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We are happy No Agenda slaves.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, April 12, 2012.
Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 3, Niner Niner.
This is No Agenda.
Self-diagnosing my pervasive developmental disorder here at Camp MoFo in the capital of the drone star state, Austin Tejas.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
That's easy for you to say.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where it was raining cats and dogs, and we've got a dog in the house.
I'm John C. DeVore.
It's Crackball and Buzzkill!
In the morning!
Okay.
You've always had a dog in the house.
This one came in from out of the rain, up from the rain.
It was raining cats and dogs.
Oh, I see.
I'm sorry.
I didn't understand the joke.
Got it.
Got it.
It wasn't much of a joke.
Yeah.
It's bad weather out there, huh?
Well, last night, jeez.
Yeah?
I think it must be some flooding around here after that.
Squall.
Yeah, we've got a little bit of cloud today.
That means it's raining cats and dogs.
We get a few gerbils.
Well, put up a cistern.
A what?
You know, get a tank.
I've been looking into these.
They're illegal in Denver.
No, no, they're very legal here.
These rain catch systems?
Oh, man.
Oh, they're great.
Does anyone use them?
Tons of people.
Yeah.
It's on-demand purification systems, and you can drink it.
You can do anything you want.
It's pretty cool.
People are way into it here.
Got to get me one of those.
In fact, I hate to say it, but if we're fortunate enough to be able to build a new Camp MoFo, I want the full spectrum, man.
I want a windmill.
I want solar.
I want a nuke.
Yeah, because, you know, I don't know if you noticed it, but the Agenda 21 stuff is really kicking in, man.
Jenny, Jenny, Jenny, don't go by that man's house.
He's crazy.
Jenny, no, Jenny, Jenny.
Mommy, I just want to see inside.
Yeah, it won't be hard.
It'll be all glass.
Look in there.
They wear clothes.
They're from some foreign country.
They don't wear clothes.
Yeah.
No, seriously, this is...
Did you hear this?
Did you know that British Columbia already has the carbon tax?
It does?
Yeah, check this report out.
And this is all Agenda 21 stuff, and the report is a complete...
And if you don't know what Agenda 21 is, you've got to Google that.
Consult a book of knowledge.
Yeah, this is the show more.
Yeah, really.
Where have you been?
Welcome.
The whole report is making you feel good about carbon taxes...
Well, just listen to it.
You can blame, in part, some made-in-B.C. levies, including, at five and a half cents a liter, the carbon tax.
Vahram Dagestani feels the impact filling up his car and paying the bills for his trucking company.
That hurts us a lot, you know?
Every cent counts when you're a small business owner in Canada.
You know, you're trying to save dollars.
But taxes are taxes.
There's no way of getting it.
They'll get us some way, one way or another, right?
Yeah, slave!
Though even at the pumps, it's not hard to find people who say it's a good tax.
It's supposed to be our duty as citizens to support the environment.
Hey, citizens, hold on a second.
Hey, citizens, support the environment.
Things like that, so I'm fine with that.
I'm fine with that.
The provincial liberals introduced it to encourage people to use less gas.
We promised you green, and today we deliver green.
We promised you green.
The opposition NDP wanted to axe the tax, but they lost the election.
And now, more than two years after it came into effect...
Do we know, has the carbon tax at the pumps had an impact?
Well, we think it has.
Our preliminary figures show that, in fact, the fuel use per capita here in British Columbia has fallen, compared to other regions across Canada.
You see, the way I see it, John...
Because you're going broke, you idiot!
Exactly!
So I looked this up.
Yeah, we're in a full depression, so the gasoline usage has gone way down.
That's a good thing.
It's good.
So the Green Party, British Columbia, their current pricing is $50 per ton of CO2 emissions.
And I looked at their FAQ. Why $50?
Well, because $50 is the tax on something that produces one ton of CO2 emissions.
One liter of gas produces 2.34 kilograms of CO2, so $50 per ton adds about 12 cents to the pump price per liter.
Hold on a second.
Even though we just heard five a second ago.
Give me that calculation again.
One liter of gas.
That's petrol in this case.
Gasoline.
Produces 2.34 kilograms of CO2. How does that work?
That's not right.
No, that can't be, because one liter is one kilo.
No, a liter's not a kilo.
Yes, it is.
No, a liter is a volumetric amount.
It's not a weight amount.
One liter of gasoline...
Well, let's find out.
Consult the book of knowledge.
One liter of gasoline...
I wonder what a liter of gasoline weighs.
Equals...
I'm going to find out.
How many kilograms?
I think it's one, dude.
No, it's not one dude.
Dude!
0.71...
A liter of gasoline weighs 0.76 kilograms.
So how can it produce...
2.3 kilograms of CO2. Three times as much.
Is that science?
The science is in.
Is that possible?
The science is in.
Science!
Science!
So, well, all right.
I'm not a scientist, so I don't know, but that seems like a lot.
Okay, well, here's a fueleconomy.gov.
Our own government tells us the following.
How can a gallon of gasoline produce 20 pounds of carbon dioxide?
The government has asked.
Hold on, hold on.
The science is in!
That's how it's done.
It's absolutely possible that a gallon of gasoline, which weighs about 6.3 pounds, could produce 20 pounds of carbon dioxide when burned.
However, most of the weight of the CO2 doesn't come from the gasoline, but from the oxygen in the air.
When the gasoline burns, the carbon and hydrogen separate.
The hydrogen combines with oxygen to form water, H2O, and the carbon combines with oxygen to form carbon dioxide, CO2.
Carbon, and it goes on with the calculation.
All right.
I think it's bogative.
Yeah.
So is the tax, is this just a tax grab?
Second question on the FAQ. Of course it's a tax grab.
No!
The Green Party proposes tax shifting.
What are they going to do with the money, the Green Party?
Are they getting the money?
Here it is.
The money raised by a carbon tax will be used to reduce other taxes, like income and payroll taxes.
When has that ever happened?
Oh really?
So of course what is going to happen is everything gets more expensive and just keeps on getting more expensive.
It doesn't do anything but get more expensive.
Everyone's raising their prices of everything.
This is a total bug.
I had no idea that the British Columbia was on board with this.
And then, I mean, there's just so much Agenda 21 stuff, John.
It's like Berkeley North.
Well, then I find this challenge from the White House.
Are you ready?
Developers, get ready!
It's a big challenge!
Build an app!
Have you heard about this?
No.
The app.
I wanted to say app.
You gotta go to appsforenergy.challenge.gov.
And so you can build an app.
Here, the U.S. Energy Department's Apps for Energy is offering $100,000 to software developers for the best new apps that help utility customers make the most of their green button electricity usage data.
Again, it's just more, it's like trying to hippify the fact that you're getting screwed.
You know, I'm getting screwed on this, but I've got an app that makes me feel good.
Well, this is that idiot Secretary Chu, the Nobel Prize winning physicist who's now a government bureaucrat and he wants all the gasoline prices in the United States, he said so publicly at least twice, to be the same as it is in Europe so we can feel the pain.
The guy is a complete washout.
They should get rid of him.
Are you on this website?
No, I can't get to it.
I got energy.gov.
No, no, no.
Secretary Chu launches first ever Apps Energy Challenge press release.
Is there a link there?
Because you've got to go to Apps for Energy.
I've been trying it.
I can't find it.
Energy Department launches Apps for Energy.
You know where that little bar at the top of your browser is?
I can't get out of energy.gov.
I tried that and I get a note that doesn't show up.
Apps for Energy, all one word?
Yes.
.challenge.gov.
You didn't say.challenge.
I sure did.
Don't make me rewind the tapes.
You can rewind the tape and you won't find it.
I said appsforenergy.challenge.gov.
Don't argue with me.
So it's under challenge.gov.
I didn't know there was a site called challenge.gov.
So I want you to take a look at this.
This is very important because I found some funny stuff here.
Well, since you're on the site, you apparently have brought it to its knees.
It won't load.
Really?
The two other people in the chat room have gone to it.
And the thing is jammed.
It's sunk.
Really?
I brought challenge.gov to its knees.
Really?
You think?
I don't think so.
Okay, here we go.
I got a mistake.
Are you with me?
Almost.
I'm getting there.
All right.
All right, I'm looking at it.
Okay, you're there.
Good.
Challenge post.
There's another $8 million ripoff, I'll bet.
Now, do you see the partners tab?
Yeah.
Okay, click on the Partners tab.
What do you see over there?
What's the first thing that jumps out at you?
A, G, and E. Well, how about on the left?
Grid 21.
So we click on that, and you go to this Grid 21, which...
Empowering America.
Grid 21, empowering America.
So Grid 21 is a nationwide initiative to increase energy awareness and encounter smarter, more efficient usage by Americans, i.e.
pay more, slave.
Our goal is to bring the best practices to the energy grid, leading to reduced greenhouse gas emissions, decreased cost, and lower dependency on foreign oil.
So you see right here, we are currently building the Grid21 site.
Check back for more information.
So you can't find much about them.
There is a little about Grid21.
It's a new non-profit organization.
I might add there's absolutely no...
Do you think that 21 has to do with Agenda 21?
Yeah, you think maybe?
Yeah, you think maybe it could be?
So of course there's no information, but there's no Form 90s, 990s, nothing.
But it's a new non-profit organization committed to engaging electricity consumers in using a new generation of tools and technologies to better manage their electricity consumption.
So I'm like, who are these jabronis?
A little who-is gives us the following.
They are...
Registered in Washington, D.C., 1155 15th Street in Washington, D.C. So I'm like, I really want to find out who's behind this.
So there's not much to find out there.
What's the address again?
Doesn't matter.
You don't have to do it because I already got it.
So then I look at the registrar, and the registrar data goes to an outfit called Association Management Strategies.
Oh, these are the same as the Gridwise guys.
Well, what it is, is a full-service association management company, i.e.
lobbying firm.
Which provides management expertise and administrative services to industry associations, coalitions, professional societies, trade shows, and other special events.
And what they do, they literally say it here, located in Washington, D.C. at the same address as Grid 21, minutes away from most federal agencies for easy lobbying access, AMS will provide each client with its own identity as an autonomous association.
So it's basically, it's a front.
It's a front, and it's run by a company called Claim.org.
The International Claim Association.
Learn the way and claim excellence.
This thing is so deep.
State Anti-Fraud Training.
North American Training Group.
Find us on Facebook.
This is terrible.
Yes!
They have an education conference coming up, though, on September 30th in Orlando.
Spring meeting, by the way.
Hard Rock Hotel, San Diego, California.
Register now.
Since its founding in 1909, the International Claim Association, ICA, has been the forefront of addressing a broad range of life, health, and disability claim issues.
This is the exact same offices.
Yeah, it's all 1155 15th Street.
Yeah, Northwest Suite 500.
Yeah, I know.
It's the same suite.
I know.
The International Claim Association.
I know.
And then they're running on a.gov site?
Oh, yeah.
This is just scandalous.
And promoted on the White House website.
So I'm just seeing so much of this closing in on us.
And believe me, they are setting you up.
How come somebody doesn't bust these guys?
What do you think we're in business for, Johnny Boyd?
It's unbelievable.
That's what we're here for.
That's what we do.
Anyone out there can look it up.
Claim.
They got a good one, too.
They got in early.
Claim.org.
Nice, huh?
So this is propagating to condition the human resources of Gitmo Nation to get ready for sky-high pricing on everything.
And basically, you get all these little tchotchkes and apps and meters and dingleberry debts that make you feel good.
About being gouged, essentially.
And now they've come up with a new thing.
Essentially being gouged.
And the Canadians, what is wrong with you people?
This is why we have nobody that donates from BC, by the way.
Because they're broke.
They're broke.
And they don't get it.
Now listen to this.
This is the latest.
So if you take all this Agenda 21 stuff into play, I have a news clip here, which is of course from a PR agency.
And it shows you exactly the way your government wants you to live.
Are you ready for it?
This is going to be my new house.
Well, given the state of the economy, more Americans are joining the tiny house movement.
Dee Williams of Olympia.
It's a movement, by the way, John.
It's a movement.
It's a movement.
The tiny house movement.
Oh, there goes one now.
Go check it out.
One of those people.
She lives in an 84-square-foot house built with sustainable materials.
She's an environmentalist who wanted to give up a looming mortgage to live in a smaller home with enough cash to go and do the things that she wanted.
It's only 13 1⁄2 feet tall.
It's only 8 1⁄2 feet wide.
You know, it's small, but it works.
It works.
Well, her home boasts a full kitchen, a compost toilet, and a lot...
Compost toilet?
What is that?
Yeah, she craps in this...
We're talking about a room that's 8 foot by 10 foot.
The room I'm in now is bigger than that, okay?
So let's start with that.
And she craps in the toilet.
Toilet in the room.
So you're in there crapping in the living room and eating.
Or maybe you're cooking while you're on the crapper.
But what is a compost toilet?
That means you just go, essentially it's an outhouse.
It's a bucket.
It's a bucket with a lid.
It's a bucket with a lid.
Crap in it.
And this is cool because you're an environmentalist.
Yes, and it's built from sustainable materials like your own poop.
Offed with an incredible skylight.
She says it reminds her of the treehouse that she spent time in as a child.
Romanticize it, the treehouse.
As an adult, William says she is proud to be leaving a smaller carbon footprint.
I have a low energy propane heater.
By the way, she looks like she's knocking on death's door.
I bet she is.
She does not look well.
She does not look well.
And low E argon insulated windows.
And then I used cotton bat insulation in the walls and the ceiling.
No plastics or space age stuff.
No space age stuff.
No space age stuff.
But this is what we're being conditioned for, and it's a movement, John.
It's the tiny house movement.
So we're all supposed to get on board with the tiny house movement and feel good about saving the earth.
And I'm all for not polluting, if possible, but carbon tax...
And pooping on top of my own poop?
Yeah, of course it's a scam.
And by the way, for anyone who's just started listening to the show, we don't have a problem with people who might believe in one thing or another, but if you're sincere about global warming and carbon and the problem with carbon, you cap it.
You don't cap and trade it.
Just kill yourself if you really care.
And they won't cap it.
If it's so important and everything they say is true, why don't they cap it?
They won't cap it.
They want to cap and trade, which means that nothing changes.
So what's the point?
Why are we doing any of it?
Because it is a scam at the base.
Otherwise, they would cap it.
It seems to me.
Wouldn't they cap it?
Cap it.
Whip it.
Whip it.
We need that.
We need...
What's his name saying that?
Cap it.
Cap it or flap it, baby.
Yeah, so I'm just seeing a lot of this.
There was another one.
What was this?
Well, Austin's got one of these areas that's kind of a little like Berkeley.
It's a college town, so you get a lot of nutty stuff there.
You probably have the Berkeley-style women.
The Hummers and the crackpots and the women that knew where they washed their steps more than they washed their hair kind of thing.
No, I have to say, people are pretty cool here.
Yeah, maybe you're falling prey to the hippie quality.
Well, there's definitely hippies, but they're just sitting around smoking dope going, dude, can you believe that Agenda 21 stuff?
No, I don't see that much of it.
I really don't.
And believe me, there's not a lot of...
You don't get out that much.
You don't like to really mingle with the public.
I do too.
There's not a lot of Priuses driving around here.
Because those get rolled over.
With our Dodge Rams.
Like, hey, watch this.
Hey, see that?
Shoot it.
What was that?
Oh, I bumped over a Prius.
It's Steiner Ranch that got Priuses, but those people will be the first to go.
Those gated communities, and I always say the gate is to keep those people in.
And they look at me like, what?
That's what Ron Paul would say.
Mm-hmm.
Hey, in the morning to you, Johnny Boy.
In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
In the morning to all ships and sea and all boots on the ground and all the feet in the air and the feet washing ashore on the British Columbia waterways.
Yes, and in the morning to our human resources in our chat room.
You can find that at noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net.
