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Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
And Sunday, June 12, 2011, time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 312.
This is no agenda.
Reading UN documents so you don't have to here at the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center, Gitmo Nation West, the People's Republic of Southern California.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I can see it clearly, there are freight cars on the sidetrack.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
And Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
Ooh, I like that.
You did an in the morning slide whistle.
I did.
Do it again.
Do it again.
In the morning.
Come on, you can do it.
I can't do it.
You had it there.
That was because the music was going along.
I could play with the music.
You had it.
I'm not good acapella.
No, but you know, you're really getting good at the jingles.
Hot pockets.
I mean, you're getting really good, John.
That is good.
Hot pockets.
Hey, in the morning to you, my friend.
John C. Dvorak.
In the morning to you, Adam G. Curry, and to all ships at sea and feet in the air.
How come I'm G? I'm C. Oh, is it C? Yeah, Adam Clark Curry.
Also in the morning to all of our human resources who once again have loyally shown up in the chat room at noagendachat.net, noagendastream.com, and they're all charged up and ready exactly the way their government loves them so they can suck the lifeblood out of them.
Which is always nice.
So I have a new feature for the show, which I will introduce after the halfway break.
A new feature?
Well, thanks for the tease.
Oh, is that what that was?
Yeah.
Stay tuned for another hour of crap before you get to the really good stuff.
It's just a feature.
So, a couple things going on.
We might as well start off with our favorite topic, since it seems to still be top of the news, everybody.
Anthony Weiner.
Actually, I think that, well, go on.
Well, Anthony Weiner, yeah, he's still kind of top of the news.
And now he's announced that he's going in for treatment just in...
Treatment for what?
Carpal tunnel?
No, hello, hello, hello.
We've discussed this only just a couple weeks ago.
We talked about the DSM-5, which is the psychology report, which has all psychologists in the United States, at least, I don't know if it's worldwide, adhere to that.
And, of course, we have the new hypersexual disorder.
We don't have to go down the list, but Anthony Weiner qualifies for every single point.
So this is great.
It's a double whammy.
And so do we.
Well, yeah.
Of course we do.
I have a little more dark thought, though.
Actually, this is a friend of mine who's a high-powered entertainment lawyer who shall go unnamed because it's not a very safe job to have, high-powered entertainment lawyer.
At least if you represent people like Michael Jackson, you might wind up killing yourself.
But he threw out a theory at me, which really took me by surprise.
He said, I got a bad feeling about Anthony Weiner.
I said, what do you mean?
He said, I think the guy's going to off himself.
And then I'm like, of course, classic Clinton double tap.
You know how many people have died around the Clintons in some form of scandal?
Actually, there's a web page devoted to the Clinton body count.
Curiously, I have a Clinton clip.
How coincidental.
It's a classic.
I just thought I'd bring it into our mix of classic clips.
Okay.
Does it need any setup?
I don't think so.
I'm going to say this again.
I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms.
Lewinsky.
I never told anybody to lie.
Not a single time.
Never.
Sorry.
Greta Van Susteren played that clip.
Oh man, we've got to put this in the permanent collection.
Yeah, we do.
I feel bad for Anthony, but that would be a solution, right?
I mean, and it's so, you know, he could totally get the, you know, two to the head, gun in the left hand.
Yeah, shot three times in the chest with a shotgun, suicide.
Yeah, and then he hung himself.
Right, in the bathtub.
I hate to say it, you know, because I don't wish any of, but, you know, the people who are around the Clintons have a weird way of getting suicided.
It's just not, it's...
That's a pretty good one.
That's off the wall.
It's off the wall, but I was like, oh.
I like it.
No, I like it.
I like it, but I don't like it.
I don't like it, but if it happens, we've nailed it.
Yeah.
I like it, but I don't really like it because it's bad.
Hey, what the hell happened here?
Hey.
Oh boy, I have the wrong show notes.
What's going on here?
What'd you do?
I don't know.
Something...
Hold on a second.
Let me see what's going on here.
While you're doing that, I'm going to have a sip of a drink I made, a health drink, consisting of goji berries and green tea.
Who dreams up this crap?
I don't know.
Oh, God, it's terrible.
Alright.
That's that for that.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I'm just freaking out here for a second.
Do I have the wrong show notes?
What's going on?
Yeah, okay.
No, I'm good now.
I'm good.
Wow, that's kind of scary when that happens.
Why?
Why is it scary?
Well, because it's not like I don't work the entire week on putting my show notes together and then all of a sudden it's like...
You don't ad-lib the entire show the way I do?
Yeah.
No, I'm just not that talented.
Wow, my good.
Yes, you are.
I am just not that talented.
Uh-uh.
Uh-uh.
So, there are a couple of rather important things to go through.
Well, can I just bore us stiff?
Please!
Please, feel free!
Apparently, MSNBC has taken a turn for the worse.
And I guess the Comcast or Cable Town guys have really put the screws in.
So, they're trying to make Rachel Maddow's show real serious.
So, she did a hit piece on Wiener.
Citing mostly sources from Fox.
Saying these sources could all be bull crap, but it could be true is the way she finishes.
And a very long, breathless report.
Breathless.
She was like, this is the most important thing in the world.
She's telling us all the news about Wiener maybe.
Might be.
Could be.
Maybe.
DMing, you know, direct messaging, which is no big deal on Twitter, I might add.
Some teenager in Delaware...
Where I believe the age of consent is 16 anyway, but it's beside the point because people DM on this thing.
It's not like he's trying to pick her up.
Hasn't this already been investigated and they talked to the teen and there was no inappropriate behavior?
Isn't this all kind of like done?
Yeah.
Yeah, and by the way, that had already been done when this report was given, as far as I can tell.
But if you listen to this report, just listen to it, and tell me that this isn't like, this just doesn't make any sense that she would be doing this.
She's supposed to be defending this guy.
Why didn't she come out at some point during this idiotic report and say, this is bullcrap.
FoxNews.com said police had visited the home of a 17-year-old high school student in Newcastle, Delaware, to ask her about direct online communications she may have had with Congressman Weiner.
FoxNews.com reporting that sources have told them, sources, not the police department, sources close to the student told them that the girl followed Anthony Weiner on Twitter after hearing him speak during a school trip to Washington, D.C. And that the two of them, Congressman Weiner and this high school girl, had had a direct messaging conversation after that in mid-April and possibly on more occasions.
We called the Newcastle County Police Department in an attempt to confirm this story ourselves tonight.
A public information officer there told us only that officers responded to a call at a residence in North Wilmington this afternoon.
But the officer couldn't say what the police were investigating, what the age of the girl is, or if the investigation is in connection to Congressman Weiner at all.
Congressman Weiner's spokeswoman tonight said this, quote, According to Congressman Weiner, his communications with this person were neither explicit nor indecent.
The New York Daily News reporting tonight, quoting a source close to this girl in Delaware, telling the Daily News, quote, She was not targeted in any way and did not receive anything.
Any inappropriate messages or photos or anything from the Congressman, if she had, her family would have filed charges.
Charges!
Again, that from the New York Daily News, quoting a source close to this girl in Delaware.
So is this a damning new development with regard to Congressman Wiener tonight?
The headlines on FoxNews.com and other sites that have picked up the FoxNews.com story read as if it is a big, damning new development.
Frankly, the publicly available details on this do not necessarily support the implications in the headlines at FoxNews.com and at the New York Post and all over the Internet.
Not at least at this point.
Now, if there is more to report here, we will bring it to you as we know.
But those are all of the known details as of this moment.
Well, it's so obvious that...
She's breathless.
And you know what?
By the way, we need the sound clip, the background, the da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
You know that?
Yeah, the newsroom, the teletype.
The breaking news sound in the background.
This is, you know...
Please don't make me play that again.
Rachel Maddow, ever since Keith Olbermann left...
I agree.
She's just become worse.
She's terrible without Keith Olbermann as her kind of foil.
Yeah.
Alright.
I'm done with Wiener.
I hope it doesn't happen, but...
There's a history.
Anyone who wants to know our theory about what happened with Congressman Wiener, listen to episode 311.
I'll give you an idea.
Because there is some other actual real news taking place, John.
Yeah, real news, everybody.
So, let's go to Gitmo Nation Deutschland for a moment.
First, the deadly E. coli virus.
First, it was cucumbers from Spain.
Don't eat any lettuce, any eggplants, cucumbers, tomatoes.
Don't eat any of that.
You're going to die.
Oh, wait a minute.
It turns out it's not that.
It's bean sprouts.
Oh, wait a minute.
It's not bean sprouts.
But no, wait, wait, wait.
It's bean sprouts.
Epidemiological studies have shown that the connection between the AHEC outbreak and the sprouts...
This could be completely confirmed, not by laboratory tests, but by epidemiological studies.
How does an epidemiological study work, John?
They take, say, 100 people that got sick, and they ask them, they do a kind of a...
Say, what did you eat?
What did you eat?
Quick, before you die!
They look for the common factor, and it was all bean sprouts.
Okay.
Completely confirmed.
Pardon me?
Completely.
I mean, this time it's absolute, is it?
Yeah, we have no positive samples, laboratory samples, but it is given the evidence by epidemiological studies tracing back from the outbreak clusters and the source of the sprout production that there is a very, very close connection.
Alright, so we've got Adolf there telling us it's the bean sprouts.
Now...
This is a very interesting turn.
This was like two days ago.
And I have to give Robert Leather, our producer on Gitmo Nation, E some credit.
He...
Oh my God.
So...
What could be, I mean, who or what could we pin this on?
We have to pin it on something, right?
And how can we misuse this and completely turn around this entire event into something incredibly beneficial, John, if you and I were actually traveling in the elitist circles?
I would say look out for the first meme, which is always our code here when the number 33 pops up.
That means you should be perking up if you're listening to this program.
It's like, oh, there's a message, code coming through, 33.
And then what is actually being blamed on this horrible E. coli outbreak?
While you should still be careful about bean sprouts, it seems it's safe to go back to eating salads again.
Europe's month-long E. coli scare left at least 33 people, nearly all German, dead and some 3,000 ill in 12 countries, costing farmers hundreds of millions of euros.
Germany says one organic farm near Hamburg in Lower Saxony is the source.
There you go.
Organic farm!
Oh, yes!
They spotted that right away when they kept hounding these guys for being organic, because they're trying to, of course, this is part of a concerted effort.
You're right, the 33 thing cropping up is pretty suspicious.
Pretty.
Pretty is like, 33 people dead, 3,000 ill, organic.
When they throw it in my face, it irritates me.
But okay.
So this is...
And I guess what they're saying, John, and correct me if I'm wrong, because you already spotted this, obviously.
They're saying because organic farming makes use of...
It's dangerous!
...dangerous cow poop, that that's where the E. coli is coming from, and that's why we're dying.
And of course, Monsanto and all these guys have been trying to shut down...
Organic farming for such a long time, and they've been trying regulation, it couldn't get any better than to have the public actually scared to death of organic farming.
I mean, this is, just give it up.
Whole Foods, you might as well shut down.
Because this is going to spread worldwide.
Organic farming is extremely dangerous because you can get the E. coli virus that will kill you from cow poop.
Or am I wrong?
No.
You know, I think you're absolutely right, and I think the problem is this attack on organic farming is really also an attack on raw milk production in this country.
Oh, yeah.
Well, that's been going on for a while, but instead of using regulation, now you just scare the people into it.
Regulation hasn't picked up.
They have had too much pushback.
Yeah, it hasn't picked up.
Exactly.
By scaring the crap out of the public with this new bug, which apparently, which we deconstructed last show, which turns out to be a...
A hybrid.
Somebody bred it.
The high bread is what we call it.
A high bread.
Yeah, it's not like genetically engineered.
It's actually bread to just be resistant.
Bread to kill people.
Yeah, designed to kill people.
I don't know how they delivered it, though.
I mean, there's something missing.
I mean, it's a missing piece of the puzzle.
I mean, this is actually, if someone could just uncover a memo about this, I mean, this is essentially a conspiracy to commit murder.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Unless the 33 people are bogus.
Well, we've never seen the hospital shots.
And I mentioned this on the last episode.
With swine flu, we had the kid not breathing.
The kid's dying, but only one or two.
We had zero hospital shots.
I don't believe I've seen any interviews.
And I do watch Das Deutsche Fernsehen.
That's German for television.
I haven't seen any family members.
I haven't seen the funerals.
So, you're right.
It could be anything.
It could not be true.
What I did find...
A lot of people sent me this.
There's a documentary which is anti-Monsanto, I'll say right off the bat.
Briefly, for about 20 seconds, they go into how they create the Roundup-ready resistant crops.
And something caught my ear and eye when I listened.
And this may not be true, but this is at least what this documentary states.
After 12 years of searching, Monsanto found a soil bacteria that is naturally immune to Roundup herbicide.
Their goal was to genetically engineer DNA from these bacteria into various plants.
Some of the E. coli DNA recombines with the Roundup-resistant bacteria.
There you go.
So I guess they actually use E. coli in their modification of these crops in order to be resistant against the Roundup-ready product, which they sell.
Are you familiar with any of this process, John?
You as a scientist?
I don't know anything.
I'd never heard the fact that they use E. coli genes to...
To make these seeds round up ready.
Because it could, of course, just be genetically modified bean sprouts.
I mean, it must be hard to find organic bean sprouts.
I don't even think you can buy them anymore.
Yeah, but you wouldn't.
Do you?
I mean, I don't know if you can or not.
It's a good question.
We must have some organic farmers that listen to the show that keep careful tabs on this.
But I don't think...
I don't know.
Let's just open up a can of worms.
I know.
So to speak.
A can of E. coli worms.
Wow.
Yeah, this is very, very weird.
But regardless, the PR machine is cranking up full time to let you know that people died from organic bean sprouts.
Organic, organic, organic.
33 people died from organic bean sprouts.
It's just, okay.
I think the organic farmers that I know use rabbit poop as fertilizer.
I don't think anybody uses fertilizer whatsoever with bean sprouts.
They're grown in a container as mostly a hydroponic process.
There's no dirt.
There's no crap.
There's nothing that can have E. coli in it unless the liquid that you're using has it.
It's bull crap.
As a matter of fact, it's not bullcrap because it's not in there.
So that doesn't make sense.
Well, the signs are there, though.
We have to be very, very aware of whenever they throw the 33 at you, it's the code.
Maybe the Queen of England's going, Oh, it's okay.
We can eat bean sprouts.
They blew the 33 code.
Don't worry.
Can you just imagine it?
Oh, right.
