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	I don't know.
	It doesn't make sense to me.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, June 14, 2012.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 417.
	This is No Agenda.
	Dodging the falling drones here at Camp MoFo in the capital of the Drone Star State.
	It's Austin Tejas in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where BART is down, welcome to public transportation.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crack Run and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	I think the guys are working on our streaming server.
	We got a new one.
	And I think they brought BART down in the process.
	That's what happened.
	And I want to start off by thanking Void Zero, Mr.
	Oil, Sir Gitmo Slave.
	There's like five guys working on stuff here.
	So, they're awesome.
	Thank you.
	I also want to thank Tice Browers.
	How do you pronounce his name?
	Yeah, Teisbrowers, that's right.
	Teisbrowers for providing the art that we use in the newsletter.
	And I like it so much I may make it either a letterhead or something like that.
	Oh, well then while we're on it, why don't I thank Brad Connell for the artwork for last week's episode, for the last episode on Sunday.
	I think you should.
	I have done so.
	Very good.
	So I'm reading the Twitter...
	The tweets?
	Yeah, because you just sent your tweet out, so I retweeted.
	So I looked at some of the people.
	I follow some crazy...
	I'm not as crazy as you with your Britney Spears.
	Hold on, hold on.
	I just want to thank DCN Charles.
	Debbie Gibson?
	No, it just says, I'm simply Debbie.
	And it's not even a person, I don't think.
	It's just someone who keeps putting out these little sayings.
	To be nice is to be good.
	It's so corny.
	It's like Facebook.
	It's horrible.
	It's like Facebook.
	It's what Facebook is.
	That's what people do all day on Facebook.
	Oh, well, this is, I guess, an analog of that.
	Whatever the case is, there's this thing that came up, and then I said, retweet it now and again.
	And maybe you know about this.
	I don't.
	It says, this is simply, I'm simply Debbie.
	A6 toxic people don't see that they are toxic.
	Even if you tell them, sometimes they aren't ready to see.
	What is an A6 toxic person?
	Is that A numeral 6 or A-S-I-X? No, no, A numeral 6.
	And here's another one.
	Alexis Darla.
	A6. No, they can't figure out another way.
	Voice of the old belief pain is too strong.
	Awareness is the key to let it go.
	Hmm.
	I don't know.
	I'm looking here.
	I consulted the book of knowledge.
	I see six types of toxic friends, how you can deal with them.
	I've never heard of this A6 thing.
	Hmm.
	I don't know.
	Maybe the chat room knows.
	I have no idea.
	I just found about...
	What was the thing?
	I was in Los Angeles visiting my daughter.
	Yes.
	How was that?
	Well, it was very nice, actually.
	I understand you went to a museum or two.
	How did you know?
	Oh, that's right.
	I know how you know.
	Yes, she took me to the Cleopatra exhibit.
	Oh, so that's why you really went.
	Yeah, that was it.
	It was actually quite cool, I have to say.
	I didn't realize that Cleopatra's empire is submerged.
	There was like a tidal wave and Heraklion and I guess parts of Alexandria.
	Global warming!
	Yeah, global warming 2,000 years ago.
	And so they've, you know, basically the thing consists of, it starts off with a movie, a little clip, and you see the divers bringing up all this stuff.
	I mean, I'm talking like statues that are 12 feet tall and pretty...
	Pretty outrageous stuff.
	So it was fun to see that.
	And she and I both kind of agree that despite what popular history may say, we think that Cleopatra was a dog.
	We don't think she was hot at all.
	She was homely.
	Well, you know, times change, tastes change.
	She probably would be homely by today's standards.
	It's quite possible, or who knows?
	Well, and, you know, they even have, what is it, they have coins, you know, gold and brass and copper coins, and Cleopatra's faces.
	Cleopatra 7, of course, is her full title.
	And, you know, she looks homely.
	And they even have a little sign.
	She didn't look just like Elizabeth Taylor?
	No, nor did she look like Lindsay Lohan.
	I think this is bogative.
	She wasn't hot.
	She was probably short, plump, and homely looking.
	With Coke bottle glasses or something.
	I don't know.
	Coke bottle glasses.
	Let's just change historical timelines.
	I'm telling you, Cleopatra was a dog.
	Percy Dove tonsils.
	Let's bring that in.
	So, the only thing that was just important for me, I just wanted to say, the only thing that was really important that I learned, because, you know, I was hanging out with her, with her friends, you know, literally, you know, taking the LA Metro with her, which I have to say, that thing rocks.
	Have you ever been on the LA Metro?
	I didn't even know there was such a thing.
	Oh, yeah.
	Is it a sub?
	Yeah, it's a Subway.
	And it's beautiful.
	It's clean.
	Is anybody on it?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	But it's not like...
	I mean, it gets crowded at rush hour, but not really super crowded.
	It's not all like, you know, ugly, sweaty, nasty people riding it.
	And the train stations are great.
	And you get a five...
	Where does it go?
	Oh, you can go almost anywhere.
	What?
	You can go all the way to...
	No, but that's Anaheim.
	That's not really Los Angeles.
	So you can go all the way to Santa Monica.
	You can go to Santa Monica?
	Sure, sure.
	Wait, this thing's underground?
	Yes, I had no idea.
	And you can go from Santa Monica to downtown LA? Even beyond.
	Now, she lives in Koreatown.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Right by the Wiltern Theater.
	And it's called the Metro?
	L.A. Metro.
	I should go to L.A. more often.
	Yeah, you should.
	And you should have gone when I was living there for two years and you never showed up.
	Oh, you know, I meant to.
	Well, let me just say that we went from her house in Koreatown to North Hollywood.
	And I was going to go check out the Mevio Studios at the W Hotel.
	And it took us ten minutes.
	I mean, if you were to drive that...
	Oh, no, driving in L.A. is the world's worst experience.
	Yeah, you don't want a car for any of that.
	Anyway, so while I was sitting, hanging out with the kids, you know, they're all in their early 20s.
	I said, you know...
	What's this old fart doing here with us?
	No, they love me, man.
	They listen to the show, by the way.
	They all listen.
	Oh, sure.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	But they're even more crackpotty than I am.
	Like, hey, man, have you seen Zeitgeist?
	Yeah, okay.
	Yeah, welcome.
	Zeit.
	I said, have you guys ever heard or do you know anyone who has done bath salts?
	Look at this.
	They got the blue line, the red line, the green line, the gold line, the purple line, the expo line.
	What's the expo line?
	The orange line, the silver line.
	Yeah.
	So are you listening to what I'm saying?
	Yeah.
	You asked if anybody did bath salts.
	Or if they knew anyone.
	And they unanimously said, we never heard of it.
	Don't know anyone who's done it.
	This sounds completely like it's full of bull crap.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	And these kids know.
	Believe me, they know.
	And you want to talk about Adderall or Vance or any of this other stuff?
	Yeah, Adderall's the one everybody knows about and it's all they do.
	But they've never heard of it.
	They've never heard of it.
	Don't know anyone who does it.
	We know people who do heroin.
	We know people who smoke crack.
	You know, people who pop pills, you know, coke, weed, bath salts.
	No, never heard of it.
	So that's...
	You know, I'm stunned by this.
	I really was.
	I really was surprised.
	It doesn't surprise me for some reason.
	So the whole thing is just totally, totally bogative.
	And I guess the whole thing really is just a promotion for World War Z. World War Z. Did you know that Mel Brooks Kidd is the guy who wrote that?
	And this is probably the reason it got green-lighted.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	No, I didn't know that.
	There you have it.
	That's the way Hollywood works.
	Can I just put everyone in a good mood for a second?
	Go ahead.
	If you wake up with the blues, trying to fill your day with news, there's one thing you must remember, no agenda in the morning.
	For a healthy, balanced news diet, try NoAgendaShow.com.
	Do Now with more fiber.
	So I have the clip of, at least so far as I'm concerned, the clip that kind of wraps it up.
	It just wraps up society.
	It's going to be a short show, ladies and gentlemen.
	It just wraps up there.
	I thought this clip, which was not explored much.
	I mean, people mocked this story and they said a couple of snide comments about it.
	But when you listen to this story in depth and you listen to everything that's said, it's just a short little snippet.
	You have to really wonder what is wrong with the leaders of this world today.
	You ready?
	Hit it.
	After a recent Sunday lunch, British Prime Minister David Cameron, realizing he left something behind at the pub.
	His eight-year-old daughter.
	He says he thought the child was with his wife.
	Presumably, so did the British security detail.
	When they discovered the mistake, they sped back to the bar, only to find little Nancy helping out the waitstaff.
	10 Downing Street says it was about a 15-minute absence.
	But it is particularly bad timing.
	Responsible parenting.
	The Secret Service that was his detail didn't even notice this?
	Where's the football?
	I don't know, man.
	I thought you had the football.
	I had the football.
	I mean, would anybody even vote for this guy?
	He brings his daughter, thinks he's got the daughter, apparently doesn't give a crap about her.
	So he's got her in tow, and then he just wanders off, yakking to one of his buddies with the Secret Service guys all plastered looking at hookers, I guess.
	And they leave the little girl at the bar for 15 minutes before they figure out what happened, and then he blames his wife?
	Of course.
	Oh, I thought she had the baby.
	Yeah, they're right.
	Well, yeah, what can I say?
	And nobody, none of the news media, nobody picks up on this.
	This is scandalous as far as I'm concerned.
	How can you leave your kid?
	Well, the reason why you never lost a kid is because you had him on a leash.
	Well, the work...
	The lease was, of course, I mean, the kids will run off, but we wouldn't leave.
	I mean, how could anybody leave a kid?
	It's unbelievable to me.
	And then the Secret Service, or whatever they call them, there's a different name, are just like, oh, well, you know, they're not paying any attention.
	No, that makes me feel secure.
	This is your government at work.
	Anyway, I just found this the most annoying clip I've heard for years.
	Yeah.
	Oh, you know.
	I don't know what to say other than, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Not surprised.
	As unsurprised as you were about bath salts, as unsurprised as I am about this.
	Yeah, well, I can see that.
	I lived in the UK. The family unit does not exist anymore.
	Parents don't know where their kids are for weeks on end.
	I'm not kidding you.
	Isn't he sleeping at Marty's house?
	I think so.
	I don't know.
	I don't care.
	They don't give a crap.
	No, they don't.
	I mean, I'm generalizing, but yeah, they really don't.
	Anyway, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, subs in the water, and feet in the air.
	And of course, all of our human resources in our chat room, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net.
	We do the program live twice a week.
	At 9 a.m.
	Gitmo Nation West Time, John in Silicon Valley, northern Silicon Valley, me in the capital of the Drone Star State.
	And of course, this is a podcast where most people listen to it.
	But it's good because the chat room always keeps us in tune and honest and fair and balanced and healthy.
	So I started to combine a couple things.
	I started to figure some stuff out.
	This week after, well let me just play, for those of you who have not heard it, here's a condensed version of some interesting news that took place in Gitmo Nation proper here, and of course we have dubbed this Drone Nation.
	On the eastern shore of Maryland, not...
	Iraq or Afghanistan or, like you said, even Iran, apparently right now the Coast Guard is cordoning off the area, establishing a security zone, and they are looking to try to sort of make a secure zone before they can get in there and take a look at the wreckage.
	But basically this drone was on a routine training flight when it just lost contact with its Navy operators on the ground.
	Now, I really found this to be disturbing.
	Two things.
	First of all, we know that whenever there's a problem, just say it was a training flight.
	It was a training flight.
	Oh, it was a training flight.
	Okay.
	But what we have talked about in recent episodes, it lost contact with the ground.
	Lost contact.
	This is part of the entire problem of this drone program.
	Now, if this happens over some desert somewhere, you know, it's just going to kill a bunch of women and children at a wedding, you know, so be it.
	But now it's crashing in America.
	And the big question I had was a couple of questions that I had was this was a Navy drone.
	Now, the Navy is typically responsible for what are they responsible for, John?
	The sea?
	The ocean?
	I've heard that.
	Yeah, that's what I think.
	Now, let me just give you some details here.
	This was an RQ4 Global Hawk, which has a wingspan of, I think, about 130 feet.
	This is a big thing.
	It flies very, very high.
	The same wingspan as the 727.
	Yeah, it flies 11 miles up.
	This thing is really...
	And this thing can...
	High altitude.
	It's got a big round jet engine in it.
	This thing can bolt.
	Its max speed is 497 miles an hour.
	So that's jet airliner speed.
	And they lose the thing.
	They lose contact with it.
	But what is the Navy doing with drones?
	Okay, sure, they have a...
	Test flight or whatever.
	That's, of course, total bull crap.
	So a couple things here.
	One, I have to reiterate that when you are a drone operator, when you are flying this from the ground, your decisions are going to be very different than when your own ass is on the line and you're sitting in that thing.
	Second...
	This is your thesis.
	Yes.
	Even if it's a millisecond delay, there's no way you can have the same situational awareness in a drone that you can have when you're actually up there flying it around.
	So I think the whole idea is dangerous.
	And by the way, millisecond is not going to be the lag time.
	No, it's going to be more.
	It's going to be more.
	Most of these are from satellite bounces, if I'm not mistaken.
	It's definitely going to be more.
	I've been reading about the Global Hawk.
	It actually does a lot of things autonomously.
	You can set the autopilot and walk away.
	It can land itself.
	It can take off by itself.
	And the autonomous mode is used quite a bit.
	But looking at the drone program, and with the knowledge that NATO has now acquired a number of these global hawks, remember these are supposed to fly at very, very high altitude.
	And the same model has been sold, incidentally, to the German government.
	Oh yeah, no, they're selling them to everybody.
	And I believe that this ties into the Law of the Sea Treaty.
	This is why the Navy has it.
	Because the Law of the Sea Treaty gives the United Nations rule, not only, we read the document, we read the Law of the Sea Treaty.
	It not only gives rule over the water, but all the way down to the seabed, which is what we've been focused on with minerals and oil, etc.
	But also the airspace above.
	Remember?
	We read that.
	It specifically states the airspace above.
	And I believe that the naval units around the world are now garnering up these drones.
	And they can fly for four days.
	They can fly for a long time without refueling.
	They can just slow her down, let her wander around, put it in autonomous mode.
	And the whole idea is when it's time to pull the trigger, when NATO is fully organized into the policemen of the world, the New World Order, that's when anyone who gets out of line, we just, oh, let me just program this drone, and he'll be there within 30 minutes and can drone you because they're just going to be circling over the skies all the time.
	This truly is Skynet.
	That's why the Navy is involved in this.
	Yeah, okay.
	Yeah, well, so I think the first thing to stop would be the Law of the Sea Treaty.
	This is like a long way to the obvious?
	No, I don't think it was that obvious.
	I think the Law of the Sea Treaty is more than just the water.
	I think it really is the airspace, and no one's really focusing on that because of the word sea.
	Yeah, well, I think there's some truth to that.
	Yeah, but now seeing that NATO is acquiring these things, this is really becoming quite an outrage.
	By the way, it takes 173 people to operate one global hawk.
	Well, it turns out the program has been discontinued and restarted.
	Actually, they sell them for like $30 million to $60 million, if I'm not mistaken.
	The actual cost is about $200 million, so they take a beating on each one.
	These things are just a laugh.
	They're no good.
	Well, I don't know if they're no good.
	They're no good for us.
	I mean, they're no good for the 17 Al-Qaeda fighters who were killed in Yemen.
	So we remember we had, what was it, 18 on the last episode?
	So I've updated killlist.curry.com to reflect the new number.
	So within a week, let me just check and see how many do we have in, I should do a running total actually.
	Within a week, we had 17, 18, so yeah, there you go, 35 people killed in a week by U.S. drones.
	Right on.
	Yeah, that's all we know of.
	Yeah, well, that's the ones that have been reported.
	Yeah, that's great.
	This is fantastic.
	We could be flying them over East Germany, for all you know.
	Well, they're definitely flying over the U.S., that's clear, and you can call it a training mission or whatever.
	Why doesn't the Navy train over the sea where they belong?
	Now they're training over Maryland.
	Yeah, really.
	They're outfitted with some fantastic gear.
	It's funny, you know, I see the...
	Especially the lens on those cameras is going to be something to grab.
	Yeah, but that thing was no good.
	I mean, I was tweeting, hey, go and get the cameras and...
	Stomp on the transmitters, but no, there was nothing left of that thing.
	No, it just blew up the smithereens.
	I was looking at the Obama accomplishments for the past year, 2011-2012, that is now on, you know, it's kind of like the Obama campaign.
	Accomplish.curry.com, no?
	No, not accomplishments, but I could do that if you want.
	So he puts here, like, Defense of Marriage Act declared unconstitutional.
	U.S. forces kill Osama bin Laden.
	Six senior al-Qaeda figures killed in U.S. airstrike.
	Al-Qaeda commander Ilyas Kashmiri killed in U.S. predator strike.
	East Africa, I mean, half the list is people he's killed.
	That's what's killing people.
	That's his accomplishment.
	It's like, just kill, kill, kill.
	Kill, kill, kill.
	Well, you read the Ulsterman report where they're worried sick, supposedly, in the White House, how he's, like, giggling and jumping for joy and watching the kill movies over and over, like porn.
	Yeah, it's his, like, snuff movies.
	Meanwhile, and I was worried about this, we mentioned it, Homeland Security has so many drones, they don't even have enough people to fly them.
