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	Study shows 38.2% of the European Union populace has mental problems.
	Well, you can see why.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, October 6th, 2011.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination.
	Episode 345.
	This is no agenda.
	Packing up the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center.
	Counting down the days here in the People's Republic of Southern California.
	In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I was just clearing my throat, I never actually said hit it.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	I know.
	I was trying to time it with your throat flammage and hit it.
	For people who don't know, there's a lot of fun stuff that happens before we actually start the show on the stream.
	And that's stuff that just doesn't get recorded.
	Actually, it does get recorded.
	I think sometimes people release it.
	The sound, the dulcet tones of the professional slide whistle this morning brought to you by my partner and colleague, Jean-Claude Devorak.
	In the morning, John.
	In the morning to you, Adam Curry, and all ships at sea in the morning, and all the boots on the ground, and beets in the ground, and feet in the air.
	I pulled some beets up last night.
	Yeah, and tomatoes upside down, yeah.
	And in the morning to the human resources who have showed up loyally, waiting for your hit-it there in the chat room, noagendachat.net, noagendastream.com, where we are always streaming our program live, Thursday and Sunday mornings.
	It's the No Agenda Show, the best podcast in the universe!
	Unreliably informed.
	Yeah, I think it's true.
	Apparently it's not saying much.
	What do you mean?
	I guess there's not that many good podcasts.
	Well, you know, when we started, it's like all things on the internet.
	Anyone can do it, and then there's going to be a few good, and the rest will suck.
	It's just what it is.
	Yeah, most suck, actually.
	Yeah, that's true.
	John, I'm a little off balance today.
	You just got back from a long trip.
	Yeah, well, not a very long trip.
	It's actually surprisingly short to get there.
	Two and a half hour flight.
	Oh, it's like going from...
	Oh, that's commuter time.
	That's short.
	In fact, we flew on an RJ, on a regional jet.
	I was surprised.
	It's like a little hop.
	We went to Austin.
	What RJ were you in?
	It was the Canadair.
	Canadair RJ. Oh.
	Which is...
	It's modern, but it has no entertainment system, of course.
	Yeah, and they're cramped.
	No, not cramped, but there is no way to actually sleep.
	Yeah, the seat goes back.
	If you push the button, it goes back like one inch.
	No, it goes back further than some 7 series I've been on.
	Why would you want to sleep as a two-and-a-half-hour flight?
	Well, we came back yesterday morning.
	We took a 6.30 a.m.
	flight.
	Oh.
	Because Mickey had an appointment here in Los Angeles.
	And so you get in at 7.30, which is kind of nice.
	We also wanted to try and miss the traffic, which was foiled due to torrential rainstorms.
	And when it rains in Southern California, it's like everyone takes a big stupid pill.
	That's the same.
	To some extent, that's the same up here.
	But I know down there, the rain is like they're baffled by it.
	What the heck?
	Although we've had a lot of rain this year.
	It's been pretty outrageous.
	So, tell us about Austin.
	We're moving to Austin.
	That's what you say.
	No, we have signed a lease.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	You're good to go.
	We're good to go.
	November 15th.
	November 15th.
	We're out, yeah.
	That doesn't give me much time to get down there.
	What do you mean?
	Oh, please.
	You're not coming down here.
	It doesn't matter.
	You'll come to Austin.
	I'll see you at South by Southwest or whatever.
	I'll go to that.
	We went over.
	We looked at, I don't know, like 15, 20 homes.
	And by the way, real estate prices are very, very affordable.
	And of course, it was beautiful.
	It was 85 degrees.
	It was fantastic.
	Blue sky.
	Couldn't have been any better.
	And then we walked into a ranch, and we both went, okay, this is it.
	This is what we want.
	We want a ranch.
	You know, like a three-acre.
	Does it have a barn?
	It had a barn.
	But here's the problem.
	We walk in, we're like, okay, we'll take it.
	It had just been leased like a half hour before that.
	And this was the first day.
	So the second day, we're like, okay, ranches are not easy, certainly to lease.
	And what you really want to do is you want to either get a piece of land and build something yourself, or it's hard to find the exact right property.
	Or you might want to get a fixer-upper or something like that.
	Hello?
	Yes, hello?
	Can you still hear me?
	John?
	Hello?
	Hello?
	I hear you.
	Do you hear me?
	Okay, you're back, I think.
	I hear you.
	Yeah, no, what happens is there's something wrong with my sound device thing, and when I close this box, it mutes the speaker for some unknown reason.
	Sorry.
	Anyway, go on about the property thing.
	I'll just leave it open.
	So we're saying that...
	We really like the idea of a ranch.
	We think that's the direction we want to go.
	It had a good feel for us.
	Just an open space.
	You could shoot prairie dogs.
	You could shoot all kinds of dogs.
	All kinds of stuff.
	Now, it's very hard to find a ranch for lease, but it was reaffirmed for us that we definitely want to be in Austin.
	And then we found a place which we're going to lease for a year.
	And that year will, A, help us determine that we made the right move, and B, help us find the right place.
	Because it's going to take a little bit longer to find the perfect ranch and whatever we want to do.
	And we found a great place.
	Just awesome.
	Twice the size of what we have now, 60% of the price.
	That sounds good.
	Yeah.
	And there's a room for you.
	Is there a garage for a car?
	Not only that, it's kind of a crazy place.
	I think it was a...
	Is it haunted?
	Yes, of course.
	Oh, good.
	By ex-playmates.
	There is a room that has no windows, a stained concrete floor, and air conditioning.
	It's like, I walk in and I'm like...
	It's a prison cell.
	Yeah!
	No, it's the studio!
	Oh yeah, until they lock you in.
	It's a built-in studio.
	It was perfect.
	So we fly home, we're all like, okay, and of course they have to do the credit check and all that, and I'm like, oh, that's going to suck.
	You know how that goes.
	And I hadn't even had a chance to tell our current landlord, and they had already contacted her.
	Like, oops.
	So I guess she knows.
	But she was nice.
	Yeah, they're very nice people.
	Always pay on time.
	Perfect.
	So yeah, we're picking up.
	We're moving out November 15th.
	So how are you going to get all your stuff down there?
	What do you mean?
	You put it in a truck and you move it.
	Oh, is that how it works?
	Yeah, we don't have all that much stuff.
	And to be quite honest, what I'm seeing happening around here in these parts...
	Did you check the internet connection for that area?
	Yeah, well, unfortunately, it's Time Warner, but they do have the high-speed...
	Is that what you have now?
	Yeah, so that's kind of unfortunate.
	Well, at least it's the same thing.
	Yeah, I'm not a big fan, but yeah, Time Warner.
	Of course it was...
	Did I check that?
	Yes, of course.
	It's like, great house.
	Let me see if my cell phone works.
	Yes, that works.
	You got internet here?
	So yeah, it's going to be perfect.
	And it's up in the Lake Travis area, which is beautiful.
	Absolutely beautiful.
	So yeah, we're just as surprised, I guess, as you are.
	Do you have the address?
	Yes, I do.
	Would you like me to give it on the show?
	Well, you can Skype it to me.
	I'm going to go to Google and I'm going to look at the place.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	I hadn't actually thought about that.
	I just have to open up the browser here.
	So while that's taking place...
	What, are you Skyping me something here?
	I'm just responding to your two notes earlier.
	Oh.
	Yeah, I was like, hello, can you hear me?
	You responded to that, really?
	That's great.
	Yes, machine is real slow.
	I'll get it to you as soon as I can.
	Hey, by the way, talking about slow.
	We have so many technical guys out there.
	What is the deal?
	This has happened.
	We've done it on the show, and it happened to me last night.
	I'm trying to surf the net, and it's just like everything's like...
	Google's pretty quick, but everything else is sluggish, and my email's not working, and the sites wouldn't load, and PayPal wouldn't come up.
	Really?
	So I said, okay, because I have a brand new one of the top-end routers.
	Oh, that would be it.
	So I rebooted the router, and boom, I've got 26 down and 6 up.
	Oh, I can tell you what that is.
	So do you have other machines on this router, and you transfer big files between them?
	No.
	Oh, no?
	Well, then I don't know.
	I've had it happen here.
	I put a switch in between all my machines and then everything was perfect.
	It all ended.
	Just needed a switch.
	Well, whatever the case is, what is going on that does this?
	And why would I have to reset the router?
	It's ridiculous.
	It's called buffer overflow.
	Why?
	Why can't the router say, hey, look, this isn't good.
	Let me reset the buffer.
	I mean, give me a break.
	I don't know.
	It's because it's cheap stuff.
	It's not that cheap.
	Anyway, I just find it annoying to have to do that.
	Okay, I have the address.
	You have the coordinates.
	I have the coordinates.
	I'm trying to...
	Are you Skyping them to me?
	Yeah, no, I'm going to Skype it to you.
	Hold on a second.
	Let me just get this link.
	You may have to...
	This is probably not the link that shows you everything.
	I don't know.
	It's just...
	You can then take a look yourself.
	You get that?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay, we can go on from there.
	Right.
	So, yeah, but I'm actually, you know, once again confirmed, everyone's so nice.
	Oh, you know, we had dinner at the Bend on the Hudson.
	Or Hudson-on-the-Bend, I think it is.
	Is that the place that serves a game?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I had elk.
	Yeah.
	I've been there once.
	Yeah, they smoke in their own smokehouse, and they rub it with, like, coffee grinds and chocolate and...
	And actually, Mickey had a trout fed on shrimp, so it's kind of a pinkish color on the inside.
	And they bake it in a breading of pepper flakes and corn flakes, which is just outstanding.
	Yeah, so good.
	Yeah, well, there's good eating down there, that much I can assure you.
	Okay, the thing I sent you has a couple of pictures, I think.
	You got a bunch of pictures in here.
	Is this the place?
	Yeah, that's the place.
	Wow.
	Nice.
	It's cool, right?
	Yeah, this is better than the place you have.
	Duh.
	I'm telling you, it's twice as big.
	And it's cheaper by a lot.
	No, but it's like 40% cheaper.
	Absolutely.
	You probably could have got him down.
	Who says I didn't?
	Come on.
	You don't know Nicky well enough, do you?
	Anyway, so we're very, very excited and I'm very happy because I think everything's going to hell in a handbasket here in California.
	Yeah, I think so too.
	There's going to be riots on the streets.
	You watch.
	Well, the riots, you know, there's this thing going on in New York which people aren't, even our listeners I don't think are taking seriously because the right-wing talk show, and by the way, if anyone can catch it listening to the stream, catch last night's Jon Stewart show.
	Who I think he did one of the best deconstructions, especially of Sean Hannity.
	They found him quoted saying the exact same thing and then extolling the virtues of the Tea Party.
	Right.
	And then saying the exact same thing and condemning the Wall Street, Occupy Wall Street folks.
	And the fact of the matter is, and I said it again, whoop.
	I'm kissing myself now.
	This is very important because this actually...
	When you say the fact of the matter, that gives it away that you are a shill.
	Now, I know you're not because I've been married to you long enough.
	I think I thought myself, don't worry about it.
	Yeah, but it's difficult.
	It's challenging.
	It's not that difficult.
	I did it.
	And so, the fact of the matter is...
	See?
	I... Anyway, so Hannity, but it's not just Hannity, it's all these, you have to remember these guys are making millions of dollars and they're representing large corporations no matter how much they want you to believe they're populist, right-wing anythings.
	They're not.
	And the fact, I almost said it again.
	I'm in a groove, I'm in a groove.
	So here's, so one of the things that...
	Wait, I have the Jon Stewart clip if you want me, thank you chat room, if you want me to play it.
	Yeah, you might want to play it.
	It's pretty funny.
	Let me just say what it is.
	I think some of our clips are too long.
	Yeah, I agree.
	So let me just say that it seems as if these guys were actually honest with themselves.
	They would see this Occupy Wall Street thing as a great anti-Obama leveraging point.
	Because it's embarrassing to the president.
	He's got nothing to do with the Republican Party or anything these guys are shilling for.
	So why don't they take it as such, instead of coming up with all this stuff to defend bankers, essentially?
	Because, John, we know that Fox is run by the Democrats as well, and this entire movement is now completely being co-opted by the Obama administration.
	Completely.
	They've got the unions in.
	It's almost complete.
	I have one clip.
	I mean, I have a whole bunch, if you want.
	But Al Sharpton resists with much.
	He gets a shill on.
	I was blown away.
	First of all, the guy's in the suit and tie.
	And he's really clean cut.
	And he's supposed to be at this event?
	He's at the event.
	And he says things like, the fact of the matter.
	Yeah.
	By the way, before you play that clip, I want to mention, besides that guy being at the event, your pal, Aaron Burnett.
	Oh, I have that clip, too.
	I've got all those clips.
	Man, I hate her.
	She's not my pal.
	Here's Sharpton.
	Joining me now from lower Manhattan near Wall Street is Harrison Schultz.
	And by the way, I've been trying to find out who Harrison Schultz is.
	There's a Schultz in the White House, so he could be related.
	And we'll be talking about Schultz later.
	There's like a damage control guy, like a Hill and Knowlton guy called Schultz.
	So this is also Schultz.
	One of the organizers of the Occupy Wall Street.
	He's one of the organizers.
	John, they have organizers.
	This is bogus right off the beginning.
	This is unbelievable.
	Al Sharpton has him.
	Al Sharpton has him on.
	He found him.
	One of the organizers.
	And he's got his suit on.
	Harrison, thank you for coming on the show.
	Thank you for having me, Reverend.
	Happy birthday.
	Yeah, every organizer will do that right off the top.
	Happy birthday, Reverend.
	Thank you.
	Tell us a little about the movement that's going on in Wall Street.
	The movement down here is incredibly exciting.
	It's incredibly exhilarating.
	And honestly, in my opinion, as a professional sociologist, I think that this is the beginning of a revolution in this country.
	A revolution going toward what?
	What are the goals?
	I see an excitement.
	I really love the way that there's been discipline and nonviolence, except on the other side.
	But what are the goals?
	When you say a revolution, where are you taking this?
	The fact that we don't have a coherent set of goals is what the media has been blasting us the most for.
	But the fact of the matter is that the problems in this country that this country is going through are very complicated.
	And so the discussion that we're having isn't simple.
	It's a very complicated discussion as well.
	It's a discussion, John.
	It's like Twitter.
	It's a discussion is what it is.
	It's just a discussion.
	Democracy takes time.
	Democracy.
	The conversations that we're having are the conversations that leaders...
	Democracy takes time?
	What is that supposed to mean?
	Democracy takes time?
	Listen to the guy.
	He is propagating Obama's message of jobs and taxing the rich.
	Oh, he doesn't pull that out, does he?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	This is a prepackaged piece.
	...economics and the media should be having, but really aren't.
	So we have to do it ourselves.
	So really you're showing the discontent and trying to force the conversation to have a realistic dialogue about what ought to be the real priorities and the real solutions in this country.
	Yes.
	The best way to look at Occupy Wall Street, in my opinion, is to think of it as a conversation, a big conversation that needs to be had, that the media and that our leaders just aren't having.
	And we're getting into trouble for having these conversations with the NYPD. Now, I notice you've got people from all walks of life, all racial backgrounds.
	But do all of the elements there that are involved from different parts of society, do they all want the same thing?
	Do they want different things?
	It's about having a conversation so everyone can discuss what it is they want.