Kate, here's Prince William.
Kate, Kate, Kate, you can't eat bean sprouts.
It's okay, love.
It has to be a 33 in combo with the 3,000.
It means the scam is over.
Right.
Yeah, it's like the all-clear sign.
Yeah, all-clear.
That's what it is.
Okay, you can do what you want now.
You've got to figure out, you know, if that's the all-clear sign, you have to wonder what the triggering sign is.
Maybe we don't have it.
Maybe we don't know what it is, or could we be catching these things earlier?
I don't know.
Well, 33 in 3,000 is just like, whoa, okay, gotcha.
Ah, my goodness.
Well, anyway, so I'd say we're safe.
Carry on.
The all-clear has been sounded.
The elite New World Order bat signal, just in time for the Bilderberg Convention.
I'm Builderboard is what I am.
I've been tracking those Builderberg conventions for a couple years, and now it's like, it's the same thing over and over again.
We all know who's there.
It's all the same douchebags.
It's a drinking club, I'm telling you.
Yeah, maybe, whatever.
I actually believe they're there discussing how to screw us.
But it doesn't matter.
The drinking clubs can do that.
Yeah, it's a drinking club.
Would you like a little more scotch?
Yes, please.
Scotch, what is this?
Where's my single malt?
Sir John, I want single malt.
I won't have your blended scotch.
Where's my Obam?
Now let's kill everybody.
Population's too high.
Wait, let me stroke my white pussy.
So we've got a bunch of guys sitting out there like, hey, you're evil!
It doesn't really help.
What does help is people who support this program.
I continue to amaze new friends that I meet out here and they say, so what do you do?
Hey, dude.
And Mickey's like, he's a media.
You make money from that?
No, it gets better.
Mickey goes like, he's a media assassin.
It's like, that's usually when they unfriend us.
It's like, let me explain.
It's like, no agenda.
Hmm.
And where can I listen to this show?
Oh, it's a podcast.
Oh, podcast.
Yeah, it's a podcast.
Yeah, when they hear podcasts, you see their body language go, hmm.
I thought you were like on the radio.
I thought you were like...
And they say, that's your studio?
What?
That's your studio?
He's only fooling himself.
Who are you talking to, yourself?
So, let's...
Thank our executive producers.
We've got a few today.
Including James Howard of Indianapolis, Indiana at the 3333.333 club member.
Nice.
Because of the mass media highlights of Wienergate and lesbian Lucifer Clinton while ignoring riots in Greece and the Department of Education SWAT team.
I'll give a chunk of my wage slave quarterly bonus to a couple of the dangerous lone wolves who are out the...
That's us, baby.
We're going to have to have Buzzkill Jr.
make sure that these concatenated notes are actually put in as full cloth because this got cut off and there's a bunch of other ones that did too.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Well, where's the shill?
Is he like feeding Henri?
Probably.
Norman McDonough in Kitchener, Ontario, Canada, 333.33.
And then we've got Joseph Frost of Wooddale, Illinois, who is now the lone...
Whoops, I'm sorry, there's two of them.
Two lone members.
Hold on.
We've got to be throwing these out now.
This is good.
312 Club donating...
A nearby area code 312 need the karma for the new job search and give them a karma shot.
Absolutely.
You've got karma.
And Baron von Pelsmachers comes in from Belgium with a 312 Club membership.
He's a monthly 33.33 donor.
He wants to know if he's entitled to a podcasting license signed by the podfather himself.
Yes.
In fact, we've been handing him out.
We'll give him two.
Yeah, podcastlicense.com and you get access.
It'll be stevenpelsmachers.podcastlicense.com which...
It's kind of cool.
Have you seen it, John?
Why don't I just answer the question for you?
No, you haven't.
Why don't you just go take a look at it right now so you can say, oh my gosh, that's amazing.
Please, please do that.
Please, just do that.
Well, let me get the old keyboard here on the lap.
Okay, whose name should I put in?
Yours?
You can do yours.
JohnCDvorak.podcastlicense.com Watch the site be down now as everyone is looking at it.
Now it comes up.
Official podcast license.
John Seymour is an official podcast license producer.
John Hancock and Adam Curry.
The founding father and the pod father.
There you go.
Yes, very good.
It's cool.
Right.
You didn't pay for yours, but we gave you an honorary one.
Really?
Mm-hmm.
That is so nice.
Yeah.
And so these are all executive producers.
Any associates for today's program?
Yeah, we actually have three associate executive producers, including Guava Tools in Lafayette, Louisiana.
Belated birthday shout-out to my twins that turned two on the ninth, Elliot and Elise.
Yeah, we have them on the list.
Okay.
And some karma for a new human resource on the way, if you would.
Yep, of course.
You've got karma.
Era Dardarian, our Black Knight era.
Ara.
Dardarian?
Dardarian.
Dardarian.
Shabuco Canyon.
Up and down your way, I think.
Hi, guys.
Please allow me to suggest a new initiative.
Official fuel supplier of the Hot Pockets Tour 2008.
Adam said the van has a 55-gallon tank.
Let's say the average cost of gas is $4 a gallon.
One...
Tankful will cost you $220, which is what he donated.
That's very nice.
Yeah, that's a good way to do it.
A tank of gas.
A tank for the van.
Hotpockets2008.com, everybody.
You can go check it out.
I'll put this on.
You make a link for that.
It's cool.
Hot buckets.
Dr.
O, Philadelphia PA, 200 bucks.
Please refer to me as Dr.
O, and now my real name.
Okay, got it.
Which is Obama.
Having just graduated from medical school, $200,000 in debt!
I know firsthand this country needs a drastic rethinking of education costs.
I don't mean the current mean that all degrees are bogus, and then it gets cut off.
The rest of his message isn't there?
This is not good.
Well, it will be correct.
Let's get a new spreadsheet from Buzzkill Jr.
before we do the donation segment.
Well, anyway, thank you very much, Dr.
O, for supporting the show, even with your $200,000 in debt.
That's unbelievable.
But this is what they try to do.
They make everybody do enslaving the public with his high amounts of debt.
And then if he misses one payment, they'll jack up his interest rate.
No, no, what do you mean if he misses one payment?
The SWAT team.
Break the door down.
Drag him out in his boxers.
Throw his kids in the cop car.
Wow.
Alright.
That's our support for the show?
That's our producer support for today's show.
That's extremely nice.
We appreciate that.
And we have more people we'll be thanking in our donation segment.
A couple of PR mentions now forwarding to NoAgendaShow.com.
I guess in light of the Glencore IPO, Gleancore and Cleancore...
.com and.net now pointing to noagentashow.com.
I'm not quite sure if that's going to help us a lot with our Google juice.
I do like the following.
Iamsickofbeingpoor.com.
That's pretty good.
Yeah.
I can see people.
I like that one.
Iamsickofbeingpoor.com.
I think we should be handing out domains on that one, too.
Adam Curry, Iamsickofbeingpoor.com.
Hello.
How are you?
Hello, everybody.
Nice to meet you.
HotPocketsTour.com, now forwarding to the HotPockets2008.com website.
Fantastic.
This is a really nice one.
I'm amazed this was available.
In the morning, Captain Curry, Uber Lord, and Super Meister of the Divine Podcast, and hi to JCD. Hail the foot!
So you know this is coming from Gitmo Nation Lowlands.
I am forwarding the following domain to NoAgendaShow.com, AIVD.NL. Now, I can't believe this domain name was available.
In fact, let me just check and make sure that actually is forwarding.
That blows me away.
AIVD.NL. The AIVD... Yeah, let me see.
Hmm.
I don't know if it's forwarding, and maybe it's not forwarding yet.
Hmm.
Now I'm getting suspicious.
I don't know if...
Nah, see, this is bullcrap.
I should have checked this before.
This is weird.
Hmm.
Well, AIVD, this is why I didn't believe it, is the Allgemeine Inlichting and Veiligheidsdienst.
It's like the Dutch CIA. That seems unlikely.
It's like CIA.gov.
We got that one, too.
Yeah, is this guy trying to hose me?
Well, I don't know.
So AIVD.nl seems to be forwarding to the Dutch CIA and not to us.
Okay.
GitmoBling.com forwarding to NoAgendaShow.com.
I like that.
And here's a new one.
NOSP.in, which, of course, means no spin.
That's kind of nice.
Kind of nice play.
That's also forwarding now to knowagendershow.com.
We already talked about our podcastlicense.com.
And for those of you who haven't seen it yet, if you go to podcastlicense.com, there's a link there.
Upon a $33.33 donation to the show, you get a free podcast license.
It's good for life.
We'll even link to your podcast.
And it looks like we've got a couple on the roster for today.
So that's great extra work for me, putting all that together.
All right.
Yeah, and I wanted to, I guess I neglected to do this, but although, of course, I wake up, I go to bed at night thinking about her.
I wake up in the morning thinking about her.
Baroness Maggie Vincent of Virginia says, you know, could I just have a little bit of karma?
She's got a couple things going on, so we're going to hand that out to her right now.
You've got karma.com.
Have you looked at her website?
No, I have not.
I didn't know she had one.
Yeah, MaggieVincent.com.
Oh.
Yeah.
And she's a sysadmin, right?
So she's like, I've got a wireless router all hooked up.
You're like, does it multiplex?
I'm going to see if it multiplexes for you.
It's like, oh my God, she came from heaven, Baroness Maggie Vincent.
How do you spell Maggie Vincent?
M-A-G-G-I-E-V-I-N-C-E-N-T. All I get is Squarespace.
M-I-G-G-I-E-V-I-N-C-E-T. Maggie Vincent.
V-I-N-C-E-N-T. Yeah.
Vincent.
No.
Okay.
Well, if you go to hotpockets2008.com, there's a link to her site right there.
And she has an RV blog.
She has a blog about the actual RV that she's kindly lending us to embark on our Hot Pockets tour.
We're going to fly to Virginia on July 15th.
Well, you could use...
That would be...
I like the way the...
Yeah.
What?
The way the rig is fake to look like.
Yeah, that's good.
I think that was...
I don't think it's actually been painted that way yet.
I think that's a Photoshop job.
But it's starting to look really good.
I don't see a link here to her site.
Go to the rig.
You got it?
Yeah.
Yeah, the rig.
And then you see Maggie Vincent's rig blog, RV blog.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Anyway, Maggie, she posts all these geeky pictures of her, and she's got glasses and stuff, like sysadmin.
I'm convinced.
Take the glasses off, and she shakes her head, and the hair falls loose down around her shoulders.
I think.
You'll find out soon enough.
Yeah, we're going to kick it off with a hot tub and martini party.
So, okay, MaggieVincent.com works, but www.MaggieVincent.com sends me over, which is one of those DNS issues.
Yeah, but that's old school.
Who the hell uses that?
Well, I know, but the point is that you should be able to...
No, you don't have to.
It's old school.
No, but it shouldn't be rerouting you to Squarespace if you use it.
That's a Squarespace issue, I'm sure.
Well, she's a sysadmin.
I'm sure she can fix it.
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The shill has, he sent me a note that he has sent them.
Yeah, he apparently has.
Yes, he has.
And he sent mine as well.
Except the ones overseas.
Okay.
Well, he sent mine so that the minute I get it, I can start showing pictures and stuff.
Yeah, the ones overseas, you've got to go to the post office and everything's different prices.
And he sent us the bill, which was also nice.
Yeah.
John's like, there's more money disappearing.
It's all right, man.
I'm glad we saved for it.
We set aside.
The rings, of course, aren't free.
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It's like, three more days till Halloween.
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So, I go to get ready for the show.
At 5 to 9, yeah.
No, that's when I called in.
What time did the clips come in?
Were they at 5 to 9?
I don't think so.
Not much earlier.
So, I decided to go on Twitter to see if there was any input, and boom!
Congratulations, dear Twitter user.
You've been selected to take part in our anonymous survey.
Oh, my goodness.
Oh, you're so lucky.
So it's a 30-second questionnaire.
I decided to do it on the show.
It's only five questions.
This is a good idea.
Let's rock and roll.
So question number one, are you male or female?
Now, I realize that this came out of the blue and during the Wiener debacle because, obviously, Twitter's got a lot of attention.
I mean, this is the time where they can go public.
There's all kinds of good things.
Yeah, this is groovy.
It's good for them.
Obviously, they need some information from the users to put together their package.
Their IPO, the marketing section of the IPO. Yeah, the dog and pony part.
Yeah.
So, they got five questions for me.
So, here we go.
We got one, male or female?
Okay, click.
Click, male.
And by the way, to say thank you, they're going to offer an exclusive gift including a $1,000 Best Buy gift card or an Apple MacBook Pro.
Wow, that's cool.
And or a cruise?
Is there a cruise in there?
No cruise, no.
The cruise that I have to pay for.
Isn't that the cruise that does not include your airfare, your trips, or your sewage fee?
Question number two, how many social networks are you registered with?
One, two, three, four or more.
Wait, so you have LinkedIn, you have Twitter, you don't have Facebook.
Right.
So you have two, any more?
I don't think so.
Okay, two.
So I'm writing two.
So I put two in, boom, it goes right to that.
It doesn't even let me think about it.
Oh.
Question three or five, what is your age?
10 to 17, 18 to 25, 26 to 39, 40 plus years old.
Oh, well, that's bogus.
I get lumped in with you?
I can't say that you and I have the same personality.
It doesn't say that.
You're full of crap.
What are the actual choices?
Do you want me to do a screenshot to prove it?
No, I believe you.
40 plus, eh?
Okay.
Just put in 33.
Can you put in 33?
No, I have 33.
I'm going to put in 10 to 17.
Okay.
Nice.
Okay.
And then do you get different questions, you think?
Or you don't know?
No.
This is obviously done.
This is a script.
Question number four or five.
Skip logic.
Yeah, skip logic.
How many hours do you usually spend on social networks per day?
Oh.
This is interesting because people who use Facebook are on the thing all day.
And by the way, it's pre-clicked.
Oh, it's pre-selected for your convenience?
Yeah.
What is the selection?
What's the selection?
The selection is 5 to 10 hours.
Oh!
In aggregate?
In aggregate?
None of the other ones.
This is pre-clicked.
I can't believe it.
Anyway, it says here's the option.
Well, so they're trying to stack their deck.
Duh!
Less than one hour?
One to four hours?
Five to ten hours?
I think you're one to four.
I think you're one to four.
I am one to four.
Five to ten is pre-clicked.
By the way, when you click on the other things, once you click, boom, it goes to the next question.
So how come it's not going to the next question already?
