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I gotta go see this guy.
Who does he think he is?
Oh, it's the mouse guy.
Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
It's Thursday, October 16th, 2014.
Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 661.
This is no agenda.
Soon to be on the Do Not Board list nationwide.
Broadcasting from FEMA Region 6 in the capital of the drone star state, Austin, Texas.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Devorak.
All righty.
Just because you misplaced your paper, then you didn't have an opening line, I guess.
Well, I could have used that as the opening line, I suppose.
There you go.
But no.
No chance.
It is a very important day today, John.
It's a great day for America.
It is.
Oh, wow.
Was that the Ronald Reagan?
Who did the great day for America speech?
That's what Craig Ferguson does on his show every day.
No, it is a hashtag spirit day.
Hashtag Spirit Day.
We must all go purple today.
That's right.
This is from the GLAD? The GLADs?
The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Dorks?
What is GLAD? A gay and lesbian...
Yeah.
Gay and lesbian...
That's a good question, now that you mention it.
I don't know what it is either, really.
D-D? What is D-D? No, it's A-D. G-L-A-A-D. G-L-A-A-D. Yeah.
Gay and...
I don't get it.
It doesn't matter.
Look it up.
This is funny that you'd think that the two of us...
You'd think that we would know this, yeah.
Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Discrimination?
Well, I don't know.
Let's see.
Something like that.
Yeah, we should know.
This is quite disturbing.
Well, while you're looking...
This is the joke of it, but this is the difference.
This is new media versus old media.
New media, like this, we just say, well, let's just look it up.
Or as we say, we...
While you're looking that up, this is the...
Well, let's see.
It's not here on the GLAAD website.
So let's see what it might be under.
Today is the day we all go purple.
And lesbian alliance against defamation.
Defamation.
I was close enough.
Okay.
Today we all go purple, which means you need to change your...
Icon.
Well, yes, change your icon.
They have a little tool, Glad Spirit Day tool, to turn your profile picture purple and spread the word by posting to Twitter and Facebook.
This is because 8 out of 10 LGBT youth are bullied.
8 out of 10?
Mm-hmm.
Fact.
Says it right here on the website.
I'm looking at it right now.
That's a lot.
Yeah.
Does that include those big guys who work out at the gym and beat the crap out of people who would even attempt to kill them?
Yeah, I guess.
Those guys?
I'm sure.
There it is.
The number of LGBT youth who report being bullied, 8 out of 10.
Oh, well, once in their life, perhaps, they would...
What's bullying now?
What's the definition?
It just keeps varying.
I don't know.
I am not changing my icon.
I've already changed it to blue and green once, and I stayed with it.
You really did that?
Have you ever seen my icon?
It's blue and it's green.
Oh, okay, but it wasn't participating in any kind of day or anything.
No, it was changed to be all-purpose, and an icon, a true icon.
It's not a picture or anything.
It's just these colors, and I kept them.
Well, important colors, blue and green.
As I will say, right off the bat, we have an issue with all these anti-bullying laws that are being put into place, etc., as they are completely a breach of free speech.
It's the road to the end of free speech.
We've been watching this since the beginning of our show, and it just continues.
It's actually, since we've been doing this show for almost seven years, I want to remind people of that.
Yeah, that's coming up in ten days.
It's seven years of wonderment and some bewilderment that we can get on the air.
For so long.
It really is.
Well, this program, I have to say, there are so many facets to this show, besides just the show itself.
If you really think about the artwork we have, the infrastructure that we have that makes it all run, which is completely outside of any mainstream system.
We have our own infrastructure.
We have show notes and content management.
We have the No Agenda News Network.
We have a peerage program.
We've got great search.
We have the No Agenda Player, which I want to plug again, noagendaplayer.com, which is fantastic if you want to find just a little clip and send someone a link directly to that part of the show where we were talking about something.
It's also annotated.
We have apps.
We've got a stream.
We've got a book club.
But today, I want to highlight something you do.
No, it's not.
Yes, besides play, I forgot our musical prowess.
We have an orchestra.
The musical stylings of John C. Dvorak.
No, the newsletter.
Yes.
For people who have not subscribed to the newsletter, you are missing out on a big part of the show.
And I realize this once again.
Of course, whenever I read the newsletter, I think about these things.
But you had a dynamite newsletter.
Where you really summed it up that everything, certainly what you see in the United States of Gitmo Nation, but of course because of the vast, expansive nature of our mainstream media, it flows into every other country in the Gitmos.
Is that the main crises that you're seeing right now, if they are not being politicized, they were created for political reasons.
And it's important to understand this.
Right now, believe me, in the White House, in the halls of government, up on Capitol Hill, people are not talking about your safety.
They're not talking about your health.
They're talking about how they can stay in power and what do we need to do to get people to vote for them in, what was it, less than four weeks' time.
That's what it is.
You have to rethink all news items within 60 to 90 days of an election day as possibly connected.
LAUGHTER Possibly.
Wow.
One that was mentioned in this last newsletter was the following assertion, which is one that we've been harping on, which is these tricks the Democrats have been pulling to get Republican women to switch over, and it's just very targeted toward Republican women, to switch over by scaring them with guns and scaring them with this and that, and Sandy Hook.
And so it's...
Seems possible that the Republicans weren't going to stay flat-footed on this, which it appeared they were, but now that what triggered the thought in that newsletter was the Ebola bumper sticker.
Yeah, now was this a real Ebola bumper sticker that you saw in the wild, or is this one that was being sold?
Mimi saw it in the wild and told me about it.
So explain, since we're an audio...
It's a bumper sticker that looks like an Obama bumper sticker, uses the Obama logo, and says Ebola, and the O is the Obama logo.
Which, by the way, is copyrighted, and this is an illegal bumper sticker.
Oh, yeah.
And in the black trunks, weighing in at over 3,000 troops, the ISIS virus, the killer from Nigeria, Ebola!
I forgot to mention the jingles.
Is that going to be a ten-rounder or eight?
It may be knockout in the third, the way I see it.
Yeah, and something...
I noticed a couple things.
I don't know if you had something you wanted to start off with today.
Well, I just wanted to...
I don't have a clip that relates specifically to this observation, but what I wanted to say is that the Republicans, when they were running George Bush, I realized that all their fear-mongering had to do with terrorism and outside things attacking inside the country, in other words, outside forces that we had to protect everyone from.
And that was the way to frighten.
And I don't want to just blame this on the women.
Men fall for this too, as you know, because you've seen frightened men tell me about, "Oh, we're going to get killed by ISIS." Yeah, coming across the border.
Yeah.
And so the Republicans have always used that as their leverage, the big international threat.
And the Democrats have always gone short, been short.
They've been, you know, the gun threats, the gun threat, shooting a black kid, guns killing your kids, that sort of thing.
And so they have a kind of a more narrow image about how to scare people.
Yeah.
And the Republicans go for the big ones, and I realize that this is a whopper.
This Ebola thing is just a whopper.
Everything's about embarrassing the president.
And I think that I can show some of this politicization going on with some of the things that I've discovered, and there's a big whopper on the horizon, which is a very interesting one.
Perhaps...
I'll start off this way.
The president was at Andrew's Joint Base.
What is it?
Andrew's Air Force Base.
They have a joint somewhere.
They call it joint something.
There's a joint probably in the locker.
And he's there...
With all these flags and all these other generals, it looked like they came right out of central casting for Starfleet Command.
Then he's sitting there doing a presser, a 10-minute presser, mainly about ISIS. But then he pulls out the Ebola card.
And I wanted to play that and then show you that the President and the Democrats in the White House are realizing the danger that is upon them with this being blamed on him.
And what I'm seeing the blame turning out to be is because of Obamacare, because of the cuts, this is what the Republicans are saying, This is why things are going wrong.
This is why our system is ruined.
So he has to do whatever he can to combat this.
And then there's some other interesting things that are being done as well.
But this one first.
Sorry.
What was that?
Yeah, what kind of press conference was that?
I might as well play it now.
Obama, Ebola, has passed our own road.
Ebola's gonna kill us all.
Sorry.
It was queued up when I hit the wrong button.
We have made enormous strides in just a few short weeks in standing up a U.S. military operation in Western Africa.
Now listen very carefully about this military operation.
That apparently is necessary to fight Ebola.
They can start building the kind of transport lines and supply lines to get workers, supplies, medicine, equipment.
Does this sound strange to you, John, this supply lines?
What are they building?
The LIC is a couple of tents.
I have no idea.
We have three and a half thousand combat troops.
There's a number of serious things that have happened this week that are not necessarily explainable on the surface, and I think...
I think it's going to take a little more digging to figure out what's going on with some of this stuff.
And this may be one of them.
...into Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea.
And a number of the countries who are represented here are really stepping up and doing what's necessary in order for us to contain this epidemic.
But as I've said before, and I'm going to keep on repeating until we start seeing more progress...
Whenever he says this, you have to pay attention, because he's trying to make a very big point, and I think the point is, if other countries don't participate in our supply lines or whatever we're doing, we're going to send some Ebola your way, is the way it sounds.
The world as a whole is not doing enough.
There are a number of countries that have capacity that have not yet stepped up.
Those that have stepped up, all of us are going to have to do more, because unless we contain this at the source, this is going to continue to pose a threat to individual countries at a time when there's no place that's more than A couple of air flights away.
And the transmission of this disease, obviously, directly threats all our populations.
In addition, we have not only a humanitarian crisis in West Africa that threatens hundreds of thousands of lives, but we also have the secondary effects of destabilization economically and politically that could lead to more severe problems down the road.
Or perhaps some freedom and democracy coming your way.
That is possible.
Last night, or maybe it was the night before, I caught Anderson Pooper, who seems to be in Texas, outside the hospital, just standing around.
I could probably just drive up to Dallas and just say hi.
You know, we go so far back.
Then this cropped up, and all of a sudden I went, oh, okay, now I know what is happening.
Explosive claims now being made from the President of National Nurses United, who represents the nurses at this hospital, says when Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan was here at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, quote, the guidelines were constantly changing and, quote, there were no protocols.
And that's just the beginning of their claims.
Dr.
Sanjay Gupta was just on that press call.
He's back with us now.
But what is this organization claiming happened inside this hospital?
Now, before we let Sanjay Gupta in on the conversation, this is a union.
And this is what got my attention, that of all the things we could hear, and it's gone from health care worker to nurses, nurses, nurses, nurses, nurses, and I'm pretty sure why, but this kind of tipped me off, and I wasn't hearing a lot about this until these guys brought it up, and I'm seeing lower thirds, nurses may walk off the job.
So this is a union issue at this point.
They are making some pretty startling claims, Anderson, as you mentioned, from anonymous nurses within the hospital that do not wish to be identified.
But some of these things are so important with regard to possible other infections.
They say that Mr.
Duncan was left for several hours, not in isolation, but in an area where other patients were present, up to seven patients, they say.
And even after a nursing supervisor demanded that he be put into isolation, they say he was met with opposition from hospital authorities.
I just want to remind you, he said we heard from anonymous nurses, which means nothing.
It could be made up at this point.
Also, the laboratory samples, the blood samples, typically with patients who have a concern about infectious disease, they are taken straight to the lab.
Instead, they say this was transported to the hospital tube system, which is a tube system.
Tube?
It's like the internet, this tube system.
All sorts of samples are spent.
A lot of people have...
What is this about, tube system?
Apparently, this hospital is old-fashioned.
They have those vacuum tubes.
Like at the bank.
Yeah, like the bank used to have.
Or actually, I think a lot of banks still have that in the car drive-up.
Yeah, lots of banks still have that.
Yeah.
That's where you want your Ebola.
Watching around.
Have access to it, and they worry that the entire system there could be potentially contaminated.
This one really was quite...
It's also complete bogativeness.
The whole system might be contaminated.
This is still making it up, but again, it's coming from unconfirmed sources.
The container of Ebola blood was...
Blew off in the tube.
Was it leaking?
Surprising to me.
Apparently nurses expressed concern about the fact that their necks were not covered taking care of a patient with Ebola.
They were told to wrap medical tape.
He goes on and on about this.
A lot of it sounds bogus.
Yes.
Medical tape, really.
We have a nurse issue.
So the president, of course, wants to bring this to the forefront and say, no, it's all good.
I feel protected.
The nurses are good.
The nurses are okay.
As long as we follow the protocols.
I want to use myself as an example just so that people have a sense of the science here.
Oh, it's the science.
Yeah.
There's a lot of science flying around.
Yeah, for sure.
Science here.
I... Shook hands with, hugged, and kissed.
Not the doctors, but a couple of the nurses.
Not the doctors, but a couple of the nurses.
He hugged and kissed the nurses.
He's kissing nurses now?
What is wrong with this guy?
He's repeating this everywhere.
I want to use myself as an example just so that people have a sense of...
He's just looking for a cheap feel.
...the science here.
I... Oh, that's science.
Don't interrupt for a minute.
Shook hands with, hugged, and kissed.
Predator drones.
All right.
Come on.
All right, but I just threw that in just as a little ditty.
Yeah, that's right.
But then this one.
Down.
Now, this has not, I have not seen any real news reports about this nurses union.
We're talking about the National Nurses United.
Here is a clip I was able to find.
I can't remember what this is from, but, well, it becomes apparent here.
Oh!
This is from July this year, so this is a couple months ago.
What kind of power?
Cavalbain joined about 300 nurses and union representatives who gathered in front of the California Nurses Association building to slam their employer, Kaiser Permanente, of dismissing the importance of patient care, which is alarming, they say, because Kaiser is the largest health insurer and hospital system in California.
We had a rally today.
We were supposed to have bargaining, but our employer failed to show up, so we went to them instead.
So we rallied over at their offices and let them know that we were there and what our purpose was to be there.
The nurses say that despite the $1.1 billion increase in Kaiser profits for the first quarter of 2014, Kaiser still allows chronic understaffing and continues to cut patient services.
Those cuts include hospital admission restrictions, holding patients in observation for over 72 hours, and prematurely sending patients from Kaiser hospitals to other settings that include homes where the burden of providing care falls on the families.
So there is a dispute, and there's about 200,000 workers in this union, a dispute that I believe is being politicized with this Ebola.
Yeah.
And it's interesting that it's Kaiser.
So Kaiser is one of, if not the largest health insurer.
Right.
Funny how, you know, you have the Kaiser Health Report on NPR. Yeah.
It's funny how there's not a lot of reporting on this issue between Kaiser and the nurses.
Good catch.
I don't see much coverage of it at all.
Yeah.
Because the mainstream media, again, even if it's public, NPR, or PBS in this case, it's corrupt.
It's corrupted by this.
But this will not stay under the radar.
This is being pushed very, very hard.
When you have nurses walking off the job because they don't feel safe, because they're going to assert or the Republican Party will assert is because of Obamacare cuts.
And right now it's kind of covered up that all premiums are about to rise for workers covered at work.
So it's very nice.
And besides, you know, why wouldn't you?
You should pay more to be covered for Ebola.
This is a huge problem for the administration.
That's good.
A huge problem.
Just looking at this bogative clipboard guy with the plane and taking the nurse to the hospital in Atlanta, I just don't believe it anymore.
I'm not going to believe it.
Here's another one for you then.
I think adds right into the basic thesis here.
The second nurse that caught Ebola somehow out of Dallas jumps on an airplane after supposedly, according to the New York Times, calls the CDC, says, I have a little temperature and I've been working on that guy that had Ebola.
Is it okay for me to fly?
Good to go!
Good to go!
And so they said she's good to go because she's not 100.4 degrees, which is the earmark of our Ebola.
She was only 99.1.
Oh, but according to the literature, if it's 101.5, that is the, which I have just pinching a loaf.
Geez, how did that get into the conversation?
I just thought about that guy who fixed the air conditioner.
Oh, now.
Anyway, so she's now on an airplane.
Yeah, isn't it great?
Floating around, and this is just drawing more attention to both the nurse's dilemma and the Ebola.
Uh-huh.
And I don't think the unions realize that they're playing kind of into Republican hands here.
Well, maybe.
Who knows?
The unions, I don't think the unions necessarily care who they're working with.
I think the unions, they just want the power.
They just want what they want, yeah.
Now, NBC, just to prove how bogus all of this really is, NBC, they had a cameraman, still as yet unexplained, was he filming and touching people at the same time with his other hand?
Did he slip and fall in some goo?
I mean, who knows how he received this Ebola, but everyone who was on the crew was in quarantine and And Nancy Snyderman, the NBC doctor who was there and who also was in quarantine, just completely ignored it.
She was walking around in New Jersey at a restaurant.
