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	It's not enough and it will do nothing.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Thursday, September 13, 2012.
	Time for Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 443.
	This is no agenda.
	Acting revolution here in the capital of the Drone Star State.
	It's Austin Tejas in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm contemplating baking a cake with a fish in it, I'm John C. DeVore.
	You know, that's just like David Letterman, where he'll start the show off with something, and you have no idea what he's talking about, and you'll never know because you weren't in the audience at warm-up.
	Yeah, I know he does it almost every show.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He makes some reference to Iowa.
	There's somebody in the audience cracking up.
	Yeah, it was so funny.
	So funny.
	Hey, boy, I'm very worried.
	Now we've gone and done it, John.
	It's finally happened.
	We have finally shown the rest of the world that we do have really, really shitty movie production.
	And boy, are they pissed.
	Hey, wait a minute.
	Have you seen that thing?
	Yes, of course.
	Where's Angelina Jolie?
	Wait a minute.
	Hold on a second.
	The most important thing.
	You've got something going on and you need a distraction.
	Call Clooney.
	Call Clooney.
	Where's Clooney when we really need him?
	I mean, this is why everyone's angry.
	They're like, what the hell are you guys doing?
	This is not your normal movie propaganda.
	This sucks.
	Yes, I have seen.
	In case you're listening to this sometime in the future.
	Which is more likely than not nowadays.
	Yeah, we are referring to the uprising of anger against the United States of Gitmo Nation for a really, really bad movie.
	And I think it's just a trailer.
	Did you see the trailer?
	No.
	No, I couldn't find it.
	Oh, really?
	No, you're kidding me.
	No, I saw it.
	I actually pulled some quotes from it.
	I'm like, we've got to play some of this.
	I think we need to, right off the bat, just look at the evidence that we have and look at where this is coming from.
	Because one thing we know, it's not.
	No, we'll actually explain what you're talking about to begin with, which is the assassination of an ambassador.
	Yeah.
	Well, see, it's interesting that you already put it that way.
	You say it's an assassination of an ambassador as if this was a predetermined setup to kill the ambassador in Libya.
	Oh, did I say it that way?
	That's exactly how you said it.
	You said it that way.
	Well, let's, before we go, well, going with your analysis, but a couple of things I want to make clear, at least from my perspective.
	I think we have evidence, and then we have analysis.
	I think there's a lot of things going on here, and if anything, October came early this year, that's for sure.
	Well, uh...
	You know, I have a couple of...
	Well, go ahead.
	Go ahead with your singing.
	I have to download my clips into my...
	Just talk.
	Sorry.
	Okay.
	Talk, sorry.
	Talk, talk, talk.
	This monkey boy will jump and dance for you now.
	Talk, monkey boy.
	I'm dancing.
	I'm dancing.
	Okay, so here's what happened.
	On September 11th, for those of you who don't know, all of a sudden we had all kinds of things taking place, primarily two embassies, one in Cairo and one in Libya.
	Embassy, by the way, is kind of a big word for the building that is...
	Compounds, yeah.
	And I think ambassador may also be a really big word.
	And what winds up happening is that we have all kinds of people angry in Cairo and yelling and shouting in front of the embassy.
	Not anything new.
	But then the quote-unquote embassy in the unprotected embassy, I might add, in Libya is burned and the ambassador dies.
	Still very unclear exactly what happened.
	Along with a, I love this, Senior Chief Intelligence Professional, or whatever his title is, i.e.
	spy.
	When you're an information, you're a spy.
	And then two other undefined people.
	So all very, very...
	Unclear what exactly happened there was not a lot of real response then all of a sudden everyone starts talking about this and I guess what really got everyone's attention is when President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton came out and started talking about it and they immediately I attributed this to a movie trailer on
	the interwebs called Innocence of Muslims.
	And I think what I should do, because we have to look at evidence first of the empirical facts that we have in the way of sound clips, and then I think we can start to analyze it.
	Here's Lucifer.
	I'm sorry, Hillary Clinton.
	And in her statement yesterday where she is eulogizing the ambassador to Libya, she references this movie.
	We are working to determine the precise motivations and methods of those who carried out this assault.
	Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior along with the protest that took place at our embassy in Cairo yesterday as a response to inflammatory material posted on the internet.
	Now, the way she said this, John, leads me to believe that she was not involved in it.
	Because she's saying some will believe.
	I'm pretty sure that this cover story of the movie posted on the internet, the trailer, did not come from the State Department.
	Just listening to what she's saying there, what do you think?
	I... Well, actually, I've noticed this about her.
	This whole episode, she is extremely annoyed.
	Yes.
	As if whatever...
	In fact, I have a clip where she's annoyed and then the BBC is...
	I don't know what their involvement is, but...
	Well, their partner is ABC. That's what they keep saying.
	Our partner in America, ABC. That's like, oh, okay, I got some bells ringing there.
	But Clinton seemed as if she was really mad about this.
	So whatever scheme she had afoot, if there was any, this wasn't it.
	Correct.
	And so she was angry.
	So I would assume, and she was, I mean, steaming angry.
	What's your BBC thing?
	I want to hear it.
	I got a couple of funny BBC things.
	One of them is...
	Since we're on the topic, the tidbit.
	Because apparently people aren't getting the big picture here.
	So let's drop in a tidbit when we do our tease for the story, which is the BBC report on Ambassador has tidbit.
	For you idiots.
	A tidbit.
	By the way, what is the etymology of tidbit?
	A small bit of a tid.
	An American would also round the globe.
	No American ambassador has been killed in the line of duty since 1979.
	But today, the flags have been put at half-mast here in honor of Chris Stevens.
	The U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other diplomats were killed in a raid on the American consulate in Benghazi.
	The White House is investigating whether the attack was planned, and President Obama has promised to bring the killers to justice.
	Our Middle East editor, Jeremy Bowers.
	Yeah, so the tidbit, of course, is a throwback to 1979, and this, of course, was the Reagan hostage situation.
	Am I correct?
	Carter.
	Right, but then Reagan came in and saved the day.
	Yeah, in 81.
	Right, but the hostage...
	The guy was killed in 79, and then they had...
	If you remember...
	Here's a few people who don't know.
	Nobody remembers what I said.
	This is the October surprise.
	This is why.
	The October surprise took place.
	Well, actually, it was longer than an October surprise.
	It took place a year earlier.
	And they grabbed American hostages and they kept them for damn near, maybe over a year.
	And ABC Nightline with Frank Reynolds had decided to make this stupid blunder of, we are going to cover this every day until it's resolved.
	Yeah.
	Day 306.
	And so this show was ruined.
	Nightline was ruined and they had to bring in Ted Koppel and get rid of Reynolds because of this stupid idea of doing this.
	So it went on forever and then they finally got the hostages out and then the October surprise was actually us getting them out.
	Well, let this be a lesson.
	I think Carter tried to get him out.
	No, no, no.
	The whole thing is that Reagan and people that I'm familiar with held back on the rescue.
	They said, hey, guys, hold on to them a little bit.
	We're going to get Reagan in.
	Boom.
	Yes, that's the believed scenario.
	That's the October surprise theory.
	By the way, the other one, which is Hillary moaning about this situation, I thought the BBC was a little...
	I have just another little small clip.
	It's a little bit of a side note, but it's Hillary is being teased.
	This is another teaser.
	And then they jump to a tease of some other topic that I thought the juxtaposition of these two stories was a bit, lacked taste.
	How could this happen in a country we helped liberate, in a city we helped save from destruction?
	Killed for being gay.
	A BBC investigation.
	Well, it's so funny, because that was actually my next clip, is exactly this.
	Today, many Americans are asking.
	Indeed, I asked myself.
	How could this happen?
	How could this happen in a country we helped liberate, in a city we helped save from destruction?
	Well, it's not because you're gay, although I think the juxtaposition, as you said, is very funny.
	Maybe this will ring a bell.
	Unconfirmed.
	Yes, we came, we saw, we died.
	Maybe that would be, maybe, I don't know.
	I mean, that could have something to do with it.
	It's just a thought there.
	Just a thought.
	Although, I don't think so.
	Good dig.
	Not bad, huh?
	Get that one out of the archives.
	Had to get it out pretty quickly.
	So, very, very, very interesting.
	There's all these really weird facts surrounding this.
	So, I think we both agree that Hillary had nothing to do with this.
	This is a real amateur, real, real amateur job, whoever decided to make this attack about this movie.
	Because the thing's been out there since July.
	There's no guy who even...
	It's just a really, really, really bad movie, I think, called...
	What was it?
	Desert something or other?
	Hold on.
	It's very specious.
	It's very sketchy that this movie would have anything to do with this assassination.
	I think it may be an intelligence war going on between the intelligence agencies.
	Many people in the diplomatic corps had an intelligence guy killed in this attack.
	And the ambassador himself, I would suspect, is probably CIA. Yeah.
	Hello?
	I mean, if you listen to it, I actually have a clip that gets his background, and you can really tell that he...
	Oh, yeah.
	I think he was even at Berkeley.
	Yeah, he went to Cal Berkeley, if you remember.
	That is our go-to spy school.
	Well, here's the other guy, the intelligence official.
	Sean Smith, he...
	This is a great...
	I think this is also from the BBC. Sean Smith was a husband and father of two.
	No, he's not BBC. MSNBC....served with the State Department for a decade, have been stationed all over the world.
	This is how he looked in real life.
	But this is how he looked in his other life.
	See, Sean Smith was known as Vile Rat, an influential online gamer.
	Even the guy's laughing at you.
	He's dead and you're laughing on the news.
	Laughing at a dead guy?
	Jeez.
	In a cyber community with almost half a million members.
	This is how Smith kicked back.
	It's how he relaxed in the middle of a political powder keg in Benghazi.
	The game is called EVE Online.
	It's a massive multiplayer game that lets thousands of people from all over the world interact in real time.
	Despite the wicked sounding name, VileRat was a diplomat for one of the game's biggest alliances.
	So he's a guy who loved his job so much that when he went home at night, he turned on his computer.
	This, by the way, is bullcrap.
	He was actually playing the game.
	When the attack occurred, according to reports I've seen from people who are on this multiplayer game site, where he actually started typing, oops, I've got gunfire, gotta go.
	The guy was always playing the game.
	Well, he may have been using it as an intelligence source.
	Thank you.
	And did it all again virtually.
	In fact, Vile Rat was gaming when the consulate came under siege.
	Oh, there you go.
	He wrote, quote...
	He didn't go home to kick back and rely.
	He's on the...
	He's gaming at work!
	Dooming we don't die tonight.
	Good job.
	Thank you.
	We saw one of our police guard the compound taking pictures.
	Within hours of making that joke in the cyber world...
	Okay, so I'm with you.
	I mean, this was a huge spy operation, but I don't know if it was necessarily intelligence, because the two...
	Well, go ahead.
	I'm just saying the gaming thing.
	I mean, it's a known fact.
	That's totally...
	Yes.
	And I can't believe that NBC would just...
	I mean, they're so shallow with their analysis.
	It's ludicrous.
	Well...
	Vile rat.
	I mean, you don't even see the humor in that name.
	But here's the...
	Here's the real question.
	So if I look at this, I think what probably happened in the reverse or, you know, we know that in Cairo, in Egypt, they're all angry.
	They were like yelling for Hillary Clinton to go.
	I mean, you can just turn on the camera and you can say, oh, now we have people angry outside the embassy.
	Probably almost any embassy that we have, there's always going to be someone who's pissed off at us.
	Remember when Hillary Clinton went to meet Morsi and there were people screaming, Clinton, get out, we hate you, go away?
	I mean, this is not like a big deal.
	I think the Libyan thing, something else happened there.
	And I believe it was probably Department of Defense.
	But more than likely military-industrial complex because the two douchebags who immediately came out and had something to say with it are the main guys when it comes to Libya.
	And we know that we've had some problems in Libya.
	It hasn't been as quiet as we wanted it to be.
	The Chinese were trying to sneak in and they built a refinery and they burned it.
	Right.
	So what did we really need to have happen?
	Well, the breaking news report, of course.
	Aaron, thanks.
	Good evening, everyone.
	There was breaking news tonight.
	American warships and U.S. Marines on the move.
	Drones airborne.
	And what appears...
	We got ships and Marines on the move.
	We got drones airborne.
	Woo-hoo, baby!
	We're coming down to Libya!
	I think we needed a reason to be there.
	We needed to get in.
	And I have one little piece of information...
	Which no one has discussed.
	But we're not going to kill our own people to do that.
	No, I don't think they meant to kill these guys.
	I don't think...
	But the attack was planned.
	It was, you know, some rebel group that was used.
	You know, whoever...
	They just, you know, they just took them on...
	Okay, let's back up a second and reanalyze this with that in mind.
	Let's say it was a false flag.
	It was an attempted assassination.
	They weren't supposed to kill anybody.
	And they screwed it up.
	And these guys died.
	And that's why Hillary was mad.
	What?
	Well, yes, because they killed one of her dudes.
	This was not the idea.
	Here's the thing that no one has discussed at all.
	On September 11th, it was the first runoff vote for the prime minister of Libya.
	And the guy who was in was Mahmoud Jibril.
	Remember this Jibril Jibril Jibroni that we've been looking at?
	Yeah, Jibril Jibroni.
	Right.
	So he beat, in the first round, the way they do it in multiple rounds, in the first round, he beat his competitor, Shagur, with 86 to 55 votes.
	Then, all of a sudden, this happens.
	And then the next day, on September 12th, Shagur beats the guy, and he is now the new prime minister of Libya, No one has talked about this.
	Of course, Mustafa Chagur, very interesting guy.
	He was born in Libya, and then he went back to the States to get his Ph.D., And received multiple research awards and grants from NASA, NSF, Department of Defense, FAA. And then he went back in 2011, and now all of a sudden he's Prime Minister after something happens, huge change.
	He was behind 86 to 55 votes, and now he beats it with 96 votes.
	This, I think, is where something was taking place.
	They needed to get the old guy out because he wasn't performing his duties.
	It wasn't happening.
	You know, we weren't able to get all of our...
	Yeah, put our guy in.
	We had big...
	And you know what?
	You know whose guy it is?
	I'll tell you whose guy it is.
	It's McCain's guy and Lieberman's guy.
	Oh, those two.
	Oh, yeah.
	You want to hear what McCain...
	He had a whole eulogy on the floor.