Right.
Five to ten and eleven hours and more, which would be most kids.
So I'm going to go back it off to one to four.
Okay.
And final question, number five.
Wait a minute, 11 hours or more was pre-clicked?
No, no, five to ten.
Jeez, okay, right.
I don't want to make people look insane.
How many more questions?
Because I'm getting bored.
One, this is it.
I told you five questions.
This is number five.
This is it.
This is the end.
All right, all right.
Question five.
How do you feel about switching your main...
Uh-oh.
This is interesting.
Ooh.
What are we getting?
This is the main...
This is the real question, by the way.
Let's just make sure it's a real person and not a robot.
And now the real question.
How do you feel about switching your main social network to another?
This is to get Facebook people to think about it.
Right.
What are the answers?
What are the possible answers?
Not a free click, but it says, I would definitely do it right at the top.
I'm okay with my current one.
There is a possibility, and I haven't thought about it.
So what are you going to click?
I would say there is a possibility.
I think it's a possibility with everybody.
But, of course, that will be bunched in in the final analysis with I would definitely do it, right?
Because what you said, people would either definitely do it or they're thinking about it.
Right.
So I'm going to click, there's a possibility.
And then what?
Now do we get a, congratulations, you're not eligible for your cruise?
It's going submitting, submitting, submitting, submitting, and now I can, please gift your email address and then what should I get?
A gift card, quantity left four pieces.
What is this quantity left crap?
John, is there a point to this or are we done?
We're done.
Alright.
Just put in my email address.
Adam at Curry dot com.
I'm fine.
And if I get the cruise, I'll take you with me.
Can you imagine you and I on a ship?
Oh!
In a cabin together?
It would have to be filmed as a reality show.
Yeah, as a fiasco.
Okay.
Hey, I watched the President's reality show, speaking of reality shows, known as the West Win Week.
It was a good episode.
If you've never seen this, it's on whitehouse.gov.
It comes out, I think, Thursday or Friday.
You know, they're a little lax on the schedule.
So there's three short, short clips, and the first two are just so abhorrent to me.
Because, of course, we have to continue to propagate the lie that because Obama, our president, rescued the auto industry, they're doing so great that they paid back all the money they owed us, the taxpayers, six years early.
I just want to reiterate for those of you who are new to this program that if you actually do a three-second Google search, you will see that yes, they paid back the money because we were loan sharking them with a 12% interest rate and they did a refi.
They refinanced at 8% and they've actually done nothing but refinance the loan.
So they're still in debt.
But it's being spun as if, oh wow, yeah, it's great.
So it starts off, and it's always hard when you get right into a clip that has kind of wild audio.
This is why I like the West Wing Week show, is because it has a lot of wild audio from behind the scenes, and sometimes it's kind of interesting.
So here's the president, as he's about to do a speech at Chrysler at the plant.
And he's walking, and the woman here says, you know, I'm a manager here at Chrysler, and I'm helping us.
I'm really working hard on the company.
And, of course, you want to listen to what the president says.
Shortly after the president.
Sorry.
Crap.
Wrong one.
Here we go.
Managed the investment at Chrysler for the past two years.
Good job.
Way to get our money back.
Yeah, thank you.
On Friday.
Did you hear that?
You couldn't hear it?
Yeah, just play it again.
Okay.
Listen to what he says.
Yes.
I'll do that again.
Managed the investment at Chrysler for the past two years.
Good job.
Way to get our money back.
Thank you.
On Friday...
Did you hear what he said?
No, I couldn't.
She says, I've been working as a manager here at the Chrysler plant for two years.
And he says, good job.
Way to get our money back.
Good job.
Way to get our money back?
Yeah, because this is the whole meme that has to be propagated.
Like, we got our money back.
Way to get our money back.
Then we have the assistant, the deputy press secretary.
He's the guy who does the voiceover, the annoying voiceover.
Since it's not clear in the audio, he has to make it very clear what actually went down.
Shortly after the president took office, the American auto industry was on the brink of liquidation.
Brink!
A collapse that many analysts say would have caused one million American workers to lose their jobs.
The president, though, made a decision to rescue the American auto industry.
Oh, the president made a decision to rescue.
Give him a cape.
John, he needs a cape.
He made a decision to rescue the auto industry.
Now, just two years later, the unthinkable has happened.
Unthinkable!
Chrysler is gaining market share, investing in their plants, creating jobs, making a profit, and the company has repaid all of the money committed to them by the Obama administration six years early.
The company is now positioned for success, and it's had a significant impact, not just on Chrysler workers, but on the broader Toledo community.
And he's running out.
You can hear them all cheering.
He's trotting onto the stage.
With his hands up in the air like a squirrel?
No, no, no.
He doesn't have his hands up in the air, but he's trotting like jaw.
I was like, yeah, everybody!
Hello, everybody!
I rescued you!
I placed my bet on you.
I did.
I put my faith in the American work.
Right there!
And I'll tell you what.
What?
I'm going to do that every day of the week.
I'm going to do that every day of the week.
Because what you've done vindicates my faith.
Vindicates his faith.
Vindicates his faith, John.
It vindicates his faith?
That's right.
It vindicates?
It vindicates...
What does that actually mean, it vindicates his faith?
I'm wondering how in that...
I don't know.
What does that mean?
Well, it should mean confirm the way he's using it in the sentence.
But vindicate is something...
It means something different, doesn't it?
Words do matter, ladies and gentlemen, while John is looking that up.
In fact...
Clear someone of blame or suspicion...
Show or prove to be right, reasonable or justified, but what's it got to do with his faith?
I don't know.
Here's what we should do.
It clears and blames or...
I'm sorry?
It clears...
I don't know.
It's poorly used.
When in doubt...
Consult the book of knowledge!
Thank you.
That's more than cute.
I like the cello in there.
Let's hear it again.
It's really good.
Consult the book of knowledge!
You know, one day, the guys over at NPR and stuff, they're going to wake up and they're going to look at our show and go, how did they do that?
How did they get it?
Like, people are making jingles for them, you know, they register websites, they don't pay $18 million for it.
One day.
Vindicated, according to Webster's, Merriam-Webster's, is avenge.
That's what I thought it was.
Yeah, to free from allegation or blame, which is a later one, and confirm, substantiate.
Okay, here it is.
B1 of the third definition.
In other words, obscure.
Confirm or substantiate.
So it confirms or substantiates his belief.
His faith.
His faith.
Justifies another one.
Justify, I think, is what he really means.
Well, that's good.
Since we're on the topic of explaining what words are, John, you really turned me on to the National Spelling Bee.
You had a clip which, what was the other word?
The foos?
Well, it's named on the clip.
I can't remember.
Yeah, I don't remember either.
And by the way, I want to say, you got the douchebag thing ready?
Yeah.
Play it for Twitter.
Douchebag!
I can't get off this stupid site because there's a so-called awards.
It's one of those phony baloney deals which sends you to a million other sites saying, here, today's winner, and I can't close the browser, and it tells me congratulations, congratulations, I have to take another survey, and I have to literally go and control, alt, delete, and kill Firefox to get off this thing because if I click to close it...
I get a message that says, you're about to close five tabs, and then, oh, I finally could close it.
Nope!
Now it comes back.
Now it's, I can't get off this page.
This is, don't take this, this is a piece of crap.
I can't believe these people would do this.
Really?
You have a hard time believing that?
I don't.
Yeah, well, okay.
Anyway, go on.
I don't have a hard time believing that at all.
I have to go close all the browsers.
I've got to blow them up with Program Manager.
It's unbelievable.
So, I can't remember for the life of me, what was the...
Well, being foos or something.
Hexafoos?
Hexafoos.
Hexafoos.
See?
Hexafoos.
Now, that was not the girl who won the spelling bee, though.
No.
Okay, so President Obama welcomed the winner of the spelling bee to the White House.
And this was also on his reality show, The West Wing Week, and he has a little tete-a-tete with the winner of the spelling bee.
Also in the Oval Office, the president met with the 2010 and 2011 Scripps National Spelling Bee champions.
Now, what was your winning word?
Cymatricus.
Cymatricus.
Okay, Cymatricus.
John, Symatricus, would you like to give Symatricus a go?
Can you use it in a sentence?
Yes.
Adam Curry is very Symatricus, whereas John C. Dvorak is not.
No, no, no, no, no typing!
Do not consult the Book of Knowledge!
No, no, no, you cheater!
You cheat, cheat, cheater!
Are there any alternative pronunciations?
Uh, no.
How do you spell it?
Well, here goes our president.
Symatricus.
S-Y... No?
Okay, I've already got gonged.
It's C-Y-S-Y. Cymatricus.
Of course he does take time out to ask what it means.
Okay, go ahead.
Spell it.
C-Y-M-O-T-R-I-C-H-L-U-S. Okay, and what is Cymatricus?
It means having wavy hair.
Oh, interesting.
Having wavy hair.
Great word.
By the way, I was watching Obama on...
Well, actually, when you're done with this, I want to talk a little bit about the state luncheon he had for the...
For Angela?
Yeah.
Okay, then let me just finish up.
And by the way, this was the gray, gray Obama.
Oh, it was the other guy?
Yeah.
So I also watched our president's weekly address.
And I'm getting very disturbed by the messaging that he...
And by the way, he's phoning it in now.
He's fumbling.
He's like, eh...
Because it's the same message over and over again, but now it's becoming apparent because even the writers are getting lazy.
But he did something earlier in this week, and this is in his address.
And by the way, I feel that every American citizen should watch our president's address.
I don't understand why it doesn't have like 300 million views on YouTube, because everyone should be watching this.
It just doesn't.
And it's always a YouTube video, interestingly enough.
So it should be watched.
Now, he's come up with some scheme which concerns me greatly.
It sounds rather slavish.
On Wednesday, I announced commitments by the private sector, colleges, and the National Association of Manufacturers that will make it possible for 500,000 community college students to get a manufacturing credential that has the industry's stamp of approval.
If you're a company that's hiring, you'll know that anyone who has this degree has the skills you're looking for.
So, if you go to community college and you get a stamp, That says you're good to work in a factory?
Did I understand that properly?
Apparently, yeah.
I mean, what?
How does that work?
500,000 new factory slaves.
It's like, are you in community college?
It used to be like, oh, I'm so sorry.
You're in community college because, you know, your parents are on welfare.
You're in community college.
Now we get, at first he calls it a certification.
Then it's like something else.
Hold on a second.
What did he say?
The National Association of Manufacturers that will make it possible for 500,000 community college students to get a manufacturing credential.
Okay, it's a credential first.
That has the industry's stamp of approval.
You get a stamp of approval from the industry.
What industry and where are you going to get a job?
Well, hold on.
It's the manufacturing industry, i.e., slave factories.
You get a stamp.
Oh, whoops.
Yeah, you're approved.
Here, stamp.
If you're a company that's hiring, you'll know that anyone who has this degree...
Now all of a sudden it's a degree.
It went from a stamp to a degree.
...has the skills you're looking for.
What skills?
Titan bolt next.
Titan bolt next.
If you're a student considering community college, you'll know that your diploma will give you a leg up in the job market.
Oh, a leg up!
This does not sound like the America I was born into.
On Monday, I'll travel to North Carolina.
Whatever.
So then, John, let me ask you.
This is going to hurt you.
What is the American dream?
What is the dream that we're an immigrant country?
That we can all get rich.
Is that not truly the dream?
Yeah, that's it in a nutshell.
The dream is...
And I'm sorry, you know, you may not like it.
You may think it's abhorrent.
But the American dream has always been, if you work hard in America, you can be the guy driving the Rolls Royce.
And this is why immigrants came to Ellis Island.
Like, hey, I want to try and make it in America.
In the United Kingdom of Gitmo Nation East.
People still say, in the entertainment industry, it's very apparent, I can only make it to America.
Because there you can make it.
If you work hard, you can become the top of the bill.
Is that not the American dream, John?
Yeah.
Wrong!
In the end, the folks I hear from in letters or meet when I travel across the country, they aren't asking for much.
They're just looking for a job that covers their bills.
They're looking for a little financial...
Be quiet!
You're interrupting this dream!
It's the American Dream speech!
...much.
They're just looking for a job that covers their bills.
They're looking for a little financial security.
They want to know that if they work hard and live within their means, everything will be alright.
They'll be able to get ahead and give their kids a better life.
That's the dream each of us has for ourselves and our families.
That's the dream!
That's the dream!
Just pay my bills.
Just a little bit more than paying my bills.
Sorry.
I'm sorry.
This hurts me as an American citizen.
That just doesn't make sense.
That's not the dream.
No.
That's not the American dream.
The American dream is not to get by on a starvation wage and be able to pay your bills and pay off your credit card and be lucky to be alive.
Get a stamp.
Get a stamp so you can work in a factory.
That's not the American dream.
Who is he kidding?
This is typical of this group of people that are running this government.
And it's all of them.
I don't care.
All of them.
All of them.
Every single one of them.
Yeah, they're up there and you guys are lucky to be alive.
By the way, I'm living the dream right now.
Does that help?
I'm living Obama's dream.
Michelle Obama's got, what, 26 staff members working for her on a day-to-day basis with a budget of a million dollars a year just to comb her hair?
Yeah.
She's living the American dream.
No, no.
John, you and I are living the American dream according to our president.
Just enough to cover the bills.
And if I just play by the rules, I can make a better world for my children tomorrow.
I will leave her one dollar.
Here, kid.
I'm dead.
Here's a dollar.
I'm surprised none of the right-wingers have picked up on this meme.
No one watches it!
Apparently not.
You're the only guy in the country that watches it and you foist it on our audience.
Let me see how many people have watched the YouTube video.
Seriously.
It comes out on Friday night, I think.
I'm going to whitehouse.gov.
Hey, www.whitehouse.gov doesn't work.
I'm just kidding.
Actually, DepartmentofHomelandSecurity.gov doesn't work unless you put the www in front of it, douchebags.
Oh, 14,940 people have watched this address.
Wow.
I mean, dude.
That's it?
That is it?
Ugh.
By the way, he ends pretty funny.
Listen to the ending of his speech.
...privileged of serving as president.
I'll keep fighting to put that dream within the reach of all Americans.
That's right.
Have a great weekend, everybody.
Have a great weekend, everybody.
Take that dream.
Have a great weekend, everybody.
I want to work very hard every day.
I want to make sure you have that dream of just being able to pay your bills.
Have a great weekend, everybody.
Michelle, get your slaves down here.
Comb my hair.
I'm sorry.