And our chief medical editor, Dr.
Nancy Snyderman, has been in the news herself these past few days.
We spoke with Nancy earlier today, during which time she said, quote, While under voluntary quarantine guidelines, which called for our team to avoid public contact for 21 days, members of our group violated those guidelines and understand that our quarantine is now mandatory until 21 days have passed.
We remain healthy and our temperatures are normal.
As a health professional, I know that we have no symptoms and pose no risk to the public, but I am deeply sorry for the concerns this episode caused.
We are thrilled that Ashoka is getting better and our thoughts continue to be with the thousands affected by Ebola, whose stories we all went to cover.
Bullshit!
This is total crap!
Everybody knows that this is just a bunch of fear-mongering, scary stuff for the elections.
And Snyderman knows that.
I'm not going to sit in my house for three weeks.
I'm going to go get a pizza.
Well, either that or Snyderman's a Republican operative.
Well, there's that possibility.
But let's just, this morning, I clipped this off of CNN this morning.
This is so crazy.
Of course, we see last night, or was it last night or the night before, we see this airplane and we see the so-called second patient, the nurse in her yellow, it's not rain slicker, it's not really a hazmat suit, and then there's clipboard guy walking around.
And this needs to be explained.
So CNN, you know, they can't get an official answer from anybody.
So they go to the next best thing, which, of course, is ABC News, because they're pretty much the spokeshole arm for the administration.
And then there's that guy.
This is Michaela, by the way, our friend Michaela.
There's that guy.
Michaela's on CNN. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
CNN. Oh, there's this ABC. CNN couldn't get an official to talk about it.
They got ABC to tell them what the truth is.
Oh, I get it.
Okay.
And then there's that guy.
That guy with clipboard, in street clothes, not wearing any sort of protective clothing.
Is this concerning, Elizabeth?
I think to the untrained eye, the optics of it are concerning.
There's your optics again.
The optics are concerning.
Oh, you see.
Four people taking great caution in taking care of a patient who is in the yellow hazmat suit.
Right, so optics are not always right.
Optics are not always right, right?
Optics are not always right.
This is a great sentence.
This one should be a bumper sticker, right?
Optics are not always right.
We reached out to Phoenix Air, the folks who were doing the transport.
We haven't gotten a hold of them, but they did speak to ABC News, and they had a very reasonable explanation.
Oh, but, I mean, if ABC News says so, then it just must be true.
Which is that the guys in the suits have limited visibility, and so you want someone out there to give them verbal directions, not touch them, but to say, you know, move here or go here or do this or here.
You can't get, you're not in this shot!
Hit your mark!
Hit your mark!
And background and action!
Yeah, the guy was holding the script.
This was a rehearsal shot.
Supervisor, according to ABC. And you can see that he's keeping his distance.
So I know it might look a little bit funny, but he...
I look a little funny.
Pay no attention to the funny looking stuff.
The optics are not always right.
You know, at that distance, he's not going to, you know, he's not right near her.
He's not in contact with her bodily fluids.
I'm pleased to say that Clipboard Guy now has his own Twitter handle.
So if anyone wants to tweet to him...
Let's distract people quickly with a Twitter.
You want to tweet to him?
You might be feeling a little, yeah.
Now, but wait.
Wait, wait, wait.
You're going to love this.
You know, we've got to remember the science here.
And I think that gets lost in a lot of this, Elizabeth.
I mean, doctors are in Africa all the time treating people.
If you're more than three feet away, the science says that you'll be okay.
And clipboard guy didn't seem to get within three feet there.
He seemed to be being careful.
I don't think it was perhaps an oversight.
He knew what he was doing.
And for $500, John C. Dvorak, the science says...
Three feet away, you're safe.
That's exactly right.
Good job.
Well, let's play these little background clips then.
Can I do my big review?
No.
Give me some background clips.
Okay, let's play these.
There's two that I pulled down that I thought were in.
One, of course, is the background clip on that second nurse flying around, which is just the intro to the story itself, and you can play that.
Yeah, you need to tell me the name of it.
That's Ebola new case flying around.
Oh, new case flying around.
A second Texas health care worker.
I love Amy Goodman.
Did we have a clip where she said explosive diarrhea?
Someone said we needed to clip that out.
I don't have it, but it sounds like a winner.
A second Texas health care worker has tested positive for Ebola in the United States after treating the first person diagnosed with the disease here on U.S. soil.
The unnamed worker follows the positive diagnosis of nurse Nina Pham, who is said to be in good condition.
Both treated Thomas Eric Duncan, who died last week.
The Centers for Disease Control has identified what it calls a large group of other workers involved in Duncan's care who may be at risk.
The nation's largest nurses union, National Nurses United, has accused hospitals of failing to protect workers from the virus.
On Tuesday, the CDC...
CDC acknowledged it should have acted faster to respond to the Duncan case, saying it could have prevented the workers' infections.
CDC Director Thomas Frieden also announced the establishment of new units to respond to Ebola cases.
Ebola.
It's interesting how the president and Frieden and all these guys, after the first nurse fell ill, were, you know, oh, follow the protocols, we can contain this.
And then, I believe that it's fake, John.
Nothing would be better than to have this happen.
You embarrass the entire establishment, the entire administration.
Yeah, well, that's the goal I'm now beginning to believe.
Let's listen to the bullcrap Ebola analysis.
The problem is that much of our innovation is driven by the private sector, and from their point of view, Ebola was not a predictable disease, and those who got Ebola were too poor to pay for it, and so there's been a lack of investment.
Not only were there not enough doses of Z-Map and things, but they weren't even tested.
There are only now vaccines and others going through clinical testing.
And so we really just don't have those things on the ground.
I just want to make a very quick comment, if I can, about we call ourselves the most advanced health system in the world.
Oh, man.
What do we mean by that?
I think what we mean by that is that we have the best of the best of the world, but we also have a highly variable system.
So many different hospitals, so many different emergency rooms.
We have over 3,500 local health authorities.
Wow, these clips fit in perfectly.
You're so right.
This is completely...
Moving in the direction of, Obamacare has failed us, and wait for it, put it in the book, somewhere some Republican is going to say, death panels.
Who gets the vaccine?
Death panels.
You watch, you watch.
They won't reuse the exact same phrase, but it'll be similar.
Why not?
Well, you could, I guess.
The public is dumb.
Why not?
I'll put it in the book.
Put it in the book.
Put it in the book.
Adam.
Eh, put it in the book.
Now, I only have one more that I think can follow up when you do your big reveal, because it's just a little...
It's about the nonsense of numbers that we're getting about it.
Well, we can play it.
This is not...
This is this one.
I'll give you kind of the background, because it's a short clip.
It's Ebola 1 to 10,000.
Everyone's going on about, well, we've had almost...
We have 9,000 cases, but it's going to all of a sudden become 10,000 cases a week.
Have you heard this?
Doesn't surprise me.
We're all going to die.
It's going from a total for the last three months, which was supposed to be going up exponentially and hasn't, as far as I can tell.
But now it's going to skyrocket.
And, you know, we've got to get these numbers up or scare the public even more.
It's 8,914 cases are the number today.
We will go over 9,000 cases this week.
This trend, as you can see, the number of reported deaths are 4,447 as of this morning.
We anticipate the number of cases occurring per week by that time is going to be somewhere between 5,000 and 10,000 a week.
It could be higher, it could be lower, but it's going to be somewhere in that But what happens if they're wrong?
If they're wrong, life as you know it on Earth ends.
Catastrophe.
Yeah.
It works for everybody.
That's a keeper.
Now, the other number they've been throwing out, I don't know how they got this because the guy just gave the numbers.
There's 4,400 deaths out of over 9,000 cases, almost 10,000 cases.
This is like jobs saved or created.
I heard on NPR earlier this week that we have to keep it below the 70% mortality rate.
That is the magic tipping point number.
And it's all just made up.
It's made up.
Show me the piles of dead people.
Show me.
Show me the boils and the bleeding from the eyeballs.
Show me.
I can handle it.
I can handle dead Palestinian children.
Come on, show it to me.
Show it to me.
Yeah, they do.
We have to remind our listeners and producers that they have no qualms.
The mainstream media, the public broadcasters, everybody have no qualms about showing us dead Palestinians in Gaza, dead babies, but they won't show us this.
Yeah, you can't see it.
They show something wrapped up, thrown in a hole.
They've shown a couple of them.
Once, once.
I haven't seen anybody bleeding from the eyes.
No.
You're supposed to bleed from the ears, the eyes, and the mouth.
The only people I see in these tents, apparently there's lots of crews over there, including Nancy Snyderman.
They're filming, and you don't see people with boils and blisters and any other evidence of hemorrhagic fever.
No, you see them drinking.
Oh, I'm going to drink some water.
I'm so sick from Ebola.
You know, we have a kid walking around and laying down on the ground for the CNN camera.
Oh, I'm an Ebola victim.
That clip is a classic.
Here's the big reveal.
Okay.
To prove to you.
Now, you need to see the video, but I'll explain what it is, and then, more importantly, who's behind this.
This is Republican Cuts Kill from the Agenda Project, which is interesting in relation to our little show here.
And this video, they're trying to make this go viral, really pushing very hard, and it is blaming the Ebola crisis on the cuts Republicans forced through Congress.
Okay.
Washington actually can cut spending.
The CDC says its discretionary funding has been cut by 585 million since 2010.
Cut.
Less government.
Cut.
Cut.
Our budget has been flat since 2003.
Responding to an emerging infectious disease threat, this is particularly damaging.
Cut.
Cut.
That was the left hook.
Cut.
Cut.
The right cross was the sequestration.
Cut.
Cut.
The NIH saw its budget slashed by 446 million.
There are outbreaks happening today that we're not able to recognize, stop, or prevent as effectively as we should be able to.
Make a cut.
So you see...
Breathing.
Cuts kill.
Republicans kill people.
This is the counter...
Yes.
The counterattack.
And here's the first thing that comes to mind when I hear this.
The CDC had $585 million cut.
How big is their budget?
Yeah.
Well, wait.
The Agenda Project, New York-based nonprofit organization, founded by Erica Payne.
Does this ring a bell?
No.
Erica Payne, well, she has a wiki page here.
Let me read to you.
Prior to joining the...
Founder of the Agenda Project, monthly newsletter, 10,000 political philanthropic leaders.
Before joining the Agenda Project full-time, Payne led the Tesseract Group, a boutique consulting firm that provided strategy and communications, served as a senior strategist for the Roosevelt Institute, There she, let's see, worked with George Soros, Elizabeth Warren, Simon Johnson, other clients, the Brennan Center for Justice, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics, and her early career, she served as Deputy National Finance Director for the Democratic National Committee...
And so, you know, she's making $300,000 a year off of this $900,000 a year grant that she gets in for this little nonprofit of hers.
You know, she's a Democrat operative.
Yes, of which $150,000 is for travel.
So it's pretty much a nice life for her.
And she was told, hey, go out there, do something quick.
And she threw together this video.
That sounds quick.
Cut, cut, cut, cut, cut.
Just threw it together.
And so that, to me, is proof that they are scrambling, trying to do anything to turn this around, and possibly...
I don't know how, but someone's going to endear and embrace the nurses' union, and they better do it quick.
So Obama, who says he's out there hugging and kissing the nurses...
I mean, how low will you stoop?
It's like, let's say some of my best friends are black or gay.
Well, I kissed some nurses.
I think that's a lousy thing to say.
It's very pathetic.
Yes, it's not presidential either.
No, it's lousy.
And now if Bill Clinton said it, it'd make more sense.
Yeah, it's funnier.
Yeah.
And I guess we're going to see the big...
The big benefit coming soon.
The Zuckerbergs have donated.
Tell me this.
Zuckerberg.
So how much was cut from the CDC's budget?
Half a billion, you said?
$5.85.
Yeah, $5.85.
So this makes sense.
Right in line, the Zuckerbergs, they're now known as the Zuckerbergs.
The Zucks.
The Zucks.
Have donated $25 million to the CDC, which as far as I know is not a philanthropic organization.
It's a government agency.
Yeah, you don't donate to it.
It's like, what is it like?
It's like donating to a city government or something.
It's just beyond me.
This is from Atlanta.
The CEO of Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg, and his wife, Priscilla Chan.
Hey, why is her name not Zuckerberg?
Because she's a vegan and she refuses to kowtow to societal norms where you might change your last name because it's beneath her as a woman and a feminist.
That's right.
And I have to say, Miss Mickey also has kept her name, her Hoogendyk name.
So that is a thing of modern women.
So that's fine.
Well, a percentage of them.
But I'm not going to allow her to make a $25 million donation to the CDC Foundation.
They have a foundation?
Oh, that's interesting.
Let's do some research.
Oh, you know what we have to do here.
To the Batcave!
Alfred, what did we find?
CDC Foundation.
I'm at guidestar.org, which is kind of my go-to website.
And let's see if there is...
That is interesting.
Come on, GuideStar.
What are we doing?
Nonprofit that creates programs with the CDC. So they're like a parallel...
They're like a shadow government.
Well, there's two.
Okay, this is interesting.
So the CDC Foundation, which is in Dallas, Texas, very, very small, $178,000, but you have the National Foundation for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Inc., also known as CDC Foundation in Atlanta, Georgia.
I said that would be the one.
$27 million they have.
25 of it from Zuckerberg.
And this is their 2013 filing.
I'll bring that up real quick.
Oh, this is big.
Oh, my goodness.
202 pages.
I'll never get through it.
Okay, I will take a look at this foundation.
How does this work?
That's very interesting.
All right, we'll take a look at that for sure.
Make a gift save a life.
I'm looking at their webpage.
Is that their website?
Yeah.
Our story, our board, our staff.
Let's take a look at the board.
Oh, boy.
This will be fun.
The head of the board, Douglas Nelson, who's also the head of the Annie E. Casey Foundation.
Raymond J. Baxter is Senior Vice President of Kaiser Permanente.
Oh, gee, there's our friends again.
Gary Bohan from GBC Health, one of those HMOs.
Lee Devlin, who is a University of North Carolina school.
She's a professor.
Charles Dominguez, office of the chairman and CEO of Cisco Systems.
Oh, yeah.
It's a big Silicon Valley hootenanny.
James W. Down, Mercer Management Consulting.
James, next generation out of San Francisco.
Can I just say something?
Aspen Institute.
We are so in the wrong business.
Turner Broadcasting.
We are really...
Oh.
Turner Broadcasting, he's fighting off the fans.
Here's another John Rice, president and CEO of GE Technology Infrastructure.
Of course, because those guys supply medical devices.
Big, corrupt organization.
Here's the chair, emeritus chairmen that used to be there.
President of the Pendleton Consulting Group, United Parcel Service CEO, Home Depot, Georgia Pacific.
Well, Georgia Pacific makes all kinds of paper products.
Yeah, I've heard that.
That also in hospitals.
Nappies and so.
Not sure what the deal is with this group.
Well, we'll look into that.
It's like a drinking club to me, to be honest about it.
Not with $26 million.
Well, they can buy the good stuff.
That's for sure.
So, I say, wait for the big benefit show.
To save Africans and ourselves.
It's too late for the elections.
The elections are around the corner.
They can't do it in time.
They can't set it up.
I've got to take this call, see who the hell is calling me.
And we had this guy, and I'll continue with my spiel.
I don't know what's going on back there in Austin.
But we had this benefit recently that we talked about in the lawn of...
Of the Central Park, New York, which could have been leveraged into something like this, but that was it.
Now we're done.
We're not having any more benefits.
This is a nightmare waiting to happen.
I hate it when someone calls you and says, I want to speak to Adam Corey.
When I say, who's calling?
I'm reaching out to Adam Corey.
Who are you?
I never get a call.
Again, I'm on some list.
Yep, you get on a list.
Tell them to take you off the list.
Well, I said I'm doing a podcast.
What?
Oh my god, I'll call back.
What's a podcast?
Oh my god, I'll call back.
We'll finish this up.
I wanted to talk about podcasting for a second.
I think we're kind of done for the moment with the Ebola stuff.
I guarantee it'll return to the fore.
They're going to ride this pony.
This is better than the ISIS pony, which they've been riding.
But I think the ISIS pony is a little too...
a two it's not you know the Democrats know how to do stuff that hits home in other words happening in your backyard is actually happening the ISIS thing nothing's happening it's bullcrap and I don't think it's having the effect the needed effect it is scaring a few people but I think this is much better this is real get people going yeah yeah Yeah.
Does anybody mention, by the way, that there's been one death in the United States, which is the African guy from Ebola, and there'll be 40,000 deaths from the flu?
