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488: Sponsor Influence

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	Only Amiga makes it possible.
	Shut up already!
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, February 17, 2013.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 488.
	This is No Agenda.
	Sitting in and on boxes.
	Nothing left but a bare-bones studio here in Cap Mofo at the capital of the drone star state.
	Austin Tejas.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And it's cold here in Chili Con Valley.
	I'm John C. DeVorek.
	With Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Chili Con Valley.
	They must have said that on the news this morning.
	This cannot be a John C. DeVorek original.
	I In fact, it is.
	I thought of it just a second ago, noticing how cold it is.
	And you said, hey, I've got a great one, a play on words.
	Chili con valley.
	A play on words we've never heard before.
	Right.
	Well, um...
	Yes, I'm going to probably have chili con carny for dinner.
	And of course, you were thinking about that.
	You didn't even notice what I said.
	What did you say?
	That we're sitting in and on boxes.
	Yeah, no, I heard that.
	Oh, okay.
	It's empty.
	Do you hear the, hello?
	Hello?
	I can't, yeah, I did there.
	Do you hear the...
	This actually gives it nice ambience.
	I think you should do the, you should keep an empty room.
	Yeah.
	Sounds good.
	Yeah, no, it does not sound good.
	It sounds echoey.
	No, no.
	That sounds better than you think.
	It sounds good.
	No, no, no, no.
	Chat room, tell them what it sounds like.
	Tell them it sounds bigger.
	Now the chat room's your bestest buddy.
	This is true.
	The chat room knows.
	Knows all.
	The all-knowing chat room.
	Yeah, so literally we have planned our lives once again to move around the show.
	So yesterday we had the two men in a truck here all day packing up with us.
	And so right after the show, after the show is post-produced and the show notes are done, everything's uploaded, which takes another two hours after the show.
	Then I break it all down, and then tomorrow morning we move over.
	And then I'm going to spend...
	I don't know how many days.
	You know, it has been...
	First of all, Miss Mickey's done a great job.
	She's doing everything.
	The only thing I have to do is basically...
	They sound like a couple of gypsies.
	Yeah.
	So I had...
	You know GeekDesk?
	You know these...
	Have you heard of this?
	GeekDesk.com?
	So they came out with a new product, which is a stand-up desk with an electric motor, but finally one that's affordable because these desks are typically, you know, $2,000 if you want to get a desk that can move from sitting position up to standing position because I really wanted to build a stand-up studio.
	And I don't want to have it to be a fixed height because...
	I always thought you were a stand-up kind of guy.
	Yes, besides the pun, but I am.
	I like doing it.
	I like standing while doing shows, etc.
	And so they came out with this product, which is like $500 for a stand-up desk.
	And this is the only splurge.
	I got two of them for the new studio.
	So, you know, I ordered on time and everything, and, you know, the boxes came, and, of course, only one of the tabletops came.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And then the other one was damaged, like a huge gouge right in the top.
	So I'm like, oh, man, you know, this is going to suck.
	I have two elevating frames with no wood on it.
	I'm going to have to go get some wood or whatever.
	And you go back on the site.
	I'm like, oh, okay.
	There's no phone number.
	I'm like, oh, this is going to suck so bad.
	So I send them like, hey, I only received one tabletop and that one's destroyed.
	And lo and behold, I get an email from Jennifer.
	And she's like, well, looks like the order got split.
	Somehow UPS will deliver the other one on Monday.
	And I've immediately sent a picture of the tabletop.
	I immediately have sent a new one to replace the one that's broken.
	I'm like, okay.
	That's pretty cool.
	So what company is this?
	GeekDesk.com.
	Geek?
	GeekDesk, yeah.
	Geek?
	Yeah, as in Golf Echo Echo Kilo.
	Golf?
	Are you looking or are you just being a douche?
	No, I said geek desk and you said no.
	No, I said...
	And then I thought you said deek desk and I said deek desk and then you said no, golf and I said golf and so it's geek desk.
	Geek desk, yeah.
	So that's how that happened.
	Yeah, so...
	I love that.
	So they have this new product, which is like $500 for a desk, which is really...
	How much was yours?
	$500.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	That's what...
	Duh.
	It's kind of pricey.
	I got a stand-up desk from Ikea for like $160.
	But how big is it?
	It's big.
	No, it's not.
	It's enough for a computer and a keyboard.
	Yeah?
	Yeah.
	John, I have three monitors here.
	I've got two mixers.
	This is a serious operation.
	This is not like an Ikea.
	You can just side-by-side and put three monitors on them.
	Yeah, and then what's the price?
	It's more than $500.
	Then you're like...
	No, it's $150 to pop $300.
	You just said...
	No, you need three...
	Okay.
	Do you want the best podcast in the universe to be a frickin' Ikea operation?
	Is that what I'm hearing you say?
	We have jingles, my friend!
	No, shut up, you!
	No!
	It's getting you crazy.
	All right.
	Just saying.
	No, it's not.
	It's a lot cheaper than an Amish desk.
	Let's put it that way.
	I don't have an Amish desk.
	I'm just saying that I'm spending resources on the show, and you're taking us to IKEA level.
	Thanks.
	You think IKEA sucks, huh?
	Hold on a second.
	Let me look this up.
	Yes, IKEA blows chunks.
	Some assembly required.
	Lost my hex thing.
	Anyway, so it was important that I could adjust it.
	It doesn't matter if it's a motor.
	I would have done it with a crank handle.
	It has a motor?
	Yeah, for that price, it's pretty cool.
	So you're moving right to that.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You know, it's funny.
	I think broadcasting where you're standing up is good.
	I'm actually in a chase lounge.
	From Martha Stewart?
	And I have the microphone hanging.
	Really?
	Are you serious?
	Are you kicking back?
	I am kicking back as we speak.
	So, how do you...
	Are you using a laptop on your lap?
	No, no.
	The screen is like, let's see, about five feet from here.
	I like to keep the screen away from me.
	Because it's better for the eyes.
	Right.
	Speaking of this, I'm kind of leaning back.
	I'm almost parallel to the earth.
	Are you grounded properly?
	That's weird because you'd say that because there's something going on.
	There's definitely something in that.
	First of all, we have a jingle for that.
	It's Lightning Rod and Grounding Braves.
	In the morning.
	Hello, everybody.
	We're Lightning Rod and Grounding Braid.
	So you are earthed today, John.
	Are you earthed?
	Yeah, well, kind of.
	Let's go back to, there's the, boy, that geek desk site is the slowest thing in history.
	Well, no, the whole chat room is on it, so we've basically, we've crashed, apparently we have like a twit-sized audience these days.
	So anyway, I've been getting jolts constantly around the house.
	Really?
	And I thought it was my shoes, because I got a couple of these insulated top sliders or whatever they are.
	But I've tried different shoes and slippers, and so when I'm making my cuts from the TV... Slippers?
	Slippers.
	Yeah.
	You want to wear slippers.
	Yeah.
	So anyway, some people walk around barefooted, I don't understand.
	So anyway, so I'm making these cuts and every time I go back to the little recorder, which is hooked to the DVR, I just dread to touch it because I get a jolt every time I do it.
	And you do one of those where you touch it real fast, like that's going to make the shock less?
	The DVR itself, I just find a piece of metal and I knuckle it.
	You knuckle it?
	Wait a minute, does the knuckle not give you the jolt then?
	It gives you a jolt that's very tolerable.
	So, really?
	So, this is important information.
	Because I'm one of the people, you know, if it's static and I know I'm going to get a shock or I've gotten a couple, then everything I touch I do the real, like, you know, the quick touch.
	But that's not the way to do it, apparently.
	No, what you want to do is actually use your finger knuckles, but if you really don't like any shock whatsoever, you use your fist knuckle, you know, the bottom one, big giant one, and you touch with that.
	Really?
	You see the jolt there, but for some reason, I think the nerves are not as sensitive to it, like the fingertips, which are sensitive.
	So you touch with your fingertips, it hurts.
	So I'm wandering around, and I go to the kitchen.
	I couldn't believe this.
	I got a jolt from some potatoes.
	Well, you know, you can make a battery out of a potato.
	Well, I guess a potato had contact with the...
	There was some butter on the potato, which was contact with the metal on the stove.
	And when I went to touch...
	I don't know if I was even touching the potatoes, but I went to touch them and I got a jolt.
	And that was the end.
	I mean, right now, I don't know what the deal is, but there's so much static and it's been going on for months.
	I don't know if it's all of California, just my house or maybe somebody's rigged a listening device and it's kind of screwed up the electricity in the place.
	I have no idea.
	But it's bugging me.
	This is interesting.
	Well, there's something going on then.
	I mean, it's...
	When the potato gives me a shot, I'd say.
	Hmm.
	Hmm.
	I would be somewhat concerned, personally.
	Well, I am.
	That's why I'm complaining about it.
	So you were talking about your eyes.
	I didn't mention this the other day.
	Now, for those of you who are new to the program, this is the best podcast in the universe.
	When I stop smoking, a 33-year habit, and of course, I'm saying this 33 for a reason, My eyesight changed.
	And this would be presumably because I have less impurities flowing through the blood vessels in general and specifically in my eyes.
	So my focal point changed.
	And I've had a...
	You say, how many feet do you sit away from the monitor?
	Three feet, you say?
	Right now I'm probably about four.
	And what is the resolution of the monitor?
	Because that's kind of important.
	1920 by 1080, of course.
	Hmm.
	Okay, so when I do that, let's see.
	Yeah, that is really nice, but I can't do it without my glasses.
	And currently in the studio, I'm about, I'd say, two and a half feet, which is a comfortable range for me wearing the glasses.
	If I get any further, then I have to literally slide the glasses on my nose, or if I get any closer, I have to take them off because I'm myopic.
	Myopic, I think is what it is.
	Myopia.
	So I get a whole bunch of emails, just like we have tons of dentists and oral health care professionals.
	As well as truck drivers.
	Yes, we have truck drivers, we have oral health care providers, but we also have ophthalmologists amongst our elite listenership.
	And so I'm getting a lot of advice, varying degrees of advice, of course.
	And also a lot of people still think there's a lot of push towards the LASIK operation.
	And I want to say this about LASIK, which is the eye operation to correct your vision.
	One, it still to this day, to my knowledge, invalidates your pilot's license.
	They are not happy with this surgery.
	Unless you hide it, which I think most people do.
	Two, isn't it always the case, John, maybe you can back me up on this, when someone says, hey, this guy that did my LASIK surgery, he invented the procedure.
	Have you picked up on this, that people are always telling you their guy invented the procedure?
	I've never actually had a discussion with anyone who's had the LASIK surgery in that regard.
	I don't know.
	But I can imagine that because it seems as if...
	I mean, it used to be called radio care and something or others, carrot off of me.
	And it was a Russian, I think, invention.
	People can correct us in real time.
	And it was always a crappy...
	It never worked very well.
	It got perfected over the years.
	And...
	So, yeah.
	You know what I'm saying?
	It's like people...
	I mean, I got someone here in Austin told me...
	You know, Bloom, Ron Bloom, he told me that his guy in Atlanta...
	Oh, this guy had actually...
	He invented the procedure.
	So I'm like, this is bull crap.
	And we know...
	As far as I know, it was invented by a Russian.
	And I believe he's dead.
	Yeah, Joseph Lasik, I think his name was.
	No, is it?
	No, but also the FDA has come out later and said, well, this really shouldn't have been approved.
	No one talks about that anymore.
	So anyway, but the most interesting I received, several people have told me about the Bates Method.
	Yeah, that's old.
	Yeah, I had a guy who convinced...
	Can I just explain what...
	Yes, let me just tell you what it is.
	It's exercising the eyeball muscles.
	So William Horatio Fellatio Bates in 1890, 1895, he came out with the Bates...
	By the way, the guy was a master.
	Well, he got kicked out of every organization as a kook.
	Master Bates did?
	Yes.
	John, you're just killing me with the humor today.
	With the word puns, it's just...
	You're killing me.
	I like the way you walked into that one.
	No, no, but it's like...
	I'm like, did he really do that?
	Did John just really do that one?
	So, the Bates method is based on his observance that it is not the eye...
	Muscles that no longer work.
	And he would take a...
	What do you call the device that you measure your oculence with or the...
	Hold on, I'm looking for the actual...
	Well, he has the...
	What's the name of this damn...
	I don't know.
	Anyway, so he would measure the eye, and he would do things with light and standing at some distance from his subject's eye.
	He would then determine that the eye actually could contract and go oval shape and all the things that it needed to do in order to see either distance or close up, but it's actually the brain...
	That is trying too hard to focus at either the great distance or the closer distance, and that it is a matter of training your brain to see, not the eye, that the eye actually has all of the capability.
	This is not the theory that I received.
	Well, this is the Bates method.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, that's possible.
	I mean, I can understand it because the eye is seeing...
	Apparently, if you actually map what the eye is seeing at any given time, you can actually map the optic nerve.
	You're not seeing anything.
	You're seeing little bits and pieces of stuff that the brain puts together.
	Right.
	I mean, that's why movies and TV works because you're not...
	If you actually saw what was going on, you'd see just flashes of images.
	Mm-hmm.
	So his whole thing is it's really...
	Actually, he's saying the whole glasses business, the whole optometry is a big scam.
	I'm like, this is my kind of guy.
	You don't need glasses.
	I can't see anything.
	It's a scam you're being scammed.
	I am following the Bates method to see how that works out.
	So far, not doing too well, I have to admit.
	But I like the idea.
	Well, the guy...
	There used to be a guy in...
	Guy CUNY was a computer writer, and he's out of London, and he gave me a long lecture about...
	His method was the exercise method, which is that the eyeball gets pulled.
	Like, if you're reading all the time, you're close up, the eyeball is being...
	to become nearsighted.
	And that's what people read a lot, always get glasses real early.
	And then people who are the athlete types have to see a long distance.
	They tend to be farsighted.
	Yeah, misandry.
	And it's just a matter of exercising those muscles to get the eyeball to start to round up a little bit more.
	And I think that makes some sense.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I know that when you get older, and this could be happening to you, by the way, you begin to get more farsighted naturally.
	Yes, yeah.
	So if you're nearsighted as a kid, you get damn, you know, it's amazing how...
	Well, but what I thought was interesting is that...
	Normalized drives get pretty normal when you get older.
	But this happened to me right after I stopped smoking, so I don't believe that that was any...
	Difference in my eyes' ability to focus, but clearly in the signals being sent to my brain, which were less clouded by whatever crap was in my blood vessels.
	So, I mean, I'm kind of buying into it.
	He also says, and there's a whole book that...
	I bought his book on the...
	His book's on Kindle, by the way.
	Mr.
	Bates.
	Yeah.
	Ten bucks.
	Ten bucks on Kindle.
	Which is a scam, because someone's just republishing that for free.
	It's, you know, it's obviously public domain.
	Yeah.
	That when you wake up from sleep, it's hard for you to see when you first open your eyes because your eyes are actually not at rest when you're sleeping.
	You have rapid eye movement.
	Your eyes are doing a lot of stuff, so they're not relaxed at all.
	And it really is when your eyes are at their most relaxed, when you're relaxed, and your brain is relaxed and not straining.
	When you strain to see, then you'll never be able to see whatever your correction issue is, your distance problem.
	Well, I think we lost half our audience there with this discussion, but...
	Oh, no.
	Why don't you go back to the masturbation jokes, John?
	That'll really keep them in.
	I'm trying to keep things lively.
	Well, then let me lay something on you right now.
	Good.
	So, after the State of the Union, the President, the next day, did a hangout known as a fire...
	Oh, yeah.
	By the way, this bothered me because it was right during our show.
	Yes.
	Well, that's why I couldn't watch it live.
	And even so, like a fireside chat, it was called the fireside hangout with the President.
	Oh, please.
	Yes.
	So, like Roosevelt's Fireside Chat, it is the Fireside Hangout, brought to you by Google.
	And, of course, it was incredibly lame.
	No questions were really asked.
	Everything's set up.
	Everything's pre-programmed.
	You know Clarissa, who was trying to validate us on Google.
	She's in charge of the celebrity hangout, so I'm sure she was a part of it.
	But there was one question...
	That in particular the President's answer, it caught my attention.
	That your administration now believes it's legal to have drone strikes on American citizens, and whether or not that's specifically allowed with citizens within the United States.
	And if that's not true, what will you do to create a legal framework to make American citizens within the United States know that drone strikes cannot be used against American citizens?
	So when this question came up, I'm like, all right, this is where it's going to go.
	He's going to say, oh, no, we're going to have a special court, a drone court, much like the FISA court.
	So we'll have a judge that can rubber stamp it.
	And then we have another branch that has some kind of oversight, which, of course, is bull crap, since the president pretty much appoints all the judges.
	So great question.
	That's the answer I'm expecting.
	Or he could just say, hey, I'm not going to drone American citizens in America.
	But the answer was different.
	First of all, I think there's never been a drone used on an American citizen on American soil.
	We respect and have a whole bunch of safeguards in terms of how we conduct counter-terrorism operations outside of the United States.
	The rules outside the United States are going to be different than the rules inside the United States, in part because our capacity to, for example, capture terrorists in the United States are very different.
	So did I just hear the President say, the rules are going to be different?
	Well, that's exactly what he said.
	But he didn't say, no, we won't drone you.
	He just said, well, it's going to be easier to capture you probably, so we won't have to, but the rules are just going to be different.
	Yeah, that's what he said.
	He didn't say, no, we're not going to.
	He said, we're going to drone American citizens on American soil under different rules.
	Well, he never said, he never positively said that they're going to drone people.
	I want to listen to that.
	It hasn't happened.
	Wait, he said it hasn't happened yet.
	Yet, yet, yet.
	And we don't need to do it here because we can grab somebody.
	No, he said the rules will be different.
	Yeah, he said that too, but he never positively said we will drone people or we won't.
	He didn't answer the question in my opinion.
	Safeguards in terms of how we conduct counter-terrorism operations outside of the United States.
	The rules outside the United States are going to be different than the rules inside the United States, in part because Our capacity to, for example, capture terrorists in the United States are very different than in the foothills or mountains of Afghanistan or Pakistan.
