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366: Fools & Knaves
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Well, you haven't had anything bad happen, right?
Right.
The rock must be working.
Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
It's Sunday, December 18, 2011.
Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 366.
This is no agenda.
Reading 900 pages of the National Defense Authorization Act, so you don't have to here in Austin, Texas, the capital of the Lone Star State.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where we're headed toward the winter solstice, I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
I'm going to get me a recorder.
Okay.
Recorders are not expensive.
No.
Are slide whistles an expensive instrument?
Is that what you're saying?
Well, this one is not cheap.
This is the professional metal one that's used in symphony orchestras.
No expense spared, ladies and gentlemen.
On the production of this show, we have a symphony orchestra slide whistle.
But you can get a cheap plastic one for about five bucks.
Yeah, but that's no good.
Now, as we were saying just before we started the show, I was listening to Fool on the Hill from the Beatles, and it features a recorder, and actually it's like, wow, you know, it makes such a great song with such a dumb instrument.
I was thinking, John, you know, he's so skilled on the slide whistle, he could have been the fifth Beatle, easily.
Absolutely.
Maybe you are the fifth Beatle, I don't know, it could be.
It's been a while since I've seen you.
So, in the morning to you, Adam Curry, and hello to all ships at sea and feet in the air and boots on the ground.
Yeah, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
Welcome to the best podcast in the universe, and in the morning to all of our human resources of all ages, shapes, sizes, and creed in colors and religions who have showed up in the chatroom at noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net.
Once again, we have a quorum.
Exciting news here today, as on the 25th of December, We have a surprise for all of you.
What?
Having a baby?
No, I'll say we, but you've actually done an incredible amount of work and put together the infamous clip show that you've been working on for three years.
All I have to do is try to listen to the whole thing.
There's a couple of repetitious things I've got to get out of there.
I'm going to do that today, and then I've got to drop in a couple of...
The one thing I haven't done...
Which I'll do at the end because this is like overlay.
You know, you got your basic clip show and then you overlay little things.
You insert.
Moments that break it up and pace it a little bit.
And the one thing I have not done, which I need to do, and you probably should send me a raw copy of it, is that there's probably about three moments within the entire thing, which is about two hours long, of being able to drop in douchebag.
So I haven't done that.
Okay.
I'll send you a douchebag.
So I go through it, and then I say, uh-oh, geez, there's a spot, and then I'll just insert douchebag into it.
Well, we have the entire archive of all of our jingles available online.
If you go to nashownotes.com and you click in, I think there's a thing that says jingles.
If not, I'll make sure I'll send you the link.
It's there.
It's there.
So, yeah, knowing that the news would be lame, nothing's happening.
Even terrorists and douchebags take a break around this time of year.
So there's just not a lot of news.
I decided, since everyone was all so crazy about the National Defense Authorization Act, big debates going on.
Now the House version, which is...
So we had Senate version 1867.
Now we have House version 1540.
And I was very interested because I read the debate report.
And, you know, there's half of the people saying, well, you know, the president can still pick anybody up, call him an enemy, excuse me, a belligerent, it's like an unequal, what's the word exactly?
An unequal belligerent?
I'll have to look it up.
I have it here.
And then call you an enemy combatant.
And then others would say, no, but it says right here, it says this will have no effect on citizens of the United States of America.
And just back and forth and back and forth.
Except it will.
Yeah, of course.
Well, it comes down to legalese.
And you have to be a lawyer, which it seems everybody is these days.
Everybody who's making up rules and stuff in Washington are all lawyers.
So I figured I'd go and take a look at the exact language of the bill that passed the House.
And then I said, you know what?
Screw it.
It's only 908 pages.
I said, why don't I just read through it and see if there's anything else funny in there?
Because, you know, what a perfect opportunity, right?
If you and I were consulting anyone on the Hill, we'd say, hey, man, they're all distracted over this stupid thing, like picking up citizens.
Who gives a crap about that?
Let's slip something in.
This is a great opportunity.
We can put some cool stuff in here and no one will see.
So you want to run through it real quick?
I am absolutely fascinated already because I know that the only reason, just to kind of deconstruct the show, the only reason you would bring this up in the first place, especially with this long intro you just gave, is because you found something.
Well, there's a number of things.
There's some just curious, some things that are like, oh, and some real big clues that are, I think, very important to us.
First of all, this is like $660 billion of, whose money is that again?
Of squandered taxpayer money?
Yeah, that's it.
Of our dough.
Of our dough that is going to be spent.
And they always say, like, oh, if you don't vote for this, you're not supporting the troops.
Wait a minute.
The troops just left.
We'll get into that later, believe me.
$142 billion is all that's really being spent on the troops, which to me seems like, what is that, less than 20%?
No, that's still a lot.
It's a lot of money, and no doubt about it.
And what's fascinating is to see all these, because that's where really the money goes, is towards the bases.
And let me tell you, man, Germany either has a lot to worry about or nothing to worry about.
We're spending, I think, like $80 billion just on German bases alone.
Right.
And that money, where does that money end up going?
To contractors, to build buildings and latrines.
And most of it ends up in Germany, though.
Yeah, of course.
Of course.
So, essentially, we're giving Germany $80 billion.
This is a country that is, like, leading the EU in an effort to destroy us.
And also, the number one country insofar as a machine of commerce, Germany.
Is concerned, taking over the EU, and we're giving them $80 billion of our taxpayers' money, essentially.
Give or take, a couple billion.
Yeah.
So, you know, and by the way, Washington State is getting the lion's share of the base money.
A lot of money.
Washington State.
You guys must have some operations up there.
There's a bunch of weird...
There's a lot of black helicopter operations up in Washington, if you don't know why.
They must have a naval...
The Navy is getting a lot of money for Washington State.
Oh, there's a big Navy submarine base.
Oh, yeah.
They're doing underwater submarine bases.
Like underwater docking stations and stuff.
That can't be cheap.
Can't be cheap.
Who's the James Bond running his department?
Yeah, exactly.
Octopussy.
I'm telling you, it's in here.
I didn't even mark that one up.
I was like, of course they're building underwater bases in Washington.
Why not?
Yeah, underwater, so they dock underwater.
Yeah, it's cool.
Here's some interesting things that came up with.
Section 920B, Article 120B, Rape and Sexual Assault of a Child.
Now, this is the National Defense Authorization Act.
There's a lot of rules and regulation changes and repeal of reporting and stuff.
This caught my eye.
Rape of a child.
Any person subject to this chapter...
This is if you rape a child.
I don't know why we need to have this in the Defense Authorization Act, but okay.
What?
Yes.
You sure you were reading the right bill?
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
So, you'll be guilty of rape of a child if you commit a sexual act upon a child who has not attained the age of 12 years.
Is that really the limit in the military?
In the military, so after 12, you're good to go.
Yeah.
I swear to God, it commits a sexual act upon a child who has not attained the age 12 years or commits a sexual act upon a child who has attained the age 12 years by using force against any person, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But then it says...
Later on, in a prosecution under this section, it needs not be proven that the accused knew that the other person engaging in the sexual act or lewd act had not attained the age of 16.
So in a way they're saying it's 16, but really, if the kid's over 12, it's okay.
It's very, very strange.
That's very, very strange that would be in there.
How come this hasn't been brought up by anybody?
Dude, I actually, halfway through this, I passed out.
And I woke up.
Mickey had to wake me up yesterday.
He said, you still have 400 pages left.
You're out.
This happens to me when sometimes I'm watching C-SPAN, trying to find a clip like yesterday night.
I'm just done.
Exactly.
And then I wake up and say, oh my god, this is like a half hour into it.
What the heck?
Rewind, rewind.
It is so boring.
Some interesting provisions in here.
Review to identify interference with national security global positioning system receivers by commercial communication services.
Well, we know what that's about.
That's the...
What is that?
Lightning strike?
Light beam?
What is that?
Lightsaber?
What is that company called?
Yeah, Light Squared.
Light Squared, exactly.
So there's a whole...
Apparently...
What is it?
The LTE? Yeah.
That they're employing as steps all over GPS. So they put that in the bill.
Oh yeah, to determine if commercial communication services are causing or will cause widespread or harmful interference with national security global positioning system receivers.
So yeah, short, forget about it.
It's over.
Absolutely over.
Now here's some interesting data.
Non-governmental organizations and academic institutions secretary may authorize the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency to exchange or furnish mapping, charting, and geodetic data, supplies, and services relating to areas outside the United States to non-governmental organizations or an academic institution engaged in geospatial information research or production of such areas pursuant to an agreement for the production of exchange of such data.
George Clooney.
Exactly.
George got his data.
That's perfect.
Absolutely.
Just a side note, I guess there's going to be an API everyone can play with.
The Ozone Widget Framework shall be released, which is a mechanism for internet publication of information for development of analysis tools and applications for the Ozone.
The Ozone Widget Framework.
That's just a little fun thing to play with.
And what struck me is that, you know, if you were talking about...
The internet and security.
What would you call that general area if you were writing a bill like this?
Yeah, I wouldn't call it internet security.
I'd call it something else.
Internet protection.
They call it cyberspace.
Oh, they call it cyberspace.
Which I think is like, hello, 1980s calling.
Well, not only that, but it's like from science fiction, too.
Cyberspace.
It's all cyberspace.
Put that echo back on the show.
Cyberspace.
Cyberspace.
Then, of course, we know that the Pentagon has to be audited.
So the audit readiness of financial statements of the Department of Defense.
Then they go section blah, blah, blah.
Okay, they're going to amend the previous NDAA by inserting the following line, that a complete and validated full statement of the budget resources is ready by not later than September 30th, 2014, after validated as ready for audit by not later than September 30th, 2017.
So they've moved the audit date...
It was 2016, I believe.
Well, here they've changed it from 2014 to 2017.
I thought it was 2016 already.
I can just tell you what I'm reading.
So they moved it up to 2017.
So in other words, we still won't know where the money's going.
The biggest budget line item, huge billions of dollars, go into the sinkhole, and we still don't know anything about how it's used or...
No, and we won't.
And they can't seem to audit it until 2017.
Which means these guys are already living in Paraguay right now.
They're insane is what they are.
They're insane.
And all they'll do is next year they'll move it up to 19.
It's never going to get audited, obviously.
There's a five-year extension and modification of authority of Department of Defense to provide additional support for counter-drug activities of other governmental agencies and governments.
So we are actually giving money to other countries.
I have here that moved up from $75 million to $100 million to counter-drug operations in the government of Benin, Cap Verde, the Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Ivory Coast, Jamaica, Liberia, Mauritania.
Nicaragua, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, and Togo.
We're just giving them some money.
Which is always nice.
Just take my money.
And we'll continue to support that for another five years.
Then we have the infamous Section 1031, The Detainee Matters.
This is the affirmation of authority of the Armed Forces of the United States to detain covered persons pursuant to the authorization for use of military force.
Read with me, John, and just help me.
I know you've been a lawyer for many years.
In general.
Whenever they say in general, it's like, okay, bullshit.
Right?
In general.
What does that mean, in general?
Just kind of usually?
Yeah, I guess usually would be a better word.
Congress affirms that the authority of the President to use all necessary and appropriate force pursuant to the authorization for use of military force, that's Public Law 10740, includes the authority for the armed forces of the United States to detain covered persons, as defined in subsection B... Pending disposition under the law of war.
Covered persons.
A covered person under this section is any person as follows.
A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for the attacks.
Two.
A person who was part of or substantially supported Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act...
Get off my lawn!
Or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.
Now that is the covered persons.
And then...
And that's 1031.
What everyone's been talking about is 1032...
Which is about the custody.
So there's two, this is the tricky part, the way I see it.
And there's also 1036.
Everyone say, oh, 1032, it says here, covered persons, the requirement of paragraph 1 shall apply to any person whose detention is authorized under section 1031.
Then it says, where is it?
The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.
But that doesn't...
That's only for covered persons.
This is where the law gets tricky and where I don't trust it.
And I think I'm probably right in not trusting it.
First they say, if you're belligerent, then we can call you a terrorist.
But then everyone's arguing about the indefinite detention.
But they can still pick you up and put a black bag over your head and get rid of you.
If they think you're belligerent and may have supported Al-Qaeda or anything else.
Yeah, but they can do that now.
Yes, that is, unfortunately, is absolutely true.
Let me go to 1036.
That's the procedures.
And this is how they determine if you're belligerent.
Okay.
The procedures required with this section shall provide for the following in the case of any unprivileged enemy belligerent.
That's the word.
Unprivileged enemy belligerent who will be held in long-term detention.
A military judge shall preside at proceedings for the determination of status of an unprivileged enemy belligerent.
What's a privileged enemy belligerent?
CIA. Oh, okay, right.
Alawaki.
Oh, yeah, exactly.
So, you know, then there's a whole bunch of stuff that shows that Guantanamo Bay will not be shutting down because essentially we're going to be moving anyway.
You know, there's a whole bunch of...
That's in there?
Oh, yeah.
No, it says, you know...
Oh, hold on a second.
Let me get this straight.
Didn't Obama run on the promise?
Yeah, we'll close down Gitmo.
Overt promise that the first thing he's going to do when he gets...
Don't you have that clip?
The first thing he's going to do when he gets in office is shut down Gitmo?
Wasn't that like one of his main things that got everyone to vote for him?
Because people who didn't like this whole Gitmo idea, they were voting for him specifically because of that and the fact he was going to get us out of the war immediately.
Let's see.
I have a clip here in the Evergreens called Obama Promises.
I'll make our government open and transparent so that anyone can ensure that our business is the people's business.
Justice Louis Brandeis once said, sunlight is the greatest disinfectant.
And as president, I'm going to make it impossible for congressmen or lobbyists to slip cork barrel projects or corporate welfare into laws when no one's looking, because when I'm president, meetings where laws are written will be more open to the public, no more secrecy.
That's a commitment I make to you as president.
Okay.
All right.
No more seconds.
Well, let's just stop on that for a second because there's a little provision here.
Section 1044, treatment under Freedom of Information Act of Certain Sensitive National Security Information.
In general, the Secretary of Defense may exempt certain Department of Defense information from disclosure under Section 552 of Title V, United States Code, upon a written determination that, hey, the information is Department of Defense Critical Infrastructure Security Information, Or, the public interest in disclosure of such information does not outweigh the government's interest in withholding such information from the public.
So let me get this straight.
So, this will be the most transparent government.
However, if the Secretary of Defense determines that the public interest in disclosure of such information requested does not outweigh the government's interest in withholding such information from the public, they won't disclose it.
What kind of bull crap is that?
It's what it is.
It's right there in this bill.
It's amazing.
And when there's a bill that ends up on my desk as president, you, the public, will have five days to look online.
Oh, gee!
That's never happened.
I think they'd already passed it by the time this was released online.
Find out what's in it before I sign it.
Right.
Okay.
Alright.
No, that's good.
We have a couple days before he signs it.
So that you know what your government's doing.
Yeah, we know.
When there are meetings between lobbyists and a government agency, we'll put as many of those meetings as possible online.
He didn't lie.
As many as possible.
For every American to watch.
