It's bootstrapping on its own complexity in an exponential way.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
And Sunday, February 15, 2015, time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, episode 696.
This is no agenda.
Fighting the new world order with nothing but a compass and a rubber knife.
Live from FEMA Region 6 in Austin, Texas, in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, we're having the truth about the origins of double nickels on the dime.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
Yeah.
That is the most important thing.
I think so.
You got the truth.
You know, the most important thing is why does this, you know...
So I have...
This is like I have two problems in my life.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Only two?
Well, two that are consistent throughout since I was a little kid to now.
Okay.
One, I lose every flashlight I've ever owned.
I believe that there's a flashlight graveyard.
Flashlights are in it.
I think we've talked about this.
It's right near the socks.
The other one is I lose all the staplers.
Really?
Yes.
I finally found one so I could staple some of these things I get here.
And then this stapler, which seems like a nice enough stapler, made by...
Is it a red one?
I had one of those and lost it.
The red stapler.
This one, we're getting a little stapler.
I'm going to burn the place down.
Burn down the agenda show.
So this stapler doesn't work.
Oh, man.
It doesn't work.
I'm sorry.
How does a stapler even malfunction?
It doesn't just...
It's so simple.
It's such a simple mechanism.
I'm looking at it here.
It doesn't make any sense.
Well, normally what I would do is I would ask Echo.
And Echo would answer.
Who's Echo?
Alexa.
Alexa?
Yeah, I got my Amazon spy device in.
Oh man, stapler stinks.
Now the stapler's stuck to all the papers.
I got my Amazon eavesdropping.
Oh, you bought that stupid piece of crap.
Let me tell you something.
Have you tried it out?
I've never even seen one.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
So you think I'm judgmental.
No, why would I ever say that?
What evidence can I base that on?
I don't know.
I have to say, if this thing were made by Apple and they made it white or titanium, people would be shitting themselves over it.
You think?
I know.
People, the fanboys would be crapping themselves.
Well, Apple blew it.
They totally do.
They probably would have picked it up.
John, they totally blew it.
I have to say, this thing...
Okay, why don't you explain to people what this is that you're talking about.
Okay, so it's a black cylindrical tube with very fancy colored light ring on top.
That's pretty much all it is, but it's also a speaker.
And you plug it in, you set it up, which is fairly simple.
It sounds like something they tried to sell to Google, because it sounds like a Google device already.
I play a lot with, now that I'm all in, of course, I'm trying to figure out what works and where the money is being made.
So Siri, meh.
Okay, it's okay, but you still have to either hold down the button or say, hey Siri, and you have to wait for it to activate.
That's the thing that is the most bothersome, I think, just from a user interface perspective.
Then you have Google, which, okay Google, even that, just okay Google, but it's limited in what it can do.
This thing...
Oh, John.
First of all, you don't have to wait for activation.
You just say Alexa and you keep on talking and then it parses that really quickly.
Stopping music, starting music, playing stuff.
The thing that I like the most is adding something to a to-do list, which then shows up in an app on your phone.
That's the thing that I really like.
I'm always walking around, oh, I gotta get this, I gotta do this, I gotta put this on the shopping list.
It really works.
It's like you're from the future with this thing.
I'm telling you, if it had an Apple logo on it, everyone would be crapping themselves.
And you say it from across the room.
Just in a normal voice in this thing figures it out.
Which of course means that it's spying on me all the time.
This we know.
So I want to see what kind of advertising, advertisements or whatever I start showing up.
Or whatever offers, I guess.
Amazon would be offering me things.
Have you had it long enough to know?
No.
I only got back from New York yesterday.
And the thing was sitting there waiting for...
Did you order one or did they just send you one?
No, I ordered one.
It was 99 bucks for Prime members.
And I think I got mine much earlier than most for some reason.
You think it's worth 99 bucks?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, again, it's sitting here spying on me.
Let's make no mistake.
But with the things they could enhance, it really is, I have to say, very intriguing.
It's the first voice-activated system I've liked.
Where you're not, you know, throughout history of devices, it's going to be so simple and everything's going to work perfectly.
And it never is.
And just the fact that I have to wake up things by giving it a keyword and then wait for it to activate.
This thing, you just say its name and then you keep going and it figures out what you want.
Well, that's a keyword.
It has to be activated.
Yeah, but you don't have to wait for it to say, yes, I'm ready.
You just say the name and you keep going and it parses that.
And it does cute little things.
What's the thing's name again?
It's Amazon Echo.
What's the key word, Amazon Echo?
No, it's Alexa.
Alexa, turn off!
It does some interesting, cute things where if it's playing music and you say, you know, what's the weather?
As an example of something that I couldn't figure out any other way, of course.
No, no, it's impossible.
It does do a nice, like, it lowers the volume of the music and mixes the weather report over it and then, you know, then mixes the music back up.
It's all these little things that I'm very intrigued.
So the music's coming out of this box?
I'm sorry?
The music's coming out of this box?
Yeah, which is...
So has that fidelity?
Would I sound pretty much like the box right there?
No.
It sounds okay.
The Sonos is better.
In fact, that's what you want.
You want this in the Sonos.
And of course, you can't do things like your Spotify playlist and...
Well, can't you...
Here, here.
Can't you take and take...
It seems to me.
You'd have this thing and it's got some output jacks and you hook it up to a real stereo system.
I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish.
It doesn't.
It doesn't have a jack out.
I wish.
And I think that's because...
You have to listen to those cheesy little speakers?
John, it's not cheesy little speakers.
You're just being a dick.
Yeah, it's not cheesy little speakers.
Oh, they're big 12-inch.
Is there a 12-inch woofer involved?
Oh, fuck you.
Okay, I'm sorry I brought it up.
All right, never mind.
No, I'm telling you that it doesn't sound that bad, and you're making it sound like it's cheesy shit.
I'm surprised.
I'm being honest.
I'm surprised by what it can do.
That's all.
Okay, let's go back.
I'm sorry I demeaned it for not having a 12-inch woofer, but let's start with this.
What does it do besides the weather?
Okay, wait, wait.
I'm not going to do a review of the box.
The list is good.
I'm not going to do a review of the box.
I'm just saying that I'm impressed with the voice recognition technology and parsing natural language.
I'm impressed with it.
That is sending a...
Sending your voice, whatever it records, and then sending it to, like, maybe India, and somebody's saying, oh, I know what he wants to say.
No, no, it's very fast, and...
You think it's inside the box.
No, I think that it is sending everything adheres to wherever it needs to go all the time.
I don't really think that the box itself is doing any of this.
I think literally there's a stream of sound in my house going to Amazon 24-7.
I don't see how else they could do it.
Well, I don't see how else they could do it either, but then on the other hand, I don't see how they can handle all the streams.
I mean, I know they've got a huge server farm, S3, whatever it is.
But that's a lot of bandwidth to be sucking up constantly.
The Amazon web services, most of today's internet services run on it.
This is very big.
This is not just a server farm.
This is huge infrastructure.
I'm saying, again, I'm not going to review this box because it's dumb.
I sit there and I'm asking this fucking thing to read the weather to me.
Right, I get it.
It's not all that great.
I do like it really understanding what I want added to a to-do list.
That's interesting because that proves how the voice recognition and interaction works.
It is better than Google is better than Apple Siri.
It's just good.
That's all.
I think this is the beginning of the end.
I tell you, I said yes.
I said, Alexa, play the latest No Agenda episode.
And I swear to God, 695 started playing.
No.
Yes.
Yes.
And it picks it up through, I think, TuneIn Radio.
And it understood No Agenda show.
It understood the latest episode.
And it's actually started playing.
That was trippy, man.
Huh.
All right.
I'm reminded of Jacques Elluel, the great French sociologist who wrote the book The Technological Society, a book I recommend to everybody, along with one of his other great books called Propaganda, which is very interesting.
Oh, it's a great book.
And he had this large thesis about how the technological society was going to kill us all for all practical purposes, predated Kaczynski.
Right.
And he had this how it's going to do it and what it's going to do and how the technologists are going to take over the world and the technocrats will determine what's good and bad for us all.
And he maintained this.
And then some years later in his life, I think he got a PC and he was after that all in.
That was the end of him.
I'm not all in, but I feel like I am...
Yeah, you're all in.
Really?
Oh, yeah.
Fine, I don't have a problem with it.
No, I'm not all in.
I'm actually canary in the coal mine.
If I start to choke, then, you know, get out.
Yeah, well...
Alright, if they bring the price down to $49.99, maybe I'd try one of those things.
I don't like something just listening in on me.
Of course not!
You can't unplug it, and you can also...
There's a button on the device that apparently mutes it.
You gotta wonder.
Yeah.
You really gotta wonder.
Pretend to be muted.
Okay.
Already.
Alright.
Well, I'll see if I can...
I tried plugging in here and I was going to do a little demo.
Screw it.
I'm not selling shit for Amazon.
You're not getting paid for that.
As a service to our listeners, I have to say that I think I'm one of the first people with this.
And before any other tech show comes out, I wanted to jump on it.
By the way, I just got to notice CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia on lockdown for an unknown reason.
Right now?
As we speak.
Huh.
I don't know why.
I don't know what's going on.
Well, maybe they all go out to their cars and listen to the No Agenda show.
All right, boys, lock it down.
Crackpot and Buzzkiller on.
Let's go!
Yeah.
So I'm back from New York.
I'm glad I'm back from New York, actually.
Well, you had fun in New York.
I did, but it was so cold.
That was abnormal.
You couldn't really do much.
I did go to an outstanding restaurant, which was the, it's new or relatively new, the Empire Bar and Grill in the Empire State Building itself.
What was floor?
Ground floor.
Oh, okay.
On the street side.
And it was really, it was nice because I was talking to the manager who also does the wine list or whatever.
Did you give him a disc?
It's a her.
No.
Did you give her a disc?
No.
However, I did fill out the survey card that she said, would you mind filling out this survey about our service?
And she did email me back and I wanted to share that with you.
We wanted to screw you.
Hi Adam, it was really great meeting you tonight.
I've always been a fan.
What?
I like it when it starts out like that.
And I'm glad that you had a nice dinner and you enjoyed the wine and the service.
We'll do our best to work on getting more strippers, but I think there might be a few more conversations needed before that will happen.
And I'd put that on the...
A little humor there.
I'd put that on the cards.
What can we do to improve?
Strippers?
Strippers.
You put that on all the cards.
Of course.
Of course.
That would improve my experience tremendously.
Yeah.
Okay.
Here's the way I thought you were going to read the letter with that beginning and then you said, I listened to the No Agenda show as you suggested and it's a fantastic show.
What a product.
Thank you for turning me on to the No Agenda show.
What a great product.
But no.
Yes, you'll be listening.
Don't worry.
Don't worry.
Oh man, there's so much going on.
I spent most of it, all of yesterday, just going through what seems to be a never-ending bevy of regulations and executive orders and our president of Gitmo Nation.
It's not at all like you'd think there was some kind of connection, but now all of a sudden does an interview with Kara Schwisher for Recode.
And she, of course, is still married but separated from the chief technology officer of the entire United States.
You think there's a connection with her getting that interview and that particular piece of information?
Gee, do you think?
But it was so...
I don't know.
Did you see this interview?
Nah.
I pulled a couple clips if you're interested.
I would be interested, but I want to put it in context by playing a couple clips myself.
All righty.
Let's start with executive order banning.
He says be banning.
I have the executive order here.
Okay.
I can't wait to hear this.
Hackers and cyberbullets taking a big security step right in the middle of Silicon Valley.
Good evening.
I'm Veronica De La Cruz.
And I'm Ken Bacita.
President Obama today signed an executive order designed to stop cyber attacks.
It was the main focus of his Bay Area visit.
KPI X5's Devin Feely says that the whole idea is to get tech companies and the government working together.
That's right.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Now, increasingly, people are living their lives online, either their computers or their smartphones, and the public just wants to feel that their information is safe and their devices are secure.
But the president's message was that the threat of cyberattacks is bigger and broader, potentially affecting the economy and the country itself.
Oh, perfect lead-in, John.
Thank you.
Perfect.
Well, the executive order does not actually stop cyber crime or whatever.
How can it?
What does people think?
It's designed to stop cyber crime.
Oh, right.
No, it's not.
It's designed to force the sharing between the private sector and the government.
Yes, because they're not cooperating.
And when Obama showed up down here, Google wouldn't go to his event.
Yahoo wouldn't go to his event.
And neither would Facebook, because they've all been burned by the guy.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Kara did ask some questions to that regard.
But maybe we should just take a brief look at some of the highlights of this executive order, which no one will do for you, except a no-agenda show.
So there's a couple of sections.
It's really...
It is changing old executive orders, the U.S. code, I believe, to safeguard the sharing part.
So that companies are indemnified, that the government can, you know, under certain...
Circumstances can force.
I mean, it's too much for me even to parse all, because that's all in the last section.
It's crazy.
It's all this legal referring to stuff.
And you know that there are striking sections, inserting words.
It's just to make everything official.
We don't even need a law at this point.
In order to address cyber threats to public health and safety, national security, and economic security of the United States, private companies, nonprofit organizations, executive departments and agencies, and other entities must be able to share information related to cybersecurity risks and incidents and collaborate to respond in as close to real-time as possible.
That's right, we have real-time SkipLogic solutions we can see here on the dashboard.
The order builds upon the foundation established by Executive Order 13636 of February 12, 2013.
We went through this one, Improving Critical Infrastructure Cybersecurity.
And the Presidential Policy Directive 21, that's an important one.
That's about the critical infrastructure security and resilience.
All of these things combined make it just unnecessary to even pass a bill in Congress, I'm telling you.
Information Sharing Analysis.
Oh yeah, so we're starting the...
I-S-A-O. And people were tweeting about this like it was new, like we hadn't discussed this over and over again that this was going to happen.
The Secretary of Homeland Security, Jeh Johnson, shall strongly encourage the development and formation of information sharing and analysis organizations.
And that is the ISAO. ISAO membership may be drawn from the public or private sectors or consist of a combination of public and private sector organizations.
They may be formed as for-profit or non-profit entities.
And then there's a whole bunch of language as to how you can qualify to be an ISAO as either a for-profit or non-profit entity.
This is going to be another bonanza, John, that we're not in on.
An ISA hole?
Yeah, the ISA hole.
The secretary will, in fact, in consultation with other federal entities responsible for conducting cybersecurity-related activities, through an open and competitive process, enter into an agreement with a non-governmental organization to serve as the ISAO Standards Organization, which shall identify enter into an agreement with a non-governmental organization to serve as the ISAO Standards Organization, which shall identify a common set of voluntary standards or guidelines for the
So it's a shoe-in.
It's pretty much good to go.
We'll all be sharing.
Or our information will be shared by the very same companies who did not attend the...
What is it?
What do they call it?
The Security Summit?
What was it called?
Yeah, Tech Security Summit or some crap.
I don't know.
So here's Kara Schwisher.
The way she started off just threw up in my mouth.
Thank you for being here, Mr.
President.
Great to be here.
Very excited to do an interview with Recode.
And we have a lot of topics.
Do you hear what she just said?
Very excited to do an interview with Recode.
Is she reading his lines, or what went wrong with that?
Yeah, I guess it's with scripts.
They're probably handed the papers back and forth.
What happened there?
No, Recode may be excited to do it with you, although Recode is an entity.
Maybe you're excited, Cara?
Thank you for being here, Mr.
President.
Great to be here.
Very excited to do an interview with Recode, and we have a lot of topics to talk about in tech.
Let's go.
We're going to go from cybersecurity...
What?
What did he say?
Let's go.
They said let's roll.
He said let's go.
And so here she's doing something which I find to be abhorrent as a journalist.
She's going to tell the president right now a list of all the things she's going to talk about.
Why would you even do that?
Well, that's definitely not something Larry King would do.
No.
We're going to go from cybersecurity, your relationship with Silicon Valley, privacy, STEM, education.
