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Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Sunday, March 2nd, 2014.
Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 5906.
This is no agenda.
Bracing for more global queuing in FEMA Region 6 here at the Traverse Heights Hideout in Austin, Texas.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's freezing over, I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning.
Mmm, mmm, mmm.
Well, well, well.
I'm glad we're all here at kindergarten with our instruments today.
Sounds great.
That was one of our better concerts, actually.
Yeah, yeah.
I think people would have paid money to see that.
So we had 73 degrees this morning when I got up at 7 o'clock.
Nice and warm.
And it's going to be 28 by the time the show is over.
No.
Yes!
What time will the show be over?
I don't know.
You're a little part of the woods there.
It'll be around 2 o'clock, 2 p.m.
So it's going to drop to 28 degrees by 2 o'clock in the afternoon when the sun is up?
No, there's no sun coming, son.
No sun coming today, Mon.
So wait a minute.
It's 73 now?
No, it was 73 at 7 a.m.
And that was four hours ago.
Now it's down to, we're probably, let me see, we're probably...
What's this all about?
Oh, this is the global cooling.
What do you mean, what is this all about?
Do you ever, hello?
Do you ever listen to this show?
This is, global cooling is coming once again.
It's March.
It's down to, it's 47 degrees now.
So it's 30 degree drop.
But why is it getting so cold?
Where's this cold air coming from?
Alaska?
Canada?
Canada?
Polar vortex.
I don't know.
The polar vortex is now in Texas.
Now playing in Texas.
The best little vortex in Texas.
I'm telling you, everyone's freaking out.
Of course, we're here, we're freaking out.
What?
And it's raining now, so of course that means we'll have black ice everywhere.
Ice, black ice, that's the best.
Yeah.
But it's March, it's March 2nd.
We've been here two years now.
We have not seen this happen in March.
Well, you know, things change.
Yes, of course.
You've been there two years?
Yeah.
Yeah, February, it was February two years ago, so yeah, lower two years.
What do you mean you guess?
What's wrong with that?
I don't know.
It just seems like time's flying.
Oh, I know.
I know.
It does seem like things go a little faster, doesn't it?
Yeah, something's up.
Well, let me tell you this.
I was interviewed by the BBC on Friday.
Yeah?
For the 10th anniversary of podcasting.
Is it the 10th anniversary?
Son, that doesn't add up.
Yes, 2004 is when we first, that was when the first Daily Source codes were on.
Oh, okay.
And when we had the iPod.
Get a plug in, as I care about.
Well, against all of my rules, I did the interview and it's going to be edited.
So, you know what?
Probably not.
You know how they are.
Did they edit out the plug for our show?
Well, I don't know if they have, but it's possible they will, yes.
What BBC is, is radio?
BBC 5?
BBC 6?
No, radio 4.
BBC 4, that's the big one.
That's the Sirius News channel, yeah.
But it was so typical.
Oh, my God.
It's like literally nothing has changed in 10 years.
iTunes is still shit, and the BBC is still going, so what's the future for this?
Do you think there's a future for podcasts?
I say, this is the 10th anniversary.
What are you talking about?
They probably cut me out altogether.
Leave him on the cutting room floor.
I can't be nice in those situations.
I mean, I tried.
I really did.
You know, it's a typical man and woman.
Adam, let me ask you, what do you think is the future of podcasting?
What?
Excuse me, you almost ruined it when Apple threw nothing but NPR and BBC programming everywhere.
I remember how that was quite annoying when they did that.
Yeah.
Well, at least you gave it a shot.
Yeah, yeah, so of course.
They actually said, would you do me a favor?
Would you ID yourself?
And, you know, so you set it up that way.
ID yourself.
And that's my dad.
I'm Adam Curry from the No Agenda Show.
Best podcast in the universe.
Snip.
Can you hear it?
Snip.
And you know it.
And it being, I'm Adam Kerr.
I'm Adam Kerr.
Yeah, that's not good.
Of all the things we could start with today, John, I would like to throw something new out there.
Something new?
By the way, we're two weeks away from an event.
Yeah, this was not here, though.
No, well, there's events.
You're going to be here in two weeks.
Oh, yeah, no, that's our six-week cycle.
Now, I'm talking about this event.
What the authorities are saying is this was a well-organized, premeditated attack, and we can see that by the scale of the attack.
We're talking about a group of men going into a railway station, armed, we think, at the moment, just with knives, and managing to stab more than 100 people.
That does sound quite organized.
In the past, there have been a number of cases where individuals have taken knives and they've attacked people in public places in China, but that's usually people with personal grievances taking them out in a public sphere.
This seems an altogether different story.
The authorities are saying it's a terrorist attack, which suggests that they have at least some suspicions about who's behind it, but they're not saying publicly yet.
Yeah, okay.
So that's the BBC, and we don't hold the BBC in high regard, so we'll tell you what's going on.
You heard about this, right?
Yeah.
This is more evidence that we should have guns.
Because when somebody shoots you in public like this, you hear a sound and you run.
And did you catch the count of...
The silent killer of the evil knives.
They should be banned.
This is the 33 people killed by knife in Xinjiang province.
I hate it when that happens.
One of those numbers.
It just pops up.
But I know what this is about.
And this is, of course, it's no good.
But again, people, you might want to get your map out and take a look at the Xinjiang province.
You're spelling that how?
I'm spelling that X-Ray India November Juliet India Alpha November Gulf.
Xinjiang.
I got the X. If you do X-I-N, I'm sure Google will autocomplete for you, honey.
You go ahead.
I got...
What does Google do with...
It's flirting with me.
Is this Xing Zhang or Xing Zhao or Xing Lin or Xing Dao or Xing Zhao build?
Xing Zhang.
With a J. Yes, J-I-A-N-G. Xing Zhang.
Yes, good.
And what is Xinjiang, if you look at the geographic region?
It is the most western part possible of the Chiners, butting up against all the stands over there.
Yeah, that's one of those places that has Muslim issues.
Yes!
Correctamundo!
And what else do they have in Xinjiang?
Oh, don't worry.
An oil boom.
Yeah, it's the North Dakota of China.
Thank you.
If North Dakota was peopled by Muslims.
Right, yeah.
So this is obviously a terrorist attack, and I can tell you the usual suspects will be behind it.
Because whenever we need to either get something done or stop something, just pull out some Muslim terrorists, boy!
And there you go.
We've got the Muslim terrorists killing people with knives, 33 of them, in the most western, oil-rich province of China.
Which also, there's a little sliver of land there between Afghanistan...
It's so obvious every single time.
And the BBC can't figure it out.
Well, they say it looks like terrorists, but they're being very tight-lipped about it.
I wonder what it could be.
Hello, BBC. That's literally what the guy said.
The authorities are saying it's a terrorist attack, which suggests that they have at least some suspicions about who's behind it, but they're not saying publicly yet.
So we can't figure it out.
Because we don't have Google Maps.
It's really not that hard.
It really isn't.
I think it's interesting that they used this knife.
A hundred people knived.
It may be hard to get the gun thing going there.
Maybe for Chiners it's more terrorizing a knife somehow.
Maybe.
I think if we had a wave of knife killings in America...
Well, you may have spotted a trend.
There may be a wave of knife action.
Yeah, it could be.
That's very possible, actually.
It could be on its way.
Oh, well.
Because, you know, the British have been trying.
Because I think it would be interesting to get the knife thing going as a meme and then do a big anti-knife campaign.
Yeah.
And then make people have to get, like, licenses or special order big knives or chef knives are going to be hard to come by.
Everyone's going to be working with a paring knife.
Bamboo sticks.
Just sharpened bamboo.
I can't cut the meat with this paring knife.
Mommy, my bamboo's not sharp.
I can't cut my steak.
It's okay, honey.
Let me tell you, we're going to start seeing knives.
You know, this, I thought they tried to crank this up a couple years ago in England, this anti-knife thing.
But I think this is the way to go.
A hundred knivings?
Yeah.
Wow.
No, it is.
Well, actually, um, hold on a second.
Were they stabbing people in the gut?
You know what, John?
In the back, in the kidney, in the liver?
What were they doing, stabbing them in the butt, in the leg?
Listen to this.
This is a report from our Scandinavian friends on The Nation.
It's the kind of violence we hear about in the United States.
Oh!
Are you ready?
Canadians!
Do you know what, John?
I think you're right.
Could be.
Not if it was a gun.
Hold on.
Hold on.
New meme alert of the No Agenda Show.
Oh, hell yeah.
It was a gun.
One gunshot would drive people away.
Yeah, that's right, but no.
The big deal about guns is that they've gone out of their way to make silencers incredibly illegal.
It's a felony.
That's right.
And so you can't go like they do in the movies.
It would be cut.
And if you've ever fired a gun or been around someone firing them, you have to wear ear protection because those things are extremely loud.
Very, very loud.
They give a warning signal.
Yeah.
So, well, maybe we could force knife manufacturers for them to make a sound.
Like the clicker you need on an iPhone camera.
Here it is.
Whenever you swipe the blade.
It'd be very difficult to do that.
It's just an aeration thing.
No.
Okay.
There's more to it than that.
Maybe the handle, when you grab the handle, it makes a honking sound.
Like a car horn.
I don't have that sound effect.
No.
Wait, no, I do have one.
Here it is.
I'm going to stick you with my knife!
Here I come!
So if you look up knife attack on the Google, you get the mass stabbing, but you also get...
China attack at the Kooning train station leaves dozens dead.
Is that the same one?
That's the same one.
Okay, separatists were blamed.
33 knife attack.
This has been Google washed.
Like, if I put knife attack in, I get one whole page of that.
Well, we had the Bogut of UK knife attack where the guy apparently cut the guy's head off in the middle of the street, the soldier.
Oh, yeah, that one.
That was a classic.
That was a good one.
That was a knife attack.
27 dead, 33 dead.
It started with 27.
It started with 27, yeah.
113 wounded.
In fact, it started with 27, and I had 27 in the show notes, and then people started calling the magic number out.
Yeah.
So I think they bumped it up just to make it apparent.
To let everyone know...
Something's behind it.
One or what?
By the way, Eric sent me not one, but two boxes of our 33 bags.
Yeah.
Which, something went wrong, and he's like, hey, can I have that one box back?
Like, no.
I already gave him a box of them?
Two.
Two boxes?
Well, you know, two boxes of ten.
He sent me two bags.
Yeah.
Well, I'm sorry.
Maybe one of my boxes was meant for you.
I don't know.
But I was at the market.
I'm giving them out to people who matter.
Either people who listen to the show, like Farmer Chris, or people who I think will be baffled.
And it's really funny when they go, oh, this is great.
What is it?
What's the 33 bag?
You know who's baffled?
Buzzkill Jr., By the bag?
Or by 33?
By both.
He doesn't know it.
He said, what's that?
What is that supposed to mean?
All right.
This is the family.
This is the family that listens to the show.
This is the family that listens to the show.
Hey, thanks, kid.
Only Eric knows, apparently.
All the people.
And I, you know, it's...
I don't know.
Is Buzzkill Jr.
still living in the house?
Yeah.
I think it's time to up his rent a little.
We're trying to get it, yeah.
If he's not listening to the show, at least he can pretend.
My wife doesn't listen to the show yet.
No, I know, I know.
She hears this stuff all the time, but the problem is that she misses this material that we've developed and actually gone into great detail on, and she'll come off the wall and tell me something that is...
Like the superficial part of it.
And I say, you have to listen to it.
I didn't know you guys talked about it.
Yeah, but unfortunately you have to listen for an hour.
You should listen to the show.
I'm telling you, I'm on page 12 of the knife attack Google search.
And it's, oh, finally, finally.
Let's see what page is this.
It is page 12.
Knife attack brothers locked up.
This is in Derbyshire.
Oh, yes, the British guys, right.
Two British kids.
Weren't they Muslims as well?
Wasn't that a Muslim attack?
No, no, no.
These are two white skinheads.
And then the Hudson police charged Derryman, D-E-R-R-Y, that is, with a January knife attack.
So we're getting a lot, even though there's no gun attacks in Great Britain, you can see, starting on page 12, there's a lot of knife attacks.
Okay.
Yeah, but don't try and argue with a Brit about that.
They'll say, it's not the same.
It's not all the same.
You stab somebody with a knife and gut him or shoot him.
Yeah.
Okay.
Anyway, so I'm handing out the 33 bags and a lot of people, that's great.
Yeah, what?
And I'm like, 33, you watch out.
It's the magic number.
You're going to start seeing it everywhere.
And that makes them very nervous.
People get so nervous so easy.
I think it's maybe the way I'm saying it.
Yeah, if you weren't drooling with cross eyes.
33 is the magic number.
Oh, boy.
Okay, well, let's start off the show with some fun.
Okay.
I have a quiz for you, and it has to do with your favorite topic, aviation.
Oh, okay.
Is this the question of the day for Adam clip?
The question of the day for Adam.
Hirement surge means that regional airlines in the U.S. will need hundreds of new pilots each year over the next decade, but they may not get them.
The Government Accountability Office reports that 11 out of the 12 regional carriers failed to meet hiring targets last year.
A major factor could be the average annual starting salary.
Okay.
That's your question.
Starting now, where's the clock?
Tick, tock, tick, tock.
You want the average starting salary?
Don't look it up.
I'm not looking it up.
I'm going to say the average starting salary for a captain.
No, starting salary would be your first officer.
Yeah, but if you start...
It's just the people starting.
Yeah, you're not going to roll in as the...
Right, so your first officer.
I'm going to say if it's more than $45,000, I'd be surprised.
Play the answer of the day.
Oh, hold on a second.
Answer of the day.
A major factor could be the average annual starting salary.
Just $22,400.
Regional Airlines handle half of all domestic flights.
Here's the good news.
I have a backup plan now in case this show falls to crap.
I can always make $22,000 a year on an RJ. This is perfect.
Yeah, they don't have enough people.
Really?
As you mentioned at the end, half of the domestic flights in this country are on these little carriers.
So the person that's flying you around...
I don't like this argument you're about to make.
I'm not making an argument.
The statement you're about to parrot?
The parroting is not going to happen.
I've heard this so many times.
What?
I can't believe the guy who has my life in his hands is only making $22,000 a year!
I think they should pay him more.
That's what I'm saying.
You think $22,000?
In today's market, in today's inflated economy, $22,000 a year, what is that?
That's, I think, minimum wage.
Now, if we were to look at this report, John...
Would we find that this is a full-time salary job, that he's flying every single day for this $20,000?
No.
This story was obviously planted by the unions.
Yes, the rail unions.
And the idea was to find the lowest number they can and put it into the mainstream media and let them just suck on it.
Exactly.
It's a good job.
I like this.
I like it.
I thought they did a wonderful job.
It was...
I don't think anybody...
This is NewsHour.
This is the slouch thing.
Wow, this was NewsHour?
Yes, this was NewsHour, PBS. You've got to call Bill and Melinda to tell them they're doing a good job.
So they had the little piece comes in there that everyone's getting $22,000.
I mean, that's the way you extrapolate this.
That's the meme now, yeah.
Everyone's getting $22,000.
Everybody.
Half flights are from these airlines.
In fact, I think the stewardess is...
It's just a couple things that makes you think, wow, that's terrible, which it is.
And then it makes you think, half the flights?
In other words, I'm not...
So you've got to give these pilots more money so the mainliner pilots would get more money.
I think all these pilots, unless they're driving a big giant boat, they're not getting paid much.
No.
No, you don't make a lot of money until you're on the big transatlantic flights.
What is wrong with my gate today?
What is wrong with my gate?
Well, I'm glad you missed the question.
That's good.
I was probably much closer to the actual answer than PBS NewsHour.
They're trained journalists.
Speaking of which, I need to ask you a question.
I don't have a clip.
But when one speaks of journalism, is it a noun?
Is it a verb?
I keep reading Glenn Greenwald, Greenwald, Donald Ruff!
I keep reading him saying, I'm producing great journalism.
That's how you do journalism.
What is it exactly?
Is it a verb?
Is it a noun?
What is journalism?
And can one produce great journalism?
Is that correct?
That's what he keeps writing.
We produced great journalism over there.
What does it mean?
It means it's full of crap.
Let's see what it actually defines out as.
Okay.
It's a noun.
Yeah, so, okay, yeah.
So you can't be doing, well, I guess you can do journalism.
It's still a noun then, right?
Unless you're journalizing.
Journalizing would be a verb, yeah, right.
The activity or profession of writing for newspapers or magazines or of broadcasting news on radio or television.
So we're journalists by this definition.
Mm-hmm.
Interesting.
We could use other words.
The synonyms.
