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556: Vape like a Ninja

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	He's vaped himself off of Skype?
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, October 13th, 2013.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 556.
	This is no agenda.
	Packed with collagen-inspired volume plumping here in the Travis Heights hideout, the capital of the drone star state, Austin Tejas.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	Those are Silicon Valley where leaves are falling.
	Why?
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	What do you mean?
	Isn't it fall?
	Isn't that what's supposed to happen?
	Oh, is that why it's called fall?
	Yeah, that's why it's called fall.
	We had five and a half inches of rain in the past 12 hours.
	Nice.
	Yeah.
	It was rather interesting last night.
	Driving home, we were invited to Sir Scott of the Armory.
	Sir Scott lives here in Austin, and as you know, he's the Knight of the No General Roundtable, but also he runs the Armory.
	And boy, does he.
	I had not been to his house.
	You have?
	We went last night.
	Okay.
	Yeah, the armory's there for sure.
	He's got guns.
	Not just that, but he's got that whole thing, the reloading station and all of that.
	Oh, those are cool.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Yeah, you make your own bullets.
	Or actually mostly for shotgun shells, but does he actually make his own bullets?
	45s, yeah, 45s.
	Nice.
	That way you can load, you can put whatever load you want.
	You can have like a real weak shot, you know, just poof, doesn't do anything.
	Yeah, no, I don't think he does that variety.
	It was great.
	His wife and their four dogs, lovely, and he had some friends over who, interestingly enough, were economic hitmen and didn't even know it.
	Most economic hitmen don't know it.
	And I even said, you know, so your economic...
	Well, I'm saying, when Perkins wrote his book, he didn't know it was an economic hitman.
	Yeah, and they'd not heard of the John Perkins or of Confessions of Economic Hitman.
	And then over there, you know, getting oil contracts in Uganda...
	Oh, yeah.
	And seriously, like, oh, this is great, you know, everyone's playing it fair.
	They're dog trainers by day, economic hitmen by night.
	It was very, very interesting.
	Yeah, if they've got to read the book, once they read the book, they'll get a clue and they'll be a little boring.
	They'll be like, holy crap, what are we doing?
	They had some good stories about Africa, actually.
	I'm good to hear them.
	Yeah.
	Well, I need a little more probing.
	We need another dinner.
	This is kind of the exact opposite of the Obat dinners that we have.
	Yeah?
	This is kind of like, hey, come on in.
	You know, I just dressed the deer in the garage.
	I got the shanks.
	I'm not kidding, John.
	Hey, what did you guys bring?
	Oh, look at this goose we got.
	Hey, there may be a little shot left in there, so just be careful when you chew it.
	Yeah, you have to be careful when you chew it.
	Mickey looked at me like, what?
	Actually, she knows because her stepdad was a hunter, so she knows to be careful for the shot.
	Yeah, you bite into one of those things and you're in trouble.
	You're over-modulating just a tad.
	I don't know what it is.
	It's almost like...
	I can turn it down at two different places.
	I'm not sure where to turn it down.
	You're overdriving.
	The gain on the M-Audio Amtrak.
	Ready?
	Yeah, okay.
	10, 9, just tell me when to stop.
	Okay.
	10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5.
	Stop, stop, stop, stop.
	That would do it.
	Yeah, it's just weird.
	I don't know what it is.
	Okay.
	So, yeah, no, if you have, I was, yeah, if you're eating in the country, even in the English countryside in some of these obscure places, and you get grouse.
	I've bitten into some shot before, and it is not fun.
	No, no.
	Have you ever had that?
	Did you actually bit into one?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, my God.
	I thought I had it covered because you kind of tongue it for a while.
	I'm good to go.
	Wait a minute.
	Is this another no agenda tip?
	Tongue your meat?
	Yeah, you better tongue that meat.
	How exactly does this work?
	How do you tongue the meat?
	You feel around in the piece of meat.
	Chew it gingerly as though there's shot in there and then go, all clear.
	And then he can put you away.
	Another no-agenda tip for the Armageddon.
	No, so it was really good.
	It was good.
	Good to know these people.
	Of course, you know, Sir Scott has been trying to get us to either come over to dinner or to go out shooting.
	Get them and the old boss together, and then you head out as the shootout begins.
	That would be such a mismatch.
	Probably.
	It would not work.
	It's not a good idea.
	Oh, man.
	How was your trip?
	Went to Portland.
	Yeah, you went out and back with a quick turnaround and all of that just to make sure you're back in the studio for the show, right?
	Yes, we go through a lot of trouble, the two of us, to make sure we do the show.
	We do miss a show.
	I mean, we do push it off sometimes, but it's rare.
	I think we've done it for at least a year.
	So I found a couple of things out that are interesting to me.
	When you were up northwest?
	Yeah.
	I didn't realize this, but I was in Oregon, so I was driving around, and Oregon is crazy gaga over one-way streets.
	And it's actually called a one-way grid.
	Oh, boy.
	And so the whole center of Portland, for example, is a one-way grid.
	So every street is a one-way street, one way or the other.
	And so you have to always have to go, you know, if you wanted to go around the block, you got to go around two blocks every which way to get around one block.
	Do you have roundabouts as well, or is it just the one-way street?
	Oh, thank God.
	Okay, all right.
	So, I'm from California.
	We can make one-way turns from a left one-way to a left one-way.
	You can make a left-hand one-way turn.
	So, I'm on a one-way street.
	I can make a left into another one-way street under the circumstances where I can make a left.
	You know how that works.
	In New York, you can't do any of that.
	You can't even make a right turn on a red light.
	And I'm always cautious about these...
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	You can turn right on red in New York.
	Just not New York City.
	Yes, that's what I meant.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	In fact, in Texas, I think, here in Austin, we can turn left on red.
	You can turn left on red?
	If it's a one-way going left, yeah.
	That's what interested me.
	Because I was reading, I said, because I was watching how people operated, and so I said, okay, everyone's making a left on a left, so I can make a left from a one-way.
	It's all one way, so I can make a left on a left.
	So I'm making these left turns, and some guy runs the light and makes a left turn on a one-way street.
	I said, this is terrible.
	Look at this guy just running the light, didn't care.
	So I looked it up, and according to the article I read, the only states that allow this, which is you're on a two-way street.
	This is what we're talking about in Texas, you're on a two-way street?
	No, you're on a one-way street turning onto a left-hand one-way street.
	Oh, no, you could do that everywhere.
	Oh, okay.
	No, this is weirder.
	You're on a two-way street.
	At a red light.
	No, that doesn't seem like you can do that.
	That doesn't seem like that's appropriate.
	It's legal in Washington, Oregon, Idaho, and Alaska.
	Yeah, all states that no one gives a crap about.
	Oh, they're pretty crowded in these towns.
	Seattle's not like a lame, you know, little person.
	No, that's true.
	So you're on a two-way street.
	People have to know this, because when you see somebody doing it, it's weird.
	Yeah, that's weird.
	And particularly if you're coming from the other direction, you see this happening.
	But, of course, you're stopped from the other direction.
	No, I get it.
	But if you think about it, why not?
	No, you're not stopped.
	If he's going through red turning left, then you're apparently coming from the other direction.
	You have a green, don't you?
	No, you have a red.
	I'm sorry.
	You've got a red.
	I'm sorry.
	You're right.
	I'm dumb.
	Everyone's got a red.
	You've got a red.
	He's got a red.
	And it's a one-way street going to the left, and he makes the left turn right and just goes right through the light.
	Right.
	It's kind of freaky to see it.
	I saw one guy do it, and I just, I didn't know.
	I thought it was a scofflaw.
	I didn't know it was, like, doing this legal.
	And did you roll down your window and go, you scofflaw, you scoundrel!
	Yes, I did.
	Can you turn it down, just another hair, John?
	You're just clipping the crap out of your...
	I don't know why.
	I think you need to turn down, I don't know, the output of something that goes into Skype.
	The output going into Skype.
	I got my mic turned down on Skype.
	Okay.
	And I won't yell so much.
	Maybe, yeah, maybe you're just overly excited.
	I'm excited because I've learned something new.
	Yeah, hey.
	I actually learned two things new.
	So, my daughter, she was stunned by this information, and she told me about it.
	She picked it up in one of her classes.
	You know that Yankee Doodle song, they called it Macaroni?
	Yeah, so it's Yankee Doodle until you stuck a feather in his cap and called it Macaroni.
	Yeah.
	You know what, I'm asking a rhetorical question.
	You have no clue what this means.
	No, no.
	No.
	No, of course not.
	No, and in fact, I always thought it was just a made-up bullcrap.
	When that song was written was the era when macaroni was invented, and macaroni became a slang term for things that are ultra-cool.
	No, no, no, no.
	Yeah.
	Really?
	Oh, well, that's...
	He called it macaroni.
	That meant he said this was cool.
	And everybody thought it was cool that he had a feather in his hat.
	But that kind of makes sense.
	Because, you know, you're the Mac Daddy.
	That's a possibility of Mac Daddy.
	That may be a reference.
	Yeah, I think that's an extension of it.
	That's kind of cool.
	Of course, you know, we all think about one thing on this show.
	You slaves can get used to mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese.
	Macaroni and cheese.
	Cheddar melted together.
	Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese.
	And I need to say one thing about this. - Yes.
	The amount of email, tweets...
	And other incoming messages that I presume you receive as well, John, that reference macaroni and cheese.
	People in restaurants, people at food trucks, people in weird parts of it, holding up powdered packages, prices.
	The mac and cheese phenomenon kind of goes unreported on our show after we started this whole thing.
	And yes...
	We have seen the Velveeta ham radio guy commercial the first hundred times it aired a year ago.
	So they just started a new, I guess they did a new buy or something.
	And you can see it, you know when this commercial is airing around the country because everyone starts emailing, oh you won't believe this.
	Yeah, no, we've seen it.
	Yeah, we've seen it a million times.
	In fact, there is a YouTube channel that has all those new commercials for Mac and Cheese.
	Yeah, the Velveeta thing.
	And it's not just a ham, there's a bunch of other ones.
	And every time I see that commercial, I listen to that guy's voice, I say, Adam could have gotten that gig.
	Yeah, I just did another voiceover, another audition.
	It was for Sheer Madness.
	A reality show on National Geographic about people who move from the city to raise sheep.
	You want to hear it?
	Sheer, I get it.
	I get it.
	Sheer.
	You want to hear it?
	Connery, Vox Agency, Sheer Madness, National Geographic.
	I already sound so enthused, don't I? As Natalie's wool business takes off, bad news could run her farm into the ground.
	They had an example, and it was a little kind of like a drawl, a little southern drawl type thingy.
	Oh, you can do that, no problem.
	Yeah, I thought, here we go.
	Connery brings home a working dog.
	And the dog isn't the only one in need of a lesson.
	All right, let's stop it right there.
	Oh, brother.
	Anything, anything, anything to make a dollar.
	Well, you haven't made a dollar doing that.
	Not a single one.
	Yeah, this surprises me.
	Not a single one.
	I think you could have picked up that mac and cheese gig.
	That guy's terrible.
	No, they never asked me.
	Yeah, I know.
	You had a different agent or something.
	No, no.
	I was never up for it.
	I have no idea.
	I don't know what's going on.
	I just want to start off with some observations.
	It seems like And I will have to ask you some questions about what happens if...
	Because now, of course, we've gone from government shutdown to not raising the debt limit, and it's going to be Armageddon, etc.
	But something very interesting happened yesterday, which I'm going to call almost a dry run.
	And I don't know if you were...
	You were probably traveling, so I don't know if you caught any of this.
	By the way, you flew, right?
	Yeah.
	Did you do opt-out or can't raise my arms?
	You know, I do the same thing all the time, and it's only one arm.
	And I always get out of it.
	It's no big deal.
	Okay.
	I have no idea.
	I don't opt out anymore.
	Okay.
	But everything cool?
	You breeze right through?
	Everything works?
	Yeah.
	No, it works fine everywhere.
	Good.
	So yesterday...
	One person gave me a funny look, but I said...
	I gave him sad eyes.
	Puppy dog eyes.
	I will say this.
	I will say this.
	This is interesting.
	The Portland TSA are douchebags.
	Piece of paper in your pocket.
	Get the piece of paper out of your pocket.
	Get it out of your pocket.
	Get everything out of your pocket.
	Piece of paper?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Piece of paper.
	Like tissue to blow your nose?
	The boarding pass in my pocket.
	In your shirt pocket?
	Yeah.
	And they said, get it out of your pocket, slave.
	Yeah.
	No, that's nothing, man.
	Listen to a recording here of the, this is Houston Airport.
	I believe it's George Bush, H. Bush Airport.
	Listen to this announcement, which is, I can presume TSA-induced, but it is a full-on airport announcement.
	Pay particular attention to your luggage and personal belongings.
	Unintended luggage will and personal belongings may be treated as a danger to the facility.
	Do not be persuaded by strangers or individuals you do not know well to take articles aboard your flight.
	You are also reminded that any inappropriate remarks or jokes concerning security may result in your arrest.
	Don't make jokes, slave!
	Yeah.
	Well, that was actually in play even before 9-11.
	I never heard that.
	An announcement?
	There was a couple of places around the country that airports had a signage.
	Signage don't make jokes.
	Hmm.
	Okay.
	Well...
	Never said you'll be arrested.
	Yeah.
	Get you arrested.
	Thrown in the brig, slave.
	Anyway.
	Arrested for making...
	Hey, that wasn't funny.
	Arrest him.
	And so anyway...
	Yesterday...
	And the only, of course, this is technology news which there's no technological reporting on other than some press release that was put out by some spokeshole which was then subsequently copy-pasted through Reuters to everybody else.
	the EBT, Electronic Benefits Transfer System, which is essentially a credit card type application for food stamps and the SNAP program, stopped working after a routine software upgrade, which I always stopped working after a routine software upgrade, which I always think you should do those Saturday morning.
	I think that's at 9 a.m.
	That's a great time to do your software upgrades.
	And in 17 states, as reported, including California, the benefits cards stopped working.
	And I was tracking this on Twitter, which is really, you know, you can turn on CNN, you can turn anything you want, but you do a hashtag, a pound hashtag search on Twitter, and I must have seen 300 tweets every 10 seconds. and I must have seen 300 tweets every 10 seconds.
	And now they got it turned on after hours and hours and hours and hours.
	But when you think about the total number of EBT's out there, this has got to have affected 10 million people probably.
	And there was no rioting, but I think it was an interesting run to see what happens.
	You think this was a dry run?
	Yeah, I do.
	This is Cybersecurity Awareness Month.
	And I'm seeing coordinated efforts of certain things.
	It does seem a little...
	I forgot what company was doing this.
	It was only in certain states.
	I think it was Xerox or some...
	Well, it's 17 states.
	Yeah, but it was one company in particular.
	Xerox.
	Xerox.
	Yeah, Xerox.
	And their idea was we were doing an upgrade.
	You don't do a slipstream upgrade in the middle of a financial situation like the government shutdown.
	You just don't.
	But not even that.
	The money drops on the first...
	The 10th and I think the 17th or something.
	So everyone has just kind of gotten their money.
	Is this a holiday weekend?
	Is this Columbus Day weekend?
	I don't know.
	Well, it's a weekend.
	People go out and they go and buy their stuff on Saturday.
	And you don't do this during working hours.
	Sunday after midnight kind of thing.
	Yeah, but they did the Saturday morning.
	And here's what the spokeshole said.
	Yeah, you know, we had a problem.
	And then here's the quote.
	It just takes a while to reboot these systems.
