of the 70s going up against the censoring Nixon conservatives and rightfully championing free speech.
	Now we see these very same liberals shouting down anyone who dares to disagree with them and telling people what to think.
	Holy 180, Batman!
	Thankfully we have you two to help us to see this bullcrap for what it is.
	God, I love you guys.
	Your semi-weekly cerebral cleansing is second only to the daily morning coffee.
	I share with my loving wife.
	Thanks for all you do.
	Give yourselves karma.
	Absolutely.
	And her head is gone.
	You've got karma.
	A good one.
	Scream, I think, is better than the classic.
	What's the name of that old one, the famous one?
	Oh.
	The Vandenberg scream or the something scream.
	People in the chat room know this one.
	You think?
	It's not important.
	Brian Hall is, though.
	He's in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
	He gave us $233.73.
	And again, check over the transom.
	Another note in the mail.
	And with this donation, he becomes a knight, I believe.
	Well, let's find out by reading the note.
	No, a baronet.
	He's a baronet.
	He's upgraded, yes.
	In the morning, gentlemen, a close find of 23373, which by my calculation below should confer baronet status.
	Jingle request, unless you've played it 30 times already.
	Obama, KLF, Doctrine, the TARDIS, no, no, no.
	What?
	Which one's that?
	I don't know.
	We have so many.
	My thanks to you and all the producers for some great laughs and insight.
	The show is truly, truly a sanity-saving comfort.
	I was talking to a friend recently about hitting people in the mouth, something both of us try to do but find difficult.
	The moment you say mainstream media, you know the listener is thinking, oh, it's one of those guys.
	What he's thinking is the guy, the solo, the lone wolf, who's got his Logitech webcam, and he's mounted it on his monitor, and he's three feet, he's two feet away from it, and he's yelling at you on YouTube.
	That's one of those guys.
	So I pondered for a time and came up with what I hope is a decent, minimally alienated pitch.
	No Agenda is a serious comedy that analyzes both left and right media exposing ignorance, stupidity, corruption, and LIES! LIES! Or very succinctly, MST3K for MSNBC. Okay.
	Perhaps this will help other no-agenda producers and maybe spark some debate and we can refine it to truly effective elevator pitch.
	And I stole the MST3K bit from anyone I didn't do so consciously.
	If you stole it.
	Here we go.
	I found it.
	And this is what it means.
	Ah!
	One, two, three, four.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, hey.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Hey, listen.
	Hey, you're in my house.
	Hey.
	Shame on you.
	You shouldn't be doing this.
	You've got karma.
	Nice.
	Thank you very much.
	Now I want to mention the proposal I put forth to harass celebrities with high numbers, especially the million.
	Yes, I've seen some of this happening.
	100,000 plus.
	Yes, we have a number of people that are doing this to an extreme in one case, but I thought it was great.
	I caught Kristen Chenoweth within two minutes of her posting, and I told her to listen to the show.
	And she said she will!
	Oh, really?
	Which I then reposted.
	And who is she?
	She is an actress-singer.
	I don't know if she won the Tony, but she should have won the Tony for this last season.
	It's pronounced Choney.
	The Choney?
	Yeah, that's how Liza Minnelli says it.
	The Choney.
	The Choney.
	She's a fantastic singer and pretty famous.
	You can look her up.
	And so she said she will.
	So that got a whole buzz going with a bunch of others.
	Oh, you should.
	Yes, you should.
	Oh, excellent.
	Keep doing that.
	And all we need is one or two of these celebrities.
	To retweet.
	To retweet to their millions that they listen to this show and it's pretty good.
	Because the celebrity retweeting to like, let's say some of the singers have like 20 million people.
	There'll be a few people that pick up on it.
	So this is an important initiative I would invite everybody to do.
	Yes, we encourage more of that, absolutely.
	And finally, our last associate executive producer is Dowie Andala.
	Dowie Andala.
	Dowie Andala in Martin's Dick.
	You nailed it!
	On the Dutch News, they spent 30 seconds on Donald Trump.
	Donald Trump, hard to stop his campaign.
	Had to stop his campaign.
	Oh, he had to stop.
	Okay.
	I'm still on this wrong monitor.
	What are you doing with all your time, man?
	We don't have time to fix your computer system.
	I don't have time to swap two monitors, yes.
	I don't know why.
	Sorry.
	That's why the show's over.
	I'm so tired.
	I have a couple shots and I take a nap and then I forget everything.
	Smoke some crack.
	Fire up a bowl.
	He had to stop his campaign for a few days because he had to show up in court.
	Not that he committed a crime, but he has jury duty.
	That was it.
	Nothing else.
	How obvious is that?
	The Dutch will only remember Trump and show up in court.
	Live live with life, I think is what I'm supposed to say.
	Life would suck without the No Agenda show.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Well, that's how it's done.
	That is how it's done.
	He's a big joke, and I know how that works.
	I read Dutch newspapers.
	I read, you know, there's lots of stuff.
	I'm on all of the good lists for Dutch information because you get a lot of European Union-type news, and then you learn things.
	And what I see is something comes out, then within an hour they have a translated version.
	They're just scanning radar online.
	They're scanning CNN. They're just scanning all the news feeds.
	Oh, here's a story.
	And they just translate it to Dutch, and then they call it reporting.
	And so someone's like, hey, we have to make this Trump look like a dick here.
	That's ratings.
	And so then they pick that.
	So have you noticed the latest meme?
	We saw this meme when it started to begin, which was the low information voter.
	Yeah.
	It's starting to show up.
	Wait, let me just do the karma for everybody.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Yeah, so thank you all to our sole executive producer, Rogue, and to our three associate executive producers, Scott Hamilton, Brian Hall, and Dawa Amdala.
	Thank you all so much.
	I will be thanking our producers who came in at $50 up until the executive levels later on in the program.
	These credits are real.
	There's no difference between these credits and ones you see on television, on the movies.
	These are real.
	You can put them anywhere.
	Credits are accepted and acknowledged, including your LinkedIn profile.
	Seems to work very well.
	People getting jobs with that.
	I can't explain why, but it's true.
	And if there's, you know, unlike the phonies in Hollywood, if anyone needs a vouch for this, we're the ones to call on.
	Please always be out there thinking one thing.
	How can I effectively propagate the formula?
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Hey, citizens.
	Shut up, slave.
	Shut up, slave.
	Yeah, you want to do Trump?
	I don't have anything on Trump, I don't think.
	But I have noticed this new meme, which is that people who will vote for Trump are idiots.
	No one who is well-educated will vote for Trump.
	That's the meme.
	Of course, you're a moron, you're an idiot.
	If you went to college, you're not voting for Trump.
	I love the Sandra Taylor, former penthouse pet.
	She came out and said, he's amazing in bed.
	This is good.
	This is good.
	That's good.
	I want my president to do a good job in the bedroom.
	No need for the little pink pill.
	And they're trying everything.
	They really are trying everything.
	And also, I saw him last night.
	I watched...
	He did a town hall.
	It's getting a little disappointing.
	He's repeating the same stories.
	He needs to shake it up a little bit.
	I don't need to hear one more time that you're great in negotiations because you got...
	Was it Mela Largo?
	Del Margo?
	Whatever that place.
	I don't need to hear that you did a great release.
	It wasn't Del Monaco as it was.
	It's the place that he turned into a big club.
	Del Mar?
	Was it Del Mar?
	So it's just getting a little old.
	He's plugging his properties constantly.
	Very good.
	And he's still saying Carl Icahn, he's still saying Kravitz, you know, all this stuff.
	So that's just getting a little old.
	He needs to change that up a bit.
	Although, he knows better than anybody the repetition works in mainstream media.
	Just repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat.
	And then we have some douchebag from ABC who's trying to set him up We asked Trump about a phrase he's using more and more, anchor babies, to describe children of undocumented immigrants born in the U.S. Trump says the parents have the child, so they're not deported.
	That's an offensive term.
	People find that hurtful.
	You mean it's not politically correct, and yet everybody uses it?
	Look it up in the dictionary.
	It's offensive.
	I'll use the word anchor baby.
	Excuse me.
	I'll use the word anchor baby.
	Look it up in the dictionary, man!
	Does the dictionary now include...
	Does it say phrase is offensive?
	Does it say that?
	I don't know.
	I didn't know it was offensive until that guy spoke.
	Yeah, well, he says, look it up in the dictionary, Mr.
	Trump.
	Let me see.
	Anchor baby.
	Definition, I guess.
	Definition.
	Let's see.
	Do we have a definition?
	Urban dictionary.
	American heritage dictionary.
	It doesn't even seem to be in the dictionary.
	Oh, wait.
	Oxford.
	Oxford dictionary.
	We'll take Oxford dictionary for $15, please, Alex.
	Used to refer to a child born to a non-citizen mother in a country which has a birthright citizenship, especially when viewed as providing an advantage to family members seeking to secure citizenship or illegal residency.
	What did he call it?
	Offensive.
	Well, it doesn't say offensive in the dictionary.
	It's not offensive.
	I never heard that in my life.
	Lies.
	Lies.
	Media lies.
	Lies.
	So surprising.
	Media lies.
	Okay, I was...
	By the way, I want to...
	People should look into this.
	Apparently the 14th Amendment, the way it's written...
	And the intent of the 14th Amendment really doesn't allow for this anchor baby thing.
	It was kind of accepted as part of a Supreme Court decision at some point that could still be overturned.
	It's very sketchy.
	Trump's on to something with this.
	Yeah, I think he is too.
	His whole plan is...
	The 14th Amendment, you want to just explain?
	Maybe we should just read it to people.
	It's not that large, is it?
	Yeah, I want you to read it.
	It was designed to make blacks that were slaves citizens.
	That's what it was about.
	And in fact, the 14th Amendment didn't even make American Indian citizens, even though they were born.
	Here we go.
	Amendment 14.
	This is real time.
	This is what we do.
	This is what is not done on any other news program.
	It's bullshit!
	That's not how it works!
	And, you know, maybe if you just read it, the Constitution is not a big document.
	Section 1.
	All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, that's the hedge as far as I'm concerned, Are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside, no state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States,
	nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law, nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
	So how do you read that?
	Well, I would say that the jurisdiction phrase would negate illegals coming over and then having a baby and claiming it's an American.
	I agree.
	I think it is sketchy and I don't think it was written well, really.
	No, but the notes that came with it, because it was debated, and the guy who apparently initiated the amendment discussed this, because even the American Indians weren't included at first.
	Right.
	They had their own nations at the time, and it's only recently that many of them became dual citizen.
	Recently, like the last 50, 7,500 years.
	Mm-hmm.
	And they still have their own passports, a lot of the tribes.
	So, you think he's onto something with this?
	I think he is onto something, if people actually gave it some thought, because it's a joke.
	And, oh, because there's always the breaking up the family.
	That's what Chuck Todd did to Trump.
	Oh, you think it's good to break up families?
	And Trump's answer was, no, I want to get rid of all of them.
	Just move, take the whole family.
	Yeah, but he said they can come back.
