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	Okay, Google.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, February 19, 2015.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 6, 9, or 7.
	This is No Agenda.
	Coughing up a lung here in the Crackpot condo, live from FEMA Region 6 in the capital of the Drone Star State, Austin, Texas.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where in these parts, it's actually Lunar Year 4713, Year of the Sheep.
	I'm John C. Black.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	And a die on us.
	You can't make me laugh today.
	It happened right after the show.
	On Sunday.
	What happened?
	My eyes rolled back in my head.
	Well, was it the show's fault?
	No, no.
	Recall that I did fly back and I got in really late, you know, Saturday morning, essentially, and I said essentially.
	Oh, you did say essentially, and this was flying back from New York back when, then.
	Yes, flying back from New York.
	Oh, yeah, you got sick on the plane.
	Oh, man.
	I was in bed Sunday night, Monday night, Tuesday night.
	Yesterday is the first day I got up and got out.
	And now the remnant is this cough because just everything was...
	It's crazy.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	Sounds like the flu.
	Oh, yeah.
	This is for sure.
	Everybody got this thing because, of course, the flu shot didn't work.
	So there was no herd immunity.
	Right.
	Which is what we bank on.
	Could you explain the herd immunity?
	Because I've heard so many people mention it.
	What exactly is the herd immunity?
	That's when you've heard that there's immunity and there's none.
	Oh.
	No, no.
	Okay.
	What it means is that...
	Seems simple enough.
	That's kind of what it means in some quarters.
	But what it really means is that if enough people get a vaccine, it prevents whatever the bug is from going around enough that it protects the entire herd, whether you've been vaccinated or not.
	No, we didn't get that.
	We did not have herd immunity.
	I spoke to...
	Because I did go to spin class yesterday.
	Wait a minute.
	Stop.
	In the name of...
	What?
	Stop.
	You're sick as a dog.
	You're in bed.
	You're coughing up a lung.
	No, no, no, no.
	That's to infect the girls?
	No.
	Okay.
	Hold on.
	You confused me with infect the girls.
	Now, I got a visual.
	You got to stop that.
	Okay.
	Back up.
	I was no longer infectious, obviously.
	The coughing didn't really start until yesterday.
	Ah, so you weren't coughing and spinning.
	No, I was not coughing and spinning.
	And I wasn't doing too great in the spin.
	But at least, you know, you sweat, so you get stuff out, and that helps a little bit.
	But the cough is now just, ugh.
	Go take a good steam.
	Yeah, I've got the Mucinex and whatever that crap, you know, decongested stuff.
	You want codeine.
	Oh, yes, I do.
	Yes.
	Are you dealing?
	No.
	I wish.
	Before we go any further, I think today is the day...
	Boy, that was a lyric right there.
	We need to remind everybody what is going on, certainly in the United States of Gitmo Nation, because it affects everybody, and we probably can't remind you too often, because it is so apparent now, as I'm sure...
	I haven't looked at your clip list, but I'm sure we both will touch on similar issues.
	In 2013...
	As a part of the National Defense Authorization Act, which was signed into law, there was a little amendment which repealed the Smith-Munt Act.
	And for those of you who are new to the program, you have to understand, the Smith-Munt Act was set up specifically to forbid the government of the United States to use propaganda on its citizens.
	So that has now been open and free and available to the government as a tool for the better part of a year and a half.
	Yeah, you think they were paying attention to the Smith-Munt Act three years ago?
	I don't think so.
	But now it seems like...
	Wow, okay.
	Now nobody can bust them, is what you're saying.
	But nobody was going to bust them anyway.
	This is the problem.
	This is why they repealed the act.
	It's because the public doesn't give a crap.
	Well, that's true.
	But now I think that...
	Well, it seems like it's become so easy for them now that they just...
	Look, half of the White House spokeshole staff is on the news channels all the time.
	And the White House staff is one group, the other half is the CIA. The State Department, everybody.
	Yeah, no, there's nobody.
	In fact, unless you turn to Al Jazeera or RT. Yeah, there you go.
	Sorry, I have to laugh.
	There you go, yeah.
	Unless you turn to those stations, even NewsHour, it's all government officials or ex-government officials or stooges for the government or phonies for the government.
	Yeah.
	You don't hear any professors.
	You don't get to hear Cohen.
	He only shows up on Democracy Now once in a while.
	Even Democracy Now has a bunch of government stooges on it.
	Why do we want to hear the government stooges?
	We don't have a choice.
	This is what you get.
	But a very, very sad day, John.
	Very, very sad day in stooge land.
	Yes, what happened?
	I need to stop.
	I need to be very careful what I wish for.
	We had Ashton Carter coming in as the new guy.
	If you look at him and can't laugh, you're strong.
	You've got more willpower than I do.
	By the way, his buddies call him Ash.
	Ash.
	Yeah, it's true.
	Ash.
	So the first thing he does...
	Replaces our friend.
	Harf?
	No.
	Pisaki?
	No, he's not state.
	He's the defense.
	Oh, that guy?
	The guy with the...
	Kirby.
	Rear Admiral Kirby.
	Oh, right.
	But Kirby got kicked out.
	And I'm always harping on the guy.
	Like, what a douchebag.
	And now I'm sad.
	And when you listen to this, where he's kind of announcing that he's...
	It's so bad that he doesn't even know when he's being replaced or who's going to replace him.
	He's almost crying at the podium.
	You've got to listen to this.
	I feel really sad now that I wished him gone.
	I'm sure Carter hasn't made a decision about who will be the next press secretary, so I wouldn't want to get ahead of any decisions that he hasn't made yet.
	No.
	I think he comes to the job wanting to sort of revisit the role of spokesman here.
	And one of the questions that I think he wants to rhetorically ask and consider is not just who the individual is, but what that individual represents and whether it's appropriate or not to have a uniform up here.
	I found that to be interesting.
	It sounds like they don't want a uniform being up there anymore as part of the DOD spokeshole team.
	I don't think he was meant to say that, but I think that's what he's thinking.
	That's what I'm thinking too.
	Those are fair questions for him to ask as he comes into the job.
	I've agreed to stay on for a couple of weeks to help him with this transition and do his new job.
	Again, he'll make those decisions about who he wants at the podium in his own time.
	You can tell that he has not actually even spoken to him.
	Someone just said, you're out.
	I'm not aware that any decisions have been made specifically with respect to who my replacement might be.
	This is awkward.
	Wait, it gets better.
	I don't know.
	It could be.
	I don't know.
	It's going to just depend on...
	So the question was, is this your last press briefing?
	Which, you know, you'd think the guy would have an answer for.
	No.
	I don't know.
	It could be.
	I don't know.
	It's going to just depend on the weekly scheduling.
	No, I would tell you eventually.
	I would tell you eventually.
	I got schwacked!
	I don't know.
	We'll just have to see how the schedule plays out.
	We try to do two a week and then we'll just see.
	I defer to the first question, but we all echo Lita.
	We're very appreciative of your professionalism.
	Love your work, man.
	Love your work.
	That's Barbara Starr.
	But wait, there's more!
	There's more!
	And you were right!
	You were right, John C. Dvorak.
	Obama, President Obama, has picked none other than State Department spokeshole Jen Psaki to head White House Communications.
	So she moves over to the White House, Marie gets a new profile, and here it is, John!
	A White House official said Psaki informed Obama and White House Chief of Staff Dennis McDonough that she is expecting a baby in July!
	Aha!
	You were right, my friend!
	Thank you very much for my...
	You were right.
	...for complimenting my observational prowess.
	Yes, your prowess is intact!
	Very good.
	Very, very good, I say.
	Yeah, you're getting the big top, he's getting big, he's eating too many pickles.
	The top was the thing we noticed, because that's pretty much all we see.
	Yes.
	No soul having ginger hair and the top.
	Now, she's going to bump...
	What's his name?
	Josh?
	No, it's...
	No, she's not going to be the spokeshole.
	She's going to be head of communications, which I think is...
	She's going to be Josh's boss?
	Yes, spokeshole's boss, exactly.
	She will be replacing...
	Oh, she's got to be the worst boss in the world.
	Now she's pregnant?
	Oh my God.
	Hey, that's misogynistic.
	Josh has just quit.
	You misogynistic prick, Dvorak.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Every woman out there knows I'm right, too.
	She replaces veteran Democratic media strategist Jennifer Palmieri.
	Oh, she's a known name.
	Palmieri.
	We all know that from somewhere.
	She's leaving the White House to join...
	Oh, of course.
	She's leaving the White House to join Clinton's likely presidential campaign.
	Oh, yeah.
	Get on that bandwagon while you can.
	Before it goes over the cliff.
	Now, my guess about the Kirby thing?
	Mm-hmm.
	They're going to bring in a woman.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	Why?
	I think it's a trend.
	They want women up there because they can, I think it's a political thing.
	They get the women up there, it's a little, the way the questioning goes is going to be a little different because people always go, oh, it's a woman, you're going to, oh, you can't insult her, you know, the only one guy can do that, and he's got arf.
	Hmm.
	Yeah, just a guess.
	So Harf...
	So Harf takes over.
	Harf takes over.
	Harf full-time.
	But Harf has been on a profile-raising exercise.
	It was hard for anyone here in the United States of Gitmo Nation to...
	To miss, she went on Hardball on MSNBC, which of course is something that everybody missed because no one watches MSNBC, but this whole thing went viral.
	It's good practice.
	Very good practice, and I felt that the original appearance, which of course now, no one saw the original appearance, pretty much.
	Absolved is talking about, and she did a great job.
	What she did is, and you'll hear it in this clip, She said a lot of things, but at a certain point she says, you know, we need to have jobs.
	Oh yeah, this one's got a lot of, yeah.
	But think about it.
	That's perfect.
	This is exactly what you want.
	Get her out more!
	Because now, if you scan the tweeters and the Facebooks, everyone's making jokes about, oh, we should get them jobs, we should get them shovel-ready jobs.
	So it's distracted from everything.
	It's beautiful.
	Yeah, lightning rod.
	Yes, in her idiocy, she's become a genius.
	Okay.
	Genius.
	But we need to listen to this.
	It's a little on the long side, but we can stop and discuss it a couple points or dump out.
	But the things she's saying represent the thinking, certainly, of the State Department.
	She represents the State Department when she goes on these shows.
	By the way, her hair looks dynamite, I have to say.
	The color, the wave, whoever's doing her hair is doing a killer job.
	Remember, we are television producers.
	This is why we talk about this stuff.
	But the ease at which she says certain things is just mind-boggling and flummoxed me.
	Marie Harf is with the American State Department.
	Marie, this is getting close.
	And I think the Italians, you know, who had some land...
	And this, of course, is in...
	The way he announces her, she's with the American State Department.
	Which is incorrect.
	It's the United States State Department.
	Yeah.
	Or State Department, or Department of State.
	State Department, Department of State.
	You could say a lot of different things, but the American State Department.
	I know, I know.
	This is like, you know...
	And this is in reference to the Libya-ISIS move, which we'll also talk about, of course, needs deconstruction.
	Northern Africa over the years before are beginning to feel them at their curbside now.
	And what do we do as Americans when we look at...
	He actually says Americans, doesn't he?
	He says Americans.
	What do we do as Americans?
	What do we do here as Americans?
	Are beginning to feel them at their curbside now.
	And what do we do as Americans when we look at 21 Christians beheaded for the purposes Of humiliating us, the Christian world, the Western world.
	It's aimed at us, those pictures.
	Well, I think it just underscores for people that this isn't just a fight in Iraq and in Syria.
	And that it's not just a fight about dropping bombs on terrorists.
	It's really how we stop the causes that lead to extremism in a place like Libya.
	Before we even go on, she already has my attention by saying, it's not just about dropping bombs on terrorists.
	That's so cavalier!
	She's from the State Department.
	Bombs dropping on people actually has a consequence.
	You get death.
	I find it very easy the way she's talking about this stuff.
	There's no governance and there's no opportunity for young people.
	It lets groups like ISIL grow there and flourish there, which is what you saw with this awful situation with these Egyptians that you just mentioned.
	But this is a longer fight.
	It's fighting them on social media.
	Like you just said, these videos they produce are very technical.
	They're using social media to get converts.
	And do you notice how she accentuates using social media?
	This is a big, big push, and we'll see that later on in the President's violent extremist forum get-together shindig.
	Really pressing the social media...
	...to their cause and to spread their hatred all over the world.
	This week we're going to have over 60 countries here in Washington to talk about...
	We combat this violent extremism together in the long term, not just in this short term fight.
	Well, how do we win?
	How do we stop this?
	I don't see it.
	I see the militias from the Shia militias coming out of Baghdad who are all Shia.
	The Sunnis hate them.
	The Sunnis are loyal to ISIS. This is a typical Obama bot who's, you know, the Shias and the Sunnis.
	I'm so incredibly smart about how this all works in the Middle East.
	We're all Shia.
	The Sunnis hate them.
	The Sunnis are loyal to ISIS rather than going in with the Shia.
	You've got the Kurds, the Jordanian Air Force, and now the Egyptian Air Force.
	But I don't see any...
	If I were ISIS, I wouldn't be afraid right now.
	I figured there's no existential threat to these people.
	They can keep finding places where they can hold executions and putting the camera work together, getting their props ready, and killing people for show.
	And nothing we do right now seems to be directed at stopping this.
	Well, at least he got the propaganda part right about putting on the big show.
	He's got that right.
	Everyone's realizing it now.
	Well, I think there's a few stages here.
	Right now what we're doing is trying to take their leaders and their fighters off the battlefield in Iraq and in Syria.
	That's really where they flirt.
	Are we killing enough of them?
	We're killing a lot of them.
	Woo!
	Fuck yeah, baby!
	And we're going to keep killing more of them.
	Shit!
	So are the Egyptians, so are the Jordanians.
	They're in this fight with us.
	We are killing them!
	We need to kill them.
	I love this girl.
	She's just all about killing.
	Killing, killing, killing.
	Do you find this appropriate?
	No, of course not.
	It's just...
	It's disgusting, actually.
	It truly is.
	It really is.
	But we cannot win this war by killing them.
	Oh!
	Well, there you go.
	Then what's the point of killing them?
	Hold on a second.
	This makes no sense.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	No, I know.
	Of course it makes no sense.
	Hold on.
	Here's another piece.
	Oh, and this one time, at band camp, I stuck a flute in my pussy.
	I'm telling you, that's how you kill me.
	I mean, they're in this fight with us.
	It is her, isn't it?
	It's just so close.
	But we cannot win this war by killing them.
	We cannot kill our way out of this war.
	Now she's an expert on winning wars.
	Yeah, she's an expert.
	Hey, you know, we can't win by killing people.
	No, that's not how you win a war.
	You don't just kill people.
	By the way, I got a lot of feedback from our military producers, military industrial complex producers, And, of course, you cannot win a war anywhere just by dropping bombs on people.
	That's true.
	Killing is something different.
	She's saying killing.
	She's not just saying air attacks.
	Because, yeah, you can't secure anything without man and woman power on the ground.
	As they say, boots on the ground.
	We need in the longer term, medium and longer term, to go after the root causes that leads people to join these groups, whether it's lack of opportunity for jobs.
	We're not going to be able to stop that in our lifetime or 50 lifetimes.
	There's always going to be poor people.
	There's always going to be poor Muslims.
	Okay, so you get the idea of what I found so disgusting, but what is this really about?
	Why is she really on this show?
	Why is she doing the rounds?
	Okay, you tell me.
	They're poor Muslims, the trumpet's blowing.
	Stand by, it's so simple.
	We can't stop that, can we?
	We can work with countries around the world to help improve their governance.
	We can help them build their economy so they can have job opportunities for these people.
	You're right, there is no easy solution in the long term to preventing and combating violent extremism.
	But if we can help countries work at the root causes of this, what makes these 17-year-old kids pick up an AK-47 instead of try to start a business?
	I love that.
	I have a choice.
	She looked at her own footage from these countries.
	I wanted to start a business.
	Hello, I wanted to start business.
	Oh, now he's gone.
	Please, you stupid morons.
	Maybe we can try to chip away at this problem while at the same time going after this threat, taking on ISIL in Iraq, in Syria, and helping our partners around the world.
	I mean, we've seen these horrific pictures from Europe.
	It sounds like we're going to get rid of juvenile delinquency in America over time by erasing poverty, improving education.
	Sure, over time.
	Mm-hmm.
	But the American people, I think, are getting...
	No, that's never actually worked.
	No.
	I think it's gotten worse.
	We are seeing these pictures.
	What are you supposed to say?
	I'm going to think about something else?
	What are the American people supposed to do about this right now?