Got it all covered.
Got it all covered.
All right.
Mr.
Tech.
Mr.
Tech.
Woo!
There it is!
That is exactly how these morons think about him.
Mr.
Tech.
No drama, Obama, Mr.
Tech.
No drama.
I'm telling you, this is what they think of him.
They really believe he understands all this crap.
He knows how to use a Blackberry.
Yeah, that does come up in this.
Okay, so now he's going to talk about the critical infrastructure that we need to be protective of.
And if we harp on anything, it's why are these systems connected to the Internet at all?
There's no necessity.
You don't have to be...
Putting up big firewalls.
Just don't connect it.
Just air gap that stuff.
Yeah, there's problems with people bringing in USB drives and stuff, but that's up to these companies themselves.
But there was a couple in here that I went, oh, really?
Maybe he's telegraphing something, which these interviews are typically used for.
Because we need to have an event.
One of the big conclusions is this is moving so fast that we've got to have a more nimble system.
This isn't a traditional setting where you can just set up a few standards or rules or regulations and then just sit on our laurels.
We have to constantly update all the time.
But what does it have to be to become more serious?
Shunning down New York?
Do you hear what she's saying?
Leading the witness.
Leading the witness.
We need something serious.
Serious.
He's saying it right there.
We're very vulnerable as we become more digital.
We're hugely vulnerable.
We've started...
We're hugely vulnerable, John!
...with critical infrastructure.
We're hugely vulnerable.
Hugely, hugely.
These are many ways.
We're very vulnerable as we get more digital.
We're hugely vulnerable.
We've started with critical infrastructure.
That's an area where heavy involvement with those industries, whether it's Wall Street and the financial sector, utilities, our air traffic control system.
Whoa!
Hold on a second.
Air traffic control system?
Really?
Really?
I put it in the book right now.
Cybersecurity scare, air traffic control system.
We already had the UK EAD system.
I'm sorry, the...
The flight planning system break where we had traffic confused for 45 minutes around the London area.
Put it in the book.
I'm putting it in the book.
This is what is going to get us...
Never have I heard air traffic control before in this list, I've heard.
I like the way you're thinking here.
All of that increasingly is dependent on the digital base that they're working off of.
It's called the digital base they're working off of.
The digital base?
Is that anything to do with Skip Logic?
Speaking in Foball?
But he's Mr.
Tech, so shut up.
He knows what he's talking about, Mr.
Tech.
Air traffic control system, all of that increasingly is dependent on the digital base that they're working off of.
And so a lot of concentration there first.
And one of the challenges is that a lot of this is private sector.
The vast bulk of it is private sector.
Oh, I can't have that.
And remember, she is on this interview page.
It says, there's a little disclaimer, Kara is married to, what's her name?
Megan Smith.
Yeah, Denise.
And Denise Smith, who was, of course, still holds Google shares, I presume.
There's a lot of Google in this interview.
The government has to be able to not only work with each individual company, we've got to be able to pull those companies together so they're working together.
What?!
The companies have to work together.
So they're working together.
Violation of everything that means anything to a capitalistic society.
Thank you.
We've got to be able to pull those companies together so they're working together more effectively.
And one of the things that makes this such a challenge...
It's called collusion.
It's against the law.
Yeah, you could collude on a lot of things that way.
Like how we store private information and how we sell it or bundle it.
I mean, there's a lot of things wrong with that idea.
One of the things that makes this such a challenging problem is all you need is one week link.
Oh, listen to this.
This is great.
So if you have...
The companies have to work together because if you have one week link...
You can have nine companies...
Right.
You can have nine companies that have...
Great protocols, authentication systems, you name it.
You have one that's not doing a good job, and that penetrates the entire system.
What?
No.
That's not true.
You have one bank that has weak security.
It doesn't mean that all banks are then penetrated.
He's just scaring people.
Let's move on in a second.
Let's stop for a second and let's reanalyze one little factoid, which is the liability thing, which is one of the deals they're trying to promote.
This is the number one part of the whole liability.
Let's think a little bigger than what it sounds like they're protecting these companies from.
I think they're protecting them from antitrust allegations.
So now you can do the collusion because, oh, we've got to work together on this, and while we're at it, let's fix prices.
And let's fix employee salaries.
Yeah, let's fix salaries, which is what they've been busted for before.
Because now we're doing it in the name of cybersecurity, so we have liability protection.
This is bull crap.
Yeah, well, it's happening fast and furious, my friends.
Now, just a nice little meme that he throws in there about our data collection.
What verb could the President possibly use about massive data collection?
I think he chose a nice one.
What is true is, and I've said this publicly, so I'm not saying anything that's classified in any way.
In other words, oops, I blew it somewhere.
Here it comes.
Our capacities to scoop up information became so great.
Scoop it up, John!
It's another fine Mr.
Tech term.
Scoop up the information.
With a pooper scooper?
And traditionally, there haven't been restraints on our intelligence community.
Scooping up information from outside our borders.
That's the scooping thing.
It kind of demeans the whole idea.
Which is the point, I guess.
I think it's like an ice cream parlor.
And non-U.S. persons.
I'll take two scoops of metadata, please.
And could you sprinkle some content on top?
And so what ended up happening was that in places like Germany, This had a huge impact not just on government-to-government relations, but suddenly all the Silicon Valley companies that are doing business there find themselves challenged.
In some cases, not completely sincerely, because some of those countries have their own companies who want to displace ours.
Now, that I thought was very interesting, and I pulled out this longer quote.
Where her president says the EU, and this would be Naley Smith-Cruise's backyard, who is the EU... Is she still the minister of...
No, no, she's gone.
She's gone.
Who's the new minister of digital?
I don't know.
Yeah, somebody else.
Well, but she was the one behind the big lawsuits, the multi-billion dollar lawsuits against Microsoft and Google and Facebook.
Before she left, she got that started.
So here's the president just outright accusing the European Union and doing it with pretty big balls.
You know, in defense of Google and Facebook, sometimes the European response here is more commercially driven than anything else.
As I said, there are some countries like Germany, given its history with the Stasi, that are very sensitive to these issues.
Throw in a little Nazi shit there on the Germans.
Stasi, that is Germany.
That's Russia, you idiot.
But we might as well give that to Germany anyway.
Hey, Germany, take the Stasi.
That is quite a gaffe, I feel.
That was ridiculous.
But sometimes their vendors, their service providers, People who can't compete with ours are essentially trying to set up some roadblocks for our companies to operate effectively there.
We have owned the Internet.
I want to stop it right here and say something.
I'm actually in agreement.
I've always been in agreement with this theory that much of the crap going on in Europe is because they're trying to stop the juggernaut.
Protectionary measures, yeah.
So he's fine with it.
I don't mind this, even though I'm not quite sure what he's getting at here.
But he's saying we own the internet.
I don't think he should be saying this.
No, I don't think he should be saying.
Not in this way, not in this forum.
With the close ties to Google, specifically, through lesbian sex.
I mean, there's a lot of issues here with these ties.
Our companies have created it, expanded it.
We really create ways that they can compete.
And oftentimes what is portrayed as high-minded positions on issues sometimes is just designed to carve out some of their commercial interests.
He's never heard this theory before?
It's interesting.
No, it's very interesting.
I never thought of such a thing.
Now the motherlode.
The motherlode, of course, is ultimately, and this is what Comey, the director of the FBI, has been going on and on about.
Of course, he's former HSBC, and he has a lot of history to cover up and stuff to examine and learn.
And it's about encryption.
And encryption, you will hear this president talk.
He will speak of strong encryption, which has nothing to do with the back door in encryption.
And his, Schwischer actually tries to drag it out of him, tries to say that he's flip-flopped.
He'll have none of that.
And he is going to now put before the American public, at least, the obvious choice we will have to make.
And we're going to have to have, John, here it is, a conversation about this.
We should have a national conversation.
You have encrypted email.
Shouldn't everybody have encrypted email or have their protections?
Everybody should.
And I'm a strong believer in strong encryption.
What, triple DES? That doesn't make any difference?
The issue here is that, partly in response to consumer demand, partly in response to legitimate concerns about consumer privacy, the technologies may be built to a point where, when the government goes to...
They can't get the information.
The company says, sorry, we just can't pull it.
It's so sealed and tight that even though the government has a legitimate request, technologically we cannot do it.
Is what they're doing wrong?
Now, do you really think, John, that NSA cannot break someone's PGP key within a reasonable amount of time?
I think that's what they'd like us to believe.
Well, the President certainly is not saying this.
What is he saying?
I mean, I'm sorry.
Well, he's saying that it's no good if there's...
Oh, yeah, so there's no good.
We can't do it.
Yeah.
That's exactly what you'd want to do in a situation where you want everyone believing that something's safe when it's not.
Yeah.
Well, here we go.
No, I think they are properly responding to a market demand.
All of us are really concerned about making sure...
So what are you going to do?
We all want to know that if we're using a smartphone for transactions, sending messages, having private conversations, that we don't have a bunch of people compromising that process.
A bunch of people.
And so encryption...
There's no scenario in which we don't want really strong encryption.
This is his word, really strong encryption.
This is the trick to make you think you're getting something great, but a backdoor makes all encryption zero strong.
The narrow question is going to be where there's a situation in which we're trying to get a specific Is there a case of a possible national security threat?
Is there a way of accessing it?
If it turns out it's not, then we're really going to have to have a public debate.
And I think some in Silicon Valley would make the argument, which is a fair argument, and I get, that the harm's done By having any kind of compromised encryption are far greater than...
That's an argument you used to make.
You would have made.
Has something changed?
No, I still make it.
I just changed the words a little.
It's just that I am sympathetic to law enforcement.
Because you were much stronger on...
No, I don't think I'm as strong as I have been.
I think the only concern...
His interview is over.
Our law enforcement is expected to stop every plot.
Every attack.
Here it comes.
Here's the wind-up, everybody.
Any bomb on a plane.
Bomb on a plane.
Snakes on a plane, bitch.
Snakes on a plane.
You want that stop, don't you?
The first time that attack takes place, in which it turns out that we had a lead and we couldn't follow up on it, the public's going to demand answers.
You want to put it in the book?
These guys are making it so obvious.
This is a public conversation that we should end up having.
I lean probably further in the direction of strong encryption than some do inside of law enforcement.
But I am sympathetic to law enforcement because I know the kind of pressure they're under to keep us safe.
And it's not as black and white as it's sometimes portrayed.
Now, in fairness, I think the folks who are in favor of airtight encryption Oh, airtight.
We're looking at the scenario.
Oh, these scripts are old.
This is this World War II scenario where we were intercepting everything from the Germans and everything from the Japanese, and we had to do stuff like, what are we going to do about this situation?
Let it happen, otherwise they'll know we cracked the encryption.
Ha ha ha.
Which is what we're going to be seeing here, and that's what's going to cause the public debate.
It's going to be, why can't you guys...
It's like, you know, what are we going to do about this?
Well, this one's not important enough.
It's only going to kill 100 people.
Not a big deal.
We don't want them to know that...
We've got to worry about the big one.
So don't let them know we've cracked.
So in other words, what I'm hearing here, if I'm listening at kind of a meta level, I'm hearing that they've cracked all encryption.
I don't know if GPG... GNU private...
GNU? GNU? Yeah, GNU. GNU. I have a feeling that may be okay.
That's what I use.
That's what I use, but...
I doubt it.
I'm pretty sure that...
The only one that...
I can't remember the name of this encryption program, but the early days of...
It was...
TrueCrypt, I think, is the...
The new one that was taken off.
There was a previous thing called Drive Crypt or something that came before the latest stuff.
And it had on it an encryption program that was the Swiss Banks encryption program that was used by the Swiss Banks.
I can't remember the name of it.
It was something that had a funny name, like Smooch or something like that.
And everybody was told not to use it.
No, you shouldn't use that.
I think something different is being done here.
It's really about the math.
So it's not so much the encryption itself, but if you want to crack something and you know the elliptic curve...
You can then apply math with some horsepower, and then you can figure out what...
I think it's really the formulas.
That, I think, is the basis of encryption.
Not the protocol itself.
That's probably hard, but you have to actually get into the calculus.
There you go.
Whatever calculus is used to create the encryption.
I think that basic premise, that's probably where it's already compromised, I think.
But who am I? I'm a podcaster.
We could have a lot of podcaster.
We could have a lot of encryption guys come on, and I'm sure a few of them would...
Oh, everyone will argue.
There'll be a million emails about how stupid I am, believe me.
Well, that's a given.
But that's beside the point.
Well, let me finish the last 20 seconds here.
I also want to be protected from terrorists, and so...
He's saying this was actually pretty funny.
He's saying, hey, privacy advocates.
Folks who are in favor of airtight encryption also want to be protected from terrorists.
It's like, hey, you know.
What?
Yeah, it's the worst thing you can say.
It's like saying, well, you know, you want to have, you know, you want gun rights to adhere to the Second Amendment, but, you know, you might get shot in the head.
Yeah, I might.
True.
True.
There are times where folks who see this through a civil liberties or privacy lens reject that there's any trade-offs involved.
And in fact, there are.
A civil liberties or privacy lens.
It's a lens now.
Your constitutional rights are a lens now.
And you've got to own the fact that it may be we want to value privacy and civil liberty far more than we do the safety issues.
Was she writing his material?
She's finishing his sentences safe and she throws it in.
She is actually rolling the prompter.
She has the foot switch herself.
She must.
Now, along with this comes the most recent episode of Persons of Interest.
Perez's emails and financials are clean.
No evidence that she knew the election was fixed.
Perhaps even she was unaware.
Either way, she's working for the wrong side.
We have to find something.
Have you tried the NSA? We can't hack down, but we can go to the NSA sources, the back doors.
I'll do Google.
You take Yahoo.
I know.
They constantly have these.
I love this.
I'll take Google.
You do Yahoo.
Just go to the back doors.
My favorite line, which is about two seasons ago, where the guy says, well, we can get the information from Facebook.
And then Finch says that he, oh, yeah, no, he said we can get anything we want from Facebook.
All the information from it, it's like dossiers online.
He says, who would put up a system like this?
He says, oh, I did.
I invented it.
So it makes everybody's life easier.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Then, I just have one more bit here.
I thought it was kind of interesting.
A short clip.
This is what we need to do in order to keep our competitive edge against all of the other massive world powers.
Read China.
And again, it's just...
What is the word I'm looking for?
Talking down...
Demeaning.
Demeaning, belittling the art, and I will call it an art, of writing software.
It's an art.
To me, it's like writing.
It's like writing a novel.
It's like writing poetry.
It's more like painting, but yes.
It's words, you know, and there's stringent ways, but you can approach any problem from a million different directions.
Even though we've got this strong industry, we're losing on lots of ground.
First of all, we're not losing it rapidly.
But what is true is that...
Losing what?
Our edge.
We are?
Yeah, well, she knows.
She's Kara Schwisher.
And I like this comeback.
What do you say?
Even though we've got this strong industry, we're losing on lots of ground.
First of all, we're not losing it rapidly.
But what is true is...
What is true?
That's a good way of talking.
But what is true...
...is that our lead will erode if we don't make some good choices now.
Now, what should we do?
STEM education, huge priority.
Homegrown, we've got to have our kids.
Homegrown.
Math and science, and it can't just be a handful of kids.
It's got to be everybody.
Everybody.
Everybody's got to learn how to code.
Everybody's got to learn how to code.
Early.
Why?
Well, first of all, code.
This is a crap way of describing a modern art form.
Everyone's got to learn how to code.
Everyone has to learn how to paint.
Okay, we'll use your words.
Everyone's got to learn how to paint at an early age.
Everybody.
Nobody has to learn how to code, except people who want to.
Everybody.
Be a handful of kids.
It's got to be everybody.
Everybody's got to learn how to code early.
I saw you were learning how to code.
Do you encourage your daughters to code?
I have.
Do they?
Well, not as much as I would probably like.
How much is enough, Mr.
President?
