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	And she found that she was the spawn of Satan.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, October 17th, 2013.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 557.
	This is no agenda.
	Running the sick bay here in the Travis Heights hideout in the capital of the Drone Star State.
	We are in Austin Tejas.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where if you didn't take the garbage out, it's too late.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
	Now there's a train going by.
	Well, what happens?
	Carbass trucks, trains.
	Dance the ghetto.
	Beep, beep, beep, beep.
	We live in the ghetto, man.
	Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
	Hey, man, stuff is bad here at the Travis Heights hideout.
	What happened?
	Miss Mickey is not well.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	Let me close the window.
	Yeah, that'll help her.
	Does she feel better now?
	Let me check.
	Yes.
	Instantaneous results.
	Now she's got some weird kind of flu, man.
	This is not good.
	Oh, you guys should load it up on vitamin D3 when you have the chance.
	Yeah, but this is a weird one where she has kind of like a semi-dry cough.
	Actually, it's less like a flu and more like one of your favorite afflictions.
	Which is?
	Spontaneous human combustion.
	She hasn't blowed up yet.
	She's getting pretty close.
	She runs a little fever now and then, but then in the middle of the night she'll be like, I'll just throw off all, everything has to go, and she's like, everything's too hot, everything's too hot.
	And you feel her legs and her body is just, like, keep the gasoline away.
	Yeah.
	So, I don't know.
	It's a weird kind of flu.
	It sounds like it could be one of those crazy funguses or something that you have in these desert areas.
	You mean it could be more like a...
	It's like valley fever here in California?
	I have no idea what valley fever is.
	Oh, you should look it up.
	A lot of Californians, and especially people that weren't raised in California, can get this thing called valley fever.
	And it's from the dust that when you have certain times of the year when all the climate changes, it blows the...
	Well, climate changes.
	It changes during the year.
	Oh, okay.
	Just the regular climate change.
	Yes, of course.
	And the wind is all of a sudden blowing out of the Central Valley.
	It brings us these spores...
	Into San Francisco Bay Area, for example, from like Fresno, and you get these things in your lungs, and next thing you know, you get funguses growing inside, and you end up with this flu-like symptoms.
	It's called valley fever, and it's really a son of a bitch to get rid of.
	Yeah, well, we have cedar here in Austin, which I don't think is hit yet, and I know that gets to her, but these are different symptoms.
	She'll be okay, but it's...
	Does she have a fever?
	Yeah, she's running a fever.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And she's funny, though.
	She's been in bed since Tuesday.
	Is she a good sick person or a grumpy sick person?
	No, she's a great sick person.
	That's a plus.
	Sometimes she likes to get away from her.
	Some people are bad sick.
	No, she's really good.
	I feel horrible.
	I feel inadequate.
	I don't know what else I can do.
	And what's I got to do with this?
	Yeah, thank you.
	However, she does say funny things, man.
	You mean while hallucinating?
	Yes.
	So she says, I have a dastardly flu.
	I'm like, what?
	Yeah, yeah.
	On Facebook, one of my doctor friends says the flu I have is dastardly flu.
	Dastardly flu.
	And I said, you're so sweet, honey.
	You're European.
	You just never heard of this word because it's not used enough.
	But dastardly flu is not like a version of swine.
	It's a description.
	It's an adjective.
	And she was all bummed out.
	She's like, what?
	I thought I had some awesome flu that no one had heard of.
	Dastardly flu.
	Like the dastardly Egyptian flu or something.
	And that's what one of her doctor buddies had put.
	And the whole Facebook thing when she's delirious is kind of interesting.
	Because she'd be like, look, honey, here's a video of dolphins clapping.
	It's sad because I don't want to laugh at her.
	She's ill.
	Why not?
	It's pretty bad.
	It's sad.
	It's bad.
	This is no good.
	The household falls apart immediately.
	Nothing works.
	I don't know what to do.
	Clean the dishes.
	That's what you do.
	I do that.
	I throw it in the machine and everything.
	It's just like, ugh.
	Oh, my goodness.
	And we missed out on so many great O-Bot opportunities because we had a whole bunch of things planned.
	Oh, that's a shame.
	Oh, yeah, like a dinner tonight.
	Oh, tonight would have been great because they'd be gloating.
	Yes.
	Yes, indeed, they would be gloating.
	And I'm glad you bring that up.
	But first, let me thank you for your courage, John.
	I want to thank you for your courage, Adam.
	This has become the meme du jour on No Agenda.
	Yeah, we change.
	It changes from year to year.
	It's weird, though.
	This one just took hold.
	I think we only use it once or twice on the show, and every email I get starts with, thank you for your courage.
	And it feels good.
	I think we need to say this to each other more often, just in general life, just in passing.
	You might as well just make everything meaningless.
	You know when I get one of those solicitors on the street, the ones that I hate, the opinion solicitors?
	And I'm always pretty good at coming up with, you know, when they, hey, would you like to...
	I hate animals!
	Would you like to save the whales?
	No, I hate them.
	I think I'll start off by, oh, thank you for your courage.
	See what that does to them.
	That's a great idea, when somebody comes up to you like that.
	Hey, can I ask you a...
	But I'd rather not.
	Thank you for your courage, but I'd rather not.
	Which is kind of like a veiled threat at the same time.
	I like it.
	I like it.
	I'm not from these parts.
	Today is the story...
	Monday, I guess.
	Maybe, no, maybe?
	When did this go into effect?
	It's so hard to tell anymore.
	We're going to get to the shutdown bull crap, which, of course, as predicted, right on time, in the nick of time, with the same script that Boehner used on the...
	What was it?
	The last time we had some crisis.
	It was the same thing.
	He couldn't get the vote, and then the plan B didn't work.
	Boehner's just playing along with the Tea Party guys to show them that they can't win.
	He plays the game.
	I think Boehner's doing a pretty good job of it.
	He bluffs.
	They passed as great.
	Did you see the thing where they...
	Oh, I didn't clip it.
	I should have clipped it.
	The Republicans slipped one through on the Democrats, which has irked the hell out of a couple of them, where you can't bring anything to the House to the floor unless it's pre-approved by Boehner.
	Well, you know, we talked about that on the last show.
	I don't remember.
	Yeah, but it only pertained to...
	Yeah, this crisis.
	Yeah, well, not just the crisis, but the Obamacare funding of the crisis, quote-unquote crisis.
	So it was only to one little bit.
	But really, when you look at the whole...
	I mean, here's the analysis...
	We should explain.
	Before we go on...
	No, no.
	This is exactly...
	I'm going to set you up for this because I know what you're going to say.
	The analysis that...
	Yeah, I think I do.
	I think it's almost been six years, John.
	Come on.
	I know every nook and cranny of your body, honey.
	I know exactly where you're coming from.
	I resent that.
	Okay.
	The analysis that no one has given is how the process actually works and who was really holding up who.
	And I don't know anyone better than our very own constitutional law professor, John C. Dvorak, the C stands for cash, who can explain the process and why it really was, it's always been the Senate, it's been the Senate from day one, not the House of Representatives.
	Okay.
	Yeah, no, that's true.
	I didn't intend on that.
	I wanted to do the wrap-up that I recorded.
	No, no, you can get to that, but you have to explain what it is first, because people don't understand how their government works.
	To simplify it, I'm not really in the mood to do this, but I'll tell you this.
	To simplify it, all money that is spent by the government is called out by Congress.
	Congress is the holder of the purse strings.
	Yeah.
	And they do a lot of stuff.
	Hold on, this is important.
	We've got to stop at this, because this is the power of the purse, which I think is Section 1, Article 1, Section 8, I believe, from the Constitution.
	We don't have the Constitution in front of you.
	Well, the Constitution specifically states that the House of Representatives can decide which pieces of the government to fund, and I believe that is, in particular, their function if it is a taxation, right?
	Right.
	Well, yes, specifically.
	They're the ones who find ways to get the money and how to spend it.
	They're the ones who say, here's the money we got, here's how we're going to spend it.
	Generally speaking, it's called the budget.
	And the Congress, you know, the House and the Senate work together on this at some point, even though the House has got, you know, supposedly supposed to do most of the work, and the Senate's supposed to be a rubber stamp.
	And then the president has to sign off on it.
	Or not sign off.
	He doesn't have to sign it.
	And if he doesn't sign it, like this is what happened this time.
	They had a budget.
	It was fine.
	And they had decided to just leave the Obamacare funding out, which is fine, too.
	They can do that.
	It's been done before.
	But everyone went through, oh, the law of the land, the law of the land.
	Now, let me ask you a question.
	The way I understand it is they can pass on a bill about motorcycle rear tires.
	And the Senate can take that bill, rip it all out, they have the right to do that, and put in anything they want, which they've done in the past.
	They could have written their own...
	Their own law, their own bill, their own fund.
	The house still has to approve it.
	But they still could have done that at any point.
	They could have passed any piece they wanted to.
	Any piece.
	But at the end of the day, the two houses have to approve the final product.
	Right.
	Okay.
	So you can do whatever you want.
	I'm saying it's not just one side that is keeping stuff up.
	No, the House had done a bill.
	It was completed.
	It was weeks and weeks ago.
	It was way before the shutdown.
	And it was pretty much the budget, what everybody kind of wanted.
	But it had one thing in there.
	It was that we're not going to pay for this Obamacare thing, which was not an unusual thing.
	If people had read my news, or your news, our newsletter that was done in...
	Oh, it's okay.
	It's your newsletter now.
	Well, my newsletter is on Saturday.
	I see the writing on the wall.
	That's how it always starts.
	Yeah, right.
	So anyway, the newsletter has a link to a very good column by Sowell.
	Yes, I actually put it in the show notes under shutdown.
	Very good to read.
	It's very simple.
	And they had the bill written, but Obama wasn't going to buy into this.
	And he apparently, he called their bluff, essentially.
	Obama said, I'm not going to demon talk.
	It's my way or the highway, which is what the Republicans always said.
	But you know what he did?
	He did.
	He called her blood and he won.
	And he saved the world.
	And so now everyone thinks he's a big hero and in fact he was a divider.
	Yes.
	He's a fighter, not a lover.
	And he saved the world.
	He saved the world, John.
	He pulled us back from the brink once again.
	Save the world?
	The guy's amazing.
	You know me, I like to go read these things, so this is...
	Oh God, this has got to be the worst thing to read.
	H.R. 2775.
	Well, of course they slipped a lot of things in here.
	Oh yeah, in fact, I understand.
	I know.
	That's what they always do.
	But there was a big one here for Mitch McConnell.
	Yeah, Mitch McConnell snuck a beauty in.
	Like a $2 billion increase in some damn project in his hometown or whatever.
	But the way they did it is so that it wouldn't look like he slipped it in.
	The deal they made is that Pelosi and Reid said, no, no, we put that in because if we canceled out that project, it would cost the American taxpayer like $106 million.
	Or we couldn't have that, so what was a $700 million project was now up to like a $2.9 billion project.
	So I think McConnell, he was really good at this.
	He got exactly what he wanted.
	And he had the top Democrats admit that they put in a shilling for him.
	Yes, it's great.
	These guys are such a-holes.
	Grade A, number one, top of the class douchebag.
	In fact, I got a douchebag.
	It's unbelievable what this show comes down to.
	It's just money for their own crap.
	You want to...
	I want you to answer this question.
	There's a bunch of this.
	The shutdown cost Americans $25 billion, the shutdown.
	That's just numbers being thrown out.
	No one can quantify that.
	You lay everybody off in a building.
	You've got a building, right?
	It costs so much to run it.
	You fire everybody in the building and shut the power off.
	Now it's costing you more than if you were running the building?
	No, I know.
	This is what people fall for with this bullcrap number.
	I'm not falling for it.
	No, you're not people.
	I'm telling you, where does this come from?
	Because it's a lie.
	In fact, right at the top here, Section 115 of the settlement ensures furloughed employees are compensated and ratifies obligations made during the shutdown similar to language used in past shutdowns.
	Past shows, they should say.
	So as you predicted, it was a nice paid vacation.
	Maybe it was a little unnerving because you sit at home like, oh, crap, man, what's going to happen?
	I'm not going to support the No Agenda show.
	I've got to save my money.
	So there was some of that, but now everyone gets back pay.
	The effective date for this joint resolution is backdated.
	This is one of my favorite things.
	They backdated to October 1st.
	I guess that makes all of the...
	There must be something.
	Oh, that's got to be a financial thing.
	There's something going on there.
	There's an authorization for the Food for Peace Act, which I haven't gotten into, but it looks like a lot of fun.
	Extends authority for activities to counter the Lord's Resistance Army and non-conventional assisted recovery.
	Okay, now there was a hundred guys for the Lord's Resistance Army last time we were told about it.
	This is the whole Coney thing.
	And so now we had to put this into...
	I forgot about him.
	Yeah, we had to put this clause in for a hundred guys?
	That stinks.
	So, you know, we have to look into that.
	Let's see.
	What else was annoying?
	There was a lot of just annoying things.
	Extends authority for the Chemical Facilities Anti-Terrorism Standards Program.
	There's a lot of new things that come in here.
	That's a lot of...
	I wish somebody would start dissecting this is what you do best.
	You've got to just...
	Every day we should pound on this.
	There's tons of crap like this in there.
	So they wasted everybody's time, put everyone through a ringer, made everyone fret and made the old ladies worry about their pensions and all the rest of it for this crap that they put together with all these bullshit things in there like the Coney 2012.
	Listen to this.
	Listen to this.
	This is a good one.
	This is a payoff right here.
	Extends authority for the Secret Service to apply proceeds from undercover investigations.
	In other words, if the Secret Service finds you with a hooker and some counterfeit bills, they can put both into service for them.
	Extends authority for, quote, other transaction contracting agreements for the Department of Homeland Security.
	Yeah, no, that's not suspicious.
	It's, you know, this is, these things are, oh, have you ever heard of COLA? I had to look this one up.
	Prohibits COLA for members of Congress for fiscal year 2014.
	I'm like, wow, man, that's harsh.
	They can't even have a Coke.
	But apparently COLA COLA, that's right, it's their salary increase.
	Yeah, they gotta get that.
	No, they don't.
	It prohibits.
	Prohibits.
	Oh, good.
	About time.
	Yeah, that's a good thing.
	They'll find some other scam.
	Don't worry.
	They're not gonna starve to death, these guys.
	Oh, no.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	So, let me just...
	There it is.
	Let me just roll out...
	I got three things and I want you to wrap it up.
	And I want to start by saying one thing.
	I am of the belief...
	How's that for a performative?
	I do believe...
	And I am of the belief systems that I want my state representative In, you know, arguing for my state.
	So this is a good thing.
	And I'm not necessarily against a lot of these things that are put in here.
	You know, Mitch McConnell, good on you, man.
	You got $3 billion for your state, you know, whatever project you're going to do.
	For your boys.
	For your boys.
	And good on!
	That's whatever it is going on.
	Good on.
	Good on ya.
	Good on ya.
	I don't see anything for Texas in here.
	But I'm okay with...
	That's your Ted Cruz guy.
	Yeah, that sucks.
	I don't see anything in here.
	By the way, that guy's getting on my nerves.
	Yeah.
	Didn't he say he was going to the White House?
	He thinks he's going to be president or something?
	That'd be funny.
	He has the same chance as Rick Santorum.
	He is not an appealing person.
	He's condescending.
	He's pompous.
	He's a douche.
	He's a douche.
	So what I don't like is all these federal programs and stuff for the Secret Service and Homeland Security that is unspecified and I have to go and figure out what that is.
	That part I find extremely annoying.
	I'm okay with your state's representatives trying to get what's best for your state because at the end of the day...
	We're not a country.
	We're not united.
	I live in Texas, man.
	I saw a bumper sticker the other day.
	Y'all can go to hell, and I'm going to go to Texas.
	That's exactly right.
	Here's two quick things.
	Now, I want you to hear how this was being...
	For people...
	This is 30 seconds.
	For people who do not live in the United States of Gitmo Nation, and this was coming down to the wire as they were trying to scare people...
	And of course, if you listen to No Agenda Show, you just sat back and relaxed and you knew that it would all get taken care of at the last minute, as happened, as promised.
	Here's MSNBC. This is Thomas Roberts.
	This is how he talks to...
	This is...
	Marsha Blackburn, I think she must be a Republican, about the shutdown.
	It was just not okay.
	When it comes to Obamacare, do you hate Obamacare more than you love your country?
	I gotta tell you something.
	I think that comments like that that you were making are just incredibly inappropriate.
	What we have to realize is that the CR... You don't think it's incredibly inappropriate to shut down our government and to take all the hostages of Americans that you've taken?
	No, no, no.
	It's not inappropriate.