	Well, there you go.
	There's your backup plan.
	They've ordered too many drones.
	And, according to...
	Ordered too many drones.
	That's what the report says.
	They get so much money.
	They're just, you know, no wonder the economy's in the tank.
	They're just throwing...
	And people say, well, you know, it's all needed.
	But they're throwing...
	The money that is being squandered by this government is astonishing.
	According to the Inspector General who created this report, the Customs and Border Patrol, which of course reports directly to the Department of Homeland Security, at the behest of the State Department, has held discussions with another country on the use of unmanned aircraft.
	So this truly is of global proportions.
	But from a pilot perspective, it's all not good today.
	You know, you just, you know, it's like, oh, I lost contact with it.
	Oh, well.
	It's all right.
	Hey, want a cup of coffee?
	Yeah, good, man.
	I'll take a cup of coffee.
	That's exactly what's going on.
	One of those things is going to crash into a private aircraft, perhaps a jetliner, and kill a lot of people, and that's going to be a very interesting series of congressional hearings after that.
	Yeah, and boy, were there some congressional hearings this week.
	There were some good ones.
	I hope you got some clips because I was pulling my stuff from all over the place.
	Yeah, well we have Holder who was in for Fast and Furious.
	I'm going to hold that for a little bit because that's...
	Wasn't that last week?
	No, he's back!
	Well, it was...
	Sure, it's not just a rerun of the...
	Because he's been back four times, and I don't know if he's back...
	Nine times.
	He's been back nine times.
	Nine times.
	He's still not saying anything.
	Until they throw the contempt at him, he's not going to do anything.
	Well, did you...
	So, Congressman Cornyn asked for his resignation.
	Oh, I didn't get that.
	Let me play that later because it's a little bit long.
	Because Cornyn just rattles down the whole list of what a scumbag Holder is and then asks for his resignation.
	Did Holder resign?
	No, of course not.
	Come on.
	What's the point?
	But Joe Lieberman.
	Joe Lieberman.
	I had like a 15-minute stand-up one-man show about the need to pass the cyber bill in the Senate.
	And, of course, I'm referring to the Cybersecurity Act of 2012, S2105, which we have reviewed here on this show.
	And he cites a letter written to the President and to Congress as a whole, signed by Clapper, Panetta, Lucy Napolitano, and who am I missing in this lineup?
	Then we have one more.
	I don't know.
	Panetta.
	Distal.
	Oh, I'm sure.
	Just anyone.
	They all signed it.
	And he pulls out an interesting card in his recollection of this letter.
	I want to read from this letter from these national security leaders because it really sums up where we are.
	And I quote now, given the time left in this legislative session...
	In the upcoming election this fall, we are concerned that the window of opportunity to pass legislation that is, in our view, critically necessary to protect our national and economic security is quickly disappearing.
	And these, in the letter, they went on to say, and I quote again, We, the signers of the letter, carry the burden of knowing, along with a lot of the rest of us, that 9-11 might have been averted with the intelligence that existed at the time.
	We do not want to be in the same position again when cyber 9-11 hits.
	It is not a question of whether this will happen, it is a question of when.
	Cyber 9-11, everybody!
	How dare this guy?
	This was a big theme with a lot of the stuff I picked up on.
	Cyber 9-11.
	And his whole soliloquy is based upon a Washington Post article that About some kid who hacked into a water plant and then, you know, didn't do anything malicious but posted screenshots of him getting into it.
	And so he kind of summarizes the danger.
	Listen to all the things that are going to get hacked and, of course, the reason why we have to pass this onerous legislation which hands over sharing legislation to any company to basically rat you out to the government no matter what you're doing.
	It's preferable.
	And it is preferable in large part because it addresses the need to secure our nation's critical cyber infrastructure.
	Oh, critical cyber infrastructure!
	And by the way, everything is cyber.
	Cyber, cyber, cyber, cyber.
	Which is a bullcrap description.
	What do you think our nation's critical infrastructure is, John?
	Can you name three pieces of infrastructure that are critical?
	The Verizon backbone?
	Yeah.
	Good, I'll take that one, yes.
	The Google network?
	Yes, yeah.
	And...
	I would say there's probably another couple backbones I could mention.
	Let's say the Sprint backbone is a good one.
	None of those are on Lieberman's list, by the way.
	Oh, no, no.
	Wait a minute.
	Stop.
	Don't go on.
	These backbones, which would be the real critical parts of the network, you know, I would even add...
	Okay, I know what it is then.
	He's got Mae West...
	May East, the big giant nodes that communicate our networks.
	No, no, that's got to be on there because this would be what you would say if you had any idea about what you're talking about.
	You would have to put those on.
	All of them are wrong.
	Everything you're saying is wrong.
	Wrong, wrong, wrong.
	That is the computers that control the systems that if commandeered, attacked, or intruded upon could allow an attacker to open and close key valves and switches in pipelines for gas and oil in refineries, in factories, in or intruded upon could allow an attacker to open and close key valves and switches in pipelines for gas and oil in refineries, in factories, in water and
	Pipelines and water and electricity and banks and important stuff.
	you This guy's a douche.
	He's an idiot.
	I never liked that guy.
	But playing the 9-11 card, I think, is somewhat...
	I like Cyber 9-11.
	That could be a show title.
	It could be a title, yeah.
	Cyber 9-11!
	I think it's something very similar.
	Play the What Are the Threats Against America clip.
	Okay...
	About how we do this.
	The last thing I want to do is to make the mistakes of the past.
	We still have to have a military that protects us against a lot of threats that are out there.
	So this is Panetta on 60 Minutes discussing the threats against America.
	And there's also a clip, I thought I had it, maybe I don't, of Susan Collins going on and on about Cyber 9-11.
	Oh yeah, we know she's an idiot.
	We already discussed her.
	Yeah, no, she is a total idiot.
	But this guy, Panetta, who's a real character in a lot of different ways, he outlines what he says is gold.
	These are the real threats against America.
	And you walk away from these threats, you go...
	None of these are threats.
	Okay, here we go.
	We're out there.
	Terrorism.
	Iran.
	North Korea.
	Nuclear proliferation.
	Problem of cyber attacks.
	Rising powers like China.
	Rising powers.
	Rising suns.
	Which one of those is a threat?
	None of them.
	Are they threatening us?
	Are we scared to death shaking in our boots over here in the United States of North Korea?
	Yeah.
	Because North Korea is going to attack?
	You remember that clip?
	In fact, I used it on the clip show last Christmas where people just forget so soon about these things.
	They're putting out a special alert, a red alert.
	They're going to surround the island of Hawaii because the North Koreans may be bombing it.
	Remember that?
	Yeah.
	They were going to fire a missile and blow up Hawaii.
	You know, the simple thing to do is one executive order from the president that says, if you are running a water plant, an electric plant, or a bank, you are hereby ordered not to connect your crap to the internet.
	Done.
	That's all you need to do.
	Yeah.
	It's true.
	The banks should be running on their own private networks if they need to be on a network.
	Then they should be isolated.
	And all the switching and all the rest of the stuff that goes on at a power plant.
	Oh, well wait a minute.
	Let me get this straight.
	It's possible that we've hooked some of these operations to the internet because we don't want to pay five bucks an hour to somebody to be there.
	We want to do it from our home.
	We want to pay a guy $20 to turn the switches on and off from his house instead of $5 for some guy to be there turning the switch on and off.
	I mean, this is ludicrous.
	And the more I think about how idiotic these people are, the more I'm thinking that the whole Stuxnet flame thing is bullcrap.
	I don't think this government could create anything good.
	Have you actually seen...
	Flamer.
	Flamer.
	Have you actually seen the code on either of these?
	Have you ever seen it?
	Or is this just something that exists and people claim they've seen it?
	Well, Kaspersky's, the boys at Kaspersky have gone over the code with the fine-toothed code.
	What's their credibility?
	I believe them.
	Yeah, what's their credibility?
	I think they're a credible operation.
	It's Russian, but, you know, or Ukrainian.
	I can't remember now.
	But they've been around for a while.
	They seem trustworthy.
	I would trust them, yes.
	Well, the guys at McAfee, I mean, this is such a bonanza, and that's why this is happening.
	Leading cyber experts of Symantec and McAfee have warned of a shortage of talented computer security experts in the United States, making it difficult to protect corporate and government networks at a time when attacks are on the rise.
	So, sell out, kids!
	Now that you have nothing but $100,000 in debt, and you spend all your time in college smoking dope and hacking around, you got a gig!
	Yeah, you'll never pay that debt off.
	Yeah, just go work for the...
	No, if you go work for the feds, then you get all kinds of bennies on your debt.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, this is good.
	This is very, very good.
	I'm telling you.
	It's like working for Stalin.
	Yeah, and your point would be?
	Yeah, no point.
	So I, yeah, no, it's bad.
	It's really bad.
	So this Lieberman is, I don't know, man.
	I'm sure they're going to pass this stupid, stupid bill, and that allows corporations to, if they see something, to say something without any redress or any penalties.
	Oh man, I don't like what this guy is doing.
	Let's report him to the feds.
	Just onerous and you get people knocking on your door and you get letters and hassle and it's just...
	Yeah.
	Something like that.
	So for the big book show I interviewed a professor from I think Maryland.
	Ron Adner.
	You ever hear of this guy?
	So he wrote a book called The Wide Lens.
	And he's a professor of business and strategy or something like that.
	And it's an interesting book because he talks about how, of course, he has a system, right?
	A strategy so companies don't make huge mistakes.
	And he talks about the huge run-flat fiasco that Michelin had.
	He talks about how Nokia, of course, were the first to actually implement a 3G phone.
	And, well, look at where they are today.
	They're about to fire another 10,000 people.
	The company's dead.
	Well, dead.
	Not really dead.
	But I don't think it's survivable for them as a company.
	Look at the first MP3 players that all failed and then Apple came in.
	And, you know, so at the end of this interview, which I haven't posted yet, I said, so tell me about news.
	You know, we all kind of know the mistakes that the newspapers and television and radio, what they made.
	So what do you see as the future of news if you apply your strategy?
	He said, well, first of all, there's always going to be news.
	He says, but people will only pay for the guarantee that their news is not compromised.
	Right?
	And I found that to be such a, from a professor, I found that to be a very great comment.
	And on the heels of that, I was like, I didn't tell him, but I was like, that's exactly our model.
	We provide you with a guarantee that we're not compromised because we don't have any advertisements, which is where the compromise takes place.
	Yeah, that's exactly it.
	And I think we are now literally the future of news.
	I mean, we should have a guarantee sticker.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	Guaranteed no compromise.
	Well, there's no reason to compromise because there's not...
	You compromise when there's temptation or where there's a motive.
	You need a motive to compromise.
	Most people don't like to compromise.
	They'll never compromise unless they have a motive.
	Like, say, you've got this hot woman you're dating and you hate the opera.
	Right.
	And she wants to go to the opera.
	I love the opera now.
	Yeah, that's a compromise though.
	You hate the opera, but you'll go to the opera because you've got this woman and you think that you're going to get something out of it.
	So that's a compromise.
	In other words, there's a benefit in all compromising situations.
	It's called a compromising situation.
	We don't have any benefit to compromise.
	None whatsoever.
	So we don't.
	Yeah.
	And it's a guarantee.
	And I have no idea.
	It is a guarantee.
	Yeah.
	Nobody's...
	But then again, what happens if Monsanto...
	We've said this before.
	Monsanto wanted to sponsor this show for $5 million.
	No, I'm so compromised, I'm gone on a heartbeat.
	Yeah.
	Let me just...
	Adam at Curry.com.
	Give me a call, boys.
	Can you imagine us going like, this is great.
	Hey man, I just ate some Monsanto corn.
	It was so tasty.
	Was it?
	Did you put a lot of Monsanto butter on it?
	Yeah, I smeared some high fructose corn syrup all over it.
	It was awesome.
	No, so that's not how we roll.
	As it were.
	No, the way this works is pure value for value, and we have a couple of people who have donated in larger amounts today, which makes them executive producer and or associate executive producers, which works very much the way Hollywood does.
	It's an actual credit.
	You put up the money, you get a credit, and that means that the webcam girls will love you.
	They will.
	Especially if you flash the dough.
	Yeah.
	So we have a funny situation today.
	It was an average Thursday, actually.
	But we had one executive producer and then a slew of associates.
	I've never seen this unbalanced, so unbalanced ever.
	So let's go, or one executive producer.
	And he didn't even come in through PayPal.
	He sent a check.
	So it could have been for the last show.
	Yeah.
	But it's our friend Greg Samunich in West Chicago.
	Oh, cool.
	$418.
	My wife, Dame Kathy Samunich, got me to listen to the No Agenda about two years ago, and her contributions thus far have always been from our account.
	Now I want my own credit.
	I want you to know how much I appreciate how you both deconstruct the lamestream media.
	I can't even listen to any of it anymore for 30 seconds without disgust.
	And my week and weekend is not complete until I finish both No Agenda shows.
	I'm happy to produce 417 or 418, depending on when you receive this.
	417, I guess it did come in right away.
	Please keep up the outstanding work, because this is the best podcast in the universe.
	And as my darling wife before me, I ask for karma for the U.S. Constitution, as it needs it badly.
	Beautiful.
	Absolutely beautiful.
	You've got karma.
	I think we'll need to heap on some more of that karma to keep that thing going, though.
	Hello?
	Hello?
	Oh, okay.
	Hold on a second.
	Do you want to do...
	Okay, we'll do it for the next show.
	JC came in with it because there's a note that came in and it's just like, wait a minute, did anybody address this?
	And then I'm not sure, so it looks like we'll talk about it after the donation.
	You are making no sense.
	Yeah, obviously.
	Dr.
	Spock in Pearl Land, Texas is making sense, though.
	I guess I jumped to him.
	Let me go back.
	No, no.
	I have LFVW in Key Largo, Florida, $250.
	Bill and no note.
	Bill Hoagie.
	Hoagie?
	Hoagie.
	I'd say Hoagie.
	Hoagie?
	H-A-U-G-H-E-E in Niles, Michigan.
	There's a lot of Niles's all over the place.
	$250.
	Time to move from boner to donor.
	Please de-douche me.
	You've been de-douched.
	He says we've got a great show and he's got to turn this donation thing around.
	Thank you.
	Dr.
	Spock, Pearl in Texas, 250.
	Do not read my name on the air.
	No, he wants to be called Dr.
	Spock.
	It's Dr.
	Spock, a.k.a.
	Dr.
	Anonymous, a.k.a.
	That Boy B, a.k.a.
	Anyway, it goes on.
	Here from Houston.
	Just up the road, John.
	Just up the road.
	You've never been to Houston.
	I have been to Houston several times.
	Why?
	I just wanted to donate to show my appreciation for the show.
	I have a Texas story later in the show, by the way.
	I'd like to reflect for the record that this donation note is being written while I'm high on a toxic combination of bath salts, crack, and PHP. PCP. I'm not doing the voice because this is bull crap.
	My eventual goal would be to become the most fucked up knight in no agenda history.
	I just hope that I can survive the journey.
	Now that John has assumed the appropriate voice, no I haven't, to reflect my level of inebriation is way, way too well written.
	I just wanted to state that the show is effing awesome.
	Adam has done an excellent job dissecting and analyzing the disinformation that is presented to us on a daily basis by the MFing, lamestream media.
	He's a very profane person.
	Well, that's what bath salts will do to you, man.
	Also, John's witty rejoinders also provide the show with many hilarious segments.
	That's your contribution right there.
	Witty rejoinders.
	You get no respect.
	Same money.
	Those are just a few of the positive ways this show has changed my life.
	This is one of your fans.
	I can tell through all the cursing.
	However, not all is so rosy around these parts, Houston, due to the vividness and clarity of the harsh realities your show presents to this No Agenda Nation on a bi-weekly basis.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	I didn't ask for karma or anything.
	That's odd.
	Okay.
	Borislav Marinov.
	Sir Borislav to you.
	Aliso Viejo, California.
	20850.
	I'm still expecting a human resource.
	Please send good karma to him, his mother and his brothers.
	P.S. I know I've contributed for several knighthoods, but I'm trying to get all three of them to become knights at the same time.
	So bear with me slash us for a little bit longer.
	I'm not so embarrassed.
	And then he says P.P.S. $208.50 equals $4.17 divided by two.
	Oh, well then I'll give you a $4.17 club member credit while you're at it.
	Good one.
	You've got Carmen.
	I like that.
	Very cool.
	Justin Seitz, Sir Justin Seitz in Pittsburgh, 20777.
	Want to give you guys some love since the Ron Paul doesn't need money anymore.
	We'd love Carmen to help me master the stock market to let me live the American dream a little bit easier.
	We'd love any recommendations from John on books.
	Read Horowitz's book.
	He's got a couple of them.
	To read people, to listen to things, to subscribe to.
	Currently use Investor's Business Daily, which is not bad.
	The And Horowitz likes that.
	Finally, if the market's short, if my market's short through the active bear ETF, I will send you more love.
	Well, good luck, and let me give you some karma.
	I have no idea what you're talking about.
	You've got karma.
	He bought an exchange-traded fund that is a short fund, so you buy it.
	It's actually a cool way for people who really want to short the market and they have their money in a 401k or something where you can't short your 401k, but you can go long on one of these short funds.
	It's just a way to buy it.