	You know, I want to give them an opportunity to come back.
	And as someone who went through this process twice, and admittedly to obtain legal status...
	Of course there was love involved.
	It's a tedious, expensive process.
	It's not easy, and that should be made cheaper.
	It pisses me off.
	It's now all Department of Homeland Security instead of Department of State.
	And they have all these fees, and when you do the so-called, what is it, the...
	Biometrics, so you have to do your fingerprints and the retinal scan.
	The charge for that, for filing the paperwork, is $420, which is just...
	This is ridiculous.
	Why are they charging us at all?
	The taxpayers are picking up most of this anyway.
	Well, it's just to put it in your face.
	Like, ha ha, 420, bitches.
	Ha ha!
	We slipped a 420 into our fee structure.
	How cool are we?
	They're all high over there.
	Yeah, why would it be 420?
	That's a good point.
	It's just funny.
	You're right.
	That's somebody's idea of a joke.
	Yeah, it's funny.
	Because why would it be that number?
	Nobody comes up with that number out of the blue.
	425 is probably a better number if you're going to go with those kind of fractional numbers.
	Alright, so I'm watching...
	There's a video going around.
	I was going to clip it, and I said, I'm not clipping this.
	It was about...
	It was in the Huffington Post.
	I have the video.
	Why didn't you clip it?
	The one about the white...
	Yes, why didn't you clip it?
	White feminists?
	Yes!
	That's a great...
	Here, I have it.
	We need to listen to this.
	See, because I have a clip that tops it to such an extreme, but I want you to play your clip.
	Yeah.
	Which is the clip I didn't take.
	Now I'm regretting my decision.
	Yeah, you should.
	This is a ridiculous...
	And it was slammed over and over.
	They talk about how Taylor Swift and all this bull crap is just nonsense.
	So this is...
	Huffington Post, and it is two women who work for the Huffington Post, Ziba, or Ziba, Ziba Blay, who is the Voices Culture writer, which is Huffington Post code for black, and Emma Gray, who is the senior women's editor.
	So you'll hear these two women in this clip.
	I do need to give you two words, two definitions.
	One is cis- C-I-S, which is just, like we all know what it is, that refers to cisgender.
	You are familiar with the term cisgender?
	Yes, I'm familiar with it.
	It's another one of those derisive terms that are insult terms, and people should be called out for using these words.
	Cisgender means you were born in the body you want to be in.
	I.e., you're quote-unquote normal.
	You're a cis male.
	It's never used that way.
	Cis male means you're a creep.
	It's always used that way.
	Yeah, of course.
	Cis, yes, of course it is.
	But that, it has its origin in Latin-derived prefix cis, meaning on this side of, which is an antonym for the Latin-derived prefix trans.
	So it's the opposite of trans.
	If somebody calls you a cis male, tell them you'd find this deep...
	Say these words.
	I find using that term is deeply offensive.
	I'm a person.
	You cannot stereotype me.
	Those words are the ones you want to use.
	Exactly what I said.
	I want to write that down.
	Could you just...
	Stereotype.
	I find it incredibly offensive to be called that.
	I'm a person.
	You're trying to stereotype me.
	Yes.
	And to give him a nasty look.
	Yes.
	And there's another word that is used.
	Intersectionality.
	Yeah.
	Which is the study of intersections between forms or systems of oppression, domination, and discrimination.
	This is one of the most horrific, and this is just the war on men, the war on white men, going one step further.
	If you're a white feminist, you better check your privilege, biatches!
	You might have heard the term white feminism used lately.
	Yeah, I have not heard the term white feminism used at all lately.
	Have you?
	No.
	After Nicki Minaj and Tara Swift's Twitter exchange, or when people critique HBO's girls, But what does it mean?
	Basically, white feminism is feminism that ignores intersectionality.
	Intersectionality.
	There it is.
	Ignores intersectionality.
	Because you're oppressing the black woman, white woman.
	So not all feminists who are white are white feminists.
	But most white feminists are white.
	Oh, wow.
	Let me just make sure I got that right.
	Most white feminists are white.
	We agree?
	I'd say all white feminists are white.
	I think she said most.
	That's what she said.
	She said most.
	And that, of course, brought a bunch of commentators out saying, what do you mean?
	All feminists who are white are white feminists.
	But most white feminists are white.
	How about most morons on Huffington Post are morons?
	Because white people just don't have to think about things like race on a daily basis.
	No, I think about it.
	And we're not just pulling the race card.
	White feminism excludes the experiences of basically anyone who's not white, cis, and straight.
	Here's why that's so- White, cis, and straight.
	That may be a show title.
	White, cis, and straight.
	It defends me too much.
	So problematic.
	First, it assumes the way white women experience misogyny is the way all women experience misogyny.
	And that's just not true.
	White feminism aims to close the wage gap between men and women.
	But what it fails to recognize is that most of the time, Latina and Black women make even less than white women.
	And police brutality should be viewed as a feminist issue, but it doesn't affect white women the way it affects women of color.
	If Sandra Bland had been a white woman, would a simple traffic stop have resulted in an arrest?
	Would she be viewed as a loud, angry black woman?
	Would she be dead?
	This was very offensive, what they're saying here.
	Very offensive.
	This Sandra Bland, who had a history of mental illness, which I don't mention here, who was yelling at the cop, who did say, you know, I'm going to kill you.
	There's lots of video that has not been shown.
	You know, if a white woman had done that and been a loud white woman and she had been in a cell and she had previous...
	Suicide attempts and suffered from depression?
	Yeah, she might be dead!
	White feminism ignores the role that whiteness plays in creating things like beauty standards.
	For example, this is okay.
	They show a picture of Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition cover where you see a girl hunched from behind and you see her butt sticking out.
	But this isn't.
	And then they show Nicki Minaj, which has an album cover, which has all kinds of sexually explicit terminology.
	It really looks different.
	It really is, if you had showed me a forbidden cover with a black woman on Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue, I would have agreed with you.
	This was a specious argument.
	White women are most often the faces of feminism.
	Tina Fey, Tara Swift, Amy Schumer have been able to break into industries that have been dominated by cis white men.
	How about, I don't know, Oprah?
	How about Gayle Shepard?
	How about Rihanna?
	How about Beyonce?
	Are you fucking kidding me?
	But black women, women of color, we face barriers that white women don't.
	Critiquing white feminism isn't about silencing those women.
	It's about opening up space for even more diverse voices to be heard.
	I need to open up some space for even more diverse women to be heard.
	And that's great for everyone.
	What?
	What?
	It's great for everyone, she says.
	Let me roll that back.
	It's great for everyone.
	For diverse voices to be heard.
	And that's great for everyone.
	It's great for everyone.
	Yeah.
	Being a white feminist doesn't make you a bad person.
	It just means you have a lot to learn.
	You have a lot to learn, you moron.
	You idiots!
	The most important thing any white feminist can do is educate herself and listen and engage with the experiences of women of color without silencing them.
	Because sometimes as white ladies, we just have to shut the fuck up.
	Yes, that was an interesting little moment at the end where she says that because they have the camera on the black girl who is mouthing it.
	Yes.
	And that's like, shut up, ladies.
	Shut up.
	Shut up, slave!
	The entire feminist movement when it first began in the 60s and 70s was dominated by Betty Friedan and people of that nature who welcomed women.
	Nobody was going to join this.
	In fact, until recently, most black women in particular said, this is bullshit.
	But we have now this new generation.
	I'm reminded of another thing that showed up in the same pile of crap.
	That was just slamming people.
	They had another movie.
	I think it was in that same series.
	If you left YouTube running, you'd run into it.
	Claiming that there was not enough...
	All the Latinos and the Chinese and everything, they were all not represented in the exact right numbers in Hollywood movies.
	Yeah, yes.
	This was with the Academy Awards.
	If you don't like what's going to produce your own movies, I mean, you can hire a crew.
	If you get to put a bunch of money together, you can pretty much...
	You can produce a movie yourself.
	Just go do it yourself if you don't like what they're doing.
	That's the way I see it.
	And that brought me to a Tavis Smiley show where they had this rapper who he actually had on two shows in a row because the guy is so interesting.
	And it's a long clip if you want to play it.
	But this is a black rapper named Killer Mike.
	Oh, I know Killer Mike.
	Sure.
	Everybody knows Killer Mike.
	Killer Mike, he's going to talk about what can be done to solve these problems.
	Is this...
	For the people complaining like these two, they're the ones who should shut up.
	Listen to this.
	This is a very interesting little spiel.
	This guy is very, and I'm using the word very too much, this guy is extremely interesting in his approach to things.
	I love it.
	That black people have learned, to the extent that we love this country, whatever that means, that we have learned to love this country in spite of and not because of.
	I love America.
	This is an important thing for me to say, because unlike a lot of other people in this country, black or white, I've traveled the world.
	That's his version of, I've been around.
	I went to the States when my grandparents went on vacation.
	I've traveled the world, and there is no other country with the type of opportunity For minority that you have in this country, anywhere in the world.
	There's no more opportunity in any other place.
	But with that opportunity comes a lot of BS and we understand that.
	But it comes with responsibility.
	We are responsible to do better as black people in this country.
	And I don't care how white people look at you.
	I don't care how you think the government looks.
	I don't care about...
	I care that we have a $1 trillion spending base.
	And if you want to see change, then you have to start to focus on, economically, how can we change our communities?
	How can we self-segregate our dollar?
	How can we get one million black people in one weekend to take $100 and move it to one black bank?
	That's what I'm interested in seeing.
	I'm not interested in saying, oh, America's so down on me.
	Oh, I don't wanna...
	That's why I'm a strong supporter of Second Amendment rights.
	I don't understand how any black person, any black person can tell me that they are not pro-gun.
	And I don't mean, I need 80 guns, the government is coming, I need to protect myself.
	I mean, we're only 51 years into real freedom.
	There's no other group of people that have been oppressed in any other place, from the Sudan to the Palestinians to the Jews of Nazi Germany, that have given the option to stay armed and know how to shoot, wouldn't.
	My grandfather shot all his life because he came up in Eden and Georgia.
	My grandmother knew how to shoot a gun.
	She grew up in Tuskegee, Alabama.
	Just because we moved to the cities and poverty has caused us an infight, there's no reason to shut down gun laws.
	But we don't understand the uniqueness of this opportunity to even to engage in having armed citizens because we've never been anywhere outside the world.
	So for me, I think there's much opportunity in this country as black people we're not taken care of.
	So before we go to the gun route, I want to just say, black people, take $100, pick one black bank or credit union, organize 10 of your friends, organize 10 of their friends, and organize 100 people, and put that money in that bank at the same day.
	And I agree with the credit union.
	I agree.
	The credit union, they're the ones that gave me financing for the Airstream.
	Yeah.
	And you know what they said?
	We don't look at anything except if we, you know, we look at what you make and if you can make the payments and we will evaluate that.
	We don't give a shit about your credit score.
	It's the way banks used to operate.
	We don't give a shit about anything.
	Just, hey, do we believe you?
	And they're, they are, it's not that they're not profit, but the money doesn't go to executives to make, you know, millions of dollars.
