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Come on, we've seen this.
The most sophisticated terrorist group we've ever seen.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Sunday, September 7th, 2014.
Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination.
Episode 650.
This is no agenda.
With the final broadcast from the Wi-Fi-enabled canal house in the pipe in the heart of Amsterdam.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where there is no Wi-Fi, I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackmon Buzzkill in the morning.
I'll give you a five for creative execution on that.
That sucked.
There is no Wi-Fi.
What does that even mean?
It doesn't mean anything.
It was just dumb.
Okay, thank you.
I just want to make sure we're all straight on that.
Okay, it's my last show.
That's the joke of it.
I do have Wi-Fi.
I know, so it's not a very funny joke.
No, it was a bomb.
It was a complete, total disaster.
We were listening to episode 649-er.
Who do we?
Miss Mickey and I. She could not listen to it live, and I think today we finally fixed it so she's in the bedroom and she can listen to the show live with a little stream delay, which she misses it.
Yeah, she does, because she gives her the opportunity to come into the studio and punch you in the arm every so well.
Exactly, yeah.
With a delayed reaction, whatever I say.
You know, it's coming 20 seconds later.
Yeah, you don't even remember what it was because it's like three minutes ago.
Exactly.
Why?
So we were listening to the show, and I apologize.
I don't think I noticed it about the birthday party.
We had like a 30-minute thing about my 50th birthday party and how nice it was.
And Mickey said that, oh, listen to John.
He's playing Happy Birthday on the harmonica, which I presume you had studied.
Yes.
Aww.
You did, right?
Sometimes you paid zero attention.
I'm a little trained to ignore the noise known as the harmonica so that I can continue with the program, but I thought that was so sweet that I wanted to give you some inspiration for some other things I think you should play with the harmonica and it would come in handy during the show.
I have a pen.
Well, you don't need a pen.
Just listen.
one I'd like you to be able to play.
Do you know it yet?
I don't know this song, but you know I don't know how they get those piano tones out of the harp.
I don't know how they do it.
This is Toots Tielemons, by the way.
Dutch, one of the famous harp players.
Listen, this is for the theme from Midnight Cowboy.
It's such a classic, John.
You can do that.
It's all down.
Don't you think that would be good?
You could play that for me?
Well, yeah, I could do an underplay while you're one of your sorry tales.
Yes, exactly.
Or I have another one.
This is a little more contemporary, but still from our youth.
Now, if you could do this one.
Yeah.
You think you could do this one?
Hit me now!
You can't do that?
I can do that.
That's Super Tramp.
Take the long way home.
You could just do that beat.
Hit me!
Fat me!
That would be perfect if you could do that.
Yeah, it's all right in your time frame.
Good stuff.
I just thought I'd give you a little inspiration, my friend.
Yeah, no, I was hoping you'd give me some more harmonic hats.
That's what I'm looking for.
There will be none of that.
No.
Yeah, the harmonic hats, that's what I'm going for.
Well, John, let's get into some news here.
This, of course, is my last show live here from Amsterdam.
I'll be returning back to home base on Tuesday.
This will be our last report directly from the feats on the ground in the Eurozone.
Correct, and there's a lot to discuss.
But the thing that I'm feeling a little unsure about, although you warned us months in advance, is this Ebola thing.
This is getting a little annoying.
I don't know if you saw the...
It's a link in the show notes.
It actually caught my eye because it was one of those listicles.
And you know how listicles work.
Like, uh, must click.
Analystical is 16 apocalyptic quotes from global health officials about this horrific Ebola epidemic.
And it's from the Economic Collapse blog, which tells you kind of about the source.
But they do have 16...
This is not 33.
No.
So, I was reading through them, and there is only one non-real obvious shill in this list.
But let me just give you a few, and then I have clips, and I believe you have some clips too.
So, Dr.
Tom Friedman, who is the director of the Centers for Disease Control...
He says, it is the world's first Ebola epidemic, and it is spiraling out of control.
It's bad now, and it's going to get worse in the very near future.
This is where the Midnight Cowboy thing will be good.
There is still a window of opportunity to tamp it down, but that window is closing.
And this quote, and this is from the Chan woman and all these different people, all doctors without borders, everybody's in a tizzy.
But it was this particular quote that sent me to go looking a little bit.
And here is Sanjay Gupta.
And he is, you know, he's the CNN doctor guy.
And this is, I think, the intro.
He has on with him Brajiv Shah.
And, you know, my take on this Ebola thing has been this is a threat to African nations, and it is our way of saying either you let us in or we're going to kill you with Ebola.
Because clearly we can save our own people.
We have, you know, the MZAP or whatever it's called.
There's none left.
You didn't get the latest.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Well, I'm sure we can make some more.
But here he is, and this is when the lights started to go off in my head.
We know how it spreads.
We know how to stop it from...
This is Fried, what's his name, the Frieden doctor.
...spreading.
The challenge is to do that everywhere that's needed.
But frankly, you know, I'm not entirely sure what that means.
I think details really do matter here, and we haven't heard enough specifics...
We certainly haven't seen enough results.
And in that vein, I want to bring in Dr.
Rajiv Shah.
He's the head of the USAID. He's also, I think, fair to say the new man in charge of the United States Ebola response.
Welcome back to the program, Raj.
Okay.
All right.
So now the head of USAID is in charge of the Ebola response from America?
Not the CDC, no, no, the USAID. Well, I'll let this guy talk for a moment, then we'll talk about who he is.
Thank you, Sanjay.
Thanks for having me.
Let me just start off by asking a broader question.
What is the United States' obligation in something like this, and how and when does that get determined?
The United States obligation is actually quite clear.
It's to mount and to help support an international effort to help our Liberian colleagues get over this Ebola crisis.
And Dr.
Frieden is exactly right to point out with 3,500 cases and 1,900 deaths, this is an urgent epidemic that demands an urgent and at-scale response.
And we have a clear strategy that we're pursuing together with international partners to make sure that that happens.
So this is the guy, we've talked about him before.
He came from the Mill and Belinda Gates Foundation.
Ah, right, that guy.
He was the big guy on campus there, and then he moved into 2009, USAID, big pals with Hillary, we've played several clips, and he talks here now with Sanjay about the strategy and the investments and all kinds of very interesting words he's using to describe how we are going to tamp The Ebola crisis.
There simply has not been nearly enough treatment available for people with Ebola, which is why we're now pursuing a strategy of getting 1,000 beds set up in Liberia to treat patients with Ebola.
And yesterday we noted an increase of our investment of 75 million additional dollars.
What do you think he means by that, our investment?
It can only mean that if you invest...
You expect to receive a bigger return at some nominal risk of losing all your money, but investing to me sounds like there's something else going on.
Do you feel this is just normal speech for USAID? Yes, I do.
I don't think it's a red flag, personally.
Especially if it came from Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
They talk that way.
Valley bullshit terminologies.
To help make sure that is a well-resourced, at-scale and effective response.
You mentioned some of the specifics of the dollar amount, the number of beds that will be created as a result of that.
What about the infrastructure overall?
These problems that you describe are not going to go away, right?
This is a response to an outbreak right now.
We know there's another outbreak happening in Congo, a different strain of Ebola.
These happen all the time.
Why won't each outbreak in the future be like this now?
Is this the way outbreaks are going to be?
This should not be the way outbreaks are going to be handled.
In fact, that's why we're putting in place a strategy that will tamp this down in West Africa.
Okay, so this is now the second time I've heard the word tamp.
Yes, I've written both of them down.
And it's annoying because...
It's a pipe smoker.
Well, the word tamp, by no means does it mean stop Ebola, eradicate, remove it from the face of the earth.
No, it means just to pat down lightly.
Why?
And the director of the CDC also used this word.
Why are we using the word TAMP? I think that's an interesting observation.
This is what made me feel that That is a threat in a way.
It's like, oh, we'll just tamp it down, but don't worry.
By the way, in Dutch, tamp has a whole different connotation.
Also some thrusting stuff.
But we have this perfect storm of this combo of the Power Africa, which is the big initiative that President Obama had all of the African leaders over with their shaking sticks and their bacon hats and their capes and And all of this regal stuff they walk around, and their supermodel wives.
We have now confirmed Power Africa is a U.S. government organization, has in total received a $6 billion investment, much of which is coming from the private sector, as you can imagine, General Electric.
It's a very interesting little thing they've put together, this Power Africa.
And if you look at the countries, and this is to power Africa.
Well, it's to kick out the Chinese, I guess.
I don't know exactly what it is, other than, you know, the economic hitman stuff.
The countries are Ethiopia, Ghana, Kenya, Liberia, Nigeria, and Tanzania.
So we've got two down.
I'm looking at Ethiopia, Ghana.
I think Ghana already has the Ebola.
Has Kenya received it yet?
No.
So I'm keeping this list handy.
We'll call it the Ebola 6.
Ebola 6.
Just in case.
Well, it seems like a coincidence that the parts of this list are now covered in Ebola.
And then we have these...
Just fantastic videos for us, although I think this is BBC. This was really good.
This was like right out of the World War Z zombie script.
Dramatic pictures have emerged of an Ebola patient who escaped quarantine being chased by a panicked mob in Liberia.
There's a guy walking around all sweaty, and the mob is like...
The man left hospital looking for food when he was spotted by people at a market.
He armed himself with a stick and tried to run away from doctors who were called in to catch him.
After hosing him down, he was taken back to hospital.
They hosed him down.
More than 1,500 people in four West African countries have died from Ebola since the outbreak.
I think we'll see more of this.
I have a similar clip from last show.
I carried it forward.
You can play it.
Another example of this sort of thing, the public panicking.
The Ebola guy here?
Ebola guy.
Thanks.
The world is losing the battle to contain Ebola.
That's a dire warning from medical agency Medicine Sans Frontieres that's calling for a global biological disaster response to get aid and personnel to West Africa.
The comments came as a third American health worker tested positive for the deadly virus while working with patients in Liberia, while a man affected with Ebola managed to escape from a treatment center in the capital, Monrovia, sparking panic.
Wait, this is a different guy escaping.
Yeah, this is going on instantly.
It needs to be a little more zombie-like, though.
Among the population.
This is good.
Yes.
The man in the red shirt has just escaped from a quarantine center in Monrovia after testing positive for Ebola.
He's been roaming through a local market in search of food.
It's the same guy!
It's a different story, though.
They portray it differently.
Yeah, I like that.
I like that.
There's some dude who has chicken pox.
He has a fever.
They've made this great story out of it.
Slowly, an angry mob closes in on the patient as he tries to push them away with stones.
Local residents are fed up and scared.
This is bullcrap.
Oh, it ended there.
What happened?
I ended it.
Oh.
I just wondered if he was pushing him away with stones.
I have a question for you.
Of all the philanthropy going on, including in Africa, and reading into and extrapolating from the comments from Dr.
Rajiv Shah of USAID, the price tag for stopping Ebola is about $600 million.
This would stop it in West Africa, it would stop it in Nigeria, and it would certainly protect the United States from this.
Why doesn't Bill Gates write a check?
Well, I have a whole bunch of clips from almost two, three, four shows ago that I'm going to bring back into the discussion.
I don't believe they want to stop it, A. And I think what they want to do, and I've got enough documentation, I think I can prove this, or at least through clippage, that they just want to turn Africa into a testing ground.
For?
For Ebola vaccines and advanced forms of Ebola and...
You know, just use the Africans as guinea pigs, which is not something new.
I mean, there's lots of documentation.
In fact, I had a printout here.
Isn't that what they've been doing all along?
The HPV, which is killing people.
Ebola has been a tough nut to crack because everybody thinks that the Europeans are bringing Ebola in, which may be true.
And so they have to be convinced of good intentions.
And so I think they're going to let this thing simmer for a while.
I don't see it that 1,900 people.
We remember when this began, which was over a month ago, maybe two months ago.
It was a long time.
Yeah.
To only have this many, you know, like less than 4,000 people infected and 1,900 dead.
It's disappointing to say the least.
It's very disappointing.
It's much lower than you'd think if it was an out-of-control situation.
Although you see, I don't think I clipped this.
This is from Yahoo.
Ebola could reach the United States by the end of the month!
Yeah.
Right.
It's already in the United States.
They brought some people in earlier.
That could be bull crap, by the way.
And then they got some guy in Minnesota now for some unknown reason.
Anyway, I get to Margaret Chan.
You know, there are WHO nutball.
Yes.
Competent woman making some commentary.
And I think it's funny that this disease, which is supposed to be...
Endemic to bats and some other things, which I still think is a created disease for Dietrich.
I think she almost kind of says that when she gives this little report here.
This Ebola epidemic is the largest and most severe and most complex we've ever seen in the nearly 40-year history of this disease.
No one, even outbreak responders, would experience dating back to 1976 to 1995.
People that were directly involved with those outbreaks, none of them have ever seen anything like it.
Hmm.
What you're saying is this version of Ebola, was it for Dietrich creation or Ebola in general?
Well, I don't know where this version came from, but this is a new version, obviously, because it's got a new name.
2.0.
Yes, 2.0, and it's a little harder to contain, although once it goes into the urban setting, I don't know, this whole thing is fishy.
Well, that's why I'm calling it the Ebola 6.
I feel that, yes, maybe testing.
Yes, always good to scare the public.
These guys, they love it.
I think what they would like, even though this is a little second part of the show...
And who was they?
Who was they in this case?
They, the shadow governments.
Ah, the New World Order, yes.
They would like to get rid of Africans in some way that's extremely selective.
And then the Ebola thing, because we had all these...
Caucasians catching the disease and then having to be brought back to the United States for treatment so they could better study it and maybe centrifuge the person.
Why would we want to get rid of the Africans?
Don't we need people to work there for the mining and everything?
We don't even want that.
You know, you want some people there.
Right now, it's just that it's not controllable.
The Chinese bring their own people into work.
Even the Chinese don't use many African workers.
The Africans are flying with it because the Chinese actually build roads and actually...
This puts you squarely in one of the largest conspiracy theorist camps that AIDS was created to diminish Africa's population.
Yes, he says.
Hello.
Is John there?
Who are you and what have you done with the real John C. Dvorak?
This does fit in with what's happening with HPV. Was that Columbia?
Yeah.
Maybe they were testing it over there where a lot of Colombians had very adverse reactions.
The HPV thing, I think, is just pure money grabbing.
Now, you've got to play this.
If you have more to talk about Ebola, you can do it after this.
So I'm watching New York.
This is what's going on in New York right now on the television.
This is an HPV. What's the name of this clip?
HPV vaccine.
Okay.
Today, you can help protect your preteen against several deadly cancers.
Today, you can save their life.
Because today, you can ask their doctor about the HPV vaccine.
It can cut their risk for certain HPV-related cancers by up to 99%.
So protect your preteen son or daughter with the HPV vaccine today.
Talk to their doctor, call 311, or search HPV on nyc.gov.
The HPV vaccine.
One day, it could save your child's life.
Yeah.
Now this to me was...
Wow.
This is the NYC.gov.
This is the City of New York's advertising.
Oh yeah, they're all in on it, sure.
And they're all in on this, and this is a very expensive vaccine.
I didn't even hear a potential, you know, side effects or any of that, which seems to me that would be, if this is pretty much an advertisement for Gardazil, I don't think there's anyone else who, you know, there is one competing one, but even so, Gardazil pretty much is the winner in the HPV vaccination.
Shouldn't they say, you know, here are the things, the adverse effects, if, you know, if you have anal leakage, call your doctor or something like that?
I wonder.
I'm wondering why it's not there.
This is a straight out commercial.
It's a today.
By the way, every time they say today, a big round logo shows up that says today written on it.
I think there's some campaign that is going to use this logo today, today, today.
And I thought it was an onerous commercial.
There was nothing negative about it.
Which, by the way, if you think about it, you're watching these types of commercials and you get used to that little threat at the end, threat to your health.
And you don't get one on the show.
Well, it must be safe.
The question you ask is the question you should ask.
Here, let me see.
I had...
Hold on a second.
I did not clip this, but there was a report, and I don't know...
Let me back up a second.
By the way, this concept of me being a crackpot because of this AIDS being created in the lab, I'm not the only one that believes this is a possibility, but the New York Times itself, in the 80s, said this.
I remember reading it.
Oh, really?
The Times itself wrote this?
Yeah.
Oh.
Well, first of all, I'm not calling you out of some crackpot.
I'm just saying that in general, if you went to a party with all your reporter friends and you said, well, this looks man-made just like AIDS to kill off Africans, I have a feeling you may get some strange looks.
You know...
Less than you'd think.
You have cool friends, obviously.
That's not true.
I don't have any friends.
I have friends, but cool.
I can't find this report.
It was a video I did not clip.
I didn't think we'd be talking about it today, but the context was they're doing, and maybe it was from New York, It was some health official and they were seeing how many, in classrooms, how many girls, they didn't even say girls and boys, which of course you should give it to your boy because, you know, he's going to get ass cancer or throat cancer or something because of the HPV and his incredibly horrible ways.
I know I can find this clip.
I'm sorry.
Actually, I think it's worth just two seconds of me looking for this video because it was disturbing to hear what the conclusion was as to why only half of children have received this Gardasil HPV vaccine.
And I have it here.
Can you play a little harmonica?
I could use a little harmonica at this point.
This would really be helpful.
Yeah, yeah, this is... .
Yeah, this is not going very well.
Okay.
Anyway, so the answer is...
Or the big payoff of this piece is this official says the reason why only 50%...
He says unanimously...
The 50% of the girls who had not had the shot was because their fathers didn't want them to have it.
Apparently the fathers then think if they get this shot that they will then immediately want to start having sexual relations because you're protected.
Which is such a double crazy ass message.
A triple really.
It's a triple whammy.
One, men suck.
Well, and it also has a subtext.
Yes, which is, it's okay, go screw around because this is safe.
No, no, the subtext is nutball Christians.
Well, yes.
That's the subtext.
That, yes.
They just don't want to say it.
Yes.