	The thing that we all want, the thing that we all agree on, in my opinion, and I can only speak from my perspective, is that we're all here for change.
	Oh, change!
	John, it's about change!
	Change!
	Change!
	We all want something different.
	We all want something better.
	As far as the specifics, as far as how we go about doing that, we don't know yet.
	Part of the problem, I think, part of the issue is that a lot of the people that are here are in fact anarchists, are in fact revolutionaries, and putting a revolution, putting a revolutionary change into political terms is very difficult to do.
	Tell me that isn't a Barack Obama supporter, revolutionary change.
	Come on!
	Because we're trying to get away from all the problems, and we don't really want to fix them.
	It's revolution, not reform.
	Harrison Schultz of the Occupy...
	Listen to Al's wrap-up.
	...Wall Street Movement, thanks for coming on the show tonight, and we'll be seeing you.
	Let me say this to a lot of people that have watched this.
	It's easy to dismiss movements.
	It's easy to say, I don't understand the purpose, I don't understand the point.
	The point is, there's a lot of discontent.
	Even if people don't know, as he says, what their formula is to make things right, they do know things are wrong.
	There's something wrong when we see rampant unemployment, yet we want to protect tax loopholes.
	When we see people being put off of roles that are children, when we see poverty hiding in his bed, there are those that will respond different ways.
	We're marching in Washington on October 15th.
	There's Al Sharpton calling for the march on the 15th.
	It's completely organized.
	They're all over the country with occupation Wall Street.
	Labor is moving.
	The real point is that change must come.
	And the only thing that is clear is sitting down doing nothing has gotten us where we are.
	We cannot have, as Martin Luther King said, the paralysis of analysis.
	We must move.
	So, that to me was a complete plant.
	And then Erin Burnett, who of course, she's not the original money honey, but liked her a lot on CNBC and then we found out she was a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and I fell out of love really quickly.
	You are so fickle.
	Yeah, well she has a big butt too.
	I saw her ass and was like, huh.
	She has a segment on her new CNN show called Seriously?
	And this was her Seriously segment.
	Seriously?
	The Occupy Wall Street protest entered its third week today.
	What started as less than a dozen college students camping out in a park near the New York Stock Exchange is now hundreds of protesters.
	And it's spread to other cities.
	But what are they protesting?
	Nobody seems to know.
	So this afternoon, we went to Wall Street to find out.
	And despite what you heard, here's what I saw.
	It's not just a bunch of dancing hippies protesting.
	Listen to her read the prompter, though, where her whole cadence is wrong because she's saying bongos, but she's reading banjos.
	Now, how do you say banjo?
	You say banjo, right?
	Banjo, yeah.
	Yeah, but she's reading the prompter and it comes out banjos.
	There are all kinds of people there.
	Are you going to play that now?
	Yeah.
	Ready?
	Yeah.
	Peace, teachers, cheerleaders, Uncle Sampta, and...
	That.
	Seriously, it's a mixed bag, but they were happy to take some time from their books, banjos, bongos, sports drinks.
	Banjos, banjos, movie prompter.
	Yeah, that's a prompter.
	That's a prompter flub.
	Prompter flub.
	Catered lunch.
	Yeah, that was catered lunch.
	She's horrible.
	Anyway, she goes in and her whole rap is, you know, we made money on the banker bailouts.
	And she gets some stupid idiot to go, really?
	I'll have to go research that.
	Donald Trump had the best line, though.
	When you can't boil down your mission to one sentence, you can't get the same explanation from two protesters.
	Nobody knows why they're protesting, but they have it a good time.
	Well, I said on your show, and it was picked up all over the place, a lot of them are down there for dating purposes.
	It's true.
	They're down there to meet people.
	That's what we said.
	They're down there to pick up chicks.
	That's what we said.
	He's listening to our show.
	It's horrible, man.
	He's stealing our material.
	I hate it when he does that.
	Actually, Ben Bernanke...
	Tim Bernanke, actually, the guy you'd expect to, you know, to really BS, he actually kind of said it, I think.
	Did I just ask you something unrelated?
	This is from C-SPAN, by the way, where he was asked a question in a congressional hearing.
	My time's running out.
	You see, protests are both on the right and the left.
	Right now, the protests that are getting the headlines are on the left in New York.
	What is that protest saying to you?
	What are you hearing from that activity in New York right now?
	Well, I would just say very generally, I think people are quite unhappy with the state of the economy and what's happening.
	They blame with some justification the problems in the financial sector for getting us into this mess.
	And they're dissatisfied with the policy response here in Washington.
	I think that's right.
	it for his own purposes, but...
	Yeah, no, I think he's nailing it.
	Yeah, people are upset with this policy response.
	And at some level, I can't blame them.
	Certainly, 9% unemployment and very slow growth is not a very good situation.
	That's what they're protesting.
	Yeah.
	He says it.
	Right there.
	Exactly.
	I don't understand the right-wingers in particular, and actually to a lesser extent the left-wingers, but mainly the right-wingers, complaining about this.
	I mean, why are they taking the wrong side on this issue?
	I think that they're doing it because they're trying to help Obama stay in office.
	They don't want to run this economy.
	This is your theory.
	They want to lose.
	They want to lose the election.
	Let Obama have him.
	They're going to lose the election if they run that.
	They really keep pushing Perry and he keeps screwing up.
	Here's Herman Cain, who was, of course, also a right-winger.
	And let's not forget Herman Cain.
	Besides his 999 tax thing, I don't think it's...
	666 upside down.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Besides that, he, of course, was the president of the Federal Reserve of...
	Kansas City.
	Kansas City, thank you.
	So he's a bankster, is what he is.
	Yeah, president of the Federal Reserve in Kansas.
	I mean, come on.
	Does it give you any clues?
	And that's never mentioned.
	No, of course not.
	Because he's a pizza guy.
	If you ask anyone, oh, he's a pizza guy.
	I was talking to some people in Austin.
	They're real careful with new people, with newcomers from Los Angeles.
	They've got one hand on the gun when they're talking to you.
	So what do you think of Perry?
	I was like, he's a douchebag.
	Everyone in Texas thinks he's a douchebag.
	And what do you think of Ron Paul?
	I said, I supported him last year, I supported him this year.
	Oh, that's great.
	But what do you think about Cain?
	And I said, he was a member of the Federal Reserve Board.
	No.
	They don't even know that in Texas.
	Anyway, here's Herman Cain's response to Occupy Wall Street.
	I'm sure you're aware of the fact that there are these protests going on down around Wall Street, Occupy Wall Street.
	They've spread to some other cities in the country.
	What do you make of that?
	What do they make of it?
	What do they want?
	He sounds like...
	Who's that guy on PBS? Is it in your DNA? What do they want?
	Charlie Rose.
	Charlie Rose.
	Charlie Rose talking to a woman.
	What do they want?
	I don't know what they want, but I think they think that the banks have given them a raw deal over the last few years.
	I don't have facts to back this up.
	Because I am a banker.
	But I happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration.
	No!
	No, no, no, no!
	They're planned and orchestrated or they're being captured to propagate the message of the Obama administration, you idiot!
	Don't blame Walsh.
	Well, he got that one wrong.
	Yeah, well, again...
	This guy's president, Putin will just walk all over him.
	It gets better.
	Don't blame the big banks.
	If you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself.
	Yes, blame...
	That's a message.
	Blame yourself.
	You stink.
	Blame yourself.
	Now, Joe O'Biden, do you remember who Van Jones was?
	Yeah, Van Jones was a character that essentially the radio talk show guys ended up getting rousted.
	I think Glenn Beck was the first one who outed him as a kind of a screwy socialist that got a position he really shouldn't have had.
	What was his position?
	What did he do?
	I mean, you remember Van Jones.
	You remember him.
	Yeah.
	He's a fast-talking, good-looking guy.
	Well, first of all, apparently Van Jones and his gang are down on Wall Street.
	They're also weaseling in on the action.
	Anyone who has a book or anything to promote any agenda, they're down there getting camera face time.
	Everybody but us.
	Yeah, well...
	You know, it's funny because people say...
	Lois, get down there.
	You should be down there.
	Yeah, really.
	You should be broadcasting every day.
	I said, no.
	Our job is to dissect what is happening and it's unfolding before our very eyes.
	This is being co-opted.
	Of course people are pissed off.
	And I'll tell you in a minute what this is about and what should be happening.
	But you're just watching the media slurp this up and the current administration loving it.
	Because we want people fighting amongst themselves.
	That's what the plan is.
	We're going to have fighting, but it's not going to be between protesters and the cops.
	It's going to be between protesters and protesters.
	Here's O'Biden on a talk radio show.
	Let me ask you about the Tea Party.
	I pretty well have an idea of what your thoughts are on the Tea Party.
	What is your thought on the Van Jones organization of the Occupy Wall Street Group, which is supposedly counter to the Tea Party, and going to be supportive of the President?
	I really don't know about the Van Jones group, except what I read in the press.
	And by the way, I don't disrespect the Tea Party.
	I think the Tea Party and the Van Jones folks are different halves of the same concern.
	There's an overwhelming frustration.
	There's a great frustration here in America that the two parties haven't been able to get very much moving.
	We have been in this period where there's just nothing but fighting.
	And so you have on the one end Van Jones' guys, whoever he is, talking about...
	What?
	Yeah, wait, wait.
	What?
	Yeah, listen.
	Listen to these guys go.
	The administration, yeah.
	Used to be a green czar.
	Oh, is that?
	All right.
	Well, you know...
	He doesn't remember me.
	I wasn't at that meeting.
	He doesn't know who he was.
	He didn't know who Van Jones was.
	Whoever that guy is.
	Whatever that guy is.
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	I don't know that guy.
	Wow.
	Soros, of course.
	That's the clip of the day, by the way.
	Thank you.
	Soros, the multi-billionaire, is loving this.
	And he was at the United Nations, his little Euronews report about it, including his quote.
	George Soros, the billionaire financier, says he understands anti-bank protests that started in New York and have spread across the United States.
	The Hungarian-born investor, whose net worth is an estimated 16 billion euros, said he sympathized with the Occupy Wall Street movement.
	Soros was speaking at a meeting at the UN headquarters in Manhattan.
	I can understand their sentiments, frankly.
	There are a lot of people, for instance, running small businesses who saw their credit card charges being raised from 8% to 28%.
	I can understand their frustration.
	You should just do the Soros voice.
	Yes, I can understand that they see rich people taking loopholes and taking advantage and paying less tax than their secretary.
	So I understand their frustration.
	I'm sorry, I fell asleep.
	So, yeah.
	Well, this is fun.
	You know, the thing that's interesting is that I think they're co-opting as best they can, but these things can roll out of control on them, and the next thing you know...
	Yeah, but I think this is what...
	Isn't this what Ron Paul predicted?
	He said, yeah, they've been setting this up for a long time.
	They want civil unrest in this country.
	Only I'm worried, and I'm in the chat room, if you go to irc.freenode.net and join Occupy Wall Street, that's IRC chat, you can see them fighting in this chat room already, because you have, you know, the shills who are in, literally saying, oh, this is about the rich, eat the rich, you know, we've got to have the rich have loopholes, and we've got nothing.
	And that's the administration's message.
	That's what this is.
	The president...
	Before we started...
	Back off a second.
	What is the...
	What IRC channel is this and what network is it on?
	The network is Freenode.net, so IRC.Freenode.net.
	Freenode?
	Freenode.
	It's one of the oldest IRC networks there is.
	IRC.Freenode.net and then you get into Occupy Wall Street.
	And by the way, all of these websites that are cropping up...
	Because there's a whole bunch of different ones.
	All the Whois registrations are all protected, so you have no idea who's registering this stuff, what's going on.
	Are you using anonymizers?
	No, no.
	You just get the privacy...
	Yeah, that's what I mean.
	Yeah, you get the privacy registration.
	There was one kid down there on Wall Street who, of course, was not on television.
	And I liked his message a lot.
	When you have big state government, small federal government, our voices are heard at the local level.
	We can make differences.
	A whole continent-wide cannot control a federal government with a banking system that prints money like it's paper.
	You can't even call it money anymore.
	Gold is money.
	Silver is money.
	Green dollars are not money.
	They're using inflation as a hidden tax to fuck the people!
	Prices go up.
	Do your wages go up?
	No.
	My wages didn't go up, but prices went up.
	Gas goes up.
	Milk goes up.
	Trains go up.
	How am I supposed to live?
	And this is all because our government prints too much money, starts too much wars, so they can sell their tanks, their guns, their missiles.
	Because that's all America exports.
	It's guns, missiles, and tanks.
	This guy listens to me.
	Now, how is that guy, you know, I mean, this movement is so...
	It's so broad.
	I mean, there's every imaginable person.
	There's probably a vegan guy in there yelling and screaming about something.
	Well, the thing that baffles me is when this happened in Tahrir Square, and of course, the jackals got in there too.
	When this happened in Athens, it's about the same things.
	It's the exact same things that are happening here.
	Let's just go down the list.
	And Israel, don't forget.
	Oh, yeah.
	But let's just go down the list.
	And we'll compare it to any Arab Spring state.
	We can almost do a clippity-clop Lucifer Clinton thing here.
	Do we live in a police state?
	Well, yes.
	I think we do live in a police state.
	Do we kill people?
	Sometimes innocent people in this country.
	Well, yes!
	We put people to death all the time.
	We don't do it by hanging or public beheading, which, by the way, John and I think we should do, because that'd be a great reality show.
	But we do that in this country, absolutely.
	I mean, yeah.
	We have more, don't forget, more prisoners.
	We have more prisoners in our prisons than any other country in the world.
	And they're all disenfranchised.
	They're not allowed to vote.
	They're all slaves.
	Does our president kill his own citizens?
	Yes!
	Are you kidding me?
	He doesn't do it with AK-47s.
	No, he does it with drones.
	So this is what the people are upset about because they feel it.
	And by the way, more and more people are listening to No Agenda and saying, Yeah.
	Yeah, this is the awakening moment.
	I read a beautiful thing about a priest who went to Syria.
	Let me just find this.
	Someone emailed it to me.
	It was astounding.
	There were some very funny lines.
	Let me just see if I can find this.
	Hold on a second.
	Oh, this is...
	Oh, here we go.
	Delegation to Syria of the Antiochian...
	Am I pronouncing that right?
	Orthodox Christian Archdiocese.
	So they went on a trip, and you can find this in the show notes, 345.nashownotes.com.
	And this is Pastor...
	What was his name?
	Pastor John or something like that.
	And Pastor Pat...
	Father Pat.
	Parishioners pleaded with me, some with tears.
	Please don't go, Father Pat!
	It's dangerous there in Syria!
	So the guy, of course, didn't see any violence, didn't see anything horrible, but there's one passage in this article that he wrote.
	Candor compels the confession nonetheless that at one point in my journey I did feel just a wee bit unsafe.
	Our little group was conducted into a large room full of scary-looking people, Where a security force of more than 20 Husky uniformed officers met us, all of them carrying sidearms and several holding assault rifles.
	As we walked through their midst, this security force gave our group a suspicious once-over.
	It is worth mentioning that this scene took place in the boarding area at the Chicago airport.
	Yeah, and it's just true.
	It is just true.
	Everything that I've learned in my life, and maybe you've seen this as well, John, is when you turn it upside down, that's usually the right way.
