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Well, I see the fat lady's done, so hit it.
Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
It's Thursday, February 27, 2014.
Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 595.
This is No Agenda.
I was wealthy and well-connected here in FEMA Region 6 in the Travis Heights hideout in Austin, Texas.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm reading tweets in anticipation of show 600, I'm John C. Devorak.
It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill in the morning.
Yeah, yeah.
And Eric Holder's in the hospital.
What's he doing in the hospital?
He was feeling faint and had trouble breathing.
Yeah.
Yeah, it happens.
Interesting.
I don't know.
I don't know if it's interesting.
It's breaking news.
There's something else about Eric Holder in the news, and I can't remember what it was.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
He's a dick?
Besides being a dick.
Was that what it was about him in the news?
He's a total douche?
It was something.
I can't remember what it was.
Oh, well.
Hey, I did my dentist thing.
Okay, tell all.
Oh my goodness.
This is my year I've been saving up to fix my teeth and this will be the last time I have to do anything.
Your teeth never looked at that they were needing fixing.
Yeah, they do.
But this is my 50th birthday present to myself.
I'm going to make them all pretty and then I don't have to do much until I die.
And so the dentist here, we had this plan, we were working on it.
The technology of dentistry is pretty, even though the dental medicine itself is still kind of medieval, the technology is pretty outrageous these days.
They can print their own crowns in the office, 3D printing stuff, made of zirconia, which is indestructible.
Have you ever had a dental dam put on?
Uh, no.
I don't think so.
What is it?
It's a dental dam.
I kind of liked it, actually.
Although, when they start strapping a piece of rubber over your mouth and then cutting a hole just for the area they're going to be working on, you know that there's something real going down.
You know, this is not your regular business.
Yeah, no, I don't think I've ever had that done.
It's like, do you remember there were vaginal dams for oral sex?
I don't remember.
No, I don't remember that either.
Yeah, they never really caught on, trust me.
No one wanted to use those.
I'll risk a disease, screw it.
What disease are you going to get?
But anyway, go on.
Never mind.
Let's just continue your story.
Well, no.
It was three hours of basically surgery.
Yeah, it was too long.
And at one point, I could see...
So the assistant, by the way, this is why I felt so good about it.
So they numbed me up.
And you know it's not good when they put you upright after shooting all this lidocaine in your mouth.
And they say, oh, just wait here for 15 minutes.
Now you know that they're waiting for half your head to be anesthetized.
And so I'm chatting with the assistant.
And I'm like, what did you do before you got into dentistry?
Wait, you asked the question?
Yeah.
And it didn't sound like...
A little bit.
No, it did sound a little bit like that.
And I said, wait, wait, wait, don't tell me professional sports.
She said, no.
Dancing.
I'm like, oh, ballroom?
She said, no.
You mean you were a stripper?
She said, yeah, for 13 years.
The dental assistant?
Yeah.
I'm like, this is going to be a great session.
I can't look at you any different now.
I just see you make it.
I want to make it rain.
This is the sexist in you.
Yes, it is.
She's a woman who's trying to make a normal living and now all you see her is a stripper.
Yes.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Yeah.
And you admit it on the air.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Anyway, so just the technology part, and they'll shut up about it.
So at a certain point, I see them both.
I think she should have flashed you.
Oh, man, would that have been awesome?
She was really nice.
She'd, like, put her hand on my throat when I was feeling a little tan.
It was fantastic.
I've heard about that.
Even if it wasn't true, it made the whole thing great.
I was happy.
But at a certain point, I see both their eyes are wide and they're looking at each other.
I'm like, what's going on?
Yeah, we got a little bleeding here that's not stopping.
I'm like, okay.
And then they're whispering like, yeah, get the probe.
I'm like, what?
And then she's like, move his back up, move his back up.
And then she puts a metal plate under my back.
And then the probe, they're literally electrocuting your gums to search for them closed.
Electricity is going through my body.
Technology.
That's terrible.
Yeah, anyway, it's all much better.
Much better now.
It sounds like a comedy act.
It's a metal plate.
That's the ground.
Exactly, it's the grounding plate.
Stick this up his butt and ground his ass.
Oh, wow, wow, wow.
Anyway, but she's a lesbian.
A lot of strippers become lesbians.
They're sick of it.
That's exactly what she said.
She said, yeah, I'm so sick of men.
Anyway, and I found that out by saying, hey, you should come to spin class with me.
Lots of cute chicks.
He went, oh, Rosa won't like it.
Rosa won't like it.
Anyway, big show today.
Man, what a lot of stuff happening.
A lot of stuff happening.
Yeah, a lot of stuff, a lot of stuff.
So the Crimea thing's going as expected.
Yeah, and you called that, and you were the first one to talk about it.
And you look at Crimea, it is kind of like a little ball sack appendage hanging off Ukraine down there, isn't it?
Yeah, it's cool crap, it shouldn't be there.
It shouldn't be there.
Well, I mean, yeah, it's Russia.
Yeah, basically.
Have you learned much about...
Maybe I should just say, what are you learning?
I've learned a few things about what's been going on in the past...
Well, the guy I like is this bald guy from RT. I'm sorry, not RT, but Van Kat.
He's a French guy.
He's the one who got me and started to look at Crimea.
He is a funny-looking guy.
He is a real foreign correspondent.
He's not a pretty boy who hangs out in Moscow and pretends to be someplace else.
Right.
And he has a report on what's going on in Crimea.
Doug Herbert is the guy, and there's a guy I'm going to follow.
And I have two clips somewhere.
Yeah, I've got Crimea Report Part 1 would just be a guess.
Yeah, let's go with Crimea Report Part 1.
It will catch up based on what the French are seeing because he's got a lot of little tidbits and anecdotes which contradict a lot of what everybody else is reporting.
Oh, good.
Doug, you're in the capital of Crimea, that's Simferopol, and this is where we can expect further bloodshed.
Well, I won't go so far as say bloodshed yet, Aurora.
Let's hope not, at least.
But, you know, when John Kerry says that this is not about a struggle, a battle between East and West, there are quite a few people here who would disagree with that.
They think it very much is a struggle.
And when you speak of separatist threats these days and those fears of provinces and territories breaking away from the central power in Kiev, this is exactly the type of place that people are looking at and fear that that could happen.
I'm standing actually in front of what is the regional, the Crimean Parliament here in the capital of Crimea, Semperopol.
Now this is obviously a region, it is majority Russian speakers.
About 60% of the population out of 2 million are Russians.
Yes, there's a sizable minority of Ukrainians.
There's also Crimean Tatars.
But most are Russians.
And yesterday we actually saw the Russian flag.
There were a lot of reports of the Russian flag being raised above this parliament building.
Now, that wasn't true.
It wasn't on the roof of the building itself.
This morning the Ukrainian flag is still very much flying on the roof of this building.
But the Russian flag was briefly raised right over the letters that you see behind me on this building.
And it was done by obviously some groups that are very upset with what they see happening in Kiev.
I may note that in just a little, a short while of time, they're going to be beginning a session of parliament here where the lawmakers are going to be trying to basically overthrow the current local government here.
Why?
Why?
Because these are people that they see as being too close to the new government in Kiev.
They are people that they do not feel protect the Russian interests here.
And that is the big issue because the Russians I'm speaking about, both Russian speakers, but also Russians living here who have Russian passports, they are looking at what's going on and they feel slightly exposed, unprotected, and they want Russia actually to come help them.
I take a little exception with some of what he's saying here, though.
The Well, about the language.
I mean, people in Poland speak, or at least can get by on Russian, Ukrainian.
You know, it's not so much, oh, they speak Russian, therefore they belong to Russia.
Oh, no, a lot of the Ukrainians speak Russian.
Everybody speaks Russian.
We have a lot of feet on the ground that have told us that people just speak Russian.
Well, it's also very much like Israel.
And everyone speaks multiple dialects of Arabic, and it's not quite...
I don't think you made the point.
He repeated that a lot.
He repeated that a lot.
I hear that a lot now, too.
Oh, this is Russian speakers.
They don't want to belong to this part.
I've been looking at the financials.
Because the thing you never get in the newspaper or on the TV... Okay, so we hear, oh, the economy is wrecked.
What does that mean?
What exactly is going on?
And so I did some research, and it looks like there's $66 billion of external debt Ukraine has that will be maturing this year.
And that has to, of course, that has to be rolled over.
There's no way that's going to be repaid.
But the real exposure is the Russian banks, which is why I'm thinking when I heard Lavrov talking, I got a little clip here, of course it's translated because unlike everyone in Ukraine we don't speak Russian.
It sounds...
I'm not so sure that they're against all of this.
We confirmed our principal position of non-interference in Ukrainian domestic affairs, and we hope that everyone will adhere to similar logic and use the existing contacts with various political forces in Ukraine to calm the situation down, but not to seek opportunistic, one-sided advantages at a stage where national dialogue is necessary.
We agree with our Luxembourg partners that it is dangerous and counterproductive to try and impose on Ukraine a choice based on the principle either you are with us or against us.
We want to see Ukraine part of the common European family in every sense of the word.
See, I think...
There may be something to that.
So when they say they're Luxembourg partners, and that's one thing and one thing only, that's banks.
Now that's all that's in Luxembourg is banks.
$28 billion.
And the cookie factory.
The exposure to Russian banks, specifically Gazprom Bank, is $28 billion.
They owe $3.5 billion for gas banks.
That Russia has provided.
You know, maybe it's as simple as that Russia really, first, is kind of like a paper tiger.
I've had this feeling before that I don't know if they really have the might.
Yeah, sure, everyone's got missiles, but this is not a missile issue.
Maybe they just want to get whatever they can get.
Oh, you're going to give a billion dollars right off the bat if you join the EU? Fine, we'll take that.
Oh, you're going to take some IMF loans?
Fine, we'll take that.
We'll take that.
We'll take whatever we can get.
We just want our money back.
Well, it would be better, I mean, from this perspective.
And I don't see that the Russians are running around like chickens with their heads cut off over this anyway.
No.
And there's a lot of people who say, oh, they're getting ready.
They're going to invade.
I'm not buying it anymore.
Well, actually, you want to play the invade thing?
Part two of the Crimean thing with Doug Herbert again.
discusses the supposed activity on the border.
He says it's possible, but play that part.
Now, Doug, there are reports that near the Black Sea in Crimea, there's a growing military Russian presence.
Yeah, listen, Sevastopol, which is not to be confused with where I am, Semperopol, which is the capital, is the base of the Russian Black Sea fleet.
And I may note that the Russian ships there are alongside Ukrainian ships as well.
They've been based there for decades.
And Sevastopol's been a real flashpoint of attention as well, because it's one of the first places that Russia would look to obviously protect, because it has military hardware there.
Now, there were lots of reports in the past 24 hours.
We saw across the blogosphere and Twitter Reports of Russian tanks and more marines being deployed to the region.
Now, some of the people here will say, don't exaggerate.
What you're seeing is, one, a lot of the troops and military hardware is also coming back from the Olympic Games in Sochi, which is not far away.
It's just on the other side of the Black Sea.
So some of that presence is normal.
And they also point out, look, Russian military hardware has been present in Sebastopol on that black seaport for decades.
So it's natural you're going to see some Russian military hardware.
That said, the Russians, they're not about to send in troops, but they might be wanting to make their presence felt, might be wanting to send a signal to the powers in Kiev, you know, we're here as well.
don't forget us.
Since the source is the blogosphere and Twitter, you've got to be a little skeptical about them getting ready to...
Yeah, no, I think that's what this report said.
It's just business as usual around the area.
It's like if you were, especially if they were redeploying all the bull crap they had around Sochi, which was lots and lots of people.
Yeah.
And they're just running them up a railroad along the coast and back to where they came from.
I can see somebody taking a picture of that and saying, they're headed to Ukraine.
I would do that if I was a guy with a camera and I took that picture.
I'm pretty sure that this is all about the money.
Well, let's get back to this thought.
Can I read a brief statement from the White House that came out this morning?
Sure.
It's from the press secretary, so it's not from the president yet, so it hasn't escalated, but the United States strongly supports Ukrainian leaders' ongoing work to form an inclusive, multi-party government to represent all the people of Ukraine as they prepare for May elections and to restore order, stability, and unity to the country.
As the process moves forward, the United States again calls on all parties in Ukraine and in the region to support reconciliation and the country's return to political and economic health and will work with the international community in building an economic assistance package based on Ukraine's achievements in crafting a unity government.
This is about getting the IMF in.
That's all that this is about.
Well, I think we already figured that out.
Right, but it's...
Well, let me just go into what I'm thinking.
I'm just saying it's before they even say stop killing people.
It's, hey, get your financial house in order.
The Russians are owed a bunch of money, especially Gazprom.
Yeah, $3 billion.
Now, they're not going to let them go bankrupt.
And the Russians don't want to give...
I mean, they've offered to give $15 billion somehow in loans and guarantees and other things to the...
But it's like these guys, I don't know, it just seemed like if they would take it and everything would be fine, the creepy old guy, the guy that was running the place before could have stayed in power.
Who knows?
Whatever the case, it would be better.
Not to do that.
You'd save $15 billion.
You get the IMF and the economic hitmen in there, which is what we're talking about here, when the U.S. says, we'll make an arrangement.
So you make an arrangement, and you get that money, and then you pay off the Russians that are owed all this money.
Unless they go to the point of wanting to join NATO or actually becoming a member of the EU, I think the Russians are fine with the payments.
And I think part of the payments would mean keeping the gas pipelines in place, which run through the Ukraine into Europe.
And then also now the only variable here, again we go back to what's her name, the old spokeshole for the State Department.
Newland.
Newland.
Real name Noodleman.
Noodle, is really?
Yes, she changed her name.
Her real name is Noodleman.
Her name is Noodleman?
Yes, Victoria Noodleman.
And she changed it to new.
I would too.
I have that speech where she was at the U.S.-Ukraine Foundation.
Yeah, with the Chevron logo behind her.
It's not just Chevron.
I went back and looked at the video.
It's Chevron on the right side.
It's ExxonMobil on the left side.
Yeah.
And this is where she...
I'll just play it because you mentioned it where she talks about keys.
And by the way, before you play it so people can keep their ear out, We've gotten three notes so far confirming that her pronunciation of Kiev is correct.
It's Kiev, yes.
Roman, thank you, ladies and gentlemen.
Thank you for being here and for your continued support for the U.S.-Ukraine relationship.
And thank you for the invitation to speak to you today.
Still jet-lagged from my third trip in five weeks to Ukraine.
And my days in Kiev earlier this week.
And she goes on to talk about, you know, how happy she is and how they've put in five billion dollars.
But this is the interesting thing.
This is the U.S.-Ukraine Foundation.
You know me in foundations, John.
I love go looking these guys up.
Why is she talking at the U.S.-Ukraine Foundation?
Who's in the U.S.-Ukraine Foundation?
Any usual suspects?
Gee, first why don't you go to usukraine.org and I'll tell you who the major funders are.
We gratefully acknowledge our major financial supporters.
Baker McKenzie.
Baker McKenzie, of course, the Chicago law firm run by the now IMF head French woman.
Whatever her name is.
Yeah, that one.
The Coca-Cola company, ExxonMobil.
Heritage Foundation.
Mary Kay Corporation.
Gotta bring some makeup to those people.
Raytheon.
System Capital Manager.
TNKBP. Ukrainian American Court.
There's a whole bunch of other NGOs in here.
The Washington Times.
Interesting.
That's interesting.
Chevron, of course, in here.
And who else is in here?
And there's a lot of individuals.
But yeah, it's all the usual subjects.
Interestingly, looking at their...
Look at this blonde in the red dress.
It's a huge elitist outfit.
Interestingly, they don't have a lot of money.
They've got about a million dollars a year.
It's just keeping it running.
Drinking club, where they all sit around.
It's a drinking club.
But that's where Noodleman comes in to talk.
I thought that was interesting that she's there.
Did you see...
It could be a front for something else.
Well, yes, it's a front for these companies.
Of course it is.
Remember that Chevron got a $10 billion fracking exploration contract, and this is only a couple months before all this crap started.
So I'm kind of thinking that something may be up with that.
Like, yeah, $10 billion, but maybe by the time the government's changed, maybe we forgot about it, or maybe it's just a billion, or maybe we'll have the IMF pay it off somehow, whatever.
We'll pay it directly to them.
You don't worry about it.
I'm thinking that $10 billion is never going to get paid.
Otherwise, why doesn't Chevron immediately, you know, why aren't they on the hook?