	What are you running?
	Server 2000?
	This is dumb.
	It just takes a while to reboot these systems.
	No, no, no.
	I feel this was a test to see how people would respond.
	To me it was, oh my god, that's a good test.
	We forget.
	We forget.
	What if the system just doesn't work?
	What if the ATM just doesn't work?
	What if it just doesn't work?
	Yeah, that's the problem.
	That's why cash is king.
	Well, there's a war on cash.
	And also, coincidentally, happened this weekend in the Netherlands.
	This was very irksome.
	Hold on a second.
	I need to bring it out here.
	They had mayors and members of parliament...
	Going out on something new, which is the only pin everything on Saturday.
	So you know in Harlem they have the pin stuff, which is the personal identification number, and you have your debit card.
	We've talked about this on the show.
	Some places don't even really want cash at all.
	Right, right.
	You bitched about this when you were over there.
	So they took, let's see, who was it that went out?
	It looks like mayors of several cities, you know, how they'll get a mayor to go out and do the big promotion.
	And the idea is, let's all use our electronic cash on Saturdays.
	It's much better for everybody.
	It works more efficient.
	We can do more sales this way.
	And, of course, it's much safer for the stores because then they won't get robbed.
	And so here we literally have the established government promoting the cashless society.
	Promoting it.
	Yeah, that's what they're doing.
	It's a control mechanism.
	Yeah, thank you.
	And this is exactly what we saw with this EBT thing yesterday.
	And then we have CNBC. I guess a report came out from Tufts University about how expensive it is to negotiate.
	The experts I spoke to say cash is not going to go away.
	Electronic transactions are clearly taking on more of the market share, but cash is still being used by a number of people, a lot of low-income people, certain minority groups, and the reason is is because they trust cash.
	It's tangible.
	It's something you can hold on to.
	It's backed by the U.S. government.
	They know it's good for every transaction they're going to do.
	One of the authors of the study at Tufts pointed out was the market is so fragmented with digital payment systems that people really aren't sure if I use this, will somebody accept it?
	So until that sort of shakes out, cash for many people is the best alternative for certain transactions.
	Are there things you can do to lower the fees?
	Of course there are.
	First of all, think about your transactions.
	So the whole point of moving you towards the digital cashless society is the fees.
	Like, oh man, you know, you really, you know, because a lot of people get paid with a debit card, which I think should be illegal, but their companies essentially give them a debit card and they put their salary on the debit card.
	Yeah, because the company's getting a kickback.
	Yeah, and that thing is full of fees.
	You use it anywhere and there's a fee being charged.
	Yes, fees, fees.
	There's no fees with cash.
	But the whole idea is to charge you fees when you convert your digital money into cash.
	And that's how they're really forcing this.
	I think the study said that lots of people are essentially wasting $1,000 a year.
	Poor people.
	By not using digital money, by not having a debit card, by taking their check and cashing it, and if they have a debit card by taking money out, being charged $4 a shot.
	It's a concerted push, but what's interesting, it's happening right now all at the same time across continents.
	You know what I mean?
	No, we've been following this since the beginning.
	I've always been.
	No, but this month, this particular month, in one day, we have the mayors doing that.
	We have this tough study coming out.
	And this is the one that blew me away the most when it comes to cyber.
	Now, I'm going to replay this trailer for October 27th on the Nat Geo channel, The American Blackout.
	It's getting really dark and we're going to have to light some candles.
	Are you doing nothing, too?
	Nobody's doing anything today because there's no power right now.
	No power.
	Nothing in here works.
	There's no way to see.
	It doesn't work.
	What are we supposed to do?
	Where's everybody?
	Woo!
	I've got to get some water.
	Wait, turn!
	When are you coming to pick us up?
	Oh, no.
	The current blackout is the result of a cyber attack.
	All right.
	I have to ask you a question first.
	So there's no power.
	Everything's done, right?
	Right.
	How does she get on the phone and say, Daddy, when are you going to pick us up?
	Well, I like how we see a news report on the television.
	That was my favorite.
	Yeah, how does that work?
	The telescreens will continue to work.
	Have no fear.
	Yeah, how do you have the TV working?
	The telescreens.
	The girl on the phone, put all the power, every power, all the power's out.
	Of course, you say, well, the phone lines will still be working.
	No, no, no, no.
	No.
	Cybertech takes that thing down.
	The girl's not calling anybody.
	And so, it turns out...
	By the way, not to continue to interrupt, but it seems to me to be much more frightening for most people today if the cell tower goes out and they can't talk all the time on the phone.
	Yeah.
	Well, yes, that would be quite frightening.
	But what was interesting is this theatrical event on October 27th called American Blackout.
	Just one month ago, in the United Kingdom's Gitmo Nation East, on Channel 4, we had Blackout.
	Let's listen to that trailer.
	Bing building our website.
	Ooh.
	Ooh.
	We are in the midst of a power car.
	Just everything has gone down.
	The transmission network of the National Grid has lost power.
	Little doubt in Westminster that we have been the victims of some kind of cyber attack.
	We've got a lot of...
	We will do everything necessary.
	There are police helicopters overhead.
	The National Main's electricity supply will be restored as soon as possible.
	Don't lease the platform.
	Everybody!
	Brand new drama, Blackout, Monday at 9 on 4.
	It's exactly the same.
	You gotta cut that piece out with the woman who goes whining about whatever.
	Who knows?
	I love it.
	It's exactly the same, even right down to the cyber attack.
	It's the same thing on the television, which apparently does not go off during a power outage.
	It's fantastic.
	Yeah, this is all to promote the smart grid.
	I mean, which, of course, it seems to me they're promoting it awkwardly because if you have a grid that's a national grid that's really interconnected the way it can be, like in the Northeast, and a piece of it goes down, the whole thing goes down.
	I mean, if you have a localized situation where you have some dam powering an area or one of those backyard nukes, Yeah.
	Powering a neighborhood.
	This is all academic.
	There's a name for it.
	It's the SMR. It's a small modular reactor.
	That's the official name of the backyard nuke.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Well, if you have an SMR, this is meaningless dribbling.
	Right.
	And by the way, the cell towers, I think most will continue to work because they're all independently powered.
	I think the cell towers will be okay.
	Unless it's an EMP strike.
	If you're a smart cyber attacker, you should be able to turn them off.
	If you're a smart cyber attacker, yeah.
	Yeah, we'll work on that.
	They don't have generators.
	They're using the power grid.
	Yeah, but they all have cell backups.
	I mean, solar backups and stuff.
	I'm pretty sure they have battery power.
	Well, that battery's not going to last very long.
	Not forever, but I'm pretty sure most of them run independently.
	Believe me, one of our producers will let us know who I'm sure has set these things up.
	But it's all kind of academic, John, because in case you didn't know, we are already under martial law here in the United States.
	No, I didn't know this, Adam.
	Yes, yes, yes, it's true.
	And this is our representative here from Texas, Sheila Jackson Lee, who, as you know, I love dearly.
	I think she's great.
	Yeah, she's the dumbest member of Congress.
	She's fantastic.
	Pretty close.
	There are not enough voters, members of Congress, that would vote right now today to open this government.
	It's something called a continuing resolution, but it's a bill.
	That you put on the floor that has been passed already by Republicans and Democrats in the United States Senate.
	This is not an idea of anyone over another person.
	Republican and Democratic senators have already voted for this clean bill that we could vote on today.
	We have martial law.
	What that means, and my colleagues know what it means, is that you can put a bill on in just minutes.
	What?
	I know.
	That was kind of what everybody says when they see this.
	What?
	Can you play that last part again about the martial law?
	Yes, we have martial law.
	Here it comes.
	Republican and Democratic senators have already voted for this clean bill that we could vote on today.
	We have martial law.
	What that means, and my colleagues know what it means, is that you can put a bill on in just minutes.
	My favorite is when she says, my colleagues knows what that means...
	My colleagues knows what that means.
	Yeah, we have martial law, just so you know.
	Wow.
	Maybe we do.
	I don't know.
	Maybe we do.
	Maybe she spilled the beans.
	That's what I'm thinking.
	I mean, she's dumb, but, you know, why would she say that?
	But there's a lot of weird stuff going on.
	If you look at the overall picture, okay, so EBT went down.
	I'm going to say that was a dry run test.
	Just do 17 states, so just see how that works.
	We'll check that one out.
	See how docile the public actually is.
	Yes, exactly.
	Then we have some dude in Arkansas who's been trying to bring down the grid with a truck or something.
	He's been sabotaging the power grid there.
	And of course, this news, bro, we've already discussed some of this, but the rate at which the Department of Defense is being kicked out, and this all kind of started after a year ago, when we had the Benghazi stand down and we had generals leaving without their...
	They're typical big send-off parties and people just fading into the woodwork and retiring and going away.
	And then we had Petraeus and just all this crap.
	Is this the nuke firings you're going to talk about?
	Yes!
	I have a very short clip that explains it.
	It's called Nuke Firings.
	Okay.
	I had a clip too, but yours is shorter.
	Yeah.
	The U.S. Air Force has fired the commander of its nuclear missile force.
	Major General Michael Carey was responsible for the Air Force's 450 intercontinental ballistic missiles.
	He's been reassigned over alleged personal misconduct.
	Earlier this week, the Navy fired a vice-admiral who oversaw nuclear weapons.
	He is being investigated over gambling issues.
	I have Diane Sawyer doing the report.
	Oh, is she drunk?
	No, but we should play the jingle anyway.
	Actually, she was so not drunk, I cut her out.
	See, this is much more exciting and important when it comes from ABC News, John, where it really sounds like everything is very, very high-priority and important.
	A stunning chain of events.
	Today, Michael Carey, the two-star general responsible for the nation's three intercontinental ballistic missile wings, fired from his command.
	The reason?
	Personal misbehavior on a military business trip.
	This comes just 48 hours after President Obama himself relieved the number two in command over the nation's nuclear arsenal over his suspected use of counterfeit poker chips.
	These follow an alarming string of general officers losing their jobs this year for inappropriate behavior, misconduct or lack of leadership.
	Let me just ask you a question.
	I mean, there's one thing to be using counterfeit poker chips and everything, but isn't the fact that you've got your generals hanging out in the casino gambling disturbing by itself?
	It has some level of amusement to me.
	Is this something that we all do all the time?
	Two Marine Corps generals fired less than two weeks ago for not providing proper force protection in Afghanistan.
	Which, of course, is not explained.
	An Army brigadier general relieved of duty for adultery.
	An Army two-star general fired for groping a civilian.
	Yay, baby!
	And in March, a Navy one-star removed for racially insensitive comments and abusive leadership.
	We are a bunch of assholes.
	We're just raping and groping and gambling and drinking and not protecting.
	This really seems pretty weird, doesn't it?
	I think this is...
	Alright, if we do, the world is upside down.
	Either these people are completely out of control.
	At the highest levels of the armed forces, which means that these wars and everything are completely screwed up because these guys are the leaders.
	Or there's something going on that we have yet to figure out to get rid of a whole layer of these guys so we can replace them with stooges.
	Let me go back to what clip that I just played before.
	We're under martial law, my friend.
	These guys aren't going along with it.
	Exactly.
	These are the guys who are like normal dudes.
	They grab some ass.
	They gamble a little bit.
	But the one thing they won't do is turn on the American people.
	They're like, no, we're not going to storm in and occupy the country.
	Oh, I'm fired?
	Yeah, I think these are guys who...
	This is a bit of an Alex Jones kind of a...
	Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	If you want to, I mean, you might as well just call me an asshole if you want, but yeah, that's fine.
	I mean, you can do that.
	Wow, that was really a low blow, John.
	It was unnecessary.
	It just seems to me...
	Now...
	But think of...
	No, no, no, no, let me finish my thought.
	As I said...
	Not Maxine Waters, but the Jackson, whatever her name is.
	Maxine Waters.
	At her word, Maxine Waters is the other one.
	She's actually Einstein compared to this Sheila Jackson.
	Yeah.
	Maybe we're under martial law.
	Should we be looking, doing a little more research into this?
	Well, we are in a state of emergency.
	I mean, we've been under perpetual state of emergency, re-signed every year since 9-11.
	But remember, the first guys to go were the ones that would not stand down when help was being called for from Benghazi, and then they were relieved from duty.
	They wanted to send planes from Italy, remember?
	Yeah.
	These are the first guys that went.
	Like, shut up, go.
	And then all of a sudden, you know, we have just, you know, I don't know.
	I mean, there's 30 more seconds.
	Hold on.
	For one thing, these guys will disappear.
	I mean, they won't get killed, I don't think, but they're going to disappear.
	Then they're going to have signed some document.
	Do you want your pet?
	Here it goes like this.
	You're the guy who just fired you.
	Wait a minute.
	Do you want your...
	You have to sign this nondisclosure about what, you know, all the bases, all everything you think might have been going on.
	And all the rest of it.
	And deny that you can't talk to anybody.
	So sign this.
	I said, you want your pension?
	It's like, you know...
	Oh, I think it goes much further.
	I think the pension...
	These guys got so much money.
	No, no.
	Yes, they do.
	No one would not sign that document.
	You want that pension?
	By the way, if you don't sign, it will also shoot you.
	Maybe you could have that.
	Yeah, this would get my attention.
	Last spring, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was so concerned about all the high-profile cases, he sent a letter to Pentagon brass urging a recommitment to ethical leadership.
	That was the letter.
	And believe me, it wasn't ethical leadership.
	It was get on board with the program, fellows.
	Hey, John.
	Would you like to buy some seeds?
	Interesting.
	Seeds.
	Well, now let's just take this to its logic.
	Get some water filters for sale.
	Let me take this to its logical conclusion.
	To its logical conclusion.
	Yeah, okay.
	Okay, so here we have the...
	Of course, everyone's talking about this now.
	Here's the World Bank president.
	...days away from a very dangerous moment.
	I urge U.S. policymakers to quickly come to a resolution before they reach the debt ceiling deadline.
	The closer we get to the deadline, the greater the impact will be for the developing world.
	Inaction could result in interest rates rising, confidence falling, and growth slowing.
	Now, but here's the thing.
	So the banks, there's some trouble with the banks.
	Always a winner.
	There's some trouble with the banks.
	And the biggest problem came out with the announcement, and I haven't done one of these in a long time.
	I hopped on the conference call, the quarterly conference call for JPMorgan Chase.
	Did you have the reporter going?
	Yeah, I have a clip.
	And so as we know, there's been some minor regulatory issues, just little stuff.
	And for the first time in, I think, like eight or nine years, since 2004, JPMorgan Chase reported a loss of $398 million for the quarter.
	This is the first time they've lost money with the genius Jamie Dimon.
	And I thought it was, okay, it makes sense that they've paid out $7 billion in minor regulatory things and fines.
	But when you hear the CFO talking here, it's unbelievable what's going on over there.
	At this time, I would like to turn the call over to JPMorgan Chase's chairman and CFO.
	I just had to keep this for you.
	And listen to this lady who's the CFO. She's pretty fun.
	And everything is lovely.
	This is the...
	Anything we say here can't be used against us.
	The firm made a net loss of $380 million for the third quarter on the back of very significant litigation expenses.
	So I want to take you first to page two.
	We've added this page for this quarter only as we want to be as transparent with you as we can be and give you as complete a picture as possible of our litigation reserves.
	Now, she's talking about litigation reserves.
	So this is a charge they took on this quarter's earnings for money they believe they will have to spend On litigation, and she's going to tell us how much that is and what this litigation is about.
	And the current perspective on the evolution of our reasonably possible range of losses for litigation.