	Okay, so he's actually part of the script.
	He's setting her up.
	What are the American people supposed to do right now?
	What can we do?
	Right now.
	Right now.
	Well, you know what you can do right now.
	What are they supposed to do about this?
	Right now.
	They're watching right now.
	Oh my God.
	It's like it's written for him.
	What are they supposed to do to stop these indecent killing?
	Yes, we get it.
	You've set it up already.
	...people.
	This burning alive of that good pilot.
	Whatever they did to the American woman over there.
	Good pilot.
	Whatever they did.
	Whatever they're doing to all these people.
	Beheading them.
	Who cares?
	What are we doing to stop this?
	It sounds like we can't stop it.
	Well, I think they should know that the United States military is taking direct action in Iraq and in Syria.
	We're taking their leaders out.
	We're taking out their financing.
	We're taking out their training camps.
	This is a long fight, Chris, but I also think not to take it to politics for a second.
	Not to take it to politics?
	It's all politics.
	Hell yeah.
	We're taking out their financing.
	We're taking out their training camps.
	This is a long fight, Chris, but I also think, not to take it to politics for a second, they should tell their elected leaders to support the AUMF that we sent to Congress to speak to the world.
	This is all about drumming up support for the authorized use of military force so the president can kill anybody, anywhere, anytime, anyhow.
	That is what this is about.
	And now we're on a roll.
	Now she's got everybody talking.
	The social media, which we are, of course, actually very good at exploiting because we are all of this.
	And we allow all of these great Twitter accounts to exist.
	But now we have a little virality going on with the jobs thing, so we can bring everybody on.
	Here's Hayden, former Harf's boss at one point in CIA, where she comes from.
	And he's on the Morning Joe show, and he's just using the Harf's oafishness to propagate more of what everybody wants.
	Notice you started your show today quoting Marie Harf, who used to work for me in the public affairs shop at CIA. I love the shop.
	You know what they call CIA, don't you?
	Have I told you this?
	The pickle factory?
	Yeah, the pickle factory.
	Yeah.
	I think I did tell you that.
	I mean, in the public affairs shop at CIA. And I think Marie would want to take a mulligan on how she said what she said two days ago.
	But I think the thought is this.
	Unless you change the conditions on the ground, you get to kill people forever.
	Yeah, well, why do I do anything then?
	Just kill people forever.
	What fun!
	And this, of course, is so...
	It's disgustingly twisted where for weeks, maybe months, we heard no American boots on the ground, no American boots on the ground.
	Now we are having a public indoctrination campaign about boots on the ground under the AUMF. And no one is saying, hey, wait a minute.
	No, no, it's...
	So in addition to applying military force here, Joe, we've got to work with our friends in the area to very boldly take on some of the issues that create this phenomenon.
	So you have to worry about the underlying aspects of it all.
	When you are talking about, and let's just be really blunt here, when you are talking about the type of people that would be attracted to a movement because they see a Jordanian pilot set on fire and burned alive, or 21 Christians beheaded while they're screaming for mercy.
	Man, that video stuff is working out great.
	I'm telling you, that multiple seat license for Final Cut Pro is really paying off.
	That's all everyone's talking about.
	On beaches in Libya, you are dealing with people that are not going to be persuaded by a jobs program, or a nice word, and I've talked to people in the agency under George Bush and under Barack Obama that says all you can do is kill them.
	Kill them!
	We need to kill them!
	We need to kill them!
	This is fantastic!
	We need to kill them!
	We need to kill them!
	Yes!
	For all those who are already committed to come after us, I agree with you, Joe.
	The euphemism we used was take them off the battlefield, and that's kill or capture.
	Kill or capture.
	What we really need to concentrate on, and by the way, we've been actually pretty good at that task, killing and capturing, over the last 13 years.
	Oh, really?
	Where we have been less good is the production rate of those who are going to want to come and try to kill us one, three, or five years from now.
	And unfortunately, our levers in that fight aren't very powerful.
	Hold on, stop.
	Why is it one, three, or five, and not one, two, three?
	I don't know.
	Four, five, six, seven, eight years from now, or whenever.
	This observation is valid.
	I don't know.
	One, three, or five.
	I believe that's code.
	Let's back it up again, see if we can figure this out.
	Five years from...
	I don't know why.
	Hmm.
	Where we have been less good is the production rate of those who are going to want to come and try to...
	What does he even mean, my production rate?
	He says, what have we been less good at is the production rate of those...
	What, are we producing these people?
	Is that what he's implying, or is that what he's actually saying?
	Is it the truth of the matter?
	Maybe it's a two-year program.
	So, you know, you create new people every two years?
	Produce new terrorists?
	I don't know.
	The production rate.
	Yeah, he's literally talking about it.
	Yeah, but back in, I am.
	You're getting sensitive.
	...capturing over the last 13 years.
	Where we have been less good is the production rate of those who are going to want to come and try to kill us one, three, or five years from now.
	And unfortunately...
	Wow.
	It sounds like he's saying we have not been good at producing terrorists.
	We've not been good at the one, three, and five-year intervals.
	We're good on the odd years.
	We're good on the even years.
	The odd years were way off.
	It's the leap years.
	We're only producing enough to kill us in two years, but not three or five.
	No, we have to step it up, people.
	Our levers in that fight aren't very powerful.
	Why?
	We've got to work through some friends.
	This is about Islam, Joe.
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah, stop.
	Back it up again.
	What does this mean by our levers?
	For all of those who are...
	I'm going to play the whole thing.
	Hold on, let me get back here.
	I don't know, man.
	This guy speaks in riddles.
	He's just clinically insane and he just throws miscellaneous words.
	Possible, possible.
	But what we really need to concentrate on, and by the way, we've been actually pretty good at that task, killing and capturing.
	By the way, don't you feel good about yourself now?
	We're good at killing and capturing.
	The last 13 years.
	Where we have been less good is the production rate of those who are going to want to come and try to kill us one, three, or five years from now.
	And unfortunately, our levers in that fight aren't very powerful.
	Why?
	Levers?
	Our levers in that fight are not very powerful.
	Is that what he said?
	Yes, that's what he said.
	What does that even mean?
	I don't know.
	Or mechanics, maybe?
	He really should be called out.
	If he was on a talk show and you'd have, if it was me interviewing him, I'd constantly stop and ask him what he means by these words.
	Well, I recall the monk debates where we had everyone's hero, Greenwald on the monk debate, and he was spouting off just as much bull crap and Greenwald didn't call him out.
	No, people don't do that.
	They're all part of the same...
	It's because they're not listening, I think, is part of it.
	That's true.
	And there's the script, and they don't care.
	That's true.
	That's true.
	So now we'll move on to the last bit here.
	So now Harf doubles down.
	And...
	She's still on...
	Now where is she?
	I think she's on...
	Morning Joe.
	So she...
	This is...
	It's all set up.
	So they have Hayden on, then she comes on.
	And, again, the hair is dynamite.
	Well...
	I'm not sure I would take a mulligan on this one, but I think he went on to say something I would agree with, that, look, in the short term, and I said this on Hardball the other night, we are killing them, and we will continue killing ISIS terrorists that pose a threat to us.
	Marie Harf, have you ever seen someone actually killed?
	Have you ever seen a dead person?
	Have you ever really been in any kind of danger?
	You bitch.
	I can't have these people representing anything of my representation of government the way she talks.
	This is a sackable offense.
	I would think so, too.
	I agree.
	This is uncalled for.
	John McCain, okay.
	She doesn't have blood dribbling down from her mouth.
	From the corner of her mouth.
	We'll kill them.
	We'll kill them.
	Yeah, she's like that guy that was in there with Star Wars, that evil emperor that was all gruesome looking.
	But by the way, if someone showed up on RT talking like this on behalf of the Russians...
	People would be losing their shit.
	Oh yeah.
	This is not okay.
	Please, this is not okay.
	But I think he went on to say something I would agree with.
	That, look, in the short term, and I said this on Hardball the other night.
	I said this on Hardball because I'm a killer!
	We are killing them, and we will continue killing ISIS terrorists that pose a threat to us.
	I'm so proud right now.
	I've never been more proud to be an American.
	I'm thinking about how we're killing them.
	It's so great.
	And not just by a bullet in the head.
	No, no.
	We actually drone them where body parts fly all over the place.
	Ripped to shreds.
	There's still life in them.
	And then someone comes along to save and we fucking drone him again.
	I'm proud.
	Very good at that.
	I mean, General Hayden.
	I'm proud of how good we are at it.
	And can speak to that better than anyone.
	But in the longer term, and this isn't specific to ISIL. Better than anyone, Hayden?
	That's right.
	But in the longer term, and this isn't specific to ISIL, military commanders, politicians of both parties, counterterrorism experts all agree that if you're going to prevent terrorist groups from spreading to other places and getting more recruits, you have to look at the root causes that can lead people to extremism.
	You have to do all of it.
	You have to take them on militarily.
	But you have to look at things like governance, like opportunity, so these groups aren't able to get more people to their cause.
	Absolutely.
	There's a need for a rescue mission.
	When the world is threatened, The world needs help.
	It calls on America.
	And that's the story.
	We need to kill them.
	Ah, I feel so good now.
	I apologize to the population of the entire Earth.
	Planet Earth, we apologize.
	Planet Earth, we really are very, very sorry.
	These bloodthirsty bastards that are running the place.
	Now, these bloodthirsty bastards...
	I mean, so here's where Smith-Munt comes into effect.
	Because this is, there's no evidence, this is such a bold-faced lie, and it can only come from the people who clearly are now, I'm just going to say it, are being paid to broadcast this propaganda.
	This is CarolCNN, Facebook.com slash CarolCNN.
	As ISIS continues to gain territory across the Middle East, the recruitment of young women to its ranks has become increasingly important to the group.
	And among the most highly sought-after targets, Western women.
	But how do you relate your message of jihad in a way Westerners understand?
	How can Westerners understand?
	...into the language of social media, and that seems to be working just fine for ISIS. ISIS is talking online about jars of Nutella, pictures of kittens, and emojis.
	These three images are, in part, helping ISIS recruiters lure Westerners into their fight because they want people to believe their life on the battlefield isn't so different than yours.
	They actually eat Nutella, and I guess they have pet kittens.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	A couple things.
	What the fuck is where I need to start first?
	Sorry.
	But who actually...
	Are there women who actually...
	You can lure them in with Nutella and pictures of kittens?
	Because I need to try this.
	First of all.
	And second...
	Put it in the book, John.
	Next.
	ISIS recruits via Tinder and Match.com.
	Swear to God, it's coming.
	Well, first of all, we have to realize that these guys are the extreme Islamic terrorists or whatever, however you want to call them.
	Their attitudes towards women, at least by the script, the litany, what we're told and what we're led to believe is very negative.
	Women should be wearing these bales.
	They should be at home.
	They shouldn't go to school.
	All these major...
	Can you hold on one second?
	So how now are they going to be soldiers?
	Alexa, add Nutella to shopping list.
	Okay, sorry.
	Very funny.
	I thought you'd like that.
	She actually did it, but you can't hear it in the background.
	I don't care.
	Yeah, it makes no sense.
	This is propaganda.
	This is 100% pure propaganda.
	That's what it is.
	It's just nuts.
	I'm going to put also Facebook on this prediction of yours.
	What's the Facebook part?
	You made a prediction that they're going to start using social media.
	No, I know.
	I said Tinder.
	Tinder.
	And what's the grinder?
	Christian Mingle.
	Christian Mingle And he...
	Well, you know, he doesn't tell his old stories anymore.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, no.
	It's gotten much better.
	Yeah, Wes Clark showed up on CNN, of course.
	This is where they all show up.
	This is the propaganda arm of the United States, or the State Department.
	I mean, the American State Department.
	The American State Department.
	And he tells us where ISIS comes from.
	Oh, he's the background man in the script.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know how a story is told sometimes?
	There's too much backstory, so they bring some guy on.
	It's typically when the movie is shit.
	Voice over.
	Yeah.
	This is when they couldn't figure out how to make the movie work.
	Yeah, because the script is all crap, and so they had the little guy come on and he explains it.
	Exactly.
	But we need the authorization.
	Right off the bat, we need the authorization.
	Okay, so he jumps right to the chase.
	So he cuts to the chase and goes right into it.
	And then he gives the background.
	You're absolutely right.
	So we need the authorization, and then he's going to tell us why.
	But we need the authorization to follow the leads, put the troops in, and play this.
	Look, ISIS got started.
	Wow, I didn't even catch that.
	And play this.
	Of course.
	Didn't even catch that the first time.
	Play this.
	Play this.
	Yeah, it's a little show that we're putting on.
	We need the authorization to follow the leads, put the troops in, and play this.
	Look, ISIS got started through funding from our friends and allies.
	ISIS got started through funding from our friends and allies.
	Oh, really?
	Huh.
	Okay.
	He has my attention.
	He has my attention.
	People will tell you in the region, if you want somebody who will fight to the death against Hezbollah, you don't put out a recruiting poster and say, you know, sign up for us, we're going to make a better world.
	You go after zealots, and you go after these religious fundamentalists.
	That's who fights Hezbollah.
	General, I'm hearing...
	Interesting.
	You hear what he's saying.
	That's who fights Hezbollah.
	He's saying that this was set up...
	I guess he's blaming Israel and saying that Mossad set this up because you want those guys, the crazies, to go fight Hezbollah.
	Am I misunderstanding what he's saying?
	Well, I've never heard this before, and I think that your interpretation is valid.
	Zealots.
	And you go after these religious fundamentalists.
	That's who fights Hezbollah.
	General, I'm hearing you on...
	It's like a Frankenstein.
	I'm hearing you on keeping Syria fuzzy, but, I mean, they've been very clear in wanting to destroy and dismantle ISIS, so that's not fuzzy to me at all.
	By the way, when did this dismantle come into play?
	No, Brooke.
	It's degrade and destroy.
	Why can't people get it right?
	Dismantle?
	You can't pay him enough on cable.
	It's like a jalopy or something?
	She doesn't cost out properly.
	But, I mean, they've been very clear in wanting to destroy and dismantle ISIS, so that's not fuzzy to me.
	She's actually, she's gone beyond the destroy to dismantlings.
	At all, the question would be, if they wipe out ISIS in Syria, which is the goal, then what?
	Ah, now listen.
	And we wipe out...
	What have I always said that this is about?
	What have I said that ISIS is about?
	About killing Assad.
	You said a number of things, but I think one of the things you always target is Assad.
	Yeah, to have someone else of our friends, this would be Jordania or...
	Yeah, just to screw with the Russians.
	Because they've got Snowden.
	Oh man, you're ahead of the game.
	The question would be, if they wipe out ISIS in Syria, which is the goal, then what with Bashar Assad?
	There has to be a plan for that phase.
	Well, some things you can't exactly plan.
	Listen to what he's saying.
	That clearly because you're dealing in the realm of politics.
	I'm going to back it up a second.
	He is saying, well...
	You know, Assad might be killed.
	You can't plan what's going to happen with these crazies, you know?
	He's actually laying out the truth as it's about to unfold.
	Which is the goal, then what, with Bashar Assad?
	There has to be a plan for that phase.
	Well, some things you can't exactly plan that clearly because you're dealing in the realm of politics.
	So part of it is, can you get the Russians to withdraw their support from Bashar Assad?
	How would you do that?
	Well, you're dealing with the Russians in Ukraine right now, and they're not being helpful.
	In fact, from Putin's perspective, he probably sees it as the opposite play.
	He says that because the Americans need us to help on Iran, because they don't have a ground force in Syria, they're actually relying on us.
	Therefore, we can push Ukraine further, and the Americans won't stop us because they're afraid they'll lose our cooperation elsewhere in the world.
	Thank you very much.
	My entire theory has been validated.
	It's what I've always said.
	Ukraine and ISIS related.
	Not separate.
	Goodbye, Assad.
	You better take your flimsy suit.
	He's not looking good anymore.
	Well, he has his opportunity to leave at any time.
	And to go to Russia.
	To go to Russia.
	They invited him there and his pretty wife.
	And they'd be the toast of the town in Moscow.
	Yes, the toast of the town.
	Oh, man.
	Man, man, man.
	Okay.
	Now I think we need to Let's briefly look at the new video that came out.
	Have you seen it?
	You probably didn't see it, right?
	No, I have not seen it.
	It's fairly well done.
	Actually, I have a little rundown.
	Let me see.
	I took a couple notes.
	So first of all, so you see a whole bunch of guys.
	Well, in fact, I got a phrase frame for you that I want you to take a look at.
	As I was watching this video, and they've got jib shots, and it's on the beach, so it's well done.