Well, it's only these Christian nutballs.
Who else would not want their kid to have sex but a Christian?
Yes.
I got a note, which it disturbed me somewhat, because it was about you, really.
And of course, whenever it's about you, they email me.
Yeah.
Antonia.
Antonia, one of our listeners.
Antonia?
Yes, Antonia.
Dear Adam and John, my smart, wonderful boyfriend, who has been a monthly No Agenda donor for a couple years ago, alerted me to your best podcast in the universe several months ago, and I've abandoned This American Life and TED Talks to listen to No Agenda religiously ever since.
I think I got a copy of this.
As an adjunct professor, and pro-hooker, pro-blow, and an ex-stripper, respectively.
She's a stripper professor?
I didn't get this note.
No, I just...
And I got the pictures.
She is an adjunct professor in media, I believe.
In media?
Media something.
Media studies.
As an adjunct professor and pro-hooker, pro-blow, and ex-stripper, respectively.
Pro-hooker?
Yes, she's pro-hooker, pro-blow, and ex-stripper, respectively.
Ex-stripper, okay.
She stripped her way through college.
This is actually not unusual.
And we encourage this behavior.
If necessary.
Who teaches media writing?
There you go.
I value your cultural analysis and humor.
One of the things I love about you guys, particularly the dear bright John C. Dvorak.
Yeah.
However, John, your desperation to be a more refined Howard Stern is turning you into a sexist douchebag par excellence lately, especially in episode 648 and in 649.
Okay.
Although I am used to Adam being a tad chauvinistic, the huge disappointment came when John fell for it.
He never does that.
Well, listen.
I'm listening.
Traditionally, John shows self-restraint.
I do.
See how Midnight Cowboy would sound great under this?
It would.
Yeah.
He is not trying so hard to be cute.
I guess that means like I am.
Yes.
So he never goes for sexual innuendo.
Pfft.
But this last show, he was a total misogynist.
He accused women of blowing dudes for gigs as if they have no other way to become successful if they are beautiful.
And now you are both on the boring, pedestrian, sexist same page.
Please refrain from being pigs in human clothing.
We women are counting on you and we are listening.
Respect your lady listeners.
So, I made some reference to...
I think some person that I believe may be incompetent and could not have made her way to her position in life without giving away sexual favors.
But apparently she was beautiful and therefore your assumption was that she could only advance herself professionally or in the class society.
I think that was a misunderstanding.
I don't remember exactly what it was.
Seriously, I think it was a misunderstanding.
There's plenty of smart, beautiful women.
You know, to put enough makeup on.
Don't send it to John at Curry.com.
Not Adam at Curry.com.
John at Curry.com.
But I find it so interesting.
Never do I get an email saying, hey man, you really should stop saying horrible things about how John Kerry looks with his big watermelon head, man.
That he's so dumb that he can only make it through his money and through his family connections.
Or, I don't think we've ever said, I've gotten an email ever about anyone who's cute and beautiful, male or female.
It's kind of one-sided, you know?
Yeah, no, it's very sexist on her part to bring this up.
I find it to be somewhat sexist.
It's incredibly sexist.
Whereas the real outrage, the real outrage that I have is, and it's an area that is a great discomfort for me because I know nothing about it, but I was paying attention to this Michael Sam being cut from the Broncos, whatever team he was with, and immediately the gay sports press Which is the Out Sports Observer or something.
We're saying...
The gay sports press is pretty much most of the sports press.
Ah, bingo, boom, shakalaka!
Saying, well, if Michael Sam doesn't get picked up by another team, we'll know it's homophobia.
And this was...
That was...
That was so insulted.
You want to talk about horrible insults, but now listen to the NFL. On ESPN, it's all paid for...
It's all the NFL. Here's what they say about this situation, which has, you know, now we have Michael Sam has been picked up to play on a training team for the Dallas Cowboys.
By itself, just hilarious that the big, red, homophobic, redneck, gun-toting killed the faggot state of Texas.
Woo-hoo!
I can't believe we hired one of them.
On this kickoff weekend, we turn now to Peter King and Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio, guys.
Dan, when the Rams waived Michael Sam, the first openly gay player trying to make an NFL roster, he was unemployed for two days.
During that time, a league official contacted multiple teams asking if they had evaluated Sam as a possible practice squad player.
Now Sam and the NFL avoided a nightmare situation when he signed with the practice squad of the Dallas Cowboys on Wednesday, Mike.
And what could that nightmare situation be?
He didn't get a job.
No.
The NFL avoided a nightmare situation.
Not him.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, to them, a nightmare situation is adverse publicity, and to say that the league is homophobic, or the league is this, or the league is that.
I mean, Michael Sand may not be that good, is probably...
If some guy...
I mean, let's go and...
I hate to even bring this up, but we had a guy that was...
The defensive end for the San Francisco 49ers named Charles Haley.
And Charles Haley was a nightmare situation in himself.
One of the greatest defensive ends to ever play.
He ended up going to Dallas and he took them to a Super Bowl.
He used to masturbate in the team meetings and do all sorts of things like this.
And he was just so disgusting a person that they had to...
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
He would masturbate in the meeting?
Like in the meeting room with the conference station?
Yes.
Yes.
And he was this massive guy that could beat the shit out of anybody.
And just a very strange person.
Yeah, this was discussed by a number of ex-players.
They used to say, geez, this guy, no one knew what to do.
It was like the millennials that don't know what to do when somebody cuts in line.
You don't know what to do when you have this massive superstar player that's exposing himself constantly in team meetings because you just don't know what to do.
I know what I do.
This is a sex crime, is what I'd say.
You are now committing a sex crime.
It just didn't work out.
That's what they did.
And they traded him to what team?
The Dallas Cowboys.
Oh, okay.
It just seems to me that the Dallas Cowboys pick up a lot of guys that are...
They pick up a lot of gay guys.
Do you really want to phrase it that way?
No, I don't want to phrase it that way.
But I can say it don't fit in.
I don't think that Haley was anything but just weird.
But, I don't know.
It's just...
Really weird?
Thank you.
Thank you.
I appreciate that, actually.
Well, I'm glad you brought this up because this does play into, you brought up the fap, fap, fap, fap, fap, fap, fap.
I'm reading articles about the fappening and how this is now being turned into the war on men and how the act of...
Downloading and publishing these pictures is an act of violence towards women.
Oh, these phony pictures?
Is that back?
Okay.
Well, I'm telling you what I'm feeling out there in the land.
And I have a quote here that was...
It's really disturbing how this is being picked up.
That this is...
Because this was a sex crime...
Here it is.
It's a sex crime.
No, this is being called a sex...
Women like Lena Dunham, who produces girls and...
Yeah, it's an out lesbian.
It doesn't matter, but they're calling this particular...
No, no.
If it's a war against men and it's an out lesbian, I think it matters to know this.
Okay.
Oh, yes.
It was your premise.
I didn't even know she was a lesbian.
Yeah.
So they are now saying, because this is a sex crime, and it's a sex crime against your will, it is being equated to rape.
Yeah, this would be typical.
And I find this wholly disturbing.
Let's see, take a selfie of yourself naked.
Not a particular, you know, you have some butt plug one.
I never saw that picture.
Well, I have a search.
Yeah, I know.
You have sources different than mine.
Buttplug.com or something.
I'm not sure what it was.
No, no, no.
Whatever the case, most of these pictures, the Jennifer Lawrence pictures were good examples.
She's just sitting there doing nothing.
And it's not even a good, there's nothing pornographic about any of the pictures of her that I saw.
Thank you.
And I don't see a word that this equates to anything but publicity stunt.
Well, but I think it's very obvious where this is going to go.
Now that this is being deemed, and I'm sure someone somewhere will actually put in legislation and say this is a sex crime.
They're equating it to the revenge porn.
And even though it's just publishing, and there are certain rules for what you can and cannot do, this is going to be unlawful content or unlawful network traffic.
Absolutely.
It's all part of the giant scheme to censor free speech.
As far as I'm concerned, it's free speech.
I agree.
The fact that women do this is free speech.
You can look at property laws, but...
There's a lot to be said who owns the photograph and how that is being monetized and the legality of that, which, by the way, the mainstream has very little regard for.
It's not like they're showing YouTube videos and sending a check to the so-called rebels in Ukraine.
Thanks for letting us use that.
But they may be sending a check to YouTube.
I don't know.
Who knows what those guys are doing?
I think this is the biggest example of a mountain out of a molehill, these photos.
I don't think they were a big deal.
I don't care about these.
About half of them I never heard of.
But you can say that about most of the 10 worst dressed women at the Oscars.
And then you look at, two or three of them, you never, who are these people?
And I just couldn't get into the story.
I'm not into the story.
I know, but I'm wondering why everybody is so fascinated by it.
Because I believe that if you looked at everybody's cell phone, I believe pretty much every woman, and I'm going to say this very specifically.
This is the letter to Adam.
This is right.
This is a predominantly female affliction, and I am going so far as to say it is a psychological issue which could be a dis-ease.
And you can see it, the combination of social media, predominantly Facebook, but you can link your Instagram, which is Facebook, too.
That, with smartphones, with camera capability, And a social network with feedback, which you click on like and then your phone goes bling because you've seen the likes.
I sent you an article.
I don't know if you had time to read that this morning.
It's called Patricia's Smartphone.
I don't know if you saw that.
No, I did not.
It's a...
It's a fiction, a little story about a girl and her smartphone and her weekend with her friends.
And it's very correct.
It's very true to a crazy degree of how women in particular are being, I think, zombified into a state of suspended reality.
Kate Bush, who I interviewed when I was 19.
God, did I love Kate Bush when I was 19.
And there's even videos still on YouTube, and I think she was 22.
This is the time of Wuthering Heights, and she had done...
She was sexy, man.
What an awesome chick that was.
And I was like a penis in a bad-fitting suit interviewing her.
And she is now back out on tour, so I was interested in reading.
She says, please, when you come to my show, do not use your smartphone.
And if you look at...
We've had the big summer festivals and concerts, and you look at the audience, the audience is witnessing the actual live show through their screen of their phone.
Right.
A lot of people have noticed this.
I mean, I think...
Most people have noticed this.
In fact, there was a Louis C.K.'s current act floating around on Showtime discusses that you go to a recital of your daughter dancing on the stage and you look around you and everybody's watching the recital on the smartphone as they take a movie of it that nobody will ever play.
Your daughter's right there in high definition.
Why aren't you watching her?
It's like everyone's Steven Spielberg all of a sudden.
George Lucas.
Yeah, what is this?
This is an illness.
Now, that part is across the board, male and female.
But this selfie, I walked down the street, and I walked past McDonald's, and a couple of girls came, maybe early high school, I don't know, late.
These teenagers, and they come up, and then there's three or four of them, and I hear, hold on, selfie!
And I see people walking down like, hold on, selfie!
It's a sickness, and it's girls.
It is a sickness.
But I'm concerned.
And so, for all of the flack that we're taking, when we come across as misogynists, which we're not, we work with women, well, not anymore.
You know, we had to fire them all.
We've worked with many women.
We have promoted women.
You and I specifically, for no monetary gain, have helped women along in their careers.
But we do the same for dudes.
No.
John, come on!
You're right.
Probably not.
Yeah.
I really enjoy...
I work best with women in anything I do.
This is such a...
This is such an exception that I can...
I don't get along with you, actually.
We just do a show.
We do a funny show.
For some reason, it works out.
Great comedy show.
But I work with women.
And so when I see this, it hurts me.
And I identify what is happening.
And it is mostly with female human beings.
And I don't know exactly why it's them.
This is something that I would like to find out.
Why is it mainly women...
Well, the self-image issue that women have, because they're forced into this situation.
Good point.
Stop, you got it.
You got it.
I'm looking around the place here, and I'm looking at the magazines, Harper's Bazaar, the beautiful magazines.
But wow, is it unrealistic how these women look.
Yeah, there's your illness.
There it is.
And this has been building up.
And by the men, by the way.
And you!
Send pics.
Send photos.
Send photos.
You're the one that's doing this all the time.
Who is the producer that sent a note in complaining about me trying to be a cheap version of Howard Stern?
What's her name?
Do you want me to out her?
No, I just want to know.
Okay, you didn't say her.
Antonia.
Antonia, yeah.
Yeah, she should be writing you notes.
Why is she complaining about me?
I don't even know what I did wrong.
Because...
Because that's the problem with bullshit.
They don't know what they did wrong.
Ah, yeah.
There you go.
We don't even know we did wrong.
Is something wrong, honey?
Yeah.
You don't know?
Okay.
Oh yes, John, this is our problem.
We don't know what we did wrong or what is wrong.
We are stupid.
Now, I think that we managed to get off to Michael Sam's thing, which I think is a positive segue because that's a dead end discussion.
What's going on in the National Football League?
It's a corrupt operation.
The guys are getting injured with head injuries, and now we're starting to see movies and positive public relations.
There's a number of stories coming out about how great football is for the young male.
It makes him feel like he's part of...
Wouldn't it otherwise be on the street robbing old people?
It's not good.
All this kind of publicity, trying to get away from the fact that this game, because of the nature of steroids and everything that's part of the game, has created head injuries that are unbelievable.
Half the players, not all of them, of course, a lot of them get through it without a problem, but a lot of players are lame-brained after they've played a few years in the NFL. And to college, same thing.
Boy, I'm sorry I brought it up.
Yes, you should be.
Okay, I have two topics then at the top here, and then we'll move into something else.
One, I have discovered another Tourette superpower that I have.
Now let me step back and say that the No Agenda Tourette's Club is a very serious deal.
We are discovering what our tics are.
And my tics have been pretty good.
How many members are in this club?
Four.
And we have honorary member Tim Howard from the USS... There's got to be more than four Tourette's sufferers that listen to the No Agenda show.
Hello, excuse me.
We do not like to be known as Tourette's sufferers.
We like to think of ourselves as Tourette's benefactors, yes?
Okay, there must be more than a few lucky Tourette's owners.
Yes.
And in this, me as an owner of Tourette's, I have discovered another superpower.
As you know, I can snatch things out of mid-air as they're falling off tables.
I have an uncanny ability to remember certain sequences of numbers, not names, numbers.
And I can look at a spreadsheet and find, or at vast pieces of information like a neural network, I can hone in on something that is different, odd, or interesting.
From any perspective, I just have this ability.
It's what I do with legislation.
I can do it with financial spreadsheets.
But now, add to this list.
Okay.
I can do remote viewing.
Oh, brother.
Yep.
Now, I want you to know that I specifically say remote viewing.
As opposed to what?
Remote viewing.
Wait a minute.
Here it comes.
Let me explain.
Mickey called me yesterday.
I was out.
And she says, okay, how do I get the TV and the cable box to work?
And we're staying at a place that has a system that we're not familiar with.
And I had a little background music.
It's really not working for me right now.
Okay, keep going.
Because it means you're not listening.
I'm listening.
That's why I'm changing the tones.
You were remote viewing.
No, no, no.
She's saying, oh, this cable box, I can't figure it out.
I can't figure out how to push the buttons.
And then you visualized it somehow.
You saw her finger headed to the wrong button.
You said, stop, stop, stop.
So here's my, I am able to, when it's specifically about remote controls, I can do this.
And I knew that there were three remotes on the couch.
I was seeing the remotes before me.
So I can't view a street scene, but I can view remotes.
You just saw them a few minutes earlier.
No, I haven't touched this remote once two weeks ago.
I haven't had the TV on.
And I was able to help her get it going in a matter of minutes.
I'm telling you, this is one of my superpowers.
Alright, well then tell me what I did with the printout I just made.
No, it's not a remote control.
I'm only good at remotes.
But I'm not good at...
Oh, I get it.
Remote viewing now.
It's fun.
No, it's fact.
Yeah.
I can do this.
It's like...
Okay, fantastic.
If anybody has a problem out there that you lost one of your remotes, you know, fell behind the couch...
Call John and he'll play the harmonica while you look for it.
That's what you need to do, people.
Okay.
It was an observation.
I'm putting it on the list.
It's just an observation.
And here's the BBC. I've been watching a lot of BBC. I've been trying to...
The television in the Netherlands, Miss Mickey and I, agree universally.
It looks like you're watching East Bloc shit.
It's horrible.
Eastern European.
Yeah, but like in the 80s, if you would ever see it.
It's that bad.
You're talking about the productions made in Holland?
Yeah.
Yeah, just the, in general, the tell of the news.
The sleazy, low-end crap look?
It's not even, it's not, it's high-def, and it's got all the bells and whistles, but for some reason, it's just not slick, it's stiff, it's awkward.
Did you see, I don't want to change the topic, but since you changed it, Did you see the NATO press conference?
Yes.
Well, this is a lot of what I've been watching.
Yes.
Let me get into the BBC's view of the world for a moment.
This will kind of explain how the citizenry of the EU's are being tortured by their government and associated media partners.
It's been a summer of blood, as bad as anything in recent times.
I mean, it was the worst of times.
It was the best of times.
It's been a summer of blood?
It's been a summer of blood.
Summer of blood?
The BBC. This is the summer of blood.
That's a good title for show.
It's been a summer of blood, as bad as anything in recent times.
Parts of Gaza City now look like Berlin in 1945.
Journalists have been murdered gruesomely on camera simply for being American.
Innocent Iraqis have been targeted for not being Muslims.
New and ultra-violent groups have blazed their way across the region.
Quiet towns have been destroyed, and the inhabitants murdered or enslaved.
A commercial airliner was blasted out of the sky by a rogue missile, and everybody on board was killed.
Over the summer, it really has looked as though a new world disorder is establishing itself.
And the report goes on for ten minutes after that.
A new world disorder, I say.
The summer of blood.
Coming to a theater near you.
So I'm watching this NATO press conference.
I want to ask one quick question of you.
What is OTAN? NATO spelled backwards.
I've wondered that, too.
Is that because when you take a selfie?
I don't know.
If you take a selfie in the mirror...
I know.
It's like for little kids.