	Because you've taken the government hostage through a shutdown, and all the American people, you're now walking them to a cliff, the economy, and you're going to push them over one by one based on the fact that you don't like the ACA. That's all it is.
	You don't like the affordable care.
	Listen to yourself.
	Yes!
	I mean, she's right.
	These guys on MSN, this is why this network is starting to fall apart.
	Oh yeah, no, this is dumb.
	This is not entertainment.
	You're just propaganda and people are even dumb people.
	At least on Fox when they propagandize you, it's entertaining.
	Yes, and they've got better looking legs.
	This guy got no legs.
	Well yeah, they got legs.
	Here's Debbie Wasserman Schultz who said to me an unbelievable thing.
	On the Morning Joe show.
	Again, MSNBC. And she was there with Peter King.
	I guess she was in the studio.
	Peter King was on the remote box.
	Peter King's Republican, right?
	I'm going to guess.
	I can't remember.
	He's like a douche.
	Yeah, he's one of the worst.
	He's also the biggest Muslim baiter.
	So Debbie Wasserman Schultz, she is in charge of the Democratic Party.
	She's the chair person.
	And she said something I found to be very interesting, although right in line with MSNBC viewers who love this idea.
	You brought up a concept that you've been talking about with Republican women.
	Tell Peter, and let's see if he agrees, about how this could be solved.
	So, Peter, if we put all the women, Republican and Democrat, in the House together, the consensus from all of us is that we would get this done in a few hours.
	Peter?
	So, she just said, if it was up to the women, then we'd have this done in a few hours.
	Yeah, it's a sexist pig thing to say.
	Yeah!
	This, by the way, was not only her saying it.
	There was a bunch of people saying this meme.
	This meme came out.
	And then when the thing was finally finished in the Senate, and because Susan Collins was involved along with a woman from Alaska, two women, they took credit as women.
	For doing this.
	And so this has become kind of a meme that the women, if we elect more women, this is just obviously, you know, an attempt to get more women elected.
	If we elect more women, we won't have these problems because these men, which brings me to another point that I'll be making later in the show.
	Okay, bookmark that.
	Peter King had a good comeback.
	He was ready for it.
	Oh, that's...
	Well, I don't know.
	I think you should put Sarah Palin in there also.
	That would really...
	Let's make a hot-looking woman from Alaska as the brunt of this joke.
	What do you say to that, Debbie Washerman Schultz?
	You know, I would argue that even if Sarah Palin were in the room, that we could find a way to get to yes.
	You made a funny...
	Let's just take a cheap shot at Sarah Palin.
	...about Sarah Palin.
	That's usually women's gold.
	Peter, how do we get to me?
	You're all douche knuckles.
	And by the way, I hope, I hope, I hope, I hope, I hope, I pray, I pray to my God, Lucifer, that Hillary Clinton becomes president.
	I cannot wait.
	How much coffee have you had today?
	Actually, I've only had one cup because...
	Why?
	Do I need to calm down?
	You're wild, wound up.
	Well, I'm excited because there's all kinds of stuff that I can ask you about.
	Play the crisis rap so we can get rid of this topic.
	I don't know if we're going to get rid of it.
	...under the Budget Control Act.
	This is far less than many of us had hoped for, frankly.
	But it's far better than what some had sought.
	The framework came from a bipartisan group of 14 senators led by Republican Susan Collins of Maine.
	This great country deserves a Congress that can govern.
	And that was the unifying theme of our group.
	The agreement they worked out funds government operations for three months at reduced spending levels already in place, and it raises the debt ceiling through February 7th.
	The deal also calls for a congressional panel to negotiate a long-term deficit reduction package, and it requires that Americans verify incomes to qualify for subsidies under the new health care law.
	That was the sole section related to Obamacare after Republicans spent weeks trying to block or delay parts of the law.
	Last month, Texas Senator Ted Cruz, a leading Tea Party conservative, filibustered over the issue.
	Today, he said he'd vote no, but would not try to delay action.
	I have no objections to the timing of this vote, and the reason is simple.
	There's nothing to be gained from delaying this vote one day or two days.
	The outcome will be the same.
	Every senator, every member of the House is going to have to make a decision where he or she stands.
	Arizona Republican John McCain, meanwhile, had opposed the shutdown, and he voiced relief today.
	I think it's obvious that we are now seeing the end of this agonizing odyssey that this body has been put through, but far more importantly, the American people have been put through.
	It's one of the more shameful chapters that I have seen in the years that I've spent here in the Senate.
	No, please.
	Every year you've been in is shame.
	He is the definition of...
	Bullshit!
	That's the definition of shameful, that guy right there.
	That guy's horrible.
	What an idiot.
	And, you know, of course, this will only take us to, what, February 1st, I think?
	Yeah, I know, that's the joke of it.
	Yeah, so it's like, to be continued.
	We'll do a whole new, there'll be Series 5, Episode 1, all over again, exclusively on, if they could just move it to Netflix.
	And just take it off cable news so he don't...
	You know, if you're trading stocks...
	Here he goes.
	Screw stocks!
	Mitch McConnell got $2 billion for his state!
	You want more action, not less!
	No, no, no.
	Yes, okay.
	That's for the peons in the game, John, but the real players?
	Because, make no mistake, Harry Reid's state also benefits from this dam.
	The real players are in construction, yo!
	Yo?
	Yo.
	I'm sorry.
	That's a Breaking Bad thing.
	I have to stop doing that.
	I'd say.
	So here's my...
	All right.
	Hold on a second.
	All right.
	Let me explain.
	Every six to eight weeks, seven or eight weeks, but I made it rain early, Mickey and I have a massage.
	We have a masseuse come to the house.
	Whoa!
	She's actually a...
	There goes the donations.
	Yeah, right.
	Do you have a hair cutter come to the house too?
	No.
	So it's six or eight weeks.
	A makeup artist show up before you go to dinner with the bots?
	She answers the phones at Mickey's chiropractor's office and moonlights doing massage.
	Do you wear makeup yourself when you go to visit the Obama bots?
	No.
	Do you put a little makeup on, a little powder?
	No.
	What does this have to do with a massage?
	I figured you'd have the makeup artist come over and a bunch of lights and people directing.
	I carry her bed in from the trunk of her Honda.
	Okay.
	This is not like a high...
	Oh, she spends the night?
	I'm a massage person.
	Oh, never mind.
	I'll just drop the subject.
	I get it.
	She, by the way, is very funny.
	She's from New Zealand and she's been here six years.
	She just recently got divorced conveniently after her five-year period of having a green card.
	But she's a New Zealand girl, and she finds it very hard to understand.
	In New Zealand, in general, I'm going to generalize, women who have casual sex because they want it and it makes them feel good are seen as independent, strong-willed women.
	In America, they're seen as sluts.
	Sluts and whores.
	Sluts and whores.
	And so she was like, I don't understand this.
	I'm sorry, that was my John Lennon.
	I can't do with the New Zealand accent.
	It's not that easy.
	No, it's not.
	She said it's really hard to understand because in New Zealand, it's very normal to have a nail and bale or a fucking chuck.
	And she's rolling on all these accents.
	I'm like, whoa.
	What?
	A nail and bale?
	What a fucking chuck.
	A nail and bail.
	I know.
	So anyway, she tells these stories, and she's very entertaining.
	She's really, really funny.
	And then I said, but what do you want to be when you grow up?
	And you know what her answer was?
	A massage therapist.
	Scaffolding.
	She wants to be...
	And like scaffolding...
	That makes sense.
	This is why this comes back to the construction.
	She says right now in New Zealand, because of the big earthquakes they had...
	Remember the really big one in Christchurch and surrounding area and they've had a couple of follow-ons.
	The government has all scaffolding in place.
	There's no more scaffolding in New Zealand.
	So no one can build anything because all the scaffolding has been slurped up by the government and is outside of government buildings, etc.
	And she's like, this is the business.
	And morons can put it together.
	I'm in!
	The Curry-Dvorak Investment Group hedge fund are in.
	Scaffolding.
	Scaffolding.
	Anyway.
	Onward.
	Sorry about the sidetrack.
	Obama...
	As he announced this deal, threw out the largest performative I have ever seen him give, which I wanted to share.
	And as you know, we have learned from performatives that when a politician, most likely, but anyone, is about to give you a load of crap and is going to purposely lie, but without lying because he only is referring back to the performative that he uses, then it's pretty much all bullcrap and it's a lie.
	I'll give an example.
	Please.
	In fact, let me say this about that.
	Exactly.
	You've done it already.
	So you're just saying something.
	You're not stating anything is true or even as a belief of yours.
	And so everything after that refers to what I just said, which is let me say this about that.
	Everybody's crazy.
	I mean, and then you can...
	Right.
	It's got nothing to do with anything.
	No.
	What you say.
	So the president...
	So the lie is that he wants to work with everybody and he'll do anything necessary and he wants to help the people and save the children and make the world a better place.
	That's the lie, but he sets it up beautifully with actually a Bill Clinton-esque performative.
	Immediately.
	And we can begin to lift this cloud of uncertainty and unease from our businesses and from the American people.
	I'll have more to say about this tomorrow, and I've got some thoughts about how we can move forward in the remainder of the year and stay focused on the job at hand.
	Because there's a lot of work ahead of us.
	Stand by.
	Including our need to earn back the trust of the American people that's been lost over the last few weeks.
	And we can begin to do that by addressing the real issues that they care about.
	Alright, so here it comes.
	Get ready.
	I've said it before.
	I'll say it again.
	Wow!
	That's a Clinton one.
	That's what Clinton, that's what Reagan even said.
	I said it before and I'll say it again.
	I'm willing to work with anybody.
	I am eager to work with anybody.
	Democrat or Republican, House or Senate members.
	On any idea that we'll grow our economy, create new jobs, strengthen the middle class, and get our fiscal house in order.
	Bullshit!
	So clearly you don't mean that.
	I said it before, I'll say it again.
	Please.
	That's so insulting.
	At this point, that's just insulting to the no agenda audience.
	Oh, yeah, our group understands that.
	And then, of course, we had something crazy happen.
	And I knew it was going to happen.
	I knew something was up.
	I knew the signs were everywhere when Senator Barb...
	What's her name again?
	McCluskey?
	McCluskey, Senator Barb, this old bag of wind, throws out not once, not twice, but three times, as is perfect for the magic number.
	Thank you very much, Mr.
	President.
	I rise then to speak for approximately ten minutes.
	Objection.
	Mr.
	President, we're 33 hours away.
	There it is once.
	From the possible default of the United States of America on its debt obligations.
	We're 33 hours away from the possibility of the United States of America becoming a deadbeat nation, not paying its bills to its own people and other creditors.
	When do I get my bills paid by my own government?
	Wait, one more, one more, one more.
	We're 33 hours away.
	He just doesn't stop.
	So the code was important because there was a bond trade that you could have made because just before they passed all this stuff, I was watching Bloomberg and there was some guy on one of the trading desk guys and he had this computer up and he showed this spike On one of these, there was some bond in particular that would have been, the way he said, this is the bond that would be most affected.
	So it collapsed because it would be if the government defaulted supposedly, even though we know it wouldn't have really done anything.
	But if there was some situation that occurred, this was the one bond that would have not been paid out.
	And right after she dropped her 33-33-33, if you had gone short on that bond and then gone long on that bond within a one hour period, you would have probably made about 5 to 10x your money.
	Wait a minute, how did you hear about this?
	And more importantly, why did we not act on this?
	This is the problem that the two of us have.
	Cash flow?
	We're really good at Monday morning quarterbacking sitting on the couch.
	You know, we could have made a lot of money on that one.
	We could have been in on that.
	Yeah, this is quite the problem.
	Yes.
	Well, I took it differently, although I appreciate that analysis.
	And if there's any links I can throw into the show notes at 557.nashownotes.com, I'd love to do that.
	And maybe you can send me something.
	We've got a lot of smart people who listen who might be able to figure something out and help get us in early.
	Well, there's another opportunity coming up at the end of the year.
	Yeah.
	Where this will all play out again.
	All over again.
	A couple of investments that you can turn around real fast.
	You've got to be going on your toes so you can't be sitting around.
	You can't be working.
	Can't be watching C-SPAN or something.
	At McDonald's and expect to actually pull this off.
	But if you're sitting at the terminal, you could probably make some serious money really fast.
	I've always thought that if I gave up everything I do and only focused on like a level two screen and I just sat at home and really played...
	I've always thought I could do it.
	Have you ever felt that you could really do it if you just did nothing else?
	People can't do it.
	A friend of mine actually does it.
	He used to be a publisher and he used to have all these...
	He worked for a living and now all he does is day trade.
	And essentially, it's like...
	I think I must have brought this up before.
	It's like the guy I knew...
	He used to be an HP engineer.
	I knew him pretty well years ago.
	And he was a professional poker player.
	And he says even the most mediocre player, typically, and most poker players, professional poker players, make about $125,000 a year playing poker all the time.
	The problem is you have to be playing poker all the time.
	All the time, right, right.
	You're essentially just professionally playing poker all the time.
	And that's the same thing.
	This doesn't sound like a lot of fun for $125,000.
	If it was $125 million, yeah, I could see you doing it.
	Because you like playing poker, you can make $125,000, he says.
	And I think the guy who's playing the stock market is probably doing okay.
	But it's not a fun thing to do.
	Yeah, but at the same time...
	This show is more fun.
	Oh no, this show is a lot more fun, even if we don't make poker money.
	But if I was playing the market, you're still you're kind of doing a little bit of what we do for the show anyway.
	You can do a little bit of that.
	You have to.
	But since the market's rigged, is what everybody who plays the market tells you.
	Right.
	It makes it difficult unless you're kind of part of some scheme or you're, you know, in the mob and you're part of a pump and dumper.
	Or you get some sort of insight or you're part of Congress.
	Yeah, you've got to be on this.
	I know Annie Duke.
	She used to live near us when we lived in Los Angeles.
	And I had her up to the house a couple of times because she'd released books.
	I had the big book show.
	I was doing it actively.
	And I always looked at her because she was one of these people.
	She plays poker.
	In fact, she started the Poker League, I believe.
	I have no idea where that is.
	And the whole idea is to sell television rights or control rights over poker playing on TV. And she has the potential to be super hot, but she just looks ragged from the poker play.
	It's just looking at her like, girl, you know, you've got some real potential.
	Room sitting on your butt.
	And her butt was the thing that was the biggest problem.
	Like, you've got to get off of that butt, girl.
	Damn.
	No, that's not a business I'd want to be in.
	Anyway, I took this 33 as a warning for something weird to happen, and boy did it ever, right near the end of this vote.
	I wanted to show you the comments of the President.
	Also...
	This is from C-SPAN. You may have seen at the very end of the vote that a woman came to the dais and was speaking.
	The mics were off.
	Those mics are controlled by the House Radio and TV Gallery.
	The microphones were off.
	But here's the reporting of Jamie Dupree from Cox Radio on that issue.
	He says one of the House stenographers had to be taken off the floor...
	After getting up and screaming during the vote, we'll update that story as we are.
	So I look at this, and I have two pieces of audio to play, and they don't match up, which is the infuriating thing.
	There was an NPR reporter who I guess he has his own control over things.
	Because he started tweeting a SoundCloud file that says, oh my god, I've recorded this woman's crazy rant.
	So first I'll play the audio, the wild audio.
	Where the Madam President is gaveling this woman to get her to try to shut up.
	So she's just hammering away and this lady's yelling.
	You can't really hear what she's saying.
	But the audio that the NPR guy recorded doesn't have any of the gaveling in it.
	So here's the wild audio first.
	He will not be mocked.
	He will not be mocked.
	Don't touch me.
	He will not be mocked.
	The greatest deception here is this is not one nation under God.
	It never was.
	Had it been, it would not have been.
	I'm sorry, this is actually the wild audio.
	It sounds like she's no longer in the house.
	It sounds like she's in the hallway.
	And her name is supposedly Denise.
	But I think someone calls her Molly at some point.
	No.
	It would not have been.
	The Constitution would not have been written by Freemasons.
	They go against God.
	You cannot serve two masters.
	You cannot serve two masters.
	Praise be to God, Lord Jesus Christ.
	Praise be to God.
	I'm thinking she got one of those emails about Satan or something.
	She's like...
	Wife swappers.
	Yeah.
	She refuses to take part.
	So this is not the same audio as what happens here.
	This has got nothing to do with the 33.
	I'm telling you, the 33 is a coded message for people to go along.
	I'm already there.
	I'm just saying that something happened and we've moved on.
	We've moved on from a meeting of 33.
	So some crazy woman...
	Well, hold on a second.
	Hold on a second.
	You can't just pass this off as just some crazy woman.
	According to what the official report is, she's a stenographer who has been there for many years, and this is supposed to be her.
	We don't know that for sure.