	They reinvest it in the bank.
	Black credit union, I don't know, what is an example of a black credit union?
	I'll look for that one.
	I don't know, not in the black community to tell you, but I'm sure there's plenty of black banks and credit unions if you're around, especially in the South.
	If you want to go bigger, one of these leaders, one of these organizers, organize one million people.
	Get your big famous rap stars you always call.
	Have them come out the same way they ask you to come out when they want you to buy some product.
	Have them to take one million black people to take $100, put it in one bank, and watch what that money does, and watch how differently you start being treated that Monday after that Friday.
	And that's what we need to start doing.
	We need to attack economically in places we haven't been.
	Let me go back to the gun issue.
	I'm all for Second Amendment rights.
	I've said any number of times to friends and probably in the media somewhere that if you really want to solve the gun crisis in America, give every Negro a gun.
	Laws have changed overnight, possibly.
	That's my point.
	You want to really stop this mess.
	Give every Negro in the country a gun.
	Hey, man, I want to say Negro.
	Come on.
	That's cool.
	That sounds cool.
	This stuff would stop quicker than right now and sooner than at once if every Negro had a gun.
	The African American Credit Union Coalition.
	There it is.
	There's tons of them.
	There's the HBCU, African American Credit Union.
	They're everywhere.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, Mike.
	Big Mike.
	Yeah, Killer Mike is a very interesting kind of a realist.
	I did something else which the news media didn't do.
	I went and had a look at the entire Hillary Clinton meeting with Black Lives Matter.
	Before you do that, I do have one more clip.
	Sure.
	In this series.
	In our Black Lives Matter series.
	In the Black Lives Matter series.
	Our ongoing coverage of the Black Lives Matter.
	I calmed down on listening to those two douchebag chicks that you made the clip of when I heard this.
	So I'm looking for a clip because we're both looking for clips and I'm doing some research on C-SPAN. It's called trolling for clips.
	I'm trying to find the clip that took place in 1993 at the Gay and Lesbian March on Washington.
	This is when the terms gay used to mean both women and men.
	Now it became two separate groups.
	And this was in 1993.
	And it was a sick...
	I'm still going through this.
	I'm only on the hour four.
	It's very hard to listen to it, as you'll see in a minute.
	Yeah.
	I think it's a two minute little spiel.
	So I realized that those two girls were doing what has been going on now for over 20 years, which is again slamming everybody that's not them.
	And So I ran into this woman, Akiko Carver, and she was one of the first speakers at this event, and it was completely covered by C-SPAN. What I was looking for, and I'm still looking, and I believe it was the comedian, unfortunately, who said this, that...
	This was in 93, so they just elected Bill and Hillary.
	They came out and said Hillary's a lesbian, and they went on and on about it, saying that she was a...
	So now we can finally, if you have somebody in the White House, we can fuck, was the joke.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I remember this joke.
	But this is the thing, after you heard those two girls, this is where it stems from, this sort of thinking.
	It's been going on for a long time by these little twerps that come up and just start screeching at everybody.
	This is a Kiko Carver telling it like it is 22 years ago.
	Do you want the ban on lesbian and gays in the military lifted?
	Is this your country?
	Is it your right to serve?
	Well, if you believe that, then you're racist.
	Because this is the country that has enslaved Africans for hundreds of years.
	Put my grandparents in Japanese-American concentration camps.
	Put Native Americans on reservations and forces many Latinos to live every day in poverty and fear of deportation.
	Is this a great country or what?
	This is the military that bombed half a million people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, killed, raped, and tortured thousands in Vietnam, as well as Korea and Grenada, and bombed and placed inhumane sanctions in Iraq that killed over 200,000 people.
	Go USA! So if this is your country, it's because you're white.
	When you talk about lifting the ban, you're telling me that non-white queers are expendable.
	Working to allow gays in the military is happening over our dead bodies.
	Look at the fact.
	That 60% of the military is composed of non-white people.
	Racist economics force us to join.
	We're the cannon fodder of America for having to kill our non-white sisters and brothers around the world.
	And you're not fighting to get these issues addressed.
	You're fighting for more career choices for white lesbians and gays.
	You're not fighting against economic apartheid.
	You're fighting for Margaret Kammermeyer's pension!
	The NGLTF and the Human Rights Campaign Fund aren't fighting for human rights.
	They're fighting against homophobia as an obstacle towards white power.
	This is interesting.
	The Hillary meeting with the Black Lives Matter people touches on all of this, John.
	Fascinating.
	And it makes me so sad to see many non-white queers working for that fight.
	Uh, I'm a white queer.
	The politics of the queer movement have watered down to nothing.
	The question from the chat room is she's single.
	Do we know she's, uh...
	This movement started with a riot, and it needs to end with one.
	But all we can do is walk down the street and sit in a park, a million suicidal fools in one city.
	We won't fight for true liberation, because that would mean fighting against capitalism and the United States government.
	It means revolution!
	Instead, we're content to let a few rich white fags determine this movement's agenda and to let them ask for a few minor concessions like lifting the ban in the military.
	I love the few rich white fags.
	I like that t-shirt.
	Rich white fag would be my choice.
	So let me say it again.
	If you want gays in the military, it's because you're racist.
	And if you believe that this is your country, it's because you're white.
	When you talk about America's enemy across the line, you're talking about me and my family.
	In supporting the military, you've already named me your enemy, and you can make damn sure I'll fight you like one.
	Fight racism!
	Ban the military!
	What?
	She didn't get everyone to cheer.
	Hey, Akiko!
	All right.
	Wow.
	Nice.
	Now, does that sound familiar?
	How long has this been going on?
	Forever.
	Angry little lesbian, bitching and moaning.
	Bitching and moaning.
	Is she actually short?
	Calling everybody a racist.
	She hates whites.
	She hates men.
	She's a hater.
	She needs a little pink pill.
	She needs to chill out.
	You've heard what I would consider an out-and-out hater.
	Yeah.
	Um...
	So the Black Lives Matter, this was not really Black Lives Matter.
	This was the Bulletproof Organization, who are a splinter group of Black Lives Matter, who I think really have their thinking in the right place.
	And what was shown on television, what I saw on CNN, and what I saw on some of the network news, they only played one little piece.
	And I watched the whole thing.
	It's about, if you put it all together, it's about 12 minutes.
	And I was, I have to say, I was impressed at the Bulletproof people.
	It was very funny to hear one of Hillary's handlers run interference on this meeting, which, of course, you didn't see backstage.
	This is how it works.
	You're a celebrity.
	And I've done this with, well, John, you and I have done it back when people would still recognize me.
	You have a signal.
	It's like, I'm tugging my ear, which means save me!
	I did it for Roger McGuinn recently when he was up in Port Angeles giving a concert.
	We all went to some event together and he gave me the F out of here now.
	So then you come in and you say, hey, we've got to move on.
	There's no time, whatever.
	And another great thing to do if you're a celebrity and you have a friend...
	Can I mention something here?
	You didn't think that that backstage thing that they showed with Hillary and those people was totally staged and scripted?
	No.
	No, I don't think so.
	I think she handled it very appropriately.
	I was going to mention that another fun thing to do if you're a celebrity and you have a friend.
	I don't know if you've done this.
	We have talked about it.
	And I said, do it this way next time.
	So someone says, hey, can I have a selfie with you?
	This is actually before selfies we did this.
	You didn't have the selfie cam on the front.
	And people just had cameras.
	This is early pod show days.
	And you say, oh yeah, can I take it?
	I say, yeah, my friend John will take the picture.
	And what you then do is you take the picture, but you cut off that person's face, like half the face, you know, just take a really shitty picture.
	You can't do it anymore with selfie cameras unless you're moving along pretty quick because people say, hey, wait a minute, man, this picture sucks.
	So here is the approach.
	You're like a mean-spirited celebrity.
	That's why I failed as a celebrity.
	I'm no good at it.
	This guy is actually going to accuse Hillary Clinton of being responsible for the mass incarceration of the black American.
	And if you go back in history and you look at the...
	Oh, it was the Violent Crime Act, I think...
	This is something that Hillary herself lobbied very heavily for, for the prison industrial complex.
	Bill Clinton signed it into law.
	And this is where we got all these, you know, the Correctional Corporation of America.
	This was the rise of big money in locking up people, particularly black Americans.
	And he blames her for it.
	We spend a lot of money on prisons.
	We spend more money on prisons than we are in schools.
	Right?
	But if we look at it from a lens of let's solve this financial problem and we don't look at the greater bottom line that African Americans who are Americans are suffering at greater rates than most other people, every other people for the length of this country, then it's not going to go away.
	It's just going to morph into something new and evolve.
	And I genuinely want to know, Have been, in no uncertain way, partially responsible for us, more than most.
	Now, there may have been unintended consequences, but now that you understand the consequences...
	What in your heart has changed that's going to change the direction of this country?
	What in you?
	Not your platform.
	Not what you're supposed to say.
	How do you actually feel that's different than you did before?
	Now the guy is waiting.
	He's waiting.
	He's waiting for the break in the conversation to jump in and give Hillary an out.
	What were the mistakes?
	So to speak.
	And how can those mistakes that you made be lessons for all of America for a moment of reflection on how we treat black people in this country?
	I just want to, and I apologize.
	I would really love to allow him to answer this question.
	And we've worked really hard.
	We've driven so many hours.
	Yeah, we're not stopping.
	I'm just letting you know before.
	I'm just giving Hillary an out here.
	Just so you know, I'm not stopping you or anything.
	Now, Hillary, this I think fits well into this previous clip you played, John.
	She addresses their concern very fairly from a politician's viewpoint.
	I was impressed.
	She says, I'll just paraphrase, but you'll see where it ends up.
	She says, look, you can do all you want.
	You can get as much lip service as you want.
	You can get everybody all in, and they'll say, oh yeah, I can get a million white people.
	They'll all agree with you.
	But unless you have legislation ready to go, which is how we know in the No Agenda community, we know that's how it works.
	You create a controversy, you create noise, and then you need to have legislation and other things lined up.
	This group doesn't have that.
	Which is flabbergasting in one regard, but also it shows you that this is just a militant bunch of yahoos who are actually set up to fail, to make a lot of noise, and there's nothing behind them.
	But what really Hillary gets into is she's just an angry lesbian.
	I can only tell you that I feel very committed to and responsible for doing whatever I can.
	I've spent most of my adult life I love this.
	So it's about Black Lives Matter, and she's trying to come up with this.
	This is why I don't think it was scripted.
	She's trying to come up with what she wants to say to them, and she just does a throwaway line.
	Yeah, black people.
	Yeah, I do a lot for kids.
	Really, Hillary?
	Through the Children's Defense Fund and other efforts to try to give kids, particularly poor kids, particularly black kids and Hispanic kids, the same chance to live up to their own God-given potential as any other kid.
	That's where I've been focused.
	Now listen to her candor.
	She's nice and calm.
	And I think that there has to be a reckoning.
	I agree with that.
	A reckoning?
