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	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, September 14th, 2014.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 652.
	This is no agenda.
	Shivering my butt off in the capital of the drone star state, smack in the middle of FEMA Region 6.
	From Austin in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's not cold, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackbot and Buzzkill.
	Well, there you go, everybody.
	The No Agenda Weather on the 8th.
	Thank you very much for tuning in.
	And my butt is still attached.
	Oh, man.
	Now, for us, it's rather strange to have 63 degrees in September.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah, I think so.
	It was supposed to be like 102.
	It was last year.
	This has been the coolest summer we've witnessed here in Austin.
	Global cooling is what it is.
	Exactly what it is.
	Caused by measles.
	What?
	Caused by measles.
	Wait a minute.
	The global cooling is caused by measles?
	Caused by measles was a clip that we used to death.
	I don't remember that.
	When they were promoting the measles thing, it was all the news, everything was talking about measles.
	And there was this one woman that was taken from law and order and she just dropped it in and said, caused by measles.
	I don't remember.
	Caused by measles.
	Was that the name of the thing?
	It was one of your clips, no doubt.
	Oh, yeah.
	Just look up measles, you'll find it.
	That's exactly what I'm doing.
	I got, like, measles shots.
	That doesn't seem right.
	Hmm.
	Caused by measles.
	I have to look up that one.
	I don't remember it exactly.
	Yeah, caused by measles.
	Hmm.
	Hmm.
	Okay.
	Ah!
	So anyway, yeah, it's very chilly here.
	We've had rain all day yesterday, but just the chilly part is what is surprising.
	Whereas, you know, it's been 90s, even the 90s is cool.
	Oh, it's freezing.
	For us, yeah.
	It's cold.
	What's going on, dear?
	Why are you wearing a jacket?
	90.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Huh.
	Well, you know, it's good to have a cooler weather.
	I think you don't really like the 105s.
	No, not at all.
	Not at all.
	Of course not.
	But I just find it funny that, you know, here we are.
	It's chilly.
	Yeah.
	And all the people that, you know, there was some...
	Say it again.
	There was some get-together thing.
	Something I was kind of forced to go to.
	What was that?
	When was this?
	What was this about?
	Yeah, I'm trying to think.
	It was Friday.
	Okay.
	It was the constitutional lawyer's wife was retiring from whatever she was doing.
	And so it was like a party.
	You know, on Rainy Street, which is kind of like the seedy bars of Austin.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And it was raining.
	Yeah.
	It was raining?
	Yes, it was raining.
	It was a very, very cold Friday and very cold Saturday.
	And I walk in, and I'm like, see?
	Because, of course, everyone has heard me say over and over again, global cooling.
	And now I'm getting annoying, because now it's turning true.
	Global cooling.
	Now they can't make as much fun of me.
	Here comes that global cooling.
	Kook.
	Kook.
	Another kook.
	Oh, yeah.
	Watch him say it's global cooling.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, I'm having dinner with the constitutional lawyer tomorrow night.
	But it's just a dinner between you guys?
	Yeah, just guys, exactly.
	And we need to catch up.
	You know, I've got to understand this unlawful content better, all this stuff.
	There's a lot of things that are nuanced that, you know, I'm not a lawyer yet.
	Yet?
	Notice the yet bit.
	I'm working on it.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	Alright.
	So did you hear about this kid that was, now you got three, I guess three people stuck in North Korea?
	No.
	No, I didn't hear the North Korean news.
	Yeah, well, there's two guys that are stuck in North Korea.
	I'm looking at this because I want to go to North Korea, right?
	This is like a long-standing thing.
	And they're all Americans.
	They're just throwing Americans in prison for no reason is what kind of the meme is.
	But in fact, the latest case was some young guy, goofball, Who goes to North Korea.
	He's actually clinically insane.
	He somehow gets...
	I don't know where he gets the money, but he gets to North Korea, and then as soon as he gets into the capital, he tears up his travel visa and asks for asylum.
	Hey, dude, dude.
	They immediately know he's crazy, because who the hell would do that?
	So he asks for asylum, and then he makes the claim that he wants to be imprisoned so he can write a book about the injustices of the North Korean regime.
	So they arrest him.
	Wow.
	And they give him six years of hard labor in a prison so he can write his book.
	Right.
	Well, that's a good deal.
	That's kind of like an advance, almost.
	Yeah, it's a free room and board.
	It's better than most advances, I think.
	So he gets to pound rocks with a sledgehammer.
	And the other two guys were both missionaries.
	I don't know what these Christian missionaries, but the one that left the Bible someplace so someone would pick it up.
	Yeah, that was a couple months ago.
	You don't do this stuff if you're good.
	You're going to visit to look around.
	You're not there to change anything.
	Well, all these people are spies.
	That's why they lock them up.
	Yeah.
	It makes no sense that anyone in their right mind does these things.
	No, it's just crazy.
	But I didn't know that this was still kind of on your radar for going to want to visit North Korea.
	I'm sure we can make this happen.
	Yeah, well, I mean, we've been saying that for years.
	You know, Don's going to go back again soon.
	Oh, maybe I can go with him as his entourage.
	I'm a good...
	I can do that.
	I can carry the briefcase.
	I can carry the notebook.
	And I can say, yes, sir, when he asks for anything.
	And I'm distinguished.
	That's true.
	But I only agree with that part.
	You look distinguished.
	Just can you keep your mouth closed?
	I can do that.
	I can say, yes, sir.
	No, sir.
	Good.
	Yes, here's the papers you asked for.
	Sir.
	No problem.
	Yeah.
	He's a senior by a good number of years, so it makes some sense.
	I already kind of tried.
	I'm just going to bring a bimbo over.
	I already kind of tried to get us on the next junket.
	Yeah, it didn't go over too well.
	When Don just ignores the question altogether, you know you're way off base.
	I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, it'd be kind of cool, you know, North Korea, you know, we could do a show from there.
	To a show.
	Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
	From North Korea!
	How cool would that be?
	That would be pretty cool.
	We could do it.
	We could do it.
	Well, we'd have to probably do it through one of the government buildings that actually has internet access.
	Yeah.
	Did you see, I know you referenced it in the newsletter, you saw the President's podcast.
	Yes, and it's exactly the same as his speech a few nights earlier, which I have a picture of him with that military garb, or ersatz garb, which I just looked at and couldn't resist.
	And then it's the same as almost identical to what he's told Chuck Todd on Meet the Press.
	Right, he maintains the same speech.
	Well, I couldn't get past the first four seconds.
	Well, it was the same exact bullcrap.
	But then some weirdo comes on at the end because they do balance on C-SPAN when they have a designated hitter.
	Yeah, they show the other side.
	American League that comes on at actually the Republican Party.
	And this guy is some dork.
	He comes on.
	I have a clip of him.
	And he's the way he comes right on.
	His name's got some name on there.
	Tobin?
	No, it's not Tobin.
	I think it is Tobin.
	Randy Tobin?
	No.
	Isn't he an author?
	What's on there?
	I have to go get the clip list.
	Wait, you don't have your clip list with you?
	It's over on the printer.
	Well, why don't you go over on the printer and I'll play the piece that I couldn't get past when the President started by saying...
	As Commander-in-Chief, my highest priority is the security of the American people.
	Now, I'm always wondering what his highest priority is.
	I went back to a couple other of our podcasts from the President.
	Hi, everybody.
	Our top priority as a nation, and my top priority as president, must be doing everything we can to reignite the engine of America's growth.
	Okay, that's a little different than that, what he just said.
	My top priority is simple.
	To do everything in my power to fight for middle-class families and give every American the tools they need to reach the middle.
	So I'm very confused when he does this.
	As commander-in-chief, my highest priority is the security of the American people.
	However, I'm going to give him a little bit of leeway because he does say as commander in chief and not as president.
	And I decided to look up what the responsibilities are of the president as the commander in chief.
	And there's an extrapolation, which I thought was pretty good.
	It's what they teach kids in school about the roles and responsibilities of the president.
	Really seven chief of state.
	And this is from scholastic.com, which I thought was good.
	This is what our kids learned about the actual role and responsibility of the President of the United States.
	So as Chief of State, his responsibilities include awarding medals to the winners of college scholarships, congratulating astronauts on their journey into space, greeting visitors to the White House, and making a patriotic speech on the 4th of July.
	What?
	That's on the list?
	Yeah, well this is just, let's go to Chief Executive.
	Some examples of responsibilities.
	Now this would be what he's referring to here as the, oh no, Commander Chief is foreign.
	So Chief Executive appointing someone to serve as head of the CIA, holding a cabinet meeting to discuss government business, reading reports about problems of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
	That's interesting.
	Chief diplomat.
	Examples of responsibilities.
	Traveling to London to meet with British leaders.
	Says that on there?
	Yes, this is really good.
	Entertaining Japanese diplomats in the White House.
	With geishas.
	Writing a message or a letter to leaders of the Soviet Union.
	But here it comes.
	Commander-in-Chief.
	Examples of responsibilities include inspecting a Navy yard.
	Deciding in wartime whether to bomb foreign cities or calling out troops to stop a riot.
	You know, maybe he learned his role and responsibilities from Scholastic.com.
	That's what it sounds like.
	It's disturbing that this is what...
	I'm not sure this guy's name is Randy Tobin, but whatever it is, that's what I put on this clip.
	So he comes on after the president as the cleanup hitter, and he's supposed to do, I don't know what he's supposed to do, because it was the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life.
	He's wearing a cowboy hat, big, giant, 1970s hipster's glasses, behind a green screen behind him.
	It's like a clown, and he's not even in office.
	He's the head of the Arizona Senate or something.
	I'm Andy Tobin.
	I'm the Republican candidate for Arizona's first congressional district.
	Before I begin, we've had terrible flooding in our state this week.
	It sounds like he's on an old 78 record.
	There's terrible flooding, water's gotten into the coax.
	Several Arizonans have lost their lives.
	Our hearts go out to their families, and I want to thank our first responders.
	Their service inspires us always.
	Yeah, it does.
	I'm running for Congress for a simple reason.
	What?
	Our state's under attack from the federal government.
	Okay.
	Day after day, the powers that be in Washington, D.C. try to bury us in more regulation and more havoc.
	This has got to stop.
	Okay.
	Not just here, but everywhere.
	Do we have to listen to all of this?
	No.
	Thank you.
	It's a mess.
	How does that be?
	It's one big hot mess of nothing.
	Nothing is any good.
	You know, you realize today, even though we didn't promote the idea, it's 9-14-14.
	Ooh.
	Big opportunity we missed there.
	Big op.
	Big op.
	All right, I think we should get into the caliphate just to start it off, just to get this out of the way, because, of course, you know, more annoyances on our radar.
	We will follow them to the gates of hell.
	We have the best producers in the universe.
	laughter Is it ISIS or ISIL? Well, to start it off, I'd like to play a clip that one of our producers noticed on the previous episode of your No Agenda show.
	As we often point out, it is very, it is nay.
	It is impossible.
	Nay.
	Yeah, isn't that old English?
	N-A-H? Nay?
	No, no, it's N-E-E, I think, isn't it?
	N-A-Y, maybe?
	Nay?
	No, I think it's N-E-E. In Dutch, it also is just nay.
	It is impossible for the brain to continuously trick the body or the other way around when the truth really needs to come out.
	People will just say the truth.
	They'll blurt it out.
	They will blurt it out.
	And it is flabbergasting every single time we catch it.
	I didn't catch this one.
	Peter O'Rourke This is Jay Carney as he was being introduced as the new spokeshole shill on CNN. And listen to what he says about the threat that is ISIS-ISIL-IS. To answer your specific question, yes, I could envision it because I left in late June and the threat posed by ISIS was already apparent.
	Did you hear it?
	Prosed?
	Prosed.
	That would mean the threat written, the threat posed, made up.
	Meh.
	Maybe.
	How do you come up with...
	I'm not going to go for it all, because it's a usage that I've never heard him do before.
	But I think he...
	He said posed, there's no doubt about that.
	I think he meant to say posed.
	No, that's what he meant to say, posed.
	But then posed comes out, that's...
	Well, play it again, and let's see if there's an R in the context that would make him just make a mistake by having a scrambled brain.
	To answer your specific question, yes, I could envision it, because I left in late June, and the threat posed by ISIS was already apparent.
	They had already moved dramatically across and into Iraq and taken so much territory.
	I don't know, man.
	There wasn't anything in there unless he was thinking prospect.
	Proposed?
	Proposed?
	Could be proposed.
	So he was thinking, this is my thinking on this, if I'm going to deconstruct it.
	He was thinking proposed, and then he said prosed.
	Right.
	word in your brain proposed and then posed.
	Now, if we play it back one third time, can we listen to it?
	And then when he says pros think proposed, try to answer your specific question.
	Yes, I could envision it because I left in late June and and the the the threat proposed Proposed by ISIS was already apparent.
	They had already moved dramatically across and into Iraq.
	A threat and propose is almost kind of the same thing.
	I think a threat proposed.
	Could be.
	Here's what we're going to do.
	Okay, you can do that.
	I don't know.
	But yeah, there's something there.
	He definitely had a different word in his brain.
	But I don't think he meant to use the word pro.
	No, I'm sure he didn't mean to use it.
	No, no, but I don't think that's a word that is what he was...
	I don't think that's what came about, him blurting out prose as though it was written.
	I thought it was an interesting catch regardless.
	It was a good catch.
	We should have caught it ourselves.
	Now, Josh Earnest, who is the guy who took over for Carney, is a...
	He's a pencil.
	I mean, the guy is no more...
	He's just a pencil with an eraser head on it.
	This guy is dumb.
	And he's trying to be...
	He is almost the...
	It is a life-imitating art.
	Did you ever watch the Veep?
	Yeah, I've watched it a couple times.
	So at the end, she becomes president.
	Spoiler alert.
	And then her press secretary is doing exactly what Josh Earnest is doing here, making jokes with the press corps that fall completely flat.
	And I found it just like, wow, this is just like TV. What does a victory look like here?
	I mean, you've talked about destroying ISIL. I honestly don't know what that means.
	What does it mean?
	I didn't bring my Webster's Dictionary with me up here.
	I think that, well, you know, it's only...
	Everyone's like, what, you dick?
	Just answer the question.
	I think that's a pretty illustrative phrase to use to describe the situation that we envision.
	We've talked about the threat that ISIL poses in the context of foreign fighters.
	We've talked about the threat that ISIL poses in the context of gaining the kind of safe haven that would allow them to plot and carry out conspiracies that could lead to catastrophic attacks on the West or even on the American homeland.
	Could...
	Is anyone sitting there really believing this?
	Or does this just flow over them like diarrhea they've smelt before and don't care to listen to?
	I don't understand how people can't stand up and say, what are you talking about?
	Those are the two principal threats that we are concerned about as it relates directly to American national security.
	There are other interests that we have here.
	There's clearly the ISIL forces wreaking havoc in this already volatile region of the world.
	Wreaking havoc in this already volatile region of the world.
	This bunch of vacant deserts.
	Thank you.
	Sand is not in our best interest.
	We're wreaking havoc!
	Take that, sand!
	You see the lines of these trucks going down the middle of nowhere?
	There's not even a sagebrush in that area.
	Hey, sand!
	Sand!
	Look, I've got you!
	Sand!
	Sand!
	Yeah, wreaking havoc.
	We have, therefore, an interest in acting with the international community to try to stabilize the situation.
	We can do that in a way that doesn't require the introduction of American ground combat troops to Iraq.
	Now, I'm glad he did this.
	Because at this point, it is no longer acceptable as a journalistic phrase to say, boots on the ground.
	I'm sorry, journalists.
	You need to now start quantifying what that means.
	Aren't you tired of this, John?
	This boots on the ground, boots on the ground, boots on the ground.
	Well, it's not going to help, because Buck McKeon, who is the head of armed services, he's the...
	The Republican, who's the head of the Armed Services Committee, he went to the American Enterprise Institute and gave a long, boring speech.
	Which you watched, I'm sure.
	I did.
	And the guy's a douche.
	And he was promoting.
	He's from California.
	I'd love to find out what...
	I could look him up and find out what district he's in.
	I think you could take this guy out of...
	You could get him voted out because he just wants to spend more of our money.
	Boots on the ground is his theme.
	Here's a clip of boots on the ground you can play and he's going to keep with this phrase.
	That's how we pull these nations together.
	Now look, this is no light lift.
	The man who held together the most difficult alliance in history, Dwight D. Eisenhower, had it right when he said, only strength can cooperate.
	Weakness can only beg.
	Though many allies have strong doubts about the Obama administration's willpower, America still carries weight in the Middle East.
	I do believe that we can bring Sunnis and Shias and Kurds and even Turks together.