	A whole eulogy about him.
	I kept in touch with him often and frequently after my visit.
	I was very happy when President Obama nominated him to be America's ambassador to the new Libya.
	The last time I saw Chris Stevens was shortly after he had taken up his post during my most recent visit to Tripoli.
	I especially remember the lighter moments we spent together Including when Chris insisted on personally making me a cappuccino, a task that he carried out with as much pride and proficiency as his diplomatic mission.
	This is the comparison John McCain makes.
	This is...
	This is McCain at his best.
	The disdain for a dead guy to say he made his cappuccinos the way he did his job is just unbelievable.
	Just unbelievable!
	That was on the morning of July 7th The day Libyans voted in their first election in half a century.
	See, that's what really tipped me off to it, is that McCain is thinking about the elections, and these, of course, were the previous elections, and I think that we really needed something to be stirred up, and maybe our buddy here, the cappuccino maker, just wasn't, you know, he was, you know, maybe because he's on Hillary's team, and Jabril was Hillary's guy, they had to remove everything, and the message was clear.
	You know, you're out.
	You're out.
	We're taking you out.
	Everyone's out.
	We have a whole new changing of the guards.
	So, if it was CIA or Department of Defense or military industrial complex, I'm not quite sure, but it was definitely a big FU to the State Department.
	I think, you know, we've pretty much established that.
	You want to hear Lieberman?
	No, I love hearing it.
	By the way, I have a clip.
	I want to play a little Lieberman clip.
	When he talked, I have the clip of him where he sounds plastered.
	Should we play that first?
	Let's hear him plastered and see if it was the same when he was on the floor.
	I asked the question, is he plastered?
	You can play it and tell me what you think.
	President Obama to become our ambassador to Tripoli after the Gaddafi regime fell.
	This is also why his death at the hand of violent extremists in Benghazi, which was the seat of the revolution against Gaddafi, is so tragic and infuriating.
	No, I don't think he's...
	No, he's on some kind of mild antidepressant, maybe.
	But I don't think he's plastered.
	The fact is that the people who killed Chris Stevens yesterday in Benghazi do not represent the people of Libya or their elected leadership.
	No, they represent...
	Some agency.
	Or some a-holes that you work for.
	These killings require confronting the extremist minority.
	That imperils this future.
	The fanatics who want a clash of civilizations between Muslims and the West.
	Now this is interesting because he is talking real, you know, real warmongering Muslims, extreme Islam.
	He's not using the words, but he's really saying, hey, you know, we got to go after all that.
	I think that a lot of this was just like, we got to get some...
	Military movement going.
	We gotta get some stuff happening.
	We gotta get stuff going on.
	And who will try to justify their violence in the name of Islam.
	They are wrong.
	They are mistaken.
	They are on the wrong side of history.
	And finally, let me come back home and say to echo what Senator McCain has said, that I know there will be some here in our country who in the wake of this attack will be tempted to argue that it shows that America's support for the Libyan revolution was naive or mistaken.
	That the Arab Spring will ultimately be defined not by a desire for democracy and freedom among the people of the Middle East and Arab world, but by the dark fanaticism Maybe he was a little plastered.
	The funny thing is...
	By the way, the wrong side of history is a Marxist-Leninist.
	Well, Hillary says that she uses it all the time.
	And it comes from Karl Marx, I think it's in one of his books.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, it's a Marxist-Leninist meme.
	Well, surprise, surprise.
	So Hillary was actually on this morning.
	I don't know if you saw that.
	I mean, I was real bummed out because I was recording it and I came back.
	I went to the bathroom, came back, and the recording was like ruined.
	It didn't record on my DVR. But luckily, you know, after like 30 minutes, finally someone put it up online.
	Now she went back and now she's really playing up this fake movie angle.
	And this was surprising to me.
	It appears to me that perhaps someone said, you know what?
	You've got to keep this story alive or we're going to do more.
	Have a listen.
	Tell me what you think.
	I also want to take a moment to address the video circulating on the internet that has led to these protests.
	See, now a very different story.
	Yesterday, some say.
	Today, it has led to this.
	In a number of countries.
	Let me state very clearly, and I hope it is obvious, that the United States government had absolutely nothing to do with this video.
	Did she really feel that was necessary to say that?
	I'm wondering what that's all about.
	And she used the absolutely thing, which is all in detail.
	Absolutely.
	We absolutely reject content and message.
	America's commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation.
	And, as you know, we are...
	home to people of all religions.
	This is like another minute and a half, but it's very important we listen to it.
	I enjoy listening to her.
	Sometimes I just do it before I go to bed.
	I just put on a little Hillary tape and snooze.
	Many of whom came to this country seeking the right to exercise their own religion.
	Did you see her, by the way?
	Now she's got her hair completely pulled back and she's in her...
	It's a whole different mode for her.
	She had a whole bunch of bracelets that are jingling, jangling.
	This stuff is important.
	This is all thought about.
	Including, of course, millions of Muslims.
	And we have the greatest respect for people of faith.
	To us, to me personally, this video is disgusting and reprehensible.
	Interesting.
	To us, to me personally, do you think that she meant to replace the to us or just as an addition?
	Play it again.
	Can you play a little section again?
	Yeah.
	I wasn't sure if she was saying to us, I mean to me personally, or just in addition.
	To us, to me personally, this video is disgusting and reprehensible.
	What do you think?
	I don't think it was a flub.
	You think it was just adding on?
	Adding on?
	She may have said, to us may have been the line, and then to re-emphasize it, she said to me personally, that's what I think.
	What she meant was to me and Huma.
	To us, I have a mouse in my pocket.
	It appears to have a deeply cynical purpose to denigrate a great religion and to provoke rage.
	Yeah, about the incredibly bad acting, and this is not provoking rage.
	All right.
	Here comes something curious, though.
	But as I said yesterday, there is no justification, none at all, for responding to this video with violence.
	We condemn the violence that has resulted in the strongest terms.
	And we greatly appreciate that many Muslims in the United States and around the world have spoken out on this issue.
	Violence, we believe, has no place in religion and is no way to honor religion.
	Now, here it comes.
	Our country does have a long tradition of free expression, which is enshrined in our Constitution and our law.
	We do not stop individual citizens from expressing their views no matter how distasteful they may be.
	Okay, so far so good.
	I think we need to rein that in a bit, Hillary.
	There are, of course, different views around the world about the outer limits of free speech and free expression.
	But there should be no debate about I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I think she was pushed out to do this.
	Well, here's the way I would see it now, listening more and more to it.
	This was a failed operation of some sort.
	No one was meant to die.
	I don't think the ambassador was meant to die.
	Definitely not.
	This guy, if you look at his background and all he's done and everything about him, he is way too valuable an asset to lose.
	It's like losing a $10- $20 million asset.
	Like a rook.
	So he, which made her angry during the first part of this.
	And now they have to have a cover story so people don't start really looking into this.
	So let's stick with this video thing.
	It's the best we've got as a bogus excuse for what happened.
	And so, but Hillary already kind of screwed that up, so she had to come out and make good.
	Do it again.
	That's exactly right.
	She came out and she's back on the track.
	And then to make things even more distracting, let's get this Cairo thing cranked up.
	So people are looking at what's going on there.
	Because this is the distraction of the week style.
	Let's distract people by this Cairo demonstration.
	And then get off anyone really looking into what happened here.
	Because this wasn't...
	This was not how it was supposed to go down.
	And meanwhile, of course, they're bringing in these ships.
	Like, why?
	I mean, if they had...
	Which I believe may have been one of the things they tried to do, which was to kidnap a group of people the way they did in 1979.
	Really play the whole thing over the exact same script is what you're saying.
	Yeah, use that same script, kidnap them, and then you have the excuse to bring in the ships.
	Right.
	But you killed them.
	Damn.
	So there's no reason to bring in the ships now.
	Right.
	We're bringing them in anyway.
	So what are we going to do?
	Let's distract everybody.
	And so we don't know if we're bringing in a bunch of ships and drones and God knows what for no apparent reason.
	There's no reason to do that.
	I'll tell you what.
	Let's go to the videotape.
	Let's check in on Cairo.
	Has the Egyptian government condemned this attack on the United States Embassy?
	It's funny the Egyptian government's response here, and it has not been one that I think has been very pleasing to many U.S. officials.
	The U.S., if you remember, Washington had a fabulous relation with President Mubarak, so close that many Egyptians were very upset about that.
	Right now, the Muslim Brotherhood, not speaking exactly for the president, but the new Egyptian president is from the Muslim Brotherhood, says it is calling for demonstrations I think the message is, uh...
	What?
	It's against the pro demonstrations against the positive, negative.
	I don't know what he's saying.
	It's like, this was not in the...
	Where's the kidnapping?
	Who wrote this?
	Yeah, where's the kidnapping?
	John, let's just summarize because I think this is why people tune into our show early on.
	I think we've nailed it.
	So the point was, and we agree this is not a Hillary move.
	And of course, Hillary doesn't want Obama to win because she wants a Republican in.
	And she'd love to have idiot Mitt Romney in to screw it all up so she can come in 2016 on her white horse.
	Right.
	I would say that that's probably, I think, between Bill and Hillary, you have to believe that that's what their long-term plan would be.
	Because they've had this happen.
	George Bush Sr.
	was only in for one term, and he didn't really screw up that much.
	No, he just didn't have his plan for the re-election.
	And he's a Japanese guy, but besides that...
	I think that was kind of a bad thing.
	Yeah, it was good.
	And so he was in for one term and out.
	And being the ex-head of the CIA, you'd think you'd have a little better shot at it.
	You'd have something lined up.
	Exactly.
	So he's done.
	And so they know it's possible to get a guy in for one term where they could drive him out like they did Nixon.
	Right.
	But they know it's possible, so it's better for Hillary...
	Because Hillary hasn't got a prayer if Obama...
	Let's assume that the cycle theory and everything's correct and the economy goes into the toilet and stays there.
	We're not just assuming.
	We're believers, John.
	Well, I am.
	Yeah, I'm a believer.
	So she is toast into 2016.
	But if Romney gets in and all his big talk, he doesn't do anything and they can point their fingers and say, I was just another George Bush.
	They'll be carrying her in like she's the Queen Sheba.
	Yeah, so she has to be for Romney winning.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Of course.
	So she was not kept in the loop.
	I think I really like your...
	I'm not convinced of that, by the way.
	That she wasn't in the loop?
	Because if they're going to do an October surprise, they're going to get kidnapped hostages.
	No.
	Why wouldn't she want to have something to do with that?
	Because this is coming from the Obama administration or whoever is running the show and they want Obama re-elected.
	They want to roll the script.
	They want to play the 1979 Carter-Reagan script.
	So we've got to go and kidnap somebody.
	We've got McCain and Lieberman.
	They're like, hey, hey, come to our neighborhood.
	We've got everything all set up.
	The thing is, when it happened in 79, it got the other guy in office.
	Unless you're thinking that Obama's trying to kill his own re-election.
	No, no, no.
	Hold on a second.
	Hold on a second.
	I don't...
	You don't...
	I mean, it's not exactly the same scenario.
	But, of course, if we could...
	Listen...
	Before this happened, it was all about the economy, about jobs.
	We needed something dramatic to change the news cycle.
	It had to change.
	It had to move away from the failure in this country to something that the president can handle.
	So by changing this immediately to foreign policy, making Romney look like an a-hole, which I'm almost convinced this is all in the script.
	Hey, man, you come out early and say something really stupid.
	Okay.
	I'll do that.
	And then we'll come out and we'll make you look even stupider.
	It makes so much sense that if we can have some hostages, we have the fleet ready.
	At least we know something's screwy about this whole thing, unlike everybody else, apparently.
	The thing that I like is that we had the fleet ready, the drones are in the air, Marines are on the move, and we were coming in, and now they're just off the coast going like, oh, what now, Wolf?
	Because, of course, you're right.
	There's nothing left to do.
	The only thing now is now that they've brought Hillary back in.
	I just wonder, because now, of course, you actually have people going around to embassies going like, hey, screw you, America, which may not be groovy.
	I don't know if anything will happen or anything could come of it, but it's botched.
	Definitely botched.
	Totally botched.
	Whatever it was.
	Just because I have them, can we just play some...
	Because no one is playing anything from that movie.
	I just have like a couple of short clips.
	Yeah, play a couple of little bits from it.
	All right.
	So this is...
	Now, it was called Desert Warrior.
	And, you know, they've already tracked down one of the actors in the movie who actually has it on her IMDb, proudly displaying Desert Warrior.
	And the whole...
	It was just a really, really, really crappy, bad movie...
	Actors literally in a green screen room, they've projected the desert onto it.
	You see, like, tire tracks everywhere.
	This is just hilarious to watch.
	But all of the horrible things that are being said about the Prophet Muhammad, etc., is all overdubbed in a completely different voice.
	So this movie was not made with this in mind.
	Someone just went, hey, I still got this really crappy movie.
	Let's just overdub some stuff.
	Yeah.
	And then somehow it got translated to Arabic and was shipped over supposedly.
	I mean, how did that happen so quick?
	So here's a couple of choice bits, clips from the movie.
	Why do they do that?
	Oh, this is very funny.
	So here's a father and his daughter, and he is trying to explain that man plus...
	And he has a whiteboard in his living room, that man plus radical Muslim, which is overdubbed, equals death or some crap like that.
	And he's writing something entirely different on his whiteboard.
	But you can hear the difference in the audio.
	So man and radical Muslim...
	Have been together since the beginning of radical Muslim.
	That kind of thing?
	It's not as good in this one that's in the next clip.
	But this is the first one where you can hear her ambient sound and then we're going to go to him.
	It's completely different.
	Why do they do that?
	To protect Islamic crimes.
	It gets better, it gets better.
	The police committed fraud upon the Christians.
	They could save thousands of lives and billions of dollars of taxpayers' money.
	Man plus X equals Islamic terrorist.
	Do you hear it?
	Man plus X equals Islamic terrorist.
	Islamic terrorist minus X equals man.
	It's literally like I'm sitting here and saying, you know, I really love homosexual men.
	And I'm completely putting it in there.
	It's so freaking obvious.
	Here's another one.
	We are killed in the battle.
	Muhammad is Allah messenger and the Quran is our constitution.
	Yeah!
	Yeah!
	So that's a bit where the guy is saying something completely different.