	But I also think there has to be some positive vision and plan that you can move people toward.
	I mean, once you say, you know, this country has still not recovered from its original sin.
	This is another phrase I've been catching everywhere, John.
	The original sin.
	Have you caught this?
	Now that you mention it, I think I have.
	I didn't catch it, but I've heard it.
	It's been used in Hillary's email server issues.
	They say the original sin is dot dot dot.
	It's a new thing.
	What is the original sin?
	The original sin was basing the whole country on slavery.
	Even though it's not true, I mean, slavery did come into it, but it didn't come into it in the 1600s or the mid-1600s.
	Also called ancestral sin is the Christian doctrine of humanity's state of sin resulting from the fall of man stemming from Adam's rebellion in the Garden of Eden.
	Yeah, that's the original reckoning.
	That's the original sin.
	The original sin.
	Original sin.
	Let's listen again.
	The national original sin, it was being a slave.
	Right, but she didn't say national, she just says original sin.
	This is new, you're going to hear this more often.
	Right, you don't, yeah.
	You don't need to say national.
	No.
	In this context.
	But she says original.
	She doesn't, she says original.
	Vision and plan that you can move people toward.
	I mean, once you say...
	You know, this country has still not recovered from its original sin.
	Uh-huh.
	She did say that.
	She said country, original sin, yeah.
	Once you say that, then the next question by people who are on the sidelines, which is the vast majority of Americans...
	The next question is, well, so what do you want me to do about it?
	What am I supposed to do?
	What am I supposed to do?
	That's what I'm trying to put together.
	She's trying to put it together.
	In a way that I can explain it and I can sell it.
	Because in politics, if you can't explain it and you can't sell it, it stays on the shelf.
	And this is now a time, a moment in time, just like the civil rights movement, or the women's movement, or the gay rights movement, or a lot of other movements...
	Reached a point in time.
	The people behind that consciousness raising and advocacy, they had a plan ready to go.
	So that when you turn to, you know, the women's movement, we want to pass this and we want to pass that and we want to do this.
	Problems are not all taken care of.
	We know that.
	Obviously, I know more about the civil rights movement in the old days because I had a lot of involvement in working with people.
	So...
	I was very involved with the civil rights movement because I work with a lot of people.
	Okay.
	They had a plan, this piece of legislation, this court case we're going to make, etc., etc.
	Same with the gay rights movement.
	Here it comes.
	You know, we're sick of homophobia.
	We're sick of being discriminated against.
	We want marriage equality.
	We're starting in the states and we're going to keep going until we get it at the highest court of the land.
	So all I'm saying is your analysis is totally fair.
	It's historically fair.
	It's psychologically fair.
	It's economically fair.
	But you're going to have to come together as a movement and say, here's what we want done about it.
	Because you can get lip service from as many white people as you can hack into Yankee Stadium and a million more like it.
	We're going to say, oh, we get it.
	We get it.
	We're going to be nicer.
	That's not enough, at least in my book.
	That's not how I see politics.
	So The consciousness raising, the advocacy, the passion, the youth of your movement is so critical.
	But now all I'm suggesting is, even for us sinners, find some common ground on agendas that can make a difference right here and now in people's lives.
	And that's what I would love to have your thoughts about, because that's what I'm trying to figure out.
	So, I thought she gave some very solid advice, which showed two things.
	Yeah, still sounds scripted to me, but okay.
	No, I think it shows something else.
	It shows that there is no meat and bones behind the Black Lives Matter.
	It is just Soros funding trouble.
	No, I agree 100% with that.
	That's all that it is.
	And these people are funded by George Soros.
	The Black Lives Matter Coalition funded by the Open Society Institute just to make trouble.
	There's nothing behind it.
	There's no meat, no bones, and it's an atrocity.
	George Soros is a racist cock.
	Well, probably.
	He doesn't look like a guy who is...
	That's someone we want to hang out with.
	Anything.
	I think it would be interesting if we were talking business.
	Investment strategy has got to be, you have some thoughts.
	You have to get the Schwartz's to go and make trouble.
	That's how it would be.
	Okay, a little bit about the Hillary email thing.
	I see you have a few things.
	Let me just get mine out of the way.
	First of all, the server that was in her house, now it turns out that server wasn't in her house.
	You pointed that out a long time ago.
	Maybe a good intro, I do have this mashup that somebody put together on every kind of meme and bullcrap.
	This is an end of show clip as well, probably.
	It might be.
	I think if you hear it once, it's enough.
	Maybe you just run it at the end of the show, but I think it might be a good intro to what you're going to do here.
	Hillary Clinton in a way reminds me of the Nixon tapes.
	I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email.
	There is no classified material.
	Emails from Hillary Clinton's server contain classified information.
	I am confident that I never sent nor received any information that was classified at the time it was sent and received.
	Their review of just 40 of 30,000 emails found four of them had classified information.
	Are you confident that those four emails were not classified at the time that you were transmitting them, sending them and receiving them?
	Yes.
	The messages were classified when they were sent and are classified now.
	I'm certainly well aware of the classification requirements and did not send classified material.
	305 documents flagged?
	Right, that's pretty much what it means, Luke.
	I did not receive anything that was marked as classified.
	That, we are told, is not the legal standard.
	I've never had a subpoena.
	You did get one in March.
	Couldn't be more plain, the Honorable Hillary R. Clinton.
	And you think the American public is that stupid?
	The server will remain private.
	Hillary Clinton turning her private email server over to the Justice Department.
	She has insisted she was not going to turn over that private server.
	The campaign continues to say that this is not a criminal investigation.
	We decided to call the FBI. They said, All of our investigations are criminal.
	I don't throw anything away.
	Did you wipe the server?
	What, like with a cloth or something?
	I don't know.
	Clinton has said she wiped the server clean.
	You tried to wipe the whole server.
	I'm not, you know, I have no idea.
	I thought it would be easier to carry just one device for my work.
	And for my personal emails.
	I have an iPad, a mini iPad, an iPhone, and a BlackBerry.
	What I did was legally permitted.
	Clinton private email violated clear-cut State Department rules.
	This is the usual partisanization, which I may have just made up a word.
	We have to claim this is all just a partisan witch hunt when the Justice Department under a Democratic administration is looking into the whole email mess.
	It's not anything that people talk to me about as I travel around the country.
	It shouldn't go away on the substance, and voters do care about it.
	I recently launched a Snapchat account.
	I love it.
	Those messages disappear all by themselves.
	Thank you all very much.
	Patience, this issue isn't going to go away.
	Nobody talks to me about it, other than you guys.
	There you go.
	As we saw right in the beginning of this so-called scandal, Which, of course, is a scandal.
	We look at the MX records, which is very simple to do.
	No one seems to have taken any trouble.
	And this was running to a large company, which I believe acquired Platte River Networks of Denver, Colorado.
	And, you know, they have a specific service that roots out spam and phishing attempts and all that.
	And now it was the Daily Mail who broke this.
	They come out and say, oh, well, it looks like Hillary's server was in a bathroom, stuffed away in a bathroom in someone's house, which is based on testimony of one former employee who left in 2010 before the server was even under the company's care.
	And they actually moved into larger facilities, etc.
	But the way it's being sold to us now is it was in a bathroom somewhere in somebody's house.
	But it certainly was not in Hillary's house.
	It's funny how there's no mea culpa on that from anybody.
	Oh, it turns out it wasn't in her house.
	They're still pushing that meme.
	I've seen it.
	Here's Hillary's house.
	And they're standing out in front of the place.
	Yeah.
	So, you know, there's all kinds of problems, and, you know, it's fine.
	She should go to jail.
	No doubt about it.
	Well, I think they keep bringing up Petraeus, and I think the other clip I have talks about this.
	Oh, let's do that one, then.
	Okay.
	Is that the rundown?
	Actually, I have to do a little explanation when they talk about other people might be involved.
	Right.
	Well, we know what that's about, yeah.
	Members of Congress demanding answers.
	What's the FBI investigating?
	Federal agents are looking at whether classified information was compromised.
	They got that assignment after intelligence officials said some emails publicly released from her private server contain classified information.
	Like this one sent to her in November of 2012 about possible arrests in Benghazi redacted in part before it was released.
	Or this one sent by her close aide Huma Abedin on deteriorating conditions in Benghazi.
	Mrs.
	Clinton says she didn't think any of those emails were classified.
	I did not send classified material and I did not receive any material that was marked or designated classified, which is the way you know whether something is.
	But could she be charged with a crime?
	Could it be like the case against former General David Petraeus?
	He pleaded guilty to mishandling classified information.
	Clinton supporters say that was different.
	You had someone who knew he was holding on to classified information, admitted on tape that he knew the information was classified, and then took it and turned it over to someone who was not authorized to view that information.
	But a former Republican attorney general says Mrs.
	Clinton could be charged, just as Petraeus was, for keeping classified material where it shouldn't be.
	The place in his case was his home.
	In her case, it's her private email server.
	So the question then becomes whether she was the one who caused it to be done and whether she knew that information on there was classified.
	Could others be charged with a crime?
	Legal experts say that would take proof they knew they were putting classified material into her unclassified server or were grossly negligent in doing it.
	Faced with more email questions today, her campaign said nothing that has come to light suggests that she did anything improper.
	Okay.
	Now, the funny thing of this thing was, should others be charged, as he did the voiceover, with the crime, and so they flashed four pictures, one and another, you know, at different angles, dutched a little bit, you know, on the screen, all four pictures were of Uma Abedin.
	I think they're going to leverage her to spill the beans on her girlfriend.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, she'll throw her under the proverbial bus right away.
	Because Hillary will throw Uber under the bus.
	Oh, yeah.
	The name of the company that acquired this so-called bathroom storage company was MXLogic.
	It's an established company.
	Both the MX records.
	Now, they do something a little unconventional here.
	The way it works is you have two mail server records as a part of domain registration.
	So it was ClintonEmail.com.
	That's what she used.
	You put in two servers.
	In case one fails, it goes to the next one.
	In this case, rather unconventional, they placed both servers at a priority 10.
	They usually do 10 and 20 for the second one, so it's always delayed.
	It'll be the second in priority.
	So they're equal in priority and they go to inbound10.mxlogic.net and inbound10.mxlogic.net.
	Both point to 208.65.144.2.
	Now, there still could be segregation in there, but I'm telling you, there are backups.
	There's backups.
	There's tapes.
	There's something hidden away.
	We're all email.
	Yeah, of course.
	It's all there.
	Big companies like that archive everything.
	And it's not just a scanning service.
	And I had an argument with someone on email about this.
	Well, if I was doing relaying for her, I'd never save a copy.
	Yeah, right.
	Fine.
	Okay.
	I don't believe it at all.
	So there's copies of this stuff.
	There's definitely copies.
	What is nutty?
	The Hayden, Michael Hayden, former director of CIA, former director of NSA, is on the Morning Joe show on MSNBC.
	And he says something so outrageous that shows you exactly what kind of assholes work at these organizations.
	This morning you wake up and you find out that the secretary of state for several years had classified documents going through a server that was in an apartment loft bathroom in Denver, Colorado.