	Because now, apparently, someone's name is Molly.
	And she's yelling about, you know, the Freemasons didn't write the Constitution.
	They would never do that.
	You can't...
	I mean, she's obviously going off in an atypical manner.
	And this is the wild sound, which I thought it sounded like people were yelling, Alu Akbar, quite honestly.
	I see now we're hammering her out.
	All right, now she's getting hauled off.
	It's clearly not the same recording at all.
	No, this is something else.
	You're right, the other one was done in the hall.
	Yeah.
	She went into the hallway where they could mic her, or stick a mic in her face, and then she continued her rant in the hallway.
	We have no idea what the premise was, because that would have been on the floor of the Congress.
	She's just bitching, moaning about something.
	I don't know what her problem is.
	Well, it's...
	Do you think that she was triggered by some code word?
	Next thing you know, she's gone nuts?
	She was talking to a couple guys.
	It looked like she was talking to members of the house.
	If you look at the video, you can see she's talking to some guys and she walks over.
	She walks right up and just starts yelling.
	If you really listen, you can hear some things, but we're not sure at all that this is what she was yelling about.
	It could be two separate incidents.
	It shouldn't be just...
	You can't just pass over that when you have a woman shot to death, an unarmed mom shot to death outside because, oh, she's crazy.
	Why didn't they shoot her to death?
	Why don't we have a big ceremony right now thanking the sergeant-at-arms for protecting them from the crazy lady?
	Another unarmed crazy lady.
	Another unarmed mom.
	Yeah, why don't we have that?
	Why is this just being glossed over?
	I don't think that's appropriate.
	I'd like to know what's happening.
	Yeah, and because, yes, I am concerned about the drugs people are being prescribed, and I think I'm on the Abilify tip now.
	I think Abilify is the one that's pushing people over the edge.
	Yeah, because it's always an additive drug, so you don't take Abilify by itself, from what I can tell.
	Well, at parties you can.
	What, a party?
	Yeah, if you're partying.
	Just pop an Abilify, babe.
	Yeah, it's good.
	The only difference is, for the first time in three attempts, this was not a black person.
	Which is another thing that is just not being discussed, and I'll bring it up here.
	It's crazy that no one just says it.
	An attempt at a prank could land one California man behind bars.
	Police arrested a baggage handler for allegedly planting those dry ice bombs around Los Angeles International Airport this week.
	Officers arrested DeCarlo Bennett last night.
	They say Bennett admitted to planting the devices and blowing them up, but he says it was just a prank.
	Another black guy.
	So we've had the black guy Navy Yard shooter.
	We've had the black unarmed mother who was not shooting anything but was killed.
	Oh, by the way, whose lawyer was arrested.
	So Miriam Carey's sister has been denied custody of her sister's 14-month-old girl.
	So she can't get that.
	The lawyer, the family lawyer, said, oh, this is not over yet.
	Boom, next day he's arrested on bankruptcy charges and is thrown in jail.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, none of this is weird.
	At all.
	No!
	And normally, crazy people are white rednecks, if we just want to stereotype and generalize, from the South with AR-15s.
	So what is going on?
	And why is no one saying, you know, hey, this is interesting.
	This is not the typical profile.
	It's not a sovereign citizen doing this.
	It's people who are probably likely to have been on...
	Abilify.
	Abilify, yes.
	Something.
	And in the neighborhood of God knows what kind of external factors, which could be radio waves or whatever.
	So this lady was white, but we don't know any...
	This will pass.
	We will not hear a single thing.
	And I find that uncharacteristically annoying of the press.
	No, you don't.
	Yeah, I do.
	It's very characteristically annoying.
	It doesn't seem uncharacteristic at all.
	Well, look at how they blew up all the...
	Yes, they've blown up all these other stories, and now this one is just...
	Well, that's what they do.
	They've been doing that...
	Hello?
	Since we started this show and before.
	Actually, he's been doing this since the 1920s.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Well, then I only know.
	Sounds like you fell off your chair or something.
	No, no.
	You crapped out for me.
	No, we'd rather have stories like this.
	Like what?
	Man over here's sad tale in diner secretly pays for meal.
	When one mystery diner in a Boston restaurant overheard a mother and daughter get some bad news, he took out a pen and scribbled this note to his waiter.
	Do me a favor and bring me their check, too.
	Someone just got diagnosed.
	Don't tell them.
	The waiter, impressed by his customer's act of...
	Oh.
	Oh, boy.
	...kindness posted it on Reddit.
	We're glad he did.
	Now that we have our faith in humanity restored to, the waiter known as Whiskaz on Reddit writes that the two women started crying after the daughter received a phone call mid-meal and that he then combined the two bills as requested.
	I waited until the guy left and told him that he had taken care of their check and that he had said best wishes, which was what he had said on the note he wrote me in the second bill.
	The mother cried even harder.
	I almost lost it.
	Yeah, that's the kind of story we want.
	Hold on a second.
	Now I have to find this thing.
	Oh, God.
	Story of the day.
	No, no, no.
	This, this, this is the story of the day.
	Hold on a second.
	Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	That's the jingle version.
	Here's the full sound bite.
	Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine.
	That's according to a study from Connecticut College.
	Researchers found that eating Oreos activated more neurons in the pleasure center of rats' brains than exposure to cocaine.
	In the pleasure center.
	What is she thinking of her own pleasure center when she's doing this read?
	In the pleasure center.
	Or morphine.
	Are you trying to get a job in Hollywood with this actor?
	I don't know, man.
	That's Like most humans, rats like to eat the Oreo cookies creamy middle first.
	Oh, man.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah.
	Can you believe that you just read that?
	Yeah, you did.
	You really did.
	Sorry to say.
	Yeah, that's...
	Are you there?
	Because you've been cutting out a little bit.
	No, I didn't think so.
	I have a feeling we've got to check.
	Bull crap!
	Clip of the day.
	Oh, thank you.
	Well, the question is, is it the long clip or the short clip that is clip of the day?
	Yeah, the part about eating the middle part, that's the clip of the day, because this is bull crap.
	Clip of the day.
	Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine.
	I love how she says it.
	Yeah, I know.
	She's got a lot of enthusiasm.
	She's like, yeah, I'm really enthusiastic about the cocaine business.
	She's obviously got something going on.
	Carol, CNN. A kind of an evergreen submission.
	This is going to be a new part of the show, at least from my perspective, from my side.
	I'm going to hear things that I think should be evergreen clips, and then I'm going to present them to you to either approve or disapprove or put in the evergreens and never use again, which is typically what happens.
	But try this evergreen submission.
	Okay, this will be interesting.
	This is information the world needs to know.
	It's beyond the law.
	You still think it's just a little website?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	This is about the fifth estate.
	This is something the world needs to know.
	You know, Julian Asange is pissed off about this movie.
	Oh my goodness, hold on.
	Play that clip one more time.
	Okay, hold on.
	We'll put it into the evergreens.
	This is information the world needs to know.
	He's beyond the law.
	You still think it's just a little website?
	Yeah, he's pissed off.
	He was on...
	Good for him.
	I've got to see what this...
	I have two clips.
	I mean, this movie's got to be a hilarious kind of a parody.
	I'm sure it's filled with government propaganda.
	Here's what he had to...
	It's a two-parter, really.
	Here's the first part, where he's being interviewed by George Stephanopoulos for ABC. And Stephanopoulos even sets it up...
	Hold on.
	I think it's this one.
	This is what we need.
	The Fifth Estate is being distributed by Touchstone Pictures, a division of ABC's parent company, Disney.
	And with that...
	There you go.
	That says it all.
	That says it all.
	Continue the debate.
	We turn live to Julian Assange, who joins us from the Ecuadorian Embassy in London.
	And I wonder, is he still at the Ecuadorian Embassy?
	Or is it at this point just a bookcase in his house somewhere, in his bunker, wherever he's living?
	They could have snuck him out somehow.
	Well, I'm sure they get him out once in a while.
	Thank you for joining us again, Mr.
	Assange.
	And you heard Benedict Cumberbatch there.
	He says he tried to neither glorify nor vilify you.
	And the film celebrates many of what he calls the great things that WikiLeaks has done.
	Do you accept that?
	Well, Mr.
	Cumberbatch wrote me a charming, very polite letter with genuine concerns about the nature of the script being used in that film.
	He's reported to have said to Vogue and to The Guardian that...
	He had fights with the director who wanted to present me as a, quote, cartoon baddie.
	That's Mr.
	Cumberbatch's words.
	I don't want to put words into his...
	This is where Julian Assange, by the way, jumps the shark.
	...words into his mouth, but of course he is under a contract and is limited to what he can say in the film.
	I do know that he tried to...
	I ameliorate some of the worst elements of the script, but unfortunately with limited success.
	What's your biggest complaint?
	I'm pleased to try.
	What's your biggest complaint with the film?
	Well, I don't know where to begin.
	I mean, we released the whole script well before this happened.
	There was no approach to us by DreamWorks in any formal capacity whatsoever other than the informal approach by Benedict Cumberbatch just days before shooting began.
	This is a film that is based upon my life's work, the work of my organization.
	We have people in extremely serious situations.
	Sarah Harrison.
	Now, so he is now...
	He's about to say that they're irresponsible filmmaking, which is hello, pot, kettle calling.
	This is the guy who's the radical, whistle-blowing, publishing, you know, get everyone out in the open.
	Now he's being screwed by the system, and his girlfriend, which is Sarah Harrison...
	Now, they're going to keep coming back to Sarah Harrison, which I think...
	Stephanopoulos is poking, because it's pretty well known that Sarah Harrison came as an intern.
	Assange started giving her the special wiki stick, and she became the senior legal counsel at WikiLeaks, and she apparently is now with Snowden in Russia, or wherever she's hiding out.
	And I think that Stephanopoulos' job here is to...
	Binder.
	No, to tweak Julian's nipples about this, because she's kind of hot.
	Being with Snowden.
	The possibility that she's nailing and bailing with Snowden.
	With Snowden out of Hong Kong, now effectively in exile in Russia because of the terrorist investigation here.
	Jeremy Hammond, an alleged media source to 25 organizations, including ours.
	And no one cares.
	We're going to go back to Sarah Harrison.
	This is what George will do.
	Up for sentencing in under a month's time.
	An ongoing grand jury investigation.
	What are the responsibilities for ethical filmmaking?
	Oh, responsibilities for ethical filmmaking?
	They made an ugly movie about me!
	That's not fair!
	It's all my hard work and they're making all the money!
	In that context, none of the suggested changes that we sent to participant media ended up even in the final text of the film.
	But there's been a big cashing in that has gone on.
	Oh, there's his real beef.
	Oh, everyone's making money but me.
	Yep.
	Now, let's get back to...
	I'd be irked about that, too, if I was there.
	Where's my piece of the action?
	Hell yeah.
	Well, dude, you're a martyr.
	This is how it is, dude.
	And now let's twerk his nipple about Sarah.
	A rich organization that is...
	He's trying to get in there, but the satellite delay is messing with you.
	You mentioned Sarah Harrison, as you said.
	This is a rich organization, DreamWorks, that's making a lot of money.
	Enterprise is intending to make a lot of money from this process.
	But there's no contribution to our defense fund, to the defense fund of our lead sources, and so on.
	Let me move on to Sarah Harrison.
	As you said, she's with Edward Snowden.
	We saw Edward Snowden this week receive an award from Four American Whistleblowers.
	Now, he's also going to throw this in his face.
	Hey, how's that award you've gotten?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	You don't have any awards.
	And listen, he takes the bait.
	You can hear him being spiteful.
	Who traveled over to meet with him, and it was something that was facilitated by WikiLeaks.
	Of course, Sarah Harrison, a prime member of WikiLeaks, as well.
	She's been with Snowden throughout his time in Russia.
	What can you tell us about how Edward Snowden is doing?
	So it's basically he's saying, so your girlfriend was over there doing the awards ceremony with Ed Snowden.
	Hey, how do you feel about...
	Yeah, spend a lot of time with him.
	Yeah, she's in exile with him.
	What's he doing with him anyway?
	What do you think?
	Protecting his human rights.
	No.
	Next for him and for Sarah Harrison...
	Edward Snowden is safe.
	We, through a lot of work, particularly by Sarah Harrison, managed to gain him asylum in Russia after our attempts to gain him asylum in South America were thwarted in a very bizarre manner by the State Department by denying, by cancelling his passport while he was in Moscow.
	I'm sorry, that's bullcrap, but okay, we've debunked that.
	He's safe.
	He's working to educate people, the journalists involved in these disclosures as to what is going on.
	He very rightly received that award from a former NSA, CIA, FBI, and DOJ whistleblower.
	You hear what he's doing here?
	He's like, oh yeah, no, he's clearly, oh yes, no, that's fine.
	He received that award from the whistleblowers.
	That was right on.
	Yeah, I get nothing.
	I get no money.
	The awards come out, I get nothing.
	And my girlfriend is screwing with this other douchebag.
	Integrity.
	It's a serious matter.
	It's a threat to U.S. democracy and to democracy more broadly in the West.
	To have a surveillance apparatus on every single person that would have been the dream of East Germany.
	Yeah, and meanwhile, he's screwing my girlfriend!
	This is not okay.
	You watch.
	I guarantee you they're about to stick it to him.
	What's to watch?
	We can see it coming down Broadway.
	But it's so much fun because Sarah Harris, and she's hot.
	She's a hot babe.
	She has her moments of, she's probably a lot of fun.
	She looks like a fun girl.
	Yeah.
	And then ultimately, I've discovered...
	She probably has a New Zealand frame of mind about these things.
	You think?
	Nail and bail?
	Maybe she's into scaffolding.
	Who knows?
	So here's the final advice that I take away from this interview.
	You and I are doing it all wrong, John.
	If you want to, I mean, you know, I believe we challenge our government twice a week at least.
	We challenge the narrative.
	We challenge the story.
	We do research.
	We really work on trying to uncover what is going on.
	Our problem is we're doing it in America.
	This is where we're stupid.
	Well, I would leave this embassy, you know, it's a bit of a prison in some way, but I have good people here.
	But where would I go to?
	You know, I would end up in the outside world, where you are.
	Yeah, that's where we are, John.
	The outside world.
	It's horrible here.
	What is happening to the outside world?
	That's a much bigger consideration.
	It's a bigger consideration for me and my staff and the 12 different legal actions we have going in different countries.
	But it's a consideration for everyone.
	What type of place is Western democracy going to be?
	Is it going to be a place with a collapsing rule of law?
	Oh, yes.
	With mass availability of entire populations?
	All the...
	Where's that siren?
	Where I can't find it, where's that siren coming from?
	It's outside his cabin where he's suffering from cabin fever.
	Does that sound like a British siren to you?
	Yes, yes it does, it does.
	...of a totalitarian regime.
	We don't yet have a totalitarian regime, but we have all the getting pretty close in the practical elements.
	Is it going to cross over into something else?
	Now, let's hear about the people who really know how to blow things open.
	It's not us, because we're in America.
	That would be a hard place for an investigative organization like WikiLeaks to work in.
	It is a hard place for Glenn Greenwald.
	He's now in effective exile in Brazil.
	Effective exile in Brazil.
	Play the BS clip.
	He's not in effective exile.
	He's not in effective exile.
	He is living with his boyfriend in Brazil.
	Yes, he's not in effective exile.
	But wait, there's more.
	Flora Poitras in effective exile in Germany.
	She's not in effective exile.
	What?
	She's living in Berlin.
	Close to the Chaos Computer Club and the brand new German intelligence agency building is right around the corner.
	Berlin is a partying place that historically has always been.
	Laura Poitras in effective exile in Germany.
	Sarah Harrison, a UK citizen in effective exile in Russia.
	Yeah, uh-huh.
	Sarah Harris, an ineffective exile, riding the pole!
	Wood Snowden, yeah, asylum in Russia, immediate asylum here.
	The West is becoming a place where the best and the brightest who keep the government, hold the government to account, ending up in asylum or in exile in other countries.
	We are doing this wrong!
	In Germany?
	I mean, come on!
	John, we are doing this wrong.
	You and I, we have to go into exile!
	Yeah, I'm in exile already.
	Texas is not part of America, by the way.
	I'm in exile.
	Yeah, there you go.
	I'm in effective exile.
	In exile in Texas.
	Effective exile.
	Effective exile in Texas.
	I'm in effective exile in my office, which I can't seem to clean up.
	That is a FEMA region disaster site.
	FEMA region 9A. Well, let me say in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all the ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	And in the morning to our human resources.
	In the chat room, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net.
	Thank you all for showing up.
	Very nice to have you here.
	In the morning to all of our artists, in particular, Patrick Bausch, who was the artist who scored the album artwork for Episode 556.
	We always look forward to seeing what you can bring to the table.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can submit.
