Time for Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, episode 367.
This is no agenda.
Preparing for a white Christmas here at Camp Mofo in Austin, Texas.
The capital of the Lone Star State in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from the Pacific Northwest, at the compound, I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
Yeah!
Well prepared opening statement, sir.
Yes, I spent a lot of time writing that one.
I've worked on that for two days.
It's cold here, John.
It's so cold.
Well, it's colder here.
I don't know.
We've got, like, 40s?
Is it colder where you are?
What's the temperature in northern Silicon Valley?
It's probably around...
This is Pacific Northwest Silicon Valley.
Oh, are you up...
Oh, wait a minute.
You up with the fam?
Yeah, I'm up in...
Yeah.
Oh, nice.
Washington State, where it's colder than where you are.
You know what they say?
You're not near Seattle, are you?
Well, I can drive to Seattle, so I guess that's kind of close.
They say that Seattle and Austin are sister cities.
Yeah.
Like a couple of lesbians?
Oh, wow, man.
Did you see the first lesbian kiss...
Have you seen this?
No, what?
The first lesbian kiss.
Lesbians have been kissing forever.
No, this is the first one after the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell.
Oh, the first army lesbian kiss?
Navy.
Navy.
And you Google it right now.
Navy.
You've got to look at it because...
Whoever does this PR, chapeau bah and congratulations.
Welcome and bienvenue.
Great job.
Because, you know, if this is going to be the first homecoming kiss for a gay couple, you know, you want to ease people into it, right?
So, you know, you don't want to have two guys doing that because that just, you know, the networks might not run it.
You know, it's difficult.
So they have two girls kissing.
But not just two girls.
Who's directing this show?
I don't know.
Howard Stern?
I think so.
I mean, they are smoking hot.
They're beautiful.
It's like, wow!
Yes, more of that!
It's so smart.
Check it.
Google it right now.
Homecoming Lesbian Kiss.
The Telegraph has a copy of it.
Aren't they beautiful?
Well, I can't tell because they're smooshed up against each other.
No, CNN's been running the video footage all morning.
Oh, the first lesbian kiss!
Woo!
Yeah, CNN, our objective news source.
Yeah.
Anyway, in the morning to you, John, and to all the boots on the ground, drone pilots on the ground, steering the drones in the air, bakers in the kitchen, and, of course, our human resources in the chat room, noagentastream.com, noagentachat.net.
Yes, and hi to you too.
No, that doesn't count.
Come on, man.
Give me an in the morning.
Give me an in the morning.
In the morning, Adam.
You said all ships to sea.
You took my thunder.
I know, but it's about the in the morning part.
Otherwise, I don't feel good.
So, the Navy woman is quite attractive.
The other girl is less so, but she's pretty.
But the Navy girl, it's almost as though, I'm always seeing this as, okay, here's what we're going to do.
Maybe this will get these guys off my case.
That's exactly right.
I can hear the meeting already.
Listen, we've got to do this whole home for the holidays because we're coming back from Iraq and everything.
Why don't we just slip in a little bit of Don't Ask, Don't Tell?
These Curry Dvorak guys, they're on to the whole bestiality thing now being approved.
So we've got to thwart that.
Let's show them what Don't Ask, Don't Tell is really bringing you straight guys.
Yeah, anyway.
So in other news...
What have we got?
It's so annoying.
And by the way, the big news, it seems to me, the top news story, is the fact that iTunes isn't carrying the show.
Yeah, this is very strange.
Because only people who had iTunes were having a problem with it, as far as I can tell.
We've had some regional problems with our content delivery network.
From time to time, it does happen.
You know, I had Andrew Grumet over there at Mevio blow out the cache, whatever that means, and then he rejiggered something, and it made no difference.
Nothing helped.
But I don't know.
These things do worry me.
What did we say in the show that someone could have made a call to Apple about?
We didn't talk about Apple.
No.
We didn't talk about Steve Jobs.
No, they don't care about that.
We didn't talk about CRM. Oh, you know, maybe because I said, you know, when Steve Jobs is bullying people, he's a genius.
That was the episode before, so maybe they said, you know what, let's show these guys.
Let's show these guys who the real bully is.
It's got nothing to do with jobs.
That's right.
You want to see some bullying, pal?
Here we go.
Well, anyway.
That's right.
You were harping on that.
Yeah.
It could be.
It could be.
It wouldn't surprise me.
I wouldn't put it past him, that's for sure.
Why should we be distributing a show that's slamming Apple?
Yeah, really.
We're doing you a service.
We're doing you a favor.
Yeah.
That's a possibility.
Well, it's like the Google washing.
Man, apparently, noagendashow.com doesn't work at all in Chrome now.
And Google has changed something with Chrome.
Have you noticed any differences?
I don't use Chrome.
Okay, because I was using it on this machine in the studio, and I've changed back to Firefox now.
I don't know.
They've done something weird.
I don't know.
It feels like they've done some JavaScript injection combatant thing, whatever.
I don't know what they're doing, but it's not behaving like it used to.
And now, if you use Chrome and go to noagendershow.com, very much like we've been Google-washed, it's just an empty page.
It doesn't show up.
What?
Yeah, you see the banner, and that's it.
And that's a Squarespace site.
It's nothing special.
Right, yeah, we're just using the standard old Squarespace site, so it shouldn't be anything different.
I think there's a new version of Chrome that does something funky.
Have you checked any other Squarespace sites out?
Maybe Squarespace itself is having trouble with Chrome.
Possible.
But then again, what happened to all those great standards?
And this is not supposed to happen.
No, these standards are a joke.
Yeah.
Standard schmandered.
No, I was quite irritated by this we-can't-wait bullcrap.
This more reality show of the payroll tax cuts here in the United States.
I'm sure a lot of people heard about this here in the United States of Gitmo Nation, but for those outside, what's happening is there's a payroll tax provision which is expiring at the end of the year, and over the first $18,000 that you make, The current payroll tax is 2.5%, I think, and it would go up by 2.1 points or something.
So that could result in a $1,000 difference for just about everybody, I think.
Of course, $1,000 makes a different type of difference to people making a lot more money.
Yeah, the problem is with that $1,000, it turns out that when people do the calculations, it's nowhere near that, by the way.
Well, irregardless.
Irregardless.
That's not a good use of the network.
That's an interesting term, but I don't think it's correct.
No, it's not.
It's regardless of what you're supposed to say.
Irregardless is something old women used to say in the 30s.
Oh, well, there you go.
I'm reincarnated.
But I like you.
I think we should make it popular.
We'll do that, along with Bogative.
And what was it?
Another one of people have been calling me on.
Something else I've been saying wrong.
I like cripes.
Yeah, but talk about old women from the 30s.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
So, uh, so this, but they've boiled it down and now it's like, it's like $40 a week essentially is what they were.
Somehow they've, they've mangled this.
And then we've got, you know, people angry and yelling and, uh, you know, they, they, they didn't pass the bill in the house that the Senate passed down, uh, because, uh, that was a two month provision and no one really tells you the truth.
And I, I did go in and I did read all the bills because there was like four, nine or three, five Oh one five Oh two five Oh three.
Cause you know, these keep, you know, There's versions of these bills and amendments that go back and forth.
And I can boil this down to what the real problem is, but the reason why this thing didn't pass in the House, and I have to say I kind of agree with it, is because the way it's about how it's going to be paid for.
That's the argument here.
And there were two provisions in the bill.
One was it was going to be paid for by charging extra fees for people who have a mortgage backed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
I mean, isn't that like taking the money out the back door?
Yeah, that's a good one.
Here's $40 a week, but if you own your own house, and I would say people in lower income probably have a mortgage backed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
Am I correct?
Well, I don't know.
Not necessarily.
Not necessarily, probably.
But they back a lot of mortgages, and then we're going to charge you a fee on the front end.
Yeah, about $40 or $50.
But there was also, in 502, a provision that said, okay, here's how we're going to pay for it now, by freezing wages on all congressional wages and all federal wages.
They were like, no, we're not going to take it from us and give it to people.
We're not going to do that.
No, no, no.
We're not going to vote that way.
I just thought, you know, I think there's a spin-off show in the making here.
I think Adam reads the bill so you don't have to.
You could probably do a good half hour solid, just you doing nothing more than reading bills and pointing out some of the crazy little provisos.
That might be my New Year's resolution.
But of course the real problem here is we're talking about $30 billion for two months, but in essence about $100 billion for the entire year.
How about taking out one submarine?
No one is saying, well, we had this huge $667 billion National Defense Authorization Act.
I'm sure we can do with one submarine less.
One.
One underwater base up there in Washington.
One underwater submarine base.
Do we really need that?
Do we really make it above water and save $100 billion?
That's the real problem.
No, we have to have a whole reality show.
And then the president went to Best Buy.
Did you see this?
No, what happened?
He went to Best Buy and purchased a Wii game for the kids.
Whatever it was, it was like $40.63.
Just to show the president's $40.
I mean, these people are sick.
I'm just totally, totally sick, I tell you.
You know, it's like, really?
And the president's like, oh, I hope my credit card works.
By the way, from what I could tell, it looked like he had an American Express black card, diamond encrusted.
Well, if you got American Express black, it works.
Oh, yeah.
It always works regardless.
There was one funny thing that I picked up on C-SPAN. A lot of people tweeted about this.
And it's not so much what happened as what C-SPAN said after it happened.
So this was yesterday.
And the day before yesterday, we had this whole reality show.
Everyone's like, just a bunch of a-holes.
Just pontificating.
Of course, no one cares.
Let's finish the script and go home for Christmas.
We don't give a crap.
And so then yesterday they opened up the house.
They do it with a song, a prayer, a pledge of allegiance, a circle dance, you know, some voodoo, a little sacrifice on the altar there.
And then it was, who's the speaker?
Or the, ah, come on with it, Boehner.
I guess it was Boehner.
No, it wasn't Boehner.
And whoever the guy was, whoever the guy is that does the attendance, the roll call and all that, from Boehner's office, whatever, Republican.
He then immediately wants to shut it down so no more bill can be brought in to discuss again.
And then Steny Hoyer, and this is all a setup.
This is totally a setup.
Steny Hoyer starts yelling, and then the president of the House, the guy who has the gavel, walks off, and then he shuts off the microphones, and then he shuts off the C-SPAN cameras.
And that's what was interesting about this.
Listen to a bit of this exchange here.
With liberty and justice for all.
Thank you.
Pursuant to Section 3B of House Resolution 493, the House stands adjourned until 10 a.m. on Friday.
on Friday...
Mr.
Speaker!
Mr.
Speaker!
Mr.
Speaker!
I'd like to ask for unanimous consent that we bring up the bill to extend the tax cut for 160 million Americans.
So the guy's now packing his bag.
There's guys picking up the candlesticks on the left.
So many Republicans have walked away from middle class taxpayers.
You're walking away.
You're screwing people.
You don't care.
As well, from those who will be seeking medical assistance from their doctors, 48 million senior citizens, we regret, Mr.
Speaker, that you have walked off the platform without addressing the issue of critical importance to this country, and that is the continuation of the middle-class tax cut, the continuation of unemployment benefits for those...
Where was all this grandstanding when we could have gotten $100 billion from a submarine?
Where was all that, huh?
Huh?
You're all douchebags.
But now here it comes.
I am pleased to yield to my friend, Mr.
Van Hollen.
So, cuts the mic off.
He can yield all he wants.
He's not in control of the place.
They actually went on for 20 minutes in an empty place, and then they had a press conference about it.
But listen, so, this happens.
Now, it's just, you know, it's quiet.
And then they cut to a shot of, like, a stock shot.
So, as you just saw, a stock shot of the Capitol.
And now, listen, this is the voiceover from C-SPAN, which I thought was funny.
The chair did not recognize Representative Steny Hoyer, instead gaveling the house out of session.
And with the house out of session, the house TV gallery ended the video and audio feed from the floor.
C-SPAN doesn't have control of those cameras.
Mr.
Hoyer stayed on the floor and spoke about the payroll tax cut for another 23 minutes.
So C-SPAN doesn't have control.
They can shut it off whenever they want.
I didn't know that.
How about that?
Yeah, I didn't know that they could just say...
Well, you know, the Democrats, when they had full power over everything, if we remember when we were doing the show the first two years over the Obama administration, they were cutting guys off left and right, ending things prematurely, giving people one minute to talk about a deep topic.
In fact, that's one of the clips I have on the upcoming clip show.
Mm-hmm.
And by the way, I want to remind you, the clip show, I don't know if even you realize, the clip show is not about clips of us.
No, no, I do realize because you explained it to me.
Yeah.
Because JC was saying, well, you got some good clips of you guys?
No, it's not.
That's the joke of it.
It's a clip show.
It's like a class, you know, it's like, anyway, it's a meta gag, I guess.
So they pulled this crap and now they're having to pull on there.
It's not even being pulled.
They had to adjourn.
There was no reason to have this discussion.
So there was one more thing in the...
Sprant standing.
Oh yeah, it's all great.
It's all a show, exactly.
They're like, hey man, the X Factor finale part one is on tonight.
We can do better.
We can get better ratings.
We can get everywhere.
Wolf will run it.
So there's something else in this 501, which was one of the bills, where they state facts, whereas...
So whereas, I didn't know this, the Social Security Trust Fund is now running a cash deficit...
And over the next 75 years will require an additional $6.5 trillion to pay scheduled benefits.
Did you know that?
I thought they always said that it was all good.
You know, don't worry about it.
Plenty of dough or whatever.
So it's at a cash deficit.
That doesn't sound right.
And this is a fact because they stated, whereas, like everyone knows, this is a fact.
It's a fact.
Now, what does it say exactly?
That's exactly what it says.
So there's a whole bunch of...
Hold on, let me open it up again.
I already closed it.
It wasn't all that great.
This is House Resolution 502.
And so this is kind of like...
It's also grandstanding, but it says here...
So the resolution, and it says, you know, this is the difference between two months and a year.
It says on December 17th, President Obama called for a tax cut for the rest of the year.
December 17th, Nancy Pelosi said it should be a full year.
The 17th, House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer said it should be a full year.
So basically, everyone said it should be a year, and now all of a sudden it's you want two months.
