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Adam Curry.
John C. Devorak.
It's Sunday, February 3rd, 2013.
Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 484.
This is No Agenda.
You're a documented American, coming to you from the capital of the Drone Star State, Austin Tejas.
In the morning, everybody, I am Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where things are a-hummin', I'm John C. Devorak.
It's Crackball and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Going along with the old theory that we always establish that all professional sports at the highest level are rigged.
Oh, that's right.
Today is the Super Bowl.
You're right.
I forgot about that.
I am the only guy you know who forgets about this.
Of course, but I don't.
Wait a minute, who's playing?
The San Francisco 49ers.
Yes, against.
Our local boys.
Yes, against.
And the Baltimore Ravens, the bad actors from Baltimore.
Oh, so first of all, they must be kind of the underdogs, because I never really heard of the Ravens.
If you'd asked me to name the Baltimore team, I would have been like Oreos, Blue Jays.
The Oreos?
Yes.
The Oreos.
Yeah, the Oreos.
The Baltimore Oreos.
I'm kind of white.
The Baltimore Oreos.
So I can tell you who's going to win.
This is a very easy one.
Okay.
It's going to be San Francisco, of course.
But why?
Because it's for the gays.
This will be broadcast on ABC, I presume.
No, I think it's on CBS. Really?
Hmm.
Yeah.
Well, really?
I thought last year...
It rotated.
It's one year, it's one...
Well, last year, the big show after the Super Bowl was The New Normal, which is the big gay show.
So I'm thinking, you know, this is...
I don't know if this is an homage to the gays.
Of course it is.
Have you seen how cute these guys' butts look in these outfits?
Come on, this is obvious.
The whole game is homoerotic.
The whole game is a gay game.
Come on.
Well, not as much as MMA. Well, they're groping each other.
But this is obviously a gay man's game.
It's like it's fun to watch them.
So, here's the real deal.
I appreciate your commentary.
Thank you.
I'll watch the Super Bowl.
You know I'll watch.
Although, there is a problem.
I can't watch the whole Super Bowl today because...
Why?
Because...
And I think he forgot when he asked me to help him.
Uncle Don's Gmail got hacked.
He needs me to try and help recover it or something.
We'll just do it after the show.
The game doesn't start until 3.30.
Oh, okay.
I'm just like, why don't you call the boys at the agency, Don?
I mean, they can just reissue the password.
I think that's going to be a lot easier.
He probably doesn't trust them.
No, he doesn't.
So 3.30 your time.
So that's 6.30 here.
No, that's 5.30 here.
Okay.
Yeah, you've got plenty of time.
Well, an hour and a half only, because by the time I'm done uploading, it's already 4 here.
All right.
Anyway, I'm telling you, San Francisco, I can even tell you the point spread.
Okay, hit it.
Six to nine.
Six to nine.
Swazzle enough, baby.
Two field goals versus three field goals.
I don't think so.
So here's the deal.
The NFL knows its numbers.
And he knows it's not dying.
This league is not dying, but it's got all kinds of issues with concussions and the audience is shrinking.
Literally dying.
You mean like the players are dying and the audience are dying?
No, no, no.
The league is not growing anymore.
It's stopped growing and the younger generation is not watching.
There's a lot of...
A lot of problems with the game itself, and that is also injury prone.
So they have to change the style of the game for two reasons.
One, they've got to lower the injury thing, and the second, which means they've changed a bunch of the rules, which changes the way the game can be played.
And they've got to make the game more exciting.
The 49ers are running a college offense that's semi-experimental called the Pistol.
And it's very exciting to watch because the other team's totally dumbfounded as this game progresses.
So they have to let the 49ers not only win but rack up the score.
It'll be a high scoring game for the Niners and it'll be a big disappointment.
There's no way the Baltimore team can win this and I would be stunned if they let them win it.
Well, it's 6-9 for the Niners.
It's not 6-9.
It's like 42-17 or something.
It's alright.
I'm telling you.
It could add up to 69.
That's what you're getting at.
Obviously there will be a swazzle enough somewhere.
There's no doubt about it.
It could be 33 to 3.
Now that would truly tickle me if that took place.
But anyway, John, I mean, this is all fine and dandy, but there's three other big events happening this month.
Okay, tell me.
Well, I have to say, Happy American Heart Month, Happy National African American History Month, and Happy National Teen Dating Violence Awareness and Prevention Month.
Teen Dating Violence and Prevention Awareness Month?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Who came up with that one?
Well, it's signed by the President right here.
I've got it in the ledger.
Signed by the President.
In the ledger.
I, therefore, Barack Obama, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution of the United States, do hereby proclaim February 2013 as National Teen Dating Violence Awareness and Prevention Month.
Where in the Constitution does it say that you can make these edicts?
Well, apparently...
Yeah, that's a good question.
I don't know.
I don't know.
He says according to the laws and the Constitution.
He's the boss.
He's not in the Constitution.
Well, we'll have to go check.
But it's like...
I mean, if I were African American, I'd feel slighted.
I mean, how come we have to share our month...
With the American Heart Month and the Teen Dating Violence Awareness Month.
That blows!
What is it implying about the Teen Dating Violence Awareness and black history?
No, no, it's not black.
Hello, it's not black.
They're pointing the fingers at black people for being violent?
What is this?
First of all, it's not Black American Month.
It's National African American History Month.
It's a little different.
So they have a history of violence with teen dating?
Is that what you're saying?
This is going nowhere fast.
Hi, welcome everybody.
I saw last night at the dinner and I said, you should listen to my show.
You'll love it.
You wouldn't tell us about this dinner.
This was...
So good news, we have a house.
This is good news.
And our realtors, John and Chris...
John and Chris!
Hey!
Woo-hoo!
So John and Chris, they do a lot for the gay community in Austin, and they have this dinner for the hospice.
It's called Transitions.
It's a charity dinner.
And so there's all these dinners at people's houses all over Austin.
And it's like $100 per person.
So you're spending some real money, but you get dinner.
And then each dinner has a theme, and we were their dinner, and it was Come to Cheese's.
Which is, come to cheeses.
Come to cheeses?
Cheeses, yes.
Blasphemous!
Totally!
So they start off with grilled cheese, literally with a Jesus in it.
You know, like how people see Jesus in the grilled cheese?
Oh, that's actually quite funny.
Yeah, it's a gay funny thing.
But the whole meal was all cheese.
And let me tell you, this is not a good idea.
No, you probably won't be able to poop for a month.
Oh, my God.
Then they had, you know, like onion soup, gratiné with cheese on top.
I see what you mean.
But they had a French thing, a grouget, gruyere.
It's like a piece of bread, but it's made out of gruyere cheese and egg, and they bake it, and it's kind of like, hmm, a grougere, I think is what it was called.
Damn it, I should have written it down.
So that was kind of nice.
Sounds like a croque monsieur.
No, no, no.
No, no, it wasn't a croque monsieur, but it was, it looked a little bit like a croissant.
Only it was...
Cheese.
It was basically cheese.
And then to wind it up...
Statue of Liberty.
Carved in cheese.
Cheese.
And then they had pear with Roquefort and pear schnapps.
So how many people were at this pear schnapps?
How many people were at this shindig?
About 20 people.
So do you have to do one now?
No, no, no, no.
Next year.
Well, we'll do it since this is our lucky day.
We got a house, John.
We have a house.
We've been saved.
We are in a 1917 house, built in 1917.
That's nice.
In Travis Heights, the oldest neighborhood in Austin.
And it's right off South Congress.
Is it a slum?
It's spotty.
Sketchy is the word.
No, spotty is the word we use.
It's spotty.
But it has everything we need, and we were pretty much lying on the lady's doorstep.
Because we've been striking out.
There's no inventory in Austin.
There's literally just no houses.
Right now Texas is the hot spot and Austin is at the hub.
I signed a check right there.
I said, we'll do the contracts later.
Here, cash this now.
So we're very, very happy.
So we'll be moving over the course of the next couple of weeks because we have to be out of here by the end of the month.
Anyway, so that's really the good news.
But so in the course of this dinner, I'm learning a whole bunch of things about Austin because these are all Austinites who were born and raised in Austin.
And are you familiar with our movies?
Was everybody gay?
No, no.
And I was hoping there would be some hot lesbians.
There were some women who came together to the dinner, but they weren't gay.
Oh, that's a shame.
Bummer.
I know.
I got gypped.
Have you heard of the Moonlight Towers in Austin?
No.
No.
So we have these, they were put up in the late 1800s, these 15-foot I'm sorry, 165-foot towers that are spread out around the town, and they are meant to be a facsimile of moonlight.
And they function quite well, actually.
I mean, it's like there's a full moon over Austin in town.
And I'd never noticed this.
I didn't know that these towers existed, but they were pointed out to me last night.
And these were put in place in 1885, After the servant girl annihilator was raging rampant in Austin, Texas, killing servant girls.
And he actually has a wiki page, the Servant Girl Annihilator.
And he was just killing servant girls.
Started first black girls, then white girls.
Kind of like Jack the Ripper style.
In fact, it was the same time.
Some people even think Jack the Ripper was the annihilator, that he got on a boat and went to London later.
And because everyone was so freaked out about this guy, they put up these moon towers.
Well, it turns out, looking at the...
Moonlight towers are lighting structures designed to illuminate the city at night.
The structures were popular across the country.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah, they had in Austin, Detroit, New Orleans, San Jose, which news to me...
I've never heard of these, and it looks like there's still a bunch of them besides the one in Austin.
I guess San Jose had one, but they tore it down, and it was built in 1881, which I believe was the early version of street lighting.
Right, right.
Across the United States, they're most common in the 1880s, 1890s.
Some places they were probably put in Austin because of this Annihilator.
Yes.
Because they were maybe resisting.
I just love the fact that they came up with the name for a serial killer in 1880 called...
None of this is new.
Servant Girl Annihilator.
Yeah, that's a good one.
That's a show title, by the way.
Servant Girl Annihilator.
Coming to you soon.
Starring Jack Black.
Wow, that was really bad.
So did you see these towers?
Yeah, because we were outside.
How many are there?
There's several.
I think there's 20 or 25 in Austin.
And the house that we were at, they were saying, oh, there's a moonlight tower.
I'm like, it looks like there's a stadium nearby.
No, no, no.
And then you look at it and you realize it's not stadium lighting.
It's a moonlight tower.
It's very different from stadium lighting.
And I was like, oh.
And then, you know, people were laying into this whole story.
I'm like, okay.
How tall is it?
Because the one they're showing here in San Jose, when it was there, it's not there obviously anymore.
One, two, three, four.
It looks like it's about 15 stories high.
It's like 160 feet high.
It's high.
It's up there.
It's up there for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So anyway, there were some people there.
These are Austinites, so you get to talking and people are not generally happy with what's going on in the world because that's why people live in Austin, because they're all smart here.
And then, you know, eventually, after, you know, they're tired of fawning over Mickey, that she's so awesome, and she's so beautiful, and, you know, and she's talented, you know, then they finally turn towards me, like, and what do you do?
And then, you know, my...
I'm a podcaster.
I'm a podcaster.
I also, I, yeah, I podcast.
That's like, that's almost like saying, I'm a blogger.
I'm a blogger.
I'm known in the blogging community.
It's a conversation.
It's a conversation.
We're engaged in conversation.
I'm having a conversation with my community who are very engaged on the blog.
I'm in the blogosphere.
Yeah, this is, that's kind of what it, so usually my stock answer is, I have a couple of them depending on, you know, so I didn't feel like saying government legislation analyst last night.
Like, ugh, some of these people might be legislation analysts for all I know.
And so, you know, I'm a bum.
That's my...
I'm a bum.
Did you say that?
Yeah, and people never question after I say that.
Yeah.
They're like, oh, yeah.
Well, okay, then.
All right, great.
Oh, gigolo, gigolo.
So, all right, Mickey, how are you doing again?
And then back to Mickey.
I'm a bum.
Yeah, it works.
I'm a bum.
Oh, okay.
They don't question it.
I'm telling you, John, they don't question it.
Now, a couple of people, of course, this is why I get invited, is the MTV thing.
They don't care.
That's the reason.
Yeah, but there's always people who remember from MTV. And people are like, I remember you, you're not there anymore.
Hey, it's been a while since I've seen you.
I said, yeah, well, you're an old fuck, that's why.
It's 20 years ago since I was on MTV, dude.
20 years ago.
But these people, it's the prime, you know, it's their prime.
You see them literally go like, hey, they get giddy when they see me.
I've seen that happen to this one guy.
And I'm thinking, jeez.
When he looked at me?
Oh, here's the Moonlight Tower in Austin.
This is a little different than the original ones.
The original ones were big tripods.
This is a straight-up thing.
Yeah, it's like a water tower, except there's no thing on top.
There's a lighting on top.
Yeah.
Serious business, man.
Serious business.
Apparently in Austin, which I guess has most of them, they had in 1976, they had one on 4th and Nueces.
Nueces, yeah.
We don't know how to pronounce it either.
The one on Monroe Street and 1st is still there.
Leland and Eastside is there.
The 1st Street and Waller is gone.
And they have them all.
You still have one.
You have about 20 of them or more.
There's a ton of them.
You're right.
Yeah, that's cool.
But this old Austin is really cool.
Two towers have been destroyed in traffic accidents.
Two have been blown down by cyclones and six victims of rust.
Oxidation strikes again.
So we're right down by the river.
Very excited.
Ah, mosquitoes.
And we have a widow's walk on the top of the house.
Oh, nice.
And so, unfortunately, you have to pull down an attic-type ladder to get up there, but then you see the entire city, and this house is right in the path of the bats.
Ooh!
So you go up there on the walk as the bats come over the house.
You're kidding.
I'm going to charge money for tickets.
I'm coming.
Now I am going to visit.
Yeah, we're right in the bat path.
How cool is that?
So they come out from under the bridge, you see the city in the background, and they fly right over the house.
Do they crap all over the house?
No, they eat the mosquitoes, though.
Oh, yeah, I'm sure they will.
Oh, that's true.
You won't get any mosquitoes because of those bats.
No, the bats are right there.
But do they crap on the house?
I didn't see any bat poop, although I will point out I am not familiar with the site and structure of bat poop.
Guano, it's called.
Guano?
Bat guano.
Why isn't it called poop?
Because guano is very useful as a nutrient.
In fact, it used to be bagged as guano and sold by the 50-pound sack for people who wanted to beef up their garden.
So you can ingest it?
No, no, no.
It's not for eating.
It's for gardening.
Well, good, because that's the only part of the house that's not so great.
Guano is quite tasty.
The garden needs work.
Ah, well, just the guano should help.
Yeah, but it has a little greenhouse, a little mini greenhouse.
So this is the perfect place for us.
It really is.
We're very, very excited.
You'll be rousted in six months.
What do you mean rousted?
What are you talking about?
You're selling the house.
You must move.
No, we have an ironclad contract on this one.
We're not getting rousted out of this.
Screw that.
I wish I could buy a place, but that's a joke.
A, I don't have a down payment, and B, no banks.
They won't even give me money for a car.
Hey, weren't you the guy who wanted the car and now you want a house?
Are you insane?
Are you insane?
Get out of here.
So, let's begin the show.
Yeah, we should.
Let me just say that the Pentagon, these guys are amazing.
I am so impressed.
The news comes out, and it was mentioned here and there, that the Pentagon is raising their cyber force, cyber force, cyber force, from 500 to at least 4,000, which of course means 40,000 probably.
And they're recruiting, they're everywhere.
We need to get some cyber.
If you've been listening to this podcast, and you are a sysadmin, or if you can do Perl, Or Ruby on...
I don't care.
Admins are the best, really.
If you've been listening, then you already have a high-paying job in the government for the military, as a contractor, most likely.
If not, this is the last time I'm going to tell you, this is where the big money is for you.
And this is time.
It's a bonanza.
It's fantastic.
And just to remind you, we have created this illusion that hackers are attacking our newspapers and tweets.
Twitter!
The social media giant Twitter says it has become the latest victim in a string of sophisticated hacking attacks.
Sophisticated hacking attacks.
Sophisticated.
Three newspapers.
Exposing users' private information.
Oh, John, my privates were exposed.
Did you feel it?
Experts believe the attack, which follows others launched against three of this country's largest newspapers, is the latest illustration of a dire need for more experts with training to prevent them.
Yay!
NBC's justice correspondent Pete Williams has more tonight.
This is worth listening to because it really shows you what is going on that we have been predicting for years.
At the offices of cyber watchdog Mandiant, computer security consultant for the Washington Post and New York Times...
This is the company that apparently let the attack go through.
...a constant vigil keeps watch for...
Good work, boys.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and then we go, oh, this is really good.
So they're going to have some douchebags from the company talking.
I love this.
These are, I mean, we know these kinds of douchebags.
...of attacks on them and other clients.
The company also devises ways to stay a step ahead to block attempted intrusions from succeeding.
There's always going to be some kind of gap that attackers can exploit, and very often we see companies haven't invested in responding to the fact that they will sustain a breach, and many times they're caught flat-footed when it occurs.