	And Ron Boyd, who is the developer behind the No Agenda Karma Generator app, which you can just go to the App Store and find that.
	I think it's only for iOS.
	He is working on...
	He sent me a nice note, and he says, Hey, I'm going to start working on the iBook for you guys with the album art.
	Remember we talked about that?
	Yeah, we did.
	Yeah, we did.
	Is it iBook?
	So it goes into the iBook store?
	Yeah.
	Remember the podcasting lady would promote it for us?
	Right, right, right, right, right.
	So I thought that'd be good.
	And she links it together.
	She'll put on the iBooks page, she'll link it to the podcast, and she's really smart.
	Oh, that's great.
	I just wanted to throw that out there.
	Well, hopefully that'll work.
	We do have a few executive producers and associate executive producers.
	Hello, James Knights, slaves and elites.
	Please be outstanding for another donation from the Grand Duke, Ron Pelsmacher.
	Eric seems to have demoted him to Archduke, when in fact he's the Grand Duke.
	Yeah.
	Steven Pelsmacher in Belgium came in with 666.66, which is a whole sack of sixes.
	Yeah.
	Dear Amos and Jedediah, he writes, a whole sack of sixes in preparation for the sixth anniversary of the show in order to help you continue your sterling work of hitting us slaves in the mouth.
	Also, to help celebrate my own birthday last Tuesday, the 15th, please be so kind as to bestow a round of swazzle enough karma on all no-agenda knights and damers out there.
	I am truly privileged to be among them.
	On to the next six years.
	Thank you so much, Grand Duke.
	You've got karma.
	I just love that guy.
	Thank you.
	He's truly our patron of patrons.
	A man amongst men.
	He is the Archduke.
	Oh, it is Arch?
	It's not Grand?
	No, I mean Grand Duke.
	He is the Grand Duke.
	No, Arch is underground.
	I was just looking, because I sent a note to David Julian, who's next on the list.
	I'll read his note.
	Wait a minute.
	This is David Julian, 33333, Morgan Hill, California, came in again.
	Again?
	With the same code?
	The note says, Blue, fire hydrant?
	No agenda.
	We have no idea what it means, but...
	I asked him what it meant.
	Okay.
	He refused to respond.
	He just didn't respond at all?
	Or he said, I'm responding but I'm not telling you?
	No response whatsoever.
	Hmm.
	I'll do it again.
	I like these short notes.
	Let's split it up.
	There's three sections.
	I'll start.
	Blue?
	Fire hydrant?
	No agenda.
	That's the kind of support I appreciate.
	Well...
	I'm in Falcon and the Snowman now, all of a sudden.
	All right.
	Do you have the beginning of this note from VP Live Vape Team?
	I got it where it starts off podcast in 2001.
	Oh, no.
	This is from our vaping producer, the VP Live Vape Team, which you can find at vapeteam.com.
	I heard you guys talking about vaping on episode 556.
	I've been vaping for four years since the first products hit the market.
	I went from one and a half packs per day to just vaping in around a week.
	I haven't had a cigarette since I started vaping.
	We had seen thousands of people quit smoking and dramatically reduce the amount of cigarettes they consume.
	I love how the product has helped me and my family so much that I decided to start the podcast in 2011.
	It's a vaping podcast.
	We don't take money from the industry.
	What kind of a show is this?
	Hey, this vaping is great.
	What about you, Bill?
	What do you think?
	Hold on.
	We don't take money from the industry, but do take free products as giveaways.
	We fund the show out of our own pocket, YouTube ads, and with the occasional donation.
	The FDA is about to regulate these products.
	Now, I will say I've received several vaping emails, but this is an executive producer, so we're going to read this standalone.
	We can talk about the vaping later if we get to it.
	So the FDA is about to regulate these products.
	It has been in progress for several years since the FDA declared them tobacco products in 2009.
	The regulation is supposed to drop this month, but the government shutdown might delay it.
	Well, good luck there.
	Ever since the ANTZ, anti-nicotine tobacco zealots, found them on their radar, you find that repressives...
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Repressives.
	Same thing.
	Representatives from groups like American Cancer Society, American Lung Association, and the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids are against these devices, even though they clearly have many healthy benefits and actually help people reduce quit smoking no matter what Adam thinks.
	He's wrong!
	Hold on.
	He's wrong!
	What does Adam know?
	The truth is that nicotine and tobacco are two different things.
	Nicotine has similar health risks as common stimulants such as caffeine.
	Yeah, true.
	The problem with nicotine currently is the delivery method.
	Burning tobacco releases thousands of other chemicals which are known to have significant health risks.
	Vaping produces no secondhand smoke and no toxic byproducts.
	Then he goes on to say that the pharmaceutical industry is against vaping since their current nicotine replacement therapy drugs, patches, gum, shantics, etc.
	are highly ineffective.
	And they can't sell electronic cigarettes as drugs since they are tobacco products.
	Also, drugs like Shantix, which have insane side effects, yes, we know, are big profit centers.
	So he winds up by saying, I've been an advocate for vaping around the country.
	It's an industry that is exploding and helping people continue using nicotine in a much safer fashion.
	If you have any questions, please let me know.
	I believe he's the one who sent the email which accused Pfizer...
	Yes.
	It's all in the show notes, by the way.
	Yes, that Pfizer gave almost $3 million to, let's see, in total, that is, to the American Academy of Pediatrics, American Cancer Society, American Heart Association, American Lung Association, Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids, American Medical Association, American Legacy Foundation, Action on Smoking and Health.
	A total of $2,757,300.
	And that was Pfizer, of course, who...
	Don't they make the Shantix?
	Yeah, I think they do.
	And other products.
	And so, of course, that's how it works.
	And in fact, I think that as much as I hate to do it, I think, John, you and I should get on the anti-vaping train.
	It seems like that's where the money is.
	That's where the money is.
	Yeah, we should say, hey, you know, this vaping thing sucks, man.
	Action on smoking and health?
	$200,000?
	Yeah.
	Vaping blows.
	Don't blow your life.
	Don't vape.
	Come on!
	Send me some money!
	I think it's actually Glaxo.
	Isn't Glaxo who makes it?
	What?
	Shantix?
	No, no.
	It's Pfizer.
	It's got to be Pfizer.
	Well, here.
	Let's don't continue the show.
	We find out reality.
	Shantix.
	S-H-A-N-T-I-X space wiki.
	Wow.
	It's also called varinacline, which is the, I guess, the...
	The medical name?
	Drug name.
	Yeah.
	Marketed by Pfizer.
	There you go.
	Usually in the form of tartrate.
	It's a prescription medication used to treat smoking addiction.
	Okay.
	Good.
	I do understand that there's different types of vaping.
	There's a type of vaping where kids just have some cherry crappy liquid, and there's a wick in a pen, and then a battery burns it, and that is actual smoke.
	It's not like a vaporizer.
	They're burning cherry goop.
	I got a couple emails about that.
	And Dr.
	Sharkey checked in.
	It's an interesting topic.
	It is definitely on people's minds.
	Sounds like it.
	And I'm just happy that we're in the game.
	We got some skin in the game because we have received a $333.33 donation from the VP Live Vape Team.
	Yeah.
	So we're in the game.
	All right.
	Onward.
	I love that, though.
	Thank you.
	$266 for Sir Andrew Harms.
	Kansas City Zero.
	World.
	Indian.
	Indian.
	Happy anniversary, guys.
	Love all you do.
	Give yourself some karma.
	We'll take it.
	Thank you very much, Sir Andrew.
	Appreciate that.
	You've got karma.
	Or as I would say, Kilo Charlie Oscar Whiskey India India.
	I said Indian, I think.
	Yeah.
	Didn't sound at all lame.
	Indian.
	Edward Sheets in Brewerton, New York.
	$210.
	The show...
	This is his comment.
	The show is great.
	Oh, thank you.
	Stay loud and proud.
	Mac and cheesing my way to knighthood.
	Nice.
	The Mac and Cheese Life.
	Mac and Cheese.
	Finally, finally, from Walkley Heights, South Australia, $202 from Christina Caldwell, who writes in, After almost running off the road myself laughing at Adam's commentary to the White House mum incident, I figured this donate...
	Why?
	Did I say something weird?
	I don't know.
	Apparently it was something funny to the Australian.
	I figured this donation was long overdue.
	I finally hit my husband in the mouth after years of trying.
	This is always stunning to the two of us because of our previous experiences with the men always...
	With spouses?
	Yeah.
	No, that men have always been trying to get their spouses, their wives generally.
	Who tend to be generally not as amenable to our message.
	Yes.
	Maybe the misogynistic nature of our speech has something to do with it.
	That could be.
	It could be.
	It's possible.
	And then it would be reversed because it's the southern hemisphere, so the toilet...
	Swirls the other way.
	Swirls the opposite direction.
	I finally hit my husband in the mouth after years of trying.
	He recently delighted in pointing out that I am one of those evil people who listen in double speed.
	Oh, no!
	Oh, so he does listen to the show because we must have caught our rant on that.
	Despite no...
	That's why she was laughing at your thing.
	You sound like a chipmunk.
	Exactly.
	Despite no agenda being against me, I knew all was not lost.
	Yeah.
	This realization came when John told the fact that kale is horrible.
	I throw this in my husband's face as he has many a time been unable to understand why I refuse to eat kale salad and any other horrid green veggie he can find.
	Can I please request as much needed shot of karma for my husband?
	My God, you gotta get the guy some meat and meat karma for him.
	Here you go.
	You've got karma.
	This is not good.
	We'll have a man down soon.
	Man down, kale overdose.
	Man down, kale overdose.
	I was at the Whole Foods yesterday because Miss Mickey wanted this particular type of peanut soup.
	Yeah, I said, what do you want?
	She said, I want the peanut soup from Whole Foods.
	Okay, I'll go get that.
	No problem.
	Okay, dear.
	No, she's bad.
	She's in a poor way.
	And I was there, meaningless.
	I really only had to get the soup, you know, so I'm kind of walking around looking at other things I just can't afford.
	That's so expensive.
	Cheese blocks with cranberry for $18.
	Are you kidding me?
	Anyway, and I'm looking, all the women there...
	First of all, all the dudes are hipster.
	They got that douchebag hat on, you know, the one I'm talking about.
	Pork pie.
	Pork pie?
	What is it?
	Pork pie?
	There's a pork pie hat they like to wear.
	They also wear a cap from Burberry.
	Yeah, oh, douchebag.
	And with the shirt tails out and the Converse sneakers on.
	A vest.
	Yeah, but they got money, so they're at Whole Foods.
	But the women...
	Some of them do, but most of them don't.
	And the reason they don't have money is because they go to Whole Foods.
	Well, then there's this...
	Then the women...
	By the way, you never see these hipsters at the farmer's market.
	Never.
	Never, never, never, never.
	Or at Wheatsville.
	We have a co-op here which just opened up.
	That I'm really...
	That's...
	I mean, screw anything else.
	Okay.
	So the women, they all have a high level of hotness and pick-up ability.
	Well, I was saying most of them are pretty thin because they don't eat anything.
	They eat kale.
	They eat kale.
	It makes anyone skinny because they're throwing up most of the time.
	Throwing up green kale.
	It's like a version of bulimia.
	Kalimia.
	Kalemia.
	There you go.
	Write it down.
	Kalemia.
	Yeah, but they all look unhappy.
	That was going to be my punchline, because they've got Kalemia.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Yeah, they look unhappy.
	All of them just have a grouchy growl on their face.
	Oh, yeah.
	They do.
	It's just, wow.
	This is not a good place to be.
	And they've changed Whole Foods now with monitors and stuff, and the aisles are talking to you.
	It's very creepy.
	It's just creepy.
	We go to Wheatsville.
	That's our co-op.
	We like that.
	Occasionally you'll find the ones that have been doing the veganism long enough and they have this weird pallor to their skin.
	They got these little crosshatch.
	They're like in their 20s, but their skin looks like it's in their 60s.
	Yeah.
	You have to look carefully.
	Yeah.
	Before you approach.
	It looks like little spiderwebs, like webbing it's called.
	It's a name for it.
	You've got to look very close.
	Because they haven't got enough oil in their system.
	Whatever.
	Whatever it is they don't have.
	They're missing something for sure.
	Yeah, they end up grumpy.
	And they lose their sense of humor.
	And once you lose your sense of humor, I can assure you, you're done.
	What was it called again?
	Kalemia.
	Kalemia.
	There goes our free box from healthysurprise.com.
	No, no, the guy's a fanatic.
	He says he's going to double up on the kale snacks.
	Anyway, thank you very much.
	These are our executive producers and associate executive producers.
	The way it works on this show...
	It's very simple.
	It's a value-for-value model.
	You support us, and you get the credits and the mentions almost at the top of the show in the opening of the program.
	We have a thank-you segment later on, but these are the people, especially when you see the executive producers today, who are already patrons, and they keep coming back and keep supporting us, and we're into our sixth year almost.
	This is our sixth year.
	We'll be going into seventh.
	And when is it again?
	Our sixth?
	It doesn't fall on a show day, does it?
	No, it's on the 28th, I think, or the 26th.
	28th.
	Or 26th.
	I just love the fact that we keep arguing over when it really was.
	Well, we can look it up.
	Well, you look it up, and I'll remind everyone how they can support the show.
	And I want to thank Mr.
	Oil, who has set up something called the ITM Box.
	As a way to fund the NOAA... 26.
	26?
	Yeah.
	Okay, I'm going to remember it now.
	26.
	Neither of us have...
	We've said 28, 27, 23, but no one had 26.
	I don't know.
	We say 26 sometimes.
	It's 26.
	ITMbox.com is where you can...
	It's kind of like a Kickstarter for media projects for the stream, but the No Agenda stream does need help, and that is the first campaign...
	That's what all the listeners say.
	ITMbox.com.
	So take a look at that, and of course, as I mentioned, the No Agenda Karma Generator app...
	Ron Boyd, I think he has a donation coming up later on, our take from that fine public relations initiative.
	And we always want people to, I don't know, do something like go out, propagate our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	World Order.
	Shut up, slaves.
	Shut up.
	And remind us, Dvorak.org slash NA, channeldvorak.com slash NA, thenoagendashow.com.
	Make sure to go there.
	And there's a button you can click on, also, noagendanation.com.
	Indeedy.
	I got a number of things.
	Do you want to go down under for just a moment?
	Excuse me?
	Would you like to go down under for a moment?
	We have Australian news.
	We sure do.
	In fact, let's set it up.
	Australian news!
	Tough new laws to tackle motorcycle gangs will go before Parliament in the Australian state of Queensland today.
	The move is part of a crackdown taking place in several states against biker gangs.
	In recent months, there have been several cases of gang-related violence.
	So for more on this issue, let's speak now to my colleague, John Donison, who joins us from Sydney.
	Good to see you, John.
	Now, this is a fine piece of slave training legislation which was brought to my attention via this BBC report, which I'll play the rest of in a moment.
	Also, producer Alex down under in Queensland sent me the legislation.
	And he actually did.
	I love it when this happens.
	Now we have our producers sending in PDFs pre-marked up for your convenience that hit the show notes.
	This will be an Ask John when this is done.
	What do you think this legislation is really about?
	Tell us, first of all, how powerful are these gangs?
	Well they're pretty powerful and of course the police say they have connections to drug dealing, organised crime, there's a lot of inter-gang violence not just in Queensland but in states across Australia.
	It's estimated there are around 3,500 members of these so-called outlaw biker gangs such as the Hells Angels, 35 different gangs across the country and Queensland is just the latest state really to sort of say it's had enough.
	These Laws that they're trying to get through Parliament, the state Parliament this week, being billed as the toughest Australia has ever seen.
	Large rewards being offered for information leading to gang activities.
	The bikes of any gang member who is convicted will be crushed and turned into scrap metal.
	Restrictions on gang members wearing their colours or their leathers in public.
	Leathers, their leathers, their leathers.
	Riding in large groups, and even one saying no gang member will be allowed to own a tattoo parlor.
	John, give us a bit of a background to this.
	When I heard the leathers and tattoo parlor, I'm like, this is a bullshit thing.
	Something is going on with this.
	Are there specific incidents that have triggered this?
	Yes.
	Are motorcycle gangs rampant throughout Australia?
	Are they just raping women and pillaging villages and chopping children's heads off?
	Sir, is this interest, this legislation to crack down on the gangs?
	Well, this is a long-running problem, I think.
	Oh, well, you surprised me with that question.
	The 1980s, there have been a hundred...
	Oh, since the 1980s?
	...people killed in gang-related murders and more than a thousand shootings we've had.
	Let me get this right.
	In 30 years, a hundred people have been killed by gangs.
	Oh, wow.
	Gee, what a statistic.
	A spate of...
