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	What, are you kidding me?
	What kind of a pitch is this?
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, March 17, 2013.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 496.
	This is no agenda.
	Counting my Geigers in the Travis Heights hideout where SoCo meets MoFo in the capital of the drone.
	Star State in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Here's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	You tried that on me Thursday.
	I was ready for you this time.
	You have no more snappy openings?
	Nah, not when I can't get this printer to work.
	We had a little pre-show banter.
	John is very upset about his printer.
	I got two.
	Actually, two printers are down.
	Oh, printer down.
	Hold on.
	Printer down.
	Printer down.
	Buzzkill Jr.
	The big office printer.
	Yeah.
	I put in a new route.
	Hold on a second.
	What do you mean the big office printer?
	What are you running there?
	What kind of outfit?
	Are you in your house or what are you in?
	What are you doing?
	It's a big office printer.
	Uh-huh.
	It prints on both sides and all that kind of thing.
	Oh!
	It's a network printer, but I put in a new router.
	Oh, boy.
	And apparently this router is not talking to me.
	I mean, it's talking to it and it sees it and says, Hi, printer.
	Hi, how you doing?
	But I can't seem to get it to print.
	Oh, it's like a PNP thing?
	I don't know what it is.
	So why did you buy a new router?
	I wanted to, here's the reason, because I'm going to be reviewing all these different little boxes.
	Routers?
	No, little boxes.
	The little boxes.
	The little boxes they're selling.
	The Roku box, the E-Link Live box, or the WD box.
	There's a bunch of them.
	You'd be surprised.
	No, no, no.
	In fact, were you also going to take a look at some of the homebrew, like the Raspberry Pi Media Center?
	Maybe.
	I'll build one just for you to review it.
	Okay, if you build it, I'll put it in the pile.
	Yeah.
	So I have all these boxes I've got lining up, and I don't have enough power on the old router to hit down there, although I do have some repeaters, which I picked up, so I can send a repeater down there.
	But I said, what's the point when I get one of these new 802.11 ACs?
	I have not heard of the AC. Well, the ACs are the big thing.
	The ACs, well, I haven't been almost a year they've been out, but the ACs will deliver 1.2 gigabits per second.
	Wow.
	Well, hold on a second.
	Then the only way that can happen, are these on, then they must be, these must be on really high frequencies, like 5 gigahertz frequency?
	Yeah, there's a 5 gigahertz thing.
	Yeah, it must be.
	They're cheating it a little bit because essentially the 802.11n could deliver up to 400 megabits per second.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They're using three channels is what they're doing.
	There's no doubt about it.
	So this is cheating.
	Right.
	Because there's 10 channels or more.
	I forgot how many, but whatever the case they're going to use.
	But when you really set it up for normal use, It makes no sense, because your Wi-Fi card in your laptop doesn't have that.
	But this thing still delivers twice the speed of the other router at all levels, on the 802.11, or the regular 2 point, whatever it is, gigahertz 2.3, whatever it is.
	It'll deliver like, it's delivering like almost 300, and then on a five...
	How do you measure this?
	What's your measurement system?
	You can tell because on Windows 8...
	That downloaded really fast.
	On Windows 8, it actually tells you, unlike the other ones, when you made a connection at 54 megabits per second, it would always say it down, oh, 54 megabits per second, but you were getting nothing.
	Right.
	With Windows 8, it gives you real-time what you're getting.
	Right.
	And it's truthful.
	You can boot up your laptop and roam around the house and see what the relative speed is in the dining room or whatever.
	It's a little nerdy, but it works.
	You think?
	I'm only getting 10 here!
	I actually curse you because I got a horrible, horrible...
	In fact, Miss Mickey was just putting cucumber slices on my head.
	I got a horrible sunburn because of you yesterday.
	I had nothing to do with it.
	Yes, you did.
	Yes, you did.
	Because we had biked to the farmer's market.
	That was mistake number one.
	Yeah, that would be a mistake.
	That was the mistake.
	All the circumstances.
	Yeah, well, you know, it's south by, so we can't park.
	So now we'll just hop on our bus.
	Okay, you got an excuse.
	And going there was great, but then coming back, you know, you're biking up South Congress.
	It's like, that's a little more hill than I remember in the car.
	And so we come back.
	I'm so tired.
	I'm going to listen to Dvorak Horowitz Unplugged.
	So I got my headphones, you know, the ones that our night gave us.
	Those giant ones.
	Yeah, no agenda headphones.
	And I'm listening.
	And of course, listening to you and your dulcet tones, of course, I'm out within three minutes.
	You fell asleep.
	Three minutes.
	I'm like...
	Why is this guy boring?
	In the backyard, in the hammock.
	Oh my God.
	And I wake up and Mickey's like, oh wow.
	I'm like, what?
	You're completely burned.
	Oh, you're burned by Texas sun.
	And the show only...
	Because I remember waking up at the end, the show was not even an hour.
	Of course, now all the suggestions that were in the show are in my head.
	I need to short Netflix.
	Yes.
	No, long Netflix.
	I'm sorry.
	We have both on that one.
	Anyway, so that was cool.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, I will take credit for that.
	Yeah.
	Hey, this morning, and I didn't, because I only got the email Thursday after the show, Aunt Meg sent me an email and told me that Uncle Don was going to be on that anti-constitutionalist traitor show, Fareed Zakaria.
	Oh, really?
	When?
	Well, it was on this morning.
	Oh.
	Did you get a tape of it?
	Well, of course I did.
	Oh, you have some clips?
	Yes, of course I've got clips.
	And are we going to start the show with that?
	No, why would I do that?
	I mean, that would ruin it.
	That sounds good.
	But what's interesting...
	Well, I'll tell you that in a moment.
	First of all, it's all coming together.
	It makes so much sense to me now.
	So we have, let me see if I have the, we have to be incredibly frightened.
	I guess we get like, oh, North Korea is going to shoot missiles onto the West Coast.
	And CNN, I mean, it's just getting to me.
	This horse crap about North Korea is going to attack us any minute.
	Yeah.
	I mean, this is...
	Bullshit.
	Besides being complete manure, it's like, who are we kidding?
	I do have a clip if you need to have the background, the North Korean coming at you clip.
	Yeah, we'll do the background and then I'll roll slowly into what's really going on here.
	The U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel has announced plans to station 14 missile interceptors in Alaska to combat North Korea's threats of a nuclear strike.
	Hagel also revealed plans to deploy a radar tracking system in Japan.
	The decision is an about-face for the Obama administration, who decided to stop the expansion of the missile defense shield back in 2010.
	The United States has missile defense systems in place to protect us from limited ICBM attacks, but North Korea in particular has recently made advances in its capabilities and is engaged in a series of irresponsible and reckless provocations.
	Specifically, North Korea announced last month that it conducted its third nuclear test.
	And last April displayed what appears to be a road mobile ICBM. So what was interesting about, and of course Hagel is our brand new Minister of Defense, clearly he has no clue what he's talking about.
	The guy's just reading there and, well, I mean, we already saw this in the Senate confirmation hearings.
	He doesn't know what he's talking about.
	But now that the puppet's in and he'll basically get up there and read and do whatever he has to say, he's reading these four points.
	Now, the first three points, I have a clip, but this one already, this one kind of set it up, is North Korea, ooh, bad, so we've got to get ready for them.
	We're going to put some S.H.I.E.L.D. stuff in place in Alaska.
	We're going to put stuff in place in Japan, and we're going to be looking at new possibilities for bases and missile defense on the northwest of the United States.
	But what the news did not report is the fourth thing.
	Did you catch the fourth thing that he announced?
	No, I'm sure I'm going to now.
	And fourth, we are restructuring the SM-3-2B program.
	Now, this is where the press corps is like...
	Whatever.
	SMB-3-2 core...
	As many of you know, we plan to deploy the SM-2B as part of the European phase-adaptive approach.
	The phase-adaptive approach?
	Hmm, what could that be?
	The purpose was to add to the protection of the U.S. homeland already provided by our current GBI's against missile threats in the Middle East.
	The timeline for deploying this program had been delayed.
	I'll save you the agony of listening to all the technical jargon that he is spouting in this, which of course is when you have to pay attention.
	It's fourth on the list.
	It's a whole bunch of...
	Let me just listen to this.
	...2022 due to cuts in congressional funding.
	Listen to this.
	Meanwhile, the threat matures.
	By shifting resources from this lagging program to fund the additional GBIs as well as advanced kill vehicle technology.
	What?
	That will improve the performance of the GBI. Oh, of course.
	And other versions of the SM-3.
	My SM-3 GBI performance is fantastic.
	That was an SM-2B. How did it get to an SM-3?
	I have no idea.
	This is the whole point.
	This is basically...
	Remember we were going to put this whole array of missiles pointing towards Russia?
	Yeah, these scam missiles.
	This part of the Iron Dome.
	Yes, towards Russia.
	Yeah, they're great because they'll stop any scud.
	Yeah, and Russia is like right on.
	About time you got out of our face.
	So this is not about North Korea.
	This is a gesture towards Russia.
	And you'll recall when President Obama had the open mic experience with Medvedev, he said, look, I'll have more flexibility after I'm elected president.
	I can't do anything right now.
	And it is my belief that this is part of whatever the plan is, which we haven't quite figured out yet, is this is part of the flexibility.
	I bet it involves oil.
	Do you think?
	No.
	Really?
	You think so?
	And probably Syria, too.
	So CNN is off the deep end, and I want people who have heard this show to go into the video section and go look at...
	CNN has this new way of presenting things.
	And it is 3D around the presenter.
	So they've produced this piece.
	It's a beautiful piece, and it's showing you...
	I'm going to play a bit of the audio.
	It's showing you the danger of North Korea.
	And the guy is literally standing in the middle of a globe, and then in 3D, like really three-dimensional, in front of him.
	You've got the trajectories.
	You've got the missiles flying.
	In the space, it's really well done.
	I've not seen this.
	I haven't seen it at all.
	This must be the new Jeff Zucker stuff.
	And then all of a sudden, he's talking about the Korean missile.
	And the thing is, he's holding on to it.
	It just appears.
	It's really fantastic.
	And it's like, whoa.
	And so you won't be able to see it, obviously, this being radio.
	But you'll hear his intonation, how...
	Obvious it is that he's using these visual aids to teach you morons, literally morons, what is going on, or at least what they want you to think is going on.
	The Pentagon is acknowledging that North Korea is becoming more of a global threat.
	Global!
	And he's standing on the globe now, right?
	Global!
	And there's actually a world, a little world has appeared in front of him, a little globe, literally, floating right in front of him.
	It's phenomenal.
	Let's start with the premise.
	Here's a country that all we've been hearing about is they're starving to death.
	They're a bunch of idiots.
	And they're like complete boneheads.
	And now they're a global threat because, by the way, their third nuke is still only about half the power of the one that was dropped on Hiroshima.
	I mean, we have conventional weapons that have more...
	Russia has meteorites that are stronger than that.
	What are you talking about?
	There's nothing.
	All right, so let's go on with our lesson.
	Are you ready?
	Are you shutting up, slave?
	Are you listening?
	I'm going to shut up.
	And listen.
	Because of the speed at which it is developing its missile program and its nuclear weapon program.
	So how does the military want to respond to that?
	Respond.
	At the front line.
	Front line.
	By going to the Pacific Ocean, where the fear is that North Korea, on its best day, might be able to launch a missile that would go all the way out to hit some parts of the United States.
	On its best day.
	Well, you're interrupting.
	You tell me to stop.
	Let me stop there.
	During this report, just before it's over, I want to ask a simple question.
	Do they explain why North Korea would want to do this?
	Because they're evil!
	Knowing that it's suicidal to even think about something like this?
	Do they explain that?
	No!
	You don't need to have background, slave.
	You don't need to understand worldly events.
	Just watch the pretty pictures.
	It's 3D. Do you know what to do about that?
	First of all, they want more radar support.
	They want a new base in Japan here to be tracking early on what's happening.
	They want to beef up missiles in Alaska and California.
	And, of course, they want steady monitoring from ships at sea, from airplanes overhead, and from satellites, all watching to see it.
	Korea is going to...
	Satellites are literally flying through...
	I've got to give you a link for this.
	It's just...
	Well, no, you look at...
	I'll send it to you after the show.
	It's unbelievable the technology they put into this.
	So anyway, I'm not going to play the whole thing because it's just so patronizing.
	And of course, there is absolutely no explanation as to why they're so evil.
	Now, Uncle Don, and actually Fareed Zakaria, the traitor, and I'll just call him that.
	He's a traitor.
	I don't like him at all.
	He keeps saying we should get rid of the Constitution.
	Yeah, no, he is a horrible person today.
	And you hear people praising him for some reason.
	He's annoying.
	He's almost alien-looking with that square skull.
	And I know my Aunt Meg agrees with me.
	You know, I think you always got to wonder.
	I think Uncle Don really doesn't...
	I mean, if anything, he's working for the Koreans.
	He was just in Korea.
	How come I can't get a visit?
	Well, he was in South Korea, but I didn't know.
	But he apparently also spoke to some North Koreans.
	And he wrote a little family letter.
	Actually, Aunt Meg wrote this.
	Family letter?
	They still do that?
	Oh, yeah.
	You know, Mickey does them.
	I love them with pictures.
	It's not a letter.
	It's an email.
	Most people have switched to blogs.
	No, no, no, no.
	It's still a private email.
	It's really cute.
	But she said that the Koreans value their elderly so much, and Donna's now 84, and And so when he comes to Korea, they have so much respect and roll out all kinds of hospitality for him.
	It's really quite astounding when you kind of read through how people treat their elders versus here where, you know...
	Get out of the way, old man!
	Get off the road!
	I'm going to kill you to shoot you.
	So here's the intro to Uncle Don, which I thought was appropriate for us to get a little background again on where Uncle Don comes from.
	And right off the bat, he pretty much explains exactly what's going on.
	And I just got to love him for it.
	Donald Gregg is a former ambassador to South Korea.
	In fact, he just returned from a visit there.
	He was also national security advisor in the 1980s to then-Vice President George H.W. Bush.
	First question, what do you think they were trying to do, Ambassador?
	I mean, this seems so bizarre.
	You wrote a piece about engaging with them.
	I feel as though it would be nice to get them less isolated.
	But then they go and test a nuclear bomb, abrogate the Armistice Treaty, threaten a preemptive nuclear strike, and promise to rain bullets on South Korea.
	Why are they doing this?
	I met with North Koreans very recently and talked to them about it.
	And they said what has happened is that they have given up on their diplomats and the military is now in control.
	And what they want is talk about moving from the now disbanded armistice agreement to the creation of a peace treaty.
	And that's what they want to talk about.
	And anyone who is willing to talk about that, they will listen to anyone who wants to talk about what they call the old way, which was give up your nuclear weapons.
	And then we'll talk.
	It's going to get nowhere.
	And that's it.
	It's literally that simple.
	That makes sense.
	Makes nothing but sense.
	The new guy, Un, whether it's the military or not, they are sick of this armistice.
	It's been around forever.
	We can't just say, okay, let's have a peace agreement and treaty so we can stop, you know...
	Creating this mess at the border, which is like, you know, what's weird is Seoul, Korea is right near the border, so it would be like, you know, if the North Koreans decided to overrun South Korea, everyone in Seoul, Korea would be screwed.
	But it's like, yeah, that makes nothing but sense.
	And...
	Oh, there must have been reported on then that Greg was actually talking.
	Some sense?
	It seems to me that you had a lot of reports on what Dennis Rodman did.
	Well, the funny thing is, I'm glad you bring that up.
	Dennis Rodman, and I have probably the only interview from him.
	Is saying the exact same thing as Uncle Don.
	Except Don doesn't have the tattoos and the piercings.
	I haven't talked to him.
	What do you feel he does want to do?
	Does he want to get out of the shadow of his father?
	He wants to do one thing.
	And I wish I'd bring him over here.
	He was the one thing.
	He wants to not fight.
	He asked me to tell Obama, please call me.
	That's all he asked.
	I believe that.
	I think it's totally true.
	It's just like, look, we want to keep our nuclear weapons.
	Everyone else has them.
	You got them.
	We want to keep them.
	And we want to have peace.
	We'll have a peace treaty, but don't try to disarm us.
	There's a – if you saw that anyone got to see the – and it's available on one of these little boxes like a Roku.
	I think it's on Netflix maybe.
	But the first Vice magazine visit to North Korea as it went in through the Canadian side, it's apparent.
	And there's discussions about this.
	It's apparent that the North Koreans – I know this is going to sound weird, but I'm convinced of it.
	I'll put it in the book, wants to become a tourist attraction.
	It wants to become a tourist destination because it's so, you know, it would be very quaint to go to North Korea.
	This place hasn't changed since the 30s.
	And you could go there, and it's all set up already because the Vice guys kept going from one place to another saying, why is there this huge restaurant at the foot of this famous mountain?
	There's nobody in here but me.
	Yeah, I'm in agreement on that.
	And also, Kim Jong Un also likes amusement parks so much.
	Right.
	He does.
	That's true.
	Yeah, he just turned into one big Disneyland.
	I agree with you, John.
	Let me ask you this, just historically speaking.
	What is the deal?
	I don't think that the North Koreans hate the South Koreans.
	I mean, that's just political.
	They're all Koreans.
	Yeah, I mean, it's like we don't hate the Canadians.
	The Canadians don't hate us.
	I don't know about that.
	Well, we've got a border.