When there's a tax bill being debated in Congress, you will know the names of the corporations that would benefit and how much money they would get.
And we will put every corporate tax break and every pork barrel project online for every American to see.
You will know who asked for them, and you can decide whether your representative is actually representing you.
Nah, so that doesn't have the Gitmo thing in there.
These were good, too.
Let's just move on to the document, because I've got some ground to cover.
Authority for assignment of civilian employees of the Department of Defense as advisors to foreign ministries of defense and international peace and security organizations.
So we can basically send soldiers or civilians, which is another word for spooks.
Whenever you read civilian in the Pentagon, that's a spy.
So this is essentially an approval here to send spies to go work as advisors to foreign ministries of defense and international peace and security organizations, which is probably a good thing.
It probably is a good thing.
Keep an eye on these guys.
Here we go.
They will commission a study on the recruitment, retention, and development of cyberspace experts.
Ooh.
Technology.
No, experts.
Yeah, no, it's cyberspace experts.
In this section, the term cyberspace operations personnel refers to members of the armed forces and civilian employees of the Department of Defense involved with the operations and maintenance of computer network connected to global information grid.
That's the Defense Department's CIA. That's that other group.
As well as offensive, defensive, and exploitation functions of such a network.
Hello.
Wow!
Yeah.
So they can go out and mess stuff up.
This, let's see, no later than April 15th.
By the way, this is all marked up and in the show notes at 366.nashownotes.com.
You can just, in the PDF, you can click ahead to all the pieces that I've highlighted for you so you can read it for yourself.
By April, the Secretary of Commerce shall submit to Congress a report setting forth the results of a comprehensive review of current restrictions on the resolution of electro-optical imagery collected from satellites that commercial companies may sell or disseminate.
The report shall include such recommendations for legislative or administrative action.
So apparently, and I'm just paraphrasing because I didn't read through this whole piece, current and anticipated deployments of satellites built in foreign countries are able to collect imagery at a resolution greater than 0.5 meters.
And they don't like that.
They don't want them selling it to Google and Bing.
0.5 meters.
That's like a foot and a half.
Yeah.
That's some good-ass resolution right there.
Yeah.
Yeah, at least when it says an address, it's going to be the address.
Yeah, who needs a drone?
Seriously.
Oh, speaking of which, report on integration of unmanned aerial systems into the national, let me repeat, national airspace system.
Here we go.
It's in the bill?
It's in the bill.
Huh.
So this is requiring a report, no later than 90 days after the enactment of the Act, that sets forth the following.
One, a description and assessment of the rate of progress in integrating unmanned aircraft systems into the national airspace system.
Did we not predict this, John?
Oh, yeah.
Worse, too, an assessment of...
Says worse in there?
Yeah.
Worse.
Hey, if you thought we're screwing them now, check this out.
An assessment of the potential for one or more pilot program or programs on such integration at certain test ranges to increase that rate of progress.
So they're stepping it up.
They gotta get the drones out of here.
Yeah.
There's gonna be drones overhead.
The country's going to be completely droned.
Oh, and this was a very important one.
So, you know, there's a lot of things they change here, as I said.
So this is the Section 1081.
Redesignation of Psychological Operations, which is known as PSYOPs.
PSYOPs.
So essentially...
They're going to change the name.
They're going to change the name.
In Title X of the United States Code, they list the departments that we have, and one of them is Psychological Operations, PSYOPs.
This will be now changed...
Here it is.
Amending by striking psychological operations and inserting military information support operations.
What?
Yeah.
Here's what happened.
They're like, man, everyone's talking about PSYOPs.
They're so on to us.
What are we going to do?
What do those Blackwater guys do?
Change the name.
Yeah, let's just change the name.
Instead of PSYOPs, psychological operations, let's call it military information support systems.
Operation, sorry, MISO. Military Information Support Operations.
This is the stuff, you know, if you don't read this, then, you know, you'd like military information, whatever, you know, you wouldn't think about it, but that is now going to be the new word for PSYOPs.
You with me?
Good one.
Yeah.
That's a ten-point find.
There's a couple more.
And miso, by the way, is a nice term because it refers to a very nice soup that you get in a Japanese restaurant.
It's a very nice soup.
So the commanders have a little slush fund.
It's the emergency response program.
$400 million may be used by the Secretary of Defense to provide funds for the commander's emergency response program in Afghanistan.
That's always handy.
And this is interesting.
Authority to accept contributions.
What?
Listen, this is how the drug money flows.
I found this right in the bill.
The Secretary of Defense may accept cash contributions from any person, foreign government, or international organization for the purposes specified in subsection A, that's the one I just mentioned, Funds received by the Secretary may be credited to the operation and maintenance account from which the funds are made available to carry out the authority in subsection A. It may be used for such purposes until expended in addition to the funds specified in that subsection.
Oh, yeah.
That's exactly what it is for.
This is drug money.
So, basically, anyone can go up to any commander in a theater of war and say...
Hey gringo, here's your cut.
Here's your money.
Isn't that crazy?
They're just legalizing it.
All we do is take our cut.
It was a donation.
It's donating.
Just click on the button.
Isn't that amazing?
It's so brazen.
It's not brazen when nobody notices.
They snuck it in, and you found it, and we just read it, and nobody cares.
Still nobody cares.
I care.
So all of a sudden, it's a charity we're running here at the Defense Department.
I care.
I really do care.
It's not okay.
You want more?
If it helps to lessen the impact on the American taxpayer, I think it's okay.
Okay, right.
Although it doesn't.
You protect the poppies, here's your cut.
And you can use that to continue to protect the poppies or give some guns to somebody else.
Whatever you want to do with it, it's good.
Some guns to Mexico, right?
Yeah, it's all good.
Conditional extension and modification of authority to build the capacity of counterterrorism forces in Yemen.
So even though we're not at war with them, we will be building a base in Yemen.
It's about time.
Global Security Contingency Fund.
Amounts in the fund shall be available to either...
Oh, this is Hillary's provision.
$300 million established on the books of the Treasury of the United States and account to be known as, quote, the Global Security Contingency Fund.
Here's what she was fighting for.
This is her kitty, if you will.
The pussy's kitty.
Amounts in the fund shall be available to either the Secretary of State or the Secretary of Defense, notwithstanding any other provision of law, to provide assistance to countries designated by the Secretary of State with the concurrence of the Secretary of Defense for purposes of this section as follows.
So that is basically Hillary's funny money.
So she can go hand out to any foreign country or military forces, maritime security, internal security, counterterrorism operations, as well as government agencies responsible such forces to conduct border, maritime security, internal defense, counterterrorism operations, blah-de-blah-de-blah-de-blah.
It's $300 million for Hillary.
So I'm sure she's celebrating the holidays.
She's got her dough.
Just to power through this...
A couple other...
Oh, that's $300 million.
Authority to build the capacity of certain counterterrorism forces of East African countries.
So we can put these on the list.
Djibouti.
I don't even know where that is.
Djibouti?
Djibouti.
Hey, look at that.
How do you spell that?
Look at the Djibouti on that bitch.
They keep changing it.
How do you spell that?
Delta, Juliet, India, Bravo, Oscar, Uniform, Tango, India.
Djibouti.
Frank Jabroni and his sister Djibouti.
Ethiopia and Kenya, so we'll be building bases there.
Also enhancing national military forces participating in the African Union mission in Somalia.
So you can just put these on the list.
Djibouti is this little, little bitty place that is south of Somalia.
Oh, we talked about these guys before.
This is that little country where Somalia kind of pinches off the water.
Wait a minute.
Isn't this where AFRICOM's headquarters are going to be in Djibouti?
It's a possibility.
Djibouti is a phony baloney operation.
It's a good name, Djibouti.
I'm Frank Jabroni from Djibouti.
Supportive forces participating in operations to disarm the Lord's Resistance Army.
30 million bucks for that.
I'm sorry, 35 million bucks.
That's good.
That's good.
For the incredibly important guys.
Winning extension on to transfer defense articles provide defense...
I don't know why I highlighted that one.
Oh yes, Pakistan.
$1.6 billion to Pakistan for helping us out.
I'm sorry, it was 1.6.
We are striking that and inserting $1.75 billion to Pakistan.
You'd think the news would report on that one.
War over in Iraq?
Authority to support operations and activities of the Office of Security Cooperation in Iraq.
Now this is an interesting little office.
The Office of Security Cooperation.
The Secretary may provide funds on this authority.
$524 million for the war that is over.
So I guess that indirectly also goes to Hillary's gang for safeguarding the embassy over there.
Then there's a report due on progress of the African Union in operationalizing the African Standby Force.
Be on the lookout for those terms.
The African Standby Force.
Whatever the hell that is.
There's a whole long chapter about finding out about the manpads originating from Libya.
You know, it's like, how many were there?
Who has them?
Where'd they go?
So they know nothing about that.
And it's funny, because I was just reading in the news today that good old Hillary, I'm sorry, Lucifer Clippity Clop Clinton, is going to go visit Georgia, the Republic of Georgia, with that crazy, Thai-eaten psychopath, Sakasvili.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, no wonder, because she's got to finalize the deal.
We're going to be selling weapons to Georgia, defense cooperation with the Republic of Georgia, no later than 90 days, which coincides nicely with her trip.
After the date of the enactment of this act, the president shall develop and submit to congressional defense to support the government of the Republic of Georgia in providing for the defense of its government people and sovereign territory, consistent with the continuing commitment to the government of the Republic of Georgia, Provide for the sale by the United States of defense articles and services in support of the efforts of the government.
They're not a member of NATO. Yet.
Are they?
No, I don't think so.
But it's an insult to the Russians.
It's a huge insult.
So we are now allowed to sell.
So Hillary, I guess, is going to do the deal.
They're going to go just sell, sell.
And then Iran, about the financial sector of Iran, there's a whole paragraph in here.
Now, when you hear about these sanctions, you're like, oh man, these sanctions are, you know, we're screwing Iran.
Well, yeah and no.
The way the sanctions are put together, first of all, that sanctions don't actually start until 180 days after the enactment of the act, after the president signs it.
But then it's really only...
about the following for the purchasing and sale of petroleum and petroleum products but then it also says that the president will continue to determine based on reports whether the price and supply of petroleum and petroleum products produced in countries other than Iran is sufficient to permit purchasers of petroleum and petroleum products from Iran to reduce significantly in volume their purchases from Iran So it's all just a big,
it's bull crap.
Shell game.
Yeah, it's not even true.
You know, it's like, well, you know, we're going to force some really hard sanctions on them.
Yeah, it's just bookkeeping.
Yeah, it's totally just bookkeeping.
Then there's, you know, we continue in Afghanistan.
Oh, yes.
A few couple billion dollars here to include projects that facilitate private investment, mining sector development, industrial development, and other projects determined by the Secretary of Defense with the concurrence of the Secretary of State, Lucifer, as strengthening stability or providing strategic support to the counterinsurgency campaign in Afghanistan.
Please, nigga.
Now you're really insulting me.
All they're doing is they're just making it possible for, you know, this is the economic hitman.
They're coming over right now.
Just go ahead.
We're going to support you.
We're going to support mining.
We're going to support everything.
Go ahead.
And here, I'll end it on this one.
Availability of funds for the Trans-Regional Web Initiative.
Why is all this stuff even in this field?
Here's your $18 million website, John.
Yeah, the Trans-Regional Web Initiative is a requirement for a range of website products and services to support the U.S. Special Operations Command in the global war on terrorism.
I'm reading the procurement.
Why don't I just start a little web development company?
Listen, the contractor shall develop, operate, and maintain a minimum of six websites in the directed languages and conceptual approaches approved by the government.
They shall develop, operate, and maintain websites tailored to influence foreign audiences per government-approved concept of operations.
We can do that.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh my goodness.
And probably better.
And that's going to be a huge contract.
What is it?
Is there any numbers attached to it?
No.
No, there's no number.
Let me see if there's something, if there's a pay table, because you've got to go look at the pay tables.
Well, the money will be released as long as the program appropriately defines its target audience.
It's determined to be the most effective method to reach such target audience.
I feel a slideshow pitch coming up, John.
It's the most cost-effective means of reaching such audience and includes measurement mechanisms to ensure such target audience is being reached.
Dude, we got Google Analytics.
We can show, alright?
We've got geo-targeting.
We've ensured that if you're in the southern region of Afghanistan, you're going to get your local dialect.
And we'll serve up some banners to offset some of your costs.
Exactly.
Anyway, if you'd like to read all of the markup, it's in the show notes at 366.nashownotes.com.
And I hope you enjoyed this little section of the show because I am pretty confident there's no other place in the universe where you will receive any type of analysis of what has actually been passed.
And please have a look down at the bottom of the document.
Just look at the big numbers.
You can see that there's a lot of money going into UAVs, a lot of drone money, the ammo section is hilarious.
There's just tons of great stuff to see where your money is going, which we don't actually have in the first place.
Right.
Well, it's borrowed money, and so it's actually the Chinese money that's going there.
So maybe there's something to that.
So I think we needed to, well, we should give you a round of applause.
We don't have that clip.
But I think we should thank some executive producers for helping you do that.
Showing their love.
Donation equals love.
Donating is loving.
Curiously, when you develop the research on that connection, you can discuss it, which we'll do, maybe later.
And it doesn't make any difference once that is established.
Boom.
Let's see.
Okay.
Let's start with Francine Hardaway.
Oh, Francine.
Dan Francine, sure.
You know she's a venture capitalist?
No, I didn't.
Seriously?
Yep.
No.
Yeah, I'm starting to do due diligence on our nights.
Really?
Just to make sure.
Wait a minute.
Don't tell me she's taking customer funds and donating it to the show.
Well, let's hope.
Can't just imagine.
So really, you're like doing Intel.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Well, you know, these producers of ours, you know, expect us to be thorough about everything.
Yeah, you're being thorough, that's for sure.
She's in Phoenix, $365, senior human resource cleaning out the PayPal account per instructions.
Which, by the way, is our instruction.
It's our instruction, indeed.
Taking karma for my angel investments in startups so I can exit from some of them in time to enjoy the wealth here for a carman.
Alright, now you know this only lasts for a week, so you better hurry up and see if you can...
Dump that stuff.
You've got karma.
Oh, that's very cool.
I didn't know that.
So she's an angel investor.
Yeah, and she runs a fund of some sort.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, that's so cool.
Well, thank you, Dame Francine.
For the Arizona rich people, Arizona is a stronghold of retired rich people and mobsters.
Guess which one Dame Francine is.
Well, she must be retired rich people because she doesn't look or sound like a mobster.
What, you spoke to her?
No, I've seen her.
I've gone to her website.
I've looked at her picture.
I know what she looks like.
Oh, is she hot?
She is totally hot.
Okay.
You go ahead with the next one.
I'm going to take a...
Alexander Dimitriati.
That's it.
Alexander Dimitriati in Oakland Gardens, New York, 33333.
Thank you very much.
Stephen Wittig in Eau Claire, Wisconsin, 32967.
I have a letter from him because this came in over the transom.
She's very cute.
Stephen Whitting?
Dame Francine.
I'm sorry.