	Now, to me it means, yeah, I could probably drone you, just under different rules.
	No, I think he...
	He doesn't say no.
	Let's put it that way.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, no, of course.
	I mean, come on.
	We know this is going to happen.
	We think every so often, because we're always predicting it's a possibility at any given time, but it's going to happen that this Dorner thing would have probably been a drone job if the public hadn't turned against the whole thing.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I'm just waiting for the whole public to be, you know, in synchronous going drone, drone, drone, drone, drone, drone.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I just want to set that again.
	We're bloodthirsty.
	That we are the ones who invented the game show.
	Win, lose, or drone.
	Co-inventor, Sir Jeff Smith.
	Because you have no show without imaging.
	Because the mainstream media rips us off all the time.
	I mean, all the effing time.
	Did you see this Velveeta ad?
	I can't imagine Kraft ripping us off.
	Oh, okay.
	So the only visual part of the rip-off that you won't hear in this 15-second spot is the number 33 is on the display.
	You know that guy that's got a ham radio in his basement?
	He can talk to China, Mongolia, and all the Koreas.
	And he eats Velveeta shells and cheese.
	So who are you calling, amateur?
	Liquid gold.
	Eat like that guy you know.
	Okay, liquid gold, number 33, ham radio, Chinas, please.
	At least they could have offered me the voiceover.
	Huh.
	Well, 33.
	What does it mean?
	Channel 33 on the display.
	Well, we might as well get into it right now.
	33, of course, was rampant, rampant all over this meteorite strike over Russia.
	33,000 miles per hour.
	$33 million is what it's going to cost.
	Everything was 33.
	Yeah, I know.
	But why?
	What is it?
	Oh, because...
	No, it's been going on with it.
	People just started listening to our show should know that we discovered this 33 kind of meme that we have no idea what its purpose is.
	But it always tends to indicate some sort of a sham or a scam or a signal.
	A signal, yes.
	A wink, wink, wink, wink kind of thing of some sort.
	But we don't know who's implementing it, how it got implemented.
	But it shows up far too often.
	In fact, there used to be a segment on this show, which you stopped doing because it was just ridiculous.
	Here we go.
	Yeah, here it is.
	There you go.
	And it would be endless.
	And it would always be sketchy stories.
	Okay, so do you want to...
	I have, I think, a pretty solid theory on why 33 showed up around this Russian meteorite.
	All right.
	Because this is clearly a 33-type story, obviously.
	First of all, as a renowned Nobel Prize-winning astronomer, I would love to hear your general take on what you saw on these just fascinating video.
	I mean, so professionally shot and so, you know, just great.
	Well, I saw like a crashing plane in one video and then just a streak.
	And then all the good videos, of course, were computer generated.
	Yes, yes, obviously.
	And then there was a few people floating around with cuts on their faces.
	A thousand people.
	I don't know.
	I mean, then they showed a big hole in the lake.
	Yeah.
	Apparently this hit the lake.
	Now, this is what's kind of weird.
	So this thing hits the lake at 33,000 miles an hour.
	Lake 33, I guess.
	Yeah.
	And it put this perfectly round hole in the lake.
	But if it was coming in with that kind of impact, I think it would have drained the lake.
	It would have thrown the lake completely into the air and it would have just been a huge mess.
	There wouldn't be a nice hole with ice around it.
	The ice sheet would have been blown to smithereens.
	If this thing had hit that water at that speed, it would have evaporated half the lake and blew the rest of the lake into the woods.
	I mean, this is bullcrap.
	Yeah.
	And do you notice how, you know, when there's a cruise ship with 4,000 people pooping in bags, CNN sends everyone there and they're on the scene and they're on the air for hours covering it live as this thing goes.
	24-7 poop.
	Poop gate.
	Poop gate.
	And this freaking meteorite explodes with the, oh, and by the way, 33 times the Hiroshima bomb.
	I've heard that one a couple times.
	33 times, please.
	And it's like they send one guy who happens to be in Moscow, they send him up there, and then there's a bunch of guys like, go back, you know, you'll film here.
	You know, it's like a bunch of rooskies.
	And everyone's just accepting this, like this is normal.
	Whereas this has, the last time this happened, Do you know the last event of this magnitude of an exploding meteorite?
	I'm surprised.
	The one that knocked down the forest?
	Yeah.
	That was an asteroid, I think.
	Well, now, I've learned that an asteroid becomes a meteorite when it enters the atmosphere.
	But that was the Tunguska event.
	Yeah, that's the big one.
	That knocked down something like 1,000 square miles of trees.
	Yes, and that was in 1908 in Siberia, and it knocked down, let me see how many, because you still see the pictures of the trees.
	And I think that was a larger event than this was.
	But I just have a couple questions before I get into my theory here.
	The sound of speed is 762 miles per hour, like 1,200 kilometers.
	The speed of sound.
	The speed of sound, yeah.
	So the sonic boom...
	You know, a sonic boom takes place over the sound barrier.
	So, of course, 33,000 miles an hour, you know, does not mean that you get a bigger boom.
	I mean, I don't understand.
	How come when, you know, when a jet breaks a sound barrier, you know, we don't have walls crumbling and it's...
	I mean, is it the speed?
	Is it the size of the object?
	That's the distance, I think, from where you're hearing.
	We don't hear it's illegal to make a sonic boom in the United States.
	I should be arrested.
	What?
	I should be arrested.
	I made a sonic boom just this morning.
	And you're talking to me about the masturbate joke?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so anyway, when I was a kid, a little kid, it was still legal to fly past the speed of sound, and there were booms all the time, all day.
	There would be, at least in California, you would hear a sonic boom three or four times a day, and it was annoying.
	It was a loud, it sounded like some blew up, boom!
	Right, but it wasn't.
	It would shake the place.
	Yeah, but not like walls falling down and glass shattering everywhere.
	No, but I would assume if the jet was right across the street, it would probably do some damage.
	They're at altitude.
	And how do they know it was traveling 33,000 miles per hour?
	Does a cop get it with a ray gun?
	Who determines all this?
	Who determines this?
	And no one's asking any questions.
	This is a huge event.
	This is not just like, wow, look at that cool video, which is the way the media is treating it.
	So I get all the 33s.
	I get the way the media is treating it.
	I start to get really...
	Really antsy, because this is not insignificant, and the timing of the thing.
	The meteor shower in Russia, the asteroid some 17,000 miles away.
	I think everyone really has two questions here.
	First of all, is there a connection here, and is there a difference between a meteor shower and an asteroid?
	Help us out.
	So when the mainstream media is asking these questions, I'm happy, but they're asking it of the frickin' idiot with the bow tie.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So, there's no connection in a sense.
	They're independent orbits, but there's a connection in the sense that they're both primordial objects in the solar system that cross.
	Yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Shut up already.
	Science.
	Exactly.
	So, Bill Nye, the science guy, you know, he's like, oh, there's no connection.
	Okay.
	There is definitely a connection, and I think it's not that hard to figure out.
	And in fact, it is the elites, I can name them, and I shall name them, who are directly responsible for not this one, but for three events that took place.
	And I'm going to connect these dots for you, which for some reason, it's not allowed to be done, because I guess if we knew the truth, we'd all be freaking out.
	Asteroids, which turn when pieces of it or when they break into the atmosphere, become meteorites, are extremely, extremely valuable.
	If you have a little piece of a meteorite rock, I mean, that's valuable, right, John?
	There are people who go out and are looking for these all the time.
	Oh, yeah, there are meteorite hunters.
	Yes.
	And if you get a big enough one, I mean, they could be worth millions of dollars.
	Millions of dollars.
	About a year ago to date, this was the news report.
	They are some of the most influential and wealthiest men on the planet.
	Google's Larry Page and Eric Schmidt, director James Cameron, X-Prize founder Peter Diamandis, and billionaire Ross Perot Jr.
	Together, these power players, along with a number of other incredible minds, plan to take on outer space.
	If you put two Google billionaires with a Microsoft billionaires and some astronauts together, you can't go wrong.
	Just what they're up to is still a mystery.
	They've announced they're forming a new sales exploration company to expand Earth's resource base, creating a new industry and new definition of natural resources.
	What does that mean?
	Diamandis gave Forbes this hint.
	Since my childhood, I've wanted to do one thing, be an asteroid miner.
	That's right.
	NASA is an agency to nowhere.
	And so we need private enterprise, especially people with deep pockets, to help jumpstart the program.
	And maybe mining the heavens is just the ticket.
	Okay, so these guys started a company with the guy who you heard saying he wanted to be an asteroid miner.
	He's the XPRIZE guy.
	And their company, their idea was, or is, to get the incredible...
	I mean, we're talking billions of dollars off of an asteroid because of the minerals that are on.
	I mean, it's just unbelievable how much riches can be found in an asteroid.
	So NASA spearheaded this idea of tractor beaming, they call it a bezel beam, B-E-S-S-E-L, I think, the bezel beam of tractor beaming an asteroid and being able to control where it will crash so you could then go and get it.
	So these a-holes knew that this thing was, so there's a definite connection with this AD13-2012 asteroid, which came really close.
	They're all like, oh, wow, we've got to get the tractor beam on this thing.
	And you can call me nuts, but all of this is pretty well documented.
	Wait, wait, where is it well documented?
	What, the tractor beam?
	Oh, you can just look at NASA's website.
	I have all the links in the show notes.
	Okay.
	Yeah, no, NASA beam...
	No, no, keep going.
	I don't want to stop yourself.
	NASA has the three-laser approach where they're trying to tractor beam the...
	I'm just calling it a tractor beam, but they're trying to control the orbit of the asteroid and control it to crash in a controlled fashion so they know where to go and get it, and hopefully so it doesn't land on someone's house.
	So they tried to do this with this...
	With this asteroid, and it actually, they wound up either splitting pieces of it off three times.
	So if you Google Rodas Cienfuegos in Cuba, they had an asteroid explode.
	On the 13th of February, or a meteorite, I should say, they had the exact same event.
	Then we had the one in Russia, and right after that, they tried it over Northern California, John.
	Now, I don't know if it crashed or where it crashed.
	No one has reported on that.
	But they tried to get this thing three times, and all they were successful at is breaking off chunks of it with their stupid lasers, and those are now exploding into our atmosphere.
	That is what happened here.
	And for some reason, we can't talk about the other two events.
	We can't talk about what happened over Northern California.
	We can't talk about what happened over Cuba.
	No one is talking about that.
	No one.
	And no one is connecting the fact that these a-holes are trying to tractor being these asteroids.
	And they're putting us at risk.
	So it's kind of like a space war.
	Well, borderline second half of show material, but we do know that everything you said is accurate, but you've pieced it together in a unique way that makes it sound...
	Awesome.
	And I would say that the coincidence is not that elusive.
	I mean, I feel the same way about it.
	You have this crazy asteroid, which, by the way, may have been guided early on to get so close.
	To get so close, yeah.
	Because that's pretty close.
	I mean, imagine with the vastness of space that this thing comes between.
	It comes beneath at 17,000 feet.
	It comes beneath where most of our communication satellites are.
	And could have hit one, but that's another long shot.
	What I always find interesting is when I come up with this story like this, which literally the Google guys are saying, you're heroes, hero of the stupid.
	Everyone's on the Google.
	Everyone's on Google+.
	We all love Google's great.
	Oh, they're awesome.
	SpaceX, Elon Musk, everyone's awesome.
	But when I actually call them what they're doing, then I'm nuts.
	I'm just looking at the chat room.
	Yeah, but the moon landing happens.
	The moon landing happened, and I should believe all that, but this story is not, is crazy.
	Now I'm crazy?
	You can't have it both way, people.
	You can't.
	So anyway, we do know they're working on this stuff, and everybody does know that these things are worth a lot of money.
	And I'm still concerned, though, there's a couple minor issues here.
	I'm still concerned about the piece that sloughed off or was busted off or was cracked off or who knows, that hit Russia at 33,000 miles an hour and formed a perfect hole in a lake.
	No, they didn't find anything.
	They didn't find anything in the lake.
	They just showed a hole on television.
	They didn't find anything.
	They're like, oh, we can't find anything.
	This is a hole.
	Some guy was fishing for beaver earlier or whatever, like ice fishing, and it's just a hole.
	It's just bullshit.
	There's no meteorite that came down there.
	This is just showing you shit on TV, and I can't believe you're falling for it.
	I didn't say I'm falling for it.
	I'm telling you that I believe something happened in Russia, but I don't believe that a hole in the ice has anything to do with it because it doesn't make any sense.
	No, I think the meteorite story of it exploding is probably true.
	Now, whether they shot it, whether it was shot out of the sky or whatever, or it explodes upon impact with the atmosphere, I really...
	Not shooting anything out of the sky at that speed.
	I think...
	That this is happening because they're messing with these asteroids trying to get them.
	And the chunks are breaking off.
	Why is no one talking about what happened in Cuba?
	Why is no one talking about what happened over Northern California, San Francisco?
	It's not newsworthy?
	It's not the same event?
	I don't get it.
	Well, they have meteor showers every so often, too.
	There's lots of these things.
	And, you know, people just don't talk about meteors.
	Nobody's going to think that this thing you've dreamed up by putting dots together that may or may not be connected.
	It's just that there's no way.
	How do you prove any of this?
	Prove that we're on the moon!
	Prove that we're on Mars!
	What?
	What?
	How do you prove any of it?
	How do you prove that I wasn't there?
	How do you prove that it wasn't just a television fakery?
	I mean, you can't go down that road with me.
	You know better than that.
	Well, then we can't prove anything.
	We're just living in a world of dreams.
	Correct.
	There we have it.
	This is why I said, after Sandy Hook, this show has no value for me.
	It's over.
	Because I'm computer generated.
	I'm not real.
	I'm not really talking to you.
	I could be speaking to hell.
	I could be speaking to Watson.
	Yes, go to the doctor.
	Anyway, so, you know, look, it's better than just showing the video over and over again and going, wow, wasn't that incredible?
	No one's, I mean, come on, 33 times the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima?
	This is not an insignificant thing to gloss over.
	No, I agree.
	And if it's, you know, it was, what, 750 kilotons?
	I can't remember.
	It was less than a megaton.
	Yeah.
	Or maybe even far less than that.
	Yeah, it was something like, I don't know, whatever it was, it was enough to flatten the city.
	And if this is 33 times bigger, it should have taken, it should have been like that tree event.
	At Tunguska.
	Yeah, it should have been similar at least.
	At least Mount St.
	Helens.
	Yeah, and how come, you know, the science guy...
	Not a hole, a perfectly round hole in a lake that people point at and go, oh, look at the hole, it's perfectly round.
	It was like the silhouette of the planes in the Twin Towers, like Wile E. Coyote.
	You know?
	You know how the wings melted into those steel buildings?
	That was cool.
	It's just like that hole in the ice.
	You're re-orging the show.
	No!
	Look, I didn't make up this meteorite.
	I didn't invent this thing to happen.
	This is not second half of the show material.
	This is top of the news.
	Over and over again.
	I mean, come on.
	It's top of the news.
	I would have gone second half.
	No.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Well, you know what?
	I can edit it out of order.
	No, no, you're not editing it.
	Hey, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	And in the morning to all the ships at sea, boots on the ground, and subs in the water, also the feet in the air, and then dames and knights out there.
	And big in the morning to Martin J.J. for producing the artwork for the previous episode of the best podcast in the universe, The No Agenda Show.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com is up and running.
	It accepts new submissions.
	New artists can get on board.
	Thank you very much, Paul.
	For fixing us up there and getting that back up and running, and we can't wait to see what we're going to have later on.
	And, you know, as I said, amidst all of this craziness that's going on, we're moving to a new house, and I need a name for it, actually.
	I can't be calling it Camp Mofo anymore, since, you know, this is kind of the camp, and now we're moving...
	In town, I need some suggestions for a new name.
	I don't have anything.
	I don't even have a good name for my own operation.
	What do you mean?
	You have the Buzzkill Bunker.
	I like that.
	Yeah, it's up north.
	Oh, okay.
	This is northern Silicon Valley.
	Why don't we just call it The Vault?
	The Vault?
	Yeah.
	Your place?
	No, your place.
	No, it's not the vault.
	Yeah, it is, because it's your archive.
	It's in the vault.
	Everything there is an archive.
	I'm an archivist.
	Or we could call it the den, as in the hamster den.
	No, no, no dens.
	I like the buzzkill.
	Not in the Midwest with a den.
	I'll meet you in the den, Chip.
	Biff.
	I'm Biff.
	Biff.
	Well, then maybe we keep it at the vault.
	Drink up the name for your own place before you start projecting to me.
	I'm so sorry.
	Didn't know you were going to get all huffy about it.
	So I ended up...
	Let's do our executive producers here.
	We do have a few.
	Let's do that.
	Let me open the spreadsheet.
	Oh, here's a good one.
	Adam's Luxury House.
	Yeah, that's great chat room.
	Go fuck yourself.
	Adam's Luxury House.
	It's a cottage.
	We didn't get the mansion, by the way.
	That fell through, that wonderful deal.
	That was a scam.
	That was a scam.
	What I liked is you were so jacked up and giddy.
	And just only to have the rug pulled out from underneath while the Texans are going, eh, we got another city slicker.
	Suckered.
	They didn't get no money out of me, though.
	Yet.
	Sir Jason, we want to thank from Marlton, New Jersey, 488.
	Sir Jason here asking for some courtroom karma.
	I need all the help I can get.
	No further comments.
	Keep up the good work.
	Wow, okay.
	Well, of course, we always want to hook a Jersey boy up, and he is coming in with the magic number for the show, 488.
	Thank you very much.
	Here you go with some courtroom karma.
	You've got karma.
	Drone Target 33.
	I think that's a good name for it.
	What was it?
	Drone Target number 33.
	Drone Target.
	Yeah.
	I like it.
	Get some of that paint.
	Adam City Slicker Chateau.
	I think you should get some of that reflective IR paint and put a big X on the roof.
	No, Target.
	Not an X, a Target.