That's what they would call it.
I believe that it is...
You know, I really don't know.
So I'm watching this thing, and it was very well, especially on here, I don't know what feeds they gave you, but it was extremely well produced.
The press conference was incredibly scripted, and it was well lit.
It was lit like a Law and Order, or like a NCIS, or actually better, it was more, no, I think it was like CIS. It was lit like a CIS show where they go into the offices and everything has got spotlights and eye lights.
I saw OTAN, by the way, John, that's the French way.
Organization Transvestivelle, something like that.
Yeah, okay.
But it's also a neurological trick, I believe.
I believe so, too.
When I saw it, I said, it's just like your head cocks and you kind of...
You shake a little bit.
Yeah, I think it's something.
Okay, so I'm watching this.
It's very well produced.
And the lighting on the press conference was like...
This was like high...
Well, they were even calling out the right press people at the right time, and the key light was on them.
I saw that, too.
I saw it.
Exactly.
They call out somebody.
The camera was already positioned right on them.
They had the microphone in their hands.
They were lit...
Beautifully.
I've never seen anything so spectacular.
What I forgot to evaluate, were the journalists wearing makeup?
I couldn't tell.
I thought about it.
The women were.
But I didn't notice.
Well, yeah.
Which would not surprise me.
Now, the other thing that I thought was peculiar was that when they pulled back from the whole shot and you had this darkened room and the lit podium, there was like a fence between the reporters and the stage.
Yeah, it was like a roadhouse, like a Texas roadhouse, so you don't throw beer at the performers.
Yeah.
No, you know what it was?
It was the same kind of fencing they used at TSA. Oh.
Those little things you pull and they lock together.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
They had a whole TSA, like a whole line between the press conference people and the stage.
Why?
Why?
Are they going to charge the thing?
This thing wouldn't stop anyone from doing anything, by the way.
Shut up, slave!
Just stay in your place, slave.
Don't move anywhere.
Just wait until you're called upon, slave.
Something like that, perhaps?
I would have to assume that's the reason, because I can't think of anything else.
But I just found the whole thing to be so staged.
And so I have one clip, which is the New York Times reporter...
It was called on.
Beautiful blue background and deep blue.
You can see a camera guy fooling around back there in kind of that Y style where it's fuzzy.
It's like a lot of bouquet.
You know, all the right things you'd want.
Yeah, I know.
It was perfect.
I noticed it.
I noticed it.
It's perfect.
Yeah, I was just going, ooh, man.
These guys are just...
Somebody's doing their job.
So let's take a listen to...
This may be the same question that I clipped, actually, and answer.
It was probably the same one.
Scripted question for Obama, is that the one?
Yeah.
Let's play it.
Let's see what it is.
Julie Davis.
Stop.
Now, I had to mention something, and you must have noticed this too.
With all the slick lighting, the beautiful staging and everything, they've got a line buzz.
There's a ground loop somewhere.
It's a ground loop on Obama.
It's because of the electronics in his head.
Who knows what's going on there?
I think, by the way, I think the real problem they were having is they had Obama over-miked.
And when you listen to this scripted question, you can hear Obama going, uh-huh, yeah.
But he's...
I have to disagree.
He's miked wirelessly.
And there were also two desktop mics so he could read the prompter so he can go from left to right.
But I think I remember a lot of, and regardless, a ground loop is a ground loop.
There's just no reason for this other than that there's an incompatibility that it is also our lectern.
It's possible that we bring our lectern in that he speaks from and our audio about.
If I were the president, I'd have my own audio, guys.
Believe me.
Everything.
I'm not going to leave that up.
This audio guy sucks then.
Yeah, so maybe, who knows?
But you can still hear Obama mumbling.
Yeah, he's mumbling.
Yeah, it was weird.
Anyway, play it and you can hear the ground loop.
It was not weird.
Thank you.
And also, you talked about the importance of expertise on the ground and building up capacity on the ground.
Do you think, since airstrikes are not going to do it here...
I have a different question, by the way, which is good.
Ultimately, action is needed in Syria.
Can you realistically expect the Free Syrian Army to do what's needed on the ground to really destroy, not just push back ISIL? You can't contain an organization that is running roughshod through that much territory.
Roughshot.
Definition?
Like berserk?
Etymology?
Etymology of roughshod?
I think it goes back to some cowboy term.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So they're a bunch of cowboys.
Exactly.
Running roughshod.
Do you mind if I... Do you mind if we just take a moment?
Roughshod.
Rough shod.
Shot.
No, it's rough shot.
No, it's rough shod.
Rough shod?
Yeah, with a D. Really?
Yes.
I'm glad I took a moment.
Rough shod is one word.
Having shoes with nails, heads...
Hold on a second.
Rough shod...
This is interesting.
It's an adjective of a horse having shoes with nail heads projecting to prevent slipping.
Rough shot.
I think he says rough shot.
No, he doesn't say it.
He can't.
Nobody would use that word.
I would.
I thought it was rough shot.
I've always thought it was rough shot.
With a T. It's always been rough shot.
Like rough shot.
I mean rough shot.
Rough shot.
Without thinking or caring about the opinions, rights, or feelings of others.
Marked by tyrannical force is another definition.
John, I'm telling you, I always thought it was rough shot, two words, second word, and in a T. I'm sorry.
How dumb am I? Why should you be apologizing?
I'm apologizing.
This is an outrage.
This is not an outrage.
I think he's saying rough shot with a T. You realistically expect the Free Syrian Army to do what's needed on the ground to really destroy and not just push back ISIL. Mm-hmm.
You can't contain an organization that is running roughshod through that much territory, causing that much havoc, displacing that many people.
Killing that many innocents.
Here we go.
Enslaving.
What?
Yeah.
Are you enslaving that many women?
The goal has to be to dismantle them.
And why do they only enslave women?
Are they better?
Are they stronger than the men?
This is not a good version of slavery.
No, this is innuendo, obviously, because our civilization at this point, enslaving women, generally refers to sex slaves.
Yes, whereas the good slaves that we had were men who were strong and could build things and drag things and could take a beating.
Yeah, right, and keep on eating.
No, but it is all innuendo, and it is...
Fantastic to be able to document this.
And I think we're probably the only people in the universe even listening to what is being said.
I think...
That might be true.
That might actually be true.
That's the reason we have people that...
Listen to our show, because I think the public's hungry to hear at least an honest discussion of what's going on around them that points these things out.
And if you look at what happened with Al-Qaeda in the Fatah, where their primary base was, you initially push them back.
You systematically degrade their kids.
I know.
I didn't even want to stop it, but I know exactly what you're going to say.
Why didn't we push them back?
No, no, that's not what I was going to say.
Was this dodgeball?
No, play this back.
He says that Al-Qaeda was primarily in al-Fatah.
What the hell is he talking about?
What is al-Fatah?
Well, you can look it up.
It's a political party.
What about Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula?
In the Fatah.
He says the Fatah.
He says the Fatah.
The Fatah.
No, he said Fatah.
F-A-T-E-H or F-A-T-A-H. That's the party.
That's the Fatah party.
Let's listen again.
If you look at what happened with Al-Qaeda in the Fatah, where their primary base was...
How was their base there?
How was their base in a political party in the Palestinian political party?
How was their base in the Fatah?
I'm asking you.
Excuse me.
Am I his speechwriter?
I'm Googling.
I'm trying to figure it out.
You're making me nervous.
I'm listening to this and he says that and I go to myself.
John, this is without a doubt.
I mean, like, seriously, just, just, this is, did he mean this?
I don't know what he meant, but nobody said anything.
They didn't say it in the media, they didn't say it at this press conference, he just says this, and everyone goes, yeah, right, boss.
So the Fatah, if people don't know, the Fatah is the, formerly the Palestinian National Liberation Movement, So he is now saying that the Al-Qaeda grew out of...
It was their primary political base.
Play that whole thing again and then carefully listen to what he says.
And he said, that's how we got them or something.
I don't even know what...
It's just nonsense.
He's like just babbling.
I'll play it back even more.
This is very, very interesting.
...to be to dismantle them.
I think I should go back more.
Sorry, this is just too good.
Killing that many innocents, enslaving that many women, the goal has to be to dismantle them.
And if you look at what happened with al-Qaeda in the Fatah, where their primary base was, You initially push them back.
You systematically degrade their capabilities.
You narrow their scope of action.
You slowly shrink the space, the territory that they may control.
You take out their leadership.
Do you think maybe he meant Fallujah?
Well, he didn't say...
He obviously said Fata.
Yes.
With a hard T. And I don't think Fallujah was their base, was it?
Fallujah was a big...
Let's see if it's...
Let's see what the Book of Knowledge says.
If the Book of Knowledge considers Fallujah to be the original city...
Of course, this is in Iraq.
It's a city.
You got that much?
A variety of sources reported the city was controlled by Al-Qaeda and its affiliate, ISIS, which I'm sure that's a new reference.
You can't trust this Wikipedia crap.
People add into it every day.
This is changing before my very eyes, this thing.
You know, I have no idea.
I have no idea.
Okay, well, here's the problem with that.
It's an Iraqi city.
Yes.
We know for a fact that it had nothing to do with Iraq ever until we made it have something to do with it and we said it had something to do with it, but that was all nonsense.
It was just to get the public on board with attacking the place.
So that can't be it.
So, no, I don't know what he's talking about.
And I'm stunned that nobody picked this up.
Well, it's a scripted news conference.
These women, all they're doing, the women who are asking these questions, they're just concerned about their key light.
They don't stumble over the question, the three questions they each ask.
This woman from the New York Times, that's all she did was stumble.
I got the woman from the AP, who was the first one he called.
The other one I have is the woman from the Wall Street Journal, but I actually don't remember the AP woman, so play that clip.
Do you notice that it's all women who are asking the questions here?
Well, they probably were the ones that went to the briefing.
With respect to the ceasefire agreement, obviously we are...
This is about, she asked about the ceasefire agreement between Russia and Ukraine, which you put in the newsletter, and this is why I'm leading into it, and the president answered this question about the ceasefire and how he felt about it and how long it would last.
With respect to the ceasefire agreement, obviously we are hopeful, but based on past experience also skeptical that in fact the separatists will follow through and the Russians will stop violating Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity.
So it has to be tested.
And I know that the Europeans are discussing, at this point, the final shape of their sanctions measures.
It's my view that if you look at President Poroshenko's plan, it is going to take some time to implement.
And as a consequence, for us to move forward based on what is currently happening on the ground with sanctions, While acknowledging that if, in fact, If the elements of the plan that has been signed are implemented, then those sanctions could be lifted, is a more likely way for us to ensure that there's follow-through.
Now, here it comes.
But that's something that, obviously, we'll consult closely with our European partners.
He stumbled through that, but I thought it was very interesting what he was trying to say.
You know, well, maybe we'll figure out if something happens that maybe they can turn him back, but I don't really know what I'm saying is what he was saying.
Did you hear him stumble through that?
He stumbled through all the answers in this because he didn't I don't know why.
I think they, once in a while, he thinks he can actually ad-lib these things.
And it would look a little suspicious to be reading the answers from a press conference off a prompter.
Well, here was the scripted part, which is just so incredibly untrue.
Well, before you go there, I want to mention something.
He says the ceasefire has to be tested.
What does that mean?
It means you've got to fire and see if anyone fires back.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
...to determine.
I do want to point out, though...
Let me be clear.
I want to point it out.
Pay attention to me.
Here comes a lie.
...that the only reason that we're seeing...
The only reason...
...this ceasefire at this moment is because of both the sanctions that have already been applied and the threat of further sanctions, which are having a real impact on the Russian economy...
Okay, so he is saying the only reason there's a ceasefire is because of the sanctions that apparently the United States sanctions have been levied upon Russia, and they're so desperate, so desperate at this point to negotiate their way out, they've called for a ceasefire because it's killing Russia!
And have isolated Russia in a way that we have not seen in a very long time.
Oh, yes.
The path for Russia...
To rejoin the community of nations that respects international law is still there.
The chatroom is suggesting he said intifada.
It didn't sound like it to me.
Well, even if they said intifada, it doesn't make any sense.
No.
It's not a country.
No.
It's not an area.
It's not something where you could, you know, start to pick them off.
Intifada is a movement.
There's no country called Intifada.
What is the chatroom talking about?
They're just trying to be helpful.
Okay, I'm sorry.
I'll stop looking.
It just irks me to listen to him say something so stupid.
And then no one to say anything.
Well, of course.
And then no one, oh, okay, whatever.
Oh, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
All right, so that's what we did with Al-Qaeda?
Okay, we can do that again, uh-huh.
So this NATO business, which is...
I'm sorry?
You get the same sense that Porochenko is like constantly, we ever see this guy that's the head of the new president, el presidente of the Ukraine, he just seems like a nervous Nelly.
Like, he expects to be assassinated any second.
Oh, yeah.
You notice this when you see this guy?
He is like visibly shaken.
If he walked down the street, he may have Parkinson's.
No.
If you walked down the street, I would not, and then bumped into him, I would not notice.
I know Yats, Yatsenyuk, I'd say, hey, aren't you the guy who played for Spargo in the 70s?
Okay, so I want to stick for a moment with the EU and with NATO. Then I think we should circle back around to ISIS. There's definitely stuff to talk about.
Well, before you circle back around, I do have a couple of clips from our buddy, Professor Cohen, exactly about this topic.
About ISIS or about Ukraine?
About the NATO, about the Ukraine, about this and about that.
Bring it on.
We'll take a break after EU and Russia.
Well, let's try...
What are the ones I have here?
My printout, I screwed up.
I lost the printout.
Let's go on.
Cohen on...
Let's start with this one.
Let's do these two.
Cohen on the Ukraine Civil War.
It says on Ukraine.
It's been the pro-Russian separatists who are encouraged by Russia, financed by Russia, trained by Russia, supplied by Russia, and armed by Russia.
And the Russian forces that have now moved into Ukraine are not on a humanitarian or peacekeeping mission.
They are Russian combat forces with Russian weapons in Russian tanks.
The professor sounds a lot like Obama these days.
That was the lead-in.
That's President Obama, Professor Stephen Cullen.
It certainly is Professor Obama, President Obama.
Here's the underlying problem.
What Obama just said implies, if not asserts, that if it wasn't for Russia, Ukraine would be stable.
Russia has destabilized Ukraine.
No serious person would believe that to be the case.
Ukraine is in the throes of a civil war, which was precipitated by the political crisis that occurred in Ukraine last November and then this February, when the elected president of Ukraine was overthrown by a street mob, and that set off a civil war primarily between the West, including Kiev, and the East.
But not only, there's a central Ukraine that's here and there.
The civil war then became, as I said it would or might when we first started talking earlier this year, a proxy war between the United States and Russia.
Now it's absolutely true that Russia has made the destabilization of Ukraine worse.
It's also absolutely true that the United States has contributed to the destabilization of Ukraine.
But if tomorrow the United States would go away and Russia would go away, Ukraine would still be in a civil war.
And we know what civil wars are.
We had one in our country.
Russia had one.
There were many civil wars around the world in the 20th century and elsewhere today.
The point is the only way you can end the civil war, either one side completely conquers And the other side gives up, as happened with the Confederacy in the United States.
Or there's a stalemate, or somebody says enough killing, because these are brothers and sisters and mothers and fathers, they're part of the same family, and you negotiate.
So we will see later today, perhaps, or tomorrow, whether this ceasefire comes, and if it holds.
Now, negotiating a civil war is terribly complex.
Okay.
And I think that's accurate.
Yeah, of course it's a civil war.
And then he has this nice little commentary on democracy in Ukraine based on Obama's commentaries.
And in this case, the government in Kiev is trying to conquer where the rebels, so to speak, are located.
The problem is that the rebel provinces do not recognize the legitimacy of the government in Kiev.
The United States recognizes the legitimacy, but that doesn't make it legitimate.
Now, let's go to what's going on in Kiev now.
I mean, Obama also said, and I kind of chuckled and cried, that we're helping Ukraine build a democracy.
What kind of democracy is unfolding in Kyiv?
They had a presidential election.
About a fifth of the country couldn't vote.
Now, Poroshenko has called a parliamentary election in October, a month from now.
But where the war is in the South and the East, they won't vote.
So you're going to end up with a rump country, further dividing the country.
Meanwhile, they're shutting down democracy in Kyiv.
Communist Party is being banned.
Another party that represents the East is being banned.
People are being arrested.
There's censorship kicking in.
There's no democracy in Kiev because it's a wartime government.
You don't get democracy.
So these assertions by the United States that we're democracy builders, we're virtuous, and it's all Putin's fault, it's worse than a half-truth.
It's actually a falsehood.
Why do they allow this man to speak like this on mainstream television?
Why?
There's got to be a reason.
You know, this is a question that I wonder myself, and in fact, I think that he's, they figure he has a message that is, we've heard him before, it essentially says the same thing.
He is, he's also highly criticized.
I think they believe it is a part of their war and peace report, I think it's part of their belief that democracy now folks believe that they're the peace, you know, representatives of peace, peace in the world, and this guy promotes peace.
Hmm.
Now, there is another clip that we'll play after the break, which does have something to do with Ukraine.
It talks about the Malaysian airline thing, and this was off-script.
And when this went off-script, it made Amy very nervous.
All right, so stop with the setup.
Stop with the setup.
I want to do that after we take a break.
I do want to play a little bit of humor.
You totally hijacked my flow.
Yes.
With a guy who talks like this.
I didn't like the micing on it.
It's very bad.
This is the Matt and Marie show.
Come on.
We need a jingle.
The Matt and Marie show.
Marie Harf, spokeshole for the United States.
Matt Diplo AP. At Matt Diplo AP. Matt, Matt, Matt, what's his last name?
Matt, the AP writer, Matt.
Who always is fun.
And he questioned the Rapid Defense Force of NATO, which, as you know, is one of the big things.
They put together a rapid-to-force fence, and they're connecting all their wires and digits and jogblets and gooblies and widgets.
