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	Straight from Reseda, here she is, Raven!
	Give it up!
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, October 20th, 2013.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 558.
	This is No Agenda.
	From the Travis Heights hideout in the capital of the Drone Star State, Austin Tejas.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm actually fogged in, I'm John C. Devorak.
	Hey, hey.
	Climate change.
	I cannot see across the street.
	Really?
	Mm-hmm.
	Wow.
	Is that typical for this time of year?
	I can't remember.
	It comes and goes.
	There'll be years where you don't even have this thick of fog ever.
	Right.
	But you haven't.
	It's actually more traditional.
	And it's really the San Francisco fog that rolls in over the hills.
	And I remember living in San Francisco.
	Well, this is the massive fog that doesn't really roll in.
	It just barrels in and takes over the place.
	It's not that cool fog that you go, oh, that's pretty.
	Let me take a picture.
	Yeah.
	This is the It's Scary fog?
	No, it just comes in.
	It's just fog.
	It's just like a pile of fog.
	It's not interesting.
	I'm sorry.
	It's not pretty.
	You can't see across the street.
	It's just fog.
	You brought it up.
	It's the worst kind of fog.
	John, let me thank you for your courage.
	I would like to thank you for your courage.
	And I would like to kick off the week because, of course, didn't we learn in school that Sunday is actually the first day of the new week?
	Is that the way it works?
	According to the calendar?
	No, it's Monday.
	Now, that's the beginning of the work week.
	Isn't the beginning...
	No, why wouldn't Sunday be the first day?
	Because you go through work all week and then you have your week end.
	Which means two days of the week.
	If you look at the calendar, the Sundays are always all the way on the left and the Saturdays are all the way on the right.
	That constitutes an entire week.
	That's what it looks like on the calendar.
	But that's not the way I think the psychology of it works.
	No, no, no, no.
	Well, but it works well.
	So wait a minute.
	So on Sunday morning you wake up and go, oh, it's a glorious new week I'm beginning.
	Yes, and you know, I'm always reminded it's a glorious new week because the president has proclaimed a week.
	And this is, well, this is, it's two things this week.
	National Forest Products Week.
	Yeah, that makes nothing but sense.
	Our national forests are essential to our lasting prosperity and who we are as a people.
	Chopping them down and making products out of them.
	These natural wonders provide clean air and water for our communities and abundant habitats for wildlife, as well as building materials for our homes and jobs and recreation for workers and families across the country.
	During National Forest Products Week, we celebrate the sustainable uses of America's forests.
	Burn that shit down!
	It is also, by presidential proclamation, National Character Counts Week, John!
	Every week is Character Counts Week to me.
	What are you going to do to make your character count this week?
	I'm going to do the No Agenda show to the best of my ability.
	Let me see if this is according to the President's instructions.
	As Americans, we are bound together by a set of ideals put forth by our fathers.
	That we were all created equal.
	That we possess certain unalienable rights.
	That was inalienable.
	It is inalienable.
	You said unalienable?
	Yes, it says unalienable.
	I'm reading it right from the window.
	Spell check.
	Right here.
	Isn't that...
	Is it inalienable or unalienable?
	This doesn't feel right.
	Yeah, no, it's inalienable.
	Let me look it up.
	All right, but he says unalienable.
	Or, you know, whoever wrote the script for him.
	Well, they may run it through spellcheck.
	I am.
	Well, unalienable.
	No, I'm saying that's what happened to them.
	Yeah.
	And they said uncame up.
	Yeah.
	Inalienable is an adjective.
	It means unable to be taken away or given away.
	Well, what is unalienable?
	Well, that's another question.
	But the actual, in the Constitution it says inalienable, right?
	That's my understandable.
	Is that your understandable?
	Yeah.
	What Thomas Jefferson meant by unalienable.
	Unalienable is a word.
	But which one is it?
	The definition of unalienable.
	Well, that's a good question.
	I think you brought something up here that's quite interesting.
	I'm just seeing it myself.
	Let me see.
	So, Constitution.
	Inalienable.
	I have to look.
	I have to...
	Declaration of Independence, right?
	Now, in the Declaration, it's unalienable rights, not inalienable.
	Or is it inalienable?
	I don't know what it is now.
	It says unalienable in the Declaration of Independence.
	Is that what you got?
	Yeah.
	Unalienable.
	So he's right.
	Well, where does inalienable come in?
	I don't know.
	I don't know, but we'd better get some of it.
	Anyway, as a part of our National Character Counts Week...
	We reflect on the ways we support one another, the ways we come together and seek common ground and the lessons we teach our children about what citizenship means in the United States of America.
	So here's something you have to read.
	The definition of unalienable rights is those rights that cannot be surrendered, sold, or transferred, which was the other definition, but not according to this.
	The government, for example, or another person, some people refer to these as natural or God-given rights, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness.
	Certain inalienable rights, such as Social Security number, however, are unalienable only because the law prohibits reassigning your number.
	In contrast, inalienable rights are those rights that can only be transferred with the consent of the person possessing those rights.
	Oh, okay.
	I think this is all inconstitutional.
	Whatever the case.
	Oh, man.
	I'm glad we cleared that up.
	Yeah, yeah.
	No, I think everyone's really improved.
	Their life's been improved by this.
	Well, please enjoy your National Character Counts Week, everybody.
	I think that's a fine thing to do.
	Miss Mickey's still ill, for those of you who have been...
	Well, she should be better by now.
	Well, she's better, but not, like, up and...
	I mean, she's up.
	Actually, she got up this morning and made pancakes.
	Which I was surprised.
	Did she spit in the batter?
	I think she coughed all over it.
	So, an update for a lot of you.
	That's a gruesome thought.
	Apparently, this was not a flu, but looks more like it was West Nile.
	Could be.
	Yeah, and then you read about it.
	Because when you say to someone, how's Mickey?
	He says, it looks like she has West Nile.
	Oh!
	Oh!
	What?
	Oh, that's horrible!
	No, it's like a flu.
	It sucks, but you don't die from it.
	It's like swine flu.
	You're not going to die from it.
	Not if you're reasonably healthy and you're young.
	But when you say it, West Nile, people freak out.
	You know, that doesn't surprise me on the one hand.
	Well, no, because...
	On the other hand, why do they freak out?
	Because if they just read something, they'd realize it's just flu-like symptoms.
	Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
	People are like, it'll be 60 to 90 days before you're better again.
	It's like, what are you reading?
	And you call the doctor.
	The doctor says, well, you can come in if you want.
	No matter if it's flu or West Nile, we can't...
	It's the same thing.
	The only difference, I think, is West Nile you can track through a mosquito bite.
	That's how you get it, yeah.
	And we're pretty sure that's what happened.
	Miss Mickey walks outside, mosquitoes go, hey!
	Brunch?
	I loved jumping on her.
	She was outside a lot.
	Probably by taking an excessive amount of vitamin B that will eliminate that with the mosquitoes.
	They hate that.
	Really?
	Vitamin B? You know, a lot of the vitamin B complex.
	It stinks.
	If you smell the pill and the pill smells like brewer's yeast, that's the stuff you want.
	And then the mosquitoes apparently...
	They don't like that?
	Oh, okay.
	But it worked for me.
	Hey, another tip?
	Another life tip here.
	Another valuable tip from the No Agenda show.
	Well, while we're on that.
	So yesterday I had to go to the market by myself.
	So anyway, just to let you know, the fever has broken.
	The fever has broken.
	So Miss Mickey's, you know, she's not waking up every 10 minutes and, you know, bathed in sweat.
	So that's okay.
	But now she's a really deep cough, which is starting to come loose.
	So it'll still be a couple more days.
	So anyway, I have to go off to the market myself, and I'm really not in the mood because we've been up all night, and Mickey's been coughing, and I'm trying to be a good little candy striper and try and help her out and do everything I can.
	So it's already like 11.15, I know all the good stuff is gone, I know the eggs are going to be gone, and I walk away from the car where I parked it, and then there's two...
	They were catty-corner at the intersection there by the market.
	Two street solicitors.
	Is it catty-corner or kitty-corner?
	I always say catty-corner, but I don't know.
	I think there's another issue here we need to examine more closely.
	Stop the show!
	Let's talk about this right now.
	You keep talking, I'll look it up.
	So I don't know if it's kitty-corner or catty-corner, but I saw the other one across the street, so I knew I was going to get to perfect my answer.
	But I didn't know what they were going to ask.
	And it was the weirdest question ever.
	Usually this is, do you want to support Greenpeace or whatever?
	Oh, one of your famous liberal solicitors.
	So here was the question.
	Hey, good morning, sir.
	Do you support Planned Parenthood?
	And I found this to be such a weird question because what is the correct answer?
	I mean, if I say yes, why are you bothering me?
	If I say no, does that mean you're going to tell me I should support it?
	Am I just going to say no?
	And so what did you do, Adam?
	I said, parents suck!
	I just walked on.
	That was it?
	That was your comeback?
	I thought it kind of worked.
	Parents suck.
	No, parents suck.
	My mom was mean to me.
	Oh, that's what I should have said.
	No, because my mom was mean to me.
	I didn't say that one.
	Well, kitty-corner or catty-corners doesn't make really any difference because it's a corruption of the real word.
	Which is?
	Cater-corner.
	Oh my goodness.
	Cater-corner?
	Yeah, C-A-T-E-R. Huh.
	I learned something new.
	Yeah, this show sounds like it's already gotten off to a good start.
	Inalienable, cater-corner, the whole thing.
	Yeah, and then I'll do this one and I'll be done with it.
	This is Just Your Average Random Joe.
	Who had his own story of a solicitation avoidance tactic?
	I one-drop this story from a week ago.
	I was headed into a store after work to grab something for my wife on the way in.
	I heard a girl with a Greenpeace shirt on asking someone exiting if the person wanted to save the pandas.
	Now, I'm not great with coming up with snappy comebacks quickly and like to think things through, so I went in the store and thought up a perfect comeback!
	Something like, yes, I love saving pandas.
	Their jerky is so tasty!
	Ha ha ha!
	I made my purchase and was so excited when I got to the exit door.
	Then the Greenpeace girl came up to me and asked if I wanted to save the ocean.
	I said, uh, I hate the ocean and walked off.
	I was so mad.
	I wasn't able to use my clever comeback and had to use such a lame comeback.
	I got home.
	My wife asked if I wanted dinner and without thinking I said, no, I hate dinner.
	You gotta be careful with this solicitation avoidance tactic.
	It can creep into your life before you know it.
	Beautiful.
	Thank you for your courage on that.
	So there is a couple reports here.
	Yeah.
	I'm gonna play this clip.
	The air is bad.
	We're all going to die.
	Okay.
	The World Health Organization's classed outdoor air pollution as carcinogenic and says urban and industrial air pollutants cause lung cancer and are linked to bladder cancer.
	The International Agency for Research on Cancer is a cautious body not noted for producing reports without hard evidence.
	Outdoor air pollution is carcinogenic to humans and so we can't do very much to change the air we breathe and we're all responsible for it and so I think it's important To make the point that this really needs collective public health action to solve the problem.
	The IARC's previously classed as dangerous individual elements or compounds.
	This is the first time it's said the very air we breathe has become, in places in every country in the world, bad for our health.
	This has got to be an Agenda 21 movement.
	Can somebody show me the data on Los Angeles during its pollution era or London or any place that proves this bull crap?
	There's a different ending with the one I believe was on PBS, which is a clip, another cancer report, with a slightly different ending, which makes a little more sense.
	Okay, hold on.
	International researchers now say air pollution is a more serious cause of cancer than passive cigarette smoke.
	Cancer Agency of the World Health Organization made that declaration today.
	It's the first time it has classified air pollution in its entirety as causing cancer, even though the risk to individuals is low.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	That's the point.
	Low.
	That's...
	I saw the story.
	I didn't do anything with it because to me it was just like, ugh.
	And I'm glad you picked up on it because I guess you saw multiple reports.
	And now that I'm looking at it, this is one of those things that everyone has basically the same message.
	And that is being propagated.
	So what is behind this?
	Who did the survey, John?
	Who was that?
	I can't find out.
	Oh, no, it's the World Health Organization, but I don't know who within it.
	It's the WHO, so it's a corrupt operation.
	But I think your initial impression was correct.
	It's a ClimateGate thing.
	It's Agenda 21.
	There's a lot of Agenda 21 stuff to talk about today.
	But before that, let's play my climate clip.
	Hold on.
	It started when a snorkeler came across this 18-foot creature that's likely an example of what ancient mariners called sea serpents.
	They seem kind of sea monster-ish, and so it catches a lot of attention.
	And it's exciting for the scientists, too.
	Normally found only in the deep ocean, this oarfish was in just 15 feet of water off Catalina Island.
	Have you seen this thing?
	Yeah, isn't that great?
	Oh my god, this thing is fantastic to look at.
	Yeah, but what is the point of it?
	Oh, well, hold on.
	There's only one point.
	No, the point of the fish.
	I mean, why would a fish like this exist?
	It looks like a snack for a shark.
	There it is.
	A shark could just bite it right in half.
	Yeah, well, it lives very deep.
	I think its point is just to scare the bejesus out of us.
	That's its whole raison d'etre.
	It's a creepy fish.
	Yeah, and it's big.
	It's like, if anyone's never seen this, you should look it up on the internet.
	We got it in the show now.
	That's a trout, or a giant trout, that has got a body that just stretches forever.
	They get to be 56 feet long.
	Yeah.
	Well, the thing that I found interesting is when you see this thing, you're like, holy crap!
	But then it turns out that these things do pop up from time to time.
	In 1996, and then actually in 2010, and where is pertinent to the story, but first we'll hear some more of the, oh my god, it's crazy from the dips!
	Two days later, this bizarre-looking mammal washed ashore across the channel on Venice Beach.
	It's believed to be a rare saber-toothed stenagers beaked whale.
	A saber-toothed stenagers what?
	Usually found in much colder waters and almost unheard of in Southern California.
	It looked just like a dolphin that had been hit by a propeller.
	It's just a dolphin with a bad facelift.
	They're never seen around here, and to have something this unique wash up, which is the once in a lifetime so far experience for me was a real treat.
	Manhattan Beach surfers are used to seeing great white sharks, but not this many.
	Well, I've been seeing an abnormally high...
	It's like they went out to the beach, and this guy is so stoned.
	He's like, uh, yeah, I saw abnormally high amounts of great white sharks.
	What, huh?
	Quantity of great white sharks out here lately.
	So I figured I'd take a stand-up paddleboard out, put my GoPro camera on my head.
	Dude, I got nothing better to do, but I have a GoPro on my head.
	And see if I can get some footage.
	Did he ever.
	Holy...
	He's checking me out.
	Dude!
	Woo!
	Oh my god, right under the board.
	Oh my god.
	Oh my god.
	He's shaking like a leaf.
	So what's going on here?
	What could it be, John?
	What could be going on here?
	I don't know, Adam, what?
	Let's go get some men on the beach.
	I'd say something along the lines of global climate change.
	The temperature of ocean currents are definitely changing up a bit.
	Of course.
	The temperature's definitely changing up a bit, say our science wizards on the beach.
	I don't know.
	It sounds scary, though, especially with the Great Whites.
	I have four little kids out here, and I tell them not to go in the water.
	Are you sure?
	Did you count them?
	And now let's throw in some Jaws movie footage.
	Scarier than any shark sighting for Southern Californians is a theory about the oarfish.
	Okay, are you ready, John?
	Because here's the real answer.
	There's a Japanese legend that oarfish beached themselves to warn of an impending earthquake.
	In fact, dozens of them did just that in Japan about a year before the devastating Fukushima quake and tsunami in 2011.
	There you go.
	I never heard that story.
	Dozens of them beached themselves in Japan.
	It's not in the Wikipedia, but it is now, of course, a meme everywhere.
	In 1996, a lot of them showed up.
	That, I think, is in the book of knowledge.
	But yeah, if you look at it, 2010, you can find some stories.
	So that would be about a year before end of 2010, I think.
	Yeah, that would be a little more than a year before Fukushima.
	So, of course, you know, it can't be...
	Not at mixed messages.
	There's a commercial for the camera.
	There was...
	Is there a new Jaws movie coming out?
	Is there a new, like, a Jaws revisited or something?
	There must be.
	There's probably some movie involved, some movie hang-up in there, yeah.
	Get a lot of that.
	Let me see.
	Deepwater Part 4, Jaws Revisited.
	No, that can't be.
	Doesn't sound good.
	Doesn't sound right.
	Let me see.
	Jaws movie.
	Must be something like that.
	There's just no other way.
	Jaws 5.
	Did this already happen?
	Jaws 5?
	I never heard of Jaws.
	I don't remember Jaws 4.
	It says here, Jaws 5, official trailer, summer of 2013.
	Now, I thought maybe didn't this already come out and fail?
	I don't think so.
	Let's see.
	The trailer.
	Yes, it's the trailer.
	Lightning Entertainment.
	Can't even watch that.
	Can't even watch the trailer.
	It's that bad.
	I always like it when they throw in a climate change meme.
	That's always fun.
	Of course, it doesn't work that way.
	You can't have the oarfish coming up because it's warmer and the sharks being there.
	Sharks don't like it.
	They like cold.
	They're like cold water.
	So you can't have both showing up unless your theory, which is the sharks are hungry.
	That wasn't my theory.
	Yeah.
	It's a fact.
	They're always hungry.
	That's what they do.
	You said it looks like shark bait.
	Oh, yeah, it does.
	Doesn't it?
	Yeah.
	Because I think a whole family of sharks could feed on that one fish.
	They could all go in like in a line.
	Yeah.
	At a dinner table, and they could all take a chunk out of it.