Wow.
It will happen.
It is a fact.
You will sustain a breach.
With cyber attacks on the rise against banks, news organizations, social media, and the systems that keep the country going...
I mean, does it get any better than that?
I mean, banks.
What social media?
Newspapers!
We're under attack!
There's a growing worry that the U.S. faces a serious shortage of people who know how to respond.
It takes a thousand hours of hands-on work just like a pilot.
Okay, excuse me.
A thousand hours just like a pilot.
Now, 40 hours to get your license as a pilot, okay?
Thousands of hours.
It's just like being a pilot.
It's dangerous work to carry the passengers safely from one side of the earth to the other.
You can't be a good pilot unless you've actually flown an airplane under pressure.
You can't be a good cyber person unless you've actually fought in cyberspace, either in a simulator or in the real world.
Okay.
John, when's the last time you fought in the cyber world in a simulator or a real world situation?
I've been in a real simulator, but...
Yeah.
No, but cyber.
You have to fight.
What is that?
He's talking about, have you fought?
Oh, wait, I know.
Is it Halo?
I think it's War of Warcraft.
I think that's what he means.
You fought.
You have to fight.
You're fighting in the world of Warcraft and it's a simulator.
Is that what he's talking about?
Yeah, of course.
Fighting in cyberspace.
Fighting.
We're fighting the hackers.
The need is exploding.
The Pentagon's U.S. Cyber Command has brought...
Where did you get this thing?
CBS? NBC. No, it's NBC....plans to bring 4,000 new computer security experts on board.
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano warns that the lack of experts nationwide is critical.
Okay, now go and...
Listen, they're coming to your campus.
The tickets should be encrypted here or not.
The University of Southern California is among a handful of the nation's colleges answering the call, preparing to offer a degree in cyber security.
Let me guarantee you one thing.
Do not go for the degree in cybersecurity.
You're not going to get hired.
That's not the guys they're recruiting.
Look for the challenges, the contests.
This is how you get recruited.
They put out contests all the time, like the Google Challenge, that kind of thing.
That's where you want to be.
You'll get recruited and hired for mucho buckos.
Yeah.
Whatever type of system that I'm going to develop for somebody, I'm going to make sure that it's secure.
In the past, if your computer got attacked, maybe you were worried about slow startup speeds.
Now they can actually affect your livelihood.
Educators say it's essential to start building the cyber workforce earlier.
In cyber workforce!
Schools and colleges, preparing for one part of the economy everyone agrees is expanding as the cyber threat spreads.
Unbelievable.
Obviously, you can see this one coming.
This is going to be overpopulated by the Indian bull crappers.
Oh, I'm here to protect your network!
Like the guys that they brought in early, you know, the CTO, Atik and the other guy.
What?
Who?
You know, the guy, Chopra and his buddy.
Oh, JJ, Vanjai.
Yeah, we already forgot their names.
They're so forgettable.
Those two guys are full of crap.
About the guy speaking COBOL and binary.
Skip logic.
The skip logic guy.
So that's the kind of guys that are going to be all over the place.
But it won't matter because this is bull crap.
There's no need for this.
And by the way, Twitter's hacked because apparently it turns out that Ruby essentially is damaged goods in the kernel.
Oh, Ruby on Rails?
Well, Ruby on Rails is a form of Ruby.
Gupta?
Yeah, it's no good.
It's no good, really?
And Twitter is based on it.
I think, isn't Ruby built into the Mac OS? Doesn't the Mac OS ship with Ruby?
Might.
It turns out to be, according to everybody I'm talking to, it's now known as a flawed product that can't be fixed.
Wow!
Well, thank you very much.
This is news.
Hello.
So I actually got one of those emails.
Did you get an email that you've been hacked?
No.
No, I got one.
From who?
From Twitter!
They told you that you got hacked?
Yes!
Yeah, that I was one of the lucky ones.
That I was one of the lucky ones.
Hold on, I'll read it to you.
Yeah, wait a minute.
Before you do...
Well, who is it?
Did it come from?
Twitter.com?
It came from...
Here it is.
Reset your password.
Twitter.
It came from Postmaster.
You know, bogative, whatever, at postmaster.twitter.com.
And hold on a second.
That's the...
So, Twitter received a request to reset the password.
Hold on a second.
I've got to go back to the search.
Where is...
Hold on.
I got nothing.
I got no letters.
I got to go to...
No, because they said it was like 250 people that this had happened to.
Do you have a lousy password?
No, no, no.
Something like, you know, I am great or something?
Twitter believes your account may have been compromised by a website or service not associated with Twitter.
Crap, where is the email address?
Because they had an email about...
Here's the last note I got from Twitter.
Do you know MC Hammer?
Jen and Eric Kotecki?
Do you know MC Hammer?
That's what it says!
That's a good one.
I like that.
Hold on.
Let me see if I can find this.
Twitter...
By the way, you can go in your settings, everyone who uses Twitter, and turn off all these notifications.
They keep sending you stupid crap.
Yeah.
Well, this is why it's kind of hard for me to find, because...
Wow, how come I... Oh, maybe it's here.
Damn, this is annoying.
Twitter...
Well, now I can't find it.
Well, that's okay.
But they said, like, my salted password had possibly been accessed.
You're salted?
Yeah, that's why I thought I saved this message.
What does this mean, salted?
Yeah, like the password had been, like, a salted password.
Assaulted?
No, not assaulted.
Salted.
Like salted?
Like table salted?
Yeah, that was the...
What does that even mean?
Well, hold on.
I'm trying to find this for you so that we can talk about this.
I'm feeling stupid now that I can't find it, because I know I saved it.
Ah.
Ah.
Okay, well look for it in the background.
In the background?
While I'm talking, just go do something else, so you don't understand the words.
While the other Adam Curry is working on stuff.
I don't know where this is.
Damn it.
Yeah, there was something about my salted password that may have been accessed.
And what's funny is I go in to reset my password, and I don't remember what my password is, so I do one of my passwords.
And it goes, oh, you can't use that password.
It's the same as the old one.
I'm like, well, gee, so they still have the old password on file.
The whole thing is bogative.
I don't believe this for a second.
Well, it could be.
I mean, I got hacked on Twitter once people started sending out, hey, go buy the, join the Popeil Club.
I've had that happen, too, but they said they had a breach of the system.
That's a little different.
What kind of information does anyone store on Twitter that's important?
Private.
Private info.
Hey, ooh, while we're on social networks, Mickey...
No, wait, before you go there, while you're talking about the Pentagon and the Defense Department, let's play the little Chuck Hagel clip.
By the way, it sounds like an alcoholic.
I hate to say this, but he just sounds drunk.
And he looks terrible.
Big bags under his eyes.
This guy's going to be a new Department of Defense secretary.
Yes.
And here he is answering questions.
I don't know.
I can't give you an example.
By the way, I've just been handed a note that I misspoke and said I supported...
The President's position on containment.
If I said that, it meant to say that, obviously, his position on containment, we don't have a position on containment.
The question is, were you right or wrong?
That's a pretty straightforward question.
I would like to answer whether you were right or wrong, and then you are free to elaborate.
Well, I'm not going to give you a yes or no answer.
Shut up!
Yeah, this guy is no good.
He is no good.
Why was he chosen?
I mean, who in his right mind...
Why?
Why was he chosen to be...
This is supposed to be the guy who's supposed to be the Secretary of Defense.
Now, I didn't like Panetta.
You know, he's a total a-hole brown people and sand killer.
But this guy, I mean, is he like a pacifist?
Is he supposed to be the new and improved, like, we're going to withdraw from Afghanistan, we're, you know, less wars?
Is this what the guy is supposed to be?
There's some evidence of that, but nobody likes him.
He looks like he's never gotten an hour of sleep in his life.
And he sounds like he's in the bag.
He sounds drunk.
Hammered?
Sounds hammered.
I can't come up with the word.
Hammered Hegel.
I try.
Hammered Hegel.
Hammered Hegel.
He sounds hammered.
Really?
That's interesting.
Poor dude.
But Kerry slipped by.
I think if you get it, by the way, go testify to Congress, get hammered.
You might as well.
But Hegel, he just slipped by.
I mean, Kerry, I mean.
He just went right through.
Well, no, you can't really complain about Kerry.
And it's kind of a secret weapon.
He can go out and bore you.
Can you imagine him?
He can bore you to me.
And he's just there.
Every nation will capitulate to all of our desires if they don't send Kerry.
We'll do what you say.
We'll do whatever you want.
Don't send that guy again.
Please, please.
His head is so big, it's long.
Go away with that.
It's so long for your head and he just talks so slow.
You know, I'm really, I have to say, I'm really going to miss Hillary.
I mean, what are we going to do?
People don't realize this is hurting the show.
It's not hurting the show at all, because it seems as if, if you listen to these clips, I got a show that was, what was it called?
Bonnie Urbay.
To the contrary.
It's on PBS. It's a horrible, horrible show with this host that is the worst woman in history.
She's terrible.
The worst woman in history?
Yes, I think so.
Okay.
Of all women.
This is the way the show began, the Hillary intro.
Okay.
I can't wait.
This week, an interview with former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
I sat down with her to talk about her incredible legacy for women and girls.
You have changed the world for women and girls.
Where did your passion for this issue come from?
I think it came from my childhood.
It probably came from learning about the difficult childhood my mother had and how important it was for girls to be given the same opportunities as boys.
I think it came from my own experience as a kind of tomboy, playing in the neighborhood and hearing every so often, well, you know, girls can't play.
It probably was something that was really a part of the atmosphere that I grew up in.
You can't stop saying, ah.
So here's an interesting thing in this little clip.
I have three of these clips, but this one...
This woman says, Hillary Clinton said this Urbay woman.
She says, Hillary Clinton has done more for women and girls, which is a meme, by the way.
The two of them keep constantly saying women and girls, women and girls, women and girls.
Maybe I could ask you, but I'm not absolutely sure what the point of that is, but they do it constantly.
Well, this is a big thing.
This is all part of the women drinking thing, women in combat.
Them bitches taking over, John!
We are on the down low!
We're going out, boy!
That's what's happening.
Yeah, I actually agree with what you just said.
Actually, if you've watched this whole thing, I would kind of be in agreement because when they start going into these international...
This is actually the beginning salvo of Hillary's run for the presidency.
And so she is emphasizing all these international leaders who are all women to get everybody into the mood.
Yeah, that's common!
And so we should just put Hillary in.
But the little thing in here was a little, the central question is kind of a trick.
Which, she says, Hillary's done more for women and girls, blah, blah, blah.
How did you get involved in this issue?
What issue?
If you listen to this clip, she says, Hillary, how did you get involved in this issue?
Women and girls are objects.
They're not an issue in and of themselves.
Women and girls, I'm helping women and girls.
What issue?
What's the issue?
Where's an issue?
I don't know what is the issue.
Well, they're suppressed, and no one likes women and girls.
We don't like women and girls.
Women and girls, bad.
It was never expressed that there were anything other than just women and girls, and there was an issue, but the issue was never verbalized in any way, shape, or form.
There is no issue.
It's a full issue.
Adam, I know you like to talk a lot.
How did you get involved in this issue?
What issue?
That's what you're supposed to say.
What issue?
What are you talking about?
What is the issue?
There's no issue.
That's the point.
I think the issue that...
It's the unspeakable issue.
There you go.
It's the unspeakable issue that women are clearly lesser than men in the world.
They are suppressed throughout the world.
And this is a fact.
It's a fact, John.
Don't even have to talk about the issue because it's a fact and you know it.
Everybody knows this fact.
The central question is, women and girls are suppressed.
So what do we do on these other clips?
Play one of these?
I like these.
How about more fawning?
Fawning is a good one.
He went from being as much maligned as First Lady by the right wing.
Maligned?
Maligned?
She wasn't maligned by the right wing.
Maligned?
To being the most respected woman in America.
Hold on, hold on.
Excuse me, the most respected woman in America?
No.
That would always be Oprah.
Okay?
Go away.
Perhaps the most famous woman in the world.
What does that feel like for you personally?
I really don't think about it.
It's true, but I don't think about it.
Wow!
I've been the same person my entire life.
I hope I've learned some things.
I hope I've become more effective in doing what I believe in doing.
But I think I've been pretty consistent in my professional and public activities.
So I don't think about it.
What I think about is how can I best use my talents and harness the talents of others here at home and around the world to keep trying to provide the same opportunities that I took for granted as that little girl all those years ago growing up in my neighborhood.
I am so grateful for the life I've lived and the opportunities I've had.
And I meet the most amazing girls and women everywhere.
And then I eat them!
This clip, you have your opportunity.
You should have nailed it.
I can't play it.
I mean, I can play it every single second.
Don't eat me!
So let me interject a little clip that we didn't play or talk about on Thursday's show.
This whole media love fest of Obama and Clinton, they were the celebrities of the entire 24-hour news cycle.
Lovefest!
The President and Hillary Clinton in a revealing and rare joint interview has everyone reading the tea leaves.
We're both glutton for punishment.
Was his high praise a first sign that she is his pick for 2016?
From the moment they sat down to talk with CBS News 60 Minutes, President Obama and Secretary Clinton seemed like they'd been the best of friends for decades.
This is extra, extra.
It's show business.
Show business for ugly people.
And they're not even that ugly.
Well, you know, obviously what's going on here, and we're going to see this.
This is why I don't think Hillary's out of the picture for the show.
We're going to not, there won't be a week that goes by where Hillary's not somehow in the news.
And I think what it is, she's so paranoid because she lost to Obama, you know, a few years back.
She wants to maintain her, you know, she doesn't want to stay as Secretary of State because she has to start organizing a campaign.
But the campaign really shouldn't begin until 2014 maybe or 2015, probably 15.
But she's fearful because she's so freaked about losing Obama the first time that she thinks that she can maintain her secretary of state status in the public eye and maintain herself in the public eye and kind of coast to the presidency.
But I think she's going to burn out the audience.
She's going to be, oh, not her again.
Oh, God.
Can this woman get off the stage?
And I think she's right now, because it's begun too early, she's already blowing it.
And Biden, by the way, can't be too happy about this.
He actually would like to run for president.
Yeah, he's going to be very problematic.
I agree.
I agree.
Well, she's 69.
She's swazzle enough right now.
No, she's not 65, isn't she?
I thought she was older than 65.
I think she's going to be 69 when she...
Oh, when she comes into office.
Well, let's take a look.
I know what we have to do.
What's going on?
And while you're in there, can you see how tall she is?
No height, but she's 65.
She was born in 47.
Okay, so she'll be 69.
Swazzle enough.
Interesting.
Interesting.
No height.
No height.
I have a feeling she's not tiny.
I don't think she's too tall.
I think she's probably 5'8".
Interesting.
You need to get her height somebody out there.
And then somebody has to put it in the Book of Knowledge entry.
Or just make something, do 4'9 and put it in there now.
Yeah, until somebody corrects it.
Actually, that's not a bad idea.
That's funny, right?
We should put that in there, see what she comes back with.
Bogative height.
Yeah.
And then...
Yeah, it's not in there, no.
And I still cannot find this.
I am so pissed at myself.
I saved this Twitter thing because, like, oh, this is interesting.
I was one of the 250,000 who apparently, you know, got hacked or whatever.
Yeah, well, apparently your email's hacked, too, and they took the message back.
They took it right away.
So before we continue, I want to say hello, Adam Curry.
Well, hello, John C. Dvorak, and in the morning to you!
Well, in the morning to you.
And in the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and the nights in the day.
Yeah, and if you got your ankles in stirrups, we're in the morning to you as well.
And to all of the human resources in the chatroom, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net, and all the human resources who successfully put Miss Mickey on the cover of the new Dutch photography book with our Like campaign.
Congratulations.
Yes.
So she won.
Yeah, by like thousands, thousands of likes.
Oh, well, that looks rigged.
No, not at all, especially when the comments are like, ITM, Millicent.
ITM. But it worked.
It worked.
Thank you all very much.
That was fantastic.
And thank you, Martin J.J., for the artwork on the previous episode of the No Agenda Show, the best podcast in the universe.
That was episode 483.
Today we are on episode 484, a nice palindrome, which, once again, we forgot to even mention.
Way to go, team.
Way to go.
Just plug along.
Oh, look what we missed.
I think we do have some people who are producing today's episode.
We are very similar to the Hollywood model, except no actresses to bang, no douchebag executives.
The only thing we do is we gladly credit the executive producers and associate executive producers of each individual episode.
Who contribute money to actually producing the program.
The only thing we don't do is commercials and product placement.
We don't have actresses to bang?
No.
I know.
Why are we even in this business?
Why are we doing this?
We're dumb.
This is crazy.
We are dumb.
That's funny.
Actually, before we thank our executive producers, I would like to play...
Now, this was caught early on by some of our producers out there.
Our listeners are producers in general.
On the National Treasure, NPR interviewed the CEO of Wikimedia.
And Wikimedia, who produced Wikipedia...
And this was an outstanding...