	It's boring.
	It's very boring, and you don't do it.
	You just yap about it.
	You're not an investor.
	No, I'm away.
	I wrote one of my columns in Market Watch, stay out of the market.
	I listen to your Dvorak Horowitz show when you guys talk about Crocs and mattresses and like, what is this show all about?
	Horowitz is genius when it comes to spotting these weird trends.
	Gene Naftuliev.
	Oh yeah, another familiar name.
	I think it's Neftuliam, right?
	Yeah, Neftuliam.
	In Frisco, Texas!
	Right down the road.
	Yeah, that is down the road.
	20202 Karma Shmarma.
	I forgot to ask for karma last time I donated, and I got it anyway.
	I got a new COO position shortly after the last donation.
	Here's another donation, as well as a PR mention.
	I am pointing noagenda.in to you guys to help direct some of my offshore resources in India.
	Oh.
	In India to your show.
	This means nobody will ever click on that.
	No, no, no.
	Are you kidding me?
	Oh, no.
	They'll click on it so they can get the show for free.
	Yeah.
	Anyway.
	So let's just give them another karma just in case.
	You've got karma.
	Stephen Vanderhoof.
	Vonderhaven.
	Vonderhaven.
	Vonderhaven, that's right.
	Belhaven, North Carolina.
	I wonder what a Dutch thinks of North Carolina.
	You know, North Carolina is one of the prettiest, most interesting states in the United States.
	Do you really lie awake at night thinking, I wonder what the Dutch think of North Carolina?
	I do.
	I wonder what the Dutch think.
	$200.07.
	In the morning, I wanted to let you all know why I've been hesitant about donating for the past few months.
	I've appeared I've received my bad karma.
	Or I receive bad karma.
	Every time I donated the show, at least within a week or two, I would hit a deer.
	This is good news!
	Drive a different car.
	Good eating here.
	Yeah, these are rats with hooves.
	What's your problem?
	I commute about 70 miles per day to work, and it appeared that I would be running a gauntlet every time.
	So now I'm asking for some good karma this time, as I know that if I hit one more deer, that will be the end of my ride.
	I'll send pictures in a separate email.
	I am in support of you guys possibly looking at taking a break.
	Once it's off the air.
	I do believe you all deserve a break.
	It might be painful for the listeners, but they need to realize that you're a human as well.
	I hope Adam and Miss Mickey have a fantastic wedding and a long-lasting marriage together.
	Well, that's very nice, but let me just get this right.
	Karma doesn't work.
	If it happens again, you'll never hear from me again.
	And go away, get off the air.
	Is that basically the message?
	Yes, that's one of your Dutch friends who moved to North Carolina.
	All right, let's hit it with some karma.
	Good karma!
	You've got karma.
	And finally, on the long list of associated producers here, John Catalano in House Springs, Maryland, $200.
	Please give me Take Your Med Slave Jingle and get me the fuck out of this hellhole that is Singapore karma.
	John, formerly from Tokyo.
	I'm finally glad to see somebody call Singapore for what it is, which is, you know, it's a fascist state.
	It's real clean, very clean and safe.
	It's a good place to vacation.
	It's a good place to take the family.
	Very entertaining.
	But it's, to live there, I don't know.
	Just take your medicine.
	Just take your medicine.
	And that is our list of producer...
	No, he did the karma at the end of that.
	No, he didn't ask.
	He just said...
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	He just said, take your meds.
	Get me out of the whole Singapore karma.
	Oh, well, I'm so sorry.
	You've got karma.
	Two jobs on the way.
	Right.
	Thank you all so much for supporting the program in our Value for Value model.
	We bring you great news and analysis, uncompromised.
	It's guaranteed.
	PR mentions today, the den man, you know the den man.
	The Den Man?
	The Den Man, yeah.
	He's one of our...
	Oh, The Den Man.
	The Den Man.
	Oh, yeah.
	He has created an archive.
	Apparently, even at NoGenderNation.com, we've had an issue finding every single MP3 file of all shows ever done.
	And he has created it.
	And it's now available at allshows.nashownotes.com.
	Allshows.nashownotes.com.
	It's real easy.
	You can just go to that, and he's maintaining that list, so we thank him for that.
	That's fantastic.
	I've also posted, there's this new free, this is one guy who's doing some guy in Gitmo Nation douche land.
	Bitlove.org, where you essentially input your RSS feed, and then up pops a list of torrents.
	So he torrentizes every single one of the shows, and there's a link in the show notes for that as well, on bitlove.org, which is kind of cool to have an automatic torrent service.
	reminder the no agenda news app at nanewsapp.com available for your iPhone and iPad if you want to get all the show notes and the no agenda news network dot com on one of these iOS devices then that is something you need to take a look at and that is pretty much all the PR we have except of course Brad Connell who I already thanked at the beginning of the show for creating the art on the last episode no agenda art generator dot com is where you can help us out there
	And you can always continue to support the work we're doing here by going to dvorak.org.
	Of course, you can propagate our formula if you wish.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Come on, kids, say it like you mean it.
	So, uh...
	Shut up, slave!
	What is this, by the way, that you're playing?
	Shut up, slave!
	Dvorak, you need to shut up!
	Oh, I know what you're doing.
	You're taking your slide whistle synthesizer, whatever you call it, and you're now running your voice into it.
	Take your medicine, Dvorak!
	Isn't that awesome?
	You can't hear it.
	What are you saying?
	It's all grumbles.
	You need to turn it down.
	You've got to screw with the horizontal and turn up the vertical on that thing.
	All right, let me try it this way.
	No, it just sounds muddy.
	It's too muddy.
	I think it's too muddy for Skype, but it sounds pretty...
	Well, I think the chat room hears it.
	They're happy with it.
	They're not happy.
	The chat room can't be happy with anything.
	It's a chat room.
	It's a chat room.
	We're happy here in the chat room.
	What other good things should we say?
	Joan Rivers had an interesting little ditty the other day.
	I don't know if you caught this.
	Joan Rivers...
	She was on Letterman.
	No, this was on CNN where she was interviewed.
	I didn't see her on Letterman.
	She's got a book or something out.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Her book is I Hate Everyone, Including Myself.
	And I used to go on her show back in the MTV early New York days.
	She had the Joan Rivers show on, I think it must have been Fox, the local Fox show.
	A delightful woman, I have to say.
	Very, very sweet.
	Very charming.
	Of course, quite a foul mouth on her.
	But she is the first person I think I've heard in mainstream, and she can afford to do this just for who she is and how she...
	She's like the honey badger.
	She really does not give a shit.
	And this is what she said about the scampaign known as the presidential reality show.
	If you look at the match between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney, what do you think?
	Both idiots.
	How dare you spend two years campaigning?
	This country's in trouble.
	They should do what England does.
	Six weeks to find out what everyone thinks before they vote for the Parliament.
	That makes sense.
	Two years?
	First of all, the president, get into the White House and do your goddamn duty.
	And Mitt Romney, two years, you all hate each other, and now they're all going to come together and say, but we really love him.
	I find it disgusting.
	The money spent?
	The money spent?
	Outrageous.
	Obama went to a dinner party for Democrats $40,000 a pledge.
	You're not Democrats.
	You're not Democrats.
	You're very strong Republicans.
	I love her.
	It was great.
	Well, she's stating the obvious as far as we're concerned.
	Well, of course, but this is what you hear.
	It's so rare that you hear it.
	But, of course, she's a funny lady.
	She's funny.
	She's just doing rivers of a body.
	Don't worry about her.
	She's just a little bit kooky.
	That's all.
	Yeah.
	Well, she doesn't sound too funny, I'll tell you that.
	Nah, she's adorable.
	Now, there was some code...
	That I caught.
	And it was surprising to me.
	In light of, you know, because of course we have these leaks, you know, this is still ongoing.
	The leaks of the cyber warfare, Vairai, released and propagated by our current president.
	The expansion of the drone program, again, 35 years.
	Human beings, although in his eyes probably just human resources, annihilated by drones just this week alone.
	We're just going to start counting from that.
	We're just going to keep track of it.
	We need the back body count, too.
	That's going to be hard.
	It's around.
	I can find it.
	Yeah.
	And so now we have a lot of people are very angry about this book and the New York Times article.
	And, of course, I think it's pretty much decided we're going to discredit Obama.
	Get him out.
	I don't care how many parties Sarah Jessica Parker and what's the douche from Vogue magazine, Anna Wintour.
	Anna Wintour, who talks with a British accent for some unknown reason.
	I poop on her.
	So, you know, they're doing a $40,000 plate dinner tonight at SJP's house.
	That's how you got to say it.
	It's SJP. SJP. Who's SJP? Sarah Jessica Parker.
	That's how you got to say it if you're in the media.
	SJP. That must be a heck of a thing.
	That's got to be, oh, never mind.
	Go on.
	I'm starting to itch thinking about it.
	I know.
	I know.
	Me too.
	So, but there's not just Republicans who are on board with this, but also Dianne Feinstein.
	Who, of course, is in charge of the Intelligence Committee.
	And she's a Democrat, and we know that she hates Obama.
	She hates him mainly because, if you believe the White House insider, Obama killed two of her buddies.
	One of them being the...
	Not just killed, but also stole all of her campaign money.
	California is...
	I mean, I'm glad I'm out of there.
	That whole place is rife with corruption.
	So she's ready to do anything to oust this president.
	Don't think that just because she's a Democrat that she's on board.
	She's definitely on board with whoever's running the show.
	And she's on with Wolf Blitzer.
	And she uses a term...
	Now, growing up in a Germanic-speaking country, there's multiple interpretations of this word, but I think in America in particular, there's only one way you can interpret it in a political sense, and I think she's sending code out that something, well, see if you can detect the word and see if we can figure out the code together.
	Here she is talking to Wolf Blitzer.
	An Anschluss.
	Wow!
	Now, her pronunciation is weird.
	It should be Anschluss.
	That is the German word.
	And you can go to the Book of Knowledge.
	The Anschluss has an entry.
	I'll just read the first paragraph.
	The Anschluss, at the time of the event and until the German orthography reform of 1996, also known as the Anschluss, was the occupation and annexation of Austria into Nazi Germany in 1938.
	What is she trying to tell us, John?
	Hmm.
	So she drops the word Anschluss in and then changes it to avalanche.
	So she's thinking one thing and saying another.
	I agree.
	I think the word Anschluss came out and then she said an avalanche.
	She probably meant to say an avalanche of leaks, but the word Anschluss came out Yeah, and that's not the kind of word, let's make it clear, that's not the kind of word that's at the tip of your tongue at all moments.
	Hey baby, should we go to the Anschluss tonight?
	No, it's just not one of those things that just flops out.
	No, that has to be a word that's on your mind.
	So, well, she's in the Intelligence Committee.
	I bet you the word is being bandied about within the Intelligence Committee.
	And it means it's CIA or one of the other agencies is using the term itself.
	So that's what I'm thinking is going on.
	And that would indicate to me that we've got some sort of annexation program underway for some other country.
	Or we're being annexed.
	Well, that's, I can see, yeah.
	No, I don't think that's, if that was the case, I don't think so, because I think the word's aggressive and it's a forward-working word, which means that you would, you wouldn't think of yourself as a, you wouldn't have that word at the tip of your tongue if you're being annexed, because it's just not a word that comes, you're not being anschluced?
	I don't think so.
	I think we're taking over someone.
	Hmm.
	Well, then maybe it's directly related to Iran.
	Because it's all about the Iranian, the Vairai we sent to Iran.
	It's about Iran's involvement with Syria.
	That's what this is all about.
	About these leaks.
	Well, I do have some Panetta clips.
	I've got two clips of Panetta discussing with one of the guys on 60 Minutes.
	The show stinks.
	Yeah.
	But he...
	And there's a very interesting breakpoint.
	There's a two-parter here.
	And the breakpoint is interesting in and of itself insofar as the propaganda is concerned.
	So play Panetta on Iran.
	And this is policy.
	This is the policymaker we're talking to here.
	But on this trip, Panetta wasn't worried about Russia's thousands of nuclear weapons.
	He was thinking of what he would do if Iran built just one.
	The United States, and the president's made this clear.
	Does not want Iran to develop a nuclear weapon.
	That's a red line for us.
	And it's a red line, obviously, for the Israelis.
	So we share a common goal here.
	If we have to do it, we will do it.
	What is it?
	If they proceed and we get intelligence that they're proceeding with developing a nuclear weapon, Then we will take whatever steps are necessary to stop it.
	Including military steps.
	There are no options that are off the table.
	We were surprised to hear how far he thinks Iran has come.
	His red lines.
	Him and his red lines.
	We'll do it.
	No options.
	He won't say anything.
	He looks like he's a boozer.
	He's Italian.
	He probably likes to drink.
	He's got big red nose.
	Now, this was voiceover after, obviously, or during production, so it was voiceover after he produced it.
	So if you can just play the little snippet at the end where Pelley, Scott Pelley, makes a commentary about what we're about to hear, I want to go over that before we play the next clip.
	Wait, so this is...
	Just the end where he says that he's going to tell us something.
	Hold on, so you want me to...
	Just play the very end of the clip we played.
	Oh.
	Well, you see, I didn't know you were going to do that, and it takes a second.
	Oh, sorry.
	No, no, just because it has to...
	That's okay, you can moan and groan about it.
	Hold on a second.
	Just play it.
	But I can't fast forward it now.
	It's right there.
	You had it.
	No, but you want the ending of it.
	Here it is.
	Okay.
	So we share a common goal here.
	If we have to do it, we will do it.
	What is it?
	If they proceed and we get intelligence that they're proceeding with developing a nuclear weapon...
	Then we will take whatever steps are necessary to stop it.
	Including military steps.
	There are no options that are off the table.
	We were surprised to hear how far he thinks Iran has come.
	Okay, so it's do it.
	We're going to do it.
	No, no, no.
	Yeah, right.
	They're going to do it.
	But no, the last part is what I'm talking about.
	He's surprised.
	His voiceover says, we were surprised to hear.
	How far Iran has come.
	Now, what does this put into your mind?
	What is that commentary, which is a voiceover done after production, post-production, what does that tell you?
	That they've got a bomb and it's aimed at D.C. So now we're going to clip back to Panetta, who is going to apparently tell us how far...
	Because you're going to be surprised.
	You're going to be surprised.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm going to be flabbergasted, perhaps.
	You're going to be surprised at how far Iran has come.
	Gobsmacked I shall be.
	All right.
	So here's the surprising information.
	If they decided to do it, it would probably take them about a year to be able to produce a bomb and then possibly another one to two years in order to put it on a deliverable vehicle of some sort in order to deliver that weapon.
	They don't even have wheels yet!
	If they decide to do it, this is not telling us how far they've come.
	I'm surprised.
	This tells us nothing.
	Well, no, actually, I am surprised.
	He's right.
	I'm surprised that there's nothing happening.
	Yeah, this is very surprising.
	It's not presented that way.
	This is bad.
	This is just bad.
	I mean, when I heard this, it was actually another one of those things I heard after pulling the sound out.
	And listening to this, I went, my God, this is so misleading.
	We're not surprised to hear how far they've come unless we actually listen and discover that they haven't gone anywhere.
	I was just floored by that.
	Sorry.
	I find these little irritations in the mainstream media that are just used to bamboozle the public.
	And again, when you're watching it visually, as you've pointed out, you don't notice it.
	You just have to, just the meme goes into your brain and you walk away going, oh my God, they've almost got a bomb.
	But it turns out you should just be surprised they got nothing, no wheels.
	They got nothing.
	They're still making the tires for that thing.
	This is what all the intelligence communities have said.
	So why do we keep going down this path?
	Well, because we've got to keep them off nuclear energy, for one.
	And we've got to, you know, we've just got to keep these guys at bay.
	We don't want to, I mean, the fight is all proxy.
	We want to, it's really about Russia.
	We know this.
	It's really all about Russia.
	In fact, I should bring out...
	The message is clear.
	The message is clear.
	So, Clippity-Clop, making a lot of noise this week.
	And I took two little clips.
	The first one, she was at a conference with Shimon Perez.
	And this is a little sit-down, and she lashes out at the Russians for supplying attack helicopters to Syria.
	But she brings in something that was not analyzed by your favorite lamestream media.
	We have confronted the Russians about stopping their continued arms shipments to Syria.
	They have, from time to time, said that we shouldn't worry everything they're shipping.
	It's unrelated to their actions internally.
	That's patently untrue.
	And we are concerned about the latest information we have, that there are attack helicopters on the way from Russia to Syria, which will escalate the conflict quite dramatically.
	There seems to be a massing of Syrian forces around Aleppo that we've gotten information about over the last 24, 48 hours.
	That could very well be a red line for the Turks in terms of their strategic and national interests.
	So we're watching this very carefully.
	You're exactly right.
	Red line for the Turks.
	And we've already discussed...
	That the Turks are saying, hey, we've got Article 5, we've got Article 6, time for Article 7, or Chapter 7, and we would need a Chapter 7 resolution of the North Atlantic Treaty, and that means going in and taking over.
	That means if the Turks are attacked or if they feel attacked, they can invoke their Chapter 7 rights and ask for a resolution to go in and kick some ass.
	And we really do need to be kicking ass on the ground.
	And why, I'll tell you in a moment, because the coded messages are coming out about that now as well.