Does that mean anything?
Or 40,000 car accidents?
Yeah.
There's relative statistics, because these people are so science-oriented, they don't seem to care about their actual numbers.
So this is the point.
By the way.
Yes, but I just want to bring it back to say, good job on the newsletter, because you certainly jarred me, and we'll talk about the caliphate later, that everything you are seeing right now that is a crisis is just a political move to make you vote for one or the other party.
Now you wanted to say something.
You ever notice how many people...
Day after day, you hear it from somebody.
Republicans hate science, and they don't like science, and they're anti-science.
And the people saying this are usually people who graduated in social studies.
You know what I mean?
None of them are scientists.
There's 30,000 people that are scientists that have signed a petition saying this global warming thing needs to be re-examined.
And nobody pays attention to that.
And they're actual scientists, but it's like Joy Behar.
These people, many of them are high school dropouts.
And they're all in on this so-called science that they don't know anything about science.
They've never been a scientist.
They've never worked in science.
Science says.
One clip to wrap it up, just to show you that Chris Matthews, who is on MSNBC? Yes.
So he, of course, is on board with the messaging.
He did something beautiful.
He went from Ebola to Republicans hate black people in one sentence.
Wow!
Yeah, it was really good.
Here it comes.
Good evening.
I'm Chris Matthews in Washington.
The nurse's name is Nina Pham.
She took care of America's first Ebola case.
And now she's the second.
And the man-made virus called voter suppression.
This weekend in North Carolina, I asked Kay Hagan whether Republicans are out to cut the Democratic vote or simply screw the black vote.
Screw the black folk!
Wow.
The guy's a genius.
He goes right into this.
Here's her answer.
So is this based on racialism, racism, or partisanship?
Why are they trying to screw the black voter, to put it bluntly?
Is it because they don't like blacks or because they don't like Democrats?
You know, I think they are trying to suppress Democratic turnout.
So it's plain and simple.
But African Americans think that they're being targeted because they're African Americans, not because they're Democrats.
Well, you know, I tend to agree with them.
So it's both.
Yeah!
We hate the black people!
We Republicans hate the black people!
My goodness!
Yeah, they're shameless at MSNBC. Shameless, and they're always playing the race card.
They're the racists.
But, John, this is egregious behavior.
This is calling half of the voting American public, or, yeah, I would say close to half, depending on however you want to count it, Of the voting public.
Racists!
Republicans hate black folks.
Screw you!
I mean, I'm not a Republican, I'm not a Democrat, but I'm an American.
I'm offended by the whole notion of what he's saying.
That there is a political party in the United States who get together and talk about how much they want to screw the black folk.
My goodness!
Luckily no one watches it.
Yeah, only the true believers watch MSNBC, and they're already thinking that way.
It doesn't really affect anyone.
Well, with that, I would like to thank you for your courage.
In the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
Well, in the morning to you, and in the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
Yes, and in the morning to all the human resources there in the chatroom, noagendastream.com, and to our artistes back with a vengeance...
Nick the Rat on episode 660.
It was good to see Nick with his submission.
And it was tough.
We talked about a number of them.
Yes, we had a hard time with that last group.
But Nick the Rat was clearly...
I thought he had the best messaging.
It was nicely designed.
It had a good layout.
Actually, it was a good-looking piece.
It really was.
And the thing that's hard is sometimes...
The piece is right on, but we want to use the theme in the title, and we've come up with some rule.
I don't know even why we had...
The rule is, if the topic's in the title, it can't be part of the artwork.
I really don't know why we have this rule, but why is that?
We decided.
Yeah.
We didn't like the idea of redundancy.
No, I think what it was, was there was a...
I made that lip-smacking sound.
I think it was, we like to have a creative artwork that kind of expresses part of the show and then a title that expresses an overall part of the show that isn't reflected.
I don't know.
That's what we decided.
That's the way it is.
Exactly.
We just decided one day and that was the meeting.
Yeah, and that's the model we use.
Yeah.
So let's thank some people.
Well, the model we use, truly, is the value-for-value model, where people give us the amount they think is the value that they receive from the program.
And sometimes, look at your health care payment.
I think we're probably keeping you healthier than Obamacare.
Oh, absolutely.
Your mental health is extremely important, and we are helping you protect yourself against the onslaught Of negative, frightening messaging that is...
That is not healthy.
Everybody knows that this is stress-provoking and not healthy.
Correct.
And we show you that is probably, in most, 99% of the cases, I'm sure something happens once in a while that's accurate, but 99% is bogus, created news, it's exaggerated, it's created to frighten you, in this case, so you vote for a certain party at a certain time, because you're fed up with the other party.
Yep.
Because they're just, they're bad.
They're using you.
Hey, black folk!
The system is corrupt.
All right.
Let's thank a few executive and associate executive producers for show 661, including Philip Zirin, who came in with 86667, which matches his previous donation of 133.
These came in as wire transfers.
He sent these in from, I think, Czechoslovakia.
Czech Republic is what that word is.
Czech Republic.
Okay, that's different.
Well, there's no Czechoslovakia.
I think the hello 1980 calling.
Check for public on the line for John C. Dvorak.
Here's his note.
In the morning, gentlemen, with this donation, I'd like to thank you both for your excellent work and give value for value.
As I lately sat in my chair in the garden, I looked up at the stars while listening to your show, surrounded by the darkness and thinking about all the crap that is happening and the ruthlessness of our globe.
I quite...
I felt quite happy to know that you both are watching them.
Besides the giant amount of information you provide in your show, which I've used several times in my own blog, digichander.ch, which I believe is Switzerland.
Digichanders?
Digichander, single.
D-I-G-I Chander.
C-H-O-N-D-E-R dot C-H. I wonder, yeah, I thought C-H was Switzerland as well.
Well, he's in Switzerland.
Well, it says Czech Republic on the spreadsheet.
I don't see anything.
Oh, I probably put that there like an idiot.
I enjoy it every time.
It's even bigger fun to listen to old episodes before I started to listen earlier this year to see which of your predictions have come true.
All of them.
And if you ever come to Switzerland, be my guest.
Is he near Zug?
I don't know where he is.
He's in Switzerland somewhere.
Although it's a small country, you can drive around pretty easily.
I accept this donation to complete my knighthood.
From there on, I want to be called Sir Philip Paladin of Common Sense.
Oh, let me make sure that is on the spread, on the donation list.
He's in Grunwig.
No, Winter, sir.
Okay, give it to me again.
Sir Philip.
Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.
It's not on the thing.
Sir Philip, yeah.
Which is with an F. Yes, and one L. Paladin of Common Sense.
Paladin of Common Sense.
Now, I hope people will be able to hear me pronounce it with an F and not a PH. But I don't want to mess it up.
They have an interesting name.
Switzerland does go along with a lot of interesting names.
Yeah.
Like a female name in Switzerland is Regula.
Which I just think is just, you know, I think a Greek goddess or something.
It's a great, you know, I've never heard of anyone outside of Switzerland with the name Regula.
Well, I have to say, Philip, thank you so much for this fantastic donation, support for the show, and I very much look forward to the ceremony today, knighting you, good sir.
Does he want any kind of, well, should we give him karma at least, I think?
Is that what he would want?
Yeah, give us some.
I love handing out the karma.
You've got karma.
That's all I got.
Beautiful.
Sir Don Tommaso de Toronto came in again with 37373, 373773s.
Kettleby, Ontario, Canada.
Just some karma for the freeloading boners.
Remember, I don't know why we were giving karma out to the freeloading boners, but okay.
Remember, kids, a guilty conscience increases the possibility of contracting Ebola by 33%.
All right.
You've got karma.
I think, actually, I should give him a little...
It's an interesting number, the 37373, so I don't know if he's a ham or not.
He must be.
Sir Don Tommaso di Toronto.
Why don't you play that little Ebola jingle, that new one, that's that little song that ends with Ebola.
I think Ebola, somebody should do the old Calypso song.
Ebola, Ebola.
Obama, Ebola, has that song grown.
Ebola's gonna kill us all.
That's a beauty.
Who did that?
That is Paul.
Paul did that.
Outstanding.
Outstanding.
Jason Berg in Portland, Oregon, 33334.
I finally decided on my knighthood name, and I would like to be the knight of Peacock Lane.
Oh, wait a minute.
Do we have this in the...
After so many years of listening since DSC, I would like to be de-douched and have a little girl don't eat me followed by shut up, it's science.
I've added my extra penny for the need a penny cup on the counter and hope for a little karma for everyone listening.
Okay, so he wants de-douching.
He wants, uh...
Don't eat me, Hillary.
Don't eat me, Hillary.
And then it's science.
And then karma, obviously.
I think I can do that.
You've been de-douched.
Don't eat me, Hillary Clinton!
Shut up already!
Science!
You've got karma.
Nailed that one.
Thank you.
Thank you, Jason.
Daniel Hochstein in surprise, surprise, Arizona, 33333.
John and Adam attached by first donation towards executive producership and knighthood.
This is his first donation.
Why is he in blue?
What is blue?
It was knighthood.
Yeah, knighthood.
This is his first donation, he says.
Hmm.
Well, he's even on the list.
Let me see.
I think Eric did a search for knighthood, saw this, and put him on the list.
So he's not on the list.
Eric needs to stop drinking.
Can't thank you, but he actually just...
I'm sorry, touchy subject?
Yeah.
No, he doesn't really drink that much.
Uh-huh.
I'm working diligently to spread the word.
If you wouldn't mind, I'd appreciate a mention of my tech business, Media Technologies Consulting.
We provide consulting.
We provide a turnkey proprietary service called Dynamic Edge that helps the restaurant and bar owners increase sales.
That sounds good.
I wonder how.
It allows them to add multimedia in-house promotional content to the same TV screens they already have showing live sports and news so they can promote their own products and services.
Drink more!
And services to the customers already in the door.
Buffalo wings.
We provide everything, the hardware, and it goes on.
Hey, this is something that always has amazed me.
But even in some of the classiest restaurants slash bars, I see sports on TVs.
It baffles me.
Yes, at the bar usually, not in the restaurant.
Yeah, but even if it's attached to a nice restaurant, I don't know.
It's an American thing.
You think it's low-end.
I don't believe you're feeling that way.
I think it's the same thing as the people that used to always turn their cell phones off and not take calls in a restaurant.
Now it's like everybody takes calls.
Yeah, true.
Anyway, thanks for getting digital signs.com.
Check it out.
Thanks for producing the most amazing and relevant podcast amazing in the universe.
Keep up the good work.
Sincerely, Daniel Hochstein.
Private Bologna's got some little notes.
I'm going to give him a little bit of karma there for the business.
Sounds like he can do well.
I've got karma.
We hope he does well.
Whoa!
Now I have a disappointing anonymous note from Parts Unknown.
It was given to me as a check at the Twitter place.
And I want to say that I would have stuck around with this couple and chatted more.
I was a little annoyed by the last show.
But I'm going to send you a copy of this note.
This is one of our...
This is apparently somebody you met, and it's kind of a private note, and I just want to say it's a very nice couple, husband and wife, beautiful wife, and it was just good meeting you both.
And that's 33333.
You don't have to say it.
I'll say it.
I think you were a true gentleman.
You stood up, and you called...
I didn't see anybody else.
Oh, I got a lot of notes about that.
Teresa Huxley, Far Hills, New Jersey, $333 flat.
A note from the wife of Knight Jim Morgan of Steeplechase.
Any No Agenda listeners are welcome to come out to our spot at the Steeplechase this year for brisket from Texas pulled pork and kava.
Wow.
Thank you.
Which I assume is the sparkling wine from Spain.
I realized that I had not donated in a while when I kept seeing versions of the number 33 while en route to New York City.
I saw 333 on a column on the path train.
I've never seen it in eight years.
My exodus 33 in New Jersey.
I just wish I could get some of the jingles out of my subconscious.
Play that little Ebola one again.
I just love that one.
You really like that one, huh?
Play it again one more time.
It's got a jingle quality.
Obama, Ebola, has passed on.
Ebola's gonna kill us all.
I like it.
While we were visiting friends in Barcelona, they played me an ad.
It must have been, if you see something, say something on the Metro.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
While we're at it.
Might as well.
And yes, I sang it out loud.
Also, thank you for playing Judge Jeanine's statement that America faces the biggest single threat in 200 years.
Of course, she's a Republican operative.
Now it makes more sense, doesn't it?
Yes.
I finally understand the idiotic ready.gov commercials.
Make a plan and the free heirloom seeds.
Ebola's real, people!
Give her some karma.
Thank you very much, Teresa.
That's lovely.
Say hi to your husband.
You've got karma.
Sir Jim.
The steeplechase.
Okay, Todd Moss.
This is the note I lost.
Todd's not listening.
Todd is off on a vacation, but I want to put him on the birthday list.
Oh, okay.
For the 15th, but he wants this to be read on November 1st, his note.
And so I'm going to move it to November 1st if I find it.
Well, do I put him on the birthday list or what?
Yeah, you might as well.
So the 15th is today.
And how old is he?
His birthday was yesterday.
And how old is he?
He didn't say.
Okay.
He's on vacation, though.
Yeah, he's not listening to this show.
I don't know why he doesn't go back and pick the show up, but he likes to listen, I guess, either live or...
That's fine.
I agree.
I think people always say to me, no, but there's things, you know, we need to listen to everything because there's things you pick up on and then we don't know what it is and it's very important.
I said, screw it, skip it.
That's what I say.
That's what I say.
You can catch it.
You can kind of get the gist.
You could be listening.
We could be dead, and then you'll be like three episodes behind, and we'd be dead.
Yeah, and then you wouldn't be able to show up for the funeral.
Funeral, exactly.
Stephen Olker in Jersey City, New Jersey.
Jersey, representing.
Nice.
24242.
Yeah, that's true.
Longtime listener, first time donor enough to get a call out on the show.
First time donating enough to get a call out on the show.
I've been on the $11.11 plan since April, which everyone out there should be doing, he puts an uppercase.
True.
And I had a $5 a month plan throughout 2010, but had to go on hiatus in between.
Now, in contemplating what to get my girlfriend Katie for her birthday this Saturday, 10-18, we've got her on the list, finally conclude there'd be nothing better than a donation to the best podcast in the universe and subscription birthday shout-out for her.
We often spend many Denver dinner conversations debating current events thanks to you guys.
You're welcome.
Yes.
Please send her a dose of job karma, and how about a jobs, jobs, jobs, let's vote for Ebola.
It's gross.
Is that what he wants?
Yes, yeah.
Ebola.
Oh.
It is scary and wretched and miserable.
It is gross.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Ebola.
There you go.
Tough one.
I don't think anyone's done the let's vote for Ebola yet.
Well, in fact, this is exactly what's happening.
Let's vote for Ebola.
Yes, exactly.
He's kind of ahead of the game.
Unbeknownst to his subconscious mind, he brought that out in his note.
That's right.
Keep having the good work.
P.S. The donation amount reflects adding up Katie's birthday.
10-18-14 equals 42 plus the minimum producer amount of 200 with the bonus 42 to make it a palindrome if my accounting is right.
I've already donated.
He's up to $400.
That's not 24242.
It's indeed a great palindrome.
Yeah, 24242424.
Adam, could you please add a P to the end of your LGBTQIA P for poly?
I'm sure me, Katie, and the other poly-noagenda listeners are furious.
Oh, poly as in polyamorous?
I guess.
Hey, Jersey!
What's going on in Jersey?
Jersey City, baby!
It's in the water.
That's right.
Nicholas McFall in Herndon, Virginia.
23456, one of my all-time favorite donation numbers.
ITM John and Adam realize it's been a while since I donated.
I'm a few episodes behind, but since ISIL and the Ebola are still in the news, the show doesn't seem dated.
The show is excellent.
Keeps getting better.
I'd like some travel and promotion karma along with a Putin, LGY, and little kid boom shakalaka.
Okay, a Putin...
Hold on a second.
A Putin and LGY... Is this the yay?
Hold on a second.
Yay!
I just had to make sure that was the right one.
Putin, LGY... What was the...
A little kid boom shakalaka.
Oh, boom shakalaka.
Oh, man, which is, I have to say, is one of the favorites these days.
Boom shakalaka!
Boom shakalaka!
You've got karma.
Only a little kid could pull that off.
That's right.
A true winner.
A pro.
That kid is going places.
Soon-to-be PhD assets in Concord, California Raptor Road for me, $200.
Thank you, Von Pelzmacher, Foley, and others who sustain this important resource for the rest of us who really haven't found a way to donate enough.
Imagine if the only place you could find John was on the Lifestyle Show.