Stephen Whitting writes, In the morning to you both, I'm standing in the Salt Lake City airport with my arms held out to my side and a severely obese and irritated TSA agent sliding his hands along my genitals.
I immediately think of you both.
This is maybe not a good thing, but okay.
Take that for what you will.
As a lazy American, I appreciate all the hours you spend watching C-SPAN, so I don't have to.
Speaking of which, I haven't heard that jingle in a while, which is not true.
That got me thinking to that...
Got me thinking that to ensure the talent of the best podcast in the universe, make sure it doesn't get outsourced to some foreign country, you're already too close for comfort.
I should stop being a douchebag and donate to the show.
Hell yeah.
So in computing value for value, I've decided to donate $3.33 for every show I've downloaded, netting a donation at 32967 for the episodes thus far.
I've only listened to about half or about a third of them, so otherwise I'll donate more.
If I listen to the rest someday, I'll...
Be sure to pay you based on the merit of their content.
Well, that means it's a lot of money.
Well, we're rich.
If you have time, my wife and I used up every last ounce of karma for our wedding day last year, and although nothing tragic has happened to us, yes, I'm feeling a bit off with...
With all these drones falling out of the sky and whatnot, anything could happen.
So if you'd be so kind to add a cup of karma to his...
Yeah, in fact, I'm going to do a special double shot for it.
If you see something, see something.
You've got karma.
A little extra TSA karma for you.
Then we have Jay Kramer in Minnesota Nuts.
Ha ha!
Okay.
255-55.
He also has a letter.
Thank you for the show.
About 222-222 for the show.
3-3-3-3-3 for a podcast license.
You're going to have to put them on the podcast license.
I don't need karma.
Life is just getting by good.
This is like a poem.
Everything is in lowercase and structured funny.
Maybe for all our combat veterans, but they need it forever.
John, you've done very well in the past, but just in case, my last name has a silent E. Kramer.
It looks like Kramer, but it's Kramer.
So we're handing out some karma here?
No, just throw some out there for the soldiers.
Hell yeah.
You've got karma.
Home for the holidays.
And then our associate executive producer for today's show will be Scott Morgan in Park Ridge, Illinois.
Oh, I know Scott.
Please credit Sky Siver, S-I-V-E-R, at SRM Services for tracking total contributions.
I don't know.
Please tell Adam to check his email for my invitation to take him and Mickey to the gun show.
A.K.A. the Church of the Second Amendment this weekend to feed the judge.
It's funny because I got his email.
I did reply to him.
He's like, hey Adam, welcome to Austin.
I'd like to invite you to come to our church.
This whole email, I'm like, oh man, how am I going to get out of this?
It's really sweet someone's inviting me to church, but that's not really for me.
And at the bottom it says, oh by the way, This church, you know, it only costs $5 in donation because that's the entry fee for the gun show.
It's our church of the Second Amendment.
I'm like, yeah.
But we're going to go next month.
It's every Thursday.
Yeah, it's like a photo swap meet we have.
Oh, yeah.
I can't wait.
Every month it comes up.
People trade guns and, you know, shoot in the air.
So that's our executive and associate executive producers for today's show, 366.
And remind people to go to dvorak.org slash na, channeldvorak.com slash na, noagendanation.com.
And you can also pick up the mugs that are being shipped out and also the new slave t-shirts.
And finally, noagendashow.com, there's a donation button you can click and help us out.
Did you see the pictures I tweeted that Miss Mickey took of the slave t-shirts?
Yeah.
What'd you think?
They're on that model that you bought.
Her Barbie.
I didn't buy it.
That's her thing.
This is a good-looking mannequin.
Yeah.
You didn't see the bald picture, though.
That was ominous.
Yeah, she got one when she took the wig off of it.
I look up my tweeter to find out more.
So some associative programming.
I know a lot of people walking around, and it's very hard not to just automatically, you know, in the back of your mind, be singing.
Dvorak.org.
Slash N-A Donating is loving.
That's my new thing.
So when you're singing that, you know, Dvorak.org Slash N-A Donating is loving.
A couple of PR initiatives.
I want to thank our producer here, Ludger, who is in Germany, Gibbonation Deutschland.
FightNetNeutrality.de is now pointing to NoAgendaShow.com.
And then, this is actually, I thought, very interesting, and this will be very good, because, you know, whenever you want to turn someone on to the show, you know, sometimes it may not be appropriate to say, you know, rickperrysucks.com or something like that.
So he's giving us a little mix-up here.
This is Sir Daniel.
He's given us Newt Can Blow Me, Blow.me, I'm sorry, Mitt Can Blow.me, and Perry Can Blow.me.
So those are all forwarding to noagendashow.com.
So if you say, hey, you should listen to the show, and if you know the person is like Auntie Newt Gingrich, you can just say, you can find it at newtcanblow.me.
I thought it was kind of good.
That's very creative.
I like it.
I like it too.
It'll be good short term.
And thanks to our executive producers today, Dame Francine, who was from Oakland Gardens?
That's Alexander...
Oh yeah, Alexander, yeah.
Yeah, Dimitriati.
Dimitriati.
Dimitriati, Stephen Whitting.
Whitting, Whitting.
Whitting, Jay Kramer, and our associate executive producer, Scott Morgan.
These, of course, are actual credits.
You can put them anywhere you wish, in your email signature, on your IMDB, if you have one.
We'll be more than happy to vouch for you.
If someone brings that into question, you can just say, oh yeah, don't make me call the best podcast in the universe, pal, because I will get them on the phone!
And you can always go out and propagate our formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
New Worlds Oh no!
Wear the T-shirt.
Shut up, slave.
All right.
Hey!
Alright.
Now that half the show is over.
Hey now.
I hate taking up that much time on those bills, but I think it's valuable.
I think it was interesting enough.
I mean, it's tedious, which is the problem, unless there's clips and you could have dropped in a few sound effect bombs.
Or I should have had the slide whistle going.
But the fact is, it's very interesting.
And these things all come back to bite us in the butt, and we can always refer back, well, we told you so.
What's funny, though, is I've discovered I have an ability to scroll through hundreds of pages, and my eye, it's like a neural networking thing.
My eye just goes, oops, stop, what's that?
Yeah, you do.
You have a knack.
It's funny that way.
Yeah, I let you do it, too.
Because I don't want to do it.
You're too busy sleeping on the job.
I mean, it's like, these things are just, I look at them and it's just, oh my god, this is horrible.
Yeah, but it's like no one looks at, like not a single reporter looks at these things.
I don't think the people who vote on them look at these things.
And the funny thing is, if you actually even went deeper, you know, spent even more time, you'd probably find even more weird crap.
It's a bottomless pit of weird crap.
You know, I finally got the annex to the executive order, the changes to the...
Oh, right, the thing you've been looking for for a while.
The court's marshal.
And I think, you know, and I said, you know, this could be totally related to the Bradley Manning trial.
And here's, you know, so there's basically two things that have changed.
You want me to do this now, or do we want to?
Yeah, do it.
Get it over with.
I think we should talk about Manning as well.
We've already lost him.
We've already lost the audience.
Everyone's all like, oh man, what are you talking about, Curry?
I can't deal.
The changes to section four are total, the whole thing is about pedo bear.
So, essentially, the president changed the courts-martial manual as to what you can be court-martialed for, and they added child pornography.
And I'm talking about serious stuff here, you know, about having child pornography in your possession, having it stored on your computer.
And literally, that is more than half of the annex.
I would like to see how this is worded, because that means that the executives of Google and Microsoft should be busted for storing child pornography on their computers.
They're cached.
Everything's cached.
If it's online, it's cached.
Yeah, but they're not in the military.
Oh, this refers only to the military?
Yeah, this is the military courts.
How bad is that problem?
Well, there must be something really bad.
Now, there is a lot of Article 32 stuff in here, which is what Bradley Manning is likely to be charged with.
But I couldn't really find...
I mean, this is real legal stuff.
And this is way, way beyond what I can actually parse.
But then when you look at all the pedo bear stuff...
It's like, wow, you know, it's just, you know, it's like if you even have this stuff on your hard drive, 10 years mandatory sentence.
If you've produced it, thank you, darling, which can be, you know, production in any way, you know, even if you have a picture and you copied it onto your drive, 15 years.
This is the easiest way in the world to set someone up.
Anybody.
Anybody.
And then I... Yeah, and if you could...
This has got to be the...
You got some guy, you just put the stuff on...
I mean, for one thing, you can have it on a disc and put it, you know, and then use their machine, or you can drop in a Trojan.
It's the oldest trick.
It's the oldest trick in the book.
You can have the Trojan suck up a bunch of porn and stick it on the hard drive.
Yeah, this is a methodology for setting people up to put them in jail and throw the key away.
I mean, it is literally the oldest trick in the book.
The only reason you would do this is because there's already laws that cover all this stuff.
Yeah, but this is specific to the military.
Let me just...
Here, I have...
Something fishy about it.
Impeachment of evidence, conviction of crime.
Hold on a second.
I have it here.
Here, Article 134, Child Pornography, Texas Statute.
Possessing, receiving, or viewing child pornography.
The accused knowingly, wrongfully possessed, received, or viewed child pornography.
Under the circumstances, the conduct of the accused was...
So there's differences, right?
Possessing with intent to distribute, etc.
Here is the important one.
They also changed another word.
Character for truthfulness has been now changed to the word credibility.
There's all these little minor things.
Producing means creating or manufacturing as used in this paragraph refers to making child pornography that did not previously exist.
It does not include reproducing or copying, oh, in this particular paragraph, but sexually explicit conduct means actual or simulated A, sexual intercourse or sodomy, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, oral-anal, between persons of the same or opposite sex, bestiality, masturbation, sadistic or masochistic abuse, or lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person.
I mean, so they're really serious about this.
And then I hear this report.
How rampant is the problem?
Well, listen to this.
Listen to the association that comes up in this news report.
What kind of precedent is that going to set?
I mean, if we let government employees start saying, well, you know, I don't think this should be classified.
I think this is trying to cover up a wrong.
I'm going to leak this to WikiLeak.
I mean, what a dangerous road would be.
What about WikiLeaks?
Could they face some criminal liability here?
You know, I think that's happened in the past in America.
Well, let's look at all the recent cases we've had where the government's won after websites that have posted child pornography.
You remember recently that whole hubbub about Perez Hilton.
So I have a feeling, there's no reason for that, by the way.
How the hell do you go from WikiLeaks to the government going after websites for child pornography?
And that's a JAG lawyer who's saying this.
So I think there is, you know, going along with this Bradley Manning trial where, you know, there's now, he's like, well, he had gender identity issues, so they're already pushing it in that direction.
I have a feeling that they're going to discover that he was way into child pornography or something weird like that.
That's what it feels like to me.
It really does.
And by the way, every single news report, Around the world that I can find has the same picture of Bradley Manning.
Yeah, that same stupid picture.
Then we have reports.
The shit eat and grin on his face.
Then we have reports.
Of Bradley Manning.
Of the so-called trial.
And I have one here.
And they don't have any pictures.
They have drawings.
They have drawings.
And there's one picture, one video that everyone is using.
And you see the guy walking out.
He's behind glass.
And you see him walking along.
It's not the same guy.
He looks nothing like the Bradley Manning in the picture.
Nothing like him at all.
And then we've got testimony.
They have people on the phone testifying in this case.
One guy from Italy and some other guy they're testifying against.
And how does that work?
Since when do we...
This is a very important case.
They've held this so-called guy, which I think is still fake, for 19 months.
They can't get the witnesses to come to the courtroom to testify?
They've got to phone it in?
That's weird, John.
Yeah, the whole thing is very suspicious.
And honestly, I'm just not buying it here.
Now they're saying he had links to foreign agents.
Oh, please.
Oh, yeah.
So, you know, oh, yeah, of course.
Bradley Manning's gender identity comes up in testimony.
A U.S. Army special agent testifying by phone from Germany was asked by one of Manning's attorneys if he knew that the Army private had an alter ego with the name Breanna Manning.
Ugh.
And then the other agent testified, also by phone from Hawaii, about searching Manning's living space and office in a storeroom at Ford Operating Base Hammer when he was stationed in Iraq.
That's where they're going to find the child pornography pictures.
I guarantee you, this is exactly how it's going to go down.
And we'll never hear from this guy again if he was ever real in the first place.
Completely disappeared.
But we'll have a lot of new rules, boy, I'll tell you that.
A lot.
And how can you have these child pornography laws, yet in the National Defense Authorization Act, rape is classified if the kid is under 12.
How does this work?
This is confusing my puny brain.
We'll never know.
It's beyond us.
It's beyond our ability to understand.
Clearly.
Take me out of this.
All right.
Get me out of this.
Okay, what do we have here?
I have a couple.
I want to say one thing.
I'm going to do this on an upcoming show, but probably the Iowa...
Vote will probably take it out of the news cycle.
So I decided that one of the things about Newt Gingrich that needs to be explored is this relationship he had with the wife that had cancer who was still alive, I guess, and then he dumped her.
It was just a really sorry day in the history of mankind, the way this guy acted.
And so I told Buzzkill Jr., who's a really great searcher, I said, I want to get the definitive article on Gingrich being a douchebag.
Right.
And you sent your son to go find that?
Yes.
Oh, good.
He could find it.
Good.
And he came back with nothing, saying it's been Google washed off the net.
Oh, no, I found something.
Okay, well, why don't you read it?
No, I have a clip.
Oh, okay.
Well, the clip is not the same as the definitive piece, because apparently there's a lot to this.
It is if it's from C-SPAN. Hit it.
Why have we not been hit since 9-11, which is a good question.
My first answer is I honestly don't know.
I would have expected another attack, and I particularly thought I was very, very worried and talked to the administration when we had the sniper attacks.
Because the sniper attacks were psychologically so frightening to the average person because of their randomness that I thought I was amazed that the bad guys didn't figure out how to send 10 or 12 sniper teams.
I think there are a couple things, though, that we tend not...
This is, by the way, one of the great tragedies of the Bush administration.
The more successful they've been at intercepting and stopping bad guys, the less proof there is that we're in danger.
And therefore, the better they've done at making sure there isn't an attack, the easier it is to say, well, there was never going to be an attack anyway.
And it's almost like they should every once in a while have allowed an attack to get through just to remind us.
Yeah, I heard this clip.
What an a-hole.
He's a total a-hole.
This is not the clip that proves what I'm after.
No, I know, but it shows he's a douche.
And the thing is, it is a specious argument.
This is the, oh well, you know, it's like, you know, I've got this rock, which is protecting us.
Well, this rock is just an inanimate object.
You say, well, you haven't had anything bad happen, right?
Right.
The rock must be working.
Yeah, the rock.
It's a pet rock.
My rock.
You know, you haven't had it.
You know, this rock keeps you from getting a cold.
National Security rock.
If you had a cold?
No, I haven't had a cold.
The rock is working.
The rock is not doing anything.
The rock is good.
The rock is good.
The rock is working.
Next, attention, Eric, the shill.
We need no agenda rocks.
Lucky rock.
Go pick up some lucky rocks.
Just say, the rock is working.