They're, you know, it's a creditor.
Yeah.
What do I have here?
I was going to ask if you saw Carrie, Watermelon Head Carrie with Andrew Mitchell.
I have a short clip of him, which is part of a quiz.
Oh, I have some clips.
Do you want to do the quiz first?
Well, let's do this.
This is the one that Herbert mentioned.
Hold on, a quiz?
Yeah, there's a quiz.
I have a question to ask you after you play the Carrie clip.
And is there a prize for this quiz?
Yeah.
This is not a zero-sum game.
It is not a West versus East.
It should not be.
It is not Russia or the United States or other choices.
This is about the people of Ukraine and Ukrainians making their choice about their future.
And we want to work with Russia, with other countries, with everybody available, To make sure this is peaceful.
Alright, and the question is?
What do you say?
This is not East versus West.
Let's all be peaceful and let's work with everybody in Kumbaya.
I'd like to buy the world a Coke.
Oh, okay.
Here he is saying a very similar thing to Andrea Mitchell.
Andrea Mitchell works for CNN, but of course...
Can this guy actually ever be succinct?
Is it really that difficult?
We're actually going to make fun of him to the nth degree with these clips.
He is insane.
And I'm happy that we're paying attention to him now because he is writing really good comedy for us.
Andrea Mitchell is...
She's married to Greenspan.
The former central banker of the United States.
So she's an elitist masquerading as a prostitute, and of course that's how she gets these high-level interviews, which obviously are quite scripted.
And here's Jerry's new take.
President Putin, in a telephone conversation with President Obama just the other day, committed to respect the territorial integrity of Ukraine.
And I think that's incredibly important.
It would be very difficult for me to understand how Russia would reconcile its position on Libya, its position on Syria, It's warnings against intervention in another country and then not respect the sovereignty of Ukraine and the will of the people there.
I love how he's just turning it all around.
We invaded Libya.
We've sent terrorists into Syria.
Now we are the ones that have destabilized Ukraine.
And he's turning it around and saying, hey, I can't believe Putin wouldn't step back.
It's unbelievable.
So we're hoping that Russia will not see this as sort of a continuation of the Cold War.
We don't see it that way.
We do not believe this should be an East-West, Russia, United States.
This is not Rocky IV. Ah, there we go.
A popular culture reference.
I like his name.
I think we're calling it for now as Jerry.
Secretary of State Jerry, and he's going to finish this up with, of course, the true news.
Believe me.
Yes, Jerry, I'll believe you.
We don't see it that way.
We see this as an opportunity for Russia, the United States, and others to strengthen Ukraine, help them in this transition.
And there's no reason that they can't look east and west and be involved as a vital cog in the economy of all of us going forward.
And that's what our hope is, that there's a transition government, that there are reforms put in place, that the IMF becomes involved.
Oh!
And that the Ukrainian people have an opportunity.
And at the very end, it's like, oh yes, and the citizens.
Yeah, and then you can come involved after we get the IMF in.
But now, the irony of what he is about to say, and I wonder if he even understands the irony of the words coming out of his pie hole when he talks about Yanukovych's lifestyle.
The key here is to give the people of Ukraine the full space within which to make their decisions about where they want to go.
That's what we're trying to do.
We're not putting pressure on them.
We're not urging something that they haven't themselves expressed as a desire.
We are trying to honor their intentions of putting together a democratic, pluralistic government that breaks away from this Really?
Do you not have yachts, Jerry?
Do you not have a multi-million dollar dining room somewhere?
I mean, seriously, Jerry?
Really?
Really?
I mean, does he understand the irony of that?
He's sitting in a gilded room.
Doing this interview.
In the middle of a room with a hardwood floor with a design.
He has no clue that he's...
He's just blabbering and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
With a design in the middle of it.
Please!
This was a very interesting and entertaining interview.
Do you want to hear a bit about North Korea?
How come she didn't say something to him?
Oh, please.
No, seriously.
Because she's not a journalist.
Well, Jerry, this kind of sounds like your lifestyle.
You've got a yacht, you've got a bunch of mansions all over the country.
You have these huge soirees in your million-dollar dining room.
How can you point a figure at this guy?
But the irony is they're sitting in the State Department in the middle of one of those rooms where the president...
Yeah, one of those overdone rooms.
Yeah, with a compass design, like the New World Order eye in the middle of the floor.
And it's just them with two chairs and a table, and the whole room is echoing.
It's actually appalling.
It is appalling.
We're seeing his yachts.
Oh, unlike your yachts.
Okay.
Your yacht's okay.
His yacht's not kleptocracy.
The kleptocracy is going on right in front of our eyes here.
Do you want to hear his moronic statement about North Korea?
I love listening to this guy.
Now, Andrea Mitchell is going to set him up with a hilarious little ditty, which is, you know, this is all unconfirmed.
These are all, of course, about how horrible North Korea is and the horrible things they've done.
And while I don't doubt that, of course, there's atrocities going on, again, the irony of what they are accusing the North Koreans of is spectacular.
Let me ask you about North Korea because the UN has exposed, for all to see, the horrors of those death camps, the prison camps in North Korea.
Now, these death camps, of course, are unconfirmed.
This is from some statements, some interviews, and they showed some satellite picture and said, yeah, this is where they were.
The Human Rights Wing of the UN is taking it up in Geneva.
A former prison guard testified to the UN that he witnessed years ago dogs attacking five children.
Two of these children survived the attack by the dogs and were buried alive.
How much longer can this go on with China protecting its client, North Korea, and the UN not recommending that the leaders of North Korea be taken to the world court?
Now, this is very interesting because, again, you have to remember that Andrea Mitchell is an elitist.
She is a part of the upper echelon.
And for her to say, first of all, she said world court, not international criminal court.
I don't know if that was an oversight in her part or if that is what they really, I don't know what she means by that.
Of course, the United States doesn't recognize the international criminal court because people like Jerry would be in it.
No, half of our politicians would be in it.
Bush would be in it, for sure.
So as a journalist, she is now saying, China is protecting their client, North Korea.
How come we don't take all these people to the world court and lock them up?
And prosecute it if they could possibly be captured.
If we could capture them.
Well, I think that what he's about to say is beautiful.
Every aspect of that report is a huge service to all of us.
And I applaud the report.
Good work.
Good work.
Thank you.
We applaud the report.
Good work, my friend.
North Korea is one of the most closed and cruel places on earth.
He's searching for adjectives, cruel places.
There's no question about it.
No question.
There's evil that is taking place there that all of us ought to be deeply and are deeply concerned about.
Concerned.
And we are continuing to press for action.
All right.
Let's hear it.
In the meantime, there is no question.
No question.
The level of depravity, the level of human rights violations, they've conducted executions using 122mm aircraft guns to obliterate people and force people to watch these kinds of executions.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Hold on a second.
Unlike we're putting people to death and watching them struggle for air for 20 minutes with some pogative injection.
Let's go back to the reality of this.
They are forcing people to watch it.
How?
They have to be sitting around?
Do they bring them into a stadium and then a jet shoots these people?
122 millimeters.
If that's the case, why aren't there any photos of this?
I don't care how close a society is nowadays.
People sneak photos out.
This whole thing, by the way, I still think it harkens back to Abu Ghraib.
That prison that we had set the dogs on those guys.
Because this dog meme is just getting on my nerves.
I wouldn't have said anything unless it shows up again.
I agree.
Setting the dogs on...
We did that, by the way.
The CIA, Hayden, and these guys.
We set the dogs on people.
Meanwhile, now we accuse this guy of setting dogs on his uncle, which was a lie.
And now we have this new dog story?
You know what?
You know, John, it's as if it's just crazy.
I have yet a third dog story.
From Samantha Power.
The UN ambassador.
She is married to Cass Sunstein, who will be discussed later in this program.
The shill extraordinaire.
So it's three dog anecdotes to one.
Here it comes.
This is from Syria.
We have a new United Nations resolution.
And even though what she's talking about happened six months, or was reported six months ago, she felt it very important to put this in her statement regarding this resolution.
The facts in Syria that gave rise to this long overdue council resolution...
By the way, she sounds like my dental assistant.
...defy the imagination.
As the Secretary General has recently reported, unspeakable abuses are being committed against children...
Including kidnapping, sexual violence, beatings with whips, electric shocks, and imprisonment without cause.
All of that.
You're right.
All of that Abu Ghraib.
Imprisonment, whipping, electric shocks to the genitals.
Now, now, let's get to the dogs.
Meanwhile, tens of thousands of detainees, including humanitarian workers, journalists, medical personnel, and children, are being held in miserable conditions and are subject to torture, rape, and other forms of intolerable abuse.
And, of course, Syrian forces have encircled neighborhoods and willfully used starvation as a weapon of war, Wait for it!
blocking food deliveries and causing religious leaders in Ghouta...
What could that religious declaration be, John?
Are you ready?
Given the desperate situation, the religious leaders gave Guta's residents dispensation to eat cats and dogs in order to survive.
Cats and dogs.
There's your dog story.
Cats and dogs.
It's all about cats and dogs.
You know, this makes so much sense to me.
Because we, as a people, mainly because of the mind control of television, have become desensitized to people being in dire situations.
So it doesn't work anymore.
People don't, oh, it's just a person who gives a crap.
Oh, it's a dog.
It don't seem to have much effect anymore.
I'm reminded of the, I thought, a failed, I thought it was interesting, but the failed attempt during, I guess, was it the Egypt thing or was it the Libyan thing, the Syrian, I don't know who, I think it was Libya, where they had Qaddafi, whoever gave the orders, uh, Made the soldiers take Viagra so they could have to rape?
Because, oh, what am I going to do with this thing?
This was Libya, indeed.
Libya.
Libya.
Yeah, it was part of getting the resolution.
Push through, maybe it was like, what was it, 1973, Resolution 1973 and 1975 or whatever it was.
Yeah, part of it was, yeah, they're handing out Viagra so these guys can rape.
I mean, it's like...
Really?
It's crazy.
There's so many things wrong with the idea that even the assumption that someone would believe this tall tale...
It was actually disturbing.
I found that whole episode to be quite...
It really set me back in terms of my respect for the ability of this country in particular to do proper propagandizing.
This is just bullcrap.
No, we've got some good...
No, we obviously lost our good people to WPP, Omnicon.
They've all gone to work for the private sector because this was so stupid.
Yeah.
And, of course, it was revealed to be bullcrap, which is that, you know, if you're going to do a propaganda gimmick, you don't make something up so weird that it gets rebutted, and then you just look like an idiot.
Now nobody believes anything you do.
I'm surprised no one has pulled the Chernobyl card on Ukraine.
Well, actually, that's interesting.
Chernobyl is only 144 kilometers north of Kiev.
How come everyone's still alive?
You think with Fukushima, in comparison, everyone would be fried and have three heads and stuff.
Yeah, it's only an hour and a half drive.
Let's talk about it.
This has been, I guess, on the list of things.
On the other, the one list which has mentioned dogs and especially attacking kids and eating people.
And then we eating them, dog eat dog, or we eat dog and they eat us.
And then the other list, the no-nos, must be Chernobyl.
Yeah, don't talk.
It's got to be on the no-no list.
You can't talk about it.
But when you think about it, in any other case, it would be something, oh, you know, Chernobyl, everyone in a wide range, you know, thousands of kilometers died of cancer and had...
I'm surprised Tom Hartman hasn't got his little...
His little Geiger counter.
Radiation rates there.
Yeah, exactly.
The only thing I will say from a strategic standpoint...
Having the EU in charge of Kiev, which is to the east of the Carpathian Mountains, that is strategically, maybe it doesn't matter anymore, maybe that's only the days of foot soldiers, but the Carpathian Mountains were kind of a natural buffer, very much like the, what do we have over there to the east of Georgia?
Other Sierra Nevadas.
No.
No.
Whatever they call them.
That mountain range over there.
It's a very natural buffer zone between the east and west, and now the west will technically be on the other side of that.
Well, where they can't get away.
No, that's right.
They're trapped.
They can't go home.
Good point.
Good point.
They can't go home.
I think you're right.
This is all behind the scenes here.
There's a money thing going on.
Yeah, it's...
They have a great auction where they sell that guy's house off.
It's not even his house.
It's the presidential palace.
It's not his own house, I don't think.
I thought he's the one who decorated it.
Oh, well, yeah.
So the Obamas decorate the White House.
Everyone gets to decorate their own presidential palace.
Well, let's sell this auction.
That's big money.
It's like, you know, they really blew it with Gaddafi because, you know, they stole it.
They blew it in his place.
You can't, you know, this is all those hats he had, those big giant hats.
I mean, I can imagine Sotheby's selling those things for $1,200 to $12,000 a pop.
I think at one point, I remember there was a silent auction.
It was an Elton John, Billie Jean King silent auction in Los Angeles.
MTV days.
And I think I won Michael Jackson's fedora hat at the silent auction for two grand.
You spent two grand on a hat.
Where's it now?
Where's that valuable hat now?
Yeah, I know.
So I bid on it, but it wasn't really my money.
It was my radio syndicator's money, and we had a contest, and the contest prize was?
The hat.
Michael Jackson's hat, yeah.
That hat probably could be worth something.
Yeah.
I mean, I think all this stuff is crap.
I keep seeing this hat pop up around the...
I think there's a lot of hats.
And I'm always very skeptical of these things.
Yeah, his red jacket, I've seen that auctioned off too many times, too, from Beat It.
I have a Ferrari, red Ferrari cap that's signed by Schumacher.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Well, that's going to be worth a lot of money if he doesn't come out of the coma, if he dies.
Yeah, that's sad.
Hey, let's move this on on time today, John.
I, of course, would like to thank you for your courage and say, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
In the morning to you, Adam.
Curry.
Oh, I see what you're getting at.
In the morning to you, Adam Curry, and also in the morning to all the dames and knights out there, along with the ships at sea, and the boots on the ground, and the subs in the water, and all the feet in the air, and I don't know why there'd be any feet in the air while they're listening to this show, but it's possible, and everyone that helps us on the show and whatever.
Including our artists.
Artists.
Yes, Nick the Rat, even though he was threatening with...
Sexual favors, he actually did have the best piece of art for episode 5, 9, or 4, and we appreciate it.
Yeah, he was complaining bitterly, and he says, I don't think they like my art anymore, and I was going to write him and say, you know, give us better art.
Yeah, exactly.
No.
But he did.
Yeah, he did.
He nailed it.
Send them the note.
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Also in the morning to the chat room, noagendastream.com.
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Slowly, but always helping out.
And this program is brought to you by the people who listen to it, the people who consume it, the people who produce it.
We have producers and, of course, executive producers, associate executive producers.
These are the ones that get the credits.
Up front, just like Hollywood.
Who do we need to thank today, John?
We do need to thank some people for helping or becoming executive and associate executive producers.
We have two executives.
Well, actually, we actually, you know, the Sir Kraut brothers came in with 300 and their cutoffers.
Executive producers 333, but we'll put them in there anyway because they're the Sirs.
But first of all, we have Michael Allen, who was an instant knight with $1,000 from South Plainfield, New Jersey, and he says, which saved the day, I might add, for my knight name, I would like to become known as Knight of the Railroad Conductors and Mover of Homeless and Drunks Off the Trains.
Oh, wow.
Yes, I know who he is.
I think he tases people.
Yes.
Sir Taser.
Sir Taser.
Hey, hey, move along.
Hey, shut up you drunk or I'll tase you.
Hey, hey, hey you.
Get off the train.
I'm going to tase you.
By the way, I'd like to give a shout out to the Google No Agenda community.
Cool bunch of cats over there.
Ah, the Google Plusers, yes.
So he could be a conductor on a railroad, and if he's back in Jersey, he's obviously on one of these, the big path.
That's Burlington Northern.
And he probably goes through collecting, you know, punching tickets.
Tickets.
Tickets, please.
Tickets.
Tickets.
Tickets, please.
Where's your ticket?
Hey, man.
Off you go.
I was just sitting here.
Off you go.
Hey, where's your ticket?
What?
No ticket?
And this is exactly the kind of people who make sure this show continues.
So, you got a problem?
I would not mess with this guy.
You know, also, we have some train anecdotes, and if we make a mistake, which we make some mistakes.
We make all kinds of mistakes.
But we don't make a lot.
In reality, we make enough that we get corrected.
Right.
And so...
And now if we make a train mistake, it'll be...
I'd rather have a correction than that, but okay.
Sir Kraut Brothers came in with $300 from New York City.
Oh, you know what?
Harry Reid was talking about them.