Any president who talks like that should just be thrown out of office just for the thought.
That is not our American dream.
It may be what we're striving towards to not die, but don't call it the dream, please.
Do not call that a dream of America.
That's degrading.
And if people don't like our dream, well, don't come here.
Here, you work hard, you can be successful.
Not just get by and pay your bills.
That was appropriate.
Yes, it was.
All right, John.
Why don't you take the wheel?
We had this thing from Merkle.
And what was interesting is C-SPAN... It's hair Merkle to you.
Hair Merkle.
I've never seen this before.
They actually showed the people coming in and announced...
I've seen that.
Were they the Honorable?
Yeah.
They haven't come in through.
I've never seen it before.
Diane Sawyer was there.
Everyone was all dressed up.
It was like a big elite fest.
Yeah, and then they ate outside.
Yeah, like a cookout.
And Obama came in.
I watched the whole thing.
I was kind of riveted by the people coming through because I have a few comments to make because I took some notes.
Especially when I got the biggest kick out of it, they would announce somebody's husband, somebody's wife, depending on who was actually invited, or they say so-and-so with guest.
Yeah.
With guests!
Plus one!
And then they would have these people that would come in stag.
And so there'd be these guys.
There'd be a couple of women coming in as a couple.
But I never saw two guys coming in as a couple.
The Honorable Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak!
So, so the, but there was, it was Miss, and they made a point of saying Miss.
Miss.
Sarah Bloomfield.
Uh-huh.
And she was, she came in stag.
It should be Miss, not Miss, but Miss.
And she kind of basically came through this little thing.
There was a line of press, and they were taking pictures.
They didn't have the backdrop, you know, like they do in Hollywood.
It was like a red carpet walkthrough.
And she just kind of stomped through very annoyed.
And I'm thinking to myself, you can't get, Anybody to come with you?
To the White House, really?
Not a single person?
I mean, please.
What does this say?
John, you know, I'm telling you.
First of all, ladies and gentlemen, if you're new to this program, yes, indeed.
Watching C-SPAN actually does entertain us.
And we actually enjoy it.
But we could do, like, the fashion police.
We could do a whole bunch of shows around this red carpet at the White House.
No one's doing it.
It's an open field.
It's quite open.
So anyway, you got her husband and the guy's name.
Anyway, I got to see a couple of interesting things.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz comes in and the Honorable Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
Who is she?
Who is she?
She's a congresswoman.
And she says, with her husband, Steve.
And meanwhile, she comes barreling through and the guy's left...
Left in the back, he's like looking left and right, he has to catch up to her.
This is what's wrong, it's show business for ugly people, but they don't have like the greeters, you know, because if you look at how the Academy Awards work, you get a person, right?
A woman with a walkie-talkie, like some annoying little gnome that walks with you and makes sure that you get to the right place in front of the cameras at the right time, that you don't get separated from your date.
And the worst ones are the guys who've never been to the White House before.
They actually, a couple of them come through, and then they stop and talk to the media.
Oh, no.
Hanging up the whole event.
Yeah, because that's another job of the production assistant walkie-talkie troll.
She's supposed to be like, okay, okay.
Move it.
Push you along.
Move along.
Honorable Mitch McConnell, or Congressman Mitch McConnell, with the Honorable Elaine Chao.
This woman is like this knockout Asian, and Mitch McConnell's this old fart, and he's got this shit-eating grin on his face.
Hey, look at my biatch.
Look what I brought to the party.
So James Taylor comes in with his wife.
James Taylor, the singer.
Yeah, and then he stops, but they have the mic on him, so he makes this comment, which I had to write down.
They're talking about what he's going to be playing, apparently, some songs because Obamas are big James Taylor fans, I guess.
How square and white can you get?
And he says, he makes this comment, they specifically suggested to play You've Got a Friend.
Oh, no!
He says that?
Yeah!
No!
Oh, no, you're kidding me.
And then they show, and here's the thing that kind of got me.
They show the beginning of the thing, the outside where Merkel comes up, and the place is surrounded by Marine guards, and they're playing military stuff, and they go in, and the Marines, they've got flags every which way, and they're banging their rifles on the ground, and they're spinning around, and they're doing all this weird stuff.
And I think, when did this country become so militaristic?
I doubt during the Eisenhower administration they had this much military pomp and circumstance and Merkel looked like she looked very uncomfortable with it because it was just so formal.
And he had the gold eagle speech holder.
Yes, so he gives the boringest speech ever and he's got this big gold eagle thing and I've never seen it.
You talked about it last show and I've never seen it.
Herr Angela has the Congressional Medal of Freedom.
And they're bowing to each other.
Oh, did you see that Michelle bowed to Angela's husband, but she bowed to give him a kiss, and she winds up kissing the top of his head?
It's hilarious.
The kisses were ridiculous.
Yeah, she's on top of the steps, and she bows down to kiss him, because that's the Hollywood thing to do, and he's doing like, and he bows over, which is very correct in Germany and Austria.
I'm surprised he didn't click his heels.
Very nice to meet you!
This is a joke.
It's like a monarchy.
When did we become a monarchy?
Well, hello!
Yeah, why are we doing the show?
Exactly.
We might as well...
Hey!
Exactly.
It's hilarious.
No, I know.
And people, you're missing out on this.
C-SPAN is awesome.
You can put that in your t-shirt.
C-SPAN is awesome.
It is.
It really is.
You have to wade through a lot of crap.
But once you get to the gyms, and there's no commercial interruptions.
I have to say, that's the beauty of it.
Anyway, I was quite amused.
I'm sitting there.
Hilarious.
Just watching these people walk through being announced.
It was actually quite funny.
It's great.
It really is great.
Enough.
So I was watching a little bit of C-SPAN. Actually, I watched hours of C-SPAN. Did you actually have the wherewithal to sit through the Leon Panetta hearing?
No.
Okay, so Leon Panetta...
I think I DVR'd it.
Oh, it's hours.
It's hours and hours.
It's too long.
So I had it on, you know, all day.
Much to the chagrin, I might say, of certain people I live with.
But, you know.
It's a...
So this is the confirmation hearing of Leon Panetta.
So Leon Panetta is currently our director of the CIA. And his job is to run the CIA. And now there's been this big swap and Robert Gates is going out.
And it's all very convenient that this is taking place now because in July we had a promise from our president.
Our president said, even before he got in, he said, I am going to take all of our troops out of Iraq.
Right?
Was there anything else you said along with that, John?
I think he said you can take that to the bank.
Yeah, but I thought we already took the troops out, but apparently not.
No.
Yeah, you can take that to the bank.
You can take that to the bank.
And that was the promise.
Yeah, you can take that to the bank.
It's so long ago, I can't even find the jingle.
I got it here somewhere.
But he says you can take that to the bank.
Oh, here it is.
You can take that to the bank.
Take that to the bank.
I will get our troops out.
You can take that to the bank.
So now, we have Leon Panetta is going to become the Secretary of Defense, which of course means the total melding of the secret intelligence services, the CIA, and our military-industrial complex.
It's a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful setup.
So Panetta, it goes on for hours.
Hold on a second.
Gates came out of the CIA, so nothing's new.
Yeah, but okay.
But it's never been this bad, I think.
It's never been this open and apparent.
And Gates has been in for a long time.
So, this goes on for hours and it's all set up.
It really is.
And McCain is always the straight man.
You want to set something up?
Hey, McCain, here's your line.
Ah, okay.
Okay.
So, totally it.
This is show business people.
John and I view it as shit.
What's my line?
Hey, where's my sides?
Time to go into the hearing.
What's my...
Just put it on the prompter.
If Prime Minister Maliki, the Iraqi government, requests that we maintain a presence there, that ought to be seriously considered by the President.
Do you think it would be in our interest to do that, given the situation?
Senator, I have to tell you, there are a thousand al-Qaeda that are still in Iraq.
A thousand!
He counted every single one of them!
A thousand al-Qaeda!
A thousand!
A thousand!
You don't think...
A thousand!
There's a Panetta's on the inside.
The attack that was made just the other day, it too continues to be a fragile situation.
And I believe that we should take whatever steps are necessary to make sure that we protect whatever progress we've made there.
So in other words, if we're asked to stay, we're going to stay.
So what do you think is going to happen?
Gee.
You know, explain it to me, please.
We go in, we attack a country, we take over the country.
Oh, you want us to stay?
Okay.
No problem.
We'll stay.
Yeah.
Yeah, the French told the Germans the same thing in World War II. They told them they really enjoyed their company.
Yeah.
They love the fact they're doing a really good job in Paris.
Have some cheese.
And they really like the fact that the Germans would go down to Bordeaux and steal all the wine cellars.
You could take that to the bank.
Yeah.
That's really nice.
So that was about all I got out of that.
Now, however, I know...
It was a waste of one day.
A full day.
And they actually had to break away.
C-SPAN had to break away to tell you what else was coming up.
Otherwise, they're like...
Hey, are you still awake?
There's more coming up on C-Stan, more riveting testimony.
Hey, wake up!
Okay, so there's something, a horrible, horrible hit is taking place now.
And all of a sudden, everything started to click together for me.
Uh-oh.
Yeah.
So we've been hearing these reports, and actually I have one of these said reports, but it's repetitive, about...
Actually, let me go back.
Libya.
John, when the first resolution was signed, resolution 1970...
Which came just days before Resolution 1973.
And we read both resolutions here on the air.
We went through them.
Resolution 1970 called for something very specific.
Resolution 1970 said, we need to send the United Nations Human Rights Council into Libya to make sure that, you know, like there's not some human rights violations going on.
Otherwise, we might have to do something that we put in Resolution 1973.
And you and I discussed on this very program that they said, okay, well, we'll have the report done somewhere around June.
June, July.
We've got to go to Libya.
We've got to do our reporting.
So we're going to go.
We'll come back.
We'll let you know.
And then three days later, his resolution 1973.
Two days later, we're bombing everybody.
We did not wait for the Human Rights Council report.
There was no time.
Well, that came in.
Oh, no, it did?
Oh, yes, it did.
That takes forever.
No wonder we couldn't wait.
Well, actually, it's right on time.
It's around the time they said.
They said, you know, it'll be around June.
Okay, so what did it say?
90 pages.
And before I say that, what have we been hearing everyone talk about?
Gaddafi is giving his troops Viagra so they can systematically rape people.
They're using stiff penises as weapons of mass destruction.
These guys are horrible.
Throw more bombs on them.
That's pretty much what we've heard from the president of the International Criminal Court, from Hillary Lucifer Clinton.
This is what they're all saying.
You know why they're all saying this, John?
Because that's the only thing in the report that is somewhat conclusive.
I read through all 90 pages last night and let me highlight.
So, of course, the first thing you want to do is you want to go to the conclusion paragraph.
Finally, the commission feels that at this stage, it is not in a position to identify those responsible, as requested by the Human Rights Council in the resolution establishing its mandate.
In other words, there might be something going on, but we don't know exactly who's doing it.
Okay, so remember now, your president told you, slaughter, massacre, we have to stop it, it's all horrible, it can't go on.
So let's look at some of the general observations.
And the report is, it is worth a read because the use of words is hilarious.
With regards to the use of weaponry, the Commission is concerned that the Libyan authorities have not been making appropriate and precautionary assessments which would, in the Commission's view, militate against the use of weapons such as mortars in densely populated urban areas.
In other words, they're not throwing mortars.
They're concerned that they aren't taking precautions that it might happen.
Further investigation, however, including forensic analysis, would be needed to confirm use of any of these ammunition at all.
The consistent pattern of violations identified, so there are violations, by the way, both sides, both the rebels and the Libyan government.
This is throughout the entire report.
Well, it's both sides.
We're not quite sure who's doing what.
The consistent pattern of violations identified creates an inference that they were carried out as a result of policy decisions by Colonel Gaddafi.
An inference.
What does that mean, John?
Inference.
It means that A leads to B, or A implies B, or there's a possibility that what we think is happening is happening because of this.
Or in other words, in this same paragraph, the commission received some information concerning individual perpetrators of crimes, but more investigation is also required on this issue.
And it goes on and on and on and on.
They have no conclusive evidence.
Now, The only thing that's in this report where they actually have a person that they spoke to.
Section 212, sexual abuse.
Reports of rape committed by government forces have been recounted by numerous persons with whom the commission met.
The commission had the opportunity to speak with only one victim of rape.
What?
Only one victim of rape.
I thought everyone was getting raped.
Now, Ms.
Iman al-Obaidi, whose case of gang rape by government forces has been well publicized by the media, allegations of rape committed by armed opposition forces and armed civilians were made to the commission by other persons, including in some cases family members.
The number of cases reported was small.
Don't say how small, just small.
However, the Commission recognizes the difficulties in collecting evidence in cases of sexual violence, including victims' reluctance to disclose information, because in Libya, the fact that Libyan criminal law punishes the flogging by flogging sexual relations outside of a lawful marriage.
So what they're saying is only one person would tell them about this systemic issuance of Viagra to make people, to make Libyan forces rape women, weapons of mass destruction.
She was highly publicized by the media.
By the way, throughout the entire report, they continuously refer to CNN reports, MSNBC reports.
That's kind of like, well, this was reported, so we think this is going on, but we couldn't really find anyone to say anything about it.
Couldn't.
Of course, CNN and the rest of them are getting it from Twitter, who are getting it from Hillary, who are the whole thing.
You're jumping a little bit ahead, but you're right on.
More speculative information repeated what was that members of the Kata'eb We're found with condoms and Viagra pills, leading those recounting these occurrences to suggest that troops were given instructions to engage in rape, that they were supplied with both the pills and the condoms.
So Kata Eb is like...
Well, hold on a second.
Well, you know what you have to do, don't you?
Wait, wait, wait.
Consult the book of knowledge!
Well, I think we should do that, but I'm wondering why a rapist, when rape in a war situation is a way to kind of push your genetic structure into another unknown population, why condoms?
Why a rapist is once a condom.
Hold on a second.
I'm going to rape you, but I want to make sure it's safe sex.
This is horrible.
This is so horrible.
But we have to laugh about it because it is a laughable thing.
So this is why you get reports like this in the mainstream media.
Hello and welcome.
War crimes are alleged by both sides in the Libyan conflict.
Now the International Criminal Court says there is evidence that Colonel Gaddafi ordered his forces to use rape as a weapon of war.
Now that's a blatant lie.
That's a lie because we're looking at the report.
There is no evidence that Colonel Gaddafi, in fact it says it's not Colonel Gaddafi, it's the Qadda'eb, which is not Gaddafi.