And then it says, whereas 2011 working Americans received a temporary payroll tax rate reduction which allowed the average family to keep $1,000 or more of their annual wages, average family, nearly 170 million workers, blah, blah, blah.
And then whereas the imminent expiration of the temporary payroll rate tax reduction is creating further uncertainty for families as well as employers who must adjust withholding amounts from their employees' paychecks, I think it's true, And then it says, whereas the Social Security Trust Fund is now running a cash deficit and over the next 75 years will require an additional $6.5 trillion to pay scheduled benefits.
There's got to be something fraudulent about this.
Yeah, they stole the money.
This is not what we've been hearing, and I think by law they can't do that.
So something's amiss with this, either the wording or the facts of the...
It's alright with the facts.
Or maybe it's just true.
Is that possible?
Yeah.
But I think it's true the same way that the post office is losing money.
Okay.
All right.
You know, it's some sort of bookkeeping thing to make it look bad.
Obviously, it's all bookkeeping.
It's all imaginary.
It's just digits.
It's just computer numbers.
It's not actual money.
It's not like it's a big pot of gold for when I retire.
By the way, I was thinking about this post office thing.
Yeah.
Because, you know, it still galls me that this information is going out the way it is.
Mm-hmm.
I think they really definitely want to get...
The post office is required by the Constitution as a delivery mechanism for communications.
And I think if they can privatize it or get it out of the Constitution, I think it's just another way, like the internet switch...
To cut off communications between the public members and the public members.
Is that true that it's in the Constitution?
There's a post office provision in the Constitution.
Really?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
I'll have to go look it up now.
Oh, yeah?
Hold on.
Oh, well, you know what we have to do in that case.
Consult the book of knowledge.
Uh. - Uh.
Independent agency of the United States government responsible for delivering postal service is one of the few government agencies explicitly authorized by the United States Constitution.
The postal clause was added to the Constitution primarily to facilitate interstate communication as well as to create a source of revenue for the early United States.
Yeah, how's that working out for you?
It is actually working out.
They're soaking them for all the extra money they make.
It works out great.
Billions.
Was it $75 billion in prepaid retirement fund?
Was that it?
Yeah, they had to do prepaid retirement funds for 10 years in advance to steal the money.
Thomas Jefferson feared that the Postal Service would become a source of patronage and a waste of money.
Ha ha ha.
This is according to Wikipedia.
This fear turned out to be somewhat prophetic.
As the office of the Postmaster General came to take charge of patronage.
Well, there you go.
There is some truth to that.
The Postmaster General is a bad actor, usually.
Yeah.
Have you seen Coops?
Wait a minute.
That wasn't the Postmaster General.
That was the other guy.
Who's been Postmaster General?
Look him up.
He's a stooge that's been promoting this idea that they're losing money.
Hates the unions.
He's just a horrible person.
Postmaster Generals to present.
Let's see who it is.
Patrick R. Donahue.
Yeah, Donahue.
Donahue?
Donahue?
Let me see.
Obama appointed him.
Wow, he's been wiki-washed.
There's nothing on this guy.
Huh.
He's been brought in as a hatchet man.
Let me see.
Prior to being named Postmaster General, Donahue served as the 19th Deputy Postmaster General.
Second highest.
Well, what was he?
He's never had a real job.
Sounds like an Obama appointee.
Sounds good to me.
Oh, he was Senior Vice President of Human Resources and Vice President of Allegheny Area Operations of the Post Office.
In 1775, when Benjamin Franklin was appointed the first postmaster general, that's when the U.S. Post Office was initiated.
Yeah.
Well, I think the post office is still a good thing.
He used to be a cabinet member, it was so important.
Oh, really?
Well, but your original point is to be able to stop communication.
Yeah, I guess so.
If it's privatized, then we can do anything we want, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, and the president can just do an executive order.
No more flights for commercial mail.
And also, it would no longer be a federal crime to commit all sorts of mail fraud and things such as that.
Oh, and that, of course, is to protect the lawyers.
Right.
Because if you send a bill that is fraudulent, then that's mail fraud.
Right.
That protects lawyers and also probably some other onerous potentials there.
It's not good.
No, it's not good.
Interesting.
So the only other thing that's just been annoying me to no end is this Ron Paul hit jobs.
And now we already discussed that we knew that race would play a role in the presidential elections for 2012.
Now this is cropping up.
Ron Paul is being hit from all sides.
Now there's the television side, there's the print side.
The print side is actually much more interesting, but let me play...
Let me play this clip here and you'll hear exactly what it's all about.
This is Wolf Blitzer.
All newsletters and it's got your name bannered on the top and some of these comments as we just heard from Brian's piece are pretty shocking.
Yeah, it is.
And of course, it's been rehashed a long time and it's coming up now for political reasons.
But everybody knows in my district that I didn't write them and I don't speak like that.
And nobody has heard me ever say anything like that.
And I've been reelected time and time again.
So everybody knows that I don't participate in that type of language.
But the point is, is when you bring this question up, you're really saying you're a racist or are you a racist?
And the answer is no, I'm not a racist.
Matter of fact, Rosa Parks is one of my heroes.
Martin Luther King is a hero.
Because they practice the libertarian principle of civil disobedience, non-violence.
Libertarians are incapable of being a racist because racism is a collectivist idea.
You see people in groups.
A civil libertarian like myself sees everybody as an important individual.
It's not the color of their skin that is important, as Martin Luther King said.
What is important is the character of the individual.
You know what is really interesting though, and this might be behind this, Because I, as a Republican candidate, probably am getting the most number of black votes and black supporters.
And Niall, that has to be undermined.
And I do this because I attack two wars that blacks are suffering from.
One, the war overseas.
In all wars, minorities suffer the most.
So they join me in this.
The position I have against the war in Iraq, and what about the war on drugs?
What other candidate will stand up and frighten the candidate and say, I would pardon all blacks, all whites, everybody who are convicted for nonviolent drug acts and drug crimes?
And this is where the real discrimination is.
Let me finish this, because I've got to get my message back, because you put the other message out.
So essentially what's going on here is they're pulling up these newsletters.
The interesting thing about this clip, John, it's from 2008.
This is the exact same thing they did in 2008.
That's why I polled it.
I was like, it's the same thing happening all over again.
Yeah, no, it's a fractal.
Oh boy, I don't know where my fractal jingle is.
It's been a while since we've used it.
Sorry about that.
Yeah, no, it's a total fractal.
What is interesting, though, is if you listen to...
So now the new one they have is they grab Ron Paul backstage, Gloria Borger, who is a total...
Oh, that horrible person.
And her husband is like...
Like a media trainer or something.
I don't like her at all.
And she goes into the same thing with Ron Paul.
But listen to the end where she's basically, hey man, don't hate me.
It's my job.
I have to do this.
Because he takes off his mic.
Which, by the way, bad advice to Ron Paul.
Don't do that.
That makes you look really bad.
Walking off set makes you look...
And it wasn't even on set because he got hijacked backstage.
But it makes you look bad.
And that's the entire point here is to do this.
Well, you've pestered me about this.
And CNN does it every single time.
So when are you going to wear yourself out?
When are you going to do that?
Is it legitimate?
I mean, is it a legitimate question to ask that something went out under your name?
And when you get the answer, it's legitimate that you sort of take the answers.
You know what the answer is?
I didn't write them, I didn't read them at the time, and I disavowed them.
That is the answer.
Well, it's just a question.
I mean, it's legitimate.
Come on, it's legitimate.
It gets worse.
It's legitimate.
These things are pretty incendiary.
Because of people like you.
No, no, no, no.
Come on.
Some of this stuff was very incendiary.
And, you know, saying that in 1993 the Israelis were responsible for the bombing of the World Trade Center, that kind of stuff.
All right.
Goodbye.
All right.
Thank you, Congressman.
I appreciate your answer.
I appreciate your answering the questions.
And you understand it's our job to answer.
You understand it's our job to be an a-hole.
You understand?
And she has this apologetic look on her face because she knows she's doing something horrible.
Yeah.
Now we have...
Her husband's Lance Morgan, a lobbyist.
Oh, yeah.
For Powell Tate.
Oh, yeah.
Go figure.
Now there's some new words.
We already had the Ron Paul army.
But there's a new word on the scene that is being used.
Oh!
He might be 76, but you could tell he was feeling the mojo.
The mojo.
Now it's the mojo.
Albeit a Ron Paul type of mojo.
It's a special kind of mojo.
It's ABC. What?
Yeah, it's a special kind of mojo.
Mojo?
Mojo.
In the 1960s?
Gets worse.
They get the government out of everybody's life.
This libertarian who wants to abolish Medicare, who opposes most all foreign intervention, but wants to legalize drugs...
This is so not true.
He doesn't want to legalize drugs.
He says they should be legal.
There's a big difference in how this...
They should be decriminalized is what the term really is.
Right.
Knows he has a shot in Iowa.
Why?
The one thing you're missing here, which you have to probably play again just to get it, this guy's voice...
He is making fun of him with his voice.
Totally.
Well, he just wants to do this, and he wants to do that.
Yeah, no, I'm not.
Borderline Krusty the Clown.
Let's let Krusty the Clown.
He was feeling the mojo.
The mojo.
Albeit a Ron Paul type of mojo.
I just say, get the government out of here.
So there's this mojo word everywhere.
Wait a minute, there's a couple other things in this report that I had to play.
This libertarian who wants to abolish Medicare, who opposes most all foreign intervention, but wants to legalize drugs, knows he has a shot in Iowa.
Why?
He told ABC's John Carl it's his supporters.
They're very sincere and true believers, and they're going to be there, and they're not going to be sent away because the wind is blowing.
A small army of young, committed disciples.
But the problem?
A bigger army that's not fighting.
Army!
Army!
Troops!
Crazy!
Wacky!
Kooky!
The message is clear.
It's his delivery that really gets me.
This is not a guy doing a serious news reportage.
He is mocking it with his light-hearted manner.
And that's just the way it is with this crazy old guy.
Easy kooky dude with some mojo.
There's more mojo talk, though.
This is like the word of the day.
That's my question.
Does anyone come back once they go into purgatory, politically speaking?
Because I'm thinking of how Michelle Bachman had some mojo and then she faded.
And Herman Cain had mojo and faded.
And Rick Perry had it and faded.
But it seems like they never come back.
If Newt is truly fading now, is he done?
So this whole idea of the mojo is weird to me.
I mean, some memo must have gone out where this word was used or something that people are like, yeah, let's throw the mojo thing in.
What do you think?
I don't know what the memo is, but somebody picked it up.
And you have to remember that when you're in a big news organization like CNN or any of them, the walls are covered with monitors with every news feed they can possibly think of pumped into one monitor or another.
And when you're standing around doing nothing, you tend to be watching these things and you'll punch up the sound on one or the other.
But I think it's just groupthink.
I don't think any memo went.
I think it's just somebody, that's a great idea for a word.
Let's use it.
Another guy use it.
Another guy use it.
Next thing you know, it becomes a Jon Stewart bit where they just cut one from one.
Yeah, the mojo to mojo to mojo.
Mojo to mojo.
So these are two, actually, advisors.
One for McCain, I think.
Although they pretend to be Democrats, they advised McCain on his campaign.
And Bush, actually.
And this guy really, really takes it all the way out there on Ron Paul.
If you look at the Iowa caucuses over the last couple of election cycles, there's always been a lot of turbulence around them in the days preceding.
I wonder if you're going to see Rick Santorum maybe make a move up here.
One of the few candidates that really hasn't had a shot I've got to move to the other guy.
Hold on.
As you look at this race, it does seem to be stabilizing in Mitt Romney's favor right now.
Ron Paul says he's not the one who signed these, wrote these.
He's not sure who did.
Bob Schrum, what's the impact?
Well, I don't know whether he wrote them or not, but the truth of the matter is that he...
Oh!
I think they're disqualifying.
I think Steve's absolutely right.
He's not only unacceptable inside the Republican Party, outside the mainstream of the Republican Party, he's unacceptable in America.
He's a disqualified presidential candidate, and not just because of what he's written.
Oh, not just because of what he's written.
I guess there's other stuff.
Whatever.
But that wasn't as bad as the Wall Street Journal this morning.
Member of the editorial board, Dorothy Rabinowitz, He writes, Ron Paul, I'm paraphrasing, one who is the best known of our homegrown propagandists for our chief enemies in the world.
One who has made himself a leading spokesman for and recycler of the long and familiar litany of charges that point to the United States as a leading agent of evil and injustice, the military victimizer of millions who only want to live in peace.
And then she goes on.
And you need to read the whole thing, by the way.
It's in the show notes.
There can be no confusions about Dr.
Paul's own comments about the U.S. after 9-11.
He said to students in Iowa there was glee in the administration because now we can invade Iraq.
True.
It takes a profoundly environment...
Yeah, they had planned.
We've discussed this, and it's very well documented.
They had planned to invade Iraq, and now they had the excuse...
It takes a profoundly envenomed mindset, one also deeply at odds with reality, to believe and to say publicly that the administration of this nation brought so low with grief and loss after the attack had reacted with glee.
There are, to be sure, a number of like-minded citizens around, like the 9-11 truthers whose opinions Dr.
Paul says he doesn't share, but we don't expect to find their views in people running for the nation's highest office.
She reminds me of people like Hitler, whose opinions she doesn't share.
Yeah.
What does that mean?
Yeah, it's outrageous.
Totally outrageous.
And that's a piece of propagandistic writing, by the way, ladies and gentlemen, that you should deconstruct yourself and take a look at it as very onerous.
Well, there's a better one.
Also Wall Street Journal.
They evaluated Ron Paul's investment and savings portfolio.
This guy is so un-American, John.
Listen to this.
21% of...
Actually, it says yes.
About 21% of Representative Paul's holdings are in real estate and roughly 14% in cash.
But he owns no bonds or bond funds and only has 0.1% in stock funds.
Furthermore, the stock funds that Representative Paul does own are all short or make bets against U.S. stocks.
One is a double inverse fund that on a daily basis goes up twice as much as its stock benchmark goes down.
The remainder of Ron Paul's portfolio, fully 64% of his assets, is entirely in gold and silver mining stocks.
He owns no Apple, no Exxon Mobil, no Procter& Gamble, no General Electric, no Johnson& Johnson, not even a diversified mutual fund that holds a broad basket of stocks.