The Kraut Brothers?
The evil Kraut Brothers.
What does he say?
Mr.
President, these two brothers are trying to buy America...
They not only funnel money through their Americans for Prosperity, they funnel money into all kinds of organizations.
They're trying to buy America.
There you go.
The Evil Kraut Brothers trying to buy America.
I think they were talking about those other guys.
Oh, the Koch brothers, maybe.
Oh, okay.
I messed up.
And we never got permission to call the evil crowd.
I did.
I got permission.
You did?
Yes, I did.
Via email.
We can call them.
I guess he says that in here.
To all our friends at Nango, keep up the hard work.
Please find our donation of $300 for show 595, which is five shows away from show 600, I might want to mention.
Yeah, exactly.
Here's the bad science and perky breasts.
Yeah.
The evil crowd, brother, stand behind you financially and spiritually.
100%.
Hold on a second.
Is that a new No Agenda Night perk?
Perky breasts?
No, bad science and perky breasts?
I think it could be added to the roundtable rewards.
Bad science?
I thought it should be refreshments.
Well, there's something there.
Anyway.
I'm putting it in.
I'm adding it.
Bad science and perky breasts.
Okay.
Nice.
All right.
I think you should just record that and then hit the button and fool me.
Don't you think that'd be funny?
If I said bad science and perky words?
No, no.
When you rattle off that list that you read?
Yes.
If you recorded it and then just hit the button transparently, I would think you were reading it.
Yeah.
And it would be true, it would be a tape recording.
Yeah, okay.
And of course, Adam, please give a shout out to Eleanor.
He's a constitutional lawyer!
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Exactly.
In New York.
New York.
Thank you very much, Evil Kraut Brothers.
Thank you.
And thank you for the bread.
What?
Yeah, they sent me gluten-free bread from the bakery.
They sent you some gluten-free bread?
Yes.
Not some, but like all different hot dog rolls and all kinds of stuff.
Ah.
Yeah, it's great.
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Gorgeous place.
Dear Crackpot and Buzzkill, as a night located in the Lowcountry, Charleston, South Carolina, I noticed that the peerage map does not have the fancy red dot on Charleston for the location of my knighthood.
If you could please update the map, I would appreciate it.
I mention this because I have a call out for all producers in the Lowcountry and across the South Carolina.
I will match dollar for dollar All South Carolina producers' donations up to $605 until episode 605, which will be on April 3rd, 2014.
Very nice.
John and I share the birthday of April 5th, and this is my way of providing a donation to the show.
A birthday shout-out to The Buzzkill and calling to arms all producers within my domain to support the show.
I will keep a running total of South Carolina donations from episode 595 to episode 605.
If the donation is matched to its fullest at 605, this will take me along with this donation to my second knighthood on my way to Baron of the Carolinas.
Woo-hoo!
I don't know if we have anybody from South Carolina ever donates except Nate.
I don't know.
Yeah, Nate for sure.
Anonymous in Minnesota, that's $250.
Just getting by in Minnesota.
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Yeah, that's nice of you.
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Well, we'd like to have more information on that, actually.
Where's the photos?
He said photos will be forthcoming.
Hmm.
I could have gone to that.
I wasn't invited.
Yes, you were.
You dick.
We mentioned it on the show.
It's not the same.
And then Jimmy V, although I'm trying to cut back on these mentions, but it was too good, is now forwarding to NoAgendaShow.com the domain name George Clooney is a spy.
George Clooney.
George Clooney is a spy.
Which I think is a nice domain name.
It is good.
Yeah.
He should buy it from us.
Yeah.
He's currently dating the WikiLeaks lawyer.
Yeah, I saw that.
A new WikiLeaks lawyer.
I've never even seen this one.
She's hot!
No, we've seen her.
No, no.
I have never, never seen this one.
No.
Well, I think she's the one.
She's probably the one because Assange's girlfriend ran off with the other guy.
Yeah, with Snowden.
So he decided to see if he could make her jealous with this hottie.
Well, definitely.
But then Clooney takes her.
That bastard Clooney comes in and takes her.
And you know he doesn't even want her.
You know, he's gay.
He doesn't really want her.
It's just arm candy for the White House.
He's got good taste.
Yeah, he does have good taste.
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Mm-hmm.
I found an interesting new media trend.
A new media trend?
A new media trend?
Is it a meme or a trend?
It's a predicted trend.
Okay.
It's not a meme.
You know when you watch a news show and you do a remote?
You're the remote guy and you throw it back to the studio.
Yeah, but are you going to throw it to me first?
No, no, you're just finishing a report.
Throw it to me.
And that's it here on location in Austin, Texas.
Adam Curry, WNBC. Back to you in the studio, John.
Now, at this point I can say...
I can say, usually I say...
Thank you, Adam.
Great report.
Yeah.
Well, okay.
Well, never mind.
What?
I'm noticing, I don't see as many thank yous.
Really?
Yeah.
I see mostly they either back announce who it was.
That was Adam Curry.
Right.
Or they ignore it.
Well, I've seen more ignoring, but that's on more national scale, the local scale.
The national news tends to ignore.
Yes, local scale is still, you know, their colleagues.
I don't hear the thank yous.
That's the reason I had this little meme, because Scott Pelley is constantly thanking the reporter, but he does it in such a way that you think the guy's working for free.
I have thanks two and thanks three.
Is there a thanks one?
The thanks one is CBS Thanks.
Oh, gotcha.
Michelle Miller in Manhattan.
Michelle, thanks very much.
Thanks very much.
I says thanks very much.
Yeah.
So you would throw it back to me and I'd say, Adam Curry, thanks very much since we're not paying you anything.
You're right.
I'm going to give you a hearty thanks.
A little thanks.
I don't see the other reporters.
I don't see the other anchors doing this.
Can I try to?
Yeah, play another one.
Scott, that could be later this summer.
Bob, thanks very much.
Today, signed...
Thanks very much.
No, but no, no.
We see, in this case, he's the commander of the ship.
You see, and he doesn't have a co-anchor, like a local news report.
It's just him.
And so he's kind of the captain, and he wants everyone to know that, you know, hey, you're kind of, hey, you know, you're in my ship here.
Thanks for your report.
Doctor, thanks very much.
Thanks very much.
Well, that's what I'm going to do with you.
Thanks very much.
Thanks very much.
I'm just going to say the thanks very much.
Now, that you mentioned the co-anchor thing is interesting, too, because that actually harkens back to Huntley and Brinkley.
I think they were the first co-anchors because the news in the 50s and 60s, you know, had been – was evolving from radio.
And radio was, you know, mostly reports from overseas.
And then when they came to TV, they needed somebody to coordinate all this stuff.
And they never used two people.
And so it was a huge revolution when they had two people that could go back and forth.
The only remnant of that is the PBS NewsHour, and rarely the two people are...
Now they're kind of on two separate desks, and then sometimes they're at the same desk.
But the local news has stuck with this old formula, where there's two, three, and four people at the desk.
Well, you have to have your two anchors, male, female, obviously.
Then you have to have your sports guy and your weatherman.
Right.
That's it.
That is the formula.
And this has been going on for decades.
If someone actually came in and changed it up, boy, it would be an upset.
I don't think anyone has the guts to change it.
But it's also necessary because these people make so little money that you need to...
You need to fire one of them and pay the other three more.
No, there's always going to be someone who doesn't feel good that morning.
Then the weather guy can sit in.
It's a true and tested formula.
This stemmed from two guys, Huntley and Brinkley, and you never see two guys on Locos, either a guy and a woman or two women.
I don't...
Where's two women?
We get two women a lot here.
Oh, of course.
It's California.
Ah, that reminds me.
Okay, you sent an email this morning, and I'm glad you sent that, because otherwise I wouldn't be able to set this segment up properly.
Let me see if I can find this.
I'm just going to paraphrase.
It was about the...
Someone sent us a thing about the gays in Uganda.
And you don't usually reply to people, certainly not in this length, but I think the crux of what you said was, I'm sick and tired of gay news.
Was that kind of what you said?
Well, no, I didn't say that.
But I said I'm sick and tired of this dissociated gay agenda.
Not gay agenda, but gay rights news in Africa and other places.
When we did the gay stuff about...
Russia.
We're not gay, so we shouldn't be reporting on the gays.
I mean I mentioned – I didn't mention, but I was going to say that if you – it's really bad when you read a guy writing about technology who knows nothing.
He always gets something wrong and it's offensive to read it, and I feel the same way about this.
Right, right.
But in this case – People don't realize that when we were really dissecting this gay thing going on in Sochi, it was because it had a political agenda behind it.
It was an attempt to embarrass the Olympics, embarrass Putin.
It was a bunch of crap going around.
It had nothing to do with supporting gay marriage or whatever.
I don't know.
Whatever the case is, I don't care about these gay stories in Africa because they don't have any political connection to anything.
Ah, ah, ah.
I found it.
I found it.
I got to take you through the process how I found it.
Okay, so you found something that makes it actually relevant.
Completely relevant.
Okay, now that's fine.
All right.
This guy didn't have that.
He just had stories about gays.
Right.
And this is a broader...
This is not just Africa.
And Mickey actually asked me to do the full acronym once again, LGBTQQIAAP. I have to do this because...
A-E-I-O-U. Lesbian, Gay, Bicurious, Bisexual, Transgendered, Queer, Questioning, Intersex, Asexual, Allied, and Pansexual.
That is the full acronym, and if you are not one of those, you are a homophobe.
What was the last one again?
It's Allied...
No, no, Pansexual.
Pansexual are people who fall in love with other people regardless of their sex.
It's only about them.
I know.
Please.
I know.
Don't even get me started.
Okay.
So what we witnessed with Russia...
I believe was a great test balloon, and the test balloon was to see if we could get the West, the United States, and certainly Europe, all riled up about LGBTQQIAP and basically gay rights.
And I don't believe in gay rights.
I believe in everyone's a human, and I should have just as many straight rights or heteroflexible rights or whatever.
Gay rights is bullshit to me.
It's just another thing.
I don't like that at all.
It's like hate crime.
It's a crime.
I committed the crime without hate.
We figured it out.
Go on.
If I'm boring you already, you can go figure it out for yourself.
No, you're not boring me, but you're taking a dissociating what seems like you've got a trend that you want to talk about, but now you're making excuses for yourself.
No.
I want to hear about the story.
It's important because we always have new listeners and they need to understand where we're coming from.
So this started for me with an amazing new report only days after we had that douchebag from the Southern Poverty Law Center, POTOC, talking about how so many hate groups ever since the black man in the White House, everyone wants to kill him.
And now all of a sudden he's back.
Now this is suspicious to me.
I'm like, wait a minute.
He's back in the news and with a new story.
That hate groups are down 19%.
Down, I tell you.
That's just the opposite of what he said.
Down 19%.
And so I had to...
In one week?
Well, he needed to be in the news, and it was this report that led me to the next report, which led me to what's really going on and how the gay, just gay, everyone's just this LGBT, you're all gay.
The gay community is being abused now.
By the Democratic Party.
And I'm going to show you how this is happening.
So first, we've got to listen to this report.
And I think this might be with...
I forget who it was with.
Let's first talk about the analysis here.
That you've seen this reversal after...
And we've talked in the past.
It seemed year after year, these numbers were ticking up after the election of the first black president.
I love how she...
She even says it right there.
That's Melissa Harris-Perry, I think, by the way.
Who is black?
That's true.
They were growing based very largely on antipathy to Obama personally and to what he really represented, which was the demographic change that's going on in this country, the coming, over the next 30 years, loss of a white majority.
The growth was absolutely spectacular for four years.
Great for business!
But I think what really happened, in part, was when the radical right saw Obama re-elect Listen very carefully to the words he's saying.
The radical right saw Obama re-elected.
After so much effort on their part, as well as other forces in the political arena, to kind of dethrone Obama, at this point their reaction was one of real deflation, of dejection.
They had done everything they could.
They did not expect to see Obama re-elected, and yet he was.
And at the same time, of course, things like same-sex marriage are advancing very rapidly.
And all of that, I think, is really dismaying to these groups.
In your report, you identify what you say is, quote, patriot extremist groups.
How do you describe or define those groups?
Okay, so maybe this is starting to shape in your mind what I was hearing.
You're saying, oh, it's down because the radical right saw the re-election making the radical right, I guess, politically minded.
Also gays, oh, they saw the gay thing happening.
They're, oh, we're distraught.
So they're disheartened.
Disheartened.
They're on the decline, though.
Now, he's going to describe who this is.
We've got them on the run.
Yes.
Who are they?
The Patriot Groups, that is their own name for themselves, Patriot Groups or Christian Patriot Groups, are what we all used to call militias back in the 1990s.
They are a movement, really, that is unified mainly by a conspiracy theory, the idea that the government is secretly plotting to impose martial law.
Yes.
To take Americans' guns away from them, to throw anyone who resists into concentration camps that have been built by FEMA secretly, and ultimately to force the United States into a kind of socialistic one-world government.
Yes, exactly.
Okay, so that sounds like a lot of people.
By the way.
I like the way he puts these together because we have people listening to the news.
Christian militia is like a term in and of itself that applies to the Africans.
Don't move too fast.
I want to get there.
You are almost there.
But first, we have to go to the next gay news story, which was, of course, SB 1062 in Arizona.
Another storm in a teacup.
We don't even need to discuss what it was about because it's been vetoed.
It's not going to happen.
But the message was, Arizona hates gays.
What do you do?
You've got to bring out the number one left-wing gay guy we know, who everybody loves, by the way, and is a part of Hollywood, that can only be one guy.
Yes, you may guess.
Ronald Reagan Jr.
Oh, so close.
Oh, it wasn't?
Nope.
George Takei of...
Oh, no.
Ronald Reagan Jr.
would have been better.
No, no, no.
Because Takei, he is the one that clued me into what's really going on.
Here it comes.
George Takei joins me here in the studio.
This, by the way, is Ronan Farrow.
Ronan Farrow is gay.
Hello!
Ronan Farrow.
I didn't know that.
No, I don't know if he's gay, but this is Ronan Farrow, his show.
This sounds like him.
His new MSN... He's a pretty boy, by the way.
His new MSNBC show.
You know Frank Sinatra was his dad, by the way.
It's so obvious.
Yeah.
Give me a break.
Ugly Woody Harrelson.
Woody...
Woody...
Joe, thank you so much for coming, sir.
Thank you for this invitation, and congratulations on your new show.
Thank you so much.
I'm a big fan of yours, and this was a letter that moved a lot of people.
Tell me how you felt when you read the language of this bill, which contemplates essentially kicking yourself and your partner out of places of business.
My husband.
What was the reaction that you had?
First of all, it was absolute astonishment.
And then my blood started to boil.
We love Arizona.
We have many, many friends there.
Brad was born in Phoenix, Arizona.
We have relatives there.
And a beautiful state.
And how can a state like that pass something this ugly?
Both houses of the legislature passed it, and it's filled with right-wing extremist religious Republicans.
Finally.
Okay, George, thank you for pointing it out.
Christian, religious, right-wing Republicans.
Now we go to Africa.
And this is what I've been waiting for.
And we find the movie, the documentary, which is, of course, I don't even have to tell you who paid for this.
It is the usual suspects.
They're all in there, all the NGOs.
It's called God Loves Uganda.
And I'm just going to play a little bit of the trailer and you'll hear what is going on here.
Something frightening is happening in Uganda.
I foresee a lot of death.
The fire has already been set.
And I think it is important to trace it back to where it is coming from.
So the fire has been set.
It's important to trace it back.
Where is this gay hate in Uganda coming from?
The International Hustle Prep began in 1999.
We have about a thousand full-time staff.
We're called to be a missionary people.
I believe the Lord is calling me to pray for a great missionary force.
America's not yet done sending her sons and daughters to bring the gospel to the nations.
Most of these young people, it's a time to have an adventure.
But the poor African listening to them think that's how things should be.
The Bible will say, okay, all sex outside of marriage is wrong.
So adultery is wrong, fornication is wrong, acts of homosexuality are wrong.
Homosexuality does not benefit the society.
Alright, so you can watch all that trailer on your own, but what is being said, and what is now going to be all over the news, is that the fundamental Christians, i.e.
the crazy Christian Republicans, are responsible for all the gay hate, specifically the International House of Prayer and Scott Lively.
And Scott Lively is a Tea Party spokesman.
He ran for governor of Massachusetts.
He's the guy who's challenging the president on Uganda.
They are holding him up as responsible, not just for Africa.