So it's a blatant lie here from the BBC. This comes as the United Nations Human Rights Council prepares to meet in Geneva to debate a report which also alleges that Libyan opposition forces were involved in acts of torture.
Daniel Griffiths has the latest.
The battle for Libya, a brutal conflict that's left thousands dead.
Both sides have been accused of war crimes.
The UN's debating the issue later today.
Now that Colonel Gaddafi faces fresh allegations of abuses from the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court.
This time that his forces have used rape as a weapon of war.
Rapes in Libya were not normally the normal tactic Okay, so let me just read you the conclusion of sexual abuse in this very report.
This douchebag is citing, the commission received but was unable to verify individual accounts of rape.
However, the commission notes there was sufficient information received to justify further investigation to ascertain the extent of sexual violence, including whether cases were linked to incitement by the commander of either side.
It is evident that the reports of the rapes have had a major psychological and social impact and have spread fear among the population.
Given accounts that rape was committed as part of a policy to spread such fear, further investigation would be warranted.
In other words, inconclusive, certainly not what this guy just said.
His policy, Gaddafi made his troops go out and rape.
So they are desperately trying to use this whole rape and Viagra thing to justify going in and bombing people, bombing a sovereign nation without rape.
With a lie!
With a lie!
Oh, you're so stunned!
They lied!
Yeah, when people get...
They lie!
Yeah, well, when...
Yes!
Yes!
John, give me a break here.
I'm reading the actual report these people...
The douchebag of the...
No, we do on this show!
Why has this one got you more upset than...
I'll tell you why.
I'll tell you why.
I'm going to tell you why.
Because what do we then have to do?
And this even got Mickey...
And Miss Mickey is on the ball, and we almost had an argument about this, although I thwarted it in my usual manner.
I was just like, shut up, Curry, shut up.
Just go about your business.
Can I pour you some tea, darling?
So, of course, this is not working.
We've got the rape thing, the Viagra thing.
Curry and Dvorak are laughing at us.
Get CNN on the ball.
Call Wolf Blitzer.
Blitzer.
Blitzer.
We need a report.
A rocket attack in Misrata, Libya.
A house all but destroyed.
A story all too common in Libya.
I'm sorry, Don Lemon.
But there's a face of the story now.
We really want you to see.
A face!
There's a face to the story.
So, we don't have any actual proof of any crimes of slaughter and cutting people's heads off or we had to go and bomb them and throw predator drones, but we have a face.
We have a face and Don Lemon will bring you the face and listen to the tone of his voice.
The face of a five-year-old girl whose brother and sister were killed in the blast.
She survived, but lost her right leg.
Oh no.
I want you now to watch this from our Sarah Seidner.
I want you now to watch this.
This is the face of Lydia.
I love you!
Five-year-old Malek is cranky.
She just woke up from an afternoon nap.
I used to be able to play and run around, she says.
But now my leg's been shot off.
For Malek, life will never be the same again.
At the height of the siege of Misrata, a rocket almost certainly fired by...
Almost certainly fired.
Almost certainly.
This is the reporting we're getting.
Almost certainly.
They don't know anything.
This...
Ugh.
Yeah.
This is a boga...
And little kids...
That are damaged in these war zones don't make these...
They don't lament stuff like that.
They're just sad.
Of course.
And so it's a heart-wrenching, gut-wrenching, you know, tear your guts out through your throat story.
Yeah, it's just done by a PR company.
Oh, my God.
And you just sit there and you're like...
And it got Mickey, right?
And I'm like, honey, it's a PR job.
They can't convince us any other way until we have to get a small child who, of course, this is horrible...
Have we seen this of the million Iraqis?
Here's Abdul.
He used to live in Baghdad until his head got blown off.
No, we didn't see that one, did we?
I don't remember those reports.
Oh, here's Colonel so-and-so, proud U.S. Marine, who got his head blown off and didn't come home to his kids.
CNN, Don Lemon.
Don Lemon, Don Lemon.
Douchebag!
Don Lemon, you're a douchebag for even working there.
They're all douchebags.
So, yeah, it really, really irked me that that's what they're resorting to.
So now CNN is just doing the whole Pentagon propaganda.
Well, actually, this is all it seems to be.
I think this war's been taken over by MI6 or the Brits, because that's why they're making these kind of huge blunders like that BBC report.
That's way off the mark when you have the report in front of you, and it's completely contradictory.
This doesn't sound like our guys.
Sigh.
Well, but I don't care about any of that.
You know what's actually great?
Dr.
Ron Paul, who's on the CNN Express, everybody.
Of course, Monday we had the big Republican debate, which does not include Gary Johnson.
Unfortunately.
And he gets asked about this.
And Ron Paul, you've got to love Ron Paul.
Because he says exactly the way it is.
The President is absolutely wrong.
And you don't even need the War Powers Resolution because the Constitution is enough.
And he can't go to war without permission from the Congress.
So the War Powers Resolution was meant to put some restraints on the President.
And technically I'm not all that excited about the War Powers Resolution, believing the Constitution would be enough.
But...
It is a real insult to the American people.
It's an insult to Congress for him to say, I don't even need to tell you.
All I need to do is get a U.N. resolution and then use the force through NATO. NATO was set up to fight and stand up against the communists.
So they're searching for a mission.
Instead of now defending Europe, they're starting wars.
On the bigger question, do you think the administration's goal and the policy of the United States should be regime change in Libya?
Absolutely not.
It's none of our business.
We ought to just stay out of it.
None of our business.
None of our business.
We don't need to be in there.
That's a commercial business going over there.
And that's why the British have commercial interests.
The British and the French have commercial interests.
And I'm sure we do, too.
We've been doing business with Gaddafi for the past five years.
And now the oil is over in the East.
That's where the rebels are.
And I understand that there's very likely some...
Some Al-Qaeda there.
So we're probably inadvertently getting involved in something that is going to have blowback and a consequence.
Already we have the consequences costing way too much money.
We don't have any money if we're getting involved there.
And it's not going to be in our self-interest.
This is detrimental.
Do you worry at all?
There you go.
I love Dr.
Ron Paul.
Is he going to be in the debate on Monday?
Yes, he is in the debate.
It's none of our business.
It's a commercial business.
The Chinese were there.
They were like weaseling in on our business.
So we went in there and took over.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, China man.
I think the point he really makes, which is important to note, is that NATO, when did NATO begin becoming an aggressive organization that starts wars?
Well, because they're the army of the United Nations.
He's right.
NATO is set up to defend Europe against an onslaught from somebody attacking it.
But instead...
Yeah.
We're starting it.
We're starting it.
We're creating a supposed no-fly zone.
I've never seen so many bombs drop down in a no-fly zone situation.
It's ridiculous.
We got boots on the ground.
I mean, sorry, consultants on the ground.
So I will wrap up.
So you're just basically annoyed by the fact that they exploited this little girl.
Well, not only that, but I can read.
And it's insulting to me when I read the report.
It's linked in the show notes at 312.nashownotes.com.
It's linked right there.
You can read through it yourself.
And you can go like, huh?
And everywhere it's like, alleged, asserted, unconfirmed.
And the Human Rights Committee...
They don't want to get caught with their pants down, so to speak.
They don't want to lie.
So they're just like putting in all kinds of fancy, not even fancy language.
It's language I, a high school graduate, can understand.
It's like, okay, so you have nothing.
You certainly don't have, I don't have any of the clips, but our president now is saying, ladies and gentlemen, we have to go in immediately.
We have to stop all of this.
We have to stop because the slaughter is killing everybody.
And we have no proof.
There's no proof.
Inconclusive evidence.
Now, before we go to our break, John, I just want to finish up the Arab Spring, if I may.
Are you okay with that?
Yeah.
Okay.
So, of course, I had my bets on Syria being next.
It could have gone either way.
We should have had a pool bet.
We should have had a pool bet because it could be Yemen or Syria.
And even though we're bombing Yemen, we're doing a good job.
Predator drones!
Hellfire!
Al-Qaeda!
Al-Qaeda!
Predator drones!
Another war that would just...
I don't know.
Al-Qaeda.
War.
Predator drones.
Syria seems to be on deck.
And the Secretary of State came out with...
That would be Hillary Lucifer, Lesbian Clinton, came out with a statement.
The President came out with a statement.
Syria, you've got to stop.
This has got to stop.
And of course, we want...
It's the same script as Libya.
The exact same script.
What do we have now?
Well, Shep over there at Fox News can tell us all about all the dangerous things that are taking place in which we have no actual eyewitness reports or video.
There is breaking news now on Fox News Channel and we're getting word that for the first time helicopter gunships from the Syrian government are now firing machine guns at crowds of anti-government protesters there.
We're told this is the first use of any air power as the Syrian government works to quash the rebellion in that country.
Of course, we do have people there.
But we don't have video.
Human Rights Group reports no one was killed by the assault.
Oh, no one was killed.
Hold on a second.
Let me get this straight.
You have a mob of people, God knows, a million, and you have a machine gun.
Five, five, five gunships.
And you fire on the crowd and nobody gets killed?
I can't, I missed!
How does that work?
Well, these guys are not the best shot.
No one was killed, and of course we don't have any video.
We have people on the ground, but no one on the phone.
If you take a machine gun, one machine gun, and fire it into a limitless crowd, whereas they drop in the front...
It's like fish in a barrel!
Fish in a barrel!
Fish in a barrel, you'd kill hundreds!
Alright, so where is all this misinformation coming from?
And then I'm getting off the air of spring.
We're going to talk about other things.
But this proves the point.
We have Jeremy Paxman, who I like a lot, actually.
He's one of the big anchors of BBC. And he does the night...
The night line, nightly news.
Night week or whatever.
Yeah, I mean, he's MKUltra, but I like the guy, you know.
And so, apparently, there was this gay female Syrian blogger, okay?
And she was openly gay.
Against all, I mean, for a woman, she's blogging, she's openly gay, and then all of a sudden, I don't know if you've followed this story, John.
Seems odd.
Then she was like, kidnapped!
No!
Kidnapped and taken and beaten!
Everyone's reporting on this!
So in the studio, they have two people.
They have the woman whose picture was used for this apparent gay female blogger who was just sitting in England going, what?
Hey, that's me.
I'm not gay.
I'm not blogging.
I'm not in Syria.
And then they have a London-based Syrian blogger, which is even better.
Like, they're so blatant now.
We're not even going to pay guys to sit in Syria and pretend.
We're just going to have them in London and have them pretend.
Listen to the conversation.
She's a little boring, but I just want to play it all.
I won't interrupt it.
And then listen to what he says, because it's a techno expert from beginning to end.
Same script, using Twitter and blogs and social media to make you believe that all these atrocities are taking place.
This is Amina Aboula's blog.
A gay girl in Damascus is a young woman's account of life in Syria.
The blog which brought Amina to international prominence contains details about her sexuality and open criticism of the Assad regime.
But this week it appeared the authorities had finally had enough.
After what seems to have been her arrest on Monday, a campaign was launched.
Photos of Amina were relayed around the world.
But they weren't photos of Amina.
They were, as might be wise in the police state, proxy shots.
Images she had been using all along to hide her real identity.
But they were pictures of someone.
And that someone is Jelena Lecic, a woman from London.
What has happened to Amina has also had profound implications for her as well.
And here with me is Jelena Lecic and the British-based Syrian blogger Mahmoud Hamad.
You are confident that this woman whose face appears on the blog of the Gay Girl in Damascus is you?
Yes, this is absolutely my...
By the way, it's her.
And by the way, if I was to cast an awesome, interesting, hot-looking gay lesbian blogger from Syria, bing!
She'd be the one.
My picture has been taken last year in Paris.
So you know where this picture came from?
Yes.
How does it then come to decorate a blog allegedly coming out of Damascus?
I don't know.
I absolutely don't know.
I saw my picture on a Guardian online story, and there was my picture published, and before I know it, it was everywhere.
Guardian was the main credible media, and I was very upset to see my picture, because obviously I'm not a media.
I mean, I looked it up today.
But you're not just in this country.
You're all over the world.
Yes, yeah.
What's that like?
It's been very upsetting.
Had this picture been posted by you or one of your friends?
Apparently, the picture's been taken from my Facebook account.
By the way, that's the way they spin the story.
It's like, beware, when you upload your pictures, it might be used in Syria.
Or by the State Department.
Amina Abdullah has got a blog and there's about thousands of followers and supporters obviously campaigning for Amina to be freed.
And apart from this picture, there's a couple of other pictures used.
I have no clue.
I've never met Tamina.
I'm not part of her blog.
I'm not friends with her.
Now here it comes.
It's absolutely astonishing that somebody's been using my pictures and obviously campaigning with my face on it.
Are you sure that this woman, gay girl in Damascus, actually exists?
Well, I couldn't tell you that for sure.
I don't know of anyone who has spoken to her in person, to be honest.
All our communications was through emails.
She's not!
She's at the State Department.
She's one of Hillary Clinton, Lucifer Clinton's techno experts.
Hey, Andy Carvin!
Andy Carvin!
Genius at NPR! How you doing with that retweet campaign, boy?
I just gotta pick on him.
So there you go.
That, to me, is conclusive evidence.
Well, I know how conclusive it is, but it's damn good evidence.
Well, to me, it's conclusive.
Well, it's conclusive to me, too.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm going to show my salute by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning.
That's right.
Take it from Paul and John.
Okay, so we got the new spreadsheet in with the unconcantinated comet, so I do have to go back to Erededarian or Black Knight and read the final.
Can you just read that for a second?
I have to then get it from the other computer.
I want to read along.
So you start.
Yeah, okay.
He just talked about how the tank of gas is about 220 bucks on the van.
And he says, if you find yourself in Orange County, California, please feel welcome to stop by.
My wife is Lebanese.
We should be able to get some ideas from her.
And is an awesome cook.
She's agreed to make you an authentic Lebanese dinner.
And I'm John.
It also has a standing invitation.
Keep up the good work.
I'm back.
Please play Trains Good, Planes Bad for his daughter, Grace.
She walks around the house singing it to herself all the time.
All aboard!
Trains Good, Planes Bad!
Woo-hoo!
There you go, Gracie.
So, uh, Justin Seitz, Seitz, Seitz, S-E-I-T-Z in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Last name is the long, I-silent East Sites.
Sites.
Well done.
Yeah, he got it eventually.
Sites.
Justin Seitz, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Beautiful place.
By the way, people always think of Pittsburgh as kind of an industrial, grimy place.
It's really actually quite pretty.
No, it is.