And this, of course, is going to cost billions of dollars.
And everybody has to ante up.
4,000 people.
Yeah.
Everybody has to ante up their 2% of GDP, which people are talking about this here in the Netherlands.
The Netherlands has about 1% GDP for war financing.
Whether it's NATO or whether they do it internally is irrelevant, I think.
It's not like they write a big check.
Yeah, they'll write a check to Raytheon, or Boeing, or Airbus maybe, but probably more likely Boeing.
Airbus, yes, we need to go to 2%.
Bankrupting the country more on stupid war stuff to kill brown people in the sand.
But anyway, so he says, isn't that kind of aggressive?
How can you say that this is an aggressive move to be talking about getting together?
Would you stomp on us?
We'll kill you.
Article 5?
And so Matt asks Marie and says, hey, isn't this a little aggressive?
Everything that we have done with NATO since Russia's intervention into Ukraine has been a defensive measure to be able to protect Wait for it.
Wait for it.
Those are just categorically different things, Matt, and you're buying into the Russian propaganda if you appoint them.
By the way, for anyone to say that to any journalist is very insulting.
Oh, it's totally insulting, and it really would make a guy like him mad.
Well, he is like me, and he laughs at her, which is kind of weird.
Those are just categorically different things, Matt, and you're buying into the Russian propaganda if you equate them, quite frankly.
Well, no.
Well, you are, actually, I think.
The tone of the question does.
Well, but you say our countries.
NATO. Yeah, and Ukraine is not a NATO member.
I understand that.
So the point of my question is, why is it that you can't see, or why do you reject out of hand the Russian complaint that this is the creation of a Russian reaction force?
Because there's nothing offensive about a rapid reaction force.
It's a defensive tool.
How can that be threatening to Russia?
How can a defensive tool be threatening to Russia?
Not necessarily threatening to Russia, but provocative.
That's the point.
I'm not buying into anyone's propaganda.
I think that's the whole point.
I actually think the point of your questions on these exercises has been a little bit.
I think there's absolutely no equivalence between countries taking steps to protect themselves, their partners, and their territory against someone who is sending arms and troops and men over the border into another country.
They're wholly different things.
No one's going to sit by and not stand up for our principles and say, go ahead, Russia.
Right.
We're not going to take any steps to protect ourselves.
You guys object to other countries' objections about your military exercises all the time.
And you think that they're perfectly legitimate.
I love those two.
I hope they're screwing.
That would only complete the vision I have of how everything works.
Yeah, you would have some sort of vision like that.
I can't see it in a million years, personally.
And by the way, when you first turn her voice onto the stream, it is actually jarring.
She has this, when you first hear it, you get used to it.
Yeah.
But when you first hear her voice, it is so squeaky and high-pitched and just sounds bad.
It's a bad, she has a bad sound.
Let's listen again.
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NATO declares cyber attacks to trigger military responses.
So there's your rapid response force.
If there's a cyber attack, then we of course will go in and do whatever we need to do.
A lot of talk here in the EU about Putin's nuclear option, which I believe to be total terrorism of the people.
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Okay, so they're terrorizing the public with frightening scenarios.
Yes, and then Robert Kagan in the Wall Street Journal.
Now, we know who Robert Kagan is.
Yes, Robert Kagan is running this Ukrainian situation.
Well, yeah, not just him.
It's the whole clan, yes.
It's Noodleman, Newland is now her name, and of course Frederick Kagan.
At least they're running a lot of this Ukraine stuff.
And he has written an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal.
America's Dangerous Aversion to Conflict.
And I implore everyone to read this, how this scholar, I think, what's his credit here?
I think they say that he's, let me check the bottom of the piece here.
He gets some kind of credit about what his credit is.
What is with these people?
This is John McCain, Lindsey Graham, these warmongers.
Mr.
Kagan is a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and the author of books including Of Paradise and Power, most recently The World America Made.
And this entire article is explaining how we must fight.
That if we do not fight, then you get the world disorder.
I don't see that our fighting has done anything but make the world worse.
It's rubbleized these places, it's made a mess.
Well, I think he wants more.
Well, here's the subtext.
The U.S. increasingly yearns to escape the harsh realities of war, but as recent events make clear, raw force remains a key element in international politics.
This guy is just a...
He is a terrorist.
He wants us to go and kill people.
For no apparent reason.
No, because we disagree with what they're up to.
What's the point?
I mean, why does he want us to kill people?
Well, I'll tell you.
Are we being attacked?
If anything, we're being attacked by hordes of illegal aliens on the southern border that are just coming in and, you know, not to sound like a right-wing nut, but, you know, they're coming in and using resources.
You can play the harmonica and I shall read from the stylings of Robert Kagan.
But Americans, their president, and their elected representatives have accepted this gap between strategy and capability with little comment.
Except by those who would abandon the strategy, it is as if, once again, Americans believe their disillusionment with one of force somehow means that force is no longer a factor in international affairs.
In the 1930s, the illusion was dispelled by Germany and Japan, whose leaders and publics very much believed in the utility of military power.
Today, as the U.S. seems to seek its escape from power, others are stepping forward as if on cue to demonstrate just how effective raw power can really be.
Putin!
Putin!
Once again, they are people who never accepted the liberal world's definition of progress and modernity, who don't share its hierarchy of values.
They are not driven primarily by economic considerations.
They have never put their faith in the power of soft power, never believed that world opinion, no matter how outraged, could prevent successful conquests by a determined military.
They are undeterred by their McDonald's.
They still believe in the old-fashioned verities of hard power at home and abroad, and if they are not met by a sufficient hard power response, they will prove that, yes, there is such a thing as a military solution.
What?
Oh yeah.
Ready?
This is the craziest thing.
This lesson won't be lost on others who wield increasing power in other parts of the world and who, like Vladimir Putin's autocratic Russia and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's fanatical Islamic state, have grievances of their own.
In the 1930s, when things began to go bad, they went very bad very quickly.
Japan's invasion of Manchuria in 1931 exposed the hollow shell that was the League of Nations, a lesson acted upon by Hitler and Mussolini in the four years that followed.
Then Germany's military successes in Europe emboldened Japan to make its move in East Asia on the not unreasonable assumption that Britain and the US would be too distracted and overstretched to respond.
The successive assaults of the liberal aggressors, illiberal aggressors, and the successive failures of the liberal powers thus led to a cascade of disasters.
I suppose you could look back on history and rewrite it any way you want.
He's a historian, by the way.
Let us hope that those who urge calm are right, but it is hard to avoid the impression that we have already had our 1931.
As we head deeper into our version of the 1930s, we may be quite shocked, just as our forebears were, at how quickly things fall apart.
Come on, I love reading.
Thank you.
A nice accent.
So this is, and this is the Wall Street Journal, this is what the elites, the globalists, this is how they think, and they're way above anybody's head.
This is him basically fapping off in front of his buddies.
Look what I wrote.
Well, interesting.
Do you want to talk about the MH17 black box and the true reasons perhaps behind the temporary ceasefire?
Yeah, so I'm watching this thing with Cohen, the professor, Stephen Cohen, and they asked him something.
He's talking about the Ukrainian situation, and then he just drops a little gem in there, and she asks him about it.
Amy Goodman, War and Peace.
That's the only show he really shows up a lot on.
And She asks him, well, what are you talking about?
And then he goes into this little thing about the black boxes, and then she kind of stumbles out of the show, and she's just, she's, we gotta go, bye.
Oh, one of those, get him off the air, off the air, off the air, get him off the air.
I don't know that she wears an IFB. Oh, please.
But she might, I don't know, you can't tell that hair of hers.
Oh, no, no, no, let's not be misogynistic.
You know, she has a self-image problem as a woman, completely irked and urged on by the fashion industry, which is making her feel bad about herself.
I find it hard to believe that she's affected by any of that at all, or she'd wash her hair once in a while.
What?
There's nothing wrong with it.
You bring Ukraine into NATO, and all this stuff will be up and ready, and then it'll just take the shoot-down of a Malaysian aircraft, about which everybody's forgotten.
Still nobody knows who did it.
There seems to have been an agreement among the major powers not to tell us who did it, which suggests it wasn't the rebels, it wasn't Russia after all.
But it would take something like that, which can happen in these circumstances, To launch something that was unthinkable.
What do you think there seems to be an agreement between the major companies?
Stop, stop, stop.
Stop.
It took her forever to hear that.
Well, that's because she's wearing the IFB and so I'm like, what?
It took her forever to come up with this little, he says it and then he goes on and on and on and on and on and then she says, well, wait a minute.
Back it up again.
I won't interrupt again.
I'll go back about 20 seconds almost on that.
Seems to have been an agreement among the major powers not to tell us who did it would suggest it wasn't the rebels, it wasn't Russia after all, but it would take something like that, which can happen in these circumstances.
Amy, Amy, Amy, Amy!
What do you think there seems to be an agreement between the major companies?
She was thinking about booking her vacation.
I've had this happen where I've been interviewing people and just my mind is like, what?
Have you never had that?
Interviewing someone, and you see the mouth move, you hear the words, but you're thinking, God, I want a pizza.
This has happened to me.
It happens to everybody.
So, in this case, well, I want to hear the rest of his analysis.
We've got to work on the audio on this.
This is really crappy.
Somehow, his range...
No, they have him.
Something's wrong with them.
It's them.
Nothing I can do about it.
I could fix a little bit of it, but I'm not.
He's talking too low.
He's got his mic funny.
It's just horrible.
In addition to the insurance company for the airplane, which technically has legal responsibility, the major countries that are doing it, the Britain has the black boxes.
The Netherlands are involved.
There was a report the other day that these parties, these states agreed that they would not divulge individually what they have discovered.
Now they've had plenty of time to interpret the black boxes.
There are reports from Germany that the White House version of what happened is not true.
Therefore you have to look elsewhere for the culprit who did the shooting down.
They're sitting on satellite intercepts.
They have the MHS. They won't release the air controllers' conversations in Kiev with the doomed aircraft.
Why not?
Did the pilot say, let me speculate, oh my God, we're being fired on by a jet fighter next to us.
What's going on?
Because we know there were two Ukrainian jet fighters.
We don't know.
But somebody knows.
You might ask, you might get somebody on who's been investigating this to find out what they actually know.
Well, we want to thank you very much.
Cut them off.
Let's go to commercial.
No, that was...
Let's get out.
No, this is the same here.
While that was playing, I did another scan.
The most recent article I can find about the black box in the Dutch media is from 48 hours ago.
That's the most recent one.
A couple of reports, which would be the more mainstream.
And then Elsevier, four days ago.
This is very typical for the Netherlands.
The Dutch, they give up.
The Dutch are so gullible.
Let me give you an example.
First, I'll tell you what's happened with the black box, the flight data recorder, and the cockpit voice recorder.
The Dutch are like, well, we have to wait for the official news.
Can I stop you for a second?
You have to stop clearing your throat, because every time you do it, or go away from the mic, because I'm just waiting for the bullshit guy to come on.
Bullshit!
It's a little different.
It makes me jumpy.
Okay, I'm sorry.
It's also because I'm sitting down and I don't have the standing desk like I normally do, so the phlegm just builds up.
Phlegm.
Nothing you need to know.
The Dutch are very gullible.
They want to believe.
They're rule followers.
Yes, not a problem.
We'll wait for the report.
In the meantime, Frans Timmermans, the Secretary of State of the Netherlands, who I know.
I know this guy.
He's a total shill, but he knows his shill, and I like him for it.
We talked about him on the previous show.
He has now been nominated, I guess, as Junker the Drunker's number two man, which means he'll be doing all the work.
Nice!
How perfect does that bring him in?
Then we have the Dutch authority that is evaluating this...
They evaluate accidents in general.
And this, to me, is a complete corrupt organization.
It used to be run by the old prince, Peter from Fullerhofer.
He was the board of, I forget what it's called, the board of accidents, the board of safety board, whatever it's called.
So there's total, total, just whatever the media says, people believe it.
And here's an example of how this works, and how unbelievable it is.
Joan Rivers dies, and all of a sudden...
Everybody's an expert on Joan Rivers.
Now the only thing I believe the Dutch know Joan Rivers from is from Fashion Police, which airs here.
They have no idea about her background.
It is impossible that people have this level of love and knowledge for Joan Rivers and her career and what she really stood for the way many people in the United States do and understand.
But everyone goes, oh, Joan.
Everyone goes, oh, they're just regurgitating whatever the press says.
And it's disturbing to see it before your very eyes.
So the Dutch will say nothing, which is why they were chosen for this exercise.
They're perfect.
And nothing comes out of it.
No outrage, no protest.
The victims' families, they had private meetings with the Prime Minister.
Oh, no, no, there's going to be a secret meeting about everything, and the press is not allowed.
Well, why don't you give us the, when we first...
When you dissected this shoot down, you had the only logical explanation for what actually went down.
And if you could just summarize it for people who may not have heard it.
I can try.
By the way, I should mention, this is one of the many things that we've dissected over the years that we have to kind of assume that the listeners are somewhat aware of.
I don't want to encourage people to listen to old shows, but...
I don't recall exactly which show it was, but it happened.
It was right after the accident.
There you go.
Right after the accident.
And you had done coverage, some paperwork about spoofing.
Well, we have a worldwide intelligence network.
And this is interesting you bring this up.
The Worldwide Intelligence Network alerted me to a specific exercise that was done between, I think it was June 5th and June 9th, I am paraphrasing, and we probably everyone heard about this when the European air traffic control and we probably everyone heard about this when the European air traffic control screens just blanked and planes were just vanishing from the screen And this was...
Was it Next Fin?
Was that what it was called?
I'm trying to remember what the...
I can't remember.
Well, it's kind of important.
Hold on a second.
I think it was Next...
The Next Fin...
Let me see.
Why do I think it was that...
Someone in the chat room will know.
And it was a war games, electronic warfare war games that were going on.
And there was a German document, which we had, and we had the translation, which explained that this blanking out of planes on the radar was because of this jamming technology that they were using, NUFIP. Thank you very much.
I knew it.
NUFIP. Newfip.
Here we go.
And it was episode 636, if you want to have it.
You can get the document and all the other parts of the show notes there.
And that document, which we still have in our archive, if you go to The Guardian, June 13th, where they had an article which we linked to about this Newfip, Here's the headline of the Guardian website.
So the article is gone.
And it was from Reuters in Vienna and Prague.
So Reuters has scrubbed this article about this particular exercise.
And the theory that our global intelligence network came back with, as you know, many of them in government and military and intelligence, actual intelligence, is that the Ukrainian plane, jet fighter, about four kilometers behind, and we know about four kilometers behind, and we know plenty of eyewitnesses, lots of people know there was a plane there, but it jammed the radar, spoofed it, and made it look like something else, which was basically, I hate to use it.
Which was the painting of the target for the surface-to-air missile on the ground and, you know, the surface-to-air missile.
And in 636, we go into a lot of detail about exactly how that worked.
But the one thing that did not happen, if not some guy running around with a vodka bottle, and just shooting planes out of the sky, which is what you were led to believe, it takes 12 people to properly operate the book system.
And this is what we do in the analysis.
And this is not being brought up anywhere.
And I see now that the article about the electronic warfare exercise has been scrubbed from the web.
This is interesting.
This is news.
This is news.
This is new information now that the article is gone.
Correct.
I was alerted to this today.
And by the way, this is nonsense that the copyright expired or their license expired.
I'm not buying that.
Well, I'm not either.
I've got information, man.
New shit has come to light.
Well, we can look around.
Someone sent me an email and said, hey, it's missing here.
It seems like this.
Well, let's see.
Military blamed.
Let me just take the headline.
Somebody's got to be laggard in getting rid of it.
Let's see.
So here's the Guardian.
Well, how about...
Here's Reuters.
I'll click the Reuters link.
And the Reuters link seems to be...
Oh, wait.
Was this updated?
Hmm.
They don't have the document.
Yeah.
Yeah.
See, the document is gone.
Save page ads, people.
Yeah.
Well, we have the document.
If you go to 636, we have the document.
We've got every single web page that we have an archive of in OPML format, which you can see in text or render in HTML. We have everything.
As part of the service we deliver.
Well, definitely as a service, the show notes are one of the...
Even though the show is what gets everybody to help us through contributions, donations, producerships.
But in fact, the real value, long-term value of the show is the show notes.
And I would suggest to anyone who's a student...
To comb through these things or do searches if you're working on a topic.
Search.nashownotes.com.
This is all based on structured data.
Every show notes for every episode, going back hundreds of episodes, not in the very beginning, It's in structured XML data, and the format is OPML, so it's an outliner format, which is very handy for research, and it's being parsed by search.nashownotes.com, but you can also grab it and index it and do whatever you want with it.
Here's the one thing that is not being brought up, which I feel is significant.
This is my last election.
After this election, I'll have more flexibility.
This was President Obama's open mic with Medvedev.
And Medvedev said, yeah, I'll pass it on to Vladimir.
And I am just cynical enough to believe that this is still in cahoots to F the EU. It is very easy for me to assume that Russia and others are taking part together to ultimately squeeze the euro.
Squeeze it down.
And it's happening.
What are we at?
128 today?
When we came over two weeks ago, John, wasn't it 133?
Yeah.
What is it today?
I don't know.
128?
Let me take a quick look.
Yeah, let me take a look too.
What's the exchange rate?
129, I think.
129.
Did we have a chart?
How's it been going?
So it was...
It was $138 in December.
It was $129.61 as we speak.
It was $139 in May.
Yeah.
$1.40.
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
And now it's $129.
What is that, 8% loss?
It's a lot of loss.
Meanwhile, I'm looking at one of my pages here.
Sergey Brin just sold some Google stock to the tune of $96 million.
Fine.
I guess he needs to get some new bathroom fixtures.
Fine.
So that is my feeling, although I have learned that those resourceful Dutch, you know, I was talking about how vegetables and dairy products and flowers are not being sent to Russia.
Well, this turns out to be total bullcrap.