He apparently also went to Russia in 2007 and taught everybody that they need to be against gays.
And the whole plan, because believe me, no one in the government cares about you if you're gay, the whole plan is for you to hate Republicans more.
The gun thing didn't work out that well.
The war on women didn't work out that well.
But hey, they want to kill gays in Africa because of a Republican.
Watch it.
I guarantee you.
It's the Arizona thing.
Oh, it's crazy Christian religious Republicans who hate gays.
It's Africa crazy Christian Republicans who hate gays.
And they're in America.
The whole thing is against the Republican Party.
You are being misused once again.
Yeah, that's a good analysis.
I like it.
I think there's some more going on in the African side of it.
Because the Chiners have to be involved and the Muslims have to be involved.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Alec Baldwin's a part of the scam, John.
Did you read the essay?
Yes, of course.
I'm leaving public life because people think I hate gays.
This is all part of it.
He is a brilliant guy, by the way.
He's brilliant.
He's always got some commercial angle, and I'm pretty sure that this essay of, oh, I love gays, how can people think I hate gays, is just to point out that you can't hate gays, or you will have to go away out of public life.
That's what his essay is about.
I like that.
That's your ten-pointer right there.
Thank you.
And we can just wait for it.
And again, people...
If you hate gays...
You're a Republican.
You will be shunned.
No, if you're a Republican...
That's why...
No, I think it traces...
Let's wrap it around.
Let's make a circle out of this.
The LGBTQ, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Like you said, either you're one of them or...
You're a Republican.
You're a Republican homophobe.
Yes!
You don't want to be in that camp of being a Republican homophobe.
And notice, there's no...
Well, they've done a great job of it.
I mean, they use the guns not because they want to do it, right?
Turn your speakers up a little.
Turn your speakers up a little.
You're not hearing me when I'm interjecting.
I know maybe it's on purpose.
Oh, I'm hearing you, but I'm...
Oh, okay.
I just wanted to say there's no R in LGBTQIAAP. Huh?
Coincidence?
I think not.
I would say that I think you're on to something, but I think it's part of the bigger picture, which we already identified, which is the gun thing was designed to get the women to...
To move over.
Get them out of the Republican Party.
This is more designed to get, you know, the...
I don't know who's going to...
Someone was brilliant when they came up with the strategy.
That's a great strategy, but I don't know who's going to change sides because of the strategy because I think they've already moved everybody over.
I don't think there's a Republican left.
A Republican who...
No, no, no.
It's all theater of the mind.
It's just, no one's going to know the difference.
It's just, it's now, the die has been cast, the mold has been set.
If you're a Republican, you hate gays.
Done.
That's it.
If you're a Republican, you must be a religious nut.
This is, John, everywhere I go in this town, whenever the term, whenever a Republican comes up, it's always equated, certainly in Texas, with religious nut.
Right.
Always.
Yeah.
Religious, gun-toting, women-hating because we don't want women to have control over their bodies, religious, crazy, gay-hating nut.
And a lot of the gays I know here are Republicans, actually.
There's a lot of gay Republicans, that's the irony of this, of course, but that can't be discussed.
No.
Yeah, no, I think they've done a great job of painting...
Painting the Republicans as all these negative things, and the Republicans have done a piss-poor job of countering it.
Piss-poor.
Well, but that's almost a no-win situation, because what are you going to do?
No, some of my best friends are LGBTQIAB. You can't do that.
That doesn't work.
No, you can't do anything.
There's nothing to say.
It's done.
This is dog-eat-dog.
They have to discredit...
Look, no one cares about wiretapping, NSA. No one gives a crap about that.
Gays.
We care about our gays here in America.
Mickey is laughing her ass off.
She's the most homophobic country that she's ever been in.
America is now pretending to be the super gay-friendliest place on Earth.
It's like Disneyland for gays.
Now, this is heresy.
All right.
Well, I take it back to what I noted.
My thinking was that the Ugandan news was, and it was presented to us as such, was just a distraction.
But if it's part of a deeper scheme, which is what you're thinking, which I would have to agree with because you have too much evidence, you've pounded me into submission, as it were.
No pun intended.
And I still think it's a useful tool in Uganda because you just say, that guy's gay, shoot him, and then you get rid of a political opponent.
He eated a poo-poo.
And it's very easy to deal with.
But, okay.
Yeah, no, of course it is.
So we'll keep an eye on this, but I think the Republicans have been...
I've never seen anything quite like it, how poorly they've...
You know, they bring it back to, you know, economic things and stuff like...
They can't even do that now because they've dug such a big hole at George Bush.
It's...
I don't...
Is there even a headquarters for the Republican Party?
Does it even exist anymore?
It makes...
They might as well just give it up.
Throw in the towel.
Obama finishes his...
Eight years.
You should just hand the keys over to Hillary.
Why bother wasting money on an election?
And this, of course, is happening now because of the midterm election.
We have elections coming up in November.
We can't have Republicans.
This is a desperate move, and they will abuse anybody to keep control or gain more control, more power.
It's a desperate, desperate move, and you're just going to see more and more of this.
And quite frankly, I'm astonished that the religious community puts up.
Do you know how much grief, if we just discuss religion, if we just, not even giving our own opinion, just discussing the options that are out there.
Oh my gosh!
There we go, taking the Lord's name in vain.
The amount of emails I get, you pissed me off when you were talking, you don't think God could make this, like, please people.
You're fighting the wrong guy.
You need to be fighting the Democrats who are vilifying anyone who believes in God.
Crazy Christian, right?
Yeah, they are fighting the wrong guys and they're fighting our show.
It's ridiculous.
Yeah, it really, it's disturbing.
We have this one guy who keeps, I haven't heard from him for a while, but he's like, he religiously listens to the show, and then he never donates, never helps, doesn't have any positive thing to contribute.
And he sends a note in every, about once every 60 days, I was about to donate.
And that's the guy.
I was about to donate.
And then all of a sudden, Adam, it's always me, by the way.
Yeah, it is always you.
Always me.
But your partner, Adam Curry, once again took the Lord's name in vain, which you don't do, by the way.
And I always apologize.
I mean, you swear and you spit venom, but you don't really use the Lord's name in vain.
If I do, then I apologize.
You'd never do it.
Not anymore.
But that's okay.
He's apparently saying anything.
A-hole.
You know, if you use the word screwball.
I don't know what he thinks this would do.
But anyway, so he says this nasty note.
It's always anonymous.
It's always got the postmark is from some, you know, you can't tell where it's from.
There's no return address or anything.
You know, it's just, okay, fine.
Every show, I guess, has one of these guys.
Yeah.
But again, I think you're dead on.
They are fighting the wrong people.
Anyone who writes us about religion or even gayness, they should be writing to somebody that gives a crap about their feelings on this because they're wasting their time.
And they're going after the wrong people.
Did you see that tweet that I received?
It was kind of funny.
But just now?
No, and it was yesterday.
And this is in relation to, I guess, the guy who was doing this just heard our thing about Pussy Riot.
And of course, Pussy Riot, by the way, they're back.
So they got out of jail, went to America, got fired from the band.
Then they were on stage with Madonna in New York at Amnesty International.
Then two weeks later, amazing, Russia lets them back into the country so they can be arrested again.
Okay.
And beaten by Cossacks.
And beaten by...
So, you know, of course, we were laughing about the video, the music video they were creating.
And, you know, that, oh, boy, he really whipped her hard.
And then, of course, nothing happened.
And this guy...
I won't give you his Twitter name, because screw him.
He's got riffraff, three followers.
Why would you, you know, what I do, I just immediately block those guys.
No, because it's funny.
Adam Curry is a heartless bastard, a self-congratulatory racist, anti-Semitic, patriarchal, and superficial conspiracy idiot.
Hashtag no agenda.
Well, at least he's good at summarizing.
Yeah.
I'm like, wow.
And that's all because...
Yeah, why was that put into one bowl like that?
Because I laughed about Pussy Riot being whipped.
Oh.
The guy's crazy.
That Pussy Riot thing was such a fraud.
It's so obvious.
It's such an obvious scare.
And everybody's running it on all the news channels.
Yeah, same video.
Oh, I just want to complete my list.
We finished House of Cards Season 2.
Yeah, Mimi finished it too.
Let me tell you what she said.
I didn't see it.
I'm going to see it when I feel like it.
I'm going to throw something at you.
I want you to tell me if this might be a correct analysis.
She says it seems as if...
The story did end, but she seems as if they did a lot of leaps of faith in the middle of it to move the story along faster and faster as if they were actually planning from the get-go, from the very origins of the show, to do three seasons and do a three-season arc.
But because Spacey...
And I've heard him talk about this.
He just looks at his time.
A lot of time and money is spent on this that could be better spent.
He runs a theater in England, the old Vic.
He does a lot of movies.
He can make more money doing movies.
They said, no, we're doing two.
So they rushed the story along and you felt that there should have been a third season and they jammed it into this one.
There could easily be a third season.
I don't want to spoil anything.
There could easily be a third season.
I still liked it.
I thought it was a great piece of work.
I have no idea what his deal is.
I think he got a lot of money for this.
I think for the 13 hours, if he had done six movies, which would be about 13 hours, I think he would have gotten a lot more money.
Well, if it's a hit movie.
This is kind of guaranteed...
The only thing, I just want to list the prostitutes who all contributed as actors in this series.
Oh, yeah.
These are the people, of course, you couldn't trust them anyway, but their credentials, they should be stripped of their credentials.
Ashley Banfield, Candy Crawley, Major Garrett, Rachel Maddow, Chris Hayes, Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, all of you are prestitute actor whores.
And you are not allowed to, you should be stripped of your journalistic credentials.
I think Hannity was in the first series.
And Hannity, I'm sorry, Hannity was in there as well, you're right.
It just shows.
And they're exactly like they are on their new show, because they are actors.
That's it.
There's nothing more or less two actors.
Yeah, no, I can't argue with that.
And they should be stripped of their credentials.
Major Garrett.
Really, Major Garrett.
How do you name a kid Major?
I know, I know.
You can imagine if...
You really got to be pretty sure your kid's never going into the military if you name him Major.
You know, it can't be Sergeant Major.
It can't be Major Major.
Sergeant Major Major.
General Major.
What's your minor, Major?
Yeah, I'm not going to argue about that.
I think, but it harkens me back.
Somebody did send the clip, I didn't chop it up to use it on the show today, of Michael Savage bitching about the native advertising that he was presented with.
Yeah, you talked about it.
It ended up on Hannity.
On Hannity.
And Hannity still...
Now he's doing fundraising for the Tea Party Patriots, which is one of these groups.
And it's a conflict with his Fox...
Uh, TV show, but he says, no, it's for the radio show.
As if there's, you know, he's not this bull crap.
As if there's some difference, yeah.
So that Fox doesn't know what to do with this guy because he's completely out of control.
He's just grabbing as much money as he can because he's getting, he's just, I think he's going to retire or quit or something or run for office.
I have no idea where this guy's headed, but it's, he's completely off the rails.
Hannity?
Yeah.
Don't we, do we still have seanhannity.com?
Is that still our website?
Yeah, I think so.
Let me just check it.
You'd think that they would...
SeanHannity.com is forwarding to No Agenda show.
Perfect.
Yeah.
Good work.
You could have bought it from us by now.
Well, we don't own it.
Someone else owns it.
Well, they bought it from someone.
Oh, hold on a second, John.
Oh, my goodness.
It's just in.
John, we have breaking news.
Breaking news.
Yeah.
Another dog story.
This is Yoda.
He's drowsy, a little disoriented, and let's face it, looks a little goofy.
His tongue sticks out like he's institutionalized.
But he's actually not high, something Dr.
Kevin Fitzgerald is seeing more and more of.
We're definitely seeing, you know, more than one a week.
Since January 1st, the clinic says dogs are getting into their owner's supply of pot.
So the kid eating the pot cookie didn't work.
Wait, stop.
It didn't go over.
How does a dog roll a joint in the first place?
No, no, no.
It's the edibles.
Specifically, edibles.
What we're seeing is dogs getting into the baked products.
The concern here is...
Hey, my dog is baked.
...that edibles have a concentration of marijuana meant for controlled human consumption.
Okay.
Hold on a second.
It's dogs and gays.
I'm telling you, that's it.
That's the strategy.
Now, the dogs, the main, just let's be real here.
The main edibles when it comes to, although they do sell lollipops in Amsterdam, but the main edibles, insofar as marijuana is concerned, has traditionally, and I think is still dominated by brownies.
Brownies contain chocolate, which can kill a dog.
Kill the dog.
So in other words, it would be the chocolate that was damaging the dog, not the dope, if they were eating brownies.
But they show the dog with his tongue hanging out and he's looking all goofy.
Yeah, the dog is poisoned by chocolate.
I'll tell you something.
If a dog was sniffing at my weed, I'd shoot that bitch.
Get off of my weed!
It's just another way of misusing gays and dogs to further agenda.
Four to one.
It's four to one.
It's four dogs to one now, John.
Four dog stories.
Four dog biscuits.
Four DB over one.
It's amazing.
I just love that people are no longer...
It used to be the kids.
Save the kids.
I mean, eh, that doesn't work anymore.
It used to be, you know, people, like, oh, they're getting killed.
No one cares.
But dogs?
Yeah, dogs are in.
Now, I want you, just another quiz.
I want you to tell me what kind of a clip, kind of a, I got a couple of clips that just baffled me.
Okay.
This one here is the Boehner clip that says blah, blah, blah.
It's only part of the question.
I didn't even play the whole thing.
This is Gwen Ifill, the Obama hagiographer, bringing up an issue, and then they go to Boehner, a clip of him, and let's just listen to this.
...earned incomes over $450,000.
House Speaker John Boehner would not say if the party supports the bill, and he refused to discuss the details.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
That's the best I've ever heard coming out of his mouth.
What was that all about?
I don't know.
That was on PBS? That was the real story?
Yeah, that was the news hour.
Ah, jeez.
You know, there were some really dumb distractions this week.
I mean, like, really, really dumb ones.
Here's one.
A head lice removal company said the number of cases has taken a big jump in the past year, and they believe lice could be spreading among teens when they lean in, touch their heads, and take selfies with their cell phones.
Most teens admit that they take at least one selfie each day.
Experts say parents need to warn kids that while those pictures might be fun, they could also have some unpleasant consequences.
What?
I know, I know, I know.
This is the stupidest story ever.
No, no, this is the stupidest story ever.
As if learning her phone had been tapped by the NSA was not bad enough, now German Chancellor Angela Merkel has the distinct dishonor of trending on Twitter over what looks like a Hitler mustache and a photo she took while standing next to the Prime Minister of Israel.
This was such an interesting story to me.
Because, of course, we have a Jew standing next to a Nazi.
Let's just say it.
You know, this is what everyone...
Ha ha ha ha!
And the Israeli blogs, they were laughing.
It was so hilarious.
Whereas, really, it's shameful.
It is shameful that this is humor.
Because we pull the Nazi card for everything and everybody.
Nazi this.
Assad is a Nazi.
This guy's a Nazi.
They're all Nazis.
They're fucking Nazis.
But then when you have a German Chancellor, who, by the way, is pretty much leading Europe, and it may even be Photoshop, but let's say it's true, and then you get the Jew guy, ha ha ha ha ha, Pointing his finger and it looks like a Nazi mustache.
This is supposed to be the funniest thing, and all media is on it.
Shameful.
The Jerusalem Post snapped this photo of Merkel with Benjamin Netanyahu as they marked 50 years of diplomacy between their two nations.
But the photographer happened to take the picture just as Netanyahu lifted his finger, casting a rather unfortunate shadow across the chancellor's upper lip.
It did not take long for the shot to go viral, with some labeling it the most awkward political photo in history.
Yeah.
It's such a double standard.
I find this a huge insult.
A huge insult coming from Europe.
I'm not going to argue.
Anyone draws a mustache on Obama?
A little Hitler mustache?
You get arrested.
You get thrown in jail.
You can't do this.
This is horrible.
And I was particularly disappointed by the Jewish blogs.
The Israeli blogs, I should say.
They thought this was so hilarious.
Okay, that's fine.
But then when something else happens...
I'm looking at one of these things here.
This has been boosted.
There's no doubt about it.
Well, the shadow has definitely been boosted.
Yes.
Well...
The shadows of her...
Ah, forensic analysis with John C. Dvorak.
Here we go.
The shadows don't make sense anyplace else except right across her nose.
And shadows are never black.
Under no circumstances are they black.
They're always grayish.
