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651: Plague Grenade
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Bayonets, one dollar.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, September 11th, 2014.
Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 651.
This is no agenda.
Back at home base in Austin, Texas, preparing for ISIL to cross the border into FEMA Region 6.
Good morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's garbage day and ISIL's already here, I'm John C. Dvorak.
In fact, I believe the garbage men are ISIL.
They are merely posing as sanitation engineers.
Yes.
Well, they're out there now taking cans.
Yeah.
Very good.
Hey, Jean-Claude, I'm back.
I'm back.
It's all automated, too.
You know, you get these big trucks, they grab the thing and throw it in.
A big pincher.
In the olden days, it was different.
You're back!
I am back.
And I had a nice journey back.
And this is what we all want to hear.
Yes, I understand.
And you can begin.
Okay, first I need to let you know that I picked up some kind of bug on one of the flights, and I am ill.
Actually, I'm okay now, but I went to bed at 9.30 last night with a high fever.
Huh.
Just all of it came over me.
My body started to ache, and I had chills, and I woke up around 6 again with just shivering.
You must have caught something on the plane.
Yeah, some douche.
Germs walk around in that recycled air, and they say, hey, look at this douchebag.
He looks tired.
Let's jump on him.
I think I'll be okay, though.
All right, so leaving.
Usually there's enough room in first class that you don't have so much of a problem.
I'm sorry.
What?
Did you say first class?
You weren't in first class?
No!
No.
I don't even...
KLM has downgraded me because I don't fly enough.
I used to have a gold, then it was silver.
Oh, they would upgrade you.
No.
This is your miles, and now I am...
What is it?
They have a really horrible level.
It's...
Oh, yeah.
All these airlines have done that.
They lure you in with the promises, and then when you get to the...
Oh, sorry, we raised it.
Oh, did you read that?
Well, how can you raise it on me?
No, you just read.
Read the terms of service.
We can raise it whenever we feel like it.
I'm trying to think, what was the...
The chat room may know.
What was the...
Their lowest level is...
Douchebag.
No.
Well, that is...
It is the equivalent of a douchebag, but it has a...
Oh man, I should have written it down.
No, it's not silver.
It's below silver.
It's like...
Tin.
No, it's...
Lead.
Forget about it.
Look it up on the website, people.
No, it's not silver.
It's not aluminium.
Aluminium.
I'm on the aluminium level of KLH. Someone would just go to the website and look it up instead of everyone guessing.
Anyway, go on with the story.
So I had to pay for my extra suitcase because I had to take all the stuff back, all of my presents.
I had to buy a second suitcase.
And I even snuck the Cuban cigars in, which was given to me.
Yeah.
Ivory.
There you go.
Ivory.
Did you take the little rings off just in case?
No, I just left it in the box.
Oh, really?
You took the box with the box and the stamp and the whole thing?
Yeah, it says Cohiba from Cuba right on the box.
Oh, the Cohibas.
Somebody gave you those?
Yeah, my buddy gave them.
Wow, that's an expensive gift.
Yeah, it is.
It's like $20 each.
I know.
It's a very nice gift.
Okay, so going through Schiphol Airport, first of all, I love when you just arrive at the airport and you look at your Wi-Fi device, seeing as I don't have a...
Smartphone.
And you just see the NA secret network pop up.
It just makes you feel super good.
NA secret network.
Yeah, you just feel like, because it automatically reconnects.
So you haven't been there for a year, and there it is.
It's all working.
It's beautiful.
So they had two slave scanners.
And the way it works at Schiphol Airport is you go through security at the gate.
And I'm like, you know, of course, global, my trusted global entry, trusted traveler, there's nothing outside of the United States.
But I said, hey, can I have an opt-out?
And it was interesting because the guy, I said it in English.
No, I think I said it in Dutch, mach ik een opt-out.
So it was half Dutch, half English.
And he really got in my face.
Oh, there's a pass.
Hey, Dad, pass.
Which means, can I pass?
Can I take a pass on going through?
He said, I'm sorry, man.
I didn't know the word for it.
I'm American.
And he immediately apologized, but he was really irked for a moment.
And he said, you know, can I ask you why?
I said, yeah, I don't like the machine.
He said, because of radiation?
He said, no, I just don't like the machine.
I don't like it.
I don't want to go through it.
They said, okay.
So I passed.
Now, you don't even go through the magnetometer.
Okay.
They just walk you.
He gives you a bunch of grief, and then he just buckles?
Yes, and then you walk right past the magnetometer.
Not through, right past it.
Why don't they put you through the magnetometer?
This is the security theater that is everywhere.
And I get a pat down.
And now the people...
This is how the crotch bomber got on board.
And he didn't touch my crotch.
I would have remembered.
In fact, I said, oh, this is my free massage.
And he was like, yeah.
And after he was done, he said, did you like it?
I said, yeah.
He said, you can tip me.
So the guy had humor.
At least he had a sincere humor.
They did not ask about my microphone at all.
The entire big bag full of wires and transmitters and antennas and electronics.
But I did have to turn on all of my devices.
I had to show that I have two laptops.
I had to show that they turned on.
Yeah, that's a new thing.
Yeah.
Well, it's a new...
Taxi Harkins back to the early days.
Yes, I recall that.
And by the way, how many laptops have ever exploded?
Please.
Stupid.
So I was flying back via JFK, where I would land first and then get on the...
That's a douchebag airport.
Well, this...
I have to say, America is a great country, as long as you're rich, as long as you have $140.
Let me tell you about the global entry experience.
This was hilarious.
So you walk out, and then there's three lanes down to customs.
One is visitors.
The second one is U.S. citizens.
And then there's a third one, which says, global entry, diplomats, and VIPs.
That's nice.
And you just zip down this lane.
You pass right by everybody.
Down at the bottom.
Turn left, and there's five kiosks.
I walk up.
I put my passport in, and it immediately says, boop, boop, boop.
It has sounds and, like, pretty, like, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
And then you, and it says, okay, you have to answer these questions, which is your customs questions.
And there's a button, say no to all.
This is the, you know, you bring in fruits, plants.
Say no to all?
Yeah, you get, bing, so all are selected.
Then it says, okay, I need your, you know, your fingerprints.
And there's one of those red, um, Glass, plexiglass thingies.
So I put my four fingers on it, and I'm telling you, I'm looking at it, and the graphics, I should have recorded this on video, the graphics, it went fast, were really cool, you see, it's like minority report, you see all of a sudden, it's little squares around my fingers, and then the left one, it says, no finger present.
Like, dude, this is my, my finger's present, it's on here.
And then, in a split second, it took my picture, but I'm, you know, 6'4", and I didn't crouch down or anything, and I didn't position myself in front of the camera, so it got in my chin.
That was the facial recognition, I guess.
And it got in my chin, and it prints out a receipt and says, you're good to go.
It just shot a picture of your chin and you were good to go?
If you go to my Twitter stream, I should have put this on a separate URL, sorry.
Go to twitter.com slash Adam Curry, and I posted a picture of it.
How did you get a copy of it?
I took a picture!
I took a picture right there.
Of your picture?
Yeah, if you go down...
Yeah, it's right under Mickey and me kissing.
You're posting pictures of you kissing?
Yes.
Well, she posted it and I retweeted it.
Of course.
You retweeted it?
Okay.
I just want you to see this receipt that I received.
Are you there yet?
It's not that easy because the microphone's in the way of the keyboard.
Oh, wow.
It's a very difficult situation.
We're live now at No Agenda Stream.
Oh, which reminds me.
Down, down, down.
Go down.
Don't get sidetracked.
Well, I want to get sidetracked because I need to retweet.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, there's a picture of the two of you kissing.
That's sweet.
Right below.
Hell yeah.
There's a spinning heart.
I don't know where you got that.
Click on the picture of my receipt underneath it.
The revolving heart.
Show this receipt.
Okay, I'm clicking on it.
And the tweet says, global entry test completed.
It's more on your chin.
It's got your nose and part of your mouth.
Please, this is not...
I can see the thing figuring it out.
John, this is an empty box.
It didn't check my fingerprints against the database in a nanosecond.
No way.
This is bull.
Seems highly unlikely.
So this is a two-minute process.
That's fantastic.
Wait, it gets better.
This is like a commercial for this.
We should be charging them money to be doing this report.
I think like dozens of people will now pay the $140.
So then I walk towards the baggage claim.
So right now I'm parallel to all of the Customs Border Patrol officers' little kiosks.
And there's a dude to the left kind of slouched against the wall.
And I didn't even show him the ticket, the receipt.
He went, I'm good.
And that was it.
And then I'm in baggage claim.
That was it?
And your baggage claim?
Yeah!
Did you take this?
What happened to this receipt?
Well, you hand it off when you leave the airport.
You give it to the guy who asks if you have anything to declare again.
Then you're out.
So you never go to one of the boxes where there's a guy sitting there?
No, you walk straight past that.
Nobody ever stamps your passport?
No, no.
Well, I have an American passport.
I don't think they stamp it anyway.
Yeah, they used to.
And that was it.
Good to go.
And, of course, I had to transfer, and this was interesting.
Oh, the transfer.
So because my tickets were printed, my boarding pass was printed in Amsterdam, it didn't have a pre-check on it, but I figured I would just use my global entry card, which is a trusted traveler.
Right.
So the transfer security, which you don't barely come in, I don't think you come in contact with the outside world, but okay.
I know.
They make you go through everything again, even though you never really leave anything.
You're still in the confines of the secure area.
Right.
And there was one magnetometer with two x-ray machines left and right.
And...
X-ray machines?
I thought they took those out.
No, for your bags.
Your bag x-ray machines.
Oh, yeah.
Not body.
No, no.
So there's a magnetometer in the middle.
And then the guy says, pre-check?
You know, pre-check?
I say, yeah, I'm pre-check.
And I said, which belt do we?
It doesn't matter.
Okay, so I put my stuff on, and then I walk up to him.
He's on the other side of the magnetometer.
He says, no, no, you don't have pre-check.
I said, this is my trusted trust.
You don't have pre-check.
Okay.
He said, take off your shoes.
And that was the only difference.
I had to take off my shoes.
And then go through again.
It's completely idiotic.
It is totally idiotic.
And I cannot wait until Miss Mickey comes back and sails through this as well, which we know will prove that there is absolutely no correlation on the back end between these databases because she has this flag which no one has spoken about throughout this entire process.
She was approved immediately.
So, I don't know what...
I think it's just an empty box, John.
It's completely disassociated from anything else.
And it's fantastic.
Sounds great.
Besides that I'm in another database.
Other than that, I'm really enjoying it.
I like this picture of you.
It's ludicrous.
Yeah, it looks like him.
The fingerprint scanner was...
I need to record this on video next.
I think our next trip will be to Panama in November.
Oh, you're in Panama.
Yeah, we're going to do Panama.
Hey, come on, man.
Find some place for some good fiber optics and park yourself there.
Yeah, but we're also going to go visit indigenous tribes.
They don't usually have good internet and indigenous tribes.
And they tend to eat you.
Yeah, exactly.
These two look like a month's worth of food.
Oh boy.
Yeah, I'm really worried about the negative feedback I'm going to get from that comment from all our Panamanian nights.
We have listeners in Panama.
One.
I think it's an expat.
Yeah.
I was thinking before we get into some of the obvious things.
There was a lot of...
Of course, the tech industry went nuts about the Apple Keynote and the Apple Watch.
But I have not seen a single critical evaluation of the presentation itself and a number of things which I found to be very surprising, which no one has said anything about.
Really?
You didn't read my column in PC Magazine?
Oh, no.
I'm sorry.
No, I haven't read it.
No, thanks a lot.
Well, I don't...
You have a whole thesis and then you just...
Eh, screw Dvorak.
I'm sorry.
I'm not going to read his...
Obviously, he's going to write a column about this.
I... Well, tell me, what did you write?
I can't remember.
I can't remember from one minute to the next.
I write the column, then I'm on to the next.
Okay.
But it was about what you're going to talk about.
I'm absolutely convinced of it.
Well, I found the rebranding of I to Apple.
Exactly.
I talked about that, too.
What do you think?
I mean, I think this is very dangerous.
No, I think it was a very smart move when I said so.
I think it's hard.
People are not picking up on it.
It just started.
It's going to take a couple of years to move people over.
Why would they do this?
Here's what I talked about, if you'd read the column.
I didn't read it.
We get it.
We're rubbing in.
You don't even read my emails, let alone a column I would write.
Well, there's that.
The point is that Apple can't deal with this I this, I that, I this, I that, because there's these douchebags out there.
They go register these names.
They copyright stuff.
It's a disaster.
And then they can't also deal with Apple Watch.
And by the way, I said it should be called the A-Watch.
And when they bring their garden tools out, they can have the A-Hose.
Whoa!
Hey-o.
Okay, so the use of the Apple logo.
That is challenging.
I found it on the Mac.
It's a little bit like Prince, but at the same time, there's no way anybody is going to steal this name, because the logo obviously means it's Apple, so it's Apple Watch.
It's going to be Apple Phone.
I agree.
Apple Phone.
So you were the only one.
I picked it up immediately.
I'm like, wow, okay.
And it's option shift K on the Mac.
You get the little Apple logo.
The Mac would have it.
Of course.
Of course.
Just a few things about this.
This was the first presentation that was a big one without jobs and all of this.
I thought Tim Tom Collins, whatever his name is.
I thought his performance was strong.
It was better than usual.
I don't know about the waving, like he's the queen of Silicon Valley.
That was a little much.
And I love how they position the iPhone as the best phone of all, just the best phone on the planet in the universe.
Yeah.
Not a single time was the word smartphone used.
I thought that was very...
There's no reason to.
No.
Phil Schiller, he has to up his game.
He was boring.
My God, he was boring.
I don't remember him because I think I fell asleep.
Well, he presented the iPhone 6s and iOS 8.
And he was just boring.
And then they brought on some gamer dudes.
How stupid was this?
What about the guy who comes out with the shirt, the wrinkled shirt, the wrinkled pink shirt, an open collar, and he's like up chains.
He looked like a mobster.
Did I miss that?
Was that at the very end?
No, it was right in the middle.
Hmm.
This mobster guy comes out.
Hey, here's what we've got.
Well, Eddie Q, who used to be the iTunes guy, he was doing the presentation of Apple Pay.
Yeah, I think that was him.
Eddie Q. Yeah, he comes out with a wrinkled shirt.
The wrinkled pink shirt.
It was obviously tucked in, and then somebody said, no, you can't have a tucked-in shirt.
You're in Silicon Valley, dude.
And so he pulls the shirt out, so it's all wrinkled at the bottom like a shirt that was tucked in.
You know what I mean?
Yes, and it was pink.
And it was pink.
This is wrong.
No, no.
These people need stylists.
They need somebody to come in.
I mean, this is dumb.
It's just like Microsoft and this new guy.
He wears the stupidest stuff.
And then a four-minute standing ovation for the Apple Watch video.
People.
What do you think?
Well, it was at this point.
We're doing tech news right away.
We might as well go on with...
I mean, we're just, you know, two guys.
But if we actually paid much attention to the mainstream media, we'd get reports like this one on Fox News on The Five, where they not only discuss some of this stuff, but they manage to point out in the way that I've been recommending that Samsung stinks.
Obviously, they're not advertising.
Uh-huh.
That was the legendary U2 helping Apple celebrate the launch.
And enough with the U2 already.
Hello, Tom Collins, Tim Collins, Cook.
It's 2014.
There are hipper bands.
...of the iPhone 6 today and also the Apple Watch out in Cupertino, California.
The company unveiled two new phones, the 6 with a 4.7-inch screen and the 6 Plus with a 5.5.
It also designed a new wearable device called the Apple Watch.
That can supposedly do all kinds of cool things.
Yeah!
All kinds of cool things.
Kimberly, why are we so obsessed with Apple?
Why do we want to know when everything is coming out?
Apples are fun and tasty and good devices.
I love it.
I mean, I'm a big convert to Apple.
I even recently just tried the Samsung thing, but I've never now.
I don't know.
I can't even use it.
People still camp out at the store.
There's no reason to camp out.
I think it's so good.
It's user-friendly.
You've got your little iPads.
You've got your iPhone.
You've got your iMac.
It's just all one group of families.
I already have the Apple Watch if you get a shot of this.
Really?
Is that true?
Look at it.
How did you get that?
It's great.
No, that's a rubber band.
Okay.
There you go.
That is tech news, people.
It was at this point that I realized how horrible this is really going to be from this point on because the masses are so...
Mind controlled.
They are going willingly into this wearables thing.
And I have to say, I think it will be successful.
Of course, you have to have the iPhone 6.
This all makes total sense that they're doing this.
It's like a joke.
Let me ask you this rhetorical question.
When I think it was RIM or one of these operations had Blackberry, it was the Blackberry guys, they brought out a tablet that required to actually use the tablet, you had to have a Blackberry phone.
It was a big, oh, a big state.
Right, right, right.
Oh, how can you make them buy this and then they have to have that?
That's ridiculous that you'd have to.
The things should stand.
What now?
We got this stupid watch and you have to have an iPhone 6 to use the watch.