	And as you know, as transparent as we would like to be, we are necessarily constrained in what we can actually say.
	Having said that, on page two...
	What she's saying is she can't tell you everything.
	Why?
	Because they're constrained by the negotiations they're having right now with the government.
	The government has a gun to their head on these...
	Sorry?
	I don't like to do this, but can you hang up and call me back?
	I'm watching the packets.
	We're not losing any packets whatsoever.
	But Skype is cutting you out so much that it's getting to be incredibly annoying.
	I can't hear half of the points you're trying to make.
	Okay, so this should be better as we're back.
	So yeah, what she is now going to tell us about is...
	Yes?
	What?
	Can you hear me or is it not working for you?
	You know what I did?
	I made a mistake.
	What did you do?
	What's your mistake?
	I hit the call answer with video and so I got this stupid thing on the screen.
	Okay.
	What stupid thing?
	Oh, no.
	All right.
	Well, let's do it again, then.
	So what we are about to hear from the happy chipper British woman is how much money they have reserved which results in this loss and of course they can't tell you everything that's going on and this came out like a day before the earnings all of a sudden like boom we're going to lose money it's horrible we can't tell you exactly what's going on but wait until you hear how much money.
	I'll start by saying that we appreciate that the litigation expense What?
	Yeah, so this is part of the...
	They've already spent seven.
	The litigation has spent nine point...
	I think she said two billion dollars.
	It's much more significant than you've been expecting.
	It's much more significant than we expected until very recently.
	The reality is that over the last few weeks, the environment has become highly charged and very volatile.
	Highly charged and very volatile.
	We're talking about...
	JP Morgan Chase and Jamie Dimon, golden boy of Wall Street.
	So they are blackmailing.
	They're doing something.
	Something's up.
	Well, I'll give you the number and then we'll just finish this in the last 44 seconds.
	$23 billion they've had to reserve for litigation, for interest on penalties, and it all relates back to mortgage-backed securities.
	Things have been very fluid.
	And the situation escalated to the point where we're facing very large premiums and penalties, the level of which has gone far beyond what we reasonably expected.
	However, those are the facts we're dealing with today in our reserving actions this quarter, and are trying as far as possible to put these issues behind us.
	So let me quickly take you through the table on the top of page two, which is a roll forward of our reserves.
	We started 2010 with $3 billion in reserves, Added around $28 billion through the third quarter, including the actions this period, and have settled a little less than $8 billion across matters, which leaves us with $23 billion approximately of ending reserves, which relates to a broad range of matters and includes a significant reserve for mortgage-related matters, including both securities and repurchase litigation.
	These guys are effed.
	Well, that's weird because the stock is actually...
	No, it went up!
	It went up!
	Yeah, the stock went up.
	I don't understand.
	How does this work?
	What is going on?
	This to me...
	I didn't record all of the...
	I mean, I recorded all the call, but I don't have any more clips.
	A couple of questions came in about CCAR. And CCAR is something that is taking place in this month as well, which is the Comprehensive Capital Analysis and Review.
	This is an annual exercise the Fed does to ensure institutions have robust, forward-looking capital planning processes that account for their unique risks and sufficient capital to continue operations throughout times of economic and financial stress.
	So this is taking place this month, and one of the questions about the CCAR for JP Morgan Chase was, are you also prepared for a counterparty failure?
	Which would be very similar to the Lehman meltdown of 2008.
	So I'm just taking all this stuff, John.
	I'm looking at the EBT thing.
	It's Cybersecurity Awareness Month.
	We've got all this blackout crap.
	And then this stuff is happening?
	I don't know.
	You think something's up.
	There may be.
	It just may be.
	We've got the World Bank guys saying, I mean, what really happens if we don't raise the debt limit in five days or whatever?
	What really happens?
	Can you end?
	Because no one is talking about what really happens.
	I mean, do the banks just start to explode and ATMs don't work?
	What really happens?
	What really happens?
	Well, it means that we can't expand the government because most of what we're dealing with here is new programs that have been promised.
	And we just take the income that comes in from taxes and pay our bills.
	But we can't pay any new bills.
	Right.
	But this is not what the bankers are saying.
	Nobody knows what's going to happen.
	That's why nobody's saying this.
	But we do have an income in this country that's a huge one.
	And we do have an outflow, which is a huge one.
	We just can't borrow more money to pad the thing.
	We just pretty much have to spend what we get in.
	Saturday, Jamie Dimon said banks are already spending, quote, huge amounts of money preparing for the possibility of a default, which he said would threaten the global recovery.
	And this apparently has to do with the repo market.
	The repo market, I guess there's this kind of shadow banking system...
	Where cash is borrowed and leveraged at 40 or 50 times the rate and the treasury securities or treasuries are being used to securitize those loans and if that would change for some reason if the interest rates would change that apparently would undermine the Fragile system.
	The house of cards.
	Yes.
	The dominoes.
	Exactly.
	That's the wrong word.
	The house of cards.
	Thank you.
	Fragile system equal house of cards.
	Yes.
	That's what I'm reading.
	Well, I don't know.
	I don't think this is going to happen.
	I think this is a bluff.
	By whom?
	Who's the bluff by?
	I think it's by everybody.
	I think the Democrats are bluffing, the Republicans are bluffing, the President's bluffing.
	They're all trying to make the other guys look bad.
	This is the kind of government we have working for us.
	We have Republicans blamed for everything by the President.
	Each side has their little bullcrap.
	According to the President, the Republicans want to take it or leave it.
	You have to do everything we say.
	Hello?
	And then the Republicans say, is my way or the highway, according to Obama?
	They say, Obama, just see, we're trying to meet with him.
	He says, it's my way or the highway.
	So both sides are pretty much saying the same thing about the other side.
	And what's ironic, of course, is that the Republicans are doing the worst job of public relations on this.
	And they look like the bad guys because, you know, they're against, you know, health care.
	It makes them look, they just do really mediocre publicity.
	Yeah, they do kind of look like incredible a-holes.
	Yeah, they put themselves in this position.
	Both sides are the a-holes, but it's beside the point.
	Hold on a second, John.
	Before you go anything.
	Okay, we're back.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	All right, so while we had the recording on pause, we figured it all out.
	We know exactly what's happening.
	It's too bad we can't share it with anybody.
	Yeah, it's a shame.
	It was too complicated.
	Yeah.
	You were basically saying that this is all one big bluff.
	And this has always been our thesis that this is just one big show.
	It's all for media attention.
	But when you get bankers getting in on it, that's new.
	Yeah, but don't forget my other thesis, which is the idea is you can make the market move up and down.
	You can make a lot of money.
	Yeah, but this is what I don't understand.
	Because the market, unless they're all short on the market and they're ready for it, the market has only been kind of going up, hasn't it?
	The market wants to go up.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But the numbers don't make sense.
	There's no reason for the market to want to go up so much because it's really...
	We're still in kind of a stagnant era, but okay.
	Right.
	Well, okay.
	So you're saying all of this is being done just for personal profit and gain?
	That would be my basic thesis about everything.
	And I'm down with it.
	It's just like, wow, okay.
	So this is the biggest pump and dump I've seen in a while.
	This kind of beats 50 cents pump and dump.
	You have lots of money.
	Pump and dump schemes generally involve penny stocks, and it's like you can move them pretty quickly.
	But if you have billions of dollars to move in and out of the market, you can't just casually do that.
	No.
	Because it moves the market too much.
	But if you have the market pre-moved by a bunch of bull crap, then you can make these kinds of moves.
	It's funny because we were at, on Friday, Ms.
	Mickey and I were at Ride, which is where, you know, I'm still doing it, John, twice a week going to the spin class.
	And so the owner and his, I think his wife owns it or whatever, they own it together.
	But he's a banker and he is in New York.
	He works for Deutsche Bank and he's in New York, I think three or four days out of the week.
	And then he has an apartment there and he flies back to Austin for the other half of the week throughout the weekend.
	And he's always on the phone.
	He's a nice guy.
	We're supposed to have dinner that hasn't worked out, whatever.
	But whenever I see him walking out of the parking garage, he's always pacing outside.
	You know how I used to be in the pod show days, remember?
	Outside smoking?
	Smoking on the phone the whole time.
	Phone to my head.
	You're on a conference call or some crap like that.
	And he's even noticing himself that this is kind of weird.
	He says, oh, I'm sorry.
	Because he participates in some of the classes.
	He said, oh, there it was again, on the phone, you know, and I said, yeah, bank or so, yeah, bank or so.
	I said, this must be a great business, you know, get all that free money and then, you know, you just get to invest it and you borrow it for 0.03% and then you make 2% on it.
	And he looks at me and goes like, you're not one of those in the Fed guys, are you?
	Yeah.
	And I'm like, oh shit.
	And I pulled a Dvorak.
	I went, no!
	No, man.
	I think we should be doing $800 billion into the market every month.
	I don't think we're doing enough.
	We've got to get out of this.
	We've got to pump in 10 times as much.
	And he went like, you could just see him going really confused.
	Like, wait a minute.
	Does this guy really know what's going on?
	It was the best thing ever.
	So thank you.
	Thank you for saving me.
	You're welcome, and I stick with that.
	I'm not insincere when I say this, by the way.
	I know you're not.
	At that moment, if I say, yeah, I think we should end the Fed, we'll never have dinner with them.
	It's going to mess up any relationships.
	We can't have this.
	Like, yeah, no, no, man, I'm all for it.
	And go Yelly.
	Whatever her name is.
	Yelly.
	Yelly.
	She's going to rock.
	All right, but we have like five days, and then we'll see.
	We'll see what happens with the...
	It seems to me that if you look at...
	There's a video that's been floating around.
	I didn't clip it, but in the House of Representatives, they essentially passed a vote that made it so that no resolution or bill can come onto the floor unless it's brought to the floor by...
	I think it was Mitch McConnell for some reason.
	I don't know exactly how.
	No, no, no.
	It was McConnell, but Boehner gets to do it or something.
	Again, this only came in this morning, so I haven't vetted it all.
	But apparently, there's no other way it can happen, so they are in complete control of this process.
	And we know that several people have been voted in who said to their constituents, I will stake my entire reputation on killing Obamacare for you.
	And that's why they were voting.
	They're not going to change their vote because they'll get shot.
	Exactly.
	If you go to some little area and you promise some specific thing you're going to do because this group wants you to do it.
	And they say, okay, we're voting you in because we want you to do this.
	This is it.
	This is the one thing.
	It would be like this.
	It would be if I said, okay, vote me into Congress and I'll be your congressman and I guarantee you that I will work towards a legalization, federal legalization, even though it's not necessary, of marijuana.
	And a vote came up and I went, oh, well, you know, we can compromise.
	I would be railroaded out of town.
	If that's why you voted me in.
	And how many...
	That's, I guess, what they're calling the Tea Party.
	Which by itself is bullshit.
	Total bullcrap.
	Total bullshit.
	They would totally hijack something that existed way before.
	Yeah, let's remind everybody that the original Tea Party was really Ron Paul's operation.
	Yeah.
	And every time they took a straw vote on who should be the next president, it was always Ron Paul.
	Yeah.
	And when CPAC had a big meeting and they took a straw poll, Ron Paul always won.
	And so then they finally hijacked the whole thing to get Ron Paul out of there.
	Yep.
	And even at CPAC, they won't put his name up anymore.
	No, that would be bad.
	Yeah.
	And you've even got to question his motives at this point.
	There's so much weirdness going on in the world.
	But regardless, they just hijacked this brand of the Tea Party, and now everyone's a terrorist, and it's just...
	The whole thing, it's like, I don't see it coming to a happy resolution, so we're going to hit that five days, and then what?
	No, they don't have the guts, literally, to see what would happen if they actually failed to raise the debt limit.
	All right, so you're putting that in the book?
	Yeah.
	No, they'll do it.
	It'll be at the last minute.
	Right.
	It'll be like for six months or something.
	They'll do some little thingy, right?
	Yes, a continued resolution.
	And then everybody will take credit for it.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Obama will take credit for it.
	No, no, no.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	If, at the last minute...
	There's some form of resolution and the limit is raised.
	You and I take credit for it, my friend.
	Okay.
	We did it.
	We saved the entire economy of the world from the brink.
	But someone's going to profit.
	I guarantee it.
	Yeah, it's not going to be us because we don't know what the hell we're doing.
	No, we don't know what we're doing.
	That's okay, because we have...
	We don't know how to analyze news, we just don't know how to profit from these scams.
	We do, however...
	Because we're not inside the scam, that's the problem.
	No, we're not.
	But we have people who support this program, and that's why I'd like to say...
	Oh, it's funny you'd say that.
	Good morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	It's funny you'd say that because you know what happens after you reboot a computer?
	You need to open your spreadsheet again.
	I have to go all the way back into the mail system.
	That's okay.
	I have to log in.
	Let me explain how this works.
	I have to log in, and then I have to scroll down until I find Eric the Shill's spreadsheet in there.
	And then I have to click on the download button and open with Microsoft Excel, and then it opens.
	That's what I have to do.
	And in the morning to you, Adam Curry, and in the morning to all the ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
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	We highly appreciate all of that.
	And I would like to remind everybody that in the case of Armageddon, I am reachable KF5SLN on APRS. APRS is, I'm monitoring all the time now.
	It is the universal messaging system that does not need any power.
	We'll need some sort of power.
	Well, battery power.
	It functions fine on radio frequencies.
	There is no internet needed.
	Although, it's easier.
	I think we should do the show on that.
	On APRS? It's just text messaging, John.
	It's only just texting.
	We have to text the whole show.
	We're texting it in, people.
	I think we should, yeah, we should do the whole show on Twitter.
	I want to thank our artists, and we had a great piece of art from Chun Yi, C-H-U-N-J-E-E, Chun Yi, who we used, what was it, what did we have on 5?
	Oh, it was the big 5-5, of course.
	It was for our 555th episode, and we appreciate all the art that is submitted at noartgenerator.com.
	I had a meeting with the new...
	Lady in charge of iTunes podcast.
	She was in Austin.
	So first of all, she promised she'd put us into some promotional rotation.
	Nice.
	Yeah, she's great.
	It's funny.
	It turns out she's 24.
	I'm having a meeting with my daughter.
	This is the weirdest thing ever.
	She doesn't even know MTV played music videos, let alone who I am.
	I'm not kidding.
	Right.
	Well, this is better.
	I'm not kidding.
	Yeah, maybe.
	Get used to it.
	And so she promised us a rotation.
	Also, she said, when you start your new technology podcast, I'll also promote that.
	I said, good.
	But also she said, you know all the art you have?
	I said, why don't you put together a book for iTunes?
	You can give it away for free.
	You don't have to charge money for it.
	So we could still have our donation model in place.
	And you can, because apparently you can make these really amazing multimedia books or something, and she said it would be great for an e-book on the iTunes, and she would promote that too.
	Oh, okay.
	So I'm like, well, someone will make it.
	We should do that.
	Someone can do that.
	Someone can put together, get the tools and figure it out.
	I think it's a nice idea, and it's a fun thing to have.
	I noticed that our CD guy has been doing, he'd indexed the last show.
	Yeah, text indexed of it, yeah.
	Which reminds me, you know, when we started the show, Bubba Martin used to do that.
	Yeah, but Bubba died.
	Yeah, I know, poor Bubba.
	That sucks.
	But he stopped doing it anyway before he died.
	Because we didn't, you know, it wasn't as if we were using the thing.
	But nowadays, because the show is so dense...
	Mm-hmm.
	I think it's more important than ever.