	To make that happen, the President needs a team of diplomats.
	And soldiers on the ground, ushering every player towards the same purpose.
	Not just this week, but on a sustained basis.
	There was another side to this boringness, and that was Harry Reid.
	It was probably going on at the exact same time that this guy was speaking.
	Harry Reid was announcing the bonanza that everyone has been waiting for of the increased spending.
	The proposal that the president has given to the American people requires immediate congressional action in granting the administration the authority to equip and train Syrian rebels under Title X to fight ISIS. Now, did you hear that, that Title X? Have you ever heard about this, the difference between Title X and Title 50?
	No, not specifically.
	Yeah, so this is the General Powers and Functions title, US Code Title 10.
	Then when it's Title 50, then it's pretty much CIA only, what the money is appropriated for.
	When it's US Code Title 10, it is General Funds We're good to go.
	We are going to give money to rebels, formerly known as terrorists.
	This is great.
	Critical to building this international coalition that is so necessary.
	I expect this proposal to pass Congress before the end of next week.
	Our colleagues in the House are currently discussing exactly how they're going to proceed.
	I expect this proposal to pass Congress with broad bipartisan support.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, I have no doubt it's going to pass with broad bipartisan support because that is the history of our country.
	I didn't put this clip together, but this is a clip of the past four different presidents, let's put it that way, when it comes to Iraq.
	And it's just sad.
	It's just sad that we're still here doing this.
	Just two hours ago, Allied Air Forces began an attack on military targets in Iraq and Kuwait.
	These attacks continue as I speak.
	Ground forces are not engaged.
	This conflict started August 2nd, when the dictator of Iraq invaded a small and helpless neighbor.
	That is why, on the unanimous recommendation of my national security team, including the Vice President, the Secretary of Defense, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Secretary of State, and the National Security Advisor, I have ordered a strong, sustained series of airstrikes against Iraq.
	My fellow citizens, at this hour, American...
	At what point do we look at our history and say, hmm, this seems to be something we're doing a lot of?
	What is the point?
	We're talking about a span, if we take it to the end of Obama's administration, of what, 28 years?
	Yes.
	I'm just going and bombing and blowing money on Iraq.
	I've got bumps.
	There's an entry over.
	I'm going to go film this thing.
	This is an entry to US-80 that will break your axle on any car if you're not careful.
	And it's like a wreck.
	And they're, meanwhile, spending money on this stupid war.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	I was at the dinner table last night.
	Buzzkill Jr.
	was reading something, and he's going to send me some documentation.
	I might be able to document this.
	He says that the real analysts of the ISIL, ISIS, whatever you want to call it...
	It's structured after anonymous.
	It's a headless structure.
	There's no leadership.
	And what you can do if you were in Iraq is just buy one of those...
	That black flag is a generic flag.
	Get yourself a flag, a Toyota, some white gym shoes, and you're good to go.
	Yeah, because that black flag, people have to realize, is not an ISIS-ISIL flag.
	It is a generic Islam flag.
	It's been around for a long time.
	You can look it up.
	You can buy that flag.
	So you buy that flag, you form a little group, drive around, shoot people, do whatever you want.
	It doesn't make any difference.
	But from the sounds of it, it makes it impossible...
	It's an undefeatable situation, which is perfect if you just want to waste American money.
	Now you can call it waste, or you can call it stimulating the economy.
	It's not, though.
	If it was stimulating the economy, I'd be all in.
	It depends on what business you own.
	If you're in the Raytheon business, it's stimulating your economy.
	It's like the CEO's salary, but it's still not really doing much good.
	So the idea now is that we're going to be funding the war machine, and we're going to do that with a coalition.
	And this is a little problematic, because not everybody really wants in, or they want kind of in, but Germany and Turkey said, well, you know, we'll let you in the door, you know, we can talk about that.
	So our boy there in the State Department, Matt Lee...
	Got into Marie's face about this, and she got huffy.
	And this, of course, is yet another episode from the continuing saga of That Odd Married Couple, The Matt and Marie Show!
	Well, Matt and Marie, they're talking sensibly.
	They're sitting in a tree.
	K-I-S-S-I-N-G.
	It's the Matt and Marie Show.
	It's the Matt and Marie Show.
	Starring Matt Lee!
	Also starring Marie Hart!
	I don't know if we should play the clip even after that.
	I mean...
	So we've already seen countries come out and say this.
	We sent out a 40-page document last night outlining commitments and contributions countries were going to or are already making.
	So I'm not sure there's confusion about the fact that many countries want to contribute.
	What the process we are going through now, a deliberate...
	Prudent process.
	Talking to every country, what role can you play?
	What role can you play?
	What are we all going to do together?
	That process will be ongoing.
	But I would strongly reject the notion that for any reason that you mentioned that this is a flailing effort.
	Every day, more countries sign up.
	Today, more countries committed more through this communique.
	What is it that the Saudis have agreed to do in terms of these training bases?
	Well, and again, I can let the Saudis speak for themselves.
	The Saudis apparently don't want to speak to it, so that's the problem.
	And I think, you know, you have the Germans saying they're not going to participate militarily.
	You have the Turks saying that.
	You have the British Foreign Secretary clearly uninformed about his own government's position on this.
	Why do you always focus on what people say they won't do instead of the plethora of things they've said they will do?
	Meow!
	Oh, God.
	Is that the best you can do?
	Why do you do that, Matt?
	Bully.
	Why is that what you...
	That's actually not an unfair question.
	That's not an unfair question.
	I want to know.
	You tell me this or you get out of this house right now.
	I don't think when we focus on our effort here.
	In terms of the Saudis, we're in discussions with them about this specific program that the president asked for funding for.
	They have agreed to help with part of it.
	Obviously, we can get more details out later as those are hashed out.
	So it's not fully cooked yet?
	Well, the discussions are ongoing.
	The Secretary is on the ground in Jeddah and is meeting with the king of Saudi Arabia this evening.
	So let's wait until...
	I know there's a desire for everything to happen in real time, but let's wait and see how those meetings go.
	But they have agreed to play a role here in some way.
	Everything does happen in real time, right?
	I think he said honey even after that.
	He didn't say it.
	Everything does happen in real time, honey.
	You know what I meant, Matt.
	Do you have any more questions on this before I move on?
	Yeah, I just wanted to, I mean, you're not in a position now to say exactly what it is that the Saudi contribution will be as it regards these training days.
	He's committed to play a role here and we'll have more details available.
	Control your woman, Matt.
	I love their show.
	Always a comedy actress.
	I'm telling you, they better be having sex because they deserve each other.
	Can you imagine?
	Yes, of course I can imagine.
	Yeah, you could.
	I can totally see those.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	So, what is also not being controlled...
	The closest to sex they're ever going to have is that jingle.
	Marie has something interesting.
	She's got some mean, librarian sex appeal.
	Oh, yeah.
	She looks like she might be funny.
	And I think...
	She could just shatter up.
	Hey.
	Hey.
	And Matt looks like, yeah, I think a lot of women go for kind of that older, swarthy, news hound kind of guy.
	Yeah, all that's missing is a cap with the press thing sticking in it.
	Yeah, maybe.
	Maybe.
	A fedora of some sort.
	So what they're not able to do is control Foley's mother.
	This cannot be...
	Something went wrong in all of this.
	We had the kids in that studio with the set falling apart.
	Stuff falling off the wall.
	I want to say something here.
	Foley's mother...
	She wasn't read in and I agree.
	She's kind of screwing up the scenario because if this was a CIA operation and he was an agent and he was just being extracted, it would, what she's bitching about in this clip, I believe it's indicates to me that there's something there's, there was another, I believe it's indicates to me that there's something there's, there was another, there was a scenario being played out that she And her complaints actually indicate to me that this was a scenario, I think I agree with you.
	Did you have a clip or should I play this one?
	It's the clip you have.
	Go.
	In her new interview with CNN, James Foley's mother says she was threatened by government officials that she would be prosecuted if she raised money to free her kidnapped son.
	We were told we could not raise ransom, that it was illegal, we might be prosecuted.
	Today, Secretary of State John Kerry says he's unaware of any officials suggesting criminal charges.
	I am totally unaware and would not condone anybody that I know of within State Park making such a statement, so I don't know about it.
	I would not condone anybody that I know of.
	Please, skirt around it some more, Kerry.
	He's caught off guard with this.
	So she was going out of her way to try...
	Because she wasn't read in, and she wanted to...
	Now, we had a clip before...
	I don't know if it's a number of shows back.
	It was the 5 million versus the 100 million?
	Well, there was that, but the clip that I'm thinking about discussed...
	The fact that the United States does not, like all the other countries...
	Negotiate.
	They do not negotiate and pay ransoms, as opposed to France and all these other countries actually pay the ransom.
	It becomes a very profitable business for terrorists.
	We don't pay the ransom.
	And the kicker to that clip was, but if you want to pay a ransom, it's expected that the parents or the company or somebody else will pay the ransom.
	So it was in the cards for her to collect money to pay the ransom.
	But they told her not to because it would be screwing up the scenario, indicating to me the whole thing was rigged.
	It was phony.
	Why didn't they get her into this?
	I mean, this was a botch.
	Yes, yes.
	And it's the same thing with Sean Smith, the agent in Benghazi whose mom was promised by Hillary.
	And she was talking about how cold these people were.
	And all they did is show up for when his body came back.
	You remember that?
	Yeah.
	Kid's mom?
	She was complaining that they all said you were nice and then they were just...
	For the camera, they were nice.
	So here's what bothers me about this.
	Both of these mothers are obviously emotionally distraught, but are being ignored, if not shunned, by the feminists.
	Where is all the moms against guns and women, war on women, where are they all rallying behind these mothers just because they come across a bit confused or portrayed as confused?
	They are dismissed.
	No one is coming to their defense.
	No one is coming to their aid.
	No one.
	There's not a single woman anywhere is saying, hold on a second, these mothers are trying to say something and they're being brushed away as morons.
	Yeah, no, there's nothing like that going on.
	Now let's get back to this coalition.
	Which is now in the past 10 hours.
	Is it a coalition of the willing?
	Well, there's not a lot of willing.
	That's the problem.
	And Watermelon Head Kerry, John F. Kerry, is now in Egypt attempting to get the Egyptians on board.
	And Al-Sisi has said, okay, but this has to be a coalition that goes after terror everywhere.
	And this is new.
	And now the positioning is, we're not just going after ISIS, this coalition.
	We're going after terror everywhere.
	Which could be right here in Austin, for all I know.
	No, no, it is in Austin.
	He came to Cairo hoping to regain the confidence of Egyptians after the severe repression of former President Mohamed Morsi's supporters.
	Egypt has a critical role to play in publicly renouncing the ideology that ISIL disseminates.
	He said the coalition will leave no stone unturned in their quest to overthrow the Islamic State group.
	It will be our goal in every meeting that we have on the international basis, together, working to degrade and ultimately to defeat ISIL wherever it exists.
	And I find it...
	Very disturbing still that a lot of people still say ISIS, even though the president was very consistent with ISIL. I-S-I-L. So you can go defeat ISIS, but that's not the same that the president's doing.
	Here's a question for you, and I probably noticed this before, but I've never brought it up.
	Why?
	Because they don't use this term anywhere else.
	I've never heard it before.
	What is this point of using the term degrade?
	This is a new term.
	Yes.
	Well, this comes back to the, are we at war?
	And for obvious legal reasons and political reasons, the president refuses to say we are at war.
	This is now degrade and destroy.
	You see, it's a subtle difference.
	This is about counterterrorism.
	This is not about a war, which is all about who has the authority.
	So if we call it a war, then we really have to go to Congress.
	We just want Congress to just sign the checks.
	We don't need your approval.
	Just sign the checks.
	That's the only reason.
	I don't see any other reason for skirting around the word war.
	As for the idea of going after terrorists everywhere, so I'm watching this show.
	Another presentation on C-SPAN of some sort.
	I have a note on this guy.
	But anyway, this character is speaking about...
	Oh, this is the guy that heads up or is the deputy head of the National Counterterrorism Center giving testimony before Congress.
	And I want to play this.
	This is a new term to use.
	I want to play this.
	And tell me if you can spot the new term.
	Okay.
	Let me also say a few quick words about homegrown violent extremists.
	The boundless online virtual environment we see today, combined with terrorists' increasingly sophisticated use of social media, makes it increasingly difficult for us to protect our youth from messaging that is designed to radicalize and motivate to action homegrown violent extremists.
	We at NCTC are working very closely with our partners at DHS, at FBI, and the Department of Justice to inform and equip families, communities, local governments, and local institutions, all of whom provide the best defense and have the greatest ability to counter the narrative of violent extremism in their communities.
	Despite our efforts, however, HVEs remain the most likely immediate threat to the homeland, individual action by individual HVEs.
	We expect that the overall level of HVE activity to remain about the same as what we've seen in recent years over the course of the next year.
	And by that I mean we would expect to see a handful of uncoordinated and mostly unsophisticated plots emanating from a pool of HVEs that amounts to up to a few hundred individuals.
	Last year's Boston bombing certainly underscored the threat from HVEs who are motivated, often with little or no warning, to act violently by themselves or in small groups.
	Now, was he saying H-V-E or H-A-E? H-V-E. High value equipment?
	No, try again.
	Home vegetated extremists?
	Homegrown violent extremists.
	I was close!
	H-V-E. If you listen to the very beginning, he says it about three times.
	Homegrown violent extremists.
	Yeah, I got thrown off by the V. And then he says HVE, and he transitions that to HVE, and it makes it sound like a truck or something that's got a machine gun on the back.
	Homegrown, violent extreme.
	This is very good.
	What are we going to do with these HVEs, I'm asking you, Adam?
	What are we going to do with these HVEs?
	There's a bunch of HVEs marching today.
	There's a bunch of HVs coming down.
	It's like militarizing.
	It's a military-style term.
	There's a reason for this.
	Yes, there is a reason for this.
	This is probably the same reason that they showed Obama.
	And anyone who got the newsletter should have looked at this photo.
	picture that makes him look like a general, an army general rather than a president.
	And it wasn't by coincidence.
	And the fact that most of the time it could stay in that position.
	Somebody sent me a photo, another photo taken apparently at the press conference.
	Yeah, it was a different angle.
	It was a different angle.
	I think that was shot by the press photographer.
	The White House press photographer was lower.
	And it was actually even creepier, the photo.
	But the one I had that was shown in the newsletter that people should open and check out, I thought was very...
	It was not a coincidence.
	It was done on purpose.
	And I thought it was crease...
	I'm seeing now this term appears to have been recently invoked by a holder, which makes total sense, which means there is a legal reasoning behind this use.
	And I see FBI.gov publishing in February of 2013 the term homegrown violent extremism.
	Hmm.
	Okay, well we have to keep our eye on this.
	That's a good catch, John.
	That's a very good catch.
	Okay, then I get to do a good catch.
	This unfortunately won't work too well for you through the Skype line, but this is a small piece of audio from the most recent beheading video.
	And this is, did you see this third video?
	No, I didn't get around to going over to look at it.
	Was it the same guy?
	Was it Jihad John?
	Yes, the same guy.
	He's still holding the knife in the left hand.
	Now, there's a different background they've used.
	So now it's somehow there's a big hill of sand behind them and then nothing but blue sky.
	So...
	Just a different shot from the...
	Yeah, that's kind of what...
	Was there wind blowing on him?
	A little bit of wind blowing, but no sand kicking up.
	And of course, we had the...
	There's no sand there.
	That's the reason.
	We had David Haynes do his little...
	Read his little script.
	Completely calm.
	And with the mic dressed nicely.
	Again, the lav wire underneath the orange shirt.
	That's good.
	And then, of course, when Jihad Johnny, whatever his name is, it's his turn to deliver his lines.
	They stop tape, switch microphone, and they take it off of David Haynes.
	They only have one good mic.
	It's a cheap operation.
	They've got one good mic.
	Hey, we've got the Sennheiser.
	This Radio Shack mic isn't working.
	And they're out of business.
	I can't get a new one.
	Now I have some biographical information on David Haynes I want to discuss in a moment, but They'd made a mistake in this video.
	And, of course, we have the original, which was once again discovered by that fabulous outfit site, SITE, who are the only ones who seem to be able to discover these videos, in the weekend, no less.
	Oh, jeez.
	They're really good.
	They are just so...
	And, of course, they only charge $2,500 a month for the translations they do for intelligence organizations.
	But they're the ones that keep coming up with this.
	I'm so, so impressed.
	The work they're doing.
	And so this is the same script.
	Then he grabs the guy, right hand on his chin, and starts sawing his throat with the left hand.
	We see no blood, we see nothing squirting, but we do hear sound.
	Now, you know the little knife he's using there, John.