I used to go there all the time.
They've got a million bridges.
It's just the damnedest thing.
Anyway, $111.11 for a special karma, plus a $3.410 for the PI Club.
Would like a de-douching and karma for my search for a better paid job.
I'm sorry, that was me.
I douched myself.
So it's the Pi Club.
For 314, which is coming up as well.
Okay, double shot for you.
You've been de-douched.
You've got karma.
Not quite as good as the one, the last show.
No, I'm working on it.
Double nickels on the dime and mothership boarding pass payment will be on the way next.
Ryan Miller, photographer in Whittier, California, 12345.
I love the show.
Must donate!
Please plug my Facebook group, Status of Substance, dedicated to sharing and discussing the news hushed by the mainstream media.
Well, that sounds like a good group.
You better move that over to something else, because it'll be hushed off of Facebook.
Yeah, probably eventually.
It's true.
Beth Amon in Emeryville, California.
Hey, John and Adam.
I'd love to give a birthday shout-out to my fiancé, Joe, a long-time listener of the show.
He's turning 25 on June 12th.
And I wish him heaps of karma on his special day.
We're both looking forward to the Gittman Nation road trip and hope to see you soon in the Bay Area.
Yeah, he's on the list.
Whoever gets out of here.
Michael Bowling, or Bowling, in Watsonville, California, Bowling, I believe.
Bowling.
111-11, you were so close, but still got Dvorak'd.
My last name is pronounced like the game Bowling, which I did say.
Didn't I say Bowling, Bowling, Bowling, Bowling?
I said both ways.
You Dvorak'd him, boy.
Dvorak'd him.
You know, I prided myself with my ability to pronounce names.
Do you know how many emails I get from Dutch people that just email me regardless?
What does the Dutch people expect with those crazy names?
Here's how the Dutch people email me.
Hi Adam, hail the foot.
They love it.
They love it so much.
You're a hit.
You could be the next Prime Minister of the Netherlands.
No problem.
We'll make you king.
King Dvorak of Holland.
So I had to make a donation to hear it right.
Bowling.
Michael Bowling there.
I also have to do some karma.
I can donate to his girlfriend.
Laura is having trouble with her new job.
Keep up the good work and keep sifting through the BS. All right.
For your girlfriend, Laura.
Absolutely.
You've got karma.
I've got two karma stories, but I'll do that after the thing.
Peter J. Boyle in San Francisco, California, 1111.
In the morning, from the highest point in Gitmo Nation, Knob Hill.
Hey, I'm waving!
Please propagate the formula, even though I've been a boner, not a boner for a long time.
Friends, I've hit in the mouth to become producers before me, a.k.a.
Benjamin Nadias.
It's kind of hard to donate when you have a 30k in student loans.
There you go.
It's a theme.
It's a theme.
No, but here it is.
Here's someone who is, I don't think he has a job.
He has $30,000 in student loans and is supporting the show.
That, that is a true America.
I know the people in India in particular should take notes.
Yeah, hello.
Hello!
Hello, everybody!
Wind up, anyways, he's wind up working in retail after college for three years before getting a real job, and now that I make money, they garnish $700 a month.
I just moved to San Francisco from New York via a big technology company.
I'd like to thank John C. for getting me into the show, and Adam for keeping me listening.
Well, thank you very much.
John's the bait, and I'm the meal.
I'm the juicy steak.
Wait, let me give him a little extra karma for that one.
Yeah, thank you.
You've got karma.
Hi, we have a birthday.
You have to put it on the list.
It's not on the list, but he wants to wish his beautiful dame Caroline Hochberg a happy 24th.
Put it on the list.
Needs the de-douching and would like to call out my friend Paul Barbetta as a douchebag.
Okay, hold on.
Do douchebag first?
Douchebag!
Yes, for Paul.
And then he needs a de-douching.
And a double show or just de-douching?
Just a de-douching.
I'm trying to catch up.
Dame Caroline Hoxbergen?
Was that who's...
Hoxberg.
H-O-C-H-B-E-R-G. Hoxberg.
Okay.
Dame.
Dame Caroline Hoxberg.
Well, he's just his beautiful dame.
He doesn't have a capital D, so I don't think so.
Thomas Nussbaum.
Sir Thomas Nussbaum to you.
Virginia Beach, Virginia, 111-11.
He's the number six for Nicole and her birthday today.
We got that on there.
Please give a triple of...
Okay, can you do this?
You have a MILF, a Hot Pockets, and in the morning.
Wait, a MILF, a Hot Pockets, and in the morning.
I can certainly try.
It's not always easy.
That's one mother I'd like to.
Well, that was a one, two, three.
Anonymous in Kyoto.
Please keep it totally as anonymous.
No name, no location.
Well, we got the Kyoto.
What difference does it make?
Oh, it says Anonymous from Kyoto is okay.
Thanks.
Keep up the great stuff and blah, blah, blah.
Say hi to the shill.
Hey, shill.
$100 from Anonymous.
Daniel Scott in Dallas, Texas.
Double nickels on the dime.
Hi, John and Adam.
monthly contributor but need some extra karma for a new job i've applied for in south korea wish him luck one of the final candidates there for the job absolutely here you go you've got karma in south korea it has to be a lot of fun we'll get some information from him if he gets there sir greg stone rapid city south dakota double nickels on the dime he sent us an email steven anto in toledo ohio in the morning looking for a government uh working for the government americorps which is a temporary services ending soon in I'm eager to try to find a new employment.
My beautiful fiancee, Amanda Ramirez, also a listener, is on the job hunt as well.
And we could each use some karma.
I'll say now I don't intend to believe in American karma.
And he has some reason for that.
But I do believe in hyper-signals.
And I'm willing to dig deep in desperation.
Anyway, give him a karma.
Yeah, well, open up your heart, my friend.
And open your chakras.
You've got karma.
And he's requesting a Take Your Medicine jingle sometime during the show.
Well, I wouldn't do it now.
We might as well.
Get it.
And then we have a birthday call out.
Another one that's not listed because it came in the mail from Jeff Briggs in Cumming, Georgia.
He needs to wish his son Joe Briggs a happy birthday.
He's a recent graduate and I know he'll be a future knight.
Double nickels on the dime.
From an underworked real estate agent, also a first-time donor.
Yeah, I bet you are.
And then just three $50 donations from George Scanlon, Carpentersville, Sir Mike Westerfield, and Tristan Wilson-Kerrigan in Padbury, Western Australia.
We want to thank everybody and everyone else who donated even lesser amounts to the show because every bit helps.
And we really appreciate the support for this show today.
And there's just a couple people who I know want a little bit of help, who didn't quite make the 50.
Shana Williams, her 40th birthday is this coming Sunday, and she made a $40 donation, I guess, for her birthday, and she wanted a MILF-Karma combo shout-out.
MILF! That's one, mama.
I'd like to.
You've got karma.
I think she wants the birthday for next week, because that is the 19th.
Oh, well.
In the morning, heroes, hail the foot!
Says Lexi Horstenegger.
Rhymes with.
Been a long-time boner from Hofdorp, Gitmo Nation Lowlands, but finally became a donor by subscribing to the $11.11 a month plan.
I've been in search of a job since January this year.
Finally managed to get through the first two recruitment rounds with a potential new employer in Gitmo City Useless Glass Pyramid, which is Paris.
However, they are now in the process of deciding who to hire, and I do feel I will need some karma to become the chosen slave.
This coming Wednesday is D-Day, so if you could, please, I know I'm not at the right amount, karma me up on Sunday.
That'd be great.
If I end up getting the job, or any other job, I will pretty much instantly be able to free up more funds to support your awesome work, and I want one of those fancy night rings.
So we'll call this an investment karma.
You've got karma.
Sometimes you just gotta do that.
It does seem to work for some reason.
Well, whatever works the way I see it.
So we highly appreciate everyone supporting this show.
And we don't play commercials.
You probably noticed that, maybe.
We don't let ourselves be interrupted like our national treasure.
You know, and another thing, even when we do this break and we thank people for giving us specific amounts of money, it's incorporated in the show in an entertaining way that actually brings, you know, we have more information.
There's stuff in these notes and people tell us stuff that's kind of cool, so it's not just a big plug.
No, it's a learning experience.
We learn about children from other lands and we make up entire new languages.
Which is great.
Hail the foot!
Hello, everybody!
Hail the foot!
Wouldn't it be crazy if the president came out?
You should record that one.
Hello, everybody!
Hail the foot!
Live the American dream of just getting by.
Hail the foot!
You carried that pretty well.
I'm working on it.
I say in six months you'll nail it.
Mickey says if you just took one day.
I'm like, which day would that be?
That's true.
You know, if you actually sat down with a recorder and you had some of his speeches and you worked like a professional comic would do, you probably could get it.
That's why those guys are all on Zoloft.
I'm not going to do that.
Hey, so we appreciate that, of course, our executive producers.
We do have the Pie Club coming up, 314.
That'll be in two episodes from now.
The 333 Club is on its way.
This is a magical year.
If you take the age that you have become or will become this year and add that to the last two digits of the year you were born in, you probably might come up with something like 111 if you do.
We have several plans for you there.
You can find it all at...
And, of course, if you work towards your knighthood, we've got these fantastic rings.
It comes in a nice velour presentation box.
It's in a mirror script, so you hit someone in the mouth.
It leaves an imprint of In the Morning, No Agenda podcast.
We'll have pictures of it up pretty soon.
But we also give you some sealing wax to practice so you can see what the indentation will look like and a certification of your official knighthood.
And we have...
Oh, actually, you might as well draw your blade, John, if you can get it out there for a second.
There you go.
Norman McDonough, step forward, my friend!
Soon, the UPS man will be showing up at your doorstep!
I sound like a game show.
And he will bring you a trip to the Bahamas!
No, actually, it'll be the coveted night ring because you have now supported the No Agenda podcast show in excess of $1,000.
Therefore, we proudly pronounce the Sir Norman McDonough, Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable.
Your ring is on the way.
Have a seat at the round table.
Enjoy your hookers and blower, rent boys and chardonnay as you choose.
And I'm looking forward to many, many, many more nights.
It's going to be great.
Um...
Also, thanks to everyone who's been sending Miss Mickey emails.
We have about 80 invitations now across Gitmo Nation for the Hot Pockets 2008 tour.
And you can find it at hotpockets2008.com.
We've already posted our first route in KML. So there's all kinds of stuff we can do, and we can still use some design there.
Also, I forgot to mention, domains.nashownotes.com needs some design help.
So if you're any good at CSS, we could use some help there.
And of course, episode 312, once it's all posted, you can design the entire website, which is 312.nashownotes.com if you are any good at CSS. Which, John, I don't understand CSS. That's like mumbo-jumbo to me.
It's actually not that hard.
Well, then why don't you do a nice design?
Because I'm not a designer.
I'm mediocre.
I can use it, but to actually use it where it actually looks great, it takes somebody who does it all the time.
Can you just say you're mediocre again?
What?
Just say, I'm mediocre.
No.
You don't want me to use it for the opening, do you?
Dvorak.org slash NA is where you can go to show your support for the program or channel Dvorak.com slash NA or the fine-looking NoAgendaNation.com.
Dvorak.org slash NA. Actually, it turned out to be quite a list.
We've got Guava Tools saying happy birthday to his twins, Elliot and Elise Bonin.
And Davey Donin, they turn two on the 9th, so I guess they already turned two.
Beth Amon says happy birthday to her fiancé, Joe.
He turns 25 on the 12th.
That's tomorrow.
Thomas Nussbaum says Nicole's birthday today, so happy birthday from Thomas.
Also happy birthday to Joe Briggs.
And happy birthday to Caroline Huckberg.
From all of your buddies here at the No Agenda Show...
Yeah!
So, yeah, I want to thank everybody.
Now, I've got a new feature I want to introduce to the show.
Oh, I always love a new feature because that usually requires a jingle.
And what it is, is I've decided after listening to the Hummer, the new executive editor of the New York Times, I've taken out a subscription to the New York Times and I'm going to have to...
Wait, it's worked!
I'm going to have...
I want to watch it.
I want to watch.
And so the Sunday New York Times is different than the rest of the week, and this is one of the biggest publications in the world, and it goes out to...
A lot of people just subscribe to the Sunday New York Times.
Only the Sunday, yeah, sure.
I am going to deconstruct the front page of the Sunday New York Times, because all the messages that they're trying to get from the Ministry of Truth are on the Sunday New York Times.
From the whole week, right?
They sum it all up.
Well, actually, to me, it's a lot different, the Sunday New York Times front page.
And the messaging is much more blatant.
There's one, two, three, four, five, six stories, basically, all you have to deal with.
And a giant photo, which has nothing to do with anything.
But this photo is kind of interesting because besides being a blatant plug for Apple computing...
It's kind of a crock of shit pictures.
A guy leaning over...
Let me just read you the thing.
It says, volunteers have built a wireless internet around Jalalabad, Afghanistan, from off-the-shelf electronics and ordinary materials.
Right, like transistor radios.
So you've got to get, some people have got to get this just to cut this photo out.
It's a guy hunched over a MacBook, talking on a walkie-talkie, and a little kid standing next to him with a pair of high-end binoculars.
With a coat hanger.
Tell me there's a coat hanger.
No, he's got binoculars and he's looking out for the bad guys, I guess.
I have no idea.
Hello, Mohammed, can you receive my Wi-Fi?
Hello, Mohammed, can you receive my Wi-Fi?
So, uh...
Wait a minute.
Maybe that picture is on the website.
It's the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
And the big Apple logo is a payback because the New York Times are stooges for Apple.
Yeah, you think?
And so anyway, so that's the joke of it.
Then we have these...
You can kind of figure out why are these stories being run and this is the emphasis points that are going to come up in the upcoming election.
And I'll just read the headlines.
Oh, I see the picture!
Isn't that great?
It's fantastic!
Oh, hold on a second.
I'm getting an ad.
I didn't go away.
The kid is, like, on the lookout, and he's got his MacBook, and he's got, like, an Ikea plastic rack, and he's sitting on rubble.
He's in rubble outside.
And he's on a...
I see your Wi-Fi signal.
Ding-a-la-la-dog.
Hello.
Off-the-shelf ordinary electronics.
Yes.
Wow.
And it's a brand, it's like, so he's in rubble.
Brand new.
Not a scratch.
Not a scratch on it.
I'm loving the new, a lion is rocking.
OSX lion rocks.
Oh wow.
How convenient that they release OSX lion and he's running it.
Unbelievable.
Wow.