Representative Paul doesn't own stock in any major companies at all, even except big precious metal stocks like Barrick Gold, Gold Corp, and Newmont Mining.
So they actually say in this article he is anti-American because he doesn't own...
It sounds like he's got a pretty balanced portfolio for someone who's a bear.
Yeah, he says he's betting on the American economy crashing.
Yeah?
Yes!
And that's somehow un-American?
This is what people do.
Unless you're a banker, then it's all good, I guess.
If you're a banker, make out no matter what happens.
That is bogative.
That is the worst kind of sleazy writing ever.
I told you it was better than TV. So the guy holds a short position and he's long gold and real estate.
Yeah.
So what?
Yeah, no, then you're un-American and you don't invest in American companies.
50% owner of Al Jazeera.
He's a weapons maker.
No, but this hit job.
I don't know.
By the way, you should always remember that Fox News, which hates Ron Paul, hates him, is the same ownership as the Wall Street Journal.
Murdoch, yeah.
That's Murdoch.
So what do you think?
Can he survive this?
Yeah, I think he can actually win Iowa.
Because I still think the reaction...
I think the public is a little more tuned into this than these guys want to believe.
And by the way, a lot of votes are not swayed by anything in the Wall Street Journal.
I mean, they're not going to vote for Ron Paul anyway, so it's meaningless.
But I think the majority of the public is really...
I think the American public, generally speaking, is very much into what's fair...
And they see this as being an unfair situation, so they're going to vote for Ron Paul.
I think he can win Iowa, and I think he can win New Hampshire, which would really screw things up.
He would.
Do you remember...
In 2008, we talked about this guy, David Cohen, who was a...
He was...
Before we do that, let's thank our executive producers and get them.
All right.
Well, let's not just get it out of the way.
Let's put them in the limelight because...
Because that's where they belong.
And donating is loving.
It is.
So we have a bunch of, this is an odd show.
We have one executive producer and one, two, three, four, five, I guess five or six executives.
That's cool.
Dwayne Melanson, Sir Melanson to you in Tigard, Oregon.
He's up there with Winnie the Pooh in Tigard.
And it might be Tigard, but I think it's Tigard.
367 in the morning, gentlemen.
Sir Dwayne here started donating with show 184 right after I started listening.
That was $365, $1 a day donation.
So it's $365, which is, I think, a reasonable dollar a day.
Next year is leap year, so I'm prepaying for 2012 plus a bonus dollar since I forgot to donate early enough to hit show 366.
This has been a great year, and I'm looking forward to another.
And please toss me a shot of karma.
That's so kind of you, Sir Dwayne.
Thank you very much.
We appreciate it.
You've got...
I feel loved.
Our nights, they always come through in the darker days of the year.
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I hope you and all the other producers have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
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I don't have where Cedarville is.
Do you?
Ohio?
2333.
He's from Bible-thumping New Orleans, friend.
Maybe it's...
Oh, no.
He says, from your Bible-thumping New Orleans, friend.
Back in September, my daughter's toe was smushed like a grape, and I donated to ask for prayer from you guys.
Since I've been working with insurance companies to get the cost of two hospital visits down to a minimum, I've succeeded.
She's in full recovery.
By the way, he sent us some pictures of this toe.
Ugh!
I want to tell producers out there, don't do that.
That was harsh.
I'm like, wow.
She's a cute little girl with a smashed toe.
I think this is the guy who looks like Brad Pitt.
Who gave us the Bibles?
Okay.
So I thought I'd donate $200 for the executive producer credit and $33.33 for their podcast license.
I'm a fellow podcaster over at marvel16politics.com.
It's about comic books.
Marvel616politics.com.
Let's get that straight.
I must confess that I don't know what 616 refers to, but something.
But listen, never fully heard Adam's theory on the alien presence here on Earth.
Please share in full detail.
Well, we have something for the second half of the show that's a little like that, but I don't know if we're going to go through Adam's whole theory.
And lastly, I apologize if I bug you guys with my emails, because Adam's always annoyed.
I agree with a lot of what you guys say because of my biblical education, even though you and I don't believe the same things.
We're on the same page with where the country and planet are going.
Get out the Red Book.
I predict a global currency, one world government, and then it gets truncated.
One world.
I have a little bit.
One world religion, even if that religion is science.
And if aliens come for us, that will quicken the idea that salvation of mankind will come only through unity and something.
Okay.
Thank you very much, Andrew.
Get to knighthood so we can call you sir.
Anonymous in Hamilton, Ohio.
Hi, guys.
It's been a while since I checked in, but after the torture, Adam put himself through reading that monstrous defense bill so we don't have to.
I feel compelled to compensate.
Great work as always.
I hope this donation pushes me over the knighthood.
Please knight me a sir spike.
Okay.
Right on.
Yeah, I look forward to it.
Let me just make sure I think it's spike on the...
On the list.
Jay Ragusa in Greenwich, Connecticut, 212.
Since recording the DSA, since you moved recently to Texas, you'll now understand the concept of energy supplier choice and that deregulation is for real.
And then he goes on about his company launching a service in Texas next year.
And...
It's lonewolfpower.com.
Is this one of these MLM marketing things?
It's a possibility, but it's lonewolfpower.com and check it out.
I can't get behind these multi-level marketing deals.
He says he's donated $212, the boiling point of water.
That's cute.
Yeah, I like that.
That's a good one.
We'll take a look at you.
I will take a look at lonewolfpower.com.
Thank you.
Dean Carson in Nairn, South Australia.
200 bucks.
Merry Christmas.
And that wraps up our executive producers and associate executive producers for show 367.
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They're real credits.
This is not just some jokey thing we do.
Yeah, you can go to Dvorak.org slash na, channel Dvorak.com slash na, noagendanation.com and noagendashow.com, except with the Chrome browser, which we should talk about.
Yeah.
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Donating is loving.
A few PR associates have checked in, done a little bit of help.
The drone stuff seems to be quite popular as websites have forwarded to NoAgendaShow.com, which can no longer be viewed in the Chrome browser.
Drone.Home.com.net.org and.info.
Drone.Home.
So, okay, usable.
SavePageAs.com.
I like that one.
He has an idea here.
The ultimate plan with SavePageAs.com is to build a service that you can enter a URL and save it off with tags and everything.
It'll be anonymous, anonymous, anonymous, no logs will be kept, and no requests to remove items will be accepted.
It'll be hosted offshore.
Okay, we'll look forward to that.
I like that idea.
It's a good idea.
Yeah, because a lot of...
I always tell people this, you know, they say, well, here, go look at you.
Somebody says, look at this link.
This is unbelievable what just happened.
You go to the link, it's dead.
You have to save page as.
Very important.
Of course, we talked about the change of the psychological operations as a department of the Department of Defense to the Military Intelligence Support Operations, MISO, And we now have mysops.com, which is good.
M-I-S-O-P-S.com, mysops.com, and mysodrone.com.
Excellent.
Glad those were not taken yet.
And, of course, we have the new XXX top-level domain, which has just been released, John, the.xxx, which I think are very expensive, aren't they?
I believe they're $125 a pop.
Well, we are the proud owners of FEMA.XXX. Now forwarding to NoAgendaShow.com.
We could probably make more money with that.
Can you imagine the way they have Lucy Napolitano in like whips and chains and stuff?
Kind of cool.
Dronepilotsjobs.com.
Dronepilotjobs.com.
If you're looking to get a gig as a drone pilot, you will automatically search in Google for Dronepilotjobs.com and be shuttled off to the No Agenda show website.
And then finally from Valan, Adam, I hope you're well.
Really sorry you haven't heard from me sooner.
The No Agenda game is not done as well as I'd hoped.
Remember he made an iPhone game, a No Agenda game, which actually is quite cool.
And I think what happened is...
It costs 99 bucks a year, you know, to keep something up in the app store.
It's not like free.
You have to be a developer.
You have to be a current developer.
So they're sending out their renewal notices.
Anyway, the game's not done as well as I hoped, and I couldn't send the money easily, and I'm still a boner, basically.
A few months ago, I had an epiphany.
I could rewrite an unpublished game and donate that.
What he has done is he has given us a zip file of the entire game package.
It includes no agenda graphics sounds, and it's ready to go.
And that will be also linked in the show notes, 367.nashownotes.com.
You'll find it as na-game.zip.
So feel free to grab the code and go and polish up the game, make your own game, have some fun with it.
So I thought that was kind of a cool idea.
Open source gaming development here on no agenda.
Right?
you Thank you.
I love it.
Yeah, I thought you did.
Everyone else out there, you do have a very important mission is to go out and propagate our formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
New.
Words.
All out.
Type it with me now.
Shut up, slave.
So apparently the Republicans are trying to make hay with this Joe Biden gaffe.
Oh, where he said we're not actually fighting the Taliban?
Yeah, and here's a classic example of how this, how it's like...
How it's played by some of these stooges, including John McCain, the guy who would have been president.
Play his clip, and he's trying to answer a question that's about one thing, and then he can't hold it back anymore.
million dollars by his departure because we were about again for the umpteenth time to try to bribe the north koreans into abandoning their nuclear arsenal with millions of dollars in food aid which most of which as we find out goes into the hands of the elite and does not do anything to alleviate the suffering of the people of north korea which is horrendous we we just saw the departure of one of the most brutal dictators in history
the people that can affect the the situation in north korea is not the united states it's the chinese the chinese propped them up if the chinese wanted them to act in a responsible way and move forward towards a A democratic, unified Korean peninsula.
They could do that.
Instead, the Chinese continue to prop them up.
Monica, I don't mean to change the subject, but the latest outrage, of course, is the Vice President's statement that the Taliban is not our enemy.
I've been flooded with comments and tweets.
He's brought on the show to talk about Kim Jong-il.
Yeah.
And he goes off the tracks.
He's an idiot.
He's a total idiot.
By the way, I do feel bad for you.
Personally.
Yeah, and I got a lot of notes and people expressing their concern that, you know, one of your ultimate wishes in life would be to drink some of Kim Jong-il's wine collection.
I feel bad for you.
Yeah, I doubt if his kid, Kim Jong-un.
What kind of a name is that?
And by the way, how do you like Kim Jong-il dying on a train?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't want to laugh about someone dying, but, oh man.
On the train.
I got an interesting note talking about China from one of our producers.
A lot of people think he's been dead for a year.
Oh, yeah.
Adam and John, I live in Palette City, Missouri, which is across the Missouri River, about 10 miles from Leavenworth.
I know you're familiar with what goes on in Leavenworth, but here's something you might not know.
Many of my neighbors are very high up in the military, and some, I've learned, are in the CIA. Last night we had a cocktail party.
I invited many of them.
I edged in with some crackpot stuff.
You've got to be careful now.
Next thing I know, we are toasting the Chiners.
I had them calling them the Chiners and they were in tears laughing so hard.
They understand how much of an issue the Chiners are becoming.
However, when I said the proxy wars are going on and they're going to be more frequent because the economy needs to...
To run in order to pay for the military.
Heads swiveled.
One guy leaned over later in the night and said, War is coming between Israel and Iran, so naturally we'll have to help Israel out.
Next year, October, he said.
Whoa.
Wow.
Pretty big, right?
Pretty big.
And I think the Georgia thing plays into this.
Reports now.
There was, of course, a Russian report, obviously.
So this would be the October surprise.
Well, that's exactly what it is, the surprise.
We have to go into war because no president in office has ever been voted out during war.
So the game that has to be played out in Washington is to keep Israel from doing whatever this is they're doing.
Right.
So you have two sides lined up.
You have the sides that go on and on about, oh, they've got a nuke.
It's going to go off.
We've got to stop them.
They've got to stop the development of the nuke.
And then you have this, they got no nuke.
They don't even want a nuke.
Well, they're trying to, you know, I read defense.aol.com, which you really should, I mean, it's for the defense industry.
And, you know, it's news from the perspective of guys who make a lot of money, you know, building stuff that kills people.
And so there's actually an article here, UN Inspectors Seek Smoking Gun in Iranian Nuclear Program.
And it goes into detail about how the IAEA report actually didn't have a smoking gun.
But now, this is weird.
In terms of the use of uranium metal, if you're doing work on nuclear weapons research, at some point you might want to use natural uranium metal as a surrogate material when you're testing to see whether or not your nuclear design will function properly.
Apparently, Iran used tungsten as a surrogate for a fissile core.
Tungsten?
Really?
What?
I'm not following this.
Okay.
So they're trying to find some proof.
They're trying to find proof that Iran is building a nuclear weapon.
And so now they're saying that if you're doing work on nuclear weapons research, and you don't have some uranium metal hanging around, because they don't...
You use tungsten.
You use tungsten.
Which is heavy.
It's like uranium.
Right.
So now they're showing...
Now basically...
You watched the report.
Iran has been acquiring tungsten.
Right.
You watch for the report.
I think that somebody should twist that story.
You say they're acquiring tungsten to bring back one of our old stories, which is to mix with gold or to gold plate and sell us gold bars.
But that's why it caught my eye.
I'm like, wow.
Every time I hear tungsten, it catches my eye, too, because of that gold thing.
So they're just trying to do it, but they can't.
I think the whole thing will start.
We'll have the Israeli drones, which, of course, we build in Georgia.
Because that is what Secretary of State Lucifer Clinton is going to go sell, which is already in the National Defense Authorization Act.
It's been approved.
And that is going to be sold to Georgia.
And I think that's where the attack on Iran will come from.
So they only have to overfly.
They don't have to really overfly.
They can go around.
What's next to Georgia?
Isn't it Azerbaijan?
Azerbaijan, yeah.
They only have to fly around it.
So that is not for the Russians.
That's to kick off the war.
I think, you know, this is pretty sad.
I think the October surprise, I think it's really going to happen.
They're doing everything they can and tying in Syria everywhere they can.
Is there anything in the New York Times on Syria today?
I don't have the paper since I'm in Washington State.
Okay, because the Arab League is now saying, they have all these shocking images of violence and child abuse, and they're torturing children, and they're killing children.
We've heard this script before.
And everywhere you turn on the BBC, you find this Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.
And you can find them at syriahr.com.
And so I'm looking into this Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which, by the way, is an awesome name.
We need to have a name like that.
No Agenda Observatory for Human Rights.
Yeah.