	Just, I mean, the lips aren't even in sync, and you can hear the first bit before it, and then we move into this Allah thing.
	We are killed in the battle.
	Muhammad is Allah messenger, and the Quran is our constitution!
	Allah Akbar!
	Allah Akbar!
	And then here's my favorite one, where they dubbed in the prophet being gay.
	Daughter shall have the stars.
	Is your Mohammed a child molester?
	My God has been a child, and he's fifty-five years old.
	He's fifty-three, not fifty-five.
	And he has wealth and power.
	My daughter shall be his bride whether he say yes or no.
	He's the messenger of God.
	Yes, he is.
	And Omar also.
	And I love the echo effect.
	He said that?
	Yes, he is.
	And Omar also?
	Yeah.
	That's in there?
	Yeah.
	It sounds like it does.
	Oh, that's terrible.
	Yeah, this is bullcrap.
	This has been rigged.
	No, you think?
	But listen to, you know how when you...
	Not even a good job.
	I mean, this is rigged by an amateur.
	No, it's a horrible job because...
	If it was done by the agency or somebody in Washington that knew what they were doing, or Hollywood for that matter, it would have been slicker.
	This is why I'm saying it's a huge amateur job.
	Whoever did this is probably, if not fired, dead.
	But just listen to the echo effect they're trying to end the sentence with.
	It's really, really funny because the echo continues all the way through the next piece of dialogue.
	My daughter shall be his bride whether he say yes or no.
	Is the messenger of God gay?
	Yes, he is.
	And Omar also.
	I didn't know I was gay.
	That's funny.
	My goodness.
	That is the worst.
	Isn't it amazing?
	Isn't it amazing?
	Of course, no one will ever play this for you on the real radio.
	On the real, you know, just here in our little play.
	On the corporate media, you mean?
	No, no, real.
	This is, uh...
	We're here at play school.
	This is just our little, uh, our little, you know.
	We're not real.
	We're not real media, you see.
	Wow.
	Yeah, that's good, isn't it?
	Because I showed it to Mickey.
	And Mickey's like, were these guys SAG? SAG. We've got to find these people.
	They're in LA. You know they are.
	Oh yeah.
	Totally.
	Some cheap production.
	We've got to find them.
	So anyway.
	Definitely got to get a hold of the sound guy.
	But this is all ADR. They all did this after the fact.
	This is just a really, really...
	This is a 10,000...
	This is like a first year AFI student movie.
	And then you fail.
	You don't even get a passing grade for it.
	That's how bad it is.
	This whole concocted story of $5 million and Israeli businessman.
	I mean, what entity, John, could come up with such a flimsy story, yet is powerful enough to force...
	Secretary of State Clinton to go out and corroborate it the next day.
	I mean, that has to be military money.
	I don't see it being intelligence.
	I just don't, because she knows how to fight those guys.
	And they're not that stupid.
	They wouldn't do this.
	Yeah, you're right.
	They would do a hell of a lot better job than this.
	This is mediocre.
	It probably also angers her.
	This is what you're going to try to sell us, the public?
	Well, God, maybe they won't, you know, let's take it off, get it off the net, whatever you do, so nobody actually looks at it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, yeah, that can definitely be a reason why she's angry as well.
	But I'm just, who could be that powerful?
	I only think, this to me has McCain all over it.
	You know, this is the kind of stuff McCain would do.
	Ah, that's good enough, they're stupid.
	Yeah, I can argue about that.
	So that would mean military-industrial complex.
	It's probably one of these contractors, and they subcontracted it out.
	Here's the easy way to figure out who it was.
	We wait about four, five, six months, and we just keep watching Iraq.
	I'm sorry, Libya.
	And then we see what big contract was just filed and who got the money.
	Somebody's going to get a lot of money.
	That's the guy.
	That's the guy.
	That would be him.
	And the crazy thing is that on September 11th, Channel 4 in the UK cancelled airing actually quite an interesting documentary which questioned Islam's origins.
	The Untold Story is what it's called.
	And of course you can find it on BitTorrent.
	Historian Tom Holland.
	He has like an hour and a half And I can see, of course, they didn't air it because they received threats from the Islamic community.
	And this was like a real, you know, there was real money in this.
	You know, the guy traveled and he's trying to find the history of Islam and Muhammad.
	And he goes to the Holy City and he goes to Mecca.
	And it was a very interesting document.
	I don't want to get too much into the content of it because it was like, wow, it was very strange.
	You know, basically saying that, you know, this Muhammad thing, you know, there's no written history except for the Quran.
	There's nothing else.
	There's no tablets.
	There's no other books.
	Nothing.
	And they canceled it for security reasons.
	It's called The Untold Story because when you hit the Google, you get a novel by Monica Sun, The Untold Story, a Hong Kong crime thriller with Anthony Wong.
	There's like no references to this thing.
	According to Taylor, who is the...
	I guess he produced it.
	Media coverage was a factor in whipping up, quote, a false storm of protest over the program, which she described as a good bit of history.
	So, you know, they could have used, and maybe they intended to, but they could have used an actually a really good program.
	But I guess because, you know, they didn't have America.
	Boy, this is buried, too.
	I mean, really buried.
	The story behind Canceled UK is a UK documentary.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Suggesting Islam is a made-up religion by some historian, Tom Holland, who looks like a...
	You have to see this guy's picture.
	Hey, you just went helium on me.
	Yeah, sorry.
	Hey, hang on.
	Yeah, sorry.
	Don't worry, I have all kinds of good stuff to play.
	In fact, let me bring out Omar again, because that's just my favorite.
	Your daughter should have the stars.
	Is your Mohammed a child molester?
	Our daughter's been a child, and he's 55 years old.
	He's 53, not 55.
	And he has wealth.
	And what, by the way?
	Hold on.
	I want to hear Omar again.
	Can you hear me?
	Can you hear me?
	We've heard Omar twice.
	No.
	Yeah, I can hear you.
	Okay.
	What is the point of making the, of the, of the voice 53, not 55?
	What is the point of that?
	There's some historical reference.
	There must be an argument or something.
	Yeah, probably like, you know, just more stuff.
	And it, who knows?
	The whole thing is bogative.
	Who knows?
	Who knows?
	Yeah, so this Channel 4 documentary, they pulled that on the same day that this one all of a sudden ramps up and gets some coverage.
	The documentary, I saw it.
	You can bit torrent it.
	The Untold Story?
	Mm-hmm.
	It's pretty good.
	I have no idea if it's true or not.
	You know, the guy's basically saying, you know, when the Arabs took over Israel, or when they moved in initially, no one knew what their religion was, and there's no documentation.
	That's kind of the premise, is like all of a sudden, a hundred years after Muhammad lived, that's when everything appeared, the Quran, etc., I don't know.
	But it was nicely made.
	It wasn't a piece of crap like this.
	I don't know if that was part of it, if they decided not to use that, but there was definitely a little skirmish, and then that got pulled.
	The thing's definitely somewhat suppressed, obviously.
	This was running in Al Arabian News.
	It's the only reference I can find to it.
	And the guy was threatened on Twitter.
	This is your new...
	Welcome to the new modern age.
	Oh, would you...
	You know, this is the...
	This is really big.
	We just move right...
	Let's just move right away from this topic.
	This is now happening in Australia.
	This is how we go with being threatened on Twitter, everybody.
	The New South Wales Premier says he'll call on the federal police to investigate a vile Twitter attack aimed at rugby league star Robbie...
	So, hold on.
	The...
	Violent Twitter attack.
	Oh, yeah.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	It gets better.
	Farrah...
	Last night, the West Tigers captain was targeted by an internet troll.
	Trolls!
	Who posted sickening, sexually explicit tweets about Farrah's mother.
	Like, your mother wears army boots.
	Who passed away in June.
	Premier Barry O'Farrell has thrown his support behind the player, saying it shouldn't matter who the target is, it is completely unacceptable, and that he wants to work with the federal police to stop it.
	So now if you say something nasty, like your mother wears army boots, then the federal police might come after you.
	We are good.
	Oh yeah, be very, very good.
	We were watching X Factor last night.
	They kicked off the season.
	And they had a huge bullying thing on the show.
	It was so well done, John.
	You know, this girl, Demi, she's like a Disney kid, and she was bullied, and she started that whole Stay Strong movement about bullying.
	And so I don't have any clips or anything.
	And so this girl gets up on stage, and then she says, you know, I love you as a judge because I had the same tattoo, and I was bullied.
	And then she sang her song, and she was crying, and Simon Cowell's crying.
	Everyone's crying, and she was strong, and she showed the bullies.
	It was really like, wow!
	Oh, man, they really laid it on thick.
	Although, I will say it was kind of cool that they didn't, you know, like, you know, it was basically you can beat bullies by being better than them.
	So that was kind of a good message.
	But it was clearly a setup.
	It's really interesting what's going on in television these days.
	I mean, if we had just switched roles and I had just did what you did or done what you did, I would be you as me would excorrent.
	I don't see why you're watching this crap.
	No, you wouldn't.
	Because...
	Not Honey Boo Boo.
	I introduced Honey Boo Boo to the staff at Mevio.
	And I did watch The New Normal.
	And by the way, here comes Honey Boo Boo.
	Well, there's a Honey Boo Boo ban here on the show.
	I did watch The New Normal.
	You brought it up.
	I watched The New Normal.
	Did you watch The New Normal?
	You forgot to watch The New Normal?
	I did.
	Oh, and I even texted you.
	I even texted you.
	I said, remember to watch The New Normal tonight so you can kill yourself.
	You didn't get that text message?
	Well, I'm still alive.
	Apparently not.
	Did you get some clips?
	No, because I thought I was convinced you'd have the clips.
	I can't believe you didn't have that.
	I don't know why I didn't.
	I screwed up.
	Oh, man.
	That's really bad.
	Well, it'll be on again next week.
	Will it?
	No, I think it will.
	Let me just tell you.
	Give it two weeks.
	There's something I really like about it.
	And let me explain.
	Ellen Barkin plays in this, and she plays the bigoted, crazy white lady who hates everything, but she says it.
	And this is what I like about the show.
	So she's literally like talking about the two gay guys who are going to have a child with her granddaughter, surrogate.
	She's like, what is this salami-smoking hut I'm in?
	And she's like, I just landed in a gay and black sandwich soup.
	She's just like rolling out one after another.
	Yeah, the Archie Bunker revisited.
	Perfect.
	And it's great.
	That I love.
	It's great.
	What's up with these salami smokers?
	I mean, really?
	That's on primetime.
	This is good.
	I mean, the show is ridiculously horrible.
	Completely stereotyping of any male homosexual relationship.
	I mean, like right down to everything.
	Completely stereotyped.
	What network is this on?
	NBC? NBC, I think.
	Oh, that was a loser.
	NBC. They're the worst.
	Yeah, but anyway...
	Before we go on, we better thank our executive producers before we get too far along.
	We have pushed it.
	Well, we had to get to the important news, and I know our executive producers will appreciate that we do that.
	So we have three executive producers and one associate.
	And first executive producer is Richard Fowler from Aiken, South Carolina.
	And we looked and looked and looked.
	Beer Geek is one of his emails.
	And it came in as an instant night with 10-6-9-6-9.
	Whoa!
	So I think that counts.
	Well, hold on.
	I think we have a...
	I mean, it counts as a Swazilov?
	I think it does, yeah.
	We have a...
	It's 69, 69.
	So he's kind of a twofer.
	That's your super schwoz enough.
	So he's a twofer.
	Came up with a thousand for a guest tonight and plus a 6969 and no comment.
	Now that's impossible.
	How can there be no comment from him?
	Well, I know.
	You know, sometimes not everybody has to have these long-winded comments.
	No offense to the long-winded commenters.
	That's true.
	I'm just going to look and just make sure.
	I like this idea.
	Yeah, of no long-winded comment, just rolling straight, straight.
	It's obvious.
	The comment, he's making his point right there.
	He's saying, I meant to do 6969, but my finger slipped on the keyboard.
	And then we have 444.44, which is a double producership for Sir Dwayne Melanson in Tegard, Oregon.
	Wow.
	Tigger.
	In the morning, Sir Dwayne here, still working on earning the barony of Oregon and getting very frustrated with the BS politics in this country.
	And you guys keep me saying thanks to your excellent deconstruction, especially lately around the conventions and other political tomfoolery.
	Congratulations on the five years of hitting people in the mouth, AK-47, and generic handguns to the max, baby.
	And it's a 44444, which is just awesome.
	We sent this out in the, I guess you sent it out in the newsletter.
	And of course we have episode 4444 coming up on Sunday.
	So this is great.
	And four is a very nice rounded number.
	By the way, since he mentions AK-47, one of the topics we haven't really talked about too much in depth on the show, but we're probably going to get around to it, which is the laughable destruction of any potential for gun control as long as there's these 3D printers which can now actually print a gun.
	Yeah.
	And there's been a number of guns.
	And the great thing is that most of the gun code, the code that you put into the printer to print the gun, is public domain.
	Yeah, open source.
	It's out there.
	It's open source.
	So you can print now.
	Now, of course, you'd need different kinds of materials so you can get a gun so you can fire it more than three times before it blows up.
	But that's all covered by many of these systems.
	So you can do it.
	I mean, you can print a gun now.
	And that means you can't stop it.
	It's over.
	This gun control thing is done.
	What happened?
	I've got to print myself a gun.
	Well, not only that, but even ammo is going to be relatively simple.
	Yeah, ammo is a little harder to print because you can't print gunpowder.
	But to manufacture, it's just not all that hard anymore.
	Yeah.
	Anyways, we'll make this a topic of discussion in a future show so people know that at least we're on it.
	Sir Douglas Garul, or Gerald, G-E-R-U-L-L, Boulder, Colorado, Boulder, 444.
	Nice.
	John's recent thank you to the Knights made me embarrassed.
	I have not contributed in a while.
	This and other donations from Knights, which, by the way, we forgot to say hello today.
	We haven't done it yet, don't worry.
	We haven't done our in the morning greetings, don't we?
	Will, and we'll get to it in a moment.
	To the night, Aaron, is an unintended consequence or even an intended what good move?
	I will stay old school with the request and ask for dedouching, for listening and not donating, and for any other transgressions I've been oblivious to.
	A shot of karma towards helping close a deal on a project next week will be...
	That I've been chasing for a while would also be great.
	Also, thanks to you both for the good work.