	But first we have to now, so we've had a slap in the face of the Russians.
	It's patently untrue that Russia is just sending some blankets and water.
	No, it's attack helicopters.
	They're arming the Syrian.
	They're indirectly responsible for killing women and children.
	And so she does one of these clippity-clop press conferences with, I think, the Prime Minister of India.
	And as always, these are not about the conversations really that she has with the person who's visiting.
	You know, they come into the room, the doors open, clippity-clop, clippity-clop.
	It's about the questions afterward.
	And this was scripted.
	And the reason why is you'll hear Peggy Newland call on Jill Abrams of, what is Jill Abrams, CNN or CBS? Jill Abrams, I don't know.
	Well, we know that they're buddies, because in previous Q&A sessions, we've heard Secretary Clinton say, oh, Jill, you know, it's going to be great in Paris.
	We're going to get our hair done and all that crap.
	So this is a setup, and they actually inject some humor into it.
	Thank you.
	Madam Secretary, you and Minister Lavrov of Russia appear to be calling each other liars.
	In essence, you are saying that Russia is providing helicopters.
	In fact, the word was used en route today, en route to Syria.
	Minister Lavrov completely denies that.
	He says they're providing air defense systems, but everything that they are providing does not violate international laws.
	Then he threw it back at you and said that the U.S. indeed is providing arms and weapons.
	So, you can't both be right.
	Who is?
	Actually, they can both be right, so that's bullcrap.
	Jill, that was so funny the way we wrote that together.
	So, of course, she won't answer the question, but she says something very interesting yet again.
	Well, I was very clear yesterday about our concerns regarding the continuing military relationship between Moscow and the Assad regime.
	We have repeatedly urged the Russian government to cut...
	These military ties completely and to suspend all further support and deliveries.
	Obviously we know because they confirm that they continue to deliver.
	And we believe that the situation is spiraling towards civil war, and it's now time for everyone in the international community, including Russia and all Security Council members, to speak to Assad with a unified voice.
	Okay, now just bear that in mind.
	She says civil war, and this is very important, and insists that the violence stop and come together with Kofi Annan to plan a political transition going forward.
	It is something that we believe is in everyone's interest, most particularly the Syrian people.
	Uh-huh.
	And Russia says it wants peace and stability restored.
	It says it has no particular love lost for Assad.
	And it also claims to have vital interests in the region.
	It claims to have vital...
	She's saying this like, they don't have any vital interests.
	Ah, let me think.
	How about the massive deep water harbor that they run, that they own?
	She's literally saying they claim to have some interest, strategic interest that's just full of crap.
	Yeah, that's what that implies.
	That's a total bogative lie.
	I mean, of course...
	You claim to have this clip from Hillary...
	Yes, I claim to have that.
	And relationships that it wants to continue to keep.
	They put all of that at risk if they do not...
	That, now there's the threat.
	You're putting your harbor at risk.
	That's the threat right there.
	All of that.
	All of those assets you claim to have, you're putting that at risk, Ruskies.
	Move more constructively right now.
	Now!
	And I would emphasize that the United States has provided no military support to the Syrian opposition.
	Oh!
	Oh, no military support.
	Just water and blankets, I presume.
	None.
	None.
	All of our support has been medical and humanitarian to help relieve the suffering of the Syrian people.
	A total of $52 million so far.
	We have also provided non-lethal support to the opposition, including things like communications gear.
	Communications gear.
	I love the choice of words.
	It's like, hey, here's a backpack full of walkie-talkies.
	That's from us here.
	This is communications gear.
	So rather than having a long-distance debate...
	She can't remember his name.
	With my colleague...
	Lavrov.
	Yes, she can't remember.
	Lavrov is his name.
	With whom I work on so many issues on a regular basis.
	This is terrible.
	She can't remember his name.
	No, she couldn't remember his name.
	I would urge that we follow the lead and request of Kofi Annan and come together to try to implement the pillars of his plan...
	So we've learned some important things here.
	First of all, they're full of crap about their harbor, which they're digging deeper now for their warships, and for a number of strategic reasons.
	Of course, pipelines will be one of them.
	We really don't want them there, and the word is now definitely out.
	If you don't cooperate with us, i.e., if you don't work with us on the United Nations Security Council, you are at risk of losing, losing this.
	Now, she mentioned civil war, and this is very important.
	The Clintons have a script.
	And this has been done before.
	In fact, it was at that time a script against Russia and China.
	And this, of course, is Bosnia.
	So we have to go back to the 90s.
	And some weird stuff happened with the bombing of Bosnia-Herzegovina, including the bombing of the Chinese embassy.
	Remember that in Belgrade in the late 90s?
	Yes, the accidental...
	This is a good one.
	Yeah.
	It was one of those cruise missiles that were very, very accurate.
	Very pinpoint accuracy.
	They'd go through a window, they used to say.
	It would come right through the window.
	No, they had video of it.
	They had video of it going through a window.
	Went off course and blew up the Chinese embassy.
	How is it possible?
	Really pissed off the Chinese, by the way.
	Yes.
	And of course, back in the day, this was another NATO operation, but led by the Clintons, when Bill was president and Hillary was running the show in the background, which is now clear to us.
	So, civil war, ethnic cleansing, and making a connection to Bosnia.
	Now, this is the new code you're going to be seeing a lot of.
	In fact, Christiana Anampur, who still works for CNN and the compromised ABC, I think she works, she's compromised.
	She brought out Ili Wiesel.
	Are you familiar with Ili Wiesel?
	Weisel.
	Elie Weisel, Weisel.
	I like Weisel.
	I like the Weasels better.
	Yeah, Elie Weisel.
	Yeah, I am familiar with him.
	Weisel, no, but now I am.
	Elie Weisel.
	So Elie Weisel is, he says, a Holocaust survivor, which would put him at over 90 years.
	He says he was born in 1928.
	Um...
	And just a quick Google search will show you that there is a lot of controversy about the legitimacy of his claims as a Holocaust survivor.
	But I don't want to get into that because I haven't...
	It's not what we're talking about.
	It's not what we're talking about.
	But regardless, he is being brought out...
	To make the connection, make the psychological connection between Bosnia and Syria.
	I cannot not tell you...
	This was...
	I'm sorry.
	So, as a part of this interview, the first thing she does is she rolls out a clip of Bill and Hillary with the weasel speaking and saying, you know, we've got to stop this because we can't have another holocaust.
	And this is in relation to Bosnia-Herzegovina.
	I cannot not tell you something.
	I have been in the former Yugoslavia last fall.
	I cannot sleep since what I have seen.
	As a Jew I am saying that.
	We must do something to stop the bloodshed in that country.
	So that was the first time he was a part of stopping something.
	So this clip was when?
	In the 90s.
	Okay.
	So this is an old clip of him, and what you're doing is you say your claim is that they're using the same script, which we've seen.
	Yes.
	Yeah, okay.
	Which makes sense, because these guys seem to be working off scripts.
	They're not creative.
	It's a remake.
	It's just like Men in Black 3.
	It's just the same thing over again.
	So here he is laying down the script for Syria.
	Scandal is that the world is not doing enough to stop it.
	I invited the president a few weeks ago to visit the Holocaust Museum in Washington.
	And in my introduction...
	I already mentioned Syria.
	Syria was then, as it is now, a symbol of mass murder.
	And the fact that we know, the fact that we can see it on television, the fact that we can speak about it, and nothing is being done, that is a scandal.
	I'm fascinated by what you said specifically in that regard.
	You said that the Holocaust, even that could have been stopped because people knew in 39, 40, 41, even 42.
	And you said particularly that each time in Berlin when Goebbels and the others always waited to see what would be the response in Washington or London or other capitals.
	And they were emboldened when there was no response.
	She literally is laying out the script now.
	I mean, she's not...
	Yeah, with a bullcrap interpretation of history.
	Explain.
	Well, for one thing, even if they knew something was going on, what was anyone going to do about it?
	The British weren't interested in fighting.
	They were interested in negotiating.
	And we were isolationists for all practical purposes.
	What are we supposed to do?
	Until the Japanese bombed us, we weren't even remotely interested in this idiotic war in Europe.
	So it's not as though if we'd gotten the word that we had George Bush in charge and we'd be sending over drones and attacking them, Germany out of the blue, this is bullcrap.
	And there is some evidence, there were some indications of what was going on, but nobody gave a crap about anything.
	But what's interesting is he doesn't say this, she says, what you're saying is, and then she draws that conclusion.
	Yes.
	No doubt about that.
	No doubt about it.
	When you read the memoirs of those men who committed murders, who gave the orders to commit murders, they speak about it, that the world doesn't care.
	And they mention Washington, and they mention the White House, and they mention really all those people who were supposed to be the defenders of democracy.
	The great heroes of moral values and saviors of victims.
	They did not do anything.
	Oh yes, there was a war going on, let's be honest.
	Of course there was a war.
	But the words, the words were missing.
	They spoke about war, but they did not speak about what Hitler has done to the Jewish people.
	Day after day, at one point, when Hungarian Jews were targeted, and I'm one of them, 12,000 a day.
	So, his message is very clear.
	Holocaust taking place in Syria, civil war, ethnic cleansing, just like Bosnia-Herzegovina, and we cannot sit on the sidelines without doing something.
	Well, is this a stretch?
	I think it's a stretch.
	Now, in Gitmo Nation East in the UK, they have to communicate with their slaves a little bit differently.
	So the headlines there are, Serious Ghost Killers, Steroid Mad Thugs Who Keep Tyrant Al-Assad's Murderous Regime in Power Are Terrorizing Civilians.
	Have you seen these articles?
	Where they got these big hyped up guys, like, you know, get pumped up on steroids.
	They're slitting children's throats.
	There's child abuse going on.
	It's crazy.
	Then Kofi and Bunky Moon.
	This, by the way, goes back to a World War I script.
	And if anybody wants to check out how this script operated, they can go to the Library of Congress and look at World War I posters.
	It's a great collection.
	And they showed that what would happen if we didn't get involved in World War I was these huge apes.
	These giant apes.
	There's posters that show this.
	Giant apes with German helmets on.
	With women under their arms.
	Big gorillas with women under their arms.
	Like King Kong.
	Like a couple maybe deep beheaded.
	And they're coming with blood coming out of their mouths of the apes.
	And they're coming over to our shores to rape all our women.
	This goes on forever, and it's annoying to see it over and over and over again.
	The variations are minor.
	So Ban Ki-moon, Secretary General of the United Nations, threw another little bit of gas onto the fire.
	Actually, the mainstream media took his annual report of children and armed conflict and extrapolated one piece, one little piece about Syria.
	How children are being...
	Let me see if I have the quote here.
	Where's Ban Ki-moon?
	Here we go.
	UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon's annual report on children and armed conflict during 2011 included Syrian government forces and the allied Shabiha for the first time on a list of 52 governments and armed groups that recruit, kill, or sexually attack children in armed conflicts.
	And then he goes on to say that basically these hyped-up ghost killers on steroids are raping children and killing them and just, you know, just horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible.
	So, of course, I pull up the report for you, which you can find in the show notes, 417.nashownotes.com.
	Yes, there is.
	Well, actually, I'll just read the opening paragraph here.
	Present report, which covers January to December 2011, provides information on grave violations committed against children, in particular recruitment and use of children, sexual violence against children, killing and maiming of children, abduction of children, attacks on schools and hospitals, denial of humanitarian access to children by parties to conflict and contravention.
	The report covers 23 country situations, of which 16 are on the agenda of the Security Council.
	Seven are not on the agenda or related to other country situations.
	Two new country situations added to the report, Libya and the Syrian Arab Republic, while two others have been removed, Haiti and Burundi.
	Why you would remove Haiti, where children are dying of poop?
	Poop sickness and definitely being raped and abused is beyond me.
	And so, yeah, there is a report where they have one witness, one witness, count them one in Syria, who says, yeah, I saw some of these ghost killers abusing some children.
	But what no one highlights...
	Let me just see here.
	We have...
	Of course, I've highlighted all of this.
	So they have Lord's Resistance Army.
	Apparently, the Lord's Resistance Army, which we cannot find, which has dwindled down to a group of like 10, was responsible for killing 101 children, 63 boys and 38 girls.
	So I don't know how they get that information.
	Why can't we find this guy, Coney, if we have that detail to report?
	But no one is mentioning occupied Palestinian territory in Israel.
	448 children were killed in occupied Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem, and five Israeli children, four boys and one girl, were killed and injured in Israel in incidents related to the conflict.
	No one mentions that.
	Not a single mention in the news.
	It's only this one witness in Syria, and no one else can confirm it.
	And interestingly enough, America's not on this list.
	Our children are below the poverty line, and we've got children being abused by the Sandusky.
	America's not on the list at all.
	This is only other governments that we want to go and conquer as the United Nations.
	This is very egregious that, A, the only thing that's been highlighted in this report, and it's sad.
	I mean, it really, really is sad.
	Pakistan.
	In 2011, children continue to be victims of indiscriminate attacks, including by improvised explosive devices.
	Report indicate that a total of 57 children were killed.
	No mention of children killed by drone strikes, Hellfire missiles, nothing.
	Not a single thing.
	You could at least say one.
	There was one 15-year-old kid who was Anwar Al-Awlaki's son who got killed by a drone.
	That's not in there.
	So your report sucks, Bonky Moon.
	You suck.
	You can play the Pet Peeve of the Day if you want.
	Yeah, I think I should.
	I'll see Curry's Pet Peeve of the Day.
	The BBC messed something up, though, in their reporting.
	See if you can catch what they messed up in this report about Syria.
	Activists in Syria are reporting more violence and deaths in various parts, with several people reported killed in government shelling in the city of Dera.
	By the way, if we ever want to be taken seriously, this is how we've got to talk.
	Yes, I know.
	Says John.
	You know, this Bunky Moon report, it really doesn't seem very right.
	It's completely wrong.
	No, no, no.
	There's concern about the situation near Al Hafer, near the coast in the northwest, which UN observers were unable to reach after their vehicles were attacked and shot at.
	Our correspondent Jim Muir reports from Beirut.
	OK, he's in Beirut, in Lebanon, which is also on the list.
	Syria finds itself in the curious situation where both sides in the conflict are predicting a massacre at Al-Hafa and already blaming the other for it.
	And mind you, this is all being set up because we heard Lucifer talk about this.
	She got the intelligence.
	She knew it was happening.
	It's happening.
	She knows it's happening.
	It's all going to happen right there.
	And BBC, everyone's got the information.
	It's going to happen in there.
	Big, big, big, big massacre.
	The mountain town is held by rebels and surrounded by government forces.
	State television has been heralding an impending slaughter by playing the recording of an alleged telephone intercept in which two rebels are plotting a massacre to be filmed and blamed on the government.
	Woo!
	Bye.
	Woo!
	I find that to be big news.
	We got all these drones.
	They got these unbelievable cameras on that they can read in newspaper from 11 miles in the air.
	And we can't fly over this little area that we know where it's going to take place and see what the hell's going on?
	Are they doing it underground?
	I mean, I'm just wondering.
	I have no idea.
	Does it make sense to you?
	No.
	Okay.
	So the BBC finds an intercepted report between rebels saying, hey, we're going to cause a ruckus over here and blame it on the regime.
	Hillary says, yeah, we got a big ruckus coming.
	So that's coming.
	These are hit squads, hit squads that are in there to create the vision of a civil war, ethnic cleansing.
	And the only thing that's holding them back right now is that Russia, I think China will come on board, but that Russia is vetoing and saying, no, we're not going to allow you to go in.
	But what they want, what they truly want, And I've got to put this on Lucifer Clinton, is they want a replay of the Bosnia-Herzegovina script.
	That's what they want.
	And Russia, the word is out.
	You want to keep your port?
	You want anything?
	Do you want to be able to dock?
	And you've got to get on board really, really quick.
	I mean, the only thing I can see is that maybe in the next 24 hours or 48 hours we have some huge slaughter, and then it'll just be off to the races.
	They're just going to say, screw it.
	Russia will be demonized, and they're going to go in.
	I mean, you know, Turkey...
	Well, give it Russia every chance we can.
	It's not that we're, you know, not offering them an opportunity to be on the team.
	Mm-hmm.
	Russia must really have, they must have more, I don't know, maybe they're more loyal, you know, because they did a deal with this Assad guy and they're still selling him a lot of guns and stuff.
	And they just can't see doing it.
	Or they want more, or they want more, they're negotiating.
	You know what we need, don't you?
	You tell me.
	You've got something going on and you need a distraction call.
	Where's George?
	We've got to bring Clooney in.
	That's the call I'd make.
	I'm like, we can't seem to move this thing.
	Call Clooney.
	You know, he needs to cry.
	Clooney has been kind of out of the news for a while.
	Yeah, well, they've got to send him another check.
	He's got to cry about something.
	You know, about the ghost killers.
	So you've got the hook on your Anschluss.
	Oh, tell me.
	Okay.
	You like that, huh?
	Well, I know, because I understand what the mechanism is here, and I still believe it's exactly the way I interpreted it, which is that she dropped it because it's being used a lot, because here's an intelligence guy that uses it on something called Press TV, a very obscure little news site.
	Pro-Russia, isn't that?
	Press TV is a Russian outfit?
	Maybe.
	Yeah, I think that's Russian propaganda.
	American author, Islamic studies expert, says a Saudi proposal to merge with Bahrain Oh.