Sitting quietly like a real man.
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Oh, wow.
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Yeah.
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There you go, Andrew, coming at you.
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To get you into the topic, since you probably already forgot you mentioned it, there is going to be a podcasting hall of fame at this year's Las Vegas New Media...
Those guys will do anything to get me to Las Vegas, won't they?
And now, I mean, I never see...
Yeah, I got a best produced...
Hall of Fame.
And ladies and gentlemen, the first winner of the podcasting Hall of Fame is Adam Curry.
Let me see what it says.
Dave Weiner will tweet about that.
That's bullshit.
No, they'll induct him at the same time.
Okay, so you and Weiner, and that's it.
Well, let's see.
Why start a Podcasting Hall of Fame?
We've been talking about creating a Podcasting Hall of Fame.
Because we can't get Adam Curry to come to give us a speech.
With this being the 10th Annual Podcast Awards.
10!
Holy crap!
And the co-location with NAB Show next year.
It just felt like the time had come to start canonizing and celebrating the icons and pioneers of the podcasting community in a formal setting.
What about the NAB show?
Look, I'm only coming if you comp my room and I want hookers and blow for my friend John.
Well, they have to comp your room, at least.
Eligible nominees would include podcasters, technology innovators, there's your curry and whiner right there, and others who have pioneered the medium.
Well, John, you're in.
No.
I mean, I've been around, but...
You're a pioneer of the medium.
Well, yeah.
25 years from now, when people look back, I'll look like one.
I've been doing this for a long time.
You wanted to say something about podcasting, apparently.
That's why I brought this up.
I think you took care of it.
Here's what I'm going to say.
I've noticed this because I've gotten calls.
We need to talk to you about podcasting.
There you go, because you're a podcasting pioneer.
You're the go-to guy.
Well, I'm the analyst go-to guy, maybe.
Well, that's good enough.
And this is showing up from the New York Times, Washington Post.
There's been a couple of articles written already.
Really?
And they, of course, leave you out, or they mention you.
There was one, I think, in, I don't know, Fast Company or something.
All these articles are very shallow.
You set them straight.
But no, there's more of them coming.
That's it.
They've triggered an avalanche because...
Everybody wants to know what the heck's going on about politics.
I'm going to put together, if I can do it, I'll maybe do it this afternoon.
I normally don't do free speeches.
I just don't like the bad policy.
But I may do one.
There was one I used to do for the big photo expo they had in Vegas.
I used to do this speech, I did it for about five years, called Film is Dead.
And this was done during the era when film wasn't dead.
And now I'm thinking, because I just wrote a column at PC Magazine, I don't know if it's up yet or not, but I wrote one about broadcasting is dead.
And I'm thinking that NAB would be a perfect place to discuss my thoughts on how broadcasting, old-fashioned terrestrial broadcasting, is dead.
Okay.
So I may actually be in Vegas.
If it's at NAB, I would be there, and I could probably go to this thing, too, if they're simultaneous.
Has NAB asked you to do a speech?
No, no.
There's open competition as we speak.
I know I can get a slot if I wanted one.
Well, yeah, you're John C. Dvorak, podcasting pioneer.
Hello!
How hard can that be?
They're like, stop!
Stop!
We got a call from the Morag Podcasting Pioneer!
What does he want?
He wants to speak!
For free?
Yeah!
Bring along.
Yeah.
But I think I could do the same speech like on a, you know, a semi-annual basis.
Broadcasting is dead while broadcasting is still alive.
And it would draw a bunch of broadcasters.
I get to meet all kinds of guys.
Yeah.
Well, we don't quite agree.
Well, what's your thesis, then?
Because I don't typically like the...
Okay, here's my thesis.
Can I just say what I don't like?
Okay.
I do not like the dot, dot, dot is dead.
Because, of course, it wasn't a living thing.
It's not like it has no pulse.
I'm glad you feel that way.
I don't like that meme.
That's fine.
I don't care what you think in this case, because something is dead is a draw.
Okay.
When it's not dead.
All right.
Wait a minute.
It's not dead?
How could it be dead?
I gotta go see this guy.
Who does he think he is?
Oh, it's the mouse guy.
Yeah, the mouse guy.
Mouse is dead.
I should do this.
The mouse is dead.
Well, it is true.
The mouse is dead.
It's all touchscreen.
Ultimately, you were right.
It took a while.
It took a long time, 30 years, but there you go.
Yeah.
Alright, so you want to give us a bit of your speech?
Well, here's the thing, and this is what I point out in the column, is the difference, you know, the internet has snuck up on these technologies, and it snuck up on newspapers, and a very, you know, the newspaper guys will say to you, honestly, I How come we didn't see this coming?
And I thought about this because they're the big prognosticators.
They're the visionaries.
They're the ones that are doing the news.
They should see this coming.
I mean, that's what you'd think.
And I used to harp about it.
These idiots didn't see it coming.
But the more I think about it, they didn't see it coming because it didn't just come.
It snuck up on them.
And I would say, I recall going to Tribune there in Chicago, Tribune Media, Yeah, that'd be Chicago.
And when I had my, you know, my big company was building websites for a million dollars for Reebok, back in the good old days, before Frontpage came out.
And they, so they had said, oh, no, we're, we, I would have a whole, the technology department was always, you know, in the meetings, like, oh, we don't need you, we can take care of this, management just wants us to talk to you.
But what they missed was Craigslist.
That's really what killed newspapers.
Well, I have the best...
Because that was the secret way they made money, was classifieds.
In the back door.
Yeah.
I had...
My best story was when you were at the meeting.
It was at the Chronicle with...
Phil Bernstein, and he said that Craig Newmar came marching in to talk to the Examiner Chronicle executives as he was developing Craigslist and as it was already available, offering it to them.
And the newspaper guys said, what do we need you in the mix for?
We know how to do classifieds.
Was I in this meeting?
Yes, you were.
I must have been high.
Yes, you were.
Thank you.
And he said, so we threw him out.
And he said, well, there you have it.
There you go.
But again, you know, they didn't, they weren't, these guys in the news business are not visionaries.
And often they, you know, something can be handed to them on a silver platter and they won't take it because they're arrogant.
Thank you.
That is the word.
They are truly arrogant.
Right.
Because they think they control the world and they control policy.
And then it snuck up on them and they don't.
And now they have to admit that no one was taking ads for their news.
The money wasn't coming from their excellent reporting, their Peabody butts.
No.
It was the money was from classifieds.
Which is indirectly related to their reporting, but when it comes down to people saying, what is the value of that news?
Nothing.
Well, anyway, so I continue this argument, and here's the difference between broadcasting and the newspapers and magazines.
With the newspapers and magazines going online, you end up with...
People taking their news differently.
They take it off of the screen.
They only look at a page or two.
They don't have a newspaper anymore to thumb through.
It's a different end result as they switch from newspapers to online newspapers.
I personally think it's, in many aspects, a poorer product.
No, I agree too.
I'm all in on that.
But there's nothing you can do about it.
With the broadcasters, it's the same.
Mm-hmm.
At the end of the day, you have a show, let's say one of the things on Netflix, and it's still on a big TV screen.
You have not changed your experience at the end of the day.
No, my show is in the beginning of the day.
And with the podcasting, it's...
Essentially, radio.
And I use the word because it's the only word that's appropriate.
It's radio that is transmitted over the internet instead of over an antenna.
But you have it, again, the product When people set it up correctly, it's a non-trivial part, but people would listen to it on their car.
That's what they used to do.
They used to listen to the radio on their car, now they listen to a podcast on their car.
So the end result is identical than it used to be.
That changes how the delivery mechanism, how everything...
I mean, it changes the model at the beginning of the formula.
And this?
Because we, little guys, can produce a radio show...
that sounds as good as anything produced on the radio itself.
And we're a little, and we have more freedom and a lot better results.
And we don't have time constraints that say, no, you got to say hard stop.
We don't have any of it.
We've got to take a break here.
We've got weather on the A2. Let's go to the Channel 4 weather copter and let's see what's going on there.
Do we have Phil or I in the sky up there?
Great!
Now that was traffic.
Let's take a look at the weather.
Weather is weather.
All right.
Yeah, well, we figured something else out.
We figured out the true model, and people can do Kickstarters and all this stuff, sure.
But that is a one-time deal, and it really doesn't hold the producer, the programmer of the product to account.
You know, yo, I got my money in my pocket, and I just got to make some stuff.
It's like Zay Frank.
That guy was the biggest disappointment to me.
Who?
Zay Frank.
Remember Zay Frank?
No, I don't know what you're talking about.
Zay Frank was this guy who did a video thing and he cut it up really tight and it was funny.
Really quick cuts.
Most of the time it was just his head talking and then he had a whole community and it was Zay Frank.
Z-E Frank.
Zay Frank.
When you see it you'll remember.
And he did a Kickstarter, which was hugely successful, because he wanted to do a whole year-long programming.
I put my money into the Kickstarter.
And then, you know, after like six months, he got an agent, he got other things to do.
Oh, I'm consulting here or there.
Hey, blow me, Zay Frank!
So that was disappointing.
Whereas, we live from paycheck to paycheck.
Pretty much.
Yeah, and if we suck, then we know.
But we produce a show that is not available...
In any way, in any medium, for people who appreciate this sort of analysis.
And there seems to be enough of them to keep this podcast going.
And we want to thank every one of them, including the people who give lesser amounts.
Every once in a while somebody sends a check for $5 or something like that.
And it's appreciated.
People are also $5 monthly.
We have some family.
I think it's the guy.
I'm not sure who came with this.
But I always marvel at this.
Somebody, like the way the bank sent out these automatic payments through the time payment plans to the show, there's somebody that does it by hand themselves, and they have a little check, it's a very small check, with the address and everything on it, and it goes into a special envelope that's got a couple of holes in it, you know, glassine holes that have the mailing address and the return address, which is also on the check, and it's the cutest, 20 bucks every, it comes when you're once a month, it is the cutest thing I've ever seen!
Cuter than the kittens in the newspaper?
It is so cute.
It's like, oh, look at this.
It's like a miniature bank check.
And, I don't know, I get amused by the easiest, the simplest of things.
Breaking news, John.
Breaking news on the Hill.
Obama vows more aggressive Ebola response.
Our government's attention to himself.
Our representatives are up there.
Grilling people.
Oh, so stupid.
What a waste of time.
Okay.
I had drinks last night with our ex-banker here in Austin.
You know, the New Yorker.
The ex-banker for Big Bank who's retired with his kids.
You know, the kids we talk about.
Right.
And it's always good to get his perspective on the financial markets.
And they are in turmoil right now.
And he said, oh my God, I can't believe one of the guys you hate is all on board with your theory.
I said, what was this?
He said, oh, did you not see the New York Times?
He said, no, I try to avoid that.
You know, it's like Ebola.
Tom Friedman...
Who I just think is one of the premier douches of our era.
He's also an agent.
In the New York Times, in this column, said, hey, am I crazy?
Or are the Saudi Arabians in...
What is the word I'm looking for?
Upon the command of the United States, purposely screwing Russia by increasing output and lowering the price of oil.
And I thought it was interesting that Tom Friedman made this point.
Yeah.
And it also appears to be pretty true that this is taking place.
But according to the banker, it has a much larger impact.
And really what is happening is Europe is so screwed...
And you're adding all of these market instabilities.
In fact, they call it, what did the BBC call it?
The perfect storm of the spread of Ebola, the dropping oil price, It screwed up Greece's refi of the refi of the refi of their bonds.
And ultimately he came down to the thing that is the biggest problem in Europe.
And this is what gave me pause to think about what is really going on there.
Because we talk a lot about the immigration and the multi-culti society.
According to the numbers and stuff that he studies, the EU unemployment, in particular the youth unemployment, which is up to, in some countries, 40-50%, Spain.
Yeah.
The problem is a lot of these unemployed are immigrants who have no skills to actually be employed in those countries where they have immigrated to.
And by the way, why should they?
Because the system in these countries and in the EU en masse gives them subsidy to not die and they get handouts.
And it is systematic.
And he says the only way...
Is inflation.
They need inflation.
Which I just take as true for what he said.
Well, they probably do, but I don't think that's going to solve anything.
Well, I said, why don't we just have Germany attack France, which is what you always say.
And he laughed and he said, yeah, war is good.
War would help.
I'm like, okay.
Yeah, it would probably.
They give this unemployable know-nothing something to do.
Something to do, yeah.
But it was interesting.
You said that they needed inflation.
You talked about this on the THM plug show.
Oh, I missed it.
I haven't heard it yet.
We looked at, you know, the oil's down to $80 from $100, and it's falling.
It's going to continue to fall, along with gold and silver, which is interesting in itself.
That should be the other way.
These things aren't going as normal as they're supposed to.
You know, it's supposed to be like a teeter-totter.
One goes up, the other goes down, but it's not that way.
And then the euro finally is heading south, and it's down to, I think, $1.26.
Maybe today it's lower.
And so we're getting, because I was predicting $1.25 a couple of years ago.
Woo!
The Euro.
Woo!
Finally!
Good work, everybody!
It may head to parity, which would be one-to-one.
Now I can go visit Europe again without feeling it ripped off.
Yeah.
Pay a 30% premium on everything in an area that prices are already too high.
You know, it's all looking good for us, as usual.
Here's a quick ditty on this Russian-Saudi thing.
Vice President of the Russian oil giant Rosneft has accused Saudi Arabia of manipulating the oil price for political reasons.
Mikhail Ilyontiev's remarks come and reports that Saudi officials have given the green light to lowering oil prices.
This is the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Country's OPEC is willing to accept prices as low as $80 a barrel for the next two years.
The NTF also described Ria's promise of big discounts as political manipulation, saying the kingdom itself is being manipulated.
Moscow needs high oil prices to prop up its economy, which has been hit by sanctions over Ukraine as well as a drop in domestic demand.
Russia favors an oil price of around $100 a barrel to cover Moscow's future spending.
Yeah, screw them.
That price is too high.
Oil should be $40.
It's traditionally been $25 to $40 a barrel and it's only recently in the last, I don't know, 5 to 10 years been jacked up to $100.
This thing, when it starts to fall like this and when you have Russia that they look at the gross receipts, what they end up doing and what other people do because it's now down to $80 is they pump more.
Right.
Which makes it worse.
To get the same amount of money, we've got to pump 20% more oil, so we pump more, and that forces the price lower.
I think it will go to $50.
I hope so.
My goodness, wouldn't that be great for us?
Yeah.
Oh, man.
It'll lower airfares, because most of the airplane ticket is because of fuel.
So we can travel a little bit without crossing an arm and a leg.
It'll improve everything.
Everything will improve substantially if the price of oil goes down to 50.
And it could.
Yeah.
Carrie did a solo little interview thingy, a little speech about how important he is.
Oh wait, I had a jingle.
We had a new jingle for him too.
Hold on.
Got all kinds of stuff going on here today.
Where is...
Yeah, this one.
This is a short version.
I think I kind of like it.
Watermelon head, Kerry.
There you go.
Nice.
Another kid.
This is...
I think Kerry thinks it's today, but I believe it's tomorrow in Italy.
Big meeting.
We got Ukraine.
We got Russia.
We got Germany.
But we're not at the table.
Yeah, but we're not at the table.
And, you know, this is the, it started with the three-way talks.
Well, yeah, because Kerry's a douche.
I can just hear Putin going, don't invite the douche.
No, we don't want the douche here.
There is an agreement reached in addition to the Minsk agreement.
The Minsk agreement is rarely discussed in this country, but this was the 12-point agreement.
It's actually the Minsk Protocol, to be specific.
The 12-point peace plan, or 15-point peace plan, that has really been working between Russia and Ukraine.
We're not copping to it.
Of course, we're losing out.
I think that Putin, once again, has done something very smart and is not...
Working out the way the Noodlemans and the Kegans wanted to work out for Chevron.
Putin's going to strike a deal with the EU, with Angela, who's in there.
They're two sides of the same coin.
And I think Kerry messed this one up.
Through further discussions between President Poroshenko and President Putin, where they've agreed on some timelines on some of these things.
And there will be a further meeting this Thursday in Milan, Italy, at which President Putin will be present together with President Hollande and Chancellor Merkel, possibly others.
And they will then be reviewing these requirements as well as the gas deal and other things.
So we'll wait to hear from that meeting and the results of that meeting, sort of where things stand at that point in time.
There you go.
There you go, Mr.
Kerry.
There's a guy running for, I think, the U.S. Senate in Delaware.
And he was promoting the idea.
He's a Republican.
I think Democrats are an incumbent.