	Adam's City Slicker Chateau.
	The Crackpot Cabana.
	That's not bad.
	That's pretty good.
	I'm liking that one.
	Yeah, the Crackpot Cabana.
	The Bunga Bunga Bungalow.
	No, I don't like that.
	Crackpot Cabana.
	That's kind of cool.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Wilford Kessler in Lebanon, Pennsylvania, 288.
	He'll be associate executive producer for show 488.
	Yesterday evening I went out for a walk in the park with my son.
	No, no, no.
	Wilford is 288.
	I said 288.
	You said 488.
	You said, yeah, okay.
	All right.
	I think you said it wrong.
	It doesn't matter.
	No, no.
	If you listen to the tape, you'll see I said 288.
	Then I said associate executive producer for 488.
	Let me rewind the tape, okay?
	Let me just rewind the reel to reel.
	I'll rewind that tape.
	Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt.
	I just thought you said it wrong.
	Yesterday evening, I went for a walk in the park with my son.
	We noticed someone sitting at a picnic table wearing an I'm not Dorner t-shirt and a no agenda cap.
	This is in Lebanon, Pennsylvania, we should mention.
	Yeah.
	And a no agenda cap worn backwards.
	Hmm.
	As we approached, I could see a wire strung up in the tree.
	A fellow No Agenda ham!
	Awesome!
	He appeared to be operating an SDR rig, and his voice strangely familiar as I muttered something about a repeater.
	I called out to him, ITM, brother!
	What kind of rig are you running there?
	He replied.
	This is my curry fry hooked up to a raspberry pie working some dude's QRP on the JT65. Hey now!
	As he turned his head and winked, I realized it was John.
	At this point, I knew it was a dream and woke in a fever sweat.
	Ha!
	Not before Leo's head appearing shouting, Denier!
	Repu-can in a Reverend Manning voice.
	Ha!
	Geez, what the hell is a NyQuil in these days?
	Just some moving karma for Adam and Mickey, please.
	Hope this SDR project is going well.
	It's going very well, thank you.
	I've connected the Wi-Fi portion, so it actually now, I'm getting a Lego box for my prototype, and so I can put it all in one nice little enclosure, and then I'm going to pitch it to a couple guys and see if we can get it made.
	So I shall be doing a screencast, I guess, of this soon.
	It's pretty cool.
	He needs you to get karma.
	Yeah, we'll take it.
	Thank you.
	You've got karma.
	Sir Philip Flick in Santa Fe, New Mexico, 266-69.
	Hey, Adam and John, my donations recently have been meek.
	It's tricky financing a wedding without the help of paparazzi money.
	But after careful budgeting and plenty of mac and cheese at the eager behest of Her Royal Highness, I'm honored and humbled that to be able to donate to the best podcast in the universe.
	I appreciate hearing some stories about how lousy providers How lousy providers' visits are...
	Yeah, the doctor.
	Doctor.
	Doctor.
	Provider.
	Doctor.
	Oh, okay.
	How lousy providers' visits are and dealings with insurance companies is my situation doesn't seem as bad as it used to be before.
	First off, I'd like to make a special request.
	Since I'm over 6'6", instead of being called Sir Philip Flick at the No Agenda Roundtable, I would instead rather be titled Sir Tallest Knight.
	I don't know about that.
	Yeah, I think...
	Any knights out there that are taller than 6'6", let us know.
	Next, I would like as a mac and cheese Dr.
	Kiki Karma for my upcoming wedding and the success of the CPA exam.
	Sincerely, Sir Tallest Knight.
	You slaves can get used to mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	Cheese macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together.
	Mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	Shut up already!
	Science!
	You've got karma.
	All right.
	$9 comes from the Juiced Riders.
	Tora Harris, actually, from San Diego, California.
	I've been a boner since show one.
	Wow.
	Long-time boner.
	A few shows back, you mentioned a utility bicycle, and that's why no one makes one.
	Well, we make exactly such a thing at Juiced Riders, Inc.
	Oh.
	We even have an electric model that can go over 40 miles on a 10-cent charge.
	Please mention my bike startup.
	JuicedWriters.com.
	We listen all the time in the shop.
	Please de-douche me.
	Most of the guys who have been boners for 488 shows do not get a de-douching.
	And most of them say, I'm not clear yet to be de-douched.
	So you want to give him a dedouching or not?
	Yeah, I'll give him the...
	I'm just looking at his...
	I love the dichotomy.
	They look kind of dorky, these electric bikes.
	I've seen them around.
	Yeah.
	I love the dichotomy of freedom of control.
	That's very funny.
	I like that.
	Yeah, I'll dedouche him.
	I'll give him some karma.
	You've been dedouched.
	You've got karma.
	I love the payload on there.
	It can't be cheap.
	These things have got to be expensive.
	Just the bicycle, it looks kind of...
	What I like is the carrier in the back is really a part of the frame.
	It's a hardcore utility bike.
	It's very nice, actually.
	I've seen these things.
	It's got a battery pack in it.
	It's a nice bike.
	Yeah, I bet you it costs $100.
	What does it cost?
	Let's see.
	$100,000.
	$2,000.
	Yeah, sure.
	That's not what we had in mind.
	Where did we go wrong?
	Nice bike, though.
	I wish you karma with your operation.
	A little too rich for my...
	This is for hipster douchebags.
	Hipster douchebags.
	I mean, seriously.
	JC and Jesse Buzzkill Jr. and his fiancee who spent the last week in- Fiancée?
	He's always been the fiancé.
	Oh, no.
	No, no, no, no.
	You weren't paying attention.
	It was girlfriend before.
	That girlfriend's a better word for me.
	But anyway, let's go back to what I was going to say.
	They were in Detroit for a week.
	Because their father had a birthday or something.
	No, she's from Detroit.
	And he says that the hipsters in the area are all black.
	They're black hipsters.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And they're all over Detroit, and they have a completely different take on everything.
	That, you know, hipsters see things differently.
	They see the world through hipster eyes.
	But the idea of black hipsters, to me, is just unbelievably ludicrous.
	Well, I don't understand.
	I don't see...
	I mean, what do you mean?
	I see hipsters.
	I'm in California.
	We deal with blacks that are around Oakland, and they wouldn't be drinking Pabst Blue Ribbon.
	You're so full of crap.
	What are you talking about?
	There's not a black hipster in the area.
	What are you talking about?
	How about the guy at Mevio who was doing design?
	He was a black hipster.
	I mean, are you insane?
	The designer guy.
	We had black hipsters all the time.
	Anyone who worked in media was a hipster.
	We had Indian hipsters.
	We had Chinese hipsters.
	What are you talking about?
	That's bullshit.
	Do you ever see the show Portlandia where hipsters are highlighted?
	No, I'm sorry.
	I don't have time for that.
	I'm watching C-SPAN. Yeah.
	I'm not sure that you know what a hipster is.
	I certainly do know what a hipster is.
	I challenge your sociological insight on this.
	What is a hipster then?
	Tell me.
	A hipster is someone who is borderline douchebag, but has cooler toys to go with it.
	There is a...
	I'm telling you, but hipster is not determined by cholera.
	I just disagree.
	I don't think that there's...
	I'm saying that there's black hipsters that are in Detroit.
	They're not around here.
	I didn't say there weren't any.
	I just thought it was odd because it doesn't make sense to anyone from California that there'd be a black hipster.
	Yeah, well now you're getting into a socioeconomic conversation where the milieu, as you like to call it, where you travel in just has very few black people.
	You're just, face it, you're Cracker, with Cracker friends and a Cracker milieu.
	And you live in Crackerville.
	In northern Krakenfornia.
	Seriously.
	That's okay.
	I just wanted to find out if you knew what a hipster was, and apparently you don't.
	No, no, no.
	Stop.
	What is a hipster?
	You tell me, then.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Go to Wikipedia.
	No, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	You tell me.
	I am John and Adam.
	It's a bonus time at my job since you two knuckleheads keep me thoroughly educated and entertained while I slave through my day.
	You've earned your piece of the pie.
	Please give my wife a MILF L-G-Y as she is incubating our next human resource and I would assume he wants a karma with that.
	MILF! That's one mother I'd like to.
	Yay!
	You've got karma.
	Um, I'm stunned.
	So I guess, why?
	Did he want it to MILF LGY? I guess LGY has become an acceptable term now.
	I'm just stunned that you're like, I just wanted to see if you knew what a hipster was.
	What is this bullshit?
	I didn't say that.
	That's what you just said!
	No, I said you don't know what a hipster is.
	You just said, I just wanted to see if you knew what a hipster was.
	You literally just said that.
	You have to rewind the tape to prove that to me.
	And I say, well, what is it then?
	I don't know.
	And I'm waiting for you to tell me.
	And you tell me to go to Wikipedia?
	It's a subculture.
	It is extremely complex.
	It's not just some guys with whatever you said, good taste, and they dress well or whatever.
	I didn't say any of that.
	I didn't say any of that.
	Well, it didn't say what you said again.
	I said, it's like a douchebag with better toys.
	That's what I said.
	And then you're like, well, I just wanted to see if you knew it.
	You don't know what a hipster is.
	I just want to see if you know what a hipster is.
	Well, excuse me.
	But I said, I don't think hipster is only white.
	In Detroit, especially after the demise of the city, it's an urban black community.
	So of course you're going to have hipsters there.
	I just didn't understand what you were saying.
	And now it's like, you don't know what a hipster is.
	You can't tell me either.
	Well, I'll read it from the Urban Dictionary.
	Well, okay, if you want to cheat, sure.
	Of course.
	Okay.
	I told you, it's a complex subculture.
	It's nothing you can just say two things.
	They're douchebags with better toys.
	I mean, that is not what a hipster is.
	I mean, I understand what a douchebag with better toys is, but that seems more like a Silicon Valley guy.
	They're all that.
	Okay, then tell me what it is.
	You know, you actually have to read it.
	This is longer than the longest messages.
	You really have to read this.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I can spot a hipster when I see one.
	We have a bunch of hipster bars in Berkeley.
	Anyway, thank you all very much.
	In their 20s and 30s, they value independent thinking, counterculture, progressive politics, an appreciation of art and indie rock, creativity and intelligence, and witty banter.
	That's not my best definition either.
	The greatest concentrations of hipsters are found living in Williamsburg, Wicker Park, and the Mission District in San Francisco.
	And all of Portland, I might add, which is not in here.
	This is not a good definition.
	I'm done with it.
	I'm tired.
	I don't care.
	Good.
	You brought up this thing in the middle of the donation segment.
	I was going to tell you some funny stuff that he came across, but you wouldn't let me.
	It's not funny.
	Black hipsters, they're all over the place.
	They're everywhere.
	And it completely, whatever I was going to say is...
	You don't even remember what you were going to say.
	Okay.
	You said it.
	You said all the hipsters were black.
	And I was like, that's what you interrupted the donation segment for?
	I'm sorry.
	That's all?
	And there was more?
	There was something related to it?
	I just didn't get it.
	Yeah, because you wouldn't let me finish.
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	Well, if you're a hipster or not, you can always go out and propagate the formula, put your hat on backwards.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	New.
	World.
	Order.
	Shut up.
	Sleep.
	Okay, I got one for you.
	I have an Ask Adam.
	Oh, gee, I don't know.
	I'm not really feeling the love right now.
	Okay.
	We won't do it then.
	You know, because I'm not letting you say whatever incredibly funny thing you're going to say, and I'm denying you.
	Oh, quit mickering.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So while you were doing, while you're sitting there sulking for some unknown reason, and by the way, you could look up the hipster and doula research.
	I was spending all my time listening to the hearings on the military budget, and I have never seen anything like these guys complaining bitterly.
	but in the process of listening to all the hearings, I found out a couple of interesting things, because these guys can't stop talking, and so they...
	Kind of throw in certain kinds of weird information out of the blue.
	And I got a couple of clips here.
	Maybe you can figure this out.
	But play the talking too much clip and tell me what this might be about.
	Yeah, thanks, Senator.
	And I should mention, by the way, that in addition to the effect in the Pacific of the Army, we're also in the process of moving significant Marine, United States Marine Corps forces, into the Pacific, and General Amos can speak to that.
	What?
	They're moving the Marines to the Pacific?
	Why?
	I don't know.
	I thought that was peculiar.
	But I also thought it was peculiar that he's talking out of class.
	You know, unlike your snide remark, I did watch these hearings all day, actually, as I was packing.
	And the only thing that was going on, well, there's only two things going on here.
	One is someone at some point in the history of the United States Armed Forces decided it would be cooler if the general's epaulets were, instead of on their shoulders, were going over their shoulders.
	I don't know when this started, but it makes them look very cool like they're in Starfleet Command or something.
	So this is the one thing that's happened.
	The second thing is they're all up there bullshitting about cuts in their increase in spending, and they're trying to frighten everyone by saying, oh...
	We won't have a war machine.
	We won't be able to protect the homeland.
	Oh, the terrorists are gonna get the airplanes.
	It's all gonna become crashing down.
	We're all gonna die if you sequester us.
	That's all I saw over and over and over again.
	Yes, exactly.
	Yeah.
	But here's a couple different ones.
	I got these guys.
	These guys are whining, and you have to realize that the sequester...
	Well, let's get the actual...
	What is the number of...
	Play 46 billion is the number.
	Okay.
	For some reason, my pad is not cooperating.
	The problem comes in two tiers.
	The first is that sequestration, which is scheduled to kick in in just two weeks' time, requires us to subtract from our budget for the remainder of fiscal year 13 $46 billion.
	Okay.
	Now, if you keep that in mind and you realize that the budget for 2013 is $615 billion, That is 7%.
	Right.
	So now, play Air Force 30% and try to deconstruct what they're saying.
	If it's 7%, why are they going nuts?
	That deprives our Air Force of over 31.5 million man-hours of productivity and specialized expertise this year.
	It will result in a loss of over 200,000 flying hours.
	While we will protect flying operations in Afghanistan and other contingency areas, nuclear deterrence and initial flight training, Roughly two-thirds of our active-duty combat Air Force units will curtail home station training beginning in March and will drop below acceptable readiness levels by mid-May.
	Most will be completely non-mission capable by July.
	Sequestration will cut 30% of our remaining weapon system sustainment funds, which means we'll need to postpone approximately 150 aircraft and 85 engines from depot induction, creating a backlog that could take years for us to recover.
	The Air Force's global vigilance, reach, and power make it one of America's premier asymmetric advantages.
	But strategic agility and responsiveness require a high state of readiness.
	Sacrificing that readiness jeopardizes the many strategic advantages of air power.
	And from a parochial Air Force perspective, sequestration will have an immediate effect on our ability to respond to multiple concurrent operations around the globe, something we've been asked to do many times in the past along with our sister services.
	Longer term, sequestration cuts to Air Force modernization will impact every one of our investment programs.
	These program disruptions will, over time, cost more taxpayer dollars to rectify contract breaches and time delay inefficiencies, raise unit costs, and delay delivery of validated capabilities to warfighters in the field. - You're all going to die.
	He's going to die.
	We're all going to die.
	7%.
	How does 7% equate to cutting back everything by two-thirds and then firing 30% of everybody?
	Get a pen and try to explain to me how 7% equates to what he just said.
	No, it doesn't.
	And the whole thing is, and there was repeats of it this morning, it's just irksome.
	It's just irksome that people are sitting up there lying and, I mean, it's, come on, man, it's a freaking show.
	They're in Congress and people are just asking them stupid questions.
	They don't give a crap.
	Have you watched House of Cards yet?
	Have you been able to see that?
	Have you seen the episode?
	This would be like number 78 of people.
	I go to see my doctor, just a regular routine appointment, and he asks me if I've seen House of Cards.
	Your provider.
	It's supposed to be the most popular show in the world.
	Your provider, you mean?
	My provider.
	Yes, your provider.
	Well, no, but it specifically shows you how it works, which bases get closed.
	Look, they're not even lying about it.
	The military industrial complex is the single largest employer ever.
	In the United States and maybe in the universe.
	I mean, this is our economy.
	This is everything.
	So when it's 200, you know, and look, it's an across-the-board cut.
	So it's just like you don't get to, like, you know, get rid of a couple drones.
	You know, it's everything.
	It's employment.
	So, of course, this has been the setup from day one.
	I'm convinced the United States is meant to go into a spiral.
	And this, by the way, was the president's idea.
	It was his idea, this sequestration.
	Now he denies it.
	It's his idea.
	I mean, come on, we all saw it.
	We all heard it.
	It was his idea.
	And he is the antichrist here to take us down into the blackest hole of death.
	So here's the undersecretary of state.
	Now again, we remember 7%.
	7%.
	Somehow he equates this with 20%.
	Wait a minute.
	And then, by the way, then he's going to become a martyr, and I guarantee he'll never do what he says in this one-fifth give-back clip.
	Oh, here it is.
	Okay.
	To institute a process of furloughing them, which we will do consistent with the law and our requirements to you, but the net of it is that many of them will be furloughed for as many as 22 days before now, before April 1st, say, and the end of the year.
	In other words, a fifth of their paycheck.
	Go on.
	So that's a real human impact.
	And I've said, I can't be furloughed under the law because I'm a presidential appointee.
	But I'm going to give back a fifth of my salary in the last seven months of the year if other people in the department are getting sequestered.
	Bull crap.
	So, one-fifth of your salary is 20%.
	How does that equate to the 7%, which is the calculation of what the sequester is?
	Alright, so now I understand why you mock me and all this.
	Because you did all this work.
	I should have just let you start the show every single time so that you're in the right mind frame.
	Move it along.
	I get it.
	They're lying.
	What's the next lie?
	Okay, well I just want to do the big lie then.
	Okay.
	Okay, we have a defense budget of $618 billion.
	Play the $687 billion clip.
	I understand, Mr.
	Chairman, and I've long understood that the Department of Defense must contribute to the resolution of the nation's fiscal situation.
	And that is why we have accommodated $487 billion in cuts.
	Last year.
	What?
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	Let me play that back.
	Let me rewind the tape.
	Hold on.
	Dollars.
	Crap.