	Jibs are expensive, and how do you roll them on the beach?
	No, multiple cameras.
	It's pretty darn good.
	Good effects, I would say.
	The actual beheading, of course, you see stuff, but Eli Roth could have made this.
	I'm still not impressed.
	It doesn't really prove anything.
	Nothing identifies the beach they're on as Libya.
	It could be Malibu, for all I know.
	You see things like all the prisoners are standing in line.
	So you've got all the guys in orange jumpsuits, which, by the way, brand new, creases still in them, put over existing clothing.
	I don't know why.
	Why would you, if you have prisoners, why do you, I mean, if you're in prison, in America, you get an orange jumpsuit, says the inmate.
	Do you get to put that over your existing clothes?
	No.
	It is your clothes.
	Okay, so I don't know why that is, but brand new, and all of the jihadis standing behind them dressed identically in black clad, everything new, looking really fierce.
	All the knives in the left hand, once again, completely not what any Muslim would do.
	And at the end, you see this bloody sea, which is, you know, it's colorized.
	It's obviously well done.
	However...
	Look at this still shot, if you can go to itm.im slash tall, and tell me that ISIS either works for the NBA, or it is the NBA, or the Harlem Globetrotters.
	This domain has been blacklisted.
	The short ULA has been deleted from our recent record.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Okay, go to tall.noagendanotes.com.
	That's interesting.
	You got it?
	I'm typing.
	I have a microphone in front of me, so it's kind of hard to type.
	I got a screenshot from latest beheading video, Libya.
	Look at how tall these dudes are.
	Holy crap!
	Come on, man.
	And that's a Reuters photo, so come on.
	Yeah, these guys are all like 6'5".
	Are ISIS fighters all 6'5"?
	The Coptics are all midgets.
	Or maybe that's doctored.
	I don't know what that is.
	I don't think you'd be doctored.
	Why would you bother doctors?
	It's easier just to walk a bunch of guys up and down the beach.
	Now, the uniforms, if you're correct, are really new.
	On both sides.
	You'd think a guy would be like, where's this beach?
	What's the point of that?
	Well, the point is, it's Libya, and the point is, we're coming to Europe, and we're going to enter Europe via Italy.
	That's the point.
	If you're going to do propaganda, you would make it look as though you, the beheadee, A little mouse and there's huge ISIS supermen are lording it over and they look at it and the difference in size, even though you notice it, I think most people would not have noticed this, but it is subtle.
	It's not so subtle in this case.
	It's a propaganda trick.
	Yes, it's a propaganda trick.
	You're superior.
	You're like the master race.
	This one guy is at least a foot and a half taller than the other guy.
	So, why Libya?
	And I want to remind everybody that Libya, you didn't really hear much about Libya.
	Oh yeah, you did.
	You saw Clinton and Tony Blair.
	Our show, we kept up with Libya and started discussing, and this is a while ago, the airport bombings and the fact that there's no government there anymore and all the rest of it.
	Well, I'm going back even further.
	When the United Nations came up with this resolution, because, of course, we had to get rid of Gaddafi, but you'll recall...
	There was really nothing going on.
	Everything was kind of...
	Every world leader was on photos with Gaddafi walking in the tent, walking out the tent.
	Everyone's like, hey, how you doing?
	Everything's great.
	And now we bombed them.
	We had that with the United Nations.
	We led that.
	We had all the no-fly zone.
	We killed him.
	We got rid of everybody.
	And now we've got ISIS in Libya.
	Good job, everybody.
	Yay, UN! Fantastic.
	There's this group called the Quilliam Group.
	Q-U-I-L-L-I-A-M. And they are a think tank, and they released a report.
	Actually, interesting, these guys.
	2007, three former members of the Islamist group Hiz-Ub-Ut-Tahir, And see, one of the co-director and co-founder, Ed Hussein, he's now at Council on Foreign Relations.
	You know, so it's obvious.
	Senior advisor, Tony Blair.
	I mean, so it's...
	Actually, he used to work for HSBC. I mean, these are shills.
	But they released a report, which I have here.
	It's marked up in the show notes for you.
	Libya, the strategic gateway for the Islamic State.
	And it's a translation and analysis of the Islamic State's recruitment propaganda for Libya.
	I think this is very key for us to understand because how all of a sudden do these guys jump from Egypt up into Libya and now they're going and in the video they're threatening that they will once again fly the ISIS flag in Rome over the, I guess, the Vatican.
	You guys are great.
	So let's just read a couple of things that I've highlighted here.
	Quilliam is the world's first counter-extremist think tank set up to address the unique challenges of citizenship, identity, and belonging in a globalized world.
	That's a little background on who these guys think they are.
	In light of the recent release and circulation of a video depicting the execution of 21 Egyptian Coptic Christians on a beach in Libya by militants claiming to be part of the Islamic State, Interesting how this 15-page report gets banged out and released so quickly after this video.
	The timing is always interesting to me.
	In January, a prominent supporter of Islamic State who claimed to be in Libya uploaded a short essay titled Libya, the Strategic Gateway for the Islamic State.
	In it, the author lays down the reasons why Islamic State's jihad must expand to the country.
	Importantly, the document, which has remained until now untranslated in its Arabic language form, is not something for a Western audience.
	Its content is not an attempt to intimidate.
	Rather, it's intended for a regional jihadist audience.
	So what they've done is they've translated this so that we can understand it.
	And I think, since it's all bullshit, I think we should at least understand what they're trying to communicate to us.
	In this document, the author laments the fact that many supporters of IS have misunderstood and underestimated the critical significance of Libya as a new province of the caliphate.
	Isn't that great that we got Gaddafi out and made that province all clear?
	It lists the specific conditions which render this the case.
	You know, of course, I think people should all look at a map and try to figure out how these guys jumped.
	From Iraq, over Saudi Arabia, over Jordan, over...
	They can fly!
	Over Israel, which is right there, over Egypt, over Sudan, wherever they're coming from, to get to Libya in the first place.
	Did they take a...
	There was no trains, because you've got to cross the Suez Canal, too.
	You've got to cross that whole area where the...
	There is some mention of how that happened.
	Well, they could swim.
	Well, what is said in the document is these were affiliates who then converted and swore allegiance to.
	Oh, when they had the same uniforms and the same jumpsuits for their prisoners and everything.
	Amazon Prime ships to Libya, I think.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, that must be it, because that's the only thing I can think of.
	I don't think it's a problem to send the jumpsuits to Libya.
	Speaking of Libya, in this document, Libya has a long coast and looks upon the southern Crusader states.
	Interesting how now that...
	Oh, let's throw that in.
	The Crusader word, which is now the first time we really heard that, was from...
	Who started that?
	Some douchebag politicians.
	Yes.
	So this is...
	It's the same people writing all this.
	The southern crusader states, which can be reached with ease by even a rudimentary boat.
	I'm just telling you what it says.
	Well, there are lots of people escaping from...
	Yeah, they're all dying.
	Most of them are drowning.
	It's not a minor thing to take the boat from Libya to Italy, which is where they're headed, or Sicily.
	And Lampedusa is where there are thousands of refugees just piled up on top of each other.
	No one gives a crap.
	In Europe.
	They don't want to know about it.
	Of course, the Italians do.
	Anyway, therefore, the opportunities that lie in the exploitation of human trafficking rings make Libya unparalleled as a launching platform for attacking European states and shipping lines.
	This is so good.
	With what?
	They've got no boats.
	They've got no planes.
	How are they going to attack anything?
	Oh, wait.
	Let me get this straight.
	It's going to be like the Somalia pirates.
	They're going to come out there in these little dinghies.
	And trick people into letting them on board?
	Is that what they're going to do?
	I'm just reading the document.
	This document is bullcrap.
	Yeah, but it's important because this is the script.
	The document spends much time discussing the abundance of light, medium, and heavy munitions in Libya, both those that ended up in the hands of revolutionaries and those stockpiled by al-Qaddafi during his reign.
	And our CIA.
	Yes, in which he squandered all of Libya's oil revenues, which ranged between $30 and $45 billion a year upon the purchase of weapons.
	There was, of course, that weapon thing that he got screwed on, and we wouldn't refund his money.
	And the document urgently calls upon jihadists to make their way to Libya as soon as possible before inaction means that the weapons are effectively surrendered to the crusaders.
	And then there's just a whole bunch of instructions.
	There's crusaders there now?
	Who are they?
	The crusaders are us.
	Yeah, we're fighting them, so we're the crusaders.
	We're not really there.
	No.
	But okay.
	And you ask how they're going to...
	I just read this...
	Yeah, how do they get from...
	This is a long trip, by the way.
	It's close to at least 800 miles, maybe 1,000.
	Well, here's what I got.
	The Obama administration is preparing to equip the so-called moderate Syrian rebels with the ability to order airstrikes.
	They're going to give them vehicles with radios so they can call in airstrikes from B-1B bombers.
	Does this sound right?
	No!
	This does sound right.
	One of those things, it costs a fortune to operate.
	And, as well as pickup trucks with mounted machine guns, guess what pickup trucks we are going to be giving them?
	Fords.
	Toyota Hilux.
	Of course.
	The Toyota Hilux.
	That is the truck of terrorism.
	They should do their commercials that way.
	Boyd, before you go any further, play the Egypt-Libya crisis clip, which talks a little bit about Egypt getting involved in this.
	The president of Egypt called on the UN to form a coalition and intervene in Libya to fight the threat of Islamic State militants there.
	The request comes after the terrorist group beheaded 21 Egyptian Coptic Christians in Libya.
	President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi made his plea during a recorded audio interview that aired in Egypt.
	What is going on in Libya could change this country into a breeding ground that will threaten the whole region and not only Egypt.
	Egypt, the Mediterranean basin, and Europe have to deal with this problem because the mission was unaccomplished, was unfinished by our European friends.
	Someone's got to finish the job, Chuck.
	Yeah, that's the setup.
	Job wasn't finished.
	Let's go back.
	Now, before I do that, a little intervention.
	This showed up on, I think this was BBC even.
	Let me see.
	The president of Sudan gave an interview.
	The president of Sudan has warned that the fight against jihadist extremism must engage militants on an ideological level and not solely concentrate on military action against them.
	Omar al-Bashir warned that simply using violence against young radicals who fight with organizations like ISIL and al-Qaeda could lead to even more extremism.
	He says the CIA and Mossad are behind Boko Haram and ISIL. He was speaking exclusively to Euronews in the week that ISIL released a video purporting to show the execution of 21 Egyptians.
	I said CIA and the Mossad stand behind these organizations.
	There is no Muslim who would carry out such acts.
	I'm thinking a little regime change for you there, buddy.
	Yeah, he's got a short life.
	Don't get any hot tubs that has lids on it.
	Don't take any small planes.
	This is a very bad idea.
	So the president holds this conference.
	Isn't that great?
	By the way, that's Clip of the Day.
	You know what?
	I think it's...
	I'll take it.
	Because it is kind of find of the day.
	It's pretty unbelievable, this guy.
	Clip of the Day.
	Yeah, I mean, what is he thinking?
	What is he thinking?
	It's nothing I got.
	Has he never heard of Djibouti, where we have these, you know, drones?
	He's going to find himself on the short end of a long selfie stick.
	So the president is just moving all of this forward.
	Like we have to now believe that social medias are just uncontrollable.
	It's uncontrollable.
	Here he is.
	It's uncontrollable.
	You can't stop it.
	You can't stop any of this.
	And these guys, by the way, I've heard this, that ISIL and ISIS, whatever you want to call them, advertising, whatever you want to call them.
	Yeah.
	They are geniuses somehow in social media.
	We have to recognize that our best partners in all these efforts, the best people to help protect individuals from falling victim to extremist ideologies, are their own communities, their own family members.
	We have to be honest with ourselves.
	Terrorist groups like Al-Qaeda and ISIL deliberately target their propaganda in the hopes of reaching People who like kittens and Nutella!
	And brainwashing.
	Brainwashing.
	Wow.
	Brainwashing.
	Young Muslims.
	Mm-hmm.
	Especially those who may be disillusioned or wrestling with their identity.
	Or have no jobs.
	That's the truth.
	Yeah, let's get some jobs going here in the United States.
	The high quality videos, the online magazines.
	Oh, high quality videos, online magazines.
	Use of social media.
	Use of social media.
	Terrorist Twitter accounts.
	Terrorist Twitter accounts.
	Write that one down.
	Terrorist Twitter accounts.
	It's all designed to target today's young people online in cyberspace.
	It's working.
	Cyberspace.
	And by the way, the older people here, as wise and respected as you may be, your stuff is often boring compared to what they're doing.
	Yeah, we need to kill some people.
	Wait a second, a round of applause.
	Because they're all...
	I'm asking you.
	I'm trying to explain.
	Because the people who went to this conference on violent extremism, first of all, it was thrown together.
	They're so happy.
	You get an invite from the White House, you get a heart on.
	Like, I'm going to the White House.
	I'd like to know why it was thrown together.
	Since you are all over this, you must have some thoughts on why did this get thrown together.
	Exactly, you're right.
	It was thrown together at the last minute.
	Well, let's think about it.
	A bunch of bull crap.
	Obama trying to keep himself from getting too involved, if he can.
	Well, it's because...
	His own people on the other side of the fence on that.
	What I think...
	Is we need the authorization for use of military force, and we need as many voices as possible, as many soundbites, as much influence to be exerted so that the American public goes, yeah, whatever.
	Go ahead.
	So there's no backlash.
	Backlash against Congress, which is already all in.
	Yeah, but no one wants to be singled out, you know, and that's why it's a resolution, you know, and make it very fuzzy and easy, and, you know, I think that's about it.
	They really need to get this going so that the president, the president and the president alone, and we read the resolution to you, it's a couple pages, very simple, so it can kill anybody, anytime, anywhere, at his pleasure.
	At his pleasure.
	You're not connected.
	And as a consequence, you are not connecting.
	So these terrorists are a threat first and foremost.
	Wait, hold on a second.
	What is he telling this audience that they're not connected?
	I'm guaranteeing that 90% of them have Facebook accounts.
	Sure.
	Half of them are on Twitter.
	But they're boring.
	And they're all on LinkedIn.
	They're boring.
	What's he talking about?
	That they're boring.
	He said you're boring because they've got slick videos of, you know, throat slashes.
	No, no.
	He says you're boring.
	You're not connected.
	Okay.
	That's what he said.
	Okay.
	No.
	I think he said a little bit.
	Because you're not connected.
	You're not connected.
	You're not connected.
	Cyber space.
	Let's listen.
	By the way.
	And by the way, the older people here.
	That, and hello, ageism.
	What is that?
	What is older people, 90?
	I don't know.
	We're in his audience.
	The older people, you suck.
	Because you're too old to know social media or something.
	It's ageism.
	As wise and respected as you may be.
	Well, of course I feel good now.
	Your stuff is often boring.
	Often boring.
	Compared to what they're doing.
	Let's listen.
	He says compared to...
	Hold on, let's listen.
	Compared to what they're doing.
	Compared to what they're doing.
	Making shit videos?
	You're not connected.
	You're not connected.
	You're still on dial-up.
	You AOL people.
	And as a consequence, you are not connecting.
	Ooh.
	So these terrorists are a threat, first and foremost, to the communities that they target.
	Well, he just jumped over that one.
	Yeah.
	You're boring, you're not connected, so therefore you're not connecting.
	Oh, that's a good one.
	That's very creative.
	You're not connected, so you're not connecting.
	And then he just drops it.
	Well, again, who is really in this audience?
	And it's bullcrap.
	Everybody in that audience is connected.
	Yeah, of course it is.
	Bullshit!
	Why is their stuff boring?
	What's boring about their stuff?
	What is their stuff?
	What's he talking about?
	You're really asking all the right questions.
	It's just I can't answer them for you because it's bullcrap.
	First and foremost to the communities that they target, which means communities have to take the lead in protecting themselves.
	And that's true here in America as it's true anywhere else.
	Okay.
	Now let me ask you a question.
	So amidst all of this social media fear that we've been going through, we hear now that ISIS, ISIL, had 40 children in a cage, they're going to burn them alive, they're burning people, they want to, just burning people.
	I don't understand how in the same day you can say that they're burning people while you have this report.
	With ISIS locked in battle with Iraqi forces in al-Baghdadi, eyewitness accounts from the western Iraqi town claim the terror group is burning the bodies of soldiers and tribesmen killed in the fighting to desecrate them.
	Today, the Pentagon indicated there is video of the victims, which it is now analyzing.
	Certainly wouldn't surprise any of us here if it turns out to be authentic and true, given the kinds of atrocities that this group continues to wage against innocent civilians.
