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	She has hooves, man.
	Sounds like the Budweiser wagon company.
	I'm telling you, she's got hooves.
	Clippity-clop, clippity-clop.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	Sunday, October 2nd, 2011.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media assassination.
	Episode 344.
	This is No Agenda.
	Coordinating the new casting call from the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center, and the People's Republic of Southern California.
	In the morning from your new chief external organizer, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from foggy northern Silicon Valley, where it's, um, let me think, foggy, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's a crackpot in Buzzkill.
	We always enjoy a weather report on a podcast.
	There's nothing quite like it.
	It's great.
	That way people can feel better about themselves.
	Hey, three weeks ago it was foggy.
	Please.
	It's a podcast, John.
	It's one of those...
	People are listening on the fly.
	Yeah, that's true.
	That's true.
	And I saw on the spreadsheet that we probably have about 1.7% donating the $10 at the end of the show.
	So I'm moving up.
	Oh, I didn't look at the $10 thing.
	That's all I look at.
	Hey, you didn't have to scroll that far.
	That's true.
	Hey, in the morning to you, John.
	In the morning to you, Adam.
	And in the morning, all ships at sea and boots on the ground, if any of you are listening, also feet in the air, which I'm sure you're not.
	And if you came to us as a LewRockwell.com reader of his site, in the morning to you.
	This is the No Agenda Show, the best podcast in the universe.
	We got a link from lourockwell.com yesterday.
	Oh yeah?
	Did it result in any link love?
	Yeah, it resulted in crashing the server.
	I was up until like 12.30 trying to keep the thing running.
	Why?
	I don't know.
	Any rinky-dink operations that you're running over?
	Yeah, well, case in point.
	That's what it is.
	Rinky-dink operations.
	Just me.
	Were they going to the...
	Huh?
	Yeah, I was linking...
	Why weren't they just linking directly to the...
	Where did the link go?
	Where was it?
	It was linking into the N.A. show notes, into the asset archive.
	It was...
	N.A. NoagendaShow.com is a Squarespace site, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, what I would have done if I had known about it earlier is I would have made a little YouTube video of the clip when we were talking about Jon Stewart omitting Ron Paul's, the best part of the Ron Paul interview.
	And I would have done a little YouTube video and I would have redirected to that, which would have been great.
	But, you know, rinky-dink operation.
	That's what it is.
	And, of course, in the morning to all of the human resources who are charged up this morning, ready to go in the chat room at noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net.
	Good to see y'all.
	And I think that we should probably start today with Occupy Wall Street.
	Well, there's been a bunch of people arrested finally because they had to basically stop the traffic on the Brooklyn Bridge.
	Please arrest me!
	Arrest me!
	This is very interesting.
	We, of course, started basically pre-promoting this three weeks ago.
	Then there was no coverage.
	And now, as predicted, the mainstream media is all over it in two ways.
	One is, gee, we don't really know what it's about.
	What do they want?
	It's kind of confusing.
	And the other one is, of course, that the shills are showing up, which I have a couple of horrible examples, and I think I have some advice for our Occupy Wall Streeters, because, of course, people are just pissed off.
	Listen to this NBC report.
	I wanted to get a mainstream...
	News report about, you know, how this is being told to the masses because, you know, CNN and Fox News, that's a very small percentage that watches that.
	I think PBS and NBC is where most, you know, I think the big masses will get their news from that.
	What began with a small disorganized protest on Wall Street in lower Manhattan here in New York has grown today to demonstrations nationwide against corporate greed.
	From New York to L.A., even up in Maine, people took to the streets to express their anger and make sure their message is heard.
	But what exactly is their message?
	Oh, nice setup!
	We sent NBC's Michelle Franzen to find out.
	By the way, Michelle Franzen, do you know her?
	Smoking!
	We are 99%!
	Two weeks and counting, several hundred faithful protesters continue to camp out at a park near Wall Street.
	Their numbers grow each day, fueled by the power of social media.
	So they're showing like hippies sitting around banging on drums.
	A few scuffles with NYPD and the common...
	A scuffle.
	It's just a scuffle when you get maced and...
	Threat of discontent over high unemployment and distrust of government and corporations.
	There's something unjust going on right now in this economy, in this society.
	John Avidable drove from Connecticut to speak out.
	Because we can't pay...
	Now listen to the people.
	This is always very important.
	So now this guy, of course, he's not a representative of the movement, but they put him on TV, so this is what the movement is being represented by as far as the public is concerned.
	...for big expensive lobbyists to work for what we want...
	The sit-in has turned into a small community, complete with a food kitchen and media center.
	But by design, there is no one leader of this group and no organized set of demands.
	We're each doing our own thing, but we're doing it together.
	We're coming together and we're saying, things need to be changed.
	How are we going to do this?
	Protesters may still be working to define their message, but the complaints of corporate greed and social inequality are resonating far beyond the streets of New York.
	We are In Los Angeles today, protesters took to the streets to show solidarity.
	I can't travel to Nisi, I can't travel to New York, so I think it's great that we are doing this in cities across the United States.
	Even in Portland, Maine, a hundred people turned out.
	The movement, labor experts say, is also gaining the attention of high-profile activists like Michael Moore and union leaders, backing that could elevate the conversation to the political stage.
	This is the liberal version of the Tea Party, especially with young people who are getting mobilized and expressing their grievances.
	I think this could potentially carry over into the 2012 elections and get people to the polls.
	So, more or less as we predicted, this is now being marginalized by making it so completely not understood by the smart people who are on television.
	And it's amazing that when you have exactly the same protests going on in Greece or in Spain or the past two days even in France...
	Don't forget Israel.
	Well, Israel, but of course the Arab Spring, then it's understood.
	Well, of course, these people are getting screwed.
	But here it's like, I don't understand.
	Don't we live in the greatest country in the world?
	I just don't understand it.
	You know, I should mention that there's apparently a similar event taking place in San Francisco, which is getting zero coverage by all our media.
	So, I mean, everything's a fractal.
	So, the San Francisco event is not discussed at all by anyone, just like the rest of it.
	Then it will be discussed unless it peters out.
	Well, here's the warning I have to people who are participating in this.
	And, of course, I encourage, and I think it's a great idea, Although I would much rather see media hacking going on because you're now being hacked by the media.
	That's what's happening.
	And it's really sad.
	So either we have to get to a point where the National Guard comes out and then we really have like a square type of event.
	But now they've brought out the shills.
	And please, I beg you, if Michael Moore shows up again, stand in front of him with a V for Vendetta mask and say, Corporate shill!
	Corporate shill!
	That's what you have to do.
	Russell Simmons...
	Russell Simmons, who is a hundred millionaire, he actually, on his blog or website, he says, he says, please raise my taxes.
	And he goes and he sits down there in New York.
	Now, I have an interview with him.
	Hey, you know, by the way, somebody should remind me, you can voluntarily pay any taxes.
	Yeah, there's a little checkbox on your return.
	I won't be taking advantage of that this year.
	You can help pay down the national debt, that's sure.
	So Russell Simmons is on, I think, MSNBC, and he has an IFB in.
	An earpiece.
	And you can see it because he's fumbling with it at the beginning of the interview.
	And they're talking to him.
	And I want you to pay attention to what happens because they clearly...
	The minute he goes a little off the reservation because he's there essentially to propagate another hijack, which is the president's message.
	So this is now being hijacked on multiple sides.
	Russell Simmons being flown in direct from the White House.
	To get the jobs bill up in front and attach the jobs bill to this act.
	And you can actually, you can almost hear the producer yelling in his ear and listen to the shillage that this guy is spewing.
	I think that we need some adjustments.
	And I think the protesters represent a growing number of Americans who feel that there is a class warfare.
	Class warfare?
	Good talking point.
	...waging a great war on the middle class and working class and poor Americans that are suffering.
	I think that corporate control of our government is...
	Did I do something wrong?
	I think corporate control of our government.
	And the producer goes, no, no, no, no.
	Did I say something wrong?
	Did I do something wrong?
	Play that back.
	I'll play it all the way through.
	You can hear him backpedal on it.
	It's dripping.
	Corporate control of our government is undue and...
	Oh, it's undue.
	Okay.
	That's the word they whisper to.
	Just say undue.
	Undue that!
	Who feel that there is a class warfare and the rich are waging a great war on the middle class and working class.
	Who's this guy kidding?
	Now listen to it again.
	And here comes the bit where they're yelling in his ear.
	And poor Americans that are suffering.
	I think that corporate control of our government is...
	Is...
	Did I do something wrong?
	It's stripped.
	Corporate control of our government is undue.
	He's literally holding his hand up to his ear.
	Did I do something wrong?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Oh, I shouldn't have said that corporate.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	It's undo.
	Because you know someone said, undo that!
	Whatever you said, undo it!
	Undo.
	And also all special interests, and I believe that we need to do something about that.
	I think that's one of the first steps.
	I think we should be very careful to protect our social programs, and I think they're making the Republicans mostly have personal opinion, the Republicans, who are receiving 10 to 15 times more special interest money.
	It's the Republicans!
	Living on the Republicans.
	What a dude!
	Well, hold on a second.
	I've got a douchebag over that.
	Let's keep going, Russell.
	Corporate money have to be exposed, and we have to discuss this on a national stage.
	And this is a small seed that could grow into a great movement.
	I was going to ask you that.
	You've decided to join this process.
	You're a businessman, but you're also a citizen.
	You heard Mayor Michael Bloomberg say last week that if this disparity of wealth It wasn't reduced.
	We're going to see riots in the streets.
	Of course.
	You know, the poor have nothing to eat.
	The next thing they can eat is the rich.
	Eat the rich!
	There it is!
	Good one.
	Keep on going.
	Russell, you're doing great now.
	Russell, you're doing great.
	Eat the rich.
	You're doing great.
	Keep going.
	I mean, it's really, it's getting worse.
	I got a $100 million check.
	I gave away $10 million or so.
	All my employees, every single one, paid more taxes than I did.
	Yay!
	What?
	All his employees, he got a $100 million check from, I don't know, Obama.
	He gave away $10 million to all his employees and they paid more taxes than he did.
	Collectively, maybe.
	It's a lie.
	It's a lie.
	It's bullcrap.
	This guy's in the same ship that Buffett's on, which is the ship of bullcrap.
	Yeah.
	You know, floating like a turd in the toilet.
	Give me a break.
	So, Michael Bloomberg was raised there once again, and this, of course, is an older interview from several weeks ago, where he says, you know, riots on the streets.
	But listen to Michael Bloomberg these past few days, morning radio show in New York City.
	The protesters are protesting against people who make $40,000, $50,000 a year and are struggling to make ends meet.
	That's the bottom line.
	Those are the people that work on Wall Street or in the finance sector.
	What planet is this guy from?
	The people who work on Wall Street make $40,000, $50,000 a year?
	Really?
	What, are you talking about the janitors?
	Probably.
	At Goldman Sachs, they're probably doing better.
	But there's more.
	We need the banks.
	If the banks don't go out and make loans, we will not come out of our economic problems.
	We will not have jobs.
	And so anything we can do to responsibly help the banks do that, encourage them to do that, is what we need.
	I think we spend much too much time in this country worrying about why we got into problems as opposed to how we go forward.
	Also, we always tend to blame the wrong people.
	We blame the banks.
	They were part of this, but so was Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae and Congress.
	They were just part of it.
	I mean, we're blaming the wrong people.
	Stop looking back.
	Look at history.
	Move forward.
	Eat the rich.
	And here's the kicker.
	This was some live interview in New York this past week.
	Well, nobody has any confidence.
	If you're a bank and you have money, would you make a loan when people are talking about putting you in jail for what happened in the mortgage crisis three, four years ago?
	You hunker down.
	Hey, if you want a loan, stop trying to put me in jail.
	Isn't that what loan sharks do?
	Man, I'll give you a loan as long as you don't turn me into the federales.
	Well, I don't know how Bloomberg's expecting the banks to do anything.
	Here, play the depressing clip of the week.
	I think summarizes a situation where banks aren't going to loan anybody anything.
	Oh, it's kind of early to get depressed, but let's rock it.
	...currency like the Japanese yen, that the most recent inflation number was 3.8%, well above the Fed's target.
	So I don't buy the argument that in a weak economy you don't get inflation.
	You gave the example of Germany.
	Spain at the moment has 20% unemployment.
	Prices are rising.
	Britain has a high unemployment rate.
	Prices are rising.
	So there are other sources other than the labor market to give you inflation, and we're going to get them.
	Mr.