You really have to listen to this because, of course, we know the model for NPR is advertising or underwriting or whatever you want to call it.
We've known this for a long time.
And even last night at the dinner, you know, I'm like, you know, so how does NPR get funded?
Oh, it's by the listeners!
I'm like, really?
Do you hear every 15 minutes?
Do you hear something?
Uh, weather report?
No.
How about, um, you know, an ad where they say, Car Talk is brought to you by Pete's Auto Dealership, which is a local Austin dealership.
It's advertising for a local business.
And then there's national spots, but they just call it underwriting and support.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, okay.
Oh, okay.
So Wikipedia, do you know how they make their money, John?
Um...
I would hope that they have huge corporate interest giving them money to keep their huge corporate interest from getting slammed into Wikipedia.
It's a little more than two minutes, so it's a little long, but it's well worth it, and we'll have to discuss as it goes along.
And this is one of these...
People who very much like the Silicon Valley type say, right, after everything, just to accentuate, you know, I'm really good, right?
And what we know, fact, of course, that the No Agenda Show is the best podcast in the universe, right?
And that your name is John C. Dvorak, right?
And I'm Adam Curry, and I'm a loser, right?
But Wikipedia is brought to us by the Wikimedia Foundation.
Sue Gardner is the executive director, and she is the lucky winner on today's installment of Conversations from the Corner Office.
Sue, I guess it's a prize if you're on the show.
That's a good...
I like that, Jake.
We can do that.
You're the lucky winner of today's...
Lucky winner.
That's why you hate nothing.
It's good to have you with us.
Thank you.
You know, so it occurred...
I'm sorry, stop.
Yeah, what?
What was your name?
Susan what?
Uh...
I just wanted to look her up while I'm listening.
Yeah, let's listen again.
I forgot.
Wikimedia Foundation.
Sue Gardner is the executive director.
And she is the lucky winner on today's installment of Conversations from the Corner Office.
Sue, it's good to have you with us.
Thank you.
You know, so it occurred to me as I was thinking about talking to you that you guys and public radio kind of have a similar business model, right?
You create all this content and then you have to go out and ask for money to help support it.
So, phew, heads are whipping around in cars all across Gitmo Nation as no-agenda producers are turning up their knobs.
Let's listen to this one.
This is going to be great.
You have the same business model.
It's like you don't sell ads.
You just ask people to support you, right?
Yeah, that's exactly right.
In fact, it's funny, I come from the CBC, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, and it was funny that I did make my way to a kind of NPR-esque model.
It's different from the CBC, but it's how American public broadcasters support them.
Yeah, we just ask people who like us to give us money.
How's it working for you?
I mean, how much time do you spend out there, you know, on the hustings?
And so this guy is such an a-hole that he knows that they sell ads.
He's like, how's that working out for you, stupid idiot?
How's that working out for you?
The guy does sound douchey as funny.
Oh, hey, how's that working out for you?
It's fantastic.
Practically none.
I mean, it's amazing.
We do an annual campaign every winter, and this year we made $2.7 million a day.
Stop the press!
Whoa!
$2.7 million a day.
Crap.
But that's during their campaign.
Their campaign, I think, lasts for a month.
It's on for a long time.
So they're doing 50 million bucks?
Well, in 2011, she had a salary of 196 grand.
Oh!
Wait a minute.
If this is a foundation, do they have a Form 990?
Oh, my goodness.
Wikipedia Foundation's got to have a Form 990.
Okay, let's continue to listen to this great interview.
From 430K a day last year, so it's going really, really well.
They went from 430,000 a day to 2.7 million a day.
A day, John.
Wow.
That's what you have when you have reach.
You totally need to call your local public radio station.
Yeah.
We're in touch.
I'm looking at the wikipedia.org homepage here in the studio as we're talking.
And, you know, it's the one that lists all the various languages.
So this is a little off topic, but I just want...
I left this in so you can hear her say, right, right, right, right.
You guys have Wikipedia's in.
And it is...
First of all, overwhelmingly English, overwhelmingly Western, not a whole lot of minority representation there.
I mean, what are you guys doing to sort of broaden the bandwidth, as it were, of Wikipedia and what you guys do?
Yeah, Wikipedia is actually available in 286 languages, right?
So it's pretty much available in every language that is spoken by a reasonably large number of people around the world.
I mean, it's available in languages like Cree, for example.
Queef?
What language is he saying?
Cree, I think the Indian language.
I thought he said queef.
I was like...
I speak queef.
But you're right when you say that, um...
English is the most edited, right?
And people in developing countries tend to be disproportionately editors.
But still, we aspire to broaden out the diversity of the folks who are contributing to Wikipedia so that it will be better and richer and stronger and smarter and more useful for people.
Smarter.
Here's another problem for you guys, and you wrote this in an op-ed in the LA Times the other day.
Nine out of ten Wikipedians, as you call them, are men, which can't be good for diversity.
Yeah, it's not good at all.
It's actually the single thing that kind of troubles me most about our editing community, right?
It stems from, I think, the origins of the project.
So when people were first interacting online in 2001, the folks who were interacting online tended to skew heavily, heavily male.
So we started there.
So we badly want to recruit more women.
We have a number of activities designed to do it.
Here it comes.
Here it comes, John.
Are you sitting down?
Yes, another thing that will appeal to the public radio aficionado in you, and the sensitivity of what I'm about to talk about, when are you going to start putting ads on Wikipedia to pay for things?
Sorry, what?
When are you going to start putting ads, or as we call them in public radio, underwriting?
As we call them in public radio, underwriting.
Underwriting.
But her answer is equally as stunning.
On Wikipedia to start painting her things.
When are we going to start doing that?
Yeah.
We're never going to do that.
Never.
No.
Never's a long time, Sue.
Yeah, and we do hedge a tiny little bit, right?
Like if it were a choice of putting ads on Wikipedia or shutting down Wikipedia, we would then very reluctantly consider putting ads on Wikipedia.
Okay, lovely.
Wikimedia Foundation in 2011, as they have filed their Form 990 timely...
Are they keeping it up to date, unlike the Clinton Foundation?
Yes, they have filed in time.
This is 2011, so they're okay.
$27.191 million of income.
That's nice.
That's awesome!
Yeah, no, that's amazing.
More power to them.
Let me see what people are making over there.
So, Sue Gardner, $196,878.
Veronique Kessler, the CFO. These are decent.
These are okay salaries.
For CFO, $135K is actually on the low side.
Yeah, but he only works once a week.
Yeah, true.
The deputy director...
And she's just signing a check for the servers.
Yeah.
And the public is the one who does all the work.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
So their total salaries and wages is $5.5 million.
Because I guess they're paying a lot of the editors now.
Yeah, I think you'd have to eventually do that.
You know, I have to say that as much as we use it just to do some fact-checking, even though it's not a great source.
I say it's fine.
They should make all the money they can.
No, I'm in agreement.
But I just think the killer is that NPR guy.
Once again, confirming the other NPR person.
Advertising, whatever you want to call it.
Interesting.
I'm sorry.
They filed 2011 as their 2010.
That's weird.
So they haven't filed a 2011 yet.
Oh, but she's making more money then.
Must be.
Well, if she was doing $2.7 million a day, their campaign runs for a lot longer than 10 days.
No, she said a month, didn't she?
No, I said a month.
Either way, as we call it in public radio, advertising we call underwriting.
Please.
Please.
Well, let's thank some of our underwriters, John.
Yeah, we got some.
We got some underwriters.
We call them producers.
That's right.
Executive producers, no less.
We got one, two, three.
It looks like maybe we have enough today, that's for sure.
Four executive producers.
We're back on track.
This is what it should be.
This is what it should be.
This is good.
Howard Johnson in Gloucester, Ontario came with $596.67.
He'll be an executive producer.
Just listen to JCD's rant on the show 458, which is a while back.
What was that rant all about?
That's the one where I moaned and groaned about stuff.
This brings me up to value to value for 500 shows and hence a night.
Get with the program, boners and douchebags.
He would like a Parliament mumble, a little girl yay karma.
Yay!
Wow!
All right.
You've got karma.
Thank you very much, and he will be knighted today, Sir Hojo.
Hojo.
Sir Hojo.
Michael Pettigrew in Huntsville, Alabama.
I think there's rockets there.
$369.
Dear John and Adam, have donated $369 as a $369 damn girl fine.
$369 damn girl fine.
Nice.
Donation from my smoking hot wife, Amy.
Send pictures.
Our four-year anniversary is the 14th of February, and since she is a few episodes behind...
They got married on Valentine's Day, John.
I'm eliciting response.
You know, what's interesting, I think what he's done here by wisely getting married on Valentine's Day is cut out of the equation one extra day of gift giving.
One extra bullcrap is a commerce day.
One extra bullcrap day.
The guy's a genius.
Where's my Valentine's?
Where is it?
He's a genius.
It is.
This is genius, Michael.
Genius.
I'm sure the wife, she hasn't caught up to this yet.
Maybe she'll hear it.
And she'll, wait a minute!
I've been scammed out of an extra gift!
I've been scammed out of a gift!
Our four-year-old anniversary, the 14th of February.
And since she is a few episodes behind, I hope she hears this around then.
Next to this podcast, and she's going to want candy.
Next to this podcast, she is the most underappreciated genius of our time.
Oh, this guy's good.
I love this.
Can I get a few jingles that represent a typical day at her work as a scientist?
Boss, what are you learning?
Amy, I have information, man.
New shit has come to light.
Boss, shut up, slave.
Okay, the what are you learning thing is Wolf Blitzer.
Wait a minute, do I still have that somewhere?
I wasn't prepared for that.
Hold on a second.
Crap.
Wasn't that from the last show?
Yeah, I think it was.
No, it was about the lip-sync.
Yeah, what are you learning about the lip-syncing?
Beyonce.
We should be singing at the Super Bowl and we'll all have our eyes on it.
While I'm looking for this clip, did you see, by the way, how shamelessly Beyonce and the NFL pinned to the national anthem to promote the damn Super Bowl?
Did you see this?
This is marketing at its best.
I study it.
I know, but it was shameful.
Nobody sees it that way.
And by the way, sorry, but Beyonce wasn't all that great doing that national anthem on stage.
I'm sorry, it just wasn't that great.
No, she needs to be in the studio with a lot of those pieces of gear you've got over there.
What?
My auto-tune?
My auto-tune?
I mean, basically...
A bunch of auto-tune, all kinds of stuff.
Load it up.
I actually sound like a hamster in real life, but I auto-tune myself.
I can't find the what are you learning, but I've got the other ones.
I've got information, man.
New shit has come to light.
Shut up, slave.
There we go.
You've got karma.
I'm sorry, I wasn't able to get you the what are you learning.
But we talked about it enough.
What are you learning?
What are you learning?
Brian Rubinton in New York City.
Here's three, 33, 33, three straight from the vampire squid's tentacles to your pockets.
Ooh.
Please enjoy the fukers and blow.
Wish a merry dedouching after five long and douchey years.
He hasn't given, I guess.
And give my brother Evan a shot of karma.
He needs a job.
So it sounds like Brian works for the Goldman's?
Could be.
Start from the vampire squid's tentacles.
D-douching for you, sir.
You've been de-douched.
And the karma for your brother, Evan.
You've got karma.
Hope he gets a job.
Well, I mean, it makes sense.
Only the Goldman guys really understand the 33-33.
I mean, they're in on that.
They actually know what it means.
You're right.
When we don't, we just notice it.
Yeah.
Monica Lansing in Drayton Valley, Alberta, I guess.
Uh, 33333.
I asked for some cash karma a few weeks ago with the promise to send more money if the karma worked.
Well, it did!
Hey now.
So sending another donation.
Keep up the great work.
Please send some huntsman karma to all of today's donators.
You've got karma.
This is Parker Snyder, Grand Prairie, Texas.
Comes in an executive, associate executive, producer $209.67.
Kettle, this is the pot calling.
$69.69 times 2 constitutes my donation amount this week.
Well, I don't know about you, but $69.69 times 2 doesn't seem to add up to $209.67, but okay.
I have been a listener since episode one and was a periodic donor and remember the day I recorded the bumper portion for episode 99 and was elated when I heard it.
Now since then, I've finished my surgery, seven of them since episode 99.
I can finally help refill the coffers for Crackpot and Buzzkill.
I'm beginning a new journey towards knighthood for myself and my son and I want the show to help succeed into the year's My son can recognize how real journalism works.
To Adam, Dallas is a really nice place, and in the event you truly are left with nowhere to turn, you can always have an emergency bunker in Dallas.
You can count on to live out of a zero cost as it would be my honor to facilitate your continued success for you and Miss Mickey.
It may not be amazing, but it's a 3,000 square foot home of which my wife, son, and I, you only use three rooms.
Mickey, pack up the truck!
Leaving the rest for a refugee.
I would like some karma for me and both of you for the best show in the universe.
Oh, that's great.
Well, actually, I'll give you a kettle and pot karma.
That's what you talked about there, so...
Hello, kettle?
This is the pot calling.
You've got karma.
That's very, very kind.
Thank you.
That's very kind.
We also, we have a root cellar.
Ooh, you can grow mushrooms in a root cellar.
Yeah, or it would be the new bunker.
I would grow chanterelles because they're the safest mushroom to grow.
They're very identifiable.
They're never going to be poisonous.
Chanterelles?
Yes, the chanterelle mushroom.
Delicious.
Gene Naftuliev in Frisco, Texas.
Sir Gene!
Sir Gene's not listening to Sir.
It is.
I forgot to mention, John.
Happy Ram Day!
Yes, today is Rand Day.
So if you get a present, I'm going to PayPal a donation, but with the text C note, this is the note.
So I'd like a happy birthday for somebody named Ann Rand.
I guess he's married to her.
On the birthday call out and this quote, see if John knows where it's from or who said it.
Civilization is the process of setting man free from men.
It's from The Fountainhead, which John claims to have read along with Atlas.
Hold on.
I'm going to tell you this.
Hold on one second.
Fact is, Buzzkill Jr., you're not supposed to put the answer to the quiz for John in the spreadsheet.
Oh, what a shame!
He's shilling on your side!
You know, I'll short him on the ribbed dinner, you know.
Because the whole idea was, you always say, well, I read The Fountainhead.
The book is like 1,200 pages.
I'm supposed to remember every quote in it?
Yes.
Well, yeah, if I was nuts.
And this, by the way, is a 2-0-2-0-2, because Ayn Rand's birthday was on 2-0-2-0-2-2, February the 2nd.
So that makes it super nice.
Yeah, but that one maniac remembered this.
Here we go, Sir Gene!
By Ayn Rand.
Oh, did you do something like a noise?
Because I cut your mic off.
Ross Owen in Boston, Massachusetts.
Nuts.
201.39.
Another associate.
First time donor.
Can't wait to put the producer credit on my resume.
Please give me a much needed shout out to my website.
Pasta Run Music.
It's the no agenda of the music business in that it is the best blog in the universe.
Please give me some karma on my quest to quit smoking.
And thank you for making me distrustful and paranoid.
You're not trying to do that.
You're very welcome.
I'm looking at pasta-run music right now.
So let me say about your smoking.
Get your grains.
Pasta-run music.
That's a nice-looking webpage, by the way.
Give me this karma.
Yeah, I'm just looking at this for a second.
Give me a moment.
Give me this karma.
Here it is.
I got it.
It's nice.
You've got karma.
You know what?
Smoke, just quit.
John, how much of a smoker was I? You were terrible.
What does that mean?
You were rolling your own, so you're getting the highest grade strong tobacco.
And did you ever actually see me without a cigarette in my mouth?
Yeah, it wasn't in your mouth, but it was over in the area.
It was in the vicinity of your mouth.
You weren't the type that talked with a cigarette in your mouth.
That's the worst.
No.
You've got an area of the teeth that are blackened by smoke.
But where would we have meetings, you and I? Outside.
Why?
Because you had to be smoking all the time.
Yeah, exactly.
And if we went to dinner, what would invariably happen at dinner?
You had to smoke.
Yeah, and I'd go outside and smoke.
I've been a smoker for 33 years, rolling my own, and I just quit.
I just said, no mas.
I'm no longer a slave to the man.
Of course, my lovely wife quit with me, and that was our wedding gift to each other.
There's something about that.
Because, you know, it's like, if you then start smoking again, then you're a total a-hole.
Because then you, like, took back the wedding gift.
That's a good bit.
Right?
Yeah, it's a cute little idea.
And so we both quit, but the first two weeks were hard.
And I quit on a Wednesday, and we had the show on Thursday, and smoking during the show was really my thing.
I mean, people don't realize it, but all that bitching and moaning about, oh, I hear your lightning clicking.
Stop clicking your lightning.
Your lightning's clicking.
I don't get a million people saying, hey man, that's great that you stopped smoking.
I don't hear your lighter click.
No, no one's emailing me that.
Of course.
And so it's two weeks is hard.
But then, you know, it goes in force for me.
It's like four days.
Hey, now all of a sudden we've done four weeks.