	Yeah, so it's actually a Sharpie pen, but he pretends it's a knife.
	What kind of sound would that make in the first three seconds of you sawing into someone's neck with no blood?
	If it was just soft flesh, which I think he begins with, it wouldn't make any noise.
	That's interesting, because there's noise.
	It makes noise on this tape.
	I'm going to play it very loudly, see if you can hear it.
	Could you hear that?
	Could you hear it?
	No.
	So first you hear the wind blowing, then you hear...
	Yeah, I heard the wind blowing.
	No, I didn't hear it.
	So they've added...
	Well, it's Skype.
	They're speeded is what you're telling us.
	Yeah, they've added in the sound of a knife cutting on stone or something.
	Huh.
	This is a mistake, people.
	Does anyone look at this?
	Does anyone listen to this?
	No, nobody gives a crap.
	Cutting the knife on the guy's neck is not going to make this sound.
	They sweetened it up with that.
	Sure.
	They got a bigger budget for this last one.
	Okay.
	They got a new green screen.
	They got a new background.
	They got some post-money.
	They could probably have a copy of Final Cut Pro.
	And in this case, it's Final Cut.
	Hello.
	Yeah, it's a Final Cut sound effect.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, go on.
	Now, of course, no one is really talking about David Haynes other than that he's British and he was an aid worker.
	Just helping out poor Muslims.
	Right, that is the meme.
	He's a good guy.
	He's helping the Muslims, you bastards.
	Has anyone looked any deeper into what he was doing?
	Nobody has bothered.
	According to the BBC, in April of 2011, Mr.
	Haynes joined the charity Handicap International and became the head of its mission in war-torn Libya.
	According to the Handicapped International website, Handicapped International Federation operated a $141 million budget to implement and manage 315 programs in 59 countries.
	The institutional partners and foundations that helped to fuel our budget included the United States Agency for International Development, USAID, the United States Department of State.
	So that is pretty much a CIA operation.
	The BBC further says, Well, who funds nonviolent Peace Force?
	Well, let's see.
	We have grants from government agencies and other NGOs from Belgium, the European Commission, UNICEF, UNDP, Australia, Norway, and, of course, the United States Agency for International Development.
	And then most recently, Haynes worked for ACTED, ACTED. This is a French aid agency.
	No, he was working for a French aid agency.
	It was 10 days before he got kidnapped that they worked for ACTED. ACTED's mission, or vocation as they say, is to support vulnerable populations affected by wars, natural disasters, and or economic and social crises, and to accompany them in building a better future, thus contributing to the Millennium Development Goals.
	I don't have to tell you who this is funded by, do I? Not really.
	United Nations Population Fund, Asian Development Bank, World Bank, Open Society.
	Come on, people.
	Can't you just get, like, people who aren't connected to anything...
	No, of course not.
	This is their job.
	This is like...
	It's so obvious.
	Why would you do anything other...
	These guys are already making a salary, and now this is part of their job, so they go do this.
	Yeah.
	And they don't have to...
	There's no bonuses involved.
	You don't have to pay any extra money.
	And think about it.
	The guy's probably going, oh, this is so good.
	I can change my face, change my name.
	I don't have to go back to my annoying family.
	There could be an element of that with a couple of these guys.
	Unless you have anything else, I have just one final clip, which to me is the kicker of all of this and really, really takes it down home to where we're at.
	Unless you got anything else, because I'm kind of done.
	Well, I'm looking while you do this.
	Do you find anything?
	No, I was hoping you were going to do that.
	Are you just going to finish it up?
	Well, I do have one thing that I just want to do.
	Actually, this can be done in a different way, but I do have this.
	No, I'll do these differently.
	I can finish it up?
	This morning.
	Dan Rather, and maybe it was some other news guy, I didn't recognize him, but Dan Rather, of course, was on CNN talking about...
	Now, Dan Rather is...
	And I like the way he phrases everything.
	He's like, I'm ambiguous.
	He understands exactly what's going on.
	And what's cool about Rather is he says it, but doesn't really say, I'm on to you, a-holes, like we do.
	But he kind of says it and pushes it out there, and then it gets a little maligned.
	It was very interesting to listen to his take on this ISIL. Where do you come down on this?
	Well, it depends on the hour of the day.
	It's a difficult call, but I think we have to see clearly.
	This, by the way, is the best performative I've ever heard.
	Depends on the hour of the day.
	We have to see clearly.
	Go ahead, Dan.
	Say what you mean.
	This is the first social media war.
	The way the Vietnam War was the first television war, this is the first social media war.
	ISIS has proved to be very adept, very talented, if you will.
	You always hope that evil won't be.
	They're very talented at tweeting and Facebooking, John.
	Very talented.
	I think he's wrong because I think these social media wars began with...
	Well, Hillary was...
	She's the one who initiated all this stuff with her group of tech experts.
	Right.
	And the internet in a box and all the rest of it.
	So I think he's right on one hand, but not that it's the first.
	This is just the culmination.
	Oh, I think the point he's making...
	Is that the way it's being played now on news as social media is fact and truth and here's a YouTube video, I think that's what he means.
	Yeah, well, you might mean that, but that specific accusation we've been doing for over two years.
	Hello?
	In ratcheting up the hysteria, ratcheting up the image of their influence far beyond what their actual military capabilities are, we have to understand, the media and the country has to understand, a lot of this is about the psychology of propaganda.
	Think about it.
	Three beheadings.
	And by the way, I say in my own mind, are we certain that they've actually beheaded these people?
	Oh, I love it.
	I love rather.
	Thank you, Dan.
	It's not an idiot.
	No, but this is why I like what he's saying.
	He's slipping that in.
	No one says, what?
	What?
	You question authority?
	Citizen, what's wrong with you?
	But assuming that they have, that three beheadings are enough to move American public opinion, change our foreign policy, and take this nation to war.
	That's a point that Freed Zakaria made in our last hour, saying nothing has changed about Isaacs except these videos.
	This is, to me, the most troublesome part of this.
	First of all, we should note that nobody has shown the most graphic of pictures.
	At least nobody except the most fringe part of the media.
	It's accessible online, but even some websites that usually show this stuff have said they're not going to show it.
	I love this part of the conversation.
	This guy is saying, oh, no one has shown the really gory parts.
	No, there are none.
	There are no gory parts.
	Except for the Photoshop head at the end, which is not even video.
	It's just, it's a Photoshop.
	And then this, this jabroni or whatever his name is from CNN, they say, oh, even some of the websites that normally show all the horrible things saying, we're not going to show it.
	And I'm just sitting here saying to myself, wow.
	Look how little effort it takes.
	So little effort.
	It's the same day.
	It's a one-day shoot.
	You get your four guys.
	Maybe they have ten.
	I don't know.
	And they do a promo after each one.
	It's like, hey, grab this guy by the head, and we'll do a promo for the next time.
	It's the same template.
	It's the same Final Cut Pro template they're using every time.
	It takes so little for the establishment to...
	Take this and run.
	But the most important thing is this.
	If you're asking the intelligence agencies or experts how big a threat to the United States is ISIS, there's a lot of debate.
	Do they have power beyond where they've established a physical presence?
	The pictures seem to tell us something different.
	It's what I would call emotional knowledge.
	Where could Dan rather take this?
	I mean, when you talk about propaganda, do you talk about it?
	I don't know, but I would say you could take it by saying this sounds like a crock of crap.
	Well, wait.
	Wait for it.
	I think this guy was put in to counterbalance whatever Dan Rather was going to say.
	That's not what I'm realizing.
	Like, oh man, Rather's going to say the truth.
	Shut him up.
	Then they can sneak across the Mexican border and spread Ebola virus, which at least one public official has.
	I'm telling you, Dan Rather sitting there telling the truth, saying, I don't even know if we beheaded, this is real beheadings.
	This guy is saying, they could come across the Mexican border and blow up a dirty Ebola bomb.
	So this is the two sides.
	This is a beautiful piece.
	And it tends to force, I think, our policymakers.
	What?
	Who is this guy?
	I can't.
	I couldn't get a name.
	I know.
	We'll find out.
	You've got to find out who this guy was.
	He is the worst.
	He's a total shill.
	And he shouldn't even be on television.
	CNN should be a shame.
	No, wait.
	Wait until the rather comes back in.
	It gets funnier.
	Into taking decisions that they might not take absent the emotional punch of those pictures.
	They tend to maybe say more than what reality lets them say.
	And where the media, and I include myself in this criticism, where we're short, we don't talk about context, background, history.
	We just push the pictures forward.
	And having said to you before, I'm ambivalent about it.
	I generally want to err on the side.
	Listen, my job is to put the information out there.
	He's saying, I'm putting, we're just showing pictures.
	He's saying this is bull crap.
	Others decide.
	But your conscience, when you say lecture of news, conscience be your guide says, you know, this is really helping other guys.
	But we have to understand that the shock of the beheadings will begin to fade a little bit as time goes along.
	And ISIS, smart as they are, and they're very smart with their slick videos, I would argue that they're in the same league in the social media war context as Hitler was in the 1930s in their use of propaganda.
	Yeah!
	Hitler card.
	Good one, Dan.
	Wow.
	Good one.
	That they'll go to something else, something else for shock value when the shock of the beheadings begins to fade off.
	Yeah, what can they do?
	Want to put something in the red book?
	Well, you know, again, this all sounds like Hillary.
	Not her specifically, but Hillary's old operation, which was at this, you know, he's talking about that they're in, like, in the big leagues.
	Uh-huh.
	And this sounds to me like us.
	Yeah.
	The only people that are in the big leagues with social networking is us.
	Yeah.
	Not some boneheads.
	Some boneheads.
	This is bullcrap.
	Yeah.
	How did they get adept?
	It's very skilled.
	Well, because we trained them.
	Yeah.
	It's Hillary's techno experts.
	It's our consultants.
	It's...
	This is the largest psychological operation performed in modern day history.
	Against the American public.
	Against the population of the world, John.
	Against the world, you're right.
	So we need to be thinking about that.
	So are we at the point, then, where we shouldn't be broadcasting?
	This gets better.
	Yes, we are at the point where we shouldn't be broadcasting.
	Still images from these videos.
	I don't see how you can put that genie back in the bottle.
	And it's a genie, all right.
	You know, back in the...
	Toward the end of the 19th century, William Marcy Tweed or Rand Tammany Hall was said to have said about Thomas Nass cartoons, stop the damn pictures.
	I don't care what people write because my constituents can't read, but those damn pictures they understand.
	And we can see much of our history, Civil War, Vietnam.
	All right, Dan, wrap it up with some more Hitler talk.
	Images have had an enormous influence.
	What I think is useful or think would be necessary is to find some kind of Let's call it social media literacy.
	Ah, maybe we need some filters or legislation.
	We are able to put these pictures side by side with other arguments.
	And my big concern, and I saw this in the Iran hostage crisis, we see it over and over again, the visceral images overwhelm the rational abstract analysis.
	Well, we're going to say something.
	I think it was a quote from Hitler himself, if not from one of Tony Stanton's.
	Let me just quote from Hitler.
	Hold on one second.
	Those who control the images control the race.
	This was in the context of the 1930s.
	And ISIS understands that those that control the images on social media will control public opinion about this.
	That's right, baby.
	Hitler.
	I don't understand, but I thought Putin was Hitler.
	Who's going to be Hitler now?
	I mean, is it ISIS? And I saw Susan...
	We got a Hitler problem.
	Susan Rice.
	I saw her...
	Whatever she was talking about was uninteresting, but she talks about Izzel.
	Or Isil.
	I think she said Isil.
	That's what she said.
	Isil.
	She doesn't say ISIL. She's been kicked out of the place.
	Instead of ISIL, it's Isil.
	Isil.
	I don't know.
	And the Pope is in on this.
	Somehow he's involved.
	This is a big, big, big setup.
	I enjoyed everybody.
	What are you doing?
	I'm pounding a drum.
	Why?
	It's time to pound the drum for ISIL. Anyway.
	So we'll have...
	You know, it doesn't do any good.
	I mean, they got rather out of the business.
	They set him up years ago.
	Yeah.
	He's also a nuisance.
	But he, you know, they set him up at CBS with that funny letter that he...
	Because he didn't have any computer savvy.
	You know, you didn't realize that you couldn't do that little TH. Right.
	It was just very simple.
	And everyone got into a big debate about it.
	I remember that period because I had done a fake letter that I sent out there myself.
	Explain what fake letter you sent out.
	Yeah, well, what happened was during when Ryder was the anchor at CBS... Uh, and, uh, George Bush was, I think still, yeah, he's still president.
	And he, uh, there was a letter that came out talking about George being a crappy airman.
	And he was just, his, his, his, his record, his record was no good.
	We couldn't find it.
	He was just a screw up.
	And so this letter came out and then CBS got ahold of it and they ran with it and the whole, all the media ran with it.
	the liberal media all ran with it.
	And then somebody pointed out that on the dateline, and this letter was dated in the 40s, I believe.
	In the dateline, there was a, it was like September 17th with a TH as a, you know, not September 1-7-TH, but that little bitty TH that shows up above the 7th, Ah, so that typography was not possible.
	That typography was not possible because that was an element of Microsoft Word.
	So they used a type font that was a typewriter type font, but they had this little TH thing and everyone, myself included, said this is not it.
	This is bullcrap.
	And in fact, I even had, I still have it, I have a The only typewriter that might do that would be a Selectric or an IBM Executive, which was the really...
	But that also was much later.
	That was 70s, wasn't it?
	Yes, and neither one of those could do it.
	Right.
	So it wasn't doable.
	And so then it became a big scandal, and rather it ended up getting fired over the whole thing.
	And it was funny to me because...
	I had my liberal friends who hate George Bush haters.
	They were defending this right to the end.
	Well, it's possible.
	No, it's not possible.
	It was the most amazing era of denialism.
	That's interesting.
	This letter was a fraud.
	Anyway, so Rather got kicked out, and then he started his own thing because Mark Cuban liked him, and so they put him on Mark Cuban's HDNet, and he did a very good investigative reporting show for years.
	It was outrageously good.
	Most of the stuff, a lot of the stuff that developed years later, including the stuff about the cartels in Mexico, were done by Rather two years earlier.
	So I do agree that there has to be a step up.
	I'm going to say it one more time.
	And it's clear that no one who is running anything listens or maybe they don't have money to go back and shoot again.
	You guys, if you want to ratchet it up, you gotta kill a gay guy.
	It doesn't matter.
	Anything else will not...
	Like some openly gay...
	Can we kill RuPaul?
	Behead RuPaul?
	And then you'll see outrage.
	That's what's needed.
	Yeah, no, I know what your theory is, and I think it's correct, but I think there's an overt reason they're not doing it.
	Because I think they want to...
	I think this is a controlled experiment.
	And I think they want to keep it so there's...
	I think it has to be controlled.
	I think everything that we're witnessing is very controlled, so it goes at a certain pace, so it doesn't panic anybody and that sort of thing.
	And you're...
	Trying to initiate panic and actual...
	No outrage.
	We need Twitter icons change to black.
	I don't think that's in the cards.
	I think this is a very controlled, slow-moving freight train so we can start spending this kind of money on a situation that can't be corrected.
	It's a bottomless pit, but a slow bottomless pit.
	We've tried all these other techniques and people get upset about it.
	But you agree we have to do something different.
	It's going to become annoying.
	The media will get tired of it.
	I think there'll be one more beheading.
	Yes.
	Did they tease another guy in this last beheading?
	They usually tease a guy.
	No, they didn't.
	This guy's going to be next.
	They did not.
	Okay, there might not be any more beheadings.
	Wait, did they?
	I have the...
	We've already gone through...
	We should write these down, by the way.
	There's stages involved.
	First, there was the beheading of children.
	We saw none of that, by the way.
	And then there was...
	On sticks.
	Heads on sticks.
	Heads on sticks.
	And then there was the...
	I'm sorry.
	No, no.
	I'm sorry.
	I stand corrected.
	Alan Henning...
	Is the next guy.
	And he is in the teaser segment after the Photoshop picture.
	And this is a particularly bad Photoshop.
	The head is so poorly shopped into the back...
	These guys, it's...
	Okay, there's one more or two more beheadings then.
	Whatever the case, but there's been this series.
	There's been the kids, yeah, nobody, yeah, okay, well, that got us so far.
	Then the thing, the one that got the most mileage was Convert or Die, and we debunked that because it was...
	You can pay up.
	You can pay up.
	That's bullcrap.
	You can pay up, and we have all that, and that was...
	Eventually, I think, got into the...
	Mainstream, and then they had to pull that idea, and then they came up with these other ones.
	They had some videos at the very early days of the ISIL guys machine-gunning innocent victims driving around.
	Yeah, no one cares.