	Did we say that in show 540 or was it 541?
	We can't go back.
	It's horrible.
	The indexing is nice because it's not a full transcript.
	It talks about what the topic was.
	Right.
	That's what you want.
	Yeah.
	But also, if you go to search.nashownotes.com, you'd be pretty amazed how quickly you can come up with a range of episodes where something was discussed just based upon the clips, which are indexed, and the show notes.
	You can come pretty close.
	But, yeah, the No Agenda CD guys are fantastic.
	Yeah, he probably knows more about the show than we do.
	Yeah.
	In fact, I call him up.
	Hey, what should I do today?
	No idea what to do.
	We do have to thank a few producers.
	Executive producers, the way the program works is just like Hollywood.
	We hand out executive producer and associate executive producer credits.
	These are real credits.
	Unlike the phonies in Hollywood, we back it up.
	We can vouch for you.
	You can put it on your LinkedIn.
	Anywhere credits are accepted, they are valid.
	And I do have to make mention of this.
	We thank and read the notes of all the execs and associate execs.
	In our donation segment, we choose...
	Just for speed, to mention names and amounts for full transparency.
	Sometimes we'll highlight a note, but please don't get mad if we don't read your note.
	Because we really just, there's other stuff to do in the show.
	Right, and everyone agreed that this is a good idea.
	Yes, we went through quite a process on this.
	Duke of Silicon Valley, Sir David Foley's back again.
	Hey!
	With $556.55 for show 556, so he's a 556 Club member.
	Nice.
	ITM, John and Adam, please find my Club 556 donation and 55 cents extra to celebrate my birthday.
	This week we had one No Agenda listener take me up on the value for value proposition using the No Agenda discount code at 4kspecial.com where I will continue to give No Agenda listeners $50 discount on 4K equipment and match any purchase with a $50 donation to the showkeeper of the best podcast in the universe, the Duke of Silicon Valley.
	Thank you very much, Sir David Foley.
	Highly appreciated as always.
	And everyone should go buy a 4K set from him.
	Yeah.
	Now, he sells the...
	Does he sell monitors or just the boxes?
	You have to go to his website, 4kspecial.com, and find out.
	All right.
	I'm going to do that right now.
	JerryZach34567 in Electra, Texas, one of my favorite named towns.
	And he says, trust me, Elektra needs as much advertisement as it can get.
	So yeah, he says TV displays, players, accessories, bundle deals.
	Yeah.
	Nice.
	See, this is what you just short-sheeted Elektra Texas.
	Sorry.
	Where's Elektra Texas anyway?
	I know it's not right up the street from you.
	I don't think I've been through Elektra Texas.
	It's a great name for a town.
	It is...
	Let me see.
	Wichita County?
	Hmm.
	No, that can't be right.
	I'll move on.
	David Julian, 33333 in Morgan Hill, California, which is right down the street from me.
	And he wants this comment to be read on the air.
	And he's got it quoted.
	And it reads like this.
	Blue.
	Fire hydrant?
	No agenda.
	Okay.
	I guess he's sending code to the Russians.
	I have no idea.
	Did a nuke just launch somewhere?
	What that's all about.
	Nice.
	All right.
	Richard Garrett, $304.43 out of Thunder Bay, Ontario.
	In the morning, John and Adam, holy crap, I'm a knight.
	I was only $191 away from Nighthood, but I thought I'd be fun to do one of those long-winded notes that accounts for what makes up the donation.
	So here's $304.43 for which $191.64 is for Nighthood, $66.66 for the show's 6th anniversary, $33.33 for my podcast license, $11.11 to make it rain, a buck for John's next plastic musical instrument purchase at Target, and finally, $69 for a baby Swazilov.
	I'm in my sophomore year as a political science student after getting laid off...
	Two months ago from my crappy government mailroom job with a big, fat, juicy severance package.
	So the least I could do is share some of that Ontario government dole with you guys for keeping me sane over the last couple of years.
	Can I get a big shout?
	Big shout, I'm sorry, shot of getting laid midterm term papers karma to relieve some stress and help the crunch time soon approaching.
	Here's to six awesome years and many, many more.
	Keep up the great work.
	Sir Richard Garrett, Thunder Bay.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Yay!
	You've got karma.
	Wow.
	Thank you, Sir Richard Garrett.
	Christopher Hefley, 26666 in Galley in Ohio.
	Adam and John, I felt a long past time to donate again since my Tom Sawyer ticket karma worked so well, like back in the summer, two front rows.
	If any listener wonders if the karma works, the answer is a resounding yes!
	It even works just thinking about it.
	I was going to donate a couple of weeks ago to ask for more ticket karma to get a good seat at the Notre Dame versus USC game.
	And I ended up getting seats very close to the 50-yard line.
	So then I knew it was time to give back to the best podcast in the universe.
	So I wanted to give my own sack of sixes.
	So hence the 26666.
	I would like to ask for some job karma for my beautiful wife, Heidi, as well as a happy birthday wish for her.
	It's on Wednesday.
	If you could play the mac and cheese jingle with John talking about the slaves and follow it up with the Japanese guy saying stop laughing at that conference.
	It would be sweet.
	Please keep up the great work and everybody please donate.
	I cannot imagine a day without this podcast.
	You two are the best.
	Your wish is my command.
	You slaves can get used to mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	and cheese, cheddar, melted together.
	Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese.
	Don't laugh.
	Why are you laughing?
	Shut up.
	I think you're supposed to add a karma to that.
	Yeah.
	Here's the karma.
	Don't worry.
	Shut up.
	Karma.
	Why are you laughing?
	Shut up.
	Don't laugh.
	That was the Japanese Minister of Tourism, I think.
	Stop laughing.
	Mark Randall, 21312 in Halifax, Nova Scotia.
	Thank you for your courage, John and Adam.
	By my calculation, this should complete my knighthood.
	Great job on the show.
	Got a book for you, The Terror Factory, all about the FBI creating terrorists out of imbeciles.
	Oh, The Terror Factory.
	Nice.
	Yeah, it sounds like a book to read.
	The couple arrested in Canada for plotting a July 1st Canada Day terrorist bombing fits the cycle perfect as neighbors report the couple being too stupid to make bombs.
	We'd love to get some more karma and a fractal if you can find it.
	And he has his accounting here for now.
	Oh, yes, absolutely.
	Fractal.
	You've got karma.
	Nice.
	The Terror Factory.
	I'm going to look that one up.
	It sounds like an interesting...
	Good old bearer, Borislav Marinov out of Eliso Viejo, California.
	Can you send some house-buying karma so I don't get outbid?
	This is what's happening now again.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And the sellers accept my lowball.
	Thank you for congratulations on your sixth.
	Yeah, lowball karma coming your way, Borislav.
	You've got...
	Not enough.
	And finally, Sir Upstart Josh Charles in East Melbourne, Victoria, $200, and he says there's a note.
	I can't find it anymore.
	I have the note.
	So somehow, Sir Upstart Josh and a cast of thousands there have created SlaveMart.co, and I think we promoted it, but then we kind of lost touch with it.
	Have you seen this?
	SlaveMart.co?
	This is a store, and this is a store with essentially their own made-up, no-agenda swag.
	Let me just go to it myself.
	And they've made fantastic shirts with designs I've never seen before.
	Everything costs $33, of course.
	We want you to shut up, slave.
	Have you seen this thing?
	I'm looking at it now.
	Every model's picture's got a guy given the finger.
	With a gas mask.
	With a gas mask.
	But there's like a shirt to all ships at sea in the morning.
	So this is in Australia, so this makes things easier to ship stuff there.
	I'm assuming.
	I think so.
	I don't know.
	It's an Australian operation.
	It is an Australian operation, isn't it?
	Those would be $33 Australian dollars.
	Good group of shirt designs, including...
	Some of these are very artistic.
	They're very artistic.
	Like the attack of the killer drones.
	Yeah.
	It's got a poster.
	You should send me a copy of this poster.
	So somehow, I don't know, we didn't...
	Actually, they were very mad And I sent a very mad email.
	Look at the picture of the guy who gave him the fingers.
	He's obviously mad all the time.
	I know.
	And then he said, like, you don't support the store, and we've got money.
	And I'm like...
	Sounds like Eric.
	No!
	And maybe it is Eric with the gas mask on.
	I don't know.
	But I was like, oh man, but yeah.
	And then I went and they had closed the store.
	They were so mad.
	They were like, password only.
	I'm like, I don't know, man.
	So I said, I'm sorry.
	You know, we suck.
	I don't know.
	It's like, you know, sorry, dude.
	We're kind of busy, like, doing the show.
	That's what we're good at.
	I like this Attack of the Killer Drones poster.
	Yeah, it is a nice one.
	It is a nice one.
	So we highly appreciate what you guys are doing, and we put you...
	Oh, there's a picture of the poster on a wall.
	Yeah.
	How big is this poster?
	It doesn't say.
	It's a nice-sized poster.
	It looks huge.
	I think it's probably a good poster.
	Huh.
	Mm-hmm.
	All right, there's your plug.
	SlaveMart.co.
	If you're in Australia, you want to get some swag from the No Agenda show, this is fine.
	You'll never hear from us.
	We approve.
	Yeah.
	We'll never hear from us again.
	God.
	He just dropped a $200 donation and he gets all the promotion.
	That's our vig.
	They've sold some stuff, apparently, and that's our take.
	Somebody there's an artist.
	Oh, yeah.
	Somebody's an artist, yeah.
	It could be, yeah.
	Somebody's an artist.
	All right.
	Well, thanks, guys.
	We really appreciate it.
	That's our donations from show 55-whatever?
	556, indeed.
	And we need your support to continue the program so we can bring you the type of analysis that no one else can because they're completely compromised.
	With native advertising.
	Thank you for putting that into the newsletter.
	That was a good one.
	Yeah, we should probably discuss that a little bit because it's disgusting.
	We have talked about it on the show.
	I didn't realize it was so rampant.
	And also, as a PR mentioned, Brad Ryder set up an IFTTT for us.
	You familiar with this phenomenon?
	No, I'm not familiar with this at all.
	IFTTT is If This Then That...
	And so he has added an IFTTT. It's a recipe.
	This is crazy stuff.
	But you sign up for this thing.
	And now, you know how we send out the bat signal?
	And if you have the No Agenda app, then you get a notification?
	Yeah.
	Beep, beep, beep, beep.
	So if you add this IFTTT recipe to your account, you'll get a text message.
	When we fired the bat signal.
	Nice.
	Yeah, I'm like, well, yeah, we should have had that ten years ago.
	Well, we're done so ten years ago, but that's fine.
	And it made even more sense, because last night, Miss Mickey got a government giant voice system on her iPhone.
	What did it tell her to do?
	Stay indoors, flash flood in your area until 2 a.m., There's no flash flood in your area.
	There was last night.
	Yeah.
	In your specific area?
	You're that low?
	You're at zero altitude?
	There were flash floods all over Austin last night.
	Yeah.
	But it was interesting because we'd never had one of those.
	And she has the new iPhone or the iPhone, not the new one, but she has an iPhone 5.
	And I guess with iOS 6, not 7, but 6, they included the government alerts.
	Oh, yeah, you got to do that.
	Yeah.
	And she said, oh, my God, because it was going like whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop.
	Because I told her, do not turn that off.
	You know, we have to know how this works.
	And this was the first time we got a giant voice system alert.
	Huh.
	Did it come in?
	Sound like a voice?
	No.
	Stay indoors!
	No, unfortunately not.
	No, then it just has a message.
	I'm like, how stupid...
	I mean, you should have been here last night.
	How stupid do you have to be to not know there are flash floods?
	It was coming out of the heaven with buckets, like swimming pools were overturned.
	I didn't need the government to inform me of the flash flood, believe me.
	But this is the dumbing down of the populace.
	Yeah, no, you have to be led around by the nose.
	Exactly.
	Otherwise, it's like, you know, what's the point?
	All right, thank you very much, everybody.
	Appreciate it.
	Our executive producers, associate executive producers, as you know it again, these credits are completely valid anywhere where credits are taken.
	And please continue to go out and propagate our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	And I would like to say thank you for your courage, John.
	Thank you for your courage.
	And today, by presidential proclamation, General Pulaski Memorial Day.
	Congratulations, General Pulaski.
	By presidential proclamation, International Day of the Girl.
	Today's the day of the girl?
	Today is the day of the girl.
	Might have been yesterday.
	I have Watermelon Head talking about that.
	He did a whole thing on it.
	This guy, he's over here, he's over there.
	I went to the State Department website to try to look for a clip.
	I couldn't find anything worthwhile.
	But he's at meetings, he's at conferences, he's in Afghanistan one minute, he's in Paris meeting with somebody the next minute.
	Then he's in New York City giving a keynote at some bullcrap seminar.
	He loves it!
	This is what he's dreamed of.
	He's traveling more than Hillary.
	This is what he's dreamed of.
	And he gets to do the same little, you know, happy international day of the girl thing.
	As the father of two daughters, I know, deep down, that is unacceptable.
	I believe with all my heart that supporting the rights of girls is the moral and just thing to do.
	How about kids in general?
	And as someone who sits today in the same chair, we're extraordinary women like Hillary Rodham Clinton, Condoleezza Rice, and Madeleine Albright.
	Yeah, three women who I do not want to bump into in a dark alleyway.
	Sat before me.
	I know that it's also the smart thing to do.
	Investing in girls is a critical part of our duty to promote prosperity, security, and peace around the world.
	Common sense tells us that empowered girls grow up to be empowered women.
	Hold on a second.
	Let me just write this down.
	Empowered girls grow up to be empowered women.
	Okay.
	What does empowering a girl entail?
	Empowered mothers, leaders, and innovators.
	They grew up to make the world a better place.
	Thanks to a number of global partnerships and programs led by the State Department.
	Okay.
	Wait a minute.
	Are you ready for the State Department's programs?
	Wait for...
	I love these.
	Like tech girls.
	Tech girls.
	Tech girls.
	Let's find this program.
	Tech girls.
	Hold on a second.
	Tech...
	Tech girls.
	I guess state department we'd have to do?
	Oh, yeah.
	Google already knows.
	State department.
	Let's see.
	Tech girls.
	Maybe we can get in on this if we wear a dress.
	That's what you do anyway.
	U.S. Department of State Tech Women.
	No, no, no.
	Empowering Girls.
	Here it is.
	State Department's Techie Exchange Program for Teenage Girls.
	You know, with all this bullcrap, maybe that's what a...
	Oh, now it makes sense.
	You know, this thing about Twitter has no women on their board and there's no women in tech and all this bullcrap.
	There's bullcrap.
	There's tons of women in tech.
	No, I know, but this is part of it.
	This is part of it.
	Now it makes sense.
	Now I know about this tech girls.
	You know, like the CEO of one of the largest corporations, a real corporation, not an on-paper corporation, is IBM as a woman.
	Yeah.
	You got Marissa Meyer over here.
	She's a woman.
	There's a bunch of women.
	A lot of the small companies are run by women.
	Yeah.
	A lot of them.
	Hey, I don't know about you, but my house is run by a woman.
	There you go.
	I'm not running anything here.
	I'm a worker bee.
	And Next Scholars.
	Next Scholars.
	Next Scholars.
	Yeah.
	And great USAID programs like Safe Schools.
	Safe Schools!
	We have made important progress.
	Yeah, good work, watermelon head.
	And also today, by presidential proclamation, Blind Americans Equality Day.
	And I would like you to know that we do a lot for the blind.
	In fact, we do five hours a week for the blind.
	Right.