Now we've done four months.
And it might as well be four years or four decades.
So we are now at, we're in our sixth month, half a year.
Half a year smoke-free.
And all they do is talk about it.
No, I don't talk about it.
That's bull crap.
Onward.
Anyway, yeah, he's probably right.
Just go cold turkey and just gut it out.
Yeah.
What's it like when you go cold turkey?
Do you get the shakes?
No.
No.
You do like to suck penis more.
Onward.
Andrew Harms from Great Bend, Kansas comes in as our last associate executive producer.
Checking in with some value for value.
Great work, guys.
No requests.
Andrew Harms.
KC0WII. That's right.
KF5SLN says, 73's to you.
Okay, that'll conclude our executive producer, associate executive producer segment.
We want to thank all these people for helping produce this show, show 484, a memorable number.
And make sure to go to devorek.org slash NA to continue the support.
And also channeldivorek.com slash NA. Noagendanation.com and noagendashow.com have buttons you can click on and hopefully go to devorek.org slash NA. And, you know, don't leave us hanging, you know?
It's like you definitely got to keep the support going so we can...
What is that?
Are these jingle bells I'm hearing?
No, no, the jingle bells I've retired.
This is a tambourine.
Oh, okay.
Well, that's good.
Of course, you can always help us out very simply by going out and propagating a formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
New World Order Hey, citizen.
New World Order Shut up, slave!
So I'd like to talk about the New World Order for a moment, if you don't mind.
I love talking about the New World Order.
This will also wrap up our international Hillary Lucifer Rodham Clippity-Clop Clinton segment, and we probably should just do a little Clippity-Clop for her, since we won't be doing it that often, I'm afraid.
The message is clear.
That's right.
That's right.
So she was speaking at her favorite drinking club, the Council on Foreign Relations, which of course is totally my favorite drinking club, A, because they won't allow me in it, and B, it's where people decide what the New World Order is going to do to ruin our world.
So, a very interesting speech, and I encourage everyone to listen to it in its entirety, because it is full of elitism and America, F-Yay, and we're just going to go and kill everybody and run the world.
That's pretty much, seriously, what her speech is about.
You can find it in the show notes, 484.nashownotes.com.
But I did pull a little clip here which shows how she, as our future president, is a member of the New World Order Illuminati and plans to continue the destruction of the Earth.
At the same time, we face challenges from financial contagion to climate change to human and wildlife trafficking that spill across borders and defy unilateral solutions.
As President Obama has said, the old post-war architecture is crumbling under the weight of new threats.
I love this.
This is great.
It's crumbling, John.
It is crumbling away.
So the geometry of global power has become more distributed and diffuse as the challenges we face have become more complex and cross-cutting.
So the question we ask ourselves every day is what does this mean for America?
Every day I get up too and I think, what does it all mean for America?
Not what does it mean for humanity or for the children, but what does it mean for America, my America?
And then we go on to say, how can we advance our own interests and also uphold?
How can we go kill some people so we can go steal their crap?
A just, rules-based international order.
There you go.
That's it.
A just, rules-based, international order.
Shut up, slave!
A system that does provide clear rules of the road for everything from intellectual property rights to freedom of navigation to fair labor standards.
Rules of the road, slave!
Can't you read the rules of the road?
Didn't you take your living license test?
Simply put, we have to be smart about how we use our power.
Stop, stop, stop.
Can you back it up a little bit?
I want to get to three.
She had Copyright Ocean Act, which is what she's referring to, and there was a third one.
Was it climate change?
Hold on.
Go back.
I'm going back.
Just a little bit.
Rules of the road for everything from intellectual property rights to freedom of navigation to fair labor standards.
Fair labor.
Ah, slavery.
Ha, ha, ha.
Slavery.
Slavery.
Let's see.
So it's the Law of the Sea Treaty, which is basically taking away turf.
What was the second one?
No, the first one was copyright.
Copyright.
SOPA, PIPA, all that stuff.
Right, SOPA, PIPA, and then the Ocean Act.
We own the copyright in your DNA. So, you know, you want to eat that pig?
Sorry, that's copyrighted by Monsanto.
So they own the pig.
Then it's the Law of the Sea.
Was it the Ocean's Treaty, Ocean's 14?
What is it?
Yeah, whatever it is.
More UN stuff.
Take away your oil and your property.
And then slavery.
So make sure that you remain slaves and serfs.
Simply put, we have to be smart about how we use our power, not because we have less of it.
Indeed, the might of our military, the size of our economy, the influence of our diplomacy, and the creative energy of our people remain unrivaled.
No, it's because as the world has changed, so too have the levers of power that can most effectively shape international affairs.
Now she wraps this up with just a beautiful comparison, and it blew me away that this is what she's actually suggesting.
I've come to think of it like this.
This is Hillary's philosophy, ladies and gentlemen.
Pay very close attention, and for those of you who aren't familiar with architecture, get the Googles ready.
Truman and Acheson were building the Parthenon with classical geometry and clear lines.
The pillars were a handful of big institutions and alliances dominated by major powers.
And that structure delivered unprecedented peace and prosperity.
But time takes its toll even on the greatest edifice.
And we do need a new architecture for this new world.
Now, John, of all of the architects...
This is a question, an Ask John question.
So she is saying the architecture, the underpinnings, the foundation of our current day world are crumbling under the heavy weight of us trampling on everybody.
And so we need to make it look better.
We need a new architecture for a new rules-based order.
What architect could you compare her vision to?
I don't know.
You tell me.
You know a little bit about architecture.
Well, I mean, if she wants to go with modern architect and she wants to go with that glass house I.M. Pei look...
You know, where everything is a tall glass building as compared to what you were getting from the Truman.
I don't know where she credits him for, but okay.
I think she may be referring to the Truman establishment of the CIA. No, she's talking about the Parthenon.
She's talking about Greek architecture.
Truman designed the Parthenon.
Yeah.
The Parthenon.
Well, then you would go from there to, I don't know, some Renaissance structures, or you'd go, I don't know what she's up to.
It sounds to me, to be honest about it, that this is all a frontispiece for another attack on the Constitution.
Well, let's listen to her favorite architect for the new, this is what you can look forward to when she's swazzle enough in four years, President Hillary Clinton.
More Frank Gehry than formal Greek.
Oh my God!
Ha ha!
Now, for those of you who don't know Frank Gehry, personally, I love Frank Gehry as an architect.
But this is not the...
I mean, it's like, are we going to be high in this world all the time?
Frank Gehry is like...
He is.
He's a genius.
But he's the one, for people who aren't familiar...
Just Google it.
He makes these gobbled...
The best bit was he was on The Simpsons once.
As a guest star, and they were trying to talk him into building the local, the new theater because Homer burnt down the place or something like that.
And so she goes to Frank Gehry and asks him if he would be the architect of this whole thing.
And she hands him a piece of paper and he looks at it and says, no, I can't do this.
This is beneath me.
And he crumples up the paper and throws it onto the ground.
And then he looks at the crumpled up paper and he picks it up and he goes, oh my God, there it is.
I'm a genius.
The crumpled pieces of paper.
And that's what his designs look like.
They look like crumpled up pieces of paper.
Like the dancing buildings, which I think is one of his more recent pieces.
I mean, it's fantastic.
I mean, it's really amazing to look at.
They're very pretty.
But is that going to be the foundation of our government?
It's like buildings on crack?
A building that looks just too screwy and is very expensive.
Like we're all expensive and we're all on acid.
That's basically, that's the message.
That is the foundation of the new international rules-based border.
So here's the subtext of this.
Ready?
Yeah.
She wants Frank Gehry to design her house.
She's exactly right.
You're so right.
You're spot on.
I give you a ding for that.
Of course.
She's like, I want Frank Gehry to do it for free.
And I kiss his ass because he doesn't do houses.
He's not a big house guy.
But he would for her.
So we can put it in the red book.
Frank Gehry designs house.
Designs house for Hillary.
A good one.
I'm down with that.
I hadn't even thought of that angle yet.
But put it in the book, please.
That's very good.
It's very, very good.
In it goes!
So people, don't send me the Twitter password...
Oh wait, maybe this is the...
Yes, here it is.
I've got the Twitter email.
An hour and 25 minutes and you finally found it.
Would you like me to hear the email?
Yes, please.
Because the salt thing is interesting.
Dear Twitter user...
I'm a user.
Hey, crack addict!
As a precautionary security measure, we have reset your Twitter account password.
Check your inbox for a separate email from Twitter with instructions on how to reset your password.
Blah, blah, blah.
We recently detected an attack on our system in which the attackers may have had access to limited user information, specifically your username, email address, and an encrypted-slash-salted version of your password.
Not the actual letters and numbers in your password.
There you go.
Encrypted slash salted version.
Alright, whatever that's supposed to indicate.
It makes me feel good.
At least I know that my password is salted.
Come on.
He's pepper.
So we had the last show we did, we talked about the simulated attacks on Miami, and then we discovered L.A. So someone sent us a note.
And Houston.
One of our producers.
A list of all the cities.
Oh, I didn't see this note.
Oh yeah, all the cities that they did this, where they ran a bunch of helicopters and simulated shooting cars on the freeway and kind of just messing with the public at large.
You want to hear the list of cities that they did this in?
Was this coordinated all on the same day?
Well, let me see.
There's a bunch of articles hooked up.
I'm almost of the opinion that it was.
What was the date that one took place in Florida?
No, the Minneapolis one was in August.
It was August 27th.
So no, I guess they spread a few of them out.
Minneapolis-St.
Paul.
Yeah.
Denver.
Yeah.
Houston, which we reported.
Galveston.
Los Angeles, which we reported.
Laredo.
Miami, which we reported.
Chicago.
Yeah, but there's always some military thing going on there.
Yeah, well, I guess nobody noticed.
Boston.
Wow.
St.
Louis.
Worcester Mass.
Long Branch.
Lancaster.
And that's it.
Wow.
But that's a lot.
Why is the public putting up with this?
Yeah, well, because, you know, if it will protect our kids, I'm all for it.
Do it in the San Francisco Bay Area and listen to them squawk.
That would be funny.
Wow.
Do it in San Francisco.
Come on, weenies.
Let's do it in San Francisco.
I'll bet you, you know, they will, and no one will, and it'll be people like, yeah, whatever.
Oh, it's, it's, it's, no.
People are not, the people are asleep, John.
They are, they're deep, deep, deep, deep sleep.
You're sleepy.
Another producer sent in a note.
Listening to the discussion on the Sundays, a couple Sundays ago, about healthcare providers, you're 100% correct.
It's a generic term used to refer to whoever is providing your healthcare service.
It may refer to an MD, DO, physician's assistant, family nurse practitioner, or even an RN. I'm currently in nursing school and I'm shocked at the changes rolling through the healthcare system.
They are pushing many procedures downstream to lower levels of providers to save money.
It's having a massive effect on the acute care hospital setting, for example.
They have increased the level of acuity on the regular med surge and telemetry floors.
Cases that used to be sent to the ICU are now sent to the floor.
ICU is expensive with a mandated patient-to-nurse ratio of 2 to 1.
The floor that he's talking about has a much more relaxed ratio of 4 to 1.
I'm not sure if it's a man or a woman because I actually crossed off the name because I didn't want to be mentioned.
Plus, like any profession, there are some really good nurses and some not-so-good ones.
Typically, the really astute ones are in critical care, and it goes on and on.
Wow.
But yeah, apparently, the whole system is being revamped to just take your money.
It's funny you bring that up, because in the Federal Register...
As you know, this is something that all journalists should...
You can, like, get an RSS feed.
You know, you can...
I think they'll even do...
They'll even email you updates when something's new on the Federal Register.
But, you know, why would any journalist, you know, do anything?
You know, like, look at this.
Too much work.
Article appeared on the 1st of February...
Shared Responsibility Payment for Not Maintaining Minimum Essential Coverage is the title of this particular document, which contains proposed regulations relating to the requirement to maintain minimum essential coverage enacted by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act 2010 as amended by the TRICARE Affirmation Act and Public Law 111-173.
These proposed regulations provide guidance on the liability for the shared responsibility payment Shared responsibility payment.
That's actually what a donation is to no agenda.
It's a shared responsibility payment for not maintaining minimum essential coverage.
This document also provides notice of a public hearing on these proposed regulations.
This is essentially an IRS document because, as you know, the IRS will be checking to see if you are maintaining your minimal health care insurance.
And if you have a job, unless you're a bum, and then you have to pay something.
If you don't, or you have to carry insurance, health insurance, if you don't, then you will be penalized.
And they've put in here, and this is what's very interesting, a key...
This is like trying to understand your taxes.
It is literally a part of your taxes.
And you're like, okay, how am I going to calculate how much I would have to owe if I don't have health insurance?
And a couple things I want to point out about this document.
One, exempt individuals.
Many individuals are exempt from the shared responsibility payment.
Including those some whose religious beliefs conflict with acceptance of the benefits of private or public insurance and those who do not have an affordable health insurance coverage option available.
I like that it says many individuals because I'd like to be one of the many individuals.
So I might have to find God or something because what it boils down to And I have not been able to calculate this by myself, but I've been looking at many experts around the blogosphere.
And the way they calculate it, essentially, for a family of five, the lowest possible coverage on an annual basis in 2016, because it ramps up, will be $20,000 per family.
So you're looking at $4,000 of insurance per slave per year.
And if you do not carry insurance, that's what you will have to pay in additional tax, including for every person you are responsible for.
You have to pay $20,000 in taxes if you're not insured?
Correct.
I didn't know the number was going to be that high.
That's outrageous.
For a family of five.
Yeah, well, okay, the average family, let's say, is four.
And that's in 2016.
This starts in 2014, where it will be about half.
They ratcheted it up at, what's the first year, is there any family event?
It's half.
Yeah, yeah, no, but the amount will be about half, about $2,400.
Only $10,000.
Yeah, per slave, yeah.
So I'm thinking...
There may actually be...
Wait, let's find a religion that gets exempt and let's buy stock of that religion.
I think Islam is one of them, actually.
Funny enough.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
Asimalaikum, Brother John.
Hey, come on.
We can just do that.
In the Asamalikum, Brother John.
How are you doing?
I don't know any of these words.
Just say Asamalikum.
Asamalikum.
Alawakbar.
Alawakbar, Brother John.
There's got to be some other groups.
It's funny, though, that the Islams would get...
Well, yeah, it's about insurance.
But let me ask you this.
So I'm always looking for ways around this bull crap.
And what we've discovered is that the real good health care...
That we want, which is definitely somewhat alternative, is not in our network.
Or the doctor you like, sorry, we don't take Blue Cross Blue Shield.
So here's an idea.
How can someone not take Blue Cross Blue Shield?
There's some other scam going on because they have the most money.
Yeah, well, I'm just saying.
Oh, no, because they're like real nice doctors who don't prescribe drugs immediately.
They've got other things for you.
And they send you to the compounding pharmacist who makes your hormones for your thyroid out of stuff that is natural and is not synthesizing this crap.
That's why.
That's why they're not in the network.
I mean, I don't think I can explain that to you, right?
They're not playing the game.
So wouldn't it be great if you could get...
Because you want health insurance if you have an accident, you get some horrible disease.
But for all the other stuff, I'm thinking, can't you just get an insurance with a $20,000 deductible?
Well, if you remember, originally health insurance was exactly for that.
It was for horrible situations where you had to be hospitalized.
There was none of this what we see today.
It was when the HMO guys started showing up with their grand scheme.
They go, you know, I have an idea.
We'll charge health insurance, but they get all these extra services and they get to see a doctor and all that.
Everything would be covered by this insurance now.
It's not really insurance.
It's kind of a scam.
And they're the guys who pushed through all these kinds of legislation which kind of promoted the idea.
And they also made the deal with the drug companies saying, look, once everything is covered by insurance, you can rack up, you can change the prices to anything you want them to be.
There's no regulation on pricing drugs.
And all the drug prices have gone up for no apparent reason.
In fact, even with generic drugs, you find a lot of generic drugs.
The regular drug bought the company that manufactures the generic drugs, and they kept the prices the same.
I mean, this is...
Here's a good example.
Provigil, which went generic, and they had...
So they bought...
And it's expensive.
It's like $10 or $20 a pill.
And most of it is sold to the military because all the Air Force pilots use it if they're going to be in the air a long time.
So they sell it to the military at $10 or $20 a pill, full ticket, maybe give them a discount, $15.
You say that like you're doing the deal yourself.
And then it goes generic.
They bought the generic company.
The price on the generic is actually more expensive.
Yay!
That's a gig right there.
It's this unbelievable scam.
There's no hearings on it.
Nobody gives a crap.
Don't worry about it.
Most of it's going to the government anyway.
It's government waste.
So hear me out now.
So, you know, so Mickey's doctor, the one she really likes, the one who was not covered by Blue Cross, charges $95 for a consult, which is actually, I think, a very reasonable price.
And, you know, that's an hour.
And, you know, and he's talking with her and, you know, an hour.
I mean, $100 an hour?
That should be $150.