The watch does not work without the iPhone 6 on you.
No, exactly.
But nobody says, oh, that's a great idea.
Only Apple would be such a genius to think of such a thing.
It's unbelievable.
John, I'm telling you, this is a sickness.
It is a sickness.
It is a sickness.
People are so...
And this has been building for a long time.
It is a sickness.
I'm saying that all the time about all this stuff.
It cracks me up because I think you're right.
When I was traveling, because I don't have a smartphone, I was observing.
I'm not going to pay boingo, boingo, whatever, five bucks for 30 minutes.
Blow me!
I don't need to see my email.
So I'm watching, and it's women, John.
It's primarily women.
And, you know, you sit down.
I got my shades on, so I'm looking out of the corner of my eye.
And there was one woman, she's in the airport.
She's on the phone, and she's got the earbuds in.
She's on her iPhone 5.
And I see that she's talking on the phone, and then she punches, while she's talking, punches to Facebook.
She's scrolling, scrolling, scrolling.
And this is what the women do, very particular.
They'll see a picture pop, they tap it, and they zoom in to look at someone's face.
They're zooming, and they're observing every single person in the picture, and they tap it back.
And this was just...
She was talking and looking at these pictures and zooming, and she's sick.
This is...
I believe that we...
I wish I could express my grief more clearly.
We are in this international health crisis.
And people know, I think that primarily this is a war, if there's ever a war on women, it's the smartphone.
And there is something about the female brain that I think it's evolution, and we talked a bit about the culture of fashion and self-image.
It is so perfect, and for all of this to be going on, there was not a single woman on the Apple stage!
I found that very peculiar.
Nice catch.
Not a single woman.
I could have dropped that in the column.
It would have been a gem.
Now, they had the product manager of the Apple Watch demo this.
What?
These demos, they finally got a clue and they stopped doing them.
That was so much...
Where does the watch have a connection to a giant screen?
Yeah.
I ask you.
And a lot of gay overtones in that.
That was like, what?
Gay overtones?
Yeah, and undertones.
What?
The way this guy was talking, the things he was saying.
There was a lot of gayness in his presentation.
I'm telling you, I'm extremely worried now that this...
It disproves it.
This proves that the illness is here, the illness is real.
Everyone will go for this ugly-ass watch, and the $349, that's for the cheap jabroni version.
You're going to have the rich kids of Instagram, and all these douchebags will have the big 18-carat, wiki-waki thousands of dollars.
It is, and they're going to love it.
And you know, before you know it, I can predict right now, these same douchebags will get into their Tesla, and it will not start because the Apple Watch has noticed their blood alcohol level is too high.
Well, that's the end game, yes.
And has communicated this.
On the other hand, it will also order a Google car for you, so you don't have to drive at all.
But this is...
Yeah, but that's the good side.
But no, none of this is good.
No, it's good, yeah.
None of this is good.
That's all the work for you.
You don't have to think.
None of this is good.
You can just spend more time on Facebook.
Sick.
Sickness, I tell you.
So I'm listening to this Fox report.
By the way, it goes on and on.
And Guilfoyle, which is the leggy ex, that woman at the beginning of that clip that we played, you have to remember when she's giddy and she's acting like an idiot and she's talking about can't use the Samsung and all the rest of it.
You have to listen to her voice with it in mind.
I'd almost recommend playing the beginning of that again.
With it in mind that she was the district attorney of San Francisco.
Let's listen.
That was the legendary U2 helping Apple celebrate the launch of the iPhone 6 today and also the Apple Watch out in Cupertino, California.
The company unveiled two new phones, the 6 with a 4.7 inch screen and the 6 Plus with a 5.5.
It also designed a new wearable device called the Apple Watch that can supposedly do all kinds of cool things.
So, Kimberly, why are we so upset?
Kimberly Guilfoyle, is that who it is?
Yes.
That's with Apple.
Why do we want to know when everything is coming out?
Apples are fun.
She is sick, John.
She has the sickness.
Yes, I think you're right.
We need to coin a phrase.
Apples are fun.
And tasty and good devices.
Good devices.
And now it can vibrate on my arm with taptic feedback.
We need to coin this illness.
District Attorney.
I love it!
I love it!
I mean, I'm a big convert to Apple.
I even recently just tried the Samsung thing, but I've never now, just like, I don't know, I can't even use it.
But why are we, people still camp out at the store.
There's no reason to camp out.
I think it's so good.
It's user-friendly.
You've got your little iPads.
You've got your iPhone.
And she's also just talking complete baloney.
This is complete senseless.
This is totally senseless.
That's the word.
Senseless.
We need to coin this illness.
We need to give it a name.
Yeah.
Actually, that would be great.
Yeah, let's work on that over the next few weeks.
You're right.
I think it'd be great.
If we could name this, then we could mock people easier.
Once you can name the disease, it's easier to mock people.
Yes, indeed, it is.
Everybody was at the event, and it was being streamed.
And the stream, of course, my column is really about how Apple, how can you trust a company that can't even stream?
And the funny thing is the streaming part was only available to certain people that had a Macintosh.
This was not a worldwide stream that went out to everybody.
If you had a Windows machine, you could not get the stream.
I think if you use Safari, you can use it.
No, no, no, no, no.
No.
If you were on the Apple site, it says very specifically the operating system on a Macintosh or this operating system on a Macintosh.
And I had Safari.
And I used it on a PC. I couldn't get it.
I had to use a Mac.
So it was really wonderful to land in New York.
And I think I landed around 3.30.
And then transited to my flight, which only left an hour and a half later.
And because I didn't have any Wi-Fi, I did not get any news of the products, of the launch of anything.
And you know what?
My world was just fine!
Everything was great.
And I didn't feel bad that I had missed it.
I didn't feel anything.
I so don't care.
I'm going to shut up about it.
But this is an illness.
And I don't even think the people who make this stuff really know how exploitive they can be.
They're just figuring it out.
Yeah, and they're doing very well for themselves.
And particularly for women.
We need to protect our women.
Well, nobody's protecting them from this...
Bull crap.
Horror.
It really is horror.
I agree.
And Facebook is also in the same league.
They go together.
Together they are really the...
It's Pavlovian, but it's self-image.
Well, that's why the Facebook on a smartphone is the world's worst combination.
Yeah, yeah.
You spotted this right away.
Oh, yeah.
It's...
We need to come up with a name.
We will come up with a name for this.
Okay.
I think that's it for tech news.
And I guess no more tech news for a while because there's no phones coming out.
No, wait a minute.
I think they had some other tech news.
No.
Since we're going to do tech news, I might as well finish this.
11%.
Well, hold on a second.
Then I need to...
There's another one on here.
Then I need...
Oh yeah, there is.
We need to talk.
Well, let's get you through New York first, and so we get to the end of that story.
Then we have to discuss a little bit about the internet slowdown.
Yes, we do.
Well, so I'll just finish up.
Get on the plane.
Then when I booked this ticket, I wanted to get economy comfort for the legroom.
Then the whole plane was full.
Yeah, you know, this is another problem.
I'm actually surprised it took so long for them to do this, but once they got the computer scheduling down and all the rest of it, they can pack all the planes now.
It's rare to find an enemy.
But then I get on the plane, and it's half full.
And there are tons of seats open in economy comfort.
And I'm sitting in row 16 or whatever, and then the stewardess, I'm sorry, cabin attendant, says, if you'd like to upgrade to economy comfort, just tell us and we'll upgrade you right here.
Wait, hold on a second.
I've never heard this before.
I've never heard this before.
And this is Delta.
So I walk up to the front and say, hey, I want to upgrade.
And, you know, it's like 60 bucks or whatever.
And she said, okay, well, this guy here can do it.
And he was a ground staff.
And then one other woman went, yeah, no, I have an on-time departure.
We can't do this.
I'm not going to wait for him.
And then the other cabinet attendant, the one I originally spoke to, said, well, why don't you choose your seat?
We'll come and charge you later.
Never happened.
Ah, good.
Perfect.
This is the way to go.
Yeah, this is a typical bureaucracy.
They can't get their act together.
They had no forms.
They don't know how to charge me.
But she said it.
Well, I mean, it's in play.
It's definitely in play, yes.
It's in play, but they just don't have the mechanisms not working.
Because of douchebags like that, obviously that rush, rush, rush girl.
Because they care about their numbers.
You've got to get that thing to leave the gate within a minute.
Well, there is some validity to it.
Well, yeah.
Yesterday, which I think is probably the worst...
Timing for any kind of promotional activity between an Apple event and a terrorist event.
Right.
Today.
9-11.
Congratulations.
Hey, congratulations.
Happy 9-11, John.
Happy 9-11, Adam.
When are we going to stop doing it?
How long did we celebrate Pearl Harbor Day?
Because we don't do a ceremony.
We were at war for a while.
It was a little different.
Okay.
It wasn't everything.
It wasn't bogus.
So I kept receiving emails from the slow down the internet people.
Which I find interesting that the slow down the internet people were all political.
They were all left-wing...
Very liberal or progressives.
Progressives, mostly.
Democracy Now!
was all over this.
They did segment after segment about how important this was.
Let me just read one of these emails, because this is kind of what got me going.
Today is, hey, dear battle for the net supporters.
This is from fightforthefuture.org.
Battle for the net!
We've traced back their financing.
It goes three levels deep into very rich pockets of family foundations, which we can't track really where that's coming from.
Today is the day!
Take action now to save net neutrality.
Today is the day you can cruise around the internet and see so many sites, some of the biggest sites in the world, doing amazing, creative things to protect net neutrality and the internet we love.
Will you sign our letter to Congress and the FCC and make a few phone calls yourself?
Click here.
Check out Netflix, Vimeo, Upworthy, and your Tumblr account for starters.
The list is too long to fit here.
Our stats show over 9,000 sites running one of the internet slowdown widgets.
Right now.
The important thing is it's working.
Thanks to people's generous donations.
What did it accomplish?
Thanks to people's generous donations.
That's how they measure their working.
Our servers are holding up.
And we're connected.
And we've connected over 40,000 phone calls to Congress and the White House just this morning.
That's not even counting other sites like Tumblr.
And most of all, spread the word.
It's not too late to participate.
So this is...
Very, very disturbing.
EFF on their homepage also had this bullcrap slow down the net.
And so I believe that this Fight for the Future outfit, that they are most likely financed by Comcast Time Warner.
Because they are giving, effectively, they are giving Comcast Time Warner what they want by...
Trying to get net neutrality in Section 706...
Turned into a common carrier.
Interpreted in a certain way so that the Internet becomes a common carrier, yes.
Yes.
But ISPs become the common carrier.
And I think that that only behooves Comcast, etc., and Time Warner.
I think it does, too.
I think it blocks other people.
It blocks everyone out of the debate.
Yeah, no one wants to compete to become a commodity utility.
Who wants that?
Your margins eventually get set in stone.
And the other thing, you always have to remember that the FCC is dominated by industry and what happens is Comcast dominates the FCC and they make rules that benefit them.
That would include the stuff they've already been doing on the side in many states where it prohibits municipalities from setting up their own Internet services in the areas that are underserved by Comcast and AT&T and the rest of them.
Those have been prohibited in 20 states.
Which is an outrage.
An outrage.
Not only an outrage, but it's expensive for them to do it state by state when they can do it nationally.
So you run the FCC.
You don't have to spend all that money.
You have to do state by state to screw anyone who wants to compete with you, which is what they've been doing.
But now that it's government, now that it's centrally located, now it's all done by edict at the FCC level.
Ha!
Think of the money you save.
So let me read EFF's statement.
And I'm so disappointed.
These are lawyers.
They should know what is going to happen, which we'll get to in a moment.
From their page with their slowdown.
You know the net neutrality conversation is breaking new ground when even the porn sites are weighing in.
And that's just what we're seeing.
Major adult platforms Pornhub and RedTube are joining an online protest calling for stronger protections for net neutrality.
It'll serve them right when they're out of business.
So I got a lot of feedback on the question, what is the difference between illegal and unlawful?
And I need to preface this by saying that in every version of the rules that are proposed, and also in the version of the rules, which is almost identical, that were proposed by the mayors of America, whatever that association is called, we also dissected that document on the show.
There is continuous talk, and I think I might even have...
Let me just see.
I think I have the...
I thought I had a version of the text, but it doesn't really matter.
If you just pull this up, I have a link in the show notes.
It continuously states throughout the document that...
All packets will be created equal.
Bullcrap.
Can't even happen.
It doesn't matter.
But here's the worrisome thing.
And people, you must listen to this.
This is the beginning of the end if this gets through.
Where ISPs are forbidden from slowing down or blocking any lawful content or lawful network traffic, very important to understand that network traffic Doesn't even have to do with the content.
This can be just determined that, oh, I don't know, certain types of packets will be considered, or certain types of protocols may be deemed unlawful.
And what is the difference between illegal and unlawful?
I have a number of...
Explanations.
And I really like this one.
So Black's Law Dictionary defines unlawful...
Excuse me.
Flu.
Unlawful...
Yeah, I do.
Unlawful is not authorized by law.
Illegal is forbidden by law.
So, semantically, there's a slight difference.
Here's some examples.
Jaywalking is an unlawful act because traffic regulations do not typically say you can't walk diagonally through an intersection.
So it's not illegal that it's unlawful.
Traffic regulations typically provide you can cross within the crosswalk, etc.
Selling cocaine is illegal.
That's an actual offense.
So, it is very similar to if you get on a train somewhere and it says, it is unlawful to eat or play music in this train, you can get into real trouble, but it's not illegal in the universe to eat.
Even on a train, really.
So this will give, by specifically using the word unlawful instead of illegal, we will be able to ban hate speech, which of course is complete violation of almost any constitution in the world, but certainly the United States Constitution.
You can ban...
Bullying.
So if you're, you know, bullying would be seen as unlawful.
There are some places where there, it certainly is not specifically allowed.
And this is what will happen if, and no one is covering this angle of it that I know of.
I've not heard a single, EFF, an organization of lawyers are not parsing what this will mean.
I don't understand.
It must be part of the iPhone, the Facebook sickness.
How can people not see that this will regulate the actual content and even protocol, possibly, of network traffic on the internet?
And how can they say that's okay just because they want someone to have a better, cooler service than Netflix?
Are you kidding?
It's disturbing.
It's weird.
But you know, the sickness thing is interesting because...
Thank you.
The sickness thing is interesting because it's just not at this level.
It is...
I mean, it's all over the place with this lockstep acceptance of anything.
Global warming is a really good example of this.
I mean, you have these two sides of an argument.
One says the oceans are going to be...
It's very similar.
You're right.
It's very similar.
They're going to be 10 feet.
Oddly enough, it began maybe in the 70s as they started training people.
But for some reason, with the new technologies, it may be the acceptance of these technologies.
You may actually be Determining that the technologies are creating the sickness, but the sickness may have been there, and that's what's made the technology so acceptable.
I mean, that's a possibility.
I think it's human DNA and conditioning of our brain over decades.
It has to be at least 60 years.
Earlier, earlier.
Madness.
But let's go to the 70s population.
Everybody was all in.
On population control.
We're going to all die by the year 2000 because of population problems.
Explosion.
Population explosion.
Let's play the clip.
This is from Democracy Now!
This is their lame take on the internet speed-up situation.
Or internet slowdown, I'm sorry.
Okay, got it.
Without discrimination.
And today is a culmination of a lot of that effort.
How many organizations or websites do you have participating in today's?
Who's asking the questions?
That's not Amy.
No, that's that strange, dead-eyed looking Latino woman.
She almost sounds British.
Yeah, she's got one of those affectated voices.
I don't think she is British.
But this is the guy who's the head of the, whatever that group was you just mentioned.
Take back the net.
Well, we'll know by the end of the day, I can tell you right now that there are hundreds of tech companies, advocacy organizations, and websites that are displaying, as you call it, the spinning wheel of death.
And so, but it's important that the Internet will not be slowing down as a result of that, although one website might slow down, and that is the website of the Federal Communications Commission, which will be receiving a lot of the activism.
And the last time we had a moment like this was in mid-July, when there were a lot of people commenting at their website, and it, in fact, crashed.
We don't want to crash the FCC website today.
We want comments to come in.
We want them to receive them.
We want them to listen to them.
And we want them to listen to the overwhelming consensus among the public that real net neutrality protections are needed.
Netflix spokesperson Anne-Marie Scao issued a statement confirming the site will display the spinning icon on its homepage today.
She said, quote, consumers, not broadband gatekeepers, should pick the winners and losers on the Internet's.
Strong net neutrality rules are needed to stop internet service providers from demanding extra fees or slowing delivery of content to consumers who already have paid for internet access.
I love how they've successfully turned it around from fast lanes to slowing other things down.
This is brilliant the way they've done that, which was never the conversation.
I know.
I find this fascinating myself, which is the...
You explained it perfectly.
We have changed.
The other thing didn't work as well as planned because Fastlane, Slowlane, it just was too confusing.
This is better because this is, you know.
Everyone knows Slow.
Everyone understands Slow.
Yeah, they don't understand.
The other thing, the Fastlane, Slowlane was confusing because Comcast, for example, would have a business connection.