	We all get along.
	We consider that to be an amusement park up there.
	We go skiing and smoke dope and all kinds of cool stuff in Canada.
	Whistler, that's right.
	What's the glacier there?
	Is it called Whistler, the glacier?
	Whistler's the big mountain where we're with whiskey.
	And there's two other places in Canada people like to visit.
	There's a small pond, I believe, in Alberta.
	Alright, enough.
	Back to my uncle.
	So he tells a pretty cool story.
	You know, Don always has these great stories, which some of I've related on the show.
	And he rolled one out, which I'm going to ask him, we're going to see him for his 60th wedding anniversary in July.
	He rolled one out on Zakaria about trying to...
	The Koreans have been trying to get this going for a long time.
	All they want is, look, let us keep our stuff, our nuclear weapons, but we want peace.
	And they even tried it through him with a personal letter.
	They don't want to give up their nuclear weapons.
	They want to be able to...
	This is some douchebag who they brought on to be controversial.
	...have their cake and eat it too.
	And U.S. policy for the past quarter century has been, these things are all on the table if you are willing to give up your nuclear weapons.
	And so this is the problem.
	This is the dilemma right now.
	How do you overcome that?
	By talking to them.
	I mean, I'm a man who hand-carried a written offer to start talks with North Korea to the White House in 2002, November.
	It had come directly from Kim Jong-il through Kang Sok-ju to me.
	I got there, Steve Hadley took a look at it, said, no, we won't talk to them.
	Talking to them would be rewarding bad behavior.
	I was in and out of the White House in 20 minutes without a single question having been asked.
	So our unwillingness to talk to them, despite the aberrations and so forth, I think has put us where we are.
	There you go.
	Makes total sense.
	Of course, this is also kind of, you know, you're sticking with the agency, and you wouldn't disparage our current president.
	Which I always find, really?
	Really?
	But that's it.
	I think truly that's all I want.
	And we can just wrap it up with this.
	He circles around at the end of this interview and says kind of pretty much the same thing, but I think it's worth just listening to.
	I think there's not going to be a collapse in North Korea.
	The Chinese will not allow that to happen.
	That's what they fear most.
	Yeah, because they don't need the immigrants.
	Yeah, they don't want that.
	And I think we have a young man who's going to be around for several decades, who is looking for some external support for what he's trying to do.
	The only people who've given them that so far are the Russians, who canceled a $7 billion debt that North Korea owed them, which is a very astute move.
	So I hope that we can get through this period of training.
	Training!
	He slipped that in.
	What he means by training is that President Obama is going to be talking to the President of South Korea.
	That's the training.
	President Park and I get to know each other.
	I hope after we've reached out to the Chinese that there can be a sensible, multilateral approach.
	And the Chinese, apparently.
	That's the training.
	Forward.
	Addressing some of the central concerns that the North Koreans are trying to make clear to us.
	And that is that they want a peace treaty.
	There it is.
	That's it.
	And I'm going to believe Uncle Don.
	I don't think he has any dog in the hunt anymore.
	Well, no, that's crazy to think, actually.
	Well, he's a little old.
	There's no reason that this would be...
	I mean, what would be the point of creating this bullcrap story?
	No, he has...
	It doesn't make any sense.
	The only thing that makes sense is that what he said is absolutely true.
	The only logic is...
	I mean, then we're moving missiles around because we think the North Koreans are just going to haphazardly send a missile and blow up Seattle?
	Yeah.
	It's just a lesson?
	I mean, what...
	Anyone who would believe such a thing is a moron.
	And CNN, you wonder, yeah, they've got all this 3D stuff trying to get people to watch the show.
	But I think the dumbest member of the public has to look at this and it makes no sense.
	They go, I'll play the dumb guy.
	That doesn't make any sense.
	No, that's not.
	We throw the crap out of them.
	I mean, it doesn't make any sense.
	No, no, no, John.
	I think you've got it wrong.
	This is how it goes.
	You got the voice right, by the way, but it's like, oh yeah?
	We'll blow the crap out of yos.
	That's how it goes.
	It's not like, why?
	No, it's just like, oh, you don't attack our homeland.
	I honestly don't believe that.
	I don't think at the lowest level it's as dumb as you.
	John, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	You're incorrect.
	This is too off the wall.
	This is the stupidest thing to get anybody to believe that the North Koreans are going to just send a missile over for no good reason.
	Or the same thing with, well here, I just sent you another clip on another email.
	This was from a couple of weeks ago.
	This is Kelly Ayotte.
	Can you cue that up?
	Yeah, I'm working on it right now.
	This is Kelly Ayotte, that woman who hangs out with McCain all the time.
	She's like a little puppy dog around.
	Yeah, the tall, goofy one.
	She's the brunette that looks kind of like...
	Yeah, she's goofy.
	She was pretty when she was younger.
	She's still kind of, you know, she's milfy.
	But she's got those...
	She's either a smoker...
	Yeah.
	She's got those little vertical lines on her upper lip, and if she's not a smoker, then I think you can figure it out.
	Whatever the case, she's McCain's stooge.
	Yeah, for president.
	This is her.
	Where McCain can't be, he's not in every committee, obviously, this is actually her channeling McCain in a hearing.
	Thank you, Senator Reid.
	Senator Ayer.
	Thank you, Mr.
	Chairman.
	I want to thank both of our witnesses for your leadership and for your service to our country.
	I wanted to follow up General Keeler on the issue of the intercontinental ballistic missile threat to the country that Senator Inhofe and Senator Reid asked you about.
	And you used the term in terms of, I think you said, not optimum in terms of some of the challenges we may face there.
	Just so it's clear to people, if now we and ICBM were headed to the West Coast, we would get a shoot-look-shoot at it, correct?
	Because of our missile defense system, but we don't have an East Coast missile defense system.
	So if Iran develops ballistic missile capability, we don't have the same capacity, do we, on the East Coast of the country?
	Well, I hate to say it, the answer is it depends.
	Be afraid, slave.
	Be very afraid.
	It depends on what a country like Iran would do, where they would launch from, what the azimuths are, etc.
	Azimuth!
	The intent is that as time passes and additional features are added to the ballistic missile defense system...
	Oh, I can't hear this!
	This is...
	Actually, it's phenomenally good.
	This is just as dumb as the cyber war talk they do in Congress.
	It depends on the azimuth.
	Oh, yeah?
	Let me take this broomstick.
	Let me put this broomstick in the azimuth.
	Two feet above the ground, what are we going to do?
	It's not right, I tell you.
	Our capability to defend improves.
	But just so we're clear, as of today, am I not correct in saying...
	That's a very poor English, by the way.
	...that West Coast, North Korea, we get shoot, look, shoot.
	Shoot, look, shoot.
	Write that down, John.
	That is such a great show title.
	We don't get the same capacity on the East Coast if Iran...
	You know, some analysts believe that they could develop this ICBM capability as soon as 2015.
	That may or may not be correct.
	Ha ha!
	But at this point, our missile defense is, the capacity is different on the east coast of the country versus the west coast.
	Isn't that true?
	Isn't that true?
	You're leading the witness!
	Tentatively say yes and provide you a better answer for the record.
	I appreciate it because the National Research Council actually this year recommended an additional ballistic missile site on the East Coast.
	Isn't that right?
	Yes.
	They are one of the organizations that has looked at this, yes.
	That's a very good clip.
	So, I just want to say, Uncle Don does have a dog in the hunt.
	It's South Korea.
	I think he really, truly loves all Koreans, but officially he was in South Korea.
	He was ambassador.
	Unofficially, I'm pretty sure he was in North Korea a lot.
	He's got a dog in the hunt that's the only reason he's made contact, but it doesn't mean he'd come up with a line of crap.
	No, that's what I'm saying.
	Of course he has a dog in the hunt, but he's telling the truth.
	He is really speaking on behalf of...
	Dennis Rodman agrees with him, so how could they possibly be wrong?
	But Dennis Rodman comes out and says the truth, and everyone ridicules him.
	Uncle Don comes out, everyone ignores him.
	Right.
	That should have been front page news on the New York Times.
	Yes, of course.
	Because it's spot on.
	By the way, I'll have a New York Times report for you later today.
	Oh, good, good, good.
	Let us thank our producers so we can continue with some...
	This is a good conversation because this really shows you, unfortunately, how dumb the world populace is because people will believe this the world over.
	This is just starting, this campaign.
	Yeah, no, I agree.
	It's distressing.
	Except for the people who listen and produce this program, who are clearly awake and are not foiled by this idiocy and the cool 3D graphics and the forthcoming movie.
	Well, the Joker, right, there's definitely going to be a movie.
	But the joke is, of course, is that nobody except you, apparently, have seen these great graphics because nobody buys into CNN and it's bullcrap, which, of course, is another reason nobody picked up on Don Gregg because he was on that Zacarias show and that guy, who wants to watch him?
	Well, we know the numbers are low.
	We know that.
	But the CNN piece was produced, and they will run that over and over again, I learned from my MTV days, which really had no...
	At any given time, we had less than a one rating.
	A.1 rating and prime time was.5.
	So you're really talking at any given moment in MTV's history when they were playing music videos, 70,000 people were watching.
	But repetition is what does it.
	And I think Jeff Zucker knows that and they've brought in Jake Tapper now and they're really trying to do something.
	It will fail because it's just lame.
	The person they should have on all the time is Candy Crowley.
	I'm all for Rubenesque women.
	Well, she's actually very...
	She's great!
	She's not bad.
	No, she's not bad at all.
	But they're going to repeat this thing, and you will see this thing with the graphics, and you'll just go, holy crap, I have never seen that on television.
	Huh.
	Okay.
	Well, let's thank some of the producers who helped us with show 497.
	96.
	The spreadsheet is off.
	He's off always one number.
	It's weird.
	It's 496.
	Anyway, 496.
	Anonymous from Wahiawa, Hawaii.
	I think this anonymous came in on Thursday as well.
	Maybe.
	I don't know how it could have because I didn't download it.
	I just remember Wahiawa.
	Yeah, I remember Wahiawa too, but I don't remember being at the top of the list.
	Whatever.
	Simon, it's possible.
	There's a couple in here that look like repeats to me.
	Simon Bennett, Ipswich, Suffolk, 494.
	I'd appreciate some getting laid karma plus a birthday call out.
	We got that set up.
	Maybe if you go pay only, we're still not considering that at this moment.
	Let me give them some getting laid karma.
	That's important stuff.
	You've got karma.
	By the way, this is what's weird.
	It's 494.
	So is it possible that this is a donation for show 494 and this got stuck in the system somehow?
	Well, like you said, I think before we started the show, there's something wrong with PayPal.
	Oh, my God.
	I mean, so our numbers are way off.
	I don't think they're that far off.
	Well, Sir Gitmoslave told me that, and he works at a company that does some processing, and PayPal is somewhere in the mix, and he said that people were, it was a lot of problems that since Friday, for every 10 payment attempts, only one would work.
	So there's something going on.
	Oh, man, we should have switched to Bitcoin when we had the chance.
	Yeah.
	We're fools!
	Yeah, yeah.
	Alright, so Anonymous and Simon Bennett will be our...
	And, of course, the 500 from Anonymous is a special birthday donation for our 500th show.
	And we have a bunch more of us executive producers.
	Wade Deming in Anchorage, Alaska, and Robert Rock.
	And I couldn't find anything from Wade.
	Robert Rock, Sir Robert, actually in Anchorage, Alaska, which I think was interesting because Wade came up with 3-3-3-3-3, and then we had 3-13-13.
	But this two Anchorage, Alaska things bumped right in.
	It's crazy.
	Hey, you guys, get together.
	Yeah, hang out.
	And I think Wade is close to being a knight.
	We should be starting a dating service.
	When people, yeah.
	I've always tried to, you know, if you're no agenda night, you probably have very likable personality.
	You know, you're probably successful in life.
	You're probably a perfect guy to hang out with another night.
	Richard Gardner in Enmore, New South Wales.
	Can't bear the thought of not having NA to listen to it twice a week.
	Thursday's talking to us to kick up the arse.
	I needed to finally make another donation after two years.
	Travel karma.
	Yes.
	For a work trip to the United States, 31313.
	Oh, and remember, don't opt out.
	You don't have to anymore.
	You can take no agenda travel tip number two when you're in the United States and tell the friendly TSA officer you're unable to raise your arms over your head as a matter of a medical problem, and you will be sent through the metal detector instead.
	And we now have confirmation.
	I think we have at least 15 confirmations on this.
	Yeah.
	Do it while you can.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And if they hassle you, then you can always opt out.
	So I would say go with the medical.
	And we should give it a name.
	And by the way, there are names.
	In the morning-itis?
	If somebody has a trick, they roll off a piece of paper and toss it to you, thinking that you're going to lift your arm to catch it, let it hit you in the head.
	And go, hey, what are you doing?
	Hey, I'm going to sue you, man.
	I can just see the TSA. It's another one of those no agenda a-holes.
	Here, throw a piece of paper at him.
	I think we've got to have a name.
	There's no agenda.
	In the morning-itis.
	I'm in the morning-itis.
	In the morning-itis.
	All right.
	Travel karma for Richard Gardner.
	Karma for all of our producers and exec and associates, of course.
	Sir Brad Doherty in Brooklyn, New York, 31313.
	He's jump-starting his second knighthood and upping the monthly donation to 3333.
	Thank you.
	You guys should just shut down the chat room.
	Good idea.
	I'll do that right now.
	Paul Robertson in Fairfax, Virginia, 31313.
	Let me just make sure.
	Yeah, make sure there's no note hanging in your Gmail from Virginia.
	R-O-B-B-E-R. 31313 is our special, special, special donation for our episode 500, which falls on the 31st of March, 2013.
	Yes, he sent a note.
	Please do not read this on the show.
	Okay, good.
	Okay, so that's that.
	It's his note.
	He does, by the way, suggest that the show is too long.
	Well, we've been, with the donation segment shortening, we're now at about two and a half hours, so I think we're doing much better.
	We almost shut it down.
	And honestly, I feel good at the end of the show instead of worn out and ragged and tired.
	Yeah, well, he suggests two hours, but I think two and a half is fine, because that's five, and that really accounts for a lot of commuters.
	Timothy Tillman, Sir Tim, we could, you know, Timothy Tillman, Sir Tim, actually, in Mechanicsville, Virginia, 300, and he says he gives a crap, and no show is too long.
	More is better.
	I need the show.
	Adam, keep calm and carry on.
	So we have a 31313 that says shortening, and a 300 that says, okay, so far we're 13 points ahead on shortening.
	Yeah.
	Oh, that's a good way to tally it.
	Wait a minute.
	Anyway, that is our executive producers for show 496.
	Yes, in the morning to all of them.
	In the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	Going in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning, all ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	Yes, and also to our artist, Super Leon, thank you very much for the artwork for episode 4, 9, or 5.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can see all of the art.
	It was hard on Thursday.
	There wasn't a lot of...
	I remember it was challenging finding what we wanted.
	Yeah, I got a bunch of stuff.
	Actually, I have a theme.
	When I don't have a lot of news, I find themes.
	I got a good one.
	Oh, okay.
	Do you want to share that?
	No, we've got to finish this segment.
	And I very much want to thank our executive producers.
	This is just like Hollywood people.
	and our associate executive producers for supporting the program, of course.
	So that's why you're listed in the opening credits of the show after the tease, which we did.
	And unlike Hollywood, we will actually vouch for you if someone questions that.
	You can put it on your IMDb.
	You could become a member of the Producers Guild of America, even if you wish.
	But really, it's all about...
	Has anyone managed to do that yet?
	Yes, Sir Gene.
	Oh, okay, good.
	Yeah, of course.
	Yeah, he went through the whole thing.
	You have to have a certain number of credits.
	I think it's four, three or four.
	And that's it.
	That's all you need.
	Publish credits and you're done.
	But don't you have to pay?
	Oh, yeah.
	You got to pay.
	Do you get health insurance?
	That's a good question.
	I think you can get it, but you still have to pay for the health insurance.
	But it's not free.
	Let's put it that way.
	Probably some group deal.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's just like SAG. SAG is not free.
	You have to pay for it.
	In Austin, we have HAM, which is for helping Austin musicians.
	If you can prove that you're a working musician, you get free health care.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's pretty awesome.
	Anyway, if you would like...
	Is this a tambourine count?
	If you get paid for it, and if you live in Austin, and if you're not a douchebag...
	Please continue to support the program so that we can continue bringing you the best podcast in the universe.
	And unlike the musicians in Austin, our health care ain't free.
	And we would like you to always continue to go out and propagate our formula.
	It is very simple.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	You.
	Water.
	Water.
	Hey, citizens.
	Shut up, Slay!
	And, of course, later in the broadcast, we will be thanking our donors over $50 for their support of the program.
	We're still getting lots of people who are now saying, Hey, crap, I've been a boner.
	I'm going to get on $5 a month.
	That's all I can afford.
	Thank you.
	That's all we're really asking for.
	If everyone did $5 a month, boy, we'd have a different conversation.
	But that is Pie in the Sky.
	So we awoke this morning to some interesting news about Euroland, John.
	Yeah, why?
	Well, run for the hills, get your money out of the bank, because the banks are now actually stealing your money.
	Perhaps not surprising that the EU's bailout plan for Cyprus announced yesterday has not gone down well on the small Mediterranean island.
	It demands that everybody who has savings in a Cypriot bank pays a one-off tax of up to 10% of those savings.