	And we just have it all upside down.
	We are the slaves.
	We are the suppressed.
	We live in the police state.
	We are being screwed.
	And to revisit Ron Paul's point about building fences on the southern border to keep us in, not to keep the Mexicans out, now there's a huge movement, and this is a huge scandal, and considered, I guess, a national insult, to build a fence and a trench across the Canadian border.
	Yeah, yeah, I know.
	Canadians are really irked about this.
	They say, what is, you know, what is wrong with you people?
	What's up with that?
	I mean, we're basically building a Berlin Wall.
	I have a clip from a Canadian member of parliament, Scott Bryson.
	Who was very, very upset that some members of Parliament have business cards with gold lettering.
	I don't know if he meant this, but I hope he did, because then he's my new friend.
	Now we learn that the Foreign Minister insists on having gold on business cards.
	This despite the fact that using gold on business cards breaks Treasury Board rules, because it's too expensive.
	Why is the minister breaking government rules?
	Why is he giving taxpayers the gold finger?
	This is a very expensive game of you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.
	When Canadians are struggling just to get by, why are conservative ministers showering each other with gold?
	Why the golden showers, Mr.
	Speaker?
	Why the golden shower?
	Please!
	I want more golden showers!
	Unbelievable.
	I don't think he knew what he was saying.
	Nah, probably.
	He doesn't have a dirty mind.
	Made my day.
	Before we go on, I think we should take a quick break and do some thanks for the number of people who helped us celebrate 345.
	Show 345, that is.
	And, uh, is that okay with you?
	Yes, no, absolutely.
	Are you hearing me?
	Did you click your box again, or am I on?
	No, no, I heard nothing.
	You hear nothing.
	So let's begin with a couple of, uh, couple, we have a few, uh, executive producers for today's show, uh, show three, four, five.
	Jordi Ramirez, Sir Jordi Ramirez, as a matter of fact.
	Hi, John and Adam.
	In the amount of this donation is the number of my challenge coin.
	It gets me over the second knighthood.
	I'll send an email with the accounting.
	I want to donate this knighthood to my cousin, Beto Eschazereta.
	Eschazereta, I think.
	Eschazereta.
	Are you hearing me?
	Are you hearing me?
	Yeah, I am.
	Eschazereta.
	Yeah, well, maybe.
	For his birthday on October 5th, thanks for everything, and he donated 569.
	Niner.
	Exactly.
	That's very nice.
	Barry Hanna.
	New donor as well.
	Okotox, Alberta.
	Canada, 34567.
	We have to have a golden shower effect for our Canadian donors.
	Give them a golden shower.
	Glenn Riccio.
	Poor Canadians get enough flack.
	Glenn Riccio, Charlottesville, Virginia.
	34567.
	John and Adam, I'm attending two funerals this weekend in lieu of flowers.
	The family's requested a donation to my favorite charity.
	That would be the no agenda show, even though it's not technically a charity.
	Here is a 34567 in memory of Howard Anderson and Anne-Marie Figlar.
	Please send out karma to the families.
	And he says, fuck cancer.
	Absolutely.
	Here you go, my friend.
	You've got karma.
	I think you're probably doing a lot of good for the world.
	Because this, what you call a charity, which technically we're not, does go, I mean, the money's on the screen, as they say.
	It doesn't go anywhere but into making the show run.
	Thank you.
	Exactly.
	Scott Hankel, Sunland, California, 34567.
	John and Adam, for this special episode, I'd like to give you karma to the both of you as well as to my wife for a job interview she has on Friday.
	That's very nice.
	We'll take a little karma hit there.
	Thank you so much.
	You've got karma.
	And from Switzerland, James Carson.
	In the morning, John and Adam.
	And he gave 345.
	Greeting from the Gitmo Nation, Swiss Cheese.
	Please accept the donation to join the 345 Club.
	Two years of listening to No Agenda has cured me in my former need to listen to the lamestream media news.
	Thanks to No Agenda, I simply don't need to watch or listen to those shills anymore.
	My TV and radio are now off 99% of the time.
	This guy's got the right idea.
	The time you have given back to me, aha!
	Is worth many times more than this donation, not to mention freeing me from the constant fear-mongering and brainwashing I used to absorb on a daily basis.
	For this, I'm extremely grateful.
	With this donation, I think I may have finally reached knighthood.
	Then we have to check and apparently keep up the outstanding work.
	Thank you, Jim.
	VIP Photography LLC in Flower Mound, Texas.
	345.
	Again, from Flower Mound, Texas.
	I should have one more payment tonight.
	I believe my last payment was around 250, blah, blah, blah.
	If you have time, can you plug my wife's robin's website at hypersistersstore.com?
	It's Hyster Sisters.
	Hyster Sisters, yeah.
	Hyster Sisters Store.com.
	A great place for listeners or listeners' wives who are going to have surgery.
	It's interesting.
	Of any kind or have had surgery to get some extra care.
	Well, that sounds like a good thing.
	Yeah.
	Then we go to our associate executive producers, Sid Incognito in Melville, New York, with a very long note, which I'll be part of.
	He's semi-anonymous.
	He donated to dispel the myth that Indians are cheap.
	He's apparently an Indian, even though it came in from Melville, New York, which gives me the impression that he's not really...
	An Indian.
	He's been absorbed into some American thinking.
	I'd like to remain...
	Anyway, he says, give me credit as Sid Incognito.
	I love your show, except when you make me punch my steering wheel in frustration at some of your anti-scientific claims.
	That would be Adam.
	Adam.
	Yeah, but you defended it on the email.
	I saw that.
	You were defending it.
	You were like, eh, what do you mean?
	What anti-scientific claims?
	No, I wasn't defending it.
	I was asking specifically, and he never really came up with some stuff in another email.
	In fact, the number of emails I've gotten from Sid here are like, I'm thinking of turning it into a book.
	Anyway, he brings up the Al-Qaeda thing, which is the inconsistencies of Qaeda versus Al-Qaeda that John complained about.
	According to the Book of Knowledge, Al translates to the definite article, the.
	And if you read carefully, you see that the Times appears to have adopted the practice of omitting it depending on the grammatical context.
	Now, that I've noticed, but in fact, it's still idiotic, okay?
	Yeah.
	Zach Winston, also an associate executive.
	I'm sorry.
	He wanted some karma for his parents back in India who were facing a years-long fight with the atrocious Indian justice system because they got swindled out of a large chunk of their life savings by a stockbroker.
	Oh yeah, that was the big market crash in India.
	People got screwed.
	I want to make sure we do the karma shots.
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	And that'll work.
	He's Indian.
	Perfect.
	And then finally, Zach Winston out of Narbeth, Pennsylvania.
	$200.
	He'll be an associate executive producer for today's show.
	3, 4, 5.
	I want to remind people to go to Dvorak.org slash NA or channel Dvorak.com slash NA. The No Agenda Show dot com has a link and so does No Agenda Nation where you can get your slave t-shirt which seems to be selling out.
	Which is perfect for the New York event.
	NoagendaShow.com, NoAgendaNation.com, and ChannelDivorek.com, and ChannelDivorek.org.
	And Mickey, Eric the Shill, sent a couple of t-shirt cuts and sizes, and Mickey has selected a unisex one that is a much better cut than the current slave t-shirt, and also one if you're a hot chick.
	So that one probably not going to be selling a lot.
	We don't have any.
	We don't have any hot chicks listening to our show.
	We've got plenty of hot chicks who just wouldn't wear our t-shirts.
	A couple of PR initiatives going on.
	Some domain name forwards.
	Lone Squirrel, who of course does a lot of work for the show there in Paducah, Kentucky.
	A couple of domains he's forwarding to NoAgendaShow.com.
	UncompromisedNews.com.
	GitmoTorture.com.
	EconomicSafety.net, which I like.
	That's a good one.
	EconomicSafety.net.
	Those are forwarding.
	He says thank you once again for the consistent entertainment and analysis.
	Here's a nice domain name.
	Forwarding to NoAgendaShow.com.
	DontDroneMeBro.com.
	Which could become a nice meme.
	GetMoZombies.com.
	Forwarding to the show.
	I like that.
	That's a good one.
	How about this one?
	SellingTheNews.com.
	Yeah, I like that a lot.
	This is Ryan Hoskins.
	He said, you couldn't even believe it was taken.
	And in fact, the band Switchfoot just came out with a new album called Vice Versus.
	And the name of the song, one of the songs is Selling the News.
	So we have...
	We have a song for the site.
	Yeah, we do.
	Wearethe1percent.com Thank you.
	Another one, therongdomain.com.
	These are all pretty good.
	Then Michael Zemowski says, Could you please help me and Michael Moore, that's not the director, but a different Michael Moore, and myself, spread the word that this Saturday at Los Angeles City Hall we will be camping out in the name of no agenda and liberty with fellow occupiers like ourselves.
	We will be pitching a tent in the name of no agenda and liberty this Saturday at 8 p.m.
	in front of Los Angeles City Hall.
	Now what I like is they're holding up big signs that say, You are being tricked.
	Listen to noagendashow.com.
	So I think that's good.
	We need more signs.
	Maybe we should be printing up signs.
	Because now you've got the professional signs are in, right?
	The professional signs from the unions and stuff.
	And the cardboard signs aren't cutting it anymore.
	So maybe we should think about that.
	Hey, there's a brand new No Agenda Roku channel, which looks...
	It's just awesome.
	Link in the show notes under the PR section.
	We'll also put it in the Links That Rock section.
	If you have a Roku, you know how it works.
	You go to that link, you fill out your Roku information as a code, you type that in, and it has both the back episodes and the live stream, which is cool.
	So you can...
	It's all right there in the Roku channel on...
	That looks extremely awesome.
	And then this came in, the No Agenda 111111 Super Karma coin is coming in.
	I don't even remember the 101010 Super Karma medallions this year.
	I've created the 111111 Super Karma coin, 2-inch stamped metal coin with enamel colors.
	Pre-sales just started at NoAgendaSuperKarma.com.
	A limited edition, only 33 numbered, including acrylic case.
	But not with your secret stealth helicopter.
	$33 and two regular editions at $22.11.
	I'd appreciate your help in mentioning these so I can go for the 11-11-11 donation.
	That's Sir Ernie.
	And they're kind of cool.
	If you go to knowagendasuperkarma.com, they're like psychedelic, these coins, which is a nice take on the traditional karma, traditional challenge coins.
	Actually, I should mention that.
	So we're staying at my friend Greg again in Austin, which we hadn't seen for several months since we stayed there on the Hot Pockets tour.
	Yeah.
	And Mickey says, oh my goodness, your black jeans are still hanging in the closet.
	And I misplaced my black jeans.
	I actually had to go buy a new pair.
	And what was in the pocket of the black jeans?
	A challenge coin.
	My challenge coin and my gold coin, everything that I'd lost.
	Oh, the coins that you lost and now the CIA guy sent you a new CIA coin in lieu of the fact that you lost the two coins, which you stupidly left in another guy's closet.
	Now you admitted it publicly.
	Now you have an extra challenge coin and I have absolutely nothing to show for.
	We'll give you a little Hot Pockets jingle, make you feel better.
	Hey, by the way, before I forget this too, did you know that Formula One is coming to Austin next year?
	Well, that's fantastic.
	You don't even like sports.
	Yeah, I just thought I'd throw it out there.
	If you're going to start liking sports, you're going to at least be in the town with probably one of the greatest college football teams in history.
	Is that Austin?
	Yeah, the University of Texas in Austin.
	There's a huge stadium.
	You should go to a game.
	That's right.
	I'm going to go to a game.
	Mickey would enjoy it.
	Mickey would enjoy watching this.
	That's right.
	We're becoming sports fans.
	We're going to drive pickup trucks.
	We're going to have guns.
	What else, honey?
	Ferrari racing.
	Yeah.
	All right, Mickey.
	Sure.
	Yeah, the Ferrari part, you can skip that on this income.
	All right, everybody.
	Yeah, thank you so much, though.
	This is highly appreciated.
	We know it's a magic number, and it wasn't anything like some of the other, you know, the 200 show or other numbers that we've received.
	We know the numbers have gone up, but I'm so delighted.
	A smile comes to my face when you guys go to...
	Dvorak.org.
	And show your love and appreciation and keep us on the road.
	I should mention that all the people that have donated 3, 4, 5 will be listed as members of the special executive producers of this show.
	Yeah, we do an entire list and thank you all very much.
	And is Buzzkill Jr.
	sending that to me?
	Because I don't have it yet.
	It was in an email.
	Yeah, well, he sent it to me.
	Oh, okay.
	Forward it on to me so I can put it into the show notes.
	Very important.
	Everyone else out there, of course, there is something you can do which has to do with our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	New World Order.
	Wear the t-shirt.
	Shut up, Slate!
	You.
	I'm very excited.
	I've not been this excited in a while.
	Nikki's excited, too.
	Oh, about moving?
	Yeah, she's freaking out.
	She loves it.
	She's freaking out?
	Yeah.
	She's totally freaking out.
	Yeah.
	We're very excited to get out of this hellhole.
	So, called Los Angeles.
	I heard you on Twit, by the way.
	Yeah, Adam Curry's, and he's moving to Austin, he thinks.
	I heard you, you cynical bastard, you.
	Showed you, didn't I? All the shows you wouldn't be listening to, I figured that was the one.
	Showed you, didn't I? Yeah, he thinks.
	I haven't seen it.
	You haven't moved yet.
	It's signed.
	Signed, sealed, delivered.
	I'm yours.
	So we did a Dvorak Horowitz, which I think you may or may not run after this show today.
	Yeah, I heard it.
	Did you listen to the show about this Dexia Bank?
	Right underneath the EU's nose in Belgium, a Belgian bank has run up a debt that is higher than the entire GDP of Belgium.
	I have a one-minute report on that.
	Well, before you play that report, see how much of this report you can take, which is discussing it, just because this is my favorite guy on CNBC World, the French guy.
	Yeah, okay.
	How much at all?
	Yeah, we lost 25% yesterday, 38% at some point during the session yesterday.
	We're up 7-9% right now on Dexia.
	France and Belgium are going to come up with a solution for the bank within the next 24 hours.
	A solution!
	It's what the French finance minister François Baroin said this morning to RTL Radio.
	Dexia is now widely expected to be broken up with the sale of its healthier operations such as the Belgium and the Turkish banking unit.
	François Baroin confirmed that Dexia would not stay in its current form.
	The French and Belgian government also are working on the creation of a bad bank which would gather all the toxic assets of Dexia and the bad bank would receive the state guarantee from...
	It's hard to follow.
	The toxic.
	The toxic.
	Well, I have an understandable report, which is everything the French guy just said in English.
	As a rescue plan comes together for struggling Belgian French bank Dexia, some worried depositors have been withdrawing their money.
	money.
	Its customer helpline has been overwhelmed with calls.
	The French and Belgian governments are racing to stop the bank's troubles from worsening the Eurozone debt crisis.
	The head of the French central bank explained: "We'll ensure there is enough liquidity, as we say in financial jargon.
	That means the "In financial jargon, that's way too complicated for you stupid slaves, it's financial liquidity." The National Bank and the Bank of France will lend Dexia as much money as is needed to ensure Very good.
	Very good.
	But it had to be rescued following the 2008 financial crisis.