	I sincerely hope Adam is right there, is right that there are moon bases and Mars bases.
	However, I will continue to take some small pleasure in monitoring Curiosity's progress just in case Adam is indeed crazy at times and not faking it.
	Cheers from Doug.
	Jeroel.
	I'm sorry, that was for you.
	I didn't mean that.
	You've been de-douched.
	You've got karma.
	You know what's happening is, it's now been two weeks since we stopped smoking, and now my eyesight has improved, but now it's gone the other direction.
	So now it's like, now I have to...
	You gotta back up.
	Yes, I gotta adjust the glasses the other way.
	So, sorry.
	And finally, Felix Cornici in Farmingham, Connecticut.
	$200.
	No agenda, episode 440.
	I asked for karma for my wife.
	It worked!
	The best investment I ever made.
	Forget the 401k and pension plans for everybody out there.
	Go with karma and keep the show running.
	Awesome.
	I love that.
	Whatever it means.
	So let us say right now, John, in the morning to you.
	In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground, subs in the water, and to all the knights out there who listen religiously to our show and support us in a big way and have formed a rather large club, I'd say.
	Yeah, for sure.
	And in the morning, of course, to all of the human resources who we see once again lined up, charged up, ready to go in our chat room, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net.
	And thank you to Hero Protagonist for the artwork on our previous episode.
	Love to see your contributions at noagendaartgenerator.com.
	And we do have one PR thing that one of our...
	One of our producers is working on it.
	It's not really ready for prime time, but it's something I think will really...
	It's one of these things that everyone's always bitching about, and he finally went and made it.
	Go to eclipse.curry.com, John, for a minute, and check out...
	Now, what he's done is he has a system where he takes an episode.
	This is episode 440, and you can just annotate it.
	And then you can skip to any bit in the stream to that particular part of the show.
	And this is something that people have always said, oh, it would be great if we could do that.
	No one's ever done it, and he went ahead and did it.
	I'm still going to call.
	I'm looking at this.
	Yeah, I knew this would happen.
	Sorry, I should have thought about the fact that when you're downloading audio, you go not just helium, you're now in uber-oompa-loompa mode.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, say something.
	Hey, everybody!
	It's John out here right now.
	Every time I go to a webpage on this thing, this is what happened.
	So you shouldn't tell me to go to Chris.Curry.com.
	Alright, so we appreciate that initiative.
	It looks like we're going to have some authoring tools for that coming out very soon.
	Thank you very much to our executive producers, our 444 club members, and of course our associate executive producer.
	Without you, we could not get it done at all.
	Remember, you need to go to...
	Dvorak.org slash N-A And of course, there's always, always, always our formula which needs to be propagated.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out...
	We'll hit people in the mouth.
	All right.
	Are you back?
	Wow.
	I thought you'd at least be back by now.
	Darn.
	Alright.
	Well...
	Hello?
	What do we do now?
	Hmm.
	Yes, I can hear you.
	Can you hear me?
	Hello, Obi-Wan Kenobi.
	Can you hear me now?
	Yes, I can hear you.
	Hello?
	God.
	Why do we have this effect now?
	What did you say?
	You've been doing what?
	You can't hear me?
	Say it again and you cut out.
	I've been using this exact same rig for almost five, as of next month, for five years with no changes.
	The way I take it back, the first year and a half, I didn't use the PR40 mic and I had a preamp.
	But after that, it's still the same rig.
	So what's changed?
	And why would you be blaming my rig when nothing's really changed for years?
	Instead of blaming the real problem, which is Skype and Microsoft.
	Okay.
	Easy does it.
	Skype and Microsoft.
	Yeah, it's cool.
	It's cool.
	Skype and Microsoft.
	Usually when someone says, I've had this for five years, it's time to upgrade something.
	There's nothing needed to be upgraded.
	It works great until just like two months ago when I upgraded my Skype.
	No.
	I think we already determined that this is not Skype.
	Because what have you upgraded more than Skype?
	I can tell you what you've upgraded more than Skype.
	No, you can't.
	Firefox.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Firefox?
	How about, oh gee, Adobe?
	I'm not so quick to blame Skype on this.
	Okay.
	You make a good point, especially the Adobe, that crappy, that miserable, the weekly update of Adobe's Flash.
	Yeah.
	I should just pull it off the system.
	Exactly.
	Right.
	Breaking news, John.
	Breaking news here this early Thursday morning.
	We have Iran, Yemen, Egypt, and Libya.
	We're talking about all four this morning.
	New clashes now and anger.
	It's really spreading throughout the Middle East in the quiet hours.
	CNN reporting mobs of protesters outside the Swiss embassy in Tehran, Iran.
	Which handles U.S. interests there and at the U.S. embassies in Sanaa, that is the capital of Yemen, and of course in Cairo in Egypt.
	That's right.
	They hate us.
	They hate us because they want better acting.
	Wow.
	Yep.
	That's breaking news.
	Breaking news.
	Let me just look over here.
	Breaking news.
	Breaking news.
	You know what I think?
	I'm just looking at here.
	U.S. warships move toward Libya.
	U.S. promise.
	I think we've got to move on from the topic, but you're so right because now the president still kind of had that script.
	We'll get whoever's responsible.
	This whole thing was ready.
	I can see CNN had the lower thirds ready to go.
	We'll get whoever's responsible.
	My goodness.
	I'm telling you.
	I like it when they roll the lower third before somebody says something.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	I know.
	I've seen that a couple times.
	Or they have the captions, so-and-so says, even though they're about to say it.
	I got some interesting drug PR. Which, yeah, so you kind of got me on this Haldol thing.
	Got me really interested in it.
	This is a gift that keeps on giving.
	It really is.
	And now, if I recall correctly, you read about this from, was it Susan Lindauer, who was the whistleblower?
	She was a translator, I believe, and she, because I've read her book, I think.
	Yeah, she's like a very big critic of a bunch of stuff going on.
	She's on a lot of talk shows.
	Anyway, yeah.
	She said that they threatened her.
	They jailed her for no reason under terrorist charges.
	Right.
	And then threatened, held all her, and she knew that would be bad, and so she shut up until she got out.
	Right.
	Well, I read her book, which I have to say was pretty poorly written.
	I don't know if it was self-published or something.
	You know, a lot of mistakes in it.
	It's a rush job for sure.
	But here is one of her interviews where she talks about Haldol.
	And of course, we already went through the, you know, I'm still looking for someone to send me some Haldol because now I'm really, really interested in it.
	Yeah.
	Thirty days after I requested to testify, I woke to hear the FBI pounding on my front door with an arrest warrant, and I was arrested on the Patriot Act.
	I was the second non-Arab American arrested on the Patriot Act, subjected to secret charges.
	Were you tortured?
	I was locked up in prison on Carswell Air Force Base.
	I was held for five...
	I was under indictment for five years with no trial.
	I was held...
	When I was locked up in prison, the government declared that I was not competent to stand trial, and they requested permission to forcibly drug me...
	Here it comes.
	This is...
	Now write this down, because this is what I want to try.
	...with Haldol, Ativan, and Prozac.
	Can we get that combo, John?
	Do you think we can get the Haldol, Ativan, and Prozac as a perfect combo?
	Who can we use to do the show after you've been zombified?
	Well, listen to what actually happens to you just on the Haldol.
	She goes into a great commercial.
	For all of you who are fortunate enough not to know what Haldol is, that's a chemical lobotomy.
	Haldol imitates the effects of Parkinson's disease.
	So that it has the effect of making you like a statue.
	You cannot walk or speak.
	You cannot write.
	You cannot read.
	You cannot process information.
	You are essentially a drooling statue and you can't wash or bathe yourself.
	It's a horrible, horrible...
	I need to try this!
	Send me some Haldol!
	I mean, it's a commercially available product.
	Now, they're prescribing...
	A drooling statue.
	They're prescribing this...
	With the tongue hanging.
	Wait, they're prescribing this for Tourette's Syndrome.
	I'm legit...
	I'm just going to go to the doctor.
	I'm just saying, I need some Haldol.
	I hear it's what I need.
	I can't wait.
	I mean, this sounds great.
	We better find out how long it takes to wear off.
	And it's reserved in prisons for what it's supposed to be reserved in prison.
	No, she doesn't say how long.
	No, I mean, I'll do it after a Sunday show, so we'll at least have, you know, it shouldn't last more than four days.
	You know, up until the next show.
	Please.
	I'm not bathing you anymore, Adam.
	All I have to do is just hit one button.
	Dvorak.org slash N.A. Now, this next bit of drug PR was beautiful.
	So we have this Navy SEAL. You might have seen him on, did you see the 60 Minutes interview?
	Oh, you know, I have it.
	I've taped it.
	I watched part of it.
	I was going to sit down and actually deconstruct it and pull out some clips.
	I haven't done so.
	Okay.
	I don't know if it's really worth it.
	Just whatever.
	I don't think the guy is real.
	I don't think the story is real.
	They couldn't put out the Navy SEAL movies, so they had to...
	It's just, oh, let's just make it real.
	Make it like it really happened.
	I wouldn't argue that that's a possibility.
	But in order to finance this, because it's a lot to get a book going, I'm pretty sure that the pharmaceutical industry is involved.
	Now, this is probably...
	Because you're going to hear Ann Burnett, as we like to call her here in Texas.
	She is going to mention some things in the book.
	And this whole segment is a commercial, not just for Ambien, but how to actually use Ambien.
	But the reason it's in the book may be because...
	The chemical for Ambien is out of patent, and Lunesta, I think, is probably the U.S. competitor.
	But just listen to the PR. There's no doubt in my mind, this is a commercial.
	Former Navy SEAL Matt Bissonnette is on the top of the bestseller list now for this book, No Easy Day.
	He's one of the SEALs who killed Osama Bin Laden.
	And in the book, there was this revelation.
	The SEALs team used Ambien to function.
	Bissonnette wrote, and I quote him.
	Did you hear that Bissonnette wrote?
	Did she just say Bissonette Rotes?
	To use Ambien to function.
	Bissonette Rotes, and I quote him.
	Hey, he wrote.
	He wrote.
	Hey, back off on the Haldol, Burnett.
	Bissonette Rotes.
	I popped two Ambien.
	My head was still cloudy from Ambien.
	It took me three times to get out.
	In his account, Bessonet took at least six ambience between the time he left the United States for the raid and the return flight from Pakistan, which is less than a week later.
	Always two at a time.
	Military psychiatrist Dr.
	Elspeth Ritchie is out front tonight.
	So now we bring in the doctor who's the expert on ambience.
	Notice she's already said two at a time now.
	Dr.
	Ritchie, I think a lot of people were surprised when they heard this.
	Let me just...
	No one was surprised.
	No one gives a...
	This is such an obscure reference in this book that he popped a couple Ambien and was groggy.
	Let me ask you this question.
	Does this surprise you?
	Is this...
	The Ambien use seems to be so commonplace.
	Ambien use is fairly commonplace, but in short dosages and short periods of time, it's often used, both in the civilian world and the military, to have people be able to sleep on the long plane rides.
	It's a great drug!
	So that when they get to where they're going, they are awake and refreshed and alert.
	Oh, this is a commercial!
	Isn't it awesome?
	Isn't it awesome?
	It gets better, though, because now we're going to get into how much Ambien you should actually take.
	Oh, this is horrible!
	No, this is great!
	The fact that apparently he was still groggy after taking the Ambien, that is a surprise, because he should have taken it earlier, it should have worn off, and he should have been at full functioning.
	Because it's a great drug!
	He just didn't do it right!
	He was saying, in fact, in his book, he said both he and the other SEALs were taking Ambien two at a time.
	Two at a time!
	You're not supposed to do that, according to the manufacturer.
	Ah, wait!
	Hold on a second.
	You trying to be critical of our pharma commercial here?
	I'll set you straight, Burnett.
	And he also said, specifically on this case, that the day he flew to Pakistan, he tried to get through a gate that was locked with a combination lock, and he had to re-enter the code three times because he was so groggy from the ambient.
	Well, Ambien is used for people to get to sleep.
	It wears off fairly quickly, but it will make you sleepy.
	Now, I don't know about the two at a time because Ambien comes in 5 milligrams and 10 milligrams.
	I'm not sure how much he actually took.
	But it does sound like that he was taking it too close to the time that he needed to be able to function.
	Now, I'll tell you, it's always a challenge and it's something the military wrestles with.
	How do you get people to sleep across these time zones or when they get to a new place and have them be awake and refreshed when they get there?
	It's not easy.
	Any traveler can tell you that.
	That's right.
	And any traveler should just take Ambien.
	Wow, this is just dreadful that they would do this.
	Isn't that amazing?
	Yeah, this is for travelers, people who travel, or maybe you're going to go on vacation.
	Your wife or husband's always moaning and groaning about the fact that you get jet-lagged.
	Oh, well, let's get some Ambien.
	Look, look, military use it.
	Military use it.
	Seals use it.
	We could change the packaging.
	Great job on the two-at-a-time comeback.
	Oh, yeah.
	It comes in fives.
	That would be two at a time.
	It comes in five and ten milligrams.
	You just have to take it on time so that you have enough time to wake up.
	He didn't do it right.
	Yeah.
	Now approved.
	What is this log-gate combination?
	How did they know the combination A and then B? I thought they just flew into the yard and ran up the stairs.
	This is why I know it's a commercial.
	Because, you know, when he went over to Pakistan, it's in the book.
	It's like, you know, Pop 2 Ambien went to sleep, and then when he came back after the raid, he was, you know, obviously he's amped, he's hyped, you know, he's whatever, and he couldn't get out of a combination lock because he had took too many Ambien's or whatever.
	He hadn't done it right.
	But it's like a throwaway in the book, and it's now being highlighted for the commercial.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, I'd say it's a pretty effective commercial.
	I'm looking at this, I'm like...
	Oh, no, I mean, if you don't notice it's a commercial and you're being suckered by CNN because it's an embedded commercial, yeah, it's a great ad.
	Pretty good, huh?
	Yeah.
	Talking about somebody taking Ambien...
	So I caught Amy Goodman.
	Wake up, John.
	Wake up, wake up.
	I caught Amy Goodman.
	I think they had the confusion gun pointed at her.
	Oh, no.
	So I caught...
	First, there was this one...
	Play clip number two first.
	Oh, that makes sense.
	Because I actually produced this one a little bit so you can hear.