How much would you like your daughters to code?
Do you want them to show you 20 lines before dinner?
What is your measurement there?
They got started a little bit late.
Part of what you want to do is introduce this with the ABCs and the colors.
With the ABCs?
Yes.
What color is this, Billy?
Blue.
It's green, you idiot.
And particularly focusing on girls' participation in math, science, technology early is important.
That's right.
We want girls' coding.
It'll be the sweatshop of the future.
Yeah, that's about it.
That's a sweatshop job.
That's what he's just turned it into.
Yeah.
Unbelievably disgusting.
Meanwhile, the report came out today that, and this is from The Verge, and I think they're completely compromised and a bunch of dicks who have venture capital money and wait until it runs out.
And this is the report.
Banks in Russia, Japan, the U.S., and Europe have fallen victim to a massive, sophisticated malware hack allowing the perpetrators to steal hundreds of millions of dollars since 2013.
And this comes to us from Kaspersky Labs, a report in the New York Times.
Really?
This is so coincidental that it comes out right now, this news?
I'm glad we're doing all this Cyber Summit stuff because we're right on time.
What a coincidence!
And then with the Anthem hack, I got an email from one of our knights.
I know someone who used to work at Blue Shield.
He says the company is very out of date, runs on extremely old software, and the guys in charge of system security spend most of their time trolling on LinkedIn for girls who work at the company to ask them out for coffee.
Yeah.
Sounds right.
Sounds right to me.
Yeah, sounds totally right.
A bunch of sysadmins going, because of course they have no budget, no money.
What do they mean by old and antiquated?
Is it old what?
I mean, is it old COBOL stuff?
I don't know.
There's no COBOL viruses that I know of.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
I think most of those, the database is maybe running on mainframe, but the access is all going to be through Windows machines, ultimately, I think.
If I were just to guess.
X.25.
I'll get a laugh.
I remember.
I remember X.25.
Someone else said, how come we don't bring back Novell networks?
Yeah, there's a reason.
Ever try to configure a Novell token ring?
That was IBM with a token ring.
Novell had a different topography.
What was their thing called?
I don't know.
It was effective, though.
Anyway, we're not the...
Anyway, yes, you're right.
You're right.
So this is disturbing.
And it's like, where's the voice of sanity except here, maybe?
Well, and the only maybe.
We are the voice of standard, but let's go on and let's make sure that we, you know, the report that we got off of our local news, and I'm sure most of the local news around the country about the president getting, we got to get industry to work with the government, which is also called corporatism or fascism.
It is a part of the fascism definition, yes?
Yes, and we'll let that slide because it's so important because these terrorists are out to kill us.
They're out to kill us.
What do you want?
What do you want?
Do you want some security or do you want your privacy?
I mean, let's have a national conversation.
So let's follow that story up with another story to kind of...
Let's bring it home.
Let's bring it home with another story called the Cyber Secure Smart Home.
Example of the threat posed by cyber crooks.
New at 6, our Kate Kager discovered it doesn't take much for hackers to get into even the smartest of homes.
The next time we go to war in some far-off place, with just a click, the fight could come home.
Can I bring down the electrical grid in America?
Can I bring down planes?
I think everything is moving on.
Hey, I just heard the planes.
Yes, you did, didn't you?
Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, very nice.
Can I bring down the electrical grid in America?
Can I bring down planes?
The whole electrical grid, really, the whole grid will come down.
Oh yeah, with a click of a mouse.
I think everything is moving online today.
House temperature.
Our thermostats, our refrigerators, everything is connected.
An expanding number of services, objects, and appliances are connected to the internet.
That makes them ripe for hacking.
Just ask 60 Minutes Leslie Stahl when a hacker took over her car.
Not only that...
It's a whole lot cheaper to get cyber weapons.
But really?
That was the demo of the car?
We've seen this 20 million times.
Oh yeah, yeah, it shows you.
But the way she just said it was, oh, just ask Leslie when hackers took over her car.
A lot cheaper to get cyber weapons than to build plutonium enrichment plants.
Synac, a security firm in Redwood City, tested 16 smart home products from cameras to thermostats.
It took only 20 minutes to break into all but one.
It turns out the security cameras were the least secure.
There really hasn't been a good way for us to assess the integrity of these devices and make sure that they truly are secure and not opening up holes in our networks and our homes.
Yeah.
Woo!
Well, make no mistake, this Amazon thing I've got here is recording everything I do, and then eventually they'll just go, okay, we heard you say this.
You're affiliated with Al-Qaeda.
Yeah.
That's what's going to happen to you.
This is how the show ends.
Amazon Echo ends.
And the funny thing is you see it.
You are from the future.
Yes.
Now, let's go over a couple of things about that last report.
How many people, except some Silicon Valley screwballs and some guys with more money than brains, have their houses hooked to the internet?
Oh, you mean with like webcams and security cams and the Nest thermostat?
Yeah, a lot of people.
I don't.
I don't care if anybody looks at it, because then there would just be more witnesses to somebody coming to rob me.
But that's all I've got.
The rest of the only internet stuff is my computers, which are hooked to the internet, yes.
The guy says refrigerator again.
Who's going to go in the refrigerator?
Here's the problem I have.
Who wants to pay the extra money for a refrigerator hooked to the internet when all it's going to do is serve you ads on the display?
No, that's not true, Joe.
More mayonnaise.
There's a deal.
No, that's not true.
It's going to know when you're out of milk and it will order it for you.
Yeah, it'll give you a coupon.
It is so sad.
I have something else here.
That's kind of skipping ahead.
Oh yeah, I know where it is.
Because I've been promising some singularity stuff.
We'll do that later.
It's so sad that I hooked up once to Tinder with my Facebook profile...
I'm now a member of, I think, seven or eight different get laid, search for your perfect partner things.
And really, this is all they can figure out to market to me is more dating shit?
Yeah, if you're buying this dating service, you might as well buy all the dating services.
In fact, there's quite a few specific ones.
I have a clip here, now that you bring it up.
Dating firm specific...
This is showing some of the different kinds of dating firms.
But then they go...
This is a special report that was done on PBS. Oh, actually, play this clip.
This is the online dating perfect.
Okay.
Hold on.
Good for you.
First, I've got to play a jingle.
I've got it all covered.
Mr.
Tick.
That's our audience making the jingles while you wait.
E-Harmony is big, but niche sites are trending for Jews, Christians, farmers, sea captains, mimes, the gluten-free, the incarcerated, the unhappily married, and of course, accompanied by Mozart.
Welcome to personals.com.
As a fellow cat owner, I know how finicky we are.
But no matter how finicky, you're better off with more than less.
It's personal.
It's P-U-R-R. Oh, personal.
But he rattled off and showed the websites.
I didn't know there was one for mimes.
I'd heard that either.
That's hilarious.
But is that all they can sell me?
Is that all they can do?
Yeah, you'd get ads for all these other sites.
How pathetic is that?
It's pathetic.
This is the whole thing.
The big data scam is a huge scam.
And now that there's things out there like this product I use, which is called...
Squirrel Mail.
No, not Squirrel Mail.
Squirrel Mail is great.
No, it's the thing that clicks on everything in the background, so it completely...
Oh, it confuses everything?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's great.
If you turn off the systems and you get ads for, like...
It's just...
There's no rhyme, no reason.
Yeah, that's great.
You know, jewelry, fountain pens.
That's good.
It's very good.
Please.
You want to play the other one?
Yeah, now here's the thing, because there's a term that came in here, and I wanted to definitely keep it on, because I tried to remember the term and I couldn't.
And the term is firm-specific human capital.
I've never heard that before, but I know exactly what it means.
Just on hearing it, and I think it's an interesting, it's an economic term from the world of economics.
It means that if you're working for a company for a long time, you may be a vice president of something.
Over time, you get a lot of firm-specific value because you work.
And if you quit to go someplace else, you're useless.
You might as well start as the male guy.
But whatever the case is, He talks about...
This is about dating being potentially addictive if you're using online dating sites because you get so much...
Oh, this girl's beautiful and she's smart, but look at this one.
She's beautiful and she's smarter.
And you'll never do what he suggests, which was also a suggestion in an old 30 Rock, which was you should, if you're really interested in...
Getting down to business and starting a family, you have to settle.
And nobody wants to hear settle, but this is a very funny report and it discusses this a little bit.
Because you think you're going to hit the jackpot eventually.
Rudder doesn't deny it.
Whether you're gay or straight, we're constantly showing you people.
There might be someone better looking or who has a cooler profile or whatever it is just right around the corner always.
To Paul Oyer, though, a surfeative choice is just another search cost.
For which economists have a fairly simple solution.
What you need to do is you need to settle.
To say, I have somebody who's good enough.
People hate it when we say that, but it's the way a rational economist would think about it.
But wait a minute.
After my first date with my now wife, I knew she was the one for me.
We've now been married for 30 years.
I've never fallen for that bullcrap again.
By the way, this is his...
He never says it, but this is his Valentine's gift to his wife.
Oh, man.
Yeah, well...
Married for 30 years.
The perfect one for you does not exist.
But there's a very important idea in labor economics called firm-specific human capital.
And that is, as you work at a company for a longer time, you have certain skills that are valuable at that company and not elsewhere.
Well, you've built up something we'll call marriage-specific human capital.
You've developed your life around your wife such that she probably is the best match for you at this point.
I gotta tell you something.
Divorce is the best thing that ever happened to me.
There's a lot of people that take the divorce is great line.
It's to me.
I'm sorry?
It's to me.
It's great for me.
No, it's great for a lot of people.
But they were mixed up in the wrong relationships to begin with, and firm specific wasn't playing out.
Anyway, the point was that these online dating sites, which you brought up in the topic, are just an endless...
Kind of a treadmill of potential people to date.
Yeah, it's very, very strange.
They didn't mention Tinder.
That's the gay one, right?
No, Grindr is the gay one.
Oh, Grindr.
Oh, you're on Tinder.
I thought you were on Tinder.
And I tried out Hinge.
Hinge?
Hinge.
Now, Hinge is interesting.
Another one you have to log...
I'm the canary.
I'm telling you, I'm doing this.
So, you also have to sign in with Facebook.
F that.
If you quit it, do you become unhinged?
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Who knows?
But what's cool there is you see someone and then it has underneath...
People who they know who are your friends on Facebook.
That's creepy.
Oh, that's totally creepy.
Yeah.
Like, well, I don't want to swipe right on her because, you know, Fritz knows her.
That would suck if he knew I was on Hinge.
If I'm on Hinge.
The guy's weird and bad.
Hold on.
Last story.
I can't even tell you.
I recognized someone from Tinder the other day in a store.
Oh, really?
What?
Yes.
How much time are you spending on Tinder?
No, this is before I left for New York.
I haven't looked at it anymore, but I forgot to tell this story.
And there's this place called Diesel Foods, which is...
I think she was a former bodybuilder or something, and she set up this healthy food.
It's all fresh made, etc.
There's one store in Austin.
And I like to pick up some turkey lasagna, and you throw it in the microwave, or the oven is good to go.
And she's showing me...
I said...
I saw you on Tinder.
It was out before I meant it.
She was like, uh...
Yeah, uh-huh.
So I said, well, here's my number, you know, in case that Tinder doesn't work out for you.
Huh.
Oh, guess what?
What?
No, she never called.
Of course not.
You're a creep.
Creep.
Creep.
Okay, so I have a problem I have to report so you don't start moving the show along too quickly.
Oh, but you have a problem with the spreadsheet?
No, I have a problem.
My keyboard batteries went dead.
Oh, okay.
So I have to go grab a keyboard from the other side of the room.
Okay.
Before I can get to my mail.
Okay.
So why don't you regale the audience with a rival tail.
Instead of a tail, I should go ahead and go now.
I'm just going to be filling up time and I shall play some productions that have been sent in to the No Agenda show.
No.
You got to know Eric Holder Has a secret folder And he wants to walk away Selling him the guns He always likes to play the race car Whenever he is able There'll be time enough for coming clean When Barack is done All the sleeves considered him The coward of the cabinet Not at all inappropriate.
Living it up at the Hotel Pennsylvania.
That's right.
I was living it up at the Hotel Pennsylvania.
Are you back?
Are you plugged in?
You done?
You good to go?
I'm plugged in, but this...
Ah, driver problem.
Yeah.
Driver problem.
There you go.
It's not a Mac, dude.
Do you want to reboot and call me back?
No, no.
I don't want to reboot.
Actually, what I could do, which I think is the proper thing to do, is we should stop tape.
Yeah, stop tape.
Stop tape, everybody!
All right.
Stape is topped.
And I should run downstairs and get two batteries for those guys.
Does your computer not warn you that batteries are on their way out?
Actually, it did, and on the last show, I paid no attention to it.
You ignored it.
Okay.
I did.
Tape is stopped.
Tape is stopped?
I will go right back.
Sorry.
No, it's okay.
This is a first.
Yeah, I'm good to go.
Oh, okay.
So while we're at that...
I'd like to thank you for your courage and say, in the morning to you, John C. Cell Dvorak!
And in the morning to you, Adam Curry, and also in the morning to all ships that see boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, wondering where the recording's actually going, and all the dames and knights out there.
And in the morning to everyone there in the chat room, noagendastream.com, good to see you all.
Logged in, good to go.
And in the morning to our artist, Pay, P-A-Y. Came in with the album art for episode 6, 9, or 5.
Again, it was not easy.
But the pay has some nice original stuff.
It was nice.
This was the Democritate episode, and we used the enduring with the expiration date open.
Yes.
That's good.
I like that a lot.
Artgenerator.com is where you can find all of the submissions.
This art is great for all kinds of things.
Also for newsletters where we use it as well.
We do have a few people to thank for show 697?
It's Swazilnov, man.
It's 696.
696.
And are we doing the Valentine's list as well today?
Well, the Valentine's list, of course, we have double credits.
They got their mention the first time, and then they get the second credit today.
And that will be on the list of...
I mean, we could rattle off the names.
That's okay.
It will be listed and they will be credited for a second producership today.
Good.
And there's a number of people we have that list.
And I also pulled some other additional names off of...
I had to go parse certain donations to find...
Because they had some like $300.
I had $214 plus $33 for a boarding pass, and I also have a $5 call-out and $69, $69, and it's like, you know, it comes out to some amount of money.
You know, if that guy shows up at your door, man, you'll know him immediately with that voice.
He's from Chicago.
Oh, okay.
Insta-slave.
$1,000.
Wow.
Woo!
That saved us.
Yeah, it did, actually.
That's fantastic.
Thank you.
We weren't expecting a lot today.
Last show, Adam seemed to be concerned about the zombification of the masses.
There's also the Brian Williams story.
I think Adam is right.
It is human nature, as much as John would not like to admit it, it is human nature to make shit up, present company excluded, of course.
Yeah.
Of course.
I think the process of zombification requires some more attention.
The underlying problem of...
John, I just want to say, just so you know, there's something very strange.
My control surface is freaking out.
I don't know why.
Okay, well, let me keep reading.
Yeah, just so you know, if I have to cut out, then you know...
The underlying problem is most of us are meek psychophants...
Again, present company excluded.
Yes, of course.
Stories like the one of Reggie Love seems to reinforce the narrative.
Right.
The meek shall inherit the planet.
This is as much true as the temporary embarrassed millionaires.
Wait, is this scripture?
The meek shall inherit the planet?
Where is this coming from?
I've heard this before.
The meek shall inherit the earth is the scripture.
Oh.
Some of the stories being peddled by the influencers are simply mind-boggling, and yet the sheep flock in, cheers and upvotes them all the time.
Stockholm Syndrome?
Probably.
It's real!
That's right.
I hereby propose a new segment, another story from social media, maybe part of the tech...
By the way, this guy printed this out in six-point type.
Nice.
Maybe the part of the tech segment where John looks at a random story and his LinkedIn account and deconstructs the story with the comments.
Or with the comments.