When you pick it up on the bottom, the rock is working.
Whatever is wrong, you can say to your kid, how are you feeling?
Pretty good.
The rock is working, kid.
Don't mess with the rock.
So anyway, it would not be beyond me to believe that Newt Gingrich's lewd past has been Google-washed.
That would not surprise me.
So I want to recommend to anybody out there who's got some deep links to the real Newt Gingrich story.
That we can discuss on the show to send me the link because I know I'm going to just do a crowdsourcing thing.
I can do it and probably find it this way because I can't find it using Google because it's been Google-washed.
Google does this.
In fact, I think we've been slightly Google-washed.
Oh, really?
If you go to no agenda, let me just check to make sure, but if you type in no agenda, which gives us the first four pages of Google results, we're still there, but...
The number one hit is SeanHannity.com.
So instead of NoAgendaShow.com or NoAgendaNation or anything, we do have NoAgenda.mevio.com a second, but NoAgendaShow has disappeared.
And there's no reason.
Well, wait a minute.
No, wait a minute, John.
You're right.
It says Sean Hannity, NoAgenda.mevio, Mevio.com, Wikipedia, NoAgenda.chat, Curry.com.
Huh!
So noagendashow.com has been Google-washed.
Let me check page two.
No.
It's gone.
Yeah.
It's not like you can't find us, but it's like No Agenda Show.
Oh, here it is.
Finally.
It's on page two.
Halfway down, donations.
No Agenda with Adam Curry and John C. DeVar.
Noagendashow.com slash donations.
That's where it comes up.
Wow.
But just not raw.
It's not up there raw.
No Agenda Show.
.com is not there by itself.
But SeanHannity.com being number one, I think that does show that a lot of people are searching for SeanHannity.com.
I think you're right.
That's got to be what it is.
That's good.
And then they click on this, and then they go, and if you click on it, it goes to NoGenTheShow.com, which you'd think that Google would be smart enough to figure out that SeanHannity.com is bogus, or bogus.
Well, I think what's happening is they're saying, oh, these guys are trying to be tricky.
Click.
Click.
You're gone, bitches.
You don't exist no more.
I don't know if that's true.
I think it's, whatever caused it, I'm not concerned at this point.
We're in SEO jail.
But we're in SEO jail.
Okay, yeah.
Well, that's Google for you.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's great.
Great system.
So because of this sort of thing, I cannot find the Newt Gingrich stuff.
Let's not forget, co-conspirator with Hillary Clinton.
Do you think she's pissed off?
I don't know if you like being called Lucifer.
Oh yeah, that probably doesn't help things.
And I think she's okay with that.
It's the ragging on her hair that she's pissed off about.
Well, you know, somebody's got to tell her to get back to Paris.
Quickly!
And she knows we're right.
That's why she's angry.
That's why she's angry.
They've noticed my hair sucks.
I've got to get back to Andre in Paris.
Just hire the guy and put him on the Air Force plane with her.
Oh, that was really funny.
So, the Obamas, of course, they've got to go to Hawaii for their traditional American Christmas.
And...
The president has Air Force One all gassed up and ready to go, but he had to stay behind in this really important speech.
You know, it delayed the trip by, what, four hours or something?
So, apparently, Michelle, Sasha, and Taniqua, Malika?
I can't remember her name.
They went on a separate jet.
Oh, because they couldn't wait the four hours and they decided instead of going with Dad that they'd waste the taxpayers' money and fly over there by themselves four hours early?
Is that what you're telling me?
Yes, and this came up in question time with spokeshole Carney.
Now there's something very interesting.
I want you to listen carefully to this clip and tell me what you think is odd and I'll explain it afterwards.
But here's the question, here's his answer.
Yeah, the First Lady is going to be leaving in a few hours for Hawaii.
Obviously, she isn't able to go with the President.
But I wanted to ask you, isn't it quite an extravagance for people to go in two jets to Hawaii, particularly given the state of the economy, the state of the budget, and also given the directive that was just put out about limiting air travel by the administration?
Two things, Mike.
First of all, I think you ought to check your sourcing on that.
I think the original story was...
An interesting one.
But the First Lady and their daughters will be traveling today, as originally planned for their annual holiday trip, to visit their family in the President's home state of Hawaii.
As previous First Ladies have done, they will travel on a military aircraft.
Couldn't they wait and everybody go on one, so there's one jet instead of two?
Because then the Air Force One is $185,000 an hour to operate, and that's a long flight.
Again, as previous First Ladies have done, they will travel on a military aircraft.
As previous First Ladies have done, they will travel separate from the President.
Okay, so he just answers the question a second time.
Now, what was interesting about this clip?
Did you notice anything?
Besides the sound effects.
Aha.
So here's what happens, and you've got to see this video.
So the question is being asked.
And just as Carney's about to answer, you hear his computer, because he has a computer there on the lectern, and it's right underneath the microphone.
First you hear bling-bling, which is a chat message, and then you hear his Blackberry go bling-bling, and then he starts reading off the screen.
He is reading his answer off the screen.
So they've got people behind there listening to, oh my God, this guy's bringing one a-hole, and they type it in real quick, and you can hear Carney start to answer And then he looks down.
He's reading it off the screen.
Listen to it again with this knowledge.
Yeah, the First Lady's going to be leaving in a few hours for Hawaii.
Obviously, she isn't able to go with the President.
Quick, quick, quick!
Type in an answer!
I don't want to say it!
I don't want to say it!
This is consistent with all previous First Ladies!
But I wanted to ask you, isn't it quite an extravagance for people to go in two jets to Hawaii, particularly given the state of the economy, the state of it?
They're looking it up now.
They're typing it in.
Plenty of time to do that.
Two things, Mike.
First of all, I think you ought to check your sourcing on that.
So that's just to win some time while he's looking down.
I think the original story was...
There's a blackberry.
An interesting one.
But the First Lady and their daughters...
I'm not going to say another story, but...
The First Lady and their daughters will be traveling today, as originally planned for their annual holiday trip, to visit their family and the President's home state of Hawaii.
Yeah, he's reading this.
Yeah, listen.
Listen to this part.
As First Ladies have done, they will travel on a military aircraft.
It's so funny.
So now we know.
Now you can see this all the time.
They've got a whole team of researchers there in the back prompting him.
And you can see him looking down.
He's reading this off verbatim.
So, in other words, there's a now, instead of a press secretary who comes out and who knows what's going on and can answer questions, he's essentially a mouthpiece for a group of researchers that are in the back.
They don't have to be in the back.
They can be anywhere.
Wherever they are, there's a bunch of them.
Because if you're going to have one, you might as well have a team.
This is like the people that, well, you're on some quiz show and you get to call your one friend.
Yeah.
And your one friend is sitting there with about 40 guys waiting for the call, and they're all on Google, going as fast as they can because you've got 30 seconds.
He had lots of time.
There was like a minute during that question.
They had plenty of time.
And they're good.
I can just see the back room.
It's like, quick, what do we have?
Our first ladies traveling on jets!
Okay, I've got it.
I'm book of knowledge.
Oh, it's consistent with our first ladies.
Quick, put it in.
Okay.
Let's push it through to the BlackBerry!
He said all first ladies?
Yeah.
So in other words, let's see, John Adams' wife, before air travel, she was traveling on Air Force planes.
Was she traveling on Air Force planes?
Hammerhand Lincoln.
Hammerhand Lincoln traveled on Air Force One.
I mean, how many, you know, this is new.
This is not all first ladies.
Recent first ladies, maybe.
He's talking about Bush, that's all.
Why don't they say Bush?
Well, they couldn't corroborate that quick enough in the back room, in the boiler room.
Well, this is pretty depressing.
I just thought it was really interesting.
So this guy should just quit.
They should just ask the computer.
They should have Watson be the new press secretary.
There you go, Watson.
IBM. Is that your final answer, Watson?
Yes, it is.
Watson can answer in the form of a question.
Yes.
What is all previous First Ladies have traveled in this manner?
Wow.
Good catch.
It was hilarious.
I couldn't believe it.
At first, I'm like, yeah, okay.
It's a nasty question, but they're absolutely right.
It's $185,000 an hour to fly Air Force One.
But I heard bling, bling.
And then the BlackBerry right after, I'm like...
Yeah, that was pretty bad.
This has probably been going on for a while, but he used to have his sound turned down.
Some joker got a hold of the computer and turned the sound back on.
Way up, yeah, way up, exactly.
And he probably forgot about his Blackberry, and so they made all this racket, and now he's busted.
Let's ask Cleverbot.
Hold on.
Let's see if Cleverbot can do it.
Why did the first lady travel on a separate...
What is it?
How do we spell separate?
Separate.
S-E-P-A-R-A-T-E. R-A-T-E. Jet.
Let's see what Cleverbot says.
The answer?
Cleverbot has to think.
I don't know.
Why did the girl cut the handle off the broom?
Ask Siri.
Maybe she knows.
Yes, I bet you.
They're probably sitting back there with Siri and Vlingo.
No, I think Watson.
I think your first hunch is right there.
It's Watson doing all the business.
Excellent.
Good job, spokeshole Carney.
Rock and roll.
So we might as well talk about getting out of Iraq, and I do have the breaking news from Fox.
Hold on a second.
Ladies and gentlemen, we've got the breaking news!
Breaking news!
And we go over to Baghdad, our correspondent.
John C. Dvorak is in Baghdad.
John, what you got going on?
Well, what I have is a Fox report called Out of Iraq for Good.
Hit it.
Crap.
Oh, shit.
This is a Fox News alert.
I'm Marian Rafferty in New York.
Just moments ago, the final U.S. troops left Iraq, crossing the border into Kuwait.
And this is nearly nine years after U.S. troops stormed the country in search of Saddam Hussein and his reputed weapons of mass destruction.
That was back in March of 2003.
And since then, the war has cost nearly 4,500 American lives, 100,000 Iraqi lives, and cost 800 billion U.S. dollars.
Let's go now to Fox News correspondent Greg Palkot, who is streaming live from the Iraq-Kuwait border.
Greg, quite a lot of celebration, a lot of clapping earlier as that last truck came over the border.
What is going on there now?
A momentous time.
A momentous time, Marianne, an historic time.
Just in the past hour, we've seen the last U.S. troops leave Iraq to come into Kuwait.
They were coming down from a base about five hours' drive north of where we are right now.
And right to the end, we are told, militants in the region still were proclaiming that they wanted to kill Americans.
So it was a mission.
It was a withdrawal that was under high security.
But the camp is now closed down.
All U.S. troops, which at its peak was at 171,000 in Iraq, now all gone.
Essentially, except for a residual force, there are no American forces left inside Iraq.
You know what's interesting about this report, besides the fact that he mistimed his in on the satellite feed, although if he had kept talking, it would have sounded like it was a tight connection, which I thought was interesting.
I wonder why, you know, if you do these long satellite feeds where you ask a question and you wait forever for the answer, if you could just have a keyword so the person could step in before you're actually done answering the question.
Well, John, obviously, if we were running Fox, it would be much tighter.
It would be a lot tighter.
So were these vehicles that were coming out, I don't even know what.
Remember we did that last thing some time back about dropping it down to 50,000?
And there was these crazy looking vehicles.
This group of vehicles coming out were like things from the moon.
I have never seen anything like these things.
They were crazy looking.
They're props.
They had it left over from Mad Max.
Man, they had some dynamite.
I'm surprised they didn't have big walkers coming out here.
Robot Wars movie.
Well, first of all, I have to call total bullshit $800 billion.
Try $4 trillion.
That's what this war really cost, not $800 billion.
Yeah.
I'm sure the $100,000 net is low, too.
But here's the thing that struck me.
The world is upside down all of a sudden.
Where we have Fox, and of course, this only...
Well, I think today you'll find out as a couple more things coming up.
That not only is Fox run by the Democrats, but it's all run by exactly the same people.
So now they've switched it up to mess with our minds.
Because here's the Cafferty report from CNN, who should be working for Fox.
Well, if I don't know about you, but I'm a little tired of being treated like a mushroom by my government.
You know, kept in the dark and fed fertilizer.
President Obama is hailing the end of the Iraq war as though the enemy had signed the terms of surrender on the deck of the USS Missouri.
Total hogwash.
This is the same war Obama referred to as dumb nine years ago.
But now it's all hail to the chief, marching bands, and rah-rah-rah.
Look what we did.
Well, what we did was invade a country that had done nothing to us, killed hundreds of thousands of their people as well as thousands of our own, bankrupted our treasury in the process, all in the search for weapons of mass destruction that a cynic might suggest we knew all along didn't exist in the first place.
The Iraqi government told us a few months ago to get the hell out of their country.
That's why we're leaving.
We're being kicked out.
Nothing noble about that.
Before we were told to take a hike, though, we built the largest embassy in the world, along with more than 500 military bases at the height of the war, all at taxpayers' expense.
We had every intention of staying, occupying, no intention of going anywhere.
See, there's all that oil over there.
As it is, we will leave behind some 17,000 people at that embassy compound.
Yes, some of them will be members of the State Department, Diplomatic Corps, but they'll also be contractors and intel folks who can keep an eye on things.
You know, just in case those weapons of mass destruction turn up.
Or in case Iran tries to fill the power vacuum, which it will.
What garbage.
And the government has the gall to paint this as some sort of military triumph.
This isn't the end of anything.
This is the beginning of yet another long-term occupation, not unlike Japan and Korea and Germany.
Here's the question then.
Why, after all of these years, can't our government bring itself to tell us the truth about Iraq?
Go to CNN.com slash Cafferty File, post a comment on my blog, or go to our post on the Situation Room's Facebook page.
Disgraceful.
Go Jack.
Disgraceful.
It's disgraceful.
Go Jack.
That was pretty weird.
Yeah, I wonder what that's all about.
He must have been disinvited to something.
Oh, yeah, he probably didn't get the invitation to the White House Christmas party.
To the caroling.
That's pretty right.
So it's upside down.
Yeah, there's always some.
It's all upside down.
Pretty weird.
Yeah, well, it's going to be interesting to see how they deal with this upcoming Ron Paul either winning or coming in second.
In fact, the New York Times, I should go over the New York, today's New York Times.
Oh, good idea.
Yeah, because I have a theory on what's going on with Ron Paul, actually.
Okay.
Well, let me just tell you what...
This is the first time I've seen any such thing, but...
On the front page of the Saturday paper, which is very critical to the storylines of the weekend...
You know, well, if you're going to do this, then we might as well...
John's gonna hum the Sunday time!
Yeah!
So, uh...
Paul's ground game in play since 08 gives him an edge.
Yeah, this is the meme, the ground game.
Books on the ground.
And this is on the front page.
So they're covering their ass here with this one because the New York Times has not mentioned Paul as a player.
And they're probably part of a lot of the surveys that showed him in third or fourth with phony baloney numbers.
So now they're covering their ass.
In other words, they're fearful, and I believe with good reason, that Paul's going to win Iowa.
And so now we're going to have to deal with probably months of, well, Iowa wasn't that important.
It wasn't really a vote.
It was a caucus.
It's a lot different.
He had people on the ground for four years building up the base.