	Now, an emergency session in the Parliament has been postponed.
	Three political parties already vowing to oppose the plan.
	So this is...
	You've heard about this, what happened?
	Yeah, it's great.
	So let me just get this straight and you tell me if I'm crazy.
	So they took money...
	Cyprus, which is part of the EU... And, of course, there's billions and billions of Russian money in the bank accounts there.
	That's a little sideline that should not go unnoticed as part of this.
	So they take, I think, $15 billion in IMF bailouts, which, of course, is for the banks, because all this money is all going back in the banks.
	I think we've pretty much established that.
	If not, let me just remind you, citizens of the European Union, that this bailout money goes to your banks.
	So now, in order to pay back the money that was borrowed for the banks, who pretty much squandered that money and just paid it to wherever the money is, poof, it's gone.
	Now, they are going to take your money that's in the bank and use that to pay back the elitist IMF. And so under 100,000 euros, it's 6.9%.
	And if you have over 100,000 euros, it's 9.9% of your money.
	And they just take it.
	They just remove it from your account.
	And if you think that this is only going to happen to some idiots on an island south of Greece...
	It's a test.
	I'd say it's beyond a beta test, actually.
	They're sending out invites.
	This is a reverse interest rate concept.
	Is that what they're calling it these days?
	No, that's what it's going to be called.
	Oh, right.
	We have our interest rates.
	The Fed has kept them down to nothing, zero, so you can get money really cheap.
	And there's been talk about a reverse interest rate where you actually have to pay for somebody to hold your money.
	Well, the European, the Bank of England, I think, was talking about doing that, about doing a negative interest rate.
	And in fact, if you think about service fees and charges that banks have been putting on people for holding their money, that's always been kind of like a weird reverse tax.
	Because why am I giving the bank thousands of dollars and then they're charging me for the privilege of taking that money and using it as their collateral?
	Yeah.
	Don't you understand the system yet?
	It's a scam.
	So, well, yeah, but I'm kind of astounded.
	This, to me, this is, it's not just a beta test for the EU. I think it's a beta test for the world.
	I think it's a beta test for banks in America.
	If we can do this and people do not go and shoot their politicians, I mean, someone's got to chop a head off.
	Maybe.
	Well, what are you thinking then?
	Well, I'm thinking that this may actually, I think there's an unintended consequence of this sort of thing if they can get away with it.
	So say they get away with it.
	Now you have the argument for a wealth tax.
	Because this essentially is a wealth tax, but it's disguised as a fee or whatever or something because it's only savings.
	But if you're going to go that far, why don't we just drop the income?
	A lot of people are arguing this anyway, and I'm one of them because they do this in Switzerland to great effect.
	And this also shuts up Warren Buffett and Bill Gates.
	Oh, we need to pay more taxes on our income.
	They'll shut up faster than you can imagine and squeal like pigs.
	At the trough, being denied their food, if you institute a wealth tax.
	And I have done the calculation on the classic kinds of wealth taxes, which can be, it's usually 5-10% maybe at the most.
	If you start to, I forget what the classic is, maybe 3, it's not a lot.
	What countries are doing this?
	Switzerland is the country that has made it work.
	And there's no poverty in Switzerland.
	So let's start with that premise.
	Of course, there's a lot of reasons for that.
	But anyway, it's been tried in other countries, but the elites have railed against it.
	have railed against it.
	No, no, because it's unequal to have taxes on income because it prevents people from getting into the wealthy classes because you're just being taxed before you even accumulate money.
	But if you had a wealth tax, which turns out to be, I wish I had the number in front of me because I talked about this before, but it's not a lot, but it turns out to be less.
	I'd be paying, for example, myself, and I'm middle income.
	I would be paying less total as a wealth tax.
	I'd be with the houses I have.
	I'd still be paying less than I would with an income tax, but it would be more than made up for by guys like Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, who would be paying a lot, which is what they should be paying because it's their fair Well, in the Netherlands, they have a wealth tax.
	They've had it, man, I think for as long as I've known.
	I'm just looking up the number.
	I think it is...
	Well, it's progressive...
	But it can be up to 4%.
	It can be 30% of your top 4%.
	It's very complicated.
	It's called from Mohansbelusting.
	But this, of course, is why people, you know, shuttle money out of the country, other places.
	And I'm amazed, where's Max Keiser hyping Bitcoin?
	This is the perfect story for him.
	Yeah, this is right.
	You're right.
	Right?
	Yeah, if the guy would just try to sound like an insane person, I think he'd probably get on more stuff.
	And I just mentioned Bitcoin, and it went from $48.01 to $47.06.
	We just lost $0.70 Bitcoin in like a second.
	I thought you dumped yours already.
	No!
	No, I told you I dumped some so I can pay your share of the Bitcoin we received.
	And I'm keeping the rest.
	I'm going to be a Bitcoin millionaire.
	What are you talking about?
	All I need is one coin.
	But I want to be richer than you.
	I want to have a hundred million.
	Max Keiser promised me.
	Well, I find it highly disturbing.
	Well, I'm just telling you, this is what the unintended consequence could well be.
	So these guys who think they're getting away with something here by stealing people's savings, they're just asking for trouble.
	Yeah, they'd have to put a low cap on it, because this is, you know, the dumb slave who has 100 euros in his bank account, basically someone just went in there and took seven.
	Just, thank you very much.
	You know, that's not okay.
	So you'd have to have a cap, a low-end cap, Well, this also tells you not to put money in a bank.
	I'm saying gold.
	Yeah, don't put money in the bank.
	Exactly.
	You keep it under the bed.
	Gold, I'm telling you, my friend.
	Gold!
	Gold.
	So, do you remember the...
	Are you ready to move on?
	Yeah, yeah, I'm done.
	I can't find the number I'm looking for, so I'll get it back to it.
	We'll talk about the wealth tax again in the future.
	Yeah, I do have some others.
	Well, we'll talk about you.
	We'll circle around back to Euroland.
	But meanwhile, in Chicago...
	This report, very interesting.
	And it's interesting for a number of reasons.
	So South by Southwest in Austin, we have not learned.
	Is that thing over yet?
	No, it goes on for months.
	How long does this thing go on?
	It goes on for months.
	I think it ends maybe this Sunday.
	But then when no one's really sure.
	That would be today.
	No, no, no.
	In a week.
	Oh my God.
	I think it's three weeks total.
	This is a big inconvenience for people that work in that town.
	Not at all.
	Not at all.
	We're very happy.
	You know what happens?
	It's like, of course, the service industry when it comes to bars and restaurants and the city and just everyone's making money.
	We're all happy.
	We love it.
	We know that when people come for South By, we'll get rain.
	That's great, too, because we need the rain.
	And it also keeps those slaves in line.
	This is perfect.
	Everyone really, really loves this.
	The local musicians get to perform.
	Everyone's making money.
	The other side of the service industry, like the hairdresser, these people, they leave.
	They're just gone.
	They rent out their house for $400 or $500 a night for a room.
	I'm not kidding.
	They'll rent that out, and they'll go either to Friends in Houston or Dallas or out of state, whatever.
	So you can't actually get anything else done unless you want to drink and eat.
	It's like Rio de Janeiro during Carnival.
	During Carnival.
	All the locals leave.
	Yeah, except for us.
	But I kind of like it because we're so close, people can walk from South Congress to our house.
	So we've learned now that we have to do two things.
	One, not...
	So people are walking up to your house and egging the place?
	What's the deal?
	No, only friends.
	Friends from out of town.
	But I think we should join up with the South by Southwest organization and get a piece of the action.
	You have to buy a badge to come to our house.
	I think that's...
	You have to have a badge.
	Yes, here he comes.
	Is somebody else going to Adam's house?
	You have a badge.
	Are you guys going?
	We got a badge.
	No, we're going to do a concert series next year.
	Totally.
	A backyard concert series.
	So anyway, so people are coming by and bringing beautiful house gifts.
	And I got, yeah, it's a big plus.
	Last night we had Mike and Jane Over, producers of the show, executive producers, and they live in Austin.
	Mike's a musician.
	He teaches, plays guitar, and he brought his guitar.
	I mean, how cool is that, right?
	We're sitting outside.
	We're in Austin.
	He's playing.
	I'm playing along on the slide whistle.
	Much to the chagrin of everyone.
	I wish somebody had been recording this.
	This fantastic event.
	And the kazoo.
	Go on.
	And Jane, she's actually very cute.
	She bought over a handmade pot.
	She makes pottery in her spare time with marjoram growing in it.
	And that, of course, is based upon your recommendation on the show, so that was nice.
	But Charlie came over, Charlie Thompson came over the other day, and he brought over two gifts.
	One was a Texas license plate, which he had cut with a plasma lance into the state map of Texas.
	That's the kind of thing you want here on your Austin home.
	And the other one was Mint Inbox with...
	Instruction manual.
	What?
	Wait, back up.
	Mint in box?
	Mint, as in mint condition.
	Oh, mint.
	In the original box from 1961, a Victorine Instrument Company Geiger counter.
	Oh, good.
	And just to prove it here, there's a little test thing on it.
	Here we go.
	There's the...
	Can you hear it?
	Yeah, it's a Geiger counter.
	Yeah.
	That's the noise they make.
	Yeah.
	You know how that works is like 9,000 volts are going through that detector.
	Yeah, but it's no amps.
	No.
	But I still wouldn't put my tongue on it.
	So that was kind of apropos, because of course I immediately think of putting your tongue on it.
	Anyway, go on.
	That's part of the Tourette's.
	So, of course, I'm going around.
	They're looking at every piece of Chinese junk that we've bought at Bed Bath& Beyond.
	I'm checking for if there's any Geiger.
	Yeah, for radiation.
	You should take it to the sushi bar.
	Yeah, I'm going to take it to Ushi.
	I'm totally doing it.
	Hold on a second.
	I know the owner of Ushi.
	I said, hey, I'm going to check your fish.
	There's a lot of fish coming in from Japan.
	Yeah, but it's not radioactive.
	You don't know that.
	I do.
	But what's interesting is something happened in Chicago, which I believe to be a complete setup event.
	But it involved Geiger counters.
	And not just Geiger counters, but the elite, John.
	The elite Viper team.
	We have categories of these Viper teams now?
	And one is the elite?
	No, all Viper team apparently is elite.
	They've gone from douchebag TSA, which is who runs the Viper team, to the elite.
	Now they're like some...
	But when you hear how dumb they are in trying to find this nuclear threat in Chicago, they're anything but elite.
	Chicago commuters were stunned.
	A nuclear scare on board a Chicago Metro train just last night.
	And you don't think that's related to North Korea, do you?
	I mean, of course.
	This is all a part of the big, be afraid of nuclear.
	Be afraid of nuclear.
	And, you know, Dvorak, you're probably on the payroll, too.
	Yo, your sushi's nuclear!
	CBS2 investigator Dave Savini shows us what federal agents found...
	I wish!
	Now, listen, I want you to hear the setup.
	Federal agents, they're calling.
	Just last night, CBS2 investigator Dave Savini shows us what federal agents found on board in this original report.
	It's an original report, which means the White House didn't give it to them.
	It's an original report.
	That's very funny.
	That's kind of good.
	In other words, they took the information and changed it around a little bit so it's, you know, original.
	It's original.
	Yeah, it's localized.
	It's not an enormous crapper you read that you sent from the White House.
	I think they should say this localized report.
	That would be better.
	We've localized this report.
	I know whose bag this is.
	Sources say these are members of the elite TSA Viper team.
	Ooh!
	Who says?
	Sources.
	Sources.
	Aboard the 5.04 p.m.
	Union Pacific West Line.
	They're carrying handheld nuclear detection devices.
	Handheld nuclear detection devices!
	I think that's what I have.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I have a handheld nuclear detection device, also known as a Geiger counter, handy as a housewarming gift.
	Which picked up a reading for nuclear activity.
	Viper teams were created after the 2004 bombing of a train in Madrid, Spain to protect U.S. transportation.
	To harass passengers.
	At the Ogilvy station, they detained this train and searched for the person or bag that could be posing a deadly threat.
	Now what do you think happened?
	What do you think this was all about?
	What do you think would happen?
	I want to hear your guess of what went on and what this nuclear...
	They found the planted guy and they found the bag and then they kicked the crap out of it.
	And then they realized that he was actually TSA himself.
	Unfortunately, this didn't end with a tasing, which is how I wanted it to end too, but no.
	The bag in question turns out to be clean, but there's still a signal of something nuclear somewhere on the train.
	Do you hear that script?
	Wow.
	That was...
	I've got to play that again.
	How would you know that, by the way?
	It doesn't give off that much radiation.
	Well, because this is fake.
	We know it's fake, but why doesn't the news guys say, you know, this seems like a bogus, bogus, bogative report, and then start asking some hard questions, and then say, well, they wouldn't get back to us on the answers.
	But you're now presuming that the news is not meant that, you know, just like CNN with a 3D graphic, this is all meant to program your brain, you dumb slave.
	I mean, I know you understand this, please.
	There at the Ogilvy station, they detain this train and search for the person or bag that could be posing a deadly threat.
	The bag in question turns out to be clean, but there's still a signal of something nuclear somewhere on the train.
	This is a script.
	They were in charge and they weren't going to let that train go out until they knew it was safe.
	Jerry Jones, a Chicago lawyer, was heading home on that train.
	He's the passenger in the blue shirt.
	Also known as the Patsy, or as the guy for the inside job.
	They actually narrowed it down to the people right around you on the train.
	Yes, they did.
	And the entire time you're sitting there thinking, I wonder what they're looking for.
	I had no idea that I was the center of the activity.
	Jones says the special security team must have picked up on him as he entered the station and walked up these stairs.
	Little did he know that a nuclear stress test he took earlier in the day would have set off silent alarms and sent security scurrying.
	A nuclear stress test that he had.
	Oh!
	What is that?
	I don't know.
	I've never heard of such a thing.
	Apparently it's very normal.
	Let's look it up!
	You do that and I'll play the rest of the report because this guy is obviously the shill.
	Probably 15 minutes.
	15 minutes they're kind of buzzing around looking for this bag or person.
	The TSA team passed right by him several times before ending up on his train car.
	Finally, he got a clue when an agent questioned the man right next to him.
	And said, sir, do you have an explanation as to why I'm getting a high isotope reading on your bag?
	Oh yes, I had isotope for breakfast!
	What kind of...
	So if there's someone with a suitcase nuke, of course, the TSA goes in and says, Stop, citizen!
	Why am I getting a high isotope reading?
	A nuclear stress test is a non-invasive imaging test that uses a tiny amount of radioactive material known as a tracer.
	The tracer which is injected into your arms.
	A doctor friend of mine is one of these guys, by the way.
	It emits a certain kind of energy called gamma rays that can be detected by a special camera.
	The information is processed and they can reconstruct it to get a better picture of your heart.
	The tooth tracers use, the doctor may use a radionucle...
	So they see if your arteries are wide enough, I guess.
	Yeah, something like that.
	Okay, it's for heart disease.
	You got a little shot of some...
	Isotopes!
	Citizen, what are you doing with those isotopes, citizen?
	And it seems as if...
	This doesn't make sense to me because it would seem to me that the amount of radiation is so small and it's obviously within the body.
	Well, I think it's making total sense because what this report is intended to communicate is infinitesimal amounts.
	So even if you've been in contact with...
	Thallium.
	Okay, they're using thallium.
	Okay, we'll stop.
	I know what you're saying.
	I know where you're going to go with this, which is that this is...
	They're creating a bogative thing that makes you think it's more sensitive than it is.
	So thallium is what they're, I guess, one of the things they're using, which is very radioactive.
	We used to have some at the lab in, at, oh no, I'm sorry, it was thorium.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm mixing up my radioactive.
	Yeah, and that's why they kick you out of the lab, I think.
	But we used to have a jar of this stuff, and then it was in lead, and so you take the lead off, and then you could test the Geiger counter.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Anyway.
	All right.
	So I will finish my thought.
	It's bull crap.
	They're just making this up to you.
	Wow.
	Even that little amount, they were able to track it.
	Now, of course, the whole thing is crazy, because the guy's sitting right there.
	I mean, they can detect him walking around the station, but they can't, like, get a reading off of him.
	They can't get it with With the gear they got on them.
	Yeah, I know.
	They make mistakes.
	These guys aren't that bright.
	No way.
	So they try to impress upon the public that there's these sensors all over the train stations.
	So if somebody walks into the subway with a bomb, a nuke, you could probably walk in with C4. Why don't you use that?
	I'm not figuring out why you want to have a weapon like a nuke.
	So you bring a nuke into the train station.
	They spot it immediately, and then they track you down like a dog within 15 minutes.
	That's right.
	Not just they, the Elite Viper team.
	The Elite Vipers, they come in.
	The Elite Vipers.
	I guess the Chicago Public just lapsed this up a little bit.
	Of course.
	They love it.
	In fact, we have to, I mean, how do we pay off a segment like this?
	We know the script.
	What is always going to be the end result?
	How do we wrap it up?
	How do we put a bow around it?
	I don't know.
	Yes, you do.
	Pass a new law.
	No.
	You know how we wrap it up.
	We want the public saying they feel safe.
	Oh, no, right.
	If you're doing a package, yeah, now you go interview people, and the one guy who says, this sounds like a bunch of malarkey to me, you keep him out of the report, and everybody else goes on and on about, oh, I feel so much safer.
	I wish these Viper teams were around here more often.
	It's better to be safe than sorry.