This should be fun and provide much-needed relief for the...
related to brainwashing of the masses is the behavioral interview questions.
This is particularly sad as many of these questions are totally inappropriate in a work environment, yet somehow they're okay during the interview process.
Masses at large do not object as they need the jobs.
Adios mofos.
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This is much closer to the reality and does not violate the Constitution.
Excellent.
And then he said, what happened to the deconstruction of the singularity movement?
I'm going to...
Did I ever promise a deconstruction or that I had some fun stuff to talk about?
People are like, where's the takedown of singularity?
I was under the same impression.
You were going to take it down.
You and I are going to take it down.
It's very simple.
Very simple.
Yeah, I would do that when you feel like it.
I don't care.
Right after this segment.
Dame Cathy and Sir Greg Simunich in West Chicago.
Simunich.
Simunich.
No, no.
Simunich.
Got a note here from her.
Oh, okay.
John, our last name is pronounced like Munich, Germany.
I'm sorry.
It was a sigh in front.
I was wrong.
Um...
Sorry not to have donated in a while, she says.
Just saying happy 2014 is over.
Sir Greg and I are listening live to show 694, so they're live.
They're listening now.
Well, that was too sad to have it.
And probably hung up.
Finally got off my butt to donate before sitting down to do my taxes, just in case they take the rest of the money.
Nothing witty to say today.
Just accept this donation for show 696.
696?
Show member.
Oh, finally!
Nice!
Haven't had one of those in a while.
Great, thank you.
Take a whoop-em-with-the-constitution karma.
Okay.
Whoop-em-with-the-constitution...
Is it the short one?
Yeah, we want the short one.
Get out there!
Whoop-em, whoop-em, whoop-em!
Whoop-em, whoop-em, whoop-em!
You've got karma.
Nice.
I think Kathy and Sir Greg, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Incognigro came in with $250 from Wilkes-Parre, Pennsylvania.
Incognigro.
Adam, given that your personal life is only askew and not quite a shambles, I'll take this time to let you know what an asshole and how piss-poor your Ferguson coverage was.
Even if your inherent bias is merely a lame cove for your very Tourette's syndrome, tics, and drug-related developmental delay.
It's dead wrong and propagates...
I don't know what he's talking about.
It's dead wrong and propagates the worst of racialized formulas.
Value for value compels me.
And short of that, kiss my ass.
By the way, you can send anyone who wants to say kiss to say that and send in 250 bucks.
We're all gay.
Bring it down.
I'll kiss your ass.
No problem.
JCD, keep up the good work, bastard.
I don't know what he's talking about.
He saw the whole thing as a kind of a media circus with Al Sharpton there.
Well, this is what we call...
One part of the town burnt down.
Let me just finish.
One part of the town burnt down.
There's an oil pipeline nearby, and we went and looked a little further into it.
The killing of this kid that seems to be under all kinds of weird circumstances.
The left takes one side, the right takes another.
We take no sides on this.
And you're in Pennsylvania, incognito.
I would say...
You weren't there.
I've learned from a year of therapy that he is projecting.
Yeah, he probably is projecting.
I think a lot of people were projecting.
Most people project.
I get these emails, but we got one the other day, which I responded.
Guys like, the war is real.
You're wrong.
All these brave men and women are fighting to keep us safe.
You're an asshole.
Okay.
Then you can write back.
If you go back and forth, eventually it's like, oh man, I'm sorry I was drunk.
My dog died.
My wife left me.
I was in a bad mood.
Then I think I'm going to email Adam because he's so funny.
Yeah, well, yeah, we do get a lot of, we had some of the guys.
It's okay.
But the guy who never donates, he says, you guys are just Obama bashers.
I should explain, the newsletter was a part, you know, it was a victim of a hoax.
Those pictures of Obama with the selfie camera, of course, were part of an ad that was running on BuzzFeed.
The president does ads.
That's beside the point.
Native ads, I might add.
Native is a native ad, yeah.
And meanwhile, this guy thinks we're just Obama.
This show goes back to Bush.
Bush just as much.
And we don't like the Democrat candidates.
We don't like the Republican candidates.
We don't even like each other.
What are you talking about?
There you go.
We're completely independent because the guy says, you have an agenda.
You got an agenda.
Well, this guy's got an agenda of never donating.
That's what I could figure out.
Anyway, onward with the situation.
Well, thank you, Incognito.
We appreciate it.
Bring your black ass over here.
I'll kiss it.
Jeffrey Maxwell, Cranberry Township, Pennsylvania, 23456.
No note of any importance.
Sir Stuart Rushing in Corvallis, Oregon, 21433.
Now let's see if he's going to have to look at this to see if he has an email because it seems to me that he would have a wife or somebody that he'd want to send a valentine call out for.
This is Sir Stuart.
Yeah, Sir Stuart, do you have anything for me?
I'll look.
I'll look.
I don't know.
And you would think that this would be pre-produced.
I mean, I'm not in charge of this, but...
Oh, yeah, you know, it's easier said than done.
No, I don't see...
I don't see anything.
Stuart Rushing.
There you go.
Gents, ITM, my BOA online checking account, Ledger, claims my latest check, 214332, no agenda is being processed today.
Hopefully John will find it in the El Cerrito P.O. Box 339 next time he empties it, indeed.
Most of my previous donations were buzz donations, not high enough blood alcohol content for DUI. Which were accompanied by an email sent the same day the check was written, but typically almost a week prior to the donation being mentioned on the show.
I decided to try something different at this time.
I'm sending the email the day the check is expected to arrive.
Hopefully this will ensure the clips and karma requests being combined with the donation mentioned.
Yeah, I know.
As you really get a book of paper checks for future donations, I'll probably do that after I get my ring.
My job, Nuclear Quality Assurance Auditor.
Nice.
Will have me traveling to Europe several times this year, and it looks like one of the better flight alternatives will be to fly through Amsterdam.
That's right.
Send me an email.
I will give you the wireless details.
I plan to spend a day or two of personal time for layovers in various cities along the way.
Any recommendations for fun ways to spend my time while in Amsterdam would be greatly appreciated.
Well, you would know.
What day is he going?
Did he mention that?
No, he doesn't have the exact date.
Hit me up with an email.
Adam at Curry.com.
As for the length of the show, three hours is not too much and two hours is not enough.
That's why we try to hit 250.
Two hours and 30 minutes.
You guys provide much needed respite from the insanity of the mainstream media and the brainwashing effects it has on family, friends, and coworkers.
I really do need to start handing out CDs of the show.
Please donate my VD, Valentine's Day Karma, to Adam in hopes that it aids his interactions with the ladies from the spin class.
Which I have several favorite clips and clip combinations.
None seem appropriate for VD. So please have Adam pick out a few that will raise his morale later.
Well, my morale is already quite high, but happy to do it.
I've got information, man!
New shit has come to life!
You've got karma.
I'm good with that.
Onward.
Let's see, where were we?
Oh yeah, Sir Patrick Coble in Nashville, Tennessee.
Yeah, with his Ducati.
Ducati.
Is it Ducati?
Yeah, I think the 850?
Yeah, it's an insane, insane motorcycle.
Sir Patrick Koba, I wanted to wish my beautiful wife and best friend Sarah a happy Valentine's Day, Sarah.
I'm almost a baronet and will make it to Baron this year.
Yay.
Excellent, thank you.
And he has an LGY. Yay!
An LGY for you.
Sierra Walker in De Pere, Wisconsin, 214.
Sierra Walker.
Well, I hate to be the one to do this, but I'm going to have to look her up if she did send a note in.
Or he.
No, it's a...
What do you think that is?
I don't know.
I'll look up Sierra.
And we get Sierra Walker.
So I'm hearing that fan again.
Yeah, you know, I gotta do something about this.
Yeah, move the mic off.
First time donating via PayPal for the Valentine's deal, but didn't see a place for comments.
Would like to dedicate my donation to my wonderful husband, Sir Christopher.
Thanks, Sierra.
Nice.
That's very sweet.
Wife of Sir Christopher.
Super sweet.
Yeah.
Alright, back to the spreadsheet.
Onward, Sierra Walker.
Mike Nichols, $200, and he'll be the associate executive producer along with the Valentine's Day.
In fact, almost everybody.
Now, $200 for Cherry here.
Please use Mike, not Howard.
First time donor I heard about it.
John, what kind of a-hole are you?
I never use Howard.
He says, use Mike.
Mike Nichols.
First time I heard about Adam coming to New York for a meetup and didn't feel right about attending without becoming a donor or whatever it says here.
He's cut off.
Do you think that maybe he didn't want you to mention that other name on the show?
No, he didn't say that.
He says, use Mike, not Howard.
His name comes in through PayPal as Howard Nichols.
There's a bunch of guys that don't like the name that they use on PayPal.
Okay.
Not like he says, keep me anonymous.
Well, that's how I took it.
No, I didn't take it that way.
I know, because I've seen this before.
It's not my name.
I get the one number.
I don't use that name.
I sound like a kid in school.
Blame PayPal, not me.
Whenever this happens, we just got to resort to...
His first name may have been Ben.
A guy named Ben.
A dude named Ben.
That's it.
That's all I needed.
Dude named Ben.
Howard Mike.
Keep up the amazing work.
No jingles needed.
Thank you.
The meetup didn't feel right, but we're coming.
Okay, so he's a producer now, so he would go to the meetup.
But it's too late.
Adam left New York.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
That just didn't work out.
That's our group.
And we have a number of other people who will add to the list of producers and associate executive producers for show 696, which accounts for all the Valentine's Day call-outs we did in advance of Valentine's Day.
I looked at this.
We had, let me see.
It was a shorter list than I thought.
Well, there's a bunch of them that are, you know, off.
Mm-hmm.
But I wrote them down on a sheet of paper so we'll go through them at the end so they all get put on the list and get their double producership credit.
So everybody who came in today as an associate executive producer or as an executive producer, these credits are real.
It's real.
It really is.
And you can put them anywhere.
LinkedIn, I hear that when you're trolling for girls to take them out for coffee and they see you trolling them with your profile, like, wow, he's an executive producer.
Maybe he's looking for an unknown.
Just a thought.
And, of course, we will have another donation segment thanking everybody else coming up in just a little bit here on the show.
Dvorak.org slash NA. Obviously, we always need everybody out there handing out CDs if you can.
Propagate the formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
What else?
What else?
Shut up, blame me.
All right.
And since this campaign's over, I do want to mention that we do have show 700 coming up in three or four shows.
And that will be anyone who wants to donate the 700 in advance of show 700.
Yeah.
We'll get another double producership.
And that will be in four weeks, I guess.
Four shows.
Two weeks.
Wow.
Excellent.
Then we have Pi Day coming up, which is 314.
Yeah.
3.1415.
So there's lots of opportunities there.
Okay.
So this singularity, really what happened is I came across some interesting information.
Information?
Yes, new info.
New information has come to light?
Indeed!
I've got information, man!
New shit has come to light!
Because I've always been interested in how this works and where the money is flowing.
And just really, what the hell is it?
And we know that there's a bunch of insane people.
Have you ever seen this Jason Silva guy?
No.
Oh, man.
So he's somehow...
Should I look him up as you speak?
Yeah, well, you can look at the Book of Knowledge.
In fact, you could consult him.
Consult the Book of Knowledge.
Jason Silva, and he's Venezuelan-American.
His wiki page says, personality, filmmaker, and performance philosopher.
Philosopher.
Philosopher.
He resides in Los Angeles and New York.
He's bi-coastal.
He has a degree in film.
There he is.
He looks like...
Yeah.
He looks like...
I don't know what he looks like.
The Atlantic describes Silva as a Timothy Leary of the viral video age.
So I pulled a clip from Mr.
Timothy Leary of the viral video age.
I think Adderall would be what he's on, I think.
So this next singularity, empowered by the convergence of exponentially emerging technologies like biotechnology, which is manipulating the information processes of biology, nanotechnology, which is to manipulate matter at the level of the atom and insert computation into matter, and AI, which is to create non-biological intelligence that's not subject to the limitation of the human brain.
Ah!
I'm hard now.
Thank you.
I really needed that.
Can you believe this guy?
What is he saying?
This is the kind of bullshit.
He's a natural.
He's like, he might as well be selling shares at some point.
Well, this is kind of what it is, this singularity business.
We'll continue.
Verging forces of those three things are sending us towards what seems to be another singularity, as big in scale as the invention of language was.
Whoa!
This is where we're headed, John.
As big in scale as the invention of language.
See, information technology is progressing so rapidly and it's bootstrapping on its own complexity in an exponential way.
It's bootstrapping on its own complexity in an exponential way.
Oh no, no, no!
Don't do this!
Oh shit!
More computation in our smartphones today than there were in 60 million dollar supercomputers that were half a building 40 years ago.
Computation is going to be occurring on scales that can be fit inside our bodies.
I mean, we're talking about molecular-sized computers writing software for I think I averted a crash here with that.
My controller was crapping.
It's this guy.
It's this guy.
For our minds and bodies.
You should get rid of that clip.
It's jinxed.
Confluence of all these things coming together over the next 25, 30 years is going to be trillions of times more advanced than anything that we can conjure up right now.
And so we have achieved more change in life.
Wait for it!
It's almost over.
It's been in the last billion years thus far.
So when you look at what's coming, he says we should call that a singularity because it's an appropriate metaphor to describe what happens when you go through a black hole.
And it's like, we don't know what's going to happen after that.
We just know things are going to get really weird.
Who says?
He said he said.
Yeah, Jason Silva says.
Did he speak about himself in third party?
Well, these people are insane.
He's talking about Kurzweil.
He's talking about Kurzweil, but he's kind of weaseling in on all the action.
Well, let me stop you for a second.
Okay.
I'm looking at a wiki page.
Born in 1982, is a Venezuelan-American television personality.
What television has he done?
I don't think it...
Is there a source there on the...
I don't see any evidence of this.
No, no.
Okay, well, then he's a filmmaker.
He's a filmmaker.
What films has he done?
Something for Current TV, I believe.
That's a film?
Yeah, it's a film for television.
Oh, Vimeo.
Yeah, okay.
There you go.
Exactly.
He took a small cam and turned it on video and filmed himself.
This is just a hypester.
He's also a performance philosopher.
What is that?
I think we're that as well.
No, we're performance artists.
Ah, yes, true.
He earned a degree in film and philosophy.
That's a strange degree.
From the University of Miami in Coral Gables.
He, along with Max Lugavier, produced and starred in a video documentary performance piece titled Textures of Selfhood.
I think I was just playing this clip just to accentuate how insane hype-y these people are with total, just like, hello, 1998.
We want our internet bubble back.
And this is what it is.
All of a sudden, I got on Jason Calacanis' angel list.
Probably through Tinder.
I have no idea how I got on this list.
It wouldn't surprise me.
Hey, that guy.
We'll take any names we can get.
That's right.
So the way this works, besides, of course, Silicon Valley companies or companies who believe in this kind of bull crap, and like that Yahoo guy with the crazy hair.
Oh, God, I forgot about him.
They send executives to the Singularity University to learn about the future.
And, of course, as you can tell, this guy, Jason Silva, clearly is from the future.
But what it really is...
So you go to your class.
It's not like an ongoing, enduring school.
It's a conference, basically.
It's like a floating crap game.
But what they do is they present all these interesting futuristic technologies, which they have invested in.
And this is the thing that I figured out.
They literally invest in everything they show.
And then they have this startup accelerator, this Singularity University startup lab accelerator.
So they're taking a piece, besides investing, they're taking an actual piece of the action and are just selling, they probably sell you a spot into their fund.
I would think that some people are offered that.
So this is nothing more than Taking people who are confused at best, covering them with, slathering them with verbal diarrhea, and then showing them a bunch of things that they can get better from, I guess, if they invest, or eventually buy stock, or something like that.
Everything they show is they invest in.
This is not okay.
Huh.
Yeah.
Did you know this?
No, I don't know.
It's one of those things that I... Oh, you try to avoid it.