	Just go right through it.
	It'd be great.
	Do you want to do more Agenda 21 stuff while we're on it?
	You got it.
	Yeah, well...
	You got to smoke them.
	Actually, as it turns out...
	Now, where is my...
	I had a...
	Hmm.
	I had a document here somewhere.
	I got to figure out where I put that.
	This whole war on dudes thing.
	This, you know, women and girls and women and all this stuff.
	As it turns out, this is all part of Agenda 21.
	And I didn't realize it until one of our producers maintains the Agenda 21 subreddit over there on the Reddit.
	Links in the show notes, of course, 558.nashownotes.com.
	And he alerted me to Chapter 24 of Agenda 21.
	Now, both you and I have read Agenda 21 throughout the ages.
	And it's quite a long read.
	This is one of those things you really want to...
	No, it's huge.
	I once began to print it out.
	It's something like 2,500 pages.
	And so I sent a note to the UN asking if they sell a copy.
	Cliff Notes?
	And they don't even do that.
	Get it on the web.
	And they make it so you can't even just print it out as a single giant document.
	It's segmented.
	So you have to keep hitting the next page next page.
	I mean, you have to print it out literally by hand, almost a page at a time.
	It's like impossible.
	So just briefly then, Chapter 24, Global Action for Women Towards Sustainable and Equitable Development.
	So this is really where all of this is coming from.
	And Agenda 21, it's a fascinating project by the United Nations.
	There's so many people involved in this.
	And governments, it's hard to explain how it really works, but governments essentially fund NGOs, non-governmental organizations, and they all go and they do these meetings.
	And there's several of them a year, and they're all over the world, and it's essentially people who feel that they're going to be doing good for the world, and they come up with this stuff.
	And then that trickles down and eventually, through think tanks and the whole system that is the global government, it seeps into legislation, into culture, and translates directly into money to make things happen.
	So the basis for action here, this is all based on the Nairobi forward-looking strategies for the advancement of women.
	It's like, hey, where should we do our next meeting?
	I don't know.
	Hey, I got a good...
	Let's go to Nairobi.
	Nairobi's cool.
	Let's go there.
	I've never been to Africa.
	Let's go to Nairobi.
	So these forward-looking strategies...
	If you're going to make a decision like that, do it in Cape Town.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I'm sure they did do it in Cape Town.
	So these strategies emphasize women's participation in national and international ecosystem management...
	And control of environment degradation.
	So putting women in control is the way I read that.
	So this is much less about women being discriminated against and more about making women the boss of things.
	And they don't really even sugarcoat it if you read through the document.
	Do that at your leisure.
	And so we're seeing Hillary Clinton.
	We just recently had the Watermelon Head do the whole International Day of the Girl.
	It's all about the women.
	We heard that if the women had only sat down together, this whole...
	Government shutdown would have been resolved in like a couple of hours because Nancy Pelosi is so awesome and Debbie Wasserman Schultz is so awesome and all the women are awesome.
	And here's Robert Redford.
	He should be an honorary member of Agenda 21 if he's not already.
	An honorary woman too, by the way.
	Well, I think whatever idea I would have had to make things work just wouldn't have been accepted by this minority faction.
	I think that no matter what you would propose, they would go against it because their determination was to destroy this person.
	That's just the setup so you know that he's hating the minority faction.
	That would be the Tea Party terrorist.
	And now...
	They wanted, if it meant destroying the government, anything to keep him from succeeding.
	Okay.
	Redford's hope for change?
	A new generation.
	And gender.
	Crediting female senators like Susan Collins for putting politics aside to get a deal done.
	I think the future should belong more to women, you know, and young people.
	I won't argue with that.
	Well, no, I guess not.
	I won't argue with that.
	My mom is spinning over in her grave right now.
	She used to be so in love with Robert Redford.
	I remember as a kid, when I was like six, my mom would say, I'd leave your dad and this whole family for Robert Redford.
	This is why I hate Planned Parenthood.
	Because parents suck.
	I remember that.
	But now I know that she would say, oh, what a drip.
	That's exactly the word she would use.
	Ugh, what a drip.
	And by the way, Robert Redford not looking good in the face department.
	What happened?
	He's old.
	No, I think old men usually grow old.
	He's like 90.
	He's not 90.
	I think he had some work done and it's not looking good at all.
	Well, that wouldn't surprise me.
	No.
	So here we were talking, it was kind of mentioned in the newsletter, we maybe discuss a little bit.
	He's 77.
	He's pretty old.
	But a lot of these guys have worked on it, and there's a certain kind of work that creates this face that...
	That was noticeable to me, because we had one of our producers we went back and forth with.
	He was noticing Hillary having...
	Oh, duh!
	...developing certain kinds of weird lines.
	Yeah, that's what you get when you have a little nip-tuck done.
	Well, she's getting these, what I call it, there's a line that you see William F. Buckley had it, and so did Gore Vidal, which is you got a cheek that's kind of puffy, and you have like a horizontal line across the bottom of the cheek.
	When you smile, you get this line that goes straight out that is weird looking because it's like from the skin that was stretched in some wrong way.
	I think it's possible that she not only had a facelift, And she may be using Botox, although I saw her eyebrows go up and down and the clip the guy sent us.
	Yeah, that's not going to be Botox then.
	Yeah, but she definitely has had some work done.
	We've already determined this.
	Well, let me just remind everybody.
	It may not be good.
	No, well, it's never good.
	Let me remind everybody that we predicted that she would do this before even considering a run for 2016, that she would have work done and make Yeah, we actually called when she had it done.
	She all of a sudden disappeared.
	Yeah, well, she fell down, she fainted, she hit her head, and then she's at the plastic eye surgery doctor coming out there with huge glasses on.
	Come on!
	Yeah, so she used to work down on her eyes, but she's also had some...
	A little nip and tuck somewhere, because it's getting lines that are unnatural.
	I think she had a little neck job under the chin.
	Anyway, it's irrelevant, because good for her.
	And quite honestly, when she is President of the United States, I want her to be tight.
	And I'm praying for her to become President, because of this very conversation.
	And I know many women who say, I think, to a certain degree, my own wife says, well, you know...
	More than a certain degree.
	She's all in.
	Come on.
	She's listening.
	Be honest with yourself.
	Yeah, she feels that mothers will never send their children to war.
	What?
	What?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so anyway, so there's a new movie out.
	It's a documentary.
	And when you look at this thing...
	I don't know if there's any bad or any good really, but this is produced by, the big marquee name is Sharon Stone.
	She produced it?
	Yes.
	With a couple other people, and these are no slouches, the people who are involved in this documentary.
	I can't find any crazy UN funding or anything like that.
	I just haven't been able to find it.
	I think that she and her cronies here probably really did produce it.
	And that's the scary part, is they really, really, really, really believe in women...
	Being in charge of being the boss of us and making the world a better place.
	Here is a quick...
	This is just one of these crazy sound bites just to give you an idea of how confused she is.
	The thinking of it in terms of a feminine identity versus a masculine identity.
	But I think that's just a hinge to how we're going to think as we shift forward into our graceful identity of thinking of ourselves as beings.
	Okay, so clearly insane.
	Tell me what she just said there.
	I have no idea.
	Here's the trailer for the movie Femme.
	There's never been a better time to be a woman.
	It's a new birth, and in this birth...
	And by the way, the women you're hearing here are all super famous, like Gloria Steinem, and there's a couple others I want to highlight.
	See if you can identify any of the...
	I won't be able to by their voice.
	It's hard.
	I can guess who might be.
	Women are becoming the primal...
	power person.
	What?
	I just want to make sure you heard it right.
	Any woman that knows how to run a household knows how to run a world.
	And I'd like you to put you in this rocket ship and take you to a world that you can run.
	Wow.
	Men cannot heal the patriarchy.
	But women and men together could.
	What a real man does, he stokes the flame of the feminine.
	He stokes the radiance of the feminine.
	He lets her be everything she can be.
	And she is the power source of the universe.
	The princess!
	Yeah, do you hear that?
	This is like...
	The princess!
	The man has to stoke the fire in the woman.
	And by the way...
	I got some stoking for you here, babe.
	In the times of Cleopatra, that's how it was.
	This is the kind of harken back phenomenon that we've seen with the emergence of the Islamists and their desire to have the old caliphate back because things were so much better then.
	And this would be the same thing with these women, and I think you nailed it.
	Cleopatra is probably the model.
	They won't talk about Margaret Thatcher.
	Oh, in fact, in fact, oh, oh, oh, I'm glad you mentioned that.
	Here is Sharon Stone along with, now this is a very interesting woman who I'd never heard of, Marianne Williamson.
	Never heard of her.
	Okay, Marianne Williamson.
	Her domain name is Marianne.com.
	I'm like, okay, bitch got some dough.
	What's she doing?
	She writes these books.
	She's very successful, and she's hot, and she's single, so she writes about sex, and swinging, and whatever, and being a better woman, and being a powerful woman.
	And there's really no information on...
	Well, she's had a lot of work done.
	She's 61.
	She looks like she's 30.
	She looks hot.
	But it's unclear.
	Not when she's grimacing.
	Well, I did find one article, which I'll read from in a second.
	She's there in Houston, Texas.
	That's where she's from.
	Here she is with Sharon, with Piers Morgan.
	But I had to clip this because what you just said about Margaret Thatcher comes up at the end of this clip.
	I think that when we look at how well Ms.
	Clinton did her role.
	I love this.
	How Ms.
	Clinton did her role.
	This is coming from an actress, by the way.
	That's exactly what it is.
	You're just doing a role.
	Just doing a role for your banker overlords.
	Wow.
	And how successfully she moved nation to nation.
	I think we can see...
	She had a plane!
	It's a big one, too.
	We look at women.
	It's funny.
	When I was making this clip, I knew you were going to say that.
	I knew that you were going to say that.
	In these inner relationships, country to country, how successful that that can be.
	Marianne, would it be different for America as this great world superpower still if Hillary Clinton became president in 2016, as she may well?
	Well, when it comes to her support of women and children, her talk about economic empowerment of women, educating children, particularly girls around the world, obviously she's standing for a feminine perspective.
	But with Mrs.
	Clinton, as well as with other women, you were talking about world leaders, Mrs.
	Thatcher, not every woman, just because she's a woman, is an anti-corporatist or an anti-supporter of the military-industrial complex.
	It takes more than just a female body to really stand for feminine values.
	I have to say, I heard that, I was like, okay!
	Wow!
	Why don't you just, this woman, be honest with herself and say, Thatcher, she was a conservative.
	She was a conservative and they aren't women.
	There's no such thing as a woman conservative.
	She had a penis, I'm telling you.
	Yeah, that's what a lot of guys know.
	That's what the liberals in Britain said.
	I'm not sure what bathroom she goes into.
	So this movie features this documentary, Maria Bello, Maria Conchito Alonso, Gloria Steinem, Jean Houston, Marianna Williamson, you just heard, Nobel Peace laureates Shirin Ibadi and Mariette Maguire, and over 100 experts from around the world.
	If you look at who the other producers are, So there's Amanda Estremara.
	She's a producer.
	I think Andrea Barron.
	Is it Andrea Barron?
	Hold on a second.
	I think that's the one.
	Andrea Barron.
	Yes.
	No, wait.
	No, that's not the one.
	She's also a producer.
	Here's the one I was looking for.
	Then we have Barbara Lazaroff.
	And Celeste Yaranoff, one of these women is like the co-founder of Spago's, the restaurant with Wolfgang Puck.
	But this is money.
	Yeah, Barbara Lazaroff, that's her.
	Spago co-founder.
	These women, and they're all like, you know, Milfie.
	They've all had a lot of work done.
	Well, they've had work, and Sharon Stone, she looks phenomenal regardless.
	Yeah.
	Now, isn't she insane?
	Who was it that was married to her that we know?
	Was that Hearst?
	No, no.
	She was married to Hearst's editor, Phil Bronstein.
	Right.
	Bronstein wooed her and got married.
	You and I, we had a meeting with Bronstein.
	Don't you remember?
	Yes, we did.
	Of course I do.
	And didn't I bring it up?
	To be like, hey, how's that insane wife of yours?
	Or did he bring it up?
	You didn't say that.
	Or did he bring it up?
	Let's be honest about it.
	I don't know.
	I remember him saying she was insane and drunk.
	She?
	I think that's what he said.
	They had split up at that point.
	Yeah, they had.
	I know.
	And I know that I was doing something once with Hurst and we were trying to get Bronstein to watch a Super Bowl or something.
	And apparently Bronstein couldn't do anything without Sharon Stone's publicist giving him the okay.
	Yeah.
	Because the ruin is her career, and that was all that counted.
	So he couldn't go out with the guys.
	He couldn't do this.
	He couldn't do that.
	He couldn't be seen driving this sort of car.
	And so his whole life was just like...
	And she was apparently just...
	She wouldn't have kids.
	Drunk.
	Well, there was that issue.
	She liked to drink.
	But the guys at one of the restaurants that I go to, that they like to go to, said they were always on pins and needles at the restaurant.
	For one thing, she would always demand to come into the restaurant, even though it's a heavily reserved place, demand a table, so they'd have to find a way to get her a table.
	You know what?
	She's Sharon Stone.
	This is what we're dealing with.
	I remember that.
	They're elitist, they feel privileged, they feel benighted, and not in a good way.
	Benighted.
	Beaver-nighted is what she was.
	And this is the person who's now telling people how to live their lives.
	No, no, no.
	Better is that men, men specifically, need to...
	What was it?
	Be the...
	They need to be roasting?
	No, sparking their women?
	What was it?
	Be...
	Hold on, let's listen to it again.
	Here it is.
	Be everything she can be, and she is the power...
	Stoking.
	Stoking?
	Let me just check here.
	And she is the power...
	Need it to go back a little bit further.
	Okay, here we go.
	Knows how to run a world.
	Men cannot heal the patriarchy, but women and men together...
	Ah, a real man.
	A real man stokes the flame of the feminine matriarch.
	She stokes the radiance of the feminine.
	Stokes the radiance.
	Let's her be.
	I'm stoking you.
	Everything she can be.
	Honey, get down here right now.
	I feel like stoking.
	She is the power source of the universe.
	We have new tools and new vocabulary, allowing space for emotions and communication, and also supporting young women in finding their voice and speaking their truth.
	If men raise children as much as women do, that awakens in men the nurturing that is in all human beings.
	You know, I find this very offensive, this part.
	It's very offensive.
	Now, let me give you one of my favorite little things I saw in Berkeley.
	So, going up the street, there's these two women, obviously lesbians, but they're friends of some sort.
	And the boyfriend, or the husband of one of them, was...
	Coming up the rear with a baby on his back.
	He's helped.
	He's just helped.
	And a baby in the front.
	He had two babies.
	They're walking ahead of him as he's wandering.
	He's the mule behind them with the two babies.
	The bearded mule.
	And these two women are yakking to each other.
	And they both look like a couple of real weirdos.
	Not to make fun of anyone who's had that persuasion.
	But they looked like a couple of assholes.
	And this guy looked like a complete loser.
	And this is the future that they're trying to get us to do here.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I mean, when I saw that, I said, oh, there's plenty of people that think that's a good idea.
	Your future as a bearded mule.
	That's a bearded pack mule.
	It was bearded.
	That's a good point.
	It allows boys and girls to see that men can be as loving and nurturing.
	It's been so imbalanced.
	You know, by the way, men are as loving and nurturing, it's just not shown in popular culture.
	This is real bullshit.
	But by the way, I'm not against this documentary for these very reasons.
	In the role of leadership that the masculine is all the way up here, even with a lot of women politicians, suddenly the feminine is beginning to rise.
	What leadership is calling for now is a whole integrated individual that comes from the heart and the soul and knows.
	This is transgenderism, I guess.
	A whole integrated individual.
	It is better for our society than what we've been doing so far.
	We want to help transform the world because otherwise the children won't survive.
	Otherwise our biosphere will collapse.
	The population control issues, lady.
	John, the biosphere is going to collapse.
	Didn't you hear that?
	The biosphere is going to collapse.
	The children.
	We've got to think of the children.
	I was trying to insert it, but then, you know, of course those great things never work when you don't plan.
	There we go.
	Somebody please think of the children.
	...by the archetype of the Titanic.
	Because we're on it.
	We are headed to the iceberg.
	So what we have to...
	We're headed to the iceberg.
	...to do is turn around the Titanic.
	That was global warming.
	Now it's an iceberg.
	...in time.
	We have to turn around, and we have to turn around now.
	We have to take back our power and say no to war.
	It's all about remembering peace and love.
	Women are the growing edge of our species right now.
	They are going to fix the world.
	Someone get shared another drink.
	Women are going to fix the world.
	Okay.
	Now, I am not against this.
	In fact, I am all for it.
	I support it.
	I really hope it works out.
	I'm skeptical at best.
	I think it's a crock of crap.
	And I probably couldn't get through that movie.
	And Sharon Stone actually left Phil Bronstein because, as a friend told me that knew them both very well, said she didn't want to get outed as a bad mom, so she moved back to L.A. where she could blend in.
	As a bad mom.
	Yeah, as a bad mom, it's fine down there because you don't have all these local snoops.
	I'm going to watch this tonight with Ms.
	Mickey.
	It's available now on...
	If you can get through the whole thing...
	Of course, Ms.
	Mickey will probably stab you when it's over.
	If I can get through...
	Keep the knives away from her.
	If I can get through...
	Lousy man!
	Stoke me!
	In fact, I... Can you get your balls off for me if I asked you to?
	Yes, of course, honey.
	I feel that we should start a new service, the Curry Dvorak Consulting and Stoking Company.
	Just give us a call.