	Colorado.
	Can you even begin to tell us what you would have done if you found out someone working with you?
	Now what do you think he's gonna say?
	Well, he might say torture them.
	Yeah, that could be a good one.
	Waterboard the bitch, yeah.
	Waterboard her, yeah.
	He could also say throw her in jail immediately.
	Arrest her.
	If the Russians said, hey, you know, we see this server.
	If I saw that server, I'd go and I'd be hacking it immediately.
	Would that be a problem?
	Would we take issue with that, do you think?
	If they said it, yeah.
	They did it.
	Had the CIA done this?
	Well, let me turn that around, Joe, and ask just a slightly different question.
	What would I have done as the director of NSA? What would the director of NSA do?
	You asked the wrong question.
	WWDN. He's admitting that that's what he used to do.
	He's admitting espionage.
	But he's not supposed to say it.
	Really?
	They go after an email account in which the official and the unofficial emails were commingled.
	So you put a very juicy target out there.
	Well, frankly, not very difficult if you have the resources and talented people to go after it.
	NSA does this all the time against, I would suggest, better defended targets.
	We do it all the time!
	Than we saw in the loft in the apartment in Denver.
	But you didn't see anything in the loft, a-hole.
	But Joe, I think the fundamental issue here is the sin here, and Ron, you've mentioned this, the sin here is the original sin.
	Oh, there it is.
	Another original sin.
	Bingo, boom, shakalaka.
	The original sin is actually commingling the two accounts and not using a government email server.
	That's the original sin?
	Okay.
	Apparently, yeah.
	It's equal to racism.
	The government's always been about commingling.
	Yeah.
	The IRS is huge on that.
	We call it sharing.
	Sharing.
	Oh, man.
	Well, I rescind.
	I repent.
	My information was off target.
	Hillary didn't...
	Oh, I wasn't even going to bring it up until next month.
	I still have...
	until Monday.
	I still have time.
	But it is true that this has become a huge issue that I don't think she can get away from.
	Well, maybe not, but that was not what the point was.
	I know, I know.
	I said it, and I hedged it when I said it.
	It comes through connections of dubious repute.
	You trusted the connection to an extreme.
	I said, I'm going to mention it because I, yeah, I trust that connection.
	Well, do you still trust the connection?
	I think I still have until Monday.
	I like that you gave me that space.
	And, you know, things don't always happen the way they're scripted.
	By the way, the Clintons are horrible people.
	You might want to Google Clinton body count.
	But there's something you sent me, John, which I did put in the show notes.
	And so I also have an offline copy now.
	It's very long.
	It is a deconstruction of Chelsea Clinton being the biological daughter of Webster-Hubble and not Bill Clinton.
	Now, besides the obvious resemblance, The story goes, and we've talked about it before, the story goes through the history of the Clintons, and Bill Clinton is a rapist, and he does rapist things.
	Hillary is evil.
	She threatens people, particularly when it comes to victims of Bill's sexual advances.
	Let me call it that instead of rape.
	Because, you know, they will kill me in a heartbeat.
	These people do not care.
	They are completely evil.
	Now, that does make Hillary uniquely qualified to run the empire.
	I've said that.
	I just don't think that we can stomach her.
	Well, you wanted her to become president so we could have more show fodder.
	It would be fine.
	But then Trump came along and then he's more fun.
	Yeah, he's not going to...
	Can I say something else about that birth of...
	Of course, Chelsea did a lot of operations.
	That article points it out.
	So she looks more...
	She looks pretty decent.
	She looks good.
	She cleaned up.
	I snorted.
	Somebody brought this up in an email to me.
	I think it was one of my tweet buddies.
	I think I knew who it was.
	I can't remember right off the top of my head.
	She said, now that you've talked about this, I'm starting to see it.
	I'm seeing it more and more.
	Now it's easy to spot, which was the vasectomy look.
	Yes.
	And when she said that, because I was looking at something else, I said, oh my God, that's Bill Clinton.
	Now, according to the document that you sent me, Bill Clinton had the mumps and he claims that he therefore could not impregnate his victims.
	And multiple reports that he has a, not a micro penis, but I think a mini penis, two inches or so.
	I don't think that's true.
	The reports I heard early on when this came about back in the 90s was he has a bent.
	It's a normal size, but it's bent.
	Oh, it's a periscope around the corner deal.
	It's one of those things.
	But he has, knowing his background as a Rhodes Scholar, kind of a punk.
	And he didn't graduate from Oxford, apparently.
	No, he never finished because he was apparently kicked out, I guess.
	But he was from that era, and he was hanging out with the Hillary Clinton-type women.
	I actually know people like this, even though they don't like talking about it.
	They're young.
	They're in their 20s.
	They get talked, and this is during the 70s.
	Oh, we're going to have a population overflow.
	We're all going to die because there's too many people on Earth.
	Get a vasectomy.
	Yeah.
	Guys in their 20s, a lot of them got vasectomies because their girlfriends insisted.
	Their girlfriends insisted, and so they ended up with vasectomy.
	They get the vasectomy, look, it comes out eventually, and I think he's had it all along now that I think about it.
	He couldn't, and I'm sure Hillary is fine with it, and it's just not going to happen.
	And if you're a rapist, it makes it a lot to worry about a couple things.
	So...
	It is still a distinct possibility that Bill would jump on the grenade and would at least go to hospital to get her out.
	That is possible.
	She definitely wants this to happen.
	I want a woman on Bill.
	I don't know why they pick Bill.
	You know, I want a woman on Bill.
	And I don't like the idea that you would have two people on Bill.
	One would be a woman.
	So I think a woman should have Bill.
	I don't know what that was.
	I receive the strangest clips sometimes.
	Whatever.
	Again, I want to remind people to listen to this show, these topics are not something you're going to hear anyplace else, and that's why we need your support, because you're not going to hear this ever again except on this show.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	Stepping all over my sales pitch.
	I'm sorry.
	I tried to jam it in there.
	You know, it's hard on Skype.
	Yeah, I know sometimes.
	I drowned you out.
	Don't worry.
	If you had said nothing, no one would have known.
	Alexander Burr in Laval, Quebec.
	These are the people that helped us on show 750.
	Alexander Burr in Laval, Quebec.
	$111.77.
	He says, ITM, another play on my birth date.
	1117, which is, he's born in 1177.
	Oh, okay.
	Interesting.
	We got jobs coming for you at the end.
	Graham Wolfe in Wichita, Kansas, $100.
	Clay, Baccevici, or Basavince.
	I think Basavice.
	Basavice, Basavice.
	88 in Lindhurst, Ohio.
	Sean Coffey in Annandale, New South Wales.
	8080, which is the old chip.
	A lot of people used to have in California, it used to be a big deal to have a phone number with the numbers 8080.
	And everyone had one.
	I think even Gates had one.
	80-80.
	I think Microsoft had that early, too.
	Anonymous in Illinois, $75.
	Craig Harms in Wichita, Kansas, $72.55.
	Sir Rick, our buddy in Arlington, Washington, $69.33.
	Akohai Ekstein, I'm guessing, in Palo Alto, $66.
	Sir Scoops in Aurora, Indiana, $66.
	Sir Kevin Dills in Charlotte, North Carolina, 6232.
	Sir Adnan Vernouge.
	Vernouge.
	Verneuil.
	Verneuil in Hasselt.
	Belgium.
	60.
	Holland.
	Daniel Kepler in Phoenix, Arizona, 5678.
	And now we have a couple 55 tens from John Leonard Sr.
	and Dean Roker, parts unknown, and Matt Seaver in Knoxville, Tennessee.
	52.80.
	Now the rest of these are going to be 52.80.
	Mile high.
	Mile high.
	Bigger and bigger and bigger.
	And the webpage is up?
	Now they can't put them all on the same plane.
	The webpage is up?
	The webpage is going up probably before the next show.
	Or at least by next Thursday.
	I'm watching TV. I'm trying to collect clips.
	I'm doing research.
	I'm going to put the webpage up sooner than later.
	Trolling for clips.
	I tried to listen to a six-hour 1993 gay and lesbian thing.
	Come on!
	Yes, you'd get a pass.
	Definitely get a pass for that.
	Jim Lesko in...
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I started with Producer Miles in Phoenix, Arizona.
	5280.
	These are all 5280s.
	Jim Lesko in Alameda, California.
	Herb Lamb, our buddy in Sugar Hill, Georgia.
	Eric Mackey in Lawrenceville.
	We missed a douchebag call out here.
	Jim Lesko?
	Oh, okay.
	What does he have here?
	He calls out Cordula for being a douchebag and is blaming the Wi-Fi on the ferry for not being able to listen.
	Now, that's not a good excuse.
	Just Wi-Fi on the Alameda Ferry.
	He's talking about the ferry that goes to San Francisco from Alameda.
	Yeah, he's saying that the Cordula is a douchebag because he said, well, I can't listen, man, because there's no Wi-Fi in the ferry.
	Just download the show onto your phone.
	Onto a, yeah.
	It's not that hard.
	A stick.
	A stick.
	Stick's work.
	Eric Mackey, Zenspirations in Galesburg, Michigan, 5280.
	Ben Smith in Greenville, Texas.
	Rick Olson in Ellensburg, Washington.
	Rodney Adams in Forest, Virginia.
	John Jolly.
	Maybe Jolly, but it says Jolly, it looks like.
	Yukon, Oklahoma.
	Sean Coffey in Annandale, New South Wales.
	Stefan Yarosh.
	Sean comes in twice today.
	He came in at 80-80 and he comes in again with 52-80 from Mile High.
	Cool.
	Stephen LaRoche in Wakefield, Massachusetts.
	Robert Smiley, Holland, Pennsylvania.
	Gilbert Fraga in Los Angeles, California.
	Sherry Lone, Laurie, Laurie, Sherry Laurie in Seaholm, Victoria, Australia.
	Yeah.
	Dr.
	Java in Loveland, Colorado.
	Jeremy Goldsworthy in Midland, Michigan.
	Steven Spencer in Hubert, North Carolina.
	I wonder if it had to be Hubert, I'm not going to pronounce it Hubert.
	Robert...
	Ravinius in Rego Park, New York.
	I think it's Rego.
	Sir Dean Bertram in Beba Lake, Washington.
	Joey Gallo, I'm sorry, now we've dropped out.
	That dropped out.
	Actually, Donald Borowski is in Spokane Valley, Washington, 52-22.
	And then finally, we're getting to the end here, $52 from Joey Gallo, who's in Parts Unknown.
	I think it's a gulo.
	Oh, Gulo.
	Yes.
	I don't know.
	Gallo's a famous gangster.
	XVX Limited in Birmingham, UK. $50.
	These are going to be $50 donors.
	And he says, love you guys.
	Love you too.
	Gary Wiley in Squim, Washington.
	Yes?
	I said, I love you, mean it.
	That's what I said.
	Gary Wiley in Squim, Washington, 50.
	Dave was just up the street from me.
	Steve Winslow in Bristol, Avon.