And he's $95.
So I think that's a very, very, very good value for money.
And, of course, we pay for that.
Literally, we pay for that.
Now, if Mickey wants to get some party drugs, you know, like, you know, Vicodin and stuff like that, she goes to the doctor in the network and she says, oh, I can't sleep, you know, up to Mazepam.
Yeah, you know, my back hurts.
Oh, Vicodin.
And I'm not talking one or two.
I'm talking 50.
You know, so we get the party drugs from that doctor and it's all covered by insurance because she's our drug dealer.
But when you really are sick, she goes to the chiropractor, Dr.
Ryan, who literally, I told you about, she had the vertigo.
No, I never heard about the vertigo.
Oh, didn't I tell you this?
Was it an inner ear infection?
No, it's because of the cedar, because she has a cedar allergy.
Oh, and you're in a cedar area.
Yeah, and she's already doing quite well with the allergy with what the voodoo doctor is doing for her, but still she has a little inflammation inside her head.
But Dr.
Ryan, who was actually a friend of ours, so he didn't charge anything, he said, oh, I just need to do a quick adjustment on your atlas or whatever.
And so, because it's not draining out properly, and he, like, snapped her head, which was an awesome, awesome sight to see.
Knack!
And it was gone.
She's not walking around butt first now, is she?
In the morning.
And, you know, but so, and, you know, Ryan is our friend, so he does that for nothing, but normally, you know, he's like 80, 75 bucks, I think, an hour.
You know, these are very normal prices for, you know, for a good service, but you don't need to go, you know, 20, what was it, so 20, 200 times a year, you know, so...
I think, you know, also you would go less.
You're like, oh, you know, it's like, oh, I feel a pain in my pinky.
Let's go to the doctor.
No, you're like, let me see how I do.
You know, see if I'll be okay.
By the way, that's another thing that's been brought up is that some people have noticed.
One of the problems with the whole thing being insured, including doctor's visits with the co-pay, pay 10 bucks, is that it's usually, somebody just mentioned this, a lot of old ladies, We'll pay the 10 bucks and go in to moan and groan about their, you know, bursitis.
Whatever, yeah.
Because they have their sons and daughters, don't visit them anymore, they have no friends.
Yeah, exactly.
And they just as soon sit in the office or talk to the doctor for a couple hours.
It's like paying for a hooker.
It's the same thing.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I didn't mean that.
But, you know, some people might drink some tea made of, I don't know, the magical plant marijuana or maybe smoke some weed, whatever.
There's a million things you could do which would save you the money.
So I don't think we need to be spending $20,000, let's just say $10,000.
We may spend $10,000, but then I want to be able to spend it on who I want.
And now I'm spending it twice.
I'm spending it on the damn insurance, and I'm spending it on the doctors we actually want to go to.
So I want insurance that has a $20,000 deductible.
Whatever I'm going to have to pay in 2016, I'll pay for it, and I'll pay for it directly to the guys I want.
Because you're going to pay for it anyway.
And then if I'm in an accident and I have a real bill, you know, wow, that's when obviously I need the insurance.
Do you think I can get this, John?
Or is this maybe another opportunity for the Curry Dvorak Insurance Company?
I don't know.
I think you probably could get it.
I don't know where you'd get it.
You might have to, I don't know.
I don't know what's available in Texas.
Lloyds of London.
You should play the curry pet peeve jingle after you're done with this, whatever you're doing.
Well, no, that's kind of where I was at.
I mean, I was just looking at these numbers.
I'm like, oh my God, this is an outrage.
It's an outrage.
And you're right.
I remember the HMOs.
It was like the whole, it was like, yeah, this is cool.
You pay one amount and then you guys always there and you can go in for everything.
Which is nothing new.
I mean, this was actually invented by Kaiser.
Kaiser Permanente used to be pretty much the only HMO. And it was always a fair operation and pretty well managed.
It was done mostly for the employees, generally speaking, of Kaiser.
They figured they could do their own system.
Especially during World War II, they had all these shipbuilding places.
There were cement companies.
Kaiser was everywhere.
And I worked for Kaiser one summer, and I got...
We got free medical from them and got part of that system.
I always thought it was amenable.
The doctors were decent and everything was fine.
But then some bright guy came up with that, you know, we can use this to gouge the public.
If you really think about it, Warren Buffett, who of course is an incredible a-hole because he won't do this, and he's in the insurance business, it's really a guaranteed money maker.
If you have a $20,000 deductible, people are not going to be tapping into the insurance probably ever within that year, but they're still going to pay their relatively low premium.
So you can get a couple million people paying you $100 a month for something they really aren't going to use.
What percentage of that customer base is going to have an accident or wind up needing some type of services that go way beyond the deductible?
It's going to be pretty low.
You've got to make money on it.
You've just got to make money on it.
But not as much as this scam, obviously.
This is great.
So, just on the insurance thing...
And by the way, the leading money went to Obama from these operations.
Oh, yeah.
Hello.
So, we brought up the concept of gun and gun owners insurance on the previous episode.
And I went to looking...
And just several days after the Sandy Hooks horrific, unspeakable incident, Reuters Television, so on December 14th, this is maybe three days later, I think, Reuters Television has this conversation, and this is their newsbreakers or windbreakers, whatever these douchebags are, but it's Reuters sending out the message to all of the Reuters affiliates.
We've been discussing a few ideas for gun control in the wake of the massacre on Friday.
Some financial ideas, if we can see if we can come up with any.
And one that we were talking about earlier this morning was, Rob, an insurance scheme for guns.
How would this work?
Well, first off, it gets around some of the contentious ideas of how to actually limit guns.
Because what you're saying is, you're saying, okay, guns have effects.
You know, certain people get killed.
So you have, say, a mandatory million-dollar coverage, and that goes to compensating the victims.
Isn't that a great little me?
Mandatory million-dollar coverage.
And also what it does is it forces every gun owner to have to buy insurance for their weapons.
And that does two things.
Insurers will have to start to discriminate and they'll charge higher policies for various sorts of guns.
Like any insurance policy, say for cars, say, okay, well, here's someone who's young.
They've done kind of like a TMZ format.
We've got some a-hole standing up in like the editorial offices and all the other, you know, the little journalists are sitting down.
Standing in front of a green screen.
Yeah, exactly.
Who has never really shown they can handle a gun before.
We don't know what they're going to do.
Yeah, for instance, you know, a 21-year-old buying a semi-automatic is going to pay a really high price.
I love it.
Let's just take a random example.
A 21-year-old with a semi-automatic.
Just a random example, okay?
Versus a hunter who's been to safety classes, has used his gun, has had it for 40 years without a single problem.
Probably won't pay very much at all.
Not a single problem.
Forty years.
I've never killed anybody with my gun.
Ren, if we turn this to our legal expert here.
Now listen to this guy, the constitutional expert of the team.
Ren, you've been thinking about what this means from the constitutional point of view.
So if you put insurance on guns, does it somehow limit the ability to...
Well, that's right.
I mean, it makes a lot of sense.
I mean, you say cars, you know, people are required to have insurance because they need to be responsible for the damage.
Listen to how he makes this fit with the Second Amendment, which he clearly has never even read.
Why shouldn't the same thing be true of guns?
Well, of course there's the Second Amendment, the fundamental right to gun ownership.
Ah!
I'm sorry.
I have to stop.
The Second Amendment is not a fundamental right to gun ownership.
The Second Amendment ensures that Congress shall make no law against the fundamental right to gun ownership.
Let's make that very clear.
No law shall be made against that fundamental right, douchebag.
And although I think a certain amount of insurance would be fine, if you start making it too expensive, you start putting too great a burden on a fundamental right, then you raise a constitutional issue.
So, it's okay to do it a little bit, but if it costs too much, then it's a constitutional issue, apparently.
How does that work?
I know!
This is Reuters, John!
This is like the prostitute joke, you know?
I already established here when I'm just trying to get the price right.
I mean, this is Reuters, you know, this is not insignificant that it's these guys who are saying this stuff, because they do influence...
Very bad, very bad.
Now, I just have a couple of things on the war on ammo.
So, Erin Burnett, as we say here in Texas, because everything is Burnett Road, she...
She did the most horrible thing.
Now, we know that as a part of this whole gun conversation, which, by the way, I want to point out that we have military doing exercises over our cities.
We're going to have the Sandy Hook children will be singing at the Super Bowl.
Apparently, you know, like, oh...
It's like, oh, we can't have guns.
Guns are bad.
But of course the Super Bowl will start with jets flying overhead and military marching bands.
It's like, guns are great in America as long as you don't have them.
The insanity of this.
And, of course, we are looking at insanity literally from a perspective of are people drugged?
And now everyone's coming out and saying, well, you know, there's a high correlation between these mass shootings and these guys have been on drugs, except they never actually report that.
They only say it after the fact a little bit.
It's never like he was on drugs.
Never, ever is that in the report.
But the high correlation between video games, not the media.
It's not television and movies because, no, we give them a tax break.
We love them because they help get our politicians elected and stay in office.
So we will stay away from the media, but we will tackle video games.
So Erin Burnett has a constitutional law professor on from Harvard, and she is going to state the fact that That video games turn men into violent mass shooters.
Fact.
And he's going to debunk it, and she's going to just steamroll over him, particularly when he goes off script.
You'll like it.
...far he's declined.
There's the saying that guns don't kill people, video games do.
Do you know this saying, John?
I've never heard this saying, this old saying.
This old saying that comes from the Wild West.
Guns don't kill people.
Video games kill people.
Oh, but wait, there's more.
Senator Grassley implies he made kids more violent.
Does it add up?
William Pollack is a psychologist and author of Real Boys Rescuing Our Sons from the Myths of Boyhood.
Sir, I really appreciate your taking the time.
Let me just ask you the point-blank question.
It is a lot of people out there now.
This is accepted as a fact, that all these violent games, and by the way, they are horrifically violent...
It's accepted as a fact.
It's accepted as a fact.
Do you hear what she's saying?
Yeah, she says it's accepted as a fact when in fact it's not accepted as a fact, just the opposite.
Is why we are seeing this feeling, this seemingly explosion in mass shootings.
True?
No, not true.
I mean, I agree with the senator.
We should put some controls on those video games.
But they don't cause the shootings anything more than one item does.
So this is where already Aaron's like, who invited this guy?
It's a fact.
It's a fact.
And that man did say that he trained on a video game.
Oh, I have no doubt about it.
I agree with Senator Grassley.
We need controls over violence in our media and in our...
Oh, no!
Oh, no!
He didn't!
He didn't say violence in our media, did he?
Oh, Aaron!
Aaron, get to work, girl!
Video games, especially for younger children.
But that alone isn't the answer.
You need those controls?
Yeah.
But what about, let me just ask you another question about Grand Theft Auto.
So let's go right over the media thing.
Let's go right back to video games.
Grand Theft Auto.
There's probably some viewers out there playing this all the time.
Alright, this turns, when you kill people, you win points, right?
For example, you kill a prostitute, and that's a big thing.
You get to win points.
I mean, you know, I find that offensive and disgusting, but...
Hold on, Aaron.
As a prostitute, I find that offensive.
Exactly.
As a prostitute, I find that very offensive.
You don't kill hookers.
I find that offensive.
That would be like me.
Does that mean that those people who play that game are more likely to kill people?
No.
It's heinous.
So he's saying no.
Now she's going to have to discredit this guy.
Law professor.
It's heinous.
And it's possible that boys who watch that for a long period of time might stand back when fighting occurs and not protect someone or engage in domestic violence.
But there's no proof that they're going to go out, get a gun, and shoot someone.
Absolutely no proof at all.
All right.
Well, thank you very much.
We appreciate your taking the time and giving some provocative answers there.
Provocative answers. Provocative answers.
Telecom, new developments.
Fall out.
Provocative answers.
You know, yes, controversial and provocative answers.
So this is what it's going to be.
Fact.
Guns don't kill people.
Video games kill people.
Fact.
When you kill hookers in Grand Theft Auto, you want to kill people for points in real life.
Fact.
She's an idiot.
You're a douchebag.
Yeah, absolutely.
Douchebag!
She's a CFR member.
She's in that drinking club.
So while we're on this topic, I noticed that the right-wing show, Huckabee, was on this, and he was spending his time also talking about guns.
But he was ridiculing, apparently, a TSA or Homeland Security video that shows very carefully when it...
These scissors?
There's a video.
You know about this?
Yeah.
It's like, hide...
Hide under your desk and then if you have a pair of scissors.
Go stick them with the scissors.
Go stick them.
Stick them with the scissors.
Yeah.
Which is just ludicrous.
But unfortunately when he teased it.
When he teased it, see if you can catch his...
He kind of made a, I would say, a typo in his tease.
See if you can spot it.
Homeland Security wants you to fight off a crazed Guzman with what?
Oh, you'll find out when we come back.
A Guzman?
A Guzman.
A crazed Guzman, everybody.
I'm a crazed Guzman.
I mean, it's like he...
It says gub on the Woody Allen movie, but it's like a Guzman.
I know he caught it, but he couldn't figure a way to undo it.
So he just plowed through.
There was no way out.
Guzman.
Guzman.
I don't know what to do.
Yeah.
Speaking of TSA, I was meaning...
I have been holding on to this...
So TSA is all over.
Do you ever read...
I mean, I subscribe to the blogger Bob, TSA's blogger Bob.
Do you ever...
I look at it once in a while.
It's so lame, I gave up.
He's the apologist, that guy, right?
Yeah, there's another anti-TSA blogger out there that's pretty good.
Yeah, but this is the TSA.gov blog.
Yeah, I know, and this is horrible.
Travel tips for football fans going to Super Bowl XLV11. Let me see, what is that?
Super Bowl...
47.
47.
Why don't they just say 47?
Why does it have to be Greek?
Is that to make it like more...
That's Roman.
That's what I mean.
Why is it supposed to be Roman?
Like it's games?
Like we're throwing Christians to the lions?
Hello!
Okay, thanks.
Just wanted to check.
Okay, things you may want to bring on the plane, but can't.
This is uppercase.
Air horns are prohibited in both carry-on and checked baggage.
In checked baggage.
Why?
It's a compressed can of air which is prohibited.
Can you imagine the reaction from passengers if one of those things went off in the cabin?
Concealment flasks.
We've all seen them.
Binocular flasks, beer bellies, cell phone flasks, cane flask, pen flask, flip-flop flask, you name it.
You may be able to sneak these into concerts and sporting events, but we'll find them at the airport.
Please get your libations in New Orleans if you're not going to check them in your baggage.
So you can't, it can be empty, but you cannot have an empty flask.
You can, however, have a 3.4 ounce or less bottles of approved liquids in a baggie.
And why can't you say bag?
Why is it to be baggie?
Because that reminds me of a doggy baggie.
What am I, a dog?
Am I your bitch, TSA? Baltimore Ravens fans, if you're traveling with a live raven, please alert your airline and check out our page on traveling with pets.
Who the hell is going to be traveling with a live raven?
He's trying to be funny.
He's trying to be funny.
Blogger Bob is trying to be funny.
Oh, Blogger Bob's hilarious.
So anyway, Super Bowl fans may encounter TSA Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response, Viper, teams at local transportation venues, including commercial and general aviation facilities.
So when you're in your private plane, you're going to get on your own plane.
You're going to have to go through an x-ray scanner.
And mass transit.
Teams augment other federal, state, and local transportation and law enforcement to reduce potential terrorist risks to the traveling public.
TSA assets will also work with law enforcement at Mercedes-Benz Superdome during the high-profile game.
High-profile.
My terrorists like high-profile places.
Fans are encouraged to report potentially dangerous situations to law enforcement or someone in authority.
The Department of Homeland Security's If You See Something, Say Something campaign reminds the American public that security is a shared responsibility, just like your shared responsibility payment for health care.
If you see something, say something.
Use with permission of the New York Metropolitan Transportation Authority.
Ah!
If you see something, say something.
And here is what it sounds like when you're at the train station as recorded by a no-agenda producer.
Passengers are required to have valid identification at all times.
Have valid identification at all times in the train.
Why?
Because.
Shut up, slave.
You don't ask questions.
Listen to the whole thing.
Passengers are required to have valid identification at all times.
Randomly selected passengers get baggage, handbags, backpacks or other personal items may be inspected.
In addition, you may notice Amtrak police canine teams in the station.
The dogs are trained to protect specific materials on your person and around you.
Please do not approach or pet police dogs.
For your safety and security, remember to be aware of your surroundings and keep personal items in close proximity.
If you observe suspicious activity or unattended luggage, notify Amtrak police or station personnel or call 1-800-331-0008.
Remember, see something, say something.
Thank you and be safe.
Are they blowing up train stations?
When did that happen?
Was there some trains being derailed by terrorists?
When did that happen?
When were trains being attacked or even being targeted or even talked about?
In Madrid.
Two thousand...
Ten years ago.
Yeah.
But I love the whole Orwellian...
Be safe, citizen.
Do not approach the canine team.
Do not pet the dog.
Do not approach the dog.