And, of course, what they're not going to answer is how come he was always being shown in these phony baloney surveys with 8% or 2% or no percent or never mentioned.
He wasn't talked up on any of the shows or anything.
So how could he do so well?
He will come in either first or second.
There's no question in my mind about that.
And, you know, if these people can get their act together about Gingrich, they can make it first very easily.
I looked at both papers for stuff on Syria.
Well, wait.
Let's stay with Ron Paul for a second.
Oh, okay.
So, you have a theory about what's going on.
I do.
I do.
And it actually came to me this morning in the form of love from ahead.
Bathroom break?
No, love from God, actually.
So first of all, I think that we do have a lot of European listeners down under, in Asia, in Africa.
We've got people all over the globe listening.
Not all of them have been privy to the beautiful exchange between Ron Paul and Michelle Bachmann during the debate which happened Thursday evening.
This is the last debate before the Iowa caucus.
And On one hand, it was really, really awesome to see Ron Paul stand up and say, hey, you know what?
People are sick and tired of war.
We're just sick of it.
And everyone was hooting and hollering.
And then he did something very...
Right, but very, very dangerous.
He called out the biggest lie we've seen, which all the media has propagated.
We debunked immediately because we actually read the International Atomic Energy Association's report from the United Nations.
And there was nothing in that report that said Iran was anywhere near making a nuclear bomb.
All it said was, well, we've received all kinds of documents from other countries who say they are, but we couldn't find anything.
Right.
We read the document.
Right, John?
That's what we do.
So you don't have to.
Did we did we read that or not?
Yeah.
So there this I Paul's dead on on this, but nobody wants to talk about the fact this is a sham.
So he also had we also went to we had some clips and shows passed from some of these spook meetings that we that they show on C-SPAN where the people talk about what were, you know, what's really going on, which was Iran was looking at making a bomb during the Iraq war, which was years ago, decades ago.
and they gave up on the idea because it's just not...
Yeah.
get blown to smithereens if they used it yeah or and if they have it they're just risking all kinds of problems and which uh ron paul on one of these speech exchanges mentioned the and i don't know if it's the one with bachman or not but he did mention that that all the stuff that we're getting and we've discussed this on this show when you have that crazy akhmadinejad going on and on about one thing or another that the translation is rather dubious that we're getting fed he didn't mention that It might as well be like the one that's on...
It was on one of the other exchanges.
Yeah, it was.
It was another...
Well, the point being, the media took this lie and prop...
I mean, you and I forget about it.
People who listen to this show forget about it because we already know.
We read the document together.
You know, this is what we do.
It's not that hard.
You know, I do speak English.
I'm a disc jockey, but I can read it.
And it said, conclusion.
We couldn't find anything.
But, you know, other people say it is.
But there was nothing in that report that said...
But the media...
He took this, politicians took this, and he did something very dangerous, because when you call out Michelle Bachman for that lie, you're calling out all of the media for lying.
So I want to play that exchange.
It's a couple minutes, but it's good for people who have not heard it, because it was absolutely a history-making piece of television.
It's important that we just listen to this.
He's calling her and the entire Western media establishment out for liars, because there was nothing in their report.
All you have to do is read it.
Without a shadow of a doubt that Iran will take a nuclear weapon, they will use...
Without a shadow of a doubt!
...to wipe our ally Israel off the face of the map, and they've stated they will use it against the United States of America.
Look no further than the Iranian constitution, which states unequivocally...
Do they even have a constitution?
They probably do.
I think they do.
Their mission is to extend jihad across the world and eventually to set up a worldwide caliphate.
We would be fools and knaves to ignore their purpose and their plan.
Fools and knaves.
What's a knave?
You know, it's like an idiot.
Fools and knaves?
How do you spell that?
K-N-A-V-E-S. Fools and knaves.
Great show title.
Fools and knaves.
All right.
Obviously, I would like to see a lot less nuclear weapons.
I don't want Iran to have a nuclear weapon.
I would like to reduce them because there would be less chance of war.
But to declare war on 1.2 billion Muslims and say all Muslims are the same, this is dangerous talk.
Yeah, there are some radicals, but they don't come here to kill us because we're free and prosperous.
Do they go to Switzerland and Sweden?
I mean, that's absurd.
If you think that is the reason, we have no chance of winning this.
They come here and they explicitly explain it to us.
The CIA has explained it to us.
It said they come here and they want to do us harm because we're bombing them.
What is the whole world about the drone being in Iran?
And we're begging and pleading and how are we going to start a war to get this drone back?
Why were we flying the drone over Iran?
Why do we have to bomb so many countries?
Why are we in, have 900 bases, 130 countries, and we're totally bankrupt?
How are you going to rebuild the military when we have no money?
How are we going to take care of the people?
So, I think this wild goal to have another war in the name of defense is the dangerous thing.
The danger is really us overreacting, and we need a strong national defense, and we need to only go to war with a declaration of war and just carelessly flouting it and starting...
And he's looking at her now, and he's looking angry.
...these wars so often.
And the problem would be the greatest underreaction in world history if we have an avowed madman who uses that nuclear weapon to wipe nations off the face of the earth.
And we have an IAEA report that just recently came out that said literally Iran is within just months.
It did not!
You did not!
You lying sack!
You douchebagette!
You lie!
You lie!
Of being able to obtain that weapon.
Nothing could be more dangerous than the comments that we just heard.
All right, 30 seconds.
There is no UN report that said that.
It's totally wrong on what you just said.
That is not true.
What a gentleman.
That is not true.
If I were there, I would have lost.
I would have said, listen, you psychopathic piece of shit.
Of course, that pretty much would blow my chances in Iowa, but that's how I would have responded.
Just information that led you to believe that.
They have no evidence.
There's been no enrichment.
Listen to people going, ah, kooky Ron Paul.
They said that.
I heard it on the news.
We agree with that.
If we agree with that, the United States people could be at risk.
She took my time, so I'd like to finish.
If she thinks we live in a dangerous world, she ought to think back when I was drafted in 1962 with nuclear missiles in Cuba.
And Kennedy calls Khrushchev and talks to him and talks him out of this and we don't have a nuclear exchange.
And you're trying to dramatize this, that we have to go and treat Iran like we've treated Iraq and kill a million Iraqis and...
8,000-some Americans have died since we've gone to war.
You cannot solve these problems with war.
You can solve the problems if we follow our Constitution and go to war only when we declare the war, go in and win and get them over with instead of this endless fighting and this endless attitude that we have enemies all around the world.
But as President, I stand on the side of peace.
Thank you.
Can I mention something else since we're talking about her?
I just searched the entire Islamic Republic of Iran constitution.
There is absolutely nothing about a caliphate or anything else within this document.
She is full of shit.
Yeah, exactly.
She should be ashamed of herself.
She's a good Christian woman.
Yeah.
I mean, she's an out-and-out liar.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I was listening.
I'm like, liar, liar, liar.
She should be totally ashamed of herself.
If anyone even votes for her or even thinks of her as a candidate now, they should be ashamed of themselves for not doing the research to figure out that this woman is full of crap.
She's a psycho.
She is totally psycho.
She looks like a psycho.
She looks like a psycho.
So now here's the interesting thing that happens, and this is where I'm going.
Now, all of a sudden, the NBC empire kicks into gear, and they are just, like, loving Ron Paul.
He shows up on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, which still matters.
By the way, with Joe Rogan following him, which was great for the Ron Paul movement, because Joe Rogan came out with a Ron Paul sweatshirt, and it was fantastic.
And Joe Rogan has a huge audience as well.
And Ron Paul is killing it.
Jay's handing him softballs.
It's beautiful.
She does well.
Oh yeah, but he's really handing him softballs.
It's just like, here, take this one.
Whack!
Out of the park.
Whack!
Out of the park.
One after another.
And then Ron Paul, he gets the chance to say this.
He totally nails this.
How about Newt Kinrich?
He maybe should run for Speaker of the House.
Michelle Bachmann?
She doesn't like Muslims.
She hates Muslims.
She wants to go get them.
By the way, I don't know if anyone writes for him, or the guy is just a genius, because what a perfect two-punch joke.
John Huntsman seems like a reasonable man to me, but he can't seem to get any traction.
No, and he is.
He's a nice person, and he's a good diplomat.
He knows what diplomacy is all about, and he's a thoughtful person.
Get ready for the callback.
Rick Santorum, I never see him talk about it.
It seems like to him, gay people, oh my God, that's the end of the world.
He doesn't seem to talk about anything else.
I mean, does he...
Gay people and Muslims.
Boom!
That's genius, man.
That's like a callback to the previous...
It's fantastic.
Then we get...
What's his name?
Schultz.
From MSNBC. Ed Schultz.
Yeah, and he comes out and he does something very interesting.
He is singing the praises of Ron Paul and plays a medley of Fox Clips where they're slamming Ron Paul.
But the people on a certain cable news channel, they don't want Republicans to think that Ron Paul has a chance at all.
This is what Fox News viewers heard about Ron Paul all week long.
There is not, you know, rock-solid support for anybody except perhaps Ron Paul, who does get his 15 to 20 percent.
If Ron Paul wins here, what then?
Well, the Ron Paul people are not going to like my saying this, but to a certain degree it will discredit the Iowa caucuses.
I think right now anybody other than Ron Paul Could beat Obama.
And Ron Paul, to me, is just a complete distraction.
I absolutely, positively guarantee you that if Ron Paul is the Republican nominee, Barack Obama is the next president.
Right.
He's not going to be the nominee.
Right, so then Schultz goes into this whole thing.
Now...
And I want to mention, since you had Cavuto on there, Cavuto was on the Fox with the...
It was interesting to watch this debate because you had two people that were interesting.
The most interesting was Megan Kelly, who was made up to the tens.
Who needs to eat...
What is wrong with that girl?
Well, she was glowering at Gingrich.
I mean, the evil eye.
I mean, she hates Gingrich.
She went after him.
But she needs to eat now.
Because, you know, TV makes you look like you've got 10, 20 pounds on you.
She is a stick.
I think she's sick.
Well, she might be, but she sure would look good.
No, no.
Her face was nicely made.
I liked her.
No, she did not look good.
Whatever the case was, she was glowering at Gingrich.
She knows about this Gingrich story to an extreme.
That's why I want to get the Gingrich story and bring it out on the show.
Meanwhile, wait.
Cavuto hates Ron Paul, and when he asked him questions, every time he did, he rolled his eyes and he threw his head in the air.
It was really, really bad.
So here's what's going on.
And we can use this to our advantage, because I'm about to do some kind of video to support Ron Paul.
I mean, I do have an agenda in this case.
I have an agenda that's like, I want to have a frickin' world left over.
I believe that all the media, Fox, CNN, the whole NBC empire, are using Ron Paul as a pawn to get Mitt Romney...elected as the GOP nominee.
And the McLaughlin group this morning completely laid it out.
Question.
Does a first place showing in Iowa mean winning the nomination?
Pat Buchanan.
For Ron Paul?
No, it does not, John.
But a first place showing in Iowa for Ron Paul, which is a real possibility, would blow Newt Kinrich's surge right out of the water.
Gingrich would then get his first opportunity to win in South Carolina, and even if he won that, he might not get the nomination.
This would be dynamite, John, because Ron Paul would get enormous national attention.
He would rise in New Hampshire, not to the point where he could beat Romney, but he would wipe out Newt Gingrich there.
I think the strategic asset of Mitt Romney right now is Ron Paul, and I'm sure a lot of Romneyites are go, Ron, go.
I agree with this theory.
Huckabee was used in the same method in the last election to make sure that McCain got the nomination.
Let's listen to Eleanor.
Which is, by the way, the reason that I stick to my guns.
Yeah, no, that's good.
The nominee is going to be Romney.
I just can't get it out of my mouth because it's a karma thing.
I want Ron Paul to win and I want him to become president.
So I just can't...
I'm all for it.
All right.
So let's listen to Eleanor, who, of course, I've deemed as someone's mom you don't like.
She is the town idiot.
Eleanor?
I don't think it's Ron Paul's intention, but he is serving the Republican establishment that really wants to slow or stop Newt Gingrich.
If Ron Paul wins in Iowa, everybody will say, isn't that nice, but he's not going to be the nominee.
There are two things you can say about Ron Paul, though.
He's consistent and he's principled.
And once you understand those principles, you understand how he can be for legalizing marijuana and for not doing everything possible to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon.
He believes in virtually no government.
He would dismantle the current government by 80%.
He is a libertarian.
What about the country?
So, she's...
80%?
She's an idiot.
Please.
You know, it's like, you know, isolationist, you know, all these words crop up.
Here's another little clip from this.
This is a very interesting show.
I've just clipped it down for you.
Actually, a three-way tie, but I wouldn't discount Michelle Bachman.
Listen to her.
What?
Yeah, I know.
I wouldn't...
Because she's a good liar.
She had a very strong performance in the debate over the weekend.
Strong performance of lying.
And she has an organization.
She's on a bus tour visiting all 99 counties.
Oh, well, if you're on a bus tour, then...
The best people in her organization quit long since they got sick of her.
You can go if you don't want Romney and you're wary of Newt Gingrich.
There's a lot good to be said about Newt Gingrich, though.
He'd deliver a really interesting campaign about a lot of ideas, like increasing the health budget so we can solve Alzheimer's, space colonies.
Hey, Moonbase!
Wait a minute.
All of a sudden, I'm interested in this Gingrich.
Does he want to build moon bases?
Yeah.
Space colonies?
Yeah, moon bases.
Yeah, that's good.
Go Newt!
Go Newt to the moon!
Some things sound bizarre, but the guy really does think outside the box.
Screw you, Eleanor.
Let's talk about the polling in Iowa.
The polling, the current polling in Iowa today.
Here we go.
The most recent poll I've seen is by Rasmussen on December the 13th.
Right.
Okay?
Of 750 likely voters, Romney leads by three points.
Paul is in third place.
What do you think of that?
If that happens, okay, that's going to be pretty much the end of the Republican nomination fight, because I think if Romney wins in Iowa, he's going to win in New Hampshire, he's going to have enough momentum to carry him through.
Is that the best diagnostic we have?
No, no, no.
John, Romney wins.
But three weeks away!
Hey, John, if Ron Paul wins, Romney wins.
If Romney wins, Romney wins.
But if Newt wins, Romney's got problems.
Meanwhile, the Des Moines Register has come out and endorsed Mitt Romney.
Of course, the Des Moines Register is owned by Gannett, and I'm sure that Bain Capital has placed some strategic investment.
The whole thing is rigged, people, and you're not in on the game.
It's rigged.
So anyway, it is nice that Ron Paul was getting, you know, if we can motivate enough people to go and actually vote, then, you know, then we could pull it off.
And so it's a dangerous game they're playing, I think.
Because, you know, this is not Huckabee.
This is Ron Paul.
Huckabee, of course, just, you know, just stands for nothing except the hamburger.
But Ron Paul stands for something.
So if they're going to use the same strategy and try and use him to get their guy in, it could backfire.
It could.
It would be funny if it did.
Oh, man.
More material for us.
Hey, you know, we might get invited to the White House then.