	Edwards?
	There's these gigantic negative risks out there that something big and bad is going to happen to the American economy.
	We don't know what it is.
	If you go back and look at the January 2008 CBO projection, they didn't project a recession.
	They said, well, maybe a recession would happen, but they actually projected growth would be strengthening in coming years.
	So we're going to be surprised by...
	The next big recession or negative factor.
	If you look at CBO projections, I mean, there's no recessions in the 10-year outlook, but what if we have a gigantic recession a few years from now, another major recession?
	You know, tax revenues would plunge again.
	Unemployment comp costs would soar.
	A lot of policymakers would want to do another giant stimulus, and we'd be in this sort of spiral downwards of debt and poor economic growth.
	So, you know, we've got to start planning now The risk factors are all on the negative side.
	European countries have this horrible demographic problem worse than ours.
	Their debt loads are going up.
	So the higher their debt loads become and the higher ours becomes, the more risk of an international sort of a contagion, the more we're all at sort of a tipping point.
	And if Europe can go into another deep recession, it would cause a deep recession here.
	So the risks are all on the ugly side, I think.
	Okay, in my last 15 seconds, any of you want to comment on the thing?
	Here we go, everybody.
	Follow the bouncing ball.
	I'm here again.
	Let the farm begin.
	Happy days are here.
	Happy days are here again.
	You weren't singing along.
	That was good.
	Yeah.
	So was it, someone sent me a note, which I thought was kind of interesting in relations to all of this, and you just mentioned yourself that we are essentially witnessing a fractal, you being the cycle man and lord of fractals.
	Fractal mania.
	This Sunday, 1340, burning nitro funny cars.
	Fractal mania.
	John C. Dvorak's Lexus.
	The old one.
	In 1848, there were revolutions.
	Do you recall the revolutions of 1848?
	Well, I think there was a French Revolution, for starters.
	Okay, and what was that about?
	It was about eating the rich.
	Yeah?
	It was, I don't know, I wasn't there actually.
	I just missed it.
	Are you sure?
	The European Revolutions of 1848, known in some countries as, you'll love this, the Spring of Nations, Springtime of the Peoples.
	Spring time for Hitler.
	Spring time for Hitler.
	I know, that's what I thought too.
	So this whole spring thing is even a fractal.
	It's just, this is the script, and we should probably, and I'm kind of counting on you, to go back and take a look at 1848.
	Over 50 countries were affected, but there was no coordination or cooperation amongst the revolutionaries in the different countries.
	Five factors were involved.
	The widespread dissatisfaction with political leadership, the demand for more participation in democracy, the demands of the working classes, the upsurge of nationalism, and finally, the regrouping of the reactionary forces based in the royalty, the aristocracy, the army, and the peasants.
	So here's what I suggest.
	If you are put on camera, and you probably won't be if you're smart and you have something intelligent to say because it's going to put the chick with his finger symbols on TV. Oh, yes.
	Yes, hello, hello.
	We're 99%.
	If someone says, what is this about?
	You just have to say exactly the same thing as the Arab Spring.
	We want regime change and we want the evil dictator removed.
	Let me mention this to people out there who follow my cycles theory.
	Let's take a look at 1848, which was a moment in history, and go through the 40-year cycle.
	We go from 1848 to 1888, which was just the beginning before we had the 1893 dead-on crash, which mimics 1928, which is another 40 years later, which was, again, which mimics 1928, which is another 40 years later, which was, again, a moment in history just before
	Then we had 1968, which, of course, had the same kind of revolutionary fervor with the hippies and all the rest, 1968, just before the crash, which happened the next year, and then another 40 years later.
	We had 2008, which had the housing crash.
	So this is all just like luck to me.
	This is all lockstep, predictable stuff.
	So this is good, because Lois, our PR expert, has said we need to predict stuff so that she can then go tell mainstream media how great we are.
	What?
	Yeah.
	So what is next in your fractal theory, John?
	What is the next step?
	The clip that you heard, the gloom and doom guy at the end, was the Kato Institute character.
	And I think what's next is more of the same.
	I think this is just the beginning.
	That's not a prediction.
	That's not good enough.
	Well, what am I supposed to do?
	Okay, somebody's going to get shot.
	I don't know.
	Very good.
	I like that one.
	Michael Moore?
	Well, probably not.
	So anyway, what's going to happen, of course, we're going to have a huge, you know, another downturn because it's already shaping up.
	Unemployment is going to go above 10% probably for the first time for a while.
	And so I have a question.
	I've always wanted to ask you this.
	It's all bogus, by the way, because unemployment is actually about 22% right now.
	I wanted to ask you a question about this.
	So if you have inflation, right, and let's say we have kind of like big inflation, how many percent would that be?
	Like runaway inflation.
	Well, runaway inflation is ridiculous.
	I mean, I was in Brazil during its era of runaway inflation, where you have hyperinflation.
	We've never experienced that, and I don't think that's going to happen.
	Okay, well, let's just say...
	Five or six percent, maybe.
	Okay, so is it the case then that, let's say, you think the market on housing, for instance, or anything, a car, No, let's go with houses.
	Stay with housing.
	I would say that the reason the banks aren't loaning money is because they expect the housing market to collapse further.
	So why would they loan money?
	So if it collapses further, let's just say it's at a bottom, and you buy a house for, I'm just going to say $100,000 just to make it simple.
	And then inflation kicks in.
	Isn't it then cheaper for you to pay off that house because the house was $100,000 but the price was already set?
	It doesn't go up to, say, $105,000 or $110,000 or $120,000.
	And you should eventually have more cash to pay that off?
	Or am I just being total disc jockey here?
	No, I think there's a basic theory that if you can run up the, devalue the dollar through inflation, then you get to pay off your debts in cheaper money.
	Which is what the U.S. government is doing.
	But that assumes that you get more money, but the way things have been going, it's been kept from people.
	If we are the canary in the coal mine, that ain't happening.
	We ain't getting more money.
	We're only getting less.
	There's so many variables in this and you never really know what's going to happen.
	All you can tell for sure is that there's going to be a massive slowdown.
	Europe's going to fall apart.
	We've been predicting that since day one.
	I have a different opinion on that.
	And we're going to be in the toilet in about two years.
	No, I don't see...
	You know, one of the things that's interesting about this cycle that I keep promoting is that in...
	Wait a minute.
	Are you promoting this?
	Would you stop?
	Maybe you're the problem.
	It should have been like a market crash in 1889, like 29, and the rest of these years.
	But there wasn't, and there was actually a boom in...
	In 1892, there was like a mini-boom which would match next year if somehow Obama could crank the economy up for about a year and make everybody happy, run the market up.
	And then they had a massive depression in 1893, huge.
	And I think we're going to have the depression part of it, but we're not going to have any benefits in the front end.
	It's just going to be a mess.
	No, that's not true, because as you and I both know, what really increases during every single downturn and depression...
	Hookers.
	Yeah, hookers.
	The hookers get better looking.
	And the music and the movies are higher quality.
	So, that's good.
	I'm liking that.
	That's good for you if you're investing in a movie.
	Or in hookers.
	Yeah.
	Let's thank a couple of people who came out and supported us for this program.
	This is what we do.
	People who support the show the most on each episode become a titled executive or associate executive producer.
	It's a real title.
	It's just like Hollywood.
	When you're watching the TV and you see executive producer, that's because someone paid for that episode.
	Yeah, so we have exactly two, a couple of people.
	We have Sir Boris Marinoff of Aliso Viejo, California, and he donated $344 to the cause.
	Oh, 344 Club.
	Please send some karma to me and my wife, kids, and my future offsprings.
	Absolutely.
	A member of the 344 Club.
	Nice.
	You've got...
	Carmen.
	Of course, the only 3-4-4.
	Yeah, the only number.
	But we have the 3-4-5 club coming up, people.
	3-4, magic number of the decade.
	3-4-5-6-7 is actually what it is.
	Yeah, 3-4-5-6-7 would be good.
	Shuttle Experts in Croydon, New South Wales.
	$200.
	They'll be the associate executive producers.
	Hey guys, keep up with the good work.
	Please de-douche me and send me some questions.
	You've been de-douched.
	You've got karma.
	Tight double shot.
	And that's it, right?
	Yeah, so I have to assume our last show was terrible.
	Yeah, well we never like our shows, actually.
	Yeah, so we can't even judge them anymore.
	No.
	I can give you a couple of PR mentions, some efforts that people are doing out there.
	I don't know if this actually does any PR good for us, but it does make me chuckle.
	No, but we do have...
	Where's that list, by the way?
	Domains.nashownotes.com.
	Okay.
	Yeah, that's over 700 domains registered and forwarding to the NoAgendaShow.com website.
	This is actually a pretty good one, which might get us some extra traffic.
	Angadget.com.
	This is a donation dude who thinks...
	One of those.
	I misspelled it.
	What's this?
	Angadget with an A instead of an E. I like that.
	Also, LarryandCurry.com.
	As you know, John was posted in a school as a perpetrator, as a perp, named Larry.
	So now LarryandCurry.com is a great little website or domain name that goes to knowagendershow.com.
	That is the seeandsaygallery.org website.
	Which one of our producers put together.
	I guess you get our jingle when you open up the website.
	I live on Long Island like a lot of other Long Islanders.
	I take the LIR to the city in order to work and push that American dream forward of just getting by.
	Given the nature of the task and the nature of current events, the Manhattan Transportation Authority has decided to increase their visual and oral assault upon myself and the multitude of other consumers by displaying the following see and say materials below.
	I record and display them here to show those who are interested in exactly what they are doing to push this meme forward.
	And, of course, he has a general call out for you to participate and help him out with any pictures and videos, which is actually good because people send them to me and I really have nothing I can do with them.
	So, CNCGallery.org is a nice little producer project.
	Then we have BestPodcastInTheUniverse.com.
	I had no idea that that wasn't registered.
	So if anyone asks you, that Noah gender thing, how do I find that?
	Just go to bestpodcastintheuniverse.com.
	Ah, okay.
	burnsmymuffins.com.
	forwarding to NoAgendaShow.com AndrewBoltEatCock.com This is something we haven't really followed because this is a down-under story.
	Give a nation down under.
	Adam and John, we've registered AndrewBoltEatCock.com to forward to NoAgendaShow.com The reason why I chose the name of Andrew Bolt Eat Cock is because of the recent federal court decision in Australia that Andrew Bolt breached the Racial Discrimination Act In a series of opinion columns published in Australia's News Corp publication, papers online as well.
	Andrew Bolt did no research on these people's backgrounds and was trying to vilify them because they are fair-skinned aboriginals.
	Creamies, I think they're called.
	Anyway, I have attached the article with the full details and there's a wiki page as well.
	So that's a local story that we need to look into further.
	Fireworksandfurs.com Our business.
	We can open the doors, John.
	We've got our website.
	Yeah, we just need a shack in Idaho.
	McGurkeneffect.com.
	If you don't know what the McGurkeneffect is, Google that.
	Do you know what the McGurkeneffect is, John?
	No, tell me.
	The BBC had this thing, and it apparently has been around for a while.
	They show you a guy, and it's a video, going bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, like a sheep.
	And then they show you the same guy, and when you look at him, it sounds like he's going fa, fa, fa, fa with an F. But when you close your eyes, he's actually saying ba, ba, ba.
	But because you're looking at his mouth, your brain automatically turns it into an F. It's amazing to watch, and you can't get away from it unless you literally close your eyes, and then you hear that it's exactly the same as the first clip.
	And that's called the Gherkin effect.
	Yeah, it shows you the power of television also.
	Yeah, well, you have pointed this out from the get-go when we were starting to do clips, and I kept bringing in these clips from the various Law and Order episodes, and once you turned off the video and just listened to them try to act...
	It was pathetic.
	You could hear the innuendos and you could hear the propaganda and all this stuff came out.
	In fact, we've done clips on the show numerous times where, until we played the clip itself, one or the other of us would say, did you notice that he did this?
	We didn't even notice ourselves.
	I've actually started to not watch videos when I'm recording the sound bits to make sure I don't miss anything.
	Actually, I caught one today, which you'll think is pretty funny.
	That's coming up.
	A couple more domains here.
	BiodiversityNow.org forwarding to our NoAgendaShow.com as well as BiodiversityInitiatives.com.
	I may get a little bit of love here or there.
	Someone might stumble across it.
	Oh, here's one for you, John.
	TheFactOfTheMatter.org.
	There you go.
	I could use that.
	Don't worry.
	You will, I'm sure, before the show is over.
