Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 6905.
This is no agenda.
Fighting the bugs in the heart of FEMA Region 2, live from New York City in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where, like every place else, it's Lincoln's birthday.
Take the day off.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
I thought the first version was better.
No, it was more...
Spontaneous.
More crummy, if that's what you mean by better.
Hey, is everybody vaccinated, ready to go?
I want to mention a couple of things before you go off on it.
What happened?
Who got vaccinated?
No, I'm just asking.
These days, you have to be vaccinated.
I want to make sure everybody's vaccinated, good to go.
It's money-making.
It's making money.
It's making money.
Well, of course.
Apparently, somewhere up in the Pacific Northwest, I got a note about this from Mimi.
That there's some...
People get the mumps shot and then they get the mumps the next day.
Well, we know this because they falsified the data for the efficacy rate.
Well, it doesn't mean you have to get the disease because you got the shot.
That's not good.
Well, you're shooting virus into you so you could imagine.
It's most attenuated or dead or something.
Whatever the case, I'm on the Comcast connection today.
Well, that's good because I'm on my iPhone connection today.
Yeah, that's kind of interesting.
You have to go through it.
I'm just going to want to test it.
If the Comcast thing falls apart, which I don't think it will, but it might.
What did they do?
Did they have to come out to your...
I can switch back easily, but finally a guy came out, Corey, who found the problem that I was having for the last two years.
Let me guess.
It was a physical wire problem outside.
Yes.
Squirrels.
Squirrels.
Really?
These fuckers are worse than ISIS. So the squirrel ate a hole in the...
You could just barely see, you know, luckily he didn't eat the middle, the copper in the middle, but he ate all the insulation off, the coax.
And this one guy who kept monitoring said, you've got signaling problems.
So, you know, reboot the modem.
Oh, yeah.
Reboot the modem.
It's your fault.
You stupid, stupid user, you.
Got something wrong.
Not only that, but the line was also kinked.
And then to top things off, the actual coax they were using was the wrong grade.
Oh, wow.
Wait, there's another one.
I just want to know, what is the wrong grade?
I think it's called RG59. It should be RG6. You should look up your coaxes because you may have the wrong grade.
Wow.
Because the old grade, which is the one that was coming in the house, is not suitable for high speed.
Even though this whole thing was wired from the get-go for high speed.
Anyway, so there was that.
And then there was another item besides that.
This was the only guy, this, Corey, is the only guy who actually did anything.
The other guy's coming in and they are, I don't know, you need a new modem.
You know what this is?
You once wrote an article how cable modems would never amount to anything.
And at the time, you were right.
But these guys didn't forget that, you see.
Well, maybe.
There was one more item, which was that the line was too hot.
And so you had to put a little, like a choke or some sort of little...
Because what actually happens is you can get a feedback loop, I think.
Yeah, so it was way over the voltage.
It was just too hot.
And so he had to attenuate it with his little screw-on thing.
Well, we have only one...
Not good, it seems.
We only have one thing for the squirrels.
Only one thing.
Bomb them.
We need to kill and bomb them.
Bomb them.
We need to kill them and bomb them again.
This is a new thing.
Yeah, isn't that good?
That was good.
I like these musical interludes.
Yeah, this is Instant Night Me who did that.
Yeah, people are pulling these clips out and they're putting them kind of into a...
Song format.
Song format, yes.
Chanson format, I would say.
Yeah.
Nice little chanson.
That's a good one.
Isn't it great?
I have an end of show clip, which is a whole song, which we'll have to put on as well.
So I'm in New York City.
And the reason why I'm on the iPhone, which I have to say, I'm pleasantly surprised with the results.
We'll see.
Knocking on wood.
And I am indeed in the fabulous Hotel Pennsylvania, which is in the heart of all the action.
And so you've got a free room.
Yeah.
It's not much better than the guy who's homeless in the lobby.
Except I have sheets.
A sheet.
A sheet.
You have a sheet.
Yes.
And this is...
Yeah, the Hotel Pennsylvania.
Okay.
And I had people from New York emailing me saying, really?
You lived in New York and you don't know about Hotel Pennsylvania?
No.
No, I really...
Of course I know where it is, but I've never been in there, here.
It's built in, what, 1915, I think.
Maybe a little bit later.
It's one of the oldest hotels left in New York.
In fact, the door, which has a round, strange kind of piece on it, it has a plaque that says, this original valet door was created and installed in 1919.
Nice.
Well, at least you're in a historical place.
It's got to be interesting.
But seriously, the springs actually go boing-oing when you turn around?
Oh, yeah.
And I have, I don't know, what is the smallest bed size you can imagine?
Is it a single?
Is that what you call it?
Yeah, a single.
I got that.
I got that one.
So my legs overlap the end of the bed by about my knees.
Okay.
And then the sheets are short, you know, so you can't pull the sheets up.
And then I open the window a little bit to get some fresh air and it's stuck.
Then it's only, I don't know, was it 30 degrees?
And Fahrenheit.
So it's freezing outside.
And so I had to now push a towel in where the window was.
Or where closed is this ridge.
Wait a minute.
You're telling me you cracked the window.
Cracked the window open.
I cannot get it closed.
I cannot get it closed.
Did you call room service?
Room service.
Oh, well, hold on a second.
Let me just call room service.
No, there's no room service.
Maintenance.
I come in.
I check in this hotel.
I'm a day late because my flight got canceled.
Because of the Snowmageddon.
That screwed up everything.
Because I wanted to do a meet-up.
I had theater tickets, which I had to dispose of and get new ones.
Everything was completely hosed.
And then JetBlue.
You think I was going to fly.
I flew JetBlue.
I booked the flight.
And I like to get even more space.
So you get a little extra leg room.
You pay, I don't know.
Depends.
I think $45.
And that's worth it for me.
Well, yeah, you're six foot six.
Yeah.
Are you sure I'm not seven foot?
And so I get a cancellation.
It's like, oh, you've been canceled.
You fly tomorrow.
Oh, well, thanks.
Gee, that's such a matter of fact kind of thing.
And Tuesday, actually Monday evening, I figured I'll just make sure everything's good.
You'd think that if you have canceled a flight, and you're going to put the people on the same flight number, the same departure time the next day, isn't that just like a copy-paste of everybody?
No, because the flight the next day has people that are booked on it too.
You have to overlay.
Right, true.
But I would feel I had some precedence because I booked to fly earlier.
No, I would see if I was booked on the second flight, I would think of myself as having precedent over you losers that came in from the other flight because you didn't book the right flight.
Right.
So you didn't get your leg, right?
Well, I did, but it wasn't on there.
It said, you know, change your seat.
It was like one of those bad JavaScript games where you click on the seat, and you click OK, and then it goes OK, and then it goes, oh, sorry, we had a problem.
You go back, and the seat you just clicked on is no longer available, so you check another one.
And then it says, OK, we're good, and oh, I'm sorry.
It sounds like it was a whack-a-mole.
And then they would call in, which took 35 minutes just to get someone on the phone waiting.
And the guy's like, oh, I can do this.
Oh, that's strange.
Are you on the website?
He says, yes.
Wait a minute, I'm calling you and you're on the website too?
What is that?
Don't you have some access to the computer?
Well, this is the little known gotcha of internet commerce.
I don't know, this began, this is amusing because when the early days, by that I mean like 15 years ago, and people said, oh, Don't give your credit card information on the internet.
Oh, I think that was longer ago.
I think the early days of the internet was...
Okay, 200 years ago.
Whenever it was, it was a long period of time where people were going, oh, it's better to call the 800 number.
And very few people realized, because I've been in this business, that by then, within just a few years, when you called the 800 number, they brought up the exact same website.
Same page.
And put your card number in the website by hand the way you would have.
Yeah, it was a little bizarre.
But we got it sorted out.
Then the hotel was also another, well, I'm not going to show up because my flight was canceled.
Oh, well, you have to make a new booking.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
It's a free room.
Yeah, but it had been prepaid and it was complicated because then if you don't show up, then they have the right to fine you or something.
But then the production couldn't actually...
Pennsylvania?
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
They should be giving you money for not showing up.
Yeah, you'll get one.
So I walk in like 6.30, quarter to 7 in the evening.
And all right, good to go.
Check in.
All right, here's your room.
I go up to the room.
I open it up.
And I see trash and sandals.
I'm like, hello?
The room wasn't clean, but the sandals threw me off.
I'm like, maybe someone's dead in here.
And it was very, very small.
Okay, go back down.
Oh, I'm sorry about that.
I got another ribbed.
Anyway, so I'm in.
And then people are so kind in the No Agenda audience, so kind to send me Yelp reviews where people talk about the bed bugs.
And I swear to God, the other night I went to go to the elevators and there was a police tape in front of two doors.
You know, the do not cross crime scene?
Yeah, there's a crime scene.
Yeah, and everywhere, you walk around and go through the hall and you see like 12 dudes going into one room and this big waft of reefer throughout the whole hotel.
I picked a bad time to quit weed, man.
This would have been great.
It would have been great for me.
So, yeah, it's very interesting, and of course I have all my gear, and I set up on the premium Wi-Fi, premium, mind you, where you pay for three devices for 24 hours, premium Wi-Fi, $14.95, premium.
And I was getting probably a whole 350 kilobits up and down, premium.
Makes sense.
Once you were on, you were on the net.
Yeah, that was impossible.
And I have the iPhone, which I got now because now I'm a slave.
You can't be single without a smartphone.
Yeah, you'll be single for a long time if you don't have one.
And I tried the tethering and I have T-Mobile because they have the worldwide, you know, you never have to turn your data off.
They degrade it, I guess you get three and a half G or whatever in some countries maybe.
But you don't have to turn your data off.
Do they leave, how long does it run for before it craps out?
No, that is unlimited.
Because I have unlimited data on my team.
You have to remember, I have the $30 plan.
This is more expensive.
This is $80, but you get unlimited, and then you get five.
I'll tell you what happens with the $30 pen for people.
It degrades after you use your...
No, it's worse than that.
It actually does degrade, but it's very difficult to get it to degrade because you really have to use a lot of data before it degrades.
But if it gets to the point where you're at the degrade point, tethering stops working.
That's the problem.
Okay, so this is...
You're absolutely right.
The tethering is all separate.
So you get a bundle, and you can get true unlimited, unlimited anywhere in the world, or obviously where T-Mobile provides service, but that is pretty much everywhere in the world, certainly where I go.
And then you have to purchase your tethering data separately.
And I think I had maybe three gigs or something, and last night I'm starting to do clips and stuff, and then I get a warning.
Ah, okay, so now I have, God knows, I don't know, 20 gigs a month or something, just for the tethering, for this purpose only, which is really, that's like an extra 50 bucks, which of course is outrageous.
Now, I will say this.
When I, my tethering crapped out in some situation, because I'd overused the free unlimited, they did give me a warning, and I could have gotten, I could have bought, I could have spent the 15 bucks or something.
You can upgrade on the spot.
Yeah, T-Mobile's great about that, I have to say.
Yep.
And then it doesn't carry over.
I mean, once you upgrade it for that, like you just stay on the air, this doesn't go on your next month's bill.
It doesn't continue on and on and on forever.
Oh, I think this...
I'll have to look at that.
Anyway, I'm just not taking any risk.
I don't know what I'm going to be doing.
What is the max?
12 gigabytes?
Tether it?
Give it to me.
I just want to be on the air.
And we have tried MiFi hotspots before.
But this, this is LTE, and I have two bars LTE in the room.
And I'm, yeah, knock on wood, of course, but I'm very impressed.
I don't hear any delay.
Normally, you can have a slight delay if you're on 4G versus LTE. There's all kinds of packages.
No, you sound right on the money.
No, I don't.
What do you mean you don't?
I said, no, you sound on the money.
I don't know.
It sounded negative to a positive.
I don't know.
It didn't feel right.
No, it's just you sound good.
No, I sound good.
No, you do.
No.
No.
Yes, no.
Yes, no.
I sound good.
Anyway, so it's very cold in New York.
They got the yes removed.
I know.
So it's been nice.
And the only thing that's messed up is just the opportunity.
Because I'm here as a guest, although it shows you how they treat their guests.
A guest of the production, some high-end reality show about girls becoming models.
Did I tell you this already?
About this show?
Yeah, I think I'm going to make you a supermodel.
And this guy, he's kind of the modern version of Ugly George.
Do you remember Ugly George from Channel J in New York?
Actually, no.
Okay, Ugly George, back in the early days of cable in New York, I'm talking late 80s or mid-80s to late 80s, you had maybe 20 channels, and then you had the channel A, B, C, D, and then you had just lettered channels, and channel J was a local access, and you had Robin Bird, and she would...
Yeah, she's always naked.
Yeah, come on baby, bang my box, that was her theme song, and then you had Ugly George, and Ugly George had this...
Cam, he was just like a kind of grungy, dirty-looking guy with a beard, but he had this backpack with a fake satellite dish, and he had a camera, and he'd go up to girls on the street, and he said, hey, I'm Ugly George, and I'm going to make you famous, and he'd get them to come back to some place, and then they'd take their clothes off for him, and that would be on Channel J. Yeah, I vaguely remember that show.
There was a bunch of shows like that on that channel.
Yeah.
So this guy is kind of like that.
He just stands in a busy street and goes, you, you are going to be the next supermodel.
And then he literally picks him off the street and then there's some judging portion or whatever.
And now they're all in New York to do their auditions for Avon and Revlon and Nicole Miller and God knows what else.
Yeah.
That is the crew that has invited me here just because I know someone.
I'm not in the show.
Although I did ask...
So they're putting the models up in the Pennsylvania Hotel too?
Yes!
This guy's a cheap prick.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Yeah, that'd be correct.
It's a European production, man.
Come on.
They got no money.
So everything else.
Oh, I went to, so I did see a play, a musical.
As you know, I love the singing and dancing.
This is one you said I could never get into.
I will say because of the weather conditions in New York, tickets were available.
Oh, right, the weather conditions.
Yes, people were giving up their tickets.
And the show must go on.
Book of Mormon.
Yeah.
I'm very happy I saw that.
Man, that was good.
I'm glad you saw it.
I've never seen it.
You've never seen it?
If you're going through San Francisco, I might check it out.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Well, any show that has a guy singing I Have Maggots in My Scrotum, just kind of, you know, I'd say that's the one I like.
Yeah, I've never heard all the songs, but they're supposed to be pretty funny.
Very, very good.
Yeah, very impressed.
And the Neil Simon Theater is not very big, but it's just beautiful.
You just walk into old world New York.
There's not a lot of theaters that are that big.
There's a couple that are like 1,200 seats.
The rest are smaller.
Yeah.
The Sondheim Theater is pretty big.
No, actually, yeah.
That's probably about 800 or 900.
Anyway.
So there you are.
So it's cold and miserable.
Yeah, pretty much.
I love New York, though.
You walk around, particularly in the cold, so people don't smell so bad as normal on the streets.
The streets in general just don't smell bad because it's all frozen shut.
The pee is all frozen.
The pee is all frozen.
You step in dog crap and it rolls away.
It just crunches.
It's crunchy.
It's good.
I like it.
I have to say.
Why don't you move back?
Wait, is that before or after my sorrow tour of Hot Pockets?
No, the sorrow tour first because that's a winner.
The Sorrow Tour.
And then Boogie to New York, where a studio apartment is $3,000.
I know, it's unbelievably good.
Well, here, I got an idea.
This is based on the Dvorak cycles.
Not my cycles, but just some I observed.
So there'll be a depression in about two years.
Everything will collapse upon on itself.
Including real estate prices, I presume.
No, real estate price, but rent price will go down, but real estate will probably level off, except in places like New York and San Francisco where they're overbuilding.
Like San Francisco, they're building condos everywhere.
They can't be sustained.
Real real estate, like houses and things like that, should be stable because they already had their crash in 2008.
It only happens once every 50 years or so.
Anyway, so you get in your Airstream, hit the road, you go floating around for two years.
Two years.
Save as much money as you can.
Wait for the collapse.
Now you're going to have a little pot of cash.
I got 10 grand now.
Sell the Airstream.
Take that money back.
Sell the Airstream.
And then go into New York and pick something up.
Wow.
You have my life mapped out.
This is fantastic.
Yeah, that's what I would do.
And then you can just become a New Yorker.
You know, boring and full of himself about New York.
How's the greatest city in the world?
Angry.
Rude.
Angry, screaming.
Rude.
Talking about the hot dog prices going up.
It's a big, you know, used to be a dollar and now they're like two.
Of course, few people who are in New York are actually from New York.
No, and in fact, smart money New Yorkers all live in Brooklyn.
Oh, even that's too expensive.
Anyway, there's really no news per se from New York.
That's a disappointment.
It is a bit disappointing.
It's cold.
People are pissed.
The news is there's another cold front coming through.
I don't think it's snow necessarily, but they're talking extremely cold temperatures.