	And from Iraq's ambassador to the United Nations, another startling claim.
	Okay, now we just heard they're burning people.
	Now we have another startling claim.
	Same report.
	ISIS is harvesting human organs from its victims in Iraq, selling them on the black market in Europe for profit.
	Wait a minute.
	Hey, hey, Abdul, this heart is burnt to a crisp.
	What good is it to me?
	It is shit.
	You give me no good product.
	This product is burnt.
	Come on!
	Come on!
	I think this comes back to your newsletter, actually.
	A dozen doctors in Mosul who refuse to operate, he says, were murdered.
	Is this the murdered doctor thing that you had in the newsletter?
	No.
	There's a different murder.
	Good.
	I like this.
	I like this.
	So let's get this straight.
	I am going insane.
	So we have a lot of...
	You see, this is the problem with the Pentagon.
	I think they have something like 10,000 people in PR. Yeah, in media relations.
	In media, and they all have these...
	Obviously, now they're conflicting with each other.
	In the same report.
	They're either burning people to death, or they're cutting out their organs and burning them to death, or they're just cutting out their organs and not burning them, or the doctors who aren't cutting out their organs, they get killed, so they have to find...
	New doctors who can do this.
	There's not that many people that can do this correctly.
	And then they need ice, they need a transportation system to get their hearts and organs and lungs and whatever else they're pulling out of these people.
	To sell in Europe.
	They're burning them afterwards or they're burning them before?
	We have no idea.
	They're burning children.
	There's good organs in those kids.
	Yeah, kids got good organs.
	Now they're burning them alive, supposedly.
	This makes no sense.
	You can't just harvest an organ from a guy after he's been burnt alive.
	And you can't be in a cage alive when your organs have been harvested before you get burned.
	This is just too much, too much.
	But then they're going to sell it in Europe.
	They need one guy to coordinate this information.
	Well, I think that's why Kirby's out.
	Yeah, they do need a professional.
	Gee, who could that be?
	I wonder.
	Who do you think?
	Maybe it could be a really big name.
	Because traditionally, the Pentagon spokeshold, it never gets the press that the White House spokesman gets.
	The White House gets number one press.
	And number two has got to be state.
	Right.
	And that's only recently.
	And I think DOD, we've really been on it for a long time, but only with Kirby, it really became fun and entertaining.
	Right.
	And he will be missed, by the way.
	Well, there's all kinds of other briefings that go.
	Navy has one.
	Well, let's listen to the rest of this report.
	Joint Chiefs have one.
	There may be some clues here in the rest of this report.
	So we have, let's see, we have doctors won't do it.
	They kill him.
	And by the way, they're selling him in Europe.
	So, yeah, your question is very good.
	Do they have it on ice and they take one of those rickety boats they're talking about to go to Italy?
	What are they doing?
	If they're just flying over, they have to fly them over on one of those special flights.
	They have certain code names.
	They fly them over with the heart inside.
	Why don't they just backtrack and see who said this thing?
	...in Iraq and selling them on the black market in Europe for profit. A dozen doctors in Mosul who refused to operate, he says, were murdered. These are, in fact, crimes of genocide committed against humanity that must be held accountable before international justice.
	Great.
	Without even mentioning the traffic of human organs.
	CNN has not been able to confirm the claims, and the ambassador offered no proof.
	Oh, well, it doesn't matter.
	Report it anyway.
	The UN, however, tells CNN... Go ahead.
	Good.
	Good to go.
	...and it is investigating.
	If true, what could be driving the terror group's increasingly extreme tactics?
	I think the more SAG benefits...
	ISIS financing has suffered as the U.S.-led air campaign has destroyed many of the group's lucrative oil facilities.
	Oh, I didn't know that.
	I heard one half-mini refinery, and then they show a big black-and-white picture of some explosion.
	Oh, that must be a refinery.
	And while ISIS recruiting remains strong, more and more attracting women and highly educated people, these extreme atrocities often film...
	What?
	Women?
	There goes the jobs theory...
	Women and highly educated people.
	There's two separate things, by the way.
	Just want you to know.
	I want you to understand that women and highly educated people.
	Women who eat Nutella.
	And professors.
	I can't believe.
	They're out of control with stories.
	Recruiting remains strong, more and more attracting women and highly educated people.
	These extreme atrocities, often filmed, get attention, which in turn further fuels recruiting.
	We've already seen them burn people alive in cages.
	This guy is great.
	Listen to this.
	It's just par for the course for ISIS. I mean, they've been crucifying people in Syria for the past two years.
	There really is no form of atrocity or, you know, sort of gruesome death that they haven't thought of.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	Oh, I got some ideas.
	How about drawn and quartering?
	We haven't seen that.
	What do you think, John?
	I think drawn and quartering would be very entertaining.
	I think it's too hard to do special effects.
	No, listen, you get the jib.
	I mean, even when they did Braveheart and they drawed and quartered Mel Gibson, they didn't really show much.
	Old movie, old technology, come on.
	This is the 2015s.
	I can visualize.
	We got a jib shot from above or just a crane.
	A moving jib.
	Of course.
	You don't use a jib unless you're moving it around.
	Think about it.
	Visualize.
	Fade up from black.
	External.
	Desert scene.
	We have a four brand new Toyota Hiluxes in a, you know, like a star formation, well, just four, and then we have the dude in the middle, and we tie up an arm to one Toyota, another arm, the leg, the leg, and then we...
	We're up.
	We've got the shot from the top, right?
	And we're going to actually rotate.
	That's cool.
	That just shows how much money we put into the rotating cam head.
	And then, boom, boom, you're going to see each one of the Toyotas start.
	This, by the way, is where we get the product placement in.
	Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
	And then you have, maybe we'll have some Nutella lady with some kittens who drops a flag.
	You know, like in Grease Lightning.
	Right, while she's got a spoon of Nutella.
	Because she's eating Nutella.
	And then slowly, right?
	They go really slow, and then all of a sudden...
	And then they slow-mo it.
	Of course.
	Hello.
	Yeah.
	And then it fades to black before we actually see the guy ripped apart.
	Of course.
	But then you'll see, it will come back from black, and then you see bits and pieces, and maybe a kitten.
	Yeah, you see an arm at the end of a rope.
	Maybe a kitten licking on a stump.
	Yes!
	Absolutely!
	And then the kitten goes, and there's a rat nearby, and a rat takes off.
	Everybody, that is the state of the propaganda that is being bestowed upon you, and I just can't make much more of it.
	What can you do?
	It's out of control.
	Outrageous.
	The body organ thing is just completely ridiculous.
	Yeah, they've already stolen $40 million or a billion or whatever they have from the banks and got all this money.
	But they make a few extra dimes because every little bit helps.
	They're harvesting organs by the experts out there who don't know how to harvest organs.
	From the people we burn.
	From the burned people.
	From the burned people.
	Oh my God.
	And with that, I would like to thank you very much for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	In the morning to you, Adam Kerr, and in the morning to all the ships at sea, boots on the ground, subs in the water, and feet in the air, and all the dames and knights out there.
	In the morning to our human resources there in the chat room, noagendastream.com.
	Good to see you all hanging out, having a good time with us.
	Thank you to our artist, 20 Watt Bulb.
	What's the 20-watt bulb?
	Oh, no.
	I think I messed it up, actually.
	Yeah.
	6, 9, or 6.
	And the artwork was not by 20.
	I think it was Martin JJ. Let me just double-check.
	Yeah, it was Martin JJ.
	I had to go back and change all of the credits because I'd said 20-watt bulb for some reason.
	I don't know what was wrong with me.
	I think we were debating over our 20-watt bulb.
	It might have been that, yeah.
	And you, I was for the 20-watt bulb piece and then.
	Well, it was the HSBC logo with laundromat, HSBC laundromat.
	Yeah, it was very cute.
	That was pretty good for, you know, I like it.
	Yeah, I thought they turned out to be the best.
	I thought that was very nice.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can find all of the submissions for every single show.
	And you know what?
	I've got to tell you, this John Fletcher guy, you know who John Fletcher is, right?
	Yeah, Putin!
	Yeah, so this is how our show works.
	He's just sitting there, he's listening, he hears you do something, and then...
	Kirby!
	Last time we'll ever play that one.
	Geez.
	He already cranked it out and sent it in?
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, of course, he's the best shouter I've ever heard.
	Yeah.
	Kirby, play it again.
	The guy's phenomenal.
	Hold on a second.
	I didn't expect you to ask me to play it again, but yes, here it is.
	Kirby!
	Kirby!
	And he's got the ability to have that crack.
	Isn't it nice?
	As though it's like really screaming at the top of his lungs.
	Kirby!
	That's genius.
	I mean, that is professional.
	It's almost the same every time.
	The Putin one, he goes gravel about three quarters of the way through and it stays gravel to the end.
	Yeah.
	That is a professional quality shout.
	I don't know.
	If anyone from Hollywood's listening, use this guy.
	Yeah, for real.
	Of course, they're not listening.
	Otherwise, we get a fit part.
	You're right.
	He has been...
	He did something else for us.
	Let me play this for you.
	He said, I don't know if it'll work, but he said he had fun making these.
	He could get work, man.
	Yeah, no, that's professional quality laugh.
	He can get work.
	Yeah, he could.
	Put together, you know, he can do, there's a lot of these things that are, you know, you can get them from the sound trading groups and also the people who sell these things.
	I'm a member of one sound trading group and I contribute things.
	Yeah, I contributed the Birds of Holland.
	Oh, it's recordings.
	Yeah, recordings and stuff.
	I have a little rig, a little stereo rig.
	I can go record stuff.
	I just put a new rig together.
	I'm going to get the train that goes past.
	And I want to hear it coming and going in the other direction.
	Anyway, what you just heard for the past, well, pretty much the first hour of this program is not to be found anywhere else that I'm aware of.
	At least anybody who has a model where they can work on creating...
	A report like we just brought to you with all the time and energy and effort and work that goes into it.
	Also, the ample supply of information coming from the people who are not the product being sold, but the people for who this product is meant and intended, the producers as we call them, or the audience of the No Agenda show.
	And because we are funded purely by donations and support from the program, which we rightly call them producers, and people who come in with the higher amounts are executive producers for each episode or associate executive producers, just like Hollywood, except we don't go to the ad route, which is why we remain podcasters, but at least you can get some real deconstruction of what is being propagated or pressed upon you.
	Yeah, from every side imaginable.
	The right, the left, the middle, mainstream media, you know, alternative media.
	Fox News, MSNBC, everybody, they're all out to get you.
	And I also, of course, need to mention we have Eric DeShill, who works on coordinating as best he can our morass of administration.
	We have Void Zero, who actually keeps everything running for no pay, by the way.
	It's not like Void Zero's not getting paid.
	He loves us, and he's built this whole infrastructure that works.
	Artists, you know, artists putting together fantastic art, which is known to help the program.
	Oh, the artists are fantastic.
	Because it changes every single show.
	We've encouraged them.
	Now, I think, I was putting myself in the artist's shoes the other day, thinking, so you're, you know, you put these things in, and it's like, you just do, I mean, this is not like days of work.
	It's a quick, a quick, Ideas turned into the product.
	And then they post them.
	And then we pick one.
	And the picking process is a black art.
	It's a mystery.
	And we pick one.
	It is a mystery.
	It's part of the post-mortem.
	We actually do a post-mortem.
	Most shows don't do that.
	Here's how it goes.
	Okay.
	And we're clear.
	Are we streaming?
	I said, no.
	Well, okay.
	Don't ever do that again.
	Rarely.
	Sometimes you do.
	Don't ever do that again.
	We discuss the show so we can fine-tune it.
	And then we pick the art, and then we pick the title, and then we post the show, and then we do gossip.
	We gossip.
	We gossip a little bit.
	We gossip a little bit.
	But all these things are...
	I was putting myself in the shoes of the artist, and I was thinking that when the show gets posted and your art gets picked...
	I would say, I think that's probably a minor thrill.
	I would hope so.
	I won.
	Screw those other artists.
	Oh, you mean that way?
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, no, I think there's a little bit of that.
	Yeah, no.
	Let's thank a few people for being executive producers, one, and associate executive producers, four.
	The number one executive producer is Omar Anonymous from Long Island.
	From Omar, first-time donor, I'm in desperate need of some job karma and HR karma to make my family grow.
	Can you send me two to the head jobs little girl yay karma?
	Thanks for all the great work.
	$333.
	Two to the head, little girl, yay.
	Jobs, karma, that was the whole thing?
	I can probably do that.
	Let me see.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs.
	You've got karma.
	Of course, happy to do it.
	Thank you.
	Trevor Mudge in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
	27182.
	Haven't donated lately, so here's another amount based on a well-known number.
	Keep up with the good work.
	Best podcast in the U. 27182?
	Oh, wait.
	Isn't that the most...
	Is that the boring number?
	Is that the Fibonacci number?
	Look it up.
	Look it up.
	271.
	Is it 82?
	Yeah.
	82 number...
	I remember something about this.
	Thank you.
	Not very helpful.
	I don't know.
	I can't remember what it was.
	Did you look at it in wiki?
	The wiki usually says what it is.
	I just entered 271.82 in number into Google and I got a whole bunch of things that doesn't help.
	Oh.
	Okay, well...
	Someone will remember.
	Alright, there we have Joan Dottifray.
	Dame Joanie.
	Dame Joanie.
	Is she not higher in the peerage at this point?
	She probably is.
	I'm sure she is.
	I don't know what it could be.
	She's from Motown, baby.
	Well, if you call Morgantown.
	When you live in West Virginia, Morgantown is Motown.
	Huh.
	ITM, John and Adam, I really, really love you guys and meant to donate for the Valentine's promo, but life got busy and I didn't manage.
	Please accept this donation and forgive me for being remiss.
	Oh, that's okay.
	Hold on one second.
	There we go.
	I think I need a de-douching.
	You can even douchebag me first if it makes things right.
	I deserve it.
	No, de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	Please do not shorten the show as it would not be in the best interest of the people who should be allowed to stay on the island.
	The douchebags who want a shorter show should be kicked off immediately.
	Off the island?
	It's voted off, not kicked off, voted off.
	Yeah, voted off.
	Well, we leave everyone on the island.
	I had this weird thought yesterday.
	When they keep talking about the Muslims, the Muslims, the 101.2, 1.8 billion people, Muslims, Muslims.
	Maybe the whole plan here is just to vote all the Muslims off the island.
	I don't know.
	Sometimes you have to wonder.
	You do.
	And that's what we do on this show, we wonder.
	May I please have an ISIS, ISIS baby, and a Gitmo Nation anthem at the end of the show.
	Thank you both for your courage and for some sanity.
	Much appreciated, Dame Joni.
	XOXO. Hugs and kisses.
	Isis, Isis, baby.
	That's somewhere else.
	Hold on.
	Isis, Isis.
	I hadn't cued that one.
	Oh, here we go.
	That's by Paul the book guy.
	Okay, yes.
	And did she want a karma as well?
	Was there something that went out?
	I would give her one.
	Isis, Isis, baby.
	Isis, Isis, baby.
	You've got karma.
	It's still a good one, isn't it?
	Yeah, there's something funny about it.
	Steven Schneider in Gurney, Illinois.
	214.15.
	And he just said it was a check in the mail.
	He just at the bottom of the check said karma, please.
	There you go, man.
	Thank you.
	You've got karma.
	Finally, on a short list today, Chuck Kendrick from Yukon, Oklahoma, 200.
	I'm following up on my last donation and request for karma.
	I've now successfully obtained a Canadian work visa and have become engaged to the woman John so nicely described as looking like Jennifer Garner.
	Oh, yeah.
	My now fiancé was very excited to hear the compliments and started listening to the podcast.
	Well, that's all we have to do then.
	Yeah.
	Listening to the podcast with me from time to time.
	Uh-oh, uh-oh.
	Red flag, red flag.
	From time to time.
	Now that we are engaged, you should be all the time.
	All the time.
	Now that we are engaged, I'm doubling my donation to a group.
	It doesn't take long to drift if you don't listen to the show.
	You see it, these people, I drifted.
	I drifted and drifted and I lost my way until I listened to No Agenda once again today.
	I'm doubling my donation to request wedding karma for us and the newly single karma for Adam.
	To ensure my email is read, I am including pictures of my gorgeous fiancée, Sarah.
	She is gorgeous.
	Yeah, she looks like Jennifer Gardner.
	She does look like Jennifer Gardner.
	Keep an eye on it, though, man, before you take the big plunge.
	Is it time to time?
	Is she just...
	She's listening to this one, I'll bet.
	I hope so.
	Because it can become kind of strange in a relationship if you don't kind of see eye-to-eye on all these things.