	I have to rewind even further.
	Situation.
	And that is why we have accommodated $487 billion.
	In cuts.
	Maybe he's talking about over a 10-year period.
	Because that's what it seems to be.
	He specifically says last year.
	Last year.
	Yeah, but I think he's saying that last year they accommodated for the $487 billion in cuts over a 10-year period.
	But it sounds good this way.
	And before that, Undersecretary Gates made several hundred billion dollars of additional cuts in defense spending, largely by removing unneeded or underperforming programs.
	We're also making, as you referenced...
	Hold on a second.
	So he says there's another $200 billion that we've taken out of the budget for unnecessary programs.
	How is that a cut?
	Hey, I have a house across the street that's burning to the ground.
	I think I should sell it because I never go there.
	I never use it.
	It's not necessary that I own it.
	Yeah.
	It's bullcrap.
	Yeah.
	But it's not getting any play, you see, because we've had asteroids exploding and people pooping in bags on ship decks on the poop deck.
	No one cares.
	No one cares anymore.
	They don't care.
	So the question has always been on my mind.
	I've got two more things to point out here.
	The question has always been on my mind is why the Republicans...
	Turn on one of their own, Chuck Hagel.
	Oh, because he's an a-hole and the guy is a confused baboon.
	I think you've bought into it.
	Well, my...
	For one thing, one of the things that keeps coming up, oh, well, he doesn't know how to manage his way out of a paper bag.
	This is the world's biggest corporation.
	He doesn't know how to manage anything.
	It's a figurehead job.
	No, I think something else.
	What I actually believe is that...
	This guy is meant to fail.
	They've got someone waiting in the wings.
	It's kind of the Condoleezza Rice, the Susan Rice strategy.
	Let someone, you know, throw someone out there who's meant to fail and then pop up someone.
	You know, because John Kerry, boom, he got confirmed.
	The guy's in.
	That took no time at all for that big waterhead to get in there.
	And immediately, you know, they turned around and his wife sold everything to Buffett.
	It's all coincidental, I'm sure.
	I think it's because the guy's a threat.
	And this is an interesting part of the hearings.
	Mike Lee, that guy from Utah, who I think is just hilarious, he brought up something that, first of all, this is the Senate, so the Senate's run by the Democrats, so they won't give any Republican much time to do anything.
	So Mike Lee has told them, make sure he's within the time frame because they've got to get to this woman who just comes on and essentially does everything short of...
	I mean, she just throws roses at these guys and they rush to her.
	So he's asked actually a really good question.
	He gets it out of his mouth within one minute and ten seconds, according to the tape.
	And...
	He asked for this Joint Chiefs to say something about this.
	They never do that associate, that assistant secretary, the undersecretary, the guy who just said that they saved $687 billion last year.
	He hogs the next two minutes with a bunch of bullshit, which I cut short.
	I just cut it off.
	But what's really funny is when he asks the question and he asks the Joint Chiefs to say something, they all kind of giggle.
	So this is the Mike Lee versus clip?
	Yeah.
	Question.
	So please, if you would, Senator Lee, stick right to that.
	So Senator Gillibrand will be next.
	Great.
	Thank you very much, Mr.
	Chairman.
	And I will be as brief as I can possibly be here.
	In December 2012...
	Senator Chuck Hagel, the nominee to become the Secretary of Defense, sat for an interview with Financial Times.
	And when he was asked about outgoing Secretary Panetta's comments that budget sequestration would be disastrous to national defense, Senator Hagel replied as follows.
	The Defense Department, I think in many ways, has been bloated.
	The Defense Department has gotten everything it's wanted.
	The last ten years and more, we've taken priorities, we've taken dollars, we've taken programs, we've taken policies out of the State Department, out of a number of other departments, and put them over in defense.
	The abuse and waste and the fraud is astounding.
	I think the Pentagon needs to be pared down.
	I think we need the Pentagon to look at their own priorities.
	We are pressed for time, so I would, if I could, like to have each of the Joint Chiefs go down the line and just briefly, if you can answer with a yes or no, answer whether you agree with this general characterization that Senator Hagel made.
	That'd be great Let me have not remember the joint cheese, so let me let me try it It's a good question.
	It's a fair question.
	And I can't speak for Senator Hagel, but...
	Okay, a little anticlimactic.
	So he doesn't, I know, because all he does is drone on about nothing, and then the time is done, and not one joint chief guy, any of the chiefs of any of the armed forces says anything.
	It's prediction time on the McLaughlin Group.
	Predictions, John C. DeBarack, what do you think will happen?
	Nothing?
	No, I mean, you have to, so they have like 10 days or two weeks or whatever, and then if we haven't worked out, which will not happen, I'm sure, then sequestration goes in.
	So what do you think?
	Will it be another kick the can down the road?
	That's my bet.
	Yeah, yeah.
	How will they do it this time, though?
	Just with some new phony baloney legislation?
	I have no idea.
	They always have a new trick up their sleeves.
	Well, this is what we were warned for.
	We were warned about the military-industrial complex.
	And here you are.
	It's taken over.
	In 2001...
	Donald Rumsfeld, the day before 9-11, said, hey, there's $2 trillion unaccounted for at the Pentagon.
	And, of course, there's still no audit.
	No one knows what's going on.
	But here in the United States of Gitmo Nation, we're perfectly happy with that.
	Because, you know, we've got our house of cards on our Netflix, and we can go see the fake version of what's going on.
	And everyone is pacified, and the history is told through the telescreens.
	Lincoln, that's exactly how it went down.
	We're going to put that DVD into all the schools and teach all the little slaves exactly how it's working.
	Except for the few people, and I say few, who listen to this program, and there are others, but not many, and we're dwindling.
	And understand that you are totally living inside the matrix and this is all one big show.
	So watching this and then playing the clips, you know, to cut them down a little bit, something emerged that I thought was another thing out of class that I didn't know about this.
	I've heard about it.
	It's like kind of baffling.
	We know about the New World Order and all this sort of thing, but there's this thing called the defense strategy, and I have three clips.
	This is the first time it was mentioned, or the second, one of the two, but this is the first mention I have here.
	First mention of a defense strategy, and that kind of piqued my interest.
	Okay.
	...term, which you have this year in the next few months, is a true crisis in military readiness.
	If the caps imposed that accompany sequester are continued for the next ten years, as is The plan in the Budget Control Act, we were going to have to change our national defense strategy.
	Those cuts are too large, too sustained for us to implement the strategy that we crafted under the President's guidance just one year ago.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	Is this a Gantt chart I have missed somewhere?
	Yeah, I think you have.
	Is there a PowerPoint of this defense strategy?
	Here's what I think the strategy is.
	It's a big funnel, and that funnel is all of the human resources of America go in that funnel, and there's meat, pink slime comes out the bottom, which feeds their machine.
	Well, that's possible, but that's not it, it turns out.
	Let's play the second mention, again, of the defense strategy.
	Apparently, they're really preoccupied.
	This is the problem, whatever this is.
	Of equal concern, we will irreversibly damage the industrial base that we depend upon to build and maintain our ships and aircraft.
	Under these circumstances, we assess your Navy will be limited in its ability to provide the capability and capacity called for in the current defense strategy.
	The Navy will be unable to execute all the naval force requirements of the combatant commanders.
	Yeah, the National Defense Strategy seems to be out there.
	Seems to be very clear what this is.
	Right, and it turns out that the Marine guy, who seems to be just a stiff character, is just very serious about everything, he outlines a defense strategy that I didn't know he had.
	In which tape does he do this?
	It says, Defense Strategy Outlined.
	Ooh, that one.
	Risk.
	Risk.
	Risk to our strategy, risk to our forces, risk to our people, and lastly, risk to our nation.
	Regarding strategy, maintaining a free international economic system and a just international order are linchpins to our defense strategic guidance.
	Heil everybody!
	The effects of disruption to this global order are readily observed.
	You can see the effects of the global order being disturbed.
	In roller coaster energy prices, fluctuating global markets, sovereign behavior, and economic uncertainty.
	You must stop with sovereign behavior.
	You must all give your sovereignty to us.
	Failing to provide leadership and the collective security of this global order would have significant economic consequences for the American people.
	Worse, a lapse in American leadership would create a void in which old threats would be unaddressed and new security challenges would find room to grow.
	All right, here it is.
	By the way...
	I wasn't ready for it.
	Now, wait a minute.
	Shhh, shhh, shhh, shhh, shhh.
	Clip of the day.
	That is an evergreen.
	That is an evergreen.
	This is, I mean, this is, it's Hitler.
	This guy is Hitler.
	Literally.
	Global order.
	But do you hear what he's saying?
	Yes, I know.
	And by the way, if I clipped the rest of this, which went on and on, this was the main part.
	He uses the same sovereignty gag you just said.
	He says the sovereignty issue is a problem.
	In other words, these other countries, people have to kowtow to us on the new global order so we keep our prices low.
	That's unbelievable.
	Yeah, this is it.
	This, ladies and gentlemen, this is the true president of the United States speaking to you.
	Who is this guy?
	This is the head of the chief of the Marines.
	Oh, okay.
	He's the big boss.
	He knows what's going on.
	Well, he shouldn't have said this.
	I thought that he was out of school or whatever the term is where you're talking outside the ring and you're letting the truth out.
	Oops.
	No, but it's a written statement.
	He's reading from a written statement.
	It's obvious that he's reading.
	But I mean, you know what?
	Do you mind if we just do it again and take it bit by bit?
	Because this is...
	This is the way the President of the United States really is representing.
	He is, of course, all presidents are figureheads.
	These are the guys who really run the show.
	By the way, coincidentally, the ones who have all the guns.
	Risk.
	Let's just listen to it again.
	Risk to our strategy, risk to our forces, risk to our people, and lastly, risk to our nation.
	So, notice who's last.
	The nation.
	It's risk to his strategy, risk to his people, risk to his arms, risk to all of his stuff.
	And then lastly, he even says, and then lastly, the bottom, you know, right behind where I poop on, that's the nation.
	So this is the arrogance and the hubris of this cocksucker.
	Regarding strategy, maintaining a free international economic system and a just international order are linchpins to our defense strategic guidance.
	Now, when he says free, does he mean like free as in beer?
	Or does he mean free as in our way?
	What do you think?
	You know, this whole thing was...
	I've listened to this clip a lot myself, and it's like...
	It's just the weirdest thing I've ever heard that...
	I don't know what he means.
	I think the word free...
	There's no freedom.
	Essentially, we're forcing...
	This is the old, well, as long as they form a democracy that we approve of, we'll make sure that the right guy gets elected.
	Exactly.
	That's exactly what it is.
	It's like, you will be free.
	Freedom is slavery.
	Slavery is freedom.
	Black is white.
	This is doublespeak.
	So free means you have to be free of tyrants and whatever else we can free you from.
	That's what I totally agree.
	The effects of disruption to this global order are readily observed in rollercoaster energy prices, fluctuating global markets, sovereign behavior, and economic uncertainty.
	So, first of all...
	Sovereign behavior.
	Here's two things were in there.
	One...
	Screw the free market because this causes these up and down spikes in prices.
	Crazy roller coaster.
	Which is what a free market capitalist system does.
	Exactly.
	Always.
	We can't have that.
	He should be blowing up the gas station dudes.
	The refineries.
	I mean, they're setting the prices.
	And another bad thing he mentions, that little clip you should play again.
	Sovereign behavior.
	Don't be so...
	Are you crazy?
	Are you trying to be sovereign?
	So this means a number of things.
	Can I tell you that there's a double meaning to this?
	Have you heard of the Sovereign Man movement?
	Yeah.
	That's part of this.
	I'm telling you.
	Because, of course, you're sovereign.
	I'm sovereign.
	Every human being should be a sovereign person.
	This will get us droned.
	It's a problem that people are behaving like they're sovereign.
	Not just nations.
	Because he doesn't say sovereign nations or just say sovereign behavior?
	Sovereign behavior.
	So if you're just trying to be a sovereign human being, you need to submit.
	Risk.
	Risk to our strategy.
	Risk to our forces.
	Risk to our people.
	Sorry, I went back.
	I rewound the tape a little too far, but it's good.
	And lastly, risk to our nation regarding strategy.
	He uses the word lastly.
	Lastly.
	Yeah, I told you.
	It's like lastly, the bottom, underneath the poop.
	Maintaining a free international economic system and a just international order are linchpins.
	I love the just international order.
	Just.
	It's got to be fair and righteous and just according to our rules.
	For defense strategic guidance.
	The effects of disruption to this global order are readily observed in rollercoaster energy prices fluctuating global markets, sovereign behavior, and economic uncertainty.
	I'm telling you, sovereign behavior, he's talking about people trying to be...
	And he's not talking about countries.
	This is...
	You're right.
	This is the drone clause.
	Failing to provide leadership and the collective security of this global order...
	We are coming for your bicycles.
	Would have significant economic consequences for the American people.
	Wow.
	Worse, a lapse in American leadership would create a void in which old threats would be unaddressed and new security challenges would find room to grow.
	Now, this is very interesting.
	This, I think, is something big.
	He's saying the lack of leadership, in other words, you know, if we get rid of the president, or if the president, lame duck, basically the president has no say in the matter, then I think he's saying That, you know, there will be chaos or, you know, like martial law or, you know, one of the...
	This is the stuff that makes people crazy, by the way, this kind of talk.
	Consequences for the American people.
	Okay, help me with this last bit, John.
	Before you go into that deconstruction, there's something he said in there I just thought of that...
	He says...
	The basis of what he's even talking about is the sequestration.
	And the other guy, same thing, is going to screw up this so-called defense strategy, which is not a defense strategy.
	It's a very aggressive...
	It's a money-making strategy.
	Well, you just call something a strategy.
	Or defense is really offense, an offensive strategy.
	He says...
	Yeah, go kick everyone's ass and take their shit.
	He says that there's this crazy fluctuations.
	Wait a minute.
	In the gas prices, for example.
	It's crazy.
	We've got to stop that.
	But they're already, right as we speak, all the fluctuations have taken place before the sequestration.
	So they haven't done anything about it.
	In other words, we had the big budget, and then the gas prices are flying around, which is no good.
	And now the gas prices are going to start flying around, which is no good if they take some more money away from us.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	That's not true.
	I think he's saying something different.
	I think he clearly said that we're seeing evidence of this lack of leadership is already leading to...
	What we have in the world and we need to continue on the path, our strategy to stop the crazy free market system and the sovereign citizen system, the sovereign citizen movement.
	We have to stop that.
	That's what I'm hearing him say.
	It's like we're on a mission.
	This is the mission.
	This is why we're in Africa.
	This is why we're all over Asia.
	This is why we're all over the Middle East.
	These guys truly believe that in order for America to For America, their America, their stars and stripes and apple pie and no anal sex America, that that has to be...
	We have to have calm and peace and smooth sailing and a glass ocean and a nice breeze and none of this crazy stuff that is caused by arabs.
	I mean, these guys are insane, John.
	This guy should be taken out of his job immediately and locked in irons.
	These people are dangerous.
	And here's the kicker, kind of, this guy, the head of the chief of the Marines, the chief of staff of the Marines.
	The earlier clip by the Joint Chiefs of Staff head, the little guy, Gabby Hayes, they're moving the Marines to Asia?
	Remember the earlier clip?
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	Something is up.
	The Mediterranean, specifically, I thought he said.
	I thought it was the Mediterranean.
	No, no.
	He says they're moving the Marines to Asia.
	Let's just listen to it again.
	Yeah, thanks, Senator.
	And I should mention, by the way, that in addition to the effect in the Pacific of the Army, we're also in the process of moving significant Marine, United States Marine Corps forces, into the Pacific, and General Amos can speak to that.
	Oh, the Pacific, okay.
	Well, they're training with the Japanese, so I'm pretty sure that we're training with the Japanese, right?
	Did you know that Hillary was apparently over in Japan as one of her last missions to goad the Japanese to changing their constitution so they can have a full-blown army?
	In other words, right now they can only have defensive forces and now they're considering...
	Instead of the DOD, it should be the DOO. I like what you said.
	There's the Department of Offense.
	We don't have a Department of Defense.
	We have a Department of Offense.
	Well, it used to be a Department of Offense.
	Oh, really?
	It was called the War Department.
	Oh, well, we need that again.
	I think so.
	Why don't you just go back and call the Department of Defense the War Department, which it used to be called...
	Well, we didn't have any wars.
	Department of Krieg?
	The Krieg?
	The Krieg Department!
	I don't know.
	What was it called?
	The War Department.
	War Department, right.
	Well, let's just call it War Department, then.
	These people are dangerously insane.
	Let me play the last ten minutes where he's saying that it's all going to go to shit.
	Worse, the lapse in American leadership would create a void in which old threats would be unaddressed.
	Okay, so I get it.
	So the lapse in American leadership.
	Leadership, he means killing people offensively all over the globe.
	That's his version of leadership.
	So if we don't lead the forces in stopping these free markets of energy and everything and minerals, if we don't lead in that as leaders, as leaders of the killers of the world, then old problems like the old stuff, like the communists, I guess.
	The commies are going to come and get us.
	And Al-Qaeda, and we'll have terrorists all over the place.
	That's what I'm hearing him say.
	And new security challenges would find room to grow.
	And the homeland would be very unsafe.
	The Department of War has spoken.
	Insane.
	It's just...
	I'm so ashamed.
	I'm deeply ashamed.
	I'm ashamed.
	Yeah, well, the way things are going, we're going to have to cut your salary by one-fifth.
	Which is 7%.
	Hold on, I got something for you.
	Are you ironic?
	Do you have a beard?
	Are you currently wearing jeans that you stole from your little sister's wardrobe in a V-neck lower than the U.S. economy?
	If so, talk to your doctor.
	If you are experiencing some, none, or all of these symptoms, you may be suffering from Hyper-Involuntary Panic Stress Intention Elevation Response Disorder, or Hipster.
	Hipster affects men and women between the ages of 16 and 35 and is one of the leading causes of scarf-wearing, blogging, buying vinyl, and ordering fair trade.