	AdamCurry2016.com.
	And here's probably one of the best ones.
	InTheMorningJoe.com.
	I like that.
	For those of you who don't know, there's a show here called Morning Joe with a couple of shills on it.
	We highly appreciate that, and of course, thanks to our executive producer, Boris Marinoff, Sir Marinoff, to you and I, and our associate executive producer.
	He's also the sole member of the 344 Club and our associate executive producer, Shuttle Experts.
	Thank you so much.
	Again, unlike the phonies in Hollywood, we will vouch for you if someone needs to know if this is indeed an official credit.
	Everyone else out there, you have a mission.
	Your mission is to go out and propagate our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Come on, you know it by heart now.
	Shut up, slaves.
	So once again, to those of you occupying Wall Street, if you were interviewed by the mainstream media, tell them we want exactly the same as our brothers and sisters in the Arab Spring.
	We want regime change, and we want democracy, and we want this evil dictator removed.
	It's that simple.
	Yeah, and also request a no-fly zone.
	Yeah.
	A NATO no-fly zone.
	We need to write this down.
	A NATO no-fly zone.
	We want this evil dictator removed.
	And we want regime change.
	Perfect.
	That's all you have to do.
	So, of course, everyone is waiting to hear our take on the alleged droning of Anwar al-Awlaki.
	What?
	Who I am now calling Anwar al-Aktori.
	What?
	What happened?
	He got droned.
	No.
	By the way, you can go to gotdroned.com, tracking droning of U.S. citizens since 2011.
	And it was two, actually, according to the news.
	Not just Anwar al-Awlaki, but also Shamir Khan, who...
	Published the awesome magazine Inspire.
	And I don't...
	By the way, I think you're missing the real pronunciation of the guy's last name that makes a lot more sense than your interpretation, which is Al Alaki.
	I thought it was Actory.
	I think a lackey is better.
	Because it actually is spelled a lackey.
	Or a lackey.
	Do you have a...
	I have a take on this.
	What is your take?
	No, you give me yours.
	It never happened.
	The guy is an actor, always has been an actor.
	The whole thing is bogus and fake.
	Yeah, it's the same as mine, basically.
	I knew it!
	I knew it would be exactly the same!
	Well, I mean, it's obvious.
	I don't think he was a real person, though.
	I don't believe he was a real person.
	Oh, yeah, no.
	His name is Terry Greenberg.
	And I think that it was an extraction.
	Of course.
	You always think the whole thing is bullshit.
	I always think it's an extraction.
	That's the difference between you and I, basically.
	Well, so here's what I understand.
	It was actually Samir Khan, the guy who published Inspire Magazine, a great glossy magazine.
	They've changed his backstory, by the way.
	Now he's the co-founder.
	Co-founder.
	Great.
	So he was the one that came out just last week and said to Ahmadinejad, hey, hey, hey, stop blaming the American government.
	That was us.
	That was al-Qaeda.
	Stop, stop.
	So they got rid of that guy.
	I'll go with the extraction story, because of course they're both CIA. But I truly...
	Here's what I'm missing.
	I'm missing interviews with Anwar al-Akturi's flock.
	He was an imam in America.
	Where are the interviews with the people who followed him?
	Or were those just extras?
	Because I'm just not buying it.
	Terry Greenberg...
	I believe he was in Falls Church, Virginia, by the way.
	Yes.
	There's a lot of acting work in Falls Church, Virginia.
	Now, to me, the guy was always an actor, and they trumped him up, and now, of course, they're denying everything, not saying a single thing.
	I mean, did you see Carney, the spokeshole?
	That I did not see.
	Or maybe I did.
	You have Jake, who is with the compromised ABC News organization.
	Compromised because the new president of ABC News, his sister, is a personal advisor to the president.
	And Jake has his script.
	And Jake's mission in this is to grill spokeshole Carney.
	And it's good.
	He does a good job.
	But it really is only meant to make you feel like someone is on your side.
	You said that Awaki was demonstrably and provably involved in operations.
	Do you plan on demonstrating?
	You know, I should step back.
	He is clearly, I mean, provably may be a legal term.
	I think it has been well established.
	And it has certainly been the position of this administration and the previous administration that he is a leader in, was a leader in AQAP, that AQAP was a definite threat, was operational, planned, and carried out.
	Terrorist attacks that, fortunately, did not succeed, but were extremely serious, including the ones specifically that I mentioned in terms of the would-be Christmas Day bombing in 2009 and the attempt to bomb numerous cargo planes headed for the United States.
	We followed all this.
	I don't really remember all these links to all these things.
	Do you remember them saying all that and proving it and...
	It's just solidifying the script, I think.
	I don't actually recall any proof being shown.
	No, they don't have any proof.
	I mean, this whole thing seems to be kind of a...
	I think this is like folded and folded upon itself.
	First of all, immediately when the president put out the kill order on this guy...
	Two years ago.
	...the killing of an American citizen, and the last president that actually did that would be Clinton...
	And although I don't know that you can trace it right to him, but the FBI definitely...
	If you haven't done this, people out there should definitely go to the Wikipedia and look up Ruby Ridge and read that story.
	It's quite interesting.
	And that was Janet Reno, right?
	And this was in the 90s.
	And it was Reno and the FBI. And they had gone to pick up...
	This backstory is this guy...
	Gary Weaver was in a beef with a neighbor, a see-something-say-something neighbor, who lost a lawsuit against Weaver.
	And then he started calling the FBI up saying, Weaver's threatened to kill the Pope.
	He's threatened to kill the President.
	He's threatened to do this and that.
	So the FBI started following this guy around.
	He was a little nutty.
	And they went in to arrest him, but he's in this compound.
	And so it kind of gets out of control.
	And the next thing you know, some sniper, under orders, kills his wife.
	In front of him.
	In front of him.
	Kills his kid.
	In front of him.
	And the dog gets shot somewhere along the way.
	Now that's going too far.
	The guy gets indicted.
	They know who the shooter is.
	At the very last minute before the Statue of Limitations, even though they didn't know murder was a Statue of Limitations situation in Idaho, they decide to indict the guy.
	And then the Fed say, no, no, no, you can't do that.
	We'll take the case.
	And they took the case and immediately let the guy go under sovereign immunity, which is a very sketchy...
	Sovereign immunity?
	Yeah, sovereign immunity is the fact that you can't sue the federal government for certain things.
	And I guess murder would be...
	Hey, man, if the government kills you, you can't sue him.
	You can't do that.
	So the government has already done this, and it didn't get much.
	They played it up to the public as this guy was a nutball.
	He was a tax avoider and all the rest.
	Complete lunatic.
	And so nothing came of it in terms of public outcry.
	Now, this situation's occurred, and there's been some complaining about it.
	Very little, generally speaking.
	The thing that I thought was the interesting coincidence, as soon as they...
	Supposedly killed Alaki.
	I immediately put my VCR onto the Napolitano show on Fox because Napolitano has been bitching about this kill order since it was implemented.
	Napolitano's show has not been on the air since.
	It got bumped for a bunch of stalking crap.
	Yeah, that's pretty funny.
	Well, everyone is propagating this message, and...
	Excuse me.
	I went to two...
	Well, first of all, let me just finish up the last 30 seconds of Jake grilling spokeshole.
	It's a four-minute clip.
	You can find it in the show notes, 344.anyshownotes.com.
	So Jake is really playing along well with the script, and he's really...
	He's standing up for the people.
	And he was on the morning shows this morning.
	I saw he's everywhere.
	Jake is the guy.
	Again, it is an important fact that this...
	A terrorist who is actively plotting, had plotted in the past and is actively plotting to attack Americans and American interests, is dead.
	But I'm not going to...
	From any angle, discuss the circumstances of his death.
	You know that the Center for Constitutional Rights and the ACLU tried to get permission to represent Al-Aki.
	His father had asked them to do that.
	But they needed to get permission from the Treasury Department so that they could challenge his being on this targeted killing list.
	And the administration, the Obama administration, refused to let them represent him.
	He couldn't even have the ACLU representing them.
	Well, I would send those questions or take those questions to Treasury or Justice.
	I don't have anything on that for you.
	What do you think constitutional law professor Barack Obama would make of this?
	I like that.
	Treasury?
	Yeah, go to the Treasury.
	Treasury can tell you why we killed him.
	What's Treasury got to do with it?
	ATF or what?
	That's his standard answer.
	I think you made a mistake.
	There's something to that Treasury thing.
	The whole thing is funny.
	Now, I went to two opposite ends of the spectrum.
	I went to Fox News, Fox and Friends.
	Which is just hilarious.
	But I also went to the other end of the spectrum, to PBS McLaughlin Group.
	And you'd think, in the McLaughlin Group, you'd think that there would be at least one voice of reason in all of this.
	And typically, by the way, that's Eleanor.
	Not so on this issue, but this is a short clip.
	Listen to her flub and see if you can spot it.
	Well, the drone killed a very guilty person this time.
	It's not as symbolic as bin Laden, and most people have not heard of this gentleman, but because he's an American citizen, he speaks English, he's a very charismatic figure, he has a foot in both cultures, he's been recruiting American citizens to become...
	He's a terrorist, and he exchanged emails with the Fort Hood terrorist shooter.
	He helped coach the underwear bomber and the New York Times bomber.
	He's a terrorist.
	Did you catch it?
	No.
	What?
	The New York Times bomber.
	That's exactly right, because the New York Times is the one who made it up.
	The New York Times bomber.
	She's not even lying.
	I like that.
	By the way, what is the meme about this guy being charismatic?
	Have you seen him?
	He's about as uncharismatic as anyone I've ever seen, ever.
	Google Terry Greenberg and look at some pictures.
	This guy was an actor.
	So there was an executive order, and I kind of like this, because McLaughlin was actually the only guy who was kind of questioning what was going on.
	But besides the fact that this is phony, it's meant to spark a debate, and it's meant, I mean, what's better than having drones shoot you as an American citizen is being afraid of drones shooting you without actually having spent any ammo.
	I want to mention that people should note this.
	The McLaughlin Report.
	We talked about this show in detail in Deconstructed some time ago.
	We included it with some people that used to produce the show.
	The show is scripted to the letter, to every nth degree.
	It's scripted.
	It's not a bunch of guys ad-libbing.
	That's very good of you to point that out.
	So there's executive order, and catch this, 1-2-3-3-3...
	Which I didn't realize until I was listening to some more and say, oh, of course.
	Executive Order 12333, written by former President Ronald Reagan.
	President Reagan in 1981 issued Executive Order 12333.
	Buchanan was there working for him, otherwise known as the Assassination Ban.
	Here is the language of the law of the land.
	No person employed by or acting on behalf of the United States government shall engage in or conspire to engage in assassination.
	No agency of the intelligence community shall participate in or request any person to undertake activities forbidden by this order.
	Unquote.
	Question.
	Was it legal, I ask you Liz, for President Obama to order the assassination of an American citizen?
	So now, instead of Tony Blakely, who I kind of liked always on the show, so he's off, they have this not-so-milfy woman, but she's young, and I think she writes for a blog or something.
	Who?
	You'd have to look it up.
	I'm not sure what her name is.
	I can tell by her voice to play it.
	Well, I think the White House would tell you that they derive their legal authority for any operation like this from what Congress passed in the wake of 9-11, basically authorizing the United States to defend itself against the al-Qaeda network.
	And so they think they have plenty of legal cover for this type of operation.
	And I think if you look at where the American public stands at large...
	Where do you think the American public stands at large, John?
	I think we all think it's great, don't you?
	Oh, that's fantastic.
	I don't think there's going to be a widespread sense of outrage for something like this.
	I think the more interesting thing to raise, however, to some extent, is when you look at the success that this White House has had in terms of combating al-Qaeda and on foreign policy in general...
	It's now foreign policy.
	That's what this is.
	It falls under foreign policy.
	Why isn't the president getting more credit for this?
	And you hear some Democrats actually, in the wake of what happened today, saying, you know, maybe...
	Yeah, more credit!
	America!
	Fuck yeah!
	Here to save the motherfucking day now!
	The White House needs to start doing a little more chest-thumping in the manner of George W. Bush, perhaps, or at least drawing a little more attention to the fact...
	Bush has nothing like this.
	You can shut her off.
	Well, I'd like you to listen to...
	Well, Buchanan says something really interesting.
	Okay.
	He's coming right up.
	I mean, I just have a couple things.
	This is what we do, John.
	We have to deconstruct this.
	That they've actually had a run of real success on the foreign policy front.
	Mark.