And he was promoting the idea that Delaware is a poor state.
Mm-hmm.
And it has the biggest single reserves of either frackable or raw natural gas that this guy says we should go after so we can ship it straight to Europe.
And I saw that in Texas, I think there was three or four shows ago, I put it in the show notes somewhere, there was a request to reverse the terminal and ship A ship imported gas back out of the country.
Interesting enough.
The imported gas?
Yeah, gas that we'd previously imported, which I think is all...
It's just all spreadsheet stuff, because who's counting?
It's on paper.
Yeah, you've got some here and some there.
Finance.
Yeah, just take that piece and move it over there.
While we're on the topic of a little bit about Europe, I want to play this.
France, apparently, is a big deal, because I didn't...
You know, I always...
It's annoying when you go to Europe and you happen to be there on a Sunday or if you arrive on a Sunday.
Why?
Because everything's closed.
Well, there's a lot of stuff closed.
I mean, if you're in the big city, yeah, and you can get into the hotel.
But generally speaking, there's laws against being open, actually, in France.
You know, in the Netherlands, the stores are closed on Monday until noon or 1 p.m.
Why?
Culture.
It's probably some Protestant thing from 100 years ago that stuck.
Is that possible?
Well, they're going to change a little bit of this, and I'm not sure where it's going, but play this France and Sunday openings.
It is here with Business News today.
She's starting with a proposal that could well shake up the French working week.
Sounds very controversial, this to me, though.
They're actually going to go to work more than one hour a day.
Working on Sundays in France.
Exactly.
As we know from living here in Paris, Stuart, it can be really difficult to find a supermarket or a pharmacy, anything open on a Sunday.
Now, these changes have been proposed by the economy minister, Emmanuel Macron, as a way of showing that France is really trying to turn its economy around.
Remember, this is coming in the context of the French budget, which was submitted to Brussels yesterday, which is expected to be rejected or at least sent back because it doesn't comply with EU regulations.
All right.
Now, Macron says that deregulating some tightly controlled industries like pharmacies and allowing stores to stay open on Sundays would help boost economic growth by making it easier to do business and make the French working model more modern.
But it's a thorny issue here, as Josh Vardy explains.
It's been a controversial topic in France for decades.
Now, French Minister of the Economy, Emmanuel Macron, has promised to allow French shops to open on Sunday.
Contrary to existing ideas, French people already work on Sundays.
I say this so everyone just calms down a bit.
Almost 30% of all French people work on Sunday.
Some occasionally, some every week.
Currently, French businesses can only open five Sundays a year.
That limit will be raised to 12.
Commercial hotspots will also be earmarked for Sunday opening.
Places like tourist sites, airports, railway stations, or stadiums.
Yeah, get on the stick, France.
You're going down the tubes.
Now, there are two things that caught my attention about this little report.
One is that, by law, you can only be open to X number of Sundays.
I mean, this seems a bit much.
Well, this was back in the day when they were living high.
And then, yeah, but by law, you think if you had a business, you'd open it when you felt like it, you know?
John, these are socialist countries.
Right, I realize that, but the other one that struck, the other little note that struck me was that the budget, the French budget, it goes to Brussels and it's going to be rejected because it doesn't comply with EU regulations.
Yeah.
Isn't this a bit of a sovereignty loss?
Yeah.
Hello!
This is the travesty that is the European Union.
This is exactly what it is.
The loss of sovereignty through a monetary unit, which turns out, wow, how important is money when it really comes down to it?
Banking union, the political union, there's going to be all of these unions.
And it's just a bunch of technocrats, unelected people sitting around in two different offices because they couldn't even decide where they wanted to have the headquarters of the European Union.
Strasbourg or Brussels.
No, it's ridiculous.
And the French are just waking up to this.
I was reading, there's a guy, John Ward, who writes the Slog blog.
He's a Brit, retired, used to be in the advertising business.
And he now lives in France.
And he's writing about this stuff.
And you can't do anything without the appropriate paperwork.
Everything is run by, what do you call them?
Not a...
Notary publics.
Everything has to be notarized to be official.
Everything's strange and everyone's worried and the government is going to change the rule.
They're in irons there, to use a nautical term.
In irons.
They don't know what to do.
They truly don't.
I would say the same for the Netherlands, which we know intimately.
No one knows what to do or how to move.
There's no trust in anything.
It's ruined.
Ruined, I think, for 50 years before these countries come out of this crap.
Conservatively speaking.
Well, you can play the second part of the France short little bit.
It means more profit.
Because there are tourists, sometimes French people who come en masse at the weekend, and this will create jobs.
Under the proposal, Sunday workers would do it voluntarily and be paid double.
It's a policy employees at DIY shops have been asking for for years.
However, leaving Sundays as a sacred day is an idea deeply ingrained in French culture and opinions are divided.
I thought Sunday was a day of rest.
In England, everything is open.
Everyone works.
In Europe, France isn't as strict as Austria, which forbids any shop opening on Sunday.
Instead, it's moving slowly towards the UK or Swedish model, where shops can open when they want.
Well, they have to.
They have to harmonize all regulation, which is why you can't have weed legally anymore.
That's all going away in Amsterdam, because you can't have one state where it's different.
It all has to be the same.
We're getting that here, too.
We're getting a lot of that.
Well, we're also getting marijuana laws changed in a couple of states.
Well, true, true.
But we had the presidential proclamation, two important week, national school lunch week.
Why do we need that?
But more importantly, presidential proclamation, Blind Americans Equality Day.
And this was so much like that Vonnegut...
Story that we talked about, the Bergeron, Harold Bergeron, where in order to have Blind Americans Equality Day, we're going to poke out every American's eye.
Now at least we're equal.
We're equal with the blind citizens.
And I looked into this, and it used to be called something different.
It was White Cane Safety Day.
But you can't say that anymore, you see.
Because that's discriminatory, whatever it is.
It has to be equality day.
And I'm sorry.
I like the white cane safety day.
I like that too.
You're aware of the white canes and when you see somebody poking around with one, you drive carefully.
No, but now we have to have equal...
No, look, we all have some handicap, some version.
Not equal, but I like being aware of our citizens.
We do as much as we can for screen readers.
I mean, boy, this has been a thing.
JavaScript, by the way, has wrecked.
If you want to talk about equality for the blind, outlaw JavaScript.
It's very difficult for the screen readers to deal with that.
I agree.
I don't like JavaScript either, even though my son makes a living coding it now.
So, yeah, you know, equality, equality.
Yeah, I'm going to stick with White Cane Safety Day.
And don't pet my dog Safety Day.
Well, I have a clip here that I want you, which is kind of an equality situation.
This is the Kelly Atlas clip.
This is what happened in San Francisco.
Kelly Atlas is a...
Animal rights activists.
And there's a new term in here.
I want to see if you can find the term.
It's a new term.
I actually clipped this for the story itself and then only heard the term when making the clip into a clip.
Andrea?
Well, Liz, Ken, specifically the meat and chicken they were eating.
This happened at a restaurant in San Francisco.
But this group says other restaurants can expect the same.
Imagine you're eating dinner and this happens.
That's Kelly Atlas of Direct Action Everywhere speaking out on the plight of snow, her chicken.
The video was shot October 1st at Blue Stem Brasserie.
Atlas and others want equal rights for all animals, not just cats and dogs and other cute non-food species.
We're so enraged when we hear about somebody hurting a dog or a cat, but because of this speciesism in our minds, we don't think twice about a chicken being hurt or a pig or a cow.
Her chicken, Snow, was rescued from an egg ranch, Atlas says, when Snow's egg production peaked.
I see the suffering that she faced and I'm so happy that I took her out of there and I want the same for every animal.
The group, with its Bay Area hub in an Oakland apartment, says it's not their first action on behalf of animals and won't be their last, and that they're always looking for new restaurants to spread their message.
Is there a concern that while you're spreading your message and you're speaking out on behalf of Snow, that it is having the opposite effect on people, that instead of listening to you, they're simply going to be ticked off by you?
So, some people will?
I honestly did not hear one.
Speciesism.
Oh, I didn't hear the word at all.
Yeah, no.
Speciesism.
And this is a...
It's like sexism and racism and ageism.
This is speciesism.
Write that down.
Yeah, it's a classic.
Wow.
Instant classic.
Speciesism.
Yeah, it's hard to say.
Speciesism imagism.
Do you see what I mean?
That's what I meant.
It was hard to say.
Speciesism.
That was uncalled for, by the way.
That was, I'm sorry.
Speciesism.
Uncalled for.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speciesism.
Speciesism, yeah.
She said that when Kelly Atlas first came on, she says the chicken...
By the way, anyone who owns burrs or has poultry, chickens are the worst.
They're stupid, and they're annoying, and everything...
And, of course, she wants to rescue chickens.
Her chicken is Snow, the name of her chicken, some white chicken that laid eggs someplace or other, and she has this chicken that she's so glad she rescued.
Come on!
I see it differently.
We go to the market every Saturday, and Farmer Chris, who loves his chickens, and they all roam around.
He's very into...
The whole organic voodoo part of it with the moon and when it rains and the grass and how they operate.
Of course, the older they get, the bigger the eggs are.
And we love the big eggs, big gigantic eggs.
And at a certain point, it's time for the chicken to move on.
And we appreciate the animal for this, for the eggs, and then later for the chicken that we eat.
You can respect it.
The cycle works this way.
If you want to be vegan, vegetarian, fine.
That's okay.
But the cycle does work this way.
Stop interrupting my dinner.
She's going into restaurants and doing this?
Yeah, she's going into restaurants with a group holding signs.
And then she yells, it's like the a-holes that you run into on the New York subway.
I haven't been on that in a long time.
Well, it was gone for a while during the Giuliani period, but it's back, and so you might be on a subway train, and here comes a guy with his guitar or saxophone or just nothing.
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm not here to beg for money!
Oh yeah, I know what you're talking about, yeah.
Pay no attention to me!
And this is what she does, only she does it in a restaurant.
She's in there, she yells real loud, and she's, you know, I know what you're doing, you're eating chickens, and let me tell you about my chicken, Snow!
This chicken, you have no idea how loving she is, and all the rest of it.
And it's just like, get out!
We don't need this sort of aggravation.
There's really important things going on that are much more important than her stupid chicken.
Yeah, well, I think, you know, animal rights is, or rights, you know, and it's important.
I like respecting animals.
And I have to say, I think having dogs, I think cats are a different story because, you know, the cat chooses you and shows up and whatever.
But I find dogs, just having a dog is cruel by its very nature.
Having a dog on a leash and, oh yeah, come on, time to shit now.
Now!
Poop now!
I gotta go to work!
Dogs enjoy this life.
Yeah, the dog doesn't really care.
I think you're right.
Did you see James Risen on the NewsHour?
I missed it.
James Risen, I think he's...
You know, it's funny because I wanted to see that because I knew he was showing up somewhere.
Yeah, he has a new book out.
Right.
And he's a New York Times journalist, I believe.
Yeah, he's the guy that they want to throw in jail for life.
Yeah, well, they may just kill him for this.
I really appreciated this little ditty that they put on PBS, no less.
Next to the author of a new book on the costs in lives and treasure of the war on terror.
The war on terror, the global war on terror, has become essentially an endless war.
It started with a search for justice, and I think 13 years later, it's become a hunt for cash.
It's a stark conclusion James Risen has come to in the decade-plus in September 11.
The veteran New York Times investigative journalist is best known for the explosive revelation that the Bush administration ordered the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on Americans without warrants after 9-11.
But now he has compiled examples of what he sees as that hunt for cash, greed for power, and lives wrecked His new book, The No Agenda Show, is what it should be.
Book, Pay Any Price.
The title of the book comes from John F. Kennedy's inaugural address when he said, let every nation know that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
Your argument is that any price has been way too high a price.
How so?
Well, we have had 13 years of war now.
A lot of people have gotten into the war on terror in order to make a lot of money or to gain status or power, both in the government and outside the government.
Yeah, this is not a good book to have flapping around.
Yeah.
I was impressed.
Okay, I'll definitely read your book.
And then he brought in a term which I think is weak, but I understand why he chose it.
And again, they go back and find some historical footage, which I find an interesting choice for the program.
Maybe to somehow discredit him as an old thinker or something, I'm not sure.
We built a huge infrastructure for what we call homeland security here at home.
And so we've had an enormous, just hundreds of billions of dollars poured into national security, homeland security, and what I call the new homeland security industrial complex.
That is a play on Dwight Eisenhower's famous phrase, the military-industrial complex, coined amid the Cold War.
Ryzen describes a new apparatus for a new war built in parallel and almost entirely in secret, but with a staggering price tag.
There are estimates that the entire war on terror, if you count Iraq, Afghanistan, all of the other things we've done, both domestically and internationally, have cost about $4 trillion.
And that is an enormous transfer of wealth into a new sector of the economy, which is security.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And as we say...
That's how we roll.
Yeah, that's right.
That's how we roll.
That's correct.
That's why we can't just remove it, because it is, as he correctly points out, a big sector of the economy.
And along with...
It seems very obvious to me that the things that are happening right now, particularly with ISIS, ISIL, is two-part.
One, you never really want to change a team in time of war.
So when are you going to go vote?
Why would you want to upset everything and have Republicans come in and ruin everything?
That's no good.
We're at war.
But also, long-term, long-term signaling to the military-industrial complex that All is well, all is good.
We will continue to have war.
It's just going to be a war without boots on the ground, at least not visible boots.
It'll be Academy, Blackwater, whatever you want to call them, Z. It'll be some mercenary army.
And this is the president going back to a Starfleet command setting there.
He was sitting in front of flags that weren't even American.
It was a very strange...
Yeah, I saw those flags.
I think they're like regimental flags.
Yeah, strange.
Strange, I would say.
And he made it very clear.
Long term.
At this stage, some 60 nations are contributing to this coalition.
If you can name all 60, I'll give you $1,000.
I can't.
Including more than 20 coalition members who are represented here.
And I doubt that there are 60.
No, it's a lie.
Today, among them Iraq.
Arab nations.
Arab nations.
Hey, if you're an Arab nation, raise your hand without talking.
Thank you.
Turkey.
NATO allies and partners from around the world.
So this is an operation that involves the world against ISIL. It's the world.
Hold on.
You got more on that?
Yeah.
I want to get to the long-term bit.
30 seconds.
So far we've seen some important successes.
Stopping ISIL's advance on Erbil, saving many civilians from massacres on Mount Sinjar, retaking the Mosul Dam, destroying ISIL targets and fighters across Iraq and Syria.
Obviously, at this point, we're also focused on the fighting that is taking place in Iraq's Anbar Province, and we're deeply concerned about the situation in and around the Syrian town of Kobani, which underscores the threat that ISIL poses in both Iraq and Syria.
And coalition airstrikes will continue in both these areas.
One of the things that has emerged from the discussions, both before I came and during my visit here, is that this is going to be a long-term campaign.
There are not quick fixes involved.
We're still in the early stages.
As with any military effort, there will be days of progress and there are going to be periods of setback.
But our coalition is united behind this long-term effort.
Long term, long term.
Now tell me how that jives with this clip.
You know, because he mentioned Turkey just way up at the top of the thing.
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
Tell me how it jives with this clip.
Uh-huh.
This issue of military bases in Turkey is an issue that continues to be discussed between American officials and Turkish officials.
So at this point there is no formal agreement on that front?
No.
Well, I think that might be obvious from the public comments from both sides.
But this is something that we continue to discuss with us.
The Obama administration's pressured Turkey to take a more active role against ISIS, while Turkey has requested a buffer zone along its border with Syria.
The dispute comes as Turkish warplanes have bombed one of the main groups fighting ISIS, the Kurdish Workers' Party, or PKK. The Turkish military says it acted in retaliation to PKK attacks.
Yeah, this is very interesting.
This is another one of these complete dichotomies that they have no way of explaining.
And of course, Turkey has been killing and fighting the PKK in Kurdistan, northern Iraq, for many, many years.
And by killing them off, this is not really helping with the overall mission.
And there was, the Turkish government said, well, you know, we're not really going to do too much.
After Kerry had said, maybe the president had said, oh, Turkey's on board, everybody.
And Kerry got this question.
They only took two questions.
This was the last question from, I think, the woman from Bloomberg, which ties right into Turkey's participation or not.
And they're NATO, are they not?
Turkey's NATO. Yeah, these guys, they're not on board with the program.
Mr.
Secretary, the National Security Advisor on Sunday said that Turkey agreed...
That was Susan Rice.
She was talking about that, yeah.