	Yeah, no, no, no.
	We discussed that.
	We know that's happening.
	Well, we know there's something fishy going on because of the fact that no one wants to do the Arab Spring for Bahrain and they're protesting left and right.
	So there's definitely something scary going on.
	But it turns out that this would be an Anschluss.
	And it looks as if the Saudis are going to be given the green light to take over Bahrain, Qatar.
	Right, then we have the United States of Arabia.
	The United Arab Emirates, Oman perhaps, and there's going to be like a Cooperation Council created.
	And this all has to do with, it says the Gulf Cooperation Council claims the purpose of the unity is to counter regional threats, a.k.a.
	Iran, because...
	It's a known fact that if the Iranians get a bomb, the Saudis are going to have to go into this process, and this could create some sort of a mess for everybody.
	And so I think they're going to create a United States of Arabia.
	Of Arabia, yeah.
	Press TV is Iranian, by the way.
	Yeah.
	Iranian.
	Let's just move off of all of this, because all we can do is just wait for it to happen.
	Well, at least we know what's going on.
	Oh yeah, that always makes me feel better.
	I can just say, okay, I see how the script is playing out.
	So I was in Los Angeles and I've been tracking this autism thing and We got a coffee at the Coffee Bean, and my daughter, bless her heart, she says...
	The Coffee Bean?
	The Coffee Bean, yeah.
	That's funny.
	That's huge in Singapore.
	Well, it's nice and clean.
	And they don't sell gum there.
	And it's from the, you know, this, you know, so we have the bonanza in the cyber warfare.
	We have the bonanza.
	You know, there's always nice to look at it.
	There's money to be made.
	Unless you're doing a podcast.
	Otherwise, there's money to be made.
	So, you know, we never plugged Dvorak.org slash or Dvorak.com.
	Yeah, I did.
	Yeah, I did.
	I played the jingle.
	Yeah, I know what I'm doing.
	So autism, which of course is going to be a huge bonanza with DSM-5 coming out.
	This is the Diagnostic Medical Bible, which they've changed autism to the ASD, the Autistic Spectrum Disorder, which puts all kinds of disorders your child would have into this sickness, this illness, which your child just may be extremely talented and or brilliant, but the resolution seems to be to give them all kinds of drugs.
	And so there's a couple of groups out there.
	One is, well, it's also, it's donation time.
	Autism Speaks.
	They just came out and said, oh, our freezer, which held brain tissue to do autism research, failed.
	The alarms failed.
	The freezer failed.
	This might be foul play, but this sets back autism research years.
	And, of course, this is a perfect opportunity for Autism Speaks to ask for more money.
	These are all 501c3 corporations, so they don't have to disclose their donors.
	And then there's this other group.
	Another non-profit called The Help Group.
	They had revenues of $14 million in 2010.
	They have not released their Form 990 for 2011, but I guess they have until October to do that, so I don't fault them for that.
	And so my daughter picks up this brochure.
	She says, oh, look at the little autistic baby.
	He's so cute.
	I'm like, whoa, hold on.
	The Help Group, Leading the Way for Young People with Autism.
	And so I just want to read you this.
	The travesty that is taking place as the pharmaceutical industry is trying to drug your children from four months of age.
	And let me just give you some of the symptoms.
	So this whole brochure is...
	By the way, April was National Autism Awareness Month.
	I guess we missed that.
	By four months of age, your child may have autism if it does not make eye contact or makes little eye contact, does not seem interested in other people, does not react by looking at people when they are making social sounds such as humming or clapping, does not have a social smile.
	And does not show interest in watching people's faces.
	So if you have any of these, you immediately need to go see your doctor.
	Your child may be listed on the autism spectrum disorder scale.
	Please contact your pediatrician.
	Then we have 12 months of age, 24 months of age, and I particularly like, well, 24 months of age is kind of interesting, does not look towards an object that is pointed to.
	Maybe it's just a dumb object.
	Does not point to share interest with others, such as pointing to an appealing toy.
	What's an appealing toy?
	Does not imitate common activities.
	Well, wait a minute.
	Hold on a second.
	That's kind of self-contradictory.
	If it's an appealing toy, but if he's not interested in this toy, how would you know it was appealing?
	Does you like it?
	I like this pretty hair.
	I like the toy.
	I like if you like it.
	Maybe it's an appealing toy as a bolt.
	I know.
	I've given my kid toys, and you've done it at Christmas.
	The kid goes like, and plays with the wrapping paper.
	Autism, autism, autism.
	You've got autism, kid.
	Take your child to the doctor!
	Then we have...
	Does not learn...
	CP radio.
	Does not develop, pretend, or make-believe plays such as feeding a doll.
	I mean, I know kids, boys, who like to play with cooking sets.
	I mean, come on.
	Does not spontaneously use meanful two-word phrases.
	Example, go car or look doggy by 24 months of age.
	I mean...
	Look doggy?
	Look doggy.
	Look doggy.
	Okay, and then I just want to go through...
	I mean, the whole brochure is filled.
	I'm just picking a few out.
	Other early signs.
	Now, we've had the spinning, right?
	We like the spinning stuff.
	Echoes what others say, which is called echolalia, without regular spontaneous speech.
	I mean, this is what all kids do!
	Yeah, give an example.
	Say something, John.
	So, Adam, what are you going to do today?
	So, Adam, what are you going to do today?
	No, no, don't backtalk me.
	That's what kids do!
	I did that.
	Well, you still do it, apparently.
	I'm just hearing it.
	Demonstrate speech that sounds mechanical, almost robotic.
	That's funny, because J.C. Buzzkill Jr.
	used to play a robot when he was a little kid.
	Get that kid to the doctor!
	You can still do it!
	You can still do it.
	Prefers to play alone or does not show interest in other children.
	Maybe the children just suck.
	Come on.
	Here it is.
	Displays repetitive body movements.
	Hand flapping and spinning.
	I love the spinning.
	But here's a better one.
	In the black community, he keeps shooting a basketball over and over and over.
	Walks on tiptoes.
	I've seen this behavior, by the way.
	I saw a kid who was walking on tiptoes.
	I'm like, wow, you're going to be a ballerina.
	Clearly, you're talented.
	No.
	You've got to immediately lock that kid up and throw it into the doctor's office and shove some drugs down its throat and give unrelated answers to questions.
	This is just typical moronic kid behavior.
	I'm sorry.
	This is really, really, really disturbing.
	What is going on here?
	I like the question one.
	Repeat that one.
	The question one?
	Which one was that?
	It gives crazy answers to questions.
	It gives unrelated answers to questions?
	Yeah.
	Don't you think there's a lot of humor that you can do a bit out of that?
	What do you mean?
	Say, Adam, so where are you right now?
	I like blue!
	Take the kid to the doctor, quick!
	Go car!
	Go car!
	Look, doggy!
	My goodness.
	Shame on all of you.
	Spinning all the way to the bank.
	Spinning and hand flapping.
	Stop that hand flapping.
	If anyone sees you, you're going to have to go to the doctor.
	And if that weren't enough, this got tweeted a lot.
	This was the most emailed article.
	The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has provided a grant of $1.1 million.
	To develop a psychological measure to see how engaged students are by their teachers' lessons, which involves galvanic skin response bracelets.
	What?
	They're going to wire the kids up to a lie detector during class?
	Yes.
	Galvanic skin response bracelets that kids wear so their engagement levels can be measured.
	You're right.
	And you just reverse it and it's a galvanic skin response.
	That is the technology that is used for...
	Lie detectors.
	Lie detectors.
	Yeah, they use three things.
	You got your heart rate, you got your breathing, which is a strap around your chest, and then these little clips that go on your fingers.
	So they're going to make bracelets, and they've granted...
	Here's the description of the $498,000 part of the grant granted to Clemson University that was awarded in November.
	Purpose, colon, to work with members of the Measuring Effective Teachers Team, MET, You know who uses that device exclusively?
	Scientologists.
	Oh, you're right.
	You're right.
	That's how you get on the clear machine.
	Scientologists have gotten into the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
	I can almost guarantee it.
	That is...
	Good catch.
	Hold on.
	Let's just...
	We have to do something here.
	Consult the book of knowledge.
	Let's see.
	I'm just doing a Google search.
	Let's ask Baby what she got for us.
	Hmm.
	No, I don't see anything.
	I think we're the first ones to peg this, John.
	Hmm.
	Thank you.
	No, I don't see any articles in the Book of Knowledge.
	For what?
	What are you looking for?
	I just did Scientology Bill Gates Foundation.
	Oh yeah, no, I don't think...
	They don't make a big deal out of stuff like that.
	But it sounds like a Scientologist to me.
	Who else would come up with this idea?
	And the Scientologists are huge about what they perceive as flaws in the education system.
	So they would put, and they love that, they call it an e-meter or something like that.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's typically like two big cylindrical things you hold on to and it has a meter.
	Yeah, it's like a couple cans.
	Like two tin cans wired up to a voltmeter.
	Yeah, something like that.
	But this comes at the same week that, you know, your favorite band there, Coldplay?
	You know those guys that you love so much that you play at the house?
	Green Day.
	No, you like Coldplay too, trust me.
	Okay, sure.
	So they did an experiment with this thing called Xylo Bands.
	And the Xylo bands are little RFID receivers.
	And this is the hot new thing in concert.
	So you get a band, which of course is going to be very similar to this galvanic skin response band, I'm sure.
	It's going to have all kinds of stuff in here.
	And it has little LED lights in it.
	And they can trigger these lights going on and off.
	During the concert, which of course makes for a spectacular effect.
	So the lighting is not just on stage, but the audience is also flashing red, yellow, in tune with the music, etc.
	And a couple of people in Gitmo Nation East who had these bracelets at a concert and had them at home, they noticed that all of a sudden they got reactivated, they started going off again.
	And according to the XyloBands guys, oh, we were shooting a music video nearby, the transmitter range is two kilometers.
	That's the power of this RFID stuff these days.
	Two kilometers.
	They can broadcast the signal and then it lights up.
	Wow.
	Yeah, that's cool stuff.
	In fact, I think we should have no agenda XyloBands.
	Yeah, we should.
	And then you just wear the band and when you're near a fellow producer home, it lights up.
	Like, I'm safe here.
	So have you ever been hooked up to a light detector?
	I built one once.
	With a Radio Shack 101 projects in one.
	Have you been hooked up to a lie detector?
	Yeah, when I was at the University of California, they used to have psychological studies that you could sign up for.
	You'd get $100 if you'd participate.
	Oh, and how'd you do?
	Did you pass?
	It's not like you pass or fail, but you get hooked up to a lie detector.
	I think, you know, you can't really...
	Here's the situation I ran into, which makes me think lie detectors tend to work.
	It was a test that was apparently a test where they sat you down in the lie detector and then they showed you a movie, one of those shop class movies where the guy sawing a piece of wood and then the wood catches onto the blade and gets flung across the room and goes right through some guy and then pins him to the wall and blood starts gushing out of his mouth.
	So I was told in advance And there was a second movie I had to watch, which was where these aborigines or some African tribe circumcised their kids, or their boys, only the boys were like 14, and they used a rock.
	What?
	They chase the kid down.
	It's a movie.
	It's around.
	Cool.
	They chase the kid down, they grab him, and then they take his pecker, and then they start pounding the end of it with a rock against another rock to circumcise him.
	Awesome.
	It's totally gross.
	So anyway.
	Wait a minute.
	Is this on Netflix?
	Yeah, I'm sure it is.
	So somebody says, you've got to take this thing just to see these movies.
	They're unbelievable.
	But he told me about the movies in advance.
	So when they hooked me up to the lie detector, I was already anticipating.
	You were set up, of course.
	I was set up, and the lie detector, I was watching it because there's no reason to hide it.
	I was going nuts and I couldn't stop it.
	And the guy says, this is unusual.
	You know, why would you be doing this now?
	We haven't even shown you the movie.
	Well, hold on a second.
	You got a guy pounding the other guy's pecker with a rock.
	No, no, this was in anticipation.
	I was pinning the needles.
	I was anticipating this gruesome scene, so I was kind of tense.
	Okay.
	So it came through.
	Having experienced that, I'm pretty sure that if you had a real lie detector and you had somebody know what they're doing, and you could sit down and meditate, I think you could control it.
	I think you could lie to these things.
	You know what?
	You and I should both have a lie detector.
	We should have these wristbands, these Gates wristbands on during the show, so that when we're lying, it would go, you know, it's like...
	Yeah Now we don't That much on the show That I know of I certainly don't.
	I don't.
	Although, I'll say that guy with all the money, Alex Jones.
	Sorry, I know you hate it when I talk about him.
	He's now saying on his show, Yeah, I knew about all this Ron Paul stuff.
	I knew that was...
	It's been going on for months.
	I didn't want to say anything.
	What?
	Yeah.
	Remember the clip we played where he was like, you're full of crap, you're full of crap.
	The guy was jumping, Jones was jumping all over that guy for revealing this information.
	Yeah, and now he's like, I knew this was happening, I just didn't want to say it.
	I gotta call you out for bullcrap, buddy.
	I'm gonna show myself old by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on no agenda.
	In the morning.
	So we have a couple of things.
	First I want to discuss...
	Did you get the note from...
	Where's his name?
	Sir Sander Hoxbergen?
	With a picture of his wife?
	No!
	A picture of his wife?
	Yeah, go look it up.
	He comes in in a funny email.
	His wife is gorgeous.
	It's under Sander, S-A-N-D-E-R, No Agenda TV. Yeah, he does no Agenda TV. Sure, let me see.
	Yeah, well, we owe him another Knighthood, apparently.
	Second Knighthood.
	Yeah, but I... Oh, wait.
	I see the attachment.
	Hold on a second.
	I hadn't seen the attachment.
	Let me see.
	Oh.
	Yeah, so you would have seen that.
	Yeah, I hadn't seen that, but I see it now.
	She's cute.
	Now she's got a black knight coming up on Sunday.
	Ah, okay.
	Or a screw-up.
	So, let me get back to the spreadsheet.
	She's super cute.
	Yeah, she's very pretty.
	We want to thank some people for today's show 417.
	In that picture, she does kind of look like I'm going to mess you up, Corrine Dvorak.
	Don't you think she has kind of that look on her face?
	She's got a...
	I'll kick your ass.
	She's got a mischievous look.
	She's got a, I'm going to kick your ass look.
	That's what I'm seeing.
	Well, if we don't give her a knighthood, her name, which she will.
	So we're doing that Sunday?
	Toby...
	Toby Knott's in Kenilworth, Illinois, which is, I think, where our buddy is.
	That's the area where it's a very ritzy little community just north of Chicago.
	Like, just immediately north.
	And it's, I think, where Jesse Jackson has a mansion.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, I don't have any notes from him.
	I might.
	One, two, three, four, five.
	And Morton Kiernan in Copenhagen, one, two, three, four, five.
	Is that weird or what?
	It's funny when that happens.
	Morton says, donating drunk on cognac in Kami, Denmark.
	ITM and keep up the good work.
	Looking forward to a new Farage barrage against the TikTok EU. Would like some more analysis on the Schengen and the Spanish banking crisis.
	We'd also like a karma to help me cope with work stress at the moment.
	Well, not very drunk.
	Not very drunk.
	Why is not very drunk?
	It's too illiterate.
	Karma.
	Now, this came up when it looks like Astrid Klein, but it claims to be from Aumi, who's using Dame Astrid's Tokyo email address, and it's for $111.
	And she says, Hi, Adam.
	Hi, John.
	My friend Astrid, supposedly a dame, annoyingly tried to hit me in the mouth many times, but now she tells me that you have a great scheme to bail us webcam girls out.
	I really want to support you, and since I'm a first-time donor, here's $111 for you fine guys.
	Astrid, by the way, wishes you Happy Father's Day.
	Love from Tokyo.
	Umi.
	Umi.
	She should send her a picture.
	Where's her picture?
	Send a picture.
	And yes, if John and I, we have a plan, once we're elected president and Veep, we will provide a bailout to the American people by giving it to the webcam girls.
	We feel that this would really stimulate the economy.
	As it were.
	Sir Lawrence Royke, $109.17 in the morning.
	Hearing that Dame Tanya hit $3,000 on Sunday compelled me to donate.
	I like the competition.
	This now puts me at the $3,000 level as well.
	Could use some karma.
	We have to use some knights.
	You've got karma.
	How does that work?
	Buzzkill didn't put any knights on the list.
	Royke didn't say anything.
	Doc his pay.
	I think he owes his money now.
	Yeah.
	So we're going to do it all on Sunday?
	Please tell me.
	Yeah, no, Sunday we're going to do a bunch of nights, I guess.
	Yeah, this is crazy.
	Ken Gurney in Oshawa, Ontario, $100.
	Richard Troiano in somewhere, Canada.
	You missed the whole big one here.
	Oh yeah, Sacramento.
	Sacramento, as we call it locally.
	I'd like to start off this donation by thanking you both for countless hours of entertainment.
	I've been meaning to donate again.
	I donated 33 some time ago for a podcast license.
	But never received it.
	You have to go to firstnamelastname.podcastlicense.com.
	People think something's going to show up in the mail.
	That's not the way it works.
	You have to print it off the website.
	Although I do not generally believe in the concept of karma, I'll give it a try.
	Can I please get a de-douching and some getting-laid karma?