	I will come over and stoke you.
	I support this wholeheartedly.
	I want Hillary to be president.
	I want women to run everything.
	And I will be.
	I will enslave myself.
	It'll be like Napolitano running everything.
	Well, before we get to that, John, because we do have stuff to talk about in that area as well, I need to say in the morning to you, John Steaborik.
	In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all the ships of sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights.
	Out there.
	And in the morning to all the human resources who have shown up once again in our chat room, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net, thank you so much for being a part of our Sunday and letting us be a part of yours.
	We do have two executive producers and two associate executive producers to thank for show 558.
	Right after I thank Rob Little for the artwork on episode 557.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can find all of the submissions.
	We always look forward to the great stuff that comes in.
	And now one, possibly two e-books in the making for all of the art.
	That are available at noartgenerator.com.
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	It is truly listener-supported.
	And just like Hollywood, we have opening credits for our executive producers and associate executive producers.
	John?
	Yes.
	We start with Barron.
	Of the Black Knight Baron of Silicon Valley and beyond.
	He's getting up there, isn't he?
	Isn't he close to a dukedom?
	Dukedom.
	Yeah, he's getting there.
	You're right, because every time he does one of these club memberships, $558.66 for Club 558, sole member, he gets halfway to another knighthood, which adds up.
	In the morning, John and Adam, and close find my Club 558 membership and 66 cents toward the six-year anniversary of this donation.
	Includes $100 from two listeners that use the NA discount code on my special 4kspecials.com store.
	He sells monitors.
	And not just 4K TV sets.
	4K gear.
	And gear.
	You have to have the gear if you're going to get this stuff.
	Gear.
	I continue to provide discounts to any listeners and match the discount with a donation to the show.
	Please send me some of that great karma to help me close some big deals this week to expand our 4K content library.
	Oh, all right.
	Here's some 4K content karma.
	Hey, hey.
	You've got karma.
	All right.
	David Julian in Morgan Hill, $330.33.
	Blue?
	Fire hydrants?
	There he is again.
	Please read the note I mailed to JCD for an explanation.
	Also, knighting ceremony needed this time around.
	No knighting ceremony.
	I plan to get knighted along with my brother soon.
	Oh, he wants to have a bro knightage.
	Yeah, it's a combo.
	Bro united and it feels so good.
	Hey, John, he writes...
	I saw your email and I asked them what this was all about.
	Yeah, this code.
	I recently brought up the 33 meme in conversation.
	Someone suggested that if a code like that existed, everyone would know about it.
	My rebuttal, what are the blue reflective pucks in the road for?
	They're code, markers, whatever.
	And they're everywhere here in the States.
	They're just not there for aesthetics.
	And not everybody knows what they mean.
	At all.
	Years ago, I was curious and did some no-agenda-inspired research, a.k.a.
	reading the source material put out by the government, and discovered they marked the existence of a fire hydrant.
	Now, I can't stop noticing them, and it's turned into a game where I try to spot the hydrant.
	When I do, I think, no agenda!
	And hope others will, too.
	This is a grand conspiracy to fool the public.
	Fire hydrants are a bit benign, but I think it proves my point.
	There are lots of messages out there.
	They're just not always for you.
	You know the shoes on the electricity lines?
	Shoes?
	Have you ever seen that?
	Yeah, yeah.
	You know what those are for?
	Yeah, to embarrass some kid whose shoe you threw up.
	No!
	No, man, that marks the drug dealer place.
	It does?
	Yeah!
	Green shoes, you can guess what's being sold there.
	White shoes.
	I saw a pair of Texas diamond, you know, sparkly boots the other day.
	I'm like, I wonder, whatever drugs they're selling, it's Garubay!
	Yeah, that marks the drug dealers.
	Either the coroner, which is not, you know, they don't sell drugs on the coroner in Austin.
	I did not know that.
	Yeah!
	See?
	Well, now I'm looking for the blue little markers.
	Yeah, I'll be looking for those.
	On the flash, on the little reflectors.
	So here's how it works.
	When you see the blue reflector, you think...
	No agenda.
	When you see the shoes over the wires, you think...
	No agenda.
	Dude, I want to get high.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	No agenda.
	No agenda.
	Exactly.
	Well, thank you, David.
	Now we know.
	Again, little tidbits that you pick up on this show, nobody else even talks about this stuff.
	And they're useful throughout your entire adult life and make great cocktail party conversation.
	If you want to be the guy at the cocktail party with these sorts of stories.
	Did you know?
	No, no, no.
	Ease into it at the cocktail party.
	Don't just go, hey!
	Blue dots mean fire hydrant!
	This is not how you do it.
	So anyway, so we still don't know what the 33 is.
	No.
	Matthew Dupree in Lufkin, Texas.
	What if they make the measuring stuff at Lufkin, Texas?
	Because Lufkin is one of the major...
	I'll tell you another little tidbit.
	If you have a tape measure, Lufkin makes one of them.
	Stanley makes another one.
	Craftsman makes...
	There's a bunch of companies.
	You have to...
	If you're running a factory, you have to standardize on one brand.
	Because if you have any of these, you can do this trick to yourself.
	You can try this yourself.
	Get any good long measuring tape.
	It doesn't even have to be that long, but usually the 150 footers prove the point best.
	And pull them all out.
	They're all off by a good foot.
	Really?
	A full foot?
	The 150s are.
	Jeez.
	So you have to standardize on one or the other, and then all your stuff is the same.
	Otherwise, if you've got one guy measuring with a Lufkin and another guy measuring with a Stanley, you don't have the same measurements.
	Anyway.
	So they do have a...
	I wonder if this is the headquarters.
	They certainly do have an office in Lufkin, Texas.
	I would hope.
	So Matthew Dupuis, 213.33 from Lufkin.
	Hi, everybody.
	Here's $33.33 for all of the 64 episodes of The Best Podcast.
	For each of the 64 episodes of the best podcast in the universe, I've heard thus far, rounded up to 33 cents for mac and cheese fund.
	Nice.
	I'm responding to your pleas for donations during the summer dog days.
	You've provided numerous hours of side-splitting entertainment.
	Thank you.
	Yet never try to sell me seeds.
	Wait!
	Precious metal certificates, mail enhancement, or water purifiers.
	Oh, well, we did come close.
	Yeah, he says we've threatened to do so numerous times.
	Wait, I think iodine is my next thing.
	Iodine.
	Iodine.
	You need iodine to protect from the wave of radiation coming from Fukushima.
	Fukushima is going to kill us all.
	You need iodine.
	Please send some of that famous no agenda job karma my way.
	I recently received an electrical engineering degree and could use some help.
	Landing an awesome career as a moderately trained human resource.
	Nice.
	And whatever happened to the tech grouch, Dvorak?
	I need an iPhone and a 5S review that only the Buzzkill can provide.
	Please add me to the birthday list Monday, October 6th.
	Matthew, of course.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You thought...
	Nice.
	Thank you for your support.
	And finally, in our short list here, Peter Tangstrom.
	We managed to talk a lot during our short list, so it sounds longer than it is.
	20666, and he's in Amsterdam.
	ITM Theo and T? No, no, no.
	It's Theo and Taya.
	Theo and Taya.
	It's a joke.
	Like Theo and Leone?
	Teo and Tea are these, it's a very famous comedian, and he did a sketch which was supposed to, which is kind of a take-off on kids' shows.
	Yeah?
	And they are creative with cork.
	Oh, okay.
	I'll get that slide.
	Teo and Tea, creative with cork.
	Thank you for your courage and international courage gratitude day by anonymous proclamation.
	You guys are my lifeline.
	Last year I cycled alone from Madrid back to Amsterdam.
	Wow.
	That's a cycling trip.
	I knew it was bad in Euroland, but I didn't know that.
	That's pretty bad.
	Wow.
	And I allowed myself to listen to you for an hour when I was feeling down, tired, or fed up with the world.
	I'd be fed up too with that drive.
	Yeah.
	In the end, I made it all the way.
	The only disadvantage is that whenever I hear you, I think of rain and headwind.
	This is not a good association.
	We need to reprogram.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Hold on.
	I'm going to reprogram him now.
	Okay.
	Peter.
	Peter.
	Hookers.
	Dvorak.org.
	Slash.
	N.A. Peter?
	Porn.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. That's it.
	We've done our clearing.
	You're safe to go.
	And so I want to remind people that we do have a show on Thursday coming up and a little light today.
	We'd like to get some, pick up a little bit.
	This will be the show before the 6th anniversary.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. ChannelDvorak.com slash NA. NoAgendaShow.com and also NoAgendaNation.com is a place you can click if you can't get to Dvorak.org slash NA. Yeah, we do need the support.
	You'll see everything's a little shorter today.
	And that's all we can say is help us.
	I also think the NPR... We're good to go.
	Oh yeah, valuable to you.
	Think about what would life be like without us.
	Yeah, no.
	Imagine you woke up one day, turn on the radio, and there was just no NPR. And I'm like, yeah, Valhalla!
	But no.
	And I'm not talking about some DJ who just forgot to put on a song.
	I swear to God, this is the pitch I heard.
	No, this is what will happen if you don't support NPR. No, it won't.
	And this thing about, you know, most of our money comes from listeners like you?
	Bullshit.
	I can read numbers.
	I can read your numbers.
	This is just not true.
	It's also not mainly from the government.
	It is from advertising!
	Yeah.
	No, the government gives them very little.
	Even though that counts, it's enough that they bitch and moan if they're going to get cut off.
	Well, that was enough for their new building, what they got from the government.
	Yeah, the building.
	They're making, what, $100 million a year or something like that?
	No, I think it's more.
	It's like $200 million from the government.
	It's ridiculous how much money they got.
	Sometimes they do say it properly, and they say it's from listeners like you and local small business.
	Well, yeah, if you want to call Dell local small business, okay.
	Yeah, it's local to us.
	Burlington Northern.
	And by the way, I'm okay with it.
	I enjoy hearing...
	There's a lot of things I wouldn't know about happening in Austin if they didn't advertise on NPR. But don't...
	Don't pretend like it's just underwriting and like you would say, oh, this play sucks balls.
	And you won't because they're at the Zack Theater or whatever that is advertising.
	So you're compromised.
	By the way, did I tell you that we're going to go to the Sander Bernhardt show?
	She still works?
	Yeah.
	And so I read in the Austin Chronicle, she has two shows, one night only, on the 22nd of October, which I think is Tuesday or Wednesday.
	And Mickey loves her.
	She thinks she's really funny, and she's a great actress, which I agree with.
	And I've met her once or twice, and I found her to be strangely attractive.
	Yeah, in a weird kind of like, I don't know, just strangely attractive.
	And so I booked the 9.30 show and I got us VIP tickets, John, so that we can have a glass of champagne with Sandra after the show.
	This is like, I love this.
	That should be good for a laugh.
	Yeah.
	And then I get a call.
	Yeah, due to the overwhelming demand for the 7 o'clock show, we've decided to do one show only and cancel the 9.30.
	I'm like, how insulting are you right now?
	You're telling me because the 7 o'clock show is so...
	There's so much demand for that.
	You're canceling the 9.30?
	That makes no sense.
	Well, that makes nothing but sense to me.
	Pack and a man so we're going to do less.
	Yeah.
	So, like, okay.
	Well, I guess we'll do...
	I wanted to have dinner, but yeah, we'll do the 7 o'clock show.
	Do I still get the VIP seats?
	Well, you're two rows back.
	I'm like, well, okay.
	Do we still get the shanty?
	With Sandra Bernard.
	But anyway, so they will not talk bad about her, maybe after the show, but while the ads are running on NPR, which they are.
	It's a commercial outfit, people.
	Here is proof.
	Where is it?
	Okay, moving on to money.
	How are NPR's corporate underwriting revenues holding up in the recession?
	And what about foundation grants?
	Two different stories.
	Underwriting is down.
	It's down for everybody.
	I mean, this is the area that is most down for us, is in sponsorship, underwriting, advertising, call it whatever you want.
	There you go.
	Call it whatever you want.
	Anyway, hopefully we can pick her up and take her home and party with her.
	There you go.
	Yeah, it would be nice, wouldn't it?
	I actually met her on a plane.
	We were both sitting next to each other, essentially, and then we chatted a while.
	And she seemed like a pleasant enough person, but I was kind of baffled.
	I was going to Ottawa.
	And I was kind of baffled by the...
	When I travel, especially if I'm going to some place like Ottawa or anywhere, it's kind of anywhere, actually.
	I always do this.
	I never take a car.
	I always rent a car because it's more fun.
	You can drive around.
	You can stop at hamburger places.
	You can do all kinds of things.
	You can mingle with the public.
	But no, she had a limo.
	And it was like for some, she was doing a performance there and they gave her a car.
	I'm always offered cars when I give a speech someplace.
	And I always refuse them.
	I say, it's too expensive.
	I can't trust these guys.
	You know, they put you in the back, they lock you and they roll up the thing.
	You're in some back of some limo with darkened windows.
	You feel like you're a prisoner.
	It just makes no sense to me.
	By the way, I'd like to point out that VIP tickets is a difference between $25 and $45.
	$20 to have a glass of champagne?
	Yeah, it'll be worth it.
	We'll collect cards when you're in the back room.
	It's not a back room.
	Well, who knows where it's being done.
	You know, it's not worth it.
	Yeah, it is.
	You could have crashed it for free.
	No, I'm not a crasher.
	No.
	Anyway, what was my point?
	Yeah, my point was...
	You gotta hit him in the mouth.
	Just play the thing.
	Well, I was trying to do that, and you interrupted me.
	That's what I wanted to do.
	I said, go out and propagate the formula!
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Order! Order!
	Shut up, slave!
	Shut up, slave!
	Well, the kid got mangled there.
	Anyway.
	Sorry, kid.
	Anyway, so women are going to save the world and they just need a little stoking.
	And I'm excited about all that.
	Eh.
	I just think that's just a dead end.
	I don't know what these people are trying to prove.
	Well, it's part of Agenda 21.
	It's not going to stop.
	It is going to continue, and it's only going to get worse.
	And it's going to be a part of life.
	And I'm saying right now, I'm all in.
	Yeah, you would be.
	It's a long game for me, but I'm all in.
	So, since the show...
	Since the show has a theme every time we do a show, this one is picking up little tidbits of knowledge.
	Yes.
	I've got one here that was kind of surprising to me, that's got a tidbit of knowledge in it.
	It's the Brazil sugar fire story.
	Have you heard this?
	No, I have not.
	Yeah.
	And a fire in Brazil's largest port has burned some 180,000 tons of raw sugar and pushed international prices to a one-year high.
	Four people were injured in the blaze, which erupted in warehouses owned by Copper Sukar, the world's largest sugar trader.
	The authorities in the port of Santos said it took six hours to bring the fire under control.
	Brazil is the world's main sugar exporter, accounting for nearly half of international sales.
	Did you know that?
	No, I didn't.
	Brazil accounts for half of international sugar sales.
	It doesn't surprise me.
	It doesn't surprise me, and they also make fuel from the sugar that they use in their cars.
	Well, I'm glad that we screwed up the relationship with Brazil, which we did.
	Yeah, and then we firebombed their place.
	She didn't show up.
	I was like, hey, how's your sugar doing?
	It's possible.
	That wouldn't surprise me.
	There's another fire going on, the one in Australia, of course.
	This is a yearly story.
	This is interesting.
	Here's what's interesting about it.
	I have two clips.
	One is fire in Australia.
	It's the PBS report.
	And then I want you to play the...
	Okay, here we go.
	So the first one is...
	Let me make sure we've got it.
	The first one is PBS. In Australia, unseasonably hot temperatures combined with strong winds to fan the flames of nearly 100 wildfires.
	And 36 of the fires in New South Wales, the most popular state in the country, were burning out of control.
	Smoke plumes stretch for miles and even cast an orange haze over downtown Sydney.
	Conditions are still too intense to get an accurate number of how many homes have been destroyed.
	Okay, we've heard this part.
	Okay, you've heard that.
	Now you'd think, now when you hear the second report, a little factoid kind of comes to the surface, actually right off the bat, that was completely left out of the U.S. reporting, and I can't imagine why.
	Can I guess ahead of time what it is?
	That this is not abnormal for this time of year?
	No.
	In Australia, the country's military says it's investigating whether major bushfires are linked to an explosives training exercise on its land.
	Firefighters have been battling a series of major wildfires in New South Wales with fears that hundreds of homes have been destroyed.
	The blazes are continuing to burn on the outskirts of Sydney despite the easing of temperatures and winds.
	Alex Parry updated us a little earlier from the capital.
	The Australian Defence Force has admitted that it was conducting military explosive training on Wednesday when the fire started.
	Now we're questioned on how serious the link is between the two incidents.
	The Defence Force says its focus right now is on survivors and helping them.
	Yeah, by the way, hold on a second.
	I'm going to give it to you because I was looking for something like this that was unsuccessful in finding it and you got it.
	So here's your clip of the day of war.
	Absolutely.
	Heaven forbid that we blame the military for anything.
	Because what I know is that bushfires around this time of year are not, or brushfires as you say, are not all that uncommon.
	In Australia, but what is uncommon is for it to be around Sydney.
	Because last year, the big fires were all, man, they were like Melbourne.
	Yeah.
	Which is not next door.
	You know, it's not like New York and D.C. So I was wondering, why is it happening there?
	I mean, and here it is.
	So the military essentially set something off.
	The shit caught on fire.
	Why are they doing this during the fire seasons?
	They're idiots.
	They're idiots.
	No, we're not going to cover that because, as you know, and especially in this country, the military is awesome and is totally awesome and always will be awesome.
	We can't talk against that.
	No.