...to allow coalition use of its military bases, and yet Turkish officials have denied that such an agreement was reached.
And also, Turkish military has begun striking PKK targets, which one could argue weakens the joint fight against Daesh.
So...
Can you clarify what understanding you have with the Turks in regards to their role in the fight against Daesh, and what is their policy on this, and how tangible is it?
And Kerry was, the whole time, he's not happy with this question.
For brevity, I cut out a lot of his pauses, his dramatic bullcrap, and went straight to this question.
Turkey is a very valued member of the A coalition and has joined the coalition, is doing things in the coalition, is committed to things in the coalition.
And as far as I know, there is no discrepancy with respect to what is going on.
General Allen was there.
He had long meetings with him.
The meetings, in his judgment, helped to move the ball forward.
So I really think that Turkey obviously has a very important role to play in this process going forward.
And I'm confident that that is going to be further defined by Turkey itself on their timetable as we go forward in assigning and undertaking responsibilities.
How much waffling can you do?
And his tongue is flipping out the whole time.
I'm lying.
I'm lying.
Liar!
Liar!
You know what they're going to do, don't you?
They're activating Fethullah Gulen.
That's what's happening.
That's the only thing they can do.
That would put the Turks back in Istanbul fighting riots.
That's what they've got to do.
They've got to start causing a ruckus up there.
And I don't understand.
Why do you think Erdogan is doing this, John?
Why is he not on board?
Why is he not participating in What do you think?
I mean, I really am racking my brain about this.
He seems to be supporting ISIS. And I think it's very simple.
Let's just take a look at the basics.
Okay.
He is a Islamist.
Yes.
He would have been hung by the neck until dead under older circumstances in Turkey before the EU came around and said you couldn't do this because it's a human rights violation.
And so they cowed Turkey because Turkey wants to be in the EU desperately.
Mm-hmm.
And so they left this guy in, and he got rid of all the generals, killed most of them, and just got changed to the military completely.
So he's now very Islamist, and he's on board with them.
I mean, he's an Islamist, and he hopes that at some point he can co-opt the ISIL-ISIS group and be the big leader of the next giant caliphate.
I really think it's just he's with them.
He's not against them.
That's why he killed these guys attacking them.
How does that fit in with his hatred for Assad?
In Syria.
Assad is not an Islamist.
He's one of these Westerners.
Right.
Who hangs out with Westerners, dresses like one, and all the rest.
He's liable to get rid of that guy.
Hmm.
I mean, we have to remember that Erdogan is an Islamist.
He would be dead under older circumstances because it was illegal to have a non...
You know, he's not a secularist, as far as he's concerned.
Why don't we go into Turkey and give them some freedom?
I think we tried that during the last round of riots in Turkey, where they had over the park, if you remember, and it was all hell breaking loose, and we had the gulenists behind a lot of that, but that's essentially us.
Yeah, sure, but the gulenists are kind of failing.
Erdogan just kicked out everyone who was a gulenist.
That's because Erdogan is a sharp operator.
Yeah.
And he knows the ropes, and he knows that all his support comes from the hicks in the countryside that voted him in, who are all a bunch of very stringent Muslims.
They're very fundamental.
And I think he's all in with the ISIS guys.
He's probably supplying it with stuff.
That's why he shot all these guys.
Oh, it's because of some previous beef.
That's why we interrupted this attack on the ISIL army.
I think it's just that simple.
We don't know what to do about it.
I don't understand.
What is Turkey?
I guess maybe it's...
Turkey being a NATO member is the problem.
You can't really...
NATO members don't typically attack each other.
Although, I'm sure we could figure out a way to make it work.
I don't know how.
It's, oh man, okay, it's a real problem.
It really is.
No, Turkey is a fly in the ointment.
Yeah, we already tried to screw their economy.
That didn't really work.
Whoever's running the show on this is just not doing a good job.
That's Kerry in the State Department.
It was back with Hillary.
You're right.
Yeah, it was better with Hillary.
Here's the latest from ISIL. Very funny, and I really implore everyone to watch this video.
Link in the show notes, of course.
This is from CNN. On the new ISIL training camp video, Have you seen this thing?
No.
It is beautiful.
And this is very meta when you listen to the report.
You get some retired guy to comment on this video, a training video of ISIL. Recruits crawl through simulated barbed wire with trainers firing at them.
They line up to have their torsos kicked.
The last man gets the honor of a knee to the body.
A fighter drags a cloth mat with a rope fastened to it to rescue a wounded comrade.
As they're pulled away, they're fired at.
This is the stupidest thing.
It looks like MASH with all these tents and everything, like everyone's in a big meeting in the middle.
But the tents all have U.S. stenciled on them.
These are American Army tents that they're in, which makes a little sense when you hear the rest of this conversation in this report.
This is the latest ISIS propaganda, a video called Blood of Jihad, showing fighters in basic training.
Is this anything that they would use in Anbar right now, anywhere on the battlefield?
Almost never.
This type of hand-to-hand fighting, with automatic weapons, mortars, artillery, Vehicles almost never really occurs.
Throughout this entire video, what you have is a stage set of exercises.
You look at them, and this really isn't a training exercise.
It's a video exercise.
It's propaganda.
Exactly.
This is the meta part.
It's only propaganda when the mainstream media is showing it to scare you.
So, yes, it's propaganda, and you, CNN, are propagandizing it.
This is so obvious to me.
They're not reporting.
You don't need to report on this by showing it.
If it's propaganda, you are propagandizing it.
ISIS has captured most of Anbar province and come within just a few miles of Baghdad International Airport.
What tactics have they deployed?
Iraq combat veteran Douglas Olivant says on the battlefield, ISIS has previously used what he calls a react to contact drill.
Now listen to this.
That means in a firefight, they make initial contact against their enemy using the smallest number of fighters possible, maybe three or four.
And then put down fire, because those three or four guys can then keep 20, 30 of the enemy focused on them.
Then, Olivant says, a larger group of ISIS fighters comes around, flanking the enemy on one side, finds a weakness, attacks it.
This is something that the U.S. Army Ranger Regiment has really practiced for years.
It's been their hallmark.
Okay, so we have U.S. tents, and we have tactics practiced by U.S. Army for years.
What are you telling me?
What am I supposed to understand from this?
Yeah.
You're supposed to understand, if you really paid attention, that this is a U.S. operation.
Yes, it is.
It's just...
it's just disgusting Hegel went out there begging for some money to politicize all of this he had some luncheon and of course you know ISIS is so frightening and ISIL what is the whole point what is part of what we need to do we need the sequestration we need to turn back the clock we need more money now I want to ask something about before you say this sequestration which is the stoppage of it didn't really cut any budgets
It cut increases in budgets.
Yes, correct.
And we always seem to forget that.
The military budget was X, and they wanted it to be X plus 20.
And sequestration didn't even cut the whole plus 20.
It made it to plus 10.
It's funny how the media is just not really reminding us of that simple fact.
And Hegel doesn't do it either.
Our soldiers deserve better than that.
Yes.
They deserve a stable and predictable budget that gives them and their families...
Why?
They're not going into combat anymore.
But despite temporary relief, sequestration remains the law of the land.
If Congress does not act, It will return.
Read Republicans suck.
In 2016.
Stunting and reversing the Army's readiness.
Just as we've begun to recover.
We are so not ready.
We just don't have enough military stuff going on, John.
I think we need to get more money in there.
We just don't have...
We're not ready.
And requiring even more dramatic reductions in force structure.
That would be horrible.
The military as a whole will face a similar readiness crisis if Congress does not accept the program cuts and compensation reforms we have proposed in our budgets.
Okay.
Most of his entire speech is all about, we just need money, we need money, we need more money, we need more money.
And then, of course, we need to sell this still to the press corps, who are...
Josh Earnest...
You know, before you go on with that, just a thought comes to mind.
This guy, I mean, Obama's the one who wanted to cut the budget, or cut the increases in the budget.
Well, sequestration, was that not the president's idea?
Yeah, it was.
Now, this guy, as far as I know, works for the president.
Hegel, yeah.
Yeah.
Why doesn't the president...
This is very fishy to me.
Why doesn't the president just tell him to shut up or take a walk?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Because I think Hegel is a good guy at heart.
He's dumb.
We know he's dumb.
He's dumb in the political sense.
He's not politically savvy.
I mean, his whole confirmation hearing had to do over and say, oh, I'm sorry, we love Israel, whatever his problem was.
We screwed that up.
And everyone was like, oh, it was a mistake.
Don't worry about it.
He's fixing it.
It's all good.
We don't talk about that anymore.
Now we have Josh Earnest, which is just a funny name.
I have to always chuckle when I hear Josh Earnest.
Yeah.
Josh is making jokes, and Earnest is in all sincerity.
And he has the perfect way to explain, again, what we're not seeing.
All we're seeing is stock footage of jets flying.
We're seeing stock footage of rockets being fired from a ship.
And then we see some grainy black and white footage of a truck.
And then the flash of light in the truck is gone.
And we've done 700 sorties or whatever the number is.
We're really seeing nothing.
But he has the proof.
But there doesn't seem to be a lot of evidence on the battlefield.
That ISIL is being degraded or destroyed.
What evidence can you provide that the campaign is effective?
Well, what I do is I refer you to the Department of Defense.
They're conducting battle damage assessments of the airstrikes, and they have periodically conducted briefings to talk about the results of those airstrikes.
I mean, there's Sweden and Rambar province.
They're miles from the Baghdad airport, not to mention what's going on in Syria.
Aside from the individual number of airstrikes, you know, we're dazzled by 700 sorties and things like that, numbers like that.
But what hard evidence can you provide that people can see that the effect of the strategies have happened?
Well, again, for a tactical assessment of the airstrikes, I'd refer you to the Department of Defense.
They're the ones that, again, they've conducted briefings a couple of times with maps, walking through exactly what the targets were and what impact the strikes had.
John, they have maps.
Wow.
Maps to show you exactly what they've done.
Maps.
Uh-huh.
You better believe it now.
Yeah.
Well, I have a clip here that I want to talk about for a second.
And earlier you talked about there's no way of explaining the discrepancies.
There's a lot of no ways of explaining certain things.
But this discovery of chemical weapons in Iraq is the most interesting of no way of explaining because it just brings up a bunch of...
And again, there's probably political motivations here because it looks like something they're blaming on Bush.
Oh, why not?
Because earlier, you know, we talked about something and they blamed it on Bush.
Because, you know, you've got to try to get that meme back.
That's not going to work because, you know, Bush is...
But I'm just trying to understand.
It's hilarious.
Was it not the funniest thing to say at dinner parties with obots that I've had...
Wow, Bush and Cheney, they took us in on false pretensions.
There were no weapons of mass destruction.
Oh, crap!
And now they're actually trying to say there were weapons of mass destruction and it's Bush's fault we didn't get them?
Well, let's listen to the two clips.
A new report says the Bush administration concealed the discovery of chemical weapons in Iraq that had been developed with U.S. support in the 1980s.
That's hilarious!
I know.
We need a laugh track for this one.
They were praying.
Oh, God, can we find some proof of something?
We need proof.
Anything.
No, now they concealed it.
Oh, hey, we got the proof.
We just didn't want to show it.
We'll take all the...
We'll go to International Criminal Court.
Wow, Amy.
...and then denied medical care to the wounded American soldiers involved.
According to the New York Times, U.S. troops secretly reported finding over 5,000 chemical warheads, shells, or bombs after the 2003 invasion.
All the chemical weaponry predated 1991, just a year after Saddam Hussein stopped being a U.S. ally and recipient of the Western military aid that helped build his arsenal.
At least 17 American and six Iraqi troops were wounded in their handling of the munitions in six separate incidents between 2004 and 11.
The weapon's existence was kept from the troops entering those areas, and officials denied the victims the care they needed.
One soldier talked about his health problems as a result of chemical exposure.
I still have residual blisters every now and then.
I still have a lot of trouble breathing.
I have a constant headache.
I haven't not had a headache since 2008.
The only thing I can think of is politics.
It doesn't jive with the story they wanted.
Wow, this is Agent Orange all over again.
Well, there's a couple of elements here that are unique.
One, all the weapons existed before 1991, and when they showed the stockpile, which could have been fake, but they showed a stockpile, they were obviously American-made.
Well, yeah, we sold them.
That's what she said in the report, kind of.
We sold them to them.
But he didn't say it.
This angers me for a number of reasons.
Of course, I truly believe, and there's depleted uranium, all kinds of things that have gone on.
We have Sergeant Fred, who's one of our biggest supporters, producers, who has all kinds of medical issues still from Agent Orange.
And there's no help.
No help.
And now they're pinning this on Bush, trying to turn the VA scandal around now?
This is disgusting.
I'm not sure what they're trying to do, but play part two is a very short clip.
In addition to raising new questions about the neglect of soldiers' health and the Bush administration's false pretext for going to war, the disclosure also carries implications for Iraq's ongoing crisis.
The Islamic State now controls most of the territory where the chemical weapons were found.
Nice double hit there.
We got a hit on Bush, which should turn some voters.
And then we have a hit on, oh, yeah, we found these, I guess, around 2008 or sooner, because that's what we're looking for, to get our own chemical weapons out of Iraq.
We found them and left them there for ISIS and ISIL. Yeah?
Really?
Does any of this story make any sense whatsoever?
This story is completely bull crap in every which way.
And I would just like to see some actual video footage of what is really going on.
And they don't have it.
This is like Libya.
We never saw any of the airstrikes on Libya.
I'm sure it happened.
Oh, and don't forget the handing out the Viagra so everybody could rape women.
My favorite part of that Libyan story.
What?
There's this fabulous story from the Netherlands, and this is so mind-bogglingly Dutch.
There's this motorcycle club called No Surrender.
And motorcycle clubs slash gangs have always had a very interesting position in Dutch society.
We had the Hells Angels when I was growing up, and we had guys like Big Willem, and I forget all their names.
But there was some kind of respect there.
From the public, because these guys were...
Mickey said it, we were talking about coffee this morning.
They're kind of like the police force of the underground.
So kind of like, in a way like the New York Guardian Angels, but not really.
Because they never really deal in the drugs directly, or in the killing, or anything.
But they're always somehow involved.
And a lot of these guys started this motorcycle club called No Surrender in 2013.
And the Dutch also, there is a motorcycle culture.
There's a lot of reasons why this is happening.
But in this, one of the co-founders was Willem Holleder.
He was, this may mean nothing to anybody but the Dutch, he was the guy who was convicted of kidnapping Freddy Heineken, the guy, the Heineken guy.
We remember, was it maybe 20 years ago?
No.
Well, Freddie Heineken was kidnapped, and to this day, how the ransom was paid and who was involved is very, very sketchy.
So this guy was involved, and I think the big villain guy, whatever.
And they have now received from the Interior Minister, and he came out and said an approval, because they were saying, you know what, we're going to go to Syria, and we're going to go fight against ISIS. And the interior minister said, well, you know, as long as they're not fighting against us, then it's perfectly legal and they have my blessing.
I'm paraphrasing.
And now this motorcycle gang has become like the hero of the Dutch because they're going to go over there and kick some ISIS ass.
It's too bizarre for words.
That's nuts.
How are they managing to do this?
Well, they're getting on their bikes and they're driving over there.
With rifles on their bikes?
Yeah, no, just a knife and a compass.
I don't know what they're doing.
And the Dodger, I'm looking at the tweets, and that's why I asked Miki, have you seen anything on Facebook about this?
Which she hadn't, but you have to kind of know the No Surrender name.
But even the name, No Surrender.
The Dutch has an army.
We have a couple of F-16s that are doing something.
Never really mentioned.
By the way, they keep forgetting to put them on the list of the coalition.
It stops at M. The Netherlands is never on the list.
So now we have the new heroes.
This is bizarre.
This is truly bizarre.
It's just to keep that story in the news.
It's...
Well, it's working.
Yeah, all this stuff.
Everything works.
And then I have a thing here that just blew me away, a native advertising bit.
Then you tell me if you can figure out, this is a whole series on CNN, what is the native ad for?
And it's more than just product placement, it truly is a native ad.
And all week CNN is presenting a special series, Roots, Our Journey Home.
CNN journalists have traveled across continents finding hidden details of our family histories.
My own journey took me to Israel, to Poland, and to my hometown of Buffalo, New York.
Here's a preview.
I feel like I've been robbed of an experience of having grandparents.
Six million Jews were killed during the Holocaust, and I saw the documentation there, place of extermination, if you will, whatever it was called, Auschwitz, that it really hit me, and I knew that's where I wanted to go.
So what is the native ad?
Who is this an ad for?