Yeah, they sell you a Fastlane, yeah.
100 plus megabits per second, or you can buy a home service for 50 or whatever.
And people would say, people are already paying for the fast lane.
What about my phone?
It wasn't working.
At some cerebral level, it wasn't working.
This works better.
Now, Tim, this is very interesting that Netflix is one of those participating, because Netflix really highlighted the problem for so many as they made a deal.
She says because.
Yeah, she says because.
Because.
Not because.
Because.
This is another part of the sickness.
I have some more examples of that.
And I'm guilty of it.
I say member sometimes instead of remember.
Because.
Because.
Listen to because.
Hey, because.
It's not professional.
Slowing delivery of content to consumers who already have paid for internet access.
Now, Tim, this is very interesting that Netflix is one of those participating, because Netflix really highlighted the problem for so many as they made a deal to have faster, to be on one of those fast lanes and paying Comcast so that Netflix can stream more easily.
Yes, and it's a very good illustration of the type of companies that are...
Stop for a second.
Netflix agreed to or paid for a peering arrangement because Comcast wasn't going to put their Netflix appliances on stream like everybody else has done.
So they made a special arrangement to get peering.
There's no fast lane, slow lane involved here.
It's just the connections changed.
But I think you and I can agree this has nothing to do with that.
This is all about...
I just want to make sure that technically that we know...
I just want to make it clear that technically these people are completely out of it.
Let me give you...
Well, these people have no idea what they're talking about.
From our global intelligence network, Void Zero says, oh, here's some examples of unlawful network traffic, mesh networking, peer-to-peer, And even things like multicasting, anycasting, IPv6 has versions of this.
If there's a technical analyst anywhere in the world who has...
I challenge the EFF, I challenge the lawyers at the EFF to write an opinion statement on the rules about unlawful content and unlawful network traffic.
And try and explain your way out of that.
What is more important?
Technically, and from a legal standpoint, you should shun EFF. Never give money to these people again.
These are frauds.
If they do not see this, they are frauds.
They're so all in on this.
This again, it's almost baffling to witness it.
And the network neutrality thing, with all these people that come in with zero understanding of the way anything works...
It's the same people who are doing phone talk.
Oh, there's a watch!
And there's net neutrality!
And they're women, I have to say.
Unfortunately, a lot of them are women, too, which pisses me off.
Well, I don't see too many women thumping the drum for net neutrality, but okay.
Okay, I see it.
Okay, let's finish.
...protesting the FCC plan.
Comcast, for example, has a competing business with Netflix.
They provide us with cable television.
So it is in their interest, as an Internet service provider, to slow websites like Netflix.
But it's not just large companies.
It is so nice!
Not in their interest.
That would be blatantly anti-competitive, and there are plenty of laws to deal with that.
Bull crap.
These are like Netflix that are participating.
There are Vimeo, which is a great video streaming website that a lot of documentary filmmakers use.
Etsy, which connects artisans and craftspeople with their customers.
By the way, people should not go to Etsy after they pull this stunt.
I want to clear another thing up, just a technical detail, which is that Comcast, I don't know, if anybody has Comcast, they know one thing for sure.
It's very difficult to get internet only because for the same price you can get their cable.
So that's not a competitive issue.
The competitive issue technically, if you talk to people about these Netflix platforms, Appliances, which is what this is really about at some level, and we're all defending Netflix because it's the most important thing in the world, is that Comcast has a video on demand service that is similar to Netflix, and that's what the competitive thing is.
And they are pretty much giving it priority over Netflix for non-competitive reasons.
But there's other ways of going about dealing with that.
It's got nothing to do with the cable TV that I can assure you.
Look, this is about the merger between Time Warner and Comcast.
We've played their commercials.
You're going to have a freer, more open, more reliable internet.
This initially really started, I think, with this to get this merger through.
Then how, you know, if you combine it all and it's all one big utility, then everything's groovy.
And then all this unlawful...
Content and network traffic showed up in the proposed rules.
That is, to me, above anything.
I don't care if it takes you five hours to download this show, because we're in the slow lane, which I'm sure will be determined by deep packet inspection.
And I don't care.
But...
If I'm blocked because of hate speech, because I call people watermelon head or whatever, cripple, or misogyny, that's not okay.
And that's where it's headed.
And that along with, and I'll say it again, podcast licensing, blog licensing.
You need a license to do this.
Yeah, that'll be the way to do it.
Which is always headed to trying to license journalism.
Unfortunately, you still have to deal with the Bill of Rights in that regard.
But I don't think they have to necessarily with podcasting.
Once the FCC gets a hold of the Internet, I mean, it's not as though if you're NBC and you have a network, you don't have to reapply for licenses constantly, and they're always looking over, well, you had a few violations here, you showed a tit.
You know, oh, somebody said dick.
Oh, you know, we're going to have to fine you a little bit.
This is the same thing that's going to happen to people who run websites.
There's going to be an overseer, it's going to be the FCC, you're going to need a license to produce stuff.
You're unlicensed.
It's going to be just like your ham radio guys are pushed off into a little area where they can do a little broadcasting now and again.
But even if you're a ham, you can't do all kinds of things.
You're limited by...
This is a great analogy, John.
A great analogy.
Exactly.
Ham radio, which requires studying, taking a test, and it's not all that difficult.
Look, I did it.
Your free speech...
Is restricted 100% on ham radio.
You do not have free speech.
You are restricted from...
What's the...
Lascivious, I believe, is the word they use.
That's one of them.
I'm just thinking of the actual rules.
You can't say...
You can't cuss if you're a ham.
And you can't sell anything.
You can't promote anything.
Not true.
You're allowed to sell your own gear and offer that to people who you're talking to.
Yeah, well, you know what we mean by you can't sell anything.
So that's the model.
Yeah, and once the FCC gets a hold of the internet, which is what everyone seems to want, the big push on net neutrality is give it to the FCC. Let them write some laws to protect us.
You're going to be really sorry.
It won't be tomorrow, by the way, but 10 years from now, the net's going to look a lot different.
Yeah.
And there's no stopping this net neutrality thing.
We can complain all we want.
You and I. It's happening.
And the two other guys that seem to understand this thing.
Who are the two other guys?
Who's the two other guys?
Well, Andrew Orlowski over at the Register has been harping on this forever.
But has he been talking about the...
I don't think he wrote about the unlawful versus illegal.
I don't think so.
He may or may not have.
And anyone who's writing about this has zero, zero understanding of the Internet.
No, it is mass hysteria.
Even if you have some understanding.
It's the sickness.
Don't take away our Netflix and Facebook.
So that's it.
It's part of the illness.
We've got to figure this out.
We've got to come up with a word.
We really do.
We will.
We will.
Well, why don't we just hold on for one second.
As we've now gone through all our tech news, I feel dirty.
We're doing tech news.
Tech news.
Tech news.
You didn't say the tech news jingle.
You know, I'm having a...
Is this the tech news jingle?
There's something wrong with...
I can't seem to be...
Anyway, sorry.
I don't know.
I don't have the tech news jingle.
It seems to be gone.
Yeah, this is very bad.
Tech, tech, tech.
I don't have a tech.
This is gone.
I don't know what to say.
But I do want to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
In the morning to you, Adam Curry, and also in the morning to all the ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and all the knights out there.
In the morning to everyone in the chat room, noagendastream.com.
Good to have you human resources here and in attendance.
Then in the morning to our artistes who are providing fabulous art.
I believe we pulled an evergreen for the last episode from Sterling Morton.
Yeah, it was an oldie, but a goodie.
Because there was a lot of good art, but nothing really...
Yeah, some of it was off-topic.
It was hard to...
This is what happens.
We either have too much art that we have to really fight over, or there's nothing that quite clicks.
And in this case, nothing quite clicked, and we had to go deep into the evergreen archives to find this piece that we used.
But these things really do make the difference.
It is...
I always smile when I open up my podcast app and then I see that our art has changed.
It looks good.
It just looks good.
And it's hard.
It's hard to have new art for every episode.
And just because you are the producers, we have this.
And of course, eventually the artists will have to be licensed with an FCC-approved sticker.
On their forehead.
So they'll have to do that and put the sticker on the individual artwork.
This one was approved by the public.
Anyway, I want to thank a few executive producers and associate executive producers.
Ladies and gentlemen, this contest is scheduled for one fall.
Making its way to the ring.
Weighing 333 pounds.
Here's the round.
You've got to get no USA. Sir.
David.
Always.
Woo!
There he is!
Foley!
Foley.
David Foley, who we haven't heard from for a couple of shows, came in with $668.66, which is a variation on our Reagan alternative donation of $668.
And he went to the...
Make up one as you go along box and put that in.
It was very creative.
And I want to say something, by the way.
We have three executive producers and three associate executive producers for a balanced show.
Can I just say one thing about his donation?
That he also now, of course, receives the hollow book, the matching from freehollowbooks.com.
Right.
And he'll appreciate that.
Yeah.
They're great.
Yeah.
I have a couple of them and I use them.
Yeah, I know.
For your drugs.
ITM, gentlemen, please find my value for value compensation.
Even though the show that you provide twice a week more than justifies the donation, how can one resist when you throw in a protest?
I think that's what he meant.
Throw...
Anyway, double producer credits and a hollow book.
Exactly.
I'm going to give him some karma.
And a hollow book.
You've got karma.
From Concord, California, up the road for me, $432.10.
Hey, idiot, from Atlas McDowell.
Isn't that the Rubicon company?
Yeah, I think so.
By the way, he took Rubicon off.
Oh, of course.
It's way too good.
Are you kidding?
I thought that was really strange that he would do that.
Ho, ho.
Hi, ho, Howard and Robin.
It's Hey, Idiot.
Just couldn't stop myself from completing my knighthood today after the recent string of excellence from the best podcast in the universe.
You guys are killing it.
And just about three people in the audience will get that joke.
I think a lot of people will get that joke.
Along with the Do-Nation, D-O-G-H, Nation, I wanted to mention something, perhaps lame, perhaps profound, about the ground truth meme.
From Words Matter, people say what they really mean, a viewpoint.
Couldn't ground truth also represent that lower grade of truth that truth butchers produce when they run the cheaper cuts and awful OFFAL stuff through the means of guts, through the truth grinder?
When you hear ground truth, let's be thinking along the lines of ground beef.
I like the idea.
Also requests, as an IT support dude named Ben, I've been using JCD's You Will Obey as the ringtone for the on-call cell phones we share here at the support desks.
And hilarity always ensues when one goes off.
I would like to step that up a notch with a new ringtone, so kindly give me a...
You want to do this for him?
You have to put the echo on.
Oh, what are we doing?
Do you need Echo?
He wants, buy more kale, you will obey.
I have that one.
It's a pre-mix.
I got that.
Oh, you got it.
Okay, well, buy more kale, you will obey.
Followed by, I'm the rule follower.
Okay, this is what he wants to do, just to play this stuff.
I thought he wanted us to record something new.
I'm a rule follower with Boomshakalaka Chaser.
Please knight me a Sir Idiot of Atlas McDowell.
Okay.
Okay.
I think I got just about everything.
Let's give it a shot.
And we'll do some karma there as well.
I presume that he wants that.
So, have more kale.
Have more kale.
Have more kale.
You will obey.
You will obey.
I'm a rule follower, so if the rule is that we have to do it, then I'll do it.
Blue chocolate.
Boom, chakalaka! Bingo! Boom, boom, chakalaka! Boom, boom, boom, chakalaka! Boom, boom, boom!
You've got karma.
Oh, yeah.
I'm not good.
Well, that was worth $432.10.
Hell, yeah.
Sir Don...
Sorry, what?
If he needs me to blow him, I'll come on.
That's fine, too.
Let's see.
But I only do in-calls.
So they have to go to Austin?
Yeah.
Okay, Sir Don...
Okay, now I got an email from, I bet.
Sir Don DiTomaso DiToronto.
Yes.
I can't remember.
What is his email?
SirDondiTomaso DiToronto at Gmail.
It would be in the email.
It's something else in his email.
Yeah.
I can give it a shot.
I'll look for it and we'll play it in the second break.
Okay.
But he has something to say.
I can assure you he has something to say.
$411.33 from Kettleby, Ontario.
Yael Osowski.
Osowski.
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I would say Yael, probably.
Yael.
Yael.
A-L maybe?
A-L? No, A-L, I know that's spelled differently.
246.50 from St.
Petersburg, Florida.
The donation puts me three-fourths of the way toward full knighthood, four years in the making.
That means I've donated from the time I was a poor student to now as a Koch Brother-funded journalist.
Cue the jingle.
Where are they?
Duke Brothers!
I'm in Scotland at the moment reporting on the referendum.
Yes.
As a Quebecois, I'm used to seeing failed referendums, but this one seems a bit different.
Is it referendums or referenda?
I have no idea.
It's a great way for the little guy to stick it to the big guy.
Simple as that.
For my dedicated pub research, anyone who isn't an elite is voting yes.
We'll have some dispatches from the ground published soon.
Send us some information as this develops, because there's all kinds of dubious reports coming out that this is going to not pass, which makes zero sense to me, since the Scots have been bitching about the British rule for 400 years.
This is their Braveheart moment.
They're going to go for it.
Well, they better.
They're bored.
They've got nothing better to do.
They've got work.
They had nothing better to do.
Anonymous from Milford, Michigan, $222.22, and he wants to tell you that Tawny Katane is in the hood.
Is on the hood.
Oh, she's on the hood.
I thought she was in the hood.
I had a crush on her when she was on the hood.
And then she married David Coverdog.
Okay.
Jeffrey Fitch in Winter Garden, Florida, $222 flat.
Please send me some test-taking karma.
Much obliged.
You bet.
No problem.
Happy to hand that to you.
You've got karma.
And that will be our Executive Producers and Associate Executive Producers Show 651.
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Well, yeah, there's a lot.
Another thing I need to mention, when I left the Netherlands, the day I left, the Dutch Incident Advisory Board, I think that's what they're called, They came out with their preliminary report of MHC. The Downing.
I don't know.
Who made up this?
We have to say Downing.
Downing.
Downing.
It's just...
It's a fuzzy word.
That along with Shoot Down.
Yeah.
Well, Shoot Down would be more accurate.
They came out with their preliminary report.
And even before it was released, the Telegraph, the big...
Morning newspaper that all the slaves read.
They had a huge headline.
I'm talking one, two, probably four, five inch high headline.
Russian shot.
First.
Something like that.
It doesn't really translate.
The Russians shot, as in they shot.
So the report hadn't even come out.
And then the second paragraph, it says, well, it appears that maybe this came from Russia, but we don't really know until the report comes out today.
But the headline, on the day the report came out, which they knew, shows such complicit behavior with...
The messaging that the government is trying to put onto Europe and the Dutch people, it was bile raising.
And the report has no information.
There's technical information that there was nothing of any value on the flight data recorder or the cockpit voice recorder.
Everything seemed to be functioning normally.
And then, you know, at the same time on both devices, there's just nothing left, which means there was no distress calls, nothing.
They did not.
I despise a little that they translated the into Dutch, the ATC controller speaking to the to the traffic during just before the incident.
I would rather hear the actual audio.
I have a problem with that.
And the only thing they concluded is that there was a massive, I think the exact word was explosive event from the outside of the aircraft, which suffered structural damage after projectiles ripped through the fuselage and the cockpit at high velocity.
Well, okay, we know how these surface-to-air missiles work.
They explode nearby, and shrapnel shoots out, and then the whole thing falls apart.
But that was it.
Then now it was, oh, okay, well, it'll be another year before they come out, and even that.
We still don't have the last 28 missing pages from the 9-11 Commission report, so please, 13 years later.
So that was disturbing.
And then as I'm sitting, I've gone through my security, and I'm sitting, again, observing people.
There are two Dutch girls, maybe late 30s.
Then they're on the iPads, and you can just hear the sickness in them.
Oh, look at this.
Oh, look at this.
Oh, look at this photo.
And then one says, whoa, can you believe this?
And the other woman says, oh, no, I've just chosen to completely ignore it.
I just don't want to deal with it anymore.
And this is now what's happening.
And part of it is...
Well, that actually goes deeper than just that one person.
I think when you have somebody reporting on the beheadings and refusing to watch the video, that's the exact same thing.
It's the same phenomenon.
Let's get into our segment here.
ISIS, ISIS, baby.
ISIS, ISIS, baby.
Good work, Paul the book guy.
That was very funny.
So, I had this fever, and I'd already done a lot of clips and work in the afternoon, but I'm feeling it now a little bit too.
I'll have to take some ibuprofen or something to get the fever.
I might have Ebola, some hemorrhagic fever.
Maybe pick that up.
I'm watching the setup and the spin going into President Obama's rare primetime speech.
Oh, very rare.
And I think what these guys are doing, and of course this was a forced hand move for the president, they're probably looking at Twitter, because this seems what everyone is doing.
Oh, Twitter must be true.
And they're not seeing the president's name trend or anything about a speech.
So they start selectively releasing quotes so the news whores can start talking about it.
And then...
The statistics.
Now, the statistics are very interesting.
There was an NBC Wall Street Journal poll, which when I heard Erin Burnett say this, which is what it's going to be.