	Well, I mean, whatever else you want to say about it, there certainly is a moral justification for going after somebody like this.
	And we are involved in a totally different kind of warfare than we've ever experienced before.
	Here it comes.
	Buchanan's going to shoot it in.
	We're involved with a group of terrorism who use any means to disrupt whatever they can in the United States.
	So I have no qualms about the fact that we did it.
	And I think it's wonderful that we are taking out some of their leadership.
	And I hope that this keeps them suppressed and on the run instead of attacking us.
	I think it's absolutely justified.
	I don't think chess-looking on this would be necessarily appropriate.
	I think the President does have a good record on national security, and that kind of flips the polls, because normally that's a weakness for Democrats.
	I'm sorry, Pat's coming up, but it's important he really hammers his home.
	That's the number one issue on everybody's mind.
	I do wish...
	Yes, he was.
	And in fact, he was inciting terror against American citizens.
	John, but here's the thing.
	I do wish the United States...
	The President doesn't say this is a war on terror.
	But yes, he does.
	He doesn't put it under that category.
	No, he does not.
	He avoids that.
	It's a war on Al-Qaeda, but I do wish the United States had formally declared war on the Al-Qaeda network.
	Okay, so that's what it is.
	It's a shift from the war on terror to the war on Al-Qaeda.
	That's what the fundamental shift is.
	Remember now that the brand new director of the agency, the Bureau of Counterterrorism, is a lawyer.
	We've tracked this guy all the way back.
	He's a lawyer, and this is down to the legality because it's the war on Al-Qaeda.
	And here is PBS propagating their meme in their 6 o'clock news.
	The U.S. war on Al-Qaeda.
	There you go.
	It's the war on Al-Qaeda, John.
	That's the change here.
	And that's why it's okay.
	They took out their top guy.
	I think that war has long since ended.
	There's a couple interesting little things, side lights, I want to point out.
	One, on the show, before they shot any of them, or blew these guys up, supposedly, I had predicted Samir Khan was going to be in the news.
	That's correct.
	Now, Samir Khan shows up in the news as another American, by the way, that's killed.
	And I would think that if he was actually killed, that his family, which still resides in the United States, would have a wrongful death suit on their hands that they could throw at the government, the CIA or whoever.
	They really won't say who did this.
	But I thought it was interesting that the New York Times had...
	They talked about this con guy, and they kept over and over again, this meme keeps cropping up.
	Let me just read, this is also in the government security news that shows up.
	It says, in his magazine, July 2010, he has run how-to articles on terror techniques, including one called, quote, How to Make a Bomb in the Kitchen with Your Mom.
	That's sexy!
	Now the funny thing is that this was highlighted in the New York Times and what's curious about it is it has exactly 30 letters And the exact same thing was run three times on the same page of the Times.
	It was run in an article about him.
	It was run as a pull quote.
	And it was run in the article above about Lockie.
	And I just think that there's code here that says, hey, this guy is either not dead or don't pay too much attention to this story or whatever.
	Well, it's the magical three.
	That's the magic number.
	And also they're using Kaida rather than Al-Qaeda, which also means something.
	But anyway, the problem I think that's developing here that nobody is addressing, because there was a number of articles describing the legality of killing Americans by fiat.
	Right.
	Everybody that, and I read all this, there's articles again in all the national media, where apparently everybody in the Justice Department and most of the government workers all said that this was totally legal because it was self-defense.
	Oh yeah, the guy was clearly attacking us, planning attacks.
	He had a knife in his hand.
	With a rubber knife and a compass.
	So I'm thinking, and now they're going to make the war on Al-Qaeda, the war on this, the war on that.
	So now it's been, we've been given the go ahead.
	And by the way, this is going to be very interesting in the years ahead when Obama tries to travel to Europe.
	Because this is not getting past the world criminal court, I can assure you, or international criminal court.
	Which we don't recognize.
	So this guy's never going to get out of the country.
	I'm telling you, this is, that's a prediction.
	So, I'm sorry.
	Well, anyway, so when do we start using drones in Mexico and taking out the drug lords?
	I mean, when do we start?
	What are you talking about?
	When?
	It's been going on forever.
	This is only just the beginning.
	This is just the beginning of Drone Nation.
	I want to see more and more of these drone attacks.
	When do we start with having the drones over San Francisco or Boston and taking out protesters?
	Oh, any day now.
	You have to remember that in the 60s, and of course I did the timeline earlier, that just at this point in history, I believe within a few years the National Guard shot a bunch of students at Kent State.
	So the idea of killing Americans by our federal government is nothing new.
	We had the Weaver thing more recently, but we had the killing 40 years ago at Kent State.
	And so I suspect there are going to be some deaths coming up here, big ones.
	And nobody's going to say crap about it because everyone's already gone along with this remote...
	No, no, it's good.
	No, we like it.
	And everybody thinks it's great.
	It's fantastic.
	I saw Nick Robertson.
	The dangerous man had to go.
	I saw Nick Robertson, the former satellite engineer who now is the senior correspondent at CNN. He used to point the satellite dish.
	He did a whole report talking about autonomous drones.
	So autonomous drones...
	This is crazy.
	Robocop.
	Yeah.
	Skynet.
	So autonomous drones fly around.
	They have bio data on you, you know, from when you go through the body scanner and stuff like that.
	So they have your profile.
	They have facial recognition.
	And then if you're one of the lucky 420,000 on the list, because that's how big the list is apparently...
	Then you'll just be taken out.
	Autonomously.
	No one has to fly it.
	No one has to say, go ahead and shoot.
	It's just the drone will know.
	It's great.
	And that's why we have the next gen aviation system on the way.
	So these drones can just do anything they need to do.
	By the way, it is kind of a minor coincidence.
	Coincidence?
	I think not!
	That the underwear bomber's trial is starting next week.
	Kind of Kind of convenient to have these guys out of the way.
	Another actor who we've never...
	I don't believe any of it anymore.
	I just don't believe any of it anymore.
	And to have spokeshole Carney say, well, we're not talking about how he was killed or whatever.
	In fact, if they're not talking about how he was killed, why was it ever even announced?
	To be awesome and to frighten you.
	Why didn't they just shoot?
	If this is all true, let's assume that the scenario is accurate and this happened.
	What is the point of telling us?
	I know people who used to work on the drones, sysadmins, and part of their job would be they'd get a request and And the request would be, we need pictures of some person we droned.
	And this person actually left that job and was lucky to get out because this person was getting physically ill of retrieving the pictures from the server of people blown to bits.
	But they have that.
	It exists.
	For every single drone strike, it's high def, it's great footage.
	Quite honestly, I would invest money to turn that into a reality show.
	I've been saying this for a while.
	It would go over big with the American public the way they bloodthirst the American public.
	I think we have the autonomous drone, and then it's flying around, and then it sees a dude, and then we get to a text message vote whether we kill him or not, whether he gets droned.
	And it's all live.
	We've said on this very show many, many times that we should have public executions.
	That should be a reality show.
	We should be broadcasting that live.
	You'd be making a lot more money producing that show.
	No kidding.
	And I see nothing morally wrong with it.
	We're killing people.
	Who gives a crap?
	Anyway, actors.
	Terry Greenberg.
	Google him.
	And by the way, I'm going to ask you a question.
	Not quite an ask, Adam.
	Because I don't want to listen to the theme.
	We hate the jingles.
	When did the CIA become part of the military?
	When Leon Panetta joined.
	It was a flop.
	Switch watch.
	It's perfect.
	Come on, man.
	How come the Air Force isn't doing these drone attacks?
	Yeah.
	Because the Air Force actually wants to fly.
	These are just kids with Xbox 360 experience.
	And the Air Force hates the drones.
	They hate them.
	I think it's wrong.
	And, you know, it's like having, as they say, some guy looking through a straw flying that thing.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Just for laughs, though, because this, of course, is what the American public is being told and consumes, you have to listen to Fox and Friends about this, because it's, it's, it's, it just, it's, if you don't laugh, then that'll be two minutes of your life, you'll never get back again, and I apologize, okay?
	So go the reports, and this target was finally taken out.
	The question remains, what happened to his remains?
	How was he taken out?
	Who were those people with him when they died?
	And if it was so important to do the so-called right thing with bin Laden's body, isn't it equally important to do the right thing that's left of his body?
	Well, that will remain to be seen.
	However, the most important fact is that he's dead.
	And let's just talk about how far-reaching his tentacles were.
	You know what?
	I love this woman by that.
	It's just important that he's dead, alright?
	That's cool.
	He's dead, that's important.
	Because specifically, he was an expert, I think he was described earlier this morning, as a cyber master.
	Yes!
	I'm a cyber master!
	Where was that described?
	I never heard it.
	The president should have said that.
	He was a cyber master.
	When was he a cyber master?
	I'm Fox and Friends.
	Where's she getting this?
	Who cares?
	It's hilarious.
	And I can see up her skirt.
	He's an expert on the internet.
	He's an expert on the internet.
	He's a techno expert on the internet.
	I know that that is the place where so many young people were being radicalized, specifically in English-speaking nations.
	So right here at home in America, one of our guests was talking about Canada, Britain, Australia.
	And let's talk about the links that Al-Rocky had all the way back to 9-11.
	Apparently two of the hijackers went to hear him.
	In a mosque in San Diego in 2000, before the September 11th attack.
	So he's been up to this for...
	I'd never heard of this guy until they cast him a couple years ago.
	This is totally bull crap.
	It's just like, remember that?
	Ugh.
	Yeah, I guess so.
	Quite some time.
	Then he had the connection to the Times Square bomber.
	Then he had the connection to the Fort Hood shooter.
	Then he had the connection to the underwear bomber.
	So will this now end some of those homegrown attacks that we've been seeing at least here at home and also in Great Britain, or will those continue since he seemed to be the mastermind of many of them?
	Mastermind.
	Mastermind.
	He is homegrown here in the United States.
	Made in the USA. That's what it should be.
	Al-Qaeda made in the USA. Homegrown, right here.
	Often referred to as the American terrorist.
	He was born in New Mexico in 1971.
	And he'd had contact with the two pilots, the hijackers from Flight 77.
	Do you remember any of that?
	Flight 77?
	This is all, you know, this is like bull crap.
	Well, that's why.
	Final 30 seconds.
	Can you also use the word inspire, Steve?
	I believe that was the name of his magazine.
	Listen, oh, the Inspire magazine.
	Oh, for those of us who haven't downloaded the PDF, please, kind of milfy, not-so-hot-looking woman whose skirt I'm intended to look up, please, please tell me about Inspire magazine.
	That he had out on the internet.
	I remember we did interviews when it first came out, and many people were so concerned about the fact that this thing looked high-tech and it was glossy and it was going to attract so many people to go there.
	Hey, remember that, John, how high-tech and glossy it looked, that PDF? It's sad.
	Who watches this show?
	Oh, you'd be amazed.
	Idiots.
	People still watch the Today Show.
	That's where you should get your clips, not from these idiots.
	Okay, where's your Today Show clip?
	I don't have one.
	I got a couple of funny clips, though, on this.
	I thought there was a lot of interesting mixed messages coming out of this assassination.
	They had Christina Amonimapoura.
	Yeah, who's been compromised now that she works for ABC. She makes the comment that now we're safer, but that was in direct conflict with all the sudden emergence of, oh, we're not safe.
	We're in more danger than ever because they're going to make up for lost time.
	He's martyred.
	He's been martyred.
	Meanwhile, I'd play the safer or not safer clip because she has the most unusual pronunciation for his name, much better than an actor or a lackey.
	The president said it is a major blow to al-Qaeda operations.
	What will the reaction be from the Muslim world and also is the U.S. safer?
	I would say the U.S. is safer.
	As the president says, this deals a very significant blow to al-Qaeda.
	American jihadis were a big problem, according to intelligence officials here, and al-alki was a major inspiration and motivator of American jihadis.
	So this is a big, big deal from all the way over.
	Al-alki?
	Al-alki?
	Al-alki.
	Now he's an alcoholic?
	Apparently.
	That's pretty crazy, man.
	It's like...
	Really, you've got to turn off your TV, because this is...
	And what I found interesting, on this morning's news shows, which I always have a little bit of time to have that on the background, they're not talking about this at all.
	It's all about the elections.
	It's almost like the memo went out and said, okay, now that we have...
	Chris Christie.
	Yeah, Chris Christie, exactly.
	Now that the memo is out, you know, let's all talk about something else.
	I don't know, it was kind of crazy...
	I think they have all kinds of problems they don't know what to do about.