You may be randomly selected.
Please travel safely.
If you see something, say something.
You must have identification on you at all times.
Shut the fuck up, slave!
All right, now I play it.
It disgusts me.
Is this America?
Is this America, people?
You need a Soviet Socialist States of America.
Heil, everybody!
Jeez.
Hey, John, doesn't this...
I guess at a certain point you don't give a crap anymore, do you?
Are you just done?
You just don't care anymore?
No, I'm of the opinion this is hilarious.
Because you don't need to take the train, maybe.
Well, I don't take the train, but if you do that, I mean, I'm out there recording these things, too.
And it's like, wow, people put up with this.
That's what gets me.
I mean, if I reek and bitch and moan all we want, it's like the public thinks it's great.
And the news media backs them up by only recording going out in the street with their microphone and sticking into somebody's face who will say, oh, it's better to be safe than sorry.
It's better to be safe than sorry.
I think if it makes us safer, it's better.
It's better to be safe than sorry.
I like it because it makes me feel safer.
Instead of putting the microphone in somebody's face who says, this sucks!
What are we, Nazi Germany?
No, don't use that.
Use the guy who says it'd be better to be safe than sorry.
Yeah, exactly.
So whose fault is this?
It's the media.
They're not helping the situation.
No, it's not the media's fault.
They're doing what they're told to do.
It's different.
I've had a little email exchange with a teacher in North Texas.
Because there was something that happened.
A teacher ran a red light and killed a six-year-old.
A horrible, horrible thing.
And the teacher was a hit and run.
But then she resigned and then she turned herself in a week later.
And It sucks.
Whenever this happens, you get a kid dying, someone runs a red light.
I don't even know if there was alcohol involved or not.
It's irrelevant.
Very, very, very, very sad.
The teacher was not like a douchebag.
This teacher emails me.
I don't want to give her name because it was so easy for me to find her that I don't want to put her career in jeopardy.
But so we're emailing back and forth.
She says, you know, I'm really worried about this.
And, you know, by the way, you know, I'm a teacher and, you know, and I've only just started listening to No Agenda.
But I'm very worried about what I'm seeing happening because of how the media is involved in this particular incident.
And I just want to read her most recent response to me because it really made me think about how crazy we are making or allowing ourselves to be made by media.
Unfortunately, the district has been in the news a few times this year with unfortunate events.
Prior to the hit and run, it was a sex scandal involving a high school band director and a student.
Come on, the band director.
I mean, please.
I've been trying to keep up with all the news stories and comments from the public.
Now, most rational people like you and I or people who know her personally, this is the teacher who killed the student, know it was a case of good person, horrible mistake.
But parents in the community aren't.
Aside from the fact that the parents are angry at all the media attention the school has been getting, they have to kick news crews off campus who camp outside on the sidewalk, plus a good portion of the school population are not here legally.
That's another interesting little point.
They are undocumented Americans.
That's the new meme.
Parents are now starting to question why the school would hire a killer because she's no longer a driver who hit a child and drove off.
No, she's a teacher who killed a six-year-old.
I was reading through people's comments on different news articles and social media sites and was appalled by the amount of people asking how a district could hire someone like this and commenting on the fact that these are the people teaching our children and how teachers are void of moral compass and we shouldn't put them on a pedestal.
Now, I agree with that, she says.
It implies we're some sort of superhuman child-rearing beings from God.
I think most forget that teachers are just regular human beings.
And of course, someone chimes in with, these are the people you want to arm with guns!
And it turns into a whole new argument completely.
Maybe it hits me a little bit harder because I'm in the teaching profession, but it's difficult to hear a child walk into class and say, my mom doesn't want me to go to school anymore because y'all murder people.
Wow.
Right?
Yeah, well, this is a sick country now.
This is beyond sick.
This is the media that does this to people.
Yes, well, it's people allowing the media to do it to them, which is why you are so...
Yeah, well, you can say it that way, but that's an enlightened point of view that nobody has.
We were raised to believe the media.
The media has essentially brainwashed us in a way that's kind of hard to figure out.
Because this is the free press country, and there's no free press here.
It's...
Thank you.
It's a marginal operation compared to the New York Times.
Well, yes.
Or any one of those TV stations locally.
Those things are very influential in their area.
Yes, but baby steps, John.
Baby steps.
We've got 10,000 people we're saving.
That's a start.
Well, we probably have listeners in the...
Our listenership is a lot higher, but you're probably right.
Only the 10,000 who actually donate on occasion.
If you don't donate, you're lost!
Yeah, I think so.
You will die!
And by the way, of course, we all know what teachers are really for.
They're there to have sex with the students if they're hot.
I mean, come on.
We all know what teachers are for.
Hello, everybody!
I'm going to show myself the world by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
Milfy teachers!
So before we begin, we did get a letter from a valued card holder.
Okay.
I want to read it.
This is our executive producer on episode 4 of the show.
Yes, Valued Card Holder.
And he says, Valued Card Holder here.
His name is, let's see what he said he wants his name to be.
If it's said in the little note, he did send some sort of James D., but he had, which is, I don't believe his name is James Driveshaft.
But anyway, maybe he's...
It's possible.
Anything's possible.
Anything's possible.
So he says he...
Apparently the email was bounced on him or something.
So here's his email for his executive producer of the last show.
In the morning, Robin Curry, Little John C., and Maid Mickey, who take from the corporate news and give to the poor.
I am an honored...
I'm honored to send you this donation.
Thanks for the best podcast in the universe and the anticipant of the revelations that will come from Deep Throat.
He's looking forward to that.
I think we're still coming?
Yeah, well, apparently, activity in Syria is...
I sent you a text about this.
Did you get my text?
Oh, yeah, you did.
Okay, let's continue.
CSS exposed what really isn't Deep Throat a bit passe these days.
I mean, my grandma probably knows about that.
Thanks.
She sent me some crap about your moniker.
Anyhow, for some reason, the telescreens on the gym I go to are always showing Dr.
Oz, the view, or some other equally inane bullshit.
The almost too delicious irony of no agenda in my ears while watching that garbage is all the motivation I need to keep running.
Well, that's the knowledge that eventually the drones will come for us all.
Ask not, as John Dunn certainly meant to say, for whom the drones fly, they fly for thee.
That's a good one.
I like it.
I like that a lot.
Anyway, he graduated with a major in robotics, and every time I see another story about the posthumous militants and their loved ones, I can't help but think that if I was raised differently, it could very well have been me working on software for the next batch of death from above.
And he plans on becoming a knight, and he wants to be Sir Valued Cardholder.
Sir Valued Cardholder.
And what he wanted was the no agenda.
He wanted the Dr.
Kiki, two to the head, back to you, Brolf Karma.
Hold on a second.
Dr.
Kiki, two to the head, back to you, Brolf.
Okay.
I had this.
I didn't know that it was the Valued Cardholder.
All right, here we go.
And a Karma, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Shut up already!
It's science!
Dr.
Fauci, thanks so much, as always, for joining us.
Good to be here, bro.
You've got karma.
I just...
I wanted to clip it.
Brolf Guzman.
I wanted to...
Brolf Guzman.
Hey, everybody.
Hi, everybody.
I'm Brolf Guzman.
I wanted to cut the Brolf thing and just have that...
But you need the kind of little...
You need the setup.
You need the setup, yeah.
That was cool.
Yeah, that's a problem.
It's not a good evergreen clip.
Thank you, valued cardholder.
I want to thank a few people out there for supporting the show.
Heather Aronson in San Francisco, California.
Hey guys, you're great.
She's sending us $100.
Keep Karma.
Please send Karma to help me pass my ham radio license on Sunday today.
Super Bowl Sunday, she's taking a ham license.
That is a real woman right there.
There, we're going to give you some Morse code.
You've got karma change.
We should have a page and put all our hams.
Everyone who's a ham.
Here's what we say.
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We got women.
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You were going to say pap smear, weren't you?
No.
I thought you said, I love the best pap smear in the universe.
I could swear you were going to say that.
No.
Oh.
No, it wasn't even in there, it wasn't even in the queue.
Oh, okay.
Well, it sounds good.
I am the best pap smear of the universe.
See, what it was is I hesitated because she used of the universe instead of in the universe.
I appreciate all the snippets from the brain mush of CNN, etc.
Happy birthday, Jim.
Can I get a Hillary?
It's delicious.
Don't eat me and baby yeah.
I think she means little girl yeah?
Baby yay, yeah.
It's almost too delicious to believe, my friend.
Don't eat me, Hillary Clinton!
Yay!
There you go.
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Campiador.
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A round of karma for all listeners, he says.
All right.
You've got karma.
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No comment.
I might be commenting in an email.
I'll maybe look later.
Simon.
Simon.
Marciniak, I think.
Marciniak?
Marciniak.
It's got to be Simon.
ITM Mofos is in somewhere.
This is my, these parts unknown.
ITM Mofos is my first donation story of my knighthood.
The pin is a great idea.
I request two to the head in LGY General Purpose Karma.
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Continue with Vasanth Darmaraj.
Damaraj.
Damaraj.
I would say Darmaraj.
Vasanth Darmaraj.
Yeah, probably it's Darmaraj.
Fremont.
99.99.
You're at...
Oh, hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Just gloss over that.
About what?
About what?
About the $99.99?
Oh, $99.99.
Hey.
Well, Simon had the $99.99, too.
I missed it.
I missed it.
I'm sorry.
It was my bad.
You should have said glossed over back of wind.
I suck.
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Aditya and Jagdish.
These are our Indian names.
The lazy, cheap Indians living in the Bay Area.
Again, that's me.
He's actually not a cheap Indian by any means.
The pressures of getting a witty comment and a super combo of jingles has made my douche grow back again.
Screw it.
Just give me plain karma for the second human resource we are expecting at the end of this month.
Absolutely.
Thank you for your support.
You've got karma.
You know, my complaining about cheap Indians only refers to Indians in India.
It's English-speaking country that listens to this show.
Yeah, and otherwise you're just an undocumented American.
Well, he's probably documented.
Travis Fricker, or he wouldn't be living in Fremont.
Travis Fricker, Newark, Delaware, $99.99.
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No, no, no.
No, he doesn't say honored.
I'm honored and humbled to be able to donate to be part of the best podcast in the universe.
Send Tristan some cash karma and some drone again for a de-douching for myself and a de-douching.
Please keep up with the good work and fuck the moon landing.
I'm sorry.
That was for me.
You've been de-douched.
A drone again, naturally.
You've got karma.
God.
*sigh* The drone again.
The drone again.
We haven't played that for a while.
No.
Okay, we got Peter McConnell.
I cannot find an email from him.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Peter.
Yeah, Peter McConnell.
I cannot find an email from him.
Let me back up.
94.94.
Stephen Schultz.
75 bucks.
I have no idea where this is.
Where do you think?
Suwansi.
Wow.
Gwegin.
Nah, this is...
We have to consult the Book of Knowledge on this.
I mean, look, the only thing you have to do production-wise is this.
Can't you just, like, do it?
Gwegin, yo.
Let me take a look.
These all come in...
This is all last...
I mean, this whole segment is last minute.
Check it out.
The Gwegin...
This is Korea?
Yeah, it's Korea.
Yeah.
The Gwangi-do province.
Gwangi-do province.
Gwangi-do?
Gwangi-do.
Gwangi-do, I think.
Well, South Korea, obviously.
But it's right up at the border of North Korea.
The Gwagandau province.
Well, he sent us a...
Nice.
But there's no email from him that I can find.
Well, no, it got censored.
I probably can't get it through.
It got censored, yeah.
Jesper Holmberg and Duval, we're banned a lot.
The Dvorak site has trouble.
Oh, even the Noagendanewsnetwork.com is being banned everywhere because it might contain viruses and terrorist activity.
Yeah.
It's an aggregator.
Jessica Holmberg in Duval, Washington.
Oh, here we go!
69!
Apatow.
Please sprinkle some Swazzle Nuff F F Karma over Barry and Hilly.
Just picture it Harry.
Yeah, I don't want to picture that.
That's not a good visual.
You've got karma.
But thank you.
And we got, let's see, this is Anthony Cabelli in Bismarck, North Dakota.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And...
6969, no comments.
James Ward, London, 6969.
I need some job karma.
Okay, hold on.
You've got karma.
Ken Burchill in Ottawa, 6969.
Hi, Bob and Doug.
Thanks for contributing to provide the best podcast in the universe.
Life is good, but you can never have too much karma, so please send me a little girl yay karma.
You've got karma.
Travis Lonergan in Glendale, Arizona, 6969.
ITM JNA. When I first heard the Giffords clip, I too was shouting, shill, keep up the great deconstructions and providing time and time again why...
Proving.
I'll get it eventually.
Keep up the great deconstructions and proving time and time again why No Agenda is the best podcast in the universe.
Like a no, don't eat me, Hillary.
Shut up.
It's science karma.
Merry Christmas, Adam.
What?
What was that?
Dame Lizzie just went off the rails for a second there.
Don't eat me.
For some reason...
Clinton!
Shut up already!
Science!
Sorry.
It's actually a funny combination.
Yeah.
Karma.
Yeah.
Oh, the karma?
Oh, jeez.
Karma.
You've got karma.
All I have to do is the jingles, and I can't even get that right.
Sir James Howard in Indianapolis says, Hey, Arthur and Julius, I'd like to give a big fuck you to all the Euros who are kibitzing to the USA about getting rid of guns.
They're even more brainwashed than our average dumb citizens.
Plus, they've been peasants serving the ruling elite for literally hundreds of years.
So what the hell do they know?
Shut up, you peasants!
I'm trying hard not to take it personally because I know most of them honestly don't understand.
But holding on to every single one of our rights is absolutely vital, even if some bad things happen along the way.
P.S. Kudos to Baron von Pelsmachers for making Lizzie a dame.
I always knew I liked that guy.
He says dude.
Why did you read it as guy instead of dude?
I didn't think it worked as well.
You editorialize when you're doing it.
You can't editorialize.
Please, you listen to me do the reads.
I'm leaving shit out all the time.
Yeah, only when it's like bashing Leo or if it's good for me.
I don't leave anything out that's good for you.
Oh, okay.
Or is this like...
Frederick Gagnon, you leave that out all the time.
Lies.
Lies.
Frederick Gagnon in Ontario, Canada.
Woo!
It's been a year since my last contribution.
I apologize, but I've been busy living the dream and getting by.
In lieu of jingles, I would just like to make a suggestion.
I thought it would be interesting to have an extra bonus show to do a recap of the Red Book.
Nothing too complicated.
Just going back to see what predictions came true and which ones didn't.
I think that might be interesting.
Keep up the fantastic work.
That is for one of our vacation shows.
It might be an idea to do that.
Do you think it's going to be interesting if we...
Well, he thinks it'll be interesting, but to be honest about it, I can't see it.
Because I'm just like, yeah, we nailed it, yep, got it.
Yeah, that's basically it.
You might as well play that we banned.
Yeah, that we banned, like we told you so, or whatever.
Yeah, we banned it, because it was getting ridiculous.
We'd be playing it all day.
Not that we're 100% right, but we're way over the mark compared to the mainstream media.
Yeah.
They're off.
Rusebeth Ebedadi in Toronto.
Ebedi.
Ebedi.
Yeah, Ebedi.
Ebedi.
Ebedi.
Rusebay.
Rusebay.
6969.
ITM Giovanni and Ebenzio.
I was called out as a D-bag by one Jacob Schiltes.
Can I please get a D-douching?
I'd also like to call out Menchie.
Go on.
Play up the douchebag in each one.
Oh, each one.
Menchie.
Douchebag.
Ash.
Douchebag.
Eddie Chan.
Douchebag.
Harveen.
Douchebag.
Can I please finish it off with a Hey Citizen bullshit karma?
Thank you for all you do.
Hey Citizen.
Bullshit.
You've got karma.
It's actually a nice combo.
Sweet.
Anonymous in Sydney, New South Wales.
Actually, we can use his first name, Cameron.
Here's my donation of 6969 from Gitmo Nation Down Under.
I started listening after the plugs on Leo shows, just after a shut up already at science and some karma.
Oh, well, see, I don't have this in a note.
No, it's because I pulled it off the email.
Right.
So that means that I have to then go find Dr.
Kiki.
And a karma?
Shut up already, science karma?
Shut up already!
Science!
You've got karma.
Shut up already!
James Cowan in South Jordan, Utah, 6969.
Thanks for the best podcast in the universe.
Can I get a karma shot with an LGY chaser?
You've got karma.
Yay!
Lauren De Bruyne in Munchen.
Lauren De Bruyne.
Lauren De Bruyne.
I get great value for value as JC repeats my name three times and has Adam correct it.
Once again.
I figure at least a donation from Munchnuts, pronounced Munchnuts Germany.
It's now forever Munchnuts.
Munchnuts.
What are you from, Munchnuts?
Hey, David Bowie was big in Munchnuts.
Also known as Munich to you Americans.
After the analysis of Euroland News in 42, it's clear you are the only news source worth listening to.