	Daniel Niwong in someplace Sweden.
	I didn't know there was a town with a bunch of percent signs in the name.
	It's Borlange.
	Borlange.
	Diana Carruthers in Tumwater, Washington.
	Jeffrey Butch in Campbell, California.
	Michael Gates in Colorado Springs.
	Andrew Haverson in Gravenhurst, Ontario.
	And we're wrapping up with Mike William Granger in Marion, Indiana.
	Joel Daroon in Savannah, Georgia.
	Joshua Defabo.
	Defabo?
	Defabo?
	Defabo.
	Defabaugh in Watsonville, California.
	Rosalind Furness in Turnbridge Wells.
	Tunbridge Wells.
	Matthew Mongan in Baltimore.
	Rudkin Paul, or Paul Rudkin.
	Oh, it must be Paul Rudkin, because China would do it the other way around.
	In Shanghai.
	Hello, Shanghai!
	And finally, Sir Alan Bean in Oaktown, California, our regular.
	He comes in every month tried and true.
	He says he's always going to send his $50 check as long as the show maintains its quality.
	We try.
	A quick note here for John Leonard Sr.
	Now, he is of, I believe he's our...
	Golf cart dune buggy producer.
	Oh, yeah.
	We met up in Wichita when he was working.
	He lives in a travel trailer with his wife.
	And now I think he's in South Carolina.
	He said he'd emailed me about Julie Dombo It was a friend of John's Jr.
	who was shot in a recent robbery attempt at an AT&T store.
	And she's on the ropes and they have some crowdfunding going for her.
	So Google Julie Dombo AT&T shooting.
	And while we're at crowdfunding, we'll put a link to, I guess, is our boy, Void Zero, back in the hospital, or is he having trouble?
	No.
	No, that's what somebody sent me.
	What did they send you?
	I don't know.
	They said Void Zero's still in bad shape.
	No, I don't think so.
	Well, I mean, look, he's got Asperger's, he's got autism.
	Yeah, he's brilliant.
	Yeah, that's the way they are.
	Yeah, that's what you call brilliant.
	Brilliant, of course.
	I do have a note from Don Borowski, WA6OMI. Ah, 7 threes.
	Because he is going to be a knight today.
	I enclosed a special donation for a special occasion.
	If mailing time holds for past patterns, this donation should arrive in time for show 749.
	Now you missed it.
	My last donation came in support of show 742.
	I want to support all the shows since my last donation.
	This is my special donation.
	He's got his accounting.
	The donation puts me over the top for knighthood accounting, and please dub me Sir Donald of the Fire Bottles.
	Okay.
	And please be sure to include Cuban cigars.
	Now, wait a minute.
	Hold on a second.
	So this is a knighting?
	Yeah.
	I think it's on the list.
	Yeah?
	But not this including roundtable rewards.
	What is it?
	Well, that's why I'm reading it.
	I'm sorry.
	Go.
	Cuban cigars and single malt scotch.
	I think we already have that.
	Yeah, but he just wants to make sure you read it.
	Oh.
	I think your email was about Mr.
	Oil.
	Is that possible?
	No, maybe.
	The chat room is yelling at me.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, that was Mr.
	Oil.
	Okay, well, I retweeted it.
	Oh, okay.
	Then we have a make good for Sir Richard, Lord of the Lincoln and Law Libraries.
	He says, I donated money to join the Mile High Club.
	Wink wink.
	But when you read my donation, you missed two important points.
	First, it was given to my wonderful wife, Wendy's membership.
	Wink wink.
	Also, I am Sir and signed my donation as being from Sir Richard, Lord of Lincoln and Law Libraries.
	You simply read it as a commoner.
	Well, that is a faux pas.
	That was a mistake.
	Epic proportion.
	We apologize for that.
	We apologize.
	No commoners get rights and privileges.
	Okay.
	That's it.
	I'm glad we had a top exec producer today.
	That helps.
	Yeah, that did.
	We still have the Mile High Club open.
	And my birthday's coming up, John.
	Oh yeah, when is that birthday again?
	September 3rd.
	Okay, we'll do a special celebration.
	How old are you going to be?
	51.
	It's not really a special.
	Oh yeah, 51 is huge.
	Yeah, okay.
	And we'll do another show on Sunday, everybody.
	So please support us for the program.
	The things you hear on this show, you do not hear anywhere else.
	And they're very valid as deconstruction and theories.
	What?
	Sorry.
	And they always make you think.
	And keep you sane.
	Cue me when you're done, will you?
	Timing.
	I wish I could do a birthday thing.
	We have zero birthdays today.
	This is strange.
	It doesn't happen often.
	Sir Brian Hall becomes a baronet, as we previously noted.
	So the only thing left is to draw the slow of the swords.
	Get your blade out, Johnny boy.
	Head gums.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Donald Borowski, step on up to the podium.
	Thank you very much, sir, for your support of the best podcast in the universe.
	You might have won $1,000 or more, and we are very, very proud to welcome you to the roundtable of the Night and the Dames, and we hereby pronounce the K-Thieves.
	Sir Donald of the Fire Bottle.
	For you, my friend, we have hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, Cuban cigars and single malt scotch, cheap wine and chili dogs, pork ribs and pale ale, Johnny Walker green label, video games and vaporizers, root beer and pepperoni pizza, malt of barley and hops, Hookers and molly, cannabis and cabernet.
	Breast milk and pablum and mutton and mead.
	There you go.
	And go to noagendanation.com slash rings.
	If you're trying to get into your account there, I read a note that Eric is something with a database and he's working on that.
	You might want to remind him to do that, John, since you're managing the staff at the show.
	Yeah, I'll get on it right away.
	I don't want to have a big thing written up about me in New York Times.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	There you go.
	There's your jobs, Carm, everybody.
	And since we're here...
	Now entering second half of show.
	That's right.
	Second half of show.
	And I was going to do this anyway, but I see you have a clip.
	I do?
	You have a clip.
	I'm going to play the clip.
	Okay, play.
	Oh, yeah.
	Here it comes.
	How would you like to take an elevator into space?
	A Canadian company just received a patent for one.
	The space elevator works by inflating gas cells that extend in stages.
	It would carry people, cargo, and even commercial space planes up 12.4 miles.
	Engineers say the elevator could eliminate the need for a costly rocket launch from the ground.
	They also envision hotels and restaurants atop their elevator one day.
	No word on when the $5 billion space elevator would be built, but they are working on a mile-long version for demonstration purposes.
	I challenge this patent.
	I challenge this patent.
	And with prior art on this very program, the space elevator was invented here.
	Okay.
	And now all of a sudden they're taking credit for it and they're getting a whole patent?
	No, no, no, no.
	Well...
	They probably patent it for some specific thing they're doing to make it go up.
	Now, this is bogus, of course.
	This is some scam for people who think they're space elevators.
	You've heard my pitch.
	There's no way a good wind comes along.
	They're doing it the wrong way.
	You've got to go up to the moon base and drop the elevator down, not try to build it up.
	That would be a ladder.
	This thing is supposed to be up.
	They would say we're going to have restaurants and people can look around.
	It's 60,000 feet.
	You're going to have to have an oxygen bottle.
	You can't breathe.
	I guarantee we're going to have a Richard Branson version of this and we'll have a bunch of other yahoos and they'll have some kind of astronaut advisors.
	Isn't another one of these scams just like your space flight?
	It's more of the scam of the level of the Mars thing.
	Yeah, but there's no reality show tied to it.
	Oh, well, there's that.
	Good point.
	Anyway, the one mile high one would be actually amusing because that's where it'll blow over and it's like it's going nowhere.
	Yeah.
	Where are you going to put it?
	Where are you going to put it where there's no wind?
	I don't know.
	It structurally cannot be done.
	Frank Lloyd Wright, though, designed a one-mile-high building that he's very famous for.
	And the way it was designed by an architect who knows what he's doing, it's possible to do this building.
	And he's dead now, of course.
	But it was designed to be in Chicago.
	It was going to be one mile high.
	And I've seen his plans for it.
	It's actually quite interesting.
	I think it could be done.
	I don't know if I'd want to be in the building, but it can be done.
	With a parachute, maybe.
	Yes.
	I just don't understand why people in those upper floors don't keep parachutes by their desk.
	There were two competing articles, one in the Los Angeles Times and one in the Washington Post.
	I actually have a clip.
	NBC did a little, just the intro of the clip from this study that was...
	Published in the Washington Post.
	According to a new study in the American Journal of Epidemiology, joining a religious group does more for someone sustained happiness than other forms of social participation.
	The study found religion led to the greatest mental health benefits.
	It also lessened depression and helped the sick better cope with their illnesses.
	I thought that was interesting.
	Now, this study was minimal, as usual.
	I think it was also done amongst 9,000 Europeans who were older than 50.
	Well, yeah, I think your demographic may be a little skewed there to just blatantly say religion makes you happier, but...
	Bless you.
	Valid.
	They looked at four areas.
	One, volunteering or working with a charity.
	The second one was taking an educational course, participating in religious organizations, or participating in political or community organization.
	Of the four, Participating in a religious organization was the only social activity associated with sustained happiness.
	In fact, they found people who volunteer, actually, there's no evidence it leads to better mental health.
	It actually kind of stresses them out more.
	Get depressed.
	I didn't realize.
	That's not so good.
	The only thing they left out, there's one major thing they left out of the study.
	What's that?
	The No Agenda Show, of course.
	Obviously.
	Listening to the No Agenda show will make you much happier.
	You're absolutely right.
	And then Professor Russ, you remember Professor Russ was the brain professor here at UT, and he moved to California, foolishly, to go work in Stanford.
	He's living in a one-bedroom apartment, pretty much, as a professor.
	Yeah, he can't afford it.
	Yeah, typical.
	The prices here are a little high.
	And this was from the LA Times, that bastion of truth.
	And I'll just read the opening.
	This is a Pew Research Center study from 2012.
	More children are growing up godless than at any other time in our nation's history.
	They are the offspring of an expanding secular population that includes a relatively new and burgeoning category of Americans called the nuns.
	N-O-N-E-S.
	The nuns.
	So nicknamed because they identify themselves as believing in nothing in particular.
	I'll just read the opening.
	And the study shows that morality and proper functioning in community is just perfectly fine without religion.
	And so the professor does something very interesting on the Facebooks, and he says, Ha ha ha ha!
	See?
	Crazy religious fuckers!
	And so I said, hey, you know, it's pretty good.
	And I made a mistake.
	I thought I would agree with him to some extent and say, you know, science is the new religion.
	We've talked about this many times.
	He lost his shit.
	And all kinds of other professors are jumping on me like, oh, that's very funny.
	Someone who's not a scientist telling a scientist what to do.
	It was insane, John.
	This whole thread of professors jumping on me.
	Where I wind up going, hey man, I'm just a DJ, okay?
	All I know is the Pope is all in on this.
	What were they complaining about?
	That I said science is the new religion.
	It pisses them off to no end.
	Why?
	I'm baffled by it.
	You can't make a comparison to religion and science.
	They're such atheists.