Here's how it works, at least with tomatoes.
I've heard this firsthand.
You send the tomatoes to Turkey, they get a Turkish sticker, they get sold right on to Russia.
Well, it gets the Turks a piece of the action.
Yeah, yeah.
Europe is just all designed to bypass these things.
That was the gray market, or the black market, during the wars.
The Europeans know how to do this better than anybody.
Yeah, we should have thought of that when we heard about it.
Yeah, but it's cheating, because it's supposed to be sanctions, people.
Sanctions!
Sanctions!
This is what caused the ceasefire in the first place, is the sanctions.
I want to leave this topic with a little song.
While I'm driving off laughing, this is what I'll say.
Fuck the EU.
Oh, exactly.
Fuck the EU.
There was a TV show in Germany that kind of...
Someone sent me a clip.
It's like a No Agenda light, humoristic show.
And the two...
I guess they're actors slash comedians.
I forgot the name of the skit.
Or the outfits.
It's about 14 minutes.
And they, you know, they're reading this F the EU from Victoria Nuland.
And, you know, they're kind of playing it back the way we're thinking about many things.
And I think they got hassled and they got reprimanded.
And I think they're going to pull something off the air.
And make no mistake, people, Germany is not your friend in Europe.
It's not your friend.
Germany is...
I mean, the German people are.
They're just as ignorant as everybody else.
That's why we have Jacob Applebaum and everybody.
They're all spies.
They're all spying on the Germans.
Germans.
Hey, Germans.
Please.
Rebecca, what's her name?
Snowden's girlfriend.
Yeah.
Laura Poitras.
And they're hanging out with you in your chaos computer club.
They're spying on you.
Trust me, for once, they're spies.
They're nice.
But they're spying.
They're reporting back to home base.
They were the Russians.
Germany is Russia.
Angela speaks Russian.
Oh, by the way, Franz Timmermans, the Secretary of State, he also speaks fluent Russian, I found out.
No.
Yeah, this is the thing.
Everyone's speaking Russian.
Well, you know, where their bread's buttered.
Yeah.
So Germany has their direct pipeline coming in through the north.
They've got all the oil, all the gas they need.
They're sitting pretty.
But no.
And then you get the Polish guy as your new leader.
The singer.
Tusk.
Who hates Russia again.
Oh, there's big trouble, man.
All the Polish, they hate the Russians for good reason.
Hey, I heard an interview with our buddy Jarl Mohn on NPR. Who's Jarl again?
Jarl is my old guy at MTV, better known as Lee Masters, the top 40 disc jockey.
Oh, Lee Masters, right.
Lee Masters, everybody.
And I thought, I felt like I would clip a little bit, because this is now, you know, the honeymoon is over, he's been in for six months, and he's asked, you know, everybody for his opinion, and now, you know, apparently NPR has a huge problem.
They have a deficit.
They're running at a deficit.
Wait a minute.
Yeah.
They're making tens, hundreds of, what is their budget?
100, 200 million dollars?
In this interview, which is, it's about a half hour interview, um, There was mention of the money that somehow they can't make ends meet.
They can't make ends meet.
So, in this interview...
A couple of things come up, which I thought would be interesting.
In a way, this is what we're competing with.
Jarl Lee has come in and said, look, I'm going to make this place more profitable.
I have to make it more profitable.
So how do you do that when you have...
You're underwriters and sponsorships and you're not selling commercials.
How would you do that, John?
I mean, this is a daunting task for our buddy Jarl.
How would you do that?
I would do it with native advertising to an extreme.
I would go all in on native advertising and just slip it into all the news coverage and you wouldn't have any interruptions that way.
And then I'd run a bunch of these.
I think Carbonite would probably cover the rest of it.
Maybe audio.
Let's just get something straight.
NPR does not sell advertising, correct?
No, that's not correct.
But that is what they...
If you went on the street and said, does NPR have advertising?
People would say no.
Most people would say no.
That's what they'd say.
But we know it's not true.
They've said so themselves.
Let's listen to that for just a moment, just so we can...
Wow.
I haven't played that in so long, I don't even know where it is.
Anyway, NPR. He played it recently.
Played it recently.
No, that's bad.
It is a former...
Former head of NPR says advertising or whatever you want to call it.
It looks like it's gone.
Like it's deleted.
They've scrubbed it.
They've scrubbed it from...
NPR hackers have gotten to you.
I'm telling you.
Anonymous.
They're all over the place.
I'll find it later.
So Jarl, he is just so brazen.
He calls them units.
You see, these sponsorship opportunities.
They're not ads.
These mentions are units.
Here's his solution.
A website comment from a listener says, no, don't increase corporate underwriting.
Decrease it, please.
I hate the commercials and foundation promos on NPR. It really muddies and destroys the brand.
We're not increasing the amount at all.
We are simply do a better job selling it.
We have undersold it in terms of the value that we're getting.
The amount of money paid for each mention, I think, is really under-optimized.
We're not talking about increasing the amount of the announcements.
We're talking about increasing the amount of the money.
Same number of units.
Same number of units.
Okay.
Hey, it's going to cost you more, but this is not going to work, you see.
Because people are going to be like, well, then I want to have my call to action, which is not allowed.
Yeah, I've got plenty of examples where a call to action is in these commercials, especially on NPR, more so than PBS. Right, but this is my point, is that people are going to, now it's going to become standards.
You can see how it's going to play out.
Now, here's Jarl.
A caller calls in, and what is one of the biggest problems with advertisers or underwriters or whatever you want to call them?
The biggest problem is if you have an advertiser who spends money like, I don't know, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, it may be difficult for objective reporting to occur.
This is what corrupts everything.
This is why.
And not difficult.
This is actually impossible.
It is impossible.
But people don't believe that.
People don't believe that.
They feel that NPR is held to a higher standard.
And that they somehow can do it, and no matter who's advertising, they will be objective and will do just as much negative reporting, if necessary, that they would for any other news story.
And you have to give them the public relations side of the business, you have to give them a lot of credit for propagating what amounts to bullshit.
Yes.
I am concerned about corporate underwriting.
I heard you just say that you're going to be increasing the amount of money, but not the number of units.
But some corporations, you know, we don't want them underwriting NPR all that much, like pharmaceutical companies or maybe Monsanto.
Can you speak to that?
First, let me play the jingle again.
Now listen to Jarl.
He hasn't really considered this question.
You know, I love that.
You silly fool.
Some corporations, you know, we don't want them underwriting NPR all that much, like pharmaceutical companies or maybe Monsanto.
Can you speak to that?
You know, I don't really have a well-formed point of view on that.
It depends if they're advocacy commercials, which we don't take.
We don't do anything like that.
To be honest with you, we haven't even looked at it.
This has not become an issue internally that I'm aware of.
Not an issue internally that I'm aware of.
Hey, we want to do this cool thing about Monsanto killing farmers and committing suicide.
Can we run this report?
Of anybody wanting to be a corporate underwriter and us having a particular challenge with it.
No.
Well, that would be true.
You have no particular challenge with it.
You don't give a crap.
You just don't say anything negative about them.
Thank you for the call, Alex.
There is a sense of more fun being tied to maybe the kind of program that's been very popular.
Car Talk, for example.
Wow, talk about changing the subject.
That's why I left it in there.
Let's talk about car talk.
Wait, wait, don't tell me.
Oh, they talk about that too.
It's just a fabulous program, that wait, wait, don't tell me.
It really is.
And it's an expensive program, I will point out.
That's a live...
They've got a road budget.
They're always on the road.
They have to set up shop in these different cities and large, expensive facilities.
They have to fly these people, all the guests and everybody out here and there.
They have to bring an audience.
It costs money to manage that.
Yeah.
It costs a fortune to do that show.
Here is the...
A live radio show.
Well, we do a live radio show.
The audience is here.
We've flown the audience in.
I said high budget.
We've flown the audience in.
To the chat room.
We've flown ourselves in.
Yes, we do.
Here's the final one.
You have to listen very carefully to what Lee is saying here.
But I'm very happy about this.
And I can tell you what's going to happen right now.
If you liked NPR, if you liked This American Life on the podcast, say goodbye.
Say goodbye.
Podcasts are going away on public radio because he knows they can't monetize them.
They can't make money because they're running advertising.
And there's no way to effectively...
Monitor how many people heard an ad.
This is my life.
You can say a million times that it's possible to track and how many downloads.
This is the biggest bullshit ever.
It is not possible.
Advertisers aren't comfortable with it.
In-show mentions on podcasts, what Leo does, that works very well.
They like that with a very specific audience.
And believe me, you're not going to get a lot of negative carbonite talk on This Week in Tech.
But that's okay for what it is.
But that's what works.
That is the type of in-show, not even native advertising, blatant advertising, which works and people are loyal and they support the program because of that.
But you're not going to get...
You can't on NPR in a podcast have a Toyota commercial and the host talk about how great Toyota is.
It's not going to happen.
So it's going to go away, and here's proof.
Hi.
NPR does a great job of making podcasts available for most of their programs.
In fact, the way I listen to NPR, I'd say half of the content I listen to is time-shifted, listened later on a podcast to make it more convenient to my schedule.
I'm wondering if you're going to enhance the podcast capability or what you're thinking is on podcasting.
Well, podcasting and digital platforms are hugely important for us.
Most of what we produce is available digitally.
Aren't you going to enhance podcasting?
Well, we think there's a lot that we can do with the NPR One platform, the digital platform, which KQED was a...
The NPR One platform.
You know what that is?
A weak, weak app platform.
With proprietary crap, it's going to be encrypted.
You'll have to subscribe and all this information.
It's not a podcast.
The NPR One platform.
A big participant in.
It allows users to customize in a mobile digital experience.
A mobile digital experience, John.
Do you have a mobile digital experience?
Listening to the local news, the national news, local stories, national stories.
And so I think there's going to be more in that regard.
But more than anything, we want to make sure that our local stations have the ability to still...
huge audience.
This is what he's worried about too.
He's, he's, he knows that he cannot sell the idea of podcasts because the local stations don't get their local advertising underwriter, whatever you want to call it, dollars.
He's going to have to kill the podcast.
He has to kill it.
He knows it has to.
And, and this is, this is the core problem and he has no answer.
This is the core problem is that the distribution has always been where you make the money.
This is why what we're doing is monetizing through a network doesn't work.
If this American life wants to go off on its own and disconnect and just take donations, it will work.
There won't be billionaires.
But they will be able to sustain.
They'll have to cut back.
I don't know how big the production crew is there.
Maybe you have to have a smaller lease vehicle.
But you will be able to sustain.
But this is going to be pulled away, people.
This is not going to work.
This is not going to work.
And the Curry and Dvorak Consulting Group would entertain helping you out with this.
Yeah, they have their attitudes wrong.
I don't think we could help them.
If you're going to go in that direction, we've heard it all before.
We've seen this before.
It's the same old tune.
You don't want to face the reality that things have changed.
And we're going to milk the old scheme as best we can.
And how are you going to...
Get more income with a waning audience.
We're going to up the price of the units.
Jack up the rates.
Yeah, jack up the rates.
Exactly.
And maybe native advertising, you know, you're right.
That may just come into it.
So I'm watching a New York station since we're on the topic of native advertising.
Mm-hmm.
And so I would listen to this story, and this is the news on WPIX, and they run this story, this native ad, and I was just flabbergasted.
Actually, the funny thing is, it was obviously editorialized a little bit because they submarined the purpose of the ad at the very end.
Well, this next story may come as a shock to some shoppers in New York.
A new study out there finds that Whole Foods is actually a bargain.
According to Bloomberg Intelligence, Whole Foods is a lot cheaper than fresh...
A new study.
...Stirac and Gristides.
Researchers took 97 items at each store and added up the prices.
The basket at Whole Foods cost $391.
Fresh Directs cost $398.
And at Gristides, it cost $458.
Whoa.
But you aren't You're probably better off shopping at your local grocery store.
The study found that Whole Foods was about $50 more expensive than Fairway Market, which is always fun to shop at.
It is indeed.
Wait a minute, Fairway Market was the advertiser?
No, it was Whole Foods.
Are you sure?
Because she really messed that up.
That was really bad.
Now, if Fairway was the advertiser, you wouldn't be emphasizing Whole Foods and the other Fresh Direct or whatever it is.
It was obviously a commercial put in by Whole Foods to bump these other direct competitors.
Fairway's not a competitor with Whole Foods.
Mm-hmm.
But these other two operations are that Fresh Direct or whatever it is.
So they try to make it look like real content by throwing that in the end with some non-competitive outfit?
Yeah.
Funny.
Yeah, because people who shop at Whole Foods might be tempted to shop at these other competitive places.
They're never going to go shop at Fairway or any normal place because, oh, the food's not organic.
There's not enough kale.
Yeah.
There was a good article that I've put in the show notes.
It's called Tesla, Uber, and Internet Sales Taxes Quit Being So Easily Duped on Peach Pundit.
And it kind of starts off by saying, I don't even know what Peach Pundit really is.
But what's interesting is how the writer of this article, I don't know who wrote it, talks about how...
Duped they get by the process of mainly PR companies.
And the example they use is Tesla, which of course Tesla can do no wrong.
You know, it's the Tony Stark of the internet.
Elon Musk is, you know, he walks on water.
He pisses Chanel.
I'll use this week's story about Tesla wanting to sell cars directly to consumers as an example of how everyone gets duped.
It generally follows an accepted formula to help you engage on their behalf without letting pesky facts or shades of grey into your strong belief that Tesla is a complete victim of overarching government regulation and greedy auto dealers.
The first step in this process is to get a news story that is originated.
Now, we talk about this all the time.
In cases where the company has a legislative interest at stake, it's often with the help of a skilled PR firm.
And in this article it says news is rarely organic these days.
PR folks help make sure that the right message gets to the right people.
Then via the magic of social media, which of course is all these PR companies, those stories spread, often with a unified theme.
In Tesla's case, this is a company that is not allowed to sell cars in Georgia, which is a violation of the free market.
Why isn't Tesla allowed to compete like a company should?
Cue outrage.
And it's a good article to read, because it shows exactly how it works, in particular with online media.
In particular, it's very, very sophisticated.
And I think if you read that, the bottom line is, without people doing what we do...
Your life will just be one huge stinking pile of bullcrap.
You'll never get a different view on anything.
No, I don't think people realize...
A lot of our listeners do realize this to a point.
But...
And when we tell them to try to think what life would be like without at least a show like this...
I'm sure there's somebody else that does this in some way or shape.
I don't know if anyone puts as much effort into it as we do.
And I don't know if anyone's as cynical as we are and that we see more BS at deeper levels.
I think we do the best job of that.
I think we also, we've built up the Worldwide Intelligence Network that our producers...
The Worldwide Intelligence Network that we...
Yes, it's a big deal.
So when I play this next clip, which is 30 seconds, which was the big story on Pierre OmniGuard, Drive My Car, Don't Ride, Bring Me World's $250 million WordPress blog, The Intercept, there's no outrage.
Well, it turns out that what Delaney was sending press officers at the CIA were drafts that were yet to be published and also very detailed summaries of stories he planned and that he wanted the press officers to take a look at and even, according to him, correct what they had a problem with.
Now, it's not...
Unusual for a journalist to try to curry favor with the source in order to get them to speak to you and to help you with your story, but this really shows an uncomfortable level of collaboration, for lack of a better word, and it only shows a window of time that's very short.
This was a couple of months in 2012.
Yeah, which means it's rampant.
It's rampant, of course.
Everything.
You think Barbara Starr actually knows anything about the Pentagon or warfare?
She's like a female lurch, this woman.
She comes from local, stupid productions.
This woman knows nothing about anything except she sits in that little box of a studio for CNN, and they do breaking news, and she reads some script about whatever the Pentagon tells her to do.
Sorry, that's just what it is.
And if she files a story, she'll have it all checked.
Everything's checked.
You think that Glenn Greenwald hasn't had everything checked and double checked and the Guardian?
Yes!
There's no secrets.
It's all safe.
It's all contained for your protection.
Don't worry about it.
Not a problem.
And then you have stuff like this, which is the art.
This was an op-ed bylined by Cameron and Obama.
Yeah, I saw this, yeah.
And it was funny because it's presented on PBS. I believe it's PBS. I have the clip here from them introducing this.
There was something in there that I thought was weird.
Ah, I heard it.
Yeah, there you go.
I don't need it when I catch myself.
There's something that was very strange about this, and it was besides the juxtaposition of who wrote this article, and we know neither one of these guys wrote this article, but it was byline Cameron and Obama.
So Cameron got top billing.
It was in the London Times.
That's an interesting pecking order.
Yes, I found that.
But it was London Times, and I think they wouldn't allow it to go the other way because they're always accusing the Prime Minister of being the lapdog for America.
Right, right, right.
So they switched it up to make it this way.
But it's still bullcrap anyway.
But play this clip, and then I have a comment.
Which clip is it?
America and NATO and the BS. I'm sorry.
Ah, that would be the one I'd be looking for.
The summit nations also mean to address the threat posed by the Islamic State group in Iraq and Syria.
In a joint Times of London guest article today, President Obama and British Prime Minister David Cameron wrote...
If terrorists think we will weaken in the face of their threats, they could not be more wrong.
Countries like Britain and America will not be cowed by barbaric killers.
NATO Chief Rasmussen said the international community has an obligation to stop the militants from advancing.
And he said allies would seriously consider an Iraqi request for help.
He also warned time is running out for a deal keeping U.S. and other troops in Afghanistan past the end of the year.
Yeah.
War porn.
What I heard in there, which I thought was odd, and I don't believe it was written by either one of these.
Countries like Britain and America.
Do you know of a country named America?
Is there a country out there called America?
Is Britain a country?
I know there's a great Britain.
And there's a United Kingdom, which I believe is the country we're talking about.
Was this verbatim in the op-ed this week?
Yes, they had it up on the screen.
She was reading from the prompter, but she was reading what was shown on the screen.