	If the getting-laid karma works, I will be sure to let you know via another donation.
	Anyway, I was reading my favorite fictional book a few weeks ago, the 9-11 Commission Report.
	Yeah, I pull that off the shelf once in a while myself if I want a good laugh.
	And came across the following items that I bookmarked during my first read in 2003.
	I hope you find much humor in the following excerpts as I did.
	Chapter 7, Attack Looms.
	And he says, according to KSM, operatives volunteer for suicide operations that for the most part were not pressured to martyr themselves.
	Upon arriving in Afghanistan, a recruit would fill out an application.
	It's weird.
	Okay.
	Have you not read the 9-11 Commission Report?
	I have not.
	Oh, it's hilarious.
	You need to read it.
	Yeah, apparently.
	It's great.
	Wait, wait.
	He needs a dedouching and a karma.
	Absolutely.
	You've been dedouched.
	You've got karma.
	Moving along to Bradford Galeon, Lake Charles, Louisiana.
	$100, the best podcast in the universe.
	Don't call it a comeback.
	Don't call it a comeback!
	What does that mean?
	We played that on the last show.
	Oh, I forgot already.
	So what does he need?
	Sir Greg Peters.
	Wait a minute.
	Did he need some karma?
	No, that's all he said.
	Oh, okay.
	Sorry.
	Sir Craig, not everybody wants karma.
	Good.
	It turns out to cause a karmic imbalance, and then we have that guy hitting deer.
	You've got to be really careful with the karma, because, you know, it could...
	Sir Craig Peters in Hatboro, Pennsylvania, $99.99, which requires you to say something.
	Niner, Niner, Niner, Niner!
	My wife has started her second course of chemo.
	She went through a course of treatment a couple years ago.
	So here's a quad niner for some karma for her.
	Please call out cancer for being a douchebag.
	Yes.
	Douchebag!
	And any listeners in and around Gitmo Nation cheesecake.
	Steak.
	Steak.
	Oh, I said cake.
	It's steak.
	That's Philly for those slaves.
	Cheesecake would be part of Manhattan.
	About Gilda's Club Delaware Valley, that's Gilda'sClubDelVal.org.
	I'm on the board there, and after donating to No Agenda, Gilda's should get some money for all the good work they do to provide the free services for families living with cancer.
	Thanks and keep the getting by, delivering the greatest podcasts.
	In the universe, Craig Peters, I'm including an extra $100.
	Or an extra trillion dollars.
	Yeah, I sent in a check.
	Zimbabwe?
	With another Zimbabwe.
	I have five of them now.
	Oh, I only have one.
	All right.
	Let's give him his wife some karma there.
	You've got karma.
	Fuck the cancer karma.
	Dennis Cruz in Beaverton, Oregon.
	Nine, nine, nine, nine.
	Niner, niner, niner, niner from the den man.
	That's the den man.
	He makes another appearance.
	Byrar.com.
	B-Y-R-A-R. Uh-oh.
	Ah!
	What?
	Oh, yes, right.
	No, yeah.
	Well, we have another string of these, which this is another long string, which is weird since it's almost ended a little while ago.
	Dubuque, Iowa, 6969, admitting you have a problem in the first step to recovery, so I've been told.
	So I'm admitting I've been a douchebag.
	Give him a douchebag thing.
	Douchebag!
	For not donating sooner, I won an online trivia game with information I knew from listening to No Agenda.
	Ha, ha.
	So I took the name Dooch as a reminder based on John's earlier flood saying Dooch.
	I would also like to ask for some getting pregnant karma for some close friends trying to have their first human resource.
	You've got karma.
	The Devorah Curry Consulting Group can also help with that.
	Send pictures first.
	Bradley Ledin in Fayetteville, Arkansas, 69-69.
	Sir Sam Leong in Toronto, you thought the streak would end, 69-69.
	Irving Owens, Jr.
	in Alameda, 69-69.
	Brandon Savoy in Bremerton, Washington, 69-69.
	Marcus Sapalat, angered, I don't know, from Switzerland, I guess.
	Technically a drunk donation from Gitmo Nation Tax Haven.
	Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
	Drunk.
	He says technically, though.
	Okay.
	Getting laid in karma seems to do wonders, so we'll appreciate it again.
	I think I have a good point earlier today, though.
	Apparently he's Canadian.
	He's Canadian.
	Isn't it sad that just one year ago you didn't believe they put you back in the van with a hood and sent you to Gitmo?
	I suppose that's where the Gitmo Nation meme came from.
	And that would be the ultimate punishment.
	Now they just draw a baseball card and drone you.
	Things have seriously gotten worse, haven't they?
	And nobody's paying attention except you guys.
	Yeah.
	Well, you're some getting laid karma.
	You've got karma.
	The stream continues with Levi Breederland in Elder Grove, B.C., 6969.
	Nicholas Killam, St.
	John, New Brunswick.
	A lot of Canadians have got the 6969 thing going on here.
	6969.
	Well, it's actually used by pseudonym, Nether Sight.
	Hey, way to go, Buzzkill Jr.
	Rocking the spreadsheet this week.
	Thanks.
	Hey, I'm a new listener, not drunk, he's asleep.
	From the Socialist Republic of Canada, my friend Double A introduced me to you guys because I was ranting about drones and other poop.
	One day.
	So I'm so totally on the list now.
	So shout-out to a long-time boner, Double A, for introducing me.
	Give him a douchebag.
	No, shout-out, man.
	He wants a shout-out.
	Oh, a shout-out, sorry.
	Shout-out!
	Nice to meet you.
	Donate in six minutes.
	Really, believe me, it doesn't come true.
	Donating 6969 because it seems to make John happy, and it's a nice symmetrical number.
	It's not really symmetrical.
	It's the little things.
	I guess it is symmetrical, depending, whether you're mirroring or...
	Okay.
	Just wanted to say you guys are awesome and provide a vital humanitarian service.
	Please keep doing the show even if it's once a week.
	My miserable slave existence would not be the same without your show.
	So you want some karma, and then he's on the list for the birthday.
	You've got karma.
	In the morning!
	Oh.
	Don Ros...
	Rosicus.
	Rosakis.
	Rosakis.
	Hey, my old hood.
	Montclair, New Jersey.
	Montclair, New Jersey.
	We're the home of Adam Curry.
	Yeah, I actually...
	Adam Curry slept here.
	I technically lived in Verona, but Glen Road.
	Go check it out.
	6666 in the morning with this donation may require a bit more than a standard two to the head in the subsequent revival.
	See my fiance and I've been listening to the show since episode one and have never donated.
	We're such old listeners.
	In fact, I remember Adam screaming, put away your Ken doll.
	Wow, I don't even remember that.
	I don't either.
	And say it to each other often enough for a good chuckle.
	When did we say that?
	What was the reference to put away your Ken doll?
	Clearly the amount of boner you're dealing with here requires that you drone me.
	Using the explosion sound that Adam has recently acquired before the de-douching, as I do not deserve karma, I simply ask that you give my fiancée Jerry a birthday shout-out for his 41st on Friday so she gets a...
	An explosion and a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	David G. Nichman in Severn, Maryland, 6583.
	I'd love the show.
	If it wasn't for you guys, I'd still be a mindless sheep.
	Can I get a de-douching two to the head and a squirrel?
	Sure.
	You've been de-douched.
	Tight.
	Yeah, that was a good one.
	Dan Tulls in Fremont, Michigan.
	Hey guys, I appreciate all the work.
	I've been listening for a couple of months, so I don't know if a dedouching is in order.
	Regardless, I knew it was time to donate when my fiancé and her roommates were watching Katajan last weekend upon Sanjay Gupta's cameo beginning.
	I lost it enough to be removed from the room.
	And this does happen when you listen to No Agenda.
	You do get shunned from social circles.
	What a piece of pro-vaccine propaganda bullcrap.
	My donation is a lame attempt to recreate 6-13-2012.
	My wedding day with an aforementioned fiancé.
	I request wedding planning and execution karma for us and Adam Mickey.
	Thanks again.
	Continued later.
	Alright.
	Well, thank you very much.
	So let me hit you with some karma there.
	And be careful because you will get shunned from social circles.
	It's dangerous.
	You've got karma.
	Shane Pettin in Cartersville, Georgia, 5678.
	Please accept a small donation as a token of our greatest and undying love for the show.
	We will save you the long and complex soundboard combination that we have argued over requesting.
	And only as you give our wives, Sarah and Lauren, that's One Hot Milf Baby, shout out, which will buy their allegiance to the show for the rest of our lives.
	Please shamelessly plug the WeWearKakis.com.
	WeWearKakis.com.
	Best podcast in the universe.
	That's One Hot Milf Baby.
	A classic.
	Steven Govero in Oxfas.
	Oxfas, Missouri?
	Missouri.
	By the way, I got a letter for somebody to say, you know, you don't have to pronounce it Missouri.
	Nobody does that except the TV announcers in Missouri.
	I can't get off it now.
	Scott Car...
	Scott Carbin, Waterford, Michigan, 5510.
	Let me get some karma for my aunt with cancer.
	She's doing well, but I'll keep asking until it's gone since donations are down.
	Now it's a summer must, yes.
	How about some shut-up-sleeve girl karma for anyone who ups their recurring donation by $2 or more within 12 hours of listening to this episode?
	Sorry if I'm behind my phone, stop connecting to the internet, so I'm re-familiarizing myself with how to put podcasts on my MP3 player while it's 1,700 miles away for repair, about 300 miles south of Adam.
	Oh, really?
	Mexico?
	Anyway, you were ripping on World War Z, so I thought I'd say that the book is pretty good.
	I wonder personally if maybe the story's popularity was unexpected and now someone important is paying attention to it.
	I'll be interested to see which interviews in the book made it to the movie.
	Yeah, I can't find this.
	We looked for that last week.
	I've lost the kid saying, shut up, slave.
	Well, that stinks.
	Yeah, it totally stinks.
	You have it.
	It's on the machine somewhere.
	The only one I've got is this one.
	I've got...
	Good morning.
	I don't know what happened to it.
	Isn't it at the end of that clip?
	No.
	No, that's a different kid.
	I feel really bad.
	Do you think you erased it?
	It's possible.
	It's possible.
	I'll look on your backup disc.
	Yeah, I'm going to give a little karma and I'll look for that one in the meantime.
	You've got karma.
	Sir Andrew Gardner, our racer from Avenue, Maryland, 5312.
	We've got a race coming up.
	We're going to get some adios mofo karma.
	Okay.
	I mean, I can't do all this at the same time.
	Adios mofo karma.
	All right.
	Adios mofo.
	You've got karma.
	Did I do something wrong?
	Is this my computer going off?
	Yeah, that's you.
	That's not...
	What...
	I've got a video that's self-playing out of the blue.
	It's like I'm stuck here with this.
	I've got to start shutting stuff down.
	I've got some self-starting video.
	Are you watching Mevio?
	No, I can't find it.
	I killed something that did it.
	It was on GigaOM site.
	That stuff's getting pretty annoying.
	Yeah.
	Well, what's weird is to have it delayed and then start like a half an hour later.
	Yeah.
	That's pretty funny.
	Okay, anyway, he's got some...
	You gave him the mofo karma.
	I did.
	He'll send pics.
	Jason Johnson, 5272.
	Sebastian Lambinon.
	One of the two.
	Alicante, Spain, I think.
	Love the show, but how about enjoying the wedding?
	But how about enjoying the wedding and the both of you taking a couple weeks off?
	Enjoy while you can.
	Cheers.
	From Alicante and sunny but desperately bankrupt Spain.
	Wow.
	Yeah, we'll see how they do.
	Sean Reed in Bethlehem, Georgia, 5150.
	First time donor, long time boner from Bethlehem, Georgia.
	Got a raise, decided it's time to stop giving the money to fast food joints and donate to the best podcast in the multiverse.
	I'm donating 5150 because it's a fine Van Halen album.
	So what if I like Van Hagar?
	Is that a crime?
	Don't drone me, bro.
	As I'm sure you know, it's also the California Penal Code allowing for the involuntary detention of mentally disabled, a.k.a.
	shut up and get in the car, slave.
	I'd like to call out to Pancake as a boner.
	Mostly because I told him if I donated, I donated before he would.
	Okay, well, these guys have their personal grudges.
	He does bring up such a good point about the fast food joint.
	You know, Christina and I, when I was in LA, she said, I want to go see the movie Moonrise Kingdom, which is actually a delightful movie.
	And we went to see it at Arclight.
	This was just like during the day, 2 o'clock in the afternoon, $27.50 for two tickets.
	Wow.
	$27.50?
	What?
	Yeah.
	That's a matinee.
	$27.50.
	$25.
	No, no, for two tickets.
	$27.50 for two tickets.
	I know, it should be $5 a piece.
	Yeah.
	And it was a fun movie to watch, but did they get as much enjoyment as a no-agenda show?
	I think not.
	I doubt it.
	Megan Costello in Pittston, Pennsylvania.
	It's 50 in the morning.
	Father's Day is this week, and so my sister Kayla and I wanted to donate to the show.
	You know, Father's Day is coming up, right?
	Yeah, that's Sunday.
	Yeah, and we're both fathers, aren't we?
	Just saying.
	Don't you think that maybe people should, you know, help us help the show out and give a Father's Day donation?
	Just saying.
	Joe is the...
	Boy, we both did it.
	We're at an all-time low now.
	Yeah, I don't like saying it.
	Joe is a huge fan of the show.
	He's also on behalf of his dad, Joe Costello.
	Donate to the show on behalf of your father.
	There you go.
	Joe is a huge fan of the show, and he's also a longtime listener and contributor.
	Thanks to our dad, our entire family tunes in for our weekly dose of media assassination, sexy twice a week.
	Even though my sister and I are both far away from home, your show brings us all together.
	You're the greatest podcast in the universe.
	Our whole family could use a massive karma shot for the summer.
	Our dad, no doubt, deserves to have a great Father's Day.
	Our mom is finishing up her teaching certification.
	My sister Kayla is studying for the LSAT, and I'm taking the bar exam in July.
	Wow.
	How our dad, a doctor, ended up with two lawyers, I'll never know.
	Happy Father's Day to both of you and keep up the great work with the show.
	Megan and Kayla Costello.
	Here's some family karma.
	You've got karma.
	There's a couple of daughters that know what they're doing.
	Yeah.
	Peter Mulroy in Brooklyn, New York, $50 in honor of Father's Day.
	Another one, I'd like to make a donation to my father's name, Tom.
	He's a few episodes behind, so I think if you read this Thursday, he will hear it Sunday, maybe.
	But first, he must pay the price.
	He has been a douchebag boner.
	Douchebag.
	Since I turned him on to the show months ago, please call him out as such and follow it quickly with a de-douching.
	Nothing says I love you, Dad, like a crisp, refreshing de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	Oh, that's Pete the Teach.
	Yeah, Pete the Teacher.
	Pete the Teach.
	Matthew John Carey, parts unknown, $50.
	Adam Prebola, prebola, or prebola, it's got to be prebola, in Plymouth, Michigan.
	Keep up the DSC. Love every NH show, especially the recent episodes with John reading drunk emails.
	Well, you've got to donate drunk to get the drunk donation.
	Can I get some general purpose karma?
	Yes, of course.
	It's good for all kinds of adhesive purposes.
	You've got karma.
	Alan Covado III in Midlothian, Virginia.
	Midlothian?
	Yeah.
	$50.
	Last email with the Romney photo from Fox with your commentaries worth $50.
	Oh, that's the one we just sent out.
	That was the email we sent for everyone's on the newsletter list.
	And by the way, I'll have to read.
	I'm going to go back maybe at the end of the show and read some nasty notes somebody sent me.
	So now go back.
	Now go play the stupid slide whistle for me.
	How about a karma after all these years of donating?
	Yeah, of course.
	Happy to.
	Play the stupid slide whistle, Dvorak.
	You've got karma.
	You know, I think your slide whistle needs tuning.
	Slight whistles don't need tuning.
	I do.
	No.
	Sir Mike Westerfield, $50.
	Michael Siegenthaler, Thomasville, Georgia.
	I think they make furniture there.
	$50.
	Senior skits here.
	Here's another fitty.
	Senior.
	Oh, it says senior.
	Well, I think it's senior.
	Whatever.
	Here's another fitty.
	Give yourselves a karma shot on me, okay?
	Thank you.
	We'll take it.
	You've got karma.
	Eric Schimmick in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
	$50.
	John is right about adding trillions of dollars to the money supply.
	That's a good discussion topic.
	Keep it up.
	And by the way...
	We both agree.
	As long as the trillions of dollars go to the webcam girls, then I think we have a fair bailout.
	Well, no one's going to complain.
	Thomas Riz, unless they all retire, Thomas Rizgaard in Nuremberg Ring.
	I don't know.
	This is just a bunch of symbols.
	Is it Nuremberg Ring?
	It doesn't work on...
	Nuremberg Ring.
	It's Nuremberg Ring where the racetrack is.
	Yeah, it doesn't work on mine.
	Yeah, it doesn't work on my spreadsheet.
	$50.
	He probably sent a note in.
	If you send a note in and you don't get read because you sent it in separately, we don't catch it all the time.
	Send us another note.
	If you wanted karma.
	Creative Cretan in Los Angeles, California, $50.
	Creative Cretan.
	Justin from Culver City, actually.
	Hang in there, guys.