	I always thought it was Benjamin Netanyahu.
	Not Ben...
	Netanyahu.
	So just play this and hear your pronunciation.
	Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has been claiming to be in talks with the U.S. on setting a red line for Iran's nuclear program.
	Benjamin Netanyahu.
	Okay, now I have clip one, which was the most amazing clip I've ever heard of this woman, and this is not edited.
	She makes the exact same mistake twice, and it sounds like this.
	You're losing an appeal of a controversial conviction that many have compared to a political witch hunt.
	And you think it's funny when I talk about Pussy Riot, and now you have to, like, bring this one out?
	Play it again.
	Come on, one more time.
	I heard it.
	Oh, it's hilarious.
	After losing an appeal of a controversial conviction that many have compared to a political witch hunt.
	Hey, you know, it's not easy, you know?
	It's hard.
	Go easy on her.
	Go easy on her.
	Well, this whole Benet and Yahoo thing is, I have to say, is there's a lot of crap going on with this.
	And the...
	Let me see if I can find it here.
	The insider over there at Ulsterman.
	I haven't caught up with that.
	Yeah.
	So you remember when...
	Netanyahu was visiting with President Obama.
	And he was very pissed off.
	Remember, he left through the side door.
	I think he even arrived through the side door.
	The whole thing was weird.
	And so the insider...
	Two days ago said, okay, let me tell you exactly what happened, exactly what President Obama said to Netanyahu.
	And so I want to read this quote because I think it's quite telling.
	You ready?
	Yeah.
	It's according to the insider, and I think this is probably...
	The Ulsterman report.
	Yeah, the Ulsterman report.
	Quote, Obama said to Netanyahu, you have just as much blood on your hands as they do.
	They got a right to exist as well.
	Everybody does.
	And I don't want this thing, this back and forth, you and them, I don't want this turning into an election issue for me, right?
	I can't be telling those people how to treat your country any more than you want me telling you how to treat them, right?
	You see where I'm at with this?
	Don't you turn this into something that they might take away Jewish votes from me.
	That's what you got going here.
	I know what you're up to.
	Don't do it.
	This thing, Iran, don't try.
	Don't hurt me politically with it.
	You need us.
	We don't need you.
	That's believable.
	I think it's highly believable.
	And so, of course, this is why we have Netanyahu now coming out and making all kinds of nasty comments against Hillary and against Obama.
	I got something here from PBS. How does the U.S. election calendar play into Prime Minister Netanyahu's calculations here?
	Well, I think it plays quite heavily.
	Prime Minister Netanyahu would never admit that, but we see a line of increasing tension, some of it deliberately, between the Israeli government and And the American administration as close as we get to the elections.
	It is clear that the White House asked Israel and put quite a lot of pressure not to launch a preemptive strike, at least not before the elections, in order not to create an oil crisis that would damage the Obama campaign.
	On the other hand, we know of course of quite close ties between the Republican Mitt Romney Prime Minister Netanyahu, and I think that Netanyahu, as close as we get to the elections, is harshening its criticism towards the administration, and we see some sort of coordination between the Mitt Romney campaign and what Netanyahu is doing in Israel.
	So you think there's collusion there?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	What do you think?
	Yeah, I'm liking it.
	And this is awesome.
	Yeah, this is very, this is interesting.
	Yeah, it is.
	So, there was a couple of interesting things I ran into earlier.
	Well, actually, since you brought it up with an example of Obama showing backbone, I caught this the second time.
	I don't have a copy of the original meme that's going out, but there's a meme they're throwing at Obama and the administration that they're trying to put it into.
	Remember with John Kerry, they ran against him with he was a flip-flopper.
	Republicans are better at this than the Democrats are, creating this little, just a little jazzy term.
	So I ran into the second use of it, but I think I've heard it before on the radio.
	This is kind of interesting.
	Glenn Beck now has his own TV network.
	Yeah, it's the internet thing, right?
	No!
	It's on TV. It's on cable.
	It's on the dish.
	It's called The Blaze.
	Oh, yeah.
	They've had a website and stuff going for a long, long time.
	No, they've had a website, but now they've got a full 24-7 programming, including the infomercials, and a bunch of hosts and different people you've never seen before that are now competing.
	And I believe...
	hosts it i believe that within the network the blaze yeah i believe that within six months to eight between six and 18 months from now it will actually have better ratings than msnbc that's just a i'll put that in the book Well, you know, MSNBC, of course, is really kicking it right now, now that they've just decided to go full-on, you know...
	Yeah, but that'll end when the election's over.
	So two months from now, MSNBC, no one's going to care.
	Right, right.
	So let's play.
	I got this clip, and it's got the meme in it.
	And I think we're going to...
	This is another thing.
	I believe we're going to start hearing this meme over and over again to the point where Jon Stewart can just play 50 of them in a row.
	Yeah.
	As protesters on its grounds, having violated the sovereignty of the United States, having that embassy reiterate a statement, effectively apologizing for the right of free speech, is not the right course for an administration.
	Meanwhile, the guy who actually is president continues to be wishy-washy in his response.
	He's being this guy, not this guy.
	Is wishy-washy?
	Does that really qualify, John?
	Oh, yeah.
	This wishy-washy?
	That's no good.
	Yeah, you're going to hear it over and over again.
	Really?
	You're going to start hearing it.
	It's like flip-flopper.
	You watch.
	Wishy-washy.
	Obama, yeah, he's okay, but he's wishy-washy.
	Oh, I don't like that one at all.
	Well, you watch.
	Oh, no.
	You're going to hear it.
	It's the best they can do.
	Yeah, no, I know.
	I don't like it at all.
	I don't like the wishy-washy.
	It'll watch it take hold.
	You're going to see this happen.
	So this Blaze TV has actually been around for a year.
	It's just now it's on the Dish Network.
	Yeah, I don't know where it was.
	Was it on digital cable?
	No, just on the interwebs.
	Well, the interwebs, yeah.
	The Blaze thing has been on the interwebs more than a year.
	But this is like now it's being broadcast.
	The Blaze TV celebrates one-year anniversary with Beck's return to traditional TV and Dish Network launch.
	So, I think it's just, you know...
	It's a year old, but now it's because it's on The Dish and it's going to be on Comcast, and Beck is back on TV. I mean, yeah, it's been around a year, but it hasn't been around a year.
	I mean, this is the beginning of the network.
	You watch.
	Yeah.
	No, I... And it's already better than MSNBC, as far as I can tell.
	Really?
	I can't watch any of that.
	I can't.
	I mean, I OD'd after the new normal.
	It's like, wow.
	You're watching CNN. No, no, no.
	I've stopped.
	CNN, I can't.
	I'm now watching MSNBC. You have like three clips from CNN on today's show.
	No, it's all MSNBC, my friend.
	No, I'm watching MSNBC now.
	It's more entertaining because they're so hilarious.
	Do you know the Toure guy?
	He has his own show.
	Who?
	Toure?
	The hip-hop meister?
	Yeah, yeah, I know.
	Toure, yeah, he's got a show.
	I think he replaced, didn't he replace Sharpton?
	Sharpton still has a show?
	No, Sharpton still has a show.
	Oh, God.
	It's really bad.
	No, you can't.
	It's unwatchable.
	It's unwatchable.
	Ah!
	That's kind of what he...
	Maybe he's on Haldol.
	That may be it.
	No.
	No.
	Sharpton still has his show.
	But the Touré guy...
	There's no real conflict!
	The Touré guy has like Afternoon Drive or something.
	And it's just...
	He's smug and they're playing hip-hop songs in and out of the breaks.
	It's exactly what I want.
	I want to sit there and just go, Oh, I hate this.
	This is so lame.
	So I watch that.
	I was watching PBS. And if you're ready for it, I can do this.
	Let's do it after the break.
	The idiotic clip of the day from PBS. Oh, let's roll an idiotic clip of the day.
	Can we do that?
	Yeah, hit it.
	Whoa!
	Look at all the flowers and fruit!
	Hello, you lovely flower beds.
	It's time to wake your flower sleepyhead.
	Mom, are you singing to the plants?
	They like it.
	Another Howl Doll commercial.
	Obviously.
	I said it was idiotic.
	Before we go to the break, I received a wonderful email that I wanted to share with you.
	And this actually led me into this story about what's happening in Southern California with the stink.
	Did you hear about the stink?
	No, I didn't know the stink was in town.
	Well, the stink was in town.
	I got this email from someone who signed off as SLS. My daughter told me she was suffering from a stomach ache and nausea being in the LA Pasadena area for several hours with a foul odor in the air.
	So then I asked my daughter, what would Adam Curry say?
	And she texted back, I bet if a couple of people emailed about it, you wouldn't have to wonder.
	So, for your responding pleasure, I bring you an unexplained stench.
	And then she brings me this link from the LA Times.
	And what happened is, literally 150 miles away, where Salton Sea is, which we've talked about on this show, they are saying, they're claiming, that because the fish died in Salton Sea, the wind swept the stink, which was making people actually nauseous.
	Like physically ill, they kept children inside not going to school, that that came from dead fish in Salton Sea.
	Which seems highly unlikely to me.
	I thought you were going to tell me that Sting was at the Hollywood Bowl.
	Seriously.
	So she wraps up this email.
	Although I'm a douchebag for not donating, I'm carrying the heavy banner of what seems to be the only, you ready John?
	The only African American woman, urban gardener, and chicken keeper.
	Yes, I make my own bread and jam.
	No Agenda listener, which currently earns me exactly zero actual dollars.
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	It's especially effective in restaurants.
	And just so John doesn't think all the listeners find their way through the rabbit hole via Twit, I learned of No Agenda whilst looking at my feet on a city street, a No Agenda stencil painted on the sidewalk.
	All right!
	It has since been painted over, but not before it changed my life.
	How awesome is that?
	We need more of those stencils.
	Yes, we do.
	I'm going to show myself the world by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	Get your stencils.
	In the morning.
	We do have a few people to thank, including Anonymous in Brooklyn.
	$136.35.
	I commute 14 miles a day each way by bicycle in the middle of NYC on most days.
	Got hit by a careless car on Monday.
	And as I was hitting the pavement, the thought that passed through my head was, oh, oh, karma ran out.
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	I make way too much money in IT to die young or remain a douchebag.
	I would like a triple karma shot.
	First 6969 relationship to karma.
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	33.33, staying alive karma for me and all those who commute by bike.
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	I listen while biking.
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	Why don't I give you a magic number three karma?
	That would probably be it.
	33.
	That's a magic number.
	Going under.
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	You've got karma.
	Hey.
	Rodney Staben or Staben?
	In Houston, Texas.
	I like Staben, but Staben, I'm sure, $100.
	Staben.
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	So, yeah.
	Well, okay.
	To our resident Buzzkill and you guys, here's to you for fighting the good fight against Bank of America.
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	And here we go with our segment.
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	69!
	69, dude!
	Wilford B. Kessler, Lebanon, Pennsylvania, 1969.
	The science is in.
	For the past 10 years, I've been a good slave and received my flu shots annually.
	My wife and I were discussing it and came to the conclusion that we haven't been sick anymore for less than the 10 years prior.
	I've had enough of this scam.
	Instead, I'm donating the amount we would have spent getting flu shots for the family, including the dog.
	Yes, our local doggy daycare is now requiring dogs to get the flu vaccine as well.
	Okay.
	The kicker is, on the information sheet they provided, it states the flu vaccine does not prevent the dog from getting the flu.
	Wait a minute.
	How much money do you think they have wasted that could have been donated to this fantastic podcast?
	How much money have they wasted?
	Well, just think of the scam for the entire public.
	Wow.
	WTF, he says, hey, at least they're being honest about screwing you for some extra cash.
	I find it interesting that for as long as dogs have been around, the canine flu just started about four years ago.
	I'm sure the deadly canine flu spreading to humans will be the next pandemic.
	Anyway, I need a de-douching.
	I've been a boner for too long.
	I've been listening since show 350 or so and recently have gone back and started listening to it from the beginning.
	Your podcast is too awesome not to donate.
	Truly the best podcast in the universe.
	You hope to become a knight.
	And he wants to shut up, slave, to the head karma, I believe.
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	Shut up, slave!
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	Nate Wilson, special Swazilnuf donation, $69.69 for my wife, Catherine.
	Her birthday is $9.14.
	I hope she's a wonderful birthday shout-out for her.
	You do.
	She enjoys that Dvorak slide whistle.
	Can you please play happy birthday on her slide whistle while...
	Wait.
	Can you please play happy birthday for her on the slide whistle, Maestro Dvorak?
	Also, Adam, thank you for all the wonderful insight about our government and world news.
	Can I just stop you right there?
	Wait a minute, hold on.
	I'm the slide whistle guy.
	Yes, exactly.
	And I am the guy with the wonderful insight to world news.
	And you are the slumber.
	See, he's actually better on the slightness.
	I am.
	I'm better there, too.
	And I'm handsomer.
	I'm pointing people to the No Agenda shows about the pipelines and understanding the No Agenda show when Adam and Mickey were on wedding vacation.
	These are great episodes to get people on the show.
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	Thanks for all you do.
	Karma shots for both of you and your families.
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	You've got karma.
	Hey, I forgot to ask you.
	Did you like the thing that blew up your computer?
	Did you like the checking out the individual clips of the show?
	Sorry?
	That clips.curry.com thing that I told you to look at at the top of the show.
	Yeah, no, I did.
	I liked it.
	Isn't it cool?
	Yeah, it looks very cool.
	I'm going to play with it.
	Chris Malmy in Cherry Valley, Massachusetts.
	Nuts.
	69-69.
	In the morning, John and Adam.
	Great analysis of the unemployment figures in the last show.
	After Adam stopped with the one-liners.
	Sorry, Adam.
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	It's tinyurl.com slash clvhouse.
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	I want people to donate to the show because they think that we're a great show.
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	But wait, there's more.
	If a listener ends up buying the house, which is not going to happen...
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	That would be too weird, by the way.
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	That would be it for today's segment of donors, which could have been better, but we did have a nice instant night.
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	Yeah, no, totally.
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	Well, we appreciate whatever we get.
	Every once in a while I get an anonymous donation and the guy says, I don't want to say anything, I don't want you mentioning the donation, and I don't care about my name being, just leave me alone.
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	Patch.
	It's a patch.
	Now, I saw that you had one clip, one Euroland clip in here.