The press.
The fourth estate.
Reporting.
Reporting.
You say great reporting.
You can say that.
News writing.
We do great news writing.
News broadcasting.
News coverage.
Reportage.
Reportage.
Yes.
Reportage.
We're doing great reportage here.
Nice.
I like doing the reportage.
Yeah, I think that's what we're going to do.
The best reportage in the universe.
Let me see if I can find it.
If you keep saying you're the greatest journalist in the world, which Greenwald says, at some point, I've heard he's the greatest journalist in the world.
Okay, here it is.
Although all he does is just take...
He hasn't even done any field work.
He sits at home...
Writing about himself.
Writing about himself.
Media outlets funded by government-supporting tech moguls with repugnant histories can produce important journalism.
Produce journalism?
When you produce journalism, it sounds like wag the dog.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, that's what it does sound like.
In fact, it may be exactly what it is.
So that may be absolutely correct.
It's very interesting.
Of course, if you haven't read the Pando Daily report, it was very interesting to read their...
They got a goldmine when they got this Amos character.
Yeah, who is this guy?
He was the partner with that car guy who was always hanging out with Sarah Lacey.
Right, okay.
That British guy.
Yeah, car.
That's the British guy.
The character, to say the least.
And his buddy was...
And they had this...
They had a little publication they were running that had good stories in it.
But the guy who apparently is the superstar or the potential guy...
Is the Mark Ames guy.
Ames character.
Yeah, yeah.
And they brought him over.
This has nothing to do with tech.
They're just going for good stories with this Ames guy.
So if you haven't read the story, it'll be in the show notes.
Stumble onto a goldmine.
Pierre Omidyar, Drive My Car, co-funded Ukraine Revolution Groups with U.S. Government Document Show.
And it's very interesting to see, you know, Glenn Greenwald, he spends more time defending himself, his colleagues, and their funders than he does producing great journalism.
And the tweets, so somehow, someone, one of our, let me see if I can find this for you.
One of our producers got the attention of Jacob Applebaum over there in Berlin.
Oh, nice.
Yeah.
And essentially, this producer, I'm sure it's a producer of ours, but he's copying at IO error, which is the Applebaum, and he's copying me and at State Department or State Gov, whatever.
If he's copying you, he's a listener.
Yes.
And he's saying, hey, Applebaum, why don't you start all of your speeches with, hi, I'm Jacob Applebaum.
I'm a government contractor.
Of course, funny, because all of the funding for Tor comes from governments.
The State Department, for sure.
Department of Defense.
Swedish government.
But what is interesting is that, and this producer of ours, I would view, although he's a producer and he lists no agenda, if I look at his numbers, you know, it's riffraff.
It's Twitter riffraff.
One of those low-numbered guys.
I got two followers.
Well, he's not that bad at all, but I don't understand, because when someone says something wacky about me, I look and I say, how many followers?
If you're under...
A couple thousand followers.
Why would I even bother responding?
I'm only, you know, giving credence to the real audience.
Yeah.
But this is what these guys do constantly.
And this I.O. error, Jacob Applebaum, continue.
And Greerald does this thing, too.
They're continuously, you know, defending, defending.
Shut up!
Go produce some great journalism and shut up!
Here.
Jacob Applebaum.
The thread is so long on this.
So the guy...
Well, no, he accomplished.
Our producer did one thing right.
He accomplished what he set out to accomplish, which is to get some attention to himself, which you gave him.
Yes.
And get a conversation going and distract somebody out there and just chuckle to himself.
It's got to be hilarious.
So as of this morning, and this is after...
And I didn't respond in the...
I did retweet one tweet.
It was just too funny.
He has a whopping 78 followers.
And Applebaum, who has...
What does Applebaum have?
He's got to have...
Yeah, he's got almost 70,000 followers.
He's all in on...
Just let me see.
You really have to look at this whole thing.
I pay taxes to use the road.
No, he's Jacob Applebaum.
Do you use any U.S. government services?
Roads, perhaps?
Do you pay taxes?
Are you a hypocrite?
Probably not, right?
That's Applebaum.
That was Applebaum?
That's Applebaum.
Because our guy's like, hey.
You got him.
Yes, he's on the run.
He's on the run.
Because our guy's like, hey, why are you taking government money for the tour project?
Isn't that kind of creepy?
And that's Applebaum's response.
And so Applebaum changes the subject.
Do you use government services?
Roads, perhaps?
No.
And he sounds like that curiously.
Yeah, that's my Applebaum impression.
But Greenwell does this too.
Why are they always defending?
To be honest about it, I do not think they fully understand social media.
It's either that, it's either they do not understand how it works, which is hilarious by itself, Or they truly are shills and just out there to defend their billionaire corporate uberlords.
So now we have a discussion.
Stop, stop, stop.
Because what you just said, it could be part of this sort of a really deeper not understanding, which would go like this.
Somebody says something like that, which invites a response, but you look and go, this is not something I'm responding to.
This is just some, you know, an ankle biter.
And meanwhile, Omid Arkham, how come you didn't respond to this?
Right.
You can't let this stand.
I'm sure he posted that on the internal messaging board, which apparently he does more than anybody else.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
So if you read the follow-up to this Pando piece...
Okay, so briefly, the Pando piece says, hey, this guy funded some of the groups along with the U.S. government, USAID, who overthrew the Ukrainian government.
And Greenwald's response is, sorry, it's the Tourette's.
Greenwald's response is, oh!
What?
Why?
I don't have time to investigate all the political dealings of my funders?
Well, that would be crazy to understand where the money's coming from.
What does that have to do with anything?
Besides, he's doing it for a profit, which is even more insulting.
That's terrible.
Yes, and of course, the whole idea is you can't be Pierre Omnicar Drive My Car on one hand saying, we're going to fuck the government!
Fuck those guys!
We're going to be nasty towards them!
But we're partners at the same time in overthrowing sovereign governments.
So that was the point of the Pando piece.
He then changes the entire subject And, you know, and to this, like, oh, I'm producing great journalism.
I don't, you know, Pando, you've got billionaires funding you, etc., etc.
So it's the war of the billionaires and back and forth.
But then Pando comes back and says, oh, well, very interesting.
Our guys are not on the board, you know, are not allowed in any meetings.
They're not on our internal messaging system.
But if you look what Jeremy Scahill said, and this comes back to your point of Scahill and Grant Greenwald are not going to last very long together.
Scahill's saying, oh, Pierre is so involved in everything, he sends more messages on the internal system than anybody!
One of those guys.
Can you imagine?
With all of this going on with people doing native advertising, in-your-face advertising, PBS every 15 minutes advertising, underwriter, sponsorship, advertising, whatever you want to call it on NPR, and then you have this billionaire funding.
My God, I love our vow of poverty.
What we're doing is the only true way to do it.
Well, in terms of having that sort of influence, yeah.
And the problem is with politics nowadays, I think this was maybe less, I could be just naive, but I think maybe less so years ago.
And let me mention something that disappeared here, which I do have to at least talk about if we're going to talk about this, the advertising model.
When I was a kid, and I worked for a lot of different magazines and newspapers.
Did you work for Grit?
I never worked for Grit.
I worked for Grit.
Like selling it?
Yes, yes, yes.
And I was always...
Would you like a subscriber?
You know, I've never seen a copy of this pony thing.
I signed up from the back of the comic book to sell Grit because they had all the great prizes.
And of course, I wanted to get the bicycle, but I think I wound up with the glasses that have x-ray vision.
What a...
Rip-off.
Whatever.
Anyway, so there used to be the church and state thing, which they always talked about, and everybody was very adamant about it, and everyone accepted it.
It was like, we have editorial over here, and then there's the marketing advertising guys on the other side, and the two never mixed.
I mean, generally speaking, they wouldn't even talk to each other, and if some advertising guy even showed up in the editorial department, they would usually scold him.
And they scold whoever talked to them.
And that was pretty common in magazines and newspapers until the internet came along and we had the phenomenon of what is called by different people analog dollars into digital dimes.
Yes.
No, it's paper dollars into digital dimes, wasn't that it?
Well, it used to also be dimes into pennies.
It depends on who you're talking to.
Whatever the case was, they realized that they couldn't make any money anymore using their old models, and so they came up with this hell with the wall, with the whatever it was called, some wall, I forgot.
Paywall?
Anyway, the hell with that, hell with the church and state, the hell with it all.
We've got to stay in business.
The Chinese Firewall.
It was some sort of...
It's the same wall that the banks used to have between the investment side and the banking side, which of course was dropped by President Clinton.
Was it Clinton?
Yeah.
It was the same with the newsrooms.
You had this very clear...
CBS was the Tiffany network.
And their newscast costs millions and millions and millions, I think at the time maybe it was $20 million a year, which was big in those days.
Yeah.
You know, maybe $100 million today.
Or more.
And they were proud of it.
We're proud of the losses we're making on our news because we have integrity.
And somewhere along the line someone went, fuck that.
Yeah, screw it.
What's the point?
Let's make some money.
Let's make some money.
Hey, I've got a second car payment here.
Did you ever meet my wife?
Holy mackerel, she's breaking me.
Why don't we just promote some of our other entertainment properties for cash?
So whatever the case was, they're all in, and now that we've been looking into native advertising and everybody's all over it, and they're all proud of it.
When I went to the meeting at the Edelman thing, Edelman's big into native advertising too.
All the agencies are.
All the big guys, WPP, Omnicon, they're all in.
But when you bring it up to the people who are actually implementing, not the advertising executives who don't care, but about the editorial people who used to work at a newspaper and now they're at Edelman, or they used to be, you know, even the ones that were old school PR. You bring it up to them and you give them the look.
Yeah.
They are sheepish.
What do you mean?
Are they, like, sad sheepish or what?
No, they're embarrassed.
It's like, you know...
Oh, well, they should be!
Wrong.
Oh my god, but they should be.
They are.
It's the...
Okay, I wasn't going to do this until later.
Gotta make a living is what the final boils down to.
I have pretty much the biggest native advertising push I've seen everywhere.
And lo and behold, I could go right to Forbes and I could get the entire article that this is a newscast.
Now remember, when you're going to bring a new drug out on the market, the thing you want to do is you want to warn everybody about this.
You don't want to say, hey everybody, great new drug coming!
No.
And it doesn't matter whether it's legal drugs or illegal drugs, and we have an example of both.
Both, I'm convinced, are complete native advertising.
So we'll start with this report, which you can find the exact words reproduced everywhere on the web.
It's basically Google-washed.
Because you'll only find these words.
Tonight, dozens of doctors and addiction experts are up in arms, urging the FDA in a letter to revoke its approval of what they call a new dangerous high-dose drug called Zohydro-ER.
Straight hydrocodone that can have up to 10 times more narcotic than Vicodin.
Now, I'm already very interested in this new drug.
Because what I heard was 10 times as potent.
I heard Vicodin.
I heard, yeah, sounds great.
You pack this amount of a narcotic into a single pill.
And these are drug terms, by the way.
Hey man, we packed all of this narcotic into a single pill.
Packing the pill.
It's very easy for somebody to overdose and die from it.
The FDA's own advisory committee voted 11-2 against approving the drug.
It's so good even the feds think it's good.
But the agency did it anyway.
The concern is listed right on the drugs prescribing literature.
It fits right on the label.
It does what it says it will.
Accidental consumption of even one dose of Zohydro ER, especially by children, can result in respiratory depression and death due to an overdose of hydrocodone.
The FDA says Zohydro should be reserved for use in patients for whom alternative treatment options are ineffective, not tolerated, or would be otherwise inadequate.
So, call your doctor today!
The drugs manufacturer says there is a documented patient need for an extended-release hydrocodone medicine without acetaminophen.
Hell yeah.
We remain confident in the measures we have proposed to support safe use of Zohydro-ER. And the FDA is requiring more studies to look at the risks of abuse, addiction, and death with long-term use.
And David, it hits the market this month.
Hey, it hits the market this month.
That's the payoff!
Yeah, I know.
It hits the market this month.
Ask your doctor.
He literally says, and, David, and, just to let you know.
With long-term use.
And, David, it hits the market this month.
Woo-hoo!
Woo-hoo!
Right on.
Hits the market this month.
Go out and call your doctor.
Get your Zohydro ER. That's probably like $25 a pill or something.
It doesn't matter.
It's the best thing you can get.
It's the closest thing you can get to heroin.
It's heroin.
Yeah, it's heroin and a pill.
Now, so that's native advertising.
Here's another thing that I've noticed.
I wrote a guy, some guy wrote this piece about Huawei, and it was so complimentary.
Oh, I like the way the design is, and it's so thin, and he was using adjectives that were over the top.
And I sent him a note, and I believe it was at Forbes.
I sent him, because Forbes is loaded with this stuff.
Forbes is the top hit if you look for dangers of Zohydro.
Yeah.
So I wrote him and said, is this native advertising?
And he...
Because I just wanted to, you know, just to confirm or not confirm.
What were you looking at?
What was the reference?
Huawei.
Oh, I'm sorry.
It was the router.
Okay.
No, it was the company.
Okay.
How great they are.
And it was written in this kind of breathless, like, who gives a crap about how great or not great Huawei is that you write this up like this?
So I said it was...
Send him a note specifically asking him, and unless he was lying to me, which I doubt, he said, no, no, he just feels this way about Huawei for whatever reason.
Yeah.
Here's what, here's the under, this kind of, I was thinking about this, and this is kind of the subtext of this whole native advertising thing.
It's creating a style.
Yes.
Of writing.
It's hazy advertising.
Beauty.
Hazy Advertiser.
Can we shorten it?
Hazy Advertiser.
Hazy Advertiser.
Whatever the case is, it's creating this style where you think this is okay to write like this because you see it all over the place.
You're surrounded by it, not realizing that these are all fawning pieces that were bought and paid for by one of these advertising agencies or another.
And they're placed, and we talked about this in great detail before, they actually have software now that...
They leave holes open for the native advertising in the New York Times and elsewhere.
And you just buy...
You go through the system and you drop your piece in there and it goes right to press.
It doesn't get looked at by the editors.
Nobody cares.
This is horrible.
This is what we're up against.
This is not what we're up against.
This is what the public at large is up against.
This is really bad.
If you go to...
If you just Google...
Hold on a second.
You have to see this, because it's Forbes and it's this story, and it'll blow you away.
Well, the whole title of the column is, Is the Super Potent New Opiate Painkiller Zohydro Just Too Dangerous?
by Melanie Haken, who's a contributor to Forbes.
It says, Melanie Haken, contributor, I report the latest in health, nutrition, fitness, and mental health.
But right there in the middle of the article, here's an ad for Zohydro ER, which experts say is too dangerous and should not have received FDA approval.
There's a huge Like, this is going to be a 4x6 inch ad in the middle of the page.
Is the ad too dangerous, according to the FDA? No.
They're showing the ad in the middle of the native advertising.
I'm not, you know, this is insulting.
I'm not an idiot.
Okay, so here we, I'm looking at it now.
So you're going, what's the fuss about, she says?
Plenty!
Zohydro is so strong that someone new to opioids...
Hello.
Are you a new customer?
Welcome.
Are you new to opioids?
I'm asking.
Hello.
Could die of an overdose from just two pills.
You don't want to do this.
Two pills could kill you.
That's how good this is.
That's great.
And a child could die from ingesting just one capsule.
Are they pills or capsules?
Make up your mind.
Are you seeing the ad in the middle?
I'm going getting there.
According to the FDA's review, the relief or the high of...
Stop, stop, stop.
It says...
You didn't read it right.
According to the FDA's review, the relief...
Oh, yeah.
No, you're right.
...hyphen or the high...
Or the high...
Of Zohydro.
And the high, there's no other writing below that.
It's just the ad.
This last line says the relief or the high of Zohydro can last up to 12 hours a dose.
And there's your ad.
And it says, an ad for Zohydro ER, which experts say is truly dangerous.
Essentially use the ad as a captioned picture with a little caption at the bottom that says, what Adam just read, an ad for Zohydro ER. This is an ad.
Look at this ad that they use.
This is terrible.
This is horrible.
This is the worst kind of thing that anybody can do in a publication.
This is how you produce great journalism.
Yeah.
So she's got the ad here.
So first she tells you about a 12-hour high, which is, you know, if you're really bored on Saturday night, it sounds like a winner.
Yeah.
We have to do show prep on Saturday night.
I'm just reminding people that we put a lot of effort into this.
And it's worse because...
So we're not using any of this stuff anytime soon.
I did show prep all day yesterday because one of our friends, it was her birthday yesterday.
So you had to go to a birthday party?
I had to go to the birthday party.