	Tell his jaw dropped it.
	Once the agent said isotope, Jones says he realized he was the one they were looking for.
	That's when he raised his hand to confess.
	I had a nuclear stress test.
	After showing his ID and proof of the nuclear test, which can leave patients emitting radiation for some time, Jones and the other passengers were allowed to go on their way.
	What feeling do you walk away with?
	One of great security, knowing there are people on the lookout for this type of thing.
	Dave Savini, CBS. So they took the guy who was the patsy, who was the setup, who was the shill, and they made him say that in the sit-down interview.
	This is taking it one step further.
	Yeah, well that may be because they couldn't get anyone else in Chicago to go on camera.
	Because they're like, I ain't doing that, man.
	Which reminds me of an email I got from a producer, Ethan.
	He just sent me this this morning.
	Waiting for the train from White Plains to Grand Central.
	Every time I see a stupid NYPD poster with If You See Something, Say Something, the fucking jingle plays in my head.
	What is that jingle?
	Play it again.
	If you see something, say something.
	I'm thinking, since I see things all the time, I should just start making guttural weirdo noises.
	That'll keep the other slaves from sitting next to me on the subway.
	That would, actually.
	He says, New York blows, can't wait to get back to ATX. There's a couple different ways to keep people from sitting next to you.
	One of them, which I've found to be very useful, is to wear one of those masks like you're sick.
	Yeah.
	And also spray yourself a little bit with some...
	Rosewater mister.
	Yeah, mister.
	So you get sweat.
	You're all sweaty, especially in your hair.
	And so then wear that.
	No one will sit next to you on that one.
	The other one is if somebody asks if that seat's taken set, you can always say yes by Jesus.
	That usually stops them.
	Oh, hold on.
	I give you an In the Morning.
	I heard the mask one.
	I heard the yes by Jesus.
	I like just having my Geiger counter next to me on the seat.
	Right.
	And wear some really thick glasses and be kind of cross-eyed.
	With a Geiger counter.
	You'd be holding a red stapler in the eye.
	Oh, it hurts.
	It hurts.
	It hurts.
	Oh, man.
	We need more of these tips.
	I think the guttural noises are good, but you've got to do Tourette's tics as well.
	Otherwise, it doesn't work.
	Yeah, the tics are great.
	That was good.
	I was always very lonely on the bus.
	Hey, I ran into a clip for a show they're playing on one of the networks called Brothers in Arms.
	You know about this?
	It's about Vikings or whatever?
	No, it's not about Vikings.
	It's about Vikings.
	No, I thought that was about Vietnam or something.
	No, no, this is about Vikings, I'm sure of it.
	But listen to this clip and tell me, I don't know, maybe I'm hearing things, but it seems to me, this is about Vikings, by the way, it seems to me that I might be mishearing one of the assertions made in this clip, and you can tell me if you hear the same thing.
	Dear brothers, you and I will always be equal.
	All the friends and companions of my youth are dead, feasting and drinking in the halls of the gods.
	Wait, did he say listing and drinking in the halls of the gods or the whores?
	He said fisting and drinking.
	In the whores of the gods?
	In the halls of the gods.
	Oh, fisting?
	Well, I don't know what it sounds like.
	What is the point of that?
	What's going on with those whores?
	Let me listen.
	Oh, what happened?
	You didn't back it up enough.
	Oh, I didn't back it up enough.
	I'm sorry about that.
	Brothers, you and I will always be equal.
	All the friends and companions of my youth are dead.
	Feasting and drinking in the halls of the gods.
	I'm in.
	I gotta watch this show.
	Feasting and drinking.
	I am in.
	That's what it says.
	What can I say?
	We watched every single episode of Dallas.
	Oh, the new Dallas or the old Dallas?
	The new one, of course.
	Yeah, okay.
	We leave tomorrow.
	Mickey's shooting on Tuesday.
	Oh, that's right.
	You had to watch them all so you can get a feeling, so she can get into it.
	Yeah.
	What do you think?
	It is...
	Is she going to fit right in?
	Oh, yeah.
	Do you know what the character is?
	Have you seen the script?
	I'm not allowed to talk.
	Oh, please.
	Mm-mm.
	Well, does she do the role right?
	Oh, yeah.
	Is she a murderer?
	Let me ask you that.
	Is she a murderer?
	She might be.
	Ooh.
	Yeah, she definitely is a very deep character.
	Huh.
	If they continue the character in Season 3.
	So I tried to get some clips from CPAC. I got one.
	I got one too, and I think I got the best clip.
	Even though it's not a funny clip like the fisting one.
	How come no one says that at CPAC? And please explain what CPAC is.
	CPAC is a conservative political action committee.
	They have a huge meeting every year where they insult various Republicans and other conservatives who they don't invite to speak.
	And every douchebag in the world comes up there and rails about how the Republicans suck and they should all become conservatives.
	What is the point of this?
	What is the point of the CPAC? It gets full attention of C-SPAN, so all these speakers who you've never seen before in your life get to go yakking away about one thing or another.
	And who pays for all of this?
	I find it tedious.
	Who pays for all of this?
	I don't know.
	The Koch brothers.
	I have no idea.
	So what's the point of it?
	Isn't the point is to be an indicator of who's going to be the right candidate for 2016?
	It's a rally.
	It's a rally.
	Yeah, but rallies cost money.
	Someone's got to be paying for this junk.
	You have to get the pay to go.
	I have no idea.
	I don't care.
	But this is a good little speech.
	This is the NRA guy so you can figure out where the punchline is.
	The one that says CPAC? Yeah.
	At the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs, officials recommend that women defend themselves against a rapist.
	With passive resistance.
	Passive resistance?
	The one thing a violent rapist deserves to face is a good woman with a gun.
	Yeah!
	Remember we played that clip of the university security officer who was saying you should pee or tell the rapist that you're going to throw up?
	Remember that?
	Yeah.
	That's what that was about.
	Yeah, I guess.
	I think the gun's funnier.
	No, I think the funny was that there was a No Agenda listener in the audience.
	Did you hear him?
	No.
	Oh, you missed him right at the beginning.
	He yelled, in the morning?
	Almost as good.
	I also came with a message.
	A message for the President.
	A message that is loud and clear.
	A message that doesn't mince words.
	No!
	That has to be a no agenda listener.
	Don't drone me, bro.
	Yeah, I mean, come on.
	That has to be a no agenda.
	That is one of ours.
	That has to be.
	There's just no...
	But the timing is so beautiful.
	I mean, only a no agenda person can understand how you time something like that.
	Yeah, I think you're right.
	I think it was a no agenda person.
	I want to know who that is, that person becomes...
	Give yourself credit.
	Give us an email.
	Yeah, I just want to hear that again.
	I also came with a message.
	A message for the president.
	A message that is loud and clear.
	A message that doesn't mince words.
	Don't drone me, bro!
	That's not exactly what I was thinking.
	Yeah, but that's what we're thinking.
	That's what the no agenda people think.
	Why is it that our thinking is so crazy?
	I don't know.
	It makes sense to me.
	Yeah, it's like, you know, don't drone me.
	Meanwhile...
	You know, it's an outrage.
	It's just an outrage what Iran is doing.
	I mean, it's just an outrage what they're doing with our drones.
	It has just now learned Iran has targeted a U.S. predator drone as it flew over the Persian Gulf in international airspace.
	The incident earlier this week saw Iranian military aircraft shadow the drone until it left the area.
	Three administration officials have confirmed the incident and all say no shots were fired.
	The confrontation is just the latest here in Iranian efforts to prevent the US military's intelligence gathering operations in that region.
	I mean, we're so arrogant.
	At least that's what our prostitutes are taught to talk about.
	Like, oh, you know, they won't let us fly!
	They won't let us spy on them!
	Who do they think they are?
	I know, it's amazing.
	But it's so matter-of-fact.
	I'm just blown away.
	I'm just really blown away.
	I'm blown away that the Iranians didn't shoot the thing down.
	No, they're not stupid.
	Why?
	What are they going to know?
	If you're in behind it with a jet or you send a missile and you blow it out of the sky and the thing just stops working, go, what happened?
	Then they can claim they caught it.
	But it's really become...
	Here's what's happened.
	We no longer have a television kind of in our living space.
	And I think that's really a good thing.
	In the morning, we'd have the news.
	We'd have CNN or something on.
	In the morning?
	In the morning.
	But then it would kind of stay on.
	It's very unsettling when you think about it.
	It's not good for your health.
	It would be under the guise of, I have to know what's going on.
	But meanwhile, it's kind of like waking up and someone taking a needle and poking it in your retina.
	It's not a good thing for you.
	It makes you irritated.
	So we moved here.
	We couldn't really find a place for the television, for the little news television in the kitchen area.
	And I said, well, let's screw it.
	We're not going to do that.
	Let's just not do it.
	So now what has happened is when I'm in the Camp Mofo studio, or the Travis Heights hideout, of course I have several monitors here, and then it becomes that much.
	I notice that I'm more aware of...
	How Orwellian it really is.
	They're really trying to teach you something.
	It is just training.
	And because I haven't been so subdued or so knocked down by the constant barrage that when I'm exposed to it, kind of like a Geiger counter, now I'm like, oh!
	Wow, this is amazing what's happening.
	Nothing really shows that as much as, and even though this is kind of from a week ago, the big sugary drink ban went into effect in New York.
	So you're not allowed to have a certain...
	You are not allowed...
	It was thrown out by a judge.
	It still went into effect.
	It went into effect.
	I understand it was thrown out by a judge.
	No, it went into effect.
	Hell with the courts.
	Hell with the law.
	Which I'm going to bring up later as a theme, by the way, with Thomas Drake.
	Good.
	And the editor, this woman, editor of Fortune Magazine, was on...
	I don't remember what show it was.
	Maybe it was Morning Junk.
	And when you hear how the media is all like, you know, we need to teach people.
	You know, people need help.
	People are dumb.
	People don't understand.
	There's portion control.
	You know, because you slaves are too stupid.
	It's frightening to me to what lengths the media will go in cahoots with government to literally control us.
	I'm waiting for the moment in NCIS, which is the number one rated show on television, on CBS, Tuesdays at 8, 9, or 10.
	I can't remember.
	8 Central.
	They have this one character, Abby.
	And she is the weirdo that works in the lab.
	And she's like some sort of a genius in the lab.
	And when she gets to work on a big project, she brings out one of those giant big gulps.
	Like this huge one.
	They're like 32-ouncers.
	You're not allowed to have that.
	16 is your max.
	Yeah.
	Well, of course, I don't know where they are.
	They're ahead.
	Well, they're in New York, aren't they?
	No, no.
	NCIS is...
	It doesn't matter.
	No, it's in the Washington, D.C. area.
	She'll still say that she'll make a New York reference.
	I believe...
	That's what I'm waiting for.
	I'm absolutely convinced someone's going to get a call.
	Hey, you know, we're trying to get the whole country on board, and every time this Abby character is walking around with a 32-ounce big gulp, it might be appropriate if you had her change her portion size.
	Okay.
	I think, you know what, you'll monitor that for us.
	CBS, what is it, Tuesdays, 9, 8 central.
	What are you, TV Guide now?
	Can I just say something about this drinks thing?
	Please, please.
	So, we talk a lot about this show.
	This is the Fortune magazine editor.
	About leadership and the lack of leadership.
	And the mayor himself has come on here and said, you know, sometimes you have to do not what your people want you to do, but what, you have to take people by the hand and lead them.
	You know, this is In business, we talk about the way Steve Jobs managed things, which is he doesn't do what consumers want.
	He takes you and yanks you and gives you something you didn't know you needed.
	And, you know, I think this is a case of that.
	I think that if you look at the obesity rates, if you look at, I also think it might be overturned because the reasons the judge gave, the loopholes, the refills, it doesn't apply to refills, those seem to be minor to me.
	If you look at what the mayor did with smoking, that seemed just as outrageous back when he instituted it.
	And, you know, I thank him every day when I go to a, well, when I used to go to bars.
	You slut.
	The next day you wake up and your hair doesn't smell like smoke.
	I mean, there's a lot of people that didn't want that to happen.
	This is exactly what I said when the mayor said no more smoking anywhere, not even in the park.
	And I still believe that if you want to have a bar filled with smoke, I won't go in it anymore because even I'm disgusted.
	But that's a commercial decision.
	You've got to make up your own mind.
	We're fine.
	When he shut that down, I said, you watch.
	And so next it's the size of your drink.
	And next it's just going to keep going like that.
	And then for these idiots, these douchebags...
	Don't forget the salt fiat.
	Ugh!
	Which is still in effect?
	And these idiots to say, you know, well, this is leadership.
	To take you by the hand, you stupid slave, because you're too dumb.
	She should be ashamed of herself.
	Fortune magazine.
	This is the kind of editors we have nowadays.
	Ugh!
	It's just...
	Ugh!
	Ugh!
	It was very, very disturbing to hear this.
	And, you know, what's going to be next?
	But I did like how she stumbled.
	Like, when I go into a bar, not that I go into bars anymore to be a slut.
	Yeah, that was funny.
	Yeah.
	So, by the way, is anybody out there with a sling box in Europe?
	Sling box in Europe, I would like to...
	Well, could you specify?
	Would you like one in Cyprus?
	I would like one anywhere in Europe.
	Cyprus would be great.
	The HD version, hopefully, would be best.
	And I would...
	Just saying.
	I've got a couple in New York that are great.
	I've got one in Tampa, one in L.A., two in Calgary.
	Or one in Calgary and two in Detroit.
	And that's about it.
	Hey, Detroit.
	Now, you're monitoring Detroit.
	This is unbelievable what's going on there.
	Detroit, that's basically the Cyprus of America.
	Yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on, that's for sure.
	For one thing, the old mayor was a corrupt politician in his family.
	Apparently the whole family was, so they got him indicted.
	And now the new guy's in there with all this crazy...
	Well, no, it's not just the new guy.
	They brought in a law firm.
	They brought in a financial...
	That was the governor.
	Oh, the governor did not?
	Essentially told Detroit, we're taking over the place.
	Yeah, but you know what it's for?
	It's for derivatives.
	They're selling off the water utility.
	I mean, it is Greece.
	It is Cyprus.
	They're selling it off to pay off to service the derivative debt.
	Credit default swaps, John.
	Which they were, and of course you know who's behind this.
	Well, you'd probably guess Goldman Sachs.
	And UBS. And it's all the same guys.
	And Bank of America.
	They just came in.
	They just stole all of...
	Detroit is not small.
	This is not a small little...
	No, actually, they're selling off the city itself.
	Detroit...
	I didn't realize this because...
	Hey, hey, hey, Buster.
	You want a city?
	I got Detroit.
	I didn't realize this, but Detroit is...
	The city itself is massive.
	It's the size of LA. It's huge.
	It's huge.
	And by the way, Oakland was like a bunch of little communities that all did fine and then they all got together to save money.
	So you have one police force, one mayor, one bookkeeper, all the rest of it.
	It doesn't work.
	The cities should not be much bigger than a couple of square miles and they should each have their own community police forcing.
	Yeah.
	And that would be great for Oakland especially, but the places that stayed out of this, the one place, Piedmont, which is the one community in Oakland, because there's these other towns, Fruitvale, Diamond, there's a bunch of these towns, they all became Oakland except Piedmont.
	Piedmont is now one of the ritziest places in California to live.
	Well, this is the strategy in Austin, which I've spoken to a couple of councilmen, all Democrats, of course, all total Obama tube smokers.
	But still, I like their strategy.
	We're going to have 10 more hotels here over the course of the next 10 years, which is needed because there's no room to do anything.
	But no new roads.
	You want to build?
	You want to be in Austin?
	Great.
	Go out.
	Round Rock, Kyle, Dripping Springs.
	And if you want to come into the city, you can either sit in traffic...
	Or you can go at off hours or just not come.
	You can be a part of our area code.
	You'll have a different digit at the end.
	But go out, not in the city.
	And I think that's a very smart way to do it because you don't want to be.
	Oh, that stinks.
	It's fantastic.
	That's the Jerry Brown approach in California.
	That's what you got your 405 problem in Los Angeles because this is not realistic.
	No, no.
	No, no, that's not true.
	All you're going to have is a huge traffic jam, and people are going to say, oh, this town stinks.
	Good, and then they'll go to Dallas or Houston, which is where we want them.
	That's the whole point.
	And you're going to be stuck with this huge traffic jam?
	No, because we don't have traffic in Austin itself.
	Yet.
	No.
	No, John, no.
	No, no, no.
	You got suckered by one of these sweet talkers at one of your little dinners, your Suarez.
	It was the celebrity fashion show, actually.
	Yeah, there you go.
	I think it's a good strategy.
	I don't want more people.
	I want people to go elsewhere.
	You can't stop it.
	There's a population growth.
	We're not at 150 million anymore.
	We're at 300 million.
	We're going to have to start shooting people then.
	Well, that's a better solution than this bull crap you've come up with, which is just, oh, I'm in the submarine.
	Close the hatch.
	Yes.
	Help anybody else.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	We saw a sign yesterday on South Congress.
	Now listen, this is the attitude of Austonians.
	So there was a sign on South Congress that said, come listen to live music here.
	Don't live here.
	That is exactly our strategy.
	Come, spend your money, get drunk.
	The same thing, I'm in the submarine, close the hatch.
	Yes.
	Everybody but me.
	We have no economy here for you.
	Go away.
	There's nothing to see here.