I mean, as long as you have human rights in your title somewhere, you're good to go.
And they are an extension of Al Jazeera.
In fact, their live blog is hosted by Al Jazeera.
Oh, really?
Oh, yeah.
And so, you know, if you're part of Al Jazeera, then you essentially are a mouthpiece for the Arab League.
And I'm looking at this website, and it registered in 2006...
And we know from the WikiLeaks cables that the State Department funneled as much as $6 million into a number of Syrian opposition NGOs in 2006.
So this is a totally financed operation.
But every single day, on the BBC in particular, there's another guy who works for the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, and people don't question who these guys are.
There's no question.
And they're in London.
They're not in Syria.
They're in London.
And no one questions them.
No one questions them at all.
And they're just like, here's the authority.
You know why?
Because of the cool name.
Observatory for Human Rights.
So we should be the no agenda observatory.
Do we have any of the names of the people involved in this?
I'm sorry?
Do we have any names besides Al Jazeera?
You can't, it's more of those names that when you Google them, then it's impossible to find.
Okay, oh yeah, those names that are, you know.
Al-Shabaab.
Yeah, Al-Shabaab.
There's a lot going on with Al-Shabaab.
No, I'm talking about Al.
Oh, Al.
Oh, really Al.
Big Al Shabab.
Not Al Shabab.
Big Al Shabab.
Remember Djibouti?
We were talking about Djibouti?
Yeah.
Oh, one of our producers did a lot of work on that.
Djibouti, the reason why we have all this money going to Djibouti, this little pimple of a country in Africa.
Yeah, it's a small, it's like a city state.
Yeah, well, that's where we have a huge drone base.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
That's where we launched the drones from.
Duh.
Another Djibouti drone, everybody.
So obvious.
So I'm listening to a couple of interesting...
Actually, I want to kind of transition to the EU for a minute.
Oh, good.
This came up.
Apparently, I was a little baffled by the sovereign rights commentaries that took place on CNBCW's fast talk, fast track, whatever it's called.
The overnight show on the stock market.
By the way, CNBC World, which is what it is, is really good.
It is.
It's so much better than the propaganda that CNBC in the States is.
They have some actual people on and they don't question them.
It's just like, oh, okay, yeah.
Yeah, that sounds about right.
So play sovereign rights.
Seeing here now in the Eurozone, he's actually warning us that...
I like her.
This is the crazy Norwegian chick with the pointy hairdo.
Yeah.
What's her name again?
I don't know.
It has catastrophic results if the Eurozone would fall apart, if Europe would fall apart, because that would as well mean...
That we can't really compete with emerging markets like Asia and as well the United States and other regions in the world, which are growing very fast.
And that is the main point Ackerman is saying, and that we as well should give up sovereign rights in order to save that Eurozone.
And with that, I'm sending it back over to you.
Well, don't you understand?
Well, she says this, but then if you play the second clip where he, the British guy, makes a comment, it's quite interesting because it brought up a definition issue with me.
Oh, okay.
Well, I was really enjoying that, actually, because I was kind of getting what you're saying.
What Joseph Ackerman is saying, then, is not that there should be a renaissance of a European spirit, but a renaissance of federal Europe.
I think they're two very different things, but I guess that's probably where he's coming from.
A renaissance?
Okay, so he says, he made the comment that federal Europe, which is what I always thought they were kind of going for anyway.
But I didn't realize that the British have their own definition of federal, and so when he said it, it wasn't like as a good thing.
The British actually think of a federated Europe as not what we think of as a federal system, where you have a separation of states that all have their own powers, which we're losing, by the way, and a balanced government.
In British parlance, federated Europe, and that's why he said in a condescending manner, means a European super state, a giant dictatorship.
Right.
Yes, but I mean, it's interesting because we can't, by letting the word federated or federal Europe go into the parlance is something, what Americans will never perceive that as necessarily a bad thing.
Ah, okay.
Well, you know, it's interesting you bring this up.
Because I was watching Haiku Herman, President of the United States of Europe, and he does this half-Christmas message, which, by the way, how rude is that if you're the President of the United States of Europe and there's no Happy Hanukkah, there's nothing about Kwanzaa.
I mean, there's only Christmas.
Kwanzaa.
Or Festivus, by the way.
Yeah, Festivus, exactly.
Or Solstice, whatever.
Yeah.
And so he's now calling for a new meeting.
We have to have a new meeting on the 30th of January because, of course, that's around the 30th of January, I think we'll be at the crisis stage again, so he's preparing for it.
But he also uses some really interesting Federalist language that I think, well, just bear with me and listen to it and you'll hear it.
Welcome to the meeting room of the European Council of Heads of State or Government.
This room is empty now, but it's very busy during our meetings.
And last time our discussions lasted even throughout the night.
We had to work at night!
By the way, what is a hat of state?
Is that something he wears?
Yeah, it's just a whole bunch of hats, yeah.
It's like a bunch of hipsters?
Are you making fun of his pronunciation again, John?
Wait until you hear about his grossness.
Next summit is already scheduled for 30 January.
30.
I'm prepared.
Dirty 30.
It's dirty January is the date.
...this meeting intensively.
It will be focused on jobs.
And that's a big challenge in a context where zero growth is expected in most of our economies.
In some of them, there will even be a recession.
We must take strong action on employment.
Bringing financial stability to the Eurozone remains absolutely key for our future.
We have taken major decisions this year to overcome the sovereign debt crisis.
Sovereign debt crisis.
Ah, okay, we're getting into it.
Almost all our member states are engaged in huge reform programs, aiming at more competitiveness for our companies and at much sounder public finances.
There is a social way out of the crisis.
Very important.
There is a social way out of the crisis, which I think means we're going to take society's money.
At the level of the union, we are helping, monitoring, and surveilling.
Don't you love that?
At the level of the union up here, Starfleet Command, we're way above all you little stupid social minions.
Oh, this guy is such an a-hole.
It's a joint effort.
The path is long.
Longer than we expected.
Now here it comes.
But let there be no doubt, there is a fundamental political will to move forward as a union, respecting fully each other situation.
The legacy of our founding fathers...
What?
What?
The legacy of our founding fathers...
Wow!
I mean, did he like...
That's a beauty.
That's a great catch.
Did he like take a presidential speech from the American...
Founding fathers?
What's the founding fathers of the EU? It's a bunch of bureaucrats.
Listen, the legacy of our founding fathers, a continent of peace, democracy, and prosperity...
Where were you?
Peace, prosperity, and I don't know.
A couple of people got hurt here and there.
I mean, wow.
There is no...
That's just lying.
This is not a legacy of peace and prosperity.
It's a legacy of war and destruction.
Yeah, totally.
Or did I read the wrong book?
Well, I don't know.
The legacy of our founding fathers.
I won't play the Christmas bit.
It's just annoying.
It's too impressive.
We have a moral duty to continue this mission.
We owe this in the first place to our fellow Europeans.
Like many of you, I will celebrate Christmas at home with my family.
And this time, for the very first time.
With my granddaughter.
I'm convinced that she and all other young Europeans will grow up in a vibrant and lively European Union.
To all of you, I wish a Merry Christmas and a happy start of the new year.
And to all, a good night.
The legacy of the Founding Fathers.
Who were the Founding Fathers of Europe?
George Washington.
Wait a second.
Founding Fathers of Europe.
The guy is insane.
There's a Wikipedia entry.
Here we go.
I'm sure you've heard of these guys.
Strictly speaking, seven politicians were key in launching the European construction.
Who played a key role.
Yes.
Which means what?
I don't know.
They showed up for lunch?
Yes.
Surely you've heard of Conrad Adenauer.
Yes, well, Conrad, he's the only famous name on there.
Joseph Beck?
Johan Willem-Bayen?
Oh, he's a Dutch guy.
Let me see who that guy was.
Let me see.
I don't even know who he is.
Oh, yeah, a Dutch banker.
Okay, I don't have to look any further.
Dutch banker?
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, a founding father.
A banker.
A Dutch banker.
Yeah.
Alcide de Gaspari.
From Italy?
Who was he?
Was he a banker too?
No, they call him one of the founding fathers.
Wow, I had no idea.
This is an actual badge of honor.
Hmm.
Jean Monnet?
Is that the painter?
He's considered to be the chief architect.
Hmm.
Kind of like Sergei.
The Sergei of the EU. Robert Schumann from France.
Independent political thinker and activist.
And Paul-Henri Spock.
Who was that?
He's from a distinguished Belgian family.
Socialist.
Alright, well there you go.
There's your founding fathers.
They should put them on the Eurocoins.
Yeah, they should.
And on the banknotes, Conrad Adenauer.
So we all can salute him and refer to him as the founding fathers.
Interesting.
All right.
So I stand corrected.
They have founding fathers.
I think this is a construct.
Explain.
I think this is dreamed up as a...
I think they felt the need to have founding fathers.
I don't know when this took place.
But let's take a look at...
Where's the wiki discussion?
When did this page, for example, crop up on Wikipedia?
Oh, there you go.
Now we're doing some...
This is the kind of work we do all the time, by the way.
Although we never do it together, which is kind of interesting.
But this is exactly how it works.
When I see people debating a bill on television, I go and read the bill so I can understand what it's really about.
When we see something crop up, you see something, you gotta consult the book of knowledge.
You gotta consult the book of knowledge.
It's worth it.
So often people will send me links to stuff.
I'm like, wow, man.
This seems to have been created in 2007.
The page?
Well, that's it.
That's when the founding fathers were recognized.
This guy, somebody, Jay Logan, created the page.
Wiki has a timeline you can access.
Created the page with the founding fathers of the European Union.
Number of men who have been recognized as made.
So what they've done, they've probably had a meeting at the EU.
What are we doing?
We've got to have some founding fathers here.
We've got to follow some models that work.
Now, can you click on that guy's link and see what other pages he's created?
Jay Logan?
Yeah.
That's always the fun thing to do.
By the way, we're teaching.
He's a EU guy.
Yeah, but what other pages has he created?
That's harder to determine just quickly.
Oh, well, that doesn't make any sense.
I can see all this crap he's done.
Well, while you're looking at that, a couple other Euroland...
Eurozone stuff.
Yeah, of course.
He works in the EU building.
It's his job.
He is the Ministry of Truth.
Go and create the Founding Fathers.
Okay.
What do we put in there?
I don't know, put a banker in, throw in a socialist.
And make sure they're from different countries.
Yeah, and make sure you've got one from Belgium and one from Luxembourg, because that's where we've got our buildings, so we've got to make that all look good.
Yeah, make sure there's a French guy, make sure there's a German for sure, otherwise we're never going to get anywhere.
What about an Italian guy?
Yeah, throw an Italian in.
It's a big country.
Is there an Italian on the list?
Mm-hmm.
Okay, we got the Italian covered.
What about, let's see, the Swiss guys?
We can't put it.
There's obviously none of them.
We already have the Dutch banker in.
Don't worry about it.
It's all good.
We got a Dutch banker.
What about our British guys?
Is there a British guy in there?
No, they don't count.
That's why they're out.
Oh, the British guy's been left out.
No wonder they feel snubbed.
They're not one of the founding fathers.
Meanwhile, let me see.
We had a banker take over Greece.
We have a Goldman Sachs guy running the European Central Bank.
We have another Goldman Sachs guy running Italy.
Now we have a new prime minister in Spain.
And that is a foreman Lehman Brothers banker.
You can't write this stuff.
You really can't.
But the European Central Bank, and this is why the Lehman thing was interesting to me, came out with a statement, and I'll read this statement to you.
Positive market responses to European measures aimed at stemming the crisis appear to have been short lived.
This is the European Central Bank, the Federal Reserve of Europe.
Indeed, a bumpy ratification process appears to have contributed to additional market uncertainties.
At the same time, downward revisions to the outlook for macroeconomic growth contributed to a lower shock absorption capacity of euro area financial institutions.
And here it comes.
Ultimately, the transmission of tensions among sovereigns across banks and between the two intensified to take on systemic crisis proportions not witnessed since the collapse of Lehman Brothers three years ago.
So, does that mean that it's going to be worse?
Well, a lot of people think it might be.
We're going to have a huge Lehman...
I mean, they're actually bringing up the collapse of Lehman Brothers as the outlook from the European Central Bank.
Wow.
Hey, you already got our founding fathers.
Do you have to have our crises as well?
Really?
Can't you make up your own stuff?
They just steal everything.
This is like Microsoft taking ideas from Apple.
Yeah.
Meanwhile, in the barony of Stephen Pelsmacher, our baron and patron from Belgium, things are not good.
We had a huge strike in Belgium.
Trains, metros, buses.
What else do we have?
No mail delivery.
The public television stopped broadcasting.
They only were broadcasting a couple of people sitting in the glass house bitching at each other.
Hospitals and police forces are on Sunday rosters.
So the place has fallen apart because people are so angry about the austerity measures.
They're saying, no, we're not going to do this.
And then even better than that, in the Czech Republic...
More than 15,000 checks, when they registered to vote, they registered as Knights of the Jedi, as their religion, and proclaimed their allegiance to Luke Skywalker.
Yeah.
It is now an official religion in the Czech Republic.
15,070 inhabitants registered as Knights of the Jedi.
I think we should do that.
We should be Knights of the Jedi.
And by the way, easy on taking our Knight stuff, will ya?
And furthermore...
They'll be getting a phone call from Lucas.
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, you can't do that, man.
It is copyrighted.
Yeah, you can't do that.
You owe me money.
Yeah, you owe me money.
I haven't got enough money.
Dutch Defense Minister Hans Hillen is now pushing through an idea, which has a lot of support, apparently, for compulsory community service for all teenagers.
In Gitmo Nation lowlands, they feel that all teenagers should perform at least one year of useful community work, whether in healthcare, the environment, or military.
Yeah, that's useful community work.
Military.
Hillen said, this investment would teach youngsters that society also belongs to them.
So we're seeing that here, too.
Of course, this was a meme that Obama ran on, the community service thing.
And I was thinking about this.
During the last real big depression, not the depression of 1970, but the depression of 1930 through 1940, they put people to work in the Civilian Conservation Corps, the Works Project Administration, the WPA, and all these other things, but they paid them!
And they were doing community work, community service.
They were building, putting bridges up and all this other stuff.
But they paid them!
Right.