She just jumped ahead on the message.
Then I will tell you what the poll actually said.
What good is the statistics of a poll anyway?
But here's what she said.
Watch some of the American people.
We were showing that piece from Deb for a purpose, too, so people could see some of the videos, some of the atrocities that ISIS has committed, these videos they've put out there.
94% of Americans say that they saw the beheading videos.
They were aware of the beheadings of James Foley and Steve Sotloff.
Okay.
94% of Americans saw the video?
Yeah, I don't think so.
No, that's it.
It's a lie.
That is a lie.
The actual study says 94% of Americans were aware of the beheading video.
Very few have actually seen it.
They are now leading the president.
Americans are now prepared for...
This is a lie.
Americans are not leading the president.
...military conflict.
Is this country being led into war because of those videos?
I don't care.
Yes, yes, because of these videos.
Yes.
I agree.
And let's listen to the president.
That's the only quote I pulled from his...
Oh, wait a minute.
I think I had the opening, which was kind of funny.
Oh, no.
Here it is.
Here's the only 35 seconds of the president's speech that I think mattered because I found it peculiar and also believe this may be untruthful.
In a region that has known so much bloodshed...
And by the way, who chose the location for this primetime speech?
Who decided to put him in the echo chamber?
Yeah, the micing could have been better.
The micing could have been better.
I found it not to be present.
This is 2014.
How come this guy doesn't come out, hip that shit up, give me some maps, draw some, get one of those screens like they use at CNN. Why does he have to be so...
If you really want to communicate a message you want people to listen to, this is what I would advise.
Get one of those touch screens like they have at CNN. And he should be saying, look, here it is, and here's how they magically fly over into America and kill us all.
You know, they're coming back.
Whatever bullcrap he's spouting.
But this needs to be hipped up.
This is dumb.
This is just totally dumb.
In a region that has known so much bloodshed, these terrorists are unique in their brutality.
They execute captured prisoners.
They kill children.
They enslave, rape, and force women into marriage.
Now, what is this force women into marriage business?
India does that too.
Yeah, but India does that.
Since this is not a new...
Well, it's new for the list, but why?
These people don't do anything...
I think this is maybe a very subtle dig at India, too.
Don't forget, in the background, we've concluded, I think you've agreed with me, that there's a little thing going on with India.
Well, that's part of it, then, because this is not just ISIS. Let me just finish this, because...
I want to stop you for a second.
Just for 20 seconds!
I know, but there's something you said that we're going to lose track of it.
All right, go.
Which is, when exactly are we going to see a multimedia president?
Or even running for office?
They're still holding up whiteboard placards on easels in Congress.
Anyway, I want to talk about this some more, but finish your 20 seconds, because I think you've touched on something that's not being addressed at all.
They enslave, rape, and force women into marriage.
They threaten the religious minority with genocide.
And in acts of barbarism, they took the lives of two American journalists, Jim Foley and Stephen Sotloff.
So ISIL poses a threat to the people of Iraq and Syria and the broader Middle East, including American citizens, personnel, and facilities.
If left unchecked, these terrorists could pose a growing threat beyond that region, including to the United States.
At 8.14pm, which would be 15 minutes into this, or about 11 minutes into this speech, I go look at what's trending on Twitter.
Top three.
Uncarrier7, a tweet promoted by T-Mobile.
Number two.
Ray Rice.
And number three, Apple Watch.
So these people can't...
The public does not...
Care.
And I kept looking back, and we can even look right now.
You'd expect with all of this coverage, certainly there would be something by now that this would be trending.
Let's go take a look.
Let's see.
Where do I find this on this stupid website?
Where's the trending stuff?
Trending.
Oh, trends.
Okay, we have trends.
Sunday Million, whatever that is, promoted by DraftKings, another commercial.
Apple Watch, Ray Rice, Oscar trial.
The douchebag in South Africa.
Never forget September 11, 9-11 anniversary, Scotland, IDF 14, Windows 9, and Riva.
Obama, ISIS, ISIL speech, not even on the radar.
And it was Franklin Roosevelt who, when he did his fireside chats, which he was famous for, I guess, was he the first president that really used the media in that conversation?
In that capacity?
Yeah, absolutely.
The fireside chat was a big deal.
It was an invention.
It was using modern technology, which is not, again, getting back to that point, he's using modern technology of the era to get his messages across.
I should have pulled the actual audio, but it's uncanny when you listen to what he says, and this is from...
This is an oldie that I'm not sure exactly when this is from, but the present greats here.
This war is a new kind of war.
It is different from all other wars of the past, not only in its methods and weapons, but also in its geography.
It is warfare in terms of every continent, every island, every sea, every air lane in the world.
Is this Roosevelt?
Yes.
Okay, what year?
I think it's 40...
It'd have to be after Pearl Harbor, but go ahead.
Hold on, let me check.
It is February 23rd, 1942.
Yeah.
And then he says, that is the reason why I have asked you to take out and spread before you a map of the whole earth and to follow me with the references which I shall make to the world encircling battle lines of this war.
Many questions will, I fear, remain unanswered tonight, but I know you will realize that I cannot cover everything in one short report to the people.
So in 1942, he was really using the technology of the day.
There were people lined out drug stores and stationary stores around the block to buy globes and maps because the president said, I want to explain to you how this works.
This is another part of the sickness.
All we know is the two centimeters on your watch, your Apple Watch, or the 4.7 inches screen that Google...
Maps is showing you when to turn right or left.
People rarely zoom out.
If they do, then they're confused.
Google Universe!
Oh, I'm on the moon!
But rarely, rarely do people look.
Look at these things.
Just look.
Look at the map.
It's interesting.
Now, this brings back the point again that I'm obviously going to obsess about for a couple of shows.
Why can't it be like Tim Collins of Apple or Tom Cook?
What's his name?
Yeah, yeah.
That would be good.
He does a beautiful PowerPoint or pages presentation.
Well, there's no reason that any candidate can't do this.
And if you remember, well, you won't remember, you're probably not old enough, but when Ross Perot ran...
For president.
And all of a sudden, almost managed to get 20% of the vote.
Yeah, I remember.
He was using little drawings.
He would get on TV. He bought these ads.
He'd get on TV and he'd hold up a cardboard, little piece of cardboard.
It's like what they do in Congress, only they were maybe probably more detailed.
And he would show these things to the public.
He said, look, this is what's happening and this is what's going on.
And he would at least do that much.
Just doing that.
And I watched these and I thought they were very compelling.
If you take that to the next level and actually go to some serious modern presentations to get your point across, I think you could totally get a huge audience and you could really manipulate the public a lot better than these boring speeches where he comes walking up.
He walks up funny anyway, and it's very distracting to see him do it.
He comes up to like a squirrel, like when he comes down to Air Force One, you notice he's got his hands in front of him.
Squirrel!
Yeah, it looks a little bit like Montgomery Burns.
Over makeup.
Over makeup.
And made up to death.
Way over makeup.
Made to, yeah, really made up with the pancake.
Well, I can tell you why this is not going to happen.
Because, notice I said because, not cause.
He cannot walk and chew gum at the same time.
I believe it is impossible for this president to read prompter.
And it's a trick.
You know, it's not easy.
It's like weathermen do it.
TV news people know how to do it.
I know how to do it.
John, you know how to do it.
You can look at the book.
If he looks away from the prompter, he's confused and he loses his place.
It was a it was we would call this after this.
And I think this was prerecorded.
I don't even believe that this was live.
We would say the read was so so.
That's how we would say it in the television business.
Read was not like good read.
No, he stumbled.
You could hear a lot because this was the center-placed teleprompter.
Right.
Which he's not really comfortable with.
Because he's always doing the side-to-side glass plates.
So it may be, you know, it's just a different thing to be reading from.
I do not believe he can point to a presentation or a map and read at the same time.
I don't think that's good.
No, it's not easy to do.
Really interesting theory.
I'd like to see him do it.
My theory is that the advisors and the people that run these old politicals that run all these operations, the guys behind the scene, are so old-fashioned that they wouldn't even think of this.
No, you're right.
You might be right about it.
Your thesis might be correct.
He maybe can't walk and chew gum and he couldn't do this.
But that's beside the point.
I don't think he would ever be given the opportunity because I don't think any of these staffers, these Valerie Jarrett's and these sorts of people think like that.
They're old-fashioned.
Half of them...
No, no.
That, you know, that's neither here nor there.
I tweeted this.
I said, could the president just use some maps?
It would spice up the presentation?
We might care.
Of course, people who have half a brain will see through the bull crap that these ISIL people are not magically going to jump around.
In fact, this is pretty funny.
So, here, let me just...
This is, you're going to get a laugh out of this.
What was proposed...
Well, while you're looking at that, I do have a clip, which I found unusual.
After his speech, a local news station actually did an analysis, which I rarely see.
It's usually done by the networks.
But they brought a guy in from the Hoover Institution who made some interesting commentary, but he also dropped in a couple of buzz terms I've never heard before.
Sorry.
Play?
Yes, play.
Okay.
Well, Mr.
Hendrickson, the key to this obviously has to be the intelligence.
Do we have the intel network to pull off these intricate strikes in Syria?
No, not presently.
We had much better, very good intelligence when the United States was at war with thousands of troops Who is this person?
Who is this analyst?
It's a guy from the Hoover Institution.
He's pulling together every little bit of information and then being very good at getting it out quickly to the forces that were going to implement attacks.
Exactly.
I want to talk about the president's strategy.
He's saying that he doesn't want to add any U.S. boots on the ground.
How realistic is this?
If we look back at the past when U.S. forces were trading Iraqi forces, how realistic do you think This would be, his strategy would be.
Well, it's a short-term strategy.
I don't think he kept mentioning that he wanted to degrade and defeat the ISIL or ISIS or the Islamic State.
On the other hand, you can only do so much with air.
You can blow up some vehicles.
You can blow up a troop concentration.
But if the insurgents, the terrorists, go to ground, if they hide out, they'll be extremely hard to get out.
And we had enormous forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, but it still required boots on the ground, soldiers doing all sorts of things to ferret out the enemy.
I have some clips of analysts as well, which I found to be hilarious.
I just want to go back to this clip that I now found.
This is Senator Poe.
Senator Poe?
Congressman Poe?
I think it's Senator Poe.
And he has introduced some legislation, which is what we have talked about on this show.
No one really reporting on this.
Mr.
Speaker, ISIS is continuing its murderous rampage on Christians, Jews, and Muslims in Syria and Iraq.
America needs to go dismantle, disrupt, and defeat ISIS. Victory should be the goal.
ISIS has arrogantly beheaded two Americans and sent the murder videos all over the world.
And now they say they're coming to America to kill us.
Once a small band of bandit thugs fighting the Syrian Civil War, these cutthroat terrorists have fighters from many nations, including the United States.
Aha!
What are we going to do?
When Americans go and take up arms with foreign terrorist organizations like ISIS, when they go and give aid and comfort to America's enemies, their passports should be revoked.
So tonight I introduce legislation that would prohibit the Benedict Arnold ISIS fighters from the United States from re-entering our country.
The bill is called the FTO Passport Revocation Act.
American traders who go to war against America are not welcome back in our land.
Their passports should be revoked.
Further, ISIS fighters must be held accountable for their terror, and we should track them down and make the consequences of their terror Unpleasant.
And that's just the way it is.
I yield back.
Douchebag.
Okay, let's first of all make sure that we...
He's a House member from Texas.
He's not a senator.
House.
Just to clarify that.
He's one of those guys.
Dumb fucks from Texas.
No offense.
No, no, no.
Well, you know, I suggested this myself.
But what's interesting, of course, is this place...
Can you take away Snowden's passport?
Exactly.
But then you also pointed out that you can't actually do that.
So the Yale Law Journal wrote that this is unconstitutional and cannot be done because there is no law on the books that enables anyone to do this, and Congress would have to pass a law to enable this.
So at this moment...
As of this bill, Edward Snowden's passport has not been revoked.
And if someone says it is, then it is unconstitutionally so.
And I have H.R. 5408 here, which I'll just walk you through it for a moment.
The Terrorist Denaturalization and Passport Revocation Act.
And there's a lot of, you know, basically...
I'm sorry.
It adds and strikes from the Immigration and Nationality Act certain terms.
And I've highlighted a few.
You can always find it in the show notes.
In paragraph 4, by adding at the end of the line, accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment for an organization designated as a foreign terrorist organization pursuant to Section 219 after attaining the age of 18 years, if the office, post, or employment requires knowing engagement in hostilities against United States military or civilian personnel and...
Hmm.
Then they strike something else.
So they're very clear.
If you are doing anything with a designated terrorist organization, then your passport can be revoked.
The act entitled An Act to Regulate the Issue and Validity of Passports for Other Purposes approved July 3rd, 1926.
Commonly known as the Passport Act of 1926 is amended by adding at the end the following.
This is the one that is necessary according to the Yale School of Law.
Authority to deny or revoke passport and passport card.
Now, there is no authority to do this currently.
So it's bullcrap.
Issuance.
Except as provided under subsection B, the Secretary of State may not issue a passport or passport card to any individual whom the Secretary has determined is a member of an organization the Secretary has designated as a foreign terrorist organization pursuant to section 209.
The second revocation, the Secretary of State shall revoke a passport or passport card previously issued to any individual described in paragraph one.
Notwithstanding subsection A, the Secretary of State may issue a passport or passport card in emergency circumstances or for humanitarian reasons.
You've got to always have an out to an individual described in paragraph one.
So if for some reason we have humanitarian reasons, then we can have a terrorist keep their passport.
What circumstance would that be?
If there was really CIA, I guess.
I don't know.
Yeah, there you go.
So, it just shows that everyone buying into this being possible, certainly with Snowden, is wrong.
And they're trying to get this on the books.
Which, I think, is a big constitutional issue.
Because, you know, this Act of 1926...
It gives you the right to be able to identify yourself as an American outside of the U.S. borders.
So I also found the analysis interesting, and I got stuck watching, with my fever, watching CNN. And the first thing, I was appalled, blown away, disgusted by David, I want to bring in CNN's newest political commentator, President Obama's former Press Secretary Jay Carney.
Very happy that Jay is joining us.
Thanks for being here.
Jay, obviously, welcome to CNN. When you left your job as Press Secretary, could you have envisioned this president having to address the nation on primetime television about ISIS, particularly for this president who campaigned on ending the war in Iraq, getting out of Afghanistan?
In what journalistic organization is it okay to have a...
Press Secretary, who only left his post in June, now have a contract as an analyst for the journalistic organization.
This is not okay.
This is appalling.
To you.
Well, listen to how he talks.
To now be in the position.
He's still like he's talking from the podium.
Of essentially launching an open-ended military campaign.
Okay.
Well, I think the point you're making is absolutely accurate, that it is ironic, of course, given how this president was elected, the policies that he laid out, that he is having to do this.
But to answer your specific question, yes, I could envision it because I left in late June and the threat posed by ISIS was already apparent.
They had already moved dramatically across and into Iraq.
He just goes on and on and on.
It was kind of fun.
It's just like he's on the podium.
Yes!
And then, you know, everyone's talking about the Carney and McCain show because McCain came on and, you know, now that Carney is just a CNN guy.
But, of course, he's not.
I mean, he is like Stephanopoulos at ABC. He's a shill.
This is a shill for the Obama administration.
Now, hey, we need a guy on the circuit.
Yeah, I know.
Why don't you resign and we'll get you the job.
Jeff Zucker, he'll hook you up.
up, you give the million dollars a year, then just come on and just repeat whatever the president says and say, it's good.
It's all right.
And that's what he's doing.
Did you see this McCain and Carney show?
Is there now billing it?
No, no.
I'll play a little bit just just to give you the idea.
But because they're hyping it so much, I'm kind of disgusted.
I'm sure there's going to be a show now.
The the Carney and McCain show.
Well, McCain retired.
It was a very weak argument.
By the way, I'm astounded that Mr.
Carney should say that the Free Syrian Army is now stronger.
In fact, they've been badly damaged.
That's not what I said, Senator.
If I could, sir, what I said is that we know a great deal more about The makeup of the opposition.
Jay, we knew all about them then.
You just didn't choose to know.
I was there in Syria.
We knew them.
Come on, you guys are the ones.
It's your boss is the one that went...
Notice he uses the present tense, your boss.
Not from back then.
His new boss is CNN, but this is your boss.
The entire national security team wanted to arm and train them, but he turned them down, Mr.
Carney, after a...
Well, Senator, I think we have to agree to disagree on this.
When an analyst says, or a commentator says, we'll have to agree to disagree, no, that's not what you're hired for, Carney.
That's not, you're supposed to have an opinion and stick to it.
So it's saying, this is like from the podium, we'll have to agree to disagree.
No, facts are stubborn things, Mr.
Carney, and that is his entire national security team, including his Secretary of State, said we want to arm and train and equip these people, and he made the unilateral decision to turn them down.
And the fact that they didn't leave a residual force in Iraq, overruling all of his military advisors, is the reason why we're facing ISIS today.
So the facts are stubborn things in history, and people ought to know them.
And now the president is saying basic...