What did we do?
That's what I don't know, but everyone says this.
I'd like some all-purpose karma for me and those I've left behind, the KGB agent and Malworth 73s.
Hey now.
You've got karma.
Paola Valencia Juarez in Zurich, of all places.
I need some good karma quitting my job to stop commuting four hours a day.
That's from one end of Switzerland to the other.
Really?
You're in Italy, by the way.
Why don't you just move to the town?
I'm enjoying the first days of freedom and then a car ran over me.
In Switzerland, okay.
I was a driver from Iraq.
Iraq.
No, he says Iraq.
I, most, and more related bad stories anyway, but I need the karma to find a cool job and get a place in the mountains where you will be welcome if it works out.
Oh.
Well, we will be coming, Paolo from Zurich.
You've got karma.
It must suck if you're in Switzerland and you get run over by a dude from Iraq.
I mean, that's like, how bad can you have it?
That is bad.
And that wraps up...
69!
69, dude!
No, that should be it, I'd say.
Yeah, Livia Aguiar Cunha in the Amazon.
It's a town, Manao, somewhere in the middle of nowhere.
I know Livia.
I know who Livia is.
Oh, you do?
Well, Livia gave us a couple of Portuguese names that came out.
It's gibberish on here.
I think it's something like Adobe and Huawei.
Wow.
Like, wow Gilberto, I guess.
A couple months ago, Adam reminded me, as the Brazilian keeper won, and also said, I'm smoking hot.
What is this she's talking about?
Because I met her and her boyfriend, Yap, and I said, she's a keeper.
Oh, a keeper.
Because she's smoking hot.
The Brazilian keeper.
Thank you.
A news donation to request a douchebag to my boyfriend, Yap, who left me alone in his house in the Netherlands to go skiing with his Belgium friends for a week.
This is lame.
Now he keeps calling me with an idiot voice.
I miss you so much.
It's not so nice in here.
My roommate snores.
Whatever.
Actually, now all I can think is if there's any global warming out there, please melt all the alpine snow while he's there.
And I'm getting my Master's in Environmental Sciences.
So in order to forgive and de-douche him, he must make a new donation to the best podcast in the universe.
What about that?
Good deal.
Good deal, I say.
Please, Adam, remind him again I'm a smoking hot Brazilian keeper.
And also give us some karma, because I love that silly Dutch anyway.
Okay.
And then she wants you to pronounce her name.
What she's got?
It's Kua.
Kua.
Kua.
But I don't know, because this is not Kunhao.
She likes it when we're moody, she also says.
Oh, we're always moody.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, you are smoking hot in your keeper, and thank you very much for your support of the show.
You've got karma.
And Yop is a douchebag.
Why would he leave you?
Give him a douchebag.
Give him a douchebag.
I already did.
Douchebag.
Why would he do that?
You don't leave a smoking hot Brazilian keeper and go ski with your friends from Belgium.
I mean, sorry Baron, but you know.
The Baron knows.
He's sitting there going like, oh crap, I can't believe it.
He's like, send the Brazilian keeper to me.
Brad Twitty, yeah.
He can go for that.
She could be Baroness.
You come back from skiing with your snoring friends, your snoring Belgian friends, you come back and all of a sudden your smoking hot Brazilian keeper is the Baroness of Belgium and France.
That would show you.
Brad Twitty in Dallas, Texas.
Double nickels on the dime.
Can I get a karma shot for my dog, Juno?
She's in the semifinals for D Magazine, so that's Dallas' magazine.
Cutest pet in North Texas competition.
Ha ha ha.
Send a picture of this thing.
Send pictures.
Please help this canine producer win by going to votejuno.com and casting a vote daily starting Monday and ending Friday.
This makes you about 10 seconds to go to votejuno.com, cast a vote, and submit the ballot.
Help Juno punch your competition in the mouth.
I'm going right now.
Let's take a look at this dog.
Oh!
Oh!
Oh, my God.
Okay.
Oh, you got it.
Don't vote until Monday.
Okay.
You gotta see this.
Alright, vote.
This dog is amazing.
Can I vote now or am I not supposed to vote?
No, Monday.
Why not now?
It says vote.
Oh, Juno's cute.
Look at Nemo.
It's Juno versus Nemo.
Yeah, this is one of those deals where you have the showdowns and then a final.
I'm voting for Juno.
I'm voting for Juno right now.
Juno versus Nemo.
Submit your ballot.
Tom Bushy, Sir Tom, and St.
Paul, Minnesota nuts.
Wait, did he need karma?
Oh, yeah.
Karma for the dog.
Oh, sorry, Juno.
You've got karma.
Oh, cute.
Tom Bushy, Minnesota Nuts, 5510.
Just heard, Arnold and Julius, just heard in the Thursday episode that you are considering raising the minimum donation to be mentioned in the show to 6969.
This is a slap in the face of all the no-agenda minutemen who have been regularly donating double nickels on the dime for so many years longer than the swazzle and the fad.
Please consider this a front to what I believe is the oldest and still the best donation amount in the history of the No Agenda show, respectively Sir Tom of the Minute Minute.
Well, maybe we'll stop at 5510 and drop a little.
Meeting, meeting, meeting time.
We have to have a meeting.
What are we going to do?
Well, I mean, he has a point.
But it does drag on.
Someone told me that we should just consider this no agenda inflation.
And we should definitely up it to at least 55.10.
Well, maybe.
Robert Luca, Parra and Sandy, Utah, 55.10.
Nigel, you win Columbus, double nickels on the dime.
No jingles, just a request that you guys stop using the term civil war.
That name only makes sense if you buy into the statist lie that succession is unconstitutional.
It wasn't a civil war because it was fought between two distinct sovereign countries.
Call it the war between...
Actually, the Southerners are dropping, pretty much giving up on this idea.
Call it the war between the states, which I mentioned when you brought it up.
Yeah, no, you did.
Not that it hasn't been discussed.
Yeah.
So, I like Lincoln's War.
I think that's an alternative he'll accept, right?
Lincoln's War.
Yeah, I like that.
I like that.
Bruns Clothing in Watertown, South Dakota.
Hey!
Go to bruns.com, B-R-U-N-S, and buy one of those jackets.
Those things are amazing.
BrunsClothing.com.
Yeah, BrunsClothing.com.
Lee Bruns here, latest kickback from the BrunsClothing.com jacket sales.
It's our kickback.
It's our take.
It's our vig.
Your value for value model is catching on, and then he goes on about somebody else stealing our idea.
But, yeah, BrunsClothing.com.
I'll tell you, that jacket, if you're living in Minnesota, nuts, for example, you're crazy not to have one of these things.
Particularly if you can have a gun, because he'll make a little concealed carry pocket for you.
Yeah, I put a concealed carry inside.
Ryan Kiefer in Durham, North Carolina, 5150.
I don't think he sent us a note.
Let's take a look.
K-E-F-E-R. No, there it is.
It wasn't an option to ask, Bull.
Can I get a quick jingle combination?
Shut up at science, little girl, yay, karma.
Thanks for everything you do, Aiden and Jacob.
Shut up, what is it?
Shut up, science, little girl, yay?
Karma.
Karma?
Yeah, absolutely.
Shut up already!
Science!
Yay!
You've got karma.
And then we have a slew of $50 donations.
Jeremy Fant in Houston, Texas.
Long-time boner, first-time donor, he says.
Requests a good old-fashioned de-douching.
Ever since hitting my brother in the mounts about the show a month ago, I have become increasingly paranoid about him donating me for me and calling me out as a douchebag.
Hey, Mom!
Hey, Mom!
We just need cash.
I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
Just send your cash.
You will obey.
You've got karma.
I think we should just have that at train stations.
It's just you going, you will obey.
You will obey.
Hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
I think we can do this.
How does this sound?
Let me just try this.
Let me try this.
Let's see if this works.
Are you going to play that clip?
Good.
You will obey.
Say something.
Say something.
I was thinking you were going to play that train station clip and throw the you'll obey into it.
Oh, hold on a second.
That's a better idea.
Let me try that.
Hold on.
It was...
Here's the train station.
Okay, here we go.
Passengers are required to have valid identification at all times.
Randomly selected passengers, their baggage, handbags, backpacks, or other personal items may be inspected.
In addition, you may notice and track police canine teams in the station.
The dogs are trained to detect specific materials on your person and around you.
You will obey.
Please do not approach or pet police dogs.
For your safety and security, remember to be aware of your surroundings and keep personal items in close proximity.
You will obey.
This is the way they should be doing this.
This is so much better.
It is funny.
Okay, so we got some 50s.
Does he want a karma?
No, anything?
Yeah, he wanted a...
Oh, he did it.
We already did it.
Yeah, we did the karma.
Brett Farrell, Mason, Ohio, $50.
Alan Bean, our Sir Alan Bean over here in Oakland, who JC and I decided we're going to invite him to have a beer at a hipster club in Berkeley.
Oh, cool.
Sarah Kenny came in from Moncton, Maryland.
She did send a note on the email.
I'm donating from my boyfriend, Josh...
First she says, Dear Chuckleheads, who has listened to the Daily Source Code and no agenda since 2007, but hasn't donated once.
That's why I don't do the Daily Source Code anymore, because people are douchebags.
We both love the show and agree with mostly everything you say, even your eat right for your type idea, Adam.
In the morning!
That's right.
Should I get a de-douching for Josh and some karma for me, Sarah?
You betcha.
You've been de-douched.
You've got karma.
Sean Pyle in Streamwood, Illinois.
50.
I haven't donated in a couple of months, but I had to divert all my extra funds to endangered item acquirement, as well as donations to the NAGR, ISRA, and the NRA. I suspect this is the case with many listeners and the cause of low donations recently.
Here in the People's Republic of Illinois, we recently had to fight off a band that would have everything included, including handguns and detachable magazines, all of them.
Handguns with a detachable...
So that's basically all automatic weapons.
Yeah, it's all automatic.
You can have a single shot...
One shot Derringer.
Yeah, Darren.
Okay.
With a ramrod and a ball you put in there with powder.
They even wanted to have all existing magazines registered.
And when asked, how do you track something that has no serial number, the answer was a laughable, we'll figure that out after we pass this.
So please send all Americans some Second Amendment karma.
And how about a don't be a denier, Dr.
Kiki Double Tap.
Don't be a denier.
The science is in.
Shut up already!
Science!
You've got karma.
Jacqueline Wheatley, Lexington, Kentucky 50.
Donating today to promote the March Madness Marching Band in Lexington, Kentucky, where a renegade marching band that focuses on great entertainment, community involvement, and family fun.
We're traveling to Austin, March 22nd to the 21st, for the Honk Ticks Marching Band Festival being held downtown.
Oh, I love that!
I love that.
Band and cadences.
I'm not kidding.
I'm a real fan.
You're going to this, man.
I'm going.
This is March 22nd or 24th.
Three days of marching bands marching down the street.
I would like some travel performance karma along with a shout-out for our 2013 Kickstarter page just in case any of the listeners would like to help us out.
And this went on and on.
HonkTX2013.
HonkTX.org.
I'm loving this.
Oh, this is great.
She is at m-m-m-b.org.
Let me just check out this.
M-m-3 M's and a B. Did she need any special kind of karma?
Yeah, she wants to win.
Win karma.
Oh, hell yeah.
Here you go.
Winning karma.
You've got karma.
Greg Brunsel, Sir Craig Gregg in Kenosha, Wisconsin, $50.
Unknown person from McAllen, Texas, $50.
And finally, Gavin Baud in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.
What are you learning, gentlemen?
I have only been propagating the format for a week, but your show keeps me sane as I drive one of Sydney's finest trains, literally.
Oh, cool.
Oh, my God.
God, send pictures.
I had to donate it.
I donated a hundred moments ago, but I forgot to make a comment, so I donated again.
Just send an in the morning.
Feel free to dispense that whatever karma you see fit.
I love hearing about U.S. political problems, and our treacherous, lying prime minister doesn't seem so bad.
Keep up the good work, so he needs an in the morning karma.
And by the way, we like your douchebag prime minister, especially when she fell on her face.
That was my favorite move she ever did.
It was just like, pow!
Just face-planted right down.
Love that.
You've got karma.
I did that train ride, the Asia Pacific line.
You took the long train ride from across the country, didn't you?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maybe you can get me a ride in the cabin.
24 hours of horrible, that was bad.
You want to be in the cabin.
You want to be in the cabin.
Yeah, so he says, okay, okay, ready, ready, okay, pull it.
You know what you have to do when you're driving the train every 45 seconds?
You have to hit the dead man's button.
It's the most annoying job ever.
I thought you had a foot and you just kept your foot out of it.
No, no, no, no.
So there's three lights.
And I was doing the documentary in the India-Pacific.
That's what it is, the Indian-Pacific line.
And so the guy's sitting up there and he's talking to me.
He's like...
And he's talking about it.
And, you know, so...
For 24 hours.
That's all the guy's doing.
And the lights go...
Because if you don't hit the button, you know, then the train will stop.
And that's a real pain in the ass.
The whole time...
You're obviously dead.
And there must be a picture of...
Let me see.
Indian Pacific Line dead man...
Dead Man's Switch.
There's got to be a video of this.
It is the most annoying thing in the world.
And of course, you know, if you have that job, you know, it's like, pfft, you're not annoyed by it.
Well, he'll report back to us on whether they even, with a mechanism.
There's some smart way to jerry-rig the thing so you can sleep on the train.
Yeah, with an Arduino box.
You can have it, sleep.
I'm sure there's a way.
Get a monkey.
I can sleep.
Hey, everybody.
Holla, everybody.
Thank you so much for your support of the best podcast in the universe.
Your value for value is completely appreciated.
We're pretty sure that we're doing a good job for you.
So go to Dvorak.org slash NA and continue your support of this program.
It's your birthday, birthday!
Just get a monkey!
I'm so a champion!
Sir Jason says happy birthday to Sir Jimmy.
I think that's three hollow books, Sir Jimmy.
And Craig Weinberg says happy birthday to his wife, Sarah Weinberg.
She turns 33 on today, the third.
That is a whole bunch of magic numbers.
Happy birthday from your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe.
It's your birthday, yeah!
And we have...
Oh, Sir Hojo!
That's right, we have a ho tonight.
So, could you get out your...
Yeah, hold on.
You have it?
Hold on.
It's stuck.
Thank you.
Howard Johnson, step forward, my friend.
You have been supporting the best podcast in the universe, and the amount is up to $1,000.
That is true value for value.
We highly appreciate what you're doing for us, keeping us going, keeping our dead man's switch hit, as it were.
So I hereby proudly pronounce the Sir Hojo, knight of the Noah's in the round table.
Please, sir, come on over here for your hookers and blow, your red boys and chardonnay, hot pants and booze, wenches and beer, Ruben S, women and rosé, gushies and sake, vodka and vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, Cotton and Mead.
Ready for you.
So we do have one night that has an issue.
Uh-oh.
Well, he said, let me just read his note.
He says, I'm not sure if you saw the other email, but he's...
He has a company that's in competition, and he needs 1,000 votes by February 8th.
We seem to be pretty good at getting people things by voting.
Knight's working with a company, Altenera, A-L-T-E-N-E-R-A, on an innovative wind energy solution.
They are a U.S. clean energy competition.
They need votes.
Have a look.
If you like, vote for the project.
We'll put a link in the show notes.
Okay.
Well, hold on.
Give it to me now because I don't want to forget.
What's the link?
What's the URL? That's the long one.
It's futureenergy.ultralightstartups.com slash.
What?
Email that to me.
That's what I'm going to have to do.
That's what I said.
Yeah, but if you don't do it now, we'll forget.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Email it to me now.
I will forget because as soon as the show's over, I go into my zombie-like state.
I will withhold any further comment.
You don't even remember that we talked about Argo for a whole show.
I don't even know if you're the real John C. Dvorak.
Here we go.
It's over on your way.
It'll be on the show notes.
People can go and vote.
Give them a thousand votes.
Did you email it to me?
Oh, there it is.
Follow up from night.
Hold on.
Now, I've got to do it because I also go into my zombie-like state.
Aha!
Okay, so where should I put this?
Under what heading?
Contest.
I'll just put it right at the top.
Boom.
Future Energy Startup Investor Community voting.
There we go.
Do we support our knights?
Hell yeah!
Whatever you want.
We also vouch, you know.
We vouch.
We vouch for you.
We'll babysit.
I think we actually have a night babysitting service.
We'll gladly do.
Babysit.
So I love it when, well, of course, part of what we do is really help arm you against the weaponized mainstream media who are just trying to infiltrate you with bull crap in your head.
And we get you to work for less money.
Yeah, and then there's that.
Andrea Mitchell, who does she work for?
She's like a bigwig, isn't she?
She's the one who's married to that old...
That's the one, right?
Yeah, the one married to what's his name?
Greenspan.
Greenspan.
Right.
But she works for, must be ABC. One of the three networks.
Whatever.
She's the old hack.
She's been around forever.
So she's interviewing Al Gore.
Now, of course, Al Gore is...