	I can personally guarantee that big money is coming soon.
	I've got a major project in the works, and I would like to underwrite you.
	And do other stuff under Adam, if you know what I mean.
	What?
	I don't know.
	I'm not going to ask.
	What?
	Hey, Adam, how do you like to settle that curiosity?
	Oh, hey, send pictures.
	Anyway, I've donated 50 bucks and hope you keep the show going long enough over the summer so I can at least abuse you for a few cheap plugs.
	Hold on a second.
	Don't make it worth your while.
	Keep up the amazing work.
	First of all, hold on, stop.
	Stop with the brakes on.
	What?
	He's giving me code.
	He's a bottom, which is good.
	I don't know.
	I think mine might be more bottom than top.
	Anyway, but it's going to take more than 50 bucks.
	I'm no cheap bitch.
	Tristan Wilson-Kerrigan, Tideberry, Western Australia, 50.
	And also Matthew John Kerry, Eastwood, South Australia, 50.
	And that'll summarize and end our...
	We want to thank profusely all the people that helped us do show 417 with their...
	I hope you go to Dvorak.org slash NA for Father's Day.
	Looking for some Father's Day love for your father.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. ChannelDvorak.com slash NA. NoAgendaShow.com and NoAgendaNation.com.
	Hit the donation button on those sites and you'll be ready to go.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. I just picked a couple out of, because, you know, once again, we've had a lot of existing donors check in today, and we really need other people who have not donated to the show but understand that they are getting some value to evaluate the value and then contribute to the program.
	So I want to thank people who didn't hit the $50 level.
	In fact, this one was from Aaron.
	He says he really has no money, but he's jumping on with a monthly subscription.
	I've got an interesting date for you to look at.
	Stuxnet, apparently, It dies on June 24, 2012.
	That is the kill date of Stuxnet, so we might want to celebrate that one if you think about it.
	There you go.
	That's all I got.
	That's it?
	Yeah, that's all I got.
	But we really appreciate the monthly donors who come in under $50.
	We appreciate all of the support that you give us, particularly in these slower months during the summer.
	And I am still looking for a Hot Pockets 2009 tour.
	We're running out of time.
	Still looking for a trailer to haul out of Texas for Ms.
	Mickey and I to sleep in so we can make our trek up north.
	We plan on going through Colorado.
	And all the way up to Montana and looping them back around for the 2009 tour.
	What is not helpful is people sending me pictures of really cool-looking vehicles that I can buy.
	It's like, hey, man, look at this thing.
	This is great.
	It only costs $50,000.
	Look at this cool truck, man, this conversion.
	No, this is not helpful.
	We need something we can hook up to the truck here.
	You're just poking my eyes is what you're doing.
	It's not great.
	Value for value.
	The one thing we guarantee is that we are not compromised.
	That is what you are supporting by supporting this program.
	It's your birthday, birthday!
	Yahoo!
	On No Agenda!
	Nicholas Killam congratulates himself.
	He is celebrating his birthday today.
	And Don Rosakis says happy birthday to her fiancé, Jerry.
	He turns 41 on Friday.
	Happy birthday for your buddies here at the No Agenda Show!
	It's your birthday, yeah!
	A two.
	A two, a two.
	Um...
	Well, I think we should just move to Europe for a second.
	Well, let's see.
	Are you turning to your Europe page?
	No, no.
	I print out the page of clips.
	When I get over 10, it's better to print them out.
	And then when we do one, I can cross it off so I can find the clips.
	Oh, okay.
	You got clips.
	I got some clips.
	Well, let me do one little clip.
	There's a little light clip that kind of will lead into Europe because it kind of goes through Chris Matthews through Andrew Sullivan, who is a British monarchist, and that will get this into Europe because this little clip I wanted to get out of the way, which is Chris Matthews got some syndicated show, and he had Katie Kaye, this woman from the BBC, and Andrew Sullivan, who I did not realize is actually just a monarchist.
	I thought he was a Republican.
	I have no idea.
	Shall we listen to him speak?
	Yeah, tell me what you think of this commentary.
	She's talked to every Prime Minister since Churchill.
	I mean, she knows and has had a lot of experience.
	I think that the remarkable thing about England and the monarchy is the role of women in it.
	That the three greatest British monarchs, Elizabeth, Victoria and Elizabeth, have lasted longer than all the men.
	And they have all shown this remarkable sort of tenacity, this female tenacity.
	Thatcher as well, right?
	No, because Thatcher was a political figure.
	And the great thing about the monarchy is that the head of state is not a political figure.
	That she represents a human being.
	Excuse me for a living, but as an American, I put them all in the same bag.
	It's not true.
	And this is why Britain's monarchy is superior in many ways.
	Are these people who are in the throne, are they superior to the average British person?
	No, the system works because you have, you channel all your patriotism into this person, into this family.
	So you don't have a flag worship, you don't have polarization.
	What an a-hole.
	I've met the queen.
	I've met the queen.
	I stared right into her eyes.
	I hung out with enough Brits over the time.
	There are huge cadres of monarchists and people that hate the monarchy.
	Yeah.
	It's ridiculous.
	I just don't understand the monarch.
	I don't get it, why people think it's so great to have this sort of, this invites nothing but abuse.
	Because people like to be abused, and they like the person who's abusing them to be matronly.
	I can't see it any other way.
	Look, I don't live there, it's not my country, so God bless them if that's what they like.
	No, that's fine.
	But I think it's kind of weird for an old lady to be riding around in a golden carriage, waving at you, and you know that they're all laughing.
	Don't you feel like a stupid slave when you do that?
	I don't know.
	Minimally a serf.
	What?
	A serf?
	Minimally a serf or a peasant.
	Right, a serf.
	A serf.
	So the reason we bring up Europe, of course, is this Sunday on Father's Day, we have the final vote for Greece, which everyone's saying, oh, this could determine if it's going to happen or not.
	You know, we have people extracting money from the Greek banks.
	Of course, now we have Spain on deck.
	Spain, where also bank runs are taking place, is not really being reported on properly.
	But I think this is all a big smoke screen for the true problem that is coming, and that would be Italy.
	I think Italy is really where the danger lies for the Euro, and now their bonds are up to over 6%, I believe.
	Before we continue with any clips, I think that this is going to affect my decision-making on Euro 2012, the current...
	Soccer, football competition going on in Eurozone, Euroland.
	It was very funny to see the Netherlands play against Germany.
	Again, I have a lot of ties to the Netherlands, so I was watching the tweets.
	Actually, I found the game on ESPN. I was able to catch the second half.
	That must have been thrilling.
	Well, the despair.
	I mean, the game, who gives a crap?
	But then seeing the Dutch people just like...
	Melt is kind of funny because they lost.
	Germany kicked their ass.
	And I think that I'm narrowing it down now to, based upon socioeconomic conditions, who will run this match.
	And by the way, if you look at the referees in this match, we've got a Swedish millionaire who's a referee, a German banker who's a referee.
	And throwing these matches is not that hard if you have a ref who's in on the game and you have a player who's in on the game.
	Ronaldo, by the way, heralded as the world's best player, I would say.
	Portugal won their match, but Ronaldo was so disappointed.
	This guy, it looked like he was throwing the game.
	He was really trying to throw it.
	He kept missing, literally air balls.
	He would kick and wouldn't even connect with the ball.
	And I think he's probably in on it.
	And at the end of the game, he was...
	Ronaldo, the great Brazilian.
	Yeah, and at the end, he was lying in the goalie area with his head in the ground, even though they won.
	And people are saying, oh, it's because he played so poorly.
	No, I think that they were supposed to lose the match and he messed up.
	He was trying to do his worst and the team was just on and they won.
	And I think that he's not getting his payout or something.
	So I'm going to say, in the finals, I'm looking at three teams at this point.
	Russia, Germany, and Italy.
	Italy would need it.
	If the money is going to give a country a boost, then it would be Italy.
	I think the Russians are still out to prove a point that they basically are your rulers and shut up or we'll turn off your gas.
	And Germany, of course, just wants to win because they want to win everything anyway.
	So I'm looking at those three teams, and I think by Sunday I can probably make my final prediction for the winner of Euro 2012.
	If you're interested in the socioeconomic conditions of the rigged Euro 2012, which I believe is rigged, then you can weigh in at euro2012.curry.com.
	Christine Lagarde, who I now think is the most dangerous woman in the world, was on...
	Oh, again, with Christiana Anampur, because she has credibility, even though she worked for the compromised ABC. She came in and did a little chat, and of course, her entire job is to kill the Eurozone.
	I'm convinced of that now.
	This is why she had to kick out Dominique Strauss-Kahn, which they did with the fake hooker story.
	Always works.
	Hilarious.
	And it is her job.
	She intends to kill the euro so the dollar can remain the reserve currency in the world.
	And she spoke briefly about her buddy George, that would be Soros, who she just refers to as George, and the three-month deadline for the euro to collapse.
	Do you agree with George Soros' assessment that there's three months to save the euro?
	George is very good at setting, you know, sort of deadlines.
	Yes, he does it in the club all the time.
	And attracting the attention, which is good.
	It's good.
	It's good.
	It's very good.
	It's good he sets three months.
	I don't have to.
	It's good.
	There has to be attention paid to the current situation.
	Oh, I like the pregnant pause, by the way.
	There has to be attention paid.
	But I think, you know, it needs to happen, various things need to happen shortly.
	Shortly.
	Such as?
	What we've just been discussing.
	Shortly, yeah.
	Shortly.
	Shortly.
	More shortly than three months, I would say.
	Oh, even better!
	But it's not to say that there is a deadline and that the whole situation is...
	I'm not saying there's a deadline, but shorter than three months, shortly.
	I think the construction of the Eurozone has taken time.
	And it will take a little three months to kill it.
	And it's work in construction at the moment.
	Work in deconstruction.
	What are you talking about?
	It keeps being improved and amended and strengthened over time.
	Markets are finding it too slow, and clearly that's the message that is being delivered.
	So there's your message.
	Within three months, the euro will fall apart.
	There's your timeline.
	It'll be less than three months.
	George Soros, nice guy, funny timelines, but here's what nobody's talking about.
	It'll be less than three months.
	I'm Christine Lagarde, and I tell you what's happening.
	She, of course, made a lot of people angry by saying, hey, these Greek slaves, you've got to pay your taxes.
	And it turns out she doesn't pay taxes at all because she has diplomatic immunity and I guess belongs to no state, so she doesn't have to pay taxes.
	So here she is, let them eat cake, let them pay their taxes, shut up slaves, and this was brought up in the interview.
	You've been asked about what is ailing Greece, and you've been asked to comment on the personal pain that many Greeks are feeling, and you commented that, you know, from your point of view, it would be much better if the Greeks paid their taxes, and that that would...
	That would fix things.
	Do you still stand by that?
	Let me put it that way.
	I have respect for Greece, for the Greek population, and I'm very sorry that my comments were taken in a very inflammatory way and created offense.
	It was offensive!
	I very much regret.
	Wasn't it not offensive to say, pay your taxes, you cheap bastards?
	Yeah, exactly.
	I think that tax compliance is a necessary tool to restore any country's situation, Greece like others.
	Tax compliance.
	Ah, lovely.
	So here's the rub for those of you who, for some reason, may not be getting any information from your television.
	So, Bain...
	Bain is getting a sale out for 100 billion euros, but they won't have the same restrictions or heavy austerity that Ireland and Greece and what's the other one I'm thinking of?
	Portugal, I think?
	Yeah, probably.
	So they're all pissed off.
	Everybody's mad that Spain got a better deal.
	But again, and just so you know, Moody's, who of course are complicit in all of this, it's just a commercial operation.
	Moody's just came out last night, has slashed...
	Spain's credit rating to BAA-3, which is one notch above junk status.
	So they're going to go down.
	That still, I don't think, will kill the Eurozone.
	It will be Italy.
	And also interesting to note that the, what is the currency, the Oanda, O-A-N-D-A, is that familiar to you?
	Nope.
	Oh.
	O-N-A-D-A. Apparently that's a foreign exchange exchange?
	O-N-A-D-A? Mm-hmm.
	Well, let's just take a look at the book of knowledge.
	Mm-hmm.
	They put on their website, Due to extreme volatility, some market analysts foresee...
	Oh, the 4S, 4X. Okay.
	They will not be accepting any trading activity on Sunday, June 17th.
	Well, duh.
	Duh.
	That's when Greece has its vote.
	So I think they're getting ready.
	And of course, there's talk now about the ATMs, you know, limiting the amount of cash you can get.
	I mean, it's a total setup.
	You could not make it any worse.
	Say, oh, you know, we may have to ration how much money you can have.
	We're going to close foreign exchanges.
	We've got Christine Lagarde, the lizard lady, out there saying, oh, you know, less than three months.
	This is all a setup to make it crash.
	And Nigel Farage, I don't have to ask the question.
	I know you want to hear it.
	Right?
	Who?
	I don't even know who you're talking about.
	Nigel Farage.
	No, no, it doesn't ring a bell.
	Another one bites the dust.
	Country number four, Spain, gets bailed out.
	And we all, of course, know that it won't be the last.
	Though I wondered over the weekend whether perhaps I was missing something.
	Because when the Spanish Prime Minister, Mr Rajoy, got up, he said that this bailout shows what a success the Eurozone has been.
	And I thought, well, having listened to him over the previous couple of weeks telling us there wouldn't be a bailout, I've got the feeling after all his twists and turns, he's just about the most incompetent leader in the whole of Europe.
	And that's saying something, because there's pretty stiff competition.
	Indeed, every single prediction of yours, Mr.
	Barroso, has been wrong.
	And dear old Herman Van Rompuy, well, he's done a runner, hasn't he?
	Because the last time he was here, he told us we'd turn the corner, that the Euro crisis was over and he hasn't bothered to come back and see us.
	You know, I remember being here ten years ago and hearing the launch of the Lisbon Agenda.
	We were told that with the Euro by 2010, we would have full employment and indeed that Europe would be the competitive and dynamic powerhouse of the world.
	By any objective criteria, the Euro has failed.
	And in fact, there is a looming, impending disaster.
	You know, this deal makes things worse, not better.
	100 billion is put up for the Spanish banking system.
	And 20% of that money has to come from Italy.
	And under the deal, the Italians have to lend to the Spanish banks at 3%.
	But to get that money, they have to borrow on the markets at 7%.
	This, by the way, is the best explanation of the ESM I've ever heard.
	And that is exactly right.
	That is how the European Stability Mechanism works.
	Instead of the country that is broke borrowing money because they can't because no one wants to invest in them, the other countries have to borrow money at 7% and then they get paid back at 3%.
	It's a genius system.
	It's genius, isn't it?
	It really is brilliant.
	So what we're doing with this package is we're actually driving countries like Italy towards needing to be bailed out themselves.
	In addition to that, we put a further 10% on Spanish national debt.
	And I tell you, any banking analyst will tell you 100 billion doesn't solve the Spanish problem.
	It would need to be more like 400 billion.
	And with Greece teetering on the edge, The real elephant in the room is that once Greece leaves, the ECB, the European Central Bank, is bust.
	It's gone.
	It has 444 billion euros worth of exposure to the bailed out countries.
	And to rectify that, you'll need to have a cash call from Ireland, Spain, Portugal, Greece and Italy.
	You couldn't make it up, could you?
	It is total and utter failure.
	This ship, the Euro Titanic, has now hit the iceberg, and sadly, there simply aren't enough lifeboats.
	The Euro.
	Wow.
	Yeah, that's what I said.
	Yeah.
	Right on.
	Yeah, not much you can do about it.
	Nope.
	This is nothing that we haven't been saying since four years ago.
	Yeah, exactly.
	2009, 2008.
	Yeah, I know.
	So, Panetta.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Panetta has a brick souvenir from the...
	Well, play the clip and you can hear what it is.
	It's like a scalp.
	It's a scalp.
	What's the...
	Oh, brick souvenir.
	Before it was torn down in February, the house was already short one brick.
	It's hanging on the wall of Panetta's office, a memento that CIA officers brought him, labeled with bin Laden's codename, Geronimo, Abbottabad, Pakistan.
	That's cool.
	That's a cool souvenir.
	That's a cool souvenir.
	They should have taken a whole bunch of those bricks.
	I think they should have taken his head stuffed.
	He should donate that brick to the Twitch studios.
	I have a big Geronimo brick sitting there.
	That's great.
	So there's a thing going on in Texas that fascinated me.
	It was on a 60-minute show.
	I didn't know anything about this.
	It's actually quite fascinating.
	You okay?
	I think I swallowed something.
	I'm going to die here.
	No.
	Play Hunting Wild Game Part 1.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	And by the way, stop.
	Now I'm expecting you to meet some of these guys and get some of this meat.
	It's a place that may surprise you.
	Tonight we're going to take you on a journey into a world that many people don't even know exists.
	To get the best view, we flew by helicopter over this vast terrain.
	From the air, we could see herds of African antelope and zebra charging across the wide open spaces.
	It looks remarkably like Africa, but it's not.
	This is Texas.
	Here in the Lone Star State, the iconic Texas Longhorn now shares the range with more than a quarter million animals from Asia, Africa, Europe.
	What is this, the History Channel?
	A quarter million.
	Yeah.
	Did you hear the number?
	Yeah.
	Well, that includes a bunch of extinct animals that they've been breeding in Texas so we can eat them.