It takes place every Thursday and Sunday morning at 9 a.m.
Gitmo Nation West time when we do the show live.
Lots of people join in.
Keep us keeping them honest.
Good to see you all there charged up and ready to go.
That's very nice.
Nice email, by the way, John.
I liked and I agreed with what you sent out earlier this week.
The news, it was so unbelievable how there was no news.
It was just the stupidest things that were being propagated over and over and over again.
CNN, I can't...
Now I'm watching Fox News.
I can't even watch CNN anymore.
It's so bad.
CNN has really deteriorated.
Well, they have no budget.
You can tell there's no more money.
It's just over.
Now, the only thing I did see...
What else was there?
You wrote it in your note.
What was the news?
The Trayvon Martin thing.
Somebody sent me a note suggesting that there is a kind of a media hit going on against Hispanics.
Really?
And she or he, I think it was a she.
I didn't understand...
She had a theory that it was maybe to do with the DREAM Act, and I think that's pretty far-fetched.
But, you know, she mentioned that this Trayvon Martin thing is the biggest thing going on, although I believe it was designed to create a white...
Your theory, which is to create a white-black tension.
Yeah.
And you just see the meeting going...
Hey, we got one.
We got a situation.
We can go full bore on it.
He says, yeah, what happened?
Well, I guess this white guy.
Oh, man, look at this.
He's not only white, but he's Jewish.
We got a double hit here.
We got a white Jew killing a black kid.
This will be perfect.
Send Sharpton out.
Send everybody out.
And then somebody looks and says, holy crap, this is a Mexican.
Oh, no.
Hey, that's no good.
Oh, no.
So anyway, but she mentioned that.
And then the Ozzy Guillon thing, which is one of the...
Managers of a baseball team down in Miami who said Fidel Castro is great.
And that created a huge uproar.
Again, in this distraction of the week kind of mode, which is what we've been dealing with.
But this looks like a distraction of the month with this Zimmerman thing.
It's ridiculous.
It's going to be much worse.
Now, first of all, we had, by coincidence...
The Attorney General of the United States, Holder, doing a speech at the National Action Network.
Are you familiar with this outfit?
Is that one of those extortion places?
Yeah, that's the...
Al Sharpton extortion plays.
Al Sharpton is the guy for people outside the country.
He uses a technique that's used by Jesse Jackson of extorting money for his firm by going around and threatening to boycott and picket.
He's a reverend.
He's a community organizer.
He's a reverend.
He's on this.
He's this guy who also went after the kids, the white kids, who supposedly raped some girl at Duke University and put these kids out of business.
It turns out the woman was a hooker that was trying to extort money.
And then when that finally broke out, Sharpton, who'd ruined these kids' lives, him and these other people, never apologized or anything.
These guys are shameless shills and should be ashamed of themselves.
So the way it works is they have these non-profits which pay their salaries and travel and whatever else, and then they threaten you with something, and you can usually get them to stop, like a boycott, as you said.
You can get them to stop if you make a donation to the foundation.
Is that kind of how it works?
Yeah, pretty much.
Jesse Jackson has that one and Sharpton has.
Sharpton modeled his after Jackson's, the guy who perfected it.
So he gets Holder down there.
Do you hear Holder speak at the...
No, I heard what he said.
I heard what he said, though.
Do you have a clip?
Yeah, yeah.
I'll play the clip for you if you wish.
Let's do it.
You are greatly and rightly concerned about the recent shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, a young man whose future has been lost to the ages.
Now, listen very carefully to the words he's using.
He's reading from the teleprompter, of course.
17-year-old young man, so he's really positioning this.
You know, this is the biggest lawyer of the land, right?
This is the guy who's supposed to be completely impartial.
As most of you know, three weeks ago, the Department of Justice launched an investigation into this incident, which remains open at this time.
So this is a state issue.
I don't understand why the Department of Justice needs to come into it, but Eric Holder will unfold it for us.
It prevents me from talking in detail about this matter.
However, I can tell you that in recent weeks, Justice Department officials, including Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division, Tom Perez, and the United States Attorney for the Middle District of Florida, Robert O'Neill, have traveled to Sanford, Florida, to meet with the Martin family, the community, and local authorities.
The FBI is assisting local law enforcement officials.
Why is the FBI in on it?
Makes no sense to me.
But there's more.
There's more.
And representatives from the community relations.
I mean, the guy said, yeah, I killed him.
He said he killed him.
You don't need to investigate that.
I mean, I'm not sure why the FBI is involved, but okay.
The Justice Department's peacemakers are continuing to meet with civil rights leaders, law enforcement officers.
So now, oh, now he's saying it's a civil rights issue.
Let's listen.
...and area residents to address and to help alleviate community tensions.
We're also communicating closely with local, state, and federal representatives and officials.
In all of these discussions, we're listening carefully to concerns, and we're emphasizing that the Department will conduct a thorough and independent review of the evidence.
Now, although I cannot share where our current efforts will lead us from here, I can assure you that in this investigation, and in all cases, Here it comes.
Listen carefully to the words.
We will examine the facts and the law if we find evidence of a potential federal criminal civil rights crime.
Potential federal civil rights crime.
What is a federal civil rights crime?
Well...
So that means the only thing you can mean by that is it's a hate crime.
Yeah.
Or a violation of your civil rights.
Well, he got killed.
Isn't that a violation of your civil rights?
Doesn't that have to be a hate crime?
No, but if you get killed, that's pretty much a violation of your civil rights, I would say.
I would think that would apply to all deaths by gun.
So here's what I think is happening.
So Zimmerman gets charged.
And again, this is not, for us here on this show, this is not a black or white issue.
You know, kid gets killed, that sucks.
Guy kills kid, that sucks.
The whole thing sucks.
But I believe that the Obama campaign is using this, as we've discussed before this even happened, to create racial tension within the country.
And here's how I think it's going to play out.
So Zimmerman gets charged with second-degree murder, which is not the same in every single state.
In Florida, in fact, it's a little bit different than most.
This is going to be a televised court drama.
Nancy Grace is slippery.
That's how excited she is about this.
She's sliding down the sidewalks.
This is going to be 24-7.
We will not get away from the coverage of this case.
It's going to be extremely annoying.
It's going to dominate all the news.
Everyone's going to get hyped up.
It's going to be the conversation du jour.
But he's going to be acquitted, which of course will spark craziness.
And I'll tell you why he's going to get acquitted.
In Florida...
The definition of second-degree murder, it can only stick in two ways.
One, an accomplice felony murder, which is not the case.
We know that because he's not an accomplice.
He actually did it.
He killed the kid.
But the main way you get convicted of second-degree murder in Florida is murder with a depraved mind.
Definition?
Murder with a depraved mind occurs when a person is killed without any premeditated design by an act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind showing no regard for human life.
So they basically will have to prove that Zimmerman was nuts.
And they're not going to prove it.
And then he's going to get off.
I'm in complete agreement with your thesis.
I think it's going to be Michael Jackson 2.
It's going to be a huge deal.
And you're right.
Nancy Grace, who's an idiot, will be up there.
I don't know.
She's just blathering about this and that.
And he will get off.
And I think the whole thing is schemed, so he does get off.
That's why the charge is second degree.
Not manslaughter, but second degree.
Well, actually, I heard one of the law shows say that they can't...
For some reason, they couldn't do manslaughter because in Florida, apparently, they don't have the possibility.
I don't know about that.
There was something screwy about the manslaughter thing where they wouldn't do it.
So they jumped it up to this, and this definitely will get off, and then all hell will break loose, which will provide it in time for the election.
Perfect timing.
I think we're going to see 90 days worth of trial.
What do you think?
We'll have recesses.
First we have to pick the jury.
We've got to have the jury picked.
Let me look at the calendar.
Right.
When is the Democratic National Convention?
And by the way, isn't that in Florida this year?
Let me see.
That would be good timing.
Yeah.
National, oh boy, National Convention 2012.
Let's see who Googles fast.
Charlotte.
Oh, North Carolina?
Yeah, which is close enough.
Yeah, it is close enough.
And starts when?
I'm looking for the date here.
Okay, let's do this for a second.
The week of September 3rd.
September 3rd.
Okay, so September 3rd is the week, so it has to happen before that.
I think it has to conclude before that to work.
I think August.
July?
End of July.
Yeah, so we're going to go through...
One month, two months, three months, that's your 90 days, as you said.
Add another 30 days, that would be 120, to get out the court decision.
Because I don't think they can stretch it past the convention, because they don't want to make it a distraction during the Democrat convention.
But, when's the Republican convention?
No idea.
Let's take a look.
I figured you would know.
I thought you had your invite already.
I didn't get an invite this year.
Okay, this is August 27th, so they have to...
They've got to wrap it up by mid-August.
Ideally...
End of July even, John.
No, no, I'm thinking ideally you do it on top of the Republican Convention.
Oh, to completely distract from it.
Perfect.
Yeah, and then you end it right after the Republican Convention and go into the Democrat Convention where they can now start pointing the finger.
Perfect.
Perfect.
Yeah, and it's going to be pandemonium.
People will be freaking out.
And thank you very much to the administration.
Holder, propping it up there.
It's clear what side he's on, which I don't think he should be picking any side.
What business does he have talking at the National Action Network?
What business does he have?
Go run the Justice Department, dude.
Yeah, go send some guns to Mexico.
Yeah, go do something helpful.
Don't be pandering over there.
That's lame.
Anyway, I bet you you didn't see any of this on the news this past week, did you?
I get see holders talking in front of that.
No, but I bet no one actually said, here's the real definition of second-degree murder in Florida.
No.
No one does any of that work.
No.
So there you go.
So those of you listening to this program, also known as the best podcast in the universe, You're getting your money's worth.
And let's thank a few producers for some insight here.
I mean, you're not going to get it anyplace else.
These guys, and you're right.
CNN is a disaster.
In fact, even Jon Stewart went after him last week.
Let me say something about Jon Stewart.
Jon Stewart is a disaster, and he jumped the shark on me.
Yeah, well.
Someone sent me a clip.
He had Tim Weiner on.
No, nobody watches the last...
No, no, uh-uh.
That doesn't count.
Jon Stewart is good for the first 20 minutes and you turn it off.
Let me just say something about it, though.
So I am three-quarters of the way through his new book called Enemies, the inside story of the FBI, which is the follow-up to Legacy of Ashes about the CIA. And I have to say, I'm not completely convinced that Weiner hasn't been compromised.
While writing this book.
But I'll tell you one thing.
The guy that you want is that guy who wrote the Bush book.
That's the guy who's got the...
But I'm going to get the guy on the big book show, so I'm going to interview him about both books.
Weiner?
Yeah.
But what was interesting is that Jon Stewart is conducting this interview, and within the first question, you didn't read the book.
He did not read the book.
He didn't read the book.
He's asking questions because he saw the J. Edgar Hoover movie, which is not what the book is about.
Yeah, of course there's J. Edgar Hoover in there, but it's not what the book is about.
CIA anecdotes are very entertaining.
No, no, the FBI. Legacy of Ashes?
No, no, we're talking about the new book.
Yeah, he didn't read the other book either.
Yeah.
And by the way, I'll tell you that book.
The new book?
Yeah.
If the accounts that Weiner is writing in this, we've had nothing but hit squads and black bagging of American citizens going on since the 1900s.
It's amazing.
Thousands of people arrested in one night, thrown into prison, no warrants.
This has been going on forever.
We thought the NDAA was new.
This is not new.
Our country has always been a Nazi state.
It's crazy.
When you read this book, you'd be like, oh my goodness.
I just have to read that book now.
Well, wait until I do the Weiner interview.
What makes you think he's compromised?
Is the book pulling punches?
It feels very different than the first one.
You know what I mean?
He also doesn't state that.
Oh, the first one was probably written by the CIA. Well, remember I called Uncle Don about the first one, and Uncle Don said, yep, that's pretty much the way I remember it.
That sounds about right.
And I can't call Uncle Don on this.
But it just feels like, you know, he's...
In fact, the book protects Hoover a bit.
Well, maybe it was written by the FBI. Maybe that is his style.
He goes in, he says what he wants to do.
I mean, sometimes as a writer, it's not really you writing, it's you doing a project.
And so you go in, because you can't research all this stuff.
No.
And, I mean, if you look at Michelle Malkin's book on the Obamas, you can read that, which came out right after he got elected.
You look at that thing and you say, this woman could not have spent this much time getting all this information.
Somebody, it was a team.
That was a shitty book.
That was a waste of 14 bucks.
You get a team.
Yeah.
And you say, here's what you need to get, here's what I need to get.
You have a whole bunch of research.
They all bring the stuff together.
And in many instances, with the case of a government agency, because you don't want to get killed, you just have them do the damn book.
I'm sure the CIA wrote that other book, just so they could specifically leave certain things out.
Yeah, it had a lot to do with it for sure.
Anyway.
All right.
Let's thank our producers.
We have executive producers and associates for today's episode, which is nice as we're gearing up for the big episode 400.
People getting in early on it, John.
Yeah, well, everyone who got a 400 in today gets two executive producer credits because you get also credited on the next show.
So it's a two for the price of one deal.
And anyway, next show is show 400, which is amazing.
You know, that's more shows than the Twit broadcast.
Don't get me started.
Kathy Simunich starts us off from West Chicago, 60667, and she's now going to be Dame Kathy.
I paid $9.30, and she has a little accounting here.
I still have enough left to pay for a knighthood.
My husband and I have listened to your show for a couple of years now, and you guys do an outstanding job.
We asked for some karma for the U.S. Constitution.
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
You've got karma.
Absolutely.
Black Knight Robin Dearden from...
I don't have a location for some reason, but he came with $400.40.
Keep it up, guys.
Donating with reference to the last newsletter.
Very effective.
Value for value.
Good stuff, he says.
You know, I was thinking...
You know, you write several columns a week.
What do you write, like two columns a week, maybe more?
Every week I write a minimum of six.
Six columns.
So why don't you just throw in an extra one?
Just do a seventh and make that the weekly column for...
That's what I do here.
That's what the newsletter is.
I'm sending it every Wednesday.
I guess what I'm saying is, it felt much more like one of your columns, and that really appealed to me.
I really liked it.
That was good.
Yeah, no, I mean, it's just a style.
Keep it going.
Yeah, that's what I did a couple of columns ago.
I had a whole thing about the pipeline.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Keep it up.
Keep it up.
It's good.
It's good work.
People who are on the mailing list will get this usually Wednesday.
Sometimes they'll skip a week.
But generally speaking, Wednesday morning it'll be in your inbox if you are on the mailing list.
And I would say that once in a while there'll be something valuable.
And I like it, you know, because it's an enjoyable read.
John always sends me the column.
Did you keep any of my changes or did you just ignore them?
I just used yours.
I didn't touch it after you did.
Oh, that's good to know.
Did you screw it up?
I hope not.
No, I just made, you know, there's a couple things.
I'm like, oh, come on, man.
We're in 2012.
Come on, hip it up a bit.
But it's good.
I read through that.
I'm like, oh, this is really a fun read.
So it's good.
I like it.
This goes to Pepper's mama, Shana, for a quick copy at it first.
Because she, like when we did a newsletter like two or three years ago, she's one of these.
Oh, I remember that.
Yeah.
She's like.
She's bitching and moaning about how idiotic we were.
You know, we had some.
Typos, because I don't use a copy editor for this thing.
She's like, really?
You went to Berkeley?
Really?
So I said, okay, really?
Okay, boom.
So I sent her all the things.
So she sends it to me, and that becomes version two, and then I just send that to you, and then you have to see it, because we're part of the same group here, you and me.
And so then you do what you think is right, and I get it back, and 90% of the time I don't do anything, but once in a while I'll look at it.
I did, I think, change one thing, because I decided against something.
All right.
I'll take something out or whatever.
And then it goes out on Wednesday morning.
Right, moving on.