Actually, we would.
Yeah, I think we would.
Or you would.
No, I'd bring you along.
Well, until it happens.
Can you imagine showing up at the White House?
We can't really have guests.
The Honorable Mr.
Carey!
The Honorable John C. Dvorak!
You can either bring Mickey or you can bring this other stone.
No, I'm bringing...
What?
That's what they're going to tell you.
No, no.
No way.
I'm bringing you, Miss Mickey, I'm bringing Mimi, Eric the Shill, and Buzzkill Jr.
And I'm bringing Gitmo Slave and Mr.
Oil.
The Honorable Mr.
Oil!
The Honorable Gitmo Slave!
Can you imagine?
I'll bring Pelsmarkers while we're at it.
And His Royal Highness Baron Stephen von Pelsmarkers from the Barony of Belgium.
What a party that would be.
We'd all be drinking apple cider.
Yeah.
Hooting it up.
A girl can dream.
So, what else we got here?
So, I was watching, you know, there's a show that's on CNBC, sometimes on CNBCW, which I don't know why it hasn't just won, and I recommend it to people, and maybe our entertainment networks can put it on there as a recommended show.
It's on all the time.
It's called...
American Greed.
Oh yeah, I've seen that for sure.
It has got some of the best stories.
Why it hasn't won numerous Emmys is beyond me, because it's absolutely fantastic.
There's actually only two shows that CNBC has on After Hours.
It's either American Greed, it's another marijuana story, or it's about hookers.
That's the only three things they play.
Right?
Yeah, that's pretty close.
So they had a thing on Beckstra, which I thought was interesting because the teasers and everything.
I had a lot of clips, but I ended up with two clips I'm going to play.
So you remember Beckstra?
No.
This all took place during our show, and I don't remember much about it.
The American Greed brought most of it out.
It's a Pfizer product that was taken off the market, and then they were fined.
It took almost a decade to get rid of this stuff.
But just listen to the Bextro One clip, and tell me that this is some compelling television.
By early March 2003, attorney Erica Kelton has started compiling a mountain of evidence for a civil lawsuit on behalf of the whistleblowers.
You had the FDA's denial.
You had a marketing scheme.
We also had evidence of a nationwide fraud scheme.
If you were to put together the dream off-label case, this pretty much would be it.
When American greed returns, scientists link Bextra to a potentially fatal skin disease.
Not only is it not as good at solving your pain, but it might actually lead your skin to fall off.
Oh yeah, now I remember!
Yeah, sure.
I remember the skin falling.
This is not good to have your skin fall off.
I remember that.
It's like having your heart fall out.
Your penis like...
So it's like...
So I'm watching this and I'm realizing that this was so covered up as a nationwide story that when they finally brought out how much money that Pfizer had to pay in penalties and fines...
$2.3 billion, right?
Yeah!
And so play clip two and they could put it in perspective.
Pharmaceutical powerhouse is ready to capitulate.
Pharmacia pleads guilty to a criminal count of introduction into interstate commerce of a misbranded drug.
Pfizer has agreed to pay $2.3 billion.
Pfizer gets hit with a staggering total of $2.3 billion.
$1 billion in civil fines and $1.3 billion in criminal fines for its subsidiary Pharmacia.
Pfizer's criminal fines are larger than Enron, WorldCom, larger than any other case in United States history.
Yeah, but they support the president, so shut up.
Pretty much.
Yeah.
I just found the whole thing disgusting.
Yeah.
And it just was, it was essentially, like they said, the biggest find in the history of the country.
And it was essentially covered up by the media.
I mean, there was, you know, the New York Times ran a story on, that guy was on there.
And that's, and it was buried in here and there.
It wasn't like...
Nobody picked it up.
I mean, they didn't want to pick it up because Pfizer is huge.
Not only is Pfizer monstrous, but they...
I mean, it's a $10 billion company, but they've...
Well, actually, the revenue is $67 billion.
It's $10 billion in profit.
But they own Searle.
They own Park Davis.
They own Upjohn.
They own Warner Lambert.
They own Wyatt.
They own Pharmacia.
They have all these companies.
It's a massive conglomerate that just can step all over anybody.
And they're just like...
2.3 billion?
Tough.
Nobody is thrown in jail.
It's a criminal.
Fine.
Why is there jail time involved in this?
Yeah, because only a couple people died.
And this goes on with one company after another.
I mean, one product after another with these guys.
Do you know who they don't own?
No, who don't they own?
Us.
I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on your agenda.
Who do I have?
Not in the morning.
Yet, anyway.
Robert Pinder in Lovettsville, Virginia.
$113.13.
Want to thank him.
With a note, he just donated $113.113.
I need to call myself out as a douchebag.
Douchebag!
Not because I don't donate and support this show.
I do whenever I can.
No!
I'm a douchebag because my son Bobby and I listened to the Sunday news live together, our show live together.
On his birthday, November 13th, he turned 13.
He was born on Friday the 13th and his ice hockey number is 13.
And I didn't ask for a birthday shout out.
What kind of a dad am I? Oh my goodness!
Oh, that's not okay.
1313 on Bobby Pinder's behalf and ask you to wish him a Merry Christmas and call his dad out as a douchebag for his ringtone.
Oh, wait a minute.
It's for his ringtone.
It's for his ringtone.
Okay.
Hey, Bobby, it's Adam here.
You got to fill in, okay?
We'll do it together.
Let's try it again.
Three, two, one.
Hey, Bobby, it's Adam Curry here.
And John C. Dvorak calling out your dad as...
Douchebag!
Cool.
Hopefully that came...
I am also starting a 1313 a month subscription.
Not much, but every little bit helps.
Thanks from both of us for producing the show so we can enjoy it together.
I've been teaching him to deconstruct commercials since he was too young to talk.
The show has given us a great way to bond and stay informed together.
Ah, another kid who will soon be on Ritalin.
Apparently, this is another kid that won't be on Ripley.
And he's a hockey player, so he's a tough kid.
Hello, Mr.
Pinder.
We have some concerns about your son, Bobby.
He's being very belligerent in class.
Jesse Wilson, Hobart, Indiana, $111.11.
John, you sent me an email asking me for $11.22 a month to support the show.
I decided it wasn't enough.
So I multiply it by the number of shows you've produced since that email and then round it to $111.11.
Yay!
So here's my bonus for the year.
Please give a shot at Karma Sense.
I have to ask my boss to pay for a class I need to keep my job on Monday.
Alright, well, let's do that.
You've got karma.
Keep up the great work on the best podcast in the multiverse.
Okay, here we go.
Levi Prinzing in Denison, Minnesota Nuts.
I'm drunk, so bear with me.
Okay, here we go.
First off, dammit, I can't find John's email address.
Oh, I can't send this to him, too.
I figures I better get off my ass and donate to you guys since I listen to every show and love the media assassination.
Plus, it's my B-Day today, so yay.
Happy birthday to fucking me.
Hell, I'm getting old.
Okay, I think I've donated enough to get karma, so please send it to my ex-Emily C. Show, recently moved to California with our kids in hope of a job.
I know, stupid, right?
You might remember her as the crazy Shantix chick a while back.
And she needs a job really bad, so hope it works out.
As always, making it by Levy, Prinzig, and Minnesota nuts.
$100.
Here's the karma for her.
You've got karma.
I encourage that.
That is the way to donate.
Donate.
Save a life.
Donate drunk.
Jordi Ramirez.
Sir Jordi Ramirez in Cancun.
Buenos tardes from Gitno Monation Taco.
This donation is for three podcast licenses for me and my cousin Alberto Beto.
Echarita and my brother-in-law Jordi Lozaga.
Also, please send some karma to me and my family.
We really need it to turn things around.
Thanks for the best podcast in the universe.
Nice accent.
We've got karma.
There's nothing like ridiculing the heritage of our donors, John.
That's really nice.
That's really good.
I couldn't not get into that voice because when I said, I couldn't get rid of it.
David Rudolph Baker in Groningen.
Groningen.
That's in Holland?
Yes, in the northern part of Holland.
Groningen.
8610.
Listen to DSC 861 for the 10th time today.
The fuck you Obama episode and still fucking love it.
These guys in Holland are filthy.
We're well worth the donation, I think.
I could use some karma because stupid Dutch regulations might get me kicked out of my apartment.
Oh yeah, of course.
That's just the beginning, my friend.
You've got...
What is he talking about?
Oh, you know, it's like you make too much money that you can't live in a cheap apartment, stuff like that.
It's crazy, is it?
This is...
You have to understand...
Oh, yeah.
A home is nuts.
So you can't save money on an apartment if you're making too much money?
No, if you make too much...
You want to save money and, you know...
Yeah, no, you can't.
They're going to be doing this a lot more now.
They've already announced these plans.
Making too much money, get out!
Yeah, you have to go get a more expensive apartment to have someone else who's making less money be able to rent that cheaper apartment.
Huh.
Yeah.
David Rader in Natick, Massachusetts, 7993.
Sir Chasen Rosdilsky in Saskatoon, 6969, which is the Paris of Canada.
I've been told.
For some reason, the Canadians think that's hilarious.
But I've been told that by Saskatchewanians.
Eric Pitcher in Newark, Delaware, 6969.
It's weird we got two of those in the same day.
Hummer Karma, because I need one from my MILF, not the Berkeley kind.
That's one mother, I like this.
We've got karma.
Not sure what he's talking about.
Gerald Small, Chesterfield, Missouri.
6789.
John Amherst, a donation to add to the Christmas fund.
Your analysis and insight has robbed us of our happy ignorance, but made us smarter and less trustful of our media, which makes us better Americans.
Your show is the best value for value out there.
I also want to call out my brother-in-law, Mike, who's introduced me, but who's falling behind on the shekels.
He's one week away from a douchebag call-out.
Ooh, boy.
Ooh, careful.
Thanks, guys, and have a great holiday.
Did he need to...
No, I think we're going to hold off on it.
Daniel Kepler, Glendale, Arizona, 60.
Troy Haskin, Madison, Wisconsin, 55, 56.
Hey, John and I, I'm a long-time boner, first-time donor.
I'm a graduate student at Nuclear Engineering at UW-Madison, just living the dream.
Some may say I decided to donate after five months of regular listening on my birthday at...
As a New Year's present to you guys, I don't always agree with the views expressed.
Who would?
But the show definitely makes me think.
Very important.
And by far, the most entertaining podcast I listen to.
New Soundbite, and he's got one listed.
Thanks for all the great content.
I'll donate when I can.
Patrick Deary in Sarnia, Ontario.
Double nickels on the dime.
James Peake, Birmingham, Alabama.
Double nickels on the dime.
Elisa Kim, Toronto, Ontario.
John and Adam, thank you for the hilarity-filled show.
for my boyfriend and Oz commute to and from work every day.
People that, that watch the Kardashians on a regular basis call us conspiracy theorists.
I don't get it.
What happened to the world?
This is my first donation, so I'd like to be put under my wonderful boyfriend Jason Sao Bento's knighthood if possible.
Hope to be able to afford donating more in the future, but times are tough and we could really use a bit of karma and maybe a de-douching for me.
Never donating, although listening to the show for about a year now.
Sorry, I literally set up a PayPal so I could start to donate to the show and hope it makes up something.
And here's hoping 2011 GTFO and 2012 makes better things for you and us.
Give her a double.
You've been deep douche.
You've got karma.
Andres Hidalgo in Manchester, Connecticut.
PayPal turned off my automatic donations.
By the way, everyone should check on this constantly.
They blame us sometimes.
PayPal told me that you guys canceled me.
We have never done that.
I know, it's horrible.
Turned off my automatic donations, so as long as I'm here setting it back up, I'll donate 50 bucks.
Please hook me up with some Christmas karma and thanks.
Keep up the good work.
Give him a Christmas karma.
Christmas karma.
Yo ho ho ho ho ho ho!
You've got karma.
Christmas karma.
And finally some $50 donations from Anonymous in Lille, France.
Jack the Rogue in Geneva, Illinois.
And Jessica Natalie in Victoria, BC, which is one of the prettiest little towns on the West Coast.
I recommend it to all.
And I want to remind anyone who wants to help us continue the cause, remember, donation is love.
We'll explain that later.
Donating is loving.
Donating is loving.
Dvorak.org slash na, channeldvorak.com slash na, noagendanation.com, or noagendashow.com, which is for some reason not on Google anymore.
It's been Google washed.
You can find the donation button there.
And there's also a little jingle we like to play.
Donating is loving.
I do have quick little karma notes here.
Oh, by the way, Mr.
Oil says, Thank you, Adam and John, so much for the No Agenda Karma.
It really worked!
I'm going home for Christmas early.
Thank you.
Wow, super karma, he says.
And then I'd like to send out some karma, not to a donor, but a guy who I've known for a very long time, Molly Meldrum in Australia.
Molly is famous in the music business.
He hosted a television show.
This is how I know him.
He hosted a television show called Countdown, a music television show.
Ow.
Ow.
Screw me.
Called Countdown way before the days of MTV.
And I was actually hosting a show in the Netherlands called Countdown.
So that's how we kind of knew each other.
And he is fighting for his life right now.
Although I think he would get a kick out of what happened.
He was stringing up Christmas lights and he fell off the ladder.
And now he's unconscious and in critical condition.
Yeah, they're doing surgery to relieve swelling in his brain and stuff.
So I want to hand out some Christmas karma to Molly Meldrum.
You've got karma.
He's a good guy.
He's a really good guy.
And, of course, we appreciate the help and the love from everybody who is supporting the No Agenda show.
We do it out of love, and you're showing your love in the same manner.
We really appreciate that.
It's your birthday, birthday, on no agenda!
Well, of course, we've got to congratulate Bobby Pinder, who, I guess his dad just doesn't really love him, but we do, Bobby.
We love you.
Happy birthday, belated.
Levi Prinzing congratulates himself on his birthday, and Troy Haskins celebrated his birthday on the 17th.
That was yesterday.
Happy birthday for your buddies here in the best podcast in the universe, the No Agenda Show!
It's your friend, Dave.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay, so.
No nights?
We got no nights?
No, we haven't had nights in a couple weeks.
Well, this is what happens.
People forget us.
It's like when people should be thinking of those in need and those less fortunate in these times.
Nope.
Nope.
We get forgotten, typically.
I've got two little interesting tidbits here.
One is, thank goodness...
The Gardasil train rolls on down under.
Where have you heard this before, department?
From the Australian press.
All teenage boys should be vaccinated against sexually transmitted disease that causes some forms of cancer under an extension of a scheme now available to girls.
The federal government's expert panel is recommended.
Yes, the Pharmaceutical Benefits Advisory Committee has proposed Gardasil vaccinations, available already to all girls to protect against cervical cancer, should be administered to boys to prevent throat and anus cancers triggered by the human papillomavirus.
That's right.
Because you know how you get that throat cancer, boys.
You know how that happens.
You don't want that throat cancer.
And so, good on you there, pharmaceutical industry.
The likelihood of getting throat cancer from smoking is much larger.
By a lot.
And by the way, there was an interesting story in the New York Times saying that they're going to ban smoking in public housing in New York.