So this goes on for a while and they argue and it was...
Oh, it sounds dreadful.
And McCain was really happy at the end.
Now, I want to...
There's a couple things that happened here.
I'm making a prediction that McCain will go into the media.
Oh, yeah.
Well, he seems to be practicing.
So Newt Gingrich, who was also one of the analysts, I think he nailed it.
And then it was really funny to see what happened.
Watching this speech, his 30-second analysis is exactly what is short-circuiting everybody's brain, which I have some examples of.
This speech really struck me as we were sitting here talking.
You know, reality is a harsh teacher.
This speech is closer to a George W. Bush speech than it is to anything Barack Obama would have said between 2007 and this week.
I mean, go through this speech and tell me, what do you think Dick Cheney would not be willing to say that's in this speech?
It is a remarkable moment of a president who didn't want to be doing this, being trapped in a world...
Now, I like the speech.
I think it's a very powerful speech.
But it sure is not the Obama policy prior to tonight.
So it was funny to watch people's brain just go haywire.
It is so difficult for Democrats to acknowledge that their dream, their knight in shining armor is Bush.
It's just the same.
This is the breaking moment.
Bush three.
I don't know if she was drunk, if she was high, but I think her brain short-circuited.
And even her speech.
What is her credibility?
Where did she come from, this Donna Brazile?
She's from the Clinton administration.
She was like a kind of a Valerie Jarrett-type character.
And she's very credible in a lot of circles, especially liberal Democrat circles.
Well, it got so bad...
Well, first I'll play this opening salvo where you can see that she's confused, just confused, and her speech goes all nuts.
Because he recognizes that the country is weary of war.
For 13 years, millions and trillions of dollars spent, the president really, I think, challenged us to come together as a country to fight this threat.
No, he didn't.
To understand the nature of the threat.
I thought the objectives that he laid out tonight were very clear, very concise.
But I also thought his call to Congress, for Congress to get involved, to lend the resources, to make sure that this is just not the...
To lend the resources.
She doesn't even know how Congress works.
To make sure that this is just not the president's so-called war on ISIL, but the country itself.
I thought it was a good speech, a good beginning.
Hopefully Congress will pick up the phone and say, Mr.
President, I'm with you.
Let's get this.
Okay, so you don't say a good beginning, and Mr.
President, we're with you.
We're not with you.
You're with you, not with you.
So this is where I'm noticing...
There's some code going on here that I'm not absolutely convinced...
I'm convinced there's code, but I'm not...
I don't know what the code means, which is the president uses ISIL, the media uses ISIS, or they do the Islamic thing, or they do the triple, which is the marketing thing.
And she used ISIL. Now, there's something, there's like, you're part of some club if you say one thing, you're part of some other club if you say something else.
But I haven't really, I've noticed things, but I've not identified.
I have received a message from our global intelligence network from The military circles, and I've been informed that this is, if you're in the know, like you say Iraq, not Iraq, Iraq, if you're in the know, you say ISIL. If you're not in the know, you say ISIS.
And if you're in the know, you only say ISIL, which is great because we can always have a splinter group called ISIS and then another one called IS.
So we can rate this whole thing, just so we're all clear from my perspective, is the best way for the American economy.
This is exactly what we needed.
We need to ramp up the entire war machine and with our partners, the coalition of the willing.
Interestingly, the Dutch were not included.
And there was a, outrage that the Dutch...
And we had people going to Washington because...
The crap!
We need to sell some shit into this too!
You're gonna leave us hanging?
Everybody's...
This is a bonanza.
And the best thing is...
No Americans get killed!
This is fantastic!
We're going to have advisors.
This is going to be Academy, formerly known as Z, formerly known as Blackwater.
I have links to the website.
They're calling for contractors.
I'll give them props.
Pooper and Tapper.
That's a show for you.
Pooper and Tapper.
I thought they were quite good in managing these idiots in this roundtable discussion.
Listen to them mocking the advisors like we always do.
And it was very brief and very subtle, but then it never, of course, gets discussed.
I think the president also needs to explain to people, this is not without risk.
There's already 500 U.S. advisors on the ground.
No doubt there's going to be 100 more.
Right.
There's going to be 100.
Did you catch it?
Advisors.
And then Pooper goes, yeah, right.
We all know what it is.
It's contractors.
It's contractors who are going in and we're upgrading the idiot ISIS, ISIL guys that we had.
So they need to be killed and then these guys will be in and they'll just keep it going for years and years and years.
Let's go back to Donna Brazile.
She tries to explain why, because you can't explain it all away, why we pulled out and are going back in.
And her brain is fried.
But the Iraqi government did not want us to stay there with the kind of guarantees that they wanted from us.
We did not want to buy those conditions.
So Pooper's like, you moron!
And he jumps in.
And then even Gloria Borgia, everyone, and they're trying to teach her what's going on and tell her to shut up.
It's something that actually protects U.S. troops on the ground.
They had unreasonable conditions on American troops.
He believes an agreement could have been reached.
He wanted to go to Parliament or not.
Jake, Jake, yeah, go ahead.
If I could.
This short-circuiting.
She can't even speak normal.
Normally.
Here's Carol Costello.
You know I love her.
Carol CNN. This morning.
Good morning.
So Donna, there's a bit of irony here.
This president won election in part because of his anti-war stance, so here we are.
It's just kind of weird.
It's just kind of weird!
That's your analysis, Carol?
It's just kind of weird!
Should have honked the horn on her.
Yeah, I could have.
I have a clip here.
Let's play this.
I just thought this was interesting.
This is on Fox, because Fox is all in on this because they're all part of that industrial complex part of it.
U.S. public okay with bombing Syria, which is the latest thing.
...officials that the president will outline a three-phase campaign to destroy ISIS during his speech tomorrow.
And a third phase of that plan, which involves...
Hold on a second.
They're going to destroy ISIS during his speech?
Is that actually what was said?
That's what she said.
They're going to destroy ISIS during his speech.
Hold on a second.
Let me play that again.
That was good.
I missed that.
...officials that the president will outline a three-phase campaign to destroy ISIS during his speech tomorrow.
That's funny.
Good catch.
...morrow.
And the third phase of that plan, which involves airstrikes against ISIS in Syria, seems to have the backing of the American people, with 65% of Americans saying they support U.S. airstrikes in that war-torn country.
This is so wrong.
And they're just throwing these numbers out there.
You can't even log in.
You have to have a paywall membership for the Wall Street Journal to see their phony baloney service.
It is interesting to note that this number is up more than double the level of support for airstrikes in Syria more than a year ago when the regime was using chemical weapons.
And the last poll that I want to share reveals exactly how strongly Americans feel about ISIS and its threat to the United States, with 91% viewing the terror network as a vital threat to U.S. interests.
Okay, there's something I've got to mention here.
I don't know if you caught it.
But I find it deplorable, and there's nothing we can do about it.
We talk about this all the time.
But reintroducing a false meme to me is just...
It's criminal.
It's criminal, John.
It's criminal.
It's criminal.
And the false meme in this case, of course, is when they were using chemical weapons.
This has been debunked a million times by everyone.
They were not using chemical weapons.
The weapons were not their weapons.
It was too far away.
And there's been study after study that shows they weren't using chemical weapons, which is what they denied.
We did get rid of the chemical weapons, and they were a problem, but they weren't using them.
But she drops it in as though it's fact, even though it has been debunked.
But there, no.
We're going to go with the old memes because they work better on the stupid public, especially the viewers of Fox.
And we're going to use social networks and smartphones as our fact base.
Here's McCain entering into this territory as this is how things are true.
Senator McCain, the president also said that we have not yet detected specific plotting against our homeland.
Pooper was good.
He was asking the tough questions.
I think he's sick and tired of this crap, by the way.
Americans who hear those words might wonder if that is really the case, then why do we need to take action against ISIS? Now, wait for this answer.
So he has to now refute...
The clear evidence that no one is coming to beat us up and kill us here.
And by the way, Texas is ready, ISIL. Come on.
Come on, cross that border.
We're waiting for you.
That you say what?
I say that today we had a hearing and there was testimony from the counterterrorism people in the Department of Homeland Security.
There is Twitter traffic right now.
Twitter traffic.
Facebook traffic.
They're urging attacks on the United States of America.
Okay.
So that's it.
When is that new?
It's new for McCain.
For him to use this, there's Twitter traffic and Facebook traffic, but this is the problem.
Because of the sickness, people buy into it.
Oh, shit, man, they're posting on Twitter.
Twitter?
On Facebook, even on Facebook.
I mean, that's hard.
It must be true, it's on Twitter.
It's on Facebook, it's on Twitter, yeah.
And of course, this will take years, and here's Borgia, Gloria Borgia.
She's also a shill, isn't she?
She's married to someone...
We looked into her before.
So the president has to address both of those headwinds, if you will, as he tries to rally the country at this big moment.
He has to explain the complexity of this situation, because this isn't going to be like shock and awe, you know, in the first Gulf War.
This is going to be something that, as the congressman says, is going to take years and patience and intelligence.
And he has to let the American public know, you know, this isn't just going to be drop a few bombs and that's it.
No.
We have to drop a lot of bombs, and what a beautiful strategy.
I'm so proud.
Not a single American will die.
We'll have tons of contractors, advisors die, consultants.
No one cares.
They get paid a lot of money, too.
Oh, yeah.
That's why they do it.
There's hundreds of them dead in Ukraine.
They're the actual so-called opposition.
So this is perfect.
We continue to produce.
We've now forced everyone in NATO that everyone has to step up to their 2% of GDP, which a lot of countries are not even half that.
Then where does that money go?
Right into our pockets.
Raytheon, Boeing.
And we kill brown people in sandy areas.
No American troops.
This is what the drones has been about.
This is what it's been about.
We're still going to fire a $1 million Hellfire missile every second.
That's, you know, it's going to be great.
And everybody's in on it.
The Toyota, now we've noticed these Toyotas.
Yes.
This is annoying.
NPR had a big piece, which I would say...
Borders on, not native advertising, but product placement.
One of the modern tools of warfare for militants in Iraq, or anywhere really, is the pickup truck.
Perfect for carrying heavy loads with lots of room to mount weapons in the back.
And as we've reported before, one brand in particular, Toyota, is a favorite of rebels and militias the world over.
They should use that as a slogan.
The world over.
They should use that as a slogan.
Toyota, the choice of terrorists, the world over.
Recently, Toyota pickups were all over images from Libya as a coalition of militias there overran the capital Tripoli.
We're at a checkpoint on the outskirts of Tripoli.
You've got one, two, three, four pickups mounted with heavy artillery machine guns on the back.
All four of them are Toyotas.
That's kind of a throwback to 2011.
During the revolution, Toyotas were the ultimate rebel fighter's car, and they still...
It's the ultimate rebel fighter's car!
...are.
They're very powerful.
They'll tackle sand, road, off-road, whatever you want it to do, and it'll do it with the weapons on board, too.
It's perfect!
Most of the pickups sport some variation of anti-aircraft weapons.
Occasionally, long tubes pop out of the back.
Those are rocket or missile launchers.
Looks like a Batmobile.
All of the above are on display at the gate of a nearby militia base.
Fighters say they snatched the older pickups from Qaddafi forces.
Now, that was the old ones, but now we've got to move into the new ones that we're seeing on the Isolde videos.
They bought the newer ones from Toyota.
The carmaker opened his first dealership here in late 2010.
Let's open up a dealership.
This is a five-minute report on the Toyotas.
Yeah.
Yeah, open a dealership.
Hey, Rebel Fighters, come and get your Toyota here.
And we call Rebel Toyota.
I think that they could...
And they can put some kind of gear in there so they can easily mount the machine gun.
I would love to have one of these surplus ones once the war is over, you know, when I'm selling holes in it.
Yeah, with the mouth.
Hellfire missile is $70,000.
It's cheap.
What was a million dollars?
Well, this is a good little point here.
Somebody pointed out the U.S. recently sold 209 Patriot missiles to Kuwait for $900 million.
So each of those things cost $4.3 million.
I don't think you can launch that from a drone, though.
Maybe you can.
I don't know.
No, those are fired from the ground.
From a submarine.
I thought the hell fires were more specific.
It's not a submarine either.
Here is Dianne Feinstein.
I'm confirming another track of this war on ISIL. That what the change is, what the Coalition of the Willing is willing to do, what the Saudis are going to do, if in fact, and there's a difference of opinion on this, is Iran going to help?
Iran has offered to help.
I, for one, think that's useful.
What...
What other Middle Eastern countries are going to do?
And what would be the prime role for America?
So that's interesting.
This is what we've been talking about, that Iran would be...
And she says Iran, which means she's not really in the know.
Ben, then we have Wes Clark coming on The Telegraph.
Although we already have heard from him, he's always happy to have the Wes Clark show back on the air.
How serious of a threat is this?
I think it's a big threat to Saudi Arabia.
I think it's a threat to peace and stability in the region.
I think there's some threat to the U.S. homeland from people who have served there or people who might want to go there but find it more convenient to strike in the United States.
Well, a lot of people who have Western passports, European passports, American passports.
Hundreds of people.
But I think the key thing is that this is a force that has money, it has military leadership, and it has the ability to reach out and strike.
So if I were particularly the Saudi government, I would be particularly worried about this force.
Hello!
Hello, Saudi Arabia.
Hello, Saudi Arabia.
Incoming, incoming.
No American combat troops.
He's going to rely on this coalition.
Who is this coalition?
The only way you can beat it is by having Sunni troops on the ground against ISIS. We're taking sides here.
There's a lot of action going on.
This is actually kind of fun to watch.
I find it a very enjoyable show.
I'm completely worried about my fellow...
See, if they catch on and really start to figure out how they can get...
See, they're not managing the sickness properly yet.
This is why it's not trending.
Because they're just not doing it right.
But if they really figure it out, I think you'll see people going into shock.
Yes.
Here's CNN trying.
Wolf, tonight, new information about a desire by ISIS to carry out an attack using biological agents.
At least one ISIS militant is connected to a plan to inflict mass casualties, a scheme which could lend more urgency to the president's plan to eliminate the ISIS threat.
After killing thousands of Iraqis and Syrians and beheading two Americans, could ISIS be planning something bigger?
A US intelligence official tells CNN they're aware of specific details on a laptop.
See, this thing got no play.
The laptop?
Yeah, this bogus laptop.
Now they're just reading foreignpolicy.com's crap on the air.
Captured from an ISIS hideout in northern Syria.
Hideout.
It was a safe house before.
According to Foreign Policy magazine, which accessed the laptop and first reported on it, the computer has documents on how to carry out a mass attack.
Unfortunately not encrypted with that Super Mujahideen encryption.
Among those documents, how to make biological weapons.
Even how to weaponize the bubonic plague.
Wah!
If they got the agent, got the dispersal...
Listen to this.
This is an expert on bubonic plague and killing people with biological weapons.
And they're standing on a street corner doing this interview.
Right.
Can it wipe out whole city blocks?
It can wipe out entire cities if they're using a contagious agent that is micro-encapsulated in their right particle size.
Yes.
According to foreign policy, one of the documents on biological weapons says, quote, use small grenades with the virus and throw them in closed areas like metros.
Hold on, let me write that down.
Use small grenades with this bubonic plague which I've microbiologized somehow and throw them into the metro.
It will remove entire cities!
Soccer stadiums or entertainment centers.
Note soccer stadiums, not football stadiums.
Soccer stadiums.
Hello, Europe.
False flag coming.
In another file, a video showing how to make ricin.
The laptop was the property.
Walter White can make ricin.
That doesn't impress me.
See, this is what these people are doing wrong.
We have a jihadist labeled Mohammed S. who joined ISIS after studying at two universities in Tunisia.
They confirmed that the guy studied their physics and chemistry and that he left in 2011 and they don't know where he went.
What is interesting about this case is this guy had a science background.
I mean, he was, you know, he wasn't just looking into this.
Because what you're really concerned about is a scientist really kind of adopting these jihadi ideals.
Shut up already!
It's science!
What is your...
Terror laptop of doom, which went nowhere.
We had such a nice jingle for it.
So we have a guy, Anode505, one of the Twitter followers.
He has a nice little one that we should at least consider.
Tech obsessive compulsive disorder, TOCD. Maybe.
It's not bad.
No, it's not bad.
Let me write it down.
T-O-C-D. It'd be nice if we just have three letters instead of four.
Tech obsessive compulsive disorder.
It's not good enough because it's really about the social network and the smartphone.
It's not just tech.
It's on the board.
It's on the board.
It's a good start.
It's on the board, a very good start.
Yeah, so this is really quite sad.
It's hilarious.
Well, I think it's really good for the general economy.
This is what it's always been about.
You know, here's the joke of it.
It's not that good for the general economy.
Why not?
I mean, yeah, what it does is it gets back to less than what we were spending.
Maybe more.
Then we have this little issue coming into play by this nervous Nelly who came on one of the business shows.
Play the 11% clip, which will kind of like maybe take it back a notch.
Labor-saving technology.
And you would think that manufacturing would have the biggest expenditure.
And it actually is pretty constant across different industries.
So about 11% of the current employees are basically going to be made redundant by robots over the next five years.