	Yeah.
	Excuse me.
	Let's work out, by the way.
	Well, so far it's working great.
	Yeah, it always looks good in the beginning.
	You'll see.
	You're going to be moving to Dallas if Mickey manages to get renewed.
	So you're done anyway with Austin.
	No, I will not live in Dallas.
	No, absolutely not.
	Your personality, to be honest about it.
	Blow me.
	That's so untrue.
	I'm so Austin and so not Dallas.
	I'm not Dallas.
	What are you talking about?
	You're more conservative than you are that raving lunatic left winger like you're sounding now with this, let's stop building highways and make everyone take a bicycle.
	I'm not understanding why there's not a bicycle lane here.
	I have bicycle lanes all over the place around here and there's no bicycles in them.
	Yeah, there's a lot of bicycles here and it's very dangerous to ride your bike.
	You're in Texas.
	I'm not a lefty lunatic.
	Dallas is not for me.
	You'll see.
	Put it in the red book if you're so smart.
	Are you going to go to Dallas?
	Yeah, I'm not going to move to Dallas.
	No way.
	If Mickey were to get a full-time gig on Dallas, then we'd build into her contract a helicopter rental and I'd fly her.
	Uh-huh.
	You know, they pay per diem and all that, and you get, like, travel money.
	It's real professional.
	Fine.
	You can move into Dallas.
	You'll like it there.
	It's a great town.
	It's livelier.
	Actually, it's got a lot of stuff going on.
	I don't want that.
	I want to just chill here, you know, watch C-SPAN, you know.
	The argument's over.
	You can say what you want.
	Everyone's heard my point of view.
	All right.
	You put it in the book.
	It's in the book right now.
	It says, move to Dallas.
	Okay.
	I don't know what it means.
	One day you'll be like, John will wake up going, I have to go to Dallas.
	I don't know why.
	Why?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I must go.
	So some of the drug commercials, we haven't been playing them a lot recently, but they've gotten a lot more aggressive.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, they've got...
	The Cymbalta is the one we've been following.
	I think we've done two or three iterations of their commercials.
	But this one was just a jaw-dropper to me because it was essentially...
	This is what they're using to...
	Sucker the people into buying some of these drugs.
	In this case, Cymbalta.
	It's like, now it's like a personal, it's more of a, you're a winner!
	You've got to do this!
	It's like a pep talk of orientation.
	It's kind of like a, you know, one of these speakers, these, not inspirational, but those kind of speakers that come out and then they get you all worked up about stuff.
	I've never really heard anything like that.
	Yeah, like for Herbalife, when you're going to go sell Amway.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Well, this is kind of one of these kinds of things.
	What does Cymbalta do again?
	Cymbalta is some sort of weird...
	Is it for your penis?
	It's like a pain reliever that will kill you, essentially.
	Hold on.
	It's important.
	I think we should know what it does before we listen to the commercial.
	Cymbalta.com.
	Okay, that should be it.
	Depression.
	It's an antidepressant.
	I thought it was for pain.
	It sounds like it's for pain from this commercial.
	Well, let's see what it says.
	Symbalta is indicated for the treatment of major depressive disorder, MDD. The efficacy of Symbalta was established in four short...
	Hang on a second.
	Maybe it's not Symbalta that this ad's for.
	I just put it on the clip name.
	Well, you just...
	Thank God you're not my medical provider.
	Yeah, no kidding.
	Take a little of this symbol.
	It's good.
	Now I want to listen to the commercial.
	Let's hear it.
	This day calls you.
	To fight chronic osteoarthritis pain.
	To fight chronic low back pain.
	To take action.
	To take the next step.
	Today you will know you did something for your pain.
	Cymbalta can help.
	You're right!
	And Cymbalta is a magical drug because I was looking at the website and it just shifted.
	And it just says it's also for chronic low back pain.
	So it's like a floor wax and a dessert topping.
	Okay, I know what this mechanism is.
	This is the same mechanism that Valium has, which is Valium is used as a muscle relaxant and as an antidepressant.
	So this apparently is the next level.
	So I didn't make a mistake, so you wouldn't get the wrong prescription.
	No, you're right.
	You gotta play the beginning again.
	Yeah, I'm going to.
	What, are you kidding me?
	What kind of a pitch is this?
	You gotta fight, fight, fight, my friend.
	So Valium is kind of like, it's for sex parties and for the hangover.
	So you can take it all the time.
	Oh yeah, you can just take that stuff constantly.
	Cymbalta is like, my back hurts and I'm depressed about it.
	It's fantastic.
	Alright, you're a winner!
	This day calls you to fight chronic osteoarthritis pain, to fight chronic low back pain, to take action, to take the next step.
	Today you will know you did something for your pain.
	Cymbalta can help.
	Cymbalta is a pain reliever FDA approved to manage chronic musculoskeletal pain.
	One non-narcotic pill a day, every day, can help reduce this pain.
	Tell your doctor right away if your mood worsens, you have unusual changes in mood or behavior or thoughts of suicide.
	Antidepressants can increase these in children, teens, and young adults.
	Cymbalta is not for children under 18.
	People taking MAOIs, Linazolid, or Thiaritazine or with uncontrolled glaucoma should not take Cymbalta.
	Taking it with NSAID pain relievers, aspirin, or blood thinners may increase bleeding risk.
	Severe liver problems, some fatal, were reported.
	Signs include abdominal pain and yellowing skin or eyes.
	Tell your doctor about all your medicines, including those for migraine.
	And while on Cymbalta, call right away if you have high fever, confusion, and stiff muscles or serious allergic skin reactions like blisters, peeling rash, hives, or mouth sores to address possible life-threatening conditions.
	Talk about your alcohol use, liver disease, and before you reduce or stop Cymbalta, dizziness or fainting may occur upon standing.
	Take the next step.
	Talk to your doctor.
	Cymbalta can help.
	You can do it, bitch.
	Yeah, that is a very aggressive stance, I think.
	Take action.
	Take action now.
	No, you did something.
	I could have done this voiceover, yet do I get an audition for that?
	No.
	I mean, listen.
	You've got to take action now.
	Do you have...
	You can do it.
	You're a winner.
	Back pain.
	Low chronic back pain.
	Take action today.
	You can do it.
	You will win.
	If you wake up with the blues, trying to fill your day with news, there's one thing you must remember, no agenda in the morning.
	For a healthy, balanced news diet, try NoAgendaShow.com.
	Living the mac and cheese life.
	Mac and Cheese by Ayn Rand.
	What?
	By Ayn Rand.
	All right.
	I think you nailed it.
	How awesome is that new jingle?
	That's good.
	Living the mac and cheese life.
	Mac and cheese.
	By Ayn Rand.
	And it's two different guys, by the way.
	Yeah, it's funny, though, because it works perfectly.
	So one of our producers said, whenever I hear that mac and cheese jingle, I always think, by Ayn Rand.
	I'm like, wow, that's a good one.
	And I put it together.
	I'm like, this is awesome.
	And Mickey was angry.
	He's like, that's an insult to Ayn Rand!
	Oh God, is she a true believer?
	I didn't know that.
	Yes, you did.
	I'd never read the book until she gave it to me.
	You didn't know that, did you?
	No, I did not know that.
	She's not an objectivist or anything like that, but she totally...
	Oh, it sounds like to me when she goes offended by the mac and cheese by animals.
	And before we take a little break here, I would like to...
	One of our producers forwarded this.
	It was a blatant package, one of these junket packages where the actor, in this case director and actor, is interviewed by either several or one, and then they syndicate the interview without the person on camera.
	And so you can pretend it was your interview.
	We went, we interviewed Ben Affleck!
	And you didn't.
	It was just you took out the original interviewer's questions, and it's just an ISO shot of the actor, in this case, actor-director.
	And one of our thesi is, of course, that not only is this a whole bogative movie about the CIA and the State Department, and it was set up to coincide with the kidnapping of Ambassador Stevens, which went horribly wrong and got killed and all that's all messed up.
	But, you know, the whole thing was commissioned through Clooney, and Clooney, of course, is a known CIA asset.
	His handler is, what's the guy's name again?
	Yeah, that guy.
	With the long hair.
	Yeah, that guy.
	He's always got a handler, and I think Clooney's dad probably was in the intelligence service.
	And we even know from Operation Mockingbird and the church investigation that this has been going on in the media, and certainly it's shifted towards Hollywood and the movies over the past couple of decades.
	Well, actually, if we bring up some of my clips later, there's a good reason for that happening.
	Because the press is just completely compromised in such a way that nobody pays any attention to them anymore.
	And people are more likely to pay attention to what George Clooney says than what any observer, any media pundit would say.
	But unfortunately, Kim Jong-un chose the wrong celebrity.
	He chose Dennis Rodman, which is so easy to ridicule.
	You know, because he looks weird and he says funky things.
	You know, you've got people, influencers of the world, elites, choose your celebrities wisely.
	You want Angelina Jolie, which is what happens.
	If they're all compromised, who are you going to find that's not compromised?
	Oh, well, hello.
	It's very simple.
	Hello.
	All you have to do is make a new movie, put enough marketing into it, make the star a star, and then you MKUltra their ass and you've got them.
	I'm amazed that these Twilight kids haven't shown up.
	Maybe they're just being molded and they're the next wave or something.
	I think they're good.
	Well, they're on drugs.
	They're all wasted, so they're just not useful yet.
	But this is the system.
	And so the question, of course, comes up.
	And it's said jokingly, and the answer comes back jokingly about, oh, so everyone in Hollywood must be a spy.
	Are there many actors in Hollywood who also moonlight as agents, do you think?
	I think there are probably quite a few, yes.
	I think probably Hollywood is full of CIA agents, and we just don't know it.
	And I wouldn't be surprised at all to discover that this is extremely common.
	Yeah, and so that last part that he said...
	First of all, I don't think he's joking at all.
	I think this is a typical case of someone calling you on your BS. And so Hollywood's basically filled with people who are compromised and run by the CIA. And he's trying to make a joke out of it.
	But I wouldn't really be surprised.
	And then, of course, the obvious question.
	Are you a CIA? I am, yes.
	And now you've blown my cover.
	So there goes my career.
	I just hope the directing thing better work out.
	Ah, well, don't worry.
	That is your career, my friend.
	It is your career.
	It is funny because, you know, we determined on the No Agenda show that the reason he wasn't nominated for director...
	Yeah, it's because Hollywood was pissed off that he got all this kudos for this movie.
	Right.
	And it was paid for by the CIA. Which was paid for by the government, which was shown in the credits, obviously, where it was coming from.
	Hillary Clinton.
	Yeah.
	So we had, so he gets no credit for being a director because the director's guild or whoever was probably, you know, sandbagging him saying this is bullshit.
	And so then he comes out and he's not a liar.
	No!
	You know, people always say that, you know, the one thing you always remember, people always say that it's not possible for anyone to really lie.
	They can, they, it comes out one way or the other.
	So why even bother, even trying?
	Just say, yeah, I'm a CIA agent.
	How are we going to believe that?
	No, if I say it was, that's right.
	Yeah, yeah, but clearly, yeah, well, just pay attention to what's going on, people.
	You'll see it.
	That's why Clooney's always looking down and all embarrassed.
	Yeah, Clooney doesn't like what he's up to.
	No, and he has conscience, but I think he's like...
	Damn, man.
	I got the place in Cuomo.
	I got the lake house.
	I got the babes.
	No one questions my homosexuality.
	Right.
	If you want to see...
	But he does take a little swipe now and again.
	But most of those movies are suppressed.
	But if you want to see a good movie...
	There's actually a couple of them he's done.
	And they're always the art pieces.
	The American is a good movie.
	It's about an assassin.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Very good movie.
	Siriana.
	Yes.
	And men who speak to goats.
	Stare at goats.
	Right.
	Siriana, men who speak to goats, and then that one that he wants.
	Men and the goats who look scared next to them.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And then the other one is the one that Swinton won the Academy Award for, which I think is just...
	I've watched that.
	It's one of those few movies I'll actually watch if it's on.
	What was that?
	Oh, let me see.
	Clooney...
	Is it on Tuesdays on CBS at 9, 8 Central?
	Filmography.
	No.
	It might be.
	Let's see what it's filmography.
	I like The Men Who Stared Goats.
	That was a pretty good movie.
	It was weird.
	He does a lot of films.
	I mean, this guy's just...
	And there was droning in that, too.
	That was kind of cool.
	That was the first kind of droning movie.
	Up in the Air was actually a good film, but it wasn't a political movie.
	It was just about pathetic guys.
	Michael Clayton.
	That's the name of the movie?
	Yeah.
	Michael Clayton is one of the...
	It's just a great, great film.
	It's about a fixer.
	In a big law firm.
	And it is riveting.
	And it's got all kinds of creepy stuff going on.
	If you haven't seen Michael Clayton, you have to watch it.
	Just rent it, get it on Netflix, whatever.
	Sounds like a very good No Agenda Movie tip.
	Yes, that's our No Agenda Movie tip of the day.
	And leading into that, you know, we've had a number of times where challenge coins have come up, and people have sold them, and there's a number of No Agenda challenge coins out there.
	Can you still get them on noagendanation.com, or is that...
	I think he's pretty much out.
	Okay.
	The last ones were the Inca.
	Right.
	The Mayan coins.
	And I think Eric's going on now.
	He's doing a...
	The Mayan coins are great.
	He's doing a constitution thing with a handmade...
	He's doing a constitution actually printed on real parchment.
	It's very expensive.
	Well, it's not that expensive.
	No, it's like 200 bucks, but it's handmade.
	Yeah, that's for the regular ones, but the one that's going to be the really collectible one.
	Hey, way to help the guy out with some sales.
	It's really expensive.
	It is.
	But he makes them by hand in the shack out there in the back.
	Well, the one expensive one.
	Well, you haven't given him the 802.11ac access.
	No, he just gets the N. The expensive one, which I think is, I don't know what it is, but that is actually going to be a collectible.
	Oh yeah, he's only going to make a couple hundred of them, right?
	Yeah.
	The reason I brought this up is because there's a law, a bill has been introduced.
	Because I guess this, once we started doing challenge coins, like everyone just really got into challenge coin business.
	And now there's HR 1218, to prohibit the payment of surcharges for commemorative coin programs to private organizations or entities.
	What does that even mean?
	Because people are making challenge coins and selling them for like a hundred bucks.
	So what?
	Yeah, but in government.
	The government is buying up the challenge coins instead of a challenge coin, whatever a challenge coin is worth.
	They're paying like a hundred bucks and then that money is whitewashing essentially.
	They're whitewashing through challenge coins.
	So the...
	I've got a couple of challenges.
	Somebody sent us something in December.
	I don't have his name in front of me.
	But he said, did you ever get it?
	It was a couple of challenge coins, which I have, and some pistachios and some DVDs.
	I realized now that I did get them.
	I got all this stuff because I was going through my drawer of challenge coins along next to the ink drawer.
	And...
	There were two of these F-35 Strike Force challenge coins.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah, you got one with your name.
	Nice.
	Thank you.
	It's a beauty.
	There's another movie tip.
	Where the hell?
	Oh, Mickey already took it.
	Sergeant Fred gave us the movie about Viva Cristo Rey.
	It's like the Mexican...
	We haven't watched it yet.
	But I'm going to review this movie.
	He says it's like the original Hit Him in the Mouth movie.
	It's got Peter O'Toole's in there.
	He's been talking about it for a long time.
	He finally went out and just bought us the DVD. He's like, here, you have to watch it.
	So I'll have a review of that next week.
	Okay, well I have a New York Times report then.
	Oh, hold on one second.
	Where are we?
	Okay, here we go.
	John's gonna hum the Sunday Times Today's Sunday Times was one pound, 5.4 ounces, down 6.1 ounces from last Sunday.
	John's gonna harm the Sunday Times.
	I'm gonna show myself all by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, I'll know what you want in the morning.
	So we had little Harper didn't get his call out for his birthday last show.
	And apparently little Harper, amongst the other children that listen to our show for some unknown reason, maybe from the Bells, was apparently very disappointed.
	And what exactly is it that Little Harper likes so much?
	Which jingles are the ones?
	I don't know.
	I think it's the...
	Shut up, slave!
	I think that's a good one for them to be talking to.
	I think all kids should just be saying, hey mom, hey mom.
	Shut up, slave.
	Also, the mofo thing is a good one.
	We might as well encourage that.
	Oh, right.
	Hold on a second.
	Kids seem to like that.
	Yeah, okay.
	Alright, kids.
	Adios, mofo.
	That's right.
	Kids love that.
	So use that, kids.
	And when you get the chance, have your mommy and daddy write out an envelope to No Agenda Show, Box 339, El Cerrito, California, 94530, and have them put a check in it.
	Or just take the money from their purse and wallets and put it in there yourself and send it to us.
	Hey, all kids, I'm going to screw up every single kid who's ever listened to this show.
	So when you grow up, when you're 18, this will surface in your brain.
	Living the mac and cheese life.
	Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand.
	They're going to be so messed up, John.
	So Mark Fusco is our first name to be mentioned as our producer for show of 497.
	Six.
	Six.
	I just look up on the thing.
	Okay, okay.
	Is this something about Buzzkill Jr.
	that he's like, is he adamant on telling us that we're idiots, that it's actually 497 when it's not?
	Or does he not listen to the show?
	You know what?
	He stopped listening to the show.
	Okay, that's fine.
	That's because he's not here.
	He's at his boot camp.
	Oh.