How's that going to work?
You're going to ban it in your own house.
Now, here was a great hit job.
It is the season, of course, when it gets cold and then the pharmaceutical...
This, by the way, is the...
If you want to know what the germ is of my crack pottery, as a very young child, I always thought to myself, isn't it interesting how I have a cold or a sore throat and I see all these commercials on television with medicine against it?
How do they always time that so perfectly?
It's the cold and flu season.
Now, it's because they released it into the air, of course.
That's how.
I always thought that.
I said, you know, if I was...
Is this right?
Do you actually believe that as a kid and this is where you came up with your suspicious about everything mentality?
This was a fundamental thought of mine as a child.
I always wonder.
I said, what's from stopping them from just releasing these germs into the air and then selling the medicine?
There's nothing to stop them.
So, of course...
Whoever them are...
Well, you remember we had that...
What was the stuff called, John?
I'm talking two, three years ago.
The organic stuff or whatever that got pulled off the market.
Oh, right.
Echinacea.
No, no, not Echinacea.
Well, Echinacea, remember that one?
That was one of them.
Yeah, but it was a brand.
It was a brand of non...
Oh, I know.
Actually, I can tell you what it is because I have an empty box of it.
What was it called?
And the stuff really worked.
If you felt something come on, you'd run out.
And pilots actually would take this because it contained...
Zycam.
Zycam, thank you.
It was a zinc product.
Yeah, don't you remember those guys got screwed?
Oh yeah, they got totally screwed because of the spray.
If you spray it in your nose and it went back too far, you'd end up with a brain hemorrhage.
They had some bogus reason they made them take the one that worked the best and then they had these swabs.
They had to take it off.
Stick those up, nose, and it didn't work.
That was, of course, their competitors at work, obviously.
So one of the oldest ways in mankind to soothe yourself During the cold season is to gargle or snort salt water, right?
It was a methodology I've heard of.
I never heard of snorting it.
Well, you want to flush your sinuses, essentially.
From the UK press...
A sinus flushing device, which is essentially, it looks like a ceramic pitcher.
They call that a sinus flushing device.
Used to relieve colds and allergies has been linked to deadly brain-eating amoeba.
Louisiana State Health Department issued a warning about neti pots, which look like mini watering cans that are used by pouring salty water through one's nostril.
It follows two recent deaths, a 51-year-old woman and a 20-year-old man, from the brain-eating amoeba. - Yeah.
What's the amoeba doing in the salt water to begin with?
Are they saying that there's a bunch of amoebas in the British water system?
Is that what you're telling us?
Louisiana water.
Oh, it's in Louisiana.
I thought this was England.
No, it's a British report.
Oh.
Yeah.
It is thought the amoeba entered their brain when they used the devices.
Oh.
Both victims are thought to have used tap water instead of distilled or sterilized water, as recommended by the manufacturer.
So the water in Louisiana is filled with amoebas, is that what they're saying?
No, it's filled with brain-eating amoebas.
Brain-eating amoebas.
Not any old amoeba.
No, no, it's the brain-eating amoeba.
A brain-eating amoeba.
I love the PR world, don't you?
The PR world is just great.
Anyway, it was bound to happen, and we've been tracking it.
Department of Justice has now released their report, released Friday, December 16, 2011.
Department of Justice examines the impact of bullying in schools.
Oh, yes.
Wait, before we leave the brain-eating amoeba story, this is actually, it's called the, let's see how it's pronounced.
It has a word, yeah.
It's the Natgillera faleri, also known as the brain-eating amoeba, is a free-living, excavate form of protist.
Typically found in warm bodies of fresh water such as lakes, ponds, rivers, and hot springs.
It's also found in soil near warm water discharges of industrial plants and unchlorinated swimming pools and in an amoeboid or temporary flagellate stage.
There's no evidence of this organism living in ocean water.
It belongs to a group, which means the salt water would probably kill it.
It belongs to a group called percolazoa or...
Heterobosea, although not a true amoeba, the organism is often referred to as an amoeba for convenience.
It's not really an amoeba.
What is it then?
Well, it's some sort of a flage.
It's a little bacterial thing with legs, kind of little things that move it along.
Described a disease.
In 1965, the work on the amoeba provided how protozoa can affect it.
It's a protozoa.
They've affected both in a free environment and in a human host.
It can get in and live in you.
I don't know.
I'm going to have to read more about this thing now.
Apparently, you can get it.
So I'm looking at this article about the brain-eating amoeba written by Claire Bates.
And so I'm looking at other articles by Claire Bates.
Forget a warm cup of cocoa.
Drinking cherry juice twice a day will give you 39 minutes of extra rest.
Boy, she's just a PR agent, isn't she?
Obviously.
Our daughter died from fatal blood clot just hours after doctor sent her home with antibiotics, say grieving parents.
So that's a hit job on some antibiotics.
Flu jab gave our six-year-old son narcolepsy.
Boy slept for up to 19 hours a day after reaction to vaccine.
Well, of course, that actually happened.
My, how you've grown world's smallest babies saved by same doctor 15 years apart.
What an idiot.
She's a total medical shill.
Yeah, well, that's what you do when you're writing that kind of thing.
Stopping smoking doesn't make you more stressed, say successful quitters.
Oh, wow.
Anyway.
You want to hear the Department of Justice?
Department of Justice.
These are people who make up laws.
They're the ones who enforce laws.
They don't make them up.
Right.
I'm sorry.
They enforce laws, but apparently they do studies.
And they're very concerned about bullying in school.
Oh, they have to be.
Would you like to hear an excerpt from the report?
I'm on pins and needles.
Bullying is a complex social and emotional problem impacting children in schools.
In extreme cases, victims face shooting, physical assaults, and other harassment that may cause them to turn to suicide.
Boy, bullying sure has a...
If you get shot, this is not bullying, this is assault.
No, of course it's not, but this is what's so cool.
That's it?
Well, no, there's a lot more.
I mean, parents in schools across the country worry about the devastating harm bullying can cause, and we share this concern for our nation's children.
This is the acting administrator of the Department of Justice Division that did this study.
Yeah, I'm with you on this one.
It's just a freedom of speech attack.
So I've got a couple of clips here that might change the mood a little bit.
First, if you want something funny.
Yeah, sure.
Kimmel did his thing.
He does this about once every two or three months called...
Unnecessary censorship, where if you just kind of bleep stuff, you know, in a well...
Oh, really?
One of these again?
But I'm telling you what, I'm not going to play it.
No, let's play it now.
Let people complain.
No, let's play it.
Set it up.
Anyway, they just beeped stuff, and it has its moments of humor.
Censorship.
But tonight, we're going beyond the week to look back at a whole year of unintentional filth.
And here it is this year in unnecessary censorship 2011.
I've told leaders of both parties that they must come up with a fair compromise in the next few days that can pass both houses of Congress.
And a c*** that I can c***.
A deep sea diver from here in Southern California says he wants to c*** the body of Osama Bin Laden.
I said, if she can c*** that c*** and call that sexual harassment, fine.
I didn't really even think about it.
We're too busy f***ing and choking each other.
I'm from Colorado, so I know that prison, and pretty good d***s, I gotta tell you.
Is there anything that men think of?
Really?
Really?
Right now, I want to give you the biggest b***h you ever got.
You realize that you're f***ed up about Paul Revere, don't you?
There's nothing like flying cross-country with a hot dog in your f***y.
735.
Allie.
Recently, my partner and I have opened the city's premier blow-s*** bar and vanity lounge.
What are you going to do for us this evening?
We are going to f*** each other.
Pretty nice d***s, huh?
Very large.
Well, Donner, where's the new member of the family?
After all, if he's going to f*** my f*** someday, he'd better get to know me.
And finally, make sure you the host of the party before you leave and follow up with a hand.
No one goes over my bridge unless you my.
Don't worry, Red Mooster.
We can s*** his s***.
Well, you help us s*** the grumpy old children.
To me.
We had a good trouble.
We had a good trouble.
So I was watching a bunch of stuff they had on C-SPAN.
They had Merkel being translated, talking to the Bundes, to her own people.
And I've come to the conclusion that she's actually clinically insane.
The Bundes people?
Did you see this thing, by the way?
But I like how you say, the Bundes people.
The Bundes people.
That's her government.
Yeah, the Bundes people.
So, she is either deluded...
Oh, you think?
Or she's completely insane and she doesn't know what's up ahead.
There is nobody that would agree with what she says.
It's a clip, it's not too long, but it's part of an hour-long speech she gave where everything in the EU is just great.
We have a huge consensus to pursue the reforms and the latest data that we have from Portugal are quite encouraging in terms of the deficit.
In Greece, they are working on a bipartisan way to fulfill their duty to strengthen their finances.
Italy, a few days ago, has taken huge reforms and they have strengthened their objective to have a balanced budget by 2013.
And I've talked with the future Prime Minister of Spain and he assured me again that in Spain they're going to pursue the reforms that were planned in the last government.
Even the members that are not yet members of the Euro have made huge efforts on their side in order to contribute to this new structure.
Let's not forget that it is the citizens who are going to have to make huge efforts.
We are asking a lot for them.
They do that so that their countries and the Eurozone in general will be more stable.
and they deserve all our thanks and respect.
Yay!
Is that, I was just like, what?
Is this woman on the same planet?
This is very interesting you bring this up.
I have a clip that I didn't know if I wanted to play it or not because there's some length to it.
But I think this may be appropriate because we've been talking about how crazy these people are.
You know, Michelle Bachman.
Yes, totally Angela Merkel.
There's this guy, and the full video is long, but I have a link to it in the show notes at 366.nashownotes.com.
And he is down on Occupy Wall Street, and he's talking about Occupy the Psychopaths.
And he has a book...
He didn't write it, but it's a book apparently that has been suppressed for 50 years and now finally is available in print called Political Poneurology.
Have you ever heard of Poneurology?
No.
I actually didn't look it up.
Let me see what Poneurology means.
Consult a book of knowledge.
Yes, indeed.
We have to do that.
Consult a book of knowledge.
And it's P-O-N-E-R-O-L-O-G-Y. The Science of Evil.
And it's written by a guy named Andrew Lobewski.
Loboszewski.
I guess a Polish guy.
Loboszewski.
It's got to be Zewski.
Well, Z-E-W-S-K-I. Yeah, Zewski.
Loboszewski.
I'll just play this, and when you've heard enough of him, you tell me when to stop.
But he's being interviewed, and they have some dramatic music behind him, of course.
But it's very interesting.
I've already procured a copy.
I cannot wait to read this, because essentially he's saying, they are insane.
They are psychopaths, and this is not new.
We just need to know how to recognize it so we can fight it.
Basically the reason I come down here every so often is I try to spread information about psychopathy.
And I think it has an overarching impact on why people are down here camping out.
Are you hearing the music only in the left channel?
My speakers are in such a position when I'm doing the show that I don't know what channel is, if there's a channel issue.
Oh, hold on a second.
Let me see if I can monoize this.
It's fine.
No, no, it's not fine.
To you?
It's like completely, no, it's completely wrong.
Okay, well then mono it.
Yeah, I'm trying to find a way to mono that.
Here's your button.
Unfortunately, there's no button here.
Oh, well.
Okay, we'll just have to live with it then.
And why the financial industry and the government really doesn't care about the people anymore.
These people, they're about 1-5% of the population, and they have no concept of empathy, remorse, guilt, conscience.
They're just not biologically capable of it.
And they've shown this in MRI studies, and there's been a lot of actual heart science that proves the point that they're totally different than normal humans.
There's also been a lot of research done by this one guy, Andrew Lubaszewski, in Poland, who shows how they are able to infect and co-op large groups of people, governments, and religious institutions.
That's why I brought this book, because he talks all about it, and he shows, scientifically, how it happens.
Each step of the way.
And I feel that these people in the financial industries especially, they're able to rape and pillage resources from the people without having any concept of how it affects others because they can't conceptualize that.
It's just not within their range of capabilities.
And when we see institutions like the Catholic Church and how they handle pedophilia, for example, it's another instance of that type of consciousness, remorseless being infecting and taking over a large group and effectively distorting what the original remorseless being infecting and taking over a large group and effectively distorting what the original purpose of the And these people, they've probably been with us since humanity evolved.
We've never really had any scientific understanding of them or conceptualization of them.
Okay, that's good.
And it's probably where our ideas of vampires come from.
Vampires.
So, uh...
So, that's bull crap because the books Snakes in Suits and other books about the psychopaths that are running corporations and the sociopaths that are running a lot of large businesses is not new to anybody.
So, he's making it sound as though this guy's discovered something that no one's ever picked up on, but he may be early on it.
But is that a book you're recommending, Snakes in Suits?
Yeah, Snakes in Suits is quite good.
There's actually two books by the same guy.
Snakes in Suits is quite good, and I don't have them handy, so I can't tell you what the other one is, but it's something similar.
If you look it up on Amazon, you see the other book, which is probably even better.
Okay.
But I do believe that...
You do believe?
The fact of the matter is that these people are psychopaths.
Yeah?
Yeah.
And I think Merkel's obviously one of them.
Merkel, Sarkozy.
Sarkozy for sure.
Totally.
Psychopath.
David Cameron's got to be a psychopath.
Yeah.
I think our president is too dumb to be a psychopath.
I think his wife might be.
Oh, man, I have a clip from her.
People keep sending me clips of her.
Every day there's a new clip.
Yes, here's a little one.
You come on up.
you cursed rat look what you've done I'm melting melting the ball the ball every day there's a new clip I'm not.
Yeah, yeah, that's her.
That's our first lady, ladies and gentlemen.
On a side note, I do have another clip before we wrap.
It's from, I was watching, I actually got a couple of things.
I was watching Free Speech and Link TV a lot.
And Link TV is interesting because this guy who's on there, he's an investigative reporter whose name eludes me at the moment, but he came up with, they were blasting PBS, calling it the Petroleum Broadcasting System.
Yeah.
Oh, that's good.
I like that.
That was quite creative because, you know, it's always...
It's Chevron.
It seems to pay for everything.
BP. BP also pays for stuff.
And BP. In fact, I do have a BP commercial.
This is the Gulf Bullcrap ad that BP is running on.
Everyone that will take this ad, they're running it.
At the very end, it says BP. And all you have to do is listen to the commercial.
This is not the thing I was leading to, but I might as well get this commercial out of the way.
This is...
You know, how great it is in the Gulf.
And this is the whole commercial.
I only had a small clip of it before, but this is just total bull crap.
This was the Gulf's best tourism season in years.
All because so many people came to Louisiana.
They came to see us in Florida.
Make that Alabama.
Make that Mississippi.
The best part of the Gulf is wherever you choose.
And now's a great time to discover it.
This year, millions of people did.
We set all kinds of records.
Next year, we're out to do even better.
So come on down.
To Louisiana.
Florida.
Alabama.
Mississippi.
We can't wait to see you.
Brought to you by BP and all of us who call the Gulf home.
Someone in the chat room also said pharmaceutical broadcasting system would also fit well.
And before you get into your point, very important to note that when you're watching PBS, our national public broadcasting system in the United States, and they have ads by GE, by Pfizer, by...