Okay, so 11% across the board.
If you look at that number of employees losing their jobs, that is equivalent to the amount of unemployed we have today.
It's a huge chunk of the population.
And with minimum wage increasing, that is going to be ramped up.
So what we're talking is more than 11.
Wow, wow, wow.
All right, Professor, thank you very, very much.
You know what?
Someone's got to get voted off the island.
Might as well be the 11%.
I don't care.
Take your phone and go away.
Indiscriminate narrative acceptance disorder.
No, that's too complicated.
I can't remember it.
You just said it.
I couldn't repeat it back.
Put it on the list.
Put it on the list.
So many people want this.
They want this.
This is just making our show better.
So the president showed up on Chuck Todd.
This was on, this is Chuck's chips.
Chuck Todd, who I've now determined is a version, I'm going to try to reintroduce this character into the public consciousness, or at least in the agenda consciousness.
A character that was a 1920s through about 1950 cartoon character named Casper Milquetoast.
Milquetoast, of course.
And this is Chuck Todd.
I didn't realize it until somebody said, oh, Chuck Todd's going to be fired because of his stupid questions.
He's toast, somebody said.
Yeah, exactly.
He's milk toast.
And I said, yes, Casper milk toast.
He will not get fired.
He's perfect.
Do you want to explain Casper milk toast briefly?
Casper milk toast was this wimp, a wuss that would always just, he wouldn't make a statement.
He was always beating around the bush.
He was the original politically correct person.
And this was in the 20s.
And this cartoon was called The Timid Soul by a very famous cartoonist at the time who was considered kind of the Mark Twain of cartooning.
And he just played this wimp, this outright, you know, oh, you can't do this, you can't do that.
I mean, just this scared, you know, wuss.
In fact, it was described as such back then.
Well, not really.
But this is where the milquetoast saying comes from.
Yes, and it's spelled M-I-L-Q-U-E, toast.
Right.
And it's Caspar, C-A-S-P-A-R. Anyway, you can look him up on the Wikipedia.
He's very interesting.
But so I've decided that Chuck Todd is this guy and he's going to be perfect for NBC.
And so listen to this.
This is the Chuck Todd and the exhausted query.
This is where he has Obama.
He tries to ask a hard question and then Obama brushes him off and continues chatting.
Plenty of supporters of yours say to me he looks exhausted.
Are you exhausted?
You know, I actually feel energized.
Energized about the opportunities that we've got.
There are days where I'm not getting enough sleep because we've got a lot on our plate.
When you're President of the United States, you're not just dealing with the United States, as we saw during the NATO summit.
If there's a problem in Ukraine, we're the ones who are expected to mobilize the world's community to isolate Russia, put pressure, support Ukrainians, and to vindicate the principles of sovereignty and territorial integrity and freedom that we stand for.
If there's a problem in the Middle East, the expectation is that we create the coalitions to deal with a problem like ISIL. If there's an issue in Africa around Ebola, we need to help mobilize that public health infrastructure.
You should be wearing a cape, don't you think?
A big super cape.
And so, you know...
This is exactly what the progressives, liberals, whatever you want to call it, the Obama bots, like my friends here, this is, even though the professor moved away, the artist wants to introduce a new person and wants to rekindle the O-Bot sessions, the artist wants to introduce a new person and wants to rekindle I think I have to go.
Oh, yeah.
I need to tap into how they are handling this because I think they're going to, oh, no drama, Obama is going to go in there.
This is our job.
This is who we are as Americans.
Which is Bush!
And I will be able to throw all these things out.
It's not just me.
It's my staff also.
Our inbox gets pretty high.
I got asked to adjourn that.
Gets pretty high?
What kind of metaphor is that for your inbox?
Full?
Maybe.
Or maybe he means an actual paper inbox.
They print out the emails.
I don't know what's going on there.
Vacation.
You made the statement on Foley.
You went and golfed.
Do you want that back?
It is always a challenge when you're supposed to be on vacation.
Yeah, here's the challenge that he really had.
News 4 has learned that over the recent Labor Day weekend, when he was in New York for fundraisers and to attend the wedding of his chef, President Obama's request to play golf at several clubs was denied.
Apparently, some New York movers and shakers would not alter their golf plans for the president.
Yeah, his real bosses.
Go away, boy.
His real bosses.
His real bosses.
The bankers.
You can't play.
No, we don't want your bull crap with your helicopters.
Go away.
We have a game here.
Son, move off.
Yeah, that's exactly what that means.
I'm sorry, the boy thing that came out very racist, but I think that may be the case.
No, no, that's what they would say.
You were just mocking.
I am mocking, of course.
I'm sure they would say something like that.
Anyway, so we go on, and they go to the meet.
Now they have a little table, and then Chuck Todd sits in the middle, and it's old-fashioned, two people on either side of it.
Is this new in the format?
I think that this way they're doing this, they've got new people.
Very dangerous to do this.
Very dangerous.
You've got to ease into the old format.
Don't just go changing everything.
Well, maybe.
I don't know.
You know, I never watch this show.
But anyway, they have the...
I don't remember seeing it like this.
I remember seeing it a little more modern.
This is the old-fashioned guy in the middle, two on each side.
That is very dated.
That's the old, old way.
Nobody does that anymore.
Nobody does that.
So anyway, he's got the two guys.
Scarborough is one of them.
Then he's got a...
Chuck Scarborough?
No.
Yeah.
Chuck Scarborough from New York 5?
No.
You must have been...
No, the Scarborough guy that's on the MSNBC morning, Joe.
That's not Chuck.
Joe, you said Chuck.
I didn't say Chuck.
You said Chuck.
I said Scarborough.
You said Chuck Scarborough.
I said Chuck Scarborough.
You said, yeah, it's Joe.
Never mind.
Joe.
Anyway, the point is...
Israeli moon bases.
You'll be sorry you keep mocking me about that.
Episode 141.
You were right.
What do you mean I was right?
I haven't checked it.
Someone said it was 141.
It's a long time ago.
Yeah, what happened?
When I said Israeli moon bases.
I haven't checked it, but I believe a random Twitter person over you any day.
So you said Israeli moon bases is what you're telling me.
In episode 141.
I stand corrected.
I haven't checked it, but I believe it.
Huh.
Well, I feel very good now.
I'm very vindicated because I was challenged when I absolutely remember this and people kept reminding me of it.
Let me just tell you, I'm feeling very weak right now.
I'm sharting.
That's fine.
You'll feel better in a minute.
Back to this.
Really?
Chuck in the middle has got this guy on his right that is a bold clone of Chuck.
He's got that same little beard, that little round goatee beard.
Exactly the same.
It's kind of creepy to see it.
Anyway, so I have a clip, and I want to see if you can spot the odd usage of a single term that, to be honest about it, I've never heard before, let alone heard a million times now, on this little exchange between Chuck and these other people that were trying to deconstruct his screw-up with the Foley thing.
The Foley commentary, which apparently...
You mean the JV, the junior varsity?
The thing that Chuck Todd didn't, it was a Casper milquetoast, could not really talk to the president about, except mention and passing them back off.
So let's listen to this.
And look for the term.
I want you to tell me the term.
Okay.
...dot com.
I want to bring back Joe, Amy, Nia, and Stanton here.
Nia, let me start with you.
The president talking optics.
You know, he does, he hates that aspect of the job.
He admitted it.
It was sort of that, sort of a very honest moment.
Yeah, you know, I remember, and you covered President Obama in 2008, or candidate Obama when he was there.
He did get the optics then, right?
I mean, this was...
Well, he likes good optics.
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
Brandenburg Gate, yeah, that's cool.
But he got the optics.
But he got the theater of politics and this idea that somehow he doesn't get it now.
I think he gets it.
I think he probably just doesn't care at this point and is fine with blaming the press.
Presidents do have to compartmentalize.
I mean, that is a fact of the matter.
If you don't, you could never go to sleep.
They do have to compartmentalize.
So I was glad.
It was good to hear the president say, I'm not really good at it.
I probably should be a little bit better at optics.
That's hard for him.
You know, Stan, it's important to note, he's basically saying, I messed up the optics.
He's not saying, I shouldn't have done the golf.
He's basically saying, look, I deal with this all the time.
You guys just had a different picture.
Yeah, and I think they've had this problem, I think, throughout particularly the last couple of years since the last election.
But, I mean, it's been a systemic problem for the administration where they don't quite understand that these things matter to people.
It does matter to see the president being serious, leaving something like that, and not being out, you know, laughing and joking with his friends.
Even though, you know, I think most Americans get that he can compartmentalize and that, you know, this does not necessarily impact his ability to do the job.
It matters still for them psychologically.
Why is it back to win elections?
I mean, this guy has been attacked for not getting optics since 2008.
I have an opinion on this.
Well, you go first.
I have an opinion on this.
Well, first of all, it's the stupidest conversation I've ever heard probably for six months.
It compartmentalized an optics, which is some sort of an insider's beltway.
I don't even know if it's that because I've never heard this used like this before.
Over and over and over again in exchange for the word appearance.
Appearances, maybe.
Whatever the case is, it's like some sort of like a consultant's term, or it's like something that some douchebag would say in a meeting.
It just, I found it like a conversation of, where are these, what planet are these idiots from?
This word, optics, I have heard on a conference call within the past couple months with very high-level, very famous people Silicon Valley investors, very rich, and who know Obama personally, and they are Democrats, and they were using this word.
And I think it's just one of those things, but to me, optics is...
It means that you're distorting the light path or you're doing something scientific with optics, with lenses.
So I think the code, the way I interpret it, is you are trying to portray something to the public and you have your magic wiki lenses in front of it.
You're trying to laser, focus, beam, whatever you're trying to do, distort the image.
I think it means distortion.
I know what they may mean by saying, oh, okay, this is how it looks, but why not just say it would look bad?
Now, the optics, I think this is true code.
That was pretty outrageous how many times they used it.
Doesn't anyone think to themselves, crap, I shouldn't use that word?
I wonder about that myself.
I mean, there's more evidence.
I mean, I could have made that clip longer.
They did more?
And the optics, optics, optics, optics.
All the optics.
Well, he's aware of the optics.
Well, I think he used to be more aware of the optics.
Well, the optics, he could have done this with the optics.
I was floored, flabbergasted by this particular...
And to be honest about it, I have never heard it used before.
You got to hear it and probably you picked up on it when you heard it the first time.
I actually mentioned this to you.
It doesn't matter.
I remember you and I having a conversation.
Well, apparently it wasn't pounded home like listening to these guys use it over and over and over.
All of them.
They all used it.
Here's optics.
The scientific study of sight and the behavior of light or the properties of transmission and deflection of other forms of radiation.
And then it has North America, typically in a political context, the way in which an event or course of action is perceived by the public.
So I would change that definition to the way the public is deceived by politicians.
That's why I think it's good.
That is in the dictionary there, as that definition, which is what we just discussed, means it's been around a lot longer.
Apparently I was not paying attention.
I've never heard of you so much on television.
By the way, that is the Google, when you just throw it into Google.
If you go to Dictionary, Merriam-Webster does not have this definition.
Okay, so it's new.
This is a new thing.
And this came from consultants, I'm sure of it.
And the fact that venture capitalists would be, and I'm saying the fact.
I do have to nail you.
I don't know how else to get to the sentence, but...
Venture capitalists are using the term, and they are extremely susceptible to language change based on meetings with consultants and advisors and groupthink.
So they'll go to conferences and somebody uses the term a lot, boom, they're using it the next day.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Well, that's a good catch.
Yeah, I was kind of, I'm just interested in the, I hope I don't hear it much more because I, it's very annoying.
I think it's an annoying term to hear when it means, why don't they just use what they're talking about?
Appearances or theater or, you know, a couple of other.
Because I think they really mean the distortion of the light to the public, not how the public perceives something.
I don't know that these guys, Scarborough and...
They're all...
Come on, Scarborough's a politician.
They're all in the circuit.
Come on, John.
The whole game is so rigged.
Then they're discussing stuff in front of the public on two levels.
Yeah.
And the level that they're discussing amongst themselves is not the level that the public is hearing.
That's what you hear when Pooper and Tapper laugh about these so-called advisors.
They're like, advisors, right.
And Pooper goes, yeah, right.
We know that.
But doesn't discuss it.
Doesn't say, hey, these advisors.
Yeah.
They are just essentially buffaloing the public by talking at two levels like this.
Let me point out that you say it's never going to be up to that level.
No, no, no.
So the military, the consultants, the advisors, the academies of the world, there's a couple others.
They charge so much money to do this work.
It is a huge bonanza.
It gets thrown into this $500 million counterterrorism fund.
It's a total slush fund.
It is a big bonanza, what is happening here.
Toyota's in on it.
Everybody's in on it, John.
Everybody is rocking this.
They love it.
Yes, it does.
Well, yes.
So you're indicating on some level that, or if you're not, I'm going to do it now, that these douchebags on this show, talking amongst themselves, nobody's meeting the press, it's the press talking amongst itself, it looks like, after an interview somebody did.
They are indicating, by using the word optics, optics, optics, that they're in politics.
Yes.
They went to the right meetings, and they're indicating to each other that they're members of the club, of some club.
Yes.
That is exactly what you're hearing.
I see no difference between them saying optics, optics, and Pooper and Tapper laughing at the advisors while not sharing the joke.
Yes.
Yes.
This is what astounds me because I've tried to move...
I've tried to place my conspiratorial thinking into a certain box and be very careful, just for my own credibility.
You know, these things I'll always come back to that I have a set of thinking about.
But to me, it's becoming more and more evident with every passing day that the mainstream media really is in on it.
And it really is controlled.
It is so evident.
You know, Facebook.com slash CarolCNN.
She's cute.
She's dumb.
This is why Donna Brazile, she's not in the meeting.
They expect her to just say, hey, look, you're black, you're a Democrat.
Go say nice things about the president.
Go on CNN. This is how they think, by the way.
This is not me.
This is how they think.
And she screws it up.
They've pulled her off.
After an hour of that crap, she didn't say goodbye.
She was gone.
She was a loser.
She couldn't handle it.
She wasn't at the meeting.
No, there are meetings going on.
It's really, really rampant.
And I find it hard to believe.
This is something I would have said six years ago.
Mainstream media is all in!
But it seems, from all evidence I'm seeing, that it's true.
Which is why we have an audience that enjoys the simple fact that we can deconstruct this and pull it out.
Without limits.
I don't know why our skills are so good at spotting this stuff, but at least to me, not always, but often, These things stand out like a sore thumb and I'm stunned.
People aren't noticing.
Well, the 94% of all Americans who had heard about the videos...
It's very difficult.
Even the smart people I know say, I don't want to watch the video.
And it's so easy to dupe people by...
I mean, we've seen beheading videos.
We've seen people getting...
I find the videos where this guy's sitting in a row and they get shot through the back of the head.
It's very shocking to see that.
That's real.
But that's not being propagated because, you know, not our actors.
No one's famous.
We needed our global post boys.
The Boston connection, which I will point out is very...
The Boston connection is becoming extremely annoying.
Global Post is from Boston.
I'll save this until after the break, but let's talk about our model first, and then I'll get into all of that.
that.
As we close out the segment, I think we should probably do that.
I'm going to show myself a little by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
And I do want to point out that we have a global intelligence network.
Then people contribute to the show from all walks of life.
If there's something we need an expert on, that expert is there.
Many of them go anonymous and not want to be credited on the show.
Most of them.
A lot of them.
Not most of them.
A lot of them.
And other people contribute by keeping us in business.
And it's kind of a network ourselves because we...
Kind of.
These people communicate with each other.
Oh, yeah.
We're a conduit for kind of understanding what's going on for people who want to know what's going on.
A lot of people don't care.
Most people don't care.
They got their little Facebook thing.
They got their iPhones in front of them.
They don't care.
If you present the show to them, we don't care.
We don't care.
I'm trying to ignore that because it's too upsetting.
And that, I think, is where...
Our rulers really want us to be, just in a non-caring mode.
All they have to do is just make the optics look right and you're good to go.
It's that simple.
Make the optics true.
Maybe that's how you would present it.
And then we have no argument.
Exactly.
So let's thank a few people that helped us out with show 651, including Christopher Dolan, who came in with one of my favorite donations, 12345, and he's in Berlin, Connecticut.
And he wants to thank us for the best podcast in the universe, and he wants luck with the ladies.
We'll give you some luck with the ladies, Karma, coming up in a minute.
At the end, yes, we will.
Most definitely.
Hugh Becker.
One, two, three, four, five.
Nice.
And he's actually in Puerto Rico.
And he wants to give Karma to everybody who listens to the show.
You might want to look over his notes because he's got a couple of interesting things in here.
Let me see.
What do we have?
Oh, he told us about NATO backwards.
I guess it's more than a few people use that.
Rui Salgado in Grimaras, Portugal.
And that's not pronounced that way.
Yeah.
Because the Portuguese pronounce things oddly.
Yeah.
That would be more closer to Spanish, maybe.
Another one, two, three, four, five.
Nice.
And he says he's hoping he's not too late wishing Adam a happy birthday.
Not at all.