	It can be a strain.
	So, Karma, please?
	Yes, absolutely.
	Just thinking of the strain...
	You've got karma.
	That's it.
	And that concludes our producerships for show six.
	What is it?
	Six?
	What is it?
	Six, nine or seven.
	Six, nine, seven.
	We've got one, two, three more to go before we have the magical show 700.
	Yeah, and we have a special program that you put together.
	We have a special program.
	Now you can donate 70 or 700 or 700.
	And it will be...
	700 pennies, I guess.
	700 pennies, yes, for the people out there who have never donated.
	Generally, this was four.
	So they get their feet wet.
	And I want to remind people, it's Dvorak.org slash NA. There's a bunch of programs on there that you can sign up for, and it's very educational.
	Thevork.org slash NA and help us for the upcoming Sunday show, which is going to be only a couple of days away.
	I have a note here and I have a link.
	Are we PR-ing this No Agenda t-shirt thing?
	Oh yeah, right.
	We should, yeah.
	Everybody tries to, we admire anyone who tries to make money on t-shirts.
	How many do you think there's been?
	There must have been at least 10 by now.
	Even Eric DeShiel has tried it.
	So what I'm looking at here, and actually I'm going to put this in, so the link is in, I'm afraid now to use the ITM.IM URL shortener, because that apparently doesn't work anymore.
	This is on Teespring, so the link will be in the show notes.
	It's some nice shirts.
	They've got, let's see, this is the Noagenda logo on one, the NoagendaShow.com on the back, then Crackpot and Buzzkill, producer of the best podcast in the universe, Let's see.
	There's a producer, like a football jersey with number 33 on the back.
	Shut up, slave.
	A barcode, which is always my favorite, with slave underneath it.
	A smiley face with a big X on the mouth.
	Shut up, slave.
	Some nice things.
	Who made this?
	Who made this?
	I don't know.
	Here it is.
	Any chance you guys can give...
	This is Alan Woodyard.
	Any chance you guys can spread the word about the No Agenda T-shirts tomorrow?
	Percy's are going to show 700.
	The only ones that meet the minimums will be printed, so they're not going to all be printed.
	And right now, that's looking like only two, maybe three designs.
	And it's teespring.com slash stores slash N-A shirts.
	Capital N-A shirts.
	Yeah, capital N-A shirts.
	I would like him to make...
	An additional one, if you can.
	I think for the upcoming...
	Hot Pockets!
	Hot Pockets Tour, we have a subtitle.
	It's Hot Pockets, The Tour of Tears.
	I thought it was a tour of...
	Sorrow.
	No, I think Tour of Tears is...
	Tour of Tears?
	I know Sorrow better, personally.
	Well, I'll tell you what.
	Let's leave it up to the artists.
	It's a contest for the artists.
	Let the artists do a thing for you.
	And by the way, we need a 700 show, some 700 show art.
	Oh, yes.
	I can use it in the newsletter immediately.
	All right, everybody.
	Thank you so much.
	Let me finish.
	I do have to get one guy.
	One guy called my brother for not donating.
	He gave a shout out to his podcast.
	I also requested some jingles while donating 23456.
	I understand if you don't want competition for your listener base, but his show doesn't take donations.
	I should have said as much, but you read a message just before my donation pretty much said, screw you, Adam.
	My last email, this is from Jeffrey Maxwell.
	Jeffrey, when you send a note, send us a complete note.
	We don't care about plugging somebody's podcast, but it's not mentioned in this note.
	I have no idea what he's talking about.
	I don't know what he's talking about either.
	But anyway, Jeffrey, let's clear this up.
	All right.
	These are real credits.
	Anywhere credits are accepted, they will be valid.
	If you need validation, unlike the phonies in Hollywood, we'll be happy to vouch for you.
	And again, as John said, we've got a show come up on Sunday, so please support us for that as well.
	Dvorak.org And always, if your help is needed, to go out there and propagate our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Order!
	Order!
	Shut up, slave!
	Shut up, slave!
	Yo!
	Okay.
	I just want to plug something.
	Okay.
	So I was complaining about my stapler jamming.
	By itself...
	It's strange because it's not complicated.
	I figure staplers are junk.
	So I got a letter from producer Daniel Hochstein.
	He says, I bought my Max stapler a few years ago and nearly crapped in my pants.
	It's so good.
	Get one and it has to be the best there is ever.
	Search Max Flat Cinch Standard Stapler on Amazon.
	So I bought one.
	Wow!
	Oh, send me the link, will you?
	This thing is, for one thing, it's extremely well made, and it's got little things that happen on it that are just fantastic.
	John, what is the name of it again?
	It's the Max Flat Cinch Standard Stapler.
	I got it.
	The key is it makes a flat cinch.
	It says clinch on Amazon.
	Oh, well, it should say cinch, because it's a cinch, not a clinch.
	Whatever the case, that's it.
	It's like $20.
	And you have the red one?
	It's the small one?
	I got the cheapest one.
	They're all the same ones colored red.
	Gee, what a surprise.
	I got the standard size ones, and it was black, and it was $19.
	I'm putting this in the show notes.
	This thing is a fantastic product.
	Huh.
	And when you staple, it's got a beautiful mechanism.
	It staples, and the staples are bent around and flat as a pancake on the bottom, and the two ends of a standard stapler touch, so there's no little thing that can catch a cloth or anything.
	It forms a perfect little thing that's flat as a pancake, so when you stack papers that are stapled, it's not bumped up by the lumpy staple that you get with other staplers.
	It's a fantastic stapler.
	You know, I love...
	Who makes this?
	Max?
	Who's Max?
	I don't know.
	It just says Max.
	M-A-X. Are they American outfit?
	I threw the box away.
	I don't know.
	Things like this.
	This is a very old American saying.
	You make a better mousetrap.
	And it seems like these guys have made a better stapler.
	They have.
	You know what else is up for disruption?
	A product that can be made so much better?
	The ice maker in refrigerators.
	Have you ever looked at...
	I mean, you've got that silly-ass wire that when the ice is there, it flips up, which mind broke.
	That's how I was thinking about it.
	That's why you're complaining.
	But, you know, why can't we have...
	And in all refrigerators, it's pretty much the same.
	It's like an inserted unit.
	And it's a very simple way of making one type of ice cubes.
	Why can't you have, like, the big round ball?
	You can choose.
	You should have different options.
	Different kinds of ice cubes.
	I think it would be a product that could be disrupted.
	It could be a better mousetrap.
	Yeah, I guess.
	It's not something that you can make.
	You have to be part of a larger organization to make that happen.
	You have to be an engineer in a refrigerator company.
	Well, or you could have a podcast with a whole bunch of people who know how to do this stuff, like 3D printers.
	We can build a refrigerator to take on Sub-Zero.
	I don't know about that.
	All right.
	Eurozone?
	Let's see what I've got on my list, Sarah.
	Yeah, we can go Eurozone.
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah, well, I was going to say I don't have...
	I got the setup.
	I got the setup.
	Greece will today ask the Eurozone to extend what it is calling a loan agreement, and European officials are calling a bailout.
	Negotiations between the Greek government and the Eurogroup have continued since Monday, when Athens rejected the prospect of more bailout funds and the accompanying austerity measures.
	Greece's finance minister said, I think that if we continue in this fashion, tomorrow at the Euro Working Group there will be a good conclusion on a technical level.
	An analysed text will have been agreed upon and on Friday through teleconferencing, typically Greece's position will be approved.
	With the bailout due to expire at the end of this month, Eurozone finance ministers earlier this week had given Greece an ultimatum to accept conditional funding or suffer the consequences.
	Knowing it's burning through its cash reserves, Athens has few options but is looking for a compromise with the Eurozone which will be acceptable to Greek voters.
	A couple of things.
	One...
	It appears that Angela and the...
	What's his name?
	Schobel.
	They stepped into a bear trap on this one.
	Everyone was thinking, oh, maybe Rush will come in and bail them out.
	It now appears that the idea here is for Greece to default inside the Eurozone.
	I don't think people were expecting that.
	This feels like something...
	Like a fast one.
	Well, I would say that you're probably right, because I wasn't expecting this scenario as it unfolded.
	It's a very interesting play that's going on.
	And the Germans, it was almost like we, this just reminds me of the red line in the sand kind of thing that Obama did with the chemical weapons.
	If they cross it, you know, we're going to do this and that.
	They didn't do anything, of course, because, of course, there's other reasons.
	Right.
	I think Germany should have shut up about this when it first began, instead of being so adamant.
	And it's an EU issue, not a German issue, even though it's a lot of German money, because most of the money is German money.
	Germany's running the show.
	Yeah, they're running the show, but they could step back a little bit and see how the game is going before you start making these claims.
	They can't do this, they can't do that, they have to pay what they agreed to.
	Yeah.
	They should have shut up.
	It was poorly played.
	And I learned this, the Greek finance minister, Yanis Varoufakis, he's not a member of the Syriza party.
	I didn't realize this.
	He was brought in and appointed.
	A lot of people say he's great.
	I don't know.
	He's got all this American, British background.
	He looks like a thug, which I think is cool.
	It's not that cool.
	Yeah, it is.
	I like my people in the government looking like thugs.
	If they're going to act like it, might as well look the part.
	I think that this...
	This is a problem, and it's probably, it seems manufactured.
	It seems like, yeah, as you said, it was a surprising move.
	Like, you know what?
	Yeah, we're just going to stick it out.
	We need another six months and give us a bridge loan.
	What is the bridge loan?
	Yeah, what is a bridge loan in this case?
	I was going to say they're running a high-tech company.
	That's exactly how you do it.
	It must be, they must need $10 billion as a bridge.
	I have no idea.
	Well, bottom line is, you know, they can't just default by grease themselves inside the Eurozone.
	It just doesn't work that way.
	But the whole idea of Grexit was a red herring.
	They're not going to exit.
	They're just going to blow it up inside.
	I don't know.
	They're not exiting.
	But ultimately, the way this was set up, and I think this is why it's...
	I think this thug guy, by the way, who seems to be pretty adept, At some point, somebody said, no, no, we can't exit the Eurozone.
	It would not be good for us.
	What we want to do is stay in.
	They had this rationale that we could benefit from staying in.
	And so they're staying in.
	And by staying in, the EU has to deal with them.
	And they can't kick them out.
	In fact, I went back and read my notes.
	This show started back in the day when, for me, it was reading the Lisbon Treaty, which I had, you know, the public was being told something completely different about EU.
	And I read the Lisbon Treaty and the protocols that go along with it.
	There is specific, it specifically states in the documentation of the Lisbon Treaty itself, there is no way to exit the EU.
	There is no way, you see. - Okay.
	Yeah, there's no mechanism.
	That's why there's no way.
	There is no mechanism.
	And let me see.
	There is Article 50...
	Which is, I think, what the UK is talking about using.
	It still takes two years' notice.
	You have to send all the...
	There's a bunch of paperwork.
	It's a divorce.
	A bunch of paperwork.
	And Article 50 has some provisions that could be...
	But still, things have to be added.
	But you can't just say, we're out, we don't want to do it anymore.
	It is not possible, according to the treaty that has made the EU. Deliberately designed as an irreversible move.
	Yeah, that's why there will be a civil war sometime in the future.
	Because these countries just...
	I mean, I could be wrong.
	It's not like Germany hasn't screwed Greece in the past.
	And there's also the France-Germany impasse.
	I mean, these two countries are not culturally similar.
	Somehow...
	What I see happening, and of course I hear a lot of European news because my ear is tuned to it because of my European background, It's quite interesting to see all of this fear, all of the Muslims killing people.
	Italy is now guarding tourist attractions.
	Everyone is on high alert.
	We're all afraid.
	We're all going to be killed.
	There's no more money.
	Everything's blowing up.
	And you think, how could that ever happen?
	World War II, that would never happen again.
	And as it turns out, I think it can.
	I was raised to believe that these things just was impossible.
	That's the way they felt after World War I. I know.
	The Great War.
	It was a war to end all wars.
	But now we have internet and we know people.
	Every war is a little different, so this one will be...
	What do you think it will be?
	I think we've talked about this.
	Well, I've always believed it would just be another beef between France and Germany at some point.
	Right, but will we actually be going into this?
	That's never been resolved until one country takes the other country and takes it over.
	I don't think that's even possible.
	Will we see German troops in the streets of Marseille?
	It would be French troops in the streets of Berlin.
	Yeah, it's also possible.
	Depends on who gets troops first.
	I mean, don't forget the French have the A-bomb and the Germans don't.
	Right.
	Just keeping with the politics and fear-mongering, I found this to be abhorrent.
	Gitmo Nation East, known as our beta testing ground for all things propaganda and telling the slaves to shut up in the UK. Channel 4...
	Is coming out with a mockumentary.
	Don't they have elections coming up sometime soon?
	They always seem to have something happening.
	Bottom line...
	What's Channel 4?
	Channel 4 in the UK? Oh, okay.
	UKIP is, of course, growing with leaps and bounds.
	You and I have always thought very highly of Nigel Farage, certainly in European Parliament.
	Great show material.
	He's always funny.
	He's always on point.
	They've tried to kill him a couple times.
	Whenever we do this, we get just an influx of letters of how he's racist, they're racist, they're horrible, just sucks.
	But meanwhile, the British people seem to keep voting for UKIP. And now Channel 4 has done something which I can't believe that this goes on, but they created a mockumentary what the UK would be like After 100 days of UKIP being the majority party and running the country.
	Wow.
	This is talk about partisan.
	This is with Nigel Farage as prime minister.
	Sure.
	Which could happen.
	Oh, yeah.
	And this is meant to scare the shit out of people.
	Welcome back to General Election 2015.
	Imagine a future.
	And the winner is UKIP. In which UKIP come to power.
	Nigel Farage has declared victory.
	I see the new Prime Minister driving in.
	It is a disappointing result.
	It is gutting.
	We've been told that UKIP will roll out a series of bold policies over their first hundred days in office.
	UKIP have spoken and delivered just about now.
	A one-off drama.
	UKIP. The First Hundred Days.
	Monday at nine on Forbes.
	I'll promise you one thing.
	You ain't seen nothing yet.
	It's Carnage!
	So this is a series?
	No, I think it's a one-off.
	A one-off.
	You haven't seen it yet?
	No, it hasn't come out yet.
	But a lot of people complaining about this.
	Oh, yeah.
	Hey, wait a minute.
	And really, you have to see the actual promo.
	The video adds a lot to it.
	Just headlines, newspaper headlines of all the horrible things that UKIP will do.
	Oh, yeah.
	They're going to ruin everything now.
	Wait for them.
	They're racists.
	Now, I have another thing, and then I just want to stop and rest for a moment, but I got to get all this stuff out.
	Holder, who, did he resign?
	Eric Holder, our Attorney General.
	He seems like he still thinks he's in office because he's giving speeches.
	And by the way, you brought this up some time ago, and now I'm actually annoyed by it, which is this Continuation of calling somebody what they were before.
	They had, I watched the Saturday Night Live thing, which was a very...
	Oh, I missed that.
	It was, they had some good bits.
	A lot of friends of mine worked on that show.
	It was mostly just a bunch of people, you know, patting each other on the back.
	Right, right, right.
	But there was...
	Let me guess, a lot of Brian Williams jokes?
	There was quite a, not a lot, but a few.
	Of course, okay.
	And they, you know, they had a Cosby joke too.
	Oh, good, good, good.
	But they had Sarah Palin in the audience and they were doing a question and answer.
	And Tina Fey, what would you like to say?
	Sarah Palin.
	Oh, I'm sorry, Governor.
	Oh, I see what you're saying.
	Governor Palin.
	And I'm thinking, she's not the governor.
	And I'm more, I thought about this because you complained about this.
	You know, Clinton is called President Clinton.
	That's not what he is.
	He's not the president.
	He's former President Clinton.
	And I remember when I was a kid, that's the way it was done.
	It would be former President Clinton and they would call him, you know, sir, or they'd go to your honor or something.
	There'd be a lot of terms, but you wouldn't call him president because he's not the president.
	You know, Uncle Don is always referred to by people as Ambassador Gregg.
	Yeah.
	Well, if you're referred that way, you probably don't say anything.
	I just don't want to be referred to as...
	I just gave some speeches in Brazil, and they always introduced me as Dr.
	Dvorak.
	And you did not correct them, I'll bet.
	No, I mean, what am I supposed to do?
	But it turns out that a public speaker in Brazil is routinely called doctor for the purposes of the speech.
	And I think in some cultures, you're just called, you know, whatever, you know, you're given a speech, thus you get the monarch.
	Well, he still is the Attorney General.