And it was interesting, though.
This was deep inside.
This is the wife of the guy who would never have a Republican over for dinner?
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, that was her birthday.
It was her birthday, yeah.
Were there any Republicans over?
No!
No, but huddled in the corner, it was me, Eric, the constitutional lawyer, we might as well call him a Republican, and my friend who's ex-Scientology.
You might as well call him a Republican, too.
It sounds like he's got Republicans in the House.
He didn't know.
The constitutional lawyer did have something interesting to say.
He was at the Supreme Court hearing about the EPA. You'll recall he had the amicus brief and he was in the running to be the guy to lead the charge, but then they decided some other group was going to do it.
But it's still the same six or eight groups that are essentially suing the EPA, the Environmental Protection Agency, questioning their regulatory power over greenhouse gases.
So you can't record, unless they explicitly allow it, you can't record anything inside the Supreme Court.
Unless you're the Young Turks and you're speaking truth to power, of course.
Yeah, that idiot.
I don't think everybody knows about that little incident.
I think that happened last week.
You sent it, so you tell everybody.
Oh, I did.
Okay, so some guy from...
By the way, I did...
Unfortunately, I jumped in the rabbit hole to try to track this guy back to the World's Workers' Party because I know that's where this came from.
But I couldn't.
These guys are out in Los Angeles living out of a house, which I Googled and looked at from the outside.
It's for sale, actually.
It's a three-plex in the Hollywood Hills backed up against the Hollywood Freeway.
Were you producing journalism by any chance?
No, I was just looking.
So, the guys, one of the guys are trying to get, it's called 99 Fist or something, 99 Risk, 99 something.
99 Fist, I think.
Fist.
That's not a good name, by the way.
It's 99 something.
It just has a fist.
I'm going to take, you tell the story, I'll look.
Anyway, so this guy goes to the Supreme Court.
He has his buddies with him.
They all have, you know, somehow they got smuggled in iPhones.
Google Glass.
You think it was Google Glass?
I think it was shitty enough to be glass.
I don't know what it was.
It was pretty shitty, whatever it was.
Could have been some wristwatch camera, for all we know, or one of those pen cams you carry in your pocket.
Because they never really had a good shot at all.
But they had these two or three shots in this huge chamber.
You couldn't hear anything.
You definitely couldn't hear the justices.
99 Rise.
99 Rise, yeah.
I could not get past Los Angeles with these guys, so I couldn't bring it back to the World Workers' Party, which is typically the guys who pull this stuff.
Anyway, there still may be a connection.
I just don't have it.
Anyway, so the guy stands up in the court or the audiences, which is a huge area.
It looks like a stadium.
And he starts bitching about...
What was he bitching about?
I can't remember.
Something.
About the 99% and, you know, it was all about...
Of course, it's 99 rise.
Yeah, it's all about...
No, but it's all about what's that case where the Democrats are...
Oh, Citizens United.
Citizens United.
The guy stands up and he's bitches about citizenship.
Corporations are not people.
Money is not freedom of speech.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what he yells.
As my summary, I didn't expect to give a summary.
I'm kind of botching it here, but they're getting the point.
So the guy stands up, and then within a few seconds, some security guys haul his ass out and arrest him because it is illegal to make a fuss in the chambers of the Supreme Court.
And so Cenk comes on his Young Turk show...
And he's going about what a great patriot this guy is.
The 99 Fisters are speaking truth to power.
Truth to power.
The crock of crap ever.
You know, it was an amusing little aside.
They won't throw him in jail, but he'll have a huge fine.
It won't be worth the trouble.
He's still not going to get anybody to join his organization.
He's not an organizer.
Or he wouldn't be living in this triplex in the Hollywood Hills with some other losers.
Exactly.
Hold on a second, John.
One second.
And...
Bam!
Bam!
99fists.com is ours.
99fists.
It's so much better than 99rise.
99fists.
All right, so where were we in this?
99fists on the wall.
99fists on the wall.
Okay, so where were we on this?
Oh, yes.
So the constitutional lawyer, Eric, he was at the Supreme Court.
Now, I'm not allowed to tell you everything he said because he's a member of the court.
Okay.
An officer of the court.
No, but he could be disbarred for what he actually told me.
Yeah, no, no, you're not going to tell anything.
I would not.
You never actually heard anything good from him.
No.
Go on.
We heard all kinds of good things from him.
No, no, I'm saying.
Oh, yes.
No, never.
He felt that the...
He said...
And I wrote it down.
Hold on a second.
Where is it?
I tend to write these things down now.
He says, watching the Supreme Court, he says, very disappointing to him.
I don't think he's been to the Supreme Court.
You know, at least something that...
No, I don't think he's been to the Supreme Court.
He says, it was like a freshman senatorial hearing where everyone is pandering to the New York Times editorial board.
Talking about the Supreme Court?
Yes.
He said it was so disappointing, the questions they asked.
And he actually said, it's like they're all dumb.
They're all dumb.
Yeah.
He had some other choice words, but I'm not going to use those.
But he was really disappointed, like a freshman senatorial hearing pandering to the New York Times editorial board.
Yeah.
That's your Supreme Court.
I think that's more valuable than the guy speaking truth to power.
That video gave you nothing.
No, that was just a joke.
Anyway...
But Chank got a big kick out of it.
He now bills himself as the number one online news show.
Now, are they only online now, now that Current is Al Jazeera?
I think they have a radio...
I think they have some radio outlets.
I think they got some clearances.
Right, so they're making some real money somewhere else besides YouTube.
I don't think so.
These are like...
Until you get to 100 stations plus, you're not making anything.
Well, it's more percentages of the country.
But it's probably not making much more than his salary.
It's very hard to clear any kind of stations, you know, these days, certainly.
Right.
And you're right.
If you don't get New York, you know, you don't get it.
No, if you don't have New York, L.A., Chicago, New York, L.A., Chicago.
Los Angeles.
New York, that would be L.A. The New York, L.A., Chicago.
Oh, L.A.? I thought you were talking about Louisiana.
Yeah.
No, what is the...
I'm just kidding.
It's P1s.
And what are the other P1s?
There's one or two in Florida, if you can get some good Florida stations.
I think Miami's a big outlet.
Fort Lauderdale, Miami, what's up north there, Orlando.
Minnesota.
How about St.
Paul, Minnesota?
Yes, St.
Paul, Minnesota, another great market.
Seattle.
I've been to all of them.
And Seattle, not so, for some reason.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Anyway, despite the fact that you clearly do not have the spunk of 99 Rise and are only one of 99 Fists, I do want to thank you for your courage and say, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
Huh.
In the morning to you, Adam Curry, and in the morning to all the ships at sea, and the boots on the ground, listen to this show, and the feet in the air, and the subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
And to our artists, thank you very much, Wabrowski.
Who gave us the art for episode 5, 9, or 5.
A truly beautiful piece of original art is highly appreciated.
As we appreciate the art from all of our artists, you can find it at noagendaartgenerator.com.
We're always looking forward to what we will be able to choose from for our episode right after the show.
And of course in the morning to the chat room there, all the human resources at noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net.
Good to have you along for the ride.
So we don't have a native advertising?
Although, we could have probably made at least four grand on that...
The plug for the drug?
For the drug, yeah.
Well, that actually shows how...
The guys who, they'll be giving high fives over all the free support they got.
Look at how our strategy worked!
Even those dickheads are talking about...
Those douchebags, they don't get it, dude.
They know they're dumb.
Yeah, they don't understand how it works.
You want some more blow?
Yeah.
Is this the drug guys talking?
No, this is the advertising guys.
Wait a minute.
Who's handing out the blow?
The advertising guys.
To who?
They're all coked up.
To who?
To each other or to the guys on the radio?
No, no.
Oh, that would be a good idea, but that's too risky.
Yeah.
No.
Instead, we have chosen a very simple model.
It's called value for value, and I see people posting around like, oh, we use the value for value model.
Okay, a couple things.
When you say, send me a tip, that's not value for value.
That's tipping.
That's different.
It's no good.
Yeah.
And sometimes, you know, everyone leaves a nice tip from time to time, but it's not tipping because tipping would...
It's like you're paying...
You're already getting money and you're getting a tip on top of that.
Yeah, but it's also like...
We're not getting any money.
No.
And we're not...
It's all against the tip?
That makes no sense.
Tipping is when you are already buying a product and you want to give the person who handed it to you and did not spit in the product...
Right.
You know, a little act like, hey, thanks for not spitting on the product.
Exactly.
We're not just only nuts.
In fact, that's what I say to my waiter.
Don't spit in the product.
Please.
Exactly.
We have a balanced attack today.
We have three associate executive producers and three executive producers.
Very nice.
I want to thank them all, starting with Archduke.
Actually, he's just Duke.
He's not Archduke.
He's Duke.
Oh.
Archduke is the next.
I think he's just below Archduke.
He's Duke.
But we'll call him Archduke for now because I could be wrong.
I did the numbers and I believe he's Duke, but he could be Archduke.
Why even bring it up?
I don't know.
It's because it says Archduke here.
596.33.
ITM, John and Adam, after spending several hours waiting for SFO to lift the ground stop yesterday so I could get home, I must implore you to destroy your rain sticks immediately.
Yeah.
Please find my club.
Boy, it was really raining in Los Angeles.
Well, it's our fault.
Please and close find my Club 5, 9, or 6 membership and my Illuminati tax of 33 cents.
Thank you very much.
That's highly appreciated.
Well, Sir David Foley, we actually did stop a week ago, and there's just remnants, but people can't complain when they say, oh, we haven't had rain for five years, the farmers are doing, nothing's growing, and then we shake the sticks, we get rain everywhere, and now everyone's complaining.
You know, I've got to the conclusion that people just complain.
Yeah.
We should just ignore it.
Well, I am...
There's no one can dispute the timing of our rain stick operation.
Oh, my goodness.
All right.
All right.
Here you go.
All right.
I don't know who's getting it now, but we're definitely sending it.
All right.
Woo-hoo!
Make it rain!
And we'll be making it rain later on the show, too, I might add.
Lenart Renkema.
Renkema.
Renkema in Groningen.
Groningen.
Groningen.
334 with a simple comment, ITM. In the morning.
And finally, for the executive producers, Kevin Hine, 33333 from Auckland, and he does have a note he sent in, which I will dig up.
I thought I had it up.
There it is.
Hi, John, he says.
It's actually got a New Zealand email address, which I suspect is where he is.
It was only in January that I came across Twit.
You were on the first episode I saw.
I brought a new TV with podcast capability, and I came across Twit when searching for various tech stuff.
He sent me a note before this note, which was this note.
Sorry about that.
Just sent through my first contribution.
I stumbled across you on Twit.
I'm a card-carrying skeptic, but not a conspiracy theorist, so I spent the last few weeks trying to figure out if the No Agenda show was for me.
Or would...
Adam, go too far.
So far, it's been brilliant!
And I look forward to each episode.
Based on the value for value model, I thought I'd better pay up and keep you guys on the air.
Thank you.
He wants two shots to the head.
Yeah.
And, well, the target is my secret.
That's it.
All right, here we go.
Two to the head.
Thank you very much.
We appreciate your courage.
Two to the head.
Dropping down to Sir Incognigro, who has now achieved a double in baronet status with $279.69.
Plus later, he thinks $69.69, I believe he sent in two checks.
He sent in a long handwritten note that goes on for five, six, seven pages.
Did he send a picture with his note?
Why would he send a picture?
Because I'm interested in pictures of people.
Alright, well, he'll send a picture next time.
The note is hard to read, so I'm going to read this part of it, and I'm going to send you a copy, because the note was meant for the both of us.
Is it cut out of newspaper letters?
Not yet.
Is it longhand, cursive?
Yes, it's longhand, cursive.
Block letters?
Give us a little theater of the mind here, John.
What kind of paper is it written on?
It's written on three-hole-punched, lined paper that you might find used in college.
For a long composition.
It was a binder.
Was it taken out of the binder or ripped?
That's telling, I would say, as if you were a detective.
Yes.
No, it was not, probably never in the binder.
Okay.
And he does mention a few things here that are kind of, but he, there's a very complimentary note.
He loves the show.
Either way, he wanted to be, here's the kicker.
He wanted us to maybe put this off so he could become the Black Knight character.
Oh, the Black Knight, because he's the Incognigro.
Sir, he wants to be Black Knight, Sir Incognigro, but that didn't happen.
We got the note on time.
I'm reading it now, so he's going to have to get lucky if he's going to get to that status, which is not a status.
That just indicates we made a mistake.
People, they want to be Black Knight.
It's more like a Purple Heart.
It's not really a status.
He says, either way, thank you for your courage and your inquiring something of Adam Curry.
Oh, after his dramatic meltdown on episode 493, right at the end, that mofo got my attention.
L-O-L. 493?
That's what he says.
Okay.
I had only met your...
Met your something, divider, some who around...
Oh, yeah, he started listing around 450 and was really starting to feel my buns hurt or something.
I can't read that, actually.
That's what...
Anyway, so he started donating after that.
Anyway, he's going to have to type these notes.
Everyone has a printer.
Everyone has a printer.
Yeah, but the printers are traceable.
270...
We have a lot of that.
Too much of that, by the way, people.
So 4903, the show title was Snowquestration.
Yeah.
And you melted down at the end.
I don't remember you melting down at the end of any show.
You usually melt down in the middle.
And you haven't melted down for a year over a year.
You get on the edge once in a while, but I back off.
Don't get complacent on me.
I could blow at any minute.
Thank you for your awesome nighting from last week.
I'd like to share my two top crazy things that have happened to me in my 12 years being on a train.
I had a homeless lady toss her feces at me and it missed by inches.
And I locked her in the train car until the cops came.
Wait a minute.
That's not protocol.
The second was the guy yelling he was going to blow up the train because he thought he lost his iPod on it.
And later, after he was arrested, it was found under the station bench on the platform.
Anyway, thank you and keep spreading the truth.
I am taking everything back I've said about the train conductors tasing people.
In fact, they should give them double the amount of electricity.
Just to tase these nutjobs.
Yeah, there's too many nutjobs out there.
They're all over the place.
And I think when I read a note later in the show, I'm getting more and more convinced that it's the media and the whole scene outside of what we do making people crazy.
Yes, and this is what Bad Chad in Colorado, who's on the ambulance.
He says, you have no idea.
He said, I live in the anus of America, on the streets, and it's nothing but these crazy people.
And by the way, they call 911 because they're too big to get out of their chair in front of the TV to get their cigarettes from across the room.
I'm not making this up.
Yeah, we've heard this.
Yeah, people call 911 for like, hey, my dog got out of the yard.
Can you guys come get it?
No, but I can't.
I'm too big to get my smokes.
I'm too fat to get up.
I need somebody to get me some water.
And he's always talking about all the drugs he has.
He says 911's for help and assistance.
All the drugs he has to help people, like Haldol and all this other stuff, and fentanyl.
Oh, here's another douchebag he OD'd.
Well, we'll bring him back so that then the meth can take over and he can try and rip my head off.
No, they should give these guys one thing and one thing only.
Just give them the taser.
I'm sorry, you're too ill to be helped.
I feel horrible saying it, but I think some people are too...
What?
Yeah, nothing.
I think some people are very...
You're right, and the media is making them ill.
My poor wife is getting ill from this whole Ukraine business.
Mickey?
Yes!
Okay, Mickey is a European, and she understands that you can drive to Kiev from Amsterdam in not a long time.
You know, it's shorter from here to Chicago.
And she's worried about...
I'm worried.
I'm worried.
There used to be something called the Crimean War, so it's not unusual.
World wars are triggered by these little events that happen in the middle of nowhere.
John, ixnay on the orway.
Not helping.
You're making my life miserable.
War could break out any minute.
Any minute now.
I'm here going, baby, you trust me, don't you?
I'm no agenda, guys.
Nothing's going to happen.
Trust me.
Any minute.
Any minute.
And she just pulled up.
Any minute now this can happen.
She's still smiling.
I don't know if that's a good sign or not.
So Brooklyn, so Michael Allen, I guess he's on the Long Island Railway.
I think he said somewhere.
I can only imagine.
Next time I'm in New York, I usually take the Long Island Railway to town.
L-I-R-R? Might run into him.
L-I-R-R? Anyway, finally, our last associate executive producer is actually another podcast.
Oh, wow.
The Grim Erica podcast, which is kind of complimentary.
I think it's Grim Erica.
No, he says Grim or Grime, actually, the way he's got it.
But he says pronounced Grime Erica.
Grimerica.
Yeah.
I've heard of these guys.
They want me to be on show.