	But we have these kinds of stories.
	We had it in the last show with the poor guy who got his Medal of Honor, but the military was trying to screw the guy.
	Yeah.
	And there's a story that's emerging in France on the Somali pirates.
	I got this off of VanCat, too.
	And this is a story where there's a little military oops involved in the story where they've just found these pirates guilty of piracy of some poor guy who owned a yacht.
	And staying in France, a court here has sentenced three Somali pirates to nine years each in prison.
	Friday's result follows the April 2009 hijacking of a French yacht that led to the death of its skipper.
	The three pirates had asked for leniency, saying they were forced into piracy because of poverty.
	French special forces stormed the sailboat off the coast of Somalia in a bid to free Florent Le Masson, his wife, their three-year-old son, and two crew members.
	They killed two pirates, but also accidentally shot dead Le Masson during the operation.
	Oh, dude, I'm so sorry!
	How did you shoot the captain dead?
	He looked black!
	He wasn't black.
	He was a white French guy.
	Oh, man.
	That's bad.
	That's really bad.
	Well, that's like the story that's going around.
	There's no clip for it, but apparently some cops are going past some guy's house, and one of them decided it smelled like meth was being boiled in there.
	So let's go blow it up.
	So they ran in there and shot up the place and killed some 80-year-old guy, some old fart, and there was no meth in there.
	The guy just stunk.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, this is the kind of thing.
	Yeah, well, it's all where we're headed.
	It wouldn't happen if women were in control.
	That's right.
	If women ran the show, then none of this would be taking place.
	Nope.
	And, by the way, can we cross-Stoke?
	Cross-stoke?
	Yeah, like my woman...
	Yeah, I think that's allowed.
	Like my woman can allow me to go and...
	She can stoke you?
	Can I go stoke some other woman if she needs it?
	You want to go stoke, just randomly stoke somebody?
	No, I'm just saying that if women, if real men stoke other women to bring them to their true potential...
	You know, there's not enough real men out there, John, and I think you and I certainly qualify as real men.
	Yeah, I mean, we're going to be in high demand.
	Yeah, yeah, this is called bigamy.
	Bigamy?
	I think we should become Mormons first, because there's some justification for this.
	They probably have some tips.
	Yeah, I'll bet they do.
	No wonder they're doing so well, those Mormons.
	All the dudes are stoking the women.
	Yeah.
	The President had a new one today, and normally when he throws out one of these little...
	What have we had recently?
	We've had...
	Common Sense has been a big one.
	These little catchphrases that he could come up with.
	We should put an e-book together with his catchphrases.
	We could.
	And there's a new one that he has in his new podcast.
	The Heil Everybody podcast.
	And I wouldn't have clipped it.
	I had to clip both instances because he used it twice and he actually messed up the second one, which means he's struggling with it.
	But it's a doozy and I think you'll be hearing about it more often.
	As, of course, he needs to spike the ball a little bit about solving the world's problems.
	Heil Everybody!
	Hi, everybody.
	This week, because Democrats and responsible Republicans came together.
	Responsible.
	I love this.
	What a gem.
	This is a guy who's supposed to be bringing these parties together.
	That's the way he does it.
	Little needling constantly.
	Just a little bit.
	...default was removed from our economy.
	There's been a lot of discussion lately of the politics of this shutdown.
	But the truth is, there were no winners in this.
	This was also a meme, by the way.
	The no winners.
	No winners.
	No winners.
	At a time when our economy needs more growth and more jobs, the manufactured crisis of these last few weeks actually harmed jobs and growth.
	Now, manufactured crisis is something he's used before.
	Yeah, he uses that a lot.
	And by the way, the manufactured crisis doesn't mean it was just Republicans who were doing it.
	It's all manufactured crisis.
	And everyone in government is complicit.
	And it's understandable that your frustration with what goes on in Washington has never been higher.
	The way business is done in Washington has to change.
	Now that these clouds of crisis and uncertainty...
	The clouds of crisis, John.
	Clouds of crisis and uncertainty have lifted.
	We need to focus on what the majority of Americans sent us here to do.
	Grow the economy, create good jobs, strengthen the middle class, lay the foundation for broad-based prosperity, and get our fiscal house in order for the long haul.
	No, I thought we sent you there to protect us.
	Isn't that his job, one, to protect us?
	Well, here's that clouds of crisis again, except now he messes it up.
	We won't suddenly agree on everything now that the cloud of crisis has passed.
	Now it's the cloud.
	Now it's just one cloud of crisis.
	It's a cloud of crisis.
	We won't suddenly agree on everything now that the cloud of crisis has passed.
	The cloud of crisis.
	But we shouldn't hold back on places where we do agree.
	Is someone there going for a Nobel laureate position or something?
	Pulitzer.
	Pulitzer Prize?
	The cloud of crisis.
	I mean, I'm an illiterist.
	I really love alliteration.
	I'm illiterate.
	I like alliteration, but clouds of crisis?
	Is that the best you can come up with?
	It's pretty lame.
	It should be Clowns of Crisis.
	Now, I think I had...
	I have another clip where I think he maybe drops it in again.
	No.
	But this was the one...
	This is kind of a long clip which explains the reopening...
	I have two reopening the government clicks.
	Clicks.
	Clips?
	Mm-hmm.
	And this is the one that's got Obama going off on.
	This one I thought was similar.
	In fact, I thought it was the same one because I was waiting for some of the zingers that were in this one to show up in your clip.
	But I think that clip that you played, the first one, I think it was edited.
	It's all edited.
	His podcast, he can't do a single five-minute podcast.
	Everything is edited with this guy.
	Okay, this wasn't from the podcast.
	This was from one of his stand-ups.
	This is from one of his theater shows?
	Yeah, play this Reopening the Government with the Obama Kicker.
	By the way, I didn't make enough muffins.
	I brought muffins.
	Tens of thousands of federal employees were back on the job after last night's agreement.
	Elsewhere, other signs of things returning to normal.
	In the nation's capital, popular tourist sites reopened.
	The National Zoo's beloved PandaCam came back online, although the zoo remained closed until tomorrow.
	The Senate's Ohio clock resumed ticking, its timekeeper no longer furloughed.
	And national park sites across the country, from the Great Smoky Mountains to Alcatraz Island, welcomed back visitors.
	But at the White House, President Obama said despite the late-night congressional action, Americans were completely fed up with dysfunction in Washington.
	He called on lawmakers to put aside partisan differences and work together for the good of the country.
	Now that the government has reopened, And this threat to our economy is removed.
	All of us need to stop focusing on the lobbyists and the bloggers and the talking heads on radio and the professional activists who profit from conflict and focus on what the majority of Americans sent us here to do.
	I didn't hear anyone say podcasters in there.
	We dodged the bullet.
	We got lucky.
	Dodged the bullet.
	Dodged the bullet on that one, John.
	Bloggers.
	Bloggers.
	I'm like, oh, don't say podcasters, don't say podcasters, don't say podcasters.
	Did you notice that they...
	Who focuses on bloggers?
	Oh, he invited a couple bloggers to have an off-the-record conversation.
	Yeah, well, they're the ones that would go for that.
	No, but they went for it.
	Of course, they're the whores.
	John, if the president invited you and I to come and have an off-the-record talk, I'm like, send Air Force One, bitch!
	I'm on my way!
	I'd refuse to go.
	I would fly out with Air Force One to pick you up.
	I'd even fly the other direction just so we could party on the plane.
	Yeah, well, they're not sending Air Force One out for us anytime soon.
	Listen, if the President, seriously, if the President asked us to come and have an off-the-record meeting, I would go.
	Wouldn't you go?
	You'd say no.
	Yes, I would stand my ground insofar as my ethics are concerned.
	What do you mean?
	Being the ethical person I am, I would not go.
	I would say I'll do it as an embargo, but I'm not signing a nondisclosure.
	Oh, I didn't know he had to sign a piece.
	I wouldn't sign a nondisclosure.
	Well, if he just wants to chat about the record, I'm sure it's going to be boring.
	Exactly.
	The only cool thing is we get to hang out.
	I mean, you're not going to learn anything.
	You think the bloggers went to have a meeting with the president and they learned something stunningly new?
	No.
	You just told them to shape up or ship out.
	Exactly.
	By the way, at the beginning of that clip, you should just play the first three seconds.
	It's Biden walking into the EPA saying, I've got muffins!
	I've got muffins!
	By the way, I didn't make enough muffins.
	I brought muffins.
	Tens of...
	Yeah.
	You know what irks me?
	So all this stuff reopens and the clock starts ticking.
	It's like, oh, I mean, how stupid are we?
	But then the White House tours resumed.
	And I'm like, hold on a second.
	The White House tours were shut down because of the sequester.
	Not because of the government shutdown.
	How did they return?
	Apparently they found money somewhere.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	It's bullcrap is what it is.
	It's total bullcrap.
	The tours were shut down.
	Remember that all the school kids, oh, we can't visit the White House because of the sequester.
	The mean Republicans.
	And now the shutdown is over, but not the sequester.
	The sequester is still the same, isn't it?
	Yeah, the question's still in play.
	That was part of the Republicans' deal.
	They wanted to keep that thing going.
	Well, there you go.
	They made a point of it.
	Yeah, but apparently we're being duped.
	All right, so we do have to scrap from the Red Book in the...
	Let me see, where do we have this?
	I have a jingle for that somewhere.
	Well, maybe not.
	Sometimes I'm convinced someone comes into my studio and rearranges stuff.
	I wonder who that might be.
	No idea.
	All right, here it is, though.
	This is from the Shadow Puppet Theater Department.
	This is Jay Johnson now taking over the Department of Homeland Security.
	Incorrect.
	As I was told by our people on the inside, it was going to be Inglis.
	But of course, both Inglis and Kaiser Wilhelm Alexander have decided to retire early in a couple of months, so they're going to fade off into the sunset.
	So Inglis couldn't very well become the head of the Department of Homeland Security.
	I guess the guy from New York, what's the fascist police chief there?
	Kelly?
	Kelly?
	Kelly.
	So Kelly, I guess Kelly has it too good.
	He's like, I don't want to...
	What a pain in the ass.
	I got an army here I'm running.
	I've got, like, stormtroopers.
	I've got cameras.
	I've got computer control rooms.
	It's like, I'm not going to go sit at a desk job.
	I'm on the streets with action, baby!
	So Jay Johnson, very interesting fellow, and I found a clip, and I still don't have the channel Al Jazeera America, which I'm...
	I'm still miffed about it because they're doing some good work.
	Yeah, at the moment they are.
	I agree.
	They brought on a lady who, and I liked what, you know, so they have a lot of pundits everywhere, but this one right off the bat just, you know, says where she's coming from, or at least that's in her intro, and I really appreciated it.
	Having that knowledge, as she then talked about Jay Johnson, I wanted to just go through this and discuss it with you because I think it really lays out everything about this guy, the good and the bad, and really where he's coming from, which to have him as the head of the Department of Homeland Security is frightening.
	Yeah, I know.
	Go ahead.
	I'm sorry.
	No, I was going to say I also have a backgrounder on him as a clip, but if you want to play yours first.
	Yeah, let's roll through this and let's see if we need more than we'll play yours.
	I'm not looking for this opportunity.
	I had left government at the end of last year and was settling back into private life and private law practice.
	But when I received the call, I could not refuse it.
	Yeah, for the money?
	Must be great.
	And the power.
	This is all about power.
	So this guy is going, if you've read In This Town, which I've talked about incessantly, you'll know that this is how you set yourself up to become a hundred millionaire.
	Because you just go, oh, I'm a lawyer.
	Everyone knows I'm a lawyer.
	I've got a private practice.
	Oh, I'm going to go in and get some creds.
	Do you have any idea?
	It'll be in this clip.
	Yeah, how did Janet Napolitano become the head of the University of California?
	She's never managed an organization like that.
	Do you have any idea how many people work at DHS? Just a guess?
	100,000?
	No.
	It's in this clip, but you're low.
	To discuss Johnson's nomination, we turn now to Tara Mahler.
	She's a research fellow at the New America Foundation and previously worked as an intelligence analyst at the CIA. Tara, thanks for being in.
	Well, I don't know if she was an intelligence analyst or intelligence analyst, but she worked at the CIA. And I'm like, this is good.
	Good.
	That's all we get.
	The only people that show up on television now work for the CIA. That's great.
	But at least we know that she's going to be honest because the CIA is not friends with DHS. And nor should they be.
	No, but I like this.
	Thank you.
	So, what kind of a fight do you think he's going to face on Capitol Hill?
	You know, I don't think he's going to face that big of a fight.
	He's not that high profile.
	She's pretty good, by the way, this girl, this Maler, whatever her name is.
	What's your name?
	Maler.
	I think it's Maler, M-A-L-L-E-R. Hold on, I'll back it up.
	Maler.
	Fellow with the New America Foundation and previously worked as an intelligence...
	Oh, hold on.
	...private law practice.
	Sorry, I'll get a name here.
	When I received the call, I could not refuse...
	I think it's something Maler.
	To discuss Johnson's nomination, we turn now to Tara Mahler.
	She's a research fellow at the New America Foundation and previously worked as an intelligence analyst at the CIA. I got some intelligence here from the CIA. Hey Tara, thanks for being in.
	Thank you.
	So, what kind of a fight do you think he's going to face on Capitol Hill?
	You know, I don't think he's going to face that big of a fight.
	He's not that high profile prior to this in terms of public name recognition.
	And he's not that polarizing.
	And I mean that by looking at other people President Obama could have gone with.
	However, there's been some criticism.
	He is a big campaign donor.
	This is not unusual.
	Yeah, $33,000.
	Hello?
	Did you notice that number pop up anywhere, John?
	No, I didn't, but it's funny.
	Well, first of all, hello, $33,000?
	I mean, forget it being the magic number.
	$33,000 is just, that's a huge wad.
	Lots of presidential appointments have given monies to the president's campaign in the past, including...
	Yeah, gee, what a coincidence.
	...appointment of Tom Ridge, so...
	Well, that does raise the question of a lot of Republicans of whether he's qualified for this job.
	Well, Republicans have been out criticizing the campaign donor aspect of the story, and there are some questioning credentials.
	Now, Homeland Security is a role that you can tap from a variety of areas, whether that be law enforcement, whether that be someone with a legal background, which in this case, Jay Johnson has.
	That's very interesting.
	The previous few secretaries, Chertoff, Napolitano, and Ridge, were all lawyers.
	Did you know that?
	I didn't know that the other two were lawyers.
	I knew Napolitano.
	I didn't know Chertoff was.
	The whole government is lawyers.
	Yeah, well, that's the way it's working.
	But do you know what this guy, what his legal expertise is in?
	Well, tell me.
	The kill list.
	Oh, no, I know that.
	He's the one who approved the...
	Yeah, yes.
	So it's not actually that unusual.
	But Napolitano at least was a governor.
	She had a lot of experience with border issues that he does not have.
	Exactly.
	I think actually the most credible sort of questioning of his...
	Credentials would go to the fact that he does not have immigration experience.
	Most of his work has been in the Pentagon itself as general counsel under President Obama, under Bill Clinton, also in the Air Force as general counsel, and a long practice in law dealing with security issues like drones and questioning about striking U.S. civilians linked to al-Qaeda overseas.
	Striking.
	I love that.
	Striking.
	I'm going to strike you.
	Oh, you mean kill?
	He has a history in that area, not in immigration, not with management of a 240,000 person bureaucracy.
	240,000 people.
	A quarter of a million people.
	Bigger than Microsoft.
	A quarter of a million people.
	Well, there you go.
	Thank you.
	That's a great analogy.
	Our homeland security is like Windows.
	So this girl, Tara, she only was with the agency for like two years after, and she was a military analyst, supposedly, from 2004 to 2006, before she actually went to school.
	She came out of Dartmouth, I guess.
	But her claim to fame is she was an intern for Hillary.
	No!
	That figures.
	Just long enough.
	And then she went from there to Dartmouth.
	Then she went to the CIA for two years.
	Then she went to MIT as a teaching assistant.
	Then she went to a managing director of operations and managing editor for Brightwire.
	What was that?
	Then she went to the Global Terrorism Risk Assessment Project, ERGO, which we need to look at.
	ERGO? Research Fellow.
	Yeah, E-R-G-O. Oh, boy.
	Research fellow of the New America Foundation.
	So here we go back into politics.
	And then she shows up and now, this is all from LinkedIn, now her claim to fame is she's a guest commentator on foreign policy and national security multiple networks.
	This is what she does.
	She's appeared on CNN, HuffPost, Al Jazeera.
	I like her.
	Well, she's presentable.
	I like her.
	She has half the homeland mobilizing women for cyber security is something I found.
	Hey, can you look up someone else?
	Sure.
	Can you look up, because I don't want, because you know when you look someone up, then they get a, they can see that you looked at them.
	Not if you know what you're doing.
	All right, well, here's how I do it.
	I ask you to do it.
	Bill Clare, C-L-A-I-R, no E. Does that name pop up?
	I'm just going to see.
	Is he the principal director of customer service at the Aerospace Corporation?
	There's a bunch of Bill Clare's.
	There's like a crap load.
	C-L-A-I-R. Anything with CIA? Well, there's a guy that's executive director of the ESRC group.
	Is he old?
	He doesn't have his age on the rundown you get at the beginning.
	You don't get...
	I don't see anybody that says CIA. CIA guys usually don't show up on here when they're active.
	No, no.
	He's inactive.
	Or at least he wouldn't be like active-active running shooting because he's in his 70s.
	That's alright.
	I doubt it.
	We can work on him later.
	Alright.
	A little show for shows.
	The Thursday show.
	Yeah, believe me.
	A little due diligence here.