	Is he not?
	They put the other woman in, or didn't they?
	Maybe she's still under advice.
	Did they confirm her?
	They confirmed her and approved her.
	Let's take a look.
	Hold on a second.
	Let's look it up.
	We definitely need to check this out.
	Consult the Book of Knowledge.
	Attorney General We'll just do a simple little...
	I don't know if she got...
	You know, it's so hard to keep track of...
	Let's see.
	United States Attorney General.
	Go to the wikis.
	The wiki says it's still Eric Holder.
	Yeah.
	What's taking so long?
	I don't know.
	Anyway, Attorney General Eric Holder, he has an eye problem.
	His left eye.
	I don't know if someone schwacked him on the eye.
	Yeah, he's got a loose eye.
	He's got a loose eye.
	What is it called?
	Is the name for that?
	A stye?
	No, no, no.
	He's got an eyeball issue.
	He's got a lazy eye.
	Lazy eye.
	His left eye is a lazy eye.
	So if he's tired, he starts to wander around.
	I think he should wear an eye patch.
	Ahoy!
	That would fit his personality more.
	Yeah, it would, actually.
	So I'm listening to a little speech he's doing at...
	Actually, it was a speech and question and answer at the press club.
	Yes, I saw this, too, and I couldn't get a clip from it.
	Yeah, I got a clip because...
	Something he said really bothered, really bothered me.
	Gee, go figure.
	Almost as bad as Harf, Bandcamp Girl.
	So he's asked questions about whistleblowers.
	And he goes through this whole thing like, well, you know, I'm sorry?
	I was going to say, if I was in the audience, and one of the things he asserted was, well, one of the great things we can do as Attorney General, we can...
	It was like pick and choose what we do.
	We can pick not to.
	There's a lot of laws that we don't enforce because we choose not to.
	And all this sort of thing.
	Prosecutorial discretion is what that's called.
	That's the word I was looking for.
	Good work.
	Thank you.
	And he was going on about this.
	And I was thinking if I was in the US, I'd ask a simple question.
	Well, Obama's always said that, you know, the states have some rights when it comes to legalizing marijuana.
	Why do you guys keep going after legitimate medical marijuana shops in California in particular and other places?
	When if you have this, why do you back off on certain things?
	And then you go after the dope guys in California when it's legal in California to sell medical marijuana.
	Or even they're always threatening to go after Colorado where it's legal just to sell it on the street.
	That's what I'd ask him.
	Well, there's a reason why you're not in the press club.
	You're annoying with your questions.
	It's a good question.
	Yes, it's a good question.
	There was a question about whistleblowers and who they're going after and why.
	More than all whistleblowers in the entire universe, Obama's gone after more than the total before.
	Under the Treason Act.
	Yeah, the Espionage Act, actually.
	Espionage, I'm sorry, you're right.
	And, wow, my ear just closed up.
	Oh my God, I'm not hearing perfect stereo.
	So I pulled this little clip up where he's saying, well, okay, yes, you know, he's going after a journalist.
	He's referring to James Risen from Fox, Fox News.
	No, he isn't from New York Times.
	Yeah, New York Times, whatever.
	It's the same thing.
	Times, Fox, it's all the same.
	He's getting sloppy.
	Yeah, it's the same thing.
	I don't care.
	It's irrelevant because what he says here is just like, wow, okay.
	Because he's asking members of the press a question.
	And you and I are members of the press.
	We are journalists by definition.
	You are an actual journalist.
	I'm hitching a ride on your coattails, but we try to do journalistic work.
	When you have people who are disclosing, for instance, the identities of people who work in our intelligence agencies, that's the kind of case that I think we have to bring.
	But I also think there's a question for you all, for members of the press, as we have asked ourselves when it comes to national surveillance, simply because we have the ability to do certain things, should we?
	I think members of the press have to ask that same question.
	Simply because you have the ability to, because of a leaker or a source of information that you have, you have the ability to expose that to the public, should you?
	So what he's saying, I think there's some validity.
	Yes, just because you know something doesn't necessarily mean it is in the public interest for people to know about it.
	Fair, fair point, but then he comes with an example that shows you just what a giant anus cavity this guy is.
	Doesn't mean, and I'm not saying, it is for you to decide.
	It is not for the government to decide, but it is for you to decide.
	I'll use an extreme example, perhaps unfair.
	Why does he set that up?
	When someone says that, that's strange.
	That is strange.
	Well, his example was indeed unfair and very extreme.
	In World War II, if a reporter had found out about the existence of the Manhattan Project, is that something that should have been disclosed?
	No, we're not in a time of war, I understand.
	First of all, he says we're not in a time of war, where we are, because we're in a war against ISIS, ISIL, IS, Daesh, advertising, whatever.
	But he says...
	Should someone have exposed the Manhattan Project?
	An extreme example.
	And I'm thinking to myself, maybe the exposure of the Manhattan Project could have thwarted the killing of 129,000 Japanese in Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
	Nah, fuck it, they're Japs!
	Ha ha ha ha ha!
	Really, Holder?
	Is that a fair question?
	Is this guy insane?
	Are we proud now of incinerating these people?
	Should that have been stopped?
	Should it not have been stopped?
	Am I missing his point?
	Well, I don't know what his point is.
	He's saying, what I think he's saying is...
	If he stopped or not, it's another political debate that has never ended.
	Well, what he's saying is that World War II would have not stopped.
	Yeah, but the other thing he's saying is that if somebody revealed the project, I don't think it would make a damn bit of difference.
	What difference does it make?
	If somebody knew it was going on, oh, maybe it would have helped things.
	It would have ended the war.
	Oh, my God, they're going to blow this thing up on us.
	It might actually have been better that way.
	Yeah, that would seem like a plus.
	Instead, no, we had to keep it quiet so we could actually kill them because it's fun.
	Well, I don't know if that was his point, because I think he can't make a point.
	I found it to be a very...
	Well, yeah, I can see where you would.
	I think he's just...
	I don't know.
	I think the guy's just not that bright.
	Let's go over this.
	A lot of this is about this guy, John Kiriakou.
	Yes.
	Who was the guy...
	This guy is like...
	You know, I'm not a big fan of this guy.
	I mean, I heard it all...
	He's not a whistleblower.
	He never was.
	He got burned by the espionage act because they're busting everybody they can who just talks too much, which seems to be this guy in spades who now claims to have been a whistleblower.
	He's not like Benny and all the ex-NSA and other guys who were whistleblowers.
	They came out because they saw an injustice.
	This guy never did that.
	And let me read from a transcript that he had talking as an interview with this guy, Nourmeen Shakai.
	Can we just review briefly?
	He went to jail because he...
	He gave up somebody's name, supposedly, or he passed along some information to a New York Times reporter.
	This all got started.
	But let me read his explanation, which I believe is true.
	The guy says, John, you said that you were actually charged with espionage.
	Is that right?
	Can you explain the significance of the espionage act?
	Yes, the government initially charged me with espionage.
	It sounds silly, maybe, but I'm still personally offended by the charges, which were dropped, of course.
	The espionage charge is used by administration to force people into silence.
	My espionage charge is that I had...
	Involved having this conversation with a New York Times reporter.
	A New York Times reporter said that he was writing a story about a colleague of mine, and would I give him an interview?
	I said this colleague was a great guy.
	The problem is there's a word cut off on the end of each sentence.
	I said this colleague was a great guy in the Zubidou operation, a terrific officer in this operation.
	And the reporter said, can I get in touch with him?
	And I said, no, I've been out of touch with him for a long time, but I may have his business card.
	So I gave the reporter the business card, because he was not in the CIA anymore, or he was undercover, and his business card was involved as a CIA contractor, and he had his personal email on it.
	That's all he did.
	He had his card, which he apparently passed out all over the place.
	The guy knew who he was.
	He said, I want to get a hold of this guy.
	Well, here's his card, and that was the end of it, and somehow this was espionage, according to the government.
	So it goes on, and that's actually what this all is about.
	It's about him just giving a business card to someone, and he ends up with prison time over it because he shouldn't have even known the guy.
	I didn't know that.
	It was just a business card?
	Yeah, it was a business card exchange.
	That's kind of nutty.
	This was on Amy Goodman's show, by the way.
	Of course.
	And there's no whistleblowing.
	In this whole guy's story, if you listen to this interview, which is available on Democracy Now!, there's no whistleblowing involved, but all of a sudden he jumps on the whistleblowing bandwagon for some reason.
	I think it's to get compensation or something.
	I think there's some hope upon hope in the future through this very aggressive prosecution of these whistleblowers that Benny and the other guys are going to get a cash payout.
	And this guy wants to be part of it.
	But he was just a kind of a dumb guy in the CIA. And he said, oh yeah, that guy, I know him.
	The reporter knew who it was.
	He knew who it was.
	But because the CIA, when you sign up, you're supposed to not know anything.
	Remember when Chelsea Manning first put all these documents out?
	Everybody in the agency couldn't look at the downloads.
	That would be illegal.
	It would be illegal to know anything or to look at it.
	And so this is the kind of thing I guess with this guy.
	Because the guy was a CIA guy and he's working as a contractor, this Kiriakou guy is supposed to pretend to be stupid.
	I've never heard of him.
	Instead of saying, oh yeah, I got his card right here.
	Give him a call.
	And that's the whole thing about this guy.
	Well, that really didn't give me much info.
	I could have done a better read.
	Yeah, you could have.
	But there's a word missing at the end of it.
	Is that your printer that messed that up?
	Yeah.
	That sucks.
	And it's very annoying because it might be an important word, you know.
	Sorry.
	I'm sorry for you.
	I know, it's miserable.
	I found something that came in the email this morning.
	Can we switch to something?
	Yeah, no, I got no more CIA stuff, that's for sure.
	This is under Agenda 21, climate change stuff.
	And this guy, Tom Nelson...
	A lot of people are now looking at the data, the numbers that have been manipulated and have been admittedly manipulated by NASA, NOAA, that's N-O-A-A, in order to compensate for how records used to be kept and temperature measurements were made.
	And, of course, they're all ratcheted up in favor of the global warming, which is now climate change.
	But here's one that comes from the actual...
	NOAA website and documentation.
	And they have this report.
	So you have the NOAA Global Analysis Annual 2014.
	And the links are still in there.
	Of course, I've saved them offline.
	And it's all in the show notes.
	697.noagendanotes.com So from 2014, the average temperature for the year 2014 was 0.69 degrees Celsius, 1.24 Fahrenheit, above the 20th century average of 57.0 degrees Fahrenheit, i.e., 58.24 degrees Fahrenheit, beating the previous record warmth of 2010 and 2005.
	There's been a lot of discrepancy about This particular year that the president also mentioned in his State of the Union.
	So this is from NOAA. They say 58.24 degrees average temperature beat out 2010-2005 as the warmest on record.
	And this guy Tom Nelson, when looking back through some of the other Reports, annual reports.
	I want to mention, you talked about this already.
	I don't think so.
	Yes.
	Not this particular one.
	No, I'm saying you talked about this anomaly before with all the numbers because you had a beef with your lawyer friend.
	Right.
	You did a big segment on the show about how this number was created.
	Right.
	But this is something new.
	I didn't have this actual data point.
	Okay.
	What we talked about on the show is that both NOAA and NASA said there was about a 38% chance they were right.
	Right.
	They were gambling.
	They were gambling on this.
	Well, they gambled wrong because if they'd only looked at their own annual report from 1997...
	They would see, and it's still on the web, 1997.
	So remember, 2014, warmest on record, 58.24 degrees Fahrenheit average.
	We got that?
	58.24 average.
	58.24.
	1997, this is Noah's report, the global average temperature was 62.45 degrees Fahrenheit.
	What?
	It's right there!
	So we're having global cooling, just like we said.
	Exactly.
	That's funnier than the other one.
	I know.
	And they didn't mention 97 in the 2014 report.
	They say, look at 2010, 2005.
	So 97's average was 62.45.
	How can under any circumstance, even if true, 58.27 be the hottest year on record?
	Ah, it's no drama Obama, baby.
	Magic.
	Everyone should go and read Cliff Mass's weather blog.
	Now, Cliff Mass is a weather blogger and he's a climatologist or a meteorologist, I guess.
	And he's a very long-established weather blog.
	It's under Cliff Mass, C-L-I-F-F, Mass, all one word, dot blogspot.com.
	And he has a, not this most recent post, but the post before that, he has a scathing deconstruction of the global warming thing.
	He's one of the many weathermen, many of whom won't come out of the closet and say anything, you know, the guy who started the Weather Channel.
	Yes, yeah.
	But he's just an old kook now, so it doesn't count.
	And the guy who invented the global warming thing himself, another old kook who died recently, denounced it after he realized it was bogus.
	And all these things, of course, nobody pays any attention to that.
	They rather listen to the scientific proofs offered by the real famous physicist, climatologist Bill Maher, on Friday nights on HBO because he's the expert on the topic and he keeps talking about it.
	Anyway, so Mass has got some really good stuff here and he's one of the few guys who apparently can't be shouted down because when he does public events, he just...
	Buries the critics.
	And you won't see him in front of Congress anytime soon, especially in front of White House of Rhode Island.
	I had dinner last night with Lori and Mark, Lori Frick, the artist.
	Oh, yeah.
	And we were just talking, you know, shooting the show.
	Well, I had a lot to discuss, but...
	And we're talking about how if you say, well, you know, the flu shot, I'm not going to take it.
	If you listen to NPR, their style guide changes quite a lot, then if you say, I don't want the flu shot, you are against science.
	It's true.
	And, you know, because you're against science.
	And then this little article popped up, and I think, how can people...
	This is in the Nature Journal.
	So if we're so certain, and science is settled, and we know everything, and then you see the headline, oh, new findings push back scientists' understanding of when life on Earth was widespread.
	More than three billion years ago, Earth was a hostile, volatile place.
	Its air oxygen...
	It's air oxygenless and its climate unpredictable, and yet life thrived, according to a study published in Nature.
	It's analyzed 52 ancient rock samples and found that organisms capable of pulling nitrogen from the atmosphere and converting it into usable form first appeared around 3.2 billion years ago.
	So this is going to upset science, which I thought science is settled.
	It's done.
	It's in.
	But it's okay to backpedal on a billion or so years?
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, no, this is the latest thing going on.
	Now there's some interesting debates coming up, because National Geographic ran a big piece.
	You can start playing this clip, and you can kill it when you feel like it's a very long clip.
	I put it in as an archive clip.
	But play, it's called The Science is In, with Pew versus National Geographic.
	Many, the debate over what is true and what is believable extends far and wide.
	According to the Pew Research Center, 86% of scientists think childhood vaccines should be required, but just 68% of U.S. adults agree.
	On another hot-button issue, climate change, the gulf is even wider.
	Hold on a sec.
	Can we stop at vaccines for a moment, then?
	Sure.
	I received the draft report from the Health and Human Services for the forthcoming National Adult Immunization Plan, which is scare you.
	Adult immunization?
	Mm-hmm.
	For what?
	From the executive summary.
	No, I mean, what are we going to get?
	That's my lead into, from the executive summary, semicolon, the National Vaccine Advisory Committee and numerous stakeholder groups have emphasized the need for focused attention on adult vaccines and vaccination.
	The National Adult Immunization Plan, outlined here, results from the recognition that progress has been slow and there is a need for a National Adult Immunization Strategic Plan.
	This is about 60 pages, but here's what it is.
	Despite the widespread availability of safe and effective vaccines, adult vaccination rates remain low in the United States and far below Healthy People 2020 targets.
	Didn't know we had that.
	Vaccine-preventable diseases take a heavy toll on adults age 18 years and older.
	The health and productivity costs of influenza alone, when it works, are estimated to be as high as $87 billion per year.
	Well, maybe if they make a vaccine that works, I take it.
	So the CDC and Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, ACIP, currently recommends 13 different vaccines for adults age 18 and older to prevent...
	You're ahead of me.
	To prevent a host of diseases.
	And I will tell you what they are.
	Although you can pretty much guess.
	Here we go.
	The adult vaccine schedule, first published in 2002, now includes vaccines that are universally recommended, e.g.
	influenza, those that are recommended for certain age groups, human papillomavirus, HPV, and those that are targeted to individuals with specific risk factors, hepatitis A and B. The adult schedule also includes ketchup vaccines, not smushed tomatoes, but ketchup, For those adults who never initiated or did not complete a multi-dose series when vaccination was first recommended during childhood.
	Catch-up vaccines include measles, mumps, rubella, varicella, which are routinely recommended for administration during childhood.
	It seems like this is going to have some effect.
	Yeah, they're just trying to sell more vaccines on behalf of the drug companies.