And this one is ridiculous.
Yeah.
So somebody...
It's easy to do.
You take one of the channels that's got this...
You just fool around with channels and one of them will...
Or curves.
There's all kinds of settings on Photoshop that would push this thing up.
By the way, if I'm looking at pictures, if you do a Google image search, I'm seeing different versions of this picture.
Interesting.
If you look at the Reddit, where the flag is in a different position, there's at least four different versions of this picture.
For four different people.
Oh, yeah.
And she's leaning in differently.
I'm thinking the shadow is bullshit.
I'm with you on this.
This makes no sense.
Yeah, so we're looking at a Photoshop job.
Yeah.
But who are we...
Was this meant to humiliate Merkel?
Yeah.
It's disgusting.
I think so.
It's so infantile.
This is the level that we've gotten to now in our media.
Ha ha ha!
They were talking about 50 years of working together.
Ha ha ha!
It's still Jews and Nazis!
Ha ha ha ha!
That's the media for you.
Sad.
Yeah, I'm looking at these, yeah.
And then, of course, if you really dig out, you have a picture of her with a Heil Hitler salute.
Well, see, it's okay, but whenever we laugh about other things, when the president says, Heil everybody, you might get, oh, you're putting up a world war.
You're disrespecting the president.
Disrespecting the president.
He says, Heil everybody.
Come on.
You can hear it.
We know what's going on.
So, I just found that to be sad, really.
Sad.
I would like to find the original.
Too bad I don't see the original version.
The guy who originally took the picture is the one who did the original Photoshop job because there's no evidence of it.
Yeah.
It just boosted something and bingo, there it is.
Especially this one shot is so well lit from every direction that there's no way.
Yeah.
That you would have that shadow, black, black shadow.
Yeah.
Okay, you got the dumb.
It's not clip of the day.
No, it's not clip of the day.
How about this one, though?
I do want to go back to Africa for a moment because, of course, we are keeping our eye on Africa and how are we going to kick the Chinese out and take over anything that they've built.
And do you remember, well, of course you do, IBM's Watson?
Of course I do.
Okay.
Okay.
How did Watson do in America?
Basically, it won at Jeopardy, and then kind of nothing really happened.
They didn't really get any big contracts.
We knew that they were going to turn Watson into a product.
Right.
A healthcare product, which really didn't work that well.
I don't think they've sold it.
They have not sold it to anyone.
By the way, in the 80s, there were these things called expert systems.
And there was a huge artificial intelligence binge that was around the early 80s.
That's the first version of big data.
Yeah.
AI. AI. It's going to be artificial intelligence.
So they had all these ideas and they all failed.
Right.
One of them was a doctor that would diagnose your conditions, but that's actually taken its rightful place as WebMD and these other websites.
I guarantee you go there with some symptoms and it always ends up the same.
It's like because of legal issues.
You go, well, I got this, I got that, I got this, I got that.
Oh, well, you should consult your physician because we can't tell you what you've got because we'll be liable and sued and we'll die.
So there's this useless crap.
And so Watson was hoping to do an end run around it and maybe a nurse.
But you still have to have somebody there to...
So, right, so IBM, and you're about to hear a report with IBM Africa.
This is actually, it's from Bloomberg, but the guy you'll hear talking is from IBM Africa.
They've found a market.
They have found a market for Watson in Africa.
It's only going to cost some countries there $100 million.
This is a great sale.
This guy at IBM Africa, he's on a fast track to sit with the white people in the boardroom.
I'm telling you.
Hang in there, buddy.
IBM began rolling out its Watson supercomputer system across Africa this week.
It's called Project Lucy.
Project Lucy, by the way, is what it's called.
This is Project Lucy.
And will take 10 years and 100 million years dollars to implement.
The system uses artificial intelligence that can analyze huge amounts of data.
Although it hasn't been that successful in the United States, IBM hopes Africa will be different.
Now, what do you think the business is that Watson will be in over this 10-year period for hundreds of millions of US dollars?
Well, it wouldn't be...
Remember, big data and artificial intelligence.
I would say it wouldn't be medical because that would be too obvious.
You've got to think scam.
Total scam, not just intelligence gathering?
You've got to just think scam.
Oh, you're going to have to tell me.
With Watson, Africa is going to become the cognitive continent of the world.
Africa really has no choice but to embrace cognitive.
What?
Cognitive.
Listen, cognitive.
Otherwise, governments will have to look for that extra billions of dollars.
What Watson is going to do is to create new markets.
It's going to create new markets.
Through cognitive computing.
Through cognitive computing.
IBM says the technology will enable poorer parts of Africa to leapfrog some development stages much the same way mobile phones took off across the continent in places where landlines were scarce.
Phones will also play a huge role in connecting with the Watson system through smartphone apps that could potentially be hugely beneficial for education.
Okay, so I'll explain it a little.
Through cognitive computing and big data and artificial intelligence, Watson is going to gather all this data and find new markets for the Africans, very much like the mobile phone market.
It will find new markets and present these...
Basically, you install Watson in your country.
And it goes...
And it spits out a piece of paper that says...
You should be in this market.
And they'll tell you what it should be.
You should be in plastics.
And they're buying it.
Do you know that in Nigeria, 10 to 15 million kids have never stepped foot in a classroom?
Yeah.
What does that mean?
It means that we've got to think outside of the box.
We need new...
This is the IBM Africa guy.
Cognitive computing.
We've got to think out of the box.
Hey, people are...
Hey, Adam.
Hey, Adam.
These guys down the street, they're beating each other up.
Think out of the box.
And they're shooting each other.
We've got to think outside of the box.
Yeah.
I'm thinking outside of the box that's anywhere near the shooting.
Hello, 1980 is calling Africa.
We want our memes back.
Our approach is to content delivery.
The traditional brick and mortar won't work.
This guy literally went to that website.
He went to that website.
He said, we've got to think out of the box.
Brick and mortar won't work.
We need new approaches to content delivery.
New approaches to content delivery.
The traditional brick and mortar won't work.
Think out of the box.
While Watson's potential is undeniable, it will take time to implement the system across the continent and time to see if it's viable or just another pipe dream.
Another pipe dream.
It's another pipe dream.
Yeah.
Hello, Africa.
You're getting ripped off.
Don't fall for it.
That sales guy is, well, maybe it works in Africa.
We should take our old sales pitches and recycle them in Africa like we do our old computers.
Yeah.
Where's that PowerPoint I had on brick and mortar?
That is literally from 1992.
Oh, brick and mortar is all over.
Yeah, it hasn't quite yet evolved to click and mortar.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, we could introduce that.
Unreal.
I'm sorry, Africa.
I got to go to Africa.
I really got to go.
We got to go.
You'll find it's very entertaining.
Well, of course, I lived there for a while, but I don't remember much.
For a kid.
Yeah.
Who was saying that?
Was that a clip that I had?
Someone was talking about it being the worst ever.
Maybe that was the Carrie stuff.
Maybe it was Andrea Mitchell.
She was talking about Syria was the worst ever.
No, it's not.
Have you heard of Rwanda?
There's so much madness going on.
I got another clip of a weird thing.
This is a guy that was on CCTV, the Chinese outlet.
And this is one of these guys who's obviously been trained.
It's like, oh, that's a great question.
You just kind of retort.
But this one here, now I think about it.
I think I've heard this before.
It's a non-sequitur.
When somebody asks you a question, you say this.
This is the lead into it.
The weird clip?
Yeah, I got it.
Yet, it comes with a balance of trying to grow the economy and facilitate robust growth in manufacturing.
So how does one strike that balance?
Definitely.
That's what Zuckerberg always says.
How do you say...
I'm going to ask you a question, Adam.
So what did you do last night?
Definitely, we had an early night and...
Why would you say that?
I don't know, right?
You've got to add that.
Definitely, we had an early night, right?
It's the crazy speak.
Zuckerberg says definitely a lot.
I've noticed him using that.
So maybe a Valley thing.
You know, before we go into break, there was a...
Actually, it was quite a...
Let me see if...
Do I have that here?
There was...
Well, crapola.
Where did I put this now?
Well, if you don't have that, I got a clip.
There's something screwy going on in Egypt and I'm predicting right here and now that this last episode of this turnover of government is going to happen again because these people are just ruining the country, whatever's going on.
This clip I have, which is the farmland issues under weird farmland issues.
When you listen to it, essentially what happened since 2011 is that there's a limited number of farmers.
This is a backgrounder on the whole agricultural scene in Egypt.
And the government response to the problem, which is people are just moving into the agricultural area and making it so people are going to starve to death.
Here in the Nile Delta, these fields produce around half of Egypt's agricultural crops.
But these fertile farmlands are shrinking fast, as a building boom is underway.
Since the 2011 revolution, the number of homes built illegally on farmland has risen exponentially.
Egypt's population has grown by 4 million in the past three years, and more people means more houses are needed.
Farmers here say around 20% of the delta's arable land has been lost since 2011.
People went down and built on the farmland intensively, and there was no one to bring them to account.
So of course, after the revolution, there were a lot of complaints regarding the farmland.
There is a law prohibiting construction on valuable agricultural land, but the government says it's nigh on impossible to enforce.
It's not possible to be done by law, by force.
It has to be a society movement rather than a police movement.
Who was that?
What?
So what he says, this guy, he's the attorney general or something, says, ah, yeah, there's a law against it, but there's nothing we can do.
Right.
Yes, there is.
You get a bulldozer.
Right.
And you bulldoze these places, but no, they say, no, no, the law, yeah, there's a law, but we can't enforce it, and there has to be a popular movement.
People have to take up arms to get these people off these agricultural properties.
This is corruption.
What?
There's corruption in Egypt?
Oh, no!
And you remember when the first Egypt thing began, it was really, and we kind of always forgot about this, we don't bring it up much, it was over the price of wheat.
Yes, yes, yes.
Yeah, they couldn't eat.
80 million people.
Yeah, I do remember.
Bill Moyer's show.
He's on PBS. This is our national television treasure.
They have commercials every 15 minutes.
So this is not like some...
They pretend to look like they're all good on the up and up.
And he had on a guy who wrote an essay.
His name is Mike Lofgren.
Mike Lofgren was a Republican congressional aide.
And let me see, what do we have in his wiki?
American, former Republican U.S. congressional aide, 28 years of congressional staff member.
And he wrote for BillMoyers.com an essay titled, Anatomy of the Deep State.
And, like you would expect from PBS, it is essentially bashing the Republican Party that they have made the Congress or the U.S. government inoperable, which is also kind of by design, but okay, whatever.
But what he brings up is how amazing it is that without any movement from Congress, we took over Libya, we have terrorists funded by us going into Syria, the president can kill people, including Americans, with drone strikes.
It's an interesting essay, and Moyers had him on and had him explain this concept of deep state, and I wanted to play two clips from this interview.
Talk a little bit more about the nexus, the connection between the national security state and Wall Street.
Because this is a theme that runs through your essay.
Do you know that about 30 blocks north of here, there is a restaurant that will sell you a truffle for $95,000?
This sounds like Bill Gates, by the way.
Well, it sounds like Bill Gates and Charlie Rose, actually.
If you listen to this, it's almost like...
Tell me about the sexuality.
It's in your DNA. And I've cut out a lot of pauses from this guy, by the way, because he was a little annoying on that.
Christy's sold at auction a painting by Francis Bacon for $142.
He's also a little bit of a Berkeley hummer.
If you notice, a painting.
A million.
Now, a parallel situation with the national security state.
The NSA spent $1.7 billion to build a facility in Utah that will collect one yottabyte of information.
This is new for me, by the way, the concept of a yottabyte.
Have you heard of the Yatabite?
Yeah, I have.
I have heard of the Yatabite.
That's as much information as has ever been written in the history of the world.
It costs $400 by the time the Pentagon finishes paying contractors to haul one gallon of gasoline into Afghanistan.
He's completely the male version of Jill Abramson of the New York Times.
I like what he's saying here.
That's a real extravagant amount of money.
In both cases of the national security state and the corporate state, they are sucking money out of the economy as our infrastructure collapses.
We have a tinker toy power grid that goes out every time there's inclement weather.
That's a great one, by the way.
Tinker toy power grid.
Tens of millions of people are on food stamps.
Woohoo!
We incarcerate more people than China, an authoritarian state with four times our population.
Does anyone see the disparity between this extravagance For the deep state and the penury that is being forced on the rest of the country.
That isn't a natural evolution.
Something made it happen.
We're having a situation where the deep state is essentially out of control.
It's unconstrained.
Since 9-11, We have built the equivalent of three pentagons around the D.C. metropolitan area Holding defense contractors, intelligence contractors, and government civilians involved in the military-industrial complex.
There are over 400,000 contractors, private citizens, who have top secret security clearances.
I thought that was a nice little...
Overview of the deep state of the craziness.
Yeah.
And then he did something which was close to my heart.
And he showed how Silicon Valley is completely complicit.
Talk a little bit about what you call this strange relationship.
You know, I got to do that again.
I got to play those back to back because he and Charlie Rose are just as creepy.
Tell me about this sexuality.
It's in your DNA. Talk a little bit about what you call this strange relationship between Silicon Valley and the government.
And this is important because Silicon Valley, and in particular Apple with this go-to fail, gets such a pass from the press.
It's disgusting.
How it fits into the deep state.
Well, the National Security Agency could not do what it does.
The CIA could not do what it does without Silicon Valley.
Now, Silicon Valley, unlike the defense contractors, mostly sells to private individuals and to companies.
It's not a big government vendor.
However, its services are necessary And de facto, they have become a part of the NSA's operations.
I'm sure the CEOs of some of these companies try to obscure the fact that this has mostly been voluntary for many years.
You mean the surveillance?
The surveillance.
The gathering of information of unknowing citizens.
Absolutely.
For commercial purposes, though.
Precisely.
They've done it themselves, and they've assisted the NSA through a FISA court order.
Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
So this has been going on for quite a while, yet now, like Inspector Raynaud, they are shocked, shocked to find out.
But I think their main shock is that they're now starting to lose market share in foreign countries.
Yeah.
Oh, good on him.
At least some honesty on that PBS station.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, the real concern everyone really has, though, is the money loss.
That's all anyone else.
Who cares?
We'll get users from somewhere else.
It's all about users.
Eyeballs.
Eyeballs and users.
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I'm going to show myself a little by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fun.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
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All right.
Let's see what we got here.
Is the club open again, John?
You know, I forgot about the club.
And the reason I forgot is because I got a delay notice from the contractors.
These guys cannot do anything on time.
So no club today.
Sorry.
I think it's going to be done by Friday night.
That's what I'm told.
So you're telling me the club will be open Sunday?
It better be.
We're starting to lose money on this club.
Yeah, if we don't have any...
We need to serve up some table bottle service.
We've got to get things moving.
I know.
I've got a couple people here today that are supposed to be called up, but they'll be called up on Sunday.
Eon Gar at Eon.
I say Eon all the time.
I would recommend trying Eon.
Ian Garling in Port Angeles, Washington, 11380.
I hope this is the time of THX 1138 donation.
11-11380.
Yeah, THX. In honor of my big shista, Dame Elise Garling Jewelry.
Turn 33, the magic number, on Wednesday, the 26th.
He wants a constitutional law of chemtrails, and we've got to put Dame Elise on the birthday list.
Oh, my goodness.
Yes, we definitely have to do that.
He's a constitutional liar!
We wanted to...
There we go.
All right.
Hold on.
Roll out her karma.
We...
Yeah.
We don't...
A lot of people don't realize that's you.
Yes, that is me.
Yes.
That's you doing...
What's her name?
Eleanor from...
Ellen.
Helen Ellen.
Sir Thomas Nussbaum.
Nussbaum, yes.
Nussbaum in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
111-11.
He's got a couple of...
He's got St.
Nicole, your friend, and Citizen X, who we both know.
Report to Adam, Mickey, and...
Sir Nussbaum in room 42.
Oh.
Yeah, I'll make a note of that.
All right.
Oh, this is...
Well, he's making it rain, so it's a champagne room call.
Yeah, I guess that's what it means.
Makes sense.
Champagne room 42.
Rob Van Dyke in Herpin.
Yeah.
Holland, 1111.
He wants a pension Bob from Aus.
Call my girl Patricia to the stage.
She can use the exercise.
What is that supposed to mean?
Wow.
Wow.
Nice.
I do have a note.
Let me go get it.
Yeah, you've got to be getting these notes, man, because people get pissed off when you don't read the note.
I don't normally get pissed off no matter what.
This is a good note.