By the oil companies.
That is not to advertise a product to you.
There is no product they're selling.
They're just saying, well, we bring good things to life or whatever.
That is to ensure the power they have over the reporting on PBS. Hey, you're running some nasty stuff about us, boss.
We have to pull our advertising dollars.
That's how it works.
That is the system.
And it works well.
They have a much bigger budget than we do.
Yeah, you think?
So I'm watching this thing on Free Speech TV called End Colon Civ.
It's a really loose documentary about...
I don't even know what it's about.
You can look it up and try to figure out what it's about.
If you watch it, you can't figure it out.
But there was one part of it that I thought was interesting, which was they're talking about essentially...
Out of the blue, they bring out what it seems to be the second stage of the Occupy movement.
It's like we did the first stage.
We were passive.
We went out of our way not to be violent.
We did all these crazy things to make sure that we could show how evil the system was.
And you can see it by the bug spraying episode at UC Davis.
There's a second stage, which is now the violent stage, which is now going to show up next.
It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
But if you play Revolutionary's Part 2, these are just some casual comments that certain people were making that is in this movie that the left is listening to.
Obviously that persuasion hasn't worked, and persuasion is not going to work.
We want to be...
Successful, then we have to look at what resistance movements in the past have done and what they've learned.
Who is this guy talking?
Can I consult a little bit of knowledge in the meantime?
They just have a bunch of these experts in a row yakking about this, but it was the message that seemed to be more important.
I'll shut up.
I want to listen.
The different phases that they've gone through as they've tried to assert themselves and try to be successful.
When I say organized political resistance, I mean that we need to face power head on.
Once you name power, you will find that power is sociopathic, that the people in charge will do whatever it takes to shut you up.
The thing about when you enter into a period of social conflict, what you don't want is people promoting non-violence because that's going to disarm the people.
It's going to disarm the people in the face of an aggressive enemy and in the face of hard social conditions.
You want them to have a stronger fighting spirit because without a fighting spirit, you lack the will to resist.
The smartest thing the Nazis did was they made it so that at every step of the way it was in the Jews' rational best interest to not resist.
Would you rather get an ID card, or do you want to resist and possibly get killed?
Do you want to move to a ghetto, or do you want to resist and possibly get killed?
Do you want to get on a cattle car, or do you want to resist and possibly get killed?
Do you want to take a shower, or do you want to resist and possibly get killed?
At every step of the way, it was in their rational self-interest to not resist.
But I'll tell you something very important, which is the Jews that participated in the War Sankado uprising had a higher rate of survival than those who went along.
I think if any of us were alive in Nazi Germany right now, we would know what a resistance movement should be doing.
And we need to think about the culture of industrial civilization as if it's a culture of occupation.
Because it is.
Now, I'm conflicted about this.
This, by the way, I wanted to play just so our listeners who are on top of everything can now see where this is going next.
Oh, yeah.
What's your conflict?
Confrict.
Confrict.
Well, I'm conflicted because I want to see this thing now because I'm not sure if it's propaganda or if it's...
Oh, it's propaganda.
Well, you know how you get the propagandas.
You can hear...
You know, would you rather get on the train or take the plane?
You tell me.
Don't disarm the people.
Let's try this one.
I'm conflicted by all this, John.
When someone plays the Hitler card, it's always very difficult, particularly when they have the very, very depressing music in the background.
And I just don't feel good anymore about life.
I think it's time to stand up against them.
You know what I mean?
It's like...
Yeah, no, well, the movie is called NCIV, E-N-D colon S-C-I-V, and it's on...
And NCIV.com is a website that has it.
You can watch the whole thing.
It's on YouTube.
It's around, and they showed it on Free Speech TV, and it is a...
It's new, and it's something of a manifesto.
Or maybe it's not that new, because I think it showed up in the last part of last year, but it's going around.
How do you spell that again?
After Occupy is over.
I want to put it in the show notes.
How do you spell it again?
ENDCIV.com Okay.
And it's now going around.
This has become a meme opportunity.
And the messaging in there is like, it's code.
And I suspect that there's going to be some interesting stuff that falls out from this.
And everyone that listens to our show, and I encourage them to continue donating and helping us.
Give me that website again.
Endciv.com.
Oh, C-I-V dot com.
I just want to put that in the show notes.
Oh, wow.
So, anyway, it's just a heads up.
You know, you can take it or leave it.
I, of the opinion, should avoid these conflicts.
Fricked.
But this will be fun to watch.
I think it'll be good for our good material.
We'll get some good material out of it.
We'll get to watch the psychopaths go after, you know, common citizens.
It won't be fun, but it won't be entertaining, actually, either.
It'll be kind of...
Kind of depressing.
But we're on top of it.
It's the end of times, really.
We're on top of it.
Let me just see who owns this.
Let's see.
N-Civ.
Registered through GoDaddy.
Franklin Lopez.
Submedia.
Lopez is the director of the movie.
Okay.
And he doesn't have a wiki page, so I figure he's, I don't know who he is.
It looks good.
It looks like it's professionally done.
Very slick, which bothers me.
Yeah.
Is there anything about, let me see, Paul, oh, Paul Watson.
Oh, okay.
Paul Watson is an Alex Jones guy.
Okay, that makes sense.
Yeah, that does make sense, doesn't it?
Well, that makes sense for a couple of things.
One is the professional quality of it.
The quality is usually pretty good.
But I'm thinking a little COINTELPRO here is in play.
Yeah, I'm not liking that too much.
No, I don't...
There's something creepy about the whole thing, but like I said, it's just a heads up.
I was reading the Ulsterman report.
You know, he has the Washington Insider and the Wall Street Insider.
And the Wall Street Insider...
And I happen to think that these guys are real.
And they, of course, have their own agenda and their own messaging.
But they're talking about the guy, Leo Girard, who was the big powerhouse behind all of this.
And Leo Girard is the president...
I think he...
He's like the most powerful guy in all the unions, but I think he's the president of the United Steelworkers Union.
What's his name again?
Leo Girard.
G-I-R-A-R-D? G-E-R-A-D, I think.
Leo Girard.
And he looks like a total Chicago mobster.
But this guy, he's the guy that was pushing the employer...
What is it?
The employee...
The thing that they held back the FAA bill for.
The union vote.
Employee union vote.
Oh, that thing it's called, I forgot what it's called, but it's where you force people to show their hand when they vote.
Yeah, and even if they don't show up, you have a union.
I can't remember the name of that.
What is the name?
Somebody in the chat room knows.
Yeah, it's the Equal Vote something or other.
It had a better name than that.
But anyway, the point behind the Wall Street Insider is that that is the...
Of course, we know that unions have all this.
Employee Free Choice Act.
Thank you very much, Enumerate.
Employee Free Choice Act.
Yeah, which is no free choice.
No.
And of course, Obama was way into supporting that, even when he was running for president.
That this is where all the power is coming from.
And of course, we know the Occupy movement has been co-opted by the unions.
Immediately.
Yeah.
And that we have to keep a real sharp eye on this guy.
That Trumka is way below him, apparently.
I don't know.
It's like...
That's a real conspiracy theory, but I'm thinking there's definitely something to it.
There's a lot of, like, whoa, really?
So, that's a good one, John.
I'll watch that this afternoon.
End Civ.
I like that.
Just on a parting note here...
Something very interesting which got no play at all.
Do you remember the Marine that got decorated with the Medal of Honor by the President, Dakota Meyer?
This is the guy who then blew the whistle on his current employer, and then he said, oh, he's drunk and insane.
Remember that?
Yeah, we talked about this a little while ago.
Right.
Well, it gets better.
Now, the Washington Post, obviously a co-opted news service, duh, comes out with this.
Apparently, there's a problem with his medal.
Crucial parts that the Marine Corps publicized and Obama described are untrue, unsubstantiated, or exaggerated.
Now they're going to take away his Medal of Honor.
They're saying that it was a lie.
He didn't deserve the Medal of Honor.
So Dakota Meyer filed a lawsuit against his former employee, defense contractor BAE Systems, which is Airbus.
Alleging the company, only it's probably the American version, we have an Airbus subsidiary, Georgia somewhere.
Alleging the company is superior there, punished him for opposing a weapon sale to Pakistan.
Meyer is suing defense contractor BAE Systems, OASYS, Inc.
says he ridiculed That says he ridiculed his Medal of Honor.
I'm sure he did.
Called him mentally unstable and suggested he had a drinking problem.
Right.
Now they say he didn't even deserve the Medal of Honor.
You know, the Medal of Honor is not given out casually.
There's a lot of research that goes into the Medal of Honor.
It's not like, you know, well, here's a guy.
Let's just give him the Medal of Honor.
That's not the way it works.
So this is bull.
Of course it's bull.
It's a total two-to-the-head hit job.
It's disgusting.
It's disgusting.
Yeah, it's totally disgusting.
You don't take away somebody's medal of honor because they're a whistleblower, essentially.
That's exactly what they do, my friend.
That's exactly what they do.
Say it's not true, Mr.
Adams.
Say it's not true, Mr.
Adams.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I have to say it so...
Then just a couple things that I'm just following for y'all.
By the way, the guy also has a Purple Heart Navy Commendation Medal, Navy Achievement Medal in a Combat Action.
Clearly he's insane.
He's insane and a drunk.
God, I hate these psychopaths.
Ex-Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bosses charge with fraud, so there's your patsies.
They'll go down.
Ex-Auto Czar Ratner, remember him?
Oh, yeah.
He came out in a recent book, and he says, well, it looks like we're going to lose about $14 billion on that GM financing we did.
Not such a good idea.
Yeah.
We're going to lose $14 billion.
$14 billion.
Yeah.
And he also said the $19.4 billion the government put into GM before the 2009 bankruptcy has definitely lost money.
So what is that?
Wait a minute.
This doesn't make any sense.
We were told they paid it all back in full.
That's what Obama said.
Yeah, it's the truce.
It's the truce.
Obama said they paid it back in full.
Yeah, we made money on the deal.
It's the truce.
Net euro short position soared to all-time record, implying fair value of the euro at $1.20.
It's still high.
Oh, no, it's way too high, but it's been dipping below the magical $1.30 mark, so keep an eye on that.
It's really worth about $0.95 to a buck or five.
I'm with you on the $0.80.
I think that's much closer to reality.
It's been $0.80, and when it was $0.80, everything was fine.
Everybody was happy.
Yeah, well, we'll get back there.
And then tied into Fast and Furious, now, oh man, there's some good stuff here.
This is from a separate Freedom of Information Act lawsuit brought against the Department of Justice by Salt Lake City Attorney Jesse Trentadu.
Remember the name, because he'll be dead soon.
He now is in possession of documents that say the following.
The Oklahoma City bombing had aspects of being an FBI sting operation that went out of control.
Eric Holder had authorized the FBI to provide explosives to Terry Nichols and Timothy McVeigh then lost track of both the explosives and their targets.
McVeigh went on to detonate some of the explosives outside the Federal Building, an act that was designed to help anti-terrorism legislation pass Congress, of course.
After the bombing, when the FBI learned the location of the explosives, Holder reportedly sent emails to FBI agents ordering them to recover the explosives before they could be found by some other branch of government.
What?
Where did this story crop up?
Let me find the American Free Press.
Let me see.
I don't know what that is.
American Free Press.
Oh, yeah.
AFP. Hmm.
I don't know.
It says that there are FOIA documents, so that would be emails, I guess.
Shortly after the bombing, Kenneth Trenton-Due, that's the guy who requested the documents, a government informant was murdered.
Oh, Kenneth, that's his brother, was murdered in his prison cell, I guess.
Whoa.
His family has been pursuing legal action against the federal government ever since.
In 2001, in a bid to avoid a full release of documents, the Federal Bureau of Prisons paid a settlement of $1.1 million to several members of Trenton-Due's family, but his brother refused to drop the investigation, filed an FOIA lawsuit for the missing documents, That suit has been ongoing in Salt Lake City Federal Courthouse.
Whoa.
So we've got to follow this.
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So that's where we get a lot of our great information from, from our producers.
And then we have that crazy thing I pulled off your blog, Department of Homeland Security promo video about using cash.
Yeah.
Should I play that?
Yeah.
It's kind of funny.
Terrorists and criminals do their best to cover their tracks.
This may include paying in cash or using false identification.
Hang on a second.
Let me call you back.
What's up, Suzanne?
I have this guest who wants to stay for a few weeks and wants to pay in advance in cash.
Cash?
No.
Cash is money, last time I checked.
What's the problem?
Did you ask him for a credit card?
Yeah, I did.
He said he doesn't have one.
He doesn't use them?
No credit cards?
How about an ID? He gave me one.
It just doesn't feel right.
Well, everyone's normal until they check into a hotel.
I guess it's not a problem.
It's just weird.
Okay, we have everything checked out then.
That's for you.
If your interaction with the patron feels odd, if that person appears nervous or anxious, refuses to show ID, if the ID seems to be altered, or if the guest insists on paying with cash for sums that are customarily charged and refuses to show a credit card, alert your manager or security personnel.
This is suspicious behavior.
And I have to agree with that public service announcement.
I think anyone who is involved in cash transactions is more than likely a terrorist.
We just need cash.
I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
Just send your cash.
A punchline!
Yeah!
Woo!
Finishing the show on an upbeat note.
Ha ha!
So we will be doing a show on Thursday.
Yeah, that'll be our last show until the next Thursday.
Yeah.
We're going to take Christmas off with the clip show.
Yeah, well, that's not really taken off because...
It's not taken off.
Extra work.
In fact, I haven't finished the clip show yet, and I've got to put the douchebag clips in there.
And I'm still working on it, but it'll be done for Christmas, and it'll be a great thing to listen to.
It'll be just funny.
It's great to huddle around the Christmas tree and grab your eggnog and...
And listen to endless clips.
Endless?
But it's clips of us talking, isn't it?
Or what is it?
No, no.
These are all the clips that we use and they're juxtaposed in such a way that it's quite funny.
Ah, you created a script.
So you have like Lucifer saying human rights and then we came, we saw he died and stuff like that?
Yeah, I don't have that one because I didn't use any clips from this year.
These are all old clips.
But you'll see.
You know, it's just an hour of pure entertainment.
Two hours.
Two hours.
Bed bugs.
And remember, I was listening to the clip showing this.
Remember the last, not this July, but the July before, that the North Koreans were going to blow up Hawaii?
And we had to bring the ships in there just in case.
Oh, okay.
So this is actually a show.
Oh, this is very good.
So you can have your family listen because you won't hear us crackpotting and buzzkilling.
And they'll be like, hey, that didn't happen.
Hey, that was bullcrap.
Hey, what's up with that?
They say, this is the show I'm telling you about.
This is the one you've got to listen to.
Right?
Yep.
Okay.
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In the morning, everybody, I am Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I had some sort of a lead-in commentary the last time, but I forgot what it is already, I'm John C. Dvorak.
We will talk to you again on Thursday, right here on No Agenda.
Yes, here's a little one.
You come on up.
Ah!
You cursed rat!
Look what you've done!
I'm melting!
Melting!
Ah!
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