David Rudolph Baker.
Bucker, Bucker, Bucker.
It's Bucker?
Bucker.
It looks like it's a B-A-K-K-E-R. I would say Bucker.
It's usually pronounced Baker.
Maybe.
Like Jim Baker, the famous...
Well, he's from Rodin.
Where's Rodin?
I don't know where Rodin is.
Rodin.
He's in Gitmo Nation, Singapore.
That's where he is now.
Oh.
He's probably an economic hitman.
Probably, you think?
Totally Gitmo Nation, Singapore.
I realize I noticed this thanks to No Agenda.
And it was time to donate again.
And you just happened to send out a $400 donation request, which in turn is just enough for me to finally become a knight.
Coincidence?
I think not!
Coincidence?
I think not!
Karma from my almost-ready-to-be-launched book, Het Mech Buj.
Oh, there you go.
So he's Dutch.
Bucker.
Let me give you the pronunciation.
Het Mech Buj here.
At Macbookia.
Which you can find at Macbookia.nl.
The fact of the matter is...
That's what he says.
I know.
You're buzzing me for it.
I'm buzzing him.
I'm buzzing him.
He's doing it as a joke.
For me, the no agenda is the one and only form of news and entertainment I could not live without.
If you out there, listeners, feel the same, he says, donate.
You've got karma.
Nice.
Thank you, David Rudolf Bakker, het Macbookje.nl.
Robert Randall in Portland, Oregon, $400.
I couldn't find an email from him, so I was supposed to just $400 straight up.
William Jarema in Millville...
New Jersey, $400.
Same with him.
Want to thank both you guys.
Bruce Salkovitz in Warrington, Pennsylvania, $400.
In the morning, Mazel Tov on show 400.
Plan was 200 every 100 shows.
Need to accelerate.
Plan to be a night.
This doubles down current level.
Should be up to 800.
Please wish my hot but vertically challenged wife a happy birthday.
I love you, sweetie.
He's a mini MILF. This will get her off my back for the donation.
Adam, you were the hair envy of my friends in the 80s.
He's still the hair envy of everybody.
Yeah, thank you.
They got the band together, and he's got a Facebook thing.
Shot of karma for me, shot of karma for all.
Love the hair, no homo.
And he's a folder.
You've got karma.
Thanks, man.
Folder.
Well, there's only two types of people in the world.
You either fold your toilet paper or you scrunch it.
Oh, yeah, a folder.
What are you?
You're a scruncher.
I know you're a scruncher.
I am a combo scruncher folder.
How about that?
There's three types of people.
I think you're an angry buncher.
Yul Vandermeer.
Hey, that's Yul.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, he's back.
This is...
Flissingen.
Flissingen, yeah.
Flissingen.
$3.99.
As Carly Bosch that raised the bar last episode, just wanted to make sure that she can call me sir.
He gets his knighthood today.
I'd like to call out Robert Muhlenberg as a douchebag.
Oh, well, hell yeah.
Douchebag.
Douchebag.
Thanks for the karma you guys sent last year for my startup Blauwater.
Yes, I was the one in the mega yachting in the number.
And no, I still not want you guys to make fun of my customers.
Yeah, this is the guy that does the big, beautiful ships.
Yeah, he makes big yachts.
He's a big yacht builder.
Yeah.
And one day...
He'll be one of the few night yacht builders.
Yeah.
Well, he can put the No Agenda coat of arms on each of his projects.
Yeah, someplace in the corner where they won't notice it.
Built by Sir Yule Fundamere.
Last year karma was well spent as I have a full order book for the following year.
Of course you do.
That's the way things go.
That's how it works.
So a very big thank you to my customers and a donation for you guys.
Reason for the donation on this episode is I wanted to spread the love, a.k.a.
Dow, between...
I think it means the dough.
Dow, he says Dow.
Between John's birthday preparations for Adam's and Mickey's wedding and the fourth centennial show, furthermore, I assume the shows in between would be slower.
And so he came up with 399.
He's a member of the 399 Club.
Yep, perfect.
You'll get a special extra credit for that today.
Thank you so much.
Paul Boyer in Howell, Michigan, 33333, accommodation for my birthday, April 12th, 42, following on a show day and the threat of not getting a night ring if I don't start donating soon.
Finally got me off my ass.
Been donating since episode one, but I'm not quite a total douche since I donated $9.02, obscure Atlas Shrugged reference, way back when you first started taking PayPal donations.
Still, I'd like a de-douching, and since I listen to every show, and you guys have earned this donation 398 times over, just because it's my favorite jingle, I can't, can I get a planes good, trains bad, de-douching maybe with an adios mofo as icing?
Well, okay.
Hold on a second.
There's a lot of work we've got to do here.
Okay, let's do that for you.
Where is my Plains Good train?
I haven't played it in such a while.
Here we go.
All aboard, trains good, planes bad.
You've been de-douched.
Adios, mofo.
See, I've always believed that the sound effect angle to these shows is a big payoff.
Okay.
John Johnson Jr., $250.
Hey, citizens.
I want to thank you for all the hours of information.
Hey, citizens.
I'd like to request a double shot of karma.
One for my parents since I got introduced to my dad to the show a few weeks ago.
The other one for my smoking hot fiancé.
Since it's her birthday on Friday, can you put her on the birthday list?
Yeah.
You've got karma.
So hold on a second.
So that's...
John Johnson's fiancé.
He never gave us a name.
John Johnson's...
Junior.
John Johnson Jr.
Really?
John Johnson.
It's Triple J, everybody.
JJJ. JJJ. Just plain old Steven in Denver, $200, and he has really nothing to say except that.
And we want to thank them and all our other contributors for show 399.
Almost to show 400, it's a big deal to get that far.
And you can go to dvorak.org slash nachannel, dvorak.com slash na, noagendashow.com and noagendanation.com to click on the donate button and keep us going.
Yes, keep us going through the summer.
dvorak.org I do have just, wow, a couple of things here.
Just a quick note from Jason Bene, B-E-N-N-E. Hi Ryan, to say thank you, thank you for the priceless education you and JCD have given to me and others.
This evening the local CBS News came on after CSI and all the bull crap made me sick.
I had to turn off the TV. I've been listening for almost two years now.
Sadly, I'm still a boner.
This living the American dream of just getting by really sucks.
I tell everyone I can about the show.
I hope to support you guys as long as I can get through school and find a job again.
From the bottom of this stay-at-home dad's heart, thank you very much.
I just wanted to read that because it was a beautiful note.
Thank you so much to Joe over there at HealthySurprise.com.
Did you get a box?
I got a box.
Yeah, hold on a second.
Let me get the boxes.
I think we should go over this.
Well, maybe we have to.
We can do that later.
Yeah, let's close this segment first.
It's a beautiful, beautiful box of food, which is highly appreciated food.
It's a gift that keeps on giving.
Except for the kale.
No, I'm not too big on the kale.
Mickey loves the kale, though.
She loves the kale.
Doug Walker.
He has donated before.
Is he a knight, Doug Walker?
I know he's donated several times.
It says, We're hoping to hear some news one way or the other about his status,
but if you could send out a karma shot for his squadron, I would appreciate it.
His Marine squadron is VMM261 out of New River, North Carolina.
So I'd like to do that.
You've got karma.
And then quick PR mentions Scott from Monroe, Michigan.
He sent us a picture that he was recently asked or selected to be in a Gallup poll.
And this is a real polling outfit, these Gallup poll guys.
And question number nine on this poll, which internet site do you turn to most to get news or information about national and international issues?
And of course, he filled out noagendashow.com, which is very good.
Keep spiking those Gallup polls.
I got on a couple of those polls recently.
I have a new technique.
These polls were political ones, and I was always trying to see who we were going to vote for now, so I pushed it toward Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul.
Very good, very good.
And then at the very end, they asked me my income.
I gave them a real high number, which I like to pass to Ron Paul.
And then, my race, I'm black.
I think we said more black people were going for Ron Paul.
Absolutely.
And then certainly the best PR move of the week.
I love this.
GitmoShirts.com is now open for business.
You must check this website out, John, if you haven't seen it yet.
Look at the awesome shirt designs you can now buy on GitmoShirts.com.
These are phenomenal.
And I believe we're getting a couple of them.
I can't wait.
Are you there?
Yeah, I'm looking there now.
You see the shirt designs?
I'm just seeing a big signage.
I don't see any shirts at all.
Up at the top?
Menu at the top?
Oh, shirt designs.
There it is.
So you see the Drone Star State shirt, which I like.
China Pipelines, Inc.
I love the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group.
That's a great shirt.
Yeah, I need that.
And how about the Curry Dvorak drones?
We're in business.
Yeah, we're in business.
All right, everybody, keep it coming.
We highly appreciate our executive producers and associate executive producers.
You too can become one of those, or you can just become a monthly subscriber.
And of course, you can always just do whatever lots of slaves do is propagate the formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
New.
World. Order.
Hey now.
Shut up, slaves.
I thought it was a pretty big week, actually, news-wise.
please.
I don't know if you...
What'd you dig up?
Oh, tons of interesting...
Well, so the...
Here's how I saw what happened.
There was only one actual news report...
That was broadcast in the United States of Gitmo Nation.
And that was on Sunday, right after our program, and that was 60 Minutes.
And the way I see this, and this was the 60 Minutes episode, of course, had a lot of Mike Wallace stuff in there.
But then it was about 15 minutes of just how effed the European Union is.
And all of Europe.
And America.
And we're all going to die.
And subsequently, the markets all tanked on Monday.
I think that these stupid people on Wall Street are like, oh man...
Hey, man, this is no good.
We're screwed, man.
And then just everything tanks.
There was no other reason for it than this report.
Actually, if you listen to the DHM plug show from last week, Horowitz had a reasonable explanation for the reports that came out that triggered it.
And I don't think it was a 60 minutes thing, although it's possible.
Listen to this.
I pulled a few quick quotes from it just to give you a little bit of a feel for what this was about.
Louise Cooper, a top financial analyst in London, says the European holiday is over.
We're in a debt crisis.
Eurozone countries have way too much debt.
We have gorged on debt.
Gorged!
We are living beyond our means.
Living.
And after ten years of booming economic time.
Booming.
It is now payback time.
We are paying back our credit cards and that will prove very painful and costly.
Painful, bitches!
Painmaker credit cards!
So then they have Christine Lagarde, who I just watched at the Brookings Institute this morning.
I'm going to see if I can pull some clips from that.
And she basically just comes out and says it.
She says, well, you know, you just can't have a whole region of all these countries using the same money without fiscal policy.
So this is exactly what everyone was warned against, and she's saying, well, we've got to have it.
When you have a single currency...
And when you don't have a single or at least very closely coordinated fiscal policy, then you run the risk of having part of the territory go into one direction and other part of the territory go into another direction.
And that's exactly what happened.
Yes, and that is not good.
So we're going to change all of that.
And she has some very wise words for the people of Greece.
When I heard this, I was just like, wow, really?
There's still medicine to be taken.
Take your medicine, slaves!
Take it, Greece!
But the funniest thing of this entire...
There's still medicine to be taken!
The funniest thing about this...
And I didn't see the television broadcast.
I only saw the web version.
So no matter how many times you play the clips, and they have an isolated clip of Lagarde, and then they have the 14 and a half or like 15 minute piece on Grease, and not anywhere, not anywhere do they go through the history of how Grease happened, where Goldman Sachs came in, advised them on all these off-book transactions, and then basically turned around and screwed them in the rectum.
But who is this program sponsored by?
When a group of engineers who can see the future meets a team at Goldman Sachs who can see potential, investors are found.
The whole thing was sponsored by Goldman Sachs!
The whole report!
Hey, Goldman wanted to market the tank on Monday.
Well, someone knew about it.
Someone knew.
Huh.
That's a good catch.
I had a funny advertisement that I caught in the middle of the news show.
Oh.
The regular news, you know, the local news play.
There's a back-to-back commercial.
First was the lottery commercial followed by this.
Sorry, it wasn't fast enough.
Oops.
Yeah.
Oh, my mouse is stuck.
What is this?
Okay, let me do that again.
First, it was a commercial.
This is showing you what the problem with the country is.
Everyone's out of work, so play the lottery.
Maybe you make some money, but if you don't, then you can maybe rob a bank.
Number one.
Yes!
Woo!
Woo!
New California Lottery Black Scratchers.
At Aladdin, we make you feel comfortable by providing a safe, welcoming environment and a well-trained staff that gets you through the process stress-free.
Deep breath.
We're here to help you.
Aladdin bail bonds.
They get you out.
They get you through it.
So that's what it's basically come down to.
You either win the lottery or you go to jail.
That's pretty much the options you have in America.
I swear, this is back-to-back commercials, right during the news.
It's like, this is the audience now?
The audience, they're all on the lottery.
And everybody, by the way, at the media offices bought a lottery ticket for that big Mega Millions thing, which is a joke.
Yeah.
And so you either win the lottery, but you cancel.
You've got to rob a bank or something, and then Aladdin Bonds will be there to help.
We have a lot of those commercials in Texas.
It says 777-7777.
1, 2, 3, 4.
How can you forget the number, right?
777-7777.
And you see this poor schlup looking through bars like, help me.
Help me.
Get me out.
Get me out.
I'm not going to be in the slave labor pool.
So, we're finally starting to see some video of actual events taking place in Greece.
Because people, I mean, this is no joke.
Just because you're not seeing it on television doesn't mean that it's not happening.
There was a great program.
And the people of Greece, they're just so fed up.
They really are not taking it anymore.
They break into this poor schlub's news program.
He's interviewing someone who clearly they don't agree with.
And they start pelting it with yogurt and eggs!
All right!
But listen, it doesn't stop!
All right!
Why can't that happen on 60 Minutes or when Diane Sawyer is on?
Yogurt and eggs.
Yogurt and eggs.
It's a perfect combination.
But then this one.
This is just a...
I don't read Greek, so I'm getting a translation here.
Things could be embellished or lost in translation.
But the Civil Protection Minister, Michalis Chrysohoides...
Well, here's his quote.
May 6th, they have a general election coming up.
Here's his quote.
We have a commitment to start operating the closed hospitality centers, and we will keep to that commitment.
The first center will operate before the general election in Greater Athens, and it will act as a model to show Greek citizens that these facilities are safe for the public and will operate to high standards of health and hygiene.
So do you know what these closed hospitality centers are, John?
Know what?
Well, they are meant for the influx of refugees who are, of course, fleeing to the north out of North Africa.
But they're going to have this by May 6th.
Now, why would it be important to have these closed hospitality centers by May 6th?
It's because they're concentration camps.
They are literally building camps to throw people into.
That would make sense.
What was the due date on these things?
May what?
May 6th.
That's when they have the general election.
Oh.
Yeah.
This isn't going to be fun to watch.
My advice to people who like to travel?
Don't go to Greece?
Don't go to Greece.
At least until next year.
Oh boy, oh boy.
Camps.
I don't speak Greece.
What?
There's some real problems in all of Europe, really.
Let me have a quick rundown while we're here.
Sweden faces a massive toilet paper shortage.
This is like the butter shortage of Norway.
It's just the opposite.
Other end.
The threat of toilet paper shortage looms large over Sweden after a labor union warned it would block deliveries from several Swedish toilet paper factories in a show of solidarity with another union group negotiating for higher pay.
That's a shitty thing to do.
Hey!
Hold on a second.
Where is it?
In the morning!
Very good.
Boy.
Yeah, very good.
Take some time.
Gitmo Nation East, the United Kingdom, still a part of Europe.
Looks like...
And something else.
What?
I'm talking to JC. Oh.
He needs to give me a clip that I didn't have.
That's okay.
Here it is from The Guardian.
Gas prices will rise 27%.
What?
27% due to increased distribution costs.
What?
Yeah.
Natural gas.
This is not gas that comes out for your car.