They're always asking me to come on these podcasts.
I just don't have the time.
I think they've got good numbers.
Anyway, Graham Dunlap and Darren Grimes of the Grimerica Show podcast would like to thank you for desalinating the muddy, lamestream media waters for us.
Huh.
This enables us the time we need to dedicate to our podcast, The Gramerica Show, where we explore topics on the fringe, some of which you and your producers and listeners may find very interesting.
We have John Perkins, the original economic hitman, coming up in early March.
Oh, that's cool.
I have, by the way, here's the thing, Perkins, we interviewed him when, myself and Horowitz interviewed him, I think, a couple years ago.
But that was after you sold out or before?
After.
Uh-huh.
And I would ask him a couple of questions.
You definitely have to ask him.
Ask him what he thinks is going on with Ukraine, specifically if economic hitmen represented by the IMF are going in there.
Just ask him.
See what he says.
And there's another question I had, too.
I can't remember what it was.
So I'm looking at Grimerica.ca.
I guess it's a Scandinavian podcast.
Scandinavia.
So here's the most recent episode is Grimerica Talks 9-11 and False Flags with Kevin Barrett.
All right.
Yes, he's got Don Estabrook coming.
The donation of 23433 is a combo for the now infamous 12333 and making it rain.
For now when the club opens, when we'd like to call out Erica to the mainstay, we're going to do this today and she's going to go on the next one because I've got it written up.
Wait a minute, Erica's part of the Gramerica podcast?
Yeah, hello.
Oh, Grimes and Erica.
Oh man, I'm sorry.
She's also a stripper apparently.
I'm going back to the website.
Was there a photo page?
She says she's our virtual digital lap dancing girlfriend experience.
Also, please give us some podcast karma from the best podcasts in the universe.
You guys make a great team and keep up with the good work.
These are truly the most interesting times.
Yeah, well, absolutely.
Here's some karma for you.
Sure.
You've got karma.
Send a picture.
Hold on.
I'm trying to Google a picture.
Of Erica.
Yes.
Duh.
Let me see.
America, Erica.
Let me see if I can find a picture of Erica.
Probably not.
No.
They kind of describe her as a lap dancing girlfriend experience virtual girl.
Is that a morning zoo show they're running over there?
I don't know.
That's what it sounds like if you've got two guys and a girl.
But in talking about fringe issues, that's pretty interesting.
So anyway, Perkins, you've got to ask him about what's going on in the Ukraine.
He doesn't seem to be forthcoming anymore.
He seems to have backed way off as if somebody has a dog's head.
Maybe he has a family.
Maybe he's just being careful.
So you're not going to get a lot out of him at this point.
The book tells it all, and that's that.
Yeah.
And that's our group for today, show 596, four away from show 600.
I want to thank them and everyone else who donated to the show.
Obviously, we'll get to them later.
And go to Dvorak.org slash NA to continue support for the show coming up next Thursday.
Dvorak.org slash NA. And besides those being actual credits for our producers, we'd like you to remember to go out and propagate the formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Water. Order.
Shut up, play.
Shut up, slave!
Yay, yay, yay, yay!
Shut up, slave!
Hey, it's a new month, John.
Yeah.
Which means we have some presidential proclamations, which is very important, always.
Yeah, let's get to those.
We have, it is, and just in time for the war in Europe, American Red Cross Month.
Well, I guess it's only American Red Cross Month, so it doesn't really count for Europe.
But it's a different operation.
The International Red Cross is different.
That's true.
In fact, on the bloodied battlefields of the Civil War, Clara Barton risked her life to aid the wounded, raise spirits, and deliver dearly needed medical supplies.
She went on to found the American Red Cross in 1881.
I did not know that.
I didn't know that either.
Therefore, I here do by proclaim March 2014 is American Red Cross Month.
I encourage all Americans to observe this month with appropriate programs, ceremonies, and activities by supporting the work of service and relief organizations.
Very good.
I'm surprised you didn't mention you should give blood.
We got your tax dollars, now give blood.
Which is how they make money, actually, because they sell the blood back to hospitals.
Yeah.
Also by presidential proclamation, it is Irish American Heritage Month.
Oh!
That's right.
Centuries after America welcomed the first sons and daughters of the Emerald Isle to our shores.
They weren't welcomed.
Well, they said welcomed.
That's a lie.
Irish heritage continues to enrich our nation.
Why were they not welcomed?
Nobody welcomed any of the immigrants.
Really?
Because they were going to take jobs away.
They were low-balling whoever was there before them.
Wait a minute.
I thought that bring your huddled, your tired masses.
Yeah, because that was big business.
They wanted to get these people in it for cheaper labor.
It's a very common thing.
Okay.
That's why the Republicans are all, they want to get more labor from Mexico that work under the table for cash.
Well, I do hereby proclaim March 2014 as Irish American Heritage Month.
You'll have to share it with the American Red Cross.
I call upon all Americans to observe this month with appropriate ceremonies, activities, and programs.
Get drunk!
It's a good program.
And it is also, by presidential proclamation, Women's History Month.
Okay.
Throughout our nation's history, American women have led movements for social and economic justice.
The women versus the Irish.
And the American Red Cross.
Made groundbreaking scientific discoveries, enriched our culture with stunning works of art and literature, and charted bold directions in our foreign policy.
Yeah?
Hello, Hillary.
No woman made Facebook.
This month we are reminded that even in America, freedom and justice have never come easily.
Oh, this is an inequality bit.
As part of a centuries-old and ever-evolving movement, countless women have put their shoulder to the wheel of progress.
Activists who gathered at Seneca Falls and gave expression to a righteous cause.
Trailblazers.
Blah, blah, blah.
No kidding.
Jeez.
Okay, I hereby call upon all Americans to observe this month and to celebrate International Women's Day on March 8th with appropriate programs, ceremonies, and activities.
March 8th?
Is that a day that we do a show?
I don't know.
I also invite all Americans to visit www.womenshistorymonth.gov to learn more about the generations of women who have left enduring imprints on our history.
Isn't that nice?
And those three come right above, I didn't know this either, the continuation of the national emergency with respect to Zimbabwe.
I did not know this.
We are in a state of national emergency because of...
We are in a state?
A continued state of national emergency.
We.
We, the Americans, the United States, including the women, the Red Cross, and the Irish Americans.
We are in a state of national emergency, the country.
Yes, we are, sir.
Huh.
Transmits to the Congress a notice stating that the emergency is to continue in effect beyond the anniversary date.
In accordance with this provision, I have sent to the Federal Register for publication in a closed notice stating the threat constituted by the actions and policies of certain members of the government of Zimbabwe and other persons to undermine Zimbabwe's democratic process or institutions has not been resolved.
These actions and policies continue to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the foreign policy of the United States.
For this reason, I've determined it is necessary to continue this national emergency and to maintain and enforce the sanctions to respond to this threat.
What does it mean when we're, even though I find this to be disturbing because it's stupid, but what does it mean when we're in a state of national emergency?
Does that mean they can spy on us more?
Yes.
Specifically, what is a national emergency?
What does it have to do with us?
Be vigilant, citizen.
Be vigilant.
You never know when some Zimbabwe guy is going to terrorize you.
Maybe.
Zimbabweans.
Isn't that the place that we have those trillion dollar bills from?
Yeah, yeah, we're making tons of money off that.
I got the Zimbabwe trillion dollar bill.
I've got a couple of them.
I haven't seen anything lately, though.
What kind of risk do those guys pose?
They've got a trillion dollar bill, which is worth a dollar.
Not even.
How can that be dangerous to society?
I'm not buying it.
Not buying it.
Oh, wow.
Anyway, there was lots and lots of fun.
I kind of went a little clip crazy, to be quite honest.
Let me get a couple of my clips out of the way, though.
Please do.
I was most intrigued by the news hour, especially Sharia, whatever his name is, the guy who they gave the weekend show to, and I don't even know what they do that to.
Shia LaBeouf?
What?
Shia LaBeouf?
No, the guy that's the kind of the...
I don't even know if he's South Asian or black.
I can't tell.
Honestly, I really don't watch the NewsHour a lot.
Okay, well, this guy seemed very upset by the Yahoo story this week.
Oh, the webcam story?
Yeah.
Yeah.
When he's telling the story, it's as though he felt that he was doing something.
I'm watching this, and the guy looks like he's nervous about...
Doing the story at all?
The story, because, well, let's hear play Yahoo and the GCHQ1 comb through both the imagery and the associated data around where those images came from to both find targets that it already had in its intelligence gathering purposes and figure out new targets.
So you're saying that it's not just the targeted folks that got swept up in this net.
What about Americans that were using Yahoo WebChat between 2008 and 2010?
Should they be concerned that there are images of them stored either?
On Grindr.video.yahoo.thingy?
The NSA or GCHQ now?
It's a major question because GCHQ, like the NSA, does not have the ability on the front end of its bulk collection programs to filter out data coming from the US and coming from the UK. Hold on one second.
He's telling me that what every other ad network can do, which is basically geolocation, so they can send you an ad in your appropriate language, that the GCHQ and NSA do not have that capability to say, oh, this is from America, we shouldn't capture that?
Is that what I just heard him say?
Yeah, yeah.
What a liar.
Well, no, they...
Yes, you're right.
The point, I want to back up because I don't know if everyone's aware of this, but what happened when they found GACHQ, which is the NSA of Great Britain, got caught with all this data from Yahoo.
And we've known, I think even when we first started the show we talked about this, it's a known fact that the trick...
Was, oh, you can't spy on Americans.
Okay, let's let GCHQ spy on Americans.
And we'll spy on the British, and then we'll put the systems together, and hey, we didn't spy on Americans.
That's what the whole Five Eyes is about.
That's exactly how it works, yeah.
Get direct answers as to how many Americans, if any, have been collected.
But the rules and the laws that GCHQ is under on the search end, when analysts can look through this database, distinguish merely between people believed to be in the UK and people not believed to be in the UK. So Americans' imagery data that's been caught up in this could in fact be searched by GCHQ. I love how the language is used, like it's caught up, it was swept up.
The idea is to conjure up...
No, we're helpless, helpless!
No, the idea is to conjure up kind of like the reality show is the greatest catch where they're going for lobster or crab and they pull up like, you know, little tuna or something like, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sweep up the tuna.
Whatever they pick up, you know, barracudas or whatever they got on that show.
The most important partner of the NSA from surveillance purposes.
So what did they do with all these pictures?
What's the facial recognition element?
The facial recognition element is fascinating because it's an emerging technology that even the documents can see just really isn't precisely mature yet.
The idea what would be...
Oh, hey, stop.
So I got the copy of the facial recognition memo.
An inordinate number, it says, of people with one squinty eye seem to be in the database.
Really?
Does it really say that?
From an intelligence perspective, if you had a partial identifier, maybe an email address or part of a screen name of an intelligence target, but didn't really have much more than that, potentially, if you swept up all of this Yahoo webcam data, you might be able to find the image of someone's face or someone's body type, and that could be used as part of a way of targeting this person, finding out more about this person, and, if necessary, apprehending that person.
Is there anything in the documents that says this program stopped?
Is it still going on?
No.
It's an interesting question.
We didn't get a precise answer to it.
The latest, the documents indicate that it was still active as 2012, but when we asked if it is ongoing or if it stopped, we got responses similar to the one that you read out that discussed matters of the law and how all of this was legal, not whether or not this actually stopped.
I have a question for you, John, about this.
Now, this was based on yet more PowerPoint slides from Eric Snowden there, Edwin Snowden.
Is it?
I believe so.
Okay.
But what I'm...
All this great journalism that Glenn Greenwald...
This didn't come out of Glenn Greenwald, though.
I'm always wondering where it came from.
Somebody did some work, because there were questions answered.
But this is my point.
Yeah.
This $250 million WordPress blog, since they launched, they really haven't had anything explosive like this.
No, this was a Guardian story.
That was a Guardian reporter.
Yeah.
This is kind of the story that you want, particularly if you're driving my car.
This is what you want.
Hold on a second.
Are you driving it possibly that this new website is sort of a corrupt...
Blog.
Blog that is like distracting.
It's taking the subject away because this story, which this guy never heard of before, he's the reporter on this, and he went and did some real reporting where you ask people questions.
You're maybe telling me that now the whole thing, that we're just being scammed by this intercept?
Well...
I will say that when we were talking earlier on the show, and I glanced over at the chat room, which I purposely have on a third monitor far away, I'm always surprised by people who are angry that we are calling the validity of this quarter-billion-dollar blog into question.
Particularly when all I read about is the journalists producing journalism about themselves or their partners.
Or how they're detained, or how they've been misquoted, mistreated, or are speaking truth to power.
But I really haven't seen any great reporting on this particular blog just yet.
Yeah, yeah.
And you think that this particular story that we're talking about now, the Yahoo images and facial recognition and this thing owned by GCHQ. And as they go on, when we listen to the second half, I'll just summarize.
Or, question, question.
Yeah, play part two, but I just want to say that this is becoming more apparent that these two agencies that are in cahoots.
So what are the legal consequences there?
Was GCHQ allowed to do something that perhaps the U.S. government wouldn't do?
Or does the U.S. government have to get approval from the FISA court for all this?
It's a fascinating question.
GCHQ is under fewer legal constraints than the NSA is from the sort of equivalent privacy laws.
Which aren't really equivalent, but for the sake of this discussion, close enough.
All GACHQ analysts have to have as a reasonable suspicion, not even reasonable from a particularly legally binding context, that its intelligence targets are genuine from out of this program.
If they want to search for it, the protections are about whether they have reason to believe that the accounts associated are inside or outside the UK. Beyond that, Not really a lot.
The question that still remains outstanding that NSA wouldn't address is what its level of access is to this database.
They didn't directly address that to us when we went to them on that.
And NSA's tools, like the X-Keyscore query tool, are set in the documents to work alongside this data.
So there are suspicions that remain outstanding as to the degree to which NSA was able to access this data.
Did your bell fall over you hit it so hard?
Yeah.
Like, ding, ding, ding!
Yeah, apparently the database is compatible.
You're like that old guy in the wheelchair on Breaking Bad.
Do you remember The Uncle?
No, I never watched that show.
Oh, my God.
I've only watched a couple episodes.
I've always enjoyed it, but I realized that it was another show I don't want to invest myself into.
Okay, okay.
You don't have to.
Can I just ask you to do one thing?
I'm going to ask you a question, and I want you to hit the bell two times quick.
Like, ding, ding.
Okay?
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you know where Greg Greenwald is?
No, just two taps.
Just two taps.
No good.
You never watched even...
You didn't even get through season one, apparently.
I saw the one episode I did watch to enjoy was where the guy had a head on top of the turtle.
And it blew up.
That was a great one.
Downhill from there.
I saw the first episode and I didn't think about that.
Never mind.
Never mind.
I take it all back.
Now, let's go to...
Anyway, so this is like a story.
There's two things about this story that's interesting.
One, of course, is that The Intercept didn't get the story, even though they supposedly have all the documents.
The Intercept.
They didn't get the story, and they have all the documents, supposedly.
The other thing is, here's the guy from The Guardian.
He's in New York, in the studio, talking to these guys, whereas Greenwald won't come in and do anything.
He just stays at home in Brazil.
And yells and tweets.
And he yaks and yaks and he talks over people because there's a delay that's a mile long.
It's just ridiculous.
I found a clip about this particular story which I picked up specifically because...
People, I think, certainly people like the Intercept crew over there, they don't understand that America doesn't care.
If you're producing this journalism for the United States market, America doesn't care anymore about this.
The story is...
People should have been up in arms about the first revelations, and this particular story should make them all walk out of Yahoo and never go back.
Instead...
On CBS, the prostitute is just laughing about it.
The allegation that the government is not only reading and listening, but also watching our private lives, is bound to intensify that debate.
There is one thing, though, that's got Britain's laugh.
This morning, Anthony and Nora, it's the revelation in the GCHQ documents that their analysts had to be warned to use caution when they were looking at the intercepts because up to 11% of them contained what it called undesirable nudity.
Incredible.
Thank you.
I made a penis reference.
Vagina.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you.
That is CBS news.
These people make millions of dollars.
Undesirable body part.
They're giggling.
Whereas it is unconscionable that they are giggling about this gross intrusion.
Finally, we have a way to...
Communicate body parts with each other in some kind form of privacy, but yet we don't.
And they're giggling about it.
There's no outrage.
It's...
Because, you know, we all show our penis!
You disgust me, CBS. You know what?
These people, along with Bill Gates, need to be stopped.
Also, the Customs and Border Patrol need to be stopped.
Need to be stopped.
These people need to be stopped.