I know.
I know.
But when you hear this guy and the hypester crap, and people buy into this, and Kurzweil, who has groupies, is leading this.
Please.
Yeah, Kurzweil has groupies.
I've had Kurzweil on my Silicon Spin show a couple of times, and I ran into him a few other times.
And...
I've always thought that somewhere along the lines he seems to have been, he's like the guy, if you ever watch the movie Office Space?
Of course.
And the guy gets hypnotized and then the hypnotist dies.
And then the guy is kind of in a hypnotic state after that and just not paying much attention to anything, just doing what he's like in a daze.
That's Kurzweil.
Oh, he's been hypnotized and the hypnotist died.
Perfect.
Organ Preservation Alliance, Focus at Will, Authentize, Nativeoo, Edify, Matternet, Pull Approach, Microlus, Swift Tram, Patient Key, Field Ready, Blue Oak Resources, Genome compiler.
That's actually...
That's done well, I think.
Evolutionary solutions.
Modern meadow.
Made in space.
Escape dynamics.
Woo!
It's great.
All of these are in the show notes.
You gotta watch this guy.
He's high, man.
He's just high talking about this stuff.
Huh.
I don't know.
It's just so far removed from what we do.
I know.
Kind of reality-based deconstructions of actual news that takes place or doesn't take place, but we find out one way or the other.
So let's talk about the happiest place on Earth.
Disneyland?
No.
Come on.
Was it not last week that once again the poll came out?
Denmark, the happiest place on Earth?
Oh, yeah.
Now it's a bunch of gun-toting Westerners.
How's that working out, Denmark?
Are you still happy?
Are you still really, really happy?
Let me give a short version.
I have Denmark the clip here, which is a short intro to people who aren't following this.
It's after a person died from wounds following a shooting at a synagogue in the Danish capital.
Earlier on Saturday, another civilian was killed when gunmen attacked a cafe where a meeting on free speech and blasphemy was taking place.
RT's Peter Oliver now with the latest.
Anyway, they go on and on with the interviews of all kinds of people, including the cartoonist, apparently, who they were actually after and trying to kill.
Yes, Lars Vils.
I have a clip from him.
Oh, play.
And this is all telling.
Remember, Denmark, happiest place on earth.
People are happy.
They got everything free, health care, hookers, everything's free.
It's a great place.
We should be very, very, very jealous.
I can see that the consequences of this will, of course, be that people are getting even more fear because I have a problem when I have lectures or when I try to have exhibitions that most things are cancelled because of fright.
This occasion here will, of course, make this even worse.
People will be very scared for everything that has to be done.
And I suppose that there will also be a consequence in the censorship.
Because who dares to publish anything after this happening?
Yeah, that's exactly how I expect the happiest place on earth to be.
People are more afraid.
They're fearful.
They're self-censoring.
They actually had an overnight curfew.
They told people to stay in their house.
They couldn't even get on the streets.
Does anyone else see that this is whether something's real or set up or false flag or not?
It doesn't matter.
The media immediately goes to terrorize people into thinking that, oh, we're screwed.
We're next.
They're coming for us.
And this is happening all over Europe.
We had the phony baloney gun guy in the Netherlands who walked into the TV studio.
You're going to see more and more of this, but mainly the highlighting of it by the media to keep people very afraid.
The EU cyber laws and the EU protectionary measures and how they're going to be tracking people will be nothing.
Well, here's a nice little story called EU Goes Fascist Again.
The United States Senate has confirmed Ashton Carter to be the next Secretary of Defense.
The vote today was 93 to 5 with strong backing from both parties.
European Union leaders unanimously agreed today on far-reaching measures to fight terror.
They met in Brussels.
And call for removing internet content that is deemed to promote terrorism or extremism.
EU nations will also share airline passenger data and impose tougher border controls.
It's a response to last month's terror attacks in France.
Wow.
Woo-woo!
Wow.
Hello, Europe.
How are you feeling about that?
Let's talk to Gucci Hela Thorne Smith.
Thorning Schmidt.
Obama's girlfriend.
The selfie girlfriend.
Yes.
She runs the show over there.
Yeah.
And who we thought actually she would become a major player in the EU didn't happen.
And she actually did a little statement in English, which I thought was very astute.
She nailed it.
And it was from a press conference.
She did 15 minutes all in Danish, of course.
And I can, wow, if I were a little more drunk, I probably could have understood some of it.
But then someone said, hey, can you give us a statement in English?
And she nails it.
We feel certain now that it is a politically motivated attack, and thereby it is a terrorist attack.
We take this situation extremely seriously.
We are in a high alarm all over the country, and our main priority at this stage is to catch the perpetrators and make sure that we find them as soon as perpetrators So we can return once again to our deserved spot at the top of the list of happy people.
So this, of course, is all a part...
It's really all a part of the same thing.
How many people are in Europe, do you think?
I think it's like 400 million.
Yeah, it's up there.
Something like us.
No, there's more.
There's definitely more.
So 400 million people, and now we have the incident in France, which resulted in a death of eight people.
And then we had two people hurt in this, so we have a total of ten.
Also interesting, the France thing, which was picked up by, certainly by Netanyahu, but by the conservative think tanks, everyone saying, oh, this is anti-Semitism, anti-Semitism.
The administration, the Obama administration, is saying it was random, it really had nothing to do with anti-Semitism, which would explain, I guess, partially why he wasn't there when they had the march.
And maybe it's because the only way I can see the Obama administration saying this was not anti-Semitism while everyone else is saying it is because they're responsible.
And they said, no, no, man, we wanted to cause some crap.
Well, my point is different.
Okay.
We have 400 million people, 10 people who were killed in these incidents.
So we're dealing with, the chances of this happening to you, 1 in 40 million.
Powerball's got better odds than that.
So 1 in 40 million, with the opportunity of 1 in 40 million people being hurt or, say, killed by a terrorist based on these two incidents...
You're going to change all the laws and crack down on the whole of the public.
Does this make any sense to anybody except somebody who's trying to force fascism on the world so they can maybe push through this one world order thing?
We have the same kind of odds here with the crap that goes on in the United States.
Even if you take the 10 years or 12 years or 15 years since 9-11 and you count all the dead from all the terrorism that took place, which is all that one event, the odds of it happening to any one person with no protection is almost nil.
People have no idea.
People do not take enough math.
Statistics should be required on everybody.
You wouldn't be having people panicking.
John, how can you fight?
How can you fight against this when the telescreen is pumping nothing but this stuff through everyone's brain?
There's no fighting that.
It's beautiful.
So the president is still looking for his big hearings on Capitol Hill.
Big hearings about are we going to go ahead with this authorization for the use of military force on a broad scale that the president himself would hold this power to kill anybody who just looks like they're related to terrorism.
Anywhere.
And they brought out the shills, man.
Wow!
So whenever you see a former or retired guy, you've got to go to the Book of Knowledge and find out who he's working for.
Lieutenant General Flynn, retired.
He's all in.
He feels that it's absolutely necessary to give the President this authorization.
He pretty much says, but we really have to have boots on the ground.
We can have no restrictions, but we need some kind of strategy.
And he, of course, is a member of the Project for the New American Security, which is...
I think we've looked at this outfit before.
Yeah.
Because it's so close to what was PNAC, the Project for a New American Century, which arguably were the guys who called...
Well, they published a paper saying, oh, we should have a new Pearl Harbor, maybe fly some jets into buildings.
And so this guy...
Hold on a second.
Where is this outfit?
Project for a New American Security.
Look at who's in this thing, John.
Project for a New American Security, which is, of course, that's all we need.
Security will solve all of us, all of our problems.
It's actually Center for New American Security.
I'm sorry.
I misquoted that.
And in this, you will see, okay, about CNAS. Screw the executive team.
Let's go right to the board of directors.
General John Allen, retired.
Oh, Dick Armitage.
Isn't John Allen the guy who was having the affair with the girl that brought down Petraeus?
Could be.
I don't keep track of that.
We've got the Rand Corporation in there.
We've got...
Now, interesting, Tim Westergren from Pandora Radio is on the board.
What's he doing in there?
Huh.
Well, I don't see him on here.
Down the bottom, on the board of directors.
That's interesting.
Right?
Yeah.
I wonder.
Sometimes it could be the same investors.
Sometimes it's possible, but still it's a strange board position.
The Advisors is even more fun.
Ford Motor Company.
We got Dalian Family, of course.
Chicago.
Got to have those guys in there.
We got more RAND, more...
What else do we have here?
JPMorgan Chase, of course.
Boeing.
Armitage again.
Princeton.
Makes so much sense.
Yeah, and Harvard.
So, you know, this guy is testifying with an agenda.
In our House of Representatives.
Yeah.
Okay, so you need to know these things and look at it.
It shouldn't be testifying at all.
No.
At least somebody should bring this up.
They should disclaim.
Seems to me.
You would think.
What I do have...
We have visiting fellows.
Those are the guys who come and do right reports.
I have a breakdown for anyone who's interested.
Ooh, this is an interesting one.
The 20YY Warfare Initiative.
I'll look that up while you're talking.
We were talking about the inherent right of self-defense of the United States and where that came from.
You tried to help me understand the word inherent.
Once again, it's...
Brian the Gay Crusader put together a four-page document for us, which is now marked up as beautifully formatted.
This guy is pretty amazing.
It's all based on Article 51 of the United Nations Charter.
And...
By the technicality of Article 51, we really don't have the inherent right unless we are attacked.
But this has been changed.
I'm going to really condense all this, which has been changed into the self-defense in response to an imminent attack.
And we all know what imminent means.
That's been broadly, very broadly defined.
Thirteen years from now.
Same as enduring.
Enduring, yeah.
But if you go back to even the 2003 invasion of Iraq, which was done under the same inherent right of individual and collective self-defense, we really don't have that.
It really does not apply to the wording of the charter.
That's just something that you can print that out if you want to.
It's a nice little one-pager, and the words are bolded that you need for talking points.
So when you're asked by Fareed Zakaria to go out and explain it, you can use that.
Also, in this conversation, another outfit, which I had not heard of, Start.
And START is a part of a university initiative, and they maintain the terror database.
START releases the full global terrorism database data set for 2014.
We anticipate it will include over 15,000 terrorist attacks.
Our preliminary data from the first nine months of 2014 suggests that seven of the ten most lethal groups in 2014 were violent jihadist groups, and ISIL among them conducted more terrorist attacks than any other terrorist organization.
So he's going to show 15,000 attacks in this year alone?
Really?
That's what he says.
This is a part of the University of Maryland College Park.
I think everybody who takes a pot shot in the Middle East, that would be considered a terrorist attack.
Well, we know a weapon of mass destruction can be a firecracker.
Right.
It's a cherry bomb, I think.
It has to be at least a cherry bomb, right.
Canada now, also rolling out what I would think a version of the six-week cycle.
They had another scare.
Authority stopped a planned mass shooting at a public place.
How can you know if it's a mass shooting if it hasn't taken place?
A planned mass shooting at a public place.
Two men and a woman arrested.
Fourth suspect found dead.
Don't know what happened there.
Huh.
Planned mass shooting.
Planned mass.
Boy, they're just going and they're doing everything they can.
Well, we knew it was going to happen to Canada, but there it is.
So I really...
I don't feel good about what I'm seeing.
It seems to me that we're going to see...
Well, no, don't forget that we do have an event scheduled for the first of March within a week, one way or the other.
And so we'll have that covered on our show.
And since we just predicted it, we predicted it, I guess, last month, sometime ago in January.
We'll see if something happens.
And you, the way you have the Today Show, the way you're doing Today Show, you're...
It's foreboding numerous possibilities with the plane, the air traffic control.
ATC seems like a good one.
We need to get the cyber stuff moving.
Look at the push, man.
Look at the push.
It's a big push.
Right.
They're ready for it.
Got the whole summit going on.
We know this is bad.
Which also, by the way, makes me kind of folding in my thesis that they've cracked all encryption.
This would be the time to do stuff because now it's almost as though, oh, God, there's still one more thing we haven't been able to do.
Oh, we got it.
We got the encryption.
Roll out the program.
Yeah.
Because that's what it sounds like.
Because there's, like you just said, a hectic nature.
Yes.
Like we got everything.
All the ducks are in a row.
There's nothing new coming around that's going to, you know, foil any of this.
And we can just see what happens.
Let's create an event.
See what happens.
And then start listening in to the people that we suspect are involved in this sort of thing.
Who have an Amazon Echo.
They'll turn everything on.
Amazon Echo.
We are listening.
Get everything going.
And we actually, we even cleaned up another little mess.
Ron Klain got a nice little goodbye from the president.
Thank you very much.
You remember Ron Klain?
No, I don't.
Here's the statement.
When I asked Ron Klain last fall to become the administration's Ebola response coordinator, the apprehension and even fear of Ebola in the United States was at its peak right around midterm elections.
Likewise, there was more than a little skepticism from some corners at the selection of Ron to fulfill this function.
Yeah, because he's a political operative and it was used to, you know, lose the elections.
Last summer, as...
Wow.
Okay, stop, stop.
Fuck me!
Oh, shit!
Overwhelming public health systems.
I don't know what's going on.
It's possessed.
It's fucking possessed.
Stop, stop.
Why would it be?
Stop, stop, stop.
It's possessed.
I think you're the pad.
It may be the pad.
I think you're right.
Because the pad sounds like it's dying because you obviously pushed an Ebola guy.
No, no, I didn't.
That started by itself.
Coincidentally with an Ebola clip?
Well, hello, I have it lined up.
I'm producing the show.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
But I'm playing one clip and then the other one starts firing for no reason.
Did you touch anything?
Only myself.
Well, besides that, but you do that all the time on the show.
I mean, did you touch anything on the pad?
No, no, no.
I just turned it off.
Hold on.
I have a backup.
Let me plug this one in.
I'm sorry.
I think the pad is...
It could be.
Shit.
And I have an identical, because it's a Behringer.
They don't make them anymore, so I bought another one smartly.
For good reason.
Sorry.
I bought another one, but it's at the house.
But I can use my mobile.
Hold on.
I have my mobile, which is a little Korg, and this should at least prove what the problem is.
Hold on.
Wow.
Sorry.
I think you're right.
It's either that, but it could be something bad.
Like, the Mac could be dying.
No, I doubt it.
Macs never have problems.
Yeah, okay.
It would be the pad.
Let me see.
You know, it's a crappy...
The engineering on those pads isn't...
But what you're seeing, it's like there's a loose connection because all the lights just start flickering and doing stuff.
Yeah, it sounds like a pad.
Okay.
Let's go back and we'll try this clip again.
Last summer, as Ebola spread in West Africa, overwhelming public health systems.
Threatening to cross more borders.
I said that fighting this disease had to be more than a national security priority, but an example of American leadership.
So we can go take over your country.
After all, whenever and wherever a disaster or disease strikes, the world looks to us to lead.
Because we rocks.
And because of extraordinary people...
He's got people in doctors' outfits and military and all kinds of cool stuff.
Oh yeah, I saw this.
The ones standing behind me and many who are in the audience...
We have risen to the challenge.
We have risen to the challenge.
What did we do?
Remember, there was no small amount of skepticism about our chances.
Especially from those no-agenda a-holes.
People were understandably afraid.
Oh, I'm sorry.
That wasn't nice.
You're talking about somebody else.
Yeah, really.
And if we're honest, some stoked those fears.
Yeah, Republicans.
Yeah, you, right.
Ron Klain.
But we believe that if we made policy based not on fear, but on sound science.
Science.
And good judgment.
America could lead an effective global response while keeping the American people safe.
We can turn the tide to the epidemic.
Ebola, it comes from Africa.
Ebola It comes from Africa So we're done.
We're good to go.
We solved everything just in the nick of time.
And we're just going to keep everybody there for another year or so.
What?
Just in case.
Just in case.
You don't know.
You had to pull them out, you had to put them back in.
It costs too much money to move that many people back and forth.