	In extreme cases, hipster can be found in men as old as 40 living in their mom's basement.
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	The douchebag part.
	Right, the douchebaggery with toys.
	Well, you got a staff?
	Who came up with that?
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	This has been around for a while.
	I just never had a reason to play it.
	You never heard of it?
	You never seen this video?
	No.
	Oh, it's pretty good.
	Anyway, so we're screwed.
	Yeah.
	I have to say that I don't know why.
	There was something.
	I just turned that thing on.
	Something caught my attention that I knew there was a gem in there somewhere.
	And that marine guy.
	No, no.
	This is possibly a clip of the year to date.
	I mean, I don't know about that.
	Oh, come on.
	Global order.
	No, no, it's not even that.
	I just put it into the evergreen bin.
	We've got to bring this one out from time to time.
	When we're out there stopping the crazy rollercoaster oil prices, when we're doing that, of course, how's gas doing, by the way?
	It went up again.
	Well, of course, the president talked about gas for like 10 minutes during the State of the Union.
	Yeah, it went up about 20 cents.
	How come he didn't, I'm not saying, so gas, liquid gas, liquid natural gas is what I'm talking about.
	Oh no, that stuff is weird.
	That is a perpetual depression.
	It's actually ridiculously cheap.
	Is it still under $3?
	Is that where, because it has to be over $3 for them to make money.
	We know this.
	Let's see.
	Let's just take a look.
	Because, you know, I'd have to say it was pretty unreal that the president not once mentioned nuclear energy in his State of the Union.
	Yeah, it's $3.15, but it dropped a little bit.
	A penny.
	Okay.
	I have seen the gasoline prices go up.
	It was $3.11 before we, like a month ago.
	I just bought some gas, $4.30.
	Yeah, well, you're in California.
	And now it's $3.50.
	Anyway.
	Gold's down $26.
	Time to buy.
	It's a buying opportunity.
	Anyway, I wanted to...
	So this has been kind of an interesting show so far.
	I'm sorry.
	I have some hipster thing.
	A hipster toy is going off in the background.
	I want to take just a moment here to play this little clip.
	It was sent to us by one of our producers.
	I think you received it as well.
	This is a great clip from the 50s.
	Maybe, it's got to be late 50s, I guess, of Rod Serling.
	Did you see the clip that was sent to us by our...
	Yeah, it was part of one of his old interviews.
	It was quite interesting.
	Is this the one about how he...
	Yeah, this is a good clip.
	So actually, this is before he...
	Before the Twilight, because he was a producer, actor, writer.
	Before the Twilight Zone, which he's most famous for, I guess.
	What other things did Rod Serling do?
	He must have...
	He took him for a heavyweight.
	He won a crapload of awards for his dramas.
	I mean, the guy was awesome.
	And it's cool because it's funny.
	Mickey was taking some stuff off the wall while I'm recording this clip.
	And she says he couldn't see it.
	But she said, wow, the guy really talks old-fashioned.
	I said, yeah, this is an interview from 1950.
	She said, oh, wow.
	Because it is kind of that 1950s vibe.
	And I think he's talking to, who's the big CBS guy?
	Morrow?
	I don't know who he's talking to.
	If it was in color, it wasn't Morrow.
	No, it was black and white.
	And he's smoking on camera, too, which is kind of cool.
	Yeah, well, he died of smoking.
	Yeah, but it's still cool that he's just smoking on camera.
	I know, they used to all do that.
	He used to smoke on his intro on the Twilight Zone.
	He came out smoking.
	I mean, can't you put it down for one minute, Rod?
	So this is from the more things change, the more they stay the same.
	1950s, and one of the reasons why we have our value-for-value model here on No Agenda.
	Precensorship is a practice, I think, of most television writers.
	I can't speak for all of them.
	Actually, it's Mike Wallace.
	Prior knowledge of the writer.
	Of those areas which are difficult to try to get through.
	And so a writer will shy away from writing those things which he knows he's going to have trouble with on a sponsorial or an agency level.
	Exactly.
	We practice it all the time.
	We just do not write those themes which we know are going to get into trouble.
	Who's the culprit?
	Is it the network?
	The sponsor?
	Which sure is not the FCC. No, it's certainly not the FCC, ideally speaking, of course.
	It's a combination of culprits in this case, Mike.
	It's partly network.
	It's principally agency and sponsor.
	In many ways, I think it's the audience themselves.
	How do you mean?
	Well, I'll give you an example.
	About a year ago, roughly 11 or 12 months ago, on the Lassie Show, this is a story usually told by Sheldon Leonard, who was then associated with the show.
	Lassie was having puppies.
	And I have two little girls, then age five and three, who are greatly enamored of this beautiful collie.
	And they watched the show with great interest.
	And Lassie gave birth to puppies.
	And Mike, it was probably one of the most tasteful and delightful and warm things depicting what is this wondrous thing at his birth.
	And after the show, I think there were many congratulations all around because it was a lovely show.
	The sort of thing I'd love my kids to watch, to show them what is the birth process and how marvelous it is.
	They got many, many cards and letters.
	Sample card from the Deep South, this was.
	If I wanted my kids to watch sex shows, I wouldn't have had a turn on that.
	I could take them to burlesque shows.
	And as a result of the influx of mail, many of the cards, incidentally, as Sheldon tells it, were postmarked at identical moments, all in the same handwriting, but each was counted as a singular piece of mail.
	And as a result, the directive went down that there would be no shows having anything to do with puppies, that is, in the actual birth process.
	Well, obviously, it is this wild lunatic fringe of letter writers that greatly affect what the sponsor has in mind.
	You can understand the position of the sponsor.
	In many ways, I suppose I can.
	He's there to push a product.
	He has a considerable stake, does, in what goes on the air.
	Most assuredly.
	And in those cases, where there is a problem of public taste, in which there is a concern for eliciting negative response from a large mass of people, I can understand why the guys are frightened.
	I don't understand, Mike, for example, Other evidences and instances of intrusion by sponsors, for example, on Playhouse 90, not a year ago, a lovely show called Judgment of Nuremberg.
	I think probably one of the most competently done and artistically done pieces that 90's done all year.
	In it, as you recall, mentioned was made of gas chambers, and the line was deleted, cut off the soundtrack.
	And it mattered little to these guys that the gas involved in concentration camps was cyanide, which bore no resemblance, physical or otherwise, to the gas used in stone.
	They cut the line.
	Because the sponsor was...
	We did not want that awful association made between what was the horror and the misery of Nazi Germany with the nice, chrome, wonderfully, antiseptically clean, beautiful kitchen appliances that they were selling.
	Now, this is an example of sponsor interference, which is so beyond logic and which is so beyond taste.
	This I rebel against.
	You've got a new series coming up called The Twilight Zone.
	So, of course, the most important part of that piece is really at the beginning where he talks about the pre-censorship where these topics just not even broached.
	They just don't even come up.
	Just not even...
	Because it'll never work.
	You can't say that.
	You can't air that.
	You can't do this.
	You can't do that.
	And if you do, then, well, look, they will have letter writers, which, of course, is all bullcrap, but people go after the sponsors.
	No, and I've talked about this a lot as a writer.
	And because people always like, you know, the argument is, well, you know, Microsoft is telling you guys what to write.
	And by the way, Microsoft's not the worst actor in this kind of thing.
	And then you say, and it's really ironic that people would say, always cite Microsoft, especially when you write for PC Magazine.
	Because Microsoft was one of the lousiest advertisers.
	They never advertise.
	They don't have any push at all.
	But anyway, what they do have is a lot of public relations guys that used to.
	They don't do this much anymore.
	I think this is really hurting them.
	But they used to hound the editor.
	How can you run that guy's stuff?
	So there's a point where you can come out and honestly say, for example, as a writer, you can honestly say, I have never been told ever...
	What to write.
	But then again, you have some stuff that's rejected occasionally, and then you can kind of figure out what not to write.
	But you can always say that, honestly, because most of the time you're just self-censoring.
	You just say, what's the point of my wasting my time turning this in when it's going to get kicked back?
	I'm going to have to write something else.
	Right, which, by the way, when the whole download fiasco happened with Apple's iOS 6, you even said that to me.
	Because I said, look, here's the evidence.
	Here's what's going on.
	Here's how the logs work.
	They've changed their TCP stack.
	They've got all kinds of shit going wrong on the inside with their iPhone, and it's costing us money.
	It's costing all kinds of people headaches and money and problems.
	And I think you literally said, you know, what's the point of trying to write a column?
	They're just going to knock it away.
	And Apple won't answer, and it'll never happen.
	It's just not going to happen.
	Right.
	Well, this is another secondary effect, which I should mention to people who want the inside scoop.
	Which is you will occasionally have something like that piece, which I wasn't going to write like you said.
	I just wasn't going to write.
	And the reason is because this kind of thing, and you want to put it in a high profile spot, but it goes like this.
	This is an interesting thing you've done.
	Did you get response from Apple?
	Yeah.
	And you call out, but you got to get a response.
	So you put, you could say, yeah, they won't call me back.
	Well, give it, try somebody else.
	You got, sure, you can get somebody to say something.
	They won't say anything.
	In fact, you had contact over there.
	They wouldn't even talk to you and you weren't writing anything.
	Yeah.
	And so then you had to get some.
	Well, I was calling them assholes.
	That might have.
	And then you had to document.
	Can you prove this?
	You start getting grilled about the details because it's more than just a simple opinion.
	When you do accusatory writing, you have to have some...
	Time to do it.
	And they don't pay anybody anymore.
	None of the newspapers do.
	None of the magazines, for sure.
	They don't pay anybody enough to spend days and days and days researching something.
	It is a loser of an idea.
	And then it doesn't have any effect because Apple fixes the thing eventually anyway.
	So what did you accomplish?
	Did you make them go faster?
	Did you embarrass the company?
	Was that the idea, just to try to humiliate them?
	I mean, it's a waste of time, and that's the way all the media works.
	The only reason that this show is so good is because we have no constraints.
	I mean, we can bicker about hipsterism for 10 minutes, and it's too bad.
	And the good news is you can fast-forward, and you can rewind the tape.
	You can play that clip from the general a million times if you want to.
	But we don't have these kinds of constraints and we just talk.
	And, you know, there's occasional cursing and nobody cares.
	There's some podcasts where it seems to me that's all they do, which I find annoying, by the way.
	Well, what is highly interesting is that our politicians, our leaders, do not...
	Are not interested in our type of media.
	In fact, we are the enemy.
	We're the enemy.
	Just a quick clip here from our Vice President, Joe O'Biden, as he speaks to the media about his message for gun control.
	Now, again, this is not about his message about gun violence, gun control, gun laws, etc., but it is what he is interested, who he's interested in communicating with.
	I supported assault weapons ban, the original Biden crime bill is where it got passed.
	Well, when I ran for office, I was told a lot of money was spent saying I was taking everybody's shotgun.
	And it was all about your shotgun.
	Well, that's a bunch of malarkey.
	I know that's a word you've never heard before.
	Although it's now in the dictionary.
	But that's just simply not true.
	And to be very blunt with you, we're counting on all of you, the legitimate news media to cover these discussions.
	Oh, the legitimate news media, John.
	Oh, that was a good catch.
	Legitimate news media.
	Once you mention it, it's so, so obvious what he just did.
	First, he makes them all laugh, right, with his little joke.
	I mean, the guy is very good at it.
	He uses his little malarkey clip, and they say, oh, and by the way, it's in the dictionary now, because I, Joe Biden, made that word up, which he didn't.
	Malarkey has been used forever.
	But okay, so now it's his word, like Al Gore invented the internet.
	And then it's like, oh, you know, but I'm counting on you.
	The legitimate media who I laugh with and hang out with.
	Not like social media.
	Times have changed.
	The social media that exists out there.
	Yeah, see, social media that exists out there.
	Yeah, you heard of the social media thing, John?
	It's not legitimate media.
	No, it's not legitimate.
	It's just something that exists.
	Yeah, it's just gossips.
	Yeah, it's just, it's not legitimate out there, you know what I'm saying?
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	We are not legitimate.
	In the morning.
	We are not legitimate media.
	Yeah, there's nothing obvious about that segway.
	Smooth, boy, smooth.
	Hey, I was sitting on that for hours.
	Of course, because of this idiotic Excel ribbon, I have moved to some page that I'm trying to get out.
	There it is.
	I hate this stuff.
	I only use OpenOffice.
	I don't use any of those Microsoft products.
	You don't use OpenOffice?
	I do, for my writing.
	Well, but, I mean, I've just, I don't even have it on my machines anymore.
	Yeah.
	No, no, okay.
	On this machine, and it's just, it's the most annoying thing.
	By the way, the woman, and I hate to be a sexist about this.
	But?
	But the woman who invented this ribbon interface that you can't use, and it's just a mess, which studies have shown is, with Word, has created a 35% decrease in productivity because you're always screwing around trying to find stuff.
	She turned out to be moved to the top of the ladder.
	She's the head of marketing and she's the one that pushed and managed to get the Windows 8 Metro.
	She's also in the Metro.
	So this is the person that...
	Can I just say something?
	I have not used Windows.
	That's not true.
	Skype here is running on Windows.
	That's the only thing I use it for.
	I just don't use it.
	I mean, I'm...
	You're a Mac user.
	And did you know, by the way, that Wine runs on the Mac?
	I just discovered this the other day.
	Oh, my God!
	I was like...
	Because there's this one ham radio program that only runs on Windows, and I wanted to try it out.
	This stuff, this digital processing stuff won't really run on this notebook, you know, whatever this...
	Touchy-feely, like 700 megahertz process or whatever.
	And then I'm like, I'm ripping my hair out, trying to find a port or whatever.
	And I find out that Wine runs perfectly on OS X. And you can run tons of stuff.
	I was blown up.
	I didn't know this.
	When did this happen?
	I don't know.
	I never heard of it.
	I think I'm a hipster.
	If you're running Windows programs in Wine on your MacBook Pro, I think that's kind of a hipster thing.
	I think you got it.
	Yeah.
	So, well, Wine has always been, you know, it's been the...
	One of my biggest complaints is that Linux...
	By the way, you always want to talk about tech once in a while.
	Yeah.
	That Linux, which is a perfectly functional...
	I run multiple Linux boxes, by the way.
	I like it very much.
	It's a great product.
	And because it doesn't run Photoshop...
	It's killing it because Adobe refuses to port Photoshop to Linux because Warnock and Geschke, the two founders of the company, especially John Warnock, has decided that Linux and the open source movement is his great enemy because of the invention of GhostScript.
	So he refuses.
	He's still a chairman of the board.
	He refuses to port to Linux.
	Meanwhile, Wine on Linux, I don't think it works that well.
	And so, I mean, I can't go to Linux.
	I'd love to.
	But I can't because I use Photoshop and Illustrator and some of these other things too much.
	Things like InDesign.
	I just wouldn't trust them running through wine.
	Have you ever tried Photoshop running in wine?
	No.
	That might be an interesting experiment.
	I mean, I've never even run Photoshop on anything but a Mac, and I'm not Photoshop at all.
	But I have to say that I really, you know, I changed my MacBook Air to Ubuntu, I don't know, like a year ago now, maybe?
	Your MacBook Air is running Ubuntu?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's pretty nerdy.
	What's wrong with the Apple OS? Uh...
	I just...
	Well, because Apple started changing things, you know?
	It's like you get forced into all these upgrades, and then you're forced...
	Oh, is this because...
	Ah...
	Are you telling me that, because historically, now I'm thinking about it, we've been doing this show for almost 500 episodes.
	We've done a lot of shows.
	And, I don't know, maybe 50 episodes, maybe longer.
	You stopped the same gripe that you always had.
	This must be it.
	Because you used to come on and go, and you'd be, usually not streaming, you'd be cussing like a truck driver who dropped a wrench on his foot.
	Yeah.
	About Apple doing an overnight upgrade and how your system can't work and you gotta do this and redo that and you gotta...
	You were complaining bitterly about this about once every two months.
	Yeah, but now you get...
	Specifically what is happening now, when they moved to...
	Your apps have to be in the App Store for your Mac.
	Already the whole app thing for your iPhone, that got me off the iPhone.
	I was like, oh, please.
	I want a little bit of...
	Maybe it's just pseudo-control, whatever.
	But the forced upgrades, I see Nikki going through it on, you know, not a daily basis, but, you know, she is completely, she wants to be in the ecosystem, and I support her.
	And she said, look, I want everything to sync, and whatever that cloud thing, and the iCloud, just make it all work.
	And, you know, she relies heavily on the Apple Photoshop, Lightroom products, all of this stuff.
	She has little understanding as a user of, you know, disks, drives, and directories, and, you know, she's a quintessential perfect Apple user, but then I go through these phases where she is forced to upgrade because A won't work with B unless you have this.
	There's all these dependencies.
	And then the scroll bars are upside down.
	The scroll bars are gone.
	You can't grab a scroll bar anymore on a Mac.
	I mean, who made that decision?
	And that's okay.
	The only reason I still use Macs in the studio is core audio is superior.
	That is a fabulous part of the Macintosh operating system.
	And Linux is very weak.
	The development is just still not there with the audio systems as well as with...
	Actually, wireless networking is very weak already.
	On a lot of the Linux installs.
	The driver support is not there.
	So that is the downside of my MacBook Air, which I have one of the first versions of the MacBook Air, the 3.1.
	And it's very hard to install Linux, first of all.
	Dual boot, you have to do with eFit and all this crap.
	But then the drivers for the Wi-Fi suck.
	I mean, it just really, really sucks.
	But even then, at least...
	I can control what's going on.
	Things won't change overnight.
	I can make my own decisions and I can work with software vendors who make free stuff and good stuff that I want and that doesn't have to go through some kind of committee.
	And I've seen this writing on the wall for a long, long time.
	But I think you should try Photoshop and Wine.
	Give it a try.
	Yeah, I'll give it a try.
	It might work.
	I have a Linux box.
	It keeps tempting me.
	It's a faster operating system, and it's kind of stable in the original style of the desktop metaphor.
	I just don't like this new stuff.
	So I've been messing around with Lenaro.