	That didn't go very far.
	That could be Blackwater guys.
	No one recognizes that as unique ISIS ISIL. Right, because they didn't have the black flag, and they didn't have the branding.
	The branding wasn't down yet.
	And I like the branding because I think it does allow for a lot of...
	Me too!
	Me too.
	It's like just having a yellow, green, blue, just a solid color flag or some sort of a flag that you can get at the local store is a great way to brand.
	I never thought it was such an easy thing.
	It was just genius.
	The branding was genius, I think.
	Good job.
	And, you know, so I don't know what would come after the beheading of these journalists.
	Well, they're going to do this one more, but I don't know who this guy is.
	I haven't looked into his background yet.
	And this guy was not a journalist.
	He was an agent for USAID, you know, intelligence.
	Everything connected to USAID. And, yeah, there are good programs, but it's pretty typical for these things to contain spies.
	Well, it was the economic hitman book that really made it apparent what these guys were up to.
	And we lost our USAID guy who was our economic hitman.
	I think he's still having sex with the Russians.
	That's why.
	And as a part of this, I don't think I have a clip of this.
	There are now two...
	Let's see.
	Representative Gabbard and Collins...
	Are now pushing very hard for emergency suspension of the visa waiver program.
	Now this is interesting.
	On the heels of the entire visa database being hosed and being backlogged for at least eight months now, to close the visa waiver program, which is the ESTA, that would really hurt our economy in so many ways.
	Because then people can't just hop on a plane and come on over to the U.S. under the ESTA rules.
	They would have to go to the highly militarized embassy or consul.
	The one in Amsterdam is nuts.
	It looks like Fort Knox on the outside.
	You can't carry a cell phone into the building.
	Yeah.
	I was in the one in Madrid during my Lost Passport episode, and it was one of those places, and you couldn't carry a cell phone or a camera.
	You had to check it at the...
	No, you can't even check it.
	You can't even check it there.
	You can check it here.
	You can't show up with it.
	It's like, okay, how does that work?
	They had a bunch of these.
	It was like being in some of these New York bookstores where they give you a ticket, a little shit that's got a number on it, and then they throw your stuff in a box.
	And if you lose this thing, I think you're toast.
	So I'm very curious to see what happens with the visa waiver program.
	Of course, it won't help the polls anyway, because they're not allowed to be a part of the visa waiver program.
	Those guys are so pissed about that.
	They should be.
	Yeah.
	Of course.
	Anyway.
	All right.
	What do you think?
	Yeah.
	Well, with that, I think we're kind of done.
	We'll just see what happens.
	But this is...
	It is psychological warfare.
	Sure, there's stuff happening.
	But this, my friends, this is total bogativity.
	And it's working.
	It's a way to spend money.
	And I'm pretty sure that most of these jabronis on television, they probably haven't seen the videos either.
	No, no, nobody's seen the videos.
	No, they just buy into it.
	This is just like that 9...
	We said it before, I'll say it again.
	This is like the 911 calls from...
	Yeah, Sandy Hook.
	Sandy Hook.
	They were lame and dumb, and we played them on the show.
	Nobody else would play them because they were too...
	They were horrible.
	No, they weren't horrible.
	They were just lame.
	It was just a guy saying, hey, so what are you doing for lunch?
	It was ridiculous.
	And this is the way the media operates now, apparently.
	They don't care.
	Because they're given a script.
	What difference does it make?
	They do their job.
	They get paid a good salary.
	There's no other jobs.
	If you get fired, you're not going to get another job.
	So you just read the script and shut up.
	I would like to know from our global intelligence network, what local...
	Media is writing about ISIS, ISIL, and jihadists, and the Islamic State.
	Here's an example from the Netherlands, of course.
	It's a short blurb, but I speak it fluently.
	And the headline is, Dutch jihadists in top level of Islamic State.
	You'd think you would have read about this somewhere else if this were true.
	But I'm translating on the fly.
	Dutch jihadists in Syria have gotten through in Syria and Iraq to the highest levels of the terrorist organization IS, the Islamic State.
	Some even have direct contact with their high supreme leader, Abduk Bakr al-Baghdadi.
	And the newspaper that wrote this, the Telegraf, of course, has assembled a list of 136 Dutch polder jihadis.
	And the Dutch jihadi Abu Abayda al-Maghrihibi actually has a leading role in running the Islamic State incarceration center.
	And then we have Khalid Kay from Almere in the Netherlands.
	And he's also in the highest levels of the Islamic State level.
	Leadership, I guess.
	So I'm wondering if there are other, since it's all countries in Europe, and we've got Brits and French, everyone, Germans, everyone, everybody's going to come back and kill everybody and put your head on a stick.
	I'd like to know if your local media is also writing about how your hometown boys are also in high levels of the Islamic State.
	I have a feeling that might be.
	You know, it's kind of like this thing you can localize.
	Yeah, it reminds me of years ago.
	This is a promotional idea that I haven't seen for decades.
	When I was a little kid, I went with my parents to Carlsbad Caverns.
	And there was a press agent at the caverns, a beautiful place, by the way.
	And she came around.
	She says, where are you from?
	She asked a bunch of questions.
	Where are you from?
	What local newspapers are there?
	And then she would take your picture, a family picture, a little family outing.
	She posed you pointing at a stalactite or something.
	And then they would send the pictures with a letter and who we were and all the rest to the local paper.
	Oh.
	I always thought this was genius, by the way.
	This is something I've always remembered.
	And then, so you get back, and the little local paper, which in this case was the Newark Argus, I believe, had a picture of us in Carlsbad Caverns.
	With a photo credit to her, and then saying, here they are, the Newarkians going through the caverns.
	That's an old, old, old school style of, and very effective style of public relations and promotions, promotional.
	And I think that these guys might be using those sorts of techniques if we start seeing in every local area old crap about certain ISIS people that are...
	We already have the first level.
	The first level is there from everywhere in the West.
	We have a hundred from the United States, now you have your people from Holland, Netherlands, and then the British have a bunch of them, my God knows how many, and I guess the French do, so this is kind of a promotional, which makes me think that things are a honeypot, I mean, at some level.
	You know, and everybody, our Congress, oh, this is terrible, these people.
	But then at the same time, if we're doing our job right, it's a honeypot.
	Look, John, we have up until November, we've got an election coming.
	We've got to keep people occupied, afraid, throw in some wife-beating just to mess with their heads, you know, swish that stuff around.
	We need another.
	We've had the slut squad with the naked selfies.
	Times are good.
	We are really doing everything to keep people from...
	Don't forget the slavery auctions.
	Hey, with that, I want to say thank you very much for your courage.
	And in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	And in the morning to you, Adam Curry, also in the morning to all the ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	And in the morning to all of our human resources in the chat room, checking out the stream, noagendastream.com.
	And our artist, Martin J.J., back.
	Back on the hump.
	On the hump.
	Whatever we call it.
	That's not right.
	The album art for episode 651.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can find all the submissions.
	It was good.
	There were some good pieces.
	It's very hard.
	Very hard to choose sometimes.
	There's an aspect of that, that's for sure.
	But good to see Martin J.J. back, and we always appreciate all the work that our artists do.
	As we do our executive and associate executive producers, we try to give them the credits right up at the front like the big Hollywood shows do.
	And pretty much give them anything they want, since we don't have actresses for them to hang out with and drugs to do.
	We give you the credits and read your note.
	Yes.
	Now let's begin with our one executive producer, which would be Sir Mark Wilson, the baronet actually, $300 from Glasgow.
	Nice, Glasgow.
	Scotland.
	And we'll talk a little bit about the Scottish thing because it's coming up.
	And I have mixed feelings about it going either way.
	I do have a clip too.
	Gents, excuse me, just a brief note, requesting some karma and to complain bitterly about the crap exchange rate I'm getting thanks to those moronic separatists and their waste of time referendum.
	So we know what side he's on.
	Sir Mark, Baronet, Glasgow, Scotland, UK. Yeah, he could actually claim some turf, you know, if it's a yes vote.
	Excuse me, I'm a baronet from Glasgow.
	I'm here to take possession.
	Yeah, here's my papers.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You've got karma.
	Thank you very much, Sir Marcus.
	Appreciate it.
	Keep us going through these dog names.
	Now we have Sir Roy of Ancona.
	I sent a check for $2.55 with a note, which wasn't really a note.
	It's a recipe for mac and cheese and a little history.
	Apparently, Consumer Reports began taste testing packaged mac and cheese products in 1983 based on a control recipe that they designed for themselves, which...
	Sounds pretty much like a horrible version, but probably, you know, mac and cheesy enough.
	And then he has a recipe.
	I'm going to photocopy this and put it in the next newsletter.
	Oh, nice.
	He says this takes only 20 minutes and it's convenient because you only use one pan.
	You don't have to drain the macaroni.
	Wait a minute.
	These Kraft packets are easier than that.
	Yeah, but apparently this was all the packaged stuff, this recipe, even though it uses margarine.
	He also mentions that he doesn't recollect any testing product that was rated higher than the control, and margarine works better than butter, which is sick, but possibly true.
	Anyway, thanks to Sir Roy.
	Miguel...
	No karma or anything?
	That's all he wants?
	He just said this note in here with his check.
	Thank you very much.
	It says page one.
	There might have been a page two, but I don't see it.
	Why don't you do a mac and cheese karma for him, since you...
	Alright, send him it.
	You slaves can get used to mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	You never know.
	It could be useful.
	Miguel Espinal in New York City.
	$250.
	A good day, my ninjas.
	Coming from Gitmotal buildings, the ghetto parts, I tried getting in contact with you, Adam, when you came to New York City, hoping to see you in person and make a personal donation.
	It's cool, though.
	I know you were busy.
	I told you before I got the Marriott discounts.
	You would have maybe saved money on hotel prices.
	Anyways...
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Well, next time...
	Please grant me some karma.
	I asked the last two times for it, but you forgot.
	I really need it.
	My life sucks, and I'm the Christmas show.
	I'm the Christmas show.
	Sad story.
	But please don't say this.
	Thanks.
	I don't remember the Christmas show.
	Sad stories.
	I really need something to help it go better.
	Thanks for everything you guys do.
	John, I'm an avid fan.
	Your insight to life is great.
	I wonder how many times you've been called an a-hole when you're just calling it how you see it.
	Daily?
	Lots.
	Take care and thank you for your shows.
	I wish I could do more.
	I hand out flash drives with your show.
	Oh, this is nice.
	He hands out flash drives with the show on it and tag up the train stations with your website to try to open minds.
	Deuces, he says.
	Give him the karma he needs to get on his feet.
	I like the tagging.
	Don't get caught.
	Please don't.
	And sorry about that.
	So this will be an extra thick layer of karma that I'm dosing you with.
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	That'll help.
	Anonymous from Sterling Heights, Michigan.
	$248.16.
	Here are the powers of two donation to help support the best podcast in the universe.
	Thanks for the great pas de deux of intellectual conversation deconstructing current events.
	Could I please get a drone again naturally followed by a two to the head karma?
	Yes, I'm sure we can do that.
	The drone again naturally You've got karma.
	Fits together well.
	That was a good one.
	Yeah, that's the same key.
	It's perfect.
	Sir Craig in Chicago, Illinois, 24678.
	These are all associate executive producers for show 652.
	ITM, John and Adam, sorry I'm donating a few days later than usual this month.
	I had a PayPal kerfuffle that's since been resolved.
	Hopefully the upgrade from 1-2-3-3-3 to 1-2-3-4-5.
	I will give you a smile.
	I know John loves the sequential donations.
	As an adjunct professor who teaches a journalism class, your shows provide serious value and perspective.
	I would not be able to get any...
	I would not be able to...
	and value that I would not be able to get anywhere else.
	There you go.
	And it gives me some sense of naive hope that my propagating the formula to the newsmakers of tomorrow might make the world a better place.
	I would feel...
	I would feel...
	I would feel unclear.
	Unclean.
	Unclean.
	I would feel unclear.
	I would feel unclean if I did not do my duty and hit the students in the mouth.
	I even made the unremixed bingo boom shakalaka an evergreen clip on my desktop and often use it as punctuation while I'm teaching.
	I like that.
	Everyone loves it.
	Thank you, as always, for your courage and for my sanity.
	Happy belated birthday to Adam.
	Sir Craig of the Windy City.
	Dingo, boom, shakalaka. Boom, shakalaka. Boom, shakalaka. Dingo, boom, boom, shakalaka. Boom, boom, boom, shakalaka. Boom, boom, boom.
	Nakara Grief.
	Excuse me, in Port Orchard.
	Let me get a little water.
	Yeah, I've had a little bit of the same, actually.
	It's the global cooling.
	That's it.
	In Port Orchard, Washington, 23133.
	For Sunday's show, 914, sending email with information.
	Oh, I'll go look for that.
	I don't think I have anything.
	Did something come to you?
	Well, you never know.
	It's possible.
	Nakara?
	How does he spell this last name?
	I've got Nikara...
	G-R-I-E-F. I have nothing from Nikara.
	Let me look.
	G-R-E-I-F. G-R-E-I-F. G-R-E-I-F. E-I-F. And there's the donation.
	Fixing last message.
	Okay, this is the one he wants us to read.
	I forgot to add something.
	He's got two messages.
	Okay, let me back up and go to his original message.
	And I'd like to say, please...
	Do not be disappointed when we mess up your notes because you've sent it in three different emails to four different people.
	We have no organization.
	We're busy doing work.
	While you're getting your thoughts, while you're collecting your thoughts...
	We're teabagging it.
	Well, speak for yourself.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I don't know what that means.
	No, I have it here.
	I still find people think that...
	Somehow I have time to debate you on email.
	Yeah.
	Adam's very annoyed when people want to get into a conversation like that.
	And here's another thing that you must restrain yourself and refrain from doing.
	Do not send me a link and say, you'll love this because I'm not going to watch it.
	Do you know how much time it takes?
	You have to explain.
	You have to sell it.
	You have to sell it.
	You have to explain why.
	So you've got to click it, and then something opens, and of course flashes.
	So it might take, with an ad, it was a YouTube video, could be 60 seconds, could be a full minute before I'm seeing what it is.
	Could be hours.
	And if I do 60 of those a day, which is pretty much the number of these types of messages, you've wasted an hour.
	Don't do this.
	Don't debate me.
	Unless you're going to pay me, I'm not going to debate you on email.
	This is one guy from Holland.
	No, but he keeps comparing the nine-year-old with the Uzi, this story.
	He's from Holland.
	Absolutely, yeah.
	Well, you know, why don't you then let children drive automobiles with an adult at nine?
	I said, this is a bullcrap comparison, and you know it.
	I know the guy.
	Okay, geez.
	But then he comes back with this long line.
	I'm like, stop!
	Stop!
	It's just insulting of my time.
	And you're paying for the time.
	You want me to work.
	We're arguing about the nine-year-old with Uzi.
	Thank you.
	All right, here we go.
	Hello, John and Adam.
	We're writing to you from Kaiserslautern.
	Kaiserslautern.
	Kaiserslautern.
	Deutschland, where we hang out with some of the troops for this portion of our life.
	My husband, Stephen, hit me in the mouth after several attempts last year during the Boston Marathon incident.
	I haven't missed the show since.
	He, however, has never donated.
	What?!
	So for his birthday, September 14th, I figured I would donate for him.
	Put him on the birthday list.
	Is he on the birthday list?
	I don't think so.
	What's his name?
	It doesn't say.
	Steven.
	Steven, last name?
	Grief.
	Grief.
	I'm guessing.
	Yes.
	And how old is he?
	He is now 50.
	No.
	31.
	31.
	It's 31.
	31?
	It's reading it.
	It's all in here.
	What day?
	I don't have a copy of it, so...
	The 14th.
	No, I'm going to read it, though.
	I'm going to read it.
	So it's going to be redundant if you ask me more questions.
	I figured I'd donate and pull him out of his boner status.
	Please accept my donation for the amount of 231-33.
	200 for two moral self-licenses, one for each of us, for birthday fun.
	31 for how old he is turning, and 33 cents because it seems logical.
	I would also like to call out our friend Donovan as being a douchebag.
	Oh boy.
	Douchebag!
	Now she wants a de-douching for the two of them, a boom shakalaka remix and a karma.
	Thank you for keeping us all entertained and informed.
	She did send photos, so you wouldn't complain.
	She puts it in the PS. And I'll send them to you.
	And then she also had this fix in the last message, which is, can you specify that I donated from my slave funds that the VA gives me for going to school?
	Not from the account.
	I typically use that Steven makes all the cash for.
	Thanks again.
	I hope I wasn't too much pain.
	Okay, I don't even know what the point of that was, but okay.
	So we'll take the douching.
	And he's on the list.
	You've been d-douched.