Anyway, so that picture, you have to put a link to the show notes because people just have to see this because it's hilarious.
That is very funny.
Anyway, Somali's Kill man behind bombings of U.S. embassies.
Al-Qaeda leader shot.
This is a story that we don't know.
Supposedly, I don't know how they knew who this guy was and how they killed him.
This is Obama's, the meme that Obama kills terrorists that George Bush couldn't kill.
This is just something that can be used in the future election.
Obama's tough on terrorists and he's killing them as opposed to Bush who couldn't kill any of them.
Right.
So that's a meme.
And then the other one, on the other side of the...
That's a top headline, by the way.
U.S. underwrites internet detour around censors and is about aiding dissidents abroad.
We're trying to – this is interesting because we're trying to censor our own internet here in the U.S. of A.
And we're bragging about how we're trying to uncensor everybody else's.
Afghan Taliban seed ground in the south but fears linger.
This is one of those pro-let's-stay-in-Afghanistan stories.
Weiner agrees to get treatment as calls for resignation to intensify more of the pressure to get rid of this guy.
I need treatment.
I'm telling you, there's something behind that.
And then we get the last two, which is too big to fail or too trifling for oversight, which is trying to push the agenda of more regulations.
And then the kicker, the one that I think, which is below the fold, but I think it's got the other photo.
A photo of a mean-looking German Shepherd being held by some blonde chick going after some guy, and in the background is a mansion, and the headline says, For the Executive with Everything, a $230,000 dog to protect it.
Which is sending the message that the rich are so, they need to be taxed to death.
Because they're a bunch of creeps.
And this picture with a woman holding the leash, you know, this dog is up in his back legs scowling at this guy holding something to be bitten.
And it's like, okay, the rich have gone too far.
They've spent $230,000 on a dog and then they bitch about being taxed extra and paying their fair share.
And that's what the message is in the New York Times this Sunday.
It's all clear to me.
We need a title for this little segment.
On the Sunday Times.
Humming the Times with John C. Dvorak.
The Sunday Times specifically.
The rest of the week, there's a real mixed bag of front pages I'm noticing.
And I'm looking at all of them.
And I figure, you know, this is the messaging system that's...
Of the elite.
Of the elite.
Of the elite nationally.
It's the only paper that shows up everywhere.
And it's got, you know, the messages are very clear.
I like it.
No.
I like it.
Even if we weren't doing this show, I'd probably call you up on Sundays and say, John, just tell me what's on the Sunday Times.
Come on, tell me.
But the picture of the kid with the binoculars and the guy with the MacBook is priceless.
That's a beauty.
It's a Pulitzer Prize written all over it.
By the way, John Markoff story.
John Markoff.
I think he's a shill.
Did Markoff do that story?
James Glanz, G-L-A-N-Z, and John Markoff.
Well, this is the U.S. Underwrites.
Okay, the Internet.
Yeah, well, it's not as though anyone's over there.
So who took this picture?
It wasn't Markoff.
Phil Schiller of Apple took the picture.
Hi, I'm Phil Schiller.
Here's your MacBook.
Set it up, Blake.
We'll show you how to set it up.
Let me just install Ryan.
He's actually on the walkie-talkie with Schiller saying, hey, this thing won't boot.
It's like, hey, I thought you said it would be in the App Store already.
I can't.
I was so underwhelmed by the WWDC keynote.
Did you see that?
No, you didn't watch it, did you?
I did.
I watched it and wrote a whole column on it.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
What'd you say?
I said that it was nothing revolutionary.
I think I had the theory that Jobs actually probably wanted to show off that new building that Alpa wants to build in Cupertino because that would have been a nice kicker to the keynote.
Right.
But then somebody advised him, I'm guessing, you can't do this until we talk to the city council because they're going to get They're going to get all irked about it.
It's assuming that you already got the permissions.
And so the next day, he went to the city council, and it's on the YouTube, and he talked to the city council about building this building, and I'm absolutely convinced that he wanted to do it at the keynote, but then somebody screwed up.
Because there was nothing at that keynote.
No, I was like, really?
Gestures.
I've got a gesture for you.
Here's my gesture.
Okay.
And poor Steve, man.
He's so out of breath.
You know, he can only do a couple things and he has to bring up Schiller and then Schiller has to bring up a guy who can actually demo the stuff.
Some drone.
You know, he's like...
No, but just the features, I was like, okay.
Yeah, it wasn't normal.
It's one of the first times that they've ever done a WWDC or any Mac event where the stock went down.
Oh, really?
See, I don't track that.
Now, did you write this for MarketWatch?
No, yeah.
No, wait.
I was reading MarketWatch, because I figure if JCD's writing for MarketWatch, it's worth reading.
I subscribe to the RSS feeds.
Robert Powell, you know him?
Yeah.
Was he any good?
Yeah, he's okay.
Okay.
So he wrote, headline, many of us won't be able to retire until our 80s.
There you go.
He nailed it.
Which is like five years away from him, for him apparently, just looking at his picture.
He needs to do a little work on the PR there.
But it's even worse for low-income workers, according to Jack Vander Hei, one of the co-authors of a study, The Impact of Deferring Retirement Age on Retirement Income Adequacy.
Uh...
Those who earn an average less than $11,700 a year, the lowest income quartile, would need to defer retirement until age 84.
What kind of retirement is that?
Here's a retirement watch.
Boom, I'm dead.
Wow!
I've got one year.
I've got enough money to live one year.
So let me see.
Where am I? Uh...
The American dream.
This is it.
This is your American dream.
Those who earn between $31,200 and $72,500 will need to work to age 72 to have a 50% chance of retiring, 65, and those who earn more than $72,500, that's the highest income cartile, catch a break.
They get to stop working at age 65 to have a 50-50% chance of funding their retirement.
That's your American dream.
By selling everything.
Right.
It's called the reverse mortgage.
Hey, I got another garage sale this weekend.
I can live another week.
We laugh, but we only laugh because...
We laugh as we cry.
We laugh at funerals, too.
So the World Bank and IMF were in the news in very interesting ways.
And this came out right after we published the last show on Thursday.
And it was an AP report, I believe.
Reuters are AP. That said...
Oh!
Exclusive!
We've got an exclusive for you, ladies and gentlemen.
Former First Lady and one-time political rival to President Barack Obama quickly became one of the most influential members of the cabinet.
She began to attend to the state in 2009.
Clinton talks about a possible move to World Bank!
Hillary Clinton wants the job, said one source who knows the secretary well.
A second source also said Clinton wants the position.
A third source, see, once you have three sources, then you can publish the article, said Obama had already expressed support for the change in her role.
It is unclear whether Obama has formally agreed to nominate her for the post, which would require approval by the 187 member countries of the World Bank.
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney denied the discussions.
It's totally wrong, he told Reuters.
A spokesman for Clinton...
Philippe Rines denied Clinton wanted the job, had conversation with the White House about it, or would accept it.
So what do you think is going on with this, John?
Why did this all of a sudden come out?
Of course, the World Bank being the yin to the yang for the IMF. Yeah, I was kind of baffled.
Very weird.
For one thing, she's got no experience in that field.
I think it was a job offer, and then she decided to refuse it.
Oh, you think she was fishing?
It could also be a fish.
It's one of the two.
She might have been fishing, but I think it was more of a...
Because the way she handled it was like, oh God, I didn't want that.
It's like, you know, we got an out for you.
You can quit.
You know, we know you want to quit to run against the president.
Yeah, because she actually said in her, when she was in France, in Champs-Élysées drinking café au lait, she said, I want to, after this, I want to live a life.
I want to have dinner.
She did.
I want to have dinner with friends.
No more sortes for me.
I want my matrial to be with me at all times.
And my lovely lesbian lover, Huma Abedin, at my side.
Once we put two heads in the bullet of that shyster of Anthony Weiner.
Okay, I'm making it all up.
But she did say she wanted to go on vacation forever.
And, of course, the World Bank is not where you want to be.
The IMF is where all the money is at.
See, this is the joke, is the International Monetary Fund actually has the money.
Yeah, but it's a Ponzi scheme kind of thing, because, I mean, you're just...
It's like we run the World Bank, but IMF has all the power, but we actually...
We are actually running the IMF in a sly way.
You know, we tell them what to do.
Well, then, of course, we get this report!
The IMF is quite a target.
An organisation based in Washington that holds sensitive economic details about many countries.
This attack's been described as a very major breach.
It claims a foreign government tried to install software inside the IMF and gain access to its files.
It's claimed the attack happened over several months, but the IMF says its operations were fully functional and there was no reason to believe that any personal information was sought for the purposes of fraud.
This is just the latest in a series of high-profile cyber security breaches in recent months.
In April, the Sony PlayStation Network was shut down after hackers stole personal information from around 100 million accounts.
Then in May, US defence company and Pentagon contractor Lockheed Martin said it had come under a significant cyber attack.
And now the IMF. This latest incident appears to be more cyber espionage than cyber war, but it is an area of real concern for the Obama administration.
It is extremely important for us to do everything we can to confront that threat.
We talk about nuclear, we talk about conventional warfare.
We don't spend enough time talking about the threat of cyber war.
So the whole thing is a set-up.
Oh, yeah.
We've been calling for this.
I don't have it circled, but on one of the shows about, I don't know, five or six shows ago, we talked about the hacker meme, and it's coming on strong, and every time I see these stories, I go, oh, here it comes, and what are you going to do now?
By the way, the attack, I think, came from just an email that said, you too can win, click here.
Yeah.
Take our Twitter survey.
They're trying to install software.
They took a Twitter survey and now we have a virus.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah, no personal details.
What do you do personal details?
My details aren't at the IMF. I don't have my credit card information at the IMF. What do they got?
Yeah, they got like...
A lot of hacker stories this week in the New York Times.
Yeah, by the way, you want to go to podcastlicense.com.
Thank you very much.
Everyone who bought a pod...
Well, you didn't buy one.
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Well, okay, carry on then.
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We also are working on internetlicense.org.
We have a few issues in setting that up.
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I already got my license.
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I got it from Dvorak and Curry.
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Do you hear the sound of the cuffs clinking on your wrists already?
Because that's what's going to happen.
But at least you tried.
You can say, well, then I was scammed.
I thought I was getting a license.
I can see it now.
Dvorak and Curry busted for scamming in the public with phony baloney licenses.
That's right.
And then we'll have really unflattering pictures of us.
Yeah.
Like the worst ever.
Right, right.
They were known for radicalizing hundreds on the interwebs.
Note the hundreds.
Radicalizing hundreds on the internets with their show, with their podcast, and their phony Ponzi scheme, they'll call it.
I can't understand.
And they put John Hancock's signature on the thing.
They falsified.
They falsified his signature.
They falsified.
Forgery.
Forgery.
That's right.
Forgery.
We're scammers.
And then Florida came out with something really interesting.
By the way, that whole clip that we just did right there will be used in court to get us off.
Oh, yeah.
It's when they do Discovery, that clip comes up.
I wonder if we can get any illegal help when we need it.
Do you think we have any lawyers?
I think we've got a lot of lawyers that listen to this show.
Yeah, we do have lawyers.
Do you think that that would help?
Yeah, they could, well, probably not.
Probably like, well, sorry guys.
I've got a family to feed.
I can't be dealing with that crap.
So, interesting ruling came down in Florida about what constitutes a journalist.
This is a question that...
Oh, yeah.
This is a new meme that's cropping up.
I'm convinced of it.
Oh, yeah.
You want to talk about it?
You want to hear the clip first?
Play the clip.
The Supreme Court of New Jersey makes a major ruling this week.
I'm sorry, New Jersey.
Florida, New Jersey.
I should know better.
Saying that a blogger is not a protected journalist.
The case involved a blogger from Washington State.
Chief Justice Stuart Rabner wrote, to ensure that the privilege does not apply to every self-appointed news person, the New Jersey legislature requires that other means of disseminating news be similar.
to traditional news sources to qualify for the law's coverage.
We do not find that online message boards are similar to the types of news entities listed in the statute.
I found that very interesting when I heard...
I have yet to read the actual ruling, but there is a difference between a blog and an online message board.
Yes, there is.
And it's possible.
But I'm not sure they know what an online message board is.
And a blog could be considered one if it was set up a certain way.
So was it a blog or was it just a message board and then somebody just writing commentary on the message board, which people do this with their four.
And that commentary was perceived as a news item or claimed as a news item when it wasn't.
So, I don't know.
I don't like any of this, by the way, because a blogger has the same rights as a newspaper guy.
How can you justify what you say there, Dr.
Dvorak?
By the Constitution.
I mean, essentially, the Bill of Rights gives us...
The what?
The what?
The Bill of Rights.
What?
The Constitution.
You've heard of it.
We don't know about...
We don't get taught that in schools.
The Constitution?
So people, you know, a journalist is what they produce a journal or they do a report or they do reporting and it's like that's all there is to it and it's guaranteed by the Constitution and for all practical purposes you can be a blogger doing it and what's the difference between the New York Times website and a blog?
Yeah, we talk the same way.
We can talk like that.
There's just more people working at one than the other.
What is this?
It has to be a limited number of people.
So a blog like, let's say, the Huffington Post, which is a blog more than anything, but it has a lot of people working there.
So that qualifies because you've got a lot of people working there as opposed to a one-man blog?
So I think we're safe because we have hundreds of producers.
We have them working at noagendanewsnetwork.com.
It says it right there, newsnetwork.com.
It is the same.
We do exactly what journalists on television do.
We can read prompter.
If we had to go into court, we could say, we can do this.
Watch.
Give me a prompter, and I'll show you how it's done.
I think we're safe.
You and I personally are safe.
We've got hundreds and hundreds of producers.
I also have other outlets, which makes it clear that I'm a journalist, even though I'm a writer.
You know what, John?
We have to talk to an expert.
So luckily in this news report, we have a real journalist who reads teleprompter.
And the real journalist is very concerned about all this, of course.
Judy, you've long raised questions about this whole issue.
I really have, and it's such a tough issue.
On one hand, I really want as many people covered who are legitimate journalists, who have the right to protect our sources.
On the other hand, I think the court, it was inevitable that this decision was going to come out as it was, because if you include bloggers and everybody who's using what the judge called a digital soapbox...
Hold on.
Let me adjust my digital soapbox.
Now, if they actually take...
Who is this?
This is Judy.
That's Judy Miller?
I think so.
That's funny.
She's got that same kind of whining voice.
I didn't notice it before.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, talking like, you know...
Digital soapbox.
Oh, she's borderline hummer.