	Violence, mostly inter-gang violence, rivals, drive-by shootings, that sort of thing in recent months, not only in Queensland but also in the state of Victoria.
	Last week we had police in Victoria carrying out raids on more than 60 different properties linked to the Hells Angels gang and there they seized large amounts of guns, weapons, some sort of military style weapons.
	Alright.
	Alright, so this just goes on into bullcrap.
	What do you think this is really about?
	What do you suspect is in this anti-motorcycle gang legislation, John?
	Well, there's a number of possibilities.
	And by the way, I think it's rather peculiar that they'd crush the motorcycles instead of putting them on the market and selling them and making some money for the state.
	No, this is part of the meme to really help you associate this legislation with motorcycle gangs specifically.
	Big Pharma?
	No.
	Helmet laws?
	It's better than that.
	This is Slave Training 101.
	I have the document in front of me.
	I will just highlight a few things.
	Even though our producer Alex has highlighted a lot.
	This really is the Vicious Lawless Association Disestablishment Bill for 2013.
	This is not about motorcycle gangs.
	No.
	This is about any group or association defined as follows.
	Any group of three or more persons by whatever name called, whether associated formally or informally, and whether the group is legal or illegal.
	The ladies knitting club.
	Yes, that's an association that falls under this act.
	For this act, a person is a participant in the affairs if, and I have a couple here, the person has attended more than one meeting or gathering of persons who participate in the affairs of the association in any way or has taken part on any one or more occasions in the affairs of the association in any other way.
	So the quilting club is already in trouble.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
	And book clubs where those women sit around talking about shades of gray.
	Yes.
	Always at least five of them.
	Now, of course, you can have a club unless one of the persons in the club is a vicious, lawless associate.
	Yeah, I can see that in any quilting club.
	There's always one woman in there that's just a vicious person.
	It can be if you commit a declared offense, are a participant in the affairs of an association that commits offenses, and as a part of this bill, if you are deemed a vicious lawless associate, in addition to the fine for the crime committed, you'll get an additional 15 years of Of sentence, just because of how it's defined in this bill.
	Now, let's go down to the next bit here.
	I have some of the offenses.
	That you might be interested in.
	Sorry, I didn't...
	Oh, here we go.
	Okay, of the criminal code, there's a number of things you can do to...
	If you're in a group of three, and if you've had a meeting, more than one meeting, and you have committed a fray...
	Are you familiar with this word, a fray?
	No, you have to explain it.
	A-F-F-R-A-Y... A fray?
	An instance of fighting in a public place that disturbs the peace?
	A bar fight.
	A bar fight, yes.
	If you have attempted to pervert justice, if you commit a bomb hoax, if you operate a vehicle in a dangerous manner, if you receive tainted property, or if you possess dangerous drugs are amongst the 25 I have listed here, and if you're in a group of three or more, and if you call yourself something...
	You can get an additional 15 years for any of these offenses.
	This is a slave act, is what this is.
	Now, the way I understand it, it is only for the province of Victoria.
	No, it wasn't Victoria, it was the other one.
	Victoria's was also a problem.
	No, this is...
	Queensland, isn't Queensland?
	Queensland.
	Queensland, isn't that in Victoria?
	No, Victoria, I think, is a separate province.
	Oh, it's Queensland, yes.
	This is Queensland, I'm sorry.
	It shows you what I know.
	This is very disturbing.
	And the way it's being sold to the public is, hey, you know, this is almost like the EU protocols on human rights.
	Unless, you know, you have the flu and then we can arrest you and throw you in jail or any other communicable disease.
	You know, you can't be shot dead by a police officer unless you're running away from the police officer because clearly, you know, then you're dangerous.
	And so now if you were afraid and you're in a group of three, which could easily, you know, don't wear your No Agenda t-shirts together.
	If there's three of you, someone has to wear the Twit t-shirt.
	Two can wear the No Agenda shirt and someone has to wear something different.
	So, for as much as we are always looking at Australia and saying, wow, those guys got it together, this sucks.
	Nice slave training, Australia.
	Yeah, it's outstanding.
	I'm glad that they're...
	Doing something.
	Well, I'm glad that we have producers who are wide awake down there, and you can find this marked up legislation in the show notes, What?
	Nothing.
	I'm in stunned silence.
	I'm like, is he there?
	Did he drop out?
	You're getting paranoid now.
	Hey, so what I found interesting is the news of Glenn Greenwald.
	And Jeremy Scahill, Grenwald, leaving the Guardian to start up his own organization, backed by one of the guys from, was it eBay or PayPal?
	eBay, was it?
	What's his name?
	I don't know anything about this.
	You're kidding me!
	Pierre Omidyar?
	The Omidyar guy.
	Yeah, you don't know this?
	Yeah, he started it, but the guy is a total flake.
	He has started a number of publications, and then out of the blue, as far as I can tell, he gets bored and then just pulls the funding.
	So these guys are going to be left hanging.
	Oh, no, this is...
	They're going to be swinging in the wind.
	You hadn't heard about this?
	No.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, this is...
	Okay, you made your point.
	I didn't hear about it.
	Okay, so here's the deal.
	Glenn Greenwald has announced his departure from The Guardian.
	He's going to start up a new online-only news venture.
	So wait a minute.
	Stop.
	So let me get this straight.
	He's with Salon, a huge money-losing operation, which is exactly what you're describing.
	Goes to The Guardian, makes a reputation for himself.
	He's probably got carte blanche.
	Mm-hmm.
	And he says, ah, screw this.
	I'm going to go back to a similar situation that just loses money, and I'm going to...
	Now, I'm going to be losing the money, but I'll be losing it on behalf of Peter.
	It's Pierre.
	Pierre.
	It's the same thing.
	Well, yeah, so there's a couple of things interesting about it.
	One is, so Pierre actually wrote about this, and he did a couple interviews, and He's committed $250 million.
	Let me give you what he actually said.
	He said that he was offered the Washington Post as well as the eBay boy, the Amazon boy.
	What's his name?
	Bezos.
	I don't know if he looked first or whatever, but apparently he was like, well, this is great.
	They want $250 million, but now I think I'm going to go do something else.
	And he has had a civil beat, the Honolulu civil beat running for a couple of years, which is a...
	Oh, that's a runaway breakout hit?
	And he's actively involved with that, so he is kind of, I guess, enjoying being a news guy.
	So even though he has not said he is dedicating...
	Stop the presses!
	Even though he has not said he is dedicating $250 million, he says, well, I didn't spend $250 million on the post, so you could see that as my possible inlay.
	He has not committed that.
	Well, according to The Guardian, I'm reading from The Guardian.
	Do you think there's any sour grapes in The Guardian?
	No.
	In an interview, Omidar said he was committing an initial...
	250 mil.
	Okay, that's...
	To the yet unnamed venture.
	That's not what he's quoted as saying in a quoted interview.
	But that's okay.
	To me, what I found interesting was exactly what you highlight is Salon is essentially a publication that costs $3 million a year run by Sugar Daddy.
	Sugar Daddy who is the chairman of Adobe, whose daughter happens to be the president of Salon.
	Or CEO, maybe.
	I can't remember which one it is.
	Essentially, they bring in a million dollars in advertising.
	It costs him $4 million to run the outfit, so he puts in three.
	And Greenwald left that.
	And you're right, he built up a reputation.
	A reputation which, I'll add, is built in a collaborative effort, I think, with editors and some staff.
	And now he has all this stuff.
	I guess he has a trove and he's going to build, I don't know if he's going to build it or the way Pierre says it, he says that Poitras and Scahill and I guess a whole bunch of other people from the...
	Why didn't you just hire the staff from Democracy Now?
	Right.
	Exactly.
	It sounds to me as though what he's doing is he's...
	Air America is what I'm thinking.
	Well, I don't think...
	Nothing could be that bad.
	Democracy Now, at least, is hung in there.
	Democracy Now and the stuff that you get on Pacifica Radio, you know, KPFA and these guys, where, you know, they have to devote at least an hour a day to Navajo poetry.
	Hey, hey, hey, hey, I resent that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	The funny thing is about the Navajo poetry, they actually read it in Navajo.
	I mean, it's just like, jeez, can you find something more entertaining than this?
	Even the Navajos don't like it.
	Right.
	So he's going to...
	$250, by the way, is a lot because you don't need...
	That's a lot of money, yeah.
	In the internet era, your need for this kind of...
	$2.50 is buying the Washington Post where you have a plant.
	Online, I mean, if you can't do a publication with Glenn Greenwald and all these people for $5 million, kind of the budget that Salon has, I don't know what you're thinking.
	I'm thinking a lot of people are going to be like, Hey, Glenn, I always thought you were great.
	Get me a job.
	Get me a job.
	I just don't understand.
	For a guy who everything is important about...
	At the end of the day, it turns out for him, it's not about...
	I think The Guardian was certainly giving him free reign on publishing.
	I don't think he was curtailed in any way.
	I think he's able to do his side projects.
	So it is ultimately, just like everyone else, it's for the money, I guess.
	Yeah, if you really wanted to do it right, he would have done a book.
	Well, that may be a part of the deal.
	Well, maybe.
	Maybe they'll help him do the book.
	The book should be out by now, by the way.
	And it's also very possible, the way Pierre says it himself, and this is from his own blog, as part of my learning process, these rich guys, and I think he is actually the guy who wrote the first eBay code, So I think, you know, this is kind of a success story, you know, of just kind of a nerdy guy wrote some code for an auction site and really nailed it.
	Now he's a publisher.
	As part of my learning process, listen to Ev Williams if you get a chance.
	You know, these guys who, like, wrote some code and were...
	Ev had.
	The worst.
	Now they're all like, oh, well, you know, as part of my learning process, I recently reached out to Glenn Greenwald to find out what journalists like him need to do their jobs well.
	As it turns out, he and his colleagues, Laura Poitras and Jeremy Scahill, were already on a path to create an online space to support independent journalists.
	We had a lot of overlap in terms of our ideas and decided to join forces.
	Hold on a second.
	You okay?
	Is she okay?
	Has she been eating kale or anything like that?
	Hold on one second.
	Let me just check to make sure she's okay.
	That sounded like a distress call.
	Hold on one sec.
	No, she's okay.
	What happened to her?
	I think it was just a really loud cough and it hit the noise gate and it sounded like a dog being run over.
	I'm just ready to run in there and see the bed in flames with her legs on fire.
	Oh, you mean because of spontaneous human combustion?
	Yes.
	It starts in the...
	No, no, no, no.
	You have to understand how this works.
	Oh, I thought it always started in the legs.
	It starts along the midriff, along the belly, kind of across the center of your body, and then it spreads up and down simultaneously into your...
	Oh, okay.
	I thought it always started in the legs.
	No, no, no, no.
	The legs are the last thing they light up.
	Oh, what do I know?
	Yeah.
	If you read about it, this is an actual phenomenon.
	Gee, I really hope someone has...
	Hold on a second.
	One second here, John.
	Yeah, today's recording is going to be very interesting.
	It'll be fine.
	Yeah, I'm going to have to patch together a million...
	Oh, you're going to actually have to do some posts.
	Oh, gee.
	Somehow, I still had it set up to start new file when it goes below a certain...
	Level of audio.
	You screwed the pooch is what you're telling me.
	I have like 20 files.
	It's okay.
	I can patch them all together.
	It'll work out.
	Don't worry about it.
	I'll do some work.
	Hey, you know, it's not like we have $250 million to build our operation with.
	I just find this extremely interesting where we get these free people who now are going to let themselves be tied down to a billionaire who may have, I don't know, some kind of agenda.
	Who knows?
	Although the guy seems pretty cool.
	He's still what he is.
	Mr.
	Moneybags.
	And he does have an agenda.
	They all do.
	Well, this is the same guy who...
	I mean, he's in the club with Jeffrey Skull, who, of course, financed Inconvenient Truth.
	But also, you know...
	Yeah, you think there's going to be any anti-climate, you know, reporting at all?
	Well, the question is, what is it going to be?
	I mean, Glenn Greenwald, not known for his sports reporting, you know, so is it just going to be all about whistleblowers?
	Is it all going to be one...
	It's the Whistleblowers Daily from Palo Alto, California.
	I'm your host.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	So, you know, this seems, you know, it seems dodgy, I'd say.
	Dodgy.
	Dodgy.
	Very dodgy.
	I'm surprised you didn't know about that.
	I was kind of excited to talk to you about it, and I guess you could have sent me a heads up like I sent you.
	John, this is huge news.
	It's huge.
	News is not huge news to me.
	I'm flabbergasted.
	I care.
	Oh, jeez, they're starting another douchebag publication with way too much money.
	Every time they've done this, by the way, the only guys who operate well are the ones that operate on a shoestring.
	If you have all this money, I guarantee this thing will be a dog.
	They're going to hire a bunch of guys that aren't going to do any work because they've got the money coming in and they don't have to worry about making money, so they're not going to be lean and hungry.
	It's going to be a piece of crap.
	I mean, I can guarantee it.
	Portfolio did it when Condé Nast rolled it out.
	You could see right away that it wasn't going to succeed because they just had too much money.
	They were just coming out of their ears.
	They're overpaying everybody.
	I'm thinking that the whole concept of a network of anything is just inappropriate in today's age.
	I don't see the necessity for Glenn Greenwald to need to be part of a network.
	I mean, if Greenwald, with the stuff he's doing, if he just said, hey, support me and my sources, the guy would make a million bucks.
	Well, that's what Sullivan did.
	Sullivan.
	Sullivan.
	What's his first name?
	The guy, the political commentator.
	Gilbert O? Yeah.
	What's his first name?
	Gilbert O. Sullivan?
	Ed Sullivan?
	Yeah, Ed Sullivan.
	That's who it is.
	Andrew Sullivan?
	I think it's Andrew.
	Isn't it Andrew Sullivan?
	Andrew Sullivan.
	Right.
	And what did he do?
	Andrew Sullivan decided he's going to go on his own.
	He's going to do a pay-per-view, not a pay-per-view, but a subscription firewall publication.
	Oh, the dish?
	Is that his thing?
	Is that still...
	I don't know if the dish is what it turned out to be.
	By the way, your volume goes up and down and up and down.
	It's driving me nuts.
	Okay, hold on.
	I have to turn you up.
	Hang on a second.
	No, no, no, no.
	Oh, now you sound terrible.
	All right.
	Is it too loud?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	1-2-1-2.
	How's this?
	1-2-1-2.
	Better?
	Well, at least I can hear you.
	Okay.
	How about this?
	1-2-1-2.
	Is this better?
	1-2-1-2.
	Okay.
	It was set to automatic on this computer.
	I'm sorry.
	Aha.
	So isn't that what became the Daily Beast?
	No, no, no.
	He quit all those things.
	He said, screw it, I'm just going to write by myself and I want you to pay.
	And he got $650,000 right off the top.
	Wow.
	A lot more than we get.
	Yeah.
	And so he got $650,000.
	I don't know if he can sustain it.
	These are all in subscriptions, and they're all $25 subscriptions or something like that.
	But he had a pretty big audience, and he marketed himself very well.
	And I don't see why Greenwald could do the same thing.
	And he'd make a million dollars.
	A year or at least for a while until people got sick of reading the same thing over and over and over again.
	Well, he would have an operating budget, which is really what you want.
	You want a budget to be able to operate on, to travel.
	I guess he has to travel and he has his sources and stuff like that.
	But in general, what are the costs really?
	When you have a brand, which I think he carefully built, I'd say some of it off Salon, but at The Guardian is really where he came into the mainstream view.
	You go on every single news show and you're the authority on something.
	Why ruin it with an Uber Lord?
	Why ruin it with colleagues, for Christ's sake?
	Why would you even want to have Poitras and Scahill sucking off your dime?
	Yeah, and Scahill's definitely incredibly competitive.
	He does movies.
	He's much better as a harem-scare-em type of person in interview shows.
	He gets on there and scares the crap out of you.
	Greenwald bores you with his monotone.
	He keeps getting he interrupts you.
	He's not interesting compared to Scahill.
	Scahill is very entertaining.
	When you hear him, you go, oh my God, all these things are happening.
	What are we going to do?
	We're all going to die.
	Right.
	Whereas Greenwald is just like monotone, monotone, monotone.
	Meanwhile, the mainstream media, certainly in the United Kingdoms of Gitmo Nation East, have their own strange way of spicing up their news coverage.
	This is from the NewsHour, which I would say is a reasonably prestigious program.
	This is a download from the BBC. To find out more and our terms of use, go to bbcworldservice.com slash podcast.
	This is Tim Franks with NewsHour recorded on the 14th of October at 20 hours GMT. Coming up, we begin a week of special programmes with prominent female guest editors.
	This is Chelsea Clinton, vice chair of the Clinton Foundation in New York.