	You've got karma.
	That's a nice...
	It's a pretty name, Nakara.
	Mm-hmm.
	Daniel Gray, Scottsdale, Arizona.
	She's a pretty...
	She's got the look of kind of borderline...
	Somewhere between...
	Punk and hipster with dyed, that red kind of day-glo hair thing in a Mohawk style.
	I want to see the picture.
	Daniel Gray, Scottsdale, Arizona, 223.
	ITM, gentlemen, for I am not drunk, I am surely buzzing.
	First off, God bless you to John and Adam for the service you provide to the listeners with both deconstruction of media and the show notes.
	There you go.
	I would like to give a shout out and karma to my best mono, your drone knight in NYC, for the work he's done to educate the citizens on our Fourth Amendment rights through art.
	Indeed.
	Come on, keep on, brother.
	Please send me some good luck karma for finishing school and getting married.
	Love y'all.
	Yo, love y'all.
	Back, here you go.
	You've got karma.
	Thank you, thank you.
	Sean and Casey Kelly.
	And there's nothing listed here.
	These are, I believe these are our school kids who are always looking up legislation about crazy crap.
	Such as their new school ID is a visa credit or debit card.
	That's the new rage, you know.
	No.
	Yeah, you go to...
	Wait a minute.
	I kind of missed this one, I guess.
	Yeah, they turned me on to this.
	I don't know if we talked about it.
	It was in the show notes.
	For sure, I had it in the prep.
	A number of schools, when you get your ID, it is your picture on a Visa card.
	And the Visa card is also what you use for any grants that you get.
	It's your financial transaction mechanism with the school for everything you do.
	But that is simultaneously your school ID. Well, I don't see any email from Sean or Casey Kelly, K-E-L-L-Y, of late.
	So I don't know what their note was.
	But that's kind of depressing, by the way, that idea of the Visa card.
	It's just terrible.
	Anyway, they gave us $210.12 from Haley, Idaho.
	If they had...
	I get the sense that they sent something in somewhere.
	Let me see.
	Maybe I'm thinking of somebody else.
	They'll follow up if they have something to tell us.
	They'll get it to us.
	I didn't want to miss a birthday.
	I think it was wrong, maybe.
	I don't know.
	Sir Insight Jobs.
	The Club 33 Black Knight in Seattle, Washington.
	$207.23.
	And he wants his complete title read, and that's what we did.
	Thank you, sir.
	Which is Sir Inside Jobs, EG911, and Club 33 Black Knight.
	Thank you so much, sir.
	We appreciate your courage.
	Fernando de los Reyes, and he'll be our last donor.
	$200, associate executive producer from Sierra Vista, Arizona.
	Donating $200.
	I'm a wannabe economic hitman and need some sales karma for the end of the fiscal year.
	Thank you for your hard work and analysis.
	My wife and I are avid listeners.
	It blows my mind how often you're correct.
	It shouldn't.
	Katie and I will be watching Meet the Press, and she'll ding when she hears the messaging.
	There's a lot of dinging.
	She was a signal soldier, joined on September 12, 2001, and was on the first wave in 2002.
	You need the network up before the ground and pound soldiers arrive in theater.
	I hit my dad in the mouth on a trip to Miami, from a trip from Miami to Orlando and back with my boys this summer.
	After two years of bugging my brother, all I had to do was tell him our dad was all in.
	Now, they are both part of the No Agenda Network.
	One thing I wanted to share, Adam has previously asked, what does cyber mean?
	In my industry, cyber means proactive analysis, knowing something you can do, knowing something you can do something about.
	Be prepared, citizen, and don't forget the rust-proofing.
	He needs a de-douching for himself.
	A douchebag from my dad and brother.
	Douchebags!
	Douchebags, yeah.
	He wants a Reverend L. Sharpton montage.
	Mind games made me laugh.
	Boom shakalaka, some karma.
	I don't know if I have a whole Sharpton thing.
	We'll just have to.
	Well, we'll do with this.
	But resist, we must.
	Classic.
	We must and we will much about that be committed.
	Dingo, boom, shakalaka.
	You've got karma.
	All right.
	Thank you, Fernando.
	So that's a list of our associate executive producers and executive producer for show.
	652 reminds you that we do have another show coming up on Thursday, 653, as we approach 666, the mark of the beast, and get past that.
	And dvorak.org slash na to keep helping us out.
	You can also go to channeldvorak.com slash na and noagendashow.com and also noagendanation.com.
	Have donate buttons you can hit.
	Hey, do you have a fan on or a window open or something?
	I do have a window open.
	Okay.
	It's noticeable.
	Yeah, because I have the noise gate on, and so when you talk, it's just really loud in the background.
	I can close it.
	I was keeping it cool because I was trying to stay cool.
	No, I understand.
	I understand.
	I don't have that chilly, freezing weather.
	Shut up.
	Come on, everybody.
	We need to go out there and do exactly what all these producers do.
	Propagate the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Real.
	World.
	Order.
	Shut up.
	Shut up.
	It is freedom.
	Subjugation is liberation.
	Contradiction is truth.
	Those are the facts of this world.
	And you will all surrender to them.
	You pigs in human clothing.
	Yes!
	Pigs!
	Okay, I closed the window.
	Yeah, it's much better.
	Much better.
	This mic picks up a lot.
	Yeah, I could just tell that it was open more than usual, probably.
	No, I think I'd just like to take these mics and go record the symphony or something.
	It's a very nice sound.
	Hey, I got a lot of emails and tweets and all kinds of stuff about naming our illness that we are discussing.
	Yeah, I got to the point where there's so many, I stopped paying attention.
	Yeah, me too.
	But I did want to mention a few, and then I want to talk about some research I've done.
	So this, of course, is the international health crisis, the triad, as we call it, which has really exemplified And this little clip that I found, you know there was a solar flare, an X, I think 1.6, that...
	Yeah, it should have produced a Borealis on the...
	Yeah, it might have.
	I haven't seen any pictures.
	It probably did, but...
	Mimi was up there at the time and she said she didn't see anything.
	Right.
	So this was obviously underreported, then it was overreported, and we all need to be very afraid of an EMP or any type of CME, coronal mass ejection, because it could disrupt things here on Earth.
	Yeah.
	And this is a very disturbing piece.
	As there's only one thing that the reporter is clearly interested in and the men on the street interviews refer to this one issue.
	What could the worst thing be if we had a true...
	Electromagnetic pulse that knocked things off.
	Can I take a couple of guesses?
	One, just one.
	Okay, to knock out the power grid, we wouldn't be able to get to Facebook.
	It pours out material which will reach us in a day or two.
	And that material, electrically charged, can disrupt satellites and power grids if it strikes the earth in a way that hits areas that are vulnerable.
	Krupp says the concern is for airline communications, GPS, cell phones.
	You might even see a disruption to Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.
	What?
	Facebook's offline!
	When your Instagram and your Facebook account go out, find something to keep you occupied for a little while until it all comes back.
	You nailed it, John.
	And now the whole piece.
	It's pathetic, by the way.
	Yeah, the whole piece.
	Yes, listen, the whole piece.
	Not my Facebook.
	Not my Facebook.
	Reaction from those just learning about this?
	Wow.
	I'm waiting to see that, actually.
	Then believe me, they're not talking about anything other than Facebook being offline because of this.
	We used to live without cell phones.
	How long does it last?
	Well, the material that is traveling from the sun is essentially like a wave that washes over us.
	So you're talking about a portion of a day or a few hours.
	I guess we'll get through it.
	It's only a few hours.
	And that's the right attitude.
	Here's the good news.
	It doesn't appear to be a direct hit, just a glancing blow.
	And remember, if it happens, if it happens at all, they're saying it'll just be for a couple of hours.
	So we can deal with that, and scientists say we're going to be just fine.
	Oh.
	Wow, only a few hours without Facebook.
	Clip, clip, clip of the day.
	Only a few hours without Facebook.
	I think we'll be able to handle it.
	Yes, we can do it.
	That's right, Facebook!
	Disgusting.
	Yeah, so this combination of...
	And it really is more Facebook than Twitter, but because of the like factor.
	Although I see people using the favorite tweet as a like mechanism.
	Yeah, I know.
	And the smartphones with cameras is the international health crisis.
	I'll give you a couple examples.
	Group perception disorder...
	Technology, enslavement disorder, social network obsession syndrome, compulsive conformance disorder, eye fluenza, a lot of things that I... But none of them really hit home with what this is.
	And I've been doing some research...
	Again, no one is really approaching it the way we are, but there's been a lot of research into technology in general.
	As you know, I keep rereading Ted Kaczynski's technology in the modern age, his manifesto, which really combines leftist thinking with destruction once you add technology to it.
	On the front page of the Unabomber manifesto, he says, giving humans technology is like putting an alcoholic in a barrel of wine.
	I never knew that that was like the thing, like his little sticker on the front of his manifesto.
	So here's a couple things I learned.
	Steve Jobs, and this came out just in the New York Times two days ago with, I forgot who, someone said some late term interview with him.
	He really limited his kids' use of technology.
	He was a self-confessed low-tech parent.
	And when the iPad came out, he didn't even let his kids have it.
	And I think it's because he, along with other technology leaders, really knew about this thing that we have inside of us.
	And there's a clip from Louis C.K., which it's too long.
	You have to watch it.
	He's on Conan.
	And there's a whole setup.
	It doesn't work on audio.
	You have to see him do it.
	And I liked his, he had a theory about what this incessant behavior is.
	And there's also a book, The Loss of Absence.
	There's many, many interesting thoughts about what's going on here.
	But he says, we all as human beings have this kind of this empty hole in the pit of our stomachs, where if you just sit down and you think and you're listening to your own thoughts, pretty quickly you realize, hey, you know, I'm alone.
	What is this world?
	What am I doing here?
	And I'm going to die.
	You know what I mean?
	You understand what I'm talking about.
	But it's true.
	We all have this feeling.
	I think historically this has been filled up by religion.
	And people get, oh, what am I doing here?
	You start to hyperventilate.
	And he has a great bit where he really, instead of grabbing for the phone, which is what I think he's correct in assuming, when people feel that alone moment, Or just boredom.
	If you have kids, have you ever heard your kids say, I'm bored?
	I used to say that all the time.
	I'm bored.
	There's nothing to do.
	No, all kids say that constantly.
	I think there's...
	Really?
	I don't think kids are bored anymore.
	There's always something for them to do on the iPad.
	No, no, they still say it.
	Okay, well, good.
	Well, my kids don't have iPads.
	Your kids are a little too old for what we're talking about here.
	Well, no, I'm talking about when they were kids.
	They don't say it now, although Jay does once in a while.
	But they don't say it now.
	But they used to say it all the time, just constantly.
	They had all the computer gear that they ever wanted if they wanted to just goof around on the machines.
	So I think with this, the incessant grabbing for the phone, a lot of that is this fear of confronting our own humanity.
	It is the new religion in a way, where Muslims pray five times a day.
	I'm sure.
	Well, you know, I have a column coming up in the PC Magazine Electronic Edition.
	Not the online version, but it's an electronic edition, which is actually a magazine.
	And it will eventually show up online.
	And I've actually made this equation, which is that the...
	And the company that's tapped into this the best is the Apple computers.
	They have tapped into the religious aspect of this.
	And my parallel that I drew is that I find, because I've been thinking about this for years, which is what is it about Apple's events and all the rest that draw these huge crowds?
	They packed in the Cupertino or the De Anza Center, a large symphony auditorium.
	And so I finally figured it out.
	It's a church service.
	Yes.
	And Steve Jobs came up with the church service first, and they have not violated the rules.
	If you've ever been to a megachurch, and I have been to one or a couple.
	The Glass Cathedral?
	Have you been there?
	The Glass Cathedral is not a megachurch.
	Oh, I thought it was a megachurch.
	It's a big church.
	That's different.
	A megachurch is designed to put on a show.
	Not give a service.
	And the Glass Cathedral guy, when he built that thing...
	People should go out of their way to go visit that thing and go inside.
	It's fantastic.
	But it's not...
	I don't think anyone's...
	It might be defined as a megachurch, but it's not a megachurch.
	The megachurches are a specific large construction built to hold just the maximum number of people.
	And then they put on a show, and the show is always very similar...
	Which is they have the preacher, the main guy, which used to be Steve Jobs, and now it's Tim Cook.
	And you wear the vestments, you wear the black outfits, because that's what a priest would do.
	You can watch Twitter as a guy with the black thing on.
	And then they bring on, all the megachurches always bring on visiting preachers.
	And the visiting preachers, in the case of the Apple presentation, are the product managers who come out and preach about the new products.
	Yep, yep.
	And they're preaching.
	It's all preaching.
	And so then they preach.
	And then all the time, and the kicker to this is that all these megachurches have a band.
	Somebody comes out and they play some damn music.
	Usually it's gospel music, but in the case of the Apple...
	Then we get U2. U2. Or whoever.
	They always bring the...
	And there are guests that come out.
	It's more of a Hollywood...
	In the best megachurches, it's a Broadway production.
	And essentially, it's a church service.
	And many of the people...
	And I have a clip that when we played that clip from Fox News, Guilfoyle said something.
	Oh, that was the one from last show?
	Yeah, if you've had it handy, you can play it again.
	It was pretty short.
	But Guilfoyle says something, which I referenced in the column, that this is a religion, this is a substitute.
	Guilfoyle actually says, and she's a good Catholic girl, I was converted to Apple.
	Hold on a second, I want to get this clip for you.
	Uh...
	And I quote her from this clip.
	I quote her exactly what she says.
	And it's all babbling.
	It's just babbling.
	If you take and write this stuff down, I can almost probably get it.
	I have it here.
	I have it here.
	Play that clip again.
	You just get the religious aspect and she's converted.
	She's converted to Apple.
	It's a bracelet.
	That was the legendary U2 helping Apple celebrate the launch of the iPhone 6 today and also the Apple Watch out in Cupertino, California.
	The company unveiled two new phones, the 6 with a 4.7 inch screen and the 6 Plus with a 5.5.
	It also designed a new wearable device called the Apple Watch that can supposedly do all kinds of cool things.
	So, Kimberly, why are we so obsessed with Apple?
	Why do we want to know when everything is coming out?
	Apples are fun and tasty and good devices.
	I love it.
	I mean, I'm a big convert to Apple.
	I even recently just tried the Samsung thing, but I've never now.
	I don't know.
	I can't even use it.
	People still camp out at the store.
	There's no reason to camp out.
	I think it's so good.
	It's user-friendly.
	You've got your little iPads.
	You've got your iPhone.
	You've got your iMac.
	It's just all one group of families.
	I already have the Apple Watch to get a shot of this.
	Really?
	Is that true?
	Look at it.
	Okay, so if we take your...
	I love the Mega Church.
	The actual device is there for...
	The modern day religious version of the Bible.
	No.
	The device is an icon.
	It's essentially, and I hate to say this, let's take a look at what we have for our icons, church versus apple.
	The number one icon is the cross for the church.
	The number one icon for the apple is the apple logo.
	And they finally use it as such.
	They use it as a religious symbol.
	Yeah.
	These devices are essentially, they're icons, they're iconic, the devices themselves, and they're essentially the art.
	Understood, but...
	The Bible, you can't call them a Bible.
	The Bible is, I don't know, there's no Bible for this group.
	It's just pure preaching without a Bible.
	But can I just follow my logic for a moment?
	All right.
	So outside of the announcement, outside of the iconic nature of the device, when people feel that human emptiness, the sorrow, the sadness, or whatever it is when you're sitting alone and just thinking to yourself, that's when they grab for...
	They grab for rosary beads.
	Ooh, there you go.
	I'll take rosary beads.
	For $15.
	Rosary beads.
	Hmm.
	Yeah?
	And rosary beads is a very good...
	That would be kind of the superficial level where...
	When people just are at the bus stop or whatever, or they're watching someone else, they grab their phone.
	That's the rosary beads.
	But sometimes they do have to delve in to get deeper into it.
	Well, no, it's more complex than just plain.
	Yeah, they do.
	But it's all superficial.
	I mean, I'm not going to say that people are on the rosary beads all day.
	I would say that's a meditation of some sort.
	And this is kind of a meditation with the phone.
	It's a distraction.
	It's distracting your thoughts away.
	Right, which is what meditation does.
	It's supposed to focus you in a certain way.
	But generally speaking, if you look at meditation, and you can read about this in Ram Dass' new book, meditation is used to center yourself.
	It's used to kind of coalesce the brain so you're not distracted easily by all kinds of stupid shit.
	Anything like what's going on with this, if we're going to take the religious parallel, is essentially a violation, if you're a religious person, of the first commandment.
	This is idolatry.
	This is seeking something before God and making it God.