Is there a new middleman that's taking a piece of the action as the gas goes by?
Well, they're lying, of course.
They need to get this price up.
They're just going to jack the price up.
Yeah, because the actual price of gas is now below $2 at the wells.
Oh, the price of natural gas is...
In the toilet, it's so low.
They could essentially give it away and still not make money.
But they're saying the distribution costs.
Yeah.
The pipelines, I guess.
Pipelines, yeah.
Yeah, it's got to be pipelines.
27%.
So this is it.
And then let's add on the carbon tax I'm sure that you'll get.
So, okay.
If you're traveling, you might not want to go to the...
I don't think this is a good time to start gouging the general public.
Well...
But I guess they're putting up with it.
I mean, you know, maybe I'm thinking...
My thinking is backwards.
When they're down, kick them.
So Spain is doing what Italy did and doing what Belgium did.
They are now limiting cash transactions to 2,500 euros to fight tax fraud.
So you cannot transact in cash with anyone legally in Spain over 2,500 euros.
What?
Yeah, you heard me.
That's a good catch.
Well, I follow these things.
Well, why?
Oh, because you're trying to move money?
Ixnay on the anime uvme.
Wow.
Gitmo Nation Lowlands.
They had the funniest report.
So you can't buy, like, are you telling me, let me get this straight.
I've got $10,000, let's say I want to buy a car with cash.
Or let's say $5,000.
Let's say $3,000.
I can't do it?
Nope.
Not legally.
I can't legally spend $3,000 on a used car in cash because I've been saving the money.
Well, dollars yes, euros no.
Because 2,500 euros is a little more than $3,000.
Okay, I'm just saying, 3,000 euros.
Yeah.
Yep.
No, can't do it.
Wow.
They're just trying to definitely lock down.
They're expecting serious, serious rioting and other civil disorders coming around the corner.
They're not expecting it.
They're...
Goating people into it.
They're creating it, totally.
But in the Netherlands, now, the Netherlands is so, I love the Netherlands.
So they can't, you know, I remember we were following the report about the financial crisis and the banks lied, and then so another reporter's come out and said the former minister of finance, Walter Bosch, you know, he totally screwed up, he He did things he shouldn't have done.
And then he's coming back and saying, hey, look, you know, we're on the precipice.
We're about to collapse.
The whole world was dying.
We had to do what we could do with very little information.
We did what we could do.
So this conversation is starting to heat up a little bit.
And they're like, how do we stop this?
How do we stop?
We've got to stop this.
So they come out with a news report that the VVD, the conservative party, Are going to invite George Clooney to come to speak in Parliament, along with Prendergast, to speak about Sudan.
And this is like, everything on the news in the Netherlands is George Clooney.
It's like, this is so the go-to guy.
And now he's expanding the operations outside of the U.S. to other countries.
It's like, you got a problem?
You want to dominate the news with something else?
Call Clooney.
There's a strange thing.
I have not gotten to the bottom of it yet.
But the guy who was killed in China that we haven't really talked about too much, but he was murdered by the wife of the head of the province, who was a big shot that has to now be taken aside and, I guess, beaten.
And so he's not going to be in the Politburo eventually, whatever he's headed for.
The guy was part of a MI6 operation that's run out of London.
It's a consulting group.
I don't have the name in front of me, so I don't have it.
I follow this story.
It's very hard to follow.
If you look into that group, one of the main players is a guy named Prendergast.
Oh, no.
Yes.
Interesting.
But he's a Kevin or a Kyle or some other Prendergast.
And I can't find any relation to this Prendergast, who supposedly is from Indiana.
At all.
But the weird thing is, and why I think there's a connection, I haven't gotten to the bottom of it at all, is that that Prendergast in the MI6 consulting company was one of the early go-to guys for the situation in Darfur.
Oh, that has to be him.
Yes, but I can find zero connection.
Except the name.
And R4. So I mean, there's two kind of important things, but it's weird.
We need two things.
We need a jingle for, you know, if your country's in trouble, you need a little distraction.
Call Clooney!
Call Clooney!
We need a call George Clooney jingle.
And we need something for the Chiners, too.
Because the China thing is just getting outrageous.
Did you see, related to economic hitmen, what happened in Malawi?
After your economic hitman said, keep your eye on Malawi, then Malawi's president dies, but they can't find the body to do an autopsy.
You just misplaced him.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, we can't find him.
You see who just stepped in?
Who?
Malawi's new president is Joyce Banda, formerly of the World Bank.
Yeah, it's even better.
You can't make it up!
It's going to be the brother, but then the brother guy, they pushed him aside and they put in this World Bank woman.
If we were writing a book, right, we said, hey, I'll tell you what, we'll kill the old president with a heart attack thing.
And then we'll put in someone from the World Bank.
The editor at the publisher would go, come on, man.
No one's going to believe that.
You can't do that.
You're no good.
You guys are no good at writing.
You cannot make this up.
You can't.
Oh my goodness.
The thing is, I don't get the base for the Malawi.
What's going on there?
Anyway, we'll follow it.
The other one is Mali, which is confusing.
By the way, that guy who was killed in China at first said it was alcohol poisoning, even though he didn't drink.
And then they immediately cremated him.
Oh, might as well.
Just burn him up quick.
Yeah.
Anyway, this is fishy stuff going on.
I have a question for our techno experts.
Remember we talked about that kids activity book from Monsanto?
Yeah, I do remember.
So I put that thing, the way I construct the show notes, is I put that thing into a folder, and that is replicated in two places.
One on my Dropbox account, and that is also replicated on our show notes Dropbox, which is an Amazon S3. So it's the same one.
And so, you know, I just throw this PDF file in there.
So it's literally sitting on my...
I just got an alert.
Watch George Zimmerman in court.
It's already starting.
So this thing is sitting on my hard drive.
That's not from one of our listeners, is it?
No, no, no, no.
It's a news alert.
So this thing is sitting on my hard drive.
And, you know, I have...
What is that?
You know, those alerts.
What is it called?
The...
Those pop-up alerts you have on the Mac.
Oh, come on.
Help me out.
I don't know.
The bubble alert?
Yeah, it's like a bubble alert.
I forget what it's called.
Someone will know.
So that's tied into Growl.
That's what it is.
Growl.
Growl.
So that's tied into Skype.
I have it turned off for Skype.
But I have it turned on for Dropbox because sometimes during the show, someone will drop something in a public folder.
I'll see the Growl notification.
It'll be a clip that I can use.
So it's a part of the show.
So for the entire two weeks since I dropped this in the box, every time I'm in front of my computer, I'll see the file Kids Activity Book has updated to the most recent version.
I'm like, how can it do that?
So what I've done, if you go to kidsactivity.curry.com, I've put a copy of this PDF file there.
Could you please download that?
Anyone knows how this works.
Is this thing phoning home?
Is it maybe a virus?
Yeah, it might be.
Because if it's updating to...
I mean, that means the file is changing for some reason.
I'm not touching the file.
No one else has access to that directory.
Do you have an original copy that doesn't have any internet access?
No, well, I literally moved this file.
So now it's on S3. So if you go to kidsactivity, one word, dot curry dot com, you can download the copy from there.
Take a look at it.
I mean, I have no idea...
What's going on with that?
But to me, it felt like, wait a minute.
This can't be, you know, it keeps updating and it keeps telling me that it's up.
I've never seen this with any other file.
So maybe it was a honeypot or something.
Well, it's, you know, I don't know what kind of access control there is in a PDF file that might be, allow it to do this on its own.
You have a PDF file and every time you launch it, it can call home perhaps and then update itself.
That would be an access control protocol.
It's possible it's built into PDFs.
I've never heard of such a thing.
Me neither.
But it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
It's pretty cool if it does.
Well, yeah.
Then I'd like to know what it's doing.
We can send out a PDF file of all kinds of stuff and just change it.
Have it call home.
Hey, now we can actually see all of our 10,000 listeners.
I don't know, it's weird.
This is a report that I know you caught.
I think you might have even blogged about it on Dvorak.org slash blog.
This is definitely, let me see if we can, this would be this.
Don't look over here!
Nothing to see here!
So this was the report that all of a sudden is all over the news.
He's tall, lanky, nice looking, and a third grade teacher who is now filling the spot formerly held by Osama Bin Laden on the FBI's most wanted list.
Eric Justin Toth is a former...
Private school teacher and camp counselor accused of possessing and producing child porn.
He's been on the run since 2008 when he was arrested after the sexual images were found on a school camera in his possession.
Then he vanished.
Now the FBI needs your help.
Toth is 30 years old.
This is very important, because I thought about this for a long time, and I went back and I listened to the clip.
I didn't watch.
So the FBI needs your help.
So there's a couple things.
First of all, the fact that he's replaced bin Laden is a distraction.
And borderline crazy.
Because Bin Laden is, you know, we know that he's at the bottom of the ocean somewhere, right?
So they take him off and, you know, they put this guy on the list, but it's a distraction to throw you off track.
But now they're saying, we need your help.
And said to be a computer and social engineering expert.
He may be advertising online as a tutor or mail nanny.
And he's believed to have lived in Arizona in 2009 and visited all the states shown right there on our map.
Now let's get in the FBI expert who will solidify what we need to do here.
Joining us now, Kevin Perkins, the assistant director of the FBI's Criminal Investigative Division.
So Kevin, let's start with what more you can tell us about Toth.
Yes, good morning, Kira.
Thanks for having us today.
It's very important that we utilize the public's ability to find Toth.
Wait a minute.
Is this the FBI I'm hearing speaking?
The FBI is very important.
We can't...
Now, by the way, he went missing, Rogue, in 2008.
This is four years ago.
Now, it's very, very important.
This kid pornographer...
Very important.
We need the public, which means we don't actually need your help because we can drone anyone we want anywhere.
We need you to be thinking about this guy in association with child pornography.
Toth is a danger to society.
The allegations made against him in the charges that have been brought are serious and they're the type of charges that could get him into a lot of trouble with our youth.
Toth is an individual that can blame The guy's making it up, clearly.
He can get in a lot of trouble with that.
What?
What are you saying, douche?
As you mentioned, he's been a camp counselor.
He's been a school teacher.
He's the type of...
Why don't you just throw in, like, a Boy Scout leader, throw in a couple more things that can get people's mind occupied.
...person that will blend into society, and that's why it's very important that the public take a close look at the photograph and try to see if they recognize this guy.
So this is a distraction, John, and it didn't take me long to figure it out.
Okay, I want to hear what you say.
And now let me add to your report there.
This one really blew my mind, because I've never seen this with anybody.
I'm coming back from San Francisco, and I go past the Clear Channel, CBS, or one of the two.
They have a giant electronic sign billboard.
You know, one of those LCD ones.
And there's the guy's picture.
Have you seen this man wanted?
FBI's most wanted.
And I'm like, what is this on the billboard off of Highway 80?
From 2008, no less.
Yeah, now what's the rush?
The rush is we need to associate the public's mind...
With someone else, someone very dangerous, camp counselor, tutor, school teacher, a male nanny, also known as a manny.
He's a manny.
He's a Boy Scout leader.
He's a guitar expert.
I don't know.
He's all these things.
He is a child pornographer.
Turns out, Senator Grassley is starting up his investigations on the Pentagon.
Here's the report from a little over a year ago, which was big news, Anderson Pooper, with Senator Grassley, and then it just went away.
Senator Grassley, you were told that 5,200 Defense Department employees had allegedly purchased child porn, and yet you're saying only 3,500 of those names were cross-checked by a defense investigator to see if they were really DOD personnel.
That's mind-boggling.
Why weren't all of them cross-checked?
Well, we don't have an answer to that question, but it's quite obvious that the other 1,700 should be cross-checked.
And that's one of the answers to my questions that I want answered.
And the implication of our question is they ought to be cross-checked.
We ought to find out because we're talking about not just general pornography here.
We're talking about child pornography, and child pornography, taking that down is a crime.
And also, there's an added factor here, considering the fact that there's a lot of secured information, national security information, that the world shouldn't know.
That a lot of times foreign operatives will use this sort of criminal activity to blackmail to get information.
So there's a lot of things here that are involved because it's a Defense Department issue as opposed to any other department of government.
So Grassley is ramping up his investigation now.
And they did get one guy.
But that news report didn't really work.
They tried that a couple weeks ago.
A retired U.S. Navy chief petty officer was arrested, thrown in the brig, 160 months in federal prison for receiving child pornography.
Probably another patsy, but that didn't go anywhere.
No one picked that news report up at all.
But Grassley is getting the investigation going, and he's not stopping.
He's saying, hey...
We need to know about this because, and this is the entire problem, it's not just that they're child pornographer lovers, but you can be blackmailed.
And there's 1,700 names that have not been vetted in the Pentagon.
And I believe this is a preemptive strike to focus your mind on pedophiles or child pornographers and this crazy guy just pulled a guy out of the hat.
So it's meant to distract you.
Well, it meant to distract you from what?
From the Grassley investigation?
Yes, of course.
We don't want that to be on the news.
We don't want the Pentagon people to be on the news.
We want you to be thinking about the guy who's a camp counselor, and he could be anywhere in any of these states.
I'm not quite buying this because it's possible, but I don't see the FBI... The FBI would have to then be in cahoots with the child pornographers in the Pentagon.
Yeah!
This is big, man!
Dude!
Dude!
This is big!
This is 1,700.
There were 5,200 names.
They narrowed it down to 1,700.
I'm telling you, these child freaks, they're everywhere in the highest levels of government.
I don't think there's that many of them in the Pentagon.
But this is something fishy about this.
And you have these pictures of the guy, if you look at his poster.
He's pretty much a chameleon.
I mean, he looks to me like a...
All right.
We'll see.
Well, I mean, it's fishy.
This guy should not be on.
Why is he the ten most wanted?
He's some douchebag, you know, and there's tons of these guys.
Like the way you say it, they're all over the place.
And so why has this guy, like, been isolated?
It makes no sense.
Your argument can't be refuted on that basis.
No.
But on the other hand, it just seems a little far-fetched.
Alright?
Well, that's my theory.
I'm sticking to it.
I believe there is something behind this guy, though.
Eric Justin Toth.
What kind of a name is that?
Yeah, really?
Who cares?
Toth.
Who cares?
Whatever.
Eric Jessen, a former private school teacher, is wanted for allegedly...
And he's not even been accused of.
He's allegedly.
Yeah.
Allegedly.
Even better.
It's not like he's a guy who's been found guilty, convicted, and he escaped jail.
No, it's even better, isn't it?
Right on the FBI thing itself, it says that he's wanted for allegedly possessing child pornography in Washington, D.C. It is alleged that in June of 2008...
Images were found on a school camera.
What's that mean?
I guess it's like a little snapshot camera they had around?
They had been in Toth's possession.
This is not much of a case.
No, but they need a guy!
And then he's allegedly produced child pornography in Maryland.
Says who?
This is a phony deal.
And then I see it on the billboard?
Okay, so maybe I'm wrong.
I think there's a tip of an iceberg situation here.
I don't think it's a distraction at all.
I think there's something going on.
All right.
All right.
We shall see.
Well, the real distraction here in the United States of Gitmo Nation has just been fantastic.
The producers of the largest reality show ever, the GOP X Factor...
They decided, I guess somewhere they had a meeting and said, look, we've got to kick someone off the island because it's boring and there's nothing happening.
We need to ramp this up and get into the live shows.
We need Romney versus Obama.
So they conveniently forget that Ron Paul is still running for the Republican presidential nomination.
I know, it's funny.
So everywhere, everywhere, every station that pretends to have news says...
Well, it's all over now.
It's now on to the general election.
The race is on.
The only station that I found was C-SPAN. Here's their 20-second report.
Paul came out with a statement yesterday after Rick Santorum suspended his campaign.
He said, congratulations to the senator on running such a spirited campaign.
Dr.