	This is bullcrap.
	Yes, it's correct.
	Am I back to the climate change science?
	Just a little...
	Well, wait a minute before you go on.
	So, were you talking about the doctors being killed?
	I guess you probably didn't click on that link that's in the newsletter.
	No, I did not.
	Well, you should go do that now.
	I didn't want to ruin it.
	I'd do a surprise.
	Well, you've got the newsletter like everyone else, and there's a link on there.
	You click on it.
	It's a guy who was documenting all these mysterious deaths of all these doctors by stabbings in the neck.
	They can't find the killers.
	There's like a whole slew of dead doctors and mostly AIDS researchers.
	And the woman who invented the papillomavirus vaccine was one of them.
	She's been murdered.
	Oh, really?
	Yes.
	Huh.
	Yes.
	Well, that's second half of show material, man.
	No, it's not.
	I don't think it's that nutty.
	All right, let's get back to this clip.
	87% of scientists believe climate change is caused by human activity.
	Wait, did she say 87%?
	Yeah, I don't know where this number was derived.
	It's 97.
	No, 97 agree.
	It's a different number, and this is a number that Pew developed somehow.
	86% of scientists think childhood vaccines should be required.
	But just 68% of U.S. adults agree.
	On another hot-button issue, climate change, the gulf is even wider.
	87% of scientists believe climate change is caused by human activity.
	That's supposed to be 97.
	I'm sorry, I don't know what...
	No, no, no, no.
	This is a different derivation.
	Only half of adults agree.
	The biggest gap in the Pew survey?
	The safety of genetically modified foods.
	88% of scientists say they're okay to eat, but only 37% of adults surveyed buy into that.
	No matter what the scientists say, the disconnect extends to other issues as well, including evolution and the value of using animals in research.
	National Geographic Magazine's March cover story tackles those issues.
	We're joined by its author, Joel Achenbach, a writer for The Washington Post, and Carrie Funk, the Associate Director of Research at the Pew Research Center, came up with some of those interesting numbers we just saw.
	Joel, why is nothing settled?
	Everything is contested now.
	I think one of the differences today is just the Internet.
	It has changed the whole information universe.
	It's democratized, small d, information out there.
	There are fewer sort of gatekeepers of knowledge.
	Instead, people go out and seek information, and they often find what they're looking for that reinforces their belief.
	The Internet, you know, it doesn't facilitate Yeah, the guy's a reporter.
	Stop it for a second.
	They're going to switch to the woman from Pew.
	She has a couple of things that are interesting, but I'm going to do a quiz before you play that part, which is coming.
	And then you can stop this thing.
	I just wanted to save this whole interview.
	It was quite interesting.
	But it's too long.
	So in the case of vaccines, the people who are resistant to getting all shot up, are they young, millennial-like people?
	Are they middle-aged people like you?
	Or are they oldsters?
	The people who are resistant?
	They're saying, no, no, no, you don't need these vaccines.
	Screw vaccines.
	Young, middle-aged, old.
	Okay.
	Answer to that, now you're going to have to listen to it, because I'm going to tell you.
	Young.
	Really?
	The youngest.
	But this goes against everything they've been telling us.
	You're talking, you're reaching to the choir.
	Alright.
	So that turns out, now in the case of...
	You should clip that stuff out.
	It's too long.
	There's still seven minutes on this thing.
	Yeah, no, you know, this is the next thing that's coming up where she says, I just tell you.
	They don't say anything about the climate change, but they do, she does make an assertion about, is it younger, middle-aged, or older that are concerned about genetic engineering?
	Younger, middle-aged, or older.
	Wrong again.
	With the genetic engineering, apparently there's no group.
	Everybody.
	Everybody.
	That's why we should continue to have it.
	Less than ten minutes to go.
	No, it's not less than ten.
	It's bull.
	I'd like to, if you're done with this...
	Yeah, I got the point I wanted to make.
	I'm going to put the whole thing in the show notes, the whole clip, so people can listen to this.
	Yeah, put the whole clip in it so people can listen.
	It's very good.
	So there was a big...
	The political editor of The Telegraph resigned in the UK, and the reason was, he said, we barely report on HSBC being crooks.
	By the way, our director of the FBI was a director there in 2012.
	Yeah.
	Amidst some of these scandalous goings-on.
	You know, he's got experience.
	And the reason why, according to...
	What's the guy's name again?
	Give him some props.
	Comey.
	No.
	I'm talking about the guy who resigned from...
	Telegraph?
	From the Telegraph, yeah.
	I don't know.
	He was the chief political commentator, and what's his name?
	Oh, it's important because this guy is, you know, he's going to never get a job again.
	So we might as well give him some props.
	Peter Osborne.
	Oh, right.
	Not Osborne.
	Oborn.
	Oborn.
	Yeah, whatever.
	Peter Oborn.
	Peter O. And the BBC... They have their little segment here on, I think, Radio 4, and they explained what is going on.
	How could it be that the Telegraph, which is widely circulated, reported so summarily, so narrowly on HSBC, yet took a million years The basic issue is almost every newspaper around the world is seeing a big decline in print circulation.
	The Telegraph has seen its circulation fall from around about a million ten years ago to under half a million now.
	If people are not paying for news, someone has got to pay for newsrooms.
	And the only way, if you're going to do it online, that seems to work at the moment, paywalls are just about working with some subscriptions for some newspapers, but most of them, they're having to turn to companies.
	They're having to turn to advertising.
	And these are creating all sorts of new pressures, new forms of advertising that looks a bit like news stories.
	You're never quite sure exactly what you've clicked on.
	What's the term you told me just before the programme?
	Native advertising.
	Native advertising.
	You're never quite sure what it is you've clicked on.
	Is it selling you something or is it telling you something absolutely fascinating?
	Where's it come from?
	These whole areas are blurring boundaries.
	And the issue here, this is altogether different, but The Telegraph strongly denies that this has actually leaked through to their main news pages.
	Oh, the shock.
	the horror!
	Do you think it's going on everywhere, John?
	The New York Times does it.
	Mm-hmm.
	This is important for you to realize that now they can't even avoid telling everybody that it's really going on, and it's exactly why our model works differently and better.
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	697.
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	You've had a real issue with...
	It's because it's not at the top of the spreadsheet anymore.
	I know, but all you have to do is ask Eric to put it there.
	I don't know that he can.
	I think this is the...
	He hasn't really changed what he does.
	I think it's just some function that's...
	I don't know.
	Did you upgrade Office or something?
	I don't know.
	You never know with these damn machines.
	Well...
	And then there are a number of people who did the 700 pennies.
	Yeah.
	That's nice.
	Yes.
	I recommend that for newbies, newcomers, people who have got a guilty conscience.
	We had this one guy earlier.
	He says, oh, I feel bad because I've never donated, so here's $200.
	Yeah.
	You can donate $7, like now, today, if you've never donated before, and then you don't have to say that.
	You can say, I've donated before!
	You could be happy about it.
	Instead of apologetic.
	Okay, short list.
	And we have no nightings today?
	No, it doesn't look like it.
	Let me give everybody karma then.
	Thank you all so much for your support of the program.
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	Oh yeah, good old Ancilatilla, the model.
	Yes, the model.
	Well, she's more than that.
	I've met her and she's in Berlin now.
	And she's trying to fight the New World Order in her own way.
	Oh, good.
	Now, she was going to do a donation for a birthday shout-out for her boyfriend, who is not in Berlin.
	It's not that far from where he is.
	But something went wrong, and so she said, Oh, man, can you do the birthday?
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	But it's his birthday, so I want to make sure that...
	Well, hold on.
	You'll find out who he is.
	So I've been listening to the best podcast in the universe for almost a year now.
	I'm enjoying Adam's research and organizations.
	John's ancient wisdoms very much.
	The Chinese one.
	I think it's a compliment.
	I don't know.
	I'm not so sure.
	Your ancient wisdoms.
	Ever since I hit my boyfriend in the mouth, he's been hooked.
	He's more into the entertainment part of the show than I am.
	Sometimes you two remind me of Beavis and Butthead.
	Okay, going quite far.
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	I see we can keep relationships going.
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	Do you remember which jingle he produced?
	Because I do.
	I actually had to ask, but...
	You asked, and...
	Here's the one.
	Yeah, I remember.
	There's a need for a rescue mission.
	When the world is threatened, the world needs help.
	It calls on America.
	And that's the story, which is a good jingle.
	One of our best.
	So, Paul, thank you very much.
	And still, I hope to remain your beperked monarchy, happily ever after.
	I'm not quite sure what that means, but I'm sure it's code.
	And so we remind everybody...
	What does it translate to?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I'll have to think about it.
	She said to me, not to read it, that you should be reading that word.
	I'm not getting it.
	It means a limited market.
	Indeed.
	Something I'm not understanding.
	Anyway.
	Get it amongst themselves.
	Help us out for the Sunday show, people.
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	And now it's a birthday.
	So adding to the list, Kimberly Davis says happy birthday to her husband, Rev Al-Nanimous, turning the big 5-0 tomorrow.
	And Christina Caldwell, magic number 33.
	Also celebrating tomorrow, February 20th.
	Happy birthday from all your friends here at the best podcast in the universe.
	It's your birthday, yeah!
	And then, as I said, no nightings, no nothing.
	Meh.
	Meh.
	All right, well, that was that.
	Yeah.
	I think you made your point with the advertising model.
	I got a couple little shorties here we can maybe plow through.
	All right.
	That's a long one you want to do.
	I love plowing through shorties.
	Shorties are good.
	CRE bug in UCLA? What is that?
	CRE? What's CRE? May have been transmitted despite sterilization when the same equipment was used on different patients.
	The bug is known as CRE and it is drug resistant.
	UCLA is notifying patients and offering them free at-home tests.
	C-R-E. It's some crazy bacteria that's resistant to everything.
	And it's not MRSA. It's a different one.
	And it's, again, in hospitals because nobody wants to do the work they're supposed to do and use an autoclave to clean off these animals from the equipment.
	This is apparently something that they shoved some probe down your throat.
	And they're just not cleaning it?
	Yeah.
	What it looks like.
	That's disgusting.
	And of course now everybody's getting, you know, that just kills you by the way.
	Oh, okay.
	That's not good.
	Check it out.
	Just C-R-E-U-C-L-A. Here's another one.
	Those poor people in Haiti.
	This is the kind of thing that goes up.
	This is my favorite topic.
	How long has it been?
	Are we going on four years or three?
	The coup with Clinton holding on to the billions and billions?
	Yeah, well, when these guys are all...
	We just need cash.
	I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
	Just send your cash.
	Yeah, the cash is gone.
	Yeah, well, no, it's not gone.
	It's been well spent on the hookers.
	In Haiti, the final day of carnival celebrations was canceled after an accident in a float killed 16 people and injured 78 others.
	A singer on a parade float ran into electrical wires in the early morning hours, setting off a stampede by bystanders.
	Many of those killed were trampled to death.
	Nice!
	Yeah, that's your Haiti news.
	Now, my favorite story, Shorty, is this one, which is the banks being robbed story.
	Hackers have stolen up to a billion dollars from banks around the world in a series of electronic attacks since 2013.
	The Russian firm Kaspersky Lab presented that finding at a security conference in Cancun, Mexico today.
	It found the hacking ring has infiltrated more than 100 banks in 30 countries.
	They used different methods to break in and cap their stealing to $10 million before moving on to another bank.
	At least they're smart.
	There was a bank robbery in Austin the other day.
	By Kaspersky?
	No.
	The guy walked into the bank and said, I got a gun, give me the money.
	Yeah?
	And he didn't have a gun, and he didn't get the money.
	Arrested him.
	Moron.
	Computer.
	He's a moron.
	Kaspersky, of course...
	I came out and have now mentioned that all this pre-installed malware on hard drives has helped the National Security Agency spy on people for many, many years now.
	Any comment on that?
	I have no comment on it.
	Is there any way of eliminating the spyware that's on the hard disks?
	I don't know.
	How come somebody hasn't caught this sooner?
	How can it go on for years and years if all these antivirus companies, Kaspersky included, are so good at what they do?
	I don't know.
	I have to say, can I interrupt your shorty list here and we can move into a topic or do you need to do more?
	I need to stay on this actually.
	My thinking stemmed actually from this announcement that IBM, GE, and who else?
	Hortonworks, Pivotal, Verizon, they're now coming together with some common standards.
	Actually, we should just call this what it is.
	Where are we?
	What is it?
	Welcome to your tech news, everybody.
	This is the Hadoop Data Alliance.
	They did a little video on it, too, about Hadoop.
	Now all these big companies with big data have decided they're going to have standardization for Hadoop so that we can all use this Hadoop for great data mining, big data.
	It's going to be a great world with Hadoop.
	So what exactly is Hadoop?
	If it were in the dictionary...
	It will be defined as open source software that enables large-scale data processing across a cluster of commodity servers.
	It's designed to scale up to thousands of servers and many, many petabytes of data with a very high degree of fault tolerance.
	But the real scoop about Hadoop is what you can do with all that data.
	It's ceremoniously ushering in a new era of extracting useful information out of vast amounts of diverse data.
	It's giving you the tools to scale mountains of data and the flexibility to handle any data type.
	Any data type.
	So now you can see Hadoop, when done right, can have an impact across your entire enterprise.
	Oh yeah.
	And that's the scoop with Hadoop.
	No, that's the poop.
	Hadoop is poop.
	I have mentioned that I'm trying to go all in as much as possible.
	I'm not worried anymore, John, really.
	All this big data, and I know we've discussed it on the show, but truly, truly, truly, it's a lie.
	None of it is not coming to fruition.
	You can have your big data, you can sift and do stuff, but you have no idea how my brain works.
	You are never going to give me the right ad at the right time for the relevant product.
	The refrigerator's never gonna really know what I need.
	It's all not true.
	It's a big, money-sucking scam.
	A huge scam.
	Wow.
	Those are fighting words.
	Now, along with this comes, I believe, you know, when you look at tech shows, John, tech shows these days are pretty much a bunch of people sitting around saying, well, if I was running Apple, here's what I'd do.
	I'd do this.
	Well, you know what HTC should do?
	Yeah, Google should be doing this.
	That's all that these tech shows are.
	It's a bunch of jabronis, second-guessing CEOs.
	My turn.
	I have been testing three different products.
	One is OK Google.
	Is there any other name?
	Google Now is what it's called, right?
	Google Now.
	I've been testing it on...
	It's not a complete test because I don't use Gmail, and it kind of falls apart if you don't use Gmail.
	OK Google.
	If you say, OK Google, let's set off a bunch of phones.
	Probably.
	OK Google.
	And it's interesting because it's voice recognition because you're asking your device something.
	But really what Google does more of is they connect your personal data and give you marginally interesting information.
	I know you like it a lot.
	You've used Google now.
	And it says, well, you should leave earlier.
	So it looks at your calendar and you should leave earlier because the traffic is bad on your route, etc.
	What else?
	What else?
	The only reason I like it, you're talking about the thing that shows up on the phone with a bunch of cards.
	Yeah, that thing.
	It's because it gives me the sports scores.
	Okay, great.
	So that's marginally important.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	It's not important at all.
	Okay, great.
	It's just kind of cool.
	I get the sports scores.
	Great.
	Oh, look, they lost!
	Right.
	Then we have Apple's Siri.
	Siri, I'll say this about, not Siri specifically, but about Apple's speech recognition technology, at least with my voice, outstanding.
	At least at home, I do not type on my iPhone.
	I say it, it's 99% accurate, really, really good.
	When I'm on my Android phone and I need to send a quick note to somebody on email, and I use the little microphone, if I'm in a closed car, it's very accurate.
	Google is good, because I've tried it with Google as well.
	They may be better at international languages.
	Apple's iOS recognition, and I've tried Dutch as well.
	Really outstanding.
	Now, having Siri do things for you, it's extremely limited.
	It really doesn't do a lot.
	And this is where I think that Amazon's Echo makes Siri look like the Newton.
	Okay, stop.
	So with any of these things, can I say...
	Call my wife, tell her I'm going to be 15 minutes late, and not to buy any milk because I'll be picking it up on the way home.
	No, I don't think we're going to have that for decades.
	That is not that complicated.
	Well, I've really done some work, and I've had a lot of dudes named Ben help me out.
	First of all, this Amazon Echo thing is not sending packets continuously.
	They've done a lot of tracking and tracing of the traffic that goes out.
	Of course, what it's really sending is not all known because it's encrypted.
	But what Amazon has, and this is what's great, they have segmented their speech recognition, refined it, if you will, and narrowed it into categories of things that you do.
	Therefore, it gives the illusion of real artificial intelligence.