	Yes, here you go.
	The way I see it.
	They believe that the only type of religion, the only type of religion, is one that says, there's a magical guy in the sky, and if you don't do what he says, you're going to burn in a magical, fiery pit in the middle of the earth.
	That is not all religion.
	At all.
	At all.
	And here's smart.
	This smart guy is a professor at Stanford is yelling.
	They're all in on this culture.
	But I was surprised.
	Don't they want science to be the new religion?
	Because once you say science is a new religion, then I think it triggers a whole...
	It's a trigger.
	Yes.
	It's a trigger.
	It must be warned.
	They should have a sign.
	Trigger warning.
	Because you're offended and you make microaggressions.
	Yeah.
	You've offended them.
	You were offensive.
	You should be shouted down, you bad person.
	I should actually read a little bit of this.
	Hold on a second.
	Where is this thing here?
	Oh, and then his wife jumped in, and she just changed Godwin's law, as far as I'm concerned.
	She called you Hitler?
	Yep, except in a different way.
	I'm going to find it for you.
	Hold on a second.
	Well, I want to hear this.
	Yeah.
	These were your friends.
	Yeah.
	They must still listen to the show once in a while and it just galls them.
	It probably galls them because we play clips while you're looking for that.
	Like this one, which is...
	I have it.
	Let me say what it is.
	So his wife, Jennifer Ott, who is the reason he's in California because she needed to be an interior designer in a bigger market...
	She says, careful honey, Adam might get all ISIS on your ass.
	Those effers hate science.
	So she called me ISIS. Because they're science haters and so are you.
	And I said, I hereby declare Godwin's law replaced by Ott's law.
	Her name is Jennifer Ott.
	Hey, why don't you have the same last name as your husband?
	Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
	Feminist.
	Crazy white feminist.
	White feminist.
	And her reply is, that's a great idea.
	I haven't even read this, but here's her reply.
	That's a great idea, Adam.
	I should make up and start my very own religion.
	I'm a good writer.
	I'm a great bullshitter.
	And I could use the extra cash I'd bring in.
	These driverless cars don't also pay for themselves, you know.
	But I think I'll make it the men who get stoned to death when a marriage breaks up.
	So watch your back.
	I mean, these are smart people.
	And they're doing this in public.
	Oh, I know.
	That's what's strange about it.
	It's just like...
	Here.
	Religion, says the professor.
	There is this invisible person in the sky who is all good, though he lets bad things happen to people to test them.
	You must believe this unless you want to spend eternity in a fiery hellhole.
	Science?
	Mr.
	X... I'm sorry to tell you that you are infected with the HIV virus 25 years ago.
	This would have been a death sentence.
	But because biologists understand how viruses work, there are now drugs that can allow you to live a good life, albeit with a chronic disease.
	That doesn't sound similar to me, Curry!
	Damn, man.
	And I came back and said, no, science.
	You will never see snow again.
	The earth will become a fiery hell and you will drown in coastal floods unless you stop your evil ways of farting, exhaling, driving, heating, and eating cows.
	Sounds pretty religious to me, Russ.
	That doesn't sound any more religious than the earth is round or bodies with mass exert gravitational force.
	I mean, come on!
	Anyway, it's funny.
	If you have one of these people all in, just say, science is the new religion, and watch them freak out.
	That's the damnedest thing I've ever heard.
	Isn't it, though?
	Isn't it, though?
	Yeah.
	But there's all kinds of...
	You know, if they were a normal person, when you say something that they think is just idiotic, they would go, meh, whatever, who cares what you think?
	Or at least call me a Republican like they usually do.
	That would be, you know, acceptable in one case.
	Republican.
	See, the reason why is the article said, non-religious families raise children with solid values.
	And he quoted a piece from it in his posting.
	Many non-religious parents are more coherent and passionate about their ethical principles than some of the, quote, religious parents in our study.
	The vast majority appeared to live goal-filled lives characterized by moral direction and sense of having a purpose.
	And I said, well, you know, vast majority and appeared don't sound very scientific to me.
	What kind of study is that when you say appeared?
	That's like allegedly.
	Oh, man.
	Well, if you're going to bring up these issues of morality and all the rest of it, where did these morals come from initially?
	They came from religion.
	Yes, of course they did.
	I mean, the most...
	Thank you.
	I don't need a religion to know not to kill people.
	Yeah.
	Well, maybe you do.
	Yeah, here's Ben Carson, who, for the first time that I've heard, this is the presidential candidate or Republican nominee candidate.
	Right?
	We can always call him the smartest guy in the room, because he probably is.
	Yeah, I think he is.
	And so here's a guy who is a...
	Now, if you're a doctor, does that fall under science, or you cannot say that's science?
	It's science.
	No, it's not.
	In fact, according to the professor, when I said we worship our phones, we worship technology, we worship the companies that make them, we idolize the leaders of these companies, we are all in on a belief that the self-driving car will be safe.
	And he came back and said, that has nothing to do with science.
	That's technology.
	I'm like, wow, you should talk to Neil deGrasse Tyson.
	He doesn't agree with that.
	Why do you get into these debates?
	I don't usually, but this is my friend, or was my friend.
	He hates you because you might have some religious leanings.
	Yeah, he said, what kind of Christians do you hang out with, Adam?
	Well, some really nice ones, actually.
	Sorry to say.
	Here's Ben Carson.
	We have to stop listening to these people who tell us that we cannot talk about God, we cannot talk about our faith.
	I wonder...
	I wonder...
	Do they realize that our founding document, our Declaration of Independence, talked about certain inalienable rights given to us by our Creator, a.k.a.
	God?
	Do they know that the Pledge of Allegiance to our flag says we are one nation under God?
	That many courtrooms on the wall, it says, in God we trust.
	Every coin in our pocket, every bill in our wallet says, in God we trust.
	So if it's in our founding documents, it's in our pledge, it's in our courts, and it's on our money, but we're not supposed to talk about it.
	What in the world is that?
	In medicine we call it schizophrenia, a form of craziness.
	And you know, it's time.
	It's time for us to realize that there is nothing wrong with living by godly principles of loving your fellow man, caring about your neighbor, developing your God-given talents to the utmost so that you become valuable to the people around you, having values and principles that govern your life.
	And if we do that, not only will we remain a pinnacle nation, but we will truly have one nation under God.
	You know, and I'm okay with all this.
	I mean, I even said in this lengthy thread, the only problem I have with religion is the lack of humor.
	If religion had some humor in it, if they had some guys running some fun shows, which I actually have seen a couple here in Austin.
	I went to the very, very religious church, the Austin Stone.
	Is that a big church?
	It's huge.
	They have 8,000 people in this church.
	Every Sunday, and I've been three times now after the show, the first time was really just to see what it would be like.
	Did we talk about this on the show?
	I don't think we did.
	Did we?
	No, we talked about megachurches and how they're worth understanding.
	They have a lot of, they do what we do.
	They get support from the community.
	Right.
	So it's nice to know how they do it because they do it better than we do it.
	Well, so the Austin Stone, which is, they have the Sunday afternoon service in Austin High School, in the auditorium, the basketball, you know, it's huge.
	And they have a band, and the band is, it's like, sounds like U2, and kick ass sound, really excellent sound.
	The show is well put together.
	I could do without the, you know, he died for your sins and all that, and Jesus, praise Jesus, and people are holding their hands up with their eyes closed.
	Maybe I'm missing something.
	I'm just, I don't, I'm not feeling that.
	Yeah, that's the Pentecostal style that has become so popular, I don't care for it much.
	So I'm not feeling that at all, but the pastors are young guys, they relate, you know, they relate themselves to sinners, to the sins they commit.
	You know, and it's really, it is, it's a morality lesson.
	You know, the whole thing, but, you know, Jesus died for your sins.
	Like, okay, so that's just your given thing.
	I'll take that.
	Whatever.
	So, what are you saying is I can be a sinner.
	And the guy was funny!
	And then the next time they had a guest preacher, some black guy from, and he was a stutterer.
	But he had overcome his stuttering by talking really fast and throwing stuff out there.
	It was just like, wow, and it was cracking up the whole time.
	It was great.
	And it gave me some pause to think about things.
	I know I'm not, you know, the whole guy in the sky thing, but it would do the professor some good.
	And then the third time was a JIP because that was, you know, trying to get you to become a partner and give them 10% of all your money.
	Yeah, well, that's some of those shirts pushed out a lot.
	It was a donation drive.
	I didn't like that, and I didn't like that part at all.
	Anyway.
	Well, you're not a regular.
	No, I'm not a regular.
	If you were a regular, you'd probably be all in.
	Most people, you know, they subscribe, they say, okay, I'm in, I'm going to, what do you need?
	Okay, here it is.
	Well, the thing I was going to play in the meantime, which I was kind of part of the thing, it's like lost its timing, but I still want to play it.
	Please, I'm sorry about that.
	Is the Thom Hartman little clip, which is just another one, another forehead slapper.
	Only they've introduced a new term.
	If things keep going the way they're going, 2015 will end up beating out last year, 2014, as the hottest year on record.
	A more powerful than usual El Nino pattern in the Pacific is playing a role in raising global average temperatures this year.
	Many scientists now think we've reached a turning point in the fight against climate change.
	They think that we've now reached the big jump, the moment at which global warming really takes off.
	Oh, John, this could not be better.
	Because I have a clip that fits into this precisely.
	The big jump?
	The question is, what is the big jump and why is this going to be so great for climate science?
	And there is an organization, the IRI, International Research Institute for Climate Change, which is a Columbia University in partnership with the NOAA, the National Oceanographic Atmosphere.
	Thank you.
	And I don't know why they did this, but here is, what's his name?
	I don't have his name handy.
	He explains why climate scientists are happy with El Nino.
	Although El Nino can mean negative or positive things for various folks across the globe, From my climate scientist point of view, it's a positive.
	Why?
	Because we get better climate prediction scores for seasonal averages when we have an El Nino or a La Nina.
	Now, let's just review what he said.
	That when there's an El Nino or La Nina, they get better climate prediction scores, which I equate to we are right more often than we usually are, because the El Nino is more predictable, and that makes him happy.
	Because we get better climate prediction scores for seasonal averages when we have an El Nino or a La Nina, we're correct.
	More than the usual proportion of the time when there's an El Nino or La Nina.
	Because when we don't have one of those, we get a lot of random fluctuations that are not predictable.
	We have some other predictable influences.
	El Nino and La Nina are the strongest factor in the climate system on the seasonal time scale for predictability.
	So we know where and when it's probably going to be rainier or drier than normal when we have an El Nino.
	So from my point of view, we're showing our worth as scientists more reliably when we have an El Nino or La Nina than when we don't have one.
	Even though some people won't get a good deal out of this El Nino, it'll be too dry or whatever.
	Yeah, it won't fit in with all your other bull crap.
	I'm happy, and I'm hoping that we can do a good job predicting at least the negative and positive impacts across the globe because of this El Nino event, which could very likely become a strong one.
	And he hedges it right there.
	So yeah, of course, that's why they're happy.