	By the way, Fox did a special report on El Alaki.
	El Alaki.
	El actor, El Alaki.
	El Alaki.
	El alcoholic.
	Where they actually discussed whether or not he was flipped, as it were, back after 9-11.
	Because he was...
	A speaker at the Pentagon.
	He was a speaker.
	And then the funny thing was, they showed these memos that they highlighted stuff, but luckily with HD, I could stop the recording and look and read these memos that they weren't really reading.
	This guy got a degree at Colorado State, got a master's degree at San Diego State.
	Then he was getting his PhD at George Washington University, and this was in 2002, I guess.
	That's where he got recruited.
	Yeah, because he was in the Virginia area.
	Yeah, that's where he got recruited.
	But they try to discuss this a little bit.
	They talk about one of his visits and the fact that he came to the country and then he went to the mosque in London.
	It might be worth playing this clip because there are some tidbits in here.
	Because apparently there's a cover-up going on, and this report ran over the weekend at some weird hour, so very few people got to see it, but I thought it was revealing.
	Young American Muslims got to go join the jihad, and that Tamimi sent him out of the house and sent him away.
	FBI agent Wade Ammerman.
	What role did he play in the case?
	Wade Ammerman was the number two or the lead guide in Ali Tamimi's case.
	The very same Wade Ammerman who was first called when Al Lockie arrived at JFK. I mean, there are a lot of things, once again, that seem like a very strange coincidence.
	Whether there was ever an operational relationship with people like Al Lockie, I think there are questions that others in the government can answer.
	I just don't know.
	Good questions.
	Ask the government, what is this guy?
	How did this guy get to Ali's house?
	Who brought him there?
	Did you tape it?
	The idea that Anwar Alak is just going to be allowed into the United States to travel around, maybe go shopping, is preposterous to me.
	I don't know if Lockheed was flipped or not.
	Does this look like he was flipped?
	It's possible.
	We filed Freedom of Information Act requests with the State Department to get Ray Fournier's Lockheed passport file and with the FBI for the October 8, 2002 electronic communication.
	It is cited as footnote 33 on page 517 from the 9-11 Commission Report.
	We wanted to see if it is connected.
	The FBI lawyers told us is that they couldn't find it.
	And then when we pushed them on this particular document, they then said, well, sometimes the commission report, the footnotes are not always accurate.
	Have you had a lot of problems with the footnotes in the commission report?
	No.
	We had a site-checking team that actually pulled all the documents referenced in our footnotes and made sure that they connected to the assertions that were in the text.
	FBI Special Agent Wade Ammerman declined to speak with us.
	In a series of conversations with Fox News, the FBI's FOIA attorneys over a four-week period cited herculean efforts to find the document.
	They were hitting, quote, brick walls.
	We're trying to follow up on leads.
	On May 17th, they told us they found it.
	But we can't have it pending review because other agencies may be involved.
	Then, sometime in late 2002, a Lockie mysteriously slips out of the country once again.
	This time, to England.
	Yeah, that whole 9-11 commission report, pretty good stuff.
	So they finally found this document, supposedly, that they lost, and then they said they couldn't give it to them because of other agencies.
	Yeah, with three letters who shall go unnamed, exactly.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, the six commissioners on the 9-11 commission have come out and said it was full of holes and was no good and compromised and crap, basically.
	And that's not reported.
	No one cares.
	I have figured it out, though.
	I've figured out what this is all about, this Anwar al-Alki.
	So, first of all, he went to Colorado State, then he went to George Washington University, and he was getting his Ph.D. where?
	No, he went to Colorado State, then San Diego State, then he was getting his Ph.D. at George Washington.
	Oh, I know the problem.
	He didn't pay back a student loan, so the president's loaned him.
	In the morning!
	Boom!
	Okay, there he is.
	Send a message.
	Credit to Purple Sage on that one, I have to say.
	That's your typical chat room humor.
	I like it, though.
	This is what the country's come to, by the way.
	Chat room humor.
	That's what it is.
	Let's go across the ocean to Gitmo Nation East.
	A very interesting development based upon a survey and a study from a think tank, which I have a copy of, of course.
	The BBC broadcasts this report about something new that shall be held in classrooms called Digital Judgment Lessons.
	We're here about information and how we get it.
	So you have trust on one side and you have distrust on the other side.
	Two school sessions in which demos explore pupils' online abilities in Liverpool.
	I will search it on Google.
	I didn't believe the first answer that came up, to be honest.
	I know I shouldn't do it, but Google's like a trusted website.
	And in East London, where conspiracy theories are quickly raised.
	There was a documentary about this guy.
	He does his own research, finding out that...
	By the way, listen to this idiot trying to explain 9-11, but he doesn't know what it's called.
	Um...
	In one of the FBI, you know, the building that got hit by a plane.
	Apparently it was not a plane, it was a missile from the army.
	Some pupils are internet savvy, others fall foul to the problems the think tank says are common.
	Demos brought together existing research and surveyed 500 teachers across England and Wales.
	Teachers are increasingly finding that their pupils are bringing into the classroom conspiracy theories, misinformation, propaganda that they found on the internet.
	And what I think that means is that young people aren't really being taught enough about how to critically assess and evaluate the information that they're finding online.
	Demos want digital judgment to be a core part of the curriculum.
	They say teachers need the training and resources to do that, and they want parents to encourage their children to think more critically about the information they're seeing on the Internet.
	So...
	I looked up their website, Demos, which is just demos, but they call it Demos.
	And I found their research papers in the show notes as well, in the assets section.
	And it's very interesting.
	Now, of course, I'm all for educating your own children about how to look at things and question things, in fact, question everything.
	But what they're asserting, certainly in the survey, is everything on the Internet is a conspiracy theory.
	Everything.
	And if you even look at their executive summary...
	Children are unable to recognize...
	What's the URL of this thing?
	It's...
	Hold on a second.
	I'm looking at the...
	I'll bring it up for you.
	Demos.co.uk D-E-M-O-S As a result, children are too often influenced by information they should probably discard.
	This makes them vulnerable to the pitfalls and rabbit holes of ignorance, falsehoods, cons, and scams.
	Inaccurate content, online misinformation, and conspiracy theories such as those which surround the death of Osama Bin Laden are appearing in the classroom.
	That's pretty egregious.
	Ooh.
	Misinformation, propaganda, and conspiracy theories are being brought into the classroom.
	47% of teachers surveyed report having encountered arguments within lessons or submitted schoolwork that contain inaccurate internet-based content they regard as deliberately packaged by the producers to be misleading or deceitful.
	For example, Holocaust denial packaged as radical historical revisionism.
	Bring in the Jew thing.
	That always works well in a survey.
	18% report this happens on at least a monthly basis.
	Perhaps more surprisingly, 48% of teachers surveyed report having had arguments in class with pupils about conspiracy theories.
	More than one in five reported this happen on a monthly basis.
	So here's kids questioning.
	I don't know if they're arguing per se, but they're certainly questioning things.
	The answer is quite simple.
	The Department of Education should join forces with the private sector and third sector to create...
	What's a third sector?
	It says third sector?
	It says, yeah.
	CIA. MI6. I don't know.
	The Department for Education should join forces with the private sector and third sector to create a set of teacher resources.
	Ah, Ministry of Truth.
	Both the Department for Education and Internet companies such as Google and Yahoo should create materials that can be used in the classroom and where possible teaching assistants.
	A bespoke web presence should be created to provide an overarching context for digital fluency teaching.
	This is the start of your digital Internet license.
	Yes, well, I want to remind people we do have podcasting licenses available for $33.
	Now, I feel it as a personal PR fail that we were not mentioned in this document.
	But at least we got this kind of on a sideline.
	Misinformation often thrives because it is more attractively packaged and disseminated as shareable, social media-friendly products.
	Teaching resources must use the same techniques to teach as the young people use.
	YouTube videos, webinars, interactive tasks, and podcasts.
	So, did you look at the people that are involved with this?
	They're all government.
	They're all government shills, the whole thing.
	Well, did you see the picture of Jake Chapman?
	What do you think he's all about?
	No, hold on a second.
	Under people, let me see, staff, Jake Chapman.
	He's a Lego robot.
	Jake has been a Demos associate since 2002 and is working on the Legal Highs project.
	And the guy's stoned.
	He couldn't show for picture day, apparently.
	That's just crazy.
	So this is...
	There you go.
	Oh, also, the use of imagery.
	I really...
	This is amazing.
	They are totally...
	I'll just read it.
	Yeah, by the government.
	The conspiracy film Loose Change, which claims that 9-11 was a false flag attack perpetrated by elements of the U.S. intelligence, became an internet sensation attracting millions of views.
	The litany of errors, misattributions, vague insinuations, subtle misquotes, and outright falsehoods were masked by a cool soundtrack by DJ Schooley.
	Atmospheric narration and mesmerizing video editing.
	So, these guys just in one little paragraph say the whole thing was bullcrap.
	Did they explain World Trade Center 7?
	No.
	Oh, well then...
	No.
	It has to be taken with a grain of salt.
	No.
	But then they do go into, quote, Cass Sunstein.
	So it's a beautiful thing.
	WTC 7 won't go away.
	So I see the director of this thing is one of your pals at the Financial Times.
	Oh, really?
	That doesn't surprise me.
	Who's married to another person at the Financial Times.
	Of course.
	This is Ministry of Truth, but to say we have to have these teachings of how not to get duped on the internet in the classroom is highly annoying.
	Well, people do get duped a lot on the internet, let's face it.
	Sure, but it's one thing to say you get duped, but how about not getting duped by the news?
	Well, the news...
	Now, here's the joke of it.
	The news itself, the news media people, have been duped over and over and over again themselves.
	Yeah.
	So how does this help?
	No, it doesn't, of course.
	Well, I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill with this thing.
	It's just a money grab.
	Well, we'll see.
	We'll see if it gets implemented, and if your kids have internet judgment lessons...
	On the curriculum.
	I like the internet judgment lesson.
	How do you think we'll do?
	Internet judgment lesson of the day.
	Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak are not to be trusted.
	Not a single thing they say is true ever.
	So you can, you know, talking about twisting, there's a little feature that Jimmy Kimmel does on his show, and I've wanted to tape it a couple of times, but I did tape it this time, where he, and I think we should start, the only reason I want to run this is because I think it's something we should think of doing.
	Okay.
	Which is that if you, when somebody says things, if you just bleep it.
	No, that it's funnier and you bring attention to it.
	Well, no, you make it sound like they're cussing or you're just, yeah, exactly.
	It's a combination of things.
	But these bleeps that he does are legitimate bleeps.
	I mean, they're taking, you get the right word, like...
	Like you say, it's a fake picture.
	You know, you make it say...
	You have the F and the K in there.
	It sounds like it would say he's saying a fuck picture.
	And it would be very humorous to do with a...
	What's her name?
	A Speaker of the House Pelosi speech to just bleep the crap out of it.
	But play this so you can see what I'm talking about.
	Watch it over there.
	Are you okay?
	It's Thursday night.
	It's time for a weekly tribute to the FCC where we bleep and blur things whether they need it or not.
	It is this week in unnecessary censorship.
	The president tonight was trying to raise his poll numbers, replenish his campaign coffers, and f*** up his supporters again.
	Tonight, I remember my parents by giving food to the hungry, clothing to the needy, and s*** to the homeless.
	So to come for a year, a delicious dip just in time for the weekend.
	What has been the craziest fan experience that you've had?
	A man pulled down his pants and I f*** his butt.
	Michael Jackson literally put his s*** In the hands of Conrad Murray.
	I need the c*** in the butt.
	I need that.
	What does your wife scream during an orgasm?
	Oh, God.
	And she responds, Oh, big c***!
	I certainly don't want my children to read the internet and go, Mommy's a tramp.
	So, Mommy f***ed America, and I don't want that.
	Convicted murderer George Wright escaped from a New Jersey prison reportedly by s*ing the warden's c*.
	I do little sleep during the day, and recently my partner and I have opened the city's premier blow s*** bar and vanity lounge.
	You don't want to be late for your 8 o'clock appointment, sir.
	You're easily amused, aren't you?
	You know, I think what's funny is how someone can actually listen to these clips and get those and figure those out on the fly.
	Yeah, I find just regular television without the beeps funnier.
	Yeah, okay.
	Quite honestly.
	Okay, go on.
	I'm trying to lighten the show up once in a while, and this is the response I get.
	No, I thought it was funny.
	I'll give you that.
	We can do this one for you.
	We haven't done this in a while.