	It had to be saved then, as now, because it's a lender to thousands of French and Belgian local councils.
	The part of the bank that has made those loans will be combined with other French state-owned banks.
	The loans it's made to the Greek government, which are unlikely to be paid back in full, will be shifted to a so-called bad bank.
	Taxpayers again picking up the tab.
	I love this.
	This is so...
	And this, by the way, completely unreported.
	It was like 140 billion euros, I think.
	140 billion euros.
	That's bigger than the whole Greek problem.
	And...
	Yeah, no, it's not reported at all.
	No, but who's paying for it?
	There's too much jargon involved.
	Yeah, there's too much financial jargon.
	But who's paying for this?
	Who?
	Horowitz is really concerned that the French are going to take it, are going to collapse.
	I mean, this whole thing, now, you know, what happened, which, again, we explained in our show, you know, is that Italy got downgraded by three notches.
	Yeah.
	Bang, bang, bang.
	Tuck, tuck, tuck, right.
	And France is on, you know, everyone knows the pigs, you know, the Portugal, Ireland, the whole group of people.
	Italy, Greece.
	But the French, and if the French go, the Germans, I'm telling you, this is the German takeover of the entire Eurocontinent.
	You know, I was reading an article, which I have linked in the show notes, 345.nashownotes.com, and someone asserted that this was actually, because the ratings agencies are, of course, U.S. ratings agencies, right?
	It's like Moody's.
	And they were asserting that this is actually the U.S. attacking the European system.
	And I thought there might be something to that.
	I like it.
	You know, because who was Moody's, right?
	It's just a bunch of American, well, it used to have an Indian guy running it, but it's an American company, Standard& Poor's, American company.
	And they just downgrade, downgrade, and they're just screwing it just to completely annihilate the European system.
	And I'm like, there is something to that.
	There really is.
	I'm not against it.
	So, essentially, Baron Stephen von Pelsmarkers has been sending me tons of articles from Belgium.
	And he sent me this a few days ago.
	The people are, like, freaking out about their money in Dexia.
	And there is a run on the bank, which, of course, no one will actually say those words anymore.
	Because I think it isn't foreboding.
	Isn't it disallowed by governments everywhere to now actually say...
	Well, it's fine because one of our own senators essentially, I think it was a senator or congressman, I think it was a senator.
	I can't, unfortunately...
	It eludes me who it is.
	The chat room might remember.
	But he essentially told people to take their money out of the Bank of America, which is calling for a run on the Bank of America.
	And it seems as if, if you look at YouTube videos, that this was taking place in St.
	Louis.
	Ah, I have this video where people are being blocked from taking their money out.
	Yeah.
	You want to hear it?
	And this is not covered at all.
	No.
	He came back later and said they would not go wrong with this.
	Yeah.
	You will have to withdraw your money online.
	That'll make no sense.
	Suppose I don't have a computer.
	Did you tell them why you were here?
	No.
	They could see why I was here.
	Did you tell them you want to go in and withdraw your money?
	Oh, yeah.
	I told them.
	I showed them my card.
	I showed them my deposit.
	Did you tell them you were a customer?
	Yeah.
	This card tells them I'm a customer.
	And I got a current letter saying I'm a customer.
	And they wouldn't let me in.
	But they were letting other people in with, I feel, that discrimination.
	What do you want to do with your money instead of having it here?
	I want to put it in a local bank.
	I'm going to find a local bank.
	First, I want them to write me a check, and then I'm going to look for a local bank.
	Now, so this was a black guy, and they had SWAT teams in front of the Bank of America, and I think that what they're doing, if I understood the scenario properly, is black people were not being allowed in, because I guess they had formed a little mini-run with like 20, 30 people, and they were being corralled like, no, you can't do this.
	I guess, and I don't know, sounds like discrimination to me.
	Yeah, that's what he says.
	I think it is.
	What are you going to do about it?
	Right.
	Well, Mickey and I were watching the president speaking this morning before the show started.
	He actually ran a little long.
	He was supposed to stop at 9 so we could get going, but he ran a little long.
	And there was a question about this $5 debit card swipe fee.
	And it's so amazing to me.
	Even Mickey was yelling the right answer.
	That instead of this just being a free market...
	Even Mickey?
	Even Mickey.
	Well, when...
	She heard that.
	She's on the phone.
	She's on the phone.
	Oh, good thing.
	I didn't mean it that way.
	But Mickey is typically...
	She thinks a long time before she'll come out with an opinion.
	And she's always on the side of positivity, which I like.
	Okay, okay.
	You're digging yourself out of the whole thing.
	Thanks.
	I'm out.
	Whew!
	And, you know, it's about, you know, well, the banks are behind the financial, you know, because of the financial regulation, the banks now came out and said, you know, well, we're going to have to charge these five dollars.
	And the president's saying, well, you know, this used to be a hidden fee because of all of our good work and our regulations.
	This is why they're doing it.
	Oh, what a phony.
	Instead of, you know, this is competition.
	It should just be pure.
	And this is what Mickey immediately said before it came out of my mouth.
	This is the wrong answer.
	You just go to a different bank if you don't like it.
	Not the government's going to protect you for the evil bank.
	John, we are at a bank which is a gangster bank.
	And they don't charge us swipe fees.
	They don't charge us even if we get the money back for the $3 surcharge on a foreign ATM. There are banks that do this.
	And it's a small community bank.
	Yeah, those small community banks do their job.
	And it's crazy because this used to be illegal.
	And they call you by name when you show up.
	Dude, when I call them, they're like, Hey, Mr.
	Curry, how you doing?
	How's Christina?
	How's Mickey?
	Or they say Miriam often.
	Her real name.
	Now I'm in trouble.
	It's the database.
	It's the database.
	But they're really nice and they do anything to help.
	And you can get your actual bank manager on the phone and they do stuff for you.
	You know, and they didn't take any TARP money.
	It's just, you can do this, but instead of the President saying, well, go to another bank, you know, no, no, well, we're going to look out for you, that you don't get screwed by the evil bankers.
	This is crazy.
	Anyway.
	Yeah, that was bad.
	So, no, that of course is not reported about Bank of America at all.
	And the Dexia thing is not reported at all.
	We don't know, no Americans know anything about this.
	And it's huge.
	The people, all the stock guys do it because they follow, you know, they get the Bloomberg reports and they have to keep track of this because it's all part of that European mess.
	But no, we get none of that.
	And 50% of this thing is already owned by the government.
	But in Belgium now, it's out of control.
	They're also going to bring in the fat tax.
	Did you hear about it?
	I think it was Norway that is the first country ever to bring in the fat tax.
	Now Belgium's going to do it.
	You know what that is?
	Uh, no.
	Is it like a value added?
	No, no, no.
	It's not VAT. If you're fat?
	If you're overweight?
	If you're overweight, you get screwed.
	Hey!
	Hey!
	Step on the scale, slave!
	No, I'm sorry.
	No, uh, fatty foods.
	We'll get, uh...
	Oh, right.
	No, I do know about it.
	What a bunch of bullcrap that is.
	The fat tax.
	And in Belgium now, they also have to have...
	By the way, Gitmo Nation Lowlands is now considering this.
	Yeah, this is a very good idea.
	This is fat tax.
	This is very good to keep people healthy and pay more for fatty foods.
	In Belgium now, it is law that you have to...
	If you buy cigarettes, they have to self-extinguish after like 30 seconds if you don't draw on it.
	Because it's dangerous.
	Ooh.
	Because, you know, we don't want you burning up.
	We don't want you burning something, you stupid slave.
	You don't know how to smoke.
	It's just...
	Well, while we're on that...
	This was a funny commercial I came across.
	This is brand new from General Electric and the United States Department of Agriculture.
	These days, lots of people are trying to eat more nutritious meals.
	And to help these individuals maintain their lifestyle, GE has partnered with the USDA to create the myplate.gov button.
	One Touch takes you to a smart cooking guide for preparing 44 different menu options, including rice, oatmeal, carrots, broccoli, and other favorite foods that meet the USDA's dietary guidelines.
	Now it's easy to cook healthy meals in just a few minutes.
	The MyPlate.gov button, only available from GE. The MyPlate.gov button pretty soon will be like, oh, I'm sorry, your microwave doesn't work because it's not healthy what you have in there.
	This is probably going to happen.
	And of course, this movement has been taking kind of front, I guess, the top of the fold in so far as these morning shows are concerned.
	And they're now, the stupidest thing I've ever heard is on ABC, was on ABC Good Morning America, where in the clip is ABC uncovers a school scandal.
	And you just have to kind of listen to like, this is a classic who are they kidding approach to the news.
	Now to the public school teacher who was coming out of the shadows for the first time after going undercover to document what tens of millions of American students are given for lunch every day.
	With nearly 20% of our children obese, she set out to show the disservice we're doing our children by serving them highly processed food full of salt and starch.
	First, here's ABC's Juju Chang.
	Juju Chang.
	Juju Chang.
	I have actually a longer clip that kind of incorporates this.
	This is the same thing.
	If you think about it, she goes undercover.
	I'm a kid.
	I can walk into a school and look at the lunches every day of the week and write down what they are.
	What do you have to be undercover?
	Was she wearing a mask?
	They kicked Jamie Oliver out of the country for going undercover and doing this.
	What a cry.
	The whole undercover.
	Look at these horrible lunches they're feeding these kids.
	We did.
	No!
	Hey, did they have, like, the buttonhole camera footage?
	Like, they were, like, this shaky cam?
	Like, oh my god, look at that, it's starch.
	Ugh, it's bad.
	It's very bad.
	Starch.
	Starch.
	This is bad.
	Starch.
	They should have a MyPlate.gov button in the cafeteria.
	Yeah.
	Now, this nanny state stuff is not good.
	It's not the way it is in Texas, boy, I'll tell you that.
	Yet.
	Ha, ha, ha.
	Well, let's listen to some of your Texas governor.
	Easy does it, pal.
	This guy, this Perry character is just so pathetic.
	And listen to the way he's worse than Bush.
	He's making gaps.
	Bush never made gaps when he was first running.
	He only did later.
	But this guy can't really say anything without sounding like an idiot.
	I have two clips.
	Perry is an idiot one and Perry is an idiot two.
	All of us agree that the word that was on that rock is a very offensive rock and a very offensive word.
	The word on that rock was a very offensive rock.
	I thought it was talking about Iraq.
	Iraq, Iraq, Iraq.
	Let me hear that rock.
	Let me hear the rock.
	All of us agree that the word that was on that rock is a very offensive rock.
	And a very offensive word.
	Bad rock.
	Bad rock, go stand over there by the bad bank.
	And then now play Perry as an idiot, too.
	Mitt needs to get a position and stick with it.
	I mean, he's flipping more than that great movie star flipper.
	Adios, mofo.
	That great movie star flipper.
	What a douche!
	Hold on a second.
	Douchebag!
	What an idiot.
	We're running him out of Texas.
	Don't worry.
	They're anxious.
	Rush Limbaugh is the biggest supporter.
	He just wants this guy to be president.
	We're running him out, man.
	We're running him out of town.
	Wow, that's pretty funny.
	I like that.
	Great movie star flipper.
	Ha!
	Oh, boy.
	Hey, let me go.
	Let me see.
	Let's see.
	Let's go.
	Oh, something.
	There was some news, believe it or not.
	The United Nations held a vote.
	And the vote was to basically create a no-fly zone over Syria.
	Oh, I thought they were going to do a no-fly zone over New York.
	Yeah, well, they should.
	Remember.
	Yeah, no, this, this, this.
	Go on.
	So this has been going on for a while.
	And essentially they put together a bunch of really weak sanctions just to get another step.
	And both Russia and China vetoed the bill.
	And Susan Rice, my favorite, along with Lucifer Clinton, she stormed out of the General Assembly because she was outraged.
	Against?
	China and Russia vetoing the resolution.
	Today's refused draft was based on the philosophy of confrontation.
	We can't agree with this unilateral accusation against Damascus.
	We believe it unacceptable, the threat or ultimatum of sanctions against the Syrian authorities.
	European countries and the US had backed the resolution.
	The United States is outraged that this Council has utterly failed to address an urgent moral challenge and a growing threat to regional peace and security.
	During his speech, the Syrian ambassador criticized the U.S., leading to this response.
	The U.S. delegation walking out, the end of an embarrassing day for the United Nations, The resolution defeated.
	And deep divisions within the UN over Syria all too clear.
	And then she clippity-clopped her way right out of the air.
	And of course, we spotted that this Syria thing was taken off the table by analyzing the New York Times reporting, especially showing there.
	And of course, not to mention the guy you talked about earlier in the day.
	So this entire thing was total theater.
	It was bull crap.
	China and Russia were given the go-ahead to do this.
	So they could look good to their people and we could look like we're aghast that this would happen.
	The whole thing is a scam because Syria is no longer in play.
	They stopped months ago.
	And can I just say, I don't believe that any of that bull crap we're being fed is true.
	No, the whole thing is bogus, which you mentioned earlier in the show with that guy who went over there and saw nothing.
	He saw more action in Chicago than he did in Syria.
	And this has pretty much been the message.
	But for some reason, we want to make it...
	I don't know what the deal is.
	We have to be on the wrong side on this issue for some reason.
	You and I are definitely both on the wrong side of history, my friend.
	This is what Susan Rice keeps repeating.
	She did a press conference right after that where she comes out and says...
	She's a phony.
	She knows that this was rigged.
	She's a douchebaguette.
	She comes out and says, Well, I certainly didn't expect to be standing at the press conference this early.
	She's an idiot.
	Oh, God, I hate her.
	I hate her, I hate her, I hate her.
	She's annoying.
	She's an annoying woman with her hair all tied back.
	Syria's off the table.
	Bahrain is off the table.
	Even though they probably have more action going on there.
	Nobody wants to talk about the Israeli protesting.
	The American protesting is going by the way of the co-option.
	No, let's not do that.
	The ultimate goal, I think it's still all about Iran, John.
	All roads lead to Tehran.
	Every country that's talked about, it's eventually Iran supporting them.
	They've got a nuclear weapon.
	I don't know how they're going to pull this off, but that's what they're aiming for.
	It's Drone Nation time.
	Don't you mean donation time?
	He means Adam's got another story about drones.
	Yeah, I've actually got a little bit of Drone Nation story.
	You have drone stories.
	I have drone stories.
	Indeed, I do.
	I was quite surprised by this.
	I don't know if you were copied on this email, but there is a...
	In the United States government, there is an Unmanned Systems Caucus.
	Now, can you explain to us what a caucus is?
	Because we've heard of the Black Caucus.
	It's a gathering of like-minded or people who are specialists.
	It's like a club.
	So, they have a website, unmannedsystemscaucus.mckeon.house.gov.
	And I have their mission and main goals right here.
	As members of this caucus, we, one, acknowledge the overwhelming value of these systems to the defense, intelligence, homeland security, law enforcement, and scientific communities.
	Two, recognize the urgent need to rapidly develop and deploy more unmanned systems in support of ongoing civil, military, and law enforcement operations.
	Three, Work with the military, industry, the Department of Homeland Security, NASA, the Federal Aviation Administration and other stakeholders to seek fair and equitable solutions to challenges created by UAV operations in the U.S. national airspace.
	Four.
	Oh, it gets better.
	Support our world-class industrial base that engineers, develops, manufactures, and tests unmanned systems and creating thousands of American jobs.