	The show is...
	Yeah.
	Well, I got an email here from DavidTheTechGuy.
	DavidTheTechGuy.com.
	Hi, my name is David.
	I'm blind and autistic.
	Now, that's a combo right there.
	Hi, I listen to No Agenda.
	I'm blind and autistic.
	Congratulations.
	Yeah, that's the kind of, well, that's fine.
	Good for me.
	I don't care.
	I just got my twice-weekly dose of the best drug ever.
	No agenda.
	Ah!
	Now, think about it.
	We've looked at what the blind get when it comes to programming.
	It sucks.
	Oh, yeah.
	It sucks.
	I think we're doing a real service.
	Somebody mentioned to me, they said, they were looking at one of these government health websites, and it says, if you're blind, then blah, blah, blah.
	I said, you can't read this.
	How do you know that?
	Well, remember we were talking about the cadence of the guy in the Assistant Attorney General in Connecticut?
	Right.
	You believe there's a blind cadence?
	Yes.
	Well, DavidTheTechGuy.com says, I think I know why blind people have a weird cadence while talking, because we use a screen reader with a horrible voice called eloquence or deck talk.
	Unfortunately, we don't have much material in Braille, so we have to listen to most of our materials with these crazy, stupid voices.
	I believe that when we listen to the computer for years, we fall into this robotic speech pattern.
	I find myself having to yank myself out of it because I get teased at school about it.
	Really?
	You're teasing the blind autistic kid?
	What kind of an asshole are you?
	Ah, yeah, this is a...
	Yeah, this is the way it works.
	I'm not worried about teasing, but think it needs working on so that I don't look like a freak in a job interview or an important event that I will need to go through to get a job.
	I've been bullied because of my disabilities and believe if you take it in the correct way...
	You can make yourself a stronger person and build your character up.
	By the way, I want to be a sysadmin from the time I touch the computer.
	When I get out of high school, I'll do whatever it takes to achieve this and will not sap Social Security off the taxpayers of America.
	By the way, I'm 16.
	Would love to donate when I become free from my parents and have a job.
	I'll donate at least a knighthood.
	David, you keep going, man.
	DavidTheTechGuy.com.
	You keep going.
	I like this as a kid.
	16, in high school, listening to No Agenda, getting bullied, and just saying, fuck it.
	I like that.
	That's the kind of listener I want.
	Another day we might be overlooking, and Luke van der Helm sent us this note.
	Did you see it?
	It's Happy International Failure Day in Finland.
	It's funny.
	I was like, I don't know if I should do this one.
	I'm doing it.
	Yeah, talk about it.
	Yeah, I've been celebrating International Failure Day.
	Failure is the last.
	Their logic, by the way, is impeccable.
	Which is typically the Finns are now some of the smartest people in the world.
	Their educational system is the best.
	And they deconstructed the entrepreneurial system in the United States and it's based largely on failure.
	If you start a small little tech company, maybe you can get some money right off the bat and then you fail.
	If you fail once, you'll get more money for the next one because it's seen as a benefit.
	And so if you fail the second time, you'll get even more money for your third effort because you now really understand the situation.
	You know how it works.
	And the more you fail, the more money you get.
	And so they figured this out and they say failure is the last taboo in Finnish society, according to the group behind the day.
	They encourage people to cast off their inhibitions and lose their fear of messing up, which apparently is a problem in Finland.
	The many current business leaders have gone from one failure to the next, said the event's main organizer.
	The most interesting things are not success, but the often rough growth stories that have led to success.
	And it says the students say they believe that overcoming the fear of failure is nothing short of a lifetime, or a lifeline, I'm sorry, for creative types.
	So that's actually a good thing.
	And that's today.
	And we've had some problems with the podcast already.
	International Failure Day, that's right.
	I've failed at many things.
	Yeah, you can't help it.
	And you especially.
	What?
	Thanks.
	Sorry, you just leave me wide open for these gags.
	Well, speaking of big fail, this was quite a surprise.
	The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2013 is to be awarded to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, or PCW, for its extensive work for eliminating chemical weapons.
	You know, these guys, if anyone needs the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group, it's this outfit.
	They seem to look over all the news stories.
	What is everyone talking about?
	Let's give them a prize.
	That's how Obama got his award.
	Yeah, but last year they gave it to the entire European Union.
	No, right, because it was in the news a lot.
	These guys are terrible.
	The Norwegian Peace Prize guys stink.
	I don't understand.
	I mean, they had a brand, you know, it was Mother Teresa, it was Nelson Mandela, I think maybe even Martin Luther King.
	Let's take a look.
	I think, yeah, I think Martin Luther King got the note.
	The Peace Prize, I mean, this was a big deal.
	But it was supposed to be an individual, or, you know, it could be two individuals if they had like a partnership or something.
	But then, you know, who neutered these guys?
	I think it's the U.S. that's doing this.
	I think the CIA's taking over the place.
	Why?
	Why?
	Yeah, why?
	I don't understand.
	Why?
	So they can...
	So because the conversation right now is about...
	We've noticed this already.
	They have changed the entire...
	They've changed the script.
	They've changed the narrative of the Syrian thing.
	And this draws attention to it.
	And everything draws attention to whatever's going on that benefits us.
	I do have a clip showing exactly how the narrative's changing in Syria.
	And it's like I'm listening to this going, for one thing, this is a report on something that happened a few months back.
	And it's like, are you kidding me with this?
	And where is Mike?
	What clip is it?
	I got it.
	I got it right here.
	Human Rights Watch charged today that rebels in Syria killed at least 190 civilians and kidnapped more than 200 others in attacks on August 4th.
	It happened during a rebel offensive in the coastal province of Latakia.
	Witnesses told of entire families being executed.
	Human Rights Watch says Islamist groups, including two linked to al-Qaeda, led the offensive.
	The coordinated nature and advanced planning that went into this operation shows that this is not just the work of some rogue fighters within these rebel groups, but rather this was a planned attack against the civilian population.
	For that reason, we do believe that the abuses amount to, or may amount to, crimes against humanity.
	They certainly amount to war crimes.
	Mmm.
	Now, the thing you have to...
	When you listen to this report, which is definitely a narrative change to keep us off...
	Okay, Syria's over.
	We've done a deal with the Russians.
	Whatever has happened, has happened.
	And now we're out of there.
	And now we're going to turn the tables on these rebels with this new narrative.
	The question in my mind is when I'm listening to this human rights person going on about the crimes against humanity, when she says it was planned in advance...
	How does she know this?
	Is this an intelligence operation?
	They got moles in the place and they can give them this?
	I believe this not only happened, it probably did, because this is an ethnic struggle between the Alawites, and they mentioned that, and the Sunnis.
	Well, that's not a struggle.
	It's an attack.
	The Alawites have been sent in to actually attack.
	Well, you know, the Alawites are the Assad side.
	These are the guys that were sent in from probably Hezbollah or whoever, and they were attacking the Alawites because there's these two tribes that are fighting, and the rebels are all the bad guys.
	Now they're the bad guys, which is what they should have been from the get-go, and they're trying to kill the Alawites, and this is a crime against humanity.
	They're assassinating families, but this has been going on since the beginning.
	If we paid careful attention to it, but we didn't have the narrative we wanted to get whatever deal we got with the Russians, which is now over.
	And the peace price plays right into this new narrative.
	And I think that all of these have been playing into it.
	From Nelson Mandela to Barack Obama.
	Let's look at this, because I've just pulled up the list.
	And you'll be able to help a little bit.
	With the state of the world in these particular times.
	So in 1963, the Red Cross won.
	But there was 100 years of existence.
	So in 1964, Martin Luther King Jr.
	And they pretty much killed him right after that, didn't they?
	We had 1965 UNICEF. 1969 International Labor Organization.
	You have to remember, there was no prize in 66 and 67 during the Vietnam War.
	That's right.
	Not awarded.
	You're absolutely right.
	Why was that?
	Well, the narrative for the Vietnam War wasn't fully resolved.
	They didn't know quite how to deal with it, I guess.
	They could have given it to somebody else.
	They could have given it to Ho Chi Minh, for all we know.
	This is very suspect.
	That they just have a whole.
	66 and 67.
	Take a look, 66, 67.
	And also, well, 68, there is one, but who is Rene Kissinger?
	Then 73, we get Kissinger.
	There you go.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Hey, can I get one of these?
	How does Henry Kissinger, if you think about it, get a Nobel Peace Prize ever?
	And then Amnesty International got it in 77.
	Sadat in 78, which was combined with Menachem Begin.
	Mother Teresa in 79.
	Then it went to United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees in 81.
	Tutu in 84.
	Lech Walesa, 83, actually skipped him, just doing the big names.
	85, it was the International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War.
	Well, that must have been the height of the Cold War.
	Well, it was definitely before the wall fell.
	Right.
	Then we got Eli Weasel, who was the big Holocaust guy in 86.
	Then 88, United Nations Peacekeeping Forces.
	The Dalai Lama, because we're negotiating with China.
	Right, right.
	And we're trying to give them the needle.
	Here, we'll give it to the Dalai Lama.
	And in 93, it's Nelson Mandela and Willem de Klerk.
	That was the whole South Africa thing, okay.
	Then we got...
	We also had Gorbachev in 90.
	Don't overlook him.
	Kofi Annan in 2001.
	Now, look at this.
	In 2006, it was...
	What did Kofi Annan do?
	Wasn't he even part of a corrupt operation of guns for oil or something?
	Yeah, the food for oil.
	Yeah, food for oil.
	But think about it.
	How cool is the name Kofi?
	Kofi's cool.
	I mean, that's just a great name.
	It's macaroni.
	What do you mean?
	It's macaroni, right.
	Yes, Kofi is macaroni.
	And then we have a bank, the Grameen Bank, Al Gore in 2007.
	Why?
	With the IPCC. Yeah, look, it's the IPCC and Al Gore shared the Nobel Peace Prize in 2007.
	That's when the movie, it was movie promotion time.
	No, this thing's rigged.
	And then, so there's a couple people in between.
	We've got to grab the gun to their head.
	Hey, you want to live?
	Here's who you give it to.
	That's very interesting.
	You know, I might as well get into this now.
	So, here it is.
	Let me play this clip for you.
	Here it is.
	Listen very carefully.
	This is Erin Burnett talking about Snowden, and on the box she's got Valerie Plame, a known CIA operative, who was outed actually.
	Right, she's got a little more background.
	She just came out with a book, and so she's on a book tour.
	And they're booking her on anyone who's part of the Council on Foreign Relations.
	She's on their show.
	It's just hilarious to watch this.
	So there's a couple things that are interesting.
	One is I did some research on this award, which I want to share with you.
	But listen to what, now we know that she's CIA. So listen, there's something very specific that the way CIA people talk about Snowden.
	Now awarding the NSA leaker, Edward Snowden, the man responsible for...
	What?
	This clip is great.
	I know exactly what clip this is.
	I wish I had it.
	I have a follow-up.
	I have a follow-up.
	Top secret U.S. intelligence is actually being honored by four Americans who used to work for the U.S. government.
	They met Snowden in Moscow, where he has been hiding since August, to give him the Sam Adams Award for Integrity in Intelligence.
	By the way, it has nothing to do with beer.
	Now this came as his father arrived in Moscow to see his son for the first time since this happened, saying his son is now trying to look for a job.
	Up front tonight, former covert CIA operative Valerie Plame.
	You'll recall, of course, her cover was blown in 2003 at that time by a member of the Bush administration, and she is now the author of a new book called Blowback.
	Now, listen carefully.
	Good to have you with us, Valerie.
	I really appreciate it.
	Do you think Edward Snowden, I mean, I'll cut straight to it.
	A lot of people hear this.
	They're probably cheering for him, and some are just appalled.
	Does he deserve an award for integrity and intelligence?
	One thing we know for certain is we would not even be having this conversation about the appropriate balance of security versus privacy if it were not for Snowden's revelations.
	And President Obama had spoken about the need to have a really robust conversation about this because it goes right to the heart of the Fourth Amendment.
	I think, ultimately, history will tell exactly where Ed Snowden falls on that line.
	Okay, did you hear it?
	You probably didn't.
	What was it?
	She is CIA. Everybody in the universe is talking about Edward Snowden, Mr.
	Snowden, and all of a sudden she says, Ed Snowden.
	Okay.
	Now, Pooper...
	Is also talking about this award ceremony.
	We know that Anderson Pooper worked for the CIA. Right.
	This is admitted.
	Listen to Pooper.
	Breaking news.
	Tonight we're hearing from someone who has met very recently with NSA leaker Edward Snowden in Moscow.
	To some, the former NSA contractor is a criminal, a traitor, a fugitive from the United States, holed up somewhere in Russia, charged by U.S. officials with espionage for leaking secrets about the government's surveillance tactics.
	To others, though, Snowden is nothing short of a hero, a courageous whistleblower.
	So this is just...
	Just his script that he's reading.
	And now he's been honored by a group of former U.S. intelligence officers who gave him an award at a ceremony in Moscow.
	The award is from the Sam Adams Associates for Integrity and Intelligence, named for a late CIA analyst.
	Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern is in Russia at the ceremony.
	Just spent the evening with Ed Snowden.
	I spoke with him on the phone.
	How is Ed Snowden doing?
	All right, so when you're in the CIA, it's Ed.
	It's all about Ed.
	That's a great catch.
	Borderline clip of the day.
	I don't know why I don't want to give it to you.
	That's okay.
	But let me just get into the...
	First of all, I do want to mention that his script was the same as Aaron's script, only they had just reversed the order.
	But when they're both off-script...
	It's Ed.
	It's Ed.
	And so we know that this is a...
	Our thesis is CIA fighting NSA. And in the New York Times, they essentially admitted our theory.
	The CIA, in 2009, when Edward Snowden was working for the CIA officially...
	Thought that he would probably try to break into the NSA's systems to expose the NSA. They didn't tell the NSA. They sent him home They didn't do anything other than, well, hey man, you shouldn't do that officially, but maybe we can work out a deal.
	Don't do that.
	It's in the New York Times.
	Our theory has been essentially proven.
	Outed.
	Yes, proven.
	And I'm like, wow, this is fantastic.
	Then I'm like, what is this Sam Adams Award?
	So, you know, because no one asks what that is, and it's just like, oh, this is fantastic, and I'm looking at comments on the interweb, people going like, it's about time he should receive an award, this is great.
	I'm like, what is this award, the Sam Adams?
	This is the, according to the Book of Knowledge, given annually by the Sam Adams Associates for Integrity in Intelligence.
	And I'm like, well, what does that even mean?
	It turns out this is a part of GAP, the Government Accountability Project, which you can find at whistleblower.org.
	And I'm sorry, but this is bullshit.
	This is a non-profit.
	We have a couple million dollars in the coffer there, and of course I pulled the Form 990 for you.
	None of these guys, by the way, they're just as bad as I am.
	They haven't filed their 2012 taxes either.
	But if you look at what they do, what they tell the IRS, the Government Accountability Project is a 35-year-old non-profit public interest group that promotes government and corporate accountability by advancing occupational free speech, defending whistleblowers, and empowering citizen activists.
	Here is what they say is their number one, their proudest moment in their Form 990 filing for the IRS. These are the guys behind the pink slime scandal.
	This is what they do.
	So they are a lobbying group.
	They spend over a million dollars on lobbying.
	This is not some, like, really, oh, these are just CIA guys who are rewarding Ed Snowden for being such a great whistleblower.
	No, that's total bullshit.
	This is a lobbying group.
	They hold the gun to people's heads.