	Believe me.
	Okay, just forget I asked about that.
	It's the size of the Department of Homeland Security.
	You know, when you hear him say that he thinks that the war on terror should not...
	This is very interesting.
	Now listen to what's being said here.
	So he apparently said, and I don't have audio or video of it, that the war on terror can't last forever.
	Now remember this guy is a lawyer.
	Can you hear him say that he thinks that the war on terror should not be endless?
	The war on terror of Mahler?
	It's one of the statements he made earlier this week.
	What do you think he means by that?
	Yes, he made that statement.
	I believe it was this week, but he's made that statement before in speeches he made when he left government to the Oxford Union and Yale Law School.
	So I think we're going to see him take a big role in terms of whether or not some of these programs might be wrapping down over the next course of the few years.
	What kind of programs do you think he may wrap down?
	Well, there's a question of sort of...
	You were just about to talk over the punch.
	Hold on.
	You know, the course of the few years, however...
	What kind of programs do you think he may wrap down?
	Well, there's a question of sort of when the legal authority for this war has ended, and he's made statements to the...
	Did you hear that?
	Yeah, the legal authority.
	There's a question, apparently there's a question out there about when the legal authority for this war has ended.
	This is not insignificant.
	Listen to it again.
	No, and it's probably codified somewhere.
	Listen to it, yeah.
	Sort of when the legal authority for this war has ended.
	Okay, so apparently the legal authority for this war, the war on terror, has ended.
	And I think you're right.
	I think it's codified somewhere.
	And this guy knows it.
	And he needs to figure something out because of the terror that is being pressed upon the citizens of the United States of Gitmo Nation.
	And it has to stop.
	But this is not being challenged because we don't know where to look.
	I mean, try and Google legal authority for the war on terror.
	Good luck with that Google search.
	I tried binging it.
	No joy either.
	No bing!
	But I'd like to know.
	I know we have a lot of lawyers out there who listen to the show.
	I'd like to know.
	Is there something we can point to that says the legal authority for the war on terror has ended?
	I'd like to know.
	To me, that was like, whoa!
	Fascinating.
	So this guy is a trained killer.
	Because he will determine if you are appropriate to be killed, and he will be in charge of 240,000 people, many of whom are trained to kill you.
	How do you feel?
	I could do without him.
	Do we want to play your background or just to...
	Yeah, it's a little different.
	It actually is better than that other clip because she never really gets...
	This is like package, so it's gotten more dense.
	Always nice of a package.
	An attorney in government and private practice, Jay Johnson said he could not refuse this opportunity to serve once again.
	I am a New Yorker.
	And I was present in Manhattan on 9-11, which happens to be my birthday.
	When that bright and beautiful day was shattered by the largest terrorist attack on our homeland in history.
	I wandered the streets of New York that day and wondered and asked, what can I do?
	Since then, I have tried to devote myself to answering that question.
	Johnson served as General Counsel of the Air Force during the Clinton years.
	Then, in private life, he became a prominent Democratic fundraiser, up through the Obama campaign, before returning to the Defense Department as its top lawyer during the President's first term.
	As general counsel, he helped shape many of the administration's counter-terrorism strategies, most notably its controversial use of drone strikes in countries like Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia.
	He also co-authored the Pentagon's report on gays serving openly in the military that ushered in the repeal of the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy in 2010.
	Shortly before leaving government in December 2012, Johnson spoke of the need to fight terrorism without being on a perpetual wartime footing.
	I do believe that on the present course, There will come a tipping point.
	A tipping point at which so many of the leaders and operatives of Al-Qaeda and its affiliates have been killed or captured, and the group is no longer able to attempt or launch a strategic attack against the United States.
	If confirmed by the Senate, Johnson will succeed Janet Napolitano.
	She stepped down in September to lead the University of California system.
	Like his predecessors, Johnson will have his work cut out for him, taking the helm of a sprawling department home to 22 agencies and still grappling with growing pains more than a decade after it was created.
	Yeah, like the complete anti-male behavior.
	The sexual discrimination in the workplace, which was...
	Right, the lesbian discrimination against the men.
	Which was neatly tucked away.
	Which should be in that movie, by the way.
	Which movie?
	Femme.
	Femme, yeah.
	So let me get this straight.
	So we have an ex-banker who is now running the CIA... FBI, I'm sorry.
	He's the guy that came from HSBC. Well, that's for a good reason.
	Yes.
	Well, so they can launder the money, which is what they're good at.
	Then we have a super attorney who determines if people should be killed by drone strike, death from the air, sky hell.
	By the way, what is his name, J-E-H? J-E-H, yeah.
	That's annoying, too.
	Very annoying.
	I pronounce it J. J. Johnson.
	J. Johnson.
	From now on, he's J. Johnson.
	J. Johnson.
	You've got to say J. Johnson.
	Jensen.
	Jensen.
	And then we have a lawyer running the entire Department of Justice who is a gangster of epic proportion.
	He is a mafia, and he has a stranglehold on Jamie Dimon for something.
	God knows what.
	Now, of course, more than a week ago, we played for you the stunning news direct from the analyst report.
	So you knew about this before it even hit any mainstream news.
	About the $28 billion JP Morgan has reserved for fines and penalties.
	Friday night, he went to go see the...
	The copy to tutti copy holder had a sit-down meeting with him and they struck a deal.
	The towering presence in world banking for JPMorgan Chase was humiliated after revelations it lost billions of pounds because of deals which went disastrously wrong.
	In the run-up to the financial crisis, many investment banks created sophisticated financial products called mortgage-backed securities.
	These special bonds contained a mix of investments, but at the heart of them were supposed to be home loans which were considered risk-free.
	JP Morgan is alleged to have sold these mortgage-backed assets knowing full well that many of the home loans were very risky.
	Many people believe that these mortgage-backed assets played a central role in the near collapse of the banking system when banks realized in 2007 that a lot of their assets were worth a fraction of their official book value. - Thank you.
	Last month, J.P. Morgan was fined almost a billion dollars in a separate case.
	One trader was nicknamed the London Whale because of the size of his risky bets.
	Now, interesting on this is the London Whale, that penalty for that one trade, apparently, is only 900 million dollars.
	This is nothing compared to the overall number.
	This tentative deal to pay a record fine of $13 billion to the U.S. Justice Department would settle all potential civil actions against the bank, but it doesn't mean that criminal cases against individuals are ruled out.
	Yeah, I'm sure we're going to see all kinds of people go to jail.
	Not...
	No, but it's a good thing to hang over their heads when you want them to do what you want them to do.
	Exactly.
	But $13 billion!
	And of this, $4 billion is to settle claims that they lied to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac about the quality of the loans.
	They sold to them.
	I mean, you're saying Lehman is responsible for this financial crisis?
	No.
	Looks like these guys just sold to the government bullshit paper, lied about it.
	Another $4 billion in consumer relief.
	I think that may have been predetermined.
	They've already paid for that or reserved for it.
	$5 billion in penalties paid by the bank.
	The London Whale really was only $100 million in America, $920 million in the UK. And so you've just got to ask yourself, Let's say, how much money can...
	They're borrowing this free money, literally, from the government.
	They hold on to it.
	I mean, just from one billion...
	If you borrow a billion from the government and you can hold on to it for a year, that's $200 million in profit, isn't it?
	To get 2% on a billion dollars?
	I don't think they're getting that.
	I think it's less.
	Oh, I'm sorry, 1%?
	Gee, only $100 million.
	But if you borrow hundreds and hundreds of billions...
	Yeah, you make out.
	That's why the banks are so tight with giving money away.
	But nowhere...
	I mean, we can't just let this pass as normal.
	That this bank actually has this.
	They have a trillion dollars in assets.
	What?
	Where did this all come from?
	Well, that's the wrong guy.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's stolen.
	It has to be stolen money.
	It can't be anything else.
	Where do you get that money from?
	I think it's all a bookkeeper's error.
	Yeah, I think it's just a big spreadsheet.
	Here it is.
	Here's where the money is.
	It's right here.
	It says it right here.
	It says it right here.
	So Jamie Dimon sits down with Holder and Holder says, nah, nah, nah.
	If you read this, they have a stooge on the inside.
	Apparently some lower level assistant, they found one of her emails and the email was to the muckety-mucks, including Dimon apparently, saying, hey, these mortgages, they're total shite.
	And we really shouldn't be selling this, and this is not okay, and we're lying.
	So they have this smoking gun email, and she is now cooperating.
	Until she winds up dead.
	Oh, no.
	She may have to testify, actually, is what they're talking about.
	So that should be thrilling to see that.
	So they have a whistleblower, and this Holder guy is just squeezing the golden boy of Wall Street.
	That's bold, man.
	So it's bold.
	We'll see.
	Well, what do you mean?
	It's definitely worth following.
	I mean, then the only guy who ever writes about this is Matt Taibbi at Rolling Stone.
	No one ever writes this in any...
	And I don't think he's written about this yet.
	He will, of course.
	But no one writes in anything understandable.
	And we just all sit back and go, oh, whatever.
	Oh, yeah, well, it's just J.P. Morgan.
	It's pretty hard to deal with.
	Yeah, it's the same thing with the NSA. Okay, now I'm getting really angry.
	People.
	And I'm looking at you, Obots.
	It is a gross offense for you to make the NSA spying on American citizens a punchline of your joke.
	And it's happening more and more.
	And I'm calling people on it, and I'm doing it really with an annoyed, angered look.
	Well, it's just me, you, and the NSA! That is not funny.
	It is not funny.
	And I'm not going to allow it to happen on my watch.
	Here's Eleanor Clift, the moron who tries to think less and tweet more.
	Using the same NSA as a punchline.
	The repercussions of the Snowden revelations continue.
	And the head of the NSA, Army General Keith Alexander, is stepping down early next year along with his deputy.
	Was that unexpected?
	Now you see that she's already ready to do the joke.
	And she gets interrupted off script.
	I saw his performance on one hour of television and I thought he was terrific.
	Well, he's stepping down to spend more time with his family and the joke is he's stepping down to spend more time with his family so he won't be spending it with yours.
	All the time!
	Shut up!
	Yes, discussing that has become commonplace.
	I'm not allowing it to happen.
	It's like turning the public into acceptance.
	So you go, well, yeah, they're probably listening in.
	Well, if you look at the statistics, I think, was it the New York Times maybe even that had an article about this?
	No, the Observer.
	Public indifference is the real enemy in the NSA affair.
	Yeah, I agree.
	And it really is.
	People don't care.
	I got...
	There's two articles here in the show notes you should definitely look at.
	What is happening now just in shopping malls and around town with tracking you on your cell phone through your Wi-Fi that's on, but your Bluetooth, and what is the new iPhone 5 has these, what are these little things, these iBeacons?
	I don't know.
	I have no idea.
	I don't use an iPhone.
	Yeah.
	I don't carry a phone at all, as you know.
	Hey, you know what?
	I fixed it.
	I got it to work.
	My Google Voice to APRS gateway.
	Oh, cool!
	So I'm literally carrying a radio, and it will beep when someone has sent me a text message.
	I can read the text message, and I can send one back.
	From your radio?
	Yes!
	Yes!
	And the cool thing is...
	You should write this up!
	No, I am.
	I mean, this is incredibly cool technology.
	Write it up and how you do it, and I'll have it published in a newdomain.net site.
	Yeah, no, but I actually want to publish these scripts.
	These are Atom scripts right now.
	It's like Rube Goldberg.
	It's like...
	You know, the Google Voice hits my Thunderbird.
	Thunderbird triggers an email rule.
	The email rule writes something to my hard disk.
	A Cron job picks it up and then opens a Telnet session.
	I mean, it's crazy.
	I have to simplify it a bit.
	But what's cool about it...
	Is that this APRS, it's a worldwide messaging standard.
	If you have APRS on your radio, then we can text message each other all day long, regardless of internet connectivity.
	This is what's cool about it.
	So next month, on the 13th of November, when they do the big blackout drill, when everything will actually black out and the whole world goes to shit, I'll be able to text message my buddies.
	Oh, on APRS? Yeah.
	APRS is a fascinating thing to look at.
	Anyway, I digress.
	And then I got this email from one of our producers who has Bell in California, I guess, as his internet provider.
	And I put this, yeah, Bell, California.
	Important notice about how Bell uses information.
	And they are changing now, starting November 16, 2013.
	That's after the big blackout, by the way.
	Bell is going to start using the following categories of information, whether you like it or not.
	Web pages visited from your mobile device or your internet access at home.
	This may include search terms that may have been used.
	Location, app and device feature usage, TV viewing and calling patterns.
	This is your internet service provider.
	It's just going to use that, whether you like it or not.
	However, under these new programs, we will not share any information that identifies you personally outside of Bell Canada and its affiliates.
	And how this information is going to be used is to create business and marketing reports for other companies to create business and marketing reports.
	And here's my favorite.
	When you use the Internet on your mobile device, laptop, computer, or TV, you often see unfiltered random ads on websites and within apps.
	We would like to use certain network usage information and account information to make the ads you see more relevant to you.
	This is such bull crap.
	These ads may be from Bell or...
	Okay.
	Let me just stop you.
	Because we've talked about this a lot.
	It's big data, which I'm now calling big doo-doo.
	Which is big data, which is bull crap.
	No, no, it's big doo-doo.
	All this is, I've come to this conclusion, and you can go on and finish this with your conclusion, but my conclusion is that they have come up with this relevant nonsense as the real excuse to just spy on you.
	And lock you into something, some bigger pile of crap.
	There's no benefit to the user.
	There's no benefit whatsoever.
	We've known this from our own experiences, and everybody out there knows this.
	From your own experiences, when you go from a website to website, you buy a basketball from Amazon, and the next thing you know, you're being sold another basketball over and over again.
	The same basketball.
	You already bought the basketball.
	They don't even know that much, because this is bull crap.
	Go on I'm sorry.
	Well I think it's worse.
	Yes, it's worse.
	How could it be worse?
	They actually believe they can give you relevant ads.
	This is the bad part, is there's an entire team sucking up resources, sucking up your money that you're paying to them for, which should just be quality network connections, and they are actually putting deep packet inspections developed by British Telecom and deployed by British Telecom, putting that into place To actually think that they can do this, that they can deliver relevant ads.
	Now, the bottom line, big data is big doo-doo.
	It doesn't work.
	It doesn't exist.
	It's not going to happen.
	We are not some uniform collective that you can scan a million of us and say, oh, when he's scratching his left nut, he wants to buy a woolly hat.
	It just doesn't work that way.
	In fact, I'm really enjoying email advertising these days.
	I'm really enjoying it.
	I'm really getting into it.
	Spam is what we used to get.
	We're like, hey, click on this link for a good time.
	And then you get like a stupid Viagra ad.
	Now it's like email advertising is becoming very sophisticated.
	I think that's why Google is smart.
	This is why Google said, screw it.
	This email stuff with the pretty pictures and it looks great, we've got to get it all under one tab so we can put ads at the top.
	And that's all they know how to do.
	The whole advertising on the internet, bullshit.
	It doesn't work.
	Yeah, people click on stuff, of course.
	Search advertising works.
	And that's why the search engines are bogative.
	It's all geared towards that.
	But when it comes to knowing who you are, no.
	I'm sorry.
	It doesn't work.
	It's not going to work.
	It never will work.
	It's a pipe dream.
	Where is my fridge ordering the milk?
	One of my favorites.
	Yeah.
	And that is only one reason why we don't do advertising on this program.
	The other one is...
	There's another reason, and let me explain it.
	Which is the clip.
	This was actually kind of interesting.
	I didn't know these numbers.
	Again, part of today's theme, learning little things.
	Play the clip, PR and the news.
	The actual act of going out, shoe-leather journalism, is being really isolated.
	There's less and less of it.
	There's less and less resources for it.
	And there was a great Pew study out of Baltimore a few years ago that showed that roughly 96% of the news in the town was still coming off old media sources, right?
	But old media was producing 73% less news stories than 20 years ago.
	So you've got a lot of churn around this, but not a lot of there there.
	And people get that.
	Now the great crisis of the moment, and this is the thing to be really scared about, is that what we see is as old media, traditional media declines, as new media struggles because there's not the resources to do journalism, what fills the void?
	It's public relations.
	In 1980, when Ronald Reagan became president of the United States, there was a one-to-one ratio between journalists and PR people.
	Today, there is a four-to-one ratio.
	Four PR people for every one journalist.
	Isn't the saying, like, if you're not pissing someone off with your news, it's PR? I've never heard that saying, but it's probably true.
	I thought there was some famous person who said that.
	Maybe.
	Yeah.
	Well, yes.
	So, when it comes...
	So.
	So, I think we just go into it.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on no agenda.
	Big doo-doo.
	In the morning.
	We have a bunch of people to thank and we want to thank a few of them.
	We're going to thank the ones that gave over 50.
	The rest of them we thank anonymously because that's the idea.
	Craig Mazzella.
	Oh yeah, we do.
	You're right.
	Anonymously.
	I'm sorry.
	What am I thinking?
	Yes.
	Craig Mazzella in Norwalk, Connecticut came in with $111.11 and he says he figures it was time to donate.
	I can be a boner no longer.
	Now remember this, 111.11, this is making it rain.
	You remember that, don't you?
	This number, this particular donation amount is making it rain.
	Is that right?
	Yes!
	What was that?
	Well, when we discussed it on the show.
	No, I don't remember this.
	Well, you remember when you talked about you making it rain with a whole bunch of $100 bills?
	Oh, making it rain.
	Yeah, at a club.
	Yeah.
	So making it rain has been determined by our producing audience to be 111.11.
	Oh, okay.
	And in fact, we're supposed to both say, make it rain!