	Oh, our scores will be better.
	We can predict it more accurately.
	Yeah.
	Very funny.
	Less than 10 minutes to go.
	Okay?
	I'd almost give you a borderline clip of the day, but it's borderline, borderline.
	Oh.
	Okay, let's get one thing to talk about.
	Mm-hmm.
	So it'll only be...
	I can easily beat the 10-minute deadline.
	Mm-hmm.
	So there's this thing on Amazon, and actually Eric Cole, because he noticed there's stories up in Seattle about it.
	Yeah, this is the horrible operation.
	Was this the piece in the New York Times about Amazon?
	Right, and my initial thing was this little battle in the New York Times and the Washington Post, and I looked up Washington Post.
	I went to the Washington Post site, looked up New York Times to see what there was.
	There was a little sniping going on, but it wasn't enough to really explain the whole thing.
	I mean, it was enough if you're really picky, but it wasn't enough.
	To paraphrase, the Washington Post article, which I read, or the New York Times article, which I read, said, Amazon is a shit company.
	They treat people like dirt.
	People cry.
	They're just destroyed human beings, and they're underpaid, overworked, and Jeff Bezos.
	And they're just a horrible operation.
	Well, let's play a couple of the TV clips that had this.
	And then I've got one with a kicker, which I'm telling you, when you hear what's on that clip, you're going to crack up.
	Okay.
	Let's start with Amazon on NBC1 to give us a little background.
	The world's largest retailer, Amazon, is firing back after a scathing report depicted it as a bruising workplace.
	It's described as a cutthroat corporate jungle where workers are pitted against one another.
	80-hour work weeks are the norm, and falling ill can mean you're out of a job.
	But let's step back for a moment.
	Is it really that intense?
	Tonight, former employees give their side to our Cynthia McFadden.
	So we can go and listen to her talking.
	You can cut this off whenever you want.
	But NBC was sympathetic toward the big company because of the General Electric thing.
	And they also know where their bread's buttered.
	And they also, you know, they didn't want to slam the New York Times too much.
	They just seemed to...
	Do a better job than CBS. Actually, CBS did a pretty...
	I take it back.
	ABC is the one who went after them.
	NBC defended them a bit.
	And NBC also hates Hillary.
	So I'm noticing all these things as I watch these stupid shows.
	So let's hear the NBC Extended 2.
	Amazon may have one of just about everything on its massive shelves.
	This, one of its many fulfillment centers, the size of 28 football fields.
	The company has become the most highly valued retailer in the world, outranking Walmart.
	But as other tech companies outdo each other with employee benefits, for example, Netflix recently announced it would give a year-long parental leave to male and female employees.
	An article in Sunday's New York Times Hold on a second.
	Has Netflix made a profit ever?
	No.
	Who suggests Amazon?
	Has Amazon.
	Amazon makes a very, very small profit, and that is why they are so valuable.
	Their market cap is big.
	Not as big as the investors would like to see it.
	That's why they kicked Walmart's ass.
	They're happy with almost no profit.
	Contrary direction.
	There is definitely a sense from people that we talk to that Amazon does not really care about their personal lives.
	You can't reveal any weaknesses or you will be in trouble.
	Even an Amazon recruitment video acknowledges it isn't the work environment for everyone.
	You love it or you don't.
	There is no middle ground, really.
	The Times recount several alarming anecdotes from former employees.
	From one who said, nearly every person I work with, I saw cry at their desk.
	Men included.
	To a woman who miscarried twins but went on a business trip the next day.
	Her boss, she says, told her, I'm sorry, the work is still going to need to get done.
	And another woman who had thyroid cancer and was given a low performance rating after she returned from treatment.
	But today, Nadia Shorbor told us in her nine years as an executive at Amazon, that's not what she saw.
	When I read the article, it sounded absolutely horrible, but it just didn't resonate with the company I worked for for many years.
	In a CNBC documentary last year, John Rossman and Randy Miller, former executives at Amazon, said CEO Jeff Bezos does set a high bar.
	He has a low tolerance for thinking small, acting small, or not being extremely sharp.
	Or rationalizing.
	If you start giving rationalizations and excuses.
	Or pointing the other direction.
	He'll just, he'll slash you to shreds.
	He's got a very effective, sarcastic bent.
	But that certainly wasn't the tone Bezos took in an email yesterday to his 150,000 employees, telling them he wouldn't want to work for the company described by the Times and saying, quote, hopefully you don't recognize the company described.
	Hopefully you're having fun with a bunch of brilliant teammates helping invent the future and laughing along the way.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I didn't mind listening to the whole thing.
	What's the point?
	Well, I've come to the conclusion by doing the simplest, another search besides the New York Times, this is the unions.
	Ah, they wanted to unionize the shop.
	And if you go unions versus Amazon on the Google, you will get all you need to know.
	And that's what's going on.
	It's the unions.
	They have a lot of good public relations companies.
	They're going after them.
	All the newspapers, including the New York Times, are pretty much unionized.
	Unionized union shops, yep.
	And it doesn't take much to get, you know, to get these stories started if you have a public relations agency working that.
	Good catch, John.
	Good catch.
	They had a guy, a woman from the New York Times on the Charlie Rose, with Charlie Rose on the, I think it was in the morning show.
	But here's the Amazon story with the kicker.
	Now, you're going to find this clip, which is my last clip of the day.
	We'll see if it's clip of the day.
	I didn't say.
	I said it's my last clip of the day today.
	Okay.
	I suppose in some subtext, I said clip of the day within that phrase.
	You did.
	But that's how I was aiming at it, because I don't know if it qualifies, but there's a point in here that you will crack up.
	Others said Amazon regularly downsizes its staff, and one said his enduring image was watching people cry in the office.
	Times reporter and CBS News contributor Jody Cantor described the paper's findings on CBS this morning.
	For example, we did hear about people who felt they were evaluated too harshly, people who suffered from cancer and serious pregnancy loss, who were evaluated very quickly after those things happened.
	Amazon executive and former White House Press Secretary Jay Carney responded.
	Hold on a second.
	Hold on a second.
	Jay Carney is now an Amazon executive?
	He's the spokeshole.
	Oh, you know what that is?
	That's Borderline Clip of the Day.
	Borderline Clip of the Day.
	I want to finish it though.
	Fundamental flaw in the story is the suggestion that any company that had the kind of culture that the New York Times wrote about and sort of a cruel Darwinian or Dickensian kind of atmosphere in the workplace could survive and thrive in today's marketplace.
	Is there no paid paternity leave at Amazon?
	There isn't, but neither is there at about 80% of U.S. companies, which, you know, the New York Times didn't note.
	We checked on that, and it's true.
	80% of U.S. companies do not have a paid paternity leave policy.
	Now, Charlie, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos said that what he called the shockingly callous management practices referenced in the story do not reflect the company that he knows.
	Thanks, Anna.
	Yeah.
	Hey, Carney!
	Douchebag!
	It's too bad.
	I like Amazon as a company.
	I know lots of people who work there who are happy.
	Please, whatever you do, don't talk about Apple and how their employees, the ones they employ indirectly in China, are still committing suicide.
	Yes.
	It's like, you know, the children with their fingers bleeding.
	You can't unionize those guys in China, so what difference is it?
	Exactly.
	I have an Amazon story as my last clip, and this comes to us from Bridget Carey.
	Are you familiar with Bridget Carey?
	Bridget Carey.
	I would have thought you would have known.
	She is a CNET girl.
	A little CNET chicky.
	She looks like she's four feet tall.
	You've got to look at her.
	She has that tech girl kind of look.
	The hair is too long for her body.
	Take a look at her for a second here.
	Bridget.
	C-A-R-U-I? Yeah.
	Bridget Carey.
	And, you know, she has a kind of a tech face.
	Tech face.
	Look at the face and tell me that's not a tech face.
	It's in there with the tech faces.
	Yeah, totally.
	Female tech face.
	Right?
	Yeah, it's kind of a cross between Callie Lewis and...
	Molly Wood.
	Molly Wood and two or three others.
	And she would look great if she cut her hair.
	Her hair is too long for her body type.
	The hair, yeah.
	But she has a big head, which is always successful on television compared to her body.
	She's got a big head.
	All right.
	She does a little thing here on the Amazon dash buttons.
	And these are the buttons that you put it near your washing powder.
	I wrote a whole column on this condemning it.
	Oh, what was your condemnation?
	Stupid.
	Okay.
	But I found something I really liked in these.
	Last week, Amazon began selling its new concept for shopping.
	Doesn't she have a tech girl voice?
	Last week, Amazon began selling its new concept for shopping at the touch of a button.
	The Amazon Dash buttons are little plastic wireless pods you can hang or stick anywhere in the home.
	And the idea is that when you're running out of a certain product, you would press the button to have Amazon automatically ship more of that product to your door.
	There are 18 different branded buttons, and I ordered six to try out.
	Tide, Glad, Cottonelle, Bounty, Gillette, and Kraft macaroni and cheese.
	Because who doesn't need a mac and cheese panic button?
	Glad gives you 20 choices of garbage bags.
	And there are 16 different types of mac and cheese, including something called cheddar explosion and one with ninja turtle shapes.
	All good things in a cheese crisis.
	Living the mac and cheese life.
	Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand.
	Okay, that is Clip of the Day.
	Never mind, Borderland.
	Just give it to yourself.
	I wasn't even playing.
	Screw it.
	You're a kind man.
	You are a kind man.
	Clip of the Day.
	A mac and cheese crisis.
	The other complaint I had in this column was if you're like, people are so damn busy that you need this button.
	And so you got the button, you order more tight.
	What if you want to try something different?
	But that's beside the point.
	If you're like, say, a family and you got some toddler roaming around, they see this button.
	What do kids do when they see buttons?
	They push them.
	They push them.
	They always push them.
	I don't care whose kid it is.
	If they can push a button, they see a button, they can reach it and push it, they push it.
	You'll come up with boatloads of tide out in the front porch.
	I mean, big push, push, push.
	Daddy, why does it make any noise when I push it?
	It should make a little ding-dong sound, shouldn't it?
	Oh, then the kids would be going crazy.
	Dogs would be pushing it.
	Cats.
	All righty.
	Why don't you play the little clip I got here that says thanks, John.
	Okay.
	I'll play it right at the end.
	How's that sound?
	Okay, do it.
	All right.
	I'll play it at the end.
	All right, everybody.
	I'm going to Chicago for the weekend.
	I'll be back.
	Well, I'll actually be back Saturday.
	And I'll have stories from Chicago.
	Chicago.
	Chicago, that's right.
	Until then, coming to you from the Crackpot Condo here in downtown Austin, the capital of the Drone Star State.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda.
	Adios, mofos.
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	You know, I am very torn about it.
	I want a woman on Bill.
	I don't know why they picked Bill.
	You know, I want a woman on Bill.
	And I think that...
	And I don't like the idea that as a compromise, you would basically have two people on Bill.
	One would be a woman.
	That sounds pretty second-class to me.
	So I think a woman should have Bill.
	I'm gonna kill Bill.
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