This is from Donald Silva who gave $100.
He's in Hawaii living it up.
I want to thank you, John, for the excellent recommendation of the Kindle Paperwhite Reader.
Ha!
I would have never thought of getting it as I already own an iPad.
When you said you could run through books with ease, not exactly what you said, I thought that's for me.
And I'm glad I got it.
I prefer reading on the paperwhite to the iPad.
I'm reading a lot more now instead of watching Netflix.
Yay!
Thank you for an excellent education on the news media and its deconstruction.
To do this twice weekly is truly a marvelous commitment to the show and to your audience.
Mahalo.
So that was worth reading.
Let's get through these names and we'll give our knighthoods and birthdays out.
Jamie Graham in Norwalk, Connecticut.
And she does say she loves...
This is a donation, by the way, $80...
I have to read this one.
Because donating is better than leaving a note and candy in his car while he's at work, I love my P, P-E-A, which is apparently her little name for her friend.
That is better than that.
I agree.
Yeah.
You know, the candy gets all melted.
Yeah, or worse.
Dogs eat it.
$77.47 in San Jose, California from Sir J.D. We read a note from him earlier.
Frank Pugh in Tallahassee, Florida, $75.
Alejandro Vasquez in Denver, Colorado, $75.
Jason Anderson in Riverside, California, $75.
Michael Bob.
$69!
$69, dudes!
Again, we have the same two, two, two people.
Only two.
Michael Bowling in Galita, California, and Charles Waltern in Schaumburg, Illinois.
It says Schaumburg here for some reason.
Vincent Welthuizen in Groningen.
Welthuizen in Groningen.
That's north of Holland.
There's been so much fracking, they have earthquakes every day.
Is that right?
In Holland, yes.
They're having earthquakes in Holland?
That must be a thrill.
Google earthquake north of Holland.
It's two or three on the scale.
Houses are falling apart.
Yeah, those houses are not built for earthquake country.
But those little shakers, by the way, they don't, you know, especially in California, we don't even notice them.
But our houses are specifically built for earthquakes, and they're built of wood in a certain construction style that's for earthquakes.
So your house will shake, rattle, and roll, but those houses are solid.
Yeah, it sways a little more is what it does.
Yeah, it sways a lot.
Yeah, it sways, yeah.
But those houses in Europe are hard.
They're hard.
They're solid things.
And just shaking them a little bit starts to make them crack.
Yeah.
So this is a very big problem.
Very, very big.
Interesting.
Scott Olson, $66 in San Diego, California.
Janet Houghton in McMinnville, Oregon.
Kulo Town, $60.
Frederick Leaders in Ontario, Oregon.
Robert is $60.
$60.
Also, our friend Robert Mueller.
Not the one.
This is the one in Chesapeake, Virginia.
Although, you'd think the other Bob Mueller...
Probably lives around there, in the neighborhood.
No, he's a different guy.
Nicholas Killam in Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada.
Double nickels on the dime.
Bruno Rodriguez in Sao Paulo, Brazil.
$55.
And he...
He sent a really long, interesting note.
He says, media in Brazil is going, this is a summary, is going for theories against Venezuela, North Korea, and Russia, as they always do, and you're one of the only sources I can find that sheds some light on the other side of the arguments.
Give him the good work.
Good.
Gave us a lot of background on Brazil.
Always appreciated.
Marta Callistrom in Portland, Oregon, $51.
And these are all Sir Kevin Payne in Richmond, Virginia, $50.69.
The rest of these are $50, each from Sir Mark Fusco in San Antonio, Texas.
Fusco.
Fusco.
I call him Fusco because Fusco is the guy in person.
He needs additional donation for some interview karma this Thursday.
Sommelier night of the Noah Ginter Roundtable.
We do break for nights.
We do give them karma when requested.
You've got karma.
Just had to do it.
Thomas Imbrechts, I think, in Namor, Namor, Belgium.
Not sure.
Ryan Curley in Loeboro, Leicester, Leicester, Leicestershire, right?
Leicestershire, Leicestershire, Leicestershire.
Yeah, UK. Peter Totes, Parts Unknown, Shad Rich, Seattle, Washington.
Marcus...
Kazmarik.
Kazmarik.
Kazmarik in Kanai, Alaska.
James Boncheck in Plains, Pennsylvania.
And finally, last but not least, Anders Edqvist in Sweden somewhere.
Huggerson?
I got a percent sign or something weird.
Yeah, I got a percent sign too.
If I'd seen it coming in, I'd remember.
I also wanted to, because you sent this to me, so I figure that means you wanted me to mention it.
This is from Nicholas, who gave us double nickels on the dime.
Yeah, I think it's readable.
It's been almost two years since my first confession, so here are my dues, good sirs.
I feel no agendas permanently change me and my outlook on almost everything.
Might be dangerous, but I don't think this is a bad thing at all.
Over these two years, I have seen some no agenda theories play out almost to their completion.
The Swochi anti-gay propaganda, for one, how it controls and manipulates people.
As someone who is gay, I have seen this firsthand.
The six-week cycle is also uncanny.
Although we don't cover Canada much, there have been things that are happening here recently.
Anyway, that before no agenda, I wouldn't question or even pay attention to.
It's one thing to suspect or even read about it, but to see it happen before your eyes is something else entirely.
It's almost surreal.
I almost don't want to acknowledge it, but as a rational person, I see no other alternative.
And so he thanks us for our courage and our karma.
This is an educational comedy show.
Yes.
We give you the tools you need to get through without getting buffaloed and ending up in the freight train to Auschwitz.
We give you the tools to make people laugh at work or at church or at temple.
Or get mad at you.
Yeah.
Which they do.
So that's our group today.
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Sundays have been light.
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We don't always have just the time in the show to read everything above $50, but everything above $50 is what we present.
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The more people we have at the roundtable, I know, you didn't call me sir.
I'm sorry, I was reading legislation.
All right.
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All righty, Dave, Denise Garling.
Luckily, we found out that she turned 33.
Magic number yesterday.
Happy birthday.
Thanks for all the love that you've been giving us throughout the years.
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Happy birthday from your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe.
It's your birthday, yeah.
And then we do indeed have one nighting today.
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And I'm going to ask you, because last time you got pissed, do you have your sword?
Well, yeah, because last time you used two swords and you did me out.
Is that your sword that I just heard?
Yeah, what do you think?
I don't know.
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Yes.
I have three clips I'd like to play.
Three.
It's a three-peat.
Well, they're all short.
Okay.
One is particularly short, but the first one is this bilateral security agreement clip, which is bilateral security agreement.
This is from France Van Katte, and they describe, at least I clipped it as short as I can, what's really what this security agreement's about.
We don't talk much about it, but essentially it is to make sure that when we're in Afghanistan, and by the way, they're not going to sign off on this thing.
They're hoping, now we're hoping as the Americans, we're hoping that the next guy after Karzai's out gets in and he'll sign off on it.
But it's essentially to turn us into the British redcoats of the 1700s.
Or all U.S. forces could pull out, leaving Afghan soldiers on their own.
Washington would rather keep troops on the ground but only if Afghanistan signs the bilateral security agreement.
According to the deal, if American troops stay in Afghanistan, local courts would not prosecute them.
The deal says that U.S. troops could lead anti-terrorist raids in Afghan homes once they've informed Afghan authorities.
So, essentially, busting into places and all the rest, and we were completely not liable for anything.
Somebody shoot people, nobody cares.
Do you know that Karzai had Wang Yi visit?
Oh, good.
Yeah, the Chinas are moving into Afghanistan.
Oh, yeah, well, they've been sitting, they've been on a perch just waiting.
They've been smart about it.
They do exactly the opposite of what we do to them in Africa.
In fact, that's the model the Chinese have adopted.
Years ago, when I first heard about Huawei, the big Chinese router company that competes with Cisco, their approach, according to a guy that worked there, was they would follow around like a...
An Ericsson guy, like in Europe, this is what they did.
And they'd do the same thing here, but they didn't get, you know, we'd kick them out, so they don't do it as much.
But they would follow Ericsson guys who would come with these big switches for phone companies or whatever.
They're multi, multi-million dollar systems.
And they would just wait until the Ericsson guys leave, and they'd go in, and the deal was whatever Ericsson bid were 15% lower.
Yeah.
And that was the model, and they've done very well for themselves.
Anyways, nobody's talking about the BSA in any great detail about how they, you know, essentially can do whatever they want while they're over there.
But Pisaki had a little mention here.
It says, Pisaki on BSA is this clip, and she never really says much about anything except we're going to get this done somehow, but I got something else out of it.
And Psaki is the spokeshole for the State Department.
Right.
We're not going to leave this in the hands of President Karzai to sign and that there is the option of having a successor sign.
So that is certainly a new piece of information that we have not indicated in the past.
In addition, in terms of consequences, what we have indicated is that the later it goes, the harder it is to plan, and also the smaller it will be.
All right, so I'm thinking, I finally decided I'm going to start deconstructing her stuff a little more.
This next clip is the deconstruction.
She has nothing but sexual innuendo in her cute little way about her.
You know, hands in cars.
What's his hands doing?
And so I pulled this out, which right word for word from the other thing.
Tell me there's not innuendo in this.
The later it goes, the harder it is, but also the smaller it will be.
That's what she said.
Ayo.
Yeah, no.
Well, just look at her.
She's a sex pod.
I think all those women there, including Noodleman, I think they're all sexual deviants.
Well, the other one that comes in once in a while, the backup girl, Harf.
Yeah, the band camp girl.
Yeah, the band camp girl.
She's obviously up to something.
Yeah.
I'm on board with this thesis.
I think the whole State Department.
Could be a bunch of sex maniacs.
There was...
I've got two longer things.
This one has to do with Sandy Hook, which, of course, there's a lot going on.
Every single time something pops up about Sandy Hook, we are always blown away by how nutty it is.
They tore down the school.
Everything is wrong about this whole thing.
You're about to hear a clip from the Connecticut Freedom of Information Commission, and this is literally taken from one of those committee meetings that's on public access cable.
Can I stop you for a second?
I want to mention to the listeners out there that we are the only podcast that I know of, or broadcaster of any sort, that actually played the 911 tapes.
Right.
Nobody would play these tapes.
The tapes had absolutely nothing on them.
And it was by playing them that you realize that something was wrong with this picture because everyone wouldn't play the tapes.
Why?
Anyway, go on.
So, first thing I'll do is I'll read a little bit from the Hartford Courant.
A state task force that spent months studying how to best balance victims' privacy and the public's right to know, on Friday proposed new limits on what records must be disclosed to the public under Connecticut's Freedom of Information Act.
And in a 15-2 vote Friday, the panel approved four recommendations, the most significant of which would restrict public access to crime scene media, including recordings of 911 calls, dispatch tapes, and photos or videos depicting homicide victims.
Members of the public could view the media and obtain transcripts of recordings but would be prevented from obtaining a copy The closing of this report, the two members of the panel who voted against the report were Colleen Murphy, Executive Director of the Freedom of Information Commission, and the veteran newspaper editor, James Smith.
And they're all on this panel.
And the whole thing is about 15 minutes.
I only clipped about a minute 15 from it.
It's the most pertinent.
Because what happened is, and I think I have to tell you up front in case you can't really follow along too well because the audio is a little crappy.
They are ready to vote on this document.
And this woman, Colleen, says, yeah, hold on a second, but we never discussed or voted on these four points, which basically say if anyone within the legislature, within Connecticut, does copy something – well, she doesn't say Sandy Hook, but does copy anything under Freedom of Information Act that is now – is not allowed – It is a Class D felony and you will go to jail for five years.
She said, we never discussed this.
And this was slipped in and she catches it and they wind up railroading it through, obviously.
I frankly don't recall any discussion on any of those items.
There were some documents, but no one here in this room discussed any of those items that Colleen is referencing.
We did not, for example, discuss that it would be a crime to copy a document.
It was never discussed.
I think it was.
I don't know, I don't recall Specifically voting individually on each of these eight.
I think we voted overall.
But I certainly remember conversation about each of those items.
Let's take a look at the minutes.
Barbara, can you look at the minutes from that meeting?
Or do you still have the floor?
I would argue that...
Well, I would state that that's precisely my issue.
The discussion about a Class D felony...
It was in the legislative language that was proposed, not in the concepts that were voted upon.
If that had been discussed, I certainly would have had a lot to say about whether a Class D felony for that type of violation of law would be appropriate.
So anyway, that's the heart of my objection.
I think that in Recommendation 2, we've gone a little bit...
Not a little bit, quite a bit further from the concepts that were voted upon.
So this is the executive director who's saying, this was not in the minutes.
You slipped this in.
We never voted on it.
And if you watch the whole video, they go on to say, okay, well, you can make an amendment.
And she says, I want to amend that these be taken out.
And of course, everyone else is like, no, we're voting on it.
It's all good.
So effectively, anything Sandy Hook related is locked up.
It's done.
Can't get it anymore.
Under penalty of five years in jail if anyone inside the Connecticut system were to copy that and give it to anybody.
Well, I think Sandy Hook has been so debunked by...
So many people at so many levels, I mean, many of these deconstructions go way beyond what we did, that it's academic at this point.
And now, I mean, yeah, there won't be that book.
I guess this is probably just to stop the book writer.
Yeah.
From, you know, because he's always at some, you know, five years down the road, there's some book that blows the lid off the whole thing, and that's not going to happen.
It's just going to be forgotten, completely swept under the carpet.
So there was a big argument in New York, New York State, this week.
Oh, but wait a minute.
By the way, back to the Sandy Hook thing.
But what it did do, it set up Connecticut, I think, to become a nexus for these sorts of things.
Because now you're, anybody that dreams of some conspiracy, you are good to go.
Yes, Connecticut is your state.
Exactly.
So we'll see more action in Connecticut.
You want to kill some kids?
Connecticut's your state.
Yes, over the next two years as we do the show, we're going to spot Connecticut at least once or twice more.
Would you please put that in the book?
Yes, I will.
I think that's book-worthy, and I think they should change their license plate to Connecticut.
Anything goes when you want to kill someone, State.
Will that fit on the license plate?
Big argument, big fracas in New York.
Very interesting because for once it's not right-wing, crazy, religious, nut-job, gay-hating Republicans, but actually left-wing school system officials who are very upset about Common Core.
We haven't really discussed much about Common Core recently.
That's why you're going to get an extra double dose today.
And this is, in particular, the woman in charge of the New York Public Schools in upstate New York does not want the Common Core data to be given to the nonprofit corporation in Bloom.
Now, In Bloom is a...
In Bloom?
In Bloom.
Yeah, we've discussed In Bloom.
In Bloom is the Bill and Melinda Gates funded non-profit.
Which we'll have, if you go to inbloom.org, inbloom.com.
Org.
Org, yeah.
You'll see what they're basically planning on doing.
And the whole idea is the data goes in and then third-party application developers can get a seal of approval and can then slice and dice the data and give this fantastic...
Information about your children to, well, of course, the idea is to give it to other educators and the parents, but we know kind of what's going to happen.
Well, also, some of it's got to go to the oversight committee and the steering committee of the CCA. Of course.
The Corrections Corporation of America, which is also partially owned by Gates.
Now, here's the disturbing thing about InBloom.
InBloom, they have a, of course, they're non-profit, so they have to file a Form 990.
I love looking at Form 990.
Anyone can do this.
And I pulled their 2012 990.
2013 is not due yet.
In 2012, they had zero income.
So this is basically a startup.
It's a new company.
We have no financial data.
Nothing has been officially released.
They have released nothing on their website other than that they're funded by Bill and Melinda Gates.
And they also don't show up for the conversation.
Instead, when NPR, and this is where I was alerted to this, wanted to have a debate, they got a spokeshole from the Data Quality Campaign, which you can find at dataqualitycampaign.org.
Another non-profit funded by Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
And a professional lobbyist type outfit.
Their entire reason for existence is to protect in bloom.
And if you look at the board of directors, which is always my favorite thing to do, We have Rob McKenna.
He's the chairman.
He's from a law firm, Oreck, Harrington& Sutcliffe.
We have John Bailey.
He's from Dutco Worldwide, a huge lobbying firm.
Lead Edge Capital, Paul D. Bell.
I mean, it's just all elitist crap holes who are on this another Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation nonprofit.
So it's just layers and layers and layers of people protecting this scam.
I wanted to play, although it's a little long, I wanted to play a bit of this debate between the lady from the schools who really doesn't want this to happen and the data quality campaign woman so you can get an understanding of the argument. I wanted to play a bit of this debate between And then we're going to hear an educator talk about really, and this was mind-blowing when I saw this video of hers, about what is really going on with this Common Core and the data and the...
the computerized testing.