	Are you familiar with this install?
	Never heard of it.
	Yeah, so it works on ARM devices, because that's really what I'm working on with my QRPSDR project, is I got the Odroid computer, and so basically you burn Linaro.
	It spells not even, what is it?
	Sorry?
	Linaro.
	L-I-N-A-R-O, Linaro.
	And so you burn the whole OS onto the SD card, and it boots right from the SD card.
	It's pretty amazing.
	I mean, you've got this...
	It's like the Raspberry Pi, only it's more powerful as a faster processor.
	You know, it's just...
	And again, the Wi-Fi support blows.
	You know, you've got to find drivers, and that's a problem.
	But these little installs, man, it's...
	In school, kids should be taught they need to learn how to compile a kernel, This should be mandatory.
	Install Linux.
	You should be able to learn how to compile a kernel, change some headers, recompile.
	That should be mandatory for all kids.
	In kindergarten.
	The top thing going on in schools right now is moving kids to Chromebooks.
	Let's move on.
	You're depressing me now.
	I was happy about this conversation.
	Now you're depressing me.
	It's a fact.
	Yeah.
	Hey!
	That's for Rebecca McGinley from San Diego, California, who gave us 9999.
	Howdy, A&J. I'm sorry the Valentine's Day show was so wimpy, so here's my value for value.
	Can I get a Trains Good, Planes Bad, Shut Up Already at Science Slide Whistle Jam Session?
	No.
	Well, then let's do that.
	All aboard!
	Trains Good, Planes Bad!
	Shut up already!
	Science.
	That's it.
	What happened to shut up already?
	Oh, no, you were slide whistling over it.
	It was there.
	Yeah, it was there.
	It's on the tape.
	You guys are the best.
	Keep hitting them in the mouth.
	In the mouth.
	William Durkin in Greenville, South Carolina.
	Beautiful state.
	Always wanted to be a kingdom.
	Another prime number donation.
	487 is the 93rd prime, so here's 93 bucks.
	Just give me some karma.
	That's interesting.
	I wonder what the 500th prime is.
	What is the value of a prime number?
	Is it good for anything other than just saying it's a prime number?
	I mean, is there some usefulness of prime numbers?
	If you multiply it by two, you can divide into the result.
	Yeah, that's very hot.
	It's just a number that you can't...
	You can't divide by anything.
	I don't know.
	Mathematicians can tell us why it's important.
	And it's like a big deal to find all of them.
	Okay.
	Yes, it is.
	Are there some still out there that we haven't found yet?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's what they say.
	Every once in a while, it's like big news, breaking news when someone finds one.
	And now it's way up there.
	It's like hundreds of thousands.
	Apparently, it's good for encryption.
	Oh yeah, actually you can't do encryption without it.
	Because?
	Don't ask me.
	I don't know.
	There's a reason.
	And it's good for your hipster quotient.
	Yeah.
	Look it up.
	Look it up.
	Yeah.
	I'm asking you.
	I mean, I could just do the show and just ask questions and look it up and then not have...
	My answer is always going to be the same.
	Not have you on the show.
	Look it up.
	Get a voice.
	Get that clip.
	You got it ready.
	Ready?
	Yeah.
	Start recording.
	Yeah.
	Look it up.
	Perfect.
	Thank you.
	I'm set.
	I'm good to go.
	Elise Garling Jewelry in Sunnyside, New York.
	So we need...
	What's the 500th...
	Oh, I don't know.
	We've got to come up with something for the 500th show, a good number.
	I love chat room.
	Oh, Adam, basic math.
	Don't you even understand?
	Wow.
	Basic math.
	Yeah, that's what I learned in 6th grade.
	At least I forgot it.
	That's the problem.
	At least Garland Jewelry in Sunnyside, New York, 8888.
	A career karma for myself would be greatly appreciated and a chemtrail jingle for my wonderful thimerosal and GMO avoiding.
	Chemtrail spotting crackpot loved ones.
	Chemtrail spotting crackpot loved ones.
	You know who you are.
	P.S. Whatever happened to the N.A. homebrew competition?
	Thanks for the best podcast in the universe.
	Yeah, whatever happened.
	And you know, I haven't heard from our No Agenda moonshiner.
	From our bootlegger.
	I haven't heard from him again.
	The problem with the homebrew competition is two things.
	One, we don't apparently have anyone except a couple of professionals who can't ship the beer or they get busted.
	We don't have anybody except for them That can make any beer that's any good.
	We've gotten a bunch of beer.
	One batch came in that was pretty good, done by a female who I can't remember her name, and it was decent.
	It was actually drinkable.
	The other stuff, including some recent material, it actually had to be thrown out.
	It had to be skunked, as we say in the beer business.
	It was just not good.
	Skunked.
	Oh, sorry.
	He meant Ken Fails.
	There we go.
	You've got karma.
	Sorry.
	Monsanto, sneak it in as they always do.
	William Durkin and...
	What did I just do?
	Did I read William Durkin's instead of Rebecca McKinley?
	No, no, no.
	We did all that.
	No, no.
	And that was at least Garling Jewelry.
	Jay Kincaid in Roswell, Georgia.
	I would like to request a Super Love Karma 77 on the 7th for Jim on MCOG from Jazz Zone, BTW. Adam, by the way, Adam, a couple of shows ago when you first brought up peeing in the shower, I was listening to the show in the shower, as I often do, and actually peeing at that exact moment.
	Awesome.
	Thank you.
	That made my day.
	But you have to blow your nose, too.
	No.
	That's disgusting.
	You should be peeing and blowing your nose.
	You watch a football game and some guys decide to blow your nose.
	I know.
	You should do that in the shower while you're peeing.
	And didn't some producer of ours send in the idea that we shouldn't use the toilet at all, really, for pooping?
	We should get cat litter?
	And just clump it for humanity?
	Did he send that note to you because I don't remember this?
	Yeah, yeah.
	He said, no, it was the whole idea.
	It was like, we need to clump it and then throw it out.
	And now you've wasted valuable water with flushing.
	Maybe that's what that whole cruise ship thing was about.
	Hold on, he wants some karma, some 77 karma.
	There you go.
	You've got karma.
	Super love.
	Super love karma.
	Jason Anderson in Riverside, 77.
	ITM, I'm disappointed by the request to keep the show clean and proper.
	Listening to John go off on an obscenity-laced rant is one of the best parts of the show.
	So I figure I could either nap for humanity or I could donate for profanity.
	So here's 77 for more cursing, swearing, expletives, and malediction.
	Fuck yeah!
	I'd like to get a mention for my business and website, ballisticguitars.com.
	Oh.
	Guitar tech and repair services in Riverside, California.
	I just redesigned the website and I'm looking for some karma to bring in more business in 2013 so I can get a constitution.
	Whoop'em, LGYKarma.
	Thanks, guys.
	Keep up the awesome work.
	Wow.
	We have the short one, right?
	We have Whoop'em, LGKarma.
	Okay.
	Get out there!
	Whoopin' whoopin' whoopin' whoopin' whoopin' whoopin' whoopin' whoopin' whoopin' whoopin' the Constitution!
	Down!
	Hold on.
	You've got karma.
	Yay!
	There we go.
	John Vale in Pensburg, Pennsylvania.
	Please give my sister Christine Kormanick a straight up karma and wish her a happy birthday today.
	Thank you for the best podcast in the universe.
	You've got karma.
	Karma.
	All right.
	We like those when it's a little short, by the way.
	The segments are long because your notes are long.
	Here's the deal.
	We were going to move up that we'll talk about your comment at $69.69, and then one of the guys came in.
	You're pushing the Minutemen aside because we had this double nickels.
	I don't know what the Minutemen thing was.
	$55 or $50 or something.
	Double nickels on the dime.
	55.10.
	Okay, so it was double nickels on the dime.
	And so, you know, we give 55 every month and you're not going to talk.
	And so it was kind of a complaint that I had to kind of say, yeah, probably.
	It's probably true.
	We'll try to avoid this move.
	But we're not going to be able to if people write these long-winded, you know, messages that are just...
	I mean, I don't mind like a certain length, but like this, but the last one was perfect.
	And the next one is going to be good too.
	But, you know, if people could just think about maybe shorten their pitch a little bit.
	That was a, that really, are you trying to say something?
	Are you trying to say something?
	Can you do it better?
	Yeah.
	People keep your notes a little shorter, please.
	Well, there's that.
	Yeah.
	69, dude!
	So Colin Peterson comes in from Bo, Washington.
	Or Bao, I don't know.
	Valentine's Day sucked.
	Why?
	Because it's been too long since I had a karma shot.
	Here's hoping for better luck in the future.
	Can I get a Parliament mumble, shut up, it's science karma.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we can do that for you.
	I just wasn't ready.
	Stop already.
	Science.
	You've got karma.
	Alicia May in Ann Arbor, Michigan, $69.69.
	During the Thursday show, I was walking my dog and found $68 on the sidewalk.
	I instantly knew I would throw in $1.69 to keep the swazzle nuts alive.
	Sending good luck your way and a big thank you for what you do because no one in the universe assassinates the media better than you guys.
	LGY karma and thank you.
	Yay!
	You've got karma.
	TinyEmpire.com from Phoenix.
	Producer Miles in Arizona would like to let entrepreneurs in Scottsdale know about Assemble AZ. Makers in Mesa have HeatSync Labs.
	Hackers in Phoenix have Phoenix 2600.
	Tempe has TechPHX in November.
	And everyone else, there's Reddit Phoenix.
	Huh.
	Tiny...
	What is that?
	Alicia May.
	Hmm.
	No.
	I have no idea.
	TinyEmpire.com.
	What the hell is that?
	This has probably to do with...
	It's got to have something to do with 3D printers.
	I like the maker culture.
	It's kind of cool.
	Jason Stevens, Sir Jason to you, in Lost Wages, Nevada.
	69-69.
	First I wanted to say that I'm excited that Adam's work on the Cartuleri River thingy.
	Yeah.
	Well, this is Dave Jones and I have been working on this for like over a year now.
	I talked about it the other day.
	From the short video, I can tell it's going to be awesome.
	What is he talking about?
	I posted a YouTube video of the social network thing we've been working on for over a year.
	Oh, this is that one that's distributed or something that could take over the world?
	Yeah, that's the one.
	Exactly.
	You got it.
	That will make us no money, but it's going to be very cool because it will kill Facebook.
	Yeah, I've heard that before.
	Next, I want to apologize for the lack of notes for my 111-11 donations.
	Why?
	Because it's a recurring monthly subscription, as I believe the best podcast in the universe should get.
	Can I get John to give me an Only Amiga Makes It Possible, followed by Dr.
	Kiki's Shut Up Already in Science.
	Okay, ready?
	Hold on.
	Only Amiga Makes It Possible.
	Shut up already!
	Science!
	Wow.
	Have you ever said that in the past?
	No, never.
	I have no idea what he's doing with that.
	Michael Armstrong in Central City, Iowa, 6969.
	Monsanto Chemtrails LGY Karma.
	By the way, we'll do a four if the note is this.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Here we go.
	Campaign.
	Yay!
	You've got karma.
	A little vomit.
	Carl Shaput in Stony Creek, Ontario.
	Dvorak, thanks for busting Curry's balls for always being tough on the other media sources.
	Even if they are douchebags, I need a de-douching as I've been listening for six months.
	Karma for my fiancé's brother, father, Bob, who's fighting cancer.
	P.S. Curry reaction to the mention Pastafarianism on show 487 made me believe he's never heard of it.
	Check it out.
	I've never heard of it.
	This is the kind of guy who'll send me a note.
	I'm surprised you didn't know about this.
	I was amazed you didn't know about this.
	You don't know everything.
	You're on the best podcast in the universe.
	It's actually a farce religion used to rather effectively push out religiously motivated laws from our system.
	Read douchebag me for guessing wrong.
	What?
	Well, give him a douchebag.
	I don't know what to do.
	He wants to de-douche and then re-douche.
	You've been de-douched.
	All right, and here we go.
	Douchebag!
	He's back to scratch.
	There you go.
	Come back again next week.
	We'll make more.
	Is that the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
	Isn't that the religion?
	Hey, come on, man.
	Let's move along.
	See, these notes are too long.
	You were Sir Roel S.K. in Saskatoon, the Paris of...
	Somewhere.
	Canada.
	Sir Roll SK here from the Noble Liars.
	I wanted to say the last four shows have been amazing.
	This certainly is the best podcast in the universe.
	Please send some karma to my band, the Noble Liars.
	For now, we have a product and no market.
	If you listen to the pre-show, I'm sure you have heard some of it already and some...
	And send me some Swazzelnuff karma for my current relationships, which has so far been amazing, apparently with no Swazzelnuff.
	My previous Swazzelnuff donations continue to pay off in all the right ways.
	And I guess it does work.
	Adam, please enjoy the album and let me know what you think, John.
	Stay frosty, you gump.
	Grump.
	Okay.
	He wants Atlas Shrugged.
	Yeah.
	Okay, you little girl, yay.
	And...
	The second part of the Adam Shrugged movie is amazing?
	Right.
	I think Atlas Shrugged Part 2 is out.
	I saw Part 1, so I might as well go see Part 2 or wait for the DVD to come out.
	Here we go.
	Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand.
	You've got karma.
	Tight, tight, tight, tight.
	Eric Anderson in Bothell, Bothell, Washington.
	69, 69.
	Send me some one hot milf, little girl, yay, karma for my birthday on Saturday, which we have listed.
	Hoping my smoking hot wife will have a special birthday present for me.
	Wink, wink.
	That's one hot milf, baby.
	Yay!
	You've got karma.
	Keith McColpin in Imperial, Pennsylvania.
	We've got a lot of Pennsylvanians in today.
	Yeah.
	18 months ago, I made my second donation and decided what I thought was a funny comment about my vegan drone girlfriend.
	Turns out I'm not a comedian.
	Many lonely nights later.
	I learned the error of my ways and would like to make amends.
	Even though I asked for job-seeking karma for Amy back then and she soon found one, I would like to make up for my poor taste in humor by having Adam say the following.
	And Adam?
	I get to do my voice here.
	Amy, Keith wants you to know he adores you and you are the love of his life.
	Please give both of us a shot of karma and a fiscal cliff scream just because I like it.
	Hey baby, how about some upside down loving now?
	You've got karma.
	Yeah, that'll work.
	Yeah, yeah.
	A winner.
	Scott Williams, Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
	ITM Biff and Cletus, my girlfriend Tally, who recently converted to no agenda-ism, did not want me to give her flowers or chocolates this fake Valentine's holiday, but instead donate to the best podcast in the universe.
	She would like a Don't Eat Me Hillary Clinton drone again.
	You've got karma combo.
	Don't eat me Hillary Clinton.
	The drone again.
	Let's release me.
	You thought karma.
	That's a nice combo, actually.
	And that ends our crazy segment.
	Oh, hey, hey.
	Linux.
	Hold on.
	Linux.
	Yeah, Linux.
	Oh, I can't wait.
	Can't wait to move to the Linux.
	Kevin Benson, Boudinus, New South Wales.
	From Gitmo Down Under, hi guys.
	My ever slow donation plan was to become the Wizard of Oz as every roundtable and drunken bunch of knights needs a wizard.
	This is 6666.
	Which is the magic number, 3333, for each of you, too.
	Thanks for the news breakdown and reminding me of how good it is not to live in the USA. And please, yes, we'll have drones over you, too.
	Don't worry about it.
	And please give me what I think is the ultimate combination of three clips.
	Little girl, yay.
	And that's it?
	With the karma or just those three clips?
	That's what you said for the three clips.
	Yay!
	Hey, you can't trick me.
	Do that with your Linux box.
	Dano, or Dario, I'm sorry, Gonzalez, Gonzalez, I don't know.
	You know, this name is always...
	Dario Concalvis.
	Goncalvis.
	I think it is Concalvis.
	Goncalvis.
	Anyway, 6660.
	First time donor, been listening to the show and I love it.
	The best podcast in the universe.
	He says, postcast.
	Please douche my mate, Andrew Capel.
	Hey, this is nice.
	Douche?
	Who introduced me to the show and never donated.
	Andrew Capel.
	Tony from DailySkew.com in Fort Lauderdale, 6611.
	Call me Tony from DailySkew.com.
	We've made yet another trip to New York for my son's medical treatments.
	I've had seven liters of my own blood spun through a centrifuge to extract white blood cells before being reinserted into my body to help boost my boy's immune system when he gets his transplant.
	Holy crap.
	Well, yeah.
	And we bicker.
	Yeah.
	Crazy stuff.
	Well, rather than ask for karma, I thought I'd get two things to do.
	By the way, by the way, doing that, ultimate hipster thing to do.
	And let's be honest.
	Actually, it was yes.
	Super hipster.
	Actually, it's true.
	Super hipster to have seven liters of your own blood spun through a centrifuge to extract white blood cells to be reinserted into his body to help boost his son's immune system.
	What a hipster.
	Well, rather than ask for karma, I thought I'd give two things to the best podcast.
	First, the live listeners can download today our new Kindle e-book, Enneagram Pop for free.
	That's E-N-N-E-A-G-R-A-M, pop.
	Just go to thedailyskew.com and click the big blue button to get it.
	Second, I'm emailing Arnie and Jericho a new jingle for 6611.
	Hope this inspires more inflation-adjusted donations.
	Alright, so I'm going to personally reach into the No Agenda Karma bag and hand out some karma to you and your kid because that's pretty awesome.
	And it's dailyskew.com, D-A-I-L-S-K-E-W. And here's the jingle he sent along.
	I've already played it earlier today.
	It's Lightning Rod and Grounding Braves!
	In the morning!
	You've got karma.
	You've got karma.
	It has a long thunder at the end.
	Urs Gossi, I think, in Kokomo, Indiana.
	Gentlemen, greetings from Switzer Nuts.
	Oh, he's in Switzerland.
	Thank you.
	Oh, that's a Swiss name.
	Thank you for providing us with the countless hours of media assassination and the best podcast in the universe.
	I have to call myself out as a douchebag for not donating earlier.