	And now, back to Real News.
	Oh my god, Real News!
	Mrs.
	Obama has said she likes to do normal things that aren't a part of her White House life.
	But those trips have been pretty much a secret until now.
	It turns out the First Lady's to-do list included this Virginia shopping center.
	Check this out.
	Behind those dark glasses, tucked under that Nike cap, one of the world's most famous women.
	Yes, that is the First Lady of the United States at Target.
	Yeah, that was awesome.
	I mean, how stupid do they think we really are?
	Apparently very stupid.
	Wow.
	What a great plug for Target.
	Yeah.
	And I think she was wearing an old navy blouse, actually.
	Isn't this illegal?
	Yeah.
	What?
	I mean, that's basically an advertisement for Target.
	It's like the government is approving people shopping at Target.
	Yeah, well, they've got a union.
	Who's the PR person for Target?
	Well, they've got a union, right?
	No, I don't think so.
	No, I think they do.
	I don't think so.
	Maybe they need a union.
	Well, I don't think that's the reason for this.
	This is a money grab.
	My wife will go to Target, but we need a little more contribution to this.
	To the election campaign.
	Hey, hey, hey.
	Now you watch.
	If you go look this up, I bet you the guy who's the CEO of Targets just coughed up a bunch of money.
	Can someone please investigate that right now?
	That's a good one.
	It wouldn't surprise me.
	It wouldn't surprise me at all.
	Or maybe it went the other way around.
	Hey, Barack.
	Barry.
	Barry, listen up, Barry.
	You know, I need some support for this election.
	Here, August 17, 2011.
	Target fires worker who sought union.
	Target workers say no to union.
	There's no union there.
	Okay.
	Now, if I was a union person, I would say, hey, what's the deal?
	Target, here's another one.
	Crane's New York Business is August this year.
	Target fires pro-union employee.
	Target workers reject union.
	Union cries foul.
	Hmm.
	So maybe there is...
	What's Obama?
	What side of the fence is he on with the union thing?
	I don't know.
	But that's kind of coincidental that there's union stuff with Target going on.
	Only just a month before this happens.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	But it's certainly a promotion for Target.
	There's no doubt about that.
	Oh yeah.
	Target.
	Target.
	And now she's like the Easter egg.
	Hey man, let's go to Target.
	Maybe Michelle will be there.
	It's cool.
	Did you see the new United States Postal Service ad?
	Their new television campaign?
	No, what now?
	I thought they were broke.
	How can they afford this?
	Here's how the meeting went.
	Yeah, dude, what can we do to, like, how can we differentiate ourselves from email?
	I know!
	We'll call it secure.
	A refrigerator has never been hacked.
	An online virus has never attacked a cork board.
	Give your customers the added feeling of security a printed statement or receipt provides with mail.
	It's good for your business and even better for your customers.
	For safe and secure ways to stay connected, visit usps.com slash mail.
	Your refrigerator's never been hacked.
	Yeah, yet.
	They're trying to put all our appliances on IP addresses and it will be hacked, I can assure you.
	I just thought it was kind of interesting.
	That's the best they could come up with.
	It's like, well, we're secure.
	I have, on the other hand, waited weeks for a check to come.
	I have had stuff get lost in the mail.
	I don't know, I'm just saying.
	Very weird.
	Well, the attack on the post office is pretty funny because if you think it's bad, now wait until they privatize it.
	Yeah.
	Which is what they're trying to do.
	And by the way, did you know that the number of packages going through the post office is actually higher than ever?
	No, is that a fact?
	And the amount of money they're making within the last five years is more than ever.
	How does it work that they're broke then?
	Because they were told to fully fund the next 75 years of projected retirements over the next decade.
	So they have to fund seven years in advance every year, and it's breaking them.
	It's a scam.
	So they're not really broke.
	They have the money.
	It's just in a separate account?
	They've been screwed out of it.
	They've been told to...
	I mean, this is all over the place.
	The post office is doing just fine.
	We've talked about this before.
	They're being scammed probably by the forces of Federal Express and UPS and various lobbyists to put these guys out of business, even though it's in the Constitution, it might be a problem.
	But to put these guys out of business, privatize it, do something.
	So how were they going to do that?
	They came up with this scheme to force the post office to fund, fully fund the next 75 years worth of retirements over the next 10 years.
	So in other words, 7 years in advance every year, which you can't afford.
	It's not possible.
	It's all the profits and everything.
	If they weren't doing this, they'd be making lots of money.
	So, I haven't had the...
	I just couldn't bring it up in myself to watch some of those hearings on television on C-SPAN about it because I thought I would die of boredom.
	Did this ever come up in any of those?
	I don't recall.
	Yeah, this has come up a number of times.
	We had a clip once before.
	One of the guys who's talking about this is a massive scam.
	The public's being taken for a ride.
	So they're going to close a bunch of offices and fire a bunch of people, and then they're going to still have problems because they're basically stealing the money from the post office.
	The post office is being scammed, and the public doesn't seem to either care or know or whatever.
	And the Congress is going along with it.
	And so the next thing you're going to have, instead of being able to mail a letter for 44 cents, it's going to cost you $5 and it's going to go on a FedEx truck.
	I'm looking for the clip that we played of the post office.
	Well, I have a post office clip from Democracy Now!
	that I sent last week.
	We wanted to find that one.
	Well, I have one here, which is the...
	Hold on a second.
	History of Post Office Rip-Offs?
	Would that be something?
	I don't know.
	Find it.
	Play it.
	We'll see.
	No.
	Hold on a second.
	Do you want me to get the one from last week?
	The one from last week kind of explains the fact that they're making money.
	The last show?
	Hold on a second.
	Let me check for you.
	That's well worth it now that we're talking about it.
	So it'll be 434?
	Right.
	Oh, you know, I probably deleted it.
	Because when we don't use a clip, I delete it.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, it should be in your inbox.
	Yeah.
	Hey, everyone, why don't you just go do something for yourself while Adam parses his email.
	Well, you've got this great program you keep bragging about.
	No, no, no.
	Forget about it.
	European Union.
	I have come across the smoking gun.
	And I've done some work for you, all those of you that live in the United States of Europe.
	This is about the European stability mechanism.
	And this is something you have not heard of, although there is a picture of, I believe, 20 finance ministers from the Eurozone, which does not include Gitmo Nation East, the UK, because they don't use the Euro, but it's the Kingdom of Belgium, the Federal Republic of Germany.
	These are the official titles, actually.
	The Kingdom of Spain, the Kingdom of the Netherlands, the Republic of Austria, etc., etc.
	And I'm looking through this document.
	It was signed on July 11th, 2011.
	And so it's done.
	It's a done deal.
	But now it has to be ratified before December 31st of this year.
	And it's a very interesting document.
	And basically, for those of you living in Europe, here's how you're going to get raped, okay?
	Okay.
	Can I just go through this for a second, John?
	You might find this interesting.
	Go.
	Committed to ensuring the financial stability of the euro area, recalling the conclusions of the European Council adopted on the 25th of March for the establishment of a European stability mechanism.
	Everyone's talking about this EFSF or whatever it is, but that's actually not...
	That's the thing they show you in the headlines, but under the cover...
	Is this fund they're going to put together, the fund will be 700 billion euros.
	700 billion euros.
	The ESM will cooperate very closely with the International Monetary Fund in providing financial assistance to any of the Eurozone countries that should need money from this 700 billion euro fund.
	It's very interesting because there's a couple of provisions.
	You know, I like to read these documents.
	Here it is.
	Like the IMF, ESM will provide financial assistance to an ESM member when its regular access to market financing is impaired.
	So essentially, this is what they're going to do with Italy and Portugal and Spain.
	By the way, the PDF is all highlighted in the show notes.
	There can be calls.
	So they can call for more money and you have to pay.
	So above the $700 billion, you have to pay extra if there's a cash call.
	If any ESM member fails to pay any part of the amount due in respect to its obligations, then you basically dilute in your shares and your exercise of voting rights.
	So then, you know, if your country can't pay, then you're screwed.
	Shut up.
	You can't say anything anymore.
	Then we have the interesting bits.
	Hold on, I'm just going to scroll down here.
	There's the capital calls bit.
	The ESM has its seat in principal office in Luxembourg, of course, where all the shills are.
	The ESM, its property, funding, and assets, wherever located and by whomever held, shall enjoy immunity from every form of judicial process except to the extent...
	That the ESM expressly waives its immunity for the purpose of any proceedings by the terms of any contract, including the documentation of the funding instruments.
	The property, funding and assets of the ESM shall, wherever located and by whomever be held immune from search, requisition, confiscation, expropriation or any form of seizure, taking or foreclosure by executive, judicial, administrative or legal action.
	In other words, fuck you.
	Whatever we do is up to us.
	The archives of the ESM and all documents belonging to the ESM or held by it shall be inviolable.
	In other words, you can't go into their building.
	You can't look at their documents.
	Then the directors or the premises of the ESM shall be inviolable.
	To the extent necessary to carry out the activities provided in this treaty, all property, funding, and assets shall be free from restrictions, regulations, control, and moratoria of any nature.
	Nothing shall be taxed.
	And in the interest of the ESM, the chairperson of the board of governors, governors, alternate governors, director, alternate directors, as well as the managing director and other staff members shall be immune from legal proceedings with respect to acts performed by them in their official capacity, shall enjoy inviolability in respect of their official papers and documents.
	This is despicable.
	So a group of douchebags got together and said, we're going to take 700 billion euros from all the countries who are in the Eurozone.
	We're going to manage it however we feel fit.
	You can't say anything about it, and you can't come after us in any way whatsoever.
	This is the start of what I predicted.
	And what was that?
	Taxation.
	Taxation of every single Euro country and then you have nothing to say about it.
	And then Brussels will have all the power.
	They're taking everyone's money.
	700 billion euros, John.
	It's a trillion dollars.
	But right here in the document it says if we need more money, then we make a cash call.
	If you can't pay, you dilute and you have no voting rights.
	So guess who's going to win?
	Germany!
	Well, this is a little less violent than the Hitler approach.
	I'm telling you, Hitler's going, I should have known.
	I didn't have to kill all those people.
	But it's the smoking gun, and just be on the lookout in your Eurozone country, or member state, be on the lookout for the ratification of this document, and see if there's any press coverage of it at all.
	Anything.
	What's the name of the document again?
	It's about the ESM, the European Stability...
	Is there a name for the document, or has it got a number or something?
	Hold on.
	It's the ESM Treaty.
	That's what it's called.
	I mean, it has a really long title.
	Hold on.
	It's just the ESM treaty...
	Establishing the European Stability Mechanism between, and then it gives all the countries.
	It's the ESM Treaty.
	And it was already signed by unelected people.
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	Well, good job if you can get.
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	Wouldn't it be great?
	We could certainly do a little bit on their PR. That sucks.
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	Let's go next to Wes, and Wes is on the line from Naples in Florida.
	Yeah, my big question is, you know, this thing is fixed.
	If it were a prize fight, they would put the referee in jail.
	Every time we have a debate, you put two guys up there, Perry and Romney.
	The lighting's good.
	The rest of them get about six minutes on the debates.
	Those two get most of the media.
	And the same thing is through today.
	Ron Paul carried California on the straw poll.
	I haven't heard him mentioned by you guys.
	He's leading the nation in straw polls.
	I haven't heard you mention that.
	The military is behind him almost 100%.
	I haven't heard you mention that.
	Most military people are behind him.
	You just leave him out as if he weren't even fair.
	Is someone from up in the top telling you guys to do that, or are you doing it on your own?
	Wes, we have you on the radio telling us, so thanks very much for the phone call.
	I'm a big voice, aren't I? I like that.
	You know those guys up there telling you what to say?
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	And how many 10ers did we get?
	Did we go up?
	You're going to go to that?
	I thought we were going to save that to the end.
	But okay, the 10s have increased enormously.
	We have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 on the nose.
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	So there's like 97% of the people listen to this, they listen for two and a half hours straight, and then when they're done they go, eh.
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	I also want to thank KJ for sending me that transceiver.
	So I'm wired now.
	I'm not licensed, but I'm wired.
	John.
	Oh, you're wired.
	Well, you've been wired for some time.
	Yeah, but I got a rig now.
	I got a rig.
	You have a rig.
	Is that what you call it?
	Yeah, what do you call your ham radio equipment?
	It's a rig.
	Yeah, what kind of rig you got?
	But I actually have a license, so I can call it a rig.
	License to call it a rig.com.
	You know, I'm like, alright, I'll listen to this thing.