	I'm in the NewsHour editor's chair today as part of the BBC's 100 Women's Season.
	We'll be looking at attitudes towards the ivory trade in China.
	So, Chelsea Clinton...
	Are you kidding me?
	No, she is now the special guest editor of the NewsHour.
	Yeah, I know.
	Wow.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's bad.
	It's rigged, man.
	It's rigged.
	It's rigged.
	And not in our favor, buddy.
	Nope.
	We maybe should do some of that.
	I'm going to start a new segment on the show besides the other segment.
	Yeah.
	You're looking for this embedded stuff.
	So I'm watching the K-I-O-N. And so they have the...
	Out of the blue, in the middle of the new show, they bring out this Wells Fargo guy.
	What is K-I-O-N? Is that a station?
	The channel is the NBC affiliate in Salinas, California.
	Oh, okay.
	Gotcha.
	It's in the Valley somewhere.
	Right, right, right.
	And so it's kind of local.
	It's kind of local Hick.
	It's a Hick version of the NBC stuff compared to K-R... Well, not K-R-O-N, but K... Hick as in Redneck or...
	Just, okay.
	It's Salinas.
	We get no donors from that.
	Oh, Salinas is where Bill and Ted are from.
	Excellent Adventure?
	Yeah, they were from Salina.
	That figures.
	So they bring this guy on and it's essentially just a plug for Wells Fargo.
	They have a, it's a two people and there's a phone bank that you could call and ask crazy questions.
	And so, but just play this and there's a little irksome aspect to this.
	...Center and our friends from Wells Fargo are here, and they're helping you at home determine what is a good time for your children to start saving.
	And I'm here with Luis Dominguez, so we wanted to ask you that question.
	A lot of you out there are thinking you could call us here.
	The phones aren't ringing, so if you want free information, call the number on the bottom of your screen.
	But Luis, tell us, when is a good time for children to start saving?
	What should you tell parents?
	You know what, ideally I would say as soon as a child is born is the best time because just like with anything, the longer that you can save, the better it is.
	However, I would say the best time is right now.
	There's no reason to wait and it doesn't matter how old the kids are, right now would be the best time because if you haven't already started saving, then the longer you wait, the later it becomes.
	So as soon as you can start, that's the best time.
	Okay.
	So, when they're born.
	But what do they understand when they're born?
	I mean, what would you tell parents?
	What do you do when you have a child?
	Eat them!
	That's a great question, Ann.
	That's not a great question.
	Are you sure it's not a great question?
	It's an idiotic question.
	What do you do as soon as they're born?
	The kid, he goes on, he says, the kids can't really, they don't understand savings, so what should you do?
	And the guy says, this is a great question.
	It's not a great question.
	I don't get these people, but that's a great question.
	Let's hear that again.
	Boy, I mean, what would you tell parents, what do you do when you have a child?
	Yeah, that's a great question, and...
	How is that a great question I'm asking you?
	It's not a great question.
	It's just not.
	The only reason it's a great question is because it put the guy from the bank in frame for another three seconds for the commercial.
	I'm seeing a lot of this.
	I'm seeing a lot of the bank making it hard for you to have your money.
	Chase is doing something where if you deposit more than $50,000 in cash in a week, so if you have a cash business like a restaurant, then that's not allowed unless you are upgraded to a new type of business account.
	Which, of course, then gives you the right to do $100,000.
	It's like they're just coming up with ways to restrict what you can do with your money.
	And when your money's in the bank, I mean, what is this great percentage rate we get?
	One?
	I don't even know if it's that much.
	If it's even that much, yeah.
	And I keep getting offers from Chase for the Sapphire card.
	Have you seen this?
	No.
	Oh, my God.
	So, put in $50,000 into a savings account.
	Okay, I don't have that.
	But, alright, let's presume I had $50,000 and I put it into a Chase savings account.
	I will get the Sapphire card, which is a credit card made of metal.
	Which is a take-off on the Amex Black.
	Amex Black, correct.
	And I'm seeing people...
	What difference does it make if it's made of metal?
	Well, because it's a very pretty card.
	I mean, it has this blue, royal kind of purplish-blue hue to it.
	Let me take a look at it.
	And then people will drop the card...
	It's from Chase?
	It's from Chase, yeah.
	And so I've seen people pay with this card, and they will throw it down nonchalantly, or drop it, and it'll go, you know, it has this, like...
	It's a metal.
	People go, oh yes, this is my sapphire card.
	It's, you know, it's...
	Oh yeah, I've seen these things.
	It's that bluish looking...
	Yeah.
	...douchey card.
	Yeah, sapphire.
	It's funny.
	What a cool crap.
	Yeah.
	Does the card work or not?
	Mine doesn't always.
	It would be harder for them to cut the card.
	Mine doesn't.
	Mine doesn't always seem to work.
	By your estimation, John, how long have we been broadcasting if you take out the stops we had?
	Is it time for our donation segment?
	Stops lasted about two to three minutes each.
	Okay, is it time for the donation segment?
	Because I've lost all time.
	I think we're way over doing the donation segment.
	I was just waiting for you to cut to it.
	Oh, here we go.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on the agenda in the morning.
	Indeed.
	So we do have a few people to thank.
	Andrew Holcomb in Ann Arbor, Michigan, came in with $125 and silently requested karma yesterday, and it arrived.
	Nice!
	Thank you.
	Here's the donation to confirm that karma works and to support your hard work, gentlemen.
	Thank you so much.
	That's very kind of you.
	And then we cut right to the chase.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah, I was not expecting it.
	Here we go.
	69!
	69, dudes!
	Tight again.
	Good segment today.
	Yeah.
	Meanwhile, we have a black knight, apparently, because Craig Porter in Jacksonville, Florida, donated 6969 on the show 556.
	It was not announced as a knight.
	I think this is because I changed my PayPal email after I was knighted.
	I was knighted on show 328.
	So has he got another knighthood?
	What's the deal?
	He wants to be called a knight and Sir Craig Porter under this donation.
	So he needs to be renamed, I guess.
	Yes, we have him on the list for a ceremony today.
	Eric Thorsenberg in Hordaland in Norway, 6969.
	These are all 6969s.
	P. Bo in Maastricht.
	Pim, as he calls it.
	He would like some 6969 karma, and I suggest you give it to him.
	Yes, because that is the end of our 6969.
	Okay, here we go.
	You've got karma.
	6969, dude!
	We get down to one and that little guy yelling 69, 69, dude.
	We had somebody complaining that we threatened to kill it.
	We're going to kill it.
	It's done.
	When it's over, it's done.
	Because I don't want to do 69, 69, do 61 guy and then play the thing again.
	It's dumb.
	Yeah, it's very dumb.
	Yeah.
	We'd rather have 66, 66, which is now we have 66, 66 people, including Lucas...
	Ziwa?
	Ziwa, yeah, that's what I'd say.
	Munich, München, Deutschland.
	Andrew Gardner in Charlotte Hall, Maryland.
	Harshad Patel in Bilston, West Midlands.
	Brian Watson in Sugar Grove, Illinois.
	Terry Floyd in San Leandro, California.
	I do have a note from him, and he did write it in.
	With a handwritten, longhand cursive?
	That's something.
	I don't know where it is.
	I lost it.
	Where's the note?
	Huh.
	Well, that's working out great, that system.
	It's like I feel like a bureaucrat.
	I got all these things printed out.
	I got the lists.
	I got the note.
	And the note seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth.
	Wait a minute.
	Hold on a second.
	It could be in here.
	I bet you it is.
	Yeah, it's a great use of my tongue.
	Do you want me just to continue while you're looking for that?
	Or is there anything I can do to help?
	It's not here.
	It's not here.
	Who is this again?
	Terry Floyd.
	Terry Floyd.
	Yeah, he sent a note.
	He signed it at the bottom.
	I don't have the note anymore.
	I'll maybe find it by the end of the section.
	Good work.
	Sorry.
	I don't know whether I had the note.
	It's annoying.
	It's okay.
	We'll come back to Terry.
	I need a rubber stamp or something.
	I need a filing.
	I need a system.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	I found the note.
	I knew it.
	And we will read some of these notes when they're hand-shipped.
	In the morning, I donated Bitcoin to Adam back when you guys accepted them, but decided I owed you something more after the outstanding work you two have done and generated over the past few months.
	I sat on this check for too long.
	And it stinks, by the way.
	The check?
	You sat on it too long.
	Oh, fuck.
	Okay, it wasn't funny.
	No, not even close.
	I decided to send it out now that I heard your analysis of the Silk Road takedown.
	Adam was right on the money.
	There are several fishy and contradictory details in the affidavits from Maryland and New York filed against the dread pirate Roberts.
	By the way, we haven't followed up on that story.
	Well, the guy, well, I keep seeing cartoon drawings, you know, because I guess they're bringing him in front of some judge somewhere, which apparently press is not allowed because, ooh, that would be too scary.
	So I keep seeing drawings.
	So I guess he's real.
	And he denies that he's even Dread Pirate Roberts.
	He's denying that he's that.
	And the crazy thing, Bitcoin, $155 now.
	This thing is going back to an all-time high.
	So this whole exercise is fishy.
	On Adam's recommendation, I set up a bit message client and fired off a note to him, but have yet to receive a reply.
	I'm the one who answers my email.
	I really like this tool, and you can see a lot of potential.
	You know, you can publish a newsletter using BitMessage, and you won't have to deal with any Google spam filters.
	True.
	Okay.
	Well, the problem with the BitMessage is I have everything loaded on a USB stick, which is kind of the preferred method, so you can just stick it into any computer and fire up your BitMessage.
	You can stick it, yeah.
	But if you don't, after two days, any messages sent to you get deleted.
	Sometimes I forget.
	I forget to stick it in.
	There you have it.
	A lot of people do.
	You get older.
	Yeah.
	You forget to stick it in.
	Shane O'Hare in Wasilla, Alaska.
	Or Arkansas.
	It's Alaska.
	No, it's in Wasilla.
	Wasilla is Alaska.
	Yeah, that's where, what's her name is from?
	Sarah Palin.
	Sarah Palin.
	5560.
	William Frangaglia in Cornelius, North Carolina.
	5555.
	Sir Maxwell Roberts.
	Double nickels on the dime from Crown Point, Indiana.
	Shannon Adkins in Warren, Michigan, $50.
	These are all $50 now.
	Tristan Mason in Auckland.
	Wesley Bowman in Council Grove, Kansas.
	Matthew Stevens in Fort Worth, Texas.
	We're up the street from you.
	Josh McDonald in Brunswick, Victoria, Australia.
	And finally, Judson Noel in Oxford, Mississippi.
	And Gary Parks.
	In Oxnard, California, plus Chris Slowinski, our old buddy in Sherwood Park, Alberta, where all the money is, and Philip Meason in POWs.
	That'll be our donation segment for show 557.
	Yes, and Sir Maxwell Roberts did add a note.
	He needed some MBA karma for UT Austin and University of North Carolina.
	And, of course, we always try to do everything for our big patrons, our knights, our dames, our barons, dukes, etc.
	So we appreciate that.
	But of course, thank you to everybody who has stepped in today.
	Looks like we are down on the sack of sixes.
	We're going to have to do a big push before our actual celebration.
	On what date?
	The 26th.
	So it's the 28th.
	No, it's the 26th.
	Oh.
	I'm going to remember it now.
	And of course, it looks like the Swelzenoff is just about gone.
	But everyone who has sent in and also on the monthly 33s, 11s, the 12s, the 5s, the 4s, the 2s, thank you so much.
	This karma's for you.
	You've got karma.
	And we'd love more support for Sunday's show.
	Make that list just a tad bit longer.
	I know it's hard with NPR doing their drive right now.
	Yeah, it's killing us, those NPR guys.
	I heard a plea the other day.
	It was some guy who was reading poetry about...
	I kid you, it was poetry about yoga.
	And then the host comes on and she's like, do you love programming like this?
	Wouldn't it be a shame if programming like this were no longer on NPR? I'm like, wow.
	Did you hear what you just played?
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	Hopefully Miss Mickey will be better by then.
	I'm sure she'll be fine tomorrow.
	This is day three.
	She's not looking too good.
	She was okay, by the way.
	A lot of these things last about three days.
	Just lay off the kale.
	I think it's the kale that did it.
	So I've got kind of a gripe, local.
	Play this clip, and then I want to deconstruct this a little bit.
	Because my conclusion about this kind of thing is just annoying.
	Palo, I'm sorry.
	It would be nice if you knew what the clip was.
	Yeah, it would help.
	Try Palo Alto emergency alert system.
	Ah, okay.
	Meanwhile, my computer is a little wonky.
	Here we go.
	Some peninsula residents were surprised by an emergency message they received.
	Yeah, some 27,000 Palo Alto residents got this noisy smartphone emergency alert about...
	Of all things, a charity pancake breakfast.
	No, it obviously was not an emergency.
	KPI X5's Len Ramirez spoke to some people who say the fire department is abusing this system.
	The instant message went out on the county's emergency notification system to tens of thousands of people in Palo Alto all at once.
	I got the alert in three ways.
	I got a text, an email, a phone call.
	Under the header Alert SCC, the Palo Alto Fire Department sent out word that they were A, holding a pancake breakfast Saturday morning, and B, that a helicopter would be landing at a local school for demonstration purposes only.
	In retrospect, if I had to do it again, I probably would have put the helicopter in the first or second sentence.
	Fire Chief Eric Nickel defended using the alert system, which was designed primarily for major emergencies and says so on the system's homepage, for the community event, which benefited Project Safety Network.
	Yeah, I've been following this, and as you know, I've got some info.
	Well, Project Safety Net is the key here.
	Yes.
	What is this?
	Project Safety Net, and in fact, there's a bunch of these things going on in Palo Alto, and they tend to be oriented or about the, as they put it, if you start digging around the websites, And I thought it was interesting because they keep changing.
	It's the LGBTQQ community.
	Double Q? Yes, double Q. Queer and Queenie?
	Questioning.
	That would be you, my friend.
	I'm questioning.
	I prefer bi-curious, but questioning is...
	I think I fall in that.
	I do fall in this category.
	There's also LGBTQC and I, and there's a bunch of other ones.
	And so I started looking into this and realizing that apparently the LGBTQ community has taken over the emergency system, and they're the ones making these broadcasts because they're so important.
	Really?
	And I realized, you know, it's so funny to follow the history of this moniker.
	And there's a really good page, an LGBT webpage on the Wikipedia.
	And, of course, I'm always reminded when I was working at Mevio, and Brooks, who's a fairly notorious gay guy that was there, he always said he never could figure out when it happened when they changed it from GLBT, To LGBT. It used to just be gay and lesbian.
	It used to just be GL. It used to be gay and lesbian, but then the lesbians didn't like that.
	At first it was gay, because lesbians were gay.
	But the lesbians didn't like that because they didn't want to be associated with the men.
	With penis.
	So they had to make it, and GLBT was because the bi's were irked and so were the transgenders, and so now everybody's irked.
	And it doesn't seem to be like a group with cohesion, even though they have a party once in a while.
	It seems like they're just at each other's throats.
	And there's a bunch of crazy stuff that goes on, including these, you know, the third gender identity, which is one of these things that's being promoted in India.
	And so you end up with.
	What is it?
	L-G-B-T-I-H because hijra, H-I-J-R-A, third gender identity has its own subculture.
	And so this is getting really carried away with all these kind of – And I would recommend people reading the entire page of the LGBT page on Wikipedia because it discusses kind of the history of this.
	And I just find the whole thing to be...
	I don't know if it's laughable, but why are they sending out emergency messages for a pancake breakfast?
	Have you ever been to a pancake breakfast?
	No.
	It's ludicrous.
	It's a bunch of cheap pancakes.
	With a bunch of cheap, the cheapest, there's no real maple syrup there, I guarantee it, even in Palo Alto, it'll be some sort of high fructose corn syrup mixture that you dump on there with a bunch of cheap butter or margarine, and then you eat this in public.
	While people are watching you!
	So I scold the LGBTQQ community for misusing the system.
	So let me just understand.
	By the way, I expect Amber Alerts to have advertisements within the next five years.
	I'm putting it in the Red Book.
	I received a couple of screenshots from the...
	So first of all, this is all part of the Commercial Mobile Alert System, CMAS. And CMAS, also known as Wireless Emergency Alerts, as we know, they work through the cell tower system and they're broadcasting to you directly.
	We got another one of these on Mickey's phone the other day because it has almost been raining kind of like nonstop for a couple of days here in Austin.
	Really, you know, flash flooding, etc., And this is all part of the giant voice system, as we know it, as the slave training tools, which will tell you to shelter in place, cower in the corner.
	Or you get, this is the giant voice system.
	On Saturday, there will be a pancake breakfast.