But if you look at the...
There was another document.
They had an Ebola summit, which was not really covered.
And I just need to tell you about this.
So they do release this information on the whitehouse.gov website.
President Obama today met with 13 private sector and foundation leaders who have joined the international response to end the Ebola epidemic by providing urgent assistance, mobilizing public interest in action, and setting the stage for recovery.
This is very interesting to me.
I thought this was a military response, a USAID response, but apparently we have 13 private sector and foundation leaders.
The President thanked participants for contributing to the program achieved thus far and encouraged them to sustain the momentum.
Sustain the momentum.
The president also urged continued vigilance to end the Ebola epidemic and shared views about the next steps to achieve a resilient and Ebola-free West Africa, which is, Ebola-free won't happen.
The president reiterated his commitment to, here it is, they've got a title, Get to Zero.
They love this, these guys.
Hey, we've got a slogan, Get to Zero.
Let's look at the private sector participants.
We have Rio Tinto, General Electrics Foundation, the Skull Foundation, that's the guy who did...
Yeah, we did Skull.
Mill and Belinda Gates Foundation, Paul G. Allen Family Foundation...
Oh, he's gotten sucked into this.
Jacqueline Fuller, Google, Joel Kaplan, Facebook...
Randy Newcomb from Humanity United.
Ed Martinez from UPS Foundation.
Then we have Lucy Southworth from the Larry Page Family Foundation.
What is this?
These people are all so concerned with Ebola.
What are they doing?
And what have they done to help get to zero?
Well, I can see Rio Tinto Mining Company, huge mining company.
Skull being just sleazy.
General Electric could be anything.
But now we've got all these kind of do-gooders coming in out of the blue.
For what purpose?
And it's all tech.
We don't see the Ford Foundation listed?
Nope.
Is Catherine D. MacArthur Foundation any of that group?
No, no.
I don't see that.
How about the Kaiser Permanente Foundation?
Yeah, that would make sense actually for them to be involved.
No.
Because they're doctors.
No.
No, not there.
But so we have a bunch of tech companies.
Why?
Why, why, why are tech companies involved?
In West Africa.
Yes, and they're helping apparently.
Why?
What have they done?
Oh, and Jeffrey Wright, actor Jeffrey Wright, who is he?
Jeffrey Wright, the actor?
Yeah, what does he do?
I don't know.
Let's take a look.
Jeffrey Wright.
We've probably seen him if we just go look up Jeffrey.
Jeffrey Wright, the actor.
What the hell was he in?
Let's see.
HBO miniseries, Angels in America.
He's an American film television stage actor.
He's known for his roles in Belize, the HBO miniseries Angels in America.
So he's going to be a spokeshole.
I guess he has to...
Yeah, he's black.
Well, what does that have to do with it?
Well, you're going to be in Africa.
Oh, wow.
I'm not telling you people what to do.
Ah, it's strategy.
Okay.
Wow.
Good, good, good.
I did catch a little Mel and Belinda Gates this morning on Fareed Zakaria's show.
And let me see if I can find this quickly.
And they were at Davo.
Davo.
I thought that was over.
Well, yeah, but I think he was...
Still skiing.
Still skiing, and this was...
Hmm, where did this go?
It had to be a while ago.
It was really strange, because you had Bill sitting the furthest away from him.
This is on a typical podium interview.
And so Melinda is sitting very close, and she's really answering all the questions.
It was more about education, but they also go into all kinds of other stuff.
Oh, here it is.
Here we go.
Just listen to their thinking.
How this woman, I will call her this woman, really believes that she's going to save all the poor children.
What about education and technology?
Where do you see its role in transforming education?
Yes, so today we predominantly focus on education.
Oh yeah, yes-o, yes-o, yes-o, yes-o.
And Bill is just sitting there rocking away.
She's taking over the whole joint.
Predominantly focus on education in the United States.
We feel like the biggest inequity is still our education system.
It is fundamentally broken.
Really?
It is fundamentally broken?
Fundamentally broken?
I don't know how that works.
I don't think that's true.
And if anything is the worst inequity, it's got to be the justice system.
The fact that only a third of the kids who graduate high school are really prepared to go on to college.
What?
Graduate high school, not graduate from high school?
When is she picking up this lingo?
This is the European statement.
This is elites.
This is how they talk.
When they graduate high school, they maybe go to hospital.
Yes.
This is fine if you live in, you know, Holland.
That's the way they would say it.
It's not the way Americans talk.
...prepared to go on to college.
You just can't have a public education system like that and have a great democracy.
Hold on.
Public education system like that and have a great democracy.
And by the way, she goes on to tout charter schools, which really has nothing to do with it.
Listen to this.
Key, key thing in education.
Key, key thing.
Okay.
The what?
What did she say?
The key, key thing.
Key, key thing?
What is that?
It's the key that unlocks the key.
To education.
Did she say key, key thing?
Yes.
Democracy.
The key, key thing in education is having access to a fantastic teacher.
We know that a fantastic teacher gets more learning to gain from the kids, but what we're finding is, in the U.S., getting a great teacher in front of every kid, if you have the digital tools that go along with that, The digital tools.
Wait, what can you do with the digital tools?
He or she can then personalize the lesson.
Oh, we're going to personalize the lesson.
Computer learning.
And then when I come home, my fridge will have already ordered me milk and cookies.
Yay!
Because it's the Internet of Things.
We're going to personalize the lesson.
Dream on, Melinda.
And then personalize the lesson.
And that really draws kids in.
Ha!
Wow, it really draws a name.
And I think over time in the developing world, if you're a kid living in a rural area, and let's say you have a good teacher up to maybe fourth grade, but you just don't have access to a great high school teacher in science or a college professor, if you're actually a motivated kid, eventually you'll be able to get a lot of that online.
And that's when I think it will be even more transformative in the rest of the world.
And it may be some fantastic professor in India or somebody that's a great professor in China or some teacher that you hear about in the UK. That's when you start to get kids.
No, no.
Netflix.
Netflix.
That motivates kids.
Even Africa.
She actually brings in the truth factor a little earlier in the sentences where she says, you know, you have some kid, a good teacher in the fourth grade, and then they don't have them anymore, but they're a very motivated kid to begin with.
They're very motivated.
And yes, if you're motivated, I could go to one of these online systems, and there's bunches of them.
Linda, if I wanted to get a little better at Photoshop, for example.
I could go on these systems.
I'm motivated, and I can learn a lot.
But if you're not motivated because you don't care, the guy could be a genius who's not going to help.
I just like the whole, they're going to personalize the lesson for you.
Oh yeah, this is just selling more machines into the schools.
By the way, has anyone ever noticed that the decline in all this, everything, the stupidity of the kids and the bad classes and the lousy grades and the declining scores and the whole thing coincides beautifully with the computer revolution almost year for year?
The longer it's been in play, the more computers that go in schools, the worse people are.
Does anyone...
Put that two and two together?
Well, that's interesting.
Because again, I refer to the works of Theodore Kaczynski with Industrial Society and his future.
I get to do it at least once every show.
This is exactly what happens.
This is exactly what happens.
New meme, by the way.
Evidence-based solutions.
You're going to hear a lot of this.
I haven't heard...
I got a quick clip from Nicholas Kristof.
He's a New York Times writer, isn't he?
Nicholas Kristof?
He's one of the number one, he's in the top of the group of the neocons.
Oh, he's not, he just does op-eds probably.
He does op-eds.
Yeah, that could be.
Let's look him up so we don't have anybody thinking about it.
You look him up, I'll play him on PBS NewsHour with the meme.
An awful lot of kids who desperately need help, who didn't do anything wrong, and it's a certain amount of social irresponsibility on the part of all of us if we don't use evidence-based solutions to try to give them a chance to get to the starting line.
You're going to hear a lot of this, evidence-based solutions, because it kind of does away with any objection.
Sorry, this is an evidence-based solution.
What's the evidence?
He's a New York Times op-ed guy.
The evidence will, of course, be 97% of all scientists agree.
What's your problem?
But it's a meme that you're going to hear a lot of.
I can feel this coming.
Evidence-based solutions.
I agree.
It sounds great.
It sounds like people can use it.
I don't think people will pick up on it as a cliche for a while so it could last six months, maybe.
It'll fall off.
It's going to be one of those meme of the month things.
We'll see.
Alright.
Do you want to talk about ISIL for a moment?
Excellent report.
Do you want to talk about ISIL for a moment?
Just a brief second.
Or Russia?
What can we do here?
There's a lot of Russia stuff.
I do have a good...
I'm sorry.
Did you see the Saturday Night Live ISIS skit?
No.
Oh, man.
It was like they listened to a year's worth of No Agenda and wrote a skit about it.
Maybe somebody on the staff did.
You want to hear some of it?
Sure.
So what they did is they had Shark Tank.
And it was very funny.
And Miley Cyrus was the crazy, the bitch woman.
And I, of course, did not see the show, but someone sent me a link to the full clip.
This is just a piece of it.
So they're doing Shark Tank with Mark Cuban.
And so it's very funny.
But the two guys pitching are ISIS. And they got the flag and their logo.
They got their AK-47s and their pitching.
And the whole discussion we've always had about the branding, about everything, is all in this.
Have a listen.
And if you get tired of it, let me know.
Back up.
You just gave yourself a valuation of $40 billion.
How are you getting that number?
Well, Mark Cuban, we are making $5 million a day on stolen oil.
This, of course, we've investigated this.
Wow.
Now that is interesting.
Okay, first of all, it's taking a lot of courage to look you in the eye, and I like that about you.
But here's my problem, honey.
I'm hearing ISIS, ISIS, ISIS, but your pamphlet says ISIL. You're lucky unified brands.
It's like we wrote this, John.
Yeah, unified brands.
Barbara's right, and I don't need a pamphlet.
I need numbers.
You say you're growing fast.
Show me.
For you, Mr.
Wonderful, of course.
Aloha!
This map shows our land holdings.
We now control this entire region of unusable land.
Okay, but what's so special about your Islamic state?
What's stopping me from going out and doing the exact same thing?
It's like they combine the Silicon Valley pitch with ISIL.
ISIS.
I-S.
You want to hear more?
Yeah, a little bit.
Wait, wait, wait.
Back up a minute.
Back up a minute.
How have you managed to grow this fast?
Two things, Damon.
A crack social media team and good old-fashioned word of bullet.
By the way, Damon, we are prepared to make your clothing brand, FUBU, the official retailer of the Islamic State.
I'm listening. - No, no, no.
Hold on just a second, Damon.
When numbers seem too good to be true, they usually are.
Genocidal regimes are a very tricky business.
I've been burned before.
For that reason, I'm out.
No, no, no, no.
It goes on and on and on.
Okay.
They could have brought a Toyota gag in.
That they didn't do.
I was waiting for it.
All right, let's talk about Russia, what's going on.
The ceasefire began, and this is a big deal.
I have a couple of kind of a rundown from, and this is an RT, of course.
Yeah, good.
What was, essentially, where is this?
Is this the RT summarized?
Ceasefire plus money, IMF. You don't want this summarized as peace talks?
Oh, that's it.
Yeah, I think that's the one you're looking for, right?
Okay, hold on.
That is six.
It's not the best night of my life, but I do think it's a good morning.
The peace deal includes a ceasefire starting on Sunday that was agreed upon by all sides.
Also the withdrawal of heavy artillery and the creation of a so-called safety zone.
Another major resolution is to launch the process of a political settlement that would include constitutional reform, and that would cement a special status for the Eastern Republics, which includes an amnesty for anti-government fighters, a right to use the Russian language freely, and cross-border cooperation with Russia.
Though all of that took a lot of time and effort from the leaders, 16 hours to be precise.
The Russian foreign minister described the talks as better than super, while President Poroshenko has stepped out several times to quietly use his phone.
At around 4 a.m., though, everyone thought it was over.
No, no, no.
Fresh coffee was being wheeled in.
Putin!
Right.
So Poroshenko's going in and out of the meetings, talking on the phone to who?
Well, we're listening.
This is supposed to be one of the systems where you're the boss.
Of course, he's calling a noodle man in McCain.
Yeah.
What am I supposed to do here?
Well, I fear that we are going to see a true Russian invasion in eastern Ukraine within the month.
Did I put that in the book?
Yeah, you actually should.
Here's something nutty that came out today.
This is truly nutty.
It's in the alternative Conspiria, but it also...
See, I think it also was in the Washington Post, mind you?
Let me see who also posted this.
Oh, shoot.
I'm glad I saved this offline.
Well, it started in Pravda.
Okay, well, that's the truth, obviously.
You're going to love this.
Apparently, there is a threat from Vladimir Putin that if things don't go the way he wants, he has Russian satellite evidence proving 9-11 was a controlled demolition and he is going to release this evidence to the world.
I like it.
You know, Pravda is not even the Russian spokeshole anymore.
It hasn't been for 25 years.
And it's always running stories about various towns and various aliens who have set up shop in Russia.
Yes, yes.
Yes, I noticed.
And it is funny because it's actually the directed energy weapons is mentioned in here, which has always been my theory.
Well, we'll see.
I'm just saying it's out there.
I hope he does something.
It would be kind of funny.
It would give us more fodder.
It would be better than 28 pages.
That's for sure.
The one thing that I thought was a little sidelight.
Sarkozy stuck his nose in.
Mm-hmm.
To make a comment.
And I thought this was very interesting because it's one of those things that he's obviously back in the game in some way and he's also stooging for Russia with this commentary.
But I have to say, this is one of the few times I've heard any of these politicians at that level show any signs of logic.
But not all politicians share Kerry's perspective.
Former French President Nicolas Sarkozy recently saying Crimea, which Russia is accused of illegally annexing, made its own choice and had the right to do so.
Crimea has chosen Russia, and we cannot blame it for doing so.
Just like I impressed on Putin to let the Kosovars separate from Serbia.
If Kosova has the right to separate from Serbia, I don't see how we can say with the same reasoning that Crimea doesn't have the right to leave Ukraine, to join Russia.
You know, he better not be eating any oysters, this Sarkozy guy.
He's not on board with the program.
What is he thinking?
Yeah, I know he needs to sell ships and stuff, but come on.
Wow.
Newsweek says...
I have no idea what that was about.
Newsweek says, biggest NATO reinforcement since Cold War sets front lines against Russia.
This is Newsweek.
Which means we're just ramping it up.
Here is the...
Former ambassador to Russia, who speaks fluent Russian, Ukrainian, and he was, I think it might have been the press club.
Not a well-covered event.
It was something I kind of tripped across on C-SPAN 3.
He thinks that we are really doing a huge disservice to the world by trying to spark whatever crap we want to spark with Russia through Ukraine.
I respect and love the people in Ukraine, and I do know them.
I was probably the only American ambassador to the Soviet Union who could and did make speeches in Ukrainian when I went to Kyiv, as well as in Russian when I was in Moscow.
I do know that country.
I know its literature and its culture.
I prize it.
My heart goes out to the people who are going through hell in eastern Ukraine this winter.
But, I'll tell you, if the United States gets further involved in what is in the minds of the Russians' territory, which historically has been part of their country, given the present atmosphere, I don't see how we are going to prevent another nuclear arms race.
And that's what scares me.
Shut up, slave!
Yay!
There was a report that there was a nuke that was set off in Ukraine.
There's some video that I put in the show notes.
Yeah, exactly.
But here's the real news.
We now have a brand new head of the Advisory International Council of Reforms.
This is an advisory council for the president of Ukraine.
Guess who is heading that up?
I will probably be shocked when I find out.
Yes.
The former Prime Minister of Georgia, Sakersvili.
Our man in Georgia.
Yeah, they brought the tie-eating, war-starting dude to advise.
He's one of ours.
Yeah, he's one of our guys.
One of our guys to advise.
Yeah, that way they won't make the same mistake.
And then finally I have, oh yes, look for, if I were to call another, some kind of aggression type thing, we'd have to have something in Ireland.
Ireland needs new jets.