I'm telling you.
It doesn't matter.
All bets are off because tonight is the Oscars.
I can guarantee you one thing.
Nothing will happen in Ukraine tonight.
Nothing.
Too much action.
While you're talking about the Oscars, I do want to play a clip.
Oh, boy.
Now, there is a...
Let's see, what's the name of this thing?
It's called the...
Actually, yeah, the act of...
Okay, this is going to be very interesting Oscars from the documentary.
Because there's two documentaries on here that are going to tear apart the left-wing and liberal members of the academy.
And one is Dirty Wars, I guess?
Dirty Wars is Scahill's.
But the better one, and I think the one that should win, which will irk Scahill, and nobody really wants to see him up on the stage.
No.
He's a chatterbox, and he's been on too much stuff.
And he's going to go up there.
And they want to get this guy who did the act of killing...
Can I tell you another reason why Scahill will not win?
Because his movie was financed by the self-loathing Jew from South Africa.
Not compatible with Hollywood Jew.
Right.
You're right.
That's a good point.
In fact, that's the best point.
But this is the one that should win, which is the act of killing.
And it was done by another character who is much more sincere than Scahill.
And he's got...
It's essentially, he went to Indonesia in the mid-60s.
Now, you play the clip.
In the mid-60s, there was an extermination of almost a million Indonesians by the government that took over the place.
And it was a mass...
Wait a minute, wasn't that the Netherlands that were involved in that?
Wasn't that the lowlands?
Or was that his way after the lowlands?
No, he mentions, but the U.S. was complicit.
Which means Lyndon Johnson, the Democrat.
And what he did, he went over there to do a documentary on it and he couldn't get anyone to talk and the army was irked about this.
And somebody suggested to him that instead of talking to the surviving victims, he should talk to the guys who did it.
And what was weird, and he says it in here, they were more than happy to talk about it and brag about it.
Wow.
And not only that, but he took them to the point where they did reenactments and all these guys wanting to be stars.
They would jump right in.
They jumped right in.
They gave him directions.
He says, no, that's not the way you gut the man.
Oh, wow.
You take the knife here and then you give it to him across there and his guts fall.
You know, that kind of thing.
And so he was aghast.
But meanwhile, he's getting a good movie out of it.
And here's what happened on NewsHour.
When the army found out what we were doing, the army warned them, threatened them not to participate in the film.
The survivors then said, okay, if you can't film us, try and film the perpetrators.
You might find out what happened to us.
When I approached the perpetrators, they were boastful, eager to show what they'd done, eager to take me to the places where they killed and show how they killed, and then started to suggest stylizations, improvements.
And I realized that if we could let them do that, we would be able to expose the whole regime that the killers had built.
I mean, the obvious question is, how did you get them to talk to you?
But it sounds as though it wasn't a problem at all.
These men have never been removed from power.
They're still in power.
They've never been forced to admit what they've done is wrong.
And therefore, they've been able to cling to the lie, namely the victor's history, that they've told ever since 1965, justifying their actions and imposing that Version of the events on their whole society.
And when they met me as an American, knowing that the United States supported, participated in, and ultimately helped to ignore and deny what had happened, they were open immediately.
I want to show one little clip here, and it is of one of the main characters, Anwar Kongo.
Just tell us a little bit about him by way of introducing this.
Anwar Kongo was in fact the 41st perpetrator whom I filmed.
He was more boastful than anyone else, but underpinning it was a shame, a pain, a trauma.
And I recognize that the boasting and guilt are two sides of the same coin.
I lingered on him, and he's the one who started to propose these ever more elaborate dramatizations.
Almost as though he was trying to run away from what he knows is wrong about what he did.
So there's your winner.
Yeah, I'm just looking at IMDB and who produced it.
There's some pretty heavy hitters on this.
This is way, way heavier hitters than Dirty Wars.
Yeah, Dirty Wars is lightweight material.
Yeah, yeah.
I'd have to see this one to know for sure.
Yeah, I mean, I'd like to see both of them.
Actually, I think Dirty Wars is played.
I've seen parts of it.
It's good, but it's just basically pounding the drone program and, you know, Obama.
I mean, it's very...
It's just that Skahill stuff, you know?
It's just that...
You know, Democracy Now is perfect.
I've never seen this guy on Democracy Now.
This is, you know, and she's a big nutball about East Timor.
But I don't know that this guy's ever been on Democracy Now.
I mean, he probably has, but not like Scahill.
No.
Oh, by the way, it's out today, John.
Do you hear this?
Do you know what this is?
Can you name that tune?
This is just the intro.
House of Cards.
Name that.
No, it's not House of Cards.
Sorry.
No.
You may recognize it.
Hannibal.
No, I'm sorry, it's not.
That is incorrect.
The bleeding dead.
No, but you're getting closer.
One more try.
The living dead.
The walking dead.
The dead.
Recognize it now.
That, my friend, is Pussy Riot.
Oh, Pussy Riot's got their new album.
It's an album.
No, it's their new single.
It's two minutes and 14 seconds long.
It's a short single.
And this, of course, is...
I get the Walking Dead part now.
It's funny.
Yeah, exactly.
None of the girls actually sing on this track.
Oh, why should they?
They're too pretty.
The title of the track is Putin Will Teach You How to Love the Motherland.
In fact, I think that's the entire lyric.
One, two, one, two.
Putin will teach his love.
Mother man! Mother man!
Mother man!
Putin, Putin, Putin!
And of course, the video, as predicted, is them being whipped by Cossacks.
Thanks.
Thank you.
Of course.
It's great.
You nailed it when you saw it.
They were whipped by Cossacks at the Olympics, supposedly, but they were actors, and it was used for this video.
And when you see it, you see that the Cossacks are actually part of the crew, too.
They're actually filming part of the video.
Oh, they show that?
Yeah, and somehow they got their footage.
It's amazing how that happens.
Meanwhile, the news media took that one right with them.
Laps it up.
I swear to God, the actual footage from the Cossacks whipping them, it would have been only better if the Cossacks had Google Glass and they were using that video.
That would have been the only thing better.
That would have been a topper.
And these girls, and they're so hot.
Every single one of them is smoking hot.
Activists don't come in this packaging, is my experience.
This is rigged.
And they're not even lip syncing the words.
They're just blabbing around?
Well, they do the kind of the punk thing where you have the mic and you bend over so you can't see.
It's like a Milli Vanilli job.
Dance around a lot so they don't notice your mouth is nowhere at all in sync with the words.
It takes too much work to get it in sync.
Yeah.
It's really genius.
That's Britney Spears-level money.
Yeah, right.
It really, really is genius.
Genius, I say.
What are they trying to accomplish?
Well, it's just NGO-funded stuff.
Just F Russia, F Putin.
I want to solicit somebody out there, one of our producers who likes to do clips and stuff.
I want to hear...
There used to be a thing on Hogan's Heroes, which they're re-running now on some of the channels.
I want a version of...
Colonel Clink.
Hogan!
I want...
Putin!
You want someone to...
Oh, okay.
That may be hard.
I also think it's a reference that may not work on most people anymore.
I think we can revitalize it.
Because I think you have a clip.
You play something.
I need it.
There's a kicker at the end where someone goes, Putin!
Putin!
But it's got to be a better voice than mine.
Let's move over to Ukraine, because we have boots on the ground in Ukraine, as you can well imagine.
We have one of our producers, a knight, actually, but who, for some understandable reasons, does not want to be mentioned by name, but his boots on the ground, and he has been doing some research for us.
And I think he did something very interesting.
If you really wanted to know the truth, in any society...
If you really want to get what the public is feeling, what the public is thinking, the person you want to talk to is obviously a webcam girl.
And he surveyed a couple of them.
He says, Russian-speaking Eastern Ukrainian cam girls were telling me that they and their Russophone friends were not pro-Russia, despite what I kept hearing on the news.
Therefore, thusly, why?
Because I decided to do some research.
Webcam girl number one.
Smoking hot studies economics.
Ethnic Ukrainian, but with Russian as mother tongue.
This is a survey you will not hear anywhere, ladies and gentlemen.
No, this is true.
Did not think joining EU made economic sense yet, maybe in ten years.
She's not pleased with what has happened in Kiev.
She talks of armed protesters overthrowing the president.
Interesting.
Interesting.
A new parliament forming and kicking ex-president out, voting for themselves a new cabinet, and she asks me, is this democracy?
When I ask if she then is a Yanukovych supporter, she replies, hell no, he's horrible.
Unfortunately, though, many wish to kill him.
I do not wish this.
And that is webcam girl number one.
Webcan girl number two, also smoking hot, ethnic Ukrainian with Russian as mother tongue, apparently not studying economics.
Can also speak Ukrainian, lives in a big city in the east, hates Yanukovych and supports Kiev actions.
Says that most in her city are pro-Ukraine, anti-Yanukovych.
Just because she, they speak Russian does not mean they are pro-Russia.
Is sick of all the violence in her city and in Ukraine in general.
Is afraid of war.
Quote, poor Ukraine, poor Crimea, she keeps saying.
A couple other people I've spoken with, native Ukrainian speakers from Kiev, are not against uses of the Russian language.
When I told them I've actually started to learn to speak Russian, they said, I hope you don't hate me.
They replied, why would we hate you?
We speak Russian too.
So that is a survey from boots on the ground.
And that, of course, really does tell you something about what's happening.
But there's some annoying messaging going on here in the United States.
And it was interesting to watch this weekend because CNN clearly had received a message, even though the president apparently did not attend the national security briefing.
You caught that?
Yeah, I find that peculiar.
Because the guy is not engaged.
And what he was doing, we'll talk about later.
He was raising money, essentially.
So they had everybody.
Brolf was on, and even Fareed Zakaria.
By the way, before you go on, him raising money, he's doing it for his own, he's creating a PAC, and he intends to have one of the greatest political mailing lists, which he's going to steal, essentially, from himself, and he's going to rent it to all these politicos, and from himself, and he's going to rent it to all these politicos, and that's going to make Do you think we could sell our list to him?
Our list is not for sale.
Oh, you sure?
Yes.
So Fareed Zakaria was even out.
And we know Fareed Zakaria, besides him being an anti-constitutional douchebag, who actually says we should get rid of the Constitution, he has said this.
Yes.
He has lunches and drinks with the President all the time.
So it is my belief that he had a chat...
And he was sent on his merry way during the weekend, mind you, because he always tapes his show on Thursdays or Fridays.
So he had to work, and he was doing a live shot with Brolf, and he was bringing the message.
Now, interesting what that message was.
It's a two-parter.
Here he is first with Brolf.
Let's find out what he's learning.
Farid, what the President of the United States says, as he just did a few minutes ago...
And Brolf is even setting it up.
He's like, hey, you were just there with the President.
What did he really say?
In the White House, he says there will be costs of any military intervention in Ukraine.
He didn't define what those costs are, but nobody realistically thinks the U.S. or the EU or NATO are going to get involved militarily in what's going on in Ukraine.
What is he talking about?
Financial sanctions, if you will, or political sanctions against Russia if there is a formal military intervention in Ukraine?
I think the president was wise to leave it vague because you never in international relations want to specify in advance, you know, what you're going to do.
You want to leave all your options on the table.
But you're right, Wolf.
Probably there isn't a military option here for the United States or for Europe.
But there are...
Economic sanctions.
There is a G8 meeting coming up, a summit.
Remember, the G8 was the seven richest countries of the world invited Russia to be part of that exclusive club because it surrendered during the Cold War, became part of the international community.
That could be something I would very seriously consider, whether Russia's membership in the G8 could be suspended.
There are those kinds of acts.
Russia very much wants to be considered a leading power.
And if it were to send troops in in an overt invasion, I think Russia should be suspended from the G8. Let's talk about this for a second.
Okay, before you do that, there's something he said in there that caught my attention.
Okay.
He said Russia surrendered during the Cold War.
What's he talking about?
Oh, I didn't catch that.
That's an excellent catch.
This is why audio is so good and why two sets of ears is better.
Did he really say that?
Yes!
Let's roll that back for a second.
His membership in the G8 could be suspended.
Let's go back just a little bit more.
That exclusive club, because it surrendered during the Cold War.
Wow, good catch.
It became a member of that exclusive club because it surrendered during the Cold War.
Bullcraft.
What is he talking about?
The G8, and of course I did a little research on the G8 because I couldn't remember, it really is an energy drinking club.
And Russia, and it started in 1973, the height of the oil crisis...
It's a drinking club where they drink energy drinks?
Yeah, bread bowl.
It started in 73 or maybe 75 now that I'm reading it.
And it was France.
It was the oil guys.
France, Germany, Italy, Japan, UK, United States.
That was the G6. And then they brought in the Scandinavians because, of course, they had a lot of oil.
We figured that out.
It was the G7. And then in 1998, we brought in Russia.
Because they surrendered.
Because they surrendered 10 years ago, apparently.
Because they surrendered 10 years earlier at the Cold War.
And, you know, Russia was an energy supplier.
So this is the big thing.
Ooh, we're going to kick you out of the G8. Who cares?
It's stupid.
It's completely nonsensical.
It's not even G8. Europe gets to sit there with the president of the EU, the president of the council.
It's a total drinking club.
What has ever come out of the G8? Nothing.
Nothing.
Okay.
WTO meetings, things happen.
Yes, that's different.
And he may be confused because WTO, they were recently admitted.
That's different than the G8. But anyway, this is the big thing.
And I think that's why the president doesn't give a crap because there's going to be no engagement.
And this is the message from Fareed.
Now, Fareed did something bad here.
Because, see, I watched all the news channels, because I was, as I said, I had the birthday party last night, so I was prepping all day yesterday.
And I'm seeing every night, it's like, oh, 2,000 troops, troops, the Senate troops!
And Farid Zakaria blows it by saying that that's not true, that there is, you know, this turns out to be a hoax.
And immediately, Brolf shuts him up and takes him over to the two other shills in the studio to talk about how dangerous it is.
And there's a huge lie in here.
What is going on now is very low-grade activity.
As you know, there was one report about 2,000 Russian troops coming on an aircraft, but that has not been confirmed, even though it was rumored for several hours.
And it does not, again, right now, does not appear to be true.
Stand by, Fareed, Gloria Borger.
Shut up!
Shut up!
Get him off!
Send it to Gloria Borger!
And Jim Schudo are here with me in the Situation Room.
Jim, the Russians have already got some sort of explanation of why there are at least some Russian troops in Crimea.
Wow!
So Fareed literally just said, it's not true.
And then Brol says, hey, hey, I've got people in the studio here to prove that it's true.
The Russian ambassador to the U.N., Vitaly Churkin, just saying to cameras a short time ago, less than an hour ago, that this movement of troops falls within the agreement that Russia has with Ukraine.
So they're saying that this is legal, not an invasion, but they're coming in under the auspices of a deal that they had with Ukrainian authorities.
So they're creating a narrative here short of an invasion.
But another thing that stands in mind.
What?
I thought it was over.
No, no, no.
Wait for it.
Here comes the big lie.
I got some guidance earlier today before we had confirmation that these were Russian troops on the ground.
And someone said to me, you know, I asked the question about, is Russia planning a Georgia-like invasion?
And this few years ago, Russian troops actually did invade the neighboring country.
Shut up!
Shut up!
But this is in the New York Times today, John.
It's in the...
Yeah.
It's in the New York Times.
Here, let me read it to you.
You know, you stay with the old...
You got a narrative you worked on.
It serves a purpose.
So let's use it.
But it's bullshit, boss.
It's bullshit, boss.
We're using it.
Okay, boss.
It really, really is egregious.
Okay, this is the New York Times.
Yeah, you mean the guys who use native advertising, those guys?
James F. Jeffrey was Mr.
Bush's Deputy National Security Advisor in August 2008 and first informed that Russian troops were moving into Georgia.
And I pulled a couple of articles.
So here's the Los Angeles Times.
Not too shabby, I would say.
I just pulled one from November 17, 2008, where the headline is, correct, Georgia's shameful attack on South Ossetia.
Which is what actually happened.
Shakersvili, who was the shill for the United States, attacked South Ossetia and the Russians retaliated to save their Russian passport holders.
But to see the New York Times, Peter Baker, in news analysis underworld today, actually stating that Russia invaded Georgia is a lie of epic proportions.
And yeah, there may be a narrative, but it's unacceptable.
To you.
Yeah, that's true.
Let's go to my favorite bald guy, Doug Herbert, who's in the capital of Crimea, where all this action's taking place.
And here's what he says during this period where the Russians are invading.
I'm not quite sure where Clipham's...
Russians not in capital.
Sorry.