Now we're just trying to get them to work for free like slaves.
Well, yeah.
I mean, what's happening, and this is happening in Gitmo Nation East in the UK as well, if you're on social, you know, if you have social benefits, that's when...
Oh, hold on.
What is happening here?
Don't do this.
If you're on social benefit, then they're going to make you work.
That's the whole idea.
Yeah, it's a form of slave labor.
I mean, you could say that, well, we're not going to give you social benefits, but we'll give you this job and pay you.
That's different.
I could rationalize seeing them do that, but they don't do that.
Almost as though they have the two options.
You've got, look, we're going to give these people free money because they're down and out, but we're going to make them work so they realize they're slaves.
Or...
Process number two, we're not going to give them any social benefits because they're down and up, but we're going to give them a job they have to take, which we'll pay them for, and it'll be called the Works Project Administration or something like that, but then they won't fully realize that they're slaves.
So which way do they go?
They go with the, let's make sure they know where their place is.
Right.
Just, you know, it's not great analysis, it's just...
I think this is the president of the Deutsche Bank here.
And for us, Europe is not only our destiny, it's also our desire.
It's a lesson we learned.
And so please understand, for us, Europe is much more than a currency or a single market.
What?
It is a key question.
It's a political union, what we want.
And it is not the first time we have to find answers after a controversial.
And we will find an answer this time, once again.
Yes, we will.
This is our goal and this is our duty and we will make it.
Yes, no matter what the consequences.
That guy freaks me out.
Now, my understanding was when this thing began, it was designed to create a formidable, and it was also expressed in the clip we had a few minutes ago, a formidable force worldwide as a single market that could, you know, pretty much...
Well, yes.
The Chinese and Americans at bay.
Yeah.
It was a mechanism for selling stuff.
It was a capitalistic mechanism.
Now it's changed into a political thing.
This has always been the point.
One world government.
This has always been the point, and of course we discovered this when we read the actual Lisbon Treaty documents, and what was that, John, 2008?
Yeah, 2008.
We discovered that it was all poppycock.
Just after the wiki page was put up.
Yeah, it was all poppycock.
This is all set up and designed, and it's all exactly the way it was supposed to go.
By the founding fathers, by the way, including the Dutch banker.
This is the whole point.
But it's unstoppable.
That's the problem.
It's unstoppable.
I don't know what to do about it.
There's nothing we can do about it.
What's unstoppable is the fact they're going to have a civil war.
Because this isn't going to continue because the public is not ready for one world loss of sovereignty.
I mean, the French.
The French are so French.
That's all they do.
We're French, French, French.
I mean, they make a big deal out of it.
Now they're going to be what?
The Germans are going to tell them how to make cheese?
The cheese is so stinky.
You must not make stinky cheese no more.
This is what we have been pining for for many, many years.
We have been before the stinky cheese crisis.
And now we have the power in Europe that the French will no longer make stinky cheese and stop eating the snails.
It could go that way, man.
Yeah, well, it could.
It is.
It does exactly where it's headed.
So there's an interesting little crisis in Spain that is underway.
It was shown on one of the talk shows.
Play Stolen Babies.
Oh my goodness.
Their child may be alive.
For years there had been whispers, but now an unbelievable story was exploding in the press.
Allegations that for decades organized networks stole newborn babies from their mothers and sold the babies to other families.
Back in January, more than 250 families filed cases with Spain's Attorney General demanding investigations.
The number has grown since.
Today, nearly 1,500 cases have been filed.
This is a famous doctor.
If anyone is responsible for prompting all this...
Wow.
So, it turns out that, and you can place stolen babies to it until you get sick of listening to it.
It turns out that since the Franco administration, right until, I guess, the mid-80s, these hospitals, a family would have twins.
And the doctor would come out and say, Oh, we're so sorry.
One of the two twins died.
Wow.
And they say, oh, can I see it?
No, no, no, it's so traumatizing.
We really don't want you to see the dead baby.
Wow, this is horrible.
I'll listen to two.
To report systematic baby stealing.
You've investigated this for so many years.
Can you say without a doubt that babies were stolen in Spain?
From the 40s until 80s as a minimum?
We can talk about children that were kidnapped from their families, from their mothers.
Stolen babies, niños robados.
Armingo and her team found the practice began after fascist dictator Francisco Franco seized power during Spain's civil war of the late 1930s.
The government would remove children from mothers who were political prisoners and give them to families who supported the regime.
All this starts like a political repression.
But then it goes over the years from being a political thing to really being economic, to being a business.
Yes.
Money starts to change hands.
Yes.
Large sums, thousands of dollars were paid for the babies.
Spain was an ultra-conservative society dominated by the Catholic Church, and nuns or doctors were often key players.
And who's getting that money?
The nuns?
The doctors?
The church?
Little by little, all together.
All of them?
Yes, all of them.
Yeah, well, reptilians have to eat something.
So they actually, most of these people are still alive.
Wow.
I mean, we're getting the mob with the, you know, the angry mob.
Well, of course.
I mean, but all of your, this stuff is rampant.
This is so discouraging.
In the Netherlands, something else, a crisis as well, which you haven't heard over here.
They released a report, and it turns out that the Roman Catholic Church in the Netherlands, that clergy, for over a period of 40 years, has been molesting children.
They believe 20,000 children, and many of these guys are still alive and still practicing.
And everyone's like, they won't do it anymore.
It's okay.
You wouldn't have to throw anybody in jail.
And people are outraged by this.
You know what gets me?
The church's reaction to all this stuff is that the Pope, if he called these guys out and excommunicated them, because most of these Catholic priests are very serious about their religion, but nobody wants to be excommunicated.
It's a huge, you go to hell, basically.
Yeah, that's not good.
Where's the big list?
Why don't they bring these guys out on charges that you're excommunicated, whatever the process is, and throw them out and put them into that limbo and let them deal with it?
I have not heard of anyone being excommunicated from any of this stuff.
Have you?
No.
You don't even know what it means.
Yeah, it does.
Excuse me?
What kind of snide comment was that?
I didn't know that you knew.
I mean, excommunication is not talked about much, and I don't think everyone knows what it's all about, but it's a big deal to Catholics.
And I don't see why these guys aren't excommunicated.
Left and right in this whole...
They found the nun who stole one of the babies and threatened the woman.
In that other story, I didn't obviously play the whole thing.
But the woman was suspicious and she says, if you say anything...
She basically threatened her with ruination.
This nun should be excommunicated immediately.
I'm not understanding why this isn't happening.
Because it's all sanctioned by the Catholic Church.
John, I mean, you do really not understand that?
That pedo bear is rampant in the Vatican amongst all governments?
The elites of this world eat babies for energy?
It's like, you know, I have like a Luna bar.
You know, let me eat this baby.
The occult is for real, dude.
Yeah, dude.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to dude you.
That was not nice of me.
Yeah, the more I hear about this stuff, the more I just have to believe it.
So let's move on.
Staying in the European side of the ocean, Pierce Morgan.
I think you've had this suspicion about Pierce Morgan.
Oh, that he ran away to America to avoid...
Yeah, I saw this.
That he ran away to America to avoid prosecution for basically being the founding father of phone hacking.
Yeah.
We can play a little bit of this Gurley and Pierce Morgan clip, but I want to mention something that I thought was, as soon as I saw this, I said, oh, this is funny.
He's testifying before the tribunal.
On Skype.
Yeah, well, or at some video conference.
He will not, and first thing I thought, he's not going to go to England and get arrested.
No.
They're going to have to extradite him, and that's a process they're not going to go through because it's too much work.
So he's not moving at all.
He's not going to go back to England until this blows over.
But we can play a little Pierce Morgan.
You can see what it's like.
It's a very boring...
It's definitely under the category real news, but I did catch myself...
Because it was on C-SPAN. I mean, C-SPAN isn't playing this.
That's why I don't call it real news.
Tap in the standard four-digit code to hear all your messages.
I'll change mine just in case, but it makes me wonder how many public figures and celebrities are aware of this little trick.
When were you first made aware of this little trick?
Well, according to this, Friday 26th of January 2001.
Were you aware of it before?
Not as far as I'm aware, no.
Who made you aware of this little trick?
I have no idea.
The tooth fairy.
It was ten years ago and I can't remember.
Can you assist at all with the context?
If you look at the start of the entry, which deals with something else altogether, just refresh your memory.
Okay, you can stop it.
I have to go on my rant.
He drags on and on with these guys trying to get him to...
I don't know what they're trying to get him to do because he's not going to do it.
Admit guilt.
But I didn't realize, because this started in 2001, the phone hacking, that all the phones shipped in Europe had a default password code for getting the phone mail.
Not all, but every network has their own default password code.
I know, but say you had...
There's a limited number of networks.
But I was under the impression, because now he says, well, you know, you type in the four-letter code and you can hear their messages, which could be a bonanza if you're a reporter, I mean, to be honest about it.
But I find it so mundane, the hack...
Just type in some...
This is like having...
In the early days of the Wi-Fi networks, everybody...
All the networks were wide open because there was no forced security like there is today.
So you could get on anybody's network and be on the Internet pretty easily.
But...
I always, because we did this show on the X3 show that Engo and Eisner were there, and Engo had this long, convoluted methodology.
There's really complicated ways to cracking into somebody's phone than in details getting them to pick up the phone to put it into a busy mode, and then you do this, and then you do that, and you can get their password in some very, you know, black hat manner.
When I hear what actually happened, I should have thought to myself, these guys can't dream up anything like that.
They were just putting in the default, hoping for the best.
So, the easiest way, actually, and I think that has now been stopped, is to spoof the caller ID, where essentially you make the call, make it look like it's coming from your own number, that you don't even need a password, or didn't.
That's the way it used to work.
But the point...
That irks me.
And I know you're not falling into the trap, but we have all these conversations about who's listening.
It's on C-SPAN. It's taking a valuable time.
Something important is going to happen.
It's the British Parliament.
The inquest.
Everyone's looking at this.
But meanwhile, the government is sucking up all of your information, all of your data.
They run Facebook.
They lie to you.
They run all the media.
They're constantly checking your voicemail messages, email, your Twitter accounts, everything, and no one gives a crap.
Oh, but when it's Hugh Grant, this is what really, really, really pisses me off.
We should have an inquisition about that.
That's what you should be talking about.
And people in Europe who accept this, and Gitmo Nation East, and I think it's less than we believe it is, you know, there's cameras everywhere.
There's cameras in your trash bins.
They're looking at everything.
Blackberry has given all of the decryption codes so that people can check your emails, everything.
It's crazy.
This is such a distraction for what's really going on, that you're living in a police state, and you are meant to be made angry about Pierce, idiot, douchebag Morgan, who somehow, ooh, he was such a hacker, that he listened to Hugh Grant about him kissing some girl.
Who gives a crap?
You already did this rant a second ago, and you played the jingle.
Well, you made me kind of angry that you bring this up.
It was interesting to me.
My point was that there wasn't much hacking going on.
It was just somebody putting in a default code and listening to messages casually.
And what kind of messages?
Who leaves voicemail messages for anyone anymore?
Who does that?
Yeah, well, you're still missing my point.
No, I understand your point.
I understand your point.
Don't leave me a voicemail message, ever.
I send text messages to you.
Yeah, of great importance.
Turn on C-SPAN 3 now.
Well, I'm not a big fan of leaving these complicated messages on devices.
Of course not.
But it just gets me.
For one thing, half the time nobody picks them up.
But anyway, that's another story.
Yeah, no, the government's spying on everything you do.
And nobody cares.
That's my point.
I care.
Yeah, well, yeah, I care.
A new game coming out in 2013 based on the Tom Clancy novel Rainbow Six Patriots is the name of the game.
Have you seen the trailer for this game, John?
No, I have not.
So, of course, these gaming consoles and all these in-depth first-person shooter, you know, completely almost virtual reality games are preconditioning for our children.
And in this particular scene, I'll play the audio, it's about a minute, you see a couple guys in suits burst into a banker's office.
I will narrate as we go along.
Product not yet rated.
Not yet rated.
So you see these guys walking through a banker office.
They're in suits, but they got all kinds of...
This is the day we've been waiting for.
Years of training.
Years of sacrifice.
This is for the jobs you streamlined.
The debts you collected.
This is for the homes you foreclosed on.
The bailouts you took.
We are the true patriots.
It's time for a new balance of So they grab this banker.
They put explosives on a belt.
They throw him out the window.
and he's almost on the ground in New York City and they detonate his belt.
So, Ubisoft once again.
What?
So this is a Tom Clancy story?
Apparently.
Huh.
So they bust into the banker's office, they grab the guy at gunpoint, they strap on an explosive belt, they shoot out the window, they throw the guy out the window, like the 50th story or whatever, they watch him go down, and just before he hits the taxi cabs down below in New York City, they detonate his belt, and everything explodes down below.
Because they're the Patriots.
What kind of a message is this?
Well, 2013, I almost can't wait.
Can't they get it out earlier?
We need the violence now.
Yeah.
Call Ubisoft.
These guys gotta work faster.
This is sublimation.
You know, people get down on the bank or so they play this game and they feel that they've accomplished something by killing the virtual banker in a dumb game.
That's all it amounts to as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, but it's kind of not okay.
No, it's like the punching bag.
You know, the Japanese corporations will have a punching bag with the boss's head down in the basement, and any employee who feels like can go down there and punch the boss's head.
Punch the boss, yeah.
You know, and then they feel better.
Don't we have some Adam and John punching balls you can punch us?
Yeah.
It would be a good premium.
We get people in the face.
Which we should be doing now.
I've got to, uh, let's mention some of our donors if you want to bring up the...
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Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
We do have a few donors.
And not boners.
We want to thank them all.
Hold on a second, John.
We have a jingle for that.
What?
I couldn't hear a word of that.
I just heard a...
Me neither.
I'll try it again.
Oh, it's cute.
Yeah, you can barely hear.
But it's very subtle.
It is.
It is subtle.
It doesn't sound too good on Skype.
Yeah, boner be a donor.
Yeah.
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Hmm, how does that work?
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I most look forward to listening each week.
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Jonas Ensby in Oslo, Norway, 5555.
Well, the corporate shills are still all on vacation.
I send a donation as a thank you for keeping me entertained throughout the holidays.
Every episode you release during this season is like a present to me.