	And it's idolatry in the purest sense of the word.
	And you actually have this item, the Apple iPhone, as an idolatrous item that you're essentially worshipping.
	And in fact, when you bring this stuff up with people, they get very adamant about it.
	Because anybody who's all in on this religion gets really mad at you.
	I mean, if you want to see...
	I mean, you write a little bit of...
	I've known this for years, and every writer knows it.
	You try not to abuse it, but you write something about Apple, which is not even critical, but it doesn't go along with whatever the litany is, because you're not a member of the religion.
	You just get inundated with email and letters and comments.
	You know, three, four hundred comments show up on the simplest of little...
	Well, you're right about this, but you're wrong about that.
	And by the way, Mr.
	Dvorak, you said in 2007 that Apple shouldn't even get into this business.
	So I think it hits a number of the usage of the device, which is in the pocket.
	It is connected.
	All these things.
	Think about it.
	The seven deadly sins.
	Lust, gluttony, greed, sloth, wrath, envy, pride.
	It hits almost every single one of them.
	Yeah.
	Every single one.
	In fact, the pride one is your whole diatribe about selfies.
	Well, pride and envy, they go together.
	Right.
	Pride and envy with selfies, definitely.
	And so you have that element, the gluttony.
	Wrath is cyberbullying.
	Yeah.
	No, I think the seven deadly sins are all in play with an iPhone.
	Now...
	It's an interesting thing for people to consider, but I think anyone out there, and we have a lot of religious listeners, and they know about idolatry being the real problem.
	In fact, Arnold Toynbee, the great historian, used to discuss this in many of his histories about how idolatry can replace religion very easily because it becomes religion.
	I think they would all perk up at this and probably consider donating.
	Yeah, but we're not going to get any Pulitzer Prizes or anything.
	We're not going to get any Pulitzer Prizes, no.
	We're going to get a podcasting award, though.
	No, we're not even going to get that.
	But it is just fascinating to continuously observe And it is absolutely unhealthy behavior.
	I go on the Twitch show during one of these periods.
	I wasn't there for this.
	Are you on today?
	No, Elgin's the host and he likes his certain guests.
	I would go on there and if it's during one of these phone rollouts...
	These are like, they're not really discussing technology.
	These are acolytes, which is the word you should really understand.
	They are acolytes, and it's like, I'm not.
	I'm not an acolyte.
	As far as I'm concerned, everything would be better off without an internet.
	Including this show!
	Yeah, we wouldn't be able to do the show.
	That's a drawback, but we're probably making more money other ways.
	Anyway, the point is that you can't get your word in it because you're kind of the guy with common sense, I think.
	That's what I'd represent.
	But it doesn't help.
	And the acolytes outnumber you by thousands to one.
	I think it's fundamentally a spiritual...
	Excuse me.
	You're still talking really about the device, but I am talking about the activity.
	It's not completely religion, but everybody should at least once a day sit down for 15 minutes outside and just think.
	Wasn't there a study recently that said that most, and there was, of course, a man, it could have been both sexes, I'm sure, saying that they'd rather be burned by a match or something, they'd rather be poked with a stick.
	Than have their cell phone turned off.
	Than sit around thinking.
	Right.
	Just, you know, meditating, contemplating things.
	This is exactly when the beauty comes.
	You know, All my ideas, all my thinking, shower.
	It's always the shower.
	Because you can't have a phone in the shower.
	Well, at least not, I don't have a phone, but my iPod Touch would not work.
	And that's when the thinking comes.
	That's when you start to...
	How long are your showers?
	Oh, sometimes very long.
	I'll just stand there.
	See, I'm a shower in and out.
	Yeah, you're like Mickey, in and out.
	It's like, get in, get out.
	I don't want to be sitting there getting all wrinkly.
	No, I don't meditate.
	I am in the zone.
	I go off.
	I am totally in the zone on that.
	Well, we never got to our last guy, or we did, Fernando de los Reyes in Sierra Vista, Arizona, $200.
	Did we give him the major karma?
	Yes.
	Yeah, we did a whole bit.
	Were you on your phone again?
	I was on my phone.
	We have to come up with things, though.
	Like, when you're in a restaurant, and I've seen this happen, it's so often you see a family of four, and they're all sitting there on their phone.
	There's got to be something we can do, or that as a human being you can do, to this family, to jar them simultaneously and make them aware of what they're actually engaged in.
	You know, it's sad.
	You know what's weird to me?
	Ah, I said it and I've caught myself.
	I don't need the buzz if I catch it.
	Anyway, anyways, when did we transfer from not being okay to have the phone in the restaurant?
	Which I always thought was sketchy to begin with because it was real classy to have a phone in the restaurant at the Beverly Hills Hotel.
	You know, the phone, the big giant real phone.
	I have the guy bring the phone.
	Mr.
	Curry, there's a telephone call.
	That was hot.
	That was hot.
	But then it became bad form to have a cell phone at the restaurant, which seems to be a contradiction of the earlier, I think it had to do with the rarity.
	And then now it's okay.
	Everyone has cell phones.
	They're doing their texting.
	They're looking stuff up when doing their dinner.
	It's just like unbelievable.
	Well, it's worse.
	Kids now don't think.
	Not just kids, everybody.
	Remember, we used to have conversations, whole discussions, arguments, because it wasn't on Wikipedia.
	There was no Wikipedia.
	There was no Google the answer.
	Even though I'm not interested, people would argue for hours about sports statistics and scores, and now it's just, oh yeah, look at this!
	Here's the video of it!
	There's no more engagement.
	We have yet to discover how...
	How, I will say, enriching on one hand, but how harmful this era will be.
	And we're going to be able to document it.
	And make no mistake, there's really bad crap happening to human beings right now.
	And Silicon Valley, most of them know it.
	And they're just sitting there laughing and taking your money.
	Right, which is why Steve Jobs wouldn't let his own kids use the iPad.
	Yeah, because he knew it.
	He probably understood the church model because that church model began with him in the early days.
	I mean, he's the one who developed it as the church model for product rollouts.
	Everybody else, nobody else gets it.
	They think they can bring a bunch of people in, then they dress in colorful clothes.
	They don't have any idea what a megachurch, how it operates or how it works.
	And so they just kind of copy what they think Steve or Steve was doing and now Tim is doing.
	And Tim has stuck with it.
	He's got the black shirt.
	It's a dark outfit.
	They'll blow it.
	I don't think they fully understand what they're doing.
	The last guy came out with a pink shirt.
	All of that is just the winners of the religious part of the race.
	The actual sickness that is happening is just unreal.
	Yeah, well, supposedly that's what it'll boil down to being bad.
	It's bad.
	Yeah, it's bad, but it's fun to watch.
	For me, I find it fun to watch.
	It's fun to watch to a point until you have one of these friends of yours who's a nutcase for these things and can grab you and shoot the two selfies before you can get away.
	That I find extremely annoying.
	Yeah.
	It's all just part of it.
	I'm just...
	Observe because people are...
	They're going to...
	It cannot end well.
	You need...
	Rest in your brain.
	We have a selfie of you with your two sisters that's in a band, ready to go to the newsletter, maybe on Thursday as a teaser.
	And it's an obvious selfie because you can be seen holding the camera.
	Yes, my sister's phone, she asked me to take it.
	And you said, no, this is for lowlifes.
	I said, do not put this on the internet, is what I said.
	Oh.
	Where did it come from?
	The internet?
	You got it from the internet?
	No.
	Yeah.
	That's sketchy.
	It was on your Facebook account.
	Yeah, but I didn't put anything on my Facebook.
	Well, somebody put it there.
	Yeah.
	So there you go.
	I don't even look at my Facebook, so I don't know what it was, but...
	You don't have Facebook.
	How did you find it?
	Jesse.
	Yeah, Judas.
	Jane C's wife.
	Etude, Jesse, Judas.
	Jesse the Judas.
	He says, hey, did you see this picture of Adam on his Facebook page?
	I said, she shows it to me.
	I said, no, that's interesting.
	Send it to me.
	Oh, man.
	So she sent it to me.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	My sisters must have.
	I expressly said, please do not put that anywhere.
	When I was with my daughter in New York, I'd take picture of us, selfie, and said, just for me.
	She said, that's a horrible picture.
	I said, it's just for me!
	I'm not going to publish it.
	It's just for me!
	It's always assumed.
	But the sickness is embedded.
	Oh, that's a shitty picture.
	That's why you shouldn't have expected the thing not to show up.
	I'm talking about when I was taking pictures with my daughter that she gets worried it's a crap picture.
	But it's my picture.
	I'm not going to post it.
	She's not believing this because that's not the way it works.
	Yeah, that's the way it works in my world.
	Well, you're very...
	It's still to be proven.
	She doesn't trust you, obviously.
	Because you could be...
	She doesn't know that you're...
	Completely divorced from the illness?
	But you understand...
	Well, you understand my point.
	I'm...
	Look, it's not going to end.
	It is only accelerating.
	There...
	Look how fast we adopted MySpace to Facebook...
	Facebook to Twitter, the next big thing is going to be a very rapid adoption, and people are going to burn out.
	They are short-circuiting already.
	People are going to burn out.
	You have children walking up to television screens trying to zoom in with their fingers.
	They're three years old.
	That's not true.
	Yes, that's very true.
	Wow.
	Yeah, kids are three, four years old.
	They have an iPad, and then they walk up to a TV, and they think you can double-tap and zoom and rotate.
	Honey!
	Who's smudging up the TV? It's a mess!
	And one day they will, because human beings work best with tools when they perform consistently.
	So now screens are seen this way, and everything is supposed to work this way.
	Man, I just, after my spin class on Friday, I know how gated that sounds.
	I like the way you introduce it.
	It has the spin class the other day.
	After the spin class, and this was all the hot chicks were in this one.
	It's a Friday noon, so it's perfect.
	Before they pick up the kids, it's all these MILFs.
	And the minute we're done...
	They're all on their phones.
	I've seen this, yeah.
	And then I went to have a bowl of chili and some coleslaw at Joe's there on 2nd Street.
	And you sit outside, and everyone's sitting at the tables on phones.
	Yeah.
	Phone, laptop, three phones.
	No one's talking.
	No one's conversing.
	And then this one lady who has a laptop, a Blackberry, and an iPhone, and an iPad, has two beautiful little puppy dogs that are tied underneath her chair.
	And people are coming by.
	Oh, they're so cute!
	And they're taking pictures with their phone.
	I'm living in a nightmare.
	And you just have to observe it to feel superior as a human being.
	Yeah, I guess that's one way you could do it.
	I find it just disturbing to see everybody on these phones constantly.
	Like you said, they get off of one thing and immediately go to the phone.
	Because what are they?
	Heart surgeons?
	Why do you need to be checking this stuff constantly?
	For your fix.
	John, it is the same.
	It's dopamine.
	Dopamine, you get all these chemicals that are the Pavlovian.
	It's a real honest...
	Cocaine is healthier than smartphones and Facebook.
	There, I said it.
	That's a good one.
	I'm not going to say it's not true.
	Now, the combination of smartphones, Facebook, and cocaine, that's lethal.
	You're dead within a week.
	But it truly...
	You better off be smoking dope and listen to Bob Marley records...
	Man.
	Yeah, man.
	All right, we should get off this.
	Yeah, I know it's annoying.
	Okay, we can get...
	No, but I wake up in the morning, I think, oh my God, the world is...
	People have no idea what's happening to them.
	I'm a visionary.
	I'm from the future.
	I see death.
	Thanks.
	Thanks for accentuating my point.
	Very good.
	Okay, well, now what I do in my clip list.
	Sorry.
	I think we went through a lot of material right there.
	All off the top of our heads, which probably backs us up in the stuff that we researched.
	I love how people say, Adam's like Alex Jones right now.
	I don't think I've ever heard Alex Jones talk intelligently about the triad of the international health crisis.
	No.
	Why don't you go back to talking about Chromebooks, you morons.
	Talk about...
	About seeds.
	And then you'd be like Alex Jones.
	Seeds.
	He's still doing the male vitality.
	He's selling boner pills.
	Yeah.
	Alright, what do we have?
	What's up on the agenda?
	Well, you were going to play a clip.
	Yeah, but I can't find my clip.
	You look for the clip list and I will play it.
	I found a clip.
	No, never mind.
	No, no, no.
	Let's go back in time.
	No, sorry.
	You missed out.
	Let me give it to the harp.
	We are going back in time, ladies and gentlemen.
	We are going back several years to episode one for one.
	Well, there's something else I noticed about the Department of Defense.
	And it was kind of underreported.
	But you may have seen that they arrested a spy, John.
	A scientist was arrested on spy charges because apparently he tried to sneak out two thumb drives, which the TSA noticed at the airport as he was flying abroad.
	I think he was flying to...
	Do you remember this episode?
	Do you remember back in the day?
	Yeah.
	Maybe to Israel.
	And so when they came back, they nabbed the guy.
	And they say, oh, what was on these thumb drives?
	It was very important classified information about nuclear warfare.
	And so I'm following up on this guy.
	Actually, this was another Wall Street Journal picture.
	I can just find it here.
	Well, it'll be in the show notes somewhere.
	Do I sound different from episode 141 to today?
	I think I sound different.
	Yeah, but you sound different because you're using a different mic.
	And so this is one of the guys...
	Maybe I was still stoned back then.
	Am I baking?
	No, this is the mic.
	No, you were stopped being stoned, I think, around episode 100.
	You're right.
	It was on the dais, talking to the press, when what I thought was NASA was going to go bomb the moon.
	And...
	The only thing that's interesting about the picture is he's holding up a big cardboard picture.
	Here it is.
	Space scientist has held his spine.
	This is it.
	Actually, I'm not going to tell you what.
	I want you to look at this link, John, and you tell me what you see.
	So I should have cut this down.
	What is strange.
	Yeah.
	So you don't have to read the story.
	That's coming up.
	But just look at the picture.
	His name is Stuart Nozette.
	And this is a briefing about the original LCROSS project, which of course was the moon bombing, which we now know was actually intended to bomb someone else's moon base.
	It had nothing to do with finding water.
	But now look at this picture, John.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	You just basically gave a leap of faith commentary there that has not been discussed on the show.
	Yes, it has.
	What, bombing somebody's base?
	Yeah, of course.
	It wasn't about water.
	It was about bombing someone else's moon base.
	No, you never talked about this.
	Oh.
	Well, I'm sorry.
	Oh, it's about bombing the other moon bases there.
	Okay, yeah, sure.
	Well, and now look at the picture, and what do you see?
	You see, so the guy is holding up the big picture.
	He's in the middle.
	Okay.
	Now, where are they standing?
	Is that NASA? No, it's the Pentagon.
	It's the Pentagon.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	So this was a NASA scientist who attempted to pass on top-secret nuclear and space secrets to a shill, an FBI agent.
	He thought he was passing it on to the Mossad.
	And you read some of the transcripts of the phone calls they taped.
	And he actually says, oh, I was wondering when you guys were going to call me.
	Because, of course, it was Israeli moon bases that we bombed.
	There you go.
	Sorry, I should have cut the beginning off of that.
	There you go.
	You were right, sir.
	I mentioned Israeli moon base.
	Yeah, of course.
	I was right.
	I remember that.
	And I said more stuff after you cut me off.
	That's why I went crazy.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Anyways.
	We're coming back to the future.
	Here we are.
	Back to the present.
	You want to talk about Scotland for a minute?
	Yeah, but I'm getting more confirmation that our prediction of a slim marginal wind only to be recalled and done over might come true.
	I do have a clip that was sent in that is from one of the Scottish TV shows, Scotland One or something, and they play the Scotland One clip, and we get a little background on some of the issues that are cropping up.
	It's very interesting.
	At the Yes Campaign city centre headquarters, we meet its mastermind, Blair Jenkins, chief executive of Yes Scotland.
	We always knew that because most of the mainstream commercial media would be against independence, that our best way of counselling that was to build that very active, numerous, local, community-based campaign.
	And that's what we intended, that's what we've achieved.
	Jenkins dismisses fears that an independent Scotland would be isolated in Europe.
	The fundamental principles of the European Union are those of democracy, self-determination.
	The notion that the countries of the European Union would somehow look to punish the people of Scotland for making a democratic choice doesn't seem to us to stand up.
	But the political ferment of this referendum campaign is not just being felt in the cities.
	The Isle of Bute, off Scotland's western coast.
	Population, 6,000.
	On the island's ferry, passengers weigh up this historic decision.
	What's the main reason why you're looking for a yes boat?
	Well, it's for more progress and the change of living, you know, better living for my children, really, you know.
	Just to have a more fair society and not to be ruled by Westminster anymore.
	Too many unanswered questions.
	The revenue is going to come from oil.
	Nobody knows what resources are left with oil.