Get out of there.
Yes, tomorrow.
Tomorrow I'm out.
So you're right.
Again?
It is.
And now everybody's pronouncing it Houthis.
Ah, yes.
You notice this?
No, but I do recall where I said it's H-O-U-T-H-I-S and Houthis, Houthis.
And everyone's pronouncing it Houthis as though the T-H was like Spanish, you know, Houthis.
Right, right.
And no, it's Houthis.
Everyone's pronouncing it Houthis.
And there's a lot of news about them because they took over the place.
Mm-hmm.
This is Yemen, we need to clarify.
Yes, they took over Yemen.
Now, what people should note about this little news item is that until they took over Yemen, we never heard of these people.
No.
This is the kind of how everyone's keeping us up to date.
All the mainstream media folks, they're keeping us apprised of what's actually going on.
And it's such a joke.
Now, I have two clips.
I should have cut one down.
The Houthis, they aren't necessarily our friends.
Oh, okay.
That's the interesting thing about this one clip.
Do they steal all our weapons yet?
No.
You've got to hear this.
This is long.
Alright, I'm good.
I've got two reports.
I've got one from Democracy Now, but I have the one from PBS where they interview the New York Times reporter who is their man on the street right now.
It's not Richard Engel or one of these correspondents from one of the networks.
It's a guy that's a rioter.
And he tells a tale that is nothing that you've heard before.
And it's long, but it's well worth listening to.
He says that the Houthis are...
You just have to listen to it.
So play the clip that's just marked Houthis.
In Yemen, Britain and France joined the U.S. in closing their embassies as turmoil spread in the capital city.
Crowds protested today in Sana'a against Shiite rebels who took over the government last week.
The rebels patrolled the streets and there were scattered reports of beatings and even stabbings.
Rod Nordland of the New York Times is in Sana'a and I spoke with him a short time ago.
A question right there.
When's the last time you heard a news report from the Middle East about stabbings?
Who cares?
Yeah, well, that tells me...
That's strange.
Well, I think the who cares comment is apt, and what this tells me is that...
The level of violence is so low...
That they have to count stabbings.
That they have to count stabbings, which could have come from any number of criminal actions.
So that was the first hint I had that something was strange about this.
But let's continue with the interview with this guy from the New York Times, who pretty much, I think, tells us the true story that we're not getting from anywhere.
Rod Nordland, welcome.
We understand not only did officials at the U.S. Embassy close it down, they've also abandoned cars at the airport in Sanaa, left weapons in the cars.
What is the situation on the ground now?
Well, they did, but they also left in an orderly way.
They went into the airport and got on commercial flights.
And the Houthis, who are in control of things here, say that they're just taking those cars for safekeeping and they're following Yemeni law.
And they're doing their best to try to Prevent it from blowing up into any bigger an incident than it is, actually.
Hey, hello.
Hello, New York Times man.
This is not scary.
Well, this is why nobody else...
How can it be a long report if he's not scary?
He's not doing it right.
The surprising thing is, it's actually really pretty calm on the streets.
No!
Get this guy off the air!
What would you say the attitude is of this new Houthi government toward the U.S.? Well, they're trying desperately to reach out to the United States and to try to persuade them...
We're not talking to them.
I don't hear anybody.
It came in on Democracy Now!
It says exactly that.
I love that.
We're not listening, Houthis.
We only know Houthis.
We don't know Houthis.
I know who you are.
That they want to be on friendly terms.
And they haven't had much success doing that.
I think the Americans want to see a government in place and one that the Houthis agree on with other parties and not one that's just completely dominated by them.
It's just Houthis.
Yeah.
How do we get along with Saudi Arabia?
They don't have a bunch of different factions running their government.
Why don't we have a bunch of factions?
Oh, we can't just have you.
We have to have some of our...
This is the problem with American diplomacy.
These guys take over the place, kick out these corrupt individuals, including our buddy, the guy running the place, and these guys say, this is crap, and they take over.
This is a real revolution of a high order.
This is a true coup.
A true coup.
And they are in, and they're taking over...
I did.
They're protecting property.
They're keeping people's cars safe.
I'm pissed because there was a clip that I think I actually recorded.
I think I trashed it.
It was Jen Psaki.
And she was, I can't believe I tried, I'll see if I can find it.
And she was saying, well, you know, they took some of our weapons and we're asking them to give it back to us.
It was very strange.
But in the context of this, it would have been better to have it.
But I just wasn't thinking that it was interesting because it was kind of hanging out there.
Let's listen to the rest.
This is good.
This is a very, very astute report.
We know that the U.S. and the Houthis are on the same side of the fight against Al-Qaeda.
Could that make for...
We've already heard this.
This is their whole thing.
We're on the same...
We hate each other, but they want to get rid of Al-Qaeda, too.
We seem to hate them more than they hate us.
Is it thought?
Well, I think it's already making for cooperation.
You know, the Houthis have long campaigned against American drone strikes, even though they're against their bitter enemies, Al-Qaeda.
And since taking control, they've done nothing to interfere with those.
In fact, they've dialed back the anti-drone and anti-American rhetoric.
So, Rod, with no U.S. embassy there, how are they trying to reach out to the U.S.? What is the message?
Ham Radio.
There you go.
Are they tweeting?
Are they just tweeting?
We want to talk?
ISIS does this.
ISIL does it.
ISIS does this.
Al-Qaeda does this.
Everyone's tweeting.
They're on the social media.
Is it so hard?
Email?
Well, I interviewed their leader here a couple days ago, and he was very adamant about trying to have better relations with the U.S. He even went so far as to Pretty much repudiate their slogan, which includes death to America.
What is the slogan, actually, of the Houthis?
Death to America?
Wait a minute.
He said their slogan, which includes death to America.
I'd love to know the whole...
Hold on.
What is the Houthi slogan?
If you don't mind, I just want to check this out.
Here it is.
I have it.
Houthi official slogan.
Death to America.
Death to Israel.
Damn the Jews.
Damn the Jews?
God is great.
Death to America.
Death to Israel.
Damn the Jews.
Power to Islam.
Look, the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group is available because this is not a catchy slogan.
No, no, no.
And it's certainly not if you're trying to reach out to, I don't know, America.
It's top of the list.
Oh, no, I'm sorry.
God is great.
That's the top.
Death to America.
Death to Israel.
Damn the Jews.
Power to Islam.
Now there's a funny thing this guy now says.
Want to talk?
Want to talk?
Did I finish this up?
Yeah, no, the guy, now it gets funny because he confronted him about the death to America thing.
This is very funny.
I'm going to roll it back a second.
He even went so far as to pretty much repudiate their slogan, which, you know, includes death to America, and say, that's just a slogan.
We don't mean it literally.
We don't mean it literally!
You know, we want to be friends with the United States and with Saudi Arabia and other countries in the region.
And he even played down their connection to Iran.
It's why they believe that the Iranians financed them.
But he said that wasn't true, and they didn't want to see Iran make headway in Yemen either.
So it's a very reassuring message, but it's hard for the Americans to take that seriously when, first of all, they don't have an actual government to deal with here, whether it's a Houthi or other government, including the Houthi, and I think they want to see that before they move forward.
That's a great report.
So we have this screwball situation developing.
And they say, go ahead, you can drone these Al-Qaeda guys.
It saves us money.
And they're just anti-Al-Qaeda.
And they're, of course, Shiites, so they're not...
And the Al-Qaeda guys are Sunnis, and so that fits into the scheme of things.
And I'm sure that they're probably nativists.
They really are Yemenis, and they don't want Iran to be coming in there and mucking things up.
They just want to...
It's almost like a little slightly anarchistic operation.
And it sounds like a winner to me.
But, you know, we're going to be dicks as usual.
There's a line in the Book of Mormon where Jesus comes down and says to one of the...
Hey, this is a spoiler.
It is.
He says, you're a dick.
No, it's kind of good.
You had to be there.
Alright, let's move on to the democracy now.
Amy Goodman?
Yeah, this is the same report, but this is done without the New York Times guy.
This is the more typical report we've been getting.
This is what people will see on their so-called trusted media.
The State Department has closed the U.S. Embassy in Yemen and evacuated its staff, including the ambassador, amidst a political and security crisis in the capital, Sanaa.
Yemen has been in limbo since Houthi rebels forced the resignation of the Yemeni cabinet, then seized power last week.
In Washington, State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki declined to share details of the embassy closure with reporters.
The safety and security of U.S. personnel in Yemen is our top priority and we are always evaluating the security situation on the ground and taking steps to mitigate risks.
We have been reducing staff in Yemen over the past few weeks, as all of you know, given the volatile political and security situation.
We have nothing further to announce over and above what we have previously announced.
The Houthis have dissolved Yemeni parliament and named Muhammad Ali al-Houthi as the new president in place of the ousted Abdurabbi Mansour Hadi.
The Houthis' move comes as they take part in a new round of UN broker talks.
I love how those guys always adjust their name.
So he's now Houthis, he's the new president?
Yeah, that's pretty good.
It's a different naming convention than we're used to.
It's hard to pronounce.
Okay, so that is...
Now, the reason why Yemen is important to us...
I don't know of any reason.
Al-Qaeda hangs out there.
We have to bomb them.
It's a good Gulf of Aden.
It's like a shipping area.
Yeah, it was right across the puddle there from Saudi Arabia.
Is it not?
No, no.
It's at the tip of Saudi Arabia.
Yeah.
Let's look at the maps.
Yes.
This is a good thing to do.
Yemen map.
Let me see.
Yeah, so it's the Gulf of Aden where the Stargate is.
But, okay.
So, of course, Djibouti is where we have our drone base.
That's why it's in Djibouti is to go drone the Al-Qaeda in Yemen, the Arabian Peninsula.
Right.
However, I think...
But that choke point there at the Gulf of Aden and the Red Sea, that's the problem.
If somebody gets in control of that, then we're screwed.
That's the main shipping pass-through.
Yeah, and so we have Djibouti, so we're in good shape there.
I tapped that Djibouti.
Yeah.
You're going to give yourself a...
No.
And...
A ding?
They must have pipelines going through this place, too, I'm sure.
I don't know why.
Well, doesn't Yemen have any resources?
Not that I know of.
It used to be traditionally the poorest country in the entire Middle East.
Oh, they have the Khat, of course.
They have the Khat.
The drugs.
The Khat?
Yeah, don't they have the Khat.
Oh, the Khat.
Yeah, K-A-H-T. Okay.
Or K-H-A-T. So I'm seeing we have...
Man, we do have the Yemen Natural Gas LNG Company, but that's way the hell over.
That's nowhere near.
No, I don't think it's anything but the access to that...
Yeah, to the...
That must be straight.
Is that called the straights of something?
I don't know what it's called.
Let's find out by enlarging the map.
Anyway, Yemen is traditionally the poorest country.
I'd love to visit there, by the way.
They're supposed to have some great picturesque villages and old abandoned cities.
And then at one point before the recent, before our show and sometime before that, there was actually two Yemens, which combined to make one big Yemen.
But the South Yemen, which is the southern part down over by the water in the corner, was considered the poorest country in the entire world.
Wow.
Conveniently located to places like Ethiopia.
Yeah.
They could just swap out poor people.
If you're hungry...
Swim!
If you're hungry, Ethiopia's not the way to go.
Huh.
Interesting.
Yeah, I don't see anything.
Because we've been just killing people left and right with the drones.
And by the way, I think the reason we do that, and again, especially Al-Qaeda, because I think Al-Qaeda wants to take over that area and pull some stunt at the bottleneck.
Well, okay, so this does fold into, I believe, a larger picture, which includes...
And I think...
And I've been trying to watch as much news coverage as I can.
Although people are extrapolating from it, I don't think anyone has actually...
Read any of the language of this joint resolution which the President, Obama, wants Congress to...
Well, there's enough people reading it to say, and I haven't read it, because I know you'd read it, is that it's too general.
It doesn't really focus on anything, and you can take over, you can run troops into Iceland if you want to.
Because it's only two and a half pages...
I think we can just highlight a few things and let the producers, listeners, producers of the show actually listen to what is being proposed and make their own decision.
Or read.
Yeah, well, of course, we have it marked up in the show notes.
And it's a joint resolution, which is interesting.
It's not like a law or anything, but it's a joint resolution to issue...
Authorization of use of military force.
Do you mind if I just read some of the highlights here?
No, go ahead.
So with every joint resolution, we see this a lot.
I said no yeah there.
Yeah, it's okay.
That's a good one.
No yeah is better than yeah no.
With every resolution, and we see this a lot in the European Union and the United Nations, they start off with a lot of whereas.
So that's all the facts that they're placing down.
So whereas, the terrorist organization has referred itself to Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, and various other names, and please pay attention, in parentheses it says, in this resolution referred to as ISIL. So there can be no discrepancy.
News people...
If the joint resolution specifically speaks of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, referred to in this resolution as ISIL, ISIS, Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, Islamic State, are not valid.
And I think that's just as egregious as Brian Williams lying is when the document says this and people use a different word.
Why is that?
Well, we've been trying to figure that out for a while on the show.
Other than they don't want to be complicit in this huge scam that's being pulled off.
Well, that could be, but what difference does it make whether they call it ISIS or ISIL if it involves the scam?
It scams the scam.
Well, I'm just saying it is specifically mentioned in this resolution referred to as ISIS. I think it's code.
poses a grave threat to the people and territorial integrity of Iraq, Syria, regional stability, and the national security interests of the United States and its allies and partners.
What is the difference between an ally and a partner?
you An ally, I think, is formalized.
Mm-hmm.
One way, and a partner's formalized another.
Oh.
And I also think allies refers to war status, so I think you can have a trade partner, but not somebody that's going to go to war.
I think Russia's a partner, for example, and it's an ally.
I don't know.
It's bullcrap.
Yes.
Whereas ISIL holds significant territory in Iraq and Syria and has stated its intention to seize more territory and demonstrated the capability to do so.
Whereas ISO leaders have stated they intend to conduct terrorist attacks internationally, including against the United States, its citizens, and its interests.
I think that's pretty bold.
Yeah, apparently not in that order.
Whereas ISIL has committed despicable acts of violence and mass executions against Muslims, regardless of sect, who do not subscribe to ISIL's depraved, violent, and oppressive ideology.
Boy, some conjecture there, huh?
That's poetic license, people.
Whereas ISIL has threatened genocide and committed various acts of violence against religious and ethnic minority groups, including Iraqi Christian, Yazidi, and Turkmen populations.
Whereas ISIL has targeted innocent women and girls with horrific acts of violence, including abduction, enslavement, torture, rape, and forced marriage.
How about Pakistan?
How about India for forced marriage?
I know that was a big deal all of a sudden.
Whereas ISIL is responsible for the deaths of innocent United States citizens.
This I found to be interesting.
For the mention of the innocent United States citizens in this resolution are only those citizens who have been killed without actual video evidence of their killing.
Because it includes James Foley, who we did not see his head actually cut off.
Stephen Saltoff, we did not actually see a beheading.
Abdulrahman Peter Kasig, we also did not see an actual beheading.
And Kayla Mueller, we have no evidence, other than hearsay, that she is dead.
No one else.
No other beheading, no other immolation, no nothing.
Nothing at all is, of course, that would be the Jordanian guy, but there's no other mention of any other Americans.
Only the ones that had bullcrap produced videos.
Then we skip a couple of things here.
Whereas the United States has taken military action against ISIL in accordance with its inherent right of individual and collective self-defense.
I love this line, and I'm not quite sure where is that inherent right documented?
Is that just a known?
It's inherent.
Does that mean...
How do I interpret that?
Does every country have the inherent right of individual and collective self-defense?
I would have to say yes to that.
Okay.
If one country does, all countries should have that.
And that's inherent, which means...
Well, I mean, it's like you have the inherent right to breathe.
Yes, okay.
I do.
I think it's a weasel word.
They put it in, so they can move along.
Mm-hmm.
Now we get to the actual resolution.
Here we go.
Section 1 short title.
The joint resolution may be cited as the authorization for use of military force against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.
So, news media.
This is the title.
I'm pissed about it.
You're peeing in the wind about this.
Authorization.
The president is authorized.
Subject to the limitations in subsection C, to use the armed forces of the United States as the President determines to be necessary and appropriate against ISIL or And here it comes.
Associated persons or forces as defined in Section 5.
So let us skip ahead here and go to the limitation.
First of all, this is what was referenced as Section C. The authority granted in Subsection A, which, consistent with the War Powers Act, The definition of the word enduring...
John, is enduring...
I thought you were going to read something that was the definition of the word enduringness in the document.
Yes, well, I was going to do that.
I wondered if you had...
Oh, no, there's no definition in the document, no.
The definition is...
It's a vague word.
Continuing or long-lasting.
Yeah, what does that mean?
It needs to be defined.
That's one of the things people are bitching about about the document.
Exactly, not defined.
The authorization for the use of military force shall terminate three years after the date of the enactment of this joint resolution, unless reauthorized.
We know that everything gets reauthorized.
The President shall report to Congress at least every six months on specific actions taken pursuant to this authorization.
This, I think, is where I have grievances over this.
If we give you, if we give the President, not Congress, but the President, the right to use military force, I think it should be every six days.
You should be checking in with me.
Every six days.
Yeah, here's what I did.
Killed these guys.
We put these boots down the ground.
Where's your log?
Yeah, where's your log book?
Where's your log?
Your log.
That's what you do if you work for the government.
You always have to maintain a log.
A log of stuff.
And then the Section 5, Associated Persons or Forces Defined.
So this is the only definition.
I wish they had defined enduring.
Because remember, didn't we have Operation Enduring Freedom?
How long was that war?
Ten years?
Wait, wasn't there an enduring freedom thing?
Something, I don't know, maybe.
But enduring needs to be defined.
Enduring.
Let me see.
And if you go back into history, here it is.
The Hundred Years War was, you know, enduring.
Operation Enduring Freedom, the current official name.
There's a reason this word is in here.
The current official name for the U.S. government for the war in Afghanistan.
So that was only 13 years.
Wasn't it 13, 10, 12, 13?
So it could be 13 years or something of that word.
Okay, so enduring could mean 13 years.
Yes, if it's Operation Endurance.
You're right.
The word is dropped in there because they've already got...
They already used that.
There's a bunch of lawyers, so everything's done on precedent, right?
Yes.
We've already done this enduring thing.
13 years.
What are you bitching about we've only been 10?
The operation was originally called Operation Infinite Justice.
I remember that.
That was no good.
That was like a religious thing that people got all bent out of shape.
But I think enduring freedom is good.
The war on terror in Afghanistan was Operation Enduring Freedom, enduring about 13 years.
So this is, let's just say 13 years.
As that's how long the boots could be on the ground.
Well, they say there's going to be no boots on the ground.
No, that's not true.
That's what we're led to understand.
No, that's not true.
No, that is true.
We're led to understand that.
Well, you were led to understand that.
Well, then it has to be true.
The other part is true.
The partisan that's not true is that's not what's in the document.
The authorization for the use of military...
Here it is.
Does not authorize the use of United States Armed Forces in enduring offensive ground combat operations, i.e.
boots on the ground.
This is, again, another thing people have been complaining about.
They say, well, that means we can send troops in, but it's only going to be for a month.
No, it's 13 years.
We just determined that.
I know.
That's what we've just determined is 13 years.
Well, that's why people listen to this show, I hope.
So now you know that if they're going to send troops in, they can leave them there for 13 years and maintain the definition of endurance.
Then we have Section 5, Associated Persons or Forces Defined.
They did take the time to define who the president can kill.
In this joint resolution, the term associated persons or forces means individuals and organizations fighting for, on behalf of, alongside ISIL, or any closely related successor entity in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners.
Which means we could be actually droning people in America.
Because it could be anybody.
There's no limitation on where.
The only limitation is on someone saying that you're closely related, you're a successor entity, you support them, you're doing it on behalf of...
So you could not even...
You could just be saying, I'm doing this on behalf of somebody.
By the way, that's been slipped into the news as a meme.
On behalf of?
On behalf of ISIL, recruiting on behalf of ISIL. On behalf of ISIL, right.
And all this sort of thing.
So now what they've done with this document, it sounds like...
They've created a legal framework.
Ah, their favorite legal framework, yes.
Legal framework.
Okay, so they're already testing this out.
So, without doubt, this should be a no, no, no.
Any person, any representative who votes yes for this should really be thrown in the stockade.
This is wholly inappropriate.
I don't know if they're going to change this resolution.
I'm not quite sure if you put amendments or how that works exactly with this type of document.
Oh, they'll add a few amendments and boom, unanimous.
Except for maybe three people.
Because it's not really a bill.
Yeah, it's a resolution.
So already, we are now preparing the public.
And this is where it all comes together.
These videos, the highly produced videos.
So I spoke to a couple people on the production TV here who I had consulted earlier about the Burning Man video.
I said, you know, holy crap.
This is, you know, tell me what this...
Now, I'd sent this...
They're from Europe, so they don't really all pay attention.
But they thought...
That the Burning Man video was a reenactment done by Hollywood to show what had happened with the Jordanian pilot.
I said, no, you don't understand.
This is what the President of the United States says is proof that they burned this Jordanian pilot because that was him.
They're like, are you fucking kidding me?
I said, no, really?
And everyone falls for that in America?
I said, well, apparently so do you, stupid Holland.
And then I got an email about an actual, about some of the processes, which then lights started to go on.
This is from one of our producers, Nathan, who has a, he's a professional in visual video effects.
He says, Adam and John, what is this talk of high-end Macs and fire?
Please consult a real visual effects artist instead of these jabronis who are just pasting Google links at you.
Let me explain.
You can take pre-shot elements and digitally composite them in the shot.
The CG fire takes very experienced artists and high-end boxes to run it on, and he has done an analysis.
He says, check out the slow-mo.
You can actually see vector stretching, which is done by a program called Twixtore.
That draws frames in between frames.
And if you look at the Slobo, you see weird and wavy when it's too heavy.
The computer couldn't really estimate what's going on between the frames and stretching it out.
He says, dead giveaway.
This has been created digitally.
But it is based on this bullcrap that we now have Jordan attacking Syria, that we are building a true, kind of a new coalition.
We are speaking of having, it'll all be Americans, because we'll have, for some time, enduring time, we'll have some combat boots and advisors and consultants.
But we are just going to go and create this entire wag the dog, you mentioned that last show, very important people watch this movie again, Yeah, I noticed.
And his shoes are not shined, and it was very peculiar.
If I was him, I would...
Get the fuck out.
Well, he has been invited.
I mean, it's a known invite, a permanent invite, to move to Russia with his pretty wife.
Well, he...
Yeah.
I don't know why he hasn't done it by now.
Well, that...
Really, he hasn't...
Consolidating his bank account.
Can you imagine if Assad went to Russia?
That would be perfect!
Perfect for us.
Oh, let's bomb Moscow.
All right, here's Kirby, Rear Admiral Kirby, and apparently they killed some guy who was a former Gitmo detainee, but they killed him in Afghanistan because he was up to no good.
And I think this is a precursor to helping us understand why we need this authorization of use of military force for ISIL. So we can just go kill anybody wherever we need to, whenever we feel the urge.
The way I would describe ISIL in Afghanistan is nascent at best.
Nascent.
Nascent?
N-A-C-I-E-N-T. So that means very little, almost not there.
I think it means developing.
Let's look it up.
That's the great thing about our show.
We can actually look stuff up.
I'm just going to go with the definition.
N-A-C-I-E-N-T. Define...
This adjective?
Yes.
Just beginning, budding, developing, growing.
Fresh.
Infant.
Newborn.
Fresh.
The way I would describe ISIL in Afghanistan is nascent at best.
In fact, I would say more aspirational than anything else at this point.
There's no I. By the way, it's N-A-S-C-E-N-T. Oh, there's no I. Interesting.
So, aspirational at best.
So, this is a guy who aspires to be ISIL in Afghanistan.
Guess what?
He got killed.
This guy, Kadeem, we assess that...
I love this guy, Kadeem.
This guy, Kadeem, dead guy.
This guy is such a dick.
Like a bunch of mobsters.
He is.
This is the no-schwackin' guy, whatever.
Was it schwackin'?
Oh, yeah, schwack.
Decided to swear allegiance to ISIL probably no more than a couple weeks ago.
Oh.
I love this!
There you go!
Two weeks later, Dad, you kids take this message home!
Do they have a swearing-in ceremony, like a blood handshake or something, where you pledge allegiance?
Yeah, you carve an X in your palm.
It's like, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of ISIL. I mean, what is this?
Anything else at this point.
This guy, Kadeem, we assess that he decided to swear allegiance to ISIL probably no more than a couple weeks ago.
He didn't have a whole lot of depth to any network, resources, or manpower when he did it.
I'm not diminishing or trying to dismiss at all The threat that ISIL opposes and wants to pose, what I'm telling you is here in this case, it's nation and aspirational.
I'm telling you.
And that would be an aggressive...
It just reminds me, what comes to mind is the...
These movies or these videos that these guys are...
that I don't know who's producing.
It could be us.
And it's always the same.
There's a big room filled with guys wearing all kinds of...
kind of a ragtag outfit.
And they're hanging out.
And then they all raise the gun in this room.
And this is like the recruiting room or something.
And then they have these never-ending...
Oh, there's so many foreigners coming over to join us.
30,000 foreign fighters.
And all you see, all you ever see, the room.
Yeah, the room.
The room.
And a couple of Toyotas.
He and his associates were targeted because we had information that they were planning operations against U.S. and Afghan persons.
When I'm killed, John...
Please make it not acceptable for the reason to be...
Yeah, he was planning...
This is so disgraceful.
We killed human beings.
Yes?
Killed them.
And the guy who has to explain why can't really remember.
Stammering.
He doesn't know why.
He doesn't remember.
Play this short clip, ISIS and the Foreign Fighters Meme.
Uh, okay.
The bombing campaign in Syria and Iraq has done little to stop foreign fighters from joining the Islamic State.
US intelligence leaders told a House hearing today that some 20,000 foreign fighters from 90 countries have joined the militants.
That includes up to 150 Americans who have tried to reach the war zone inside Syria.
How do we know this?
We counted them.
How do we know there's 150 Americans trying to reach the war zone?
Why don't we just track them down and arrest them?
How do we know what the...
We got the NSA's listening in on every conversation that anyone's having about their love affairs, and meanwhile, if you can't find these 150 guys and just throw them in the slammer?
You know how we know this?
Common Core math, my friend.
operations against US and Afghan personnel there in Afghanistan.
They were planning something against personnel.
His associates were targeted because we knew they were planning attacks.
And as I've said before, Pierre Dion, we got into this whole rhetorical debate about the Taliban and whether or not we're going to continue to go after them, given that we're in a new mission.
And I told you then, and this is proof of it today.
Hold on, he told us, and then it happened.
That's amazing how that works.
We're going to continue to go after them, given that we're in a new mission.
And I told you then, and this is proof of it today, that they're going to threaten our interests, our allies, our partners in Afghanistan.
They're fair game, and they're fair game.
Bullshit!
Fair game!
Mark the time.
Because you made a sound that I've never heard.
You've done this a couple of times.
You made some sort of a weird sound that is the perfect beginning of the show clip.
Okay.
Alright.
103.
Yeah, but it's before, obviously, before you...
It's like Tourette's thing?
No, it was this crazy sound.
You just want me to be the opening for the show.
Okay, I get it.
Well, that one I just did as possible, too.
It's not as funny, believe me.
So let's go to, this fits in with your clip, what we just heard about, about all these foreign fighters.
And this is...
Despite, by the way, despite the bombings and the death and all the rest, they're still joining like crazy.
This is a meme that is being presented for a reason.
Yeah, so that we can...
Yes, of course.
It's the same as the videos.
It's all about just make sure...
John, we already have the banking dominance in the world now that we know from our Wall Street former banker.
So that's all set.
We have all the trillions of derivatives, whatever, but we rule the banking world.
We're screwing Russia.
We're screwing the euro.
Everything is going swimmingly well.
All we need now is just to set it up so that we can kill anybody else.
Anywhere in the world, for whatever reason, by drone, or any other way we want, with boots on the ground for 13 years, by authority of the president only, which will carry over into one year of the next president's dominance, rule, and if the American public wants their representatives to approve this, well, you get the government you deserve, and I hope they drone you.
It's disgusting.
Disgusting.
Here is how Steinbach, who is counter-terrorism assistant director, addresses the issue of not being, and this was in congressional hearings, not being able to yet, and listen to the arrogance of this fuck,
sorry, Not yet tracking people who are flying out of the country who then are going to join the fight in Syria because of the broken travel, which means you fly to Amsterdam and then you can drive.
You can drive to Turkey if you want.
There are many different ways to get there.
But listen to the arrogance of this guy about...
Americans traveling abroad.
Foreign fighter travel to a conflict zone in support of a foreign terrorist organization is against the law.
So the FBI has lead on that.
So traveling to a foreign conflict zone is against the law?
I guess it is.
He said it was.
Let me just listen again.
They've got a lot of stuff that's against the law.
I'd like to know where this law is.
Foreign fighter travel.
Foreign fighter travel, which is a cruise line.
Travel to a conflict zone in support of a foreign terrorist organization is against the law.
Oh, in support of a terrorist organization.
Well, yeah.
So, I would say that the travel is not against the law.
I don't think that's against...
I don't think it's against the law.
Supporting a terrorist organization, as we know, is going to be punishable by death by drone.
I don't think it's against the law to travel.
However, this guy...
So the FBI has lead on that.
We got the lead, bitches.
The question is, when you look at the broken travel, as Mr.
Herb brought up earlier, when you look at the ways to legitimate citizens traveling abroad is not something that we choose to curtail.
Okay.
Oh, thank you very much.
What a dick!
What a dick!
Oh, they're not going to curtail our travel.
That's so nice.
No, he chooses not to curtail.
Because we could choose to curtail whenever we want.
That arrogance is...
Listen to the rest of this.
So if you take travel to destinations like Europe, where you can then take these away with the Schengen...
Hear the Schengen?
We've been talking about the Schengen Agreement.
This is going to be reversed.
This is about the open borders of Europe.
So he's mentioning this, but he swallows it and moves on.
Down to Turkey.
So it's more about identifying the multitude of ways that these individuals in the U.S. are committed to travel using good investigative processes.
Are they going up to Canada?
Are they going down to Mexico?
How are they getting to...
How are they using lawful process, lawful ways to get to...
You mean like inherent rights of a citizen to travel, which he calls lawful process?
If it weren't so horrible...
Now the funny thing, of course, we have to realize is this is a classic government screwing with the numbers.
If there's only 150 Americans who have apparently not even made it there, but have attempted to supposedly, out of the hundreds of thousands of travelers that the United States has on a monthly basis, and we're dealing with 150 and they're talking like this, this is sick.
Yes, sir.
These locations.
So it's not a function of not having the tools.
We have the tools.
We can do whatever we want with citizens.
Just as much creativity as we do, and they've got a lot of support.
So they reach out on social media, on platforms, talk to people who've done it and made it, and then follow the travel route.
So we've got to stay on.
Let me ask, can you read tweets, Mr.
FBI Man?
If this is where they're tweeting on social media...
They're finding people who did it and then they follow their routes.
Yeah, Kenji, it's so hard to crack.
I don't know what we're going to do.
Maybe ISIL blocked the FBI on Twitter and like, oh crap.
No, we can't read what they're saying.
Top of that and use tripwires, the intelligence community, the 17,000 state, local, and tribal law enforcement agencies to develop an understanding of what the landscape is.
So wait a minute.
There's 17,000 people trying to develop what the landscape is, and they can't read tweets, and they're trying to catch 150 people?
It's 17,000.
Why don't we just find these 150 people and give them 10 grand each and tell them to stay home?
Ha ha ha!
It would save so much money.
So the message I'm getting...
Are you thinking of becoming a terrorist?
Come on in for your check and stay home.
...from you here today is that you feel like we've got that under control?
This is a wrap-up.
I forget which senator this is, but it was kind of...
Do you think we have this under control?
The message I'm getting from you here today is that you feel like we've got that under control?
Hold on a second.
The message this guy's getting, a U.S. representative, a senator, the message he got from that spiel is, you have this under control.
Really?
Mr.
Senators?
So the message I'm getting from you here today is that you feel like we've got that under control or doing the best we can?
We don't have it under control.
Absolutely, we're doing the best we can.
If I were to say that we had it under control, then I would say I knew of every single individual traveling.
I don't, and I don't know every person there, and I don't know everyone coming back.
So it's not even close to being under control.
But that's what their goal is?
To have it all under control.
So under control means they know every single...
A single person coming in and out of the country and what they're up to.
That's why we need the NSA in a surveillance state because the definition of under control doesn't mean that they stopped anything.
It just means they know everybody and what they're up to.
Let's put chips on everybody and get it over with.
So meanwhile, something very curious has happened where what the FBI and the NSA and everybody can't do We now have the group known as Anonymous, and they are claiming they are taking down all social media accounts of terrorist organizations such as ISIL. And so they, you know, in typical anonymous fashion, and who knows who this is?
Right, the anonymous guy, his operation is pretty much shut down.
Well, in this video, they say, you know, we're Christians, Jews, Muslims, we're rich, we're poor, we're blue-collar, we're everybody except the terrorists.
And by the way, I'm a little tired, Anonymous, of your big bombastic boom-boom-boom-boom-boom, this is V, I've got the mask, boom-boom-boom-boom, boom-boom-boom, we are anonymous, boom-boom-boom-boom.
This is the government operation.
Like, it's never been that.
United is one divided by zero.
United is one divided by zero.
Common core math.
We are none of us.
Remember, the terrorists that are calling themselves Islamic State, ISIS, are not Muslims.
ISIS, we will hunt you.
Take down your sites, accounts, emails.
And expose you.
From now on, no safe place for you online.
You will be treated like a virus.
And we are the cure.
We own the internet.
Now, some of ISIS Twitter accounts, that were taken offline by Anonymous, Red Cult Team.
You will find the link in the video description.
Also, you will find some Facebook accounts suspected to have been keeping contact with the terrorists.
ISIS, in Syria and Iraq, won't hurt to keep an eye on them.
ISIS, we are anonymous.
We are legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us.
Here's some free advice.
Free advice, anonymous.
Pick one slogan!
Pick one!
You know, united by all, divided by zero.
We are legion.
We never forget.
Please, just pick one slogan and use it.
And stop with all the...
And then, you know, this is like The Verge.
They publish this crap in the comments.
Yeah, this is so awesome.
This is epic.
Yes, Anonymous is going to save us.
It's the same people who are crying that Jon Stewart resigned.
That was everybody.
Yeah.
Wow.
So that was it, huh?
You know what happened?
They had to take him out.
He was making too much sense.
John Stewart didn't quit for his health.
Actually, he did quit for his health.
Yes.
I'm so sad.
Who's going to take over?
No one can take over that show.
It was Jon Stewart.
I said this before.
I think he's ruined the show.
Not that it's a bad show, but he made it the Jon Stewart show.
Which is how it started.
It was originally the Jon Stewart show on MTV. Yes, it was on MTV. No, no, no.
There was a show that Craig Kilbourne ran called The Daily Show that Stewart took over.
I know there was a Jon Stewart show because I used to watch it, but he quit that show to become the head of The Daily Show.
It was that his show morphed into The Daily Show.
I'm sorry.
Comedy Central is owned by Viacom.
MTV Networks, to be specific, same company.
I was there when this happened.
This is just MTV. Yeah.
No.
I was there when...
It's the same people.
I was there when this happened so I can speak with some authority.
The Jon Stewart show that Kilbourne was doing, the Daily Show, but then they moved the people over from the Jon Stewart show.
Okay?
It always was the Jon Stewart show, but it just didn't have that name.
But what happened to Killborn show, the Daily Show?
They took the name, but it became...
Stewart is the guy.
He's the guy.
Yeah, it's the Jon Stewart show.
I agree with that.
But they plugged it into the other show, and so he ruined the Daily Show, because you can't put anybody else in that spot, and it would be crap.
It's going to be crummy.
At a certain point, with cable, you can only make so much money.
There's only so many viewers you can draw to a cable channel.
And Stuart, I'm sure that he just wants to do more.
But I also think there's an element of...
He wants to do movies.
He directed a film this year, and he liked it.
He enjoyed it.
He gets to deal with starlets.
And he can be his normal horndog self.
And he can go become a movie director, and he'll be fine with that.
And this thing was a dead end.
And meanwhile, everybody around him, from Steve Carell and everybody else, they all got out of it, and they were doing better things, and he's not.
He's the schmuck.
All right, I'm sorry I got off on that tangent, because I just want to finish up this.
You brought it up.
I said, I'm sorry.
I just want to finish this up.
Rand Paul interviewed about the, because now we have to look at who's going to authorize this.
Rand Paul not entirely on board yet with the authorization for the use of military force, not for the reasons we mentioned, which are quite obvious.
I think what we need to do and what we really could use is a president like the first George Bush, who put together a coalition of dozens of Arab countries, including Arab troops on the ground.
I think the only way this battle ultimately is won is with troops on the ground, but they need to be Arab troops.
How come these guys are all such experts now in military warfare?
Why do you need troops on the ground to go kill Assad?
I don't know why they just bomb his palace.
Can I point something out?
This guy's accent gets on my nerves.
Because where is it from?
And I will say he sounds a lot like Glenn Greenwald in the way he has these crazy pauses and the pacing and the cadence.
He's from Texas.
I mean, he's from Texas.
That's not a Texas accent.
He was born in Texas.
Yeah, he should be sounding like this, maybe.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, like I sound.
They need to be Iraqis.
They need to be Kurds.
One of the things we could do is directly arm the Kurds, and I'm in favor of this.
Right now, we're making the arms go through the Shiite government in Baghdad.
Pay attention to this.
This is very interesting.
And I'm concerned that adequate arms aren't getting to the Kurds.
Right now we're destroying our own weapons in Afghanistan.
Maybe we ought to think about taking some of the weapons if we're no longer using them in Afghanistan and transferring them to the Kurds.
We've prevented the Germans from arming the Kurds directly.
We tell the Germans that the weapons have to go through Baghdad.
The Kurds are the best fighters over there.
I think we really need to incorporate them and give them the goal of a homeland, and I think they'll be even more fierce fighters.
Turkey's a NATO ally.
We need to incorporate Turkey, and Turkey needs to have troops on the ground.
The Jordanians are fired up, and admirably so.
He's using Obama talk now.
They're fired up!
You know, he's running for president.
Ah, yes he is.
Wait, no.
Yes, he is running for president.
Part two of this.
They have been pushed back.
I don't think they're gaining ground.
I think it's worrisome, the fighters coming in.
And one of the people I blame for a lot of this, frankly, is Hillary Clinton.
The disaster that is...
What a dick!
Now you're a dick, Mr.
Kentucky.
You take this to move it towards a political smash against Hillary?
Oh man.
Yeah, it is dickish.
I mean, the reason we don't arm the Kurds directly with a bunch of stuff is because the Turks would not put up with that.
No, of course not.
The Turks hate the Kurds.
The first thing that will happen is the Kurds will turn on the Turks and take over that part of the country that they think they own.
It's a real disaster.
They get messed up with this Middle Eastern stuff.
But he's really propagating the original plan since the original Desert Storm.
He thinks he can get that neocon money.
Yeah.
And that's to break up Iraq into three pieces, and the third piece is Iraq and Syria, which requires us cock-blocking Putin while we take out Assad and take over the joint, or the Jordanians, or whoever else is going to do it for us.
It's so obvious, which is also the case...
It's taking forever.
It's also, yeah, well...
This is the problem.
This isn't go as planned.
Yeah.
I mean, if you listen to the Dave Clark 7, you end up with this...
Yeah, let's listen to the Wes Clark 7.
I like the Dave Clark 7 better.
So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan, I said, are we still going to war with Iraq?
And he said, oh, it's worse than that.
He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper, he said, I just...
He said, I just got this down from upstairs, meaning the Secretary of Defense Office today, and he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran.
You know what's crazy?
Even when these guys have the largest weapons manufacturing in the universe, when I say these guys, obviously go back to the Bushes and the Clintons, everybody, really.
And they set a plan, they got goals, you know, let's take out seven of these countries in five years, and now it's 15 years later!
They can't even do that right!
No.
Anyway, this true analysis...
And I think we've done a pretty good job.
Well, gee, you know, we actually read the document that everyone's talking about.
We've now deconstructed what the word enduring means.
This is not something you're going to get pretty much anywhere else as far as I'm concerned.
We're not going to get any of it.
Not on the daily.
It's not even possible.
No one can even do.
A couple of things we said in this discussion could not be even said on any other media outlet.
No.
Certainly not on the daily show.
Advertisers.
Yes.
And everyone should be really...
You know, we stopped talking about the daily show and the chat room kept going for 10 minutes.
I know.
The celebrity culture of the United States is disturbing.
There's nothing we can do about it.
And it's just the way it is.
And Jon Stewart's more of a celebrity than he is anything else.
And you have to remember, he's got like 12 writers.
Who listens to the show?
Jon Oliver's got like 8 to 12 writers on his one-half-hour, once-a-week show on Showtime.
And, you know, this is, and to create, you know, the celebrity of John Oliver, I'm sure he's, you know, he's the editor-in-chief of the editors of what's funny and what's not, but we don't do that.
We do all the work ourselves because you can't hire people to do this because nobody, you know, they're all, they figure they'll never get a job again.
I mean, I was like, the time I told that cute little correspondent that works at E! Networks when I was in Los Angeles, I was met up with some friends and she was there and we chatted.
I talked her into watching the show.
And she watched the show.
Listening to our show.
Listening to our show.
Right, listening.
Well, it's always kind of so visual the way we do it.
But yeah, it's listening.
I totally listened.
She listened to the show and couldn't even get through one episode.
I got my feedback from...
was she was afraid if she listened to the show, she'd be arrested.
Yeah.
Like what?
She couldn't listen to the show because she was fearful that someone would track her CD.
She couldn't even be tracked.
It was a CD. And she would be arrested because apparently the show, in her mind, she's British, Cockney.
The show is so subversive when it's not.
I mean, it's subversive to the mainstream media, but it's not subversive to reality or the truth.
It's so subversive that she would figure she'd be deported.
Well, anyway, that's the, but again, you know, that's what, you work for E. Let's thank a few people.
Well, I was going to thank you first for your courage, and I was going to say in the morning to you, John C., where the C stands for Celebrity Dvorak.
You were going to say in the morning?
Well, I want to say in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
Also, in the morning, all the ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, the subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
And in the morning to almost everybody in the chat room, noagendastream.com.
Except for that one dick.
There's always one guy who's like, Oh!
It's a thank you segment!
Time for a shower!
Such assholes.
Go take your shower.
I also want to thank our artist.
Martin J.J. had our artwork for episode 6, 9, or 4.
And I think, again, we went through a couple...
It's hard.
When you have a title, we try to make the title separate from the art or the opening clip.
And so Martin J.J. was definitely the best choice.
Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can find all of the artworks.
A lot of it also winds up in the newsletter.
And...
You can see it all at the art generator.
And it's good stuff.
And without that, our show would certainly not be as successful.
Proof.
We have proof of that.
I agree.
Nothing like some art to spice things up is important.
People should remember that.
I mean, you look at...
I don't want to call out any podcasting operation because you condemned me when I tried to play clips.
But there's a number of them and they have...
Their art is just the same stagnant thing forever.
Yeah, it's over and over.
And I always test, when I've published a show, I take my iPod Touch or my iPhone, I look at the podcast app, and then I can see the art changing, and I was looking at all the other things, like that Dvorak Horwitz Unplugged, same static art over and over again.
I have no idea.
Did you do that show anymore?
Well, there you have it.
I set myself up.
Yeah, you did.
Fool.
In fact, I was worried about it.
As I was saying it, I said, you know, this asshole is probably going to call me out for the show.
Uh-huh.
All right.
We want to thank a few people who profusely helped us.
Ryan Merritt, for starters, who's a knight now.
He's actually been a knight for a while, I believe.
I always call him.
I think I've been calling him Sir Ryan.
Hoboken, New Jersey.
Finally, he said he gave us $700.
He said, in the morning, boys, I'm a long-time listener, a long-time donator.
I've been donator-ing for roughly as long as I have been listening.
No details.
Unfortunately, I've also been a deadbeat in both the writing to the show along with my knighthood accounting.
Like a spoiled brat, I've kept the value-for-value exchange curt and superficial.
I throw in my more than fair share financially to keep the good stuff coming.
To continue the brat metaphor, my knighthood contribution amount is way flush enough to cover my knighting, but...
With the exact amount unknown to me.
It's just the nature of a relationship, the show, the time it goes on.
Okay.
With context summed up, let me say you two have the best delivery and the best info of any...
Stumbling over the words.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
You have the best delivery and the best info of any media outlet.
I'll say that again.
I'm so sick of all the super serious life or death alt media voices that result in such a heavy hearted sky is falling broken record of news.
You two dissect the disinfo perfect.
You both select and deconstruct the most significant angles and events with striking relevancy.
Your track record that is being built as we speak will one day hurl paralyzing fear into any and all politicians that receive your focus.
most importantly, deliver these truths with the moxie of a person who enjoys life every day and knows what it is, what it is, and none of us make it out of this thing alive.
So this is all one sentence, by the way.
So we all might as well chill the fuck out and take it like a bodice, you know what that is, that Indian term.
Nobody else appears to even be capable of thinking or attempting this.
This is true.
Thank you for all your hard work, Ryan Merritt.
Please knight me as Sir Smoke-a-Lot.
Smokes a lot.
And Adam, what happened to the meetup?
Yeah, well, the meetup, the weather messed up the meetup.
Sorry.
I'll come back.
I'll come back when it's a little warmer.
I'll come back.
There's always meetup issues.
I've always wanted to have a meetup at the train museum.
Roy Pierce in Fort Pierce, Florida, 334.
And he actually mailed the check-in.
No note.
He doesn't...
Sir speaks a lot.
I'm pretty sure it's Sir Roy Pierce, too.
Samir Bhatti in Langley, Berkshire, UK. 33334.
Four in the morning, all you courageous bastards out there.
This episode happens to fall on my birthday.
So what better way to celebrate than have you two schmucks in the no-agenda family and by my making another donation with more of that Langley money, which brings me up to knighthood.
Langley Berkshire, that is.
Do we have him on the Knights List?
Yeah, I think it's...
Let me check.
This will surely perk me up after having to look at myself in the mirror this morning and asking myself, where does the time go?
Soundboard requests as a slave of Gitmo East UK. I'd like Theresa May's powers we need clip.
To remind me how lovely my government can be, follow up that with Pigs in Human Clothing, which is from the anime called Kill a Kill, which I wholly recommend to anyone who likes crazy action and plot.
Finish it off with two clips of your choice, preferably something we don't hear often enough.
Hold on.
I was looking for if he's on the list.
He is on the list.
What did he want?
He wanted marching pigs, but before that, what did he want?
How much do we need?
Theresa May?
Yeah.
Okay.
And then a couple of you pick'ems.
And finish it off, two clips of your choice, a gourmet mac and cheese.
Finally, I like to be known as Sir Paranoid of My Android.
Okay.
Anything particularly you want?
You like ISIS in America, which is getting hotter, I think.
We're going to be talking about that more and more.
That would be my pick.
That would be your pick.
And then...
Let's play the new one.
Oh, the new one?
Okay.
Hold on a second.
Yep, the new one.
And here we go.
This legislation is important.
The substance is right, the time is right, and the way in which it has been developed is right.
It is a properly considered, thought-through set of proposals that will help to keep us safe at a time of very significant danger.
It has been drawn up in close consultation with the police and security services.
In an open and free society like ours, we can never entirely eliminate the threat from terrorism.
But we must do everything possible, consistent with our values as a country, to reduce the risk presented by our enemies.
It is a struggle that will go on for many years, and the threat we face right now is perhaps greater than it ever has been.
And we must have the powers we need, powers we need, powers we need to defend ourselves.
Fear is freedom.
Subjugation is liberation.
Contradiction is truth.
Those are the facts of this world, and you will all surrender to them.
You pigs in human clothing!
Ow!
ISIS.
Ow!
We will follow them to the gates of hell.
ISIS.
I feel good!
Oh, man.
We need to kill and bomb them.
Bomb them.
We need to kill and bomb them.
Bomb them.
We need to bomb them.
We need to kill them and bomb them again.
You've got karma.
Okay.
Not so many long ones in the future.
Yeah, that's too many.
That's too much.
Philippine, even though they did go together.
Philippine Vlasman Vinky.
Philippine Vlasman Finca.
Finca.
And Hulshurst.
Yeah.
Hillshorst.
Yes.
250.
Hey, dudes.
Hey.
You don't have to play jingles, though I love them.
Just knight me Dame Phil of Hollyhurst.
Oh.
And maybe one of the producers can help me out with the Freedom Controller.
I'd like to use this outstanding product to create content for my website like Adam does for the show notes.
Keep up the good work.
Philippines, send me a note and I'll get you an account.
So you can use this.
Thank you.
Stickton?
Is it Stickton?
I have Stickton, yeah.
Yeah, Stickton in Houston, Texas.
250.
And...
Note?
Any notes from his check?
No, but I thought there was somebody that left a note.
I'll go back to that.
What happened to your system?
Well, there was only one note, so the system doesn't apply.
Oh.
But I don't see any notes that says there was a note, and I put note...
So I don't see which one that is.
And it was anonymous.
There's an anonymous donation.
Maybe it's down further.
Because we have a lot of Valentine's things.
Anyway, Steve Roy, Stickton, Houston, Texas, $2.50.
Dean Roker in East Grinstead, West Sussex, $2.14.33.
Long-time listener, regular $5 a month donor.
Feel I could do more to support the best podcast in the universe.
My wife and I are expecting a new human resource any day now.
And also, in the process of trying to find a new house to raise our human resource...
We could use some karma to make both of these events happen quickly.
Could I have a MILF shout out for my wonderful wife, Simone, an LGY and karma shot, please?
I'm going to, going up, upping my $5 donor to $33 a month.
Thank you very much, sir.
MILF! That's one mother I'd like to.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
And now we have Dame Astrid Klein, and she did send a note, and you have it.
Viscountess of...
Viscountess of Tokyo.
I'm supposed to have this?
You don't have it?
Well, I have an email somewhere.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Well, I can get it quick.
I had closed my email, but I can certainly find it for you.
No, no, no, no.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
No, no, no, no, no.
Here it is, Valentine's.
John C. Devorak, where the C stands for Chick Magnet, and Adam C. Curry, where C stands for crystals.
I love you guys.
No, no, it says, I love you guys, is what she says.
I love you guys, and big giant type.
In Japan, Valentine's Day is not reciprocal.
I put this in the newsletter.
In the newsletter, yeah.
But I'm going to read it anyway because it's supposed to be read.
In Japan, Valentine's Day is not reciprocal.
Only women express their love and appreciation in the shape of chocolate towards their men and their lives.
This extends beyond the romantic man to all-male, male friends, even the boss.
So in two weeks leading up to the Valentine's Day, department store food halls turn into chocolate malls with hordes of frenzied women frantically looking for just the right chocolates.
Wow.
Sounds like a winner.
Men in return are supposed to show their appreciation on March 14th, a day called White Day, when white chocolates or other white items, of course, by then it's mostly forgotten and we women once again feel gypped.
She writes gypped as J-I-P-P-E-D. I looked it up.
It's actually legal.
Oh, so that's much better than gypped G-Y-P. Yeah, but if you look it up, the definition of J-I-P-P-E-D is the same.
It's an insult to the gypsies.
If only I could find a Viscountess for myself in Japan, I would be set for life.
Viscountesses are required to drink tea with their pinky extended.
And we will be investigating if you do this.
We will be checking with Viscountess inspectors.
Make sure you do this.
Thank you, Daymaster.
That's very good.
Baron Borislav Marinov.
Oh, man.
Any more?
That's the note.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
There you go.
Yeah, that's what I was doing, obviously.
And in the red corner, wearing the black trunks with gold trim, he has a record of 33 wins, zero losses, and one draw.
He's the Grand Duke of Belgium and France, Sir Steven von Hellsmoker!
All right.
Steven Pelsmacher, sir.
Yes.
214 in Belgium.
Grand Duke of Belgium and France, as a matter of fact.
Happy Valentine's Day, especially my dear friend CV, who is in desperate need of a good divorce karma.
We've got divorce karma coming.
Yep.
So that she may walk away safely from the douchebag she's with and find a better life with a much better man.
Oh, wow.
And lots of good karma to the producers and creators of the BPITU. Best podcast in the universe.
Just keep up the fantastic job.
Thank you so much, Grand Duke.
He is the man.
I'll do this for him.
Douchebag.
Karma.
That's the divorce the douchebag karma.
Oh, God.
All right.
Dave Bozeman in Wilmington, North Carolina, 214.
No note.
Karen Van Heitzma in Omaha, Nebraska, 214.
Thanks to my cousin Paul who kept hounding me.
There's another note that was in the newsletter.
Thanks to my cousin Paul who kept hounding me to listen to your podcast.
I finally did, and I'm hooked!
Thank you, Adam and John, for voicing what I've been thinking all along.
Ah, let's write down her name in case one of us dies.
She might be a good replacement.
This is my first donation.
She doesn't voice though.
She just stinks.
This is my first donation but following your value for value model.
You owe me some more value so make sure the show stays at three hours.
Thanks for all your time and thought.
Already demanding.
Which is fine.
Gerald Howard in Montclair, New Jersey 214.
The Valentine donation for my fiance Dawn.
D-A-W-N. Easily the coolest person I know.
I love her to the moon and back.
Please put her on the birthday list as well, Friday the 13th, and give her some birthday karma.
Jingle request, just take your medicine, just take your meds slave.
Okay.
You've got karma.
*music* I haven't heard that one in a while.
I like that one.
It's a good one.
Christopher Dechter in Richland, Washington, 214.
John, I don't have a note, Chris.
You can always send us another email if you send one.
John Porter in Paisley, UK. I didn't know there was a town called Paisley, which is interesting to me.
Yeah, there is.
214.
My beautiful wife, Andrea, haven't donated for a while, so cleared out PayPal.
Thank you.
Which, by the way, people should just do that.
You guys deserve it.
Thank you for your courage.
John Porter.
Is your window open now or the fan?
No, nothing's changed.
I haven't moved a thing.
Why is it making a buzzing sound?
I just see it in the background.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
It's good.
Just a production notice.
Jason Kirk in Williamsport, PA. 214.
Uh, hold on a second.
Yeah, I'm missing a few monitors when I do this on the road, so it just takes me a second.
It was, uh, well, I'm sorry, what was it?
Thank you, man.
Oh, no, I know what I'm missing.
Boom shakalaka LGY Karma.
Got it, got it.
Okay.
All right, got it.
Here we go.
Boom shakalaka!
Boom shakalaka!
Yay!
You've got karma.
Sorry, took me a minute.
Yep.
Alright, now, Opera Ghost from Parts Unknown 214.
I have a note, a handwritten note, which is going to be difficult.
Eh, not too hard to read, but he's a knight.
I'll mention that.
But he's really paranoid, and I can see why, by the way.
I've been in the nature of interviewing while holding a job.
I asked to be kept anonymous.
I started listening to the show about a year ago, and I've been hooked since.
If not for your analysis, I'd still be a net neutrality zombie.
Mm-hmm.
Worried about the fast lanes or the slow lanes.
Someone sent me a link to the Verge cast.
I'm on a tear about these guys because they're arrogant.
Oh, yeah.
So, Nilay Patel, and they do this podcast, and they're very funny, and they all talk through each other.
Okay, we have to talk about the...
And he talks about how crazy it is, about lawful devices connected.
That's old school.
But he's all for this fantastic, great, they're going to do this.
Finally, we'll have net neutrality.
And he's a lawyer who doesn't even pause to look at the wording of lawful content.
But then somewhere in like, and I had to listen to this whole thing.
Well, I think maybe that was Leo was talking about lawful, but they won't really do that.
No, that's just for porn.
Yeah, okay, fine.
It's just for porn.
Yeah, it's just for porn.
Okay, good.
I'm making this $214 donation to display my love for the woman I've been with for six years and counting.
Yeah, one more to go.
She is my inamortata or something.
I don't know what that means.
And I love her with all my heart and soul.
She doesn't listen to the show.
But I hope the small expression of my love can be one more reason to get her to listen.
This was the whole point with these Valentine's Day donations.
I love that we got it from our Viscount.
We got some real love from her.
And this is love for his woman.
I expected a little more of that.
I request to interview karma for myself and job karma for those who need it.
And thank you both for your deconstructions.
And I wish a happy Valentine's Day to both of you.
Oh, thank you very much.
And to come up with a combination of funny jingles for Adam to play.
Let's just play the karma.
I think karma will be good.
Is there something we need?
I think we're overdue for a mac and cheese jingle.
Oh, yes.
Okay, mac and cheese.
Always fun.
You slaves can get used to mac and cheese.
Mac and cheese.
Mac and cheese.
Macaroni and cheese.
Cheddar melted together.
Mac and cheese.
You've got karma.
You know a jingle we haven't played for a while?
No.
And I don't think you can even find it.
It's the Manamana song.
Oh, was that it?
That somebody put together.
Yeah, but that had a different name.
I don't know what the name of the song is.
Manamana, well...
Yeah, it's a good one.
I don't know.
A little challenge.
We haven't played that forever.
And finally, Claudia Gerber, who I don't think I have a note from.
Let me look.
And she's in Lisbon, Ohio.
$200.
And she finishes off the collection here, which has great producers, associate executive producers and executive producers.
Claudia.
C-L-A-U-D. Well, while you're looking for that, I do have one quick additional PR mention, which you'd like to do in this segment.
This is from Ramsey Cain.
Of course, you know, we have the new No Agenda CD. He says there's a companion disc.
There's a companion disc to the previous disc, which was the International Update.
This one is called, creatively, Domestic Update.
So please remind people that CDs are also available as a podcast.
That's right.
You can grab them from iTunes or the podcast app.
And also noagendacd.com is where you can find the link to that.
And he said, Oh, he died last night.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Of course, other side karma.
It's going to be nothing but virgins.
You've got karma.
Good times.
Sorry about that, Ramsey.
That's what you want.
Other side karma.
That's what it is.
May your other side be groovalicious.
All right.
Give Claudia and the other people who left no notes a shot at karma, and we'll close this segment.
Good idea.
You've got karma.
I want to remind people...
Sorry?
I was going to throw the plug in before you threw the jingle on me, which is to remind people that we do a show on Sunday and we always...
It's a short part of the week.
It was a good segment of people that wanted double producership, so they came with $214 and Sunday will be the Valentine's Day show.
Remind you to go to Dvorak.org slash NA. Yeah, thank you very much.
To all of these associate executive producers and executive producers, they are real credits.
Happy to vouch for you if anyone asks you about that.
Dvorak.org slash NA. And of course, everybody out there can always do one thing, which is propagating the formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Shut up, slave.
Shut up, slave.
Nice.
Thank y'all.
Beautiful.
Beautiful.
So there were a number of different things that were kind of going on.
I found this to be interesting.
You know how the meme is pro-Russian separatists.
Pro-Russian fighters.
Pro-Russian.
That is the meme.
Pro-Russian.
And as we are now...
That's what it's all about.
Right.
Well, of course, this is a proxy war, and if you look at what's really happening in Ukraine, the Ukrainian government is filled with shills, most notably the finance minister who was given a passport overnight, and she's an American hedge fund manager, and she's ransacking the funds.
So now where this talk has been ongoing talk, but now there is very serious talk of arming the Ukrainian forces.
Arming.
Which is code for, let's send some troops in and go kill the pro-Russians.
But CNN messed it up, or maybe the chyron they threw up, which it wasn't just a lower third, like the crawl.
It was a true lower third, not like the crawl they have at the bottom.
And it was so bad that people started noticing the way it was characterized.
And Carol, CarolCNN, Facebook.com slash CarolCNN, she had to apologize for this gaffe.
Yesterday we ran a story about the debate among Western leaders about whether to send arms to Ukraine.
During that segment, our banner mistakenly said, Obama considers arming pro-U.S. troops.
The debate in Western capitals is actually about whether the United States and other NATO countries should send arms to the Ukrainian military, which is trying to protect its territory from separatists, whom the government in Kiev says are backed by Russia.
The recipients of any military equipment and aid would be the national military of Ukraine, certainly not pro-U.S. troops.
I regret that error.
I regret that error.
Yeah, you should.
That's a beauty.
That's borderline clip of the day.
That is a fine gaffe.
Isn't that just crazy?
Somebody back in the back room said, this is bull crap.
We're putting this up.
Yeah, pro-U.S. troops.
Jeez.
But that's the truth.
Finally, there was some truth, and now they have to go all apologize for it.
Well, here I got a clip with McCain promoting weapons to Ukraine.
Yeah.
Yeah, this is his thing.
This is his baby.
McCain's all over this.
Well, he set the whole thing up.
Him and Noodleman.
This is their thing.
Republican Senator John McCain, who chairs the Armed Services Committee, argued that arming Ukrainian troops will aid diplomacy.
Oh, yeah!
He helped Ukrainians increase the military cost to the Russian forces that have invaded their country How long can Putin sustain a war that he tells his people is not happening?
That's why we must provide defensive arms to Ukraine.
In eastern Ukraine...
Whoa!
Whoa!
Did they just rip an explosion or a jet blasting off?
What the heck was that?
They showed...
Oh my god.
I'm going to roll it back.
I want to hear it again.
Yeah, they show a bunch of rockets going...
It's like you see a shot and there's a bunch of rockets shooting off to the left and another shot with a bunch of rockets shooting off to the right.
So that's the kind of arms they're talking about?
This is not RPG? This is actual...
Are these ballistic missiles that are firing off?
Do you think we've got to bin like about 16 rockets with a bunch of holes in a device and they shoot all these rockets at once?
Those things.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, the array on top of the truck.
Yeah, the array.
Defensive lines to Ukraine.
In eastern Ukraine today, fighting raged again as the two sides fired rocket barrages at each other.
Way to go.
We want more of that.
So I have a little clip that talks a little bit.
This came from RT, I believe.
The standing in line clip, it says.
Which is a clip that shows all these guys coming out.
We got our arm, we got our arm, we got our arm.
It sounds to me as if they got plenty of arms on both sides.
They're shooting at each other.
And this is from when, this clip?
This is from a week ago.
Oh, okay.
Russia continues to escalate the conflict.
Russia and the separatists are seizing more territory.
Terrorizing more citizens.
As you know, the Russians have continued to supply heavy equipment, tanks, armored personnel carriers, artillery.
Aggressive actions we have seen of Russia in Ukraine.
Russia's aggression against Ukraine is a heinous and deadly affront.
Facing such accusations, Russia's foreign minister says it's a trend to blame Moscow without presenting any solid evidence.
In every destabilizing situation, our U.S. partners blame Russia.
The U.S. says it has evidence against Russia without specifying what it is.
That statement came during the Munich Security Conference on Saturday, where the Ukrainian crisis dominated.
Peter Oliver has the details.
Thank you very much.
the east of the country.
This demilitarized zone of around 50 to 70 kilometers.
Also coming out from this is a want for more autonomy for these self-proclaimed republics.
Now, Francois Hollande was saying that these people had been at war for so long that they needed to have this level of autonomy if they were ever to try and let these wounds heal, to try and get back to some kind of semblance of peace.
Russia has said that it is willing to act as a guarantor for any agreement that can be made between those self-proclaimed republics in eastern Ukraine and Kiev.
And there's some, I have a background to this.
I have been looking quite a bit at what's going on.
These Normandy talks were interesting between Vladimir Putin, Angela Merkel, Francois Hollande, and Petra Polisenko.
I'm trying to do all the accents.
So they have this big conference, which we really weren't in.
I thought it was Minsk.
It's about the Minsk agreement.
Oh, I thought they were in Minsk.
I could be wrong.
I thought they were in Normandy, quite honestly.
Oh, I'm sorry.
It's my mistake.
It's the Normandy format talks.
I'm sorry.
It's a format.
No idea what that means.
But Putin did make a statement for the press.
Why don't you do that?
It is about the Minsk agreement, which is in Minsk, where they agreed to stop killing each other.
Here is Putin's statement for the press, which I think warrants reading, since no one else will tell you what he said.
And he speaks Russian, so who understands this crap?
We proceed from the notion that all parties will show restraint until the complete ceasefire.
The problem here was that representatives of the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics claimed that in response to the aggressive actions of the Kiev or Kiev authorities, they not only held back the Kiev forces, but also managed to mount an offensive that surrounded a group of 6,000 to 8,000 servicemen. but also managed to mount an offensive that surrounded a They, of course, proceeded from the idea that this group will lay down arms and stop its resistance.
We nevertheless call on both sides to show restraint and in order to avoid unnecessary excessive bloodshed and casualties, So he's talking about rebels that he has nothing to do with.
This is how he's third person.
They should do everything to ensure that the separation of forces, mainly the heavy equipment, is conducted without unnecessary bloodshed.
Representatives of the Ukrainian authorities believe their troops have not been surrounded and therefore think this process will go sufficiently smoothly.
I have some initial doubts that I can share with you.
If the troops really had been surrounded, then logically they will try to break free, while those who are on the outside will try to arrange a corridor for their trapped servicemen.
Here's Putin saying, you're full of crap.
Eventually, we agreed with President Poroshenko that we will instruct our experts, and I'm ready to do so, to establish what is actually going on there.
In addition, I will repeat, we will try to develop a set of measures to verify the implementation of our decisions by both sides.
I would like to call on both conflicting parties once again to stop the bloodshed as soon as possible and proceed to a truly political process of long-term settlement.
Thank you for your attention and for your courage.
And so what I feel...
Here is Putin being more honest than we are, really, about Russia's role in what is going on with equipment and troops.
But he's also saying, hey, our guys, if we put them in there, they're not our guys, because we're not pussies.
If they were our guys, we'd shoot our way out.
And we'd have people come from the outside to break open a corridor.
But he is pretty much saying, we'll put our experts in and figure out what really happened here.
Which is completely contrary to the United States position, which is that of lying and setting everybody up and screwing the whole place.
Well, that's because we said the whole thing is a scam that we started.
And really nothing good is coming out of this for us.
It's just a waste at this point.
It really truly is a waste.
The president had Angela Merkel over.
She has to have the English translated.
I find that interesting.
I don't know many Germans who can't at least speak some.
She doesn't like...
I don't know, maybe she can't elucidate certain things.
There's maybe some more complex things you can only explain in German.
So here is...
I didn't clip this...
But here's how our president speaks.
With regard to Russia and the separatists it supports in Ukraine, it's clear that they have violated just about every commitment they made in the Minsk agreement.
Instead of withdrawing from eastern Ukraine, Russian forces continue to operate there.
This is a blatant accusation, which is not proven.
Training separatists in helping to coordinate attacks.
Oh, well, that's kind of what we do, I think.
Instead of withdrawing its arms, Russia has sent in more tanks and armored personnel carriers and heavy artillery.
With Russian support, the separatists have seized more territory and shelled civilian areas, destroyed villages, and driven more Ukrainians from their homes.
These are the facts!
you Thank you.
All right, here's a Normandy format.
It's hard to explain.
Okay.
And there's no definition.
There's no wiki page on it.
But it's apparently when you get the presidents, the top people, and you push them into a room or through a series of phone conversations.
A phone booth?
In other words, you have Merkel, Hollande, Putin, and if he was involved, Obama would be there as opposed to John Kerry showing up with the meeting.
There's only the top guys.
Right.
Here is the piece that was most disturbing to me that I came across.
And of course, because I grew up there and I speak the language, it's easy for me to receive these messages and people happy to tell me what's going on.
So Malaysia Air MH17, which was downed, would be the proper...
Are you changing the topic?
No, it's about Russia.
Oh, okay, because I have one more clip.
Yeah, this is about Russia.
This was the Malaysian air, which contained mainly Dutch passengers, which was downed because we were told it was shot by a Russian...
Russian separatists using Russian gear.
Yeah.
We also heard that it was actually a Russian guy operating it.
And of course we deconstructed very differently about some electronic warfare.
And it looks like there was spoofing going on.
It looks like there was a Ukraine jet, Ukrainian jet that shot them down.
Well, um, finally the Netherlands who's been running lead on a lot of this investigation of the has, wait a minute, stop.
Well, why don't we just look at the data in the black box?
Oh, well, I'm so glad you said that John, because they have now released their report with 254 documents.
Regarding everything they know about the black box, that would be the flight data recorder, voice cockpit recorder, not much on that.
They have 254 documents, the Dutch government.
89 of those will not be released to the public.
Wait, why?
Because that is not necessary for us to know.
Don't you find that suspicious?
It was only necessary for internal discussion.
Maybe it's just boring is what you're saying.
I think, yeah, it must have been boring.
Okay.
So 254 documents, 89 will not be released.
19 of these documents are being released.
And they're pretty much black.
Everything, these huge entire pages have been redacted with black documents.
And I'm translating on the fly.
Some of the information in these documents that have been redacted and not released at all might have been seen as provocative towards other players, i.e.
Russia, in the entire conflagration.
And therefore, the citizens of family members who have perished really will not know what happened.
Because it's so secret that we have to withhold all this information.
Because Russia didn't do it.
Well, it seems to me the logic is missing here.
The logic, we already have blamed Russia, and everybody thinks Russia did it, and all the official announcement is that Russia or their stooges in the separatist movement, the pro-Russian troops, did it with a rocket launcher that's Russian, and We already have that.
So now, if this information is confirming that Russia did it, then it would be a plus for the people against Russia in this regard.
Now, if they're blocking it out because they don't want to provoke people against Russia, what sense does that make?
Or maybe it says, gee, it was shot out of the sky and there's now a Ukrainian pilot.
I have no proof of this, but the stories are out there.
Ukrainian pilot who landed with his, I forget what aircraft it was, without his missiles.
He left with him, but he came back without him, which was some problematic in the accounting department.
So, I'm sure it does not say that Russia was directly responsible.
That's just a logical conclusion.
But where are the Dutch?
Are they out in the street revolting and pissed off about this?
No, of course not, because they need to shut up.
Because the Dutch economy runs on Russian resources.
And then finally, for...
Russia...
Cyprus apparently has now given Russia access to its ports, its airstrips.
The Russian military will be using Cyprus as a base.
Of course, the Russians were already in Cyprus to an extreme before all this crap.
Right.
Well, if you look at now the...
So we finally know the Turkish stream, which formerly South Stream...
But before we go away from the war here...
I'm sorry.
Well, I was a part of it.
Yeah, okay, go ahead.
Please.
I did want to mention, since we're still talking about arming both sides, or arming one side or the other, and McCain being behind it, I think I found a clip that is, for all practical purposes, this clip indicts the United States for using cluster bombs, which is...
Forbidden.
Against international law.
Yes.
Now, the Ukraine folks have been using cluster bombs on these people down in Donetsk, in that area.
And, of course, they should be taken to international criminal court.
But McCain has a whole rationale here.
Why it's good?
He's going to say it's good?
Yeah.
Well, it's kind of a twisted logic, but it's definitely worth listening to.
This guy is fantastic.
Now again this week we've seen the skies over Donetsk.
It's suspected that it could be incendiary munitions which international conventions ban from use in civilian populated areas.
Back in July they were reportedly dropped on cities controlled by anti-government forces.
Well, international observers have previously caught the Ukrainian army using prohibited weapons.
The use of cluster bombs in populated areas was confirmed by the human's right in October.
The watchdog's report stressed this could amount to war crimes.
But for some US politicians, Kiev's use of cluster bombs is justifiable.
I think that if we would have provided them with the weapons they need, they wouldn't have had to use cluster bombs.
It's partially our fault.
Who makes the cluster bombs?
It's our fault.
We didn't give him the right bombs.
He says it's our fault.
We should be indicted.
And we didn't give him the right bombs.
We didn't arm them.
Who makes cluster bombs?
I think...
I don't know who makes them.
I'm sure one of the U.S. companies makes them.
They're not Chinese.
Somebody makes them.
It's a good question.
Who makes cluster bombs?
Let's find out.
I'm looking at cluster munition.
It's the same thing.
I think BAE. Chatroom's saying BAE Systems.
Development.
Hmm.
I'm going to look at the wiki.
I think Microsoft probably makes them.
Microsoft makes them.
Alright, so while you're doing that, I will talk about it relates to Greece and Cyprus.
We now have seen the big meeting with Gazprom and the Turkish Minister for Energy and Natural Resources, and they have decided where the new Black Sea natural gas pipeline, which was going to be the South Stream, which now will be the Turkey Stream, I think that's a code name for it, where it will come in, and more importantly, where it will flow out.
And it looks like Greece is the target.
And also, they're still looking at the trans-Balkan gas pipelines.
2016.
December 2016 is when this will be done.
And it will be huge.
Huge, huge, huge.
63 billion cubic meters a year.
Hmm.
Well, there's something else going on in Greece.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a lot going on, actually, in Greece.
Did you?
Yes, well, that's true.
But did you get to hear...
The IMF chief...
What's her name?
Lagarde?
Fifi Lagarde?
Fifi Lagarde?
No.
His comments?
No.
It was kind of interesting.
I don't know who these were aimed at, but I'm guessing Germany.
Do you have Fifi's?
Let's see.
Let me guess.
Greece?
Greece rap.
Another momentous meeting played out in Brussels as European finance ministers focused on Greece and its debt.
When it was over, the two sides disagreed on whether they'd made any progress.
But earlier, the head of the International Monetary Fund, Christine Lagarde, said she would consider the Greek government's ideas for renegotiating a bailout deal.
They are absolutely competent, intelligent.
They've thought about their issues.
We have to listen to them.
We have to start working together.
And it's a process that's starting, and it's going to last a certain time.
Greece's current bailout ends on February 28th.
So here's the way I heard what went down.
We had German finance minister Schobell Showable.
Then he was meeting with...
People are now telling me, the finance minister for Greece, the guy that we were laughing at, that he might actually be a good guy.
And I'm willing to accept that, of course.
That's possible.
Whenever we see an American-educated shill, we kind of have to chuckle.
Who kind of looks like a gangster.
Kind of.
He actually looks like a hitman.
I like that part of him, to be honest.
I think that's cool.
Can you imagine if Cohen, our treasury secretary, looked like a gangster?
He doesn't.
He looks like a pussy.
Jack Lew?
Yeah.
No, not Jack Lew.
No, I thought...
Oh, no, Cohen is...
You're right, Jack Lew.
He looks like a pussy, too.
They all look like pussies.
So they had this big meeting, and the idea was that they had an agreement, and I think what happened is Schobel left after six hours of meeting, and then Faroufakis, I don't know if that's the way to pronounce it, I said, you know what?
Yeah, we're not going to sign any agreement.
Screw that.
We want to just bust this thing open.
And then all of a sudden we see that Russia might bail out Greece, which would make a lot of sense.
Or, and this is just what I love, you know, I love this kind of story, that the BRICS collectively might say, you know what?
Greece, you should use this SDR thing.
That, I think, would be pretty cool if that happened.
Huh.
I haven't seen a lot of stories, but I like the idea of just bringing them right into the fold.
Bring bricks into the...
Bring grease into the bricks.
Let them use the bricks, gold and whatever, basket-backed SDR. What difference does it make?
Well, they can use anything, I guess, if they really decide to leave the Eurozone.
Yeah, that's true.
But they're not going to leave the Eurozone.
That's not going to happen.
I think everyone's agreed on that, including the Greece.
But they're definitely doing some deals outside that will help them pay.
It's going to be a mess.
Well, someone is offering them a good deal.
There's no other reason, would Fifi say, yeah, no, we're willing to talk about that.
So they finally have the SSM, the Single Stability Mechanism, For the European banking sector, they have the banking union.
No one is accepting Greece's bonds anymore.
There's nothing.
It's toxic, toxic, even though they're Euro-backed, Euro-based.
I don't think the Euro-controlled banks can really do anything at this point.
Because then they would have to do this for everybody.
You know that if they do it, Italy will be like, hello, Spain, Portugal.
Someone has to put the hammer down on it.
Otherwise, it will crumble very quickly, I think.
Not being an economist or anything.
Anyway, the cluster bomb is the rock guy.
And you cannot find a manufacturer.
I look in a page...
After Pace, they talk about the thing in great detail, but they don't say where you can go buy one.
It's an American-made, though.
We know that.
There's a bunch of them.
There's a CBU-84.
Oh, well, that sounds like an American-made thing.
They're all American-made.
Yeah.
Well...
If they're illegal by international law...
Well, they're apparently illegal to drop them into a civilian area.
They're used legally as anti-armor weapons.
So you drop one near a tank or a group of tanks and it takes most of them out.
Right, right.
And here's another one.
It's an anti-runway cratering bomb.
It just blows up a bunch of holes all over the place.
Oh, nice.
Ruins the airports.
Good stuff.
Good stuff.
Now, we've got some great ideas.
But I can't find the manufacturer unless there's a company named Rock Eye, which I don't think so.
Anyway, well, somebody will get it to us.
Oh, no doubt.
No doubt.
In the email.
Somebody who works there.
Yeah.
Hey, we may be selling a lot of these things recently.
Would you like a sample pack?
Actually, a little model for your desk would be cool.
A little bitty mini one.
Okay.
Yeah, so that's kind of what I have.
Well, the 28th is when something has to change.
But guaranteed, default is just not an option.
This month is going to finish off with a bang.
There's a number of things expiring, including the Greek deal.
We have the end of the six-week cycle, which means something should happen around the last February 1st of August.
Well, by seeing as we have the FBI counterterrorism assistant director talking about not having all of these, not tracking every citizen's free travel movement, I would say we need something to get that going for the next six-week cycle.
Strike by the FBI. That would be good.
Something that we can then move towards.
You have to register when you go somewhere.
This is already kind of happening.
You have to log.
Yes.
Citizen, where's your log from your travels?
Citizen, where's your smartwatch that logs everything?
Citizen, where's your Fitbit?
You watch.
I found this interesting.
I just stumbled onto this.
This is about Brian Williams.
You don't want to talk about it.
Yeah, I do.
I do.
Here's the one I want to play.
This is Rachel Maddow giving a little rundown on it.
And I want to remind people the reason why we are talking about this is this is interesting.
This does show you really how corrupt it is, and I think it's just hilarious what is going on, which I will go back and say, the network wars is now for sure a part of this.
Well, not only that, but CBS just lost its longtime foreign correspondent on a freak accident.
Yeah, they killed him.
They killed that guy with an Uber.
So he's dead, and then Williams is out, and this is all ABC. If we're going to go to that theory, which I'm going to go to, because they're the ones who busted Disney.
I mean, it's the other two networks, so now they're in trouble.
But this is Rachel Maddow, who I believe really thinks to herself that she's more important than she really is.
And she calls out her own bosses in this report.
Because she can, because she apparently runs...
She's an idiot.
...and the suspension is severe and appropriate.
Brian's life's work is delivering the news.
I know Brian loves his country, NBC News, and his colleagues.
Hold on, I've just got to stop for a second.
His life's work is delivering the news, like a paperboy.
Let's just be honest about what we're talking about.
A guy who reads the news.
Brian's life's work is delivering the news.
I know Brian loves his country, NBC News, and his colleagues.
He deserves a second chance and we are rooting for him.
Brian has shared his deep remorse with me and he is committed to winning back everyone's trust.
What does rooting for him mean?
When your kid lies, do you then say, you know what, kid, I'm grounding you, but I'm rooting for you, kid.
I'm rooting for you.
It's crazy.
Again, that statement from Steve Burke, who's the head of NBCUniversal.
But again, the breaking news tonight, NBC News announced tonight that Nightly News anchor and managing editor Brian Williams suspended without pay for six months.
Woo!
And here's the awkward part for us.
I said at the top this was a little awkward.
Here's why this is awkward for us on this show and for me as its anchor.
So we are MSNBC. The NBC in that.
We are legion.
That means that we operate under the NBC umbrella.
And there's a good reason why you see so many faces from NBC News on our air.
It's because we really are working partners with them.
We are working partners.
We're a partner organization with them.
Like al-Qaeda.
Within the news division.
But tonight, even as we are reporting on this breaking news about the news division of which we are a part...
No, NBC News will not make anyone available to discuss this story with us on the air.
Now, that may change in days ahead.
You'd think that if they're going to talk to anybody about this, we might reasonably get a leg up on getting interviews with any NBC News executives to explain this decision, if only because we're right down the hall.
But so far, no one.
Okay.
All right.
Well, thank you.
We didn't need that.
I hate Rachel Maddow.
She is a horrible person.
And now she works for him.
What is the point of that even bringing it up?
Distraction.
I'll tell you.
I have three quick clips in succession to show you what is going on here.
The fear of God has been put into everybody.
The fear of God.
Let's start first by listening to Brian Williams' replacement, Lester.
And now to the story many of you are talking about tonight, and one that for us not only hits close to home, but in our home.
Brian Williams, anchor and managing editor of Nightly News, has been suspended by NBC management for six months without pay.
In a statement, NBC News President Debra Turner said on Friday, January 30th, Brian misrepresented events which occurred while he was covering the Iraq War in 2003.
It then became clear, she says, that on other occasions, Brian had done the same while telling that story in other venues.
She adds this was wrong and completely inappropriate for someone in Brian's position.
In a statement NBCUniversal CEO Steve Burke said by his actions, Brian has jeopardized the trust millions of Americans place in NBC News.
Apparently they made someone available for NBC News, just not for Rachel Maddow.
But he added, Brian deserves a second chance, and we are rooting for him.
We're rooting for him!
She used the same term.
Now, if I may, on a personal note, say it is an enormously difficult story to report.
No, it's not.
It's a lying sack of shit.
Brian is a member of our family, but so are you, our viewers.
And we will work every night to be worthy of your trust.
Okay.
I find this beautifully funny.
And now we have the Today Show.
Everyone has to do this, and it's going to become very apparent why everyone is rooting for you.
Oh, yeah.
So this is Al Roker and Savannah Guthrie.
Woody Guthrie's daughter, and all the people.
I think we all are feeling it is a difficult day here, and we are certainly sharing our best wishes with Brian.
Best wishes, like he has cancer.
We certainly share best wishes with you.
We're sorry your child has cancer, Brian.
The guy lied!
Oh, it's a tough day.
It's a very hard day.
I know why it's a hard day.
It's a tough time for him.
His family is devastated.
We hope and pray for the best.
There are two parts to it.
There's professional and personal.
Professional and personal.
Of course.
I agree with, I think, the decision on the professional angle.
You cannot mislead.
This is what we do.
Truth and transparency is our trade.
Truth and transparency is our trade, John.
Ha ha ha!
I think our show over the last seven years has proved that's not true.
Truth and transparency.
It's our trade.
It's our wampum.
On the other hand, Brian's a friend of ours.
We'll be transparent about that, too.
We like Brian a whole lot.
Yeah, I fucked him.
Yeah.
Have you been there for Thanksgiving?
I don't think so.
Have you been to his house for dinner?
Have you been there for Thanksgiving?
That's a friend, otherwise just an acquaintance.
He's dying a whole lot.
A frenemy.