Paul is now the last and real conservative alternative to Mitt Romney.
We plan to continue running hard, secure delegates, and press the fight for limited constitutional government in Tampa.
That's from the Ron Paul Institute.
Here are some comments coming in to us on Facebook regarding Santorum's decision.
See, they couldn't even stick with it for 20 seconds.
And now over to Facebook where we have to talk about Santorum again.
Someone made this guy a deal.
Someone made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
Because you remember, Santorum, he was believing it.
It was in his eyes.
This guy believed he could do it.
You know, we forgot to mention when we talked about where the conventions are taking place that the Republican convention is in Florida.
Ah, there you go.
Perfect.
Yeah, no, I agree with you.
Santorum was in the groove.
He thought he had a shot.
And, you know, some people think that Foster Freeze told him to stop.
And he said, we're not giving you any more money.
We did the calculations.
It's not going to work.
Who said Foster what?
Foster Freeze is his number one benefactor.
Oh.
No, no, no.
Someone either threatened him, which I think is likely.
I don't think he was that close to winning anything, but it's possible.
Well, the ratings were just, everyone's suffering, you know, and we needed a new race, and now we can continue, and now we've got that horse face.
Ann Romney, I'm sorry, the first horse face of America.
She's all over, and she's tweeting, and ugh.
And Romney's wife?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because she said, you know, like, oh, I was at home.
Who was it?
Some woman said she's never worked a day in her life.
So, you know, Well, let me play this first.
So there was one local station who actually, they have a little segment called Reality Check, and they did do a decent job of saying, hey, you know, there's all kinds of possibilities.
I mean, hey, Romney could fall over dead tomorrow.
Anything can happen.
You know, there's still half a year to go before the convention.
Anything could happen, so it's not over.
Over and over for the next few weeks is how by Santorum dropping out, Romney is guaranteed the nomination.
But is that true?
Look, it's anyone's guess as to where all these delegates will go.
But consider this.
In the South, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, those delegates very well may go to former Speaker Newt Gingrich, who says he's not leaving the race.
But, because those are bound states, the delegates could only vote for Gingrich in the second round.
In states like Colorado, Nevada, Minnesota, Missouri, Iowa, Oklahoma, and Kansas, because the delegates are unbound, removing Santorum from the mix will likely help Congressman Paul wrap up more delegates.
Then again, it could help Governor Romney wrap up the nomination if the delegates move that way.
Ultimately, though, we don't know what will happen yet because we don't know who these delegates are.
What we do know, there's a lot of race left with a whole new dynamic.
Now, that's a proper report.
I agree.
I agree.
Romney could come out and say, I'm a scruncher, and half the country goes, oh, no, he's a scruncher.
Anything could happen.
The guy could trip up.
Anything could go wrong.
And he's not the nominee until he's the nominee.
But now everyone is just, you know, it makes me sad, sad.
But I got very happy when I saw Bobcat Goldwaite's new movie, We didn't talk about this yet?
We talked about it.
I have two clips from the movie because it's available on...
The way he's done it, interesting.
He's made it available on Netflix and Amazon first, and then he's going into theatrical release.
And I hope for Bobcat that this movie does phenomenally well.
It is a...
Great movie.
It's called God Bless America.
Alert, alert.
Now, because he did it this way, it's already on the torrent sites.
Please, don't download it from the torrent.
If you do, for your own copy, watch it.
Pay for it.
You pay a couple bucks on Amazon or whatever.
Help the guy out.
So the premise of this movie...
And the actor's good.
I forget his name.
He's a known actor, but not that well-known, obviously.
And he's divorced, and he's watching TV, and he's seeing nothing but crap.
You know, the kind of stuff that we sit in our underwear going like, oh, my God, I can't believe this is America.
And the kind of a thread throughout the whole thing is this show called American Superstar, which is a total ripoff of American Idol.
It even has kind of the same logo.
And there's some moron who can't sing and then he becomes like the laughing stock.
Exactly like what's happening with Idol and with America's Got Talent and all this stuff.
And, you know, he's made fun of.
And he said the whole, the Kardashians, everyone, he's just freaking out about how idiotic and all people can talk about is Angelina Jolie.
He's like, what has become of our country?
And then he finds out he has a brain tumor.
So he decides, after deciding not to kill himself, First he decides to kill himself, then he sees something on the television that changes his mind.
Why should I kill myself when I can kill this person who is just annoying?
And he hooks up with this young girl, and they go on a killing spree, essentially.
I'm not going to tell you how the rest of the movie goes, but I did pull two clips.
So you actually rented the movie and watched the whole thing?
I sure did.
Oh, good for you.
And it's a short one.
It's like an hour and 40 minutes.
And the special effects, which is mainly blood, are good.
Because these people are getting shot up.
If you like guns, you'll like this.
It's just funny.
He's just shooting everybody.
Here's two monologues.
Here he is at his office.
And he's talking to some douchebag who's in the cubicle next to him.
I mean, nobody talks about anything anymore.
They just regurgitate everything they see on TV or hear on the radio or watch on the web.
When was the last time you had a real conversation with someone without somebody texting or looking at a screen or a monitor over your head?
You know, a conversation about something that wasn't celebrities, gossip, sports, or pop politics.
You know, there's something important or something personal.
So that's the first bit there.
And I was like, yeah, that hits my buttons.
That's exactly true.
And here's the second one.
Or that we're supposed to support their freedom of speech when they don't give a fuck about yours or mine.
So you're against freedom of speech now.
That's in the Bill of Rights, man.
I would defend their freedom of speech if I thought it was in jeopardy.
I would defend their freedom of speech to tell uninspired, bigoted, blowjob, gay bashing, racist and rape jokes all under the guise of being edgy.
But that's not the edge.
That's what sells.
They couldn't possibly pander any harder or be more commercially mainstream.
Because this is the, oh no, you didn't say that generation, where a shocking comment has more weight than the truth.
No one has any shame anymore.
And we're supposed to celebrate it.
I saw a woman throw a used tampon at another woman last night on network television.
A network that bills itself as today's woman's channel.
Kids beat each other blind and post it on YouTube.
I mean, do you remember when eating rats and maggots on Survivor was shocking?
It all seems so quaint now.
I'm sure the girls from Two Girls, One Cup are going to have their own dating show on VH1 any day now.
I mean, why have a civilization anymore if we no longer are interested in being civilized?
So that kind of sets it up for you.
It's an outstanding movie.
And just keep your guns locked up while you're watching it because it kind of gives you an idea to go out and just shoot everybody.
Very, very good movie.
That's our movie review for this month.
It certainly is.
I don't often give one, but that is the one I'd suggest you go and take a look, particularly because Bobcat's not a very well-known guy as a director.
As far as I know.
He's done a few movies.
He did this first movie, I think, with Shakes the Clown, which was another kind of interesting, edgy movie about a drunken clown.
And then he did a movie that I don't think has ever gotten into release, which was...
It's called The Dog or something like that.
It's probably on...
I have to look at his list of films, which is the one he could never get...
Let's see.
I think Sleeping Dog Lie.
Let Sleeping Dogs Lie.
Oh, right, right, right.
And he did...
And the movie starts off with the girl at the table, the daughter in the family dinner, talking about how she jacked off the dog.
Oh, God.
And it goes from there.
So that movie didn't get a lot of legs with Hollywood.
So he got no distribution.
Right.
So the guy needs some help.
So go buy his movie.
You can always download the torrent later, but go buy his movie.
Speaking of Hollywood for a second there, John...
Another tale of the Hollywood Whackers.
Red Book prediction.
Okay, got the Red Book in front of me.
Remember, you want to know who's next?
Madonna.
Madonna, you think so?
Yep.
What makes you think so?
Her latest album, MDNA, had the biggest second week drop in chart history.
Fell from number one down 88%, only sold 46,000 copies in the second week.
She's over, she's done with, she's toast, she's worth more dead than alive.
It's time for her to go.
So I hate to say it, because I still kind of have a soft spot for her, but I think she's next on the list.
And these things always come in threes.
So your basic thesis here is that if you're worth more dead than alive, then you're going to be dead.
Exactly.
So you don't want to be worth more dead than alive?
No.
Ever.
No.
That is my advice from the Curry Devorak Consulting Group.
If you are in Hollywood, never, ever, ever be worth more dead than alive because that's what will happen to you.
So, that is my prediction for Maddie.
Not feeling too good about it, but that's what it is.
Yeah, it's a long shot.
Write it down, man.
I wrote it down and I highlighted it.
That's what I do.
And, of course, if I could really go out on a limb, I could tell you how.
Because, you know, she's a fitness buff, so it's not...
It could be like...
Heart attack doesn't make sense for women, but they're so brazen that they might even pull that one off.
But the whole thing being MDNA, as to take off on MDMA, maybe it'll be some kind of drug overdose or something.
Plane wreck.
That's the only thing I can think is appropriate for her, is a plane crash somewhere in Africa.
Malawi.
Oh, yeah.
No, it has to be a plane wreck in some places.
How about...
In Mali or Malawi.
Well, Malawi.
That's where she buys her kids.
So how about Al-Qaeda shoots down her plane in Malawi with a stinger?
Well, actually, it would be the Al-Shabaab.
I keep it up to date.
I don't think Al-Qaeda's got the chops anymore.
El Shabab. El Shabab. El Shabab.
Yeah.
Let me see.
Well, we're on that for a second.
Yemen heating up with Al-Qaeda claiming credit for two gas pipeline attacks.
U.S. responds, kills 12 with a drone strike.
And of course, if you just Google then, Yemen, China...
SoCo International this week said it had agreed to sell its operations in Yemen to China's Sinosham Petroleum Limited for $465 million.
So, looks like they need to blow up some pipelines, get the Chinas out.
That's what it's all about.
Pakistan, they are, you know, we have a real problem with Pakistan.
Because Pakistan, we need that pipeline to go through Pakistan to get to India.
This is the TAPI pipeline.
So the news comes out, major breakthrough.
The Indian oil ministry official said, you know, we're going to sweeten the pot a little bit and we're going to give a bigger transit fee to Pakistan so they'll get 20% more gas from the pipeline.
But in the news, remember we had the guy, all of a sudden, guy we have nothing on.
He's on the friends and family list of the State Department.
Yeah, for stock.
Yeah, no, he's $10 million.
What's the name of that list again?
I don't know.
But we need to put into the mind of our people Through the media, Pakistan bad.
Pakistan is so bad that they knew Bin Laden was in Abbottabad.
And how are they going to do it?
Well, just bring out the bitches.
They were the wives of the world's most wanted terrorists.
And now for the first time, we're seeing images of Osama Bin Laden's widows and children currently under house detention in Pakistan.
Our senior international correspondent, Nick Robertson, is in London.
Let me just say something about Nick Robertson, for those of you who may have forgotten.
Nick Robertson is now the senior correspondent.
He was the satellite operator for Wolf Blitzer during Gulf War I. He literally focused the dish and twiddled the knobs, and now he's the senior correspondent.
The guy is not a journalist.
He's a compromised shill.
He's got new video of the Notorious Family.
Nick, when you first saw this video and you were there and about, about all of our viewers remember, what jumped out at you?
What jumped out, John?
What jumped out?
Yeah, what jumped out at you?
When you saw these...
I don't know.
I don't know anything jumped out.
About-about is what I like to say, though.
About-about.
About-about.
Well, the fact that the women, the mothers of these children, seem more intent on praying than they are paying attention to their children.
One of them is reading a Quran.
And a child seems to come up to her, wants some attention, and...
Go away, kid!
I'm reading the Quran here!
...indicates for it to move away, kept in very, very Spartan conditions there by the Pakistani authorities.
They're literally in a jail cell with a mattress and a bunch of kids with a stick.
This is a horrible, horrible, dehumanizing situation they put these women in.
The children have some toys.
The interior minister said that he even gave them a television in that house where they were being held before the trial.
But this appears to be very, very conservative women.
They're covered head to toe.
Listen to how he's going to spin it.
It's exactly what you would expect the type of woman to be married to Osama bin Laden.
Somebody who would have stuck out had they set foot outside that compound in a battle.
Yeah, that's the whole point.
So they're saying these women, and they're head to toe in Habibs, whatever.
Burkas.
That's the whole outfit.
It's not a burka.
There's a name for it, but it's a complete black covering.
Head to toe.
And they are everywhere in the Middle East.
If anyone's ever been anywhere in the Middle Eastern, and I'm assuming if you look at photos of Pakistan, you'll see them there too, this is not standing out.
They would have stuck out like a sore thumb, John, because they were only reading the Koran.
They would have stuck out like a sore thumb at a Rolling Stones concert, maybe.
So that's the entire purpose of this report.
Is to say, the Pakistanis, they knew!
Has anyone given anyone a really good explanation for that?
Because a lot of experts doubt the Pakistani line, although when I spoke to Peter Bergen last week, he's not convinced they necessarily knew.
Well, certainly some Pakistanis would have known, but at what level were they inside the intelligence services, or were they even anything to do with the intelligence services?
That's impossible for us to make a judgment, and there certainly are people, or would have been people right after 9-11, who would have been sympathetic to Osama bin Laden in Pakistan.
But the bottom line is we don't have a concrete answer on that, Wolfson.
Yeah, but we want to make sure you think that the Pakistanis knew.
So there's a lot of stuff going on with Pakistan.
We are not being friendly to them right now because they suck.
And that's what that's about.
I'm looking at...
I decided to go to Google and just look up various Pakistan images in religious areas.
I've got...
When I get about a third of the way down, here's a couple of women in that outfit just casually picked out.
Just random photos on Google.
And that outfit is here, it's there.
It would not be unusual to see it.
And you know in London...
You see it in London.
You see lots of women.
But you know what they're wearing underneath that?
The most expensive, sexy lingerie you can imagine.
Right.
They are completely...
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Because you see them going to Harrods, and they go straight to the lingerie department, and they are buying some amazingly hot stuff.
If you get that word out, you're going to have a bunch of punk kids just pull the outfit off.
Yeah.
That's a good way to get around in London.
Yeah, that'll work.
And then I'll quit my pipeline conversation with yet another movie!
As you know, it's very important.
Oh, wait a minute.
I actually have to play the Clippity Clop jingle.
Hold on a second.
Because Lucifer is ramping things up for Burma.
Let me give you her announcement.
Here is Lucifer.
It's Clippity Clop.
The message is clear.
It's Clippity Clop.
So she's greasing the wheels for everyone to go into Burma.
We've got to kick out the Chiners there and bring all the big Western oil companies in.
How does she do it?
Thank you all very much.
And you are in for such a treat.
This is a terrific movie.
One that I had the great privilege of watching on my way to Burma.
What a life.
He's on the plane.
Hey, Hill.
It's time to watch a movie.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Put it on the big screen.
Is there any more caviar?
Is there any more caviar?
Did you get some more champagne?
Where are the blinis?
Hey, where's my blini?
You're drinking California sparkling wine.
I want champagne.
This is crap.
What are you giving me?
Horse piss?
Michael just said, movies have such a powerful voice in our culture, in every culture, and it is both exciting and profoundly moving that filmmakers use it to do more than just entertain, although entertainment is a very important part of the human experience.
So it's very interesting.
So really, this is more than just entertaining.
You mean it's education for us, so we can all understand?
But the kind of educational and inspirational mission that Michael referred to is very important in today's world.
And this film portrays a woman whose story Needs to be in theaters and living rooms across the world.
I want to thank Chris Dodd for sponsoring the showing here tonight.
And I just really wanted to come by to underscore how important this moment in the history of Aung San Suu Kyi and Burma happened to be.
This is the film The Lady.
Oh, it's the one about that woman.
Yeah, the one that she kissed.
That has got to be dull.
Aung San Suu Kyi.
As she becomes the core of Burma's democracy movement.
So we're moving on Burma.
We're getting it all set up.
It's going to be a great, you know, they've joined the community of democracies.