Well, it would either be for one of those websites that you can trace your heritage to, which has got a lot of money, or Israel.
Well, you had it right the first time.
Ancestry.com.
Yeah, that's it.
That's the one.
Which is the Mormons.
It's huge, the Mormons.
And they have this new product called AncestryDNA.com.
Where you do a DNA test.
This is their new product, $99.
And they're sponsoring this entire show.
So you see them do a little DNA test, and they figure out who they are, and they go trace their roots.
And this is an ongoing series on CNN, covered up as content.
Yeah, well, that's what you do.
Nobody can afford content anymore.
No, that's not what we do.
No, no, we don't do that, of course.
No, we don't do that.
I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on your agenda In the morning We not only don't do it, but we expose it when we find it.
Nobody else does that, by the way.
No, of course not.
And in return, we do get support from our listener producers who are the ones that keep the show going.
I want to thank them.
All the over $50 donors are in.
And Julie McNeil leads the pack from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, $100.
And she's got a birthday coming up.
What did she say?
I'd say my husband hit me in the mouth by introducing me to your podcast.
And he has had...
Help from his friends.
Okay.
Anyway, so you've got a birthday coming up.
Anonymous and $90.12 from Rome, Texas.
Or something here's a long note.
Or is there something about this douchebag?
Long note.
I want to reiterate that just for time consideration, we cannot read and play jingles for every single note.
We read everything that comes in, but can't do it for this part of the show.
It takes up too much time.
But we do highlight stuff from time to time when possible, and we do birthdays, and we do, you know, when appropriate douchebag call-outs.
Yeah, we do kick up with some quotes from certain people that say certain things.
I've got one coming up.
Michelle Cartmel in West Bank, BC, British Columbia, 6969, dude.
It's a dyslexic sack of six, she says, which is funny.
Yeah.
Peter Henderson also came up with 6969 from Squamish, BC. Nice.
And so we have two people.
This is interesting.
This is a kind of random number theory at work.
Two people, both from British Columbia, both donating 6969.
Nobody else donating 6969.
Nobody else from BC. That is just too unusual.
I bet you they're having sex.
Peter and Michelle?
Yeah.
West Bank.
I'm not sure where West Bank is.
I know where Squamish is.
Hop, skipping a jump from Squamish.
I thought maybe they're probably meeting in Spasm.
Charlotte Mitchell in Wenatchee, Washington.
$69.
Charlotte Lent in...
Suzanne.
Suzanne Lent.
I'm sorry.
What am I thinking?
Suzanne Lent in Meadville, Pennsylvania.
She's got the note that I have to read.
Aha.
She sent this in as a check.
And by the way, I forgot to mention, when you send in a check with a handwritten note, high chances we read that because that is preserving handwriting and saving us money and fees.
And she has a readable longhand.
Did she send pictures?
No.
But she sent a great note because it's disconcerting.
This note is a little bit disconcerting on one hand, but then kind of uplifting on the other hand.
But we have to read this note.
Just a little contribution to help us keep the best podcast in the universe going.
At first, I was put off by many aspects of the podcast, even the artwork of all things.
Wow.
The artwork is great.
The podcast is outstanding.
And I feel reassured after listening.
My vague suspicions are put into words in a very thorough and entertaining way.
In other words, her suspicions about the news.
No one else does what you do.
Sending a mini beast your way, a 6660.
Yours truly, Suzanne Lent.
Well, thank you, Suzanne.
That's very nice.
And we're happy that you are now healthy.
I just found it interesting that someone would see, and I think a lot of people, they get put off by our format, which is the only format we can use to do what we do.
What do you mean by format?
Under format, I understand how we start off, we do weather and traffic on the 8s, then we hit the hard stop for the break.
Right.
If you're used to listening to the public broadcasting approach, well, you talk like this in a soundproof booth.
Right.
You might find this, again, we have a more lively, high-energy approach.
We can do this.
We can do...
And now it's time to thank some of the people who are supporting us here at Public Radio.
Public Radio, it truly is community radio.
John, do we have some pledges coming in?
Michael Jed in North Lakes, Queensland, Australia, with $60.66.
Wow, is this a matching donation?
This is very, very nice, and we will make sure we send you a tote bag and, and...
And in the morning coffee mug.
Thank you so much for supporting your local NPR station.
And in the morning to everyone.
In the morning to all.
Yes, indeed, John.
Oh, wait a minute.
It's time to take a break and thank everyone over there at Carbonite.
Go to carbonite.com slash radio.
I heard this the other day.
That's illegal.
On the PBS, right?
NPR. That's illegal.
They're not allowed to do that.
Right.
They're not allowed to.
That's a call-out.
That's a call-out.
And they're doing it.
And they're doing it.
Just one hit.
And they continue with the segment.
Yeah.
It's commercial radio, people.
They do it here, too.
And then they want your money.
They're compromised.
All these media outlets are compromised.
We're not compromised because we have people like...
Michael Wagner in...
Michael Wagner.
What does Michael have to say, John?
He says, good to be here, bro.
Hold on a second.
It'll also take forever if we read in that stupid pattern that they use.
Trent, what is it?
Wabiss, Wabiss.
Dr.
Fauci, thanks so much, as always, for joining us.
Good to be here, bro.
55-95 from Elwood, Victoria, Australia.
Also, Russell Girton in Beaumaris, Victoria, Australia.
55-55.
Keith Van Dyke in Owen, South Australia.
We've got Australia, Australia, Australia.
55-33.
We all...
I did it again.
I heard it.
Keith Fondack, I just did.
Keen Dills in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Double nickels on the dime.
Roderick Lennart in Charlotte, North Carolina.
It's very strange the way these are lining up.
Double nickels on the dime.
Michael Dwyer in Bryan, Texas.
He comes in with a check monthly.
Uh...
$55.10.
Peter Hawk in Annerley, Queensland, Australia, $51.
Sir Kevin Payne in Richmond, Virginia, $50.69.
Christopher Dolan in Berlin, Connecticut, that would be $50.69.
Now the rest of these, I'm sorry, that would be $50, and the rest of these are $50 each.
Chad Inman in Los Angeles, California.
Amitav Hajra.
I don't know.
What do you think?
Hajra seems right.
Hajra.
Hajra.
Amitav Hajra.
Amitav Hajra in Daleville, Virginia.
A lot of Virginia donations today, which is nice.
Josh McDonald in Mount Waverly, Victoria, Australia.
A lot of Australians, which is really great.
And John Camp in Antlers, Oklahoma.
Comes in commonly once a month.
Jack Miller, Austin, Texas.
Your buddy down the street.
Started listening in June on Brother James hitting me in the mouth in the $5 monthly plan.
Good karma came my way this month and I wanted to share it.
Thank you.
Patrick Thomas in Petworth, West Sussex, UK. Chris Slowensky, good old Chris, who I believe is a knight.
Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada.
Pretty sure, yep.
Bruce Schwalm, 50 parts unknown.
Mike Westerfield, we know where he's from.
Sir Mike Westerfield.
Patricia Worthington, 50 from Miami, Florida.
Brandon Savoy.
Savoy.
And finally, our buddy up the street here, Sir Alan Bean in Oakland, who sends a check-in every month on time.
And I would like to say that today we have karma at the end.
This is for all the $5 a monthers, the five a show, the four a show, the two or whatever.
The 11-11s, the 33s.
It really makes a difference.
It really makes a difference.
Being on a monthly subscription.
And even if you donate regularly, a monthly subscription service for as long as they keep it going because they do shut those off mysteriously.
Yes, you have to check your subscription once in a while because PayPal just will stop it.
That's one of the reasons we kind of recommend if you can get a time payment plan through your local bank and they just send a check out automatically every cycle that you would desire.
And we've been promoting this quite a bit and we've gotten a good amount of checks now.
And I think we're one of the few people who really push the checks idea.
And of course, I think it only really works well in the United States of Gitmo Nation.
But I got to tell you, I live by the value-for-value model, whether it's Karmic or whatever it is.
And somehow, it feels really good.
Like I have the Synergy Project software we talked about, so you can use your mouse across multiple computer screens.
I use the Audio Rack Suite software, which is also open-sourced, done by a couple of radio guys who are also programmers.
And, you know, you send money, and I think they're sometimes surprised.
Like, no, man, this is how we live.
This is how I live.
Could this work in a real economy somehow?
I don't think that would really work.
Would it value for value still have to have price setting?
Does it only work in creative industries?
It used to work in public broadcasting.
Right, until they became corrupted.
In the early days of public broadcasting, where they were mostly educational shows and less promotional shows, it was all donations from the local citizenry, and they would watch television and watch these very educational shows and broadcasts, and they would support it.
And then the foundations got their nose under the tent and said, you know, we can help you with a bigger bounce of money.
And they're corrupt, so that was a corrupting influence.
And then those gravitated towards advertising.
Right.
And then the government got involved.
And what are you going to do about the government getting involved in your business by them financing it with the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and all these other government-supported NGOs?
By the way, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, they're the commercial arm.
They buy and pay for the commercial programs which are made by producers who are commercial producers, like PRI and even PRX, trying to push their products onto public broadcasting.
And then they turn around and gift it somehow to the local stations.
You know, there's a commercial entity in there, and that commercial entity is selling the ads with traditional radio ad salespeople.
It's a very corrupt system.
About five years ago on this show, we had one of those recordings that was done by that guerrilla group that would take a traditional ad salesperson that was working for NPR and had them at lunch kind of blowing the lid off this whole thing.
Wasn't that the guy who does those videos?
Yeah, the guy who does the videos, him and his girlfriend, they go around and they go to some place and then they say, yeah, my girlfriend's pregnant, we want to get something free from the government, can you help us?
Yeah, just lie on the forums.
Right.
So anyway, here's the big secret to what we do.
For podcasters, whatever you're interested in, even music, I think this is very appropriate for creative businesses.
Don't limit yourself.
Ask people what they felt or feel your product or service is worth.
You will be surprised.
And it's very humbling when someone says, that's about worth 50 cents.
Hmm.
I'm not really creating that much value.
Now am I? That's all.
That is mystery solved, everybody.
Mystery solved.
Turns out, if you deliver a product that is outstanding and people want, they will give you value in return.
There's that.
Now, I don't have to go to the podcast conference.
That's it.
That's how you do it.
Everybody got it?
Alright.
Thank you all very much for your support of this program.
Best podcast in the universe for Sunday's show.
We will need your support once again.
We're counting on you.
And as promised, we get that big karma with a couple of extra Adam bits thrown in.
If there's a need for a rescue mission, when the world is threatened, the world needs help, it calls on America.
And that's the story.
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Bye.
Bye.
Yay!
All right, everybody.
And today we congratulate Isaac Chase, who celebrated yesterday turning 33, the magic number, 6.
Stephen Olker, or Stephan, I think it's Stephen Olker, says happy birthday to his girlfriend Katie, celebrating tomorrow, or Sunday.
No, wait a minute, it says the 18th, that might be Sunday.
On the 18th.
Julie McNeil, happy birthday to her husband on the 19th.
And Todd Moss, who will not hear this because he's on vacation.
Well, happy birthday to you two, my friend.
That's the story.
From all your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe.
It's your birthday, yeah!
Eric's really got to lay off the sauce, man.
We've got to get this stuff to show up.
I'm just saying.
Just saying.
Hey, we have two nightings for today.
Which is always lovely that we have those.
Let me grab the...
Did you leave your blade with your paperwork, or do you have it here?
I have the blade.
I don't have the paperwork.
Ah, there it is.
Good.
I got my blade here.
And let's bring Philip Zirin and Jason Berg up onto the podium.
Gentlemen, both of you have supported the Noagent Show in the amount of $1,000 or more.
That means you now are welcome into these circle...
Of the Knights and the Dames, it's the Noah Jenner Roundtable, and I hereby pronounce thee Sir Philip Paladin of Common Sense and Sir Jason Berg, Ken Knights of Peacock Lane.
For you, hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, ass cream with bear fillings, corn stars and pot, Cuban cigars and single malt scotch, hot pants and booze, vodka and vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, or maybe just some mutton and mead.
Which is really quite disgusting.
Well, I like mead, but the mutton is not one of my favorites.
Can I ask you a question about society in general?
My favorite topic?
Now, what is the difference in so far as the possibility, let's say, 20 years ago, using maybe an early digital camera or a little compact film camera or something like that, or even going back 50 years for all that matters, and taking an upskirt picture, which you might want to do, and today, Doing the exact same thing.
50 years ago, today.
50 years ago, today.
Okay.
What is the difference?
The difference in what way?
In the end result?
In the quality?
You can take one 50 years ago, you can take one today.
Is there a real change that is important enough to change all the laws in the country?
Ah, hmm.
Well, I would say the difference is, and I did it now, The difference is...
I did, yeah.
The difference is the shareability.
50 years ago, you kind of could show it to your buddies, and you couldn't replicate it all over the interwebs.
Okay, that would, I guess, be...
But I still would...
I think upskirts...
There was a period when I looked at upskirt websites and went, huh, that's pretty rude.
Yeah.
Yes, very rude.
Well, let's listen to what Queen Latifah says on her show about this topic.
Wow!
Well, I'll tell you after this.
Video, a cell phone, and what this judge was saying is you don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy when you're out in public places.
So when you're on a train, you're on a bus, you're at the Lincoln Memorial, if you're sitting with your skirt and your legs exposed, your arms exposed, anyone can take your pictures, and it is not illegal.
That does not feel right to me.
Everything about that seems wrong.
Yeah.
You know, I think the judge got it wrong.
I think the judge took this very narrow interpretation of this antiquated, outdated law and didn't, you know, take into consideration that today with phones and, you know, smart technology...
People's privacy.
We're not private figures just because we're sitting out in a private place or a public place.
Right.
Which I think is going to get very tricky because as technology advances and as everyone has a camera phone, a cell phone, or some sort of video recorder, We're going to have to, judges and legal experts, you guys are going to have to figure out how to adjust those.
I'm not exactly sure how old that law is, but you're going to constantly see these sort of cases coming around where judges have to adjust these laws to apply to today's reality.
Hold the phone for, oh, are you still there?
Yes.
Okay, I'm good.
Hold the phone.
When I hear this, I know that this has come up before.
On this show, I went to search.nashownotes.com during this clip and put in the word upskirt.
Episode 5, 9, or 8.
Massachusetts Supreme Court rules upskirt photos taken without permission are legal.
We have discussed this.
And this is now back?
Yes, this is the war on photography.
598, that's probably not in the No Agenda player, so I couldn't find that.
That's too old.
Huh.
So why is this back?
And was she talking about Massachusetts again, or was this something else?
Yes, I think it was a second case.
I think it was another case that came up, and the judge did the same exact thing based on the first case.
I think this is a new case.
Interesting.
I have this video clip or something we played on 598.
Should I give this a whirl and see what it was?
Yeah.
This is interesting that this happened.
Lawmakers in Massachusetts are looking for their own solution after the state's highest court caused outrage.
The justices ruled unanimously yesterday that a man accused of taking pictures underneath a woman's skirt on a commuter train did not, I repeat, not break the law.
The practice is known as upskirting.
CBS News legal analyst Ricky Kleeman is a Massachusetts trial attorney.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Okay, how is this not illegal?
Well, it's dreadful.
It's creepy.
It's something that none of us want to happen to ourselves or to others.
But if you look at the language of the law in Massachusetts, it's not illegal.
Why not?
Well, the why not is because the way the legislature had drafted this law says that a woman has to be nude or partially nude and that she has to be in a place with a reasonable expectation of privacy.
The law was about peeping Toms.
You're in your bed.
Yeah, it was a peeping Tom law.
Hmm.
I'm looking now at the show notes for Five Niner 8 to see if I can find any other supporting articles.
So, okay, so this is just coming back then, I guess.
Oh, I know what we're going to do.
Let's blame it on Republicans.
Does that make any sense?
That's a stretch.
I don't know.
Most of the Apple iPhone users, to be honest about it, are Democrats.
So here's what's interesting.
Did you actually watch the Queen Latifah show?
Now I'm asking very specifically because you had told me, we had a conversation a few weeks ago, and you said, Craig Ferguson is worth watching.
Yes.
Because he's on his way out, and he's got this big payoff.
He doesn't care.
And I agree.
I watched a show, dynamite, hilarious.
And he even said, ladies and gentlemen, you're watching a foreigner who doesn't give a crap.
And it was so true.
And after Ferguson, the Queen Latifah show comes on.
And this is...
Oh, I know why.
I stayed watching because she had Lisa Ling on.
Lisa Ling.