	Yeah, exactly.
	He sent us...
	Hold on a second.
	I've got it.
	I saved him here in the show notes.
	So in the Canadian system on Android, because as far as I know right now, I've only seen this on the iPhone.
	I haven't seen it on the new Android.
	So he has...
	This is crazy.
	So you can set your preferences.
	So cell broadcast sittings.
	Here's the preferences.
	Show extreme threats.
	And these are all checked by default, of course.
	I'm reading directly from the screen.
	Show extreme threats.
	Display alerts for extreme threats to life and property.
	I'm going to uncheck that one.
	That sounds boring.
	Show severe threats.
	Display alerts for severe threats to life and property.
	That's checked by default.
	Show amber alerts.
	Display child abduction emergency bulletins.
	Turn on notifications altogether.
	And then you can select the alert sound duration, which is 4 seconds by default.
	Vibrate on alert.
	And also, speak alert message.
	Use text-to-speech to speak emergency alerts.
	And then we have the ETWS settings.
	Do I have these here?
	Yes.
	Display test broadcast for earthquake tsunami warning system.
	Show CMAS test broadcasts, which is display test broadcasts for the commercial mobile alert system, and show the opt-out dialogue at the end, which says show an opt-out dialogue after displaying the first CMAS alert other than presidential alerts.
	You see, when the fooder talks, then obviously you can't turn that one off.
	So this is just another great reason why I don't carry a cell phone anymore.
	This is insanity.
	And you're right.
	You're getting pancake breakfast commercial messages.
	I'm still kind of thrown by the Q thing.
	Yeah, you can't complain as much anymore.
	Because I'm questioning.
	But now I'm part of the group.
	Yeah, you're part of this group, this crowd.
	Outlet.
	Is that what they're called?
	Outlet?
	Yeah, Outlet is an LGBTQQ youth organization.
	Oh, I can't be youth.
	But I could be a big brother at Outlet.
	Yeah, you could.
	Hi, kids.
	And they're here to support and empower the LGBTQQ. I've been questioning all my life.
	Is anyone here who could help push me over the edge?
	There's a bunch of these things in Palo Alto.
	There's another one, ReachOut.com.
	ReachOut is run by the Inspire USA Foundation.
	Look that one up.
	Inspire's mission is to help millions of young people lead happier lives.
	There's a money sponge.
	There's another one, ACS, Just for Teens.
	Adolescent Counseling Service empowers teens and their families in our community to realize their emotional and social potential through counseling and preventative education, whatever that means.
	As long as you're not black, you can go to that.
	The Trevor Project is the leading national organization providing crisis intervention and suicide prevention services for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and questioning youth.
	So I guess the questioning youth are also suicidal.
	Palo Alto's got issues.
	Yeah, no kidding.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	And it was just named the best place in the world to live.
	If you can afford it.
	Yes, the most expensive place in the Bay Area, generally speaking, unless you go to Hillsboro.
	Anyway, that's my little gripe for the day.
	No, that's good.
	And it looks like, funny, I got an email titled, Red Book Denial.
	It's like, what?
	Yeah, so this Red Book, this RB... What is it?
	rdbk.net?
	So, apparently, one of the Red Book entries that we have in our official Red Book went on this website, and my Red Book prediction was Deputy Director of the National Security Agency, John C. Inglis, will become the next Secretary of Homeland Security, replacing Janet Napolitano when she leaves.
	Now, we have had no replacement...
	As far as I know.
	And the news came out that Kaiser Alexander is quitting.
	Yes, along with his second-in-command, John C. Inglis.
	And then so someone went on the Red Book site and said, I think it's safe to say this is not going to happen now that he's being forced out.
	You're denied.
	You're denied.
	What?
	Yeah, and then I got an email like I'm denied.
	And it's not true.
	What do you mean you're denied?
	That's what it says.
	It says denied on the website.
	What does denied mean?
	I don't know.
	This is the site.
	Anyway, it said denied.
	What does that mean?
	My Red Book entry has been denied.
	I don't know what that means.
	What was your Red Book entry?
	What I just told you.
	That English was going to go to Homeland Security?
	Yeah.
	I think it's still possible.
	Yeah, sure it is.
	So why would it be denied?
	Well, this is why I don't like it.
	Okay, we're going to mention this.
	I'm not going to get any more approval.
	If Adam Curry...
	Who has Red Book authorization.
	Thank you.
	He's the highest secret authorization to actually use the Red Book.
	I have clearance.
	Whatever he says goes in there.
	I have Red Book clearance.
	He has total clearance for the Red Book.
	So whatever he says, he could be full of crap, which is possible.
	It still goes in the Red Book to be used later as a pointer.
	He was full of crap on this.
	No, that's terrible.
	I don't think...
	Maybe they used the wrong IP address.
	Maybe they saw you as just some interloper, not the real Adam Curry.
	Regardless of that, it is, of course, very interesting to see Alexander saying he's going to leave in six months.
	Along with Inglis.
	And I will say that the smart thing for these guys to do would be to start their own consulting company.
	It's set up beautifully.
	He's going to go right to work probably for Chertoff.
	Chertoff, you think he'll go straight?
	Because this guy, they don't call him Kaiser.
	He's not an entrepreneur.
	Take a look at him.
	But as a guy, as a stooge in Chertoff's operation to do some lobbying and probably take a few records with him, if you know what I'm saying, you know, be kind of the official blackmailer for the place.
	Got some info.
	Yeah.
	They used to call him Alexander the Geek when he was a kid.
	He wouldn't have that Star Trek thing.
	He'd probably take that with him.
	Break that down and put that in the truck.
	They called him the Emperor, actually.
	I've been reading up on his past, and that is what they would call him inside the hallowed walls in D.C. They call him Emperor Alexander.
	So we actually, by calling him Kaiser, were actually...
	We're close.
	Close, but I think Emperor is above Kaiser, isn't it?
	I think they're equal.
	Oh.
	Um...
	So yeah, that's surprising, yet is it really?
	I mean, here's the guy who has the goods on everybody.
	He has built this army and has frightened all these nincompoops in Congress about the horrible threats to our world.
	And he and his cronies all just sitting there lying, and no one calls him on it, and they just get to phase it.
	I bet you there'll be a big party, too, when they leave.
	They get the huge party.
	He'll throw in for himself.
	But if I was him, I wouldn't go to work for Chertoff.
	I think I'd start my own gig.
	I think he could do it.
	I think he has the goods on enough people.
	Don't you think?
	Yeah, no.
	If you were him, you would start your own thing, and you'd have like a five-person operation.
	It would be kind of an intelligence security operation.
	It would be a little different than Chertoff's operation, I believe.
	But, you know, that other guy...
	Hayden, you know, went over to work for Chertoff, and he's kind of the CIA guy.
	He was the head of the NSA for a while, and he felt fit right in.
	And he'd be the guy that would kind of cajole Alexander to come over here.
	You know, you can always start your own thing later, but you want to get the, you know, you want to get your feet wet.
	See if you like it here.
	You might like it here.
	You won't have to start your own thing.
	We got plenty of money, boy.
	Right.
	Build up your Rolodex.
	Get your crads and you can go do your own thing.
	I love the, we got plenty of money, boy.
	That's my favorite.
	We got plenty of money, boy.
	So, you know, he'll do okay.
	And I just don't see him being the top guy.
	Chertoff is the bullcrap artist that can really do some damage.
	Yeah.
	He's a good front man.
	He is hardcore.
	Looks like the devil.
	He does.
	He does.
	Got a skull for a face.
	It's horrible.
	Scare the crap out of you.
	So we have a horse problem in the western states.
	A horse problem?
	Yeah, a horse problem.
	Play wild horse problem.
	There is renewed controversy in New Mexico over a plan to reopen horse slaughterhouses, which have been banned in this country for six years.
	Haris Freenivasan has our report about what's triggered this debate.
	And then bring them on in along the fence line.
	Several times a week this summer, residents of the Navajo Indian Reservation in New Mexico mapped out a game plan.
	They set up a temporary pen and then headed out by horseback and ATVs to round up groups of wild horses that have become a threat to the livelihood of farmers and ranchers here.
	These horses are bouncing in between ranches, in between homesteads.
	They're, again, eating the forage, drinking the water.
	Each horse, feral horse, we estimate eats anywhere between 5 and 18 pounds of forage a day.
	They drink between 5 and 15 gallons of water a day.
	Ernie Zah, spokesman for the tribe, estimates that feral horses, that is horses that run wild but at one time were domesticated, cost the Navajos $200,000 a year in damages.
	There are approximately 70,000 of them in northwestern New Mexico alone.
	And Zah says they're putting a tremendous strain on the land and resources, land that is already struggling from a catastrophic drought.
	I say, eat them.
	Well, that's what we're trying to do, but the animal rights folks don't seem to care about it.
	A lot of people eat horse meat in a lot of cultures.
	I mean, they do in China.
	Slovenia is like a big horse meat, even though they don't like to admit it to outsiders.
	I went to a horse meat specialty steakhouse when I was there and had a big slab of sirloin horse meat.
	Which was kind of dense.
	The Slovenians, I don't know.
	I don't dislike horse meat, but it's not something, I mean, it makes a good taco.
	I had it in Mexico once.
	I've had it.
	I've had it.
	It's fine with me.
	I also have no problem with it.
	I'm not...
	I don't have a problem with the thought of it.
	I mean, there was a big thing recently, like a couple months back in the UK. Horse meat is in everything, and it's at Tesco's, and it's at Burger King, and it's at Mac King Burger World.
	It was obviously coming in from outside the country because they banned it somehow.
	But let's play this out.
	Play horse part two.
	Roundups in which horses are chased across open land into makeshift corrals...
	And then load it into trailers to head to auction.
	Many of the horses end up in slaughterhouses in Canada and Mexico.
	Their meat exported to China or Europe, where, unlike the U.S., horse meat is regularly consumed.
	The United States shut down horse slaughterhouses in this country six years ago when it prohibited federal funding for inspectors.
	But recently, Congress removed that...
	But it was the law of the land!
	And this summer, the USDA awarded the first permit that would allow horse slaughter to resume in the U.S. It was a decision that ignited a nationwide debate about the practice of killing horses for meat.
	Well, I can just see this.
	I can already see it coming here in Texas.
	There's going to be protests, and it's all sad.
	I can see this happening already.
	Well, the Obama-Bot people should discuss this at the next dinner.
	Yeah.
	Oh, the poor horsey.
	You can't eat a horsey.
	So play part three and I'll have a couple of second comments.
	Rios concedes that humane euthanasia and population control are very expensive remedies.
	Euthanasia costs roughly $300 per horse, and that's not including the cost to round it up.
	Right now, contraception for wild horses is difficult to administer.
	It involves shooting darts from helicopters with a treatment that must be re-injected every two years.
	Rios is opposed to slaughter, but she says it's not a simple issue.
	She says horses are dying every day, in trucks as they're shipped out of the country, and on the rangeland when they run out of food.
	She thinks the government has been delinquent by not spending enough money to deal with the problem.
	It's inhumane to let animals starve to death, dehydrate to death, procreate at...
	Excuse me, isn't it the definition of inhumane is animals?
	Inhumane means not treated like a human.
	Well...
	If you say it's inhumane to treat animals that way, isn't that like some kind of weird paradox?
	Now you brought this up, we have to look it up.
	I'm going to finish the last 16 seconds of this.
	Procreate at a level that the environment is unable to support.
	So that's why at the shelter, we wouldn't just say we were against slaughter.
	We are for humane alternatives.
	Yeah.
	Cremation?
	What other human do we have?
	I think we should bring wolves back to Mexico.
	What humane alternatives do we have for animals?
	This is a little crazy.
	Inhumane means lacking pity or compassion.
	It's got nothing to do with anything.
	Really?
	Oh, okay.
	I thought the word human was in there?
	Yeah.
	Well, no, it means not acting like a compassionate human.
	Without compassion for misery or suffering, period.
	Okay.
	Not about people.
	Oh, okay.
	It seems like maybe that has...
	And it says here, as part of the definition, confining wild horses is inhumane.
	Whatever you do is inhumane.
	But anyway, they've sued to stop the slaughterhouse, and they have all kinds of reasons why.
	And meanwhile, these horses are being shipped out to Mexico, where they do such a great job down there, you can count on that.
	But they have an injunction, and those whole things going on.
	We have too many horses that need to be eaten, and they're running all over the place.
	We have people starving in the streets.
	Homeless that would love to have a horse steak, but no.
	We have people eating mac and cheese.
	Yeah, I have people eating 69 cent mac and cheese, 39 cent mac and cheese dinners.
	Anyway, that's just, I just thought that was an interesting situation.
	I didn't realize there were 70,000 of them there.
	Apparently there's a quarter of a million to a million wild horses running around.
	Wow, well, yeah.
	Here's another.
	I got one more.
	Okay.
	I have some other stuff.
	They finally gave the Medal of Honor to this one soldier.
	Did you see that ceremony?
	Yeah.
	That was creepy.
	Well, it was creepy because they didn't want to give the guy the award, but they already gave it to one of the Marines that was involved.
	They gave it to the guy who then they took it back and they arrested him and they accused him of lying.
	There's all this crazy stuff going on.
	This whole thing is a debacle, this Medal of Honor.
	So now they have, for the first time in like 200 years, they've given the Medal of Honor to two guys from the same battle.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, they didn't want to give it to this guy, who was the captain, I believe.
	And so we played part one of this.
	And then what I thought was funny about this, essentially, the rationale that the army finally came out with was that the dog ate the homework.
	...to surrender.
	So Will stops treating Kenneth long enough to respond by lobbing a grenade.
	And finally, after more than an hour and a half of fighting, air support arrives.
	A helmet cam worn by a crewman in a medevac helicopter showed Swenson kissing the sergeant's head to reassure him.
	Westbrook ultimately died, joining the four Americans, ten Afghan troops, and an interpreter killed in the ambush.
	Another man involved in that fight, Marine Corporal Dakota Meyer, was awarded his Medal of Honor in 2011.
	The Pentagon is now investigating allegations that Swenson's nomination was delayed because he criticized superiors over the handling of the battle.
	The military says his paperwork was lost.
	You know, they literally deleted this guy's name from the database inside the Pentagon.
	Yeah.
	Like, took his name out.
	Well, it was one of the congressmen from Missouri up in Washington State who was claiming that.
	Apparently, supposedly helped.
	But play part two, and there's a little rundown by this other guy that discusses some of these issues.
	To help fill in this story, I'm joined now by David Nakamura of the Washington Post.
	He's interviewed Swenson many times, and while this is a story of uncommon heroism, is it also fair to say that it was an uncommon path to today's medal ceremony?
	Absolutely.
	It's been a long four years, Ray, for Will Swenson.
	He has left the military two years ago, and he went back to his native Seattle, where he's from, where he went to college, and he has really kept a low profile, in part, I think, because of the controversy surrounding his award.
	There is a lot of allegations that the Army was concerned about his criticism, concerned about what kind of representation he would give if he was on a public stage like this.
	However, there's been pressure from outside, both from Republicans Reports in the media, but also a U.S. congressman got involved asking what happened to this nomination.
	He deserves the award.
	He's got it today.
	He stood up there like a good soldier and accepted the award and was back in his uniform.
	So it was a very powerful moment.
	The president touched on it lightly, as he did, as he does at all medal ceremonies.
	He told the story of how this award came to be.
	It took a long time for those men to get air support when they were pinned down by those snipers.
	Absolutely.
	Our reporting showed that it took about 90 minutes, probably understand from eyewitnesses, of people involved in the ambush.
	90 minutes of pure fighting.
	These were 11 or so U.S. trainers with Afghan National Army troops and border police who were allied with the U.S., but were not completely under our command.
	And so some of those folks just ran off in the battle.
	The U.S. soldiers got...
	And Marine Corps got separated from one another, which was part of the problem.
	Their communication was cut off at one point.
	And so they were really stranded on the battlefield for a long time.
	It took two hours for Will Swenson and his men to move back.
	They suffered casualties, including Kenneth Westbrook, as the video showed.
	And that was a problem.
	And they eventually were able to regroup, go back out, and they found the former three Marines and a Navy corpsman who had been killed, unfortunately.
	Anyway, so they go on and talk about why did it take an hour and a half, and supposedly somebody was reprimanded, but they won't say who.
	Apparently this was under McChrystal's watch, by the way, who had changed the...
	Rules of engagement.
	The rules of engagement to being something weird.
	Now, here's the disgusting thing about this, is the dead soldiers were just, you know, no arriving ceremony, no flag-draped coffin, no salutes, no, oh yeah, no, it happens, but you don't see it on the news.
	No, the president's not there.
	That's forbidden, foreboding.
	We can't show the dead people.