	And five, support policies and budgets that promote a larger, more robust national security unmanned system capability.
	This sounds like something for me.
	In fact, the co-chairs welcome you to the website.
	Hello, I'm Henry Coyard.
	Hi, I'm Buck McKeon, and we want to welcome you to the Congressional Unmanned Systems Caucus website.
	The webpage has been redesigned to meet the growing demand for information on the Unmanned Systems Caucus.
	Congressman Cuellar and I are both excited to co-chair a caucus that has grown over 30% in the 112th Congress.
	The goal of the Congressional Unmanned Systems Caucus is to educate members of Congress, stakeholders, and the public on the strategic, tactical, and scientific value of unmanned systems.
	Our caucus recognizes the overwhelming value of unmanned systems in the scientific, intelligence, law enforcement, and homeland security communities.
	The members of our bipartisan caucus are committed to the growth and expansion of these systems in all sectors.
	We face a new reality of increased violence along our southern border associated with illegal trafficking of drugs, weapons, cash, and humans.
	Though we've taken critical steps to interdict illegal activity and prevent any spillover of violence, our nation's communities along our borders and coastal waters continue to face unique exposures to threats.
	Unmanned systems provide real-time surveillance information to federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies while keeping personnel out of high-risk and hazardous environments.
	Hopefully you will find our new website as a great resource for unmanned systems.
	In addition to the website, our office staff is ready to assist you with issues related to these rapidly expanding industries.
	Awesome.
	You guys rock.
	This is fantastic.
	We have a whole club talking about drones, which is good for America.
	And of course, my theory has been all along that this next-gen aviation system...
	This is your theme.
	So there's a couple...
	Once again, we've had a couple of stories.
	They came out once again with...
	There's new information all of a sudden about the Air France crash.
	The investigation keeps getting reopened.
	And for any airman out there, I mean, to me this sounds wrong.
	But I'll read this little quote.
	So what they're trying to do is discredit pilots.
	Pilots bad, automated systems that fly people around good.
	I've lost the VSI. That's vertical speed indicator.
	The junior co-pilot said of the Airbus vertical speed indicator, according to a recording detailed in the report from the court-appointed experts.
	In fact, the instrument was functioning normally.
	Its analog needle immobilized at the lower limit because the plane was hurtling towards the ocean at 15,000 feet a minute.
	A document seen by Bloomberg News.
	And what they're saying is that the pilots were, the title of it is, the pilots were in error and confused.
	Now let me tell you one thing.
	When your aircraft is descending at 15,000 feet a minute, you're knowing this, okay?
	You're knowing this because you're floating in the cockpit, okay?
	15,000 feet per minute.
	So to say that they didn't understand what was going on and didn't understand...
	I mean, it's a lie.
	It's totally to set you up to make you feel...
	That pilots are no good.
	Air controller partly to blame for fatal crash, says ABC News.
	And this was a crash in 2004 in Australia.
	So this is the controller, another part of the air system.
	The Victorian coroner has found air traffic controller was partly to blame for a fatal plane crash in the state's northeast in 2004.
	The twin-engine turbopop crashed and burst into flames.
	The coroner, who apparently is an aviation expert, ruled an air traffic controller and satellite navigational error were to blame because experienced pilot Cary Endicott was not notified he had traveled off course before impact.
	I'm not buying this either.
	You know, when you're doing an instrument landing, you've got instruments and you have steam gauges and not just GPS. So I'm just not buying the explanation.
	And so all of these stories, and the aviation reporting is always poor regardless, they're being pushed in your face to make you feel comfortable with the idea of a system that, of course, managed by the government, which will keep automatic separations, will land the planes automatically.
	Oh, those pesky pilots, they can't make any mistakes.
	And there was a meeting at the AOPA, That's the Pilots Association.
	They brought in a guy from the Unmanned Aerial Vehicle Industry Association, and he gives it away and tells exactly what the plan is, as I've been predicting all along.
	Trying to integrate some of this wonderful technology so that we can peacefully integrate, peacefully coexist with manned aircraft, reducing the threats that That are legitimate in some respects so that we can all fly in the same airspace without putting additional burden on the manned industry or the unmanned industry.
	We will simply comply with the requirements of the new airspace, new air traffic, next gen, so to speak, system as it unfolds.
	There you go.
	So what he's saying is the transition happens.
	We bring in the next-gen system.
	We'll all be playing together nicely.
	We've got legitimate concerns.
	By the way, notice he says legitimate concerns about the manned vehicles.
	And then before you know it, it's going to be drones flying everywhere, and you're actually going to get on a drone.
	This is how crazy it is.
	You want a flight to Austin?
	Get on the drone.
	Droneairways.com.
	That's our new business, John.
	Oh, we need the website.
	Droneairways.com.
	Droneairways.com.
	And it is so wrong.
	This is such an egregious government program.
	You just really don't want this.
	You really, really don't.
	And there's a whole caucus.
	It's great.
	Scientific and civil and law enforcement.
	More drones.
	Science is in.
	Yep.
	Just have all kinds of drones flying around.
	It's great.
	The science is in!
	Yeah, we need a bunch of drones.
	Droneairways.com.
	So this fence they're going to build across Canada, they said, no, it's not really a fence.
	There's a whole area, the North Dakota area, we're going to build a big trench.
	Because it's impractical to put a fence there, so we're going to build a trench.
	How deep is this thing?
	I don't know.
	Trench.
	Whoops!
	Canada must be a huge threat to the U.S. Oh, there's all these terrorists are pouring in through the Canadian border.
	Really?
	How much terrorist activity do we actually have?
	I was listening to some douchebag.
	A female douchebag on one of the talk shows on Fox going on and on about, oh, you know, the problem going on in New York is that, you know, the police are spending too much time with these protesters and the terrorists are being ignored.
	You know, what terrorists?
	It makes it sound like...
	Town's crawling with them.
	And by the way, my prediction, which I'm putting in the book, is in the dead of night, over the next couple of weekends, the cops are going to roll in around 3 in the morning and clear out this whole protest operation.
	Oh, I guarantee that.
	I guarantee it.
	It's going to be wiped clean.
	But you put that in the book as your prediction.
	I'm totally on board with it, though.
	Well, the Canadians actually do know about terrorism, and I think that they would like a trench.
	I know we talked about this, but I hadn't actually seen the video.
	This is in Vancouver.
	Dick Cheney was coming up to read from his book.
	And they're all out there.
	They're going to arrest him.
	It's the darkness.
	In 2000, the Canadian Parliament passed a statute that the Canadian Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes Act.
	And that states that Canada is not to be a haven.
	It's not to give refuge for war criminals.
	In my view, the most obvious, notorious war criminal, or credibly accused war criminal, because he hasn't had a trial yet, is Dick Cheney.
	Not only did he lie to go to war, his lies leading to a million deaths, but he self-confessed torture.
	There's f***ing scumbags in here right now.
	And we're not arresting him.
	We're turning our cheek on this f***ing bitch.
	We'll torture chat tonight.
	I hope you get a lot of laughs.
	I hope you're joking about...
	Hey, we played this clip two shows ago.
	We talked about it.
	I don't think we played it.
	We played a clip, and it had the same guy moaning.
	It was called Dick Wars is the clip.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	Now you catch me.
	I don't have the horn.
	No, but I do have...
	And now, back to real news.
	Something you uncovered, John.
	A new word was going to be integrated into the NBC and ABC and CBS sitcoms.
	The word?
	Rhymes with.
	Angina.
	Here it is, The Whitney Show.
	Listen, it is okay, man.
	Everyone breaks up eventually.
	We are not meant to be with one person for that long.
	Three years?
	I mean, you want to have pizza every night for three years?
	Yeah, actually.
	Okay, bad example.
	The same vagina?
	Wow!
	The world's worst show, by the way.
	That's some writing right there.
	No story.
	Yeah, that's some writing right there, everybody.
	Do you want the same vagina every night?
	We've been watching, myself and J.C., Buzzkill Jr., we've been watching all the new sitcoms, because there's a crap load of them, and we compare them all to Whitney as, is it as bad as Whitney?
	Yeah, really.
	And we've actually found a couple that are worse.
	No.
	They canceled the Mad Men at the Club, the Playboy show, they canceled that already.
	Well, that didn't have a prayer.
	Pan Am stinks, by the way.
	That's Mad Men in the Air.
	And then, what else do they have?
	By the way, very nice to see X Factor failing.
	Failing.
	Outrageously failing.
	Happy to see that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's good.
	I'm just getting sick of these amateur hour shows.
	I mean, it's just like, how many of this crap can we take?
	Okay, we have a lot of people that can sing.
	It's a cycle.
	It's a fractal, as you would call it.
	It's a cycle.
	It comes around, and it's over.
	Yeah, I mean, it started with a gong show, and time is over, and it's good because people are sick and tired of reality.
	They want acted stuff.
	Excuse me.
	Unfortunately, the acting stuff sucks balls.
	There's nothing good.
	Nothing.
	So, uh...
	Yeah, well, there's actually a couple of watchable shows.
	So, we talked about this post office thing, which still galls me to no end, because you can just keep seeing it.
	They're trying to privatize the post office more than has already been privatized.
	Right.
	And I've dug up that clip that we didn't have, and I want people to listen to this.
	This post office, the attack on the post office, is an entire scam of...
	Propagated by Congress and I don't know who else, but it's got to be stopped.
	We cannot afford to let the post office, you know, close down, essentially.
	The people who want to destroy the Postal Service had to manufacture a crisis.
	to destroy the post office.
	Well, because they know it's an essential business.
	It's a function that will have to take place anyway.
	The Postal Service in 2004 did $70 billion in business.
	In 2010, it did $67 billion in business.
	So what's the tremendous drop in business?
	It's only because there was a spike in five, six, and seven because of the economy going up.
	The economy goes down.
	Postmaster General Patrick R. Donahue negotiated with the Union in April.
	In July he was going to Congress and saying we have to pass laws to break this contract.
	What happened between April and July?
	Absolutely nothing.
	If Donahoe did this contract, which was attacked by ISA, it was so bad.
	Why is Donahoe in his job now?
	He should have been fired.
	What about the effect of email on the post office?
	Well, obviously there's some kind of effect from email.
	That's true.
	Massive.
	But in 2006, it was the biggest volume that the post office ever handled in its 236-year history.
	Explain the scam, John.
	Well, ICE is somehow behind it, because he's the spokeshole for the anti-post office operations.
	I think it's either Federal Express or a combination of Federal Express and UPS trying to steal their business.
	They did this exact same thing in Gitmo Nation Lowlands, and in fact, I remember talking about this, and this was in 2008 probably, where they did a survey, and And one of the industry experts they brought in to actually run the survey, run the investigation, was the CEO of TNT, the commercial postal service in the Netherlands.
	And TNT is pretty big, actually.
	And he said, well, no, it won't work.
	No, now we've got to privatize that.
	And boom, who gets the contract?
	TNT. And they're now running the postal service.
	Yeah.
	This is an out-and-out scam.
	Yeah, and how's that going to work for our stamp rates?
	Oh, instead of paying 44 cents to send a mail, you know, any mail, of course, there'll be a lot of propaganda that the mail gets lost when it really doesn't.
	But instead of spending 44 cents, it'll probably be like $2 per letter and up.
	It's going to destroy all direct mail marketing, period, because no one can afford these kind of rates.
	It's an opportunity for these companies, UPS United Parcel and Federal Express, to make a ton of money on the backs of the American public.
	And the post office is guaranteeing the Constitution.
	I think there's something else going on.
	There's an additional piece to this.
	We know that the current USPS, the United States Postal Service, is being commissioned to spy on people.
	And I think there's some more great groovy contracts for whoever takes over the postal system.
	Because, you know, the Postmaster General has, you know, they've got like police powers.
	It's very powerful stuff.
	I think that there's some extra benefit contracts in there for Homeland Security.
	And whoever is delivering your post will also be checking you out, bitch.
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	That would be good.
	And also you can probably run scams because the post office, when you run a scam through the post office, you know, some sort of a rip-off, you can get indicted as a felony.
	You can actually probably run scams through FedEx and get away with it.
	I mean, the whole thing...
	This is a scam.
	The public seems to be being taken in by this.
	I mean, except for this one report on Democracy Now!
	with a union guy complaining.
	But the fact of the matter is this is not being covered by the mainstream at all.
	You said it again.
	The fact of the matter.
	Sorry.
	It's okay.
	You should honk me every time I do it.
	Yeah.
	Well, but as you explained...
	I had another one early, like a couple years ago, somebody kept pointing out to me.
	I kept saying it over and over.
	We go through phases like this.
	Don't worry about it.
	There was...
	You pointed out on the previous show that the reason why they have no money is because they had to prepay $70 billion in pensions.
	No, 75 years.
	Whatever.
	Yeah.
	Big difference.
	Yeah, they pay 75 years in advance.
	You have to look at that bill.
	I'm sure ISA is behind it.
	This ISA guy is a bad actor here.
	Well, ISA is actually behind the big investigation going on now that is also being under-reported, although I think the President did address it briefly in a backward way, and I think lied to the American public, and it will come back.
	It'll be on the wrong side of history on this one.
	This Fast and Furious, which we reported on months ago, As it was just brewing.
	So now apparently Eric Holder, the Attorney General, in congressional testimony under oath said, yeah, this Fast and Furious thing I heard about only a few weeks ago.
	And it turns out a CBS News reporter uncovered a memo.
	And you have to always be, and CBS has been on this from the get-go.
	I remember we played the CBS report, which I thought was actually pretty good.
	They've been all over this.
	And it may be because CBS is just co-opted by some group.
	Who knows?
	ABC is not on this story.
	They uncovered a memo in 2010 that specifically addressed the Fast and Furious program by name sent to Attorney General Eric Holder.
	Who then says, well, you know, it was like a memo.
	I wasn't reading it.
	And, of course, this is all under Freedom of Information Act.
	CBS sued to get this.
	The whole page is black except for, you know, one or two sentences that actually says Fast and Furious.
	And I got a clip from, I'm not a big fan, the Laura Ingram show.
	And she had this reporter on the phone.
	And so she's been badgering the Department of Justice and the White House, who brought in the Schultz guy to basically do crisis management on this very issue, Fast and Furious.
	And here was her experience when she was trying to get some quotes out of the Department of Justice and the White House on the Attorney General's knowledge of this program, which wound up, of course, an American-fed gun I killed a border patrol agent, but I think probably drugs are being run in the opposite direction.
	There's a lot of crap in this, and I've said earlier, I think this is Obama's Watergate.
	Here's the response she got.
	...further, but they won't go, they will never go on the record with some sort of firm answer to these questions.
	They just sort of float these explanations out there.
	And I thought it was interesting that the DOJ press person would not put anything in writing yesterday for me and now wants to argue the point as to what had been said on the phone and what should have been said in my report.
	Well, that's why I want it in writing so they can't come back later and claim things that weren't said.
	So they were literally screaming at you?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Well, the DOJ woman was just yelling at me.
	A guy from the White House on Friday night literally screamed at me.
	Who was the person at Justice?
	Eric Schultz.
	The person screaming was Tracy Schmaler.
	She was yelling, not screaming.
	And the person who screamed at me was Eric Schultz at the White House.
	Screaming at her.
	Can you imagine that?
	Wow.