This is no new show.
Whatever, Lisa Ling.
I thought maybe I'd get some clips from it and didn't really find anything.
But she had this clip of this outfit called My Job Chart.
Do you mind if I just move towards this for a second?
No, it's fine.
I don't really have any other point to make about this.
Well, the Queen Latifah show, it's one big native ad.
I don't like the Queen Latifah show.
I don't either.
A lot of these new shows, that one horrible one, which I can't remember the name of it, is the worst of the group.
But anyway, go on.
The one horrible one that you can't remember.
Okay.
She starts off with a callback to this Dove campaign, which I like, which is how mothers influence their daughters about self-image.
It's very revealing, but it's a commercial for Dove, and Dove is Unilever.
Very smart.
They know how to do these things, and I would say they are the leaders of native advertising.
But then this native ad comes up with a PR video of My Job Chart, and I'll play the PR video, this is the whole thing, not from the Queen Latifah show, but from their website, myjobchart.com.
Today, more than ever, parents are facing a serious problem, consistently teaching kids the benefits of work and the value of a dollar.
It is becoming increasingly difficult for our kids to get away from things like video games and TV. Harder and harder for parents to raise kids that know how to work and be responsible.
Conscientious parents have tried everything from paper charts on the wall, reward cards, posters, stickers, you name it.
It's been tried.
Finally, there is a solution for kids growing up in the digital age.
MyJobChart.com MyJobChart.com teaches kids to work in a fun and productive way.
With MyJobChart.com, kids love to log in with their own password and see their chores for the day.
Are you at MyJobChart.com?
I'm just sitting back listening to this bull crap.
A little bit more of this, go to the products section and you'll see what this is really about.
As they complete their chores, they earn points.
These points can then be used to save, share, or spend.
My Job Chart is revolutionizing the way parents teach children financial fundamentals.
With patented technology, My Job Chart teaches kids to save, share, and spend.
Now, it goes on a little bit longer.
Now, what was it you wanted me to click on?
Products in the top menu.
This website...
Myjobchart.com.
Oh, chart.
Okay, I put S. So, what this is, is you...
This is teaching children how to be debt slaves.
So, you get a mobile app, and then, you know, make up your bed, do your chore.
Myjobchart.com, I get no, server not found.
Oh wait, this WW1 thing snuck in there.
Let me get rid of that.
It's really hard.
It's just like, you know, have you noticed this?
A lot of the browsers, they kick back to the previous thing you typed in.
Yeah, browsers are inherently broken.
Yeah, true.
Here, here.
I just erased the dot that I left on there.
And then I went to click on it, and boom, it shows up again.
I go back to the same dead side.
You know what that is?
It's obvious.
He is screwing with your browser.
So financial products for kids while you're...
Got there, finally.
This is sponsored by, and this is a front company for Capital One.
So the kids get points...
And then with those points...
Yeah, it's right there.
Products.
What we like.
Capital One featured.
Debit cards for kids.
And then financial products.
This is disgusting.
Thank you.
This is your...
This is your find of the day.
This is gross.
It's gross.
Ebola.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Myjobchart.com.
It's disgusting.
It's scary and wretched and miserable.
It is gross.
Yes, that's this site.
Myjobchart.com.
Woo!
And, you know, when I was growing up, we had something called Grit.
I think we've talked about that before.
And Grit was a newspaper, and you could sign up, and you'd deliver this newspaper, which nobody read.
No, nobody.
No, when I was a kid.
Then you'd get points, and you could earn a bike, which you never earned.
I was a kid.
X-ray glasses or something.
You could actually get a real job in a real company and buy a car when you were in high school.
Tell us about those days, John.
Those must have been great.
It was.
I didn't realize until recently how great it was.
It was wonderful.
I knew a kid who bought a Corvette new.
Wow.
While in high school.
I spent all my money on CB radios and stuff.
No, we did that too.
I remember one time I took two buses and a tram into Amsterdam to go to the army surplus store to buy a gas mask.
And to this day, I'm not quite sure why I did that.
It was Lulop.
It's because gas masks are cool.
It was kind of cool.
And I had it in my room.
And then, you know, friends would come up.
Just in case.
Hey, can I put the gas mask on?
Yeah, sure, go ahead.
Give it a shot.
Try the gas mask.
Yeah, that's strange.
So yeah, this is the Queen Latifah show.
One big native ad.
And yeah, disgusting.
I really did not like that.
It'd be interesting to see the books of that show because it's all native advertising.
I mean, once in a while she talks about something like this situation with the upskirting.
I couldn't find a native ad in there.
I'm not sure why that's being brought back.
I think they just had a hole in the show and needed to plug it with something.
Maybe.
I've got two things.
Yeah, one more.
Getting women to vote Democrat.
Yeah.
This is from the White House.
And again, I got two separate emails to the two different at curry.com email addresses with different subject headers, but the same body in the message.
They're doing lots of A-B testing.
And this is the White House whiteboard.
So it's one of those things that we don't like.
Well, if you're doing A-B testing, I want to hear the two headlines.
Yeah.
Okay, that I... Hold on.
This will always be of interest to me.
Yes, I'm sorry.
That was actually dumb that I didn't keep that.
Let me see.
I'm looking in my...
I wonder...
So there are almost a million dummies who have signed up for...
779,000 people have signed up for my job chart.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Okay, so I don't know if I have this one specifically, but I do have...
Here's an example from the White House.
Jobs Day, this is when the numbers came out, that was version A. Version B, the jobs report dewonkified as the alternative...
One of them was just straight Jobs Day?
Uh-huh.
Capital J, capital D. Yeah, that is not a good headline under any circumstances.
You don't test against crap.
Well...
Anyway, okay.
I just wanted to know if this were talented headline writers.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
That's okay.
Now I know I have to keep them.
I feel stupid because I should have at least written it down.
So this is the whiteboard where you see a hand drawing with a voiceover.
I hate that.
Yeah, me too.
And it's overused and overdone.
But they promise under two minutes, which under two minutes, to explain the minimum wage benefit.
The benefit to Americans having minimum wage.
But wow, does this make a turn almost from the beginning to say, hello, women, vote for us, not for the other team.
I've been hearing the president calling for an increase in the minimum wage.
How low is the minimum wage actually?
Think about this.
Today, the minimum wage buys you about 20% less than it did in 1981 when Ronald Reagan took office.
Meanwhile, a subway fare is higher than it was in the 80s.
So is a week of childcare, and so is college tuition.
Has your landlord been handing out rent decreases?
Didn't think so.
So, who exactly is earning the minimum wage these days?
The typical minimum wage worker probably isn't who you think she is.
Probably isn't who you think she is.
What?
More than half of those who would benefit from an increase are women.
More than half of them work full-time.
They're 35 years old, on average, and more than a quarter of them have children.
Take Sarah, a wage earner in South Carolina.
Here's what a 10-10 federal minimum wage would mean for her.
It would cover more than 24 months of groceries, more than seven months worth of rent, more than 38 months of electricity, more than 1,700 gallons of gas.
Let's zoom out for a second.
Zoom out!
What's the big picture look like here?
Raising the federal minimum wage right now would lift 2 million Americans out of poverty.
28 million American workers from all types of households would see their wages go up.
Plus, it would strengthen our economy and our businesses because consumers will have more money to spend and businesses will see higher productivity.
Well, you get the point.
Wow.
It's all about women.
Not a single mention about women.
And you're right.
Everything we talked about on today's show can be hooked in somehow, someway, to moving votes from one party to the other.
Yes.
This is going to be, by the way, a theme of every show we do until the election's over.
And then when the election's over, we will all of a sudden see a whole different news profile that we have to deconstruct.
Oh, yeah.
Very different.
There was one that I'm surprised, a little surprised that you didn't come up with this one.
This is your friend, Thom Hartman.
Are you ready for it?
No, I'm always ready for Thom.
Christopher Columbus was the ISIS of his day.
Ha ha!
Okay.
I'll put the clip of the day for that.
Ha ha!
The stupidest thing I've ever heard anyone say.
Let me do a combo then in that show.
Wow!
Christopher Columbus was the ISIS of his day.
Clip of the day.
Crap!
Wow!
Wow!
What is wrong with these people?
And he goes way into that.
Way deep into that.
Oh, I'm sure he does.
It's part of the left...
There's a...
Not a left wing, but progressive, we'll call it.
Uh...
Kind of a litany that wants to vilify Christopher Columbus and extol Indigenous People's Day and all the rest of it stems from this.
The entire clip...
I mean, I know that we've made a shift on Christopher Columbus, and I don't know if I really care.
The mail didn't come.
The banks were closed.
But I still had stuff to do.
Yeah, actually, but most stores were open.
It gave me a shot into San Francisco and back with no traffic.
There must be some...
By the way, I didn't realize, because the traffic was so low and it was only federal people that were off work and bankers, that most of the traffic in the Bay Area is from these people.
Bankers and federal workers.
Yeah.
Heck, high-tech doing well is these bankers and federal workers logging up to freeways.
Do you know what the deal is?
Why this has so been changed and Columbus is now a horrible guy?
This is just a code for fellow travelers.
This began in Berkeley area and California probably...
As long as far back as I can remember, probably the 70s.
Maybe into the 60s.
It was a slow growth movement, but it indicates you're part of the team that's thinking the right way.
You know, like the Obama bots.
You ask them, they're all in on this.
Do we listen and deconstruct, or do we just leave it alone?
We can leave it alone.
That's what I thought.
I don't want to have a repeat of the last show.
You were right, by the way.
You were right.
Okay, I'll save everything else.
Well, that was all Kerry's fault.
It was, and I still think, you know, I do these Kerry clips, and then I listen, and I'm like, ah, what a dick.
I have tried and tried, I mean, unless Kerry's got words.
It's very hard.
It never does, because he's such a boring guy, that I haven't had a Kerry clip for, I don't know, months, because there's nothing to clip.
Just droning on and on.
I try every single time.
There's one thing I do want to play, because this is something I'm working on, and there's a very long video I have queued up for...
To look at for Sunday shows.
This is what I'll be working on.
There's a new term.
I had not heard it, but it's been around.
I just didn't know what was going on with this.
And this is, I think, a...
I don't know if this is BBC or no, this...
Yeah, this may be BBC, about war games going on in and around the Chinese Sea and pretty much all around China that we are conducting.
And here's a new term in this.
We just saw that report from Wurper and Winter Days with these live military exercises off the coast of Guam.
Are we now seeing the full might of America's so-called Asia Pivot Policy?
Matt, good morning.
I do believe we are.
A lot of things are taking place currently.
We saw the USS Carl Vinson also there with the George Washington in terms of Carrier Strike Group.
That was recently through Singapore.
We've had a number of engagements in the region.
The U.S. Army is executing in what's called Pacific Pathways.
This is a newer concept.
We had U.S. Army soldiers from Washington State.
They were training in Indonesia.
They went up to Malaysia.
They're going to do an exercise in Japan.
So I think we are seeing this.
There's still a bit more of it coming online.
We're about halfway to the 2,500 Marines.
They're going to be stationed in a rotational presence through Darwin.
That's still ongoing.
But we are seeing it.
And presence is very important.
You see that.
Indeed, presence is very important.
And the commitment of U.S. President Barack Obama.
Recently, the Obama administration shifted in policy since the end of the Vietnam War to begin selling Vietnam limited amounts of lethal arms.
This is dramatic.
It's amazing to think 1975 at the end of that war was not that long ago.
So we have seen a tremendous movement in that direction.
I think we still have a long way to go, and obviously Vietnam has a multitude of concerns, but this is a significant step forward.
Did you hear the term?
No.
Pacific Pathways.
Oh, okay.
And this is, as this guy said, a relatively new term.
And from defense.gov I found a page about it.
Pacific Pathways increases readiness through partnership, and the concept is an innovative and experimental approach to increasing Army readiness through partnership, the commander of the U.S. Army Pacific said yesterday.
This is an innovation in large measure.
It's a new way of doing something we have been doing already.
We have already been participating in exercises around the region, and I believe what this means is our exercises with Japan, in the Malacca Straits, Indonesia, Malaysia, and all of it intended clearly to tell the Chiners, we're here.
Oh, yeah.
And there was a big conference about this.
And I'm now more convinced, by the way, than ever that this action taking place in Hong Kong is us.
Okay, now I do have one final clip.
Well, then I have a final clip.
Do you want to do your final clip first?
Well, this is the Hong Kong thing.
I have two clips.
One is the protester in China clip, which I'm going to skip that and go to number two, which is...
I would like to do mine because yours may...
Mine's very, very short.
It is eight seconds.
I'm going to tell you what mine's about, then you can make a decision.
Mine is about a man on the street in China asking around whether anyone knows about Hong Kong.
No.
Mine will be perfect to do first.
Hold on.
You have two or one?
I have two, but the one you want is part two.
It says two.
China protests two.
You don't want to do the other one?
Only that one?
No, the other one is too long, and it's not the point I want to make.
So this is from, I think, BBC, and I was listening to NPR, and I hear the same term over and over again when they're talking about the Umbrella Revolution, which by itself means that's U.S. State Department when we name it.
Orange Revolution, Rose Revolution, Umbrella Revolution.
And this term...
Hello to hundreds of Hong Kong police officers have clashed with pro-democracy protesters.
Pro-democracy protesters.
This is such a loaded term.
To say pro-democracy.
It's not.
They have democracy.
They just don't like the way it's been set up.
But to say, to blanketly say pro-democracy protesters, I think is wrong.
It serves its purpose.
All right, dude.
Does this need setting up your clip?
This is the Chinese.
They can't seem to get our mistake here.
And I guess the Chinese skill is they've blocked this information from the mainland because they don't need this aggravation there to such an extreme that it's almost laughable and what you're going to hear could happen here at any moment and may already be going on when we have our protesters like the Occupy groups that lose all their credibility.
This fear has turned into paranoia.
Last Saturday in Beijing, some internet posts called on people to come to Tiananmen Square with open umbrellas.
But after one hour, we saw only one person carrying this symbol of the Hong Kong protest, a tourist, surprised to be refused entry to the square.
Other posts called for a rally at this McDonald's.
But nobody was there, except the police, who filmed us and then blocked our cameras.
But it's hard to imagine the Hong Kong protests spreading to mainland China.
Beijing filters all information coming from Hong Kong.
Even at this university, which was a center of the 1989 Tiananmen movement, students seemed barely aware of the Hong Kong demonstrations.
I haven't really paid much attention to this.
Sorry.
Occupying central means occupying the center of Hong Kong in order to force the government to do something.
I think that's what it is.
I think patriotism should be the most important issue here.
I don't know what to say.
I don't quite grasp what's going on.
Okay, break it down.
That's it.
They've done such a great job.
So our State Department, which we'll assume has something to do with this, just to give the Chinese the needle, and it is their banking center, Hong Kong.
Oh, yeah.
We have to find some new mechanism to get...
Into the information into China, because what we really want to do is kind of upset the apple cart there.
But we're not even close.
It's like a fail.
It's like a complete fail.
Huh.
Yeah, no, it's the State Department.
It is Kerry's State Department, and you can say what you want about her, but Hillary, when it came to screwing countries over, she was the bomb.
Yeah.
I mean, it didn't work out with the, you know, it actually made a bigger mess, but if the goal is to rebelize, the Chinese are just, the Chinese wall, hello, it's always what's called that, and it's amusing to me that they can't, in China, and they have all these bypasses, even, we've even worked it out, so the Iranians, we had a clip where they have all kinds of mechanisms where they can bypass all those sensors.
In China, no.
No, even the college students don't have a clue.
And they're the ones who would be susceptible to being upset.
Right.
Yeah, now this is going to be fun, but the Chinese are outmatching us, outwitting us.
Well, we will have that and many more issues to discuss on the next episode of the Best Podcast in the Universe, featuring future Podcasting Hall of Fame inductees...
For our tireless work in promoting the medium.
Wouldn't it be funny if we don't get inducted?
Oh, it wouldn't be funny.
I don't expect to be inducted, but it would be funny if you didn't.
You're in.
You are a pioneer.
A true pioneer of the medium.
Yes, yes!
I guess I can always play a tech grouch, and that would be what people think is me.
I got something for the end sequence, which is even better.
All right.
All right.
Good working with you.
Now it's going to be a Hall of Famer.
I mean that sincerely.
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My name is Adam Curry.
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I'm John C. Dvorak.
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Exactly.
I've got to get to the lungs drugs and get some toilet paper because the Chinese are buying it up.
What happens if they're wrong?
If they're wrong...
Life as you know it on Earth ends.
Catastrophe.
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