And he says, you guys have changed my view on media and educated me on the value of healthy cynicism and critical thinking, all while putting on an amazing show.
I don't know about amazing.
Amazing.
It's amazing.
I'll be forever grateful.
Please.
And he's on the birthday list.
John Knowles in Tennessee, Murfreesboro, Murfreesboro, Murfreesboro, $111.11, which is not, we don't get that as much.
Not a lot anymore, no.
Matthew Helley.
Matthew Helley.
I'm sweating.
I have the fevers back.
$110.69.
If I start vomiting, then I could have Ebola, right?
No, you don't have Ebola.
Sure.
This is my common core donation.
10 because of your friend, 5 and 6 of you can decompress 69 because it adds up to 15.
Okay.
Not absolutely sure what he's talking about.
Oh, boo!
And, uh, next!
Yeah, but I didn't realize.
Hello?
Yeah, well, you know, I'm just trying to keep up with everything.
Give me a second.
Uh...
You know, I should just have these in the jingle machine.
The lords, dames, knights, slaves, and elites, please be outstanding for another donation from the Grand Duke von Elsmachers.
I love that.
That's a great one.
Steven Pelsmarkers in Belgium, $109.14.
His note reads, ITM gentlemen, inspirational creators of the BPITU. Felt compelled to donate today, September 10, 2014, September 10, 2014, as those numbers add up to the match number.
That's right.
Have a great show.
I would love some ongoing divorce settlement karma to help decide the outstanding financial and child custody issues reasonably even and fair.
All the lawyers do is suck us dry.
What a job.
He needs an LGY and a karma.
We have to give him one, of course, on the spot.
Well, yeah, I agree.
I think we should do an LGY right now for him.
Yay!
You've got karma.
Yeah.
Sending it out to you, Grand Duke.
Scott Edmonston in San Diego, California, $101.
EA of Woodland Hills, $100.65.
I see $166.
Is it just me?
$100.66.
Don DiTomaso DiTorati.
Sorry, wrong one.
$100 in kettlebelly on terraces for his son's knighthood.
Right.
Well, he'll take care of the numbers, I'm sure.
Joshua Borklund in Casper, Wyoming.
Yeah, nailed it that time.
Daryl Coquillet.
Coquillet.
Yeah, I think.
Coquillet.
Portland, Illinois.
It's 77-77.
Sack of sevens.
That's for our birthday.
26th of October?
Yeah, 26th of October.
And we'll be doing a show on that day.
That's right.
Kaylin Nistor in Northville, Minnesota. Minnesota. Michigan.
Sorry.
Sir Brian Ferguson in Foothill Ranch, California, $77.77.
Christine Zuckman in Lost Wages, Nevada, $77.77.
Adam Colby, $75 in Minashua, Wisconsin.
Minasha. Minasha. Minasha. Minasha, Wisconsin.
Brian Williams is a $75.
Is it Sir Brian Williams?
In Streamwood, Illinois.
73-73.
73's to him.
Judson Noel in Oxford, Mississippi.
66-80.
Which is the Reagan alternative.
We have all of two people that jumped on board with that.
Jason Daniels, 66-80.
In Dallas, Texas.
Dallas nuts.
Dallas nuts.
Texas nuts.
Michael Dwyer in Bryan, Texas.
Look at this on the spreadsheet.
Just by coincidence, there's three Texans in a row.
Double nickels on the dime.
Armando Guerra in Buda.
I miss you, Armando.
That's our mailman.
I really miss him.
50-33.
Why don't you go have a beer with him.
Buy him a beer.
Do a meet-up down there.
Do a Texas meet-up.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
Bengston in Sweden, $50.33.
Willie Tynison. Tynison. Tynison. Tynison. Tynison. In Grave. Grave. Grave. Grave. Grave. Grave.
We can do this until we're dead, but I love doing that with you.
It's just so funny.
Okay, Brian said, Holland obviously, Netherlands.
Hawley, Hawley, Hawley Macro Software.
Holy Macro Software.
Oh, yes.
Holy.
Yes, is what it was.
These are all $50.
Not too many.
Don't worry about it.
It's actually a pretty short list.
Paul Vela.
Sir Paul Vela, if I'm not mistaken.
Milton Keynes, UK. So we have two UKs in a row.
Parts Unknown, Antonio McMullen, $50.
David Peet.
And we have a screw-up of his something.
It's the birthday from last time.
Did we fix that?
Yes, it's on the list.
It's a make good birthday.
It was a big issue.
I think that's one of the letters I lost.
Jan van der Leyen, Austin.
It's on there.
Awesome.
Jan van der Laun.
Awesome.
Jan van der Laun.
Awesome.
Yeah, yeah.
Very good.
And finally, Sir Alan Bean over here in Oakland, our regular, who writes a checkout by hand every month on the dot and sends it over.
And we want to thank them and all the other people who gave Lester amounts to show 651 and remind you that we do have another show coming up on Sunday.
The shows have been quite good recently.
There's a lot of good stuff in here.
You're not going to hear it anyplace else.
And it goes on forever.
It never stops.
It never stops.
It goes on forever, people.
We're on show, so you might as well help us keep this going, and we will do the best job that you ever hear.
This is the best podcast in the universe.
It's a fact.
That is a fact.
Dvorak.org slash NA. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got...
Karma.
I'm just going to read this before I get into it.
So Carolyn Peet donated $9,454 via check.
We missed her 60th birthday call out on September 4th.
And so was it her birthday?
Or his birthday?
Well?
It's not clear.
It says missed her 60th birthday call.
I think that's what happened.
Let me take a look.
There is an email from her.
Because I only have the note.
We'll take the time to look at the email.
I don't want to screw this up.
No, no.
Oh, by the way, people, if you want to be on the birthday list, mention that in your note when you make your donation.
Don't just email me and say, it's my birthday!
No, that's not going to work.
I'm going to read it and you can figure out whose birthday it is.
It sure doesn't pay to have your 60th birthday on the day after Adam's 50th.
I sent a check for 9454-9454, which is good.
Get it, she says.
Just so I can get my birthday shout-out on my birthday.
So it's her birthday.
And we really apologize for this.
No mention at all until Sunday's show where you listed the amount, but no birthday!
So anyway, please add my donation to my husband's account, David P. He gets the credit.
And she gets the birthday call out.
And loves the show.
Hope you never stop.
And as long as people like you support us and don't mind us missing a birthday once in a while.
60th, by the way, which is a nasty one.
You would know.
Is it depressing?
Is it really depressing?
No, not at all.
Why do you say it's a nasty one?
It's just because people, oh, you're old.
You know, oh, senior citizen.
You know, that kind of thing.
I'm going to tell you, here's something.
I want everyone out there who works in retail or anything like this.
You go buy something, and the guy at the counter says, that'll be $5, young man.
To who?
To you?
Yeah.
Fuck you, is what I'd say.
Yeah.
Douchebag.
Right.
Huh.
How...
I would throw...
I would say, fuck you.
I'm sorry, I said it twice.
I said Tourette's.
I'm not...
I don't want...
I'm just...
Where's your manager?
This is ageism.
You might as well just say boy to a black man.
It's an ism.
Yeah.
Same thing.
It's horrible.
My first boss.
And they do it with women, too.
They say young lady.
I watched it on television.
I saw somebody do this.
It was on one of the game shows.
Somebody comes down.
Come on now.
So where are you from, young lady?
The woman was 70.
Yeah, that's messed up.
Yeah, and it happens commonly.
I don't know where it came from, and I never noticed it before, but I notice it now because it happens to me about once every few months.
Once every few months?
Oh, man, this is reason for a concealed weapon.
Mm-hmm.
Just pull that out.
Say that again, punk.
Yeah.
It's kind of a southern thing, kind of a Texas thing.
Mm-hmm.
If a woman unknown to me asks me something, or I need to confirm something, I say, yes ma'am.
I say ma'am, which I think makes women feel old and crappy, but it used to be just polite.
But I think now it probably throws them off.
Well, I know that 20-somethings women really hate it.
Yeah.
They consider some sort of an insult.
Yeah.
Well, my first boss, Lex, who has all the war holes and all that, he's 72.
And he was at my birthday with his 40-year-old Persian princess, I might point out, which is where I get all my Iranian news from.
Because she travels to Tehran all the time.
Believe me, they have like a big fence around it and everyone's like ready to kill Americans.
Yeah, no, if you can go there.
Yeah.
But he said, dude, this should be your last big birthday party.
He says, do you 60 or 65?
People are dead.
They can't show up anymore.
They're all dried up and decrepit looking.
It'll just bum you out.
Don't do it.
And I'm taking that to heart.
I think that 50 is it.
That's a great...
Everyone still looked good.
We partied.
It was nice.
We're done.
Don't you think?
Yeah.
Yeah, I would say that's right.
Okay.
Thank you for your courage there.
And we made good on Carolyn Peake's birthday, Sorry for missing her big 6-0.
Happy birthday from your buddies here.
P.G. Kelly turned 50 on the 9th.
And Reece Salgado celebrated on September 7th.
Happy birthday from all your friends here at the best podcast in the universe.
It's your birthday.
Then we have two knightings, Hugo Becker and Hey Idiot from Atlas McDowell.
So I brought it back with me.
It was in the suitcase.
Not a problem.
Now that I'm a trusted traveler.
And there's yours.
Good, we got that.
Hugo Becker, come on down, along with Hey Idiot from Atlas McDowell.
Both of you have contributed to no agenda in the amount of $1,000 or more, and therefore you can be welcomed to the roundtable of the Knights and Dames.
And I hereby pronounce the Sir Hugo Becker and Sir Hey Idiot of Atlas McDowell.
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There's always the mutton and mean, which always seems to be the one that I wind up last with.
Go to noagendanation.com slash rings to get your well-deserved jewelry.
And thank you very much.
Today on Times Square, there's a big billboard.
That I think the architects and engineers for 9-11 paid for.
And it shows a loop, a video loop, of Trade Tower 7 in free fall collapse.
I think it says...
Let me look at the article here.
I thought the image wasn't all that great.
It's a little confusing the way they did it.
But it says, Did you know a third tower fell on 9-11?
Then it shows...
It has their website address.
Then it shows the tower falling.
I'm glad that someone's still doing that.
Because that is one of them.
They're still doing it all over the place.
That one guy who's floating around, the architects for 9-11 truth.
And there's lots of them.
These are the same guys.
They're finally focusing on that tower.
Yeah.
Fell down.
For no apparent reason.
Yeah.
So that would be nice to understand.
MSNBC this morning was quite disturbing.
They re-aired in real time, time-synchronized the NBC Today show broadcast.
Very interesting to relive that.
I was editing clips during this morning, but that's why you do the show later than I do.
Even though it sounds like we're doing it at the same time, in fact we're not.
WTC7 won't go away!
Very, very annoying how it just won't go away.
I want to do a light-hearted clip.
Oh, okay.
I was flipping around and I ran into this commercial.
And I used the word weird in the title.
This commercial is on daytime television during soap operas.
Which, of course, soap operas is a tight commercial.
Isn't that a coincidence?
Yes.
But I found this to be one of the strangest commercials.
And it's worth trying to understand this woman who acts like she's kind of a drunk housewife.
But...
But this is a very short, I think it's 15 seconds.
It's a 30.
It's a 30.
Okay, wait, it's a 30.
And it is a very, very strange commercial.
With kids, you expect stuff like grass stains, but nobody warned me about this.
The boys start to smell.
What?
You're becoming a man.
This bag, filled with his baseball clothes, let's just say it's got a powerful scent.
But with Tide Sport, I just throw the bag right in the wash, clothes and all, and it comes out fresh as a daisy.
Makes this puberty thing easier on all of us, right?
Puberty makes it fun to say.
Acme's coming next!
Right?
It is.
Tide Sport.
That's my Tide Plus.
I'm surprised they didn't mention wet dreams.
Puberty's coming next.
Or no, acne's coming next, she says.
And then she looks at the camera and then she nods and says it is.
The whole ad was very weird.
Yeah, that is.
And yeah, you get to say it.
No, you get to say it this time.
It's okay.
You get to say it.
Anyway, that was...
Okay, well that was what we call filler.
Totally filler.
I have another bill that I'd like to discuss.
Actually, it's a joint resolution.
So that's an SJ, Senate Joint Resolution No.
19.
And here is Senator Grassley complaining about...
This is a Reid's First Amendment proposal.
Mr.
President, with all the problems facing the country and the world, the majority has decided...
That the time has come to cut back on the Bill of Rights to be amended for the first time in our history.
We hear from the other side repeatedly that they revere the Constitution.
But they want to restrict the core of free speech.
That is speech that allows a self-governing people to choose in elections the people who will represent them.
This proposed amendment would enshrine in our Constitution the ability of elected officials to criminally punish those who would dare to criticize them more than the elected officials think.
Sounds legit.
The amendment being proposed would put those who would engage in political speech on notice that they may be prosecuted for being active citizens in our democracy.
The First Amendment creates a marketplace of ideas.
When people disagree on political speech, competing voices respond to each other, and the public then decides.
When speech is free, people are not shut up with the threat of jail if government thinks they speak too much.
Now, I don't think that this will really make it anywhere because an amendment is very, very difficult, but it just gives you the thinking, and I do want to read a few because no one else will do this.
Maybe congressional dish girl.
This is the joint resolution proposing an amendment to the Constitution.
She only does House stuff.
Only House stuff?
Yep.
Oh yeah, congressional.
So they have a lot of stuff.
The following article is proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states, which is why it makes it so difficult to get a constitutional amendment through.
Purposely so.
Section 1.
To advance democratic self-government and political equality and to protect the integrity of government and the electoral process, Congress and the states may regulate and set reasonable limits on the raising and spending of money by candidates and others to influence elections.
Section two, Congress and the state shall have power to implement and enforce this article by appropriate legislation and may distinguish between natural persons and corporations or other artificial entities created by law, including by prohibiting such entities from spending money to influence elections.
Second three, nothing in this article shall be construed to grant Congress or the states the power to abridge the freedom of the press.
So the idea here is there will be a limit and New York has already started some of this with, you know, you have to report.
That's how it starts.
Report your what you've spent.
But this is, of course, it's been discussed, and the Supreme Court has talked about this to no end.
You cannot, you can't do this.
Well, you know, this is not a new topic for us.
We've actually discussed this exact...
But here's the...
Now Reid has put in the actual paperwork, which is new.
Not discussed, by the way.
Not discussed.
Not discussed anywhere.
Yeah, this is about the Koch brothers.
It's about Citizens United.
It doesn't really mention...
Koch brothers!
It doesn't really mention the...
If you look at the list of all the great big donors, there's one at the top that is way...
The Koch brothers aren't even...
I think they're in the top ten, maybe.
But they're not the big spenders.
There's a couple organizations, mostly to support the Democrats.
This is part of campaign finance.
I don't know what they're trying to accomplish.
They can't...
They're just assholes who get in Congress.
They don't want to compete anymore.
They just say, I'm here.
I don't want to have to deal with all these guys coming after me and getting me voted out.
I've just got a good deal going on.
And then they blame the Koch brothers.
I don't know.
It's annoying.
I just wanted to point it out.
I got a sound clip this morning from one of our producers, CIS admin Mark, in Chicago.
And they have the Metra.
Is the Metra, is that like a shopping center or something?
I don't know anything about the Metra.
Let me just check.
Chicago, Metra.
The Metra.
Metra Rail.
Oh, Metra Rail.
Of course, the Chicago Rail.
There you go.
Oh, okay.
And he recorded it.
This is a very futuristic Hey Citizens type of recording.
In the subway, elevated.
Yes, and he recorded this this morning.
Attention, please.
Today, the anniversary of September 11th of 2001, Ventra asks that you remain vigilant of your surroundings and notify Ventra employees of anything suspicious.
If you see something, say something.
Ha ha!
I just love it.
If you see something, say something.
I just love Be Vigilant on this anniversary of September 11th.
This is terrorism.
You can't do this.
Terrorism.
Now, Rand Paul, who I don't like, had a very funny...
About the militarization of the police departments and how, you know, this is an obvious extension of the military-industrial complex where, oh yeah, it's surplus.
No, it's just using tax dollars to just sell more crap into the police forces who, of course, you know, then look like armies.
And there were two clips that came out of this that I thought was very, very funny.
First...
I had no idea that this is part of the equipment that is being granted to police departments.
Mr.
Estevez, in the NPR investigation of the 1033 program, they list that 12,000 bayonets have been given out.
What purpose are bayonets being given out for them?
Senator, bayonets are available under the program.
I can't answer what a local police force would need a bayonet.
I can give you an answer.
None.
No, to stick citizens with, obviously.
Come on.
So what's President Obama's administration's position on handing out bayonets to the police forces?
Shut up, slave.
I'm going to stick this bayonet up your butt.
It's on your list.
You guys create the list.
You're going to take it off the list.
We're going to keep doing it.
We are going to look at what we are providing under the administration's review of all these programs.
So it's unclear at this point whether President Obama approves of 12,000 bayonets being given out.
I would think you can make that decision last week.
I think we need to review all the equipment that we're providing, Senator.
And as I said, we, the Department of Defense, do not push any of this equipment on any police force.