It said, countries like Britain and America.
Well, that's a very interesting question.
Of course, there is no America.
It's the United States of America.
That would be the proper...
Or USA would be good.
And I think even the United States you can get by with.
But there's no country America.
Well, it's America the Beautiful.
There's a song.
Yeah.
Well, it's a start.
I just found that very odd.
I don't know what it means.
I don't have an interpretation.
So that I got.
I'm not sure about Britain.
Because it would be Great Britain, I believe, would be proper.
Yeah, GB. Or UK, United Kingdom.
Right.
Not Britain.
Well, it's like Britain and America, the country of America.
I mean, this obviously wasn't, if this was written by Obama, then he, it's nuts, but it wasn't.
Let's don't even think that.
This was written by some PR agency for NATO. Well, let's listen to what the vice president thinks is a country.
The sky is the limit.
I mean, it is limitless.
There's no region, the nation of Africa.
Right, the nation of Africa.
That's what he thinks.
That's because he's an idiot.
That's different.
I have a biting clip.
I have the same clip, but yes, I'll let you play it.
Is that the longer version?
Because the longer version...
What's the size of yours?
Okay, I'll bite.
Mine is seven and a half inches.
Well, I have...
Hold on.
My length is 150.
Okay, you have the long version.
I'd rather you play that because the long version, which I had, I don't know what happened to it.
I ended up with the short version.
The long version invites a segment of the show called Drunk or Not Drunk.
Yes, it does.
I know.
You are so right.
And it wasn't until I was clipping it that I was like, oh my.
Because the longer version, he starts off, this is Joe Biden, and this is talking about ISIS. Now, Joe, do you mind if I set it up a little differently?
Well, you mean as opposed to that?
My setup was that apparently there's a housing development in a town called Hell, which I think is in North Carolina.
Oh, I don't even know about that part.
Well, he says they're all going to end up living in Hell.
Hold on.
Let's back it up a little bit.
Today, I think this is important to do.
Today, or this weekend, our president of America, the president of America, America, is presumably still in Wales or he's traveling, whatever.
So he couldn't do his podcast, which will not be, you can find it on NPR One, our digital platform.
So Joe, what does Joe get to do?
Does Joe do the...
Is your clip a clip of the podcast?
I'm setting up the drunk or not drunk by going...
It's reverse chronology.
Okay, I'm...
Are you with me?
All right.
So Joe gets to fill in for the president on the show.
Now, if you're doing a show, let's say it's Dvorak Horowitz Unplugged.
It would be unlikely, but for some reason, I would fill in for you.
I would say, you know, hey everybody, this is an unrehearsed, unscripted thing about finance, and I'm filling in for John C. Dvorak.
My name's Adam Curry.
That's what you do on a podcast, right?
That's what you do on a radio show.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is Joe Biden.
I'm filling in for President Obama while he addresses the NATO summit in Wales.
Does Joe realize that this is the president's address to the nation?
This is not a podcast or radio show.
He's not filling in.
But just I'll play a little bit more of this intro because he's going to use this.
Typically, this is about three minutes.
He does six minutes of basically...
Joe kicks ass, and I should be your next president.
So listen to his next line.
This is very well written, this, by the way.
Addresses the NATO summit in Wales.
When the president and I took office.
When the president and I took office.
That's a nice way to put it.
I like it.
Yeah.
In January of 2009, this nation was in the midst of the greatest economic crisis since the Great Depression.
Our economy had plummeted at a rate of 8%.
I just wanted to hear what he's saying, how he's making it sound like he took office and he's so awesome.
Yeah.
Part of the fastest economic decline any time in the last half century.
Now listen to this.
Millions of families were falling underwater on their homes.
I'm falling underwater and I can't get up.
This is not even correct.
Falling underwater.
On their homes.
This is not even English, Joe.
And threatened with foreclosure.
The iconic automobile industry was under siege.
The iconic automobile industry was under siege.
Really?
Was there like a gate around Detroit with Japanese Toyotas making sure no laborers or food could get in?
But yesterday, yesterday's jobs report was another reminder of how far we've come.
I was going to take credit for something that is just crazy.
We've had 54 straight months of job creation.
Okay, he says 54 straight months of job creation.
Well, yeah, one job is a job created.
And that's the longest streak of uninterrupted job growth in the United States history.
That's different.
It's either job growth or job creation.
It's not both.
One can beget the other.
And that's bullcrap, by the way.
Of course it's bullcrap.
It's job growth that only occurs after $150,000 or $155,000.
Thank you.
Thank you.
A gain of that much because that is the replacement gain that is needed on a month-by-month basis.
Anything below that is job retraction.
So there's no chance that they did that because they had plenty of low numbers during that period, including the most recent one, which was $145,000.
Yep.
Now here, this is where...
It's a lie.
It's a total lie.
This is really nice.
We've had this conversation before.
You will not want to play harmonica during this.
You want to have your undivided attention.
Sorry, I'm just...
I know.
I understand.
It's okay.
I just wish you had a song to play, you know?
We have often discussed, in fact I recall a whole episode, about the definition of middle class.
What is the middle class?
Is that a number you make?
Is that where you live?
Is that what is it?
And I think that was pretty inconclusive.
Other than the conclusion is it is not a number, it is not an amount of money you make.
Would you agree with that assessment of our conversation about that?
I think more or less.
I mean, I think you can, if you wanted to revisit the topic, I would say that Marx probably discussed it or defined it the best as just simply the bourgeoisie.
Correct.
Which is a certain group of people that aren't elites and they're not...
You're not starving.
You're not eating dog food and you're not an elite.
That is pretty much the middle class.
But let's have Joe...
Explain exactly what the middle class is.
And this will be the only time I'll ask you to listen to someone and consider if you want to vote for this man or not.
You know, the middle class is not a number.
It's a value set.
A value set.
It means being able to own your own home.
Raise your children in a safe neighborhood.
Hold on a second.
No, no, no.
Just listen to it.
It's only 24 seconds.
Because there's a kicker at the end, brah.
Okay, okay, bro.
You know, the middle class is not a number.
It's a value set.
It means being able to own your own home.
Raise your children in a safe neighborhood.
Send them to a school where if they do well, they can qualify to go to college.
And if they get accepted, you'll be able to find a way to be able to send them to college.
And in the meantime, if your parents need help, being able to take care of them.
And hope to put aside enough money that your children will not have to take care of you.
That's the American dream.
Oh!
Mediocrity!
The American dream.
Is the American dream, ladies and gentlemen.
We just be mediocre, be in the middle, follow the rules, retire with dignity.
No, Joe Biden, no.
The American dream is what I'm living.
I'm living the American dream by providing an outstanding product with another small businessman.
And growing and helping people and feeling good about it.
And only in America.
That's the American dream.
To strive for greatness.
To be the best podcast in the universe.
Not the middle class podcast in the universe.
Joe Biden.
That is an un-American thing to say.
Un-American, I say.
Okay, now you have the drunk, not drunk one.
Yeah, of course, I've got that.
Absolutely.
When these barbarians replicated with Stephen what they did with Foley.
I love this.
I'm telling you, drunk, right off the bat.
I love how he says, Stephen, but he can't remember James' name, or Jim.
I think it's Stephen instead of Foley.
Foley, yeah.
Foley!
When these barbarians replicated with Stephen what they did with Foley...
Who is from New Hampshire.
Well, it was important votes.
Important votes in New Hampshire.
I need to learn to tune How Dry I Am on the harmonica.
How dry I am.
Yes.
But listen, in this piece, what you're about to hear is very typical of a drunk person where all of a sudden he kicks up like 500% in attitude and really just starts going nuts.
From New Hampshire.
Yeah, he's in the bar.
Yeah.
What happens in the bar?
That's right.
So let's just take it back.
This is a good one.
We're in Cheers.
We're in the bar Cheers.
And Woody's there.
And Carla's there.
And Norm is there.
And there's a little bit of an echo just because the joint is pretty empty.
And there's old Joe.
And old Joe is sitting there.
And he's drunk.
And he's angry.
And he's going to show them just how angry he is.
When these barbarians...
Replicated with Stephen what they did with Foley, who is from New Hampshire.
They somehow think that it's going to lessen U.S. resolve, frighten us.
Where was the bar of cheers?
Boston.
Intimidators.
But...
If they think the American people will be intimidated, they don't know us very well.
Ben, bring me another beer.
No, he's drinking straight shots, this guy.
Here it comes.
Came back after 9-11.
Fuck yeah!
Here it comes.
Where are we in cheers?
We dusted ourselves off and we made sure that Osama bin Laden would never ever again threaten the American people.
We came back Boston Strong.
Hell yeah!
Well, cheers the bar!
Boston Strong!
Blaming no one but resolve to be certain that this didn't happen again.
Today, America may be grieving.
Grieving?
Grieving.
He's like sour.
He's got acid reflux.
He's grieving.
He's the puke.
The bile is coming up in his throat.
He's dry heaving.
He's dry heaving.
America may be grieving.
Still grieving.
I'm Jim Foley, a native of New Hampshire, as I said.
I grew up in Rochester.
But the American people are so much stronger, so much more resolved than any enemy can fully understand.
As a nation, we're united.
And when people harm Americans, we don't retreat.
We don't forget.
We take care of those who are grieving.
And when that's finished, they should know that we retire with dignity and send our kids to college.
We will follow them to the gates of hell until they are brought to justice.
Because hell is where they will reside.
Hell is where they will reside.
I'm drunk.
I'm so wasted.
That's just inappropriate.
I don't know why the guy can't not drink.
He's going to give a public address.
I had to drink.
He's just tired.
I had to drink.
I've poured myself a glass of the Platinum label that we discussed.
The Platinum label is the Johnny Walker.
Yeah, it's 18 years.
Should be quite tasty.
It's very smooth.
Here's Joe's outro on his filling in, just to bring it back around to the gates of hell.
He's not drunk here, by the way.
My fellow Americans.
Oh, sorry, that's the intro.
I want the outro.
Was that the outro?
Sorry, it sounds like the intro.
It's the same thing.
My fellow Americans, we know how to do this.
We've done it before.
It's the way we used to do business, and we can do it that way again.
All the middle class in this country wants is a chance.
No guarantee, just a chance.
Americans want to work.
And when given a fair shot, the American worker has never, ever, ever let his country down.
Now, this is what he should have used in his speech.
But he didn't.
Too bad.
Folks, it's never a good bet to bet against the American people.
That's what he should have said.
To the gates of hell!
Thanks for listening.
There it is again!
He's got to invoke God.
Hold on a second.
And God bless you all.
And may God protect our troops.
He's crying at the end here.
It's so beautiful how he does this.
Listen to him again.
To bet against the American people.
Thanks for listening.
And God bless you all.
And may God protect our troops.
Yes.
So the middle class, you know, get some money.
Oh yes, protect our troops.
This clown actually thinks he could run the country.
Oh boy.
I'm going to show myself by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
In the morning.
You can go back and you can look at that video and you will see that he is almost crying.
Yeah, he probably was taught that that's a cool thing to do.
Show your emotions.
Yes.
Show your emotions.
Do you want a glass, darling?
Huh?
Alright, let me thank a few people that helped us out here on show 650.
I want to apologize in advance for the people who sent in handwritten notes.
Because I'm not going to be able to read them because I can't find them.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
Well, this is disappointing.
This includes Terry Floyd here.
When I dig him up, I'll read him on the next show, so stay tuned.
Let me just thank the people that came in here, like Terry Floyd is...
I'm sorry, there's actually Dmitry Rabinowitz in Phoenix, Arizona with 1, 2, 3, 4...
Phoenix, Arizona, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5...
He says, thanks for the complete unbiased analysis.
Gentlemen.
Haven't even hooked up the cable that's included in my rent because of you guys, which is great.
Also, Terry Floyd, who did send in a note at 12345, a very pleasant note, 12345 in San Leandro, California.
Sean Coffey, $100.66 from Annandale, New South Wales.
And he turned 50 as well as you did.
Oh, that's nice.
Well, happy birthday.
Yes, happy birthday to everybody who turned 50.
What is this?
This is from Chuck Kendrick.
Was this a long note?
Chuck Kendrick.
Oh, Chuck sent the pictures of...
Oh, yes, he needs some immigration karma because he wants to live in Scandinavia.
And he sent us, which Eric forwarded very nicely on the spreadsheet email, if you saw it, all of the pictures of the beautiful woman he is moving to Scandinavia for.
Ah...
Thank you.
That's how you get your note mentioned.
She looks like Jennifer Garner.
Yeah, very good.
She does.
Ed Van Dyke in Herpen.
Ed Van Dyke.
Herpin.
99.78 is a birthday involved with him.
Carolyn Peet in Aubrey, Texas.
Another fine note was sent in from Carolyn.
Yes, very nice note.
In Aubrey, Texas, right down the street from you.
9454.
Jamie Graham, 77 sack of sevens is all we've got for the sevens so far.
That's some real estate karma.
We'll add that into the mix later.
Norwalk, Connecticut.
Brian...
Klimzak in Naperville, Illinois.
$75.
No note.
Sir Thomas Nussbaum, our buddy in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
Oh, this is a...
It's not in yellow.
So let me copy this.
Sir Nussbaum, St.
Nicole, and Dame Sid sending a birthday shout-out to Craig Dennison.
Go Jayhawks.
He does not in...
What happened?
Eric missed it.
Whoops.
I got it.
Saved it.
Saved it.
It's on the list.
Okay, good.
Good work.
Trevor Stassik in Mesa, Arizona.
What's he saying here?
That Platinum is good.
But don't drink much of it.
You can't drink.
Sir Dr.
Sharkey, our buddy in Jackson, Tennessee, 55-34.
We had...
Very short number of...
One double nickels on the dime from Graham Wolfe from Wichita, Kansas.
Yeah, Graham Wolfe, Wichita, Kansas.
David Alston in Yukon, Oklahoma.
He needs a dedouching.
We'll put a dedouching on the end of the list.
51-50.
Chasen Rodilski in Saskatoon, the Paris of Canada.
Thomas Nussbaum again.
Oh-ho.
Oh, that's because, yeah, we brought in the, right, this is, he actually contributes a couple times a month, 50-33.
Christopher Yagi in Kanata, Ontario, David Overbeck in Brookfield, Wisconsin, 50-33.
These are all 50-33s.
It's for my birthday.
Thank you all very much.
Yes.
Carryovers.
Yeah.
David Overbeck in Brookfield, Wisconsin.
Baroness Tanya Wayman in New York City, which I have to check and see if their box is still working.
Hello, darling.
Sling box.
David Marchi in Sunnyvale.
Thanks for clarifying that.
I had to, I'm sorry.
Brian Massey in Hartford, Connecticut.
Because you have a dirty mind.
Damon Allian.
What do you think this one is?
Allian.
Well, you know, you were the one that told me that the president sets the tone.
Bill Clinton made blowjobs okay.
President Obama made tan suits okay.
Joe Biden has made drinking on the job okay.
So I'm all for it.
He's not the president.
True.
That's a mistake you just made.
You're right.
I'm right.
I'm sorry.
You're right.
I will not do that.
Okay, Damien, Elaine, A-L-L-E-Y-N-E, I guess.
Bridgetown, St.
Philip, Barbados.
Aileen.
Damien, Aileen.
That's nice.
We got a Barbados, finally.
Nice.
We got a place to stay.
Morgan and Bo in Dingley Village.
No, we know the ambassador of Barbados.
What are you talking about?
He's the ambassador to Barbados?
No, we know the ambassador, whatever he is.
Mayor or something.
Yeah, we know the ambassador.
We can go hang out whenever we want.
Judson Noel in Oxford, Mississippi.
Very nice place, by the way.
Chris Terhart.
Terhart.
Terhart.
I would say Terhart, perhaps.
Chris Bouton.
Let me just move this thing down a little bit.
Yeah, you can move that thing down.
Yeah, now I've got to move it back up.
I'll move it up.
Sorry.
Chris Bolton in Newcastle on Lime in Staffordshire, UK. Thank you, UK. Joshua Dennis in Arrington, BC. Whitney Jacobs, you know, Whitney in El Cajon, sometime known as El Cajoni.
Matthew Matthew Halley in Quebec, Gatineau.
Eddie Martin in Morrow, Georgia.
And Jason Schrader in Greensboro, South Carolina.
Michael Cross in Kanata, Ontario, Canada.
Richard Donovan in Richmond, UK. And finally, for your birthday, Sir Inside Job in Seattle.
Now we move on to Jeff Kenyon, $50.21 from Klontarf.
I believe that that may have been a 50-33, but because he's from Queensland, Australia, maybe something happened to the rate.
Could be.
I'll accept that as a birthday for me.
And we can have a birthday call out.
Yeah.
This one definitely wasn't, which is Steve Winslow in Bristol, UK. These are all $50 donors.
Eric Dutro in Flint, Michigan.
Fine town.
Ron Cedario in Tampa, Florida.
Matthew Stevens in North Richland Hills, Texas.
Christopher Walker, parts unknown.
Patrick Mackom, who's a Every month, donor.
Long Island City, New York.
James Butcher in Dal Wallinu in Western Australia, 50.
John McGinnis in Dingley Village, Victorian, but apparently he also lives in Ringwood East.
So he comes in twice.
That's a definition of a drunk donation right there.
Oh, I forget.
Did I do that?
Let me try this PayPal.
I think he just donates twice a month.
I love you, John.
Thank you.
Mark Raley in Germantown, Maryland.
Philip Misan in Welshpool, UK. And finally, Eric Mann in Spring Hill, Florida.
Sokovi, Alexander Sokovi.
That's right.
And Moscow.
John Strag in San Antonio, Texas.
Bogdan LeCendro, the best name of all these, in Irvine, Texas.
And finally, Brian Watson in Raleigh, North Carolina.
Oh, and our anonymous lesbian came in with another note, which I also lost that, but it was a very pleasant note.
Let me guess.
Hi, anonymous lesbian here.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
John have a crush on you.