We are in the center of Semperopol, and while we've heard many reports, and we ourselves have seen military troop transport trucks, some with Russian license plates, on the outskirts, on the roads around the Crimean capital here, we have not seen, I have not seen, any tanks rolling down the streets.
I haven't seen armed Russian soldiers patrolling the streets of this capital.
We have to be just very careful before we ramp up the rhetoric and talk about an armed invasion.
Oh, okay.
Well, that's not the message we were seeing here.
In fact, I have...
See...
Oh, this may be the Scandinavian news.
To Ukraine now, where a show of force from Russia threatens to destabilize the newly formed government.
Destabilize!
That headline alone should get this woman fired.
It's completely trumped up crap.
President Barack Obama warned Russia about inflaming tensions.
Any military intervention in Ukraine, he said, would come with costs.
Now, he didn't say that, but here is the woman on the ground is even funnier.
Susan.
Susan.
Wendy, Ukraine has confirmed that Russian attack helicopters and military transport planes...
It's like attack helicopters, which is almost like saying assault rifles or, you know, guard dogs or guardians of reality.
Yeah, attack helicopter.
...flown into Ukrainian airspace.
I got attack helicopters flying over my house twice a week.
The airspace over Crimea has now been closed to all commercial traffic.
The escalation began...
Because it's such a hotbed of tourism.
That's not true.
It's not true?
No, that's a total lie.
Well, duh.
Surprise, surprise.
In fact, I have a clip, but I'm going to tell you what the report is.
There's a bunch of, it looks like Russian militia, but they're not.
They're Crimean militia guys that have taken over the airport.
Yeah, exactly.
The commercial airport, where they say it's banned, and they have...
We've made sure that traffic keeps coming and going, and all they're there for, they say, is to prevent a bunch of troublemakers coming in from Kiev.
And if somebody comes in, including the guy who took over the place, they're going to probably send him back.
Is that the armed militia in Crimea?
Yeah, yeah.
Let me play it.
I want to hear it.
I want to hear it.
The airport in Crimea's regional center of Simferopol is operating normally.
Reports say even after armed groups stormed airport grounds and moved in and out of the control tower.
The dozen or so men are dressed in military fatigues, the same gear as the men who are still present around the local parliament in Simferopol.
After another group seized government buildings and raised the Russian flag, they say they're part of a volunteer group called the People's Militia of Crimea.
We are here to ensure general order.
We don't want radicals coming on planes from Kiev.
People from Ukraine coming here and making trouble.
It was our initiative in order to stop the fire from spreading into Crimea.
That's why we don't want radicalism coming here.
We don't want fascism in Crimea.
We want peace here.
Oh, wow.
That's a great report, John, because listen to the boob from the Scandinavian TV. She goes up to one of these non-labeled troops, Closed to all commercial traffic.
The escalation began early this morning at the airports.
Who is behind the mask?
Troops took control of the airport in the Crimean capital.
Many believe these are Russian boots on Ukrainian ground.
Kiev calls that an armed insurrection.
He tried to get answers.
Can you tell me who you are?
No comment, no.
No comment.
Are you Russian troops?
Nothing.
Are you Russian troops?
Well, they just said you're aliens from outer space.
You might as well have.
There must be aliens from outer space that have taken over the Crimean airport.
So that report is bogus.
I really do trust France 24 more than I do these other guys.
Because we got Doug's there, and they have other people there.
I mean, it's just a better report.
I have a couple clips from Radio Ukraine International.
Ooh, that would be interesting.
And they're all short, which is really great.
Crimean Prime Minister Sergei Aksyonov has put all the security and law enforcement agencies in the autonomous republic under his personal control and appealed to Russian President Vladimir Putin for assistance in maintaining peace and accord in the Crimea.
Aksyonov said in a TV interview that a Republican referendum on expanding the status and powers of the Crimean Autonomous Republic, previously scheduled for May 25, was rescheduled for March 30.
He said the referendum would not mean the Crimea's secession from Ukraine.
All right, so that sounds credible.
They're going to move the referendum up for the Autonomous Republic of Crimea to March 30th, and of course, they'll break away, and they've got a good thing going on down there.
What else do we have?
Oh, this is about...
So this is the genius of this whole setup.
Of course, Ukraine owes Russia, Gazprom, I should say, owes them a lot of money, $2 billion roughly for gas they've not paid for yet, and they get a sweetheart deal.
I think 1,000 cubic zirconias of gas is about $400 on the open market.
They're getting it for like $250,000.
And they want to continue this deal.
Ukraine's national oil and gas company, Naftohaz, owes Russia's Gazprom nearly $2 billion for the supplied natural gas, according to energy and coal industry minister Yuri Prodan.
He said at a press conference on Saturday that this month Russian natural gas would be imported at the same price as in February, $268.50 per thousand cubic meters.
He didn't rule out that in the second quarter the price might exceed $400.
Naftohaz is holding active negotiations with Gazprom on keeping the price at the current level.
But there are no contacts between the governments so far because of the Russian side's reluctance to make concessions, the minister said.
OK, I have a couple of comments, a couple of theories and two extraneous clips if we want to play them.
First of all, I do not read Tom Clancy novels, because I have better things to do with my life, like reading legislation.
Apparently, his latest work, Command Authority.
Are you up on the Clancy novels at all?
No, I wait for the movies.
Then I watch them on HBO. In this, the chief scoundrel...
Russian President Valery Volodin, an ex-KGB man, and his main enforcer Roman Talanov, who as young men foresaw the collapse of the Soviet Union, have since demonstrated their talent for survival.
A dictator in all but name, Volodin is bent on re-establishing Russian dominance over its former satellite states, beginning with an ultimately NATO-thwarted military foray into Estonia, followed by a bigger, nastier push in Ukraine.
That Clancy has a knack, doesn't he?
He's got a knack for doing that.
Yeah, well.
We'll see the Estonian action.
So the Ukraine has stopped.
It was put limits on cash withdrawals.
200 euros is your limit.
So you can't take any money out.
1,000...
What are they called?
That wouldn't be dollars, would it?
Yeah, about 1,000 euros.
So 1,500...
Hernias.
15,000 hernias I will inform the board of the IMF later on today so that it is fully appraised of the situation.
As I said, next week is fact-finding, beginning of a dialogue, preliminary assessment and discussion of the building blocks of Discussion of the building blocks for Ukraine.
One thing that we discussed as well, which I'm concerned about, is the multiple numbers that I read here and there.
I think it's highly premature to assess Financial needs.
Numbers here, numbers there.
We need to rely on facts.
Numbers here, numbers there.
Numbers are so everywhere.
Numbers, numbers, numbers, numbers.
We got new numbers.
I don't know.
It's premature to talk about numbers.
What kind of numbers we got?
We need to rely on the situation as it is.
We do not see anything that is critical, that is worthy of panic at the moment.
And we would certainly...
I hope that authorities refrain from throwing lots of numbers, which are really...
Forget bombs.
Stop throwing numbers.
Molotov numbers.
Stop doing it.
They're meaningless until they have been assessed properly.
They're meaningless.
We need the building blocks.
They're meaningless.
Stop throwing numbers.
Numbers here, numbers there.
It's not helpful.
We need good data, no numbers.
I watched the United Nations.
It was supposed to be a debate, but it was more kind of like Susan Powers talking like this, telling everyone they're horrible.
She's starting to sound like Kissinger.
Yeah, it's very interesting.
Well, I think the Russian should not be invading the sovereignty of Ukraine.
Yeah, Susan Powers, our UN ambassador.
The Russian ambassador did say something very interesting.
I pulled from the Russian dot gov.
I think it's Putin dot gov.
Let me see.
Somewhere I have the actual wording.
He asked for permission to deploy troops.
It's interesting because under the actual law or part of the constitution of the Russian Federation, it's very hard for me because I don't speak Russian, so I have to get translations and stuff.
But apparently it's kind of the same permission he asked for when we're doing peace missions.
So it's kind of like a peace mission approval process.
The Russian ambassador to the United Nations said it a little more differently, which I thought was just interesting to note, because words do matter.
Mr.
Axionov, prime minister of Crimea, he went to the president of Russia and he made a request to provide assistance to restore peace in Crimea.
This information is an appeal about Mr.
Yanukovych.
His removal from office, we thought, was done in not a legal way.
As a result of this statement or appeal, the President of Russia, under our constitutional procedures, sent to the Council of the Federation the following request.
Due to the extraordinary situations taking place in Ukraine, threats to the lives of Russian citizens, our compatriots, the military people of the Russian Federation that are there, that have been sent there under the agreement that we have with Ukraine and to Crimea.
Under the relevant parts of the Constitution, we have gone to the Parliament and asked for the possibility of use of force by the Russian Federation on Ukraine until there is a normalization of the civic and political situation in Ukraine, end of quote.
So I'd like to draw your attention to, it says, on the territory of Ukraine, not against Ukraine, as my Ukrainian colleague said, but on the territory of Ukraine.
I don't understand how those guys can get any business done with these translations.
That is the way they're hearing it, I guess.
You can't have a conversation with people when that's in your ear.
And what makes it worse is that some languages don't really translate well.
They don't translate well because something at the end of the sentence has to be incorporated at the beginning of the sentence if it's into a different language.
And also some languages are wordy.
Yeah.
It's a real problem.
When I give a speech overseas to Japanese or something, especially the Japanese, you have to remember to talk very slow like this.
And if you're excited or excitable, you get going at a high speed and the translators, they just give up.
And they just say whatever they feel like.
Yeah, this guy had a couple of those moments.
I was a bit worried about it.
So, I think maybe we should just look at some analysis.
I have a couple thoughts about it.
Do you have any analysis on the situation at hand?
I don't think there's anything different than what we talked about in the last show in so far as what we think is going on.
Well, I'm thinking that one thing that could happen, we could have some unfortunate accidents with some pipelines.
Which, it would be nice if we could do that, by the way, because then we could have emergency gas sent from the U.S. And that ultimately, I think, is what a lot of this is about.
But there was another thing that I was unaware of.
The port of Odessa, which is in Ukraine, obviously.
Yeah, down at the bottom on the left-hand side of the country.
Yeah, apparently that is a huge transit route for cocaine into Europe from South America.
That would make sense.
Yeah, and I'm thinking that we should keep our eyes on Odessa.
And Odessa has not really come up in the conversation yet, so it's due.
Now, Crocodile also comes from Odessa because the kids there, they can't afford the good stuff.
And that's why they get that face-eating stuff, your face falls off, the Crocodile.
Remind me about that.
Is it bath salts?
No.
It turned up a couple of years ago in Russia.
It's a cheap version of opioids because it doesn't contain it.
I think it's Drano and some other stuff.
It's not good.
It's not really a drug.
It gets them high, but then your arm falls off.
Crocodile.
That's where the crocodile craze started because a lot of kids got hooked on drugs coming through the port of Odessa, but they can't really afford it, and it's all meant for transit into the EU. And I wonder, could El Capo, El Champo, what's his name, arrests have anything to do with this port?
Guzman.
Yes.
Could we be rekindling the importance of Odessa?
Well, there's something.
We still haven't gotten to the bottom of that.
We don't even know if it's him.
So there's something up with, yeah, maybe.
This is a pretty big story if it extends to Mexico.
So I don't have a grasp of it.
If what you say is even possible, I definitely do not have any...
I'm done.
I'm lost.
Right.
Well, I just made the connection because of the timing.
And I saw this BBC report from 2013.
It's kind of like this perky little girl running around.
I'm here in Odessa.
It's the main report for drugs and...
And, you know, they're hiding drugs in pineapples and water heaters, and it's crazy.
Odessa is a big Coke transport, and it's all from South America.
So, not in play yet, but I think we need to be on the lookout to see what happens with that.
Meanwhile, back at the White House, I think this is Senator...
I think it's Corker.
Well, before you go there, let's play the clip of Obama, which is the main clip everyone played.
And there's just because I want to have a comment.
I have a comment on it.
And this is the Obama speaks out, speaks about, speaks out about that.
And then the comment I have, I'm going to say right now.
Well, don't say when he says I'll just play it.
Any violation of Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity would be deeply destabilizing, which is not in the interest of Ukraine, Russia, or Europe.
It would represent a profound interference in matters that must be determined by the Ukrainian people.
It would be a clear violation of Russia's commitment to respect the independence and sovereignty and borders of Ukraine and of international laws.
And just days after the world came to Russia for the Olympic Games, it would invite the condemnation of nations around the world.
Because of the gay thing.
Now this guy, who went out of his way to trash the Olympics and put into play all the, oh, we're going to have terrorism at the Olympics.
Oh, the State Department is saying, be very careful if you're stupid enough to go.
And stray dogs.
And then he throws it in at the end of this thing?
Stray dogs.
Strands and straight dogs.
I mean, it's like, what?
Wow.
I'm telling you.
Yeah.
I need...
Well, I don't know if my clip is going to be any good now.
What are you learning, Jim?
What are you learning, Jim?
What are you learning?
Hey, Jim, what are you learning?
What are you learning?
I think this is the guy in front of the White House.
This is about the G8 thing.
I may have to cut this off.
Wolf, what we're learning now is that the White House is basically sending a diplomatic warning to Russia over events in Ukraine just a few moments ago, hearing from a senior administration official.
No, that's not it.
Here's Bob Corker.
This is the one I wanted.
Much of what I think they're going to need to do is going to take congressional approval, and we stand ready to work with them.
I think you know we're working this weekend.
They're working all weekend, John, getting some...
These idiots.
Yep.
...with Senator Menendez to put in place some work.
Some sanctions.
But as you mentioned, sanctions are one of the routes.
There are trade issues that we can deal with.
Trade issues.
Okay.
There's only one trade issue we have.
That's gas!
Other countries in the region, I think, are going to be stepping out and very strongly condemning what Russia is doing.
At the end of the day...
Does he sound a lot like Dana Carvey doing...
George Bush.
Not gonna die.
McCain's buddy.
That's right.
McCain's buddy.
Russia needs to be isolated, basically.
Needs to be isolated.
To even think that they're a member of the D8 is almost an insult.
It's an insult!
What is it?
What is it, John?
This is now the third time.
What is the big deal about Russia being in or out of the G8? What is the big insult?
What is the big problem?
Autocratic petro-state.
It's a petro-state.
Yeah, like we aren't.
The G8 is something that's set up for industrialized democracies.
The fact that they're even a member, it should be greatly questioned.
Certainly we should not attend a G8 meeting in their country.
But I think what you're going to see is...
Okay, here's an idea.
Maybe they're going to kick Russia out and bring a new person in so it can still be the G8? China?
It's a thought.
They won't do that.
They don't want China in that thing.
They've been keeping China out.
They could just make the EU a full-time member instead of only Germany.
They're not going to kick Russia out.
This is bullcrap.
It's an orchestrated chorus of isolation.
An orchestrated cause of isolation.
I do declare, Claire...
Lindsey Graham, that's who I'm thinking of.
Or Frank Underwood.
Claire, we need to isolate the Russians.
Once the Russians are isolated, then we can clearly go all the way with this.
I don't care what he wants with his nuclear power plant subsidies.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to stutter on that.
We'll have to do the scene over.
I think you're going to see NATO, not militarily, but doing some consultative work with each of the countries.
Consulting!
Ah, yes, my favorite.
NATO consulting.
Well, we know what that means.
If anyone comes and says, hi, I'm a consultant from NATO, your country is about to be overthrown by NGOs and consultants in the form of terrorism.
Speaking with one voice, but I think we need to do everything we can to isolate this country, which obviously is still smarting.
Now, John, if I ask you, was isolation not exactly what happened in the Cold War?
Apparently.
We still have isolated Cuba.
What good has that ever done?
Well, that's not entirely true.
Everyone's rushing into Cuba.
They're opening that up.
Everyone but us.
Well, hello.
You can't legally go buy property.
The other Canadians can.
No, it's all happening now.
It's all happening.
It's all bullcrap.
It's nuts.
It is.
It is bullcrap.
And Putin, he's probably just sitting back going, Putin!
Whatev?
Whatevsky?
I did catch something, and it actually came to me in German first.
And then I tried to find the source of it.
I found the source in the form of Benjamin Netanyahu.
And then I went back to my favorite...
messaging ceremony to confirm.
Here's Merkel first.
Listen to what she says.
Okay, it was German, but you might have caught the gist of it.
Something about the United States and Israel.
No, she calls it the Jewish State of Israel.
Oh, okay.
This is, I think, something new.
Here's Bibi Netanyahu at the American...
Ooh, I think it's the American Jewish We Care Foundation something.