Amy Rogstad-Gadera, I imagine you disagree with some of the sentiments there.
And I want you to make the case for us, first of all, of why we need to be collecting and sharing the data of kids.
And by the way, Amy, what's her name?
Gadekstad-Gashnadi.
If you look at the...
DataQualityCampaign.org, you'll see there's an actual menu item, which is Amy's Desk, the source for the latest in education policy and data, from Executive Director Amy Rogstad-Guadera.
So it's Amy's Desk.
Sure.
So I'm an unabashed advocate, and we all are at the Data Quality Campaign, for changing the use of data in education.
We believe that data is the great equalizer.
And, you know, the truth is we've always had data in education, but we've never used it to really change conversations, change actions and to change outcomes.
And we're now on the cusp and it's starting to happen around the country where we're starting to see where educators and families are having access to quality, actionable information.
And as a result, it's changing the teaching and learning process.
It's providing greater transparency about what's going on.
It allows us to have richer conversations about accountability.
Whenever someone says a richer conversation about anything, the hair on the back of my neck stands up.
This is complete doublespeak, gobbledygook bullshit.
And most importantly, it's empowering individuals to make great decisions for their own kids.
And I just want to reinforce, this is about more than anything, empowering parents with actionable information about their own kids.
Actionable!
Now, you as a homeschooling parent, John, how do you view the idea of, I'm quoting from their website, prioritizing student data privacy in the cloud and beyond?
Does that sound good to you?
Does this sound like this will be something good that the child will actually benefit from this?
Never, ever had before.
Well, give me an example of that, of how exactly this data could be used to help parents and their kids.
Okay.
I'm all ears.
John, you've taught your children at home.
They've all gone on to be Ivy Leaguers.
Yeah, you do that by letting them read the classics, teaching them from neutral sources, letting them think for themselves.
Did you give them a Kindle Paperwhite and then track their progress, how fast they were reading and what words?
Who cares?
Why would anybody care about that?
If you want somebody to finish a book...
Were you not interested in actionable...
Did you not want actionable data to have a deeper, richer conversation?
I have no desire to do anything, actually.
Here we go.
Well, number one, I'm a mom, and the number one question I want to ask my teachers, and I ask them constantly, you know, in my teacher conferences, but every time I have a chance to talk to them, how is my kid doing?
Is my kid on track to be ready for this knowledge economy that they're going to be going out into?
And how do I know?
And rather than in the past where teachers would say, trust us, we're doing the right thing, everything's going to be okay...
I actually really enjoyed that process of interacting with the teacher, and the teacher never said, trust us.
I've never heard a teacher say, trust us, everything's fine, nothing to see here.
No, quite the opposite.
Mr.
Curry, your kid's a little distracted.
It's a little annoying sometimes, but I like the spunk.
You know, she needs a little work on this or that, and maybe it can help.
I've never heard, trust us.
They now can provide me data showing how's my kid doing, not just compared to other kids in her classroom, but also in the school.
But also, we're now able to get this actionable information that shows...
Actionable.
Because we do have this ability to look and know that if a kid is scoring at this point in third grade, you know, for a real data point, we know if kids aren't reading on grade level by third grade, the chances of them graduating from high school are diminishing.
And so that's real data that we can tell parents that we need to get your kid reading on grade level by third grade or we know that the results aren't going to be great.
That is the stupidest argument I've ever heard.
Your kid might not graduate because he's not at a third grade reading level.
And we can't figure this out without actionable data in the cloud, lady?
No.
And while that may be scary, as the superintendent just talked about being profiling, we think it's much more empowering when you start thinking about that power of data.
Did you say these same buzzwords, empowering, and all this crap from Silicon Valley over and over?
Yes, and I'm glad you're picking up on it.
Put into the hands of families so that they know how they can be the best advocate for their child.
And when teachers are given that information and given the training to know how to use it, it empowers them to not just teach the whole class in a cohort, but to really focus the teaching process on individual needs and to make sure that every kid is getting what they need and are ready to be prepared and to live up to their potential.
Ready to be prepared.
To live up to their potential.
That's kind of a redundant comment.
Are you ready to be prepared or are you just ready?
And it's ready to be prepared to live up to your potential.
Ready to be prepared to live up to you.
Which means, what does that mean?
It means nothing.
No.
And so that goes on for hours.
Now, what you are about to hear is the others, and this is really, this was mind-boggling.
This is Peg Luxik.
And she's a troublemaker.
I'll be the first.
I've got to point that out right off the bat.
Politician.
Constitution Party.
Pennsylvania.
Troublemaker.
Constitution Party.
She's a troublemaker.
That's a troublemaker.
She's a troublemaker.
However...
What's your name again?
Peg Luxik.
Lima Uniform Kilo Sierra India Kilo.
Don't spend any time on her.
Listen to what she's saying.
She says this whole Common Core thing...
With the data in the cloud is about computer adaptive testing.
Are you familiar with the concept?
No, but I can make sense of it by just the name of it.
Okay, so to set this up, remember, your kid is doing stuff, the test, all the educational materials, but also the testing is coming from the cloud into the kid's iPad or tablet or laptop or whatever it is, and the kid is answering, so it's completely two-way interactive.
However, as she's about to point out, this has been going on for a long time with pencil and paper, The idea that the test is not just a test for the topic at hand, i.e.
comprehensive reading, But it can also change on the fly so that it turns into an actual slave training mechanism.
Computer adaptive testing, I give you Peg Luxik.
The problem isn't that it's self-paced.
The problem is that the test is open to manipulation.
So if I want it to look like the students are doing poorly, I can adapt it to make the test harder.
If I want it to look like the students are doing well, It can be adapted to make the test easier.
And you as parents or taxpayers or policy setters will never know which way the test was adapted because it's an internal mechanism.
So it is not a valid assessment.
And that is the fundamental problem with it, is that the test is being manipulated as it's being taken.
In other cases, when you're not in math but you're in some of the more history or Other areas where it's more philosophy driven, you have to comply before you can move on.
So the child is put in a position of you must agree.
I don't agree with the global warming.
No, but you have to.
Because the test won't let you move on unless you comply.
So when the test makers can make the test adaptive, we can make it easier, we can make it harder, or we can make it so that we force compliance.
You can't take the next step unless you comply with whatever it is that's being taught or presented in the test.
So you're seeing where this is going, right?
Yeah, and you know what would be funny?
Not that any of this is funny, but I think the test should go a little further than that.
So when you answer, like, you know, is global warming good?
No, I think it's bullcrap.
The test should come back with a response, you don't say.
Oh, John, have you already heard the clip?
So even if you don't agree with it, you're going to have to write it.
You're going to have to say so.
Perhaps an example that is older will help you.
I have a long history in this movement.
This is not the first time the federal government has attempted to take over education.
So in the 1990s, that iteration was called outcome-based education and then school-to-work.
You remember that, right?
Outcome-based education?
That's probably what got you to homeschool in the first place.
And I was one of the leading national opponents then, too.
And I got involved because a woman showed me a test.
It was given in Pennsylvania.
It was called the Educational Quality Assessment.
It was originally given back in the 70s and early 80s.
And the test said citizenship.
So parents thought they were testing George Washington and the Declaration of Independence.
But when you looked at the internal documents of the test, which I did, it said we're not testing objective knowledge.
We are testing and scoring for the child's threshold for behavior change without protest.
I'm loving this.
And this really happened.
This was real.
And that was in the test.
So the sample question said, there's a group called the Midnight Marauders, and they went out at midnight and did vandalism.
I, the child, would join the group if my best friend was in the group, my mother wouldn't find out.
There was no place to say, I won't join the group.
They had to say under what conditions they would join the group.
Another sample question was, your parents just found out that they're moving to outer Mongolia.
How much time would you spend on each of the following?
Being upset, crying, arguing.
So how adaptable are you to change?
Based on the results of the EQA, districts were given curriculum packets So,
to say it was easy to track is a gross overstatement of the level of difficulty that it was to get the information but compared to a computer adaptive test much easier so hold it play it Oh, really?
Oh, that's very kind of you.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Clip of the day.
I still have a minute left of her.
No, it's okay.
When she did the thing about the behavior change without protest, that's when you won.
And what she is saying is that with Common Core Scholastic Standards, CCSS... The tests and the questions will change based upon each answer to bring you into compliance with whatever the messaging is.
And she's saying, look, it's one thing if it's paper and a pencil, but now when it's on the computer, this shit can change just immediately and there's no oversight.
None!
When we were fighting outcome-based education, I traveled.
I was in every state but Hawaii.
And in one state, I was reading the assessments, and it was a reading assessment.
And it was a story about a child who found a wallet, and there was money in the wallet, and what do you do with the money?
I'm sitting in the Department of Education, reading it in front of the Undersecretary, because they didn't want me to make a copy and take it anywhere, which was fine.
And the question was...
To the child.
If you found a wallet with money in it, would you take it?
Do you read better if you say yes?
Or do you read better if you say no?
Or were they testing a child's honesty on a state assessment with their name on it that was computerized?
That's exactly it.
But parents need to protest this crap.
Oh yeah, they should.
This is horrible.
We've said this before.
We should probably focus on it a little more with this woman being a good person.
Anyway, I was just going to get to, which is the kids...
This is like what you get in a, I think, idealistic communist dictatorship of some sort where you're trying to train the slaves, like you said.
But kids aren't really that dumb.
They will actually, amongst themselves, unless you keep them separated like you would in a prison...
They will talk about this and they'll say, what are you going to do?
I don't know.
They put me on this bad thing.
My test did this.
What is your test?
Well, my test did this.
What did you answer?
Well, I answered this.
And then they'll scam the test eventually.
Yeah, well.
And so it won't work.
This won't work.
I mean, it's horrible, but it won't work because kids aren't this stupid.
Oh, but it's skip logic.
It is, because you're getting a question, you're answering, the answer is, the next question changes based upon that answer.
A couple of rounds of this, you're going to start out thinking the test.
You're going to say, well, what if I said that?
What if I did?
They're trying to trick me.
You know, once you get a clue...
When you're seven or eight, is this what you do?
Or how about the big push from our president specifically for pre-K? We need to send the kids to the slave training before kindergarten.
By the way, kindergarten.
Child garden.
Where you grow them, you plant them, you water them with propaganda.
Right, and they're pretty pliant until they get to about the fourth grade.
Fifth grade, you start to fall apart a little bit.
You start to think for yourself.
Sixth grade, for sure.
Seventh grade, and then you're done, and now you're scheming against the system.
We're not growing kids that way anymore.
No, no, no.
Okay, where are they getting the defiant messaging from?
How do they even know?
How do they even know how to do this?
How to go against the man?
We have kids that listen to our show.
Well, thank goodness.
So we are essentially...
We're it.
It's Bill and Melinda Gates or us.
That's kind of what you're telling me.
All right, all right.
Good.
Well, I'm glad to be on the front line there.
Screw those guys.
This is corrupting our children.
This is really bad.
This woman has got to be praised.
You want to hear the last 30 seconds of her?
Yeah, I'd love this.
But because it was paper and pencil, I could find it.
What if I put that in a computer test?
And if they don't give the right answer, I can change the computer to move them in the next direction.
So computer adaptive testing is really dangerous for our children because the state can manipulate achievement data by making the test harder if they want or easier if they want.
And you won't know.
You'll just get proficient results.
Or they can use the test to test for and then influence what your child thinks and how your child thinks about a variety of topics.
And again, the parents thought that was a reading test.
They didn't know that honesty was being tested on a paper and pencil state assessment with their child's name on it.
That's now part of their record.
Wait, wait.
Here's what she doesn't get to.
Which I think is part of this.
And she should get to this.
Maybe she does some other talk.
This isn't about...
At the end of the day, figuring out how the kid thinks isn't about the kid anymore.
It's about the parents.
Oh, you know, totally.
And the parents are going to get a knock at the door because your child doesn't seem so gay-friendly as it should be.
Any number of things.
The kid doesn't think this way.
Where does your child get this idea?
Where is it coming from?
Why is your child like...
What is wrong with your child?
This child doesn't dream this stuff up by itself.
This child gets this information and feels this way because of some other source.
That must be you.
And then you start looking around the house, see what kind of books they got.
This is exactly what my ex-wife always says.
Whenever my daughter does something weird, she's like, she gets that from you.
Well, now just imagine the government being that way.
Exactly.
She gets that from you, and you get it from your father.
Yeah, it's not that funny, really.
Well, it's funny.
Not nice, yeah.
Yeah, so this view, I'm very happy that this is not only, and that's the way it was being spun.
Of course, just to back up for everybody, this Common Core was implemented through a race to the top $8 billion grant given to the National Governors Association.
And they went right ahead and got Bill and Melinda Gates and all these other suspects, typical.
Michael Dell and his wife.
Yep, they're all on board.
Because, of course, it has to be Microsoft operating system, it has to be Dell computers.
They're all in on it.
Yeah, they don't see the danger.
I'm not convinced that they're part of the real scheme.
They're just part of the money part of it.
Let's make some money.
But Bill and Melinda Gates, they are evil.
They have to be stopped.
These people have to be stopped.
Well, the fact that they bought into the California Corrections CCA, that operation, which is the privatization of, which I have some clips of.
I have it somewhere else, and I'll get them for the next show.
This is a really bad trend, these privatized jails.
But the privatized jail is the same as the privatized school.
We get charter schools.
They're being paid for by God knows who.
They're putting all this Common Core stuff in.
Take your children out.
Vote these people out.
Stop Bill and Melinda Gates.
Stop them.
These people must be stopped.
They own NPR. They own it.
Yeah, they're the ones who had the News Hour redesign its whole operation.
Yeah.
These people must be stopped.
They must be stopped.
The worst kind of suits.
And that's the worst part.
They really believe they're doing good.
They're not.
And you need to get involved with your kids.
Pull your kids out.
If there's Common Core, and it's in 47 states, if there's Common Core coming to your school, you need to revolt.
But states don't have it.
Texas says they don't have it, but they do actually.
You know, when you get into this and you start looking, because I wanted to see, you know, where's Texas?
Texas has Educate Texas.
At Educate Texas, we know that post-secondary education will jumpstart progress.
That's why we work closely with our partners to ensure that all Texas high school students, regardless of income, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And you look at who's on this and who's funding this, And it just doesn't stop.
The daisy chain of non-profits.
This also has to stop.
We have to stop non-profits.
They have to stop.
Seriously.
This is killing us.
It's killing our culture.
It's killing everything.
Wow.
Okay.
I thought you would like that.
Nothing to top that.
We have a couple of things that are kind of interesting.
Okay.
What you got?
Well, first, let's play.
This was only a course.
This was only done on Democracy Now!, which is an agenda that allows interesting little stories to come.
Oh, wait.
We can just put that off.
I do have something I forgot to mention.
We have broken the record for a drug advertisement.
Oh, no.
With disclaimers?
Two minutes.
Now that we've had these commercials before, they're usually run, you know, some of them can almost get in in a minute.
Some of them are minute 15, but minute 30 tends to be the average.
Two solid minutes.
Of disclaimer.
No, well, I mean, it starts off with a sales pitch.
It's always the same.
Sales pitch, sales pitch, then nothing but disclaimers, little sales pitch at the end.
And as we've discussed, just like putting negative messages on cigarettes, telling people heroin is bad for you, it actually encourages the human psyche to go and get some.
No, this I wouldn't get.
Victoza.
Victoza?
Victoza.
I don't see it.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Here it is.
I was thinking a different one.
Here we go.
Victoza.
Here we go.
Across America, people like Basketball Hall of Famer Dominique Wilkins are taking charge of their type 2 diabetes with non-insulin Victoza.
For a while I took a pill to lower my blood sugar, but it didn't get me to my goal.
So I asked my doctor about Victoza.
He said Victoza works differently than pills and comes in a pen.
That's 18 seconds of pitch.
I presume we're about to get the disclaimer.
Victoza's proven to lower blood sugar in A1C. It's taken once a day, anytime.
And the needle stands.
Victoza is not for weight loss, but it may help you lose some weight.
Victoza is an injectable prescription medicine that may improve blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes when used with diet and exercise.
It is not recommended as the first medication to treat diabetes and should not be used in people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis.
Victoza has not been studied with mealtime insulin.
Victoza is not insulin.
Do not take Victoza if you have a personal or family history of medullary thyroid cancer, multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if you are allergic to Victoza or any of its ingredients.