	And the things that, what is really important, what do people do the most?
	We're consumers.
	We're buying things.
	And it is really, it's so fucking good.
	But it segmented it out, so it has a vast array of options it understands when you're asking it to do something in a category like shopping, a category like anything that Amazon does, you know, music.
	And then, you know, basic things like weather.
	But it is so superior, you can talk to it like a human being in those categories, and it really blows you away.
	It's trying to interpret it.
	It can't do that much.
	It can't interpret what you want because you want to be very, very broad.
	And Apple really doesn't have the offering, you see.
	Apple can do your calendar, a couple of things, but not the true consumerism.
	And when I looked at these two technologies, because Apple's speech recognition is so damn good, And you have Amazon really understanding what people want and having the back end.
	Look, most of the freaking world runs on Amazon.
	Apple famously has screwed up their cloud.
	I would say, if I was Tim Cook, first I'd change my name to Tom Collins because it's so much cooler sounding.
	I would buy Amazon.
	And I've looked at the numbers.
	They have enough cash.
	They could...
	How much cash do they have?
	About $183 billion.
	No, they don't.
	Oh, that's the...
	No, they use that cash for a lot of buyback thing, all that stuff that...
	They don't really have, as far as I can tell, only $33 billion in cash.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, then my theory goes to shit.
	They'd have to write a bunch of stuff.
	No, no, no, it's not true.
	Is my theory still good?
	Yes, because the stock being at what's essentially $700, their enterprise value market cap is around $700 billion, which is the highest of all companies.
	They can leverage that to buy anybody.
	I would say...
	So you do a cash stock deal.
	Yeah, cash stock.
	If I wanted to make the move...
	That would be the one.
	I said before, if this Echo thing had an Apple logo on it, people would be losing their shit.
	It's that good.
	But Apple doesn't have the offering.
	They don't have the shopping.
	They don't have the real consumer part.
	And that's all that Amazon is, but they have a shitty brand.
	Bezos laughs like a maniac.
	They make no money, really.
	They can't make profit.
	Because they're just growing on this long curve, which I think is the right way to go.
	Apple could buy them, man, and that would blow everything and everybody out of the water once and for all and forever.
	I guarantee that would be stopped by the government.
	Oh.
	Pesky government.
	Because it's what?
	It's just too big of a deal.
	Well, you can't just say it's too big of a deal and stop it.
	No, no.
	They'd be monopolizing more than they were already monopolizing.
	It would not work.
	The government would not put up with it.
	There'd have to be a lot more bribes going on than there's so far.
	Nobody's paying enough.
	Amazon's selling for $370,000.
	Let me take a look at what the market cap is.
	Amazon's market cap is like $400 billion?
	$380,000 maybe?
	Let me click.
	I'm glad you at least...
	Don't laugh me out of the tech segment right away.
	Apple could do whatever they want, literally.
	And I mean that literally.
	They can go by anybody they want to.
	And of course, I'm just trying to get to the numbers here.
	The market cap for Amazon is actually $175.
	I mean, how else can Apple grow other than just them?
	They could pick them up pretty easily.
	I mean, what would it be?
	It would be a merger.
	It wouldn't be an acquisition.
	There's no way they could actually do it as an acquisition.
	It would be too costly.
	Well, I think.
	I just wrote a column in PC Magazine.
	Mocked for saying all the time.
	Claiming that Apple is actually better.
	And you're right.
	What could they do to keep growing?
	I don't think Amazon is the right way.
	It doesn't make sense.
	The company is not that kind of a company.
	I don't think they could do merchandising.
	I think that they're going to buy a Chrysler Corporation.
	They just need the back end?
	They buy what?
	Chrysler Corporation.
	Oh, you're talking about the cars.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, well, the reason they would...
	Chrysler's cheaper than Amazon, curiously.
	Actually, it does make money, or can.
	And it wouldn't cost Apple that much.
	And Apple can finally do something with all these designers they have in-house.
	They have the best design team in the world.
	And they could establish themselves as a car or have a car company that they can then go into the future with, with the driverless and all the rest.
	But they could build some cars that people would buy because it would be gorgeous.
	On that note, this is going to irk so many people.
	Tesla owners, of course, are all-in.
	And I would say, what do you think the ratio is of Tesla owners to people who hate the Koch brothers?
	I would say it's probably close to one to one.
	Charles and David Koch have joined forces with Tesla.
	One of ten signatories in a letter sent to governors and legislators urging support to support Tesla's direct sales model.
	Yes, well, you know, those guys are famous libertarians.
	I know, I know!
	Koch brothers!
	I don't want to admit it.
	I mean, they're anti-war, anti-Vietnam War, they're anti-war generally.
	They have all these earmarks, and they have been, I think, demeaned, or just smeared by the left.
	Yeah.
	The lefties over, and I'm absolutely not sure why.
	Well, I think it's funny now.
	Everyone who's at Tesla, I say, oh, the Koch brothers are in on that deal, aren't they?
	Yeah.
	And I'll play that jingle for you.
	Coke Brothers!
	The only good phone's a landline, and the phone should be made out of Bakelite.
	There you go.
	And that concludes our tech segment.
	Well, since you bring the Coke Brothers up, Let's go to, they're finally, only seeing this report so far on Al Jazeera because, again, advertising is preventing it from running, especially on PBS, which is sponsored by Burlington Northern Santa Fe, owned by Buffett and Gates.
	Okay, so we had another tanker crash.
	And can I just say, how come when a tanker crashes with all this oil train, why is no one talking about the horrible, horrible aspect of the environment that is being ruined like they do with the pipelines?
	Well, they do on Al Jazeera.
	Oh!
	Because Al Jazeera is not bought and paid for by Burlington Northern.
	No, it's paid for by the Qataris.
	Right.
	They can do reports like this.
	Let's start the report off.
	This is a little lengthy, but it's in pieces.
	There's a couple of things that we definitely have to hear about.
	I didn't know some of this myself.
	Tanker Report, Part 1.
	Thanks for joining us.
	I'm Joey Chen.
	We begin with a threat passing through many of our own backyards, the downside of North America's oil boom.
	Two West Virginia towns were evacuated earlier this week and a water treatment plant shut down after the latest derailment and explosion of tankers carrying tons of crude oil from the Bakken fields of North Dakota.
	It is a valuable cargo and an important resource.
	But as America Tonight's Sheila McVicker found in her investigation, it also delivers growing evidence of a new danger on the rails.
	Massive explosions rocked the scene of Monday's train derailment in Fayette County, West Virginia.
	I've never seen anything like this in my life, guys.
	Where at least 15 tankers of a 109-car oil train caught fire after jumping the tracks during a snowstorm.
	Oh, my God.
	The house was on fire.
	The train derailed over the hillside.
	The force of the explosion so near to the communities of Montgomery and Mount Carbon with their thousands of inhabitants is again raising serious questions about the safety of the tens of thousands of trains that are transporting an increasing volume of crude oil across the country.
	The West Virginia train was carrying Bakken crude from North Dakota, the same kind of crude that blew up in another derailment that had a much more tragic outcome.
	Which was the one in Canada.
	Right.
	Which was also Bakken crude.
	That's right.
	So you get into this and they really do a good report here.
	It's a little longer than I'd like because, you know, the networking is going to cut it down a little bit.
	But they they get into it.
	It turns out to be a number of factors going on here.
	Besides the fact that Buffett, you know, and the boys are kind of keeping this quiet that they're they're running this crude that should not be in these tankers.
	And I didn't realize this myself.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	It's not supposed to be in the tankers.
	It shouldn't be.
	Because?
	Because, well, let's play, I think it comes up in, well, let's jump to clip For, and this is the reason.
	We have accumulated data from Castleton, North Dakota, from Ellisville, Alabama, Lachmagantic, and now Lynchburg.
	Scott Smith, chief scientist at Water Defense, traveled to North Dakota in an attempt to figure out why Bakken crude is so volatile.
	Tell me a little bit about the properties of this oil that make it different from other crudes.
	What makes Bakken different is the clear, colorless, volatiles, gases that ignite easily and that explode.
	And with a low flashpoint of just 73 degrees, you get explosions like the one that occurred this week in West Virginia and in Castleton, North Dakota in December of 2013.
	Crude oil is not supposed to explode, and the oil industry has repeatedly insisted Bakken is no different from similar types of crude.
	But other independent studies support Smith's findings.
	The industry in North Dakota has said that the Bakken crude is what it calls within norm.
	That it's no more, it alleges, volatile or flammable than any other crude oil.
	What do you think of that?
	That's just not the case from the analysis that we've done.
	Huh.
	Okay.
	Now, you might as well play clip six, and I want to say something, or what is it, that's volatility you played, right?
	Yeah.
	Play Clip 5, which is a gasoline product.
	And let me just say before you play it that having worked at an oil refinery and also inspected them for the government, I was always under the impression that those, the cold pipelines on wheels, which have gone by the Bay Area for, I don't know, since I was a kid.
	They're always floating around.
	They go up the standard road.
	I was always under the impression that the crude oil in those tankers was not volatile.
	And if the tanker overturned or something, the crude would leak all over the place and make a huge mess.
	But it wouldn't blow up when those tankers blew up in Canada and took out a bunch of people.
	I was stunned by then.
	I didn't comment on it.
	I don't believe me.
	Well, we didn't realize what it was.
	But I didn't realize these are tankers full of propane.
	And play this clip 5, which brings this issue a little closer to reality.
	Train traffic in Oregon.
	The analysis that we did of oil that's moving through this state shows that it is far more volatile than gasoline that you put in your car, than any oil that moves through the country's pipeline system.
	What was different?
	A lot of propane, a lot of butane, a lot of methane and ethane.
	They're natural gas, basically.
	In fact, Davis found that Bakken crude had six times more propane than comparable crude, making it more flammable and causing more pressure to build up during transport.
	In the Transportation Safety Board of Canada's analysis of the Bakken crude at Lac-Mégantic said the crude oil had a volatility comparable to that of a gasoline product.
	They could take it out.
	Wow.
	This is good stuff, John.
	Yeah, and of course, where does it show up?
	It doesn't show up in any mainstream media because mainstream media is Buffett.
	All right, so let's get the last part.
	There's actually more to it, and I'll explain after this last clip, which is the other element here.
	And by the way, you put this stuff into one of these black tankers and then drive it through some area where there's a sun hitting it, and it's filled with gas, you know, literal gas.
	I mean, ethane and propane and butane.
	What could possibly go wrong?
	What could go wrong?
	The kicker to the whole thing is this clip.
	A six?
	Yeah.
	What worries her most is the known vulnerability of the tankers, many of them non-pressurized, thin-skinned DOT-111s that are being used to transport much of the crew.
	How would you characterize the DOT-111?
	You know, I referred to it once as the Ford Pinto of rail cars.
	And I use that analogy because when it was involved in an accident, there were many times that it just burst into flame and exploded and people died needlessly.
	Yet tens of thousands of these older and weaker cars, never designed to carry flammable material, are being pressed into service to carry the bulk of Bakken crude.
	Wow.
	Slow clap.
	You're welcome.
	Now, a couple of things.
	One, they've designed another tanker, which is very similar to the DOT 111 that was involved in the West Virginia crash, and it's still a piece of crap.
	The Canadians have banned these tankers, so Bill Gates' boys and his rail investments, they have to buy new tanks.
	They've got to get the pressure right, the ones that can handle the gaseous substances.
	There are tanks that float around that can carry natural gas, which is what these things have to be.
	This is a misuse of the technology because the companies that are moving this oil around are cheap bastards.
	They don't give a shit.
	They should be sued.
	Now, the other thing is these reports start showing up as a – I think the only countermeasure that the public relations companies can make for the Keystone and other pipeline businesses is to run these reports.
	But the mainstream media won't pick them up because they've already sold out.
	So they have to show up on Al Jazeera, which is absolutely pathetic.
	And Al Jazeera, of course, they would prefer that you use Qatari gas anyway.
	Yes, well, there's that.
	Yeah, of course.
	But this whole thing with these tankers is just completely out of control, and we're going to see more of this.
	And the mainstream media, the ABC, CBS, even Democracy Now!, these people are going to have to wake up.
	Well, what is it?
	Someday.
	And PBS, I believe, will never report on it.
	They, with the wreck in West Virginia, they just, it was a short segment, well, a train wrecked and blew up.
	Right, right, right.
	And then they go to the next story because PBS is bought and sold by BNSF.
	It's so obvious in this case.
	You didn't hear any of this information.
	You can watch PBS all you want.
	You'll never hear any of this about the Bakken truth.
	Yeah, and they do a lot of – so PBS, our public television here in the United States, which do have advertising.
	A real – they're not – I don't think they – do they have to adhere to the same – yes, they do.
	The same rules as NPR.
	There's some differences.
	But they have the big corporate Archer Daniel Meadius Company, the Boeing Corporation, all these big companies who fund them, including Burlington Northern.
	And what's the other one?
	C&I probably is not sponsoring them.
	I don't think they do, but it doesn't matter.
	One railroad, they're all in the same game.
	Bank of America, so you don't hear any bad stories about them.
	Chevron is one of the big sponsors.
	You're not going to hear anything about them.
	Burlington North is one of the huge sponsors.
	They have almost a minute ad.
	They play the train, going through the field, kids playing, and all this stuff.
	But meanwhile, Koch Brothers!
	Right.
	Is there anything in these...
	You have two clips you skipped over.
	Well, you can play them.
	They were actually meaningful.
	Play clip two.
	Okay.
	We're shipping millions and millions of gallons daily over the tracks, going by people's homes, local neighborhoods, and people are sound asleep in their homes.
	These trains are rolling through at night.
	Nobody even realizes what's right next door to them, what could happen.
	The crude, the devastated Lac-Megon tick, and was loaded on the West Virginia train came from here.
	The Bakken oil fields of North Dakota, ground zero of the nation's domestic oil boom.
	Nice.
	By the way, that's a very kind of NPR, PBS-ish voice they've got going on there.
	That's McVicker.
	She's an old hack that's been around.
	I always thought she was the best of the foreign clothes.
	She pulls it off.
	I like her voice.
	Oh, no, she's been around.
	She was on ABC for years, and she was...
	She was dragged into Al Jazeera.
	She doesn't look like she's happy there, but she's a very professional investigative reporter.
	Less than 10 minutes to go, okay?
	Actually, let's just do one more clip.
	This is a great series.
	I love, this is a very good thing you put together here.
	Very strong, very strong.
	You can play three and we'll be out of here.
	A lack of pipeline infrastructure has spurred the railroads to create pipelines.
	Sorry?
	There's your kicker, the pipeline.
	Ah, yes.
	Hold on.
	Let me just rewind that.
	You're right.
	Hit it.
	A lack of pipeline infrastructure has spurred the railroads to create pipelines on rails.
	So-called oil unit trains with over a hundred tankers that can haul up to three million gallons of crude at a time.
	With the volume of oil moving over the nation's railways doubling every year, the United States has had some close calls.
	You know, all you could see was this huge ball of flame and, you know, there were calls laying everywhere.
	Last April, in the middle of a busy workday, a train carrying 105 tankers of North Dakota crude derailed near downtown Lynchburg, Virginia.
	Do you feel like your city dodged a bullet that day?
	Well, maybe we dodged a bomb.
	We got hit by the bullet.
	Yeah, I mean, I think we were very fortunate that the cars went the way they did rather than over the bank into the river.
	They had fallen the other way in this, you know, heavily populated restaurant right there.
	Yeah, we would have had a whole different issue.
	The near disaster in Lynchburg follows similar incidents in Alabama and North Dakota.
	Wow.
	Hey, good...
	Good series there, John.
	I like that.
	Yeah, you learn something.
	Stay away from the advertising.
	Right.
	I was disturbed by that whole story.
	Yeah, this is stuff that I did not know.
	And now it explains a lot and makes more sense to me because of the volatiles that are jammed in these stupid cars that shouldn't be in there.
	And then the industry denying it's in there.
	I'd like to see where that bullshit's coming from and who's bought and paid the guys who were spokespeople for that.
	Because if there's six times more propane, that is not normal.
	Hmm.
	Only...
	On this podcast.
	Only.
	Only.
	I tell you, it's only.
	All right, everybody.
	I am going to get some more decongestant in my body.
	Good.
	Yeah.
	Sound good, though.
	You always sound like a pro.
	Yeah, it's...
	You're all stuffed up and you still sound...
	It's all I have.
	It's all I have, really, John.
	It's all I have.
	It's all I got.
	All I can do.
	Because, you know, mentally unstable and all that.
	Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the Crackpot Condo.
	It's been a pleasure, everybody.
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