And we reported on this.
Shell, BP, everyone's ready to rock and go in and take over in Burma.
Also known as Myanmar.
I like the name Burma better.
They're going to go back to it.
You watch it.
Well, clearly they're going back.
Because it's easier to sell tourism to Burma than Myanmar.
Yeah, exactly.
So, I think it's a beautiful thing.
So, before we go to the donation segment, which is coming up, I thought I was going to get something cool from...
The head of the IRS was on C-SPAN. There goes my phone.
And he...
I'm going to have to go kill this phone.
Hang on a second.
All right.
Go take it off the hook.
For those of you new to the program, Jarm actually has a phone he can take off the hook.
So you get a busy signal when you call his headquarters there in Abbottabad.
Are you back?
No, maybe he didn't take it off the hook.
Maybe he's actually talking to someone.
It's another one of those sales calls.
That's all I get.
I know, off the hook.
So anyway, I'm expecting to get some good information because tax day is coming up along with our 400th anniversary.
Yeah, it's the same day.
Go figure.
So I figure I'm going to get some good information from this guy.
So let's play the IRS guy at the National Press Club.
There are hundreds of thousands of undocumented, documented, undocumented aliens in the USA. They are taking advantage of all available social amenities.
Is the IRS doing anything to collect taxes from these documented, undocumented aliens?
You know, it's a great, it's a great question.
No, it's not a great question.
This is not a great question.
Oh, so I figured that, let's skip it.
Let's go to, he's got another one here.
Let's get to this one.
What is the agency doing to combat identity theft?
That's a great question.
No!
That's not a great question.
Not only that...
An expected question.
It's not a great question.
What is with the documented...
You can't answer.
You know, it's something you'd have to think about.
You'd have to get back to them on.
So, never mind.
Let's just go to donations.
Oh, my goodness.
Just let me ask you one question.
What is a documented, undocumented alien?
Documented, undocumented alien.
It means he's illegally in here, but he's...
And we know it.
There's some sort of a deal you make with the IRS that you can pay taxes, and so you're kind of documented, but you're not documented.
This is crazy.
Oh, that's great.
I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on the agenda.
Documented, undocumented.
In the morning.
Yeah, we do have a few people to thank for this show, 399.
Leading up to show 400, which will be on Sunday, William Che in Douglaston, New York, 16888.
He's the one who has sent us a note about the pronunciation of Huntsman and the douchebag thing.
Oh, yeah.
He says, after hearing my Huntsman karma should be used for idiots, remark.
Ha, ha, ha.
Turned red back on me on show 398.
I feel I sounded really harsh.
I'm sorry if anyone listening was put off or annoyed by that.
So here's another $168.88 for my peace of mind and to save face.
Can I have a Huntsman douchebag shot for myself for being an idiot?
Yeah, you bet.
Now, the plot thickens with William here.
Also, a clarification.
Huntsman's pronunciation was pretty good.
It was Adam's attempt to say those words that hurt my ears.
Huntsman actually has a Taiwanese Mandarin accent, which is atypical to the mainlanders' Beijing accent.
Well, now it's my fault.
Apparently.
What did I do wrong?
I don't know.
You should give yourself a douchebag.
Well, let me just do tapu atada ching-ching.
Tapu atada ching-ching.
Tapu atada ching-ching.
I think I'm pretty good.
So we have from Prague, actually, in the Czech Republic, $133.31 came in over the mail with no note.
And it was from Atta...
Kudabertiev, I think.
This could be a company, too.
I don't know.
Maybe he'll send us an email and explain who he is.
Hey, is that where the CZ handguns come from?
I don't know.
Maybe.
From the Czech Republic?
Well, CZ is what that means.
CZ? CZ? Could be.
CZ 75 Shadow.
Someone recommended that to me.
Yeah, it's an expensive hobby to become a gun collector.
Let me just tell you.
Bullets on those better guns is expensive.
Andrew Lemonsani in Parts Unknown, $101.50.
Started listening to the show about a year ago, about the time he walked out on a job he loathed.
Spent the next eight months under or underemployed, hiking in the mountains, listening to the show, defaulting on my credit cards, borrowing from my father.
It's one of our classic listeners.
Classic, yeah.
Welcome.
Needless to say, I learned a lot in this time.
I eventually landed not one, but two jobs, and now I find myself increasingly busy.
Opportunities suddenly everywhere.
I have some extra cash.
It's because he's been listening to the show.
And although I should pay my father back, it is also time I start the long road to knighthood.
I've enclosed double dimes on the nickel.
$101.50, double dimes on the nickel.
Good donation for the dyslexic value for value.
My friends, you should know that I'm not a sysadmin.
I am a lowly server in a restaurant.
Oh, right on.
Nobody wants to hire someone smart enough to have a degree in English, but dumb enough to major in the arts.
My work did afford me an interesting opportunity to be a local food critic.
To hit a local food critic in the mouth.
So he hit the local...
Oh, I'm sorry.
What am I reading here?
He hit the local food critic in the mouth while she was a woman, sat with her husband.
The endeavor garnered smiles and a nice tip to boot.
Fuck Monsanto.
How about this guy?
Just drop that bomb.
Anyway.
Because he's serving GMO snacks all day, that's why.
Alright, onward.
Sir Peter Snakes.
Peter Snakes.
In Amsterdam, 6996.
So maybe we broke our record here.
From Sir Pete.
Pete ate.
A sexy palindrome donation.
The general direction of knighthood.
Also worth a jaw, harp, an ocarina, official referee whistle, cow and dove call whistle.
Use at own discretion.
He needs an in the morning to his nephew.
In the morning!
And as for those other things, we haven't really got any of those.
And he doesn't mention that.
Oh, you got yours.
You want a jam?
Maybe later.
It's annoying.
You're right.
It sucks.
Gregory Pally.
Let me finish.
Wait a minute.
We are happy no agenda slaves.
Exactly.
I'd recognize that song anywhere.
Yeah, exactly.
Even on the slide whistle.
Gregory Malleus in Lidditz, Pennsylvania.
69-69.
The trend continues.
The streak.
Continues.
I've been a boner for far too long, he says.
Please dedouche me and send birthday karma his way.
We'll put you on the list.
And he was born in 1984, the year of Orwell, on Friday the 13th.
Since my birthday this year again falls on Friday the 13th, I thought that a donation to the best podcast in the universe would be the best way to celebrate.
Thank you very much.
You've been dedouched.
Jake Davis in Honolulu, 6969, as we continue with that little thread.
I'm a supply officer on a submarine out of Pearl Harbor, and I've been listening to the podcast since show 200.
I'd like to thank you guys for keeping me sane on our last deployment.
Oh, wow.
That's what they listen to underwater, huh?
That's cool.
During port calls, I would download months of the podcast at a time and listen to them as we were under the water.
Wow.
Last month, I introduced my brother Topher to the show, and ever since, he's been saying he's going to donate in my name.
I think to shame me for being a long-time listener without donating a whole lot.
I've made a small feud.
Small ones along the way.
Anyway, I'd like to beat him to the punch and make my own donation.
Please give Topher some karma as he just found out he's got a human resource on the way and I could use some karma too.
As my smoking hot wife and I are trying to get another human resource before I deploy again.
Oh!
Well, you can always ask the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group to come in and help you out there.
We'll be staying in his guest room of Reverend Hawaii.
Yeah.
You've got karma.
So now we can say, to all ships at and undersea.
Yeah, to all ships undersea.
Brian Burgett in Parts Unknown, 69, 69.
I think that's Sir Ryan.
Didn't he become a nut?
I think so.
I said Brian, too.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Do we have a mail from him?
What?
You know, I get one bit.
Yeah.
I knew you would get pissed off.
One bit.
But I can actually play a song.
Playing a song is not the same as accompaniment.
Well, I just want to jam with you, man.
Yeah, we'll think about it.
Anyway, 6969, Thomas Kilbright in Waco, Texas, which is right up the street from you, 6666.
Derby Dyke in Tucson, Arizona, $60.
Mary D in 5510, double equals on the dime.
Last time donated, she asked her job.
Carmen, no surprise, here.
It worked.
So I'm donating the first bonus from my new job.
I also want to share my Gardasil story.
A few years back, I was at my yearly visit to the vagina doctor, and she asked if I had had the shot.
I told her no, and I wasn't interested.
I'm married, and it's my understanding that it was more for ladies with multiple partners.
Her reply, you never know.
Your husband could cheat on you, or you could be raped.
Oh my goodness, really?
That was the first and last time I saw her.
Wow.
So anyway, you can play the Michelle Obama clip from the Christmas Inviting the Child on Stage.
Come on up here.
Yes, hold on a second.
It's become a common phrase at our home, and our cats love it.
Here we go.
Yes, here's a little one.
You come on up.
Ah!
You cursed rat!
Look what you've done!
I'm melting!
Melting!
Ah!
The bone!
The bone!
By your command.
It's a classic.
Hey, that's a great story.
Thank you.
I can't believe it.
And you're right on.
You can believe it.
Tell that doctor to go to hell.
Your husband could cheat on you.
What a horrible thing to say.
Yeah, and I could kick you in the teeth.
Just an idea.
Kyle Kinzel in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Double nickels on the dime.
Please douchebag the boners and give karma to the donors.
Okay.
Also, as someone who has a music degree, I can say with certainty that the slide whistle is awesome!
Douchebag!
You've got karma.
I'm not playing mine anymore.
I'm afraid now because...
No, no, we're going to play the...
I've got a moment where we can play it.
Oh, really?
Somebody, I think, wanted a...
We can play together?
I don't know if it came in on the notes or not.
Can we play together?
No, if somebody wanted a hit at the end, and I don't have it on this list.
A hit song, you mean?
They wanted a Karma with a slide whistle stinger.
And I sent it, I think I sent it over to JC. I don't think I have it.
We may have to do that on Sunday.
I just want to play a song.
I want to play a song.
I want to jam.
Can you do Jumpin' Jack Flash?
No.
We're onward.
Maxwell Roberts in Crown Point, Indiana.
Messieurs Dvorak and Curry.
I forgot to include my no with my double nickel on the dime donation.
I'd like a double D douching for Scott McLaughlin.
He's now a donor, not a boner.
And Prime Minister Harper for all the great things he's doing in Canada, like actually passing a budget on time.
Good stuff.
Okay.
De-douching.
You've been de-douched.
Not sure everyone agrees with the Harper, but okay.
I'm sure everybody doesn't.
Alexander Walter, Lenexa, Kansas.
Fifty dollars.
Alf Morgan, John and Adam.
I'm writing to request...
I'm writing to request...
Do that again.
I'm more than...
I'm writing to request a correction to a recent bookkeeping error in show 391.
My wife Stacy sent in $200 to the show on behalf of my three children so I could be an executive producer on my birthday.
Unfortunately, you recorded Stacy as the executive producer.
Oh, no!
Indicates she was birthday wishes to her father.
Well, this did provide us for some great who's your daddy jokes during the next weekend.
Please credit the money to me so I can someday reach my goal.
Yeah, you know, you do your own bookkeeping and you get the credits.
I like it.
He used to see his wife walking around like, who's your daddy?
That's funny.
He's submitting this remittance as a wedding present.
Please send out some wedding karma to my friend Brooke and her fiancé Jason who will be married this Saturday.
I wish them all the best as they start a new life together.
It sounds like she'll need the karmic help to keep her douchebag father from making a scene at the ceremony.
Hail the foot.
You've got karma.
I'm assuming that your spank father does not listen to our show.
George Scanlon, Carpentersville, Illinois, $50.
Tristan Wilson-Kerrigan from Patbury in Western Australia, $50.
Alan Levine for Congress Committee.
He's our would-be congressman in the White House connection to the show.
I know, as promised, you may not know, but I suspect you do, as you have similar problems, but raising money for a campaign is very difficult, so any help to channel your listeners to the campaign website and donate is really appreciated.
I'm serious.
If I'm elected, I'll remember my friends.
What's his website again?
I think it's alanlevineforcongress.com.
Yeah, I believe so.
But if you Google Allen, A-L-L-A-N-L-E-V-E-N-E, if you Google him, you'll find it.
Gert van Tripp.
$50.
And that closes the donation segment for show 399.
I want to thank everybody for helping us.
And go to NoGenereshow.com, NoGenereshow.com, Dvorak.org, slash NA, and Channel Dvorak.
Yes, and of course we have the big 400 show coming up on Sunday.
I'm sure a lot of people are holding back for that.
And we have the 404 show coming up right after that.
Well, you should definitely remember the 420 show.
And there's another one.
Somebody mentioned that we should do a 411 celebration because we're an informational show.
Are we doing a 400.5?
Is that something you want to do?
I don't know.
Maybe.
I mean, I'd like to.
I don't know how many people are interested.
The 200.5 show, people can still listen to that.
Let me think about it.
What we should do is the two of us should listen to 200.5 and see what's changed.
Why don't we...
We can listen to the show and then comment on it and record that.
I was thinking that.
Exact same thing.
Old-fashioned radio stuff.
It's like a clip show.
Yeah, like the Muppets.
Like those two old Muppet dudes.
Let's listen to ourselves talk.
And then maybe throw in a one-liner once in a while.
I love it.
Dvorak.org slash N-A.
It's your birthday, birthday.
On no agenda.
I get this fitted in once in a while.
John Johnson Jr.'s fiancé, happy birthday.
Bruce Salkowitz congratulates his wife.
She celebrates on the 16th.
Paul Boyer turns 42 today.
And Gregory Malius, he turns 28 on the 13th.
Happy birthday from all your buddies here at The Best Podcast in the Universe.
And we have a couple of nights today, John.
As you know, people are getting in.
They want to have a ring.
We'll be suspending the ring campaign at the end of the year.
And there will be a new recognition that we send out to everybody.
A tribute.
A tribute?
Is that what it is?
I know what it is.
It's kind of a tribute.
It'll be a thing.
It'll be a nice thing.
So we're going to come up with a new beautiful item.
That you can wear on your person.
And of course, the Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable, they will continue.
And it's very important.
Our knights are the ones that actually keep us going in the leaner times.
So if you can grab your blade there for a second.
Jules van der Meer, David Rudolf Bucker, and Kathy Simonich.
Siminich!
Siminich!
Step forward, please.
All three of you have donated to the No Agenda podcast in the amount of $1,000 or more.
We highly appreciate that.
And therefore, we induct you into the Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable, so I hereby pronounce the Sir Jule, Sir Daffet, and Dame Cathy, all knights and a dame of the No Agenda Roundtable, hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, wenches and beer, and hot pants and booze for you.
Thank you so much.
This is the model that we've chosen.
And it's interesting to see how the model is morphing a little bit as times get tougher.
People sending us coins, silver and gold coins.
People sending us food.
It's all appreciated.
Thanks again to Healthysurprise.com.
Joe over there sent us a nice box of healthy, gluten-free, vegan snacks.
Tasty.
Yeah.
You know, these things are funny.
We've actually done a...
Now, normally when you're doing these social shows, you don't accept food.
It's not really a good policy.
Because you don't want to eat it because you might die from what someone puts in it.
Yeah.
But we know this guy, so we're...
No problem.
So immediately there's a big thing of...
It's interesting because there's a whole subculture Of snack makers that are out of the mainstream and they make snacks for these, you know, I guess, I don't know, these little small stores and vegan, vegan places.
Like this one, Kayaya Foods that make this.
Oh yeah, no, it's a whole industry.
Absolutely.
A bag of alive and radiant kale crunch, which I can assure you is not edible.
Mickey loves the kale.
No.
Miss Mickey digs the kale, man.
Well, we had somebody at the...
I took the bag of kale chips, which is in the last batch, which to me was like eating lawn clippings.
And I took it to the office and everybody...
Except one person, the vegan there.
I think something goes wrong with your brain.
The vegan loved it.
Loved the stuff.