Blah, blah, blah.
Violin.
Blah, blah, blah.
Adam.
No, it was much more pedestrian than that, but it still says sanity on her chair, which I think is cool.
Well, and thank you.
Thank you for appreciating what we do.
This is our model.
It's our motto.
It's how we...
It's how we make this happen.
No podcast, one platform, digital schmuckin' lockin', less the same units, more money.
No, no, none of that.
And as you see, even the guys who really make the money, they know they can do it the way they want to do it.
It doesn't work.
The compromise.
Thank you very much.
Thank you for understanding.
Thank you for being a part of our global intelligence network.
Thank you for producing the program.
It is really, really highly appreciated.
And we're going to be doing more of these road shows.
I'm very excited about it.
I think, although this is the show I wish I would have been home, because I'm kind of done.
I don't really have any more global intelligence to collect from here, except, you know...
So you're good for...
If you're traveling...
I know when I travel, I can only take it so long.
Sure, I do a quick study, I go around, run around like crazy, do as much as I can, and I get out of there.
At what point do you run out of...
When does it become less interesting?
Ten days.
Ten days.
You can handle ten days.
When I return on Tuesday, it'll be two weeks.
So ten days.
But the way it works with travel and the show, I believe it is good to go back and have all the time ready to do more analysis and deeper work for the Thursday show.
I just have a couple more.
I just have an extra day, really.
Yeah.
But there's all, you know, Amsterdam, this is what we have.
But it's a different type of show.
I think it's good people like it very much.
They like a different perspective.
So I'm very excited about where we'll go next, which I don't know.
But we're definitely going to be working on, and this will be mainly in conjunction with Miss Mickey's work as well, which is handy.
So you can get us around.
Right.
Thank you all very much.
Oh, I have the big karma for everybody.
Was there an F cancer karma request?
I'm going to put it in there.
No, it was a job, but we need jobs.
We also had a dedouching request.
Right.
But I'll do the dedouching, but also the F cancer, because there's certainly people around these parts that need a lot of help.
You've been de-douched. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
You saw.
How much?
Dvorak.org slash N-A.
It's a birthday, birthday.
I'm so much.
And for today, we congratulate Simon, who celebrated on September 5th, courtesy of Anonymous.
Ed von Dyke, I believe it is, or yeah, it says duck here, but I'm pretty sure it was from Dyke.
He says happy birthday to his brother Rob, celebrating on the 9th.
Jeff Kenyon, happy birthday to his son Jake Kenyon, turning 21 tomorrow.
And on the 8th, Rui Salgado, 29 today.
Jennifer Dupras says happy birthday to her boyfriend, Ron Cedario, celebrating on the 12th of September.
And Sir Nussbaum, St.
Nicole, and Dame Sid sending a birthday shout-out to Sir Craig Denison.
Go Jayhawks!
And happy birthday from all your friends here, the staff, management, and the Global Intelligence Network of the best podcasts in the universe.
Huh.
That is pretty much all the jocking I can do.
Yeah, well, that was pretty good.
I do like doing it.
But no nightings today.
None of that.
There will be no fun that way whatsoever.
However, however, however, however, we do...
Oh, hold on.
Let me get rid of all these.
We do need to talk about a few things, and I will put us onto the right track here.
Let me see.
Do I have this?
Yes.
Oh, mighty Isis!
We are here, hashtag America, near our hashtag target.
Soon.
That's right.
ISIS is coming to you.
They're bringing it to America.
They're coming anywhere.
CNN is just all over this.
They had a nice little piece, long piece.
Cut it down.
Cut that down.
Man on the street.
Always good to have some man-on-the-street stuff when you're worried about ISIS and being attacked in America.
Because public should really be the source of all knowledge.
Yes.
Just ask a guy walking down the street.
Doesn't even follow the news, but ask him anyway.
Even better if you find an Australian visiting.
Ask that person, yeah.
So three people, man-on-the-street.
This is fear porn, brought to you by CNN, who I think...
They're on a good track for ratings.
They know what they're doing.
I haven't checked them in a while, but I have a feeling that this has Jeff Zucker written all over it.
This ISIS group, they're smarter.
Probably the most evolved terrorist group we've ever seen.
What?
By the way, get the gay guy to say this ISIS group is the most sophisticated group we've ever seen.
What?
Yes.
They're smarter?
Yes.
This ISIS group, they're smarter.
Probably the most evolved terrorist group we've ever seen.
Don't you love it?
They're smarter.
Come on, we've seen this.
The most sophisticated terrorist group we've ever seen.
I am concerned, but I don't think we can gauge where it'll be or when it'll be.
The fact that we are still in an active time of war, I think you have to be careful.
With less than one week before the anniversary of the 9-11 attacks...
See, you knew that was coming, right?
We have to throw that.
We've got to get everyone a little crazy.
Get you hyped up, 9-11.
Woo, crazy, crazy, crazy.
New York City.
Is the U.S. in a position to prevent another attack?
The FBI has 80 offices outside the United States.
FBI show talking, obviously.
They're in constant contact with their counterparts and trying to see if anybody anywhere is picking up anything about a possible attack.
One potential threat, the seemingly increasing number of terrorists now with Western passports.
I love that.
Do you remember that Muhammad Atta had, I don't know, a U.S. passport?
This is nothing new, but okay.
But according to experts, there's an even greater imminent concern.
Imminence!
Imminence!
Even though ISIS has never carried out an attack in the West, some experts believe it would not tread on Al-Qaeda's 9-11 date because its leader, al-Baghdadi, wouldn't want to.
He's very narcissistic, and many believe that he may not want to.
He's narcissistic.
He doesn't want to do anything on 9-11.
He wants his own day.
If he's narcissistic, why do we only have two crappy pictures of him?
I do an attack on 9-11's anniversary.
Because...
He has not been infected by the selfie meme, clearly.
Very good point, John.
I like that.
How does 9-11 date?
Because its leader, al-Baghdadi, wouldn't want to.
He's very narcissistic, and many believe that he may not want to do an attack on 9-11's anniversary because of being in competition with the legacy of Osama bin Laden.
He wants his own legacy.
He wants to be regarded as the biggest, baddest.
This is FBI. This is just making clap up.
Yeah.
Yes.
Terrorists that ever lived.
But experts say that doesn't mean locations aren't vulnerable now.
That's right.
Especially those that draw large crowds.
Because the ideology, experts say, is like a germ.
You can't control it.
You can't quarantine an idea that's spread over thousands of websites, YouTube, and others.
Here it comes.
Unlawful content.
On the internet.
There's no real ability to prevent that message from being spread.
Neutrality will solve that problem.
Now, something you said earlier about the threat of the immigrants coming in across the border...
Which was echoed by my friend, the constitutional lawyer in Texas, my friend Eric, who said, I'm afraid of the crazy Muslims coming into the Mexican border.
He's a smart man.
The man is a constitutional lawyer.
He's one of the smartest people I know, just like the smart terrorists.
And he is falling for this...
Do you remember?
When they can just waltz in with a visa...
Anyway, to take a vacation, where would they have to go through the miserable trouble of coming across the Rio Grande?
Why even try to rationalize this?
When someone with multiple law degrees, very successful constitutional law practice, very successful, is so easily duped, So easily duped.
I mean, he's duped.
He's duped.
So he really believes that they're coming into Texas, the crazy Muslim ISIS, and now Don Lemon...
We'll help everyone.
Don Lemon.
Don Lemon found a Texas sheriff who was willing to go along with the here they come or they're here, whatever.
So if you live here in New York or if you've been here in the subway system, the road passengers are constantly warned, if you see something, say something.
If you see something, say something.
That's the jingle.
They never want to license it from us, but okay, fine.
Every one of us has to be on our toes.
On our toes.
Are you on your toes, Johnny?
Are you on your toes?
Actually, no.
I'm not on my toes at the moment.
What does that even mean?
I can't be on my toes.
It doesn't make sense.
What does that mean, on your toes?
You should be on your toes.
What is the etymology?
It's like when you're on your toes, you're ready to make a move.
Is that really what it means?
It refers to sports.
On Your Toes?
Well, it's good work, my friend.
On Your Toes, a musical with a book by Rogers, Abbott, and Hart.
While teaching...
This is not a background.
On Your Toes, originally conceived as a film, as a vehicle for Fred Astaire.
Where do we understand how this has anything to do with terrorism?
It just is.
Don't question authority.
Just go with it.
And one Texas sheriff says he is ready for ISIS. We're joined now by Sheriff Gary.
The guy's got a hat on.
He's got the hat.
He's got the star.
He's got everything.
He's ready for ISIS. He's ready for ISIS. County, Texas.
Good evening, Sheriff.
Good evening.
Good evening, Noel.
Good evening, Harry.
How are you?
How are you, son?
I'm sorry, did I call you son or boy?
I forgot.
This is perfect.
Central casting.
Great.
I hope you're great as well.
You have said that you want to be ready in case of an attack by ISIS or by any other terror group.
What's your biggest concern?
Well, the fact that they're already here.
They're already here.
The fact that they're already here.
They're already here.
I worked the border for about eight years.
There's places on the border that you can walk across the upriver from Presidio.
There's no water in the river.
That's right.
You just walk right through.
You just come on with your black outfit and your white sneakers and your toy odors.
You come over here beheading people.
There's no fences.
There's nothing.
Nothing.
No fence.
No nothing.
They come in here with their machete, their little pencil knives, they beheading people in orange jumpsuits.
To keep you out.
And we've got, what, 10 to 15 million that are undocumented aliens that are inside the United States.
All of them could be terrorists.
Every single one of them, 10 to 15 million undocumented aliens could be ISIS. And there's no doubt that there have been some people come in that should not be here that are from places other than Mexico or Hispanic States.
That's right.
Be afraid.
See something, say something.
Be on your toes, people.
Be on your toes, I tell you.
This is so disgusting.
But this is the report I like.
The report about Twitter.
And this is interesting for a number of reasons.
One, because Twitter...
And you were complaining just before the show started, John.
Even though it wasn't correct.
But what came up...
And this is kind of tech news.
Tech news.
We do have a lot of phones coming out this week, so it'll be an exciting week for Tech News.
Oh yeah, it's going to be great.
iPhone.
A lot of phones coming out.
Great, great, great.
So Twitter is putting everyone on notice.
They've already started by adding things to your timeline that you are not subscribed to.
And of course the next step will be an algorithm.
It's not a timeline, it's a feed.
They call it the timeline.
They do?
I believe so.
I don't think so.
I have the, oh, you think they call it a feed?
I think they call it anything, but a timeline is a Facebook term.
Let me, here is the Wall Street Journal.
Do you think the Wall Street Journal is any good at all?
No.
Okay.
The Wall Street Journal, Twitter hints, puts, I'm sorry, restatement.
Twitter puts the timeline on notice and hints of group chats.
Let me see if there is a quote from...
There's a timeline on notice.
That means they put the timeline of this book.
Yeah, I don't think so.
I think they...
Well, just by...
This is obviously a PR piece.
A PR company put this together.
Who is this?
Yori Koh, K-O-H. We think Yori Koh just came up with this?
Yori Koh got fed this by some promotional person.
On Wednesday...
Was he from the country of America?
No, I don't know.
On Wednesday, financial chief Anthony Noto...
Offered some clues for Twitter's product roadmap as the company looks to jumpstart user growth.
Speaking at the City Global Growth Conference in New York, which I apologize, I did not go look.
I will do this for Thursday.
Said the company's new head of product, Daniel Graff, has made improved...
Has made improving the service's search capability one of his top priorities for 2015.
Quote, If you think about our search capabilities, we have a great data set of topical information about topical tweets, Noto said.
The hierarchy within search really has to lend itself to that taxonomy.
Taxonomy.
Whatever.
If you're just saying Google, we're coming.
With that comes the need for, quote, an algorithm that delivers the depth and breadth of the content we have on a specific topic and then eventually as it relates to people.
Okay.
Twitter's timeline is organized in reverse chronological order.
So the Wall Street Journal is writing, I don't think they actually said it themselves.
You're correct.
But they talk about, they are comparing Twitter to Facebook for this very reason.
Okay.
But Twitter, I think Twitter, they're completely stupid, although this is probably a good idea because they need to start injecting government propaganda into your feed.
We'll call it a feed.
Once in a while, I do get something that's not from anybody I wanted to follow.
And it wasn't from a retweet.
What the claim is is that they will be also developing an algorithm which only Robert Scoble will be able to figure out to make it work by whatever you have to do, favoriting, whatever their version of liking is, RTing.
But of course, Twitter is now part of all government's infrastructure and is probably...
A long bet for the stock market.
There is no way Twitter is ever going to go.
Facebook will have issues.
Twitter, I think they solidified their existence with what they are now doing.
Here's a little news report from CNN. This is all you need to know.
Buy.
That's a buy signal right there.
Once just a social network, Twitter's become a platform where democracies are born, dictatorships overthrown.
Demonstrations that began over Facebook and Twitter take you on a life of their own.
Isn't it fascinating how a company that can, that dictatorships are, countries are overthrown, but yet they can't make a dollar?
What is, how can they not make any profit?
But during a summer of strife, it's gone from carrying the message to defining it.
When ISIS broadcast the gruesome beheading of an American journalist on Twitter, the social network's CEO took a rare stance, vowing to suspend any account posting that video.
Oh boy, because God forbid we see how fake the video is.
Twitter also pointed to their rules prohibiting unlawful use and direct specific threats of violence against others.
There's your unlawful, not illegal, unlawful.
These words are important.
This is the unlawful content and unlawful traffic that will become a part of making this rally.
They're going to suspend any account if somebody puts that video on their feed?
Yep.
The tech company, acting more like a news organization, an evolution of sorts from a free-for-all virtual soapbox to one that's more controlled, becoming more aggressive in what its members see and suspending accounts associated with ISIS. Over the past 10 days, there's been a purging of accounts, of Twitter accounts used by ISIS members, and so we've seen at least a short-term reduction for now.
As the line between Twitter as a tech company and media platform blur, terrorists have taken note.
Their recruitment videos, once crude, are now more polished.
They're now in HD. Even cable news style text at the bottom of the screen.
They aim to spread a well-produced message on Twitter and other social networks.
There's an inherent link between I don't know who this is, but this is the type of expert CNN now put on the air through Skype.
Terrorism in the media.
Terrorists use the media in order to help spread terror throughout the broader population.
ISIS, I think, is particularly savvy with the media.
As the content evolves, the tech company that many would call a media company continues to evolve as well.
This is perfect.
So while everybody thinks that we're getting rid of ISIS because the tech company knows what they're doing, we're really propagating the true terrorist message.
We are here, hashtag America, near our hashtag target.
Soon.
Be afraid, hashtag America.
It's disheartening.
By the way, that clip is a great clip.
Yeah, but it's not clip of the day.
No, no, not that clip.
I'm talking about the clip that you keep playing over and over about Hashtag America.
That's a clip of forever.
That thing is just a clip of forever.
That's a great evergreen clip.
Are you down with the tech news?
No, I'm not done with tech news.
We have two more pieces of tech news.
Here's what I have.
You tell me if you're interested.
One, the Spotify CEO saying that musicians were going to make a lot of money with Spotify.
I'm sorry, Spot-A-Lie is what I'm calling the company now.
Spot-A-Lie.
Hey!
Ring the bell.
Do you want to hear him?
Not that interesting.
No.
Then I have the IKEA Book Book commercial, which I thought was very cute.
You probably saw that.
What?
The IKEA Book Book commercial.
Book Book?
Oh, you didn't see this?
No.
Oh, this is great.
Well, the audio is...
You don't see...
You don't really get the full effect with the audio, but what they are promoting here in an Apple-esque type commercial is their IKEA 2015 catalog, which is a book.
And here's the commercial that goes along with it.
You can imagine what the visuals are.
I'm sorry, I just got rid of it.
Here it comes.
You know, once in a while, something comes along that changes the way we live.
A device so simple and intuitive, using it feels almost familiar.
Introducing the 2015 IKEA catalog.
It's not a digital book or an e-book.
It's a book book.
The first thing to note is no cables.
Not even a power cable.
The 2015 IKEA catalog comes fully charged, and the battery life is eternal.
Are you able to hear this?
I don't find the audio that great to listen to.
Yeah, I can hear it.
I get it.
It's a funny, funny joke that's probably been done a million times.
This one has not been done a million times, and I won't play it to annoy you any further.
But when they get to the part...
Where they're talking about how the interface works.
This one's written better than anything I've seen in this genre of joking about books versus E. They're saying, oh, you swipe from right to left or left to right.
Have you noticed this one thing?
No lag.
All the pictures are instantaneous in full HD color.
It's not bad.
It's cute, yeah.
I've probably written that column Sure.
Five times.
This is why you're mad about it.
I get it.
Well, I'm mad about it because you obviously never read any of those hilarious columns.
I will say I didn't do the lag joke.
I haven't done that.
The lag joke was good.
I like the battery with the eternal battery life.
I like the multi-user.
They insert little colored bookmark tabs.
And then sharing.
You actually share.
You see the hands handing the book over.
You know, you haven't written this one in the era of social networking, I'm presuming.
You've written this one many times.
Probably right.
So you can be a little mad.
Because this is, I agree, this is your beat.
And think about the writers of this commercial.
I'm not sure which ad agency did it, but they got hookers and blow right now.
This thing is viral.
Yeah, yeah, they probably did okay for themselves.
So you're a little mad about that.
That's okay.
Yeah, I am.
Agenda 21, climate change?
Anybody?
I have something I'm more mad about and I want to play it first.
Let's do it.
You can go to Agenda 21.
This is the most irksome thing I've heard.
And the fact that the entire news organization that relayed this story wasn't up in arms.
But this is the future of the scam we call Obamacare.
And force us to buy insurance.
This is the Gilead, 84,000...
Do you want to explain, or is this all you need?
Just play it.
Gilead Sciences is reportedly close to making a generic version of its $84,000 drug, and that is where we begin tonight's Market Focus.