	This is actually one of the most fascinating stories they've ever done, but they did this story as they were kind of aghast that we would be this way.
	But if you play, let's see, what we got?
	I got hunting fees.
	Play hunting fees and you'll get a clue about what this is all about.
	It's thanks to trophy hunters like Paul who come here in the thousands to hunt these animals every year, sold on the idea of an African hunting experience in Texas.
	It's open season on close to a hundred species of exotic game all the time here because exotic animals are considered private property.
	Paul allowed us to come with him as he went on this hunt if we agree to use only his first name.
	Here, he and the guide are searching for a scimitar-horned oryx for him to take home as a trophy.
	If they find one, it'll cost Paul $4,500.
	Other animals, like this dama gazelle, cost around $10,000.
	And the rarest, a Cape buffalo, has a $50,000 price tag.
	Exotic wildlife has become a billion-dollar industry in Texas, supporting more than 14,000 jobs.
	Oh, that's great.
	It was awesome.
	It sounds awesome, doesn't it?
	Yeah.
	It is.
	I'll bet you.
	She goes off on the guy, running a guilt trip on him.
	I got hunting, hunting.
	I think Hunter's Enemy final with a click.
	This is the last clip.
	And this one starts with a gun being cocked, which I thought was a cheap thing to do.
	And then I'll explain what's actually going on when this clip's over.
	Hunters are the main conservationists in this whole equation.
	Can you call yourselves conservationists when, you know, your purpose, your intent, the thing that's driving it is to hunt the animals and to kill them?
	Absolutely.
	That's why these animals thrive, is because of that value that they have to the hunting community.
	You know, just because people are willing to pay large amounts of money for those trophies doesn't make it right.
	I can't let these animals just freely roam around my ranch.
	I can't do it.
	I won't do it.
	Do you love these animals?
	Absolutely.
	How can you kill something you love?
	I can do that for the simple reason that I know it's for the welfare of every one of those animals.
	You sacrifice one so that many more Are born and raised from calves all the way up to the big trophy male or the big trophy females that we have.
	I think that's ludicrous.
	I think it's immoral and I don't think anybody's entitled to do that.
	Priscilla Ferrell is president of Friends of Animals, an international animal rights organization.
	For the past seven years, she's been fighting in court to stop these rare African antelope from being hunted in Texas.
	They're breeding these antelopes, they're selling the antelopes, and they're killing the antelopes.
	And they're calling it They're conserving them.
	They're saying it's an act of conservation.
	And that's lunacy.
	You would rather they did not exist in Texas at all?
	I don't want to see them on hunting ranches.
	I don't want to see them dismembered.
	I don't want to see their value in body parts.
	I think it's obscene.
	I don't think you create a life to shoot it.
	So if the animals exist only to be hunted, you would rather they not exist at all?
	Not in Texas, no.
	Our biggest enemy are the animal rights people.
	They don't understand what we do.
	What's to understand?
	I mean, you're hunters.
	You hunt these exotic animals.
	That's pretty simple.
	It is, but there are a faction of people out there that would just as soon see these animals go extinct as to have us use them to hunt.
	And after all, that is the bottom line.
	That's what these animals are all about.
	That's why they're here in the numbers that they're here today.
	Yeah, so I've become good friends with a lot of people here at the Austin Market, and I am being offered all kinds of things, because now they know I'm cool.
	Because this is a sustainability market, so you're not allowed to...
	I think the rules of the market are you're not allowed to sell something that you haven't raised yourself.
	And I'm not going to say who, because I know people are listening to the show.
	I don't want to rat anyone out, but it'd be funny if I told you who it was.
	I think I can get some antelope meat.
	Is that what you're asking?
	See if I can get some of that?
	Yes, I am.
	Okay.
	I think I can get some antelope meat and I will try on Saturday.
	I will send out the message.
	Let's go back to the story before we start dealing with the illegal meat.
	Is it illegal?
	Is it illegal to purchase?
	Well, only because of the FDA and, you know, it's not...
	This woman, first of all, let's get one thing straight.
	Let's ask a question.
	What's the difference between raising antelope in the Texas plains or raising cattle?
	You kill the cattle and you eat them.
	Yeah.
	What's the difference?
	They're pretty.
	What?
	They're pretty.
	Oh, they're pretty.
	They're like Bambi.
	They're pretty.
	Yeah.
	They got nice spiky horns.
	Yeah, they're pretty.
	The oryx, as a matter of fact, the one they mentioned, the scimitar-horned oryx, is extinct.
	Except in Texas, they got like 30 or 40,000, and they're doing very well for themselves, and people like to eat them.
	And they hunt them, and they have a head they can put in their den.
	This is horrible to these people, to these animal rights people.
	This is Agenda 21 stuff, by the way.
	Oh, totally.
	Yeah.
	So anyway, I watched this and you can see even Laura Logan, who is a douchebag, she's the one who hated the fact that she didn't get the bus McChrystal, if you remember, from some time ago.
	She's asking him these leading questions.
	Well, if you love an animal, why would you kill it and all this other bullcrap?
	You know, we do eat...
	Us non-vegetarians do have...
	We do eat flesh of these animals, whether it's a cow, a longhorn, a buffalo, a goat, whatever, or one of these exotic things.
	It doesn't really make any difference.
	And the fact is these guys are conservationists.
	And I get the sense that nobody really understands that conservationism, even when we have too many deer on an island over here in San Francisco Bay, we have to go out and kill them because...
	Eat them or not, because there's too many of them in some situations.
	And they become weak and die off.
	You have to manage these animals.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So, you know, I just found the whole thing to be offensive.
	I mean, there's this holier-than-thou attitude about what these guys are doing.
	And, in fact, if you think about it, most of the reason we have a lot of these animals at all is because of hunters.
	Ducks Unlimited are responsible for the duck population that flies all over the country because they like to hunt ducks and they want to make sure there's a lot of ducks to hunt.
	So they're incredible conservationists and anyone who's a duck hunter knows who they are and knows how important they are.
	This is nothing you try to slam or try to do a hit piece on like she did here.
	I found the whole thing offensive, even though if you listen to it objectively, you weren't going to feel it was a bad thing.
	But the little kicker in the story is that that woman that was quoted at the end has won the last court case in Texas.
	You're a great state, and they're going to now ban the shooting of those Oryxes.
	Which bring in $4,000 a piece to help continue this process.
	And now the guy says, I don't know if they were going to be able to keep these things anymore.
	So that extinct Oryx is probably, he says, going to go extinct again in 10 years if the new court case is upheld.
	This is a disaster going on in Texas and nobody's doing anything about it.
	Well, I'm glad you brought that up, John.
	I'll start paying attention to it.
	I agree 100% with what you're saying.
	I really do.
	And I will support the Oryx industry by scoring some of that meat, too.
	If you can.
	I think it may be illegal to shoot one.
	Yeah, I'm not big on doing that myself.
	I'm just a pussy that way.
	None of your buddies will do it, either.
	Yeah.
	No, my buddies will do it.
	The oryx is...
	It's a buffalo, right?
	It's a kind of buffalo?
	No, no, the oryx.
	No, no.
	I thought it was a kind of buffalo.
	It's a gorgeous antelope.
	How do you spell it?
	I think it's O-R-Y-X, maybe.
	It's like an antelope.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah, sure.
	With long horns.
	Looks tasty.
	It does look tasty.
	You know I'm going to go upstairs after the show.
	Miss Mickey's going to go...
	I don't like that.
	I don't want you to kill the beautiful oryx.
	Yeah, well, the oryx is going to kill us.
	It's going to be a dead, extinct species if it doesn't get killed.
	Actually, maybe she won't.
	None of these people get that.
	You have to kill these things.
	I mean, this guy tried to explain it, but she's a dummy.
	I don't know.
	It doesn't make sense to me.
	The oryx has kind of like a dumb-looking head.
	These animals aren't the brightest things in the world.
	It looks kind of stupid.
	They get gobbled up by lions and tigers all the time.
	I mean, it's not like they don't get killed.
	Yeah, well, people don't understand conservationism.
	They don't understand how it works.
	That's okay.
	To each his own, let her have some tasty Gitmo snacks.
	GMO. Eat that, that's fine.
	Take that, girl.
	That'll be good for you.
	Wow, good catch.
	Not clip of the day, but good catch.
	No, it's only clip of the day.
	I have a, before we get out of here, I have a theory on what happened with the Ron Paul campaign.
	This is bugging me so much.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it really is.
	It really is.
	A lot of people are getting bugged by this.
	Yeah.
	So, I think what, now, let's go back.
	Was that the MIAC report?
	Remember when the Department of Homeland Security was circulating documents about, you know, here's the lone wolves you have to be on the lookout for, here are the troublemakers?
	It included Ron Paul.
	Oh!
	Right.
	Ron Paul supporters.
	Now, if you want to put your homeland security drones to good use and if you want to stir up some crap in the country and you want to get people angry, we need, you know, maybe a new kind of Ruby Ridge or, you know, we need something to happen, a new Waco.
	You know, we need someone to go apeshit.
	Right?
	So we can really start implementing the police state.
	You know, we had...
	What's the other douchebag's name?
	Cass Sunstein, Sustine, whatever his name is.
	They all want to stir up some crap.
	Now, if you want to stir up some crap, you need a crap-upper stirrer.
	A crap-stirrer-upper.
	There it is.
	Crap-stirrer-upper.
	And I think I found him.
	In this year...
	The Ron Paul campaign said it was their pleasure to bring Trigeve Olsen on board as a senior spokesman.
	And that really hurt, and this is not necessarily my own theory, by the way.
	This is pieced together from other pieces.
	I'm following this.
	This is very interesting to me, what happened here.
	And this Trigeve Olsen is a very interesting fellow.
	So he came in and he became a senior advisor to the campaign.
	And I think that these advisors are the ones that have put this together with this Rand Paul nomination or endorsement of...
	Mitt Romney, Willard.
	So the same Trigee, and you spell it Tango Romeo Yankee Golf Victor Echo, Olson, O-L-S-O-N, worked for the Rand Paul campaign in 2010.
	He was the e-political director for John McCain in 2008.
	But here's what's interesting.
	He was a part of...
	How do you spell his first name again?
	Trigieve, T-R-Y-G-V-E. T-R-Y-G-V-E, okay.
	Before this, he was country manager for Belarus, or country director for Belarus, at the International Republican Institute.
	Now we know that this, along with the National, what is it, Democratic Endowment, what is that, the NDE or whatever, these are the big non-governmental organizations that send techno-experts out into the field to stir up revolutions.
	In fact, he was a part of the color revolutions that went on, and in particular he was literally stationed in Belarus.
	He is a professional crap-stirrer-upper.
	And for him to be working, these are really globalist organizations.
	This is the stuff that Hillary speaks at, and these are the ones that had all the techno experts in Egypt, that Egypt caught on to, and they said, screw it, you're not getting out, you guys are nothing but trouble.
	And for this kind of guy to be in the Ron Paul camp as a senior advisor, I think that the setup is to get people really disgruntled and angry, and there's a lot of them, and to get someone to go nuts.
	And this...
	Miss Mickey just texted me.
	Don't speak on my behalf.
	I get it.
	Sorry.
	Busted.
	How far back does this show lag?
	Yeah, the stream does lag a little bit.
	A little?
	Well, maybe she went out and hit the gym for a minute so she wouldn't come in here and beat me in the noggin.
	Well, you mock her as, oh, the cute little animals.
	No, I retracted it, but you talked over me.
	She didn't hear that part.
	I'm sorry, honey.
	I know.
	She's going to be the one scorer in the venison, trust me.
	She's going to be like, hey, hey, hey, give me some of that.
	You got any orcs?
	So I have a feeling that the crap stirruppers have been in the camp for a while, and this might have been a planned operation.
	And what would be the point?
	The original point is it's a cover operation to make sure Romney gets in.
	No, I think there's something else going on here.
	I think that we now have this group...
	Ron Paul's an idiot and he was screwed over by this whole scheme.
	Yes.
	And there's a very big group of people who clearly have been duped with the Romney endorsement.
	And they're angry.
	I mean, these are people who are very, very angry.
	And they're armed and they're seeing drones flying overhead and all kinds of crap.
	I think that they might stir something up, and you can, in fact, put it in the Red Book.
	We will see a lone wolf who was a Ron Paul supporter.
	You can put this in the Red Book.
	This is a very dangerous situation, I believe.
	I'm putting it in.
	I know you are.
	And this goes beyond the political scope.
	This is...
	The people who feel duped, and Ron Paul still has not come out and said anything.
	It's been, what, four days now?
	Five days?
	Nothing.
	A week?
	Nothing.
	Well, maybe.
	I'm very concerned.
	I'm very, very concerned.
	Cooler heads must prevail because that's when they will truly unleash the drones and the police state system will come into action.
	I just feel this.
	I can feel it in my bones.
	I'm not liking what I'm feeling.
	Okay, well, we'll get in the book.
	We'll see.
	I got one little thing to end.
	We got to keep track of this.
	The upcoming Mars One reality show.
	We got to do that.
	What?
	Play the clip.
	Mars One reality show?
	I don't see it in the list.
	It's right under John Hopkins commencement and above Panetta on defense budget.
	There we go.
	The company is offering you the chance to pick up and move to Mars.
	The idea is to first send robots to find a good site for a settlement there.
	Every two years after that another group will join the settlement to populate the colony.
	The company plans to pay for the whole thing by turning the whole process into a reality show.
	Is this for real?
	Yeah.
	Look it up.
	It's Mars One.
	It's a reality show?
	No, no.
	It's actually not.
	It's going to be a reality show.
	But the project is called Mars One.
	They want to put a colony on Mars.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, it was nice knowing you, John.
	I'm going to audition for this show.
	Yeah, that'd be great.
	I think you're a little too tall to get in the rocket.
	They're going to have to send little people up there.
	Human Mars Settlement.
	Ah, this is so lame.
	This is lame.
	They already got great bases on Mars.
	This is just teaching us that this is the stuff that's already real, has already been there.
	What, they have a frickin' video on their site as well?
	Oh my goodness.
	I can't believe you're the one that had to find this.
	This is so not you.
	Mars One will establish human settlement on Mars in 2023.
	In that year, the first group of four humans will land on Mars.
	I'm in!
	Every two years after that, another group will join the settlement.
	You know, have you seen the houses they've got?
	Yeah, what about them?
	I'd like one of those here.
	Yeah, well, yurts are nice too.
	Yurts?
	Yurt.
	Look at that.
	Yurt.
	Y-U-R-T. A yurt?
	Is that something I can live in?
	Y-U-R-T. Is that what I can live in?
	Yeah.
	You can live in a yurt.
	Let's see.
	California Yurt Company.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, these are beautiful.
	Go on your property as you build your...
	My container house?
	Destruction from boxcars.
	Yeah.
	Hey, baby.
	You want to come back and see my yurt?
	My yurt is so bitchin'.
	All right.
	I just want to finish it up.
	The New York City Board of Health showed its support for limiting sizes of sugary drinks at a meeting Tuesday in Queens.
	They agreed they're going to formalize the process of banning large drinks.
	In addition, at this meeting...
	Some of the members of the board said they are also considering limits on other high-calorie foods.
	Bruce Vladek, board member, thinks limiting sizes for movie theater popcorn should be considered.
	Another board member thinks that milk drinks should also fall under the size limits, such as milkshakes and milk coffee beverages, which have monstrous amounts of calories.
	You laughed at the smoking ban, you thought it was great, and here you go.
	It's salt, it's your popcorn, it's your milk drinks...
	And shut up, slave.
	Just shut up.
	Going back to Texas, I have a story.
	Sarah Tressler fired from a Texas newspaper.
	I can't find the name of the paper, but she was fired because she was a part-time stripper.
	And the newspaper apparently thinks that's no good.
	You can't do that and be a journalist.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Houston.
	She was in Houston, your favorite town.
	No, it's not my favorite.
	It's the Houston Chronicle.
	There you go, the Houston Chronicle.
	We know this guy.
	We have one of the guys on Twitter.
	What's his name?
	Dale?
	Dave?
	Dwayne?
	Dwight?
	Dwight.
	Dwight Silverman.
	I'm going to ask him specifically, how would he let this happen?
	Hold on, what's her name?
	Sarah Tressler.
	T-R-E-S-S-L-E-R. I bet you she's hot.
	Oh!
	Hello!
	And they don't want her around the newsroom?
	Give me a break.
	What are those guys, Unix?
	Apparently, that's the Houston Chronicle for you.
	What was her beat?
	They've always been called the ballest wonders of the newspaper business.
	What was her beat, so to speak?
	A high society.
	Oh!
	Hey, she can come and work for us.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	That's crazy.
	And by the way, I think that's illegal.
	She's suing him.
	There you go.
	Good on you, girl.
	A rival newspaper tipped off the Chronicle with an online blog titled Diary of an Angry Stripper.
	She is an NYU Journalism School graduate.
	Well, she can come and work for noagendanewsnetwork.com.
	Own the place for all I care.
	And I'll hook her up with a webcam.
	Thank you, darling.
	You still love me, obviously.
	You want to see my yurt?
	That would be a no.
	All right, everybody.
	Thanks again to all the guys for getting the stream up and running.
	I know that was a little complicated for them.
	And Sunday, Father's Day, June 17th, Grexit Day.
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