This donation comes in spite of Adam denigrating our national treasures by calling our brown cheese stinky.
You know, I don't do that.
It's like, that's not true.
Every other person who donates from Gitmo Nation Stinky Cheese says Gitmo Nation Stinky Cheese.
I didn't make it up.
That's not fair.
Now he says it's the Gitmo Nation land without butter.
Okay.
They don't have butter there?
Oh, you hear about what's happening in Norway?
The butter?
They've decided all of a sudden, ten years late, to go on the Atkins diet.
No.
Yes, and in the...
This is the big news.
You can look it up.
Look it up on the Wikipedia.
Because of this, they've all gone into eating tons of butter, and they wiped out the entire country's supply of butter.
In fact, there was a big case where they're starting to smuggle butter in from Sweden, and some guy got arrested.
It's like a drug.
Wait, this is crazy.
Yeah.
Butter shortage.
Norway butter.
Butter crisis in Norway.
Oh my goodness.
Wait, here's a butter message to the USA. I think they're actually applying now or pleading to us to send them butter.
Yeah, they've gone nuts.
Hold on a second.
What is this?
Hi.
My name is Tommy.
I'm a singer.
I'm sorry.
I think that's something else.
I think that's a wrong link.
It was a butter message.
I'm sorry.
It's a different butter.
It's from an XXX domain.
Alright, so, is this like a salt thing?
Is this like butter's going to kill you?
No, they decided to go on this high-fat diet.
Yeah, but the whole country doesn't just decide to go on a diet.
The whole country has gone, it's like mass hysteria.
Because what?
And they've just eaten all their butter.
Huh.
Well, I think we need a butter drive.
Well, we need a butter dry for Norway.
And they're just not that far from France, which has got some of the greatest butter.
Or Ireland's got good butter.
So what are they using instead?
Margarine or oil?
I think they're just using...
I don't know.
They're not big olive oil users.
What do they cook with?
Yak fat, I think, is the next thing on their list.
Yak fat?
Okay.
Reindeer drippings.
And here's where you say, I've had some yak fat.
It was really quite tasty.
Yum.
Anyway, onward.
Adrian Turner in Hove, Southeast Sussex.
Double nickels on the dime in the morning, JNA. Thank you for your outstanding efforts recently.
Here's my small contribution towards bread for your tables.
May I... Ask for a douchebag birthday call out from my friend Stefan Reimschusel from London.
Yeah, absolutely.
Douchebag!
And we'll say happy birthday to the douchebag.
Not a problem.
His birthday is Christmas Eve, so being a tight Brit, I always duck two gifts.
One will cover both birthday and Christmas.
Kind regards, Adrian Turner.
Good luck getting Reimschusel right.
Reimschüssel.
Jay Kincaid, Rosewell, Georgia, Double Knuckles on the Dime, a.k.a.
Jazoon.
Jay Zuni.
Jay Zuni.
Long time boner, first time donor.
Good for you, Jay.
Zuni.
Josiah Thomas in West Des Moines, Iowa.
Double nickels on the dime.
Merry Christmas.
The producer didn't forget about No Agenda They Live.
It was hilarious, by the way.
Cheers.
He saw the movie, which we recommended a few shows back.
Mark Philip Thomas in Gold Bar, Washington.
Wow.
Wow.
Nice name for a town.
5510.
In the morning, John and Adam, not sure if you're still accepting double nickels on the dime.
If not, feel free to send it back.
I'm looking for some karma over the next week.
If it all goes well, it'll help me get a better paying job.
Keep up the good work.
And John, you really need to schedule a no-agenda meet-up up here in the Seattle area.
Okay, we can do that.
You've got karma.
I think it's karma.
Nigel Ewan.
Ewan.
Nigel Ewan.
Ewan.
Columbus, Ohio, double nickels on the dime.
Thanks for everything.
You sure are keeping me fully entertained over the Christmas break from art school.
Send us your art.
Michael Martin, Simpsonville, South Carolina, 5333.
First time donor, long time boner.
Can I get a karma shout out for my iPhone app?
Santa's naughty and nice list.
Spent more time on graphics than I made on it.
I hope this mention can put it over the top.
It's only 99 cents.
Yeah, okay.
We'll give you some karma.
And I'm sure the guys at Apple are not.
Hey, let's block that No Agenda show again and get that app out of the store.
You've got karma.
It could be dangerous to children.
Ryan Lackey, London, Ontario, 5252.
Merry Christmas.
Stuart Burt, Mount Pleasant, Texas, 5101.
Sir Samuel van der Plank, happy holidays.
Keep up the show.
Please give me some karma, $50.33.
You've got karma.
$50 from Alan Bean and Greg Stearley, respectively from Oakland and Santa Monica.
Kirk James.
We actually had a little thing.
Is this James Kirk?
No, it's Kirk James.
It is Kirk James.
It's Kirk James.
$50.
I appreciate all y'all do and like to shout at karma for my fantasy football Super Bowl game this weekend.
I also like to wish all listeners a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Now, does this count?
Because I thought we weren't allowed to do karma for sports teams anymore.
Is it okay?
It's not really a sports team.
He wants his karma personally for his game.
Okay.
Well, then I'm more than happy to hand out the karma for that.
We've got karma.
I'm not.
Please put some of this towards possible New Year's DSC as I need a new great two to three hour show for the cycle training I'm doing this year.
I don't know if you realize how...
Missed the DSC is anyway.
Let me just respond to that.
So, totally appreciate it.
Thank you very much for the Christmas gift, the mad money.
But I can't afford to go to jail.
This is no longer acceptable.
Yeah, on the pre-stream once in a while I'll play a song, but you really think it's a good idea for me to put an mp3 out there with two to three hours of commercially licensed music that I can't license or pay for?
It's just not a good idea anymore.
It's over.
Can't you do a whole show with Pod Freak's songs?
Yeah, but a lot of it just sucks.
The whole point is I like going down memory road and playing 60s, 70s, 80s.
You know, it's fun stuff.
I'm just not into a lot of...
No.
No, I can't.
We need a listener that works at ASCAP that can...
Forget about it.
It's impossible to do.
It is impossible to do.
You can't license it.
They rip off the podcasters to keep podcasters from doing exactly what you were doing.
And the streamers and everybody.
You can't do it.
It's perfect now to make an example out of me.
I can't do it.
Can't.
Yeah, so until that changes, he can't do it.
Kristen Morgan in South San Francisco, 50 bucks.
In the morning, John and Adam, I'd like to send a birthday shout-out to my boyfriend, Andrew Johnson, in South San Francisco.
His birthday is Thursday, the 22nd.
Can we also give him a karma shot for a promising new year?
Thank you for all your hard work and the best podcast in the universe, Kristen.
Absolutely.
You've got karma.
Best podcast in the universe!
And finally, Leah Hahn in Portland, Oregon.
$50 a donation on behalf of Nick Cupcake Reguero.
Paul Vela in Tauchester, Northamstenshire.
$50.
And Philip Smith in Frankston, Victoria.
And Thomas Imbrex in Belgium.
$50.
Keep informing us you're going to have a karma shot if you could use it.
You've got karma.
There was one late donation that came in, John, which I've been on the back channel with Shil and everyone.
Paul the book guy has completed his knighthood, $999.99, so we will throw in the extra penny there.
And he donated $50 karma for Sir Jeff, Scott McKenzie, and Maya Santos for helping with Krampus A Christmas Tale, the audiobook.
Krampus A Christmas Tale, the audiobook.
So, thank you very much, Paul the Book Guy.
You will join the Night of the No Agenda Roundtable later today, and thank you for your $50 donation, because that is loving for the show, and karma going out to your list.
You've got karma.
And I want to remind people to go to NoAgendaShow.com, NoAgendaNation.com, Dvorak.org, slash NA, and ChannelDvorak.com slash NA for continued support.
We will be running a clip show on Sunday, but that doesn't mean we should.
And we will be thanking everybody next Thursday for their donations between now and then.
And the clip show is just lots of clips from the stuff that we've played over the years on the show.
Not us necessarily, but clips of stuff.
Probably it's going to be only your clips.
I mean, how did you even get my clips?
You didn't ask me that.
You didn't have any clips during this era.
What?
Until the last year and a half or so.
Oh, I'm sorry.
It's the John clip show.
It's the John clip show, but these are clips that we discussed.
So, do you have like the McChrystal in there?
I got some McChrystal material.
You got Wesley Clark in there?
I'm sorry, what?
Wesley Clark?
No, that's a clip I would be nice to drop in, but...
No, there's a lot of clips we don't have.
I must have like a thousand hours of clips.
I just grabbed the clips that try...
I try to make it so the clip that...
You remember the movie with Mike Myers where he played the spy?
What's his name?
Yeah, Austin Powers, Mojo.
Austin Powers movie where the big thing says, that looks like a...
And then they cut to a hot...
Dog, and then they cut to, you know, that kind of thing where the clips try to...
Oh, it's comedy.
...associate them a little bit.
It's comedy.
It doesn't...
Well, that remains to be seen.
Okay.
Well, John put a lot of work into it.
I know that.
Well, here's where the work comes.
I got a clip.
It's 13 seconds, and I add a two-second clip, and then I add a five-second clip, and then there's a 20-second clip.
These clips aren't very long, so there's another 30 seconds.
I could go hours, and I've only pieced together like three minutes because these clips are too short.
No, we don't have long clips.
No, the thing took you like two and a half years.
You've been threatening this clip show forever.
I have.
I've been threatening it for a long time, and you still won't like it.
Why not?
Because it's the John clip show.
Oh, are we getting all testy?
Oh, please.
Grumpy man.
Oh, please.
Oh, please.
Wow.
Wow.
You can't take a little criticism.
Exactly.
All right.
Then take this.
Donating, my friends, is loving.
Dvorak.org slash N-A-N. It's your birthday, birthday!
I'm no one gender!
Adrian Turner congratulates his friend Stefan Reimschlüssel.
I'll try it again.
Stefan Reimschusel from London, fine British name.
He celebrates on Saturday, Christmas Eve, on the 24th.
And Kristen Morgan congratulates her boyfriend, Andrew Johnson, in South San Francisco.
He is celebrating his birthday today.
Happy birthday on behalf of all your buddies here in the entire back office at the No Agenda Show.
It's your birthday, yeah!
And then we have...
It's nice.
We haven't had some nights in, what, four weeks now, I think?
It's been about four weeks?
We haven't had any nights for a couple weeks.
Yeah, a couple weeks.
So let me just...
Ooh.
It's a little rusty.
It hasn't been used in a long time.
Mine's stuck.
There you go.
You got it.
All right.
Spike, step forward.
Paul the book guy and Armand Breuer.
Kneel before the dais.
And extend your ring fingers.
All of you will be receiving the official ring of the Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable.
And you receive your knighthoods today.
I hereby pronounce these Sir Spike, Sir Paul, and Sir Armand.
Now all Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable.
Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys, Chardonnay, and Hot Pants and Booze at your disposal right here.
And a little bit of eggnog.
So as we begin the second half of the show.
Yes.
I have a I ran into the show.
The 2012 thing.
And we're headed toward 2012, obviously.
Uh, We're going to do, of course, in a week.
In fact, yesterday was one year until the world evaporates.
Yeah.
And so I was watching this thing and there's this one.
The crackpots are good.
This next year, by the way, I want to kind of clue people in on what the show is going to be like for the next year.
For the next year, we are going to have some of the craziest stories because of this 2012 thing.
And I'd like to know how this 2012 thing became such a huge phenomenon.
Okay.
I'd just like to know.
I don't know.
Oh, well, because the destruction of the world, not that we're going to blow up and melt or anything like that, but the financial destruction of the world has been well planned in advance.
Yes, it's a cycle.
Nothing's planned.
Would you like me to finish my...
No, I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
Why don't we just play the clip show now then?
No, no, no.
This has been planned for a long time.
I don't know if it's going to be exactly December 21st, but then we slip in the Mayan calendar thing, which is always great, and it just became a meme.
Everyone's just pegging this date.
It's stupid.
Okay, well we have, the clip I'm going to start with is UFOs Meet 2012.
That is the highest mountain.
Gerald has teamed up with survivalist Louis Decordier.
They aim to build a doomsday-proof community in the Sierra Nevada mountains of Spain.
That is not the right clip, I don't believe.
Is that UFOs meet 2012 or is that 2012 aside or part two?
No, I'm sorry.
You're right.
I had the wrong one queued up.
You're right.
Here we go.
And I think one of the things you'll find on the internet is that much of the 2012 mythology is tied together with other conspiracy theory.
Peter Gersten is a criminal lawyer living in Arizona who made a name for himself studying UFOs.
He's bought into a wild conspiracy theory that goes like this.
Human beings exist in a computer program.
And on December 21, 2012, at 11.11 a.m., the exact time of the winter solstice, the current program shuts down.
I can tell you what's going to happen, what I believe is going to happen, but I'm still receiving information about it.
Gersten believes he's received a sign that he's been chosen for a mission.
To jump off Bell Rock in Sedona, Arizona at the exact moment of the solstice.
And if he does, he can save the world.
And I'm not doing it out of desperation or despondency.
In other words, I'm not.
I'm doing it because I believe I need to do it to help my children, to help my grandchildren, to help all carbon-based life forms.
And if I'm wrong, everybody dies.
Wait a minute.
What is he going to do to save the world?
He's going to literally jump off a cliff.
Cool.
That'll help.
Okay.
I do think that there is something going on with how our brains are communicating better with brain-to-brain waves and all that.
I'm a total believer in that stuff.
And that we are moving into the age of Aquarius and that things will change and the earth is changing.
It's in constant change.
But total doom and destruction?
No, I highly doubt that.
Okay, play part two where he goes on with his little, what he's going to do, this guy.
Now I need to know what it is.
2-20-12, part two.
So we missed the part one?
No, that was part one.
I got it.
Gersten calls it his leap of faith.
And he's encouraging others to make their own leap.
What if you have teenagers following you?
You know, it could be a justification for an insane act, but I'm not responsible for anybody else.
Everybody has their own responsibility.
At 11.11am, Gersten says a portal in the sky will open, and if he leaps through it, the prophecies of doom will be undone.
But before he sets things right, Gersten hopes to make a little money.
And it'd be nice if it was documented, if it was recorded.