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	It feels, from what I understand, it feels weird, but it's not too bad a procedure, from what I understand, but karma for sure.
	Hey, also, I got that, who's our Sir Dentist up there near you in Washington?
	Sir Birch.
	Sir Birch, this way he's named after a tree.
	Yes.
	I got my USB toothbrush.
	That thing's awesome.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	It's funny.
	You'd get a toothbrush and I never got my CIA challenge going.
	Well, you know, do you really want the RFID chip that provides for tracking for the drones?
	If you want it, I mean, I'll send you mine.
	I'm sure it works.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	I would put it in the microwave, though, just to be safe.
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	By the way, I saw this awesome movie, this documentary, Moon Rising, which is now in its second version.
	And you can see it on YouTube.
	It's in the show notes link.
	And what they did is they colorized all the NASA pictures of the moon because they're all in black and white.
	Which I've always found kind of strange.
	Even the Hubble telescope, everything's always in black and white.
	I don't think the moon is just gray.
	So they took earth tones and coordinated that to the moon pictures.
	And it's unbelievable because then you really see the moon bases.
	And they're big.
	Really, really big.
	The moon bases?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh yeah, the moon bases, there's light disks hovering above different sections.
	They show you how they've manipulated all of the NASA photographs.
	I think the subtitle of the movie is The Biggest Lie Never Told or something like that.
	It's really phenomenal.
	It's just an outstanding documentary.
	And it goes all the way to the moon elevator, the space elevators.
	Pretty cool.
	Yeah, the space elevator.
	Have you ever heard that one?
	Well, okay.
	You know me.
	I don't always discredit it right off the bat.
	So I have a book to recommend for our book club.
	Oh, good.
	Governing Through Crime.
	How the War on Crime Transformed American Democracy and Created a Culture of Fear.
	Came out in 2007.
	It's by Jonathan Simon.
	Huh.
	I was looking at this book and also the stats on...
	We've talked about this before.
	The prisoners in this country started in 1980 and just cranked way up because it's become a way of making money.
	We have a regular slave system, but then we need the slaves in jail to work for 10 cents a day.
	We're trying to privatize as many of the jails as we can.
	I was thinking about this when I was watching for propaganda on TV. And then it just dawned on me that there was an interesting episode, the last episode of NCIS, the new season.
	And it was called Restless Episode.
	And it was about some girl who was abused as a child.
	And it turns out that the owner who was an ex-con of a restaurant was the bad guy.
	And the whole restaurant was still doing criminal activity, even though this guy was running a legitimate business, which was to give us the meme that once a con, always a con.
	And to drive this home, I thought the most interesting kind of subtext was when they went to visit the guy the first time in this restaurant that he owned, which is supposed to be legitimate, the line was out the door.
	That meant that the restaurant was obviously hyper-successful, and despite that, he was still a crook.
	Of course.
	And what is the point of that propaganda?
	The point is to make sure that people realize that criminals should never be hired.
	They're always going to be criminals.
	And the criminal class is exactly what it is.
	They're dangerous.
	They're out there all the time.
	They should probably be in jail.
	Working.
	Working in jail for 10 cents a day.
	Someone else caught a little propagation on Blue Bloods.
	Have you ever watched that show?
	Is that the show with Tom Sellers?
	I can't watch it.
	I find the pacing of that thing just unwatchable.
	It's also really bad acting, as referenced in this clip.
	I was here yesterday, 1B. Hey, perfect timing.
	We're in here now.
	Can you open the door, presser?
	There's a girl, young, in her 20s.
	What's your name?
	I'm not good with names.
	I call them all honey.
	But I thought I heard fighting coming from them when I was having my dinner last night.
	And?
	What did you do?
	It was dinner.
	When it was finished, it had already stopped.
	You know the signs.
	You see something, you say something.
	You know the signs.
	See something, say something.
	Takes us right back to your Ruby Ridge thing.
	Actually, somebody has a website now where they're collecting, initially they're collecting pictures.
	This guy, I think, is in New York.
	He's just collecting photos.
	We'll post this.
	Where were you during the opening of the show where I actually gave the name of the website?
	Oh, I was in the bathroom.
	Oh, okay.
	Anyway, I suggested to the guy that he open this up for everybody.
	It's open.
	I can't believe it.
	When I do the PR mentions, are you just clipping your nails?
	No, I'm in the bathroom.
	Oh, okay, because it's seeandsaygallery.org.
	I had this whole long rap about it.
	You're hurting me now.
	Oh, well.
	I think I dozed off.
	I think we've been married too long, honey.
	You're just making listening noises now.
	You're not even paying attention to me.
	I feel hurt.
	That does happen.
	Alright, let's talk about Syria.
	Back on the radar with a very interesting report from Euronews.
	Who I kind of like.
	They do kind of just spell it out pretty plain and simple and not with too much...
	We know it's no sound effects and really slow edits.
	As the ambassador, the U.S. ambassador Ford was pelted with eggs and tomatoes in Damascus.
	And they actually...
	When I listen to the report, and I want to hear your opinion, John, so listen, please.
	It sounds like...
	Well, you tell me what you hear.
	The U.S. has condemned Thursday's attack on a convoy carrying their ambassador whilst he visited opposition members in Syria.
	Robert Ford was in the capital, Damascus, when a crowd of President Bashar al-Assad supporters threw rocks, eggs and tomatoes at the vehicles.
	Earlier, he'd had to wait for help from Syrian security.
	Though no one was injured, a number of embassy cars were damaged.
	The crackdown on pro-democracy protesters continues, with Assad blaming the unrest on foreign incitement.
	The government claims seven soldiers have been killed fighting terrorists in the central town of Rastan, which has mounted armed resistance after months of peaceful demonstrations.
	So, here's my takeaway from this report, and I want to hear your opinion.
	The government there says, look, there's foreign actors in here, they're causing a big ruckus, they're making a stink, it's not us.
	Then the U.S. comes to talk to the so-called opposition party, which will be a new national transitional committee, and the people there say, boo, we're throwing eggs, and you only see pictures of eggs and tomatoes, no rocks, but apparently they threw rocks too.
	So aren't the people of Syria saying, USA, get out, you are the ones causing this problem, or am I misreading this?
	I still don't see the return to the anti-Syrian memes in the New York Times.
	They had a picture on the front page of yesterday's paper.
	Where they had, it said, Syrian protester holding, you know, this was some person with a mask on, like just wrapped in a, you know, like a headdress.
	And holding up what looked like a big heart.
	And it supposedly said something like, freedom now, or something like that.
	And it was one lone person in the middle of the street.
	There was nobody else there.
	Yeah.
	One lone person.
	And this to me is the message that there's nothing going on.
	I think Syria is off the table.
	Well, Lucifer came out.
	I have a couple of clippity-clop clips from her.
	And this is not the clippity-clop.
	We'll do that in a second.
	Unrelated topic.
	But she's there with the foreign minister of Egypt, I believe.
	And you know that there's about to be a script presented when Jill from CNN wants to ask a question.
	And of course, you know, Hillary and Jill are best buddies, and they're laughing it up, and Jill is scripted to ask a question about Syria.
	And just, I'm sorry, one other question.
	I represent a lot of journalists.
	I know, I know.
	Maybe one is not.
	Well, Jill, if I can remember them.
	Jill the shill.
	The first one, with respect to Ambassador Ford, we've raised this ugly, unfortunate incident to the highest levels of the Syrian government.
	We are demanding that the Syrian government take all necessary steps to protect our embassy, to protect our diplomats in accordance with the international obligations that every country must abide by.
	And this is absolutely required.
	The Vienna Convention requires that host countries protect property and persons of diplomatic missions.
	And I must say that this inexcusable assault is clearly part of an ongoing campaign of intimidation.
	Intimidation!
	Aimed at not only American diplomats, but diplomats from other countries, foreign observers, who are raising questions about what's going on inside Syria.
	It reflects an intolerance on the part of the regime and its supporters.
	And it is deeply regrettable that we have the Assad regime continuing its support A campaign of violence against its own people.
	So I hope that first and foremost our property, the persons that serve in our mission will be protected along with every other diplomat from every other country.
	But secondly, we continue to call for an end to the violence and we'll...
	Continue to speak out, and I think Ambassador Ford's courage and clarity is, you know, making the point that the United States cannot and will not stand idly by when this kind of violence continues.
	Ooh, ooh, them's fighting words.
	We cannot and will not...
	Jill!
	I hate that bitch.
	By the way, so I'm looking at this moon rising site.
	What bullcrap.
	Okay, okay.
	You don't have to watch it.
	I like this one.
	Apollo 17 Earthrise photo was featured on the cover of Life magazine.
	They have this little arrow pointing.
	It says the Earth should be behind the moon's surface.
	And they've got a photographic anomaly.
	In fact, I don't even see the...
	That's unbelievable, this whole thing.
	Bad, bad.
	So, meanwhile, Libya, just because we've got Anwar al-Aktari shot by a drone, doesn't mean that there isn't stuff going on in the world.
	By the way, the bloodthirsty right-wingers, we got some guy out here that got on one of the big national shows named Brian Sussman.
	This guy, he's going on and on about how great it was we killed this guy, and he says, then he heard the story that apparently they missed with the first shot, so the guy was running in the desert in fear, and then they nailed him, and this is just great, because he knew he was like, you know, I don't understand this mentality of...
	Do you remember the president, I should have pulled that clip, remember he said to the Jonas Brothers, I got two words for you, predator drone?
	No.
	Don't you remember that?
	What?
	No, I don't remember that.
	Oh my god, I can't believe you don't remember that.
	Hold on a second.
	I don't remember.
	You played the clip.
	Yeah, like I have the clip on hand.
	Hold on a second.
	It was during the press thing, what it does every single year.
	Yeah.
	Oh, you're talking about the correspondence dinner.
	The correspondence dinner, right.
	So he's doing his humor.
	Exactly.
	And he said that as an item of humor?
	Yeah.
	That's sick.
	Hold on a second.
	Obama, Jonas Brothers...
	Predator drone.
	Well, if that doesn't find it, here it is.
	Oh, I love the interwebs.
	But don't trust anything you find on Google.
	Because, you know, it's probably...
	Jonas Brothers are here.
	They're out there somewhere.
	Sasha and Malia are huge fans.
	But boys don't get any ideas.
	I have two words for you.
	Predator drones.
	There you go.
	Very funny, Obama.
	Yeah, because it turns out he'll actually do it.
	Two words.
	I'll actually F you up, boy.
	So John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and I forget who the third douchebag is.
	They're all in Libya.
	Why?
	They're there with PepsiCo.
	What's the business they're dealing with?
	There must be some business action going on.
	It's only about business.
	Yeah, what are they getting in on it?
	Well, remember that these are the guys...
	He's retiring shortly.
	These are the guys that were all for the no-fly zone and removing Gaddafi, and they were out front and center.
	They're part of the defense committee or whatever it is.
	So, why were they out there?
	Well, of course, they were the CEOs of PepsiCo, the oil companies, and I have to give Shep Smith, Shep, Shep Smith, Studio B, Shep Smith, I gotta give him a little props, because he slipped in a little funny while he's talking to Lindsey Graham, who is a total douchebag.
	He is actually slamming Lindsey Graham on the air while he's talking to them, so they've left Libya now, and they had this whole thing, they're all hanging out with the TNC, which, by the way, in the UK is called the NTC. They can't even get their branding straight.
	So they're hanging out with the Transitional National Committee members who are saying, oh, it's going to be months until we get the government all together.
	Of course, you know, Gaddafi is still fighting in cert.
	And it's not done yet.
	But no reporting necessary, please.
	We don't need to know what's going on because we have Russell Simmons in Wall Street.
	And Chef Smith talks with Lindsey.
	He's in Malta now.
	He's out of Libya.
	And Chef Smith did a pretty good job.
	Well, I listened to you speak on there, and that sounded all peachy-cane and hunky-dory.
	Of course, the problem is, for 40 years, Muammar Gaddafi hasn't allowed anybody to organize, so there are no organized groups.
	There's no way to form a government.
	They don't have any idea what freedom is, has been, will be.
	I mean, and the not-war is still going on in a not-war way.
	I like the not-war.
	That's pretty good.
	Sort of pie-in-the-sky stuff and an opportunity for people to go in there and make a little money and not much more.
	Well, you know, you described us in 1776.
	They've got a lot of challenges.
	You're dead right.
	Their economy is crippled, but they've got a lot of oil.
	It's an oil-rich nation.
	They've got $134 billion identified.