The drug, called Sovaldi, cures about 90% of patients with hepatitis C who take it.
But its high cost has stirred controversy.
The company is said to be close to a licensing deal that would allow a lower-cost version of the drug to be sold in about 80 developing countries, but not here in the U.S. Does anybody find this just disturbing and annoying and disgusting?
I got hepatitis C. Hey, we have a drug for you.
It's going to cost you $84,000.
Yeah.
And the generic version, by the way, will probably be $60,000.
What is this?
Is that for one pill?
You should be arrested.
Is that for one pill?
Or what is that?
Yeah, I guess.
Or the treatment, maybe.
Maybe two pills.
It's ludicrous.
And then they're going to make it for the poor countries and everywhere else they're going to get a deal and we get no deal.
Deal, no deal.
We get no deal.
No, you'd have to go to Mexico to get your deal.
That's pretty bad.
That is...
I gotta hand that one to you.
That's pretty bad.
But you know what we have here?
Whoa, what is that?
Well, that was weird.
Yep.
Sorry.
Are you still there?
What?
I didn't say anything.
No, I did.
I said weird.
You said weird.
Yeah, I said weird.
That was not good.
Let's roll this one out for a second.
Let's talk some more about Common Core.
Trying to get Common Core out there.
Getting everybody all pumped up about how cool it is.
There's a local campaign that has...
It's...
I believe these are packages that are produced in some cases on a national level, but it seems like every local station has their own version of it.
I'm not sure if somehow...
It's all the same, but if all these...
I'm not sure how it works.
I've got to figure out who's behind this.
These are the Common Core Helper.
I think there's a website for it, too.
Hold on a second.
Just a bag of rice, it turns out.
A bag of rice?
What?
Yeah, hamburger helper is just essentially a bag of rice.
Oh, yeah, a bag of rice.
So, it's the Common Core Helper video series.
Then here is one.
This is an example of one of these news reports.
I'm seeing them show up everywhere.
People are like, oh, take a look at this.
But they're all on a local level, and they have the local math expert or teaching expert.
Yeah, these are those advanced packages that you produce in some central location, and you drop your own little bits in there.
Here you go.
And today, our math teacher, Eileen Ryan from Williamsville's Maple West Elementary, teaches us basic math using a base 10.
When you and I were in school, we used to just memorize 9 plus 6 equals 15.
Not anymore.
With the Common Core, students need to understand why that's the case, and Mrs.
Ryan is here to explain.
Thank you.
So, our young learners might not be altogether comfortable thinking about what 9 plus 6 is.
They are quite comfortable thinking about their friend 10.
Okay, John, are you ready?
You'll want a pencil for this.
No, you're going to make me sick.
You will want to have your pencil for your friend 10.
Are you ready?
Oh my god.
The thinking behind this campaign is to enable parents to understand the new Common Core methodology that their children are coming home with because they just really don't understand it.
Well, the problem has been these kids are taught the weirdest stuff that makes no sense.
I don't know if it's weird.
Weirdest is not the same.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
I'm sorry about the sniffing, by the way.
This is like my latest Tourette's thing.
You got me three.
You got me three times today.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Do you hear what I said?
You're by sniffing.
Yeah, I have a sniffing.
No, I have a sniffing.
It's like a Tourette's tick that I have now.
I'm trying to sniff, but not break the noise gate.
It's stupid.
I'm trying to...
I'm working on it.
Well, it's not bothering me, whatever it is.
Okay.
Anyway, the parents get this stuff and they say, no, Jimmy, just look, nine by six, you got nine items here and you got six, put them all together, it's 15.
You can count them.
No, they won't let the parents do any teaching at home.
This is, to me, I'm starting to see this differently.
I'm starting to see Common Core as a way to break the back of homeschoolers.
Oh, that's an interesting observation.
Besides the fact that there's hundreds of millions of dollars to be made in complete new curriculum and all kinds of other bulls.
It does not contribute to this fund.
Here we go.
Of course, students need to understand why that's the case, and Mrs.
Ryan is here to explain.
Thank you.
So, our young learners might not be altogether comfortable thinking about what 9 plus 6 is.
They are quite comfortable thinking about their friend 10.
Oh, they're not.
Okay.
My invisible friend, Tan.
You're what?
My invisible friend, Tan, is here with me.
10 is emphasized in our young grades as we're working in a base 10 system.
A base 10 system, John.
Have you ever heard of such malarkey?
So if we can partner 9 to a number and anchor 10, we can help our students see what 9 plus 6 is.
So we're going to decompose our 6.
Decompose?
Is it on the garbage heap?
Is it a smoldering mildew?
Like a banana peel, just all black and full of fuzzy hair?
9 plus 6 is...
So we're going to decompose our six.
And we know six is made up of parts.
One of its parts is a one.
Six is made up of parts, John.
Did you know that one of its parts is one?
Huh, never knew that.
And the other part is a five.
No, okay.
Really?
What happened to the two?
It's also made a two and a three.
I think it's a two and a three is how I think of the five.
Yeah, there's a three and there's another three and that's a six or a two, two, two is a six.
Yes.
So what happened to those?
Why were they left out?
They're not your friends.
They're not your friends, my friend.
We're now going to anchor our...
We're going to anchor.
Be quiet, you.
Hey, Dvorak.
Last row.
Be quiet.
You're disrupting the class.
We're going to anchor something.
This is made up of parts.
One of its parts is a one and the other part is a five.
We're now going to anchor our 9 to a 1, allowing our students to anchor to that 10.
Now our students are seeing that we have 10 plus 5.
Having now more comfort seeing that 10 plus 5 is 15.
That's much more comfortable than looking at 9 plus 6, an isolated math fact.
Isolated math fact.
one two three four five six seven eight that's right
I wonder how she deals with 246 plus 632 - Two.
Do you take a one away from that and try to find the tens?
How do you do this?
That is Clip of the Day.
Really?
Even though it is annoying, but I'll give it to you.
Really?
I get Clip of the Day?
Yes, for that.
Anything Common Core usually gets Clip of the Day.
Well, that's very kind of, yes.
Clip of the Day.
You know what you get?
This show has been going on forever.
It's time to go.
Do you know what you get when you have an entire population raised on Common Core?
Rottencore.
No, you get Al Sharpton on television.
Thanks to you, Ed.
Is this Crown Hog Day 2?
We are watching That Was Attorney General Eric Holden ADDs about some Republicans at home.
Already beating the drums of war.
Today, the Pentagon refuted that claim.
The Pentagon.
And he said the American people do not want him to quote, they do not want him dwindling his thumbs.
Don't dwindle your thumbs.
You can get a gig as a contortionist.
Intravenous fluids and pills coated with gelatin.
Gelatin.
We don't leave our women or men in uniform behind.
It's a monument to the hubris of Dick Cheney.
Representative Raul Ara Labrador.
Years of abuse.
I personally apologize to Mr.
Peavis.
Just ask to soon-to-be former congressman.
Democrats are outright jiddy.
Jiddy.
CIA's counter and counter tourism, counter terrorism.
Counter tourism job.
Center.
Veteran Affairs Secretary Shinsketti.
Why do I always mess up his name?
I love my critics.
I have fun with that.
Oh yeah.
Your critics.
Normal people who speak English.
Counter tourism.
I'm glad people are finally clipping that stuff.
This is a whole video series now.
This is Al Sharpton versus the teleprompter.
Yeah, I know.
Outstanding.
It's very good work.
It's really, really good.
It's about time it's done.
The only thing I have, which I could save until Thursday, but I'm a little worried because we have the big...
Global Climate Summit 2014 coming up.
This is the big one.
What day is it coming up?
September 23rd.
You don't need to rush and do it.
Yeah, I need to do two parts.
I really do need to do two things.
Alright, well let's do that because I have some stuff too, but I'm going to put it off.
Do you want to do one thing?
You want to just do one thing just to make you feel good?
I got my AQ India.
I think this is the most important thing going on.
Because we know that India is being targeted by us.
Being teed up.
I've already predicted the Ebola thing, but apparently now the terrorists are going after him with a bullcrap story, AQ India.
The government of India placed parts of the country on alert today after Al-Qaeda announced that it is expanding into the subcontinent.
The group's leader, Ayman al-Zawwari, issued a videotaped message.
My Muslim brothers everywhere, I announce to all Muslims in the world, and especially in the Indian subcontinent, the founding of a new branch.
This is to help raise the flag of jihad and the return of the Islamic rule in the subcontinent.
Al-Zawari charged that Muslims in India have long been subject to injustice and oppression by the Hindu majority.
Al-Qaeda has recently been overshadowed by the Islamic State, an offshoot with brutal tactics, and which broke ties with the main group last year.
I think they're not doing it right.
They don't know what they're doing.
Listen to the story here in the Netherlands.
They now speak of the Dutch Jihad belt.
They have a jihad belt.
A jihad belt?
Yes, a belt.
Is that something you wear?
No, it's like the Bible belt.
And in the Netherlands they're using the English words jihad belt.
Well, where's the jihad belt?
Well, it's three different regions.
It's the southwest, with the jihadists from The Hague and Rotterdam, Amsterdam, Delft, Soetamir, and Gouda.
Then they have a regional network, which is Arnhem and Nijmegen.
And in the middle of the country, they have the jihadists and the sympathizers from Utrecht, Almere, Hilversum, Zijs en Huizen.
This is just called Gitmo Nation jihadis, man.
Everyone here is just a jihadist.
Well, they should do something about it.
I'm doing nothing.
You should have a jihad there.
In Texas...
Is there a jihad belt in Texas?
No, but there was a dude arrested who had an ISIS flag on the back of his jacket.
Yes.
Well, the joke, of course, is that ISIS flag is just stolen.
No, it's a raider's flag, we know.
Besides being a raider's flag, it's a traditional Islamic flag that just is a general flag.
ISIS didn't even design their own flag.
That's not a specifically new flag.
No, it's a dumb flag.
It's an old flag.
It's not even a good flag.
No, it looks like a raider's flag.
If we had to make a flag, we wouldn't make that flag.
No, no, I'd put the Raider in the middle.
Sir Devin of the Denver Metro Foothills says, you guys are spot on regarding the farcical beheadings by ISIS, ISIL, IS advertising, whatever you want to call it.
He says, why don't we try to rebrand them As the Arab super sinister head attacking terrorists or the all-star super heinous attack team instead of ISIL or ISIS. I thought that was a good one.
It took me a while to figure it out, but when I had it, I liked it.
I liked it.
Yeah, the problem is the government is behind this thing somehow.
That's why we can't have any fun.
And I guarantee there's a Raider fan involved.
We can't have any fun with those guys.
All right, so...
Final...
I have to do this because we have this big thing coming up.
It's the new IPCC report.
Everyone will be talking about it.
This is what Obama promised.
And there's a movie that just came out, Disruption the Movie, which will make you...
Just bile will rise in your throat.
I need to play the opening minute and a half of this movie, which is available online, of course.
It's from the 350.org people.
No, 350.
This is completely rife with all kinds of, in my mind, criminal activity, stealing money from people under lies.
And just imagine fear, porn, things burning, icebergs crashing, kittens being chopped off, their heads being chopped off and sodomized.
Everything you could imagine that's horrible is in the visuals of this audio.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, I'm having a motion.
The water slides very quickly.
Hold on.
I'm going to need to get out of here.
We're seeing New York exploding.
Are you all right?
Okay?
There is new and dramatic evidence of what's happening to our world.
And tonight we'll look at the impact already being felt.
Red flags about extreme weather we've all endured together all across the globe.
We are literally engaged in an unprecedented experiment with the one planet that we know of that can support life.
We will respond to the threat of climate change, knowing that the failure to do so would betray our children and future generations.
The big question mark is the future, of course, and a new kind of normal.
Things are gearing up for the UN-hosted climate change summit in New York.
UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon will host the summit.
I will convene a climate summit for leaders at the highest level.
I urge political leaders of the world to prioritize their political energy on climate change.
We have to get serious about bringing real commitments to the table for that summit.
If things go business as usual, we will not live.
We will die.
Well, you kind of get the idea there.
What did that guy say at the end?
He thinks, do you do business as usual?
We will die?
We will die.
Oh, yeah.
This is complete, complete super porn for the fearful.
Now, and you will recall Ban Ki-moon called for this.
I think it was from Davos, or we had clips of him talking about the September 23rd, and that's when Al Gore was on stage talking all this bull crap.
And what I found interesting is in those clips with Ban Ki-moon, the Secretary General of the United Nations, Christine Lagarde, the current director, head honcho of the IMF, the International Monetary Fund, is standing next to him.
I've noticed now her uniform.
She has an orange shawl, kind of like a scarf, which she has tossed over her right shoulder.
Which is like some kind of military garb or something.
Because, of course, she has no military standing.
She has no royalty standing.
It's a sash.
It's kind of like a sash, but it's orange and she has it tossed over her right.
You can Google pictures and you'll see that she does this.
It is so pathetic how this woman needs to be of stature so she can stand next to people and be her own royalty.
It's just sad.
Then we have Kerry.
Watermelon had big doofus goofball Kerry who abused the most recent NATO summit to talk about climate change and to invoke or evoke religion as being a religious duty to fight climate change.
Because it's in the Bible, my friend.
Our fates are inextricably linked.
On any number of things that we must confront and deal with in policy concepts today.
Our fates are inextricably linked on the environment.
I think he also doesn't know how to say inextricably.
I think he has a problem with this word.
He has a problem with this word.
For many of us, respect for God's creation also translates into a duty to protect and sustain his first creation, Earth, the planet.
Before God created man, he created heavens and earth.
Confronting climate change is in the long run one of the greatest challenges that we face.
I find this to be a fascinating bridge between creationism and science.
It's mind-boggling what he is attempting to do.
What is the point of it?
And it's all bullcrap anyway, the way he's presenting it.
Well, let's listen to the last 20 seconds and then we'll do it.
Look, we're the only people in the known universe who listen to what these morons are saying.
I know it's irksome.
I know you're mad.
No, no, no, no, no.
And you can see this duty or responsibility laid out in scriptures.
Okay.
Clearly.
I was reading in my Bible, in the Koran yesterday, as I was leafing through it.
Beginning in Genesis.
I'm sorry, I mean the Old Testament.
Genesis?
He's going to bring in Genesis and the Old Testament.
This one should be a winner.
And Muslim-majority countries are among the most vulnerable.
He goes from Genesis to Muslim- What?
He doesn't give any scripture.
What did he just say?
He just said, Genesis, Muslim-majority countries.
Just listen to him.
Our response to this challenge ought to be rooted in a sense of stewardship of Earth.
And for me and for many of us here today, that responsibility comes from God.
That's right.
That responsibility comes from God.
Yahweh.
Jah.
The Almighty.
What is he angling for here?
Trying to get the Christians on board?
I guess.
Muslims on board?
Who's he trying to get on board?
Jews?
Anything to get people to believe in the next report from the IPCC. And this is my final bit.
This has now happened in Europe.
There was an article that I read that was complaining.
I think it was Grand Duke Steven Pelsmakers who sent me this.
that a Belgian newscaster or someone related to the newscast was complaining that the government or the climate change faction of whoever's in charge of that scam in Belgium had requested, nay, perhaps forced the newscaster, a famous newscaster, to record a newscast as if it is 2050.
And of course, the whole planet is on fire and we're flooded and everything's underwater and we're all dying from the climate change.
And remember, 23rd of September is when we have this new global climate change conference called out by Bunky Moon and Christine Lagarde with her scarf, which panache is.
Which, of course, is about the monetary aspects of everything.
So they're the ones running this.
Turns out the final product has newscasters from all over the world, well-known voices in multiple languages, and they have all been forced, asked, etc., to do this for this.
And then you clip from that.
Well, they've put together a commercial about climate change.
Miami South Beach is underwater.
The tide is going to come up to about here.
The temperature is expected to rise.
Eleven is living.
This heat wave has now entered the second week.
The mega drought in Arizona has claimed another casualty.
So if you do this...
You are engaging in the lowest, most disgusting, despicable form of propaganda known to man.
And I'm outraged.
You cannot take people who are news personalities who you are supposed to be able to trust and make them say things that are wrong.
If not, not only true, but not true.
But fiction.
The fiction in the future, 2050 is 35 years away from now.
We have no idea, other than that, oops, I'm sorry, the Earth has not warmed for 16 years.
That is universally recognized by the scientists.
To do this, ramp up to this climate change conference, Yeah.
What's the word I'm looking for?
What's the word we used to use for this?
It's unconscionable.
Very good word.
Unconscionable.
I like that.
I'll take that as the word that we need.
Unconscionable.
Well, thank you, Baron, or Grand Duke, I'm sorry, for doing that because that is a disgusting little segment there you put together.
Yes.
How happy are you with that?
Just a head shaker.
Yeah.
And that's where we're at.
We are the guardians of reality.
We attempt to dissect as much as we can.
It's even hard for us sometimes, but we really do try to bring it for you, and I think we've...
We also use the hive mind.
Is that good?
Yeah.
The hive mind, is that a good thing for us to do?
Well, it is for us.
Okay.
It's our intelligence networks, which is another way of putting it.
And the intelligence network is vast and very, very, very sophisticated.
I'm waiting for the black box information to come out, then I'll give us something to talk about.
They're never going to reveal it.
It's not going to happen.
I don't think so either.
There's no good reason to reveal it.
That would only create problems.
The necessary job has been completed.
Exactly.
Well, coming to you from the Wi-Fi-enabled canal house in the pipe in the middle of Amsterdam, for the last time, everybody, in the morning, I am Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I have nothing funny to say.
I don't know why I've been, you know, these depressing, fear-mongering stories are just what they are.
They're depressing.
Very depressing.
But I'll be happy on Thursday.
Somehow.
And then you say...
I'm John C. DeVore.
We'll talk to you on Thursday, right here on No Agenda.
There's no real conflict!
I'm Joe Biden, and thank you for taking the time to listen.
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