	They're at 1612 K Street, NW Suite 1100.
	Oh, gee, what else is there besides the Government Accountability Project?
	Well, We have Climate Science Watch, Architects USA. All the climate science people are at this address, including the Washington, D.C. Flores, which I find kind of strange.
	U.S. Department of Transportation Watch Group.
	These are lobbyists.
	Lobbyists.
	So the Snowden, something is hijacked.
	Well, I think the CIA probably hired the lobbyists to give them an award.
	Exactly.
	How about that?
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	And here's what the giveaway is to me, with you look at their list of all the people they've given the awards to.
	Where is Thomas Drake and Benny and Weeby that got all these NSA whistleblowers that ended up being tracked like dogs and their lives ruined and they went out of their way to stay on top of this?
	They never even were mentioned in this thing.
	No service for you!
	You don't get an award.
	Those are the guys who should be getting awards instead of this woman and some of these other people I've never heard of.
	Exactly.
	Let's look at Frank...
	See, Andrew Wilkie.
	Let's just look at one randomly.
	Craig Murray.
	Who's Craig Murray?
	What did he do?
	But the thing that really annoys me is that this...
	He's a political activist.
	Yeah.
	Okay, he's not even in it.
	No.
	If it's supposed to be for intelligence, it should be in the intelligence community.
	Where are these NSA guys listed?
	Anyway, go on.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, no.
	The point I'm making is that here you have...
	A CIA operation to bring Snowden back into the news.
	They had to bring him back, and so his dad went over, which is not his dad.
	Lon Snowden is not Ed Snowden's dad.
	He's like his contact, his handler.
	Maybe that's what they call it.
	Oh, yeah, he's my dad.
	That's the new term.
	He's my dad.
	That's right.
	Daddy.
	Daddy-o.
	I'm your daddy-o.
	So, you know, he goes over there.
	That got no traction.
	So then, like, oh, let's do an award show.
	And if you look at RT, they have video of it.
	And, you know, they had shitty audio.
	Then they mute the audio.
	You can't hear anything.
	They're having dinner.
	It's like five people having dinner, and that's an award ceremony.
	And they give the guy a candle.
	A candlestick.
	Which is the symbol for whistleblowing, apparently.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's leading to the light.
	The light candle, and you can see the truth.
	And this is like the J.D. Power& Associates Award.
	You can basically buy that.
	You buy the research, and J.D. Power& Associates will give you an award for whatever category you want.
	It's like the Who's Who book.
	My favorite.
	Remember that?
	That was a good skit.
	I was like, there's still going on.
	People still tell, oh, I'm in the who's who in tech.
	How much did you have to pay for the book?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I got the bound copy.
	Yeah, who's who.
	I got the bound copy.
	I just paid 500 bucks.
	I'll go to people's houses once in a while.
	I very rarely get invited out, but sometimes I do.
	And so I show up.
	It doesn't happen too often because most people that I know have a lot of integrity and they don't fall for this bull crap.
	But if I see somebody's who's who in America or who's who in California or who's who in tech or any of these phony books, I just think they...
	So they paid to put their name in this book.
	They're in there.
	You know, they wouldn't have the book.
	Who would have this book otherwise?
	And it's just the weirdest, you know, your name here scam.
	And it's filled with people.
	And they charge like 500 bucks.
	I forgot what the fee is for those books.
	But they give you the listing for free.
	This is how it works.
	Mm-hmm.
	You do get the listing for free, and then you have the opportunity to buy the book for $500 or $300 or whatever it costs.
	You can get different levels.
	If you want the leather-bound copy, you can get some more.
	There's no paperback version.
	And you get the book, and then you can put it on your bookshelf, and then your kids can say, oh, look, my father and my mother, they're so famous.
	And you can flip through it, and it'll have a bunch of details in there.
	I got an idea.
	I just had a money-making idea.
	The no agenda.
	Who's who?
	Who's who in quantum physics?
	That's a money maker.
	Imagine making any more money than that.
	Hey, I'm on page 33 of who's who in quantum physics.
	Would you like to see my penis?
	We could do a whole series.
	Would you like to be in the who's who of quantum physics?
	Hell yeah!
	What else can we do?
	The who's who of financial fractal analysis?
	What else can we come up with?
	The who's who in great lovemaking.
	The who's who...
	Oh no, how about the great love...
	Really, John?
	Is that...
	Man, the who's who of great lovemaking.
	No, I'm not going to buy that.
	How about...
	Took you forever.
	The who's who of jet test pilots.
	Daredevils.
	Daredevils.
	The who's who of black belt taekwondo masters.
	Yes, I am on page 29.
	This is an idea.
	You create a bogus title, and then you put your friends in it, and then you buy them for $50, $60.
	It's great.
	It's great.
	So, yeah, this looks like one of those kinds of things.
	Meanwhile...
	Well, they did the job.
	They did get a lot of attention.
	Yes, it's exactly what you want.
	You want to get the attention.
	They got the attention.
	That's all that it's about.
	I mean, unfortunately, it's on the network that can't buy an audience.
	In both cases.
	No, Burnett and Pooper.
	Oh yeah, those guys are done.
	They're totally...
	The rumor is that Piers Morgan is getting thrown out or moved back later and they're bringing in...
	Is his name Weir?
	Bob Weir something from ABC Nightline or something?
	No, it's Bob Weir from The Grateful Dead.
	That would get a better audience.
	That would be good.
	Because apparently Rachel Maddow is even getting more ratings than Piers Morgan now.
	Oh, that's got to be humiliating.
	Well, send that a-hole back.
	His career is over here.
	He never had a career here.
	Nobody likes him.
	He's a British snob.
	Yeah.
	Telling us how to run our lives and not to use guns.
	And how can we be so stupid?
	Yeah.
	NPR had a very good report, I have to say.
	They did about 10...
	You know, I've stopped carrying a cell phone.
	And it's working out quite well, I have to say.
	And you say this.
	No, it's true.
	I carry around, I have a third-generation iPod Touch with iOS 6, and I keep the Wi-Fi off until I'm ready to use it.
	And I've built up a nice little database of places that I'm at that I can connect.
	But, you know, there's no cell phone tower tracking or anything like that going on.
	And also, you know, just like, I don't need it.
	You know, you can get a hold of me.
	Okay, like you.
	It's like sometimes you say, oh, the newsletter, have a look at it, you send me a text message, and I don't get back to you for like 45 minutes, right?
	That's because I'm out.
	And, you know, does the newsletter get, do we proof it?
	Is it okay?
	Does it work?
	It works, right?
	It doesn't have to be instantaneous connection.
	No.
	And also, I find that I'm not, you know, if I'm in the car with Mickey, we're talking.
	I'm not on the phone looking at bullcrap.
	You know, we're listening to the radio or listening to some music or singing songs together.
	So it has enriched my life.
	You two sing songs together as you're driving down the road?
	We sing songs all the time.
	Together as you're driving down the road?
	Yeah.
	Who's driving?
	Mickey, usually.
	So Mickey's driving, the two of you are swinging your heads back and forth, singing songs as you're driving around.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Just without the radio, just us singing a song.
	Yeah, no, that's what I'm figuring.
	Yeah, true.
	True story.
	Anyway, so NPR had a big thing about, you know, of course, no one gives a crap.
	Everyone's getting used to it because that was the whole plan.
	It's now a punchline.
	It's a punchline on Twit, essentially.
	But the NSA knows!
	Isn't that like the punchline to every joke now in technology?
	But the NSA has the backup.
	What?
	It's not just on Twitter.
	It's everywhere.
	It's on TV shows.
	It's on sitcoms.
	It's on Law& Order.
	I think it's on half of these shows on TV. It's become a punchline.
	And they had something that I thought I would share because it was a good piece of information.
	Of course, it wasn't just pure NPR reporting that brought in someone else to do the research.
	Apparently, you would be surprised at the information that's available, who can get it, and for what reason, particularly those of you who are in the who's who of best lovers of the universe.
	History helps answer our question.
	Is it conceivable that somebody, someday, might try to use your digital records against you?
	Today, a television ad helps answer that question, too.
	How did our marriage ever come to this?
	The decision to get a divorce isn't easy.
	Lee Rosen, I hear that divorce lawyers like you are crazy about the Internet and about the rest of our digital world.
	Well, it's literally the floodgates of data have opened up to us.
	Lee Rosen's law firm is based in Raleigh, North Carolina.
	He says, you might not realize it, but North Carolina and some other states consider private lawyers to be officers of the court.
	So his staff can issue subpoenas a lot like prosecutors can, so they can dig up evidence on people like cheating spouses.
	Just the other day, Rosen asked his assistant to fill out a new subpoena in a child custody case.
	So we're going to ask for all the cellular billing and usage statements, right?
	Okay.
	He says they send out dozens of subpoenas every month.
	Read it to me.
	Please send any available geolocation, tower, or GPS data from 1111 to present.
	Perfect.
	Go ahead and print that one for me, and I'll sign it and we'll go from there.
	Okay.
	Rosenstaff subpoenas people's bank records and travel records and credit card statements.
	I sort of think of your credit card as the table of contents of your life.
	And he says text messages are like the whole book.
	Hardly anything proves adultery so easily.
	Everything is right there in the text messages.
	Everything from what time we're going to meet and where we're going to meet to how much we love one another to what we're going to do or what we did do in a hotel room or in somebody's apartment or the back seat of a car.
	Yeah, there you go.
	The Unabomber was right.
	I don't know why this surprises anybody.
	No, it doesn't surprise me.
	I think what you should do, though, is just make up an invisible friend.
	Another one?
	And then get a second account from some hottie.
	Put a picture up.
	And I actually have a fake account that I've been working on a project with.
	Oh, with a hottie?
	Oh, yeah.
	Are you a woman in...
	Don't tell me I had sex with you in Second Life, because that'll really bum me out.
	I don't do Second Life.
	Anyway, the point is that you could create a...
	The way to do it is you create a fake, and then you...
	And you create this phony affair that you're having with somebody, and then when you get busted for it, then you accuse the other person of spying on you, show all the documentation that this has never happened, and all they're doing is invading your privacy, and then you sue them.
	And take them for all their money.
	Take them for everything, yeah.
	That's got to happen.
	Excellent.
	So you're working on a project where you are someone else?
	You have a pseudonym?
	It's going to take me about a year to accomplish what I'm trying to get accomplished.
	And I'm going to write it up.
	There's a story, maybe there's even a small book.
	A giblet?
	A giblet.
	Very nice, indeed.
	I'm going to show myself all by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	In the morning.
	We do have a few people to thank for show 556.
	And in the case of this spreadsheet, it's 556-1 for some reason.
	Anonymous, $183.48.
	Three years into it, I still enjoy this show more than any other show over any medium.
	However, I recently realized that it could disappear at any moment if the analysis of some sketchy operation is too good, so to speak.
	Lucifer could literally get rid of Adam in a day.
	Yeah.
	By sending him a gift card.
	By a poisoned oryx sausage.
	This would ruin my day, which is why I decided to control this risk by selectively awarding certain aspects of the show.
	Oh, okay.
	This donation is...
	And he's got it broken up.
	By the way, you did have this anecdote about these devil worshippers.
	Yes.
	And I realized...
	I was thinking about this.
	What is...
	Why is Adam even...
	And they said they don't want money.
	They're not really a church.
	There's nothing.
	You know what my conclusion is?
	Okay.
	Wife swappers.
	I'm telling you, the state of Texas is crawling with wife swappers.
	They're just covering their tracks with this bull crap.
	Hey, get into the pentagram.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Wife swappers, you watch.
	Swingers.
	You come over here on this side of my pentagram.
	You watch.
	You know, that's what it'll boil down to.
	Well, I think that Satanism, that there is a lot of sexy stuff going on with it.
	They got sexy outfits.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Wife swapping.
	Wife swappers.
	We watch.
	Okay, I'll watch.
	I'll be on the lookout and I will report back.
	Sir Pate Snakes in 66-61, 66-66 is out of Amsterdam and says he's a famous, one of our famous people.
	Two sacks of sixes at 33-33-33 completing his triple knighthood and he wants the protectorate of Holland and Friesland.
	Friesland.
	Friesland.
	Wow, Friesland is a very famous part of the Netherlands.
	It's kind of like Wales.
	Right.
	In fact, I think the Friesland, the language, the dialect they speak, and Welsh, I think they might understand each other.
	I think it's similar, even.
	And he needs some fresh batch of karma to help his uncle recover from cancer treatment.
	Ooh, let me give him a special treatment here.
	Hold on a second.
	Here you go.
	Stop it!
	You've got karma.
	Cutting edge solutions in Scotland, Glasgow to be exact.
	88, 88, 88, 88, 88, 88.
	I am Eric M. in Cincinnati, Ohio, 83-43.
	Craig Porter, 69-69, hello.
	69-69, dudes!
	Jacksonville, Florida.
	And Kelly Pinnack in Toronto, Ontario.
	And that's it.
	69-69, dudes!
	Downward trend continues.
	We will not play that theme anymore.
	So if it really breaks...
	Then there's no more theme, it's over, it's done?
	Is that what you're saying?
	Yeah, we'll say 6969 if somebody sends it in, but we're not going to play that idiotic theme.
	Let me just remind everyone the genesis of the 6969.
	Of course, you already know what a 6969 is, and that's for getting laid karma.
	It's a soissonneuf, but that somehow became soissonneuf.
	And it is our swazzle enough getting laid karma.
	And I'm reliably informed it works.
	But, you know, that's just what I hear.
	Martin Peters.
	In Vianen, 6666.
	Vianen.
	Cody Holbert, Copperopolis, which is a cool little town in California.
	Kent O'Rourke is like a one-horse town, to say the least.
	It's like an intersection.
	Kent O'Rourke, Frostburg, Missouri, Maryland.
	Jason Seash in Portage, or Portage, I'm sure is how they pronounce it, Michigan.
	James Callahan in Portsmouth, New Hampshire.
	Brian Leslie in Bremerton, Washington.
	Very interesting little place.
	Richard Chow in Fullerton, California.
	And finally, Elizabeth Visser in Winnipeg, Manitoba.
	And these are all our sack of sixes for our upcoming sixth anniversary, which is on the...
	26th?
	28th?
	6th?
	7th?
	She says that she wanted to wish her smoking hot dilf husband Patrick a fabulous 34th birthday on the 13th.
	There is no better place to say it than on the best podcast in the universe.
	Thank you, Elizabeth.
	That's so sweet.
	And he's on the list, of course.
	That's always sweet when the women come in for their men.
	Colin Creswell in Alexandria, New South Wales, came in with 55-55.
	Also Marcel Joden.
	I think Shoden.
	Houston, Houston, right?
	Houston, B.C. Houston, British Columbia, right up by Spasm.
	Andrew Lemansini in Colorado Springs.
	Lemansini.
	That's Sir Andrew to you.
	Sir Andrew Lemansini in Colorado Springs, double nickels on the diamond.
	And so did Sir Dr.
	Sharkey, Jackson, Tennessee, double nickels on the diamond.
	And $50 donations came from Stephen Jansen in Kinsley, Kansas.
	Chris Rawald.
	That's Chris Tengsdahl.
	Can I give it a try?
	Chris Rawald.
	And he's in Norway.
	Christenstad.
	Mike Westerfield, good old Mike, 50 bucks.
	Juan Agito's Agitos Agitos, I'm sure is what it is, in London, UK, in Sokovy Alexander, in Moscow.
	And that's our donors for show, shortlist, donors for show 556-1.
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	And we need the continued support, and we're doing well.