Oh really?
So she's against it?
What is this?
This is bad.
It gets better.
Make a point.
Then none of us is ever going to be able to protect a source.
And that's what's at stake here.
So I really think we need a federal shield law.
And I think the Jersey decision highlights the need for such a law.
What's a federal shield law?
Well, that's a law.
There's certain states that have the shield law, which means that if you are, quote-unquote, a genuine journalist and you're protecting a source that contributed to a story and the police or the mob or the government – I'm sorry, it wouldn't be the mob.
The mob would just do it.
But the government wants to find out who the source was so they can bust them as a whistleblower because we hate whistleblowers apparently in this country.
Or find out who it is that's a leaker, because it might be somebody in the CIA or the Pentagon.
We have to find out who this is.
For the national security, we want you, Mr.
Journalist, to tell us who it is now.
And the journalist says, no, I'm not telling you.
I have a shield law protecting me from saying these things, from telling you.
And there's some states that do have these.
There's no federal shield law at this point.
Well, we're also clear on that point because even when our sources ask to be anonymous, we still have to give their names on the air.
Well, that's just because we're careless.
We're so clear.
By the way, when you send email to me, you can encrypt it.
It does not go to Google.
It comes into my house.
It's on OneDrive.
If I get the knock at the door, sledgehammer's going to that puppy.
And that's the only copy.
And you're safe.
It's encrypted with PGP. I'm sorry.
GNUGP. GPG. So we don't have the back door that's in PGP. So we do try to protect you, but sometimes we just give you up.
There's a little bit more to her speech.
The other fallout that you see coming from this, negative or positive?
Well, the problem is that she's got her own reasons, which I respect for her own experience trying to defend free speech.
But we're talking about a two-tier system now.
She's trying to defend free speech?
Really?
She's against it, from the sounds of it.
This guy's wrong.
Yeah, well, of course.
I like how he brings out, all he wanted to do was get the point, and he wanted to get this new term, a two-tiered system.
Yeah.
Because that's a meme that is going to be used in the future to create a two-tier system.
You watch.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
We're going to have that.
And you'll be right on top of that second tier.
Where certain people get to be dubbed capital J journalists by whatever standard some judge comes up with.
Everybody else, sorry, you lose.
In this new, more egalitarian world, everybody's kind of a journalist, and maybe that's a good thing.
All right, we have to take one more break.
Yeah, all right, shut up.
We've got to take a break.
We've just got to take a break right now.
We've got to take a break.
Let's just kill the conversation right now.
It could have been interesting.
Yeah, we've got to take a break.
Now, this is, you know, you can stop tweeting this because we're going to talk about it right now for just a second.
This did come out a couple weeks ago and it didn't make it on the show because, let's be honest, there's only so much show we can do before we're spent.
We're two old guys.
We're like, ugh, tired.
This is the new state law from Tennessee.
Which makes posting distressing images a crime.
Yeah.
This is hilarious.
This, of course, is the beginning of the harmonization with the Budapest Convention, where you cannot post any pictures that might offend anybody.
They also have another crazy law in Tennessee.
You can't share passwords amongst each other to websites.
Even if you have a Netflix password, you can't share that with anyone else.
Yeah.
So, what's up with Tennessee?
They're obviously the testing ground for these things.
They're going to just start running crap through Tennessee.
I don't know why.
It's weird.
It's weird.
But yeah, so if you post a...
What is the...
Do we have the actual text of the...
It was an amendment, actually.
Let me see.
I don't think we have the actual text.
Oh, here.
I do have a link.
Oh, it's Google Docs.
Anyway, Tennessee Code, Title 39, Chapter 17, Part 3 of its harassment law.
This is my English pronunciation.
The exact language of the law now reads, A, a person commits an offense who intentionally communicates with another person or transmits or displays an image in a manner in which there is a reasonable expectation that the image will be viewed by the victim, by telephone, in writing, or by electronic communication without legitimate purpose.
A, with malicious intent to frighten, intimidate, or cause emotional distress.
How does that work with some of these gags that are on the internet?
Like Goatsy.
Goatsy.
Well, Goatsy's not...
I'm not thinking of Goatsy.
I'm thinking of one where you watch the video.
Oh, you get like, bah!
You get that, like...
Yeah, exactly.
And that guy tries to scare you.
That's now illegal.
You can go to jail in Tennessee.
In a manner that the defendant knows or reasonably should know, would frighten, intimidate, or cause emotional distress to a similarly situated person of reasonable sensibilities.
And, as the result of the communication, the person is frightened, intimidated, or emotionally distressed.
So basically you can go, He scared me!
Lock him up!
So now what happens to people from out of state?
Are they going to have extradition for people that have a blog in Washington State?
Hey boy, you're coming down to Tennessee.
And they're going to bring them out?
Is Washington State going to extradite these people?
I mean, this is...
I wish this would get the court fast and get it over with and get this thing killed.
It's stupid.
It's unconstitutional.
It's ridiculous.
It's interesting you say, is Washington State going to extradite these people?
Who are you thinking about when you say that?
Are you thinking about people that you know in Washington State?
Yeah, they're all putting up weird stuff.
Are they posting up weird stuff that might frighten me?
And by the way, you can frighten me with just a story.
Well, actually, our show is...
Yeah, it's frightening.
It's actionable.
Our show...
No Agenda Podcast.
Now we legal in Tennessee.
We've got to have a...
The following program is illegal in the state of Tennessee.
Well, we could probably do a disclaimer at the beginning of the show.
I just did it.
I just did it.
Well, it has to be at the beginning of the show.
I'm going to edit that at the beginning of the show.
Okay, you should.
Do we need to have more?
Is that enough?
I think that the show...
Yeah, I think that's enough for now.
The following program may intimidate or frighten people in the state of Tennessee and therefore it's illegal and void where prohibited by law elsewhere.
That works kind of well, doesn't it?
I guess you should probably tell him to stop listening.
Stop listening.
Hey, Trump is doing something great.
He's funny.
I love Trump.
So, he posts a video.
And by the way, I like Trump even more now when I see his office.
It looks like my office.
And what I think your office might look like.
It's a mess.
He's got stacks of papers on the ground.
I love that.
Makes you wonder.
No, this is to me the kind of guy that gets stuff done.
He's got stacks of paper.
And he comes out and he says, he's saying the Republican Party is full of crap.
And I like this.
This is funny.
The Republican Party is full of crap.
What were they thinking?
It looks like they're intentionally trying to let Obama win.
And then he winds it up.
So basically his message is two-part.
One, I wasn't going to and get ridiculed by the Republican Party and not make a couple million by continuing with my show.
Because I guess he would have to stop doing the show if he would run for president.
And B... It ain't over yet.
I am watching very carefully.
If the wrong person is nominated, you watch what happens with Donald Trump and what he does.
Because we have to beat Obama.
This country cannot last any longer with Obama as our president.
Life in business is funny.
Every time I told NBC no, they kept saying, can we give you more?
Will you take more?
And by the way, even if you're rich, it's a lot of money.
When you have a hit show, it's a lot of money.
So I kept saying no, no, no.
But ultimately, I don't want to battle against the Republicans' stupidity.
Because it's stupidity, the things that they're doing.
And at the same time, tell NBC, I no longer want a hit show.
Who gives up a hit show?
Nobody.
So I had a decision to make, but there's plenty of time left for The Big Deal.
That's right.
That's a new show I think he has in the wings.
The Big Deal with Donald Trump.
That guy's wearing out as well.
Oh, he's awesome.
Keep going with the YouTube videos, Trump.
I like it.
So I was listening to O'Reilly and he had Trump on who gave a blast to Wiener.
Pun intended.
And it was like one of these just offhanded things that guys say.
There's like these code words, especially kind of upper class and middle class men.
Because we don't like to go into details on people.
You just say, you know, he's a good guy.
Or he's not a good guy.
And that's all you say.
What about this guy?
What's his name?
Fred over here.
He's a good guy.
All you say that means he's okay.
It reminds me of the mob.
They have this, he's a friend of mine, he's a friend of ours dichotomous thing.
The mob, this was brought up in the movie Donnie Brasco and it's been documented a lot.
If you've got a mob pal and he's introducing you to some of his mob buddies, if he says about you, he says he's a friend of mine.
That means don't mess with him.
No, it means don't trust him to say anything.
Oh, right.
If you say he's a friend of ours, that means he's already in on the action.
You can talk.
Okay.
Oh, that's good.
We need to remember that.
And so Trump gives Weiner a little side blast.
It just...
You can play it, and it's just pretty interesting.
Reality shows showing a campaign and a double dip.
Now, I want you to do a humanitarian service.
Are you ready to do one?
Yes.
Can you give Anthony Weiner a membership in the golf club?
I mean, the guy needs something.
Well, what he's done, and you have to understand, Bill, I've known him.
He's been asking for political contributions from me for years.
I've known this guy well for a long time.
He is not a good guy, and obviously he's got some serious psychological problems.
So that means no membership, huh?
I'd rather not have him in my clubs now.
Anthony Weiner unfortunately suicided himself this morning.
With two bullets to the head, a shotgun blasted the chest, then hung himself.
Hillary Clinton had no comment.
Well, anyway, so that wasn't...
You guys begging me for money.
That's not an endorsement.
It's not an endorsement, so he's out.
Yeah, that's sad.
Sad.
By the way, I did catch a...
Just one last clip from me.
I did catch a...
This is what the new journalists need to understand.
There's this thing that happens in the media where you...
If you're a writer and a writer attacks you, you...
I'm not advising people to do this, but it's common.
You lay in wait for an opportunity to screw with them somehow.
I mean, it's just a back and forth.
It's called a media grudge.
Right.
You get a grudge.
You wait.
And it's not...
And sometimes these grudges last a long time and then they come up out of the blue as a kind of your, you know, get back.
And the classic media, this is a classic example here.
This is O'Reilly.
Doing a payback on a media grudge and I just like rolled my eyes and said how long memory does this guy have?
Actor Roger Moore played James Bond in seven films and since then hasn't done very much.
He is however doing charity work on behalf of children for UNICEF. Children with disabilities are amongst the most vulnerable members of our society.
They are at a higher risk of abuse and neglect and of missing out on school and basic health care.
Now, we applaud anyone trying to help children in need, but a funny thing happened about 18 years ago.
I was trying to raise some money for a school in Harlem devoted to helping children of addicted parents.
We contacted Roger Moore's agent because he was working for UNICEF, who said the actor would be happy to help.
The school was thrilled.
One big problem.
Moore did not show up for the event.
Pinhead?
Yeah.
18 years!
18 year grudge!
Wow.
I loved it.
I said, wow, that's unbelievable.
So there's three pieces of homework for everybody to watch.
One is this Control-Alt-Bernanke.
So Anonymous, the group Anonymous, is claiming all these hacks on...
All these institutions, including Sony, although they kind of denied that, but I guess the IMF, and so there's a video you need to watch.
The other video is code 33 minutes is what it's called.
It's a documentary about missile defense.
It's put together by the Heritage Foundation.
It's very funny.
33 minutes is all it takes before you die when North Korea sends the long-range ballistic missile to up our butt.
But the most interesting one was an Al Jazeera.
And Al Jazeera has put together a 45-minute documentary about the Lockerbie bombing.
And there's this guy, Gary Johnson, I think, not Gary Johnson, that's the presidential candidate.
There's this guy who was hired by the Misradi defense team, and the corruption of evidence in that case is unbelievable!
Well, this is obviously what was going to happen in the case that was going to get him off.
That's why they had to extradite him.
We've talked about this on the show forever.
And so apparently, I think it's just in their craw that they never got to present this stuff.
And so they decided to do a documentary.
And it's pretty good.
And it's fun to watch.
It's about 45 minutes so you can get through it.
It's better than the Apple WWDC keynote.
Let me tell you that.
Yeah, exactly.
And I think that's about all I got for you, Johnny Boy.
Let me see.
Well, yeah, there was a WikiLeaks cable, which is just because I stay on top of this stuff.
The United States, the European Union, and the United Nations decided to support Haiti's recent presidential and parliamentary elections, despite believing that the country's electoral body, almost certainly in conjunction with President Preval, had emasculated the opposition politically.
By unwisely and unjustly excluding the country's largest party, according to a U.S. Embassy cable.
Yeah, really?
No, there's corruption going on there?
No kidding.
No kidding, yeah.
Stop the presses.
Yeah, and this one, this one did really gall me, though.
Medscape is, I think this is intended for doctors only, doctors and medical people, medscape.com.
Yeah, I think you even can join it.
You have to be an MD, I think, to get inside.
Right.
So one of our producers gave us access.
Oh no, well that's illegal in Tennessee.
He's going to jail.
And it's about vaccines and vaccination.
And here's, I'm just going to read you, of course I can't give you the login, but I'm just going to give you the first two little blurbs of this report.
Decade of vaccines will save lives and money globally.
It starts off, a large economic benefit is expected from accelerated vaccine development and delivery over the next 10 years in 72 countries, according to the findings of two new studies reported this week.
Between them, the two studies report that the deaths of 6.4 million children could be prevented in the next 10 years, while also saving more than $151 billion in treatment costs and lost productivity for an economic benefit of $231 billion. while also saving more than $151 billion in treatment costs Wow.
Yeah.
So, this pretty much...
What certifies what I read in all the reports is that the pharmaceutical industries are going all out on vaccines.
It's big, big, big, big money.
And, of course, they justify that by saying, well, we're going to save or create lives.
Save or create lives.
Yeah.
Well, that's what we say.
Yeah.
Save or create lives.
It works.
So...
Yay!
Have a great weekend, everybody.
Yeah.
Another uplifting thing.
Now our podcast is illegal in Tennessee.
That's right, because we scared your ass.
That's how it works.
We scare you.
It's illegal in Tennessee.
We're so sorry about that.
Hey, but please support our work, because John and I really do love doing it.
And I think we've earned our keep once again.
We watched hours of C-SPAN, so you don't have to.
We read...
90 plus pages of UN reports, so you don't have to.
And what else did we do?
I watched the presidential address, so you don't have to.
Oh, I watched people walk in.
Yeah, you watched the red carpet at the White House, so you don't have to.
Oh, boy.
It's not even a red carpet.
They make them walk on hard, you know, marble, and they clunk in.
Marble.
Marble.
Of course, so your Manalo Blahniks click nicely.
Just rattle your jewelry, Herr Angela.
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And from northern Silicon Valley where the sun's finally come out, it's crept through the fog.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
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I'm going to say this again.
I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms.