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	Flash, flash, flash.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, October 19, 2014.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, episode 662.
	This is No Agenda.
	Searching for direct flights from West Africa and broadcasting from FEMA Region 6 in the capital of the drone star state in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I have my siren, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
	I love that siren.
	This is the expensive one.
	Yeah, it's a real instrument.
	It's not an electronic sound effect.
	Yeah.
	Nice.
	I do have a surprise.
	I bet you are the envy of all the kids on the block.
	Because I have a surprise?
	No, because you have that whistle.
	You have to order these special.
	What's your surprise, John?
	Uh, there's a clip.
	Oh!
	Uh, and the clip, I believe?
	It's called competition.
	Uh, competition.
	Alright, alright, here we go.
	Oh, there's no winning.
	We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot.
	Now everyone hug and share a secret.
	Yeah, you found it!
	Alright, this is great!
	Oh, good work!
	Yes, it was from 2010.
	Oh, it's almost a five-year-old Cliff.
	Good work.
	I have a couple of classics from that era, which we'll get to later.
	Well, I have a new surprise.
	Okay.
	While we're at it.
	Hold on, let me...
	I wasn't expecting to do this just now, but I can do it.
	One of our all-time favorite clips is this one from Dr.
	Kiki.
	Shut up already!
	It's science!
	Right?
	Yes, it's an absolute favorite.
	What if I told you I have a new favorite from Dr.
	Kiki?
	No.
	Oh, yes.
	I'll play you the full length.
	I can't believe one person could get two favorites.
	I'm telling you.
	I got my flu shot a couple of weeks ago.
	Nice little sore arm for a couple of days, but...
	It was worth it.
	So I've isolated.
	It was worth it.
	It was worth it.
	How fabulous is she?
	Wow.
	She must be sitting there just going like, let me give something for the boys.
	Hey boys, here's one for you.
	The Dvorak and Curry boys, they need something.
	It was worth it.
	It was worth it.
	By the way.
	Let's go over that clip.
	Why was it worth it?
	You spent ten bucks.
	Well, I have the whole segment if you're really interested.
	I could play that for you.
	But she went out and got a flu vaccine.
	Okay.
	So what?
	It was worth it.
	How?
	Well, let's listen to that clip again, then.
	I got my flu shot a couple of weeks ago.
	Nice little sore arm for a couple of days, but it was worth it.
	It was worth it.
	I'm convinced she's insane.
	You're so right, because there is no other context to why it was worth it.
	So her arm was sore for a couple of days, but it was worth it!
	It was worth it!
	It's like anal sex.
	It was worth it!
	It was worth it!
	I would say the arm being sore for a couple of days is disconcerting.
	I used to get flu shots all the time, and I never had a sore arm from it.
	And I don't see how it can be worth it.
	No.
	Besides that, I don't have the clip, but there was a...
	There was a woman, a vaccine person on the television discussing what's called herd immunity.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay, yeah.
	It's not individuals getting individual shots that makes a difference.
	In fact, most of these vaccines are only about 70% effective on anyone.
	And this is very typical.
	But what you end up with is you get enough people in the population vaccinated, you get what's called herd immunity.
	So the likelihood of actually even encountering the virus is very low because it's effectively been eradicated from the herd.
	From the herd at that moment.
	The flu, of course, it changes every year, so you have to do this every year.
	You'd have to think it's a gimmick.
	But you know, every single year, if you do it, You know.
	It was worth it.
	It was worth it.
	We'll probably get an email from her on that one.
	I hope so.
	I'm looking forward to that.
	Well, well, speaking of vaccines, and we have a few new jingles today, John, as you can already guess.
	Here's a surprise for you after multiple requests.
	Ebola.
	You come from Africa and you've diarrhea.
	Now, isn't that exactly what you wanted?
	Yes, it was.
	You wanted the Ebola Matilda.
	Yeah, Ebola Matilda.
	And it's comes from Africa, cause diarrhea.
	Cause diarrhea.
	That's great.
	Who did that?
	Welcome to my show!
	Welcome to my show!
	Oh, nice.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He sent a couple in.
	He's been on kind of a somewhat of a roll recently.
	I have more if you want to.
	I got a couple more.
	Yeah, no, I'm all game.
	I love these things.
	Okay, this is a classic.
	It's somewhat ironic since when we began the show.
	We were all against Jingle.
	We were all against it.
	Exactly.
	Ebola.
	Whoa, whoa.
	Ebola.
	And then one...
	Well, Vic Damone, he ain't.
	No.
	And then one final one, which you may not know.
	I don't know if you know orchestral maneuvers in the dark.
	Enola Gay?
	You probably do.
	When you hear the song...
	Wasn't that a bomber?
	Yes, it was a song about the one that dropped Big Fat Daddy or whatever on Hiroshima.
	Here it is.
	A classic from the 80s, everybody.
	Enola Strain.
	Yes, you've got to love it.
	I think we have an Al Yankovic in our midst.
	Oh, several.
	Better than, probably.
	Because they don't need any money.
	They just make it and put it out there and not have to live from it, thank goodness.
	Well, of course, let's just get right into it since we've played all the jingles.
	I love when things just come together in between shows.
	It doesn't get much nicer than that.
	Whereas we have...
	I think conclusively shown that this is a political scare.
	The politics of fear is what I would call this.
	This Ebola.
	And a couple things happened.
	First, the president...
	He appointed what everyone is calling the Ebola Tsar, which of course is, the Republicans obviously immediately pull up the Tsar name.
	I think he has an actual title, which is Ebola Coordinator.
	Let me see, I have his actual title here somewhere.
	You know, the Republicans were demanding he do this.
	And the Republicans were the same ones that were moaning and groaning about all these czars he used to just threw out there.
	Do, from what I can tell, absolutely nothing except collect a paycheck.
	Well, the funny thing is, is that this guy, this is a complete political, high-ranked Democratic Party insider who is very famous for elections.
	Yeah.
	This is just a payoff.
	Well, besides it being...
	Yes, that's a very good point.
	Because if you see how he's related with the Revolution LLC Investment Corp, which it goes back to Vivek Kundra and all these...
	Who was the guy that came in for healthcare.gov?
	Zintz?
	Yeah.
	It's all these same guys.
	It's all the same a-holes.
	And here's Josh Earnest.
	The contradiction in terms name, dude, White House spokeshole, trying to explain Ron Klain, K-L-A-I-N, as the czar, which of course is not really, Republicans, Republicans!
	This is a fight between the Republicans and the Democrats for the November 5th elections, and it will become abundantly clear how pathetic, just pathetic this thing really is.
	What does Ron Klain know about Ebola?
	Well, the thing that's...
	Let's talk about...
	Let me restate why this person...
	That's not answering the question.
	It gets worse.
	It gets much worse than this.
	Why the president believes it was important to add this person to his team.
	Team?
	The president, again, wanted somebody who could serve in a coordinating function to manage the implementation of our whole-of-government approach to this Ebola situation.
	Situation.
	And so...
	I guess to more directly address your question, what we were looking for is not an Ebola expert, but rather an implementation expert.
	And that's exactly what Ron Klain is.
	He is somebody who has extensive experience in the federal government.
	He's somebody that has extensive management experience when it comes to the private sector.
	Is he a czar?
	Is that his title?
	What is his title?
	Hi, I'm Adam Curry.
	I used to be with MTV. Now I'm a czar.
	Oh, really?
	Yes, I'm the Tourette's Czar.
	His title is, he is the Ebola Response Coordinator.
	Ebola Response Coordinator.
	Here's how it goes.
	Let me see if we can...
	Hello, Ron?
	Ron?
	Ron?
	It's Barack here.
	Ron?
	Yeah?
	Hey, we need some help over here, Ron.
	This thing is falling apart on my ass, man.
	These Republicans, they're doing all this crazy shit.
	They're trying to F me, man.
	What are we going to do?
	Hey, don't worry about it.
	You're not running for re-election or anything.
	I'll tell you what.
	Why don't you just put a few of your pals in office and give us some big money and we'll kick it back to you after you're out.
	We'll set you up.
	Good deal!
	Let's get on it!
	Click.
	I know that there are some Republicans and even some pundits who are describing him as a czar.
	They're certainly welcome to do that.
	We describe him as the Ebola response coordinator.
	We describe him as a douchebag.
	The administration back in 2009 said that there isn't anybody working for the White House that you would call a czar.
	And we do not call him a czar.
	Again, that is what Republicans...
	Republicans!
	I don't know if that is intended as a derogatory term.
	Yeah.
	Maybe it is.
	Maybe some people mean it that way and some people don't.
	We describe him as the Ebola response coordinator, and we think that he is exceedingly well-suited to the task.
	And he's going to report to Lisa Monaco and Susan Rice.
	That's correct.
	So are they in charge of the Ebola response?
	The women apparently can't handle it.
	No one asks this question and says, what, the women aren't good enough?
	You have to bring in some guy because the women can't handle it?
	That would be a great question.
	That was what I would say.
	That's actually the first thing I thought.
	...in charge of it.
	Well, we've had the opportunity to discuss this quite a bit over the last couple of days.
	The fact of the matter is...
	Fact of the matter is...
	Well, here comes a lie.
	Attention, attention.
	Lies ahead.
	This administration, under the direction of the president, is pursuing a whole-of-government approach...
	Yeah, we've heard that.
	...responding to this Ebola situation.
	It's a situation.
	It's a scenario.
	It's a situation.
	Government approach.
	What the...
	What the...
	Notice they are no longer using the word outbreak, which the president himself used a number of times.
	They're no longer saying outbreak.
	Now it's a situation.
	It's a minor fracas.
	It's a glitch.
	It means there are very important areas of responsibility for the Department of Defense in West Africa.
	Oh.
	USAID and CDC have responsibilities for some of the efforts that are underway in West Africa.
	Yes.
	Here in this country, there are important responsibilities that the CDC has for communicating with healthcare professionals.
	Uh-huh.
	And with hospitals across the country, DHS has a responsibility for securing the borders.
	How about the EPA? They should be in on this.
	He's responsible for performing that work, and it's the responsibility of Mr.
	Klain to coordinate those efforts across agencies to make sure that we are maximizing this whole-of-government approach.
	But ultimately, the buck stops with the President of the United States, as it always does.
	So, here's the bullcrap.
	If you bring this guy in to coordinate across all of the agencies, why is he reporting to Rice and...
	Yeah, who was the other one?
	I forget her name.
	Well, that's ultimately who everybody reports to.
	USA Today did a fine rundown on who this guy really is, and it'll give you an idea of just how his job is to come in and make sure that this does not mess up the November 5th elections, and they have the media against them, which I will demonstrate in a moment.
	Come on, play.
	As pressure mounts for the White House to take a stronger stance.
	What is going on with this clip?
	As pressure mounts for the White House to take a stronger stance in the fight against Ebola, Ron Klain will be appointed as President Obama's Ebola Czar.
	We haven't had a surgeon general for a year, and that's a job that would have traditionally done a lot of this role, so now they need somebody to come in there and step in and pull a lot of the various pieces together.
	I find that...
	Set up.
	That's a good point, that we don't have that.
	Set up.
	So yeah, but it's a good setup.
	Klain has served as a top aide to Al Gore during the 2000 election.
	He also served as an advisor for John Kerry's presidential campaign and as chief of staff to Vice President Joe Biden.
	In 2011, he left the White House to serve in the private sector.
	Well, he knows so many people inside of Washington, inside of government.
	He's a super lobbyist.
	Inside the policy community.
	He knows how to make things work, and that's one of the things that the president needs right now.
	Klain's role as general counsel to Al Gore's 2000 Recount Committee was the focus of the 2008 film, Recount.
	Oscar-winning actor Kevin Spacey played Klain in the HBO movie.
	Because he's such a czar.
	Good to see you, Mr.
	Klain.
	So did the best man win, then?
	You bet.
	There's no winning.
	You're sure about that?
	As the Ebola czar, a White House official says Klain will be responsible for coordinating the administration's whole-of-government response to Ebola.
	Very nice.
	Oh, there's no winning.
	We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot.
	Now everyone hug and share a secret.
	The big problem that is taking place right now, and I just saw in the corner of my eye, Ted Cruz, who I've just lost all respect for, on with Michelle Candycorn.
	What's her name?
	Crowley.
	Candy.
	No, not Crowley.
	Cindy Candy.
	Candy Crowley.
	Candy Crowley.
	Yeah, it is Crowley.
	And he is leading the Republicans in saying, we need a travel ban, travel ban, travel ban.
	Now, this is a problem.
	If you implement a travel ban, we can't have soldiers coming back and forth to get new supplies for God knows what oil is going to be.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	We can't get the health workers back and forth.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	Excuse me.
	You got the health.
	I'm sorry.
	You got your talking points next.
	The health workers, yes.
	So the president did an off-the-cuff little news thingy there with, I think, the new woman from Health and Human Services.
	And the first thing he does, and just because he says this, I want to play it again quickly.
	We've seen some progress in Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea, but we haven't seen enough.
	We've got more work to do.
	And the good news is that increasingly, when I talk to these world leaders, what you're seeing is a recognition that Hello, world leader number one.
	Do you recognize we need some?
	Yeah, I do.
	The sooner we control this outbreak at the source in West Africa, the less our people are going to be at risk.
	You know, this really bothers me, actually, when he says this.
	I've been calling world leaders, and I said to the world leader, as I said, why don't you tell me who you talk to?
	Angela?
	Putin?
	Putin?
	No, not those two.
	Herman Van Rompuy, Barroso, what world leaders did he talk to?
	Ban Ki-moon?
	Susan Rice.
	Yes, exactly.
	I think more and more of them are stepping up, although it's, I think, taking a little longer than it should.
	And that's something that all of us should recognize.
	I don't understand why he keeps saying we have to recognize that not everybody or more and more are stepping up.
	And by the way, the term stepping up and on my team reminds me of someone you and I both know, a pathological liar.
	It does what a flower does.
	Yeah.
	And he would use these exact terms.
	Yeah, we need to step up.
	And that was always, to me, was like a signal saying, you're full of crap.
	Whatever you're saying is a lie, and you're giving people...
	Yeah, he shouldn't be saying that.
	He should be raising the bar.
	Okay, you got me on that one.
	Excellent.
	Now, here he is trying to get something going.
	He has a real problem with this Republican call.
	And I'm telling you, I have heard people say this.
	It has been so effective, mainly from Obama bots.
	We're saying, oh, we have to quarantine these countries.
	Oh, we have to have a travel ban.
	And of course, there's no direct flight, really, from any of these West African countries.
	No, that guy that got into the Dallas game is from Belgium.
	Which is the fallacy and the joke of it all.
	But for whatever reason, and of course, this is for the health workers.
	The president really is trying to nip this in the bud, and he's got almost the entire press corps helping him with it.
	Here is his call to action about, hey, this is crazy, man.
	Everyone advises me.
	My world leaders, my friends, and my team have been stepping up and advising me not to do this.
	One issue that I want to address, because I know this has been a topic consistently in the news, is the issue of a travel ban.
	Yeah, it's going to hurt the election, so let me talk about this.
	We don't want this to become the talking point of the Republicans for the election.
	And I know that you've heard from some public health experts about this, but I want to make sure that everybody's clear about the issue.
	I don't have a philosophical objection, necessarily, to a travel ban.
	What does that mean, a philosophical objection?
	I didn't know it was a philosophy.
	Is it a health issue?
	I've got a book of Hegel here.
	Let me start reading through it so there's anything about travel bans in his thinking.
	Philosophical.
	Why would he say philosophical?
	Because it's not about your safety, ladies and gentlemen.
	It's about winning the elections.
	And this thing...
	It backfired, or they weren't ready for it, or the Republicans figured out a strategy, and this is the only...
	You are not in any danger whatsoever.
	It's very difficult.
	I see people...
	Mickey, who...
	Saturday morning, we wake up.
	It's unbelievable.
	Even though...
	I understand the take you guys have on it, and I feel safe.
	You know, even living two hours, a couple hours from Dallas, NPR was so nonstop hammering Ebola, Ebola, Ebola, Ebola.
	She had nightmares about Ebola, even though she philosophically...
	And she's not...
	Sick like the rest of them.
	So just imagine, NPR, Obama, Ebola, and then the president says, you don't need a travel ban.
	Their brains are exploding, people's minds are frying.
	It's too late.
	The fear has already been set in with popular culture and movies.
	The people are freaking out for no reason.
	You have to back...
	You have to back up a couple of steps and see why this happened, because Ebola has been, Ebola has been, we've been brainwashed about Ebola for about 10 to 20 years, ever since it first came out of the labs in the mid-70s.
	They started talking about it as this horrible thing that's in Africa.
	And we've had all these movies, you know, like Contagion, what was the movie before?
	Andromeda Strain, Outbreak, Ebola.
	Movies, and they had to blow and kill everybody.
	And this is what you hear on NPR about Ebola.
	It is scary and wretched and miserable.
	It is gross.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	My favorite scene, and everyone probably seen this in at least one movie.
	I think I've seen it in a couple different movies.
	The guy is in the containment area, and something breaks, and either he drops a vial...
	Or the guy that's in the bucket jumps up, and the other guy catches this, whatever it is, within five seconds, and his head blows off.
	His eyes start to bleed.
	He's up against the glass, going, my God, help me!
	And he's up against the glass, and his ears and eyes and mouth are blood gushing out, and the guy drops dead on the spot.
	Within, like, 15 seconds of movie.
	I think this indoctrination started when I was a kid with Donald Sutherland in Scanners.
	Do you remember that movie where their heads would explode if you caught it?
	So I'm curiously just reading about the special effects and scanners because this is one of those movies by that.
	Was this your Saturday night reading?
	Yeah.
	So I'm reading about this thing and they had nothing but trouble with the guy's head blowing up at the end of the movie.
	Or they had that one support where they blow them all up and they're all sitting at the desks at the dais or whatever and their heads blow up.
	And so they have a copy of the guy's head that is kind of filled with...
	A copy?
	Like a 3D model?
	What is it?
	Yeah, no, it's not his head.
	It's a model.
	Oh, okay.
	But it's like some sort of rubber that they can pump it up with air and then make it blow up.
	And they said it was so cheesy over and over again, they could never get the thing to work.
	And so the special effects director, the way he finally did it, he says, we're going to get a slow-mo camera, put it on the guy, fill the phony head up with a bunch of blood and guts, and then take a shotgun...
	And blow it off.
	...the chair...
	Excellent.
	And just blow his head up with a shotgun.
	And that's how they did that scene.
	And when you think that low-tech version, you'd think that these guys could do better beheading videos by now.
	It's so easy.
	Just a spaghetti and a balloon.
	They won't hire the people that know what they're doing.
	All right, let's continue with the president with his huge philosophical issue.
	That is the thing that is going to keep the American people safe.
	The problem is, is that in all the discussions I've had thus far with experts in the field, experts in infectious disease...
	Let's not name any of them.
	...is that a travel ban is less effective than the measures that we are currently instituting.
	Ah!
	If we institute a travel ban instead of the protocols that we put in place now, history shows that there is a likelihood...
	What history?
	Do we have a history of...
	When has this ever happened before?
	He's talking about a history.
	I think it's the Spanish flu that he's referring to.
	History has shown...
	...of increased avoidance.
	People do not readily disclose their information.
	They may engage in something called broken travel.
	Broken travel.
	It has a term.
	They may engage in something called broken travel.
	Broken travel.
	It's called a non-direct flight.
	There's no non-stop flight for most of these countries.
	Hello!
	Essentially breaking up their trip so that they can hide the fact that they have been to one of these countries where there is a disease in place.
	As a result, we may end up getting less information about who has the disease.
	You know, you think with all these databases and everything we do for terrorists, we could track a couple Africans.
	No, no, broken travel may occur.
	We can't track them.
	They're less likely to get treated properly, screened properly, quarantined properly.
	And as a consequence, we could end up having more cases rather than less.
	Now, I continue to push and ask our experts, whether in fact we are doing what's adequate.
	I don't want what's adequate.
	Why does he say adequate?
	I don't want adequate.
	What does he mean by this?
	Top of the line.
	I don't want adequate.
	I don't want adequate.
	What's adequate?
	I don't want adequate.
	I want this guy.
	Where's this guy?
	There's a need for a rescue mission.
	When the world is threatened, the world needs help.
	It calls on America.
	And that's the story.
	And we're adequate.
	And ask our experts whether in fact we are doing what's adequate in order to protect the American people.
	If they come back to me and they say that there's some additional things that we need to do, I assure you we will do it.
	Doesn't adequate mean the bare necessity?
	Yeah, adequate.
	It's like adequate.
	It kind of gets the job done.
	It gets the job done, kind of.
	So the call went out to all the friendly media, and we have some examples of them.
	Hey, we know how the call went.
	We don't even have to do it.
	We need some help.
	We need to discredit this travel ban because the Republicans are gaining traction.
	And now we have Ted Cruz on the Cindy Candy Show and everyone's freaking out.
	He's like a Goldman Sachs wife.
	He's a lawyer.
	He's a smart guy.
	The Republicans love him.
	We have to snip this in the butt.
	Let's start with ABC. Good morning, America.
	Help!
	And I just want to amplify such an important point that you made about Eric Duncan, Charles Eric Duncan's family not being sick thus far does speak to how hard it is to contract this virus.
	Yeah, it is not an airborne disease and that's why some who are calling for a flight ban, they're saying that's not going to work because this is only passed through bodily fluids back and forth.
	And it's a great corrective to all the fear and, in some cases, panic out there.
	Yeah, which you were all a part of, you morons.
	Everyone's like, oh crap, now we blew it.
	Now everyone's afraid.
	Let's go to MSNBC. Quick, Abby Huntsman, help us out.
	Help the president.
	How did you know we've been having a debate in this country around whether we should ban all flights to...
	I haven't had any debate in this country.
	It's a debate in Washington between the Republicans and Democrats, you douche.
	West Africa, you have a number of Republicans that are saying...
	Oh, here she is.
	Here it is.
	Proof this is only about the elections.
	Now we move into talking about politics.
	Why haven't we already done this?
	We are now in this situation.
	And the president said last night, look, we are not banning flights for a number of reasons.
	We'll keep monitoring it.
	Where do you fall in this debate?
	Well, from the side of the Democrats, of course.
	First of all, it makes no sense to ban flights from the Ebola-affected countries.
	We don't have any direct flights.
	Why didn't anyone say that to the president when he was saying, Mr.
	President, we don't have any direct flights?
	Shouldn't we, like, what?
	Shut up.
	What's the fuss?
	Shut up.
	From Guinea, Sierra Leone, or Liberia.
	But if you think about, if your neighbor's bathtub was leaking and it was running into your house...
	Here come the analogies.
	And this is talking points.
	This is 100% talking points.
	It's a good one.
	If your neighbor's bathtub is leaking, John, and it's dripping into your house, what do you do?
	I'm calling the police.
	Would you go help them fix the leak, or would you try to paint rubber walls or something?
	It would make no sense.
	And really, the way that we are going to contain Ebola is at the source.
	Hold on a second.
	And really, a travel...
	Paint rubber walls?
	Yeah, that was...
	What the hell is that supposed to mean?
	And what kind of...
	Who wrote that?
	That was Toure.
	The Rolling Stone reporter who thinks he's an injured journalist now.
	Toure.
	Rubber walls?
	Rubber walls?
	No, you have to fix the problem.
	You gotta help your neighbor.
	No, we call the police.
	Of course...
	Absolutely!
	Call 911!
	Trust me, 90% of Americans would call 911.
	That's how dumb we've become.
	Really, the way that we are going to contain Ebola is at the source.
	And really, a travel ban, or even talking about a travel ban, is counterproductive because what we need now is a surge of health workers.
	What?
	Talking about it is counterproductive?
	Yeah, because it gives the Republicans a leg up.
	Mmm.
	What do you have in your mouth?
	I'm listening to this thing and eating some craisins.
	Craisins?
	Is that...
	What is a craisin?
	By the way, that was the last one.
	I just ate it.
	Oh, you didn't share it with the class.
	What is a craisin?
	It's something...
	It's a raisin with something...
	Cranberry.
	Dried cranberry.
	Because what we need now is a surge of health workers.
	Who's going to want to go if they can't come back?
	Exactly.
	And so this is actually going to make it much tougher.
	There's your health workers.
	They can't come back.
	The health workers can't come back.
	Oh, let's go to Charlie Rose.
	Charlie's always good when we need him on CBS there with Gail.
	Help us out, Charlie.
	Take it to the politics, brother.
	They want the answer.
	I don't believe that there's still hope.
	And the focus groups that I do, the level of anger and cynicism and just absolute disrespect.
	But does that kind of atmosphere play into the hands of people who want to call for radical answers?
	I mean, who will push for the most conservative, most In terms of not Democrat, Republicans, but most toughest measures possible in terms of quarantine, in terms of inspection, in terms of all of that.
	I think what it encourages is maybe the most conservative, but also in some sense is the most liberal.
	What it calls for is people to go out there and make grand promises.
	What happens when you have trust this low is you need a series of trust-building exercises in government to create small incremental benefits.
	This guy is literally talking about the elections.
	Charlie Rose starts about Ebola.
	They're talking about the fact that the current administration and this government in general has very low trust issues, including the president.
	He's just out and out discussing it now.
	Yes.
	And here's CDC's Freedom on the Hill being grilled by Republicans, of course.
	Have you had conversations with the White House about a travel ban?
	Trying to catch the smoking gun.
	We can get this guy.
	Come on, let's see if we can get him.
	That's a yes or no question.
	Oh, it's a yes or no question!
	Will he answer it with yes or no?
	I don't think so.
	We would certainly consider anything that will reduce risk to Americans.
	Yeah, of course.
	You're all part of it.
	Everyone's running interference.
	And here is the final one on the morning joke.
	Another MSNBC, this is pretty incredible, said the morning joke guy, they've got the Brzezinski child, And then they bring in a guy from Huffington Post.
	Since when did Huffington Post become an authority on anything?
	They got their start by stealing stories from everybody else.
	They're still stealing stories.
	Yeah.
	So who is Sam Stein?
	Is he a well-known reporter?
	Sam Stein.
	Man on the street.
	It sounds like a DJ name.
	Sam Stein.
	New York, maybe.
	And Sam Stein takes it to the most ridiculous level.
	Which I think is, I have to give him props.
	Sam Stein having to post.
	I think he's based in Washington.
	It used to be at Newsweek before it folded in the New York Daily News.
	I was trying to look at a Newsweek story today on my, I have a Nexus 7 2012 version tablet, which is, that's the year you want to have, by the way, 2012, before they cut out some good stuff.
	And you bring up Newsweek, and you try to scroll down the page, and it keeps flashing back to the top because it's trying to JavaScript these full-page takeover ads.
	I hate you, Newsweek.
	I can't.
	I will never look at another Newsweek article again because of this idiocy.
	You people are stupid.
	All right.
	Listen to Sam Stein.
	This is the explanation I would run with because I believe the president can actually sell this to people who are moronic enough to believe in it.
	And I think that's probably more than half the country.
	I'm not an expert in this area.
	I just want somebody to give me a logical reason why we don't severely limit people from these countries.
	I am not advocating a quarantine.
	I am just asking...
	Okay, take a crack, Sam, because you tried last week and you were wrong.
	It's terrible, yeah.
	Go ahead.
	Go, Sam.
	The nexus of the problem with Ebola is not in America.
	It's in West Africa.
	And until you get the situation in West Africa under control, we will never be actually out of the woods with respect to Ebola.
	So when you look at a travel ban, you have to look at it holistically.
	What is it holistically?
	You've got to look at it.
	Now, I think that...
	What does that even mean?
	I think it's along the lines of philosophically.
	And I think when you say something, it's another pathological liar word.
	We've heard that people use it holistically all the time.
	I've heard people use it in sales meetings.
	And I've seen very so-called intelligent venture capitalists go, oh yeah.
	Yes, let's look at this holistically.
	When you look at a travel ban, you have to look at it holistically.
	What does it mean, not just for America, but for West Africa?
	And basically every health official, maybe with a few exceptions, has said that if you do a travel ban, it may in fact help America, but it would make the situation...
	I want you to hear his point.
	No, no, but I wanted to hear, what was that person?
	Somebody said something.
	No, I tried to isolate that five times, and it's the Brzezinski child saying something to Joe.
	I listened...
	Okay.
	I must have tried to isolate.
	She's whispering something that I think was interesting.
	I could not figure it out.
	Ah.
	Believe me, I tried.
	But thank you.
	I'm glad you caught it.
	It may, in fact, help America, but it would make the situation in West Africa a whole lot more complex and a whole lot worse.
	So this is what I think the strategy should be.
	If they had hired the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group, I would say you need to tell people that, yes, a travel ban might help America a little bit, but it would really hurt Africa.
	And I believe people say, yeah, you know what?
	We need to help Africa.
	And we could all change our Twitter icon to the continent of Africa.
	Bloody eyeball.
	If you do a travel ban in that country, people in that country will panic.
	There will be political panic.
	There will be social panic.
	In addition, people in that country will still try to get out of that country, even though there's a travel ban.
	You can't prevent them from trying to get out of the country.
	Right.
	Even if you do have a travel ban, then it becomes a question of, okay, let's say someone with Ebola did try to get out of that country, and they did go to Europe, and yet we stopped them in Europe from going to the United States.
	We still then have to trace who their contacts were up until that point.
	And if you have a travel ban, if they were going underground, it becomes a lot harder to trace their contacts.
	So yes, you might help the situation in America, but the situation in West Africa is exacerbated and made worse.
	I think it's a bold one, but I think if the president came out and said...
	We're not just about ourselves in the world.
	We're America.
	We are the indispensable nation.
	So we don't just think about ourselves.
	We don't want to implement a travel ban because we want to help all children of the world, including the children of West Africa.
	That would work.
	I think you could sell that.
	I think it's easier to sell.
	We don't have any flights to Africa.
	What?
	Well, there's that.
	Then, the President...
	This is very interesting.
	The President did his podcast all about Ebola, of course, with all kinds of facts.
	I'm not going to play the whole thing.
	But there was this interesting alert, alert, alert, which came...
	I think this was Saturday.
	The President's podcast is typically done on Friday...
	So they could have known that this was against all rules.
	This happened in Washington, D.C. Big, frightening, frightening, because, you know, it's never happened in world history before where someone has had to puke because they were riding on a bus.
	Barbara, if you can take a look down this street here, we're on Virginia Avenue, southeast, on Capitol Hill.
	You see this white tour bus.
	This bus left Pentagon just a few minutes ago.
	A passenger got off of that bus and became ill in the parking lot and threw up.
	The bus was able to leave.
	Do you remember when this was like news that you talked about at school in the yard?
	Hey, man, did you see that guy?
	He puked yesterday after getting off the bus.
	Now it's...
	Somebody got car sick being in a bus.
	Now it's national news.
	Wait, wait, wait, let me finish this.
	This is interesting.
	It was the Pentagon and got here, but by the time it got here, health officials had this bus detained.
	Now what I can tell you, I was just about the first person on the scene here after first responders.
	They actually thought I was on the bus as well and tried to quarantine me.
	But what we can tell you is that about 12 people, passengers, and the driver were taken off of that white tour bus and they have now been isolated on a second bus that has dark windows we can't see in.
	We don't know what's going on in that bus.
	I can tell you there are federal officials here.
	There are officials from the D.C. Department of Health.
	D.C. Fire has been on the scene and D.C. Police are on the scene.
	Now, I don't understand how this works.
	This is Washington, D.C. You'd think that in Washington, D.C., not only NBC News, but all of these police and CDC and who else they have on the scene would have at least watched the president's podcast!
	And the first step in this fight is knowing the facts.
	First, Ebola is not spread through the air like the flu.
	You cannot get it from casual contact like sitting next to someone on a bus.
	Oh!
	Well, what is this?
	Yeah, no.
	They didn't listen.
	Besides, it's not good news.
	I like rounding everybody up on a bus.
	I feel really sorry for the bulimics out there.
	Everyone's jumping on the bandwagon.
	Big time.
	Including John's Hopskin's Hip Hop.
	John Hip Hop School of Medicine.
	Michael Osterholm, he runs the Contagious Infectious Disease something or other.
	CIDRAP. And this guy, he's looking for money.
	And he has an incredible pitch.
	And this is on a big stage with lots of people who control lots of money.
	And he's just shameless about it.
	If West Africa was a can of gas waiting for a match to hit it, the rest of Central Africa is a tanker truck waiting for a match to hit it.
	And we don't quite get that yet.
	And there is no plan B. No plan B. No plan B. How would we fight this if, in fact, this were to suddenly flare up in one of these cities?
	I'm going to give you a chance right here if you know what Plan C is.
	There's no Plan B. He will tell you what Plan C is.
	I'm curious if you can already guess what Plan C will be from the Johns Hip Hop School of Medicine.
	I have no idea.
	Oh, yeah, you do.
	Along the belt in Equatorial Africa, what would we do?
	Could we fight it on two fronts?
	We can't fight it on one front.
	Oh, no!
	We suck!
	And all I'm asking for is not to divert anything from West Africa, but somebody better be thinking about a plan B. Okay.
	Where is it?
	So what's plan C? Oh, are you sure you don't know yet, John?
	Come on.
	Extermination of the continent?
	I have no idea.
	Well, ultimately, yeah, I think his plan C will result in that.
	Plan C for me is one that I think is the only hope we really have.
	Oh.
	And that's vaccine.
	But what do we need for vaccine?
	We need tons of money for all kinds of terms I've never heard of before.
	I'm convinced of it.
	Yes, I'm sure you are.
	I believe this will be an endemic disease.
	I do believe we can have an effective Ebola vaccine.
	I am convinced of that.
	I really believe we can.
	And you're the guy to do it if we spend more money.
	But there's a big disconnect between the money, the work to get us there, and the money, the time it takes to get us there, and then getting it into somebody in Africa.
	Hey, we've got to get it into somebody in Africa.
	That sounded pretty vile.
	And what we're not doing right now, we are not basically gaming this all the time.
	Yeah, you're gaming it.
	You're gaming it 100%.
	All the way through.
	When we're talking about a $57 million investment in the United States, that sounds like a lot of money.
	And I thank the United States for that.
	But that's shit money.
	Come on.
	That's a drop in the bucket if we're really interested in moving vaccine.
	And in this regard, actually, we need to be dealing with everything at the same time.
	The R&D, the potential for measuring how it's going to work, whether it's vaccine effectiveness, efficacy, however.
	How are we going to make it?
	Where are we going to make it?
	How are we going to do finish and fill?
	How are we going to actually get it to Africa?
	Will it need a cold chain?
	How will that be sustained?
	Who's going to get it to the Africans?
	I want to know that now.
	A code chain.
	Didn't he mean cold?
	I think he said code chain.
	I think he said cold.
	I think he said code.
	No, cold chain.
	It has to be refrigerated the whole way.
	We're measuring how it's going to work, whether it's vaccine effectiveness, efficacy, however...
	How are we going to make it?
	Where are we going to make it?
	How are we going to do finish and fill?
	How are we going to actually get it to Africa?
	Will it need a cold chain?
	How will that be sustained?
	Who's going to get it into the Africans?
	I want to know that now.
	I just want to know who's going to get it into the Africans.
	That sounds like a fun job.
	So while he's going on begging for money, Sam Stein, the guy that was on earlier, let me read a headline for a couple of articles.
	Oh, from the HuffPo.
	The tangled story of why Ebola vaccine research came up short.
	Uh-huh.
	Obama also pushed for CDC cuts years before the Ebola outbreak.
	Ebola vaccine would likely have been found by now if it weren't for budget cuts.
	By the Republicans, of course.
	Says the NIH director.
	And I think there's one more of these along the same lines down at the bottom.
	Hang on.
	Uh...
	Yeah, lawmakers try to save science funding.
	Anyway.
	Yeah, no, this is a...
	It's hilarious.
	These guys have, you know, it's not as though their budgets have been cut.
	We'll say it again on this show and we'll keep saying it.
	It's the increase in budgets.
	It's not even...
	It's just blame.
	It's just blame.
	Right now on CNN, lower third, Ebola as an election issue on the Cindy Candy Show.
	This is so obvious.
	So stop people who listen to this show.
	And I'll include Mickey.
	She said this morning, you could be wrong.
	I said, yeah, I could be.
	You could be wrong.
	Holy crap!
	No, that's a valid point.
	She wasn't saying, like, I'm wrong.
	She's saying, you could be wrong.
	Yeah, I could be wrong.
	You could be wrong in what way?
	That we all die from Ebola.
	We're all going to die from Ebola?
	Yeah, that's possible.
	No, it's not.
	It's not remotely possible.
	The poor girl has listened to NPR and got indoctrinated.
	It's horrible.
	Believe me, she's not saying we're stupid, we're wrong.
	No, I'm not saying that she's saying...
	She's being the voice of reason to trigger me to continue my research.
	Which we need, you know, $57 million just to drop in the bucket for the research we do here at the No Agenda show.
	We need to know if there's going to be a Coltrane, Chai Coltrane, Coldplay, Green Day.
	We need some money for this.
	Meanwhile, the funniest part of this whole thing is Ron Klain's brother, David S. Klain, who clearly is suffering from involuntary social network disorder.
	And I believe this to be his real Twitter account.
	I'm not 100% sure.
	It appears to be real.
	If you go to twitter.com slash David Klain, and look at this, he's making it very, very funny.
	How do you spell it?
	Is it D-A-V-I-D? K-L-A-I-N. And I shall read some of his tweets.
	Why would anybody put a mock...
	For him, it doesn't make sense.
	It probably is him.
	Ron won't do this!
	And he posts a picture of Bush with Mission Accomplished on the aircraft carrier.
	He's got 39 followers.
	My brother will do a great job.
	Breitbart News, fuck off!
	Instapundent, suck it!
	Our Liberty Freedom, suck it!
	Twitchy team, suck it!
	Every right-wing Republican Twitter feed or publication here.
	The Bill Heron, go fuck yourself!
	This is the guy's...
	He's like Roger Clinton.
	Stand-up guy.
	Yeah, but he's an idiot.
	Duh.
	It's like, hey, Dave, it's your bro, Ron.
	Mitch will ditch.
	Fuck him.
	How about sucko?
	Lay off the Twitter, man, for a little bit.
	Do you mind?
	Just for a little bit, man.
	Just let me get in there.
	Oh, this is so funny.
	What's that guy's name?
	The former ESPN reporter with the dreadlocks?
	Who's always on CNN now.
	Now he's the political maven.
	Keith Olbermann?
	Yeah, with the dreadlocks.
	The black Keith Olbermann with the dreadlocks.
	That guy.
	You know who I mean.
	No.
	He's a sports guy.
	I don't know anybody with dreadlocks offhand.
	That's a sports guy that does announcing.
	It's on the TVs.
	Well, he used to be on ESPN and somehow he became like the Democratic spokeshole on CNN and all things black issues.
	Oh, come on.
	Someone in the chat room should have already given this to me by now.
	This is lame.
	Are you talking about that Coronel guy?
	No, not him.
	And now they're talking now.
	Someone will come up with it.
	What's the dreadlocks that have me confused?
	Well, yeah, it's dreadlocks.
	Okay.
	When you hear it, you go, uh, Granberry?
	No, no.
	All right, anyway, go on.
	Doesn't matter.
	I'll try to find out using the Wikipedia and my search talents.
	Hold on, let me give you some search talent.
	Hold on.
	Wow, the chatroom doesn't even take the effort.
	They're just guessing.
	Hey, chatroom, you're on the computer.
	Google something.
	What a bunch of unhelpful people.
	Richard Nixon.
	Yeah, that would be him.
	And so this is truly pathetic with the Ebola response.
	It's Bob Marley.
	There you go.
	Thank you, chatroom.
	This response coordinator being a political operative who runs campaigns.
	That's what he does.
	That's what he does.
	You do not need to be afraid of a single thing.
	Really, not a single thing.
	As we've pointed out.
	And there's a reason, I believe, why all of these news channels and news programs...
	Have Granderson.
	I think it is Granderson.
	LZ Granderson.
	That's who it is.
	LZ. Oh yeah, that comes to mind.
	LZ. There's a reason why the news is all in on this and why they hyped it up and then dialed it back.
	The hype was, of course, the ratings were off the hook for these guys.
	I saw when CNN rebroadcast a C-SPAN stream of the Ebola hearings, their ratings were double.
	Double.
	And that was hearings.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You know, it's ratings bonanza.
	But now they have to dial it back because...
	Because the president told them to.
	And we have the election money coming in for the commercials.
	So we have to, you know, we have to start adjusting everything.
	Because people do not, these people care about staying in power or grabbing power, depending on who they are.
	They do not care about you.
	And they do not care about scaring you because...
	It was worth it.
	We, on the other hand, very similar to another fantastic, merific newsletter you sent out, chapeau bas again for the newsletter.
	We do not need to resort to these tactics.
	In fact, we cannot.
	We cannot even contemplate having advertising.
	Before we would not be able to tell you the absolute truth.
	Now they're getting around to it now with, what, two weeks to go?
	Could this be an election issue?
	Oh, those horrible Republicans.
	They're just hyping it up.
	And it's really not that bad now, I think.
	Just ignore everything we said before.
	They've painted themselves into a corner.
	They've ruined their own credit.
	I mean, the real key thing, and I'm sure the Democrat strategists have been thinking along these lines, these Republicans could be called out for making a big fuss about nothing.
	But they can't because the same people have been pushing it themselves, and now they look like a-holes if they point this out.
	And so they've been to actually, literally, whoever, and I don't hate to say literally, but whoever set this thing up, the Republican side, set up the media too, and the media...
	Do you think it really was a long game like that?
	No, they can't think that way.
	I don't think so either.
	I think it was just fortuitous.
	And I wonder...
	Yeah, they did.
	I wonder, someone woke up and went, hey, I got an idea.
	Stupid moron.
	They're all just horrible people.
	I'm so disappointed in democracy.
	Let's get out of here.
	And I'd like to thank you for your courage and say, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	Well, that's an interesting thing to say.
	As he opens up the spreadsheet.
	And I'll say to you, Adam Curry, in the morning to you also.
	In the morning to all ships of sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	In the morning to our chat room.
	Come on, chat room.
	Human Resources.
	Good to have you there.
	Checking us out at noagendastream.com.
	We have 915 people in the chat.
	That's a lot.
	That's the stream.
	They made me more in the chat, actually.
	No.
	Possibly.
	Possibly.
	And in the morning to our artist, 33 Timbers, who I do not believe we have chosen artwork from before.
	33 Timbers brought us...
	It was an interesting choice we had to make.
	There were many very good pieces.
	I think Nick the Rat and Martin J.J. came very close.
	But the 33 Timbers was only something we could use for this particular episode, which was the Ebola survival kit with the clipboard and your regular pants and your short-sleeved shirt.
	I don't know if that was actually...
	Yeah, this was a very debatable one.
	We couldn't use a couple of them for different kinds of reasons.
	It's hard.
	It was a tough decision.
	But this one was the best all around, I think.
	It worked.
	And please always be looking at the artwork.
	I think I forwarded you an email from Sir Ramsey Cain.
	Oh, the photos.
	Yeah, he's framed these photos, a number of no-agenda pieces of artwork, and has them on his office wall.
	And I have to say, it looks pretty smart.
	He did a really good job.
	Whoever did the framing for him...
	I think he did the framing himself.
	Well, he's a good framer, because they look very professional.
	Maybe I'll put a picture of that.
	In fact, I'll put a picture of that in the next newsletter.
	He said someone...
	Take that picture and post it.
	Let me actually...
	There was something...
	It caught my eye.
	Let me see.
	Ramsey.
	Gay Crusader says, LZ Granderson is the gay black sports guy, just so you know.
	Yeah, only our global intelligence network has this kind of information, ladies and gentlemen.
	Well, it's good to know.
	Let me take it into account.
	We got a letter from somebody.
	He says he got some 11 by 17 inch frames from Hobby Lobby and threw the compositions together in Inkscape.
	He should put the instructions up for that because it's well done.
	He should put up a how-to.
	You could give these away as Christmas gifts or winter solstice gifts.
	Or Hanukkah gifts.
	Well, I think it only works when there's a bunch of them.
	Of course.
	Just one lone one.
	It has to be a series.
	It's well done.
	I like it a lot.
	People will see the picture in the next newsletter.
	Alright, let's thank a few people for this show.
	Yes.
	The producers.
	One of them is a Black Knight.
	By the way, it should be changed to Black Knight for Terry Stelly in Mobile, Alabama.
	$1,000.
	He has a note.
	Wow.
	Instant Knight?
	He's not an Insta.
	He's an Insta Knight, yes, but he's an Insta Black Knight.
	Because this actually came in...
	What?
	Well, it doesn't happen often, but this is the second one in as many weeks.
	Well, this is because this went into the old inbox, which I only clear out once a month.
	And so I cleared it out, and their bingo boom shakalaka was $1,000.
	Did you just really say it?
	Wow, that's a first bingo.
	Bingo boom shakalaka.
	Nice, very, very good.
	You should try the other one.
	Which is just boom shakalaka?
	No, you know.
	Did you see that photo of the football field or whatever it was and had boom shakalaka?
	Boom shakalaka.
	Boom shakalaka!
	Has been around for a while, boom shakalaka.
	It's not like news.
	It's just new for our show.
	I just donated $1,000 to become an Instanite using Visa.
	I couldn't find a place to send his note because of the particular...
	Is that native advertising he's slipping in there?
	Well, I hope I get a check.
	I just can't take it anymore.
	After listening to the heartbreaking dejection in John's voice in the last show, this was like a month ago.
	Yeah.
	I realize the guilt that I had for listening to the best podcasts in the universe without fulfilling my part of the value-for-value model by not donating, and it's risen to climactic proportions, hence the instantite.
	I realize today that I think this is a speech.
	Do we have a little music for me?
	I might have that.
	I might have something for you.
	Hey, yeah, hold on.
	Okay.
	I'll give you this.
	Yeah.
	Okay, ready?
	I realize today that I must rid myself of my douche bakery to find an effort to enjoy the No Agenda show like this.
	My instant donation with my profoundest apologies.
	From henceforward, I would like to be known as Sir Terry, the cheap bastard of Mobile Bay.
	I would also like to challenge my buddy, John P. from Lafayette, who has also failed the value-for-value model.
	Accordingly, please give him a douchebag.
	Douchebag.
	And play to him this challenge.
	If he recants from his beach bag ways and starts to donate, I will match his donations dollar for dollar until he too becomes a knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	With any luck, this No Agenda Challenge will spread throughout.
	You guys can keep up the outstanding work.
	Hail Caesar!
	And then he wants a de-douching and a little girl yay.
	Oh, okay.
	Keep the music going for a moment as we all enjoy this.
	And thank you very much, sir.
	You've been de-douching.
	Yay!
	You've got karma.
	I figured he would want it.
	Well, that's a great one.
	Thank you very much.
	And thank you for your prose.
	It's beautiful.
	It's very good.
	Dollar for dollar for his buddy.
	And I look forward to the ceremonies later today.
	Yeah, great.
	Okay, now we have...
	Okay, we have a...
	This is an interesting one.
	This is Christina Gillo.
	Is this Ryan's wife?
	Yes.
	And she, I guess, gave 33333.
	We need an extra penny, I believe, but if this is calculated...
	I happen to have one right here, which I'll drop for her.
	So she's a knight.
	A dame.
	Well, a knight dame.
	And she sent a handwritten note, but unfortunately, it starts off in the morning, I may be too...
	I may have had too many glasses of wine while writing this.
	She's drunk.
	Oh, cool.
	So I have to use a big magnifying glass to read this thing.
	As promised, here are my second and third installments for the Damehood.
	Since I play roller derby...
	That's interesting.
	For the Mission City Brawlers.
	Fantastic!
	No, wait.
	The Mission City Brawlin' Bettys.
	The Brawlin' Bettys!
	Oh, wow.
	Wow.
	We need a picture of all of them.
	Yeah, with the name Chrissy.
	Chrissy Bang Bang.
	Dame Bang Bang.
	Yes.
	Did you see the picture?
	No, she sent it to you.
	I forwarded it to Eric.
	He put it in the email so you could see it again.
	Okay, I'll look at it.
	Well, should I look at it now?
	Yes!
	It's my attitude.
	Yeah, you'll like it.
	It's fantastic.
	She's Chrissy Gillo.
	Oh, there it is.
	Bang, bang.
	She's fantastic.
	Let's see what we got here.
	Hello, cowgirl.
	I wish she could do some jamming.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Some of that blocking with the elbow.
	I didn't know the roller derby thing.
	That makes it even better now.
	Yeah, I request that I be called Dame Bang Bang.
	Please give me some hookers and molly.
	Oh, I tell you these roller derby girls, man.
	Hookers and Molly?
	Yeah, Molly.
	I encourage you to make JCD's Mothers a recursive bit.
	The Chinese are buying up all the toilet paper.
	Ugh.
	Made me literally choke on my coffee.
	Finally, per Adam's complaint, I mean request, complaint, I mean request from my previous donation, I have sent photos to Adam of me, SirDHSlammer and our three human resources.
	Hope you enjoy.
	So there were really cute pictures of the kids and of Sir Gilo with his kids.
	And then there's this picture of Dame Bang Bang, which is just pretty...
	I love it.
	I love it.
	And she says at the end here, instead of a jingle request, I'd like to request a rain stick jam session of appropriate length for Santa Barbara.
	Wow, okay.
	That's a big request.
	We need rain, but not flash floods.
	Thank you for your courage.
	And then P.S. JCD catches a turkey.
	I'll dress it and cook it for him.
	All right, so we have not had this request for a long time.
	I want to point out that the rain stick...
	Very dangerous.
	Yeah, it's not entirely accurate.
	I mean, it can rain in other places as well.
	And I don't really feel like rain in Austin, but it's a request from a day.
	It can't rain anywhere.
	Ready?
	Yeah, I'm going.
	I'm going.
	and hit me.
	I've got to get to the long drugs and get some toilet paper because the Chinese are buying it up.
	I've got to get to the end.
	You've got karma.
	Alright, well, we're having nothing but fun here on the No Agenda Show.
	Next...
	In the morning.
	In the morning.
	Sir David Foley in Lost...
	Oh, man.
	I'm not ready for anything today.
	This is horrible.
	Yes, where are you?
	Well, I'm here.
	I'm here, America.
	Hashtag coming soon.
	Hashtag why is this thing not working?
	Hashtag please drag into the thing and...
	Oh, man, what's going on?
	Oh, it's the PDF. I'm trying to make a PDF play.
	I'm trying to play a PDF and it's not working.
	Citizens and slaves of Giddo Nation, please rise in recognition of Sir David Foley, Grand Duke of the United States of America.
	Fuck yeah.
	Foley!
	Now, Foley doesn't really say much.
	He sends us a cartoon, which is kind of funny.
	It's his 10th anniversary.
	I didn't get that note.
	I saw it in a posting.
	Oh, his 10th anniversary of what?
	Of his wedding anniversary.
	Oh!
	Yeah.
	Oh, congratulations.
	Yeah.
	That's great.
	I noticed that he sent you one of those little boxes.
	Oh, yeah.
	You need one of those.
	Yeah.
	But the setup, I have to talk to him about the setup.
	And I can say this now unequivocally, so I bought the cable for the 4K TV, the doubler cable that Seiki makes.
	It doesn't work.
	Oh, right after you told me to buy one.
	Well, who knew?
	You said, you gotta get one of these, it's great.
	That's what you said.
	You hadn't actually tried it.
	You're horrible.
	Do you forward links without reading the article, too?
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, there you go.
	My own fault for trusting you.
	Well, it might work on your system.
	I think it's my box.
	My Dish Network box, I think, has got some signals on it or something.
	When this thing sees the signal, it makes a white flash.
	So when you plug it in, it looks fine.
	It's beautiful, but it really does the job.
	It really cleans up the 1080p, turns it into 4K. But then bump, flash, flash, flash.
	And then you watch a little bit.
	Flash, flash, flash, flash.
	That's no good.
	It sounds like your box is faulty.
	No, I think it's just incompatible.
	This is the problem we're going to have with more and more of this stuff.
	The box is old, so it's probably HDMI whatever number that doesn't have some signal.
	And I'm going to try it on the Roku 3, and if it doesn't flash on that, then I'll keep it.
	Otherwise, I'm sending it back.
	Yeah, well, I'll have to send mine back too now.
	Well, it depends.
	You may have newer gear than I have.
	I have a Roku 3.
	Well, yeah.
	It should work on the Roku 3.
	If it doesn't, it goes back.
	I haven't connected it.
	But I did order it just blindly based on your recommendation, which now I know.
	Well, I went on the specs.
	This is the problem.
	I keep telling people never to do this.
	You published an article, which you said you would do, about the death of broadcasting.
	Yeah, what did you think?
	Oh, I thought it was spot on, as always.
	What was funny is there's a ham radio forum, and the ham guys are kind of nuts about it.
	They're just nuts.
	Broadcasting's not dead!
	We're on the air!
	Yeah, that's not exactly what he means.
	This is the mouse guy!
	Oh, really?
	No, they actually posted a link to an article where you said the cable modems would never work.
	At the time, that was very accurate.
	It was absolutely accurate at the time.
	Like in 1989 or 1995, this is 20 years ago.
	And everything you said happened.
	You picked up old stuff from 20 years ago, you know, where I said, well, this is going to work because it wasn't working.
	Yeah, it worked 20 years later.
	You can find articles, interviews of me where I say, I'll never get married.
	And you've been married twice!
	Well, I'm still married, thank you very much.
	Although, that's questionable if you read the press.
	Well, that's only the Dutch press.
	Nobody here gives a crap.
	A number of people had seen this.
	Here.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, yeah.
	The mouse guy.
	You know how they heard about it?
	What douchebags are saying this?
	I'm going to put it on my blacklist.
	It's an amateur radio Reddit.
	Oh, pfft.
	Yeah, that means it was a Macintosh guy.
	These guys hold a garage, it's unbelievable.
	By the way, the mouse will be dead eventually.
	Oh yeah, it's already happening.
	We have touch screens.
	So yeah, it will come around.
	Yeah.
	Wow, what a visionary that guy was.
	When you're dead.
	And finally, we got for our last associate executive producer for show 662 is Trevor Mudge from Ann Arbor, Michigan for $200.
	I do not have a note or anything.
	Let me see if I have anything for Trevor Mudge.
	We don't have a very sophisticated system.
	Trevor's part of the No Agenda Club, I believe, that has been set up that meets every so often in Michigan.
	Oh, okay.
	No, I do not have a Trevor email.
	All right, Trevor, you got something sent to us.
	Yeah, I don't have a Trevor email.
	Sorry.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	Very nice group.
	Thank you very much to our executive producers and associate executive producers.
	These are the credits that are real.
	This is the only way the show works properly.
	Explain a little bit what you had in the newsletter.
	People, you're missing out if you're not subscribed to this newsletter.
	I have people subscribing to the newsletter who are just interested in the news, not even the content, just the newsletter.
	They love how they make their own newsletter.
	They learn from your newsletter.
	And I think you had an opening.
	What was your title?
	Check this out.
	How was the open rate on that?
	How did that do?
	I don't know yet.
	I give it one week for total.
	You can only do that once a year.
	You can't, like, do one.
	Well, it's like the other couple of big singers.
	I've been working on my headlines, and I study them, which is you have to do it.
	You won't believe...
	And by A-B comparisons.
	I'll tell you, if anybody wants to know the number one draw headline ever, and it's with a huge open rate.
	I talked to some other people who do direct mail.
	I know what it is.
	I know what it is.
	Yeah, of course you know what it is.
	I told you what it is.
	Pictures of Adam.
	Pictures of Adam falling overboard.
	A picture of you in the water.
	That's the one that got the most people.
	I want to see this wet bastard in the water.
	For all these people who are like, yeah, man, we got to fight the government, fight the power, save the world.
	Pictures of Adam falling overboard?
	Yeah!
	That's the ticket.
	How shallow you all are.
	It's actually embarrassing.
	It kind of is.
	But a great newsletter.
	And once again, you explained very clearly why we don't have the commercial model of advertising, which I'll talk about later, the native advertising.
	Very interesting article I want to read a couple paragraphs from.
	I'll do that in our second segment when we thank everybody who has come in this week with their support.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. You can find out all different ways to support the show and keep us on the air.
	And if you derive some value in the five, six hours of media deconstruction we give you every week, most people really enjoy it because you're in the car.
	Radio sucks.
	Broadcasting is dead, so I hear it.
	I would recommend people read that article.
	It's running in PC Magazine.
	It's called, I don't know what it says, The Depth of Broadcasting or something.
	It changed the headline a little bit on me.
	And it discusses, you know, what's going on.
	And the trend is obvious to me, and it's not unstoppable.
	There's one thing you could have mentioned, because a lot of people say, yeah, but, you know, SiriusXM, this is really, you know, this is the way to go.
	And there's a reason why it's called SiriusXM is because they could not exist as a competing entity, so they had to merge.
	And these satellites, they need to be replaced eventually.
	And these guys, what are they in debt?
	$10 billion?
	They're way in debt.
	An insane amount?
	And it's more or less the same model, only it's national.
	I mean, the problem with terrestrial, obviously, is it has limited...
	Range and reach.
	But with the satellite, you can hit the whole country.
	But you can't go indoors unless you have the indoors hookup.
	And it's expensive to do.
	Like you said, the satellites have to be replaced.
	They're hard to maintain.
	When these things really need to be replaced, I think one is named Rock and the other is named Roll.
	Get it?
	It's Rock and Roll up there in the sky, everybody.
	They're going to have to be replaced.
	And I don't think they'll be able to get the funding to do it.
	No, I think when they have to be replaced, that's going to be the end of it.
	And they're going to look at the internet model, which is what we use.
	And you look at Clear Channel, they're also billions of dollars in debt.
	They own most of the terrestrial radio stations around this country.
	Yeah, they bought them all up.
	They had a great scheme.
	Yeah, for a while.
	At the beginning, it was great.
	For a while, it was great.
	They bought all these stations up, and then they centralized the programming, so they essentially fire everybody in all the little operations all over the country, and put in some central programs that were semi...
	They were more or less...
	Syndicated, but they owned the syndication system.
	Right.
	And so we'd go to all these stations, and it would save everybody a lot of money.
	It looked good on paper, and it was a money-making idea until people started listening, and they said, this stinks.
	That's the problem.
	Hey, this stinks.
	This stinks.
	Why am I listening to this?
	Just a quick PR before we move on to the...
	And I want to thank you, Adam Curry, by the way, for the USB stick that you sent me.
	Oh, did you stick it in yet?
	Have you listened to it?
	I'm sorry?
	Have you listened to what's on yet?
	No, not yet, but I'm looking forward to it after today's show.
	Well, let's just thank Miss Mickey for taking it to the post office and mailing it.
	Holler her butt to the post office.
	Well, she said, I'm going to the post office.
	Need anything?
	I'm like, oh, crap, the thing I promised, John.
	Yeah.
	I don't know if we promoted this.
	I can't remember, but there's a book.
	Which is available in print and Kindle called No Agenda Saving America Shut Up Slaves by Mr.
	Tom Kilbride.
	Did we ever promote that?
	I can't really remember.
	I don't remember promoting it.
	Did he call us to promote it?
	Did he send us emails?
	He probably did.
	We never opened them.
	No, I'm pretty good at opening my emails.
	I just can't really remember.
	I am too.
	I read all my email.
	Yeah, sure.
	Let me read you the Amazon blurb.
	For more than six years, media assassins Crackpot, Adam Curry, and Buzzkill, John C. Dvorak, have performed the twice-weekly podcast No Agenda Show, a discussion of current events or whatever they feel like talking about, from wine to chemtrails.
	Ha, ha.
	That's our show in a nutshell.
	In this fictional account, they are recruited by the CIA to help foil an evil plot to create turmoil in the American population by taking down the Internet's most popular site.
	The story has adventure, intrigue, foreign travel, spies, and assassins.
	So shut up, slaves, and buy this book, if not today, in the morning.
	You know what he forgot?
	Where's the sex?
	He needs sex in a book like this.
	Yeah, he needs sex.
	Yeah.
	I bet you there's no sex in this book.
	Anyway, there's a link in the show notes.
	Check it out.
	Interesting how this works.
	So if you have the Amazon Kindle All You Can Eat, which I don't have, it's free.
	That thing seems like a scam.
	What, the free thing?
	You get a certain amount of Kindle books free, not all books in the world.
	I know.
	I take advantage of this.
	Really?
	I'm a Kindle fan.
	I have a Kindle, but do you have the upgrade of all the books they will give you, which is not all books in the world for free?
	Did you get that?
	It's just part of Prime, I believe.
	No, no, no, no.
	Oh, I don't know.
	All I know is I get an email once a week saying, here's your free books.
	No, you get that with Prime.
	This is Kindle Unlimited.
	Oh, no, I did not subscribe to that.
	Subscribers read for $3.33 to buy.
	That's $3.33.
	All right, fine.
	$3.33.
	Okay, got it.
	Thank you, everybody.
	We appreciate this.
	We thank you, Profuse.
	And we have another show on Thursday and another thank you segment coming up in this program.
	Dvorak.org slash N-A. We can always use a little bit of propagation of the formula, so go out there and do what you gotta do.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Order.
	Shut up, flame.
	Shut up.
	Fear is freedom.
	Subjugation is liberation.
	Contradiction is truth.
	Those are the facts of this world.
	And you will all surrender to them.
	Pins in human clothing!
	It was worth it.
	Since we're talking about the newsletter, I put a kind of a snide remark in there about the Boko Haram and the girls saying they're probably tired of listening to 200 girls bitching.
	And so I ended up getting a clip from the news hour.
	Good.
	Which kind of said the same thing.
	Listen to Boko Haram and the girls.
	This guy's from the Atlantic Council, and they're discussing Boko Haram.
	Whereabouts?
	I'm being told that the girls, the release of the girls, which is a priority of the Nigerian government and of the international community, will be the lead-off in the talks that will take place next week in Chad, hosted by that country's president.
	I presume that the girls, if you look at the situation militarily, operationally, have become a burden to their captors, moving about 200 girls while you're fighting a war, even if you've been scoring some spectacular successes on the battlefield, is a burden.
	So Boko Haram would very much like to get rid of them.
	Are you kidding me?
	All right.
	It hasn't happened in too long, but I'm giving you Clip of the Day for that one.
	That is well worth it.
	Excellent job, sir.
	Well played.
	So these are the guys who cut off people's heads.
	They shoot people.
	They rape and pillage.
	Oh no, not 200 schoolgirls bickering.
	Like, oh, we can't take it anymore.
	And of course, it's bullcrap.
	There are no girls.
	It was a studio chop job to begin with.
	We talked about the background being all wrong.
	Tight shot to crop out the buildings of this so-called secret place that no one could find.
	And where is Michelle Obama?
	Hashtag bring back our girls.
	I see pictures from Nigeria with parents saying, or I don't know if they're parents.
	Who knows?
	It could be bogus.
	But at least I've seen pictures with people.
	Hashtag there are no girls.
	This is bullcrap.
	It was just to get the financial advisors, the combat troops, into Nigeria, where we have a volatile government who is stealing billions of dollars worth of oil.
	Yes.
	Can't have that.
	No, and we're in control.
	We're the ones that are supposed to steal billions of dollars worth of oil.
	Hey, really?
	Hey!
	Hey!
	Get off our clouds!
	You guys hornin' in on this!
	Play the part, too, because it just summarizes it.
	Of course.
	And in exchange, possibly demand the release and likely of some of their commanders who will capture it.
	Just to fill in on that, if I ask you why it's happening now or why it might happen now, what's the situation on the ground in terms of relative strength and weaknesses of Boko Haram and the government at this point?
	Well, on Boko Haram's side, in the last several weeks and months, Boko Haram has successfully carved out a large territory, not only in Bordo state, but neighboring Yobe and Atomawa states.
	Virtually encircling the capital of Bordo, Maiduguri, a city of over a million people.
	Not cutting off entirely, but making life rather miserable for the people there.
	Gaining territorial hold, and even reportedly, although it has to be confirmed, shooting down a Nigerian Air Force fighter jet at the beginning of September.
	What is this guy talking about?
	I don't know.
	That's bull.
	To get some towns surrounded.
	Yeah, well we knew, what did I have here, I had...
	I have a link here.
	Cautious optimism over Nigeria's kidnapped girls.
	I guess they finally come up with some kind of ceasefire.
	The whole thing is bullcrap.
	Like we predicted.
	Bullcrap.
	And while we're on this, before we get anything else, I need to say something.
	Please, do not email us anymore about Gamergate.
	No.
	And I'll tell you why.
	And we've looked at this a couple times.
	It's very difficult sometimes, and both John and I, I think we catch ourselves like, oh crap, it was so obvious I should have looked at that.
	So we do train ourselves to look past the obvious, to find something, then there might be something behind it.
	In this case, Boo-hoo, gamer boys and girls.
	The media's corrupt.
	Girls think boys are stupid.
	Boys think girls are icky.
	Whatever.
	Oh, I got cyberbullied and threatened on Twitter.
	Get off of Twitter, you douchebags!
	If you're so worried about women and games and gaming, why don't you shut down porn?
	Why don't we do that?
	Gamergate porn.
	Just shut it down, because that's all that this is.
	And I know, any guy out there who is gaming, look at yourself very carefully in the mirror and tell me, That after a couple hours of Call of Duty, of World of Warcraft, you don't flip over to porn and relieve yourself.
	Because that's what it is.
	It's all porn.
	It's all porn.
	I love you, but it's porn.
	And that's what it is.
	And get over it already.
	Who cares?
	I'm not a gamer.
	John's not a gamer.
	We have no standing in the community.
	We don't know what this is about.
	But everything I can see is, oh, it's misogyny, whatever, threatening.
	Just stop.
	Go away.
	Go back to your game.
	Go back to your porn.
	And get over yourself.
	The media is crap, huh?
	Did I sum that up properly?
	Yeah, I think it's close enough.
	I mean, the point I made when somebody tried to get me involved in this was that, like you said, we don't have standing, meaning we're not in the community to comment on it at this level.
	At all.
	And we don't have any way of getting standing.
	What's the point?
	But when you look at it...
	There are other people that can talk about it and let them talk about it.
	And when they talk about it, I get the same thing.
	What?
	You're talking about nothing.
	About someone threatening you on Twitter.
	Well, turn off Twitter and you won't be threatened.
	Get off Twitter.
	You won't have any of these bullying problems.
	If you turn off Twitter, you won't be threatened by Twitter.
	It's that simple.
	Am I nuts that I don't...
	The guy's coming to the door.
	Exactly.
	There's a brick through the window.
	Now, something did happen that I almost had...
	In fact, it took me several times until...
	One of our Dutch listeners sent me this clip, and I replied to him saying, man, really?
	Yeah, he said something like, you know, Barama is a charismatic leader.
	Barama.
	I just said Barama.
	You did.
	You said Barama.
	I like it.
	I don't...
	Okay, President Barama.
	This might stick.
	Yeah, it's Barack Obama.
	Barama.
	You've heard that before.
	You'd think I would have.
	And I played this clip, and I went back and said, you know, this is such a dick.
	And then I played this clip again, and I played it again, and I went, wait a minute!
	Listen, the president was at a signing ceremony, and he talked about how his credit card was declined in a restaurant in New York, which of course we know was not true.
	No, it can't be true.
	Why would he pull out a credit card?
	But it's a joke, and so I was initially, I'm just like, ugh, I'm a douchebag, but listen to the whole piece.
	Rich, I should mention, by the way, that I went to a restaurant up in New York when I was wearing the U.N. General Assembly.
	And my credit card was rejected.
	It turned out I guess I don't use it enough.
	So I thought there was some fraud going on.
	Fortunately, Michelle had hers.
	Okay.
	He'll be here all the week.
	Now, when I listen to this again, and I went, wait a minute.
	Listen to all these people who are laughing insincerely.
	Who are these people?
	Just listen again.
	Listen again.
	Alright, so who are these?
	You tell me there's a laugh track.
	No, I'm telling you, these are people who are extremely happy, but they're kind of like, ha ha ha ha!
	Sign it, sign it, sign it, sign it!
	Keep telling the jokes, can you finish signing it, please?
	Finish the signing.
	What was the president signing?
	Now, I took the time, because these sound like people who are way too happy.
	The president was signing an executive order, John.
	Uh-oh.
	And the executive order is improving the security of consumer financial transactions.
	Seems innocuous enough.
	Ah, that's hence the reason for the joke.
	That's the reason for the joke, which of course we know is not true.
	And let me...
	We've discussed this before, and this will take you right into the executive order.
	The total amount of credit and debit card fraud in the United States...
	On an annual basis is about $4 billion.
	Right.
	The cost to upgrade all American terminals to the chip and pin system used universally in Europe and other places around the world would be a multiplier of that.
	Unless, of course, as a banker, you can get the president to sign an executive order.
	Whoa, what was that?
	Somebody took a shot at you.
	Yeah, they missed.
	Unless, of course, you can get the president to sign an executive order, which does some of the following things.
	Allow me, let me just zoom this for a second so I can look at it a little bigger.
	Is it as big as it will go?
	Here we go.
	Improving the security of consumer financial transactions.
	This is just the executive order.
	There's also a fact sheet.
	Given that identity crimes, including credit, debit, and other payment card fraud, continue to be a risk to U.S. economic activity, and given the economic consequences of data breaches, the United States must take further action to enhance the security of the data in the financial marketplace.
	Government must further strengthen the security of consumer data and encourage the adoption of enhanced safeguards nationwide in a manner that protects privacy and confidentiality while maintaining an efficient and innovative financial system.
	By the authority vested in me as President, by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to improve the security of consumer financial transactions in both the private and public sectors, it is hereby orders followed.
	Now, it's a lot of gobbledygook, but secure government payments.
	In order to better protect citizens doing business with the government, executive departments and agencies shall, as soon as possible, transition payment processing terminals as credit, debit, and other payment cards to employ enhanced security features, i.e.
	all government will now use government money to upgrade their terminals.
	Do you know what this includes, John?
	What does the government use to In all places around the nation, in many, many retail outlets, where do they use this, which is a de facto part of the government agencies and their payment processing terminals?
	That is the EBT, the electronic benefits...
	Ah, the social security system.
	Correct.
	all done on credit and debit cards processed by JPMorgan Chase, or they were done by Chase.
	The Secretary of the Treasury shall take necessary steps to ensure that Direct Express prepaid debit cards for administering government benefits have enhanced security features.
	And by January 1, 2015, the Department of the Treasury shall develop a plan for the replacement of Direct Express prepaid debit cards without enhanced security features.
	Other agencies with credit, debit, and other payment card programs shall provide the Office of Management and Budget plans for ensuring that their credit debit and payment cards have enhanced security features.
	John, this is a bailout of the banks.
	Thank you.
	To ensure that Walmart, Home Depot, all the places where EBT cards, anything but McDonald's, I think, maybe McDonald's even access them as well for certain types of food, will be upgraded at the cost of the government.
	And that's why everybody's laughing.
	That's interesting.
	Yeah, they're laughing because this is a bonanza.
	But they don't have to pay for it.
	And, to add insult to injury...
	Section 2 of the Executive Order, Improved Identity Theft Remediation.
	Now, I'll read you a bit from the Executive Order, then I'll read you from the fact sheet.
	To reduce the burden on consumers who have been victims of identity theft, including by substantially reducing the amount of time necessary for a consumer to remediate typical incidents, by February 15, 2015, The Attorney General,
	in coordination with the Secretary of Homeland Security, shall issue guidance to promote regular submissions, as appropriate and permitted by law, by federal law enforcement agencies of compromised credentials to the National Cyber Forensics and Training Alliance Internet Fraud Alert Systems.
	So when there is a cyber theft, a break-in at a retail outlet, all credentials...
	That have been compromised will be shared with the government.
	Nice!
	That is so wrong!
	This is wrong!
	And then you look at the fact sheet, who's really...
	This is the new BuySecure initiative.
	So be on the lookout for that term and that trademark around.
	You know how I buy secure?
	Yeah, with cash.
	Of course.
	Information sharing.
	The president's executive order further directs expanding information sharing, ensuring federal investigators' ability to regularly report evidence of stolen financial and other information to companies whose customers are directly affected.
	So they'll be sharing stolen passwords with other companies.
	This is completely idiotic.
	MasterCard will be providing us customers with free identity theft monitoring and credit resolution support.
	This is where supporting credit score transparency.
	They're now tying everything together with Citibank.
	Helping customers catch one of the best early indicators of identity theft, Citibank, in partnership with FICO, will begin making credit scores available for free to its consumer card customers.
	So go out and go get a Citibank card, please.
	They're promoting Citibank because they'll give you a free FICO report, which is now going to be as important as your SAT scores, as important as anything.
	It's ridiculous.
	I feel so sorry for everybody coming along and have put up with this nonsense.
	Beginning in January, Citi, in partnership with FICO, will be making free credit scores available online to consumers with Citi-branded credit cards.
	This is the White House promoting Citibank-branded credit cards.
	Nobody sees this as the absolute maximized version of what you'd call corruption?
	And total control over your money?
	By Citibank.
	This score will be updated monthly and is the same score Citicard uses in its lending decisions.
	So it makes sense.
	If you want to get more credit, you should probably have a Citicredit card because those guys are making decisions based upon me having that product.
	It's obscene and, of course, not reported anywhere.
	I don't see Cindy Candy or Farig Jerkaria.
	I don't see anyone talking about this.
	No one.
	No, I heard a lot of bankers laughing while...
	Just sign it.
	Just sign it.
	Buy executive order.
	All right.
	Complete bailout.
	This is the...
	You get a point for this one.
	Thank you.
	In fact, all the other stuff, as interesting as it is, this particular little thing, because you were, I don't know, obsessing on these guys laughing, and it has led to this discovery, is outrageous.
	Well, I believe...
	It's outrageous.
	Of course, it's not true.
	I believe someone gave the president the joke.
	So the joke has been reported.
	The joke has got legs.
	But no one is reporting on what the joke was distracting from.
	The joke was distracting from these billions of dollars.
	I believe it will be between 8 and 10 billion dollars.
	That's just the estimate.
	It'll probably be double that because now it's government money.
	Woohoo!
	Who gives a crap?
	Double bill.
	Overbill.
	To implement this, for every single electronic benefits card, the EBT's...
	I mean, how many of these cards...
	Well, let's consult the Book of Knowledge.
	How many EBT cards are in use today?
	I'm going to say that's quite a lot.
	No, billions.
	No, not billions.
	Billions.
	How many EBT cards are in use?
	Survey says...
	44 million.
	Wow.
	That's a lot.
	Yeah.
	And it's used everywhere.
	And everywhere that an agency, and these are agency-approved terminals that they have at these places.
	It's most places, most food outlets for sure, take the electronic benefit transfer.
	And they will get at least a subsidy, if not a complete overhaul, for free.
	Because the executive order allows all agencies, Treasury and everyone's involved, to make regulations and appropriate funds to do these types of things.
	We've seen this with the climate change.
	The climate change executive orders have resulted in billions of dollars on an annual basis for climate change research and vacations, or whatever these people do.
	They're just raping the American public.
	Yeah.
	We're raping the taxpayer.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So that was...
	Thank you very much, everybody, for sending me this clip, irritating me with this clip, until I finally caught on, and I was surprised by my own inadequacy of not immediately thinking, wow, why is this taking place?
	And this is what we do.
	And because of our global intelligence news network, We're able to do these things.
	And also, I don't think a lot...
	If you look at the amount of commercials for Chase and MasterCard and Visa and American Express and Citibank, I don't think you'll see a lot of analysis of this executive order on commercial news channels and programs.
	No, you won't see it anywhere, let's face it.
	That might cut down a little bit of the advertising money, or they might have to do a make-good...
	There you go.
	Rape.
	No one cares.
	And how can we so easily put that together, yet we only have $57 million for Ebola?
	You know why?
	Because it's not true.
	It's bullcrap.
	And there's your fact.
	I had to get a clip.
	You creeped me out with this.
	I didn't mean to insult you.
	No, I just find it...
	No, you didn't insult me.
	The government just did.
	Here's the first part of a Viagra commercial with this creepy woman.
	There's got to be something you can take out of there.
	Maybe combine it with something, the Kiki.
	Oh, yes.
	I'll try.
	But this is this disgusting Viagra commercial that I just find...
	For one thing, there's a...
	Moderately attractive British woman, that's probably 40 if she's a day, doing this commercial, staring at the camera, using the word like you and your honey, which I don't...
	When was that?
	The 70s?
	And just here, just play the beginning of this.
	This is what everyone in the sports world is bitching about.
	They don't want to see on TV. So guys, it's just you and your honey.
	The setting is perfect.
	But then, erectile dysfunction happens again.
	You know what?
	Plenty of guys have this issue.
	Not just getting an erection, but keeping it.
	Well, Viagra helps guys with ED get and keep an erection.
	Yeah, it's a boner pill.
	Well, we know that.
	But what's the point of this woman?
	Is she selling it?
	I mean, I look at her and go, gee, I can see why you can't keep an erection if you've got her around.
	No offense, lady.
	It's honesty in advertising.
	It's a boner pill, and instead of talking about ED or erectile dysfunction, now she's just flat out saying it.
	You are a loser.
	She's probably good looking.
	She's probably sexy.
	She's not sexy.
	No?
	I don't think so.
	Is she not milfy in a certain way?
	You might find her remotely sexy, but I find her to be offensive.
	Well, of course, because, yeah, of course it's offensive.
	But it's selling sex.
	It's selling you are a loser.
	Well, you have to see this commercial to appreciate.
	You won't like it either.
	No, I don't.
	But I have to say, at this point in my life, I'm ready to try some Viagra.
	Alright, well, try some.
	I'm interested.
	It'll cause a heart attack.
	That's what I'm thinking.
	It will not be a pleasurable experience.
	No, no.
	Most guys really like it.
	I'll be the guy that has the four-hour erection.
	Come on, I can't do the show just yet.
	There's no blood in my brain.
	So I went back and got some old clips from four or five years ago from our own show.
	And I realized that things have gotten worse, even though the unemployment's gone down and all the rest, even though we know the numbers are bullcrap.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I got this clip.
	This is the food bank news story.
	This is a commercial of some sort.
	For something that we don't even have commercials for anymore, because we've gone from this, which you're going to play, which is the Food Bank commercial, Food Bank clip.
	We've gone from this, which is bad enough depression food, to mac and cheese.
	Hello!
	Why don't you try a home-cooked meal with yummy hamburger helper?
	Ta-da!
	Fantastically tasty, huh?
	Mmm, that's good.
	What would you guys like?
	Hamburger helper.
	What?
	One pound, one pan, one tasty meal!
	In America, one in six people struggle with not having enough food.
	That's why I've teamed up with Feeding America and Hamburger Helper.
	When you buy Hamburger Helper, you can help Feeding America deliver a meal to a local food bank.
	Visit this website to see how you can help.
	Well, that's the next obvious step, is to help the food bank with that Kraft cardboard and powder.
	39 cent mac and cheese dinner.
	And now there's the Glorious Restaurant, which I have the news article here.
	The Glorious Restaurant, is that mainly in New York?
	They serve only mac and cheese.
	There's a mac and cheese only place in Los Angeles, too.
	Maybe it's the chain.
	And it's all just mac and cheese.
	And...
	Yeah, we're going from the Great Recession to the actual Depression, and it is upon us when you have this.
	But it has a different stature.
	Mac and cheese is an American staple of poverty, but it's an American staple.
	Yeah, kale.
	Vitamin K. Exactly.
	There's another bill that I caught that I thought was kind of interesting.
	Maybe it was just only a Texas bill.
	Let me see.
	Was that...
	No, no, it's a bill in the, maybe it's, is it Congress or House of Representatives?
	Yeah.
	This is the, no, it's a Senate bill.
	2826.
	SB 2826?
	Just S.2826.
	Strengthening Forgiveness for Public Servants Act.
	I'm sorry, give me the number again.
	S.2826.
	And this is the Strengthening Forgiveness for Public Servants Act, and this is a part of the President's push for millennials to get them to vote, obviously.
	You're 18, you can vote.
	Can you vote?
	You're 18, it's going to be 21.
	18?
	Yeah, 18.
	So now, along with your student debt, which we push you into as quickly as possible, We are now going to amend the Higher Education Act of 1965 to provide for a percentage of student loan forgiveness for public service employment.
	Oh, right.
	Yeah, I remember this.
	I remember when this started going through.
	This is Blumenthal.
	And Ms.
	Warren.
	This is Pocahontas.
	Oh, Pocahontas, right.
	She had something.
	Yeah, this is part of her thing.
	She'll be bragging about this.
	Ah, you know, the poor kids.
	Look what I did.
	If you work...
	So this is about cancellation of your student loan debt.
	And if you work as a government employee, I got the numbers here.
	Two years of employment, 15% of the total debt will be erased.
	Big deal.
	Four years of employment, 15% of the total amount due on the date the board commenced employment.
	Oh, wow.
	Oh, wow.
	You said, oh, wow, again.
	I'm sorry.
	I shall stop that.
	Six years employment as a Fed, 20% of your loan, and it goes up to...
	Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	You're telling me, what was it, three years you get 15% and then six years, it's a total of 20 or 20 of what's left over?
	Let me take a look.
	Or is it 20 of the total?
	I think it's 20.
	It's 20% of the total amount due.
	Eight years is...
	After the 15 is taken out?
	That may be.
	I'm not...
	Okay, never mind.
	It's probably too...
	You have to read too much for the show.
	Ten years, up to 30% of the total amount will be erased.
	So this is perfect.
	You're a debt slave from the moment you go in, you come out, hey, work for the government, and we'll erase your debt.
	But they erase it...
	The way I read it is...
	In the case of a borrower who completes 10 years of employment, 30% of the total amount due on the eligible federal direct loan on the date the borrower commenced employment, whatever you owed when you went into federal employment, 30% of that will be stricken, not the interest over the 10 years that you were in employment.
	But still, yeah.
	That's the way I read it.
	The whole thing's a scam.
	And by the way, I'm going to say it again.
	It's a scam.
	Well, besides that, I do say that probably excessively.
	But I want to remind everyone that during this last Columbus Day holiday, Indigenous Peoples Day locally, the freeways were cleared out.
	And it seems as though it's not...
	This boom that we have is not a tech boom, but it's a government workers boom and bankers because the highways were clear.
	And it wasn't, you know, I was thinking, well, there's so many tech jobs opening up.
	It's all, you know, coming back, you know, we're out of the depression.
	And then they take a banker's holiday, and the next thing you know, the freeways are clear, but everybody that worked in tech was working.
	They didn't take the day off.
	No, we didn't take the day off.
	No, we didn't take the day off.
	I was working.
	Anyway, so there's too many guys, yeah.
	I don't know.
	Some point this is going to collapse.
	Oh, total doom, you say?
	And it's going to happen soon.
	Our baronet Tim Tillman sent me a note.
	He says, the Obama joke more than meets the ear.
	It continued the fallacy that he is nothing without his wife.
	His wife's card worked, of course, because she's smarter, better, faster, and stronger than he is.
	No, he always defers to the ladies.
	At the same time, the joke went a little further by saying his car didn't work because he never uses it, followed by, luckily Michelle had hers, implies that Michelle uses hers all the time, like a typical woman.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Exactly.
	It's a joke that fits for whatever the audience wants.
	That's very good deconstruction.
	Very good deconstruction.
	Of just about five lines.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And meanwhile, everybody's laughing, but we just missed the whole scam-a-rooney.
	That's nice.
	Oh, well.
	Well, let's play a little, let's keep up with Libya, so we keep people up to speed on what's going on in that country, which is falling apart.
	Of course, that's the one we liberated, thanks to Hillary's, whatever they call it, sunrise, Arab sunrise.
	Well, it's, let me see.
	And the clip begins with the letter semicolon.
	Yes, I've noticed the clip.
	Here it comes.
	A new UN-led initiative in Libya has been announced in hopes of stopping fighting in the capital Tripoli while providing humanitarian aid.
	Meanwhile, in the eastern city of Benghazi, renegade Libyan general Khalifa Hiftar continues his assault on splinter militia groups.
	At least 40 people have been killed in four days of fighting there.
	Hiftar was a former general under Gaddafi who rebelled against him during Libya's revolution.
	Now, Hiftar has called on locals to take up arms against Islamist groups, including Ansar al-Ashiri, who's been designated a terrorist organization by the U.S. We came, we saw, we died.
	We killed that sorry son of a bitch.
	Good work.
	Oh, that worked out perfect.
	Well, we got the Chiners out.
	Well, and that was the main...
	And I guess we...
	How was the oil production?
	And we rubble-ized.
	That's why I'm looking for other things, man.
	It's crazy.
	It's all about...
	It's all the same thing.
	Rubble-ize here, rubble-ize there.
	Right.
	Rip the people off.
	Yeah.
	Let's see what I find.
	Oh, um...
	I did have a fun little...
	Our hero, Matt.
	Matt Lee.
	Not the Matt and Marie show, unfortunately.
	They put the kibosh on that.
	She has to do appearances on some shows.
	I think she still hangs out with Brawl from time to time.
	Jen Psaki is back.
	You'll recall Chuck Hagel had this speech that I played a few bits from Begging for Money at the luncheon where no one was paying attention.
	There was something he said in there, and Matt Lee, hero of the Awakened, not due for a long life, I think, if he keeps this up, Matt Lee picked up on the same thing I heard in this, and I'll play this very quick clip from Chuck Hagel, our Secretary of Defense of the United States of Gitmo Nation.
	Threats from terrorists and insurgents will remain with us for a long time.
	But we also must deal with a revisionist Russia, with its modern and capable army on NATO's doorstep.
	A revisionist Russia, which is a good title, with their army on NATO's doorstep, Well, that's not Russia's fault.
	Well, thank you.
	You may now have a beer with Matt Lee.
	So the State Department, with Jen Psaki, decided it's a good idea to bring Rear Admiral John Kirby into the State Department briefing to talk about Russia and Ukraine.
	And I think John Kirby has never watched, has no idea, it was not briefed on Matt and Lee.
	He has certainly never watched the Matt and Marie show.
	And I found this to be one of the most enjoyable few minutes of television I've seen in the past month.
	And I, again, raised my glass in a toast to the AP diplomatic writer and journalist, Matthew Lee.
	What he meant by calling revisionist Russia?
	Revisionist Russia?
	Yeah, what does that mean?
	The Secretary?
	Yeah, Secretary Hagel.
	I think what he's referring to there is that there appears to be in their intentions and their motives a calling back to the glory days of the Soviet Union.
	He also used that phrase, its army, meaning Russia's army on NATO's doorstep.
	Why is that?
	Is it not logical to look at this and say the reason that the Russian army is at NATO's doorstep is because NATO has expanded rather than the Russians expanding?
	And now you see Kirby with all his fruit salad going, oh crap, who's this guy?
	Who let him in?
	Where's my Pentagon press corps?
	Barbara Starr, who just repeats everything I say with her big head!
	Oh no, who's this guy?
	In other words, NATO has moved closer to Russia rather than Russia moving closer to NATO. Is that not an accurate way to look at this?
	I think that's the way President Putin probably looks at it.
	Oh, try it!
	Oh, really?
	Boo!
	Boo!
	What?
	Now, Matt is now...
	That's how you piss off Matt Lee.
	You don't call him Putin.
	The way that we look at it.
	You don't think that NATO has expanded eastward toward Russia?
	NATO has expanded.
	And the expansion has been a good thing for...
	So the reason that the Russian army is at NATO's doorstep is not the fault of the Russian army.
	It's not the Russian army that's done it.
	It's NATO has moved closer to...
	I'm pretty sure it wasn't NATO who was ordering, you know, upwards of 15 battalion tactical groups to within 10 kilometers of the border with Ukraine.
	And I'm pretty sure it wasn't NATO who put little green men inside Ukraine.
	Does he realize the absurdity of what he's saying now?
	Little green men!
	Are you really an admiral?
	Little green men?
	...with Ukraine, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't NATO who put little green men inside Ukraine to destabilize eastern cities.
	Oh, we all know that was the Kagans.
	The Ukraine is not a member of NATO. So, unless that's changed...
	It's not changed, but I'm pretty sure the movement by Russia...
	If NATO has moved east, the reason that the Russian army is closer or on NATO's doorstep is because NATO moved.
	NATO is not an anti-Russia alliance.
	NATO is a security alliance.
	For 50 years it was an anti-Soviet alliance.
	So do you not understand how or can you not even see how the Russians would perceive it as a threat?
	And the fact that it keeps getting closer to their border while their troops...
	Are you ready for the meltdown?
	Here comes Kirby's meltdown.
	The places where their troops are, you say their troops are, and may have been in Ukraine and Georgia, are not made up.
	I'm not going to pretend to know what goes in President Putin's mind or Russian military commanders.
	I mean, I barely got a history degree at the University of South Florida.
	Oh, man.
	Oh, man.
	How pathetic is it now?
	He barely got a history degree at the University of South Florida?
	Why is he doing this?
	Isn't that stupid?
	It's a meltdown.
	This is a meltdown for a rear admiral to say this.
	This is a meltdown.
	What I can tell you is that...
	Basaki laughing uncomfortably at his idiotic joke.
	What goes in President Putin's mind are Russian military commanders.
	I mean, I barely got a history degree at the University of South Florida.
	What I can tell you is that NATO is a defensive alliance.
	It remains a defensive alliance.
	Fair enough, but it has moved east, correct?
	I mean, that's just a fact.
	It has expanded, absolutely.
	Right, exactly.
	But there's no reason for anybody to think the expansion is a hostile or threatening move.
	And we've been saying that throughout the last 15 years, Matt.
	You're moving closer to Russia.
	You're blaming the Russians for being close to NATO. No, no, no.
	That's exactly what Hagle said.
	We're blaming the Russians for violating the territorial integrity of Ukraine and destabilizing the security situation inside Europe.
	Which is not a NATO member.
	Other countries feel threatened.
	Other countries feel threatened.
	Now, Matt, play along nicely because other countries feel threatened.
	And when NATO feels threatened, we all say we have to do something about it, Matt.
	This is not okay what you're doing here.
	There's no winning.
	We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot.
	Now everyone hug and share a secret.
	Good work, Matt Lee.
	Of course, that stuff I don't think is ever reported because Associated Press won't let him write about just how stupid and idiotic and how, yeah, for 15 years we've been printing in all press, Russia is coming closer, where, of course, he's right.
	Revisionist Russia.
	Fabulous.
	That was a good one.
	I'm looking him up on the Wikipedia now.
	He's really...
	He hasn't done much.
	He's always...
	Well, he shouldn't be allowed to do this.
	Seems to me.
	He doesn't even seem to have a wiki page.
	Yeah, I think he does.
	I think you have to do Matthew Lee.
	No, not Matthew Lee.
	Oh, Rear Admiral Kirby?
	Yeah.
	Oh, come on.
	It's Rear Admiral John Kirby.
	Oh, I know.
	You have to play the jingle, otherwise...
	Huh.
	You're right.
	I don't think he has.
	Vicki Pitch for the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs.
	Is that him?
	That's Douglas Wilson.
	I guess he mentions him in there.
	Both Little and Kirby serve as spokesman for the Secretary of Defense.
	Okay, so Kirby works for the guy who is the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs, the stooge.
	John Kirby grew up in St.
	Petersburg, Florida.
	He graduated from the University of South Florida in 1985 with a B.A. in History.
	I barely got an education with my bachelor's degree in history.
	What an idiot.
	And he worked part-time in the sports department sniffing jockstraps.
	He was commissioned in September 86 after completing other officer candidate school.
	But see, he has served aboard the guided missile frigate, the Aubrey Fitch, as an electrical officer.
	Hey, Kirby, plug that in.
	Yes, sir.
	Assistant navigator.
	Hey, Kirby, hold the compass.
	And communications officer.
	Grab my coffee.
	He's also served as public affairs officer aboard the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal.
	He's a PR guy.
	Yeah.
	Well, he's a crappy one.
	For some reason, he's Captain John Kirby here, but I don't know.
	I thought he was a rear admiral.
	Well, he comes in as admiral on this, too.
	I think they promoted him.
	Well, the DOD website and his bio is one star, I would think.
	It looks like he has one star on it.
	And he has a goofy smile.
	He doesn't know how to do it.
	He shouldn't be in this job.
	Rookie.
	Big time rookie dude.
	He went to South Florida.
	He didn't do his homework.
	He should have done his homework on that crew that's always harassing Psaki and Harf.
	Especially Matt.
	Rookie.
	And the way you deal with Matt?
	Don't call on him.
	Just don't call on him.
	Although I think you have to, the way they have some protocol in there.
	Because he's always getting called on first.
	He's in the pole position, I think.
	He's the senior guy.
	Oh, sticking with Russia, which might be interesting, just another...
	Now, this is something I took to the Global Intelligence Network.
	Another article that came via the Netherlands, actually, in the EU. And here is a DW.DE story.
	Look for this one to get lags depending on the Ebola, etc.
	But more money for Ukrainian bull crap.
	Funding woes delay new Chernobyl cover.
	And this is a very interesting story.
	The casing around the ruined nuclear reactor at Chernobyl is crumbling, causing a renewed radioactive contamination risk.
	Which is horrible because I'm still dying from Fukushima.
	This will do me in for sure.
	A new cover for the site is under construction, which they're calling a sarcophagus.
	But the project is running out of funding.
	The German Ministry of Environment's senior civil servant has been talking about the new safe confinement, a new protective cover that is to be built over the stricken reactor.
	100 meters high, 165 meters long, built at a safe distance from the still radioactive ruin.
	Now, of course, this is a big project.
	In fact, the shortfall is estimated here at 600 million euros by the end of this year.
	So we have to hurry because if we don't contain this, well, obviously, Europe will die.
	So they need to put a dome over the Chernobyl reactor, which most people probably may not remember is in Ukraine.
	Always a great reason to get more money and contractors in Ukraine.
	So I take this very story to hot rod Sir Rod Adams, who is an expert in atomic and nuclear energy.
	And I said, what do you think, Sir Rod?
	I would appreciate your thoughts on this article.
	And he said, even if the existing sarcophagus collapses, there is no driving force to disperse the remaining radioactive material.
	This is a make-work project that will have no impact on public safety.
	It would be a very localized, no trespassing zone at best.
	However, it will be sold to the...
	And you can just wait for it now.
	Iodine is going to...
	We should get in now, John.
	We should get in now.
	We should do the no agenda iodine.
	It's real!
	Chernobyl is real!
	Get your iodine!
	And this will add to the Fukushima woes.
	And I'm predicting you can wait for this.
	It may not come until after the elections.
	But it will be great fear porn for Europe, and of course, the EU will come up with 600 million euros, and that will go into somebody's pocket who is laughing all the way to the bank for this bullcrap, unnecessary dome.
	Dome.
	And it also pushes back anyone who tries to push nuclear power in any way, shape, or form.
	I was listening to, I had a clip, and it's so long and boring I decided not to clip it, of Robert Kennedy Jr., the one with the strange voice.
	Oh, yes, yes, yes.
	Going on and on about how we should, I'll get the clip for maybe the future show.
	I think I have the clip.
	Yeah, have it here.
	It was worth it.
	It was worth it.
	Sounds a lot like him.
	He went on and on about how after 9-11 we should have thrown up our arms in the air and said, this is all because of our dependence on oil and we should stop now.
	And that would have solved the problem.
	And he goes on and on about how we have to get off of oil and the same old nonsense because we're an oil economy, but okay, we'll just, you know, this is like food and water for the culture, but okay, we'll get off of it.
	But to do what?
	The same people will never accept nuclear backyard nukes.
	He says everybody should be their own little power station to get the cells on the roof and a wind turbine and do all this sort of thing.
	Backyard nuke would...
	Power the whole neighborhood, and they don't give off any...
	There's no waste.
	Breeder reactors.
	Little bitty things.
	But no, no, I can't have that.
	There's also no profit.
	This is the big problem.
	No big profits for ongoing resources that need to be put into the power plant.
	That's why it won't happen.
	And people are just scared into believing that this is...
	I think you and I are both on the same page.
	We are true environmentalists.
	We think nuclear energy is the safest way to go.
	Nuclear energy...
	There's no pollution of any sort anymore.
	I mean, yeah, if you're going to go back and look at the technologies, that's the problem.
	They look at the technologies in the early 50s.
	Oh, it's terrible!
	Yeah, probably back then it was pretty slipshod.
	Good word.
	Does slipshod come before you run roughshod?
	Slipshod.
	Nuclear energy is the Ebola of energy.
	It's really true.
	Talking about Ebola, I did get a note from Paula, who's a nurse, or I guess working in one of the hospitals.
	We got a lot of emails from medical professionals.
	We have a lot.
	Yeah, we do.
	I was just listening to show 660.
	I work in a hospital and handle patient blood and bone marrow samples all day.
	The hospital I work at is about 15 years old and has a tube system.
	The tubes!
	Mr.
	Dvorak was correct when he said they like they have at the bank.
	It's exactly like that, except these are designed to carry patient samples.
	This is to expedite the samples getting from the patient to the laboratory.
	If they had to hand deliver everything, it would take forever with couriers clogging up elevators and hallways full of Ebola patients.
	This is total bullcrap that they are claiming the tube system is contaminated.
	All patient samples are handled as if they are filled with infectious agents, and most of the time we don't even know if the sample is positive for some disease, as it would be handled in the same way if it was.
	I will point out to you the book of knowledge, the case you're interested in, has universal precautions.
	Samples are drawn in vacuum containers, which are nearly indestructible themselves, double bagged and then put in sealed shuttles before they are sent up the tube.
	There is no reason to think that any disease would get out of this and start crawling around the tube system, a la aliens.
	And I appreciate you two bringing this up.
	This show is my bi-weekly vaccination against the Smith-Munt free media.
	It's not Paula.
	Paul from Puget Sound.
	Hi, Paul.
	Sorry.
	And this was in, I'm just thinking, the clip that we had, who was it that said that this was clearly a tube that had gotten contaminated?
	Yeah.
	It was part of the nurse's scam.
	I just don't remember.
	I can't see it.
	It's not obvious right here on my clip list.
	Not to mention the nurse's scam.
	I actually have a clip.
	Oh, good.
	This is on the Tom Hartman show with a union nurse, and they're casually talking about...
	The nurses in Texas and all around the country that don't know what, you know, they apparently don't know what they're doing.
	I have some criticism of this.
	I'll make my complaint known after this clip.
	Really wanted to kind of do everything on the cheap.
	They kept telling the nurses they were ready.
	They told the public they were ready to deal with an Ebola patient.
	And we see the results.
	They were not ready.
	And that's kind of what's going along nationally when we talked to nurses and did our survey, was that now it's 76% of the nurses say that their employer still has not We've educated them about Ebola, about what to do, how to use the clothing, how to use the equipment, and no ability to train or do any drills.
	It's absolutely amazing.
	Deborah Berger, thank you so much for coming on tonight, and thanks so much for the great work that your union is doing.
	Absolutely amazing.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you.
	Amazing.
	Well, it seems to me if you're a professional of any sort, nurse, doctor, that at some point you'd educate yourself on a lot of these things, wouldn't you?
	Or you just passively sit there waiting for your boss to tell you about how this Ebola thing works.
	You don't look it up.
	You don't read any of the journals.
	I would say it is, if anything, it is a huge insult to the nursing profession, who, of course, really are the people who keep people alive in between the doctor visits.
	It's very important.
	Apparently they need all sorts of training.
	They're dumb.
	They're stupid.
	That is very rude.
	I agree.
	I thought it was insulting.
	Well, the New York Times, and this was interesting to me, a Sunday review news analysis written by Alan Foyer.
	I have no idea who he is.
	And, of course, we needed to debunk the Ebola conspiracy theories.
	And I have heard this one as well as the Daily Observer wrote an article, and this is what I'm reading now from the New York Times article, alleging the virus was not what it seemed, a medical disaster, but rather a bioweapon designed by the United States military to depopulate the planet.
	Not long after, accusations appeared online contending the Federal Center for Disease Control and Prevention had patented the virus.
	Well, it is patented by the U.S. government.
	Yes.
	And was poised to make a fortune from a new vaccine it had created with the pharmaceutical industry.
	So now the article has already moved away from the Observer, and now it's just pointing to, you know, conspiracy websites.
	There were even reports, the New World Order, that classic conspiracy bugbear involving global elites had engineered Ebola in order to impose quarantines, travel bans, and eventually martial law.
	This is the New York Times version of calling Republicans' conspiracy nutjobs.
	With the travel ban slipped in there.
	And while most of these theories have so far lingered on the fringes of the internet, a few stubborn cases have crept into the mainstream.
	In the last few weeks, conservative figures like Rush Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham have floated the idea that President Obama had sent aid to Africa, risking American lives because of his guilt over slavery and colonialism.
	Ha ha ha!
	This makes Rush Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham look like idiots.
	Yeah, and they're also going, what?
	And then put it right next to, days ago, hip-hop artist Chris Brown took to Twitter, announcing to his 13 million followers, I don't know, but I think this Ebola epidemic is a form of population control.
	So these are all the operatives, and I will put Rush Limbaugh in the operative camp who will do whatever he is really, where he makes the most money from, is what I believe.
	And I think the guy is not an honest guy.
	And, you know, it's discrediting any other version of what is going on with Ebola.
	Any other version.
	You're a moron, you're a conspiracy theorist, and you have no reason to even discuss this.
	Oh, perfect.
	This guy, this writer, Foyer, he is a generalist.
	I was hoping to find out, looking at all his articles, looking to see if there's some sort of link between one and another that would indicate he's working for the agency or something like that, but no.
	The story that I have seen from Ghanese newspapers, Ebola is not real.
	The only people who have gotten sick are those who have received vaccination shots from the Red Cross.
	Oh, there's this picture I was talking about.
	That's one I haven't heard.
	The Chai Ball Kidnap is a northern political propaganda.
	No girls are missing.
	These are all the signs I was talking about.
	These guys listen to our show.
	What are you talking about here?
	Where are you getting this?
	It's a link in the show notes.
	What is this?
	Who wrote this?
	Who was the original author?
	I'm just trying to find the original author.
	I've seen the story circulate, so it's kind of a viral thing.
	Joke, joke.
	Uh-oh.
	Uh-oh, there it is.
	Oh, my goodness.
	I don't know if I'm going to be able to make it to the show.
	As we move into our thank you segment, I have a little thing I wanted to read from the...
	Oh, I lip smacked.
	From the...
	You'll recognize these guys.
	The Neiman Lab?
	Neiman Lab?
	The Neiman Foundation?
	Neiman Lab, aren't they like about...
	Isn't it an art outfit that analyzes journalism?
	Yeah, maybe.
	We've talked about these guys before.
	Let me take a look at it.
	Neiman Lab.
	I think it's from the Neiman Foundation.
	Yes, I don't know what that is, but the Neiman Foundation.
	And the only reason I bring this up is Joshua Benton.
	Yeah, the Neiman Journalism Lab, pushing to the future of journalism.
	Good luck.
	And I was surprised, and I really liked...
	The article, I was surprised by the amount of examples that were listed in here that I did not know about.
	By the way, before you do that, I just want to say from their website, the top of the Neiman Lab webpage, this is where the future of journalism must lay.
	BuzzFeed now has editorial and product people in place for its forthcoming news app.
	In big, bold type.
	Well, the article that caught my eye is related.
	Like it or not, native advertising is squarely inside the big news tent.
	Oh yeah.
	And the first, it opens up with, there is no need for advertisements to look like advertisements.
	If you make them look like editorial pages, you will attract about 50% more readers.
	Indeed.
	You might think that the public would resent this trick, but there's no evidence to suggest they do.
	Just because they don't know!
	David Ogilvie is the person who said that in Confessions of an Advertising Man in 1963.
	So we all know about what is happening now.
	We have the native advertising is now deeply integrated and ingrained in mainstream news reporting.
	I just wanted to read a couple of the examples.
	I was...
	I was delighted, really, because this is the end.
	End of news journalism.
	In January, New York Times ran its first piece, what's come to be called Native Advertising.
	It had New York Times blaze across the top of the page.
	It had a lot of visual DNA of the Times article, a headline about millennials in the workplace, about 700 words of copy, and even the horrific, honorific Mr.
	and Mrs.
	of Times style.
	But above that headline, a 12-point type, there are the words paid for and posted by Dell.
	The byline went to a freelance writer.
	Notice, by the way, paid for and posted by Dell.
	The byline went to a freelance writer.
	I want to stop you there because I want to remind people that there are now systems in place.
	That we've discussed in great detail in this show that you sign on to these systems and there are editorial holes.
	It's a content management system.
	It's a content management system and you shove your content into this editorial hole and it gets posted automatically into the New York Times.
	Whereas here, I shove my editorial content into your hole.
	Uncalled for.
	I know.
	It's the Tourette's.
	But above the headline in 12-point type were the words paid for and posted by Dell.
	The byline went to a freelance writer with a Dell logo next to her name.
	The typography looked different from what you'd see on a Gail Collins column.
	At the bottom, this page was produced by the advertising department of the New York Times in collaboration with Dell.
	The news and editorial staff for the New York Times had no role in its preparation.
	Then, March, Wall Street Journal published its first native ads.
	Under the rubric of narratives, USA Today joined in May, the same month the non-profit Texas Tribune debuted paid placement for op-eds.
	The Washington Post ran its first native ads last year.
	Even the unabashedly liberal Guardian is in this game, running pieces praising Ben& Jerry's earth-friendly treatment of its ice cream waste products.
	They look a lot like standard stories, but look a little closer.
	You'll see the byline is the Anglo-Dutch multinational Unilever, Ben& Jerry's corporate parent and the Guardian's substantial living partner.
	This is...
	We were on this very early...
	Talking about how this was going to take place.
	And it's almost...
	It's along the lines of Nancy Snyderman, the NBC chief medical correspondent, who doesn't stay in her quarantine for Ebola because she knows it's all crap.
	And she had her black SUV parked outside a restaurant with the engine running while she was inside grabbing a bite to eat.
	You know, blatantly...
	Disregarding anything that she had, you know, the fear porn that she had instilled herself, the news products have no credibility.
	Zero credibility.
	It will all become one big commercial.
	And already, I would say, most news products, 30% is, no, 40% is already advertising.
	Another 20% is advertising other entertainment products from the parent companies.
	So what do we have now?
	60%?
	Maybe 10% or 15% will ultimately be any kind of news and it won't be much more than sports.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	And everybody has just missed the whole idea that you don't need a network.
	Matt Diplo AP Really, if he went value for value, of course he would never get back into the State Department press briefings.
	That's a problem.
	Right.
	You have to be part of the system.
	But if he could be in there as an independent, he would be unbelievable.
	So we have to be his independent arm for right now.
	We have to help him propagate his message.
	But the only way to do it fairly is to support people who try to bring you uncorrupted information.
	And we're not reporting on news.
	We're analyzing whatever we can.
	And I think we're pointing out the discrepancies, the lies, the cheating, the under-reported stuff like the Obama signing of that executive order.
	Nobody's reporting this.
	And so we are reporting the news in a way that the media is not doing, which is reading the executive order.
	This is reporting.
	Reading the executive order and then telling the public what it says.
	So that's actually the original reporting since nobody else has done that.
	So we do original reporting.
	True.
	And more egregious is the pundits and experts are all in on the game.
	Everyone who gets called in, whether they're talking to them for a print article or for a hit, as they call it on television, are all compromised.
	Jake Harney, who was at the White House three months before he showed up as a special correspondent for CNN, is outrageous!
	And every military expert...
	Jake Tapper and all the CIA shills?
	I'm trying to think.
	There was a quote here somewhere.
	Bob Baer?
	Oh, from the CIA? Yeah.
	There was a quote here somewhere.
	I don't know if it was here, or maybe it was a comment on this.
	And someone said, well, you know, this is crazy.
	It would never happen that someone who...
	I have to look up the quote.
	Someone who was protecting the country would now be an analyst to talk about protecting the country.
	This happens all the time.
	That's all that it is.
	No one is uncompromised in the process anymore.
	And they're getting paid for their appearances.
	It's not free.
	These guys and gals are all getting...
	It's a good gig.
	It's a great gig, but there is zero, zero credibility left for a news gathering.
	And this is a long-winded way of saying, if you don't support us, then, well, you'll be buying lots of Ben& Jerry's.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on no agenda.
	In the morning.
	It was worth it.
	It was worth it.
	James Cates thinks so.
	He came in with $169.69 from Virginia Beach, Virginia, and it's a semi-drunk donation.
	It's a double swazzle nuff, I guess.
	I don't see how that is really a double swazzle nuff, but always $69.69, okay, maybe.
	Times two?
	No, I mean, you got 69.69 with a one.
	Well, he's drunk.
	Adam Morey, Middletown, Maryland, 12345, the lone 12345, and he's drunk, he says.
	This is good.
	Just a random number thing happening.
	Again, you have two drunks in a row.
	Hey, Rita's drunk.
	Rita's drunky.
	He says, love this show.
	I drive 74 miles to work each day, and after listening for several months, I feel like we're old friends.
	Please tell Adam to pay me two shots to the head, don't eat me, Hillary.
	And it's blank.
	I'm sorry, I was too drunk to play the other one for you.
	Sir Nick Principe, Knight of the Numbers in Raleigh, North Carolina, $103.06.
	He emptied out his PayPal.
	He emptied out his PayPal account, and we recommend people do that.
	There's money sitting in there, you're not getting interest, you might as well, you know, PayPal's getting interest, I can assure you.
	Michael Aspenhog, I'm guessing, from...
	I don't know how to pronounce this.
	Fugesta.
	Fugesta, Sweden.
	$90.
	Fugesta.
	It's not the Swedish chef.
	Mike Albert is Seattle, Washington.
	That's how they talk.
	Fugesta.
	This is our...
	We tried to solicit people for the 777 donations for this.
	Isn't this coming?
	Don't we have a...
	We got two.
	Wait, with the 26th of October, which is a Sunday, I believe, is it not?
	I don't know, something.
	This is our 7th anniversary.
	Now, there may be a 7-year itch.
	I have to say I'm a little worried about a 7-year.
	Maybe we'll just really not like each other.
	Well, I don't know.
	This is probably true.
	Anyway, you guys provide an excellent service, and so you gave it 7777, and then Sir Atomic Rod Adam.
	Hot Rod!
	Hot Rod, 7777 from Forest, Virginia.
	And you should look at AtomicInsights.com.
	Not just you.
	Everyone should read that.
	And he has a podcast as well.
	He has a lot of real experts on.
	Yeah.
	And it's very parsable, very understandable.
	And you're hearing people who, you know, he was in a nuclear sub.
	I think he, did he drive it?
	He drove it.
	He drove the sub.
	Hey, I'm taking a left turn.
	Where's my signals not working?
	My light's out.
	Oh, watch me pop the clutch on this baby.
	Thank you, Sir Rod.
	Sir Arthur Giblets in...
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Sir Arthur Gobetz in Zandam, Holland, 7539.
	You got a funny note.
	Sir Rick in Arlington.
	He says, Dear fellow Ebola victims, if I would not be listening to your show, I do believe this would be my last donation.
	It would be death by Ebola, ISIS, Corazon, or global warming.
	That's right.
	He has a birthday call-out.
	We'll get that.
	And we have a birthday call-out for him.
	Sir Rick in Arlington, Washington, 69-33.
	Daniel Price in Mount Gambier, South Australia.
	Also, we got a shout-out there.
	Another birthday.
	Piggy Stew.
	Layland, Lancaster, UK, 6660.
	Surgery on the 23rd.
	Some good luck karma.
	Surgery karma.
	We'll hit that for you at the end, of course.
	Of course, Piggy.
	Paul Webb in Wickenham, Middlesex, 6260.
	Jack Smith in Norwich, Norfolk.
	UK. I don't know if they pronounce it Norfolk in the UK. I think it's Norfolk.
	Norfolk.
	Ebola.
	We had the Ebola.
	It's disgusting already.
	Cats.
	Donut?
	No, Kurtz.
	Kurtz Donut.
	Kurtz Donut?
	Really?
	Kurtz Donut.
	It says donut.
	Well, it's not D-O-U-G-H-N-U. He's credited as Kurtz Donut.
	Okay.
	Loving the increase in bullhorn activity.
	Kurtz Donut cleanup in aisle 5.
	Keene, New Hampshire.
	5150.
	We actually didn't get that many donations except for the big ones at the top.
	I'm kind of lucky.
	Sir Inside Jobs in Seattle, Washington.
	5033.
	And the rest of these are $50.
	From Martin Van Gelen Lost.
	From Halen Lost in Bnei Leeuwen.
	Dave Evans in Austin around the street from you.
	Hey Dave, thanks man.
	Andrew Haverson in Gravenhurst, Ontario.
	I think Dave travels a lot to Europe, so he's probably tuning in to see if he's going to die.
	Die from Ebola.
	Yeah.
	I did Andrew Haverson, Michael Gates in Colorado Springs, Colorado.
	Paul Rodas in Fairview Park, South Australia.
	With his daughter.
	Furnace in Turnbridge Wells, Kent.
	Got a lot of Brits today.
	John McGinnis.
	Twice.
	Dinkley Village, Victoria, and he's also in Ringwood Itch and gave us two $50 donations.
	Ringwood Itch.
	I was thinking of Ringworm.
	It says Ringwood East, but I like it.
	It's like Brahma.
	President Brahma.
	Also in Australia.
	Mark Raleigh in Germantown, Maryland.
	Eric Mann in Spring Hill, Florida.
	Sokovi, Alexander Sokovi in Moscow.
	Yes, always in.
	John Strague in San Antonio down the street from you.
	Patrick Matcom.
	Sir Patrick, if I'm not mistaken, Long Island City, New York.
	DJ Day Day finishes it off.
	And I do have a handwritten note, which I will attempt to read.
	From DJ Day Day.
	Parts Unknown.
	It's been two months since my last donation.
	I got the chance four weeks ago, but had not gotten to the post office to mail it.
	My wife and I came in as a mail money grant.
	Aww.
	And we had a few scenes and trips to the hospital.
	So far, everything is gold.
	Please send us some karma and good vibes so everything comes out okay.
	The show is great and kept on getting better every day.
	You and Adam are great people.
	Thank you, DJ Day Day.
	Thank you.
	Very nice.
	Very nice.
	And so let's give the groups of people some karma that they can use for whatever purpose.
	We are here, hashtag America, near our hashtag target.
	Soon.
	It was worth it.
	it was worth it you've got karma you've got karma Alrighty.
	Wrap it up for me, Johnny boy.
	I want to remind people that we have another show coming up next Thursday.
	Hope to pick up the slack a little bit for the lesser donations.
	Go to Dvorak.org slash NA. ChannelDvorak.com slash NA. You can also go to the No Agenda Show and No Agenda Nation websites, and there's places you can click to get to a donation page.
	We really would like some help for Thursday as we approach our seventh anniversary.
	On October 26th, send us a sack of sevens.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. It's my birthday party!
	Max Windham says happy birthday to his smoking hot wife who will be celebrating the 21st.
	Mike Yule celebrating a Monday.
	Sir Arthur Gobetz says happy birthday to his daddy-o.
	He'll be 75 or turn 75 yesterday.
	On the 17th, actually.
	Danielle Price, happy birthday to her SMEXI partner.
	Andrew in Mount Gambier, South Australia, 33 on the 21st.
	Magic numbers.
	And Phil Rodas to his daughter, Maya, who turns 8 years old.
	Happy birthday from all your friends here at the Best Podcast in the Universe.
	It's your birthday, yeah.
	Just once in a while, just to remind everybody what great music is all about.
	Let's hit that one.
	Three nightings today.
	We have Roberto Suarez Actually, I think he sent in a note that we did not read.
	Did that not come through?
	Did we read his whole note?
	No, we didn't read it.
	The Suarez note?
	I have a feeling we didn't read the Suarez note.
	Well, let's go dig it up and read it.
	I think I have it here somewhere.
	S-U-A-R-Z... Yeah.
	No, it's just very easy, right?
	Suarez.
	Suarez.
	I thought that was...
	I got a light from Andy Suarez?
	No, Roberto.
	Site link's not working.
	Roberto Suarez.
	Well, he sent the jingle in that he already mentioned that.
	Well, he sent a number of...
	Well, you know what's good?
	He's a knight.
	Oh, I think he...
	Is he the one that was on an 11-11 program and finally made it?
	I vaguely remember reading something about this.
	I think that was Roberto, wasn't it?
	Probably.
	It could have been.
	Well, if he wants us to read something...
	I thought I'd save this to talk about it on the show, and now I feel kind of stupid because my sister has fallen apart on me.
	Anyway, we have Terry Stelly.
	Black Knight.
	Black Knight.
	Oh, I have to say, sir, Black Knight.
	I'm going to put that in.
	Black Knight.
	And we have Christina Gillo, who will be Dame Bang Bang.
	So let us grab the long blade, since we have two knights and a dame today.
	Beautiful.
	Step up, Roberto Suarez, Terry Stelly, and Christina Guillo.
	All three of you have contributed to the best podcast in the universe.
	We might have $1,000 or more, and we are very happy to induct you into the table of the round of the Knights and Dames.
	And we say to you, uh, hello, Sir Roberto the Freakin' Reakin'.
	Hello, Sir Terry the Black Knight, Chief Bastard of Mobile Bay.
	And hello, Dame Bang Bang.
	For you, we've got, uh, Hookers and Molly, Root Beer and Legos, Ass Cream with Bear Fillets, Mushrooms and Maker's Mark, Cuban Cigars with Single Munch, What?
	Opium and warm orange juice.
	Sparkling cider.
	I forgot the Rent Boys and Chardonnay.
	I thought maybe...
	No, she wanted hookers and molly is what...
	Yeah, hookers and molly.
	Dame Bang Bang wanted.
	And of course...
	But you had root beer and molly.
	Is that what you said?
	I said hookers and molly.
	I think we should try root beer and molly.
	That sounds like a good idea.
	Have you ever tried molly?
	No, it's not good for you.
	It's one of those serotonin blockers that makes you very slowly lose your ability to have any emotions whatsoever.
	It's very dangerous.
	It's like taking Xanax a lot.
	These things are all bad.
	What's in it?
	What is molly?
	I don't know.
	It makes your skin very sensitive.
	I saw two people died at the Amsterdam dance event over the weekend due to bad MDMA pills.
	You should not be buying your MDMA. It's ecstasy.
	No, I know.
	I'm just relating it to party drugs.
	Oh, so they drop dead?
	Yeah, pretty much.
	One died outside, and one died in the hospital.
	Do not buy your MDMA pills on-site, people.
	Just don't buy them at all.
	It's not a good idea at all.
	Something I have not tried, and I don't really intend to do this.
	But Molly, this is...
	I have to look that up.
	I'm a Haldol girl myself.
	All right.
	Go to noagendernation.com slash rings and pick up your well-deserved ringage.
	Thank you so much for supporting us.
	And as John said, we look forward to Thursday's show to bring you more media deconstruction in our value-for-value proposition.
	Yes.
	And so let's play a commercial from the past five years ago.
	Pop the pig.
	Okay.
	Who's going to pop the pig?
	Feed him a burger.
	Yo, keep feeding him.
	The more he eats, the bigger he gets.
	And it's time to get bigger, bigger and bigger.
	Pop the Pig is belly-busting fun by Goliath.
	And the significance of this...
	I don't know.
	I saw this old clip and said, why did I clip this?
	I don't remember this being played originally on the show.
	Probably was never played.
	Now it's the first time from five years ago.
	John, you're the one kind of keeping track of the Hillary 2016 campaign.
	How's that going?
	Who have we...
	Who are we looking at here?
	Well, I'm sticking with my more recent thesis, which is that she doesn't want to run, but she wants to get the money so she can take the money and run, as it were.
	So it's not running, but running with the money.
	Yeah, right.
	And this seems to be shaping up, it seems to be working out fine.
	When's the last time?
	She's not getting the kind of press that she would like if she was actually running.
	She's going to have to announce after the midterms.
	Right.
	Which I also think are going to be disappointing for the Republicans.
	Yes.
	Yeah, you have mentioned this.
	And I think that she's working on some ways to...
	She's got a submarine in her own campaign.
	I think she's getting old and tired.
	I think she just doesn't want to do it.
	I think no matter who is trying to get into the race, I think everyone is trying to discredit other guys.
	And, you know, the number one guy to knock out of the race, although it is kind of funny to have him around, is Vice President Joe Biden.
	And I feel sorry for the guy because they really pulled a fast one on him this time.
	But that's how it goes, Joe.
	44-year-old Hunter Biden, Vice President Joe Biden's youngest son, was discharged from the Navy Reserve after testing positive for cocaine.
	This is the guy who runs the financial company in Ukraine.
	He's part of that whole outfit.
	Yeah, and coked up.
	I mean, this is the cheapest way and the worst way to discredit somebody.
	What?
	You can't even manage your own kid.
	You can manage the country.
	It's a long piece, too.
	You want to hear it?
	A little bit.
	And assigned a coveted position as a public affairs officer in Norfolk, Virginia.
	But U.S. officials confirm the very next month, after reporting to his unit, Biden was given a routine drug test, which he failed.
	Biden's brief military career ended with this statement.
	It was the honor of my life to serve in the U.S. Navy, and I deeply regret and am embarrassed that my actions led to my administrative discharge.
	Hunter Biden comes from a proud military family.
	Proud military family who can't keep their kids in line.
	His older brother, Beau, is a major in the Delaware Army National Guard.
	Watch him.
	He'll be on crack.
	Before you know it.
	And served a year in Iraq.
	Military service has been a big part of the Biden family's public platform.
	Now watch him take it to Joe and really screw him.
	I'm looking forward to standing with our son Hunter when he is commissioned as an ensign in the United States Navy.
	He follows in the footsteps of two of his grandfathers who have also served in the Navy.
	A source familiar with...
	Hey, I'm old Grandpa Joe Biden.
	I'm on the weed.
	Biden's case confirms Biden received two waivers to join a special Navy Reserve program.
	They even got him in on a special waiver.
	This is horrible.
	Oh, the kid must have been a wreck.
	He must have been pretty funny and energetic and productive.
	But Biden was 43 when he applied.
	The source says his strong academic record pushed him through.
	The vice president joked about his son's timing unknowingly just a month before Hunter was discharged.
	This is where they really stick it to him.
	This is such a low blow.
	We have a lot of bad judgment in my family, Mark.
	Poor guy.
	So unfair.
	This is really nasty.
	Timing unknowingly just a month before Hunter was discharged.
	We have a lot of bad judgment in my family.
	My son, who's over 40, just joined the United States Navy.
	He's about to be sworn in as an officer.
	Tony Biden.
	He sounds drunk himself right there, doesn't he?
	About to become an officer.
	It was worth it.
	Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine.
	Poor Joe.
	That's mean.
	He's out.
	The one that they're bringing up, they're trying to groom, because I think a lot of people don't like the concept of Elizabeth Warren getting the billing because they have to have a woman next.
	And so there's a huge attempt to get Andrew Cuomo Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	And he's, what is he, Republican, Democrat?
	What is he?
	No, he's a Democrat.
	There's a long line of Democrats from, you know, Governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo.
	And he is showing up all over the place, and he was recently on the Charlie Rose show, or he was on the, and maybe it was the Today show, and he was just being interviewed, and the Rose is all over him.
	Oh, you're great.
	Because this is somebody, whoever handles Rose, is bringing this guy in.
	And it's also, there's a make-good involved, because his dad...
	The other Cuomo.
	Do we have a clip of the show?
	Mario Cuomo.
	Do you have a clip?
	No.
	Mario, no.
	I'm just giving you the rundown.
	I don't have a long, boring clip.
	Mario Cuomo was going to be run for president.
	He was kind of designated president.
	That's when Bill Clinton slipped in and beat George H.W. Bush because Cuomo begged out of that race thinking, what standing president that's gotten us into a war The first Kuwait war with Iraq.
	How could he get voted out?
	I'll run after he's done.
	And Clinton wisely ran and then basically took Mario Cuomo completely out of the political picture, and I think they owe the family a favor.
	Interesting.
	Well, that could work.
	But no, actually it couldn't work.
	It has to be a woman.
	There's no qualms about it.
	It has to be a woman.
	That's what we need.
	Now tell me, was there not a time, I believe in history, now I barely got a degree from the University of South Florida, so I really don't know.
	But was there not a time in maybe Cleopatra's age when women ran the show?
	Here's how I understand the history of it, and I need to do some research.
	Where women ran the show, they were in charge of everything, and the only thing men did was protect them, carry heavy stuff, but men were allowed to service any woman that they wanted or any woman that wanted servicing.
	And the men were just kind of kept dumb and ate around and screwed around.
	And we liked it.
	This is your fantasy.
	Yes, I think this would be a very good way to do it.
	Yes, that would be something you'd think would be a very good way to do it.
	They're kind of doing that now because the real president is Valerie Jarrett.
	Yeah.
	And I think there's some of that going on.
	So this is not true?
	This never happened in the times of Cleopatra?
	No, no.
	I'm going to look this up.
	I have a feeling...
	Yeah, I think you should read a little history.
	Well, I got a good book for you.
	Read Gibbons, Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire.
	That's what I would read and do it, you know, before the next show.
	A couple volumes.
	Will there be a test?
	Will there be a test?
	Yeah, there'll be a test, definitely.
	Definitely, definitely.
	Anyway, I think you're right, but Elizabeth Warren's going to have her work cut out for her if the Democrat Party decides that they're going to push Andrew Cuomo.
	Yeah.
	And I think what it is, I think there's fear that Elizabeth Warren could be beaten by a Republican.
	I don't think so, personally.
	I don't see any Republican beating Elizabeth Warren.
	I think there's more likelihood that a Republican could beat Andrew Cuomo.
	But Cuomo's a good-looking guy, big smile, seems sharp.
	You know, he's a good candidate.
	It has to be a woman, John.
	It has to be a woman.
	Elizabeth Warren looks like everybody's grandmom.
	There's issues with her.
	And Hillary.
	I think Hillary hurt herself with that fall.
	She just seems dumb.
	She's not her sharp old self.
	I have two parting clips from the snow job department.
	I think I'll play our Gitmo Nation East clip first.
	This is a snippet of reporting from the BBC on a recent conversation in, I believe, Parliament.
	The Home Secretary, Theresa May, that is pretty much the Department of Homeland Security Secretary.
	She's in charge of the Home.
	As far as the Department of State.
	State, I'm sorry.
	But not really the foreign affairs.
	She doesn't do foreign affairs.
	Well, that would be the...
	Foreign affairs.
	That would be the...
	No, the home secretary is like Department of State, and then there's another...
	Why don't we look it up for a second?
	Let me see.
	Home secretary is similar.
	It's important to know.
	We've been struggling.
	Home secretary used to be...
	Was that the ball guy?
	Q Ball was that guy for...
	What was he?
	What was his name again?
	To protect our freedoms, protect our freedoms, that guy?
	Yeah, that guy.
	Home secretary.
	Who?
	Well, it was this guy.
	If we slow him down about 5%.
	I need his name, otherwise I can't find the jingle.
	Haig.
	Well, let's see.
	Haig.
	Hague.
	Right.
	Vague Hague.
	I'll play Hague while you look up what the Home Secretary does.
	Intelligence work takes place within a strong legal framework.
	We operate under the rule of law and are accountable for it.
	In some countries, secret intelligence is used to control their people.
	In ours, it only exists to protect their freedoms.
	Protect their freedoms.
	Protect their freedoms.
	Well, the joke to that, of course, is that he was never the home secretary.
	He was a foreign minister for an affair.
	He was the...
	Foreign Secretary.
	Yeah, that's what I thought.
	Or, no, wait.
	Let's see, what was Hague?
	What was his first name?
	William.
	William Hague.
	Okay, let me get that, so we get this straight before we start yacking about it.
	Okay, the Home Secretary is one of the United Kingdom's four great offices of state.
	As minister in charge of the Home Office, the Home Secretary is responsible for the internal affairs of England and Wales...
	And for immigration and citizenship for the whole of the UK. Right, Hague was the Foreign Secretary.
	The remit of the Home Office also includes policing in England and Wales and matters of national security.
	As the Security Service MI5 is directly accountable to the Home Secretary.
	Oh, the Spy Secretary.
	Spy Secretary.
	The current Home Secretary.
	That's a good job.
	It's a great job.
	Yeah, you get to use the resources of MI5. Hey, you know, I got this parking ticket.
	Here is Theresa May in an unbelievable statement and non-analysis by the BBC in this particular piece.
	And we've many times said that Gitmo Nation East of the United Kingdom is so obviously a beta test for the rest of the world.
	I'm sorry to report you are beyond repair when you hear this.
	The Home Secretary has defended the right of the security and intelligence agencies, like GCHQ, to collect information about phone call records, emails, and other Internet activity on a large scale, what's known as bulk data collection.
	Theresa May was giving evidence to Parliament's Intelligence and Security Committee, and she said the ability to collect large amounts of information was hugely important.
	We cannot emphasize enough that the collection of bulk data is not mass surveillance.
	What?
	Let me just emphasize.
	Let me get this straight.
	Wow!
	The collection of bulk data is not mass surveillance.
	What is it then?
	Well?
	Precisely because what happens is this targeted process, which means that this is not about just some sort of mass look at everybody's data.
	Most of the data will not be looked at at all.
	But we'll have it.
	We just won't look at it at all.
	We won't be touched.
	We won't be touched.
	The former Cabinet Minister and Conservative Michael Ankram, now Lord Lothian, put to the Home Secretary concerns raised with the committee.
	Certain witnesses have suggested to us that bulk collection itself is an invasion of privacy.
	And this is what, of course, we know, the metadata by itself.
	And recall, the metadata also includes every website you've been to.
	This is part of what they're collecting.
	Mrs.
	May did not accept that.
	The intelligence agencies needed access to that information.
	I do not accept that!
	I don't think the collection of bulk data...
	Itself, in an abstract form, is necessarily what government should be about.
	What government should be about is saying where do we need to have a haystack in order to be able to access the needle.
	We need to have a haystack in order to access the needle.
	Ho-ho!
	Or, well, anybody.
	It's necessary to keep people safe.
	Keep you safe.
	But Theresa May said that the government did need to think about what information was made public to give people confidence in the way the intelligence agencies were working.
	Citizens of the United Kingdom, resume normal activity, all is well.
	Pay no attention to the Haste Act.
	We don't have it quite that bad.
	You're right.
	I think I've always thought you were right about this thesis.
	Will they do it, see what the public reaction is?
	They go, nobody seems to care.
	Let's try it in the United States, see what happens.
	No, Russell Brand goes out.
	They've kind of done the same.
	They haven't been so blunt.
	I need to say something.
	Russell Brand is a distraction.
	I keep getting emails.
	Oh, he seems to be right on message.
	He's a distraction.
	He's an incoherent distraction.
	He's distracting you from the true issues with his bravery of trying to bust into Fox News to see Sean Hannity.
	Are you kidding me?
	Who gives a crap?
	Distraction.
	I don't believe Russell Brand.
	He did what?
	He tried to walk into Fox, the broadcast building in New York, with a camera.
	I'm here to see Sean Handy.
	Of course he gets kicked out.
	Of course he gets kicked out.
	Anybody would.
	And he knows that.
	That's why he does it.
	To be a distraction.
	So people are looking at his message.
	Of course he has a message that is not...
	Does he got a new movie or something coming out?
	No, no, no.
	I don't think so.
	I'm sure he means well, but he's being used.
	It's like Alex Jones going on Piers Morgan.
	And you'll just use it as the moron who wants guns.
	It doesn't matter.
	The guy I'm keeping a very sharp eye on is James Comey.
	Ah, Comey.
	This is our new director of the FBI. This is a 10-year position.
	Unless you're Robert Gates and then you get to go for 12 years because you know where all the bodies are buried from.
	Yeah, they had to set him up.
	It took that long to erase his hard disk.
	Two extra years.
	And Comey did another speech.
	Let me see.
	Where was he?
	You're beating me up on this.
	This is good.
	I should be following Comey closer, too.
	We've already decided that he's the guy to watch.
	Yeah, let me just see where this was, this particular speech.
	And I found it.
	It's on C-SPAN, but I found it at the Brookings Institution.
	Well, that makes sense, doesn't it?
	This is where policy is set.
	I pulled out the whole relevant piece.
	It's a couple minutes.
	If you get bored, please tell me immediately.
	I doubt you will.
	We may have to stop to discuss here and there.
	It's the last clip I have.
	James Comey, director of the FBI, on encryption.
	The issue is whether companies not subject currently to CALEA should be required to build lawful intercept capabilities.
	Now, we know what CALEA is, right?
	This is the directive that...
	Oh, man.
	Come on, John.
	Help me out here.
	I don't know what it is.
	Yeah, you do.
	CALEA. It's...
	Oh, let's look it up.
	Jeez, we're looking up a lot.
	C-A-L-E-A. It's the communications regulation about...
	Oh, I'm glad I asked.
	C-A-L-E-A. Yeah, CALEA. Yeah, it is.
	Communication Assistance for Law Enforcement Act.
	There you go.
	And you'll recall they tried to change that a couple years ago, and then that didn't happen.
	This was way before Snowden.
	And this is funny because they talk about this thing.
	Let me just read a thing from this wiki.
	The United States wiretapping law passed in 1994 during the presidency of Bill Clinton.
	This Khali, I think, first crapped out, came up.
	Because I remember talking to the—I was doing a show then called either Real Computing or Software Hard Talk on public radio.
	And I had an FBI guy on discussing this, and there was the same pitch— You know, we need this because the pitch the FBI has, and I've said it before, is a pitch for laziness.
	Yeah, so they don't have to do anything.
	They don't have to be in the field.
	You don't have to follow.
	You don't have to do any actual work.
	Yeah, you don't have to put anybody in there or really have to do any work.
	You just listen in on everyone.
	Now, Kalia is 20 years old.
	It was enacted on October 25, 1994.
	And it requires a telecommunications carrier, as defined by the act, to ensure that equipment facilities or services that allow customer or subscriber to originate, terminate, or direct communications enable law enforcement officials to conduct electronic surveillance pursuant to court order or other lawful authorization.
	I think it was Kalia they tried to update to do the SOPA stuff, and that's why it got shouted down.
	I recall there was some sneaky change to the act that got overturned.
	It's been going on forever, this attempt.
	But it's changed a little bit and some of the words he uses are interesting to me.
	The issue is whether companies not subject currently to CALEA should be required to build lawful intercept capabilities for law enforcement.
	Now, to be clear, we are not seeking to expand our authority to intercept communications.
	We are struggling to keep up with changing technology and to maintain our ability to actually collect the communications we are authorized to collect.
	And if the challenges of real-time data interception threaten to leave us in the dark, encryption threatens to lead us all to a very, very dark place.
	A very, very dark place, John!
	Encryption.
	A very dark place because Uber Lord Comey needs to be able to access anything you do.
	Here's what I mean by that.
	Tell me.
	Encryption is nothing new.
	No.
	But the challenge to law enforcement and national security officials is markedly worse with recent default encryption settings.
	And encrypted devices and networks, all in the name of increased security and privacy.
	Yes, this is very good for the citizens of the world to have increased security and privacy away from your prying eyes, you scum.
	For example, with Apple's new operating system...
	Ooh, calling out the Apples!
	Hello, Tim Collins!
	Or Steve Cook, whatever your name is.
	The information stored on many iPhones and other Apple devices will be encrypted by default.
	Okay.
	Pay attention to what he says next, what Apple said.
	Shortly after Apple's announcement, Google announced plans to follow suit with its Android operating system.
	This means that the companies themselves will not be able to unlock phones, laptops, and tablets to reveal photos or documents or email.
	Yeah, because I bought the product.
	It's my product.
	It's my possession.
	I own the product, although that's probably dubious at best, depending on all the warning and licensing crap that you apparently sign when you use it.
	But yeah, I bought the product.
	Apple has no right to screw with my product.
	Oh wait, they can put a U2 CD on it, but okay.
	Yeah.
	What's wrong with you, Comey, that they can't do anything after I've bought a product?
	Oh!
	Restored texts or recordings in those instruments.
	Look, both companies are run by good people who care deeply about public safety and national security.
	I know that.
	But...
	And they're responding to a market demand that they perceive.
	Oh, it's a marketing.
	It's just market demand.
	But the place that this is leading us is one that I suggest we should not go without careful thought and debate as a country.
	Okay.
	At the outset, the good folks at Apple say something that's reasonable.
	Now, the good folks at Apple say something that's reasonable.
	I'm now interested.
	So the director of the FBI is saying that Apple said this to him.
	Which is, look, it's not that big a deal because law enforcement can still...
	Get the data from the cloud, because folks are going to back up their devices to the cloud.
	Now, I have heard this argument, but I've never heard an Apple person say this.
	Have you?
	Have you heard an Apple person say this?
	No, no, I've never heard...
	Actually, I haven't heard too many people that are representing a money-making corporation say anything like that.
	Look, the director of the FBI... What's there to worry about?
	...that's reasonable, which is, look, it's not that big a deal, because law enforcement can still...
	Get the data from the cloud because folks are going to back up their devices to the cloud and the FBI with lawful authority can still access the cloud.
	But here's the problem with that.
	Uploading to the cloud doesn't include all of the stored data on the bad guy's phone.
	I'd like to stop this for a moment.
	I would like the director of FBI to stop his blatant sexism.
	Not all criminals are guys.
	And he continuously talks about bad guys, bad guys, bad guys.
	Why?
	Is it only guys who do this?
	Or are women never bad?
	I take issue with that.
	I think you should.
	First, which has the potential to create a black hole in and of itself.
	A black hole!
	But second, if the bad guys don't back up their phones routinely, or if they opt out...
	Hey, bad guy!
	Have you backed up your iPhone regularly?
	Because, you know, hey, bad guy!
	They should have a whole campaign.
	And by the way, there is a J.C. Buzzkill Jr.
	pointed this out to me.
	I had it clicked.
	If you go into your settings for Android phones, they are backing up the damn phone constantly to the cloud.
	By default.
	By default.
	And you have to go in there and click on that little thing and get it off.
	And every upgrade you do, it's always back on by default.
	All my documents in my iPod Touch.
	everything on the cloud but it doesn't at least everything on your phone yeah it's still in the cloud yeah liars in and of itself but second if the bad guys don't back up their phones routinely or if they opt out of uploading to the cloud The data will only be found on the encrypted devices themselves.
	Oh, no!
	And it's the people most worried about what's on the device who will be most likely to avoid the cloud.
	Because if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about.
	You should just open everything up.
	You don't need encryption if you're not breaking the law.
	Yeah, put cameras in your house while you're at it.
	And to make sure that law enforcement cannot access incriminating data.
	Yeah.
	This is called privacy, and we have constitutional rights for this.
	Encryption just isn't a technical feature.
	It's part of a marketing strategy.
	It's a marketing strategy, John.
	It's just marketing.
	We can do away with marketing.
	It's not about your rights.
	It's about marketing.
	But it will have very serious consequences for law enforcement and national security agencies at all levels.
	Yeah, you'll have to do some work and get off your lazy ass.
	You have to go follow somebody, you know, sleuthing, like the Hardy Boys.
	Sophisticated criminals will come to count on these means of evading detection.
	What are they going to do with these sophisticated criminals?
	What are they doing?
	Are they drug dealers, sophisticated, that you need to access their phone?
	Who are these sophisticated criminals?
	What exactly is the danger?
	Terrorists.
	It's got to be something.
	Ebola.
	It's the equivalent of a closet that can't be opened, a safe deposit box that can't be opened, a safe that can't ever be cracked.
	Yeah.
	And my question to facilitate this conversation is, at what cost?
	No cost.
	Free.
	No, there's a huge cost with the bad guys out there.
	I have to correct some misimpressions that I think are connected to this.
	The first is that folks say, folks say, look, you're still going to have access to metadata.
	Which includes telephone records and location information.
	See how it connects to what Theresa May was saying?
	Here he's talking about we have to have the haystack to find the needle.
	She's also saying a metadata is not enough.
	We need to be able to go in and read it when you're a bad guy.
	Yeah, let's say that I am on this show and this show is a political show about Republicans.
	Anti or pro?
	I don't know.
	We're Republican, pro-Republicans.
	Unlikely to ever happen.
	But secretly, I am a Democrat.
	I can imagine somebody like, I don't know, Bill O'Reilly being like this.
	Or Jon Stewart is probably a Republican, secretly.
	And I am funneling money, you know, quite a bit of it, to the Democrat Party because I want them to get elected, even though I'm doing this Republican show.
	Well...
	Political operatives that happen to be running the show and the government can find this out quite easily by spying on me.
	And that's what their whole thing's about.
	And they also might want to blackmail me over some website I accidentally visited or maybe I purposely visited.
	This is all about blackmail by the government.
	I think it would be a different way.
	Where, look, they know, Curry is, he's off.
	The guy is Tourette's.
	We can't even talk to the guy at all.
	He can't even keep attention for five seconds.
	We've got to change the tone of the show through Dvorak.
	Hey, you remember that girl in L.A. who works for E? Yeah, we have pictures.
	Hey, Dvorak, you may want to help Curry understand things a little better.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Stored with the telecommunications carriers.
	And that is absolutely true.
	It's true!
	But metadata does not provide the content of any communication.
	No!
	It's incomplete information.
	You said, what happened?
	We don't need that.
	What happened?
	We don't look at that.
	We don't need that.
	Now the FBI stooge is in here saying we need to have that.
	This is an outrage.
	An outrage.
	Almost done with Comey here.
	...with the telecommunications carriers.
	And that is absolutely true.
	But metadata does not provide the content of any communication.
	It's incomplete information.
	And even that is difficult to access when time is of the essence.
	I wish we had time in our work.
	Especially when lives are on the line.
	We usually don't.
	There is a misconception that building a lawful intercept solution is all about building a backdoor.
	One that foreign adversaries or hackers could exploit.
	Ah!
	What could we possibly come up with that is less scary than a backdoor?
	If you were the director of the FBI. If I was looking for something less scary than a backdoor?
	Yeah.
	I don't have any idea.
	Backdoors don't seem that scary to me.
	Come on, man.
	This is for the sheeple.
	What would you tell people?
	It would be a...
	I don't know.
	I'm sure he's got better ideas than I do when it comes to this sort of propaganda.
	What is it?
	That also is not true.
	We are not seeking a backdoor approach.
	We want to use the front door with clarity and transparency.
	Oh, transparency.
	Hello, I'm here at the front door of your Ivo and I want to come in.
	I'm very transparent and I have clarity about it all.
	Hello, I'm in the front door.
	Not a back door, front door.
	I'm not your back door, man.
	I'm your front door, man.
	We want clear guidance provided by law.
	We are completely comfortable with court orders and legal process front doors that provide us the evidence and information we need to investigate crime and prevent attacks.
	Number one front door is and always will be Facebook.
	The director of the FBI has an office in Facebook on the campus.
	That is your number one place where your metadata and your conversations are being shared with the government.
	That is the front door.
	Right there.
	Front door.
	No encryption to you.
	Notice, Facebook hasn't come out and said, yes, we're going to encrypt everything.
	Interesting how they haven't done that.
	Why would they?
	Lose all their business.
	And nobody cares.
	All these idiot Facebook users, they don't care.
	I don't hear anybody bitching about it.
	Did you hear about the Zuckerberg emails that came up again, or the IMs?
	No.
	Here it is.
	This happened a while ago, but I think the story resurfaced.
	I'm not sure why.
	Maybe he needs to be put back in his place.
	Business Insider.
	Embarrassing and damaging.
	Zuckerberg IMs confirmed by Zuckerberg.
	The New Yorker quoted two of these quotes from Zuckerberg back in his earlier days, and I will read them to you.
	After all the ads are clicked away.
	Friend.
	So, have you decided what you're going to do about the websites?
	Let me see what this context is.
	Oh, outlining how he was planning to deal with Harvard Connect, which was a competing system to the Facebook back in Harvard.
	Friend.
	So, have you decided what you're going to do about the websites?
	Zuck.
	Yeah, I'm going to fuck them.
	Probably in the year.
	I mean, year.
	In another exchange, Zuck, yeah, so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard, just ask.
	I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses.
	What?
	Says friend.
	How'd you manage that one?
	Zuck, people just submitted it.
	I don't know why.
	They trust me.
	Dumb fucks.
	That is the quote of the year.
	That is Zuckerberg.
	That is the guy who was running Facebook.
	That is the guy who was protecting your data, everybody.
	Trust me.
	Dumb fucks.
	That is your Facebook user.
	That's it.
	In a nutshell.
	Dumb fuck.
	And that concludes our media deconstruction for October 19th, 2014.
	Happy to be here for you.
	Please remember us.
	Visit Dvorak.org slash NA. And use the No Agenda Player, noagendaplayer.com, to be able to create direct links to relevant pieces of the program.
	To hit people in the mouth who are already kind of on board.
	If they're not, don't even bother.
	It won't work.
	It's not worth the effort.
	It really isn't.
	And are you doing any phone shows?
	No, not doing anything today but cooking.
	Clean up a little bit, cook.
	I wish I was there for the cooking.
	Well, it's going to be a barbecued leg of lamb.
	Mmm, yummy.
	Very nice.
	I am here in FEMA Region 6, withering away from Ebola as I die.
	And hopefully I'll be here for the next Thursday show in Austin, Texas in the morning, everybody.
	My name is Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
	In the morning.
	Oh, there's no winning.
	We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot.
	Now everyone hug and share a secret.
	That's how we...
	That's how we...
	That's awful.
	It was worth it.
	It was worth it.
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