I think she may have just been putting it on.
There is one thing in this box that is outstanding.
The chocolate.
I haven't had the chocolate yet.
It's this Samba 99 Kapua Su antioxidant bar.
It's shaped like a triangle.
When you take it out of the box, if you have it there, it looks like a gob of goo.
And it's organic kapua soup pulp, some Brazil nuts, and some cane sugar.
It's absolutely fantastic.
You can't eat the whole thing.
You can cut it up into like four pieces.
It's very tasty.
I would eat this.
I'll have it right after the show, if Mickey hasn't already scarfed it.
No, there's two of them in there.
Oh, good.
Miss Mickey loves...
When the box arrives, she's like, oh...
So we got...
I'm looking at some of our back...
We've been taking notes and giving stars.
Oh, with the Dvorak family there?
Yep, the whole group.
And the ones we really like so far are the Wasabi Roasted Seaweed Snacks from Annie Chun.
Five stars or six.
Also, we put Wow behind Mrs.
May's Pineapple.
Which is just a pineapple piece.
I think you can keep this stuff forever, right?
For the nuclear holocaust?
It looks like it, from the looks of it...
Yeah, yeah, it looks radiation proof.
There's someone in the chat room going like, no ads, my ass, these guys are doing a commercial.
Yeah, yeah.
Rawvolution's another one of these brands.
Apple Raisin Cookies.
And it's like, I'm sure this is a, yeah, this is a commercial.
This stuff I'm guaranteeing is not edible.
Wow.
Hey, you have a subscription, I believe.
Have you checked the New York Times?
Is Syria in the news, John?
Well, let's grab today's paper.
Yeah, why don't you take a look at the...
I got the front page right in front of me.
Okay.
Okay, what do you think would be...
Well, here, let's do an Ask Adam.
I'm going to ask you to guess what the top headline is.
Do you want to do the Ask Adam jingle, or should I just...
Yeah, give it the jingle.
Okay, let's get an Ask Adam jingle out here.
Ask Adam. Ask Adam. Ask Adam. Ask Adam.
Alright.
Okay.
I could have made that shorter.
What do I think the headline is?
Top headline with photo.
Scroll across the very top of that paper.
Assad deadline approaches.
Syria on the hook.
Prosecutor files charge of second-degree murder and shooting of Martin.
The picture of the family.
Huge picture.
Is there something below the fold?
Also above the fold is Amazon to cut e-book prices.
Damn.
Few options as North Korea nears launching.
Wealthy group seeks to reform election giving.
And now below the fold, we've got Romney taking steps to narrow his gender gap.
I think if he zipped up, it would help.
Yeah.
Britain and Chinese scandal from harrow to mysterious victim.
There is nothing on Syria?
I'm going, I'm going.
Now they have the little blurbs at the very bottom, just above the Conrad Hotel advertisement on the front page.
International, A4-10.
Deadline near for Syria.
A ceasefire is scheduled to take place soon in Syria, but diplomats are already looking at backup options and the role that Russia may play in them.
And also then the next one is antibiotics and livestock.
First Algerian president dies, which is probably something.
Drug maker fined 1.2 billion.
Yeah.
So let me, so something is happening with Syria.
Well, let me look on page A4 and see what it says here.
Okay, so there's two things going on.
The first one is, here's the 30-second clip, which is extremely important.
Walking a fine line, as tens of thousands of refugees have crossed this Syrian border into Turkey, keeping the peace here has not been easy.
And now the violence has spilled over, Syrian gunfire reaching across the border and into a refugee camp as government forces pursued fleeing members of the Free Syrian Army.
Turkey started talking of setting up a buffer zone to ensure the security of its southern border and to protect civilians fleeing from violence in Syria.
This also raised serious concerns that that could undermine diplomatic efforts to end the conflict by setting the stage for fully-fledged foreign military intervention.
So Turkey, of course, is the country where the Friends of Syria, or actually the new branding Friends of the Syrian People, multi-party talks were held.
So Turkey is extremely important.
And when they say they're setting up a buffer zone, I've looked at the map.
So Syria and Turkey border on each other.
Guess which side the buffer zone is on.
It's on the Syrian side.
So that is, by definition, that is an invasion of their turf.
So they've set up this...
So now we have firing on the border.
We have...
Now, all of a sudden...
Where it was only in Holmes.
And this is way down from the border, by the way.
Holmes and...
What's the other one?
Bob Amon?
I can't remember the name of it.
Yeah, whatever.
I mean, we're not on television.
We don't need to be exact.
Well, don't get so antsy with me.
Go on.
You know, I'm looking at pictures just to interrupt.
You tell me to go on, then shut up.
Go on, shut up.
What am I? On page A4, they have this picture of Holmes.
Did you see any pictures of what they did to this place?
It looks like Lebanon.
So, here's what happens, John.
When you fire upon the buffer zone or the border of a NATO-based country, Rule 5 goes into effect.
You know what Rule 5 is, don't you?
I'm going to find out shortly.
Well, this is what NATO is all about.
Rule five is where if any NATO country is attacked, all other NATO countries have to come to its aid.
Right.
So, what do we need to do?
We need to roll out the script.
Who do we bring in to roll out the same sorry-ass script?
I mean, identical to it.
Three people are needed for this script, for this play to play out.
One, Anderson Pooper.
Two...
I don't know.
You're telling me.
John McCain.
Oh, God, yes.
Three.
Sarkozy.
Joe Lieberman.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
The same stooges.
The three stooges.
That's right.
I have edited down...
Which one is curly?
I have edited down the conversation they had on Anderson Pooper's show.
We will have to interrupt it frequently, mainly because you'll be going, ugh!
Here is the conversation.
They are there on the border.
They made a little trip.
Hold on a second.
You're telling me that those two boneheads have actually gone there?
Yeah.
They're there now.
They had a little road trip.
And with perks, as you'll hear Lieberman say, and listen to them unfold the exact same script with John McCain in the lead, and he actually interrupts Lieberman at one point to make sure that the message is very, very clear.
Senators John McCain and Joe Lieberman also toured the camps today on a separate trip than Anon's, getting a better reception than Mr.
Anon.
They spoke by phone.
Senator McCain, the Syrian government agreed to withdraw its troops from major cities by today as part of Kofi Annan's peace plan.
Has the UN been played here?
I love this.
It's Anderson with his hip talk.
Have they been played?
Yeah, have they been played?
It sounds like a leading question.
Well, guess what?
Clearly they've gone beyond the deadline.
Oh, I think it's very obvious they've been played, just like the Arab League proposed it.
It's in the script!
Let's all say played.
That sounds cool.
All the kids will love it.
...that Bashar Assad had agreed to before they were played.
The fact is, Anderson, that if Bashar Assad would draw us from the city, then the protesters obviously take over.
Trojan!
Protesters?
Oh no, it gets better than that.
They're not just protesters.
Do that.
Resistance will take over the cities the moment the tanks and artillery are withdrawn.
This man can't be trusted.
To me, one of the most profoundly troubling parts of the trip...
A perk of the trip.
One of the perks of the trip.
Profoundly troubling perks.
With all the hookers you got, Lieberman.
John McCain and I have made...
He said parts.
He said perks.
He said parts.
He said perks.
Play it again.
Yeah, hold on.
I will.
This man can't be trusted.
To me, one of the most profoundly troubling parts of the trip...
No, I said parts.
You're right.
I'm sorry.
It sounded like perks to me.
...that John McCain and I have made these last couple of days is talking to the Syrian opposition, to the pre-Syrian army, and to find, notwithstanding all the sympathetic statements from world leaders, they've basically gotten zero.
They're running out of ammunition.
They don't...
They're running out of ammo!
They don't have bullets, and they're being fired at every day.
So, no, I think the answer is that we've got to arm the Syrian opposition, and only one...
And by the way, while this is playing, they've got a guy...
Who's shooting a machine gun in the back.
No, it's a close-up shot, or like an upper-body shot, and the guy's looking out the window, and then he's taking an aim, and he's taking an aim, looking out the window, because it's a total PR shot.
The guy is obviously not shooting at someone who's shooting back.
Assad feels threatened by that kind of counterattack.
We'll even think about leaving, hopefully.
Now get ready for it.
Or going to real negotiations.
Look, we've met with these people, and any of our colleagues in Karen Gowdhury, Hey, come on down.
There's a party over here.
Come on down to the border.
You should meet with them.
It's cool.
They're all nice.
They're patriots.
They're patriots, John.
Patriots of what?
They're patriots!
They're not extremists, and they all said to us, if the U.S. and the moderate Arab world doesn't get involved in helping them, then there will be an opening for al-Qaeda and the Islamist extremists.
Oh, so if we don't do it, al-Qaeda's gonna come in?
Oh, okay.
Are they consulting with Al Sharpton?
Get ready.
We can't let that happen.
It's not a fair fight.
It's not a fair fight!
It's not fair!
It's not a fair fight.
Don't we at some point say, enough of the slaughter?
Slaughter!
The United States wants to give them communications equipment.
You know, communications equipment doesn't do very well against helicopters, tanks, and artillery.
And I understand the reluctance of the American people.
Now, what is communications equipment good for?
It's good for directing airstrikes from NATO, which are coming, and John McCain will explain that to you.
But the job of leaders of the American people is to explain why we should do what we can to stop this.
Aha!
So, here's the message.
American leaders need to explain to the American public why we're going to do what we need to do.
Another war.
Why we're doing another war.
And I think that a sanctuary would be very important.
A no-fly zone.
A no-fly zone!
No!
No-fly zone.
The Prime Minister of Turkey alluded to it today.
I think that See, the Prime Minister of Turkey, very important, because they're going to be attacked.
We talked about this months ago.
Turkey will be attacked, NATO attack, in come the planes.
The world is getting sick of this slaughter.
We're sick of the slaughter.
Maybe, just maybe, we're starting some movement in the right direction.
Maybe.
Senator Lieberman, there are a lot of Americans who say, look, and John and Senator McCain alluded to it, who say, look, another military involvement by the U.S. overseas.
To them, you say, well...
Well, I say two things.
The first is...
Now listen, Lieberman's going to go off script and McCain will jump in to rectify.
We've got a moral responsibility here.
John, we have a moral responsibility.
We need to start another war.
That's more.
Don't you feel moral about it?
Not me.
The world does.
You can't just stand by and watch people being slaughtered.
Hopefully we've progressed some.
What is the definition of a slaughter, by the way?
I guess when someone puts you on a thing and they take the cuts of meat off, I have no idea.
Or they just cut your throat?
I don't know.
From that point of world history, the second is...
We never do anything for the slaughter in Africa, but that's okay.
Listen, did you hear it?
Very subtle.
He says...
Play it again, I missed it.
From that point of world history, he's equating it to the Holocaust.
Oh, yeah.
Lieberman.
He's like, oh, it's a slaughter.
We can't have it.
Never again.
From that point of world history.
The second is, every day that we do nothing, it's not just the Syrian people that suffer.
Assad that wins and Iran wins.
Oh, Iran!
Oh, great, let's tie in Iran.
If we can help bring down Assad, it's a tremendous strategic victory for us against Iran.
So that's like a two for one.
Come on, this is getting better.
Oh yeah, here it comes.
So he brings in the Iran, and then McCain jumps on him.
Against Iran.
But, you know, I want to come back.
Before you go on, could I just add one point to that?
There would be no American boots on the ground, and this would be a multinational effort.
Ah, there it is.
No boots on the ground, a multinational effort.
This would be a multinational effort.
I.E., NATO. This guy is crazy, this McCain guy.
Go ahead.
All he wants is war, war, war.
The guy's unbelievable.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're almost done.
McCain wraps it up in an unbelievable way, by the way.
Go ahead, John.
No, no, it's okay.
I just want to focus on one thing.
In my opinion, and this is exactly the answer we got from the Syrian National Council, the political leadership, and the Free Syrian Army leadership.
They want weapons, and they just want us to give them the opportunity to defend themselves and their families.
These are wonderful and brave people who share our values.
No, they don't.
They share our values.
What?
They share our values.
It gets better.
The rights and...
The same human rights and everything.
Yeah, they're just like us.
Our rights, and frankly, they do look to the United States for America.
I'm glad they do.
I just hope that we'll give them something that will authenticate their faith and belief in us.
Yes.
Thank you.
These guys are warmongers.
Oh, it's unbelievable.
So that's the setup.
I mean, that's why I'm surprised the New York Times isn't all over it.
Well, I guess the Zimmerman thing just blew it off the front page.
Oh, yeah, the Zimmerman thing is where they're going.
But I'm looking at this picture, and by the way, this picture comes from the Sham News Network.
We talked about them before.
It's getting interesting.
I'm doing some research on some of the people there.
But anyway, the Sham News Network has this picture of Homs, the downtown area that looks like it probably was a shopping district.
It looks like it's totally messed up.
It's unbelievable.
It looks like the worst picture you saw from Lebanon.
It's like, you know, you guys did this to Lebanon, we're going to do it to you.
Yeah.
Anyway, so watch for it to happen.
Turkey gets attacked.
That's why Turkey is in the news.
And there was something else.
I read that there was a really weird...
Let me see if I can find this.
There was an agreement.
What was it called?
I've been looking at this material, too, and it seems to me as though it still boils down to nothing that these idiots said, but there is a huge, you know, another battle between the Shia and the Sunnis.
Yeah, that's the whole point, is to get those two fighting.
And that's what's going on here.
Yeah, that's the whole point.
So, the Brussels-EU Commission...
I don't have the document yet, so I can't speak on complete authority.
They had a vote dated March 30th, 2012.
A proposal for decision to grant Turkish citizens the same residency and labor rights in Europe as all existing EU citizens.
I thought that was really interesting.
Tell me that one again.
So, the European Commission in Brussels...
They've released a document, which I don't have a copy of yet, March 30, 2012, a proposal for decision to grant all Turkish citizens the same residency and labor rights in Europe as existing EU citizens.
You can cross borders and work in any country you want.
Right, right.
They need the Turk Labor Force.
I mean, the Turk Labor Force is essentially the one that's been powering Germany.
Even though there's a bunch of backlash against it, but there's a lot of Turks in Germany.
And the document specifically adds, quote, a first package with similar proposals in respect to Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Croatia, and the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, even Israel, adopted by the council in October 2010 to bring it in line with the Turkish proposals.
Israel.
Yeah, I know.
How did they get in the EU all of a sudden?
You just put down, you know, the Congo while you're at it.
Yeah, why not?
Wow.
I'll tell you what's going to happen.
Something's up with Liberia.
Have you noticed a lot of...
Is there anything in the Times about Liberia?
Well, not on the front page, obviously, since we went over that, and I haven't seen anything.
Let me go to the international section.
I saw a big report on CNN about Liberia, and then NPR does this, and I think they're getting another setup.
Now, Liberia obviously has a huge mining...
If you want to know the...
What did I see here about Liberia?
There was something interesting in there.
Hold on.
Here we are.
China assists Liberian state media.
They're building a new broadcast forum.
China Union concession company has an agreement with the government of Liberia to take over the facilities of the BMC. $2.6 billion deal.
This is all news from this week.
So Liberia, we've got the Chinas in there.
We've got to kick them out.
How do we start?
Well, Al-Qaeda, we've done that.
Let's pull out a...
You have a different script?
Hey, you got another script for Liberia?
Yes, boss.
Let's try this one.
...encounters there are already illegal, punishable by up to a year in jail.
But some lawmakers have introduced new measures that would target gays with much tougher punishments.
Of equal concern to LGB rights supporters, anti-LGBT rhetoric is escalating outside of government.
For example...
A group calling itself the Movement Against Gays in Liberia, or MOGAO, has been distributing a hit list of people who support gay rights, stating that these people, quote, should not be given space to get a gulp of air.
All right.
They're killing gays down there.
We got to move in some drones.
Can't be killing.