	Screaming.
	And if you...
	Consult people...
	If you look up Eric Schultz, let me just do that right now.
	Pretty interesting background.
	Of course, you get the football guy, Eric Schultz.
	I'm seeing Eric Schultz, White House.
	I thought I saved a link about this guy.
	But he was brought in recently.
	And he's...
	Boy, I'll have to look that up for you.
	But he literally was brought in as a special counsel or something to do damage control on this.
	So they're freaking out.
	And this, I think, remember the White House insider from Osterman that I was all over?
	I think he said, in his earlier reports, he said, look, there's a big scandal brewing and there's a memo out there, and I think this might have been what he was referring to.
	And I think this whole White House, the whole thing is just falling apart.
	It's completely, it's falling apart at the seams.
	And if I look at our president, the guy looks deflated.
	Not only that, he looks haggard, and he hasn't taken the time to dye his hair.
	I mean, he's really gray, last time I saw him.
	Even the morning Joe Shills were talking about him.
	Exactly what happened in September of 1967.
	But I will guarantee you, nobody in September, what is today...
	Nobody on September 19, 1967 ever dreamed in a million years that six months later Lyndon Johnson would have announced to the country on March the 30th that he was not running for re-election.
	Six months is a lifetime.
	What did Macmillan say in politics?
	A week is a lifetime.
	Six months is a lifetime.
	If these numbers keep going down, Is there any possibility that this president decides to step down?
	This is what we've been predicting all along.
	And what's not helping the President is Lady Obama racking up the bill on these trips of hers.
	Apparently somebody's dug into the Freedom of Information Act to get the numbers on her trip to Africa where she loaded up Air Force One with a bunch of...
	No, no, it was a C-132.
	It wasn't Air Force One.
	Okay, well it was a C-132 which is not a cheap plane to fly.
	No, it's like $16,000 an hour just to fly it.
	Yeah, and it's like a long trip.
	She flew it with a bunch of her friends and family to Africa.
	And the bill, and supposedly when you're taking government joyrides that are not business, apparently she claims that she did some business.
	She visited the Nelson Mandela's museum or something.
	Yeah, but the fact that the...
	I don't think that's good either.
	She was on vacation with her friends and they're supposed to reinforce the government.
	And her family.
	But they were listed, the two girls and there was like three or four other family members, I think were listed as senior officials.
	Right.
	On the manifest.
	They've got some senior officials here.
	But that's been reported everywhere.
	And in all honesty...
	So I have a million dollars.
	Yeah, but yeah.
	And this goes on and on.
	She's constantly wasting money.
	Yeah, but Laura Bush did that too.
	She went to Africa all the time.
	Not to this extreme.
	But I like this one better.
	Because I'm always...
	It's amazing how many new appointments this administration is making.
	And so every single day, there's a new appointment, a new appointment, a new person.
	It's like they're churning through people like crazy.
	White House announces new chief...
	Are you still there?
	I have to...
	What are you doing?
	Hello?
	Hello, hello, hello, hello?
	Hello?
	Okay, I'm back.
	You're back?
	So I was saying that the White House is churning through staff.
	And this one came out.
	White House announces new chief usher.
	Now, do you know what the chief usher does?
	You see the one that says, Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States.
	No.
	Incorrect.
	I like doing it.
	No.
	I'm actually going to bring up the official White House page, the press page, and I'll give you the definition of what the usher does.
	As Chief Usher, Reed is her name, Angela Reed, will be responsible for overseeing all aspects of the operations and activities within the executive residence.
	What's the matter, darling?
	Hey!
	Does she already have a staff of about 25 people?
	So, yes.
	So, the executive residence and the executive residence grounds.
	Among her many responsibilities, Reed will oversee management of the executive residence to ensure activities and resources, of the humankind, I'm sure, are used efficiently and effectively.
	Now, let's look at Angela Reed's curriculum.
	Angela Reid currently is general manager at the Ritz-Carlton.
	If I'm going to have anyone come in and take care of my house, I want it to be the bitch who's running the Ritz, okay?
	That's what I want.
	The Ritz-Carlton!
	Are you kidding me?
	Now, one day after Michelle Obama, and now we know it.
	Remember what Michelle Obama was wearing when she was in Target?
	Yeah.
	It was like a flowery, leather, layered-type dress.
	Yeah.
	One day later, hot on the heels of its sell-out Missani collection, Target's newest fashion partner has been revealed to be Jason Wu.
	Jason Wu is Michelle Obama's favorite designer.
	In fact, he designed her inauguration dress and she was wearing a Jason Wu in Target.
	This whole thing was a promotion!
	Yeah, didn't we call it when we first saw it?
	We suspected it was.
	Yeah, we thought it was a Target promotion, but we didn't know it was a Jason Wu designer Target promotion.
	She's got to need a job when she gets out of this other one.
	That's great!
	I love it!
	Good job!
	It's corrupt!
	This operation is totally corrupt.
	Yeah, uh-huh.
	Yeah, the whole operation.
	I still, you know, someone needs to do some crap on this Valerie Jarrett woman.
	She's the one that's, she's the evil one.
	You know I don't like her.
	You have something about her.
	Yeah, she's the handler and she's keeping the president right.
	She's probably sticking him full of drugs.
	I don't know what's going on.
	I think he would have given up if it wasn't for her.
	She's the one.
	That's possible.
	The Obamas have the whole family living in the White House.
	They have mother-in-law, brother-in-law.
	Yeah, they got everybody in there.
	What's up with that?
	Yeah.
	China in the second century.
	So we've got a clip here that you wanted to talk about before we get into thanking some of our donors for this program.
	Yeah, actually, there's two clips.
	Before we play that one that says the pre-donor clip, because I have to set that one up, I want to play a clip.
	This was a clip off the PBS NewsHour that they roll out all these commercials during the NewsHour, and they do this...
	commercial for Chevron with they got this music, this very noticeable music.
	But they've added a twist.
	They've added a new factoid to their little propaganda.
	And I want to see, I don't know if you can spot it, but I want to see if you can spot, they've added a, there's a sudden emergence of a new kind of a mini-meme because we have talked about this at least two years ago.
	But play the clip that's called...
	New Twist.
	New Twist.
	Is that what you got?
	New Twist.
	Pat on tonight's NewsHour.
	Major funding for the PBS NewsHour has been provided by...
	Okay, listen.
	Somebody has got to get serious.
	I think that renewable energy is vital to our planet.
	You hear about alternatives, right?
	Wind, solar, algae...
	I think it's going to work on a big scale, and I think it's going to be affordable.
	So, where are they?
	It has to work in the real world.
	At Chevron, we're investing millions in solar and biofuel technologies to make it work.
	We've got to get on this now.
	Well, obviously, they're using kind of the reality format.
	Did you notice anything?
	Because this commercial's been running for a long time, and this is the first time, at least, I noticed them dropping in algae.
	Yeah, I did hear algae.
	Huh.
	I wonder what that's all about.
	Well, that's probably...
	I mean, do you remember we had the guy that was on...
	This was a clip.
	This was a long time ago.
	Yeah.
	Where the clip, the guy says...
	The algae car.
	I remember that.
	Algae car.
	He drove a car from California to St.
	Louis on algae.
	Algae.
	Yeah, I remember that.
	Yeah.
	So I guess this could come back into play or something.
	So do you think that there will be a negative story on PBS about algae or about Chevron?
	No.
	That is a crock of crap, you mean?
	Algae is going to be a new source of energy?
	I don't think so.
	I don't think so.
	I'm telling you, wait a second, you're telling me Obama's not systematically liquidated six million dollars?
	No, no, but Williams wasn't implying that.
	He was just making an analogy that was so offensive that they booted him off, ESPN booted him off, I guess.
	That's because it's all about commerce, and they can't rock the boat over there, for God's sakes.
	He's got to be whacked.
	Don't take it seriously, Hank.
	It's a fiscal decision.
	You slipped up, they'd probably let you back in because they know you didn't mean he's killed six million Jews, but it's fiscal.
	You've got to go.
	This is about Hank Williams Jr.
	I've never actually seen it, but I guess at the beginning of Monday Night Football he starts off with a song or something.
	Right, a customized song for everything, but he on some Fox show made some allusion to Hitler.
	And so, like they do on all these commercial networks, if you slip up...
	Yeah, you're out.
	You're out.
	What he said was, Boehner and Obama...
	Golfing together was like Netanyahu and Hitler hanging out.
	Goodbye, Hank.
	You're off.
	Yeah, so he's firing.
	I just wanted to run this clip because just to point out the fact that...
	When you watch any of the commercial stuff, besides, I mean, our show is not sponsored for a reason.
	Because we cannot be beholding to this sort of mentality.
	No, we would be kicked off very quickly.
	If Adam slips up and says something...
	What do you mean if Adam slips up?
	What do you mean if that's my fault?
	It's like, the reason we don't have commercials is to hedge because I'm an idiot?
	Is that it?
	Yes.
	I didn't say that.
	I'm just saying, or me, never let me finish the sentence.
	Yeah.
	Or I slip up.
	Yeah.
	If either one of us slipped up, we were not fired from the show because the show is, the only thing that we can do wrong is to lose our audience because they, you know, we're...
	We suck.
	Actually, by kowtowing to the powers that be, the corporations, we would lose our audience.
	You know, it was a couple of years ago, we were being courted somewhat by Westwood One Radio Network.
	Remember that?
	Yeah.
	And they were really talking about, hey, you know, this is a growth market, this type of show, you know, it's controversial, you guys are good.
	And then I sent a link.
	They listened to one show.
	Never heard back from them again.
	Like, no, that's not going to work for our advertisers, unfortunately.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fun.
	Yeah, on no agenda.
	Huh, huh.
	In the morning.
	Nailed it.
	And so we do have some people that help us, and they're called our listeners.
	We don't sell our listeners anything except the show.
	Stan Salisbury at Gainesville, Florida, contributed $133.32.
	Hey, John and Adam, subscribe to the $11.11 plan.
	But making my donations for all 12 months.
	A number of people have done this, by the way.
	2011, we should probably put it on the list.
	The one donation at 133.32, my wife Nan and I are up in Gitmo Nation, Great White North, enjoying all the still pleasant fall weather on our log cabin in Manitoulin Island in Northern Ontario.
	They sent us some karma for a safe trip home.
	Yeah, we'll give you some of that.
	Be careful.
	You've got karma.
	So he comes back and he lives in Gainesville, I guess.
	That's interesting.
	Well, he's smart.
	He should stay up there because the crap is going to hit the fan down south here.
	And apparently he wants to wish everyone in Canada a happy Thanksgiving, which is on October 10th.
	They have a Thanksgiving in Canada?
	Yeah, why wouldn't they?
	Because they didn't kill the Indians.
	You okay there?
	Sorry.
	Corey Gigliotti.
	Port?
	You know, I know how to pronounce this.
	But it's Poco, B.C. Finally not a boner.
	Show notes are priceless.
	By the way, the show notes are priceless and I don't think enough people take advantage of them.
	But students out there should specifically look over the show notes for ideas for papers.
	Okay.
	Anyway, he wants a douchebag call out for anyone listening for five or more shows without donating.
	Douchebag!
	And he also wants karma for a new job.
	Okay, we'll hand him that.
	I could have done a double shot, actually.
	You've got karma.
	It was different.
	It was targeted differently.
	Targeted differently.
	We have to consider the target.
	Hey, hey, are you shilling for target?
	Anyway, you get 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	Brett Corbett in Brisbane, Queensland.
	Email to Adam R.E. Gitmo down under Andrew Bolt racial vilification laws and the laws of our freedom of speech.
	Keep hitting them in the mouth.
	Michael Bowling, Watsonville, California, 8412.
	I got re-douched for not donating in a while, so I need to be de-douched again.
	Oh, no.
	Wait a minute.
	Do we have a re-douching?
	No, he needs a de-douching.
	He got re-douched on his own.
	I know, but I didn't know you could get...
	Oh, he re-douched himself.
	Yeah.
	Okay, here's your de-douched.
	You've been de-douched.
	But he also needs a call-out for his buddy Richard as a major douchebag for every donate, ever.
	Cheap bastard.
	Cheap bastard, he calls him.
	Also, can I get some karma?
	Oh, jeez, buddy.
	Karma for my girlfriend.
	You've got karma.
	She's going to grad school.
	Gregory Davies in Lawton, Oklahoma, one of our regulars.
	No, I guess not.
	No, brand new.
	We've got other people.
	$80.
	Hey, John and Adam, aside from the fact that your podcast is fantastic listening and the work you do is brilliant, I think a good idea might be to get people to donate whenever John drops an F-bomb.
	I noticed he dropped one in the last episode, so here's my donations for John's swear jar.
	When John says, Fuck, send in a buck.
	How about 80?
	I would appreciate some karma, so thanks always.
	I think it should be more than a buck.
	That doesn't make any sense.
	It has to be like 80.
	I like that.
	You've got karma.
	Anonymous in Randwick, New South Wales, 80.
	Andrew Gardner in Avenue, Maryland, 6461.
	Giving you the same amount that I have in my union douchebags every month.
	So I give to my union, who are douchebags every month.
	Value for value, this way I get more from you guys.
	Daniel Hutner, Sir Daniel Hutner to you.
	Murphy's, California.
	Double nickels on the dime in the morning.
	It's been a while since I checked in.
	My wife, Jen, could use some karma.
	She's 14 weeks in the incubation of a future slave and has already been put on the bed rest.
	He also forwarded digitaljudgmentlesson.com to No Agenda Show, so keep up the great work.
	All right, here's for your bed-rested milk.
	You've got karma.
	And to your future human resource.
	Heather Aronson in San Francisco.
	Double nickels on the dime.
	Hey guys, thanks for putting a smile on my face in the otherwise sad time.
	You're the best.
	PS3 better be planning that West Coast tour.
	Otherwise what?
	I don't know.
	She doesn't say.
	Adam Shasted in Knoxville, Tennessee.
	5133, love the show, please.
	Sorry.
	Please de-douche me and call out my friends for being a non-donating douchebag.
	So he needs a de-douching followed by a de-douche.
	You've been de-douched.
	And who do we have to douchebag?
	Clifton S. Jason H. Jason S. Corey L. and Erich M. I'll just do a mass douchebag.
	Douchebag.
	For all them douchebags.
	Douchebags.
	Bags.
	Douchebags.
	Aaron Harper in Smyrna, Georgia.
	$50.
	New slave will be added to the nation this week.
	I'd like some karma for the baby.
	Alright.
	That's cool.
	We've got lots of babies coming.
	Yeah, a lot of babies in this episode.
	He'll be donated again for a birthday shout-out once her RFID is installed.
	Oh, and John Galt says hi.
	This is a guy named John Galt, whoever that is.
	Who is John Galt?
	Who is that guy?
	John Tirada in Pasadena, California, $50.
	Please add some karma for my job interviews.
	Ready?
	Yeah.
	You've got karma.
	New donor, Joshua Defabaugh.
	In Osterberg, Pennsylvania, I'd like to get some karma for a startup I work on called Rockbot, R-O-Q-B-O-T dot com.
	We should look it up.
	We have a make it or break it meeting coming up on the 10th with a pretty legitimate VC firm named for a tree.
	Who would that be?
	What do you think?
	Sequoia.
	Sequoia!
	Duh!
	I would love to hear what you think about our business.