	Actually, I have a couple.
	I have a lot on Euroland, and so I think that our clips are probably complimentary.
	Maybe.
	Maybe not.
	Well, maybe, maybe not.
	If I can start with the big news...
	About the European Central Bank, which has now become essentially the banking gestapo in Euroland.
	This is for all of you in Europe who don't watch the correct news, which is pretty much all the mainstream stuff.
	Here's actually what's happening in your area.
	The EU Commission has unveiled sweeping plans for the European Central Bank to supervise all of the Eurozone banking system.
	The reforms, which still need approval from member states, would give the ECB responsibility for the bloc's 6,000 or so financial institutions.
	In Strasbourg, the EU's financial services chief, Michel Barnier, said he hoped the system would be up and running soon.
	When?
	After the text is approved, we hope things will be in place before the end of the year and that the European Central Bank will have the power to directly supervise any banks that it believes are at risk.
	So this is pretty unbelievable.
	Where you now have the centralized force in Brussels, essentially the boss of commercial banks.
	And this comes along with the approval of the, which I think I told you way before it was even on the radar anywhere else, the European Stability Mechanism, which was moved up an entire year earlier, all predicted actually on this show.
	Now, Germany has said, yeah, you know what, we're okay.
	According to our constitution, the bailout is good up to 190 billion euros.
	For some reason, that was stipulated in their laws, I guess.
	So, this is the plundering can now start.
	And all this money, this European money, this 190 billion euros from Germany, and I know it's 40 billion from the Netherlands, God knows where it's from, all these other countries, is going straight into these commercial banks, which are now actually being run by the European Central Bank.
	Yeah, it has to be ratified and they have to put all the laws through, but that's going to happen.
	It's a complete, total, and utter takeover.
	Where did you get that number?
	Because my number is 500 billion.
	What, the German number?
	Yeah.
	No.
	The total ESM is, I think, is $600 billion.
	Germany says that they can be on the hook for $190 billion of the $600 billion.
	Well, play Eurozone in German court.
	Okay.
	Well, it's not something you hear us say very often, but there was good news for the Euro today.
	Voters in the Netherlands cast their ballots for pro-European parties, and in Germany, the country's top court, approved German involvement in a bailout fund of indebted Eurozone countries.
	The ruling did have limits, but as our Europe editor Gavin Hewitt now reports, it's being seen as a way to help stabilize the single currency.
	For a moment today, Europe's eyes were on these eight men and women, the judges of Germany's constitutional court.
	Would they declare the Eurozone's new bailout fund illegal and throw Europe into turmoil?
	In the name of the people, we reject the petition.
	And with those few words, the judges gave the go-ahead for a fund that is seen as central to fighting the Eurozone crisis.
	Right.
	And that's the ESM fund.
	Okay, play number two then.
	So, what did the court agree?
	It gave the green light for Germany to contribute to the Eurozone's permanent bailout fund, the ESM. With a 500 billion euro war chest, the fund is seen as central to helping out troubled Eurozone countries.
	Well, it's 600.
	I got it.
	It wasn't 500 billion from Germany, just 500 billion.
	Correct.
	More of the clip?
	No, that's good.
	So, but this wasn't, this was just the minor thing that happened, which, and I'd love to hear Horowitz's take on this, because people are saying, well, this either means the accelerated demise of the Eurozone or guaranteed hyperinflation.
	I'm not sure exactly.
	This is kind of the two options that I'm hearing.
	Meanwhile, Manuel Barroso, Barroso, Piso Barroso, he gave his State of the Union.
	I'm sure this wasn't covered like when Barack Obama gives his State of the Union.
	And he rolled out something that floored me.
	Did you hear what he said in his State of the Union?
	Yeah, play it.
	Alright.
	This is our political horizon.
	This is what must guide our work in the years to come.
	Today I call for a federation of nation states, not a super state.
	So let me just...
	And by the way, you're going to hear the crowd go, whoa!
	It's literally now a federation.
	This is Starfleet Command.
	I mean, this is exactly what we've called it for years.
	He's calling for a federation of nation states.
	A democratic federation of nation states.
	That can tackle our common problems through the sharing of sovereignty.
	Sharing of sovereignty?
	Isn't that a dichotomy in terms?
	You can't share sovereignty, can you, John?
	It's not a dichotomy as much as it is contradiction.
	Contradiction in terms.
	That's ridiculous.
	in a way that each country and each citizen are better citizen?
	Did he say citizen?
	Yeah, citizen.
	Hey, citizen.
	Well, the way he's about to treat them, and mine is, we all call them citizens.
	What do you do on a citizen?
	You citizen them.
	To control their own destiny.
	This is about union with the member states, not against the member states.
	In the age of globalization, pooled sovereignty means more power.
	Pooled sovereignty means more power?
	Not less.
	Well, black is white and red is blue and up is down.
	Are you okay?
	Are you okay?
	Why wouldn't I be okay?
	It sounded like someone like...
	It was a box that fell from the shelf and hit the other shelf.
	I thought you would just hit the floor.
	It sounds good, though.
	It has a good sound effect.
	Yeah, I thought...
	Yeah, I'm like, there's like a dead fish slap.
	I'm like, John just keeled over.
	I'm going to use that when I keel over.
	And I said, on purpose, a federation of nation states, because I think...
	In these turbulent times, in these times of anxiety, it will be a real mistake to leave the defense of the nation just to the nationalists and the populists.
	Ah!
	Hello!
	Did we not talk about this just the other day?
	Like, we can't have democracy where we have nationalists and populists.
	No, these are now evil people.
	He's literally calling out opposition as nationalists and populists, and these are bad, bad people.
	They're not part of democracy.
	I believe in a Europe where people are proud of their nations, but also proud to be European and proud of our European values.
	Creating this federation...
	And listen to the slaves clap.
	...of nation states...
	Will ultimately require a new treaty.
	Oh, a new treaty, you say?
	I was waiting for that to happen.
	And I do not say this lightly.
	No.
	We are all aware how difficult treaty changes become.
	It has to be well prepared.
	Discussions on treaty change must not distract or delay us from doing what can and must be done already today.
	So here's the plan.
	A deep and genuine economic monetary union, like this whole bank takeover, first we do that, can be started under the current treaties, but can only be completed with changes in the treaties.
	So let's start it now, but let's have the horizon for the future present in our decisions of today.
	Lovely.
	Just lovely.
	So that was yesterday.
	Today, He came back and he laid it on even thicker, which was not his State of the Union, but he was still in Parliament.
	They're all in Strasbourg this week.
	You know, they travel back and forth between Strasbourg and Brussels.
	And the whole populist thing, he really laid it on.
	This is unbelievable.
	This is dictatorship.
	This is...
	I'm amazed that people are not rioting in the streets over this type of language coming out of the European Parliament.
	Before you get to that clip...
	So, after he gave the State of the Union, then Farage came out with a scathing.
	I had clipped it, but it was like so long, and there were some questions and answers in the whole thing.
	I have the whole thing.
	You have the whole thing, too.
	It's too long, but the thing I think was interesting is then Barrosa comes back at him, which I've never seen before.
	He came back at him and started slamming him, and then Farage went back at him again, and that's the clip I have.
	And that took place before, if there's a newer clip.
	You know, I think...
	I have the hits back clip, but how come mine is one minute and yours is four minutes?
	And mine's cut down.
	No, no.
	I think you have the one where he went against this.
	No, no.
	I have that, too.
	That's eight minutes.
	I have that one, too.
	Hold on a second.
	Let me...
	First, let's play the second...
	Because you don't have the second piece.
	This is where...
	But this is actually the second piece that I have.
	No, no.
	This is our great complimentary clips.
	Well, I have 57...
	No, I got a clip.
	You got a clip.
	No, no.
	It's not the right clip.
	You already heard my clip.
	Here's the clip.
	There will not be a magic solution.
	It will require time, determination, persistence, coherence.
	I know that populists...
	Populists, they manipulate feeling and anger.
	They can give a very simple solution.
	The solution is no.
	Wow.
	This is the guy in charge over there.
	Populists.
	You know, I would like...
	Is that my clip?
	No, this is my clip.
	Well, play my clip then.
	Well, hold on.
	To say no is easy.
	Say no to Europe is easy.
	Difficult.
	And that requires leadership is to say yes, but to say how we can move forward.
	And that is why I'm asking you.
	To bring the conditions for a true European debate with a true European democracy.
	And I'm making the signal for the next European elections.
	Because I believe in democracy.
	I was elected since I was 29 years of age in my parliament.
	Mr.
	Farah, don't look at me like that.
	Because in fact, I really have a great admiration for the...
	Wisdom of the British people, every time you've tried to be elected in Britain, you are rejected.
	That's why you came here.
	It shows that the British people know that it's much better to keep you away from your own system.
	Did you have that in your clip?
	Yeah, that's my clip.
	Okay, well, then we have the identical clip.
	And now I'll play my version of Farage's comeback.
	Farage.
	Well now, you claim to be a good Democrat.
	It's a very twisted form of democracy when you say that all of those political parties that get votes with whom you don't agree are not relevant.
	It's a pretty obscene definition of democracy to decry those of us that believe in national democracy and European cooperation.
	You call us populist, extremist, xenophobic and nationalistic.
	Barroso, the The point about democracy is you engage in debate.
	You listen to what the other person has to say, you put it to the public, and you accept the result.
	That is what real, genuine parliamentary democracy is about, and you seem to actually despise that and everything that those of us that stand for national democracy believe in.
	And to tell me...
	That you're in this position because this parliament voted for you.
	We were only given the chance to vote for one candidate.
	Is that your new model of European democracy?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you better believe it.
	That's the way my clip ends, but there's a whole prelude to that, that you cut out.
	Well, I have another clip, which is like the six-minute clip that you probably don't have.
	No, I had it, but I thought it was too long and boring, actually.
	What I liked about that six-minute one is that at the end of that, there's a guy that asks him some dumb question, and then he blasts the guy.
	Did you really like that?
	Did you really like that?
	I liked the comeback, yeah.
	I cut that out because I thought that was kind of boring.
	I like the comeback.
	It was short.
	It was only like 30 seconds.
	It was a great comeback.
	The other thing goes on and on and on.
	And the other problem with the long one, which you have there, is that we've heard the almost exact same pitch before.
	The reason why I didn't, because it was the Austrian guy, and he says, how do you get elected in England?
	Do you have to kiss the Queen's ring?
	No, no, no, not that question.
	No, it was another one.
	Really?
	No, I know which one you're talking about.
	Yeah, that's the big fat guy.
	Yeah, wait a minute.
	No, there was a skinny guy.
	No, they're all fat.
	No, no, this was a skinny guy who asked a really lame question.
	Is it at the end of your clip?
	Well, let me check it out.
	Let's find it.
	And what annoys me today to be very open with you.
	Is that him?
	No, no.
	I believe, isn't that the president that's talking from the podium and then Farage blasts him for playing politics from that seat?
	Where's your skinny guy?
	The skinny guy?
	Well, I mean, I have to go.
	Yeah, where's the skinny guy clip then?
	I've got it.
	I'll have your Sunday show.
	All right.
	Well, so here's one I know you don't have.
	So we have a new guy standing up all of a sudden, a conservative from Gitmo Nation East, and he is now joining ranks with Farage, which is interesting.
	His name is Daniel Hannon, and so he's with the Tories, I believe.
	And for him to now basically join with Farage in the European Parliament is very interesting.
	And I thought what he had to say was very Farage-esque, but succinct and short, which I like.
	Mr.
	Barroso, we keep hearing these terrifying biblical predictions of what would happen in the event of a Euro breakup.
	We've heard the same thing over and over again.
	We heard it 20 years ago in my home country over the ERM. We were told that it would be inflationary and unemployment would rise.
	In fact, our recovery began the day we left and carried on for 15 years before Gordon Brown came along to mess it up, but that's another story.
	We had the same thing in Denmark.
	We were told that if they voted not to join the euro, inflation would go up, interest rates would go up.
	In fact, precisely the opposite happened.
	The Copenhagen Stock Exchange enjoyed its greatest 24-hour rise in history.
	Inflation and interest rates fell.
	The same thing in Sweden.
	I suspect that even you, in your bones, know that the best option now for the peripheral countries is to default, devalue, decouple, to price their way into the markets, to start exporting their way back to growth.
	It wouldn't solve everything, but it would be an alternative to this downward spiral of deflation, poverty and immigration.
	And that's really what you're afraid of.
	If their economies would recover, the credibility of the Eurocrafts would not.
	Hey, citizen.
	The citizens would be back in charge.
	We have jingles on the fly here.
	You ready to hear that one again?
	Hey, citizen.
	Hey, citizen.
	Yeah.
	And you know what?
	I think he's probably right.
	Yeah, the Eurocrashers, they're riding high.
	I mean, these parliaments and these meetings and these councils, they got the council, they got the parliament, they got three or four of these big boards as a drinking club.
	They get they live it up in some of these towns wherever they have these meetings.
	And they just sit around and and extol the virtues of what they do and set up committees to tell people how to make cheese and cheese making countries.
	And it's just a joke.
	You know what the best thing about this ESM was kind of just refresh your memory on the ESM on the articles of the European stability mechanism.
	So now this is going to have well, your clips at 500.
	I think it's 600 billion euros, but it's open-ended.
	And so if there's a cash call, within two weeks, everyone has to pony up the cash.
	There's no questions.
	There's no cap.
	Well, in Germany, there'll be a cap.
	190 billion.
	There's a cap, and they have to go to the parliament, the German parliament, to get more money.
	But it's a lot of money.
	You know, $190 billion.
	But here's what's interesting.
	Article 32, paragraph 3.
	The ESM, its property, funding and assets, wherever located and by whom ever held shall enjoy immunity from every form of judicial process.
	Do you remember this?
	Yeah.
	Article 35, paragraph 1.
	In the interest of the ESM, the chairperson of the Board of Governors, governors, alternate governors, directors, alternate directors, as well as the managing director and other staff members shall be immune from legal proceedings with respect to acts performed by them in their official capacity and shall enjoy inviolability in respect of their official papers and documents.
	So if they screw up, in fact, they are more sovereign.
	This ESM will be more sovereign than any of the countries in the Eurozone.
	These guys actually are sovereign.
	That's very good, yeah.
	Yeah, they're more sovereign than the countries are going to be.
	The archives of the ESM and all documents belonging to the ESM or held by it shall be inviolable.
	The premises of the ESM shall be inviolable.
	They are supreme.
	Supreme!
	If you're going to make anyone supreme, you might as well make a banker.
	So, and of course, Gitmo Nation lowlands.
	They basically voted for the same douchebag to be prime minister.
	Although Geert Wilders really dropped like a rock.
	He lost a lot of seats.
	So now it's the Feife of Day, which is right, I'd say the conservative right-leaning.
	They had one, I believe they had one seat more than the Labor Party.
	So they will have to work together if they want to form an insta-coalition.
	But essentially it's the same guy.
	Ritter.
	Idiot.
	So the Dutch have voted for pro-Europe for more of this crap, which you just heard.
	Congratulations.
	They did a good job on shutting Geert Wilders up.
	I think that really worked.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	What do you think they did to make it so effective?
	Totally demonized them.
	Oh, that works.
	Oh, yeah.
	Because my buddy, Taxi Eric...
	Yeah.
	You remember him, right?
	So he was total, he had Wilder's guy, and he was like, nah, nah, this is all, they're messed up, they're not doing it right.
	I mean, the campaign was really, really good.
	You mean even your man got suckered into the propaganda?
	Yep, yep, he sure did.
	He sure did.
	So, well, that's great, because, you know, you'll be, you're on the hook now for 40 billion euros, and, you know, taxi Eric, you'll be paying your share.
	Pray, citizen.
	Enjoy that, everybody.
	Have fun with that.
	I'd love to hear...
	And you know the joke of it is, of course, based on the economic cycles, it's not enough and it will do nothing.
	No.
	Now, I've been thinking a lot about your cycles.
	Which sounds really weird.
	I'd like to know just one more time.
	It could happen in October, this October as in next month.
	Because everything seems to be offset a year forward.
	Okay.
	So the economy could collapse in October.
	Or?
	Or sometime in 2013, probably that October.
	Or it could be right after the election.
	Sometimes you have these issues.
	Some things happen in March.
	It's not usual, but it does happen.
	Oh, so...
	Okay.
	All right, so we basically have three.
	It can be...
	Well, if you pump enough money into the economy, you can push this off to 2017, but then you're done.
	You can't push it off any further.
	Well, the Federal Reserve just announced it will continue its policy of purchasing new debt up to, I think, $40 billion a month.
	That was just announced this morning while we were doing the show.
	That's $480 billion a year, which is a little short.
	It's too short?
	Yeah, they really need to...
	Of course, they lie.
	As you remember, the first couple of these tranches, they lied.
	And when somebody started looking at the books, there were trillions of dollars being dropped into the system.
	So it's possible.
	I know Bernanke is a student of depression, so he knows this too.
	But he knows that the public is not buying into the idea of what I say.
	There's a few other people that say this, but generally speaking, it's not a popular idea that, yes, let's just print $10 trillion worth of money and get it into the system as fast as we can.
	That is not something that anyone would actually say.
	They think you're crazy.
	Well, you said it.
	I know, but I have zero effect on policy.
	And let me say something.
	The response from our listeners, by and large, in general, to your suggestion that we need to pump $10 trillion into the economy was, he's crazy.
	That's pretty much what everybody said.
	Yeah.
	So they're not going to do that.
	And none of this is going to work.
	So the cycle's in play and it's going to collapse the system.
	And it's either going to happen this October or it's going to happen sometime next year.
	And believe me, you can take that to the bank.
	If the bank is still there.
	Let me see what my gold is doing today.
	$36.70 up.
	Nice.
	Silver up.
	Very nice.
	So instead of pumping $10 trillion into the economy, I have two other questions for you.
	Could we just give people gold in the amount of $10 trillion?
	Just actual nuggets?
	Would that work?
	Well, that's what happened in the 1850s.
	They gave people nuggets?
	No, people just went and found them.
	But essentially what we had in the 1850s and why we didn't have a depression on the cycle moment, which would have been in 1850 to 1860, which should have been a huge depression, is that we pulled out in today's money...
	$30 trillion worth of precious metals in silver and gold from the ground during that era.
	And we didn't have a depression.
	And that was free money.
	And I see no difference between a pile of gold being what we use for our money and then a bunch of free money, which is the same as printing money.
	Well, hold on.
	Hold on.
	I'm with you now.
	So why don't...
	Here's a plan.
	Instead of printing the money, and I know if there's no difference to you, then it doesn't make a difference.
	So then why don't we just go down to Fort Knox and divide up the gold that we apparently still have there and just mail everybody a chunk.
	That's not the same as adding new gold.
	That's just distributing the gold that's there.
	So, but people will use it.
	It's not the same.
	People will go and buy stuff with it.
	Yeah, but there's some complications.
	Oh, yeah.
	Are you pulling the old it's complicated?
	I don't know that that would work.
	That's just like saying, why don't we just bankrupt the country and give everybody money and everything will work out.
	No, now the country's got no money.
	Okay, can I have a different scenario that I thought of?
	Because I thought about this.
	I'm really thinking about what you're saying.
	I'm not laughing at you.
	Let me, by the way, say to you, you're not getting any free money, so...
	Dream on.
	Go on.
	All right.
	So what if we did this?
	What if we printed up 10 trillion Dvorak bucks, right?
	Okay, now you're done now.
	No, listen.
	No, listen.
	Here's a question.
	Dvorak dollars, which would be only valid within the United States.
	You couldn't buy anything overseas with them.
	Couldn't we then...
	It's illegal.
	No, no.
	But if the government does it, it's not illegal.
	Why would they print a Dvorak buck?
	Because your face would look cool on it?
	No, it wouldn't.
	No, but seriously, because then you can manage the...
	You can basically create one big bad bank overseas.
	Give all the other dollars to Europe.
	It seems like there's something in there.
	We just need to reboot somehow.
	You can't just keep going into trillions and then the quadrillions.
	It's a cycle.
	We're screwed.
	So let's just live with the cycle and see what happens.
	I need some help.
	It's the cycle.
	We're screwed.
	It's all there is to it.
	I mean, all this trying to fix it.
	And even if you pump in the 10 trillion a couple times, 30 trillion in the system, it still craps out.
	You can't get out of the cycle.
	I'm sorry.
	Okay, no, it's all right.
	I'm with you.
	What do we need?
	So let's say next month is coming up.
	It's like it's on the way.
	Hopefully the economy won't collapse before our fifth anniversary.
	But if it did on our fifth anniversary...
	Now that would be cool.
	That would be cool.
	Miss Mickey has art shows coming up.
	We can't have the economy collapse.
	After October 15th, it'll be okay.
	All right.
	Let's hope it doesn't collapse.
	I mean, I'm not all for this idea.
	I'm just saying that...
	No, you are saying just like the sun rises and the moon comes out, it's happening.
	And I'm going to agree that you probably, you have something here.
	I'm down with your cycles.
	Historically, you got it down.
	I mean, if you had the book out, now, I mean, that would be good timing.
	Because there's no better marketing for your cycles book than to have the economy collapse based upon a cycle.
	I have to get, Well, because I'm sitting here arguing with you instead of writing the book.
	Oh, okay.
	And finishing the book.
	It's your fault.
	All right.
	Good night, everybody.
	Thanks for coming.
	It's your fault, honey.
	Thanks for coming, everybody.
	Okay, so here's...
	Okay, are you done with me?
	Let's just face it.
	We're screwed.
	I have one more question.
	I'm not mocking you.
	This is interesting stuff.
	I can't talk to anyone else about this.
	When the economy collapses, what can we expect?
	Well, this is a problem because if you look at every one of these collapses going back to the 1600s, they all have a variation that is unexpected.
	None of them are the same.
	What happened in the 70s wasn't the same as what happened in the 30s.
	What happened in the 1890s isn't what happened in the 30s or the 70s.
	And before, what happened in the 1850s was not...
	They're all dissimilar.
	The only similarity is that it's a collapse of the economy and it's a mess for any number of years.
	And it ends in this cycle at 2020 or 2019 if it's up a year.
	Could you answer the question?
	No, you don't know what.
	A lot of stuff doesn't make sense now.
	Real estate, for example, should be following the pattern of gold because it's limited.
	It's valuable and it's limited.
	You can't make it.
	Real estate prices should be going up, but they're not.
	Even Buffett wants to own apartments.
	Yeah.
	So you never know what's going to be.
	Okay, maybe I'm not phrasing.
	The only consistency that I can say that happens in every downturn, as Swedes studied this, in all these downturns, farmland goes up in value.
	That's the only single one thing that you can count on.
	So I was kind of looking at it a little more pragmatically.
	Does this mean that the system of supplying supermarkets will collapse?
	Does it mean that money will not come out of ATMs?
	No, not important.
	They'll all be okay.
	Oh, okay.
	So then if the economy...
	Wait a minute.
	When we had the bailout in 2008, it was because, you know, pandemonium, people would be killing each other, eating each other on the streets.
	It didn't happen.
	No, I know it didn't happen, but you're saying if it happens, that's not what's going to happen?
	It's not going to be that kind of pandemonium?
	Meeting each other on the streets.
	There's going to be more homeless, probably a lot of crime.
	I mean, just the standard bad stuff.
	Impossible to get a job.
	A lot of people living at home with their parents.
	Right.
	Well, that's already happening.
	Yeah, that's already happening.
	Yeah, and it's just going to get a little worse.
	And it's just going to be a bad situation.
	And no one's going to know how to get out of it.
	And how do we get out of it?
	Oh, well, in 2020 and 2019, there should be a world war of some sort.
	I believe that's when the Civil War starts in Europe, and we get out of it by cranking up, by getting involved.
	2020, so it's going to be a seven-year itch, seven-year thing, seven years, seven, well, that's what they say, the seven fat years, you get the seven thin years.
	So here's the deal.
	Every 80 years, we've had a conflagration.
	We had an 18, in the 1700s, we had our Civil War on an 80-year cycle.
	I'm sorry, the Revolutionary War on the 80-year cycle.
	80 years later, we had the Civil War, right on time.
	And 80 years after that, we had World War II. Which is right on time.
	And 80 years after World War II will be 2020.
	And that's when I think we'll have, who knows what kind of war it's going to be.
	But generally speaking, I would suspect it's going to boil down to that, what we've been predicting on the show, which is the civil war in Europe.
	Okay.
	So I would like to give you, in case we haven't put them in already, and I don't understand why you sound a little annoyed.
	Like, I'm not mocking you.
	I'm really serious about that.
	Yeah, the dollar bill's got to me.
	No, but go on.
	But we've discussed this before.
	No, but I know.
	Yeah, well, I mean, then we might as well stop doing the show if we can't discuss things anymore.
	What's your final thing?
	See, why are you going to be like that?
	Because you're not getting to the point.
	You're just mocking me for, like, trying to move it along.
	I'm not mocking you.
	Now I forgot what I was going to say.
	No, you were going to say something about the Civil War and write it down.
	You wanted me to write something down.
	I was going to say, if it's not already in the Red Book, then I'd like you to put in October 2012, March 2013, and October 2013, and then...
	You know, if that happens, then it'll be real easy for us to just put the 2020 European Civil War in there.
	I mean, that's okay.
	Or it could be 2019.
	But please don't be annoyed when I'm...
	No, that's okay.
	I have to bring...
	And the dollar thing, I'm not saying these things to mock you.
	I'm trying to come up with alternative scenarios.
	I don't think there are any, and that's the point.
	You don't want to hear that part.
	I do hear that part, and I'm totally down with it.
	I can just ask.
	I think we're screwed, is what I'm thinking of.
	Not if we elect Gary Johnson.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	We had a discussion, you and I, some months ago, about the fact that Republicans were quite determined to keep you out of the debates.
	And they did so in cahoots with CNN, I believe.
	And now they want to keep you off the ballot as well.
	What have you done wrong?
	Well, I would be talking about issues that aren't being talked about by other candidates.
	You know, the notion of not bombing Iran, the notion of getting out of Afghanistan tomorrow, bringing the troops home, marriage equality, believing that it's a constitutionally guaranteed right, ending the drug war, repealing the Patriot Act.
	I would have never signed the National Defense Authorization Act.
	I'd like to balance the federal budget tomorrow.
	I'd like to kick crony capitalism in the rear end by adopting one federal consumption tax, abolishing income tax, corporate tax, and the IRS. I like this guy.
	That's a list I can stand behind.
	What did he say?
	He said that the Republicans are trying to keep him off the ballot?
	He's on the ballot in every state and they're trying to get him off the ballot?
	No, he's not.
	There's three states that he's fighting right now.
	I haven't seen a single element of that in Mitt Romney's platform.
	Or Barack Obama's either.
	So, anyway, big differences between myself and the other two guys.
	And I want to point out that I'm going to be on the ballot in all 50 states.
	Right now I'm on the ballot in 47 states and the District of Columbia.
	We're litigated in the three states where I'm not.
	And these are formidable challenges that are being launched by Republicans.
	But the truth is that you have been fought in places like Virginia.
	So there's three states that he's still fighting.
	Apparently he said Virginia's...
	What are the three states?
	I don't know.
	The douchebag states.
	We've got to find out.
	Yeah.
	Well, we can find out pretty quickly.
	I look it up, but...
	But...
	Yeah.
	Hold on.
	I guess...
	I don't know if I produced the show, but now I have to do all the work during the show.
	Yeah.
	Apparently.
	I'm going to put a little side machine over here and I'll use that because I think you're right.
	It's one of these browsers.
	In honesty, he paid his way through college as a handyman.
	I have, let me see, continue to cite.
	I have a separate machine just for Skype that I use.
	You're going to have to do that.
	Let me see if it says anything about...
	They should have that like a headline.
	How come he doesn't have that as a headline?
	Hello, headline.
	I gotta get him on.
	You have a single machine for Skype?
	Why should anybody care about that being a headline?
	Oh, I see what you're saying.
	Yeah, have Gary Johnson, it'd be a headline.
	Wow, lay off the Haldol, man.
	Gary Johnson on ballot 47 states.
	He's polling at about, I think, 5% now, which is on the radar.
	And the reason why they want him gone is, you know, that 5% is what, here, three states, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.
	Oklahoma is a weird one.
	Pennsylvania, of course, is a Biden state.
	And Michigan, well, Michigan is owned by the unions.
	That's Obama's state.
	Right?