The states decide what they need.
I love it.
I think that's so old-fashioned, bayonets.
Where are bayonets still used?
Even ISIL doesn't have bayonets.
No, why would you?
You got these, you know, AK whatever model they're using, and you can bayonet on those things.
It's like World War I. I love that bayonet.
You know what, if you're in a police department, just from my some understanding of government work, you're at the police department and they got these bayonets for sale on the list.
You get a list of stuff you can get and they're cheap.
Like they have this one of these giant troop things.
Some little area there was a report on this.
They had this this big armored armored thing and they painted it white and put a Red Cross thing on the side and they use it to evacuate.
They're going to use it to evacuate kids.
Kids are like school shooting and the kids will be safe in this thing.
It holds like two classrooms and it's, you know, it makes some logical sense.
It cost them $5,000.
This thing is probably, you know, a $250,000 vehicle.
Right.
Well, the bayonets are probably on the list with a similar discount.
Bayonets, $1.
So I'm the police chief, and I'm looking at the list, and I'm going, hey, Bill, these bayonets, they got bayonets on this list for $1.
Hey, man, I want one.
Hey, I want one, too.
Hey, get me one.
And so all these guys, so they order 25 bayonets, and they hand them out to the cops.
The cops take them home.
And they have them in the kitchen or something.
They use them to slice beef.
They use it in the barbecue.
And they cut this huge bayonet.
I think they should hand out mace balls.
They'd buy them.
They'd take them home.
For those of you who don't know, a mace ball is one of those chains with a ball with points on it.
So there was something else that I learned from Senator Paul that I did not know about this gear.
In FEMA's authorized equipment list, there's actually written descriptions for how the equipment should be used, and it says it's specifically not supposed to be used for riot suppression.
Mr.
Komoy, is that true, that it's not supposed to be used for riot suppression?
And how do you plan on policing that, since the images show us clearly large pieces of equipment that were bought with your grants being used in that riot suppression?
Senator Paul, that is.
Or protest suppression, rather.
That is accurate.
The categories of personal protective equipment that include helmets, ear and eye protection, ballistics, personal protective equipment is a prohibition in the authorized equipment list that is not to be used for riot suppression.
And what will you do about it?
We're going to follow the lead of the Department of Justice's investigation about the facts.
We're going to work with the state of Missouri to determine What pieces of equipment were grant funded?
And then we have a range of remedies available to us should there be any finding of non-compliance with those requirements.
Those include everything from corrective action plans to ensure it doesn't happen again, recoupment of funds.
So we'll look very closely at the facts, but we're going to allow the investigation to run its course and determine what the appropriate remedy is.
So I didn't know that that was not allowed to be used, because I think that's what it's used for exclusively.
Yeah, that's what it's for.
That makes no sense.
Yeah.
Interesting, huh?
Can't use protective gear in riots.
Oh, no, we bought this from TSA Homeland Security.
Take those things off.
Disturbing.
What would you use it for instead?
Just to look cool?
I guess.
I don't know.
There was a...
One more from the Hill.
There was a couple of interesting...
Long, there was a couple of interesting sessions.
The IRS stuff continues, of course.
No one even reports on this anymore, I don't think.
Because this is how you increase the fever of the sickness by whipping people around.
You actually predicted...
That in 2014, the six-week cycle would end.
And you're correct.
It has ended because we're now in a six-day cycle.
We're being whipped back and forth from douchebags hitting their wives to ISIL blowing us up to the Russia, Putin, Koch brothers.
It's boggling.
Mind-boggling.
It's great.
It is.
Well, it's working.
And so the IRS, there's more evidence that blackberries were destroyed.
The government...
Is completely out of control.
And this cavalier conversation, or this cavalier answer at the end of this clip, proves that beyond any doubt.
This is an IRS question.
You've got a clear answer on one part of Representative Black's questions.
This is Kosh Keenan.
This is the hatchet man, the guy who's supposed to be running the joint, who came in to fix the IRS. He's being questioned in Congress.
If your income changes or for some reason there is an overpayment of subsidies, there's a cap on your overpayment depending upon your income.
But if you were given, for example, affordable, offer affordable insurance to work and you don't take it, you are not eligible, period, the law is very clear that all of that must be repaid.
Will you be following the law in the collection of that, in that instance, an ineligible subsidy?
Yes, if somebody's ineligible, and as we receive the credit, they will be treated the way anybody else would be in our compliance process.
No, no, no.
The question is, the law in that case, there is not a cap.
All of the subsidy must be repaid.
Will you be following the law in that recapture?
Yes, wherever we can, we follow the law.
Wherever we can, otherwise forget it.
That's what he's saying.
And that's how they think up there.
Whenever we can.
Otherwise, eh.
What are you going to do about it?
Wow.
That's actually a very, very revealing clip.
That is...
That's how they think.
This is the truth.
Somehow they're always telling the truth.
Yeah, that's exactly how they...
Well, talking about little clips where people make gaffes.
But this is only a very short clip.
There was some Muslim recruiter from Minnesota that's apparently getting kids to join ISIL or ISIS. Yeah, this is where they're all coming from.
Yeah, so now there's some guys gone missing, and I didn't play the whole clip about this guy.
I just want you to listen to the very subtle little errors that Megyn Kelly makes that makes you wonder, who's she really working for?
He would make contact on the campus, and he would meet with them all day long.
That's the guy that we interviewed, FBI interviewed over 30 times, that he was arrested in Kenya, he's brought back to the United States, and now he's missing, and we don't know where he is, but he's suspected of some recruitment, or possibly, possibly even being a double agent working for us.
Go ahead.
Sure, no question.
So now she says, we, and then she says, I mean the FBI. She says that at the beginning.
So is she working for the FBI that she would make that gaffe?
I mean, it's not the kind of thing I think I'd say.
Oh, she's a total asset.
And then she goes on and she comes up with this off-the-wall double agent thing.
I've never heard that.
There's a CNN... What an awesome mill is talking about this guy being a double agent.
Well, CNN tonight has a special, and I just caught the promo this morning out of the corner of my eye, and it's the CIA spy for Al-Qaeda.
They're over-dramatizing everything, and of course the lines blur.
This is it, John.
This is it.
You and I are witnessing the actual...
Of destruction of society, I think.
It's a possibility.
And instead of Nero playing the harp, we're all, you know, fiddling with our iPhones.
I didn't get enough likes.
Oh, let me like that.
Adam, if you like me, I'll like you.
After the show...
We have to come up with a name, because someone else is going to turn this some bull crap professor.
No, nobody, no.
You don't think so?
Not going to happen.
They're all in.
Everybody is in on this, including probably a lot of our listeners.
On this whole being sucked into this tech scene of Facebook and Netflix.
And smartphones.
And smartphones, right.
That's the trio.
I would just say it's...
The triad.
Facebook, smartphones, and Netflix.
Yep.
And by the way, did you know that you can get Facebook and Netflix on your smartphone?
Oh my gosh.
Oh my god, that's amazing!
I have a little longer clip, which I'd like to be the last clip for me.
As our buddy, James Pennebaker from the University of Texas, has released another report.
This is the professor who I met, but before I met him, I'd already studied what he does.
He wrote the performatives paper.
Right.
We've talked about this about a year ago.
Yeah, I guess.
So performative is when politicians do this very well.
I want to tell the American people that, and then you say something.
So it doesn't mean that it's truth.
You're just telling the American people something.
No, it is true that you wanted to tell them that.
Yeah, that's correct.
That is the truth.
I wanted to tell the American people that.
And that's what I want to tell you.
It doesn't mean it's the truth.
It's the truth that I want to tell you.
That's a performative.
He has now...
It's very tricky.
I like it.
He was on NPR, a very long piece.
I clipped it down to about two and a half minutes.
Well worth it.
Where else can you really get to the meat and potatoes of this stuff?
First, about the...
Well, just listen.
It's about words that people use and how that affects their social standing, which I think is relevant to our analysis of the triad of Facebook smartphones and Netflix.
And then also the balance of relationship, how people use a particular word And what that means for their standing in the relationship.
Just listen, it becomes apparent.
Well worth listening to.
This is about how we speak.
I find it fascinating.
I really like what this guy's doing.
About 20 years ago, a psychologist at the University of Texas at Austin named James Pennebaker got interested in looking more closely at the words that we use.
Or rather, he got interested in looking more closely at a certain subset of the words that we use.
The, this, though, I... This is Pennebaker reading off a list of the kind of words that particularly interest him.
They're called function words.
Function words are essentially the filler words.
Very.
These are the words we don't pay attention to, and they're the ones that are so interesting.
Filler words.
Write that down.
Who, their, that...
Now, according to the way that Pennebaker organizes language, there's another set of words.
These content words, Pennebaker says, are heftier.
Unlike function words, they actually conjure a specific image in your mind.
He reads some examples.
School?
Family?
Live?
Friends?
Well, the way I think about it is, I speak bad Spanish.
And if I'm in a conversation, when I'm listening to the other person speak, I am just trying to find out what are they talking about.
I'm listening to what, where, when, those big, content-heavy words.
All those little words in between.
The, is, etc.
I don't In fact, says Pennebaker, even in our native language, these function words are basically invisible to us.
You can't hear them.
Even though you and I are talking, you and I are not processing what the other person says in terms of these function words, humans just aren't able to do it.
Humans aren't able to do it, but computers are.
See, one of the things that Pennebaker did was transcribe conversations that took place between people on speed dates to see how the couples used function words.
This is what he found.
We can predict by analyzing their language who will go on a date, who will match at rates better than the people themselves.
Specifically, what Pennebaker found was that in the speed dating context, when the language style of two people matched, that is, when they used these function words in similar ways at similar rates, they were much more likely to contact each other later to go on a date.
And, this is even cooler, we can even look at if we are dating.
Let's say we're a young dating couple.
The more similar we are using this language style matching metric, the more likely you and I will still be dating three months from now.
When two people are paying close attention, they use language the same.
And it's one of these things that humans do automatically.
They aren't aware of it.
He says that by analyzing people's use of function words, you can easily tell who among two people has more power in a relationship, their relative social status.
And it's amazingly simple.
Listen to the relative use of the word I. And the results are completely different from what most people would think.
The person who is the higher status uses the word I less.
I love this guy.
Are you still on your program?
No, I thought I was going to go on.
No, that's it.
That's funny because that guy, Tony Robbins, who does...
Neuro-linguistic programming.
Yeah, he's into this.
Actually, I think he trains people to do this.
And a lot of salespeople have come out of various systems.
I think his is one of them.
The old EST. Earhart sensitivity training used to also produce a lot of salespeople, although it also produces addicts to the system, which was the drawback.
Well, not for Earhart, obviously, or any of these other systems.
There's a bunch of them.
There's elements of this in Scientology.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Mirroring, all kinds of stuff like this.
Yeah, I know there's all good stuff.
So we need to be...
I really liked the case that people in a relationship, the person who uses the word I more often is more...
What did you say?
Subjective?
No?
No, they're the lesser...
In terms of status, they're below the other person.
Yes.
I this, I that, I this.
The funny thing is you kind of sense that when you're with somebody.
I'm just kind of imagining that I sense it.
But when you're with somebody who just talks about themselves and they constantly use I, you always think of them as very inferior.
At least I do.
I haven't, but now I'm going to pay attention.
I had no idea.
Maybe I'm just inferior because I say I all the time.
That's the joke.
The joke about that was enough about me.
What do you think about me?
Exactly.
Where that stems from.
And a lot of people in show business are that way.
They just talk about themselves constantly.
I have something that's off the wall, but it's part of my long-term plan to actually do my second Ebola report.
This is not about the origins of Ebola or anything like that.
It's about what is going on and what we're trying to accomplish with the current Ebola outbreak.
And this was on Frontline.
There's a pretty good Frontline thing.
Yes, I saw this.
This was...
So dramatized, then I actually wrote down some thoughts about this to talk to you about it.
Okay, well, this is the only part that I think is interesting, which is the Ebola hoax meme, which was created in Sierra Leone by, I don't know who or why, but it's been causing problems there, and I'm still part of the structure I'm beginning to see.
Let's just say this, yeah.
...by Kenema, the third largest town in Sierra Leone.
Rumors about the virus have brought people onto the streets.
A story is going round that Ebola is a hoax, a trick devised by doctors to steal people's blood.
The rioters are trying to break down the hospital gates and rescue the patients inside.
The police use tear gas and fire live bullets to disperse the rioters.
But the rumors that Ebola is a hoax mean that more victims hide in their homes, infecting their families and neighbors.
General observations.
I found this frontline documentary, except for this scene, pretty much everything they showed, it didn't seem like this huge epidemic.
There wasn't a lot.
It seemed very content-free on the visuals.
Well, we can't go in there.
We can't show this.
We only show this one woman who has fever, and she's laying outside her house.
Well, they had that one woman and her husband in the containment area, and then he died, and she lived, and she went back with the family.
Right.
I don't...
I mean, it's not like...
I mean, if you look at the numbers when this began, which was a couple of months ago, we're only up to about 1,500 dead.
This is not the movie Outbreak.
No.
Where, you know, you have the map and the whole world's dead, you know, within two weeks.
Right.
This is, I think, which brings me to what the point I'll be making about this whole thing.
I still think it's...
To the workers that have to deal with it, it's kind of out of control because they can't get anyone to go along with anything.
Can't get them to go into the containment.
Like he said, they're all staying at home, infecting everybody, and there's going to be a lot of just corpses everywhere.
I see it different.
What this is effectively doing, and just reading some headlines here, British military is being sent to fight Ebola.
Like, hey, we're here!
I got my bayonet!
I don't know what any of that has got to do.
I don't understand why they did this military thing.
I'm going to try.
I'm going to try and explain.
U.S. military will provide equipment resources to battle Ebola epidemic in Africa, Washington Post.
This is killing the economies of these countries.
That is the underreported part.
People aren't going to work.
Everything is stopped.
No one wants to bring crap in.
There's no food.
This is killing these economies.
Then that's why any military, who then, of course, they can't catch Ebola because they've got goggles and bayonets.
And they will then, it'll be a humanitarian mission.
And the first thing we do from a humanitarian standpoint is kick the Chinese out of all these places, which conveniently is where all the oil is in Nigeria.
This is, it is a brilliant strategy to grab Africa.
That's the part that...
West Africa.
But Nigeria is not West Africa.
Yeah, it is.
I would say it's more central.
I think it's considered West Africa.
Really?
Alright, West Africa then.
Well, that's where we went.
West Africa is the area that we've always had a lot of connections to.
Well, we tried to get into Nigeria with the Boko Haram, save our daughters crap.
Where's that?
Gone.
No one cares.
Ebola is great.
It is killing the economies.
You can just search around on the internet for stories, and it's at a standstill.
So nothing is moving.
People are going to start getting hungry, and they're very afraid.
And, of course, I don't know about the hoax to steal blood.
I think it's very creative.
Here in America, we have to keep up the appearance of how bad it is.
Nine minutes after the hour, there may be a lot more Ebola victims being evacuated to the United States than we are being told about.
The vice president of the Phoenix Air Group, an air ambulance company under contract with the State Department, confirms his pilots have transported, quote, a lot of other people who have been exposed to the deadly virus.
How many exactly?
He's not saying.
And one of the four Americans infected by Ebola that we have been told about has arrived at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta for treatment.
His identity is not being released.
Meanwhile, in West Africa, the outbreak continues.
The death toll near 2,300, with more than 4,200 confirmed or suspected cases.
And the World Health Organization predicts that number could soon top 20,000.
I want to show you...
This map of Africa published by researchers at Oxford shows 15 nations that experts predict are now at risk for Ebola outbreaks.
Big area.
Be afraid.
Support the military missions.
Help the poor black people in Africa.
Well, I think this is multidimensional, which I'll discuss in some other show.
All right.
I've got too many long, long clips.
I do have a long clip for today.
As an end-of-show clip?
Well, it could be.
Because I've got the music playing.
You know, I'm done.
You always complain.
This is too long.
Why don't we do it Sunday?
Let's do it Sunday.
We'll do it Sunday.
This is the Facebook case that's going before the Supreme Court.
Can we do it Sunday?
So we can have a whole Facebook sickness segment?
Yeah, we can do that.
It's time.
John, you always complain to me when we go along.
It's too long.
I do.
It's time to end the show.
And I have a fever and I'm gassy.
Oh, that's okay.
Yeah, okay.
I know you're not feeling good.
You sound great, though.
This is the funny thing about you.
You always say you're sick.
Yeah, I'm a professional.
I'm a professional.
I am a professional.
I look like death warmed over.
All right.
Well, let's end the show.
You're right.
Actually, we are over.
I didn't realize it was this late.
Yeah.
We'll be back on Sunday.
We're going to remind people to keep helping us out with contributions, especially people who never contributed.
You know, we do get, you know, they mention it when they do.
But I would like to get some newbies in here to help us out here once in a while.
Some instant nights.
That would be nice.
Indeed.
So we'll be back on Sunday coming to you from FEMA Region 6 in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. DeBorak.
We'll be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda.
I'm Joe Biden, and thank you for taking the time to listen.
Adios, mofo.
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