	So I can't yell at him then.
	No, this Leet, you won't be able to for another few weeks.
	This Leet donation completes my knighthood if it shows up in time for Sunday cool.
	If not, that's cool too.
	I'd like to apply to be your sommelier knight wherein I shall serve foie gras and sauterne to the round table.
	Ah, okay.
	Well, I think we can add that.
	Hold on a second.
	Tell me.
	I'll do that right now.
	Yeah.
	He wants to be sommelier knight.
	Jeez Louise.
	Okay, I'm putting it in.
	Okay, it's fine with me.
	If he knows a good Sauterni, I'm all for it.
	I didn't know he did, but Dwayne Biblo in Calgary, Alberta, 12345.
	Patrick Turner in Austin, Texas.
	Hey now!
	111, he's right there.
	There he comes.
	He's coming at the door.
	Hey, where's your pass?
	Ulrich Hansen in Copenhagen is going to be a night today at $110.33.
	Hey, isn't that Ulrich who sent me the brown cheese?
	I don't know.
	I think so.
	Brown cheese.
	I ain't got no brown cheese.
	No brown cheese for me.
	Well, you can have Miss Mickey's half because she's not liking the brown cheese.
	I've had that cheese before.
	I love that cheese.
	I'm going to have some right after the show.
	It's actually, it gets really, to me, it gets old fast.
	Oh.
	John McKenney in Happy Valley.
	Happy Valley, Oregon.
	101.
	Happy Valley.
	He's the one who gave us the Feinstein Mr.
	Drone clip.
	Oh, good one.
	Sir Oscar Nadal in Tijuana, 101-01.
	Jay Zucal in Los Angeles.
	Hey, hold on a second.
	Do we have...
	He said a birthday call out for me on the 10th.
	Oh, okay.
	So we don't have to do that.
	That'll be...
	Did he put it in for the 10th?
	I mean, he's either really late or really early.
	I don't know.
	Just give him the birthday call out and we'll worry about it later.
	Okay, because I'm just checking it's not on the list.
	I think it's late.
	I don't know.
	It's on the list.
	I got a big birthday cake here.
	Look, I'm okay.
	No, he's not on the list.
	Well, he's got the cake on the spreadsheet.
	Oh, yeah, he's on the list.
	You're right.
	Sorry, I'm an idiot.
	Jay Zucal in Los Angeles, $100.
	I think this may be a repeat, but anyway.
	Anonymous in Clinton, Twerp, Michigan.
	Is that what it is?
	Clinton's a Twerp?
	What is that?
	How about Clinton Township?
	I'll just take a stab.
	Oh, could be.
	Charles Kohler in Forestville, Australia.
	Tristan McCann in South Berwick.
	These are all $100 donations.
	Maine.
	James Spitzer in Jamaica Plain, Massachusetts.
	$100.
	Michael Bowling in Santa Barbara.
	$100.
	Simon Marciniak in...
	Somewhere.
	Poland.
	Poland.
	Yeah, Michael Polsky's got to be in Poland.
	That's the name of the area.
	Did you check the...
	I forwarded you a message from someone who said there's some settings in PayPal that you can set, like the UTF double-biting coded blah-blah crap?
	Yeah.
	And guess how'd that work out?
	I didn't do it.
	I'll do it later.
	Just a thought.
	Well, this only one that came up is him.
	He's in Lurik or something.
	Capital Idea Radio.
	Capital Idea, I say, in Cincinnati, Ohio, 8334.
	These are repeats, dude.
	That one's a repeat.
	What is going on here?
	I mean, we're repeating.
	I'm telling you.
	Which means we made no money is what this means.
	Are you trying to fool me?
	Are you trying to make me feel good?
	Michael Wagner in Aston, Pennsylvania, 77-77.
	Frank Pugh in Tallahassee, Florida, 75.
	There's about 10 in here that are wrong.
	John Hamlin in Raleigh, North Carolina, 70-07.
	That's nice.
	I like that.
	It looks pretty, that number, doesn't it?
	That's a great-looking number.
	No.
	No.
	Huh.
	Tyler Fox Flagstaff, 70.
	Um...
	Oh, here we go.
	69-69.
	Oh.
	Hello?
	Yeah, hello.
	Hello.
	I was too busy bitching at you.
	69-69, dude!
	I'm busy here.
	I'm busy bitching at you.
	All right.
	Wiltshire, UK. Sir...
	Whoops.
	Sir Brian Barrow.
	Marco Strauss, Ithaca, New York.
	Thomas Nussbaum in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
	These are all doubles.
	I'm telling you, this is last week's spreadsheet, dude.
	Here, Dame Tanya.
	I've seen this sheet.
	I don't remember the 70-07.
	You would have said something then, too.
	No.
	I don't remember a 70-07.
	Well, whatever the case is, we're going to thank these people.
	Yeah, but thank you.
	They get double thanks.
	Yeah, they get double thanks.
	The only people who get gypped are us.
	So Scott Sandstead, I'm telling you, I follow these numbers and how much I put in a bank and everything else, and these are not, there's a number of dupes in here, but it doesn't amount to that much.
	Scott Sandstead in Orangevale, California.
	Richard Chow, Parts Unknown.
	Tanya Wayman, Dame Tanya, New York.
	This may be a rerun.
	Thomas, although she gives a lot.
	Thomas Lees in London.
	And that's the end of the 69-69, which is kind of short.
	The funny thing is, it's not a repeat of last week.
	It's a repeat of the week before that.
	That's what's crazy.
	That's what's driving me nuts, is that this is not from Thursday.
	This is from a Sunday ago.
	Could be.
	It's funny.
	I mean, I'm just pointing it out.
	I mean, I just don't understand it, that's all.
	I don't understand how it works.
	Well, huh.
	Well, if anybody didn't get a mention...
	Here's Simon McNarksny from Poland.
	His donation is a double.
	I'm looking at $4.95 right now.
	There may be a mistake here that may be my doing, now that I think about it.
	What did you do?
	Well, it's a long story.
	I don't want to go on and talk about it.
	I'm telling you, this is very...
	No, no, no.
	This has to be legit.
	You're opening up the spreadsheet for $4.95.
	I'm looking at $4.95.
	And they're all the same.
	Not all the same, no.
	Well, that doesn't make any sense.
	I'm telling you, it's got to be a PayPal thing.
	No, no, I'm believing it's a PayPal thing.
	But that's rather concerning.
	No, I agree that there's a bunch.
	Well, PayPal's pretty good at straightening these things out.
	Yeah, but when you're doing the best podcast in the universe, you want to make sure you've got the birthdays right.
	Well, we do have the birthdays right, I believe.
	Okay.
	Well, as long as we're not screwing over our producers.
	Maybe not, because we have that birthday from the 10th.
	Did we do it then?
	I don't know.
	We'll worry about it later.
	I think that was 2000...
	Let's get the show going.
	It was 2010, that birthday.
	Robert Gold, John Groomling, Stephen J. Nelson in Wheat Ridge, Kevin Ayers in Broomfield, Colorado.
	Also, Robert Cain in Columbiana, which does sound familiar, and he's a 73-4...
	Yes, I've seen this one, too.
	The N4 IXT. I have, too.
	Eric Schmidt in Liebzig, I believe, is a...
	Oh, he donated...
	Katie McGernan in Roanoke.
	I don't remember that one.
	And she's wishing a birthday for the 13th.
	Some house buying karma.
	Oh, well let me give her a little house buying karma.
	Which I think...
	You've got...
	It doesn't matter.
	Jason Fortman, Sir Paul Vela, Sir Philip Meason I know is new.
	Because I saw that one come in myself.
	And he's in POWs, UK. And he's...
	Yeah.
	So Katie McKernan is on the list here.
	And that was...
	We did that on the last show.
	Okay.
	So the birthdays are not correct.
	This is an incorrect birthday.
	Yeah, I don't know what happened.
	I think there's something happened on the PayPal download.
	No, I mean, I told you, Sir Gitmo Slave told me that PayPal has had all kinds of crap going on.
	And I think even Sir Oscar Nadal, well now, hold on a second, this warrants a moment of check here.
	Hmm.
	Let me just see if we do 495...
	I mean, you know, we run a business here.
	If we can't rely on PayPal, it's a problem.
	Well, this is anything that has to do with the cloud.
	The whole world is screwed.
	The cloud.
	We need to go to Bitcoin.
	This is a cloud issue.
	Let's go to Bitcoin.
	I'm telling you.
	No, we should have our own spreadsheets.
	We should have our own accounts and do everything through the Mechanics Bank.
	Well, how come we're not doing that then?
	Because, like, you talk about a lot of extra work.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	We've been doing it for five years.
	We have one glitch, and you go out and race.
	Oh, hold on, hold on.
	This is like the...
	Pipe down, pipe down.
	This is like your wife saying, well, what are you doing kissing that woman?
	I'm out of here.
	Yeah, that would happen.
	But pipe down.
	Pipe down.
	I'm not blaming you.
	I'm not angry.
	Oh, shit.
	What happened here?
	I'm not angry.
	No, something went away.
	I'm trying to open up some information.
	I'm just trying to track down the source of our source here.
	Yeah, well, my concern is that there's people that did give this week and wanted a birthday call.
	That's my concern.
	Like Harper.
	That's my concern.
	Who got screwed last time.
	That's all I'm concerned about.
	It's like, you know, I'm okay.
	We'll work everything.
	Here, birthdays.
	Here, Simon Bennett, Sir Oscar Nadal, Katie McCurran.
	That's last week's birthdays.
	That's the last show.
	So what do we have now?
	We have Harper.
	Hold on a second.
	What about the new knight?
	Was that last week?
	Hold on.
	Who was a knight last week?
	Fusco was knighted.
	Yeah, Fusco and Uruk Hansen.
	We already knighted them.
	This is a bad expression.
	Everyone who donated to this show, which apparently was show 4964, just got a double call out.
	Right, but I'm not going to re-knight.
	No, you're not re-kniting anybody.
	But we also have no birthdays.
	We have no...
	You have Harper.
	Now I'm confused.
	Hold on a second.
	Hold on.
	Let me check something.
	Now I'm maybe...
	Oh, my God.
	This is a train wreck.
	Shorten the segment, and now it's longer.
	This is a train wreck of a segment.
	Hold on.
	I was just looking at something wrong here.
	Now I'm really confused.
	Okay, here we go.
	This is 495.
	I do have some records.
	Okay, birthdays.
	Who do we have on the birthdays?
	We had...
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	No, I'm incorrect, John.
	These are new nights.
	Fusco wasn't nighted last show?
	I don't think so.
	Maybe he was just talking about getting knighted.
	Yeah, it doesn't matter.
	We'll fix all of this.
	Okay, now I got an interesting thing.
	I got a note, a nasty note from Ashley, our Ashley Organics woman, the fisher.
	Yeah.
	She says, you unsubscribed me.
	The No Agenda News wannabe secretary.
	I am hurt, John.
	Thursday my donation will come.
	Hopefully it will be on the spreadsheet.
	Yeah.
	Thank you for the...
	There was the next show.
	Thank you for the awesome show.
	Have a wonderful Sunday.
	You unsubscribed her to...
	No, to what?
	The newsletter?
	Oh, she didn't get it.
	Ashley, check your spam box.
	In fact, the two places that do this, that new outlook.com, everything goes to spam.
	And apparently there's some other mailer that everything goes to spam.
	There was a bunch of commentary in the Google Plus forum, No Agenda forum, moaning and groaning that Google is sending our newsletter into spam.
	Oh, yeah.
	Gmail, yeah.
	Correct.
	Yeah, Gmail, which is the worst.
	Can I just make a recommendation?
	Let's have a quick meeting here and then we'll be done with it.
	So first of all, we just need to figure out where something went wrong.
	And that's, you know, on PayPal, there's some iffy stuff there.
	May I make a recommendation?
	And this is the only meeting we're going to have.
	Can I recommend that we perhaps look at hiring someone else?
	Because I think Buzzkill Jr.
	is busy with other things, and he's got his life going, and we need someone who's going to troubleshoot this on our behalf, and we have a little budget to do that.
	I think we should just consider it.
	I mean, I like keeping things in the family, but you can't fire your son.
	This kind of sucks.
	Oh, yeah, it can.
	Yeah.
	In fact, that's what you're asking me to do right now.
	No, I'm asking you to let him go on hiatus.
	Yeah, you're telling me to fire him.
	You say, I can't fire my son, but you're denying that I can by just telling me to do it.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	The point is that if this is a PayPal thing, I don't know what he's going to do about it.
	But he's done a better job, I think, than anyone so far.
	And if you want to turn over to a third party to do, I'll spend whatever it takes, but I think it's a nightmare.
	As we know, I produce, I do the MP3s, I deal with all the crap when the show doesn't work, etc.
	And by the way, when something doesn't work, here's the message I get from you.
	Show doesn't work, fix it!
	Dude, that's bullcrap.
	That's how the email comes across.
	Bullcrap.
	That's how the emails come across.
	I don't care.
	It's bullcrap.
	And besides that, I never say anything.
	I just forward somebody bitching to me.
	Okay.
	And so you've never ever, in all caps, like...
	Oh, yeah.
	Two years ago.
	Three years ago.
	Oh, and how come you stopped doing that?
	You don't do that anymore.
	You're just nice now.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You know what?
	First of all, I don't take what you just said and forward it to me.
	I like the fact that you're straightforward.
	This is what I like about you.
	You don't say, hey, man, I'm thinking like, well, you know, you say, hey, it sucks.
	Get the thing working again.
	And it's taken me several years to understand, but now I accept it.
	Well, that's why I don't do it anymore.
	Because you can't rile me anymore.
	Because there's no effect.
	You don't get the desired effect of me getting all angry and upset.
	That's why you stopped doing it.
	Probably.
	Okay.
	Well, anyway, I like the direct communication, so I'm saying, you know, I don't care what you do, but we've had some spreadsheet issues in the past couple of weeks.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, I don't know.
	We had a lot.
	We had Miss Harper.
	It matters!
	But this thing here doesn't look like anything that anyone could figure out.
	This is just too weird.
	This has been happening for a while, these doubles.
	It's been happening for a while.
	Stuff is going on, and I think it's a cut-and-paste spreadsheet issue.
	No, I'll tell you why that's not the case.
	It can't possibly be, because I know exactly how I download these things, and let me explain.
	I download...
	No, I download from date-specific to date-specific, and then I never use that same date, even if I miss a few hours.
	How come you're doing this work?
	I'm doing the download because it's our bank account, and I'm not giving out all the passwords to everybody in the world and letting it go floating around.
	He could download, but he won't be...
	I am specifically downloading...
	And then I give it to him, and he does all the rest of it.
	So there's no way that you can have duplication like this.
	I'm just trying to help you.
	Based on the thing, unless it's in the PayPal documents.
	Can we just agree on one thing?
	You do nothing wrong, you're awesome, it's never your fault.
	Let's just agree on that.
	Okay, let me write that down.
	We'll use that as a premise.
	Dvorak.org.
	Slash N.A.
	It's your birthday.
	It's your birthday again.
	I'm so glad you're here.
	Simon Bennett congratulates himself.
	He celebrated on the 11th.
	Sir Oscar Nadal celebrated on the 10th.
	I can't believe that we didn't congratulate them on the previous show.
	But there you go.
	And Katie McKernan says happy birthday to her husband, her lovely hubby, who turned 45 again on the 13th.
	And, of course, we already said hi to Little Harper, the new human resource, who turned five on Tuesday.
	Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.
	It's your birthday, yeah.
	And, uh...
	Ha, ha, ha, ha.
	And, okay, so who were we knighting that, hold on a second here, we were knighting who was going to be the sommelier, but he wasn't a knight yet, right?
	Yeah, I don't remember a sommelier knight.
	No, but I think he wanted to be a sommelier.
	Yeah, I know.
	That's what he says.
	Okay.
	But we're not there yet, are we?
	Yeah, he's a knight.
	He's a knight?
	And who is that?
	Oh, you've got to open one thing after another.
	Where's our foie gras guy?
	I just want to make sure I do it right.
	I don't want to mess it up.
	Yeah, I'm looking, I'm looking.
	I have Mark Fusco.
	Mark Fusco.
	He wants to be the...
	Oh, yeah, Fusco wants to be the...
	Fusco.
	Okay.
	All right, Fusco.
	All right, all right.
	Let me see if I can get this going, then.
	I just need your sword.
	Did you bring that?
	Yes, you've got that one.
	I've got mine.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Mark Fusco, Ulrich Hansen, Step 4, gentlemen, both of you have supported the No Agenda podcast in the amount of $1,000 or more, and we highly appreciate that support.
	It's exactly what we need, and we need more knights to protect the nation and the fair damsels.
	And, of course, we need some dames to protect the stupid knights who are always dumb.
	So hereby, I pronounce the Sir Mark Fusco Fusco...
	Our sommelier night, and Uruk Hansen, I think night of the brown cheese.
	Gentlemen, please join our roundtable for all of your goodies.
	Hookers and blow, remports, chardonnay, hot pants and booze, wenches and beer, foie gras and sauternes, geishas and sake, vodka and vanilla bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, mutton and meat, and for the younger nights, breast milk and pablum.
	And thank you very much.
	And as you promised, John, did you put the new levels on the donation page?
	I said by Thursday.
	Oh, okay.
	That's exactly what I said, if you remember.
	No, I just asked.
	Yeah.
	I just asked.