	Yeah, but I want to see the Republicans fighting him there.
	I can see that in Oklahoma.
	Well, the Republicans just want to take it.
	I don't know.
	You know what?
	I don't know.
	What the hell do I... You know what?
	Who cares?
	It's a sad...
	I'm voting for him.
	That's why I make it publicly known.
	I don't care about these other two guys.
	I think I'll vote for him, too.
	I think I'll vote for him, too.
	So here's the thing.
	Let's play this.
	This is Obama.
	Obama's speech is now.
	By the way, he does that thing, oh, I'm so sorry this guy died, and then he rushes right to Nevada to give a speech.
	Off to the slots.
	He goes right to Nevada, and then he goes to someplace else.
	But anyway, he's giving a speech at some school or something.
	And his speech now is mostly him screaming at you.
	Yes, it's effective.
	So this is Obama finishing up a speech, and then they crank up, as he's leaving, shaking hands, he's got a grimace on his face.
	They crank up a Bruce Springsteen song, because him and the boss are pals.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And the Springsteen song has a lyric in it as it goes out, as they go out, that I go, whoa, that's kind of crazy.
	If you're willing to work with me and fight for me and knock on some doors with me and make some phone calls with me, if you vote in November, we will win here in Clark County.
	We will win Nevada.
	We will win this election.
	We will finish what we started and you and I together will remind the world why we are the greatest nation on earth.
	God bless you.
	and God bless the United States of America.
	Thank you.
	I'm not going to complain about your production, so I'll just sit through another 15 seconds of this.
	I'm not going to complain about your production, but I'm not going to complain about your production, but I'm not going to complain about your production, Okay.
	So I have no idea what was...
	I've been knocking on the door that holds the throne?
	What Springsteen song is that?
	I have no idea.
	But he's been knocking on the door that holds the throne.
	Wow.
	Did anybody find this a little peculiar?
	Nah, that's cool.
	What is the name of that song?
	Type in the lyric into Google and you'll probably find the song.
	Well, no, because you find knocking on...
	Oh, here it is.
	We take care of our own...
	We take care of our own is the song.
	I don't even know this song.
	I've been knocking on the door that holds the throne.
	I've been looking for the map that leads me home.
	I've been stumbling on good hearts turned to stone.
	The road of good intentions has gone dry as bone.
	Wow.
	Hold on.
	Okay.
	We take care of our own.
	Wherever this flag's flown, we take care of our own.
	From Chicago to New Orleans.
	From the muscle to the bone.
	From the shotgun shack to the super dome.
	There ain't no help.
	The cavalry stayed home.
	Wow.
	All right.
	Fascinating.
	These songs are carefully selected.
	Yeah, and I don't really even know this song.
	I never heard it before.
	It sounds like a Bruce Springsteen song.
	No, it's Bruce Springsteen.
	I know, but most of them sound like a Bruce Springsteen song to me, except a few.
	But what album was this on?
	We Take Care of Our Own Springsteen.
	I don't know what album this was.
	And I'm not like a huge super duper.
	Is this new?
	I think maybe it was just written for Obama.
	They should call it King Obama.
	I think this is...
	Yeah, this is new, man.
	Wow.
	I didn't even realize that.
	Yeah, I think this is new.
	Came out this year, at least.
	Hmm.
	Interesting.
	Wait.
	Oh.
	Well, there you go.
	Groovy.
	Thanks.
	Anyway, I'm glad I cheered you up.
	There's a little news that wasn't reported much here.
	Play the Rand Paul on Pakistan clip.
	And now for all the details.
	A top U.S. senator has sought an early vote on his bill seeking to freeze all aid to Islamabad till the release of Shaquille Afridi, jailed for helping the CIA track down al-Qaeda supremo last year.
	The move comes amid reports that Pakistan considers the U.S. its worst enemy and maintains relations just to extract billions in aid.
	Senator Rand Paul said the US should not give assistance to Pakistan, whose government is torturing the person who helped in the killing of Osama bin Laden.
	The U.S. government currently gives Pakistan more than $2.1 billion annually in foreign aid, and the Obama administration is an additional $1.2 billion.
	No foreign government as blatantly defiant of American priorities as Pakistan should benefit from billions upon billions of American taxpayer dollars.
	It is time for that practice to come to an end, Senator Paul said in a letter to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.
	I'm not liking Rand Paul.
	I really don't care to hear anything about him anymore.
	I'm not going to say that you're making a mistake there.
	I'm finding the guy to be kind of douchey.
	Yeah.
	By the way, I'm so slow, I finally caught up with the chat room.
	The new Bruce Springsteen song is titled, We Take Care of Our Drone, apparently.
	Ha ha ha!
	And I think Jeff Smith should be paying attention because there's a song there.
	We take care of our drone.
	That's what we need to be playing at the end of every single Obama speech.
	We take care of our drone, everybody.
	Yeah, Rand Paul's kind of douchey.
	I kept one here at the end.
	You guys were coming up on our fifth anniversary.
	Do you recall one of the things we were talking about in 2008 when we started?
	Do you remember the Isle of Jersey and we talked about that back in 2008 and all the weird stuff that was going on up there?
	Vaguely.
	So Jersey, of course, is a huge tax haven.
	By some speculations, maybe $2 trillion worth of money stored away there.
	It's kind of weird.
	It's kind of run by the UK, but it's not.
	But it's not.
	Yeah, it's one of these weird protectorates.
	It's like Gibraltar.
	Right.
	And there was a big scandal because there's an orphanage and they found kid bones.
	Oh, yeah, there was some sort of perversion going on there.
	Right.
	And this is really what started me off with that whole thing in the Netherlands where they burned down the station and everything.
	You know, I started catching on to all these stories about about what's going on with the elites and child abuse, severe child abuse.
	And so everyone who was investigating this on the Isle of Jersey, you know, the police commissioner that, you know, they got arrested, thrown in jail for all kinds of weird stuff.
	People were removed.
	People got disappeared.
	And we have member Dutroux.
	Yeah, no, I do remember Dutroux because I actually looked up all that stuff on the internet.
	the internet and started reading it.
	Then we stopped talking about it because it's so gruesome.
	So Dutroux was also up there with his, you know, he sailed a boat up there.
	And this kind of fits into the whole elites and child abuse, which, you know, I see quite a large correlation there.
	So there's a reporter, Leah McGrath Goodman.
	And she...
	Well, what was interesting about her is that she is kind of opening up about what happened to her in relation to her investigation of this.
	And she's getting a little bit of traction.
	She was on Max Keiser because, of course...
	Jersey is an interesting island when it comes to money, and Max Keiser and the Max Keiser Report on Russia Today deals with a lot of that.
	And I would like to play this two-minute clip of her explaining exactly what she found out, what happened, and what she thinks is going on, and why she's been banned from even entering the UK now.
	And I'd like to play that kind of as a callback.
	From entering the UK? Yes, she's been banned from entering the UK. Wow.
	Because she was investigating what was happening on the Isle of Jersey.
	And this will just get you started and take along with that that Dutroux's wife, who was also incarcerated, she was just recently let out because, you know, I guess they had like life sentences or whatever.
	She was let out of jail because for good behavior she can go live in a convent or some bull crap like that.
	You just have to bear in mind that when elites run the show, that they kind of take care of their own and, well, draw your own conclusions.
	But this is kind of a fifth anniversary special look back at stuff we were talking about then, coming around full circle in its own little mini-cycle.
	Right, now let's talk about the story itself.
	Basically, the story that you're covering, sex crimes in Jersey, correct?
	Can you talk a little bit about this?
	Yeah, probably to be more accurate, Jersey has a really polished international reputation as a tax haven, but internally it has a lot of political problems ever since.
	Scandals involving an orphanage in 2008 where it seems that for decades children were allegedly tortured, raped, murdered.
	And there were many victims who are still alive who can tell their stories very clearly.
	They're being completely ignored.
	And my feeling is that it does need to be investigated more thoroughly and they need to be able to speak their truth.
	Everyone who has come near this particular scandal, to look into it, from the policemen to the health minister, have all been either driven off the island or thrown out of their jobs.
	It's been very bad.
	And it seems like there's a big effort to try to keep eyes away.
	Okay, so this is shaping up to be really quite a scandal.
	It has all of the underhanded and disgusting sex crimes of a Penn State football team story combined with the underhanded market rigging of LIBOR. Now, how high up does this cover-up go?
	And if there was somebody or an entity or an authority in place to stop the crimes, both the child abuse and the financial abuse, who would be that entity?
	What's the jurisdiction there in Jersey?
	Well, Jersey is really interesting.
	It's almost like a special purpose vehicle of the Crown.
	So the Crown can be more or less as associated as it wants to be with Jersey or as not.
	So effectively, the Queen could step in, but of course just really doesn't ever do that.
	And so Jersey runs itself more or less.
	That said, the head of the police, all of the police in Jersey, sort of the diplomatic head of police, he was told while he was investigating this orphanage by those running the government that the chief minister in particular said, you don't understand this could bring the entire British government down.
	So I assume it goes very high and that there are strong reasons why they don't want people looking into it.
	But again, until I'm allowed back into the UK to investigate it, I'm not going to know and the world isn't going to really know whatever happened to these poor children.
	The whole UK government could come down.
	Hell yeah.
	Well, that's not going to happen.
	No.
	And it was nice knowing you, Leah McGrath Goodman.
	Max Keiser's the worst interviewer.
	Yeah.
	Sounds like, what, does he have his head in a bucket when he's talking?
	Yeah, it's Russia Today, man.
	Oh, that's the worst.
	They're really not all that good.
	They're really not all that good.
	Yeah.
	Um, oh yeah, we'd be a little remiss if we didn't mention that the FISA wireless wiretap renewal bill has been signed, authorizing five more years of spying on American citizens.
	Hey, citizen.
	Because, of course, no one will mention that.
	We need to spy on American citizens.
	What?
	We need to spy on American citizens.
	They're so evil.
	Yeah, definitely.
	I totally need to spy on them.
	Are they watching Here Comes Honey Boo Boo or not?
	If you're not watching Honey Boo Boo, I want a patch.
	I want a yellow star patch that says populist.
	That's a good one.
	Let's look into the patch business.
	There may be something to this idea.
	I think there's something there.
	Stencils on the ground and patch on the chest.
	I think that's where we need to be.
	Patches.
	And then the president also re-upped the...
	This was only in the federal register.
	He re-upped the...
	Special powers for the emergency signed initially on September 14, 2001, and we are still in a state of emergency, so all of the powers that the president has have been re-upped for another year.
	Well, that's a shocker.
	Yeah, and that's now 12 years running.
	And there's no press release.
	This just shows up in the Federal Register.
	Bad Chad there in Colorado has been monitoring the register for me, and he's always coming up with this crazy stuff.
	We need to do more looking at the Federal Register.
	Yeah, there's probably a lot of stuff being slipped by.
	Yeah, all the good stuff is in there, for sure.
	So on Sunday's show...
	Yes, which is 4-4-4...
	444.
	444.
	Which means...
	444.
	Hold on a second.
	We are...
	The best podcast in the universe!
	Episode 444.
	Dvorak.org.
	Slash N-A. Just trying to program their brain.
	Messaging, yes.
	I wasn't messaging anything.
	No, not here.
	Not here, no.
	So, um...
	Buskill Jr.
	came up probably with the best theory I've ever heard as to why Romney is not releasing his tax forms.
	Illegitimate children.
	And no one would ever...
	I mean, once you hear the theory...
	Do I get more guesses?
	Do I get more guesses?
	You can guess all you want.
	You're not going to get it.
	Okay, well...
	I'll give you two more guesses and then on Sunday we'll reveal the answer.
	Oh, you're not going to tell me now?
	No, because I want to save it to Sunday.
	Because nobody listens to the...
	We're so deep into the show people are going to miss this and it's actually a really good one.
	You know, I'm surprised how many people do listen to the end of the show.
	Yeah, I am too.
	Since the show is three hours.
	Only they listen to it five weeks after we've done it, which is always the unfortunate thing.
	Yeah, I just finished a show of 352.
	So it is not illegitimate children.
	Could it be...
	What else could it be?
	Something with his...
	He gave away money.
	Charitable donations that are weird?
	Or am I okay there?
	What do you think?
	You keep going.
	Try again.
	And the last one is, he has 15 dependents.
	Well, that could be two.
	Actually, all these could be possible.
	All right.
	Well, this is a big tease, John.
	This is a big tease.
	It's a big tease, finally.
	Huge, huge.
	We need to do more teasing.
	Yeah, we sure do.
	Okay, well, you know, who knows?
	We could be at war with...
	In every country that we've overthrown.
	In all of them.
	In all of them.
	We never know what can happen.
	We will keep our eyes peeled for you, of course, as always, as we like to do.
	And I'm sure there's some legislation.
	We're still waiting for President Obama's executive order on cybersecurity.
	That's been rumored to happen, which I thought the whole...
	You know, that whole GoDaddy thing was going to be used for it, but that turns out that was just bad routing.
	Yeah, they need something bigger.
	They need an actual hack.
	Oh, I wanted to ask you, John, did you see any of the iPhone 5 coverage?
	Yeah.
	Because I was watching, and then all of a sudden I heard that there was this car chase in L.A. where the guys were throwing money out the window.
	And you quickly turned to that.
	That was so much more entertaining.
	Did you see that?
	No.
	Oh, it was fantastic.
	Some guys robbed a Bank of America.
	And then they took off driving through the streets of L.A. with 18 cop cars chasing him.
	And they're throwing money out the window.
	And this is going on for an hour.
	And because this is live on TV, people are out on the corners going, cheering for them.
	Saying, throw me money, and then the guys would throw money out, and the human resources sheeple would walk right in front of the cop cars to grab the money that the bank robbers had thrown on the street.
	It was beautiful!
	Very well, there's a movie in this.
	Maybe it wasn't just a movie.
	It was better than any of that other stuff, that's for sure.
	Well, maybe the whole thing was orchestrated by Google.
	Distract people from the iPhone 5, which is a snooze, but okay.
	Yeah.
	Hey, coming to you from the capital of the Drone Star State, where we take care of our drone, it's Austin, Texas, here at Camp MoFo in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm still contemplating baking a cake with a fish in it, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda.
	Hey, shit.
	Redline for Iran's nuclear program.
	Benjamin Netanyahu.
	Benjamin Netanyahu.

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