And it'd be nice if I anticipate that and say, okay, let's do it now and let's make some money because there probably are things that I need to do that probably will take funds.
And there's the rub.
It wouldn't be doomsday without money being made and 2012 is shaping up to be a bonanza.
I agree with that.
What was this on?
What are you watching?
You know, I'm regretful that I didn't take a careful note to say where this came from, but I think it was National Geographic or one of these one-time educational channels.
And by the way, whatever happened to these channels?
The Learning Channel, National Geographic, the History Channel, they've all gone to just junk programming.
No, that is also a part of the 2012.
You know, you are being mind-controlled.
And you, in particular, today, it's really shown through.
I mean, the Pierce Morgan and now this.
And people are being mind-controlled by television.
There's no doubt about it.
Yeah.
What is wrong?
What is wrong?
Would you like your tea?
Auntie!
Auntie!
Uncle John wants his tea!
He's ringing his bell!
And you have to go, I want my tea!
See, I thought you were going to go into the ECAT thing, which everyone is talking about.
No, go.
You take it.
The ECAT thing is pretty cool.
This is the energy catalyzer, which Andrea Rossi invented.
Uh-huh.
And it's a device in which hydrogen gas-powered nickel metal...
And a catalyst, of which I don't know what the catalyst is, are combined to produce a large amount of heat.
And he announced this several years ago, and he just came out with it.
And everyone's talking about it.
There's a whole bunch of interesting...
I mean, you can't really check the validity of the demonstrations of it.
But there's a whole website, e-catworld, which maybe that's the joke.
I don't know.
No, but it's pretty spectacular stuff.
It's like, I guess, some kind of low-energy nuclear reactor.
I don't know.
You should take a look at it, John.
I mean, I'd love to hear your real unbiased...
E-Cat World, Andrea Rossi's Cold Fusion.
Yeah.
E-Cat World.
Yeah.
The guy comes across as pretty legit.
I mean, all the alternative energy zealots, myself included, are pretty excited about it.
And it produces heat, and of course, with the heat, then you can create steam, and then with that, you can do a whole bunch of stuff.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
I've always believed that we're being screwed.
The oil thing is just a good way to make money because there's free energy out there.
Zero point energy.
Yeah, well I think people should just cut themselves off from the grid and just do the zero point stuff at their house and they don't have to worry about it.
Nobody's doing that, by the way.
How come none of these guys have got all these crazy ideas actually powering in?
Well, a lot of them get killed or disappeared or suicided.
Oh, they get killed.
Okay, that's what it is.
They get suicided.
So, while you were doing all that, there's a new...
This is so disgusting.
We've been following Haiti for two years.
We just passed the two-year anniversary, didn't we?
Or is it coming up now?
I think it's just over two years as we speak.
Yeah, the Haitian earthquake, billions of dollars, estimates between $4 and $6 billion raised.
We had the huge concert.
We had everywhere around the world, people were raising money for Haiti.
And, of course, we still have hundreds of thousands of people in tent camps who are pooping their guts out.
Because instead of the money, they got, what is it called?
Cholera.
Cholera, that's right.
Brought in by the U.N. workers.
By the way, how does that work?
How do you, as a U.N. worker...
Get cholera in the first place.
You've got to be sick as a dog.
Yeah.
But you're showing up?
I mean, I need to get to work.
These people were poisoned.
They were poisoned.
And then we have Kim Kardashian going to Haiti.
And it's just going to be a great vacation place.
We've talked about this.
I don't have to rehash it.
Over and over again, we said the Clintons are behind this.
This is bullcrap.
I don't even believe the earthquake was a natural occurrence.
It was a pretty coincidental first one in 80 years on somewhere where there was never a known fault.
Okay, whatever.
And I want to really like Sean Penn, because I do think he has boots on the ground and he's really trying to help.
But then he comes out with this fundraiser, and I'm really annoyed by this thing called Crowdrise.
Here's the first commercial, and it's Miley Cyrus, it's Sarah Silverman, it's all the typical Hollywood actors and musicians and LL Cool J, and oh, let's go raise some more money for Haiti.
Home means many things to many people.
Home is what I miss when I'm away.
Home is freedom.
Home for me is being in my gym, working out, with the music blasting.
Home is where I have people around me that only love me and want the best for me.
Home is where my babies are.
Home is where I can pull down my pants and be like, what is this?
Is this something?
Do I need to go to the doctor?
Still, Sarah Silverman is funny, though.
Dreaming is not so much a right as it is a human need.
And without home, there's little else to dream about.
On January 12, 2010, two million people were displaced by the earthquake in Haiti.
It's two years later and there's still hundreds of thousands of people living in tent cities.
JPHRO has treated over a hundred thousand patients, brought in over a hundred thousand pounds of medical supplies, and delivered over a thousand babies.
The organization is committed to give children a place to read and write.
So the kids can have food on the table.
A place to celebrate life.
Now is Haiti's magic moment.
Help us help Haiti home. Help us help Haiti home. Help us help Haiti home. Help us help Haiti home.
Go to crowdrise.com slash Haiti and donate.
And get involved.
Get the word out.
Help us help Haiti home.
So I look at this CrowdRise.com slash Haiti.
And this CrowdRise thing is very annoying.
And I think it's bad.
Because what this is, it's a fundraising website where you can register your charity.
And when people donate, then they get points.
And they can redeem these points for, you know, clothing material, hats and t-shirts and crap made in China.
They gamified it.
Well, thank you for mentioning that.
Here's Sarah Silverman playing into the game.
You go to crowdrise.com forward slash Haiti page.
Click on whatever my thing is.
There's going to be a thing where you can click on my page of it.
And then once you donate, you're entered into a raffle of people who donated on my page.
It's disgusting.
So it's like, yeah, they've gamified it, which is a big deal because that's how it goes viral.
And so I want to find out about this CrowdRise organization.
And they have no financial, it's a commercial company.
And here's how they do it.
First of all, if you want to start, you have to get an account.
So you can get the free basic account, which I don't think gives you much.
But then you have the featured account.
So if you want to be featured, you pay $299 a year, $499 for a Royale account.
And then each transaction, they charge prices ranging from a flat 4.95%, so 5% charge on each donation.
What does PayPal charge?
Not necessarily that much.
I mean, they charge maybe 5% on really small numbers, but it's, I think, generally speaking, less.
Or a 5% charge on each donation plus a $1 transaction fee on donations under $25 and a $2.50 transaction fee on donations $25 and over.
This is a money-making scam.
Money-making scam, I tell you.
And they have no financials, nothing about it, except for who started it.
And you're like, oh!
And they're all trying to be funny and contrite throughout the whole site.
In fact, if you go to look...
Oh, this really pissed me off.
Crowdrise.com.
So I go to the About section.
And they try to distract you right there.
It says...
Where was it?
They say you'd probably...
Why can't I find this now?
The Crowdrise Story, I think, is what it is.
They say you probably want to look at this picture of the sky instead of reading this small print about how they work.
Really?
Does that really work?
Like try to distract people with pictures of kittens?
A picture of a napkin, I'm sorry.
It's a picture of a napkin.
Ooh, look, a napkin!
Yeah, we know that you really would like to find something out about how this company works, because we're taking money, but maybe you'd just rather look at this picture of a napkin.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
But they don't really tell you anything about this company.
They've been around for a couple years, since 2009.
Edward Norton, Shauna Robertson, Robert and Jeffro Wolf.
Who are these people?
I'm looking at Robert and Jeffrey, actually, Wolf.
Jeffro.
It's Jeffro.
It really says Jeffrey here on this biography site.
A couple of joggers.
It says J-E-F-F-R-O, Jeffro.
Huh.
Well, it could be they misspelled it on their own scam website.
Seems unlikely.
Like, who, you know, who...
Crowd rise is a unique blend of online fundraising, crowdsourcing, social networking, contests, and other nice stuff.
So, you know, why is Sean Penn in on this?
And why are these celebrities, once again, trying to help Haiti when it's futile?
The money just gets stolen.
Nothing helps.
These poor people, we can't do anything for them.
They're screwed.
We've got all the Clinton money.
That's what I'd like to know.
We'll never find out.
We've tried to find out.
We don't know where that money went.
I'll look into this.
It's kind of interesting.
I sent you a copy of this, the thing that Obama's doing.
Oh, yeah.
I wrote it down.
Which I think is an illegal lottery.
I can read the email because you sent it to me.
I thought it was pretty funny.
I think it's an illegal lottery.
I think Obama's doing an illegal lottery.
He is making people pay money for tickets to sit with him at the table.
Friend, I just saw the seating chart for dinner with Barack and Michelle and I thought you should know about it.
The President and First Lady are on the left and right side of the table.
Where do you want to sit?
Think about it.
Then donate $3 or whatever you can to be automatically entered for a chance to win.
And then there's a URL. I've put a lot of dinners together for the President and Mrs.
Obama.
Sometimes they've been for foreign dignitaries and heads of state.
Sometimes they've included governor, artists, musicians, Hollywood bull crappers.
The seating can get pretty complicated, but I have to say this one was easy.
One table, six guests, and the president and the first lady.
So really, my job's done.
The only thing missing is who that guest will be.
Click here to give $3 or whatever you can to be automatically ended for a chance for you and a guest to have dinner with the president and first lady.
So they need to have a disclaimer that says no purchase necessary, don't they?
I think so, yeah.
And the funny thing is when you click there, it takes you to a website where the minimum donation is $10.
Really?
Yeah, I thought that was clever.
There's also a blank spot where you can put in, I guess, a penny or a dollar or two bucks.
But I don't see any evidence that you can just enter.
These lotteries, these types of things, have to be by law.
It says here, no purchase payment or contribution necessary to enter or win.
It says that?
It says it in the small print on that page.
Contribution will not improve chances of winning.
Void where prohibited.
So I guess you have to send in a letter.
They don't tell you.
Three winners will each receive the following prize packages up to $1,200 towards round-trip tickets to Haiti.
And a winner and a guest...
Wow.
Is that the value of the dinner?
Yes.
I don't know.
I don't know what the value is.
Well, you didn't do a good job here because they also have the official rules.
Now, they got it all in here.
Oh, I'm sorry.
No, that's okay.
I dropped the ball.
That's okay.
But then you click on the official rules and you get a sorry, the page you're looking for isn't here.
That's kind of funny.
That doesn't help.
That's kind of funny.
So, yeah.
No, that's...
Well, it's the craziest thing.
I mean, it's like the chances of winning this, I'm going to enter now that it's free.
Yeah, good luck on that.
Wouldn't it be funny if you won, though?
It'd be great.
Yeah.
You could sit there and do like that congressman.
Did you hear about this congressman?
I'd be wearing the No Agenda shirt.
Yeah, slave t-shirt.
Jim Sensenbrenner.
He's a Democrat.
He was at the airport, on his way home, no doubt, and he was overheard saying that after buying all their crap, a woman approached him and praised First Lady Michelle Obama.
He told the woman that Michelle should practice what she preaches.
She lectures us on eating right while she has a big butt herself.
And apparently, his spokeswoman has put a release out and says he will be in touch with the First Lady to apologize for his comments.
It's not like he's not telling the truth.
Yeah, but you know he ain't gonna be at the dinner.
Oops!
Big butt.
And then Lucy Napolitano sat down with Aaron, Aaron Burnett, the Council on Foreign Relations shill, and actually didn't sit down.
Aaron was taken out to the testing ground, the training ground for Homeland Security, where they're shooting stuff up and blowing stuff up and showing off the Secret Service and a little exchange between the two during the sit-down portion of her visit.
If someone is willing to...
Kill themselves.
They're going to find a way to do it, right?
I mean, there's no way you can become foolproof.
Look, this is the Department of Homeland Security, not the Department of Guarantees.
The Department of Guarantees.
So I flew up here from Oakland.
Did you opt out?
Well, I didn't have to, and let me explain the situation, and then you can scratch your head over this one.
So Oakland Terminal 2 has, I think, two or three of the full-body scanners on the far ends.
If you look at the group, there's a full-body scanner, there's a full-body scanner, and then there is a magnetometer, magnetometer, full-body scanner, full-body scanner, with like one, two, three, four, five, six or seven rows of people going through, right?
So the two in the middle are just a magnetometer.
So I got in that line.
Of course you do, yeah.
And I went through.
But meanwhile, people are looking back and forth, and they're actually voluntarily going.
I mean, I'm thinking, why would anybody go to the full-body scanner?
This thing is dangerous, for all we know.
We have no idea.
You could just wander through the full-body, through the magnetometer.
So explain this to me.
What is going on?
What kind of insanity am I witnessing?
I think...
I think it's a sexual thing.
There is something about, you know, it's like, you know when you rub a dog's belly, it rolls over on its back and it puts its legs in the air and surrenders completely?
That's kind of what I always have to think of, maybe it's just my warped mind, but that's always what I have to think of when I see people go through and then they put their hands up facing flat.
You know, it's like, you're like a dog.
But I think it's a sexual thing where there's some Pavlovian response where when you do that, it makes your tummy feel good or something.
Sure.
The radiation.
Seriously, though.
It's got to be.
And these people, I mean, I don't know.
Maybe they're just not rational.
Maybe they are the true zombies.
Maybe that's just it.
We're in zombie land.
I think it's funny that they put the two non-scanner things in the middle, and so if you wanted to, you can go through those.
Instead of creating a big hassle for everybody, because they know some people aren't going to go through this.
And by the way, it takes a long time, because you go through that, they scan you, then you have to stand on the yellow footprints while they approve your photo.
Yeah, it takes longer than he wants.
Yeah, much longer.
I know.
I just found the whole thing kind of almost surreal.
Yeah.
Well, while we're on that, this is a...
I'll shuttle through this.
There was some amazing information in this.
This is a guy who crossed over from the Canadian border, and he was going shopping to the mall with his wife, and he was going to the Niagara Falls Mall.
So, you know, I think a lot of people probably do this.
They cross over this border.
And he gets stopped by Border Patrol and questioned.
And I'll play the first bit and then we'll shuttle ahead because the big payoff comes at the end.
The whole thing, by the way, is a YouTube video.
It's about 10 minutes long.
And it just, I mean, his wife gets wind up, winds up getting handcuffed.
I mean, but he's recording the whole time.