	We are?
	Like the little whores that we are, yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Making it rain there.
	Yes.
	Give it up for Amber!
	That's what we want to hear.
	Thank you.
	That's it, John.
	Figured it was time to donate.
	I can be a boner no longer.
	He says, I can't recall what show it was, but recently a Craig from Norwalk donated.
	And I thought, wow, my wife donated in my name.
	That's awesome.
	Turns out she didn't.
	But she's still awesome because she listens to the show as well.
	Sending some ones to make it rain, JCD, hoping to obtain knighthood in the future.
	Can I reserve knight of the fifth column because it sounds too damn funny?
	Yeah, well...
	He needs a de-douching little girl shut-up slave to his co-worker Henry for turning me on to the show and perhaps one other clip of Adam's Choice.
	And thank you both for your courage.
	Oh, I get a clip of Adam's Choice?
	This is, that's always, okay.
	I would, I have a request.
	What is that?
	Call Clooney.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	Okay, here we go.
	De-douching first, right?
	You've been de-douched.
	Shut up, slave.
	You've got something going on and you need a distraction.
	Call Clooney.
	Call Clooney.
	Call me sir, goddammit.
	There you go.
	Ron Boyd in Ontario, California, $111.11 making it rain.
	He has a note that he sent in.
	This came in as a check.
	Well, you have to do your welcome to the stage when someone makes it rain.
	Everybody give it up for Amber!
	You already did Amber!
	Raven!
	How do you know these things?
	Straight from Reseda, here she is, Raven!
	Give it up!
	Up next, Bambi!
	Bambi to the stage!
	Bambi to the stage!
	Wow, you do know it.
	Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine.
	There you go.
	Alright.
	This donation is the first installment from the iPhone iPad app, No Agenda Karma Generator.
	If you can give it a mention and a link, it's appstore.com slash noagenda.
	We mentioned it on the last show even.
	We put it in the show notes.
	Ron Boyd keeps sending us money.
	He keeps wanting a note.
	So anyways, No Agenda Karma Generator at the store.
	Thank you, Ron.
	Sam Manor in Box Hill, Victoria, Australia, $100.
	And now we have our little...
	69!
	69, dude!
	Yeah, I'm on point.
	Michael Kearns from Platte City, Missouri.
	Sir Brian Barrow of Wooten Bassett.
	James Dyer in...
	Or Dwyer?
	Dwyer.
	What was that?
	I'm sorry.
	I said Dwyer, but I wasn't planning on talking.
	I was planning on doing a little silent burpee.
	Hong Kong.
	Dave Carey in Clermont, Florida.
	Edward Hines in Jacksonville, Florida.
	And finally, Benjamin Ritgers in Ames, Iowa.
	69!
	69, dudes!
	A request from the chat room, when you make it rain and bring the girls on stage, could you move a little closer to the mic for more distortion?
	Oh yeah, you're right.
	You want to do a dry run?
	You want to test it again with another girl?
	You want to try it?
	Give it up for Raven!
	Spot on.
	Spot on.
	We could be our own ADR outfit.
	Yeah, I don't know how good that is for the mic.
	That was really good.
	Alright, here we go.
	I don't know why you get such a kick out of that.
	Well, okay, it's multi-layered.
	One, it's perfect.
	Two, it shows that you have experience with this.
	I just get a visual of you in a strip joint, that's all.
	You're making it rain.
	You know, you know exactly what it is, so that's just funny.
	It's theater of the mind, John.
	It would be ruined if we had cameras on right now.
	Yes, it would.
	Elizabeth Borazan in Tucson, Arizona came in with our celebratory 6666.
	And she says, this is for our sack of sixes.
	She says, hi, boys.
	I thank you for your courage.
	With my next donation, there shall be sword play.
	Prepare.
	Hmm.
	I mean, she's going to become a dame.
	Nice.
	Elise Garling, 6666, Sunnyside, New York.
	Sean Pyle.
	Hold on.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry to interrupt.
	Elise Garling's cell is blue.
	Yeah.
	There's a meaning behind that.
	Yeah.
	The birthday callout.
	No, that's yellow.
	Oh.
	Yes, she's going to become a dame today.
	Our limoncello.
	She'll be dame of the limoncello.
	Oh, she's a limoncello woman, yes.
	Yeah, she'll be dame.
	Delicious product.
	Dame of the limoncello.
	And it has a label.
	Totally illegal.
	Sean Pyle in Streamwood, Illinois, 66-66.
	Thomas Airy, Edgewater Park, New Jersey.
	Eric Elaine or Elan.
	And it's from Skip N to E. CW always gets through, he says.
	Oh, I'm sorry, that's Thomas Harry.
	November 2, Echo India.
	CW always gets through.
	Yeah, he's a...
	That's Thomas, yeah.
	Eric Elaine Elan in Kingsport, Tennessee.
	Abraham Daly in Gotham, Maine.
	Thomas Principe in Raleigh, North Carolina.
	Benjamin Ritgers in Ames, Iowa.
	And Glenn Riccio in Charlottesville, Virginia.
	Those are our celebratory 66-66 folks.
	Any of those notes you need to read?
	I see you've got notes.
	I don't know if there's something.
	I've got a note from...
	Are these checks that came in?
	Yeah, these are checks when I have a note.
	The list is short today, so we might as well read a note or two.
	Well, I got the one here from Richia.
	John and Adam, here's a sack of sixes in furlough funds since I'm currently something from sinking some...
	This is longhand that I can't read.
	Sad to expand my territory.
	Said to expand my territory request a peerage upgrade from baronet to baron.
	So apparently he's a sir, Sir Riccio, and he's now a baron somehow.
	Okay.
	So I assume we put that on the list.
	We don't have it on the list.
	I have a note from Craig Peters.
	Please apply this donation to 564...
	Ah, ah!
	This one here I do have to read.
	You get your pen out.
	Please apply this donation to show 564 November 10th.
	Oh, this is for a future birthday call-out, which Craig...
	Send us a note before, because this never works.
	You've got to send it right around the show.
	It won't work.
	You're right.
	I got a couple of pieces of paper from one of these guys whose signature I can't read.
	It includes a get-out-of-hell-free card that looks like it belongs in a Monopoly game.
	It's a great thing to slip into a deck.
	Also, Tim Griffin from Burlington, Wisconsin, sent me a handwritten note and the exact same note printed.
	Dear Ken and Barbie, ITM, I've been a boner for too long.
	He says Bonner on here.
	And in need of a dedouching, so I'm sending this sack of sixes.
	My donation breaks down as follows.
	3333, that's a very good question.
	1655, unclaimed money the state of Wisconsin was holding on DirecTV owed me.
	Which is a scam, by the way, this bullcrap.
	$16 reduction in my...
	Why don't they just send you a check?
	I have more money that keeps showing up at the state of California that should have just been sent to me.
	You know about this, right?
	Yeah, we've talked about this because I did the thing in New Jersey and I got like 80 bucks or something.
	I got like a thousand.
	$16 is a reduction in my NPR donation because the Gates forced them to go all Glamour magazine.
	And Two Cents Worth, the No Agenda show, is the greatest podcast in the universe.
	Keep up the good work.
	Tim Griffin in Wisconsin.
	And I think that's the only...
	All right, but you left off at Frank from Chicago.
	$60.
	$60, right.
	And he says, mention my first name only.
	First time donor, long time boner.
	I started turning in during the days of heavy slide whistling and have been hooked ever since, tuning in.
	Yeah, I understand.
	Tuning in.
	We don't do slide whistles much.
	No.
	Thanks to Tim.
	We change.
	We're on the move.
	It's always handy, though.
	Give him and our other guys a dedouching.
	There's a bunch of them in here that need that.
	You've been dedouched.
	All right, so then we have Sir Craig Peters.
	I think that's the note you just read.
	CKP Creative.
	Was that Craig?
	I think so.
	We have Stephen or Stephan Nelson with Double Nickels on the Dime from Wheat Ridge, Colorado.
	Kevin Payne.
	From Richmond, Virginia, 5069.
	But Craig's is, I don't know.
	Brandon Savoir with 50.
	Oh, here, wait, here's Craig.
	Excuse me.
	He's the one who sends the get-out-of-hell free card.
	Right, that's what I thought.
	In the morning, John and Anne, please apply this donation.
	Yeah, that's the one, yeah, this is right.
	Yeah, you just did that, yeah.
	He does say this, though.
	His wife has been through chemo twice, so give her some fuck cancer karma.
	Can you do that?
	And if you can find it in your heart to play the Noodles Guy clip, do that because it never gets old.
	We might as well do that later.
	Yeah, we'll do that later.
	But first...
	Yeah, and we'll strap a karma onto that in just a minute for everybody to donate it after we thank Brandon Sarwa with 50, Michael Gates with 50 from Colorado Springs, Andrew Haverson from Gravenhurst, Ontario, 50, and Kyle...
	Bauer.
	Bauer from Worcester, Ohio.
	Also $50.
	Everything else under that is unmentioned, but that includes the 33-33s, which are dwindling, I might add.
	12-12s, 11-11s, they're also dwindling.
	A lot of fivers.
	That's because a lot of people get kicked off of these.
	Yeah, that's happening again.
	I got a couple notes on Twitter.
	It's like, why did you unsubscribe me?
	We're not doing it.
	And when they say that we did it, it's not true.
	We didn't do it.
	And I'm very disturbed by people who actually would say that because that means they're not listening to the show.
	Yeah, that's even worse.
	Because we have mentioned this a million times.
	We do not unsubscribe anybody.
	No, of course we don't do that.
	Ever.
	That would be crazy.
	That would be crazy.
	If you get unsubscribed, it's because PayPal decided that you're a bad person.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	So you should be mad at PayPal.
	Yes.
	And you should condemn them for this activity.
	I'd like to send out karma to everybody, including some special night karma for Chris from New Zealand.
	He's going through a tough time right now, and particularly in memory of Keeman and Kindra and Chris, who is feeling very lost and lonely right now.
	It's a bummer, but I wanted to make sure that we...
	Maybe it's...
	Yeah, I think he is from New Zealand.
	I just want to make sure that he gets his karma and everybody else who deserves it, you know who you are.
	Here it comes, just for you.
	You've got karma.
	And that includes Mr.
	Oil, who apparently also was rushed to the hospital this morning.
	Some kind of abdominal pain or something.
	Yeah, that's not good.
	No, no, it's not good.
	This is not good.
	You don't need our people in the hospital where you get sicker.
	That's exactly the wrong place to be.
	Alright, please continue to support this show.
	We made it entertaining, I hope, for you today, but the list was rather short.
	The only place to do that is...
	Unless, of course, you go to one of the many other places.
	John?
	Yeah?
	What other places can we go to donate?
	You can go to besides Dvorak.org slash NA. You can go to channeldvorak.com slash NA. But also, you know, if you go to the noagendashow.com or noagendanation.com, you'll find a button there, and there's an alternative donation process there.
	But Dvorak.org slash NA is the main one.
	Divorock.org slash NA.
	Donate enough to be a night someday.
	It's a birthday birthday.
	Oh, no, but you're not.
	Ah, yes, we get to say happy birthday to Elise Garling, who will be damed in just a moment.
	Actually, to her sister, Briel, who is celebrating today from Elise, and Matthew Dupuis, celebrating on Monday.
	That will be tomorrow, the 21st.
	Happy birthday from all your friends here at the Best Podcast in the Universe.
	And very happy to do this.
	It's nice to have her on board.
	Oh, where's...
	I got your sword there.
	Elise Garling, come on down!
	Kneel before the table as we are very proud to welcome you to the table of the knights and the dames and hereby pronounce the Dame Elise Garling!
	Dame of the drink!
	For you, we have a bevy of goodness.
	I'm pretty sure you'll like the rent boys and chardonnay or maybe the hot pants and booze, long-haired heavy metal guys and scotch.
	Gashas and sake, vodka, vanilla, mutton and mead, that should do it if not just sparkling cider and esters.
	Or if you prefer bong hits and bourbon.
	And thank you very much not only for your support of the best podcast in the universe, your monetary support, but also the support you have given us with your drink.
	Your limoncello has been fabulous.
	Quite a hit here with the families of the show.
	I finally wiped out the maple syrup.
	Oh, that was gone in like two sessions with me.
	Yeah, that's because you weren't like me.
	No, that's right.
	I wasn't like you.
	No, I saved mine and used it only when I wanted to use it.
	That's what it's supposed to taste like.
	No, I couldn't save that.
	It was too good.
	It was just looking too good.
	Yeah, you know, but you actually use it on stuff, too.
	You just drank yours.
	That's weird.
	No, I didn't just drink mine.
	You drank it.
	You know, hey, I was watching Aaron Burnett the other day.
	Oh, I haven't watched her for a while.
	She's about ready to give birth.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	I didn't even know she was married.
	No, she's married to some banker dude that she met at...
	Oh, that makes sense.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	She's married to a banker.
	But I was watching her, and I was like...
	And my first instinct was, hey, who's been eating the Cheetos?
	And then I was like, oh, wait a minute.
	I see it.
	She's pregnant.
	And I Googled it.
	And there was an announcement, I guess, a couple months back, but now apparently she's due in November, so she must be ready to pop.
	And she must be ready to just suicide herself over her job, man.
	Can you believe?
	This is not only a report that is just unbelievably bogative, but then it's followed up by an even stupider report.
	This is all Aaron's fault.
	Henry Kunetsky used to love to fish and wade for crabs and was doing just that last month near Ormond Beach, Florida.
	But after he got home, his wife Patty saw something wrong.
	During the night he woke up, there was a small abrasion on his ankle.
	We thought it was a spider bite.
	By morning, Kunetsky was in terrible pain and was rushed to the hospital as the infection spread.
	It just...
	Ravaged his body so fast.
	Two days later, he died.
	Can you believe this?
	Go on.
	Yeah, a victim of a flesh-eating bacteria known as Vibrio vulnificus.
	Vibrio vulnificus.
	Which is commonly found in warm salt water.
	Doctors say there are two ways to be infected by it.
	One is from an open sore on the body, typically the legs, where you walk out into the warm, salty or brackish water, bay water, or in the gulf.
	Infection can also happen by eating tainted, uncooked shellfish, especially oysters.
	So far this year, there have been 32 known infections in Florida and 10 deaths.
	Last year, 9 Florida deaths.
	The year before, 13.
	Oh, crap.
	Oh, shoot.
	The Aaron Burnett piece got cut off.
	Crap.
	What happened at the end?
	That was so interesting.
	She went into another...
	I'm sorry, it's ruined.
	Fail.
	I'm sorry.
	Just fail.
	Fail.
	Epic fail there.
	I've never seen that.
	That's just terrible.
	It's ruined the show.
	I was waiting for the punchline.
	The clip got cut off.
	Alright.
	Well, here's the punchline then.
	A new punchline.
	A federal air marshal is in big trouble for allegedly taking upskirt photos of female passengers.
	I love this!
	Did you see this guy?
	No.
	He looks anything but like an air marshal.
	He looks like a creep!
	You know, in Air Marsha, you kind of have this visual of a burly guy.
	I'm just checking, just checking.
	Shifty eyes, you know?
	He looks like a little nerdy, sweaty, palmed geek.
	This guy can't save us, and he's running away.
	This whole story, there's something really wrong with it.
	Police say a passenger saw Adam Bartsch taking photos before a Southwest Airlines flight from Nashville to Tampa took off.
	Bartsch was removed from the plane and now faces criminal charges.
	Investigators say he admitted to taking similar photos of women at least a dozen times in the past.
	There goes my subscription to Upskirt.com.
	Upskirt.
	That's the dumbest thing ever.
	Upskirts is a huge category online.
	It's idiotic.
	There's whole communities around this stuff.
	So I'm reading the Erin Burnett wiki page, and guess what's available to us as information?
	Her height?
	Yep.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	That's good.
	Probably one of our producers put it in.
	I would hope somebody put it in.
	What do you think it is?
	One guess, you get one shot.
	5'7".
	5'6".
	That was close.
	She's the youngest daughter of corporate attorney Kenneth King Burnett and Esther Margaret Burnett, née Stewart.
	She attended St.
	Andrews.
	St.
	Andrews?
	In Texas?
	No, in Middleton, Delaware's high school.
	Then she went to Williams College in Williamson.
	Oh, yeah, Williams.
	Oh, yeah, of course.
	She studied political science and economics, graduating with a Bachelor of Arts in Political Economy.
	And she played lacrosse and field hockey.
	Oh, of course.
	Oh, God, I wish I could see her back in the day playing field hockey.
	Running around.
	My favorite sport.
	I love the outfits.
	There's something about girls in field hockey outfits that just, eh, I love it.
	I could watch that for hours.
	I've told you this before, haven't I? I think you have.
	It just always stuns me because it's the kind of information I repress or I fail to remember for some reason.
	Why?
	It's good information.
	There's something weird about it.
	I just see you there, you're drooling with your hands up on the screen thing, holding tight.
	Run, girls, run!
	Watching the girls run back and forth.
	It's a push.
	Go left!
	Push!
	It's a push!
	I even know some of the language.
	Oh, God.
	So, hold on.
	One of the things I wanted to do on every show as we go along here is at least one form of new embedded advertising that we all have to be on the lookout for.
	Oh, very good.
	I like this as an idea.
	Now, this is beyond embedded advertising, but this was the Hawaii Five-0 guys driving in with their Camaro, or one of the cars, and they put this in as like, it's like the Chevy commercial, and they just make it just the most blatant of any one of these things I've ever seen.
	Surf's up, and it's Five-0's new Camaro that's making waves.
	And turning heads all over the island.
	Sponsored by Chevy.