	Give him a douchebag.
	Douchebag.
	Okay, if you want.
	Douchebag!
	I haven't finally guilted myself enough.
	I emptied out my PayPal account.
	By the way, everyone should do that.
	Sorry for being part of the freeloading majority for too long.
	Please send a random karma combo my way.
	Turn off your television!
	You will obey.
	You've got karma.
	Random.
	Pretty random.
	Brad Bedow.
	Bebo.
	Brad Bebo.
	In Fond du Lac, Wisconsin.
	Please read in stoner voice.
	Otis Bink.
	Foot of the...
	I don't know if I can get into it.
	It's funny.
	Hey, man.
	Otis Bink.
	Foot of the stinking lake, Wisconsin.
	Dear John and Adam.
	Here's a little bit of value for me for the large amounts of value I get from you too.
	I've been listening religiously and kindly thank my friend Governor Jerry Brown for hitting me in the mouth.
	I'm hoping my donation gets me a golden key to the crapper as I will not shit in a bag.
	Please tell the chat room to fuck off and hit me with a sexy science, parliament mumble and karma all around for everyone in need.
	Keep up the great work, gentlemen.
	I'm concerned.
	I'm really concerned because you seem to have lost your stoner voice.
	I noticed.
	Yeah, it's not good.
	You know what a lot of it is?
	I know it sounds like bull crap, but I think I can only do these voices when the person writes them in that voice.
	Yeah, no, that's true.
	We have had people that were drunk, gave the drunk donations, and I can sound like them, and we've had people that were, I know they were stoned because of the way they wrote.
	But if you're straight or drunk and want the stoner voice, you're not going to get it.
	No.
	I channel the voice, you see.
	Yes.
	You're a method actor.
	You're a method actor.
	Stalwell, Victoria.
	Here's a small donation to help ease Adam's butt.
	Adam's butt hurt.
	Okay.
	Oh, I see.
	I have butt hurt?
	Okay.
	After the vile, evil, and nefarious Kevin Smith used Adam's surname as an initiator for a series of mostly unfunny jokes, a shot at karma for Adam would ensure that nobody gives him grief about his name going into the future.
	It's unconscionable to make jokes of dubious humor value based on somebody's name.
	Fact.
	And it's refreshing to see no agenda, never pooping or stooping to these crass and base attacks while reporting and dissecting news involving people like Steve Cook, Janet Napolitano, Hillary Clippity-Clop, Clinton, Piers Moron, Joe Biden, and others.
	All the best, Mike Catech-Stalwell, pronounced stall, in Victoria.
	All right, so can I just say one thing?
	That was not the issue.
	The issue was no plug.
	Yeah.
	There was no plug.
	There was no mention of our show.
	We wanted a plug on the show.
	That's what shows of you.
	Plug.
	No.
	You can make all the fun of his name if you want to if you plug the website.
	Exactly.
	You could have said curry.com as part of that bit.
	I would have taken that.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Apparently you're just some guy who invented something.
	You're not even alive.
	No.
	Not me.
	That was terrible.
	That guy's hard to listen to.
	Okay, come on, come on, come on.
	Kevin Ayers in Broomfield, Colorado.
	Double nickels on the diamond.
	He sent this note in.
	Now, listen to this note carefully considering what he gave.
	Duh, it's my birthday on Tuesday the 19th, which means you have to put him on the list.
	I donated $66.66 and forgot.
	Geez, I need a mind control and a good slapping around.
	I promise I'll pretend not to like it.
	So, he not only forgot to put the no in, but he doesn't even remember how much he donated.
	Okay.
	Well, he's on the list.
	He's on the list.
	Let's see.
	Okay, here's an example of a note that's too long.
	Jordan Rivas in Converse, Texas.
	You can go down the street and you can lecture him.
	5510.
	First time donor, now recovering boner.
	I've been listening on and off for about a year.
	However, no agenda is getting ready to bump Twit off my number two spot in the podcast rotation was number one.
	So I figured it was time to show my support.
	N.A. and Twit will both always be second to smodcast.
	No.
	Please.
	You know, we can just sit here and say, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.
	No, man, man, man.
	Hey, man.
	And by the way, I was going back because I was pulling some clips and I ended up with a bunch of, yeah, fuck, man.
	Hey, man.
	Hey, man.
	It's awesome, man.
	talking and talking and talking and his partner going.
	Yeah.
	Well, listen, listen, not, I'm going to do it.
	I'm going to do it.
	Here it is.
	Is it that Kevin Smith?
	Is that who he is?
	I don't think he has like a that Kevin.
	I saw Red State, by the way.
	Sucked!
	He encourages you, Adam, to reach out to Kevin, who is generally one of the nicest filmmakers out there, and one of the few who has actually called out the Hollywood BS. Taking his film out.
	Hollywood BS. Hello, Hollywood BS. Wow.
	Wow.
	That's really important.
	He's one of the few who has actually called it out, apparently.
	Hey, man.
	Don't get mad.
	Get Irish.
	Out without studios and someone who appreciates trailblazers like Adam.
	No, he doesn't.
	No, he doesn't.
	If he did, then he would have plugged me.
	He doesn't.
	I would love nothing more than to see a mashup of my two favorite podcasts and have Adam go one-on-one with Kev's shows.
	Kev.
	And I, it's like, suck.
	And I, that said, I like a de-douching and a 999 by itself followed by a combo of Dr.
	Kiki's at Science and Atlas Shrugged.
	No, you know what?
	No, no, no, no, none of that.
	Nothing.
	No jingle for you.
	I'm sorry, I've got a hammer comes down here.
	Okay.
	I'm not going to argue the point.
	I mean, let me just read from that Kevin Smith's Twitter tweets.
	Sitting down now with Ed Smosier for some smodcasts.
	What shall we talk about today, man?
	Los Angeles, see the trailer.
	It doesn't say man in the tweet.
	No.
	Los Angeles, see the trailer for Jay and Silent Bob's super groovy cartoon movie Wednesday night at the Laugh Factory.
	I love you, Long Beach.
	I'll be back for more Babble at the Laugh Factory next month.
	Guys, he's not giving you any news.
	You see, he's promoting himself.
	Yeah.
	That's all he does is promote himself.
	And, you know, it's okay if you promote someone else once in a while.
	Doesn't hurt?
	No.
	No.
	Sure wish one of these days demon possession movies would end with the possessed getting stabbed by an icicle made of frozen holy water.
	Wow!
	That's the best tweet ever!
	Thanks to What's Trending for having me on the show!
	Love meeting Lisa Kudrow at Bernie and nerding out over making stuff.
	It's hashtag future of TV. Oh, hipster.
	Hans Petter Feld?
	I think.
	In Oslo.
	F-J-E-L-D. Maybe it's Gelled.
	Greetings from Gitmo Brown.
	She's found a deli in the U.S. that ships the stuff.
	Want some?
	Yeah.
	I sent, yeah, in second place is two orders.
	I sent you a mail.
	Give me address and I will get it to you.
	Thank you for the great entertainment...
	I don't know what he's saying here.
	Jingles.
	WTC7 won't...
	Oh, he wants to...
	Okay, yeah.
	Well, he's not a native speaker.
	WTC7 won't go away.
	Stop already.
	Science.
	Karma.
	What happened?
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Sorry, sorry, the karma didn't come.
	You thought karma.
	I wanted to make sure the karma didn't.
	Sheena Hershey in Baltimore, Maryland.
	My name is Sheena.
	I donated 50 to the No Agenda Donation.
	I was my first time donating.
	She must be a little girl.
	I wanted to send a message, which is my donation.
	However, I hit the send before I could write my message.
	I was wondering if you could give karma to my boyfriend, Nate, the best boyfriend in the world.
	He's taking a class right now, and I want to send him karma to pass this course.
	My boyfriend met you, Adam, in Texas.
	Yes, I know.
	He's Sir GQ. I know, Sir GQ. Really?
	He needs a karma.
	Interesting.
	Huh.
	Why?
	Why?
	I'll tell you later about that.
	Interesting.
	By the way, he could be in GQ. He's a handsome man, Sir GQ. Yeah, handsome man.
	Good-looking lady.
	You've got karma.
	And it was so sweet because she sent a note.
	She's like, oh, I forgot to put a note in the PayPal.
	And, oh, man, I was like, could you please do that?
	And I said, does she know?
	We've got it.
	We've got it under control.
	So, so, send pictures.
	Of Fretcher.
	Mm-hmm.
	Jack Schroeder in Windsor, Ontario.
	$50 without comment.
	Thank you, Jack.
	Brian Watson.
	Sir Brian Watson in Raleigh, North Carolina.
	Need Fisker karma.
	Because it's on fire.
	The car's in my driveway burning.
	Boycott movies slash music except Taylor Swift.
	Really?
	Everyone should listen to no agenda State Department briefings.
	My favorite.
	White House briefings and C-SPAN. Love the show.
	Here's your Fisker karma.
	Here we go.
	You've got karma.
	Which, by the way, I thought was pretty interesting, this whole so-called war between Elon Musk of Tesla and the writer of the New York Times about the range of the car.
	I was actually reading this whole thing.
	I'm like, wow, this should be John's gig.
	Some other douchebag walked off with your whole thing.
	I wrote about it, but I actually had some facts.
	Yeah, but it's a great PR for the writer, whose name I can't remember, and for Tesla.
	It's all great PR. What?
	Yeah, it works.
	It works like a champ.
	Yeah, well, there you go.
	Zane Bland, if that is indeed his real name, in Milford, Ohio, 50, without comment.
	Thank you, Zane.
	Stephen Atkins in Wainwright, Alberta.
	Sorry for not donating for so long.
	Hope this gets me a little karma.
	Keep up the awesome work, guys.
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	So, um, this, uh, when we already talked about, uh, oh, the meteor.
	Yeah, we talked about the meteor.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	I have no, I've mixed up the show.
	I did the second half first.
	But I do have some cyber warrior stuff that I thought was interesting.
	You know, Steck, our lawyer there, and I think he's near Chicago.
	He emails a lot.
	Yeah.
	And I'm going to get him on the cartillary system, by the way.
	On the what?
	The cartillary system.
	Look at my tweets and look at the video.
	Does he need a transplant?
	Yes, exactly.
	Okay.
	That's why we call it cartillary.
	And remember the Department of Homeland Security's cybersecurity officer who will be determining what can be shared and protecting your rights, Mary Ellen Callahan?
	Oh, God.
	So she works part-time for a law firm.
	She's only half, she works part-time for Jenner and Block, which is a huge, huge law firm.
	Yeah, so one of the big boys.
	Yeah, so she works there and she works at, so it's a part-time job, obviously.
	Protecting your privacy is obviously a part-time job.
	I mean, that makes so much sense to me.
	So he sent me an email.
	He said, Adam, I emailed you a few months ago about Mary Ellen Callahan.
	I was at a conference in Chicago, and she was a speaker.
	She's a very nice person, but a complete and utter idiot.
	Apparently, she's working both for DHS and her partnership at a megalaw firm, General and Block.
	As an example of her expertise in cybersecurity at the conference, as an example, she talked about a big DHS project she worked on, where some federal doofus lost his USB drive with hundreds of millions of slaves' personal information on it.
	It was unencrypted, never found.
	She said that she works a lot with training people how not to lose their USB drives.
	This is the person in charge of your privacy with a new executive order from the president.
	So she didn't teach them how to use TrueCrypt or any of these encryption systems or buying a secure USB, which is pre-encrypted or anything like that?
	Nah.
	Just keep them from losing it.
	Well, she's only part-time, John.
	I mean, my God, man.
	What do you expect?
	If she really wanted to teach people something, she'd have to be full-time.
	Why was she picked in the first place?
	Actually, I saw her resume.
	I saw her bio on the wiki.
	She actually looks for her.
	She sounds like she's been trained properly.
	You mean as a shill?
	Or something.
	But I mean, she doesn't sound like some slouch like that.
	You know, those two guys that were the CTO and whatever they were.
	Oh, Vivek Kundra.
	Chopra and...
	Chopra and...
	Vivek Kundra.
	Yeah, that guy.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So I have an old clip.
	I was going to do some other stuff, but okay.
	I just wanted to do one thing before we get to a clip.
	You know, we talk about the cultural jihad.
	Remember my handler?
	Yeah.
	You haven't talked to her since.
	No, an email.
	Only a quick email.
	Would she straighten you out?
	Well, no.
	She said, you know, she actually thanked, she said, please thank John for recognizing her work.
	What did I do?
	You said, hey, she straightens you out.
	She sets you straight from time to time.
	Oh.
	And so, of course, this was about the high likelihood that John O. Brennan converted to Islam.
	And that she basically laid down the whole smack about Sharia law and about how...
	The Muslim Brotherhood is giving all these goodies to the industrial complexes so they can go and make hundreds of billions and trillions.
	And of course, all we get is cultural jihad.
	So first of all, after I do this whole thing, Glenn Beck starts talking about this.
	So this makes me feel not so good.
	Because Glenn Beck just is icky.
	But it was very funny to read that in Canada...
	Prime Minister Stephen Harper has unveiled the long-awaited, are you ready for it, Office of Religious Freedom.
	How 1984 New World Order does that sound?
	Prime Minister Stephen Harper will unveil the government's long-awaited Office of Religious Freedom and name Canada's first religious freedom ambassador at a Toronto-area Ahmadiyya Muslim Community Center.
	So religious freedom for Muslims, apparently.
	This is nuts, people.
	Why would it be a Muslim that is in charge of this?
	People up in Canada, get Harper out!
	I don't think having an office of religious freedom is a good idea.
	It just doesn't sound right to me.
	I wish I had the clip at the ready.
	Never mind, it's just annoying me now.
	Is it from last week?
	It's a good clip that we never played.
	You had something you wanted to play.
	The thing that's going around now that came out this morning is Jeff Jarvis on the BBC. Did you see that?
	Oh, no, what?
	He was yelling at the guy from the BBC. About what?
	About the Facebook hack.
	What?
	What about it?
	Okay, so Facebook, apparently there was a DayZero hack on...
	DayZero exploit.
	Yeah, exploit.
	I'm sorry.
	DayZero exploit that infected several computers inside the company.
	And this happens.
	This is what happens with big centralized systems.
	It happens all the time.
	So what?
	Yeah, when it gets messed up.
	So the BBC, of course, is like, oh, this is bad.
	So Jeff Jarvis does something very interesting.
	Well, I want your response to it after we play the clip.
	Do you have any details of what sort of hack took place?
	You've already said it.
	A few of the staffers' laptops were hacked through a malware site, and there's nothing that was compromised by any sites.
	No, I disagree with you.
	This is irresponsible journalism.
	This is crap.
	You're trying to do a techno-panic and say that people should be scared around the world, and they shouldn't be.
	And there's no story here.
	This interview shouldn't exist.
	I said that to your brainer viewer.
	I'll say it to you.
	You're just causing a panic, and there's no reason for it.
	Look, answer me that, please.
	Okay, listen, I totally appreciate your point, but we still think that it's a point worth discussing.
	No, I don't think so.
	This is media coming along and saying, oh my god, technology is scary.
	How often do I have calls from BBC saying, let's do a story about how wonderful technology is.
	All of the new opportunities it creates.
	No!
	This is what you do.
	You come in and you say, aha, a hacking story.
	Technology is bad.
	Technopanic.
	Danger, danger.
	B.S.
	This is crap, and you know it.
	It's irresponsible journalism, and I'm calling it on it.
	Okay, Jeff Jarvis, listen, we do appreciate your time.
	We appreciate the analysis as well.
	No, no, no, listen.
	Good night.
	No, no, no, absolutely not.
	The reason we're stopping here to hear...
	No, you don't want to hear it.
	You don't want to hear it.
	No, we're more than happy to hear it, Mr.
	Jarvis.
	It's just the nature of your language, okay?
	We do appreciate the analysis.
	It's just the nature of the language.
	I can do far worse than that.
	No, I'm sure you could.
	Okay.
	Listen, thank you very much indeed for your time, Mr.
	Jarvis.
	Okay.
	So the policies for the language there in that interview with Josh.
	The language, you used the word crap.
	So, okay, I have some, I didn't know this.
	Yeah.
	But I have some thoughts.
	This is making the rounds today.
	Do they have a studio that's shaped like a giant bucket?
	I'm sorry to say the only video I could find was someone had taped this with a camera on the TV. So yeah, it sucks.
	Sorry.
	And secondly, I'm pretty sure I can predict with some certainty that Jeff Jarvis will never be invited back.
	Yeah, I'm pretty sure about that too.
	But this is kind of, it's interesting to me that he chose this.
	By the way, because when I'm hearing this, I'm like, well, wow, you know, if either one of us dies, you know, Jeff can slip right in.
	You know, he can be on the show.
	And I'm not a big fan, typically, of his.
	But this was...
	I kind of like what he was doing.
	Because it was more about...
	Well, he doesn't do deconstruction, so he actually wouldn't work on this show.
	He's just grumpy.
	He's just having a bad day?
	Is that what you're saying?
	I think this has to be it.
	Because most of the time, he's very civil...
	But he was off the deep end.
	He was like rocking it.
	I mean, did he have to get up at three in the morning to do it because it was across the world?
	Or there was something else going on that made him this agitated?
	Well, I was wondering.
	I know what he would normally do on these sorts of things.
	Well, it's not, you know, you say the same thing, but you do it this way.
	Yeah, you know, it turns out not to be a big deal.
	And this pretty much happens at all the companies.
	It's just what you said a little earlier, just exactly the same thing.
	It's not a big deal.
	I think too many people are making a mountain out of a molehill.
	And then you stop and let the guy come back with it.
	And it becomes a very classic, time-wasting, BBC, quasi...
	This conversation, this is the same things you're seeing on CNBC when you're in one of the boxes or the Octabox, you know, there's a bunch of people's heads on the screen and they really say nothing.
	One guy tries to get some attention by saying something kind of interesting, but it's all bullcrap.
	And I don't know what happened.
	He went off the rails.
	I actually feel that he kind of, in a way, also might have been protecting Facebook.