	Alright, so there's a number of things going on I think are worth at least discussing because the American public doesn't have a clue about any of this, of course.
	Yeah, exactly.
	There's just some background.
	20% of Scotland supposedly is below the poverty line.
	That's a million people out of a 5 million population.
	And they believe with some justification because of what Thatcher tried to do in the 80s, That they'd be better off without England now that they have these oil wells that are offshore that produce, apparently, the majority of all the EU countries, Scotland has the most oil.
	The most oil is actually owned by Norway, but they're not in the EU. They were wisely...
	Just stayed out of that.
	Stayed out of it, which, by the way, makes you wonder why Scotland doesn't follow Norway's lead, as opposed to demanding to be in the EU and making a big fuss about it and bitching about the fact the French has said, we're not going to vote for that.
	We're not going to approve this, which is a mystery no one's explained.
	Well, but it's one step at a time.
	They would have to be independent first.
	You can't just hop right into the EU.
	Well, the way they see it, they're already EU citizens, and so they can't.
	Oh, interesting.
	That's the way they see it.
	Now, I've read both sides of the argument, and I think both sides of the argument have valid points, and lots of them.
	And I think it's a confusing situation.
	I would say that if it was me and I was there...
	I would probably vote for it, because the Scots have been bitching about being ruled by England for...
	400 years!
	Yeah, 400 years, more or less.
	Come on!
	And it's like, you want to now not vote for...
	You have the opportunity to do this, and apparently they had a similar opportunity in the late 70s, early 80s.
	We'll see.
	But I think...
	The British, the West Ministers, they like to refer to it, I think is probably not going to let this happen.
	Because I think there's so much money in those wells off the Scottish shores that they're not going to let the Scots just walk off with it now.
	Well, it comes across to me that the Scottish population, and we do get a fair amount of emails about this, What could be worse?
	We might as well just do it.
	Let's see what that is.
	We can always do something else.
	I think it's...
	You're right.
	What the guy said in the clip.
	Thank you for my children.
	Let's give this a shot.
	Let's paint our faces blue and let's vote yes.
	And the other thing is, like the guy says, the international media is all against this.
	Why?
	Well, for the obvious reasons.
	The UK wants their oil.
	I really don't think they care about the citizens of Scotland.
	They don't care about any citizens.
	The people is irrelevant.
	It's about the resources.
	Now, what is being played very effectively is, as far as I understand, Scotland has their own national health system, which is different from the mainland UK one.
	And that is a big point that they're very worried at status quo, what will happen to that, but if they feel they will be able to protect it.
	The BBC broadcasts in Scotland, there's been nothing but anti-separation messaging going on.
	And still these people are like, yeah, no, let's do this.
	And I think they will.
	And you're right, this cannot stand.
	So just like Ireland, I don't see why it would be any different with the Lisbon Treaty.
	Okay, we'll let you have your win, and then we'll say it's a do-over.
	I can't even remember how they played the Ireland.
	How did they do that?
	Do you recall what the trick was?
	There was no trick.
	They just did it again.
	They just did it again, right.
	And no one questioned it.
	And about half the people voted the second time.
	Right, right, right.
	It's like, what's the point of the first vote?
	Yeah.
	That's going to happen.
	I'm sure that's what's going to happen.
	I don't know if the Scots will rebel against that.
	No, please.
	Probably not.
	They might change their Twitter icon.
	I could see that.
	I could see that big protest.
	The tartan, yes.
	I see that big protest coming down the pike for sure.
	Hmm.
	You know, the British can always throw a bone.
	I mean, the way they put it now, the no-vote guys, they say that there's X amount of money collected in taxes from Scotland, and Scotland receives X amount back plus $2 billion.
	And so it's like, so how is this a bad thing?
	We're being taxed at this amount, and then we're getting that back plus $2 billion.
	And I'm always thinking, well, this is like a shell game.
	I mean, you're getting money pulled out and you're...
	You know, it's just a bookkeeping.
	What's the point of taxing him at all if you're going to do that?
	Just give him $2 billion.
	So, I mean, there's nothing.
	It doesn't make sense to me.
	That argument seems bogus.
	Adam, can you give me...
	I need $100 from you, and I want this every month.
	I'm going to give you some money in the form of credits or whatever.
	I mean, obviously, you just don't get the money back.
	This whole thing is...
	I would hope that they do this.
	I think it would be fun.
	This would be great for the show.
	And it'd probably be good for the Scots.
	I mean, they stand on their own two feet at this point.
	They've got their own parliament.
	They put that in place 20 or 30 years ago.
	There'd be some nice fistfights.
	That is just generalizing, John.
	Yeah, there'll be fistfights.
	Looks like we have Jean-Claude Junker the Drunker.
	Has thrown his blessing upon the capital markets and has brought in a massive shill to run the...
	To be a commissioner or what is this position this guy is going to have?
	To really unionize...
	To create the capital markets union...
	Which is really the final step once you have the political union, which is pretty much in place in the EU. Now bring all the banks together, which Dyselbloom I think has kind of failed at, the Dutch guy.
	But they're really, really ramping it up now.
	And no one's paying attention.
	I don't think the citizens understand anymore.
	Are they trying to create a European central bank?
	Yeah.
	Well, there already is an ECB. There is a European Central Bank.
	Yeah, but it's really just a paper tiger.
	I mean, the real bank power is still in Germany.
	Right, yeah.
	Well, so where's Jean-Claude Juncker the drunker from?
	Hello, his whole plan.
	But he is giving this to the UK guy, who is London City.
	I'm just looking for his name here.
	Yeah.
	He's in the city of London, which is not even England.
	It's his own country, whatever the financial center is.
	It is, yeah, the creation of the Capital Markets Union.
	Jonathan Hill will be the incoming British commissioner, and it is his job to create the Capital Markets Union.
	Now, the Capital Markets Union, I believe, is then used to create new kinds of bonds, which would be similar to...
	U.S. Treasury bonds.
	Does that make sense?
	Yeah, no, this is being discussed, and this is one of the things some EU members don't like.
	Yeah, like people who just, what happened to my country?
	What is this flag?
	Why am I saluting this while listening to Beethoven's Ode to Joy?
	What am I doing here?
	This can't be right.
	Yeah, it's a pretty good backdoor strategy to take over the whole of Europe.
	It's great.
	Very genius-oriented.
	Meanwhile, while we're talking about this group, I have this clip about Hollande, who just took a joyride and went to Baghdad, and this is a very interesting report.
	I don't know, what is this all about?
	Explain to me.
	Our main headline this hour.
	Francois Hollande is in Baghdad where he's offered support to Iraq's president and the Iraqi government generally.
	Francois Hollande, who is the first foreign head of state to make the visit since the Islamic State took over vast ways of Iraq.
	Visiting head of state as well to land in Baghdad since an Iraqi government was formed after months of wrangling.
	A new Iraqi government was sworn in on Monday, something François Hollande earlier congratulated Iraq's president on.
	Hey, what the hell is the music all about?
	This is showing up on more and more European news shows.
	Yeah, that's not...
	They kind of hypnotize you with the kind of background music as they read stories.
	Yeah, that can't be good.
	It reminds you...
	I think it was invented by the sports networks.
	It can't be good.
	No, it can't be good.
	It's got to be bad.
	I agree.
	But it's going to start happening in the United States.
	You watch.
	It's going to start off slow, and then pretty soon it's going to be the whole news half hour on network news.
	It's going to get a music bed.
	It's going to have a bed.
	I have a piece from NewsHour, which I do not believe contains any music beds.
	This was broadcast on the September 11th edition when we had our show that evening.
	This is about the 28 pages that are missing from the report from the 9-11.
	So this is now going mainstream, which is...
	It's about time.
	Well, 9-11, though.
	Yeah, you can bring it up there.
	It would be forgotten in a month.
	Which, by the way, I'd like to point out, by presidential proclamation...
	Hold on a second.
	Here it is.
	This is the President.
	Never forget the September tragedy that shook our nation's core 13 years ago.
	And then he got a day that began so much like...
	So therefore, I, Barack Obama, President of the United States of America, do hereby proclaim September 11th as Patriot Day and National Day of Service and Remembrance.
	Patriot Day?
	That's weird.
	And I said it again.
	If I didn't say anything, you wouldn't have noticed.
	My finger has to go to the button.
	I mean, it's in my butthole, so it takes a second.
	That is a strange thing.
	What do you think this is all about?
	I think they're trying to turn September 11th into a holiday.
	Yes!
	And we'll celebrate the Patriot Act, as we always do on September 11th, because that came out of it.
	Very good.
	Very good stuff.
	And it's all based on pretty much a flawed investigation.
	28 pages of a joint congressional inquiry into the 9/11 attacks were classified by the George W. Bush administration, which claimed they contained information that would hurt the war on terror.
	But some lawmakers argue the pages reveal little about national security and a great deal about the government of Saudi Arabia's role in the attacks.
	They say that the pages tell the story of Saudi officials meeting with and even funding two of the 9/11 hijackers when they first arrived in the U.S.
	But only a handful of people have seen them, right?
	That's right.
	Right after 9-11, a very unusual congressional inquiry with both the House and the Senate Intelligence Committee chairman convened to find out what had happened.
	And they did quite a lot of research.
	This is before the 9-11 Commission took effect.
	They published their report in 2003, and it was heavily redacted, but there was one entire section, 28 pages, that was taken out entirely.
	And the Bush administration justified it on national security grounds, but congressmen that I've spoken to who have read those 28 pages say it has nothing at all to do with national security, that the Bush administration and the relationship with the Saudis is implicated, And they also admit that it has something to do with the two Saudi hijackers.
	And I've talked to, you know, I talked to the 9-11 commissioners, and Governor Tom Kane, for instance, he's seen those 28 pages.
	He thinks they ought to be released.
	He thinks not just those 28 pages.
	He says this is just a small part of a much larger story.
	There is lots of WTC7 won't go away!
	I think this is part of a...
	Every time I see these sorts of things crop up, this is old.
	This is 11 years old, these missing 28 pages, right?
	More.
	13 years old.
	No, I think this thing came out in 2003.
	I could be wrong.
	Whatever the case is.
	Well, I have my copy here.
	Continue.
	I will grab it.
	It's over a...
	This is not the main investigative report.
	This is the one that came out that they referred...
	They made a long report that was earlier.
	Whatever the case, it's beside the point.
	They are, this is a hit piece against Saudi Arabia.
	There's a bunch of these things going on.
	I look at them as hit pieces because why after 11 years are we starting to point the finger at Saudi Arabia?
	But if you remember during the 9-11 period, we were already, they were already pointing the finger because they guys are all from Saudi Arabia.
	But then they soft-pedaled the whole thing until we could, I don't know what to deal with Saudi Arabia, but something's up with Saudi Arabia.
	I agree 100%.
	I also think there's subtle other media wars going on.
	Al Jazeera.
	Now, do we have a beef with Qatar?
	Are we messing up that relationship now, too?
	Or is it because we can't get the gas pipeline up through Holmes and Aleppo into Turkey?
	Are they pissed off at us for some reason?
	It's a possibility.
	Here's an Al Jazeera report, which was very surprising to a big corporation.
	I point out, of course, Al Jazeera is owned by the Qatari royal family.
	The Boeing 787, sold as a dreamliner.
	An all-new airplane in a once-in-a-decade, if not once-in-a-generation achievement of human ingenuity.
	For airlines, it's cheap to fly.
	For passengers, it offers unparalleled comfort.
	For Boeing, it promised windfall profits.
	The Dreamliner is the plane of the future.
	But Al Jazeera discovers a dark side to the Dreamliner.
	Unimaginable that we could be three years late, have a fleet grounding, have fires on the airplane.
	Our investigation finds Boeing altered its own quality standards.
	They're shortchanging the engineering process to meet a schedule.
	And they have whistleblowers.
	This is a 20-minute hit piece on Boeing, on the Dreamliner, even though Qatar Qatar bought a whole mess of them not too long ago.
	This must be some attack.
	There's something going on.
	Yeah.
	And I've got a hit piece here.
	This was really off the wall.
	This was from Van Kat.
	And it's just an off the wall.
	This is the most off the wall hit piece I've seen for a long time.
	About something that goes back to 1915.
	This is a hit piece on Germany.
	Done by the French.
	And this is about their colony days.
	But play this together.
	It's the tale of a genocide largely forgotten by the wider world.
	More than a century ago, Germany colonized the area of southern Africa, now known as Namibia.
	In the years that followed, tens of thousands of Africans were killed and all opposition was crushed.
	But ultimately, after its defeat in World War I, Germany would lose Namibia and all of its other African colonies.
	Well, as the world marks the centenary of World War I, our reporters have been having a look at Namibia's history and at Germany's shape.
	Shameful roll in.
	Yeah, we're poking them with a stick.
	Is that not a hit piece?
	Yeah, they're poking Germany with a stick.
	A few years ago, people, but on a shameful...
	Hey, I'm poking you.
	And then they use, of course, genocide.
	It follows up.
	It's a long report, actually.
	It goes on for about 15 minutes.
	And they're in Namibia and they interview some old Germans that are still there.
	And it's very interesting.
	And I didn't know any.
	It was a very good history.
	There are...
	Nothing's up.
	Yes.
	I think we're already in the Info World War III. Something along those lines can't be missed.
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	Out Magazine is promoting.
	Their next episode will shock the world.
	Do you subscribe to Out Magazine?
	No, I know about it.
	It essentially outs people for being gay.
	Not exactly.
	Out Magazine is an LGBTQIAP magazine.
	And recently, Michelle Obama said that she will be featured in the cover feature of Out Magazine coming up, I presume, the October issue.
	Okay.
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	Oh, she's going to come out?
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	She said that?
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	It's a cheap tease.
	I love it.
	We're all in a tizzy.
	What if Michelle is a tranny?
	Yeah, it seems unlikely.
	Although Joan Rivers, of course, she ended up dead.
	They killed her for saying it, so maybe they have to...
	But that is obviously what the tease is all about.
	I'd be hurt if I was her.
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	You know, all it's going to be is my prediction.
	It's going to be a boring Playboy magazine-like interview with Michelle that goes nowhere.
	Probably right.
	You know, we like to support the community, blah, blah, blah.
	Anyway, yeah.
	So I have an interesting little piece of little clippage.
	So I'm watching one of the NBC affiliates You're saying essentially a lot today.
	Ooh.
	You.
	Yeah.
	And I've backed off of this, and I'm hearing it everywhere now.
	Yeah, I got it.
	And because it is a very weak use of the word, which kind of means, don't disregard any thinking.
	Just believe me.
	Yeah.
	Okay, I'm going to change it.
	Now, disregard any thinking.
	Just believe me on this.
	Oh, thank you.
	At least you're being honest.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	They have the guy doing his report from the store, and it's essentially a promotion for the store.
	He admits it is.
	And then they have a little...
	This, to me, epitomizes the conflicts of interest that you have in mainstream media.
	And then he follows it up with...
	I have the two-parter here.
	This is the outrageous ANTV promotion.
	Then I got the part two, which is a short part.
	And part two is not really...
	is another point I'm going to make.
	But let's listen to this ridiculous...
	Ridiculous weather report.
	What you do here at Levi's Stadium is SHOP. Chief Meteorologist Jeff Ranieri is in the team store and Jeff I understand you already found yourself some goodies at the store.
	Yes we are right here where all of the action is.
	We're not even at the season home opener which of course is on Sunday and people are already coming into the doors of the team store.
	Check out the registers back here behind me and you can see they are very very busy.
	I just learned that Anyone that wants to come in here tonight can come on in and check things out.
	I mean, this place is gigantic.
	It is probably as big as maybe a football field in terms of square footage.
	As my photographer pans on back, you can see just the depth of all of that 49er paraphernalia.
	They've got cups.
	They've got keychains.
	They have stuffed animals.
	They have stuffed animals.
	They have stuff for kids.
	Yes, it feels a little bit like a commercial, but we are, of course, one of the sponsors of the 49ers this year.
	We are very proud to call them an NBC Bay Area partner.
	And let's come on in.
	Since I'm your personal shopper tonight, we'll show you some of the things you can't miss.
	The Levi's Stadium inaugural season t-shirt.
	They said this will fly off the shelves.
	It's already a commemorative item.
	You can only get that at this store.
	Ladies, check out this t-shirt.
	Goes on and on.
	Yeah, but it's not a commercial.
	No, no, no.
	Just because they happen to be responsible.
	But here's an interesting little tidbit that came up at the end.
	He finishes this promotion, does the weather, comes out of the weather report with a little tidbit on what sells the most.
	Mm-hmm.
	What sells the most at the store?
	And then I'm dedicating this clip to Eric DeShill.