They feel that their Air Corps, their Air Force is just really not up to snuff.
So I think probably we'll see.
What's for their what?
Who are they battling?
Who are the Irish battling?
Well, they just need jets.
Who gives a shit?
Well, why?
To be badass.
Just to spend money.
You know how it works.
The country that's in, right now, they're in austerity.
Why are they buying jets?
They're making their people pay for water for the first time and people are upset about that.
Yeah, that's why they're going to go buy some jets.
Huh.
Yeah.
Which will need some NATO-type thing because of Russian aggression.
This is all about that.
And by the way, while we're still talking about the Ukraine thing, while George is trying to do deals, meanwhile, play this clip here, ceasefire plus money.
IMF is going to just throw more money at Ukraine.
As the peace plan was announced, Ukraine also got good news from the International Monetary Fund.
Good news!
It agreed to finance a new bailout deal worth $17.5 billion to shore up the country's battered finances.
Excellent.
Woo-hoo!
Excellent.
Good work.
Here's an interesting one, too.
Another clip is out of the blue.
This changes the subject a little bit.
I think we're done with Russia.
It does relate to our FBI guy who was HSBC. Comey.
Comey.
Now, they got nailed because they were laundering...
Everything.
You wanted to launder drug money, weapons money, you went to HSBC. Yeah, it was out of control and apparently still is.
Play the HSBC clip, which is just a few of the things going on around this bank.
British banking giant HSBC admitted today to major misdeeds by its Swiss unit amid new disclosures of how it helped launder drug money and dodge taxes.
The claims came from the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists based on leaked documents.
Javon Kennedy of Independent Television News has our report.
It's one of the world's biggest banks.
But what secretive business was carried out in the snowy mountains of the Swiss Alps?
Did HSBC knowingly allow its private Swiss arm to help wealthy clients conceal billions of dollars worth of income from the tax man?
Data released today appears to show just that.
These latest allegations cast a further shadow on HSBC, which is already facing multiple prosecutions because of its alleged tax activities around the world.
Now, new revelations that it deliberately colluded with clients to help them avoid tax, set up bank accounts for known criminals and aggressively marketed tax avoidance schemes raise yet more questions.
The man in charge while all this was going on was Stephen Green, a Church of England minister.
He spent the majority of his working life at the bank.
Today's HSBC revelations cover the period 2005 to 2007, exactly when Stephen Green was in charge.
The Conservatives insist that all this happened on Labour's watch in a period of little or no regulation of the big banks.
In a statement, HSBC said, we acknowledge and are accountable for past compliance and control failures.
It added that the Swiss bank had not been fully integrated into HSBC, allowing different cultures and standards to persist.
With hindsight, it's clear that too many small and high risk accounts were maintained.
U.S. regulators fined HSBC in 2012 for letting criminals use its branches for money laundering.
Wait a minute.
Wasn't Comey in there in 2012?
I think he was.
He was on the board of directors, wasn't he?
Well, I'd have to look that up, and I can't do that easily.
But why are they throwing this green guy under the bus?
That's what I'd like to know.
I think there's more to this.
There's more is going to be.
Well, somebody has to.
They just threw a bunch of chum out there for journalistic sharks to go after.
I'm not sure.
Well, let me look.
I got Comey here, and let me just see where he was.
I'm pretty sure 2012 he was.
Well, we know in 2004 what he was doing.
Very important work of convicting Martha Stewart.
Very important work he's done.
Yeah, well, they got to finally put her where she deserved to be in the slammer for doing nothing.
For lying to an agent.
I don't even see HSBC on here.
What is that?
Come on, have they taken it out of his wiki page already?
Probably.
Wow.
Wait, that can't be.
Hold on.
HSBC. Here we go.
In 2010, he became General Counsel of Bridgewater Associates.
Oh, that's a good one.
That's what Stex always want.
These Bridgewater Associates...
I'm going to jump back into that.
In early 2013...
Ah, okay.
He left Bridgewater and joined the Board of Directors at HSBC. So he may not have...
What was early 2013?
So I think he would have had to know, or as a board member, you do have responsibility to know what's going on in the operation.
Yeah, they knew.
But the Bridgewater Associates, they do government, central banks, this investment management firm.
That is a huge one.
This guy is an uber shill and he's in the hen house.
And no one seems to care.
No, no, nobody cares.
Just before we get to our segment here, there's something that I've been...
See, this came out last month, January, and it didn't get a lot of play for obvious reasons, but it is a survey, actually a study done by Oxford Biochronometrics...
And the title of it is Quantifying Online Advertising Fraud, Ad Click Bots vs.
Humans.
Oh!
And I figured I'd...
I have it marked up in the show notes if you're interested.
If this gets played, the whole thing comes to a grind.
Except for us.
Yeah.
The whole internet scheme scam.
Allow me to read the abstract.
We present the results of research to determine the ratio of ad clicks that are human initiated against those that are initiated by automated computer programs commonly known as ad bots.
The research was conducted over a seven day period in early January 2015 using the advertising platforms of Google, Yahoo, LinkedIn, and Facebook.
The results showed...
Are you ready for the number?
...that between 88 and 98% of all ad clicks were by a bot of some kind, with over 10% of these bots being of a highly advanced type able to mimic human behavior to an advanced extent, thus requiring highly advanced behavioral modeling to detect them.
Wow.
98%.
Wow.
Yeah, how come no one's talking about this?
Why would no one mention this?
Yeah, gee, I wonder.
That is so fantastic.
Well, the problem is, again, I don't want to harp on this, and I want people out there listening to this show to realize this.
The problem with a lot of these, covering a lot of this stuff, is like the unwritten rule between Disney and...
Yeah, you don't shit in your own bed, is what that is.
You don't do it.
So I'm a writer for PC Magazine.
There's a lot of stuff on there.
Who knows?
Maybe 98% of it is being click-botted.
Well, bot-clicked.
Oh, no, that's got to be 99.9%.
Well, whatever it is, I'm not going to write about it in the magazine.
I just can't do that because it's like, why am I doing this?
Yeah, exactly.
Because I get paid by this magazine and I'm not there to make the magazine go away.
And who, like, these shows, all these guys on these podcasts that are talking about, you know, one thing or another.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, if you call and buy the product, then you can pretty much be assured that it's not illegitimate.
But how many people are doing that?
What's the numbers on these deals?
It seems to me that it's just like the podcast awards.
Are the podcast awards now taking votes?
I don't know, but we know how the nominations work.
It's...
Did we get nominated?
I have no idea.
I don't think the nominations are out.
But I don't want to stray from the topic that this advertising thing...
I'll bet you we have people in our audience that are involved in this scam.
And they get paid good money.
What do you think?
Don't you think that we must have guys like that?
Of course.
Of course.
And they're going to tell us.
They're going to email us.
They're going to tell us what it's all about, and then they're going to probably maybe do us a favor, if you know what I... I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fun.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
Whoa!
There you go.
Okay, we have a few people to thank for show 696.
Four shows away from 700.
700 podcasts.
That's pretty astonishing.
I did get...
I want to start off by mentioning and thanking Dennis and his wife, toy designer.
Let's see.
What is her name?
Well, let me read the note and you'll get it.
I know you guys have said don't send blankets or water, just send cash, but here's your own personal kitty to hug and cuddle.
Although we live in Pine Grove near Sutter Creek, my wife is a toy designer for Folk Mons or Folk Monies, F-O-L-K-M-A-N-I-S, puppets in Emeryville just down the hill from your compound.
She works at home and drives to Emeryville once in a while to talk to her bosses, the Mr. and Mrs. Folk Monies.
The company is across from Pixar.
Check out the Folk Monies.com.
Roxy is her name.
Roxy designs most of the wildlife, some domestic critters like your kitty, and the name is Roxy in the Folkman site.
So I get sent, is it worth about, maybe not on here, but 35 bucks, a cat, which is a puppet.
And the cat looks like a real cat, and I don't have a cat anymore because JC and Jesse moved to the house that they should be living in, and they took the cat, horrible beast, with them.
And now I have a fake cat that looks like a real cat sitting there, and I wanted to thank these people for sending me this cat.
It also talks, by the way, if you put your hand in it.
Yeah.
Okay.
A shaggy dog story with no ending.
Well, yeah, you're right.
So let's thank Gilles Pavot in Paris, France, one of our actual Paris, France dwellers.
Nice.
Of $151.28, which I will read the note because it's so rare.
Long overdue donation.
Slowly building my way to knighthood.
Previous work job exam, karma worked.
And now a...
Certain project human resource.
And I see this cut off.
I can't really read this part of it.
Do I have it here?
Now, yes.
Could I ask some karma plus le matin?
Boom shakalaka for my newly expected family.
Expanded family.
Thanks a lot for keeping our brains awake.
Duration is good.
Merci.
And he says, give the...
Nota bene.
Jean, give a try to the Bourgogne...
Bourgogne Aligoté.
I've had Bourgogne Aligoté, and they don't send the good ones over here.
So I can get a better...
I can get a Macon or some of these other lesser white burgundies that are much tastier for a lot less money.
I'm going to give him his request.
L'Amazon!
Boom Chocolata!
Boom Chocolata!
You've got karma.
You could use that.
John Fletcher in Longville, Texas.
One, two, three, five.
That's John Fletcher.
That is John Fletcher.
And I believe one, two, three, five, eight are prime numbers?
Yeah, he keeps sending us.
No, it's a Fibonacci number.
A Fibonacci number.
I'm sorry, yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
Fibonacci numbers.
This is golden ratio, right?
Something?
Sir James Briscoe in Bayshore, New York, $117.17.
I'll put some karma for you at the end there, Cameron.
Some grade A karma.
We'll get that.
Sir Cameron Dodd in Dry Creek, Louisiana, $100.
Well, I think he missed James Briscoe.
James Briscoe in Bayshore, New York, $117.17.
I'm pretty sure I said something.
Maybe I was wrong.
Oh, no.
Steven Chipman.
That's who I missed.
That's who you missed, right.
One, two, three, four, five.
He wants the great A karma.
He wants great A karma.
Got it, got it, got it.
Right.
Now, Briscoe is in a lot, and he says he felt like a douchebag.
Hmm.
Because he hasn't donated for a while.
It's okay, man.
So put some karma at the end for you.
Absolutely.
Cameron Dodd in...
What is this?
Hold on a second.
There's one...
Oh, there it is.
Okay, never mind.
Cameron Dodd in Dry Creek, Louisiana.
$100.
Anonymous somewhere in Oklahoma.
$100.
Zachary Stanko in Omaha, Nebraska.
He actually sent in $50.
And then he sent $50 worth of goods.
So I'm crediting him with $100.
What kind of goods?
Well, I'm going to read this.
Let me read the note.
Thanks for all you do.
The show just keeps getting better and better and better.
This is my second $50 donation.
It feels great to do so.
I was first inspired to donate because of Adam's pre-show jams back on September 18th, 2014.
Four hours.
You did a four hour jam?
I think so, yeah.
Oh.
That was when your whole thing went out, your whole...
Oh, when I was down.
Yeah, you were down.
Yeah, I was down.
He really showcased how much love and passion you both put into your project, or product.
Product.
Enclosed is some goodies.
A 1937 pocket edition of the Constitution of the USSR, for John.
Nice.
A Soviet printed history book on the USSR, for John.
Vintage USSR stamps depicting the steamer ships, for John.
And a Baghdad International Airport Challenge coin, for Adam.
Yay!
Nice!
I like that, thank you.
Dingo, boom shakalaka.
Nice.
So I thought that was kind of interesting.
That's fantastic.
Scott Dexter, 99.99, Rockford, Michigan.
Simon Marchiniak in Poland.
Hey!
Simon, Simon, I don't know.
I should look that up next time.
Simon Marchiniak.
Yeah, Marchiniak.
I didn't donate at all in 2014.
I cannot let that pass.
We got the polls listening, man.
This is good.
It is good.
We need more inside info.
Yes.
Feed us some of the local lore.
Cafe gossip.
That was $71.
Kalen Nistor in Northville, Michigan, $70.
Wu Kach in Munich, München, Deutschland, $69.60.
Olaf Wolf, Also, this is interesting, in München, Deutschland, 6789.
Wesley Ante in Ruston, Louisiana, 5214.
J'aime ma femme, Misty.
J'aime ma femme.
I love my wife.
His wife is named Misty.
First time donor looking for a little shout-out for the best wife in the universe.
J'adore Dior.
Luke Rayner, London, UK, 5111.
He's going to be in Austin.
Yeah, he wants you to buy you a coffee.
Oh, shoot me an email.
I think he did.
No, I think you might have forwarded that to me, I recall.
Yeah, it could be.
Yeah, he's going to be in Austin.
Adam's up for anything.
These days, I'm up for anything.
Mark Dunford in Waco, Texas.
I'll take anything you got.
You should do a meet-up in Austin.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
You got a lot of people.
The guy from Waco, Mark will come down.
He'll come.
Yeah.
Oh, everyone will show.
West Sussex, UK. These are all $50 donors.
We don't have too many.
Chris Lewinsky in Sirwood Park.
Sir Chris.
Stanley Hong in Randwick, New South Wales, Australia.
Kelly Sandlin in Mountain Brook, Alabama.
Mm-hmm.
Patricia Worthington, I think is a dame in Miami.
Brandon Savoy, $50 from Parts Unknown.
Sir Mike Westerfield in Parts Unknown.
Sir Mark Tanner in Whittier.
And finally, Dame Melody Man in Ringgold, Louisiana, along with the anonymous lesbian who sent the note.
And she said, you have to read this note.
You're reading these notes.
Yeah, we like it.
But she's entertaining.
So I'm going to read this note.
Anonymous lesbian here.
Though I recently signed up for a regular PayPal donation, I felt compelled to add another check on top of that when I heard you announce in one of the last month's donation segments that you have another anonymous lesbian support.
I must admit, when I heard that, I felt an acute stab of jealousy.
What?
Another...
Anonymous lesbian?
By the way, you're the anonymous lesbian.
She's another anonymous lesbian.
I don't want to share my designation, which you really don't.
No, you are the anonymous lesbian.
After I calmed down, I realized I must be able to share all the good to show, and now I'm happy to know that the lesbian demographic may turn into a new cash cow for you guys.
I also feel that I should explain that my identifying myself to you as anonymous lesbian was always a private joke to me, because though I am homosexual, I have never been able to stand gay people.
Wow.
I have always found other gays irksome, boring, and downright irritating.
I always felt guilty about having these feelings towards...
Why?
Why?
That's beautiful.
That's what she says she has.
She felt guilty.
For heaven's animosity.
Until I heard on the show, which you featured, the Putin-Russia-hates-gays deconstruction by Brian the Gay Crusader.
That show was one of my first episodes, and it went on to become a pivotal moment in my life.
In her sexuality as well, I think.
All of a sudden, I realized that I don't really hate the gays.
I just hated being manipulated by the media.
I can never thank you too enough for removing the veil over my eyes.
Thank you for your courage, gentlemen.
Wow, that's a beautiful...
Sesbio Premium Anonymous.
Anonymous.
That actually kind of makes me feel good.
Yes, that was a very nice note.
And please let us also give props to Brian the Gay Crusader.
Yes.
Who did all the work on that, really.
Yeah.
You got him going, though, so you were the motivator.
Yeah, I keep promising him sex, that's why.
Well, keep holding out.
I'm playing hard to get.
And before we finish up, I do want to thank Viscount Jeffrey Gerlach, who has offered me kindly, in lieu of an Airstream, he has available for me a Camp Light, which is a beautiful trailer, brand new, And he sent me some pictures of it.
How do you spell that?
Let me look it up.
It's the Camp Lights.
Charlie, Alpha, Mike, Papa, Lima, India, Teco, Tango, Echo.
And it's the 16 DBS. Camp Light.
16.
16 DBS. The 2015 model.
What's he doing with it?
Well, the plan, he says, the plan is to use it next month.