Symptoms of a serious allergic reaction may include swelling of face, lips, tongue, or throat, faking or dizziness, very rapid heartbeat, problems breathing or swallowing, severe rash or itching.
Tell your doctor if you get a lump or swelling in your neck.
Serious side effects may happen in people who take Victoza including inflammation of the pancreas, pancreatitis, which may be fatal.
Stop taking Victoza and call your doctor right away if you have signs of pancreatitis, such as severe pain that will not go away in your abdomen or from your abdomen to your back, with or without vomiting.
Tell your doctor about all the medicines you take and if you have any medical conditions.
Taking Victoza with a sulfonylurea or insulin may cause low blood sugar.
The most common side effects are nausea, diarrhea, and headache.
Some side effects can lead to dehydration, which may cause kidney problems.
If your pill isn't giving you the control you need, ask your doctor about non-insulant Victoza.
It's covered by most health plans.
Damn!
That is indeed a record.
I think so.
I don't know if that can be topped.
That may be one of those records that cannot be topped because I don't think they like running two minutes.
I was a little disappointed by the side effects, though.
I think a lump in your neck, you know, I like to wither without vomiting.
That's okay.
You die, though.
Uh-oh, uh-oh.
New theme alert on the No Agenda Show.
Yes, new meme alert on the No Agenda show.
Finally.
Are you ready for it?
Okay.
Automania.
Automania.
It's a Turkish trend.
It's called Automania.
And it is the mania, like Beatlemania, for the magnificent century for the Ottoman Empire.
Oh, Automania.
Automania.
That's right.
So here's some examples.
Certainly in Turkey, Burger King-Sultan meal combo, Ottoman cookbooks, Ottoman-style bathroom consoles, wedding invitations, Ottoman calligraphy, Ottoman-style renovation of buildings.
This is a new meme.
Curiously, the Ottoman footstool is not mentioned.
No.
But this is...
Is that actually from the Ottoman Empire?
Must be.
It's called an Ottoman.
Ottomania.
This is the trend.
Which, of course, is a throwback to what the caliph, the post of the caliph and the caliphate is all about.
Yeah, it's about bringing back the Ottoman Empire.
And if you're going to do it...
Caliphate mania.
Yeah.
Well, no.
Ottomania.
It's a great new meme.
I like it.
It could be a show title.
Ottomania.
And then final, only because we got it from our resident priest, who I think you saw the note too.
The science is in.
Hold on.
According to scientists now who have desperately been looking for a way to explain the pause in global warming for the past 15 years, Global warming hiatus caused by the volcano's cooling effect.
You can't make this shit up.
Do the volcanoes ever go away?
Stop this practice.
No, it is according to a new study.
Oh, a new study.
Published by the journal Nature Geoscience, volcanoes are the reason that average rate of warming dropped from 0.31 degrees Fahrenheit per decade between 1970 and 1998 to 0.072 degrees.
This muted surface warming...
Was the result of a series of 17 small volcanic eruptions beginning in 2000 that spewed enough aerosols into the atmosphere to explain the disparity between climate change models and actual warming trends.
So volcanoes that are basically big fire spewing zits on the earth cool the earth.
It's amazing.
It's just amazing.
They will go to...
I mean, if you're going to make something up, you might as well do something like this.
You know, I think that it's really...
It's quite genius.
So you look at the temperature data.
It's going down.
But you think, for whatever reason...
It should be going up because you're basing everything on that.
Well, that's the climate model.
And it's not going up.
It's going down.
So you spend years, probably, finding something that would explain this going down thing other than global cooling.
Right.
Exactly.
And you come up with, obviously...
Volcanoes.
Volcanoes.
All right.
I have a couple global warming clips.
Sorry, climate change.
Just to wrap it up for today.
First, here's the president talking to the governors of America.
On the West Coast, you've got Governors Brown, Inslee, Kitzhaber, who are working together to...
We've set up a task force of governors and mayors and tribal leaders to help communities prepare for what we anticipate are going to be intensifying impacts of climate change.
And we're setting up climate hubs in seven states across the country to help farmers and ranchers adapt their operations to a changing environment.
In the budget that I'll send to Congress next week, I'm going to propose fundamentally reforming the way federal governments fund wildfire suppression and prevention to make it more stable and secure.
And this is an idea that's supported by both Democrats and Republicans.
This is the economy, ladies and gentlemen.
Climate change is your economy.
There is no stopping it.
I would like to point out, by the way, that Andre Heintz, who is the stepson of Jerry Carey, Actually is a consultant for a Norwegian company that will be trading in carbon credits.
More on that on Sunday.
So that's a nice bit of native advertising his stepdad is doing there for him.
And all of this, of course, is about the messaging so that we can continue this economic change with green and everything.
And you need to do that with a messaging and CNN, CarolCNN, Brought on the guy from Yale who is in the climate change communications, and he will explain exactly who the bad people are.
John, be careful, it's us.
With me now, Dr.
Anthony Leiserowitz, the director of the Yale Project on Climate Change Communication.
His group has been studying the why question for more than a decade.
Welcome.
Thank you, Carol.
It's great to be with you.
It's nice to have you here.
So let's clear up one myth.
Do the majority of Americans deny climate change?
No, they don't.
And that's a really important point.
We find that about two-thirds of Americans believe that climate change is real.
And in fact, we see more broadly that there are six very different kinds of responses to climate change in the United States.
And so I edited this so we can skip right over the first five and get to the meat number six.
Six different Americas, if you will.
Let's talk about the very...
And then last but not least is...
Right, the dissenters, right?
That very vocal group of dissenters is the last group.
And they're the ones who deny climate change is happening.
Who are they?
That's right.
Are you ready?
Are you sitting down?
Are you laying on the chaise lounge?
So that group we call the dismissive.
The dismissive.
And these are people who are firmly convinced it's not happening, not human-caused, and not a serious problem.
And by the way, I think that that's a farce.
Climate change is happening, but to put it in the same lineup with people who don't believe it's man-made is not fair.
But okay.
And in fact, about three-quarters of this group, and it's about 15% of the public, believe that climate change is a conspiracy.
They think that it's scientists making up facts, that it's a U.N. plot to take away American sovereignty.
That is a plot by Al Gore, as we just heard Ted Cruz talk about.
Yes, he's right on all counts.
Right?
It has nothing whatsoever to do with the basic fundamental science, as you alluded to before, is that the scientific community, based upon the evidence, 97% of climate scientists agree that climate change is happening in human cause.
And yet this issue has become deeply divisive in our politics.
Well, my research also found that those very loud climate deniers are backed by lots and lots of money.
A recent study by Drexel University...
Where's our money?
Where's our money?
But listen to what she calls lots and lots of money.
...that conservative foundations and others have bankrolled climate denial to the tune of $558 million between 2003 and 2010.
Okay, so that's about $60 million a year.
That's a lot of money.
No, that's nothing.
That's a spit in the bucket compared to the billions and billions of dollars that are being given to pro-manmade global warming climate change groups.
This is nothing.
But of course, evil Koch brothers.
Who are these wealthy climate deniers?
Yeah, so there's two main camps.
One is the obvious camp, and that is the fossil fuel producers.
Obvious, obvious.
I'm sorry.
Do you have a minute, John?
I just need to go to the mailbox to pick up my check from the fossil fuel guys.
We're perfectly happy with the current energy system of coal and oil and natural gas, because they're making more money than anybody else on the planet, using and continuing to burn this old energy source.
But the other is the ideological opposition, and that's what you're talking about with these conservative think tanks.
They're deeply distrustful of climate change because they're afraid of the potential solutions.
Climate change is not something that we can all solve through our own individual voluntary behavior.
Yes, we can make a difference by turning out the lights and buying a more fuel-efficient car and saving energy.
But it's only going to be a small piece of what ultimately is going to require a national and, yes, global solution to this problem.
And that violates some of their fundamental distrust about government.
And the role of government in society.
Now, of course, when I say that your economy is based on climate change, what I really mean is gas.
Natural gas is the future.
This is the solution that is given.
Of course, it's not really a solution because it has carbon.
The real solution is nuclear.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Let's scare people about nuclear.
How about you, NBC? We'll do more on this story as the date approaches, but there's a potentially bracing prediction from a group of scientists that low levels of radioactive cesium could arrive on our Pacific coast as early as April.
Like the solid waste that is already washed up in so many places from the Pacific Northwest on South.
This too is from the Fukushima nuclear plant.
Scientists say there are no readings yet at any of their 16 tracking sites and they are not worried about radiation levels in the water when it does arrive.
However, be afraid.
I said radiation.
Fukushima, be scared.
Scared, scared, scared.
That would have gotten a clip of the day almost.
Well, now listen.
This is my last clip.
I'm done after this.
The Nuclear Energy Institute.
They've come out.
They have their 2014 Future of Energy advertising campaign.
Oy vey.
If anyone ever needed the Curry-Devorak Consulting Group, it's these guys.
This is...
I know.
These are like guys walking around a prop plane with blinders on.
Yeah.
Wow.
An aviation reference.
A nice one, too.
Yeah.
No, no.
It's worse.
It's walking around a helicopter towards the tail.
So I shall play for you their Future of Energy campaign.
Of course, I got this from AtomicInsights.com.
Otherwise, I wouldn't have even known about it.
And they're so bad.
I guess their campaign is trying to show that nuclear needs to be part of the mix, ergo trying not to, I guess not to alienate anybody or whatever it is.
But it's so bad.
One minute, here we go.
It's really, really, really crap.
I'm playing this off of the YouTube, so just give me a second while it starts here.
Oh, I'm sorry.
America's Energy Future.
I'm Leslie Dewan, Chief Scientist at Transatomic Power.
Our next generation reactors take used nuclear fuel to generate clean electricity.
Other innovators are also supporting new reactors that are safe and scalable for America's energy future.
All right.
Wrong.
Wrong.
You got some chick with stupid bangs.
Yeah, she may be a scientist, but she's got big bags under her eyes.
Shitty makeup.
No, she does.
She's a puffy eye.
You're a Ukrainian girl.
Puffy, yeah.
Thank you.
Get a hot chick.
You go, what?
Half those Ukrainian women are PhDs.
Yes, thank you very much.
She's technology innovator, is the caption on her.
Dumb.
In electricity, other innovators are also supporting new reactors that are safe and scalable for America's energy future.
I'm Dr.
Patrick Moore, a co-founder of Greenpeace and a supporter of nuclear energy.
No single energy source can satisfy our electricity needs while meeting our environmental goals.
That's why I support the expansion of low-carbon nuclear energy to...
Why are they...
See, this is where they really messed it up.
The low-carbon?
Yeah!
Why don't they just say, no carbon?
I don't get that either.
It should be no carbon if you want to even bring that part of it up.
I think that should be like a kicker.
Yeah, or just not say anything.
It's cheap.
It's damn near free.
This would solve everybody's problems.
Thank you.
Here's the messaging that should be going on.
One, we're not in 1950 anymore.
Yeah, technology has advanced.
We don't build plants like Fukushima.
We have iPhones.
We don't.
Times have changed, and this technology has not been sitting on its butt.
I've always liked to equate that to, for example, Intel and their processor chips.
They don't sell as many as they'd like to anymore, and things have changed.
But they do not stop walking to the drumbeat of Moore's Law.
The chips made today are not the same as the chips made three years ago, let alone 20 years ago.
Right.
So things have changed drastically.
They should be promoting that.
In fact, first of all, the music has to go.
Who made that?
Did someone do a deal?
The drug company.
The music has to go.
And then, you know, literally, hey, this is not your daddy's nuclear plant.
Remember when we had answering machines?
That's where Fukushima's from.
Today we've got iPhones.
We've got high-tech.
We've got new nuclear reactors, thorium breeders.
This is good.
Look at this hot chick.
It's going to save these kittens.
That's the kind of stuff we want, people.
Generate our electricity.
I'm Mark Furbeck.
I oversee the training of nuclear reactor operators here at Georgia Power.
And then they put the guy from Georgia Power in a nuclear operator who looks...
He looks like he belongs in the Adams family.
The guy's creepy!
I'm one of 5,000 workers building the future of nuclear energy at one of the largest economic development projects in the country.
Nuclear plant construction is creating jobs and growing local economies...
Confusing the message!
...around the world.
I'm Vicki Bailey, an energy entrepreneur with 20 years of leadership in government and industry.
Not trustworthy.
For America's energy future, we need a diversified electricity portfolio.
People at home who vote don't care about a diversified energy portfolio.
No, they care about cheap, no carbon, futuristic stuff.
I've always thought if you put a debate on, like a conservative versus a liberal, and you're the guy that is promoting the liberal agenda, you put the debate on with a really smart guy from your community, and then you find some screwy, crackpot idiot to do the debate on the other side.
Right, of course.
Now, is there any possibility that all this is misdirection?
These are designed to fail, and that Georgia plant which they're building, which cost a fortune and is huge and kind of old-fashioned, but it's not as bad as, you know, the Fukushima plants, this thing is going to run into delays, cost overruns, it's going to become a disaster, and they're going to point the finger at it saying, look at all the overruns.
20 times more than we thought it was going to cost.
Oh my God, this is the worst technology ever.
They're going to try to turn it on.
It's going to crap out.
Wow.
You know, now I feel a little dumb because I didn't do the research into the Nuclear Energy Institute.
I am totally buying in that this has been set up to fail.
Good point.
Red herring.
And I'm looking at this.
Let's take a look at this place.
Issues.
Who is this?
News and media.
Who are these?
Who runs this thing?
Nuclear energy.
Of course, it's got to be an NGO or something.
Nuclear Energy Institute.
Let me guess.
Non-profit?
While that's loading.
Oh, here it is.
Nuclear Industry Lobbying Group.
Really?
This is the lobbying group?
So it is non-profit then.
But this is your lobby?
This is what you came up with?
How about getting someone from Hollywood?
You know?
Get a Clooney type person.
You can get anybody.
There's a million people who will do anything for money.
And this is the best you can do?
With renewables, nuclear energy, coal, and natural gas.
America is developing innovative new technologies to expand the use of nuclear energy, renewables, and other sources of low-carbon electricity.
Why are they promoting natural gas when they're trying to sell nuclear?
I know!
They're coal!
They're promoting the whole thing!
This is another trick.
You do association.
So you're condemned by association.
You throw the natural gas in there.
Sure, that's fine.
But they throw in the coal.
Unbelievable.
So we're like coal.
Unbelievable.
Let's roll it back.
You're nothing like coal.
And also, instead of saying, we have new technology, like, we're developing new technology.
And they show, you know what they always show?
That's like that stock footage of Ethernet cables with blinking lights.
Yeah, that's really convincingly, ladies.
Clear energy, coal, and natural gas.
America is developing innovative new technologies to expand the use of nuclear energy, renewables, and other sources of low-carbon electricity, providing energy security for future generations.
Nuclear.
Clean air energy.
Ugh.
It is so bad.
I'm Leslie Dewan, Chief Scientist at Transatomic Power.
Go away, go away.
Transatomic Power.
NEI is governed by a 47-member board of directors.
Man, we really got to figure out who's running this thing.
I bet you Sir Atomic Rod Adams will know.
But these guys are up to no good.
Okay, they've hired the Potomac Communications Group.
I would fire the Potomac Communications Group if I were you.
I'd be using WPP right off the top.
Yeah, get the real guys in there.
The problem is they don't have as much money.
That's the problem.
How could they not have any money?
General Electric builds these things.
I don't think they're a part of it.
I think General Electric just wants the gas turbines.
Those go out after a while.
They need to build new ones.
This whole...
I hadn't thought of that angle.
Very good on you in there.
Knowledge Center.
This looks shit.
FAQ. These people are no good.
They're never going to help.
No, they're not helping.
They're not designed to help.
They really aren't, are they?
No, when you see fails like that, you have to assume it's done on purpose.
Unbelievable.
Or done by a high school kid.
One of the two.
Screw it.
We're not going to change that.
However, we can bring you your healthy news diet and we'll do it again on Sunday.
I'm sure we'll have more Common Core as people are awakened once again about this.
Talk a little bit about genetically modified crops in Europe.
Nice.
Alright.
They're supposed to be all against it.
They're all for it.
And then we also have to talk about this Boston Magazine article about the Boston Bombers and their link to the triple murder and this girl who's been reporting on all of it who was a friend of one of the killed guys.
It's very, very deep.
Very strange.
Link in the show notes so you can brush up on that and be ready for the show on Sunday.
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