I'm not quite sure why...
I'm not quite sure why he gets this free pass.
I mean, let's not for, or let's remember that, you know, he attacked a masseuse.
Yeah, he's a douchebag.
He, by the way, he's got a new book, so they put him on the book tour and he gets top billing.
He was also on PBS NewsHour, and they also have a clip where he's being interviewed by Charlie Rose, all part of this scheme.
And everybody seems to, I don't know if Andrea does, because I didn't hear this clip, but they all grill him about why he sold to Al Jazeera.
Well, this was not about Al Jazeera, but this was more about the questioning regarding the Total Agenda 21 of global warming climate change, which, of course, Al Gore started by stealing movie footage and manipulating the inconvenient truth into starting this entire...
While he fully was aware of starting...
And when you play my clip...
He credits Al Jazeera with being one of the reasons he sold to them because they do the best job of discussing climate change as opposed to our media with sucks, which he says.
Let's play your clip then.
Which one is it?
It's down at the bottom.
It's, uh...
Gore on sale to...
Gore on sale to Al Jazeera.
If you watch television five hours a day, what muscles are you building up?
Not the democracy muscle.
Oh, by the way, stop, stop.
Let me set this up.
By the way, Charlie Rose will have none of it, and he just grunts most of the time.
And then he's paying zero attention to this guy.
And then when he's talking, Gore's doing the same thing to him.
They're grunting a lot.
Is this the Charlie Rose show, or is it CBS This Morning show?
No, it is Charlie Rose.
It's deadened by it.
But the internet gives us real hope.
Is this in an auditorium?
Yeah.
Gore insisted, I guess, having a big audience.
Oh, what an a-hole.
Because he had to pack it with his shills.
Is that what he had to do?
No, it's hard to say.
No wonder Rose is grunting.
Of reinvigorating democracy and capitalism.
You've been very successful in business.
I was just announcing publicly the other day, you had a wonderful stock option from Steve Jobs, who was your friend, and you were on his board.
You bought a television channel and rechristened it as...
As the current TV, and you just sold that and made a handsome profit.
You sold to Al Jazeera, and people take note of the fact that Al Jazeera is in part subsidized or sponsored by the Qatar government.
Did that cause you a moment of saying, look, if I do this, if I sell to them, even though I'll make a handsome profit, people are going to say, oh, I wish you'd found a better...
Well, I did extensive diligence on that whole question.
Of course I understand that critique, which was then a potential critique.
Absolutely.
But what the diligence showed very clearly is that Al Jazeera has long since...
established itself as an immensely respected news gathering network around the world.
It's won the major journalism awards in country after country.
It is respected as having integrity.
On its climate reporting, for example, it's higher quality and far more extensive than any of the U.S. networks.
They do 24-7 Without any commercials, they hire the best journalists they can hire, and they tell it like it is.
And they have that reputation.
So I think they've earned the right to be seen that way.
But they've also given access on the air to all kinds of things in terms of people who have a very bad reputation.
Well, not on Al Jazeera English.
No, no, that's true.
Al Jazeera is carried on the Israeli national system.
It is praised by the State Department in its home area.
That's where our fleet is located.
It's our closest ally in the Arab world.
Secretary Clinton said it's part of the solution, not part of the problem.
It has really acquired a tremendous amount of respect.
But people will be able to judge for themselves.
Wouldn't it be cool if Charlie Jarosz just went, Al, when did you become such an incredible asshole?
Could you just tell me, at what point did you decide that being an actual sphincter hole would be great?
Because, you know, we're just not buying this bullshit from you, Al.
The clincher, though, to me, which I think you'd like this clip, which is...
At first, you might as well...
Gore is asked about nuclear power.
Which, of course, is the true renewable solution to all of these fossil-based fuels.
And it's zero...
Zero emissions.
Zero emissions.
CO2, it's a whole thing.
Everything is good.
But it would...
If everything went nuke...
That would be the end of the cap-and-trade scam and all the rest of it, right?
Which, I just want to remind you, he set up the cap-and-trade trading system before Inconvenient Truth came out, because that was the whole idea, was to enrich himself with a carbon-based trading exchange, just like the Commides Exchange, the New York Stock Exchange, a computer-based system, which he set up with his buddies over there, Clint Perkins, and all the VCs are involved.
So, what would you expect him to do on...
What would he say about nukes, which is still probably the best solution to all, especially some of the newer technologies?
We don't want a nukes.
So, let's listen to what he thinks.
Can I guess?
Can I guess?
This can't be good.
Take a long shot guess.
We don't want Fukushima.
We don't want fish.
We don't want to be eating sushi that has radiation in it.
No.
I expected that, too, but at least he backed off on that bullcrap.
All right, I'm going to ask some of these questions only because I want to get some of them in.
And here's an obvious question, and that we should ask.
Is nuclear energy such as coal fusion a true solution to end our dependence on fossil fuel and help?
Well, first of all, Charlie screws it up.
Cold fusion.
What the hell is that?
You want to say thorium, maybe?
That's a new development.
Cold fusion.
But Gore didn't hear that anyway.
He went on to his anti-nuke.
But Charlie Rose is also a sphincter hole for saying that.
That's lame.
Curb.
Global warming.
Well, it's certainly not a silver bullet.
It may play a limited role in the future.
The present generation of nuclear technology is way too expensive.
If you run a utility and you decide to build a new nuclear power plant, you go to your engineers or you go to any engineering consulting firm in the world and ask, okay, how much will this cost?
They will say to you, we really have no idea.
Then you ask them, how long will it take to build it?
And they'll say, we don't know.
Yeah.
And those are serious problems if you're trying to build a power plant.
Wow.
I can hear Sir Atomic Rod is shitting himself right now.
Freaking out over this.
And that's really why the industry has declined.
It's literally because of the regulations and the amount of time it takes for the nuclear...
Energy Regulatory Committee for them to hand off the licenses.
That's what takes so much time, is the paid shills and government working against it, who are actually on board with all the fossil fuel companies.
That's why you can't say how long it will take, Al Hor.
Safety issues even after Fukushima.
It can, in my opinion, probably be managed.
So it's the cost, not the safety?
It's the cost, and it's the nature of the cost accounting.
They're only in 1,000 to 1,200 megawatts.
That means they used to cost $400 or $500 million.
Now it's $5, $6, $8 billion.
It takes a long time.
Bullshit!
What a douche.
Hold on, hold on.
I know you like that one.
Yeah, I like it.
Well, let me play the Andrea Mitchell clip.
Because, you know, we've got to propagate this whole, you know, fear of global warming.
We're all going to die.
Hey, by the way, do you know what, John?
Did you hear about this?
We're all going to die.
It's heating up.
I heard that, Guzman.
Floods, fires, historic drought, some of the dire consequences Al Gore warns about if we don't act on climate change.
Do we still have time?
Boo!
Do we have time?
Do we have time?
I have to get a cappuccino.
Do I have time?
Do we have time before we're all going to die from the flood and the super storm?
People, this is your fearless leader speaking.
Do not be alarmed by these douchebags.
And once again, this is Red Book, Red Book, Red Book, Red Book, Red Book, Red Book!
It's in my hands as we speak.
What do I always say about the Dreamliner?
What do I always say about the 787?
It's plastic and you won't fly in one.
Thank you, John.
Tonight, Boeing engineers are blaming outsourcing for the problems the company is having with the Dreamliner.
The Seattle Times talked to engineers who say Boeing is getting poor quality components from subcontractors.
One 787 electrical engineer says the plane's problem goes beyond the So it's both of our theories.
Yeah, you got the plastic in there.
No, no, it's not just plastic.
Cheap plastic and prone to failure.
I keep telling you that these are plastic planes, people.
No, I will not fly it.
I saw this coming down Broadway when they started this stupid idea, and I think that clip I had about the train company from the 1930s really said it all.
They said they had to bring it all in-house because they can't trust the quality of outsourcing.
Exactly.
And you can't.
We have to wrap this up, but I have two things.
Do you want to do any of your clips before we wrap up?
These clips are pretty evergreen.
Let me see if there's one thing here.
Play the great lead-in for anything.
We can use this as a lead-in for anything.
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Okay.
Thank you.
That was well worth it.
Okay.
And she's very pretty, this girl.
Of course she is.
Something that came up on the news that I just needed to go back to our show on Thursday.
It only took him a couple days to come up with the big lie.
So the new president of France...
By the way, when it comes to the best podcast in the universe, the French are incredibly cheap bastards.
They don't even listen.
No, they don't even listen.
So the president of France went to Mali, went to Timbuktu for a victory lap.
Did you see this?
No.
Oh, yeah.
Three weeks after launching an assault against al-Qaeda-aligned militants in the north of Mali, the president of France was here on what amounted to a victory tour.
He never declared mission accomplished, but he was certainly cheered and even hugged as he walked through the streets of the ancient city of Timbertoon.
Until a few days ago, he wouldn't have been able to.
It was controlled by militant jihadists who have now fled after French paratroopers landed on the edges of this iconic community.
But President Hollande thanked his troops, the French and the Malians as well, as well as ordinary people.
But he added that in the future, the job of protecting iconic communities like this one won't be that of France, but of Malian and West African troops.
They are now moving into the city In order to secure this ancient community.
Okay, so a couple of things with this report.
First of all, so this white dude comes down from the heavens, and I don't know, you know, if you see the video, there's just like a whole bunch of Malians jumping up and down, and they're jumping on his neck, and like, oh, I mean, I don't know what they told them, who this guy was.
They probably said, yeah, this is Brad Pitt's brother or something.
They have no idea.
Now, this sounds like it was a victory lap.
He went in.
He saved the Malians.
They're so happy.
Oh, President Hollande, Hollande, we love you so much.
Please listen to the report of what went down when they took Timbuktu back from the militants.
This is only from Thursday.
The airport was quickly secured.
French soldiers and a few Malian units moved into town without firing a single shot.
Not a single shot was fired!
There were no militants, there was no Al-Qaeda, there was nothing there.
They just walked right, they dropped out of the sky, and there was no...
Remember when we landed in Mogadishu?
Yeah.
And CNN was on the shore filming him, and the Marines were like, oh, what?
It's the same thing.
There was no al-Qaeda.
There were no terrorists.
So what are these people so happy for?
This is all staged, obviously.
Totally bullcrap.
I know what they were jumping up and down for.
They gave each one of them two francs.
Here's some mush.
Yeah, exactly.
Are you hungry?
You want a burger?
He's going to be giving everyone money.
The more you jump, the more money you'll make.
Jump!
Jump!
One of those guys, one of those set-up guys on those shows they have on television with an audience.
With his script, and he's clapping his script in his hands.
Yeah, set-up guy.
Come on, give him a round of applause.
When the sign goes on, applause like crazy.
We'll give you a dollar if you do that.
Exactly.
And I was just like, and what is this iconic community?
What is all this bull crap?
What is that supposed to be?
They're trying to turn into a tourist trap.
You're right.
You're so right.
Come visit the iconic community of Timbuktu.
You've heard about the song.
You've heard the band.
Now come to see the iconic, legendary, historic community of Timbuktu.
Yeah, they'll put a nice airport runway in there and people will go to Timbuktu and stay at the Four Seasons.
Maybe they can stay in a teepee.
Well, maybe.
One of the two.
Yeah, which, by the way...
All right, before we finish the show, though, we do have to mention that we do note that they built a second Oval Office.
Well, there were two things I was going to say, and one is that.
So go ahead, explain, and then I'll get to the last one.
They built a second Oval Office because they're going to recondition, refurnish.
They're going to redo something.
Maybe the White House has fallen apart.
We have no idea.
No.
But they built an exact copy of the first Oval Office, and it's obviously for the backup Obama's.
He'll have his own office because he's bitching and moaning apparently about the fact that he has to stay in the closet while the other Obama gets to swap.
Swapping the one office is not working out.
It's annoying.
It is not working out.
The shared office thing.
It's like he's hiding under the desk because they both showed up on the same day.
That's no good.
So yeah, people, read your documentation.
This is actually happening.
And it's going to be identical, John.
Yes, no, same, everything.
Identical.
The counterfeit paintings, everything's going to be the same.
The counterfeit paintings.
Okay.
All right, then finally, I'd like, now, I'd ask you a question.
Go to, are you ready to go to the browser?
I'm on the browser now.
For some reason, you're cracking me up.
Are you on the browser?
On the browser.
Check.
Tell me where to go to.
I'm sorry.
You make me cry.
I have PBA. Obamagun.curry.com.
Obamagun.curry.com.
I have a couple things to say about this.
Are you there?
I'm getting there.
Oh.
Well, there's Obama shooting a really nice shotgun, it looks like.
Now, there's a couple things I want to say.
Which Obama is this?
This is the skinnier one.
So, there's a couple things we have to...
Where is Ted Nugent at this moment?
So, let me tell you...
Look at this picture, and I'm going to tell you all the things wrong.
First of all, if he's skeet shooting...
What skeet is he shooting?
He's shooting the guy that apparently Cheney shot in the head.
He's shooting the guy.
Straight out.
Yeah, he's like, pull!
And he's shooting the guy who's pulling.
He's not shooting a skeet.
Second.
No.
Look at where the butt of the shotgun is.
To be honest about it, with that shot, he could be shooting traps.
No, they say skeet shooting.
Clay targets.
Now, clay targets are dark.
They're black.
You do not wear dark safety glasses when you're shooting clay targets because you can't see the frickin' target.
Okay?
This is a lie.
Three, look at how the butt of his gun is.
He's going to break his shoulder.
It's up too high.
Yeah, it should be tucked in lower.
Three, get your oily fingers off the gun.
Do you see where his index finger is of his right hand?
Oh yeah, it's on the barrel.
You don't hold it like that.
Four, this of course was done with high speed film.
Do you see this little poop of smoke coming out the right hand side?
You know why this is?
Because there's no wad used in this ammo.
He's using pussy ass ammo.
Which does not include a wad, and it's all choked up.
And this is why you have the blast coming out the side of the gun.
This is total fake.
He couldn't handle the recoil.
That's why they had to put pussy ammo in.
And he's holding it.
He's not doing it right.
He's holding it wrong.
And he's pointing at the guy who he's pointing at.
This is not...
I'm ashamed that my president...
It's actually saying, oh, I shoot guns all the time!
Well, no, you don't.
And I can't believe that no one is just yelling about this.
This is crazy.
There's so much wrong with this picture.
Well, I'm glad you got that off your chest.
Don't you think?
Good catch.
No, I think you're right.
And by the way, the official White House photograph is being made available only for publication by news organizations and or for personal use printing.
So you can print it and hang it on your wall.
No, no.
And for personal use printing by the subjects of the photograph.
So the president can print it and hang it on his wall.
Look how cool I am.
The photograph may not be manipulated in any way.
Oh, that's going to work.
Hey, everybody, grab this photo and let's go to town.
Have you seen the No Agenda community on Google Plus?
No.
Oh, my God, John.
Someone's photoshopped.
The gun is reverse.
Oh, they've already photoshopped it.
Oh, yeah.
He's shooting a drone.
Like, the gun is a drone.
He's shooting the drone.
Oh, I saw that one.
I did see that one.
It's hilarious.
No, no.
Oh!
We're going to arrest you if you photoshop this clearly bogative picture of the president not being able to shoot.
This is...
I mean...
But the smoke is...
The gun doesn't smoke.
Unless, you know, you're burning powder at the end there, then you're shooting pussy ammo.
There's no smoke coming out.
It's ridiculous.
To anyone who knows one, and I don't know much about firearms at all.
I'm not even using the right terminology, but I know that this is all wrong.
He's got his finger on the bluing of the gun.
He's got the butt up on his shoulder.
He's shooting black clay pigeons with black glasses on.
He's shooting straight ahead.
If you're going to wear goggles, you wear clearer ones.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, okay.
Well, that's it.
We're done.
The shows are running too long.
Well, it's because of you.
Are you on that Twits?
No, Super Bowl Sunday.
Oh, that's right.
Go gay team.
And Leo.
Leo.
Yeah, it's his real name, you know.
Really?
His real name is Leo.
Yeah.
That's hilarious.
Leo.
And he is in New Orleans with...
With his Leo.
With his Leo.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's in there living it up.
Hey, how does he get tickets for the Super Bowl?
Apparently a lot of people are going to New Orleans to do it.
This is an expensive trip.
How does he get tickets for the Super Bowl?
That's like thousands of dollars.
You buy them out from these brokers who put packages together so he gets two seats, good seats, reasonable seats on the 25-yard line.
I asked him about that.
I grilled him.
And you get a hotel room, which apparently is the real scam.
Yeah.
The hotel rooms are...
I mean, you can get a Super Bowl seat for about $1,000, $1,500 maybe.
But the hotel rooms are like $4,000 a night for the best Western kind of thing.
It's unbelievable.
Well, then he's good he brought her with him.
He can get laid at least.
So anyway, so he's on, he's in there, so he's going to do a, I don't know who they got doing the show, but not me.
Who cares?
Not me either.
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I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
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