	It'll be a zinger?
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	A zinger?
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	Dvorak.org slash NA. Donate enough to be a night someday.
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	And because of that, I don't think you'll see on CNN or Fox or ABC or NBC or in the New York Times anyone.
	I mean, the New York Times, it's amazing how they can report.
	That Edward Snowden worked for the CIA, was threatening to break into the NSA's files to expose them, yet the New York Times will not go out on a limb and say, hey, maybe there's a war going on between these two factions.
	Is that a crazy step to make?
	No, they can't do that.
	They can't.
	Why can't they do that, John?
	Why can't they do that?
	It's not good journalism.
	It's making suppositions.
	You can't do that.
	Now, you have no proof of this unless you get somebody quoted.
	Find somebody at the CIA who will say it's true.
	Ask the CIA for confirmation and see what they say.
	If they don't say it's true, we can't run it.
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	And also, they'd have to fire half the editorial staff who work for the CIA. Dvorak.org slash NA And today we congratulate Sir David Foley.
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	Happy birthday from your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe.
	And, of course, we have Sir Pate Snakes, who becomes Baron.
	Now, did he want it to be Baron Peer?
	Let me just see, make sure we have this right here.
	Where's Pate?
	Is that what he...
	No, I think he just wanted to be Baron Pate.
	Right.
	Baron Pate, but he will have the protectorate of Holland and Friesland.
	In Gitmo Nation Lowlands.
	We congratulate him on that.
	That, of course, will be in the credits in the show notes at 556.nashownotes.com.
	And, of course, you hear the swords coming out.
	That means it is time to bring forward Richard Garrett and Michael Randall.
	Gentlemen, both of you, have supported...
	The No Agenda Show, the best podcast in the universe, and you might have $1,000 or more, and therefore we are very proud to welcome you to the roundtable of our knights and our dames.
	And pronounced D, Sir Richard Garrett and Sir Michael Ramble, both knights of the No Agenda roundtable for you, my friends.
	We have...
	Hookers and Blow, Red Boys and Chardonnay, Hot Pants and Booze, Wanchers and Beer, Rubenes, Rummen and Rosé, Three Geishas and a Bucket of Fried Chicken, or if you want, some Mutton and Mead.
	We had mutton and mead last night, actually, at Sir Scott's dinner party.
	When was this?
	Last night.
	You had mutton and mead?
	We had mutton and mead, yeah.
	I find that hard to believe.
	Yeah, it was sparkling mead, and it took about six weeks to make, the mead.
	They made it themselves?
	Yeah, and mutton.
	We had lamb, mutton, lamb shanks.
	Lamb is not mutton.
	What is mutton, then?
	It's older.
	It smells, it stinks.
	Well, no, that's what we had.
	I'm just kidding.
	It stinks.
	Why does mutton stink?
	It's just lamb.
	The old sheep fat just stinks to high heaven when it's cooked.
	It's disgusting.
	That's actually the smell and taste of lamb that people don't like.
	It's got a little of that muttony quality.
	And by the way, I want to tell people out there, if you do a leg of lamb and you want to try something interesting, actually smoke it.
	Put it over a...
	On a Texas-style smoker, so you actually cook it, and it takes about two and a half, three hours.
	And all the smoke, the smoke from the mesquite, whatever wood you're using, let's say mesquite, hickory, probably less.
	I haven't tried hickory.
	Hickory is nice, yeah.
	Oak would probably really do the trick.
	It will completely eliminate that muttony, lamby flavor.
	Lamb taste, yeah.
	It becomes very good.
	Yeah, I think you're right with the mesquite.
	Mesquite's a milder wood, and it's easily obtainable because they burn these mesquite forests down left and right in Mexico so they can make the place more barren.
	And then they ship all the charcoal up here, and then you get real wood charcoal.
	It works great.
	It's got great flavor.
	That's what we do here in Texas, by the way.
	It's religion.
	The top smoking wood in Texas is either pecan or pecan shells.
	But they use pecan wood and pecan shells.
	Interesting you say pecan instead of pecan.
	Yeah.
	I say pecan.
	Yeah.
	As opposed to pecan.
	Do you have any pecan?
	No.
	Yes, it's right next to the vault.
	Hey, you're cutting out again.
	What's this?
	This is not right.
	I don't know what it is.
	This Skype is not working today.
	No, it's not.
	You rebooted your whole machine, right?
	Ah, and the router.
	This time it's not a packet.
	This was frustrating.
	It has nothing to do with the connection this time.
	God knows.
	There's something in between.
	Yeah, but if it gets bad, then we'll have to do something about it.
	But anyway...
	Well, let's play more clips.
	Well, what you got for me, big boy?
	I got a new drug clip.
	Oh, nice.
	They've changed it.
	This is Eliquis or whatever it's called.
	And now if you take this drug, you're going to bleed to death.
	Wow, look at you.
	I've always tried to give it my best shot.
	These days, I'm living with a higher risk of stroke due to AFib, a type of irregular heartbeat not caused by a heart valve problem.
	At first, I took Warfarin, but I wondered, could I up my game?
	My doctor told me about Eliquis.
	And three important reasons to take Eliquis instead.
	One, Eliquis was proven to reduce the risk of stroke better than warfarin.
	Two, Eliquis had less major bleeding than warfarin.
	And three, unlike warfarin, there's no routine blood testing.
	Don't stop taking Eliquis unless your doctor tells you to, as stopping increases your risk of having a stroke.
	Eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding.
	Don't take Eliquis if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding.
	While taking Eliquis, you may bruise more easily.
	And it may take longer than usual for any bleeding to stop.
	Seek immediate medical care for sudden signs of bleeding, like unusual bruising.
	Eliquis may increase your bleeding risk if you take certain medicines.
	Tell your doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures.
	I've got three important reasons to up my game with Eliquis.
	Ask your doctor today if Eliquis is right for you.
	What kind of bleeding are they referring to?
	You just bleed to death.
	The other thing that got me is this whole thesis of this commercial is up my game.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	How is this upping your game?
	You're just taking a different drug.
	I'm going to up my game.
	But didn't you already play this up my game thing?
	Yeah, some other issue.
	This upping my game is a big theme.
	Yeah, yeah, no, I'm here.
	I heard it somewhere else, this up my game thing.
	I think maybe someone sent me this clip and I just forgot to play it.
	Yeah, that's what happened.
	One of our producers...
	Now I remember where this is coming from.
	Yeah, I've heard this.
	Well, it's on TV a lot, too, so maybe...
	Well, I don't know.
	I don't watch TV. Try not to.
	We're going to keep the troops in Afghanistan.
	We are?
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, that's the hint.
	This is beginning to show up as a hint.
	And this little report on NPR, not NPR, but NewsHour.
	Troops are going to stay in that.
	Just a little subtle thing, just to bring it in.
	Secretary of State John Kerry made an unannounced trip to Afghanistan today to help revive security talks.
	He met with President Hamid Karzai to discuss keeping some U.S. troops in the country beyond 2014.
	Talks have stalled over how to preserve Afghan sovereignty.
	And there you have it.
	I think we need to keep the poppy production up, probably.
	That's why we've got to keep the troops there.
	Well, I... The CIA is getting screwed by the NSA. They're not getting the money they want.
	So thus, we put into play that, okay, we're going to stick around Afghanistan longer so we can keep financing our operations.
	Yeah.
	Makes nothing but sense.
	Oh, I'd really love some real investigation into that.
	I mean, from time to time, you'll read...
	They did a whole movie on it and nobody cares.
	Yeah, but that was a while ago.
	I mean, you know, what was that movie again?
	Was it Denzel Washington?
	No, what's his name?
	It was Denzel Washington, wasn't it?
	It was with Gene Hackman?
	No, no, that's the other movie.
	What was it?
	I know, it's stupid.
	I can't remember.
	It's a true story, though.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But, you know, from time to time you'll read, you know, like, I think the other day I saw, oh, well, we're trying to teach the Afghan farmers to make, to grow cucumbers instead of poppies.
	Because there's such a huge demand.
	Yeah, and then it'll say, you know, well, 90% of the world's opium, 95% of the world's opium comes from Afghanistan.
	And there's no follow-up.
	It's just like, okay, Ixnay on the Anstorpe of the Uggdrays on Illitary May Eitflays.
	So, there's a clip here.
	Play this clip and I have a story to tell.
	This is electronic devices on a plane.
	Oh, God.
	The FAA is getting even closer to letting you fly with your cell phone or iPad turned on.
	They've been investigating this issue for a couple of weeks now, but their social committee has officially said that Wi-Fi won't cause the plane to malfunction.
	Your cell phone will not bring down a 747, and Alec Baldwin can still play words with friends on the tarmac.
	But make no mistake about it, the rule isn't on the books yet, but the study means that someday it will finally be there.
	Okay, John, you do know that you played this clip on Thursday.
	And you went on about something or other, but I have another story to tell.
	Okay.
	And I just want to say, I went on about something or other.
	Thanks, podcast partner.
	I can't remember what it was.
	Thanks for listening to the opinion of an actual pilot on the issue.
	Thanks, buddy.
	I now remember what it was.
	You said that there was actual evidence.
	Yeah, don't worry about it.
	No, it was something or other.
	Don't worry about it.
	There was evidence.
	I didn't have it off the top of my head.
	What am I supposed to do, just stay silent?
	It was the...
	What was that?
	That was my coffee cup.
	You know what it sounds like?
	No.
	It's the sound of Skype going dead.
	No, no, don't worry.
	We're hearing that part, too.
	Anyway, you talked about how it actually was a problem.
	So now, Southwest has instituted a new...
	Instead of putting monitors in the seats, you know, like JetBlue half and all the rest of it...
	They've got a Wi-Fi, you get free Wi-Fi in the cabin that streams the Dish network to your laptop or phone.
	And it's actually, for people who ever tried to use it, it didn't work at all.
	But if you switch to, if you find Internet Explorer, it does work.
	I believe it to be Silverlight, and so nothing works except on Internet Explorer because nobody can make Silverlight work on it.
	Silverlight, yeah.
	It's totally Silverlight.
	Anyway, that's my story.
	American Gangster.
	Ah!
	2007, American Gangster.
	You must see this movie if you have not.
	It's a great movie.
	Yeah.
	And it is the truth.
	It's a true story.
	The guy was still alive, and he was on a 60-minute show, that criminal.
	Frank Lucas?
	Was that who it was?
	That's who Denzel played.
	Yeah, that guy.
	And they interviewed him, and he was just the coolest guy.
	He said, yeah, yeah, this is going on.
	It was just astonishing that this was going on.
	This is a true story.
	Is Frank Lucas dead?
	I don't know if he is or not.
	Let's take a look.
	Well, he must be.
	He must be very, very old.
	Let me see.
	No.
	Let me see.
	Is this?
	Yeah.
	Born September 9th, 1930.
	Yeah, he's still alive.
	He's 83.
	Yeah, and here's his under-celebrity net worth.
	Frank Lewis, right now, is worth $1.5 million.
	That's all he's got left.
	Ran successful drug operations in Harlem during the 60s and 70s, and on and on.
	And it was like Denzel Washington played him.
	And it's a fact of the story.
	You watch the story, and you know it's still going on.
	Yeah.
	It's so easy.
	And nowadays, especially when you can't take the...
	All of a sudden, they said you can't take pictures of the coffins anymore.
	Remember that?
	It's funny you say that.
	This actually comes in...
	Listen to this.
	This is what's happening almost on a daily basis.
	And there's a whole backstory to this.
	But this is just some of the actual reporting.
	At Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam in Hawaii, a J-PAC team returned with remains from Vietnam and World War II. The as of yet unknown remains received full military honors while veterans from different generations saluted.
	I think it's so important it's a closure for not only the families and those that serve themselves but to all those that are currently serving and that have served to show that we fulfill the responsibility of bringing our folks home.
	The remains will now go to the joint POW-MIA Accounting Command Central Identification Laboratory.
	Their scientists will begin finding out who these heroes are.
	Okay, so as it turns out, these so-called arrival ceremonies, as they're called, the coffins are quote-unquote empty.
	There's no remains in the coffins.
	And the planes that are there for the ceremony don't even fly.
	They're dragged into position on the tarmac.
	What?
	Yes, and yes, this is a huge scandal.
	In fact, in the military, they call it the big lie.
	Photos behind the scenes show the flag-draped boxes had not just arrived on a military plane, but just basically pulled out of the hangar, and then walked around, and the planes have been just dragged out onto the tarmac at the arrival ceremony, is what it's called.
	But it's not true.
	So I'm thinking...
	There's got exactly what you said.
	There is something up with the coffins not being shown on television anymore.
	Now turns out that most of them are empty when it's about MIA, Vietnam, or other remains that are unidentified.
	I think it's time for some investigative work here.
	No one's going to do anything.
	Now, I'm of the opinion that the reason they're not letting you shoot the coffins is because they can't coordinate.
	They can't carry the coffins.
	They're too heavy.
	They can't coordinate.
	That's possible, too.
	They can't coordinate the dead soldiers with the coffins.
	Right, the numbers.
	And they're actually, the numbers, and they may actually have more coffins coming in because of the heroin.
	Wow.
	They may have more heroin being exported to support the operation than dead.
	You do not have dead guys.
	You're so right, John.
	All we need is for someone to just count.
	If we could just get someone to count, and by the way, another six young men, and I think maybe four men and two women died in Afghanistan.
	You didn't hear about it on the news, but why would you?
	And you're not going to see it on the news.
	There will be no flag-draped coffins, but there should be six coming back.
	Right.
	And they'll probably be 10.
	Hmm.
	Bill to the rim.
	No, this is...
	Everyone who listens to this show should watch that movie, American Gangster.
	Yeah.
	And Lucas is still out there roaming around.
	He's out of jail, I think, isn't he?
	Yeah, he's out of jail doing documentaries.
	Really?
	It was a good time.
	Those were the days.
	Yeah.
	He's 83.
	You see the movie Cocaine Cowboys about South Florida Banks.
	It's about the banking.
	All these guys are out of jail, except the ones that got killed, who were really bad guys.
	And they're all talking and telling the great stories.
	Oh, those were the days we were living it up.
	World-class champagne, you know, the whole thing.
	It's just hilarious.
	It's kind of an insult.
	In the show notes, you can find a statement from the Department of Defense.
	They will no longer be calling it arrival ceremonies now that they've been busted on it.
	I didn't know this story.
	What a scam.
	That's a terrible scam.
	It's already an insult that the media won't cover this.
	By request, I might add.
	So that's already an insult.
	But then, you know, to have phoned up...
	It's lame.
	So I have a long thing that we can either do or not do.
	I'm going to keep putting it on here until we do it.
	It's about vapes.
	About what?
	Vapes.
	Vapes?
	Yeah, vapes.
	What are vapes?
	And by the way, I'm putting in the red book my prediction about you and vapes.
	Am I a vape?
	No, you're not a vape.
	A vape is something you do.
	What's a vape?
	It's a vaporizer.
	It's those little smokeless cigarettes.
	Electronic cigarettes.
	They're called vapes.
	Oh, vapes.
	The ones that are being outlawed in the U.K., Right.
	Start playing this and we'll go through this whole thing because I think you'll be amused because essentially what they've done in the Bay Area, because there's shops that are opening up everywhere, is they made a vape for cigarette smokers and a vape for marijuana smokers.
	And they're trying to tell people how bad it is, but the whole special that's been pieced together is actually a promotion to smoke more tobacco product.
	And this is going to be a huge boom to the tobacco market.
	Huh.
	It's very, very sly.