	Thursday, we'll have it for anyone who wants it.
	For anyone who wants it, there's tons of knights out there who want to go to the next level.
	But I don't know what the next level is.
	Well...
	Have you thought of it?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, uh-huh.
	I'm just really irked about this.
	Hold on a second.
	Hold on a second.
	Hey, if someone's complaining about the sword sounds, just make sure that that was a valid nighting.
	There were most definitely multiple sword hits.
	Yeah, there was a valid double hit there.
	Yeah, well, I might have drowned a little bit in the processing, so I want to make sure that it was out there.
	Hey, John!
	My goodness, my goodness.
	Has the President of the United States, is it possible that he has gone insane?
	Bonkers?
	Totally bonkers?
	Well, I mean, it makes logical sense because you have to assume somebody, you know, essentially was a street walker.
	Community organizer.
	Streetwalker?
	Well, you walk around on the street a lot.
	Isn't that what that means?
	Yeah.
	So I watch his little show, and I'm like, oh my god, this is a whole...
	And I got an email from him, and there's all this stuff.
	What, he got an email?
	Yeah, there's a whole campaign.
	He wants to invite you to the White House.
	No, I wish.
	Now, listen.
	Heil everybody.
	Heil everybody.
	That's how he always starts with his little Heil everybody.
	And he's not at home.
	He's not at home, which I find crazy because he stopped the tours.
	You know, he's nice and quiet, but he likes to be out on the road.
	And he's heiling everybody from Chicago.
	As a nation, our top priority is growing our economy and creating good middle-class jobs.
	Is this our priority as a nation?
	What do you think our priority as a nation should be?
	I mean, it might be right.
	Growing our economy and creating good middle-class jobs for the slaves?
	Is that our top priority?
	I thought the priority was to uphold the Constitution.
	Well, that's his priority, but now he's telling us what our priority is.
	Our priority is to live the American dream.
	Yeah, bang actresses.
	I've got a ton of priorities, but creating a ton of middle-class jobs is not my priority, but okay.
	That's why this week I'm speaking to you from the Argonne National Laboratory in Illinois.
	Oh, have you looked this thing up?
	It's very similar to Argonne.
	The laboratory.
	Yeah, they have a billion-dollar budget.
	It's a government-funded thing.
	Yeah, it's one of the places I believe works on fusion.
	Well, no, they work on battery cars, apparently.
	Because few areas hold as much promise as what they're focused on right here.
	Harnessing American energy.
	Harnessing American energy.
	You had a fusion research, as far as I knew.
	Batteries.
	I could be wrong.
	You see, after years of talking about it, we're finally poised to take control of our energy future.
	We produce more oil than we have in 15 years.
	We import less oil than we have in 20 years.
	We've doubled the amount of renewable energy we generate from sources like wind and solar, with tens of thousands of good jobs to show for it.
	Ooh, wow!
	So, what happened?
	He's not mentioning all the companies that went bankrupt, that got all that bailout money, or I'm sorry, the stimulus money.
	We're producing more natural gas than ever before, with hundreds of thousands of good jobs to show for it.
	We've supported the first new nuclear power plant since the 1970s.
	And we're sending less carbon pollution into the environment than we have in nearly 20 years.
	It's because we're broke and we can't afford the gas, dude.
	Here's where it comes.
	I found this to be very peculiar what he's about to say here.
	We're making real progress.
	But over the past few weeks, we've got a reminder that we have more work to do.
	We went through another spike in gas prices, just like last year and the year before that.
	It happens every year.
	What is that about?
	I thought that to me is like my head just spun around.
	Spikes in gas happen every year.
	Why?
	No, you're right.
	This is a new meme.
	I mean, he's like, it happens every year, so you're stupid slaves.
	It doesn't happen every year.
	I mean, it does happen.
	I mean, there's seasonal gas fluctuations, generally speaking, but spikes in gas happen every year.
	Every year.
	And we're stupid.
	We're stupid if we stick with this program.
	That's what he's saying.
	It's a serious blow to your budget.
	By getting hit with a new tax coming right out of your pocket.
	So, well, what?
	Over the past four years, as part of our all-of-the-above energy strategy, we've taken steps to soften that blow by making sure our cars use less gas.
	Okay.
	Now, you've done some study on this.
	What are the actual...
	So, there's...
	What is the actual mile-per-gallon that these great vehicles are getting that we can't afford, by the way?
	Well, it looks like...
	Whatever the EPA number is, you deduct from 5 to 10 miles per gallon to get the real number.
	So, like, the best cars...
	I've driven a couple of Fords long distances that have supposedly 47 miles per gallon.
	They get 37 under...
	But the thing is, if they're hybrids, they get 37 no matter what you do.
	You go up a hill, it gets 37.
	You go down a hill, it gets 37.
	You go into the city, it gets 37.
	You drive on the highway at 60 miles an hour for 10 hours, it gets 37, which is good.
	That's ridiculously good gas mileage.
	But how much more – It's bogus.
	They've created a false...
	I haven't been able to figure out what's going on because I haven't driven enough of these cars, but these numbers, the EPA numbers that are calculated some way, which are used by the manufacturers, are completely bogus, and the manufacturers know it.
	Well, but it's even worse.
	They're also expensive.
	You're paying a lot of extra money for the hybrid nature of these cars.
	Well, just listen in a few more seconds, and I want to go to his little speech there at the Argonne Labs.
	We've put in place the toughest fuel economy standards in our history, so that by the middle of the next decade, our cars will go twice as far on a gallon of gas.
	But the gas will be twice as expensive, so you'll be in the same hole, and we've got the spike every year.
	Over the life of a new car, the average family will save more than $8,000 at the pump.
	No.
	No?
	No, because what you said is exactly right.
	Yeah.
	The only way we're going to break this cycle of spiking gas prices for good is to shift our cars and trucks off of oil for good.
	They're going to run on water!
	That's why in my State of the Union address, I called on Congress to set up an Energy Security Trust.
	So, here's what's happening.
	So, I got this email about the Energy Security Trust.
	And this is clearly, you know, whatever they've decided, I guess they have to sidetrack the president right now.
	Everyone's in place.
	We got Brennan running the drones.
	We got Hagel doing whatever they tell him to do.
	Remove the crap from Russia.
	Put it over here.
	Put some, you know, North Korea's scary.
	So they've got to put this guy on his legacy tour.
	That's what this is about.
	And his legacy is going to be this energy security trust.
	And I looked at the numbers, and it's the biggest pile of horse crap I've ever seen.
	Over a 10-year period, they want to tax energy companies by taking away the breaks they get, which is a lie because it is a rule.
	Anything produced in America, such as American oil and gas, but also movies and software, you get a special U.S. production credit.
	That's the credit they're talking about.
	We've deconstructed it many times on this show.
	They want to take some of that credit from the oil and gas companies specifically, not from the software, the movie business, and put that into the trust, and they want to build the trust up over 10 years to $2 billion.
	I'm like, why are you wasting my time or anyone's time?
	$2 billion?
	That's nothing.
	That's $200 million a year.
	That's a rounding error.
	That's terrible.
	Who gives a crap?
	This is only grandstanding for the president's legacy.
	It's not much of a legacy.
	But he's so frustrated.
	Listen to what happens when he's at this argument.
	And he's rolling out the same lines as his little hi-le-everybody speech.
	And then he tells everyone they have to clap for him.
	We've set some achievable but ambitious goals.
	So, in the middle of the next decade, we expect that you'll fill up half as often, which means you spend half as much.
	And over the life of a new car, the average family will save more than $8,000 at the pump.
	Crickets.
	That's worth applauding.
	Hey, clap for me!
	That's big news.
	Clap for me!
	That's big news.
	Clap for me!
	Wow, he must have had somebody out there that encouraged me.
	You know, it's very easy to do.
	You put about three shills in the audience and they start clapping like crazy and everyone claps.
	They got the script in one hand.
	Apparently they're getting lazy.
	I mean, listen, he's waiting for the applause, crickets, and then someone starts, but he's like, hey, hey, hey, hey, what happened to my cue?
	That's big news.
	Hold on.
	Because it says in the teleprompter, wait for, hold for applause.
	We've set some achievable but ambitious goals.
	So, in the middle of the next decade, we expect that you'll fill up half as often, which means you spend half as much.
	And over the life of a new car, the average family will save more than $8,000 at the pump.
	Cricket, cricket, cricket.
	That's worth applauding.
	Hey, hey, clap for me!
	That's big news.
	Clap for me!
	I'm awesome!
	I'm awesome!
	Clap for me!
	Clap for me!
	That's ridiculous.
	So this guy, he's doing the Legacy Tour.
	I think he's just been sidelined completely.
	They filled up all the slots they need.
	We haven't even talked about the Treasury Secretary.
	We've got the SEC shill in.
	It's all lawyers.
	It's all revolving door.
	It's completely wall-to-wall with shadow puppet theater.
	They put him out on the sideline, but they won't let him eat.
	They're starving him now.
	This is...
	Representative Susan Collins and the president came to have lunch.
	He's doing his Hands Across America tour or whatever.
	Have lunch with a Republican.
	Have lunch with a Republican day.
	But apparently he didn't have his food taster with him.
	I pointed that out to the president in keeping with the first lady's initiatives.
	And Fox family potato chips made it in Rooster County, where I'm from.
	And wild blueberry pie full of antioxidants.
	See, this was a healthy lunch as well.
	We did have a little ice cream on the pie, too.
	Also made of me, Gifford's Ice Cream.
	So, in all seriousness, this was well received.
	Unfortunately, you know, the President can't.
	He didn't get to eat anything?
	No.
	He looked longingly at it.
	He honestly did look longingly at it.
	But apparently he has to have, you know, essentially a taster.
	And I pointed out to him that we were all tasters for him.
	Did you know that?
	It's been rumored, but this is kind of proof.
	I didn't know, but he has a taster, and if the taster's not there, he can't accept any food.
	A friend of mine who's a chef in San Francisco got to cook at the White House.
	And he says it's really horrible because when you go out to shop for the vegetables, you have to have two or three secret service guys with you.
	And then they check everything that you buy and then they double check it and then they're watching the way you cook and they're just on your case and they're food tasting the stuff you bought.
	And all that kind of thing is apparently a nightmare.
	Do you think that when he was smoking that someone would have to take a few drags first and see if he got high or something?
	Yeah, it's good.
	Pass it over.
	Pass it over.
	You can have some.
	So meanwhile, we have Bill Gates being interviewed for...
	Did you know that Bill Gates is saving the world one black child at a time?
	One black child at a time?
	One black child at a time.
	It's going to take him a while.
	You know, Bill Gates is going to wake up one day and that wife that he married, she's going to be shriveled up, she's going to be a growler, and he's going to go, wow, man, I did all this dumb stuff for this?
	It's going to happen.
	You watch.
	I mean, he's a nerd.
	I understand him.
	He's nerdy.
	But hey, she'll get old and ugly, Bill, and then you're going to regret all this.
	Wait a minute.
	What would you rather have him do?
	Fix Windows 8.
	I don't know.
	Do something.
	He's great when he's in the company and he's doing things.
	But, you know, just take $2 billion, give it to the president, tell him to go play golf so he has his energy security initiative.
	Bill wishes he were a dictator.
	How do you feel President Obama is doing?
	Some days I wish we had a system like the UK, where the party in power could do a lot, and then you'd see how it went, and then fine, you can unelect them.
	Now, over time, our system has worked slightly better than theirs.
	Slightly.
	So it's ironic that right now it feels like I wish there was slightly more power in the presidency to avoid some of these deadlocks.
	What?
	So you know, I think You know, what he wants to do and what he's actually able to do, the gap is so big there that it's hard to know in some ways.
	Bill clearly didn't study politics in high school.
	Obviously, he doesn't even know how the system works.
	I mean, and he wished the president had more...
	It's set up for that specific reason.
	Yes!
	In fact, all these executive orders and these other bypasses that Obama and others have tried to pull are all illegal, and they're just not the way the system's supposed to work.
	What does he want to do that's so important that Bill says he should be a dictator?
	Well, I have a couple of ideas.
	It's all about corporatism.
	And he's big in the corporate space, and he's over there buying stuff now in Egypt.
	And they're all on the big gravy money train, and he knows how it works.
	But Melissa's running.
	Is that Melinda?
	Melissa?
	What's her name?
	I don't know.
	Growler.
	We're just going to call her Growler Gates.
	In Australia, people are rolling their eyes at that term.
	Let me read you two entries from the Federal Register.
	As bad Chad always does, he's checking the Federal Register, but he throws it into our little system there, our cartillary river system thingy.
	Thanks for the sound effect.
	Let's see.
	A $100 million loan from the export-import...
	I'm sorry, a long-term loan or financial guarantee.
	And this would be to...
	Hmm...
	Uh...
	Oh, man.
	I'm sorry.
	I just completely...
	Oh, here it is.
	Boeing.
	For the 777 aircraft, a $100 million loan from the U.S. government in order to...
	To be used for long-haul passenger service.
	These jets to be put into service for Indonesia, Europe, Asia, and the Middle East.
	And these will be exported.
	So that's the Boeing Corporation getting $100 million.
	Also in the Federal Register, General Electric receiving a $100 million loan from the U.S. government, which is pretty much interest-free.
	It's a long-term financial guarantee.
	They'll not have to pay anything back.
	And that's to support the export of general electric turbines to the United Arab Emirates.
	I mean, this is...
	I find this disturbing.
	What?
	Yeah.
	So GE, which is doing quite fine as a company, basically just got $100 million to help build turbines for export to the Arab Emirates.
	Okay.
	That's nuts.
	We don't need to be doing this.
	We've got slaves at home starving, eating mac and cheese.
	Well, this is the way they do things.
	I don't like it.
	Well, apparently John McCain does.
	Well, he has 20 houses.
	He doesn't give a crap about us.
	Anyway, I want to lead into some of your stuff, and I want to congratulate you.
	The first time I ever heard the term National Security Letter was on the show.
	It came out of your pie hole.
	And this is now a big deal, as a federal judge apparently has overturned the use of the National Security Letter.
	In this case, I guess it was used for FOIA requests.
	And the way it's traditionally been used, the national security letter, is to go snoop on someone.
	The FBI says, hey, we're going to go look in, like, okay, here's an example.
	Google, we want to look at John C. Dvorak's email and mess with his PayPal spreadsheets.
	So we're going to do that, and we're issuing this national security letter, so you can't tell anyone we're doing it.
	Or it's a felony and you'll be imprisoned.
	Imprisoned, correct.
	But it can also be issued in other ways, I believe.
	Like, hey, George Clooney, you're now a spy working for us.
	Here's your national security letter.
	If you ever say anything, you're going to prison.
	Right?
	Could be.
	Or, hey, all you people in Benghazi who were victims, you were issued, remember there was like 30 other people?
	Yeah, they all disappeared.
	Well, they didn't.
	I've had contact with some of the survivors.
	This is Lindsey Graham.
	Their story is chilling.
	They feel afraid to tell it.
	It's important they come forward to tell their story.
	The best evidence of what happened in Benghazi is not a bunch of politicians in Washington trying to cover their political ass.
	It's the people who lived through the debacle.
	This was what you said at the time, John.
	You said, I bet these people who were taken off to Germany, who we've never seen or heard from, all received national security letters, and they were told to shut up about what really happened.
	Well, that's what it appears to be.
	There's no other real reason for it.
	Why would somebody say, oh, it was so chilling and miserable, I mean, even though you lived through it, I don't want to talk about it.
	Well, I think they're just reaching out to Senator Graham, who went to see them, went to find him, and they're saying, oh man, some of them are still injured.
	I'm going to do everything I can to get them before the Congress and the American people in an appropriate fashion so that we can learn firsthand what happened in Benghazi.
	He's aware of the national security.
	Yes, that's my point.
	That's why he says he's going to do everything he can to get them before Congress, which means he's going to have to fight the letter, which he's not going to be able to do.
	Well, so we just had this judge come out and say national security letters are unconstitutional because it hampers your right to freedom of speech.
	Yeah, because you can't say.
	It's like Fight Club.
	They call it the Fight Club letter.
	The one thing you can't do is you can't say you ever got one.
	Right.
	You can't say what they tell you you can't say, and then it says that you can't even talk to a lawyer.
	You can't even tell a lawyer that you got a national security letter or you're in breach of some law, some administrative law, which will put you in prison.
	So do you think that this – I mean this shit's going on.
	And apparently this started in the 80s.
	This started – No, they came up with a bright idea, and then they started abusing it as usual.
	So do you think that this judge overturning the national security letters won't hold for other NSLs?
	Do you think it's just a brief blip on the radar?
	No, it's a blip.
	That's sad, man.
	All we have to do is listen to some of these clips I have from Thomas.
	All right, let's roll it.
	I'm ready for this.
	The NSA whistleblower who gave a long talk, a long depressing talk.
	Let me guess.
	Let me guess.
	Was this on C-SPAN? Yes.
	Hold on.
	What we do is you don't have to do.
	So we can all be depressed together.
	And this is Thomas Drake speaking in front of the National Press Club, where he's just pretty much laying out all the problems.
	And remember, he's an NSA executive.
	He's the one who blew the whistle on the illegal wiretapping that was going on.
	And after we've done with this speech, these are the questions and answers.
	And this is the first question, which is on being a whistleblower.
	After your experience, would you advise someone else in your position to blow the whistle on government wrongdoing?
	Yes, but make sure you understand what you're getting yourself into.