	Basically, we are a better jukebox.
	We have quite a few venues in the Bay Area, a couple in L.A. and even some in Austin.
	Oh, there you have it.
	I think John would particularly enjoy our business model since blah, blah, blah.
	He graduated from Penn State last spring, working on less than a minimum wage.
	Give him a karma and see if he gets any money.
	Yeah, good luck.
	You know what?
	I'll tell you in a second.
	You've got karma.
	And we'll talk.
	No, exactly.
	If you raise a round, you need to immediately hire the Curry-Dvorak Consulting Group to help you.
	Yeah, we can do all the media stuff.
	Yeah, that'd be great.
	Anonymous, Holly Springs, North Carolina, $50.
	Shows have been good lately.
	I'm using the information I get during the show to educate my friends and co-workers.
	Can you play the Adios Mofos jingle?
	We played it once already.
	You can play it again if you want.
	No, I'm happy to play it.
	I just had an idea about...
	Adios Mofo.
	There you go.
	There's your Adios Mofo.
	Kieran Burke in Framingham, Massachusetts, $50.
	Sir Lawrence Royk to you.
	Burlington, Ontario.
	John, it's been a while, so a small token of thanks.
	Also, I'm forwarding my domain, cuffingthehumanherd.com to no agenda.
	Culling.
	Culling.
	Culling, not cuffing.
	Culling.
	That's a good one.
	Yeah.
	It seems appropriate in the light of the NWO, New World Order, and now Steve Jobs.
	Continued success, Sir Lawrence Royk.
	Paul Wynn, Southport, Queensland, $50.
	And finally, tinyempire.com in Phoenix, uh...
	Please say, Producer Miles says, nasocial.net has a new Phoenix Locals group.
	If you are coming to the PodCamp AZ, encourages you to sign up, loves the show.
	I think I got bitten by a flea.
	You did?
	Yeah.
	Is it itchy?
	Oh, you're just not a mosquito?
	No.
	After the rain?
	No, our friend Greg has like three dogs.
	I think one of them had fleas where there were like bites everywhere.
	Fleas generally don't bite people.
	Maybe.
	Unless they're really hungry.
	Yeah.
	Maybe.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's a bad economy.
	Ooh, I got a little laugh out of you there.
	Can you just imagine the Sequoia guys going, hey, great quarter, guys.
	You're looking really good.
	You're executing the plan.
	We do have a question about this $10,000 a month fee for this Curry Dvorak Consulting Group.
	Is that really...
	What are they doing for you?
	Yeah.
	I can just see Kwame now.
	We have, actually I wanted to share a little karma story.
	For those of you who are new to the program, wondering what all this karma is about.
	You know, we don't sell it as a product.
	People ask for it, and for some reason it seems to work.
	Tom from NoAgendaPhoto.com says, I recently donated and requested karma for a better job.
	Even though I had to sit through Rudy Giuliani of a big oil gas law firm this morning, talk about how we need to keep fracking.
	I also experienced some serious karma results.
	A friend recommended me for a job doing camera audio work for a travel show in southern France for 10 days.
	And I got it.
	Karma.
	Southern France for 10 days has got to be great.
	That doesn't suck.
	I posted some photos from Occupy Wall Street at NoAgendaPhoto.com.
	I'll have to check on it again when I return.
	It's one of the strangest protests I've ever seen.
	Anyway, so that's a nice little karma story.
	And then we had a donation from Secret Agent Paul...
	And he asked me to do something very specific.
	He gave us a sound clip and a script to read.
	So, here we go.
	On this sixth day of October 2008...
	I'd like to announce the wedding of Secret Agent Paul, creator of such jingles as Words Do Matter, Adam C. Curry's Pet Peeve of the Day, and Drone Nation, to the beautiful, naughty nurse Danielle.
	So, by the power vested in me by the all-seeing nation of Gitmo, I now pronounce you Douchebag and Hornbag.
	Apparently, Hornbag is Aussie slang for bodacious babe.
	Really?
	Yeah, so they're married.
	Oh, that's sweet.
	You just witnessed it.
	The first wedding on no agenda.
	Did you have to sign any paperwork?
	Yeah, they're faxing it to me.
	That's cute, though.
	I like that.
	I like that.
	Hornbag.
	Hornbag.
	I was not aware of this hornbag thing.
	I kind of like that.
	Thank you very much, everyone, for supporting the program.
	As you, well, we already talked about it, no ads.
	And we think we do a pretty decent job.
	I'm actually still wading through the National Security, what was it, Homeland, whatever, Commission.
	There were some crazy quotes in there.
	We do a lot of that, watching C-SPAN, keeping an eye on the douchebag channels, really so that you don't have to do that.
	And those of you who have a commute, And I was actually commuting myself to Austin back and forth, and podcasts are a great thing for commutes.
	And I think that we'd probably help you get through some of the drudgery of that.
	And if you appreciate it and you think that it's worth it, it's a value-for-value model, all you have to do is go to dvorak.org slash N-A and slip us a little cash, a little donation.
	It won't hurt.
	It's your birthday, birthday I'm so hurt, champion As far as I can see, only one on the list today.
	Sir Jordi Ramirez says happy birthday to Beto Ech...
	Ech...
	Ech...
	Oh my goodness.
	Who celebrated on the 5th.
	That is yesterday.
	Happy birthday from your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.
	And then we have a couple of nights, John, since...
	It's like three to me.
	Yeah, that's absolutely right.
	So let me grab my blade here.
	here you might want to get the extra long one out for today scott hanko james carson and beto step forward please extend your middle finger and kneel before the round table you have all supported the no agenda podcast in the amount of one thousand dollars or more and therefore i can proudly name thee the following
	Sir Scott Hankel, Sir James Carson, and Sir Beto Echarazeta, Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable, please enjoy your hot pants and booze, your hookers and blow, your rent boys and chardonnay, and the fact that you are really keeping this show on the air.
	And who knows how long it will last.
	Because it's going to get messed up eventually.
	By a drone, probably.
	There was something I wanted to connect.
	We were talking about PBS earlier.
	Did you know that our national treasure, NPR, has a new CEO? Yeah, no, I do know that.
	In fact, I think it's another woman, right?
	No, correct.
	It is not.
	It is Gary Nell.
	Oh, I guess I don't know this guy.
	Yeah, well, so of course the headline reads, Gary Nell, K-N-E-L-L, president and CEO of Sesame Workshop, producers of Sesame Street educational children's TV show, has been named the new CEO and president of NPR. And of course that, you know, everyone's like, oh, Elmo is now, oh, big bird, oh, but if you actually look down a little bit and find out who this guy is, this is the guy who very much like, who's the Hummer woman from the New York Times?
	Yeah, the editor-in-chief.
	Yeah, what's her name?
	I don't know.
	Hummer.
	You know, these are the people that determine the news.
	So this guy is, you know, he's the new guy.
	Vivian Schiller was the woman who got kicked out.
	Let's look at his resume, shall we?
	Gary Nell, member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
	Oh, that's a good thing.
	And the U.S. National Commission for UNESCO. Serves as a director of executive search firm Hydric and Struggles.
	Is on the board of governors of the National Geographic Education Foundation and board member of AARP Services, who I'm sure will be advertising a lot.
	The Jacob Burns Film Center and Save the Children!
	He's a Council on Foreign Relations shill.
	Yeah?
	Well, be on the lookout.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	Let me get this straight.
	I'm stunned.
	You're stunned by this.
	I am completely stunned.
	I can't believe they brought a shill like that in.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	Been tracking the vaccine news.
	As we all know, we've been tracking this for years, knowing that it's much more cost effective.
	In fact, it's a bonanza to give medicine to people who aren't sick yet.
	This is great.
	So we've been following Alzheimer's for a while, and of course it's been in the news, and we've got the PR firms coming out with all kinds of studies, and they tried to hype it up a bit to get Lipitor re-patented as an Alzheimer's drug, because apparently cholesterol or something like that causes Alzheimer's.
	New study, John!
	New study!
	We have a new study out there, gentlemen.
	Breaking news!
	Would you believe that Alzheimer's may be transmissible?
	It turns out it may be a virus.
	Oh, there you go.
	So, is that a setup for a vaccine or what?
	Apparently.
	In the study, and then whenever there's a study, your alert signal should be slammed in the right-hand corner.
	The needle should be hitting in the red.
	In the study, mice injected with the human brain tissue from Alzheimer's patients developed Alzheimer's disease.
	Yeah, you're injecting brain tissue into mice.
	The mice developed brain damage characteristic of Alzheimer's disease.
	And over time, the damage spread throughout their brains.
	So it's transmissible, they're saying.
	Yeah, I'm sure if you eat somebody's brain...
	I guess, yeah, I think...
	I think the message is don't eat brains.
	This is not a good idea.
	Now, one of the interesting laws in Gitmo Nation of these United States is that by law, you cannot sue the pharmaceutical companies if something goes wrong with a vaccine.
	And they set this up on the verge of rolling out swine flu and all of this stuff.
	Yeah, for obvious reasons because the entire Congress and our whole government is in the pocket of the pharmacies.
	Pharmaceutical companies, I'm sorry.
	So this is not the case in Finland.
	I got this from our Wonderhelm producer up there in the Gitmo Nation of Reindeer.
	Pandemrix victims will be receiving compensation.
	Remember that Pandemrix swine flu vaccine, 92 people have so far notified the insurance pool because they all of a sudden had narcolepsy.
	This has now been confirmed around the world.
	There is a link between the Pandemrix swine flu vaccine and narcolepsy.
	And they're going to be paid out.
	And after the 30 million euro fund for compensation is exhausted, the state will take responsibility for funding more payouts.
	Huh.
	How come they get paid out?
	We get nothing.
	Well, they don't have that sorry-ass law on the books like we do.
	So we got suckered.
	You think?
	Wait a minute.
	You're stunned?
	We should look at the congressmen and senators who voted for this law.
	Yeah.
	We should.
	Why do these people not get voted out?
	We need to put up a website that calls out these guys.
	I mean, like, there's ISA. Yeah, well, this is the whole problem with Occupy Wall Street, is you're occupying the wrong space.
	You've got to vote people out of office.
	You've got to call for a regime change.
	You've got to ask for the dictator who's killing his own people, which is the truth.
	Legal or illegal or whatever, our president ordered an American citizen to be killed and killed two in one go.
	So it's the same thing.
	Killed two Americans with a drone.
	On purpose.
	On purpose.
	And he threatened the Jonas Brothers.
	I mean, let's be honest.
	You know, that's assault.
	You have assault and battery.
	That's egregious right there.
	No batteries, just verbal assault.
	No, it's part one of assault and battery.
	You know, we're being screwed.
	Then we should have a no-fly zone.
	Yeah, we need a no-fly zone over this country.
	As we know, and this was promised, Gitmo Nation East, the United Kingdom, is on the verge of choosing the HPV vaccine.
	And I actually heard this story, I think, mentioned on Dvorak Horowitz Unplugged.
	And we were warned.
	Remember I got the note from the Minister of Parliament from one of his human resources.
	He said, look, don't tell anyone you got this from, but it looks like there's a beauty contest going on.
	Look for some PR from both the two competing firms to get the big government contract, and they bring it out again.
	Oral sex may cause more throat cancer than smoking in men, say researchers.
	Yeah.
	Researchers.
	So this is all to get Gardasil approved because it actually takes care of vaginal warts, which is part of...
	I guess you get a vaginal wart in your throat or something like that.
	It's all PR. It's all PR to get the big contract.
	And then finally, in the United States of Europe, study shows 38.2% of the European Union populace has mental problems.
	Well, you can see why.
	And they need to have proper treatment.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's a good one.
	And they need to have proper treatment.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, it...
	Whoa.
	It is so coming.
	It is so coming.
	Here it is, slaves.
	Just take your man's son.
	Just take your man's place.
	So I picked up a clip one night.
	I don't know why I'm picking up so many of these clips.
	I'm just looking for the one gaffe.
	Uh-huh.
	So I didn't realize.
	Now, Donald Rumsfeld has been pushing his idiotic book.
	Is he still out doing that?
	Yeah, but the last place he did it was on Al Jazeera, where a guy asked him a simple question, apparently he didn't cover the book, and Rumsfeld got completely bent out of shape and felt he was being intimidated, and the guy was yelling at him, and he wasn't.
	And meanwhile, this woman, Huddy, Huddy?
	Huddy, who's one of those shills on Fox, she defends Rumsfeld, and then she drops in a little factoid that I was totally unaware of.
	Rumsfeld thinking he was on Fox and Friends?
	I mean, come on, you go to Al Jazeera, they're going to crank up some numbers you never heard about, and you can give it to them.
	But the interviewer wasn't yelling at them.
	I didn't see that, did you?
	No.
	No, it got testy, and the interviewer, I think, was totally disrespectful.
	I mean, look, you're sitting there talking to somebody who was the leader of our country, and he was essentially calling Rumsfeld a liar.
	The leader of our country, eh?
	Yeah, you were talking to the leader of our country.
	That's right.
	Well, she knows what she's talking about.
	She knows what side her bread is buttered.
	The leader of our country.
	Huh.
	How does that work?
	I don't know.
	That's the kind of news you get on Fox.
	One of the great analysts.
	No wonder I don't watch that.
	I do.
	Yeah.
	Well, someone has to.
	And I think it's really good that you do, actually.
	So, to catch these little odd, I don't know, maybe she thought he was the president.
	I have no idea what she was thinking when she said that.
	And notice O'Reilly didn't go like...
	No, O'Reilly is so self-absorbed, I've only seen him catch gaffs rarely.
	Once in a while he does.
	Shadow Puppet Theater!
	A new government formed in Haiti.
	It's done.
	Finally, Gary Connell, he's in.
	Of course, just to remind you, United Nations Development Specialist and aide to Bill Clinton, ratified by the Haitian Senate after a debate.
	Wait a minute.
	Aide to Bill Clinton?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	What?
	Yeah.
	Wait, let me get this straight.
	Yeah.
	The new head of Haiti?
	The prime minister, yes.
	Prime minister, yeah.
	Well, no, we have the president who was elected.
	Yeah, the musician.
	He's in the band.
	Yeah.
	Sweet Nicky Martelli.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And this guy?
	And the prime minister who effectively has more power.
	And he was Bill Clinton's aide.
	Oh, by the way, whatever happened to all that money Bill Clinton collected for Haiti?
	That billions of dollars?
	For some reason, we just haven't seen it, you know?
	How can we stop talking about it?
	Nobody's even mentioning it anymore.
	Just send your cash.
	Well, because there's more important things going on.
	You know, like Sarah Palin not running for president.
	You know, there's all kinds of stuff.
	Because, you know, I think it is good to remind people about this.
	Because you got duped.
	And you got duped into all the tears and the sadness and the texting money and billions and billions from around the world.
	And Bill Clinton stole it.
	He stole it.
	Where is that money?
	It's not in Haiti.
	And then he puts his guy in.
	Maybe now the funds will be released.
	Do you think that would be a way to do it?
	Well, they're going to be released eventually, but we predicted this from the get-go.
	It's going to be released on the North Shore in a series of fantastic hotels.
	Yeah, it's going to build...
	I mean, why should Mexico, Cancun and these places and Cabo...
	Get all the business.
	Get all the tourists.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And by the way, it's inconvenient.