	So that's what this is all really about, right, Senator?
	Oil.
	Well, to me it's not.
	It's about having people in a region to align themselves with democratic principles and not bring down Pan Am flight with Americans on it.
	I think this is in our national security interest to replace Gaddafi with people who could live in peace with us and we can do business with.
	I'm a big believer that democracies don't go to war with each other.
	Where you can find people willing to embrace the rule of law and democracy and fight extremists, you ought to help them.
	That sounds right.
	So about time to get over into Syria, huh?
	Well, Syria is a different problem, but that day is coming for the Syrian people.
	You know, they had 25,000 Libyans killed.
	60,000 wounded, 3,000 maimed.
	These are tough people.
	I mean, we can't really relate in our lifetime to living in a police state, but the folks in Syria keep coming.
	They keep sending in tanks.
	They keep sending in helicopters.
	And having a better life for your children is pretty contagious.
	I hope we'll push Assad out.
	I hope we'll do more embargoes, arms embargoes, and we'll speak up louder.
	You can't put troops into every place on the planet, but you sure can stand up for values like Ronald Reagan did during the Cold War.
	Valid.
	Senator Lindsey Graham in the Malta, just after being over there in the not-war territory in Libya.
	Senator, it's nice to speak with you.
	Thank you very much.
	I kind of liked it.
	He's off the reservation.
	He is.
	Well, he's one of the 50 most powerful gay men in the universe.
	That's what they say.
	I like the kind of not war thing, and it's all about oil.
	And then, you know, for Lindsey Gray, well, I sure hope we get Syria.
	Because I got me some buddies here.
	We got to go on a trip, field trip.
	We got to go to Syria.
	I hope we get Syria.
	I really do.
	It's just like 1776.
	What?
	Idiot.
	What an idiot.
	So here's my clippity-clop clip.
	So I'm always looking for a clippity-clop clip from Lucifer, who has hooves.
	And she walks out through the big double doors, and she's walking out with the foreign minister of Uzbekistan.
	The Uzbek foreign minister.
	By the way, it's the shortest press conference they've ever done.
	She says something, he says something through an interpreter.
	That way they can write it off.
	Yeah, which I'm not going to play.
	Well, first off, let's just listen to Clippity Clock, because that's always fun.
	Here, listen.
	On the rug now, and off the rug.
	I'm delighted to welcome her.
	She has hooves, man.
	Sounds like the Budweiser wagon.
	I'm telling you, she's got hooves.
	Clippity-clop, clippity-clop.
	And here she is.
	Foreign Minister getting off here to Washington.
	We are working well and closely together with Uzbekistan on a number of issues.
	And this gives us an opportunity to discuss matters of importance between our two nations as well as regional issues as well.
	So that's all she said.
	And I'm like, why is she hanging out with a dude from Uzbekistan?
	And I had to search around, and I found it.
	And for me, it's a new me.
	Maybe it's something we should have been tracking, or maybe I just missed it or whatever.
	But Susan Rice, my other favorite woman from the State Department, who was the United States Ambassador to the United Nations, kind of gave it away in the United Nations Council meeting.
	...
	moves towards the 2014 transition.
	We know that government alone...
	We cannot grow Afghanistan's economy.
	So we must all continue to work to create an environment that attracts private sector investment.
	Last week, Foreign Minister Rasul, German Foreign Minister Westerwelle, and Secretary of State Clinton met with 27 of Afghanistan's neighbors and partners to advance their shared vision of a new Silk Road.
	The New Silk Road is an Afghan-led venture, a rallying point for securing Afghan regional and international commitments to support Afghanistan's transition and develop a sustainable Afghan economy that will benefit the whole region.
	This is about the new Silk Road, and of course Uzbekistan is an important country bordering on Afghanistan.
	Perhaps we should go look back into history and understand what the original Silk Road was, and I thought you would be the right guy to ask.
	You throw this stuff at me out of the blue.
	The Silk Road, well, first of all, if you go to China and you float around, there's a bunch of Silk Roads.
	There's more than one.
	But the main one was to move Silk from China across to the...
	I don't know.
	I can't tell you.
	I mean, I don't know about the Silk Road.
	Well, you've heard of it, haven't you?
	Surely you've heard of it.
	Of course, I've been on the Silk Road.
	It's a training.
	It's a training.
	Oh, no, no.
	It's a huge trading route.
	It's very famous.
	But if you look into it, you'll find that this is called the Silk Road, that's called the Silk Road.
	The ancient Silk Road had Afghanistan at its heart of lucrative trade routes between Asia and the West.
	The new Silk Road will involve modern highways, rail links, and energy pipelines.
	So this is the new thing.
	Clinton met with 27 neighbors.
	Can you even name 27 countries around Afghanistan?
	27?
	I think there's like four.
	So the way this works is we go in, we let the CIA guard the poppies so they can sell it and make their money to go drone people, drone American citizens.
	The army does the work.
	Yeah, but the CIA is selling it.
	Yeah.
	The army protects the poppies, so the CIA can go sell it and drone people, because they need money for their drones.
	And then, meanwhile, we're building a new Silk Road right through Afghanistan, and you know that they were there with all the big industrialists.
	So this whole thing, why does no one even...
	Report a little bit on this.
	This is not from a news report.
	This is from the United Nations video feed, which is real video.
	This takes actual work to get it.
	Well, what do you think?
	Yeah, well, it's not happening.
	But watch for this meme, the new Silk Road to keep popping up.
	They'll be talking about it more and more and how great it is.
	And this is what's going to end.
	Why do we need a Silk Road in a day of aviation?
	Oh, no, no, no, no, no, John.
	Do I really have to tell you that?
	You know that that's just...
	All aboard, trains good, planes bad.
	Come on.
	You know better than to ask that.
	I'd like to see some trains run in through those Afghani mountains, yeah.
	Well, it's going to happen.
	It's definitely going to happen.
	What you're saying is that this is just a big money grab.
	Waste of money.
	Yeah.
	Well, not waste of money.
	It's going to be good for somebody.
	Not for us.
	President Sarkozy, by the way, was in Tangier, Casablanca to kick off the new high-speed rail line there, which France is paying for with $4.1 billion.
	Well, that's a waste of money.
	Someone must think it's good.
	I love this story about trains in Gitmo Nation East.
	The National Express East Anglia train ground to a halt under the baking midday sun outside of Ipswich in Suffolk after coolant levels dropped causing the engine to cut out.
	It was a whopping 70 degrees!
	Passengers, bemused passengers, the report says, sitting in these stuffy carriages heard a desperate plea over the tannoy from the driver for bottled water.
	So apparently people had to bring their bottled water to put it into the engine as coolant because the great trains in the United Kingdom crap out at 70 degrees.
	It was so hot.
	Unbelievable.
	Unbelievable.
	No, believe it.
	Just believe it.
	It's sad.
	I wish this train thing would end.
	It's kind of ended in this country.
	Except for California, of course, we're still moving ahead with a project that will never be finished.
	Well, it's still in the Jobs Act.
	It's in the AJ, in the American Jobs Act.
	Yeah, we already know that's not going to pass, so...
	Oh, some parts of it may.
	You don't know.
	You don't know.
	Alright.
	Let's see.
	You got anything else?
	Let me see here.
	I do have the BBC saying that in Northern Ireland they're now also linking the swine flu vaccine to narcolepsy.
	And they're blaming it all on pandemics.
	Pandemics.
	I'm sorry.
	Pandemics.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	So that appears to actually, there appears to be some truth to it.
	They can't get around it.
	Well, I thought it was an internet rumor.
	I thought it was bullcrap.
	No, it's not.
	Apparently it's true.
	But you can't trust the internet for that kind of stuff.
	You have to ask your teacher if it's okay.
	I have an odd clip.
	I never know quite what to do with it.
	I know what I'm going to do with it.
	I'm going to clip out this guy's voice and use it in the clip show, which is where this guy says, better safe than sorry.
	It's probably one of the most wimpish sounding men in the world saying better safe than sorry.
	They're trying to ban some fairly safe...
	Actually, it's kind of a soil conditioner fumigant, methyl iodide, which has been proven safe, and they're trying to replace...
	This is an agricultural story.
	They're trying to replace methyl bromide with this stuff, because methyl bromide's got quite toxic.
	And...
	And so there's some guy out of the blue, who's obviously corrupt, is trying to pass some law.
	But just play this and listen to this guy's voice and tell me this is a keeper.
	...reports the pesticide has caused any illnesses.
	While no grower in Monterey or Santa Cruz County has requested using the pesticide, Monning doesn't want to wait until that happens.
	Better safe than sorry.
	Let's be methodical.
	Let's review the science.
	So far, methyl iodide is approved in all 50 states.
	Who is that jabroni?
	So here's a product that hasn't been approved.
	Nobody's using it.
	Nobody's going to use it.
	It's illegal everywhere.
	But he wants to ban it for some unknown reason.
	And he says, better safe than sorry, which to me is the classic, you know, asshole saying better safe than...
	You can say that about anything.
	I mean, we were...
	When I was the editor of InfoWorld, we used to...
	We were in the early days of laptop computers...
	The FAA was banning their use on airplanes under all circumstances.
	And there was documentation that shows that there was no reason to do this.
	And the common thing that you do, you start asking around about this and the common thing they keep throwing back at you.
	Well, yeah, there's no evidence they do anything, but it's better to be safe than sorry.
	Better to be safe than sorry.
	I find it highly annoying.
	Whenever I hear somebody say that, I just get irked.
	Alright.
	My last clip is from the President.
	...that I could be when I was in high school.
	And certainly not when I was in middle school.
	I did not love every class I took.
	I wasn't always paying attention the way I should have.
	I remember when I was in 8th grade, I had to take a class called Ethics.
	Now, ethics is about right and wrong.
	But if you'd asked me what my favorite subject was back in eighth grade, it was basketball.
	I don't think ethics would have made it on the list.
	No kidding.
	Don't say.
	Yeah, every right-wing talk show pulled that one out of the blue.
	Really?
	Yeah, see, I don't listen to any of that crap.
	Yeah, well, I do.
	But it was actually interesting because he goes on for another ten minutes about what ethics really are, or really is, and I kind of pulled a right-wing talk show move here on you, because if you really listen to the clip and you just play that piece, it's way out of context.
	Yeah.
	But still funny.
	I'm sure it was.
	I mean, it's funny.
	I agree, it's funny.
	It's funny.
	But I mean, I don't understand where his speechwriters are coming from anymore.
	I think they, you know, when they were doing speeches early in 2008, they had this superstar kid that was doing all the speeches, supposedly.
	Remember this guy?
	Yeah, yeah, sure.
	Whatever happened to him?
	He's now a writer in Hollywood.
	Something.
	Yeah, no, no, no.
	He's not working there anymore.
	No, he left to go write for TV shows.
	Is this right?
	Yeah, hold on a second.
	What was the guy's name?
	It was Obama speechwriter.
	He was like 18 or something.
	He was a kid.
	He's a little older now.
	Let me see.
	John Lovett.
	Here it is.
	Award-winning comedian and Obama speechwriter is escaping the White House for the glitz and glam of the Inland Empire where he hopes to make a name for himself as a Hollywood screenwriter.
	What's his name?
	John Lovett.
	John Lovett like the comic?
	Yeah.
	J-O-N-L-O-V-E-T-T. It stinks.
	Yeah, it's true.
	It's always been a dream of mine to write comedy and be creative, said the 29-year-old.
	So he's 29 now?
	Is that the same guy?
	Seems a little old.
	Yeah, probably.
	Yeah, that is him.
	He was a wunderkind.
	He really blew it by losing him.
	Oh, yeah.
	Lovett has warmed his comedy chops in D.C. writing roasts for Hillary Clinton early in his career and going to something his former boss David Axelrod called comedy overdrive for Obama's White House Correspondents Dinner.
	Oh, he probably wrote the Jonas Brothers joke.
	Good job.
	Probably.
	Good job.
	Tasteless.
	Yeah.
	All right, everybody.
	Hey, I'm off to Austin tonight.
	Oh, is tonight the night?
	Yeah, we're going to go for three days, actually two days, flying back early Wednesday morning, very early.
	How's the weather in Texas right now?
	During the day, about 90 degrees, sunny.
	It's slightly warmer.
	I think you're getting storms in L.A. from that Mexican thing.
	Yeah, the Mexican I had last night is causing storms.
	I'll bet.
	Hey, we will be back again on Thursday right here.
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	In the morning, everybody.
	My name is Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, John C. Dvorak.
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