	Don't show the dead children, Mr.
	President.
	It's a shameful episode in the Army's, you know, typical, some bureaucrats got in the middle and they were going to be embarrassed by the guys that apparently, I don't know why, there's still no explanation for why it took so long to get air support.
	I'm not sure why we're discussing it other than I'm just disgusted by...
	I know why we're discussing it because it's a good story.
	Yeah, no, that's what I mean.
	But it's creepy.
	It is creepy.
	It's totally creepy.
	How this happened.
	I mean, the package I had was...
	I actually titled it Creepy Medal of Honor Package.
	Just want to hear it?
	Just a little bit of this?
	Yeah, play the whole thing.
	It was creepy.
	...of compassion and loyalty to a brother-in-arms.
	Westbrook dies a month later at Walter Reed, but Swenson stayed in touch with his family who were at the ceremony today.
	I looked into a room that was there to support me.
	This guy, I have to say, was kind of what creeped me out, the guy who won the medal.
	But I was there to support them, and I will continue to be there to support them.
	My colleagues, the families of the fallen.
	Listen to them.
	It was a powerful moment.
	So was September 8, 2009.
	U.S. forces got ambushed by 60 Taliban en route to meet village elders.
	Maybe it was just creepy looking at it.
	I'll stop it now.
	Well, maybe it was creepy because the guy still irked.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And he's just become bitter.
	Yeah, the way he was talking.
	He sounded like he was talking like someone who just was about to blow, and he knew better.
	So he made it clear that he was not a happy camper.
	Yeah.
	So here's one for you.
	But you've done three in a row now.
	This will be three in a row.
	But I just want to ask you this question.
	This is an Ask Adam, actually.
	This is the IHT rebranded.
	I'm going to ask you in advance.
	Why would anyone in their right mind do what just happened?
	And out goes the International Herald Tribune.
	In comes the International New York Times.
	After a 126-year run, the IHT is rebranded.
	You're one of the world's experts on branding.
	Yes, I am.
	That's correct.
	I am a brand expert.
	Nike would be nowhere without me.
	In fact, I said, hey, just do it, and then that became pretty famous.
	So why would they do this?
	For one thing, when you're overseas, I mean the New York Times, when you subscribe to the New York Times, I don't care where you are, but say I used to have it coming here and now I only have it on Sundays and actually I forgot to pay for it so they don't even send me that anymore.
	But I still have to pay eventually because I do like to do the online research with it.
	Whatever the case...
	When I get to New York Times and I open it and start reading it, I know I'm reading a New York City newspaper about what's going on, mostly in New York.
	They've got the art museums, they've got Broadway places.
	It kind of makes you think you're kind of like maybe a little bit in New York.
	You feel a little cosmopolitan.
	Yes, of course.
	Now, when you're overseas and you see the International Hero Tribune, it's an international paper about everything all over the place.
	But it is written and published by the New York Times Corporation, correct?
	Yes, and it was actually a joint venture with them and the Washington Post for a long time, and the Washington Post gave up.
	But it's still a brand that has been around for over 100 years.
	Why would you change it to the International New York Times?
	It makes no sense.
	New York is about New York.
	Why would you put the name New York on it?
	The International Times would make sense.
	So I'm asking you on a branding basis, what's the thinking here?
	Sounds to me like we have a pending sale or investment or something else is happening that is exterior to this brand.
	And either a board member had a great idea.
	It sounds like someone who has no idea what they're doing is doing something.
	In fact, maybe Eleanor Clift is running the New York Times.
	Listen to this.
	Well, this is one of the big problems now.
	You've got a race to be first, whether you're tweeting or you're on the air or you're writing a blog or writing a story.
	You've got so many demands.
	There's a journalist now on you, Eleanor.
	You're at the Daily Beast.
	You're doing this.
	Do you have somebody editing every tweet, every story, every word that you write?
	No.
	Nobody edits the tweets, as far as I know.
	Nobody edits your tweets?
	No.
	In fact, I say to myself every day, Eleanor, think less, tweet more.
	There you go.
	That's the slogan, ladies and gentlemen.
	Think less, tweet more.
	Is this woman a moron?
	That's a clip of the day.
	Oh, it goes on.
	Because I don't tweet enough.
	What do you mean, big glass?
	I'm really scared of you.
	Well, you know, you have to kind of trust yourself.
	Sounds like she's talking about masturbation.
	Don't do it.
	I mean, I tweet fairly irregularly.
	Just replace tweet with masturbate in this story.
	It's much better for Eleanor.
	Come on, Eleanor.
	Come on, you're stuck.
	Writing a story.
	You've got so many demands.
	There's a journalist now on you, Eleanor.
	You're at the Daily Beast.
	You're doing this.
	Do you have somebody editing every tweet, every story, every word that you write?
	Oh, nobody edits the tweets, as far as I know.
	Nobody edits your tweets?
	No, no.
	In fact, I say to myself every day, Eleanor, think less, tweet more, because I don't tweet enough.
	What do you mean, think less?
	That's really scary.
	Well, no.
	No, you have to kind of trust yourself.
	I don't do it.
	I mean, I tweet fairly irregularly.
	But in today's world, we are encouraged to tweet, to get our stories out there, promote our colleagues.
	And if we're analysts and pundits, we should get our thoughts out there.
	I've never done anything or said anything that's career-ending yet.
	But we're all about two steps away from that, I think.
	Actually, I think she has said something career-ending on the Twitter.
	She's a constitutional liar!
	There you go.
	That was her tweet.
	So, she said that nobody edits her tweets that she knows of.
	Does she know how this even works?
	No, because she actually writes down in longhand...
	And then she goes and she counts with her pen.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, oh, 120.
	Good.
	And she hands it off to someone.
	They go then and tweet.
	That sounds like it.
	Let's take a look at Eleanor Cliff's Twitter.
	Thank you.
	This is why we're a great team, John.
	NBC polls find Obamacare gaining popularity since shutdown.
	Thank you, House Repubs, for doing better jobs selling the ACA than the White House.
	Last from the past, New York Times digs down into the GOP shutdown strategy and finds Ed Meese, Reagan-era hardline AG, back in vogue.
	She's fantastic.
	Is this all...
	Someone...
	Tweet number three.
	Someone should tell the House Republicans the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
	Woo!
	Wow, that is just stellar stuff.
	So it goes on with these sorts of lame kinds of...
	It's not even good Obama bot stuff.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	There's one here, just out of the blue.
	No, Jen, she doesn't retweet.
	She doesn't answer anybody's tweet.
	You know what you're supposed to do.
	She's not even good at this.
	She just out of the blue says, John Kerry poised to make history.
	Oh.
	Doing what?
	It's just all it says.
	There's no reference.
	There's no link.
	All right, let's get off Eleanor, so to speak.
	Please.
	But you should follow her just to annoy yourself.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Okay, a couple stories here.
	I just wanted to win by...
	She has 3,200 followers.
	That's how bad it is.
	One, and there's...
	I haven't had this on the show notes, I think, maybe for a week now.
	The workers who are demolishing the Sandy Hook Elementary School at a cost of $50 million to build a new school on the same site are required to sign confidentiality agreements.
	Why?
	Why?
	To protect the families, of course.
	I know.
	It's like this couldn't get any more annoying, this whole ordeal.
	So they're not allowed to talk about what they find inside when they're demolishing the place.
	You mean like the microphones and cameras in the walls?
	Yeah.
	The confidential agreements forbid public discussion of the site, photographs, or disclosure of any information about the building where the so-called Sandy Hook shooting took place.
	Allegedly.
	Because we haven't seen anything.
	No.
	I mean, it's right there with the Bin Laden pictures.
	And we haven't seen that crazy medical examiner around either.
	I wonder what happened to that guy.
	Remember the crazy guy?
	He's got a movie deal.
	He must.
	Then, this is kind of a red book, although I think we've checked this off several times, but now, headline, by the way, IBM's Watson wants to fix America's doctor shortage.
	As it turns out, and this, by the way, is...
	This is an old story.
	We've done this before.
	No, this is a little different.
	It's a little different.
	This kind of ties into the Affordable Care Act, and as you know, and I know many doctors who are just being fired.
	General practitioners, there's no use for them.
	Everything's going to be done by your healthcare provider.
	We've tracked this for a long time here on the show.
	In fact, what you really get is registered nurses and other administrative personnel who are going to put bandages on you and prescribe certain medication.
	You'll have one doctor who just signs off on stuff.
	It's all going into this...
	The general practitioner's office is going into this kind of automated mode.
	The only real money to be made is with specialists.
	So anyone who's a general practitioner is kind of out.
	The hospitals are firing these guys and gals.
	This story says that there will be as many as 45,000 primary care doctors shortage by 2020.
	But the idea is to have IBM's Watson do your diagnosis.
	This is a little new.
	And they're actually talking about a trial phase that they've set up now.
	Where you go in, you answer questions on the computer, which of course you can do from the comfort of your own home, and then Watson will just prescribe stuff for you.
	So removing people altogether from the process.
	This is a little new.
	It's kind of like the guys just sign off on the marijuana.
	There's a doctor, you know, you go to these conventions in California, the marijuana pot thing or whatever, and you go in there.
	It's just a bunch of...
	And there's a doctor in the corner.
	You get your diagnosis for schizophrenia or whatever.
	You're having...
	What's the deal?
	I say, I'm having trouble sleeping.
	Sleeping, yeah.
	Oh, I got a sore throat.
	Oh, here you go.
	Oh, I got these horrible headaches that won't go away.
	There you go.
	Exactly, exactly.
	Okay, well that's a nice depressing piece of news.
	And then there was this big article Which to me was new in Fast Company, which I think the article or the interview was done a while ago because this is about 23andMe.
	And I've been following this company.
	This is one of your pet peeves.
	Yeah, it is.
	It's just math.
	Everyone's DNA is going to save your life.
	Now, this, of course, is Sergey Brin's wife, who I believe is now ex-wife.
	Aren't they getting a divorce or they're separated?
	Yeah, he's found a younger woman.
	So this story by Elizabeth Murphy, who took her adopted six-year-old daughter and made her do the DNA test.
	And she found that she was the spawn of Satan.
	Well, it's kind of crazy when you're reading through this.
	So she talks about Sergei and how Sergei has a 54% chance of Parkinson's based upon her $99 test.
	And so he's drinking coffee and exercising in between meetings.
	Wow.
	Yeah, really.
	But really the idea, because now I understand what this company is about, it's not about really helping you.
	It's about scaring the crap out of you.
	Well, there's that.
	If it was a 75, 80, 90% chance, maybe it would be something you're trying to go for the 10, but it's a 50-50 toss-up?
	Well, I've been reading a lot of medical...
	By the way, just not to keep interrupting you, which I'm doing.
	If you look up, it's just math.
	It's like a meme.
	It's just math.
	It's about social security.
	It's just math.
	It's just math, just math, just math.
	It's just math.
	Well, the human genome is not just math.
	I hate to tell you, because this thing...
	When did we decode this?
	In 99?
	The human genome?
	Early recent.
	And we still don't know how it completely works.
	No, but like 15, 16 years ago.
	And this is a parlor trick, according to many people who are familiar with this.
	It's like, yeah, if you want to know some parlor tricks about yourself, that's great.
	But what they're really doing, as I read this article, it's like Twitter...
	Where they're taking your DNA information, they want to have a lot of it, like 20 or 30 million samples of DNA, and then they're going to start to say, oh, now we can do big data, right?
	Throughout this whole article, big data.
	And then we can figure out what really causes cancer.
	Yeah, and give us some money.
	Yeah, and this big data thing, I've got to tell you, the more I hear it, the more I see it.
	I'm 100% with you on this one.
	Well, you're the one that kind of alerted it to me, and it has gotten to the point now where I find it a sport to see what Amazon is recommending to me.
	It is really interesting.
	They have no clue.
	They really do not know.
	I mean, yeah, they keep trying to get me to buy the diesel generator, which I looked at once and which I won't buy because they're all made in China, even though they say American Power Horse or whatever on it.
	That's the only thing they know how to do.
	They can do that.
	They send you the email like, oh, you looked at this, look at it again.
	And that sometimes works.
	My recommendation...
	Is if you can somehow get on somebody else's computer and go to Amazon and hope that it auto-loads with their account, which it tends to do.
	Start looking up weird crap.
	Plastic dildos.
	Look up all these crazy things that are just nuts.
	And then from then on, every time they go anywhere, they're going to get these ads.
	And they crop up everywhere, by the way.
	It's worse because you get the dildo ads when you're on just any old site that has like an Amazon thing.
	That's kind of cool.
	Yeah.
	Dildo ads.
	Yeah, so you go to some Reddit site and the dildo ads will start popping up while you're there.
	It's a great gag to play on someone.
	So I guess the only thing I want to say is that I'm kind of on board with this is just a parlor trick.
	Actually, I was talking to the voodoo doctor about this yesterday.
	You know, the applied kinesiology herb guy, acupuncture guy?
	Voodoo guy.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I see him every six weeks and I'm feeling good.
	I'm not sick in bed.
	But he says, you haven't caught what she has.
	A lot of people come to him with their 23andMe printouts, and he says, throw it out.
	He says, your DNA is not your destiny, is the quote.
	He says, all you're going to do is if someone tells you you have this gene, and you actually have this gene, and you're thinking about this gene, you're going to activate it.
	Well, I don't want to get on board with that kind of crackpot thinking, but it's possible that if you're preoccupied, I mean, this is the old trick with motorcycle riding.
	When you're driving around on a cycle, same thing with cars, but to a lesser extent, although a car with a race driver and you're racing around, they tell you to do similar things.
	If you're coming down a dirt road on a bike and you're worried about this huge boulder that is right there, if you look at the boulder, you will hit the boulder.
	Yeah, you will crash into it.
	Exactly.
	If you look to either side of the boulder and you concentrate on that spot, you will zoom past the boulder.
	And it always happens.
	So when you're focused on something, in this case you're preoccupied with your genetic mishap, it may be just like the boulder.
	It may be true.
	Maybe the guy's right.
	You could possibly, at least you're thinking about it too much.
	Yeah.
	So I will agree based on my bolder anecdote.
	Well then, you know, like the 54% and all that stuff.
	It's just insane.
	Yeah, we should put it in the red book.
	Sergey will get Parkinson's.
	Just put it right in.
	Yeah.
	Put it in.
	Good to go.
	Alright.
	I'm going to save this other stuff.
	I've got some Common Core stuff.
	I'll save that for Sunday.
	I'm going to have quite a...
	Oh, you also want to do the...
	We'll do the podcast patent thing.
	We'll do that Sunday.
	Alright, the podcast patent.
	Yeah, that's pretty fun.
	Yeah, because I wanted...
	That's what I sent you a note about.
	Because I want you to...
	Because you're the expert on podcasting.
	And patents.
	I'm pretty good on patents, too.
	I want to hear about this podcast patent situation.
	Yeah, well, pretty much I can just say this, that my name is not mentioned anywhere in any of the documentation, nor is Dave Weiner.
	This is the idiocy of not only the patent system, but of people who feel they need to defend something, which really does no one any good.
	Other than just like, yeah, we got to do another lawsuit and other people paid for it.
	To me, the whole thing is a waste of energy.
	But I do want to get into it and explain it, so I'll be happy to do that on Sunday.
	A winner.
	Yeah, a winner for sure.
	Alright.
	What did I have here?
	I had...
	I think we're done.
	Yeah, I think we're done, too.
	I have, like, the...
	Well, maybe this ISS thing will just be nice.
	Just International Space Station.
	Quick 20 seconds.
	Swirled pictures from the International Space Station.
	The astronauts saw a strange and unexpected view out their windows.
	American astronaut Mike Hopkins tweeted, saw something launch into space today, not sure what it was, but the cloud it left behind was pretty amazing.
	And, boy, is he right.
	Turns out it was a plume from a Russian military missile test.
	Oh, yeah.
	Space wars...
	But nothing to see here.
	Could be.
	All right, so I've got a lot of patching to do here.
	This will be interesting.
	No, it's just going to take you a few minutes.
	Okay.
	All right, everybody.
	Make sure you go by that ITMbox.com.
	Take a look at that.
	And...
	John?
	Yes?
	Thank you for your courage.
	Thank you for your courage, Adam.
	And we'll have more of this type of analysis for you.
	And I think some new things will creep onto the radar now that the big show is over, as predicted.
	Everybody back to work.
	Yeah, finally.
	Well, it was time.
	We knew it would happen.
	And thank you all for the good karma for Miss Mickey's well-being.
	That's appreciated.
	Coming to you from the sickbay here at the Travis Heights Hideout in Austin, Tejas.
	In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from the very hot northern Silicon Valley, where if you didn't take your garbage out by now, you have to wait for a week.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
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