	And of course, Sunday Night Football right here on NBC Bay Area.
	If you couldn't snag a ticket, you're going to watch it at home.
	Kick off at 5.30.
	We've got 86 degrees and sunny skies.
	It looks fantastic.
	Jessica, I asked what the most popular item is.
	You might be shocked to find out.
	It is a lanyard lanyard.
	People love to put their passes in, show it off.
	So I thought it was maybe a t-shirt or football or something.
	It's a lanyard.
	So get the lanyards.
	They say they sell out sometimes.
	Let me tell you, lanyards are popular.
	Lanyards.
	People love a lanyard.
	I know, I know.
	That's Eric the Shield's idea.
	He was giving free lanyards to people who ordered anything, I think.
	And I think he slips them in once in a while with a night ring.
	But I was just like, what?
	Did football season just start?
	Yeah, this is like the second week.
	Oh, okay.
	So that's why we had all this bull.
	Oh, okay.
	It was a promotion.
	I get it now.
	Yeah.
	The Ray Rice thing.
	I didn't understand.
	It's all a promotion.
	Everything's a promotion.
	Why are we watching TV? Because I have to report on it.
	It's my job.
	I have to dissect it all the time.
	And why is the news, when the president very clearly said ISIL, he was consistent.
	ISIL. Yes, it's become ISIL. But he says ISIL. Some people say ISIL. No, no, no.
	That's not my point.
	CNN is saying ISIS. Yeah, why?
	Because it's a different group.
	You know, the thing is, well, it's not a different group.
	We don't believe any of these are even a group.
	But I think that at some point you have to bite the bullet on this stuff.
	And you have to go with what the president says.
	If he calls it ISIL, and he calls it specifically ISIL. Yeah, but there should be a style guide.
	Yeah, it should be.
	It used to be ISIS, ISIL, or whatever, or Islamic State.
	They had all these long branding problems, or actually the benefits.
	And then you finally boil it down to ISIL. But as far as I'm concerned, it's ISIL. I mean, it ruins our one jingle, the ISIS, ISIS baby.
	Well, we have a couple of them now.
	But we have the best one, which is the ISIS-ISIL go to hell or whatever it is.
	Let's just play that while we still can.
	ISIS-ISIS or ISIS-ISIL. We will follow them to the gates of hell.
	Hell!
	Hell!
	Yeah, that's a rhymer.
	That's ISIS-ISIL. Perfect.
	And then the other one, which we had, the other ISIS one.
	Yeah, ISIS-ISIS baby.
	Yeah.
	So...
	Anyways, I got one more thing I want to do.
	Let me just play that one while we're at it.
	Nice.
	I like that one because it has the explosion.
	Yeah, and it's timed well.
	Yeah, it's timed well.
	The explosion, right, the explosion is dropped in right there, right where it belongs.
	I was watching the Today Show.
	Well, I'm reading Mein Kampf to brush up on propaganda tactics.
	You are reading, you are watching the Today Show.
	Okay.
	So they're going off on fat people in one of those, as we read the guy who did the, I'm going to kill my, it's illegal for me to say I want to kill my wife.
	Right.
	It's horrible.
	I'm going to tell you something.
	It's horrible that I'm going to say these things.
	And this is the discussion.
	This is a classic Today Show discussion about social media.
	I don't even know why I watched any of this crap.
	I can't figure out which clip it is.
	This is the one that says fat discussion on Today Show.
	Got it.
	This piece we read earlier.
	Mm-hmm.
	See what you think about it.
	A post on xojane.com titled, "I wrote an article about marriage and all anyone noticed is that I'm fat." In June, Minnesota writer Galit Breen wrote a story for Huffington Post, "12 Secrets Happily Married Women Know." But there was more feedback apparently about her wedding photo than the story.
	She offered a photograph to accompany the story.
	Reader posts included, "Huff and puff, you love fat women and don't marry a heifer." I'm sorry, I have to say those things on TV, but those were the comments.
	In her follow-up she wrote, there are very few times I think it's okay to comment on a woman's body in a complimentary or negative way.
	I think we all need to stop that conversation to consider it taboo.
	Yeah, I mean, it's outrageous that people feel like can comment.
	I mean, just never comment on body, period.
	What are they trying to accomplish?
	What does that do for anybody?
	Makes them feel better about themselves?
	Are they eating Cheetos?
	I don't know.
	It's horrible.
	We've had this conversation a million times online.
	It's anonymous.
	People feel like they're just putting it out there and it doesn't matter.
	But you're talking to somebody and about somebody and it's gross.
	It hurts, and in fact, the writer went on to say how much it sort of emotionally destroyed her, and she cried about it until her husband put it all in perspective.
	She has a healthy, happy marriage.
	And they're idiots.
	That's the joy of it.
	She was writing a piece about having a good marriage.
	Anyway, if you needed a study, the University College London conducted a study and they proved that fat shaming does not work.
	I'm liking it.
	Experience negative comments like the ones we shared.
	They weren't encouraged to lose weight.
	They may gain weight actually from comfort eating.
	I will tell you from experience, you know, and it's one of the things I've talked about.
	Nagging somebody about their weight, whether it's a loved one, you're not helping them.
	We all look in the hair.
	You're pushing them for weight.
	You know, you're aware of that.
	We know we're fat, okay?
	We know it.
	Now we want to remind you.
	Anyway, let's show you what we've got going on.
	Let's look ahead to the week.
	Alright, now, I listen to this stuff as all precursors to taking the internet and shutting down this crap.
	Oh, all of this.
	John, you are so right.
	We've got to shut down the evil ISIL videos.
	We've got to shut down all the hate speech.
	Hate.
	We've got to shut down all of the negativity, the bullying.
	We've got to shut it all down.
	And this is why you want to become involved in the camping of social media.
	Which is ham radio, obviously.
	Which is very restricted, too.
	Yeah.
	But anyway, I listen to this stuff, and it's just all propaganda about all the anonymous comments.
	They've been trying to bust these anonymous commenters.
	It is free speech, by the way.
	But this whole thing about free speech, they're trying to clamp down on...
	Free speech because of Citizens United, so you can't do political ads have to be approved.
	And you can only spend so much.
	By the government.
	Anyway, it's all bad.
	But it's always presented as, oh, that poor woman.
	Poor fat person.
	Yeah, well, they go off, you know, fat, and it'll be something else.
	Skinny, pot marks, pimples, you know.
	Oh, they just made fun of some person, and the person was sickened by it.
	The good news is that no matter what is done, the network itself is unstoppable.
	So no matter what they think they're going to do, there will always be ways to utilize the network to communicate.
	It just will not be on the scale.
	You won't be able to do a lot of things, and most people won't be aware of it.
	It will still be usable.
	The network itself, I think, is just a virus that cannot be stopped.
	All the protocols on top, yeah, they're going to run around and try and restrict a lot of that.
	Good on them.
	I have a very bleak outlook today.
	I don't feel good about anything that I've said or seen.
	Well, that's because there's not much good that...
	Well, you know, it's a slow news day.
	I've been reading this book, The End of Absence, by Michael Harris, reclaiming what we've lost in a world of constant connection.
	I recommend that.
	Take a look at that book.
	It talks a lot about...
	There's a lot of research material.
	Michael Harris.
	Why does that name ring a bell?
	Michael Harris?
	Michael Harris.
	Michael Harris.
	Sure.
	But I'm enjoying this book, and his conclusion is what we're losing right now is absence.
	The just being absent-minded or just...
	But we make up for it on this show.
	Let's see.
	Yeah.
	Sorry about the delay on your laughing.
	All right.
	I'm looking him up.
	You look him up.
	You see, there's a million, this is a problem when you have a guy like, he names like...
	The End of Absence is the book.
	While you're looking that up, I will read, we have a new member.
	Of the No Agenda Tourette's Club, and I want to welcome our new member, who, however, does wish to remain anonymous with an email.
	Thanks to all of your hilarious talk about Tourette's and superpowers, I've come to begin suspecting I had TS, which, as you know, is the MSM version of Tourette's Syndrome.
	We like to think of it as not as, or Tourette's Sufferers.
	We like to think of it more as a benefit.
	Come to find out, after bringing it up with my parents, I was told, in fact, I do have a mild case of Tourette's.
	So in a way, I can consider your talk of Tourette's as yet another service of your fine podcast.
	That I know that now, yes, I am a Tourette's sufferer.
	I have so far acknowledged every one of your superpowers from remembering long strings of numbers, being able to catch things that fall off things rather easily, even though I have no depth perception, among others that I can't remember right now.
	My ticks range from extending my elbows to crack it, and that's a good one.
	I've had that sequence for a while.
	Also, rolling of the ankle while walking.
	Yeah, that's where you put your, not ankle, but I think he means your heel.
	So you put your heel down and then you turn your heel.
	It's a very weird one.
	It gives you the silly walk from Monty Python.
	Okay.
	Along with individual shoulder shrugs and, most recently, a neck craning from side to side until it cracks.
	He has the cracked Tourette's.
	That's very annoying.
	When I'm alone, I look like a nutjob, but little do they know about my data-crunching, object-catching superpowers.
	I keep it relatively under control, but as soon as I'm alone, it all comes out in a string of spasms and ticks that probably looks ridiculous.
	Yes, this is what we do.
	When we're either alone or podcasting, I tick like a crazy man podcasting.
	Yeah, that's why I can't do this on camera.
	I would be uncomfortable.
	It would not be the same show.
	Well, you've done this on camera before.
	You were on this show recently, somebody's show, and you're on camera.
	Yeah, so I'm using a significant percentage of my superpowers just to keep the ticking down to a minimum, and that's a waste of resources.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Anyway, we want to welcome this new member to our natc.noagendanotes.com, the No Agenda Tourette's Club.
	Welcome!
	You're among friends.
	You're among friends.
	All right.
	Anything else?
	Let's see.
	We've got a couple of things here that we can do.
	Yeah?
	Because I'm supposed to keep an eye on the time, and I think we're...
	No, no, no, no.
	We have plenty of time.
	Okay.
	How about this?
	You're talking about...
	I was watching a lot of hearings.
	There was a lot that came out of them.
	But there was this one hearing on cyberterrorism and terrorism.
	They combined the two cyberterrorists.
	Oh, yeah.
	This was a very...
	I watched half of it.
	Yeah, it was very boring.
	Very boring.
	But I thought this was kind of interesting.
	This is a guy, they're introducing this general, I don't have his name written down there, but this is an example of, this guy is a, he was a brigadier general, then he was in some, then he was in some secretary of state position, then he was in, and he goes through all these different jobs, and now he's Part of some terrorism, Homeland Security, he's back in government.
	He went from government to private sector to government, actually government, government, government, private sector, for eight years, and then government.
	And just try to pick up the private sector mention, and tell me if it's kind of amusing what company he was vice president.
	Okay.
	...along with the steps that we still need to take to prevent this from happening.
	We'll drill down on this threat and its impact on our homeland, both in this open hearing as well as in a classified briefing directly following.
	But that's not all we're going to do.
	In addition to examining the more conventional terrorist threats, the instability in Iraq and Syria...
	No, no, no, no, that's not the right clip.
	The clip I want is lip-smacking...
	I'm so sorry.
	I'm so sorry.
	...to General...
	I'm so sorry.
	Cool.
	If we can do more, God bless us.
	On behalf of all the members of our committee, thank you for joining us today.
	Our first witness is retired Brigadier General Francis Taylor.
	Mr.
	Taylor is the Undersecretary for Intelligence and Analysis in the Department of Homeland Security.
	How long have you been in that job now, General?
	Four months.
	Four months.
	Good.
	In this role, he provides the secretary, DHS leadership, DHS components in state and local, tribal and private sector partners with the Homeland Security intelligence and information they need to keep our country safer, secure and resilient.
	General Taylor came to DHS with 31 years of service in the U.S. Air Force.
	Four years in the State Department as Counterterrorism Coordinator and as the Assistant Secretary for Diplomatic Security and eight years as Vice President at General Electric.
	Second witness is...
	Yeah.
	Would it be GE? General Electric.
	Now, I'm looking at this guy.
	I just sense that I can't be sure.
	I doubt that he can even use a computer.
	Yeah, I saw this whole group and I was so underwhelmed that after 45 minutes, and it takes 45 minutes for everyone to do their opening statements.
	Oh, these opening statements are the worst.
	Thank you, and oh, you're so fantastic, and thank you for your service, and blah.
	Yeah.
	Well, during this, one of the guys, and I think it's that guy who was the head of National Counterterrorism or something, but I thought this was worth listening to.
	This is the four groups of cyber, there's cyber terrorism, they're trying to combine it so they can spend more money, taxpayers' money, waste it.
	But I didn't realize there are four groups.
	Four groups that are cyber terrorists, and this is what they are.
	The bottom line is we're losing a lot of data, money, ideas, and innovation to a wide range of cyber adversaries.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and there should be a fifth group, which is every Silicon Valley company that has an app on your slave device.
	They're the ones really sucking you dry.
	Yeah.
	I'm turning into this Luddite, and I don't like it.
	That's why I think I'm helping influence that.
	Yeah.
	JC, even though I still, you know, but JC had this interesting argument.
	You know, he's the one who pointed out that they used that mosquito device or whatever it was when the president was in town and turned on everybody's iPhone.
	The Viper.
	The Viper.
	Is it Viper?
	No.
	No.
	I thought it was a mosquito or a hornet.
	No, the sucker, the stinger, the stingray.
	Stingray.
	He says that all of iPhones in the office, and everybody uses an iPhone because they're all part of the religion.
	And, of course, my comment at the table is always, well, why don't you just take the battery out?
	You don't have to worry about it.
	Not out of the iPhone, my friend.
	And then I go, what?
	That makes no sense.
	Why would you build a device like that?
	Anyway.
	He had another comment recently.
	He swears this is true.
	Every time Apple comes out with a new phone, the programs, the speed, and everything on the old Apple phones degrades.
	Oh, yeah.
	So it slows down, it doesn't work right anymore, and it just gets worse.
	Every time he notices people, every time a new phone comes out, the old phone stops working well.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's also the OS. They come up with the new OS and all this stuff.
	Why would that make the old phone out?
	It's planned obsolescence.
	Come on, John.
	You know how this works.
	It's worse than that.
	They make these people, as we noticed with that clip from Fox, People who are into the iPhone, they buy the new one.
	It's like the same market.
	I don't even know if they're cultivating new buyers.
	The old buyers, they're all in.
	Oh, I'm getting a new one.
	Okay, I'm going to finish now.
	Do you have more clips or can I just finish?
	Well, I have...
	Yeah, I do, actually.
	Okay.
	I've got the lip-smacking guy.
	And we did the lip-smacking guy.
	Yeah, the cyber...
	That we can do without.
	The DOJ... I think I can float.
	Yeah, I think I'm good.
	Float on?
	There are more sanctions being put on the Russians for some unknown reason.
	No one's explained that to me.
	Even though they put the ceasefire up.
	No, we're going to have to get back, I think, in the next couple days.
	We will need to get back to Putin.
	I think there's more anti-gay, Putin hates gays news coming out.
	Something that may catch a little fire there.
	I don't think we will have...
	Another decapitation or beheading.
	What happened to decapitation?
	Why is it now beheading?
	Beheading is more dramatic.
	Because the word head is in there.
	We could probably take a Deadpool on this.
	I think probably before the next show there won't be, but I think there will be shortly thereafter.
	For next Sunday, probably.
	And I will just say that I would like everybody to...
	Pay attention to your own habits, but to those around you, and you will see that there is something so profoundly important happening with human beings today that is accelerating, and this latest Apple product, which is, you know, when it said Samsung or Modo or whatever, it's like, meh, but now it says Apple.
	It is the official sanctioned church version.
	There is something happening, and people will start to die.
	Ha!
	Jeez!
	Yeah, you watch.
	Well, you got me off guard on that one.
	I'm telling you, people will start to die in strange ways.
	This is big.
	Well, I almost ran somebody over the other day who just stepped into the street while looking at the phone and texting.
	That's one way.
	Yeah.
	There is...
	Bad things are afoot.
	And save yourself...
	Just save yourself.
	Leave your phone at home.
	Try it.
	Opt out, people.
	Opt out.
	That's the best advice I can give you.
	And opt your kids out for a while, too.
	Or as much as you can.
	You're creating zombies.
	Stop it.
	Well, that's what you get when you turn 50.
	That's what it is.
	You're turning into an old fart.
	I'm going to have to go out and party or something to get back into my boyhood.
	Well, that's not going to happen.
	Coming to you from FEMA Region 6, where it is chilly!
	In the morning, everybody, my name is Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's not chilly in the least, and I've embraced my farthood, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We will be back on Thursday.
	Join us, will you?
	Right here on No Agenda.

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