	A whole new generation of smokers.
	We're talking about e-cigarettes.
	If you don't know what they are, your teenager might.
	The number of high school-aged kids who have admitted to trying e-cigarettes doubled last year to almost 2 million.
	NBC Barry's Stephanie Chung joins us now.
	And Stephanie, this is actually called vaping now.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Vaping as in vaporizing.
	And by the way, I've never heard of this term.
	Never.
	And I'm a weed guy.
	I've never heard anyone call it vaping.
	Sorry.
	I've questioned around here.
	JC knows the term.
	He knows.
	Okay.
	All right.
	The term is...
	All right, baby.
	I quit a couple years ago, so maybe I'm out of it.
	I'm not Mac Caroni.
	Burning nicotine and marijuana and inhaling the vapors instead of smoke.
	But like other tech gadgets, these devices have gotten smaller and more advanced, allowing some kids to smoke literally right in front of their parents.
	Lighting up 2.0.
	There's less of a burn.
	It feels less dirty.
	No actual lighter required.
	It doesn't smell.
	E-cigarettes, also known as vaporizers or vapes, have a battery-powered heating element that warms the liquid, turning it into vapor.
	You can choose nicotine levels or how much marijuana you want to put in.
	These are hand-built generally.
	Frank DeLevy loves vaping so much, he opened up his own shop.
	Well, the vape scene is growing every day in the Bay Area.
	Only vapor in downtown San Bruno is the latest in the Bay Area to sell the vapes.
	He says this is the secret to helping smokers kick the habit.
	If you're burning vegetation, you're building up tar in your lungs.
	If you're vaporizing liquid, you're not.
	Can I just stop the report for a second on that particular report?
	You can stop it as much as you want, because it's hilarious.
	So, do you remember when we were in...
	So, Ms.
	Meek and I quit smoking a year and, what, three months ago?
	Yeah, August of last year.
	Yeah, you've done very well, by the way, and I celebrate your CPS. Thank you, thank you.
	I congratulate you for your honesty.
	What is the term we've been trying to use?
	Thank you for your courage.
	Your courage.
	Thank you for your courage for stopping.
	And it's gotten to the point where we don't even think about it anymore.
	And this is only in the last couple months, we were like, you know, because in the past year or so, once in a while, I'd be like, ah.
	Over the hump.
	Yeah, we're way over the hump.
	And now we're like, oh my God, that stinks.
	And it's pretty unbelievable.
	But we're not Nazis.
	I hate people like that.
	That's a plus.
	I'm not a Nazi.
	Ew, you smoke.
	That stinks.
	Yeah.
	However, you'll remember that we tried stopping before when we were still in Los Angeles.
	And we had the e-cigarette things in L.A. to help us quit smoking.
	Let me tell you what the result is.
	You're smoking and you're doing the e-cigarette.
	It does not help you at all.
	That is absolutely bull crap.
	You're still smoking.
	It's like the people who use the patch and then smoke.
	None of that works.
	It's not how you quit smoking.
	The nicotine, that's the addictive property, and you're still getting it, and you're sticking something in your face.
	That is a lie.
	It will not help you quit smoking.
	If anything, it helps you into the real deal.
	Or even vape meets, where people get together to compare and talk about their vaporizers.
	I've seen the growth of the popularity of it within the last year.
	Candice Garcia, who works with troubled teens and young adults in Santa Clara County, says there are so many colors to choose from now, girls are turning vapes into accessories.
	If you're pulling out lipstick, you know, like you want to look like you match.
	So with this electronic cigarette or paperizing pen, if it's a hot pink and you have a hot pink purse, it looks cool.
	So I've seen it a lot.
	A kid can use it anywhere.
	And for therapist Phil Boissier, therein lies the problem.
	He says kids are getting hooked.
	A kid could just have it right here and just slip it out of their jacket, do this, and be done.
	You know, if they could have it like this, you're never going to see it.
	They could do it in class in front of a teacher.
	They do do it in class in front of a teacher.
	He says teens have even confessed to playing a sort of game.
	We even were using them on the airplane.
	And we were told not to, by the way, when we were doing that.
	We were like lighting up an e-cigarette on the airplane.
	What assholes we were, now that I think about it.
	That's terrible.
	I know.
	It's addiction, man.
	That's what it does.
	Using vaporizers for both nicotine and marijuana in the same room as their parents.
	Without mom and dad catching on.
	The technology continues to advance.
	It's made a cigarette look like an iPod.
	It's made it sexy again.
	We all are a little bit addicted to our technology.
	Whenever you or I pull out our smartphone, there's a little release of dopamine.
	When people use drugs and alcohol, there's a large release of dopamine.
	And you've got a double whammy.
	Oh man, I just had a great idea for a product, John.
	For the quantified selfers, so we have a vapor, an e-cigarette, a vape, and through Bluetooth or maybe the iPhone, not NFC, so Bluetooth, it's talking to an app, and then when you take a hit, it registers your dopamine level.
	God.
	Yeah.
	That's actually something that someone would do.
	Yeah, and you can tweet it.
	Tweet, exactly.
	Like Foursquare.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I just took a hit.
	I just vaped.
	I just vaped, and it'll give your location, your heart rate, because you combine it with your Fitbit, and it'll be, yeah, so we can do like, I just vaped, my heart rate went up 13%.
	Yay!
	With your location, at the library.
	This is a, I'm telling you, money-making product right there.
	Perhaps luring in first-time smokers.
	A recent CDC study found about 160,000 middle to high school students who reported using vaporizers had never smoked actual cigarettes.
	San Francisco General Hospital doctor Neil Bennewitz says the impact goes beyond individuals.
	E6 could make smoking much more popular.
	People don't see as many people smoking anymore.
	All of a sudden, everyone's carrying e-cigarettes, so smoking behavior becomes re-normalized.
	Dr.
	Benowitz, who's also a nicotine expert with UCSF's Center for Tobacco Control, Research and Education, says the newest devices are far less toxic compared to the first e-cigs that came out 10 years ago.
	Most likely, e-cigarette users are right.
	That e-cigarette use, if they stop smoking, would be much less harmful.
	Still, he warns, a lack of regulation has left many questions hanging in the air.
	Some of the cartridges are really big and contain a lot of nicotine.
	Oh yeah, I've seen some of these things at Halcyon here on Saturdays, which is where we all hang out and have coffee and stuff after the market.
	It's like the guy's carrying a bong.
	Have you seen these?
	Are you even here, John?
	Are you just...
	Hello?
	Hello?
	I lost John!
	He's vaped himself off of Skype!
	Welcome back.
	So, big as a bong?
	Mm-hmm.
	Would it have a big lantern battery in it?
	No, it's like a huge glass thing and then he inhales and there's all the smoke that's turning inside.
	It's like a multiple...
	Vapor, not smoke.
	Yeah, vapor, yes.
	But it's like a multiple chamber deal.
	It's pretty wild.
	Let's listen to the rest of this.
	In theory, if someone were suicidal or if a child got a hold of them, they could get a potentially lethal dose of nicotine.
	For DeLevy, the last eight months of vaping is all the proof he needs.
	I've lost that smoker's cough.
	I feel more clear.
	Oh, boy.
	Now, the vapes or e-cigarettes have not only gotten smaller, but cheaper.
	You can actually pick one up that can last for a couple years for as little as 20 to 30 bucks now.
	And legally, you can actually smoke these anywhere, including at work and in restaurants.
	Now, there was a Senate bill in California designed to ban e-cigarettes the same places traditional cigarettes are outlawed and to regulate the advertising of them.
	But that has been put on hold.
	Yeah, I think what's going on here, I think you're spot on, John.
	This is just a promotion to move people off of tobacco.
	That's all going to Africa.
	We'll get all those people hooked on that.
	Here's the EU doing something very similar.
	And of course, we know that you can't get 10 packs of smokes anymore.
	There's big warning labels, but they're working on this e-cig thing.
	Now, what is the best way to stop young people starting to smoke?
	Well, the European Parliament will vote on a wide-ranging package of new rules today aimed at trying to make the habit a little less attractive.
	The proposal includes a ban on menthol cigarettes along with other flavoured tobacco.
	Packs of 10 cigarettes would be taken off the shelves.
	Slim cigarettes would also be forbidden.
	They tend to be bought apparently by women.
	And health warnings could cover as much as three-quarters of a cigarette packet.
	But one of the most controversial proposals is to restrict access to e-cigarettes.
	A yes vote would see them reclassified as medicines right across the EU. Manufacturers would then need to get their products licensed by drug agencies, which could be both costly and time-consuming.
	It's a bonanza!
	Oh, yeah.
	Money, money, money.
	It's a bonanza, I tell you.
	It's going to be great.
	Yeah, well, I think there's something to our app there with the Bluetooth.
	I'm liking this app.
	Yeah.
	But it has to interact with the Fitbit.
	And what else is there?
	What other crazy crap is it that people wear to track stuff?
	I think that's the least of our problems.
	I think the main thing is you've got to get the e-cigarette Bluetooth enabled or Wi-Fi enabled in such a way that it's not clumsy.
	Yeah, but I don't think that's a problem.
	It's just you need to...
	I think you need to...
	Well, there's a couple things.
	One, on the app, it'll show you the reservoir, your nicotine reservoir.
	So, you know, it'll have like a fuel meter.
	So you can see how full your smoke is if there's, you know, if you need time for a new charge.
	Yeah, you see that on your phone.
	Yeah, of course.
	You pull out your phone and you have a little gauge.
	Yes.
	And, of course, the battery life.
	But it'll automatically order new charges for you.
	But it's kind of cool if you take a hit, your heart rate goes, then it tweets out, you know, I just vaped.
	This is good.
	I'm telling you, this is a good idea.
	We have developers.
	Get a hold of us.
	We've got the promotion side of it covered.
	We've got that covered.
	We just need the actual app done.
	In Gitmo Nation East there, the UK, for the first time since World War II, the Red Cross has launched first aid emergency food aid for all of the UK. As people are starving there, apparently.
	What?
	Yeah.
	Austerity measures and the economic downturn in the UK have prompted the British branch of the Red Cross to begin formulating an emergency food aid plan for Britain.
	The first time the charity has done this in the UK since World War II.
	Yeah.
	Oh yeah, this is going to happen across Europe too, by the way.
	It's going to happen in Portugal.
	It's going to happen in Spain.
	It's going to happen in the Netherlands.
	And the funny thing is, it's all just about banks and bankers and bullcrap.
	And now people are actually starving.
	Yeah, that's one way of getting their attention.
	Getting their attention or just getting rid of them.
	I mean, I think this is culling, perhaps.
	It could be.
	It's what the Russians did to the Ukrainians.
	Didn't the Russians do it to their entire Russian population in general?
	No, they had some targeted places where they could actually starve people out.
	The rest of them they killed.
	They didn't have any qualms about that.
	Stalin?
	He didn't have to starve anybody.
	Gun him down.
	Right, but you can't do that anymore.
	I don't think those practices work these days.
	But I was a little surprised by...
	I was a little taken aback, I would say, that that is actually happening.
	Because, you know...
	When the collapse takes place, I guess a lot of us will still just be watching reality television like nothing's happening.
	Isn't that what's going on now?
	Yeah, but the collapse isn't completely here.
	No, it's just a bunch of dry runs to test the public's, how much they'll put up with.
	Apparently they'll put up quite a bit.
	I like the blackout thing.
	Yeah.
	Blackout coming near you.
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay.
	What else do we have here?
	I got a little thing, just a little heads up on the headscarves in Turkey.
	They let those back on board.
	And Turkey's going to be...
	Keep an eye on Turkey.
	It's going to...
	All hell's going to break loose there.
	They've had a couple of dry runs on that.
	and the big story is yet to come with me.
	One day after the lifting of a nearly 90-year-old ban on women wearing the Islamic headscarf in Turkey's state institutions and the issue remains as divisive as ever, being religious or secular dictates the response.
	For Turkey's Prime Minister, it's a positive move and one of his reforms meant to improve democracy.
	A painful ban that has caused a lot of suffering to the parents of young people is lifted.
	A dark era has come to an end.
	The decades-old ban has kept many women from joining the public workforce.
	Supporters of the scarf see the change as the restoration of freedom of religious expression.
	This teacher says, according to the former regulation, if you wore a headscarf, you could receive a warning and a reprimand within a certain period.
	Nothing else was said.
	It was done without even asking us to explain ourselves.
	But Erdogan's critics see his Islamist-rooted AK party as seeking to erode the secular foundations of the Republic.
	Ilkner, who lives in Istanbul, says, This is not good.
	I can't even imagine a civic officer wearing a headscarf.
	This was not the right decision to take, and I don't approve of it.
	Isn't it amazing just what we've become in the world, the things that we're arguing about?
	I find that quite interesting.
	Well, in this case, it's...
	Turkey's history with its own state religion, essentially, has been sketchy at best, and they're going to turn the place into another.
	I mean, the idea of an Islamist democracy is self-abnegating.
	You can't be both, you know, everything goes by the book Sharia law and all the rest, and have a free society.
	They're freaked out about this possibility because it's just one more step.
	Because with the way it works with this guy, Erticon, it goes, well, first we're going to free everybody so they can wear the headscarf, part one.
	Part two, everyone has to wear the headscarf, which is the way these things work.
	I think we should start wearing one on the show.
	You.
	Yes, I shall wear...
	You'll go with the dress that you're wearing as you do the show.
	Yeah, it'll go along with that over-modulation that we got since we reconnected the Skype.
	It'll go nicely.
	I think we should quit while we're ahead.
	Yeah, it's a shame that the...
	I don't know what it is.
	We've got to figure out what's going on, but...
	Did you get an upgrade?
	Was there an upgrade of Skype that you got on Windows, maybe?
	No, this machine is just dedicated to this, and it never runs the rest of the week.
	No, but you don't know if you got an upgrade or not.
	Is Skype now included in the Windows update?
	I would hope not.
	It's possible.
	No, because they still ask you.
	I did an update about a month ago.
	Then we were screwed up by packet losses.
	Now we've got that fixed.
	I think it's just a bad day.
	Yeah, well, it's a bad day.
	I think it's on my end, actually.
	I have a feeling that it may be the Mac version of Skype for some reason.
	Well, it's possible.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, well.
	It seems to be in there somewhere, but it's okay.
	I think the show was acceptable to the majority of No Agenda listeners.
	Well, certainly the people who are listening to this on the podcast version where we cut out all the hours of crap.
	We're always rousing about this.
	Oh, it's terrible!
	Yeah.
	Anyway, as an end-of-show little ditty here, producer Jim Savastuck created a little montage.
	He's done this before.
	This is the Shut You Down montage, which I think we should probably play, which would be fun, just to wind things up.
	Sounds good.
	Yeah, you know, he just grabs some douchebags and mixes it in with some music, and it's always fun to listen to that.
	We will be back on your Bat Channel on Thursday, and of course we'll be even closer to the Bogative Showdown.
	So we'll see who gives in first.
	It'll be fun to watch.
	What's the date of that?
	I think that'll be Friday is maybe the date, and we have Thursday we have the show.
	I think it'll probably be resolved probably just before the show, because they really can't do it at the very...
	No, they always do it right after we're done with the show.
	That's...
	It's just timed.
	Yeah, they always do stuff like that.
	No Agenda Producer Update coming up on the stream right after the program if you're listening live.
	And as always...
	I am packed with collagen-inspired volume plumping, for your pleasure.
	And I'm here in Austin, Texas.
	It is the capital of the drone star state.
	In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	No plumping here.
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	We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
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