	Thank you.
	Do not speak to the FBI and make sure you have a lawyer right from the start.
	If my case is any example, they'll do everything they can to take anything you say and anything they find and use it to justify charges.
	That in my case were actually framed.
	See, I told the truth to the FBI agents.
	They didn't believe me.
	In fact, four of the ten felony counts were for making false statements.
	One of them was for obstructing justice.
	You know why?
	Because the chief prosecutor said that unless I cooperate with the investigation, they were going to pursue prosecution.
	So...
	The answer is yes.
	We actually need more.
	Having spoken to Daniel Ellsberg, he actually thought in the early 70s, with all the publicity that surrounded the Pentagon Papers, that more people would actually step forward.
	And other than some close colleagues and associates, guess what?
	Hardly anybody else stepped forward regarding the travesty of Vietnam.
	So, essentially, he had all his documentation for the illegal wiretapping.
	He presents it to the FBI. They say, you're full of crap.
	This is not happening.
	Now we're going to charge you with giving false information.
	Yeah.
	They predefined it as false.
	This is beautiful.
	What regime was this?
	Was this Bush 2?
	Bush 2, yeah.
	Yeah, okay.
	Okay.
	So anyway, he does a lot of other things.
	This is an interesting one.
	This clip here is kind of interesting.
	This is Drake is talking to a reporter is illegal.
	This was an interesting question.
	You mentioned that former colleagues said to you that they believe talking to reporters is a crime.
	Do you believe that that attitude is pervasive among government employees, and maybe you could address it inside and outside of the intelligence community?
	It is true that in the intelligence community, of which I was a part for many, many years, both as a government employee and as a contractor, and even in the military, that you do sign secrecy agreements.
	And these vary based on the agency.
	The secrecy agreement that I signed was to protect the agreement, what they call protected information, which by definition was classified, truly classified, or under classification review.
	It was actually carefully articulated in terms of executive statutes and rules.
	In this particular case When you're referencing...
	I just want to be very careful here in my wording, okay?
	Because you're referencing former colleagues.
	There was this misunderstanding that if you happen to speak to a reporter, that by definition, anything that you might say to them could be characterized as classified.
	Because you, unless it was authorized...
	Then you were in an unauthorized status, and therefore you were liable under administrative rules.
	Like I said, there are distinctions between agencies, although increasingly they're centralizing us through the DNI. You may have heard very recently that James Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence, is now directing, adding a question, questions to the polygraph mechanism in which individuals that either They're going to be obtaining a clearance or retaining an existing clearance.
	But we asked about unauthorized contact with the press.
	And so, yes, I had individuals that I used to work with who assumed that it was criminal under the U.S. law to have any contact whatsoever with a reporter.
	In fact, I was even asked that question by Scott Pelley on 60 Minutes a couple years ago.
	Shut up, slave!
	So now we can understand a little better why CNN and these other news outlets, they can't...
	Have no news.
	Why they have no news.
	They got no news.
	But then it gets even worse when you play this clip, which is wiretapping journalists question.
	Okie dokie.
	Variation to this question as well.
	Is the government fine on reporters right now?
	Oh, well, we don't need to listen to the whole clip.
	Yes.
	He's going to take three minutes to answer.
	I think the question is wrong.
	Our reporter's CIA is the question.
	I hear you laughing.
	See, here's the dark side.
	Because there's a whole lot I still have not shared fully publicly, okay?
	Although I've shared this with 9-11 congressional investigators, I've shared it with others in Congress when I was still in the government as a senior executive.
	I've made allusions to it in other public fora.
	I've written about it.
	I remember what happened in the 50s, 60s, 70s, right?
	Where instruments of national power were used against reporters.
	Instruments of national power were used against activists or protesters.
	Those that became, quote-unquote, designated as enemies of the state.
	Remember, at one point, Daniel Ellsworth himself was declared to be the most dangerous man in America.
	Hold on.
	I just got to interrupt this.
	So when you're an enemy of the state, that's when those CSS guys come in, John.
	You got to go back and watch the movie with Hackman.
	That's what I was advised.
	When you're enemy of the state, that's when the CSS comes out and that's when you're screwed.
	That's when you get double tapped.
	And this is crazy.
	This is great stuff, by the way.
	Before you go on, you did mention the reporter.
	If you listen to this, and I believe this is probably true, I think the number of reporters that are compromised as agents nowadays is probably minimal.
	I think there's a few leftovers from the olden days, and you can find them, for example.
	He talks about a book that's out there.
	If you go to...
	It's called...
	Oh, I get the name in front of you.
	He's going to mention it.
	It's a book that came out with the governments all over the secrets of the CIA or the untold story or the we're at war.
	I can't remember.
	I'll get the name of it.
	But this guy's being attacked.
	How to Get Rich?
	Is that maybe it?
	How to Get Rich Quick?
	That's good.
	He's...
	I don't think...
	I think there's a few agents out there that are doing some writing, but I think for the most part, this explains why they don't need these guys anymore.
	Because they just wiretap everybody, and as he explains, the wiretapping is not really just to...
	It's not for the journalists.
	They don't give a shit what the journalists are doing.
	They want to know who they're talking to, but you can finish this clip.
	I became an enemy of the state.
	I will tell you without equivocation...
	That the surveillance system, the illegal surveillance system that was put into place after 9-11 and grew from there and came to a huge head in 2004 when James Comey, remember that incident?
	And if you follow what's going on right now with this documentary on Dick Cheney, very interesting what Cheney is now saying unapologetically and also what really was going on because he kept the truth, apparently, from his own president regarding...
	Very senior officials and very senior lawyers who are about to resign over the secret domestic surveillance program.
	Why?
	Because it was illegal.
	I will simply tell you that an aspect of that secret surveillance program called Stellar Wind at the time, I believe has gone through some name changes since.
	At Stellar Wind, we talked about the tech in San Francisco, right?
	Who found out about the secret room at the AT&T building?
	Yeah.
	That's what we're talking about here.
	Right.
	Fantastic.
	Included surveilling reporters and journalists.
	Remember, if you're wired, if you've wired the electronic system, it makes it very, very difficult, unless you engage in other means, to get information to a reporter or a journalist.
	And obviously, if you're concerned about disclosures that they call leaks that are unauthorized, wow, you just keep tap on any and all connections that are made to certain reporters and journalists.
	And that net just widens.
	And so I know for a fact that that actually took place in secret.
	This is no different, but on a much larger scale, than what happened during the 60s and 70s.
	Where they're wiretapping reporters and journalists to ensure to find out who their sources were.
	If you know who the sources are, guess what?
	I don't really have to go after a journalist directly.
	I'll just go after the source.
	So here's really where it gets extremely troubling for me and most disturbing.
	As a result of my own case, I had contact, and this is another paradox of what happened to me.
	I went from having gone to one reporter to having interactions with any number of reporters on and off the record.
	Any number of them have told me privately.
	And it's chilling that even long-time deep sources in government are increasingly reluctant to speak even off the record, even on deep background.
	Guess why?
	They're afraid.
	Well, hold on a second.
	So I think that people with the real information are afraid to do it, but this culture is being created and all the journalists who are just prostitute whores, they're all falling for it.
	Every single report I hear is sources say information.
	So it's all controlled leaking that they want, and that's why we come up with bullcrap.
	Yeah, there's no such thing if you listen to him.
	There's no such thing as a genuine leak.
	Right.
	Exactly.
	But we hear nothing but sources, my sources, information, high officials.
	It's to give us the language of the leak, but it's not.
	It's a language thing.
	So you say these things so the public laps it up as though there's actually something going on when there's nothing.
	It's all scripted.
	You can play part two of this.
	You know what it means to become afraid of your own government?
	Yes, that's why we created this show, everybody.
	Hey, here we are!
	The best podcast here!
	Because of just the possibility that they may get ticked off if you happen to have contact with a reporter.
	Wow.
	I never imagined that that would truly happen on such a large scale in this country.
	And yet some of the very best reporters in this country, investigative reporters, are experiencing precisely that.
	They're being frozen out from their own sources because of fears of the sources have of their own government.
	Ryzen himself is part...
	Of a criminal case with Jeffrey Sterling because of things that were shared in his book called State of War.
	He's caught up, subpoenaed three times.
	And the allegations are he's the only eyewitness to the crime.
	Crime?
	Oh, wow.
	State of War.
	State of War is this CIA. It wasn't cleared by the CIA. It's a book about the CIA. And we talked about the clearance for these books before.
	So this guy's been declared an enemy of the state, this rising guy.
	Now, here's what I always like to do, and I think people should have to do this themselves.
	You go to the Amazon site and you find the reviews of the book.
	And then what you want to find are, like, quasi-professionally written slams.
	Oh, did you find one?
	I'm looking at the Amazon site.
	There's a bunch of them, and they're really good.
	Oh, they're long, too.
	This guy's so phony.
	This is bullcrap.
	And it's like you go to the one-star reviews and read those, and then you track these people, and you can reverse-engineer them.
	You'll find these same exact people are doing the same thing on other...
	They're actually...
	Really high level stooges.
	And it's always fun to kind of find them and see what else they're up to.
	Because what they do is they end up giving away stuff that you should be paying attention to.
	So what did you find?
	What did you find?
	I'm looking at them right now.
	There's other books that if you click on their other reviews, you'll find other stuff that's out there in the wild that you might want to read.
	Interesting.
	Oh, what a great tip, John.
	It's a great reverse engineering, my friend.
	Well, that's really because I'm looking here.
	I'm like, this is good.
	I had to give this book one star since O stars isn't an option.
	I love that.
	Ryzen is obviously making a case against the current administration and just simply doesn't agree with anything.
	Does any of these stooges say he's a racist and hates a black man in the White House?
	Is that in there?
	That's possible.
	It wouldn't surprise me.
	Wouldn't surprise me.
	No, and you know what's great about it, and this is where he's wrong, and he's living in an old world, is that you don't have to be a reporter with sources on the inside, because everything, they're so brazen and blatant about it, they put it on C-SPAN, they put it in the Federal Register, it's all on the internet, all you gotta do is sit in your little studio, in your little shack, in your underwear, some on your chaise lounge, and others, you know, in...
	Well, this is...
	Right.
	And you just collect it.
	It's easy.
	It's easy to see what you're doing.
	We can't get it like breaking news, but we can take our time and collect stuff and look left and right, and you can put it together.
	It's not that hard.
	It's all in the...
	That's the joke of it.
	It's all in the public record.
	Yeah.
	Or it's all in, like, listening to this guy tell us some stuff that we didn't know.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it is out there.
	It's just that you can't get it that kind of journalism school way.
	I mean, all you're going to get is press releases, and that's all they're feeding the public is press releases.
	And there's so much of that that even our show or anything like it or these other people that try to at least discuss some of these things.
	We're just a small, whatever, those guys.
	Screw them.
	We're unimportant.
	We haven't got any smoking gun or we can't prove anything.
	We're just reading from the public record and analyzing.
	John, even if we had a smoking gun, we have no way to get into the meme of the mainstream.
	And it's also not important anymore because the people who listen to and produce this program, you're survivors.
	You know, other people, they're screwed.
	They just die.
	You know, the people have to fall, have to get voted off the island.
	You have to have drinks with them once in a while.
	They get voted off.
	It's the other side.
	Oh, grow up.
	It's fine to drone people.
	Get a clue.
	It's the 21st century.
	What so what if the president wants to kill someone?
	What's your problem?
	I swear to God, people say that.
	It's amazing.
	No, wait a minute.
	You're friends of yours, and you're complaining about my Austin friends who don't want to build roads?
	I mean, come on.
	I'd rather take...
	I'm not taking their side like you are with the...
	That's a big difference.
	More roads than me, more bikes.
	We've got two more clips.
	They're short ones.
	I just want to play him on classified information and then the secrecy laws.
	Yeah, this is a very good series.
	I'm glad you did that, John.
	Thank you.
	Under what circumstances do you think that classified information should be leaked?
	That's a loaded question.
	Oh, my God, did you hear what I said?
	Yes.
	I literally said that's a loaded question when he said it.
	Yeah.
	Oh, my God.
	That's crazy.
	Next. Classified is...
	See, what's happening now is the government is increasingly wants to classify as much as possible.
	Because what that allows them to do is create a larger ambit in which they can charge you for having either retained, disclosed, or leaked classified information.
	But to answer it directly...
	If it involves war crimes, if it involves wrongdoing, if it involves violations of statute, then yes.
	There's very little in government that actually truly ever needs to be classified.
	It always needs to be placed under constant review.
	I want to share a story with you, just to know how crazy this is.
	We were at Mead Road, I guess it was, maybe it was during the Hot Pockets tour?
	Mead Road is where Uncle Don lives.
	And I can't remember what the occasion was.
	Anyway, so, you know, Don is married into the family.
	So, you know, there were some cousins from his side.
	And there, I mean, surprise, surprise.
	Spooks and all kinds of military stuff.
	And one of the girls is, she's 15 or 16, and she was at that point planning to go to New York and to school and to live with my other cousin.
	My other cousin's daughter, Caitlin, so it's, you know, two girls living in New York and, you know, the one's going to do right for Vanity Fair or whatever.
	They're all trying to get jobs and living the American dream.
	Mac and cheese, total mac and cheese.
	But her father is, I forget, but he's definitely high up Air Force.
	His name will come to me in a moment.
	And so she's 16, right?
	And we're sitting at the table, and we're about to have a meal, and I'm just making conversation, and I'm like, hey, so tell me, what was it like living abroad somewhere?
	Asia, I think.
	I don't even remember all this.
	But what stuck out, what I do remember, is she looked at me, 15, 16 years old, looked at me and says, I'm sorry, I don't think you have high enough clearance if you have any clearance for me to talk to you about these things.
	A 16-year-old girl.
	I'm like, whoa.
	And first thing I was like, holy crap, I'm the only guy here who has no clearance.
	I've got to get me some clearance.
	So here's a 16-year-old who's been so programmed by, of course, her life, that she can say, I'm sorry, I don't believe you have high enough clearance, if any.
	You called me out.
	Yeah, loser.
	Why'd you say that?
	She put the L on her forehead like, loser.
	You fucking loser.
	Ain't got no clearance.
	Have some mac and cheese.
	Well, play Drake on secrecy and we'll be done with him.
	The secrecy system, and I'm going to be very, very clear here, is not to be used to cover government illegality, wrongdoing, hiding, administrative inefficiency, ineffectiveness, or, in fact, where the government's actually threatening public safety and health and safety.
	Fraud, waste, and abuse.
	In my experience...
	The secrecy system has become so corrupted that it's now being used routinely to do precisely that, under the color and cover of law.
	And when the color and cover of law is no longer sufficient, then we'll just make up the rules.
	It's one reason the defense experts in my own criminal case were so outraged by the government prosecution.
	Okay, I've just ordered the book on my Kindle.
	Good job, John.
	Good job.
	There's nothing in there that really stands out immediately as clip of the day?
	No, there's no clip of the day in there.
	The clip of the day is probably CPAC on rape.
	No, no, no.
	I think Don't Draw Me Bro did better than that.
	Oh, yeah.
	That was pretty good.
	Just so the people, we have an international audience, and I'd love to reach out across the ocean, hands across the ocean.
	And I'd like to play a little bit of the United Kingdom of Gitmo Nation East's government.
	You know, we always talk about gun laws here and everything.
	So this is some pre-crime.
	Hold on, let me just give me some pre-crime.
	Where's my pre-crime?
	There's my pre-crime.
	Before it's a crime, it's pre-crime.
	I'm sure that the Prime Minister will wish to add his condolences to the family and friends of Christina Edkins, who was murdered on a bus to school in my constituency last Thursday morning.
	The Government has rightly introduced minimum custodial sentences for people convicted of threatening someone with a knife, but would the Prime Minister agree with me that it is time to introduce a legal assumption that people carrying a knife intend to use it and should attract a prison sentence so that we can redouble our efforts to rid our communities of the scourge of knives?
	The scourge of knives.
	So if you have a knife with you, it will automatically be assumed you are trying to kill someone.
	Kill someone.
	Why else would you have a knife, my friend?
	For protection?
	Well, that is just insane.
	Carry a gun for protection.
	Yeah, that's right.
	I just want to take away any weaponry you can possibly imagine.
	Yeah, unarm, disarm the shittisonry.
	That's what it's all about.
	Yeah, just disarm them and then, you know, and then run roughshod.
	Take their money.
	Take their money from the bank.
	Right.
	Take their money.
	Take their arms.
	Hold on a second.
	Bitcoin all the way.
	Take their privacy, take their money, take their everything.
	Yeah, what's your problem?
	Don't you get it yet?
	Yeah, don't you get it, man?
	They're trying to protect you for your own good.
	Yeah, that's your friends.
	Trying to protect you.
	It's okay, man.
	The president can drone somebody from time to time, man.
	Don't worry about it.
	Grow up.
	As always, John, great talking with you.
	It's a pleasure.
	It's a pleasure talking to you.
	You always come up with some of the most amazing insights.
	It astonishes me that this show is so good.
	Wow, that's quite an endorsement there from ourselves.
	Yes.
	Somebody's got to do it.
	We can't seem to win any awards.
	Thank you very much for watching C-SPAN so incredulously so that we actually have some awesome clips.
	And with that, we will be back on Thursday...
	With a whole new episode of The Best Podcast in the Universe.
	Coming to you from Austin, everybody.
	In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I reside, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
	The best podcast in the universe!

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