	Yeah, because at the beginning of the clip, he's kind of like, you know, everyone knows on Facebook you're sharing everything.
	He wasn't, I don't know.
	I'm not so sure.
	Well, that's pretty sinister, if true.
	Well, I am a sinister dude.
	But I like the whole rant, and I like the whole, you know, like, you're going to cut me off now.
	I thought it was good.
	That was good.
	But it was atypical Jarvis.
	It didn't seem like that was something he would do normally.
	No, that's what I was saying.
	That's why I think something else was going on.
	But I don't think he was...
	If he was protecting Facebook, he did a crappy job of it.
	We get this all the time, by the way.
	At least I get emails from people who are incensed and so angry at me.
	And it's outrageous.
	And sometimes I'll send like, oh man, you know, really?
	What?
	And then, you know, after two or three emails back and forth, it turns out, you know, my dog got hit by a car, my girlfriend left me, I'm broke, you know?
	And it's like, it's just people projecting their own crap.
	Yeah, so that's what I'm, that's my thinking on this.
	Yeah, I wonder, I hope he's okay.
	Maybe his dog got hit.
	Maybe his girlfriend left him.
	Hey, can I just, I'd like to wrap up the Chris Dorner stuff.
	Okay, I have one donor clip.
	What do you have?
	Oh, you have a good one.
	Let's play it.
	What is it?
	I got a very short clip.
	It says donor.
	I don't know why I can't spell on these things.
	It's amazing I can find your clips.
	Yeah.
	Well, now when it says, let me read this one again.
	Defense Strategy Island.
	This is all spelled right.
	This was the wrap-up on one of the big major news networks that summed it all up, and we're good to go.
	We're done with the story.
	Now, police stress they did not burn down that cabin intentionally.
	They also say after the flames started, a single gunshot was heard inside, and that sounded very different from all the other shots that were fired, and they believe that was the bullet that Dorner saved for himself.
	It's Lightning Rod and Grounding Braves!
	In the morning!
	He's saving it for himself!
	I'm saving this bullet!
	I'm telling you, I'm saving this bullet to kill myself!
	I gotta kill myself with this bullet!
	Yeah, it's really unbelievable.
	So, here's the...
	I actually, whenever I want the truth, I turn to Erin Burnett.
	Yeah, and it's a question that they believe that they have answered.
	At this point, what the detectives are saying is that they have completed the autopsy, and at this point they are saying that Dorner died of a single gunshot wound to the head, something that they're not 100% sure of.
	I love that part.
	The autopsy is done, and we're sure, kind of.
	But all signs are pointing to Dorner.
	All signs, John.
	All signs are pointing to.
	Can I ask you a question?
	Can I ask you a question?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So since you, obviously, you were more into this story, I think, or you did a better job of finding stuff than I did, because you got the...
	The wallet.
	The double wallet part of it.
	Yeah.
	Which, that was good.
	Yeah.
	So, since you know all these details, you're like probably the – I would say you are the national expert on this case.
	I'm close.
	Do you – was there – since he shot himself in the head and then he dropped dead, there would be – and I assume he's right-handed or left-handed.
	What difference does it make?
	The gun that he shot himself with would be right there and maybe, you know, it heated up and blew up.
	But the gun would be around right there and – Probably in his hand and all the rest.
	Did you find a gun?
	Did they find a gun?
	Oh, I'm so glad you asked, John.
	Not only did they find a gun, they found the entire arsenal.
	They're showing it on television, which includes a Bushmaster AR-15.
	But they're not scorched at all.
	We heard all those reports about Christopher Dorner being heavily armed, that he's armed and dangerous.
	But looking at it, it really sort of underscores that this man was prepared for war.
	He was engaged in an all-out war.
	Look at this weapon.
	This is a sniper semi-automatic rifle.
	Not a burn mark on it, by the way.
	...with a scope.
	The scope is perfectly intact.
	Roll high magazine clips.
	It's a high magazine.
	I don't know what that is, but it's a high magazine.
	Apparently you can smoke this.
	I think it meant high capacity.
	She left the word out.
	Yeah, I know what she means, John, but the whole point is...
	She could have been high.
	She's showing me magazines which are typically made of plastic.
	And nothing's burned.
	Full high magazine clips.
	Several semi-automatic handguns.
	Semi-automatic versus the automatic handguns.
	He had a...
	What's a semi-automatic handgun?
	It's a semi-automatic.
	It's not a machine handgun.
	Bombs.
	He was wearing a vest.
	A military helmet.
	A military helmet!
	Oh my god!
	This man certainly knew what he was doing, and he wanted to wage war.
	So they're showing the entire table, not a scorch mark on him.
	Okay, well let me ask you another question then.
	Let's just say that they were well made and they wouldn't scorch.
	But in that temperature where you have a body that was apparently burnt to a crisp to the point where they say they found his dental records because he had no fingerprints or anything.
	The guy was burnt to a crisp.
	He was like barbecue.
	Now, in that kind of heat, wouldn't the bullets in the magazines or in the gun...
	Explode now and again?
	Yeah.
	Making a mess out of the gun or the magazine so you would not have a magazine.
	The high magazines.
	A high magazine that would be intact.
	It would be all screwed.
	It would be messed up by the bullets exploding in the magazine.
	Yes.
	Was that the case?
	John, all I'm telling you is that they are showing me a table with police officers showing, you know, like it has a sign, Christopher Dorner's arsenal with an arrow, right?
	And they're showing me his jacket, his military helmet, his Bushmaster rifle.
	It's a jacket burnt?
	No!
	It's all perfectly pristine quality.
	I want one of these jackets.
	Well, so here's my favorite.
	I think it was Bruns Clothing, actually.
	This jacket.
	It doesn't burn.
	Brunsclothing.com?
	The guys who...
	Yeah, it doesn't burn.
	It's unburnable.
	But I love the rifle.
	And they have the magazines, the high magazines, the plastic ones.
	Because a lot of these are plastic.
	You can get the metal ones, but you can get plastic.
	In fact, most of them, I think, these days are plastic.
	And, you know, they're not melted or anything.
	It's all fine.
	And no one sees this, by the way.
	There's no, like...
	I mean, the zombies are so programmed and hypnotized.
	Now, of course, the big thing is the reward.
	So we need to...
	Now, as I said, it was only for the capture and not for the killing of him.
	So I think that no one's going to get it anyway.
	But if you're going to give the reward...
	Are you whistling?
	No, go on.
	Oh, I thought you were whistling at me.
	I was breathing into this.
	I was breathing, but I just happened to have the slide whistle on my lips.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	Okay.
	I was shooting myself up for a dramatic moment.
	A doozy.
	You have a tell, okay?
	You have a tell when you're breathing through the slide whistle.
	I didn't know what was going on.
	So, you know, we're going to wind it.
	We have to do something with this reward.
	So let's find someone to give it to.
	The authorities did not address in the press conferences who is going to get the $1 million reward for tips that led to the capture and conviction of Dorner.
	The Los Angeles Police Department has just issued a statement and it says the following.
	Due to the large number of inquiries into the reward, the mayor's office and the Los Angeles Police Department remind media outlets that reward monies cannot be distributed until the investigation is complete, which takes time.
	Final decisions on the dissemination of the reward on this case, as in all reward cases, will be made upon completion of the investigation.
	Well, one potential candidate is Rick Hildebrake.
	He says Dorner pulled a gun on him, then took his truck, leaving him and his dog unharmed.
	And Rick joins me now out front.
	Rick, I just was...
	Now, do you know who this guy is?
	This is the guy...
	I don't know.
	This is the agent.
	I can't even follow the story anymore.
	This is the agent that we played the clip from.
	This is the guy who said this.
	Now to the man who lost his truck to Christopher Dorff.
	Or the agent that...
	This is the guy.
	Who are they going to give it to?
	I held a break a short time ago.
	Rick held a break.
	Here we go.
	Take them through what happened.
	You were coming up a side road on the highway and you saw some law enforcement in the area.
	What happened?
	I saw something moving in the trees, and I could see that it was somebody with a gun.
	Now, there's been a lot of people up around here with guns searching buildings and things like that, so I'm not unused to seeing them, but this was an odd area for that to be.
	And by the time that thought process ended, I realized it was Christopher Dorner, and I saw a vehicle crashed in the snow behind him.
	Remember this guy, the vehicle guy?
	Oh yeah, the cop.
	Yeah, with the wraparound black sunglasses.
	That's who they're going to give the reward to.
	Yeah, it's just phony.
	He's not getting anything.
	It's just they're going to give it back to themselves as a cash bonus.
	Yeah, it's just like an actor.
	Welcome to San Bernardino.
	It's amazing.
	Amazing.
	But they also found a fake girlfriend.
	Dorner's swing from calm to murderer, potentially.
	Let's get some insight on him from Ariana Williams.
	She dated Christopher Dorner five years ago.
	It's nice to have you with us.
	He dated back in 2006, I guess.
	Oh, 2006.
	Is that five years ago, really?
	How about, try a little more.
	How about adding better?
	Yeah, how about seven years?
	It's a little more than five years ago.
	Tell me a little bit about...
	So they just drum up some woman.
	She's an actor.
	And she's just an actor.
	And she has nothing to say.
	What you first thought when you heard that he was the suspect in this manhunt.
	I think anytime you hear something of this nature, this extreme, it's a shock.
	She sounds like a real girlfriend, doesn't she?
	She sounds like a voiceover announcer.
	Exactly.
	Listen, we just need somebody.
	Get me the list.
	Who do you have?
	I don't have the actor list here.
	I got voiceover talent.
	That's great.
	That's great.
	Just whoever.
	African-American voice.
	Much in shock probably as the next person.
	And it's just like it threw me for a loop.
	But did you think I'm shocked?
	Threw me for a loop.
	But I expected it or was it I'm shocked he could never have done something like this?
	I'm shocked I sort of expected it.
	I can't honestly tell you that I would say...
	I'm shocked I sort of expected it?
	Oh, this would never happen.
	I mean, when you see signs of someone's behavior in the manner that sort of like stress-induced type, you know, behavior also, I think, coupled with maybe how their personality already is, I think it makes it easier to understand why something like this could possibly happen.
	Oh, did he beat you up?
	Did he go crazy?
	Did he whack you upside the head?
	Did he pull a gun on you?
	What kind of signs were you seeing that would lead you later to not think it was such a stunning development?
	Well, I think just a lot of on-the-job stress.
	And I think maybe his beliefs and his values about how cops should behave.
	What?
	Yeah, he had a stressful job.
	That was clear sign.
	This is bullcrap.
	This is so, so, so fake.
	So phony.
	And this is our buddy here.
	What's her name?
	That's how I address all my buddies.
	What's her name?
	Our CNN buddy.
	What's her name?
	What's her name?
	Oh, Erin?
	No, the morning show girl who's about to be replaced by Erin.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Betsy.
	And just hearing a little bit at that time about how he was a little bit stressed out at work.
	He was a little bit stressed out at work, so it made total sense that he could flip.
	It threw me for a loop.
	Oh, people.
	Get better actors.
	Get better scriptwriters.
	Oh, that too.
	Yes, Soledad O'Brien.
	Ah.
	Soledad.
	All right.
	Betsy.
	Betsy.
	Play us out, big man.
	Can we do the Ask Adam thing?
	How many lightning strikes are there daily in the world?
	Daily in the world?
	Wow.
	I mean, like striking the ground, building structures, trees?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, discharges.
	Including your potato?
	Yeah.
	No, it has to be a lightning.
	No, not static.
	Not static, really?
	No, you know what I'm talking about.
	I'm going to say 10,000.
	Play it.
	Astonishingly, 40 strikes occur every second.
	That's more than 3 million strikes a day.
	Wow.
	Was that a porn?
	No, this is part of NOVA's new style.
	It's terrible.
	And they have, for example, the upcoming NOVA, which is going to be something you'll be interested in, which I think is a brainwashing.
	NOVA's gone off the deep end.
	NOVA's public television, is it not?
	Of course.
	Nation's treasure.
	So this is the upcoming NOVA. You can check it out and you know what it's going to be about.
	It's going to be about drugs.
	Nova investigates the roots of violence.
	The question on everybody's mind is how do you prevent the next new town?
	Are killers born or made?
	When we compare people who commit violent acts against people who don't commit violent acts, brain differences begin to emerge.
	Is mass murder driven by an urge to kill or a wish to die?
	If we want to understand a murder or suicide, we need to start by understanding the suicide.
	Unlocking the mind of a rampage killer.
	Next time.
	Of course, we can see the brain activity at a very young age, but we can correct it with some medicine.
	Drugs.
	Yes, with some drugs.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Okay, wrapping up from my end, I guess there's a new SARS-like virus that shows person-to-person transmission coming up.
	This is very good.
	No more kissing.
	At least not with tongue.
	Bird flu in Germany.
	I thought there was bird flu in Mexico.
	Yes, there is.
	Well, I'm sorry.
	That is not just bird flu in Mexico.
	You know what that is.
	The war on chicken.
	That's right.
	They kill like half a million chickens or something?
	Yeah, some 500,000 birds have to be put down.
	Yeah.
	Or shipped to the U.S., one of the two.
	You're soaking in it now, Madge.
	Okay, let me see.
	Yeah, no, I think we're pretty much...
	I got some...
	In the show notes, which is at 488.nashownotes.com, we always have all the clips, the art, the credits, all the stories we've talked about, and more.
	There's a lot of stuff we just don't get to, so make sure you check out your daily show notes, 488.nashownotes.com.
	In that, I will put a link.
	If you're a sysadmin and you feel like contributing to the cartillary project, There's a Google group.
	You can go download the sources from GitHub and install it and help us out with some programming.
	There's a lot of work that still needs to be done.
	Or you can just set one up and run it for your friends.
	I have possibly an end-of-show clip, or you can play it now, which I want to get off the list because I'm going to keep sending it in until it gets played.
	We had Gore Vidal, if you remember, about eight shows ago from talking in 1968, 1969.
	Haven't we already done this clip?
	No, no.
	This is a new version.
	This is one that came late.
	This came 40 years later.
	This is one of the last clips he did before he died.
	But he's always been suspicious of the military-industrial complex, and he takes it for granted that the whole place has been taken over.
	But in this case, he slams a bunch of the...
	And you have to remember, he's a big-time progressive liberal.
	And he slams a bunch of the heroes of the left in a very funny way that's kind of depressing.
	We can play at the end or...
	Why don't we play it now?
	I was going to do a very short end-of-show clip of Cornel West calling Obama a war criminal.
	I thought that was kind of fun.
	That's always fun.
	Let's listen to Gore Vidal.
	Just to refresh our memory, this is not the shampoo guy, right?
	It's funny.
	Gore Vidal is related to Al Gore and all the gores that came before.
	Oh, really?
	And a very famous novelist, playwright, and all these other things.
	And he was blackballed early in his career.
	He's extremely gay, and he had written his first novel when he was 19 years old, and he got blackballed because it was about being gay.
	And, of course, that changed.
	Was he a gay hipster?
	I don't know if there are such things.
	No.
	are very simple.
	This guy's the bad guy, this guy's the good guy.
	We're gonna root for him, he may have his problems, but so...
	I see the world having been brought up in a political family I know the mixture that people are.
	Harry Truman did more harm to the United States than any president in our history and was one of the nicest and most honorable of men.
	But he replaced the old republic with a national security state with a cold war.
	As Charles Beard, the historian, said, we are now set for perpetual war for perpetual peace.
	And we've had 50 years of that, and yet he's venerated, you know, because he's a nice little man.
	People are mixtures.
	And if you're brought up in Washington, and your family's in the trade of politics, you know how complex people are.
	And I often say that one of the worst presidents of the United States was Jack Kennedy.
	In 1,000 days, he got us into an invasion of Cuba that failed, a missile crisis that nearly killed us all, and into the Vietnam War.
	I said, another 1,000 days and we would all be dead.
	I said, but weren't you his friend?
	I said, I was very much his friend.
	I adored Jack Kennedy.
	He was the greatest gossip that ever lived, among other things.
	He was a wonderful guy.
	He was a god-awful president.
	Now, can't you get the two things in your head?
	I don't know what it is that's been done to the American brain, but if you like somebody, everything he does is okay.
	You know, I do want to point out, you said...
	Obama.
	Well, you said that Gore Vidal said this before he died.
	You realize you said that, right?
	Yeah.
	You also realize that's kind of a ludicrous statement?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I think it was implying that it was before he died.
	Well, if he was talking after he died, then that would be awesome.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, I just thought it was...
	Now, looking back, it's a shitty clip, but it's beside the point.
	It's not a shitty clip.
	I like the clip.
	First of all, Truman was the one that instated the police state?
	No, no.
	In fact, the Dulles, John Foster Dulles, and then Alan Dulles, the guy who really started the CIA, the progenitor of the whole thing, that was all put into play by Truman in 1947.
	The state we're in began in 1947, all thanks to Truman.
	And like I said, it's a police security state.
	It's been a police state since 1947.
	Before 1947, you know, it was a good country.
	Truman, was that the election where he's holding up the newspaper that says Dewey wins?
	Yeah.
	So was that the first election that was stolen then?
	Possibly.
	What was Truman, a Democrat or a Republican?
	Democrat.
	I rest my case.
	Interesting.
	The War Party.
	Was that what he was?
	My dad used to always say, oh, the Democrats are the War Party and the Republicans are the Depression Party.
	Well, I guess we...
	He was only beginning to realize what he said.
	We win either way.
	At least we have a show.
	And we have a war.
	Yeah, either we have a war or we have a depression.
	Either way, we have a show.
	This is good news.
	Yeah, and I don't think it's changing anytime soon.
	No.
	All right, John.
	Hey, John.
	No.
	Can I say something?
	No.
	What no?
	What?
	I said, I want to say something.
	Just say it.
	Why are you asking for my permission?
	Because I want to make sure you're not on the slide whistle or doing anything else.
	No, I was going to get on the cowbell, but go on.
	I love you, man.
	Thanks.
	Coming to you from the boxes and soon from the, what was it, drone target number 33, the Crackpot Cabana.
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