Because we can kill gays more efficiently?
Can't be killing gays, man.
Can't be killing gays.
How do you connect this to China?
I just read you the whole thing.
The Chinese are buying a $2.6 billion mining outfit.
Yeah, I know that, but how are they going to connect gays to the Chinese to rouse the Chinese?
It's the same thing as Uganda.
Remember all the anti-gay things?
So then we move in.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
We got it.
Whoever's in charge there.
Yeah, we kind of have to move in and then we just bump.
It's like walking into a room and then you do a hip check.
A hip check.
Exactly.
Sorry.
Out of the way.
Out of the way.
Out of the way, Chiners.
Yeah.
Oh, that's how I do it.
Yeah, maybe.
Liberia.
Keep your eye on Liberia.
Something going on.
All right.
I only have one more thing, so why don't you wrap it up with whatever you've got there.
The last couple of things, by the way, I'm looking at the New York Times website, and they really don't have much going on.
The Liberian thing is not being picked up by the New York Times, it seems.
Okay.
Well, we'll stay tuned for it.
Okay.
So let's see.
I got a couple of...
I think there's a...
I think that the Republicans are making a move toward embarrassing Obama about his stance on legalizing drugs.
And I noticed that there's a couple of things going on.
One, it was on the McLaughlin report, where McLaughlin reports on this, actually, in the Guatemala situation where they had a...
The president of Guatemala says that they should not only legalize drugs, but any time that Americans confiscate any drugs that pass through Guatemala, the Guatemalans want compensation.
It's a weird report, but play it.
Issue 3, the war on drugs.
A shocker.
The president of Guatemala, a Central American country, has proposed an extremely controversial agenda item for the upcoming summit.
Drug legalization.
Drugs and drug violence are plaguing much of Central and South America.
So, listen carefully.
The President of Guatemala has proposed a regional court to try drug traffickers and to decriminalize the transport and consumption of drugs and getting economic compensation from the United States for drugs seized in the U.S. On compensation,
he said, quote, for every kilo of cocaine that is seized, we want to be compensated 50% by the consumer countries, unquote.
The U.S. has a, quote, unquote, responsibility, he says, to reimburse drug producers.
Because the U.S. has one of the highest rates of drug use on the planet.
Legalizing drug use is a thorny issue itself, and some say outlandish for a U.S. president running for re-election.
So isn't that the wacky story of the day?
That's great!
Now, so he continues on discussion asking Pat Buchanan, of all people, about legalizing drugs.
And Buchanan, as a good operative, actually, without him just coming out and saying that it's probably the thing to do, he makes this commentary, which I thought was quite interesting.
The U.S. war on drugs has been going on since 1971, first declared by someone Patrick Buchanan worked for, President Richard M. Nixon, who resigned from office later.
Has the war on drugs been swept under the rug, and is it a failure, Patrick?
Yes.
Look, what's happening in Mexico, Mexico's at war with these cartels, you've got Latin America, all of these areas, John, have really been huge amounts of criminality because of the demand in the United States for drugs.
We've criminalized an awful lot of people in this country, but the problem is you've got horrendous alternatives.
You legalize drugs and you let a significant part of your society, especially young people, be destroyed.
You fight the war on it and you create all these criminals.
You got, as I wrote in my book, John, you got Milton's solution or Mao's solution.
Milton Friedman says legalize them all and forget it.
That solves it.
Mao says we kill everybody, the drug dealers and the drug users.
He solved it.
But we're not going to do either one.
I think we're going to limp along.
But eventually my guess is that people who say legalize are going to win.
So there's a little wrench in the works.
That's a big deal.
And he did mention, he threw the name, I name dropped.
And he did it in a great way.
I mean, this is the propagandistic way to do it.
First, you mentioned the great economist, so far as the Republicans and conservatives are concerned, Milton Friedman.
So you mentioned him, and he says to just legalize it and let the chips fall where they may.
And then to make it even more obvious what side you're on, then you quote Mao Zedong.
Yeah, well, why not?
Who says you kill everyone.
So which side are you on?
Are you on the right side of history or on the wrong side of history?
Are you on the Mao side?
You want to kill everybody who uses drugs or you want to be like Milton Friedman?
You want to be good or do you want to be like that?
So the ball has started rolling.
And curiously, I think it began with Pat Robertson.
I think he's the one who sent the first message out, like, okay, boys, let's go this way.
Let's roll it, yeah.
Meanwhile, of course, in California, they're cracking down on the drug operations that are legal.
Oaksterdam.
Oaksterdam, for one.
And it's all Obama doing it, who promised he'd never do this, and he's doing it, I think, is becoming very embarrassing.
He's going to have to put a stop to it, although, I don't know, apparently the law enforcement community is out of control.
And talking about out-of-control law enforcement, they had a report came down just the other day on the Davis police, the two jerk-offs that sprayed everywhere, that pepper spray, and they cracked down on them, and there's a little punchline at the end of this report that I think everyone should pay attention to.
It's getting on my nerves.
The task force report on last winter's pepper spraying of students peacefully protesting at UC Davis slams the campus police for using excessive force.
It also blames administrators for creating the environment that allowed it to happen.
The report says pepper spraying the students was a disproportionate response.
The task force is recommending a top-to-bottom review now of what it calls the dysfunctional UC Davis Police Department.
The way that the police force went about handling things that day is not the same that a veteran of the police department in L.A. would do.
It's not the same a veteran.
Actually, it's just not what a well-trained police officer is supposed to do.
UC Davis says it is preparing a response.
The two campus cops who sprayed the protesters in this video and its police chief are on paid administrative leave.
That's forced vacation.
Yeah, I'd love that.
Give me a paid administrative leave.
Paid.
Paid administrative leave is forced vacay.
You don't have to work anymore.
We'll just pay you.
There's a huge scandal in New York about all the cops that are essentially...
Paid administrative leave, yeah.
They're just on permanent paid administrative leave.
Awesome.
So, there's a couple other little items that might be interesting...
Apparently, in fact, JC dug these up.
It looks like the USGS came out with a report this month, which we'll put a link to the show notes, concluding fracking causes earthquakes.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, we knew this, right?
For years.
I mean, it's just because it's obvious.
They start fracking in an area, and then you have all these little earthquakes, and they get bigger or smaller.
And it's actually been tested in the state of California some years back.
Did some crazy lubricate the fault line test.
I think it was in the 50s.
The USGS, United States Geological Survey, is that what they're called?
Yeah.
They were up in Seattle.
And the report was they're predicting the big one.
The big one's coming.
And I think they're just shields for Agenda 21, just to bring it all full circle.
Listen to it.
Seattle was advised today it needs to do more to prepare itself for a major earthquake.
Coma Force Tricia Manning-Smith reports on a new research that was presented to the City Council today and introduces us to some West Seattle residents who are waiting for history to repeat itself.
That's very likely in the next 50 years.
Today, scientists...
50 years, by the way.
Oh, hey.
50 years.
The next 500 years.
Yeah, well, that's in my red book.
But listen to what they're also recommending.
The U.S. Geological Survey warned there's an 84% chance.
84% chance, John.
Not 83%.
Not 85, 84% in the next 50 years.
Another 6.5 magnitude deep quake will happen in 50 years.
And by the way, the first 6.5 was when they were still using the Richter scale.
6.5 these days is like just a...
You don't know what it means.
It's a bone rattler.
It's nothing.
Also today, geologists revealed possible new changes to the area's hazard maps, which planners use for emergencies and which may impact future building codes.
Ah, really?
Really?
Future building codes.
Sustainable materials.
I'm feeling it.
The USGS is being used as a pawn.
Yeah, I'd say.
Well, at least in that regard.
I like the USGS. They have a little earthquake site, and when you have a little shaker, you can go to the site and tell them what you felt, and they can adjust the number.
You won't wind up with a little tech thing that I think figured out?
Okay.
A little techno expert thing.
So this was a...
I got this report from the Wall Street Journal site.
They have video on the Wall Street Journal where they get like a bunch of douche knuckles sitting down there and talking out of their butthole, literally.
This is about the plan to create a central database of cell phones.
Have you followed this story at all?
No.
For those who lose things, the U.S. is planning a database of stolen and lost cell phones.
George, you have this story.
This is actually from Rolf Winkler.
You couldn't be with us today.
A front page story.
Growing problem of theft of cell phones and also people losing them too.
So how does this work?
Well, this seems to be a good first step.
They're starting a national database to keep track of all phones that are reported as stolen, and the carriers have agreed to turn off or disable the phones from being able to use voice or data, and it will be a way to...
You can hear the way the guy is stuttering, that he doesn't really believe his own story.
So the story here, and this goes on forever.
You can listen to the whole clip.
The story is the government and the carriers are creating a database.
They say of stolen cell phones, but that's bull crap.
Every single cell phone in the United States will be in this registry.
And what they're saying, the reason is, is if it gets stolen, particularly if you have a Verizon or what is the other one that has a CDMA that doesn't use a SIM card?
As far as I know, only Verizon uses CDMA. Oh, that's another one.
But this isn't based on that.
It's based on the serial numbers that are built on all the phones.
No, I know.
But the story goes on.
It's like, well, you can just remove your SIM card.
No, no, that's not true.
I understand.
But the lie here is that they're building this registry...
In order to block these phones, if they're stolen, therefore make them less desirable to crooks.
Yeah.
I believe there's something else going on here.
You don't think it's just to sell more phones?
Well, no.
It is for profit.
And a lot of people are saying, oh, you know, the government, man, they're going to be tracking you and all this.
No.
Are you familiar with the UMA, also known as Yuma?
What about it?
This is a protocol which is just maturing now.
UMA stands for User Managed Access.
You'll like looking into this.
This sits on top of OpenID as well as OAuth2.
And you thought that Facebook and Twitter and all those guys, that they were going to be tracking you and selling your data.
Uh-uh.
Here's what's happening.
The phone carriers are now jumping on board with this UMA. UMA means user managed access.
So when you're in this database, and it's all about this centralized database, that's why they want to have it, you will be making deals with your cell phone company as to what piece of data about you you're going to give up.
That's what the user managed part is about.
The cell phone companies have finally figured out that they are the ones who can make...
Just hundreds of billions of dollars on selling your information.
And this is the first setup to it.
And of course the government will get their piece of it as well.
So you'll say, hey, you want a $200 Groupon certificate?
Well, just allow us to sell the information about your age or about your billing address, which of course the carriers have.
So keep your eye on this UMA thing.
I like this.
I could crank out a quick column with that idea.
I think you can do three columns on this.
I don't know about that.
I could over time.
But it goes all the way to, do you agree to these non-disclosure terms?
Can you confirm that your privacy...
Yeah, people will sign off on anything.
I mean, we know that from the Facebook experience.
But Facebook is...
They're going to be shutting Facebook out.
Facebook will have to come to them.
The carriers have done the deal with the government...
They will be the middlemen between your information and everybody else, including the government.
So you're actually going to wind up giving them all this great data.
A lot of it's confirmed because the carriers know where they're sending your bill.
They know your credit card number.
They know where you are.
Which you can also say, oh yeah, go ahead, you know, tell everyone where I am and give me some benefits for that.
This is going to be huge.
Here's UMA explain on one of the websites.
For example, a web user authorizing user can authorize a web app requester to gain one-time or ongoing access to a resource containing his home address stored at a personal data store.
Service host by telling the host to act on access decisions made by his authorization decision-making service authorization manager.
The requesting party might be an e-commerce company whose site is acting on behalf of the user himself to assist him in arranging for shipping or a purchased item.
Or it might be his friend who is using an online address book service to collect addresses.
Or it might be a survey company that uses an online service to compile population demographics.
You know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to throw out all my cell phones.
I'm done with it.
Who needs it?
You're ridiculing me for having a landline.
No, in fact, I want a John C. Devorak landline with a really long extension cord so I can drive all over Austin and still be connected.
That's it.
Get your ham license and just stay on the VHF all over Austin.
There's plenty of hams around there.
Can you create a full-time data link that way?
No.
You could, but they won't let you.
So really, we need to go back to the idea of everyone using each other's Wi-Fi, right?
But that's kind of dead.
That idea is kind of gone, I guess.
This is pretty good thinking.
Whoever's behind this has got their...
Oh, you want to see who's behind it?
AT&T, Verizon, Oracle.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It's huge.
I would say it was all the carriers.
It would be Cisco.
It would be probably Intel and everybody that's just out to make as much money as they can.
You can take a look at it in the show notes.
399.nashownotes.com And that will give you all the links to this UMA thing.
This is a big deal.
And no one's talking about this.
And it's going to completely usurp Facebook and Twitter and all these guys who think they got it.
And Google, by the way.
This is the big fight.
But the carriers, man, they've got it.
And these guys, you know, they'll sell you down the road.
They don't give a crap.
Down the river.
We don't have that much water left in Austin, so we've changed the expression to sell you down the road.
So we're dry.
Here, participant roster.
Here we go.
Let's see who's in it.
Oracle, Fraunhofer, AOL, Newcastle University, PayPal, more Oracle, Orange, Bechtel.
This is all part of the...
I mean, this is combined with near-field communication in the cell phone.
Oh, yeah.
It's a done deal for just these companies essentially taking over your financial life.
And since everyone's addicted to cell phones, and I've been predicting this for 25 years, if you let the phone companies have anything to do with financing anything you do, they will use their power as a phone company to extort you to make sure you pay.
Yep.
This was tested.
This is why I've said this before.
This was tested back in the modem days in the late 80s or so or the mid-80s when, if you remember, these guys would be on their modem and they'd click on something on a BBS and it would go and it would run some code that would turn the modem speaker off, redial Romania.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Some connection that cost $100 a minute.
And you'd be on there, this is like they did this with phone sex too.
And you'd be on there for a few minutes and you'd get a bill for $5,000 from the phone company because of your modem doing this thing.
You'd call fraud and the phone company says, no, we have treaties, there's nothing we can do about it.
We have to collect the money or you'll lose your phone.
And people ponied up.
Once in a while they agreed to pay less, but it was just a test.
To see exactly how much you can put the screws to the public because you own their communications methodology.
I'm shutting it off.
I don't need it.
Robert Cope is on board here from Homeland Security Consultants.
We have Ingo Friese from Deutsche Telekom.
Oh, man.
Oh, Mark Hadley from Sun Microsystems.
Michael Hansen from Mozilla.
All right.
Get in there, boys.
Jeff Hodges, PayPal, Intuit.
Cigna?
Ha ha.
eBay?
Kellogg's Associates?
Oh, this is a great list.
This is a great list.
BT? British Telecom?
Oh, yeah.
All right, this is...
NTT? Ha ha!
This is going to be great.
So we need to get on board with it.
How can we turn this to our advantage?
What can we do?
I don't know.
We'll have to think about it.
I'm going to have to read over this.
There's a couple white papers on the web.
Yeah, you want to go to the...
Kantara Initiative website.
Right, I got the Kantara white paper up right now.
Yeah, that's the one you want to go to.
Yeah, Kantara.
K-A-N-T-A-R-A, I think.
So, hey, Human Resources, I think there's an opportunity here for the Curry-Devorak Consulting Group.
We can certainly make some dough out of this.
And please also remember to check kidsactivity.curry.com.
Tell me what's going on with that PDF file.
Open up that sucker up, see what's happening.
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As long as we're still allowed to do amounts of that order.
Legally.
Yeah, well that'll end.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, it will all end for sure.
Or we'll die happy men, John.
Without a cell phone in our pocket.
Yeah, no cell phone.
No cell phone.
People are standing outside your crazy house made of cargo containers saying, Jenny, don't go near.
Don't go near that house.
That man is nuts.
Coming to you.
Stay away, Jenny.
Stay away.
Coming to you.
I want to see.
Coming to you from Camp Mofo here in the drone star state, the capital.
in Austin Tejas.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
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I'm John C. Dvorak.
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