And this is a job he's wanted all his life, and a job he's been great at, and now something that's been taken away from him.
I'm telling you, it's like a cancer.
This is what he wanted all his life and has been taken away from him.
I completely understand the professional angle of it.
He did something he shouldn't have done, but we hurt for our friend.
Absolutely.
He's a good guy.
He's done a lot of good for good people as well.
Yeah.
Now I'm going to tell you what the problem is.
Everybody knows.
And I've said this, and you disagreed with me, but these people, they all are lying all the time about, well, we know they're lying with whatever they're reading as the news, but they have embellished, they have made themselves look good, and this is Scarborough.
On the Morning Joe show, who is so afraid that he now even takes it one step further.
Brian Williams, did he make one mistake, John?
Was it one mistake?
No, he made a bunch of mistakes.
Like what else?
In this case, he's not being suspended without pay, but for one thing, for the helicopter story, right?
Right.
And he did that story at least three times.
Now, listen to Scarborough, who himself is so afraid of being found out, he's pretty much pleading, saying...
You know, you have to give people a second chance if they make a couple mistakes.
They were bad mistakes.
And guess what?
And he would say that?
Guess what?
Guess what?
He says that.
We all make bad mistakes.
I just, you know, one of the things, one of the verses in the Bible that always...
He's going to quote scripture now.
Now he's going to the Bible?
Scripture.
Always.
Because don't fire me when you find out how I'm a lying sack.
The Bible says so.
Makes me a little nervous before I start judging other people is the one that says that you will be judged and you will be given the mercy that you show others.
I think we should all step back and ask whether we are so perfect that we want to be the ones to cast that first stone.
Let he who is out sin cast the first stone.
I'm in no position.
What?
This is an admission.
Listen, he's saying it right now.
He's in no position.
Cast that first stone.
Let the he who is out sin cast the first stone.
I'm in no position to cast the first stone.
And quite frankly, in over a decade in this news business, it is fair to say, looking straight into the camera, I've seen a lot.
I know a lot.
And I know about you, colleagues, so don't try and out me because I'm looking into the camera and I'm saying I've seen a lot.
I know a lot.
Don't fun with me.
And I know that there are very few people in this industry or in politics that could live by the standard of perfection.
Cast the first stone, I would be careful.
I think right now, the entirety of everything that Brian has done, including the Peabody Awards that he won for his remarkable...
Katrina coverage should be taken into effect and people should consider, again, the totality of a man's life and not one or two mistakes.
Not only is he afraid, but he is threatening people by saying, I am looking straight into the camera.
And I know a lot.
I've seen a lot.
Whether you're a news or a politician, I would not cast the first stone, which is in the scripture somewhere.
I'm not quite sure exactly what verse that might be, but I know it's a Bible thingy because the president used it the other day.
I find this is...
They are afraid, man.
People are afraid of being...
Well, that's because they're all full of crap.
Here's one.
February 6th.
I read it as a little test earlier.
NBC story.
100% fraudulent.
February 4th.
NBC News.
This is a...
Yeah, it ran a story.
This was in February during the Sochi Olympics in 2014.
It ran a story claiming that if you bring your mobile phone, we talked about this, or laptop to the Sochi Olympics, it'll immediately be hacked.
We mocked this story.
The moment you turn it on, the story was fabricated.
The technical details relate to going to the Olympics in cyberspace, visiting websites, and not going there in person and using their local Wi-Fi.
Yeah, but they didn't get rid of Engel.
The story shows Richard Engel getting hacked while in a cafe in Russia.
And then the details were they weren't in Sochi, they were in Moscow a thousand miles away.
The hack happens because the website they visited, not their physical location.
The results would have been the same in America.
The phone didn't get hacked.
Richard Engel initiated the download of a hostile Android app.
It goes on.
But what's Engel still doing there?
That's a complete...
NBC's got all kinds of problems.
But no, this was to get rid of Brian Williams as part of a scheme.
They knew this was going on.
He could be doing an MTV spring break?
He might end up doing that.
I want to put down the red book he's going to commit suicide.
I think that's...
I think it's too easy to write that down, but...
I did.
I wrote it down.
Do you think he'll be suicide, really?
Just a long shot.
I'm putting LS near it.
A long shot.
And thank you, Producer Mike.
The Cluster Bombs Honeywell MK20, made by Honeywell.
Oh, Honeywell.
Boy, they sure kept their name out of all these stories.
Yeah, but you know Hollywood, Honeywell stands for quality.
Honeywell.
It used to be a computer company.
Yeah, Honeywell Bull.
No, it stands for quality.
I'm going to show myself old by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah.
Oh no agenda.
In the morning.
We do have a few people to thank and let's thank them.
Gary Yatovitz in Forest Hills in New York, 12345, one of my best.
He says, thanks for the great show and newsletter.
I love kittens.
Chris Daly in Beaverton, Oregon, 12345.
My local public radio station is whining about pledge drives donation this week.
I much prefer to be a producer of the best podcast in the universe.
Yay!
Berkeley Hinton, Fremont, California, $111.11.
So we have a couple of call-outs, it looks like.
Where is it?
I don't see.
Anyway, you guys have a show.
Tom Place put me onto the show two years ago and hasn't donated shit.
Douchebag!
Okay, that was the one.
John Knowles in Muffresboro.
I think I know how to pronounce it, but I'm not pronouncing it right.
$111.11.
John Sturkin.
Stad Sweden.
$101.
Sorry.
Sorry.
France Gleitscher in Fremont, $100.
Dennis Sterko in Seaside Park, New Jersey, $100.
John Haas in Lost Wages, Nevada, $100.
And we go to Dave White in Chicopee, Massachusetts Nuts.
And he's in for $77.70 and loves the show.
Of course.
Sherry Laurie in Seaholm, Victoria, Australia sent an email in that we read.
$75.
I think she's a dame.
I-Imagination LTD, Auckland, New Zealand, 7070.
Sir Herb Lamb in Sugarhill, Georgia, 6950.
Mark Carter in Corona, California, 6666.
Keith Ryan in Bloomfield, Connecticut, $56.78.
David Dietrich in Round Hill, Texas, double nickels on the dime.
And we have a clarification about that, by the way.
Do you have that note?
No, I don't.
But apparently the official double nickels on the dime is indeed $55.
But I think it was Sergeant Fred who started with us that double nickels on the dime is $55.10.
And that's just what it will have to be from now on.
No, no, no, no.
That wasn't the letter at all.
Then I don't know what you're talking about.
It was Sergeant Fred.
It was a guy saying it was him, and he gave the exact time and date.
Well, why don't you read the letter, John?
Let me finish the things, and I'll get the letter later, because I obviously don't have the letter right in front of me.
Mm-hmm.
Thinking you might have had it, but you obviously don't.
I'm not in charge of donations.
Which makes an ass out of you and me.
Mostly me.
Christopher Dolan, Berlin, Connecticut.
Double nickels on the dime.
Thomas Mosier, Bloomington, Illinois, 5510.
Andre Peters in Nijmegen.
Nijmegen.
Nijmegen.
You know these.
Nijmegen.
51.
I don't know that name.
N-I-J, it's Holland.
Jaron, Jaron, Timmer in Wagenborgen.
Okay.
Wait, wait, let me get at least the name of the city right.
Wagenborgen.
Close.
Wagenborgen.
Okay.
And his name is Jeroen.
Jeroen.
Timmer.
Timmer.
First used the show to fall asleep.
Finally woke up and saw the true value of the show.
And that, my dear sirs, is the first donation!
Ah, you should get a dedouching for this.
You've been dedouched.
Very good.
Scott, I'm ordering Ireland, Texas.
50.
These are all $50 donors.
We've gotten to the 50s quickly.
Jakob Wojciak in North Vancouver.
Wojciak, maybe.
These are all 50s.
Paul Webb in Twickenham, UK. Sir Paul Vela in Milton Keynes.
Antonio McMullen, Parts Unknown, Anonymous in Corona, California.
David Peet in Aubrey, Texas.
Dan Tantalo in Lakewood Village, Texas.
Two places, two Texas.
And finally, Sir Brian Navarro.
Excuse me, in Los Angeles, California.
I want to thank all these folks for contributing to the show.
I don't know what the number is.
You've really lost track a while back.
Six, nine, or five.
That's because at the top of the spreadsheet, it used to always...
We say, Microsoft Excel show number, and I would just look up.
And I got used to that to such an extreme that I never bothered memorizing the show number.
And now it's not there anymore for some reason, along with apparently line breaks, and so it makes it difficult.
Now, Eric put something in here about line number 32.
Can you read line number 32?
Yes.
Go back to line 32.
Mark Carter in Corona.
My father, Gary Milton Carter, died of malignant melanoma.
I requested my donation to be remembered for him.
For him, I'm also going through a divorce.
Yes.
Same time.
I feel sorry for you, Adam.
So I'm so very sorry.
My only previous donation was for $33.33.
If you toss in a penny, it will bring me to $100 and one-tenth knighthood.
You got it.
As a result, I like to claim the temporary title of knight decimate.
It will make knighthood eventually.
Thanks for your courage.
Don't change the show.
Please play fuck cancer for my father requesting job commerce so I might get out of the ER into a clinical educator.
I knew we had to do something there.
Okay, let me do that.
Very sorry to hear that.
And we'll have a jobs cover for everybody.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
And we thank everybody who came in with amounts under $50.
Of course, $49 is a very popular one for reasons of anonymity, but also people are on the monthlies.
There are several monthly donation programs you can get on.
A little bunch.
Yeah, you can find that.
And I want to thank you, John.
It was kind of interesting.
I do want to give a little inside baseball for everybody.
John always writes the newsletter, and then you'll send it to me, in part for proofreading feedback.
And I said, oh, you're going to put that selfie picture in there?
He said, nah, it's kind of icky.
I said, well, you do it.
If you think it's not right, don't put it in.
Which I was okay with.
And boy, the newsletter went out, and people berated you.
Yeah!
They were like, where's the selfie pic you promised?
Yeah, over Twitter.
I was getting email.
I'm so disappointed.
Well, I'm disappointed in the...
I think in some ways, it's almost as though we can't lead...
I knew what was going to happen when I sent the newsletter out.
It's almost as though we can't...
And I'm going to talk about this for just a minute, because this has to do with donations.
And I knew this was going to happen, and it did happen, which is that once I sent that newsletter out, and I want to kind of scold a few members of the audience, or maybe the audience in general, about this, because we do have a life to lead.
As soon as the newsletter went out, zero donations came in.
As you can tell from my selfies...
Zero donations came in.
Zero.
Nothing.
For the rest of the night.
And that is because there seems to be some sense that Adam's living it up with hot blondes at the theater doing whatever he's doing.
At the cover band show?
Wait a minute.
The small theater in Austin, Texas, living it up with a big shit-eating grin on his face and a hot blonde on his arm.
And it was like, the feedback was like, it was just not good.
It was like, no, you can't, no.
Vow of poverty.
You can't go to a play.
You can't date a woman.
You can't do anything.
You can't stay at the Hotel Pennsylvania.
Part two of the problem was...
What happened to Mickey?
I've been a little behind on the show, but what happened to Mickey?
He's a cad to be going out with pretty girls when he's got a wife at home.
So there's that.
And it was like a loser to send that thing out.
My initial impression, so I made actually three mistakes from a marketing perspective.
One, I came up with, or you kind of jointly came up with the idea of putting it in the newsletter to get some more people to subscribe.
A total of 20 people subscribed.
The second one was, this selfie's not that cool.
But then, you know, the bitching and moaning, okay, I'll send it out against my better judgment.
And then it just dried up.
And I think we're going to have a lousy Sunday.
If you want to be an associate or executive producer for a Sunday show, it's going to be You know, 201 bucks you'll be in.
I just love the fact that people think I'm living it up.
I think that's hilarious.
Well, you got a big smile on your face.
You're at the theater with a hot blonde.
You're living it up.
Hell yeah.
Don't send these guys any money because Adam's just going to spend it on hookers.
Adam C. Curry, where the C stands for playa.
Playa.
Well, I feel really good about that.
And by the way, Nurse Trace is not a hooker.
I know you didn't know.
I'm sure...
That's the kind of thinking going on.
Yeah, well, that's...
No, no one said that.
In fact, she got compliments.
Oh, she's very pretty, and she's very...
I think she's more...
I think she's extremely photogenic.
She is.
She's pretty.
So you should take more pictures with her, and then eventually put an album together or something.
I can do an iPhoto book one day.
The selfies from Adam Curry.
Go away.
No, go away.
There will be absolutely no book like that.
All right, well, I'm glad you all think I'm living it up here as I am sucking Hotel Pennsylvania.
Bed bugs are us.
Wow.
Happy birthday, Samir Bhatti, who we'll be knighting in a moment.
Gerald Howard says happy birthday to his fiancée.
Dawn celebrates tomorrow on the 13th.
And Andre Peters also had a...
It may have been for himself, or Andre will have to get back to us.
Let us know.
It has a question mark here.
Happy birthday from all your friends here at the very lush and lavish offices of the best podcast in the universe.
Living it up!
I'm going to take a picture.
I'm going to take a picture of mine.
You should take a selfie in the Hotel Pennsylvania with the window cocked open.
All right, here we go.
With a towel stuffed in the window.
Make it a very great picture.
I'm just going to do it right now so everyone can know that this is no lie.
Hold on a second.
This may be in the next newsletter.
I'm not guaranteeing anything.
Okay, that was selfie number one of the towel in the window.
Send me a picture of the bed and then I'll figure out whether it's useful.
It's already done.
It's done.
It makes me a little...
A little, like, really?
Okay.
Okay.
You look at the pictures, and meanwhile, I do have a...
I got a picture here.
Jeez.
It's just a picture of half of your head.
It's crooked.
If you tap on the picture, you can see everything in it.
It's very simple, the way it works.
Yeah, but it's not very well...
Okay, never mind.
Never mind.
Let's go.
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I mean of your ring and your certificate.
Are you still with me, John?
Oh yeah.
Okay, you got the pictures?
I got the one picture.
There's two?
Yeah, I just tweeted the bed picture.
Oh.
Oh, no.
I closed it.
Let me go back and look.
Okay.
The one picture.
It's just kind of a picture of the...
It's nothing, not much to it.
And...
Oh, there you are.
No?
That's somebody else.
This is...
No, that's not it.
You can see the...
Oh, okay, I see the bed.
Oh, yeah, this is a...
You're in a very small place.
Look at how narrow that bed is.
I like that big table.
The one that the phone is plugged into the lamp?
Yeah.
Yeah.
High class operation.
There's no agenda show, everybody.
Thanks.
And then you're apparently using the outlet plug that's on the lamp.
Yeah, because it's so well geared for professional travelers.
They have so many outlets and everything is really well arranged.
It's great for podcasters.
Yeah, living it up with hookers and blow.
It's a miracle.
You get such a good signal.
You know what's a miracle?
It's a miracle that someone like Nurse Tracy will even go out with me.
Well, there's that.
Now she sees this, she's like, oh.
Well, at least she knows you're not in there in a big giant bed with some bimbo.
Well, it's unmade.
Okay.
Fine.
You can't have sex in New York.
New York's always fun, so I'm glad you're there.
Yeah, exactly.
No, I'm happy.
You brought something up that touches a nerve.
It's like chomping on tin foil.
Ugh.
That's the worst.
Yeah, it's the worst.
Why is that so horrible?
Something about it.
All right, so there's a big trend.
It's starting up again.
This is a sign of something.
It's one of those things like beanie babies.
These crop up in cycles.
And when I saw this, I went, oh, no.
And I have to now trace back when the cycle, I think this is a depression thing.
Okay.
But play the clip.
It's just starting now.
It's just starting at the beginning.
It'll be a sweep in the nation if it takes off, which I think it will because of the, well, the dumbness of the public.
But play California psychics.
California psychics.
Well, we can't wait.
We're conflicted and, yeah, skeptical.
Talking to a psychic over the phone is a bit impersonal.
They can't be for real, can they?
We let these skeptics try California psychics and here's what they had to say.
You know, it was probably the best psychic reading I've ever had.
Gosh, I got everything I can imagine from my reading.
She's telling me all this stuff and I'm like, how can you possibly know that?
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I wasn't sure about the relationship that I'm in, but now I know he's the right one.
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I think I'm going to have to agree with you.
I remember, was it Dionne Warwick's psychic friends?
Yeah, yeah.
And wasn't that after the big 87 crash?
You know, that's what I said.
I have to start looking at this phenomenon.
And there was that crazy Jamaican woman who kept the big black woman.
She said, I can do this and that.
And she was, of course, a phony.
And I want to point something out about this.
This is a dollar a minute.
And as soon as for your first hour, max, and then if you want to have any further consultations, and most of these people are pretty good at keeping you on the line, it's $14 a minute.
Which amounts to $840 an hour.