	The official ride of Hawaii Five-O. We need an official ride of the No Agenda Show.
	We do.
	We do need anything.
	We'll take a Jeep.
	It's the Ford Expedition 2005 model.
	Official ride of the No Agenda Show.
	Some squeaks included.
	So I thought that was pretty...
	Oh, I have a different Hawaii Five-O clip.
	Did you see that one?
	No, one of our producers sent it around, though.
	I didn't see it.
	Yeah, that's pretty blatant.
	I guess the ratings are good on that show, though, right?
	Yeah, it's doing very well.
	Have you been following the stupid Robin Williams show?
	Are they still doing McDonald's?
	No, they change every show to a different advertiser.
	Of course, it makes so much sense.
	And it's a very hard show to watch because it's not believable.
	And it's, I don't know, it just doesn't seem to, it doesn't flow.
	It's a bad show.
	I'll be surprised if they carry it much longer.
	I have a new segment on the show.
	It's called Make John Go, Oh Brother!
	Okay.
	Are you familiar with this girl, Emily Dreyfuss?
	Emily Dreyfus?
	Yeah, she apparently works for CNET. Or maybe she writes for CNET. And if you look at her, she's kind of a natural, I think, a natural redhead.
	Kind of cute.
	But that's what she used to be.
	And now she's no longer a redhead kind of cute.
	She's kind of like dingbatty annoying.
	Okay.
	Google her for a second.
	I look at her.
	I see her picture.
	Yeah.
	That's not how she looks anymore.
	But she was on...
	We were talking about 23andMe.
	This is how this came to me.
	So 23andMe is this complete transhumanist, nutjob, crazy hipster, you know, sequence your DNA and find out what you're going to die from.
	I think you've covered it all.
	Yeah, I just want to remind people...
	And so she's on one of these shows they do over there at CNET. And 23andMe comes up.
	And I just wanted you to hear this clip.
	And I only just grabbed a little bit because it goes on for 20 minutes.
	Because this is the insanity that is now blanketing our culture and how excited people are about this.
	And I hate using the word addiction.
	Chemical dependence.
	Or just an affinity for.
	I just got my genetic testing done on 23andMe, which is a website where you can, for $99, you can get your genome sequence.
	What does that do?
	It's so cool.
	Really?
	It's so cool, but also it's really scary?
	I think that's the crux of it right there.
	It's so cool, but also it's very scary.
	Yeah, I was going to say, it's...
	It's nerve-wracking, because you learn, you know, if you have inherited...
	It's nerve-wracking, John.
	Diseases or what you might pass on to your children, but you also learn just like a lot about your makeup.
	What did you learn?
	Does she wear a lot of makeup?
	So much.
	But I learned that I genetically...
	Now, what do you think she learned from all of this?
	By the way, does she wear a lot of makeup?
	She should.
	Well, she says you learn about your makeup.
	Yeah.
	Okay, well, I have two things.
	One is relevant to this story, that I genetically just don't like sugar.
	I don't like sugar.
	My family does not like sugar.
	I don't have a sweet tooth.
	That's why, for dessert, I order more meat.
	So, you know, this, so she knows.
	For dessert, she orders more meat?
	Yes, yes.
	She's very funny.
	Always.
	So they come out with the dessert tray and you're like, I'll take a filet.
	And then I'm like, could I just have like a piece of bacon?
	So this is not like news to her.
	She already knew this, but now somehow this study has said, you have the I like meat for dessert gene.
	Oh, thank you.
	That's so cool.
	I'll take a petite filet.
	That's amazing.
	But the really interesting thing that I learned, I learned a lot of interesting things, but the funny thing.
	This is really interesting.
	John, are you sitting down on your chaise lounge for the really interesting thing?
	I'm holding on for dear life.
	Is that I found out that there's a gene that will tell you whether or not you are sensitive to bad smells, and specifically the smell of other humans, like body odor.
	Sure.
	And I don't have that gene.
	I'm not sensitive to body odor, and either is my husband.
	Ho, ho, ho!
	Wow!
	So the two of them stink.
	So what we learned is that we're probably both so stinky, but that neither of us cares.
	Oh my goodness!
	Now see, this idiot she's with, when she said that, I mean to me, this is like, why don't you just throw me a softball?
	Because when she says we're probably so stinky, the guy should say, tell me about it.
	I know, but these cats don't know how to do a show over there, man.
	Well, they apparently have no sense of humor.
	Somebody throws that line at me on something being broadcast.
	I'm on it.
	Well, she even took it one step further, and then I'll end.
	Because we can't smell each other.
	You've gone nose-deaf.
	Is that only with other body owners?
	Only with other body owners.
	You just have a bad sense of smell.
	No.
	See, I have a great sense of smell, and when I'm walking down the street in the Mission and it smells like urine, I'm disgusted.
	But when I am next to a French person who has never used deodorant in their lives, I don't care.
	Really?
	Brother.
	Really?
	Hey!
	He said it!
	He said it!
	He said, oh brother.
	That is like the most bigoted thing you can just say casually.
	Like French people smell?
	Yeah, it's big as bullshit.
	Of course it is.
	But the whole idea of this 23andMe is like, so cool.
	It's just so cool.
	And then one time at band camp.
	Told band camp, chick.
	Yeah.
	That's what we need to...
	I think if I was running 23andMe, I'd just be sending out random stuff.
	Like a horoscope, you know?
	It's just like...
	Who says they're not?
	Just a bunch of bullshit.
	Just lie to everybody.
	They're not going to be able to prove you wrong.
	That's what I mean.
	Who says they're not?
	They might be.
	It would make sense.
	Hey, hold on a second.
	Hold on a second.
	I smell another opportunity.
	The No Agenda DNA Sequencing Corporation.
	$59.95.
	Half price.
	Swazzle, nothing, me.
	No, $69.69.
	$69.69.
	We'll send you a gene sequence.
	Let's see.
	Let's take a meeting.
	First, we've got to get a hold of somebody's paperwork so we can take and copy it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	So it has to look official.
	And we'll have the first one.
	I think we should always have in there, you may be transgendered.
	This should just be top of the list.
	Just always put that to everyone.
	Everyone needs to question their identity, no matter what.
	It always has to be in there.
	We can match it up a little bit, you know.
	Like, you're probably bisexual.
	You have the bisexual gene.
	What else can we put in there?
	How about the, you'll never be rich.
	You'll never be rich gene.
	You'll never make it.
	You've got that gene, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Here are some other people who have the same gene.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	Look at these losers.
	You're just like them.
	I'm telling you, this could be a bonanza.
	We should really consider it.
	Unless they do cross-checking, which I doubt they will.
	Hey, what's going on up there in Canada?
	Did you see all this stuff going on with the...
	Yeah, the El Cipotog, the First Nation, like the indigenous people.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, the indigenous people up in Canada are always kick-ass, and so they're always irked about something.
	Yeah, but I guess there's this land up there, and it's being fracked, and they don't like the fracking because, I don't know, it's annoying.
	In northern Alberta, there's a lot of this going on.
	Yes, and so they were protesting, and then the Royal Canadian Mounted Police essentially attacked them.
	There's like cars on fire and all kinds of crazy stuff going on.
	Well, we have to follow up.
	Well, we have a couple of producers who are sending pictures and video, but it's not really...
	I have to go on the Canadian sling box.
	So the citizens are protesting Irving Oil shale gas fracking operations on Irving Oil owned land.
	But it's just, I guess it borders on their land.
	And of course, you know, what do they get?
	They probably have like sinkholes.
	Oh, it's probably making a mess up there.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And so they really don't.
	I think Irving Oil is a Texas company, by the way.
	Hey!
	Hey!
	That's a fine Houston company fracking away.
	I just want to know what the...
	I mean, besides the fact they just don't like it, but what is the real beef?
	Is it messing up their land?
	I'm sure it is.
	These oil companies, they don't care.
	So I'm watching...
	I'm watching the PBS about the government shutdown.
	Remember that person we had, that I had a clip of, that was just creepy, giving government analysis, like a big nurse, you know, from the movie, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, very tall.
	He's talking weird.
	Really?
	Oh, Adam, I'm sorry that you feel that way.
	But what was the...
	I remember you were talking about...
	It was a CIA person or some creep from...
	And she couldn't answer any questions and she talked like this the whole time.
	It was just a creepy clip.
	Well, there's another creepy...
	This is probably all part of this women's thing because they want to take over the place.
	But this is another a-hole explaining with the stupidest thing I've ever heard for at least a month, explaining all the difficulties and the interesting parts about restarting the government.
	She's one of the head of budget management of something that had to do with restarting and just wanted to slap this woman.
	I only have a short clip, but play it and tell me there's a little piece of information here that's a little weird.
	Sylvia Burwell, welcome to the NewsHour.
	Thank you so much for having me, Judy.
	So how smoothly did today go?
	I think today went relatively smoothly.
	We haven't heard any hiccups and people were brought back to work and learned that they needed to come back and are starting to bring the government back up as quickly and effectively as possible.
	But 16 days shut down.
	What are the challenges of getting the government back up and running or some of the government back up and running after something like this?
	So a number of challenges.
	The first was making sure that employees knew.
	And I think you probably know that things went quite late last night.
	So making sure we had things in place.
	So that government employees would be notified that the government would be up and running, would be a starting one.
	Others have to do with actually things as simple as information technology and the use of handhelds and mobile devices and how those work after for 16 days not being used.
	And then there comes sort of the longer term issues of there's a lot of work that's backed up that people will need to focus on.
	Wait a minute.
	So if you don't use your government-issued handheld technology, it expires?
	Oh, it falls apart.
	What is that all about?
	It hasn't been used for 16 days.
	It's getting rusty.
	It might not work.
	You gotta bang it.
	You gotta bang it to get it going again.
	It's hard to get the thing restarted.
	You know, how embarrassing is it for the Obama legacy, this healthcare.gov website, Here's the weird thing about it I didn't realize.
	I have a clip from Thom Hartman, your buddy.
	No, no.
	It's your buddy.
	Who describes in his normal kind of snarky way what was supposed to happen, what finally did happen, all the rest of it.
	And he doesn't realize it, but at least when I heard this clip, it brought to mind a huge question.
	And thank you all for joining me tonight.
	Thank you.
	Okay, here's the deal.
	And just to recap this.
	When the Affordable Care Act was passed, the law said that every state had to create their own exchange.
	They had to pay for it.
	They had to set it up.
	You've got to do it.
	Then it went to the Supreme Court.
	The Supreme Court said, nah, not so much.
	It's up to the states.
	And a bunch of states said, screw this, we're not going to do it.
	And the original federal portal was supposed to be just that.
	You go in, you put in your social security number, a little bit of identifying information.
	They say, yeah, this guy's a citizen.
	We'll hand him off to Oregon.
	And then Oregon would handle them.
	But because so many states, because so many Republican governors have said, no, we're not going to do this, the federal system, which is now in use in these red states, is crashing, whereas Oregon just signed up 10% of their entire uninsured population, 56,000 people in 14 days.
	Bang, just like that.
	It's working great.
	And the big problem here is that when they realized, when the federal government realized they didn't have enough money, they didn't have enough resources to make the federal website work for half of America when it was really only designed to work for, you know, as a portal.
	So what question comes to my mind, do you think, immediately after listening to this bullshit?
	The question is Tom Hartman High, is the question that popped to my mind.
	Here's what comes to my mind.
	It was designed as a portal.
	Are you telling me that they spent $600 million plus on what was going to be a portal?
	What are you telling me?
	Let's set a couple of things aside.
	First of all, the $600 million thing is a little bit of a Republican meme that is out there, because that includes all of the CGI federal contracts, not just healthcare.gov.
	So that is a meme that we need to stop.
	That makes sense.
	We need to stop that.
	However, the initial contract before all the add-ons was $97 million.
	Are you telling me that they spent $97 million on a portal?
	Do you realize that, you know, Dig, when it first came out, you know what they paid the first developer who coded Dig?
	$1,500?
	$1,200.
	Yeah, see, I was over...
	Well, so here is the thing that I need to explain coming from having done some of this type of work.
	With my first company, we did, like, derivatives trading desks for a bank.
	We did, you know, some other things.
	We did, like, I can't remember what it was, but I think SGI, before they were bought, didn't SGI get purchased by Sun or somebody?
	Yeah, I think so.
	So, as part of the effort to make them look pretty, I think we had 15 people, and we were a New York headquartered company, we had 15 people on the ground in, would that be Mountain View?
	At the time?
	I don't know.
	You're just asking me.
	I think SGI was in Mountain View.
	It probably was.
	It was either Mountain View, Palo Alto, or Redwood City.
	So very expensive.
	And all these consultants, and we have a guy who knew how to run this kind of project, which is essentially a project manager who then integrates with other project managers.
	And they have deltas and timelines and reports.
	And to this day, I have no idea what we built.
	I don't think it ever worked.
	It was hundreds of thousands of dollars.
	And this is what happened.
	The Obama administration, our current administration, and it's not the president.
	It's Valerie Jarrett.
	It's all these a-holes running around there.
	They think this shit does not stink.
	And it's the hubris that they thought, oh, well, we're the most transparent, most technologically adept administration in history, and we know how to do this.
	Which is also a farce.
	Oh, we won the election based upon our big data.
	No, you didn't.
	It's based upon credit card donations from overseas and a lot of fake money, foreign money.
	You didn't win that on individuals and slicing and dicing data.
	So they actually are smoking their own dope at this point.
	And this is a project.
	This happens all the time.
	And it is a complete, sorry for lack of a better word, abortion.
	It will not ever work properly.
	Ever.
	I've seen this.
	John, you've seen this happen.
	When you get these big contractors, if they're integrating someone else's package, usually they can make it work.
	So if you get one of the big ERP... You know, like Bond or what's the other?
	You get SAP. SAP. You know, these are consultants and it's also millions of dollars to integrate, but it's a known package.
	This is like, we're all going to make up a piece of software.
	Imagine a bunch of government contractors said, oh, we're going to go make the iPhone.
	They love this analogy, by the way.
	When Apple releases a new piece of software, it's glitchy.
	By the way, any journalist who uses the word glitch again should turn in their journalism credentials.
	I'm waiting and waiting for you to say that because you have bitched about this in email for God knows how long, but you've yet to bring it up on the show.
	I cannot believe that any organization that puts the words news around the description of what they do find it acceptable to use the word glitch.
	I'm not going to argue the point.
	It's true.
	It's just a meaningless term.
	It is totally meaningless, and it is insulting to people who care about why this is happening.
	This is unfixable.
	I know how this works.
	The minute you get all these contractors and, oh, we're going to make this thing, it doesn't work.
	That's not how software...
	Making software is hard.
	It's very, very, very hard.
	They just make it look easy.
	And I pity all these developers who were brought into this.
	Go ahead and look on LinkedIn and see if anyone has...
	Oh, I built a healthcare.gov.
	I bet you no one's putting that on their LinkedIn.
	Healthcare.gov.
	I don't know.
	Let's find out.
	No.
	And this is...
	It's not...
	So...
	What I fear is happening is that it is impossible...
	We're working on the show.
	Yeah, we're trying.
	It is very difficult for our leaders to just admit they have no...
	No one knows what is going on when it comes to this type of project.
	And maybe Vivek and all those guys bailed like, I don't want to have any part of this crap.
	Vivek is a phony.
	I'm out.
	No, they probably all bailed.
	No one said, who do you point to?
	Kathleen Sebelius?
	And this is another thing.
	When there's reporting on PBS, on NPR, on any of the three-letter networks, whenever it's about this complete abortion of a technology project, it's always the medical reporter.
	This is so dumb!
	We need a technologist.
	We need someone who can explain why the technology has gone wrong, why the policy of the technology has gone wrong, and why we need to be very worried about other great ideas that our technologically savvy administration claims to have at their fingertips.
	I have five people that all take credit for healthcare.gov.
	Really?
	You should friend them.
	How does that work?
	I'm going to.
	Well, it's not that easy.
	But I can do in-mail and get a hold of at least one or two.
	They actually admit to it?
	I'm like, yeah, I built that.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, here's one guy who says, I won't mention the names yet.
	I'll talk to him first.
	Let me give you an example.
	When you get an airline reservation.
	Now, by the way, my company in 1993, we helped integrate Continental Airlines ticketing system.
	They had their own ticketing system, competitive to American Airlines at the time.
	Integrate that into the web.
	Flycontinental.com.
	They later bought Continental.com.
	And we actually helped with the pretty pictures, none of the back-end stuff.
	But to this day, when you order plane tickets online, typically, how it works with the bigger carriers, with the legacy systems like, oh, I don't know, healthcare...
	Everything is in all caps.
	There's abbreviations in weird places.
	It's like you pay and then we'll confirm later.
	These are batch processes.
	This is not like some instantaneous beautiful thing.
	This is integrating with IBM mainframes and COBOL, which was never changed.
	You know what I mean?
	It's like everything's all caps.
	Now, we can't do anything but all caps in the world of airlines.
	It's because this is how bad it is.
	Have you ever tried to change a reservation online?
	No, you always wind up having to call in.
	Right.
	They know all the codes.
	Yeah, so all the pretty pictures and everything you see on the front, it's just that.
	And this is not going to turn around.
	And the result, of course, is going to be that you will see reasonably high premiums.
	Everyone's going to get screwed because the insurers aren't going to sign up enough people.
	So the premiums are...
	That's dynamic, by the way.
	So that's all going up.
	With huge, what do you call it, your own deductible.
	You know, $5,000 annual deductible.
	I mean, that's ridiculous.
	No, the whole thing's a fiasco.
	It really is.
	I'm sorry I brought it up.
	No, it's very sad.