	If you're on the East Coast, like even in Florida, and it's a really short trip to Haiti...
	So go to Haiti and live it up instead of going to Cancun.
	And Mexico has a lot of problems.
	There's drug lords shooting people.
	Yeah, and in Haiti now, you know, they're making nice baskets.
	There's a lot of good art there.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's the one place they're restored is the art fair.
	Yeah, no, it's good work.
	Good work, Bill!
	Douchebag.
	So there's a big party on October 15th, and we love to read through these invites.
	Chelsea Clinton and her husband Mark Mesvinsky...
	We are throwing a bash for President Clinton, former President Clinton, a Decade of Difference concert at the Hollywood Bowl.
	Now, we just have to, it's just funny to read through this for his 65th birthday gala at the Hollywood Palladium where Stevie Nicks and special guests will be performing, but at the Hollywood Bowl, Lady Gaga.
	The Edge and Bono, Usher, and more special guests.
	And for $25,000, John, we could have an all-star weekend experience under their VIP... What a scam this is.
	So they're selling these packages to this event.
	For $25,000, you get the All-Star Weekend experience.
	It includes two preferred seats at President Clinton's 65th birthday gala.
	Two preferred seats?
	What is that?
	I don't know.
	What does that mean?
	Preferred.
	Would you prefer this one or that one?
	And two preferred VIP tickets to the Hollywood Bowl concert.
	Now, of course, if you just want to attend the gala, it's $6,500 per couple.
	John, I think you and I are a couple, so we could go.
	If you want preferred seating at the Hollywood Bowl, the diamond ticket is $5,000 a person, the platinum, $2,500, and the gold ticket is $1,000.
	But, but, but, but, if you really want to join the host committee, for $500,000 to $1 million, $500,000 is a co-chair, or you can be a chair.
	You can be a chair.
	Someone sit on me?
	For one million dollars, you get to attend the VIP sound check on Friday.
	Yeah, I want to hear Lady Gaga sound checking.
	The sound check?
	That's worth a million bucks to me.
	Testing.
	One, one, one, one, one, two, two, three.
	One, two, two, two, check, two, two.
	Sound check.
	You're a chair and someone sits on you during the sound check.
	But you also get to attend a brunch hosted by Chelsea and a presidential golf outing with the president on Sunday.
	For a million dollars?
	Yeah.
	Better get more than that.
	And you get official host committee recognition.
	So we should, I think we do these once in a while, these kind of deconstructing these invites.
	We need to do a follow-up on this one and see who the douchebags are that became the committee members.
	The chair, the chair.
	We want to see who the chair is.
	We've got to find out who it is.
	Now I heard from, now who was telling me this?
	Oh, a friend of ours does makeup for douchebag women in Los Angeles.
	And she works for a big expensive store and when people are in town they often call up the store and they say, you know, send a makeup artist over.
	And she was sent over to do Chelsea Clinton and her mom was there and her husband was there and she said, Adam, it's unbelievable.
	Chelsea Clinton is going to be running for some type of office.
	And this is why she's doing this, why now all of a sudden she's hosting all of this stuff.
	This is basically a fundraiser for her, or at least to get her attention, because she wants to go into politics, just like her mom.
	And she is running, I don't know what, but she will be running for office.
	Put that in the book.
	Not as a prediction, but as a prediction.
	Yeah.
	How awesome is that?
	That's a good catch.
	That's a good catch.
	And another clippity-clop.
	And it makes sense.
	Yeah.
	I love it.
	And so the people who, the douchebags who cough up this kind of money so they can go listen to Bono.
	And the edge.
	They get on the mailing list.
	Yeah, they get on the mailing list and we get to see who they are.
	Mm-hmm.
	If they publish that, I wonder if they would keep it a secret.
	We should look.
	So, I am looking...
	Hayden is the guy.
	Former NSACI director Michael Hayden.
	He apparently was in the...
	What was it?
	The National Intelligence Committee.
	He was talking about how we have to have more eavesdropping on networks in order to defend against malicious activity from nation states and others.
	This is what I'll be doing after the show, looking at the rerun of that on C-SPAN. I did see a job on USA Jobs.
	Someone sent me this.
	Positions under the supervision of the Director and Deputy Director, Public Diplomacy Training Division, School of Professional Area Studies.
	As an expert in social media platforms, including monitoring methods, evaluation and analytics tools, and strategic planning, interactive technologies, course design, and knowledge management, the incumbent of this position is responsible for the performance duties involved in carrying out the functional responsibilities of the division.
	And this is from USAJobs.gov.
	And let me give you the title of this job.
	They're hiring techno experts.
	Job title, Social Media and Technology Specialist Instructor for the Department of State.
	So this is Hillary is hiring.
	Full-time term appointment.
	Renewable at the option of the agency.
	Promotion potential 13, whatever that means.
	GS-13 is as high as you can go.
	Yeah, $74,000.
	Oh no, up to $115,000.
	Wow.
	GS-13.
	Maybe I should go get that job.
	Yeah, if you can tweet, then you can make $115,000 a year apparently.
	Yeah.
	Citizenship is required.
	Must be able to obtain and maintain a secret security clearance.
	Incumbent will be subject to random drug testing, and you have a one-year trial period.
	This is very interesting.
	If you're looking for this job...
	And by the way, this is a teaching position, so it would be great to have one of our own techno experts in this job to slip in some stuff.
	Social Media and Technology Specialist Instructor.
	For monitoring social networks.
	Yeah, that's the ticket, baby.
	Love that.
	Kimo Nation East, as we whip around the horn, at Bath, Bath Rail Station, full naked body scanner.
	Congratulations on you.
	Where's this?
	In Bath, in the UK. Seven foot body scanner that you have to walk through before getting on the train.
	Before getting on what?
	On the train.
	Really?
	Yes.
	So they're X-ranked train customers in Bath, England?
	Yes.
	Why?
	Because they're terrorists there.
	There's no terrorists there.
	Yeah, there are.
	Terrorists in Bath.
	Bullcrap.
	In Gitmo Nation, Brussels sprouts, bad news, 506 people Are still waiting for their Gitmo Nation jewelry.
	As they have been...
	Over 500 people...
	And this is from Baron Staven von Pelsmarkers...
	Have been waiting for a GPS bracelet.
	An anklet.
	Lindsay Lohan jewelry.
	Apparently they can't make them fast enough.
	Gitmo Nation lowlands.
	They've got the alcohol interlock...
	It's done.
	It's in.
	Starting December, if you get caught drinking, or if you get caught just with keys in your hands on the way to your car, you'll get a device installed, which you have to pay for, which will, you know, your car won't start unless you blow into it.
	Blow my car.
	On the upside, shoes-on screening begins this week at four U.S. airports.
	In Miami, Dallas, Detroit, and Atlanta.
	Yeah, you have to go through the pre-clearance, though.
	Yeah, it's the pre-check.
	It's the scam.
	Yeah, this is the...
	You still have to go through the naked body scanner, but you can keep your shoes on.
	Yeah.
	That's the big joke of it.
	It's a joke.
	What difference does it make?
	It's not a big deal to take your shoes off.
	By the way, we both opted out at LAX going to Austin.
	I have to say, they're very courteous, not a problem, and did not go to full resistance.
	Did he go on and on about the back of the hand?
	Yeah, it went about the back of the hand, the back of the hand, the back of the hand.
	And he said, okay, I'm going to go up the pant legs until I feel resistance.
	But I didn't feel no resistance, and Mickey didn't either.
	I didn't get no resistance.
	Now, on the way back from Austin, Austin's not having that crap.
	It was almost like old times.
	It's just like a little line set up.
	Everyone's whipping through.
	One magnetometer.
	Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
	All the way through.
	Done.
	Real fast.
	Austin's having none of that crap.
	Didn't they sue or something?
	I don't know.
	I know that there's a lot of air.
	I run into airports here and there.
	When I came back from Brazil, there wasn't anything like that.
	Nothing.
	Good.
	I like it.
	And then they dropped us off in New York, which then there was a long line to get through customs, and then you had to recheck in, and then there was no scanner there in New York City.
	Good.
	Good.
	And on the way out, there was a scanner thing, but I just, I didn't even opt out.
	I just went over to the magnetometer and walked through it, and nobody said anything.
	Yeah.
	So that was odd.
	Well, the whole thing is, well, as we know, it's a scam.
	It's a scam.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Someone alerted me to this, and I didn't know that this was actually taking place.
	And, of course, I wouldn't know, seeing as my vehicles are both from 1999.
	Did you know that all new cars sold in California, and I believe it's now rolling out to other states in the union, have to have...
	The global warming score?
	Oh no, I didn't know that since you were talking about black boxes.
	No.
	There's a global warming score on the car?
	Yes.
	It literally has a global warming score and there's a number next to it.
	I didn't know this.
	Yeah.
	I'll have to go to a car dealer now and check this out.
	So, greenhouse gases emitted from vehicles include carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, and hydrofluorocarbons from air-conditioned refrigerant.
	The sum of all these greenhouse gas emissions are identified as the CO2 equivalent value, which is used to determine a vehicle's global warming score.
	How the global warming score is determined.
	These are government documents, by the way, John.
	So, the global warming score is based on emissions data from ARB's Motor Vehicle Greenhouse Gas Emissions Regulation, known as AB 1493, or PAVELY. The greenhouse gas regulation establishes a CO2 equivalent value that includes all the various global warming gases based on their relative contribution to global warming.
	This is bogus!
	So it said as follows, the global warming score is CO2 plus 296 times N20 plus 23 times CH4 minus AC direct emissions allowance minus AC indirect emissions allowance.
	And if you can calculate that, then you have the global warming score.
	I did just slap in a number on this shit.
	Someone sent me a picture of a car that has a global warming score of 7.
	I didn't know if that's good or not.
	Is it good or bad?
	But how crazy is that?
	That's dumb.
	The science is in on that, huh?
	Yeah, I would say.
	Wow.
	I can't top that.
	Alright.
	I have two odd clips we can push off until Sunday.
	Well, if you want to do one, I'm cool with that.
	If you want to just roll one out.
	Let's do the one that's kind of the funnier of the two.
	No, actually, let's do the one that's more of an Ask Adam thing.
	Which is that The question remains...
	I don't know why, but this is starting to show up as a meme, which is to rethink the 80s as some great era.
	And this is kind of your era.
	So I was going to ask you...
	Is that were the 80s great?
	Because these guys seem to think so.
	You can play.
	This is from Good Morning America, I believe.
	The great things that the magazine did.
	And I guess that's being careful, Chuck.
	We're a family program, after all.
	And we don't want to.
	No fines levied this way.
	But yeah, we're going to take a look.
	It's going to be great.
	What a tease.
	Alright, more 80s now.
	The big reason we believe that the 80s were just so addictive is in fact the music.
	We all remember singing along to those catchy tunes, often by groups who ruled the charts one week and then where'd they go?
	So we have brought back another treasure of the 80s, the mixtape, for one more look at the one-hit wonder.
	Those infectious beats.
	The cowbell.
	Just what exactly is it about 80s music that makes us do this?
	And what exactly defines the 80s?
	Ask Adam.
	Ask Adam.
	Yeah!
	So, just by the way, this feature, I recorded it and I recorded it.
	It was a good 10 to 15 minutes of clips claiming that for one thing the 80s were...
	The 80s were the era of the one-hit wonders, when in fact, I don't care what genre, what era you're talking about, it's always, especially the 50s, one-hit wonders is like this theme of all music, it seems to me, from every era.
	60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, one-hit wonder, one-hit wonder.
	So you tell me, were the 80s that great, in your opinion, compared to the more creative 70s?
	Well...
	First of all, I'm looking for the movie.
	There's got to be a movie tie-in somewhere.
	There's got to be some promotion.
	There's got to be a movie coming out.
	So someone will probably find that and send it to me.
	So unfortunately, I wasn't of sex-having age in the 70s.
	I hear the 70s was great for sex.
	And everyone, you know, we didn't have AIDS. We were just all screwing around.
	It was like, hey, you know, take her.
	Hey, thanks.
	You know, like, oh, hey, what's your name?
	Fred.
	Ah, that's cool.
	You know, whatever.
	Exactly.
	So, for my bicuriousness, I think that probably would have been a great time to be alive.
	Could this be related to Footloose, perhaps?
	Maybe because they're bringing back Footloose?
	The movie?
	Maybe.
	It's a possibility.
	I think you're right with the movie thing, though.
	Yeah, so it's probably that.
	Who else would you bring up this thesis?
	Yeah.
	And then Milk, it wasn't like they just had a little quick hit on this.
	This went on and on and on with, you know, it was unbelievable, actually, how long it went.
	Everything's a movie.
	I don't even know why I brought it up.
	The crazy thing was, in the middle of the 80s, like 87, I was so oblivious to what was going on around me, and of course it was great.
	I was at MTV, rocking it out.
	When we had the biggest crash on Wall Street in October of 1987, I didn't give a crap.
	It didn't affect me in the slightest bit.
	At all.
	Yeah.
	And wasn't the economy all shot to hell then in the 80s?
	No, no, that was just a one-shot deal, that 87 crash.
	But then the 90s started.
	I remember the 90s, the very beginning of the 90s, I remember sitting, watching television with my just-born daughter, and it was the Gulf War I. Right.
	And so in that respect, in that regard, the 80s was probably better because, you know what, it's stupid.
	It's a promotion.
	We just need to figure out what it's for.
	Yeah, you're right.
	It has nothing to do with anything.
	Yeah, we shouldn't even bother deconstructing it.
	We just did.
	Yeah, it's a movie promotion.
	That's what it is.
	We just have to figure it out.
	But I think what Lewis, I was from the chatroom, I think that's probably a reasonable assumption.
	So I ran into, just as a last little thing here, I ran into, we were watching television, and we talk about Jeff Smith and the jingles and all this.
	I was stunned to run into a jingle for a company in the Salinas Valley called Classic Drains and Plumbing, which was like...
	It was either a Jeff Smith jingle or whatever, but I've never seen in my life, and I didn't think it was, I was like stunned by this.
	I didn't think it was necessarily effective, but I've never heard a plumbing company with a song.
	Classic trees and plumbing.
	Three generations raising up sons and daughters.
	To make sure your plumbing isn't working for us.
	Generations of plumbers, plastic drains and plumbing.
	Plastic drains and plumbing.
	Yeah, well, you know, that stuff stays with you.
	It's just genius.
	Is that the weirdest thing you've ever heard?
	No, because we've got a flooring company in Los Angeles that has a jingle.
	Sons and Daughters, Generations.
	Empire Today.
	And we've got the flooring company with Empire Today.
	The jingles are great.
	People don't realize it.
	Jeff Smith should be a billionaire.
	Yeah, and the funny thing is he works cheap.
	Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, it's true.
	No, jingle writers, if you can find them, the problem with getting a jingle, like this one or any one of them, first you've got to find the jingle writer, and they're not that easy to find.
	That's the problem.
	And then they crank this stuff out.
	It's like right off the top of their heads, and so it's a day rate.
	It doesn't take them months to do one of these.
	Right, right.
	So I would recommend people go to Jeff Smith and give him some work.
	Yeah, Sir Jeff Smith.
	G-E-O-F-F. That's exactly the ticket.
	All right.
	Wow, we rocked through two and a half hours there, John.
	Good.
	Yeah, that is good.
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