I need to be the first person to take a shit in it.
Then it will likely sit again until Burning Man.
So I guess he has his Burning Man trailer.
Burning Man trailer.
It's a nice...
It's perfect.
It's a very good unit.
It's a little small.
No, I think it's...
It's a 16-footer.
Yeah, but it has a slide-out on this.
Look at the slide-out.
Oh, yeah, yeah, it does.
It's a good-looking unit.
Definitely...
For my Hot Pockets sorrow tour.
Just sorrow.
That'd be great.
The tour of sorrow.
Two years.
Okay.
That's beautiful.
He said it?
Yeah, he probably did.
I've been over to his place and I never saw that there, but okay.
It's brand new.
Thank you.
Well, I still need a little more time here to recollect everything.
Oh yeah, you got it.
There's no rush.
It'll all be good.
Well, thank you very much to our donors.
Also, everyone under $50, usually done for anonymity purposes, but we do have a lot of people who are under $33 a month.
And I love it when we get emails from people who say, hey, I can only do five.
Fine, thank you.
But that's all we ask for, really.
That's all.
Everybody can find $5.
And that really supports the work, and it keeps us going, and that is highly appreciated, so we can just continue moving forward.
Dvorak.org.
Strangely, I have zero birthdays today.
I don't think this has happened in a long time.
I didn't see any either of the reads.
So why don't we just get straight to our two knightings.
We have Mickey Keck, an insta-slave, who was our insta-knight, but he wants to be known as...
Do you have your sword?
Yeah, hold on.
There you go.
All right, Mickey Keck and Insta-slave, come on up, gentlemen!
Both of you have contributed to the best podcast in university amount of $1,000 or more, and we could not be more thankful.
Thank you so much.
So I hereby am happy to pronounce today the Sir Mickey Keck and Sir Insta-Slave Knights of the Noagent Roundtable for you gentlemen.
Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Malted Barley and Hops, Root Beer and Legos, Ass Cream with Bear Fillings, Girlfriend Experience and Good Bourbon, Cuban Cigars and Single Malt Scotch, Librarians and Jaeger Bombs, Rubenes Women and Rosé, Geishas and Sake, Vodka and Vanilla Bong hits and Bourbon, or maybe just...
Some mutton and mead.
Now go to noagenternation.com slash rings and tweet us when you receive your ring and your sealing wax and your certificate.
Tweet a picture.
We love seeing it.
And I do have to do a karma for everybody who requested it.
Do we have any F cancer?
No.
Okay, well good.
Don't laugh.
Why are you laughing?
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Yay!
All righty then.
Nice.
Okay, onward.
Yeah.
And those notes are all red, except for the ones that were on the email, in order, because they were stapled together in order of amounts.
You can hear the paper to prove it's real.
We finally figured out why Cuba is so important.
They're going to run a pipeline through it?
No.
Netflix is opening up servers in Cuba.
Oh, yeah.
Gotta have that.
Yeah.
House of Cards.
Enough money as it is.
House of Cards.
Go look and see how it works over here.
House of Cards.
House of Cards.
Yeah.
Lovely.
Vaccines.
There's still a lot going on with that.
We have NBC came out.
This is...
It's so annoying, this vaccine stuff.
So NBC comes out with a survey, and their headline, and it's really crazy when you see, there's a big graphic that shows you who didn't participate, but their headline is, NBC survey finds Congress is unanimous on vaccinations.
But then you see seven declined to answer, 33 declined.
The magic number.
Responded they have no kids.
121 say, yes, we vaccinated.
But 273 have no response.
So, you know, technically, NBC, you should say 38% of those who answered answered they were vaccinated.
No response.
I mean, how can you say Congress is unanimous on vaccinations?
It's not okay.
It's not true.
It's a lie.
And then we have...
Let's see.
Yeah, we have...
This is...
Did we already play...
I don't think we played this Senator...
No, we did play this, Maria of Washington, about the HPV. We played that.
Right.
I was confused that she was the Senator of Washington, but she was.
So as the...
All of the pharmaceutical companies are indemnified from any kind of lawsuit if you're damaged or hurt or die from vaccination.
There is a fund, and it's always in the federal register, that the U.S. government pays out.
Since 1990, $3 billion have been paid out to vaccine-injured Americans.
Holy crap!
That's a lot, right?
That should be a news story.
Somebody should look into this.
What vaccines are injuring them?
Uh...
It's a cornucopia.
I don't think there's one in particular, necessarily.
But there's just so much we're learning about vaccines.
Apparently now an aggressive new HIV strain has been detected in Cuba, which I don't know what that means.
Does that mean that the stuff that we've been developing won't work on them?
As long as you take the pill every day, you then think that you can have unprotected sex?
Which is not true.
Maybe we're going to try to kill the Cubans with AIDS. Huh.
I didn't hear that.
This story eluded me.
Let me see where this was from.
It's from UPI. New HIV strain in some patients in Cuba appears to be much more aggressive and can develop into AIDS within three years of infection.
A researcher said it depends if you take the drugs.
That's how you get AIDS faster.
I'm very, very negative on how AIDS has been handled.
Research has said progression happens so fast that treatment with antiretroviral drugs, that's the one that has been approved now in the United States, may come too late.
I'm smelling a rat here.
And also we have, what was this?
Oh, okay.
It was a very long story, which I tried to clip, and it really didn't work out.
It was just too long.
I do have a link in the show notes.
It was from NPR. That they're now working on developing a synthetic version of the polio vaccine.
And the reason, and of course it's being funded by the Mill and Belinda Gates Foundation, of course.
Apparently, there is polio still floating around because people received a modified version of the polio vaccine and therefore it stays in their body and then eventually can develop into a new version.
And the thinking is, and I really don't know anything about this, if you make a synthetic version, then you can actually turn things on and off.
I think it would be used to kill people at will, but you can really do a lot more with the synthetic version.
Now they're trying to make that happen.
When I thought polio was done with, but it's not.
If there's money to be made, it's not done with.
And the Gates Foundation is all over it.
First I've got to spread it around a little bit.
Alright, I have this thing I have to read.
Tom Bushy writes, also known as Sir Tom the Minuteman Knight.
Ah, okay.
I just listened to the show, 693, where you both stated that the double nickels on the dime donation was created by Sergeant Fred, not knowing who that is, but I wanted to set the record straight.
I created a 5510 donation way back in 2010, and he goes on to explain the exact thing.
Sent the clip, and so Sir Tom the Minuteman Knight...
And I mangled his name then, which means it's probably not pronounced Boucher.
And that's that.
That's the end of that story.
He is the originator.
Okay, we got it finally.
Good.
Yes.
Good.
He also goes on to mention that we drop a lot of ideas, and we do.
Yeah, of course.
We've had a million ideas that we never followed through in, or they flopped.
Yeah.
Which is usually like a nap for humanity.
We still have the good jingles.
Well, that was a good initiative.
We were saving carbon.
We were saving the earth, saving the world.
I thought it was a good initiative.
Apparently nobody cares about saving carbon as much as they talk about it.
Or as much as we do, just in general.
But he mentioned that the Minuteman thing we started, it was like we had the Minuteman nights and we're going to have a, you know, and we put the kibosh on that.
I explained it to him in an email because it was starting to look like we're starting a militia or something.
It's the No Agenda Militia.
We don't need the No Agenda Militia.
We don't need the No Agenda Minuteman.
Because we don't need government coming over saying, what are you guys doing?
Your comment to him was astute, and you said, idiots don't understand the joke.
We really can't.
We really can't have that at all.
And so we don't make those kinds of jokes ever.
And we just deconstruct the news.
They understand that.
And take it or leave it, even though some of them still leave it.
We have way too many people that, you know, you guys are Obama haters or something, and then they quit.
And that's that.
You know, we can't do anything about it.
Yeah, that's it.
Obama haters.
I knew it!
No, we're not.
Obama bashers, you're bashing.
Which Obama?
You know those selfie pictures?
I swear that's the second Obama.
Wow.
It happens not once, but twice in a week.
You will recall John Podesta, a counselor to the president?
Well, it's John.
John Podesta.
He tweeted something very interesting.
He tweets.
He tweets.
He scores.
Then he tweeted...
Here we go.
Finally, my biggest failure of 2014.
He's left public service.
Once again, not securing the hashtag disclosure of the UFO files.
Hashtag the truth is still out there.
Thank you.
What?
Yeah, thank you very much.
And the Washington Post picked this up.
And yeah, so that was his biggest regret, is that he didn't open up the X-Files.
Is he just chiding the audience, or is one of his assistants tweeting for him, or what?
No, the Washington Post checked it.
With him.
What he famously did is he rejected a lot of Freedom of Information Act requests.
And so that's now his biggest regret.
Big talk now that you're out, dude.
Well, that reminds me.
People, if they want to get into this sort of thinking, they should go read the John Corso.
I said John, the Philip Corso book.
And see what you think.
It's called The Day After Roswell.
It's a very interesting read.
You like that book.
Have you ever read that book?
No.
I have to read it now.
Oh, you'd love that book.
What's it called again?
The Day After Roswell.
Available on Amazon.
Yes, and who wrote it?
Corso, Philip Corso, who used to be one of the Army executives in the Army, high up in the Army.
Got it.
Got it.
Nice.
And that'll probably explain everything.
I have only a couple more things, but something I do have to ask you, actually.
Not a lot of people...
Well, I think it's just now getting into the news, but I feel this is important.
Season to date, it's estimated that this has impacted the California citrus industry.
This is about the labor dispute at the ports on the West Coast, which has been going on apparently for a long time.
Not covered.
I have the Dockstrike shutdown little backgrounder here.
You can play it.
Let me do the backgrounder.
Good idea, and then we'll see if my clip is appropriate.
Work has halted at 29 West Coast ports in an escalating labor dispute.
In Southern California, container ships queued up outside the ports of Long Beach and Los Angeles today.
Terminal operators said they locked out dock workers in answer to a union slowdown.
The lockout runs through Monday.
Now what I caught in all of this, and I want to play my report, it seems like, well let's listen to my report and then we'll evaluate.
Season to date, it's estimated that this has impacted the California citrus industry.
This guy is from the citrus industry, obviously.
A reduction of about $500 million in export sales.
Dusty Ferentz is Director of Grower Services at the industry trade group California Citrus Mutual.
He says all this is coming at a really bad time because this is the industry's peak export season ahead of the Chinese New Year.
We're getting reports now that, not including trucking time, these containers are sitting on the docks for 10 days and in some cases longer.
Some industries are now turning to the air to ship freight.
Some of Ferentz's growers are trucking cargo down to the port of Houston.
But going the long way through the Panama Canal is expensive and not always practical, so mostly they're just waiting and hoping things get resolved quick.
The Pacific Maritime Association's president has warned of an all-out, quote, meltdown on West Coast ports if the union doesn't accept what he calls its generous contract offer.
So, is this only for exports or imports as well?
No, everything's stopped.
The ports are stopped.
And it's costing California's economy $2 billion a week.
A week or maybe a day.
I don't know how much it's costing on a week daily.
It's $2 billion involved.
Whatever the case, it's a disaster.
Well, no one will care until the new iPhones don't come in.
That's when people will get all free.
Or the iWatch, Apple Watch, whatever it is.
No one will care.
By the way, I was talking to a Costco sales guy, and he brought this up, and he says, because they have a bunch of new TVs coming into Costco, and they're all jammed up because of this strike.
He says, nobody's even talking about the strike.
I said, yeah, I know.
It's not even in the news.
And he says, why do you think that is?
And I says, because they don't want to give anybody any ideas.
If you haven't been following the news recently, they try to keep this out of the news because some other guys might decide to strike.
And then I gave him a disc.
Nice.
Do you just carry these in your shirt pocket?
They fit in a pocket quite easily.
Joe Biden had a...
This was news and I think it's so stupid.
Because this has clearly been highlighted by people who have never been in New Jersey or Pennsylvania.
You know, I'm sure you heard this Joe Biden thing.
Neil Smith, an old butt buddy.
Are you here, Neil?
Neil, I miss you, man.
And my butt buddy, Neil.
Everyone's like, he said butt buddy.
Yeah, I've heard about that clip.
I haven't heard the clip.
That is what we, in New Jersey and Pennsylvania, we talk about bud buddies, but it's not a homosexual thing.
My God, how childish are all these people?
Woo!
Woo!
He's a bud buddy!
Woo!
Woo!
I'm the first guy to make a gay joke, but no, this is dumb.
You are the first guy to make a gay joke.
And as you were saying earlier, and this will wrap it for me, people in general have no idea how to gauge risk and what is truly dangerous, and you mentioned that.
There's a 1 in 40.
You have more chance of winning Powerball than to be killed by a terrorist attack, even though there's apparently 15,000 of them every single year.
Here is Josh Earnest, spokeshole for the White House, who can tell you that there are things way more dangerous than terrorism.
Want to gander a guess?
Driving a car?
I was asked if the media overstates the level of alarm people should have about terrorism as opposed to longer-term problems of climate change and epidemic disease.
He said absolutely.
So let me just clarify, is the President saying, as he seems to be implying here, that the threat of climate change is greater than the threat of terrorism?
I think, John, the point that the President is making is that there are many more people on an annual basis Who have to confront the impact, the direct impact on their lives of climate change or on the spread of a disease than on terrorism.
So if the answer is yes, the president thinks of climate change as a greater threat to terrorism.
I think the point that the president is making is that when you're talking about the direct daily impact of these kinds of challenges on the daily lives of Americans...
Just say it.
That direct impact is more, that more people are directly affected by those things than by terrorism.
So climate change is more of a clear and present danger in the United States than terrorism.
Well, I think even the Department of Defense has spoken to the significant threat that climate change poses to our national security interests.
Yeah, we're all going to die.
Yeah.
There you go.
Good work.
Good work.
Yeah, good clip.
Good.
Since I see it in your list, I don't know if you want to play anything, but he is coming to Austin, and I saw it in the...
Guzman?
No, no, no, better than that.
I didn't know he was doing a tour, but he is coming to Austin, and he shall be speaking at the Paramount Theater.
Kiraku, Kiraku.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I have a little more about that.
It's going to take up too much time.
I want to bring that into the next show.
Okay.
And we'll talk about him.
He's a so-called whistleblower, which he never was, really.
And he doesn't really fall into the same category.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm thinking of the wrong guy.
I'm sorry.
My mistake.
Sorry.
Who are you thinking of?
I'm thinking of the stupid scientist guy.
The Asian scientist.
What's his name?
Isn't his name Kraku?
What's his name?
Bill Nye?
No.
No, the other douche.
Oh, that guy with the white hair?
Yeah, that guy.
I'm sorry.
No, this is funny.
I know he has an Asian-sounding name, but I do want to talk a little bit about him since he's out of jail.
Oh, I didn't know he just came out.
Yeah, he's out and about and doing interviews mostly with...
The interview I have here is on RT, and I want to talk about it because there's a lot of screwiness about this particular guy because he's supposedly a whistleblower when he's not really...
Well, he gave information to the Fox journalist, correct?
No, this is, I will discuss it in great detail when we have a little more time, which will be on Thursday.
Okay.
And you may want to do a little research and we can go back and forth on this.
Okay.
I did send a couple of show notes, uh, items, which involve him.
You might want to put those in the next, on the Thursday.
Okay, I'll, because I had him in for today, but I'll, I'll, I'll just take them out.
Okay.
Well, well, well, Mr.
DC Vorak.
Hey, and you're on Twit today, right?
I'm on Twit.
I invite everyone to come up and sit in the audience.
Are you going to be there live?
Yeah, I'll be up in the Petaloupe.
Oh, sweet.
It's a beautiful day to take a drive up.
Sweet, sweet, sweet.
Nice.
All right, well, I'm going to go figure out if I can...
I guess it is...
So I hooked up the mobile controller and it worked for the rest of the show.
So you're right, I guess the Behringer just crapped out.
And there you have it in a nutshell.
Sorry about all that.
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