	No, it's sad, and I'm angry that no one is asking the right questions about why does this happen, how does it happen, is it fixable, and all we're getting is lip service from your news organizations who call it glitchy.
	Is that even a word in the dictionary?
	Yeah, I think it is.
	I think it's been in there for a while.
	Let me see.
	Glitch.
	Is that G-L-I-T-C-H? Yeah.
	Glitch.
	Let's see what the definition of glitch is.
	Definition of glitch.
	Merriam-Webster okay for you?
	Or do you typically like to use a different...
	I don't really give a crap.
	Merriam-Webster's fine.
	An unexpected and usually minor problem, especially a minor problem with a machine or device.
	Minor malfunction.
	A minor problem.
	So how can you say that with a straight face?
	You don't know any better.
	Alright, change topic.
	Ever since China, was it Baidu?
	Baidu, I think?
	Baidu?
	What about Baidu?
	I think Baidu is accepting Bitcoin.
	Baidu or Alibaba?
	Probably both, but I think Baidu.
	I don't believe this.
	Let me see.
	Hold on.
	I have it here.
	I have it here.
	Let me see.
	Let me get the article.
	There's a couple articles about this.
	Right now, Bitcoin's high today was 185.
	It's on a roll.
	Well, we've got to ask questions about this.
	Okay, here it is.
	Turmoil in global financial markets.
	Recent news of leading global websites accepting Bitcoin may have bolstered enthusiasm for the digital currency, but most interesting may be CNY's definitive recent price leadership.
	That's the Chinese yen, CNY, I presume.
	So, what was it?
	Here we...
	Ongoing campaign...
	Baidu is now accepting Bitcoin for certain services.
	Not hookers.
	Well, but this is very interesting because we pretty much presume that Bitcoin was only usable for Silk Road and some other like renting a server or something.
	And we saw it go down.
	It was 50% lower after the Silk Road roll-up.
	It was a buying opportunity.
	Buying opportunity.
	It bopped up.
	And look at it now.
	So now it just went from $179 to $183.
	Now we're talking about it.
	That's the influence of the show.
	I've got to think that we've always suspected there was something going on here.
	I've got to think that there's...
	I'm going to revise my thinking that this may be a US agency that's running this thing.
	It would be a great idea if you could manage it.
	I think it would be a great idea to do it that way.
	That way you keep tabs on it.
	Because you know that each Bitcoin, as it goes through the system, it actually maintains information of where it came from and what it did.
	Well, that's kind of the beauty of it.
	And all you need to do is just...
	You can't do that with a dollar.
	No.
	All you need to have is just the exchange point.
	Whenever something changes into hard currency, you can trace it all the way back and see where it came from.
	So it's almost kind of by design a great tracking mechanism.
	Yeah.
	So I'm very wary of this.
	It makes no sense.
	That this thing is trading this high based upon the fact that there's nothing to buy with it anymore.
	What are we going to do?
	Every single time there's bad news about Bitcoin, the price goes up.
	Yeah, somebody's supporting it.
	That's my point.
	Yeah, you can do that.
	It looks like the easiest thing in the world to manipulate if you're the guy manipulating it.
	There's still this question about who invented it and all the rest.
	Yeah, it sounds very much like a spy operation.
	Well, I still have about 75 Bitcoin left.
	You're rolling in dough!
	I spent all the rest on Silk Road.
	How much did you spend on Silk Road?
	Yeah, there must have been at least 20 bitcoins.
	Really?
	No.
	Geez.
	Yeah, man.
	I'm surprised you can talk.
	Yeah, man.
	Yeah, welcome to No Agenda.
	That's really groovy, dude.
	If you spent one bitcoin, it would be a shocker.
	Oh, no, I spent a bitcoin.
	That's what I said.
	Yeah.
	No, more than that, actually.
	I probably spent about two and a half bitcoin.
	I was testing it out.
	Here's a funny story that played locally with a bunch of strange kind of built-in memes.
	You know, there's a thing called the dry ice bomb.
	Yeah, this is the thing that was at the L.A. airport recently.
	Yeah, there's a dry ice bomb.
	A dry ice bomb is a...
	It's not really an incendiary device.
	It's not a bomb.
	It's essentially you take a container that's got a screw-top lid, you throw a piece of dry ice in it, and then you close it, and as the dry ice melts, the pressure of the carbon dioxide builds up and usually blows up the container.
	Right.
	And, you know, there's not much to it.
	But the way they make it sound as though it's an actual, you know, improvised explosive device.
	Oops, sorry.
	No, sorry, hit it.
	A second worker at Los Angeles International Airport has now been arrested in connection with the dry ice explosive devices that were found there.
	Earlier this week, two of the devices exploded.
	A third was found that hadn't detonated.
	Los Angeles police say the latest person arrested was a ground service worker who was a supervisor of the first man arrested.
	Fortunately, no one was hurt in the explosions.
	Okay, so this is a broader thing going on here.
	Detonate specifically refers to exothermic reactions.
	Yeah, it's not a detonation whatsoever.
	No, but they use the term freely.
	The whole thing is like, it makes it sound as though there's some danger to these things.
	Yeah, sure, you could take a pack of things with a shitload of dry ice into a container of water, usually, and put some nails and stuff in there.
	It would probably, you know, make a mess.
	But it's not...
	Well, I think there's an overarching theme here.
	It's the war on weapons in general.
	It's a war on fun.
	Mostly dry ice things are used by kids and you throw it into a trash can and then boom, a bunch of garbage flies out.
	There's a report that I've picked up on and these reports are coordinated all over the world.
	And there's a couple of reports from Europe, and it's been going on really for years, but I think now it's going to come down to some legislation, and I think it's time to snap up some stuff while we still can.
	The most recent incidents both involved planes near New York's LaGuardia Airport.
	In one, a Shuttle America plane was on final approach Tuesday night, about six miles from the runway, when a green laser illuminated the plane's cockpit.
	The second incident happened about three hours later.
	A private plane reported a green laser two miles from the airport.
	The Federal Aviation Administration provided this demonstration of what the pilot sees.
	The demonstration, by the way, is really outrageously lame.
	FBI Special Agent in Charge, Rich Frankel.
	It can blur the vision.
	Basically, it can fog the vision of the cockpit when you're looking out the glass so that it's much harder to look out the glass and identify the locations where you're going.
	That's their expert, by the way.
	Yeah, you know, it makes it hard to see where you're going.
	Handheld laser pointers are easily found both online and in office supply stores.
	I just saw a big flash out the window and the captain saw a green light inside the cockpit.
	In 2006, there were 384 cases reported.
	Last year, there were more than 3,400.
	There has been a 17% increase in the last year alone.
	The FBI has now made laser pointing a federal crime.
	Ah!
	That is new!
	Laser pointing is a federal crime, John.
	There you have it.
	And I think it's time to snap up as many of these laser pointers as possible.
	They are, in opposition, as opposed to dry ice, I think they are very effective weapons.
	And some of these 650 milliwatt lasers?
	Well, the big ones, yeah, they're dangerous.
	You can burn stuff.
	Yeah, yeah, blind people.
	Well, no, no, but you can, like, set stuff on fire.
	Yeah, yeah.
	These are great.
	They're great for what?
	For killing ants.
	For putting stuff on fire.
	This ant, let's see, let me give that ant, let him go.
	I'll never forget, and maybe you remember the story, when we were under eminent domain, remember we had moved into the new flat in San Francisco, into the loft, And they started tearing down every building around us.
	Remember that?
	And then all of a sudden they started going 24 hours a day because the city of San Francisco said, oh, that's okay.
	No one living there.
	And in the middle of the night they were wrecking stuff and I took out the laser pointer and I flashed it on one of the construction workers' reflective jackets.
	Do you remember that?
	Yeah, vaguely.
	Then they came up and they were threatening to kill me?
	Yeah.
	They were very upset with that.
	And I have to say, it's a really threatening device.
	You shine that on somebody, it's like, boom!
	So they're outlawed now.
	It's a federal offense.
	Yeah, you'd have been arrested and thrown in the slammer.
	Yeah.
	I think these are going to be outlawed and you should buy them now while stocks last.
	You're going to want to have one of these.
	These are great little devices.
	Tell me you don't have one.
	I have a bunch of them.
	Yeah.
	You have like a really powerful one?
	No, I don't have any of those.
	I don't like having them around the house.
	Really?
	I'd rather have a loaded gun in the house than one of those things.
	So Cory Booker got elected as a senator from New Jersey.
	Yep.
	And his acceptance speech I have here, and I want you to tell me, and listen to it carefully, word for word, and then tell me what it is he said.
	Too many people are forgetting that the lines that divide us are nothing compared to those ties that bind us.
	It forgets, this cynical attitude forgets the idea, that ideal, the truth, that we are all in this together.
	I'm there.
	Wow.
	Okay, the lines that divide us are nothing like the ties that bind us.
	I got that one.
	So in other words, the ways we're more similar is beautiful as to the ways that we hate each other.
	Now you're sounding like him.
	Let me hear that again.
	That the lines that divide us are nothing compared to those ties that bind us.
	Okay, so the lines that divide us are nothing compared to the ties that bind us.
	Compare, not compared.
	Compare.
	Well, it's Corey speak.
	It forgets.
	The cynical attitude forgets.
	The cynical attitude forgets.
	The idea, that ideal, the truth, that we are all in this together.
	Nice.
	And that's a senator?
	Yeah.
	That's great.
	Yeah, another idiot.
	That's great.
	New term in the war on bullying.
	New term, new term, new term.
	We're talking about Maria Kang.
	She's mom to three young children.
	She's also a business owner and a former fitness model.
	Well, she posted this shot on her Facebook page, a picture of herself with her three children, and the caption, What's your excuse?
	Well, it set off a firestorm.
	People have accused Maria Kang of being a bad mom, photoshopping that picture, even bullying.
	A Facebook user named Fiona wrote, quote, please do not assume that your situation is everybody else's.
	Don't fat shame.
	And Maria Kang is joining us now on Skype.
	Fat shaming!
	Don't fat shame!
	Yeah, I actually had that clip a couple of shows ago and we never got to it.
	I never had the fat shaming clip.
	That's fantastic.
	No, the fat shaming thing is new.
	This is a different version of the story.
	And fat shaming, I like.
	I like it.
	Oh, you're fat shaming us.
	And the woman just has a reason.
	She says, what's your excuse?
	And she's got a gorgeous body and she's got three kids and she obviously just works out all the time.
	And she's just bragging about herself and then they give her crap about it.
	So she's now a bully.
	Yeah.
	A fat shamer.
	Everybody's a bully.
	Fat shamer.
	I think that movie, Fem, is a bully movie.
	It bullies anyone who watches it.
	It bullies men.
	When you watch it holding hands on the couch tonight, I want you to think of yourself as being bullied.
	Holding hands?
	One of our producers, I think it's one of our kids in school.
	I have his name here.
	He sent me the bullying circle.
	This is...
	I should have sent...
	I should have emailed this to you.
	The Always Bullying Prevention Program.
	So they have whole programs now in school as a part of, I guess, Common Core or whatever that is intended to...
	Let me just see.
	What's the guy's name?
	It's...
	Ah, crap.
	I don't have his name here.
	So there's students' modes of reaction and roles in an acute bullying situation.
	So imagine a circle, John.
	In the middle of the circle is a dot with a Y in it.
	That is the victim.
	The one who is exposed.
	I'm reading this.
	And then we have a circle around it with little dots A, B, C, D, E, F, and G. A is the bully or bullies who start the bullying and take an active part.
	Then you get B, the followers slash henchmen.
	They have C, the supporters or passive bullies who support the bullying but do not take an active part.
	Then D, the passive supporters and possible bullies.
	They like the bullying, but don't openly display support.
	So they're secret bullies.
	They're bully wannabes.
	Yeah, bully wannabes.
	Then you have E, the disengaged onlookers who watch what happens but do not take a stand.
	And then F, possible defenders who dislike the bullying and think they ought to help but do not.
	So essentially...
	Wait, they left out the one guy?
	There are heroes.
	No!
	I've seen bullying when I was a kid, and there's usually a guy, there's one or two tough guys, usually, who hate the bullies, and when they see them bullying somebody, they come in and start a fight with them and usually beat the crap out of them.
	Where's that guy?
	I don't see him here on the Circle of Bullying.
	And the whole thing is bogus.
	They're not letting the normal dynamics of a social situation actually play itself out.
	They're making this stuff up.
	Well, they have the OLWEUS bullying prevention program.
	O-L-W-E-U-S. Holy crap, I've never heard of this.
	Let's Google this for a second.
	O-L-W-E-U-S. Bullying prevention program.
	Wow.
	This is for real?
	Stopbullying.gov.
	No, no, no.
	Award-winning program for schools and communities.
	They have kits, DVDs, and workbooks.
	Wow.
	Here it is.
	It came out of Clemson.
	What's Clemson?
	The University of Clemson.
	Clemson University is a big school in the ACC. Let's see.
	Bullying Prevention Program.
	Yeah.
	The two of the guys that are shown on this picture, I guarantee, are bullies.
	Yeah.
	Maybe all of them.
	Well, it's a lot of intervention by adults.
	And not a lot of intervention by, you know...
	I agree with you.
	I remember getting bullied from time to time and having one of the big guys step in.
	Usually someone who had been kept back a grade.
	You know, who was older than everybody else and a little quiet.
	Bigger, usually.
	Yeah, bigger.
	And he'd say, hey, stop that.
	And you'd be, like, thankful.
	But then they'd go, like, get off of me, you gnat.
	I just don't like seeing injustice.
	Yeah, we need more of that.
	Yeah, well, they don't talk about that.
	I have a couple of things I'm going to get to on the Thursday show.
	I want to mention we still want to talk about the meme going around the UK about the 800,000 lonely.
	Yeah, I heard that on NPR as well.
	I've got a couple of things.
	I'm doing a little research.
	I'm finding one of the people that was involved with the early studies done when this began, which is actually 2010, And the one thing that I found weird was the meme because I did some meme searching where you take a big chunk of text and throw it into Google and see where it starts to show up.
	And the one I did was the 15 cigarettes a day.
	You know, being lonely is the same for your health as smoking 15 cigarettes a day, which I found somewhat ironic as they were discussing this with 90-year-old women.
	It was like, wow, how do you live that long smoking 15 cigarettes a day?
	And I'll discuss this in more detail because I have one specific contact who went on vacation from one of the universities who was actually partly responsible, I think, for some of these early memes that were picked up by the British.
	And I'll discuss it on Thursday.
	Okay, it's the chronic loneliness was the meme.
	Chronic loneliness, I guess.
	Alright, the only thing I want to wrap up for you today with is a report which, actually the Daily Beast found the stenographer's husband, Diane Reidy.
	Remember the stenographer who...
	Oh yeah, the crazy stenographer that was obviously blasted from some beam and freaked out and went on the stage.
	Well, would you like to know what their story is after they found her husband and interviewed him?
	Of course!
	I think that's the way to end the show.
	Okay, so her husband is the 54-year-old pastor, Dan Reidy, R-E-I-D-Y, and he says that in weeks leading up to this, she had, at night, repeatedly been awakened by the Holy Spirit and urged to deliver a message on the house floor.
	And he said that she kept waking up in the middle of the night, here just waking several times at night, feeling that God's just been pressing on her to open a Bible and get into His Word, and she just couldn't take it anymore.
	And when she saw the vote, and I actually, forget the religion stuff, she saw what was going on, and this is a rather long article, but it's worth reading, essentially people making deals, All on the back of the shutdown, and everybody lying, everybody just in it for their own personal gain, mainly.
	And then when they did the vote, they're all hugging the people who had pretended to hate each other, the people who pretended to like each other.
	Everyone has false face.
	Everyone's just a huge, phony liar.
	And according to her husband, she snapped.
	And she just couldn't take it any longer as a God-fearing religious woman.
	It's a great story.
	It's a beautiful story.
	And she just cracked.
	And if you listen to what she said...
	Where, you know, this is not one...
	There are a lot of people in America who are religious and believe in God, so, you know, she's one of them, and then she says, hey, this is not one nation indivisible under God.
	This is bullcrap.
	And the Holy Spirit told her to say it.
	Because she just couldn't take it anymore.
	And if you look at the sequence of the vote, and then she's standing there and she's seeing like, you don't know who it is because it's hard to see in this wide shot on C-SPAN. I think she just went, oh my god, these guys, all they did is they just played a joke.
	Basically, she's like us.
	Where she saw the bull crap, but instead of getting a podcast, she decided to get arrested.
	Get a podcast, get arrested.
	Do one or the other.
	I mean, you really, you gotta make a choice in life, don't you?
	A beautiful story.
	I still like the extremely low frequency beam into our Abilify better, but I'll take this as an explanation, and I understand it.
	I think there's a lot of people in America who feel the same way.
	And maybe not just in America.
	Gitmo Nation.
	It's possible you feel the same way.
	And we're here to help you understand why you feel crappy about it, so you can feel better, have a laugh about it.
	That's right.
	That's what we do.
	If you didn't chuckle at least once today, please never come back to this program.
	If you did, consider giving us some value at Dvorak.org slash NA. Oh, are you on Tweet today?
	Yeah, I am, as a matter of fact.
	Good, good, good, good.
	I feel like watching.
	That'll be fun.
	Coming to you from the Travis Heights hideout, where I've got at least one powerful laser pointer.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back with you on Thursday.
	Remember us, Dvorak.org slash NA, and we'll be back here on No Agenda.
	Adios, mofo.
	Too many people are forgetting that the lines that divide us are nothing compared to those ties that bind us.
	It forgets, this cynical attitude forgets the idea, that ideal, the truth, that we are all in this together.
	Bullshit!
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