You can have a team of psychiatrists, you know, helping you for $840 an hour and a lawyer.
I can tell you how I would run this.
If I would, and this is, I think, there may be something else to it.
I think technology has caught up to where this is a great, it's a classic, classic scam.
So you go ahead, you call up and I'll be your psychic friend.
Let me see, do I have any psychic friend music?
Hmm, that'd be nice if I had some.
I could play a little...
No, no, you're calling up.
You can't do that.
You are a...
No, no, just be anonymous.
It wouldn't be me doing it.
Okay, I'm calling.
Ring the bell.
Okay.
Hello, No Agenda Psychic Friends Network.
Yeah, hi.
I'm calling about getting the free reading.
Oh, yeah.
Hi, sweetie.
How are you?
What's your name?
My, uh, you know, well, okay, John.
John, okay.
And your last name, John?
It's important for the chart, for the chart.
I need to know when you were born.
What's your last name, John?
Smith.
No, John.
You're gonna give me your name.
What's your last name?
You're committed.
You're gonna say Dvorak.
Dvorak.
Ah, John Dvorak.
Okay, when were you born?
You'll give me your date and everything.
And meanwhile, I'm looking up...
Oh, okay, John.
You're what?
You're looking what?
No, I'm looking into the charts, okay?
And I'm thinking, hmm, oh wow, this is very interesting.
This is very, very interesting.
Why?
Well, I'll tell you what I'm seeing.
As I'm pulling up your chart here, John, and I have a feeling, I'm seeing, hold on, I'm seeing a, I'm seeing a, wow, I'm seeing a C, a C, I'm seeing, wow, I'm getting a very strong feeling about Corey.
Is there a Corey in your life?
Corey?
Does the name Corey mean anything to you?
Well, as a matter of fact, he fixed my internet connection.
And I'm seeing little things running, running nuts.
I'm seeing squirrels.
Do squirrels mean anything to you?
Squirrels!
Yeah, squirrel ate through my internet connection.
Wow, okay.
That's before he came to fix.
I have a very good connection.
There's no way you could know this.
No, of course not.
This is why we are the Curry Dvorak Psychic Friends Network.
Do you have a thing with Uma Thurman?
Is there something about Uma?
No, but that's funny to ask, though, because I just posted a picture on my Twitter.
Oh, you're on my Twitter feed.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
Your free consultation is now over.
Please be prepared for $14.99 for the next minute.
That's how I would run this thing.
That would work.
Yeah.
It's perfect.
What are you doing tweeting?
You complain about me with Britney Spears.
Really?
I have a screenshot of that.
that i'll put it in the next newsletter well it's because we have some news john there's a lot of people who are There's been a new discovery.
As you know, one of the most irritating things for me and moon landing deniers worldwide is the fact that all of the recordings of the actual moon landing have been lost, destroyed, or taped over.
It's now filled with reruns of Gilligan's Island.
This has been very annoying because people can't really show the video anymore.
Well, guess what?
We got an email from Mrs.
Armstrong saying that in cleaning out one of his closets, she had found this bag with what looked like space materials in it.
I hadn't heard this guy's list when I cut the clip.
Space materials.
It's kind of funny.
It was a bag with space materials.
Cleaning out one of his closets, she had found this bag with what looked like space materials in it.
Would we be interested in those things as well?
Of course, that was a little bit more exciting to me.
Immediately, I recognized potentially what this was, and that was that there was...
This satchel, what they jokingly called the purse, which had been included in all of the lunar modules beginning in Apollo 9.
The camera itself is without the cartridges.
You can see where the cartridges fit in, and each cartridge was labeled separately with a serial number of the camera that was used and the time, and some of the Cartridges are among the prize sort of film cartridges that NASA has.
So, hold on a second.
Is he telling me that this and he is you see this camera in this piece.
You can see the full video in the show notes.
Six nine or five dot and no agenda notes dot com.
You see this camera, which kind of looks like one of those old super eight millimeter cameras that your dad would have running around with no sound.
This apparently is a 16 millimeter camera.
And if I understand what he said, it sounded like they had some cartridges still left over.
Or did they find those in Neil Armstrong's garage?
I don't know this part of the story.
The only clips I saw was that first part of the report.
They never got to the camera part.
I don't know where they even got that.
Somebody screwed up, I think.
It would actually make sense, I think, if they found...
You know, film of the moon landing in Neil Armstrong's garage.
That makes sense.
That's where they shot the video in the first place.
In the morning.
Less than 10 minutes to go.
Okay.
Sorry.
Oh, yes.
That was a long one.
Oh, yes.
It's like the squirrel joke.
Somebody called me out on Twitter when I said squirrel.
I said, this is a long, two-year, shaky dog story with squirrel as the punchline.
When you've been doing a show long enough, eventually you know that whatever John and Adam are saying, the punchline is squirrel.
That's it.
That's all we got, really.
We just keep doing that over and over again.
Okay, we got a couple of last things here.
I want to go on.
And I have that end of show clip, which is a song which is kind of fun.
Is this another song?
It's a no agenda song, yeah.
It's a long one.
We're looking forward to that.
But let's play the Ebola update and keep up with what's going on.
What are they doing with the troops?
Ebola update.
The president said that the U.S. operation will soon enter a second phase after a dramatic change in the trajectory of new cases of a disease that has killed more than 9,000 people.
Wait a minute.
New cases?
9,000 people?
Wow.
Our focus now is getting to zero.
Because as long as there's even one case of Ebola that's active out there, risks still exist.
Every case is an ember that, if not contained, can light a new fire.
So we're shifting our focus from fighting the epidemic to now extinguishing it.
And joining me now to discuss the past, present, and future of the U.S. Ebola operation...
Hold on a second.
I just need to understand the metaphor.
We're no longer fighting it.
We're extinguishing it.
What is the difference?
Which is impossible because it's endemic now to bats.
West Africa is Rajiv Shah of USAID. Oh, USAID guy.
That's our friends right there.
Welcome to you.
Today signals the end of one phase of the fight.
What does that mean?
Is it a moment of triumph?
How do you describe it?
Well, it's a moment of transition.
And I recall when I visited the West African countries with Ebola in October, there were more than a thousand new cases a week.
I met mothers who were holding their children who were literally dying in their arms.
I ended on that because the guy goes on and on with all this USAID bullcrap.
But the story that he was visiting some mother with an Ebola baby and dying in her arms is bullcrap.
Yeah, of course.
We have not seen any evidence of this.
Please just show me one person in a tent that says USAID on it that has blood coming out of this person's eye sockets and anal cavity.
Then I'll believe that you've got something going on.
9,000 people.
It's a round number now, by the way.
Just 9,000.
They've been to 8,642.
8,793.
9,000.
Well, they finally made 9,000 to forever.
I do have a vaccine thing regarding.
Ah, play it.
This is Senator Murray, a democrat from Washington State, I believe.
Isn't that Murray?
He's up there?
I don't think so.
Oh, maybe if it's a congressman.
Senator, senator.
It's a she.
No, no.
It's a she.
Oh, I don't, you know, maybe.
There's some, maybe.
It's possible.
It's possible.
Shilling for vaccines, and my favorite in particular.
But recent news about the measles outbreak in many states, and including in my home state of Washington, made clear that vaccine-preventable diseases are still a threat, and that we can't afford to become complacent about protecting the progress that we've made.
Bottom line, this means children...
I think she said can't, but I'm happy to listen again.
...are still a threat, and that we can't afford to become complacent about protecting the progress that we've made.
Bottom line, this means children across the country need to be vaccinated.
It also means we need to be vigilant about breaking down any barriers that families may face when it comes to accessing certain vaccines, and we need to ensure that in any case...
What certain vaccines can you think of, John?
Where take-up rates are low, we're providing information and spreading awareness so that more people can be protected.
The HPV vaccine is a great example.
It prevents life-threatening cancers, including cervical cancer, which impact thousands of lives in the United States each year.
Despite that, CDC reports that take-up rates for the vaccine are still unacceptably low, meaning people continue to be exposed to deeply harmful illnesses that could have been prevented.
Yes.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's real!
What?
Who would elect someone who can barely read?
I know.
And all she's doing is shilling for Gardasil, which, yeah, that's, wow, okay.
They've got a marketing budget that'll knock your socks off.
I forgot to play this for you since you had the Ebola.
The Ebola. Ebola. Ebola.
Ebola.
It comes from Africa.
Give diarrhea.
Everybody now.
Quick update now.
No one really talking about this, but the bill passed.
It was already passed in the Senate and in the House, so it's obvious what's going to happen to it now.
The House gave final approval this afternoon to a bill approving the Keystone XL oil pipeline.
It now heads to a certain veto at the hands of President Obama.
He has said he wants the federal review process to play out.
The pipeline would allow oil from Canada's tar sands to flow to Gulf Coast refineries.
Now, this was actually interesting.
For a number of reasons, first of all, the President does have to kind of explain why he's vetoing.
And we all know the reason.
It's because he cannot shun his biggest donors, Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, who are running all of the oil through the trains right now, which they own.
That is the real reason why this is going to be vetoed.
But I will be very interested to see what kind of excuse he gives us for this.
Well, I've heard the excuse.
He says he would like the bill as possible.
There's a bunch of testing and studies and other federal processes that should be gone through.
Yes, all the agencies have to do this.
He wants that process to be complete.
You would expect that process to be...
What is the word they always use?
Transparent?
Yeah, transparent would be the word they would have used five years ago.
And here is Jen Psaki.
I'm telling you, you have to look at the blue outfit.
There's something with her breasts.
She looks like she's gained 100 pounds in that blue outfit.
But if you really look closely, the shape of her breasts are very pretty.
Her nipples are visual and in a nice place, but they're way out to the side.
If she lifts her arm up, it'll be on her back or something.
It's really strange.
I'm telling you, I think she looks fat in that.
Yeah, I would advise different clothing.
Yeah, I would definitely, unless she's just chubbed out.
I mean, it's possible.
I mean, I didn't even say that.
It's just, it's not flattering what she's wearing.
And I hate to say it because it sounds like I'm just a pig.
Yeah, but we're looking at this from a media perspective as producers who look at this.
In front of a bunch of cameras and people start, maybe she's trying to distract people with her newfound weight.
Well, so Matt, who of course, you know, every night I go to bed and I say a little prayer, oh Matt, please ask some funny questions.
And this was good because he just wanted to know about what agencies have put in their review documents.
They're not mandated by the executive order to provide their views on the national interest regarding the proposed project, but we were required to request their views.
There's not a deadline or a timeline.
Of course, their views will be factored into the consideration process.
Did all eight actually submit?
We're not going to confirm.
We treat them as internal recommendations.
Well, I'm not asking what they say.
However, the EPA has already put theirs out.
I understand that.
Well, that is pointless for you guys to keep them secret, right?
Well, we treat them as internal recommendations.
Well, that's fair enough, but I just want to know.
I don't see that as pointless, but go ahead.
Well, I don't understand why you can't say if all eight submitted there or not.
Because they're internal recommendations, and I'm not going to confirm whether or not we've received them.
They're not mandated.
The ones we receive will be factored into the consideration process.
Do you have a balanced representation?
As I mentioned, we treat them as internal.
What happened to this transparency idea?
I'm not asking what's in the report.
What happened to this transparency idea?
If an agency wants to put their own report out and make it public, that's fine.
That's up to them.
The EPA didn't put their recommendations out publicly.
They put out their views on the final SEIS. It's something different, but that's an important distinction.
Go ahead, Roz.
Go ahead, Roz.
Shut up, Matt, with your transparency questions.
I love that guy.
What happened to this transparency idea?
It's not like he actually means that.
He's just saying, jeez lady, your boobs are on your back and you're talking crap.
I've taken a dislike to her.
Oh, no.
No.
I like her.
No.
She's cool.
I only have one more thing that I want to do, and this is the stuff I want to carry over to Sunday.
We've got a few more things.
Do you have anything else you want to poop in?
Well, I got it.
I want to talk a little bit about Mugabe.
Yes.
Taking over Africa like Hitler, thanks to the Chinese.
I think this is all a ploy, of course, African Union and all.
Ah, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
And the Chinese are behind it alone.
But you're keeping that, you want to do that now or you keep that for Sunday?
Nah, I do it on Sunday.
Okay.
And then some guy went to jail for using an emoticon, which the more advanced formed the emoji.
What country was this?
I think in the United States.
Play the clip.
Hmm.
Okay, this is interesting.
I hadn't heard about this one.
Now, everyone knows that putting a happy, sad, or angry icon at the end of your message is nothing more than a bit of fun, really.
But for one teenager, that simple action landed him in a whole lot of hot water.
Brooklyn Teen, Sirius Aristi, posted on Facebook a status like this.
Only instead of an abstract face, he used a cartoon representation of a police officer.
Days later, the NYPD arrested Aristi for making a terrorist threat.
A grand jury has thrown out the charges, which carried up to seven years in prison.
But Aristi is still facing time for illegal gun possession.
The NYPD say they found a weapon in his bedroom when they came to arrest him.
The teen's lawyer told us the case is just bizarre.
There's no precedent, there's no legal precedent for equating emojis with terroristic threats.
And I think that's part of the novelty of this case.
It's so unusual.
It hasn't happened before.
What exactly was the emoji?
I don't understand.
He had a picture, he had a bunch of little emojis, you know, different little stupid things.
A cop had.
I learned from Film Girl.
A cop head.
Yeah.
It was like a policeman, you know, like a guy with a cigar.
Oh, a cop head and then a little gun next to it?
And a couple of guns next to it, to the right.
Oh, wow.
Well, this is, it's not like we haven't predicted it.
It's a terrorist threat.
And of course, then they go in his room to arrest him, and then they, oh, just coincidentally see the ditched gun somehow through magic eyes, which they probably had themselves.
Planted gun.
Planted.
It's the oldest trick in the book.
Oh, yeah.
And Brooklyn, come on.
All right.
Mine kind of ties into this.
This is the BBC, and they have Rabbi Goldsmith on the show, talking about, of course, the rise of anti-Semitism all over Europe.
You know, the Muslims be hatin' on him.
Haters be haters.
The haters be hatin'.
And he has some novel ideas about how we get everybody to...
Shut up!
Just talk for a second about this idea of so-called internet ASBOs, i.e.
blocking people from social media sites if they put anti-Semitic material out there.
You're talking a little bit funny, but anti-Semitic material to get ASBO. So if you say something anti-Semitic on social media, which, is that illegal in the UK? Is that in the legal...
Hate speech!
Is that workable?
Because presumably if you get blocked under one address, you just find another one and sign up that way.
Well, there is a precedent.
So there are prevention orders in place for the perpetrators of sexual offences.
And what the report says is that there is an application here.
The MPs believe there's an application for those perpetrators of hate crime.
So for the most persistent and determined offenders, when they go to court, the judges or the prosecuting authorities would have the option of laying down this prevention order, which would stop them going online.
If they then did go online, they'd be back in court.
I think that whether hate crime is happening on Twitter or Facebook or whether it's happening in newspapers or whether it's happening in leaflets, it's the same thing.
It's just simply moved to a different media.
So I do think that people do need that sense that wherever you spread hate, that's not going to be legal.
It is going to be action.
It is going to be found out.
There you go.
When you spread hate, that will not be legal.
Nope.
You can just wait for it.
Just wait for it.
And as long as we are deemed legal, we'll continue to bring you this program, which some have dubbed the best podcast in the universe.
Yes.
We wear that as a badge of pride.
And it could be illegal content someday.
Unlawful at best.
All right, everybody.
Hope you enjoyed the show.
I'm glad to thank you very much at T-Mobile for keeping most of it going with my...
Non-multi-tasking iPhone.
I'm impressed.
I'm impressed.
I actually am impressed.
It's worked pretty well.
It's a very good connection for you.
And I'm sure your de-squirrelized Comcast connection has something to do with it as well.
No, I switched over when you get disconnected just in case.
Oh, okay.
I'm on the backup.
Sounds good as well.
The normal one.
Sounds good.
So we have a little song as the final clip, end of show clip from Sir Terry.
And I'm coming to you today from FEMA Region 2 in the capital, no, in the heart of New York City.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm telling people to go take the day off, it's Lincoln's birthday.
Used to be a holiday when I was a kid.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda.
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We need to kill and bomb them.
Bomb them.
We need to bomb them.
We need to kill them and bomb them again.
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Darling Adam, who can I turn to?
Caliphate!
Give me something I can hold on to.
Coke Brothers!
With all the memes that try to pull me on down.
Coke!
With no agenda, I finally can turn it around.
Our formula is this.
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Listen to no agenda, N-O-A-D-E-A-A. I have two words for you.
Oh, you don't know me, but you make me so bad.
Never been a part that I don't like before Your brilliant destruction is what we all find out for It was worth it It's much worth it.
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New shit has come to light.
I'm Joe Biden, and thank you for taking the time to listen.