Well, what we need to see with the Palestinians when we make a deal is that they're resigned to the fact that they'll have to make a genuine peace with Israel.
And that means finally recognizing the Jewish state.
The Jewish state.
This is new.
Because it's always been the state of Israel.
And when I went back to my go-to source, which is the President's State of the Union...
A Jewish state that knows America will always be at their side.
This is the first time the President has done that.
He calls it the Jewish state.
And your interpretation of all this change in nomenclature is?
Well, Benjamin Netanyahu actually will tell us himself in the reverse explanation why the Palestinians do not want to recognize Israel as the Jewish state instead of the state of Israel.
How do they have the temerity not to recognize the Jewish state, the nation state of the Jewish people?
Do they not know that we've been here for the last 3,800 years?
They don't know that this is the land of the Bible?
That this is where Jewish history and Jewish identity was forged?
Why don't they accept that?
Why do they insist on not recognizing us?
There is a reason.
Because once you accept the fact that Israel is the nation state of the Jewish people, You end all claims.
You end territorial claims, and you end refugee claims.
You end the so-called right of return.
The right of return claim, I think, is the big one.
So this is a negotiating tactic.
And now that I've looked into it a little bit, because I'd never heard this before, and I caught it, and I started looking around, and some other...
Let's see, the Hill actually had caught this.
And he started calling it the Jewish state.
And it is a hard-line negotiating tactic against the Palestinians, or I guess with the Palestinians.
But once they say, yes, it's a Jewish state, then there can be no more right of return because, you know, you're not a Jew.
It's geopolitically, I think it's an interesting change.
It's a dangerous road in the modern world.
For one thing, you can have Indian uprisings in North America that would use the same sort of thing as an argument.
I like that.
I hadn't even thought of that, but you're absolutely right about that.
And if you could just keep dragging that out anywhere, it becomes problematic for pretty much any modern civilization or country.
So it's a bad idea.
I mean, it's a bad idea for everyone.
It's maybe a good strategy for these guys, but their strategies are not getting anywhere.
There's an impasse operation.
This is never going to be resolved.
It's an avoidable situation as far as I'm concerned.
It's just a dead end.
These guys are just at loggerheads with each other.
And who was there before the Jews?
I'm not even getting into that conversation.
Apparently they were there for 3,800 years.
Yeah, but there was about 3,900 years ago who was there.
The Pilgrims?
The Pilgrims.
Hold on a second.
I think someone may have sent one for you.
Let me see if this will work.
Why do people still send Windows Media audio files?
You know, I get a lot of that.
Really?
I get none of it.
I always get MP3s.
No, I think that...
Oh, waves.
Waves are good.
Yeah, waves are good.
I think what happens is people get them from their, maybe their Xbox they're using.
There could be, but there's defaults.
For example, when you're...
This will have to go off to tech.
Why?
If you have CDs, the first thing you want to do with them is you put them in your PC, if you have a PC, and then you rip them.
With your Windows audio program, which is Windows Media.
But you go reset the settings, so it doesn't rip them as WMVs or whatever they are.
You set it so it's like a 256K MP3 file, and it's set on automatic, so every disc you put in is automatically ripped into an album on your PC as MP3s, which can be moved around a lot easier than the other...
File types.
Yes.
Another tech moment with John C. Dvorak.
And with a good collection of music that you can do whatever you want.
I'm going to play this file that came in from producer Jonathan.
He thinks the third one is the one you want.
Putin!
Putin!
I think that's the one.
Okay, I'll work on it.
I'll see if I can enhance, rotate, and zoom in.
Yeah, good work.
I'd like to have a German accent, and that would be even better.
Since we're kind of on the tech thing, we haven't talked about it all, and we don't really need to talk about it.
We just need to gloat.
And the CEO of Mount Gaulx, I guess that's how you pronounce it, says the Japanese Bitcoin exchange has gone bust.
Woo!
The company is filing for bankruptcy after a series of technical glitches interrupted trading.
The CEO also says 850,000 bitcoins have gone missing.
Oh, really?
Oh, really?
Those are worth almost half a billion dollars.
Yeah, there you go.
There you have it.
I should have sold when you told me.
Eh, well, you know, it can bounce around.
Now I have them, but can I still sell them?
Are they selling them?
Yeah, there's about 40 exchanges you can sell them at.
Yeah.
I think it's funny that everyone got ripped off.
Perhaps so they did.
People, stay strong!
The Bitcoin community will prevail!
That's Reddit.
That's Reddit slash R slash Bitcoin.
Yeah.
Get ready for the tidal wave of negativity.
Don't worry, Bitcoin community will stay strong.
Okay.
I think it's time.
I agree with you.
I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
All right, we do have some people to thank for today's show, number 596.
We've got 597 coming up on Thursday.
Sir J.D. in San Jose, $146.
He actually had an interesting number.
It was 146.00.
Yeah.
So it's 1 for 600.
Yeah.
I like that.
1 for 600.
Actually, we may put that in the newsletter.
I like that a lot.
Maybe that's a donation that people can afford.
Exactly.
Not too many people affording the $600 donation, but we do appreciate those, of course.
Yeah, of course.
Yael Azowski in Montreal, Quebec, 13399.
Yael is his name as he pronounced that, Y-A-E-L. He mentions it here, but I actually looked it up.
He just went to a spinning class in Vienna.
He's in Austria, I guess.
Not really in Montreal.
Or unless it's Vienna.
No, Vienna, Austria.
And I'm a new man, and since we need human resources to be both informed and fit, this donation is to start a league of no-agenda spinners.
Imagine how much more seriously people will take no-agenda spinners.
Yeah.
When the resources are looking slim and dissecting mainstream media propaganda on the fly, sign up for local spending classes and insert at least one piece of no agenda analysis or leave off some CDs.
Yes.
You keep dropping the ball on that, people.
Noagendacd.com.
In the post-class discussion, also due to a high level of MILF-DILF in spinning classes.
That's the ratio.
The MILFs are much higher than the DILFs.
It's about 20 MILFs to 1 DILF. This will help.
There'll be more MILF-DILFs.
This will help cash out that 69 karma, so many human resources are still clutching onto it for dear life.
Think of the possibilities, people.
Okay.
Anyway.
Okay.
Onward with the donations.
We have no 1111s, even though we're reopening the club.
Today.
So you should be warned.
If we're warned, you can see what happens.
We do have a number of people backed up for the club.
So to speak.
Irvin Owens Jr., Alameda, California, $110.01.
We've got to scroll down.
Scroll down.
I can't scroll down if this big calendar is in the way.
Chris Rowald Tengisdal.
I would say Tengisdal.
Tengisdal.
Tengisdal.
Chris Roald Tengisdal, Norway.
$100 from Norway.
Christian Sant.
He wants Christian Sant.
He wants to know where our evergreen clips are kept.
Yes, noagendacd.com is the place to go.
Okay, go there.
Sir, and he wanted to know about that too.
Sir Brian Barrow in Wooten Bassett Wiltshire.
Black Knight, Sir Brian Barrow.
Black Knight.
Just wanted to weigh in with the donation thing.
You guys seem to have fallen off.
Donations have fallen off.
I shudder to think what you would do.
What I would do if you decided to call it a day.
Or if you were, yeah, okay.
He's worried.
Good.
Because we got this note from Anonymous here.
This is a person that has, I'm going to read this note, that sent in $100.
And it's all she could afford.
Please accept the ridiculously small donation for which I must remain anonymous.
I wish I could give you more, but my life sucks in more ways than I can possibly describe right now.
And I am totally and completely broke.
I promise that as soon as I am back on my feet, I will bump myself up to a less pathetic monthly donation.
I will still need to remain anonymous.
as I am a performing artist in the public eye who will probably never have the guts to publicly acknowledge how much your show means to me.
Ellen DeGeneres?
Shameful, I know, but in my defense, many other artists count on me to raise money so that we can keep doing what we do.
Wow.
And to raise this money, I have to spend much of my time and energy sucking up to Obama bots and Republic douches alike.
Wow.
Which brings me to why I felt it necessary to send you even the enclosed poultry amount.
For the past few years, I've been living through one personal crisis after another, family deaths galore, and now a long-term sickness, which my partner's daughter will probably never recover from.
97 weeks in the hospital and counting.
Anyway, all the BS has caused me to struggle with depression myself.
Struggle with that, that is, until one day last September when I caught John on Twit and heard him mention no agenda.
Intrigued by John's cranky charm, I listened to one episode and was completely hooked.
I began to listen to each new episode and after a few weeks I noticed the most amazing thing.
I was less depressed.
The truth...
It works!
Which was being revealed to me as I listened to your show made me less afraid and able to resist the mind control which was being slung at me from every direction just knowing that no agenda exists makes it easier to get through each crappy day.
So thank you from the bottom of my heart for the work that you do.
There must be other people out there like me who need you to cheer them up, but can't afford to support, and I hope that they will give whatever small amount they can.
I promise you that someday there will be more, with Gratitude Anonymous.
And she has a P.S. P.S., I certainly don't expect you to mention my tiny amount.
On the show, which was 100, but you may feel like you want to read this on the air if you want.
PPS, I have a crush on John.
Don't worry, though.
I am a huge lesbian.
I have never in my life been attracted to a man, but John's tell-it-like-it-is roughiness and general brilliance really made a girl think.
Hold on a second.
Slow down.
Slow down.
I'm going to just back it up for a second.
She says she has never been attracted to a man in her life.
And then pick it up from there.
But John's tell it like it is gruffiness and general brilliance really made a girl think.
Hmm.
It's every guy's dream.
That's right.
Sorry, Adam.
Uh-oh.
I like you lots, but you're too gay to be a safe crush for me.
Hey, wait a minute.
By curious is not gay.
I can flex and bend for you, baby.
Where's my appletini?
Sorry.
Gee, I'm crushed.
You should be.
Anyway, that's just an interesting note.
I love that note.
I think she's really – I read the note because I thought that she was someone that – there's a lot of people like this that are being made ill and depressed by the news and the crap that's being fed them, which is not – most of which are lies.
Well, I think this is well established.
Yes.
We've pointed out several today, even from the New York Times.
These are lies, and they're meant to make you ill.
We got an email from another source I can't name, but also royalty within the family.
And he says, remember when we had the toothpaste bombs and the new shoe bomb?
Well, he says, these are bolos.
These are BOLO alerts that are not meant for the public.
BOLO is be on lookout.
I learned.
I didn't know this.
BOLO. So these are BOLOs.
Yeah, BOLOs.
And what's happening is they're being leaked on purpose to the news media for the whole purpose is for them to...
A BOLO is not supposed to alert the general public, but they're being leaked to do exactly that to make you ill and subservient.
When you're ill, when you're sick, you will do what people tell you to do, by the way.
Yeah, that's true.
That's funny that you mention it, but yeah, if you're really, you know, sick as a dog, you're throwing up and crapping and everything in between, you're not really going to be arguing with anyone.
All right, here we go.
Oh boy.
69!
69, dude!
This is about the fifth week in a row where it's just been...
Two, two, two.
Just two.
Alec Doughty in Brisbane, Australia, 69-69.
He's got some comments we read.
Christian neighbor in East Sussex, UK. So the 69ers are out of the country now.
There's none left here in the USA. No one in America.
It's also illegal in half of our states.
Yeah, nobody seems to complain about that.
How come there wasn't a big fuss about that when a number of states in the U.S., it's illegal to perform oral sex of any form.
But yet everyone's all up in arms about some mortuary or something in Arizona that wanted to keep gays from coming in for some reason or other.
Why aren't they just irked about this other stuff that's been going on for years?
Because it makes no sense.
We can't blame Republicans for oral sex.
Oh, that's right.
You've got to blame Republicans for hating gays.
That's what you've got to hate.
That's right.
I'm sorry.
Sometimes you just need to be brought back on earth.
By the way, Christian neighbor wants us to keep the sticks going.
So there you go.
Oh, the rain sticks?
And we do have some karma for a lot of these people.
Dane Coleman at the end.
Dane Coleman, 6789 in Dayton, Ohio.
Michael Siegenthaler, 6666 from Parts Unknown.
Sir John Martinez.
Hold on, hold on.
I'm sorry.
I have to go back.
I mean, I didn't read this note from Dane Coleman.
This is your 12-hour marathon.
Do people want this, John?
Please count my vote for a special edition of No Agenda with Adam getting high as balls and John C. Dvorak using his, hey man, fake high voice the whole show.
We could do that for 12 hours.
Hey man, it can't happen.
John, I'm so baked.
I'm so baked.
So baked, man.
I'm baked.
I'm baked.
Sir John Martinez in Gilroy, California, $65.43.
Bill Hartnett in Torrance, California, $55.10.
And Michael Cosme in New York City, $55.
And the rest of these are all $50, including Sir Mark Fusco, which is pronounced Fusco, by the way.
Not Fusco.
Sorry, Fusco.
Aaron Yoho.
I got that from the Persons of Interest show.
Aaron Yoho in Fairmont, West Virginia.
William Baumann in Port Wyneme, California.
Jonathan Baldiga in Los Angeles, California.
Eric Young, Salt Lake City.
Sir Greg Brunsell in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Sir Carl Baron Malmo, Sweden.
James Butcher in Dalwineu or something.
I'm not sure.
Dalwineu?
Dalwineu.
Dalwineu.
Dalwineu, eh?
Dalwineu.
Western Australia.
And finally, Mark Tanner in Whittier, California.
We do have the club open.
Let's give a karma and a dedouching to the people who requested it in the process.
Yes.
Also, Aaron Yoho, it's his birthday.
He's on the list.
Drunk donation alert.
He says, none of my No Agenda cohorts did it for me.
That is to wish him a happy birthday, so give them a big douchebag.
Douchebag!
They know who they are.
Also tell Dame Joan Daughterfree, Sir Random Hillbilly, and Sir Kent O'Rourke, we need to arrange a meet-up.
They're all in West Virginia.
So yeah, yeah, you guys should meet up.
If someone organizes it, I'll give it a PR mention.
Yeah, of course.
Okay, so the club is open.
Now tell me, John, last we heard there were zoning issues.
Well, I didn't bring that up on the show.
I told you later that there were zoning issues.
The inspector's coming in tomorrow, and he's going to check out apparently one of the...
I know what it is.
I'm not going to bring it up to you.
What the issue is?
We have a new stage.
I think we built on stage.
What stage number was that?
Are we in poll code compliance?
No, stage four.
We have a dunk tank.
When I bring Jessica up, I'll describe it.
So the girl sits in the dunk tank and the people throw wads of money at the target.
It has to be a substantial wad in order for it to have enough mass.
The wad has to be big, but the problem is apparently the underpinnings of this dunk tank, because it's filled with water, is kind of bending the floor a little bit.
So I think that's what they're going to go after.
So I don't know how long the dunk tank is going to last.
All right, let's get into the club there, John.
Do you have the mic?
I'm ready.
MCDJJD. You got me going?
Yeah, I got you going.
Back and open for business at Club 33 with five newly built stages and new and wonderful lovely ladies looking to charm you with their beauty.
So let's give it up for the girls at Club 33 beginning with a mighty welcome and a round of applause for lovely Naomi.
Once known as the baboon girl of the Northwest Territory, she used to research wildlife.
Now she is the wildlife straight out of Canada, where she saw the northern lights.
Let her light you up, Naomi!
Now you're inaugurating stage two at the two poles will be Patricia and the Dutch bombshell.
From Australia, Jenny.
Patricia is a competitive chef and kosher butcher.
You know what that means, boys.
She knows how to choke a chicken within legal limits, of course.
Patricia should be on poll one.
Poll two is the former Playboy bunny and bartender, Jenny.
She'll stir things up for you on poll two.
Show your appreciation for these two, and let the duel begin.
Over to stage three.
Now redesigned with the see-through showers, Gina Bina.
JGB likes skydiving, skiing, and home canning.
Check out her cans, boys.
Gina Bina.
Stage four with the dung tank is Jessica from Motor City.
She's dancing in the new trapdoor cage.
Hit the target with a wad of cash, and down she goes.
Just like Detroit, she loves going down.
Jessica.
Finally make room for Rayma and Tony straight from London on stage five.
These two glasses are used to pup food like bangers and mash and spotted dick.
They love to mash your bangers and spot your you-know-what.
Put your hands together for Raymond and Tony.
Now submit Nicole and Citizen X to Champagne Room 42.
Sir Nussbaum, Mickey, and Adam await.
That's Nicole and Citizen X. Will Erica get ready for the next round of performances?
Remember, next Tuesday is amateur strip night.
Show off your girlfriend to the guys.
Pick up some extra money in the process.
Every Tuesday at Club 33.