I don't know what kind of device he had, but just listen to how it starts, how we welcome our friendly Canadian neighbors to the United States.
Of what country are you citizens?
Which country am I citizens?
Canada.
Well, of what country are both of you citizens, is what I'm asking for.
Both of us are from Canada.
How do you two know each other?
We're married.
Where are you going tonight?
Fashion Etouette Mall.
We're what?
We're shopping.
We're at?
We're in, what is it, what's the address?
Niagara Falls.
Niagara Falls.
Which stores?
I don't know.
Does it matter?
We haven't set out our...
This has to be a joke.
This has to be a sketch.
No, I don't think so.
I think this is legit.
This guy's asking what stores?
What stores?
Oh, yeah.
It gets much worse.
How many douchebag is this guy?
We'll wait until you hear the rationale behind it.
So he says, which stores?
The guy's like, I don't know which stores.
And then he says, hand over your keys.
Set out our...
My keys?
Yes, your keys.
Right now.
Your keys.
10-22 to wing one.
Two off defense.
United States of America.
No, I understand, but I'm...
So if I ask you questions, I don't expect to get responses like, does it matter?
I expect to get the responses after the questions...
You asked me which store I'm going to.
Yeah, if you're...
I don't know!
I don't know which store I'm going to.
Be quiet.
Get out of the vehicle.
Okay.
Any weapons?
Any phones I get?
No!
No?
Leave them all in the car.
Leave those headphones in the car.
Okay.
All right.
Over this one.
Go that way.
For what reason?
Take a seat.
For what reason?
Take a seat.
Ridiculous.
I said, why do I have to sit down?
Take a seat.
Why do I have to sit down?
Take a seat.
By the way, advice to you is don't say anything, because this guy just digs himself in so incredibly deep, but he's right.
Okay.
Sure.
One Elm Drive, Mississauga.
Where are you trying to go to?
We're trying to go to the Fashion Outlet Mall in Niagara Falls, I believe.
The question that I was asked was, which store am I going to specifically?
I don't know.
My wife and I are just going to walk around the mall.
By the way, I think they're eating a baby in the background.
I don't know what's going on there.
And I was told to come and sit down.
I asked, what's the reason?
This gentleman right here kept yelling, sit down, sit down, sit down.
He wouldn't give me a reason.
What, if the officer tells you to do something?
Well, I need to know why.
Hold on a second.
Hold on a second, okay?
You're a Canadian citizen.
Yes, I am.
But I'm not going to obey orders if I don't understand the reason for them.
Ooh, that was not good.
If the officer tells you to come inside and sit down, you come inside and sit down.
Uh-huh.
So now they play a little bit of good cop, bad cop.
I'm going to shuttle ahead.
What a waste of the taxpayers' money to have these guys grilling this Canadian character.
Just wait until you hear the revelation, though.
In their country.
I'm not picking on you.
I'm just trying to interview you.
No, I don't think you are, but I think you're the first level person who was interviewing.
We ask very detailed and personal questions.
Okay.
Just so we can verify.
You say, okay, example, where are you going?
Going to my uncle's house.
Where does he live?
He lives in New York City.
Where?
Give me an address.
Give me a phone number because I might call your uncle and say, is your nephew coming down to see you today?
Uh-huh.
This is what we do.
Okay.
That's how detailed we get.
That's how Okay, I've been here for numerous times and never had those kind of questions.
It doesn't matter, okay?
Previous times don't matter, okay?
If the officer feels like he wants...
You want to say, I think your officer doesn't like me and just wants to use the bureaucracy as an excuse to...
Well, that's why I'm here!
That's why I'm here.
Okay, so now it's coming up.
John, how many terrorists, because of course this is all about terrorism, how many terrorists do you think come through the Canadian border on an annual basis?
Well, it must be tens of thousands from the way they're grilling this guy.
I'm trying to talk to you.
I understand.
I'm trying to talk to you too.
I'm not being disrespectful to you personally.
I think that there's something wrong with the process.
Anyway, go ahead.
Well, if you're upset with the process, there's nothing I can do for you.
I understand.
This is what we do.
How many times have you crossed within the last year?
Oh.
I don't know.
20 times?
No, not that many times.
Maybe less than 10.
Every once in a while, we're going to send you inside this office.
We're going to interview you.
We're going to search your car.
We're going to search your person.
Whatever we feel like the level of search we need to go to, that's what we're going to do.
Just to verify your story.
And people that say, yeah, I'm going shopping for the mall.
Sometimes people lie to us.
Okay, I understand.
And they say, you know what, and they go meet with somebody and they drop off a load of drugs or they drop off...
Do you honestly think I'm lying to you?
I don't...
See, listen.
Do you honestly think I'm lying to you?
Do I honestly think you're lying to me?
Yeah.
No.
Okay.
But unfortunately, in my line of work, I can't believe everybody.
Okay.
But we're talking about me right now.
Okay.
Here it comes.
Here it comes.
This guy getting in his face.
This is why he gets arrested, because he gets in his face.
He's really annoying the guy, but he's really good.
We're talking about me right now.
Can I finish?
Uh-huh.
If I believe everybody, I would never find anything.
I wouldn't find seizures.
I wouldn't find drugs.
How many terrorists do you find coming across the border?
You want to know what?
You'll be surprised.
Now he gets pissed off.
You'll be very surprised.
I would say three a day.
What?
Three a day!
And that's just that one border crossing?
Yes, three a day.
He finds three a day from Canada.
So this one guy at one border crossing finds three terrorists a day.
And we have how many?
Hundreds of border crossings.
He finds three a day?
Three a day.
That's the clip of the week.
Just finish it up.
I would say three a day.
Three terrorists.
A day.
From Canada.
That you don't know about.
Okay.
Do you think that we put every single possible terrorist in the newspaper?
No.
Yeah, I think you do put every possible terrorist on TV in the newspaper.
Yes, I do.
Absolutely, I do.
At the Lewiston Bridge?
I'm just curious.
And I'm not saying here at the Lewiston Bridge.
I'm saying in the Port of Buffalo.
Lewiston Rainbow and Peace Bridge.
I would say three a day.
Okay.
Sit down, Willie.
Sit down.
And then his wife gets arrested because she's getting manhandled.
It really goes downhill from there.
Three a day.
Hello, Canada.
Yes, Canada.
It's an amazing piece of audio.
Really is really, really good.
And I'm so sorry to all of our Canadian listeners.
But, you know, I also have to say that Canada, man, is a hotbed of terrorism up there.
Apparently.
We don't want those guys coming in, a bunch of terrorists.
Thousands and thousands.
Thousands.
At least almost three a day.
It's over a thousand coming across that one border.
That one spot every year, and there's hundreds of thousands of terrorists are being caught.
Canadian, and they're being caught.
They're filling up the jails.
They're putting them in jail.
What do they do after they catch them?
Do they release them?
Is it catch and release?
Is it like fishing?
I don't know.
You hear these guys, man.
You come through here.
Eventually, we're just going to search you.
Search your car, because you could be dropping on some drugs.
I'm going to check with your uncle.
Make sure that you're actually going shopping.
Oh, so embarrassing.
This is unprofessional.
Uh, really?
I think the head of the whole operation, which would be Napolitano, should be reprimanded.
Oh, wait a minute.
She's been reprimanded numerous times in front of Congress and nothing's changed.
Okay, never mind.
She should be excommunicated.
She should be excommunicated.
She's probably Catholic.
Just following up on with Canadians and vaccines, which is always one of my favorite topics, a team of researchers working out of the University of Western Ontario in London, Ontario, which is where I think that's also a hotbed of terrorism, have received approval from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration have received approval from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to begin clinical trials of an HIV vaccine on humans.
Yay!
Yay!
AIDS is dead.
But the way they're doing this, and I don't understand exactly how it works.
I mean, I know a little bit about vaccinations.
Apparently, the way a vaccination works is you put in a bit of the virus, and then someone builds up immunity against this virus.
Is that how it works?
Well, you don't put the virus in them.
You put in attenuated or a dead virus.
Oh, it is a dead virus.
You can put in the dead virus.
That's how it works?
You put in something where the body says, oh, what's this doing here?
Let's make them immune to it.
But it's already not going to do anything.
Although this does happen, the live virus gets in there and then everybody gets sick from the shots.
So they say that they have produced a special version of this virus, synthesized it, so they've basically created the AIDS virus.
Or HIV, I should say.
It's housed at special biosafety level 3 laboratories.
Yeah, we know how good those are.
So they create the live virus.
They synthesize it.
They can create this thing.
And then it's killed and genetically modified to become harmless.
And then they're going to inject people with it.
But it's not a cure, so I guess...
How do you test this?
How is this not a cure?
What good is it?
Well, it's not a cure.
It's a vaccine.
A vaccine is not a cure.
A vaccine is a preventative cure.
It's a preventative measure.
So how do you test this on humans?
You inject them with the vaccine and then you give them AIDS? I mean, how does that work?
That's the problem.
I think what they're trying to...
I don't know.
You know, they think that they can shoot up people with some sort of a...
I guess a magic bullet that would, even if they have AIDS, it would kill it off.
But notice it's genetically modified.
There's a lot of stuff in this report that is very concerning.
Meanwhile, remember we talked about at Erasmus University in Rotterdam, they were creating the H1... No, the H... The bird flu.
No, the...
Yeah, the real bird flu.
H151, is that it?
H15... H-N... The bird flew.
Yeah, let me look it up.
I think it's H1N1. No, no, no.
That's the swine flu.
I thought it was H2N1. Maybe it's H4N1. It's H151, I think.
Or HN... It's R2D2. Anyway, so they've created this experiment and now they're going to publish it, but now the United States is saying, you cannot publish that.
You cannot publish the work H5N1. There you go.
H5N1. You cannot publicly let people know how you create this bird flu.
And this is a big flap in the scientific community.
And here's a chief scientist on the BBC talking about how only legitimate scientists can have this formula.
This report disappears to be censorship of important scientific findings.
No, there's a delicate balance that the people who would have a need to know, legitimate scientists, legitimate universities and medical centers, public health officials, will definitely have access to these data.
It was an impartial National Science Advisory Board for Biosecurity that made these recommendations, so it isn't as if The information, the details will not be available to anyone.
It will be available to the people who have a need to know, such as the health officials in the countries in which this disease is endemic.
I don't like this at all.
I don't like how this sounds.
I don't like it.
They've created this virus.
It's going to be available.
They're going to give it to other need-to-know scientists and legitimate guys.
Ugh!
I think we're looking at an outbreak pretty soon.
I'm with you on this one.
I'm not liking that at all.
Normally no, but this time yes.
And just in time to save his Congressional Medal of Honor, Dakota Meyer has dropped his lawsuit against BAE Systems, so I guess they got to him finally.
Yeah, and that's not the Airbus people.
This is a different operation.
This is a British air...
Right.
He accused them of selling night vision scopes to Pakistan, and so now they've reached a closure.
So he dropped a suit, and so now all of a sudden his Medal of Honor's okay.
Of course.
You're not going to hear a single thing about that.
That's how it works.
That is how it works.
I mean, that's really disgusting what they did.
It was probably the most disgusting story of the year.
Yeah, it was really, really bad.
Probably not, but it was up there.
And then a lot of people wanted me to analyze the plane crash of these two bankers and the guy's family and the dog, apparently.
I don't really have an analysis for anyone because there's no information.
I mean, could it have been icing?
Yeah.
I mean, it seems like the plane stalled or whatever.
The ultimate reason for the crash is a wing broke off.
When a wing breaks off, that's pretty much it.
These Cicada TBM-700 airplanes have de-icing.
I know that.
I have heard personally that their engines are not all that reliable.
I've heard a lot of engines quitting on final approach.
But this happened at 17,000 feet.
Now, the only thing I did look up for you is this banker was an executive at Greenhill& Co.
And I will say, if you look at what they've done, including the Northern Rock deal, U.S. Department of Energy deals, $35.9 billion energy loan portfolio,
it is possible that That there's more stuff coming out about more Solyndra-like things and more taxpayer money being stolen by Obama insiders and congressional and senatorial insiders.
It's possible the guy knew too much.
But there's no evidence otherwise, and it's very, very hard without an NTSB report to even start to think about what happened to this aircraft.
But it is very unfortunate, of course, or as we call it in aviation, a day wrecker.
It's a weird accident.
Yeah, well, we'll keep an eye on it if anything shows up that we can talk about.
Otherwise, it's just rank speculation.
That's why I'm saying it.
But looking at what this Green Hill& Partners has done, they are in a lot of deals, and they're advisors on these deals.
So...
It takes 6 to 12 months as the NTSB. Oh yeah, it takes forever.
We're still waiting for details on 9-11.
It takes forever with those guys.
And then, oops, didn't mean to hit that one.
Nice to see that Siemens has hired Stanley McChrystal as a supervisor.
Oh, how nice.
Do you mean as a board member?
No, supervisory role, whatever that means.
So he's going to actually have a real job.
Yeah, he will chair a board overseeing a newly created unit aimed at securing more and bigger contracts with the federal government.
Pay off!
Siemens?
Yeah.
The German company?
Yes.
Wow.
Pay off.
Yeah, something.
All right, everybody.
We really appreciate the love we've seen once again from people supporting this program.
And remember, we have the Clip Show coming up on Sunday, so that'll be fun to listen to.
I want to miss everybody a Merry Christmas, and we do that on the show, too.
Yeah, that's a real holiday.
Yeah, it's an actual federal holiday.
Actual holiday, and there's some actual history behind it.
And we'll be back before the new year, right, Joe?
Yes, we'll be back next Thursday to finish off the year with maybe a look back.
And then we start the new year next Sunday.
Not this coming Sunday, but the Sunday after.
We're going to do a show on New Year's.
And it will be the first show of the year on the first day of the year.
We'll probably look forward to seeing what we think is going to happen over the course of 2012.
Right up to the end.
We have less than a year to go, everybody.
Yeah.
Also, make sure you check out the show notes at 367.nashownotes.com.
There's a couple of good PDFs in there regarding Fast and Furious with Eric Holder and his involvement with the Oklahoma City bombing and the cover-up of the stifling of the whistleblowers.
All of the clips and stuff that we played on today's show, you'll find in, oh, lo and behold, clips and stuff.
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