Put the ladies to work.
And remember everybody, here at Club 33, no touching.
Five, four, three, two, one.
Fabulous.
In the morning.
And here's the karma for everybody who needed it along with the dedouching.
Shh, shh, shh, shh, shh.
You've been de-douched.
You've got karma.
Dvorak.org slash N.A. And a short list today, we say happy birthday to Aaron Yoho, celebrating with a strong donation and the Grimerica show.
Grimerica, Grimerica, get it?
33 on the 10th of March.
Happy birthday from your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe.
Almost perfect.
I messed up the end there.
Yeah, I dropped a couple lines.
Nah, you did good.
Hey, I got your out cue.
Yes.
First time ever.
That was good.
Yeah, that was good.
We apologize.
We don't have any knights today, but we do want to congratulate Sir Incognigro with his double knighthood.
Takes him up to baronet status, and we're very, very happy.
Thank you for your support of the best podcast in the universe.
Alright, let's see.
The President came out with something very weird and almost like a non-sequitur.
In the midst of all the Ukrainian stuff, and it's like, what is he doing?
Did you catch this Brothers Keeper?
No, I did not.
Yeah, it's the Brothers Keeper initiative, which was very interesting.
It was attended by Michael Bloomberg, Rahm Emanuel, but also Bill O'Reilly.
And there was a very interesting crowd, and the president got very personal on this, which he gets a total pass on, by the way.
And I spent a little time trying to figure out what this was really about.
And the first thing, the initiative is called My Brother's Keeper.
I've heard of this, and I think we've talked about this before, haven't we?
The thing is, My Brother's Keeper, of course, is a biblical reference.
And I don't understand why anyone would feel this is a good name.
Now, correct me if I'm wrong.
Am I my brother's keeper, I think is the phrase.
And this is, Cain had killed Abel.
And Cain, son of Adam and Eve.
And I don't know if it was Eve or Adam, said, hey, where's Abel?
I just, am I my brother's keeper?
But I don't know why you would want to have a brother who kills his other brother, why that reference would be a good idea for helping people.
Am I just really misunderstanding the whole idea of the phrase?
I think it evolved into...
Something else.
There must be some New Testament aspect to this that you're not discussing.
A more biblical scholar would probably...
Well, in general, I find it hypocritical for any biblical reference because of the hatred towards all things Bible because, you know, science.
Science, evolution, you know, but yet we have to thank the God for blessing our country, and am I my brother's keeper?
So here is a cut-down version of what the President said, which I felt was discussion-worthy amidst all the other stuff that's going on.
Today I'm pleased to announce that some of the most forward-looking foundations in America...
Are looking to invest at least $200 million over the next five years on top of the $150 million that they've already invested to test which strategies are working for our kids and expand them in cities across the country.
Okay.
Now, the foundations that he's talking about, so there's no government money, there's nothing else happening here other than an announcement, and his announcement is specifically about boys and men of color Which I think could also be the name of a new band where Boyz II Men and Color Me Bad got together and threw down some rhymes.
They are going to invest more money.
And it is the Annie E. Casey Foundation, the Kellogg Foundation, Open Society Foundations, that's Soros, the Ford Foundation, the Knight Foundation, the Kapor Center.
Is that Mitch Kapor?
The Kapor Center?
Or is that just coincidence?
I don't know that Mitch has a center.
The Atlantic Philanthropies, the California Endowment, the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, and Bloomberg Philanthropies.
So these are pretty big societal organizations, and they put a lot of money into a lot of things as a part of the Executives Alliance to expand opportunities for boys and men of color.
And I continue to listen because I really want to understand what this is about and what's going on, which the President actually doesn't really tell us.
I know you can meet the challenge, many of you already are, if you make the effort.
It may be hard, but you will have to reject the cynicism.
That says the circumstances of your birth or society's lingering injustices necessarily define you and your future.
Now, he's about to really take it down to a personal level.
Then if you look at the fact sheet, fact, fact sheet from the White House, the fact is that boys and men of color have a, all studies suggest, although there's no link to the studies, They have a significantly lesser chance of succeeding in today's society than, I presume, white boys.
That's not said explicitly, but that's what I guess they mean.
And by the way, the K-4 thing is Mitch K-4.
He runs it out of Oakland.
And there's a bunch of stuff I'll be reading from his blog about this exact thing as you continue.
Fifty years after Dr.
King talked about his dream...
For America's children.
Which I don't think was a dream.
Was it for children?
Oh, children.
Yes, I think it was.
Yeah.
The stubborn fact is that the life chances the average black or brown child in this country lags behind by almost every measure and is worse for boys and young men.
And by the way, the white boys, they're not doing too good either.
I would just like to point that out.
I didn't have a dad in the house.
And I was angry about it, even though I didn't necessarily realize it at the time.
I made bad choices.
I got high without always thinking about the harm that it could do.
That, by the way, I think is a huge statement, which is just, everyone's just okay with it.
Every other president in the...
Yeah, they've all chicken-crapped out of it.
I also think it's...
I didn't inhale.
Yeah, exactly.
It's really big, but, you know...
Actually, I really liked how he finishes this one particular statement.
I didn't always take school as seriously as I should have.
I made excuses.
Sometimes I sold myself short.
Wow.
That was good, by the way.
I don't know who wrote that, but wow.
When you say that, I sold myself short.
I thought that was really emotional and really good.
Now, if you think the president gets a pass on the drug thing, here's what's amazing.
He is so good.
He can make a joke where you don't understand the punchline, but when he uses the funny voice, everyone loves it.
It's almost like Eddie Murphy.
You know how Eddie Murphy can just go, and everyone laughs, and it's just funny?
The president can do this.
You tell me if you understand this joke, but listen to how he sets it up, comes with the punchline, and everyone's laughing.
And I remember when I was saying this, Christian, you may remember this, after I was finished, the guy sitting next to me said, are you talking about you?
I said yeah.
Did you understand the joke?
Well, it wasn't much of a joke.
It was a commentary, a self-deprecating commentary of what he just said earlier, that he sold himself short, he did this and that, and he smoked dope, and then somebody throws that line at him in that dumb voice.
I think it's the voice.
I think he can make a joke.
He can get a laugh.
He could just say, instead of, you're talking about you?
He could say...
Chocolate vanilla fudge!
I think that was less voice and more timing.
Well, his timing is impeccable.
Right.
His timing is good.
All right, so I started to investigate, and as a part of what I found is links to BAM, a Chicago outfit.
That would explain, of course, Rom becoming a man.
Also, match education.
And this is where I started to catch on to what was really going on here with all of these foundations.
And Tavis Smiley, of all people...
I don't remember what he was on.
He was on some show, and he talked about this specifically, and something he said made me dive in and I figured it out.
So what do you make of some of the people who were very visibly at this announcement?
Let's just take, for example, Mayor Michael Bloomberg.
Mayor Rahm Emanuel, obviously former Chief of Staff of the Presidents, you'd expect him to be there, but Michael Bloomberg might have been a little bit more surprising.
I tweeted earlier today that I was surprised that Emanuel and Bloomberg were so prominently featured in part because this is respectfully the same Michael Bloomberg that didn't just put stop and frisk on the books but aggressively defended stop and frisk.
This is the same Rahm Emanuel in Chicago who's closing down schools.
I just think the time is out for political correctness.
Let's tell the truth.
And there you have it.
That's what match education is all about.
So here's the deal.
Close the schools and then magically make new ones appear.
In the form of charter schools.
Oh, yeah.
This is what this is all about.
I'm liking this Tabitha Smiley more and more as time goes by.
I don't like his presentation.
I think he's got a crazy skewed voice, but I'm liking it.
He's on the side.
In fact, he's not at the meeting about exactly this thing.
And let me read from the blog, from Mitch Kapoor's blog.
Mm-hmm.
He went to the White House with a bunch of other people all involved in this.
And I just want you to listen to this.
The second question is taking longer to unpack.
What was it like to attend this meeting and event at the White House and to meet the president, somebody asked him.
In a word, monumental.
Mind-blowing.
I'm still awestruck by what I call its culture.
Wait, does he say mind dot blown dot?
Mind dash blowing.
Ha ha.
Does he say that?
Yeah.
I'm reading it.
I'm reading it.
This is full cloth here.
I'm reading it.
That's great.
I'm still awestruck by what I'll call its cultural enormity.
Sitting at the table with the president, cabinet members, congressional representatives, corporate leadership, and icons like General Colin Powell, who joked with a solid...
Colin Powell at the top of the Common Core pyramid.
Ta-da.
Ta-da.
Who joked with a smaller group of us that once a general, always a general.
He puts this in as an anecdote.
Wow.
This is lame, okay?
And Irvin Magic Johnson, whose legs didn't seem to fit under the table.
After the meeting concluded, we were ushered into a jam-packed East Room to be seated amongst notables like...
Representative Barbara Lee, who gave me a warm hug.
Representative John Lewis, greetings young brother.
Reverend Al Sharpton.
Oh no, not that guy again.
The parents of Trayvon Martin and Jordan Davis and many others.
There's no real conflict.
The young men from Chicago's, Chicago again, becoming a man program entered the room to a standing ovation, as did the president and Christian Champagne, an 18-year-old high school senior who did a yeoman's job of introducing Mr.
Obama.
And the rest is history.
And there's a webcast I'm going to watch.
So this is a douchebag meeting.
Yeah, and the way I see it is this is a charter school investment program, and everyone's looking really good.
What else are we helping these boys and men of color with?
Schooling.
Yeah.
But Ramalama Ding Dong, he is closing down schools in Chicago.
The people are up in arms.
They're protesting on the streets.
Funny, not really covered by MSNBC. In arms.
I mean, the kids are like, stop closing our schools, you douchebag.
And of course, we're going to have schools reopening.
This is a total overthrow.
I mean, it was one thing to have...
The centrally controlled scholastic system, but now the commercial centrally controlled scholastic system, that is mind-blown.
This is the educational equivalent of Corrections Corporation of America.
It's the pre-K for that, actually.
Yes.
Pre-K for Corrections Corporation of America.
This is horrible.
Yeah, it really is.
And this group was so self...
And this is...
They're only here...
There's some money angle here that you're dead right.
This is all about that.
Al Sharpe is not there for his good looks.
For his big head.
Yeah.
No, it's disgusting to me.
I'm all for education.
I'm all for helping all boys and men of the world.
There's a lot of information in this vlog, by the way.
I'm going to send you a link.
I want to put that in the show notes.
I got the match.
I got the boys becoming a man.
Which also kind of goes against the entire grain of what the Democratic Party is about.
Are you supposed to become the person you can be?
What if I want to become a girl?
Don't force me!
It's mean.
What does that mean, become a man?
Does that mean you've got to grin and down and bear it and take it?
And take your blows?
What does it mean, becoming a man?
When do you become a man?
There's no rites of passage for this culture necessarily, so there's no real...
I mean, graduating from high school could be becoming a man.
Getting beaten up somebody could be becoming a man.
Going into the army could be becoming a man.
It could be anything.
Graduating from high school, I think that would be the one.
But what truly is...
Yeah, what is the rite of passage in our culture today where you become a man?
When you get married.
I don't know.
Do you feel that there was a point in time when you became a man?
When I started doing the No Agenda show, finally.
Oh, man.
If only I could get you to be serious for once.
No, I don't.
I don't have a point.
I think it's a gradual thing.
It's an evolution.
I think you evolve into a grown-up.
I think it takes bits and pieces.
A little piece here, a little piece there, and it all comes together.
And some guys, I would include myself in that, still have childish behaviors that we employ on a day-to-day basis.
I think reading the Club 33 script is a good example of that.
All right.
It's just totally childish.
It's silly.
I actually wrote a script, for God's sake.
You spent probably 30 minutes.
I should be writing a radio play or something.
You should be, I don't know, writing your senator or something.
No.
No.
I'm working on the dunk tank, Club 33.
By the way.
Don't you think that's a great idea?
Good work on the dunk tank.
We should do this for real.
We'd have a great club.
Alright, I'm going to make us wrap this up, get out of here on time.
We're already late, actually.
I did want to play the new drug commercial.
Of course, we had the Zohydro ER at the beginning of the program, which is our new legal high, a 12-hour high, as presented by the Native Advertising in Forbes.
Have you seen Wax?
No.
Wax!
Wax!
Yeah, wax is the...
It's so dangerous.
It's illegal.
It's so...
Wax!
Wax!
Tonight on Nightline, there is a new drug, Sweeping America, that will apparently blow your mind.
Sweeping America.
Blow your mind!
Sweeping America.
Blow your mind!
That is, if it doesn't blow you up first.
And if they're cracking down in California, why is it totally legal to light up in Colorado?
This, by the way, is completely native advertising.
It's so well done.
Good evening.
Tonight we're going to take you inside the strange subculture involving a new and powerful drug that you may have never heard of.
It can be dangerous to use and even more dangerous to make.
And yet, in some places, it's totally legal.
It's called wax and it is an ultra-strong version of pot.
But while authorities are cracking down on wax...
Apparently it's pot.
In some states, in Colorado, it is literally becoming a mom-and-pop business.
Here's Mariana Van Zeller from our partner network, Fusion.
A nice little plug for Fusion, our partner network, Fusion, who apparently have done a documentary.
It appears once we crest this hill to get on the driveway, we're pretty much exposed.
There's absolutely no cover.
This is the DEA, by the way.
If we're on approach, and this turns out to be a shooter event, we'll take cover, we'll establish perimeter.
Since we're inside, everybody will be secured, and we'll see what we have.
There's a new drug that's sweeping the country.
It's called wax.
There is no weed out there that possesses the punching power that the wax does.
This is a guy with a ski hat on.
With the vocoded voice down because, you know, he's a DEA informant telling you how awesome wax is.
It's like smoking 20 joints of the best grade of weed.
Woo!
20 joints of the best grade of weed.
That would kill anyone.
Armant can't reveal his face, but says wax is the ultimate distillation of marijuana.
So potent, a single hit will keep you high for over a day.
Over a day?
Screw that Zycodone crap.
I want the wax, baby!
Nightline, John.
Nightline.
Night-effing line.
You know, when Nightline switched over to his current formant, I did predict That it was going to deteriorate into a cheap news, sensationalist news show that's useless.
And that's what it's done.
It could generate up to $10,000.
That's what I did in my first week of batching this stuff.
At $100 a gram.
Pouring out.
That's if it doesn't blow you up while you're making it.
We got people blowing up.
We got kitchens blowing up.
And people getting injured.
And even killed.
And the DEA says it's not just the making of the drug that's dangerous.
We're seeing people having sudden onset of psychosis and even brain damage from that exposure to high concentration of THC. Our concern is this is going to spread before we can get it under control.
The only thing missing from this report was some guy going...
Dude, my dog ate my wax.
Yeah, where's the dog?
This is basically low-grade hash, is what it is.
It'll keep you high for a day.
It's like smoking 20 joints at once.
Wowee.
Yeah, that's...
Native advertising, ladies and gentlemen.
Go get your wax.
Get your wax here.
It's good to go.
Get your wax.
Alright, well that was another depressing show.
We had a lot of laughs though.
Do you want to do something happy to get us out or are we good?
Oh no, but I was just looking through the dial.
Oh no, don't tell me.
Oh no, not again.
Tom Hartman's on.
Average is 68 with highs of 110 counts per minute.
Farmington, Minnesota is sitting at 40 counts per minute with spikes to 62.
And Rapid City, South Dakota is hovering at 39 with highs of 55 counts per minute.
Radcast's alert level is 100 counts per minute.
However, they remind us that there is no such thing as a safe level of radiation.
That's right, everybody.
There is no such thing as a safe level of radiation.
Thank you, Thong.
Unbelievable.
Well, everybody, I'm sure things will play out just nice and neatly for us by Thursday so we can dissect more for you.
Of course, we need to be all over Hillary Clinton's mysterious disease, which may stop her from running for president.
Yeah, this is developing to something interesting.
Yes.
Heart trouble?
Vision trouble?
Blockage in her veins?
Ovarian cysts?
Who knows?
She'll have a bruised face is all I know when we see her next.
That's right.
She'll be looking great.
Or maybe she's having a badectomy.
By the way, I think this is Joe Biden who's unleashing these rumors.
Oh, yeah.
I actually have a speech by Joe Biden that I still have not dissected, so I'm keeping it in abeyance.
It may not be anything there.
How about maybe for Thursday?
He has a lot to say, and he's so funny.
But yeah, it could be Joe's kind of response to her buddy Gates blasting him.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In the book.
Anyway, everybody, please keep supporting us.
We do need it to continue.
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And from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
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